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i'm a constant mystery.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 05:54 PM
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sensitive feminist men =/= ass-kissers. obviously, you have some straw men of your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 03:10 AM
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yes; it seems that we agree that a red piller and i wouldn't be a good match.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 03:07 AM
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i don't see that to be true in the posts on the TRP sub or opinions expressed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 03:02 AM
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i don't believe most men who read or post on TRP are attractive. i don't engage in casual sex, so i probably wouldn't sleep with an RP man either. if i did while he was pretending to be something he's not... oh well. a mistake, perhaps, but he was the liar; that's not on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 02:58 AM
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this seems unlikely given the information provided in the OP. and even if it were true, why would it be a secret? i don't need that kind of secrecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 02:51 AM
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i would appreciate such an honest answer (although you're completely mischaracterizing the beliefs associated with non-radical feminism). we wouldn't be compatible in our views, so if you left it at that, it would be fine. painful, perhaps, but for the best in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 02:50 AM
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i don't care if she's BP/claims to be or not; cheating is a reprehensible action.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 02:06 AM
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in any case, i'm not interested. if you read it or follow it, it makes no difference to me. i'm moving on either way. the views alone are enough to repel me, but according to your OP it sounds like you've also lied about your views to other people when asked, for appearances. nope, not what i'm looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 02:01 AM
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if you are red pill, you hold those views. if you are red pill, you view relationships as a transaction and/or a power struggle. i have room for neither in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 01:54 AM
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yup. next. absolutely not worth it. i have no interest in being with someone who views women and relationships that way, or the drama and stress they'll inevitably bring into my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 01:43 AM
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My question is why are we so bitter if our partner leaves us there are a range of reasons, but i'd guess that commonly it's a) the feeling of being rejected/left or b) no longer having someone in your life that you really cared for (if not both). so afraid that might happen that we have to change ourselves. this is why it's so often advised to make positive changes for yourself, and not other people. Its only a problem if you lose yourself during the relationship. meh, i think you can still feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 11:10 PM
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i don't care if that's true for all of the couples you know. that has no effect on me or my relationship. we discuss the possible outcomes of the decision, consider which would be best, and go with whatever that is. sometimes it's his solution, sometimes it's mine. there is no designated decision maker in this relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 04:01 PM
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well, it just keeps coming from a wider and wider range of you. if it's not in a public comment, it's in a PM. its not just select individuals anymore, it's most of the TRPers that come here, even those that used to engage in genuine discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 03:58 PM
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i don't disagree. it's dumb to tell people to get over something so gripping just to make others feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 03:54 PM
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haha. "hey girl. you know that anxiety and nervousness that you feel and have a really hard time controlling, overcoming, or explaining? well just throw that out the window. just stop feeling that way, right now. for his sake." this post is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 02:10 PM
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28/36. 27, F, non-pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 03:07 AM
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no, you're wrong. and stop saying 'dominanted'.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 03:00 AM
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correct; for many women, it doesn't. some things are just fantasy. the comments in here arguing otherwise are just a blend of ignorance and wishful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 12:07 AM
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i'd be curious at 30+, more so at 35+. i don't know that i'd consider him defective at any age, but i would get more curious and/or concerned as time went on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 12:01 AM
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it's fine if they don't care? not fine if it bothers them? some women don't mind, good for them. unless she's clearly in pain or terror, etc. i don't see why it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 10:11 PM
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SO cheating on me. we both lived lives before we met each other, and i did both of those things before we met so i don't have any reason to expect something different from him or be upset about it. however, cheating is a dealbreaker. unacceptable. 27, F, non.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:17 PM
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no one said it was something easy. it does take work, effort, trial and error. if you're just looking for whatever you can get with the least amount of difficulty or work put in, then surely the quality of what you end up with will reflect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:11 PM
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male oppression, obviously. even nature is in on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 04:45 PM
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first, you find someone that you aren't mutually incompatible with. this is the first step that doesn't get mentioned because it's kind of a given, but it's the most important because it greatly, if not completely, reduces the possibility of such a conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 03:43 PM
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yeah, my weight was questioned, and then there was some comment about being more than arnold's max lifting weight, or something. just wait, next they'll be digging up worms and putting them in my backpack (seriously, real grade A insults here guys).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:03 AM
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proves point of parent comment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 03:29 AM
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23 lbs. i really shrunk down this year. bonus: wrestling my stubborn cat is actually a challenge now. i don't even need to go to the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 02:31 AM
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most of the complaints that i see about dick pics are from guys who sent it right after saying hello and then flip out if they don't get pictures or compliments in return. completely unsolicited. pretty annoying if that's not what you're on a dating site for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 01:45 AM
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talk to a professional if you think you have a problem. reddit is not the place for real help.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 01:29 AM
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i doubt it'll change your mind... but i'm in a hierarchy-free relationship with a man i love. i have no interest in dating a superior or being dominated, and thankfully, i don't have to deal with someone who has such an absurd goal, to be with someone he can feel superior to. these relationships may not exist for you; you don't seem to believe in them and likely wouldn't accept them. however, they exist for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 01:28 AM
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well, i don't think casual sex is bad. it doesn't all have to be 'making love'. it can be fun without being so serious. but, plenty of people do still make love.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 07:18 PM
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not really. a radical feminist doing the same thing would be no better. it's foolish either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 04:42 PM
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seconding this. dark hair is a must. teeth don't have to be perfect, just not bad. somewhat decent skin is preferable too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 04:40 PM
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are the movies you enjoy also red pill? the books you pick up? the advertisements that catch your attention? even simple things like the way you choose to order food at a restaurant, as opposed to how everyone else does it? well, have i got a deal for you! you've taken this worldview too far, but it's not too late; act now, and at no cost to yourself, you can take a step back and bring some reality back into your life. please, for yourself and everyone around you, don't let this opportunity pass…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 02:47 PM
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good lord. why bother asking anyone anything if you're just going to make up your own idea of what their answer is? what a waste of time. you really need a different hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 05:24 AM
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my husband is about half a foot taller than me. i don't recall the heights of my exes, but most of them were a little taller than me. i dated one shorter guy and didn't care about his height, but he had a complex about it that made him insufferable to be around. i tend to like taller guys and guys tend to be taller than me, but it wouldn't bother me if a guy was short. i don't really meet many shorter men, but there are actors my height or so that i think are cute; it's not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 02:26 AM
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yeah, probably. i've never really thought about it but that makes sense. i wouldn't consider that what the red pill does though, to head that thought off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 01:30 AM
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yes. he's good looking, above average, but personality is also a major factor (and pretty tough to accurately guess from a picture). but, at first glance, he doesn't seem like someone i would have a problem with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 07:34 PM
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i don't need to read it again; i read it just fine the first time. you're claiming there are no options for these men to have sex when there absolutely are. desirable options? perfect options? the options of their dreams? perhaps not. but options nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 06:26 PM
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this too. i assume it's BenGunnSilver.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 05:41 PM
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bang/date, maybe? saying this at all feels weird; apologies, guy in picture. but, he's good-looking, and it seems he likes travel and recreation; seems like he's a nice enough guy. i don't know much about him so i can't absolutely say yes or no, but he would probably catch my attention online or out in public. i really couldn't tell whether or not i would marry someone based on a single picture though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 05:19 PM
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most times that i see it, it's a correction because someone is asserting that only women (or only men) have a particular negative trait or type of behavior. there's no point in continuing a discussion based on false information/assertions. it's not the same as your group at work unless those women actually are claiming that they, and only they, encounter problems that everyone goes through. this board is also frequented by a few trolls who have nothing better to do than try to stir up drama, tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 07:53 PM
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So, feminism seems to be about giving men consent to control a woman's body, and all this time I thought feminists wanted "agency". I guess what they really want is to be controlled. This is the red pill: what feminists REALLY want. is this really what you got from the quote in your OP? that's quite a stretch; surely, such creative thinking would be better applied elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 01:56 PM
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bookmarking this as another generally good/common piece of advice that gets presented as some kind of exclusively red pill way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 04:15 AM
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no one brought it up but you. it's always just TRPers claiming that everyone else wants them to LTR or marry someone promiscuous. no one says that, but for whatever reason, you made it up in your head and you're clinging to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 12:30 AM
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if they aren't having sex because the options available to them are simply undesirable, they are not involuntarily celibate. that is a very conscious, voluntary choice. that is a standard that they have set.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 12:27 AM
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no one cares if you LTR them or not, it just gets old hearing TRPers constantly whining about their existence and treating them as if they're committing some heinous crime by having casual sex as they please.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 04:45 PM
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there are male comedians who make the same jokes about women, so this isn't much of an argument. IME men say these things at a much higher frequency though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 01:33 PM
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do you understand that discussing personal views and opinions means thoughts and feelings that are specific to you will be discussed? how is this foreign to anyone who has spent even a limited time in this sub? this is pretty much your response in gif form; it doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 12:13 AM
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cool, so one comedian vs. a subreddit of TRPers... it's terrible regardless of the source but it's definitely concentrated in TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 12:05 AM
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whjy do bloops and women insist on making everything personal. we are discussing ideas and archetypes you expressed your opinion and they're asking questions about it, don't be so dramatic (or don't share your opinion if you can't handle someone asking you about it).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 07:22 PM
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lol, doing something to intentionally degrade someone is degrading lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 06:41 PM
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i don't know. i've definitely seen comments at TRP wanting specifically to perform degrading acts to women to take them down a notch if they've done something TRPers deem out of line (which, let's face it, is a pretty broad category). humiliation and degradation is most definitely the goal in those cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 06:16 PM
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it sounds like you're overreacting; she just says hello to you every time you run into each other at the same store. i could see her being a little too enthusiastic if maybe she's awkward with socializing? but calling her a stalker is an exaggeration. don't read too much into it unless you want to be the weird one. edit: i don't see this as being particularly masculine or feminine behavior; it just sounds like someone greeting enthusiastically.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 06:14 PM
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i didn't call it amused mastery; that was someone else. shame, that responding to such a comment would be so frowned upon for RPW though. oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 05:20 PM
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RPW don't stand up for themselves when faced with an obvious attempt to insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 05:12 PM
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if someone makes an approach like that (with the intent to insult) they aren't deserving of a polite response. don't be a dick if you don't want to be talked to like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 04:21 PM
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you're in denial, if you really can't believe the possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 07:03 PM
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Feminists, women, sluts, sjws are all one and the same to me. so ignorance, then. that was reason enough to anger me. wait, i thought you didn't get mad? i thought you were a mechanical being, completely void of all emotion (according to your many comments that insist so)? is that... did that change? did something happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 02:24 PM
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... but would a troll really admit to being a troll? come on now :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 02:22 PM
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what a dilemma. but it is all about men getting what they want so...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 02:19 PM
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normal things are baffling to someone attempting to appear superior or different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 02:16 PM
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they don't apply to this post but there are also actors i find attractive that are my height or a little shorter. does not make them less attractive; i couldn't care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 01:22 PM
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i almost changed my answer to include bardem... and wow, i didn't realize that actor (mads) was that good-looking...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 12:34 PM
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oh man, Jeffrey Dean Morgan... he always seems cuddly to me somehow. that grin...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:17 AM
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nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:09 AM
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heeeee. 46. i think this is a fairly timely picture; if i'm wrong, go watch birdman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 04:53 AM
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he's able to change existing science and the workings of human anatomy with his imagination alone. truly, a power that could be very profitable if wielded by someone with the sense to take advantage of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 04:14 AM
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i sure am. too bad it's not true when it comes to TRPers though. oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 04:12 AM
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aren't you glad he's considered an esteemed member of the community you subscribe to?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 12:33 AM
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unquestionably wow
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 09:45 PM
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so then we're in agreement, there's no reason for you to be here. cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:42 PM
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probably until we throw our hands up and praise TRP as the One True Way with the rest of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:30 PM
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no one's stopping you from going on your way. you don't consider the opinion of anyone not-red anyway, so it doesn't matter. just go already.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:29 PM
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how boring. you need a new trick. it's like you're not even trying anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 05:01 AM
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yeah, i sort of wondered if that was the case as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:41 PM
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whoever you are (i'm not asking)... no one would even know you were connected to this if you didn't just bring it up (ffs). it's pretty rich for you to ask someone's name while complaining about being doxxed, also.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:29 PM
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at the risk of responding to a troll thread i will say... i'm sorry that happened; i know what it's like to feel worried and afraid that someone is going to hurt you or otherwise betray you (something i've fought for a long time, and still occasionally struggle with). but, i think maybe you should step back from reddit and/or anything pill-related if it's having such an effect on your life (and even find someone to talk to about it, if these fears have really taken hold). i won't defend TRP; i a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:11 PM
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My wife is a primary school teacher, and has a red flair. so that's why you're having such a fit over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 02:13 PM
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oh man. you really need a creative outlet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 08:58 PM
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nah, the thoughts of other people definitely do matter here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:28 PM
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i don't mind legalizing prostitution as long as it's done properly. i think abstinence-only sex-ed fails more because of simple curiosity than a desperate 'need' for sex though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 07:41 AM
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but are you really a different person? did it really change your entire life, forever, in a major way? it may for a few. but for most people, it doesn't. they are ultimately still the same people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 06:30 AM
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that's fine, but you were specifically talking about the legality of such things so...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 06:25 AM
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i'm not discriminating against them for their political views; i'm determining whether or not they're a good teacher for my child depending on their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 06:24 AM
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exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:29 AM
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we're not talking about employers hiring or firing people; we're talking about a parent's concern about the experience and ability of a teacher. not the teacher's boss, a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 02:53 AM
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i already said that even other extreme views would raise my concern. it's not better at the other end of the extreme. your comment isn't clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 02:48 AM
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a parent being concerned about her teaching abilities because of her age is not the same as an employer denying her employment that she's eligible for based on her age; don't be ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 02:14 AM
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if you consider my bias being aware that they follow an ideology or hold beliefs that could be potentially harmful to my child, then sure, it's a bias. it's not unfounded and absolutely could affect how he teaches his class (the class including my child). i'm going to make damn sure he's doing his job if i have even the smallest reason to doubt that's the case; i'm just watching out for my kid. if you hold such extreme views about men and women, i don't think it's possible to keep that from slip…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:56 AM
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ah, that sounds so great; i would definitely want to do that if i were a parent. i can't imagine not being involved in something as important as their education, especially when they're really young. kudos to those parents, and for you for being open to that communication/interaction :) .
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:53 AM
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i wouldn't interrupt or ask questions; there's no need to interrupt class when i can talk with the teacher afterwards. i wouldn't intentionally disrupt class when i'm trying to make sure my children are in a positive and productive learning environment. and yes, making sure your young children aren't learning something inappropriate for them is pretty important. it's the same reason games and movies have age limits, and why responsible parents don't just let their children run out on the streets…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 12:56 AM
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as far as i can tell, you said it was bigoted to remove my children from the teacher's class immediately without doing anything else or knowing anything more than his views outside of the classroom, which i already explained wasn't the case; i would observe the teaching environment on my own to determine how to proceed, and whether or not anything needed to be done to ensure my children were in a positive environment. this would also include a discussion with my children, to gauge how they felt …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 12:36 AM
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yeah, you got me, i'm literally hitler for caring about my child's surroundings and education. no teacher has ever imposed their views on children, or otherwise acted inappropriately in their dealings with students. really, i should just drop my kid off in grade school and pick them up again once they're 18. teachers are all trustworthy just because they're teachers, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 11:32 PM
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i specifically said that it was probably fine if they kept it to themselves and acted like a professional, so your outburst was completely unnecessary (and fuck you for that comparison). it's not a witch hunt to decide who does or doesn't teach my kids, and really doesn't affect the teacher at all. i have seen posts on MRP and red pill parenting where they talk about young children in a way that makes me really uncomfortable, however. so yes, i would need to observe the environment that my child…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 09:44 PM
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audit the class/meet with the teacher and speak to the school, if needed. i wouldn't like it, but if his views stay out of the classroom i suppose there's not much reason to disrupt my child's life. it's hard to say, though; at the same time, i don't think i would ever feel comfortable leaving my child in the care of someone with those views (as i doubt they could separate from those views for work so easily). it would be a difficult decision, to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 09:09 PM
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take this as confirmation, then. even with a good attentive partner, you can end up doing painful things while trying something new. if a guy is just jamming it in there haphazardly with regard only for himself, then yeah, it could be incredibly painful. i've had my cervix hit, i've had a too-rough partner, i've had sex when things were a little too dry. it hurts, sometimes a lot, and can even result in a lot of bleeding if you're not careful (a thing i learned the hard way). no sex is definitel…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 04:38 PM
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oh please, on Reddit alone, women are constantly torn apart by TRPers at the red pill (and likely other subs too). just the other day a whole bunch of you were talking about a) how a young teenage girl could make herself more fuckable to you or b) how she deserved to be bullied for being a cow, having bad skin, mediocre style, and so on (not to mention some of the comments that have been made about Hollywood actresses that are actually stunning). perhaps you've never considered these women worth…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 06:34 AM
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i wasn't talking about you alone, i specifically said the subs. obviously, they don't know better. they don't think they should be expected to take responsibility for any of their actions or act with any kind of manners or decency (to say the least).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 04:33 AM
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i have one sister. pill-free.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 04:04 AM
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please, there are constantly threads and comments in RP subs where you all talk about wanting to cheat, actually cheating, or that time you cheated. by the way you describe them, men are way way more likely to be cheating than women (and it's totally excusable because, reasons). what a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:49 PM
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search for the old threads. you'll find tons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:38 PM
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if you don't find the answers you've already gotten about this acceptable, there is no answer outside of 'all hail TRP' that would please you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:12 PM
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ain't it grand? haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:10 PM
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part of me wonders if we've ever run into each other. ah, the magic of internet anonymity. haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:06 PM
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i wonder how many times this question will be asked, and answered. if there ever is a guide with common subjects... this should most definitely be included.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:17 PM
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i should have had a stopwatch handy to see how long it would take TRPers to make this thread all about them. but, i guess it wouldn't matter. the only real answer is "no time at all."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:52 PM
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the one thing that i hate about my relationship, if hate is even the right word to use... i couldn't be without him, so there's no question or possibility of changing the situation. but, it hurts to even think about, so... to anyone: avoid a big age difference if you can. haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:00 PM
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it depends. what's it for? probably the one that will last longer unless you really like cereal or lattes. do you bake a lot? are you preparing a lot of food for the holidays? do you have roommates? children? a spouse? is this a trustworthy convenience store, or should you go to the actual grocery store? lots of important questions to ask before making this decision. i see what you're getting at, but people aren't milk or comparable to it in any way so this is pretty absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 09:41 PM
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i haven't been there in a while but as i recall, /r/creepypms is full of reports of people that get upset just because they don't get a 'hello' or anything in return from someone they believe they were being nice to. can you imagine the hissy fit if that person was nice for an extended period of time in the hopes of securing some sort of end result, and didn't get sex or a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 09:21 PM
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i agree that giving up immediately is a bad idea... but making a partner jealous as a last resort to save your relationship is like endlessly trying to revive someone who has flatlined. if you have to resort to that, it's probably already over or soon will be. it's more difficult to part ways if that happens in a marriage, of course, but cutting ties is probably the better option if it's gotten that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:48 PM
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i don't think i've ever experienced that kind of alienation. honestly, it sounds like she was either really rude or really struggling with communication, more than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:42 PM
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nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 12:01 AM
1

no, it's just childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 11:59 PM
9

welp, off to tell that guy who thanked me for recommending medicine to him the other day that i don't, under any circumstances, plan to engage in physical intimacy with him. my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 11:04 PM
5

you could always just put it in your email signature. they'll get it, right? each. and. every. time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 11:00 PM
5

actually, a quick glance at your posting history shows that you went there specifically to argue (and that sub is not the place). i didn't read your thread on this sub, but if you acted like someone they wouldn't want in the sub, then it makes sense that you would be banned from there. you've already admitted you're using a throwaway and your name is AlphaApologist; come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 10:53 PM
21

A man spending any time talking with a woman beyond necessities is clearly expressing interest. this is only true for a fraction of men; i think we've established that over the past few threads surrounding this subject. no one is going to take a normal everyday conversation or even hanging out together as a sole indicator of clear interest. that would be an absurd conclusion to leap to with so little evidence, which is why people don't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 10:27 PM
8

Men's burden is to be rejected, and to accept it. Men are brought up from an early age realizing that we'll be rejected most of the time. Rejection is a part of life for us. the assertion itself aside, you're advocating for this to be a bigger part of your life. you're seeking out this so-called burden. it's really not necessary to do so, nor is it socially graceful for a woman to shut down any man who says hello to her with, "Sorry, not interested, but thanks." it's weird, rude, and kind of pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 10:11 PM
6

depending on the situation... option 1 or 3. i've had friendships go both ways; in one case, the guy couldn't let go of how he felt (understandably, since those feelings are hard to just switch off) and in the end we just couldn't be friends, sadly. 1 is always preferable if the guy and i get along well, though. pretending to be interested in him is cruel, and is only going to make things worse. i think not acknowledging someone can also be rude or hurtful depending on how it's executed, but som…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 10:04 PM
2

same, same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 09:55 PM
1

OK. Good for you, then. indeed :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 09:15 PM
3

there it is. i was wondering when this would show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 09:13 PM
6

you know... it's obvious whether or not someone is genuinely interested in another person or not. if that's your only goal and you genuinely don't care about anything else except getting laid now now now, then you might not want to waste anyone's time (and probably shouldn't even bother with a date at all if ONS is the only goal).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 06:55 PM
6

ding ding ding. this. absolutely. and even if the situation came up where the guy just wanted to share something with me that he was really really into that i didn't care for (like most sports) i'd still be interested, because it meant so much to him and someone i was attracted to wanted to share that with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 06:36 PM
2

if you want to have a discussion, actually invite it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:52 PM
4

or, it's that nothing in the OP seems to be genuinely seeking input or opinions. why waste time on it? everyone knows how threads like this go/end. there's nothing in the OP that suggests to me that any 'real' discussion is being sought (and the countless removed comments from RPers in here already just add to that feeling). i'm probably not the only one thinking that, so i wouldn't expect much from an OP/question presented like that. edit: and, there we go. not even 10 minutes later, and i'm do…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:28 PM
3

definitely not the experience of tons and tons of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 02:20 PM
6

I'm afraid, it seems, that you simply aren't capable of understanding TRP because you're not a man. You also may not be self reflective enough to own up for all the issues of your gender. lol TRP is not mysterious or infallible; people who understand it still dislike it and find holes in it. no one person is responsible for their entire gender, don't be ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 06:09 AM
2

yeah, that also started to seem odd to me too. doing so would be a waste of time for both parties, if it's just casual sex (though someone else referred to drinking and partying being the date, which would be different than say, a nice dinner so... who knows).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 01:53 AM
4

not everyone wants an RP man. RP men are not considered high value to everyone, nor are they willing to offer what some women are seeking. this needs to be kept in mind for any discussion here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:27 PM
5

it seems like these are only rules for RP men, who only want ONS anyway (and aren't the aim of many women here).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:24 PM
8

because you're equating being comfortable with someone and wanting to spend one-on-one time with them as wanting sex with them. they aren't the same thing. you can want to hang out with someone alone without it leading to sex. both men and women are capable of this, and some even aim for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:02 PM
10

i am so glad i never adhered to this 'rule'. i would never have gotten to personally know anyone i dated nearly as much as i wanted to. talk about treating men like some kind of untamed beasts with no self-control or ability to handle a simple 'no', sheesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:00 PM
6

I'm comfortable with you now. I am interested in sex with you now. I want to be alone with you now. these are three different statements. going back to a guy's place does not necessarily mean all of them, but probably means at least one of them. these messages can be cleared up pretty easily if there's any confusion, so i'm still seeing this as a non-problem in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:55 PM
1

oh, i'm in total agreement with you regarding that; i was just saying that at least a good portion of people in this thread aren't thinking of a nice date as partying and drinking all night, so there's a disconnect in what's actually being discussed (possibly preventing some understanding, at least between people who are actually trying to discuss genuinely).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:53 PM
2

i wouldn't consider a date a night of drinking and partying, though, especially if you meet the person while drinking and partying. so, that's probably another reason for the divide in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:37 PM
6

Going back to a man's place after a date, then rebuffing his advances without clearly telling him what 's up or why IS leading a man on and deceiving him. if she's rebuffing his advances, that is clear. that is saying what's up. that in itself is a pretty clear sign; it says, 'i don't want to do this.' would elaboration be nice? sure, i don't disagree with that. but going to his place and then choosing not to have sex isn't automatically leading someone on or tricking them, no matter how disappo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:26 PM
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oh, don't be dramatic. it's not leading someone on to not immediately jump into bed with them. you can be attracted to them, and want them, and not sleep with them on the first date. in fact, i'd say most people who are actually trying to invest time into a potential relationship will wait because the connection is more meaningful. ONS are easy; you can get those anytime and they mean essentially nothing, so there's no need for either person on the date to jump into sex right away if they don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:07 PM
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because people are worth more than just sex to another person. you can wait a little while without having to wait forever; not everyone wants to jump in the sack right away. he won't die without sex for one night, and if that's all he wanted, he can make that clear (though one might argue that he was wasting her time by even going on a date, if all he wanted was an ONS).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:42 PM
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if she doesn't want to have sex with him and also doesn't want to deal with having to tell him that, then yeah, she'd probably save both of them a lot of trouble by just not going back. it's possible to want to spend more time with your date without having sex, though, and i don't necessarily think it's wrong for her to go back to his place if she does just want to hang out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:24 PM
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i think the problem is the use of the word consent. i can understand that a guy might have some expectations, decide to go hang out at his place, and consent to nothing beyond spending more time together. consenting to something and being aware of it are two different things, and really, it doesn't matter what he thinks or hopes i agreed to; it matters what i actually agreed to. unless stated otherwise, i did not consent to anything but continuing to hang out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:13 PM
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well, that's not good enough. he's free to think or hope whatever he wants, but unless he actually confirms it, he doesn't know. he is responsible for actually confirming consent before proceeding, not just guessing (and of course, accepting a no if he's denied). the same is true for women with men, and yes, people should speak up if something they don't consent to is taking place (assuming this isn't a situation where anyone is actually in danger). IMO, hoping and guessing is not enough when it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 09:06 PM
8

and i'm saying, so what? yes, people should be aware that their date may have hopes or expectations of they go back to their place. this is obvious. there is no obligation to fulfill those hopes or expectations though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 08:49 PM
4

"Yay, time to go to his place and get free snacks from his fridge!" it would honestly surprise me if this was something that happened commonly on (early) dates, especially if you already went out to eat. you may want to reconsider your date, if so. it's possible (and probably wise) for a woman to be aware that a man may want to have sex if they go back to his place, but i don't even know that i would consider going implied consent. even if it was, as /u/Wolfsouls says, it can be revoked at any t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:35 PM
1

assuming i'm single in this hypothetical... secretly have sex with a gorgeous celebrity of your choice and no one will ever find out or have everyone think you had sex with said gorgeous celebrity even though you didn’t and never will? a. have sex with two 7s or have sex with one 10? (In b4 'There's no such thing as a 10', substitute 'That Girl', you know the one, the person you've always really wanted to bang.) a... ? i don't really rank people that way; i'm either attracted to them or i'm not,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 03:55 PM
1

just in case... super nsfw.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 12:14 AM
7

"a report shows that something is decreasing, so that means it doesn't exist at all anymore!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 12:03 AM
6

everyone has goals; if that's what she wants and she gets it... congrats. sounds like she earned it. i'd hope she researched the risks etc. beforehand, but aside from that, sounds fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 11:59 PM
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i mentioned the other conversation i had in this thread to my husband... we had a good laugh. in all honesty... i hope you find the way forward that works for you and your husband; i'm sorry you're going through this and you've been incredibly patient with everyone here (a hell of a lot more patient than i would have been). best wishes, on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 07:55 PM
1

You're not sharing opinions. You're lecturing me with a weird mixture of superior attitude and foot-stomping indignation. ah, so you can tell other people what to do, and tell them how their relationships will go with little to no context, but if anyone disagrees with you, they're the ones trying to lecture and appear superior. okay. a tip: while the lack of shouting and hostility is progress/appreciated, saying the same things in a calm manner doesn't make them any more acceptable. the content …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:25 PM
1

You're projecting like a Kodak. hey, we're all just sharing opinions here, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:18 PM
1

but it's not just the OP that you're saying this to. you're saying this to every woman who explains that they're in a happy relationship that doesn't involve deference. i really don't get why the idea that some people are happy in non-RP relationships is so hard to grasp. if that's the case, if you really can't imagine anything non-RP working in life, you're probably too deep into it and should try taking a step back. it sounds like the RPers who have reached the point where they're trying to de…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:05 PM
-1

can you stop telling other people to get divorced, or trying to convince them that their relationships are/will be failures? it doesn't seem to serve any true purpose, other than to make yourself seem superior or more knowledgeable about a relationship that you aren't a part of and know nothing about. the people who are saying they don't defer don't want to be in an RP relationship, so explaining that the lack of deference doesn't work in a non-RP relationship changes nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:58 PM
1

if you make an 'all women' statement, then it follows that a woman who disagrees or doesn't match that statement will respond. men respond the same way to 'all men' statements; it's a normal human response/correction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:49 PM
1

i never claimed we were special snowflakes; i have no doubt there are tons of relationships out there that work the same way, some of which involve members on this very sub. you're claiming that human nature means there has to be a dom and a sub in a relationship, and i know that my relationship has no such system/hierarchy. you're free to have your opinion of what constitutes human nature, of course, but it doesn't match up with my personal experiences so i can't accept your opinion as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:35 AM
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that is your relationship, so i have no comment on whether that was right or wrong because only the two of you can know that. similarly, my relationship is something that i'm well familiar with, and can accurately describe and discuss. you can speculate all you want, but your relationship and experiences have no bearing on my own, no matter how long or successful your individual relationship has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:27 AM
1

that's nice; i'm glad you've had such a long relationship. something like that is not necessarily easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:19 AM
5

what a great way to say it. thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:18 AM
1

it won't, but i appreciate the kind wishes either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:11 AM
1

nope, not once. we talk everything over, and make our decisions together; it's easy, and our relationship is a blessing. in addition to being compatible, both of us have been in drama-filled relationships before where everything was a battle, and, we don't want that. we learned from that. we've been together for 6 years, married since mid-october.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:03 AM
4

The problem most Blues have with the notion of "respect" is that they believe if the man is the "dom", the leader of the relationship, the one who sets the frame and directs the course of the relationship, then the woman will be a subservient, crushed, walked-all-over doormat who will spend her life chained to a stove and be required to have sex on demand, even if she has a fever of 105 and projectile vomiting. i wonder where anyone gets that idea from... certainly not tons of posts on RP subs h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:51 AM
1

that never happens; we're compatible in our thoughts and values (we picked well). we'll either go with the way that has the best outcome (which could be provided by either of us) or we'll part ways if it's really that serious of a disagreement (but again, that is extremely unlikely). talking over outcomes and picking whichever one is the most beneficial one is completely different from being a partner who defers all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:49 AM
2

fair enough; i suppose that is a hard distinction to make. thanks for hearing me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:44 AM
4

Morpheus, along with a few other regular TRP members here, posts outlandish things just to attack and insult anyone who disagrees with him (rather than genuinely debate). those types of posts and comments are rarely made in the interest of actual discussion, and are created with the sole purpose of antagonizing 'the other side'. i've seen other posts removed for less, so i don't get why redditors who are known for making these kinds of posts are allowed to continue to do so. it's not a matter of…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 10:08 PM
5

i can't believe some of them are still allowed to do this (shitposting/trolling), repeatedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 07:51 PM
1

you're naive if you think men are good, but also, you're a terrible person for thinking all men are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 07:00 PM
1

nope! if that's what you truly desire, go do it and enjoy the hell out of it. there are plenty of men who respect women as individuals and the fellow human beings that they are, and celebrate their achievements as well; i don't think it's really that limiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 03:44 PM
2

actually, the OP asks Would you break up? so your comment didn't make sense. i don't even know why you would assume or suggest i would be a genderphobe but the reason is probably that you need to calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 03:12 PM
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i don't agree; my relationship doesn't involve deference or submission from one partner regularly, and it works better that way. i honestly don't know anyone in a relationship like that, but i know plenty of happy couples. so, i can't agree with that being the norm or the only 'natural' way to be in a relationship. i defer to my superiors at work, but i love my husband. i respect him, but i don't automatically defer to him just because. there's no need to; our relationship, and many others, work…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 03:03 PM
1

almost all the red responses in here say they would leave them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 02:40 PM
2

it's not a matter of being possible, it's a matter of being appealing to the individual who is overweight. oftentimes, in those situations, it isn't. you do understand, regardless of whether or not you approve.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 05:09 AM
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it's not hard at all to gain weight if you're depressed or severely unhappy (in which case, you also lack the desire to improve, because you feel hopeless). it's obviously not the only cause, but it's certainly one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 04:10 AM
5

engineering seems like a field that would require a lot of study and concentration, so i'm not really surprised this was the case if they were focusing hard on their studies (and were that type of person throughout high school as well). seems to me, their ultimate goal there was an engineering degree/job, and once achieved, they can move on to other areas of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 02:28 AM
2

i'd be surprised, to say the least, and wonder how that happened; neither of us have perfect bodies, but we watch what we eat fairly carefully. i would ask how or why it happened, or even consider visiting a doctor if needed. i'd be worried for their health and well-being. i would also be curious as to why he wouldn't want to lose the weight; to me, this goes back to a problem with his well-being. i can't see myself breaking up or leaving him over something so insignificant, though. that is abso…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 02:22 AM
2

i do keep stories of other tragedies in mind, especially with the frequent news stories of public shootings; why wouldn't i? it's not like i cower in a corner in tears thinking about it, boarding up my windows. it's not like i 100% think every man i talk to is absolutely going to assault me; most probably won't. i get that. if i ended up in a situation where one did, however, it could be the thing that kills me (or a loved one) so like other potential dangers and tragedies, i keep the possibilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:10 PM
1

perhaps i worded that incorrectly; i meant, i don't believe men are attacked for rejecting women at the same rate that women are attacked for rejecting men, nor do i think the level of danger in those situations is the same (given that both people are unarmed, anyway). given that this is the situation, it just seems like common sense for women to keep that possibility in mind, even with slim chances (given that it could be fatal should it happen).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:03 PM
-1

of course it does. TRPers are incapable of having a conversation without simultaneously trying to piss someone off, so the idea of having a normal discussion is completely foreign and uncomfortable to them. this is why no one can take most TRPers seriously, because they want to antagonize people more than they want to actually make a point or have a relevant discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 08:21 PM
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tons of men are not constantly fighting out on the streets with guns and knives, everywhere, all over, all the time. most people don't engage in combat on a daily basis, that's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 04:48 PM
1

except there are established members who make posts that are equally as absurd, just to troll the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 04:44 PM
4

uh, when it comes to trying not to die or get my loved ones killed, then yes, i am going to keep these stories in mind for any interactions where that outcome is possible. just as anyone is a potential rapist, anyone is a potential violent crazy person. you would do the same if exposed to the same risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 03:18 PM
5

this is definitely one of the most terrifying, to me. it makes me glad that my husband and i don't go out to places where we might be approached anyway; i couldn't bear the thought of something happening to him over something so insignificant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 10:13 PM
4

why do you even care at this point? your first comment was just trivializing problems that women face and contributing nothing to the thread, and now it just seems like you want to comment here to spite OP. let it go. i'm interested in seeing genuine responses to this thread, please don't ruin it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 09:20 PM
1

sometimes i think posts like this get left up just to have some sort of discussion going on (despite the OP content/subject being absolute shit). there have been posts that went that way in the past year too; blatant trolling/shit-stirring left up for... who knows what.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:51 AM
3

i crave a million dollars and a lifelong vacation, but, you don't always get what you want (particularly if it's unrealistic). deferential respect is earned, and most RP men don't appear to have done much to earn it. there really isn't anything romantic about deferential respect either, and it definitely doesn't exist in the relationships RP men claim they wish existed (which, they do exist). at least IMO... if you want deferential respect, get a management position.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 01:37 PM
3

if lots of people are saying that, it hardly seems 'special.' obviously, the guy just doesn't appeal to a lot of people here. no need to be bothered about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:18 AM
1

it seems to me that many of them are so afraid of being terrible partners that they've gone a long distance in the opposite direction (and even go so far as to believe anyone who doesn't do the same is a bad person)... but really, neither of those extremes are good regardless of how well-intentioned you might be. you need to take care of yourself, and some of them don't really seem to show much interest in anything but being subservient to a man because... reasons. it's probably not true for all…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:39 AM
2

yeah, i do like tom hardy. thankfully i didn't recognize him right away so i still had my gut reaction. i may have to look again, but i got the impression that he rolled out of bed at 3:00 pm and was still stumbling around or something. maybe it just looks too much like a frat boy YouTube video/prank still or something from a teen party movie to me, i don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 04:44 AM
2

Pic 1: - is that really him? he looks different. i remember him being skinny. that aside, not really into the undone/white shorts or surfer guy look. not attracted; while impressive, he has more muscle than 'my type' typically has. he's pretty and could model easily, but he's just not the type i'm into. not attracted. Pic 2: - he either has a sense of humor or an inflated ego. his body isn't particularly impressive, i guess, but i could see myself laughing if someone i was with did this as a jok…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 04:30 AM
1

ah i was a really lazy teen... except when i worked retail and could eat whatever i wanted thanks to the combo of always moving and being young. i work out now especially since i have a desk job... but it's definitely in part just so that i can indulge a little more at dinner. haha :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:44 AM
2

ah, those days... though i actually wear less makeup now. i do miss not dieting. oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:23 AM
4

er, plenty of men shave their facial hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 09:47 PM
3

i do, definitely. i have no interest in porn so i don't watch it. i don't think those two things are really that closely connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 09:27 PM
4

i think it's equating those things that's the problem. if you don't defer to him, you don't respect him. if you don't submit to him, your relationship isn't loving, according to RP. except... you can have a loving and respectful relationship without a hierarchy, and many do. it's pretty insulting to have someone tell you that you don't really love your partner because you don't see him as someone who is superior to you, or to be told that you aren't really a man because you don't have your woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 09:14 PM
3

(i) Which of the following age groups do you fit into? (18-25, 25-34, 34-44, 45-54, 55+) 25-34 (ii) How many times have you been approached by a man in the last week? 0 (iii) Roughly how many times have you been approached by a man in the last month? 0 (iv) Roughly how many times would you say you were approached by men in 2015? 1? maybe? (v) Are you single or attached? attached. (vi) Do you wish that more men would approach you, or less, or are you happy with the current number? i'm fine with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 04:16 PM
3

you do know that in some places the government is working hard to restrict access to abortion or legally make it nearly impossible for women, right? it's not an option for all women (and interestingly enough, the women who would probably need it most are the ones that have the hardest time getting access to that kind of care).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 02:53 PM
3

no, i think the premise/claim is ridiculous. my opinion on this has not changed in the last 534267 threads and comments about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:08 PM
3

what? i didn't say that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:06 PM
3

no, i just think it's absurd for you to be complaining about other people being uncivil. it's you i've lost empathy/sympathy for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 06:54 PM
7

implying people you disagree with are sluts during a debate is totally fine though. not at all uncivil.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 06:10 PM
7

:(
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 05:59 PM
8

Upon what empirical evidence have you based this conclusion? Did you perform a double-blind randomized study to reduce the risk of confirmation bias? yes, exactly. i thought that was obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 05:39 PM
5

i wish panera was delivering to my office today...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 05:39 PM
10

so, is bread supposed to be attractiveness, in this? if so, i don't think this really makes sense (although it may not make sense regardless of what bread is supposed to represent, honestly).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 05:00 PM
3

yeah, it was, sadly, my reality. haha. it was as absurd as it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 03:30 PM
3

football and cheerleading were a big deal in my town... but those groups were essentially given a free ride throughout school so they never learned or got in the habit of really trying hard i guess. they definitely peaked then though; most of them are out of shape, working in the same small town, with families (though, it's nice to see that most of them seem pretty happy with that). in any case... definitely not gods.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 03:19 PM
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just saying... the captain of the football team in my town never left and still works at a gas station, while mark zuckerberg is... mark zuckerberg. the complaints about TRP behavior aren't so often about teasing but about the other methods that they use, like dread game/cheating and actively trying to tear down a woman's self esteem. a woman with established self esteem won't put up with it; an insecure woman probably would believe that she can't do any better than an RP man and is beneath him,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:21 PM
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if you're sick, pretty much nothing makes sense and everything sucks/hurts. sick people, as a general rule, aren't always super friendly and enthusiastic because they feel like shit. if you were feeling poorly, wouldn't you want someone to take care of you at least a little? cut her some slack, ffs. not everything is some grand battle (in fact, most things aren't).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 05:07 AM
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no. his aggression and behavior was a huge turn off. not just because it was unbecoming, but because often, i was hurt and terrified and incapable of feeling much else if he was having one of his mood swings. real mood killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:20 AM
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first guy. neither; i had sex with neither of them. they were probably about equal on the gifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:16 AM
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we were intimate without having sex; that should be sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:15 AM
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i didn't have sex with anyone in high school, and it was on and off for 5 years rather than a solid 5 years together. i wasn't comfortable with it; abstinence was pushed pretty heavily at home and in schools/church. the first person i slept with (mentioned above) took place after both the kind guy and the jerk; after that, there was a period of time where i was pretty disillusioned and mostly avoiding relationships, but we liked each other and i trusted/liked him enough, felt like i had waited l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:07 AM
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hey, i answered your question, do what you want. i know what i lived and felt regardless of TRP's interpretation of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:51 AM
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i didn't sleep with first guy. we were on and off for 5 years (though 3 of those were in high school, so it's a little different than dating as an adult). i wanted to during our last 'on' period but it just didn't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:41 AM
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excuses. okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:24 AM
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yes and yes. i fell for a guy in high school who was a little chubby, had some interesting fashion, and pretty nerdy, by most high school standards; into computer science, band, filming himself and friends in cosplay/reenactment videos of their favorite movies and shows... we were in high school, so i'm going to skip the job question because no one really has high status jobs in high school. he was always nice to me even though i was really shy and had a hard time socializing. he would often sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:22 AM
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you know? you basically admitted to fudging those numbers so i don't think even you know. it's great that you get fulfillment from multiple sources in life, but it doesn't excuse outright mistreating people. if you repeatedly end up with people who aren't right for you, it would be worth considering, thoroughly, that you might be the cause. you are what those women have in common, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 12:25 AM
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they so love pretending this never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 12:00 AM
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because if you strip away basic advice that has existed forever, the negatives are all that's left.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 11:58 PM
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well, none of this is true based on anything that i've seen or experienced so i'm not sure we have much to talk about. clearly, we run in different circles. i would suggest that a relationship that you have to scare or coerce someone into staying in hardly seems worth it; just find someone you're compatible with, someone you don't have to view as your enemy. or, enjoy the single life... but that advice is usually disregarded, i assume because it presents a real challenge to some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 11:55 PM
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you still think it's worth whining and making stuff up about so i'm not really sure you're much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 11:38 PM
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i don't disagree that boundaries are important, but /u/fruitenvrac explained the difference between boundaries and the behavior i usually see being referred to as holding frame perfectly here. it was at least a month ago so i don't have a link, but for example, i remember reading a post where a woman was sick on the couch and couldn't decide if she was cold or not/wanted the backdoor closed or not. i seem to remember him getting impatient and basically deciding or outright telling her she could …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 11:04 PM
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that, and being completely unyielding. i guess it makes sense if you're just doing ONS or hooking up, don't know how anyone can expect to be in a truly happy and loving relationship if they never compromise or even try to work with their partner. if you're not willing to try and actually be a partner or one half of a relationship, just stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 10:40 PM
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Kids happens outside marriage too, and are just as much, if not more stressful in that situation. Except when kids precipitate shotgun marriage, it's very unlikely for people to get married without establishing compatibility on the topic of kids. you don't have to get married to have children; that's obvious. but i still think it's more common for married people to have children. and even if you're compatible on the subject of children, daily care, future planning, all of that can still be stres…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 07:09 PM
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well no, all of the things i mentioned typically happen after a couple is married. the stress of finding a good partner exists outside of marriage, yes, but you're still going to experience stress after you're married which is why it's important to find someone reliable, that you can depend on and work through it together with (especially since you have to go through divorce now if you want to split up). none of the stressors i mentioned before are necessarily a sign of a bad or unhappy marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 06:29 PM
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i agree with /u/belletaco on this one... even if you're not interested in other people, entering into marriage with another person can be stressful and overwhelming. in most cases, at least, marriage leads to other major life decisions (like kids and things involving kids, home ownership, in-case-of-death planning, and so on) so the stress can continue. that's on top of entering into a contract with someone else that you can't so easily escape should things go south (which is an ever-present ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 06:12 PM
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yup; came here to say/upvote this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 04:43 PM
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what's the point of even using the concept? indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 03:15 PM
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so you clean up for just yourself, to your level of satisfaction alone. that's nothing like cleaning up for an entire family.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 01:31 PM
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it's simple: if you care about your wife and children, helping out around the house is part of that (especially if both parents work). if you don't care about your wife or children and see them simply as chore-doer and noisy offspring, then sit on the couch with a beer while you watch them work and play together, and years later wonder why you were left behind, why your family has no interest in talking to you or having you in their lives, why the courts don't grant custody to you. if you hate t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 01:30 PM
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spoken by someone who's never actually dealt with it. it's not 5 minutes, actual thorough cleaning is hard work. try it sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 12:40 PM
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or he could let her deal with the kids, because he has work in the morning and most women with young children do not. She could work out at home as well. households with two working parents are pretty common now, aren't they? especially if you have children... you need as much income as you can get, as far as i can tell. TIL women are "overwhelmed" by meal preparation and clean up. I wonder how much they complained before dish washers and other appliances were invented by men. if it's something …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 04:13 AM
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this is always the thought i had when someone brings this up... it didn't make much sense to me, given that. but i've never researched it, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 01:11 AM
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this sounds just like my husband and i. he loves legos, particularly the star wars sets.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 11:07 PM
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well, then we can just agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:05 PM
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you don't think RP men considering marriage would go there to read? why wouldn't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 07:49 PM
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half the posts on TRP are also about failure (to anyone viewing from outside that bubble); it happens whether you're married or not. that is always a risk, no matter what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 07:31 PM
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there are just more vocal anti-marriage RP people that tend to drown them out. also, there's a separate sub for RPers who are married, so those interested in marriage would probably sooner go there, if only to read before getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 07:12 PM
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both are acceptable; you can have whatever standards you want, given that they're legal. this doesn't mean you won't be criticized by some people, for some of those preferences though (nor are you guaranteed to find/engage someone that meets those preferences). men and women both get criticized for their preferences, even on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 07:10 PM
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well, i don't think that's true. there are RP people who support marriage as well; there are just more vocal anti-marriage RP people that tend to drown them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 06:49 PM
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i think you're misunderstanding something: non-RPers are for marriage if that's what two people want to do. it's not quite the same as being pro-marriage; it's just not anti-marriage. as for the individual... well, especially given the above, no one cares if someone chooses not to get married; there are non-RPers who have made this same decision for their own various reasons. do, if general-you want to. don't, if you don't. it's your decision; stop asking other people to change your mind or make…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 06:42 PM
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female world domination, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 02:05 PM
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i don't know. an RPer called me a slut for disagreeing with him, and then both continued to do so and repeatedly denied he ever did that despite those comments still being untouched and readable. seems pretty emotional to me, especially since he denied it outright.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 04:17 AM
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i do small things all the time (simple things as just thanking him for minor things, or bringing him food/drinks occasionally if i'm passing through the kitchen) but he looked really good dressed up for my work holiday party, so i told him so. as far as bigger things... this year i got him tickets to see a band he's been dying to see since he was a teenager. my closest guy friends moved out of state so i don't see or talk to them much, sadly, but hopefully that changes when they move back. i'm s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 01:28 AM
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tah-dah. let's not pretend you don't know, at least a little, what you're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 10:05 PM
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you've had comments removed and many, many flaws pointed out in your OP and manner of engaging with others. you misquote and strawman all over the place, and if anyone dares to disagree with you even slightly, well dammit they had better be prepared to pay the price! but somehow, you still want to be taken seriously, and you want everyone else to be giving their responses 100% effort and explanation. no one can change your mind or convince you of anything if you're dead set on the idea that ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 09:50 PM
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i don't care about your answers anymore. your initial response said enough; this will go nowhere, i was just hoping that i'd get a different kind of response from you this time. too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 09:48 PM
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please find posts that back up what you're saying, instead of just making something up and claiming someone else said it. can you debate or discuss honestly at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 09:45 PM
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upvotes for awesome answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 09:44 PM
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Second, they didn't work in ANY situation. NONE. They didn't work with any women, in any situation, at any time in any place. Never. "never in the history of the world, did this ever work!" okay. well, i tried to have a serious discussion, at least. if that's the case, the problem was with you, your methods, or the women you sought out and tried them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 09:35 PM
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well, you've never really outlined the situations in which this didn't work, as far as i can tell. it could have been any combination of things, including but not limited to: not actually being as nice as you thought you were misunderstanding 'be nice' and becoming a doormat instead of a human being selecting partners poorly all of the above happen to people all the time, and even if they do almost everything right, people can still get hurt or taken by surprise (at which point it's the reaction…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 09:20 PM
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what do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 09:02 PM
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yes, you are correct; that is not good faith honest critique.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 09:00 PM
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did TRP advocate throwing away your dictionary as an initiation ritual? i've never seen another group of people ask for definitions for basic terms so frequently. you know what all of these mean; you can drop the feigned ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 08:28 PM
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there's no shame in just working out at the gym... but even as someone who doesn't care for sports, hearing that someone plays a sport makes them more interesting to me. aside from the fitness benefits, it's also an expressed interest that you have, unless you're doing something you hate just to look good. i don't even like sports but if i happened to be on a date with someone that was passionate about playing a sport i would definitely be more interested and want to know more about their experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 08:24 PM
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it's probably because you just reject any attempt anyone even makes to try and respond to you. you're going to fight anyone who doesn't wholeheartedly agree with you and eventually resort to personal attacks and insults when you get tired of just shouting people down, so while i commend anyone who actually tried to have a discussion... it was probably pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 08:04 PM
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agreed... there's no foolproof guide for how to live your life and interact with other people because people vary, and you cant possibly plan for every single interaction or relationship you're going to have (and hell, even when you think you've got it right, you can be surprised). you learn through trial and error, and/or simply trying to be the best person you can be. you're going to screw up, you're going to get hurt, you're going to make a fool of yourself and you'll probably also do a thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 08:02 PM
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glad to hear it :) it's definitely a thing i wish i had done sooner, now that i'm on this side of it. haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 06:39 PM
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The more you learn to translate your emotions into words, the more you'll be able to control them and understand them. When you train yourself to not talk about emotions, you get better and better at... not talking about them. So the less you let them out, the more difficult it becomes to express them without losing control. If you never talk about emotions, they bottle up and affect your thoughts and actions subconsciously. this, so much. i think this is what some therapy also aims to avoid/imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 05:18 PM
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choosing not to have children doesn't make you anti-children, but that aside... it's not going to matter much either way if you're dead, and it might not be the worst thing if more people opted out of it (especially if they're unfit or uninterested).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 01:47 PM
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how is this a CMV? your subject is just summarizing the article.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 12:39 PM
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then find someone openly not monogamous? why would you intentionally seek someone who's going to sneak behind their partner's back? it seems like you're looking for some sort of approval for that; i don't get it. what's the benefit? what's the goal that normal dating/hooking up without having to lure someone else into cheating isn't providing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 08:58 PM
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yup. what happens when the next 'other man' comes along? she clearly doesn't view her relationships with current man or other man as valuable. other man can sleep with someone else. other man can find someone who isn't likely to just turn around and betray him next. other man can do better, or at the very least he can wait for the current relationship to end normally instead of sneaking around (though he's still taking risks with this woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 08:39 PM
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perhaps he could try having some respect for himself instead, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 08:24 PM
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i may come back to answer these questions in more detail later... but a lot of this seems to be painting 'the other man' as some kind of hero for fucking someone who is in a relationship based on a lot of 'what ifs' which is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 08:21 PM
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you're stretching really hard to liken this situation to other every day experiences, i assume to absolve men of any responsibility when it comes to knowingly hooking up with women in relationships (twisting things around, a favorite pastime of TRPers in this sub). i'm not interested in going down that road, i know how it ends, so i won't be responding after this. wish i could say it had been fun. oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 07:13 PM
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yes, competing with others in general is exactly the same as sleeping with your best friend's girlfriend. well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 07:02 PM
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i would hope any decent person, if they know the woman is already in a relationship (especially if it's with his friend) would feel pretty terrible about proceeding to hook up. if you engage in activity that you know will hurt someone else, you should feel at least a little guilt and shame. it wouldn't excuse the actions of the woman; definitely not. but you're knowingly doing something that will hurt another person, to serve yourself (and really, anyone can do better than a cheater; this woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 06:49 PM
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at least IME... it's a mix of wanting grandchildren and just continuing tradition. the world is changing though, so anyone with a problem with some women not having children can... go deal with it :) . really, i'd much rather see people who don't want children simply abstain from having them, instead of doing it because 'they're supposed to, like everyone else.'
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:31 PM
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well, his expression is odd and so is his hair; he's definitely looked better than that, it was a bad picture. that aside, i just happen to find different men attractive; that doesn't make henry cavill ugly. plenty of other women still adore him based just on his looks; he, and men like him, aren't hurting for admirers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:43 PM
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since you don't seem to be aware: it is possible to treat people kindly and not as a subordinate or enemy without letting them walk all over you. my husband has plenty of confidence; that's why he doesn't feel the need to try and tear other people down or hurt them. he stands up for himself without needing to stomp on someone else. he's both kind and confident; imagine that. that being said, i'd find a sweet guy seeking romance but lacking confidence far more attractive than an angry guy lacking…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:24 AM
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yeah, no. TRP actively advocates diminishing a woman's self esteem so she'll either sleep with him, or decide not to leave him (among other things). some of you admit it, some of you don't, but it really doesn't matter; the content is right there on your sub. really, the place is chock full of stuff like that. if you just wanted people to agree with you that TRP is great, this post may have been more appropriate for a sub within their network.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:44 AM
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ah, so cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:29 AM
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if you're just shrugging, why bother responding? it doesn't seem like we have much to discuss if that's all you want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:04 AM
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sure, live how you want within the law. don't think you won't be criticized, fail, or simply become a terrible person though. no one is immune to that (and if you should break the law or be involved in a criminal case, your history will either help or hurt you so it's worth being mindful of).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:47 AM
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i think you're overestimating the attractiveness of RPers, and he really isn't that good looking in that picture anyway. additionally, i don't care how good looking a guy is, if he treats me the way RPers encourage men to treat women, i'm done; not interested. i don't think the women TRPers say they want deep down would be achievable via TRP because nothing about TRP or the men that follow it is authentic except for the hate and paranoia. they'll continue seeking intimacy and validation in the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:40 AM
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there will always be women who don't do these things, and think they should never have to. however, i think that many women are moving away from expectations like that, and already do the things you mentioned. i'll make myself an example: i hold the door open for anyone, man or woman. my husband and i take turns paying for dinners and nights out, usually based on who has been paid more recently. if he sees something he wants but he's running low on money and i'm able to buy it, i get it for him,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 02:13 AM
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nah. they're setting the same limits, putting forth the same conditions. if it isn't manipulation when a man does it, then it's not manipulative for a woman to do it either. you can pretend it is just because you don't like being on the receiving end, but in reality, they're doing the exact same thing (and yes, healthy relationships do work when both partners are considered equal, without hierarchy).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:23 AM
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okay, so then a woman saying 'give me X or we're over' isn't manipulation after all (not that i thought that to begin with, but just for, you know, reference).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:07 AM
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wait... RP men are constantly saying it's fine and not manipulative if they say "give me X or i'm leaving." has that changed? i can't keep up...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 11:43 PM
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i have a few guy friends who share things like this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 11:12 PM
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come to think of it... i also asked out my husband 6 years ago. i think i had the same general thought; we liked each other, knew it, so... no reason to dance around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 10:35 PM
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well, i think holding the door is just general, person-to-person politeness; i do that for other people, so i think it's just nice to get that in return. i don't see not wanting to cook or clean as a chivalry issue either. i think the real men/real women memes are stupid, though, and i don't personally think it's great to expect special treatment from men just because you're a woman. that doesn't mean it's okay for men to be impolite in turn; i still appreciate manners and courtesy, but it shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 10:32 PM
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am woman, can confirm: not that into hayden christensen. not really my type, and even so, pretty is boring; you need an interesting personality, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 03:36 AM
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ah, i guess i don't spend time on those subs; i was only referring to off-reddit. the only time i've actually heard those terms on reddit is from RPers, actually, haha. but yeah, they seem like a hateful bunch as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 01:01 AM
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i've had the misfortune of encountering some parents with a superiority complex based solely on the fact that they had children :/ but, not rage, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 10:32 PM
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best answer. some people on either side take the decisions of the other side way too personally. neither are really affected by the decisions of the other so... let it go.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 10:02 PM
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i think this sub is bad for you. really.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 09:03 PM
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no, i don't think it's okay for women to lead men on either. however, if a man is friends with a woman and has feelings that he doesn't make obvious or known, despite there being no signals that she's romantically interested... well, he's responsible. he made up that secret fantasy all on his own, and has expectations no one else is aware of. if a man can't be friends with a woman without inserting romantic subtext into everything, he's the problem, not the women who are unaware or simply don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 08:52 PM
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what are you talking about this doesn't even make any sense, and as usual, is miles away from the actual subject. just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 04:52 PM
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pretty sure that person is just a recurring troll :/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 04:52 PM
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i don't know why being paid to sleep with women would make him immune to this or incapable of actually raping someone (i'm not saying one way or the other regarding this particular situation, however).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 05:54 AM
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being intentionally unclear about your intentions with someone who is obviously into you is taking advantage of their interest in you. do you really not know what it means for one person to take advantage of another?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 05:48 AM
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i guess i'd feel a little bad for them, so long as they weren't under the impression that they were entitled to anyone's attention (feeling interested vs. feeling entitled). regardless of whether he's out of their league, though, they're aiming for something they aren't getting, over and over, so i guess i'd encourage them to try something or someone else so that they don't get hurt. if they refuse... well, i tried :/ .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 02:59 AM
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Everyone ignores each other while typing on their phones. i can only imagine myself doing that... clearly, i'm not much of a partier, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 11:03 PM
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it sounds extreme to me. it takes some real effort and anger to treat someone that poorly, constantly. i don't think most people do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 08:19 PM
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yup. cheating is pretty much always terrible and/or pointless, IMO. if someone's treating you like this, i also don't think that cheating will change them or undo the damage that they've done. walking away is by far the better choice, even if it takes a little 'fight' to free yourself. if it's a sudden change it's probably worth discussing and trying to understand, but if that doesn't work, it doesn't sound to me like anything good can come from that relationship continuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 08:13 PM
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oh, this is tough (given that sundays are usually get-stuff-done days, and fun is out of the question)... i guess it would go something like this: 1) sleep etc. until 11-ish 2) grab a coffee and small breakfast on our way out of town 3) stop by comic/used book stores and browse for a bit 4) meet up with a couple of friends at their place for games/chitchat, or grab more coffee at a café for a bit 5) stay at the café and enjoy ourselves, or go home and play videogames/watch tv together, or just e…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 12:12 AM
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... what else have you done with your life, though? and why did you stop (if you have)? if, hypothetically, we were just casually dating, it would be more of a problem than if we were in a relationship. i'm pretty selective, so if i were attracted to them and seeing them regularly, it's because i felt like there was a good future there. context and who they are now certainly matters, however. STD testing for both of us would be required right away. i wouldn't like it, but it's already happened a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 09:20 PM
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i didn't bring up courts or anything, so i wasn't talking about the legal system, rather the responses from society. on that subject, i think there should be evidence before there's any sentencing etc. going on. if RPers had their way, however, based on the way that they comment, any and all reports of rape would be thrown out and deemed false, and the woman who dared report it would become a social outcast and deservedly so. that's not a solution either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 05:34 PM
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i feel like at least one of two things happen whenever this subject comes up: TRPers really can't believe that anyone in the world would simply not like them. they don't understand that we're so fundamentally different that even if they didn't identify themselves as a red piller, we probably still just wouldn't get along. i might not know why at the time, but it just wouldn't feel right and i would avoid them to avoid the discomfort. it's happened to me before; there are some people i just don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 04:53 PM
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well it's safe to assume that if i don't share basic values with someone, our other views also won't mesh. i'm faced with differing viewpoints here and out in the world on a regular basis, so it's not a vacuum. however, i don't have any obligation or interest in spending a night out with someone i don't agree with. if i'm going to this event i likely want to enjoy it, and i wouldn't enjoy spending it with a red piller, based on our different values, personalities, and ways of communicating. most…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 04:36 PM
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i probably could; most of you sound pretty obnoxious IMO. showy people, people who talk too much or too loud, people who are clearly looking for some kind of approval... it wears me out. i'm pretty introverted so i don't do social stuff much as it is. plus the premise of the OP is that you'd be self-identified. if you weren't self-identified and acting like a normal human being, then in this situation you essentially wouldn't be a red piller. probably still wouldn't talk to you though; i'm gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 04:09 PM
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hur hurrr yeah i hate women. you found me out. red pillers... please work on your humor or stop trying. this is getting old.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 04:00 PM
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yes, they are exceptions. great, i already said that. i don't need you to confirm it. the other commenter clearly has some problems and a very personal, extremely negative view of all women. our exchange was entirely pointless; i wish i had realized that from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 03:59 PM
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so... you don't know at all. cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 03:55 PM
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i've already responded to the 'don't make false claims' seminar suggested above; it's not the same. everyone should learn about consent; why are you taking this so personally? it's not meant to be taken personally. it's just an education seminar that isn't even mandatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 03:53 PM
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perhaps he should grow a skin. it was probably a blanket invite to students.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 03:51 PM
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/u/SGRP's comment suggested seminars for pregnant women, and you simply said 'they' so it seemed that both of you were only referring to women since you didn't state otherwise. there are a lot of people in this thread who also interpreted the consent seminars as only being for men, so it seemed like another case of trying to turn the tables on women to see how women would feel in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 03:50 PM
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i haven't seen that. i also don't seek out the worst in feminists, though. for the most part, i see support being offered to victims sharing their story which appears to be accurate. it's a shame that in a couple of high-profile occasions, those stories have turned out to be different from what they originally appeared to be. i would rather society offered support to victims of terrible crimes knowing they may sometimes be wrong than simply assume anyone who says they were a victim is lying. i m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 03:47 PM
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no. i mean i don't Skype with them or even bother with IRC chat, so meeting up with them in person... nah. sounds like a waste. plus i get the feeling they'd make me really uncomfortable one way or another; i don't get the sense that most of them know how to act appropriately in a social situation, especially if women are present. if they just happened to be at an event i was attending, i would simply avoid them once i realized they were there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 03:37 PM
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but was it only for men? how do we know specific people were targeted for invites?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 05:04 AM
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it's a shame you've chosen such a narrow view.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 05:03 AM
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but his pride! you'll hurt it!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 03:07 AM
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the song starts off with a no; that should be enough, if we're comparing this to a real-life situation. IMO if a someone says no 1000x times and says yes 1 time and you fuck than its cool But if someone says yes 1000x and says no 1 time and you keep going its rape well, i would say that depends on a lot of factors that aren't really outlined in your comment. in reference to the song and the situation presented in it, it's not okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 02:56 AM
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You want women to have total control of men. Some men are bad, but ALL women are bad. i don't think you should be spending your time on reddit, and i have no interest in continuing to talk to you if this is really your point of view. this conversation is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 01:42 AM
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no. you sharing a single anecdote is not an example of the norm. if you think that it is, you may be misunderstanding what 'the norm' means. as for the rest of your comment... bad people and liars exist, and some of them are women. if you have people around you that deny that women can be bad people or do bad things, get away from them. similarly, if you surround yourself with people who assure you that all women and only women are horrible, get away from them too. neither group is helping you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 01:33 AM
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his reaction reminds me of the articles i've read recently about college students wanting special treatment/curriculum changes in their classes because some pieces of classic literature contain mentions of rape and racism that make them uncomfortable. i don't even know why he's taking the existence of these seminars so personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 01:11 AM
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i'm sorry that happened to you, but this is still not the norm nor is it really evidence that society is 'for' people filing false accusations. additionally, it seems pretty clear that she knew what she was doing and why, which is what i said most people are aware of, above.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 01:04 AM
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do you believe that story is the norm, or a newsworthy exception? i didn't read up on it much so i can't say anything for sure, but that hardly seems like your average case to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 12:35 AM
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well in these scenarios, the seminars are only for women. did the article say only men had to attend the consent seminars? i didn't see that, and if not, you're already presenting something that isn't the same as this actual situation. you know when you're falsely accusing someone of a crime. you know when you're committing murder or stealing (save for a few exceptions that are definitely not the norm). you may not know or realize when you are crossing someone's boundaries or proceeding with som…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 12:20 AM
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well i don't really consider those two subjects or scenarios to be similar, so we'll agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 11:54 PM
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the amount of 'no's' in that exchange would suggest to me that it wasn't wanted. if someone was recounting this as a story to me, yeah, i'd think the guy was kind of a creep. i don't think i would consider it an example of date rape, but if someone has to say no in so many different ways...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 11:51 PM
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well... some rapists look exactly like that, so i can't say i entirely agree with him. that aside... were the seminars only for men? that seems pretty dumb. were they excessive? not everyone needs it so i get how it could be a little annoying to have to attend, but i'm not seeing why this is such a huge offense. i do think consent is an important subject and worth educating people about. the reactions he's gotten sound way over the top and undeserved; he should have been prepared for some sort o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 10:38 PM
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considering you aren't the one getting the procedure, your opinion is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 01:48 AM
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this. also, if i'm not mistaken, some of the operations and risks can be pretty major.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 12:50 AM
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seems fine. i don't want kids either, but even if i did, i don't think there's anything wrong with someone choosing not to have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 12:48 AM
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2015 is the closest, i suppose. i like comfortable with some style; pants, button-downs, and a sweater/jacket for the office, a hoodie, jeans, and a tee at home. glasses are always a plus 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 12:38 AM
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yeah, this is bullshit. perhaps you are unique, but men escalate quickly when they want to get laid easily and quickly. i don't believe they're testing a woman's 'worth', they're just seeing whether or not they'll get lucky. no need to dress it up as something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:40 PM
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i would believe that if they weren't so constantly gleeful about the idea of causing women pain and distress (for what they believe is an injustice that all women have committed against them, by simply exercising bodily autonomy).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:03 PM
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oh please. how many times have we seen red pillers writing sagas about how they're such honorable, unconditionally loving men while women are evil harpies? let's not pretend that your holy endorsed contributors don't waste hours of their days writing absurdly long posts about this very thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:02 PM
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yeah, your comments about entitlement have nothing to do with what i said. and i already stated that moving on is the best course of action if you're not getting what you want or need, so... thanks for reiterating that to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:51 PM
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hey now. don't you know that women never tell the truth when it comes to self-reporting? must throw this out, then. seriously though, find a better way to bring up this subject. i can't imagine any productive discussion coming from an OP presented this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:34 PM
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do you really think it's not hurtful just because a man doesn't say outright 'i'm doing this to punish you'? if so... you're wrong. it's still hurtful. if you've reached the point where you have to do that, assuming you're not just really immature and needy, you should consider leaving the relationship instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 03:53 PM
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how can you not see how hurtful that is? sure, a woman can refuse a man in a hurtful way, but sometimes 'not tonight' is for a simple reason, and not meant to hurt anyone. proceeding despite not feeling into it, physically or mentally, usually winds up being a pretty lackluster experience for both. the scenario above, however, is spiteful, and definitely meant to hurt your partner. it may come as a surprise to you, but it's also a turn-off to a lot of women. it's stuff like this that makes me lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 03:35 PM
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yup. this, enthusiasm, trust, and a willingness to try different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:35 PM
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nope, didn't do that. seems pretty cruel, if you're knowingly taking advantage like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 06:29 AM
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yeah, if we had no context and a woman posted about doing that (just like the thread being criticized at TBP), i'd think she was pretty pathetic. she's not owed orgasms; no one is. if she's not getting them, they need to either work it out, or she needs to move on. it's not okay to treat your partner that way. it's not okay to intentionally do things to hurt the people you're with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 02:29 AM
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these are the feelings that red pillers aim to inspire in women... maybe you do understand the reaction some people have to TRP after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 02:22 AM
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yeah, no. think what you want, but no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:44 AM
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he acted shitty and people responded accordingly. the world is this way. i don't care if it upsets you. all i could see was a man getting petty revenge against his wife. it doesn't become cool or okay if you're in pain. maybe he is, maybe he isn't. personally, i think you're adding in a lot of things that aren't present in his post to serve yourself. either way, he's still being shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:31 AM
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oh, stop with the melodrama. where did he say he was hurting and in pain? did it say that she wouldn't sleep with him, or that she couldn't? did it explain why? no. all we know is that for revenge, because they're not having sex enough, he's punishing her for it in an incredibly childish way. no one's painting the woman as a hero here; we don't really know enough to be able to do that. however, his behavior is shitty, so that was pointed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:11 AM
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replying to the right one this time... they're allowed to have their opinions. why don't you think so? why don't you think his behavior is allowed to be criticized? if a woman only slept with a man whenever he did chores or gave her money, how do you think that would go over at TRP? i think we both know the answer to that. i also saw a lot of people sharing their thoughts about this based on their own relationships and experiences, and explaining the reasons and feelings behind their opinions an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:01 AM
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yeah, i think regardless of his marital/bedroom problems, doing this is pretty terrible. it would be just as terrible if his wife only had sex with him when she needed something from him or wanted him to do her a favor (and before anyone claims that all married women do this... don't. save us both the silly discussion). both are petty punishment, and neither are caring ways to treat a partner. if you have a problem, deal with it like adults, instead of just doing childish things to hurt or antag…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 11:52 PM
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she responds, discusses, and debates here accordingly. people who just come to point and laugh at the other side with no real contribution are eventually banned, by design. some people from both sides do this, but they're in the minority and they never last long.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 07:51 PM
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ooooh, good one. really proving your superiority here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 06:57 PM
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no one has to do anything. everyone is still welcome to share their opinions here so long as the rules aren't broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 06:54 PM
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this isn't TBP; they're completely different subs with different discussions (and mods ban circle-jerking from both sides for that reason). banning people for their participation in other subs makes no sense at all, if it's not actively harming the sub. i mean, if you want to write people off that aren't red, then fine; it makes your presence here just as pointless. being a member of TBP doesn't at all mean people have nothing to share, though; that's absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 06:47 PM
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somehow all divorces also absolutely destroy everyone's lives around them, no matter what. there is no such thing as an amicable or orderly split, no sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 05:48 PM
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lol i have really important things to say, but no, you don't get to hear them. just believe me, it's important and matters. wait, why are you looking at me like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 03:19 PM
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probably none. would be a sweet deal if you could do it, not get bored, and still pay bills, though. i don't think most people can manage that, however; sounds like it would be incredibly dull.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 03:15 PM
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well, we all know that's a choice they made and had complete control over, conceiving and giving birth to a boy instead of a girl. they should have seen it coming, right? i mean, they're just getting what they deserve, doing something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 02:27 PM
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TIL: just for being a woman, i am responsible for the way that other people behave around me and because of this, my partner is totally justified in hurting me and making me think he's going to cheat on me (or actually cheating on me). what a load of bullshit. i don't know how any of them can take themselves seriously with that kind of 'logic'. talk about desperately trying to absolve yourself of any responsibility for the way you behave, jeez, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 02:22 PM
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huh. red pillers are pretty beta then. they're an incredibly insecure bunch; the difference is, they take that out on other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 02:19 PM
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no. but sharing the same basic values? yeah, that's pretty important for any kind of compatible relationship. you're just setting yourself up for a miserable relationship otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 02:15 PM
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because we live different experiences and approach problems differently, i would guess. that's the simplest answer, anyway. there's probably also a big difference in how the two sides go about getting what they want. in my opinion (though it's not exclusive to TRPers) many RPers give the impression of people who lost and never got over it. they didn't win one match, so they gave up the game entirely and swear that it was rigged against them from the start. a lot of the thinking at TRP is the eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 05:23 AM
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if you're so proud, why are you making all these posts demanding that other people explain themselves to you (especially about topics that have been beaten to death here)? look, if that's how you want to think and you don't plan on changing your mind, fine, do that. there's not really any thought or action that's immune to judgment anyway. just know that you'll be criticized for it, and it'll probably end up hurting and pushing away a lot of great people that could have been part of your life. t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 04:49 AM
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mattered less to the world, granting you more freedom and less 'manly' standards to live up to if you don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 01:58 AM
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i thought having to be a 'manly' man was something that TRP lamented, and claimed they only did to get laid. so, if a world came about where that mattered less (regardless of what you think of the world currently) wouldn't this be to your benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 12:45 AM
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look, we get it, you don't understand anything about abuse. just admit that you don't believe in it or whatever, and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 05:23 PM
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You're using your own anecdotal evidence of shit men in your own life to say that all people who visit the Red Pill are scum bags. if it looks like a duck, and talks like a duck... look, there are a few red pillers who aren't as bad as others, but they're still buying into an ideology that has determined i'm their enemy. if you're going to subscribe to an ideology that suggests i'm inferior to you and yet somehow an adversary to you that must be controlled just because i'm female, then i'm defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 04:13 PM
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nope. try again. you really need a new strawman; this one's pretty worn out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 04:04 PM
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she just did. quit pretending this isn't being explained to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 03:15 PM
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... what the fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 03:07 PM
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i think abuse is exactly what it's defined as, which you can find with the link above if you're so inclined. if you're not, well, not my problem if you won't look it up and claim to be unaware.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:59 PM
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don't be this lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:43 PM
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... which is a form of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:32 PM
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actually, it does. put simply, you can still try to see the best in your partner even when they're abusing you, without realizing you're being abused. if you don't understand that, you don't know anything about how abuse works. it's not like the example provided in your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:26 PM
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she isn't saying that abused partners deserve abuse. she's saying that the abusive partner destroys their self-esteem enough, or otherwise makes the abused partner feel like they're worthless and can't do any better than the abusive partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:17 PM
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think about what i'm doing wrong to attract men who i clearly don't have much in common with, and figure out ways to find ones that do share my views.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:03 PM
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i'd be disappointed but i'd move on. he's not wrong or bad for disagreeing with me, but if we don't share basic values then there's no point in seeing him again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 01:28 PM
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you asked a question, and people are answering. if you are just going to reject answers that contradict what you want to hear, this was a pointless thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 04:18 AM
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it's not crazy to consider that those closest to you can tell whether or not someone is able to offer what you're seeking, or if they have your best interests at heart. trusting your gut is good too; if something feels wrong, it typically is. i would recommend examining why you feel that was before making any rash decisions... but again, if something feels 'off' there's usually a reason why. explore that. listen to it. predatory people typically have an end goal in mind, and at least from my exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:42 AM
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i never even got that, sadly. thankfully i wasn't a victim of anything so sinister... but a warning or at least some sort of education about what risks were out there would have been nice. but i agree, there is no absolute guarantee of safety, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:12 AM
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these are great tips. you can never 100% protect yourself, sadly, but through discussion you can probably get a good idea of a person's values, how they mesh with your own, and how that person does and will treat you too. i think optimism is typically a good thing... but if someone treats you poorly, don't expect them to change. they aren't necessarily bad at heart, but they're likely beyond any help you can offer them and may not be worth the trouble at that given time. the rom-com i-can-save-t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:01 AM
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true. but it's not for their sake that i point it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 11:31 PM
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yeah, it does. RP men are generally pretty scummy, and if they aren't yet, they're on their way down that rabbit hole. do you think anything different about feminists and feminism? no? well then, you should understand. and maybe, just maybe, you should consider that some of us have a poor opinion of RP men because men like RPers have hurt us. our families. our loved ones. they entered our lives, damaged a lot of shit, and then left, for reasons that ultimately had little to do with us. so nice t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 11:17 PM
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yet another RPer who doesn't understand the difference between reality and fantasy. you might want to learn about that distinction if rape accusations are something that you fear. if you truly believe this, it's only a matter of time until you actually rape or assault someone, so please, get it through your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 11:14 PM
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well this is dumb. who actually advocates having you let people walk all over you and take advantage of you? do you think it's impossible to be nice without doing those things? obviously, this won't be successful, but it's also not what anyone here encourages others to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 10:38 PM
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But virtually all women feel the need to be dominated, otherwise the sexual act itself would make no sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 07:08 PM
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well, that's sad. get new friends, or try acknowledging that there's a world that exists outside of your own. plenty of people are mutually happy in relationships without resorting to weird games like TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 05:46 PM
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seconded; domination isn't my thing, and doesn't come into play for either participant. if it does, i'm probably out. it's uncomfortable for me. wasn't there just a thread where plenty of women also explained that they weren't really into domination (in addition to rougher, less considerate sex)? i get it if you haven't experienced women who aren't into it (i'm not trying to suggest that anyone's experiences are wrong), but claiming that virtually all women are isn't really accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 04:58 PM
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except nice men also end up happily married, and women also ignore mr. playboy or get tired of his shit. there's no guaranteed outcomes for anyone, much as TRPers try to assert that theirs is the one true way to success. besides, there's no evidence that any of you are actually successful, and the time you spend on Reddit would suggest otherwise so...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 04:46 PM
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it doesn't make that more likely. the older single RPers either hate women still, or wonder why they're alone and what all that getting laid was actually worth. neither of those equal a happy, healthy relationship or future with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 03:42 PM
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that you see any of this as a 'win' is hilarious. if this is your goal with men and women, let yourself crash and burn alone then; who cares. but really, i have to give OP kudos for being the only one to actually clarify what TRP has actually become; if you still don't think you've been fooled, well...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 02:50 PM
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on more than one occasion the descriptions of behaviors that red pillers encourage have been compared with 'know the signs' articles on help sites for abuse victims and overlapped pretty heavily. i've seen posts like that more than once on TBP. that's why, not some dumb ass comment made towards a woman calling a man short. it's because we see posts about a man taking his wife's cell phone away and driving her out to the middle of nowhere, not telling her where they're going, because he gets off …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 12:23 AM
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yeah, that would change things. bullies change with time, but i was also bullied pretty harshly in high school and i probably wouldn't want any of them to enter our circle of friends either. in that case, i could relate to his feelings. that's not really about male pride though, that's just being generally considerate and understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 06:33 PM
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i'll just respond to the examples since that's easier to answer to... He loses and takes it badly. Could be a small thing. Say arm wrestling. It was just fun and games, but in his mind he just failed his country or something. i would comfort him, maybe give him something to cheer him up (like a beer) and then encourage him to try again, depending on what it was. he and i are always trying to improve and learn new things so sometimes, frustration happens. His friends try something new and he trie…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 06:16 PM
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there would be less shouting if people were able to carry on a discussion without losing their minds regardless of which direction it went in. there's no reason for OP to be this upset, or attacking people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 04:50 PM
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how is shouting like this and attacking people supposed to help with discussion, at all? i really wish there was more of a restriction on off-the-handle hostility here, on both sides. i don't care about this subject one way or another, but that behavior has ruined some good questions and threads in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 03:56 AM
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yeah, that happens when you say senseless things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 02:56 AM
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too bad this will probably get deleted. as for the question... no, i don't like being used/treated that way. it's a horrible experience and actually, kind of frightening. no no no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 06:21 PM
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yeah, not even RPers can agree on what their 'tenants' are. besides, straw men are present on both sides. probably not going to change unless both sides stop doing it, which i don't see happening, ever. edit: this also sounds really similar to the claim that you can't judge TRP without thoroughly reading the sidebar, which is wrong. the behavior of your followers is just as open to criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 04:46 PM
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what i don't understand is why you won't also trust your partner and allow them control, while criticizing others and telling them that they don't trust people enough. is it frightening, the idea of giving someone else that kind of control?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 04:32 PM
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okay, then do what you value. trust, and hand over your power. will you? will you practice what you preach? somehow i don't anticipate that you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 04:09 PM
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you're the one calling people who don't give out power over their lives freely cold-hearted and mistrusting, and then refusing to do the same (and then throwing 'insecure' in there for no real reason). if you won't do it yourself, then why should anyone take you seriously when you start spouting nonsense like that? pah.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 04:00 PM
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you don't need justification, though. date who you want. how many times will non-RPers have to tell you that no justification is needed before you actually get it? RP men are the obsessed party here. everyone else is over it; it's your turn to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 03:54 PM
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why don't you swing that way, though? you have trust in humanity, unlike those coldhearted feminists, right? so it wouldn't be a problem to give a woman the reigns for a bit, right? i mean, why wouldn't you want to? what problems would that present? nothing could go wrong. just try it. just for a little while. or, hell. even give another man control, if it's women you have a problem with. surely, a man would never make a mistake or cause any suffering with that kind of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 03:36 PM
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well if you feel that way, hand over your power to someone else. see what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 01:52 PM
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You do know that women who aren't RPW still embrace their 'femininity' right? this. femininity isn't exclusive to RPW, nor is 'the manosphere' the group of people who gets to decide what/who is or isn't feminine. women who aren't RPW are still capable of being feminine, loving people. please, TRPers, don't be so foolish as to believe that these are things exclusive to RPW. that's just ridiculous :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 05:42 AM
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well, derp. somehow i overlooked the 'not' at the front of that sentence. i still don't agree that being promiscuous means being reckless; i think you can easily do that in a very careful and safe way. i'd consider things like heavy drinking and partying, quitting jobs or getting fired repeatedly, etc. etc. a bigger sign of recklessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 10:53 PM
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mythical-slut beast flair-worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 07:52 PM
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i've really been undervaluing the entertainment this sub has to offer. haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 07:09 PM
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aw, come on. don't be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 06:55 PM
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You're the one who keeps coming back here to debate me. You've left half the comments on this thread. Why? why not? is that not the purpose of this sub? didn't you even end your post with an invitation to discuss? why is that a problem for you? Why are you so passionate about this? Why do you insist on proving me wrong? Why do you come back here to tell me how wrong I am and how non-judged you (don't) feel? because i didn't feel like letting this absurd post slide. because i wanted to see if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 06:43 PM
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you're the one who's saying i feel judged, though. i don't, but you think that i should feel judged. you think that i disagree with you, because i personally feel judged. why do you think i should personally feel judged? that's all you, saying that. i just think you're wrong, and making up reasons for how you feel to justify it, for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 06:36 PM
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nah, you made it pretty clear you were implying that the only reason i'm criticizing you is because i myself am a slut. don't dodge it, own it. you did it again in this very comment. i mean, what else did you mean by Why are you so invested in this topic? Are you feeling...JUDGED? in a thread where you're passing judgment on promiscuous women? can you explain what else you meant, if you weren't resorting to name calling? why else would i feel judged by what you're saying? tell me. edit: and why …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 06:28 PM
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you got so upset that i disagreed with you and criticized your post (a pretty big diatribe, by the way) that you resorted to calling me a slut. you completely made up the quote in your OP, and haven't been able to provide any real evidence of other people saying things like that (which is fine, unless you claim it's an absolute fact). you also made a lot of frenzied edits to your posts after i had already responded, changing the things that you said. you yourself admitted that you feel a deep di…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 06:08 PM
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there should be a People Who Don't Get Enough Sleep Hate sub. i get the feeling it would be populated by people who are browsing the internet instead of sleeping though (it's reddit, after all) :( .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 06:05 PM
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the problem isn't the preference for non-promiscuous women, it's rage like that expressed by the OP that is really absurd. there's no reason anyone should be that upset about whether or not strange women are sleeping around. on your points, though, i think it's a stretch to assume that someone who was promiscuous before entering into commitment with you is going to cheat, though. they weren't previously breaking any promises if they were enjoying themselves while single, so promiscuous doesn't a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 05:29 PM
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that has nothing to do with this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 05:14 PM
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the only ones who can't seem to 'deal with it' are red pillers. i don't know why the point of saying that was. no one else cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 05:05 PM
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hey, i've shared as much as you have. we're even! yay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 04:38 PM
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hey, you presented your thoughts for criticism. why would i pass that up? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 04:34 PM
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yeah totally. i'm worried my 4325432 n-count might turn off strangers i've never met and don't encounter on a regular basis. you got me. responding to your edit, because you're changing all of your posts now: the use of the term 'slut' alone is a sign of contempt. it's derogatory. what happens to them as a result of their choices is not your problem; you're just trying to present it as if you care, like some kind of martyr. you couldn't care less about them, nor should you; this is about you try…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 04:30 PM
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you're the one whining about the situation. i'm just calling you out on it because it's absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 04:29 PM
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links? any kind of source other than your mind? otherwise i'm just going to assume it's something else you made up. you do care if people believe you. you made this post so that you could debate these views with people about them. and now, petulantly, you're asking me to provide evidence because i said that you needed to provide evidence ("you do it!" "no, YOU do it first!"). you have nothing; oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 04:28 PM
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are you really calling me a slut? tsk tsk. you shouldn't do that. you also shouldn't pretend that there's any kind of useful reason that you dislike promiscuous women. if you just don't like that a woman is promiscuous, fine. who cares? but you don't stop there. you have a vendetta. you feel wronged by them, and somehow vindicated by constantly ranting about them and insulting them (despite the fact that the grand majority of them don't even know that you exist). that's the behavior that's being…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 04:25 PM
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some people go out of their way to be mad about things that don't really involve them. we get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 04:21 PM
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Don't believe what? That I like women and want them to have what they want? Or that the only sluts who can "do as they please" and still get what they claim to want (which is a husband they like fucking, and children) are rich, hot, white, nonreligious, college educated women who live in coastal cities? ding ding ding! all of the above. EDIT: Ah, Science. Nothing a TRP says is valid at all unless it's supported with a random controlled, double blind, peer reviewed, published "study". OK. Here's …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 04:17 PM
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well, i don't believe you. i think you're making up excuses, or just using that red pill lens to analyze things a little too much. i might change my mind with evidence (given that it's not totally biased) but there's really nothing but opinion here. not even your quote is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 03:46 PM
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you just don't like that women can do as they please without regard for your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 03:40 PM
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i don't care, except for the part where you never stop talking about it, and then expect people to believe that you aren't hateful, or resentful, or bitter, or jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 03:29 PM
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if it wasn't about saying promiscuous women are bad, or doing bad things, or hating them, RPers wouldn't use words like 'disgust' when describing how you feel about them. you wouldn't use terms that are intended to insult those women. you wouldn't constantly write out fantasies where they sleep around in their youth, and end up dying alone. and relating to the second part of your post... you wouldn't see RPers saying that any n-count above 0 is too much for a woman. if you really didn't mind tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 03:23 PM
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really. but iwan rheon, on the other hand...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 06:05 AM
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sounds rough; i can definitely relate to some of that. glad to hear you're up and on to better things :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 04:50 AM
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... their sub(s). you must be new.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 04:49 AM
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this. but really, only self-centered hypergamous whores dump someone who does something they don't like right? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 03:13 AM
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probably less so; i was more generous than i should have been, hoping that as we got to know each other more he would become less of an abusive piece of shit. he didn't, though, which is why it ended. in the end we weren't compatible and i don't think he was a happy person overall, though, so i wouldn't be so eager to call it a victory. he's pathetic and sad, and so are the men like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 03:11 AM
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i won't speak for anyone else, but i know that i wouldn't date a man who acted like a TRPer because i already did and it was a terrible experience i don't want to repeat (thankfully i'm happily and lovingly married). this 'bloopers are in denial lolol' is nothing but a fantasy. also, those kinds of posts at TBP seem to often turn out fake. it might just be a troll, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 02:24 AM
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so you're now so upset that i don't enthusiastically, 100% agree with you that you're going to reject my answer and substitute your own even though you asked for people to respond to your thread with their thoughts. so once again... lol, ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 12:43 AM
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lol, ok, it's not a given that most people shower or leave their homes or have the ability to speak. totally rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 12:14 AM
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because those are generally given things that people both desire and possess. it's not a given that someone is assertive, strong, or decisive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 10:36 PM
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i don't know why you think that just because most people want it, no one would explain that they want that when they're asked. it's not like specifying human or not human, which is pretty much a given; it's a desirable personality trait that some possess, and some don't. when there are threads here about what our likes and dislikes are, several commenters end up sharing the same interests and we say them anyway. i don't get why that's so weird to you, but, oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 09:58 PM
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well, then i guess that's just characteristic of the men you spend time with (as like-minded people tend to stick together), or the way that you're defining assertive and decisive. however, same as before, i think most people want to be with someone who asserts themselves and makes decisions rather than depending on others to do that for them, or simply not doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 09:20 PM
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well, then, we're in agreement on that. if you were even reading, i said this several comments above: i didn't mean that it's something all men have, i meant that it's something most people want in a relationship just because every human can do it doesn't mean that they actually do. you should be able to use this sub as an example that men actually do seek those same things in women. there are complaints abound from RP men claiming that women are vapid, weak, ambitionless, and so on. regardless …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 09:10 PM
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for me, strong, assertive, and decisive is essentially someone who is able to make his own decisions confidently and stand by them, stand up for himself, take care of himself. i can't really think of any other way that those terms would be defined, but, be my guest if you think i'm wrong. as for me, my definition of attractive is far more lenient because i think all kinds of different things are attractive. i'm not really going to type out every single little thing i find attractive so you will …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 08:43 PM
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first, can you calm down? if all i can expect is all-caps frothing-at-the-mouth responses from you, then i'm out. i don't appreciate the suggestion that i'm somehow incapable of using common sense just because i don't share your views, either. i don't think attractive and good-looking are really the same as strong, assertive, or decisive. those things are far more subjective, so i don't think it's really fair to compare good-looking with assertive. in my opinion, you either are assertive or you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 08:18 PM
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well, that's just your opinion, i guess. i feel like i've been pretty clear about my meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 07:48 PM
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this doesn't make any sense. you're saying that someone who isn't strong, decisive, or assertive can still manage to be strong, decisive, and assertive. for me, and apparently other people as well, being strong, assertive, and decisive is equivalent to being able to take care of yourself, make decisions, and stand up for yourself. just because every human can do it doesn't mean that they actually do. there are plenty of people who shy away from those things. i would know; i used to be one, and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 07:22 PM
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don't speak for me. i didn't say every woman. i said most people, and it was just my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 06:56 PM
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i didn't mean that it's something all men have, i meant that it's something most people want in a relationship, from my experience. who wants to be in a relationship with someone who never thinks for themselves, and always needs their hand held to get through the day? someone who doesn't stick with the decisions they make, or isn't ever clear about their thoughts and intentions? people like that don't tend to make very good partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 06:55 PM
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STRONG, DECISIVE, ASSERTIVE, HAS HIS OWN OPINIONS, NOT AFRAID, DOESN'T LET ME WALK ALL OVER HIM to me, this just sounds like wanting an adult to act like an adult and an individual capable of thinking for themselves, instead of someone who needs constant care-taking. the last one is a little weird, though, and i can't say i've really heard any women say that. whether they actually do or not, i don't see most people admitting that they actively walk all over other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 06:29 PM
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convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 06:25 PM
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do you have an example of a post like that being shared in PPD with non-RPers largely and wholeheartedly agreeing with it, without any objections, doubts, or other opinions? because i think you just made that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 05:35 PM
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A book, written by a man, about women and our sexual imperative. How riveting and not bias. yeah, the book does sound really biased (and personally, all of you lose me when you start saying things like 'female imperative'). that's all she said, is that the book seemed biased. i don't get what the problem is here; if a non-RPer made the same post with, say, a post from jezebel explaining how men are, would you have no objections?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 04:09 PM
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honestly, the OP should be able to summarize the book for people who haven't read it if he wants to make a serious point and/or be taken seriously. not everyone is going to have read that book, and many people won't bother to read it just so that they can respond. this is essentially the same reason why this sub doesn't allow videos to be posted with no context. i also don't know why you think the thoughts expressed by the OP are immune to criticism. this is a redditor that regularly makes ridic…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 04:00 PM
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well, if it's not the relationship that's wrong, it's the individual who has the problem, the cheater, then. still not okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 05:56 AM
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then maybe they're just shit people who carelessly lie and betray others? i can't imagine why anyone would cheat if they were truly happy in their current situation though; no matter how minor, going outside of a relationship behind your partner's back is a sign that there's at least something you want that you aren't getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 05:36 AM
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i would probably agree with your definition of cheating. i don't know if i'd go so far as to consider it cheating, but flirting would bother me too. i don't believe it's ever justified. if things are so bad that you'd resort to it, you should just get out of that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 10:37 PM
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best answer. edit: holy hell, some people are taking this really seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 03:05 PM
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i don't know. in my experience, those erratic enough to go around assaulting people and destroying their property aren't that great at hiding those habits or calming down in front of cops. still would be worth it, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 06:06 AM
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well, depending... leave if you can and staying in place would be dangerous. call the cops, or try to get the attention of your neighbors if possible (given you know them and they will help you). if in public, getting attention or dodging someone until you're safe shouldn't be hard. i would also suggest restraint if possible, but as you mentioned, there may be risks with that sometimes (and it's not hard to really hurt someone by grabbing their wrists). i'd say getting away and/or getting help a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 05:57 AM
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i just feel like she handled it pretty poorly, and in an uncaring way, from what i read. it wouldn't make her a bad friend, per se, but i couldn't feel good about associating with someone who did that. being better than a cheater doesn't automatically make you a good person, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 08:37 PM
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but you're not :( and you don't even realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 08:20 PM
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seems so... Daniel also wasn’t the jealous type, and from time to time he would encourage me to be with other people. Whatever his reasons might have been, I wanted him to have the same freedom in hopes that if he ever desired someone else, he would tell me about it instead of cheating and lying. so, sigh. this again. fwiw, she sounds like someone i wouldn't want to know, and if we were friends, this would probably end that friendship. it doesn't seem that she pushed her husband into it though, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 07:31 PM
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it's still pretty bizarre that you think some women deserve mistreatment... but at least you haven't turned on the women actually close to you yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 03:34 AM
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so you would be okay with men harming and mistreating the women you know, or are related to? if so, you're definitely in the minority. most people don't have so little regard for the people they surround themselves with, and spend their lives with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 02:56 AM
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one man < a large group of men (including the one i was partially raised by). you may feel differently than they do, fine, whatever. but in my experience, that's generally how they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 02:25 AM
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conservative men who have wives, daughters, cousins, sisters, etc. etc. even if they do have more conservative or traditional beliefs, from experience, they're also pretty intolerant of needlessly hateful/boastful people or anyone who harms their loved ones. you mess with them, they mess with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 02:06 AM
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probably. do you think all gun owners are proud misogynists? i certainly don't. i've spent plenty of time in gun shops since i was a child (in texas, no less) and i wouldn't be at all surprised to see it go the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 01:28 AM
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yes, that is a valid question. you should be aware of what is and isn't a negative use of manipulation. however, suggesting that you don't know what manipulation is or isn't harmful is suggesting that, say, you believe a marketing campaign is the same as threatening someone with violence for not doing what you say, or gaslighting someone. this is common sense, so it shouldn't need to be explained repeatedly. you and /u/limekill and pretty much everyone else on this sub are perfectly aware of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 01:27 AM
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the responses in this very thread are proving you wrong. additionally, acknowledging men make mistakes and can be terrible is not remotely the same as saying women do no wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 10:36 PM
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good thing that's not what i, and many other non-RPers, believe then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 10:27 PM
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stop reiterating the OP to me. i can read. i just chose to only respond to part of it. i don't participate that much at TBP nor do i say that it's leaking, so given i can't speak to that part of it, i didn't. there are tons of posts and comments here complaining that TBP/the general population doesn't like TRP, and i even see similar sentiments occasionally at TRP itself so clearly some RPers do care. if you didn't, you wouldn't so vehemently deny the accusations cast at you based on your own be…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 08:15 PM
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are... are you saying lol to the idea of you having a credible source so that we don't have to? surprisingly generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 08:05 PM
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i don't think most, if any, non-RPers here believe that TRP created misogyny or that misogyny doesn't exist outside of TRP. you're just a highly concentrated group of misogynists, and you revel in it pretty openly and publicly so you receive a lot of criticism. it's not different from the reactions that people have to any other group like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 07:13 PM
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imagine the things you could achieve if you applied your efforts to something productive, instead of going in circles trying to prove to other people that men are never at fault and women are to blame for everything that goes wrong in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 06:38 PM
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why would anyone bother continuing a conversation with someone being intentionally obtuse? you know exactly the type of manipulation being referred to in these discussions. the only reason anyone plays the 'manipulation is everywhere' card is to avoid admitting that the TRP brand of manipulation is just crappy, and the mark of a crappy person. no one likes admitting they're a bad person, but come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 05:24 PM
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the coffee shop closure should be enough of an example that most people aren't TRPers and don't accept their ways of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 04:55 PM
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cool, so we're off the hook ever having to feel sorry for guys that lament being with a woman who treated them badly. i mean, you should have known, right? people always show off their worst traits and habits to their prospective partners right away, right? after all, it's not like there are any men out there who have special communities where they join together to talk about how to 'train' and trick the women they so despise into doing what they want, anonymously, just so they can get laid and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 03:45 PM
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is there a hierarchy of vows, though? i also remember 'to love and to care for' being in there somewhere, but TRPers seem to only care about death and sickness... so if someone isn't loving and caring for their partner... they broke their vows first (if we're even making it a competition, which is stupid). it doesn't mean that divorce shouldn't still be given a lot of thought, or that alternatives to solve conflicts shouldn't be attempted first, but there are more vows and promises made than jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 03:38 PM
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yeah, this just sounds like a story of a mentally ill person (which is sad; I'm not saying that as an insult). i don't think it's a representative example of marriage at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 01:53 AM
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it depends. is that question coming from a woman looking for an ONS, or someone looking for something more serious? this seems like an odd question to come from someone just looking for a hook-up. if they are looking for something more, then that would be why. it it seems awfully forward and potentially rude, to be honest, but it also seems to me that someone would ask this question to determine if they shared the same values with another person, and confirm whether or not that person was willin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 06:32 AM
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i would make sure to report this and include a reason, if you haven't been already; i know the mods often say that things like this aren't reported and therefore aren't actioned. there are some people who think that reporting is 'weak' for some reason... but don't. report it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 10:44 PM
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so you're saying TRP is the same as those sites? i think someone else also asked this in response to one of your comments. i already know what i think of TRP... but it's interesting that you are mentioning xojane and jezebel as an equivalent thing that someone should be questioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 09:00 PM
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drawing, writing, reading comics/manga, toy-collecting, learning new languages, traveling (now an interest, soon a hobby-ish thing!), teaching myself to code, tattoos, and recently, trying to be a better/more adventurous cook. also, trying lots of different alcohols. i have a pretty low tolerance, but i love beer and tasting different wines/liquors, so i still have drinks every now and then for the taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 02:41 PM
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seriously, him posting that video was a huge mistake. secret's out now; we don't even have to hide it anymore. watch out men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 01:00 PM
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1) female. 2) honestly, i probably wouldn't date them. 3) well i have a pretty nice hypothetical salary, so that makes paying for things easier. but even then, it would probably become frustrating at some point, to have our activities limited like that. 4) no, no marriage/LTR. i don't care that much about physical attraction, so if i just thought the guy was hot, that really wouldn't do enough for me. i'd also never want to lead someone on who had such strong feelings for me, knowing it was goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 08:21 PM
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the best part is the commenters that deny there's any truth to the picture... and then proceed to post comments that mirror things right in that very comic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 04:04 PM
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If there was a reason to do so, and I thought I was saving my marriage by doing so I would. TRP, where scaring your partner into thinking you're cheating on them or leaving them for someone else is saving the marriage. honestly, if you have to do that, i can't imagine there's much left to save at that point. oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 03:59 PM
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echoing /u/wombatinaburrow... i would trust him. i would probably let him know if i reached a certain level of discomfort, but that aside, i'd trust him. and if he turned out do be untrustworthy in the end (for the sake of this thread) then, good riddance. he would no longer have worth to me as a partner if he cheated; i wouldn't want anything to do with him, and i'd be better off for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 01:12 PM
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anyone who hasn't seen comments from people online just like the ones in the image needs a reality check, actually. but you're one of the people who says stuff like that, so i guess i can't really expect you to recognize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 12:39 PM
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it's sad how much of this i've seen in this very sub. sadly, i also think it covers a lot of anti-feminists that i see online. as far as i can tell, they really are just as bad as some of the radfems people complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:06 AM
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i don't even know what you're talking about at this point. your thread had no content but i answered the title. you commented nothing but wikipedia articles at me so i glanced at it and realized it wasn't worth my time to keep reading. seriously, what is with the trolls and shit-stirrers this week? poor quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:01 AM
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i don't see the problem with the women asking if the guys were cute or not; i think it's fine for them to ask without having to provide a picture of themselves, depending on how it was done anyway. i agree with you regarding those women posting and sharing pictures of the guys, though; terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 02:22 AM
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all you did was post two wikipedia links, which i glanced at (giving my response the same amount of effort that was put into your comment). i'm assuming it's a complaint about my comment, otherwise you wouldn't have posted it. i answered the question in the subject of this post the only way i could, though, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 12:56 AM
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it's a shame you aren't saying that because you actually understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 12:35 AM
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be upset all you want. i'm not going to say all women do or all women don't because neither are accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 12:09 AM
4

it's also not real, so there's that, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 11:47 PM
0

ah, you may be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 10:58 PM
5

were you ever a 16 year old girl? no? ah, so that's why we're able to actually speak to what 16 year old girls are like, and you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 10:58 PM
3

nah, i meant what i said. it's not necessary for anyone else to speak for me, least of all you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:45 PM
3

yeah, i definitely remember some guys like this coming into my place of work, and being way too forward. gross. the only men who want this are men who can't make it with women their own age/with any kind of world experience, because... those women aren't impressed. how sad (but not really).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:34 PM
2

history. grow up, or get a time machine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:28 PM
1

but that idea makes him sad :(
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:27 PM
1

how ignorant, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:22 PM
2

why do you even care? were you really that bored?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:19 PM
2

can we pleeeeease add 'why is it wrong that i want to bang 16 year olds?' to the banned threads/subjects list? they rarely result in any kind of constructive/productive discussion, and in almost every case the threads are started by a bored troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:18 PM
1

do you believe abstinence-only sex ed is effective? and do you think sex between teenagers is the same as sex between a teenager and someone 40 years older than them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:05 PM
4

Something being an in built sexual preference doesn't mean it's in built for every single person in existence. but you are advocating for all men to have this freedom when it comes to underage girls, yes? based on what you believe is normal and natural? i mean if you really can't tell the difference between two consenting partners in a homosexual relationship and a 50 year old prowling around schools and teen hangouts for 16 year olds... there's probably no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 08:58 PM
1

you said being a pedophile is a built in sexual preference. here, let me quote it for you: BPs think merely being a pedophile is not ok but are absolutely ok with homos despite both of them being in built sexual preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 08:51 PM
2

TIL all men are built to be pedophiles, but they're just hiding it. where would we be without RP teachings?!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 08:40 PM
8

irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 08:32 PM
2

somehow that seems impossible... but then again i haven't really looked into that in a while. i seem to remember it being 17 though. edit: a quick search also told me 17. don't know why it's not there. edit: someone is so upset with this law that they downvoted me to negatives. nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 08:23 PM
0

sometimes. some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 08:20 PM
11

i'm pretty sure women here openly and regularly encourage men with this type of mindset to stay away from us. not a loss to be sad about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 07:09 PM
3

who attacked you, and how? were they attacking you, or just the ideas you presented? was there name-calling from anyone aside from you in this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 01:16 PM
0

i don't need to defend anyone; you're having an extreme reaction to people commenting here, and i'm pointing it out because it's not helping you (and lately, there seem to be a lot of people on both sides doing this). you can't even talk about the other discussions you've had here without calling another redditor a bitch and outlining all the awful things they did that you didn't like. if you're going to act like that, people are probably going to dismiss you even if you touch on something they …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 05:18 AM
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we get it; you really believe in RP stuff. however, there are people here who strongly don't. you're free to try and provide an example, but most of the time the studies and surveys posted here can be interpreted in a number of ways. what counts as 'proven' to you isn't considered 'proven' to someone else. if you're at the point where you're calling people dumb ditzes or dunces for disagreeing with you and not replying the way that you want them to, the debate is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 04:54 AM
1

it doesn't matter why. i'm saying, you don't have to deal with any of it if you don't want to. it's a debate sub; people will have thoughts that clash with your own. if that bothers you to this degree, you should probably step back.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 03:58 AM
2

just pointing this out: you don't have to entertain any beliefs. you seem really upset in this thread (based on the way you're attacking other people), but you definitely don't have to do any of it if it's such a nuisance or inconvenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 03:53 AM
1

yes! ah, now i just want pink in my hair again. any kind of pink. even hot pink. haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 09:01 PM
2

everyone knows hot topic is all about the clip-ins anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 09:00 PM
2

hm :/ i'm pretty pale too. but then again, my hair was naturally pretty dark to begin with so maybe it just seems normal to me. i would say give it a shot if it wasn't a little tough to remove... but. if it makes you feel better... i always wanted to try pastel pink hair and never could, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 08:53 PM
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haha, ah, yeah... i do miss changing it more often. black is far less maintenance, but i'm itching to change it again...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 08:38 PM
0

gotta be the wig. but be careful... don't wear it for too long, or around too many men... (seriously though, that sounds awesome! i hope you do.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 08:30 PM
2

oh man. good thing i dyed mine black then. who knows what would have happened. edit: one more thing to be relieved about, that my hair can or would be a TRPer repellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 08:22 PM
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according to TRP, every divorce is made flippantly, without a second thought and for a completely frivolous reason. unless it's a man leaving a woman, and then no matter what, it's justified because all women take their divorcing husbands for all the money and 'prizes' they can get. even the child support, which they spend on manicures and handbags while their children starve in the basement. their views on marriage are ludicrous and lacking in knowledge of how most people conduct their relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 02:48 PM
1

yeah, that part is still baffling to me, that at least outwardly they seem to care so little for themselves. you can care for yourself without being unable to care for your partner; it really is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 02:23 PM
1

and what happens when the rough patch is too rough? tough shit? no, i don't believe that. i agree that marriage is a decision that should be made carefully and with a lot of thought, so that it lasts. but, you can do everything 'right' and still encounter problems or failures. it happens, and i don't think anyone should stay in a marriage if they know it won't work, and it's over.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 09:48 PM
7

maybe your brethren should stop complaining about how they're not understood or liked then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 06:31 PM
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you care so little... that you had to make a post just to tell us all about it. okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 06:23 PM
2

well there's nothing about love in marriage, right? but, in sickness and in health? so, there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 04:00 PM
2

Lol, ugh.. Look, marriage is about commitment!! Not love. ah, such a romantic! haha. you should tell more people you meet about how marriage has nothing to do with love. people love hearing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 03:13 PM
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i don't know why anyone would care whether or not you're against marriage. it's totally up to you, and has an effect on really, no one. i guess it would depend on whether or not she worked, if she would be keeping the children, etc. my knowledge of the legal nitty-gritty of divorce is limited, since i've never had a need to look further into it. if she gave up her job to support him from home during their marriage, then alimony seems fair. if she's keeping the kids and will be supporting them, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 03:08 PM
2

i know, right! and if that fails, as an alternative, everyone should just stop dating, getting married, or even talking to someone that won't be in their lives until death. clearly, you're a terrible person if you let any person leave your life, for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 02:26 PM
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yeah, this wasn't an example of someone just bailing though. it was obvious that they were together for a long time, decided to get divorced because they no longer wanted to be together. by all appearances, it sounds like it was a fair and amicable split as well. there are people who get divorced with less thought and time, sure. but i don't think it's accurate to say that all divorces are like that. this one certainly doesn't seem like it was. and really, i don't want to hear about how non-RPer…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 02:24 PM
2

do you believe the couple in this story suddenly decided to get divorced one day, without a second thought? do you think that they never believed that they were in it for the long haul, and wanted to be together? do you think that they got married with the intention of getting divorced? or, even simpler, have you ever wanted something, truly believed in it, put everything you had into it genuinely, and then failed or lost heart in it? if you haven't, that's pretty lucky and extraordinary. i thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 02:21 PM
3

good lord. you don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 12:35 PM
2

this is sort of what i was torn about, with this question. women who are strong and independent are great. women who spend all their time telling people they're strong and independent? often, less so. it definitely depends on the source (and to a degree, the interpreter).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 04:21 AM
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it wasn't an excuse. it was a valid reason, they no longer wanted to be together. it happens sometimes, even if you still care about each other, you can fall out of love and being together no longer makes sense. it doesn't mean that you didn't honestly believe in your vows when you said them. sometimes, even if you're together for a while and do grow together, it just doesn't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 02:32 AM
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obviously it was there at one point, and went away over time. it happens, people change. no one can tell the future; their divorce doesn't mean that love and sincere vows were never there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 02:07 AM
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lol. okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 01:17 AM
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what was the point of this, honestly? no one cares whether or not you get married; it's a choice that's completely up to the individual. those who didn't believe in marriage still won't, and those that do will see through your weak attempt to make marriage look like a bad deal. so... what were you even trying to achieve?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 12:59 AM
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do you know anything about divorce, and how it works? i haven't done much research, and even i know that it just doesn't work like that. it's not 'she wants out, and gets everything she wants, no questions asked." you do know how these posts are just causing people to be less and less likely to take you seriously, don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 12:35 AM
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yeah, you seem to have made up a lot of stuff that isn't there. they were mutually interested in the divorce, and it ended well for everyone. next.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 12:25 AM
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basing this on the part of the article i read and your summary (because the article is kind of long)... This "one" special marriage went on for about 25 years without any hitch. The man did everything right including financial support, emotional support, taking care of kids, etc. the article also said that he was on board with the divorce. Interesting, this "long term married female" checked out the numbers before marriage. Women are very cold and calculating before divorce. They determine their…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 12:20 AM
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was it highly upvoted? did most of the users commenting praise the post? you read all of RPW's posts, apparently, so you should know the answer to that. RPers keep bringing up the sidebar like it's the only thing you're allowed to be judged by, or the only indicator of what you believe in. what makes you think that the posts in your sub aren't up for criticism or don't reflect the beliefs of your community?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 09:06 PM
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i think they have the 'caring for your partner' thing right (and for some reason, they think non-RPW women don't do that). i think that being mindful of how you approach problems and how you 'mesh' with the other person in your relationship is important, and can be really helpful; i don't follow RPW, but it's just good sense. but it needs to go both ways and it doesn't require you to become something lesser than your partner; the idea that it should be one-sided or that you should be less import…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 04:42 PM
2

no, yes, yes. most people have someone out there stronger than them; holding such an incident against him seems pretty unfair. while it's nice having someone stronger around, i've never thought i was owed protection or made that a reason for being with someone so... if he couldn't protect me, that would be okay. sounds like you're just making up all these laughing women, tbh. if you've seen just a few, leave it at that. most people don't feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 02:08 PM
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i know! frustrating. anything with an even slightly scoop/relaxed neckline almost immediately becomes risky to wear too, IME. at least v-necks still look good with a tank or cami underneath...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 12:43 AM
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why would it be funny to you, a TRP follower? as TRPers always say... it's not meant for you. you wouldn't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 12:36 AM
1

here you go. jokes aside, i'm at work so while i can post the occasional comment, not really cool with looking up busty women in turtlenecks. i'm sure there are plenty to find with Google though. for a different example, though, i think this outfit is perfectly appropriate, but would definitely bring attention to the chest of a bustier woman. edit: apparently there are lots of articles about it too, like this one here. all of the pictures i was seeing before bordered on NSFW... bleh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 08:18 PM
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A woman with an hourglass shape and big breasts in a turtleneck might as well be wearing a "please stare at my tiiiiiits!" sign around her neck. Certain body types are harder to cover up/desexualize and I think it would be nice if men were conscious of that. really great comment... and this is so true. i'm only moderately busty, but i still can't button up some shirts all the way or wear turtlenecks :( which makes me sad, because i think they're a comfortable but nice thing to wear in the workpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 07:39 PM
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well, at least as i understand it, it's not okay because the office is a more formal setting. you aren't at a nightclub, so why dress like it? it's the same reason i don't argue completely against certain school dress codes. i think it can be distracting, if it's too much. it can make people uncomfortable. it brings up questions about the worker's commitment to professionalism, and depending on how other people react to it (because some people are just idiots) it might even potentially cause con…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:55 PM
2

in a workplace environment with a casual dress code, do women have an obligation to avoid baring their shoulders, exposing bra straps etc., and showing cleavage? If so, where do you draw the line? Should they be fully covered? Why should we treat that minimal skin exposure in such a sexual way? personally, i think bare shoulders are fine (think this) but showing bra straps or cleavage seem inappropriate. it's a little sloppy, and not really the right attire for the setting. i feel the same way a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:39 PM
2

this. thank you for saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:09 PM
3

ah, you even rolled a humblebrag into that one. kudos. housewives aren't slaves, you and i agree on that. however, he described basically wanting a slave. not housewife. slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 04:34 AM
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sad. welp, don't complain if you're criticized for it. you probably will be, and not just on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 04:31 AM
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seconded; great answer (as well as what Petticoat said).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:04 AM
2

very creative, could use some work though. in time, it will fit in just fine with the other works of fiction mentioned elsewhere in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 12:10 AM
4

i don't see why not. so long as the scholarships etc. in question mirror what's available to women I don't see any immediate problems with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 12:06 AM
3

if you think what he described is what a housewife is, you have a very different definition from the rest of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 12:02 AM
6

what does this even mean? someone doesn't love you unless they serve you? that seems like a pretty warped definition of love, and might explain a lot, if this is the general view that RPers have about what love is (and interestingly enough, i see nothing being offered in return for everything being demanded).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 10:50 PM
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from the comment above alone, i seriously doubt that would be the case here. by servant i meant less of a butler and more of a slave, than a butler/maid, which seems to be the only single person who could possibly meet all of those requirements (and then, only because anything that made them an individual or human was pretty much stripped away).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 10:26 PM
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i think the flaw in this is that the OP already assumes men don't value commitment, and only care about women for the purpose of getting laid. that might be true in some circles, but in many of them, it isn't. people look for both companionship and intimacy, and eventually end up getting it, and live happily ever after etc. etc. i don't think anyone in this thread will really end up seeing eye to eye, because our realities are completely different. that probably rings true for this entire sub, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 09:37 PM
1

i still don't know what you're talking about but if it makes you feel better somehow... sure. okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 08:47 PM
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so, a servant? there are dolls, prostitutes, and maids. much easier for those who have this odd need to be someone's 'master' and quite frankly, more likely. but really, if you wouldn't do this for another person, i don't know why you would think you're owed that by anyone else (and it's apparent that some men believe that they are owed).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:55 PM
2

i don't disagree with you, necessarily, but i don't see what that really has to do with what i said, or how it would counter my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:50 PM
2

yeah... i wish it would be equally acknowledged how frequently those things are made fun of and criticized, when they're brought up. haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:27 PM
1

no, no live-in girlfriend/girl friend. though, when i first moved in with my now-husband, his roommate had a few girlfriends over the period of time he lived there, and they were pretty cool. obviously, i have a mother. my parents didn't really come to mind since i don't see them much, but they're more of a couple that snipes at each other occasionally, rather than having a single guilty party. not saying it doesn't happen; from how he describes it, my husband's first wife was like that. i just …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:25 PM
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i think being in a relationship with someone in the military also makes things pretty different. i've never been with someone in the service, but from the people and relatives i know who have been, it is a little different from the norm in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:49 PM
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what i'm saying is that the commitment would be empty (in my opinion, and probably that of most women). his commitment is still to himself, in that case. he doesn't care who it is, he just wants to get laid. it's self-serving. i guess that would still, in the end, result in more commitment but only in a sterile/legal sense. i think most women (and people in general) are looking for companionship, not someone to sign a contract with and be used by.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:18 PM
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marrying someone just so you can get laid seems like a pretty crappy alternative, though. i can't imagine anyone who would want to be at the altar with someone who's thinking 'well, i won't get any otherwise, so i guess you'll do...'
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:05 PM
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i feel like i see this more in television or movies than in real life... but then again i don't hang around people who would act like that, and i don't pay that much attention to couples when i'm out and about. that being said, it does sound pretty terrible (there's a reason i don't hang out with anyone who's like that). i've read articles about marriage in other cultures being strained for things like that (fwiw). it doesn't seem smart to me to have one half of the couple always be wrong or alw…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:03 PM
1

yeah, you're right. no one in the history of the world has ever suggested that a woman was at fault for being attacked by a man. that sounds like our history.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 04:42 PM
1

it's probably more common on reddit; i was pleased to see that the comments were more supportive on the NYT article about steubenville (though more politically conservative websites would no doubt have a far more hateful comments section). i'm sure you can find comments of this nature pretty easily on TRP/MRA subs; it's still a common thought/question that people have, so i don't believe that you've never seen it. you may not react the same since they're not directed at you, but you know what we…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 03:16 PM
1

um... everyone. just look at the comments section of stories about it; you'll find plenty (though i imagine any moment now an RPer will pop up to say it too).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:20 PM
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if someone is an adult who is capable of thinking rationally therein lies the problem... red pillers don't believe women can do this. they truly believe women are stupid and inferior (among other things), which is really fun to remember when you see a rant on a different day about how sneaky and devious women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 12:53 AM
1

ha, wow. your responses are a trip. i'll give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 10:42 PM
3

probably wouldn't bother me, and we have a decent age gap so that in particular makes it more normal for us anyway. i mean i guess it depends on his reason for saying this; if they're just being insensitive for no reason then that would be a problem. however, even if we were closer in age, our lives were totally different then so i see no real reason to get upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 10:36 PM
4

non-red-pill woman, married. i would be angry, and likely would report them to the police. that's a major violation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 09:49 PM
0

No, but we were talking about what group hates sluts the most that's not what i was talking about. I'd say the average worldwide opinion of sluts is similar to TRP's. and you'd be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 09:22 PM
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what are you making this personal for? i never said i was offended by anything. i said that the insults /u/ozymandias271 was referring to were usually fueled by the same 'feelz' you said their reaction was all about. please try reading comments before responding next time. and you can say all you want that you feel nothing, and that nothing exists to you on the internet, or whatever it is you're getting at, but no one's impressed by that. your responses show your emotions just fine, regardless o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 09:19 PM
3

would that group be considered most people, or is it just an example you conveniently picked to make TRP look better by comparison? come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 08:05 PM
4

pretty sure 'feelz' is what fuels those insults in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 08:02 PM
0

i've never seen the same level of disdain anywhere but TRP/RP subs... i don't think most people care enough to hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 07:19 PM
5

TRP deals entirely with monogamous LTR's and marriages. isn't TRP pretty much against both of those things? i rarely see them advocating for either. in fact, they argue pretty strongly against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 06:17 PM
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hate? pretty strong word. i don't think so. i've never seen the same level of disdain anywhere but TRP/RP subs. they may get judged elsewhere, but i don't think most people care enough to hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 06:15 PM
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i'm pretty sure she asked to move on (or agree to disagree) several comments back. goodness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 04:24 PM
1

ah, maybe it wasn't so clear. in my experience... he would be less likely to be turned down. i'm not bothered if my husband (gently) initiates now after being together so long, but in the early stages of our relationship i preferred he ask in some way, at least. i'm not really a heat of the moment type person in general, so if you're thinking something more pushy and frantic... i would turn that down even now, if he just suddenly got grabby. i don't know if you were looking for personal opinions…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 12:41 PM
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yes, and i don't see it making me any less likely to do it today. i mean, i guess i'd be surprised and wonder why he asked (and maybe worry a little at the sudden question) but that's because we've been together for 6 years and can read each other pretty well to determine if the moment is right or not. at least the way we are now, i would consider the acceptance of a no more important than asking for a yes. he gets it; i'm into him, in many ways. in a newer relationship where that level of comfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 06:01 PM
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it happens to everyone. it doesn't just happen to men; don't kid yourself. it didn't help OP's case, though, so i pointed it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 03:35 AM
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what a welcoming way to pose this question. i'm sure women will feel really comfortable talking about their struggles now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 07:14 PM
1

i'm sure you can draw a decent conclusion about what would happen in this case from the past cases that you read. you certainly make such predictions about women in all other cases, so that same thought process can be applied here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 06:47 PM
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but TRPers do care... in fact, that might be all they care about, from what the sub seems to say. besides, i've only seem sighs of relief on the rare occasions that TRPers tell women they don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 04:17 PM
1

hey, doubt away. it makes no difference to me what you believe. i'm just saying, you can find them if you want to. no one said that they actually happened in this case yet, but they're out there and they've been discussed on this very sub. i don't really believe you're unaware but clearly that's the impression you're trying to give, so... just showing you the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 04:14 PM
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seriously, all you have to do is perform a google search for 'feminist threats'. there are any number of reasons they receive them, and they're often pretty violent and hateful. you don't have to wait. you can look for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:21 PM
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yeah, pretty much. and what he states is a valid concern; she might leave. if roles were reversed, a man might leave too. that's a tough situation. i guess i can't speak for the other women he knows, but, seems understandable to me. i just don't care about swaying the opinion of someone who already doesn't want to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 12:34 PM
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you're right; i wouldn't ever listen to or continue listening to a comedian who made a 'joke' like that. if you can't get attention without talking about raping or killing someone, you're just a shitty comedian.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:29 PM
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what are you talking about? all i said was that someone who expresses those views is not someone i want to waste any time on, in response to what Atlas said. i don't need to do anything more to support that 'claim'. it's my opinion. i remember seeing the comment /u/goatismycopilot referred to (if i'm not mistaken), but i couldn't find it even after looking through that particular commenter's recent comment history. maybe because they deleted it; i don't know. i'm really not that reddit savvy. yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:03 PM
1

the comment i was responding to didn't mention or request that in any way, so i don't know why it's surprising that i didn't pre-emptively link to it; i was responding to that particular comment only, and i'm not the same person you were replying to above.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:33 PM
9

wow all of that happened to you?! you must have some stories! please, do tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 03:25 PM
4

it is possible to say outrageous things without having to involve rape or violence. seriously, what a disgusting thing to even think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 02:47 PM
1

so? also not surprising. girl decides an ONS is okay, picks a hot guy who shows interest. nothing new...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 04:19 AM
5

indeed, indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 03:23 AM
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i've never met someone who repeatedly ranted about how horrible women are and constantly talked about ways or reasons they can/should be murdered. if i had, i would stay far far away. there's nothing sane or humorous about that kind of outlook, regardless of whether or not women are the target.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 03:16 AM
1

why are you so mad
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 06:27 PM
1

thank you... someone else mentioned that looking up these pictures was fun, and, it totally was. haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:52 AM
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woman, i did more than 2. oh well; did my best. i had a hard time finding/narrowing down pictures of regular guys so i went with celebrities in the end... note: some take offense to 'average' but i think all of them are cute, and average isn't bad :) . average: 1 2 3 4 5 hot: 1 2 3 4 5
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 01:37 AM
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ah, what a bunch of cuties :) i didn't see the point in posting my own... but i've enjoyed seeing what everyone else has had to say. edit: may add mine later, but this is all so subjective that it feels like it hardly matters...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 09:13 PM
2

ah, walken <3 we like the same type.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 06:29 PM
4

rewritten... how is this a real success for jerks/point in favor of being a jerk if she didn't know he was a jerk when she agreed to hook up, and he couldn't even perform? i don't really think most people here would debate that personality comes second to looks when it comes to hookups. it's not that weird that for hookups, a less than nice guy might land an ONS by pretending to be nice. you're taking jabs at a point that most people here wouldn't argue with, and somehow claiming triumph for som…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 03:15 PM
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nah, it's much more reasonable to want them to suffer and then commit suicide... sigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:08 PM
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oh man, this is great. she left, because he couldn't get the job done and contrary to how he had originally appeared, he was a jerk. he wasn't 'over with her', she left because it became clear it was a waste of her time and energy to stay. he didn't 'get' her because he was a jerk; that's what made her walk away. you may want to reconsider your goals if you read that story and thought 'yeah, what a successful guy!' aside from that, it doesn't prove anything that you claimed it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:06 PM
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you do, or you wouldn't keep posting this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 01:47 PM
7

who said anything about assholes being successful? if i remember correctly, in the article, the women left as soon as they realized the guy wasn't as advertised. guys who are not you =/= assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 01:46 PM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 04:59 AM
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just saying, most of them seem fine with it. not all, of course, but plenty of women are happy with the 'result' of having casual sex. so i agree, good for them for getting what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 04:29 AM
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personally, i don't see much of a difference in their actions/decisions, except now these women aren't subjecting themselves to crappy experiences for any longer than they need to. OP is the one somehow saying this is worse, but without really explaining how or why. yet another outburst.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 03:47 AM
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good, so this must mean we can stop seeing threads like this pop up for no reason. some people agree, some people have ONS/HNS. done.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:49 AM
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great, so again, this was pointless. everyone here is already agreeing with you, and somehow, you're still outraged about... something. welp. can't be helped i guess. some people just...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:37 AM
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where.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:34 AM
3

you mean the non-RP who are here agreeing with you that this is a thing that exists, and not a surprise?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:34 AM
2

i'm pretty sure this just makes you seem potentially abusive and excited to hurt a woman and/or someone weaker than you. self defense is one thing, this post is something else entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:33 AM
4

not really. nothing has changed by you posting this. not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:24 AM
8

hey, ditto for some men. those people exist; it's nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:23 AM
8

cool... maybe you should have posted this in a thread where they're already all engaged in a discussion about it. i know, i know. much less fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:10 AM
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goodness. are you talking about that survey? that poster made it really clear that they were just getting opinions, and explicitly pointed out the flaws in their methodology (repeatedly, because even when they were saying it, RPers continued pointing it out despite just having being agreed with). if you wanted to point this out, you should have done it in that thread; this was pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:08 AM
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she wanted something, and didn't get it. so, she left. regardless of my opinion on ONS, still not seeing a difference from the norm here. if he can't, he can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:03 AM
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yeah, from the stories, most of them left because the hookup failed. literally failed. could not do it. not all of them, but reading the article, it sounds like some of them didn't even get that far. and hey, if those things are important to them and they aren't getting it from someone they aren't really attached to... what's the problem? aren't RPers always saying that if things are bad, the women should walk away? well, they did. and, RPers make no hesitation to leave if they don't get everyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 01:59 AM
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Just when you thought the ONS/Cock Carousel culture couldn't get worse, these sluts are getting banged out by a "hot frat guy" or some other "hot guy" during their peak years. unnecessary outrage aside... isn't the point that they're leaving before this happens, at least in some cases? and they're the ones doing the dumping, rather than the men (as you seemed to suggest above). you should be glad, if anything; they're demanding more. having higher standards, and being more selective. isn't that …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 01:53 AM
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... it can be exactly how the comment above you explained it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 07:37 PM
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definitely. personally, i even go so far as to make sure to only play video games or read manga and comics when men are watching, to let them know who that culture really belongs to. seriously, is it such a foreign idea that women might also have genuine interest in things related to nerd culture (which by the way, is pretty mainstream now)? goodness. yes, there are women who have complaints about some elements of some games. i don't think that equates to a total take-over of so-called nerdy thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 06:28 PM
6

my thoughts exactly... how many times... sigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 03:18 PM
4

i didn't think it was non-PC until i came to this sub... but i prefer someone with an income close or equal to mine, i've realized. it's not the end of the world if that doesn't happen... but it seems that it would limit some of the things we could do or enjoy together if one partner (either, honestly) made much less than the other. edit: to clarify, i don't think of this as non-PC, but some people have been really offended that this is a thing, in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:00 PM
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i mean, he already knows about the endless flaps... can't imagine what might happen if he figures out the rest of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:02 AM
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Have you ever actively wanted casual sex instead of a relationship? no. Have you ever actively wanted to sleep around as opposed to being with one solid partner? no. i might have considered the possibility of both of the options above, especially after a tough breakup, but in the end, i knew it just wasn't for me. Have you ever had sex with a guy, or been intimate / dated him in some respect, wanted a relationship, but ultimately been rebuffed because he was unwilling to commit? If not, do you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:23 PM
2

it seems like there's a lot of strange power ascribed to non-RP people, and/or women, to be honest. we're outliers, yet somehow, also totally normal and within the guidelines or rules of how TRP says people are. we are, and also, are not. we explain 'RP', but live 'BP'. we're incompetent, yet highly dangerous. we are to be treated as loaded guns, always, and you never know when one of us is waiting around the corner to get the drop on you. maybe i really do need some kind of the nefarious plan t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:29 AM
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i've only heard these used positively, so, positive. i think there are definitely ways they can be used negatively but i rarely hear it, so i think of those phrases as positive things. boyfriend/husband is more appealing to me than ONS, so that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 11:10 PM
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it definitely shows how foreign they see some relationships, or maybe just certain experiences, i think... it's honestly so unlikely in my marriage that answering it is really tough. decisions come up, and we work through them. the end. the only kind of person i can think of having this kind of disagreement with is someone who is my opposite at their very core... and either i wouldn't be with such a person long enough to come to a really serious decision, or we'd just break it off. granted this …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 10:55 PM
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it's not impossible, but i don't think it's particularly common (and definitely not a given). a lot of people tend to stay within their age range. my husband is a decade older than me, and we're definitely unusual among our friends in that regard (and it was something of an obstacle, maybe? that we had to consider in the early days of our relationship).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 05:30 PM
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can we safely assume that? i don't think so. and if you're using your size and strength to get someone to do something, you're still working off of fear and intimidation. still not okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 12:59 PM
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i'm sad i missed the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 07:36 PM
1

ah, i see. well, you're probably right. i doubt that's much different from any other sub. i see it in other places too, though i still think they (and i suppose everyone) could stand to use better examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 03:03 PM
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perhaps so, but if that's the case... and i don't mean this rudely... that's really weak, and sounds like ideas that are just cobbled together on a whim. you're grabbing at straws, at that point, just looking for any tidbit that maaaaaybe might match what you're thinking (or hoping) is true. and i get it; there was a stretch of time where i did the same thing, because it was easy and i needed to recover from some things before putting effort into challenging my thoughts. but there's no progress …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 02:48 PM
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finding an example that's more representative of the general population? if you're asking if women cheat and you go looking for answers where known cheaters congregate, you're going to be able to prove your point but there's no reason for anyone to take you seriously because you went straight to a place where cheaters get together to find your answer. the concentration of cheaters in an adultery sub is going to be way higher than other places, so while you can prove that women who cheat exist, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 02:22 PM
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you can report and message them, you know...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 02:07 PM
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for another example... there was a thread here not long ago essentially asking if all women cheat (passively asserting that they do), and a thread from an adultery subreddit was linked as a source/evidence. not something just thrown out in a general relationships sub or website, but a thread from a place where adulterers go to talk about cheating. naturally, if you go looking for evidence of women cheating in an adultery sub, you're going to find it. if you do a google search for 'unhappy marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 02:06 PM
1

yeah, it's definitely a pretty angry place now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 01:06 AM
2

thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 01:05 AM
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then you just clarify or correct them... a lot of people aren't even going to bother reading this at all due to the length and attitude of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 12:38 AM
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there's a lot less room for disagreement and differing opinions than there used to be, and i feel like it's recently become a little more mean-spirited than it was when i first stumbled upon the sub. i think some are a little too willing to believe obvious trolls, as well. i don't have any complaints about non-RP views on relationships, but the reasons above are why i don't really like or visit the sub as much anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 11:06 PM
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clearly, TRP does.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:11 PM
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you would be right, if i was talking about the particular post linked in the OP. i'm not, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:10 PM
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i didn't read the post in question, but... even if there is meaningful content in a post, (general) you are responsible for how it's presented and there's no immunity from criticism if it's done poorly (and more often than not, any true content on TRP is shrouded in a lot of hate). the presentation of a message absolutely has an effect on how that message is conveyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 04:07 PM
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i don't know what anyone expected. a lot of non-RPers aren't into casual sex, OP has made it clear that he just wants one, very specific answer to satisfy himself (which there's no guarantee anyone will be able to provide) on top of the fact that he's a fairly hostile member of the sub. why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 12:11 AM
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then i guess you differ from OP, and are more in line with the non-RPers who report having encountered an RP-minded person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 09:46 PM
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but... also remember... endorsed doesn't mean that you're representative of the RP sub if you say something that one of them doesn't agree with, or that makes them look bad. it is only meaningful... sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 05:41 PM
1

i think i've said in several of my comments that what i've mentioned doesn't apply to every single person who has visited TRP more than once. however, even RPers are quick to note that they're about sexual strategy, tell guys to lift, and advocate going to places where they can make the most approaches possible in order to be validated for a night. so, my original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 05:32 PM
-1

well then i guess you'd be... an outlier :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 04:50 PM
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If they aren't, I wouldn't consider them to be anything remotely approaching the ideal "RP man." honestly, this just reads as "well if they're unsuccessful they're not RP, but if they're successful, totally RP." which is kind of ridiculous (and i think i saw a similar claim somewhere else in this thread). some are successful, some aren't, because despite what RPers want to believe, one thing isn't going to appeal to all people. additionally, RPers seem to want to lay claim to basic concepts that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 04:46 PM
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but... most of the examples are taken directly from the subreddit. i don't know how you can argue that they're made up when they're linked right from the source.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 04:43 PM
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i never said they couldn't be identified; that's what OP said. honestly, i see arrogant and obnoxious behavior promoted all the time at the TRP subreddit so it's not a stretch and even RPers will say that there are RP people who just are and know nothing about the subreddit. so if it looks like an RPer and talks like an RPer... it doesn't apply to all of them, but it definitely applies to some of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 03:40 PM
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1) apparently, RPers and RP-types flock to bars and clubs and gyms. so, if you go to one of those places, it's not unusual that you might run into a guy of that mindset. even if you're not looking for anything but a fun night out or a quick workout, with friends or by yourself (which incidentally, is what the RP guys seem to end up ruining). it also seems like some of the reports mention seeing these guys in the workplace, and most people work, so... doesn't seem that unusual to me that it would…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 02:17 PM
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... because they don't agree with it, obviously, and they think it's stupid (as you've even put in your... quote).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 06:43 PM
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i get the analogy. key, lock, yadda yadda. i think it's dumb. i think the point it's meant to represent is dumb. pointing that out doesn't mean i don't understand it, it means exactly what i said: it's a dumb point, and a dumb analogy. not agreeing with you is not the same as not understanding. people can understand you and disagree with you; i don't know why you would think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 06:22 PM
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no, you're wrong, again. we understand what you're saying with the lock and key, but we don't agree, because it's stupid. thus, the pencil and the sharpener (an equally absurd analogy).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 05:59 PM
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yeah, i'm gonna need at least a week's worth of 24hr recorded interactions, video and audio, to determine if this is actually the case or if it's all just a bunch of smoke. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 05:56 PM
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i'm not going to bother taking the test since this is clearly a 'do this thing, so that we can tell you you're horrible!' kind of request... but i think you've mistaken criticism of the analogies for a lack of understanding. we get it, it's just absurd, so we say so. and for all of RP's 'just be yourself doesn't make any sense!' i don't really think RPers are in any position to tell someone else that they have comprehension problems. edit: you're actually timing and documenting the responses of …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 05:54 PM
1

27.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 03:47 AM
3

my thoughts exactly... bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 01:02 AM
1

this pretty much sums up my answer/relationship as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 04:24 AM
1

at least IMO... have it with someone you like and care for. discuss likes and dislikes. be comfortable with your body, and the person you're with. be willing to try new things, when you feel comfortable with it. also... be able to laugh it off if something silly happens. i've never been into casual hookups though, so some of this may be more applicable to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:12 PM
1

... yeah, let's not pretend that this entire thread wasn't just a chance for OP to be hostile towards anyone responding in disagreement, and an opportunity to make sure eeeeeeveryone knows how much he hates feminism (did you get it, guys? did you see?). there was no intent to have a real discussion, which is why few people are even bothering to give actual responses (seeing how the OP has replied to the few people that did try). there's nothing from OP to take seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 01:40 PM
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what are the benefits of having that person around? what value do they add to (general) my life? sounds like being stuck with them is a pretty miserable situation tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 10:12 PM
2

... except for the part where many of us have shared personal stories of encountering these problems ourselves and getting past them. but we're all just lying and trying to trick you right? can't possibly be that other people have suffered and struggled too, no no no...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 05:17 PM
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not really even remotely realistic for people here, as far as i've observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 04:32 AM
3

what does this have to do with being forever alone, or anything at all
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 03:55 AM
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i have no idea what's going on right now in this thread. haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 03:48 AM
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die alone, obviously. i don't think this really proves anything though. i don't think any women (or most at least) were claiming to be FA here, and... really, again, i don't see what this proves, if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 03:23 AM
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yeah yeah, hands up for me. seriously, i didn't see /u/DStoo say that at all, and this just seems like an emotional outburst following the linked conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 03:11 PM
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But really, what are the potential consequences of overestimation? He asks her out and gets rejected. i suppose. from experience, i guess, i see overestimation guy a lot less likely to 'ask' anything or easily accept rejection (and really, either of these men could end up getting a negative reputation depending on how they go about things). if both men are equally capable of asking someone of interest out and handling rejection normally, then i don't think the distinction between the two would m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 01:14 PM
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well, is he underestimating her interest or believing she's not interested at all? i suppose that would be an important distinction... though even in either scenario, i don't think there's any harm in asking if he's interested (so long as it's done politely, and rejection is calmly accepted, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 01:28 AM
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underestimation, though getting the actual answer can be as simple as asking (so underestimation won't necessarily result in loss). both have their downsides, but i think assuming that you know someone wants you when you really don't can be pretty risky. this answer is ultimately based on what's best for others, but really, that isn't completely separate from what's best for him (so kind of both). it's probably best for him as well as his targets that he doesn't go around assuming women want him…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 01:20 AM
1

you're right. if you made this thread just to dismiss any and every response you received that didn't enthusiastically agree with you, we have nothing else to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:07 PM
2

but what was the context? was there any? did she attack the guy for no reason, or was it a demonstration/test that was agreed to? that matters, a lot. and to be honest, it's just as likely that someone would step in if it was a girl attacking a guy, because that's what people do. if she's small, pulling her off wouldn't be hard. i don't mind this debate but you really need a better example to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 01:12 AM
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Narcissism: 1.4 / 9 Machiavellianism : 2.8 / 51 Psychopathy: 1.4 / 9 probably not totally accurate though; as with the other test, i might agree with an idea i'm asked about (like 'is it helpful to flatter important people?') without actually following it or using it in my own life. oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:06 PM
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the problem isn't that this is a single example; it's that it's not common. it's not an example of something that most people see happening regularly. it's not everyday, and there isn't any context either. I already agreed with you that someone should have stepped in if she just randomly attacked the guy too. don't cry about being unable to take people seriously if you're going to fly off the handle like that when someone replies to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 11:43 AM
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going by the text in the OP but... i don't think this does much to prove that women aren't discriminated against. it's one example of one situation that i hardly think is the norm. unless in self-defense or agreement with the guy, no, there's no reason this should have been allowed to continue. i don't think that really means much in relation to whether or not women are discriminated against, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:53 AM
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i don't hate it, but i keep my clothes/makeup/hair simple because i think other things are more important and worth more of my time. i don't think you have to dress up or wear full makeup to take pride in yourself though; that's just silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 07:11 PM
1

interesting. 66/100.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 01:45 AM
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no, i don't buy the 'women aren't intentionally evil, it's just their natural strategy.' just like i don't buy RPers saying 'i don't hate women for being terrible children, i love them because they can't help it.' that's an excuse, a crutch. something that you tell yourself so that you can feel good while also looking down on women. try again. i think it's important to include things like good hygiene, taking care of yourself (fitness), along with the 'be yourself' advice. an interesting person …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 03:04 PM
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both men and women are brought up with misconceptions about romance etc. it's pretty... well, incorrect to think that this is a thing that only men experience, or that only women are involved in promoting those ideas. i agree that there should be a change, that more realistic things should be taught to young people (which isn't the same as TRP, let me be clear) but you're wrong if you think it's just a big scheme by women, against men. everyone here has probably had the same experience, to a deg…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 02:48 PM
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did i say that? where did i say that? show me. you learn by asking questions, by interacting with people. while you are responsible for seeking answers to your own questions, i don't think that's the same as just figuring it out for yourself. you're not making up answers, you're finding them through the people you talk to, the articles you read. those things are involved too; it's not just you alone. besides, everyone has to learn lessons in life (sometimes, the hard way). there are no exception…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 02:37 PM
2

I heard this ALL THE TIME from EVERYONE growing up. ALL THE TIME. so the things you heard as a young person turned out not to be true, or what you thought? great; join the club. that happened to everyone; it's life. Non RPers say physical attraction plays a big part; but the problem is that that isn't talked about IRL and it is obscured and concealed IRL. There are a lot of men who are specifically taught and trained that women don't care about physical attractiveness; that physical attractivene…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 02:26 PM
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honestly, i've never heard that. i mean it's obvious that he shouldn't be a sobbing mess all the time, but that goes for most people, around everyone. no one, man or woman, wants to spend time around an emotional wreck. that is not what anyone means when they say they want a partner who can comfortably express emotions, which has been explained countless times in threads like this. tearing up at a wedding is normal. crying or having a fit of rage at the drop of a hat is not. that goes for everyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 02:11 PM
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Men need to shut up and not talk so much, especially about their feeeeelings. what a sad thought. i hope that never happens. i have no interest in a man who won't talk to me or express feelings, and i'm hardly alone in that. also, it's pretty unfair to just take anyone's comments and twist them into what you believe (as mentioned in the comments above). seriously, how do you expect to have any kind of real conversation or even debate with someone if that's what you're going to do? you're not eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 02:02 PM
1

my default is usually folksy acoustic type stuff or 90s alternative/rock... but most recently i've been crazy about chvrches' first album and the newest silversun pickups album.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 11:37 AM
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ooh rhys ifans.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:16 AM
2

hm... maybe less weird and more unexpected, but probably Donald Sutherland (weird because of age). everyone else would probably say Louis CK but that makes sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 01:55 AM
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yes, this is truly so common that it warrants a dictionary entry. how you haven't been banned (again) for these kinds of posts is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:40 PM
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better how? the pleasure you seem to be getting from this having happened is really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:37 PM
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well, those men are assholes then. anyone who would laugh at this tragedy is without a doubt, a huge asshole. even if she hadn't died, it's not really a laughing matter. has nothing to do with him being 'beta'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 06:16 PM
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there's no reason that he would be expected to give any explanation, or discuss the matter at all. no employer would require that, that i'm aware of. and i still don't see how that qualifies him as 'beta'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 06:04 PM
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that's not an example of the article in the OP. i want examples of that being a frequent occurrence. prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 05:37 PM
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having a job is beta now? welp, you heard him. better hand in your resignation now men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 05:28 PM
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maybe you should share them since you keep telling everyone how common this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 05:27 PM
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stories posted by complete strangers who have an obvious bias... hm...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 05:19 PM
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this seems like a pretty extraordinary story (headline-worthy, even), so no, i don't think this is the norm. not the partying, or the end result.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 05:00 PM
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this seems like a pretty extraordinary story (headline-worthy, even), so no, i don't think this is the norm. not the partying, or the end result.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 04:11 PM
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this. i even have friends who managed to do both by working from home, and somehow even that is wrong. it's crazy, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 12:28 PM
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... because the definition is everywhere. it took me mere moments to find that with google. you can find that easily without having to ask someone what they particularly think respect is; the definition is well-established. it's just a guess based on some of the other things you've said in this thread and other discussions... but the insistence to ask someone specifically what they think respect means gives the impression a) that they aren't following the dictionary definition and instead have m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 11:04 PM
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that's just a matter of opinion, though. it's really not that hard to remember that there are multiple definitions of respect. there's no guarantee that the person you're talking to isn't thinking of a different (yet valid) definition, so it would be worth knowing the other definitions instead of just saying someone's wrong because they didn't use the exact definition that you did (and this is in general, not to any one person in particular).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 10:54 PM
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going to link the definition every time someone feels the need to ask this. it means a lot of things. it's not just reverence, and it's pretty obvious no one's saying men need to bow down and be reverent to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 10:34 PM
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honestly if you can't see that commenters are advocating disregarding protests and having sex with a woman anyway, you're either not looking or choosing to pretend it isn't there. the comments are very clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 01:57 PM
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i'm not /u/kalerkraut but here, since they can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 01:50 AM
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ooh, you got me there. is calling someone fat really your best? what a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 11:36 PM
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good lord. this again. seriously, how many times do you have to be banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 08:23 PM
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yes, that sounds believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 08:21 PM
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this comment is a decent summary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 06:13 PM
5

i don't see how this is a CMV... but i'll just link this here since it includes a lot of comments that fit the request.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 04:03 AM
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ah. i thought you were referring to men in general, not TRP men alone. i'm not sure i agree with that comment or rather, apply it to everyone associated with RP, but given some of the things i've seen posted at TRP i'm not surprised it's given some that impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 11:23 PM
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can you quote any? i'd be surprised if any of it is comparable to what TRP says about women, or even other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 10:43 PM
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this. even if we say we had similar experiences to them in the past, we're called liars or our experiences are completely dismissed (which makes it hard to keep caring). it makes me wonder if i could share the same stories with a 'red' account and get a different response, just based on that alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 10:03 PM
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this also sounds a lot like that post from a while back, where a guy was friends with a girl and then she lost weight and they went on a spring break trip and she started hanging out with 'chads' instead of him, or something...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 05:54 PM
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well, too bad? that's a part of existing in a society. we all experience it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 03:43 PM
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... are you really comparing awkward men to ISIS? if so, you're on your own there. i didn't say that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 11:56 PM
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it's not too much to ask for people to act like well-mannered, civilized individuals. i think that's a pretty reasonable request/desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 11:05 PM
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you're running through this thread demanding answers and then ridiculing them so... why don't you try proving that you have a better idea than those actually trying to contribute?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:59 PM
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it's sickening to see people cheering on the murder of innocent people, obviously. it's not a shitpost to express that, and i don't appreciate being shouted at for some sort of super-significant answer (really, stop). there were a lot of horrible comments there. it didn't have a deep profound meaning to me. it was just terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 08:54 PM
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jesus, that thread is sickening. sometimes i think the reasons to leave this place just keep growing (at an alarming rate).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 08:05 PM
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if you dont want to take his name why are you even getting married? at least for me, it has nothing to do with my desire to stay with or marry him. i'm already enthusiastically agreeing to do that; done, decided, taken care of. i just don't feel the need to change my name to his because we're legally married. i didn't cease to exist upon agreeing to be his wife. i'm still me. still keeping my name as i want it to be. it has no effect on the legitimacy of our marriage or how our relationship is c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 06:10 PM
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it just seems too convenient that women are being made to look worse than men for cheating; it seems to me like it's something where there should be no contest. also, i've been attacked by you in other threads plenty of times in the past; disagreeing with you and your expressed thoughts is not the same as abusing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 06:08 PM
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upvoted for 'Hippocratic bullshit.'
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 02:36 PM
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Question 1 – Is the above actually true for all (or nearly all) of Blue Pill advocates? Or do some Blue Pill people believe that The Red Pill is inherently wrong, abusive, immoral, etc., by its very nature, and that even if both parties consent to the relationship, it is not an appropriate relationship to have under any circumstance? sure, if both consent, i guess that's fine (within reason, of course). i don't think of traditional relationships and TRP relationships as the same thing, but if so…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 12:00 AM
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great. go have some, and please stop telling me what to do/assuming you know anything about my relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 08:44 PM
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i mean, the motivation matters some; i don't think highly of anyone seeking a specific kind of woman so that they can control them or have someone under their thumb, which sadly seems to be what drives some men to that preference. it's also why i think very-older guys going after teenagers is really weird (among other things). other than that, i don't care, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 08:14 PM
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right. they don't have to explain. they cannot forcibly be made to explain themselves, at least in any normal situation. however, i haven't seen anyone here express that they don't want to explain. some just don't have very specific or complex reasons. it's really not a big deal for most people/couples; this conversation is easy, as the conversation about the name change should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 06:02 PM
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They're saying that though they WOULD explain why they wouldn't have sex to an SO, they WOULD NOT to anyone else why would anyone else need an explanation? this line of thinking is turning strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:52 PM
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agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:28 PM
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there's nothing wrong with people who want to have sex daily, but there's also nothing wrong with saying no if i don't feel up to it. i've been in a relationship where i felt guilty or scared for saying no; im never putting myself through that again. i'm not forcing myself into something if i really don't want to do it, even for something as minor as being tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:52 PM
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it's not the same. but if you read my comments and still don't understand that, you clearly just want to shout and accuse people so we're done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:12 PM
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yeah, i already commented on the 'explanation' thing above. read it again, instead of just furiously commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:03 PM
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why isn't he explaining it, though? why is he keeping a secret from someone he wants to marry? what does he have to hide? why doesn't he think someone he's vowed to marry gets to know his feelings? if he just simply doesn't want to do it, and doesn't have a clear cut reason, why isn't he willing to say that? i don't think it's okay if someone goes about turning down sex in a stubborn/secretive way (in a caring, committed relationship) and i don't think it's okay to approach the name scenario tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:09 PM
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i don't really think it's the same, but whatever. sure. sex = changing your name.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:04 PM
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this is still true; that's how bodily autonomy and consent works. women get to say no, as do men. it's a problem if it's done routinely or spitefully, i think, but the problem in those cases isn't 'women having a right to reject men'. it's the relationship, or the person (either or both), not their ability to reject someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:00 PM
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no? i mean, the reason is typically that i'm tired or just not in the mood, so a reason warranting actual discussion doesn't really come up (that i can think of). if it were something different/more serious, though, then yeah i'd want to talk about it/let him know. to me, being able to have those talks is part of a healthy, loving relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:56 PM
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aside from a troll account, who has actually said that here?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 12:49 PM
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sure. say that, and then keep insulting and attacking anyone who says something not in line with your own values. not trying to trap or 'gotcha' anyone with these posts and comments, nope, not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:46 AM
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are you really just pursuing this topic so that you can get opinions, and then be disrespectful and insulting to the people who hold them? honestly, your comments and posts are always so hostile.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:43 AM
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you know what i'm talking about. what emphasis? the emphasis you just confirmed you used. the situation in your OP is not the same as the comments from the other thread, so if this was meant to prove a point, it failed miserably.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:33 AM
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the only reason he's 'expected' (as you put it) to justify it is because your OP gives the impression that the man is horribly upset or disgusted by the idea of his future wife taking his name. the emphasis you put on his request is strange. if either a man or woman had such an emotional reaction to the subject, i would think it was odd and want to know why they felt that way. you're either missing the meaning of the comments here, or ignoring it and just choosing to believe what you want anyway…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 12:39 AM
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what a neat idea :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 12:10 AM
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ah, i see. well, i think that's a shame. i don't think i'd love it if my boyfriend went out all the time without me and i like getting notice if he's going somewhere; he and i are close, and he likes getting the same from me. but, i don't think i'd ever make him beg, or make him sleep on the couch unless he did something truly horrible though. if that's happening, then yeah, i'd agree that there are problems with that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 11:42 PM
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also fine; i'm one of the ones who doesn't plan on changing my name. if he was so... insistent about it i guess i'd be concerned though (and in cases like that, i wouldn't really blame a man for being worried if his future wife was that... enthusiastic about not taking his name). i don't really think what's being said in this OP is the same as the other thread, though. most of the comments in the other thread were along the lines of "i think i'd like to keep my name." whereas this thread seems t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 11:40 PM
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i didn't watch the video (8 minutes is more than i'm interested in giving up, and honestly, starting to not care for this bill burr guy) so this is just based on the excerpt/post above. in an ideal relationship both partners do nice things for each other (IMO). there should be a balance within the relationship, and this varies from relationship to relationship. i don't really feel like we live in a world where only men work and women stay at home, so it seems unfair to place the responsibility o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 11:27 PM
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I didn't degrade anyone else for choosing not to follow the wife and kids take husband/father's last name tradition. I pointed out the practical effects of women keeping their maiden names. I pointed out what that in effect says to a prospective husband -- it says "I don't really consider you my husband; I consider my family of origin to be more important. If this marriage thing doesn't work out I can always go back to daddy and mommy." THAT is disrespectful; and it's a level of disrespect that …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 11:20 PM
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i think it's fine to keep your own name if that's what you want. i think it's also fine to change your name if that's your thing. i love that either can happen these days. i don't think the decision to keep your maiden name makes you any less married or in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 10:39 PM
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if she knows and doesn't care, then that would be an agreement. if she doesn't want to know, actively wants to avoid that knowledge, don't you think there's a reason she would want to hide? like probably that she doesn't want it to be happening, and knowing about it is painful? seems pretty clear to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 09:18 PM
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er, because some of the treatment women receive is misogynistic. i never said it wasn't; some of it is, some of it's not. i can't think of any examples off the top of my head, but there's probably misandric treatment of men online too; i wouldn't be surprised. my main point is that effort should be put into stopping online harassment for everyone, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:31 PM
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well that's a ridiculous statement, so i guess this is where our agreement ends. oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:28 PM
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agreed; those are just as terrible, and it'd be nice if that was included in this initiative. a death threat is a death threat regardless of who it's aimed at, and IMO, you'd have to be a pretty horrible person to warrant that kind of response (i don't know who thunder foot is, but most people in general don't deserve it). i don't think anyone should have to experience that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:59 PM
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not sad about it. the goal is to stop bullying online, and things like death/rape threats. i see it as less of a feminist-reign thing and more of a, stop harassing people on the internet thing. i didn't read the article so i could have overlooked something but i'd prefer if it were bullying directed at people and not women alone... but at the same time, women have recently been getting attacked online a lot for really, not doing anything at all (certainly nothing that warrants some of the respon…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:30 PM
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hard to say; i'm pretty careful, so the instances are few. i was in a long distance relationship once that i ended pretty abruptly, because i was tired of being lonely. never really made it up to the guy; a clean break seemed best. in the past, i also dated someone i almost immediately wanted to change, and i held on to that hope when i shouldn't have. he was a piece of shit regardless, but that expectation of change wasn't really fair. i used to be a little colder in the relationship i am now, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 12:54 PM
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the OP is a pretty big stretch on its own, and this is even more outlandish. really not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 12:24 PM
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i guess so, though this premise is quite a stretch (making it difficult to say yes absolutely). if i really try to believe that this situation is possible, though, i would probably continue without complaint. i mean, i make some pretty great money, and i did start the adoption process (making me partially responsible). if i'm on great terms with my ex-husband and i've already started the process of giving the adopted child a home, i see no reason not to move forward. i probably wouldn't be thril…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 04:32 AM
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just pointing this out, but... the only real question was in the title, asking what blue pillers think amused mastery is. there weren't really any restrictions on what kind of definition was being sought, so there wasn't any request for it to be neutral or dictionary-quality (and even the few non-BPers who have answered haven't been neutral about their answers either). i think /u/Hawanja has made it pretty clear what they think amused mastery is, which is exactly what was requested in the title …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 04:57 PM
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didn't you make a post just like this not too long ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 07:27 PM
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She is lying and leading him on because while she may believe she's friends, deep down she knows she is being friends with him out of pity and because she does not want to harbor the guilt of making him feel bad. Women are emotionally delicate; they can't handle being assertive and just saying no and dealing with the repercussions of that. so, you're changing what you originally said to suit you, then. got it. I am no longer going to debate with you. You are choosing to ignore the fact that I am…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 05:23 PM
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i'm not talking about the OP, i'm talking about your comments specifically, stating things like: She is not being completely honest when she says let's be friends. When a woman says let's be friends, but then calls the man to talk about her feelings, asks him to help her with homework, cries to him about how badly Chad treats her, she is giving him false hope of the prospect of a relationship with her. So the woman in question genuinely believes that they are good friends, when in fact the pathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 03:52 PM
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the only point at which the woman would be to blame in this situation is if she was aware he had feelings for her, and took advantage of them. you can swap out the man and woman if you like; that wouldn't change anything. if one party is unaware of the feelings of the other and the person with the feelings keeps them hidden, only they are at fault. in the examples provided above, that person needs to examine why such minor interactions with a member of the opposite sex are important, or an indic…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 03:27 PM
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so, pretending this is true... what is the solution? if a guy has hidden feelings and a girl tells him she just wants to be friends and treats him like a friend, but he still believes there's hope, what exactly is a girl supposed to do? never talk to a man unless she's seeking something non-platonic? keep pepper-spray on hand so that any man that approaches her, that she doesn't find attractive, gets the message loud and clear? would this really even work, considering many RPers see 'no, i'm not…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 02:39 PM
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to be fair please, actually say something reasonable and fair. or, don't start sentences with 'to be fair'. one person is not at fault for what other people are saying (if we're to pretend that your comment is true) and if someone adds subtext to 'let's be friends' where there is none, it's an error on the part of the interpreter alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 04:28 AM
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both examples are pretty terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 03:23 AM
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what? your personal preferences don't limit anyone's freedom. i'm having a hard time even taking this thread seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:03 PM
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same; i'm only on tumblr for fandom reasons and i couldn't care less about anything else there. if i see something dumb i ignore it, or unfollow repeat offenders/rebloggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:45 PM
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what does that have to do with what i said? if a person, man or woman, has their own money and chooses not to pick up a partner they have to financially support, well, that makes sense. some people won't want that, and that's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 09:10 PM
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i have no point, just wanted a chance to call women selfish. booyah! understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 05:44 PM
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i don't know what your point is. you're saying you think these women are selfish because of how you specifically view marriage and your marriage with your wife, from what i can tell, but i'm not getting the point of your comments otherwise, if you have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 05:18 PM
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well great. you think differently than they do. so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 05:07 PM
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i don't disagree, but what you're talking about sounds different from what was asked in the survey. it sounds like you're approaching this with your wife in mind, someone you met, clicked with, and already love. that's great, i get that, i live that. but this survey was applied to (presumably) single people who had no such significant other, and had limited characteristics to judge a hypothetical person on. it's not surprising to think that people may not want to get involved with a new person t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:53 PM
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i suppose this isn't a necessity for some women, but i'm always amazed at the money some will spend on getting their hair colored. i sort of get the more complex 'dos, but the amount that some will pay for a single, natural-toned all over color... amazing. i could never do that. haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:44 PM
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someone with less money than her. this is also someone who may have financial gaps that she has to fill in. she earned her money; even if it was inherited rather than earned, it's not unreasonable to think she might not want to share it or downgrade her lifestyle for someone right off the bat and/or for a long period of time. it's a burden. seriously, what part of this is so hard to understand for red pillers?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:32 PM
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While I think BPers are younger and more inexperienced i'll have to check, but i think the sides were pretty even on this based on the surveys taken on this sub. i don't know how any of the discussions here would paint non-RPers as less experienced though; most accounts/discussions include many mentions of relationships current and past. edit: age wasn't broken down by pill, but it does look like the women on this sub are slightly older than the men, so... take that as you will. in general, thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:10 PM
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Just how it is. heh, great proof. okay. sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 02:59 PM
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because they might not want to carry someone financially. completely reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 01:35 PM
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also this. the idea of finding a partner who makes less than me is unappealing in general, but when my boyfriend was laid off, i didn't think twice; i picked up the slack, and we worked through that rough period together.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 05:14 AM
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if you asked most people, men and women, many would probably also shy away from having to take on the potential burden of carrying someone financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 05:11 AM
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i doubt it. it seems much more likely that they just enjoy their lifestyle and don't want a relationship to affect it. not weird. if you asked most people, men and women, many would probably also shy away from having to take on the potential burden of carrying someone financially. i don't know what part of that seems foreign, to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 05:10 AM
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doesn't seem that odd to me, honestly. it seems to me that the women in the study had a lot of leeway regarding what they would find attractive, but weren't keen on taking on a partner they might have to carry financially. i'm expecting a red piller to storm in shouting about how this proves women are only after money, but let us not forget: these ladies have their own money and wouldn't need a so-called beta bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:01 AM
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which isn't at all the scenario presented in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 07:57 PM
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yup, you got me. women have only been wrong once or twice in all of history, and in all other scenarios, men are at fault. our ultimate goal is to live like the gerudo, and yes, every woman is in on it. i don't think any other answer will satisfy you, so... there you go. this thread is a joke. P.S. threads/responses like this are why non-red pillers stopped coming here/taking discussions from red pillers seriously. might want to take note of that, for the next time that subject comes up...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 07:15 AM
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Care to show me as many examples of women who've been such targets as men? I'm reading on my own and I've never seen a single occasion in which a BP-minded discussion has taken place about Women/A woman in a negative light. recent example. more found here. i don't recall any off the top of my head/well enough to track them down since it only happens on occasion, but there are some times when an RP post/OP is called out and commenters also point out that the woman's behavior wasn't really great e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 07:00 AM
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for this response i'm going to assume you're referring to TBP and non-red pillers on PPD, but if i'm wrong, let me know. Every single person, real or hypothetical, who has ever been the target of antagonism from BP is a male. definitely, definitely not true. if you think this, you're either not reading on your own (and instead taking on someone else's interpretation) or simply reading selectively and ignoring anything that is in conflict with your idea of the world outside TRP. i'm going to skip…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 06:31 AM
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honestly, it doesn't sound like you tried to explain this calmly; it sounds like you asked for help and gave the impression you were seeking advice, and then argued with anyone who responded to you. i wouldn't be surprised if that's part of what cut those conversations short. but aside from that, i agree with their general response: professional help is in order, and reddit/the internet isn't really the most suitable place to go looking for it (certainly not the red pill, as you yourself have ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 05:33 AM
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... they aren't talking to any guys. they're chatting amongst themselves. if you're hearing it in passing, they aren't speaking to you and probably didn't even notice you; it would be pretty insane to think of that as some shit test directed at you (not that the idea of a shit test is particularly great to begin with).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 05:29 AM
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I believe her, but she's probably thinking of a thin handsome hipster type in glasses or a wiry tattooed rocker. Not a pasty skinnyfat neckbeard. This not this. maybe... but i gotta say, personally, i don't dislike either of those (and even so, there are still buffer and chubbier guys i don't mind either). it would be kind of weird to hear scrawny used in this conversation because that seems like it's usually a negative term, but as for this thread... it's not that weird for women to be attracte…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 01:04 AM
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hope i did this right; separating them was tough! dark/longer hair, glasses, pale, more slim than muscular (and a little chubby even), light eyes maybe, strong-ish looking hands... as far as attractive goes, i like friendliness in general. someone who shares the same interests in entertainment is always a plus, and i love when someone pursues learning new things on their own for the sake of it. outside of standard things, i like guys who can appreciate the value of a day or night spent at home. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 02:40 AM
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can you provide any examples of this? i love a good surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 06:13 PM
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good for them; not wearing makeup feels great, so, good for them. there's nothing wrong with putting on a whole face if you want to, but makeup-free is really nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 01:24 AM
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i don't doubt they exist or that their behavior warrants negative judgment. if you even read my comment, though, i already stated it wasn't something i had personally witnessed/experienced or could comment on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:31 PM
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i've never been to a male strip club so i can't say much about them... but a lot of men act like complete idiots at strip clubs and that's probably part of why men who go there might be judged negatively. there's definitely a certain type who loves (and has the free time to) frequent strip clubs, and at least in my experience, they're not necessarily quality people. there may be other stigma/judgment i'm unaware of, but from the time i spent working next to a club/sometimes attending... that see…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:12 PM
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great! i'm glad we established that it's just a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 08:05 PM
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it's my understanding that the main characters in either scenario are intentionally kind of blank slates for the reader to project themselves on. that's why it sells, because the reader can basically put themselves in the place of that character. i don't think it's a statement as much as it is a way for creators to allow consumers to immerse themselves in the world/story they've created. i think the same is true for silent protagonists in video games. either way, these are just fantasy and enter…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 05:42 PM
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nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 05:38 PM
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nope, not worried.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 02:54 PM
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uh, /u/ichtragebrille has been insulted and harshly judged a ton by men in this thread, based solely on her appearance. seriously, who's looking down on who? ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:58 PM
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pro-choice, definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:25 PM
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What did you do today? Did it deviate from your normal routine? i went to work, studied on my lunch break, went to the gym, then came home and cooked/relaxed. it was pretty normal; treated myself to a latte though, which was nice, haha. Are you a creature of habit or a more impulsive type? mostly a creature of habit. i like minor changes/impulses from time to time to keep things interesting though. Do you think your pill affiliation impacts your routine (or aversion to routines)? i don't think s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 04:53 AM
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What relationship mistakes have you vowed to never make again? dating someone with the hope that they'll change not testing the waters (in terms of boundaries, getting a better understanding of the other person before diving in) depending desperately on someone/letting them walk all over me, and then, never letting someone in or trusting them (gotta have a balance) not making better choices when deciding who to believe in, or when. some people don't deserve second chances. playing games, being h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:41 AM
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personally, i prefer manbuns of disneyland (just sayin'). don't see any problem with the coffee one, especially since many of them look to be pictures of models found online. i would have liked the reading one if the pictures weren't taken without the subject's knowledge (or if the captions weren't so lame). if the men reading on trains were upset about being photographed or talked about that way, i'd probably agree with them on that. i didn't read the comments on these, but i can't imagine they…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:09 PM
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i don't know that there's anything helpful that could be said to this guy, especially since he doesn't seem inclined to listen anyway. the descriptions of his profile in this thread and his responses to the advice he specifically asked for make it pretty obvious why he was failing, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 03:59 PM
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1) good question; we actually don't have much shared property outside of gaming consoles or one or two pieces of furniture. buying is usually a joint decision. we've never had an 'if we break up' talk but i imagine we'd also jointly decide who gets what if that happened. 2) split all the way. he already had a system set up for paying bills so i transfer mine to him, but our incomes are pretty similar so we each pay half. on occasion one of us will take on a cleaning or maintenance project alone …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:02 PM
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isn't there already an effort to do this so that women can freely go topless? i haven't researched it but thought that was the case. i can't imagine many women wanting to run marathons sans bra though; that sounds incredibly uncomfortable/potentially painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:44 PM
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one of the few comments on it that demonstrates the difference between jokes and pointing out awkward parts of a field report. i wouldn't think ths commenter is homophobic just because they pointed this out. it was an awkward inclusion to a story about a guy trying to score with (or whatever) a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 10:34 PM
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RPers are also very pro-heterosexuality and 'sleep with as many different women as humanly possible or die' so it makes sense that someone would make a joke attacking that, since so many TRPers hold that dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 10:24 PM
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i assume it's just said as a jab (when intended as an insult) to red pillers based on the belief that they would find it offensive (rather than the poster actually thinking homosexuality is a bad thing). even so, not really a fan of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 10:11 PM
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this definitely bothers me too; i've seen some people get pretty harshly jumped on and downvoted just for having an opinion that goes against the grain a little. i'm not always a fan of some of the jokes aimed at red pillers there either; it's what made me pull away from that subreddit a little. i'm not really amused by the 'RP is so homo' comments/jokes, honestly; try harder, do better. there's usually much more to poke fun at without needing to resort to that. it doesn't happen much anymore, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 08:44 PM
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How important is sex for you to feel or express love? it's not the most important thing, but i do still think it's important. physical intimacy is often a big part of relationships, and i think it also has a big impact on how two partners interact or feel with each other. for me personally, it's more about how i'm treated than the sex itself. trust is a huge requirement for me when it comes to physical intimacy. out of 5, 1 being most important, i'd rate it 3 probably. Nurturing behaviors? we're…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:11 AM
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The latter is utterly terrifying. is it? to me, it seems like you wouldn't even know the difference. you would be nothing, feel nothing, need/want nothing, fear nothing...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:40 PM
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i'd argue that skirts are more formal than shorts, though. the equivalent would be a woman wearing shorts, not a skirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 11:31 AM
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places with these requirements have dress codes in place for both men and women, as far as i can tell. i don't think i've ever seen a more formal dress code in a restaurant or office setting that didn't also apply to women. i think some places can be too demanding with their dress codes, but i haven't seen any dress codes enforced in a way that is sexist to men, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:36 AM
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please see note above regarding 'serious discussion.' there are also a hundred (and even more) women like me as well; let's not pretend otherwise. the lists are a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 09:10 PM
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i looked over the lists, and was amused to see that i check off more of the second list than the first despite being an american white woman... seems like a poor premise to start with (which will undoubtedly affect the following discussion), but, oh well, i guess. edit: aggressive, domineering, shit-test-spewing harridans. ... even less convinced that this will be a serious discussion now, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 08:25 PM
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i suppose so, but it seems unlikely that the child suddenly changed their mind about their stepdad after 15 years given the information we have (unless i misunderstood the post, or your comment). i think that such a change in favor would also require a pretty big change or error on the stepdad's part (though none were mentioned). if we assume that the child always had affection for their biological parent, then, i don't know how (hypothetical) you could get involved in this situation without kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 05:59 PM
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no. cocky and arrogant guys are parodied in entertainment for a reason. they're the butts of many jokes, because their behavior is so repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 05:57 PM
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Does that mean that the female participation in this sub doesn't matter at all ? i feel like red pillers have stated this outright before. besides, if you're not being dismissed for being a woman, it's for 'being an outlier' instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 05:44 PM
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yeah, i think it was just a misunderstanding. FWIW, i upvoted you in the thread, now that i understand your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 04:28 PM
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the idea that you do not have a fanatical tribal loyalty to your own, is so alien to me this is kind of subjective though, don't you think? i have no interest in becoming pregnant or giving birth, but i really hope to adopt children in the future. i would not think of those children as being 'not my own'; although we aren't related by blood, they would absolutely and unquestionably be my children. several other people in this subreddit have expressed the same interest in adoption/foster-parentin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 04:22 PM
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some do, some don't (obviously).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 04:16 PM
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i don't care. i don't have casual sex, and i wouldn't be in a relationship with or even dating an arrogant guy. even if that were my interest, though, i can only guess that they'd probably be really needy and selfish in bed, so... no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 03:52 PM
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no. arrogant people in general are insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 12:22 PM
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this. i don't care about the flings; not into casual sex. however, 21 just seems too young for that. 26 year old me would be way more prepared for something that serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 12:57 PM
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well this thread seems unnecessary; calling out the original post and the user who shared their feelings seems... scummy somehow (probably because they'll now just be an RP punching bag, for the duration of this thread). given the context, i don't really see it as overreacting. i didn't read all 117 comments, but from what i can tell, the OP of the thread expressed her concerns and fears to other regular members of that sub, and some red pill sympathizer deliberately made himself known and essen…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 02:00 AM
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Then you'll hear from men whether that impresses them. i was kind of interested in this topic and discussion until this. not going to waste time trying to defend myself and my hobbies to a bunch of men, much less RPers (who are bound to tell me that what i enjoy is crap no matter what). what an absurd idea, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 10:06 PM
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Men will have to stop being ruled by their cocks. Men need to stop spending money/time/resources on women they're not banging. uh...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:28 PM
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yup! and honestly if you don't want to get married and think it's a pointless horrible thing, you probably shouldn't be doing it either. save yourself/other people the trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 03:47 PM
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the OP just shows that you've decided/convinced yourself that women won't add anything to your life. it's not that no one can answer the question, it's that you've already disqualified many answers and no one's really going to change your mind if you're not seriously and actively looking to change it (which doesn't seem to be the case here). it's not apparent that you're actually looking to have a sincere discussion about this, and instead, want people to argue against your personal opinion (an …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 03:23 PM
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has even verbally confirmed in conversation that she intentionally plays hard to get by acting uninterested this is not the same as just doing this to all women whether or not you have that confirmation/conversation, which is what most TRPers seem to do. they just want to get laid, so to hell with what she says. that's great for you and your wife; i think people should communicate about stuff like that. however, in most FRs or whatever where RPers 'push through', it's nothing even close to the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:38 PM
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no... that's a really predatory way to think and act. taking every 'no' as a 'try harder' is just a fast way to receive an accusation (maybe rightfully, depending on what you do) of sexual assault, the very thing RPers express so much paranoia about on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:20 PM
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thank you, i knew that was wrong, but didn't feel like googling the right name. the idea of will farrell writing such a book gave me a laugh, though...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:17 PM
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uh, red pillers exhibit the behavior you described constantly on this sub. does this mean you shouldn't be treated as an equal participant either? makes this pretty easy, if so. he provided a silly flippant answer, and got called on it because it added nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 08:30 PM
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she provided (completely valid) reasons for what she said, though; it makes sense that someone who is shy, introverted, and socially awkward would look for a like-minded partner, in general. speaking as such a person... i often find extroverts exhausting and depending on their behavior, abrasive and uncomfortable to be around; i wouldn't want to date or sleep with that guy. this doesn't even account for the possibility of conflict/misunderstandings between two people who have such different pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 07:21 PM
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this, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 03:15 PM
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neither is the jealousy you've said people have for jim, or the hatred of his success, so if we're all just making stuff up as we go...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 05:50 PM
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No, Jim didn't start an unethical business. He started a business that other people thought was unethical, but in fact wasn't. actually, it doesn't state whether or not jim's business was actually unethical, so you're also incorrect. to echo /u/Sleela17, Why would people think his business was unethical unless he was engaging in some sort of unethical practices?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 05:40 PM
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how many times do you need to repeat yourself? you already said this elsewhere in the thread; this comment was completely unnecessary. the thread of responses to your other nearly identical comment should answer this. please refer to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 05:38 PM
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Assume they never had an opportunity to challenge their ideas. Assume that what they were told and shown is all they saw and that they were constantly redirected back to it regardless of any other information out there. then yes, i would still sympathize. they were sold a bunch of ideas that didn't turn out to be true. it's a good thing this is a hypothetical though, because again, that's not realistic. You simply don't like the fact that Sally and Betty aren't deserving of sympathy according to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 03:09 PM
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in my first comment: i had sympathy for jim... until he started his unethical business for personal gain based on his past experiences. don't ask me if i've read your comments if you're not willing to read mine. No. Stick with the facts of the hypo. it's a hypothetical, there are no facts, and you're asking for people to respond with their thoughts on it (which i did). the world is full of opposing ideas and different points of view; i don't believe that sally and betty never had an opportunity …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 02:42 PM
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It is a precise comparison. Sally and Betty ARE crying "woe is me". Sally can't figure out why any of her sexual encounters don't morph into LTRs, when that's what she claims to want. Betty thinks that she'll get a guy by being smart and accomplished. Both of them are doing what was modeled; and what they were told were paths to sexual and relational success. how is this the same as jim running an unethical business, citing it as bob's fault? it's not. EDIT: Did you read the post and the "though…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 02:24 PM
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i think the lack of sympathy for jim wasn't necessarily because of his experiences, but how he chose to react to them. i'm adjusting to new glasses so i suppose i could have overlooked it but... neither betty nor sally seem to be playing the victim or crying 'woe is me' and blaming other people for their circumstances*. at most, they've realized they may have been going about things the wrong way by the end of the story. these stories aren't even the same as the story involving jim, so i don't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 02:00 PM
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It's more a question how well it was recieved. Pop is the most popular genre worldwide. Cold we imagine Maroon 5 covering a gender swapped version of this song without the internet exploding with male entitlement arguments. if those arguments were made i wouldn't necessarily disagree with them; it's one of the things that bothered me about this song, and i wouldn't feel differently if genders were swapped. as others have noted, however, swift is hardly the only recording artist to release a song…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:41 PM
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a joke is a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline (according to merriam-webster). it seems that, instead, you posted your opinion and then tried to pass it off as a joke (unsuccessfully). oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 06:07 PM
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noooo no no. you said something gross and demeaning about women, and then complained when you were criticized for it and tried to pass it off as a joke. it's no one else's problem that red pillers have such low standards for what they consider humor (according to what you've said). you were deliberately offensive, and then complained when you got the exact response you were aiming for. stop acting surprised; it's dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:56 PM
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... or it's simply not funny/so close to other things that RPers say about women that it isn't easily identified as a joke. if you don't want these statements taken seriously... stop making them, or associating with those that do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:42 PM
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this is also what i would guess. their focus is simply elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 06:06 PM
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i remember this song, and i didn't love it for a lot of reasons. i can relate to the frustration of seeing your romantic interest with someone else/who might not make them happy or comfortable, but aside from that, wasn't a fan of the ideas put forth in the song (even as someone who wasn't 'perfect' or popular in high school). i didn't like it originally and i doubt that would change if it were sung or written by a guy. edit: that being said, i think she was also 17/18 when the song came out; mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 05:04 PM
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I advise you to drop the snark. oh, better watch out everyone; as we've been told before, he can report people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 03:28 AM
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at this point it sounds like greg's jealousy has little to nothing to do with his girlfriend (as the OP stated), and is just general envy at the life that another man lived... if greg feels that regardless of the woman, there's probably nothing she could do because it's a greg problem. edit: It's not that my goalposts have wheels. It's just that the scenario isn't detailed out. OP would be novel-length. I make it up as I go ah, that... i was wondering why the story kept changing so conveniently.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 12:17 PM
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off-topic, -ish, but this is great to hear; i stopped seeing my first therapist, and i've been a little afraid to see another in case that situation repeats itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 03:34 PM
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i've received a diagnosis/treatment for an anxiety disorder, which was sometimes accompanied by compulsions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 04:00 AM
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1) no, not easily. we've been together for several years, and he's really the most caring and like-minded person i've ever been with. it would be difficult to find someone else that i can have the same kind of relationship and trust/closeness with (which matters both physically and emotionally). 2) no, for the same reasons above. i think this rings true for both of us, especially since he tells me so. it doesn't mean we never would, if the worst happened and our relationship ended, but it would …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 08:20 PM
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eesh, that seems so weird. i'm thankful i haven't encountered that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 01:16 PM
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0%! hooray.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 05:28 AM
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well... maybe. if it's obvious his interest isn't platonic, then (assuming this guy isn't a jerk who would go nuts upon being rejected) i think she should decline/make her lack of interest known rather than providing her number. even if she decided he was still interesting in a platonic way, she should make her position clear regarding the attraction/lack of early on, if not right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 05:08 AM
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1 for sure; 2 sounds depressing. edit: it's better than 2 but 1 also has some major downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 07:29 PM
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0 times for me; not really into casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 04:09 PM
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i'm mostly indifferent, though i guess i might prefer someone more experienced just to avoid awkwardness. it's not a factor i'd base much on, though, if i'm already so interested in the guy that we are physically intimate. i try to avoid awkwardness in all situations as a general rule, so this probably wouldn't be much different. i can see how this would be a fun experience to have with a guy (so long as an emotional connection is there) and it would be exciting as well, but i don't think my out…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 04:34 AM
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that's your sole reason for posting this? negative feelings towards another subreddit, for banning you (i guess)? i don't see anything wrong with the discussion topic, but this post in particular now seems pretty silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 12:57 AM
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Now if you find that an insult or insulting in any way maybe you should look at why you think that is. i think it's because that was your intent, but, nice attempt to turn it around. failed, but at least you tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:44 PM
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if this subreddit is heavily red, red pillers would be able to circlejerk or whatever while also benefitting from less stringent moderation. they can do things here that might not be allowed in the other sub, plus it gives them another outlet for their crap ideas. i'm responding to a single comment chain with relatively brief answers; i know you intended for your comment to be some sort of great insult but i can assure you, the effort and impact on my time to reply in this one place is minimal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 11:39 AM
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it's more likely that RPers are just validation junkies, and non-RPers would rather spend their time doing something constructive and enjoyable but hey, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 04:09 AM
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the feelings expressed in this comment are the same reason less non-RPers show up here. there used to be responses of substance from both sides, but one side just got tired of moving goalposts, personal attacks, or just outright refusal from TRPers to even carry on a normal discussion. the effort put into thoughtful responses was wasted, so people stopped trying. it wasn't worth it anymore, because the responses from TRP were the same regardless of if a thoughtful comment was posted or not. you …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 01:48 AM
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it's sad that you're so invested in this fantasy, especially since you'd never get to write a 10,000 word field report about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 10:58 PM
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yeah, i did make a general statement of my opinion about that man (it was really just one guy, so i don't know if this can be considered the same as the generalizations we're talking about here). i never said or implied that my opinion was an irrefutable fact, or even that it was likely he was a bad person, though. in fact, i said that my opinion would be easily changed if more information about the scenario was presented and provided an example of things that would be important to my final deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 04:16 PM
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no, i asked for specific links to comments that match the accusations you're leveling here. you still couldn't even link to my original comment or the thread, because obviously, the context would just serve to further prove you wrong. my comment was based on the idea that this man had used a guide to create his entire persona from the ground up, and that nothing about him was genuine. who wouldn't feel deceived by that? the OP made it seem like this was an entirely artificial personality, and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 04:00 PM
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no, you're wrong. what i said is exactly what happened in more than one of the threads you linked. that is the actual case here, not whatever weird interpretation you're deciding to run with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:53 PM
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and unsurprisingly, you don't seem to provide any context for those statements. so, specific links? full comments? because i'm sure that would clarify it quickly. there are extremes on both sides, but most non-RPers that i see engage in discussions pretty genuinely. i don't remember a lot of extremist views coming out of the thread regarding men using a guide.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:41 PM
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you don't. the many, many comments disagreeing with you and expressing actual points of view confirm that you have nothing sussed out, and instead, will choose to believe whatever you made up in your head about the big bad non-RPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:36 PM
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pretty sure you also said there were men who told you to do this as well... so i'm not sure why it's not clearer to you that this was a condition of your environment at the time, and not the horrible wimminz trying to bring you down. not even most non-RPers agree with those statements (aside from some expanded interpretations of 'be yourself' but... there was already a thread detailing that so we don't need another).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:32 PM
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"if you will just agree with my point of view and say that you, and all non-RPers, are always wrong, i will be satisfied." i don't know why you can't let this go, to the degree of making multiple threads about it but... get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:13 PM
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aaaaaaand now 4 threads about this same thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:09 PM
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honestly, it seems like you're just upset that people either don't agree with your/RP generalizations, or point out that they're just generalizations, and not some infallible truth. as noted in my edit, this was already discussed in one of the threads you linked in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 02:59 PM
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oh man. are you still going on about this? this is pretty much the third thread where this has been the main topic of discussion, from you. no one cares who you marry or sleep with (so long as it's legal/no one is harmed), but if you openly make assertions about people who engage in certain activities in a discussion, at least one person will disagree with your opinion (especially here). it has nothing to do with generalizations being bad, because they have their place. it has to do with a diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 02:50 PM
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it's just a guess since i'm not sure i've seen this situation arise, but i'd be surprised to see blue/non-red pillers belittling or making fun of an admitted and diagnosed sociopath (but feel free to prove me wrong). it does seem like many red pillers glorify it and by their own admission, attempt to emulate it for personal gain, and... well, i think that's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 02:20 AM
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i'm not sure why it matters so much. there are people who disagree with TRP but don't participate that much at TBP, or consider themselves either a member or an opponent of that sub. i guess if there's confusion about purples someone can... start a topic about it? but i think the mods already put forth a rule to make flairs/positions clearer and personally, I think they're fine as is. it just sounds like you want to claim the gray flair to prevent people on 'the other side' from using it in a wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 10:57 PM
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what a convenient view to have, that allows you to just disregard what any woman here has to say. i don't know how long this will stay up with a non-neutral title but if this is what you think, you might as well go back to holding discussions at the RP boys club.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 09:03 PM
1

actually, there was a thread a while back asking all women what their ideal body type was, and i think we all got along pretty well, even while expressing differing opinions. honestly, the threads like that only seem to fall apart when the intended target of the question is ignored, and commenters (usually RP men, sadly) chime in with statements like the one above.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 08:51 PM
1

it's more likely that you're simply wrong, or target women that reinforce your negative outlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 02:42 AM
2

yeah, even with the roles flipped, this is still weird. young fit bodies aren't exclusive to that age range, so it doesn't seem likely that this is the primary goal of the pursuit. i can't imagine that the two individuals in this scenario have much in common based on how far apart in age they are either. it still seems pretty skeevy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 02:32 AM
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1) south. 2) N/A 3) 26 4) never been married. 5) i don't identify as poly. 6) no. 7) no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 09:24 PM
6

only if my salary could support us both, and he wasn't lazy/ambitionless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 08:11 PM
2

hm, stepping back from the friendship wasn't quite what i was thinking; depending, that could be a bigger change than what i meant. i was thinking just stepping back from this particular behavior or hinting if a line's crossed instead of playing along (though it wouldn't matter much if no lines are crossed, i suppose). it's what i'd want, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:30 PM
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that's not even an exaggeration of what i said, it's a different thought entirely. you said your list was accurate, and i pointed out that it's not a thing you can describe as accurate because it's just your opinion and as far as i can tell, not based on any fact. i don't really know what your edit has to do with anything i actually said; your responses are just getting more extreme and bizarre though, so i'll exit the comment chain here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:16 PM
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well, that's great and all, but your list is based on personal opinion/experience and can only really be applied to a small fraction of women; 'accurate' is not the correct word to describe it. i'm not interested in starting a conversation based on the rest of your comment (been there, done that) but let's not pretend your opinion is somehow set-in-stone fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:44 PM
2

this would make me uncomfortable. if it were me, i'd probably talk to him about how i felt first and then address her directly, if she continued with no reciprocation from him. if it worsened anyway, then i might consider the possibility of the relationship ending. i'm assuming that he never reciprocates or plays along, though, and would respect your feelings enough to create some distance from her. if not, that'd be a pretty big red flag. i don't think that seems controlling; you're part of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:31 PM
2

looks matter, just not as much as personality and how a guy treats me/others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:21 PM
16

no offense but, wow, your dating pool must be tiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:15 PM
1

teenagers aren't defined as either children or adults (except eventually legally, which isn't what i'm referring to). 'teenager' is it's own stage of life, typically defined as a human aged 13-19. this is common/easily found knowledge... come on, now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:39 AM
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of course you would say i'm reaching; a group of people you belong to is being criticized negatively. that response isn't surprising, but think what you want. if you're concerned about that association, you may want to take a closer look at the things that your fellow followers are saying and doing and decide if TRP is something you still want to proudly subscribe to. it's probably not fair for this to apply to the entire group, honestly, but i can assure you it's not a coincidence that members …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:24 AM
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source: /r/theredpill. really, you don't have to look very far. i'm sure it's right there on the front page; there's gotta be at least 2-3 'anger phase' posts hanging out. you'd almost think there's a quota or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 01:40 AM
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no, being sexually inexperienced doesn't necessarily mean that. younger people with little life experience are, in general, more naive and easy to take advantage of, though. as far as i can tell, that's a major part of what makes them so appealing to RPers/predatory adults. they're easy targets, and given the option, the people who seek them out would look for even younger individuals if it weren't for that dang statutory rape. how you can't realize that this is creepy is incredible, and/or some…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 01:35 AM
3

or it's just creepy that some men believe this, and strive to be that guy/take advantage of someone who's young and likely naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 12:38 AM
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i don't really know specifics because i didn't care to ask, but i'm pretty sure most of the men i've been with were more experienced than me. i wouldn't think it was by much, though, comparing them to men who i know to have had many partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:39 PM
1

exclusive only. i can't really do the sharing thing, nor would i even want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 11:59 AM
4

i don't think it's possible for someone to be in both the adult and child stages of life simultaneously, so, not true. easy answer!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:40 AM
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source please. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 03:06 AM
1

short answer: sure. i'm going to be a little nitpicky and say he can want whatever he wants; that doesn't mean i'm going to provide it, at all. but word choice aside, really, unless i have a specific reason for not doing something (like having tried it and hated it) i don't see any problem with this if the relationship is otherwise normal and healthy. ideally, i'd probably even enthusiastically want to do those things with my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 02:59 AM
2

that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 02:22 AM
4

... or just trying to further conflict by announcing to everyone that you reported them. trolls do this, often while also baiting other community members so that they have something to report. but sure, 'noting'.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 01:56 AM
0

the world RPers live in is weird. there's absolutely no proof of this (and i doubt it could be proven, being an absolute statement). some of the comments i read here make me wonder if some are just misery-loving people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 01:50 AM
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there wasn't a personal attack... and telling people you report them seems pretty pointless, especially if their comment isn't removed or breaking any rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 01:10 AM
-1

i never stated otherwise; both sides have their more extreme members. however, i do see this particular type more from RP than anyone else, it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 01:05 AM
4

this, and (correct me if i'm mistaken) but the OP seems to be talking about dating or LTRs, not just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:54 PM
4

attempting to insult or otherwise upset another commenter, far as i can tell. seems sadly common from some of the more extreme RP commenters here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 04:51 PM
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well when you find one single unusual/newsworthy example, better milk it for what it's worth eh? seriously, a second thread for this was unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 02:55 PM
1

this seems like a broad question so i don't know if it's what you're looking for but... i guess my first relationship resulted in an experience similar to what some RPers describe as the thing that pushed them to RP (young oneitis/terrible heartbreak). we dated on and off for 5 years, and after some time out of state, he came back, we spent an evening drinking together, and he said he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me. i loved him more than anything, but we had been drinking, so the n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 02:47 PM
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er, no one's getting pissy, i was just pointing out that it was a silly argument that made no sense and had no basis in reality. if you enjoy delusion, though, go right ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 02:05 AM
2

this seems... inconsistent. isn't the claim that all women, even the unattractive ones, can snap their fingers and get someone to sleep with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 02:01 AM
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no one on either side agreed with those posts, and they were (rightfully) removed quickly. stop trying to make it seem as if non-RP commenters were cheering it on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 01:56 AM
1

it's one of the state's major universities; if you didn't go there, you probably still know someone who did. i'm pretty sure if something like this was being so heavily advocated at a university, it would have made news somewhere. smaller stories have had nationwide headlines; this 'argument' is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 01:02 AM
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yeah, i also live in texas and as far as i can tell, this isn't a widespread opinion in this state, or other states even.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 10:37 PM
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yeah. it sounds like we went through the same thing, around the same age too. i'm glad i got past it; i don't blame people for not wanting to deal with me then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 08:24 PM
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i mean, maybe... there were some times when i got attached to guys who paid even the slightest of attention to me, and then resentful when they didn't have the same feelings for me that i had for them. i was a pretty lonely kid, so it was hard not to let that happen or prevent my frustration from turning into anger and blame for the person i wanted attention from. on top of that i've always been pretty reserved, so opening myself up to someone that way often felt like a sacrifice, one that i fel…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 07:47 PM
2

same; there was a period of time (years ago, thankfully) where i thought similarly about my interactions with men, and it never, ever ended well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 06:17 PM
2

AFAIK you need an excellent career once you're in your late teens and 20s too. maybe it's just based on my experience and what i see around me, but pretty much no one i know had an excellent career in their teens or early twenties. those years are generally for either completing education or building experience that will help you land that amazing career. i suppose the chances of such a career are higher in your mid/late twenties, but even then...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 04:48 PM
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as one of the women who has dated someone shorter than myself... it's not really fair to judge based on dating history. many women in this thread are shorter than the average man (save for the few countries with low averages), some of them by several inches. if the majority of men you meet and interact with are taller than you, then of course it's likely that your dating history will include men taller than you. if this was some attempt to prove that women dislike short men, it was really poorly…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 02:17 AM
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what else would it mean? for all the complaints about women 'hating' short men, it's amazing how even the responses here from women saying they don't care about height are being disregarded or even received negatively. i'm becoming convinced that there's really no answer that will please RP when it comes to stuff like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 02:10 AM
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i'd interpret it as an acceptable quality/non-dealbreaker instead; somewhere between totally fine and undesired (though i agree that there are some responses more enthusiastic than this in the thread). it still leaves a good portion that don't care much about height though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 01:55 AM
4

doesn't seem that way, really; i counted 15 who wouldn't mind at all, and several more who said it wasn't ideal but not a big deal (fwiw).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 01:24 AM
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BP Women: Would you date a man that was shorter than you? yup, don't see why not. Bonus question: Of the people that you have dated, what % of them were the above criteria? 25%. at 5'5", guys shorter than me aren't exactly common.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:55 PM
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speaking only for myself, but... bars ["I just want to hang out with my friends!"] i go to a local pub occasionally, and i actually kind of like meeting new people there. i'm with my partner/friends so i'm not looking for a date, but i would find it perfectly acceptable to strike up a conversation at a bar. you can find some interesting people and stories, even if you end up never seeing them again. clubs ["I just want to dance!"] this is a pretty superficial setting, so it seems like both appro…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 03:41 PM
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See, I feel like that's a lesson someone could learn from one relationship when beginning the next. Not, "don't date anyone interesting who you could actually love," but, "don't depend on one person for the majority of your fulfillment." yes! excellent response. this was something i had to learn myself, after being in a relationship/break up that sounds like it wasn't too emotionally different from what /u/EatSkeetSleepRepeat described. this is exactly it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 02:56 PM
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there's probably more and i'll edit them in if they come to mind later, but i'd say for me these are the most important things that come to mind: emotionally supportive similar sense of humour/interests/hobbies/taste in entertainment/personal values interest in learning new things laid back personality kind to me/others intelligent independent trustworthy i prioritize the things above over appearance since those things make someone more attractive to me overall (as someone who only dated with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 02:29 PM
1

i mean, that's pretty much what i took away from the responses there. exactly that. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:44 PM
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you can edit/combine comments, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 01:00 PM
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i seem to recall most non-RPers advocating safe sex/testing for STDs to minimize health risk, especially for those engaging in frequent casual sex. edit: i don't typically care much about downvotes, but it is hilarious that this comment is getting downvoted at all. wtg, RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:08 AM
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might edit this to be more in-depth later and hope i'm not engaging a troll but... the women groping the barmen or crudely commenting on their kilts sound disgusting, and should be treated the same as men who do that to women (legally, and socially). even some of the comments in that thread made my stomach turn; truly terrible. i didn't read the entire article about objectifying men being necessary (author seemed annoying, honestly) but i don't really agree with her stance either, as far as i ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 07:34 PM
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er... whichever one she wants? i don't think there's anything wrong with choosing to get a full education, living the single life, having a career-driven life, or choosing to be a homemaker/family-driven woman (or any combo of those) nor do i think any of those are necessarily better than the other. i don't really like giving vague answers like the one above, but i don't think you'll have an easy time getting one specific or conclusive answer because the question has many, many answers. while si…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:15 PM
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ah, please tell me the secret to your knowledge. i, too, would like to be able to completely understand the full and personal lives of other redditors based on nothing but a screen name and some comments. it would explain much, i'm sure. this was fun but not quite interesting/a challenge, so i'm afraid i won't be replying further. i'm out. congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 10:30 PM
0

ah, no chance of that happening ;) i appreciate the time spent fantasizing over that, though, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 10:13 PM
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your determination to make other people miserable for no reason is astounding. is this the success that TRP promises? haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 10:05 PM
-1

ah yes, i'm hurt. ow. success.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 09:55 PM
-2

so i should consider you equal to an anonymous troll, because you can't stop trying to make promiscuous women feel bad about themselves simply because you don't want to marry them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 09:53 PM
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or... just stop being a dick to other people for such a minor reason? easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 08:55 PM
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Have sex with whoever you want, as many different men as you want. Go ahead and cheat on your BFs and husbands. i feel bad for you if you think these are the same thing, or never happen separately. you'd do well to look at reality; you might be happier for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 08:49 PM
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pretending like it doesn't matter to men, even though men says it does matter. ah... that's pretty annoying, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 08:48 PM
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As long as they don't say those things outloud, they can keep posting it all they want. They're not gonna change anytime soon. The readers who agree with their sentiments were already thinking it in the first place. good for them? that doesn't stop people from having their own reactions or opinions about it. Also, is cyber bullying really affecting sluts? er, i'd say cyber-bullying affects a lot of people; the news headlines should be able to tell you that much. and since RPers often seem to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 08:47 PM
5

yeah, totally. that's what i meant. try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 08:42 PM
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there's nothing wrong with that, as i said already in my comment. prefer away.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 08:41 PM
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it's probably because, on this sub and others, many RPers can't simply say 'i'm not attracted to promiscuous women.' instead, it's 'those worthless whores deserve to be unhappy, and i hope that they are.' many non-RP members of this sub mentioned they wouldn't find a promiscuous man attractive, so there's no lack of understanding when it comes to that point of view; the simple preference is understood. the constant dehumanizing and attacking of promiscuous women based on their promiscuity alone …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 08:29 PM
1

I disagree. i stated this previously; we don't agree. i don't believe there's any need to be a dick, especially not for the reasons you've stated and in the long run, it's just going to be harmful for everyone involved. keep believing that what you're doing is good, though; it should work out with no negative consequences or regrets whatsoever, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 05:26 PM
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i wouldn't say that i don't believe them, overall, but i think we define what TRP calls 'being defrauded and lied to' much differently. additionally, the experiences that are described that way are generally something that everyone experiences at some point in life, and difficult as those experiences may be, i don't believe that the men of TRP are special or unique for having gone through it (nor do i think it's an acceptable excuse for their negative, intentionally harmful, destructive ways of …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 03:44 PM
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This is what blue pill men fear - that hostile response when they say how they feel. what you've described sounds less like expressing feelings, and more like just being a tactless jackass. if there's a problem big enough/partner shallow enough to speak up about it, then they should be aware that it may not be well received and/or could end the relationship (which, it sounds like would be the ideal outcome anyway). there's no real reason to be cruel about it if it comes to that, though; there ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 01:34 PM
1

To be a rake, a rogue and a cad. To run game none of this is necessary to succeed in dating. to believe that it is is delusional, and probably an attempt to justify bad behavior. it's pretty much the opposite of growth and strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 01:22 PM
2

still not seeing why being a dick is necessary at all, especially if you end up choosing not to be one anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 02:03 AM
4

i think that's a perfectly fine aversion to have, so obviously we disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 07:10 PM
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not really. i've tried to find one or more, but the uniquely red pill stuff is just really terrible, for both men and women. even things like 'abundance mentality' are things that already existed; most people call it moving on, or simply not fixating on one person too much, for casual sex/dating. i mean, red pillers seem to choose to also be dicks about it, but for non-red pillers who don't act that way, this was already an idea that could be learned elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 04:24 PM
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i'm guessing this might be the exchange referred to? if so, the commenter's reasons were pretty clearly explained elsewhere in the thread, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 04:00 PM
1

fair enough; i'm sure the conclusion is different for some people. i prefer to simply ignore them and focus energy elsewhere or on something constructive, but tht's really just because responding with anything else would be tiring for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 10:36 PM
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The point is, if you treat people well even when they treat you like crap, it wears you down so you can't pay full attention to those who actually deserve that good treatment. my default is treating everyone with a general level of kindness, but it's low effort; it's not as if i'm bending over backwards for all people, all the time (and it's not difficult behavior to dismiss if someone's proven so badly that they no longer deserve that kindness). there are still times where i've gotten upset or …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 09:30 PM
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consider it a lesson learned? people will take advantage of you sometimes, and it sucks. you can still respect others and show kindness while setting limits for how far you'll go for someone, or how you'll allow yourself to be treated. IME it's sometimes easiest to recognize after someone's done it to you, which is unfortunate, but... you can definitely be kind and still have boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 06:57 PM
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So you think it's a good quality in a man to be scared, frightened, and curl up into a ball when a tragic situation presents itself? i believe it's a natural, human quality. that is a normal response. Sorry, but your logic makes no sense whatsoever. People who succumb to their emotions in challenges are those who lose. Doctors don't become doctors by succumbing to a fear of blood or gore. Lawyers don't become lawyers by being emotional during a case. The biggest movie stars in the world didn't b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 12:31 AM
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Let's say that you were married, and one day, your daughter is hit by a drunk driver, which fractures her skull and requires her to be immediately airlifted to the hospital to save her life. well, this is a pretty rare occurrence, and obviously not what i was talking about; there wasn't any indication that we were discussing reactions in a life-changing tragedy, so i was referring to normal, everyday behavior. i mean, really, who would assume we were talking about a situation like that? Wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 10:04 PM
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i can't say i think of that as a positive thing. it may be true that that's the expectation, but i don't really find it attractive if someone actually does/tries to meet that expectation (and i'm not alone in that). if someone's just naturally that way, it's not necessarily bad; in some settings, i myself am that way, and there are personalities that are just like that on their own. but, i don't think it's a positive thing to strive for and i likely wouldn't want to be around/with someone who di…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 09:23 PM
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yeah, i think i remember that post. i feel like i see it most often in MRP, and i think that's where that post was from.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 09:01 PM
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this. it might have been more recognizable as a joke if i hadn't seen it more than once in a TRP etc. post, written by individuals who seemed pretty serious about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:29 PM
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i don't really buy into the alpha/beta thing. i guess if i did i might agree with some of /u/gavinok's comment, save for boldness (too vague) and stoic (not bad, but not necessary). i think the rest are good traits for lots of people in general to possess, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:33 PM
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Next, decide which one you want to bruise your cervix on. ha... definitely neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:29 PM
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yup. and a man is typically able to feed himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 01:07 AM
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or maybe it's because this is based on another thread where it was repeatedly insinuated that women believe saying hello (verbatim) is harassment, despite many comments from women explaining otherwise, and providing examples of actual bothersome behavior. i didn't participate in that thread (seeing how it went down) but if i had, i wouldn't want to engage in another one like it either. it's also the middle of the day in some places, and people may simply not be online.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 06:33 PM
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i'm the same way. i do my best to respond if someone asks me how i'm doing, of course, but i don't get up from my desk too often and if i do, i have a reason and i'm usually headed to take care of it with some urgency. by the time i'm able to respond, i've sometimes already passed someone by, so i'd just be yelling that behind me as i went about my business. i'll respond in kind if someone addresses me, but there's no reason a conversation or interaction beyond that exchange should be expected i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 01:28 PM
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both dread game and negging are done passive aggressively, as i understand it, so i don't know that either is an example of standing up for yourself; though still harmful, the execution is usually meant to be more sneaky and akin to gaslighting. it's just contributing to the problem; it's not solving anything. it might also help to include an example of what you mean by being taken for granted, as well, because RPers tend to have their own definitions of what that is (among other things). if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 03:32 AM
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yeah, no. it's been made clear in several recent threads that dread game and negging go beyond simple teasing or having options. nice try, but no. dread game is actively trying to instill dread in your partner that you'll leave or cheat on them, and negging is meant specifically to lower a woman's self esteem, and make the user feel superior for having done so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 01:24 AM
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this has been explained in other threads you've created like this, though. everyday/common advice can work, but TRP doesn't have any kind of claim to it so i don't consider that TRP. TRP seems to uniquely promote things like negging and dread game, and it's things like that that tend to be effective on women with low self-esteem (and further lower that self esteem). TRP also seem to specifically seek women who aren't too ambitious or opinionated and this is stated plainly in threads. if TRP does…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 01:02 AM
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i guess it's because i live/work near a fairly liberal city in the US, but tattoos and piercings are common among all kinds of different fields here, including medical and business. wild hair colors are a little less common (or maybe just less bright) but it's definitely possible to have both. hair color can be covered/understated; tattoos can be covered too. you can get retainers for piercings or simply different/nicer jewelry. i don't believe that you necessarily have to make major life sacrif…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:56 PM
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i suppose most would say that i do, at least depending on how they're choosing to define traditional masculinity. /u/sohamster provided a definition that is along the lines of what i consider masculinity to be in another thread, and i do find that attractive. there seems to be another definition which is more about being aggressive and abrasive muscleheads, and i have zero interest in men like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 03:54 AM
1

weak argument. non-RP posters on this sub often admit to having had past relationships and experiences, or even having made mistakes with those relationships. i don't know that your 'ammo' will provide you with much triumph when this is already openly disclosed and explained. have fun trying, i guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:29 PM
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I don't care what other people do. I certainly wouldn't shame anyone, but I think they would make a terrible LTR for me. i agree with this. i would find it to be unattractive in a prospective partner, personally, but that doesn't mean i think they shouldn't be free to do that if they want. i just don't think a relationship between myself and someone interested in that would ever work out. i don't shame, but sex is personal to me so i wouldn't want to be with someone who doesn't think of it the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 03:15 PM
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It's that something bad? bad? not necessarily. as you said, there are just some people you may never click or get along with. i just happen to believe that most red pillers would fall into that category for me (and i, them).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 12:05 PM
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it's pretty difficult to define when everyone has their own interpretation. not even RPers seem to have a single definition, as far as i can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 04:32 AM
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you could just as easily write about that experience; i don't see why anyone couldn't. it would be different, but no less worth writing about, right? unless you're just looking for the quickest, easiest sex rather than a real connection... which also seems to match what most (not all) red pillers are seeking. it's not personal; red pillers just generally aren't my kind of guys/people. we wouldn't get along, as evidenced by even the most minor interactions on this subreddit. eventually our differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 02:51 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 04:49 AM
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because that's where they claim to be in most comments and field reports, looking for anyone who will sleep with them. if it's not a club, it's a party, and i only attend small/chill house parties with close friends, if that. i'm not into casual sex, big crowds, raging parties, nightclubs, or any of the things i mentioned before and that seems to disqualify much of TRP's active members based on what they say about themselves and their interests/activities (which honestly, is a relief). there pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 03:46 PM
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they should look elsewhere. i'm sure there are good, positive places to learn dating tips or whatever from.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 03:41 AM
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i've never really thought about the specifics; being a homebody in a monogamous long term relationship nearly guarantees i won't run into most red pillers because we simply don't frequent the same places or share the same interests. i'm pretty good at recognizing if i've encountered someone i won't like or hit it off with, too, so i generally figure it'll be more of an 'i'll know it when i see it' situation. i may need to think on specifics a while longer for the reasons mentioned above; may edi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 11:17 PM
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What truly happened is you posted a question, read what you wanted from the answers, confirmed your biases with it and added some shitty sausanalogies. this, so much. the post in question asked how women would feel if they found out that everything about their SO had been fabricated/copied from a guide, and the RP commenters in this thread are either outraged that women would dislike a man who worked to improve a few traits that may be particularly weak points for him, or shocked that women hate…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 07:34 PM
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since i was mentioned in this OP... Best case scenario, it's just someone with low self-esteem who needed some very strict guidelines to feel more comfortable expressing himself. Worst case scenario, this is a person with some very negative traits who's using the positive things described in this book as a mask to hide behind until you become emotionally invested and are less likely to leave when he expresses them. /u/buartha did a pretty good job of describing what i wouldn't be as upset about,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 06:07 PM
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yes, we all wear those, all the time, and are never ever seen without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:10 PM
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i'm pretty sure most people would still be disgusted if what a guy learned from his dad matched some of what's encouraged by RSD.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:10 PM
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Does finding out about this guide make you feel less attracted to your SO of your dreams? it might. it would depend on his reasons for using the strategy guide, and the person that he actually is without it. that makes a big difference. Do you feel manipulated in any way? yes, i'm pretty sure i'd feel tricked. the answer above also applies here, though. the motives behind following this guide matter. Would you prefer if all of his mannerisms were actually naturally borne, and not inspired by thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 03:26 PM
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it's probably not uncommon for men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 04:28 PM
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this question seems like a trap, but i'll bite: average man. i don't care about the 100K; that number is nice, but less wouldn't bother me. there's no way i can financially support another person, though, and i don't know that i'd ever want to. it's nice to be inclusive but i don't see what benefit is added by having men respond from a woman's point of view on a question directed specifically at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 04:22 PM
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OP is already receiving snark for simply creating this thread; i can't really blame OP for not wanting to share their own ideas and offer up further ammunition. it was expressly requested that commenters avoid from posting snarky comments in response, and this thread is already a shitstorm. who would want to open themselves up to that? what a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:59 PM
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i guess i'd have to see the thread, but something tells me that the problem wasn't with a woman's submissiveness, but the man referring to another human being as a jacking device.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 01:34 AM
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... you may be over-thinking this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:51 AM
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depending on the setting i might find it inappropriate, and likely more than i wanted to know about a stranger's sex life. then, move on. edit: somehow missed that this was a whisper, rather than a louder conversation. that being the case, i doubt i'd care much, unless, as mentioned before, it was just an inappropriate time/place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:18 PM
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personally, it doesn't sound like something you should worry about. she was honest, it's in her past (judging from what she said) and it sounds like you guys have a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:07 PM
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there are three different definitions above, and the one you picked out pretty closely matches the noun definition you initially shared (which i already said wasn't what i meant, even giving an additional explanation of what i was referring to instead). so, what do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 03:20 PM
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you're thinking of respect as a noun, while i'm thinking of it as a verb. the definition changes/expands then: to feel admiration for (someone or something) : to regard (someone or something) as being worthy of admiration because of good qualities to act in a way which shows that you are aware of (someone's rights, wishes, etc.) to treat or deal with (something that is good or valuable) in a proper way i generally respect others and extend kindness unless given a reason not to, and from the time…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 03:12 PM
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i don't think men owe women anything, aside from general civil behavior and respect, but i think of that as something people should generally extend to each other regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 02:52 PM
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i thought the same thing... from what i can tell, it looks to be the same study mentioned here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 06:32 PM
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that's why i said it wasn't for everyone. i don't have a problem with reponsibility though, and would much rather have say in decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 06:06 PM
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i agree with some of it, i suppose. i don't think i've put as much thought into it as the comment does, or maybe just not in the same way, but some of it seems normal. only a few objections... Men need sex. Men need respect. Men need food. Men need intense physical activity. (Lifting, playing sports w/other men.) i don't agree that men need intense physical activity, though there's nothing wrong with getting that. i don't like the mention of men needing food suggesting that i'm responsible for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 04:19 PM
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same. and wouldn't you know... that just makes me more enthusiastic about returning the favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 09:41 PM
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Woman fishes online for a casual fling on Tinder. She leaves out the fact that she is a single mother. okay. Woman fishes online for a committed relationship on a paid dating site. She leaves out the fact that she is a single mother. not okay. Woman fishes for a committed life-long partner among her social circle. She does not mention to her dates the fact that she got plowed by 100/500/5000 guys in the past (from her age 18-28). okay, for all numbers. Man fishes online for a casual fling on Tin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 03:36 AM
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i'm pretty sure the mods decided when they started changing the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 02:04 AM
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