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determinism_is_truth/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 07:57 PM
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While it is true that rich people are abusing their wealth and political power to play with the masses, that isnt the point of this subreddit, although i too am open to this discussion (screw the rules xd) The point here is that women, all women, through evolution, have greater inherent worth than their male counterpart. If equality is ever to be achieved, and i wish for it, then one day, we will have to adress this fundamental biological inequality. I dont want to rule over my woman with an iro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:02 PM
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What an excellent basis for an equal society. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 10:49 PM
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And agree this is all true, and i want it changed. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 10:41 PM
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Well then i guess i misunderstood what you tried to say, i have re read this comment chain and i still dont get it. Can you explain it better?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 10:39 PM
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Men are abandoned every day in factories and construction sites as work related casualties. Men are abandoned every time they are told to "man up" and internalize their evolutionary role as a tool for taming nature. And just as any other tool breaks, so do men, and then they end up abandoned. The definition fits quite well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 10:36 PM
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What women consider their male counterpart vs what their objective male counter part is, are two different things. Thats why i mentioned incels because these men also have their objective female counterpart that does not consider him to be her objective male counterpart. And in this error lies the root of problem that is the existence of incels. If men and women compose roughly 50% of population, then that means that even the most bottom of the barrel guys have an objective female counterpart.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 10:31 PM
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I know it was an exaggeration, but when analyzing hypothetical scenarios you use extremes of said scenarios, as extremes also contain within themselves all possible probabilities. When i said "women live porn" i ment it relative to men (who definitely dont)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 10:25 PM
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People really report comments on a debate subreddit? Dont they get it that censorship is the fast track to becoming an echo chamber? If opposing views cant be seen, let alone challenged, nothing will ever change. Well, dear readers. I challenge you. Face me in the duel of wits instead cowering behind the authority of mods. ( i know, i sounded theatrical xd)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 10:21 PM
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yes, make fun of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 10:18 PM
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Wait, do you really go around reading all of peoples comments? xd
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 10:15 PM
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Incels are the proletariat. If incels had money, they wouldnt be incels. Well there would be less of them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 10:14 PM
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Fat, dark skinned and older women are left in the dust like everyone else Adjectives dont matter. What matters is, is who are these womens male counterpart. Since women only date up, what women consider their male counterpart vs what their objective male counter part is, are two different things. Thats why i mentioned incels because these men also have their objective female counterpart that does not consider him to be her objective male counterpart. And in this error lies the root of problem th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 10:00 PM
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And inherent in that problem is the risk of failure. And what happens then... thats why i added the "(and most likely fail)" part along with "titanic" as an analogy of an unsolvable problem where someone has to drown.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 09:54 PM
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You're a 5 you date 5's. Good luck getting this through said 5's girls head. Men might watch porn, women live porn. Women only date up. That's why hot men have so many options, and on the other side, incels have none. Average guy's an asshole who's gonna resent the fact that best he could do is a 5 and treat her like shit Xd what a woman considers her male counterpart vs what actually is her male counterpart are 2 very different thigns. Because some women's counterparts would be incels... and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 09:48 PM
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I would say/hope that the vast majority of people don’t have animosity towards entire genders besides Twitter feminists and incels Well i dont know about twitter feminists but incels just recognize the power evolution gives women through their inherent worth. That is the basis of their animosity. If genders were equal, said animosity wouldnt exist. Plus an incel cant claim they "hate all women" since they all want one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 09:34 PM
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...deymn kids, back in my days we werent young.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 09:31 PM
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Men dont "ree" xddd about those things. They "ree" about the fundamental imbalance of power that women use against them. Come one i addressed this to you in this other comment chain: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ek1m1q/anti_feminists_on_the_internet_are_just/fd4npsn/?context=3 But anyway ill repeat myself. Evolution made women with inherent value and made men compete. Women using this inherent value as a leverage against men. If you are not a psychopath, you should understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 09:07 PM
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This train of thought is exactly why men yell "beat all women!" and similar things. So much from the "emphatic" gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 08:48 PM
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Uh they can say no Yea and guess what, that has consequences. Thats why i made that "employee" analogy, because men cant weather the consequences and therefore are not free. The consequences here being that, as he is more replacable than her, she can find another guy far easier than he can find another girl. And in fact will stay alone for who knows how long. MGTOW is nonsense. A man, as long as he is paying taxes and is working as a part of a society, he cant truly go his own way because sooner…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 08:45 PM
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What a joke. Women hold men hostage by using their inherent value as a leverage to force men into things they themselves will never have to do. "femcels" Let them eat cake: At length I remembered the last resort of a great princess who, when told that the peasants had no bread, replied: "Then let them eat brioches." — Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Confessions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 08:37 PM
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What? How did you conclude this from that comment. In your original post you said that ... anti feminists" online say things like they can't wait to be able to beat up women ... Men dont want to beat up women, men just recognise the fundamental imbalance of power that women have over men. Women have inherent worth while men dont. As psychologist Roy Baumeister put it: “What seems to have worked best for cultures is to play off the men against each other, competing for respect and other rewards t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 08:33 PM
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Since I have never been in that situation I can’t tell you how I would react or he would react People are capable of simulating possible futures. Heres a possibility with a rather high chance of happening if you two ever find yourselves in that situation. The man will realise that he, as per male gender role, is more capable and more expendable than you and will attempt to solve the problem (and most likely fail). The next time "titanic sinks" women will go to the life boats and men will drown a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 08:23 PM
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This is a comment all men should read, well women should too: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ee5qb2/why_do_quite_many_red_pillers_seem_incapable_to/fbqr171?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 08:19 PM
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When analyzing hypothetical scenarios you use extremes of said scenarios, as extremes also contain within themselves all possible probabilities. The fact that "you didnt find yourselves in that situation" does not address the point. What would happen if you did find yourselves in that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 08:10 PM
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There isnt that much difference between anger and jealousy. Both are contained in the same group of emotions Anyway: The hatred part will ruin your own life more than theirs I said this because it doesnt matter what emotions one has if he doesnt have the power to act on them. Thats why i made that comparison to middle east and first world countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:40 PM
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What other emotion can result in one seeking revenge aside from hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:24 PM
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That's partially why Tinder is not that popular among women as it is among men. Tinder isnt popular among women as women dont have a need for it. Why look at men fighting for you on the internet, when you can watch them fight for you in real life. Women complain that men watch porn... women live porn. Now if said woman isnt getting her daily dose of "gladiatorial bloodshed" between men, sure she will make a tinder account.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:10 PM
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While they may have game, that isnt the critical part of their success. What is i dont know. As if Tinder would not cause selection bias Well i guess we will have to wait for china to make their dating app that will include all residents of their country. Then there wont be selection bias anymore. But anyway, do you think the results will change? I dont think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 03:35 PM
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In universe governed by cause and effect, free will is an illusion. If matter is calculably predictable, and if we are made of matter. Then we too are calculably predictable. Their is always a chance for failure. Just as their is always a chance of success There are no chances of anything happening. The state things can be in is binary. Something did happen (1) or didnt (0). That gun that jammed didnt jam randomly, there was cause, maybe some dirt got stuck somewhere or whatever, but it wasnt ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 03:31 PM
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The hatred part will ruin your own life more than theirs The truthfulness of this part relies entirely on the balance of power between 2 individuals that hate each other. If a man hates a woman in the middle east. The woman dies. If the woman hates the man, nothing happens. If a man hates a woman in the first world, nothing happens. If the woman hates the man, he ends up homeless and in jail, possibly raped. As you can see, while middle east is imbalanced and should be corrected, the first world…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 03:24 PM
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Most women are not purely visual, they would not fuck an autist-Chad If tinder proved anything is that they would. And not just an autist-chad but you might as well add in some more bad adjectives to it. Just look at deadbeats. These men are so desirable even if they are broke as hell and act like complete assholes, thats why i said you may as well add more bad adjectives to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 03:20 PM
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a fitting flair alright xd
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:45 AM
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I dont understand what you tried to say with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:43 AM
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I agree, but you misunderstood what i tried to say. A risk is uncertain. Meaning it isnt guaranteed. These things you mentioned, are bad, but they are also guaranteed, and hence cant be called a risk. Tell me if someone plays russian roulette with a fully loaded gun. Is the guy at risk, of dying, or is he guaranteed to die? Risk implies a chance of success, there is no chance for success here meaning failure is guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:40 AM
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I dont know about women, but the thing about men is that it really does not matter what they say because they are under pressure to perform. No man will admit weakness even in face insurmountable odds. Thats why men inflate their number of partners: 77% of 18-34 year old men had sex in the last year1 Nonsense. And even if it wasnt that can be understood as "had sex once in the whole year" 67% of men disagreed/strongly disagreed with the statement "Marriage has not worked out for most people I kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:33 AM
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The risk goes way way down, and so does the excitement Not really, when people have equal power the risk does not go down, it goes up because you never know what the other might do. In fact in a perfectly imbalanced relationship there is no risk at all. If the man has all the power he will continue to sleep with his wife and other women. If the woman has all the power, she will cuck her husband with the most barbaric guy she can find. Since these things are guaranteed, there really is no risk an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:22 AM
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She is talking about sorting algorythims.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:14 AM
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He saw a hot chick and his balls and brain told him that this is something he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:10 AM
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No, men hate women who abuse the fundamental biological imbalance of power that women have over men, to hold men hostage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:08 AM
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Women tend to offer more in relationships than men do XD what do women offer that men cant do better, except give sex to said man. What do men bring to the table again Entirety of civilization literately rests on shoulders of men. What do you think, by who was the building built in which you live, by male builders and engineers, this electoroinc device you use was built by men, and not just any men but by men women dont even consider. Hah, most men are emotionally retarded and actually use women…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:01 AM
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There is no such thing as game. A guy that is attractive does not need game, he does not need anything else but his mere presence will be enough. If his presence isnt enough he can attempt "to game women"- meaning act like a clown. If a woman is attracted, she is, if she isnt, she isnt. Its all about relative attractiveness. If all men suddenly disappeared, but one previously hopeless loser, said loser wouldnt need game now since he, as the only male left, would be desirable by default. Hence "g…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:45 AM
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You are missing the point. Evolutionarily speaking men are donkeys with a carrot dangling above their heads, no matter how fast the donkey runs, he can never reach it. Only when the donkey throws off his rider (the woman) can he get the carrot. Thats what religions did. I guess i admit, even as an atheist, religions were right about, at least, that one thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:37 AM
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Well you are lucky i guess. In nature males compete and females choose. Try to put yourself in the shoes of men who arent chosen. If they act like you suggest, the woman in question would just leave said man because she knows she can find another man easier than he can find another woman. Most men are in this position. But you need to stop looking at yourself and saying "but this does not apply to me". Take a step back and look at the larger picture and see the implications of evolution on human…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 03:29 AM
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Way to miss the point. I know its not attractive but men dont have options. Thats why i said that something can just as well be "failed to adhere to her every whim". Because women can make outrageous demands (in the sellers market) and men (buyers) must comply (or they can just go away and women wont be affected). They must comply because supply is greater than demand, hence sellers market. What is a seller’s market? Simply put, it's a market where there are more home buyers than sellers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 02:35 AM
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What you can change is your value What we can also change, and must, is the balance of power. Evolution says women are worth more than men, and this spills over into all areas of life. That is why legalism will never make us equal, because we are biologically unequal. Women are superior. I suggest a rebalance (whish is open for discussion). Since women have more biological value (and hence power), men should have more legal power (this legal power part open for discussion). Weather this or some …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:13 AM
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You actually can. In the case of men, the best way to change the behavior of men (at large) is to get women to stop having sex with men who exhibit behaviors you want changed. Feminists are using this tactic. You know how they say "be a strong independant woman, who doesnt need no man", the subtext of this is a "more powerful than her, man". I dont know how you can change the behavior of women (at large) since they are immune to pressure that is the lack of sexual options. But it works against m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:03 AM
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I mean... so... "nice guys" are problematic all on their own. They don't need any help becoming as you say, "bitter about everything". Women do not make them bitter and jaded, their warped world view does that. xd yea lets just ignore the fundamental imbalance biological imbalance of power between men and women. The fact that men need to chase and approach again and again is proof of said imbalance of power. The fact that some men need to use manipulative tactics to get what women have just by b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:59 AM
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But the truth is, men are not forced to date. If there aren't enough "nice" women around, then simply don't date. XD lets just ignore the fact that we are a social species and that we dont like being alone. Men are slaves to the pussy because evolution designed them like that. Anyone who prusues equality must face this fundamental biological inequality. The fact that evolution says women are worth more than men. This is why legalism will never bring about equality. Freedom is the ability to say …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:28 AM
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The disconnect we are having is you are somehow completely missing the point about why "nice guys" have a message about them. "Nice guys" are being shamed not for being good people, but for the hypocrisy of calling themselves good people while being emotionally abusive themselves. This isnt true. Just because you attached "being abuseive themselves" to the label "nice guy" doesnt make it true. Just because china calls it self communist doesnt make it so any more than america is capitalist. Becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:21 AM
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The very idea that we need some kind of a message for men to "watch out for controlling women" and to "stand up for themselves" (or even a message for women to "respect your husband's preferences around the house" or "be nicer to your boyfriend") is essentially viewed as sexist or offensive, no matter how valid that message is. I didnt even realise how true this is. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 11:53 PM
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The remaining women are obviously incredibly manipulative They wouldnt be if the balance of power was different, more equal. If these women risked rejection and lonliness in the same intensity as the guy, they wouldnt be manipulative for fear of being rejected and ending up alone. Since this isnt true, the balance of power is skewed in favour of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 11:52 PM
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A slave curses his owner The owner replies: "when your solution to a problem is changing everyone ELSE--you are a totalitarian" xd Slave: xd wtf that makes no sense. I am the one over which you exercise power. How can i be a totalitarian if you arent. In fact since you hold power over me, doesnt that make you the totalitarian... you hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 11:49 PM
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misogynist is someone who either thinks less of women or hate for women Wait, this is only true if said hate is unwarranted. If you are wronged by someone, its natural to dislike said person. Not everything a man does that is against womens wishes makes him a mysogonist anymore than it makes a woman misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 11:46 PM
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because the man has done something Oh yea... and in a sellers market that something can just as well be "failed to adhere to her every whim".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 11:43 PM
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Even guys on here know that 30% divorces are initiated by the husband, so you cant even lie properly. Thats an interesting way of saying that women initiate the other 70% but whatever. Then why do so many guys on here whine about women on Instagram and Tinder instead of finding women in other places? Men whine about women in all places, not just the internet. The difficulty of finding a woman does not change in either medium. Well, i guess its even harder on the internet because other men really…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:46 PM
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Women are the ones who divorce husbands What do you mean "prove it". Why would a man ever divorce his wife when he stands to lose half of everything he owns? He is a hostage here. No one wants to hear you Then why did you ask the question. To cheat on women. - the fact that he can even cheat on women speaks more of women than him. Why do women prefer such men. Stop it. Apex fallacy. Oh yes, the "Nothing's ever my fault" mentality. Thank for proving this isn't just an SJW phenomenon. There were p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 05:59 PM
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To pursue certain women - that doesnt mean anything. A dog chases a car and never catches it. To cheat on women. - the fact that he can even cheat on women speaks more of women than him. Why do women prefer such men. Stop it. Apex fallacy. To improve their personality or stay shitty - yes we should just dance as you command right? To spend money on thots - EXACTLY. women can choose whatever man they like. Thats why men try to earn money. because there is always a guy that is stronger richer pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 05:13 PM
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Wow, good job with that ending xd
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 02:59 PM
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Then get a better one Because men have the power to choose. XD ever heard of evolution. Most men take what they can get, women are the ones who can afford to be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 02:57 PM
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i wish i had your sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 10:00 PM
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And yet, when I asked a question about this, I got very few example from random women mocking men's masculinity Oh no, the reality is far worse. Its not random women, its your woman. The one woman who should love you and you should mean the world to her enforces... this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 09:32 PM
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Wow, the purge really does bring out the geniuses when we dont have to filter thoughts through those nonsense rules. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 09:26 PM
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Good job, you are among the few women I see that have demonstrated such a causal train of thought. This wasnt backhanded compliment even though it seems like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 09:23 PM
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Thats like saying those guys from flat earth gotto at least have something right no? Usually they have a very basic understanding of reality, that while also true, it ignores pretty much everything else and makes a bunch of mistakes as soon as you introduce a concept such as a vector. Because vectors define how things move (meaning if you throw a rock far enough and the rock makes a an elliptic trajectory instead of a parabolic one, that means the world in which you exist isnt an infinitely flat…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 12:58 PM
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Yeah - but is the dude acting like a hotrod, or a busted 1994 Toyota Camry? This question is pointless as it is women who have the power to choose. In todays world a man has to bend himself backwards to spark interest in a woman who has, through dating apps, access to men who are taller, stronger, richer, more popular, better looking, everything more than this guy. If he doesnt he will just get replaced. Evolution made men expendable. If the guy wasnt a hotrod, she wouldnt be his girlfriend... u…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 12:37 PM
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Yes i know what you are trying to say "does a giant know he stepped on an ant?" But the thing is we are supposed to be aware of how we impact others, i mean this is what empathy is. Being able to put ourselves in other peoples shoes. How do you think those girls would react had they been treated as "orbiters" or the female equivalent. They would react negatively, so they really dont have any room to act surprised here. Their choice is willful ignorance, and in time of technology and easy access …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 12:33 PM
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The Red Pill just convinces men they don’t need the same, which harms men the most in my opinion. No, it teaches you that showing vulnerability to women, the one you are interested in, is a bad idea. Because women dont like vulnerable men. You can discuss things with your close guy friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 11:31 PM
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Well as horrible as trp is, it wouldnt exist if it werent right about, at least, some things, right? Its the same thing with stereotypes. They can only exist if they are true most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 11:28 PM
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When he made the comparison with maintaining a machine i think it was more like how car guys maintain their hotrods. They give it the best polish and highest quality fuel and a bunch of other gimicks as special care for their special car. In the same sense, a woman should maintain her husband like a car guy maintains his hotrod, willingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:50 PM
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Well i guess our perspectives in life are sooo different i just cant comprehend this: But something that no one seems to be talking about besides in obscure corners of the internet is the prevalence of men rejecting their women in favor of porn. Incels cannot fathom that this exists because they feel that having a woman who wants to have sex is a unicorn they would never deny It also made the necessity for sex with me a zero. . men do not get off on their partners as much as they do the model bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 10:49 AM
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Wait i was looking through some of my comments and i see you didnt address the most important part from my comment. I am writing this now, even though we have talked about this, because i want to hear your opinion. Can you address this please: Since we are all about equality and shit, well when are we going to address the fundamental inequality between men and women? The evolutionary inequality where evolution states that a female (of any species) is more important than the male. Sure we might b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 12:36 PM
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Men "eat fast food" (watch porn) because they cant get the real thing. Sure you get addicted to it, but you cant just not satisfy a need. Men need women more than women need men, and they are using this as a leverage against men. And no it’s not cause the gf got lazier or fat. More and more men rely so much on porn that real life doesn’t do it anymore. Exactly. Why is this the case. The woman can just say "my head hurts" or give whatever other excuse. Women have the power to change a man at whim…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 12:30 PM
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Now I get females here and there because I come across as genuiene, masculine, sincere without ulterior motives. And what would those ulterior motives be that the supposed other men have. Using women for sex? Wrong. Men dont use women. Men and women enjoy sex together. You addiction to pornography is no different than hunger. It is a need that was unmet by the "proper" way. Men watch porn because they cant get a woman. No man starts his life being an addict (of any kind). Its only after countles…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:22 PM
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It’s an addiction. Thats like saying when you are hungry, you are addicted to food. No its just that your need has not been met. The fact that women just shrug of the "male need" kinda makes me doubt that women are an "emphatic gender". Imagine having all your sexual and emotional needs met. Like i cant even imagine this. You are mixing cause and effect. Men watch porn because they cant "eat" anything else. Can you blame a hobo for being hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:16 PM
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But you cant be pro true equality without acknowledging the fundamental biological inequality. And feminists certainly aint doing anything to correct it. We give you a little rope and you kill us all and then hang yourself I guess this was a metaphor. Whats this? but the problem is you keep demonstrating why you’re not worthy of it because y’all can’t behave And how should we behave. Should we just sit in quiet and hope we got chosen... and since we wont be chosen just sit in misery? You see eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 08:31 PM
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Please, just read this comment. It verbalized the problem better than i ever will. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ee5qb2/why_do_quite_many_red_pillers_seem_incapable_to/fbqr171?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 08:26 PM
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While this isnt true, the feminism is even worse than this. Men dont "gang up", men and women marry and live together. Sure maybe not "happily ever after" but not in complete misery either. But today... oh boy. Women use their inherent value as a leverage over men to force them into a literal winners-takes-all-arms-race as was envisioned by evolution, and now they also have the backing of the law to insure that their exercise of power goes unchallenged over men. How much more must men scramble t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 08:22 PM
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Men compete and women choose. And places with arranged marriages are shitholes. Its like a cruel twist of fate where a man tried to wrench the power back from the women... only to end up a genetically flawed society. You always hear the stories of a "brave hero fight a dragon to save the princess"... while in real life most "heroes" fail. But that doesnt matter, because there is always the next hero to try his luck at "saving the princess". In the end the "princess always gets saved while the bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 08:05 PM
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This comment verbalized the problem in the best way ever, and all men should read it. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ee5qb2/why_do_quite_many_red_pillers_seem_incapable_to/fbqr171?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:54 PM
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While this thread is a joke. Your comment of you having inherent value is true. I am in such pain i am at a loss of words. You use the power evolution gave you to hurt others in the way they simply cant defend themselves. This comment is no different than a master gloating over a slave for being powerless. Men are strong and smart and big and everything... because women can demand it. In the end a pawn is always used to protect the king... guess which one of us is the pawn and which is the king …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:51 PM
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English isnt my native so i didnt really understand what you tried to say here. Anyway, And if u ask me im the %1 left Well idk about this. If you were the 1%. You wouldnt be on reddit. You would be sipping martinis on a beach lying on a towel made of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:35 PM
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The fact that men bend themselves over backwards to attract a woman is proof of the imbalance of power. A woman can find a man any day she wants. A man cant. Why, evolution says so. And women enjoy the fact that men are expendable tools. If you had to bet on "who would attract a partner faster" between a man and a woman. I think we would both choose a woman. I can't get my dick wet Not being able to get ones "dick wet" spills over into other areas of life. Its never just this. I mean women in fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:29 PM
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MAN chase, MAN has power just look at animals Bruh xd lets look at animals. You have 1 alpha male and the rest of males are discarded. Guess which one are you most likely to be (the 99%) Such power, right? xd edit1 that "you" would be "you" as in "a generic male"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:20 PM
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You arent even aware of the power being the "reproductive bottleneck" gives you. The very fact that you are a female means you are valued more than your male equivalent. Thats not my opinion, that is the fact of evolution. Everything else you mentioned such as rights, is secondary. It is secondary because rights are a consequence of power. Tell me, why do men chase women. They chase them because they cant afford to sit because a man that doesnt chase will never get a woman. And while men chase, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:11 PM
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There is even a better question. Since we are all about equality and shit, well when are we going to address the fundamental inequality between men and women? The evolutionary inequality where evolution states that a female (of any species) is more important than the male. Sure we might be equal "legally" be we arent equal "evolutionarily". In the end the female imperative has been satisfied at the expense of the male since forever. Actions speak louder than words. Answer me feminists!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:04 PM
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spotting a mooch Exactly, the elites are merely waving their hands on what they want to happen and since they have the money their will is made reality. And since snowballing effect exists, unless these elites fuck up quite alot, they will never stop being elites. Meanwhile the workers do things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 06:40 PM
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Well it easy being moral when your needs are met. Would you say the same had you been the short one (in the meme). Bear in mind, not seeing the game is not an option as it is a metaphor for a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 05:34 PM
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https://cdn3.publichealthonline.gwu.edu/content/47daa114889b44afba05defe07796c7b/EquityVsEquality.png Well isnt equity better then? Remember you yourself could have ended up the short one behind the fence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 05:09 PM
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Well yes in theory but look at whats happening right now. Since people dont have equal opportunities they dont have equal outcomes (far from equal). You have rich people that can buy politicians to do whatever they want, meaning exert force over those who cant buy politicians. And this turns into a snowballing effect. The more you are able to force people to do things, the more you will be able to force people tomorrow. Wait, haven't you switched terms. Equity. You are in pursuit of equity. Thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 04:54 PM
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Well i think its actually one and the same. Equal opportunity requires equal outcome because todays outcomes are tomorrows opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 03:22 PM
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We, as a society, should ensure that we stay out of that person's way so they can improve themselves Actually you are right. Good job. You definitely have convinced me that people sway to one side or the other (politically) based on their perception of their own appearance What? Well i am actually not ugly, when i look at myself in the mirror i am actually quite pleased how i look. My deficiencies are psychological. I was bullied for 7 years out of 8 in the elementary school. This resulted in me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 03:08 PM
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Oh yea that kid in africa needs to suck it up... its his fault he was born in africa. While me, a noble firstworlder, through hard effort have I been born here. /s Yes in the end the one in the unfortunate circumstances will have to "pull him self by the bootstraps". But we (as a society) should ensure no one ends up in such a situation. Because it is us too that could have easily ended up there... had our circumstances been the same. You're ascribing a lot of qualities to me without any knowled…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 02:22 PM
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But one must be happy alone Bruh, we as a social species cant be happy alone. And i refuse to indulge in mental gymnastics to try to convince my self that everything is ok when it isnt. Depends on the value of the man Well yes, and most men dont hold enough value, relative to women, to afford the ability to be picky. Because evolution says men are expendable. Good for you that you managed to find a unicorn, but take a step back and see the system that is life, according to evolution, as a whole.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 02:14 PM
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they're agents of their own free will XD tell me, agent of free will. Can you make a random action? Can you think of a truly random thought. Math disagrees with you. In the end what we are is a bunch of chemicals slushing around in the bag we call our brain. If all matter is calculably predictable, and if we are made of matter. Then we too are calculably predictable. Your free will is an illusion. You are not above science.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 02:10 PM
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Nah, its run by psychopaths (i know they arent mutually exclusive) who only go for power. You think those boards of directors in corporations care about what feminists think? One can give feminists the benefit of doubt by saying "the road to hell is paved in good intentions", but these psychopaths? They would burn the world if they would benefit from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 02:05 PM
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There is no such thing as weak or strong men, there are only circumstances one managed to find him self in. Tell me who is stronger, person born in a first world country, or a person born in a shithole. A person born in a shithole will struggle his whole life for things a person in a first world country does not even break a sweat. When you take a look at men same are through no fault/effort of their own, in a worse/better place than others. You ascribe uncontrollable variables to laziness. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 02:03 PM
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Well its nice what you say, but will your actions mirror your words?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 09:39 AM
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Men dont vet women because men dont have the power. If men started to introduce "limiting conditions" such as "must have this and that", the already small sample of women would shrink even more. And soon enough you get what is in math called "an empty set". Men arent picky because if they were, there wouldnt be any women for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 09:38 AM
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Well if you disagree with me that capitalism is the perfect divide and conquer strategy. I would like to hear why is that. Its alot easier for me to change, than for me to change the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 09:23 AM
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Shaming a loser into being less of a loser never worked. Its like telling people to stop being poor. No one is a loser because he wants to be a loser. No one should profit out of others misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 09:20 AM
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You can make all the claims in the world to be caring about the problems of the other, but that doesn't mean that you actually have insight into what the other one really wants to solve their problems or what their actual perceived problems are. Well some problems are far more obvious than others. I think we all agree on having needs as per maslows hierarchy. Sure the higher you go up the pyramid the different people will get, but on the base level, we are all the same. The fact that some of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 09:17 AM
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You just had to throw that in there didn't you? "Built by men." It's messed up when dudes do that because we weren't allowed an education I guess i should have worded myself better, i meant that even today STEM is a sausage fest. Hypergamy is already dying Also, men were the ones who treated other men as expendable tools. Women never really did that Tell me, why do women continuously side with such men. Its like "oh no dont blame me (woman), i am just an unwitting beneficiary (of some men shitti…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 09:12 AM
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I wouldnt say deference, i think that, saying that the proletariat was brainwashed by the elites, is more correct. I mean in a sense capitalism is the perfect divide and conquer strategy. Lets take a look at slavery. You used to have a master-slave society, meaning the system was binary. You were either free, or you werent. Today the systam isnt binary, it is relative. You can be more/less a master/slave than someone else. The perfect example of this is middle management and small businesses own…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 09:03 AM
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it was a metaphor
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 07:09 PM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 07:07 PM
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Yes, love is most definitely a chemical reaction. But like you said, so is everything else people experience. Even raw sensory input like sight, hearing or balance is really just chemical reactions interpreted by your brain. So we're back to square one. What is love? What? You just answered your own question. I disagree on there being not enough decent women to choose from. There are enough out there that you can find one if you search hard enough, even when vetting thoroughly. There are more me…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 07:05 PM
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What does this mean? Should we all just throw our arms in the air and say: "oh well we tried and the psychopathic capitalists won, i guess we should just be obedient worker drones now"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 06:47 PM
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do you think they do opinion polls first? lol Well they dont, but you dont need a poll to know a zebra(worker) doesnt want to get eaten by a lion(whoever is in power)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 06:45 PM
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Most people can't even agree on a good definition for love, XD well rick and morty says that it is a chemical reaction that forces animals to breed. It being a series of chemical reactions does not sound unplausible to me. In the end, our brains are just a bag of chemicals that give rise to consciousness and what not... but still just a bag of chemicals. If you're not the type of guy that women are willing to approach, you can still vet who you choose to approach The thing is if men did that soo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 06:43 PM
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These men are blinded. Men need to realize that evolution made us expendable. The first step in solving any problem is being aware of its existence. And these men arent aware of their expendability that is for sure. As soon as these men realize they have been manipulated, they will stop being feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 06:35 PM
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wait, stable families are good for workers, organized religion is not. Organized religion is a source of power for certain groups to influence and coerce those lesser than themselves. I mean just look at things like crusades or jihad. And anyway, shouldnt all freedom loving people be marxists? I mean on the political compass, you have left-right (progresivism-traditionalism) and authoritarianism-libertarianism. Ill leave left and right part of this out. But lets take a look at authoritarianism-l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 06:32 PM
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Men are thirsty because women need men less then men need women. That is why men approach women. Men who sit and wait for a woman to become thirsty enough to approach, never get approached at all. Stuff like love and attraction can't be analyzed like that, no matter how much you want to. I understand why you say a lot of men want to quantify, but what I'm saying is that they simply can't We live in a deterministic universe, and a calculably deterministic one at that. People can be quantified, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 06:19 PM
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Man you could just say, its understandable that psychopaths act like psychopaths... that doesnt make it right. People with anti social tendencies are bad for all. Sure we can blame them. They are proactively abusing the weak spot in these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 06:13 PM
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do marxists actually care what the proletariat want or say or need Well, yes? Isnt the whole point of communism,"the gentle worker shall no longer suffer under the tyranny of the powerful" or the something? Although i agree, they are more like zealots than conniving wolves in sheeps clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 06:02 PM
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Well, while i dont know you, you said that, by the way you wrote your original comment, that you can afford not to quantify things. You can afford to be lazy and not do that because you assume based on your past experience that the gain from said effort wont be worth it. Because pros are good enough to not bother quantifying the cons. If you can afford that, good for you. But that is not the situation for most men. If you're the type of person that needs a detailed list on why you should get in …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:58 PM
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Exactly, feminists are wolves in sheeps clothing. Im under an impression that there was a misunderstanding here. Just promise them a valid system, deliver said promise and soon enough, the whole world would be feminist... unless a feminist world is actually bad for men. A metaphor: allies (women) can promise nazis (men) a good system... but it turns out that said system is actually bad for nazis (men). (the nazi men was just a metaphor, men arent nazis).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:50 PM
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Its easy not to quantify things when pros for you outweigh the cons by far. Well not all are as lucky as you are. When cons start to outweigh the pros, you start to question things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:44 PM
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Men would fuck a tree if it could talk. The saying includes all attraction. Meaning men like most women (not all, but most). I used to be a romantic too until i realized that women actually arent that romantic themselves. Sure they like romantic things happening to them, but they themselves arent romantic. Its funny, women are the supposed "emphatic" gender. Well heres a test for you. Can you emphasize with the situation men are in? Can you even begin to understand what does the realization that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:38 PM
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One thing that i never understood, if men are so powerful, why dont feminists just recruit them? Just promise them a valid system, deliver said promise and soon enough, the whole world would be feminist... unless a feminist world is actually bad for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:28 PM
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Read this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ee5qb2/why_do_quite_many_red_pillers_seem_incapable_to/fbqr171?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:23 PM
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This comment should be drilled into every persons head on the planet. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:22 PM
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Ask most red pill men if they'd rather be sweet kind and lovey with their girl or some detached psycho Chad Yea, women say they want one thing and then do the other. Actions speak louder than words.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:20 PM
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Apex fallacy. Men would fuck a tree if it could talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:18 PM
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How can a man love the opposite sex when he realizes he has been made by evolution to be an expendable tool, and that women will treat them as such? A man can love a woman for only as long as he is naive, after having his heart broken countless times by women who replaced him in a blink of an eye, the power imbalance becomes more and more obvious. In chess a pawn protects the king. What happens to the pawn then? And women sure love being protected. Who is worth more, the protected one, or the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:16 PM
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Fucking and death are two different things Sure, maybe for women. When men compete there are winners and losers. And losers dont get anything. For men its winners take all (women). And this is how nature envisioned it. Fuck that. Nature envision alot of bad things for women too that are no longer a fact of life thanks to technology and what not (built by men). So please, change what nature envisioned how women should behave relative to men. Stop treating men as expendable tools. Stop being hyper…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:08 PM
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Ok i made a poor choice of words: Man- queen and other pieces- has great ability to do many things but is still lesser than king. Woman- king- can do far less but is still more important than queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:02 PM
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Yes because evolution made men expendable. It is women's presence that motivates men, generally speaking No its the pain that results from your absence. This is why men who get married typically work harder Because they dont have a choice. You know how on some other forum (fds) women complain about "pick mees", well most men are pick mees. The fact that men approach women is a literal pick me situation. The reason men dont have a choice but to work harder is because a woman can just leave for an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 06:23 AM
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I would never take a woman against her will. And neither would any of my friends. Oh it definatly is evolution, and men are above it. Men are above their primitive nature, can women be above hypergamy? Married men are better off than single men This mixes cause and effect. Women choose to marry better off men. These men are not better off because they are married. They were just fine before marriage. two-thirds of divorces are initiated by women Because women are hypergamous, not because men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:42 AM
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I agree with everything but one thing. Yeah, I think guys get the raw end of the deal in the courtship ritual. That’s why I really need women to shut the fuck up about it. I think its good that we all talk about men getting the raw deal. Most men arent even aware of it. They just think in their heads "thats what a real man would do" xd and then end up being milked like clowns. You know how they say "there is a sucker born every minute", the less suckers around, the more grounded women will be. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:24 AM
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When i said the "a fate most men dont share" i ment, most men dont get approached by their first 3 gfs (or pretty much any gf). Womens attraction algorithm is dynamic. Men improving and working on themselves is no different than struggling in quicksand. As men improve the algorithm by which women select men also adapts so as to always exclude a certain % of men. I am sure i will find someone one day, but when i look at the system, that is the balance of power between men and women, as a whole, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:19 AM
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Sure men value women for being there, everything else is a plus Men just want a woman as a "prize", a "possession". That's why they "protect" their "own women" from foreign men but would happily rape the women of another tribe just to assert their dominance. This is literally what men always did historically and probably evolved that way. They view women as objects and value them for just being there. Well then, i guess, this qualifies for "toxic men" i guess. Tell me, why do women choose to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:10 AM
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A woman that is attracted to a man will stay with him regardless of the money. A woman that is with a man because of his money is trading her self for money, you know how such women are called, right? And the proof of money not mattering are deadbeat dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:03 AM
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Oh no, i have the urge, i just refuse to be a tool. No offense. Men were designed to be expendable by evolution. That is why men compete for women, while women just sit on their high horses. You know the whole "i like being protected" well what happens to the man doing the protecting... what happens to the pawn when he protects the king? And I guarantee you that wanting to split the bill on one of your first few dates is almost always a sign from the woman that she doesn’t want to fuck you. I ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:00 AM
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I used to believe in splitting the bill, but then I realized that women tend to bring more to the table than men. XD arent men the providers? Men proving themselves isnt because women bring things to the table, it is because evolution designed us as such that women are a reproductive bottleneck. You are literally born into your privilege I mean just look at any society in the world. All critical infrastructure is maintained by men as workers, and built by men as engineers. If you take this into …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:56 AM
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Its funny how women say "its natural that men compete for women", but when it comes to dying from childbirth or whatever... suddenly the tunes change.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:49 AM
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And if the only way to attract the woman is with money? You know how we call women who exchange "love" for money, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:47 AM
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Well congratulations, your life experience is most definitely above average. A fate most men dont share.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:44 AM
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Men like being doted and provided for too. Imagine this, this woman had been taken out by countless men before and they all had to foot the bill. But you... you are so special that she is willing to split (or in case of extra-crispy-special, might even pay for the whole thing) I think this would inflate anyones ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:41 AM
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Yes this is true, but what she said is also true. These 2 things arent mutually exclusive. One fact of nature is that evolution made men expendable. Women (such as this one) enjoyed male expendability since time immemorial. You know the hole "i like being protected" well what happens to the man doing the protecting... what happens to the pawn when he protects the king? It is important to be aware of truth, because only then can one have any hope of convincing the other side. Make no mistake, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:37 AM
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Now lets not be stupid, she is right and this is the problem. The only way we can solve the problem is by first admitting it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:29 AM
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you need to lessen your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:27 AM
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Evolutionary speaking yes. Its always women and children first meaning children>women>men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:25 AM
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The point here being that the lesser sacrifices itself for the greater. If a man sacrifices himself for another, wouldnt that other be greater?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:17 AM
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In chess you sacrifice a pawn (or any other figure) to save the queen (well king too but king isnt the one doing the protecting soo, yea).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:10 AM
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But if he views you as more precious than him, doesnt that make you superior? I mean who is superior, the protected or the one doing the protection?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:07 AM
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XD are you attracted to a man or not? If yes, money isnt an issue, if money is an issue then this is not attraction but a trade. You know what women trade affection for money, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:04 AM
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And if you want equality... that will have to go. One cant be equal to another, if the other is superior/inferior
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:02 AM
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Lets not play dumb. "first date" More like take him for everything hes got.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 10:12 PM
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You paid a woman to spend time with you that otherwise wouldn't look in your general direction. This is one of the most dehumanizing things i have ever read. The same goes for hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 10:07 PM
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But you make zero distinction between a life of sheer agony and a life of utter bliss Whoa, this was excilent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 09:49 PM
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In history a battle is lost, a country sacked and we hear of the mass raping of women. But we gloss over the complete obliteration of the male population YEA, and this is happening even today. In the news they say: 100 people dead. 10 were women and children (meaning 90 men died but that doesnt matter).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 09:38 PM
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Bad things happend throughout history... but good things did too. And they happened both to men and women. As bad as women were treated they were still valued, if for nothing else, then their bodies. Men were just killed (well some might call this mercy but i dont know) Yes shitholes exist today, take the feminist bullshit there so they might cancel each other out. Why do you think feminists are so pissed I am very happy you asked this. They are pissed because women, now that they are free, cant…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 09:37 PM
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Well yes, women have the power. They can sit and choose while men scramble like headless chickens in quicksand that is the modern dating. But the original question was, "do women like dad bods". I say they dont. However, every once in a while, a woman sees a man soo out of her league that she decides to move her ass and approach him. Its rare but i used it as an extreme example (since no other exists) of women chasing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 09:25 PM
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When people imply the use of manipulation, they mean to use it when truth doesnt achieve the goal. Its like, you know how women complain "oh but he promised me to take me to the moon and what not, and i believed him, im so stupid". That was manipulation. That was manipulation because if he admitted the truth, that his was just a regular dude, she would not even consider him... because women tend to date up. Women have the power, the fact that some men resort to manipulation is a consequence of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 09:21 PM
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You are mixing cause and effect. No man starts life by being porn addicted. One day in every mans life, he grows up and decides to approach a woman... and gets rejected. A thousand rejections later, he realises the pain is too great, and yet, porn is so close. Sooner or later the man starts to approach women less and less, which results getting rejected less, which results in less pain, while porn increases. In the end, porn cant replace a companion. That is why, regardless of porn, men want wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 09:17 PM
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Men are raised to believe women are "pure" and what not. That is why the "dont put women on a pedestal" exists. Men put women on a pedestal because they have instilled false beliefs around what women are. I hope you understood what i tried to say here. When, due to their false beliefs, these men start getting rejected, over and over again, they start getting needy (because the need for relationships isnt met, ofcourse you get desprate and when a need isnt met, you suffer). Sooner or later they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 09:07 PM
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This can be a bandaid for loneliness We dont need bandages that adress the symptoms. We need the cure for the root problem. The root problem being that evolution made men expendable. Men compete while women choose. Nowhere in evolution says equality exists... but we will make it so. These women are abusing a fundamental weak spot in all men, the fact that men are attracted to women more than women are attracted to men (on average). Tell me, do you think men would throw away money on random inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 09:01 PM
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Man you could just say, its understandable that psychopaths act like psychopaths... that doesnt make it right. People with anti social tendencies are bad for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 08:53 PM
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mate what the fuck are you doing ! While this is true, its far easier to criticize than to help. Tell me, what should men do? What they shouldn't is obvious. Not getting "food" is not an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 08:52 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 08:15 PM
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While this is true, this doesnt challenge the original claim The fact that men can only ever be attractive by being better than other men needs to change. And I so wish I was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 07:59 PM
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Working on your self as a way to attract women is pointless. In the end when everyone is marvelous, no one is. The algorithm by which women select men is dynamic. As men improve the algorithm adjusts so as to always exclude a certain % of men. In the eyes of women, when everyone is a rockstar-astronaut-president-of-the-world... no one is. The fact that men can only ever be attractive by being better than other men needs to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 07:48 PM
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There’s comments on here from guys basically saying they want an LTR to have sex on the reg. That’s not anymore cool than women using men for money. They are women out there that want a genuine relationship and get used all the time Now wait just a moment men dont use women for sex. Men and women enjoy sex together. Meanwhile, the knows he’s never gonna propose Well i dont think ill ever get married, even if I, by some act of god, manage to find a girl. I probably wont get married because laws a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 07:37 PM
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incels hate women No they dont. They all want one. I mean its in the name "involuntary celibate". An incel wants nothing more than to stop being an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 07:26 PM
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This is me, fuck my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 07:24 PM
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chunky girl XDDD i died xd they run after the 4 course gourmet meal from a restaurant with 5 Michelin stars Not really, sure men want that, but men will take "most meals". There is even a joke the "men would fuck a tree if it could talk" I mean look at me i consider myself average (well i have bad social skills and im 172cm but anyway), im 24 and not a single woman showed interest in me, ever. Either that or im blind to hints. I guess hope dies last.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 07:04 PM
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Holy shit it wasnt that bad rape slavery and forced breeding This sounds like it came straight out of bdsm porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 06:58 PM
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The dating market is like a meat market Damn this is true. At the end of the day, just follow the golden rule. Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. Don't resort to manipulation and social games to artificially increase your sense of power. Well i dont know anymore now. Im 24 years old. I never had a girlfriend. I think the closest interaction i had with women was a handshake xddd:( However i will most likely remain naive and behave in a good manner... against my better judgemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 06:56 PM
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To bad it hasn't found a way to get rid of the psychopathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 06:47 PM
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What which part? he said: but we never warn the boys about the pitfalls of simping and manipulation, their raised like lambs to the slaughter I think this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 06:44 PM
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Sure, but not right now. I mean you can respond to me when you want but i have to go somewhere now, i have an apointment. We can continue talking in a few hours, or maybe tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:49 PM
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Well that just means that this problem of imbalance of power between men and women existed for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:42 PM
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Well, yes. I think so
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:41 PM
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Maybe not as of a critical need as food, but a need non the less. Sure a man wont die from a lack of sex, but he will suffer, and greatly edit1 i mixed food and sex in the second sentance, i have corrected it now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:40 PM
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The person who made the comment you called "gaslighting" likely believes what they said is true as well. She claimed men have 0 experience with women. How in hell can this be true? Bullshit, I could use that same logic for any of your comments to say you made them in bad faith because they are so wildly off about women Well, we can discuss things you think i am wrong about. My arguments are made in good will. Most of my comments are quite long to make sure the point i try to get across is the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:39 PM
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women would be up shit creek without a paddle. i died laughing xddddddddddd Well yes i agree, but i dont want that either. I want equality. I also wish they wanted it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:33 PM
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Exactly, and in peacful times women need to stop rewarding people who want power. I mean people who want power should be the last ones to have it. You know the whole meme "strong men bring good times, good times make weak men, weak men bring hard times, hard times make strong men". Well we are in the "weak men bring hard times" phase. If nothing changes, men like me will die by the millions in some pointless war. When only the strong men remain, do you think they will give a damn about equality?…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:31 PM
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Women can just one day decide to have a family and flip-the-bird to the whole world. this is true The fact that women prefer such strong men over nerds who built the technology that maintains our society... isnt helping maintain the society. Women dont like nerds. Isnt this obvious. Infact loudmouths among men get far more attention. Men are toxic because women reward it. Isnt this a consequence of women being attracted to dark triad traits. Which group has higher standards for the other? One ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:11 PM
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if I find one I do not personally agree with in terms of my own experience, do you believe you are "gaslighting" me? Well i tend to bind my experiences with evolution and other facts of life. If you find out i have made a mistake (if you want to bother reading some other places i have commented), i would be happy to discuss it. you can plainly debate She plainly claimed men have 0 experience regarding women. And not only that, she also claimed everything men say is based on fear and insecurities…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 02:52 PM
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Because we have agency we can what change our goals are and change our behavior, if we want It is in the best interest of women that men have to prove themselves by producing things the society values… . Saying "Evolution did" removes all agency from men. Well it kinda does. Men dont like being used as tools. I mean i just noticed some woman complaining about men having stopped chasing women. Like imagine this. Imagine having such a big ego that you think you deserve being chased just for being …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 02:45 PM
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Its directed at men by a woman (presumably) She states that men talk about women in this sub is based of 0 pr minimal experience, and based rather on their own fears and insecurities This was an attempt to discredit their (mens) onions as if they were based on emotion rather than logic. Me seeing through this i claimed that the life experience men talk about here is lived and therefore measured so she cant just discredit them. From wiki: Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 02:40 PM
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Your "revised" comment so to speak still talks about being gaslighted. That is why it appears you are still taking it personally Why is that? cant i point out the wrong doings of others if i notice them? Just because i didnt talk about myself being gaslighted, doesnt mean i cant warn others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 02:32 PM
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Well of course they work more, they dont have a choice. So tell me who has the power. Women can just one day decide to have a family and flip-the-bird to the whole world. Men dont have such options.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 02:30 PM
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If you meet someone on the internet, Tinder or the like, you have chosen your battlefield... Well yes, except the battlefield is the whole planet earth. As carl sagan put it in his blue marble. Everyone ever lived was here or something. The thing is when you look at the larger picture that is the earth, suddenly women start winning in this battle by a landslide in comparison to men. (meaning women are far more reproductivly successful on average then men)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 02:28 PM
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I didnt know how else to verbalize this. Tell me, how should have i written the original statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 02:22 PM
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I am aware its not about me in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 02:18 PM
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Ok let me rephrase the original statement "Ones fears and insecurities are based on ones real life experience. And men/women were a part of that experience. In science observations beat theory, so dont try to gaslight me, or other men/women here please." I think you will take no issue with this now? we should all aim to try to be a little objective Oh trust me, i have spent such an insane amount of time combing my thoughts for logical fallacies and psychological defence mechanisms. If there was …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 02:11 PM
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In fact we can see a more extreme pattern in species with harems, such as gorillas. Males disproportionately benefit reproductively over females. Well if you are the alpha gorilla then you are in literal heaven. If you arent (which is the case of 99% of other men) then you die alone and miserable. Men who reproduce have twice the lifetime fitness of women who reproduce. Who benefits more here Well women, its obvious. They get the best of men while the rest gets discarded. You realize that the me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 02:05 PM
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what? isnt alibi a things police make for criminals or something? what does that have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:40 PM
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I dont understand, what does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:39 PM
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Im sorry, i am aware i came of aggressive ( i cant find an english word so i choose aggressive even if it doesnt quite fit). I just tried to point out that is wrong to profit off of other peoples misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:37 PM
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Not really, here is a thought experiment. Imagine an island with 2 men and 2 women. 1 man is perfect in every way and the other man is a loser in every way. What women are doesnt matter. What ends up happening is that the good male gets 2 women. So the ratio isnt 1:1 but 2:1 while the loser male dies alone. Infact Roy Baumeister says that Recentresearch using DNA analysis answered this question about two years ago. Today’s human population is descended fromtwice as many women as men. I thinkthis…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:35 PM
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check who's in charge of who Tell me why do men work harder jobs and longer hours? is it to impress women? if so who is in charge of who. (men need to be the provider.... hmmm.... for who do they provide?) who gets assaulted by who Man i wish i would be so sexy to be assaulted. Like imagine having this much value. who controls higher positions - ON AVERAGE On average men are plumbers, welders, construction workers, and other things that result in them dying, ending up a cripple, or just having a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:29 PM
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I havent. The balance of power is the same. Women milk helpless men, and war profiteers milk helpless citizens of a war torn country.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:19 PM
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but we never warn the boys about the pitfalls of simping and manipulation, their raised like lambs to the slaughter Holy shit good job with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:13 PM
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Are war profiteers wrong in abusing the market? Hmmm, making profit out of other peoples suffering? Can we even blame them for it? hmmmmmm. What do you think
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:09 PM
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Men never actually gave their power to women. Evolution did. Men are expendable women are not As psychologist Roy Baumeister put it: “What seems to have worked best for cultures is to play off the men against each other, competing for respect and other rewards that end up distributed very unequally.” Whereas women get rewarded for “being” men get rewarded for “doing” – “Men have to prove themselves by producing things the society values… That basic social insecurity of manhood is stressful for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:06 PM
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There is no gene selection here Oh there is, her genes were selected at the expense of his (since he died if the child wasnt his, and even if it was, the woman can choose to make more kids while he cant since he is dead) Why view it as all men being milked by women and not men who fail to mate being milked by men who mate THATS THE THING, women decide who among men are the ones who succeed. Like this is the whole problem of sexual selection, and it needs to go away. You see if women started to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:01 PM
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there are no female spies xd bruh Man has a very large weakpoint in regards to a woman, he can easily be seduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 12:41 PM
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A previous sentence: Recent research using DNA analysis answered this question about two years ago. Today’s human population is descended from twice as many women as men There are no guesses here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 12:33 PM
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If you die without reproducing then you're not being used by women at all from an evolutionary perspective. If you die protecting said woman and her offspring, you are being used. If said women and offspring arent even yours, then you are being mega-used. Hence this is not about the “battle of the sexes,” and in fact I think one unfortunate legacy of feminism has been the idea that men and women are basically enemies. I shall suggest, instead, that most often men and women have been partners, su…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 12:28 PM
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xd are you for real? Who do you think does these social studies. Psychologists do them (well among other sociologists) Evolution states that men are expendable tools that women use to meet ends. Besides, this is such an obvious claim that i dont even know how do you still not understand it. Heres a wiki article on male expendability
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 12:21 PM
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Here is a source: Baumeister, R.F. (2010). Is There Anything Good About Men? New York: Oxford University Press. Here is some other things he did https://psy.fsu.edu/faculty/baumeisterr/baumeister.dp.php Now since this article isnt on the internet and i cant bother looking for it anymore, i suggest reading the previous link. I am sorry, i am aware it has very poor formatting, but it is what it is ( I am not the on who made this).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 12:16 PM
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Being an orbiter is a voluntary label What, no it isnt. If a man was an orbiter, he stops being one as soon as he becomes aware that he is. Men are orbiters because they were brainwashed by upbringing to think that women like "personality" and what not. Since men honestly believe that, they try to exhibit a "nice guy personality" ( and i mean really nice, not the sarcastic nice internet users call it). When they realise it fails they star asking questions. And before you know it, they arent orbi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 12:11 PM
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What? You know the whole "men would fuck a tree if it could talk". Anyway people paying attention to egirls are just stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 12:07 PM
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Well i guess i cannot respond to this now as i would be biased. I think my looks are okay but my social skills are very bad. Anyway I do all the work there Thats the "rusty knife" i talked about. I agree people paying attention to "ethots" (nice word xd) are idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 12:05 PM
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Well i dont know you in particular, so i cant make a judgment, but ill give you a suggestion i give to almost everyone. If one tries to make an argument, for or against something, try to connect it to some underlying truth. For example in the case human relationships, evolution is a good base for most arguments. The reason I (i guess most men) dont believe individual (and there fore womens) experiences is because said experience is one sided. However if said experience can be proven to be connec…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:59 AM
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Men have been manning up since the beginning of time. The fact that things like this subreddit even exist is proof that "manning up" does not solve the underlying root of the problem, it just pushes it onto the next generation (hence we are discussing it). The underlying root being the carrot-on-a-stick metaphor in the original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:43 AM
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The metaphor does not quite hold. Since women prefer a minority of men, in this metaphor, only a minority of men have things like hunting gear. If the only thing you have is a rusty knife and pain to motivate you, you too would run after said deer on foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:39 AM
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Is this name calling? really?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:37 AM
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Here is a question for you. If you 2 broke up tomorrow, could you find another woman with said "dad-bod"? Men have stopped chasing women, because when women find a man attractive they chase him. So, my question to you is, would you be chased? This is a yes or no question. The same yes or no is the answer to the original question "do women like dad bods". (they dont, they tolerate them)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:36 AM
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The fact that you want men to chase women in the first place is what is wrong with the world. And men have stopped chasing because womens standards are dynamic. As soon as men improve, the standards also rise so a certain % of men will always be below the line. Its the ultimate carrot-on-a-stick and men are the biggest donkeys in the universe. Women need to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:32 AM
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What do you mean there are no statistics. Come on, it is in this very comment thread that they mentioned the Okcupid 80/20 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:28 AM
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Psychologist Roy Baumeister said this: throughout the entire history of the human race, maybe 80% of women but only 40% of men reproduced What do you think happened to the rest of men? They just died.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:26 AM
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because evolution cares for both genders. Thats some real next level care right here. throughout the entire history of the human race, maybe 80% of women but only 40% of men reproduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:24 AM
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Look i am aware of the term " blackpilled" but please stop using it. It is just pure cringe. If you are going to call me anything, call me analytical. Also skepticism needs a valid reason for doubt. Usually said reason is "lack of information" (since we can never truly know anything). But, come on, some things are more obvious than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:17 AM
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All men are aware of it, it is just grasping for the straws. I am aware that it is the same as quicksand, the more you struggle the faster you sink. But what are men supposed to do? Just sink? xd and anyway, the fact that the balance of power between men and women can be described as men being stuck in quicksand tells you all you need to know about everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:11 AM
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What, how can you be skeptical? In case there was a misunderstanding My original claim was: My fears and insecurities are based on my real life experience. And women were a part of that experience The only thing you could be skeptical is that "women were part of that experience". And assure you i have met women. Like xd what. Women are 50% of population. And in case it is the "real life experience" that you are skeptical about, i mean i have no reason to lie to strangers on the internet. If anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:08 AM
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Man, people do bad things. These people need to stop doing bad things. If said bad thing was done by a man, other men will most likely point it out to him. (well women will too if they want it) If said bad thing was done by a woman, men most likely wont point it out to them because men want to attract women. And when a conflict does appear between men and women, an army of whiteknights will come to save their damsel in distress. You are right about the original point that All men receive very si…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:03 AM
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How am i gaslighting you, i just said that My fears and insecurities are based on my real life experience. And women were a part of that experience Isnt this true?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 10:56 AM
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Can you blame a hungry person for running after food?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 10:53 AM
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Wait you are a guy? xd Women decide what genes get passed on. When men decide its called rape. I mean i am not excusing rape but i am just pointing out that one group decides what genes get passed while the other does not. And anyway thats not the point. If men are expected to be above their animalistic nature (eg rape and all the other bad things), women should be expected to be as well (meaning no more hypergamy and what not). I am all for equality, but are women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 10:52 AM
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because your anecdotes trump his statistics xd
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 10:46 AM
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It’s a truly vicious cycle and I think that no one group is specifically to blame. Everyone has areas they can improve upon XD come on, you were this close to making the conclusion of who has the power here. Ill help you. Out of the 2 groups, which group has the higher standard for the other (on average)? You even said it in this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 10:44 AM
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xd and i thought women get triggered when you blame the victim. Grow up. You think this complaining and victimhood gives you any brownie points to score some pussy?! Unlike you, and most men, i am no longer under influence of "pussy". I am aware of what evolution did to men, and i am also aware how women benefit from it. As psychologist Roy Baumeister put it: “What seems to have worked best for cultures is to play off the men against each other, competing for respect and other rewards that end u…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 10:40 AM
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"xd if you get robbed constantly its your fault" the robber. Never mind the police just not giving a damn. The police here being other women that were supposed to police other bad women. When a man does something stupid other men point it out to them. That is what white knights basically are. Now that i think about it, we need a female version of a white knight.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 10:36 AM
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My fears and insecurities are based on my real life experience. And women were a part of that experience. In science observations beat theory, so dont try to gaslight me, or other men here please. edit 1: "Ones fears and insecurities are based on ones real life experience. And men/women were a part of that experience. In science observations beat theory, so dont try to gaslight me, or other men/women here please."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 10:33 AM
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Do not blame the male orbiters. They are an unfortunate victim of the powershift that is the current balance of power between men and women. Even as the most starry eyed idealist that wants true equality, i am not stupid to ignore science. Evolution states that men are expendable tools that women use to meet ends. The fact that women see nothing wrong with the previous statement tells you all you need to know about the current state of things. The only difference between a rich guy and a poor gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 10:29 AM
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Most men arent in the position of power to demand anything. The balance of power today is clearly in the hands of women. Men compete while women choose. Even if your are the most starry eyed kid, nature never intended men and women to be equal. Women were always superior (on average to average man). Tell me, who is worth more. The one who is protected, or the one doing the protecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 10:24 AM
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Your comparison to unregulated capitalism is on point. I never thought about it like this. Yeah but we can't do what religion did again.Women are an easily manipulated homogeneous group ,they will never vote for that and they make up the majority of voters.Most men will not go for it because most men are thirsty AND because the top men find the whole situation advantageous. There is a way to solve this. People just need to stop thinking of evolution as some "sciency stuff" ,but as a real fact of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 09:57 AM
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2.Attraction can't be negotiated.No matter how much you tell a woman to be attracted to a dude,she won't be. While attraction cannot be negotiated, as an algorithm, we can play around it. I mean that is what religions did basically. The attraction algorithm of women basically states that they should look for high status men (high or higher than themselves) What religions did is they made women second class citizens. If all men have higher status than women, it is more probable that said women wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 10:02 PM
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What you can hope for is for there to not be as many incels as there are today. Well, this is a good start. The only way to make sure incels dont exist is to first acknowledge their existence. We cant fight a problem that we dont even know exists. My argument is that equality is good, and that it cannot exist while (among other things) incels exist. To solve it, I suggest pointing out the "biological system" we all live in. Sure people have accepted Darwinism. In nature males fight for women etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 09:43 PM
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Was it removed because it was incel content or because it's off topic? It was removed because the mods will it as such. Being off topic was just an excuse Yeah but purple pill debate is supposed to argue these points of view.Hence the name.Theoritically blackpill stuff is outside the scope of the sub. Wait isnt the "purple" in purplepilldebate a meme? Isnt the point of this sub to discuss the balance of power between men and women in regards of their results to relationships between men and wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 09:01 PM
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Well they can be good if they want to be good. The thing is they dont care what others think. A strong man is a perfect dictator. A dictator can be good but he can also be bad, and judging by human proclivity for greed (as evidenced by our politicians) i dont think strong men are good candidates for positions of power. Sure it used to be strong man had more muscles. In todays world it is about who has more guns. The only difference between a terrorist organization and a government is the side of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 08:53 PM
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Well then 1st amendment needs amending. The point of 1st amendment is to stop "those in power". It was worded as "government" because the only other thing people knew of back then were "monarchies" were all power was concentrated in the hands of the few. When people wrote the 1st amendment they feared that power would once again get concentrated in the hands of the few. Well not quite that happened. Now we have a sort of distributed hierachies of power. You see on the political compass you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 08:49 PM
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While i am aware of fetishes exist, equality needs responsibility meaning one cant be equal if he is subservient. I dont want to be a silverback to a monkey. I want my woman not to be a monkey in the first place. Well the way things are going about this does not look bright.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 08:37 PM
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what do you mean incels arent a part of that. redpill vs bluepill is basicly a point of view in regards to dating/relatiosnips/whatnot and in the end "balance of power" between men and women. Incels are just a group of men with no power to bargain. Plus while I agree with some of the stuff they say they are really bad at debating stuff and get easily pissy.Although to be fair you could say that for many here. Well in this case, let me be the voice of many. I think the sub rules are fine.If incel…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 08:28 PM
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wait i responded to a wrong comment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 08:24 PM
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My point is that incels shoudlnt be banned just for being incels. That is like banning black people for being black. Banning women from voting for being women and etc. That is why in the original post i asked Where does the freedom of speech end and censorship begins?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 08:23 PM
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Well, i can only hope that you will give me a chance despite your life experience telling you otherwise. I dont know how else to encourage you to allow this debate. Also while blackpill is a result of evolutionary psychology, not all is lost. You see being a "human" is not about what is natural. I mean look at our enviroment, we change enviroments so they wouldnt be natural, so they would fit our needs. Equality isnt natural. I mean just look at lions 1 male has a pack of females while the rest …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 08:20 PM
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Man purge week kinda sounds like a proper debate with no bs rules as long as people dont commit logical fallacies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 08:09 PM
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But thats the thing im talking about "foids" and such language In every conversation (this one probably included) there is an extremist bias. Meaning people with more extreme views are more likely to comment. That is why the "loud minority, silent majority" exists. Most incels dont even know they are incels
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 08:04 PM
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