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Holy crap, that is beautiful.
/r/MGTOW27/09/18 09:40 PM
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I think it just creates a stain, I don't think it would cause injury, but I'm not expert.
/r/MGTOW27/09/18 05:27 PM
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Maybe to absolute top women can act that way but for the top guys, women do pursue them often and they do have their pick of a LOT of women, albeit maybe not all of the ones that he would choose. So I agree in part but not totally. Some dudes have women coming on to them quite often, which basically amounts to those women offering him easy sex.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 09:27 PM
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Yeah, that's an easy call.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 09:22 PM
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Holy Crap!
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 09:13 PM
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Good luck with that. :)
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 09:09 PM
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"Less people are getting married to start with" Amen to that. MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 05:57 PM
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Great advice.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 05:55 PM
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She's just a flat out liar. I wouldn't believe a word she says. I'm surprised that someone gave her a platform to spew that bullshit. Don't believe a word of it. She's a master manipulator.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 05:52 PM
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Well, she's only 3, so yeah, she doesn't understand how hurtful it is. The wife though, wow.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 05:48 PM
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Women need monogamy and/or commitment from men for 3-5 years after the birth of a child, then they prefer polygamy again; generally speaking, there are always exceptions. Men want variety but are willing to give that up for a stable relationship with one women, generally speaking. The problems start when the woman has her kid and is back to work and determines that she doesn't need the man any more because he's boring and no longer attractive to her. If they're married it's an even better deal b…
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 05:45 PM
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Fantastic, that is so awesome, dude.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 05:21 PM
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Yeah, let go of the hate however you can. It's frustrating, I get it, but it only hurts you, ultimately. A MGTOW without hate in their heart is at true Master/Guru status. When you're indifferent and/or above the fray, you're in a good place and truly free. I'm not there yet but I'm hoping that I'm close.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 05:19 PM
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You have reached "Guru" level in MGTOW. I'm right on your heals with most of what you said. T-shirts, old shoes, etc... I'm also doing quite well but nobody would know it.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 03:58 PM
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You're on the wrong sub. You're describing an authoritarian police state, or something. Orwellian shit. Not interested in oppressing women, or anyone for that matter, just interested in protecting my own self interests.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 03:47 PM
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Thanks for sharing. MGTOW makes so much sense when you see stories like this.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 03:18 PM
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Yeah, let's do away with due process. After that, chaos, anarchy, etc... If she thinks it's bad now, wait until it's all about mob rule and then see how women fair. I'm thinking that she hasn't thought this through very well.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 03:13 PM
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The ways of MGTOW are pretty solid. It's a pragmatic set of choices designed to mitigate the threats that society poses to men in particular. So it's hard to fight the built in logic. As far as men at large, most have grown up revering and cherishing women. That seems to be the AMALT setting. We open doors, we don't hit, we hold the chair out, we give them our coat if they're cold. We'll defend her honor against other men, or be the hero and go to war for her and die for her, if need be. We basi…
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 03:03 PM
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Glad Joe deigned to respond in the first place.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 02:52 PM
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Yes, now that you're a world traveler, you're interesting. Enjoy, and remember what got you the attention! :)
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 02:50 PM
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Beautiful. Where did you go?
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 02:49 PM
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Great advice.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 02:46 PM
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Best of luck.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 02:45 PM
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"I am man. Men need to take responsibility for their own lives and actions......" So be it. And when they do, STFU and stop shaming and ridiculing them for their choices. MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 10:56 PM
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Great advice. Get a GOOD fucking lawyer.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 10:52 PM
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Borrow money for the retainer. Get a GOOD lawyer. It will be the best money you spent even if it takes time to pay off. Also, fight for 50% custody of the children and make sure to split not only the family assets, but the family debt. If you get 50% custody, then child support should be reduced. If she can't show that she can live on her own then you may get more than 50% custody and owe even less, although it sounds like she'll go after alimony if she's jobless. Once she does get a job, have t…
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 10:51 PM
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Well, she successfully convinced herself that it's all men and not women that are responsible for unwanted pregnancies. Takes a certain kind of hate and self delusion to come to that conclusion. Doesn't sound mentally stable and she certainly sounds like she hates men. So there's that.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 10:39 PM
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I like this Tom character.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 10:16 PM
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LOL. Holy crap, this is brutal. But damn funny.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 10:15 PM
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Well if that's what it is then she's just being stupid.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 10:04 PM
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I don't blame men for stepping back from mentoring young women in the workplace. Let some other simp do it and let him risk losing his career. Don't buy into the fucking bullshit. Make the best decisions for your long term professional well being. Let the other virtue-signaling douche bags lose their jobs when a mentoring "misunderstanding" ends up in some dude getting fired and black listed from his industry. Fuck that noise.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 09:25 PM
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LOL. I think that's just the front of her blouse, although I'm not sure what style that would be. Definitely not big enough to be a coat though.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 09:18 PM
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Certain amount of entitlement and privilege showing. They don't see it, of course. To them, it's male privilege that's at work, what with all these guys approaching. No thought to what it takes to actually work up the nerve to approach someone you're attracted to, especially if you're average looking, which, according to OKCupid, 80% of men are BELOW average looking to women.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 09:15 PM
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I'm even more suspicious of the 2nd allegation and those after that. Women will support each other. So they see one person make an accusation and even if the guy didn't do anything to them, they never liked him or he was mean to them, etc... so they support the original accuser by saying he was a dick to them too. Kind of like the mattress girl situation. Now it looks like the guy assaulted everyone he ever met but collectively, every one of his victims held silent until exactly the same number …
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 09:06 PM
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Amen to that. Sorry about your boss. At least he was doing something he liked. I'm with you on all points. Peace.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 09:02 PM
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I guess we're a cynical bunch!? :) LOL.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 09:00 PM
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LOL. Fucking awesome.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 04:26 PM
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The fuck is this shit? Junior High?
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 04:25 PM
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Yes, MGTOW seems to just be getting traction in the last 2 years or so. I can't believe it took this long for men to start comparing notes and waking up. Hope this helps young men from now on.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 04:23 PM
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She should have brought her own coat. And, if he's chivalrous and offers his coat, then she'll just be offended and call him a pig anyway. Fucked no matter what you do.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 04:21 PM
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Even odds that she says she was raped. That way she can change the story from "I cheated" if she needs to. Like when whoever fucked her starts bragging about it to friends.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 03:32 PM
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So it's because less people are getting married and the ones that do are the ones that can afford it. So marriage is a sign of wealth. ​ Not sure these are positive developments. Also, grey divorce is skyrocketing, so there's no assurance that these couples won't get divorced in their 60's or 70's. If they get married later, they'll most likely divorce later, as a generation, IMO.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 03:30 PM
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Some dude will volunteer to simp and self flagellate for her in hopes of earning her attention and possible sex, and then she'll resent and disrespect him for it. Because, who wouldn't?
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 03:24 PM
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She had her chance and made her choice. You paid the price. Don't pay that price a second time. Let her know that it didn't work for a reason and that you've moved on. Wish her good luck in life and tell her not to contact her again. The block her number. Most of the time when they come back it's because they're in a bad place emotionally or financially and want to take advantage of you all over again and are hoping they can still manipulate you. Make no mistake, it's all manipulation. Fuck that…
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 03:08 PM
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Not all ideas are good. You don't have to 'hate'. But pointing out that some ideas are flat out terrible is perceived as misogyny. Actually, everything is misogyny nowadays, so it really is a meaningless word that no longer carries any weight with most men. It's one of those words that gets used when some woman is employing shaming tactics when she's trying to paint some dude as a hater because he disagreed with her on some minor point. Fuck that. This girl is deliberately stirring the pot so th…
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 02:55 PM
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The fact that more and more men are waking up to the forces that are dramatically influencing their lives at younger and younger ages and are taking positive action to eliminate the impact of those forces so that they can live freer lives is very motivating. If every man did this, what would the world look like?
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 02:38 PM
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Yeah, women, mostly, are saying they don't like it because it makes men rapists (no proof of that) and makes men see women as objects (no proof of that, or no proof of making them see women MORE as objects than they do already, if that's a true statement to begin with. It's certainly not true for most of us). ​ Really though, it's all bullshit. The women don't like it because robots are making money that they could be making. Men have been losing jobs to technology for years. This is no differen…
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 02:32 PM
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This quote never gets old. I love seeing it repeatedly. I'm hoping everyone internalizes it, lives their lives for themselves and not others. ​ Peace, everyone.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 02:10 PM
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Wondered where this was going. LOL.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 02:08 PM
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Nice. Where is that?
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 02:03 PM
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What is with these women?
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 10:05 PM
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45 days is good. I would say though, that if she actually identified someone and turned his life to shit, then I'd give her the max.
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 10:02 PM
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Here, here!
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 06:41 PM
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One line in article: "It’s time for me to learn what its like to have someone to FALL BACK on when I feel weak." (Emphasis mine) Remember, nice guy, you're a fall back. Any time another bad boy makes her think she's got a chance with him, she's gone. LOL. The interesting thing is that guys her age have learned to not be nice guys, because they see it doesn't count for shit with women. So they learn to be 'bad boys' or whatever, and when her priorities change she realizes that her actions, along …
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 06:30 PM
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LOL. Oh man. Thanks for the laugh.
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 06:21 PM
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You sound ahead of the game. I tend toward nihilism as well, but I do find things to live for. Basically, the most fulfillment that I've heard people say they feel is when they are doing things for others. Primarily, when people have become successful in their own lives, they then give back. So, it may be counter-intuitive, but concentrating on your own personal success and being selfish about your own priorities and always putting yourself first when you're young, is actually a good thing. It a…
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 06:17 PM
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I didn't watch the video because I don't believe a word that comes out of her mouth at this point.
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 06:00 PM
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Yep, it all comes down to personal choice.
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 04:54 PM
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Fucking great response. Couldn't have said it better.
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 09:42 PM
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"felt like getting head from a lamprey" Holy fuck, I almost fell out of my chair. LOL. Thanks for that.
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 09:40 PM
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Great post. Yeah, once you understand that sex is not that big of a deal, you treat people, women, differently. You're more natural around them because you don't give a fuck. Best line ever "Working on myself FOR THEM? No, I want to do things for me." Exactly. Stay with that and you'll never go wrong. Sounds like you're on the right path and have your head on straight. Keep us updated. All the best to you in your travels and experiences.
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 09:23 PM
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nuff said. :)
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 09:09 PM
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I go to sporting events alone all the time. Not much of a concert goer, but I would if the opportunity came up. That is, nothing would be stopping me. I LOVE doing things alone and on my own schedule.
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 09:07 PM
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What is also interesting is that in the interviews that were recorded for the writing of that book, the husbands actually did nothing wrong. It was the changing feelings and attitudes going on with the women and the husbands were completely unaware, except for understanding that their wives were becoming more and more hateful toward them for no apparent reason.
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 09:01 PM
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Donate your sperm. You could have dozens of kids out there and not have to pay for them! LOL.
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 08:58 PM
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LOL. Yeah, when the data comes in and it shows women in not such a good light, then the data is patriarchal bullshit. Like math!
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 08:55 PM
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I think that those guys are lied to. The woman will make her husband out to be some calloused and uncaring tyrant, or that he just neglects her, blah blah. So the man who he cheats with has this picture of a total monster that is not deserving of his sympathy. I don't really blame the guy. The cheating wife needs to do her husband a favor and get divorced.
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 08:54 PM
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It's funny you mentioned that marriages dissolve after 4 to 5years. Michelle Langley found that women get married, have kids quickly, and feel like they can abandon their husbands after they're back on the job and take the kid with them in about the 4-5 year time frame. She wrote a book about it. A synopsis of the book was done buy a guy named Roger Devlin. Wives realize the shine rubs off on the marriage and start to cheat on their husbands because they're bored and they're husbands aren't maki…
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 08:50 PM
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Say that you fell asleep too. Or that you didn't take any notes and that they didn't go over much in class. Or that you didn't have anything to write with so you just listened.
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 08:42 PM
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Sounds like they should have fired her instead.
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 08:40 PM
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The more partners a woman has, the more she'll need in the future in order for her to achieve the same oxytocin hit that she is seeking for the sake of pleasure. She'll become bored with a stable partner over time and she'll have to search beyond him for the same pleasure. Also, it's been shown,statistically, that the earlier a woman becomes sexually active, the higher the probability that she will cheat. So before you have a conversation about her number, if ever (I wouldn't and don't care), as…
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 08:38 PM
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Being a step-dad is one thing. It's still BP but at least he's going into knowing the child is not his. Being cucked and having this view is fucking weak. Either way, never agree to adopt and/or pay for another man's child. That's his fucking responsibility.
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 05:28 PM
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If they're married then there's still a chance that the poor sap will have to pay for the child.
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 05:25 PM
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Great post. Thanks for sharing. These stories serve as inspiration for all of us.
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 05:23 PM
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Wearing a wedding band? Never thought of that.
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 03:55 PM
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Nice!
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 03:54 PM
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She's not "asexual", she's just asexual with him. But, even if it were true that she is, then why is he sticking around. Dude, move the fuck on!
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 03:53 PM
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"Russia opened its first just weeks out from the World Cup in Moscow, and in Austria, brothel customers already prefer robots over sexual intercourse with a human." Wow! I would never have guessed that sex with dolls would be preferable than with a human being. I get that they're probably safer, sure. Still, that says something for the industry. I understand all of the concerns that these brothel sex workers are bringing up but none of their assertions have actually been proven out. We've heard …
/r/MGTOW20/09/18 10:00 PM
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Great post, and I'm glad to hear that your'e on your way. People treat you they way that you allow them to, so it's good you're no longer letting them walk all over you. Funny thing, if you are direct in your feedback to them about how you expect to be treated, they get put on notice and pretty quickly rise to your level of expectation and are on their best behavior around you. Once they understand that you don't put up with shit, they stop pretty quickly and their respect for you goes up. For o…
/r/MGTOW20/09/18 09:47 PM
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Of course she wouldn't give a fuck, it likely will never impact her. Tell you what though, let her get fired and run out of her industry over an unsubstantiated accusation and see how quickly she changes her tune.
/r/MGTOW20/09/18 09:37 PM
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What I want to know is if the biological father is going to pony up the cash or if the cucked husband is going to agree to stay with her and raise another dude's kid. I just don't fucking get that. Let her go and find someone who is loyal and go be with them.
/r/MGTOW20/09/18 09:35 PM
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I would tell her to never mind, that I'm doing the project on my own. FFS, already.
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 10:18 PM
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I like the analogy.
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 10:10 PM
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Fucking unbelievable.
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 09:56 PM
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I'll say this. Stay with your own goals but if you decide to fuck her just for fun, I don't think anyone would blame you. Then you can friend zone her. Not sure if you're attracted to her still but if she's been a childhood crush then you might as well take advantage. I probably would. I'd still never live with her or marry her, obviously, but your thirties to early forties are the fun times for guys. That's when your value is highest and you can play the field. They had their fun, you can affor…
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 09:55 PM
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I'm in the US, so there are a lot of laws that are detrimental to men. It's quite gynocentric. Especially divorce and family court laws. Also, domestic violence laws, and the federal definition of rape. Also, in how we enforce those laws, which has a lot to do with recommended best practices that get taught to law enforcement, like hauling away the man even if he's the victim. All of the things I alluded to, for instance, were put forth by a VERY small but powerful and financially backed group o…
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 09:44 PM
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Yeah, totally fake. But nice revenge fantasy.
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 09:22 PM
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If you know all then you don't need me to explain anything to you, sounds like you have it covered.
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 09:19 PM
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Yep, agree, there's more than one MGTOW way. Peace.
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 09:17 PM
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Just referring to the current age that a child can stay on your insurance. But yeah, kick them off after 18 if you need to.
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 09:16 PM
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"most women are not responsible" is not BP, it's just a statement of fact. But dude, even if I explained it to you I don't think it would matter. It looks like you need your hate, so keep it and embrace it if that's what you need to do. Let's just agree that we disagree.
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 09:14 PM
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Great post.
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 09:04 PM
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Yeah, no.
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 09:01 PM
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I'm pretty much on board with the actions you're proposing, those are straight up MGTOW. "But men are not allowed to feel hate and red pill rage against such an unjust behavior? Nope sorry. Not gonna play like this. " If you 'feel' hate, that's unfortunate. I'm not suggesting that men should be denied their feelings. I'm saying it's much healthier where you get to a point of not hating anyone based on gender because it's simply not required in order to be MGTOW. To be agnostic or indifferent is …
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 05:05 PM
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Girls rarely get in trouble.
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 04:23 PM
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I would just remove the hate/red pill rage. It doesn't need to be personal or hateful toward a group. It (MGTOW) should just be what every man does because it makes sense. It is a lifestyle that is adopted because it's logical, pragmatic, and based on objective reality in how society treats men. The hate and anger is just wasted energy that can be put toward something more productive, IMO.
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 04:08 PM
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"If tests reveal that the presumed father of the child is not the biological father, most counselors will tell only the mother. But a vocal minority insists that paternity should be known to all. " I would consider myself part of the vocal minority. Also, this seems to be the position of the state, and I mean every state. Nobody wants to talk about biological paternity and why states say that in the interest of the state and the child, we're going to fuck non-biological fathers. If we're going t…
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 04:02 PM
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Dude, you're on the wrong sub.
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 10:37 PM
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LOL. Not a historian but that is fucking awesome.
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 10:32 PM
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I can't believe he haul off and fuck up that White Knight virtue signaling fuck. He had a lot of restraint. I couldn't have done that.
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 09:23 PM
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WTF?
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 09:17 PM
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When it's not even good snark it just comes off as hate. Unless misandry was what she was going for all along.
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 06:07 PM
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What is min is mine but what's yours is mine, unless it's debt. SMH.
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 05:59 PM
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Great post. Thanks for sharing so that others can learn from your experiences. The more everyone understands that these types of experiences are the norm and not the exception, the better off every MGTOW will be able to conduct their own lives and make the best decisions possible.
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 05:49 PM
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How about a tubal ligation? That might help.
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 05:13 PM
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Exactly. Like, WTF? Is it, how to date them so that you can use them and take advantage of them in the future? SMH.
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 05:04 PM
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Slightly disagree. I see where you're coming from and anybody who considers it a 'job' might have an agenda, but might not. On the other hand, I do see it as a responsibility, especially to young men, to let them know of the risks that society poses to them base on their gender alone. This will be their reality and they should be exposed to it and told about it, they have a right to know the unseen forces at work against them in their lives. I would never push MGTOW on someone, it's a personal c…
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 04:59 PM
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It's time to move on. When you leave a company you get better opportunities, more responsibility, and bigger increases in salary. Even if you did get the promotion, they probably would not give you the increase that you could get from leaving. Still interview, but start looking to leave and get out as soon as you can.
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 04:00 PM
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LOL. Good one!
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 03:56 PM
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Damn, she look crazy!
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 03:55 PM
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Can't wait for the dumpster fire to really get going. Let us know!
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 03:53 PM
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Glad you're in a better place mentally and emotionally now. Yeah, when the "we should open up the relationship" talk happens, it's time to bounce. Men are typically the gatekeepers of commitment and women are the gatekeepers of sex. If she feels like she's got your commitment then why not push you to see if she can have your commitment but still have sex with whomever she wants? The only answer to the question of an open relationship is "no." If you're not comfortable with it then it's always "n…
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 03:51 PM
13

No, you're exactly right. Society doesn't care about men or male suffering. Never has. This has been called out by Dr. Farrell 30 years ago in his book, The Myth of Male Power. Nothing has changed. My personal version of MGTOW is to never join the military, not because it's not honorable, it most certainly is, but it's based off of the idea that it doesn't matter if men die. Fuck that shit. So I choose not to play into that societal assumption and would recommend that to other MGTOW, but I under…
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 03:36 PM
1

LOL.
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 03:31 PM
3

Beautiful.
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 03:30 PM
27

Fuck that shit. Get the divorce.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 11:24 PM
5

That's what I've heard from my friends who got divorced and were newly into the dating market. Lot's of single moms who want sex but not relationships. Easy pump and dump action but not much else.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 10:39 PM
4

Cheating. It's been said that women are the gatekeepers of sex and men are the gatekeepers of commitment. Loyalty is a big deal to men because of paternity issues. Historically, women had no fear of not being the biological mother of a child, it's obvious, and they don't really care who the biological father is. Men had to TRUST the woman when she told him that he was the father, so loyalty and fidelity are extremely important to men, it's innate and built in. We want to know that the people tha…
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 09:22 PM
4

Never get married or live with a woman and you should be fine. If you end up with an FWB then make sure to protect yourself in order to prevent pregnancy. Not all men can go monk so figure out how to get what you need without getting married or sharing expenses or a place.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 09:06 PM
0

Didn't see any mention of MGTOW in this.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 09:00 PM
1

The day you go MGTOW is basically your first day of freedom and independence. The world is full of parasites that all have an agenda for you, like your mother and/or any gfs. Once you cleanse yourself of these parasites and start only doing things for yourself both personally and professionally, then you realize how little you need any of them. Focus on your career and any personal passions/hobbies that you have. Submerse yourself into the activities that improve your skills in these areas and w…
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 08:41 PM
3

What a fucking shit show.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 08:29 PM
1

Yeah, you don't get alimony from boyfriends, you idiot.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 08:27 PM
6

The more guys choose to go MGTOW the more you'll see this lament. But seriously, it's what they've been asking for so I'm not feeling sorry.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 08:25 PM
2

Great points.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 08:16 PM
12

Wow. That's awesome.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 05:34 PM
3

It's called a sabbatical and anyone can take one no matter their gender. Just don't expect your employer to pick up the tab.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 05:30 PM
14

Don't do it. Focus on yourself and getting better. They work at a fucking BAR. They're both losers. Focusing on yourself and your own success is the best 'revenge' if that's what you want. Get help for the drinking and ask your therapist for a good mentor that can help you get back on track. Focus on attaining a better version of yourself each and every day. The more you do, they more you'll realize how little they matter and how more and better people will inevitably be part of your life, peopl…
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 05:28 PM
37

Wise words.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 03:51 PM
4

So it took 5k a month to take care of the child but the court awarded 6 times that because, ..........nothing. Yeah, never get married.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 03:46 PM
3

Stop! Don't hang yourself!!! Get help and realize you're in a fucked up game that they're playing. The only way to win is not to play and to focus on yourself and your own betterment. You can never find happiness and self worth through another human being any way. Even if she was a fucking unicorn she would never be able to give you that. You have to find happiness within. Start by getting counseling and by focusing on your passions and dreams. Forget the shitty people in this world and remember…
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 03:31 PM
3

Women have only themselves to blame: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/children-intelligence-iq-mother-inherit-inheritance-genetics-genes-a7345596.html
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 03:24 PM
2

Struggling with this one. In the last year there have been maybe 2 dozen stories. I'm thinking that it was always like this but we never cared and never punished women for these crimes before. I'd say though, that in the last few years, especially with social media and #MeToo, the light is being shined more on these issues.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 03:20 PM
1

This is very true.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 03:18 PM
1

It's something like 'shesahomewrecker.com'
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 03:11 PM
1

Wow, he handled it better than I would have.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 03:03 PM
2

Fucking ridiculous.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 02:58 PM
2

One line that I found VERY interesting and that everyone needs to take into account is on loneliness: "President Obama’s last surgeon general, Vivek Murthy, called loneliness America’s biggest public health hazard: One-third of men between ages 15 and 64 lived alone in 2012, 50 percent higher than in 1970, while the proportion of women living alone has remained fairly stable. This differential is largely caused by the sharp increase in numbers of men not living with minor children. " Got to get …
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 02:49 PM
3

I wish I knew about MGTOW at 23. You're WAY ahead of the game. No reason to beat yourself up over it.
/r/MGTOW14/09/18 05:17 PM
3

Nice!
/r/MGTOW14/09/18 05:10 PM
5

I've seen this before and every time I do I laugh. It never gets old.
/r/MGTOW14/09/18 04:31 PM
5

I thought it was good that she attributed her success to the men in her life and that she called out the issues that we usually see on r/MGTOW that men face. Knowing that there is a woman out there that doesn't hate men and is willing to say it is nice. Feminists will obviously attack her now, so she's putting her rep on the line. I think it's progress. More women are seeing how much men get dumped on by society. It's not a reason to stop being MGTOW, but it's good to see.
/r/MGTOW14/09/18 03:01 PM
1

Reads like a testimonial ad.
/r/MGTOW13/09/18 09:57 PM
44

Do the divorce now and fight for equal custody. You can't live like that. Better now than after another 10 years. Do yourself a favor and get out of that situation. You've already been driven to extreme measures. Kids are resilient, as long as your son knows that you love him and will always take care of him, he'll be ok.
/r/MGTOW13/09/18 09:46 PM
1

Fucking awesome!
/r/MGTOW13/09/18 09:41 PM
6

For me it was the feminist movement. I didn't know what sexism was until a friend's mom, who was a feminist extremist, started spouting anti-male hate whenever I was over. I didn't realize the level of antipathy toward men that some women had, or that largely, society would adopt that attitude toward men in passing outlandish laws and showing extreme bias in the enforcement and sentencing of those laws. Then #MeToo came along and really introduced a whole new level of shitty. MGTOW is clearly th…
/r/MGTOW13/09/18 09:40 PM
14

Not sure why women are threatened by sex dolls. It's mostly still just a masturbation tool, like porn. Not sure why women should care about how men choose to get themselves off. Why wouldn't women be happy about this?
/r/MGTOW13/09/18 05:16 PM
2

Can anyone ban TheBanOut on the basis of free speech? Not sure how, why, these virtue signaling fucktards get to decide for everyone what is ok and what is not.
/r/MGTOW13/09/18 03:21 PM
1

If "Censors" were a protected class you would have been banned, er, censored. :)
/r/MGTOW13/09/18 03:15 PM
22

LOL.
/r/MGTOW13/09/18 03:13 PM
9

I can no longer comment on most subs because my user profile is in MGTOW, and they might get rid of this sub just because someone, somewhere, has a stick up their ass about this community. Yeah, men communicate differently, show their anger, speak in vulgar terms and so forth. It doesn't mean they're wrong in what they're saying. Society has shut off every communication path for men. Quiet stoicism is the expectation and for the most part we all adhere to it. Men showing emotion in the media are…
/r/MGTOW13/09/18 03:10 PM
1

Amen to that.
/r/MGTOW13/09/18 02:58 PM
3

MGTOW is the only logical choice for men in society today.
/r/MGTOW13/09/18 02:55 PM
2

WTF? Someone from Vice should actually read the sub before reporting on it. Low brow journalism.
/r/MGTOW13/09/18 02:54 PM
6

TheDwarvenGuy is in for a rude awakening when his blue pilled ass gets divorced. Just another ignorant simp bloviating a bunch of crap that won't see his life being ruined until it's too late. I hope he comes across his own comments after that eventuality and grudgingly takes his blue colored glasses off so that he can see the reality around him. Not sure why so many men are intent on believing the lies society feeds them. It's their own undoing that they'll have to endure. Good luck to 'em, I g…
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 11:07 PM
13

Nice post.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 11:00 PM
7

If they ban the sub then everyone needs to go to another platform where like minded men can keep the train rolling. We don't disappear because you take away a platform. We keep going, we keep sharing our experiences with each other, one way or another.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 10:59 PM
24

Wait until they ban the sub. Then delete your account. That way they know why everyone left. That's what I'm going to do at least.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 10:10 PM
1

Found the article. You have to process a lot of circular logic in order to get through it. https://thenextweb.com/socialmedia/2018/09/06/facebooks-double-standards-censorship/ The best is at the end: "Statements like “men are trash” or “ugh, white people” are not hate speech, since reverse racism or sexism doesn’t exist. To put it plainly, “men are trash” doesn’t equally match sexist attacks against women because men don’t face the systemic oppression that makes sexist slurs so toxic." I'm on bo…
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 10:07 PM
55

Actually nothing about MGTOW is misogynistic. Some MGTOW men are, surely, but the lifestyle is not based on hate, it's based on how society treats men through its laws. Hateful shit gets said on this sub, that's mostly red pill rage, and guys who've been fucked by the system have a right to those feelings, but that's not what MGTOW is about. Damning everyone in this sub by calling the lot of us misogynistic shows a colossal level of ignorance. I hope they don't get rid of this sub and I would qu…
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 09:35 PM
3

So if TRP or MGTOW subs get banned then victim politics will have won. If you ban a whole sub because some member says something that SJWs don't like then you're stoking the fire even more. We don't disappear, we just go to another platform and reddit becomes known as the site for banned speech, thought policing, censorship, etc... How long before that business model fails and everyone ends up on a new platform? It's too bad because I like reddit very much. It just seems like it's bowing to pres…
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 09:25 PM
4

That's not a joke. Nobody would joke at being that stupid. She's just a dumb ass.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 07:01 PM
20

Life is all politics and a fucking game that is being played at multiple levels at the same time. We all need to be looking at our own situations so as to figure out a way to rise above. MGTOW is the first step at playing a bigger, more important 'game', if you will. You leave colleagues squabbling over the only woman in the office while you're studying and making a better version of yourself every day, until you're running the place or have moved on to something better and you leave them in the…
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 06:56 PM
16

Thank you for sharing your story. It's stories like these that other men need to see and hear in order to make up their own mind about what really has value in their lives. Toxic relationships can kill. They're that bad for whomever is at the shitty end, man or woman. You escaped! Thank goodness for that. All the best to you in your future and again, thanks for sharing your story for the rest of us to learn from.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 06:41 PM
6

Yeah, I can read the comments but can't reply to anything. I was never in that sub anyway but it's nice to know I've been identified as having dangerous ideas. Can't believe people are afraid to hear alternative views. Wait until somebody proves that they need to be banned rather than assume a whole cohort of people is bad based on group identity. Shameful what the mods of certain subs are doing. Reddit really shouldn't allow it. Sorry but Reddit is becoming a joke.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 06:30 PM
1

:)
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 06:22 PM
3

Agreed. Comes back rich too!
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 06:22 PM
2

"They just feel that it exists and must be taken on faith." Feminism is a religion that requires indoctrination. Once done, there's no coming back from it.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 05:53 PM
2

Would the boyfriend be the cuck? Sorry, I'm not on board with you on this.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 05:28 PM
1

Yeah, I'm not up on all that shit.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 05:10 PM
11

Why is thought policing even allowed? Who are these righteous people who are able to determine what thoughts are appropriate and what thoughts aren't? This is so Orwellian. Fucking shameful, disgraceful.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 04:33 PM
1

Hee hee, LOL.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 04:26 PM
2

"Just a flesh wound!"
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 04:00 PM
3

TheBanOut18 only has 480 readers. Why the fuck are they the arbiters of what is ok and what is not? Thought policing is such a fucking HUGE recipe for disaster.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 03:59 PM
1

What is this "won't let me" shit? Do what you fucking want to do.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 03:53 PM
16

I can't. No proof either, and 50 fucking years. I think that if I ever got out I would hunt down those responsible for taking away my life.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 03:40 PM
2

Why the fuck does that sub get to decide who's ok and who's not?
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 03:37 PM
28

It's been a steady climb. Hope it continues.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 03:35 PM
2

Amen. I once saw an article about a minimalist that made less than average salary for his city. When he past away he left 1.5 million to a charity. Nobody new he was a millionaire. He saved his money, invested, and bought only what he needed.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 03:34 PM
18

What a good dog. If I'm him, I keep that dog and feed her whatever she wants for the rest of her life.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 03:32 PM
3

I hope they prosecute for murder, not manslaughter, and give her the maximum. This is complete bullshit.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 03:29 PM
1

LOL.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 03:28 PM
1

Is there an alternative site like this that doesn't censor?
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 03:27 PM
1

Wrong. Those are MRAs. MGTOW has no organizational structure, no conferences, no marches in the streets with placards demanding rights for men, No hierarchical structure, no funding, etc...
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 03:23 PM
2

Good post.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 03:19 PM
2

LOL. Totally agree.
/r/MGTOW12/09/18 03:19 PM
1

So it sounds like the guy was terrible but I'm really not into one sided stories about how awful someone was to the author, so much so that she had to write a "let me tell you...." article for money. So you had a bad date. Fucking get over it.
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 10:00 PM
22

Happiness has historically never been an expectation for men. Just duty. It's nice to see that men have a choice to have happiness these days. Everyone should have that choice, it seems like people don't like men choosing happiness for themselves. Why is that? (Rhetorical question)
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 09:28 PM
1

An argument over semantics? Who cares? First and foremost MGTOW is a way of life adopted by like minded men. It's not an ism, like feminism, where it has recognized leaders of the movement that speak for everyone, virtue signal, and decide who's not feminist enough, etc... and that has an organizational structure with chapters throughout the US and globally, that collect money and advocate governments for change. People with YouTube channels are not necessarily a movement's recognized leader, le…
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 09:11 PM
11

Depends on what you want. College is a complete shakedown and everything you said about SJWs ruling campuses is also true, but if your true passion requires a college degree then don't let the bastards win. Go to night school or take online courses. Find a way to get what you need at minimal possible risk. Also, if you choose not to go to college then get into a high paying vocation. Vocational schools don't bother with SJW bullshit, they just teach you how to get shit done. HVAC, Electrical, pl…
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 08:57 PM
3

Sobering when thinking of it that way.
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 08:47 PM
1

Holy crap, you should be a chef at least part time. Looks great. Best wishes for you and hope for your many future successes.
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 08:46 PM
3

All true. Feminists don't acknowledge these facts though, because they understand that if they do, then we'd have to fund programs addressing issues that men face, and that's money that is better spent on women. So they look the other way, as does society, which is why male suffering is acceptable even in 1st world societies.
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 08:40 PM
1

Best comment yet! I think that's the best lesson from this whole story!
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 08:33 PM
4

Great points. You don't even need evidence now, to send someone to jail.
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 05:50 PM
3

I thought that was peculiar too.
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 05:49 PM
3

Dude, you're on your way. I like it. Keep writing and composing. All the best to you.
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 02:44 PM
4

Sounds about right.
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 02:40 PM
8

Supposedly she could get 17 years. It will never happen. She's already acting like the brokenhearted victim. She'll cry a few tears and she'll get probation.
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 02:35 PM
1

Wow, that's just mean. WTF? She doesn't even deserve his friendship. I hope he ghosted.
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 02:31 PM
1

At least she was up front about it. That's better than accepting a date and dinner with no intention of reciprocation because you just want to use someone but really don't like them but are totally willing to take advantage of them.
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 02:24 PM
0

Wow, I'm impressed. I'm sure she got hammered from comments, but she's right.
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 01:57 PM
8

Amen to that. Ain't nobody need to know you're MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW11/09/18 01:56 PM
3

"Ms Giles, who is still referred to as Kayla Couttee by some local outlets, has been charged with second-degree murder by the Alexandria Police Department, who set her bail at $500,000 (£385,000). " Pretty sure that was premeditated. Should be first degree murder, 25 years to life, no chance of early release.
/r/MGTOW10/09/18 10:06 PM
23

Lot of people, women in particular, use dating apps to boost their ego. They have no intention of dating, it's just a way for them to get attention. They might let some rando buy them dinner, but they're not really using the app to meet people.
/r/MGTOW10/09/18 08:57 PM
7

Yep, MGTOW wouldn't be necessary if things were fair and the enforcement of so-called equality laws weren't so biased against men. Never gonna happen, so............MGTOW is the only choice for men in society today. I'm actually surprised that MOST men aren't MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW10/09/18 08:55 PM
58

You're so ahead of the game. It's not a game, actually, but you're winning! Here's to your future successes, you're on the right track.
/r/MGTOW10/09/18 06:41 PM
3

LOL. Assuming anyone wants to figure that shit out.
/r/MGTOW10/09/18 06:36 PM
1

Nice.
/r/MGTOW10/09/18 06:32 PM
3

Holy fuck. And only 2 years?
/r/MGTOW10/09/18 06:29 PM
8

I wouldn't recommend marriage to anyone anymore. The nonchalance of the affair without any regard to the spouse is the norm now. There's no question about if she's done anything wrong, she assumes everyone understands that she's justified in the affair and should feel sorry for the loss of her lover. There's no guilt whatsoever. Don't ever get married, this is the prevailing attitude and it will only increase over time.
/r/MGTOW10/09/18 06:22 PM
7

At some point she'll end up acting on it. It's inevitable. Then the shit-show begins.
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 05:56 PM
1

Say that you're in a relationship. That's what women do all of the time in order to get rid of guys.
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 03:47 PM
68

Wait until she says something that feminists don't like, and they turn on her like snakes.
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 03:26 PM
2

Yeah, the spending 75% on her is fucked up and he shouldn't be doing that. It's ok, IMO, to have a gf if you're MGTOW, you just should be in the relationship on MGTOW terms. Otherwise, yeah, you're a fake.
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 03:24 PM
10

And that's why you never get married.
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 03:18 PM
1

Such a line of bull crap. Just tell the guy you're not interested.
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 03:15 PM
3

Agreed. Rights need to be equal. Some people are calling it Legal Paternal Surrender: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRdq2zqGxgY
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 03:12 PM
2

"and chasing after such rare birds is too much work and rejection (especially at my age). " Making my point. That's the assumed dynamic that I'm referring to. The act of paying for sex, that is mostly done by men, also demonstrates that dynamic. That you would pay for it is a grudging acceptance of that point. 200-300 bucks X however many times you use a prostitute vs $0 is a pretty big disparity. It shows that men put more value on sex than women so much so that they're willing to put down hard…
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 02:46 PM
6

And then she regrets the experience, reports it, and legally he's a rapist. Life ruined, etc... So he's either an ass hole for not raping her, or an ass hole criminal for raping her. Nice.
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 05:17 PM
2

This is great.
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 03:25 PM
1

So when do we eat?
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 03:24 PM
1

I thought that we were told that joking about rape is wrong and insensitive to victims. So these must not be jokes, cuz, nobody would do that. :)
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 03:23 PM
10

Sooooooo...........she wanted you to rape her?
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 03:18 PM
1

LOL. So true.
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 03:12 PM
9

All reasons for MGTOW and not trusting anyone in the workplace.
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 03:07 PM
6

"Moreover, rates of PDV victimization over the 10-year period indicated significantly higher rates of PDV victimization among boys compared with girls." Yeah, these facts don't fit into the feminist ideological narrative. If it's male victims, of anything really, nobody cares and we're actually conditioned in this society to not care about male suffering. We're led to believe that it doesn't exist because of privilege.
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 03:05 PM
3

You're out of her league now. LOL.
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 02:56 PM
2

The more she goes on, the more crazy she sounds.
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 02:42 PM
1

hee hee. LOL.
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 02:27 PM
3

Yep, I was astounded at the porn conclusion. Like, WTF? How about this. If most of the male moths are not going to mate anyway, then what harm does it do them to have unrealistic expectations?
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 02:25 PM
2

versus free from almost every available person of the opposite sex? That's quite a disparity, actually. I get your point, don't get me wrong. But it's not about the money, it's about the dynamic that people operate from when the assume they have something that you want, whether you actually do or not.
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 02:23 PM
5

This is great, actually.
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 02:17 PM
2

Just stay true to yourself. The most powerful voice in your life is your own, the ultimate source of your own happiness is you, not other people. Find the things that make you happy and pursue those things relentlessly. Anyone trying to prevent you from going for what you want is just fearful that you might be more successful than them - they're not your friends, even if they're family. Remove them from your life as much as you can until you can move out. The most happy you'll be is when you can…
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 10:00 PM
7

You clearly don't understand MGTOW and haven't been on this sub very long. Good riddance to your ignorant ass, and don't let the door hit it on your way out. SMH.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 09:43 PM
2

Good reminder to refer back to when needed. Seeing your formal self through the words your wrote in the past can be an eye opener.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 09:36 PM
3

That was wrong of them to say. Just tell him that you're not there to chase women but to spend quality time with friends. That's not a never ending resource. If he wants to chase pussy then tell him you'll meet up with him some other time. You had the right priority, hopefully he'll appreciate that at some point. Probably after he's been dumped a few times, who knows?
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 09:02 PM
6

Get a paternity test and don't commit to anything. Stay on your current path. Get a good job and pay the debt down as planned. If the kid is really yours then the best way you can help him is to make bank and be responsible, especially if you do need to fight for custody. MGTOW is about being responsible. Do that but still be true to yourself and your own goals. Having a kid isn't the end of the world, it just means there's other shit you gotta do while you execute you life plan. Don't let this …
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 08:59 PM
1

If you're not hot and not a monk then you've got to do something and understanding female nature is part of it. I get your stance and/or view on the world and don't mind an occasional fuck then knowing how women operate is advantageous. And it's possible without turning into a sociopath.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 08:51 PM
2

Sure, but for billions? She's overvalued herself. LOL. Good luck with that!!
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 08:47 PM
17

Exactly. Great post.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 05:29 PM
16

LOL.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 05:08 PM
17

Sorry to hear that. Things get smaller in the rear view mirror the more time passes. Just need to give it time. Now is a good time to focus on yourself and your own happiness. Nobody else can make you happy anyway, that comes from within. Pursue your goals personally and professionally. The more you succeed in those areas the happier you'll be and the less you'll be thinking about her or anyone. The more you'll see how ridiculous the whole thing was to begin with. Here's to the future you, all t…
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 05:06 PM
8

My thoughts, exactly. More than one, I suspect.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 04:59 PM
43

Or you can get off your ass and make your own money.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 04:57 PM
3

Exactly. MGTOW!
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 04:50 PM
7

"Women need more power in society! I mean, other women... not me. I like making frozen pizzas for toddlers." LOL. Nailed it.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 04:39 PM
6

WTF? I seriously don't understand this world.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 04:38 PM
66

Amen to that. Yeah, sex is cheap for women because they know they can get it anytime. They know it's harder for guys to have sex on demand so guys put more value on it. It's this dynamic that women use to manipulate. The funny thing is, when you just don't give a fuck any more, those tactics stop working on you. You don't care about the sex any more and you just want her gone. Her saying that is a cheap shot and also a test. If you don't give a fuck any more then she understands that the time ha…
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 04:37 PM
2

Well, if you're not a monk then yeah, it kinda does. But I understand where you're coming from.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 04:31 PM
5

That is one shallow bitch. I don't usually call women names and I don't use the c word, I try to keep it professional as possible. But that was a very shallow, narcissistic event. I can't believe that men participated in it. Good for the one guy to speak up. That's fucked up.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 03:50 PM
3

Great post.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 03:45 PM
22

So sick of the mainstream trying to characterize MGTOW as a hate group. That's just fear propaganda.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 03:31 PM
5

This is probably not the sub to be asking this question. MGTOW are not really looking for marriageable women.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 03:28 PM
1

Great comments, especially about not hating. Hate is a strong emotion that wastes too much energy. Let it go and invest in yourself. That's the door to freedom. Good on you! Thanks for sharing your story I'm sure it will inspire many of us.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 03:18 PM
5

"American culture drills the mentality that women should put first their own happiness and satisfaction first at a very young age." Interesting that we never tell young boys that. We've been telling young girls this for 60 years but boys are left to sink or swim with no support or encouragement. If any woman questions MGTOW then they need to question feminism. All MGTOW is telling young men is to put themselves first by striving to be a little bit better than they were yesterday and to reach for…
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 03:12 PM
40

All the husbands there, dad, uncles, cousins, envied you in that moment. And you may have planted the idea for someone else and possible saved their ass in life. Some young nephew, etc.. or some kid that you don't know who hears someone that was there talking about what you did and in a moment of honesty admires you for it. You won't know how you will impact others by speaking up, but the more it gets out the better.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 02:59 PM
2

Holy shit dude. That's TOO nice. Don't be a nice guy. Just saw this yesterday and goes to what you experienced: https://www.dmarge.com/2018/08/nice-guys.html
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 02:53 PM
43

Fucking awesome. I love the "unexpected system errors." I think society is going to have a lot more "unexpected system errors" in the future. All the best, gentlemen MGTOWs.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 02:47 PM
6

Probably a fake but if it's not, that is awesome. I hope he divorced, broke it off, ect.......
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 02:44 PM
1

Yeah, that's not good.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 02:39 PM
8

Your friendship(s) with guys like that may stall out for a while until they get seriously RP'd in their own life and wade the fuck up for themselves. Then the friendship will start to roll again. Don't give up on him, just wait for him to see the light for himself.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 09:51 PM
20

Don't say anything. She asks you to buy her a drink and you say "no." The end. You don't have to have a quick rejoinder if she says anything else because at that point you've exited the conversation. If she keeps talking then say that this is now a non consensual conversation and you consider it harassment. Start recording on your phone.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 09:48 PM
1

Great points. Yes, it's mostly parasites who will strive to be with you once you've made a success of yourself. Being with you raises their own limited status and, of course, if they can marry you, gives them access to your wealth.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 09:36 PM
3

I don't recommend marriage.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 09:01 PM
1

Good point.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 09:01 PM
12

Yeah, you could have told your bf and friends that you cheated and then apologized for your bad behavior. Nah, better to go with the rape lie. WTF? I wouldn't be surprised if that guy hunted her down later in life. Who knows how that experience impacted him.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 03:36 PM
6

Released on bond, no big deal. WTF? It was attempted murder, FFS. SMH.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 03:31 PM
31

Yeah, that's one thing that I disagree with him on. He's still very insightful in other areas and he did recognize that there is logic and reason to being MGTOW. He admitted his mistake in calling out MGTOWs in one of his videos. I'm ok with people I disagree with, especially who apologize when they realize they're wrong, like he did. He's very smart and has a good read on what is going on in society today, and I do believe his book and his advice is helping a lot of young men. Gotta take the ba…
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 03:28 PM
15

What a fucking shit-show.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 03:24 PM
3

Great post. If you become somebody who does everything for a woman because you want to have sex with her, then she'll use you and manipulate you. Even worse, she'll lose respect for you, which, in turn, means that she'll never have sex with you any way. It's lose/lose. The guys that do the best with women are the one's who tell women 'no' (can be a total turn on for women), who call women on their BS,who have self respect, are assertive, and of course, are successful and have their own goals and…
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 03:17 PM
3

We all need to support each other. I noticed that we blew past 68k and it seems to be a steady climb that has not slowed. I think more and more men are catching on and/or hearing about MGTOW and learning about what it actually is versus what they hear.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 03:05 PM
2

Great story. Thanks for sharing. Every guy needs to hear these things and the more guys like you share their experiences the more that dude on this sub will realize that these experiences happen ALL the time and that they're not just one off, "bad luck" incidents, but rather represent the norm. MGTOW is the only rational choice.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 03:01 PM
7

Since women are the gatekeepers of sex they can get it at any time. They also know that men put more value on sex because they can't get it on demand, not even players. So it becomes a tool. Her having sex with another guy becomes a test and a way to make you jealous. The problem is, it can backfire if the guy REALLY doesn't give a fuck any more. She had sex to make him jealous but found out that he didn't put any importance on it - it wasn't enough to get a reaction out of him or a way to manip…
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 02:54 PM
5

I love eating alone. Man, that's a good meal.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 02:47 PM
11

She saw you as a possible monkey-branch from your cousin or was trying to line you up for one of her girlfriends. Either way it doesn't sound like she had the best intentions for you, just for herself or one of her friends. You did the right thing.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 02:45 PM
27

I noticed that nobody commented on the article. It's like, someone points out something that's clearly wrong and people just look around at each other and pretend that they hear anything. WTF? This society doesn't give a fuck about problems that face men, which is why you don't get married, don't get people pregnant, and don't live with women no matter what, especially women with kids. This is how the system will treat you. It's nice that this woman is pointing out the injustice of it all if you…
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 02:39 PM
2

Nice!
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 02:25 PM
2

Well, this is entertaining!
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 10:25 PM
6

Two months! Wow. Must be a record. Can't understand why nobody would "settle down" with her. She clearly knows what it takes to be in an LTR. FFS. SMH.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 10:19 PM
1

Yep, I knew a girl like that.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 10:16 PM
3

You're right on track. That's exactly what most of them are doing. Sure, there may be a unicorn in there but probably not.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 10:15 PM
3

Your time to shine is when you're on your own and making a good living. Put your grades and career first. Women peak in their teens and early twenties. Guys have to wait. You said it yourself, the one girl left you for someone rich. Your time will be 25-40 or so. You don't have to be rich, but you need to be independent and successful in your chosen career. Also, don't do stuff, like travel to see someone before they do anything for you. It sends the signal that you're needy. If you go out with …
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 05:23 PM
2

Pawn of the Matriarchy. Nice. And here's the thing, they bestow the title of "Knight" but ultimately, they're just pawns and they don't even realize it.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 04:37 PM
1

All the best to you, brother.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 04:36 PM
1

Hee hee! Love it.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 04:35 PM
1

Great email. Hope it's true.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 04:35 PM
3

Nice!
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 04:30 PM
1

LOL.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 04:23 PM
1

How about you go fuck whomever you want and just not have a bf? Then you don't mind fuck whoever you're with and you don't have to lie to anyone about what/who your doing?
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 04:22 PM
2

WTF was he thinking? If the state wins the appeal and he has to pay then since the state's argument is that "he's the father, he should pay" then he should ask for custody, or shared custody. That may make the mother reconsider whether she really wants the nominal amount of money coming in and not seeing the child 50% of the time. If I were him I'd make the process as uncomfortable as possible for the mother.
/r/MGTOW24/08/18 03:53 PM
1

Good post. Make a promise to yourself to only do things for you, and not others. Not your dad, a girlfriend, etc... You don't need their approval any more, just your own. Listen to your own voice and leverage the good grades and success you've achieved for yourself. When you reach a certain level of success personally and professionally, you'll realize how indifferent you are to outside influences like parents, siblings, women, etc... The crazy thing is, once you're at that level and not taking …
/r/MGTOW24/08/18 03:45 PM
3

Totally agree.
/r/MGTOW24/08/18 03:39 PM
20

You get married to someone, you get their family in the package. This woman is an idiot.
/r/MGTOW23/08/18 09:45 PM
2

Wow.
/r/MGTOW23/08/18 09:41 PM
4

Seriously, ask you anything? Do you get to fuck her or does she make you watch while she makes babies with someone else?
/r/MGTOW23/08/18 09:39 PM
6

Don't worry about it. Fuck whoever you can when you're horny. Just use protection, don't get married, and don't live with anyone.
/r/MGTOW23/08/18 09:27 PM
1

LOL. Love it.
/r/MGTOW23/08/18 09:21 PM
11

She rolls her eyes? Fuck me. If I'm the judge and I see that, I give her the full 3 years. She clearly doesn't understand the gravity of what she has done.
/r/MGTOW23/08/18 09:00 PM
2

What an idiot. He needs to leave and figure out where his spine is before getting into another relationship.
/r/MGTOW23/08/18 08:54 PM
8

Looks staged, but good to keep in mind.
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 09:02 PM
4

What a terrible role-play. Why the fuck would you have to do that? What was it for?
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 08:58 PM
1

I would say, no. Also, see about immigrating to a country with an open society where you can date women and have sex with them without getting married. Get a work visa for someplace in Europe or North America.
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 08:54 PM
2

Hey, easy access to sex, no strings attached? I say, go for it but do it RP/MGTOW style. No paying for shit, no dinners, favors, whatever. Just enjoy each other and leave it at that. If there are expectations that she's attaching to the sex then bolt. Use protection, always, no exceptions no matter what she says. That's my 2 cents.
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 08:50 PM
4

Amen to that, if it happens.
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 08:46 PM
1

Great response.
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 05:01 PM
5

Pretty concise and accurate answer. I like it.
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 04:59 PM
1

Probably true.
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 04:55 PM
3

You're young and have this information available. It wasn't widely known when your colleague got married. Learn from his experience and others. Totally not worth it. I hope he ends up ok.
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 04:45 PM
1

You got drafted? When was that?
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 04:01 PM
12

I think that she should be trashed in the press. This should also be used to advertise MGTOW. It's this shallow, self centered, narcissistic and morally bankrupt attitude that she has that makes her entitled to treat random guys like trash that needs to be called out. Have guys hurt her? Probably. Doesn't excuse her ridicule of dozens of guys in a public setting who were just looking for a date that never did anything to her. WTF? I'm surprised she wasn't bitch slapped by someone.
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 03:58 PM
4

It's not a secret community but it can be perceived as anti-female, when really it has nothing to do with women and more to do with how society poses risks to men in general. Sandman can come off as anti-female and negative. Most guys will reject MGTOW even if they understand the truth of MGTOW because they are BP and want to fuck women, which is natural. Best advice, talk about the dangers that society poses, like divorce and family court bias, paternity fraud and child support, how domestic vi…
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 03:40 PM
1

Beautiful. I love that area.
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 03:25 PM
72

It's pretty clear that she's a child predator. What isn't clear is if she will lose her show and/or work in the industry. My guess is that nobody will care. Also, it's now a known crime and if it was 2013-15 or so, the statute of limitations may not have run out. Anyone going to prosecute on behalf of the victim? Again, probably not.
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 03:18 PM
9

Agreed. No one message by itself is very damning, but in the aggregate, through print, video, and internet media, the message builds up to where, as a man, you understand that the world hates you for your gender. It becomes a tidal wave, or barrage of messaging from the time you're very small. For some reason there is also a special hate for the middle-aged, white man. That creature is the purest of evil in the man hating narrative. Best response is MGTOW. Once you understand the truth about how…
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 03:12 PM
15

She was famous for making a speech where she told everyone in the industry who were predators: "You know who you are, and WE know who you are too!" Asia, we know who you are too.
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 03:04 PM
2

Pure entertainment! I'm loving this.
/r/MGTOW22/08/18 02:56 PM
2

They were good until the very end when they said "cycles of abuse" suggesting that the reason that she victimized someone is be she herself was victimized by Harvey Weinstein. So there you go, another justification why it's ok when she does it.
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 09:03 PM
3

Wow. I would never have guessed that MGTOW as an acronym was triggering. How hyper-sensitive are these fucks? I hope they got to their safe space in time, you know, before a total breakdown happened.
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 08:41 PM
2

That's all you can do, no sense in arguing.
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 08:32 PM
22

I know, right? WTF? What a morally bankrupt bitch.
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 08:31 PM
5

So, bros before hos then? LOL
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 04:53 PM
8

Yep. There's no way you can keep up 5k a month in payments. WTF? This is 2018, she needs to get off her ass and work.
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 04:39 PM
3

"It seems to me, based on all this, and i can say this honestly, that only gay men seem to genuinely find the male form 'attractive' or desirable." I'm not gay but I'll say this. Yes, from a "desire" standpoint, yeah, maybe the female body gets the looks. That said, when I'm marveling at a prime human physical specimen, it's usually a man's body. Athletically, there's no comparison between male and female Olympians, for instance, in any physical sport, not say, shooting or curling, but running, …
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 04:32 PM
5

Well, she better hope the dude doesn't have any proof that he's been sitting on until she makes her predictable, emphatic denial.
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 04:09 PM
2

Exactly. LOL.
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 04:06 PM
129

Great, blame the dead boyfriend that you were cheating on. LOL.
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 04:05 PM
1

LOL.
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 04:01 PM
5

That's loyalty.
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 03:45 PM
13

Fucking great answer. Never thought of that.
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 02:25 PM
8

Nailed it. She'll make it so that she was the victim all along and make it all about her rather than her victim.
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 02:22 PM
6

It means we need to start focusing on the homeless females because it's tragic that such a situation exists for them. The men? They can die under a bridge.
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 08:23 PM
3

Fucking awesome.
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 08:21 PM
61

Just went over to #MeToo on Twitter, it's a total shit-show today. Pure entertainment.
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 08:19 PM
7

LOL. Hee hee! I hope someone puts this up on #MeToo
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 07:58 PM
5

If he has a good lawyer then he might be able to recoup some his 40K. She's basically guilty of fraud. Even if the court forced her to make nominal payments, just having her have to pay him would be worth it.
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 07:56 PM
14

Yep, just the cost of doing business in this world. It's a lot cheaper to pay your own cab fare than to pay professionally for an accusation.
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 03:23 PM
2

If this is true then I want to see how this gets played out. My guess is that the #MeToo movement will be largely silent or actually come to her aid and try to justify her actions. Something like, well, she was a victim and was acting out against this minor because SHE was traumatized, blah blah.
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 03:21 PM
2

Totally understand. It sounds like you're able to self analyze, which most people can't/won't do. That's the key, being honest with yourself about where you're at.
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 03:13 PM
8

Yep, solves so many issues.
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 07:42 PM
1

A MGTOW can be in a serial monogamous relationship, IMO. As long as you're not living together or married, then there's nothing wrong with the understanding of exclusivity. Poly, to me, is usually a woman that has two cucks that will do anything for her but she wants to still be free to have sex with alphas, or anyone, outside of the relationship. I haven'e read of too many poly relationships where it's one guy and two girls. It's always 1 girl, with two guys who provide emotional and financial …
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 07:40 PM
1

Ugh. Was better off 10 mins ago not knowing.
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 07:31 PM
123

Nothing like a bunch of white-Knight, virtue signaling simps intervening on her behalf and making you look like you're the criminal. I doubt you'd see that kind of terrible behavior from her if she wasn't sure that every guy in the house would come to her rescue.
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 07:28 PM
1

Toastie roasties?
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 07:23 PM
1

Second. I'm thinking it won't matter much. :)
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 05:50 PM
1

Holy crap. I'm actually pretty impressed - and scared. LOL.
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 03:56 PM
5

Not understanding so much focus on women on this sub. MGTOW is not about women, at least at its core. It's wasted energy and takes away from focus in other areas and is basically based on hate/resentment toward them for their nature, which they cannot change. We are better served by focusing on our self, bettering ourselves incrementally every day, and being unemotional and indifferent on the subject of women. MGTOW is about society and its laws relating to men. Yes, that means men have to make …
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 03:54 PM
3

No self respect. Either that or she's damn manipulative and good at gaslighting. SMH
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 03:06 PM
6

Awesome post. Keep going on the MGTOW track. One observation is that you do sound bitter. Gotta lose that. It's drags you down. Hope things work out for you.
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 02:59 PM
8

Sounds like it's a good thing your moving. Best of luck.
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 02:47 PM
2

Wow. That is awesome.
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 02:44 PM
1

Yes, women aren't stupid. I agree that a lot of them are not worth your time and are more interested in their phones and taking selfies, but there are many that have a lot going on that you can learn from. Doesn't change the fact that every guy should still be MGTOW, but yeah, there are lots of intelligent women out there. You're probably not going to find them at the shopping mall though. LOL. I have many women friends that are highly intelligent and insightful.
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 02:42 PM
1

Love that movie.
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 02:38 PM
7

LOL. Sadly, there will be more than one application.
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 02:35 PM
5

Not sure why you think you need to leave or to have a 'backup plan.' You should be doing your martial arts and pursuing any other interests despite a relationship. Do our boys a favor and give them the support they need in school. They are clearly not getting the support that young girls are, that's obvious. Best of luck to you.
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 02:33 PM
1

Lonely? Shit, there's almost what, 8 billion of us. We're never alone. You want company, go out and meet people who have similar interests or that you can learn from. Being alone is by choice.
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 02:28 PM
2

Here's to a new beginning where anything is possible. Best of luck to you and keep us updated!
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 02:25 PM
1

Great comment. Very true.
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 02:22 PM
2

Exactly.
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 02:18 PM
3

Maybe. Worth a shot though. They met in Southern Cal, so if they married here then he could seek a divorce in the US. That's what I'd try to do, at least.
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 05:27 PM
15

Nothing like getting used and thrown away. On the other hand, he should be entitled to whatever endorsement money she's been getting. This may benefit him financially if the laws are truly 'gender blind.' We'll see.
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 05:14 PM
2

I definitely want to know how this goes. :)
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 05:09 PM
3

LOL. :)
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 05:05 PM
2

You can leave. Find some buddies to room with for that price, or people looking for a roommate. Take on more work if you have to. Don't be a helpless victim. Take control of your situation. Once you do, you will feel WAY better about yourself and you'll be removing yourself from a completely toxic situation at the same time. DO NOT stay there for 12 months. You may be 19 but you are an adult now and HAVE to take responsibility for yourself and your own situation and consequences for your choices…
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 05:02 PM
29

Dang, dude. You are SO on the right track. Focus on yourself, you're own happiness and fulfillment. Always having goals like you currently do will put you in a great place. Good on you to have financial goals as well. Read and/or listen to Dave Ramsey on saving and investing. Happiness comes from within and not from someone else. You're on the right path. Best of luck and keep us updated.
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 04:58 PM
2

Sucks. Good for him for taking responsibility for his kids but that situation if FUBAR. I can't believe the judge didn't give him shared custody. This is why men are opting out. There is so much bias against them in the so-called 'justice' system that it forces men to just opt out altogether. Shaming them and telling them to 'man up and get married' is basically telling them to do something completely against their own interests. Fuck that.
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 04:43 PM
2

Another BIG reason not to get married. You don't want to be responsible for your spouse's debt. And there have been cases where there was not full financial disclosure before the marriage and guys find out after the nuptials that their new wife is up to her nose in student loan debt. No thank you.
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 04:37 PM
9

Whatever. That's just being manipulative. Good for him for calling her out and being straight about what REALLY happened.
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 04:32 PM
1

Not sure what I think about this.
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 03:56 PM
1

You're not trapped. Leases can be broken when life events overtake you. Just leave. Even if there is a fee to break the lease it's better than staying there 12 months. Usually if the owner can get another tenant within a reasonable amount of time then the fee is nominal.
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 03:50 PM
26

People need someone to hate and blame for their own problems. It's easier to blame others than to do the hard work of looking at yourself and trying to improve your own situation and to better yourself.
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 03:46 PM
2

Definite entitlement complex of some sort there. Not sure where this 'Patriarchy' is that is making all these women feel oppressed all the time. All I see is entitlement.
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 02:43 PM
5

Yeah, dudes get rejected and crash and burn so often that they can't remember any one particular time. Then they wake the fuck up.
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 02:35 PM
1

Hee hee, LOL!
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 02:32 PM
2

LOL. Thanks!
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 02:20 PM
13

It's ok to have friends if you're MGTOW, even women friends, as long as its on your own terms. If you want sex from her and you're not getting it, then yeah, walk away. If you're not attracted to her sexually but she's a good friend, then keep the friendship. Just depends on what your expectation is for the friendship.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 08:57 PM
12

Imagine putting your life's effort and energy into yourself and your own fulfillment rather than using it to maintain a relationship with someone who can walk away at any time and take away most of your work with them. No thanks. Invest in yourself and let people be part of your life because they want to be, not because they're trying to get something from you like a fucking parasite.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 08:52 PM
2

Don't deny yourself sex. It doesn't have to be pump and dump but there are FWB options and being in relationships. We're all human. Being MGTOW doesn't mean denying your own humanity, it just means not getting yourself into legally disadvantageous situations that strip you of your rights, finances, property, and potentially your kids. Fuck that shit. But absolutely fuck women as much as you need to. The more you do, the more you'll realize that sex is WAY overvalued and you'll be able to keep at…
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 08:45 PM
5

Love dining out. It's part of enjoying life to the fullest. I've been doing it for years. I have no problem at all doing this. It doesn't faze me in the least. BTW, that looks like some tasty grub.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 08:40 PM
29

So if there are too many MGTOW then this will happen in the US and Canada as well. LOL. I'm wondering what the threshold is. 10% of eligible men being MGTOW? 20% 30%. Let's find out! :)
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 08:35 PM
3

So the most useless studies that benefit society the least get paid the most? What a racquet. Create a bullshit program to extract money from unsuspecting students and their families. Great. No wonder people think college isn't worth it.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 08:26 PM
6

Yup.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 04:25 PM
18

Fucking hypocrites.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 03:58 PM
6

If you do become successful in your thirties then the women will be attracted to you like you've never seen. That's your time to shine. If you like having sex with different women and not having to commit to any of them, some significantly younger than you, that's the time. Might as well leverage your success while you can, that's what women do when they leverage their looks while they're young. Fair is fair.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 03:50 PM
2

It's one thing to break up with someone while they're still deployed but to do it in such a hateful and sadistic way is just horrible. He's better off without such a hard core sociopath. She better hope she never sees him stateside, it could get ugly. That's the kind of thing that puts people over the edge.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 03:45 PM
22

Woohooo! Take time to celebrate your achievement before getting back to it. You deserve it!
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 03:41 PM
3

As you wish.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 03:39 PM
3

Move out with him and tell your sister to move out with both of you. Your mom wants out of the family, then let her know that the rest of you stand united as a family without her. Then help your dad however he needs it. The solidarity you show him will be worth more than if you gave him stacks of gold, but if you can help financially here and there, of course, contribute however you can.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 03:36 PM
1

Better to keep work relations to a minimum anyway. You never know what misunderstanding gets you in hot water with some woman and HR. Use the job for what you need and move on.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 03:24 PM
2

I would say that having sex is awesome and definitely an experience that you should consider incorporating into your life - unless you truly want to go Monk. Just protect yourself, always depend only on yourself and not anyone else for that. Don't live together, don't get married. That way you're still happy, you're having fun while your young. And the more sex you have the less women can use it against you because it really becomes no big deal. If one woman is trying to manipulate you through s…
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 03:20 PM
23

Parasites sucking you dry.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 03:14 PM
2

LOL. Yeah, not just military relationships!
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 02:49 PM
3

Proof of gender bias against men on college campuses. As if we didn't know this already. MGTOW rule, never date or have relations with any woman at your University. If you have to have sex, have it with women that don't go to your college or who are not in college. College tribunals under Title IX are anti-male, for the most part.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 02:46 PM
2

Or maybe you could 'show' people your personality. LOL
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 02:43 PM
1

What's in it for you? Otherwise she should just go fuck herself.
/r/MGTOW13/08/18 10:08 PM
1

Looks like it's fake or that she took it down. It's not on her twitter feed any more.
/r/MGTOW13/08/18 09:57 PM
1

Good video. Seems like he would have filmed himself though, since he made such a point about it.
/r/MGTOW13/08/18 09:51 PM
2

Fucking genius. RIP.
/r/MGTOW13/08/18 02:13 PM
12

Congratulations on demonstrating your complete ignorance of MGTOW and this sub.
/r/MGTOW10/08/18 05:40 PM
17

I would actually love to see that. If men don't get married, society gets kicked in the nuts. I'll be popping some corn and watching the show!
/r/MGTOW10/08/18 05:38 PM
11

That's called progress.
/r/MGTOW10/08/18 04:48 PM
2

This sub just crossed 66k and it seems to be on a non-stop and steady climb. I think the reasons are varied but some of what you mentioned are certainly contributors. Social media during the information age is a huge factor. None of that matters though, if the message is not clear and compelling. MGTOW is about the reality of the times for men and it's easy for men to see and react to. All the messaging through social media and the internet wouldn't matter if the the message was bad. MGTOW will …
/r/MGTOW10/08/18 03:35 PM
23

Dogs understand what loyalty is. Gotta love dogs. Good on you, you sound like you're on the right track and are doing well.
/r/MGTOW10/08/18 03:12 PM
2

I would not have called India as #2.
/r/MGTOW10/08/18 03:08 PM
2

Hee hee!
/r/MGTOW10/08/18 03:06 PM
1

This can't be real, it's to fucking unbelievable.
/r/MGTOW10/08/18 03:04 PM
1

So much wrong with that. If you want to pass, you have to select "T", but if you do, you're contributing to the indoctrination of young people. Welcome to the world of Orwell.
/r/MGTOW10/08/18 03:02 PM
0

Yep.
/r/MGTOW10/08/18 03:00 PM
5

LOL. Maybe so, still good, IMO.
/r/MGTOW09/08/18 10:22 PM
5

Great idea. Nothing like having evidence, especially in domestic breakup situations.
/r/MGTOW09/08/18 10:22 PM
1

Yep, which was a tough choice for her because she wanted to fuck men up more than she wanted to protect lesbian women. As it stands, the rate of domestic violence among lesbians is higher than it is between men and women or two gay men, and that includes sexual assault which would include rape. Due to the penetration requirement of rape, a female rape victim who's perpetrator is also female has no recourse under rape laws. That's the concession that feminists were willing to make in order to mak…
/r/MGTOW09/08/18 10:03 PM
1

Basically, yes. That is a great description and I think if that is an accurate definition of Omega then I'd say that most MGTOW are Omega, or at least part Omega with a little alpha/beta traits mixed in.
/r/MGTOW09/08/18 09:15 PM
3

Doesn't matter what men do, they'll be criticized and ridiculed no matter what their personal choices are. Fuck society. Do what you want and if people don't like it, fuck them too!
/r/MGTOW09/08/18 09:11 PM
9

Key line: "I'm 29 now and what is important to me has changed. And who he is, is a lot more of what I am looking for now..." uh huh. Man, it's the exact age that Rollo and other red pilled pundits are talking about. Suddenly, the secure and safe dude looks like a good catch. It's a bullshit though, and really, it doesn't matter, guys her age that are single and mature can date 20 year olds, like SHE did when she was 20! How could she not see this coming? She participated in perpetuating the norm…
/r/MGTOW09/08/18 08:58 PM
12

Awesome. Very happy for you. I love seeing the excitement in your story and others like yours where guys can't wait to move the fuck on with their new life and get going on things that they've put on hold due to putting another person's priorities ahead of their own. Wishing you all the best and keep us updated. I'd love to hear about the reaction she has once reality sets in for her.
/r/MGTOW09/08/18 08:52 PM
1

WTF? The tax needs to apply to both genders if that's what the country wants. Why is it assumed to be a problem with men? Maybe, if men aren't marrying then you ask yourself why instead of just taxing them for their decision. Tax everyone or no one. Edit: and since historically we know that women are the gatekeepers of sex and only 40% of males throughout history have been able to procreate, then you're setting up 60% of males that are unwanted to have to pay more taxes on the simple fact that t…
/r/MGTOW09/08/18 08:36 PM
6

"The implication of the surveys is that men are afraid of being falsely accused. But false accusations of sexual impropriety are actually very rare." Unless you're the one that gets accused. Then it's no longer about the probability, now it's all about how your life and career are ruined. If her husband had been falsely accused just one time, then his answer would be completely different because of the hell he would have had to go through in order to try to clear his name, which would have been …
/r/MGTOW09/08/18 08:31 PM
2

I've yet to see a woman in this situation be convicted of 'rape.' It's always something else that carries a much smaller sentence. Current laws in every state, apparently, make it so that rape is only a crime that men commit.
/r/MGTOW09/08/18 06:51 PM
3

So true. And yet all we hear is about how men and boys are toxic. I'm so fucking tired of the gynocentric, feminist, narrative in our society that I just don't care any more. That's why MGTOW makes so much sense. You just tune it out and GYOW and let pop culture and the news bitch and moan about everything while you're out getting something done. Haters gonna hate, fuck them.
/r/MGTOW08/08/18 04:44 PM
5

Great plan. There's nothing wrong with having sex once in a while but those other activities that you're planning always take priority. Sounds like you're on the right track.
/r/MGTOW08/08/18 04:35 PM
5

Do him a favor and don't ask him to marry you, and if he proposes, say no.
/r/MGTOW08/08/18 04:30 PM
4

Women are the ones raising boys.
/r/MGTOW08/08/18 04:27 PM
1

Oh, you'll want your cuck boy, no doubt, especially post wall and with kids. You may WANT a 'real man' when you're older, but you'll settle for a cuck who pays your bills.
/r/MGTOW08/08/18 04:26 PM
3

Think of her having period shit. That should cure you. LOL
/r/MGTOW08/08/18 04:21 PM
1

Nature always wins, but it's good to know what's going on.
/r/MGTOW08/08/18 03:57 PM
4

Understood. The question was more rhetorical. I think if you're over 40 then yeah, you probably grew up in a time where MGTOW really wasn't put forward as a way of life and probably got married and had a family and are dealing with whatever that entails, etc... But I think for anyone who has not married yet, it seems like a VERY logical choice to be MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW07/08/18 09:05 PM
2

True. The answers are that simple. And BTW, it doesn't mean you don't have people that love you, being MGTOW doesn't mean that you're excluded from normal human emotions and relations to others. People seem to want to make it out to be something that it's not. It's whatever each individual MGTOW decides it's gonna be for himself.
/r/MGTOW07/08/18 08:30 PM
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Great description. That is really what it all boils down to, which begs the question, why isn't every man MGTOW? Our society has been feeding girls and young women a version of the same message since the 60's. You're powerful, independent, you can do anything and should take care of yourself, etc... Schools and society have not given the same message to boys, in fact, they've mostly told boys and young men that they are the problem. Why has it fallen to MGTOWs to deliver this message? Why hasn't…
/r/MGTOW07/08/18 06:59 PM
2

It always happened but you're right, it happens more today. What's funny is that people are finding out 30 years later that their mother cheated on their dad due to Geneology.com and other DNA testing services. People are finding out that their dad is not really their dad. It's happening so much that now those sites are posting disclaimers saying that you need to be prepared for possible unexpected surprises about your heritage before sending in your sample. LOL. Fun times to live in.
/r/MGTOW07/08/18 02:46 PM
1

Yep. And it's just females acting out that nature whether they have kids or not. So if they're in a steady relationship with Mr. Nice dude who is stable and beta, if she's going to cheat on him, it will most likely be during that hormone change. Then she'll go back to him for the more stable relationship.
/r/MGTOW07/08/18 02:42 PM
1

Thanks for your post. I'd say that things are raw right now for you but the more you put them in the rear view mirror and the quicker you focus on your own mental and physical well being, the more you'll realize that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Great to hear of some of the decisions that you're making. And BTW, crying is normal and ok. Real men cry. It's feminists and society that think men are such monsters that we don't have feelings and can't be hurt. Cry when you feel like it, …
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 10:47 PM
1

TF? What a monster she is, that's not fucking normal. Personally I don't see a way we should outlaw abortions so they're necessary for society, but to do it on purpose? Fucking sociopath.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 10:39 PM
1

Hee hee ha! :)
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 10:24 PM
12

Why the fuck does he have to pay her alimony? I don't believe they ever had kids, I thought I read somewhere that she never wanted any. She makes as much or more than he does, why would he have to still pay? Un-fucking-believable.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 10:24 PM
6

Great post.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 10:10 PM
23

Agreed. However, it doesn't hurt to know how people operate even if you're not in a relationship with them. Knowledge is power.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 10:08 PM
1

I think monks are a minority of MGTOW, but it would be good to do an informal survey to see what the makeup is. Sex is great and most guys love it, obviously. It just has to be on acceptable terms and no MGTOW should compromise on his terms. And stay protected.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 05:59 PM
6

That is an Impossible Mission, should any guy choose to accept it. LOL
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 05:56 PM
2

Go for the job, worry about the rest once you're in the door.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 05:53 PM
74

Rollo Tomassi talks about this in his 21 convention speech (on Otube). The idea is around female nature being an imperative to mate with dominant, good looking, alpha males during a certain state of estrous but then looking for more stable and financially secure males for the purpose of taking care of the offspring. During this phase she will agree to have "tansanctional sex" with someone in order to extract his resources for her and the alpha's kids. (Always remember that you will always come a…
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 05:45 PM
5

I do it all the time. I'm usually reading up on something, studying, etc... while I do it. It's totally natural to me. I love it, actually.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 03:50 PM
3

When those two data points cross, and MGTOW goes above feminism, there should be some kind of celebration! LOL.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 03:40 PM
1

Sweet. That looks like a fun day.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 03:31 PM
2

Thanks for sharing your story and I'd like to think that I speak on behalf of everyone in wishing you success early and often in your future. You're on the right path to becoming the best version of yourself that you can possibly be. Keep us updated and all the best to you in your personal journey.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 03:29 PM
1

If that is true then things are changing for the better.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 02:58 PM
3

Welcome home, brother.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 02:56 PM
1

That's gold right there.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 02:54 PM
2

To be fair, it happened to him too.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 02:53 PM
2

She's acting as if a hand is a bad choice. LOL.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 02:52 PM
7

WTF? She said that and didn't get fired? This #MeToo world is fucking ridiculous. Total hypocrisy.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 02:51 PM
14

This is hilarious. A requirement for 'funny' is that there has to be a grain of truth that everybody understands already in order to have a laugh. Everybody knows this truth which is why it's so good. Anyone who's offended is also aware of the truth but just doesn't like it being pointed out.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 02:48 PM
1

I like that!
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 02:44 PM
2

Nice!
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 02:42 PM
1

Great line. What movie was this?
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 06:03 PM
33

Yeah, I'm more and more comfortable with the idea of total annihilation these days. I'm ok with women having their due, but they just transparently force-feeding this shit to us now.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 06:03 PM
10

Tell him he dodged a bullet. I hope that he calls off the relationship and starts focusing on himself - you know that's what she's doing.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 05:54 PM
3

Great advice.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 05:52 PM
8

The part about paying for the child even if it's not yours is the real fucked up thing in this country. That reason alone should be enough to be MGTOW. So fucked up. Society and these kinds of laws need a major overhaul if it expects men to voluntarily participate. Why the fuck should we? Makes no sense.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 05:50 PM
1

Great song and the sentiment is absolutely MGTOW even before MGTOW was really a thing.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 05:46 PM
2

Or you could ride the pussy carousel in your late 20's early 30's. That's when the balance of power in relationships starts to switch over and you are more in the driver's seat. Just have fun, use protection, and don't let anyone live with your or get married, obviously. That's your time to shine. Don't feel bad about being emotionally unavailable to them, that's how they are in their 20's when they're playing the field. They were leveraging their looks when they were young, you can leverage you…
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 05:28 PM
3

Here's a decent article explaining why Jeong is wrong. She maintains that she can't be a racist but it's clear that she's a hater and a bigot and uses language that is provocative and designed to divide us all. https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/sarah-jeong-twitter-controversy-anti-white-racism-exists/
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 05:19 PM
1

Do you have to ship out soon? If so, should make sure she's out beforehand. Thanks for sharing. I love this story.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 05:08 PM
2

Sweet. I like the large cab. Where are you taking it first?
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 05:01 PM
1

hee hee
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 04:58 PM
7

I think that our country is very capricious about sending our troops into harms way. At least if women were part of a draft then if there ever were one again, which admittedly is very improbable, then knowing that women have to participate will make the government think twice about what they're getting us into. The US values women and devalues men. Nobody cares if dead male bodies pile up, but if it's women, people get upset and demand more from the government. Go figure.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 04:58 PM
6

The more the better. I would love to see how society reacts to most guys denying commitment.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 04:54 PM
1

WTF? That's not sustainable. If I were him I'd sue for custody or at least 50/50 custody. You can get a nanny for a third of that. That is bullshit.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 04:53 PM
2

Great way to generate the results you want. SMH.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 04:47 PM
1

Gotta get down there someday.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 04:45 PM
2

Amen to that. All the best of luck to you and let us know of your progress and successes along the way.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 04:42 PM
2

Great post. Concentrate on yourself and your own self improvement. It's the only path to true happiness in your life. Celebrate your own life your own way and without someone that is constantly questioning your decisions.
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 10:47 PM
4

Very cautious. The workplace is an intensely oppressive environment that doesn't even need evidence in order to ruin you. Be professional and then get out.
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 10:43 PM
1

Great post. Totally agree.
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 09:36 PM
9

This is the result of boys and young men being shamed into thinking that they have original sin against women and therefore have original guilt. So they have to virtue signal and debase themselves for female approval. The sick joke is that females will only resent them more for doing it. It's lose/lose. Don't ever be ashamed of who you are and don't let society turn you into a beta-bitch like this guy. Nothing good in your life will come from it.
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 07:55 PM
2

Beautiful. Enjoy!
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 07:52 PM
3

You gotta hold firm, like you did. Otherwise they'll get away with it. Great job.
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 07:50 PM
2

LOL. I wasn't prepared for that. My laugh for the day - thanks!
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 07:45 PM
2

Sending your ex a video of yourself having sex with someone else to make them feel jealous? That is such a terrible thing to do to someone, petty, shallow, and downright mean. You don't want to be with him, then leave. I don't think she should have paid with her life (if this is a true story) but I actually cannot blame him either. How did she think he would react? It surely never crossed her mind that he'd send it to the world. Darwinism at work, maybe?
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 07:43 PM
1

Yeah, this article is really a case for being a monk MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 06:55 PM
2

Great post.
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 06:55 PM
1

Yeah, not the part that I was referring to.
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 06:53 PM
7

Yeah, we're not all monks, but I feel ya.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 04:34 PM
8

Nailed it. It's all about society and how society treats men in particular. Most Vanguard market funds have low fees and beat managed funds, so you're doing the right thing there too. Maybe diversify with some real estate if you don't have your own home yet, but you're absolutely killing it. Good job. Thanks for sharing your story and here's to wishing you uber-success in your life. I hope to see more stories like this from other dudes on this sub. Keep us updated.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 03:02 PM
2

You're probably ok but absolutely get legal advice.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 02:48 PM
7

Interesting how there seem to be many paths to becoming a MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 02:37 PM
3

Awesome story. Thanks for sharing. It's possible that you got off cheap. You're so young that you probably didn't have much time to amass a huge fortune that could be raided. I'm sure you're paying her something but I hope it's not permanent. Once that is over, I agree, never put yourself at risk with marriage again. Just not worth it.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 02:35 PM
2

Welcome.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 02:30 PM
9

Well, here's to hoping she just created another MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 02:27 PM
1

That makes her look worse.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 02:24 PM
2

Hey, troll! I debated responding to you because it will do no good, but your conclusions require making MAJOR assumptions about things you can't possibly know. So there's that. Also, you liken MGTOW to having irrational fear. Completely wrong. MGTOW is the most logical and pragmatic lifestyle for how a man should live today. It is actually uber-rational. Lastly, you assume that the focus is on women. Wrong. The focus is understanding how society views and treats men and systemically puts men at …
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 09:34 PM
8

Women are delaying marriage, so we're looking at age 27-33 or so as the average age range? With that long before marriage you're looking at the 6-9 partners or 10+ categories for number of partners for most women. Not all, of course, but the promiscuous ones are not going to let on how many partners they've had, let alone hookups. So, yeah, don't ever fucking get married. It's a raw deal, it will only strip you of everything. Completely not worth it.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 09:08 PM
24

I think that the less this sub talks about women and the more we talk about the pragmatic/logical ways that men should live their lives, the more men will join the MGTOW sub. It just makes so much sense. There is some room for anger/resentment, but it should not be the overall focus of the sub. We do that, then it's possible the flood gates open and more men not only join the sub, but start to live the MGTOW lifestyle. If enough do, it would be interesting to watch the massive cultural shift in …
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 08:51 PM
1

Great post.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 08:46 PM
5

Hmm, how about we wait until there are actual women doing the job, then change the sign? LOL.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 08:42 PM
8

I could barely watch the first 5 seconds.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 08:41 PM
8

So what does he get out of it. Is there a version for "What every man should get?"
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 07:53 PM
5

This should be on a permanent board.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 07:44 PM
55

It's not cheating when women do it. They have reasons.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 05:02 PM
12

Not sure why it's not called "rape" when women do it. That's what men get charged with, and they do hard time. Women are just guilty of "sexual activity" with 13 y/o boys. WTF? Society just doesn't want to admit that women can be predators.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 04:58 PM
4

Men see this and then are told that it's a joke and that if you take it personally then it's YOU that has the problem and that because of it you're probably a misogynist. Yeah, or it's not a joke at all but a provocation and just another lever to shame and ridicule men. When it comes to feminists you should never assume that they're joking, they're not. It's straight up hate parading as humor.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 04:53 PM
4

No fucking shit. As Bruce Willis would say, "Welcome to the party, pal!" Here's the thing, everyone knows this, they just know that they can't talk about it.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 02:23 PM
1

Primary tactic for women is manipulation. It starts early with young girls who at first target other young girls for social status. Then they target boys/men, like this. Stay MGTOW. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/parenting/wp/2018/07/26/little-mean-girls-helping-your-daughter-swim-in-those-choppy-social-waters/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.511fa0dbbf9d
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 02:18 PM
1

And that's MGTOW in a nutshell. Don't do it, gents.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 02:11 PM
9

So fucked up. All the more reason to stay MGTOW. One thing it should show is a smile on his face before she showed up and how it disappears when she's there. How many men are miserable when they have to change so much and give up what they love just to be with someone. Fuck that.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 02:06 PM
2

Effective for him not having to pay high alimony. It seems to be working if she's living with her parents.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 02:01 PM
5

Yeah, that headline is accurate. LOL
/r/MGTOW30/07/18 10:02 PM
4

Testing at birth has got to be the law. It's only going to be more of a problem going forward with how cheap and easy DNA testing is already. Might as well get the truth out there right away, cuz it's going to come out no matter what.
/r/MGTOW30/07/18 10:00 PM
4

He did the right thing by quitting his job first. That way, there is no expectation of living lifestyle that was afforded to her when he was a lawyer. It's all based off of the new business. Good for him.
/r/MGTOW30/07/18 09:37 PM
2

Holy shit, she doesn't even look like the same person. Not once did she mention finding her own work, just wants him to keep paying her. Wow.
/r/MGTOW30/07/18 09:36 PM
2

Sweet.
/r/MGTOW30/07/18 09:25 PM
1

Yeah, it's weird but I've seen too many comments from women about using men for nice dinners and then ghosting. Best not to fall for that trap any more. Netflix & Chill or move on.
/r/MGTOW30/07/18 09:22 PM
28

Wouldn't surprise me if she tries to get back with the husband too.
/r/MGTOW30/07/18 09:20 PM
1

Necessity is the mother of invention.
/r/MGTOW30/07/18 09:17 PM
9

Well, I can see why he was into porn.
/r/MGTOW30/07/18 09:16 PM
1

So she demands that she not be "held sacred" but then lists out her demands which result in her enjoying what she demands that she doesn't want? WTF?
/r/MGTOW30/07/18 09:10 PM
1

Love it.
/r/MGTOW27/07/18 06:28 PM
5

That is so annoying. You're doing the right thing though. Just use the college with the understanding that they're using you. Once you're gone, then you can say whatever you want about it without penalty.
/r/MGTOW27/07/18 06:27 PM
192

Good analogy. And pretty sobering.
/r/MGTOW27/07/18 06:25 PM
3

Right, strip him from his money but put the blame on him for the divorce even though she was never in love with him in the first place. WTF, just don't fucking marry the guy - at least do him the courtesy of that. Instead, the whole marriage is a charade and the only person who doesn't know is him. Fucking unbelievable.
/r/MGTOW27/07/18 06:18 PM
2

And our gynocentric society made it that way.
/r/MGTOW27/07/18 06:11 PM
7

Fucking great post.
/r/MGTOW27/07/18 06:10 PM
2

Yeah, leave and never look back. She doesn't deserve your time and attention and is definitely telling you things with the intent to tear down who you are as a person. That is WAY not ok. If you're going to be with someone then you deserve to be treated right and you will treat them right. She's not giving you that. In fact, and I've seen other girls do this, she sounds like she's saying shit so that you'll break up with her so that she won't have to break up with you. Don't give her the satisfa…
/r/MGTOW26/07/18 09:30 PM
-1

Not sure I believe. Sucks if it's true though and I would have done the same thing.
/r/MGTOW26/07/18 04:44 PM
1

Good advice.
/r/MGTOW25/07/18 02:17 PM
2

Paid off and still looks new! Great job, bro!
/r/MGTOW25/07/18 02:15 PM
1

One of the best movies ever.
/r/MGTOW25/07/18 02:08 PM
2

Hee hee ha ha ha hee hee
/r/MGTOW25/07/18 02:07 PM
1

Yup, there are no good choices.
/r/MGTOW25/07/18 02:03 PM
1

If that's true then that is sad. It shows what kind of world we live in. Although, if it's true then her saying that it was mutual in her post is now evidence for the defense.
/r/MGTOW25/07/18 01:59 PM
1

Believe whatever you want.
/r/MGTOW25/07/18 01:57 PM
3

Losing game. MGTOW, rule, never agree to pay for and be a father to another man's child. Once you do, you can be stripped of all of your assets and be vulnerable to financial ruin, especially if you agree to adopt. Total nightmare. If the relationship goes south then you're still stuck for child support and possibly wage support. Fuck that shit.
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 10:51 PM
6

LOL. Last comment is great
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 10:41 PM
5

Well said. Harsh but so true.
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 06:04 PM
6

You last line stole my thought. Sometimes dealing with shitty people is just the lesson that you need to learn in order to move on and get to the next level. Her terrible treatment of you allowed you to do that. Good for you and I hope for many more successes in your future. Thanks for sharing your story. Hopefully other bros will see this and become inspired themselves.
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 06:03 PM
2

They're called feminists. Our educational system has been focusing on girls in school for 40-50 years. They give them support, encouragement, scholarships, etc... and make the educational system by women for the benefit of girls. They have been told to be independent, to focus on their careers over relationships, and that they don't need anyone. On that level it's been great for women; my only critique is that they should have been encouraging boys and empowering them as well. Instead, schools a…
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 05:56 PM
1

Oh, well, I stand corrected, clearly ALL MGTOW must be that way then.
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 05:46 PM
3

I must be missing all the 'hate' you're referring to. Single moms are fine. For MGTOW, though, they're a disaster waiting to happen. Never marry them or let them move in. If you do, then the state recognizes the relationship and you end up having to support them and their children, especially in California. MGTOW rule, never pay for another man's child. So dating single moms is fine as far as it goes without making any long term commitments are financial commitments along the way. That's really …
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 04:29 PM
7

Yeah, like, what's up with that? She's pretty much announcing that she's a total dipshit.
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 04:19 PM
4

I'm in the US but it seems like feminism is worse in Australia. They treat Germain Greer like a national treasure and seem to pass laws quickly that put more and more men at a disadvantage in their society. Looks like family and divorce court is an example. No thanks.
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 04:17 PM
4

LOL.
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 04:12 PM
7

Oh, she's a murderer. And how can you film someone when they're struggling for their life? She's also a sociopath. She should do hard time as an accessory to murder as well, not just manslaughter. Terrible. You don't like they guy, tell him it's over and go fuck your insane bf. Why kill him? Fucking stupid people.
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 03:52 PM
14

Well, it may be regret but at least she's not calling it "rape."
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 03:48 PM
3

Oh, she should have seen that coming.
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 03:46 PM
2

We're in upside down world these days.
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 03:45 PM
3

Great story. Please keep sharing your successes and milestones as you progress. Here's to you reaching whatever you set out to do next. All the best.
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 03:41 PM
2

This is how #MeToo is playing out. Women are being indoctrinated into the idea that any action a man takes is considered a violation of the law.
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 03:27 PM
25

You could report to HR that mistreated another employee because of his gender. I doubt it would go anywhere but you never know, we're so culturally hyper-sensitive - especially in the workplace, that they may have to take it seriously. Also, being a whistle blower has it's own costs so you may consider what might happen to you from management or HR. Maybe find out how HR has handled anything in the past, if you can. Remember, HR is in place to protect the company and it's leadership, not you, ne…
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 10:57 PM
1

Yeah, make sure not to move in with her and like you said, be able to walk away. Have sex until you're ready to move on, and keep holding frame, for lack of a better term, so that she keeps seeking your approval. I don't get that mindset but I agree, a lot of women operate that way. You sound very socially and emotionally advanced, so it doesn't sound like she'll have much to offer you long term anyway. That, and you'll probably want to move on to someone younger. Have fun while it lasts and the…
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 10:51 PM
8

LOL. That's the perfect response to outright subservience for no particular reason other than totally whipped. I like women but let's no go crazy, she's a human being like everyone else. Not some ethereal creature that you have to worship like a deity. I was nauseated just reading that.
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 09:11 PM
8

Karen understands what's going on with men and is a great resource.
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 06:27 PM
2

Not really a political sub. I can't stand Trump but I'm still MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 05:53 PM
4

Yes, that's it! Thanks.
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 05:44 PM
2

I saw a pretty decent video from a woman last week that explained why should understood that men would go MGTOW. I've never met any woman that supports it, though.
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 05:42 PM
2

Great post. MGTOW wasn't really a choice for baby boomers or Gen Xers, so a lot of guys "got a job and got married." I like that men who are married are adopting MGTOW lifestyles. I think you're still MGTOW and doing the right thing. The message you're now sending your wife is that she has to bring something to the table too, that you're as much of a prize as she thinks she is. Good for you and thanks for sharing your story and views.
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 03:57 PM
1

Agreed. The other option would be a rock-solid prenup, but those don't really protect you either. Just don't get married.
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 03:47 PM
14

I'd love to seen a female army get slaughtered, I just don't think Hollywood and viewing audiences have the stomach for it. I remember so female soldiers in a scifi movie, I think it was called Stormtroopers, where some females got dismembered by giant bugs, but there were men getting slaughtered along with them. It was a good start, though.
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 03:45 PM
3

Holy fuck. Thought I'd seen just about everything.
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 03:41 PM
1

Respectful and firm. Great job. That's how it's done.
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 03:31 PM
3

Some MGTOW are bitter toward women, I see that on this sub, that's true. But MGTOW is not about women at all and I'd like to think that as MGTOW mature they become indifferent to women and understand that it is society and the gynocentric laws that are to be wary off and that over time, MGTOW become less resentful of individual women. It's not about individuals, it's about society, laws, the culture we live in. That's why MGTOW matters. PUAs can go eat a bag of dicks if they don't understand it …
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 03:29 PM
1

Ouch. LOL
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 03:24 PM
2

I like it!
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 03:24 PM
4

WTF? This is transparent hatred. And it's hatred for people based on their gender and skin color. Was hoping we were making progress in this area but it seems to be getting worse. Men should understand that this is how they are viewed now and adjust accordingly.
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 03:21 PM
5

Good point. Times have changed.
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 04:15 PM
9

Well, at least this lot of women are transparent about how shallow, narcissistic - generally what terrible human beings they are.
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 04:12 PM
3

Right on. I L.O.V.E. love this movie because of that. And actually, it's MGTOW too. It asks men to examine themselves and be honest about what they see and how to change it. It also describes the condition of this generation of men in the the "you're not special" speech. And it smacks you around with boilerplate facts tailor made for men to understand in "all singing all dancing crap of the world" segment. Society has been messaging to men since before the nineties that they're the all singing a…
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 03:18 PM
7

Holy fuck. I can't believe how terrible people can be. Can't trust anyone.
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 02:55 PM
1

LOL.
/r/MGTOW19/07/18 10:23 PM
8

I hope that isn't true. WTF? I can't believe that. Who could ever do that? How could anyone even think to do that in the first place? Holy fuck.
/r/MGTOW19/07/18 10:21 PM
8

What's interesting about the last comment is that it is assumed that the worst thing is cheating on one's partner and not the 18+ years of lies in order to get him to pay for a kid that isn't his. Rule #1, Never get married. Rule #2, refer to rule #1. Also, MANDATORY PATERNITY TESTS AT BIRTH. That shit is so fucked up.
/r/MGTOW19/07/18 10:19 PM
2

So this is all about how much better women are at being rejected than men. Who would have though, right? Most women probably didn't respond with a story in the first place and the the few that did probably had ONE story of rejection. Men will be rejected hundreds or more times because society requires them to take the risk of getting shot down so that women don't have to. What I do think gets missed, is that after a while, men wise up and stop trying. Some go full MGTOW, others live MGTOW withou…
/r/MGTOW19/07/18 10:11 PM
4

So how's the other plate? :) You're in the driver's seat. Women suddenly love what they can no longer have. You'll have to give us updates. Hope everything goes well.
/r/MGTOW19/07/18 09:54 PM
2

I don't think that nice guys are bad people I just think that they are playing a losing game that won't reap the benefits that they think they'll get for being 'nice.' Don't prioritize someone else, woman or man. Prioritize yourself. If you're successful then the female attention you crave will come because you made yourself independent and successful, which is what they desire. That's flipping the script. Why perform favors like a jukebox monkey for scraps of attention from one woman? Better to…
/r/MGTOW19/07/18 09:49 PM
14

I'm ready to see it devolve into chaos. I want to see how society flails when men just focus on themselves and their own needs. I don't think it will happen in our lifetimes because so few men are MGTOW, but I'm not afraid of the Western world becoming a total shit show for a while. In fact, I would say that it's necessary before things can start to get better.
/r/MGTOW19/07/18 09:34 PM
3

Can your dad bring his dog to your place and leave the bitch behind?
/r/MGTOW19/07/18 09:27 PM
1

Agreed. I would maybe amend it a little. You should appear to be playing the game that society expects you to in order to leverage how it works for you own benefit, at least while it's useful to you somehow, until it isn't anymore, but covertly be playing your own game that society, friends, family, are not aware of. MGTOW. When you're suddenly way ahead of the pack, the pack will still be trying to figure out how the hell you got there. It comes down to listening to your own voice, putting your…
/r/MGTOW19/07/18 09:15 PM
5

Why do guys just stand there and get hit? I mean, I know you're not supposed to hit back but why stand there? Just leave!
/r/MGTOW19/07/18 08:39 PM
1

For young guys in college I would also recommend never having contact with women on campus and especially not having intimate relations with women at your university. Anything bad happens, the university will kick you out and no other university will take you in. If you have to date or scratch an itch, only do it with women who don't go to your school and who can use a campus tribunal to torpedo your career and long term job prospects. Keep your eye on the prize, get your degrees, get your good …
/r/MGTOW18/07/18 06:35 PM
5

I haven't look into it and honestly, I don't know why you wouldn't smash pussy if it's being offered for free; we're all human, after all. It's just a natural urge. The only thing I keep in mind is not to sell out for it. Don't let anyone live with you or get married and move in, etc... That's WAY too high a price for sex. But once the price for sex becomes super cheap, I don't see a problem with MGTOWs having their fun, as long as they use protection, and then moving on. Just my 2 cents. I'll n…
/r/MGTOW18/07/18 06:26 PM
18

Exactly. There's no way that's true. Women have more partners on average.
/r/MGTOW18/07/18 04:37 PM
5

The Exhaustiva headline is really interesting. "New report finds no evidence that having sex with robots is healthy." The report should have been asking if having sex with robots is 'unhealthy.' Agreed, desperation.
/r/MGTOW18/07/18 03:02 PM
1

Absolutely beautiful.
/r/MGTOW18/07/18 02:59 PM
2

I would suggest something less formal. Perhaps meeting for coffee or a drink where there is no expectation of anyone pay for the other. To me, a dinner is something that happens when a formal relationship has been established and both parties are into doing nice things for each other, like dinner. Dinners set up expectations on her end too. If she let's you pay then she may feel pressure to have sex, etc... Or, in order to not have sex, she may insist on paying half, which just makes everything …
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 10:12 PM
18

"We’ve been socially engineered to chase women, but from a strictly logical standpoint, it doesn’t make sense at all....." Hmm, I would say that men are also biologically engineered to want to have sex early and often with as many different women as possible. As gatekeepers of sex women will try to demand as high a price as possible. So, if a woman can get a man to marry her and extract his wealth from him, all for sex, then she'll absolutely do it. The key for men is to extract the sex without …
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 09:36 PM
3

I think you're fine just letting her be a FWB. Or if you haven't been sexual yet then maybe that comes later. If you're just being chill and not putting expectations on the relationship then I think you're doing it right. Sit back and see where the relationship goes naturally. If she starts to have expectations then that's the time to say how you feel. You don't have to make a big show of being MGTOW, you just say that you love being with her, which you do, and would love to continue seeing her,…
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 09:28 PM
7

Some serious truth there.
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 09:07 PM
1

Great comment. I agree.
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 09:00 PM
8

So nice. Not too into bikes but I'm drooling over that car. Have fun, stay safe!
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 08:58 PM
1

Good story and so true. Having an ok salary but saving and only buying what you want and need instead of what everyone attached to you wants and needs cuts your expenses drastically. Don't feel bad. Life is the result of choices that each of us make. He made his choices, he has to own them even though he seems like a good dude. You made yours. You were cool to buy it later when he wasn't there too.
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 08:52 PM
1

Sweet! Have a great vacation.
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 08:44 PM
4

WTF kind of world do we live in anymore. Basically girls/women can do no wrong, boys/men are evil and need to be punished early and often. This is fucking BS. If I were the parents I would remove the child from that school.
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 08:41 PM
2

My thoughts exactly. Every potential father that is being asked to pay for and support a child and that child's mother should have the right to determine whether or not the child is even his. Best not to be married or living together, of course, just to establish that you're not already providing that to the mother and child. If you do that, then the state just assumes you're the father regardless.
/r/MGTOW17/07/18 08:32 PM
12

It's interesting that you mention it being a feminist culture that does the shaming. So true. It seems that it feminists that engage in shaming men for not being, well, masculine. But then they go on about toxic masculinity, etc... So you really can't keep up with all of the hypocrisy and double standards. Just do you and don't give two fucks what other people think. In fact, if someone is shaming you it's likely because they're trying to get you to do something, or change your mind, or not do s…
/r/MGTOW06/07/18 04:58 PM
6

So true. You think women love you because you're a male feminist, and then they turn on you. What a joke. He should have seen this coming.
/r/MGTOW06/07/18 04:03 PM
50

Apparently so. Maybe she should stop and ask herself why that is.
/r/MGTOW06/07/18 03:43 PM
1

You did the right thing. Give it another 2 years and see what's she's up to.
/r/MGTOW06/07/18 03:26 PM
1

Do they really need a chart for that, or was it just to rub it in! :)
/r/MGTOW06/07/18 03:20 PM
6

Imagine if guys didn't settle, like all of them, not just MGTOW. Ha!
/r/MGTOW06/07/18 03:13 PM
8

Hmm, I'll pass.
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 05:15 PM
5

If you're single then you're already not allowed very many deductibles. Although the tax laws are changed so I'm not sure how that will differentiate singles and couples.
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 05:14 PM
1

Yup. Exactly.
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 04:55 PM
1

Slam. LOL.
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 03:25 PM
7

My thoughts, exactly. WTF?
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 03:24 PM
2

LOL. Best thing I've seen in a while. Thanks for sharing.
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 03:23 PM
1

Nice. Sometimes you need a good shag though. You can go for a while and it builds up. You have to leave room enough to scratch that itch and then reset, IMO. But I love what you're saying. Glad to hear you're at that point of self fulfillment and don't NEED anyone. That's the best.
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 03:22 PM
1

Good one. Abiding.
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 03:18 PM
0

So true.
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 03:14 PM
2

Agreed. I've seen guys sharing their experiences and living a lot of different versions of MGTOW and have seen mostly support and respect for each other even if people disagree. That's how it's supposed to be. I especially like to see guys sharing their passion/hobbies, photos of places around the world they've been traveling to, and anything that is showing how much they're enjoying their life and lifestyle.
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 03:13 PM
27

"men care more about women than men, women care more about women than men." Never heard it said like that but so true.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/18 02:57 PM
2

hee hee. LOL :)
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 02:51 PM
8

Uhm, men have always broken up over cheating. Not sure what planet she's from.
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 02:50 PM
5

Agreed. But many choices that MGTOW have to make regard women in some form. So it's baked in a little.
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 07:02 PM
2

"Its not a disorder but it is clearly a symptom of mental imbalance." That's a professional opinion? Yeah, thought so. I insulted you because you put forth a preconceived idea to people that you already decided you didn't like and wanted to insult/shame. I actually won the argument before it got started. Go eat a bag of dicks.
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 07:00 PM
3

I don't go to clubs. In fact, some clubs charge men more than women anyway. I'd love it if men just stopped going to clubs altogether. I do have gay friends though, and yes, typically they're way more fun to just drink and socialize with. So I can attest to that.
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 06:56 PM
1

Agreed. I don't really know what's on TRP, I don't go there much. MGTOW seems like a natural reaction to how society is today. If TRP is much the same then I don't have any qualms.
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 06:54 PM
1

Well, you can't argue because nowhere is misogyny documented as a mental health disorder. You're just making that shit up. Suck ass, bitch.
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 06:48 PM
3

I would think that most MGTOW don't hate women, but they do understand female nature and adjust accordingly. Your second assumption is completely stupid. Sure, a misogynist can be MGTOW for whatever reason(s), perhaps a prior experience that justifies his hate toward women, or certain women. The assumption that misogyny is akin to mental insanity, or has any connection to being insane, schizophrenic, etc... , shows your stupidity.
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 06:40 PM
18

She (second comment) pretty much proved what the OP wrote. LOL.
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 06:31 PM
5

Not bad but I'm bigger. LOL.
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 06:23 PM
3

Technically that's assault. But that's the shit that you can't report unless you're a child and in some statutory situation and your parents find out.
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 06:20 PM
8

If you're in in college, do not date, have relations with, or hang out with any woman who goes to the same school. WAY too much risk. In fact, until you graduate and get a good job, probably best not to associate with any women. It is a key time of your life that will determine your quality of life from that point on.
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 05:59 PM
1

The beginning of the end.
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 03:50 PM
5

Divorces can lead to alcoholism and depression. I know a guy that just divorced. He's on antidepressants and just sits in his house and drinks when he gets home from work. He's probably suicidal too. Not saying this happens to every guy that gets divorced, but it does seem to drastically increase the chances of unhealthy behavior.
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 03:48 PM
1

That's fucking awesome. Not many guys get off that easy. Good on you!
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 03:44 PM
2

Or she says, "I should be able to go wherever I want without being attacked"............promptly gets eaten by alligator.
/r/MGTOW29/06/18 05:11 PM
2

Before his time?
/r/MGTOW29/06/18 04:04 PM
3

The whole 'White men are evil and the cause of all of the world's problems" narrative is fucking tiresome. It's so easy and simplistic. It absolves everyone else of responsibility for their own actions. Of course it's popular!!! It's also lazy, and fucking stupid. Anytime I hear a person that says anything with the term 'white men' in it, I look at them and think - Lazy Idiot. Makes me feel good. :)
/r/MGTOW29/06/18 04:02 PM
5

Sounds like Pops has been learnin' jr. Ha! I'll bet mom is an 'ex'
/r/MGTOW29/06/18 03:56 PM
5

LOL. Seen that one before. Never gets old.
/r/MGTOW29/06/18 03:54 PM
1

Gain the experience that you need and then get out. The best way to get a raise is to leave for a better job. Don't stay on, especially under those conditions. You make money when you get a new job, most raises are minimal. So this job was 40k more than zero, that part is good. It would take way too many raises to get you to 50k and several years, but it would take one job change after 1 year of experience to get you to 50 or 55, etc... Don't stay around long. Just long enough to max out your sk…
/r/MGTOW28/06/18 10:59 PM
1

Holy shit.......LOL.
/r/MGTOW28/06/18 10:49 PM
12

Yeah, sure he is.
/r/MGTOW28/06/18 10:43 PM
2

I'm interested in how she might test your defenses. By asking why you feel that way and then trying to find flaws in your answers? Or by just getting emotional? Or by trying to shame you? By using her kids as leverage? Outright manipulation or gaslighting? Or a combination of all of these and others that I haven't thought of? Could be a good thought experiment. Let us know what happens.
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 10:33 PM
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A lot of men from previous generations had that and it worked for them. He's from the Baby Boomer gen so it's probably true for him and other guys his age or older, on average. For younger guys, the marriage numbers look pathetic and the divorce numbers are skyrocketing. So yeah, it's his truth, but not necessarily something that works for younger generations. I find that he's very interesting, has a lot of insight. I'd say I agree with maybe 75% of what he says, which, TBH, I don't agree with m…
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 10:29 PM
2

She'll get there sooner or later. Don't kid yourself. In fact, tell her that YOU don't see YOURSELF married in ten years. See what kind of conversation that starts. Good luck.
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 10:23 PM
1

Yep, easy as that.
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 09:26 PM
3

Whoa! Run, dude. It is absolutely NOT up for debate. Never get married and never agree to be the father of another man's child/children. He needs to take care of and pay for their upbringing. You get married, you're paying for everything for them and college too. That's her responsibility and her exe's. You marry her, that responsibility shifts to you. They may be nice kids but that is a HUGE burden that you're taking on, and for what, exactly? Don't move in with her either. Common law marriage …
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 09:01 PM
1

Wow.
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 08:50 PM
6

Good on you. Give us updates.
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 08:49 PM
23

Yeah, White Knight Cucks are despicable creatures. They will do anything to virtue signal how great they are to as many women as they can in the hope that it might turn into some action for them. Women see through it most of the time. Blue pill men are probably the most duplicitous people alive, and that's saying something.
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 07:53 PM
3

Actually, yeah, the health considerations are not even being talked about. That, in some cases, could be life and death.
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 07:45 PM
41

Paternity tests should be MANDATORY at birth and the father should be given thirty days or more to decide if he wants to adopt any non-biological child with his wife, or to reject it as a basis for divorce. The fact that states require male spouses to father children that are not theirs, against their will, with their cheating wives because they happen to be married at the time of birth is absolutely criminal. This is yet another reason to follow MGTOW RULE #1 - DON'T GET MARRIED!!!! So much shi…
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 05:03 PM
28

If you get the Porsche then you'll have women anyway, whether you want them or not. LOL.
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 04:55 PM
3

I don't support the Swedish model. As a social libertarian I think that prostitution should be legal. If it were legal everywhere, the price would drop considerably. Win/Win for any MGTOW that just want to scratch the itch and then get back to what's important.
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 04:49 PM
12

MGTOW doesn't have to be a mass awakening to be successful for everyone that is MGTOW. Still, if you have sons, red pill the fuck out of them and make them MGTOW. Same with friends. If they do the same for their friends then great. It doesn't hurt anything.
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 04:45 PM
2

"I got other issues like I don't work or drive and I live in a group home,but add girls not wanting me and I just want to die......" Couple of things. First, if you live your live in relation to what other people think of you then you'll never be happy. You have to be happy with yourself. How do you do that? By taking responsibility for yourself. Get your shit done that you need to get done. Aspire to something and be ultra successful at it. When you are successful you feel better about who you …
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 09:59 PM
16

No better way to describe it.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 09:44 PM
1

That looks fun.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 09:42 PM
13

Sounds about right. I've read in the past that young boys are many more times likely to be treated for hyperactivity in schools. I think I remember seeing that in some places 1 in 5 boys were being treated. That number may be too high but I know it was significant. Can't we let boys just grow up naturally?
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 09:41 PM
3

That has 'disaster' written all over it. I love the line about how you don't have to be part of the child's life if you don't want to. Yeah sure, but nothing about her not coming after you for child support to make sure your money is part of the child's life. Fucking NO WAY.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 09:37 PM
1

Cool pooch.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 09:34 PM
1

I’m also deeply suspicious of people who don’t like dogs. Agree.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 08:47 PM
1

I don't see it as related at all.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 08:41 PM
1

Seems like after 60k it's been going faster. Could be just me.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 08:39 PM
1

Great point about the commitment level. Marriage is an all or nothing proposition. If the commitment level was at least a little balanced, then maybe. As it is, if the marriage doesn't work out, men lose all and have nothing. Not worth it. Especially if you can't see your kids. That's not a financial thing but it's still a high cost. Women talk about systemic oppression all the time, especially feminists. But when it comes to divorce, family law, sentencing, DV law, or by just getting accused of…
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 08:38 PM
6

Good thing you're minors. Accusations are serious shit with #MeToo. Guys lose their jobs, livelihood when that shit happens.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 07:57 PM
5

Thanks!
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 06:20 PM
1

The hazards of the job. LOL
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 06:18 PM
5

I think she's trying to tell you something. :)
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 06:16 PM
5

I think that I will like volunteer when I'm retired. I'm not close yet but I'm with you there. Also, I want to dedicate time to personal pursuits. I also want to do more outside, possibly as a volunteer, as well as exercise. I want to be able to build more contacts and friends to hang with as a retiree. I think that if I stay active, have a poker night once a month with the gang, and a few dinners with some key friends, and that would be enough for me.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 06:15 PM
1

Damn. That's a bad-ass ride.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 06:11 PM
3

No. An escort or prostitute is WAY cheaper than a wife. Do whatever you gotta do. Just protect yourself. There's no one MGTOW way.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 05:23 PM
1

Fucking awesome. I love the flooring. Congrats, dude, that place rocks.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 05:21 PM
1

Awesome. Love dog pics. They are truly loyal until the end. No questions asked, even if they could! :)
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 05:19 PM
6

Beautiful.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 05:17 PM
13

Anyone know who this person is or where the full video is? This is some shit.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 03:42 PM
29

"Keep flexing you magnificent bastards" LOL. I fucking love that.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 03:40 PM
1

Also, listen and follow the Dave Ramsey podcast and read his book. Follow his guidelines religiously. Take ownership of the debt snowball and become truly financially free. Best advice a young man can follow.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 03:31 PM
26

Awesome. I love dogs, they are an example of what it means to be loyal. Labs in particular. I love the chocolates. He's a beaut.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 03:28 PM
1

I'm envious. I've wanted to do that for years but life has kind of gotten in the way. Way to go, dude.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 03:25 PM
2

Anything to rationalize bad behavior. SMH. Even if that were true, and I don't buy that bullshit, it's still a shitty thing to do to someone. The absolute fucking mind-bending logic that you have to have in order to justify fucking someone over is legion. Guy gets caught, he says, "yeah, I don't know why but I just fucked her." Or similar. Not any of these bullshit elaborate reasons that make her sound like the victim and that he drove her to it, or that she loved him so much that cheating on hi…
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 03:21 PM
2

True wisdom in a cartoon show!
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 03:13 PM
1

I want that!! That would be perfect in my state.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 03:11 PM
5

What's interesting is listening to feminists say that these are their issues. That it's because of patriarchy and toxic masculinity that these things are happening to men. They are trying to co-opt them as feminist issues now.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 03:11 PM
3

Love BC's. They are the smartest breed.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 03:08 PM
5

This whole thing with Chloe Dykstra interesting to watch. She is accusing him of being an ass-hat but it seems like the media is turning on her a little and that she may have embellished her side of the story. Either way, her ex is ruined. He lost his show at least.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 03:06 PM
6

Exactly. Great post.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 02:26 PM
2

Awesome! But watch out. If you thought spending money on PUA crap was good, see how much the women start trolling for you when they learn you have you're own place! LOL. Don't let anyone move in with you. Fucking sweet, dude. Truly happy for you and I'm hoping this is just the first in many successes for you.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 02:22 PM
7

Beautiful. Cool pooch too!
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 10:14 PM
1

"Go, work on yourself, your mind and body, your spirituality, your knowledge, your worldview." You're getting close to what MGTOW is about, truly. You need to do more studying. But if guys want to show off their rides, what's the big deal? Take whatever medication you've missed for the last few days and get back to us.
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 10:13 PM
5

Suck ass, bitch.
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 10:08 PM
1

Agree on both points. Marching, however, will never work because, again, society can't afford to see males as victims." So it's never going to happen. What actually might facilitate systemic change, like biases in courts against men, is if hundreds of thousands of men of each generation, choose not to get married. For every action there will be a cultural adjustment. It may not be what we expect, but it might be that people in power make laws fairer for men so that people have incentive to start…
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 10:06 PM
4

"We can get 80%-90% of what he's worth" Yikes. That's all you need to know about why never to get married.
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 09:37 PM
1

I agree that instinct plays a part in outcomes and that women probably are willing to go by instinct because social marketplace, for lack of a better term, favors them. But humans, unlike sharks - or more so than sharks, I presume, can think in the abstract and be self determined, so as to go against their instincts. They are more successful at this the older they get. This is the whole experiment where you give a kid a cupcake and tell him/her that if he doesn't eat it for five mins then you'll…
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 09:24 PM
2

Fair enough. Your post came off like MGTOW virtue signaling. To me, 'MGTOW Lite' comes off as derogatory. That's just how I took it though, maybe others don't see it that way.
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 05:55 PM
7

I like that shift. It's about MGTOW supporting MGTOW. Shit about women will come up, but it shouldn't be the focus, IMO.
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 05:47 PM
71

So he's not good enough for her, but he's a nice guy? LOL. SMH.
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 05:44 PM
3

I disagree. This reminds me of the Catholic priests who wanted to show how devout they were by not having sex the night before they were going to do a sermon. Soon, it became more nights and then everyone had to be celibate. It was like a contest of devout-ness. If you want to be a monk then that's fine. But MGTOW, for me, is a set of choices having to do with protecting yourself and your assets from the fucked up laws that society poses. It's not about women and whether or not you have women in…
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 05:38 PM
2

I've always done this. My retirement account rocks. My car? Meh. That's ok though.
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 04:43 PM
1

So sweet.
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 04:38 PM
2

Awesome. That's a lot of discipline and dedication. Congrats.
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 04:35 PM
1

Nice.
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 04:34 PM
2

I don't see MGTOW as a movement to get shit done for men. It's each man getting shit done for himself. I think it would lose something if a bunch of MGTOW started marching in the streets demanding things. Society would just ridicule and shame those efforts because, generally speaking, society can't afford to see males as victims. MGTOW, IMO, is better off as a set of ideas that each man makes for himself; and he answers to nobody. That's just me though.
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 04:33 PM
1

If you're saying that we can all only go on instinct and that we have no will do any else but what's in our nature and if there are no differences between women and sharks, for example, then yeah, I suppose.
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 04:28 PM
5

As a man, I take precautions. It's not a gender thing. I drive too and from lighted places. If I'm walking somewhere then I'm with other people, otherwise I Uber. I do this because everyone has to think about their own safety. You can walk through the world with the idea that you 'should' be able to do whatever you want, or you can walk through the world understanding how it is in reality. If you are adamant about choosing the former because you're just that obstinate and resolute, then you're f…
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 10:54 PM
5

Agreed. Doesn't quite pass the smell test.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/18 10:44 PM
9

No, it's being a terrible mom to your child, or being fucking stupid.
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 09:43 PM
3

Fucking unbelievable. Well, I believe it, actually.
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 09:41 PM
9

I hope this is not true. I'm thinking shallow, narcissistic. Fucking coldhearted and downright sociopathic. Wow. Just, wow.
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 09:37 PM
3

What a fucking idiot.
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 09:22 PM
5

It should not prevent you from having friends or being able to talk to your family. You don't have discuss MGTOW, you should be in the moment with whomever you're with at the time. Sounds like you need to expand your social group.
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 06:53 PM
2

Ah, good point. Nowadays that's considered rape. Best to deny all.
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 06:49 PM
11

Early signaling for sure.
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 06:44 PM
2

In the west, your gender determines your punishment as well.
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 06:42 PM
2

hee hee ha ha!
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 06:22 PM
19

So you get more exercise, lose weight, get toned. Not a bad start.
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 06:21 PM
3

Right, but it's just about 'equality', feminists don't hate men. Sure.
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 06:17 PM
1

Cool!
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 06:15 PM
1

Nice.
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 06:14 PM
2

From what I've been able to observe feminists have never used science to 'prove' much. In fact, it's never stopped them at all from whatever their agenda is. For instance, all they have to do is assert that something is true, and then point out instances as 'proof.' Take patriarchy theory. They assert that it exists, which defeats the point of it being a 'theory' and then point at things that they don't like in society as 'proof' that it exists. Literally everything that they see at that point, …
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 06:13 PM
2

My thoughts, exactly. Hope that is the case in the state that he lives.
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 05:56 PM
6

4 months is not very long. A divorce court may agree to annul and tell both parties that they should leave with what they entered into the relationship with and call it good. Either way, he should act fast and never look back.
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 05:28 PM
1

Is this for WarHammer? I've recently been told this has been a very popular game for decades but I had never heard of it before.
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 05:20 PM
1

Except for Bradley, they'll all change their answers by 25.
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 05:17 PM
22

LOL. Nice.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 09:46 PM
1

The married one is key, don't ever get married. Also, don't let anyone move in with you, that's just common law marriage and you're screwed there too. Don't ever agree to adopt or take care of another man's child, again, refer to the above. Let him pay for his kids. I'm told that The Rational Male by Rollo Tomasi is good and sets you straight on how you, as a young male, are viewed by society and women. Richard Cooper (Entrepreneurs in Cars) has a pretty good youtube channel for men as well. Oth…
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 09:43 PM
1

44.9% of custodial mothers awarded CS receive their child support in full vs Only 35.5% of custodial fathers awarded CS receive their child support in full Interesting. So, on a percentage basis at least, more fathers pay in full than mothers. Anyone ever hear of a deadbeat mom? I haven't, I only hear about deadbeat dads. Has a deadbeat mom ever been jailed for non-payment? Wonder what the rate of incarceration is for deadbeat moms vs deadbeat dads. I could guess, and I'd probably be right.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 09:32 PM
2

I believe his show was canceled after this came out last week and he is out of work, for now. No trial, no judge, other than popular opinion, and he's done. Now, if he was an a-hole, then whatever, but he should still get due process. Instead, he's ruined even if he has an explanation, or his side to the story. Nobody will care. He's toast, she's the victim. No way to fight it.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 09:21 PM
4

LOL.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 08:59 PM
19

Don't hate. It's wasted energy and it makes you less than what you could be. Be agnostic or indifferent, but don't spend time and energy hating, it's not worth it and it doesn't look good on anyone. I get where you're coming from, though.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 08:50 PM
2

Yep, it's been going on forever and only now are men really getting wise to what's "goin' on." Obviously that song is about something different but yeah, since the seventies men have been emotionally and financially raped. Time to wake up and smell the coffee.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 06:23 PM
5

LOL.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 06:18 PM
4

Identity politics has got to go.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 06:15 PM
8

LOL. Nice.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 06:05 PM
3

Sorry that you had to pick up the slack once he left but I support his decision to leave. He was right that she should have had the spine, and decency, to address him directly rather than talking shit behind his back. I get it. Sorry that he left you high and dry. Once someone gets pissed, they'll say anything. The comment about women was more heat-of-the-moment but may be his truth.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 06:04 PM
1

Damn, that looks fun.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 05:41 PM
13

I love the response.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 05:41 PM
2

Amen to that.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 05:27 PM
1

Found the article: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/father-s-day-men-are-experiencing-crisis-masculinity-solution-more-ncna884051 Berlatsky is a feminist tool. It's interesting how the article is actually trying to co-opt MRA talking points to make the further case for feminism. A big red flag in the article is his mis-application of the Jordan Peterson quote about "enforced monogamy." JP is not advocating for any such system and was misrepresented by the person who was interviewing him at …
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 05:25 PM
1

Focus on yourself, your business, and your own growth. Strive to be the best version of yourself as you can possibly be. Put yourself first. The one thing that women drool over is success. It's called hypergamy. The minute you're flying high, you'll have plenty of attention. Just remember that you are your own advocate and nobody else. Listen to your own voice and remember the time that nobody cared about you. Because when they suddenly DO care about you, you'll know why. You sound very smart an…
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 04:55 PM
2

As time goes by your worth goes up. When you're employed at a good job, have your own house and car, etc, then more women come trolling. A grown-ass man with a good job who has his shit together starts to look good to 30-ish women. This is your time to shine. Leverage your worth to have some fun if you want. Women make the rules from 17-26 or so. After that, things start to change. From 25-40 or so is your fun time. Be safe and protect yourself, and don't get married or live with anyone, but don…
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 04:46 PM
8

Read the legal horror post to understand how screwed you can be in this society if you make the wrong choices, choices that society has told you are good. They're not: https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/8rrjic/exwife_receives_1400_his_monthly_retirement/ And tell your friends.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 04:35 PM
2

Holy fuck. When you read stories like this it really drives home that MGTOW is the only rational choice.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 04:32 PM
2

Awesome response. I really do think that more guys are waking up to the forces at work against them. More so than I've seen before, at least. Good for him.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 08:07 PM
4

Wooohoo! Now go forth and create more MGTOW! Don't let your friends get sucked down society's shit-hole. We help each other out. Peace.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 08:04 PM
6

Ain't that the truth! LOL
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 08:01 PM
2

I don't know about all of that but hypergamy is real. That has been proven out pretty consistently.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 07:58 PM
2

That's the only answer. Well, that and condoms are the only reproductive options for men and Vasectomies are the more effective of those two options.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 07:42 PM
2

Haha! Awesome.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 07:38 PM
1

LOL.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 07:36 PM
1

Great post. Agreed.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 07:35 PM
3

When you make friends they'll be long lasting friendships. People who have a lot of friends don't necessarily have quality friends that they can count on, rather, they are more shallow and narcissistic. If you're your own best friend then that's the perfect start. Build out from there, but only on quality and integrity. Be the friend to others that you want to have in return and things will go well. Don't make friends for the sake of doing so. That's the wrong motivation. Best of luck.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 07:32 PM
5

His understanding of MGTOW is over-simplified. "Yes, I know MGTOW and Incel ideologies have structural differences, but the subtext is the same: the scapegoating of women for male woes. " First, conflating incels and MGTOWs is an egregious oversight despite him trying to acknowledge that they're actually very different. His excuse, that the subtexts are the same, is even worse. MGTOW is not about BLAMING anyone, women or otherwise. It's about accepting reality and about understanding the risks t…
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 07:25 PM
3

That mindset is what I would call 'privileged.' They just don't see themselves the way that other people do. Way too narcissistic. If I knew this person and her views then I would have no respect for her. She sees these guys as losers but doesn't realize that she's one herself. Just because people are willing to give you attention doesn't mean that you're actually a decent human being.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 05:09 PM
15

Holy crap. Those poor kids. SMH.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 04:50 PM
4

I don't understand how we got here but this is insane. She tells him to thank the guy, he does, then she punishes him for shit other people do. I don't know what this world is coming to but it seems like we're in the fucking twilight zone, or reverse world, or something. It's no wonder nobody has respect for the justice system.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 04:47 PM
2

Sure. :) How about we just do 'Parents' day?
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 04:39 PM
15

Great post. Thanks for writing it. I think lurkers and the like have already made their minds up about MGTOW before they come here. So they're not really open to the ideas shared here. They'll just gravitate and/or focus on the most provocative comments rather than really learning about MGTOW. They just know that they want to hate it/us.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 03:51 PM
3

I never understood this. I always make a clean break and never look back.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 03:44 PM
3

LOL.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 03:43 PM
3

The conversation around fathers is weird, these days. On one hand, since second wave most feminists have maintained that fathers aren't necessary. On they other, other feminists say that they want fathers to help out around the house and with the kids. Also, recently, more and more studies are finding out that children, especially boys, do much better with a father in the home. So now we're stuck in a situation where society is realizing that fathers are important but those facts fly in the face…
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 03:42 PM
7

My point is that fact or opinion doesn't matter. Expressing an opinion that is unpopular, or pointing out a fact that is unpopular amounts to the same thing. There are sanctioned ideas and facts and unsanctioned ideas and facts. If you dare to recognize the unsanctioned of either, then you're not following doctrine and therefore deserving of firing. This is the new work environment for all of us now, or will be soon enough.
/r/MGTOW14/06/18 10:11 PM
4

Sounds about right.
/r/MGTOW14/06/18 09:57 PM
6

Wow. You're supposed to be happy and supportive as a partner. How can someone be so selfish?
/r/MGTOW14/06/18 09:53 PM
2

Enjoy your time. Fucking awesome.
/r/MGTOW14/06/18 09:46 PM
7

Agreed. The point is, he got fired for his opinion.
/r/MGTOW14/06/18 09:39 PM
2

Seems like there is one of these every week or two. WTF? She looks like she can get male attention whenever she needs to, why go after a minor? If the roles are reversed the teacher gets Rape and hard time. She'll get second degree abuse of a minor and probation. WTF? The sad though here is that she'll get a harsher punishment for running away than she will for the crime.
/r/MGTOW14/06/18 06:56 PM
82

So he didn't do anything wrong but because he shared some of his views online that differed from other people in the office, which should have been private, he was fired. Who, exactly, was snooping on his system?
/r/MGTOW14/06/18 06:52 PM
1

Fucking A. Nice.
/r/MGTOW14/06/18 06:48 PM
5

I think that people are attracted to things that are logical, practical, and that just makes sense. MGTOW is all of that. It is absolutely logical, which means that if you agree to get married, for instance, you are consciously making an illogical choice. MGTOW informs a foundation for how to live your life so that if you make a conscious decision to deviate from it, you know you're making an illogical choice that you may have to pay a high price for. So yeah, people like things that make sense.…
/r/MGTOW14/06/18 06:46 PM
1

LOL.
/r/MGTOW14/06/18 06:35 PM
8

Yeah. If I say "feminist" what do you think of? Of late if someone says "MGTOW" people equate it with MRA and/or PUAs and Incels. Not much to do about it but keep on point about what differentiates MGTOW. And never apologize or be shamed. Good on you for responding the way you did but truly, I don't feel obligated to provide explainations either.
/r/MGTOW14/06/18 06:35 PM
3

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 09:02 PM
3

I'm sure that if you exit the divorce flush with cash, the kids, pets, and the house, alimony and child support, then yeah, it was a success. Not so much for the person that has to pay for it all.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 08:47 PM
1

Feminism is a movement. No thanks. Once there becomes organization around it and people use it for their own agenda, then it corrupts. Communism, Marxism, Feminism, what have you. I get what you're saying but I'm still reluctant to go there because then there's spokespeople and everything becomes political. It's better off as a lifestyle choice for men who don't want to conform to societal expectations. My opinion only. I get what you're saying but I personally resist calling it a movement.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 08:39 PM
1

Once it becomes an 'ism, it gets fucked up. It becomes an activist ideology that gets twisted and bent for ulterior purposes. It's better off staying as just a way of life for men who don't conform to what society expects of them, IMO.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 08:34 PM
8

Agreed. Be careful though. One word that really gets women wet is the word "No." LOL.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 04:54 PM
3

If that happened to me then I would do the same as him. How could any dude not feel that way?
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 04:51 PM
3

Fuck yeah. Way to go, dude.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 04:46 PM
3

He doesn't sound like he gets MGTOW that much. He referred to it as a movement. It's not. Also I just don't like his presentation so I stopped about 10 minutes in. Still interesting. Hope he brings more dudes to MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 04:45 PM
2

Fucking A. Nice, dude.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 04:22 PM
10

The early a woman has sex and the more partners she has can impact her current relationship. Saw a study, and not just for women, but the earlier you start having sex, the harder it is to stay loyal and in a long term relationship. The probability that she'll move on from her current 'partner' is high. The number of partners has less of an impact than how early she started having sex, but both matter.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 04:21 PM
2

The Donald Trump test is the best. LOL!!! I hate Trump but that is fucking awesome.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 04:17 PM
1

You are in your prime now. She was in her prime from 18-25 or so and had her fun, like you said. Why should you give up your fun time? Guys don't hit their prime until about 24 and stay there until 36-40. Maybe after that if you want to have a family - on you're own MGTOW terms, that is. I don't understand why women expect guys to give up their fun years when they get to have theirs, jumping from guy to guy. Doesn't make sense.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 04:15 PM
5

Run.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 04:03 PM
3

That is awesome.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 04:00 PM
6

I doubt any of the results refer to MGTOW and the MGTOW way of life.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 03:57 PM
2

Seems fake. If not, MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 03:56 PM
1

That was my thought too, but I've known women like this so......? Never know.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 03:51 PM
1

:)
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 03:51 PM
1

Well put.
/r/MGTOW12/06/18 11:20 PM
15

MGTOW should not have anything to do with sexual orientation. Pardon me if I'm using the wrong expression there, I'm not too familiar with the gay community. That said, I totally agree with you and personally would like to see your viewpoints on this sub. Best of luck.
/r/MGTOW12/06/18 11:19 PM
8

Plenty of MGTOW get pussy so you should have plenty of company there. MGTOW is about what choices you should make as a man in this society in order to achieve the best possible version of yourself. You sound like you're off to a great start and have your head on straight. Welcome to the sub, there is a lot of good info here. Listen to Richard Cooper that does a youtube channel called Entrepreneurs in Cars and read Rollo Tomasi's book on understanding the nature of women, something you referred t…
/r/MGTOW12/06/18 11:09 PM
1

What a horrible person. She just listed a bunch of reason for men to be MGTOW. The premise that female attention is the be-all-end-all is the ultimate prize because some betas are crying for pussy is the real kicker. She thinks that every man values her attention as much as betas do and therefore over-values herself. Yawn, this whole list has one goal, to be provocative, the whole comment about black dick makes it that transparent. My only wish is that this women gets exactly what she wishes for…
/r/MGTOW12/06/18 10:58 PM
6

Our world is not ready for the nuance that may be in the article. The world is too polarized. So when you say that it's ok to hate men, what you're really saying is that it's ok to hate based on identity group. Once you open that door, everything bad is able to come through. If you do that, then it's ok for people to be racists, for instance. As a feminist, she's now no better than the KKK because she supports hating someone based on their identity. This is stuff that we are supposed to be going…
/r/MGTOW12/06/18 08:34 PM
2

Holy fuck! Stalking, harassment, you name it. Time for a restraining order.
/r/MGTOW12/06/18 08:13 PM
1

Nice.
/r/MGTOW12/06/18 08:12 PM
1

Mailing the key is the best response. A return email has disaster written all over is, no pun intended. People rarely change. The problems that the relationship had will be there again should you try to go back. You deserve someone that treats you right. Don't look back, keep going forward. Thanks for sharing your story and good luck. I hope things work out. Also, in general, single moms can bring trouble financially, especially if you marry. The kids become your responsibility in a divorce. Sou…
/r/MGTOW12/06/18 08:11 PM
1

Ha!
/r/MGTOW12/06/18 08:02 PM
2

Not a big Milo fan but this was right on. If he did more of this and less of the 'shock value' stuff then he would not have gotten fired by Brightbart.
/r/MGTOW12/06/18 08:00 PM
24

She is rather presumptuous. Where does one get such a sense of entitlement?
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 10:38 PM
19

I'll pass.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 10:36 PM
3

How hard of a decision is this? Get the fuck out, and quick!
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 10:27 PM
1

Sorry that you had to go through that but so glad that you made yourself better for it. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Thanks for sharing your story and I hope life just keeps getting better and better for you.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 10:16 PM
4

There's no reason why one should turn down a good bj. Especially after saying that you're MGTOW. That's pretty awesome IMO.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 10:05 PM
3

Yeah, the whole "White Male Privilege" has got to go. Intersectional feminism is based on identity politics where white males are evil incarnate out in the world oppressing all other identity groups. Suffice it to say that as bad as white males are, they came up with a system of government, however imperfect, to allow for women and minorities to thrive so much that they are doing better than most men, and can be activists, can complain about everything, and still be in a country where someone fi…
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 10:00 PM
25

She clearly hates men. I thought she was supposed to be funny. That's not funny, that's just passive aggressive bullshit disguised as humor. Fuck her.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 09:48 PM
1

Why would that dumb-ass legislator make such a cuck, BP law? Idiot.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 09:44 PM
11

MGTOW is not about hate. There is hate and anger in this sub but MGTOW is about accepting society for the way it is, accepting female nature for what it is, and adjusting your life accordingly. Hate is not a requirement. So on one hand I agree with you, and on the other hand I'm worried about your premise that everyone MGTOW is a hater. That is something we need to change.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 09:36 PM
8

SMH
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 09:33 PM
19

Interesting, especially if that's true. Even if guys don't self identify as MGTOW, they seem to be unconsciously making MGTOW choices. Wonder how the culture will change in the US. I know in Japan things aren't going well and birth rates are way down.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 04:08 PM
2

Wow, that is truly slimy.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 04:02 PM
2

First one has already been taken down, it looks like. Still, clearly she believes what she said.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 03:57 PM
2

The arguments for marriage in today's first world societies is negligible. It's really around laying a solid foundation for kids to grow up in. Sadly, that foundation has been broken apart for men and legally propped up by the government for women. I'm speaking about the divorce process. The laws aren't gender specific, of course, but the system and how the laws are usually enforced are so biased and hyper-punitive toward men that it is no longer a logical or even mildly good choice for men. The…
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 03:54 PM
1

Technically, that's assault. But I like the idea of just tracking down the hubby and letting him know that the wife is a cheater.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 03:41 PM
1

Shallow, and a user. Using people is about the lowest thing you can do.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 03:36 PM
1

Good call. It doesn't mean you have to be alone. You could go back to the LTR thing but just not move in with anyone. Keep some distance but still have intimate relations when it suits you. But yeah, I feel you, bro. Time to chill and do what makes you happy. Thanks for your story and I hope that things work out for you and that you're able to move on from her quickly.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 03:34 PM
12

If you're willing to lie in order to get a boy to like you then it's not a stretch to assume that you'd lie to fuck over people you don't like or hate, or want to get revenge on. Clearly she was willing to sacrifice the lives to two people for essentially nothing. What if she decided to make it personal? Yikes.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 03:20 PM
1

LOL. Wasn't expecting that. That is good.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 03:14 PM
13

No longer can you work like a dog for others. More than 50% of marriages fail now, which means for most married guys they'll leave you anyway and take your hard earned cash and the kids with them. Not worth the risk. Work for yourself and have relationships and potentially kids on the side if you want kids. Fight for 50/50 custody so as to minimize child support. Of course, always get the paternity test first. Or just don't have a family. Sad times, but the American dream is dead for most men, i…
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 09:06 PM
4

This is my laugh for the day. I've never heard that one before!
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 08:56 PM
3

Love Red. Fucking great.
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 06:43 PM
2

They want to conflate every one of these groups and then vilify all of them. There's really nothing to do. Just be true to your own cause.
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 06:36 PM
4

Love it.
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 06:29 PM
27

No prison for her. I looked it up. She wants to be a surgeon. Yikes? Sounds like her next preferred weapon of choice will be a scalpel.
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 06:25 PM
11

Concentrate on graduating and having a good career with good prospects that you can always fall back on. Don't get married. Depending on your level of attractiveness you may find that your Social Market Value peaks at around 35-40, so you may attract younger women for quite some time; leverage that. So don't get stuck focusing on one person while you're young, you can take advantage of your situation with women for another decade and a half. If anyone is pressuring you to marry them, then they d…
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 06:12 PM
2

Fucking A. Amen to that.
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 05:46 PM
32

Ah, they blame porn.
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 05:45 PM
4

Yeah, feminism is a hate group. Of course they'll deny it, but there it is right there.
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 05:36 PM
5

This is why MGTOW rule number one is "Don't get married." Truly, nothing good will come from the inevitable divorce.
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 03:57 PM
6

Wow, major slap-down.
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 03:56 PM
1

LOL.
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 03:47 PM
3

Nailed it. Focus yourself for your own happiness and well being. Don't do it for anyone else.
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 03:46 PM
1

One thing might be to disconnect a little. Like you said, go out outside and don't let the cyber world intrude on you. Figure out a way to filter certain news events that are triggering your rage from reaching you. I know if what you went through happened to me, I'd be uber raged. Maybe talk to a counselor, a male counselor that understands male problems.
/r/MGTOW07/06/18 10:08 PM
1

If she truly loved you then she would never ask you to marry her, knowing what everyone already knows about how our laws are hyper-punitive toward men.
/r/MGTOW31/05/18 04:33 PM
2

Well, at least she does 15 months and has to register as a sex offender and is prohibited from working with kids again.
/r/MGTOW31/05/18 04:14 PM
1

Awesome story. Congrats, bro. Don't ever stop living life for yourself and nobody else.
/r/MGTOW31/05/18 04:07 PM
4

LOL. Before you seek legal advice maybe you start with a paternity test. WTF? What's more likely, that the procedure was unsuccessful or that your wife was getting railed by some dude? It's like at 45% chance that the wife was cheating an like a .001% chance that the vasectomy failed. Which do you think? Can anyone really be that naive/stupid? This is fake, it's fake, it's fake. Nobody is that stupid.
/r/MGTOW30/05/18 09:39 PM
5

“I wish I could go back and undo all that happened,” I'll bet. Still, one year? WTF. I don't care who you have to take care of. She should have thought about that before hand. It's not like if some dude used that excuse it would have mattered, they'd still give him the max. SHM. Extreme bias in our justice system, guys. Don't ever forget.
/r/MGTOW30/05/18 09:34 PM
11

Keep talking sports. It has nothing to do with her, her looks, her sexuality, whatever. If she wants to talk sports then she needs to go learn about it.
/r/MGTOW30/05/18 09:25 PM
2

Is this English as a second language? If not I would dump her. It barely makes any sense.
/r/MGTOW29/05/18 10:58 PM
1

True.
/r/MGTOW29/05/18 10:53 PM
1

Well put.
/r/MGTOW29/05/18 10:52 PM
2

Your premise is wrong. It is not about women and their nature, conscious or unconscious, it is about society and how it views men as a utility. You came close with your "use of existing social structures" statement, but it's not about the use of those social structures by women, although they absolutely do, it's the fact that those social structures exist in the first place. Yes, you'll see statements regarding women that are uncomplimentary because a lot of men have been burned by women who mak…
/r/MGTOW29/05/18 10:48 PM
6

WTF, they both should get life behind bars. They can think about their love from their prison cells.
/r/MGTOW29/05/18 09:28 PM
2

Well, this is fake. But it's a great story.
/r/MGTOW29/05/18 08:27 PM
3

Thanks for your service, and I agree with your statements around whomever can do the job and pass the tests, without any help, gets the job. As far as MGTOW not joining the military, that's my own personal MGTOW principal. As society depends on male disposability, I see joining the military as anti-MGTOW in principle. I think that if we got rid of the draft and had a military that was roughly 50/50 along gender lines, especially in combat positions, then I'd think differently. That won't happen …
/r/MGTOW29/05/18 08:02 PM
10

As long as it's equal opportunity and they don't play favorites in order to make any identity group pass more than they otherwise would then it's all good with me. Men wash out of these programs as well. Keep whomever can make it no matter their gender and fail the people who don't, or who resign. Another of my MGTOW rules is to never join the military. Society views males as disposable and the military is the biggest offender. I admire anyone who joins and serves, uncles, grandfathers, friends,…
/r/MGTOW29/05/18 05:02 PM
2

LOL.
/r/MGTOW29/05/18 04:50 PM
1

This was pretty good. LOL.
/r/MGTOW29/05/18 03:51 PM
4

That's too bad. Marriage should not be a requirement for a relationship. Anyone who demands marriage does not have your best interests in mind. If she loved you then she would never ask you to marry her.
/r/MGTOW29/05/18 03:44 PM
3

Sounds about right. Guys know better than to fall into the 'show me your emotions' bullcrap. That just ends in him becoming disrespected, resented, and then dumped. This woman is morally bankrupt, shallow, narcissistic, and basically a human piece of trash.
/r/MGTOW29/05/18 03:30 PM
1

So where is her 7 year prison sentence?
/r/MGTOW29/05/18 03:26 PM
7

That's sad.
/r/MGTOW25/05/18 05:10 PM
6

Right, that's another personal choice that you have to take individual responsibility for. What's that got to do with Patriarchy? Did Patriarchy make you do it? WTF.
/r/MGTOW25/05/18 05:08 PM
5

Wooohooo! Great job, dude.
/r/MGTOW25/05/18 04:30 PM
5

Females rarely validate White Knights with their approval anyway. They reserve that for high status males who don't care about their approval. So for White Knights, it's a lose/lose proposition anyway. The joke is on them for thinking that there is any benefit whatsoever for being a White Knight or nice guy. Their friends need to tell them to wake TF up.
/r/MGTOW25/05/18 04:30 PM
5

Yeah, this concept is the ultimate in 'blame all men.'
/r/MGTOW25/05/18 04:25 PM
2

Maybe she'll pop out a few kids and keep him around to help out until their old enough to be latchkey kids. Then she'll be bored, get the divorce, keep the kids, most of his money and the house, and then go back to men that are more exciting and that make her feel more desired, blah blah. Do they guy a favor and don't marry him. It's all a sham. Or at least tell him that you intend to use him and discard him and then let him make an informed decision.
/r/MGTOW25/05/18 04:24 PM
56

I can see how some comments in this sub come across as hateful toward women. I'd be lying if I said that there aren't some of us that are bitter because they've been burned in the past. That gets noticed more than the pragmatic, realistic, and logical choices that are the true basis of MGTOW, a lot of what you refer to here. Understanding female nature is not hate, it's just being realistic. Making choices to protect yourself is something that all people should be doing, it's just that choices t…
/r/MGTOW25/05/18 03:50 PM
26

Sounds like that guy needs to start reading this sub.
/r/MGTOW25/05/18 03:34 PM
8

That is what's interesting. They're spending bank money but blame outside influences for their own behavior. I'm waiting to see where personal responsibility kicks in.
/r/MGTOW25/05/18 03:33 PM
3

Damn. Aunt K sure knows how to work the system. She ain't alone either.
/r/MGTOW25/05/18 03:21 PM
1

LOL. Lot of people don't have much of a sense of humor.
/r/MGTOW25/05/18 03:01 PM
1

That's sad.
/r/MGTOW25/05/18 03:00 PM
4

As long as the play date is corroborated by your friend then it's just a lazy attempt at trying to make you look like a cheater too. Get away from crazy as fast as you can.
/r/MGTOW24/05/18 08:12 PM
27

Seems fake. Still, it may be a caricature of other more realistic scenarios but is still instructive of how things go for a lot of men.
/r/MGTOW24/05/18 08:07 PM
6

Great post. I know a guy with a big garden who is also interested in living off the land and being as self sufficient as possible. He got into canning and preserving. You might find that interesting as well.
/r/MGTOW24/05/18 06:30 PM
4

Was going to say the same thing but you beat me to it.
/r/MGTOW24/05/18 04:59 PM
2

Unknowingly is worse because he's being lied to in that he's being told that he is the real father. Both are bad. Mandatory paternity tests at birth should be the law.
/r/MGTOW24/05/18 03:54 PM
2

It's a real consideration. Have him freeze as much sperm as he can in the event he changes his mind about kids. But it's really the only reproductive choice a man has besides condoms.
/r/MGTOW24/05/18 03:48 PM
3

Sounds like everyone got what they needed. :)
/r/MGTOW24/05/18 03:01 PM
6

I love this. I'm glad that guy is doing this. If he wins under Title IX then this could go national and ALL colleges would have to comply in order to not be viewed as discriminatory.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 10:59 PM
3

This was my reaction too. I don't want to be harsh about it but it just seems like now that it is impacting women we're now being asked to care.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 10:26 PM
8

I gather that means that if it's a woman that is an alcoholic then society should help. If it's a man, meh.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 10:24 PM
2

Yeah, that line hit me too.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 09:13 PM
4

What struck me in the article was that there was an increase of ER visits for younger women as well. 24-35, I think.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 09:13 PM
7

Maybe those are the countries where they don't know that they need it.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 08:22 PM
13

Hope he doesn't discover her cheating on him and then goes into jealousy rage and, like, stab her with a butter knife or anything.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 08:18 PM
9

Anyone with such a binary world view will not be part of the future.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 08:16 PM
3

I find it interesting that the incel worldview is projected onto all men. Nice Jedi Mind Trick, because now she has a justification for hating ALL men instead of a small sliver of society, a handful of which went violent. Why not give yourself license to hate all men rather than just a few bad apples? And it will work too. There will be some simp who takes that up as a challenge and tries to prove to her how different he is and how he's such a nice guy. Then she'll use him and throw him away aft…
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 08:14 PM
10

Go for it but protect yourself. Escorts are cheap compared wives. A wife will eventually cost you half of all of your assets plus alimony for ever. An escort is nothing compared to that! LOL.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 05:59 PM
10

"Like a fish needs a bicycle" seems to be his motto too.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 05:53 PM
6

Women get offered dick every day of their life, or at least can get it if they want it. Why does she have to go after a minor? SMH
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 05:26 PM
3

It's ok to know what you want and have demands like that, as long as you're willing to go along with their demands. That's where things start to go off track.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 05:22 PM
3

If that really happened then that would be sad. It wouldn't surprise me though.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 05:16 PM
3

That's true.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 05:15 PM
2

Nobody but you can make you happy. Concentrate on yourself and your own needs for a while. Just put yourself first and start doing things that make you happy. Maybe some bucket list things that you always told yourself that you wanted to do but never got around too. Once all of the bullshit you've dealt with is in the rear view mirror a little bit then it won't look or feel so bad. Let's some time pass and again, focus on yourself.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 05:14 PM
53

So what's the penalty for making a false rape accusation? I didn't see that in the article, maybe I missed it. She should be prosecuted.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 05:08 PM
3

Awesome. Totally agree. Edit: I just worry that everyone thinks MGTOW hate women and that it's somehow a requirement for living the lifestyle - based on some of the comments you see on the sub. Hate is unhealthy and not necessary.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 04:56 PM
3

Fantastic story, bro. Congrats on all the progress you made and best of luck to you in the future. Thanks for sharing your story and inspiring others.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 04:53 PM
7

I hope she rots in hell. I don't care if she's a woman. How can any person be that demented and sadistic to another human being? Terrible.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 04:49 PM
1

If there was any doubt about how much feminists hate men, there's this. This statement is dripping with hate and is projecting an incel view of the world onto ALL men. SMH. These people are so toxic. Stay far away.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 04:43 PM
12

This. Live MGTOW because it's the right choice for you as a man. Great post. It's not about women, it's about being the person you want to be and putting yourself and your own needs first.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 04:39 PM
13

Great post. I wouldn't even say that MGTOW has a focus on women. At it's true core, it's about making the best choices that you can to mitigate risk in your own life as a man that society poses. Some of that has to do with women (don't get married or move in with women because that puts you at too much legal risk, but it doesn't mean you can't date them and have sex if you want to - just use protection, etc...), but other choices have to do with career, and other pursuits - nothing to do with wo…
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 04:33 PM
6

Sigh. SMH. I mean, yeah, raise good men, sure, but not as some SJW quest. Raise them to prioritize their own needs and to see through whatever BS they're going to encounter in the world, and to listen to their own voice over ALL others. Instead, his boys will only learn that they need to cater to the needs of others first and always put themselves second, which really means LAST! Cuz that's where nice guys end up. The problem here is that he REALLY thinks that he's doing them a favor in the way …
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 04:08 PM
1

"MGTOW has had an added benefit of really helping me appreciate men more." I agree. Amen to that, brother. When you look around and see people doing "dirty jobs" as Mike Rowe would say, it's almost always men. Take care of other men, even if they're not MGTOW. They need to know that there is a brotherhood out there that they can turn to when times are tough. Women will come and go in your life, brothers will always be there.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 04:01 PM
14

Nice ride. I love the big cab and four door version. Congrats!
/r/MGTOW22/05/18 10:44 PM
7

Pet sitting is more like 30 bucks a day. So $300.00 is more reasonable.
/r/MGTOW22/05/18 10:33 PM
2

Great post, and so true. GYOW and strive to be the best version of yourself that you can because nobody else will ever give two fucks about you. Put yourself and your happiness first.
/r/MGTOW22/05/18 10:31 PM
4

It's one thing to cheat on somebody but you have to be some kind of fucked up, demented and sadistic piece of trash to wipe someone's face in it.
/r/MGTOW22/05/18 10:29 PM
35

It's a factual description of MGTOW. Not sure what a down vote would represent. The fact that it's true or that they don't like that it's true?
/r/MGTOW22/05/18 10:25 PM
1

If that's true then that's a great story.
/r/MGTOW22/05/18 03:24 PM
4

Thick as pig shit? I've never heard that one but I like it. Is pig shit thick? LOL.
/r/MGTOW22/05/18 02:53 PM
2

Wow. Just, Wow. Well, from now on, don't be a cuck and put up with that sh**. Actually, you may have gotten off lucky. She's going down the toilet. At least she's not taking you with her. Don't ever answer her phone calls or texts again.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/18 09:32 PM
12

It's an RP and MGTOW thing. Don't ever adopt or spend money on another man's child. That's his job. In doing so you usually have to agree to marriage which is just another legal way for you to be financially raped. It's not that you can't love the child while you're dating the mom if that's what you want to do. You just have to make sure that they don't live with you and that you never marry the mom. Otherwise, society says that they both become your responsibility during a divorce proceeding. M…
/r/TheRedPill21/05/18 09:22 PM
1

Great to hear. Thanks for sharing and inspiring the rest of us.
/r/MGTOW21/05/18 08:04 PM
1

Well, someone forgot to send this guy the memo.
/r/MGTOW21/05/18 07:57 PM
2

Yeah, fun stuff. It's been years. I should re-read those old books.
/r/MGTOW21/05/18 05:21 PM
1

So true.
/r/MGTOW21/05/18 04:55 PM
2

You're probably right, which is sad. I think that divorce would be better for him though.
/r/MGTOW21/05/18 04:53 PM
6

Interestingly enough, the word "no" gets women off. It becomes a challenge. Maybe not her, but either way, it's good that you threw it back in her face. For her to assume that you're her beta bitch was wrong on her part. Good on you for setting her straight. She was the one that was rude.
/r/MGTOW21/05/18 04:45 PM
10

Nice guys finish last. Too bad it took him 40 years to learn that all of that performative White Knight crap won't get you a woman. That's not what they want. That's a long time to get RP'd. Sad.
/r/MGTOW21/05/18 04:17 PM
16

I love this.
/r/MGTOW21/05/18 04:14 PM
7

My thought as well. It sounds like he can't even get it up for her now. I'm predicting divorce.
/r/MGTOW21/05/18 04:12 PM
1

Right, but the end result is the same. The inevitable breakup because after they start cheating, not even compliments, gifts, dinner, what have you from a beta nerd is enough to overcome her disrespect for him. So she ends it anyway. Why not just cut to the chase?
/r/MGTOW18/05/18 08:41 PM
2

That's a good bet. I wouldn't bet against you.
/r/MGTOW18/05/18 06:05 PM
3

I don't understand why these women don't do their boyfriends a favor and just break up with them rather than cheating on them. Once the cheating starts, they all inevitably end up resenting and disrespecting the nice guy bf anyway and then break up with him. Why not just let him get the fuck out rather than torturing him?
/r/MGTOW18/05/18 04:29 PM
12

Crazy ass bitch. I hope they max out the sentence.
/r/MGTOW18/05/18 04:22 PM
3

Great story, bro. Good on you! Thanks for sharing your story, it will help and inspire others who read it. Best of luck to you. Don't ever stop reaching for new heights and don't let anyone try to get in your way or drag you down with negativity.
/r/MGTOW18/05/18 03:39 PM
1

WTF?
/r/MGTOW18/05/18 03:27 PM
1

Those are monks and they have their reasons. Terrified? Of what exactly do you think they're terrified of?
/r/MGTOW18/05/18 03:11 PM
2

Margot Robbie Nice choice. Very pretty.
/r/MGTOW17/05/18 09:07 PM
1

LOL. Awesome.
/r/MGTOW17/05/18 09:05 PM
5

"Do you honestly believe all women since the dawn of human existence have been absolutely evil devilish creatures as you see them today? " You're question shows your ignorance. MGTOW is not about men in relation to women, it's about men in relation to society, it's laws, and how those laws are enforced, all to the detriment of men. It really has nothing to do with women. It always helps to understand female nature, but that alone is not the reason for MGTOW. MGTOW is about mitigating risk(s) tha…
/r/MGTOW17/05/18 09:04 PM
19

If they are married and she's in the house then it doesn't matter that he is paying the mortgage. It becomes community property and she can still rape him financially through divorce. He's better off not marrying her in that case. The only thing I can think of is that he's been lying to her about the marriage and never intended to marry her. If that is the case then he shouldn't have offered her a room for rent either. Actually, it hard to understand his actions, TBH.
/r/MGTOW17/05/18 02:59 PM
3

Great advice.
/r/MGTOW17/05/18 02:47 PM
1

Support your dad however you can with what he is going through. And if anyone in your life wants to marry you, remember your dad with the dark circles around his eyes and the turmoil that he is going through, and promise yourself that will never be you.
/r/MGTOW17/05/18 02:46 PM
2

Why wouldn't she help him through school so that he can realize whatever his dreams are, like he did for her?
/r/MGTOW17/05/18 02:40 PM
4

Wow. I've never heard of this guy. I guess every guy since 1971 has just wanted to drink the cool-aid, mostly.
/r/MGTOW17/05/18 02:39 PM
3

Whose face would you order?
/r/MGTOW17/05/18 02:33 PM
0

Terrible. No parent should out-live their child. What a nightmare.
/r/MGTOW17/05/18 02:30 PM
1

LOL.
/r/MGTOW17/05/18 02:27 PM
3

Do what you're doing. Move on, concentrate on bettering yourself every day. Pursue what makes you happy and be the best you can be at it. Tons of fish in the sea. Enjoy the spice of life and deal with relationships on your own terms.
/r/MGTOW16/05/18 09:32 PM
10

Great post.
/r/MGTOW16/05/18 09:27 PM
36

The sad part is that his friends will think that it couldn't possibly happen to them because their relationship is better somehow, and they won't learn from his mistakes.
/r/MGTOW16/05/18 05:20 PM
5

If you love and care for yourself first and foremost, then the question becomes, who is deserving enough of you? If we're all striving to make ourselves better than we were yesterday, then it's fair to ask anyone else just what they're bringing to the table besides just existing.
/r/MGTOW16/05/18 05:18 PM
26

Your answer is better than saying "no" and that you're MGTOW. Nobody needs to know but you. Good job, bro.
/r/MGTOW16/05/18 04:18 PM
7

You are the only person you ever need. Concentrate on growing and becoming the best version of yourself possible, attain your own personal success and happiness. Strive for excellence in whatever you choose to do. Only let people into your life that deserve it and that are a positive influence for you, your goals and aspirations. Great to hear your story and thank you for sharing it with all of us.
/r/MGTOW16/05/18 04:11 PM
2

But it won't be him! As far as he's concerned, bullet dodged.
/r/MGTOW16/05/18 04:07 PM
9

She'll probably want to bang you more now. Lot of women get turned on by the word "no." LOL.
/r/MGTOW16/05/18 04:05 PM
8

Sorry man. Dogs are family. Best companion a guy could have. Take time to grieve but don't wait too long in getting another one. You'll likely save his/her life if it's a shelter dog, and they'll save yours in many ways as well.
/r/MGTOW16/05/18 04:03 PM
3

Great post. Nailed it.
/r/MGTOW16/05/18 03:53 PM
2

You can date one or many women and still be MGTOW. Just don't marry anyone or live with them, or put yourself at legal risk with them. Don't get them pregnant. Just have the relationship on your own terms.
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 09:55 PM
12

Hell yeah, get a good lawyer. Divorces are brutal and very expensive. She's going to go for your throat, financially. Pay top dollar for a good lawyer, that will save you lots of $$ down the road. You have to play hard ball and defend yourself and your assets. It's just starting and it will get real ugly real quick. She may even resort to saying that you beat her during the whole time you were together. This presents her as even more of a victim to the court. So save all of your text messages an…
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 09:41 PM
2

Donate sperm. Hell you could have 30+ kids out there and not have to pay for any of them. You won't have a relationship with them but you'll be a modern day Genghis Khan! LOL. If you want to have a relationship with the kid that do C. Have a relationship with someone who thinks that they can trap into marriage with a kid. Support the pregnancy but keep your own place, never move in with mom, and just send child support. Use the child support as a leverage point to gain as much custody as possibl…
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 09:09 PM
14

She keeps beating him then that's what he'll learn and start beating other people in his life. What a mess.
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 09:03 PM
3

MGTOW is not really anti-women, it's anti - How Society Disadvantages Men through its Laws and Enforcement of those Laws. MGTOW is more about understanding the risks that society poses to men and how men should lead their lives in order to mitigate those risks in a logical, thoughtful, and pragmatic matter. Not sure what generalizing you're referring to. You might be an exception but female behavior can be generalized just like women generalize male behavior. Rollo Tomassi does a good job of thi…
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 06:05 PM
3

Nice to see that MGTOW is seen as a pragmatic and thoughtful choice by this author and not just a segment of society that should be shamed. The good guy group is the most interesting. He says that they need to be constantly vigilant because women are more likely to disrespect and cheat on them. I would imagine that after a few of those experiences more of them just become MGTOW, hopefully before they get into any legally binding marriage agreements.
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 05:34 PM
1

Marriage hasn't worked for a long time, if ever. More than 50% fail and most people that stay in them are miserable. Some actually do work when two people are completely devoted to each other, but that is such a rarity that nobody in their right mind should be betting their future, money, house, cars, and overall livelihood on that slim possibility. If you need to, you can still have relationships with people without marriage or living together. In fact, if someone REALLY loved you and had your …
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 03:52 PM
1

You're doing the right thing. Good on you, bro.
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 03:47 PM
1

LOL.
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 03:38 PM
2

I agree.
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 03:38 PM
1

I love this idea.
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 03:36 PM
1

Clementine Ford said in April she had 'addressed the intention behind these statements numerous times'. 'If we lived in a world where women were murdering men en masse and men genuinely had reason to fear they might be murdered in their beds by a gang of marauding feminists, I would agree with your concern,' she told Daily Mail Australia on Monday. 'As it is is, we live in a world where it's women who are being murdered by men at a minimum rate of one a week in this country, not to mention the c…
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 03:07 PM
1

It's not about women at all, it's about how society treats men. That dictates how men live in relation to women, but it's not about them at all, actually. Your question actually shows your complete misunderstanding of MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 09:15 PM
1

Good on you, bro.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 09:13 PM
2

Research it.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 09:10 PM
3

Even if you have a fight with someone you care about, you don't wish for their death. Are you insane? Please leave this sub.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 09:09 PM
18

When they're stripped of their money, retirement, house, cars, and kids, then they'll get it.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 09:04 PM
3

LOL. Yep.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 08:51 PM
3

Great point, actually.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 08:51 PM
1

Yeah, like I said, he seems like he still wants to make it work. Most guys would jet after the first mention of an open marriage. I know I would.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 08:50 PM
8

Oh, they know it, they just can't admit it to themselves, IMO.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 08:49 PM
80

Men have always known this. No study needed.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 05:42 PM
2

I think we're more like the apes: https://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/05/the-missing-men-in-your-family-tree/ The same holds true for humans. In the industrial era there was a time where one man, one woman was fairly common, but now, in societies where women exercise the most freedom, they choose the same top tier of men. In some Scandinavian countries where women experience the most equality, they choose to only mate with the same population of men. Now, in some of these countries, up …
/r/TheRedPill14/05/18 04:58 PM
6

This sucks. I love sex but it seems like the only answer is to go MGTOW-Monk.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/18 04:46 PM
3

I agree. The thing is, for whatever reason, whenever I've broken it off with a woman, the more they wanted me and the more they put out trying to get me back. If they can't have it, then they try harder to get it. Whatever. I hate games.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 04:37 PM
13

Yawn......uhm, no.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 04:25 PM
26

Agree.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 04:12 PM
5

Well, that's what I would have done but he seems to still want her, so I'm thinking he'll want to give it one last try. I would never have agreed to it and would have divorced if she insisted on it.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 04:12 PM
59

He needs to tell her that the open marriage is not working for him. If she refuses to change then they need to divorce right away and he needs to move on.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 03:54 PM
1

LOL. Ok.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 03:52 PM
6

It takes two to be in a relationship. If the man is not feeling it then it's probably because he doesn't think she's worth it. So she should start with herself and think about what she is/isn't bringing to the relationship.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 03:33 PM
1

......jumps off of balcony.
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 03:29 PM
1

Love that.
/r/MGTOW10/05/18 05:51 PM
1

That is the best response ever. Good on you, bro.
/r/MGTOW10/05/18 05:49 PM
1

It is just acceptance of fact. Evil is not gendered.
/r/MGTOW10/05/18 05:47 PM
3

"Unlike "Evil Empire" from Star Wars, it will be benevolent to both women and men." Dream on. Women are just as corrupt, manipulative, greedy, and power hungry as men. They have all the same flaws as any other human.
/r/MGTOW09/05/18 07:43 PM
3

What I find interesting is that divorce is not ever mentioned. She clearly wants to secure another man before jumping ship. She detests and resents her husband but still stays - so I guess he's good for something. SMH
/r/MGTOW09/05/18 03:57 PM
2

That's brutal. There is hate in her heart. I hope she's unable to have kids, because her daughters would be fucked up too. I hope this is fake.
/r/MGTOW09/05/18 03:48 PM
20

It's good that you don't have hate. That's the level all MGTOW should be at. It's not about hate, it's about how you choose to live your life and who you want to deal with.
/r/MGTOW09/05/18 03:44 PM
7

Yeah, lot's of content off topic. I don't mind.
/r/MGTOW09/05/18 03:41 PM
6

It's the only way for a man to have complete ownership of his reproductive health, that's for sure. But it's not necessarily the right choice for all MGTOW. Some MGTOW may choose to father children even if they don't marry the mother or live with her. As long as you take full responsibility for your decisions, you're being MGTOW. That includes if you decide to be a father somehow.
/r/MGTOW08/05/18 10:09 PM
7

Fiction, but funny.
/r/MGTOW08/05/18 05:45 PM
5

It's not a movement, it's a personal choice on how to live and mitigate risk that society poses wherever you live. It's not something to shout from the mountaintop. It's very possible that you've met MGTOW and just didn't know it because MGTOW don't advertise that they are, which is how it should be.
/r/MGTOW08/05/18 03:44 PM
1

Interesting story. Thanks for sharing and it does give me something to think about. I was brought up the way you were when it comes to women but I understand that these days it is not worth getting involved in situations like that.
/r/MGTOW08/05/18 03:19 PM
8

I love women. I'm not MGTOW because I think that their lives should be miserable. That is childish. I'm MGTOW because of the way society treats men vs women, especially in its laws and how those laws are enforced. Men mostly get the shit end of the stick when the state gets in between a man and his family/woman. This means making smart decisions when it comes to women, like never marrying, living together, or taking care of another man's child, but it doesn't mean hating them or wishing them ill…
/r/MGTOW08/05/18 03:13 PM
1

Of course there is an endless line of cucks. That's the point of holding frame, or whatever you want to call it. Holding frame is the idea/recommendation of Not Being a Cuck. When you become one, you give away your person-hood for someone else, and that's always a bad road. It doesn't make you 'irreplaceable', I don't know where you're getting that idea, it makes you your own person and not some simp that will do anything for a pretty woman. It's not about the fact that other guys will do that f…
/r/MGTOW08/05/18 03:04 PM
15

MGTOW are not MGTOW because of women, but because of society and its laws. Sounds like she's ignorant.
/r/MGTOW07/05/18 10:49 PM
1

"she'll fire you and move on to the next candidate who will accept her terms." That's just it though, what man will accept her terms? The guy that will do whatever she wants because she has leverage? That's also the guy that she will get bored with and dump soon enough, and go back to a person who 'holds frame.' I get what you're saying but I think Rollo Tomasi's point was less about playing games and more about self-respect. Everyone has to have a threshold that they set for themselves about ho…
/r/MGTOW07/05/18 10:45 PM
6

I could never understand why a guy would pay for webcam porn. It is such an obvious scam; they're not even hiding it.
/r/MGTOW07/05/18 09:14 PM
2

No use defending yourself as a man if you're dealing with someone who states "All men............" Their idiots. You shouldn't give them the time of day. Just leave.
/r/MGTOW07/05/18 09:10 PM
1

Nailed it!!!
/r/MGTOW07/05/18 09:06 PM
2

Don't ever talk to them. That's the easiest. Let them find out what they need to know from someone else.
/r/MGTOW07/05/18 09:02 PM
4

"Women compete among themselves to be with best men while the average and below average men become completely invisible. This can cause resentment among the men and sometimes they give up on women completely." Sounds about right. "To better understand the competition between women and reluctance of men to form relationship with single mothers and women who were promiscuous in past, think of it this way- A Woman wouldn’t want to share her man with other women, for fear of his resources that are v…
/r/MGTOW07/05/18 09:01 PM
2

LOL.
/r/MGTOW07/05/18 08:42 PM
4

Was the husband high and in Vegas or something when he got married? Because I can see why he'd be 'platonic', with her and have something else on the side. She may think it's a closed relationship on his side but he'd better be getting some action somewhere else, and a divorce soon as well.
/r/MGTOW07/05/18 08:41 PM
1

LOL. True.
/r/MGTOW07/05/18 08:31 PM
1

She'd care if they got a divorce though, especially when the alimony runs out.
/r/MGTOW07/05/18 04:01 PM
5

LOL. The funniest part is that she actually believes her own bullshit.
/r/MGTOW07/05/18 03:52 PM
1

Looks like it's fake. Just a meme: https://me.me/i/jezebel-jezebel-follow-ive-never-felt-so-empowered-meet-the-18538129
/r/MGTOW04/05/18 08:51 PM
1

I'm definitely not associating with Giants fans.
/r/MGTOW04/05/18 06:59 PM
4

Yeah, if they make more money then when you get married, it's hers. If you make more money and get married, then, it's "ours."
/r/MGTOW04/05/18 06:44 PM
27

It's true, I've seen that site before. Think your marriage is going to beat those odds?
/r/MGTOW04/05/18 06:38 PM
6

That's great!
/r/MGTOW04/05/18 06:34 PM
1

LOL. I love it.
/r/MGTOW04/05/18 06:33 PM
5

This is definitely a HUGE issue that impacts primarily men. I'm all for making women serve the same time as men or for reducing sentences for men to the average that women get for the same crimes.
/r/MGTOW04/05/18 06:31 PM
1

LOL. Well, you knew this was coming.
/r/MGTOW04/05/18 06:11 PM
2

So only men should go to prison?
/r/MGTOW04/05/18 06:11 PM
10

It's ok to bang sluts if you want to. Just use protection and don't get into a LTR. But it's ok to have a little fun.
/r/MGTOW03/05/18 10:25 PM
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