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cook your own damn food and wash your own fcking clothes I already do no woman wants a manchild who is strong enough to ''beat her to death'' That's most men ;) no wonder women opt out of marrying you I don't want to marry them, thank fuck, that's a bad deal
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 07:07 PM
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Evidence would convince me, not entitled women who have it easy repeating memes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 05:04 AM
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I think that despite the things they say, feminist women are still into a lot of the same things that tradcon/etc women are. Perhaps even more so because feminism teaches them to be entitled from the get-go.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 10:30 PM
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Don't have enough money to keep'em around. Nor do I want to spend it on them anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 09:38 PM
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Well I think you should consider it. Nothing would convince you your opinions are incorrect. They are based in pain, not logic. Pain doesn't come from nowhere, and logic can still cause pain ;) Further, no one argues on PPD to convince the people they are arguing with. You argue to examine your reasoning/convince onlookers. I'm sure "Go to therapy" is an extremely convincing argument that will certainly change people's minds
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 08:42 PM
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Not looking, I hope you eventually find good reasoning when you take part in arguments on the internet, someday you might actually convince someone of something. Enjoy the privilege and easy life that being a woman gifts you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 08:38 PM
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Don't comedies usually do a better job of showcasing a realistic average guy? (Or at least until the end they do)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 08:24 PM
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They are taught that men are responsible for everything bad that's happened to them, that they can do whatever they want to a man because as victims they can get back at men, that regret and rape are the same thing and you can #metoo whoever you want, that any crime they commit will get lesser sentences because they're not as dangerous as men, and that it's completely fine for them to divorce men. Among other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 08:18 PM
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Sooo this absolutely has to be because the women were exploiting the men? One of them wouldn't have been, but he was also the richest guy. The others, yup. Men statistically do this way more often than women. Rich men or men in general? Or maybe you just don't have to suffer from confirmation bias. The funny thing about saying "confirmation bias" is that I could just say the same thing back to you Yes, I wouldn't agree to anything else than this. I don't know anyone who doesn't either. Most coup…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 07:57 PM
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Have you heard feminism lately in the last few years? They say much worse things about men, and it's considered mentally healthy and correct regardless if I think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 07:51 PM
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You didn't even look at the pictures in that thread, did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 07:02 PM
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I don't. And I've never had any woman exploit me for anything. I don't know anyone who has either. You sound like you're saying you're an incel - you're making kind of bold statements for someone who has never even been with a woman. All of my aunts and uncles have been divorced. The 70 year old neighbour just had his wife leave him after he got sick. You've got to be fucking blind to not see these things. Access to what? How exactly do you think a relationship works? Please give me an example o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 07:00 PM
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Then you didn't even look at most of the pictures, which expecting the person who lived in an asian country, more or less depicted average women with imperfect waistlines.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:57 PM
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I don’t like the idea that you think that set up is impossible and have deluded yourself into believing you’ve never witnessed it. It's not impossible, just rare. You sound deeply unhappy and angry and I do hope you get some mental help. Life’s too short to feel the way you describe. Life and women I've experienced in it is what led me to feeling this way in the first place ;) There are things you can do to change it but that is 100% up to you. There's no point in going through the change if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:50 PM
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Exploiting you for what? How can you know this? For whatever it is she wants out of you (money probably, status etc). You can see it in their basic actions, in how and why divorces happen, how and why they dump men or which men they choose. What does this even mean? Are you seriously saying that if a woman has feelings for you, or wants your dick - you can't protect yourself if something goes wrong? You can, as long as you don't give her access to anything. Yeah women are more often helped than …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:37 PM
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Ad-hominem because you don't like the idea of men not giving everything for the sake of women only to get her shittiest behaviour in return, but can't otherwise refute it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:34 PM
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Defining masculinity as “emotional control/stoicism, physical strength/size, capability, leadership, and decisiveness” is “cunning and shallow as fuck”? How do you define masculinity? Alpha, high testosterone behaviour. What you're describing is mostly high beta behaviour. That guy is not getting back the equivalent of what he's putting in, and it's because women know they can safely target him because his "stoicism" means he won't be battered down by her bullshit as quickly. They give the worst…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:23 PM
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Do you honestly think your experience is universal? No, but I'm not a normie or even a mid-value man either. I do think if you're blue pill (as in "oblivious or naive to what's really happening" like in The Matrix) and not a Chad-type or attractive man, you're mostly being used like a sucker, though. Can you copy and paste what I have said that make your claims “obvious”? I said “emotional control/stoicism, physical strength/size, capability, leadership, and decisiveness.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:05 PM
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NONE of that means taking on everyone else’s work while they have fun. Leadership means holding people accountable. It means not having dead weight on your team. Most human beings are dead weight, find a leader who doesn't get driven crazy by his team and I'll show you a liar. If you mistake being everyone’s bitch for being capable of course no one will respect or admire you- no matter how hot you are. You teach people how to treat you. Masculine men stand up for themselves. Yup, and their women…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:58 PM
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No it’s not. In one scenario the woman gets with you with an evil plan to exploit you. In the second scenario your very being makes her wet. The latter will eventually get comfortable with you, especially because she's exploiting you. I’m neither of those useless categories. But I noticed you refused to answer the real argument here: you can increase your mate value and gain the privilege of rejecting women you don’t want. But you said you don’t want to do this - why? Those things would be for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:49 PM
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... I don’t think you grew up around masculine men. Being a capable leader results in people following you, assisting you and appreciating you while they do so. I absolutely did. The women were relentless in their demands for someone else to take responsibility and leadership. In real life, I am stoic as fuck and was always responsible. You know where I ended up? Having more and more responsibility foisted on me while everyone else had fun. That guy only gets admiration if he's already Chad-like…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:45 PM
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You may want to look again
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:41 PM
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And what the get is the tingles. The feeling of attraction , admiration, obsession. You’re making the mistake of thinking this stuff is rational - it’s emotional. It actually doesn't matter which it is, the end-game is still the same. I’ve never had to give anything to a woman. Like, ever. You are a grown man. You can do what you like - if they expect stuff like that, you can simply dump them. You must be Chad or Chadlike, then. That kind of makes your advice useless, because you've never otherw…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:39 PM
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I really have 0 sads for men who complain about being forced to spend time with women rather than getting immediate sex and then having her silently skitter away in gratitude for getting banged. LOL. That's being a nice guy, women don't like those That said, I don’t think masculinity as I have described it (emotional control/stoicism, physical strength/size, capability, leadership, and decisiveness) leads to the dynamic you are describing. Women may cheat on men who predominantly (or solely) off…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:36 PM
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That's not the point, it does drive up their "average"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:29 PM
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Would you really want to put your tongue up in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:21 PM
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From an evolutionary point of view it’s transactional yes - just like your lust for a woman’s capability to give birth is. In practice, gaining status does something to your neurochemistry which alters your behavior. This alteration in behavior simply turns women on - which is why women often talk about confidence. Competence and status also cause them to admire you. That's cute, but it's more or less about what they can take from him. Someone who acts like they have plenty = "Oh, I wonder what …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:21 PM
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In some ways. I max out at beta bucks, so a woman would definitely cheat on me for "hot and useless" or be one of those "I've had my fun, now pick up the sloppy pieces for me" types.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:18 PM
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For longer than a single night
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:14 PM
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So I guess you tried it then? Yup. I have no interest in being a normie. For the grapes are sour, and not as ripe as I thought. Put it this way: if the difference between a woman liking you or not is the new size of your wallet or your status change, that's what she cares about the most. That's what she will take from you if you let her, and that's what she'll leave you over if you end up losing those things or someone with "more" comes along. No one is going to come galloping to a man's rescue …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:08 PM
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I mostly agree with that. I think Manson is a bit more sensible - he basically promotes not pretending to be anyone else than you are, being honest about your weaknesses and just throwing yourself out there and seeing how people react to who you actually are. Then in time, this shapes who you want to become as a person. This only works if you're already tuned to whatever the normie or popular culture or whatever is around you. If you're unattractive or not cool, they don't want you anyways. Pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:55 PM
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Women have makeup which makes them artificially more attractive than they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:47 PM
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I've followed these obnoxious life and dating gurus before. They're all trying to be nu-age versions of Tony Robbins or someone like that, just spouting stereotypes and memes and telling people what they want to hear to make them feel better about their choices so they'll send money to them. Pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:46 PM
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It doesn't matter if it's not universal: if it's true, you lose. Therefore, don't do anything that will make you lose when you could've avoided it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:39 PM
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He's a pretentious douchebag. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:39 PM
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It took a damn long time to trick it away, then. So you're saying I should start practicing TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:34 PM
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Vaginas are mostly disgusting and who knows how many Chads have been up in there already etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:33 PM
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I have eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:22 PM
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He’s hot but useless. So perfect to let pork the old roast beef for a night.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:08 PM
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Feminism is only about being anti-male, anything shitty that women do is completely fine and encouraged because they're women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:07 PM
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Would like to receive, wouldn't like to give. If the only way to get is a 1:1 trade, I'd rather go without.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:05 PM
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Sure, but I'm also not wishing I was them. I don't know a single couple where I go "I want what they have." And that's just from what I can see, nevermind all the bullshit that goes on behind the scenes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:58 PM
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I haven't been applying them. I hate that they work and I won't respect any woman that they work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:54 PM
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Academia is like the one place in the world where you'll be nerd-shamed for working out instead of doing smart-people things.
/r/MGTOW14/03/18 03:53 PM
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BP success stories will not come to slap you in the face when you're viewing the world through a red lens. I view "BP success stories" as more of a time bomb. "He thinks she loves him, but she really just loves his wallet, I sincerely hope he can maintain it or she'll leave him."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:52 PM
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Isn't that all of them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:38 AM
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And the women who enjoy spending time with men who struggle? That's pretty cruel, but I guess not unexpected.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:03 AM
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Sorry that I wasted your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:37 AM
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It does not sound crazy, I am familiar with small to mid size towns. You said you don't have friends because they take away from you, now you say you don't have friends because they moved away and you had no involvement....... That part about "that I care to keep up with" involves people who took away. The people who moved away subtracted time that I can't get back. Instead of wasting it with them, I could've been doing something else instead. There are also friends I have online that would qual…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:33 AM
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All of your friends moved away..... I live in a place without a university or much in the way of career opportunities unless you're willing to work in camp. As crazy as it may sound, every single friend that I grew up with (that I care to keep up with, the one I don't was into drugs and we generally end up hating each other if we're around each other for too long) has moved away. I have seen friends visit, and I would visit my friends. If you're in a nursing home, chances are most of your friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:17 AM
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I got that when you said "Yup". Forget the anger part of it, do you think that it is possible that some of those lost relationships you had on your way to not wanting friends were your fault? Nope, they moved away. Where will you be, on the street when you lose mobility? Nursing home people treat bitter old people that way as well. I'll be dead before I get old. Also I've seen what nursing homes look like, at best most families might show up once a week, your friends are certainly not showing up…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:02 AM
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What the hell do you guys even call a normie anymore? Usually it's anything but Chad and Stacy and not incel Wait, who's "you guys." I'm not alt-right. "Normie" is fucking normie, as in people who live up to normal-people stereotypes, basic as fuck, only care about normal-people things etc. If they're younger, they look like everyone else or are up on whatever the latest fashion or hipster subculture is, if they're older, they look like they've given up on anything edgy or interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:48 AM
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Have you never messed up a relationship, or all the messed up relationships in your life were because of other people? My anger is never uncontrollable. If you've made me angry, it's likely on purpose or because you just don't think about your actions. My response will be equal to whatever you've done and it will be justified. That is how people will treat you, if you continue the cycle. Nah, no one will get close enough to be able to. I would say that is bad interacting with people then. You ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:46 AM
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Nope, but they're the ones who are the most likely to hop on the bandwagon without knowing shit about what they're getting into just because everyone else is. Though I do know some ex-nerds who I would now consider normie. Their nerd-cred ended years ago and they turned more Hank Hill than anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:34 AM
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Do you feel like everything you ever did when angry was justified? Yup Nope, as a man now I understand some of my fathers pain, and the mistakes he made. He gave me a sincere apology and I accepted. All I can hope is that I am awarded the same forgiveness one day. I would've told him to go fuck himself, and that he deserved it especially in his old age. So when you meet people, do you just act like you don't feel this opposed to letting them get close to you? Or do you give them this sort of ani…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:31 AM
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That's all in your head. All normies collected comic books. Very few didn't They most certainly did not. Nor did they watch Japanese cartoons (thankfully, they still haven't ruined that)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:20 AM
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Have you ever been angry? Is your entire life defined by those moments? When I'm angry, I say what I'm thinking and do what I think the other person absolutely deserves. Maybe to show what you are capable of, but in context of your parents saying they would send you away, I think if they did not send you away that is not how they felt in general. Nah, they just didn't want to look bad to the outside world. My dad is relatively sick now. He is so humbled that if I did not forgive I was just being…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:18 AM
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Yeah but I but I wasn't a white prider from 1000 years ago, but I am a nerd and a weeb who doesn't appreciate these slobbering normies getting up in our business like they wouldn't think of it as a social stigma to like it 10-15 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:13 AM
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I hope anime movies never become popular, I don't need normies slobberingly spouting memes for 50 year old characters just because they saw one normie-friendly movie
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:02 AM
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This kind of strayed from forgiving your parents, to domestic abuse. The thread is anger. Anger is when you see what a person is really like, what they're really capable of, and what they're really thinking. The comparison is to illustrate that "oh, they didn't mean it" sounds nice in one situation, but in general it's really not. If you feel what they did is unforgivable fair enough. I was not there. All I know is that I forgave and am better for it. I don't forgive or forget. That allows peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:52 AM
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I disagree. Anger is a highly emotional state and you are all hopped up on chemicals. You can say something you don't really mean. Sure they do, they just don't want anyone to know they're thinking it or that they're thinking of it as a solution to their problems. A man gets angry and beats his wife, was he just in a "highly emotional state" and he "didn't mean it" or does he just want to use his fists to solve problems and when he gets angry is when he finally does it? Spankings were acceptable…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:38 AM
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Apparently if a pro athlete is going to go through a divorce, it's on average going to happen about a year after he retires from the sport.
/r/MGTOW14/03/18 03:27 AM
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Blue Pill: Like in the Matrix, it's someone oblivious to what's "really happening" and just goes with what mainstream society tells them. At this point in time, the Blue Pill is extremely feminist, anti-male and tells men one thing but then goes for another. Red Pill: What actually works. You hate hearing it because a lot of it is based on shallow things (beta bucks/women settling) and shitty things (dark triad etc) but it produces results and tells you what's really happening to suckers and fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:25 AM
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Was it in a fit of rage at something you did? Sometimes you gotta give people a pass for angry things said. I'm sure you've done it too. Sometimes it was "angry parent" but not every time. And no, you don't give people a pass when they're angry, that's when you see who they really are and what they're really made of. So you said you were unattractive and on top of that there was trouble in the home. Did they abuse you? Hrmmmmm, it probably would be considered so now, but it was spankings and if …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:14 AM
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Acquire $$$$$$$$$$ Bitches love that more than anything
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:08 AM
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Because that kind of thing was normal to them. Dad grew up with four siblings and only one of them were full-blooded siblings (five kids, four fathers), Mom's older brother was sent away when they couldn't deal with him. That type of thing was ongoing? I don't remember specifically, but regular enough. But really, all it takes is once.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:03 AM
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They did threaten to send me away to an Aunt's/Uncle's or put me up for adoption when I was a little kid and didn't know any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:57 AM
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So move away from America.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:43 AM
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I think what's sadder is that I held out hope longer than I should've that "this time might be different." The worst was thinking feminists would be any different. Turns out they're the worst of them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:39 AM
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Jordan Peterson's an academic, literally a gust of wind could beat the shit out of him. His tough talk isn't backed up by anything.
/r/MGTOW14/03/18 02:32 AM
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Nah, there's always other things to do rather than wasting time on people
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:31 AM
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Yup, and it's better than being a sucker getting stuff drained out of him just so people will "respect" him
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:28 AM
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I will leave you with this. If you feel you don't have anything good to give, you won't attract people with anything good to give. That never happened. If I have anything good to give, they just want to take it for themselves. They're not getting it. Especially women. They can go get it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:06 AM
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It's always good to have other people in your life, even for the sake of our own mortality. If you don't have $ and no one who cares for you, the world will abandon you in your times of need. Especially as you get older. Not trying to preach to you, but real talk... Yup. That's what I've been getting at the whole time. They will abandon you, unless they can take something from you, and if they can't take something from you, they won't bother with you in the first place. And actually people aband…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 01:11 AM
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The view from the bottom told me differently. You either have to have money or know how to charm'em, otherwise they don't give a shit about you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:26 AM
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Yes, playing competition with men teaches you how to convince women to have sex with you. Makes perfect sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:20 AM
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Sure did. What else do you got?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:18 AM
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So I guess no, you don't have many friends. I know the feeling of having people use you, or giving people something without getting anything in return. Not right now, but I don't need them for anything either. But you are wrong if you think no one can be a friend without solely taking and not giving anything back. Just because something's rare doesn't make it the rule How? " Respect is not a verb. It is admiration. For example, if they respect you for your job title, but then you get laid off or…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 11:52 PM
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If anything, I was sad that the options are either being a TRP scumbag or being beta bucks, but that's women for ya I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 11:46 PM
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It's not okay for women to cheat and it's not okay for a guy to cheat. I do believe the TRP perspective is the opposite coin of the feminist one though. Just like feminism is anti-male and pro-female, TRP is pro-male and anti-female. Both sides let "their" side get away with things that they want to restrict the other "side" from getting away with, or they don't care if bad or negative things happen to the other side, as long as they get what they're looking for out of the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 11:40 PM
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Part of it is also because women were expected to retire from their jobs after they married to become SAHW/M's eventually. Men would marry because men were expected to work brutal hours so they needed someone could take care of their home and finances and children. So you sort of have this issue where women want lives and careers too but men either don't need women with lives and careers, or don't think they have "enough" to offer a women to entice her to stay home , so they end up not bothering…
/r/MGTOW13/03/18 11:07 PM
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Japan is how it ends. Herbivore males and women not being able to find men who want to marry them no matter what they do.
/r/MGTOW13/03/18 10:23 PM
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I'm not sure what you think I did not recognize, but you are coming off as having little friends. I had a lot of friends, guess what, they come and go and regardless if you respect them or even help them or not, they won't help you back. There was no point in having them. I am not going to fight you to try to prove to you anything. It may also be a cultural thing where in your culture everyone is so independent that no one looks out for each other. But what you are talking about is not a univers…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 10:20 PM
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Fair enough. My life experience is different. The people who respect you are there for you, the people who don't abandon you. Maybe you are talking about outward "respect" kind of like people who smile in your face,but talk trash behind your back. But it sounds like we will have to agree to disagree. Maybe you just didn't recognize what was happening, or are okay with other people using you as long as you get to think you get "respect." "Normies" because they are followers and attracted to confi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 09:13 PM
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Someone is not your close friend if they abandon you when you need them. I have had people be there for me, and I guarantee respect is key. Someone who does not respect you is who abandons you, like someone who just liked you for your money. Nah, I've had people who liked me abandon me and I've seen people who had a lot of respect and friends have people abandon them left and right when they needed them. Respect has nothing to do with it, just incentive to help. Hitler was a Normie? Jesus was a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:42 PM
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If something bad happens to you, respect is the main quality that will make them come running to your rescue....If they only kept you around for money, then when something bad happens is when they will abandon you. Respect will not make people come to your aid. There are even closer friends who will not come to your aid if something happens. The "abandon you" thing is quite common regardless if you have respect or not. How so, we can switch the word normal with productive, or positive and to mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:15 PM
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It does not sound happy to me. If something bad happens to me, respect isn't going to make people come galloping to my rescue. If my job title does, that's all they care about, and I have no interest in tying up my identity in a job that can be taken from me at any time. But as long as you are normal in society, that is all that really matters. That's the worst insult you can say to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:55 PM
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Yep. Earning people's respect is a waste of time if you don't respect them in the first place ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:48 PM
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I don't know how to answer that question, I don't care whether anyone else does respect me or not so I also don't really notice if they do or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:30 PM
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No, I understand that. I don't want to be wanted for that. If the difference between a woman liking me or not is my job title, I don't want her, because that's the thing she's most interested in. If she wants a job title and the earning capacity with it, she can go get it herself, I'm not going to give it to her because that stuff is mine, for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:22 PM
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I'm not convinced that it is so they can use your money. I just think women want a guy who is better than them. That's their own problem then, because feminism means they can go make their own way now. Moral of the story, ignore what women tell each other and say they want, because most of us don't even really know what we want. Generally speaking women still want a guy who is better than them who they can lean on. I have no interest in being either of those things. It's too much work for too li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:12 PM
1

I hear you. I don't think there are many women who go into a relationship thinking they want to milk you for your money. If you do look at how they generally operate, they only get with guys who make as much or more money than them. Money is a big motivator. I think women are attracted to men who do cool things and make a lot of money for many reasons including being able to take care of a family, and giving her a dream life. Feminism means she can go make her own dream life. It just hurts my so…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:00 PM
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I mean, they get given basic survival, but as women like to remind everyone, just existing doesn't make you attractive nor does it make everyone hand everything to you the same way that youth does for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:53 PM
1

Yep. Though if you make a lot of money as a guy, you can just stay at the top of the mountain and never decline too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:41 PM
1

It's more that I suffered more from rejection and being disappointed by shitty options, and how you basically get the worst of a person the closer you get to them. A lot of people seem to think it's "you're alone and you're sad or you're with someone and you're happy", for me it's more "I maybe sometimes sad that I'm alone, but it's better than being sad and connected to someone else who doesn't like me for me and just wants my wallet or a ring and then once they comfortable, they turn into shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:40 PM
0

I meant it more that the "wall" is where things stop being good for women, we start at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:38 PM
2

I mean, if it is, it's because we've learned that we're not going to get any without doing any of those things. We're not the choosers or the gatekeepers, women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:37 PM
1

Also, I don't think the women would lie on an anonymous poll for absolutely no reason. That's a waste of time. Lying to yourself is a thing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:36 PM
1

My 4 or 5 would probably be a regular person's 2 or 3, and a rich or attractive person's 1 or 0 (as in "maybe I should kill myself" time).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:36 PM
1

Women are on average a full “happiness point” higher than men Either because it's easier to be a woman overall, or there's always more of a need to impress others among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:34 PM
2

Pussy-whipped guy. At least the dick-whipped woman actually got something out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:33 PM
0

The "wall" actually starts when we're born. We have to prove that we deserve anything, it's not automatically handed to us unless by our parents (via wealth or genetics). Some of us never prove anything, it seems the men that do start proving something in their 30s or 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:32 PM
1

Yup, a spare wallet that she's entitled to. Do you have any qualities that you think other people would like? Nope, not many.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:31 PM
1

and also understand that who you are can invoke attraction in women who are not chasing after that type of guy. Nah, not really. Many women are not looking for beta bux, but a confident man to be on their team. And when they can't find them, they will settle for beta bucks. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:17 PM
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I would say a very potent and superior alternative to these ideas is the idea of (vulnerability and polarization)[https://markmanson.net/vulnerability] by Mark Manson. It's basically being comfortable in your own skin expressing yourself honestly with the risk of rejection (without hiding behind coping techniques such as "Amused Mastery"). You will become, and be seen as - confident, consistent and trustworthy. Much like "be yourself", that only works if you're already considered attractive. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 02:33 AM
2

... Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 01:36 AM
1

Uh, within the context of this thread, it's entirely about being selfish in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 11:45 PM
3

Spoiler alert: Someone doesn't die with you and then you hold hands as you fly off in the afterlife together. Everyone dies alone ;)
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 11:41 PM
2

You can't call them selfish in bed because no one is having sex with them, so you don't truly know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 11:40 PM
6

Those men aren't getting fucked, though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 11:32 PM
2

and I don't feel like I really know them until I've seen them truly angry. Then I don't trust them ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 11:17 PM
2

Male, early 30s, single, purple but lean more towards red than not. Probably vary between a 4 and 5 on average. I'm happiest when it's rainy and dark out (fucking hate sunny weather because then all the normies are out), when no one is around, and when I'm doing something that takes me out of being me (video games or a good show or something). I get deeply unhappy when I have to be around other human beings for more than a few hours. I don't feel camaraderie with them, I don't feel connected to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 10:49 PM
5

I don't particularly need my testosterone for anything
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 05:57 PM
5

Porn is wonderful. It's good enough, it keeps me from becoming beta bucks, it's an outlet for creativity, and unlike real women, I can guarantee it will be there for me when I need it to be.
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 05:45 PM
1

Did you know that there is sex-positive and sex-negative feminism, and that there are various types of feminism. No, because when you're not a feminist, you all blend together, and shrieking about sex positivity is louder than sex-negativity (never even heard of it).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 05:12 PM
1

Q4All: How malleable is personality? After a certain point it isn't. You can only hold back on what you're feeling or what's going on inside you for so long. Q4All: How much of your own personality do you believe is a result of external factors? It's how your genetics prime you to react to things that happen to you while your brain is still developing, and how much help and assistance you have from others when those things come up. Q4All: Does personality change throughout life due to external f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 05:08 PM
1

???
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 03:54 PM
1

Don't fuck crazy don't fuck without enthusiastic consent Those are the same things ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 03:48 PM
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Aziz: "That's not rough sex enough." Ghomeshi: "That's way past rough sex." Point 1) It was rough sex enough for all of them. Point 2) What's in the middle of all of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 03:33 PM
1

And yet they still attempted to #metoo him (before #metoo was a thing).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 03:29 PM
1

Also gives them #metoo ammo for when they regret it the next night I believe I already said that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 03:22 PM
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Guess what? It turned her on, she wanted it There was a court case and he was acquitted because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 03:18 PM
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It was rough enough for her to #metoo him https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2014/10/26/cbc_fires_jian_ghomeshi_over_sex_allegations.html
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 03:08 PM
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https://tribune.com.pk/story/1608809/4-comedian-aziz-ansari-accused-sexual-assault/ Hurrrrrrrrrrr
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 02:40 PM
2

In some cases, it's because men want to have sex with them and one way to do that is to tell her what she wants to hear. In other cases, it's a belief that women are weaker or inferior in some way so that they shouldn't be punished as harshly. In yet other cases, feminism has brainwashed everyone into thinking women are always good people and they should not have any negative consequences for their actions One benefit to growing up male at least is that if you have a problem with another guy, pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 05:06 AM
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Women don't date below their league. Men don't have any problems doing so. The average girl is going to get more inquiries, more action, more suitors, more everything, because she's seen as "not-as-difficult" as a hot girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 04:28 AM
3

Tell that to feminists and the mainstream, who insist that "girls are good" and that everything is a man's fault ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 02:58 AM
2

Average girls have more options than hot girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 02:26 AM
-1

Just wait until reddit decides MGTOW is anti-woman and that poor women need to be protected from having their own bullshit exposed ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 02:17 AM
1

By how thick his wallet is or how long his prison rap-sheet is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 02:08 AM
4

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 02:08 AM
6

They'll use it on exes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 12:21 AM
7

Also gives them #metoo ammo for when they regret it the next night
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 12:18 AM
0

Sluts gonna slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 11:37 PM
1

Marriage rates aren’t actually dropping, people are getting married later. The studies on dropping marriage rates usually focus on a specific age group and so people outside of that age group are not included. Plus, as marriage rates in that age group decrease, cohabitation rates are increasing. So, men are still committing just like ever. We all just put off actual marriage until later. Cohabitation just means roommates, more people are having to live together because cost of living makes it ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 11:30 PM
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The number of men that are going their own way is such a small one, that we all know it won’t make a difference. All you can do is bitch and whine and ironically, remind women why they reject you anyway. Most men are still just as thirsty as fuck, so if we miss out on the miserable few, then it’s actually pretty good. Nobody wants to deal with that mess. Marriage rates and birth rates are dropping. It's very clearly being borne out in societal results that men are not committing to giving women …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 11:02 PM
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Yeah. If you're gonna be stuck as beta bucks, protect your bucks at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 07:41 PM
2

I'm not sure I'd call that dread game as much as just a form of prostitution. Though it is highly intelligent. We don't live in a world where women can't work anymore, there's zero reason to give a woman full access to your money with no guarantees that she won't try to take it from you. If she wants a lifestyle provided for her, she plays by the rules and gets her allowance, if she wants her own luxuries, she can go out and make her own money to pay for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 07:20 PM
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Oh I agree, but they'll use him because he's hot and then discard him when they start wanting "more" (which means "money").
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 04:51 PM
1

Try googling "what does being yourself mean". I speak the English language. "Be yourself" means "being yourself" not "being what other people want you to be." Is being gay a skill, or a sexual orientation? Gay men have faked being straight and have produced children for decades beforehand to the benefit of society. Centuries, even. They've also done so by being someone else and by not being themselves. Show me one instance of someone other than you defining it that way. You speak English, that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 03:59 PM
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Being ugly and/or poor. Women will let you get away with basically anything if you're attractive and/or rich, including being an introvert or whatever else people might say in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 03:46 PM
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This is your definition. I've never seen anyone define it like that. I don't think you'll find anyone else who thinks that beings yourself around others means not changing anything about yourself for the sake of others. So you've quizzed everyone you know about the definition of "be yourself", or you just superimpose your own By this logic, mothers aren't being themselves when they do things for their children. They're not. There's that meme about moms who have children early in their lives fina…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 03:42 PM
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Again, being yourself is about how you act around others and whether you're honest with the person you are around them. Going to the gym to look better is pretty normal. An example of someone not being honest with this would be someone clearly trying to lose weight and instead saying "I do it because I like it", because they're afraid of admitting that they don't like the fact that they're overweight. Doing it for the sake of other people is not being yourself, doing it for yourself because you …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 03:14 PM
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How, exactly? Being yourself means that you don't pretend to be someone else around others. It doesn't mean "Don't change anything about any situation in your life". This plays into the point I was making. If you're into going to the gym or whatever already, that's an example of how being yourself works if you're already doing something that's attractive. If you don't care at all about the gym, then "being yourself" doesn't help in that situation, and someone who goes to the gym specifically to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 02:45 PM
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Most guys don't have a lot of money - yet most guys have children and a sexual life. Beta bucks. Most women are not going to pull a rich guy, so they settle for as much money as they can get. If you have no attractive attributes you should work on getting attractive attributes obviously. Then that's not "being yourself." This is a very convenient thing to believe, it relieves you of any responsibility to improve yourself. It disproves "be yourself." Improving yourself for things you don't otherw…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 02:14 PM
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No, not money - competence. Being really good at something. Women want to admire their men. This can be anything from fixing cars to playing in a band or being a successful programmer. They will eventually lose admiration for a man who doesn't make money. The starving artist as an example. They'll only remain attractive as long as they see money at the end of it. "Be yourself" means that you realize where your value and competence comes from. If you're a scrawny computer nerd, you accept that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 02:00 PM
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Your attractiveness is based on what you contribute to society, and your genetic fitness and health. Not whether you fit some definition of behavior there and then. Money and physical attractiveness. "Just be yourself" as long as you have these things. A narrow definition. If you have too much of one and not enough of the other, you will be used for the one you have too much of, but she's not going to treat you the same way as someone who has both.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 01:44 PM
2

Pay attention to what they do, not what they say
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 01:31 PM
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She won't love you, she'll just love things about you, like your wallet. If those things go away, she won't feel love for you anymore because the thing she loved is gone. Women objectify men worse than men have ever objectified women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 01:30 PM
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No, because it makes them look bad. They'll say anything to not look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 01:24 PM
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No, we're only invisible when you're young and slutty. The one day and you wake up and look for beta bucks and he's too smart to deal with your bullshit now. Ejecting from the dating pool is saving them from losing. And posts like this, which you're whining about because it hurts your good vibe (oh noooooo, a woman is feeling bad about something, must be a man's fault!), do remind women like you about it and you don't like it. You're welcome honey, you deserve it ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 01:23 PM
2

Assuming you're an actual woman, this might be the first time a woman's ever thanked me for something that in the end makes the lives of women harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 12:18 AM
1

Nah, I still like opening those feelings up temporarily if a TV show or something is doing it really good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 10:14 PM
1

I can control my desire for sex and kill feelings so that they can't be taken advantage of, so #1 is good for me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 10:07 PM
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Yep. That makes pretty much anyone on here an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 09:19 PM
2

Yep, but they do it on twitter or facebook, not on small subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 08:21 PM
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Normal people don't waste their time on small subreddits arguing about things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 07:58 PM
1

It's too bad they can't do both at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 07:55 PM
1

These aren't fat losers like Comic Con might get. That explains why the THOTs were flirting with them, and why they didn't care, because they can find THOTs easy. This would be more of a story if it actually was those fat losers
/r/MGTOW10/03/18 06:51 PM
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Feminism is the barrier to actually fixing problems, because feminism makes women the victim in every situation. You can't start fixing behaviour if a large chunk of the problem is artificially off-limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 06:18 PM
1

Convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 06:13 PM
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Little boys and girls are taught not to throw tantrums just becuase they are angry or to cry and tattle when things don’t go their way. That’s not even gender specific. And if anything, mothers coddle and tolerate their sons misbehavior way too much, which is why we have a generation of adolescent men who can’t fuction as adults which we’re all dealing with right now. No, it's because more and more we recognize the shit deal that women are still trying to foist on us even though feminism is hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 05:10 PM
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You're disingenuously focusing on one thing because all the others prove a point that you don't like. Women teach men from an early age how to regulate their emotions. And they mostly teach men to bury them, because women don't want emotional men, they want men who will robotically produce so it can make their own lives easier and absolve them of their own personal responsibilities. If a man has an emotional outburst, he's a bad man for not being able to control himself. If a woman has an emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 04:43 PM
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Nah, early peer-to-peer with other males is basically punching them in the face if you get in your shit. The person who teaches you emotional regulation is usually your mom or your teachers (most elementary school teachers are women). It's behaviour taught by women to raise men who will bury their emotions to go do the things that women don't want to do and foist on them responsibilities so women don't have to do it for themselves. Perfect example: A dude who's a labourer, works hard 10 hours a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 04:39 PM
2

Yep. But denying stupid people birth control means stupid people will have babies because they don't think about the consequences of their actions. Or maybe there'd just be an explosion in popularity of throat-fucking and anal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 04:31 PM
2

Women raised those men to hold in their emotions in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 04:27 PM
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If that was true, feminism wouldn't be so hell-bent on repressing male-everything and women wouldn't be teaching men that emotions are bad things for men to express. It's a shit deal that only benefits women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 04:19 PM
2

It's easy, available, and in many cases, "good enough", especially if the alternative was "accidentally having babies that you can't abort."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 04:17 PM
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If he wants a girl who isn't gonna lose attractiveness to him for showing weakness, he'll have to be for the most part. I'm more of an advocate for not bothering, because men are getting a shit deal out of it. Deny the pussy-pass, their lives are easy enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 04:12 PM
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Ups and downs don't mean that it's not completely within your ability to regulate and control how those emotions come out. Again, it's a straight-up fucking excuse to foist the work onto someone else so you don't have any responsibility for your own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 04:09 PM
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Yes they do, every woman does, hence TRP. There’s hormonal issues to consider that are beyond our control. That's a straight-up fucking excuse. It is completely within your control, you just choose to believe you can't control it because it absolves you of responsibility for your attitude and your actions. Pregnancy & menopause are two times when women will almost definitely be emotionally unstable. I don’t like the idea of getting in a bunch of bitchy little fights when I’m 8 months pregnant be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 04:03 PM
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Edit: Maybe getting rid of contraceptives and abortion will solve this little “problem” that we have. Nope, we have internet porn now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 04:00 PM
2

Stable girls don't require a man to be a rock.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 03:52 PM
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She's only doing it to maintain him the say way someone maintains a car. If he approaches her with his actual problem, she loses attractiveness to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 03:47 PM
3

You don't have the same implied responsibilities to friends as you do someone you are dating or have as an s/o.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 03:44 PM
1

Or maybe it was because added something to those men's lives and in modern times, they just subtract. Why chase something that's not valuable?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 03:43 PM
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That's still basically babysitting. The responsibility for handling someone else's emotions falls to the man, because she cannot be trusted to do it herself. And trying to make it out to be a "man's" job is just trying to guilt him into being a sucker by using implying he's not a "real" man if he doesn't do it. Be your own rock, deny the pussy-pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 03:13 PM
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She needs to know your her rock. Not her yours Fuck that, that just sets it up so that she can be as emotionally unhinged as she wants and all the responsibility of reining someone in falls to the person who's the "rock."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 03:06 PM
3

Being an attractive one is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 02:36 PM
5

Only if you want to end up in the friendzone or have her lose attractiveness for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 02:33 PM
16

Red Pill isn't trying to be genuine, because genuine doesn't work unless you're naturally an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 02:19 PM
3

Then you're not really attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 02:13 PM
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But not attracted to them and instead attracted to assholes while wanting those assholes to act like nice people. If there's no benefit to turning it off, you don't turn it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 02:11 PM
2

It doesn't sound like it would be beneficial to turn it off because you hate nice people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 02:06 PM
0

This is mixed answer for me. I am sex-positive in that weird fetishes or interests are fine to have, that kinks should be safely explored, that sexual education is important, and that prostitution should be legal and regulated as long as it can guarantee the safety of more sex workers. However, I am not sex-positive in that I an totally judgmental about your past. Past behaviour predicts future behaviour, so someone with a slutty background should not be considered for a low-key and quiet LTR be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 01:03 PM
1

Yeah, I'd rather be alone than be beta bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 12:51 PM
1

Sure it does, people will go out of their way to protect a high value male or pass off his behaviour when a low-value male wouldn't get the same leeway
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 12:49 PM
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Not necessarily the new "attractive", but it would be a novel way to try to stand out from the crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 01:21 AM
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No one is invalidating your experiences. But we also don’t care, and so we’re not going to give you a trophy for having those experiences. No one wants to listen to your bitch fest about women. You don't speak for everyone, unfortunately, and you're entitled belief that you are automatically valuable just because you're a woman is evidence that what I say is not without merit. Women know what they bring and the men that are worth it, know it too. Nah, men tell women what they want to hear becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 01:18 AM
2

Sure there is. If there weren't, men wouldn't be treated as replaceable and would be protected the same way women are by society as a whole
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 01:07 AM
2

It's easier to ask the to-the-point things I want to know online because the worst things that happen are arguments that you can step away from anytime or you get banned or something. IRL, I'm a low-value male, so if I ask for things, the answer's usually "no", and because I'm a low-value male, I don't get the same leeway that a high-value male would, so I can't ask risky things and expect to get away with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 12:43 AM
1

I do, however it also means I'm not getting any action either way because I'm not attractive to women in an animal way and I don't want them cashing in on whatever minor resources I have for no return.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 12:21 AM
2

Sorry to rain on your happiness parade, rain is the life, but people who have had shitty and negative experiences with the opposite sex have valid opinions too, including what modern women do and (mostly) don't bring to relationships. And as my mother is a woman too, my experiences with her and what her relationship looks like with my father, are also valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 12:07 AM
2

Ask culture online, guess culture offline.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 11:40 PM
3

100% red. As I'm not physically attractive, at best I would end up as beta bucks, a personal nightmare scenario. So I'd rather be 100% red.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 11:34 PM
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No, but I would prefer they not spew bullshit just to make themselves out to seem like they're better than they actually are
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 11:29 PM
2

Beta bucks is still about hoping something will randomly choose them when they're finished having their fun with alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 10:50 PM
2

BP as a feminine trait advocates just waiting around until it just "happens." Which is a very feminine thing because women always have people approaching them or offering them something, so of course it will just randomly happen for them some day. RP and failure is about continuing to try regardless of your statistical failures because it's not going to happen for you otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 10:42 PM
1

Who said anything about roaming the country? You might get a bad rap with one group, but that's handful of people. If you live in a big city, that's a drop in the bucket. Even if you live in a small city, that's a drop in the bucket. Or you could just try and improve yourself. Not for the sake of other people, especially if those other people wouldn't give you the time of day otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 10:35 PM
2

Women aren't a hive-mind, so unless you live in a very small community, only a few people will ever hear about your bad sex. Just go find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 10:29 PM
4

Attractiveness would become generic and ugly would become a new style.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 10:10 PM
1

It only looks sad to those who know the truth, and if you don't tell them the truth, they're none the wiser. Also "high quality partners" are really only intere$ted in one quality in a partner, the re$t of it doe$n't matter all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 10:01 PM
2

Chad is Jon Hamm in that one episode of 30 Rock
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 09:11 PM
1

Very few people wildly succeed without failure and you're not guaranteed success just because you use fancy Yoda quotes about word selection
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 09:08 PM
1

Gets the job done, and quicker than whatever that "maximize yourself" bullshit means.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 09:05 PM
1

Requiring little effort doesn't mean that the actor doesn't have to act. Blue pill is feminine because women are offered things and decide if they choose it or not. Only high-value men are offered things, and even then it usually it takes a shit-ton of work and effort to demonstrate that you're a high value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:59 PM
1

Only if you admit the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:52 PM
1

No, you don't get it. If you get a bad rap with three people in a city of 3 million, that affects nothing, because those three people are not talking to the other 2,999,997 million people. Even getting a bad rap with 30 people in city of 30 thousand arguably affects nothing. Not only that, the bad rap of "bad at sex" is still better than "he's a virgin." You lose out on nothing and gain something (she wouldn't have had sex with you otherwise, now you're not a virgin, you gained something)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:31 PM
1

I don't understand what you're even asking
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:29 PM
3

And that is a relatively small number of people. You're right in that it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter what she says to her friends unless you live in a small community and don't plan on leaving at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:26 PM
6

"Be yourself" means exactly that, being yourself. Being the person you want to be, doing the things you want to do, liking the things you actually like and not having to put up any fake fronts just to impress other people. What they mean by "be yourself" is "just fit into the narrow conditions for male attractiveness as determined by popular culture and everything will work out for you." That only works if you already fit those standards, otherwise you're being someone else and not your true sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:25 PM
0

(Sorry, can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:17 PM
2

Red is the masculine, meaning you actually have to try Blue is the feminine, meaning you're reacting to things being given to you. You don't have to try all that hard, so of course you're more concerned about how you act
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:05 PM
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Women don't want my genuine self, so if I want to have sex, I have to pretend to be someone else. "Be yourself" only works if you're Chad aka your genuine self is already considered a valuable and attractive human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:03 PM
2

The advice part is still the same, which is "look your best and maximize yourself". Just lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:03 PM
1

tbh, I'm not sure "mainstream" dating advice even exists anymore because the internet has diluted everything. All we have left is the pre-internet yesteryear advice of Generation X as our "dating advice tropes."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:01 PM
3

And that circle is relatively small compared to the size of populations of most large towns, and the populations of cities. It also presupposes that you'll spend your entire life in one place. And all she'll have to say is that you were bad at sex, which is still better than being a virgin. There is no downside.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 06:47 PM
3

Which only matters if you live in buttfuck, nowhere and the population is so low that women are actually a hivemind there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 06:41 PM
3

It really won't. Poor quality sex happens all the time among everyday, average people. Women aren't owed anything in a sexual hookup beyond "don't do anything that breaks the law," and bad sex and virginity is not against the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 06:33 PM
1

Ladylike means act like a waifu and not a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 04:40 PM
1

Janitors actually have one of the highest work-satisfication rates because they can see the result of their labour every day. One of the janitors at our high school was such an enjoyable person that he was voted by our high school graduating class to give a speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 12:15 PM
5

Nope. Confidence working hard does not translate to confidence with women. You are confident at the thing you work hard at because you know you can do it, but only a dumbfuck thinks working hard at one things mean they're good at another thing. I go hard at anything I do, and women find that unattractive because they want soft subtle bullshit instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 12:14 PM
3

Skinnyfat computer nerd here. That's bullshit. I do multiple cords of firewood every summer, including splitting fucking gigantic rounds with a splitting wedge and hammer, after doing jack shit most of the year. It's your back and your abs that take a beating, and those get into shape within a few days of doing some light chopping. It also depends on the quality of firewood. Your grandmother could've split the batch I had last year because it was dry and not knotty, the year before it was a nigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 12:10 PM
2

Ugh, goddammit jammerly is finally right on something. Anytime i would be out cutting firewood, mowing grass, or fixing cars it did seem like whoever my current gf was wild just sit there and watch me like a creep. Yeah, it's because she doesn't have to do it. Fucking every woman that walks by when I'm splitting wood checks me out even though I'm not attractive in the least, and I know why, it's because they're thinking "if he was mine, I wouldn't have to do that" and meanwhile, I'm thinking "Fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 12:09 PM
1

If a woman I was an s/o with talked to me the same way my mom talked to my dad, I probably would've snapped and beaten her to death by now. This is also a woman who makes every meal, handles all the bills and shopping, makes his lunch, and unlike her other siblings, hasn't been involved in a divorce. It showed me that if you're a man, you can't win. And it's gotten worse because women's attitudes have gotten shitter and more entitled than my mother's generation. And as I'm a man, I'm replaceable…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 12:05 PM
1

Hard work is only attractive if she sees money at the end of it. Leeches are attracted to things they can suck blood out of too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 11:46 AM
2

Why, women started it with their own toxic attitudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:00 AM
2

Even more reason to lie about things if you're a low value male
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 07:58 AM
4

If I a woman would otherwise fuck you but the only reason she won't is because you're a virgin, that's artificially limiting your ability to lose it, because bad sex is a thing that happens to people too. There's no reason not to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 07:00 PM
15

To lose your virginity if you're a virgin, because women don't want to have sex with virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 06:43 PM
1

Sensual / romantic pro-porn is where it's that. This is your Disney-TV-fantasy-dream-guy-grade sexual performance that most women won't say no to. I'm at work, so I'm not going to find you a link (can do later). I'm not interested, don't worry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 06:10 PM
1

Now if you're a beta, make sure you're not around to clean up the messes that alphas leave, because those messes will just go crawling back when they feel clean enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 06:08 PM
11

The hangup will no longer exist. If the woman hated sex with you, you can always find another one. You don't owe women good sex, especially if they won't fuck you if they find out you're a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 06:06 PM
1

You should probably already know if someone's masculine or not before you get into a relationship with them. I don't respect most masculine men (most of the guys I know who think they're masculine are prissy bitches and most of the guys I know who are actually masculine are proud dumbfucks), so if a woman asked me to be more masculine, I'd probably just tell her to leave so I can do something I actually want to do instead of pretend to be something I don't care about for someone I newly don't ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 06:05 PM
3

Porn is like professional wrestling. A lot of it is for the camera and not "real", but some of it is real or based on real, and there's always amateur.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 06:00 PM
13

None of that matters. The objective of a virgin is to not be a virgin anymore. Lube and then the dick goes in, you're not a virgin anymore. Congratulations, you may not have gotten to this point if you told her the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 05:58 PM
2

It's more like a poor man shouldn't go to a rich man for day-to-day financial advice, because a rich man doesn't have to worry about his day-to-day expenditures. It's the same with women. Even a woman with a shitty dating life has it easier than most men. Most of them have choice, even if it's choices they don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 05:41 PM
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We all have the internet, everyone knows what sex looks like. Being good at it isn't important or even required, because there are people who are bad at sex who aren't virgins. Once you stick it in, you're not a virgin anymore. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 05:39 PM
2

A butterface means everything is good "but her face."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 05:37 PM
11

Lie. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 05:33 PM
3

Whenever I bring up something about feminism that an individual feminist disagrees with, she'll say "those are just the crackpots." They don't realize that the crackpots have a seat at the table too because "push women forward" means different things to different people. "Push women forward ahead of men" "Push women forward to equal men" "Push women forward in this one field or career" are all different things with many different meaning of what "forward" means and whether they're pushing someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 05:28 PM
-1

Men don't appreciate what women give them Nagging, headaches, demands and the blame?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 05:25 PM
1

Modern feminism has no defined goal other than "push women forward." The different sects of Christianity all look the same to people who aren't religious, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 05:16 PM
1

Feminists don't actually know what feminism is; ask 10 women and you'll get 10 distinctly different answers, while simultaneously arguing non-feminists don't get it. That's because modern feminism doesn't have a defined goal other than "Push women forward" and doesn't have defined mouthpieces because the internet has destroyed the need for true leaders. The conglomeration of the mass blob of feminist opinions is feminism, and feminists don't realize that people who aren't feminists don't disting…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 05:14 PM
2

Toxic Masculinity is enforced and encouraged by women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:03 AM
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Unless you were an incel yourself, I wouldn't bother. It's like a white American trying to give a black American advice about dealing with racism or a rich man trying to give a poor man financial advice. It's easy to talk when you're in a position of plenty and didn't experience it firsthand, and depending on how successful you were when you first started, you might even be completely missing steps that an incel will have to take to develop because you never had to take those steps in the first …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 03:49 AM
1

Women don't want beta nerds, they want a chad with glasses
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 03:40 AM
2

They tend to have a romantic streak, unless the world beats it out of them. I used to have one of these. Never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 03:38 AM
0

It demonstrates that if she is sufficiently attracted to him enough or sufficiently fucked in the head enough, he can say anything to her and she'll let him get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 02:06 AM
1

I'm jelly of those male students. No one's ever wanted to touch me no matter what, and since I get mental issues either way, I'd rather have those mental issues
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 08:54 PM
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And the women don't care if the men don't like it, because women are the choosers anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 11:36 PM
6

But in that case, a mother is considered innocent until proven guilty and a father is considered guilty until proven innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 11:31 PM
7

Better than sad and beta bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 11:29 PM
14

Yep, exactly. Criminals or people who have that mindset don't care about you, they're not going to take responsibility for your self-defense because you being defenseless is what they want. Protect yourself, like us dudes learn that you have to on account of being bullied or pushed around or whatever as kids and finding no one galloping to our aid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 09:23 PM
7

Surely they have enough willpower to not fall for seduction or to see through it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 09:00 PM
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Kind of like how guys get annoyed when women talk about feeling "scared" and "unsafe" all the time. Actually, I find it more annoying when they discount ways to keep themselves safe as "victim blaming." They feel unsafe but leave the responsibility of keeping themselves safe to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 08:59 PM
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I imagine most men would not enjoy being a fly on the wall listening to a large group of women talking about men either, Women freely do this whether men are around or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 08:58 PM
4

Being smart puts people outside of the norm, and being outside of the norm shows them that being inside of it doesn't really matter because the things the norm accepts are arbitrary. This leaves them more free to do the things they want to do without the pressure of having to fit into the life script that normal people adhere to, because pleasing normal people is completely arbitrary and ultimately meaningless. Also normal people are normal, they're less likely to think outside the box because b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 12:47 AM
2

It's a bad deal for men. You're buying used goods at full price.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 07:57 PM
1

It's exactly what I was saying in the previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 07:14 PM
2

They try to identify other men as the problem. Men are taught these behaviours because it's the behaviours women want. Other men are only trying to be tough and strong because women are attracted to the tough and strong and repulsed by the weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 07:00 AM
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Your not wrong. Honestly men are probably more boring and uptight then women. Women don't wanna go to some lame ass restaurant and watch a dude shove food down his throat. No, it's that women expect men to entertain them, whereas women are just expected to be something to look at and then have some warm wet holes open later.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 05:57 AM
1

Dating, no. The other person isn't owed anything in dating. Relationship, maybe. It depends how far off he is from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 05:55 AM
1

"When men exhibit anything other than masculinity, often the first reaction from other men is to shun him, to ostracise him, to insult his “manhood” - the be-all and end-all of male existence. ... As long as boys are taught that gentleness is weak, and shows of force are virtuous (or fun), we're doomed as a gender. And the fact that whole organisations exist solely to perpetuate these myths makes young men all the more vulnerable." You can always just punch a dude in the face who's giving you sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 05:32 AM
2

When thinking "manliness", James Franco does not come to mind
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 04:47 PM
2

I think the equivalent would actually be laughing at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 04:10 AM
1

Yeah, I'm not arguing against OP, but reinforcing the point. Women aren't a hivemind, so No doesn't always mean No.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 04:16 PM
2

Women raised men. You tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 02:44 PM
1

Women aren't a hivemind
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 02:44 PM
6

It's like asking why people like watching horror movies and surmising that they must secretly be murderers
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 01:17 AM
3

metoo and "she was asking for it" fly in the face of that narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 03:28 PM
1

God damn, Grandma
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 05:52 AM
3

Regret is not rape. And since we're not psychic, withdrawal of consent has to be obvious, not just "I was making body language signs at him."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 04:00 AM
1

Nah, most people don't think about most things most of the time, but they do react certain ways upon hearing about things for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 01:43 PM
7

Nah, being polite is a basic expectation. You can file it under "nice."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 01:37 PM
3

Probably my worst nightmare
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 11:29 AM
3

That's because being beta gives you the short end of the stick and no one wants that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 10:57 AM
1

Repulsion is basically the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 10:47 AM
0

Sure they do, because they want it to be natural
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 07:03 AM
0

Yeah, they do. That's part of why there's so much outcry against things like red-pill or pic-up artistry before it: it was giving them something they wanted, but it was learned instead of being natural
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 06:54 AM
1

Women don't "hate men who look up dating sites or ask advice" that's insane. Women may prefer men who do get it naturally, that is not the same as hate. They do hate it when men do that stuff, and they hate finding out it wasn't natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 06:51 AM
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It's a reaction to weakness. Women hate stuff that allows weak men to pretend like they're strong and "trick them." That's why they hate men who look up dating sites or ask advice. It says something if women stay with abusive men longer but then try to shout down advice that could be construed as "abusive."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 06:42 AM
12

Probs remember that one the next time a feminist cries about someone saying something mean to her
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 06:39 AM
0

No duh?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 02:11 AM
1

Essentially they just don't want you using it because it works and it makes men they don't deem attractive into attractive men, and they hate that. If it didn't work, they'd keep telling you to use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 01:57 AM
1

That's what I was saying, but I was told I was wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 12:12 AM
1

Yup. Which is why I don't believe these people saying that young women don't go to clubs and the bar as much as they can. Which also means if they can't, then something else is substituting for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 11:59 PM
1

Surely there would've been boring women around (I don't care for the extroverted exciting ones), but it turns out most of them are either much younger than me (apparently, I still don't believe this thing where they don't go to the bar or the club) or only go the club "once in awhile"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 11:38 PM
1

They may not want to be harassed, but they're certainly not shy about sharing themselves on insta
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 10:45 AM
1

And yet apparently young women don't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 10:45 AM
1

But that's what overconfidence is, being unbelievable. Women are less likely to see that he's being unbelievable from the start. Men are more likely to catch onto that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 04:54 AM
1

They'll only react negatively to if it's demonstrated he can't handle whatever it is he's highly confident about. They don't respond badly to the overconfidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 04:44 AM
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Nah, I think men see through it easier because we're men, we know what each other is thinking. Similar to how girls are easier at picking up other girls bullshit than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 04:42 AM
0

I think women are worse at recognizing when a guy is being overconfident because confidence is attractive to them. If anything, an overconfident guy will draw them in because they'll be wondering what he's so confident about
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 04:16 AM
1

over-confidence is generally an unattractive trait in either sex. Women love over-confidence. They hate when over-confidence cracks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 04:03 AM
1

I’m not a fan of potter Stewart tbh ???
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 03:58 AM
1

I don't think trashy is all that subjective. You know trashy when you see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 03:54 AM
1

Now I'm not sure what you're saying. Like you can still be trashy and have family values.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 03:52 AM
1

Actions. You don't maintain classiness by acting trashy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 03:49 AM
1

The thread is about how TRP only works on "low-class women" including girls who smoke, drink, go clubbing/bar-hopping. I contend that most girls go to clubs or bar-hop (or I guess post their bodies all over instagram or hit up tinder these days because apparently less people do that then before but the amount of hos is increasing if anything), which means that most girls are really low-class/trashy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 03:46 AM
1

It does. "Only trashy girls go to bars and clubs." "It's hard to find girls who don't or have never been to bars and clubs."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 03:42 AM
1

I think it's rare that young girls don't or have never gone clubbing I did say that further up the conversation tree to someone else. Even if you don't do it a lot, it still says enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 03:40 AM
1

"Young girls don't all go to clubs, I don't." "Well I've been to a lot of clubs..."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 03:29 AM
1

What's the "yikes" part for.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 03:25 AM
1

I’ve been to lots of clubs. THAT COUNTS Lot of bar hoppers but the strictly club scene seemed much smaller. I mash the two together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 03:21 AM
2

Might be a location thing then. Everyone I know did it at that age, regardless of social grouping or class.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 03:17 AM
2

But for men, when a woman generally is already in the "hot" category for them, there isn't much more places a woman can go. Good looks can eventually lose their effect too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 03:15 AM
1

I get that both are unattractive behaviours, I'm just a little baffled at the head-spin required to put "took some racy pictures" and "fucked multiple strangers" on the same level. But whatever. What's worse, giving a few hundred dudes jerk-off material or fucking four dudes you met in a club? The answer is that both are bad for different reasons and both involve a girl giving herself away easy. or posting racy Instagram photos for that matter. That one hasn't been proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 01:43 AM
1

No. I find it equally unattractive (for girlfriend/wife material at least) for a girl to act like a club slut and to give away her body like that for free on the internet for likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 01:33 AM
1

Acting like one on the internet and ringing up numbers in the bedroom are the same thing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 01:31 AM
1

I don't think the amount of hos has declined all that much, but there are newer avenues for being a ho (Tindr and Instagram primarily). I dunno, maybe 1000 likes for a gym ho showing off their ass is bigger than being a club slut these days, so they do that instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 01:27 AM
2

That's just it, I'm not the person to go out clubbing or to trashy bars. It was insanely difficult to find someone who just wanted to hang out because everyone was all about having an exciting social life or night life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 01:19 AM
1

Being an instagram gym ho taking pictures of your ass is one of the newer things that wasn't around when I first became an adult, so I was wondering if that's how they've been spending their time instead. One thing that the club hos my age weren't doing was putting in a lot of time at the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 01:18 AM
1

No. Late '80s, I'm technically a Millennial but young enough to have things in common with Gen X.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 01:16 AM
1

Hrm. I wonder how many of those are just slutting around at the gym instead these days
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 01:15 AM
1

You might be in the minority. Back when I was in that range, all you'd ever heard about from girls in that age range is what bar or club they'd be going to on Friday.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 01:09 AM
0

I read constantly as "as much as they can."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 01:04 AM
0

I think it's rare that young girls don't or have never gone clubbing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 01:02 AM
3

Most young girls go to clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 12:56 AM
2

Their mistake, I think. Also I think people who are using pre-nups are planning on just-in-case, so they'd be more open to things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 12:08 AM
2

Loans can support the family, but if you divorce, the education is only going to support the person who got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 11:38 PM
1

Depends. If you bought a house together, that's 50/50. If she or I decides to go to school and gets student loans, that's should stay with the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 11:20 PM
2

I would only accept nudes if there was no face, and even then, I'd probably be more turned on by cleavage or yoga pants than by nudity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 11:13 PM
1

No, I wouldn't be upset, it would be preferable. What's mine is mine and what's hers is hers, and if we decide to separate, we get what is ours back.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 11:12 PM
4

I would argue that people resort to TRP because gynocentrism foists all the work and responsibility on the men for the benefit of only the women. If a man can't trust a woman to stick around/get thirsty for the alpha fux/not take the kids in a divorce if she gets bored, he's not going to bother working for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 11:09 PM
6

Or it might be that she wants the best of both worlds. Alpha fucks, beta bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 11:26 PM
11

It's more that they recognize the deck is stacked against them so they're soft-protesting it by not taking part in it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 06:06 AM
2

None of those things are eccentric.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 03:19 AM
1

Q4All: Can you be a feminist and seek sexual compulsion/assault/harassment from men? (Of course, it's not technically assault if she likes it) Nope. Shitty people now claim to be feminists just to give a cover for their behaviour, the same way pedophiles become priests.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 11:21 PM
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If eccentricity makes you money or the eccentric is physically attractive, then it's a good thing in the dating market. Otherwise, definitely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 11:13 PM
1

I thought rich people tended to have more daughters?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 08:40 AM
1

A kind man who has no power to be unkind is an unattractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 12:49 AM
2

So what’s your point? Are you trying to say that shyness and meekness are qualities that women don’t like? Because if that’s what you mean, then there’s no reason to even bring up kindness. Women only like kindness if the man in question has demonstrated the ability or otherwise has the power to be extremely unkind if they wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 10:31 PM
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No you shouldn't. Not worth the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 07:53 PM
1

"Nice" is in the eye of the beholder and determined by how attractive she thinks he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 07:53 PM
6

Yeah, that's somewhat what I think too. A guy who wants a family more than anything is still going to view that woman as a good woman, I don't consider that to be Beta Bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 09:02 PM
2

Yep, but I think a lot of family-based men would still think that's a good deal because they're getting a good mother for their children and someone who isn't as likely to cut and run. Beta bucks is about having a bad deal all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 08:51 PM
5

That's not totally my definition of beta bucks. That woman sounds like a perfectly good mother and partner despite a difference in sexual needs. Beta bucks is when you're essentially just her spare wallet and she's otherwise not attracted to you as a person at all. There's elements of disrespect to it because she only values your money, will leave if the money dries up (and almost automatically get the kids because she's a waoman), and will actively be attracted to or cheat with the alpha/danger…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 08:37 PM
1

I think they can't have it both ways even if they want to have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 07:46 PM
1

Feminism means you can go make your own money and provide for yourself if you're a woman. That takes more of the onus off of men than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 07:38 PM
1

Internet rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 07:23 PM
4

So? Companies want to pay you as little as possible, they're not your friend. Getting paid what you're worth is better than being paid less and being thought well of
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 01:05 AM
6

Be more careful about who you have sex with Don't try rough sex with people on a first encounter, even if they want you to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 12:21 AM
4

She can't accuse you of rape if you don't fuck her in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 11:49 PM
3

I think feminism is solely based on being anti-male and pushing women ahead of them. As long as that still exists, it's going to cause more harm than good (at least in the west, where women are already equal)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 11:46 PM
8

Not if the deconstruction is one-sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 11:31 PM
2

There is that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 11:02 PM
2

Tradcons are not the majority of people. If anything, they're a significantly shrinking demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 10:47 PM
2

I think that pressure comes more from their parents wanting grandkids and anti-immigration types than not. It's not men saying that to women exclusively and probably not even the majority of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 10:41 PM
1

Granted, my wife is simultaneously the most/least typical woman I've ever interacted with so my case is largely not relevant for "normal" baseline behavior. I think the thing is that exceptions to the general state of things don't disprove the general state of things. You're going to run into generalities far more often than you will exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:58 PM
1

She's still fighting down losing respect for you either way, which is the crux of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:45 PM
3

Why don't you spell out all the signs a mans going to abandon his kids so we all know? Is he a bad boy? Has he been to jail? Can you picture him going to jail? Does he do drugs? Does he party harder than he works at either school or his job? Is he crazy? Does he excite you because of how dangerous he comes off? Also, is he greedy as fuck? Possessive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:37 PM
2

That doesn't sound too far off from what I meant, I just didn't word it quite right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:32 PM
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Like what? A box of chocolates once a year? Men are disposable. There are tons of government programs and societal protections in place to protect and provide women with safety and opportunity. Right, but why are women always expected to do most of the career sacrifice to raise them? Because men will sacrifice more time and more of their bodies to make money for the family and a woman is going to look down on a SAHDad/Father most of the time. A lot of you skip off and leave your kids to live you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:26 PM
2

Housework and primary child-caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:23 PM
11

Nobody is, but you're get life on easy mode. Women are actually handed things because they have vaginas. This thread in particular is an example of it. Why should only women be penalized financially for bringing life into this world? Last i checked there are two parents. Because "making babies" is not a paying job. Though when you do have children, people in general will start giving you more things. More tax breaks or government programs to prop it up too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:08 PM
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Demand a raise. Go into fields that have high pay. Go into jobs that pay high because of the physical danger. Just like men do to get their pay in the first place. Men aren't just handed these things because they have penises, they earn these things. Most of the wage gap can be attributed to women not working those jobs or choosing not to advance their career past a certain stage (because of having children or the stress inherent in it).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 08:51 PM
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Women apparently lose respect for men who do things that women traditionally do. I don't know if that's because it makes them unmanly, or if women were taught by feminism that traditional woman things are beneath them so a man can't earn respect that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 07:56 PM
2

I'm a tall loser, does that mean I'm a low-level overlord? B]
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 04:13 PM
1

I saw that happen in the Tomb Raider reboot game where Lara saved this wimpy guy and I cringed fucking hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 04:11 PM
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Are you assuming violence doesn't happen to men or do you just not care if it does?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 04:08 PM
2

You'll be lonely in your old age regardless, from what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 04:05 PM
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It's a left-over from the time when women didn't work so a guy had to spend money on her to show her that he's serious about being able to take care of her. Women take for granted privileges they used to have and are loathe to give up advantages that would go away if things were truly equal. That being said, if this bothers you, find a girl who isn't materialistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 04:04 PM
6

There is that cliche about people who are dominant in all other forms of their life but submissive in the bedroom so they can give up control and not have to think about or be in charge of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 02:23 PM
1

Tbf I only know of one uncle it happened to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 02:15 PM
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It was apparently a thing that actually happened in the previous generation of the family. She had 11 aunts/uncles, so if there was a problem child they'd eventually end up with whichever aunt/uncle they seemed to listen to the most
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 01:58 PM
1

You're in the running for the gold medal right now
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 03:43 AM
1

Yeah but if she doesn't make me question if she actually values me as a human being or not, she wouldn't be difficult enough for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 03:37 AM
1

I'm sorry you had to date a bunch of me's (without the trading up part, I guess)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 03:20 AM
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Male, have a general belief that women don't want me, feel nothing when someone hugs me. Probably wouldn't believe a woman if she said she wanted me, I'd be waiting for "it" to surface ("it" being whatever it is that she finds out about me that she doesn't want me) WELP
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 02:50 AM
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Are you a guy or a girl, and do you think it affected you at all in how you choose partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 02:07 AM
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My mom was somewhat cold emotionally, had very up-and-down-mood-swings, I can specifically remember the two times she's hugged me in my life (one time was just for show), and I was never sure if she ever even wanted me as her child (more than a few times she made some kind of threat of putting me up for adoption or sending me away to an Uncle or Aunt's place) WELP
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 01:55 AM
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Yeah. I think the telling this that they do tend to be offended when that happens to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 11:22 PM
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Yep. I found it to be an unreasonable amount of work just for the one person in the house who smokes (my dad). It helped my Mom's allergy problems a lot when he stopped being allowed to smoke in the house. He has to do it out on the deck (we do have an overhang) or he has to clean the walls himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 09:28 PM
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Yup @ cleaning. Part of why my dad now smokes outside is because my mom would insist on washing the walls every few months and I started helping as younger teen and was like "fucking nope" to doing it every few months just because he smoked. I think where men and women get crossed up is that women seem to need or desire clean spaces more than men do. I can go a few months without vacuuming or cleaning but then one day I'll notice some cobwebs or something accumulating and then do it all once. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 09:10 PM
1

And celebrity culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 08:34 PM
1

That would be nice, but I'm not holding out hope for that one either ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 06:53 PM
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Oh hey, actually, there's a really good analogy to beta bucks now that I think about it. A job is something you do for money. A passion is something you'd do for free. Beta bucks is the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 06:26 PM
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I wouldn't say "lots." I would say "some." Most people aren't passionate about their jobs. If they didn't have to work, they wouldn't show up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 06:21 PM
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No they're not. They're a thing you go out and get so you can go do what you want to do in your free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 06:04 PM
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Unchangeable traits include things like personality, interests etc. I guess they're not unchangeable but most people are fairly locked into their wider personality traits and interests. Changeable traits can be disappear suddenly (in the case of a lost job) and are ones that you can be used for that takes something from you that you can't get back (money as a prime example).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 05:59 PM
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Beta Bucks is using someone for their accomplishments. You can be more sure of not being Beta Bucks if they actually do like you for your unchangeable traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 05:49 PM
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I probably wouldn't worry too much about you "beta bucks"ing a man, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 05:47 PM
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Because your #1 priority is your daughter. You can never have enough money when you have a kid and single moms are more probably more desperate for stability and security than most women are. That's pretty much the definition of beta bucks. Though I did say "generally" and not "all." More power to you if you're not like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 05:29 PM
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It sounds less like American Men are less marriageable and more that American Women are not adjusting themselves to true equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 04:09 PM
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It's more that stability is a lie. High divorce rates, beta bucks and dead bedrooms. If you look at it that way, it is a scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:46 PM
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I'm primarily thankful that I don't want kids. Trying to keep up with the escalating and unrealistic standards of women destroying female gender roles while strictly enforcing Male gender roles would drive me crazy. I'm secondarily thankful that I'm not American.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:32 PM
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"She isn't interested in your earning capacity, she's interested in your earning capacity." Beta bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:18 PM
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The change would be primarily for the benefit of other people and not myself, I'm not sure how I'm supposed to fake being hyperactively positive when I know the maximum I can ever hope for is to be used as a money object by someone else, and when things are more interesting when I spend time by myself than with people who also never change and don't have much of interest to say :p
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:14 PM
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A) your friend is an outlier, I don't care so his personality would be incompatible with mine. "You're an outlier, I don't care." For me, if a woman was interested in my earning capacity primarily, I wouldn't be interested in her at all. That's a ticket to beta-bucks, and that's the worst insult you can give to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:09 PM
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You are making this far to simplistic. Most women won't leave a guy just because he is fallen on hard times. That's where we differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:05 PM
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If I tried really hard, I would max out at beta bucks. I am dissatisfied because there is no "getting what I want", but not as dissatisfied as I would be if I ended up being that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:04 PM
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You gonna just roll over for that? Let someone else define you for life? There's a point where it's happened so long that it's pretty much true. It doesn't really matter what you think internally if everyone externally is delivering the same message to you. You really think there aren't women out there who are just as frustrated that no one notices them or values them? I know there are, but I also know that they're not interested in me, because the only kind of low-value men that women are attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 02:51 PM
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You really need to change your environment and your crowd. You might be suffering from what I call "cop-itis." When all you work with and see is the sad side of society, you start to think that is all there is. It's not all there is, but you do see people's actions without the fake fronting of higher society to cover it all up. Get off of reddit for awhile and help out at Habitat for Humanity, or something. Nope. Meet chicks (and blokes) Lost interest in that a long time ago. I'm more introverte…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 02:42 PM
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The field you choose and how much money you make are a reflection of your values, intelligence, interests, and work ethic. Those are all valuable inputs when considering a long term relationship. It's a reflection of what you're willing to trade your time for to make money. It's not a reflection of your personality or even your intelligence. I have a neighbour who sounds more like a college professor and speaks eloquently on scientific advancements in power generation, and he spent his life as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 02:36 PM
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No, they're not. Money is something you make, it's not something you are. A complete asshole or the nicest human being you know could both occupy the exact same job and make the exact same money. Both of them could also suddenly lose their jobs to a bad economy or market disruption. Does that mean that event also took away their personalities and who they are? It's like if you had said "take the same guy with six pack abs and give him a beer gut, would you still be attracted to his body?" No, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 02:22 PM
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I grew up in a lower-middle class area of a blue-collar town. Most of the divorces I've seen were initiated by women. Of the two older men I knew who had younger wives, one was not rich but spent money like water and she was gone as soon as the money dried up, and the other has a few mil and has wanted to divorce her but can't because it would cost him too much money in the long-run. I never got the sense that the latter is based on being able to trade up because there was no other women around …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 02:16 PM
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It's more likely than, as an example, if she didn't care much about you at all and then suddenly perked up when she found out how much money you make.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 02:13 PM
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Yeah, I wouldn't classify you as beta bucks. If she likes you're a loser (for lack of a better term), then she probably likes you and anything else is just a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 02:03 PM
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Take the same guy with a decent job, remove his decent paying job. Would you still be attracted to his personality? Because money isn't "who he is", it's something he has. You can reject the Chad because you're not into casual sex and you can reject the poor guy who doesn't have a decent paying job even though you're still attracted to his personality. However, if you took the same guy, and suddenly removed his decent paying job, and you're not longer into him at all, he's beta bucks, because yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 02:02 PM
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You pay for sex because you are either having a hard time finding someone who will have sex with you for free, or don't want to spend all the time and money and effort to convince someone to have sex with you for free and just want to get to it. Women generally don't have problems finding people who will have sex with them, ergo they don't have to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 01:49 PM
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I wouldn't say feminism "failed" because their directives are at-best, pro-female, at worst, anti-male. There is no failure when your directive isn't about helping men in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 01:47 PM
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Because it's hard for men to get sex, and because women will use you for money, and it's rare that a woman will want to stay with you on an interpersonal level without money involved. Money is valuable. Your wallet follows you your entire life. If you get scammed, you look like a sucker and you're out a valuable resource. Beta bucks is a socially-acceptable scam because it's female-based. If you think a woman loves you, but then difficult times hit and she leaves you now that the money's dried u…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 01:31 PM
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It's about mistreating employees. Most companies, especially big corporations do that, because employees are replaceable and they know it. Even Ivy Leagues pump out new graduates every year. So if indeed Google was to be in a position where the only people to work for them were those without options, it'd only be proving me correct. There's only so many of these tech jobs to go around, and you're assuming google is the only one with a bad corporate culture. They all have shitty corporate culture…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 01:27 PM
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I would just want to point-out that I never said "all" women. But depending on how expensive the house and car(s) and if there's hired help or anything like that, that would be a big thing to leave out of determining if you're beta bucks or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 12:44 PM
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Actually, maybe an easier way to put it: If you were making less than her instead of four times what she makes, would she still love you, be sexually attracted to you and be with you? If the answer is "no", you're probably beta bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 12:40 PM
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Not to be confused with women who are actually more turned on by beta traits or wives who are actually sexually attracted to their boring/stable husbands. She probably fits into there then. Though, who paid for where you live, who paid for the car(s) you drive, vacations, etc can also play into it. Dinner and presents are tiny things.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 12:34 PM
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They have no reason to choose to work for a company they know has a shitty corporate culture when they have other options and bargaining power. It's only a shitty corporate culture if you're right wing. Samsung isn't American. Apple and Microsoft are guaranteed to have Liberal leanings too. The same can be said for any major tech company. What makes Google special compared to Apple, Microsoft, Intel, or IBM? That it's hard to get into all of them. People will take the job if they can get into it…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 12:32 PM
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Beta Bucks is not about spoiling, it's about propping up. It's where a guy is principally treated as an extra wallet and not as an attractive, sexual being. He's there to keep her safe, give her stability, and give her extra spending money, or to tie up his money into her kids. He doesn't sexually excite her, she might even do emasculating things to him (henpeck him, cheat on him, etc). Did you ever say a crazy party girl in high school who ended up marrying a religious dude later on? Generally …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 12:15 PM
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You keep saying this but why wouldn't their competitors just increase pay more? Conceivably, google is richer than their competitors. If they were having so much trouble drawing in top talent, they would pay out for them. But I think the reverse is more true, top talent wants to work for them because of what it means to have google on your resume, regardless of personal politics. Most people don't make financial and career decisions based on personal politics, they make it on money decisions, es…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 11:51 AM
1

This is true, but I think that doesn't mean you don't have tons of offers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 08:27 AM
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It wasn't a single person, it was a vast collection of people of differing backgrounds, political and social stripes who independently confirmed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 08:26 AM
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I don't personally know a single man who's ever "traded up" on his wife. The only people you hear about that happening with are billionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 08:24 AM
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are you happy? in the simple sense I don't have a consistently good feeling but most of that is based on not liking how the world works. I have most of the material things I could want already. I hope you are alright <3 That's nice
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 09:45 PM
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I do disagree on both points but we're also probably going to end up going in circles from this point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 09:31 PM
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I'm over 30, technically poor, don't care much for status, don't have or really want a career, and don't have any physically attractive characteristics to make up for it. Low-value male = women don't want me at all. The Purple is because I'm not quite red because I don't apply TRP, but I do believe it's more effective than woken blue pills think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 09:21 PM
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That, nevertheless does not mean a girl seeing a guy dating other girls is suddenly attracted to him out of nowhere for no other reason. You haven't proven "the rule" so you can't immediately disqualify me as an "outlier." You've independently confirmed a PUA and TRP concept with your own experience. Nuanced version: I think women make up their minds relatively quickly whether a guy is completely unattractive to them, not necessarily affirmatively attractive. I disagree. Not being affirmatively …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 09:17 PM
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Your username made me lol, OP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:54 PM
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No, women are attracted to what other women are attracted to. That doesn’t exist in some vacuum where some dude is unattractive to you then boom you learn his N and suddenly he’s desirable. I don’t really get what you’re trying to say here. You basically said social proof wasn't real and then used your own experience to prove that social proof was real. You took a guy that women didn't find attractive and then made him attractive to other women by being with him. I don't think women "gloss over"…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:52 PM
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Being glossed over and unattractive are the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:47 PM
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He wasn't attractive until you made him attractive by having him
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:42 PM
1

Not everyone works the same way, but most people work a similar way. You basically gave your ex the stamp of approval for the rest of your friends, but if your friends or social circle aren't cutthroat, they're not gonna overtly act on it until it's socially "safe" to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:31 PM
2

I’ve seen guys get more interest after I’ve dated them From your own social circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:26 PM
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It's more the social proof. "Boom" you see a girl or two interested in him, suddenly he's desirable, because women want what other women want or have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:18 PM
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If you have a high N count, you are attractive because women want you, and women want what other women want, so the effect builds on itself. Being good-husband material doesn't necessarily make you attractive, it just means you're a good source for material stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:01 PM
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No, women are attracted to what other women are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:55 PM
4

I think it is. The only thing they hate is that they don't stay loyal, so eventually they have to settle for someone lesser.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:47 PM
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No, because they're buying a service, they're not earning it through being highly attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:41 PM
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Women are most attracted to men who can have the most sex partners possible, and will settle with less only because they know those men won't stay with them. But they still want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:26 PM
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Why does it matter whether or not the person insulting you ‘wants you’? If anything, that makes it easier to brush off, doesn’t it? (In this case, I define ‘brushing off’ as ‘deciding not to care about’, to avoid pedantic misunderstanding.) It’s not that it always comes naturally. I have to practice daily self-awareness and redirect myself as best I can whenever I catch myself getting caught up on something someone else has said or done. It gives the other person far too much control over my pea…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:18 PM
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I’m a 32 year old man, yo. My bad And sure. Some people say this about me, it’s true. These people are not my friends or my coworkers, So I don’t care, as they don’t have any impact on my life. The very fact that I do brush it off - “move on”, as it were - and don’t let it bother me seems to be one of my most attractive features. It’s something many of my partners have admitted they were better learning to emulate better because of me. There's nothing for me to brush off, as they don't want me a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 06:06 PM
2

But if I could make an observation about just what you’ve said here, it feels as though each time a solution is suggested, you move the goal post to explain why it wouldn’t work. First it was just ‘anime and video games’. When told where nerdy anime girls that are into anime, you say there are no anime clubs where you are. But have you looked? Every comic book store I’ve ever been to have a whole list of groups and meet ups. And sure, there may be LESS girls than boys, but half of dating is netw…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 05:35 PM
1

Exceptions exist, but you don't plan to meet them because they're rare, you have to be prepared for the mainstream at every angle (though from what I've heard, a lot of women find it to be "nice-guy" behaviour to try to use hobbies to show interest in them even when you do find someone who is into it, so even that's not a good indication of anything. Essentially you can't really win unless she's into you first, which is entirely up to her) (Also Right when Red Shoes gets pushed into Omega, you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:22 PM
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Niche interests are niche for a reason, most people, especially women, only care about mainstream, is the point that I'm saying. Girls liking WWE isn't necessarily as rare as it used to be, but liking anything past that is still pretty rare, and it's more than likely the time being spent on the non-mainstream, non-cool thing is going to be seen as a bad thing, rather than something to dive deeper into. I would also say liking it enough to really figure out what's going on in it is pretty rare to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:53 PM
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That's also primarily WWE. I watch Japanese, Mexican and indie wrestling, the non-mainstream stuff (I was gonna say "non-cool" but New Japan is cool right now if you're an internet wrestling nerd). I spend a lot of free time on it. It's less that they don't know who Harley Race is, it's more that it's push-your-glasses-up cringe if you start talking about Harley Race to someone who only cares about what's happening on Raw or SDL, and the more niche the wrestling you watch, the less social it bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:24 PM
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If you are trying to date a hypergamous bitch that is only satisfied when she knows a lot of money is being spent on trying to fuck her, then you are right. I wouldn't put it quite like that, but I do think most women want men's time and effort being spent on things that improve their lives or social standing, not on uncool or solo hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:07 PM
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You'd be surprised. I met one of my long-term girlfriends through D&D. Our tabletop games were populated mostly from anime club. I'm not in university. A lot of people aren't. The assumption that no females are interested in nerdy things is a lie that society tells men to make them feel bad for being nerdy. Because it's not socially attractive. Women tend like guys who are socially attractive or impressive, being a nerd is not attractive unless you're a rich nerd. And even then, you know she's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:05 PM
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I disagree. If you're passionate about fantasy football or anime or single-player video games, they're going to roll their eyes at it, and if you like very male-specific hobbies, you'll never see other women while doing them. I could tell you the ins and outs of professional wrestling because I love the shit out of it, but no girl is going to be impressed by that. You basically have to hope your hobbies are social, not a sausage-fest and don't have a social-stigma attached to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:32 PM
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Yeah they can indeed just stick to only hiring lefties, but now they've still cut back on their potential pool of talent because they'd rather push politics on their employees. That's just downright bad business. Or increase pay so that the hard-righties can't say no, because they tend to be more about the money than lefties or apolitical people are. Give it a few years. We're starting to go on "decades" now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:21 PM
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Nah, there is a sizable portion of the dating population that meets people through hobbies. Men should be cultivating different hobbies and interests, not only going out to bars and trying to hook up with women. If this is all they do, they will be very uninteresting and won't have luck anyway. As long as you have the "right" hobbies, or aren't an introvert. Also, with Tinder, you have the power to frame what type of interaction you want to have with your match. Contrary to popular belief you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:19 PM
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Without knowing your own circumstances, I'm not going to assume I know where you're coming from or what you've been through. But identifying as "low-quality" sounds like settling. It implies you think of it as a state of being that you can't get out of, and that you are doomed to live in. It's more that the things I can improve on are artificial. They have nothing to do with me as a person and everything to do with material things, like money (I don't have much of any), status (don't have any, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:18 PM
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I don't understand why they don't find women to game outside of these environments - their chances to find someone they actually like would be much higher. I would say because it's really hard to find people outside of bars or tinder interested in doing anything. People go to bars and tinder to get picked up, they don't go to the grocery store looking to get picked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 01:58 PM
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Men don't want to be traded-up on by women regardless of quality. Women will trade up on men regardless of quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 01:57 PM
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You got these people coming out of Harvard every year being seduced by many huge companies all offering high salaries and prestigious positions. Why would you work for one you know will treat you with contempt? Because Google is the equivalent of one of those Ivy League Schools in the tech world and they can pay the kind of money you want to earn. They will when those people can also get equally high paying jobs at other companies. Then Google just has to offer more money, which they can. Or shr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 01:21 PM
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But you have to see that is categorically false, don't you? Do you honestly believe it's literally impossible for relationships to form where both members just... like each other and want to help one another succeed? I'm a low value male, and from what I've noticed being such, relationships are entirely conditional on non-me material or status things. Which means the difference between a woman accepting me or not accepting me is those things and I'm otherwise not important to the process as a pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 01:09 PM
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Because AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 12:52 PM
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And tech companies go in and out of fashion all the time. I'm not saying Google will get killed over this kind of stuff, but they also shouldn't be arrogant enough to think being a huge tech company makes them invincible and above the law. And having a shitty internal culture will make it more difficult for them to get talented employees who will develop quality products and keep them ahead of the highly competitive industry in which they reside. Those other companies were taken down by their pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 12:45 PM
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Google is too much of a powerhouse. People aren't going to arbitrarily dump stock in it because of internal problems, it's too intertwined in our daily lives and they have too many futuristic plans. They're also a multinational. If they really wanted to, they could just fuck off and move to another country that won't bother them about things they don't want to be bothered about. This is likely too small for them to actually do that, but it does show how powerful they are relative to any kind of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 12:17 PM
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"If you're black, maybe go work for a more black friendly company." I would say this too. In a perfect world, it wouldn't happen, but in the real world, it does happen. If you're good enough to work a multinational corporation like Google, it shouldn't be too hard to find another job. The reason this has gone to court is because discrimination by political views, race, and gender is illegal, and there is ample evidence Google encourages all of it. I think even if they're found guilty, it's diffi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 12:03 PM
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If you're a Conservative, maybe go work for a more-Conservative friendly company
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 11:55 AM
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To me, it's more that being the "beta provider" when it's now more known that women won't be loyal and will cheat with "chad" is an insult to every and any effort you can put into a marriage. It's less that I don't want a tradcon wife and more that I don't trust her, because women have shown themselves to be untrustworthy as a whole, and the message of the western world is "you go girl" regardless if her behaviour is good or bad. Social power is heavily tilted towards woman and they don't sacrif…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 11:51 AM
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"Asking out." No. However if I was a man who had a reputation or a name I'd like to uphold, I would not be taking risks with women (which is probably unattractive, but I think they should've thought about that before demonizing little things that men do or at least not shouting down the people doing the demonizing) and I would not be doing anything rough with someone I barely knew (which should probably be the smart thing to do anyways?)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 09:18 PM
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