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| 4 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology? | Question for BluePill | disposableboyfriend | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 02:00 PM |
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| 6 | How many of you still think the answer to all of your woes is changing women?All true. But nobody lives in a vacuum, separated from the influence of anybody else. As others in this thread have pointed out, you (the man) are one of, if not the biggest influence in your girlfriend's/wife's life. And as TRP teaches, all women have a predisposition to certain shitty behaviours. So if she cheats, you (the man) need to think about your role in this. Maybe you tolerated other shitty behaviour. Maybe you became unattractive. Whatever it was, you probably contributed somehow. And… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/20 03:28 AM |
| 2 | How many of you still think the answer to all of your woes is changing women?He is not saying that cheating is ok. He's saying that in some cases it is preventable. Not just the act, but the desire to do so itself. You try too hard to misunderstand. Try the other way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/20 02:57 AM |
| 5 | Evolutionary psychology's take on women's long term mate preferences.How long is "human history"? If you mean the roughly 5,000-year period, shortly after the invention of agriculture, during which we started to record past events, then yes, something like what you describe probably happened often. On the other hand, if you mean the roughly 100,000-300,000-years period during which anatomically modern humans have existed, with the mating instincts described by evolutionary psychology thought to have formed during this time or before, then no, what you describe pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 01:10 PM |
| 0 | Why is so much of history just trying to control the populations sexuality? Why do people care about the sex/degeneracy of other adults?How do we know what was tried before ‘human history’? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_Culture | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/20 02:11 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Current divorce laws in the US are generally fair.There was no way to scientifically verify paternity prior to DNA testing. You are grossly misinformed. There indeed were ways to disprove paternity before cheap DNA testing. To disprove paternity I mean to prove one is not the father -- exactly the kind of thing a man in family court might want do. A quick google search lead me to a nice Nature article that summarizes different ways of paternity testing: https://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/paternity-testing-blood-types-and-dna-374/ The maj… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 12:51 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Current divorce laws in the US are generally fair.You could disprove paternity before DNA tests. /u/NisKrickles gave you one example -- a mixed race baby in a same-race marriage. You brushed it off as random, but it's on point. I'll give you another -- blood types. Again, you can't prove someone if a father, but you can prove they are not. An O-type man cannot father AB-type children, for example. The point is that there existed cases where a man could disprove paternity without DNA tests. But when the law makes paternity an irrebuttable presum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/20 07:56 AM |
| 1 | If you had to implement social policies/programs to solve the male sexlessness problem ..that doesn't infringe on people rightsDecadence reset and the cycle begins anew. If you haven't read Sir John Glubb's essay The Fate of Empires, you might enjoy it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/19 06:59 PM |
| 0 | Some discussion about what many red-pillers refer to as “the wall”First, to nitpick a bit: "...it seems that a lot of you have a preference for younger women...". No, it's not a lot of us. It's all men everywhere. Now, to answer your questions: Yes. But I'm in my late 30's, so women 25-30 are in the age bracket I aim for. If I could have someone younger, I would, but it's not realistic. I won't go for over 30, at least not yet, though maybe when I am (much) older myself. Our whole culture is /r/The_Wall aimed at men. Everything from Homer Simpson and Family Gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/19 11:46 PM |
| 1 | [Serious Discussion for both genders] Guys, whether liberal, conservative, libertarian, or nonpolitical would you date a girl if she felt comfortable telling you she had an abortion? Women of all political stripes. Would you date a man who asked if you had an abortion? Explain!The caananites ... bronze bull You've confused two separate legends. One is the Brazen bull, which was an Ancient Greek torture device -- for adults! The other is an account of Carthaginian child sacrifice, which apparently did include "a bronze image of Cronus", but not a bull. It is debated whether they actually sacrificed children, and a lot of our knowledge about them comes from the Romans, who fought and won against them in the Punic Wars. The same Romans who themselves resorted to human sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/19 05:32 AM |
| 4 | Now that having children out of marriage is no longer certain doom for the child, does it make sense to be so tight-assed about "cheating"?You will undoubtedly be able to find outliers. But in such cases, exceptions do not disprove the general rule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/19 03:43 AM |
| 3 | Are double standards in dating ever unfair?One does not preclude the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/19 03:35 AM |
| 12 | Now that having children out of marriage is no longer certain doom for the child, does it make sense to be so tight-assed about "cheating"?Feelings about infidelity vary according to culture. I don't think that's true. Jealousy is a universal human trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/19 07:58 PM |
| 1 | The Wall is exaggerated and most older women have a higher SMV than most older menTENET! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/19 07:06 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: How to get rid of feelings of emptiness?Understand that you are a physical, biological being. Understand that what you feel (and think) is the result of chemical reactions, electric impulses, hormones, neurotransmitters, and all kinds of other stuff. Understand that you were not really meant (or evolved) to feel unhappy all the time, and if you are, that's a good indication that there's something wrong physically. I'm not a psychiatrist, but it sounds like you're depressed. Start with the main three things: sleep, diet, and exercise. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/19 06:40 AM |
| 3 | Off Topic Thread: Feminism (11 May 2019)You are comparing humans to tournament species. What's natural for lions and elephants is not necessarily natural for humans. The other "extreme" are pair-bonding species, where the males take of their young together with the females. Humans are somewhere in between tournament species and pair-bonding species. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/19 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Alyssa Milano called for a ‘sex strike’ to protest anti-abortion laws. It didn’t go over well.You're hopeless. I'm out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/19 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Alyssa Milano called for a ‘sex strike’ to protest anti-abortion laws. It didn’t go over well.I did read your original comment. After I told you Lysistrata was only a comedy, you said it's based on real events, and you were waiting on somebody else to find the source for you. You even linked to an article about sex strikes. Then you began diluting your original claim, from sex strikes, to influencing elections, to manipulation by women outside on Ancient Greece, to the point where your claim became general enough to be correct. You want to be a man going his own way, more power to ya. Bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/19 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Alyssa Milano called for a ‘sex strike’ to protest anti-abortion laws. It didn’t go over well.I claimed that it was based on the sort of thing women have been doing since time immemorial. No, you didn't. With every comment, you are backtracking on what you actually said. You started with claiming that women in Ancient Greece used a sex strike to stop a war (or wars). Then it became women in Ancient Greece using sex to influence elections. And then it became women in general and throughout history, not limited to Ancient Greece, using sex to get their way. You're arguing like many women t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/19 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Alyssa Milano called for a ‘sex strike’ to protest anti-abortion laws. It didn’t go over well.You lost the plot, man. You claimed Lysistrata was based on real events. It wasn't. Stop hamstering and admit that you were wrong, or at least, that your claim was unsubstantiated. Next, you're equating what happened in those stories to women using sex to gain the upper hand in relationships. Did you even read your own source? Those women went on sex strikes to stop people from dying. In four out of five stories (including the fictional Lysistrata), it was to stop war or violence. In the last on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/19 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Alyssa Milano called for a ‘sex strike’ to protest anti-abortion laws. It didn’t go over well.I did. You don't have any sources about sex strikes in Ancient Greece. Your source does mention other places and countries: the Iroquois tribe in 1600s, Liberia, Kenya, and Colombia. But you have no proof that sex strikes happened in Ancient Greece, not that Lysistrata was based on or inspired by real events. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/19 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Alyssa Milano called for a ‘sex strike’ to protest anti-abortion laws. It didn’t go over well.Based on the sort of thing that actually happened in Ancient Greece. Your own source states it was only a play, not real events. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/19 07:42 PM |
| 2 | Alyssa Milano called for a ‘sex strike’ to protest anti-abortion laws. It didn’t go over well.LOL, no. It's a comedy. The women of Athens and Sparta are going on a sex strike to stop the Peloponnesian War (and succeed). In reality, the war didn't stop until Athens was defeated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/19 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Alyssa Milano called for a ‘sex strike’ to protest anti-abortion laws. It didn’t go over well.I don't "care" in the sense that I am no concerned about this. I do find this amusing, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/19 05:44 PM |
| 4 | Alyssa Milano called for a ‘sex strike’ to protest anti-abortion laws. It didn’t go over well.I haven't read the actual play, but I read about it. In it, at least the women have some sort of a decent argument. Women have a short window of being young, pretty, and fertile, during which they have a chance to get married and have children (which is something, by the way, that modern feminists refuse to acknowledge). The men are fighting in the war during this time, thereby denying the women chances to get pregnant, and if the men die, their wives could end up alone for good. Also, in Lysist… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/19 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Are men conditioned by women and society to be slaves?It almost goes too far pro male Possibly, although I read it many years ago, and I don't remember all the details. What's amazing to me is that the book was published in 1971. This is before I was born, I don't know what the state of feminism and anti-feminism was like back then, but this is way before the manosphere or the men's rights movements made a single peep. Also, she must've been 25-26 years old when she wrote it. EDIT: By the way, she wrote two sequels. The last one was never translate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/19 03:03 AM |
| 1 | Are men conditioned by women and society to be slaves?Came here to say something similar. Link to a pdf of the book if you want to read it. It's only 106 pages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/19 02:44 AM |
| 1 | What does it mean when a woman likes "power?" Is it a real thing or just a social construct?Can you name a couple of societies where that isn't a "trope"? Because, as far as I know, this is nearly universal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/19 12:45 AM |
| 27 | The men who hate women, hate them because women can get away with a life style some men cannot. If they could have the same "advantanges" as women they would be doing the exact things they complain about.This whole trope of "poor women in the past were slaves to men" needs to die. You did a much better job of addressing OP's nonsense than I did. Thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 07:17 PM |
| 3 | The men who hate women, hate them because women can get away with a life style some men cannot. If they could have the same "advantanges" as women they would be doing the exact things they complain about.We don't hate women. Criticism, even using very foul language, is not the same thing as hate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 07:14 PM |
| 27 | The men who hate women, hate them because women can get away with a life style some men cannot. If they could have the same "advantanges" as women they would be doing the exact things they complain about.women are winning against the odds What odds? When women were SAHM'S, married young, had no rights and were completely [dependent] on men... When was that, exactly? Serious question, please answer. Give dates. When women married young, so did most men. When women did not have the right to vote, most men likewise did not have the right to vote. There was a rather brief period in history when most men had the right to vote, and no women did. Otherwise, it was the same. Women always had rights. The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Do men really care about the decline in sex?There isn't any (and I've brought this up before). See the second comment under. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 12:42 PM |
| 2 | Do men really care about the decline in sex?Those are all excellent observations. But you admit that human nature hasn't changed. Instead, our environment changed, and it drives our current behaviour. As for "digging themselves out", I'm not sure of that. It sounds a lot like saying that poor people could stop being poor if they worked harder. Some maybe could, but probably not most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 01:53 AM |
| 3 | Do men really care about the decline in sex?People are too lazy. People have always been lazy. Yet they had more sex in the past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Do men really care about the decline in sex?You are misinterpreting the result of that study. The results provide no data about anything beyond 12 months. Out of that part of the population that has not had sex in 12 months, some substantial number has not had it in 24, and a smaller proportion in 36, and so on. It seems that the researchers just did not bother to probe deeper than 12 months. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 08:58 PM |
| 0 | There is nothing wrong with the state of male - female relationsHonestly, this sounds like some kinda psedo-intellectual horseshit. Transhumanism, or whatever the hell you're talking about, is a long, long way away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 12:08 AM |
| 1 | There is nothing wrong with the state of male - female relationsThe population of the entire planet is not our culture or our civilization. Some are not even civilizations of any kind at all. Moreover, if the rest of the population of the entire planet had the same technologies and cultural norms as US, then likely they too would be reproducing below replacement levels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/19 02:36 PM |
| 0 | There is nothing wrong with the state of male - female relationsCan you say that in normal language? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/19 02:31 PM |
| 6 | There is nothing wrong with the state of male - female relations...but objectively, civilization is a fairly young phenomenon without any reason to cling to it. What do you propose instead? A hunter-and-gatherer lifestyle? Average life expectancy of 30 or so years? Shitting in the woods and wiping with leaves? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/19 03:24 AM |
| 13 | There is nothing wrong with the state of male - female relationsIf we all became mute, and just followed our biological instincts like animals, nature would take it's normal course. We no longer live in an environment that shaped our biological instincts. The instincts remain the same. The environment has changed, drastically, in innumerable ways, and continues to change. Most people are blind to the problem. If they get theirs, they do not care about the rest. To whatever extent there is discourse taking place about the problem, it happens under the theme o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/19 01:40 AM |
| 0 | why would any man marry any woman he already knows wont do sex things he wants?Of course you understand. We want a Madonna in the streets, and a whore (our, and only our whore) between the sheets. But, you already knew that. You can, perhaps rightly, criticize that it's not a workable or realistic desire, but you shouldn't pretend you don't understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/19 09:14 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Following your mission doesn't get you laid in the way Red Pillers believe it doesThey are very famous men, so they have every incentive to keep their sex lives as private as possible. In fact, the media frenzy about Bezos' affair and subsequent divorce is a good example of why they would want to do so. Besides, they are so rich that if they want to get laid, they can buy a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/19 12:27 AM |
| 10 | CMV: Following your mission doesn't get you laid in the way Red Pillers believe it doesMen like Jeff Bezos, Richard Branson, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg... They don't have women throwing themselves at them. How do you know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/19 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Male Hamstering About Age GapsHe looks younger than her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/19 05:49 AM |
| 11 | CMV: Women should do whatever they want and not listen to anything men say about how to get a man. It’s the only way to find a good true partner in life.[Then] you’ll get a partner who loves you for who you are... Nobody will love for who you are. They will love you for what you do for them. And if you're honest with yourself, you will realize you do the same. Human relationships are inherently transactional in nature. You scratch my back, I scratch yours. You do a favour for me, and I'll do a favour for you. Even as simple as, you ask me, as a friend, how I'm doing, and make me feel valued, and I'll do the same for you. There is some kind of ci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/19 03:20 PM |
| 1 | New here, as stated earlier. Sometimes I have a hard time point out circle-jerking if the idea being echoed coincides with my own. So my question is, is this sub a truly diverse platform to debate (in terms of the ratio of different pills)? if not, who do you think dominates this debating platform?radical feminism isnt about dating Nor about debating anything... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 04:27 PM |
| 6 | The infamous SMV graphThere was a post about that by /u/-TheGreasyPole- titled What science has to say about changes in the SMP for women (what RP calls “The Wall”). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 12:47 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men who care about "n-counts" and history are low status and insecureAwww... I was hoping for that topless one... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/19 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Are arranged marriages a viable option for some people or should they be avoided at all costs?All marriages ... become dead bedrooms eventually There's a world of difference between a dead bedroom at 70 vs. at 30 or 40, though... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 05:20 AM |
| 1 | Are arranged marriages a viable option for some people or should they be avoided at all costs?You didn't really answer my questions. Say I agree limerence sex is unsustainable. Are dead bedroom marriages sustainable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Are arranged marriages a viable option for some people or should they be avoided at all costs?Atlas, every time the topic of sex in marriage comes up, you use the phrase "marriage is not a lifelong sex part", or "sex porn party", or some variation of it. I don't think most people claim that it is. I don't think most men want to do ass-to-mouth or FMF threesomes. They just want to have sex with their wives. Some slowdown is understandable, due to age, children, and all kinds of stressors in life. But is it fair for the wife to unilaterally turn of all sex? Or reduce it to once per month o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 10:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Being wanted for youth is like being wanted for moneyOuch, man. I'm truly sorry. Longest I've gone was 6, and I'm pretty sure it messed me up. But that was precisely my point about that study. "No sex in last year" does not even begin to capture the magnitude of the problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 10:46 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Being wanted for youth is like being wanted for moneyOk, we're in agreement :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 06:08 AM |
| 9 | CMV: Being wanted for youth is like being wanted for moneyWell, it's unclear. It seems the researchers did not ask "when was the last time you had sex?" They only asked "have you had sex in the past year?" Some of those 28% have likely gone without sex for longer than a year. Maybe multiple years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 06:04 AM |
| 0 | Sex and entitlement part iiPretty much everything you said is common sense to me as well. I definitely feel entitled to sex in a relationship. Feminist can screech all they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 10:08 AM |
| 2 | Older married members (40+) - how many dead bedrooms do you see in your social circle?If married women started demanding daily sex... You are applying female sexuality to men. They are not the same. Which is a big part of the problem dead bedrooms happen. If men want to turn their wives on they should play hard to get. That's girl game. Boy game is to play easy to get for other women. Abundance mentality for him, and dread for her. Which do you think most men would prefer... First scenario is duty sex. Second scenario may be enough for some men, but I suspect not for most, and it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 04:27 AM |
| 2 | Older married members (40+) - how many dead bedrooms do you see in your social circle?The article you linked does not say exactly that. It says "Couples who had sex more than once a week didn’t report being any happier, and those who had sex less than once a week reported feeling less fulfilled." A different way to interpret it is that sex once a week is the bare minimum to feel happy. Scan the comments of men in this thread. Many would leave their wives at that frequency. Or, they adopted MRP and fixed it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 02:49 AM |
| 1 | Older married members (40+) - how many dead bedrooms do you see in your social circle?Thanks. I "stole" it from some bluepiller's comment. There was a discussion about just how much instincts drive our behaviour, the same old nature-vs-nurture debate, and someone exclaimed "we're not meat robots". Well, I think we are... BTW, my favourite of yours was "My preferred pronoun is Asshole" :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Older married members (40+) - how many dead bedrooms do you see in your social circle?I second that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 02:17 AM |
| 2 | Older married members (40+) - how many dead bedrooms do you see in your social circle?He means there's a difference between a decrease in sex frequency and complete cessation. "Slowed down" bedroom vs. "dead" bedroom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 02:16 AM |
| 4 | Older married members (40+) - how many dead bedrooms do you see in your social circle?You think those once per week situations offer "quality"?? It's usually just duty, maintenance sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 02:15 AM |
| 4 | Older married members (40+) - how many dead bedrooms do you see in your social circle?Kinda funny when men say "they want sex really bad, because biology and stuff", and it gets dismissed as "sex is not a need!!!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/19 07:08 PM |
| 2 | Older married members (40+) - how many dead bedrooms do you see in your social circle?I don't think anybody here claimed that sex lives were the exclusive topic of conversation among their friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/19 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Older married members (40+) - how many dead bedrooms do you see in your social circle?Who are these people? My guess would be, they are friends who can talk to each other like adults. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/19 06:51 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a need?Or, it is a need, and no matter how well you try to compensate, it often times does not work -- priest end up raping children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/19 04:20 AM |
| 2 | Is sex a need?Which may very well have to do with all kinds of other factors: they don't work, don't drink, don't smoke, don't stress out about all kinds of things regular people stress out about -- careers, family, etc., and they occasionally fast. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/19 03:21 AM |
| 1 | Is sex a need?...that has all kinds of consequences when not fulfilled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/19 02:58 AM |
| 2 | Is sex a need?Give source. EDIT: actually, scratch that. It does not matter. My point is that priests need sex too, just like regular people. Sometimes religious restraints work, but they often fail. That's evidence that sex is a need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/19 02:14 AM |
| 3 | Is sex a need?And I'm referring to the great number of times when it does not work as evidence that sex is indeed a need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/19 02:13 AM |
| 5 | Is sex a need?I think this is actually a relevant example. Religion tries to restrict human behaviour. Sometimes it works. Sometimes biology wins anyway, although in a rather twisted way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/19 10:14 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Partners that refuse to allow access to sex in a monogamous relationship are just as bad as a cheaterYeah, that's true :) There's a joke in Russian that goes like this: "Two Jews, three opinions." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/19 10:09 PM |
| 0 | What do you think gender relations will be like in 20 years from now?What's BRI? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/19 09:56 PM |
| 5 | Is sex a need?priests Is that why there's an epidemic of Catholic priests raping young boys? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/19 09:45 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Partners that refuse to allow access to sex in a monogamous relationship are just as bad as a cheaterA "contract" is another word for an agreement. And an agreement does not need to be express, it can be implied. "I agree to only have sex with you, and you agree to only have sex with me. We do that because we both (presumably, based on past actions) desire sex, because having sex with a third person would be emotionally hurtful to the other person in a relationship, and because sex is an inherently dangerous activity and having sex with others has the potential to expose the other person in the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/19 09:40 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Partners that refuse to allow access to sex in a monogamous relationship are just as bad as a cheaterI don't think it's that clear-cut. From wiki on Judaism and sexuality: However, there is another Torah commandment known as onah (Heb: עונה) which obligates a man to provide sexual intercourse to his wife on a regular basis, regardless of whether they have already had children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/19 09:30 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Partners that refuse to allow access to sex in a monogamous relationship are just as bad as a cheaterYou're debating with a child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/19 09:13 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a need?Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/19 06:42 PM |
| 4 | Men who come after women instead of other men are dangerous.You're saying men should fight other men instead of calling women out on their bullshit. Yeah, fuck that. Nobody is "coming for" women here. We are calling you out on your bullshit behaviour and beliefs. We are unable to do so "in the real life", so to speak, in person, because it is taboo. Because you'll literally cry, accuse us of all kinds of false things, ruin our reputations and careers, and cause idiot white knights to come to your rescue. But we can do it online. If you don't like it, the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/19 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: how did you feel when you first discovered Red Pill theory?I laid out how I understand the wall... You do not understand the wall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/19 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Should potential couples who are in early stage of dating communicate daily?showerthoughts dig was pretty funny True dat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/19 04:19 AM |
| 1 | Should potential couples who are in early stage of dating communicate daily?You gotta stop virtue signaling first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/19 04:12 AM |
| 6 | Should potential couples who are in early stage of dating communicate daily?OMFG, I find myself agreeing with you... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/19 04:11 AM |
| 1 | the masculinity that you glorify in some hypothetical caveman chad, or some family-provider-1940’s-coalmine-workhorse-Joe, is the same masculinity that drives incels to whineWhy was this removed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/19 11:50 AM |
| 2 | the masculinity that you glorify in some hypothetical caveman chad, or some family-provider-1940’s-coalmine-workhorse-Joe, is the same masculinity that drives incels to whineSo, OP, I am not entirely convinced by your argument, but there is something there. One thing that occurs to me is something that I think is very important to men, and not particularly important to women, and that is the concept of fairness. Fairness as a matter of principle. I am willing to have my own mind changed about it. But, here is how the situation seems to me. Women do not particularly care about fairness. They care that people around them get along, so they might invoke fairness to per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/19 10:24 AM |
| 1 | the masculinity that you glorify in some hypothetical caveman chad, or some family-provider-1940’s-coalmine-workhorse-Joe, is the same masculinity that drives incels to whineNo, that is not what I am saying either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/19 10:12 AM |
| 1 | the masculinity that you glorify in some hypothetical caveman chad, or some family-provider-1940’s-coalmine-workhorse-Joe, is the same masculinity that drives incels to whineThat is not what he is saying either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/19 10:01 AM |
| 1 | the masculinity that you glorify in some hypothetical caveman chad, or some family-provider-1940’s-coalmine-workhorse-Joe, is the same masculinity that drives incels to whineBy your definition of what masculinity is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/19 09:46 AM |
| 2 | the masculinity that you glorify in some hypothetical caveman chad, or some family-provider-1940’s-coalmine-workhorse-Joe, is the same masculinity that drives incels to whineHe is saying the male nature that drives some men to work hard and sacrifice for their wives and families is the exact same nature that drives other men to forego women as a sacrifice for the benefit of other men. You are twisting his argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/19 09:31 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: About the Cardi B situation and the amount of women on Twitter defending her behavior.I asked you how Trump's marriages benefited him, from a business point of view, not his children's. Nobody is playing dumb here. Not me, at least. So if you can, please be kind enough to answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/19 09:22 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: About the Cardi B situation and the amount of women on Twitter defending her behavior.It's interesting how things are so clear to you. You also, I hope, realize he got five children out of his marriages. But he got a lot of business out of it though... Such as? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/19 01:41 AM |
| 4 | What metric(s) can we point to that support Patriarchal Theory and which metric(s) can we look at in order to determine when the patriarchy has ended?Star Trek with a Mary Sue named Micheal there to out do men. I recently binge-watched both seasons of Star Trek Discovery and The Orville, and I have to say The Orville is a better "Trek". They are both trying to be "woke", but The Orville is far more subtle and less "in-your-face" about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 08:05 PM |
| 2 | What metric(s) can we point to that support Patriarchal Theory and which metric(s) can we look at in order to determine when the patriarchy has ended?It's the same old "not all feminists" counter-argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: About the Cardi B situation and the amount of women on Twitter defending her behavior.Are you saying he married two Eastern European models and one American actress for business and political reasons? And not because they were young and beautiful? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: About the Cardi B situation and the amount of women on Twitter defending her behavior.So all of that was just him in denial over hitting the wall. You know he is married to an actual supermodel, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 07:08 PM |
| 2 | Today I realized I am a female beta. A female "nice guy" We finish last too, apparently.I guess I interpreted what you said in terms of outcome vs. intentions. But yeah, it seems we are in agreement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Today I realized I am a female beta. A female "nice guy" We finish last too, apparently.Honestly, I'd even take somebody's "B-game" if I see a genuine effort to strive for something better. Everybody has bad days (or weeks, months, or even years). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 05:48 AM |
| 4 | Today I realized I am a female beta. A female "nice guy" We finish last too, apparently.See, most of the red-pilled men practice the red pill, or at least accept its teachings, precisely because they have been burned by women before. You apparently hate them with a passion for this, yet here you are, advocating the same approach that you attribute to them. Does that not cause you cognitive dissonance? When does the cycle end? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 04:29 AM |
| 19 | Today I realized I am a female beta. A female "nice guy" We finish last too, apparently.I am wondering what I am doing wrong? Am I too kind? Too loving? Picking the wrong people? Enforce your boundaries, and understand the concept of reciprocity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 03:48 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Have you ever "caught" your date using PUA techniques? Was it a turn off?No :) Sun in Pisces. Mercury in Aquarius (according to this online calculator, I don't know if it's correct). But I appreciate you trying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Have you ever "caught" your date using PUA techniques? Was it a turn off?Do me! Do me! :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 01:31 AM |
| 3 | Can the "women are wonderful effect" be explained by halo effect(for men) and in group bias(for women)?You already assume none exists before asking for it. Why should I waste my time looking and trying to change your mind? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/19 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Can the "women are wonderful effect" be explained by halo effect(for men) and in group bias(for women)?I fear we're gonna get banned... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/19 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Can the "women are wonderful effect" be explained by halo effect(for men) and in group bias(for women)?I saw that thread. She thinks they're all gay, and men who have sex with them are also all gay. Who cares. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/19 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Can the "women are wonderful effect" be explained by halo effect(for men) and in group bias(for women)?Das racis' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/19 01:37 AM |
| 2 | Can the "women are wonderful effect" be explained by halo effect(for men) and in group bias(for women)?Women are associated with less negative things because they do less negative things. Funny that. Now let's rephrase for race: White people are associated with less negative things because they do less negative things. Funny that. Agree or disagree? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/19 01:34 AM |
| 1 | Can the "women are wonderful effect" be explained by halo effect(for men) and in group bias(for women)?What about all the other things he listed (public shaming, slander, defamation, gaslighting)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/19 01:30 AM |
| 2 | Can the "women are wonderful effect" be explained by halo effect(for men) and in group bias(for women)?That men can do more damage through physical violence is not the same thing as men being more violent. For example, gay (male) couples have the lowest rates of domestic violence. Lesbian couples have the highest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/19 01:29 AM |
| 3 | Can the "women are wonderful effect" be explained by halo effect(for men) and in group bias(for women)?I think that's Josh Hartnett in 40 Days and 40 Nights. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/19 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Can the "women are wonderful effect" be explained by halo effect(for men) and in group bias(for women)?For the "women are wonderful(WoW) effect " to be an actual thing all women would have to benefit from it. Emphasis mine. Why "all"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/19 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Do you think we will see a shift in heterosexual males going for transwoman?...there's been records of trans people in the Roman Empire... I know of Heliogabalus. Were there others? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 09:45 PM |
| 5 | Do you think we will see a shift in heterosexual males going for transwoman?This is about the only real answer in this thread. Everybody else is hamstering about how much of a macho-macho man they are, or about how transwomen or men who have sex with them are totally gay. You actually offer some analysis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 09:36 PM |
| 5 | Do you think we will see a shift in heterosexual males going for transwoman?I think you're like a radical feminist who's imagining she could be raped at any moment... when if fact, rape is fairly uncommon, and nobody would touch her with a borrowed dick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 03:31 AM |
| 0 | Do you think we will see a shift in heterosexual males going for transwoman?I, too, would like to know what it is that you're seeing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 08:06 PM |
| 2 | Do you think we will see a shift in heterosexual males going for transwoman?You know it's not a new thing, right? Hormone replacement therapy and sexual resignment surgery are new, but men living like women is a very, very ancient thing in many unconnected cultures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 07:56 PM |
| 2 | Do you think we will see a shift in heterosexual males going for transwoman?It heavily depends on when they start transitioning. Many nowadays are starting as teenagers, if not sooner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 07:27 PM |
| 0 | [Advice] Perhaps too deep for this sub, but... what is the meaning of life? What brings you fulfillment?12 Levels of Dread. You might object that it's immoral. I think there's absolutely nothing immoral in steps 1-6, and even until 11 there's no cheating. And, I would argue that subjecting one's husband to near celibacy, lying about the reasons, and making him just through hoops for 6 years, is itself immoral. But, of course, it's up to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 08:09 AM |
| 13 | What works better to repel sex negative people- waiting or fucking on the first or second date?You are not clear about what you mean by "avoiding". If you don't want to get pumped and dumped, then don't put out until you get to know them better. If you don't mind getting pumped and dumped, but do not want to have sex with a person who cares about n-counts, then just follow the traditional blue pill advice: be yourself, communicate, and be honest. Oh, and if you just want to rant about guys who do care about n-counts, /r/TwoXChromosomes is that way ---> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: If you had the chance to be reborn as a woman, would you do it?Yes, but I'd be a lesbian. I'd find another pretty lesbian and we's scissor day and night while kissing and playing with each other tits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/19 02:30 AM |
| 1 | How valuable do you think Tinder/Hinge/Bumble's internal data is?No. But I've read many accounts of people doing that, and that they get flooded with "likes". Did you do it to see what male profiles look like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 10:11 AM |
| 3 | How valuable do you think Tinder/Hinge/Bumble's internal data is?1) Oh good God, no. And this is something you can test by creating a purposely bad Tider account, so that your ELO score becomes low, although you'll have to wait a few days for the noob-bost to pass, and for the score to stabilize. 2) Probably correct. But on the other hand, Tinder is kind of addictive. They might continue using it just out of curiosity. 3) Tinder started penalizing people for that a long time ago, so I think many or most people adapted. I've never used Hinge or Bumble, so I ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 10:04 AM |
| 2 | How valuable do you think Tinder/Hinge/Bumble's internal data is?Well, still no. It's been done, and the only thing it shows is that men are thirsty and women are picky. It will not tell you much about the ratio of men to women using the app, nor about which gender is more likely to continue using it after having already met someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 09:44 AM |
| 3 | How valuable do you think Tinder/Hinge/Bumble's internal data is?Men are polygamous, women are hypergamous. Men could be continuing to use OLD to search for more partners, while women could be continuing to use OLD to search for better partners. None of that tells us who uses it more after having already met someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 09:37 AM |
| 3 | How valuable do you think Tinder/Hinge/Bumble's internal data is?Source? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 09:33 AM |
| 3 | Claims that female mate selection favors evolutionarily superior men aren’t scientifically supported. What gives?There are peacocks with their huge tails. There are a number of theories how this came to be due to sexual selection. First, it could be demonstrator of fitness. "I'm so healthy I can grow this very big tail." The human equivalent could be "I'm so healthy I used the calories I ate in my childhood to grow tall, instead using them to fight off parasites and disease." Second is the "handicap" theory, just like in the birds /u/phillipsheadhammers brought up. "I'm fast enough and strong enough to avo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 08:08 AM |
| 1 | So what makes you a catch OR interesting??You've not answered the question :))) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 12:57 AM |
| 1 | How will UBI affect the dating scene?It's not agency that worries me. It's the unintended consequences. It's Big Daddy government taking Big Daddy steps to fix some problem, maybe even with the best intentions in mind, and overlooking a thousand little details. Some of these unintended consequences are actually quite predictable, like the adjustment of prices in response to increased supply of money. But many are quite hard to foresee. Someone brought up addicts blowing their $1000 per month of drugs and fueling the drug trade. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 06:40 AM |
| 2 | How will UBI affect the dating scene?My comment was a reaction to the comment above, about how the government will implement UBI to help everybody, and then fix the inevitable rise in prices (of rent and probably everything else) through magical levers. The phrase is one of The Great Lies. I knew four of them, but after commenting I also found a more extensive list here. One that is missing from that list goes like this: "Don't worry, everything will stay the same after the merger." I guess people misunderstood what I was trying to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 01:36 AM |
| 1 | Why doesn't TRP advocate a political solution for what they perceive as society's decline?Alright. Seems I need to read up on erotic plasticity. I may get back to you on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 10:08 PM |
| 0 | How will UBI affect the dating scene?We are from the government, and we are here to help! EDIT: oh no, a downvote! My day is ruined! We need some kind of UBU initiative. Universal Basic Upvote. Everybody gets a free upvote for each of their comments! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Why doesn't TRP advocate a political solution for what they perceive as society's decline?It's actually an exception which, if true, proves the general rule. The real question is why the females are more selective than males, if not in seahorses, then in many other species, and certainly in many if not all mammals, and most definitely in humans. The theory is that mating is fundamentally more expensive for females. One issue has to do with reproductive opportunity. We are all here to pass on our genes to the next generation. A single human male can impregnate a 100+ females in a year… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).But I thought women put on makeup for themselves! That's what so many of them say when this topic is brought up. :)) I kid, I kid. In any case, both genders compete. Women compete with other women for men, and men compete with other men for women. So what I said above is still true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 04:45 PM |
| 1 | Why doesn't TRP advocate a political solution for what they perceive as society's decline?I would not say it's not true. We just have two studies that say opposite things, and different theories in science is nothing unusual. I would, however, concede that it is possible that it's not true. One thing I noticed is that the article you linked is from 1994, and the one I linked is from 2001. I don't know if it's significant or not, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Why doesn't TRP advocate a political solution for what they perceive as society's decline?I found this with a quick search. It matches what I read elsewhere. Mating Systems and Sexual Selection in Male-Pregnant Pipefishes and Seahorses: Insights from Microsatellite-Based Studies of Maternity. In pipefishes and seahorses (family Syngnathidae), the males provide all postzygotic care of offspring by brooding embryos on their ventral surfaces. In some species, this phenomenon of male “egnancy” results in a reversal of the usual direction of sexual selection, such that females compete mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Why doesn't TRP advocate a political solution for what they perceive as society's decline?Seahorses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 02:18 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).What? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 09:15 PM |
| 3 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Chad has no reason to cooperate with the incel. Even if he does, the incel will defect at the first opportunity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 09:12 PM |
| 17 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).It's a nice idea. I wish men did that. But it's not going to happen. Men are in competition with each other for women. It's a prisoner's dilemma kind of a situation, except the payouts are distributed in such a way that it always pays off to defect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 09:07 PM |
| 1 | We know women don’t want to sex every man, okay so now what?Which country, if you don't mind me asking? Also, I'm curious, how do you know? What do you compare it against? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 08:40 PM |
| 2 | We know women don’t want to sex every man, okay so now what?Don't know. I live in US. Intuitively, I'd say it should make some difference. EDIT: if nothing else, it would at least give the undesirable men opportunity to have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 08:16 PM |
| 4 | We know women don’t want to sex every man, okay so now what?Should women offer up pity/transactional fucks and marriages? This is what women of yesteryear did. But TRPers don’t seem to appreciate that either. That's because the laws and society of the "yesteryear" forced both men and women to honour such contracts. At present, such contracts are easily voidable by women, and not so easily by men. As for solutions, one that comes to mind is outsourcing. Legalize prostitution. And I don't mean de-criminalize it for the prostitutes only. I mean legalize it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 08:10 PM |
| 3 | The sex revolution of my youth wasn’t so great. Maybe today’s celibacy is a sign of progressThat's funny. I looked it up -- yes he was. Half British and half Malaysian Chinese. Also, somewhere in your comment is an implied assumption that Obama did good things... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 07:45 PM |
| 2 | The contribution of women to the social declineOh, that's fine. Take your toys and go play in another sandbox. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 07:18 PM |
| 4 | The sex revolution of my youth wasn’t so great. Maybe today’s celibacy is a sign of progresswhite Right? It's gotta be white men. And then she goes on about Elliot Rodger. Because one idiot somehow speaks for thousands of other men. But ten thousand idiots who shout Aloha Snackbar before detonation never, ever represent a religion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 07:11 PM |
| 2 | The contribution of women to the social declineTo be honest, I don't really believe you. I am not calling you a liar, I just think we all instinctively do not like losing. So, when cornered, you deflected with "I don't care about winning arguments...". In any case, my point still stands. You did not address OP's question, nor the vast majority of what I said. You are stuck in your feminist dogma. Men do not exist in a vacuum. The problems of men will (and already do) affect women. If nothing else, maybe this will appeal to you and encourage … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 06:58 PM |
| 3 | The contribution of women to the social declineOP asked a specific question. Instead of answering it (or even attempting to), you tried to shift the burden back to OP. That's bullshit. This is a debate sub. If you are not here to debate (and do so in good faith) then GTFO. Go to TwoXChromosomes and shit on men with your feminist sisters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 06:10 PM |
| 7 | The contribution of women to the social declineSee, the one who wins the argument is not the one who presents the best evidence or argues with the most conviction. The one who wins the argument is the one who frames the issue. So, you want to frame the argument into this very narrow issue. Maybe they shouldn't. Feels wrong to do something you don't want to do, right? Or, maybe they should. After all, people have been doing that for thousands of years, and somehow society kept chugging along and even improving bit by bit. Why do you think you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 05:53 PM |
| 2 | The contribution of women to the social declineBy definition, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 05:20 PM |
| 0 | The contribution of women to the social declineIt's the other way. Cultures that constrain sexuality achieve power. Cultures that let it go disintegrate. I think that's the premise of Sex and Culture by J.D. Unwin, but I have not read it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 05:18 PM |
| 9 | The contribution of women to the social declineAnd sometimes more than two! So what? There are 330 million people involved in the American society. More if you include The West. Do you ever think you are so stuck on your feminist slogans, like "nobody is entitled to sex", that you cannot think about issues from any other perspective? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 05:13 PM |
| 9 | The contribution of women to the social declineYou do not need the right to vote to live. Also, by voting, you are exercising power over other people. Yet, people have fought wars over it. Women do not need the right to have abortions to live (except in a small number of cases where it is medically necessary). Also, there is another unborn person involved -- and if you do not like thinking about a fetus as a person, I hope you'll at least agree that there is something that is alive that is involved. Yet, we as a society, have (in my opinion,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Why women make “relationship material” guys wait, but not Chad.It's not about assuming. It's about trying to figure out what she wants based on her behaviour. Imagine you keep telling your friends about how much you want to visit Iceland. One day they all pitch in and buy you a ticket, but you say "No, I want to go at a different time of year." Maybe you really do want to go to Iceland as much as you claim, but your friends will think you're full of shit. Circumstances can be part of desire. You either desire or you don't. Circumstances can influence on whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 03:14 PM |
| 1 | (Discussion) Is the female equivalent to AFBB the difference between hot/beautiful?...the individual brain is so unique that almost no one has a discernibly male or female brain... We need to be clear about whether we are talking about individuals or whether we are talking about statistics collected from large groups of people. If the second, your point is not quite correct. The article states "[s]ome modest disparities have been reported: On average, for example, men tend to have a larger amygdala, a region associated with emotion." Also, "[t]he team found a few structural di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 03:12 PM |
| 10 | The contribution of women to the social declineBecause we want to have a stable society. For every man who is not having sex, there is a woman who is not having sex either (unless she is sharing the proverbial Chad, with all kinds of damage that this brings). For every man who is not married, there is a woman who is not married either. /u/Braziliancel phrased it perfectly with his comment about houses and homeless people. Your use of the word "entitled" is not appropriate. It's a very loaded term that just derails the whole discussion. It's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 01:03 PM |
| 0 | (Discussion) Is the female equivalent to AFBB the difference between hot/beautiful?What I get out of that study is that if you want to look for differences, you will find them, and if you want to look for similarities, you will find them, too. The second part is not at all surprising. We are members of the same species, after all, so of course we are going to be mostly similar. Brain structure alone may or may not be all that important for intelligence. It might be the case that "wiring" -- some differences on a much smaller scale, are more influential. But if structure is imp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 12:50 PM |
| 1 | Why women make “relationship material” guys wait, but not Chad.In addition to what others have said in their replies to this comment: what I want is someone who so attracted to me that she can't keep her hands to herself. I want animal-like desire. I want passion. Nobody really knows what goes on in another person's head. But we can all look at the other person's behaviour, and try to draw some conclusions from it. If a woman is consciously evaluating whether she wants to sleep with me, weighing the pros and cons, so to speak, it sounds like she is not real… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 11:44 AM |
| 1 | (Discussion) Is the female equivalent to AFBB the difference between hot/beautiful?Personally, I don't think EQ is a "thing". It feels like somebody patting a child on the head and saying "so what if you're not doing so well in school -- you are street-smart (whatever the fuck that is), you're a people person...". But I could be very wrong. Also, I think it's a mistake to attribute all the differences between men and women to the Y chromosome. I see that a lot on the red pill sub. There is a difference between having a gene in one's genome, and that gene being expressed. It's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 11:25 AM |
| 7 | Older Men-How much sex do you really need?You are damaging your brain, and probably other organs, by sleeping so little. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 10:30 AM |
| 1 | (Discussion) Is the female equivalent to AFBB the difference between hot/beautiful?A semi-serious reply: The Hot/Crazy Matrix. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 03:45 AM |
| 2 | (Discussion) Is the female equivalent to AFBB the difference between hot/beautiful?It's called the Madonna/whore dichotomy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 03:39 AM |
| -1 | (Discussion) Is the female equivalent to AFBB the difference between hot/beautiful?That's a very, very general statement that doesn't convey very much information. Males dominate the tail ends of the IQ bell curve (geniuses and idiots). Males dominate certain professions, particularly STEM -- and yes, females do dominate others. Only ~6% of Nobel Prize winners are female. Most CEOs are male. I could go on... If you cry "discrimination", I'll counter with Occam's Razor. If you bring up child birth, I would agree, it definitely gets in the way. "Capacity for intelligence" is a r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 03:38 AM |
| -1 | (Discussion) Is the female equivalent to AFBB the difference between hot/beautiful?Aren't they? :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 03:18 AM |
| 3 | Why do you care if people have double-standards for who they date vs marry?+1 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 06:40 PM |
| 1 | "I'm ready to settle down now and have kids" Male model Fabio, age SIXTYYou're arguing about something very different from OP's claim and my reply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 04:32 PM |
| 2 | "I'm ready to settle down now and have kids" Male model Fabio, age SIXTYWomen are also judged on their age much more. And age goes hand-in-hand with looks. But, believe as you like. I'm honestly tired of arguing this point. It feels like banging my head against a wall (pun intended). Feel free to make a CMV post if you want others to explain it to you. In any case, even if you are right, men can compensate for looks (and age) by other means, like money and status. Women cannot, or at least nowhere near as successfully. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 04:03 PM |
| 1 | To what extent can this "crisis of masculinity" (sexlessness, college drop out rates, etc) be solved my changing the material conditions of our society? Elaborations and further questioning in post.You do realize two main reasons men went to war in ancient times were to rape and plunder? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 03:26 AM |
| 2 | "I'm ready to settle down now and have kids" Male model Fabio, age SIXTYFabio didn't ride the carousel, he is the carousel. Perfect! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 03:13 AM |
| 3 | To what extent can this "crisis of masculinity" (sexlessness, college drop out rates, etc) be solved my changing the material conditions of our society? Elaborations and further questioning in post.Herbivore men. Population crash. Economic depression. Jihad. Just some possibilities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 01:12 AM |
| 10 | "I'm ready to settle down now and have kids" Male model Fabio, age SIXTYMen hit the wall and lose their chances too. CMV. Nobody (sane) is claiming otherwise. Instead, we (reds) are telling you two other, different things. First, that it happens to women at an earlier age than it happens to men. And second, that women are hit harder by it, because they are judged on their appearance by men more than men are judged on their appearance by women. Point one is amply illustrated by the fact that Fabio is fucking 70 years old. Point two is illustrated by your hamstering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 11:52 PM |
| 1 | If you're interested in getting married (or are already married), why?Can you explain in detail? (Not starting a debate -- I want to understand.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 03:06 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: the left is incapable of dealing with the current masculinity crisis.Got any links? I'm curious how that went. I guess I was too busy celebrating :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 02:21 AM |
| 1 | If you're interested in getting married (or are already married), why?You can't not get married and have things work out properly if you have kids. Why can't you just "live in sin", with kids? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 02:20 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: the left is incapable of dealing with the current masculinity crisis....and planning a potential change of direction for a more distant future. I don't see any hint of potential change of direction on the left. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 07:43 PM |
| 3 | Is there any truth to this at all?When you mess with your body's hormones, why do you expect it not to have any effect on your thought and feelings? Just because birth control is empowering for women, does not mean it's harmless. And also, just because an angry red pill or incel person wrote this, does not mean it's not true. I'd say it's plausible. I do not know anything about depo provera. However, there is something very related that I've read many times. Hormonal birth control tricks the woman's body into thinking it is preg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology?The tenants of bluepill are over at /r/TheBluePill. The tenets of bluepill are indeed hard to define. (And I'm sorry, I just could not resist making the joke...). My understanding (I am speaking for myself and not others -- others are welcome to give their understanding) is that BP is fundamentally things that are opposite of RP. It's not so much of a philosophy as it is a reaction. The actual sub is mostly satire. But as far as the beliefs that BPs hold, I think (again, only my opinion) it's mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology?natural history of ashkenai IQ This one? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 04:30 PM |
| 1 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology?We discuss all kinds of things here besides men having trouble with women. And RP means more than one thing. Yes, there is the /r/TheRedPill sub, which is about helping men be more successful with women. But there is also the Red Pill philosophy in general, which is about the inherent differences between men and women, and the causes and consequences of such differences. The discussions here involve both of those. So, I sincerely do not think my question was in bad faith. I feel like a lot of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 04:06 PM |
| 2 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology?Nationality is a social construct Nationality is basically tribalism on a large scale. And humans have always been tribal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 03:39 PM |
| 3 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology?As always, you avoid answering specific questions. EDIT: But I take great pride in triggering arrogant blowhards... Sounds like a fancy way of saying "I come here to troll". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology?Evolutionary psychology is not about struggling with women. RP may be. But not evo. psych. I am not actually telling anybody to do anything, although I can see how that can be inferred. But if I were to expressly tell BPs to read something, I would say "read this book that explains why and how men and women are different at a fundamental, biological level, and how these differences have all kinds of consequences. And if you read it, you will better understand why I hold the views that I do." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 03:32 PM |
| 3 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology?There's this desperate need among some so-called evopsych enthusiasts to pretend that social constructs are this meaningless veneer and we can all ignore them... I don't see that at all, to be honest. I see something that's the opposite of that. I see people opposed to evopsych claiming that social constructs are arbitrary. That the gender roles are driven purely by society, and it's completely random. That, if we could just somehow start over and roll the dice again, so to speak, social constru… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 03:22 PM |
| 1 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology?Why would I read others conclusions... Because you can learn about the process by which they arrived at those conclusions. Also, Sex At Dawn is not evolutionary psychology. It's dishonest drivel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 03:11 PM |
| 3 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology?First, the extent to which evolutionary psychology is a heavily-debated is vastly exaggerated. Second, I specifically said that one does not have to accept the ideas as truth, one just has to understand where they come from. It’s fun to think about the implications of various theories, but they should all still be approached with skepticism and taken with a grain of salt. Sure. But what I routinely see are responses like "menz and wimminz are diffrnt, LOLz". That is not scepticism. That's not ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 02:58 PM |
| 2 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology?Most blues know it well enough. That has not been my experience here. When offered explanations that have to do with biological differences between men and women, I routinely see BP's deride them in a way that shows they do not, in fact, understand them. Or, just ignore them. RP will always have a PR problem with OPs mentality. Could you clarify what you mean by that? Also, its really strange to hear RP discuss things and bring up honesty and good faith. I'm a strange person... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy is male projection — its actually men who are the hypergamous ones.Even if I accept your definition (which I do not), age is not the same thing as class. You cannot have it both ways. EDIT: since you added more stuff after my reply -- how in the world is Hypergamy not specifically a mating preference? EDIT2: do you see my point, though? If you define hypergamy as purely about jumping class, then jumping age is not hypergamy. If you accept the extended definition of hypergamy (class, money, status, position in the hierarchy, etc), then selecting for young age is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology?Not recently What about in the past? I consider myself purple do I need to move this to auto mod? The rules say "Discretionary exception is given to Purplepillers to top-level answer a Q4RP and Q4BP only when the Top-level responses are written from RP or BP point-of-view as though the Purplepiller was representing RP or BP." I'm not in charge here, but I'd really rather not have a graveyard of removed comments, so I hope you're ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy is male projection — its actually men who are the hypergamous ones.social science for the act or practice of a person marrying a spouse of higher caste or social status than themselves. That's irrelevant to the RP definition of hypergamy. You are cherry-picking phrases out of the article. It also says "women tending to prefer men who are rich, well-educated, ambitious, and attractive", and lots of other things. That's RP. Today most people marry their approximate social equals, and in much of the world hypergamy has decreased; And it continues with "However, ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 01:39 PM |
| 2 | Hypergamy is male projection — its actually men who are the hypergamous ones.Did you actually read the article, from start to finish? Or did you just read the first paragraph? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 11:03 AM |
| 1 | Hypergamy is male projection — its actually men who are the hypergamous ones.Well, if your goal is to understand what hypergamy is (and isn't), maybe you should. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 05:20 AM |
| 1 | Hypergamy is male projection — its actually men who are the hypergamous ones.Did you bother to read the wikipedia article? Also, quit downvoting me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 05:10 AM |
| 2 | Hypergamy is male projection — its actually men who are the hypergamous ones.Where did I say anything about the moral high ground? I think here: It is MEN who are being judgmental and disingenous about this issue. If I misunderstood you, I apologize. In any case, the core of your questions is "how this practice is any different". I think you received many good answers. What each sex considers the best is different. The reasons the best is the best are different. The means to get the best are different. The results are different. To give you an analogy, suppose somebody m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 03:03 AM |
| 0 | Hypergamy is male projection — its actually men who are the hypergamous ones.Again, but why? Everybody, men and women, want high social standing and more money. And yet, generally, only women "marry up". The wikipedia article on hypergamy actually touches on some of the actual reasons. To name a few: Cost of sperm vs cost of eggs. Cost of pregnancy. Differences in the length of window of reproductive opportunity. Genetic quality of the mate vs. amount of parental investment. Men and women are biologically different. We are constrained by our biology. Our choices are limi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 02:35 AM |
| 3 | Hypergamy is male projection — its actually men who are the hypergamous ones.No, that's not what you did. You claimed that since both men and women want "the best", both behaviours are hypergamy. They are not, for reasons given to you by many posters here (and me :) ). Now, mid-debate, you are changing this into a question of who has the moral high ground. And that's a perfectly fine question. We can discuss this, although I feel it should be a separate thread. But that's not what you started with. Having said that, if you want to understand the red pill perspective -- t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 02:26 AM |
| 3 | Hypergamy is male projection — its actually men who are the hypergamous ones.An ad hominem attack would be saying "you are a woman, and therefore incapable of rationality." That's not what's going on here. We are criticizing how you are conducting yourself in this particular debate, not who you are in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 02:19 AM |
| 0 | Hypergamy is male projection — its actually men who are the hypergamous ones.Yeah, buy why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 02:06 AM |
| 0 | Hypergamy is male projection — its actually men who are the hypergamous ones.It is not our made up definition. The concept of hypergamy existed long before the red pill, defined by social scientists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 01:38 AM |
| 2 | Hypergamy is male projection — its actually men who are the hypergamous ones.He's right. You are not here to debate. You're here to say "See, men are just as bad, and therefore red pill is nonsense". Yes, men are bad. But in very different ways from women. And the differences matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 01:22 AM |
| 4 | Hypergamy is male projection — its actually men who are the hypergamous ones.No, it's based on observations of the behaviour of people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergamy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 01:01 AM |
| 0 | Hypergamy is male projection — its actually men who are the hypergamous ones.Women tend to marry up and across the dominance hierarchy. Men tend to marry across and down the dominance hierarchy. If you want to point out that men can be very shallow in their mate selection, prioritizing, for example, such seemingly superficial things as good looks, go ahead, I'll agree with you. If you want to list all kinds of negative male traits in the form of AMALT, assuming your list is accurate, again, I'll agree with you. But what you are describing in your post is not hypergamy. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 12:59 AM |
| 2 | Men are afraid of women: An experiment.Perhaps. But the approach anxiety is still there. TheGreasyPole's point, and that PUA artist's point, were that approach anxiety is instinctive, and something that was shaped during the humans' time in the Ancestral Environment. That's why I thought my story was relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/19 09:51 PM |
| 3 | Men are afraid of women: An experiment.I've heard something very related to that. It was in a PUA video by some guy who wore hats and painted his fingernails black. I don't know who he is, and it's about the extend of my PUA knowledge... But what he said sounded interesting. Just like you said, in our ancestral environment, there were not many strange women. A person would spend most of their life with his or her tribe of 20-200 people. I assume he was talking about approaching a woman from one's own tribe. You still had to be carefu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/19 07:21 PM |
| 0 | Interesting dilemmaBut it's a very slippery and ambiguous slope. I think so is the issue of consent, at least in this case. Can a mentally-retarded person give consent? Where do you draw the line? At IQ 75? Is it now suddenly ok if their IQ is 76? I think in general, we as a society blew up the issue of consent out of proportion. Somehow, for thousands of years, people managed to have sex without worrying about it as much as some people do now. You could (and probably should) decide such things on a case-by-case b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/19 06:36 PM |
| 5 | Interesting dilemmaA husband is entitled to have sex with his wife. Not entitled in the sense that she cannot refuse. Entitled in the sense that it's a reasonable thing to expect in a marriage (looking at you and your cherry-picked definitions, /u/wekacuck). Absence of sex defeats the entire point of marriage. As far as this case goes, it's not decided. The judge basically said they need more facts. Everybody is angry at him because he dared to say something that's politically incorrect. Also, it looks like a bunc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/19 05:29 PM |
| 2 | The problem isn't the institution of marriage, it's the institution of monogamy.He is BB for a reason. His attractiveness is based more on his "bucks" than on his genes. If he invests his "bucks" into one woman, he has less to invest in other women, and that makes him less attractive to those other women. You are assuming that given the freedom, BB will be just as successful as AF at obtaining extramarital partners. That won't be the case at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 06:49 PM |
| 3 | The problem isn't the institution of marriage, it's the institution of monogamy.One example that I know of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyandry_in_Tibet Basically, there is very little arable land, and it is not possible to split it up among one's children, because the plots would end up being too small. The land is also hard to farm, so it takes the efforts of more than one man. The solution is to have several husbands, and the husbands tend to be brothers. The land stays in the family, and the children share at least 25% DNA of the non-father husband (compared to 50% … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 06:39 PM |
| 5 | The problem isn't the institution of marriage, it's the institution of monogamy.For the sake of clarity: Polygamy = many spouses. Polyandry = many husbands. Polygyny = many wives. You say "many religions and cultures support polyandry and polygamy". I am not aware of a single religion that supports polyandry. I am aware of two religions that support polygyny -- Islam and the Mormons. I am also aware of a handful of cultures that practice polyandry, a notable example being Tibet. Two very important details about such arrangements are that (1) they seem to be caused by the lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 06:26 PM |
| 5 | But Srs, What's Wrong With Getting Divorced?Wouldn't this be as easy as marrying a woman who makes the same amount or more as her partner? Yeah, man. Just stop by the local woman store and get one like that. Easy-peasy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 02:24 PM |
| 2 | Ladies, since makeup adds like 3 points to your attractiveness, should men have the right to embelish their looks as well?So since it's fine for women to do this, is it cool for men to follow suit? and Is all of this embelishing fair game? He is not asking if men have a legal right to wear make-up. What is is asking is closer to "would be socially acceptable?" or "do you think this is an acceptable thing to do according to the unwritten rules of the sexual marketplace?" The way that overweight women use 10-year old pictures in their dating profiles, and it irks the shit out of men, because these women are misrepres… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 11:15 AM |
| 1 | Ladies, since makeup adds like 3 points to your attractiveness, should men have the right to embelish their looks as well?I agree. I'm not arguing otherwise. But a large number of people here subscribe to the blank slate theory, in at least some form. So they can't admit that looking at a man in make-up makes them think "eww, fag". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 10:56 AM |
| 1 | Ladies, since makeup adds like 3 points to your attractiveness, should men have the right to embelish their looks as well?Right. When I was typing that, it honestly crossed my mind to add "except Atlas". No bullshit. Because you are not typical (and in a good way). But yeah, I expect most of them to lie, or at least to be ambiguous enough so that they can't be accused of having double standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 10:14 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Do you experience "chemistry"?In some ways her support and energy made it easier for me be a better version of myself Oh, God, yes! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 09:54 AM |
| 6 | Ladies, since makeup adds like 3 points to your attractiveness, should men have the right to embelish their looks as well?Are you honestly expecting women to say that it would not be ok? That would make them appear hypocritical and shallow. Unless this is one of those "gotcha" posts that come up frequently. Then I'm rather curious what the next step will be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 09:49 AM |
| 0 | Q4W Have you ever had a filler relationship?Dude if thats true then RedPill is just Hobbes' ideas applied to sex. Man (By man I mean humans) is by nature evil. That's not at all a bad way of formulating it! Human nature, while maybe not outright evil, is certainly ugly. And that goes for both men and women. The value of RP is not just that it claims female nature is ugly (or evil) -- it spells out exactly how that ugliness manifests itself. When Hobbes wrote about Man, I would argue he really meant males. His writing were political in nat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 09:21 AM |
| 3 | Q4W Have you ever had a filler relationship?I don't think you fully understand the implications of what I'm saying. And maybe I wasn't being very clear myself. What Orange_Paisley did is textbook hypergamy. And my point (and the red pill point) is that this is instinctive. This is built in. Yes, as people grow older they learn to control themselves better. But ask yourself, do you really have all your instincts under control? I sure as hell do not. In fact, I'm going to go as far as claiming that I do all kinds of things instinctively tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 09:05 PM |
| 5 | Q4W Have you ever had a filler relationship?It's also possible that the bad choices people make when they're young are driven by their instincts or natural predispositions, before they mature and learn to reign them in to match what is socially expected and acceptable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 05:35 PM |
| 1 | I dont think the Red Pill mindset will lead to successful dating for four main reasonPretty much. To again draw an analogy of all men being capable of rape. It does not mean a woman should be afraid of every single man at every moment in time. That would be paranoid. But not being alone, outside, at night, in a bad neighbourhood is a good idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 11:22 AM |
| 1 | Men have it better in the so called matriarchies than in patriarchal societies. What do you think of this?From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_at_Dawn#Positive_critiques: "...it is an intellectually myopic, ideologically driven, pseudo-scientific fraud. Written by people who don’t know diddly-squat about evolutionary biology, and—worse yet—who don’t know how much they don’t know..." I emphasize, this is from the "Positive critiques" portion of the article. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 11:18 AM |
| 3 | I dont think the Red Pill mindset will lead to successful dating for four main reason...if you there's a girl with an avoidant attachment style... If. The 80/20 rule makes guys insecure... You are proposing that men should ignore reality because it might make them feel bad. Most women don't even know what the 80/20 is a thing. Because they do not have to. They do not have to think, plan, or strategize to find a partner. Fundamentally, all they have to do is show up and look pretty. The men will come to them. Then they can just pick the one(s) they like the most. Going to the gym… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 06:07 AM |
| 1 | Men have it better in the so called matriarchies than in patriarchal societies. What do you think of this?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosuo#Role_of_men It looks like men do a lot of stuff, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/19 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Why are men shitted on when they date/prefer younger women?I regret that I have but one upvote to give you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/19 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Why are men shitted on when they date/prefer younger women?From en.wiktionary.org: Verb evangelize (third-person singular simple present evangelizes, present participle evangelizing, simple past and past participle evangelized) To tell people about (a particular branch of) Christianity, especially in order to convert them; to preach the gospel to. To preach any ideology to those who have not yet been converted to it. To be enthusiastic about something, and to attempt to share that enthusiasm with others; to promote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/19 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: About the Cardi B situation and the amount of women on Twitter defending her behavior.Asking one more time. Will you answer my two questions? Or, do you just not want to admit that you really should not have left out the word "let" from the Trump quote, because that word fundamentally changes the meaning of what he said? And that there is a world of difference between touching somebody inappropriately and drugging and robbing them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/19 04:36 PM |
| 2 | AskWomen: Men are not emotionless, careless predators like culture told us, they are just the contraryWhen men say they are simple, they mean they do not need as much as women to be happy. Feed us, fuck us, and be nice to us. And we will feel wanted, desires, loved, and worthy. And when men say they are not emotional like women, they mean that they are less likely to allow emotions to override their logical reasoning. None of that says men do not have feelings. Women have misconceptions about men, and somehow you managed to twist it into making it the men's fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/19 04:34 PM |
| 3 | AskWomen: Men are not emotionless, careless predators like culture told us, they are just the contraryI think those comments are stop on. I really do want to feel wanted, desired, loved, and worthy. Many of the other comments are fairly accurate too. I've had two girlfriend tell me something to the effect that guys do not have feelings. They would not take me seriously when I tried to explain that wasn't true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/19 03:05 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: About the Cardi B situation and the amount of women on Twitter defending her behavior.Very well. I missed that part. You are both making the same argument, just with the genders reversed. My argument was that in Trump's case, it was implied consent. So there is nothing to defend. You still have not answered my questions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/19 02:58 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: About the Cardi B situation and the amount of women on Twitter defending her behavior.OP's argument was the reverse of that. OP's argument was that if women (and the media, and apparently society in general) condemn sexual assault perpetrated by men, they should likewise condemn sexual assault perpetrated by women. And that they do not. You still have not answered any of my questions: (1) why did you leave out the word "let"? (2) Is touching somebody's privates without their consent not fundamentally different, in scale and kind, from drugging, robbing, and (potentially, that act… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/19 02:37 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: About the Cardi B situation and the amount of women on Twitter defending her behavior.I commented merely to point out that you left out the word "let" from Trump's quote, which gives the quote a completely different meaning. But we can certainly compare Trump's and Cardi B's quotes. Trump's quote seems to have two interpretations: (1) Women allowed him to touch their genitalia - this is my interpretation, or (2) Trump touched women's genitalia without their consent -- this seems to be your interpretation. Cardi B basically confessed to drugging, robbing, and raping men (the part … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/19 02:03 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: About the Cardi B situation and the amount of women on Twitter defending her behavior.We can say the same thing about you -- that you suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome, for example. It's not very productive, though. Are you not capable of debating with somebody you disagree with without resorting to ad hominem attacks? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/19 01:45 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: About the Cardi B situation and the amount of women on Twitter defending her behavior.This is not a "he said, she said" kind of a situation. This is a case of he acted, and she reacted (in an apparently positive manner). You are ignoring that Trump used the word "let" - a synonym for "to allow" or "to permit". You are also ignoring the concept of implied consent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/19 01:34 PM |
| 6 | Q4W: About the Cardi B situation and the amount of women on Twitter defending her behavior.Here is the relevant part of the transcript in full: Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Bush: Whatever you want. Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything. To paraphrase: when a man is rich and/or famous, women let him do anything,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/19 12:43 PM |
| 1 | Interesting point made on a popular RP comments section. Agree/disagree?Good for you, man. Ignore them. BTW, there's a whole community dedicated to this topic: /r/hapas. Why do women feel threatened by... I think they feel threatened by your girlfriend because she comes from a different culture that seems to treat men with more respect. Also, neoteny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/19 12:13 PM |
| 4 | Interesting point made on a popular RP comments section. Agree/disagree?First of all, stop beating your wife. And don't you even dare flip it back at me with righteous indignation and demand some kind of proof. Just stop being being an abusive douche-bag. Really, dude, just stop. Second, it's a pretty old idea (as far as ideas on the Internet go) that the reason feminists ally with Islam is because it's highly patriarchal whereas the West isn't, and that the feminist women are subconsciously missing it. Also, it's a very common criticism of feminism that it concerns… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/19 01:18 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about men giving women looks ratings?Guess I was wrong. I imagined the spread would be a lot narrower. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/19 03:48 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about men giving women looks ratings?TBH, I can't figure out how to read that graph. What I was trying to say (not very articulately) is that if you ask 1000 men to rate one woman, and plot the responses on a graph, where the x-axis is the rating (1-10) and the y-axis is the number of men who gave that particular rating, you will basically get a spike. If the spike is at 6, there will still be many 5's and 7's around it, and a few 4's and 8's, and maybe even a couple of 3's and 9's. So, it is both correct to say that "[one] guy's 4… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/19 03:18 PM |
| 5 | Q4All: How much do you agree or disagree with this quote from Esther Vilar's 'Manipulated Man'?This comment is 💩. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/19 08:41 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about men giving women looks ratings?It's not quite as arbitrary as that. One guy's 4 may be another guy's 5 or even 6, but there will not be as much spread as you are suggesting. Put another way, were you to poll 1000 guys and then plot their responses on a graph, you ought to see some kind of a bell-curve distribution, with the peak at the average rating, and with progressively fewer responses as you move farther away from the peak. Beauty is only partially "in the eye of the beholder". There are certain universal standards by wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/19 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Reminder that Jordan Peterson is not an ally of MRM or MGTOW or men in generalYou are never going to find somebody with whom you agree 100% of the time. And if you do, it's somewhat pointless to listen to them -- you can just talk to yourself. What makes Jordan Peterson awesome is that he draws his message from many disciplines. Just to name some of these: clinical psychology (he has decades of experience), human anatomy and neurobiology (things like, this part of the brain does such and such thing...), evolutionary psychology (we evolved such and such instincts, and we d… | /r/MGTOW | 29/03/19 01:09 AM |
| 1 | Male Birth Control Pill Passes Initial Round of 'Rigorous' Human Safety TestsFair enough. I still don't wan't to mess with my body's hormones, unless it's medically necessary. And I wound advise the same to others, men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/19 08:14 AM |
| 4 | (Discussion) Why do both sexes easily emulate traits they find attractive in the other sex, but struggle to display the traits the other actually find attractive?I think it's a marker for "I'm not an inherently interesting person, but if I put some pictures on my body, people will pay more attention to me". That, and gauge "earrings" and those bovine nose rings. Ugh... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/19 08:13 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Where are all these desperate post wall 30 year old women you constantly talk about?I think the problem is not with negotiating desire. I think the problem is with not realizing that better is the enemy of good enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/19 08:09 AM |
| 3 | Q4Men: Where are all these desperate post wall 30 year old women you constantly talk about?I'm in my 20s and love dating women in their 30s just as much as their 20s. They don't want to "date" you. They want you to "put a ring on it". Which you ain't gonna do. Men and women date in their own age bracket, and 20s girls want 20s men. Which kinda contradicts your claim above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/19 07:07 AM |
| 1 | Male Birth Control Pill Passes Initial Round of 'Rigorous' Human Safety TestsThere is RISUG (a.k.a. Vasalgel) currently in development for men. There are also a number of non-hormonal birth control methods already available for women. Now, be honest. Did you yourself think before posting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/19 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Male Birth Control Pill Passes Initial Round of 'Rigorous' Human Safety TestsOkay! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/19 11:58 AM |
| 1 | Male Birth Control Pill Passes Initial Round of 'Rigorous' Human Safety TestsAnother one is Germany. Although business is booming in Spain (because of France). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/19 11:22 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: let’s get on the same page with “alpha” and “beta.”There's two different buckets to generate attraction. You're contradicting yourself. You went from one bucket to two buckets. But the attraction generated feels the same for a woman. Well, crap. I'm at a crossroads here. On the one hand, I'm conversing with a fellow red-piller with (presumably) some insight about the theory. But on the other hand, you are asking me to take the word of a woman about what attracts women. Even if I was willing to learning about fishing from a fish and all that, I d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/19 11:15 AM |
| 1 | Why do people here tell that only looks matter in women?Ok, fair enough. Clothes can accentuate certain positive features and hide negative ones. But again, clothes won't transform a 1 into a 10 (or a 5 into a 9...). I'd say they can similarly add a point (I don't understand what you mean by multipliers). Now, speaking subjectively, I think I still would pay attention to a shitty dressed hot girl. I've found that what makes or breaks it for me is the face. Not tits, not ass, not body in general -- those are all negotiable to various extents. But if I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/19 10:56 AM |
| 1 | Why do people here tell that only looks matter in women?Sexy dressing, body language, behavior is a turn on. Yes, I acknowledge that. It's even more of a turn on when it's aimed at me, because being desired is a turn on. But it only works if the girl herself is presentable. ...you would not pay attention to a ... girl even if she's hot when naked. You need to rethink what you wrote there. Because yes, I would most certainly pay attention to a hot naked girl. I probably would have trouble looking away. And I think so would you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/19 10:20 AM |
| 4 | Discussion: let’s get on the same page with “alpha” and “beta.”No, they are actually two separate "buckets". The AF bucket and the BB bucket. It's good if you can dip into both. But the AF bucket alone is sufficient to generate raw sexual desire, and the BB bucket alone is not. As to what "women are most attracted to", I think it's debatable that it's "high betas". Think of thugs, gang members, and prison inmates, and think of some women who completely lose their heads and do all kinds of crazy things for such men. I don't know of any stories of women compl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/19 10:15 AM |
| 6 | Why do people here tell that only looks matter in women?I don't think they're saying only looks matter (at least I'm not saying that). Rather, that looks matter a lot. Or, another way of saying it, looks matter a lot more for men than they do for women. Or, they are saying this to emphasize that other things, things to which women attach a lot of importance and mistakenly believe that men do the same, such as career accomplishments or monetary savings, are not all that significant from the men's point of view. A few threads ago /u/ThisIsJustATr1bute … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/19 10:03 AM |
| 4 | Discussion: let’s get on the same page with “alpha” and “beta.”The idiots in RP keep changing the definition of "alpha" to "men who lead" and "men who they respect". Not cool. RP is about sexual dynamics, not male to male interactions. Women oftentimes "outsource" the determination of who is alpha and who is beta to the men themselves. The men who lead other men, and the men who are respected by other men, are, by definition, in possession of some alpha traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/19 07:00 AM |
| 1 | Male Birth Control Pill Passes Initial Round of 'Rigorous' Human Safety TestsThank you. This explains things... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/19 03:15 AM |
| 1 | Male Birth Control Pill Passes Initial Round of 'Rigorous' Human Safety TestsAlso it's literally illegal to make condoms over a certain size. What? Can you give more details about this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/19 02:32 AM |
| 14 | Male Birth Control Pill Passes Initial Round of 'Rigorous' Human Safety TestsDid I say that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/19 01:19 AM |
| 25 | Male Birth Control Pill Passes Initial Round of 'Rigorous' Human Safety Tests...this drug managed to safely reduce hormones... ...And I'm not touching this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/19 12:18 AM |
| 1 | The whole "men are more valuable with age and women are less valuable with age" mythVirginia Madsen became kinda... thick. She aged gracefully. But she still aged. I'm personally amazed by Michelle Malkin. She's 48. Looks 25. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/19 09:15 PM |
| 1 | The whole "men are more valuable with age and women are less valuable with age" mythWhen I said "mate" I meant a life partner with whom you have children. I would consider more aspects than pure physical attractiveness important to "potential mate". Yes, you would, because you are a women. Because when choosing a potential mate, you are thinking about "how well will this man take care of me and my children?" I would, too, but I would attach less importance to them than you. Other things being equal, 20 is better than 30. Other things not quite being equal, youth and beauty stil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/19 09:11 PM |
| 0 | The whole "men are more valuable with age and women are less valuable with age" mythYou keep editing your reply, and it's kinda hard to keep track. I think in an earlier version you pointed out that I did not answer your question about George Clooney and men's midlife crisis ("are you saying that male delusions of being George Clooney in the middle of their mid life crisis is simply a distraction from the inevitability of mortality?"). I'll take you seriously, even though I shouldn't, because your replies are full of snide remarks. But, yeah, it's possible. I don't really know.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/19 04:57 AM |
| 1 | The whole "men are more valuable with age and women are less valuable with age" mythDo elaborate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/19 04:00 AM |
| 1 | The whole "men are more valuable with age and women are less valuable with age" mythI'm saying it's nonsense to say "not everybody is afraid of ageing." Because everybody is. It makes all of us uncomfortable. The best we can do is just shrug our shoulders and try not to think about it. Which is why mentioning The Wall is kind of a double punch: (1) men don't like you as much anymore, and (2) by the way, death is nearer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/19 03:55 AM |
| 3 | The whole "men are more valuable with age and women are less valuable with age" mythLooks are getting your foot [in] the door. I think that's a pretty good way of formulating it. Looks are what attracts us. Other things are what keeps us. And BTW, nobody is saying you have to be 10/10 beautiful. Or even super pretty. Just be cute and feminine, and you should get plenty of male attention. seducing I'll agree with you that behavior plays a large part, too. But you won't be as successful at "seducing" men at 40 as you were at 20. You'll have less to work with, and the men will be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/19 03:48 AM |
| 0 | The whole "men are more valuable with age and women are less valuable with age" mythDeath isn’t scary. Yes it is. But don't think about it too much, or you'll feel bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/19 03:36 AM |
| 0 | The whole "men are more valuable with age and women are less valuable with age" mythNext you'll tell me that not everybody has an instinctive fear of heights, or an instinctive fear of snakes. No. Everybody is afraid of dying. It's an instinct. It's built-in. And ageing is basically dying in slow motion. It makes everybody uncomfortable. Unless you meant something else. Maybe you meant that some people learned to distract themselves with school, work, family, responsibilities, sports, TV shows, or whatever, just so their minds are not ruminating on the inevitable and they are n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/19 03:32 AM |
| 3 | The whole "men are more valuable with age and women are less valuable with age" mythI am not trying to threaten you. I'm trying to explain why you have such a negative reaction to the concept of The Wall. Of course you understand you will age, and your looks will decline. What I think you do not understand, or cannot accept, is how much looks matter to men. From your perspective, what I and other men are saying makes us shallow assholes. We are shallow because we judge books by their covers. And we are assholes because we have the temerity to laugh about it. You can't accept it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/19 03:07 AM |
| 8 | The whole "men are more valuable with age and women are less valuable with age" mythWhat /u/azngirl7689 is saying is kind of like this: "These redpill guys are being assholes by laughing at women for ageing. Therefore, you, the OP, should just ignore the whole thing." She is right in the first part. Some guys do laugh at this. There is a certain sense of schadenfreude there. In fact, after commenting in this thread, I remembered that there's a subreddit called /r/The_Wall, so I went there, and had a few chuckles myself. I can simultaneously understand how much the situation suc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/19 02:25 AM |
| 7 | Q4W: Why shouldn't I be suspicious and mistrustful of women?You should not trust anybody until they prove themselves to be trustworthy. Then you should trust but verify. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/19 12:26 AM |
| 9 | The whole "men are more valuable with age and women are less valuable with age" mythYep. If OP hears people talk about The Wall, she should just close her ears and go "La-La-La-La-La, I cant hear you, La-La-La-La-La..." because then it won't be true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/19 12:20 AM |
| 1 | The whole "men are more valuable with age and women are less valuable with age" myth...what about women who get great work positions with age? Are they valuable? I'm a future female physician... If you mean valuable as a physician, then sure, age, and with it, experience, make you more valuable in that regard. If you mean valuable as a potential mate, then no, age decreases your value. The older you are, the less pretty and fertile you are. ...why do only men get more valuable under this theory when they acquire financial independence and stability? Because evolution shaped men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/19 12:15 AM |
| 3 | Off Topic Thread: New Mods Nomination Thread (23 March 2019)You should get some t-shirts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/19 07:37 AM |
| 4 | Painting a picture of my LTRs past. Do I ask?OP, this is where you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/19 08:27 PM |
| 16 | Why are so many women having trouble with the Dating scene?So women having trouble dating is the men's fault. Because the men don't wax their eyebrows. Yes, I'm making what you said sound more ridiculous than it is. But not by much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/19 05:11 AM |
| 2 | Promiscuity is the same in both women and menI re-read the post one more time. I think it's fine, in the sense that I understand what OP is trying to say. His language did not inhibit my understanding. I agree that it can be rude, so yeah, I'm not arguing against that. Just not in this case. Maybe I just have a higher threshold for that kind of thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/19 03:30 AM |
| 1 | Promiscuity is the same in both women and menCant you see how rude it is? It's not rude. OP's argument is very weak. If there's any rudeness in his post, it's there, because he did not put a lot of thought in it. But the language itself is perfectly understandable. I can certainly imagine a case where someone posts complete gibberish. But this is not such a case. I would never inflict broken language on people trying to discuss complex ideas. To be fair, you do it every time you "typ elike htis", which you do quite a lot. And the word for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/19 02:49 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men who complain/bitch online about women don't get much sympathy from women because it's an unattractive trait.I'm talking from MY experience with American culture. If you're not American, it's HIGHLY relevant and is going to cause you to have a different persepctive than me. Isn't it, Einstein? Except we are not talking about perspectives. We are trying to establish facts. The proposition is that humans care more about women than about men. That is true for all humans, from any country. Why don't you go crawl back in your hole and stop butting into a conversation unless you learn how to keep up. First, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/19 01:21 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Men who complain/bitch online about women don't get much sympathy from women because it's an unattractive trait.Whether he is or isn't does not make what he says untrue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/19 12:50 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Men who complain/bitch online about women don't get much sympathy from women because it's an unattractive trait.And when was the last time you saw this happen IRL? I do that myself. I give up my seat on public transport to women and elderly people. Doesn’t change the fact that it’s women — not men — who do the vast majority of the work on behalf of homeless men... Whatever they are doing, it seems to be a drop in the bucket. I’m not interested in debating right wing propoganda... Facts, however uncomfortable, are not propaganda. And if black people don’t pay taxes, then government owes... People who pay t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/19 12:48 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men who complain/bitch online about women don't get much sympathy from women because it's an unattractive trait.Men are protective of women on an instinctive level. Women are the reproductive bottleneck of our species. Those who did not possess this protective instinct died out eons ago. The manifestation of this protective instinct ranges from giving women priority seating on lifeboats to giving up seats on public transportation. From opening doors for women to intervening in domestic abuse on behalf of women. The two examples you gave above about homeless shelters and BLM are horrible examples. There ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 10:44 PM |
| 19 | CMV: Men who complain/bitch online about women don't get much sympathy from women because it's an unattractive trait.Men do not get sympathy from women because nobody cares about men. Men are the disposable sex. Women care about their men. Their sons, fathers, husbands, and brothers (in that order, I think). They do not care about other men. Men might care about their friends. They don't care about strangers. It's not that women don't give men sympathy because complaining is unattractive. Men don't get sympathy period, whether they complain or not. EDIT: also, men are not complaining online because feminism em… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Do you understand the female strategy of delaying sex, as part of a larger strategy for the objective of securing love and commitment from a man?You ignored pretty much everything I've said. Oh well.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 05:30 PM |
| 2 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthecho chamber if you don't take a step back. Except we are here, on a debate sub, to engage in debates and see an alternative point of view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 12:15 PM |
| 1 | Off-Topic Thread: What does PPD look like ? (Free attractiveness boost edition) March 09 2019Here's what you do: You take a photo of young Madonna or Frances Bean Cobain, and you put it through one of those phone apps that show you what you would look like when you are older. Add 30 years or whatever if it's an option. Then post here for shits and giggles. I'd do it myself, but I have some respect for Atlas (although apparently not enough not to suggest this...). That, and I'm very lazy. Also, I think the tin plate/etched glass prints you mention are called daguerreotypes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 07:57 AM |
| 1 | Do you understand the female strategy of delaying sex, as part of a larger strategy for the objective of securing love and commitment from a man?Part of my point is that it's not just "some men on here". It's most men everywhere. The difference is that men here are well-versed in the subject matter and the terms we use to discuss it. So they can actually say, with words, to others and to themselves, what they think. The men not from "here" might not be able to verbalize it, but they certainly feel the same way. And the "here" is not just limited to this sub. The manosphere in general is growing, so more and more men are learning to put t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 07:41 AM |
| 2 | Do you understand the female strategy of delaying sex, as part of a larger strategy for the objective of securing love and commitment from a man?Yes, I understand the strategy. I think you don't understand the reason why (at least in some, and possibly many cases) this strategy causes men to feel resentment. We live in a post-sexual-liberation society. Lack of virginity and multiple sex partners are generally not a barrier to marriage for most women. Such things are generally socially acceptable, and not a source of shame for women -- not in every case, but in general, and certainly much, much less than 50+ years ago. If a man is desirab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 07:18 AM |
| 4 | The Gender Gap in Criminal SentencingAnd you're all wrong -- you and /u/Eastuss and the OP. Prisons in US are not about rehabilitation. We pay lip service to that idea, and it's implied in the name -- the Department of Corrections -- as though prisons fix people. If we really wanted the name to be accurate, we would call it the Department of Making An Example Out of Some to Scare the Crap Out of Others to Make Them Obey The Law. But that's too long and too depressing. EDIT: ok, scratch that. You are arguing about rehabilitation vs … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Are men more "all or nothing" than women?There can be more than one hierarchy within a single group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Are men more "all or nothing" than women?There is more than one hierarchy (unless this is a Dating my Daughter kind of a game...). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Are men more "all or nothing" than women?Ahh, sorry. I guess I misunderstood what you were trying to say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 09:41 AM |
| 1 | Are men more "all or nothing" than women?My point still stands. C-sections are very common. In fact, according to these graphs from the CDC, somewhere between 1-in-5 and 1-in-3 birth are c-sections, depending on the year. This means that a great many women are willing to take the risk. Also, when you say "you aren't in a good place to make snap judgments mid labor", I think you may be making my point for me. When you and your baby are safe, you make one set of decisions. But when you and your baby are in danger, your learned rationalit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 09:37 AM |
| 5 | Are men more "all or nothing" than women?This reminds me of a joke: A cruise-ship sinks, and the only people to make it out alive in a lifeboat are 12 men and one female passenger. They land on an uninhabited island. After one week, the woman can't take it anymore, and she kills herself. One week later, then men hold a meeting, and decide that things just cannot go on anymore the way they have been going on. They decide to bury the woman. One more week later, the men hold another meeting. They decide that things definitely cannot go on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 09:04 AM |
| 4 | Are men more "all or nothing" than women?Maybe. Or, maybe, there is a world of difference between hypothesizing about what you would do in a given situation, and actually being in such a situation, and your decisions will be different. Also, maybe, when you are pregnant, or about to give birth, your body (and brain) will be filled with all kinds of different hormones and other chemicals than it is now, and you will, in effect, be a different person, and make different decisions. EDIT: Also, you are a sample of one. C-sections are fairl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 07:54 AM |
| 7 | Are men more "all or nothing" than women?Ask your wife if she would give up her life to save your baby's life. She would almost certainly say yes. And know she would mean it. She might not outright give up her life (because it's a very difficult thing to do), but she will most definitely be willing to subject it to a lot of risk. The male sex drive is comparable to the female drive to have and to take care of their babies. It is comparable in its intensity. Both are enormous driving forces for all kinds of decisions that each gender ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Why do women make so much noise?This is (part of) the answer I wanted to write, so instead I'll add to yours. There does seem to be a lot of evidence that during our evolutionary history, it was common for one female to have sex with several males at the same time. Whether it was in the form of gang rape or consensual orgy is not clear -- maybe both. You mentioned the shape of the penis. That's point one. Point two is sperm competition. Only something like 5-10% of the spermatozoa are meant for fertilization of the egg. Anothe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 06:27 AM |
| 1 | How do you rate people looks?Говорят что некрасивых женщин не бывает, бывает только недостаточно водки. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/19 02:44 PM |
| 1 | How do you rate people looks?Не урод не значит красотка. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/19 01:14 PM |
| 1 | How do you rate people looks?Если есть пизда и рот, значит баба не урод. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/19 12:32 PM |
| 14 | CMV: If you are a middle class man in a first world country, you are a high value man.Precisely. OP, you're conflating the meaning of "high value". It does not mean rich, or strong, or attractive. Not when this term is used in the context of the sexual marketplace or the relationship marketplace. Rather, it means richer than, or stronger than, or more attractive than. Than what? Than the others you are being compared to. However, first world men are mostly interacting with first world women, who take many things for granted, which gives the perception to most first world men that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/19 09:31 PM |
| 2 | (Q4Women) What was the hardest "redpill" you had to swallow about men?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH7e5wxSbbQ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/19 11:07 AM |
| 2 | Are athletic and physical careers for stupid people?The answer is still yes. You need a high IQ to earn a degree to work in IT or technology. In fact, in US at least, you need to take college admission tests to get into college in the first place. ACT, SAT, or both, which themselves are part knowledge and part IQ tests. | /r/MGTOW | 24/02/19 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Are athletic and physical careers for stupid people?Smarter than. And generally, yes. | /r/MGTOW | 24/02/19 10:19 PM |
| 3 | The Red Pill Moving Into The General Populationantinatalist The word you are looking for is anti-matrimonial, meaning 'against marriage'. Antinatalist means thinking it is a bad thing to bring children into the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 12:58 PM |
| 4 | Women and men think very differently, but are EQUALA man could care less about whatever "dumb" reason an inferior intellectual opponent understands his or her argument, he simply wants to out reason him or her. I don't think this is entirely true, although you are close. I think men engage in debates for two reasons: 1) It's a fight for position in the hierarchy. Remember, men can always beat the crap out of each other, but it's very costly. So we find other, less dangerous ways to compete. If I can prove I know more than another person, I demon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 12:48 PM |
| 9 | Women and men think very differently, but are EQUALYou are leaving out a very important detail: The studies show that the tail ends of the IQ distribution are not the same. Men's graph is flatter and wider. More idiots and more geniuses. Which brings up an interesting question. Most CEOs are men. Men dominate the sciences, math, chess, etc... What all of these jobs or endeavors have in common is that they require you to be smart. Very, very smart. Way above the average. So, is this inequality in numbers due to some sort of bias towards women, or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 12:38 PM |
| 22 | Has this sub made you lean more towards the blue or red side of the pill?I think BP is just mental gymnastics to avoid reality. I came here to say something similar, but you phrased it better than I could. I was red and stayed red. Occasionally, I do see some good arguments from blues. Some nuance I have not thought of. But for the most part it feels like they are closing their eyes and refusing to look. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 01:48 AM |
| 1 | Exactly who are you waiting for to invent "toxic femininity?"I don't think they are waiting for anybody. I think they are already meme-ing it into existence. Some as a group effort, some just individually. The Gillette ad was a great catalyst for that. It didn't just piss off the MRAs and the red-pillers - they are a tiny minority, and they knew it all before. That ad pissed off a ton of "normies". Men and women. Here is a google trends graph for "toxic femininity". I'm going to revisit it in a month, and I bet, I bet!, there is going to be a spike many t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/19 10:12 PM |
| 4 | Do Men and Women Really Have Equal Mean IQs?Nah, it's been this way for a long time. Read about the reaction to The Bell Curve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/19 05:41 PM |
| 1 | Does pursuing extreme sexual success make men happy, on average?peacocks have large, demonstrative tails which show that they are able to evade predators in spite of this enormous handicap. That's one theory. Another is that it's a demonstration of fitness and health. The peacock needs to be healthy to grow a large, full, symmetrical tail. And yet another theory is called "The Tyranny of Fashion". Basically, for whatever reason, which may have nothing to do with health or ability to evade predators, the peahens find the tails attractive. In addition to being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/19 03:28 PM |
| 2 | How much evidence or suspicion would you guys need before dumping someone for cheating?In my psych class they said the 4 things that cause us to fall in love are... That's very interesting. I never thought about it like that, but it's a good way to break things down. In retrospect, seems rather obvious. Do they say you need all four, or is one sufficient? I remember reading about a study where researchers just asked pairs of men and women to sit at a table across from each other, and just look at each other for a prolonged period of time (say 30 minutes, I don't remember exactly).… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 06:16 AM |
| 2 | How much evidence or suspicion would you guys need before dumping someone for cheating?Ideally, mere suspicion ought to be sufficient. If my girl cares about me, she won't put herself into situations where I could reasonably suspect her of cheating. In other words, she is not only not going to cheat, but she will show concern for my peace of mind as well. So that's ideal. In practice, admittedly, it doesn't quite work out like that. If the gettin' is good, I might stick around a bit longer :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 12:52 PM |
| 3 | Are celebrities/well known people exempt from "women wanting status/men wanting beauty"?The only people obsessing over this shit are the ones sitting on the sidelines. Including you? :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 02:40 PM |
| 6 | Do women use sex to manipulate their man?Your girlfriend sounds like a cunt, and you're setting yourself up for a lifetime of bullshit. If in a few years you become a regular at /r/DeadBedrooms, don't say we didn't warn you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 02:39 PM |
| 2 | Can humans override their generic programming? (Genetics)I wouldn't call that "overriding" our genetic programming. We have some built-in altruism. We are programmed to risk (and potentially sacrifice) our lives for members of our tribe -- for those who are genetically close to us. In the words on J.B.S. Haldane, "I would gladly give up my life for two brothers or eight cousins." That's because two brothers or eight cousins will, combined, share about 100% of your genes. The "unit" of evolution is not an individual. It's not about survival of the fitt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 11:56 AM |
| 2 | Q4Women: What would it take for women to be like Mary Poppins sans the magical element? I am referring to her demeanor, her charm, her wit, her compassionate empathy but also her clear hardheadedness. To many men, incl. me, she's the ideal mother or even wife figure.I'll try, although I'm not a woman, and I don't think my response is all that unorthodox. I think it would take the right set of parents, the right upbringing, and a more male-like brain. So, one by one: her demeanor, charm, and compassion would depend on her upbringing (which would be heavily influenced by the parents). If you want wit, she'd probably need a higher than average IQ. Intelligence is heritable to a large degree (from at least 57% to as much as 86%, source), so the right set of par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/19 02:32 PM |
| 1 | Are women unwelcome in r/TheRedPill?Because there are no girls on the internet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 11:10 AM |
| 7 | What will reasonably happen in 20-30 years if interpersonal relationships of all sorts continue to erode at the same rate as they do right now?Meanwhile, government in a last ditch effort to save society might eventually get off their asses and change divorce, custody, child support and add benefits to marriage to encourage men to marry women. Come now, be reasonable. It's the government you're talking about. It won't change laws to add benefits to marriage. It'll change laws to add detriments to bachelorhood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/19 09:20 AM |
| 4 | What will reasonably happen in 20-30 years if interpersonal relationships of all sorts continue to erode at the same rate as they do right now?The USA population is ~330 million. Canada is ~37. All of Europe is ~750 million. Australia is ~25. New Zealand is less than 5 million. Meanwhile, India and China are at ~1.4 BILLION, each. In other words, by my calculation, all of The West, combined, makes up about 1/7th of the world population. So why is it up to The West to control its population? Europe may be crowded, but there is plenty of free land in US to support two or three times the number of people. Probably same for Canada, and pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/19 09:18 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: What kind of women does RP attract?Q4Fish: what kind of bait do you prefer? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 10:54 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Men waste women’s time a lot more than women do.Imagine this: you, as a human being, are not in a different category than the rest of the animal kingdom. You do not have a God-given soul. You do not have free will. You are one half of a self-replicating biological machine - the other half being a member of the opposite gender. The machinery that makes up who you are is a product of 650 million years or trial and error -- since the appearance of multi-cellular life, or about 3.5 billion years if you wish to include single-cell lifeforms as wel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 04:30 PM |
| 2 | Angelina Jolie hints at move into politicsNot sure if you're trying to make a joke, but John Voight is her father. | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/18 01:43 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men have more far more control over their sexuality than women.Then you are claiming two different things in the title and in the body. Body is about attractive men. Title is about men in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 05:50 AM |
| 4 | Is there the beginning of a radical push to end the sexual revolution?...Creating content ... against globalism, Feminism, liberalism, immigration, welfare, Communism in the media, Universities and press, etc. That is not extreme, unless you consider disagreeing with the status quo to be extreme. That's just participating in the marketplace of ideas. Nor, for that matter, are patriotism and nationalism extreme, although they are considered dirty words now. Preparing for war, however, is LARPing. Unless you mean Sunday-gunday posts on The_Donald -- those people jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 02:26 AM |
| 16 | Is there the beginning of a radical push to end the sexual revolution?However, the degree of traditionalism being advocated for by this growing group is quite extreme... like they are preparing for war... They're basically LARPing. What is the likelihood of extreme measures being taken to resolve Feminism within the next decade? 0% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 01:44 AM |
| 2 | "The Wall" does not exist and is merely a desperate form of cope/revenge fantasyYou toil in vain... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 08:41 PM |
| 2 | How would BP respond to these images of CDC divorce data?The fact that these graphs only include female data trends and not Male data trends adds to that fact. The male data is in the study link posted by /u/mossiness. But it doesn't have these nice graphs, so I didn't read it. Good consensual sex with multiple partners is highly unlikely to cause psychological damage, compared to violent nonconsensual encounters. Sure. But people who are having good, consensual sex with one partner are not likely to look for another. And I'm not even sure what that i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 11:15 AM |
| 0 | How would BP respond to these images of CDC divorce data?> Id put money down saying that they were already depressed, and using casual sex as a way to feel better. and > A person who has sex with more partners is at higher risk of STDs? You don't say. I find it interesting how in these two cases, you reasoned in different directions, so to speak. What if it's the other way around? What if women with STD's are angry (at men in general, because it was men who gave them the STDs), and as revenge, have sex with other men to infect them? I know, it's a str… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 10:33 AM |
| 1 | If evolution biology, natural selection is true, and AWALT...It's not a new puzzle in the science community, and many of their attempts to explain it with evolution biology in mind seems unconvincing. Great, you are familiar with the topic. Why don't you put in a little effort, and list the proposed explanations that you already know, and what you find unconvincing about them. That way, you'll save the others a lot of time. I just don't feel evolution biology paints the whole picture. I don't think there is anything in science that "paints the whole pictu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/18 04:40 PM |
| 2 | Question about The WallThat's your "Ah-hah!" moment I mentioned above. Is women marrying men younger than them the norm? Do all women marry princes? Is the life and marriage of an actress representative of the lives and marriages of all women? Rhetorical questions. We both know the answers... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/18 12:21 PM |
| 6 | Question about The WallYou're not lying. You just don't get it. Men don't just like to "start fresh". Men are biologically pre-programmed to find younger women more attractive, by a very large margin. When you throw a child into the picture, things become even more difficult, because men do not like to invest resources into other men's children, due to similar biological pre-programming. Call men shallow. Call men assholes. It doesn't change anything. It's not a question of whether only some women get screwed by the w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/18 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Roger Scruton: "To question [feminism] is...essentially made impossible, both by the curriculum and by the way of teaching it...Conformity to an orthodoxy [has taken] precedence over intellectual method."how so? Because truth is truth regardless of whether it's convenient or not. And because it's very difficult to get at. Absolute truth is probably even impossible. But the more something is discussed, the more arguments and counter-arguments people present, the closer we can get to it. Because, for example, if I bring up the fact that blacks used to own slaves too, I'm not doing it to "side-step" the issue. I'm doing it to make a point that white people aren't evil. That actually, all people, wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/18 04:56 AM |
| 2 | Roger Scruton: "To question [feminism] is...essentially made impossible, both by the curriculum and by the way of teaching it...Conformity to an orthodoxy [has taken] precedence over intellectual method."These things do not get discussed on TV. Or at work among coworkers. Or in "polite" society. ... what people don't like is when someone brings those things up in an attempt to side-step or minimize ... It's a shitty argument. It's saying "shut up or you'll hurt someone's feelings", while at the same time assuming that the person is talking for the purpose of trying to side-step or minimize the issue, or to actually hurt someone's feelings. Also, maybe there are some issues that we've blown out o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/18 10:26 PM |
| 2 | Roger Scruton: "To question [feminism] is...essentially made impossible, both by the curriculum and by the way of teaching it...Conformity to an orthodoxy [has taken] precedence over intellectual method."What's funny is that I didn't even watch the video (I know, I know, but this is reddit...). It's not that I arrived at these ideas independently either -- I got them from this sub, and some from TRP, and Mensrights, and MGTOW, and watching videos and reading posts by girlwriteswhat. And this does not diminish what this Roger Scruton guy is saying -- these are very common sense things. And Islamophobia is also a good example. I will readily admit that I am an Islamophobe. I am not afraid of indiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/18 10:17 PM |
| 9 | Roger Scruton: "To question [feminism] is...essentially made impossible, both by the curriculum and by the way of teaching it...Conformity to an orthodoxy [has taken] precedence over intellectual method."It's also frowned upon to question or debate the orthodoxy of slavery=bad The problem is that is is frowned upon (and that's an understatement) to engage in any discussion about this. One cannot, for example, bring up things such as: People have been enslaving each other for thousands of years, it was the way the world worked; Slavery was not limited to white-on-black; Blacks enslaved other blacks, both in US and in other countries; The West (meaning white people) was the first, or at least one … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/18 06:31 PM |
| 3 | In nature, at what age do human males become attracted to and have sex with human females? Can a normal/non-pedophile human male find a human female sexually attractive at age 13, 14, 15, 16? (Some develop very quickly.)Right after males go through through puberty (or during), and have a ton of testosterone coursing through their veins. So, 13, 14, 15, 16... Some sooner than later. Yes, and those who say they do not are lying to you. Pedophilia is attraction to children - to those humans who have not gone through puberty. Being attracted to a 16-year old (or someone who developed sooner) is not pedophilia. In nature, the girl you linked would already be pregnant or a mother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 12:53 AM |
| 2 | Mainly for red pillers, but for all: Do you have a double standard when it comes to persisting on a relationship and not acting "hypergamously"?You literally have to put numbers there... No, you don’t. You can’t put numbers on most things in life. You estimate. You guess. You use your best judgment. ...the cancer girlfriend... I did not read that thread. But I could understand if a guy leaves his cancer-stricken girlfriend. He’s still an asshole in my eyes. A bigger one than John in this scenario. However, I imagine taking care of a person with cancer is incredibly difficult and soul-crushing. And cancers tend to come back after some ye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/18 08:10 AM |
| 4 | Mainly for red pillers, but for all: Do you have a double standard when it comes to persisting on a relationship and not acting "hypergamously"?I think I did try to explain it in a rational way. That's the costs-benefits-risks analysis. Relationship with Mary is already very good. Relationship with the coworker could be better, but it could also be a lot worse. That's the risk. If the risk does not work out, John will do harm to himself (and possibly the coworker). In either case, John will do harm to Mary. John is trading a sure thing for an uncertain thing. That, to me, is bad judgment. I may have interpreted the scenario with the cow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/18 08:22 PM |
| 6 | Mainly for red pillers, but for all: Do you have a double standard when it comes to persisting on a relationship and not acting "hypergamously"?It's not just aversion to risk. It's poor risk assessment. Or, another way of saying it, it's poor costs to benefits analysis. Intelligent people do these better than unintelligent people. John already has a very good relationship with Mary. At best, the relationship with the coworker will be marginally better. And there is a good chance it will be worse. John is throwing away a good thing for an uncertain thing. John is not just being dumb. He is being a fuck. An asshole. He is going to do harm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/18 03:15 AM |
| 15 | Mainly for red pillers, but for all: Do you have a double standard when it comes to persisting on a relationship and not acting "hypergamously"?John and Mary are a very happy couple. John is trading a good thing for something that may or may not be better. John is a being a dumb fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/18 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Why is it okay for men to cheat but not for women?I don't see glorification or encouragement of cheating in his posts. In the linked post, he talks about how he dealt with his side-chick when she misbehaved. The post about apps is about how to use and lock apps. Nowhere is he saying "you should cheat". He is saying "if you are going to cheat, here is how to do it". This reinforces my point. Cheating by men is more tolerated. But this is different from encouragement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/18 04:36 PM |
| 3 | Why is it okay for men to cheat but not for women?Because men do not get pregnant. Because if you impregnate the one-off mistake, you can run away from it, as, until modern DNA tests and the current legal system, men have always been able to do. But if you have a long-term emotional affair with another woman, you will want to spend time with her. You might have sex with her and get her pregnant. In the worst case, you will leave your wife. In the best case, you will divide your time and resources between two women. And by "resources" I don't me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/18 02:59 AM |
| 3 | Why is it okay for men to cheat but not for women?Would you mind linking to some threads from TRP that encourage cheating? I don't mean a random reply or two. I mean threads. Threads authored by some "endorsed contributors" would be great. Sidebar material would be best. Because, as far as I know, it's not encouraged. If you're spinning plates, the advice is to let the plates know you're not exclusive, either explicitly, by saying you see other women, or at least implicitly, by not letting the girl think she is your girlfriend or significant ot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 11:59 PM |
| 2 | On DreadIt's aimed at guys who are inexperienced. Guys who've finally found a girl they really like, who want to make her happy, and do nice things for her. And after some time they realize their niceness is taken for granted and not reciprocated. It's aimed at guys who have not yet figured out that all human relationships are transactional in nature, whether we're exchanging handshakes, pats on the back, conversations, time, money, commitment, or sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Questions for All Pills on Swallowing the Red PillIt was never particularly difficult to swallow for me. Most of the core principles made sense and explained my experiences. It was a bunch of little eureka "aha!" moments. About the most difficult thing was reading bro-talk with poor spelling and grammar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/18 10:07 PM |
| 2 | (CMV) Plates are Sex-things.I like you! Reddit needs more people like you. The world need more people like you! (I am not being sarcastic.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/18 01:45 AM |
| 2 | (CMV) Plates are Sex-things.A plate is a fuck-buddy. A friend with benefits. It's a woman with whom you have a non-exclusive sexual relationship. Ideally, she is aware of the non-exlusivity. You like your buddies and friends, right? You enjoy their company. This is not so different. You just also have sex with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/18 01:41 AM |
| 2 | Civilization and monogamy had bred betasMaybe. Or maybe, due to changes in the environment, the population of human and chimpanzees ancestors was split up into two groups. One group remained in the jungle and became chimpanzees. Another group began living in a savanna -- a place with tall grass and few trees. There was an advantage to walking upright, because it allowed to see predators (and other troop members) easier, and so this group evolved bipedalism. Walking on only the rear limbs freed the front limbs to use tools. Using tools… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Civilization and monogamy had bred betasI wrote a long answer to explain why none of the arguments you put forth with regards to war, disease, famine, natural disasters, and lack of challenges actually support your conclusion. There have always been many betas. Only the top X% (5, 10, maybe as much as 20) can be alphas. It does not even matter how you define an alpha, on genetic basis or on their success in society. By definition, alphas are the top tier men. They are the men at the tail end of the distribution. If genetic studies whi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 11:14 AM |
| 5 | Civilization and monogamy had bred betasThis is a really, really weak argument. I'll admit that you might have a small point. But just how civilization changed people on a genetic basis is not well understood, and it probably did so in a myriad of other ways besides (or instead of) this alpha-beta distinction. Early societies fought wars with warriors. Later, more organized societies, what we would call civilizations, fought wars with soldiers. Warriors fight for themselves and equip themselves at their own expense. Soldiers fight as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 10:46 AM |
| 12 | Q4All: Do women really show IoI's? (indicators of interest)A woman touching her hair once may or may not mean she is interested. A woman touching her hair, touching the guy on the arm or shoulder, smiling when she sees the guy, laughing at his silly jokes, and looking at him a certain way usually means she is interested. It's not one specific thing. It's a bunch of things, a certain pattern of behavior, that adds up to a signal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/18 07:43 PM |
| 3 | The fact that female groupies exist and male groupies don't"Proves" -- no. "Supports" -- yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/18 03:02 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: What specific measures would it take for the average redpiller to feel TRP works and they are successful? (The lifespan of a successful redpiller)To add yet another criticism: those men who are particularly good-looking generally do not need TRP. They've would have had success with women from early in life, and either figured things out on their own, or never really had the need to figure things out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/18 01:17 AM |
| 1 | Q4men: what signs of aging does the typical 30 year old show? Typical 35 year old?Some apples last longer than others. Asian "apples" are really good in that regard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/18 07:09 PM |
| 2 | Q4men: what signs of aging does the typical 30 year old show? Typical 35 year old?It's true! I don't like apples, and eat them very rarely. I frequently eat bananas, and they do get sweeter with age, which I like. I also eat oranges, but they become dry when they get old, which I don't like. In any of those cases, however -- apples, oranges, or bananas -- we can all easily tell the ripe ones from the green ones or the old ones. We can do this almost instantly, without having to think much about it. I don't know if we are born knowing the difference, or if we learn it very qui… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/18 07:03 AM |
| 7 | Q4men: what signs of aging does the typical 30 year old show? Typical 35 year old?My point is that it is not useful to list the signs of aging that a 30-years old woman would show. We all already know them. Women aren't apples, of course. But it's a good analogy. You'll still eat a day-old apple. Or a two or three-day old. But given the choice, you'd prefer the perfectly ripe one. And while an apple stays tasty for only a few days, a woman can stay "tasty" for a few decades. Why is this gross, by the way? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/18 06:15 AM |
| 7 | Q4men: what signs of aging does the typical 30 year old show? Typical 35 year old?What does a perfectly ripe apple look like? What about after you leave it lying on a table for a few days? Can you describe these with words? Well, sort of. A ripe apple is shiny. Its color is bright. Its skin smooth. It looks juicy. And an overripe apple loses these qualities, gradually each day. But you do not really need to describe these things. You know these things. Nobody had to teach you. You've always known, instinctively. A perfectly ripe apple looks very tasty. Your mouth waters when … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/18 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Red piller liberal feminist is not an oxymoronThis country (USofA) is built on the principles of individual liberty, the primary of which is sexual liberty. Sexual liberty is hardly the primary liberty in US. It's a very recent thing, starting from the 1960's or later. It is very important to defend the sexual liberty of women, even if that leads to unstable society... Women don't owe men anything. We all owe each other something. It's part of the social contract. It's a function of being part of a society. "We're all in this together", as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/18 03:12 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on white nationalism!White nationalism -- dumb. Things that get labeled as white nationalism by liberals and mainstream media -- not so dumb at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/18 01:42 AM |
| 10 | Why are men more lenient with their standards when they attain an attractive woman?Why are they so primitive? This is how. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/18 11:44 AM |
| 2 | If women stopped caring about marriage, what leverage would men really have?I think it goes both ways. Maybe what you are describing is happening more frequently nowadays. Or, maybe it's always been happening, in one guise or another. But some women do value good fathers. And men (some, at least) respect other men who are good fathers. And, historically, fathers were valued. This is why I brought up the meaning of the word Patriarchy. It's more than just a label, it is a description of how things functioned, from the ground up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/18 11:22 AM |
| 2 | If women stopped caring about marriage, what leverage would men really have?Yes! Let's also fuck to promote virginity, and kill people to end wars! And we should work on stopping plate tectonics, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/18 02:10 PM |
| 6 | If women stopped caring about marriage, what leverage would men really have?Sure. But there are only so many ways to tax things. Broadly speaking, it's either some kind of activity (income taxes, gift taxes), or the consumption of something (sales or excise taxes), or the ownership of something (property taxes), or the accumulation of something (inheritance/estate taxes). The amount of money and things that a single man needs to keep himself comfortable and content is disproportionately less than what he needs to keep himself and his wife comfortable and content. It's e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/18 12:49 PM |
| 0 | If women stopped caring about marriage, what leverage would men really have?I don't think anybody is seriously saying we are driven purely by biology. They are saying we are driven by biology to a very large degree, and we are often not even aware of that. In any case, our biological programming is not perfect. It never needed to be perfect, just good enough. Most people, given the chance, choose to have children. Most do not abandon them. Very few kill their children. The rest can be attributed to mistakes in the programming, instead of dismissing biological programmin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/18 11:43 AM |
| 4 | If women stopped caring about marriage, what leverage would men really have?When I say that men could remove financial support, I don't mean individual men refusing to support individual women. Can't collect a lot of taxes from people who work to earn only enough to support themselves, instead of themselves, their wives, and several children. And you can't tax the unemployed. EDIT: sorry, misread your comment as "endless welfare state". So, yes, what you said is exactly what I meant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/18 11:25 AM |
| 13 | If women stopped caring about marriage, what leverage would men really have?At some point, women became convinced that our self worth is tied up in the ability to “keep a man”; a sentiment that men don’t particularly share as they generally aren’t judged on the quality of their relationships, just the quantity. That is not true. Men might seek variety in their youth, but as they get older, most want to settle down with one woman and start a family. The drive to pair up with somebody in a committed relationship might admittedly be slightly lower for men, but it still exi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/18 09:10 AM |
| 1 | [Q] how come its fine if a guy had sex and have high n count but if women have a high n count they got shame about it?(continued) If all females are riding the cock carousel with Chad, isn’t this really just women following age old imperatives of biology. Sure. As long as they are slutting it up with Chads, isn’t that a really effective biological strategy? Just as effective than pump and dump? No, it is not. The male pump-and-dump is probably not as successful (for the purposes of reproduction) as it used to be, for two reasons. First, mass availability of birth control, which means most of the “pumping” does … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/18 10:05 AM |
| 1 | [Q] how come its fine if a guy had sex and have high n count but if women have a high n count they got shame about it?Not trying to argue, genuine question. Great! I’ll try to explain. Please understand, I don’t have some kind of “theory of everything” worked out. I’ll explain things as I understand them. If you have constructive criticisms, and you don’t mind typing them up, please do. It helps me think about the subject matter better. So are we naturally monogamous ..., or naturally polygamous ...? The answer is yes. A few definitions are in order. Polygamous means having several spouses (or sex partners) at … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/18 10:04 AM |
| 2 | [Q] how come its fine if a guy had sex and have high n count but if women have a high n count they got shame about it?Tibet You find several counter-examples, like Tibet or the Inuits (and some people even cite what was later proven to be false, like Margaret Mead's Coming of Age in Samoa), and you think you've disproved the general rule. But you haven't. Other than several exceptions, pretty much all other human societies follow the same pattern: they are patriarchal, female virginity is valued, sluts are shamed, and monogamy (and slight polygyny, meaning one man to several women) is the norm. I think your mis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/18 07:25 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men - Single mothers/fat women/other unattractive women: Do men complain about these women's desire for quality men or are they complaining about these women complaining about not being able to attract quality men?Funny thing is, if you were to tell this to your pal... I don't know who my "pal" is here. In any case, a good relationship with a good woman is better than a bunch of ONSs, and I would not hesitate to give this advice to my friends. What a subtle way to tell her, or rather, suggest, that she choose men over career. No, that's not what I said at all. I said that she should not prioritize her career over her relationship with a man (not plural men). There needs to be balance, but her relationship… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/18 10:41 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men - Single mothers/fat women/other unattractive women: Do men complain about these women's desire for quality men or are they complaining about these women complaining about not being able to attract quality men?Find a decent guy and stick with him, instead of hopping from one to another. Your relationship does not have to be perfect -- it never is -- it just has to be good enough. Over a long term, it's not the same tastes and values that make a relationship good -- it's shared experiences, it's getting to know another person deeply, and the time spent together. As far as career, there is nothing inherently wrong with that, so long as you don't sacrifice too much for it. The nature of careers, in the U… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/18 07:57 PM |
| 4 | Most Britons agree feminism has gone far enough.The prime minister is the Head of Government. The queen is the Head of State. http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/politics/difference-between-head-of-state-and-head-of-government/ Head of state and Head of Government, in a Parliamentary form of government, are two different people performing two very different duties. The Head of State has more ceremonial duties, while the Head of Government is responsible for running the government of a country with the approval of his or her cabinet… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 09/03/18 09:10 AM |
| 11 | Q4Men - Single mothers/fat women/other unattractive women: Do men complain about these women's desire for quality men or are they complaining about these women complaining about not being able to attract quality men?I think subreddits like /r/ChoosingBeggars/, or a similar one called /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/, or /r/pussypassdenied/, are basically schadenfreude porn. They are similar to /r/Whatcouldgowrong/. They are for people who enjoy laughing at other people's stupidity, and the oftentimes painful consequences of said stupidity. I will readily admit I visit them too, and enjoy the content. But fundamentally, they are not about complaining -- they are mostly about entertainment. With regard to your quest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/18 07:37 AM |
| 9 | Q4Men: Would you rather have “Good to Okay” sex now or Amazing Explosive sex later?I want someone who really likes me. Who likes so much, that they can't wait to have sex with me. If they're delaying it, the most probable explanation is that they don't really want me. Unless you really young, or really inexperienced, or a virgin, or have recently been through a highly traumatic event, like a rape. But if you're none of the above, or anything similar, I'm not buying your explanation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/18 03:37 AM |
| 1 | RedPillers, where do you find sources from your beliefs?Books about evolutionary psychology. Two that come to mind: The Moral Animal: Why We Are, the Way We Are: The New Science of Evolutionary Psychology The Red Queen: Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature They are not all about mating. Other topics, for example, include a discussion of where altruism comes from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/18 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Differences on how Askwomen and Askmen users deal with cheating on their SO's.we make it up Maybe. On the other hand, this is an experiment with a split-brain subject, where the Corpus Callosum has been severed as a treatment for epilepsy. Maybe this is just how people with "broken" brains act. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/18 05:32 AM |
| 1 | RedPillers, where do you find sources from your beliefs?In addition to what others have said: books. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/18 11:54 PM |
| 1 | Refuting "If you're not married, you'll be lonely in your old age"You know it is true that Africans enslaved other Africans, but they've moved past slavery and it's reprocussions in thier societies. Well I was talking about the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade... No, you weren't. You know we also have child trafficking, forced labor, and illegal sex trafficking here in the USA and in most of Europe. Scale. Am I getting through to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/18 10:33 PM |
| 1 | Refuting "If you're not married, you'll be lonely in your old age"I never "fed you" any "shit" about how "everyone who's white is a potential Elon Musk". I never said anyone deserves to live on less than two dollars a day. Nor did I defend infant cannibalism. You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. What I believe, I do not do as a matter of faith. I look at the evidence before me, and draw conclusions from it. From what I can see, there are a number of factors for why the West ended up being the leader in science and culture. Genetics are a part… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/18 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Refuting "If you're not married, you'll be lonely in your old age"You know it is true that Africans enslaved other Africans, but they've moved past slavery and it's reprocussions in thier societies. No, they have not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_contemporary_Africa EDIT: Something else I want to add. A few comments above, you said that I and a few other people who replied to you were justifying slavery. That's not the case. Somebody (many comments above) said that "white people have created a culture and civilization vastly superior to all else." … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/18 06:26 PM |
| 1 | Refuting "If you're not married, you'll be lonely in your old age"With regard to cannibalism, a different analogy is more appropriate. If 200 years ago, you ate my baby, and I ate your baby, and everybody else was eating everybody else’s babies, and then, 200 years later, I started accusing you of doing horrible things in the past, then you saying that that’s what everybody else was doing would be a good criticism of my accusation. It doesn’t make eating babies right. It makes complaining about it pointless. Moreover, if 200 years ago, the baby you ate was my … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/18 11:36 AM |
| 1 | Refuting "If you're not married, you'll be lonely in your old age"Huh? Are we talking about whether slavery is okay? Well, no, it's not okay. But everybody's been enslaving and exploiting everybody else since time immemorial. The black slaves that whites brought to North America (and the islands in the Caribbean and South America) were captured by people of their own race -- other Africans -- and sold to the Europeans on the shore. So the fact that everybody was doing it renders the fact that whites were doing it neutral. However, the fact that "white people h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/18 10:02 PM |
| 5 | Refuting "If you're not married, you'll be lonely in your old age"Are you saying nonwhite people never enslaved or exploited anybody? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/18 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Bechdel test for men: any movie where a female character saves a man's life?Merry or Pippin We're looking for men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/18 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Human evolution wouldn't make sense if TRP is correct.PART 3. Things changed radically yet again about 200 years ago with The Industrial Revolution, and this change was boosted less than 100 years ago by the so-called Green Revoluion. The cities of the ancient world, with a handful of exception, housed thousands to several tens of thousands of people. Modern cities are home to hundreds of thousands to millions. Population density skyrocketed. Most people are not engaged in agriculture – now some 5% of the population can produce enough food for ever… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/18 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Human evolution wouldn't make sense if TRP is correct.PART 2. The way that humans lived changed radically some 10 to 15,000 years ago, when agriculture was invented. Instead of living a semi-nomadic lifestyle in bands of 50 to 200 individuals, humans started living in villages of hundreds or thousands of people. They started accumulating wealth. For a nomad, everything he owns, he has to be able to carry. If he cannot carry it, he has to throw it out. But a settled person lives his entire life in the same place. He can own much more than he can phy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/18 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Human evolution wouldn't make sense if TRP is correct.For a long time -- a very, very long time, up until about 10-15,000 years ago when people invented agriculture, and going back 50-200,000 years when anatomically-modern humans appeared, and probably even further back when our almost-human but not-quite-human ancestors roamed the earth -- women were faced with a choice. They could mate with alphas, and their children would have superior genes. That came at a risk, however. All women wanted alphas, so there was stiff competition. Life was dangerou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/18 05:21 AM |
| 2 | Man claims that woman who agreed to have him perform oral sex on her didn't actually consent.There's now a sub for that, too. https://www.reddit.com/r/falserapeaccusations/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/18 10:54 PM |
| 0 | Man claims that woman who agreed to have him perform oral sex on her didn't actually consent.And that's how they win. By "they", I mean people who promote unreasonable constraints on what consent means. If a woman does not want to have sex, then she should say she does not want to have sex. If the man continues, she should push him away. If up to the point when she changed her mind she was behaving in a way that indicated she wanted sex, then it's on her to make it unambiguously clear that sex is not wanted. If she says she is not sure, but continues to have sex, that is not rape. At le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/18 09:37 PM |
| -2 | Q4W: Would you date a man who has seen multiple prostitutes?virtually all semi-rich men throughout history had been visiting prostitutes regularly. most women throughout history have been expected to stay chaste and faithful to their husbands, or face consequences. what makes people's behavior during the last 50-100 years more correct than different behavior over previous millennia? if you want to have relationships with men, you need to get over the fact that semi-confident non-brainwashed men find women with excessive sexual histories as not worthy of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/18 06:18 AM |
| 1 | Patriarchy is not a "natural state" of being. Feminism is a return to form.There is so much wrong with this. Men and women worked in tandem with each other, but neither sex was "dominant" over the other. Each gender could more or less each fend for themselves, similar to what we see other mammal groups today, who move in herds, and have loose social structures. We are a sexually dimorphic species. So are chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans. Males are substantially stronger than females. As hunters-gatherers, in general, men hunted and women gathered, because hunting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/18 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Who will have more sex: women with many men to choose from ("women's paradise") or those with few ("men's paradise")?Well... yeah. I suppose a more accurate way to say it is that, in varying degrees, we all have it in us. AMALT. Doesn't mean every man will rape you, just like it doesn't mean every woman will do the AWALT-things, but you should be careful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Who will have more sex: women with many men to choose from ("women's paradise") or those with few ("men's paradise")?If there were 100 men and 1 woman left in the world... Reminds me of a joke. There is a shipwreck, and a woman passenger and twelve sailors end up on an uninhabited island. After two weeks, the woman cannot take it anymore, and she kills herself. Two weeks later, the men gather and hold a meeting. They decide that they cannot go on like this anymore either, and that it is time to bury her. After two more weeks, the men hold another meeting. They decide that they definitely cannot go on like this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 08:06 PM |
| 9 | Q4M&W The future of West under sharia, would feminists see it as a good thing or a failure...huge claim that liberal feminist women are very rah rah Muslim culture... They're not necessarily pro Muslim culture. They are against any kind of discrimination, actual or even perceived. And they perceive it everywhere. What they don't get is that discrimination is not always bad. It is fundamentally choice. Sometimes it is rational and deserved. Some cultures are objectively better than others. Some countries are shitholes. Some people, as a group, have a high concentration of assholes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/18 04:16 PM |
| 2 | Dominance and Natural Alphas and SigmasIn any case, I dont believe that alpha/beta dichotomy is applicable at least for humans, and was already proven incorrect for wolves. There doesnt seem to be predestined dominant individuals so much as social situations that foster greater or lesser degrees of dominant behaviors and heirarchy within the population. I remember (some of) these wolf alpha/beta discussions, and I think this is a not closed issue as you suggest. The gist of it was that while wolves in captivity did indeed display alp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/18 12:36 PM |
| 0 | Why bother with all this "love" and "sex" shit?not much else to it. Not much, indeed. Just the driving force for the procreation of the human race. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 05:02 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The Red Pill has become too paranoid about false rape accusationshttps://www.reddit.com/r/falserapeaccusations/ Enjoy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/17 04:35 PM |
| 1 | [Q4RP Men] Would like to have stricktly enforced lifetime monogamy?Pretty much. Doesn't need to be hot. Also substitute "or" for "and", but I assume that you meant the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 12:16 PM |
| 3 | Confidence doesn't make a man more attractive. Masculinity does.To top all-that, I look 5-7 years younger than my age. Grow a beard! :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 08:02 AM |
| 3 | Q4Men: Is sex/intimacy with a woman really an achievement?No, this is bullshit. It's like saying "it's ok that you're not having sex, because sex isn't such a big deal anyway, and you have all these other great qualities despite it..." Maslow was onto something when he placed sex on the same level as food and water. It fucks with your head in incredible ways when you're not getting it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/17 07:07 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The male epidemics of loneliness and sexual frustration aren’t problems that warrant societal fixingThis applies equally well to societies (or civilizations, in the bigger scheme of things) as it does species or individuals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/17 03:55 AM |
| 0 | How come no woman is able to have pity sex but some women are able to have sex for money?So... Briffault's Law? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/17 08:09 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe that "Misogyny" is necessary in order for human evolution to occur?Sources, please. Sources. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 03:50 AM |
| 1 | If you had a son that was a 22 year old virgin, what sort of advice would you give him about women?If your 22-year old son has zero social life (from about 14), do you not help somehow? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/17 06:54 AM |
| 1 | If you had a son that was a 22 year old virgin, what sort of advice would you give him about women?car Like I said, I saved up a few thousand from part-time jobs during college. My parents could have helped me buy a car with it. Or, they could have even added some of their own money (not more than half), and helped me buy something that would not break down every month. But they didn't. Instead, I bought a car together with my dad, which realistically he owned, and I had to ask permission to use, which wasn't always granted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/17 06:53 AM |
| 1 | If you had a son that was a 22 year old virgin, what sort of advice would you give him about women?Your situation was different. I socialized very, very little from 14 until about my mid-to-late 20's. I had a few friends in high school, but I never saw them outside of school. And yes, it is different for boys and girls. Your parents would have been correct to say that "you'd always have been fucked". No such guarantees for guys. You might have been embarrassed by being a virgin. I felt absolutely worthless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/17 06:49 AM |
| 1 | If you had a son that was a 22 year old virgin, what sort of advice would you give him about women?You're 20 (I looked at your history). Learn from my mistakes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/17 06:45 AM |
| 1 | If you had a son that was a 22 year old virgin, what sort of advice would you give him about women?This is the kind of thing you do for your kid if they're having trouble socializing in elementary school. I had friends until 14. Then we moved countries. Then, with a handful of exceptions, my time was spend in school or at home. If your son is a virgin at 22, you're in crisis mode. You do at least something. They did nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/17 06:44 AM |
| 2 | If you had a son that was a 22 year old virgin, what sort of advice would you give him about women?No, it's not my parent's job to get me laid. It was their job to notice that something was wrong, and having noticed, to take some measures. None of what I wrote suggests they should have hired me a hooker, or played matchmaker, or anything like that. But they could have helped me. They could have talked to me. Maybe encouraged me. They could have helped me get to a place where finding a girlfriend would have been easier. Even half of the things I listed in my post would have helped. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/17 06:41 AM |
| 10 | If you had a son that was a 22 year old virgin, what sort of advice would you give him about women?That is very similar to me. I lost my virginity at 22 (almost 23). I’m 5’7”. I too was average build, even a bit overweight, and was not working out. I went to a suburban college. Not religious, and not deformed. Also, as far as I know, I’m not on the autistic spectrum. My parents didn’t do jack shit. They did not care. They did even not think about it. I’ve actually brought this up with them a few years ago. I asked, where were you guys, when I was a teenager, and early 20’s (and, in fact, mid-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/17 02:17 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: Is it possible that a large proportion of people are just genetically unsuited for sexual activity?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a3zXJ7biqI | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/17 06:23 AM |
| 2 | How bad is cheating?IDK if I'd phrase it like that. What I mean is that the possibility of cheating will always be in the back of the head of the cheated on person. They will never completely trust another, the way they did the first time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/17 03:42 PM |
| 3 | How bad is cheating?No. The person who was cheated on will never be able to completely trust future partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/17 03:30 PM |
| 9 | How bad is cheating?It's stealing the trust out of future relationships as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/17 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Millennials and Boobs: They Just Don't Like ThemCould it just be because women dress differently nowadays, exposing much more skin than women of earlier generations? So now there's nothing particularly hidden or mysterious about boobs? There are some African and South American tribes where women go bare-chested, and AFAIK, the men of such tribes do not associate breasts with sex or eroticism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Do women vary less in personality and intelligence than men?The best I was able to find was a comparison of men's and women's scores on SAT tests, categorized by race. There is high correlation between IQ and SAT scores, so it might be somewhat indicative. See these two images. Problem is, this is just somebody's blog, and I don't know how trustworthy it is. To be fair, I don't know how trustworthy the sources of the other images I linked earlier are either, but they match what I otherwise know, so I felt safe posting them without some sort of a disclaim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Do women vary less in personality and intelligence than men?There are all kinds of criticisms of IQ -- anything from it being inaccurate, to being outright inhumane. I don't think all criticisms are reasonable. With regard to your points: (1) IQ tests, fundamentally, measure how fast a person thinks. Given unlimited time, even a 70-IQ person should be able to answer all questions correctly, but the tests are always time-limited. Yes, there are different kinds of thinking -- there's rotating (2d and 3d) shapes, rearranging letters to form words, seeing pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Do women vary less in personality and intelligence than men?Average IQ is not the same in every region. The map looks kind of like this. Average IQ is not the same in every race. The graph looks kind of like this. Now, the interesting question is, does the IQ of men and women in every country, or of every race if we wish to be more general, follow the same pattern? That is, is men's distribution always shorter and wider, and women's always taller and narrower? I do not know. I was not able to find any graphs that would do race and gender together. Intuit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 05:25 AM |
| 1 | Do women vary less in personality and intelligence than men?With regard to intelligence, you are mostly correct. Search for images of "men women IQ distribution", or something similar, and you will find many graphs. Men's distribution is shorter and wider. Women's distribution is taller and narrower. So, there are indeed more geniuses and idiots among men, whereas women tend towards the normal. The graphs seem to come in two varieties -- version one and version two. In one case, the highest points of the two distributions align, and in another case, men'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/17 11:34 PM |
| 2 | PSA: "gender is a social construct" is not the same as "a persons gender is entirely socially constructed"I can still only see one gender system, with two genders, male and female. People who do not match their biological sex with their performance- and identity-based gender are still choosing from only two genders. From the wikipedia article on Two-Spirits: Not all tribes/nations have rigid gender roles, but, among those that do, the most usual spectrum that has been documented is that of four genders: feminine woman, masculine woman, feminine man, masculine man. [Emphasis mine] So, people either a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/17 03:04 PM |
| 2 | PSA: "gender is a social construct" is not the same as "a persons gender is entirely socially constructed"I think you're kind of trolling, but I'll take you seriously for the moment, because you raise some interesting points. Throughout history, some cultures have referred to males and females as "men" and "women". And the word "girl" used to mean a child of either sex, male of female. Languages change, and words are just labels. A rose is a rose by any other name, and all that. But, while I could see /u/BiggerDthanYou using language as another example of something that is socially constructed (not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/17 03:26 AM |
| 3 | PSA: "gender is a social construct" is not the same as "a persons gender is entirely socially constructed"...there are various gender systems to be found all around the world and throughout history. Please give examples. Specific examples. Ideally, please give many examples, because one or two might just be a curious exception to the rule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/17 04:00 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men raise their SMV to get validation from other men, not to have sex with more women.It's very much unislamic to... And let us not forget that Islam is a religion of peace! There's a huge difference between what's written in a holy book, and the actual culture and practice of a given religion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/17 03:45 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and the Alpha Wolf MythBroadly speaking, cities would have had to come first. But you're asking a somewhat loaded question, and I think you are making some assumptions which are not accurate. First, rules. There would always have been rules of some kind. Even in a hunter-gatherer group of 20-200 individuals, the members would have had to follow some rules of their leader, if they had one. But there are big differences between this, and the kind of enforcement that happens with cities. In hunter-and-gatherer groups, ru… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 08:30 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and the Alpha Wolf MythDomestication is not a mental process. It is not people "agreeing" to follow some rules to harmoniously live together. It is people being forced to follow rules, with those who cannot -- because they are too aggressive, or too impulsive -- being killed off. Generation after generation, for several thousand years. Self-domesticated humans are not like the squirrels or raccoons a person might keep in their apartment. Domestication (and self-domestication) is not "taming". Modern humans are differe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 05:43 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and the Alpha Wolf MythThat's awesome, and very educational. But you missed the point: you cannot have civilization without cities. And with cities, you get humans domesticating themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 04:24 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and the Alpha Wolf MythCivilization means cities. It's in the name. "Civitas" is city in Latin. It's cities and everything that this implies: Farming to produce a food surplus. Settled way of life to engage in farming. A fortified place (a city!) to store that surplus, so it does not get stolen by other nomadic people. A large population, because farming can support far more people than the carrying capacity of land can support nomadic hunters and gatherers. Specialization. Because 95% of people who are engaged in far… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 12:14 AM |
| 2 | One thing that the google memo overlooked: different mating strategies influence different career choices....I think from the onset that the entire google memo thing is a fucking joke... ...the google manifesto makes 90% sense... Pick one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/17 02:32 PM |
| 3 | One thing that the google memo overlooked: different mating strategies influence different career choices.Google Manifesto Guy: Google wants diversity. Google wants to fight against racism and sexism. And I do too. But, here are many scientific findings that suggest that the lack of diversity is not due to racism and sexism, but instead due to inherent differences in people and the choices they make. Here are some examples of how Google is trying to achieve diversity, and here is my analysis of why it isn't working, and is not likely to ever work when done this way. Moreover, the way Google approach… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/17 01:59 PM |
| 3 | Which sex has it easier?Thank you! I've actually seen this argument before, but in a slightly different context. It was that poor families are more likely to have girls, and rich families are more likely to have boys. The explanation was very similar -- girls are about as likely to reproduce in either case, whereas boys can benefit from the family wealth. I didn't make the connection in this case. Also, I was wondering if there's any argument to be made with regards to calories. Girls, in general, need fewer, and it se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Which sex has it easier?Would appreciate a source for this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 01:41 PM |
| 1 | Question 4Men : Did you get Married, enter a LTR not expecting sex?Not me. I'm not the person you originally replied to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/17 03:20 AM |
| 6 | Question 4Men : Did you get Married, enter a LTR not expecting sex?They can pair off with other asexuals and not fuck them. Or, stay alone, and not fuck themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/17 02:47 AM |
| 2 | Lets discuss female body hairShaving is a fad that only popped up in recent decades. Go look up ancient Egyptians. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/17 06:29 AM |
| 6 | Q4ALL: What was something that you didn't realize was sexist until the internet pointed it out to you?EVERYTHING! Some people just like being offended. And they go out of their way and get very creative about the things they choose to be offended by. I mostly stopped paying attention, except occasionally for shits and giggles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/17 10:03 AM |
| 1 | Why are women expected to exert more self control than men?Thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/17 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Real Men? Famous Men as Examples.I know. Like I said, I like triggering snowflakes :) EDIT: "Boys from Brazil" is fiction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/17 06:17 AM |
| 2 | Real Men? Famous Men as Examples.Nah. He fucked up badly and lost the war. And he didn't have any children. Plus, I'm a jew. :) I was only half serious with one of my examples. Of course I recognize that Genghis Khan was a brutal murderer. But he was nevertheless very successful, in all kinds of measures. And I genuinely admire the other two men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/17 06:15 AM |
| 3 | Real Men? Famous Men as Examples.Genghis Khan. He was the most successful man ever, at least from an evolutionary perspective (and one of the most successful from a military perspective). God Emperor Doctor Donald J. Trump. Dude won in life. Also, I like triggering snowflakes. Cincinnatus. For saving Rome and immediately giving up his dictatorship. Twice. Although I fear what is written about him is full of embellishment and legends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/17 06:00 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: The manosphere has a precious wealth of knowledge, concepts, principles, tactics, and strategies. How much do you guys worry that over time there will be an increased female awareness of all the above-mentioned things, threatening their utility?It's a perfectly legitimate approach to model sexual strategies as some kind of a war or battle. However, you make all kinds of unfounded assumptions. the male side will run out of tactics very quickly... Why? it takes a long time to develop/practice new tactics... The so-called manosphere has only been around for a few years, maybe a decade. Clearly for a shorter period of time than since the wide availability of the Internet. Either the tactics were developed very quickly, which negates the po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/17 06:11 AM |
| 16 | Why are women expected to exert more self control than men?drink less Because women, of average, have smaller bodies and lower tolerance for alcohol. smoke less Because women make babies, and then feed them, and damage to women's bodies is more grave than similar damage to men's bodies. For the record, though, I'm a smoker, and don't much care if a woman smokes, unless she's pregnant or breastfeeding. sleep around less The good ol' "lock and key" analogy. Men do not like (to commit to) women who sleep around. when it comes to food and not be fat Because… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/17 04:57 AM |
| 1 | Toilet seat up or toilet seat down?I pee sitting down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/17 03:48 PM |
| 2 | Male and Female Imperative are Ultimately Irreconcilable, Get Over ItYour sentence should have been "What if she has defective ovaries?". OP's comment is kinda nonsensical, but I think he's basically calling you uneducated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/17 09:00 PM |
| 2 | Male and Female Imperative are Ultimately Irreconcilable, Get Over It"defective" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/17 07:40 PM |
| 13 | Male and Female Imperative are Ultimately Irreconcilable, Get Over ItYou're engaging in language policing. I don't think it's appropriate here. What the OP, and most of us here, are doing, whether we consciously realize it or not, is trying to understand human nature. It is not something we can ever do completely -- human nature is just way too complex. What we can do, however, to at least shed some light onto this subject, is to model it. This means we simplify the issue, and try to focus on what we think are one or several of the most important features. Of cou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/17 07:37 PM |
| 2 | Female Lawyers Are So Different!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzEDeVp5A4o | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/17 03:58 PM |
| 2 | Female Lawyers Are So Different!Single female lawyers Fighting for their clients Wearing sexy mini-skirts And being self-reliant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/17 03:47 PM |
| 3 | Sjws and feminists bash 13 yr old boyCommas, periods, sentences, paragraphs. Please learn to use these. Semicolons are very good too, but they are an advanced topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/17 07:33 AM |
| 9 | Example of a feminist fighting for men.“There is no reciprocity. Men love women. Women love children. Children love hamsters. Hamsters don't love anyone; it is quite hopeless." ― Alice Thomas Ellis | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/17 03:11 PM |
| 1 | Men, what's your opinion on Indian womenEx-boyfriend did not dare to stand up to his parents, and got an arranged marriage? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/17 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Men, what's your opinion on Indian womenI was the same age, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/17 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Men, what's your opinion on Indian womenSometimes, after eating, you might take a napkin to wipe your lips. The napkin might be very soft, particularly absorbent, and feel nice in your hand. In that moment, you appreciate the napkin's quality and usefulness. And then you throw it in the trash. Some things are useful for but a moment. Others for a couple of years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/17 02:59 PM |
| 2 | Men, what's your opinion on Indian womenWhite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/17 02:34 PM |
| 5 | Men, what's your opinion on Indian womenThey will hide you from their family and friends. They will idolize you at the beginning of the relationship, until they realize you are just human and imperfect. They will cheat. They will get confused about what and who they want. They will be too cowardly to outright break up with you, so they will instead start treating you like garbage. They will then get an arranged marriage, and probably get pregnant by another man. Or, I dunno, maybe I had a broken one or something... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/17 01:43 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you fear The Red Pill becoming so widespread that nearly everyone can see signs of it being employed?...I personally wouldn't stay with a man who spoke of his other partners this way... You do realize it is usually one or two other women, right? Nobody's fucking enough girls to take up all fingers on four hands and move onto toes. Ain't nobody's got time for that! Which is part of what makes this answer funny, the other being the execution. I personally wouldn't stay with a man who spoke of his other partners this way... And you would have been given full disclosure of what to expect, which is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/17 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you fear The Red Pill becoming so widespread that nearly everyone can see signs of it being employed?"Yes, I sleep with other girls." "OMG, how many??" "Oh, hundreds...", or "I don't know, I lost count a few days ago...", or start counting on the fingers of your left hand, continue on the right hand, and then take her hands and count on her fingers. Then count toes. Something like that. The point is to keep it light an a matter of fact. This isn't something you need to explain. This is never something you should justify to the woman. It's just how it is. Take it or leave it. And if she chooses … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/17 05:54 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you fear The Red Pill becoming so widespread that nearly everyone can see signs of it being employed?I misspelled "manner" as "matter", my bad. The point isn't to brag, or to amuse oneself. It's to state it as a matter of fact, to not make a huge deal out of it, and to keep the girl amused. In any case, my comment was to explain that Red Pill does not promote cheating. It is, in fact, quite the opposite. I'm sure some redpillers cheat, as do some bluepillers, and all kinds of other people in between. But this isn't what redpill is about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/17 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Exam QuestionWith regard to muscle definition, the answer is (c) None of the above. This is a phenomenon similar to the popularity of tanning. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_tanning#Cultural_history: Tanning has gone in and out of fashion. In the United States and Western Europe before about the 1920s, tanned skin was associated with the lower classes, because they worked outdoors and were exposed to the sun. Women went to great lengths to preserve pallid skin, as a sign of their "refinement". Women'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/17 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you fear The Red Pill becoming so widespread that nearly everyone can see signs of it being employed?OP equates TRP with Pick-up Artistry, which is a tiny part of it, and cites examples of very poorly-executed pick-up techniques. My comment was to illustrate that there is a great deal more to TRP than just pick-up, and that a lot of it is awesome. Now, yes, there is a difference between more people merely being aware of TRP, and more people actually practicing it. However, I think that as more people become aware, some portion of them would adopt it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/17 06:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you fear The Red Pill becoming so widespread that nearly everyone can see signs of it being employed?It is sarcasm. Obviously nobody is infinitely wise. Laws oftentimes have negative unintended consequences, such that in retrospect is it hard to understand what the lawmakers thought of (or, were thinking with) when they enacted this or that law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/17 06:17 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you fear The Red Pill becoming so widespread that nearly everyone can see signs of it being employed?TRP encourages men to freely admit that they sleep with other women. And to do so in a confident, un-apologetic, and amusing matter to boot. The rationale is that women want men that other women want, and doing so increases the man's value in the woman's eyes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/17 06:15 AM |
| 1 | Do you think hateful speech has no consequences?Of course hate speech has consequences. The problem is that restricting speech likewise has negative consequences. As a society (culture, civilization, something like that) we have reached a conclusion that restricting speech has far greater negative consequences than allowing hate speech. So, with a number of exceptions, speech is allowed. Inciting violence is illegal. Divulging state secrets is illegal. But talking about people of some race, or gender, or sexual orientation is a hateful manner… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/17 06:08 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Do you fear The Red Pill becoming so widespread that nearly everyone can see signs of it being employed?No, they don't. They say "the legislature, in its infinite wisdom" :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/17 02:38 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Do you fear The Red Pill becoming so widespread that nearly everyone can see signs of it being employed?LOL. "The legislature, in its infinite wisdom..." is a common enough expression. From then on we both used that term in our comments. Does it actually matter? I could be from Mars. What matters is whether what I'm saying is correct or not. But yes, you got me. I am actually a Russian spy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/17 01:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you fear The Red Pill becoming so widespread that nearly everyone can see signs of it being employed?Plates are encouraged. Cheating is not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/17 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you fear The Red Pill becoming so widespread that nearly everyone can see signs of it being employed?Legislature follows voters, or they don't get elected. OP's hypothetical was about TRP becoming widespread. Following that hypothetical scenario, more people would become aware of the issues, and more voters would want some kind of a reform of marriage and divorce laws. But as things are right now, I agree with you that nothing is going to change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/17 01:28 PM |
| 6 | Q4RP: Do you fear The Red Pill becoming so widespread that nearly everyone can see signs of it being employed?Since when are men pining for commitment though? I thought TRP was about... Are you asking about men in general, or TRP men? Yes, men in general want commitment. Yes, many TRP men want commitment too. And yes, many do not. BTW, commitment doesn't necessarily include marriage. It does include faithfulness. So men don't want marriage but they do want commitment. Yes, because marriage, as it exists now, in the US at least, and likely in many other Western countries, carries high risks and low rewar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/17 12:59 PM |
| 19 | Q4RP: Do you fear The Red Pill becoming so widespread that nearly everyone can see signs of it being employed?No. If TRP becomes widespread, I see positive things happening: Men lifting and taking better care of their bodies. Obesity epidemic decreasing. Men acting with more confidence. After a certain amount of fake-it-till-you-make-it, they realize that confidence comes from within, and they have it within them. Men become more happy in general. Fewer people are prescribed antidepressants. Men’s partners are more happy to be with them. Men realizing that marriages offer them few advantages and a great… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/17 07:05 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Red-Pillers of PPD, how do you respond to the claim that evolutionary psychology is very thin, despite much "pop science" that invokes it left, right, and center?Robert Kurzban suggested that "...critics of the field, when they err, are not slightly missing the mark. Their confusion is deep and profound. It’s not like they are marksmen who can’t quite hit the center of the target; they’re holding the gun backwards." From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_psychology#Evolutionary_psychology_defense Why should I listen to a linguist's criticism of a branch of biology? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/17 04:39 AM |
| 1 | The Wall: A surveyAs long as humankind recklessly proceeds in the fateful delusion of being biologically fated for triumph, nothing essential will change. As its numbers mount and the spiritual atmosphere thickens, the techniques of protection must assume an increasingly brutal character. And humans will persist in dreaming of salvation and affirmation and a new Messiah. Yet when many saviours have been nailed to trees and stoned on the city squares, then the last Messiah shall come. Then will appear the man who,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/17 02:22 AM |
| 1 | I don't think women understand that men are genuinely desperateWe learn early on that boys want sex. That isn't what OP is talking about. We likewise learn that girls like to play with dolls and pretend to be mommies. We learn that women think babies are cute. But that is very different from realizing that becoming a mother is one of the most important life goals for most women. Realizing that some women measure their success in life by their children -- how many, how well they raised them, fed them, clothed them, took care of them. Realizing that being a m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/17 02:32 PM |
| 1 | I don't think women understand that men are genuinely desperateOp also isn't saying that men obsessively think about sex every waking moment. He is saying that to understand men, one must understand the male sex drive as one of the defining features of what it means to be a man, and the importance men attach to sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/17 01:04 PM |
| 3 | Would you care if you saw these sausages being made?Pretty much this. This can be said in a milder way, without accusing anyone of lying or being untrustworthy. Simply put, words ≠ actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/17 06:28 AM |
| 1 | Just for fun, how do you guys stack up on this online iq test?Yeah, that makes sense. BTW, I noticed that the test rearranges the answers each time, so my B or F aren't necessarily your B or F. But there are two 8-shaped answers, and I couldn't figure out if it was the vertical or the diagonal one (and it's the vertical one!). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/17 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Just for fun, how do you guys stack up on this online iq test?34: This is addition. Think of black circles inside as positive numbers, and black circles outside as negative. Third figure is the sum of the previous two. 35: Mirroring. The middle figure tells you which way to mirror. Left-right, top-bottom, or both. 36: Fucked if I know, this one gave me the most trouble. I could not see the pattern. Instead, I counted the color and orientation of each shape (3-piece, 2-piece, and 1-piece), and answered with the shape that seemed to have the right pieces. 37… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/17 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Just for fun, how do you guys stack up on this online iq test?135 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/17 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why the double standards for female on male rape? Where are the feminists?The problem is, that when it suits them, feminists claim that they are concerned with issues affecting women. And when it suits them otherwise, they claim to be egalitarian, concerned with issues that affect all people, women and men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/17 01:21 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why the double standards for female on male rape? Where are the feminists?But feminism is about equality for all people, right? Men too. So where are the feminists? Where is their outrage? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/17 01:17 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why the double standards for female on male rape? Where are the feminists?BTW, something else just occurred to me. There was a thread here some time ago about BP debate tactics. One of the points was that they often do not directly answer questions, but instead counter by shifting the discussion to what the other side (like RP) does. Which is exactly what you are doing here. The question was "Where are the feminists?" Your answer is "Where are the men?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/17 01:12 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why the double standards for female on male rape? Where are the feminists?https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/67yafq/tennessee_family_sues_after_female_janitor/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/67r4d2/woman_not_guilty_in_teacherstudent_sex_case/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6642fv/donald_trump_on_boys_raped_by_teachers_i_dont_see/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/62v3a6/why_is_it_ok_for_female_teachers_to_have_sex_with/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/62s9j4/pregnant_teacher_27_arrested_for_multiple_sex/ ht… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/17 12:58 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why the double standards for female on male rape? Where are the feminists?Yes. Quietly, in their own homes. And I guess they'll grudgingly nod if you ask them directly, in public, and put them on the spot. But when it comes to women being raped, it's OMG RAPE CULTURE!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/17 12:47 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why the double standards for female on male rape? Where are the feminists?Yes, redpillers are assholes, so of course they would say such things. Feminists are right, and they're the good guys. So... why are they not outraged by this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/17 12:36 AM |
| 3 | Having the Red Pill as a foundation is a horrible idea because it's all about the short term...if you don't address your infrastructure... Because redpill certainly does not advocate working on your body, career, mental development, and so on. It's solely about being mean to women. I believe if someone is having these toxic thoughts about women then they need to realize that their previous encounters with them have been unfortunate and it's not something that reflects everyone woman in the world. So, a bunch of guys get together, and share their stories. One guy's story matches another… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/17 08:21 AM |
| 2 | I find the Red Pill to be toxic and not the answer to your problemsFrom wikipedia article on Stoicism: Stoicism teaches the development of self-control and fortitude as a means of overcoming destructive emotions... Why is that toxic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/17 10:31 AM |
| 1 | I find the Red Pill to be toxic and not the answer to your problemsI see. Is that so much worse that this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/17 10:24 AM |
| 1 | I find the Red Pill to be toxic and not the answer to your problemshellenistic I wanna know too! OP, please tell us what you meant by that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/17 09:19 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Hypergamy: Is it true that “Men want more, women want better?”That's a thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/17 08:12 AM |
| 1 | My wife (f/29) cheated on me (m/32) and I hit herHey, OP. I don't have much to add to everything else that's already been said on four of your threads (and the one of your soon-to-be-ex). I can only grasp the pain you're going through. I would like to ask you a question. In your wife's thread, she mentioned a pre-nup. Specifically: ...I've spoken to divorce lawyers too. They say a prenup doesnt mean anything anymore... I ask because there's a lot of confusion about just how much protection prenuptial agreements provide. Some say they do nothin… | /r/MGTOW | 11/04/17 05:35 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Is it true that female sexual hypergamy was constrained in the past, but now it has become unleashed, and now it threatens to lead to the breakdown of Western civilization?"dudes not getting their dicks wet" The ones from Middle Eastern countries not getting their dicks wet enlist into ISIS, because one of the benefits is access to sex slaves. Some of the immigrants in the West originally from the Middle East, who still cannot get their dicks wet, follow the same path. I don't know if it will be THE leading cause of the fall of the West. But, along with all kinds of other reasons listed in this thread, it just might end up being one of the contributing factors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/17 09:24 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Is it true that female sexual hypergamy was constrained in the past, but now it has become unleashed, and now it threatens to lead to the breakdown of Western civilization?You could go back even further with the Temperance Movement, though it was not solely women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/17 07:56 AM |
| 7 | Alright, enough with the questions. Let's talk amused mastery, and why communication is a much better alternative.scientific research... You have one survey. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/17 06:15 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Men in general are more aggressive, manipulative, and hateful than womenHmmm. Does that also mean the best people in history are men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/17 07:10 AM |
| 1 | why can men have multiple sex partners and still settle down while women that ride CC can't?I didn't. I claimed they both did it. Then I provided an example for it happening in a highly-civilized agricultural society. Now to support my claim of infanticide among hunter-gatherers: Many Neolithic groups routinely resorted to infanticide in order to control their numbers so that their lands could support them. Joseph Birdsell believed that infanticide rates in prehistoric times were between 15% and 50% of the total number of births, while Laila Williamson estimated a lower rate ranging fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/17 06:26 PM |
| 1 | why can men have multiple sex partners and still settle down while women that ride CC can't?They were farmers. Both hunter-gatherers and farmers practiced infant exposure. I brought up Romans because there is actual archaeological evidence for this, and to illustrate that a people as advanced and civilized as them still did it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/17 01:12 PM |
| 1 | why can men have multiple sex partners and still settle down while women that ride CC can't?Thanks! Feels good that somebody actually read all that, and even better that someone enjoyed it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/17 08:19 AM |
| 1 | why can men have multiple sex partners and still settle down while women that ride CC can't?Nah, no need to apologize. My comment was indeed ambiguous. I switched the evolutionary standard for the moral standard, but for reasons explained in the comment above. As for why Mother Teresa was a terrible person, search for Christopher Hitchens' writings (or videos) about her. Or start with the wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Mother_Teresa . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/17 03:24 AM |
| 2 | why can men have multiple sex partners and still settle down while women that ride CC can't?Nature (or biology, or evolution, or our genes, call it what you like) wants us to have children. The way it accomplishes this goal is by making us crave sex. Until modern birth control, this "plan" worked wondrously well. The only reason modern people can delay or abstain from having children is because they have access to condoms, birth control pills, diaphragms, nuva-rings, abortions, and so on and so forth. There have always been people in the past who did not have children -- priests, vesta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/17 03:09 AM |
| 1 | why can men have multiple sex partners and still settle down while women that ride CC can't?Well biologically, nutrition, breastfeeding, demands on the female body of the hunter-gatherer lifestyle would be the things stopping us having kids every 9 months... The problem for hunter-gatherers (and later on, agriculturalists) was not that they could not have enough children. They had too many, more than they could feed. The common solution was exposure. Ancient Romans, for example, threw out their unwanted babies on the city's garbage heaps. ...we're not hunter gatherers. Humans had been … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/17 02:32 AM |
| 3 | why can men have multiple sex partners and still settle down while women that ride CC can't?You are conflating "worth" to society, "worth" to the opposite gender, and evolutionary success. Yes, indeed, if you have many children, you are successful from an evolutionary point of view, because you spread your genes. But evolution also made men fearful of being cucked (those who weren't were selected out of the gene pool). Men look at slutty women as inherently less worthy or unworthy. Such women are less worthy of the man's investment, because there is a higher chance that he will end up … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 03:28 PM |
| 2 | why can men have multiple sex partners and still settle down while women that ride CC can't?Yep. From an evolutionary perspective, the heroin-addicted single mother is more successful. A woman like Grace Eldering may have "worth" to society in general, because she invented something that benefits us all. But it is a different kind of worth than what a woman offers to another man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 02:45 PM |
| 3 | why can men have multiple sex partners and still settle down while women that ride CC can't?I agree with you. But /u/ozymandias271 brought up Mother Teresa as some kind of an icon to aspire to, and I wanted to point out that she is anything but that. However, from both the evolutionary standard and the moral standard, the heroin-addicted whore is a better (although they are both awful people). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 02:33 PM |
| 2 | why can men have multiple sex partners and still settle down while women that ride CC can't?I knew about the promiscuity of the Roman upper class women in late Republic and early Empire, but information about the Greeks and the lower classes, as well as the Romans' views of Jews' treatment of women are new to me. Thank you for an informative answer! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 08:03 AM |
| 6 | why can men have multiple sex partners and still settle down while women that ride CC can't?Actually, yes. That heroin-addicted single mom caused suffering to 12 children. Mother Teresa caused suffering for hundreds or thousands of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 05:50 AM |
| 1 | why can men have multiple sex partners and still settle down while women that ride CC can't?the reason christianity became popular and stable was ... because it promoted patriarchial monogamy I don't think Christianity invented either monogamy or patriarchical society. For example, the pagan Romans and pagan Greeks were both monogamous and patriarchical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/17 05:46 AM |
| 1 | Does the differences of beauty in ethnic groups effect SMV and TRP theory?According to the chart /u/BiggerDthanYou posted, only if he is Asian, because then he likes Latinas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/17 11:08 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Cheating is always a woman's faultOf course. He should not have gotten married in the first place :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/17 03:49 AM |
| 3 | [Discussion] Man signs letters with his female colleague's name for two weeks and finds out clients have less respect for a woman's authority.http://imgur.com/gallery/llcctTi | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/17 03:08 PM |
| 4 | [Discussion] Man signs letters with his female colleague's name for two weeks and finds out clients have less respect for a woman's authority.Trump tells its female employees... Can't tell if dissing Trump, or being extra-respectful by not assuming his gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/17 02:43 PM |
| 1 | What if Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton had swapped genders?Look at the article that OP linked. At the top is a photo of what looks to be the actual performance -- the female Trump dressed in red at the forefront, the male Clinton leaning against the podium in the background, the moderator on the right, and a TV screen showing the female Trump from a different perspective. It's reasonable to assume the actual performance was taped. But, there is more. In OP's article, there is a link to another, under the word "observed". The other article is at https://… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 06:17 PM |
| 1 | If physiological differences between men and women are the "glass ceiling" that prevents true equality, then will cybernetic augmentation be the hammer that break the glass?this is cultural. Maybe. Or maybe it's all biological. Or, most likely, a mixture of both, but to what degree I cannot say. It's the centuries-old nature vs. nurture debate. You mentioned India. I have a STEM degree, and there were many Indians in my classes (in the US). The boys still outnumbered the girls, maybe by 4 or 5-to-1. Where would one find occupation statistics, broken down by gender, for India, China, and pre-revolution Iran? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 06:06 PM |
| 3 | What if Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton had swapped genders?I had almost the same impression of the debates as you. Trump was rude, Clinton was fake. I would not say Trump's dumb -- he seems to be dumbing down his message on purpose, so even a five year old can understand. But even without that, he is no great orator. I voted for Trump. However, just like you, I am tired! I am tired of the accusations of sexism, racism, fascism, the protests, the conspiracy theories (on both sides), the leaks, the memes, all of it. And there is no end in sight... Maybe t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 05:44 PM |
| 5 | What if Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton had swapped genders?There are two things going on here. That is, indeed, the only clip that's available, and that everybody online is talking about. From the comments that I've read (at an admittedly biased, pro-Trump place), people do seem to find the woman more likeable. To me personally, the man just seems creepy, constantly smiling, while the woman, although she interrupts him and is a bit rude, gets straight to the point. But I can understand that some people would not like her. However, the conclusion that th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 05:21 PM |
| 1 | If physiological differences between men and women are the "glass ceiling" that prevents true equality, then will cybernetic augmentation be the hammer that break the glass?Men and women are not just different physiologically. We are different psychologically as well. Most high-paying jobs do not require physical strength. In fact, I would guess that a vast majority of jobs do not require hard physical labor. We've "outsourced" a lot of that to machines already. For some reason, many more men than women choose to pursue STEM degrees, while many more women than men choose gender studies... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 05:13 PM |
| 6 | What if Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton had swapped genders?The video you're seeing is not the full show. It's a short clip from a rehearsal. So where is the full show, you might ask? It seems they removed it because the audience did not reach the conclusion that the show's makers hoped for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 05:05 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Hesitance about women with slutty past is more about insecurity than anything elseSexual adventure can happen even if she's had other adventures. And I, too, can pretend to be interested in the patterns on the curtains. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/17 11:03 AM |
| 15 | CMV: Hesitance about women with slutty past is more about insecurity than anything elseHey, honey, wanna go to Europe this summer? Nah, I've already been there. Ok, what about Japan? Also been. What about somewhere in South America? I dunno. I've done a lot of traveling in the past, it's sort of lost its appeal. So what do you want to do for fun? Well, tonight there is a movie on Lifetime about a career woman who leaves her misogynistic millionaire husband and finds love with a young artist. I wanna catch that. OK, but I mean, what do you want to do for fun in general? Nothing, sw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/17 06:24 AM |
| 2 | How exactly would you respond to this pro-life argument?Not an answer to your question. More of a suggestion to think about the issue in a different way. Whenever abortion is discussed, it's almost always within the framework of rights. The discussion tends to be about the rights of the mother vs. the rights of the unborn fetus. Or about the freedoms that women should have. Or it's about some kind of mythical human rights. Or about liberty itself. Of course, we all like rights. We all like choices. We all, almost instinctively, want more freedom and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/17 02:53 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Although most men have a higher sex drive than women, most do not have 'sadistic extreme rape fantasies' like women do.Men watch women fuck dogs and homeless dudes and drink insect milkshakes and public humiliation, etc. You mean, you watch women fuck dogs and homeless dudes and drink insect milkshakes and public humiliation, etc? :) Have you ever heard of efukt? I have now! Thank you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 05:57 PM |
| 9 | Would it have been better if Hillary won for dating in general?Simple. For people other than his die-hard supporters, he was the lesser of two evils. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 12:40 PM |
| 3 | Is sex/relationships even worth it anymore for women?I got such a strong sense of deja vu from this! It's a great list, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 12:07 PM |
| 14 | Would it have been better if Hillary won for dating in general?I agree with you that the Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin. I don't agree with anything else. Trump is pretty much an Independent, so much so that a lot of the Republican politicians were opposed to him. He had to chose a party, because independents do not get to become presidents in the US, and he chose the Republicans. I think if Hillary had won, there would only be more division between the sexes. There would be an expansion of Title IX and Dear Colleague Letter bullsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 11:57 AM |
| 7 | MGTOW is faultyStep 1) Hit the gym. Step 2) Learn the difference between "there", "their" and "they're". Step 3) Learn proper grammar and use of commas. Step 4) Learn to separate your writing into paragraphs. Step 5) Learn to organize your thoughts, so you don't sound incoherent to yourself and others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 10:14 PM |
| 1 | Is family a social construct?We do seem to be talking past each other, unfortunately. Me and /u/SoruSoranAdam on the one side (we seem to be in agreement on this issue) and you on the other. It is true that just because something is common, it is not necessarily natural. However, monogamy is more than just common. It is the dominant form of human relationships for all people, and throughout all of recorded history. Polygyny is a small second. Everything else is but a footnote. It is possible that marriage, as an institution… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/16 10:39 AM |
| 2 | Is family a social construct?If human beings did not have an innate, biologically-based drive towards monogamy, then we would expect to observe all kinds of variations of sexual relations in different societies. We do not. We see an overwhelming majority practice monogamy, with a sprinkling of polygyny, and a handful of isolated cases of polyandry. The few cases of polyandry seem to have reasonable explanations: they are adaptations to the local environment. Yes, human beings are adaptable. And biological drive does not mea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Is family a social construct?With regard to the first link: Marriage In Polynesia, the concept of marriage as we in the West consider it, did not exist. For Chiefly families marriages were tactical, but all marriages could be absolved with little or no ceremony. The real bonds that held two people together in Polynesia were emotional, or involved the bond of family, as family was the glue of all Pacific societies. However, attitudes to fidelity varied across Polynesia. In Eastern Polynesia, female infidelity was tolerated a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 01:32 PM |
| 3 | Is family a social construct?Give source, I don't know which societies you are talking about. Also, from what I have read, just about every society practices monogamy. It might not be life long, but just for a number of years, until children grow up to be semi-independent. But it's still monogamy. So, even if there are some cultures that do not, they would be a tiny exception. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 12:37 PM |
| 0 | Is family a social construct?I don't even know what he/she means by natural... And yet, you clearly know what is unnatural. ...why it's better. Because doing unnatural things has the potential to lead to problems. It's like forcing something that should not be. As humans, we do all kinds of unnatural things, like wearing shoes, or living in air-conditioned houses, and it's mostly just fine. So, this doesn't mean we should never do unnatural things, just that we should realize there might be consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 12:33 PM |
| 1 | Is family a social construct?/u/SipsSparklingWater is saying that you are wrong when you say homosexuality is not natural. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 12:27 PM |
| 3 | Is family a social construct?Is love a social construct? Is jealousy a social construct? They seem to be biologically ingrained in people. So, to answer your question, mostly no. Monogamy seems to be the normal state for human beings. At most, human beings might be slightly polygynous (one man:several women. Not to be confused with polygamous, polyandrous, or polyamorous). However, wives are expensive. Children even more so. So most men pair up with (at most) one woman (at a time). The way we treat marriage now, and the way… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/16 12:25 PM |
| 10 | What beliefs do you hold that differ from your "tribe"?I do not believe in most of TRP conspiracy theories. No, there isn't a liberal socialist agenda to destroy the nuclear family. It's just people being stupid, acting out of greed, being too idealistic, and judging policies by their intentions, rather than practical outcomes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/16 03:20 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] Swallowing the red pill reveals a mirageYes, we have all heard your "bio-truths" before. You say that as though truth is a dirty word. Also, I sincerely doubt that "all" have heard this. I do not post very often. There is a reason humanity evolved from carrion eating on the savannas to app-producing in Silicon Valley. We made a choice... We are not all app-producing geniuses. Far more people work as greeters in Walmart, or some such other mind-numbing thing. More importantly, this was not a choice. Some 12,000 years ago, an ice age en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 08:33 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] Swallowing the red pill reveals a mirageIt probably is not as simple as that, I agree. However, nut and berries are seasonal. Meat, for people who lead a nomadic lifestyle and follow animal migrations, should be a fairly constant thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 07:50 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] Swallowing the red pill reveals a mirage...one of the reasons why feminism started was the industrial revolution. I think you have it backwards. In the sense that, if you are saying that feminism started as a response to the oppression of women during/after the industrial revolution. Feminism is a luxury that we can indulge in because of the industrial revolution. Imagine you're in a group project in school (should be a common-enough experience for just about everybody). It is a big project that will take many weeks to complete. There… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 03:52 PM |
| 2 | Men: what is a mixed or contradictory signal you receive from the wider society about gender or romance that you feel one of the pills helps explain or sort out for you?I did it! It was hard, but I did it! The latest studies, ranging in date from 1991 to 1999, quote the following incidence rates: 4.0% (Canada), 2.8% (France), 1.4% and 1.6% (UK), and 11.8% (Mexico), 0.8% (Switzerland). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternity_fraud | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/16 06:30 PM |
| 2 | Isn't Evolutionary Psychology just pseudoscience?Its about the survival as the species as a whole. It's going to sound like I'm nit-picking, but it is an important distinction (as far as I understand it, at least). Evolution is not about the survival of the species as a whole. It is about survival of individual genes. If the survival of an individual member of the species helps the genes survive (as it normally does), then this gets selected for. If the survival of the species itself helps the genes survive, then this also gets selected. But t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/16 02:41 AM |
| 0 | Milo Yiannopoulos VS Two Feminists!Dearest creature in creation, Studying English pronunciation, I will teach you in my verse Sounds like corpse, corps, horse and worse... https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Chaos | /r/MensRights | 11/07/16 10:42 AM |
| 38 | What does The Red Pill actually offer that I can't find somewhere else?This gets brought up a lot. Here is my take on it, with an example: Somebody tells me I should exercise. Yes, I should, but it doesn't motivate me. Somebody tells me I should exercise because it is good for my health. Yes, I already knew that, but it still does not motivate me. Somebody tells me I should exercise because it will make me feel better. Again, I know, but I'm still not exercising. Somebody tells me I should exercise because it will make me more attractive. I already suspected as muc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/16 06:57 AM |
| 3 | What about AMALT ?To add to this: AWALT is a generalization. We could rephrase it to say 80% of women are like that. Or, majority of women are like that. Or, that women have a propensity to behave in such and such manner. No, not every single woman is exactly like that, but people's collective experience tells them that it is very common. AWALT is a warning -- always be on guard, because there's a very high chance that she is like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/15 01:52 PM |
| 9 | What about AMALT ?Yes, AMALT. One of the differences between AWALT and AMALT is that society at large is well aware about AMALT. We teach our children about it, girls and boys. For example, for girls: "he just wants you for sex". Or, "don't put out so fast, because he will lose respect for you." And for boys, we admonish them to be gentlemen. AMALT -- men have a dual mating strategy. There are girls men just fuck, and there are girls good enough to marry. Girls are warned about this. Men are discouraged from enga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/15 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Questioning Science, The Red Pill Edition - The Parental Investment Theory...women have no externally discernible signs of infertility (aside from age). Not quite. Pregnant or nursing women are not fertile. Being fat (big belly) implies being pregnant. There's a hypothesis that the reason women have wide hips, and men find it attractive, is because it makes the belly look relatively thin in comparison. Are you suggesting that a man have would no preference between two women of identical age and health? I am suggesting that a man would be less discriminating when chosi… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/01/15 01:44 AM |
| 2 | Why Are Indian Men Perceived as Emasculated Beta When There's a Huge Gang Rape Culture in India? Should They Be Perceived as Violent Alpha?Your point number 3 is spot on. The indian immigrants tend to be the cream of their society, so they're not really representative of those who engage in gang-rape. I think there are also two other forces at play. First, males are more valued in the culture, so there is a gender imbalance similar to china. See this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_states_and_territories_ranking_by_sex_ratio Second, pornography is illegal in india (and the types of people who engage in gang-rape are unlikely t… | /r/TheRedPill | 03/01/15 02:02 PM |
| 6 | Questioning Science, The Red Pill Edition - The Parental Investment TheoryIn short, low parental investment does not mean zero parental investment. Human babies take a very long time to mature, and a lot of resources to raise, and a man can increase the likelihood of his offspring surviving to adulthood, and spreading his genes, by helping raise it. The female dual mating strategy (Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks) is very often discussed here. Men, however, also have a dual mating strategy. It is sometimes called the Madonna/Whore dichotomy, or more simply, there are girls you… | /r/TheRedPill | 03/01/15 01:53 PM |
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