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NAH, SISdragoness_leclerq/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 08:34 AM
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Question for RedPilldragoness_leclerq/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 02:41 AM
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Discussiondragoness_leclerq/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 01:40 AM
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MALE DEPRAVITYdragoness_leclerq/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/03/22 08:39 AM
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NAH, SISdragoness_leclerq/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 07:51 AM
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When have you seen this happen??
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 08:59 PM
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I feel like people just assume that because of the age-gap, the abuse automatically went in one direction when it seems obvious to myself and many others that it was actually the opposite. Having dated narcs and having grown up with at least one borderline narc and one physically and emotionally abusive parent, I can 100% relate to his outbursts. They will fuck with you endlessly, constantly poking and prodding until they get an outburst or reaction then all of a sudden it's "OMG, I can't believ…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/04/22 10:27 AM
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cluster Bs met and matched. ESH. My thoughts exactly.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/04/22 10:11 AM
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"The Wall" is, always was and forever will be nothing more than a fearmongering tool of the patriarchy meant to scare women into frightened submission.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/04/22 11:17 AM
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Meh. Idk if I like the idea of a willingness to perform a sex act being tied to dating or the sexual market value of an induvial tbh. Frankly it's this kind of thinking that leads men to believe women OWE THEM anal or threesomes, etc just for behaving a certain way.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/04/22 08:33 AM
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Men are always thinking of you as less than a full functioning human being, especially when they get sexual access to you with little effort. And if they DO start seeing a woman as a fully functioning human being they run. Having to reckon with the fact that their bangmaid has thoughts, emotions and an entire life outside of their bedroom reminds them that she has agency which ruins the fantasy.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/04/22 06:51 AM
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I had to learn this lesson the hard way but it's true as hell! All most of these old(er) men want is a young hot Mommy McBangMaid, future nanny and potential hospice nurse.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/04/22 03:52 AM
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People were blaming Ariana Grande because she dated him before, saying that she should have “helped him” while they were in a relationship. Oh god I remember that!! It's unfortunate that what ultimately saved her was the fact that she had millions of very loyal stans of her own who were able to beat back that narrative and be VERY LOUD about the fact that he was a grown man, they weren't even together and his sobriety was NOT her responsibility.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/03/22 08:32 AM
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men see themselves in kanye, they might not have his money/fame/musical talent but they believe men should have the right to harass their ex if they move onto another partner. This is exactly it. They downplay, excuse and sympathize with his behavior under the guise of "But he's a musical genius" when in reality it's because they can 100% relate to his sense of entitlement. They too believe that if a woman chooses to leave, it's a man's right to harass, abuse and publicly humiliate her.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/22 07:52 AM
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I wish more people would be ashamed of their sons and help their daughter in law out, My paternal grandma only started to see the truth about her son when she (and my aunt) threw my mom a graduation party to celebrate getting her Master's and my dad was too busy getting high somewhere to show up. She didn't like my mom but 100% felt putting on a big party showcasing her son's wife's success would impress our community and put him in a favorable light. Now my grandma still coddled and infantilize…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/03/22 06:54 AM
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Lmao this was my first thought.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/22 06:52 AM
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Are you new here, hun?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/02/22 02:31 AM
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Could be fake for sure but Hennessy is one of those drinks people swear turns them into incredible freaks so her mentioning it makes sense.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 10:51 PM
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I just find it odd he would spoil her and then practically ignore her. Okay so my take is, OP not participating (aka doing anything with her friend) and basically presenting this as an opportunity for him to get his jollies with another girl is what got her ignored.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 10:49 PM
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The coldest part about the situation is that her bf NEVER asked or so much as even HINTED AT wanting a threesome. He was perfectly fine with their "vanilla" sex life but she wanted to "spice things up" I guess just for the sake of being able to call herself "kinky". He spent Valentine's Day spoiling OP with gifts and attention and in turn her "gift" was to surprise him with a threesome he didn't ask for. Now she's mad that he enjoyed the "sex toy" she gave him a lil too much. Everything about th…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 08:36 AM
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OMG, I'm so sorry I didn't know! Give me a sec to delete and reupload.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 08:23 AM
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It's all a fearmongering grift meant to con young women and girls into dating and marrying old men and scare 'older' (25+ women) into lowering their (perfectly reasonable) standards and "settling" for far less than they deserve.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 08:21 AM
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The coldest part about the situation is that her bf NEVER asked or so much as even HINTED AT wanting a threesome. He was perfectly fine with their "vanilla" sex life but she wanted to "spice things up" I guess just for the sake of being able to call herself "kinky". He spent Valentine's Day spoiling OP with gifts and attention and in turn her "gift" was to surprise him with a threesome he didn't ask for. Now she's mad that he enjoyed the "sex toy" she gave him a lil too much. Everything about th…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 08:10 AM
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He was jealous of her job Ehh...Maybe, maybe not. Sometimes belittling a woman's job/career/profession is a negging tactic.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/02/22 09:19 AM
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Don’t be shy, drop his IG handle. This is a screenshot of quotes from a video but his name is Glendon Cameron.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/02/22 06:05 AM
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The real question is why would a woman stay with a man who is bad at sex? Because women are largely taught that we're extremely difficult to please sexually and that female orgasms during sex are uncommon/hard to achieve anyway so tolerating bad sex is perfectly fine. It doesn't help that we generally DO need more than just straight up penetration to get off and all vaginas are different so there is no real benefit to IMMEDIATELY dropping a man who is 'bad at sex' because it doesn't automaticall…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/22 11:07 AM
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I feel like she’s only doing this because when she was 18, she was preyed upon [...] and never really got a chance to experience life. This is about where I'm at with things, however I don't lay 100% of the blame on her ex husband alone. She was a VERY young starlet whom many men preyed upon even before Brian Austin Green got his hooks into her. I try to be mindful of this because while I find her behavior and exhaustingly PUBLIC relationship with MGK to be childish and sophomoric, I "get" that …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/01/22 08:10 AM
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They won't go to an actual sex worker because they're in love with the fantasy of making a random woman prostitute herself for them and them alone. An actual sex worker is a bridge too far because so much of the fantasy is about having the power/wealth/charm (etc) to convince some unassuming woman who "doesn't normally do this type of thing" to actually DO that type of thing.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/20 09:10 AM
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Stalker? Uh no, your whining came directly to my inbox, try again bitter bro.. Or better yet fuck off, you're neither smart nor interesting enough to have a spirited debate with so this has become boring.
/r/MGTOW27/05/18 09:01 AM
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Lmaooo are you STILL whining? Fuck off bitch baby, nobody cares.
/r/MGTOW26/05/18 09:55 PM
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And yet I'm STILL a mod. Listen babe, your worthless opinions of me mean so little that I couldn't even be bothered to reply until I had some spare time. Idgaf what you and your fellow dry-dicked loser comrades have to say about me either, you went to a whole other sub to cry about the shit I said. How fucking pathetic.
/r/MGTOW26/05/18 10:46 AM
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Whoa wait wtf!? I never fucked with his music when he was here (cause I thought I was too old for that shit) but this is definitely getting bumped in my actual Benz for the next couple months. I'd give you gold for opening my eyes but you can't buy drugs with that bullshit so send me your Venmo!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 01:38 PM
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Well, I've made and appearance anyway,
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 01:29 PM
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Hey girl, HEY! ♥
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 01:25 PM
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Why is light slapping okay but regular slapping or hair pulling is "dirty and disgusting"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 02:35 PM
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Hi! 😌 god I love your name now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 01:56 PM
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My friends were all also claiming to be like totally sexually active and I wanted to fit in. Turns out, just 1 (ONE!) girl in our group of 5 (sometimes 6) actually lost their virginity before 17-19. We watched and wanted to mirror the movie 'Thirteen' like lots of other dumb girls in mid-2000s SoCal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 10:29 AM
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Well, I certainly lied about losing my virginity at 14...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 09:56 AM
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Hiiiiii bby!!!! ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 08:23 AM
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Well, what kind of woman would I be if I weren't?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:02 AM
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Oh, bless your heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 04:45 AM
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This is exactly right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 04:31 AM
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LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:14 PM
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Lol, oh dear god no.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:13 PM
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I was just looking at this thread like who the fuck are these people!?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:28 AM
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This is the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 09:07 PM
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Who said anything about "greatness" (that's your insecurities talking). Are you suggesting women get with men they're incompatible with or not attracted to just because? Like, what are you even trying to say right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 03:45 PM
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I'm still in my 20s and I'm still not settled down. However, I've had 2 LTRs (well, one major, one minor), but things didn't work out and I never want to make those mistakes again so I'm taking my time and focusing on myself. Part of that is traveling and yes, working on my finances and mental health. I've spent some time dating with the idea of finding a serious mate here and there but gave up and went back to working on myself and figuring out what it is I actually want in a mate rather than j…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:48 PM
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Oh, you. 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:40 PM
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Meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:39 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with it. These days, a young woman who enters her 20s with the idea of finding a lifemate is going to be hard pressed to find a suitable partner anyway, so why not wait? Many women wait till their late 20s-early 30s to marry NOT because they're too busy riding the CC, but because they want to establish themselves in their own right, be it in their careers or as individuals. That doesn't sound like a bad thing to me. A lot of women use their 20s to do more than "have fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 08:41 AM
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This is such a hamster it's ridiculous. It has 0 monetary value, but it has some value. ?? The word priceless exists for a reason. Everything can be exchanged for money. No it can't. Ask a parent what dollar amount they'd put on their child's life and they'd probably kick you in the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:00 AM
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Hahaha, god I've missed you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:58 AM
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Then when they can't ride anymore, return to their interest in commitment, marriage and family, claiming that's what they wanted all along. How conveeeeeenient. I don't understand what you're trying to say here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 09:40 PM
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😍
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 01:10 AM
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but if a politician is speaking directly to your core life problem that seems like a strong incentive to switch. "Core life problems" like what? They go out of their way to look unsavory. You sure? Or was/is that just a cover story? Because to me that sounds a whole lot like that bullshit "haha, joke's on you I was just PRETENDING to be retarded" meme. None of those things are inherent to trp. Even on the board itself those ideas are controversial. When people say things like this I just assume …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 10:25 AM
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Guys on TRP aren't blindly believing everything they read, because no one does that on the internet anymore LOL, why so gullible? People still believe tons of shit they read online. "Fake news", anyone? Try it, and make your own conclusion. Plenty of TRP guys have done this, and said it works for them. Yeah. I'll bet they have. At any rate, after nearly 4 years, in all my interactions with red pillers (both on AND off line), nothing has really convinced me that most of them are success stories. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 09:48 AM
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Damn, I expected better from you of all people. I'm so sick of hearing this shit recently. It's like I don't come around for a while and people act like what I'm saying is somehow different. You propose that red pillers are just such men, because ...reasons. Next you find out that one red piller is like that I'm not proposing red pillers are all like that and certainly not "just because" or based on one person. I'm saying that X type of men IRL talk and act like that, then certain red pillers ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 09:40 AM
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There's way more disgruntled "betas" than subscribers to trp. And many of them still vote democrat and always will. Each one could potentially be seduced by some trp ideas. Sure, and this has happened time and again. The thing is, for however "disgruntled" these betas might be, they still don't all subscribe to everything TRP says or advocates. Yeah it might seem appealing to subscribe to TRP ideologies for a time, but there's a reason why TRP has only grown to barely 200k subscribers after all …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 10:07 AM
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Why wouldn't they want to? You realize that TRP and those who support their ideologies are still just a drop in the bucket, right? The GOP isn't looking to appeal to "a large swath", they're looking to appeal to as much of a majority as they can. They're also looking to appeal to X group, while still not pissing off Y or Z group. That TRP "speaks to a lot of men" even is up for debate. What is "a lot" anyway? I mod bullshit subs that have more subscribers than they do. TRP is just, like I said, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:51 AM
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So, basically, attractive men are allowed to say whatever they want, but unattractive men should know their place and keep their mouths shut? No, I think it's more like, there are a lot of men going around claiming to be highly attractive cunthounds who are sexually successful with women left and right and know all the secrets to getting laid, how women really work, etc. However, all this is taken at face value and without any sort of confirmation of how attractive or successful they actually ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:23 AM
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I'm sorry but, this really is pretty clear confirmation. In the real world I've seen many men with these exact same issues, statements and ideologies and none of them were nearly as attractive or successful as they either thought or wished they were. I still gave TRPs the benefit of the doubt because hey, I've never met every man on earth right? But the fact that the whole thing was founded by exactly such a man blows any sort of reservation of judgment right out of the water. This, in conjuncti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:06 AM
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I think trp speaks to a lot of guys and that might be a reasonable way for the gop to orient itself. Why would they do that? It's exactly how Trump got elected....but also exactly why he probably won't be reelected. The men that TRP speaks to (or was created by for that matter) are not what the GOP wants or needs, so why would they "orient itself" to accommodate or appeal to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:00 AM
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What does feminism have to do with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 01:32 AM
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It enables women to not have to settle, which means more and more men are left with nothing, or they have settle. And, so? That's what women had to do for centuries. You seem perfectly happy that Non-Chads are killing themselves due to this shit. I'm not happy about it, I'm simply indifferent. Much like you're indifferent to the suffering women had to endure when they were forced into a lifetime of commitment and sex with men they didn't want. It's a little weird you're trying to shame me for no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 01:27 AM
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Giving women the ability to support themselves instead of relying on a man, allows her hypergamy to run wild and now her SMV/RMV equivalent is no longer good enough. It allows her hypergamy to run wild? Or does it allow her the freedom not to have to settle for some schlub with a bad comb over she was never and would never be attracted to just to have a roof over her head? Because I seem to see a fair number of women who are perfectly fine dating their SMV/RMV equivalent. They just refuse to go …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 04:28 PM
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You're not going to be Atlas by being born with a penis. You're damn right!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 04:01 PM
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Which they won't even do anymore I wonder why..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 03:47 PM
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Then they shouldnt get the benefits of being men, like having money/education/power. Those are not benefits exclusive to men. No one ~took~ anything from men when they gave women the ability to go to college or have their own money. But, due to womens fucked up biology and standards LOL. You want to talk about fucked up biology and standards? Men are biologically programmed to be violent, homicidal and sexually promiscuous, all while having a desire to fuck young teenage girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 03:44 PM
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Maybe you don't feel resentment personally, but it's been made abundantly clear that it's exactly what some of these men are feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 03:37 PM
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How so? It's poisoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 03:24 PM
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women find normal men uninteresting and boring What does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 03:14 PM
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How?? If you're dehydrated and the only thing available to you is water from a poisoned well, that water is now an "option"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 02:57 PM
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Imagine I'm sad about something and you are like "yeah, that sucks, the same happened to me before". This response is awkward for at least 3 reasons: No, you've over-analyzing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 09:52 PM
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Oh, I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:57 PM
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but aren't you supposed to relate about the good stuff, not the bad stuff? "Supposed to" according to who? People bond over sadness or tragedy all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:56 PM
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I'm not sure what you were trying to get at, but you didn't link anything I said so...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:14 AM
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Congratulations, I guess? Not really sure why you felt the need to tell me that but okay...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:08 AM
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What? I'm not the one who posited that men put in less effort because they "don't care as much", so try again sweetheart.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:04 AM
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Wtf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 06:51 AM
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You're correct, you didn't explicitly state that "understanding" would help these sad losers get laid, but you did say it would help them feel better. Meanwhile, the majority of sad losers claim that getting laid would help them feel better. I guess that was just me extrapolating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 05:17 AM
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Your obsession with lesbians bores me to tears. Try a new argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 05:14 AM
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I don't understand how this is the "wrong argument". You said that it wasn't until social media that it mattered yet you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 05:13 AM

From what I remember, you've always sucked and still do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 05:11 AM
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Oh honey no, I'm just the medevag. I airlift the homely women to thirsty men in desperate need.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 05:10 AM
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The majority of these girls aren't attractive. Some are fat, some are thin, some have small butts, some have big round ones, etc. I mean, I live in L.A. so meh. I know those kinds of girls and they are far from being fat or homely or whatever. It's exactly the reason why they have access to so many hot, quality men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 05:03 AM
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No thats not the same as never having a date into your thirties. And this women was a lawyer so, you would assume at least a bear minimum of intelligence. It sounds like she was at least trying to relate to you on some level with regards to loneliness or whatever. Sorry she wasn't a middle aged Asian virgin or some shit but it appears she was doing her best. I hope the men in this thread whining about ~understanding~ soak this shit in. Here you have a woman trying to be understanding and the guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 03:58 AM
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Well by all means, please explain, because I'm having a hard time seeing how ~understanding~ translates to more men getting laid. Plenty of us know full well a lot of men out there have it rough, still doesn't make us drop our panties for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 03:53 AM
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It's like being a company owner doing interviews for a job: you are in a better position than all those applicants but you regard them as sloppy, unreliable and undeserving of that position and you have no use for their offers. This is the perfect analogy because it's exactly like that. There are millions of fat, boring, underemployed and balding men out there who would just love to date and marry some cute young chick......but what good does that do the cute young chick? Is an ~option~ really a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 03:52 AM
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the ones rolling up joints on 420, ray-bans, short-shorts, going to Coachella, going to Cabo in spring break, partying it up in the frats, going to EDM concerts etc. etc. So, like someone else up-thread said....it appears TRP is only looking at the most attractive and outgoing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 03:49 AM
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Huh? Women were always more socially adept.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 03:46 AM
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most people aren't entirely rational. Wait, but I thought men were paragons of rationality
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 03:46 AM
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Eh. maybe guys don't care like women do. That's fine. But then they shouldn't complain when people who put in more effort and care more get better results. How about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 03:42 AM
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women have insane standards, Nah, not really. Most women are pretty reasonable; it's just that the men who are complaining can't even meet those.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 03:33 AM
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I am convinced that yes, it would. You mean like, sympathy pussy?? Because I "get" that it's harder for men in many respects yet I'm still not even remotely tempted to fuck them because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 03:31 AM
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Nah, it's pretty clear she got the point of this post. I suspect that she - like I - still has difficulty understanding how such a rationale makes sense in the minds of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 03:30 AM
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It doesn't matter whether you can control it or not. No one bases their attraction on things people can or cannot control.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 03:49 AM
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Hahaha, oh fuck, this is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 03:45 AM
1

That's good to hear!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 10:11 PM
2

You don't have to "ask permission" in order to have consensual sex. I assure you men were not going around openly and freely raping any woman they pleased since the dawn of men until recent years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 07:16 PM
1

Skid Row is a tiny corner of DTLA.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 07:14 PM
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How are you going to stop them? Anytime a morality/accountability/whatever thread like this pops up this is always my first thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 10:49 AM
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No. Again, where are you getting this from? 4th grade social studies??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 10:46 AM
2

Jesus christ, THANK YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 10:45 AM
2

most mating on the mass scale was done by conquering armies looting women from other people No, it really wasn't. Where are you getting this from?? As for the high-T chad, do you think "high t chads" didn't fight and lose in these wars and battles for domination? So? What does this have to do with what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 10:45 AM
1

Biological how?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 10:42 AM
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Okay. I was just in Watts and Compton earlier today. Still didn't see "shit and bodies" everywhere, so......
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 10:41 AM
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Okay, where else?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 11:28 PM
4

Where? Syria?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 10:12 PM
2

Which is why there should be legal or social consequences for women who engage in serial monogamy/having kids with multiple men/no fault divorce. Like what? Name some.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 10:12 PM
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Well, it's also a fact of life that for the vast majority of human history, female consent never mattered. Men fought other men, and the winner got all the women whether they liked it or not And this is really how you think human mating operated for everyone all the time for "the vast majority of human history"?? If women ruining their family to sleep with a stranger who is better looking or whatever is legal and ok, What? First of all, where are all these people "excusing" female infidelity or …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 10:10 PM
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Who's blaming the victim? I said MAYBE. Funny how WHAT never seems to apply to women? You want to blame some women for some shit, go for it little buddy, I'm not stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 07:31 AM
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I doubt all ~the feminists~ took his side. Then again, maybe you were just an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 06:58 AM
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My point was, I totally went overboard - and probably so did you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 06:45 AM
3

The grapes in this thread are so sour I could make wine for a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 03:58 AM
3

I beat the shit out of a Stacy in high school after years of bullying and they put me in handcuffs, suspended me for 5 days and I had to do 6 months of anger management. Stacy got an apology from the principal and the asst. dean (she was suspended for 2 days however). I thought it was unfair and only saw it as the school siding with the popular kid over a loser but years later I realized that honestly wasn't it at all. I was punished more harshly because well fuck, I really tried to kill that li…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 03:54 AM
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Thanks! in other words, you redpilled too hard, no one likes it LOL. Man, maybe that really is the issue. Some of these responses are blowing my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 05:14 AM
2

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 04:58 AM
2

I'm finding such great music in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 04:44 AM
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At no point did I say I never actually listened to the lyrics. The point is, usually by the time I start paying attention I already like it. However I clearly did mention that lyrics are heard, and then immediately dismissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 04:34 AM
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Okay first of all, I'm amazed I never heard that song before. Second, OH MY GOD I FUCKING LOVE IT! The song + the video are instant favorites, so glad you linked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 04:02 AM
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No...most people I know, actually know the song lyrics. Cool story, me too.... It's like going to a restaurant, ordering the dessert, and never taking a bite. Jesus christ reddit, I thought I articulated myself fucking pretty clearly and thoroughly in my initial post. Meanwhile....of course people are being obtuse and pulling shit like this. Where did I ever say oh people don't know the lyrics to songs at all, tee hee......?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 05:38 PM
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But he is talking about you... which is hilarious to me. Uh.....they're not talking about anyone specifically, and certainly not ALL women. So who is this "you", you speak of??
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 05:33 PM
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/s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 05:23 PM
3

While I appreciate those who can be honest about who and what they are, I'm not quite sure why you felt the need to post your comment as a reply to mine..
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 05:18 PM
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When I find a song that sounds good, first thing I do is look up the lyrics. I want to understand it in its entirety. ......but, you recognize this isn't the norm right? Anyway, sure people care about or are interested in lyrics, but as I said in my initial reply, I suspect most of them don't start doing this until after they already like the song.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 05:14 PM
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Fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 05:12 PM
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For example, Taylor Swift - Shake It Off is immensely popular worldwide ............Yeah, because she's a pop icon and it had a catchy melody. because her lyrics Lmao. Yeah, it was those oh so deep and meaningful lyrics... The popularity of that song had fuck all to do with it's actual meaning or relatability. Most people aren't young, famous pop stars nor do they have "haters". Yet that's mainly what the song was about. everyone feels good from hearing it, and so 2 billion views makes sense. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 05:11 PM
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Probably not because there would be too much media outrage surrounding it. BUT, if it was catchy, creatively worded (as in, didn't outright SAY shit about killing babies) and had a good beat, it's not unlikely it would become popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 03:54 PM
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Calling women bitches in music, or hoes, or talking about fucking and dumping them is so common place that it no longer really registers THANK YOU. It honestly doesn't even register to me at this point. Listen to enough of certain genres and you become pretty indifferent to all kinds of lyrics. Get two minutes into every third Florida trap song and you'll hear something about selling coke at a young age or dumping some snitch's body in a swap. It means nothing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 03:47 PM
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Just a pure cop-out You're really trying my patience here....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 03:36 PM
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LOL, dude, just PM me your address already so I can send you one of these matching friendship bracelets!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 03:16 PM
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My point is that there's definitely some meaning to the lyrics and why you like it According to whom.....you? It's slow...but not too slow and has a good rhythm to fuck to. Plus The Weeknd's voice is sensual and sexy on that track without being whiny as so many men are on songs with a slower tempo. That's pretty much it.... It's definitely telling that you have it on your sex playlist. "Telling" how? I also have a song on that playlist about demonic possession and exorcism, and another about lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 03:01 PM
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Seeing an absence of an actual rhythm and beat in a song is not subjective. First of all, almost every song as "a beat". Whether it's one that appeals to you or not is subjective, but the existence of one isn't really up for debate. What on earth would make you think it was an objective thing? There is no fucking beat in there.. Uh, ok.... So I'm assuming you don't actually know what a "beat" is, because it's quite literally just the rhythm/cadence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 02:25 PM
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Yeah....except that was neither what I said, nor what I was implying so.....🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 01:51 PM
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So if weeknd made a track that said "kill all women and Jews" As a matter of fact I'd probably like it even more. Aaanyway, I quite clearly stated the reasons why it's easy to dismiss the lyrics of certain songs. Actually, I specifically said: At no point are any of those songs singling out one woman specifically, so why should we care? That being said, that's not really any different than me consuming and enjoying music that calls hypothetical women bitches and hoes, which I do quite a lot of..…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 01:50 PM
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This music is so lame, how can anyone listen to it... No actual rhythm or flow, no beat to speak of. You have your opinions and I have mine. I'll honestly never understand this mentality. YOU don't think it has XYZ, but clearly I do, so what's your point? Man, idk if it's just that my parents raised me extremely well or what, but I was always taught that if someone says they enjoy something (like a song or food they're currently eating), it's impolite but also really annoying to butt in and whin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 01:45 PM
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Well actually, if you really look at it, Lil Jon is basically asking African American males what reason they have to conform to certain standards of behavior and instructing them to put more stock in personal freedom than civil obedience. Essentially he is challenging blacks to defy social mores as determined by the dominant society and remain rebellious in the face of blatant oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 01:20 PM
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but you also can't exactly claim no one pays attention to the lyrics when listening to music I'm not saying this. But what I am saying is that oftentimes, the lyrics come secondary. A song with really meaningful lyrics but a terrible melody will go nowhere, but a song with absolutely gibberish lyrics and a great beat will go quite far....it's the reason people like Kodak Black even have a career, lol. and I think it's a valid question to ask why do songs with this particular theme become so popu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 12:59 PM
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Short answer: We're not paying attention to the fuckin lyrics dude. Most of the time when I first hear a song the thing that catches me is the beat and maybe the hook. I don't start hearing, I mean really hearing the lyrics until subsequent listens and by then I already like it. I loved tons of breakup or heartbreak songs well before I'd ever experienced those things. Currently I listen to a fair bit of trap music and I've never sold drugs and don't live in the hood. In fact, that sort of thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 11:36 AM
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is something that a man who states he doesn't care about N count should be ok with What?? Fucking someone's close friends and fucking random strangers are world's apart. You're being incredibly dishonest if you continue to pretend you don't see the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 08:08 PM
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Deep down they know its unappealing. Women lie about their n-count because they know and/or have been told some men don't like women with high n-counts, on that we can agree. But that's just about where our agreement ends. You seemed to be implying that women lie about n-count not just because it made them ~unappealing~ in the eyes of some men, but because they experienced some level of "shame" over it. This is further evidenced by the fact that you claimed it's something they know "deep down" -…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 10:02 AM
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She can't unless he either SAYS SO or is so ridiculously clumsy and awkward it's almost obvious.....and even then, more often than not, and certainly if he's past his mid-20s she'd just assume he was terrible in bed, but not a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 08:33 AM
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High n-count makes them unappealing. I think they know that inside, but can't admit it. Really? If it's so unappealing and something women know deep down inside then why do so many actors, athletes and billionaires (you know, men with wealth, status AND options) marry them anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:57 AM
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just opened a new West Coast office She hiring??? Does she need to meet an affirmative action quota? I tick several token boxes... 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:32 AM
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has fucked 9 of your closest friends and pulled a train with 3 of them in one night? When did the discussion turn from general n-count to "banging close friends"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 05:53 AM
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So wait, is your post about women receiving lighter sentences for sex crimes now or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 02:12 AM
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Women get lighter sentences for raping boys all the time, look it up. For statutory rape? Absolutely. But please show me the women who are forcibly raping boys or passed out drunk men. say with a straight face that if a woman had done it, she wouldn't have gotten a lighter sentence? Wellllll....it'd be pretty hard to get a lighter sentence than what Turner got so....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 02:05 AM
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Yet woman are given the same, if not more, leniency in all crimes across the board yet that elicits no outrage from feminists. How many women are brought up on charges of raping a passed out man behind a dumpster and running away when stumbled upon? I suggest next time you read the full post because nothing you said disproves any of what I said And I'd suggest you stop making bullshit "gotcha" posts under the guise of having your views changed....but we can't always get what we want now can we? …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 01:37 AM
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Nah, the outrage was more from the fact that he had sex with a blind drunk girl outside, on a bed of pinecones, BEHIND A DUMPSTER and ran away when confronted by passersby. It also came from the fact that the judge was basically like "aww, well we can't let a little thing like rape ruin this nice young man's life now can we?" All because the boy what, went to his alma mater and a few of his friends said nice things about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 01:24 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 07:17 AM
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Yes, he was trying to look less hot intentionally, but eh what can I say, I have a thing for glasses.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 12:28 AM
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I mean, I think Connor Murphy is hot as fuck (just too muscular for me) and he lacks the classic "gay face" so many supposedly Chadly men held up as paragons around here seem to have so I guess my answer would be no, he doesn't look "too gay". However, he definitely leans more toward "chiseled pretty boy" than genuinely hot, ruggedly masculine man. Especially in his youtube videos. Although I will say, he got about 10x hotter in this video as the "regular guy with glasses". But anyway, as previo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 02:44 PM
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Asian women are repulsed by men who apologize. It disgusts them. Why do asian girls dig white guys? Wait, Asian women are "repulsed" by men who "apologize" with expensive gifts??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 08:40 AM
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If he's so gorgeous why is he working there? Because being a hot man doesn't guarantee you a high paying job? Plenty of good-looking losers out there. Because women gain Rosey-tinted glasses and see a guy as beautiful when he's a model/actor. What the fuck do I care what "women" see? You asked ME personally, what I considered to be a 10/10. Don't be jelly just because I went to a college filled with rather attractive people. I could never be jealous of whatever podunk fag paradise of an unaccred…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 04:03 PM
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That's fine as fuck? Well gosh, sorry he doesn't conform to your bullshit faggy male model ideal. guys in college who were considered ugly looked better Bullshit. I think its the height that makes him ''fine as fuck'' Uh, I don't even like tall guys, so that's bullshit. And tbh I had no idea he was tall, or how tall he was; still don't actually. But why even ask me if you're just going to criticize my tastes and try to tell me it must be something other than his looks? Wtf was the point? Tattoos…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 03:27 PM
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So? He's still fine as fuck. Also, see my edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 03:20 PM
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The exists no picture of what I'd consider a 10/10 man. If/when a guy registers to me as a 9+ based on my personal tastes it's because I'm seeing him in action. Like there are actors I've considered 10/10 but *only in a particular role. Like Karl Glusman in The Neon Demon. Although for the longest time this dude has come pretty close....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 03:18 PM
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But I believe the 'truths' of the manosphere essentially result in this sort of conduct. Meh. Obviously for some, reading TRP/manospherian material results in them being rude or abrasive towards women (anger phasers), however many, many others came there that way. They were ALREADY LIKE THAT. They found these arenas because they were like that. They weren't sweet little romantics who loved and respected women only to be turned by the vampire Rollo. In my life I've encountered plenty of guys who …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:33 PM
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hostility, massive chip on his shoulder, hateful attitude, specifically mentions that he works out very early in the conversation, not very bright, completely baseless superiority complex, is being horrible and threatening towards women for absolutely no reason, is on Tinder presumably trying to 'hook up' Preeeeetty sure those kinds of men existed long before the manosphere..... Also I didn't see anything in those texts that demonstrated he was 'threatening towards women' or had a 'baseless supe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 10:29 AM
1

Damn I LOVE Wentworth! But nah, my mental image of Atlas is nothing like Pamela though. Danielle Cormack (Bea) on the other hand....totally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 08:04 AM
2

Lmao, what did you write this OP from an alt or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 07:59 AM
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I'd much rather make the 200k myself. I HATE other people being financially in control of me. I spent years only having to work if/when I wanted to because my parents paid all my rent and bills, but there were many, many strings attached. I enjoy supporting myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 04:47 AM
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Some of the guys refuse to actually use a number scale mentally. Like, they're putting numbers down, but really they're working off a weird "would DIE to fuck/wouldn't go out of my way to fuck scale". Like, I saw that one dude who rated one of the girls a 0 ಠ_ಠ. Lol for days.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 03:30 AM
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What's your idea of genuinely funny? I like dry, deadpan humor, observational humor, sarcasm and whatever it's called when someone can tell a long story in a funny way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:14 AM
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Genuinely funny men are very hard to come by in real life. Also, I don't find most popular male comedians funny, so those numbers mean nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 01:04 AM
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What? Maybe there's nothing good about being a low value man, but you damn sure don't have to be Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:56 PM
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Handsome guys can go years without ever being approached by a woman On what planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:42 PM
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There aren't a lot of them in the ghetto though, luckily. How does this relate to what I said? Please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:16 PM
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Some guy being willing to close his eyes and stick his dick into someone doesn't mean that person appeals to his tastes. Why the fuck do you people keep acting like some men wouldn't literally fuck sheep on a cold night during a dryspell?? This bullshit non-argument has gotten beyond old, please stop making it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 01:51 PM
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Online? Sure. Irl? Nah, I call bullshit. And the person i was replying to does that a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:44 AM
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The gerbiling is out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:39 AM
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No, you're hamstering worse than a campus feminist right now and it's obvious to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:38 AM
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The women you're talking to are either post wall (with post wall taste) or overweight feminists that have learned helplessness around hot guys who they know will only pump and dump them and rationalize why the skinny beta no one wants but them and therefore won't cheat is hot. OR, you know, we're just normal women? These rationalizations are getting ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:36 AM
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It's also similar to how they complain about the tastes of men. What's good for the goose Aren't men's tastes generally less varied?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:22 AM
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I think her name is Candy Charms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:14 AM
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I'm a woman, but I wanted to participate, so I'll comment here. 1) 7 2) 9.5 3) 6 face, 8+ body (so say, 7?) 4) 6.5 5) can't even rate....like she looks like a tranny freakshow and her tits are garrish. You'd have to be very "in" to that look to rate her highly. 6) 7 (possibly a 7.5) 7) 7.5 (possibly an 8 if that's your "type") 8) 8 (but again, you have to kind of be "into that" look)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:11 AM
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This is so unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:10 AM
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/r/thatHappened
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:01 AM
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How does that in any way relate to what she said?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 12:07 AM
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Damn, your 1 and 2 Chad's are just....wow. And your average guys is so cute to me I actually turned my head to the side and went "aww".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 11:58 PM
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I was like "A Chad that doesn't look gay? Ahahaaha. And yet.... :(
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 11:51 PM
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Damn, but #4 though!!! 😍😍😍
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 11:41 PM
2

Socially awkward, autistic men just aren't attractive, period. No "rationalization" needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 11:30 PM
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Is that a gay reference? Well! I think you know a little more about WeHo than you let on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 03:18 PM
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I wasn't talking about OP specifically. Read the full context of this comment chain.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 03:17 PM
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tell that to the HAES movement I have. Now what? Plus thats easy to say when you have the equivalent to free fast food Not really. A beggar who has the audacity to be picky is repulsive to almost everyone and does NOT garner much sympathy. Doesn't matter the status of the onlooker.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 02:31 PM
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Sound a lot like Loudmouth Mchardbody What? Generally speaking, 'Loudmouth Mchardbody' is neither awkward nor uncomfortable to be around, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 02:23 PM
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Oh, right on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 01:52 PM
2

"But he's nice to meeeee!" That doesn't make him not-an-asshole. Uh, yes it does. When people say "women like assholes" they're trying to say "women like men who are mean to THEM". Meanwhile most women I know couldn't give a shit how their man treats, say, random men. They only care if he's sweet to THEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 01:46 PM
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Nah. Autists are just downright awkward and uncomfortable to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 01:42 PM
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No it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 01:42 PM
3

Well for one, people with autism often can't pick up on obvious metaphors or sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 01:42 PM
2

Potentially. Wtf is a "potentially Asian male"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 01:31 PM
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It's my height, it's not that small 5'5 is short as fuck for a dude, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 01:30 PM
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but he doesnt have to be happy with the food available Then he can stave. There's nothing more ungracious or unsympathetic than a choosy beggar.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 01:23 PM
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Don't waste your time with women For sure. My guy friends in West Hollywood have said the exact same thing........
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 01:18 PM
1

Uh... why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 11:48 PM
2

Oh ty! Yeah, he's not doing it for me at all. My 7ish rating stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 10:06 PM
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No they don't. These women arent' demanding chaste, "good boys" marry them. They want guys who are NICE to THEM and hot. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 10:05 PM
1

If you work in the fashion industry I'd imagine you're obviously more adept at noticing makeup trickery than the average guy though..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 02:24 PM
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Then the weekend later flies out to Vegas, and posted pics of her at Wet Republic hugging one of the resident steroid gym no lifers. I've taken pictures standing next to hot men while on vacation or at the club. There exists one of me and some guy where he's kissing my cheek. We look quite cozy. I'd just met him 20mins prior. At no point did I fuck him or any of them. Women take pictures of themselves with men like that for the same reason men take pictures of themselves with hooters chicks or c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 02:04 PM
2

What "backlash"? You're in a debate sub, son.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 01:43 PM
2

No, but they say they want a "nice guy. " "Nice" means "nice to them" and good-looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 01:39 PM
2

The hypocrisy is that most men do not like whores who sleep around. How is that hypocritical? It would only be hypocritical if she demonstrated she wanted to live the hot girl party lifestyle while simultaneously demanding to be wifed exclusively by Good Christian Men™.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 01:38 PM
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You're right. It's clear you're salty and wanted PPD to be salty about your smoking hot coworker going out, having fun and living her life too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 01:33 PM
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She sounds pretty hot and fun to be around..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 01:33 PM
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1) 6 2) 8.5 3) 5 4) 8... (would be a 9+ maybe, but his eyebrows are over-groomed, ew) 5) 1 6) 7? (I can't really see his face) 7) 9 body, 7ish face (but again, can't really tell) 8) 3
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 09:46 AM
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LOL, I had no clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 10:43 PM
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God, who the hell rated #3 an 8 or a 9? or even a 7 for that matter? And why should anyone have felt "threatened"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:43 AM
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I don't understand. 3 is well below average on the looks scale but those women both have undeniably attractive faces. if you showed that picture to a couple chubby chasing men I'm sure you'd find a few who rated her the same. Or are you saying "lenient" when you really mean "don't conform to my personal ratings"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:29 AM
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How are they being lenient?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:11 AM
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Well known?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:10 AM
2

How's that going for you so far?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 04:55 AM
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6.8 she has cute type features She does. She also has that "classic" look. Like she would've been a 1950s beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 04:04 AM
2

But y tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 04:03 AM
1

HAHA!!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 04:02 AM
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1) 6 2) 8.5 3) 4 (5+ with her mouth closed) 4) 7.5 5) 8 6) 2 (pretty face, horrible body) 7) 9 8) 2 (pretty face, horrible body)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 02:07 AM
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Yeah, wound up meeting a guy at a lakeside club while on vacation, we danced, went down to the water to smoke, he bought me a bunch of souvenirs, hung out with me and my friends and was generally very likable and attractive. We made out on and off throughout the course of the night but after a while, he started getting a little too aggressive. At one point he bit my lip, hard and I pushed him away. He grabbed me by the arm said something like "oh stop, you know this is how you like it", I was ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 02:13 AM
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Why are you asking me stupid questions, Set?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 08:40 PM
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You are calling it out for not being the norm If I'm saying men are like this, how the hell am I "calling it out for not being the norm"?? My whole post is literally dedicated to showing that it IS the norm. WHAT is being "called out" exactly? Why would it bug you to the extent that you posted it if you were not judging the situation. What? Who's "bugged" here? If you did not think it was bad then why post? Gosh idk, I guess because I had a thought and wanted to discuss it here....on a debate su…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 10:16 AM
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Do women also compare cock sizes a lot? Nah, not in my experience anyway. Most women understand on some level that size (in exact measurements) is not the be all, end all, so comparing size is fairly meaningless. Most women who've had a handful of partners or more know this. When you put it into actual numbers, things get a bit murky. A tale is usually much less impressive if you try to throw in raw numbers. I.e., "my bf fucked me so good with his 5.5" dick I came twice". Stories about someone's…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 06:04 AM
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The question would maybe be of brand-loyalty then, rather than access to an indefinite amount of the same bottles of water. Brand-loyalty is meaningless when it comes to things like that. You could be a die hard fan of Aquafina but still get a hankering for some Perrier now and then. Or a Coke. Whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 03:58 AM
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Men should be happy with regular sex with one partner whom they are attracted to. SHOULD according to whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 03:55 AM
2

What if only once a year someone was glutinous? Gluttony is quite literally defined as habitual greed or excess. It's not just a one time or occasional thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 03:46 AM
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Most things, when done to excess tend to end badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 02:56 AM
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MOST women who go out with the intention of having a one night stand are NOT looking for a boyfriend. Casual flings and FWBs are very different animals. And even then, many women "catch feelings" without intending to and enter into such arrangements without a single bone in their bodies wanting a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 12:57 AM
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If I go to a bar with the idea of fucking the hottest guy I can find, and I subsequently fuck that guy, in which part of that scenario was I looking for a boyfriend? You don't believe women, after a few drinks and a night of sharing laughs with a guy get horny and just want to bang one out? You don't think some women come across a guy who they would otherwise in NO WAY BE INTO and do not consider relationship material, later decide they want to get laid and fuck him anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 12:57 AM
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Or they don't what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 12:47 AM
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Some do, some just brag about his sexual prowess and the size is simply implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 10:37 PM
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What on earth are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 09:08 PM
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Just go ahead and bring up the stats about lesbians now and get it over with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 04:52 PM
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Especially that part about how a ton of men will never have sex with women they are attracted too. Where did I say this, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 04:51 PM
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Because a lot of people act like men are just thirsty now because us mean bitches only put out for Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 04:51 PM
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How exactly does this work with the natural male inclination toward polygyny? Modern women just don't get it. Get WHAT?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 04:48 PM
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However, you are essentially judging men for attempting to remove the restraints on their sexuality and question it as if it is abnormal. This is a very short sighted way to see this because men are not women. I really don't know how or why you thought I was "judging" them. At no point did I say this was "bad" or wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 04:42 PM
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when I think their main concern is to make themselves feel good Yeah, when I go out in a short skirt, full face of makeup and a pair of heels that hurt I'm doing it "for me". Kek. But mind you I never said any time a woman dresses a certain type of way it is automatically FOR men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 09:10 AM
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Because you have the T levels of a common kindergarten?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 08:51 AM
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Um yeah, and Tran is a common Vietnamese surname.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 08:30 AM
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One of those hot chicks is a trap. Are you SURE about that? LOL she's definitely 100% female bruh, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 08:19 AM
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I know I am bb.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 08:07 AM
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This contradicts your point that men have unreasonable standards due to porn and excessive focus on sex. Oh no, you misunderstood. I wasn't at all claiming that. I was basically saying that men are now so exposed to a slew of attractive women at any point in time, that they're basically walking around in a constant state of horniness. I could've sworn I made that clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 07:59 AM
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So many women are not as hot as they would otherwise be And? I literally explained this in my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 07:49 AM
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But dragoness, what about the obesity epidemic? What about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 07:42 AM
2

Oh good!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 11:35 PM
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You're still not understanding. All you need is to go on a handful of dates with no spark to realize looks aren't everything and dismissing people left and right for flimsy reasons will get you nowhere. Those "options" don't start looking better because they aren't options.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 11:05 PM
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I'm saying she has infinite options to try to replace you. Yes, I'm aware of that, but as a woman who has dated men, my point is, it is very hard to actually find someone you connect with emotionally. So this idea that she has an unlimited number of options with which to replace someone with, simply does not exist in the mind of the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 10:29 PM
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Will America's extremely uneven gender ratio ever get any attention? WHAT 'extremely uneven gender ratio'? Is this the new excuse now?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 10:06 PM
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because she has infinite options now. Do you have any idea how hard it is to click with someone? I'm guessing not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 10:05 PM
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Some men have always had fat fetishes. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 09:40 PM
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Nothing. I don't give a shit what strange men say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 09:00 PM
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"I don't love you anymore."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 08:55 PM
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Oh, I already have. I just think it's sad and gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 09:42 AM
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I also think judgemental woman like yourself do carry at least a hint of envy. There's no envy here. What on earth would there be to envy? Any woman can go out and screw.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 09:32 AM
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You've already let it be known that you don't approve of promiscouity, you're welcome to explain why. Until then i'll just assume you're another bitter self rightous woman Bitter implies envy or upset I've not been afforded the same opportunities. Nope, I'm just naturally judgemental and think there are a lot of dumb people out there who make shit choices in life, and I like to make fun of them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 09:21 AM
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Oh my god, I'm so ashamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 09:06 AM

Yeah, hot people are giving a lot more leeway. News at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 08:57 AM
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You have still yet to describe to me HOW this bitterness is displayed or expressed or what about her comment seemed better. Let alone WHAT there is to be bitter about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 07:36 AM
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Well, I'd much rather you shared your own, since you posited it was "bitterness" in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 07:09 AM
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I mean, I feel you on that one. I just wonder how well that sits with the red pillers dreaming of submissive, snake handling Pentecostal girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 07:04 AM
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Why would I ask them when its YOU who is claiming it is bitterness? I'm not "bitter" and I certainly have my opinions on very promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:59 AM
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Face, cock. 25, black, West Coast, purple pill, middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:56 AM
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Why would it be "bitterness" though? What on earth would there to be bitter about?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:38 AM
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I agree with you to an extent, but my thing is, wouldn't traditional, "commitment minded" women make men wait? She could be totally into a guy but still feel like she "has to" hold off on sex, if only because she thinks he'll think less of her...or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:36 AM
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This. A girl who likes you will offer it up cos she wants to show you what is on offer. Ok, but when? I've liked and been sexually attracted to plenty of guys but didn't "present myself" for mating like some animal on NatGeo because I wanted to "show him what was on offer".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:32 AM
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How is that bitterness? Bitter about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:24 AM
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Well do you believe that promiscuity is a mistake? I don't understand, how does believing promiscuity to be a mistake mean she's bitter?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:06 AM
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I don't know, I don't consider any of the flings/STRs I had to be "mistakes, just learning experiences. I feel like "mistakes" are things that, if you had it to do all over again, you wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:05 AM
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Wouldn't this be a question best posed to feminists? At any rate, what is purpose of any march or protest? Some people feel like they want to make their displeasure with a certain situation known.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 09:25 AM
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LOL, I've needed that gif so many times, ty!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 04:08 AM
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You have yet to ask me any type of question, so either ask....something or move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 11:05 PM
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I'm just thinking out-loud/on-screen. "This person is either autistic or a lawyer with how they debate about things." Man, same here!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 10:59 PM
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What is your point? Yes, me and the other 15 women ITT saying this must just be running into the same rare handful of men that barely exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 10:56 PM
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I agree that many men are like this, as I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 10:47 PM
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What on earth are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 10:27 PM
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Was there a question in there somewhere? I've already said: Okay and that's fine, but even if that were the case, does that mean some men aren't like this? I'm confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 10:18 PM
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What stuff did I skip over? I already addressed your points in other comments to you, so what else was there for me to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 10:14 PM
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So, you flat out just parroted something you've heard other people say but have never witnessed or experienced in your life. Ok..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 10:01 PM
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What is "less than normal"? And ok, so do you mean to tell me I, and ONLY I have somehow managed to date or run into the rare few men in the world who need mothering? Even though I'm far from the only woman saying that ITT and the number of upvotes on my comment says other women here can relate to what I said. Not only that, but you personally listed women saying they don't want to mother their men as something you find to be THE MOST unattractive thing a woman can do, and while you went on to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:53 PM
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Alrighty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:42 PM
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It "implies" more than a few. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:41 PM
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Many =! "most".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:38 PM
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What hypocrisy? And if this is your way of telling me you don't find me attractive, let me do something else a lot of you guys listed as unattractive and be a cunt and tell you right now I couldn't give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:37 PM
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Where is this "continually" or "most" and all the other weird things you guys keep reading into my comments? I have to know. Quote me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:34 PM
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This is pointless now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:33 PM
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Entitled HOW? To what? What am I asking for or demanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:30 PM
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Explain to me what "well women do it too!" has to do with my initial comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:28 PM
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Or a fair number of men are just shit tier? Still, what does this change about what I ORIGINALLY said?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:27 PM
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No, but many are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:24 PM
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This has nothing to do with my comment whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:24 PM
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Ok, and?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:12 PM
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Okay and that's fine, but even if that were the case, does that mean some men aren't like this? I'm confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:11 PM
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What does this even mean? Did I ever at any point in time say all men were like this??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:03 PM
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And they call women "entitled"!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:36 PM
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"I don't want to be your mother" is code for "I want a guy to be a father for me instead." Also indicates a shit caretaker in the future if you happen to have children with them, or if you yourself get sick or something happens. This is totally untrue. When we say this the majority of us mean we literally do not want to have to take on the role of mommy for a fully grown adult at all times. Have you dated men? Do you have any idea how much many of them require babying, ego stroking and "looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:33 PM
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No, you cut them in half.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 06:23 PM
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Of the remaining 30%, men file for divorce at the insistence of their wife. Not in all cases and it is difficult to bring up hard numbers but it is more than half, boosting the figure to about 90% So, men just flat out never ever want to get divorced and are perfectly happy in their marriages? Is that what you're getting at?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 06:18 PM
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There are several, but the single most unattractive thing a man can do to me is whine. Incessantly. No I don't mean lose frame or show softer emotions or get depressed, I mean actual petulant whining. It disgusts me. Style: Ill fitting clothes. It kills me. I don't understand why men don't know what a good fitting shirt or jacket is supposed to look like. It doesn't have to be tailored but jesus christ. Look: overly groomed/gay face. Why is your eyebrow game stronger than mine??? Behavior: Conde…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 05:00 PM
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Xer already identifies in xers flair so that seemed silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:48 PM
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I'm unsure of why these physical traits are odd to mention, given his question? It just seemed super weird to mention your DD breasts.....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 12:20 PM
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Challenge my view, I dare you. Make a post about it darlin', because I'd love to. I'm saying the existence of cucks in a government-sanctioned institution is evidence that civilization is on decline. Way to shift goal posts. That's certainly not what you said nor what was being discussed. And how strange. Weren't you just trying to chastise me for not being able to engage in a reasonable debate? Women complain about tampon taxes while men complain about 18 years of servitude to a woman who got p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 12:06 PM
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Fees for services. Like every other non profit organization. What? Most counties already have free clinics anyway. You realize other "free clinics" aside from PP receive state funding too though right? And of those that don't, many are understaffed and underfunded because they're just not getting enough donations/fees. However the burden on them is still somewhat alleviated by the existence of planned parenthood today. The majority of people near the poverty line also have a little bit of money.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:55 AM
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Was born with a vagina and have DD breasts. What an odd thing to mention..
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:36 AM
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Isn't the term "cuck"? So all married men are cucks now? Because you literally just said you wanted women to be forced to look "below the top 20%" (which they're already doing). Are you saying you'd like more men to be "cucks" or what? Every woman complaining. If it's not perfect, you're going to hear about it. Oh yeah? Then so is every man. Believe me, if it's not perfect, you're going to hear about it...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:07 AM
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But why? What "fees" can be collected from people living below the poverty line?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:47 AM
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The reality is, they don't want them to and they think prostitution is "bad" (i.e., dangerous, psychologically damaging, etc), but they either can't say that outright, or don't like the idea of directly "punishing" hookers. I literally had a big argument with someone about this over the weekend that nearly soured a friendship. Their solution was, jail the johns when they can and give welfare/create more social programs for the prostitutes to offer them an alternative. Now, my argument was that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:44 AM
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etc without stigma... and then turn around and claim any dude having sex should expect a child. That same antiquated argument is among those the ones pro-lifers use It's not really "stigma" to say that if you engage in the #1 activity that potentially leads to creating a child, you should acknowledge the fact that there's a risk....of creating a child. There is no getting around the fact that sex sometimes leads to babies and it's not an antiquated idea to say so. Now, prolifers (or anyone reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:12 AM
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Comparing having sex amd getting pregnant to someone shooting up a mall sounds rather irresponsible How is that irresponsible??? Gavin was the one who made the shooting spree analogy. At least offer him a choice. As I've said numerous times ITT, I'm all for offering him a choice within the same time frame as a woman can have an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:54 AM
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I can understand that criticism. In a way I can too. Like, nobody gives a shit if a dude hires a couple escorts over the course of his week in Vegas. It's damn near expected, it's certainly a trope by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:30 AM
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So those other guy were irresponsible?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:29 AM
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Ha yeah, all women are whores. You're like a MGTOW subreddit simulator.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:23 AM
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That's why a lot of men leave when a girl is pregnant And they say women never take responsibility for anything... I'd be willing to bet that the threat of him leaving will settle her shit enough to keep her mouth closed. But with the state backed child support, the "pregnant glow" is more like License to Diva. Yes, hormonal pregnant women, who are experiencing tremendous physiological changes are just being "divas" and do so all because they can't wait to get some of that sweet, sweet child sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:15 AM
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I sincerely hope your username doesn't mean defund planned parenthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:58 AM
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If I sell you a gun, you consent to buying it and I consent to selling you it. If you then, after the fact, either test it out at a shooting range, or go on a shooting spree, it's not in my realm of responsibility, because you are now the owner of that gun. Well no, wouldn't it be more like if you loaned a gun to an unstable friend who shot up a mall with it? You knew it was possible..
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:34 AM
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Ok, sounds good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:33 AM
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in the case of an unwed mother, such as a teen mom or other single mother. "Single" just means legally unmarried though, lots of "single mom" have live-in bfs. What I am saying is that, this isn't true because the woman consents to the pregnancy. But then doesn't the man consent to the possibility of pregnancy by sheer virtue of having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:05 AM
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I have always said this!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:03 AM
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So, a birth certificate? Ok, I'm fine with this....except what happens in the cases where a dude is all for his gf being pregnant and keeping it, then freaks out in the third trimester, say 32 weeks, and decides he doesn't want to be a dad anymore? The woman is forced to choose between giving the baby up for adoption or being a single mom with no help whatsoever? Or do guys sign a document acknowledging responsibility during the pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:02 AM
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If a man is ordered to pay more than he can afford to and still take care of his other responsibilities then yes, I agree, that is totally unreasonable. Not sure how one calculates what would be in "excess of what raising a child to a normal middle class lifestyle" would be though. I find all this interesting because a lot of men complain about excessive child support and the unfairness of the courts, but I know for a fact some of those same men, even here, weren't ordered to pay anything near "…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:51 AM
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Yeah that sounds pretty high, unless he earns a high income.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:48 AM
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I don't think the mother can adopt a baby away without the consent of the father. She can't unless she commits fraud/lies about the father. Western nations hell-bent on alimony and unreasonable child support settlements. I'd like to know what people consider to be unreasonable these days and how many fathers do they believe are paying these 'unreasonable' amounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:44 AM
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So, how does this go? The father can just walk out anytime he wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:39 AM
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they bare 100% of the responsibility for pregnancy. What does this even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:32 AM
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I'd expect many women (and men) to miss the initial feelings though every once in a while. Sure, but I think that hardly compares to needing an unfolding sense of novelty and wonder or whatever the hell OP was on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 12:23 AM
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It would force women to look below the top 20%, I guess you could call that a hardship. What are you talking about? Plenty of women already do this, who do you think their husbands are? Pretending women can't find a good man is like saying My Sweet 16 on MTV was a realistic struggle for the human condition. Who is pretending this? Get the fuck over how easy women have it for long enough to have an unbiased thought so we can have a reasonable discussion. Get the fuck over yourself first of all. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 12:22 AM
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See my edit if you haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:54 PM
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So what would you suggest? Men be able to just leave and not pay anything whatsoever? Gosh, wouldn't that just continue to create more single "welfare moms"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:54 PM
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There was no "spiritual connection" (again, using that movie was a terrible example and like you, I have no idea what spiritual connection even means). They were no more spiritually connected than two teenagers who meet at fat camp over the summer. I guess you could say being swept off your feet was the idea, and you were right to say earlier that " being with him was like a breath of fresh air" but how many grown women continually expect or require that in LTRs?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:51 PM
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Poor people in rural areas weren't ordering anything out of Sears catalogues, let alone opium, and define "cheap"? But lets run with your theory for a moment...Do you mean to tell me you think this was in any way comparable to going around the corner and buying a $5 crack rock from the local dealer?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:48 PM
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What the hell is feminist history?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:44 PM
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When?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 12:27 PM
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I still had to give them a fake relationship and tell them that yeah, I was interested in commitment when I wasn't. Ah. So you're a trash tier human, got it. Or maybe the girls were just desperate and had low self-esteem and had sex with me but couldn't stop thinking about Chad, and were praying to God the ''sex'' would end up fast? If you think all your previous partners had these thoughts then I don't think they were the ones with low self-esteem. I bet that if they knew my real name I would'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 12:01 PM
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She was a naive teenage private school girl in 1950s England and he was an experienced "wealthy" older man who took her on trips and introduced her to "sophisticated" and exciting adults while exposing her to things her parents never would have. He listened to jazz, drove a nice car and had cool friends. From what I recall anyway. It's been a few years. That being said, it's still a horrible comparison unless OP thinks most women are literally 16 year old girls mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:56 AM
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If you're in an 11 month "dry spell" that means you've had sex before and since you aren't chad I think the fact that you're not a virgin incel pretty thoroughly disproves your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:53 AM
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is it because the Chads are only interested in fucking and not in a relationship? This Chad obsession needs to end.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:48 AM
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This isn't a social justice sub. It's a debate sub. It doesn't really matter what kind of sub this is. In YOUR OP you talked about gangs and youth criminality. It makes perfect sense to mention mentoring and more community involvement from concerned individuals. How can you possibly pretend otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:20 AM
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I have to say, I've had several arguments about this with feminists and some really do want to jail the johns exclusively while giving more pubic benefits to the prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:17 AM
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Or they think he'll settle down for them. Yep. Or they TELL THEM so. I know people think most women are living in la la land but not all of them are with trash tier men and just mistakenly assuming they'll change at random. Or they shit themselves and leave when the baby arrives. Happens often. Or they get bored and leave because family stuff is boring compared to single, partying stuff. Or they hit 40 and freak out. My dad was 36ish. He had a crying infant at home and an exhausted young wife (w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:15 AM
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When there's one parent instead of two, there's less accountability, so it's easier for the single parent to bully and abuse the child, This is partially true. But there's also less supervision. The majority of single mothers aren't unemployed trailer trash. They have to work and childcare is expensive so in many cases, the children watch themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:11 AM
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Women aren't leaving perfectly happy marriages to get welfare though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:09 AM
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That doesn't jive in modern politics. Are you here to argue "modern politics" or your own views?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:08 AM
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Excellent idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:06 AM
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Meanwhile that kid is adopted out to a nice married family who can support them. You paint a rosy picture. Why then, were so many orphanages filled to the brim with malnourished and abused children?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:03 AM
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There was way more child poverty back in the 'good old days'. It's really weird to me. A poor child in a TWO PARENT household was a lot worse off 70 years ago than the children of single parents are today.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:00 AM
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It will never cease to bother and amaze me that so many people act like the MAJORITY of OOW children are created during random encounters in bar bathrooms with strange chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 10:57 AM
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That's where my idea behind focusing on fiscal arguments came from. It's widely known that people will vote against their own interests where issues of religion or morality are concerned though. They believe abortion is wrong, if not outright murder with every fiber of their being and will do anything in their power to stop it. Then there are others who would not support free contraceptives for all who wanted them because they believe premarital sex is wrong, full stop. They may even be having i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 10:48 AM
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No. But I was assuming we were talking about men who DIDN'T want to have a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 06:57 AM
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And it was expensive and nowhere near as widespread or mass produced.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 05:22 AM
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I guess the idea is that since she has to undergo the procedure, he should foot the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 05:15 AM
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and then if someone neglects their child, that's criminal neglect and they can be charged for that and thrown in jail. Which still wastes taxpayer dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 05:09 AM
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How is being born into poverty something you do to yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 09:32 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 03:11 AM
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There seems to be a divide, just look at some of the comments ITT.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 02:11 AM
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Yeah but you guys always get super fucked up right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 07:52 AM
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Americans tend to do most of their drinking either alone or in smallish groups. You don't really see a "party culture" until you start looking at groups who are poor, young or "ethnic". There is a HUGE drinking culture in the UK that flat out does not exist in the U.S., at least not in nearly the same way. Yes, we drink, lord knows we do, but culturally? it's not as much of a "thing" here as far socializing is concerned. You're more likely to find people who like to sit around getting drunk with…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 10:57 AM
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No, I'm saying that kind of man, (the reckless alpha, the one getting ass left and right, banging married chicks, etc) is NOT the man with the good job and the 401k in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 09:29 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 09:12 AM
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I'm drunk now. You should totally come to the IRC then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:58 AM
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Sure. And that type of guy usually tends not to have a 401k.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:06 AM
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What part of criminal, aggressive/physically violent, DGAF pussyhound screams "stable family man" to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 07:41 AM
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None of that is attractive to me personally, but like I said, lots of guys seem not to know who/what alphas actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 07:37 AM
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Why isn't that just an Alpha? Why does stability make some one Beta and not Alpha? Because that's not what a real alpha male is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 07:31 AM
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To me an alpha is a guy who doesn't need to have a retirement account to be attractive, The retirement account isn't the "attractive" part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 07:28 AM
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Plenty of "feminist" men who are the first to don their pussy hats at the latest women's march and shit all over misogynists "assholes" suck in bed too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 07:26 AM
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K.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 04:51 AM
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They have "sensitive feefees" but YOU are whining both here and on /r/TheBluePill about how you let yourself go for some bizarre reason and now your life sucks. Ok...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 04:38 AM
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For interest, which is better: 1) being a fucking idiot; 2) fucking an idiot? What? Perhaps we can have a run down of the specific tangible trp actions which bp considered bad, evil and mean. They've made it pretty clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 04:03 AM
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and on they OBVIOUSLY don't want men to work out or dress well, as those are some of the things TRP teaches. Where are you getting this from? Where does TBP say lifting and dressing well is bad? When TBP says TRP is bad they quite clearly explain why they think that is and not one time have they mentioned taking care of your physical appearance as being what they find fault with...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 03:57 AM
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I ditched any bad ass looking facial hair and let my hair grow naturally without getting any fancy haircuts. I started dressing how I dressed at 16 years old. I stopped passing shit tests, stopped with the alpha stuff and started becoming myself before TRP...a pushover. But...thats who I am, right? I am a pushover. I do put women on pedestals. I don't lift. If you thought TBP advice was to stop working out and stop dressing well then you're a fucking idiot and I don't know what to tell you about…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 03:41 AM
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they're accepting the labels and what they mean but now they're pretty must making the case that there are there are different "types" of betaness that guys can aspire to. To me, this is them basically defending female sexual strategy by trying to convince guys to warm up to the idea of being a beta Hmm, I thought those distinctions were being made because a ton of red pill dudes seem not to know what an actual alpha is. Because let some of them tell it, an "alpha" is a 30 something STEM lord wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 10:53 PM
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OR, what humorless shrews do to fun, happy, likeable people... Has nothing to do with adult vs child.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 01:51 PM
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You should've specified that, really. I mean, I understand you're just some beleaguered Russian workhorse or whatever but I know damn well you speak three languages and in at least one of them you've learned what italics mean. I said... there are men who can't attract women for casual sex but... ....which should've made things pretty clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 01:49 PM
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So the man is a child and the woman is an adult? Hmm. How did you get that out of anything I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 01:37 PM
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You were saying it like if a guy couldn't attract women for sex he couldn't attract them for relationships....which is blatantly untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 01:22 PM
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I have to say, having thought quite a bit about it, in almost all (American) sitcoms that's usually how it goes. At the end of the day, they both have good sides and terrible/stupid/selfish sides and everything is exaggerated for comedic effect, but..... they're always redeemed at the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 01:21 PM
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Come back to chat dipshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 08:15 AM
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HAHAHA. Ok..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 03:00 AM
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Examples? Because off the top of my head I can't think of any shows that paint men that way while making women out to be well put together martyrs with no glaring flaws of their own...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 02:43 AM
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Define a "couple dates" and over the course of how long?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 02:39 AM
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I always think of shows like Everybody Loves Raymond or Modern Family. Dad is the lovable buffoon, wife is the sex-withholding, nagging shrew always ruining everyone's fun who overreacts to everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 10:16 PM
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We weren't discussing that. Well we sort of were. Your pizza analogy certainly made it seem like it. I say it is not a reversal, but merely opening up the stereotypically feminine/passive role to men in the social sphere Yes, but if women aren't physically, sexually attracted to men they have to pursue/chase, what is to be done about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 09:30 PM
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can you honestly say you want to keep the status quo and keep men from eating solely peppers if that's what they truly want to do? No, of course not. But I don't think your analogy works. What are some things men currently aren't "allowed" to do that women are?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 09:01 PM
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Then show me some. I looked for such women for about a decade. I still kinda do By not "concealing it" I meant they aren't actively going around hiding it or pretend not to be incels. They still aren't making an announcement. So I don't know what you expect me to "show you". That doesn't stop men from voicing their concerns and discussing them among each other So? Men and women are different. Women also have the ability to push it out of their minds and retreat unto themselves more so than men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 08:50 PM
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That's fucking crazy. I chalked it up to some jealous guy. It probably was. But, this is the kind of shit some of us mean when we say men slut shame too. They make comments, they harass and they try to "shame" any hint of sexuality in women that isn't directly to their benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 07:48 PM
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Well no, there are men who can't attract women for casual sex but can get relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 07:42 PM
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I feel autistic now. I couldn't even process the rest of the post because of that one glaring inconsistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 07:39 PM
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Do you mean slut shaming like a couple months ago I took my gf to the movies only dressed up in a nice knee length black skirt with stockings and some betafag screamed "slut" out the window at her? OMG, tell me that didn't happen!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 07:32 PM
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I wasn't really complaining, I was asking a question. I was curious as to why some men thought women wanting (and having achieved) things like fair pay and access to education means they want to be men. frustrated with men expanding their gender roles Well no, because "expanding" them is not what some of them are doing. They want to totally reverse them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 06:50 PM
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And she thinks getting matches is a great feat not everyone can pull off. She is not being ironic here, she really isn't If she doesn't think getting Tinder matches is easy for everyone, how does that validate your OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 06:26 PM
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However, it does mean that you're willing to discard gender roles for women but do not want to discard the corresponding roles for men. It's not really about discarding gender roles, it's about expanding them. you have no leg to stand on when men decide they also don't want to live traditionally. I mean, if men decide they don't want to abide by any of their former gender roles, they can do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 05:25 PM
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You implied that the promise of commitment used to manipulate a guy into sex is unlikely to hurt him Who said anything about the promise of commitment or manipulation? What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 02:52 PM
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What do you think the guys wants in that situation, or what do you think is wrong with them? I don't think there's anything "wrong" with them, I just don't trust their motives. Now, if I'm at a club or something it's whatever, guys flirt, everyone flirts with everyone. But if I'm just minding my own business and some alpha chad dude starts hitting on me....nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 02:49 PM
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denying that they can be emotionally vulnerable and can be hurt. Did you see my other comment in the chain? I'm not denying anything. Typical woman! But let's be real, it's what you love about me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 11:22 PM
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there needs to be a good reason why all the truly incel women choose to and are able to completely conceal their situation from the rest of the world. They're not ALL completely concealing it though, some just don't discuss it. It's known, it's just not talked about. But even if they were......... I don't think there is, or can be, such a reason. Humiliation? Despair? Fear of judgement or unwanted advice? Not wanting to be constantly reminded of their failure as a woman? And the ones that want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 11:21 PM
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sexist bae I'M SO CONFUSED. Anyway, I don't see how it's sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 10:12 PM
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That would necessarily mean either that there are 3s who are incel, No, I don't believe MOST men would bang the 3s, especially not high SMV men. which is clearly not the case since literally every woman who is "incel" is so with a bunch of caveats Lots of women are "incel" without making some grand announcement or joining a subreddit to broadcast it to the world. Men don't want them and they know this, have known it for some time, so they retreat to their puzzle games and their cats and their pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 09:56 PM
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Which is a much more favorable position than most men, who are lonely in both. Why is the comparison even being made? Is she any less lonely because some men can't get sex? why not lower their standards significantly like men have to do? Lower her standards to what? The point is she keeps running into men who ONLY want her for her looks. It's not just 10/10 male models who'd look at an extremely attractive woman and only see a hot piece of ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 08:42 PM
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So? better than what most guys have What do you mean "so"? Women aren't men, they want different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 07:59 PM
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This whole post is bluer than a smurf orgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 07:39 PM
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Can't you go do that on TBP? You aren't actually here to debate anything and you didn't even ask a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 07:32 PM
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wouldn't that hurt the guy? Sure, but we're talking about incels. Ask 1000 incels ages 18-99 if they'd rather be pumped and dumped by a highly attractive woman, or never touch a titty and see what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 07:16 PM
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Why is this here?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 06:39 PM
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I'm saying, ITT, no one is going to say that. And so far they haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 06:04 PM
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I mean, some couples just understand neither one of them wants to fuck just one person for the rest of their lives no matter how much they love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 05:59 PM
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Yes, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 05:18 PM
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CDs for these Ds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 04:17 PM
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Well my dear girl I, for one, only allow myself to be pumped and dumped in bathroom stalls by the wealthiest, most polished of Chads. ಠ_ರೃ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 04:14 PM
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Oh, were we only supposed to answer if a spouse earning 100K was a direct prospect?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 04:11 PM
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No, she told you to "deal with it" because you said: because women have high standards and many believe they deserve better then a 5'4" guy soo...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 02:57 PM
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How is her not wanting to bang short men marginalizing the problems they face in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 02:45 PM
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Marginalizing what? What is the "it" you're referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 02:29 PM
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She's not sexually aroused by short men, period. What empathy is she supposed to have and how should she demonstrate it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 02:05 PM
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Welp, you'd have to talk to carkudo about that one bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 01:48 PM
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I don't care about salaries and never have, but IF given the choice and all else being equal I would naturally prefer a man who made 100K for an LTR/marriage. Why wouldn't I?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 01:39 PM
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A high earning woman is much less likely to "take half muh stuff" in a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 01:34 PM
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I think you just like to disagree with me. Doesn't matter what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 01:21 PM
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That's not a "nerd", that's an omega incel, and even then, extracting commitment from them can still prove to be difficult for some women, depending on just how low her SMV is (or how high he feels HIS is, because lets not forget, some men cannot rate themselves to save their lives). OR, they get into lackluster relationships (similar to what I mentioned in your cat lady thread from the other day) where they can feel HE feels he's "settling".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 12:08 PM
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I suspect that many male self professed incels, if they we're approached by a highly attractive women would not immediately jump at the chance but would view her with similar suspicion True, but I do think men would be a lot less wary or react as harshly should a higher SMV woman approach them. There's little risk of a pump & dump and even if so, doesn't matter; had sex. Men are naturally inclined to humor and be NICE to pretty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 12:05 PM
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What if her idea of her SMV is off? If a woman can ONLY get pumped and dumped by men of a certain SMV, it's not something that tends to go over her head. She learns her place very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 11:59 AM
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Are you KIDDING me with this??
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 11:54 AM
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Because she likes tall men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 11:48 AM
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Leagues don't exist, or rather the concept of being out of someone's league doesn't exist. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 11:43 AM
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Most men would bang a 3, if the 3 made themselves available to them. I don't believe this to be true. You are, however, correct about the ego protection thing. I believe /u/alreadyredschool has also talked about this elsewhere a bunch. Wheras women who feel (or suspect at all that I think of them as) less attractive put up more barriers. Bitch shields are common in these situations. Contrary to popular belief (I'd argue) most women (I'll be generous and say women over 22) have a pretty good idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 11:42 AM
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If I was looking to get married then the higher the count, the more money she needs to make. See, this should be true TRP strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 08:37 AM
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Now wait for people to throw exceptions your way despite clear, understandable and rational reasons why you don't want to wife up a ho. I suspect no one will do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 08:29 AM
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Neat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 04:57 AM
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I'm not into guys with high partner counts because I don't like the idea of someone I want to commit to having previously stuck his dick wherever, whenever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 04:47 AM
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That would cause issues in an LTR, I guess. There wouldn't be an LTR. That's the point. Many guys have said it. Picture the chill fat chick who likes all the nerdy shit you do (or whatever). She's fine for FWB but lots of guys would nope out on an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 01:23 AM
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I wouldn't say "every guy is a beta". Plenty of successful marriages prosper because the guy is a healthy mix of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 01:16 AM
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No offense but you sound a little too tightly wound. There's probably a reason you're only 20 and already worried about how you'll raise your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 03:24 PM
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So what type of mistakes would you let your teenager make without interference? Drinking, cutting class, slacking on grades, etc. All this, of course, would only be to an extent, but unlike many parents, I wouldn't center my kids upbringing around the idea that "disappointment = disownment" or some shit like that. And I definitely wouldn't pressure my kid to perform in any particular way or helicopter parent them. Some parents go a loooooong ways to preventing their kids from making any sort of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 06:56 AM
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I plan to raise my kid(s) with good, non-puritanical morals and I wouldn't raise my sons much differently than my daughters. I would teach them that there are consequences to their actions and try to give them the tools to differentiate between a GOOD decision in the long term, and a "feel good" decision in the moment. I'd also make them aware that some people out there are looking to use others for their own personal gain, but I would let them make their own mistakes (to an extent) without inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 03:59 AM
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This. And I wish more people understood that even in the unfortunate event of divorce, a father can still be a part of his child's life - baring a situation with bitch ex-wife who refuses to let him see the kids - and have a huge influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 03:49 AM
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When I was in kindergarten, this little boy named Tyler used to walk me to my mom's car every day at 12:15. It starts early!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 03:45 AM
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If one of my college-aged daughters brought home the captain of the West Point water polo team, I'd probably get down on my knees and thank God. I appreciate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 03:44 AM
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Idk, I guess you're a different kind of dude. I think that's largely what OP was getting at, because lots of guys (both on and offline) have openly stated they'd fuck or even FWB girls who were okay, but not pretty enough to pursue romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 03:23 AM
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You are I said I LIKED being paid the same, so I'm aware that I already am. .and then you still want to look further up the corporate ladder for a husband. I don't think not wanting to be the sole breadwinner is the same as trying to look up the corporate ladder for a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 03:20 AM
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Lawyered LOL, I'd like to use this whenever sublime explains something from a legal standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 02:55 AM
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But there are women you'd fuck but never consider attractive enough for a relationship due to their level of attractiveness, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 02:37 AM
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LOL!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 02:35 AM
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you made it sound like muscles and a killer physique werent a major selling point is all. Read my comment again then because it seems like you missed a few things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 01:03 AM
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Did I say no women like muscles ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 12:39 AM
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Is your only definition of masculine "tall and attractive"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 01:34 PM
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Women like to look at muscular dudes like men like to look at expensive sports cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 03:21 AM
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Yes? No? Maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 07:41 PM
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To be completely clear, "hit the gym" is NOT "go lift". I... okay I guess I'll have to agree with that. In my circles (and IRL), telling a guy to hit the gym has always meant lose weight and gain muscle but I see how not everyone means it or takes it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 07:39 PM
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First of all, I hate that I had to sit through that cringy, "feel good" video and how dare you. Anyway, I don't know what I'm supposed to be seeing. 90% of the people in that video are women and children and like....cancer patients. That song is a classic example of the kind of "you're beautiful just the way you are" bullshit songs made for women and gays.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 07:35 PM
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Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 07:08 PM
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Sorry, we live in a world where songs like "All about that bass" is popular For WOMEN. Songs like that are specifically made for, and marketed to women. Those are "female anthems" not meant for anyone but those who possess XX ears. Not to mention the constant onslaught of people saying women don't like muscles and think muscular men are douchebags. This is literally the message I got growing up. Many women don't like muscles, especially not the kinds of muscular physiques a lot of men post and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 12:26 PM
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Well, you already know I've never dated a man above 5'6 so..yeah, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 10:09 AM
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I really didn't expect the responses I got.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 08:49 AM
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I don't think there is one, at least not in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 07:01 AM
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The part about the demand for labor? I'm sorry, I'm having to sift through a lot of replies and responding mostly via my inbox, it's a bit confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 04:40 AM
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My point was never that men had rights women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 04:14 AM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 04:13 AM
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If you can't see the connection between these you need to retake econ 100. Never took it in the first place. Can you explain the connection to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 04:13 AM
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but are somehow offended that men are more aggressive in the workplace as well: they work longer hours, they pursue promotions, they take on more responsibilities, they negotiate salaries harder. I have no problem with someone earning more because they work harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 04:12 AM
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That's for them to believe. Doesn't make it true for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 04:10 AM
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You're explaining things to me that I already knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 03:43 AM
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Why is it an either/or? I'd like to be treated fairly and I'd like men not to be treated poorly....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 04:54 PM
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I'm fully aware there's no wage gap. I felt like I made this clear in my OP. How many times do I need to say this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 04:31 PM
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I'd never take a job that openly paid me less for the same work. Don't care about dating men who out-earn me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 04:12 PM

the things you are saying are very defensive and emotional. Yet you've yet to quote me something I said that came off that way. You want to have your cake and eat it too, and you are whining that you can't get it. Show men something I said that implied this? Real life has responded to you, and it hasn't given you what you want. Huh? Your entire rant and the ensuing posts can be summed up as "Men won't give me feminism AND chivalry, 10/10 male models aren't giving me everything I want!", and I am…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 04:09 PM
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don their fingerless gloves HAHAHA!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 04:01 PM
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Man, idk..... But maybe you're onto something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:49 PM
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You appear to be overly emotional, typing things in CAPS and multi-quoting me. Oh gosh yeah, typing 1 or 2 words in all caps for emphasis surely means I'm angry.... Your entire thread, and the ensuing posts, is complaining about the very idea I don't think you understand the difference between "complaining" and asking a question.... You even say yourself, why can't you get equal rights and also have men pursue you and give you all the benefits of being a woman with special treatment? You've yet …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:30 PM
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you want some kind of enforced (by men) control system in place that prevents others (i.e. men) from being free to pursue their own desires. Gosh, call me crazy but, since you claimed women shouldn't expect both freedom and security and went on to say the above, it sure sure sounded like you were talking about who had what rights to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:15 PM
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Women do most of the spending on themselves, if they are single and childless. Like getting their nails or hair done, new shoes/purses/clothing. So what though? That money is still going into the economy. They spend more for the family in general if they have kids. Again.........so what? And women still expect men to pay for the first few dates, regardless of if she makes more or not. Some women do, some don't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:07 PM
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Right, you need to relax. I mean, I'm really not upset so... You can want whatever you want, it doesn't mean it will be given to you. And I'm well aware of that. I literally just said understood the difference between wants and entitlements. I made it clear I didn't expect to be GIVEN anything nor did I feel "owed". Your entire rant is "I want special treatment and special privileges alongside my equal rights!". Which part of my "rant" asked for special privileges? doesn't mean that other people…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:00 PM
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Similar to communism, feminism ceases power from the capable men and redistributes that power equally. What powers are feminism taking from men and giving to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:37 PM
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But those in leadership are. But so what though? High T, a defining male characteristic, appears to be strongly correlated with leadership. I don't disagree. Is leadership an inherently male role? I'm not sure. Historically, leadership roles have been given to men, but many have been unable to competently perform the duties required of said roles. However, I do think more men are MORE suited for such roles,. Still, that doesn't mean no women are either. I'd say Elizabeth I, Cleopatra, Margaret T…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:27 PM
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Basically, men need that 30% extra because its going to be spent on women anyway via drinks, dinners, and dates lol. I know you're probably half kidding, but don't women do most of the spending in this economy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:01 PM
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As part of your long rant. LOL at the fact that you read my >300 word genuine question as a "rant". They are not owed dates, or attention, or cute guys flirting with them, or being asked out, so on and so forth. WANTING or being attracted to something is not the same as feeling "owed" though. I WANT a hot 20 year old guy with a nice dick, excellent bedroom skills and the mind of a lovestruck teenager who only has eyes for me. Doesn't mean I think I'm "owed" that though. Again, I still don't unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 01:58 PM
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So what though?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 01:50 PM
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acts like a poor copy of a man If a woman decides to enter the political arena or a 'leadership position' she is highly likely to already be a very high-T woman. Those who aren't quickly learn it's better to emulate men if they want to succeed. it is hard to escape the obvious conclusion. The obvious conclusion of what though? Cause I mean most women aren't in politics or leadership..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 01:46 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 01:40 PM
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You are not owed attention or validation. And I never said I was, nor think I am. If men aren't owed sex then women aren't owed validation in other areas either Right. No one is "owed" anything. But where did I ask for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 01:38 PM
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Forced equality requires someone to pick up the slack. How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 01:35 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 01:34 PM
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It has nothing to do with "advantages". Do men usually only opt to befriend other men whose friendship would be advantageous over others? IME, no. Most men gravitate toward like-minded individuals and bond over shared interests, regardless of sex. Still, no one is telling you to go out and collect a gaggle of female friends or choose women over men. That said, I know my male friends appreciate having a (female) friend whose shoulder they can cry on or engage in some less masculine hobbies with, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 01:33 PM
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I'm trying to stay neutral ITT (because my OP was completely genuine and I want to understand) but that post legitimately blew me away. The notion that it is a man's "right" to sexually harass in the work place is beyond comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 01:20 PM
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But she says thanks for paying her, that money will be really useful." Why on earth would she be the only plumber on staff? In most developed nations, that is literally what employers do, by law: they pay women to sit at home, being pregnant and doing nothing related to the company's business. In America, do you know how many kids the average woman has? Do you understand how long maternity leave lasts? Are you aware of how much of that is unpaid leave? Are you saying it's right (or logical) that…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 01:14 PM
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Basic math tells you that it is getting more and more statistically unlikely for two people who happen to be in a couple to both be in the tiny club (which gets tinier every year, relative to the mass) of people with good salaries. Here's the thing, I'm not talking about "good salaries", just comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 12:52 PM
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"if you're suffering from the burden of performance, just find a woman who makes more than you do and/or doesn't care about your income". I mean, I've never said anything like that so I can't relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 11:07 AM
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I'm just reading this now and I'm gonna reply at some point but HOW THE FUCK can anyone write so much???
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 11:02 AM
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I want all of the legal advantages, yes. But I don't understand why wanting legal equality has to mean one must also want total social equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 10:59 AM
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Don't take the job then. Well it's not that simple. If ALL employers were paying women less (as they once did) I wouldn't really have a choice. As for the rest of what you said, that's fine. You're talking about who you would employ and consider more reliable though, not who you'd pay less. Personally, if I ran my own business and had the freedom to hire based solely on my own preferences, I'd employ nothing but single men over 30, divorced women over 40 and use brand spanking new college grads …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 10:56 AM
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You can't expect freedom and security. Why not? (work, earn the same as men, go to college, etc.) is very different that saying that you want to be free from certain things (sexual harassment, etc.), ... because what you're essentially saying in the latter is that you want some kind of enforced (by men) control system in place that prevents others (i.e. men) from being free to pursue their own desires. Laws....those are called laws. No one will ever be 100% free to pursue each and every one of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 10:37 AM
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You know that I know this. I wish more people ITT understood that I didn't think there was a wage gap presently.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 10:03 AM
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You know that TRP is entirely anti feminist right. So you're here to tell anti feminists very well known anti feminist ideas. Just because we share similar views on feminism doesn't mean I agree with everything else they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:50 AM
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why don't you go after the side of feminism which is plainly the major force in pushing this insane "Harrison Bergeron" standard (equity) on society? I have, and continue to do so. You're making arguments that are quite similar to popular anti feminists. I AM an anti-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:30 AM
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Hahaha!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:18 AM
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Hey, fine by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:15 AM
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I mean, neither one is right to hit so...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:10 AM
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can you not forgive a certain amount of "boo-hoo" mockery over a woman in a typically male situation? Maybe you should grow a thicker skin. Man up. LOL, I don't know how you can in one breath ask if I understand why men are crying, yet in the next tell me to grow a thicker skin and man up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:05 AM
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No, this is thirsty omega male solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:02 AM
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I suppose what I'm saying is that people dislike the movement far more than the policies. Hmm. This is something to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:59 AM
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Sorry, I was redditing at the bar again My god, think of all the HB8s you missed while reading my bullshit post! 😱 Men more expect more from women, at least I do. I'm fine with men expecting more from women. They should've done that a long time ago. What I'm not fine with is men thinking that because I want equality in some areas, I want to be a man or completely abolish gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:56 AM
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This could only work or make sense if women left the workforce entirely. And since when do employers "care" about employees, least of all enough to give a shit about their home life and whether they can support their families. Essentially what you're saying is, employers should be allowed to pay people based not on performance and abilities, but circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:38 AM
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However, reverse the roles of that situation and the man would probably be expected to 'man-up' and support the woman no? I mean I would hope not and I think a lot of people in this day and age would certainly say he should DTB, but I won't pretend some women wouldn't think he should stay and support her. Just like some people would think the woman in that other post should stay and make an effort to earn more money (I'm not making this up, we discussed this on the IRC last night).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:31 AM
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Just the parts that you like, and that benefit you no? Nope, they can even lose some of the ones I like, to a degree. That doesn't mean I'd like them to lose all of it. Just as I haven't lost my femininity. Can you not see your privilege here? I can definitely see the privilege. But as I said before (not sure if it was to you), we're both privileges in some ways and are disadvantaged in others. the best most men could ever hope for is a woman who earns about the same. In all likelihood she will …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:24 AM
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It would, on average, take it out of his kids' and wife's pocket. How?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:10 AM
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rather than equality of opportunity. Right, I can agree with that. I've always personally just wanted an equal chance for women (which we have now).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:10 AM
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Why does something have to be "in it" for you specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:09 AM
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So you want women to take a share of the traditional masculinity, but men to retain all their masculinity? I don't expect men to retain all of it, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:08 AM
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Or, alternatively, why should an employer pay you, a single woman with no kids, as much as they would a guy with kids to feed, given the discretion? Why should an employer pay a black man, who lives in a lower income area and takes the bus as much as they would a white man who lives in a nice house in the suburbs and drives an SUV. I mean, the black guy doesn't need as much money to live, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:03 AM
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I've never heard this, especially not on the Red Pill. Well I was thinking more or less of this post but I've definitely seen many express a similar sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:56 AM
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Women are, generally, NOT the primary breadwinner (according to entrenched gender roles), and, therefore, do not NEED to make as much money. So single women should have to take less pay because their married female counterparts have husbands who earn and can take care of them? This reads like women being paid fairly is taking money directly out of the pockets of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:50 AM
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I think that what is confusing about your OP is that you say "I want equal legal rights but I want men to be masculine". There is nothing wrong with this, that is your prerogative. It doesnt quite jive with the bigger picture though. I want equal legal rights but that still won't get me wet for weak betas. That seems completely reasonable to me. Women should be able to do traditionally masculine jobs. If they can perform them adequately and safely, why not? Women should be allowed to drink and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:43 AM
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I mean, men and women will always be privileged in some areas yet disadvantaged in others. That doesn't mean there has to be imbalance everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:31 AM
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Why should I have to take less pay for a job if I don't want to be the breadwinner?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:29 AM
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Hmm, good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:26 AM
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Hasn't the wage gap been busted? There is no wage gap currently, that wasn't my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:16 AM
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How was my question a strawman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:15 AM
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I think she's playing some kind of character. No idea why...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:10 AM
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Men and women should earn exactly the same amount of money for performing the same exact job. In fact, that's the law. Has been for a while. The fact that men are statistically more likely to be the primary breadwinner, doesn't matter. Yes, I'm well aware of this and said as much in my post. Wanting the protection under the law, yet also not accepting the social undertones and associated role changes, just makes people guilty of wanting to have their cake and eat it, too. How though?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 06:08 AM
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When guys dont chase after you, you feel like you are being denied some kind of born privilege. Personally, it's not about feeling like I'm being denied a privilege. I just feel no physical attraction for men I have to pursue and be aggressive with. They are absolutely not obligated to pursue me however nor did/would I shame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 05:58 AM
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Unequal pay was reinforced by two gender roles: "woman in the kitchen", "man at work". Equal pay coincided with the breaking, generally, of the "woman in the kitchen" gender role. Can you explain this to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 05:56 AM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 04:19 AM
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A generation before that, women thought politics was a dirty, petty, and masculine business that was beneath a lady, and it was much better to let her husband do that shit work. Where are you getting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:09 AM
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Humanity has been set up around men making the money, holding the political power, and being in charge of pretty much everything as well. Actually, in the not so distant past "humanity" was set up around the a few men making the money, holding political power and being in charge. The rest were slaves and/or subject to the whims of the select few elite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:07 AM
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How is that an example of her thinking men out of her league should be attracted to her? All she was saying was that when she goes out, men eyefuck her and send IOIs but don't approach. Actually, that thread kind of illustrates the point the woman in the article from OP's post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:25 AM
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I wonder if some people will ever tire of just blatantly making things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:16 AM
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I'm pretty sure /u/moodybela isn't looking for a 6'3 IB...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:14 AM
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"Has to be over 6 feet" "Has to be in shape" "Has to be really attractive" "Has to be ambitious and have a great career" "Has to be exciting, dominant and aggressive / have Alpha characteristics" Where??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:13 AM
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It bothers me to no end. I've always said they're attributing beta/omega male thirst to alpha/high SMV men. Hot guys aren't forced to fuck fatties and plain janes on a regular basis or settle for the last homely chick left in the club if they strike out with hotter women. Attractive men will either go home emptyhanded OR call one of the many, many cute girls they already have on speed dial.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:12 AM
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There's this consensus on here that men are supposed to get shredded, be 6"2, look and dress like Harvey Specter, develop careers that pay in excess of $150,000 a year and have at bare minimum $500k 3000 sq ft houses in upscale neighborhoods just to become "attractive" to the AVERAGE woman. There is no such "consensus" here. What on earth.... Seriously, show me some posts where the women here are "demanding" this or even suggesting this is what they'd like?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:08 AM
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OP seems a little....troubled.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:07 AM
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Yeah, this isn't the friendzone or anything like it, this is just men who have female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:04 AM
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Slut. It used to mean something very distinct, at least where I'm from. Generally speaking, a slut was a girl who slept with almost anybody (including your bf), dressed or behaved in a trashy manner (visibly wasted, hanging off of guys, etc) and was not just sexually indiscriminate, but also indiscreet. Yet now for some reason it means any woman who's had like more than 3 partners or has discreet, casual sex with attractive, high value men. Beta. Back in the day betas were guys who could attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 12:43 PM
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(Women are all "What have you done for me lately?") I gotta say, I find it really funny that in your attempt to prove women are, idk, demanding and hard to please, you link a song about a girl who's egotistical LTR bf is neglectful, lazy and inattentive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 10:59 AM
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Men aren't what they used to be sounds a lot like TRP's women aren't what they used to be. Well, that really wasn't my point, but I'm also still struggling to see how that would be "entitlement", even if it were what I was trying to say. Hopefully you can quote something from me directly that you found to be particularly entitled. Nevertheless, I didn't say men aren't "what they used to be" or even imply it. In fact, not once did I so much as compare men past or present. I said SOME men (and you…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 10:23 AM
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Entitled to.....what? I placed no demands on anyone about anything, didn't talk about what I "deserve", etc. So I mean, I really just don't see where you got entitlement out of anything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 09:51 AM
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No, never. Good lord, if I had to mod this place I'd ban myself within a day. I do mod /r/ppdPersonalAdvice and /r/TumblrInAction though, maybe that's what you're thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 09:42 AM
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This is kind of a silly question. I don't see why men can't lead happy, celibate lives. Well they can. And the ones who have purposely chosen to become and remain are probably perfectly content. It's the ones who want sex but either can't get it, or can't get it from women who meet their standards that are unhappy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 06:34 AM
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you haven't figured out that any critisism towards females is misogynistic according to reddit, Nice backpedaling. p.s. i actually don't care what you think of men or people or fruit for that matter Nah but you do. Look how invested you are. Look how much time you've spent on this. Your poor feelings were so hurt. Anyway, I'm done with you. But, you seem like the type who just has to get in the last word, so when you comment in reply to this post just know that I won't be responding. I'm gonna l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 06:15 AM
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Yeah. Lazy people should probably try to stick to casual flings or celibacy tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 06:03 AM
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Who is this rational person I was supposed to be debating? Can you link me to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 06:02 AM
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Why not? Because there's more to life than fucking? Because people like spending personal time with their SOs outside of the bedroom? he's losing out on other stuff like playing video games, spending time with his bros, going to nightclubs, getting drunk, watching movies etc. If a guy feels like he's "losing out" by spending quality time with his girlfriend then maybe he should drop her and go back to sucking cock with his bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 05:55 AM
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Yeah well, relationships take work to function properly. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 05:52 AM
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You know how TRP says men NEED variety? It's the same for women. Staying home and fucking every weekend is nice, but it gets old as shit sometimes. Relationships die because couples slide into boring, awful routines.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 05:39 AM
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Idk, it's possible for sure, but you know how they much they telling us what WE supposedly think is high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 05:35 AM
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Oh that reminds me, better put the IRC on that list too. Lots of high value ladies hanging around there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 05:21 AM
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Is this based on personal experience? Is what based on personal experience? And going clubbing on weekends and fucking hot guys is "dull" now? LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 05:17 AM
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lol we both know what they meant but because it proves you wrong, you can't let it go. No, it doesn't prove me wrong. All it does is prove that some people are whiny and hypersensitive (lol, ironically, just like the men I mentioned in my OP) and can't stand to hear any sort of criticism about certain members of their gender. I'll make it easy for you... "you win" *pats your head .. Let me put it like this, you couldn't cite a single thing I said that was actually misandrous. The real problem wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 05:15 AM
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Doesn't really matter what they want, it's about what they can GET. The reality is, guys making 50K or whatever aren't exactly rich enough to be attractive prospects to young attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 04:31 AM
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For real. I just found out I don't make all that much more than the BF in the podcast but I have zero debt and I'm super comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 04:15 AM
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but one of you girls told me this couple lives in Orlando, Florida. Aww, look how useful us gals in the secretary pool can be!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 04:05 AM
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Where do these high earning gals hangout? Financial districts, high-end restaurants and retailers, abortion clinics, Church of Satan services, you know, the usual. Nah, in all seriousness, it's not so much that I'm high earning - ironically I just went to check the mail and my W-2s were in there :( - my family is just financially secure and the kinds of guys I'm into tend to make less overall. Money never really mattered to me and I never cared about finances beyond "can you pay your bills and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 03:59 AM
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Well no. You implied that what I said was misandry because the gender-flipped version YOU wrote was cited as an example of you "hating women", which it never was.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 03:39 AM
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Oh.....I thought you meant someone made a post on TBP about it. You're being a little dishonest. That's one dumb cunt who can't read and stalked your history looking for the first "inflammatory" thing she could get her hands on. And she never called it misogynistic so I still don't see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 02:26 AM
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Personally, I don't care either way. I've almost always either had or made more money than they guys I date (grew up MC/UMC but date mostly blue collar/WC guys). Tbh, I don't know why a combined income of $95K isn't sufficient in FL, but whatever. I will say though that for anybody, $30K at 36 seems pretty damn low. Especially for someone with a college education.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 02:19 AM
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Oh, that's interesting. I didn't know the bible stated that in order to be considered a Christian one had to preach from the NT concerning marriage and the female role. Good to know!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 02:03 AM
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Hahaha, that was my first thought. ಠ_ಠ
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 01:47 AM
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Ok well, I'm not about to sit here and debate whether or not some particular person is a Christian by YOUR definition of what a "real" Christian is so idk what to tell ya. He was working with the Church way back in the 80s before he ever started financial planning and had nothing to sell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 01:43 AM
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Can you link me?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 01:36 AM
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Yes he is...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 01:35 AM
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So? So....I don't think that's hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 01:19 AM
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She clearly doesn't love this dude from her tone of voice. Well, it's only been 7 months, so that's not exactly surprising. She is very upset with the relationship and uses the "Christian" excuse to pretend that is why she likes him. Well, I don't know if the Christian thing is an "excuse". Dave Ramsey is a Christian man and she's from Florida. I can see why she mentioned it. If anything, I'd say it's more likely he's attractive to her and good in the sack (which clearly she'd never say on-air).…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 01:18 AM
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She is post wall (past 32) and possibly fat. She is post wall and probably out of shape. Where are you getting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 12:43 AM
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I'm neither BP nor do I read TBP so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also, I think it's adorable you still never showed me all this misandry I was supposedly engaging in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 12:39 AM
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Is this women clearly showing signs of hypergamy? I don't think so. This isn't a woman who is making about equal to her partner and complaining that he isn't making MORE, he makes less than half and she's worried about their future.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 12:26 AM
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Good job. It's interesting though that women somehow prefer napping and watching netflix all the time while simultaneously going clubbing every weekend and fucking Chad in dirty bathrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 11:40 PM
3

Ok? That's not misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 11:33 PM
4

Well now I'm upset because it looks like I'm the one who got a wrist slap.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 11:20 PM
3

Nah. Quote me one sentence in my post that was misandrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 11:08 PM
2

Well, we don't disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 09:57 PM
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Why are you talking to me about BPers and empowerment like it has anything to do with me or what I said? I'm not BP and who the hell mentioned them. What is this ridiculous tangent? Do you just type whatever comes to mind regardless of relevance? Again, show me where I was misandrist? Quote me the exact lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 09:35 PM
1

I think I started hating him when he lost his nerve when trying to plant the heroin. But I wanted him dead when he started freaking out about the money and cracked under pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 09:32 PM
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Hmm yeah, maybe you're right. But idk, he seemed to agree down thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 09:17 PM
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Staying in is fine for some women, yes, but not for others. And even then, among the ones who prefer to stay home most of the time, many still occasionally want to do fun things. Why do you think so many women fawn all over "date night" status updates and make "relationship goals" posts on IG? Some women "stay in" because their SOs never want to do anything, so it becomes the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 09:16 PM
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Plenty would call you a manhater after that misandrist rant.. It's misandrist to critique certain groups of men now? Show me the misandry in my post. I'm the only one calling you out on the toxicity of your post, Where? You're not calling me out, you're crying because I had the nerve to say anything negative about men at all. This feminist style whining a lot of you guys like to do is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 08:52 PM
3

Right...?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 08:17 PM
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No #manhate here /s I don't think anyone here would call me a manhater. And I've been around for a long time. funny how women can say shit like this and it is ok Well, you're complaining about it now, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 08:10 PM
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Heh. The bonding properties get diminished greatly the more men she's fucked; but that's a different story. Mhmm, sure. Don't really see how this is relevant but alrighty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 08:04 PM
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I don't even understand how the man is "paying" if both parties are working and contributing to household finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 08:01 PM
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Do you think sex is part of bonding? Yes but sex is not the only form of bonding. It's a good form, of it, but the bonding....properties get greatly diminished if the rest of the relationship is out of whack. Getting fucked on a regular basis but otherise being ignored isn't exactly indicitive of a strong bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 07:58 PM
2

Always all the time and forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 07:56 PM
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on all occasions where money is involved the guy will generally be paying Couples share finances as well as expenses. I'm talking about legitimate LTRs, not plates, flings or some tinderella a guy just met.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 07:54 PM
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You're limited to bonding in only these contexts? What? Where did I do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 07:53 PM
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What do you mean "funny that it's not included"? Where exactly was I supposed to mention that Pem?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 07:52 PM
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Having life 'happen to you' like this, it's no wonder that empowered independent woman are chomping back SSRI's at record levels. Actually, I've found those types of women are the ones more likely to straight up demand better treatment and flee the relationship if she doesn't get what she wants a lot sooner. and instead got the Jays season ticket. Ew. I guarantee those 'entertain you' thoughts go away, because a man will see it as worthwhile, and not a chore. That's interesting. I wonder why the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 07:49 PM
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That sounds expensive. Who's paying? Dinner is cheap, the beach is free, hosting a small dinner party with BYOB doesn't cost that much and a weekend getaway is something a lot of DINK couples can certainly afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 06:55 PM
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Today's modern woman wouldn't know "bonding" Yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact it HAS been presented directly to her, and she rejected it. Oh really, how so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 06:53 PM
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Well you are wrong ;).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 06:49 PM
2

Lol, it's like I'm possessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 06:48 PM
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Well, it's not as if these women aren't saying anything about it. They complain, they cry, they ask why don't you/we ever do XYZ?, and say omg you never take me out anymore. They have to drag their bfs to social gatherings and family functions. If the guy would unglue his eyes from the Patriots, 4Chan or the Witcher for a moment they could see there is an issue. Another red piller above had this to say: It's not a man responsibility to keep women entertained. Men and women have different interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 06:47 PM
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How desperate are women, when they sign on for this beta schlub you describe? Well, some women just don't like being alone (also, they like sex) so they just accept it. Other times, the man sort of subtly slides into being this guy (post-honeymoon phase) and she stays because I mean, she still loves him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 05:11 PM
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Why isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 05:01 PM
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(read: hypergamously optimized) man. It's not just about hypergamy, some men are just wholly unsuitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 05:01 PM
1

Men can have all the standards they like. But having a "standard" that excludes over half your available pool of women and is also one you yourself do not meet is not "low".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 04:57 PM
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They're not jumping into a new bed every night, but they sure aren't "deliberately celibate." It's not that they're 'deliberately celibate' it's that they're not really putting in much effort to get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 04:43 PM
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It's not a man responsibility to keep women entertained. It's not about being "entertained" it's about bonding. Define fun? With the exception of winter I'm outside all day everyday. Going to dinner, going to the beach, having party, going to theme parks (ok, this is something I enjoy personally, not going to say I speak for all women here), taking mini vacations. Stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 04:38 PM
1

If he's willing to cheat with you then he's willing to cheat on you. Ooh. For some reason I didn't realize this was a cheating situation. :3
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 03:52 PM
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Lots of guys either aren't offering commitment (or are exceedingly hesitant to do so) or are not worthy of accepting commitment from. Many men are content to stay home, play video games and fap to porn at night. Not much changes when they get in relationships except they swap porn for sex sometimes. They're hypersensitive, petulant and lazy. They make odd sexual demands and don't take much of an interest in their SOs on a personal level. They rarely want to do anything fun, complain a lot and do…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 03:50 PM
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Maybe he still will, but if she hasn't had 'the talk' with him by now then she's only got herself to blame. It's funny how women are supposedly fickle and will branchswing all day long and then you hear stories like this where a woman stays loyal and sticks by one man and you people will say oh she should've left for someone else. It's amazing. so you'd think his previous behaviour would be a good guide to the man's character. Right, but how much of that behavior would she even be aware of? And …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 02:48 PM
1

Confirms what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 01:38 PM
1

That's just a bunch of Asian tweens.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 01:24 PM
2

The wall is coming and she might just find that she's wasted her prime chasing an alpha that never wanted to fully commit. If he's been in a lengthy LTR with her, how on earth was she supposed to know he wouldn't commit?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 12:42 PM
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Doesn't matter how you see it. Apparently a lot of men disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 12:36 PM
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What do you mean "what's with"?? Generally speaking, teen girls tend to have idols who look youthful and "pretty". It isn't until they get out of adolescence that they start to become attracted to more "manly" looking men overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 05:40 AM
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The pursued one is the one who OKs the relationship. Thus is the gatekeeper This is not necessarily true. The person initialing the pursuit is not always the person continuing it. Many men will pursue multiple girls but not really invest in a particular one, nor be persuaded to offer commitment until he decides to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 05:21 AM
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Some people like that. Of course. And if sex were strictly about getting off with hot chicks, more men would be paying for it now, legal or not. Yet many well tell you sex is about attraction, conquest and validation on top of orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 01:05 AM
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It's still bigotry. LOL, ok, call it bigotry if you like, but that still won't stop millions of men from laughing in the faces of those who have to pay for pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 01:03 AM
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I dunno dude. Here, an hour with a cute backpage girl is only about £120. I'm not sure how much cheaper it could get for good looking girls. The goal of the trade is easy money. Fucking 10 dudes for £50 is never going to be more appealing than fucking 5 for £100, or 2 dudes for £500.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 01:01 AM
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Your point being? That it's cost prohibitive and legalization wouldn't change much. I wasn't exactly speaking in riddles.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 08:47 PM
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12-19 with the majority of 18-40 year old men pursing girls between 13 and 16. I'd say men 40+ however would probably pursue women/girls between 16 and 19, most leaning toward 18 and 19. I say this because I've come to understand that many men - more than most would probably ever care to admit, even to themselves - are excited by not just youth and fertility, but extreme naivety, innocence and inexperience. Student/teacher dynamics are common fantasies and who is more inexperienced than a girl i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 08:33 PM
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Right, that was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 08:16 PM
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Yeah. Every time I see one of these threads I can't help but wonder why the OPs seem to forget the financial aspect. Legalization doesn't mean "free" or "cheap". It's pretty cost prohibitive for the average male other than every once in a blue moon. Certainly not something he could do with any regularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 08:12 PM
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I don't think "anti-male bigotry" is to blame. A man who has to pay for sex is still judged and castigated by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 08:05 PM
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Yeah, I "began" to suspect it from day one. I mean, some of the stories are just outrageous lies on their face, but many others sound believable enough initially, but when you start taking them apart, they make less and less sense. There's lots of assumptions made about a woman's personality, history and internal reactions to a lot of things. I've read many field reports where OP is suddenly omniscient and half the FR is him telling the reader how she felt, what she was thinking and how her "ham…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 07:58 PM
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Ah I haven't seen one of those in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 07:43 PM
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because culture deems them to be prudes and nobody wants to date a prude. It's not even always that. How many times have we seen comments from TRP saying that if a woman isn't putting out immediately, she's just not into you sexually? I've had guys try to make a move too quickly and I shut them down (gently) only to be later told they didn't think I liked them. It's weird to me that romantic attraction for a lot of men is now predicated upon whether they get their dicks sucked 2 hours into a dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 07:38 PM
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I wonder how these $800 dollar an hour escorts stay in business? Must be "fat neckbeard basement dwellers" breaking their piggy banks. Or it's old married dudes who can afford to "splurge" on an escort every so often. Or maybe fat guys who work in finance, or sub 4 SMV highly paid IT nerds or.... I mean the list goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 03:31 PM
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I love how every time they're asked this, they either don't reply or give some cobbled together non-answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 01:06 AM
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I don't know, but it's really weird. Like that is a really bizarre connection to try to make. Especially because I'm pretty sure if OP found out he could make close to $20M a year playing a role he'd be twerking on somebody's stage too. I guess some people have more difficulty separating on-stage personas from real life personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 10:46 PM

What an odd tangent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 10:27 PM
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Lol yeah sure, it was all "semantics".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 09:40 PM
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If long term commitment was important to women in their 20's, they would get married to these men they allegedly start dating in the mid 20's ...except for all the reasons I previously stated. (according to you) . You mean according to data? There's nothing in getting married that negatively impacts your career. It's not just about whether marriage affects the career, it's about whether the career affects the relationship. And, as I said, stability. Financial or otherwise. It's pretty illogical …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 09:20 PM
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Anyone that does what she has done has clear psychological problems at worst or is an idot at best. Not sure I'd agree someone who is making millions of dollars a year by playing a character on stage has "psychological problems" or is an idiot. But maybe that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 09:12 PM
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Doesn't matter. Off the top of my head I can't think of one female performer that has a large straight male fanbase.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 09:08 PM
4

most children of single mothers are not the result of casual sex, they're the result of relationships that didn't work out. For real. This idea that most OOW births are from ONS/casual sex kills me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 09:07 PM
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No I'm saying men aren't as vain as women are Vanity has nothing to do with it. High status men will date/hook up with lower status groupies because A) they place hotness and sex appeal above anything else and B) the women throw themselves at them. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 09:06 PM
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Do a lot of male celebrities find girlfriends on social media? The only time you really see this happening is when rappers and athletes trawl IG looking for the next "model" to fly out and impregnante.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 09:03 PM
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Explain then why women aren't getting married until their 30's these days When young marriage or, at best, entering college for an MRS degree fell out of favor women realized there was no rush and seem to currently prefer getting a bit more financially stable or settled in their careers before entering into marriage. This actually goes for men as well. Most women get married around 28 or so. But they, just like the women in their 30s, have usually been dating the men they end up with since their…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 08:57 PM
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Chances are you yourself have been hit on by men way outside your league in these scenes, I've absolutely been hit on drunk men who I knew were several points higher than me. Didn't take it seriously in the least, lots of women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 08:47 PM
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Oh, ad homs already? That was fast! Please show me this "rage"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 08:46 PM
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Women ideally prefer LTR, but practically will take no-strings sex with a stranger they are attracted to over a relationship with a men in their own league. Just making things up is a poor debate strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 08:39 PM
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That is why so many women in this thread are enraged at the thought of legalizing prostitute, Literally not one woman in this thread was "enraged" and almost all of them supported legalization. It's becoming clear that when you you say things like "so many" and "it's common" these so called estimates mean nothing. It sounds like you do a lot of seeing what you want to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 08:36 PM
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I have used online dating and have been on the club scene. Not seeing these droves of men hitting on women well below them in, sorry. Show me something better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 08:24 PM
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Sure, on the internet - where ordering sex is like ordering takeout - fine. But then, I'd wonder how anyone could say in America you see universally attractive men who'd be hitting homeruns elsewhere trying to pick up ugly and fat women just to break a dry spell. Who on earth would be privy to this info but you, the girl and your mobile carrier?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 04:18 PM
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Also hilarious how in one post you'll tell guys that they are only as attractive as what they can get but in this post you lament how attractive a guy you can actually get to commit. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 04:11 PM
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I don't quite understand how you can, on the one hand, seem almost offended by men who "automatically expect me to play the 'supportive role' in their lives" yet on the other, think it's perfectly fine to expect the same of the men you wanted to date. Including your current bf. And even somewhat brag about how little you know - or apparently care about - his professional life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 03:52 PM
3

More traditional != more feminine. This is a mistake I think a lot of terps make. It's not even just that they come off more masculine, it's that what is ~feminine~ and traditional in various other cultures/periods is a lot different from what it is in terpland. A lot of TRPs seem to think "traditional femininity" is just this sort of carefree, doe-eyed, girlish adoration whereas in say, poorer, though more traditional regions (or, a century or so ago just about anywhere), it's about keeping a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 03:44 PM
1

Probably because A doesn't let you watch anything but Star Trek ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 03:31 PM
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but in America you see universally attractive men who'd be hitting homeruns elsewhere trying to pick up ugly and fat women just to break a dry spell. Where? How often? In what venues? Because I see this sort of thing touted out from time to time but it doesn't quite match my reality - or anyone else I know for that matter. Then again, men seem to have a lot of trouble rating other men, so who knows. I mean seriously, I'm just not seeing an overabundance of hot guys having to bang a slew of ugly …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 03:15 PM
1

I have no idea what this means?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 02:48 PM
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Hah! Yeah, I may or may not spend an inordinate amount of time mentally killing off fictional characters. ಠ_ಠ
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 02:47 PM
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But some discomfort is necessary if a couple is going to break through new levels and reignite attraction over and over in a long term relationship. I disagree but good for you and yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 02:36 PM
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I just find it funny (strange, not ha! ha!) that she claims that she's a feminist yet wants to reap the benefits of men conforming and performing their gender specific roles. Well, you have to keep in mind this was written almost a decade ago. A bit before this new regime of "gender is a social construct!1!" changed the narrative. Also, I can't say I really agree that this is about wanting to "reap the benefits of men conforming and performing their gender specific roles". This is about sex and …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 02:28 PM
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I'm clearly no expert but, many men have spoken about this and the challenges they faced to varying degrees. You will be expected to provide, without question. Often not just for your wife but for your wife's parents, siblings and extended family, whether they live in the home or overseas. You will be the sole decision maker, which may sound nice in theory but in practice (I'm told), can be burdensome. You will be expected to address and solve any and every problem, full stop. That is just your …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 12:36 PM
1

The reasoning behind it remains to be seen though. How so? Many, many women will tell you that trying to accurately judge a man via still photograph is extremely difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 12:04 PM
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why would you be? Well gosh, I guess it would piss almost anyone off to be repeatedly - and directly - told that behaving (or not behaving) in certain ways and dating only certain guys was pretty much a guarantee to a happy, successful relationship where he wouldn't be gawking at every pair of tits that walked by... It's certainly not a pleasant thing, but it just doesn't sound like something to get angry over. Well, that's your opinion. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Who was your anger directed at? Me, me, me, me, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 12:03 PM
1

I'm talking about Shameless U.S. mind you, but his character has gotten so over-the-top ridiculous that he adds zero value to the show. Entire half-season story arcs dedicated to cleaning up messes it never even made sense for him to make. He's gone from lazy yet (slightly) lovable drunk to crack smoking child abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 11:34 AM
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Her weird argument is that women just love jackhammering for the right alpha.....or some shit. I'm of the opinion she's either in the early stages of a relationship - and thus riding the high of NRE - or she's with her first and only partner and what she thinks is jackhammering isn't nearly what the rest of us mean..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 11:29 AM
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I mean, I'm not saying I agree or disagree, but... IMO, really it all depends on the level of degradation or "dominance" a woman is asking for and how often. This idea that a woman enjoying any kind of masculine "rough handling" (the kind that typically occurs during tons of pretty vanilla, passionate sex; spanking, hair pulling, etc) is practically the same as her wanted to be gagged, thrown around, choked or slapped is weird to me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 11:11 AM
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She sounds like a woman coming off a bad date that culminated in shit sex and now she's talking out of her ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 11:01 AM
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Do you think that the dating options you have as a woman are better or worse when you're ready to have kids? It depends. You could be ready to have kids at 22. Doesn't mean you refuse to date or have a high school boyfriend. Do you think that the dating options you have as a man are better or worse when you are wealthy? Oh, certainly much better in terms of looks. But I wonder how his own personality/judgement skills would be after a decade or more of refusing to date or socialize...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 10:00 AM
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Hmm. I wonder why? I'm not familar with the show but I am familiar with television and I - and many others - have routinely wished death on numerous characters for various reasons. They drag down the show, get too much screen time, have confusing/muddled story lines, have worn out their welcome as a character, changed too dramatically and inexplicably from who they were, cause unnecessary drama, are too crazy to be believable as people and insult the audience's intelligence, have boring, meander…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 09:46 AM
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which is a pretty decent motivation to wait until settling down for good Yep but OP asked about merely finding a girlfriend so... This doesn't really apply to women because the question whether you want children now, 5 years down the road or not at all may influence which men you're able to get, but not necessarily the quality of said man Huh? If it influences which men you're able to get why wouldn't it also affect the quality?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 09:00 AM
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Yet somehow you see fit to claim all other women who say otherwise are just "hamstering". How cool girl of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 06:03 AM
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No, it has nothing to do with "what I want to hear", it's about what's the true Yeah, and somehow, mysteriously, the only things you deem "true" are things you want to believe. K. why can't women just be more honest about what they like? i We are being honest about what we like, you're just covering your ears going la la la some (possible) lady said so 9 years ago so it must be true!11!. It's ridiculous to the point of insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 06:00 AM
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We weren't talking about chasing high status men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 05:01 AM
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What does this have to do with high status men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 04:05 AM
2

Haha, I have a friend who got mad and did this. She quit housework for weeks because he'd rather play video games into the wee hours. She called me one day like "we have one fork".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 02:22 AM
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The discomfort is in seeing this written and in envisioning red pill men having-- or trying to have -- this kind of sex. Or, OR the discomfort is from either having had this kind of sex or having no desire to and being annoyed by some random man telling you this is what you like no matter what you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 01:59 AM
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Firefighters become almost mythical when the only context you see them in is half naked calendars or rescuing small children Whew, the uniform alone. Much like cops (♥♥♥) and marines, that just does it for a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 01:57 AM
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That's arguing in bad faith, No, this whole post is "in bad faith". You are literally dismissing all comments that don't confirm your preconceived notions. It's very weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 01:53 AM
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so why can't women be this more honest about what gets them worked up? You mean "why can't more women tell me what I want to hear?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 01:51 AM
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Yes, it's just hamstering... Let me ask you, are you in a new relationship by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 01:46 AM
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Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 01:46 AM
1

Well "slew of" is a dismissive way to refer to something Nah. slew - noun : Definition of slew : a large number <a slew of books> Everybody should be reluctant to commit That's all fine and well but it's not really relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 01:33 AM
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people here are already on the defensive and hostile to content they don't like No, a lot of people are here to debate but are open to having their views changed and don't get "defensive and hostile". At the end of the day, there is very little to be gained by joining a debate sub only to sit there and lie all day. I find it very strange though, that you would put more stock into an anonymous post on craigslist - that very well could be some old fat dude's masturbation material - than the words …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 01:29 AM
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Or Im just bad at judging character. This is more likely it. Plenty of women stick by their men on the way up and are happy to build with him, especially a woman who's spent any amount of time in the SMP and knows how ambitious men are in short supply. Sadly, some stay with their men (help put him through law school, help to be frugal and keep a tight budget, put off their own dreams and aspirations, etc) only to later be dumped for a newer model once he's "made it", but that aside, many women s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 01:22 AM
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How did it sound dismissive when I said they were reluctant to commit? If I were dismissing them, why would I care or even know if they didn't want to commit?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 01:13 AM
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We don't know much about the actual author, but she is saying that most women share her sentiment. Why is it that when women - actual, confirmed females who are known around here - say things, somehow they never supposedly speak for all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 12:01 AM
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She's a woman so she knows how women think. How on earth does this 19yr old girl random, unverified individual speak for most women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 11:43 PM
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"I listened to red pill with messages not intended for me and they lied to me waaah waaah." Red pillers came to me with this stuff directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 11:35 PM
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Then I supposed that's a person who should wait. But even in his case, there would be no reason to socially isolate himself until then. Nevertheless, even after he would be wise to purchase extensive plastic surgery rather than trying to woo women with the promise of cash and prizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 11:17 PM
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"I'm right and you're wrong la la la." Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 11:13 PM
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I just find it really interesting that some people are so hellbent on demanding sex from women that they can't see it. What man would reject companionship in such a lonely situation if he isn't getting sex out of the deal? Like, he wouldn't be getting sex anyway, so why wouldn't he at least take having a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 11:03 PM
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are you sure you had what it took to land yourself an alpha? I wasn't looking for an alpha though. Also alpha and monogamy isn't really in the cards. Yes, and? An engineer, IT nerd, teacher or some such thing. My most recent ex was an IT nerd. Why wasn't that sufficient for you? What on earth are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 10:54 PM
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No, the sentiment was exactly that TRP lied. And even if she did,, red pill isn't for women. That's a poor excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 10:45 PM
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You can tell yourself whatever you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 10:44 PM
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I've yet to see anyone argue this. Waiting until you're "established" to find a girlfriend is the exact wrong thing to do. This doesn't mean bottom-of-the-barrel jobless sloths need to be on the dating market either, but this would be like women waiting until they felt ready for children to start dating anyone. For a normal person, it's usually imperative to make their financial life their first priority instead of partying, chasing poon or whatever. There's no reason why you can't do both, mill…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 10:39 PM
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I'm really struggling to see where she said all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 10:10 PM
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Well, Nalka just gave a perfectly reasonable argument against that "study" that wasn't, "It's okcupid omg" so...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 09:46 PM
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In general sure, but in this specific circumstance I'd say it would be a mutually beneficial paring. An extra set of eyes to watch your back, two pairs of hands to fish/hunt/gather, an additional person to help you cover ground and see what food or materials are available for shelter, etc. Plus companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 09:39 PM
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Who is this you you keep talking about? When did I criticize men who do anything? I said A) she was generalizing and B) that I didn't read misandry in her tone anyway. Didn't say a word about men doing something nor anything about me being unbiased.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 09:13 PM
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I mean, I'm still unclear whether you're black or not but eh. Anyway yah. I was never ghetto and I had sensible parents so I never had to be retaught how to act or speak properly. Guess I just can't relate, thank god!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 07:45 PM
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What misandry? She was just generalizing right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 07:37 PM
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What do you mean what was I angry about? Why wouldn't I be? And I don't really give a shit what TRP claims the anger phase is (nor have I ever really heard someone define it the way you have), OP asked if we'd gone through something similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 07:33 PM
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As in, you felt it was the only kind of relationship you could have, with any man, ever? No, with that person in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 10:47 AM
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Oh, you're black?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 05:02 AM
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I'm sorry, but you just came off lecturing and condescending. I'm a relatively UMC black girl who lives in a major city and have dated interracially all my life. Not some hood rat who doesn't know who to carry herself or behave around white men. Case in point: Basically you have to adapt your natural communication style without the neck and hands. Think of a cool headed BOSS at work or a matriarch. What on earth...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 03:54 AM
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Oh my, I'm not even sure what to say to this advice because none of this is information I needed. But thanks..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 03:17 AM
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LOL, you manhater, you!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 02:43 AM
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If youre starving and the only food available are burgers, but you hate burgers, are those burgers still options? If you're starving but have several severe allergies, and the only foods available to you are ones that cause you severe allergic reactions, are they still options?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 02:25 AM
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Not "go on angry rants about how much men suck and are evil" The topic is literally about the anger phase though. Who knows, maybe she's still in it. Although I didn't read her comments as particularly man hate-y anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 02:13 AM
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Sure, but sometimes you don't even know who the real drama kings are until you get into a relationship with them and get past the "NRE" phase. For many of them, the drama mill doesn't get going until they get bored and start looking to create excitement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 02:12 AM
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You DID say that, don't weasel out of it. Kind of silly don't you think? No ones weaseling out of anything Pem, I'm not you. What I said was: I was told that men liked "nice", submissive women and were champing at the bit to scoop them up for relationships where they would be loved and cherished. It's not that I somehow later found men don't like those women for relationships, it's that I discovered that wasn't the be all end all and being a "nice, submissive girl" didn't mean every man who appr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 02:05 AM
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Just look up the common definition of omega.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 01:22 AM
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Your claim that you believed that is candidly ridiculous. What? I never said I believed this, what are you talking about?? Your former belief that men didn't want sex, and just wanted relationships with nice submissive girls, borders on the delusional. This is also not something I said. Your former belief that sluts never got men is ludicrous. No, what I said was I believed that in the end they were left alone and never got QUALITY men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 01:08 AM
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LOL, you already know how I get when it comes to these topics. And thank you :3.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:46 AM
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Well, he and I get along anyway, so he probably wasn't contradicting himself so much as talking to me like you would a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:40 AM
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What was the omega-turned-beta like as a person? How did he manage to go from omega to beta? Ehh, getting a girlfriend (me) helped probably. A year and a half of regular sex and companionship seemed to do a lot for his self-esteem, too much really. Last we spoke (a couple weeks ago) he seems to have backslid into his omega ways though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:37 AM
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I'm still looking yeah, but I took a break from the dating scene last year because I was (in retrospect) probably still not over my ex and I was running into a whole new and exciting problem: CRAZY. I had a handful of dates with guys who were really batshit insane. One guy I went out with a few times blew up at me because I inadvertently triggered his weird OCD by saying a particular phrase. Another guy I went out with but wasn't into got extremely upset when I politely rejected him (I even aske…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:35 AM
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Did you anger phase come to a resolution? Or do you still carry it? I don't feel angry anymore. It was a - sometimes painful - learning experience that taught me a lot. It especially taught me to stop making assumptions about men based on some bullshit alpha/beta stereotypes. Not all alphas are aloof pussyhounds who refuse to commit and not all betas (or below) are these sweet, loving guys who just want a good girl to call their own to love forever and ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:25 AM
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When I talk about having "been lied to", I'm excoriated and run up the flagpole. Because you talk about being "lied to" regarding whether you had to bathe or practice good hygiene. There's a difference. But when you're "lied to", and folks like you are lied to, it's all copacetic. Probably because the lies we were told don't fly in the face of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:21 AM
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I don't even know what this means.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:20 AM
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can you elaborate on what exactly it was that made you angry? Was it an expectation of marriage specifically, that wasn't being fulfilled? Well, disappointment sometimes manifests as anger. It wasn't that I expected him to propose anytime soon, it's just that deep down I knew a proposal was never coming. I was looking down a long road of being a forever girlfriend. And an unappreciated one at that. The marriage bit was just one aspect. My experiences contradicted everything I'd been told about w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:20 AM
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Aw come on, Carkudo is a bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:10 AM
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I think the guys who tell they want traditional sweet girls and guys you consider dateable are different kinds of guys... You think wrong then. I intentionally dated the guys who were supposedly the type to want traditional women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:04 AM
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Just be thin, love sex ( with him ), and stroke that ego of his often. Thats it The parent comment of this chain literally shows you that that's not "it" in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:03 AM
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Aww, she sounds lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:02 AM
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Beta guy would never commit because you didn't match his checklist, but he was too complacent to break up and was content keeping the status quo. I'm fully aware of that now. But so far, no woman has as he's still single and still reaching out to me from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:01 AM
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without being the boring domestic mommy moo cow partner. There's a middle ground, but I've found plenty of men don't want that either. They straight up crave the drama and will even manufacture it if it isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 11:58 PM
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What do you mean next topic? This is what the topic is about...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 11:57 PM
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I like that she says something about being emotionally abused and you genuinely believe you're in any position to tell her what she meant. It's fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 11:56 PM
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They won't commit unless they feel you have a life. That's not exactly what I was talking about. I had a life. Men can sense when women are 'trying' to be cool and are actually cool. Been there, done that. Meh. I definitely wasn't "trying" to be any way or another so there was nothing to "sense". That's just who I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 12:30 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 12:15 PM
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Do women also experience something similar to this as they navigate the SMP? If so, what does it look like? How is it resolved? Well to start, I used to be fat. Several years ago I thought the thing holding me back from finding love/relationships was my weight. I accepted that. Everything I'd read up to that point told me that for thin girls, the world is their oyster and everything runs smoothly for them. Then I lost weight. A lot changed for me but in the realm of dating, mostly what increased…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 11:58 AM
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How common exactly are these? Greeks, Vikings, Native Americans and Romans all engaged in similar practices to one degree or another. not because extramarital sex was considered acceptable by the people involved. It was considered acceptable enough for it to be a common practice. I'm not here to argue whether every man whose wife fucked other men was so ecstatic about it he fluffed the pillows of the fornication bed and helped guide the dick in, just that it was part of their lives and apparentl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 11:15 AM
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I strongly doubt that this was ever taken lightly. There were certain societies that practiced scared sex rituals in which "extramariatal sex" were just par for the course. There were societies where women were "shared" among men or gifted, even married women. Then there is the so-called "Lord's right" in which feudal lords were supposedly given the right to have sex with newlywed brides before their husbands did. However I will say whether that was actually a common practice remains unknown and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 10:28 AM
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Ask the OP what, exactly? You're the one who's making up things about feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 10:34 PM
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Believing in feminist ideas itself is an act of hatred towards men. None of those things you listed are really "feminist ideas"...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 10:57 AM
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C-sections make this a non issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 05:36 AM
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Because you mentioned them in the first place? No need to twist myself into knots, trying to follow your logic is doing that enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 04:55 AM
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Who cares? That's not what OP was asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 04:22 AM
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It's not confirmation bias, it's true. You can say a lot of things about feminists but the male tears drinking kill all meninists are a minority. Little girls on social media say shit like that for the most part. The fully grown women who say things like that (kill all men) and express even worse sentiments seem to hate men though, but still, they're a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 03:37 AM
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and its not tied to, for exampke, just getting over some asshole, or other guy who strung you around, getting off a drug habit and hes kind to you etc. Post Chad, and wanting a nice guy, and still sexually attracted to him? I never dated Chads or invested in guys who strung me along so no, it was definitely not that. If so, walk me through it, im interested in this story. What do you want to know? Also, i assume youre a catch? Ive Met some entitled, fat, bitchy women from my time in the navy and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 03:15 PM
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Being socially adept, the influencer in a social circle is just as attractive. Pre selection is girls like what other girls want... If others in that group dated in the past, or want to, its an attractive quality. Ooh right yeah, now I see. Well, he was none of those. That's what I was getting at earlier. im asking questions to show that this isnt the case, and a lack of realistic understanding of male and female relations. Oh no, I understand them quite well. That's not what's happening here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 02:50 PM
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No game, no extra confidence And youre accurate in your self assessment? Absolutely. This wasn't a matter of me just being egotistical and thinking I was better looking; I was. I was 10 years younger, in significantly better shape (he had a dad bod and was short), was well liked in our social circle, etc. social proof, pre selection, physically hot... Huh? Just decided to date an unglier guy for the fun of it? Well like I said, we were friends before that so, it just happened or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 02:38 PM
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It's funny, every few days or so on here I have some new person swearing that most average men would commit in a heartbeat, if only given the chance. Whether that's actually the case I personally have my doubts, but it certainly gets said a lot. In any event, whether most average men are looking to commit aside, people are still committing. The insult lies there. If you believe (or even know) yourself to be on the level of the person from whom you are seeking commitment and they reject you, it c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 02:31 PM
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I fucked and then dated a guy friend of mine who was pretty decidedly below me in looks and it wasn't out of charity. It happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 02:19 PM
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It's only insulting if you think the average guy would commit to the average woman, Most women assume this yes... in which case it's either the case and you don't notice the guys who will, It's not about "not noticing" the guys who will, this is about a specific guy (or guys) in a woman's life. or its not and there's no reason to be insulted Wat?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 01:59 PM
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It doesn't have to be displayed normally, she would have seen it once or twice. Look, I don't really know what your point is so why don't you just say whatever it is you're trying to get at instead of this argument that's going in circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 03:26 PM
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I don't even understand your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 03:22 PM
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Right, and my point was always simply that it doesn't make sense to act like being attracted to someone's proven, violent, sadistic bloodlust and being attracted to a dominate, masculine man with perhaps the - as yet unproven - capacity for violence are the same same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 01:15 AM
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Being frequently violent is typically low class. Why should I resort to being low class? I'm not stupid. Who told you to be low class or violent for that matter? I'm not giving you life advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 12:57 AM
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No, this is really it's more like a way to paint women who made the choice to have NSA/casual sex and have no regrets about it as somehow still being "dumped" Chad castoffs. It's transparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 10:05 PM
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Answer How would you identify if someone has that killer instinct or not? Best way to tell is if they're frequently violent or have actually killed someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 09:54 PM
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From there it's a surprisingly short leap to finding guys who will pay to have sex for them, as often the guy is paying in some form anyway No, it isn't, that's what I keep saying. A woman being able to give away sex doesn't mean she's able to get men to pay for it. And certainly not in significant amounts. These women get fucked because it's generally very low effort and cheap to bed them. as often the guy is paying in some form anyway (he takes her out for drinks, or dinner, or drives to and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 09:27 PM
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Okay, there are a couple things going on here and it's like you're confusing a bunch of stuff. A fat 40-something woman (or even a homely woman) being able to get men to throw her a bone- for free - is a world away from that same woman being able to get men to fuck her fat rolls and pay for the privilege. And I'm not even going to get into the fact that all her claims are unverified. Again taking someone mediocre up on free, low effort sex is vastly different from shelling out hundreds or even t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 08:46 PM
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You say that like it's a bad thing that I've controlled myself enough to not give into my desires. No, I'm saying the fact that you haven't acted on them makes it pretty clear you don't really have that mindset to the extent you seem to think you do. I doubt you genuinely have the capacity to act on whatever desires you think you have. This entire post is about women being most attracted to men who do give into these desires because they're attracted to that level of violence and psychopathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 08:15 PM
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I guess we have a difference in what we call thug then. Youre is probably more narrowed down, where as mine is not. Yes. My definition of thug is pretty close to both the dictionary/general lexicon definition, whereas yours just seems to mean...black guy? And the songs Im thinking of are the popular songs that have the " Im so great, Im so rich, all these women want to fuck me" type lyrics. Okay, name some pop songs like this? Its usually ghetto music that has this type of garbage egotism brough…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 08:07 PM
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But I don't find it that hard to believe that most women could find a man who would help them out with one of those if they really needed it, and I don't find it hard to believe that they'd sleep with the guy to secure that help. See, this is one of those things that makes it really clear large swaths of women are flat out invisible to men. What frumpy 43yr old woman is going to be able to find a man to just give her the $1300 she needs for her rent, especially within the time frame she would ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 07:38 PM
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If the dumping was him bolting when she wanted commitment or she left instead, the matter of fact is, he fucked her. Who left whom is kind of irrelevant though, cause he still got it in. Okay this has gone beyond goalpost shifting now, this is pulling them up and taking them out of the stadium. Since when is a woman having sex for the sake of sex and neither seeking nor getting feelings a "pump & dump"? This "women can only get fucked" mentality is really weird. Rap/R&B/and Pop music alone has t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 07:01 PM
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Well we live in modern, (largely) Western societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 06:24 PM
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You sure seem to spend a lot of time in my comment history. You're also way too concerned what I say to other people. And then telling me about it. It's quite bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 06:23 PM
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Most women don't want to see his actual reality because it's grotesque. They want to stay in the fantasy land, think he has limits and boundaries that they do. In other words, women like masculinity and dominance. News at 11. Because otherwise you're basically saying women like violent killers....except they don't like the violence or the killing. All women are attracted to my persona, my energy. But very few can handle my most fucked up thoughts, almost none. They're just thoughts, not actions.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 06:18 PM
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You're telling me this like I'm supposed to care. I don't get it. Clever as you probably thought that was, it really doesn't work here because you replied to me first ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 06:06 PM
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Women get judged on sleeping around more than men do, for one. No one is ever going to legislate or protest away people's feelings on a particular subject. heroine is either a virgin, or not a virgin but hasn't had enjoyable sex before and is looking for her perfect guy, while the hero has been in bed with plenty of women and has enjoyed himself. If this is what some authors (and their readers) fantasize about or a scenario that inherently turns them on, what is feminism going to do about that? …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 06:00 PM
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Neither me nor BPremium claimed that. Okay. So what was the point in telling me: Not every woman's dating pool only consists of low socioeconomic class thugs though. Most average guys are willing to commit and aren't programmed with misogynistic rap lyrics. Especially when I was already talking about average men. It's very strange. Also, do you agree or disagree with the statement that most average guys are willing to commit? Average guys over 30, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 05:48 PM
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I'm not sure why you felt the need to tell me what you do in your free time, that has nothing to do with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 05:40 PM
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Oh, not trying for commitment. This doesn't make sense. You can't say women aren't seeking commitment from thugs and then call them "assholes who pump & dump". You can't be pumped & dumped by someone you never wanted commitment from. But Ghetto thugs are chased after for sex, which is appalling. Well when you're done clutching your pearls, can you tell me who are the ghetto thugs these women are chasing? And can you also tell me where "ghetto trash is being promoted by the media"? Because as far…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 05:37 PM
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lol kind of. Thugs are the type of asshole who pump and dumps with abandon. Kind of what? Thugs being a kind of 'asshole' that pumps and dumps doesn't mean they're the only kind. And I really wish we could stop pretending most women are chasing or trying to get commitment from "ghetto thugs". Also, there are several levels in between pump & dumped and LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 05:13 PM
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So men's 'height, cleanliness and muscularity' are being "undervalued"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 04:36 PM
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Oh! Just figured it out. It was my ad-blocker. I had to add a whitelist exception for surveymonkey.com. It's weird that the site doesn't even warn you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 04:05 PM
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Nobody has none. Replace "none" with "very little" then. You may be also conflicting SMV and physical attractiveness, Okay. Can you please explain what you mean by "physical sexuality" as it pertains to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 04:01 PM
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Not every woman's dating pool only consists of low socioeconomic class thugs though. Who said they were? And what do "low socioeconomic class thugs" have to do with this? "Thugs" aren't the only men unwilling to commit if that's what you were getting at. Most average guys are willing to commit and aren't programmed with misogynistic rap lyrics. As I just said, I'm talking about "average guys". And I have no idea how listening to rap music is related.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 03:58 PM
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No I mean like when I click the link(s) for survey results there's nothing there. I could've sworn yesterday there were like, charts and graphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 03:51 PM
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Well, it would be very hard to suggest men are simultaneously, objectively unattractive slobs yet also that their "physical sexuality" is being undervalued. How do you undervalue that which has none?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 02:27 PM
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I find that odd given TRP seems to pretty consistently state that most men are pretty physically unappealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 02:13 PM
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Women may feel more comfortable when the money comes in the form of things worth a lot of cash Which forms?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 02:03 PM
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yes, yes they are. Well, I mean if men really are soliciting random women like this then maybe the feminists have a point. And also offering cash just to be near them. Where? How are they making these cash offers and how many of them are doing this? I mean, maybe the disconnect here is that you think I'm saying this never happens at all but if not I really need some kind of estimated figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 01:55 PM
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Fair enough. I don't travel in lower class circles so I guess I just wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 01:44 PM
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What's the problem with prostitution? If sex is no big deal, what's wrong with selling it for cash and prizes? Why wouldn't you want your daughter blowing strangers? You don't need to think sex is some sacred rite to bristle at the idea of your child selling themselves sexually. The biggest, sluttiest, most "sex-positive" feminist (or the biggest manwhore on TRP) still wouldn't want their children engaging in prostitution which could intentionally expose them to violence and disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 01:08 PM
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How would you know that they get deleted unless you either have mod access When a comment gets deleted by the mods everyone can see that it's been removed. It literally says [removed]. Welcome to reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 12:35 PM
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Every woman has a man that she will fuck in a pinch, if not more than one. For money??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 12:29 PM
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Among a very particular subset of women and in environments where people tend to go specifically when they are looking for - or at least open to - that sort of thing? Yes, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 12:26 PM
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Why was the survey taken down?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 12:20 PM
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Yeah and? Hookers will be in abundance in major metropolitan areas because more people = larger potential client base which = more $$$. Many of them transplants from smaller cities/towns and a good number of them travel 'a circuit' (spending time in several major cities within a certain region i.e., west coast circuit, LA-Vegas-Oakland-Phoenix, etc). So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 12:11 PM
1

I mean, I didn't put a hit out. I had nothing to do with your comments being removed, I was just stating a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 12:08 PM
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We see them as women. We just don't want to date or fuck them is all. But that's pretty much exactly how it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 11:58 AM
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approach girl after girl after girl until you happen to approach one whose crotch is ripe. Oh dear god, this phrasing just gave me an STD.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 11:56 AM
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Don't forget that it is said that most people overvalue women's sexual value and undervalue men's physical sexual value. I've never heard this but even still, men have no physical sexual value to women unless they are known to them. This is not how women operate. Men will "eye" 5/10 women because they are visual creatures who are pretty much always open to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 11:54 AM
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Yes, because Las Vegas is the illicit sex capital of America. Those are hookers. Still, I don't see what actual prostitutes using dating websites to covertly advertise to clients (something they have pretty much always done to varying degrees) has to do with regular women looking for relationships on those very same sites. Seriously, please help me understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 11:48 AM
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You have no clue and no empathy. This doesn't even make sense. What empathy did I need to exhibit here, exactly? Was I supposed to empathize with the - patently false - picture you tried to paint of the average man? Or was it the craigslist tricks I was supposed to have empathy for? "Feminist"...lol But I'm not a feminist....lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 11:39 AM
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Men who offer random women money for sex aren't really normal. Yes, that was my point. The men who are doing this are outliers. This is not something the typical male does.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 11:32 AM
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I guess I just don't understand. You were told you were wrong in a dozen different ways for many reasons. Now that's variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 11:31 AM
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You mean, you were expecting more people to agree with you? I mean, what "middle ground" were you actually looking for here?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 10:40 AM
1

Some women are like that, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 10:34 AM
3

Judging from the snarky comments I've read on female profiles, on online dating sites this happens quite regularly. I mean look, even I've been ~solicited~ on the internet before and it doesn't really take that many instances of that sort a thing to lead a woman to consider putting something like that up in her profile, especially if she's new to online dating. The other thing is, most of the men who contacted me trying to pay for sex were doing so from blank/thin profiles with no pictures sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 10:33 AM
3

Dammit, I should've held an auction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 08:35 AM
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This sub is either very blue or very red. Was expecting more of a combination. You did get a combination. In this thread there are both blue and red pillers telling you you're wrong. What more did you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 08:29 AM
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Well wait a minute.. FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY I can still be bought for the low, low price of just 5,000,000 RUB. ACT NOW!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 07:48 AM
1

Sorry mom and or dad!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 07:10 AM
2

Hahaha!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 07:01 AM
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Was....was this supposed to be a sexual transaction? Am I a prostitute?!? Welcome to the club! 🌹🌹🌹
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 05:21 AM
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Yeah, "mine are initial argument" was that. Oh golly gee, I made a common typo! Well that just invalidates everything I said now doesn't it? If someone feels the need to attack other people so much, maybe the problem isn't other people. Wow yeah, such attacks! I have no idea why you linked me that post. Was...was I supposed to feel....something? Am I supposed to give a shit that you didn't like a thing I said to someone who isn't you? You sit around posting weird non sequiturs about lesbians all…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 05:01 AM
3

So where are all the brave progressive feminist women paying for guys? They're out on dates with men in the real world? I mean, lets be real here, you're your initial argument was that when you go out you somehow are able to observe who is paying for whom everywhere you go (which we all know is BS), so it's not like you actually know how the tab gets paid in most cases. You constantly passive aggressively attack other people's intelligence. If someone makes an absurd, unsupported argument and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 03:38 AM
3

Who are my so-called "friends in the mod team"??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 03:31 AM
1

Where are you seeing this happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 03:29 AM
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. If that is their game I don't care, they just need to be honest I mean, if these bitches are posting roses in their dating profiles (which is supposedly the universally known pay-to-play signal) then I guess they already are being honest..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 03:03 AM
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See, all that time you thought I was a hooker and really I just had 5-10 random men paying my bills and rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 03:01 AM
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The brave and progressive women on reddit say that even if the guy wants to pay they turn him down. I don't know why you're calling them "brave and progressive". Some women absolutely do insist on paying (which personally I find tacky and abrasive but whatever). Other women offer, but if/when the guy insists they let him, meanwhile others yes, expect to be paid for. And? At any point have you ever read that ALL WOMEN DEMAND TO PAY? Thanks for calling me dumb btw, you do that to a lot of people o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 02:46 AM
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The nature of their relationship being different from a LTR or pre-relationship dating wouldn't make the man paying and the woman expecting him to pay any less dumb and entitled, How on earth would you know these women "expected" them to pay? Also, if your boyfriend or date "insists" on paying (as many men do), you're somehow still "entitled"? And if you're married or in an LTR, finances and expenses are often shared anyway. You're talking nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 02:17 AM
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I would normally agree, but I am currently looking for housing on craigslist Idk, that's a bit different though. These men aren't approaching you specifically and offering cash for sex/housing out of nowhere. You just happen to be looking for housing on a sketchy website where some men are looking to take advantage (not in a rape sense, but take advantage of a particular situation).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 01:57 AM
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yet every time I go out to eat, I make a point in looking at who pays when a couple is out at other tables, and it's almost always the guy. Because you know the exact nature of their relationship and whether these couples are in LTRs or even married right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 01:50 AM
2

I can honestly say I have never seen him "whine" not one time in 3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 01:41 AM
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Women get more emotional support because they seek it out. Beta/omega or not, most men still tend not to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 12:56 AM
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But men do things like buy women drinks, pay for their entrance fee, buy them food Things men always did as a part of traditional courtship. offer them rides to a far away definition Not really seeing a lot of this outside of people who are good friends and have often traded favors. be lenient on them when rent is late or even offer a free month's rent, Sort of shady landlords count too now? put gas in their car This must be a lower class phenomenon then because I haven't seen it.. fix their car…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 12:27 AM
1

Well, he's not really "bad". No worse than Bill or Tara really.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 11:53 PM
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Everyone does have a limit of too much violence where it becomes repulsive. I literally had this conversation with two of my friends and both of them said pretty much the exact same thing. JDM is an attractive man but Negan's violence and sadism is a bridge too far. He pushes well past the limits of "edgy bad boy" or even "violent protector" and becomes grotesque.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 10:52 PM
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They don't mean the average guy. They mean Mr Perfect. No, most of them mean the average guy. The reason you hear these complaints is because it's insulting. Not being able to get an average guy to commit to you is a slap in the face. Most women know why Chad won't commit, we aren't stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 10:44 PM
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Not trying to debate the obvious. Which is??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 10:34 PM
4

Is putting "Taco" in your username a code for anything? I have noticed that the majority of women who do so are looking for "donations", but have seen a lot of men's profiles also with the word Taco It's just some dumb hipster OKCupid meme/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 10:33 PM
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I could tweet at Michelle Obama and then read a few excerpts of Fifty Shades to my mother over Skype. HAHAHA!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 10:01 PM
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The OP described the scene pretty well. What scene? The gross STD riddled sex trawling John scene on craigslist? The top post, who gives BP advice around around here all day long, didn't even know what "roses" meant. Seriously. Women have no idea. Why would a woman, who is neither a prostitute nor a man who buys prostitutes know what the hell roses mean? Half of 'dating' out there in America for average dudes is the woman telling you outright what she wants in exchange for pussy...whether it be …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 09:59 PM
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Then what world are you talking about?? The fantasy one that exists only in your head? Because even online normal women aren't routinely offered money for sexual services.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 09:49 PM
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So men looking for escorts are on Tinder and....hookers are on Tinder because their top site was shut down. So what? You aren't very good at this ;) Very good at what? You can't even make a coherent point so lets not get into who isn't very good at what.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 09:35 PM
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Women (provided not overweight/decent looking - although not always) constantly have guys offering them financial help, except those guys want more Bullshit. Out in the real world, normal human men don't go around soliciting women like common whores. No one is "constantly" offering random women cash for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 09:31 PM
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Also, it's been this way for awhile, but most "single" women have between 5-10 men at any given time who are helping them out (cell phone, rent, car, pay off bills) with sexual favors as part of the deal. What the fuck are you talking about? Dating in America has basically been completely monetized (or going that direction), ironic, given prostitution in the US is banned outside a few counties in western Nevada. I mean, if you spend all your time online and/or a very low value male it can seem t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 09:19 PM
2

And? Is there a relevant question in here somewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 09:12 PM
8

That's not exactly a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 09:09 PM
3

Ah, the things we will ignore for an alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 09:09 PM
2

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 07:54 PM
4

Well golly you sure showed me!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 07:51 PM
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Nah, I don't need to try to censor you, half your comments got deleted anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 07:50 PM
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You watch what they do. Not what they say. Hmm, since most women actually aren't out fucking violent, homicidal criminal types, this actually works pretty well here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 02:11 PM
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Just got your PM. OH MY GOD, Steve Buscemi as Nucky Thompson on Boardwalk Empire!? YOU SICK SLUT! *I'm kidding, for all you autists out there who might actually believe that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 01:59 PM
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TELLL MEEEEEEE!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 01:44 PM
2

Someone is not "dumb" or "obtuse" for refusing to accept Atlas' baseless claims just because she stated them a bunch of times. Oh no no, this has nothing to do with Atlas or her making "baseless claims". That person is a member of the IRC and has spoken to many of us directly - at length.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 01:20 PM
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In a gender-flipped scenario the guy would sound smitten.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 12:57 PM
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Women will never be fully truthful about their attraction to the bad boy types. Source? Because I find it hard to believe that the respondents thus far are just making things up for the hell of it. If a woman is admitting to 1-2 of them here, chances are that she actually likes 10 others that she didn't name. Right, so the women here who have listed several gross, violent, ego-maniacal, middle-aged and terrible men are ~lying~ or omitting. Ok....... Just because this is what whiny, angry omegas …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 12:48 PM
1

Excellent answer! Why do you find them attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 12:33 PM
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No, because the person they were replying to is being - and has been - intentionally obtuse. It's not about agreeing or disagreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 12:32 PM
2

Like Eggman, they give up and do nothing: learned helplessness. If someone is that helpless and has totally given up then they shouldn't be part of this discussion. They can go draw comics or play with Legos or something instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 12:31 PM
3

Why wouldn't it be? Or do you propose that incels don't exist? Or that an incel is somehow not a person? What does an incel being a person have to do with whether their opinions on the behaviors and habit of actual sex-having people is valid or not?? Please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 12:30 PM
3

we live in excludes at least half of all men for romantic and sexual opportunities, Source!? Yeah, I thought so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 12:20 PM
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ITT, women are asked a question that most of them are guaranteed to lie about. Meanwhile, most women ITT have responded naming all kinds of violent, sociopathic villains/antagonists, which leads me to believe they're being truthful. So now what? Why the fuck did you even bother responding with this bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 12:13 PM
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Hahaha!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 06:53 AM
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You're making the assumption that incels don't try. I very specifically said that I was referring to the ones who don't try...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 05:37 AM
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animal mother Oh lord. First time I watched FMJ I was in LOVE. Same with whoever the hell Chris Meloni played in Oz before he got all faggy and Dean Winters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 05:26 AM
1

No, it's more like homeless, schizophrenic drug addicts wanting to discuss housing and resources after they've made it clear they have no intention of taking strides to get sober or find a job or participating in normal society. How long should people listen to anything they have to say? How long would their past experience with employment or housing remain relevant since they've been outside the market for so long? At a certain point, they're too far removed from the current state of things for…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 01:32 AM
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Awesome character yes, and I can kind of see the appeal, but what I'm not really seeing is a ton of young women openly lusting after this character. Nothing like the Daryl fanaticism. Especially among the ones who first started crushing on JDM in Grey's Anatomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 01:18 AM
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Tbh I should've know better to engage him in the first place. I haven't heard any women say anything about Negan IRL, yet just from seeing him and his behavior I knew he had unanimous female appeal. This was a clear indicator he was just pulling things out of his ass and arguing feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 12:32 AM
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4 out 5 women find JMD's character of Negan not just offensive, but incredibly unattractive. Because this broad says so! Show me where I said this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 10:30 PM
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someone who's been fucked over by the market and can't participate is still a person whose perspective is just as valid. But....is it though? why do people who dislike incels on principle on want to shut the up feel the need to rationalize it? I can't speak for others - obviously - but I personally don't dislike incels. I do however, fail to understand how people who are not and/or are making zero effort to participate in the SMP have anything worthwhile to contribute toward any discussions rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 10:22 PM
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You know it's true. I know it's true. Sorry, that shit only works for President Trump. Yet you feel the need to challenge me on it, because you're afraid men will know what modern women are actually like and blow up your racket. I "feel the need" to challenge you on it because it's certainly not true for me or any of the other 4 out of 5 women I just asked (the 5th was my mother who actually does find him attractive, but only because she already liked JDM) and I've seen zero proof of his "univer…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 09:53 PM
1

I mean, I'm actually asking...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 09:09 PM
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Come back and try to debate me when you figure out that not every woman you encounter is a teenage tumblr feminist because clearly you're really confused about that at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 09:09 PM
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Question: Why are incels allowed to be a part of discussions relating to the SMP? This is referring specifically to the ones who have given up on dating or never tried and who are effectively non-entities in the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 08:59 PM
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If youre going to rate 80% of men as "below average", you're either an illiterate moron who doesn't know what "average" means, or you're an entitled cunt with a god complex. Or you're a woman who - like many women - has a lot of difficultly trying to rate guys based on pictures alone (especially when so many guys know fuck all about taking good pictures of themselves). At any rate I'm really struggling to understand how rating someone from random photographs as below average means you're "entitl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 08:58 PM
2

Lots of women like Jeffery Dean Morgan, however I've not heard any young(er) women say they find him all that attractive, least of all as Negan. I mean, do you have anything to back this up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 08:55 PM
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I hope the show explores Negan's harem in a realistic way Oh no you don't mean "realistic", you mean in a way that caters to your feels and preconceived notions in the way that you'd like.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 08:53 PM
1

JigglyPuff This is it!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 08:49 PM
1

Feminists love totalitarianism so you have to catch them in public. What do you have to say to that? Well, I find the idea of trying to catch feminists in public like Pokemon pretty hilarious so there's that..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 08:41 PM
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Sarcastic bullshit aside, it has nothing to do with kindness or "settling". Rating someone - BASED ON PICTURES - as "below average" doesn't mean you think they're hideous and would only date them because you're 'settling'. And that still doesn't change anything about what I originally said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 08:39 PM
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Probably like you don't know any women that "divorce raped" their hubby. Nah, I know a woman in the process of doing that now. Or trying to anyway. Still, that changes nothing. Some men leave their wives for younger, more attractive women, some women 'divorce rape'. These are facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 08:36 PM
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If you bothered to read more on that "study" you would see that even though they rated men "below average" they messaged them anyway so this: women rate 85% of the men below average and *flok towards the other 15% * is demonstrably untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 12:01 PM
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How interesting. The way TRP tells it most men are quite unhappy with their women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 11:33 AM
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Happening to marry a woman younger/hotter than your ex after your previous wife left you is not the same as ditching your wife for a newer model. Come on sardonis, you know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 11:31 AM
2

Unless we're going to lock thousands of infants in a dome and start running tests on them in isolated environments for the next few decades Well now that Trump is president........
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 11:19 AM
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Well, tbh I never suffered any such delusions. I mean sure, I was fed some feel-good bullshit about boys and how they'd all grow up to love "brains over beauty" ~someday~ when I was a chubby, teary-eyed gradeschooler crying about how boys teased me and didn't like me back..... but that shit stopped right around age 11/12 (middle school). Aside from that, I was never fed any lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 11:15 AM
1

Legal equality =/= social equality. Please explain this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 10:41 AM
1

Clearly he was joking...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 01:05 AM
1

Idk, even the so-called "BP" women like /u/sublimemongrel tend to be pretty purple when you come right down to it. I mean come on, you've seen the IRC.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 11:55 AM
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In my opinion, it's a little of both and then some. If we all lived in a society where male sexual infidelity was the norm I'm certain many more women would readily accept this as just "the way things are". Doesn't mean they'd like or be okay with it, but I'm willing to bet you hear far less outrage about it and fewer divorces. However, to me me personally, male sexual fidelity is about "resource exclusivity", as well as respect, attraction and sacrifice. If I agree to be married and never touch…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 11:54 AM
1

I'm talking about me and Mercia's anecdotes versus your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 11:46 AM

Ok...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 11:31 AM
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No. It's because I live in one of the largest cities in the world and have a wide variety of friends and associates from all kinds of backgrounds and yet still struggle to find women who discuss or even care about feminism, let alone ones saying they "need" or identify with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 11:24 AM
1

Well, you know what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 11:18 AM
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Ok, I see where the disconnect is and I'm not going to shit all over you for being wrong or misinformed because you're going based on circulation meanwhile my numbers are based on readership.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 11:02 AM
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I wish people would stop using PPD as their backwards ass outlet for anti-feminist rants and gotchas. There are only like 6 vocal feminists on this sub anyway, goddamn.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 09:57 AM
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Feminism is a non-issue in 2017, outside of the internet. This needs to be the top comment, now and forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 09:23 AM
2

No it isn't, what the hell? It's not even in the top 5...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 06:28 AM
2

Tell me y'all aren't doing that. Ok. We're not doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 05:36 AM
2

in online dating women rate 85% of the men below average and flok towards the other 15% Statistics absolutely do not show this, where are you getting this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 05:35 AM
1

an average rejection for a short guy from what I've seen. Well from what I've seen, the 'average rejection' from women is simply no response at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 05:34 AM
1

I don't think you'll find most people here arguing that he should've been removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 05:30 AM
2

But not on fucking mainstream media. The Sun is "mainstream media" now?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 05:29 AM
1

If you clearly say "don't contact me" and the man chooses to violate your boundary, the cops would intervene and, bare minimum, interview him, and almost certainly arrest him. This would never happen under these circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 05:21 AM
1

It's really not that fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 04:35 AM
1

what is creepy to a 2016 New Yorker is damn similar to what was creepy to a Roman woman, or African bush babe. How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 08:41 AM
1

Paul Bernardo had the added help of his young, attractive female co-conspirator and wife though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:37 AM
2

Actually serial killers usually aren't creepy Actually, most of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:36 AM
2

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 07:59 AM
1

We can just look what happens historically when a large percentage of the male population gets wiped out by war. What happened then?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 07:44 AM
2

I find it interesting that as a young woman I can see all these things quite clearly, yet many older, more experienced people - mainly men - don't. The gregarious, overtly sexual, extroverted, loud, "opinionated" and forward women tend to be the ones who have the most sex. They both attract and seek it out the most. They also tend to be the most comfortable with being intimate with new people. Yet all this does ignored and people focus SOLELY on the number of partners they've had. It's weird to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 11:02 AM
2

What does that have to do with me (supposedly) being a feminist who hates men??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:52 AM
2

I'd like to know how you got any of that bullshit from what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:03 AM
2

Interesting. At any rate, I mean I've always thought that with high n-count women, it wasn't the actual number that made some of them less suitable for marriage, but the personality traits and values that got them a higher partner count to begin with. I was saying something like this maybe last weekend on here, I'll see if its not too far down in my history and link it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:02 AM
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Inb4 someone tells you RP tells men not to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 08:28 AM
1

When you have $20 in your bank account a shitty job is a MASSIVE improvement over no job. You people are so desperate to make your "but women should just take any old/ugly/fat guy because its better than nothing!11!" analogy that you're getting stupid with economics. A job that cannot pay your bills and rent, or put food on your table is useless. You are practically in the same predicament as a jobless person. Unemployed and severely underemployed people often wind up in the same position. Broke…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 04:02 AM
2

The US doesn't strongly frown upon divorce Try getting divorced in the bible belt and see if you don't face ostracization and backlash from friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 03:51 AM
1

Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 07:30 PM
1

And?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 04:28 PM
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Too personal yes, but mostly, trading online dating horror always struck me as uncomfortable and unnecessary. If the stories are any good (and believe me I have some doozies) I've found it's always best to leave those for subsequent dates. Hearing about how you've been bombarded by perverts and crazies is terrible first date fodder and to some it can come off as though their previous experiences have been so awful that they're now willing to settle for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 03:41 PM
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Again, my only disagreement was with the idea that conquering isn't part of the appeal for SOME men who openly express a preference for virgins. Otherwise, I'm fully aware that the rest of the men who do this are either insecure or trying to make women (who previously rejected them) feel like shit for not being "pure". Mostly, it doesn't matter anyway. Seriously, no one cares. Premarital sex has been a thing for decades now and normal Western men (white, black, hispanic, etc) don't care. In the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 03:34 PM
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Sounds like dragoness might've enjoyed her little conquering I have no idea what this means. I still think those personality typed men tend to not be so hot in the sack too. I dunno. My ex was...well, not obsessed with virgins but...he'd often expressed detailed fantasies revolving around virgins/inexperienced women back when we were platonic friends and I totally attributed that to his poor performance in the sack. ....And then we had sex. It was hands down the best sex of my life. Consistently…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 03:25 PM
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Isn't that because those women tend to be from extremely devout/religious background and from cultures/regions which strongly frown upon divorce, as well as premarital sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:59 PM
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Aren't you like.....a huge male slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:58 PM
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Lol, as if slut week is only an anal annual thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:57 PM
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but I'm telling you, as a man, that's just a line. Just because you're a man doesn't mean you know how each and every other man thinks. Men like to conquer things, this has been proven throughout history. Cities, nations, virgins, other men's wives, whatever. Now am I saying this is the case for all men who obsess over virgins? No. But let's not pretend it's 100% about insecurity/inadequacy all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:54 PM
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You should be thankful I'm being trill and honest about this because most guys wont Lmao, do you even know who you're talking to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:42 PM
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I'd imagine they're similarly offensive to the respective sexes both are typically used toward.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 11:40 AM
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Yeah, this is a pretty good comparison. Either one is a tacit accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 09:06 AM
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What on earth are you talking about? If men want DNA tests they can pay the money to get them done on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 07:07 AM
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According to whom? An income you can't survive on is virtually the equivalent of nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 09:19 PM
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How is an $8/hr job going to pay my bills/rent, let alone feed my family??
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:40 PM
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not needing to put forth any effort LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:22 PM
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usually every date I would ask about fucked up experiences but it honestly was fascinating. I HATED when guys did this omg.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:20 PM
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Women can't be abusive alcoholics? Did he say that though? Still, relatively few women ever have to deal with the risk of being killed or seriously abused in a relationship, And? Does that mean it doesn't happen more often to women than to men? What does "relatively few" have to do with anything? the probability of that happening to a woman can be easily diminished by not making stupid choices of partners and/or not being lower class. The risk of ending up on a date with a serial killer are incr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:17 PM
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I'm a woman and I don't get it. I don't know. I feel like I don't get it... but also I kind of do. It's really just a nuisance more than anything else. However I have to say, being a woman in a (happy) relationship and finding yourself constantly being "street harassed" (and I mean like, a bit more than just the occasional cat-call) can push you to a point where you start hating being irritated with most men in general. I know for a fact that in the past when I've been in relationships, other me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:58 PM
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First, they are options. A job offer at a company I don't want to work for is still a job offer Sure, but a job offer from McDonald's when you have a law degree isn't exactly an attractive or viable option.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 01:39 PM
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It's basically, "Why don't you have perfect foresight? Why can't you be satisfied with not having the peace of mind that your partner has?" No, it's more like why can't you see how hurtful and insulting that would be? why can't you quietly do the test on your own without humiliating or accusing her? because no matter what, that's exactly how it's going to come across.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 11:40 AM
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I keep hearing that claim bandied about in this thread, yet not one person has provided a single source that that's the case. I mean, I'm not saying you're wrong but, can you just imagine how much the government would gouge us if they had to do mandatory paternity testing? Genetic testing is a medical issue, paternity testing is a personal/private one. Also, tbh I really don't want to government having a sample of everyone's DNA from birth. Let's not pretend like they're above doing something ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 11:37 AM
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. The fact that you had sex or have a GF is really not that impressive. To anyone. This. Literally, no one outside of high school cares (and frankly even by senior year no one gives a shit) if someone has had sex or a relationship whatsoever. It's just expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 11:16 AM
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Even in my patriarchal Italian ancestry family the males will be like 'hey, that's good, she's a virgin' not 'omg shes a virgin me must have now!' It's something positive sure, but not make or break. Right. See this is what I think people aren't getting when Atlas talks about 'virgin hysteria'. No one is saying men would think its a bad thing or would be 100% indifferent, but most men I know aren't checking for virgins like that nor would they absolutely lose their minds should they find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 11:10 AM
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This isn't necessarily true. Liking sex doesn't automatically mean you will cheat. Some guys are fuck their way through their youths and then look to settle down with a hot piece of ass that's into the same things they are. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 10:47 AM
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Why wouldn't most women have sex with Chad? Because most women aren't looking for a casual fuck or pump & dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 03:06 AM
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Chad gets in the way of sex AND commitment whereas Stacy only gets in the way of commitment? No, because not all women fuck Chad, but most men would love to fuck Stacy if she were offering NSA sex for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 02:08 AM
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The goal of slut shaming, imo is to get women to mature and build some self esteem. I don't understand how shaming someone is supposed to build self-esteem. It's like beating a dog because they piss on the kitchen floor. The dog doesn't stop peeing indoors, they just start doing it while hiding behind the couch.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 01:50 AM
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I mean, you keep saying that but I literally just gave you a list of ways someone can change to make themselves more attractive. Clearly this isn't a genuine CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 03:00 AM
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Whinning about chad and "unfairness" is not red pill. Worrying about "fairness" is moralizing and the whole point of trp is that knowledge is amoral. I don't see how anyone who reads TRP can say this. TRP is full of moralizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 06:17 PM
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Implying they've been pumped and dumped before. You don't need to have been pumped and dumped to understand some guys are only after sex. I knew it well before I even lost my virginity and the idea was further solidified when I started dating as an adult. No pumps and dumps required, I just witness the SMP with my own two eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 05:17 PM
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I want to know how these women are leading them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 04:54 PM
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How are they comparable?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 04:42 PM
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Men's body characteristics are less important so clothing improves less. Well I'm saying it isn't so much about bodies as it's about the image/message it conveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 04:08 PM
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I absolutely think some aspects of TRP are delusional as are many red pillers. I think it's pretty hard to deny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 02:59 PM
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No but my instinct isn't to behave as women do. You behave exactly as many women do though, albeit on a more....extreme scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 02:58 PM
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Well, I don't follow your personal 1-4 scale so I can't really comment on that. Unless there's any of these changes going on his smv won't change except for a few points. And? A few points is all many men need really. The rational non-looksism ones anyway. Things like clothing won't get much attention because men unlike women don't have a huge room of improvement A lot of men dress like disheveled slobs, have no sense of what looks good on them and rock terrible haircuts/facial hair. A change in…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 02:10 PM
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Wub never said "TRP doesn't work" though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 11:39 AM
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TFW two opposite sex prospective sugarbabies collide, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 06:24 PM
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Well, I see a fist emoji and a blank square. Sorry, I'm on android :(.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 06:22 PM

Well, to be perfectly honest, this wasn't ever really an issue of "equality", or feminism or women thinking they can do a man's job or whatever. At least not in THIS particular instance. Frankly, most of the work legitimately was too difficult/physically demanding for most women, let alone the women they hired. It was a shit job, the hours were long and our bosses were asshole taskmasters who were always looking to work people to the bone if/when they could get away with it. And they had this ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 06:20 PM
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That's the plan!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 03:32 PM
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What I want to do is hear some stories of those have experienced what we would call alpha widow hurt, what happened [...] Well, I was beta widowed once, not sure if that counts though, but I'll answer anyway. What happened was.... It was my first real, serious, grownup big girl relationship. We lived together. He made me laugh and we had a LOT of weird, random bullshit in common that I clung to. Oh, and the sex was out of this world. So there was that... I ended things after it became clear the …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 03:30 PM
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I damn sure don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 01:50 PM
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Not gonna lie....I kind of love this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 01:49 PM
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HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD. Damn bruh, do you even Big Brother...............or file taxes (although tbf, idk what - if anything - is the equivalent of HOH in your corner of the world).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 01:48 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 01:46 PM
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I mean hey, I was naive, this was only like my 2nd relationship, I was trying too hard to be that cool girl fantasy chick who was totally down for whatever and never got upset, I didn't have firm any boundaries.. etc. It was just one big hot mess that I didn't know how to navigate. Still, even though it took me a minute, I finally learned and nexted. HARD.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 01:45 PM
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Companionship, joy, sex, humor, someone to share burdens, chores, bills and living expenses with, love, a father for your children and HOH.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 11:12 AM
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and the boss said "don't worry ladies, I don't make the women do this." Not as a joke but like completely serious that was his policy. Oh I can believe that 100%. At the job I was talking about previously you'd hear similar things. Given that it was a male-dominated environment, "gender roles" were in effect in many cases. If the work seemed too strenuous for the women (aka, if enough women stood around looking helpless), or enough of them complained (see: whined), we'd all get moved to somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:34 AM
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nothing inherently wrong with pointing out people you find attractive unless you know your partner doesn't like it. I love the "who's hot in this room, let's talk about it" game, See but even then (I imagine for most people anyway) there are still limits. There's also a time, a place and a way of doing things. A man looking at a receptionist's rack and going "see, now that's the perfect cup size", or a guy who HAS to make a comment on EVERY hot woman he sees is rarely going to be received warmly…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:13 AM
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We have a winner!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:00 AM
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well if anything, she was more attractive than that doctor guy. She was older of course, and a single mother, but she had money to compensate Lmao I was literally JUST in the IRC talking about how unattractive he was not 2 minutes ago. Like wtf. Let's hope it becomes a deadbedroom by then ;) Yhea you wish, You'd be surprised how.........saggy some 45+ year olds can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 09:53 AM
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To marry her I'd need more though, hence the cash. I guess you could call me a gold-digger? Yeah, pretty much. Not that there's (necessarily) anything wrong with that though. Now don't get me wrong, I think it's shitty and fucked up when people fake romantic feelings and sexual attraction full stop. But personally, I'm of the opinion that any rich person who gets with someone (often much) younger, far less wealthy but far more attractive pretty much knows the deal and it comes out to a fair trad…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 09:39 AM
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Even blonde pig-tail girl may do or say things which raise alarm bells. Yeah, you guys keep telling yourselves that if you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 09:26 AM
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Well, yes and no. While it also means that, a whore is and has always been first and foremost, someone who fucks for cash or goods.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 09:22 AM
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but don't you think that pointing out someone else's attractiveness isn't dread and manipulation, but just, you know, conversation material I don't know, if every time you went out with your GF she commented on how huge the waiter's dick imprint looked, or how tall and hot she thought the bartender was, would you find that to be appropriate "conversation material"? If you're insecure about your own attractiveness and about your partner's (whom you yourself judge as unattractive) attraction to yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 09:18 AM
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Man, I would sell tickets to this attempt and comfortably retire on the profits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:17 AM
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If he thinks hes better looking than it makes sense for him to behave like hes better looking Not OP (obviously) but IME, if he thinks you're decidedly more attractive (or has been told so by outsiders), he will ACT like he's hotter/the better catch, etc. However I'm not saying this is all men in those situations either (because we all know some guys get with better looking girls and practically worship the ground they walk on) and it isn't solely based on looks, but it's for sure something I've…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:33 AM
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Less attractive men are likelier to play games in an attempt to keep you interested, I've noticed this too. Especially when it comes to trying to employ dread (whether its intentional or not) or chipping away at your self-esteem. The cutest, most confident guys I've ever dated seemed to only have eyes for me; meanwhile the least attractive ones with the most insecurities couldn't go two seconds without pointing out how cute the waitress was, or letting me know how hot he found XYZ actress on wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:26 AM
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Oh, I said this in another comment but it works here too: I used to work for the USPS doing package handling (the really, really heavy stuff, bulk tires/car parts, large electronics, aquariums, etc) and I ran into similar attitudes. I guess to answer your question, I assume you must live in a city. City people are weak by nature, I've realized that ever since I moved.. we treat our women with true equality here Hmm, you may be onto something. I mean, I don't necessarily agree that "city people a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 05:23 AM
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I don't know, but I used to work for the USPS doing package handling (the really, really heavy stuff, bulk tires/car parts, large electronics, aquariums, etc) and I ran into similar attitudes. And I was really fat back then so I was also pretty...idk strong I guess, but I also felt ridiculous being so fat but acting like a priss who couldn't lift or do anything. I almost fucked my back up at the ripe old age of 22 trying to ~prove~ something. I don't think it was resentment for the most part tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 05:08 AM
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All a slut does is ruin her LTR prospects, its just sad really. I don't know about that. I seem to see plenty of sluts getting into successful LTRs. The sluts got to mess around, have fun and then fuck their way into relationships until they landed the catch THEY wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 02:11 AM
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LOL, you are really salty...and reaching. Settle down lad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 12:30 AM
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Well, I think that's the very definition of a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 12:19 AM
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Before I follow you down a rabbit hole of distractions and digressions, I'll just clarify my original point which you've decided to pick apart ad nauseum: What? Ok, why are you even arguing with me? I disagreed with ONE particular part of your comment and chimed in. For some bizarre reason you got your panties in a twist over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 12:18 AM
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Hahaha, oh shit D:. Anyway, I mean, that's definitely a time where "tattling" is justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:31 PM
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The only time I ever aggressively pursued a man was when I was on vacation this summer and open to a hook up with this guy I met. And I didn't even really pursue him, he started dancing with me initially and asked to buy me a drink after a couple songs. Really the only "aggressive" thing I did was be overtly flirtatious, dance suggestively and otherwise give off clear DTF vibes. He was hot as hell, I was like 6 months post break up with no sex and on vacation. But otherwise? Nah. Not only do I n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:28 PM
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It's not about branch-swinging.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:13 PM
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Why not? Doesn't TRP say that if a man insists on getting into an LTR he should choose a woman who is at least a point or so below him with a low n-count........for security reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:12 PM
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Only if he's much less attractive than she is. He doesn't have to be much less attractive than her. If she's a 7 who mainly dates 5s and 6s, it is far less likely he's dated many 7+ women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:09 PM
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Some women are fully capable of leaving their pasts in the past and many people either don't bother or don't LIKE to discuss a partner's sexual past in any great detail for a number of reasons. Retroactive jealousy ranking highly among them. And again, if she's looking to hide her past, she'd have no trouble lying, omitting and covering her tracks. Tell me a hypothetical situation where you think this would come up over the years in a relationship? Do normal couples in LTRs really sit around tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:02 PM
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Lmao I just read the thing about the notes!! Omg some guys are just fucking retards. They care SO MUCH about even suspected sluts it's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:47 PM
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I sort of agree, but see my edit on my initial reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:31 PM
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Exactly. I mean I have a whole thread full of dudes telling me WHY they slut shame. Yet somehow this isn't something men do...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:24 PM
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It's not just online. I have seen salty dudes try to put women on blast for "being a ho" IRL who can't wait to go tattling to the next dude about what a great big slut she supposedly is. Edit: holy shit, and I completely forgot about the time some guys I knew IRL ran across me on a dating site and tried to see if I would respond to sexual messages/requests or fucked on the first date to see if I was a "lowkey ho" or something like that. I gotta find those damn screenshots.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:22 PM
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Slut shaming just like art and music is all about expressing your feelings. Haha, I like this explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:19 PM
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Do you tell the truth and have your relationship value that much lowered(possibly/probably below the threshold) or lie or hope that topic never comes up for the rest of your relationship. I guess it would depend on how likely I felt it was I'd be found out vs how badly my partner would take my slutty past. If I didn't think it was a possibility I'd be discovered and felt a high n-count would be a dealbreaker I'd probably lie. I mean, even assuming guilt wouldn't be an issue if the relationship l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:17 PM
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Diluting my argument only weakens yours. So, me using hyperbole is somehow now "diluting your argument"? Ok. I never once said men weren't attracted to "shapely asses and breasts in the past". I specifically said SOME of those things weren't seen as attractive in response to your comment about big tits and asses. And I was more so talking about big asses because I don't think men were calling for broads with big fat Kardashian asses in the 1930s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:09 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:51 PM
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Wait, if women are so hard to come by for him, why would he care how many guys she's fucked? It's a rare opportunity to get a woman right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:51 PM
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Yeah idk, I feel like the girl getting drunk in a hot tub with a guy she just started dating and her friends is probably vastly different from the girl interested in hiding her past. Me personally, I'd tell the truth as I have nothing to hide but if I were to lie, no one but me would know. Still, it's not really something men ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:45 PM
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You mean do I have evidence for the claim that big asses or horse cocks weren't seen as desirable in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:42 PM
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Lmao. I legit thought about that right after I hit send.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 12:25 PM
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Fine, give up on US for some blue haired feminazi BDSM lover with a daddy/little fetish. SEE IF I CARE!!11!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 12:17 PM
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Not with that attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 12:13 PM
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Fucking a girl who has had 50 other dicks in her is not much of an accomplishment and you can't have any confidence that she will be around very long. My question is, why would a man care about the n-count of the chicks in his harem? SLUTS ARE FOR FUCKING, remember? What is there to conquer or "accomplish" if you're just going to throw her in a pile with a half dozen other women you sometimes fuck? Why waste a "good girl's" time?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 12:03 PM

Hahahaha, I cannot stand you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:32 AM
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What? Are you high right now? How can you not know what you meant by what YOU said?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:02 AM
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Well, maybe you're right. After all, I DID say "I think", not that I was 100% certain.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:00 AM
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That's an extreme, extreme hypothetical. Well whatever the case, having only a few partners doesn't mean you've not had good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:51 AM
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then you would be well in your rights not to date that person. Ok but when did I say otherwise and what does that have to do with what I previously said being 'too broad a definition'?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:14 AM
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Define it for yourself then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:17 AM
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Well shit, you said it, I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:17 AM
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OOh, well I mean I was responding to Gin's comment about "slut-tells" and basically saying that I too tick off many supposed "slut" boxes. The skirt thing was merely one of them. But I mean, lets not pretend some men don't think attire is one particular indicator, however misguided. Still, my comment wasn't about me purposely trying to look like a slut or "fool" anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:50 AM
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What are you even saying right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:23 AM
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Well I really don't see how I was "fooling" anyone then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:11 AM
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The same way that tall men are lusted after and that big tits and arse lead to arousal, slutty women are instinctively off-putting. Yeah but I mean, you do realize that some of these things weren't lusted over in the not-so-distant past.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 05:48 AM
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I have no idea what this means. And who am I fooling or trying to fool?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 05:24 AM
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How do you figure this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 05:01 AM
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Yeah I'm not really sure what the connection is and he's not exactly being forthcoming.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:49 AM
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No, but you specifically asked why sluts ACT slutty and I posited why. Again, I still don't get your meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:48 AM
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I think there's a certain type of man who slut-shames but I can't quite put my finger on it. I still tend to think there is a bit of a jealousy factor and agree that probably a majority of those who slut shame (even if it's a mere 51%) are either unattractive or awkward and resentful, but given the fact that I've seen and heard numerous "sex having" men do this, I won't go so far as to say it's strictly based on sexual jealousy. I mean, even among men who say, like you, that they essentially app…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:36 AM
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Right? All it seems to do is drive "sluttery" further underground and teach women to hide it better. I know sluts who could run circles around Mary Poppins in terms of how sweet and domestic they appear to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:33 AM
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Oh god, between my swearing, clubbing, drinking, heavy makeup and short skirts you'd think I was the BIGGEST slut since Jezebel. And yet....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:28 AM
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I mean, I've been called all kinds of low self-esteem having sluts and whores for not having sex with a particular dude (or hell, just not wanting to give him my number) but that's a little bit different from what I'm talking about here. That kind of thing isn't even really slut-shaming, it's just lashing out due to rejection by a specific woman and trying to hit her with a low blow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:24 AM
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Now ask yourself why sluts act slutty. To get sex and sexual attention? That said, I'm still not making the connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:22 AM
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Oh! I'm not dicking you around bae, I'm making that single mom thing into a better, more well thought out post soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:20 AM
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Anything from mocking women for having a lot of partners in general to calling out specific women IRL for having had sex with XYZ dudes. Trying to put them on blast by telling other people whom they've (supposedly) had sex with, calling them names on social media, making up all kinds of character assessments and negative value judgements based on the fact that they've had sex with many men, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:14 AM
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They're told anything less than getting a signed consent form at every step is rape. They aren't told this. This is some bullshit said by a small faction of radical tumblr feminists. This is not a mainstream idea. Do you really think most 26 year old women out there are demanding men get express verbal consent? But they're also told to just go for it and stop being a pussy. They're told to read social cues and react accordingly. The real problem is that a lot of men out there are inept and socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:00 AM
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The evidence will become apparent as you progress in your relationship. Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 03:52 AM
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Well, it's not really something you can fake. Your ethier a traditionally girl or not. But see, I know plenty of "traditional" women with storied pasts who "play the role" quite well. Meanwhile I'm more "traditionally minded" when it comes to relationships, yet nothing about me would speak to that at first glance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 03:51 AM
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Well, that doesn't really make sense. The women who "shame" nice guys are usually doing so because they find them grasping and awkward and/or believe they're using "niceness" to "get sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 03:48 AM
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Lots about our personality and values is communicated indirectly. Some things sure, but how does one tell whether a woman has had 4 partners or 40, especially if she's not trying to make that information known? No noble prizes are awarded for guessing if Snooki is a virgin or not Well no, because she repeatedly had sex on Jersey Shore and she's married with like two kids...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 03:47 AM
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I dunno, I think it's something more than that. There are plenty of men who don't exactly have to struggle much to get laid yet still slut shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 03:34 AM
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We express our values in every way we present ourselves and interact with others I mean, are you saying sluts look and act a particular way?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 03:28 AM
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If a man is in a stable relationship with a high SMV non-slut woman, then it makes sense to slut shame so other men would get less and he would be perceived as high-status. Well, IMO it would make more sense in that case (not that I agree with it either way but still), however not for the reasons you stated. I could totally see a guy slut-shaming around his woman in an attempt to curtail her hypergamy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 03:24 AM
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I always thought that was such a socially awkward, cornball concept. If a girl is kissing you back, touching your junk, tugging at your clothes, etc and not telling you firmly "no" or "stop" then she is consenting non-verbally and enthusiastically as possible. However, while I do think the idea of "affirmative consent" - especially when it takes the form of requiring a verbal YES! or a weird Q & A session: (i.e., can I do xyz? are you okay? etc) - is silly, as a woman who was once young and inex…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 03:13 AM
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However, large groups family minded men do look at a woman's past, that is reality. Right, but with more and more people living in major cities and often moving through different social circles as they age, how exactly can this be done? Save for a handful of longtime friends from childhood, most of my friends only know me going back to about 2013 or so. If a guy tried to look into my past he'd mostly run into a brick wall. If a woman wants a traditional family then she is wise to play the part, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 02:59 AM
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You're back!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 02:54 AM
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They don't know how to relate to women who like toe-curling sex since they have not had it themselves. Having a low n-count doesn't mean you haven't had good sexual experiences though. You can have an n-count of 3, from previous LTRs, one or two of whom might have been into wild public sex or making homemade porn, using toys, etc. Low n-count men can't relate to high-N women generally because the personality type (extro, highly sociable, makes friends easily, etc) it takes to be the kind of pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 02:32 AM
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Do you attend crowded places often? It happens all the time at festivals and concerts, crowded subways, men, women, whatever -- people are handsy. It happens. There's a difference between being briefly - and accidentally - touched by a stranger on a crowded train and having some dude try to grab a handful of your ass, or put his hand up your skirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 01:24 AM
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Well, you didn't "verbalize intent", you gave her a command to kiss you. That being said, I don't like it when guys give me a play by play of what they're going to do, it's a turn off. I also don't like it when they ask permission to do every little thing, however I expect them to be able to read a situation well enough to know what is or isn't appropriate for the time, place or person. "Suck my dick" is not something I'd respond positively to unless we've already had sex and established a rappo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 01:19 AM
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First, wow that you think a 7 month dry spell is like, the end of the world and second wow that you consider that worse than groping.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 01:01 AM
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Basically "side eye".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 10:59 PM
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Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 10:59 PM
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But you're arguing about "emotional damage" from a grope while ignoring that caused by never getting laid, a drive only slightly below hunger. I'm assuming you think not getting laid is worse than being groped by a stranger?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 09:02 AM
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You're in control of a fantasy, not an actual rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 08:50 AM
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