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It’s the self identifying incels that are part of that community that are the problem. They are what people are referring to when they use the term incel. Not people without sex.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 09:57 PM
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Yes, which is something women could do with advice on. I don’t see how the article is wrong, or sexist whatsoever. It’s just offering advice where it is needed.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 03:33 PM
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What? You do realise that you started this conversation with me, right? You have never actually offered any criticism, rebuttal or feedback on what my comment or the original poster is actually discussing, merely ask bizarre questions and insult my intelligence. Here’s a question, are you sure you’re not the one deflecting here?
/r/MensRights14/04/23 01:35 PM
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Didn’t expect a therapy session on an subreddit. I am someone that cares for men’s rights and women’s rights alike, hence why I am here. I enjoy learning, particularly through conversation. This sub has taught me a lot about the unique struggle men go through in society, but I hate seeing it polluted with nonsensical, biased, whining posts like this because I know how this sub is received by the outside. I do not hate myself, nor do I deflect any emotion here. You may dislike it all you want, bu…
/r/MensRights14/04/23 12:55 PM
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Ooookay. Good chat.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 11:52 AM
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Not everything is an insult. Goodness me. If they didn't mention that single men own less homes, you would accuse them of being wrong then too. Would you rather they just didn't mention men at all, or the struggles they have? It wasn't "rubbing single men's noses in it", it was an acknowledgement- a disclaimer even. They acknowledged that single women owned more homes than single men. However, the women that do own these homes that are more likely to make a loss, do need help too. There's only s…
/r/MensRights14/04/23 11:50 AM
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No, I did not. I've been downvoted too for some reason. Here is the article I mentioned last night: https://news.sky.com/story/incels-waging-war-against-women-and-pose-emerging-threat-to-children-study-finds-12706814 I think it's quite an interesting read, particularly how often vile things were said on the platform, in comparison to the number that actually make the majority of posts.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 11:41 AM
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Do you actually want a conversation or debate regarding this, or is that bland remark all you’re going to contribute?
/r/MensRights14/04/23 01:18 AM
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Did you see the investigation into it Sky News published late last year?
/r/MensRights14/04/23 12:22 AM
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That’s due to the incel community and some of the hateful crap that comes out of there, not their sexual status.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 12:12 AM
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Yes, single women own more homes than single men. However single women are also more likely to make a loss on the investment, according to the article. Hence why they are offering advice for women on that matter. Why is that a problem? Why is that a big gender issue? Should women not receive advice that could help them not take a financial loss, just because single women overall own more homes than single men do? What a ridiculous notion.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 12:09 AM
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It isn’t taboo to dislike a woman. It’s taboo to be catty at work and gossip. If you don’t like someone, that’s your prerogative. If your coworker doesn’t dislike the same person as you, that’s theirs. Doesn’t mean they are “simping”, they just clearly don’t feel the same as you do. Either way, don’t you think you’re hypocritical for judging someone based on their undertone as being rude, while you are actively trying to gossip behind their back to isolate them from their coworkers? Quit blaming…
/r/MensRights13/04/23 11:48 PM
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Thank you for being so civil. Debates, especially on such a polarising and controversial subject, can go so sour, so quickly. Would you change the rules on abortion where you are from, if you could? If you don't mind my asking.
/r/MensRights13/04/23 04:51 PM
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My apologies for my misunderstanding. As this is an opinion poll, I thought you agreed with the policy you mentioned above. :)
/r/MensRights13/04/23 04:41 PM
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No, that is not why women want legal abortions. To claim such is not only completely incorrect, but steeped in personal bias. An unwanted pregnancy is a natural by-product of unsafe sex, but an unwanted birth isn't, thanks to our developments in medicine, science and technology. You cannot enjoy the spoils of this in your life, and deny it in the life of others. There are many, many reasons why women choose to have an abortion. "Only if she's raped." And how do you conceive they police that? Wha…
/r/MensRights13/04/23 04:33 PM
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Well I personally believe that women should have the right to a safe and legal abortion, of which is entirely her choice alone. I also believe that men should be able to terminate parenthood within a 60 day window of finding out about the pregnancy or child, which would absolve him of paying any child support, but would be liable to pay the mother for any missed child support if he chooses to become a part of the child's life at a later date. How would the first part of your comment there even w…
/r/MensRights13/04/23 04:23 PM
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Are you referring to a legal right to terminate parenthood for men, or are you saying that men should have input in the decision of whether or not to abort the pregnancy?
/r/MensRights13/04/23 04:18 PM
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"Whether the pregnancy is voluntary or involuntary"- To clarify, do you mean that women and girls should be forced to continue a pregnancy caused by rape?
/r/MensRights13/04/23 04:11 PM
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If you are talking about a literal abortion, how would that even work?
/r/MensRights10/04/23 01:56 AM
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I think it’s very easy to say OP should laugh about this when you’re on the outside looking in. Even if OP could join and comment on this post, do you really think making those remarks about Colleen or Barbara would really have gone in his favour? If they’re willing to post this stuff about someone, angering them could have made this situation so much worse for OP. Also, whether or not OP chose to engage with kink, does not make him any more at fault. He had safe, sane and consensual sex with so…
/r/MensRights09/04/23 03:41 AM
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Haha! Well thank you for that. The drunk meerkat comment proper tickled me there. Anyway. Well done for your degree, and your experiences working hard labour. That still didn't answer my question. I never said you cannot comment on this, but the original commenter. I said, if he has not been a part of academia, then by your logic, his opinion on it moot, no? You used an awful lot of words there to avoid answering and make it all about you, when I never even questioned whether you can comment. Ho…
/r/MensRights06/04/23 12:36 PM
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I know that's not what you're saying. I just know how it can feel sometimes. I'm sure there is nothing wrong with your looks or income. I do hope you find someone special though one day that never makes you feel replaceable. :)
/r/MensRights05/04/23 10:31 PM
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A penis is not a key. It does not get better with the number of sexual partners. A vagina is not a lock. It does not get worse with the number of sexual partners, It is an awful analogy that has been cherry picked to make men look good for their promiscuity, and women bad for theirs.
/r/MensRights05/04/23 10:01 PM
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By that logic, surely the original commenter's opinion on academics is moot, and is entirely unqualified to make any statement on them as he has never had to make the sacrifices associated with dedicating that much of your life to knowledge and understanding, or the mental strain of understanding and memorizing the theories and science behind it? If that's your take- you haven't worked in construction so you cannot make a comment on physical labour, then I hope you also think that as he has neve…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 09:57 PM
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The problem with incels is not the fact they are actual incels. Their lack of sex is not the problem for women, it is the ideology, terminology and attitude of that community. Hence why when a man is misogynistic, they are called an incel. Granted, being called a virgin is a form of "body count" shaming. However calling someone an incel is something else. If that makes sense? I do believe that women can be hypocritical and inflict their own double standard. They will demand that men do not slut …
/r/MensRights05/04/23 09:52 PM
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The analogy is not valid, it is shaming women, and calling that out is not nonsense. Pushing young men to believe that crap will not help them get laid.
/r/MensRights05/04/23 09:49 PM
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I can say from my own personal experiences, bad people take up the most space, but not number. There are more good people out there than bad, even if sometimes it doesn't feel that way. It can sometimes seem like everyone is just the same asshole as the last, but that's not the case. If that helps. As a lady myself in a relationship with a man, he is my world. I do not need nor want to "upgrade" him in anyway. I know plenty other women in relationships that adore their man and would never change…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 09:40 PM
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Data released by the British Pregnancy Advisory Service shows that a quarter of women who had an abortion at bpas clinics in 2016 were using either a method of hormonal contraception or a long acting reversible contraceptive method (LARC) when they presented . Over half (51.2%) were using at least one form of contraception.
/r/MensRights05/04/23 09:36 PM
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May I ask why you won't ever approach women for any reason ever again? :) It's alright if you don't want to elaborate.
/r/MensRights05/04/23 07:59 PM
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You're right, most of the time there are no serious side effects from birth control alone. Often it's not something that can put your life in danger. The side effects are still mighty unpleasant, uncomfortable and can have a serious impact on your day to day life. These methods are also not 100% reliable. Neither are condoms. Even when used correctly. Things can always go wrong. Medications can lower the pills effectiveness, the condom can split, etc.
/r/MensRights05/04/23 07:54 PM
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Many women who have unwanted pregnancies do end up carrying to full term, you're right. The statistic you are using in regards to birth control, varies depending on the type of birth control being discussed. Not all birth control has the same rate. Plus, things can just go wrong. Condoms can split or be put on incorrectly. Implants can move. Medications can cause a lessened effectiveness of the birth control pill. Plan B can only be taken by women within a certain weight category and isn't relia…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 07:47 PM
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Haha you and I, if I remember rightly, have debated this stuff before. You are far from slow! :) There are definitely people that do believe that sex is something that can be bought, traded or used. Men or women. I used the term "used" to refer to the phrase "body count" not sex in general though. :)
/r/MensRights05/04/23 07:44 PM
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If anyone, man or woman, starts screaming out of the blue at you over you being a safe distance away, speaking in a calm tone, then they are mental. That's all that is. Trying to make that a gender issue is just daft. Get off your gender bias high-horse. Why does everything have to be one extreme or another? Why can't advising men to not approach lone women in dark or secluded areas due to stranger danger, mean that you should then leave women to be kidnapped? Just be a normal human. Don't be we…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 07:39 PM
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Well, aren't you a breath of fresh air! Yes I completely agree. The analogy is sexist and outdated. It doesn't do men much credit either. A big problem with this analogy in particular is many that use it, see it as some form of evidence that they are right.
/r/MensRights05/04/23 07:35 PM
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I understand how an analogy works. In this analogy, men represent the keys, and women the locks. I don't understand the need to be pedantic. I don't agree with the logic either, it's very flawed. The reason I said that men aren't keys, and women aren't locks, is because human nature and attraction is so much more complex than that analogy allows. We aren't inanimate objects, so the analogy is flawed from the get go when used to explain something so subjective and complex. On the second point, yo…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 07:28 PM
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Thanks for the insightful, mature and thought-provoking response to this conversation. You've really added an invaluable insight into the subject. Absolutely outstanding contribution. Bravo.
/r/MensRights05/04/23 06:13 PM
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If this is the advice and guidance that is given to young men, it's no wonder that we are having older and older male virgins and sexless men, along with more shame for virginal and sexless men.. Better advice would be to stop generalising everyone into these neat and convenient categories based on flawed analogies. People, nor attraction, nor the world as a whole, is black and white. Men have so much more value in society than just the notches on their bedpost, and women have more value than th…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 05:56 PM
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Oh no problem. It happens! Thank you for clarifying that for me. :) I chose that wording due to the fact we are talking about government legislation. If abortions are illegal, then you are by extension, not allowing someone to have them. Same way we in our society are not allowed to steal, or mug, or kill someone. I don't think there is anything wrong with the wording there given the context of legality around abortion. Making abortion legal and safe, does allow women and girls a choice. Consent…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 05:41 PM
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That is why the cut off point for abortions in the UK is 24 weeks. Until the foetus is viable, it is entirely dependant on the woman or girl to carry it. When that is unwanted, it should be removed. However once it has developed enough to survive without her, that's when it gains personhood and should be kept until the end of the pregnancy. It should stay at that timeframe, as it also gives women and girls a chance to even realise they are pregnant, and go through the process to have it removed.…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 05:31 PM
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Ah I see, my apologies. Honestly, just try document everything. If everything is documented on something like Google docs, edit history can be accessed to show when entries were added. Then it can be linked up with proved visitation, etc. Just an idea. Might make it slightly less of a "he said, she said". I've just heard that advice given to people facing harassment, stalking etc, so it may apply here.
/r/MensRights05/04/23 05:26 PM
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How is my interpretation malicious? I do recommend you have a look online to see how this analogy is actually being used and explained by others. The analogy at the most simple, and most commonly accepted explanation explains that a key (man) that can open many locks is a master key, whereas a lock (woman) that can be opened by many keys is a shitty lock (no value). The problem with the analogy is it is used as evidence for the theory that women should save themselves whereas men should sleep wi…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 05:22 PM
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There are many types of hardship out there. Not all are to do with physical labor. Someone that does physical labor as a job is not guaranteed to have gone through more hardship than someone at an office job. Physical labor is more suited to men, yes. This is due to the biological differences between men and women. Academia can lead to many, many different fields so to say that many people who go down that path become therapists is wildly incorrect. Many people who study Psychology go on to be t…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 05:14 PM
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I know the world does not revolve around me, or what I believe it should be. I am simply saying that a reductionist analogy that is used for shaming women and bringing up men for body count, does not take into account the nuance, thought processes, or the complex nature of attraction that is the human race. We are not black and white. We are not animals that will hump a lampshade. Attraction is complex. The idea that men are only attracted to young, fertile women with birthing hips, and women at…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 05:09 PM
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The second trimester, or 24 weeks. That is when the foetus is now viable and could potentially live outside of the mother. That is when the foetus is now a baby. This timeframe is also chosen within the UK to form our current abortion laws. I really don't know where you are speaking to these women. If you have had 11 abortions, this sounds like self destructive and harming behaviours. The problem there is not the abortion, but the mental illness. Putting yourself through that process willingly o…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 05:04 PM
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I’m guessing some words are missing from your first sentence there so not entirely sure why you are saying. It should be a right for women. Women should be able to choose whether or not they want to bring a life into the world. No one should be punished. I’m not sure why you see allowing women the right to make an informed and safe decision regarding whether or not they want to continue a pregnancy as treating them like a child? Safe and legal abortions offer a choice that women can make. That’s…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 04:41 PM
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My goodness. People are not that textbook. We are no longer cave people battering each other with clubs for a potential mate. Don’t you think society has moved on from this crap? You now have more couples than ever not wanting to have children. More couples practicing non-monogamy. There is far more nuance, emotion and tact to things. A woman does not choose her partner because of his previous sexual experience. A man’s value in society is not dependent on that, either. The world is not that bla…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 04:25 PM
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It is her body. It is inside her body. It isn’t a right, but it god damn should be a right for women. There are dozen of contraceptive methods, yes. None that are 100% safe.
/r/MensRights05/04/23 04:19 PM
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Depends which contraceptive method is used. You’re conveniently leaving out all of the awful side effects of hormonal birth control and the risk associated with taking it. You’re skipping the impact of education on safe sex practices. Condoms when used correctly is effective 98%. So if you take 100 people, you can average 2 people will have a condom not protect them from an unwanted pregnancy. That’s of course if it’s used correctly, not including those that don’t. Most women do not use abortion…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 04:18 PM
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Good I’m glad he was able to get that in place. Really hope this is sorted for him soon, and someone else in the comments can provide better advice than I!
/r/MensRights05/04/23 04:08 PM
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People are having sex more and more. People no longer wait for marriage. Plus there is less shame around having abortions, and less risk when it’s legal. You say all of this, however, condoms and birth control can fail. Besides abstinence, there is no method 100%. Even with abstinence, there’s always a chance that someone else will assault you. An unwanted pregnancy can happen to any woman or girl. No one, man or woman, should be punished for having consensual sex with another consenting adult i…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 04:07 PM
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Yeah that’s true. Then again I don’t know how well that would hold up really. Is there a form of restraining order he can take without risking contact with his little ones?
/r/MensRights05/04/23 04:00 PM
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Can you elaborate how?
/r/MensRights05/04/23 03:59 PM
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Yeah it’s just manipulation to an extreme. The gifts could be used against her though, thankfully. Hard to claim that someone assaulted you if you sent them a box of chocolates the day after. I really hope this can be resolved for your friend soon. Might be worth him getting some therapy while all this is happening, if he isn’t already? 😊
/r/MensRights05/04/23 03:51 PM
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Then why did you even mention physical labor? 😂
/r/MensRights05/04/23 03:43 PM
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I’m beginning to doubt your username here buddy, what are you talking about? 😂
/r/MensRights05/04/23 03:38 PM
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What? “90% of therapists are females, most of whom have never done any physical labor” is what you said. How have I made anything up?
/r/MensRights05/04/23 03:30 PM
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Why would a therapist need to have done physical labor to be a good therapist?
/r/MensRights05/04/23 03:26 PM
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Ah, so women don’t want you to approach them to hit on them in secluded areas due to stranger danger… so you wouldn’t call the police if she’s being kidnapped? Way to prove you’re not the kind of person she’s worried about, my guy!
/r/MensRights05/04/23 03:25 PM
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Oh bless him. Your poor friend. If he keeps a log of it all, it can help. Can use it to build a harassment case against her, or if she slips up, to prove she sent him gifts after an alleged incident.
/r/MensRights05/04/23 03:20 PM
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Hey! Sorry can you please confirm what you mean by that first statement there? I don’t know if it’s me being slow, but clarification would help. 😊 Oh yes definitely! Reproductive rights for all is 100% needed. Abortions for women, and financial/paper abortions for men. Denying women the right to an abortion is removing her right to her bodily autonomy. Denying men the right to a paper abortion is financial abuse. Women can be just as guilty of the things above. I’m not denying it or saying that …
/r/MensRights05/04/23 03:18 PM
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I’m so sorry that your friend is going through this. Only thing I can think of is to write down every single attempt at contact she makes. Be it a gift or a note passed through the children- anything. Write it down, take photos of it, keep dates and times received. Keep a log of everything. If any additional false claim is made, it may help his case if he can show a record of all of these gifts etc.
/r/MensRights05/04/23 03:11 PM
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Thanks for sharing this! Really shocking how this system is continuing. The lack of reproductive rights in the US is terrifying.
/r/MensRights05/04/23 03:08 PM
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Now I’m not a feminist, however I’m not a fan of the above things either. The reason why the lock and key analogy is a load of horseshit, is because men aren’t keys and women aren’t locks, and sex isn’t unlocking a lock. The items chosen deliberately favour the man and enforce a double standard that women are often victim of. It also paints the female participant as passive, and sex as something done to a woman, rather than something a woman does. If that makes sense? All those nonsense analogie…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 03:00 PM
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Before we begin, it’s not great that your reference here is webmd. However, you are deliberately misleading here. Even your own source does not back up your argument. According to your source, sexual activity improves things like your quality and amount of sleep, anxiety and immune system, due to a number of factors- such as hormonal changes. A lack of sexual activity does not make them worse. It simply just doesn’t improve them from their natural state. For example, the hormones released from e…
/r/MensRights22/03/23 10:43 PM
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How am I attacking you? I’m really not sure where that has come from. Blue balls/vulva can be cured by a wank, hence why I pointed out that periods cannot, as my argument was that you cannot compare the two. Yes, people experience different symptoms and levels of pain for literally any biological function. However if you are experiencing real, genuine pain from that area, then that is not blue balls and you should go to a doctor or hospital. That is not normal and not the same thing as blue ball…
/r/MensRights17/03/23 11:25 PM
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I mean, yes. I don’t understand why you think that’s a gotcha moment. Periods are uncomfortable, and are not serious in of itself. No one said that periods pose a serious threat to life or livelihood. Periods can also be painful, due to the cramps obviously, but other symptoms of PMS that go with it, such as stomach aches, joint pain or headaches. Women also do not receive mass sympathy for them. The argument relating to birth control though is incorrect. Yes, a side effect of using birth contro…
/r/MensRights17/03/23 10:23 PM
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Epididymal Hypertension can be uncomfortable, but is not serious in of itself. It can literally be solved with masturbation, as per every source on the subject. You cannot compare the two. Being very angry about a lack of sex is not normal, healthy, and certainly won’t lead to sympathy. Why would you be angry someone doesn’t want to sleep with you?
/r/MensRights17/03/23 09:48 PM
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You do realise that sexual appetite is not something limited to men and only men, right? Women also have it, and are certainly not sympathised for it. They are judged harshly for it. Epididymal hypertension can be uncomfortable yes, but can be literally solved with an orgasm. A partner isn’t needed for that. If there is significant pain, then that is not caused by a lack of sexual activity and is a sign of a greater medical issue that should be discussed with a doctor. As for mental distress, th…
/r/MensRights17/03/23 09:12 PM
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Pain and mental distress… from being horny? Women get sympathy over their menstrual pain because it’s actual pain. Then if course there’s the other symptoms that go with, such as headaches, tiredness, joint pain, bloating and breast soreness. Men have genuine problems in society that need to be fixed. Let’s not try pretend that one of those problems is a lack of sympathy toward them when they’re horny.
/r/MensRights17/03/23 08:37 PM
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The study you’re using for not only the categories, but also the overall statistics, has been removed. All my other research does indicate though that your understanding of “Closed as Informational Report” is false. Let’s not forget while we discuss this, the current investigation into policing within the U.K., in which police have been accused of applying personal bias to rape investigations. Sexual activity taking place does not mean that rape took place. In the case of marital rape, or rape w…
/r/MensRights25/02/23 05:05 PM
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So… You have accidentally done this to someone, by your admission. Which means you noticed that the event was happening, and you were accidentally doing something sexual and non consensual to a stranger. I hope that when you noticed you were doing this, you adjusted your stance or your footing, or just simply moved away, to stop doing this to the other person. Why didn’t that man move/adjust/stop doing this to your sister? Why, instead of admitting that a man did something wrong to your sister, …
/r/MensRights24/02/23 07:06 PM
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There are plenty, plenty flaws with feminism. However to blindly apply that rule is not smart. Feminism claims that FGM, child marriage and discrimination is wrong. Is the opposite the truth? When applying this logic to this problem at hand, it is just as wrong to assume every woman that reports being raped is a liar based on her gender, as it is to assume every man accused is guilty based on his.
/r/MensRights24/02/23 03:18 PM
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Or, a man decided to take advantage of a full and busy train to do this to her. I’m assuming you will have been on crowded public transport before. Has this ever happened to you, or have you noticed you’re accidentally doing this to someone else? Id bet not. If this was done to her, then it’s only human to panic and also assume other bad intent from the other person, ie- that he was going to follow her or be a danger.
/r/MensRights24/02/23 12:55 PM
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Knowing how flawed the justice system is, and the high bar for evidence needed for a case- never mind conviction, I’d say it’s best to remain on the fence on cases in the news where possible. Sure, we would all like to say that we believe in innocent until proven guilty through and through. However, if your babysitter was accused of a sex crime, would you still want them babysitting your kids? If a family member confided in you about an attack they went through a year ago, would you still assume…
/r/MensRights24/02/23 02:33 AM
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No, that is not correct. “If we decide to close the investigation, it’s probably because we've completed our initial steps and there are no further leads we can proportionately follow at that time. Sometimes we receive new information or discover new evidence, in which case we can reopen the investigation and send you an update.” https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/acr/after-you-report-a-crime/ The cases are closed because there is a lack of evidence. I didn’t think I would r…
/r/MensRights24/02/23 02:27 AM
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We will never know the true statistics regarding sexual violence or domestic violence, or false allegations of these crimes. You can easily argue that, “well from my experience and from the experiences of those I’ve read online, the number should be higher.” Do you think someone that actually committed these acts would admit it? If they have the broken moral compass enough to do these acts, then accusing their victim is really not out of the question. Same with someone who lies about others comm…
/r/MensRights23/02/23 03:41 PM
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… You do realise right that sexual violence is a notoriously difficult thing to prove? Police closing a case due to a lack of evidence does not mean that the event did not take place as reported, or that the person reporting this was lying. It just means that there isn’t evidence to take this further.
/r/MensRights23/02/23 03:34 PM
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I understand completely. Sorry if it sounded like I was accusing you of that! I just didn’t think he was the best example. When discussing this sort of thing, I just think that the other example is better suited and is more directly comparable, if it’s true that Lindsay has PPP. You do make a good point though that I hadn’t considered. I’m not sure how I feel about that. I do think that there is a difference between morally corrupt, and mentally ill. While the two can result in the same conseque…
/r/MensRights10/02/23 02:20 AM
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They gave her a cocktail of 13 different psychiatric medications over a period of 3 months. Her poor husband had to keep 24 hour watch over her while she suffered. He only left the house for 20 minutes and came back to that. It’s just an absolutely awful situation.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 11:45 PM
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“Sane people don’t commit murders.” … “Mental health is just an excuse” You hear the irony there, right?
/r/MensRights09/02/23 11:39 PM
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Apparently it was postpartum depression that became psychosis through lack of proper treatment.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 11:37 PM
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Chris Watts did what he did because he wanted to be with his mistress. Lindsay did what she did because of postpartum psychosis, allegedly. I get your point. However, you cannot compare the two really. A better example would be Lionel Desmond. Both Lionel’s case, and Lindsay’s case were reported on as a tragedy.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 11:36 PM
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Which case did they mention?
/r/MensRights09/02/23 11:31 PM
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He may have admitted it was false at a later date. However, it just shows they had a good forensic psychologist study him, doesn’t it? He spent time in mental hospitals, before they sent him to prison. I never said that mental hospitals are any better or worse than prison. I don’t know where you got that from. Do you have a source to show that more female criminals falsely claim insanity than males? I would like to read that. The justice system isn’t perfect. To claim that it is would be a lie. …
/r/MensRights09/02/23 11:30 PM
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It’s a persons mental state that can lead to that. If you have regard for it, then acknowledging that a bad mental state can cause more than someone being a bit sad sometimes is important. You’re right- it is a taboo subject. Especially the ugly side of poor mental health. Postpartum psychosis, which is what this women allegedly was suffering from, is a medical emergency. Leaving it untreated and expecting no harm to the individual or those around them, is like idly watching someone have a heart…
/r/MensRights09/02/23 11:17 PM
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Son of Sam admitted that he lied about the demons and dog telling him what to do, was found mentally competent to stand trail, and pleaded guilty. He isn’t the best example to prove your point. However, there are plenty of male killers that have been found criminally insane. To name a few: Ed Gein Peter Sutcliffe Ronnie Kray Robert Napper There is not a narrow criteria for men to be found criminally insane. Well, I suppose it depends what you view prison as. Is it a tool of punishment, or reform…
/r/MensRights09/02/23 12:49 PM
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It’s not a gender issue. You’ve just proven yourself that you also have no regard for the persons mental state, regardless of the persons gender. Even her poor husband has said that what happened wasn’t her, that she was sick, and that he forgives her. Belittling, disregarding and ignoring mental illness doesn’t make it go away, or make it less dangerous. No, it won’t bring the children back. However, if her medical history is true, then proper medical care could have prevented this from happeni…
/r/MensRights09/02/23 12:34 PM
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Her own husband has confirmed it. He has forgiven her, and said that what happened was not committed by her. Postpartum psychosis is genuine mental disorder that can have awful consequences on the woman, and those around her. Dismissing it, or acting like it doesn’t exist, doesn’t eliminate it, unfortunately. There are plenty of men that have committed crime and are in secure mental facilities, as they were deemed criminally insane. If she is found to have had postpartum psychosis, then likely s…
/r/MensRights08/02/23 10:07 PM
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If this was the work of postpartum psychosis, then proper treatment in a secure facility would have prevented this from happening. She wouldn’t have been able to harm herself, or her children. The burden would not have been placed upon her husband to keep watch over her. She’d have received therapy and medications to stable her mind, and could have later rejoined society safely. As it is rare, there is a lot of judgement around the thoughts mothers are plagued with as a result of postpartum OCD,…
/r/MensRights08/02/23 08:08 PM
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Allegedly, she had Postpartum Psychosis, which is rare but can lead to situations like this. Improved healthcare, awareness and understanding of the mental impact of childbirth would help limit these types of situations, imo.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 06:30 PM
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Just talk to your wife. You don’t need to say anything regarding the thoughts on cheating, or what you’ve stopped doing. Just talk to her, tell her that you wish for more intimacy in your relationship, and discuss how you both can work to improve it.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 06:25 PM
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I completely agree with you. To claim we need religion to be decent is absolutely ludicrous, when so many religious folks act without decency, understanding or morality. I’m sorry to hear that your friend met that reaction when he came out. I do hope he is now in a place where it is accepted.
/r/MensRights04/02/23 09:52 PM
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I don’t know why you have commented this to me, 73 days later. I haven’t said anything about it being only one sided. I literally praised the men and women that are fighting equally.
/r/MensRights02/02/23 09:43 PM
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So, you are happy to think that he would forgive her for doing something so utterly abusive, such as making up a false allegation, and get back with her. Yet, you seem to think it’s impossible that she forgave him for SA & DV and got back with him, despite the overwhelming amount of statistics we have that reflect the likelihood a victim will return to their abuser?
/r/MensRights02/02/23 06:31 PM
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Well, I suppose just do what was asked. There is a safety element, unfortunately. Homophobia can show up in extremely ugly and unfortunate ways, so it’s good that she wanted to check first. Like you said, i don’t see why he couldn’t do her that favour. Just slipped it into conversation at some point, there’s always a way. Even if he told her that it’ll take some time so it does happen more organically.
/r/MensRights28/01/23 01:45 AM
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It’s not a disability, it’s just a part of being a female. A male doesn’t have them, so doesn’t need that time. You say it’s okay for a woman with endo to take that time off, but do you even know how difficult it is and how long it takes to be diagnosed with that? Or about general ignorance from healthcare professions when it comes to period symptoms?
/r/MensRights26/01/23 11:18 PM
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Well, people age and change, so unlikely so. I doubt you also are the same at your age as you were when you were 14. I haven’t seen anywhere talking about period leave, but no I don’t think it’s a bad thing. Women with conditions such as endo are in an incredible amount of pain with their periods. Hell, women without a condition can still experience a whole host of negative, awful side effects that I’m sure you wouldn’t want to be expected to work through.
/r/MensRights26/01/23 10:51 PM
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Okay, and what should be done about that? Kids always used the “need to use the loo” line to do just that until teachers started being more strict. The alternative is to blanket ban leaving the classroom to use the bathroom for any reason, and just have girls bleeding throughout the hour into their uniform and chairs. Kids will use any excuse. There’s not much you can do about it without penalising the innocent.
/r/MensRights26/01/23 05:28 PM
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How do women weaponise their period at school or in the workplace?
/r/MensRights26/01/23 05:18 PM
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Well, to be fair, she was only wanting to find out their views and if they would accept her first. I don’t see why that would be a problem for the dad to fish out before his daughter potentially risks exclusion from the family, if not her safety.
/r/MensRights26/01/23 05:13 PM
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… You do realise that if someone is going to lie and say you raped her, lying about your personal relationship with her or your behaviour won’t be too morally challenging for them? Literally all this achieves is being dismissive, rude or hostile toward a potential rape victim. That’s it. A liar will just lie. Would you hold this same attitude if your mother, sister, girlfriend, wife, friend told you they were raped? Would you automatically disbelieve them too and avoid at all costs?
/r/MensRights22/01/23 04:02 AM
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People do not owe you the gory details of their lives, just because you made a bad take on Reddit. I'm telling you I have heard that phrase. Others have told you that they too have heard that phrase.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 07:54 PM
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You have got to be trolling now, if you weren't already.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 07:27 PM
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I’ve read that document. She also said in the same quotation that she wanted him punished. Don’t cherry pick information to represent a false image of a victim of sexual violence. You also claimed there were no witnesses originally. The document you shared there claims there were in fact multiple witnesses, including two brave young men that restrained him until police arrived. They caught him in the act.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 01:45 AM
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Are you sure “sexually mature children” is really what you want to go for there?
/r/MensRights16/01/23 10:32 PM
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She did not ask for no time. I suggest you read her actual letter: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2852615-Stanford-Victim-Letter-Impact-Statement-From “I told the probation officer I do not want Brock to rot away in prison. I did not say he does not deserve to be behind bars. The probation officer’s recommendation of a year or less in county jail is a soft time­out, a mockery of the seriousness of his assaults, an insult to me and all women. It gives the message that a stranger can be i…
/r/MensRights16/01/23 06:10 PM
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Go back through the names I sent you. There were some there that didn’t even get put on the sex offenders register after being found guilty of sex crimes. Now do you agree that sometimes a judge is just shite, and that wealth and status matter more than gender when it comes to this?
/r/MensRights16/01/23 01:33 PM
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Okay, do you have any better of a source for that case that includes any actual information? That provided nothing, not even names or decent information from the court case. I googled it, and could only find the one article. Doesn’t look like it actually happened. As I’ve said, you claim “men have needs” isn’t a phrased used. However, two people in the comments of those post have told you they have personally been told that phrase. You argue it doesn’t exist with proof that it does, and complete…
/r/MensRights16/01/23 01:31 PM
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So... you acknowledge then that this is something that can get someone of either gender a more lenient sentence, and it's not just a female only luxury?
/r/MensRights16/01/23 02:04 AM
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I have also been told the "boys will be boys" line, and "men have needs". Just because those in a spotlight tend to be more conscious with what they say, doesn't mean that these phrases are not held commonplace.
/r/MensRights16/01/23 02:03 AM
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No, it is not a lie. Rape was legal within marriage. It was a fight to change the laws. It was only changed after the landmark case of R v R in 1991, and was met by backlash from men. Novelist Piers Paul Read wrote: "If he means to prosecute every man who forces his attentions upon a reluctant wife, a significant part of the male population may find itself behind bars." https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/3932/rape-in-marriage ​ A husband could enforce conjugal rights on his wife with or …
/r/MensRights16/01/23 02:00 AM
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Okay, how about the fact rape in marriages wasn’t made illegal until 1992 because it was considered a man’s right to fulfil his “needs” in his marriage? There’s Shafeeq Sheikh. Robert Richards. The Steubenville High School rape case. There have been plenty of cases where the rapist did not receive appropriate sentencing due to this. Can you please name some cases where women have received lesser sentences due to ‘women having needs’? Not just women receiving lesser sentences. But women receiving…
/r/MensRights16/01/23 12:32 AM
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Women do not typically serve no time. The reason that women aren’t sent down for rape, and their crimes aren’t called rape, is because of the definition of it. The current definition of rape doesn’t just harm men, either. Headlines are chosen to deliberately convey a message. The message they chose was his achievements over his crime. It wasn’t accidental. No, the ‘needs’ aspect isn’t directly brought up. You could argue it is based on the father’s reference of sexual violence as “twenty minutes…
/r/MensRights15/01/23 11:38 PM
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Brock Turner received 6 months prison time & 3 years probation for three felonies: assault with intent to rape an intoxicated woman, sexually penetrating an intoxicated person with a foreign object, and sexually penetrating an unconscious person with a foreign object. He only served 3 months out of the six. Brock’s father asked for leniency for his son as "his life will never be the one that he dreamed about and worked so hard to achieve," arguing that punishment was a "steep price to pay for 20…
/r/MensRights15/01/23 10:50 PM
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Brock Turner Austin James Wilkerson Mark Hulett John Enochs David Wise Not a feminist. However, here are some of the examples you wanted.
/r/MensRights15/01/23 10:24 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/MensRights13/01/23 08:50 PM
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Some women do, yes. That is wrong. Generalisations do no good.
/r/MensRights13/01/23 08:49 PM
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What are you talking about? You’re saying that the universal right to vote and abortion access is because of gynocentric society? If it was a gynocentric society, then women wouldn’t have had to fight longer for the right to vote, and we wouldn’t have the situation with Roe v Wade in the US. Society isn’t patriarchal or gynocentric. It’s just governed by the rich, popular and powerful. They don’t want to make things fairer in family courts because they need men to do the manual labor jobs no one…
/r/MensRights11/01/23 07:47 PM
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Not wrong. The laws surrounding hate crime has become too lax and need tightening up. It’s too open to interpretation and misuse.
/r/MensRights10/01/23 11:59 PM
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I’m sure people said that at one point about the right to vote and abortion access.
/r/MensRights10/01/23 10:42 PM
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You can’t advocate for something though when you have no idea how it can be actually applied to society feasibly. As I said, there should be reproductive rights for both genders. Legal abortions for men so no man has to be forced into fatherhood and child custody payments for a baby he doesn’t not want. Legal and safe abortions so no woman has to be forced into motherhood of a baby she does not want. Surely that’s the better end goal, rather than wanting pain and suffering for both?
/r/MensRights10/01/23 02:45 PM
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So, you want a law that relies purely on intuition and gut feeling?? There will be plenty that assume one way or the other. False rape allegations wouldn’t be such a huge problem, if people could so easily tell if someone is lying or not.
/r/MensRights10/01/23 02:39 PM
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You see though how they will simply have to choose from the options above, right? Again, why must someone violate a woman’s body before she can make decisions regarding it? If a pregnancy can be a punishment, then why is someone deserving of that punishment for having consensual sex with another adult? Surely what we should be striving for here is reproductive rights for all. Abortion access for women, a legal abortion right for men. You say you find it hilarious, but there are women dying from …
/r/MensRights10/01/23 02:35 PM
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You say that abortion should only be allowed for victims of rape, incest or where the mother is at risk. How do you believe that should be policed? When it comes to rape and incest, how is that to be proved early enough for a safe and easy abortion? What’s the criteria? For instance, you could say that if the girl/woman tells the doctor that these crimes have taken place, then she should be allowed the abortion. However, an unwanted pregnancy would be life ruining for many and I don’t doubt for …
/r/MensRights10/01/23 02:25 PM
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Yep. Got banned from that sub pretty quick.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 11:28 PM
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Yep. Exactly this. It’s so unbelievably sad, and I really hope that any fella that is struggling and sees the worship of Andrew Tate’s ideology on emotion, depression and suicide is able to chalk it down to bullshit and doesn’t take it to heart. There is nothing wrong with demonstrating and expressing emotion, male or female. It’s so unbelievably healthy to stop bottling everything up. That’s a brilliant idea tbf. Might actually help others!
/r/MensRights30/12/22 02:00 PM
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Absolutely. 🙌🏻 It’s crazy that he’s being hailed as some MRA saint by some, when he has made it clear time and time again that he does not care. He mocks men that show emotion, that enjoy different hobbies, that demonstrate loyalty and love to their partners, that are overweight or non-muscular. He has nothing but distance these young men from not only the people around them, but reality itself. The G in “Top G” now stands for Greta. 😂
/r/MensRights30/12/22 01:52 PM
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“I believe that feeling depressed is real. I don’t believe that depression as a clinical disease is real.” “I do know how to administer CPR. However, I will not administer CPR unless you’re a hot female… If you’re some fat dude and you just had a heart attack and I don’t really know you, you’re gonna die.” “Men who live without self control are the kind of men who cry when their girlfriend cheats on them, ‘cus she certainly does, because she doesn’t respect a little cry baby, and she’s only with…
/r/MensRights30/12/22 01:41 PM
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Oh we all want him to shut up. 🤣
/r/MensRights30/12/22 12:18 AM
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Agreed.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 12:04 AM
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Well… Going off the title alone, he isn’t wrong!
/r/MensRights29/12/22 11:53 PM
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Or… The violence toward women is overwhelming, there’s an astronomically increased risk of death for female victims of domestic violence, and a violent culture toward women is heavily ingrained in their society to the point 92% of women believe being beat by their husbands is acceptable if they go out without his permission, denying sex or burning food.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 04:13 PM
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The original comment, which looks to have been removed, disregarded all issues that women are facing there as “having to wear a bedsheet”. That warrants correcting and highlighting. This is also not just about the financial aspect of education. If it was, then they wouldn’t have fired female teachers based on gender. If it was just about money, then they wouldn’t have removed all girls that were currently in education. They wouldn’t have fired women from most job roles. Comparing the issues men …
/r/MensRights29/12/22 04:01 PM
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Violence against women is so normalised there that a study, supported by UNICEF, revealed 92 percent of women in Afghanistan feel that a husband is justified in hitting or beating his wife for at least one of these reasons: going out without telling the husband, neglecting the children, arguing with the husband, refusing sex, and burning the food. Other research also found that an overwhelming majority of women, 87.2%, experienced at least one form of physical, sexual or psychological violence o…
/r/MensRights29/12/22 12:27 PM
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She didn’t body shame him. She didn’t remark once on her body. She said he was overcompensating, being petty, and a bit of a loser. What need did he have to start tweeting at her in the first place? None. He has commented directly on body shapes and types of both men and women, and shamed them. He is openly misogynistic, and misandrist. Direct this nonsense toward him.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 02:57 AM
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I highly suggest you spend 5 minutes looking into the domestic violence rates against women in Afghanistan. While previously the EVAW Law provided crucial support for Afghan women, under the current regime there is no similar law or court. The lack of a provision to prosecute crimes committed against women has created an environment of impunity for the perpetrators, making violence normal and acceptable. We hear about disturbing cases in social media. For instance, in one case a woman went to co…
/r/MensRights29/12/22 02:36 AM
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Since sweeping back to power, the Taliban has abolished the Ministry of Women's Affairs, a key body to promote women's rights through law. In its place, the new regime set up the notorious Ministry for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice, which has become instrumental in curtailing the rights of women. It has also rolled back the Elimination of Violence against Women Law, signed in 2009 to protect women from abuses -- including forced marriage, leaving them without recourse to j…
/r/MensRights28/12/22 02:52 PM
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Women there have been removed from every stage of education, from teaching positions, and government facilities. Not every woman works a cozy desk job in the West. You need to go outside more and talk to more people if you truly believe that. This comment thread is specifically talking about the treatment of women in the Middle East. Why can’t I discuss the treatment of women in the Middle East in a conversation on that exact topic? If you want to also discuss what men are going through there, t…
/r/MensRights28/12/22 01:16 PM
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Again, try read my actual comment. It was addressing the numerous attempts comments made under this post to diminish what women are going through. To be fair, even acting like the rights being stripped away from women is simply due to economics and scarcity of education- when female teachers have been fired and women already in education have been removed, is doing the injustice they are facing an incredible disservice. In the same way that you are saying above, why is it a problem that I call o…
/r/MensRights28/12/22 01:12 PM
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I have decided to make it one? Did you not read the other comments? Or even my comment that you’re replying to, where I explained why I discussed what is happening to women, due to commenters deliberately attempting to water down the issues that women are going through over there by comparing them to ‘just having to wear a bedsheet’?
/r/MensRights28/12/22 01:09 PM
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Why does it even need to be a competition? Men and women are going through oppression over there, just in different ways. There’s no need for us to try compare and contrast the two, or to chalk women’s oppression down to wearing a bedsheet, or whatever that commenter said. The comments have disappeared for me, I don’t know if they were deleted. However they were attempting to completely diminish the harm being done to women, which is why I felt the need to explain some of what is happening for a…
/r/MensRights28/12/22 05:45 AM
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… A rational emotional response to someone being ‘creepy’ toward you is to be scared though? She was followed home, that is scary. If that man chose to do something against her, likelihood is that she wouldn’t be able to stop him.
/r/MensRights28/12/22 05:28 AM
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Actually look at what the Taliban are enforcing on women & girls, and how they’re being treated. The Taliban announced on September 12, 2021, that women could attend universities with gender-segregated classrooms while wearing compulsory hijabs. But in March 2022, the government barred girls from attending secondary school. Girls' secondary schools were set to resume on March 23, 2021, after months-long closures imposed after the Taliban takeover. The group ordered them shut just hours after the…
/r/MensRights28/12/22 05:25 AM
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… He has not named the other man involved. Not given away any indication that would reveal his identity. OP is just asking for advice on the situation, why does he have to prove jack to a bunch of strangers before receiving it? You providing advice to OP doesn’t actually harm the other person. If the advice is to report the nurse, then an investigation will happen and if there is not enough evidence to back up OP’s claims, then nothing will come of it anyway. However, if OP is right and this nur…
/r/MensRights28/12/22 05:11 AM
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Do you not realise what happened to the women and girls in these countries if they do not wear these garments?
/r/MensRights28/12/22 05:07 AM
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I get what you are saying, but we have seen in the West that women are capable of working and being educated right along men. Enforcing these strict gender roles does a disservice to common men and women everywhere. Men are treated like workhorses, and women are at their husbands mercy. There’s no good reason for it, and it is oppression.
/r/MensRights28/12/22 05:04 AM
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I understand what you are saying here, however that still does not mean that this mindset does not still exist. Just because these views are outdated, and receive backlash, does not mean that these aren't views held still. Racism is an outdated idea, and is not supported by the general public, however, people are still racist. People still hold racist views. If you consider the large number of self-identifying incels that are out there, despite the incel movement being disliked by the general pu…
/r/MensRights23/12/22 05:41 PM
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How do you propose that the gender imbalance in teaching is fixed? If more of one gender is interested in a certain career path than the other, how are you fixing that? To preface, I disagree with gender-exclusive scholarships and preferential hiring of one group of people to meet targets in diversity. What way do you suggest pushing boys into teaching, and girls out of it? Studies have shown that a bias does exist for both male and female teachers. This is not just based on gender, but appearan…
/r/MensRights23/12/22 05:31 PM
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If you disagree with the disadvantages boys are going through in the education system, then surely you would not wish that on an entire generation of girls either. Possibly even more, since systemic changes to education do not happen often. I understand what the person you are replying to is saying, however it is a bit redundant. No two people learn the same way, and there is a difference in the best methods for boys and for girls. The best education system is the one that both boys and girls ca…
/r/MensRights23/12/22 05:16 PM
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Please remember the context in which fairness was mentioned. The issue raised by the person I responded to, is that boys, on average, do not respond to education methods used in schools, in comparison to girls. A balance needs to be found. If a fix is implemented without considering balance, you could create an education system that leaves girls at a disadvantage instead. Neither of which is fair. A middle ground, or method that suits both boys and girls, needs to be found so neither gender face…
/r/MensRights23/12/22 05:11 PM
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How would you say our education system doesn’t suit men? Also, how would you recommend fixing this so it does suit men, while maintaining a balance so women also benefit fairly?
/r/MensRights23/12/22 01:38 PM
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Hope not. It’ll be quite silly if so. Also, quite insulting to the fella mentioned in the article.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 12:09 AM
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… Are you talking about infanticide or abortion here?
/r/MensRights20/12/22 11:54 PM
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I honestly do not mean to insult you, so I hope you don’t take it that way. However, if you do not believe that the mindset of “she dressed like a piece of meat”, “she was asking for it”, “that’s what you get” when it comes to SA exists, then I do feel like you are being deliberately ignorant. Unfortunately this is something that is believed by a shocking number. Hell, I was only arguing against this the other week with someone. People in the spotlight tend to be more careful with their words, h…
/r/MensRights20/12/22 02:55 PM
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You’re right. Nowadays, clothing and underwear is seldom brought up. However, you do still see many individuals justifying sexual violence due to the outfit the woman was wearing. That they were “asking for it”. Clothing, underwear in particular, was something used in court to claim that the woman wasn’t a victim, and must have consented since she was wearing nice underwear. The post is not refuting the need to know clothing for identification purposes, or for validating an accusation. Discussin…
/r/MensRights20/12/22 01:38 PM
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It is relevant as the book’s main plot features strict government control over reproduction, including forced pregnancy. This is why it is relevant to Roe V Wade. As the story is told via first person, you get insight into what that is like. It also highlights how government intervention and restrictions when it comes to reproductive rights is a slippery slope to authoritarian regime that affects everyone- including men. We are also seeing declining fertility rates in our time, which is what spe…
/r/MensRights16/12/22 03:08 PM
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I know that. However, unfortunately for these crimes it is incredibly hard to prove. Sadly, an innocent verdict does not mean that the person is actually innocent.
/r/MensRights15/12/22 08:44 PM
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Younger people are naturally more gullible. They are more likely to vote based on their influences in life, ie family, friends m, social media or school. They are also more likely to fall for propaganda and false promises. They have, on average, very little life experience. Why would we give the vote to a group of people that are still in compulsory education? Lowering the age to vote is a terrible idea.
/r/MensRights15/12/22 08:43 PM
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… Wanting help isn’t a bad or devious thing. Someone that is so depressed that they are willing to hurt themselves do need attention, likely medical or with a therapist. I don’t think it’s great to be calling failed suicide attempts devious, or doing it purely for attention.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 11:24 PM
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I understand that, as you say, you have not read it. However, it does actually have a lot of relevance and while the book does centre around the female experience in this dystopian world (as we have a first person, female main character), it does also discuss the male side too. With fertility rates dropping, and Roe v Wade, it’s very relevant- since the book discusses reproductive rights.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 11:10 PM
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I think there should be a grace period where the father gets the option to choose if he wants to be a part of the child’s life. If not, then he shouldn’t have any rights to the child, nor should have to pay toward it.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 11:03 PM
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I get what you are saying, however a lack of evidence is not a lack of crime. Especially when it is something so hard to prove. I do think these friends of his are in the wrong. From the sounds of things, they are young, immature and don’t realise the gravity of what they are saying. They should be corrected, and OP shouldn’t have these things said to him at all. However, I do think the fact that OP said the police were actually called on him, and that the couple broke up at that time, doesn’t l…
/r/MensRights14/12/22 11:02 PM
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… We are talking about your girlfriend, dude. That’s why I mentioned sympathy. I did not attack you, or was disrespectful in any way. Simply pointing out an observation I had. Please don’t over exaggerate. I do hope you hold the same sentiment when you read posts on this subreddit regarding addictions men are more likely to have than women. I’m sure it’s not easy for the partners of drug addicts or alcoholics, and there’s no box to tick on dating apps or sites to exclude those either. Like I sai…
/r/MensRights14/12/22 02:34 AM
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I wouldn’t really say you were raising awareness, particularly. I understand the point you are trying to make. However, the post itself and the comments you have made regarding ego etc, aren’t exactly the most sympathetic. You did also post it to the one sub where you know that you are likely to have supporters on this, as I have seen other posts similar to this since I’ve been here. Social media can be compared to a drug. I do agree with you in that regard. It is highly addicting, and damaging.…
/r/MensRights14/12/22 02:09 AM
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I’m going off the U.K’s laws here. I’m not familiar with that in other places. My apologies for the misunderstanding!
/r/MensRights14/12/22 02:02 AM
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Yes I don’t agree either with the article, or that straight couples are feeding into oppression in some capacity. I agree with the concept that if you don’t want to fit into a gender role, ie a man that wants to be a stay at home father, or a woman that wants to be the breadwinner, then you shouldn’t have to just because that’s what society (and your elders) say you should do. I don’t get though, why they say that this is something that only applies to straight couples… and then claim there’s a …
/r/MensRights14/12/22 02:01 AM
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So, you’re with the girl you mention in the post. Have been for 7 years. 6 months in, she removed all of those creeps off social media for you. Now, at least 6 1/2 years later, you are posting this online… And say that she’s the one wanting attention and clicks? Social media and the attention from it is addicting, it’s a drug. Especially if you have low self esteem. Research has been done on it. She broke that spell because she cares for you. Aren’t you doing the same thing right now?
/r/MensRights13/12/22 07:01 PM
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Yes, many feminists do not agree with each other. The problem is that Feminism has such a broad and subjective definition. This is why so many people identify as such, despite having different views and opinions with other feminists. Feminists that aren’t on social media, or don’t use it often, will likely have very different, more fair and less extreme views than feminists that frequent the Feminism subreddit daily.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 06:56 PM
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Well, it seems like the article you linked is mostly trying to stretch and twist the definition of “queer” and “straight” to make this somehow LGBTQ vs The Straights, when all it is really saying is “open your minds, ditch gender norms if they don’t suit you, and pursue your own happiness outside of what is expected of you”. I don’t really understand why this had to be made a sexuality issue, or why queerness even needed to be brought into it since they are strictly critiquing couples that are m…
/r/MensRights13/12/22 06:54 PM
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If the father is a present force in the child’s life, ie is in a relationship with the mother, is on the birth certificate, pays child support or has some form of custody agreement with the mother, then he will be consulted. He can then apply to the courts to have this adoption process stopped, and apply for full custody of the child. The only times that this is completed without the fathers consent is if the child would be put at risk otherwise, or the father does not have the mental capabiliti…
/r/MensRights13/12/22 06:39 PM
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I do not think they should be mandatory or compulsory. I do think the father should have the same right to request one as the mother. I do think that it should be a man’s right to request one if requested to pay child support.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 12:57 AM
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If a man and woman decide together to put a child up for adoption, neither will have to pay anything toward that child’s life. If a man or woman steps away from a child’s life, then they will have to pay child support. I do think child support payments should be fairer, and I do think that there should be some form of paper abortion process for men that do not want the child either during pregnancy, or whenever they are told about it’s existence. However, I do not believe that the two: adoption …
/r/MensRights13/12/22 12:52 AM
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Yes, anything relating to violence is available upon request when visiting a police station currently in the UK. When it comes to a proven case of false accusations, then that is used in court if they attempt it again.
/r/MensRights06/12/22 04:49 PM
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Gender doesn't. It would have been better if the statement was not "believe all women" but something like "believe all survivors" etc. Then it would be gender inclusive at the very least, and would allow male victims of domestic and sexual violence to feel included. Gender doesn't prove anything. However, I do understand the logic of the statement, gender bias excluded, despite not agreeing with it. I am very sorry that you went through that. I hope you're healing. You deserve justice for what y…
/r/MensRights06/12/22 04:47 PM
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I haven't seen statistics on the rate that groups of either gender cause destruction when drinking etc, so I do not know. Obviously women can cause the same trouble, but if there are statistics that show that male groups are more prone, then I do understand why establishments are vary to let them in. I'll have a quick google and see if I can find any stats on this.
/r/MensRights06/12/22 03:50 PM
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It does. To be honest, I can see why from women. Hear me out before you judge please. Okay, so with sexual violence, there is often no proof it has taken place. Nothing at all, and many victims (which according to current statistics, are believed to be majority female), go without any form of justice. When they then see a famous figure discuss their sexual violence story, the people in the comments that are saying that they are lying due to lack of proof, time that has passed, or on the grounds …
/r/MensRights06/12/22 03:49 PM
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Problem is right, if you owned a bar or club, would you want a large group of men to enter your property if there are statistics to back up that they are likely to cause trouble? I understand it is unfair, but decisions like that in business are not made on a hunch or feeling, and there will be actual facts and figures that underpin the rules and regulations.
/r/MensRights06/12/22 03:43 PM
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I'm not sure where these cases are happening. However, if there is definitive proof then the fella may be best suing if the police are acting on agenda. Problem is, the police are happy to turn the other way for a range of crimes. Male or female. ​ It is moving forward yes, and people are more aware now that believing everyone on their word is not always the best course of action.
/r/MensRights06/12/22 03:40 PM
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That comes down to dress code, and managing the population of people inside the venue. If the place needs more women to boost sales of alcohol, then they will allow more women in than men, and be more slack in dress code regulations for women. That's less gender discrimination, more business.
/r/MensRights06/12/22 03:37 PM
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The problem is finding a system that can be used for this that can't just be turned around on actual victims of sexual violence. Also, proving sexual violence is very difficult. As is proving a lie regarding sexual violence. There are consequences to making a false report to the police and it being proven to be false. Just doesn't happen often for the above reason.
/r/MensRights06/12/22 03:36 PM
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The problem comes down to proving something like that. An absence of evidence is not an absence of crime. When it can be proven, it goes to court. However, much like sexual violence, it can be an impossible task to prove.
/r/MensRights06/12/22 03:34 PM
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Do you think there should be an easy to access registry for every crime?
/r/MensRights06/12/22 03:33 PM
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In the UK, if the woman has been found to have definitely made a false allegation, this can be used against her in court in the future. There is already consequences for reporting rape or sexual assault falsely to the police.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 11:22 PM
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Okay, thank you for the further context. Unfortunately my initial argument still stands. Stranger danger exists for a reason. Since women are biologically physically weaker than men on average, there is nothing wrong with a member of staff checking in to make sure that the girl was not uncomfortable in such a subtle, understated way. I'm glad they did that, and hope more do too. It is not a personal, vindictive move against that man. Neither know him in the slightest. That is the point. He was a…
/r/MensRights05/12/22 11:21 PM
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OR… Now this might seem totally wild for you to read… Just because someone is a man, doesn’t always mean they’re going to be a good person that respects boundaries! They simply made sure she was okay. Do you feel proud of the leap you made while making this a gender issue? Does writing in all caps make you feel more secure in your rather shit take? What problem do you have with women being safe?
/r/MensRights05/12/22 10:25 PM
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Not a he. :) Did they say that to him, or the café in general? Or did they ask a young woman if she’s okay and comfortable in a quiet, and private way? Don’t be so dramatic, please. It doesn’t further your point and just makes you seem a tad daft.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 10:01 PM
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Where does it say that she was studying and he wanted to engage about the topic? If your daughter was alone, and staff did this, would you prioritise his potential feelings about it (none, since he didn’t know about this) over her potential safety?
/r/MensRights05/12/22 09:12 PM
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How was he discriminated against?
/r/MensRights05/12/22 09:06 PM
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This just seems like a genuinely kind thing to do. I doubt anyone here would disagree with this if their daughter was on the receiving end of such a caring act. They did not kick off with the fella that spoke to her, just made sure that she is okay with the company. It's always better safe than sorry.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 05:24 PM
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The pubs never should have had the right to discriminate based on gender in that regard. For every single bar in the UK to have the right to discriminate based on gender is wrong. The difference is, women could go if accompanied by a man. The bar would still profit off of women via their husband buying them drinks. This paired with the financial oppression of women, in regards to not being able to open a bank account without a man's approval, open a business loan without a man's approval, etc, s…
/r/MensRights05/12/22 05:20 PM
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But, a tadpole is not a frog. A tadpole is not a baby frog either. It is a potential frog. While you can argue that the tadpole is important, it does not have the same value as the living, breathing frog. If you had to choose to save one or other, you would pick the frog. As I have made it very clear that I value the life of born children, however believe that the pregnant woman should have the right to choose whether or not to terminate, I think it is quite silly asking me whether I would be ok…
/r/MensRights05/12/22 05:17 PM
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That is why I said "if". If he is working the same hours as his female colleagues, then his hours in of themselves is not a gender issue. If he is asked to work more hours and agrees, while his female colleagues are asked and say no, then that is not a gender issue. There is more to it, and only OP and his workplace will know the full story here. If he falsely accuses them of sexism, that won't go well for him. If he is right though and it is gender discrimination, report away!
/r/MensRights05/12/22 05:10 PM
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Yes I do! :) I think there should be some form of process involved. And not just necessarily at the beginning of the pregnancy either, as this would just lead to women hiding their pregnancy if conceived during casual sex or with an ex partner, until after the cut off point. Then, these men would be trapped. ​ While I admit this wouldn't be a fool proof system, I think that in order to apply for child support from a man, there must first be a paternity test to prove he is the father. If he has b…
/r/MensRights01/12/22 03:30 PM
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I did not say that every single pub did ban women. Please do read what I have put. I said that every single pub could legally refuse service from a woman based on gender. I also did not say that plenty did not, I said some may not have. This still doesn't make it acceptable. You said that you were dragged into a gay pub by your girlfriend because it was funny, and then dragged over to the lesbian section. You have also said that the venue has orientated itself to suit its main demographic- which…
/r/MensRights01/12/22 03:23 PM
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I agree. I think if the government wants more support for single parents then they should figure that out without punishing individuals. I also think men should have the right to a financial abortion for a certain period, if he does not and has never wanted the child. However, in cases like this I do think “Ye” should pay towards the care of his children, the same as everyone else, regardless of the mother’s money. No, she likely doesn’t need the money. However, she is raising their children and…
/r/MensRights01/12/22 02:21 PM
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I do, yes.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 12:17 PM
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I agree with you 100%. However, this post is not discussing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 11:29 AM
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To be fair, someone that believes a child victim of rape should be forced to carry the resulting pregnancy, probably doesn’t care either way. 🤦🏻‍♀️
/r/MensRights01/12/22 11:02 AM
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He is also rich. They have both raised those kids to be accustomed to a certain standard of living- whether you agree with it or not. That takes money to keep up. Why should she have to foot the bill solo for their children?
/r/MensRights01/12/22 10:51 AM
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If there is no gender issue, it won’t look good for OP to try this. Depends on whether the women are actually treated any better.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 10:48 AM
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Do the other women work as many hours as you? Did you agree to that many hours when starting? Doesn’t sound like a gender issue with what you’re saying, but a company problem, or possible problem with the industry overall if these hours are commonplace. Sounds like you’re heading toward a burn out, if not there already. Hence why you’re desperate for a year out. I know it’s so much easier said than done, but really try to find some time to enjoy something. Be it a hobby, show, game, learning, re…
/r/MensRights01/12/22 10:46 AM
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Because wealthy or not, he has children and should pay to support them? Especially since it looks like Kim has majority custody.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 10:41 AM
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The thing is, if someone could only save one: a pregnancy or an actual baby, they could choose the baby every time. That’s because the baby has more intrinsic value than a foetus. A foetus, particularly a first trimester foetus, is dependant on the mother to survive. It’s in her body and cannot survive without her. So it is her choice. The anti-abortion rhetoric is so hypocritical, you are right. As soon as that baby is born, that’s where their “care” ends.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 08:33 AM
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You would genuinely value a tadpole the exact same as a frog? Really? The foetus is not more important as the woman carrying it. The foetus isn’t even as important. Do you know how difficult it is to get that surgery? Some women choose to have abortions, and then later have children. In that point of their life, they were not ready to have a child. That would stop them ever having children. What of the woman’s rights? What of cases of: - Rape? - Incest? - If the pregnant person is a child? - If …
/r/MensRights01/12/22 01:35 AM
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A tadpole isn’t the same as a frog. A foetus isn’t the same as a baby. A person is more important than a foetus. The foetus does not have rights because it is still inhabiting a woman. It’s a part of her body, and it is her choice if she wants to keep it or not.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 12:58 AM
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Yes I agree. 😊 Well put.
/r/MensRights30/11/22 06:12 PM
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I don’t quite understand what you mean by the first part there. In regards to the second, yes she probably is still admired. Reproductive rights are important, and someone that stood up for that before it was commonly accepted is brave.
/r/MensRights30/11/22 02:56 PM
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I agree. However, Emma Goldman lived from the year 1869 till 1940. These were different times, and the statement above was highly relevant. To be fair, there is still nothing intrinsically wrong with the above statement, so I am unsure why it has been posted in the first place. Just because it lacks gender neutrality, doesn’t mean that the statement is incorrect or misandrist. It is just purely stating that women should have reproductive rights.
/r/MensRights30/11/22 12:30 PM
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What is actually wrong with this statement?
/r/MensRights30/11/22 12:11 PM
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The issue is that there is a difference in motive. What works for stopping or at least minimising the number of men killed by family or partners, may not work for stopping women killed by their family or partners. Finding the root of the issue is important, and will differ between men and women, between ages of victims, and location in the world. These things are important to establish, so a possible remedy can be found. For instance, both men and women can be victims of domestic violence. Both …
/r/MensRights30/11/22 12:07 PM
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Oh my god, I don't care what type of venue this was. The venue does not matter. It was labelled for lesbians, which is why you were removed. I have already said that I don't disagree with gay men not allowing women in their spaces. I think they should if they want to. I think men only nights would be a good idea. Men need more spaces to talk openly with other men. It should not have been legal for pubs to discriminate service dependant on gender. We are not talking about gay bars, or ladies nigh…
/r/MensRights30/11/22 01:04 AM
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I did say - "However, if gay men did not want them in these spaces, then I would support them not allowing them entry. Why? Because the event, club, pub or bar has a set audience and is upholding that." Event or permanent fixture, if a venue was for gay men only, then yes I would be fine with that. I am okay with a gay venue hosting "lesbian nights" or "gay men nights", and straight people, or people of the opposite gender to the nights intended audience being barred. That is different from what…
/r/MensRights29/11/22 01:04 AM
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Yes. I would be okay if an event for gay men did not allow women. I would be fine with that. The reason why they likely don't is that women are more likely to be allies of LGBT than men, and are often invited to these places by gay men to avoid straight guys at regular clubs. However, if gay men did not want them in these spaces, then I would support them not allowing them entry. Why? Because the event, club, pub or bar has a set audience and is upholding that. In the same way that AA meetings a…
/r/MensRights28/11/22 11:05 PM
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The law gave all pubs the right to discriminate based on gender. Just because some didn’t, doesn’t mean that the law itself is correct, or by any means less bigoted. Pubs themselves were not men’s spaces. The women had to remain at the table while the man ordered their drink. There is a difference between a few select venues monitoring and upholding their selected clientele, and it being okay for every single pub to discriminate on gender alone. Would you say it’s acceptable if a law came in tom…
/r/MensRights28/11/22 12:38 PM
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Every pub and bar was then considered a man’s place. This is not the same as certain venues being gendered. This is every single one. I’ve already said how pubs and bars were not men’s spaces, but I’ll repeat. Women were allowed in, usually only if they were joined by their husbands. They could just be refused service if they approached the bar. Their husbands however, were fine to buy them a drink. Women being allowed in these spaces proves that it was not a “men’s place”, and it was just discr…
/r/MensRights28/11/22 12:38 AM
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You said that area was the “lesbian section”. Your words. The difference has been outlined above. How would your reaction differ if in the news tomorrow, it became illegal for schools to gender discriminate against young boys and refuse them education, to young boys not being allowed in all-girls schools? Just answer that question. There’s quite a difference there, isn’t there? You being turned away from 1 event that was being held for lesbians, as a man, is different from women being legally re…
/r/MensRights28/11/22 12:09 AM
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Well, if you are a man, why would you be in a maturity or gynaecology centre anyway for an injury? That’s just silly. Using your example though, no, it’s not the same. The same would be saying that black women can be turned away from a maternity or gynaecologist centre legally, on the basis of skin colour. That’s wrong, and entirely different from a man being turned away from a maternity or gynaecologist centre?
/r/MensRights28/11/22 12:05 AM
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Because women could be refused service by any public bar. Any. You were just told no to one, because you’re a man and it was a lesbian only area. There is a difference to something being designated for one purpose for a certain audience, and country-wide discrimination. If was made legal for any school in the country to refuse education to any young boy that they wish, purely on the basis of gender, then that is wrong. It being legal to refuse a young girl from an all boys school, is not wrong. …
/r/MensRights28/11/22 12:02 AM
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Pubs are not gendered spaces. Women were allowed in pubs accompanied, however could be refused service. This shows that pubs were in fact not ‘men only’, they simply did not want to serve women themselves. You being refused service in a gay space, is not the same. Using the example of going to the emergency room at a hospital. Women not being served, is like a woman being refused treatment for her gender. Your example is more like going to the emergency room with no illness or injury, and still …
/r/MensRights27/11/22 11:19 PM
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Nope, it was not all women over 30. In 1918, women over the age of 30 that were householders, the wives of householders, occupiers of property with an annual rent of £5, and graduates of British universities. That is not all women, or even most women. By your logic, all men over the age of 30 gained the right to vote in 1867, not 1918. If the right to vote was purely determined by the conscription of the first and second world war, then why weren't women equal to men before these events? They we…
/r/MensRights27/11/22 10:11 PM
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No, you're right. Women have had suffrage since 1928. Some women over the age of 30 had the right to vote in 1918. It wasn't only last week that women were granted the right to vote, after decades long protesting and fighting from the Suffragette Movement. There are still women alive though, plenty in fact, that weren't allowed to open a bank account without a man's approval. That only changed in 1975 with the UK Sex Discrimination Act. Women were only granted fair and equal pay in 1970 with The…
/r/MensRights27/11/22 02:26 PM
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The right to vote extended to urban working men meeting property qualification in 1867. The right to vote then extended to all men above the age of 21, serving men from the age of 19, and some women over the age of 30 in 1918. 51 years is not a long time when looking at history. However, that length of time will have been huge for the individuals that lived through it. The right to vote didn't extend to all women over the age of 21 until 10 years later in 1928. Women were not given the right to …
/r/MensRights27/11/22 12:36 PM
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Yeah I think you are. No problem though 😊 Pick-me’s don’t tend to get chosen by the fellas. Most see through it, and like you said, actually like feminine women. It’s more that they will attempt to become “one of the guys” despite not having any true stereotypically male interests, to look like “the cool girl”. A male equivalent would be a straight guy hanging around a group of women he wants to sleep with, saying that “all men are trash” or “men are such Neanderthals”, in the hopes the women wi…
/r/MensRights26/11/22 06:44 PM
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I think she was referring to King Louis XIV. He is believed to have enjoyed watching women give birth, so ordered that women give birth on their backs so he could watch the process. Giving birth on your back is not optimal, and it was safer to give birth in the previous methods, such as kneeling, squatting or sitting upright. It’s not entirely accurate. While he did enjoy watching women in that position give birth, it was François Mariceau that we believe currently to have influenced that change…
/r/MensRights26/11/22 01:42 PM
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Where have I done that?
/r/MensRights26/11/22 02:16 AM
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Please do not send her any money. Not even a penny. Good chance she isn’t even pregnant. If she is, good chance you aren’t the father based on her other partners.
/r/MensRights26/11/22 01:04 AM
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That's not what I am saying, and I think you know that. :) A pick me will deliberately insult other women for enjoying stereotypically feminine things, to gain attention from men.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 11:21 PM
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Not MRA, but I engage here a lot so I'll throw my opinion in the ring too. ​ I believe in reproductive rights for all. Women have a right to a safe, legal abortion. Men have a right to a financial, legal equivalent. ​ No one should be punished for having adult, safe and consensual sex.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 09:35 PM
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What do you mean by, "let them die"?
/r/MensRights25/11/22 09:33 PM
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Just.. read the article? It feels a bit silly to copy and paste stuff when the link is only a few comments back. ​ It doesn't. The article itself does comment on the fact that men and boys are killed more than women and girls. It prefaces the rest of the discussion, like a disclaimer. It might not be, but it's important to know where best to allocate resources and funding to prevent this, and how best to try save the higher percentage of people. If we were somehow able to stamp out murders in th…
/r/MensRights25/11/22 09:28 PM
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I already have? The percentage of women killed due to gendered violence is higher than men. The percentage of men killed by non-gendered violence is higher than women. Women are disproportionally killed by their current and former partners and family members.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 09:15 PM
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Yes. As men are more likely to be victims of violence and murder, they make up a higher percentage. However, we are talking about an article called "Gender-related killings of women and girls (femicide/feminicide)". Of course it is going to focus on women. It's what the article is about. The point still stands that the most dangerous place for women is the home. It is also valid to say that women also experience gendered violence at a disproportional rate, since a large majority of murdered wome…
/r/MensRights25/11/22 09:03 PM
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Women are more likely to be killed or hurt because they are women. Men are more likely to be killed or hurt by general violence. :)
/r/MensRights25/11/22 08:30 PM
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Oh that is a shame. Yeah it wasn't the smartest thing to do, but I understand that you are just passionate about men's rights. If your university was anything like the one I attended, then Feminist 'activism' was everywhere, so I imagine it frustrating when no one wanted to hear about the issues men face too. As some others said on here, it might be worth looking into it to see if this is a fair dismissal or not, and fight it if not. I can recommend Open Uni though, if you still want to pursue h…
/r/MensRights25/11/22 08:29 PM
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On what grounds did they expel you?
/r/MensRights25/11/22 07:38 PM
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This isn't a case of a corporation being a "simp" or appeasing radical feminism. ​ The scheme is a partnership between the Rail Delivery Group, which represents train operators, and Women’s Aid Federation England, Welsh Women’s Aid, Scottish Womens’ Aid and Imkaan. Of those helped, 65% said they would not or could not have travelled if the journey had not been paid for. It looks like they are actually doing good work and not just appeasing anyone. ​ The White Ribbon Campaign was established afte…
/r/MensRights25/11/22 07:33 PM
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I think it is wrong to all all violence toward women gendered violence. However, sometimes it is. I don't doubt that some information, particularly that circulating every so often in feminist circles are cherry picked. However, sometimes women are killed because they are women, and that is gendered violence. I'm having another conversation on this thread with someone regarding this, and a source they shared about gender violence. You're welcome to have a read over it if you fancy and join in if …
/r/MensRights25/11/22 07:16 PM
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No, women are more likely to suffer from gender-based violence. Men are more likely to suffer from more generalised violence.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 07:02 PM
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Okay. ​ Well, you could consider domestic violence to be a gendered issue, if the victim was chosen due to being a woman. This is mostly seen in male domestic abusers, who choose their targets deliberately as they perceive women to be weak, and enjoy hurting them. This is a gendered motive. You also see it in female domestic abusers who choose to hurt men, usually out of enjoyment of hurting and humiliating men. That is selecting your target based on their gender, and is gender violence. "Gender…
/r/MensRights25/11/22 07:01 PM
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Well, I believe strongly in reproductive rights for men and women. A system for financial abortions would entitle men to cut all ties with mum and baby should he choose. This should be fought for once women have the right to a safe and legal abortion in that country or state. The woman gets to choose what she wants to do, when she decides whether or not to keep the pregnancy. The father should then also choose to do the same. I don't believe that women should have children knowing that they cann…
/r/MensRights25/11/22 06:46 PM
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Yes, I completely agree with you! :) I think it would be really beneficial for all parties for the amount to be even, and last several months. I also think that it would do wonders for couples, as it would eliminate one person being stressed over work and money, and the other being stressed by baby and house. Would bring couples together, and ensure closer bond between baby and dad. I also think it would help lessen the stigma against hiring women, as men would be entitled by law, to the same am…
/r/MensRights25/11/22 06:42 PM
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Yeah, I know you weren't advocating for that. I do apologise if my comment made it seem that way. I just think it would be a natural consequence. ​ I am pro reproductive rights in general. I think in 2022, no one should be punished for consensual sex between two adults. I believe women have a right to a safe and legal abortion for any reason. I believe men have a right to financial abortions for any reason. I do think at the very least, men having the same amount of paid paternity leave as women…
/r/MensRights25/11/22 02:23 AM
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Well, the article itself was discussing gendered violence, so they discussed things like listed above. You don't see women being offered as honour killings in the UK, for example, so it is important to note that the article is discussing the world wide situation. Since this was an article on gendered killings, that's why women were mostly mentioned, however it did make clear from the very start that men and boys are the main victims of homicide.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 02:10 AM
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I'm reading the report you shared now. It does acknowledge from the start that men and boys are most likely to be victims of murder. However, women are more likely to be killed by a partner or family member. This is similar findings to sexual violence too. Women are more likely to face sexual violence from a friend, family member or partner. The article also discussed how they don't believe that 2/5 murders of women are gender violence as there is no contextual information provided. It also disc…
/r/MensRights25/11/22 01:52 AM
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... Yes. DV doesn't always lead to death. However, male perpetrators of DV are more likely to kill their female victim, than a female perpetrator is likely to kill their female victim.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 01:22 AM
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It's relevant because you brought up DV rates in lesbian relationships, and we are discussing murder. Nothing is black or white, and something doesn't have to apply in all situations. A straight person killing a gay person is not always down to homophobia. It can be. Doesn't mean it always is.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 01:18 AM
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That is true. However, it is easier for a man to kill a woman than a woman to kill another woman. Plus, I didn't say that women are killed by men every time due to their gender. Sometimes, sure. I imagine there are murderers that went out looking for a woman to kill and did so. It can be argued that women were killed because they are a woman when sexual violence is involved. In DV, not really. I do agree.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 01:10 AM
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Yeah I can see that. The government does not care if men suffer from child support payments for a child he never wanted. The government does not care if a woman suffers because she is forced to carry a pregnancy she does not want. The government does not care if a child suffers because a neglectful parent gets full or majority custody. As long as more submissive workers are created, they do not care!
/r/MensRights24/11/22 11:57 PM
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A "pick me" is a woman that pretends to be different to other women, and insult them, to impress a man or group of men and seem desirable. :) A "simp" is a male that does the same thing to impress women. ​ Very often, these people are not very kind to their partners or even friends.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 11:51 PM
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Yeah you're very right. With some subjects, I can understand why both sides truly do not want to see eye to eye. In others, their issues do go hand in hand. I don't think people generally realise that social media in general is not a fair representation of a movement or the people in it. Most people that identify don't even know the extremists exist or what they say. They just care about women's rights so identify as feminist by default.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 11:46 PM
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If you type it into Google, you will essentially get the same definition with slightly different phrasing. It's an online phrase, not dictated by region or country necessarily. That is the common definition and base understanding of the phrase. ​ Sometimes insults can be overused, such as "simp", "incel" or "nerd". "Pick-me" is no different. I don't doubt OP's experiences in being called one, however if they do not act like the definition, then they are not actually a pick me girl. Same way that…
/r/MensRights24/11/22 11:03 PM
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Yeah that's true. I just care about these issues outside of the movements and happily advocate for both sides. If there is name for a middle ground between the two, then I am that I guess. It's a shame that the two groups cannot find common ground due to the extremists. Often their issues do go hand in hand, and require numbers to achieve them.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 10:32 PM
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Yeah I agree with you. "Pick-Me" is a massively overused insult, similar to "simp" for fellas. I do stand by what I said in the other post in that the OP is not a pick-me, and they are doing themselves a disservice by calling themselves one, even though I understand the concept of wanting to reclaim an insult. ​ Same here. I support women's rights and men's rights. I don't belong to either group, be it Feminism or MRA, as I don't think you can really belong to both based on the attitudes they ge…
/r/MensRights24/11/22 10:17 PM
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Yeah, someone else pointed out that your comment was likely a form of sarcasm. I missed that entirely, my apologies!
/r/MensRights24/11/22 10:12 PM
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I suppose when talking about sexual attacks that have resulted in murder, that could be classed as gendered violence. The woman is chosen because she is a woman. Maybe in some domestic violence situations you could call it gendered violence, if the fella chose to hurt her because she's smaller, more fragile, and gets off on hurting women. However yeah, I don't think it's fair to call one side gendered violence, and the other side not. If it's gendered violence for a man to hurt a woman, then it …
/r/MensRights24/11/22 10:11 PM
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I think removing CS may encourage some women to be more careful in terms of whether or not they can afford to have the child, but if both parties want a relationship with the child, then whoever has the kid most should be supported by the other party. Then again though, I don't think that the mother should be automatically given preferential treatment when it comes to child custody either.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 10:04 PM
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Oh I don't know about that. I don't think I like that idea, if we're being honest. I think that would trap a lot of people in situations of emotion or domestic abuse, infidelity, etc. The problem is, if someone does not want to stick around and would rather leave mum and baby to fend for themselves, are they really going to be a good parent? Can they help raise a child that is going to be emotionally sound when one parent is full of resentment and misery. I don't agree with money incentives eith…
/r/MensRights24/11/22 10:02 PM
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“Those women got killed because of infidelity” No, domestic violence or attempting to leave the violent partner is the reason why.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 09:40 PM
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Exactly that! :D
/r/MensRights24/11/22 07:40 PM
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Yeah that's true. I've just made a twat out of myself one too many times by assuming someone is being nice when they weren't ahaha. :D I'll work on it!
/r/MensRights24/11/22 07:37 PM
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That's an interesting point, yeah. I am not sure how this would be tackled. ​ In my opinion, paternity leave should be increased and match maternity leave so they can the time to properly bond with their child. What do you think?
/r/MensRights24/11/22 07:36 PM
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It's crazy how society has shifted in line with feminism, isn't it?
/r/MensRights24/11/22 07:34 PM
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I see that a lot with people. You aren't alone in that. :) I see it as a compliment if someone fancies my fella. He's a good looking man, why wouldn't they? As long as I trust him not to entertain that sort of stuff, then I'm golden. If I didn't, then that's an issue with the relationship, not the woman. Only problem I have with her is if she makes him uncomfortable with it, or tries in front of me knowing we are together.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 07:33 PM
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Yeah that is true. I don't know. I have seen some hurtful stuff over there, and it just doesn't sit right. Especially when it's someone asking for advice, and the advice is nasty toward men. Like a post I saw where a woman is being divorced because the fella is unhappy, and the women were telling her to get a good lawyer and "take him to the cleaners". It's just so wrong. I know it's unlikely, but on the off chance the OP was willing to listen and not just vengeful, maybe the few that were there…
/r/MensRights24/11/22 07:29 PM
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What an absolute headcase.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 07:14 PM
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I completely understand what you are saying, and deep down I agree with you. Echo chambers are just so dangerous though, that's the problem.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 07:08 PM
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Fundamentally, yeah. :D Yeah it does. I've met a fair few, both male and female, and neither turn out to be good people once they have actually been picked. Don't make great friends to be around either, in my own personal experience. Yeah same here. Anybody, male or female, has the potential to be fantastic people and terrible people. It's just up to who they are, not what's in their pants. I've seen that quite a bit you know- women seeing beautiful women as a threat. I'm not sure why they do th…
/r/MensRights24/11/22 07:03 PM
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I mean, they shared a fair few articles on the struggle of boys, in terms of healthcare, education, poverty and sexual violence, yes. That was in 2011/2012.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 06:52 PM
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As in, me personally, or are pick-me girls the ones that has guy friends but no/very few girl friends? With the latter, sometimes, yes. There are people that just naturally prefer the company of the other sex to their own, and that's okay. They aren't necessarily "pick-me's". They're the type to say something along the lines of "I just hang out with guys because women are too much drama", or "I just hang out with girls because guys just try to be macho all the time". It's a way of shitting on ot…
/r/MensRights24/11/22 06:47 PM
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Oh really? Sorry, I'm not good at detecting sarcasm! I just see that sort of rhetoric used often, both in the way of blaming the mother for the kid's actions, but also dismissing the role of the father too.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 06:42 PM
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Yeah I completely understand that. I see very little regarding male victims of violence, but a lot related to gendered violence and sexual violence for women. Needs to be a better balance because both deserve attention. Problem is with journalism, it's hard to tell if this is sexism, lazy sensationalist journalists, or both.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 06:13 PM
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Yeah that's a fair point. I've gone onto their Twitter to have a look, and yes a lot of posts are gender neutral, or make an effort to include both. Very little to do with male issues, you're right. Having a bit more of a deeper dive though, it looks like the shift to gender neutrality seemed to happen around 2011/2012. However, then it was more focusing on the issues for young boys, not adult men necessarily.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 06:10 PM
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Problem is that often a pick-me, simp or "nice guy" - whatever you want to call them- will oftentimes slander other members of their sex, which is unkind and unhelpful. I also think it is troublesome to lie to someone about who you are in order to sleep with them, which is the end goal of the attention-seeking.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 06:00 PM
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They also have a father too.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 05:39 PM
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There is a problem with gendered violence. While general violence is an issue too, a big one in fact, the screenshot just seems to be making a point about gendered violence. That is okay to do. I mean, women are, according to our current knowledge, more likely to suffer sexual violence than men. However, articles discussing male victims of sexual violence are completely okay and should be made, if that makes sense? The fact that in 2021, the leading cause of death for pregnant women is homicide …
/r/MensRights24/11/22 05:37 PM
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Problem is, what would you suggest?
/r/MensRights24/11/22 05:31 PM
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Hey. I've been in your spot. My advice, although harsh, is to leave. Your life is just as important as hers, and right now she has no respect for it. If she does it, she does it. That was her decision, not yours. You cannot spend your entire life playing boyfriend to someone you don't want to be with, out of fear that they will do something. She likely won't as she using it as a threat. But either way, the outcome will not be on you. If you both live together, I'd try to collect anything of your…
/r/MensRights24/11/22 05:28 PM
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I completely agree. From what I've seen, fellas tend to refer to the male "pick-me" as "simps", and women tend to call them "nice guys". Whatever you call them, be it pick me, simp, or nice guy, either gender- avoid like the plague!
/r/MensRights24/11/22 05:21 PM
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True, actually. I just hate the term "simp" aha :) There are most definitely pick-me's and simps out there. Some people can really be desperate for attention and lie to get it, sadly. I've seen both sides, and I've seen people fall for it. These people often don't turn out to be very nice once they have actually been picked.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 04:49 PM
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If you don't mind me saying, I think you're doing yourself a disservice by calling yourself a "pick-me"! Sounds like you just genuinely care about men's issues, and your partner. Saying you're a pick-me, just sounds like you're lying to get attention, which I don't believe you are! I get trying to claim back the term, but I do think it does a serious discredit to yourself. :) You aren't a pick-me. You've just been picked. :D
/r/MensRights24/11/22 04:46 PM
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You'll find one. :D Just beware of the actual pick-me's!
/r/MensRights24/11/22 04:44 PM
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Then you aren't a pick-me. If you aren't lying about being different or sharing these interests in order to gain male attention, then you aren't a pick-me. You just care deeply for your partner and male issues. :)
/r/MensRights24/11/22 04:26 PM
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Hahaha that is true. :) However, as language changes, so does its definition. The current definition for pick-me is: A woman who claims or acts as if she is unlike most other women, in order to gain attention from men. That's what I'll go off until that changes. :)
/r/MensRights24/11/22 04:21 PM
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... I don't think you know what a pick-me actually is. Is a male "pick-me" a guy that is pleasant to his girlfriend and respectful of other men and their issues? Does he empathize with women and tries hard to understand their wants and needs, is selfless and loyal? A true feminist and die hard rebel against MRA. Husband material? Or does it only count the other way around? The literal definition is: A woman who claims or acts as if she is unlike most other women, in order to gain attention from …
/r/MensRights24/11/22 04:19 PM
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The problem is when you call men men, and women females. Why even do that? I genuinely don't understand. It does seem disrespectful, and almost a way of dismissing women. I've only seen it used in that context too. In regards to the other things. Periods suck. They are painful, no one enjoys them. Pregnancy can be painful, and a lot of women do not enjoy being pregnant. Pregnancy is also a big fear for women that do not want to be pregnant.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 04:12 PM
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Hey, I'm not a man, so I can't help you there. However, I also have an incredibly selfless partner like you, so maybe I can help a little? If Christmas is a weight on his mind and you haven't bought for each other yet, maybe suggest going for a handmade gift instead, or pooling some money together to buy something for the house together? If you both celebrate Christmas and he goes overboard with the gifts, then maybe not having to spend much might take some weight off his shoulders? If you put t…
/r/MensRights24/11/22 04:09 PM
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I think the problem with this tweet is it misses the entire point of what an actual pick-me is. You can get them of either gender. A "pick-me" woman goes out of her way to lie to those around her that she enjoys stereotypical male hobbies and interests, while shitting on women with stereotypically female interests and hobbies. The sort that will lie about loving football, but has no clue actually about football. The type to slander a guy's girlfriend in front of the fella for liking makeup to tr…
/r/MensRights24/11/22 03:54 PM
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True. Probably both in the name of clicks.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 12:20 AM
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When was this posted?
/r/MensRights22/11/22 12:09 AM
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Hey! I'll have a read over the post you mentioned now if I can find it. :)
/r/MensRights22/11/22 12:04 AM
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I am not suggesting the private conversation as a means of educating you. Just a discussion regarding the history since it's an interesting conversation, and you and I probably have more in common than you like to believe.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 11:59 PM
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Yeah you are completely right. ​ Universities, or at least the one I attended, was awful for this sort of echo-chamber nonsense. Couldn't say anything without risk of being treated unfairly by lecturers and professors. Much of the activism was very tasteless and without thought or regard. Discrimination and oppression was screamed at every hurdle. One module we had was regarding the work of Victorian male authors. This was an optional module, that everyone received an apt description of before c…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 11:54 PM
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We are going around in circles, and completely derailing this post for the most part. Feel free to message me if you would like to discuss the gender issues from a more historical standpoint. :)
/r/MensRights21/11/22 11:17 PM
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Look, I don't want us to keep going around in circles with the "you're a feminist", "no I'm not" nonsense. We can drop that now, its clear we do not see eye to eye on that. ​ I am sorry if you believe that some or most of your friends would drop you for disagreeing with feminism, or engaging on this sub. You don't deserve that, but you do deserve better friends you can trust. I do hope you are honest with them one day, and they do surprise you. No person deserves to feel censored, it absolutely …
/r/MensRights21/11/22 11:14 PM
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I've noticed this too. I disagreed with one post and got permanently banned. Echo chambers are so dangerous. I do think it's because I engage with this sub though.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 11:03 PM
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Sorry if this is invasive question, you don't have to answer obviously, but I'm curious. What gendered differences have you noticed between people's attitudes toward your son and daughter while they are/were growing up?
/r/MensRights21/11/22 10:58 PM
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This is so well said.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 10:56 PM
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Hey this was an interesting watch, thank you for sharing!
/r/MensRights21/11/22 10:55 PM
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You know what, you're right. I have been doing more research into this subject due to our conversation, outside of the most common, 'hit' sites and yes, this is a big problem. The number of affected is too small for the scale of the difference in funding. ​ Thank you for opening my eyes to this issue. Thankfully it does seem like other cancers, be it prostate, lung, colon or ovarian, seem to be receiving more funding as of 2021-2022. A lot of activism seems to be taking place in regards to prost…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 10:46 PM
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What are you even talking about? No, of course not, I was talking about extreme feminists and extreme MRA. Sorry if I was unclear.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 10:23 PM
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I am not anti-MRA, I just don't identify myself as one. I am not a feminist. Please put your preconceived notion aside for one moment.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 10:21 PM
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I am not trying to be condescending. I did apologise, but since you have taken everything I have said so far as misandry, it's clear that you are trying to be extreme. ​ My age has nothing to do with it. Stop trying to make everything personal. ​ It's hard to know what you are referencing when you won't tell me what comment. I literally never even mentioned men's emotional intelligence, never mind said that it is worse than a woman's. Why? Because I do not believe that to be true. In my experien…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 10:20 PM
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I frankly do not care if you would respect me more. I am only feminist in the sense that I care about women's rights. In the same way that I am only MRA in the sense that I care about men's rights. You can't belong to both groups peacefully, so I identify as neither. As I have already said, I only defended TwoX in the sense that I hadn't seen much wrong in the posts I have seen on there, and asked if I am looking in the wrong place. I have since argued on there regarding men losing out in divorc…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 10:03 PM
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I cannot remember her user, but someone may be able to add it in response, but there is a lady named Drew on TikTok that is misandrist in my opinion. They take out of context things men say against women, and immediately jumps into this character with a squeaky, cartoonish laugh and body shaming comments. Don't approve of her channel. I see a lot of men call her out, and quite a few women. With Andrew Tate, I saw a lot of women call him out, and not that many men. At least not for quite a while.…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 09:16 PM
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Cancer research is funded differently for many reasons. To list a few: ​ As breast cancer mostly affects women, fundraising, awareness and funding is assisted by women's rights centred groups, similar to the contributions LGBT people put in toward HIV and AIDS research funding and awareness. When comparing prostate cancer and breast cancer, it's likely that a main reason for the funding difference is the average age of sufferers, and the average age for cancer caused death, which is older for pr…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 09:11 PM
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I'm sorry, are you me? Are you in my head? Are you reading my thoughts? You are claiming that I do not care about men purely based off assumption, and possibly stereotypes. Just because I care about men and the issues they face in society, doesn't mean that I have to agree with every word out of a man's mouth. ​ I have never said I am anti-MRA. I do not identify as MRA in the same way that I do not identify as feminist. I also do not belong to any religion. Just because I am questioning somethin…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 08:40 PM
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Gaslighting is a serious term used to describe a method of abuse. We have had one short conversation over the internet about something we clearly do not see eye to eye on. Do not discredit the experiences of those that have actually gone through gaslighting by a weak comparison. ​ I am not acting dumb, I simply have not said that. You can't find where I have. Ah, so you are referring to me talking about a very common problem discussed on here, in that men struggle to discuss their emotions due t…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 08:34 PM
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I do apologise. I honestly never intended for my tone to come across as condescending or passive aggressive to you. ​ Clearly the "said on this post" was a typing error, and meant to say sub. That is quite obvious given the context. I do believe that echo chambers are dangerous for any movement. I also do believe that it is important to have our beliefs, preconceptions, ingrained stereotypes, biases and double standards called out when noticed. It's the best way to grow as people and, to be fair…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 08:24 PM
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Trying to drive a wedge between your brother and the abusive partner won’t work, sadly. It just means that he will be less likely to come to you. Just try work hard to remain in his life and try give him regular time away from her if you can, without being blatant about trying to get him away from her. I’m sorry your brother and family are going through this. I hope karma gets this abuser soon.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 07:48 PM
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Oh no problem at all, honestly. I get it. It does look like I mostly argue with this sub and not others. However after being permanently banned from the main feminist subreddit, I have to be a bit more careful in what I say over there on those ones. Got to pick your battles and some things are worth risking censorship over others. :)
/r/MensRights21/11/22 05:41 PM
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Where have I said that men are less emotionally developed? ​ I don't agree with generalisations. If you actually raid through comments I have made in the past, this is a real gripe of mine and I do call it out often. In fact, it was the very reason I was banned from the main Feminist sub- I called out someone for saying that men should not be allowed in underwear shops as "men don't know how to behave and be normal". I literally only had an argument about generalisations last night, if you fancy…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 05:39 PM
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Okay! So there is quite a bit to cover here, so bear with me. ​ Right, so firstly I do not fight everything that is said on this sub. If I agree, disagree or just generally have something to add, then I will interact with it. Male or female, the internet is a free space to do that. It isn't my problem if someone else doesn't like someone disagreeing with them. ​ If you have actually gone through my past interactions properly, you'd have seen a conversation I had with someone in this sub only a c…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 05:34 PM
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Nope. They are making a deliberate effort into helping men too. Just less than women with breast cancer, due to men making up 1% of cases. There are many reasons why breast cancer receives move funding. To chalk it up to simply a gender bias is silly.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 05:08 PM
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1%, according to Cancer Research U.K. There is research being conducted for men with breast cancer, specifically. https://breastcancernow.org/breast-cancer-research/research-projects/our-research-projects/male-breast-cancer-study However, breast cancer between men and women is very similar, so all research efforts made will help both genders, even if the symbolic ribbon is pink.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 03:31 PM
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Yes that I do agree with. It’s either evolved to be more now, or has been from the start but has been reported via a skewed lens.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 03:04 PM
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Yes. The vast overgeneralisation that the reviewer made regarding men’s emotional intelligence is incorrect, bigoted and unnecessary. I do agree. However: “This story is then followed up by another story where he says "Japanese women will try to make you apologize for things. Don't ever apologize." I believe that's called projection, sir. You put women in situations where they shouldn't have to apologize and then also just ignore the moments where you were in the wrong.” This is absolutely fine …
/r/MensRights21/11/22 03:03 PM
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Cancer awareness and fundraising is far more important than an International Day to either gender. In regards to it’s either men get breast cancer too and should be acknowledged, and only 1% get it. Those are two facts that can co-exist. It makes sense that the campaigns are predominantly geared toward the 99%. As I have said in a different, I have seen plenty, and I do mean plenty, of social media activism (mostly by feminist groups) raising awareness for men with breast cancer. I personally wo…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 02:48 PM
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Oh it is what it is! :) That’s down the individual, not MRA as a collective. Most of the people I’ve engaged with here have been more than civil, so I don’t hold it against this sub. You don’t need to apologise whatsoever, that wasn’t on you. I don’t regret responding to that person either. People like that deserve to be questioned on their bullshit.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 02:43 PM
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Thank you for your response. That’s fair enough. I disagree with them as a whole. Think they’re discriminatory and should just be stamped out of the education system if they exclude an entire group of people and isn’t based on academic merit.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 02:33 PM
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I cannot help if a simple point becomes an argument or hostile. I made a point yesterday about a double standard that was being made, and received a full slew of bigoted, insulting nonsense as a result. I care deeply about men, that’s why I’m here often. This sub, to be fair, has opened my eyes massively and altered my own view of society and men and women in general. Doesn’t mean I agree with everything that’s said, and I will respond if this is the case. If everything has been said in a post I…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 02:32 PM
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Not nearly exclusively. I partake in both this sub, and a feminist sub to learn more about both sides, as I don’t belong to either movement. If I see something I agree with, I’ll say. If I see something I want to learn more about, I’ll ask. And if I see something I disagree with, I’ll question it. At the end of the day, a fundraising event for cancer is more important than any International Gendered Day, be it men’s or women’s. I would have zero problem with a fundraising event for prostate canc…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 02:18 PM
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Ah thank you, that wasn’t showing on my Amazon app. If the review is truthful of the contents of the book, the book does sound misogynistic.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 11:06 AM
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There’s only two reviews for this book I can see on Amazon, and both are 5 star?
/r/MensRights21/11/22 10:36 AM
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That is because there is an estimated 350 men diagnosed each year, compared to 55,000 women. Men make up around 1% of cases. I would say that screening, prevention and treatment of cancer is more important than social media campaigns, wouldn’t you?
/r/MensRights21/11/22 10:02 AM
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I’ve noticed that there is quite a bit of “research” conducted purely to further a gender divide, or promote a political agenda.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 09:59 AM
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Just went back through your comments. No, you didn’t. Answer the question: do you agree with female only scholarships?
/r/MensRights21/11/22 09:51 AM
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I think it may be worth you going through the comments of this sub, and reading the one posted by an Iranian man regarding the protests. To call the women over there fighting for the right to not be raped, tortured and murdered for not wearing an article of clothing “”brave” parasites” is truly disgusting, as is reducing the incredibly selfish and courageous acts of the male protestors as idiots. I have no idea if you are a troll or not, but good god. Take off your western, hateful lens and real…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 09:50 AM
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There are situations where it is unwise to call it out. Sometimes just for peace of mind, it’s best cutting ties with the other person instead. I still don’t think you can make a cut and dry assumption regarding someone’s character for one event where they did or did not call someone else out on their behaviour. I never said it was unreasonable to call out bigots. If you read my actual response, I was calling hatred toward either gender unreasonable. Yes I don’t understand where the ‘you must ap…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 09:47 AM
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It’s brave men who have died fighting against an oppressive regime. The protests themselves are about more than just women, however that is the lens the media has taken. As a result, it is reported as a women’s rights issue, because the portion of the fight they are covering is. Like I said, lazy journalism.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 09:42 AM
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Men can also get breast cancer.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 08:29 AM
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I don't think you can chalk someone up as being a good or bad person based on one act. There are also plenty of situations where it is best to leave it lie. That's my answer. While I don't agree with it, I can completely understand why a man or woman that has experienced trauma from the other gender can grow to hate them. It's a natural response to prevent yourself from being hurt again, and something that can easily be blamed for what you went through. Especially when that person then enters an…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 02:23 AM
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I agree. The comment I replied to made a vast generalisation that is fuelled by bigotry. I do not think that logic is the kryptonite for either gender. Everyone has the ability to be logical, regardless of what is in their trousers. ​ The woman in the OP is clearly just regurgitating the points made in Feminist echo chambers with no ability to back up what they are arguing. However, that is not justification to say that women as a whole cannot comprehend logic. That is an illogical assumption. ​…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 01:25 AM
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While I do have respect for the work done by first wave feminist, I am not a feminist myself. I do not like modern feminism as a whole, so do not identify as such. ​ Many women identify as feminist, with the image of first wave feminists fighting for women to have the right to vote. Most do not engage with feminism in other avenues, certainly not enough to uncover its sour underbelly. I do think it is important to call out negativity, bigotry and hatred where it stands. However, many that do are…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 01:19 AM
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I pointed out that you have a double standard based on gender in a gender based sub. As a result, you have resulted to insults. ​ Work on some self-reflection, and your obvious dislike for women. :) Too much hate in the heart is never a good thing!
/r/MensRights21/11/22 01:12 AM
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I'm disappointed, Liam. I am still not seeing a hint of this world-class logic that you use to silence the entire female population! ​ You look to be getting a little heated. Do you not like being called out for a double standard? :(
/r/MensRights21/11/22 12:58 AM
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I was not referring to OP. Like the comment I was responding to, I took a more generalised approach. :)
/r/MensRights21/11/22 12:56 AM
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Goodness me, you must be dull in the sack if you're used to women engaging sexually with you and scrolling Reddit at the same time!
/r/MensRights21/11/22 12:50 AM
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My statement was more based on the research done into the struggles men have expressing emotions, and the experiences shared on this sub. I do understand that this isn't always the case, and there are plenty of open and emotionally intelligent men out there. Just wanted to clarify that. :) ​ Yeah you are completely right there. It can be situational, and does depend on the friendship in question. ​ I am so sorry to hear about the mistreatment you faced from your ex. That is an awful thing to go …
/r/MensRights21/11/22 12:41 AM
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Wow, what an intelligent and well reasoned response! I certainly feel overwhelmed with the sheer level of logic you just demonstrated! ​ I'd have had so much more respect for you there if you had just admitted a double standard.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 12:36 AM
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Yeah, you're right there. Totally agree. It just depends on the individuals there as to what is said. I do like to believe though that male or female, these private, single-sex spaces are not inherently bad. ​ I can see that being a mindset, yeah. There are certainly some modern women that act as if they have been personally oppressed in their life, despite never having actually experienced any of things that first wave feminism fought. So, they see a space that they aren't allowed into as discr…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 12:22 AM
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​ That's the best way to make a man shut up tbh. Logic is their kryptonite I've learned. I use it ALL the time because I can't stand to hear them speak. ​ If I commented the above on a post, you would be foaming at the mouth calling me a misandrist.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 12:18 AM
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Every couple should be free of judgement, and operate under terms that they are happy with. Traditional gender roles hurt anyone that doesn't naturally fit into them and is an unrealistic expectation in modern society, in my opinion. ​ If I could change something though, I think maternity and paternity leave should be a right, and an equal amount because: - That would give the mother more chance to recover - It will give men more time to bond with their baby - It will allow couples to stay bonde…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 12:13 AM
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It isn't ugly. Both genders have their own problems that need to be worked on and changed. You cannot compare the issues though with that of Iran, or act like we have it any worse here than they have there.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 12:01 AM
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I think saying that all feminists hate men, or even most, is a vast over generalisation that has been pushed by social media. Your algorithm is working well to piss you off. ​ Yes, what is happening in Iran is a human rights issue and men and women are both oppressed. The protests that are being focused on however was caused by the death of a young lady, and are fighting for women's rights. That is why.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 12:00 AM
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I know it has. Feminism has not always been a bad thing. First wave feminism was rooted in the believe that women should be equal to men, and deserve the same rights as their male counterpart. ​ Yes, modern third and fourth wave feminism has gone off the rails, but you cannot reasonably compare feminism of the past with modern feminism.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 11:58 PM
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What are you going through in the a post-feminist society in the West, that compares to the suffering and oppression of Iranian men and women?
/r/MensRights20/11/22 11:57 PM
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Men and women fighting for the rights of women can be easily considered as first wave feminism. That is not cancer. Women deserve rights. People fighting for this cause are good, selfless and brave people. ​ Stop viewing the entire world with a Western lens. You may not like third and fourth wave feminism, and you have every right to. But the actual true definition of feminism is a good thing and something worth fighting for. ​ I'm sure the people protesting in Iran, man or woman, would be grate…
/r/MensRights20/11/22 11:53 PM
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I never once said men have it good over there. Iran is brutal for both men and women. However, the protests are regarding the oppression of women, and the rules and restrictions that women in Iran have to follow under fear of rape, torture and murder. ​ That is what they are protesting. Just because it has been going on for centuries, doesn't mean that is acceptable. ​ I explained why lazy journalists are exclusively looking at this as a women's rights issue. Because it is.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 11:49 PM
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Oh simmer down. The entire thing started because a woman was killed. The protests are fighting for women’s rights. That’s why it’s being classed as a woman’s rights issue. It’s not a gender issue. It’s lazy journalism.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 11:21 PM
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They could. That would require actual thought from journalists.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 11:14 PM
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We haven’t had a situation in the West that compares.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 11:14 PM
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Well the problem with male locker rooms is some of the chat that goes on stereotypically. I think it’s a vast generalisation though to say there is an issue with male locker rooms in general. The leaked Donald Trump conversation caused it really. I think more male orientated things would be a good thing though. Would maybe provide a safe space for men to talk more without judgement. Oh thank you! 😊
/r/MensRights20/11/22 11:13 PM
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I definitely do believe that frustration and anger are things that aren’t taken seriously, and are judged more when expressed by a woman than a man. Fighting is just chalked down to ‘boys will be boys’, whereas for women it’s dismissed as her monthlies, that she’s a Karen, or am over exaggerating woman. I don’t think the article is actually anything really to do with feminism. It’s just quite cringe. I don’t think men would be judged any harsher for this sort of behaviour. I think the main reaso…
/r/MensRights20/11/22 10:59 PM
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All the men of Iran aren’t dead, are they? They are fighting for women’s rights, that is why it is being reported as a women’s rights issue.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 10:56 PM
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In what way?
/r/MensRights20/11/22 09:29 PM
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I understand, I’m just explaining why the articles are focusing on this being a women’s issue when more men have died as a result.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 07:08 PM
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Similar to men, there are some emotions that women are judged for expressing. Anger and frustration are a few key examples. The women doing this, albeit cringe, is just them expressing these emotions in private, as a group, in a healthy way as opposed to exploding one day. Oppression was never mentioned. Someone does not become part of the incel movement immediately after being dumped. You’re making a big leap there. A better example would be if men joined together in a big group in private to c…
/r/MensRights20/11/22 07:07 PM
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The movement is about women because: - A woman died that sparked the protests - Its about women’s rights. Yes people on both sides are fighting and dying as a result, men more so. The protests are still a women’s rights issue, so it is reported as such.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 06:59 PM
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Echo chambers on social media. Can happen to any movement on social media- it just slowly becomes hostile and angry over time. Most that identify with feminism have no idea how toxic some feminists can be.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 06:57 PM
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It’s a problem with relationships in general. There’s a fine line between love and hate. Once the relationship is done, is sadly common for both parties to want to hurt each other.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 06:55 PM
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Okay this article is a bit cringe, yes. I’ll give you that. However what about this article indicates that feminist women are monsters and destroying society? Similar to men, there are some emotions that women are shamed for experiencing. For example, anger and frustration. The article is just about some women that have decided to express these feelings in a healthier way than just exploding at someone.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 06:54 PM
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Or… they’re just going through a breakup.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 06:52 PM
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That is not what I asked. Do you agree with female only scholarships?
/r/MensRights20/11/22 01:16 PM
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We have not had a human rights issue in the West for a long time that in any way rivals what is currently happening in Iran. Can’t compare. The men that are fighting alongside women over there are absolutely incredible human beings. They are unbelievably brave and selfless. Men and women fighting in Iran right now in these protests deserve to go down in history as a true example of solidarity and bravery. Let’s not water down their suffering and courageous acts with talk of the West.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 01:16 PM
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Ahhh, thank you very much. Yeah that's why I haven't seen anything then. I've been very confused when this sub has been calling out the other for misandry when most seem to just be asking for advice on female issues. I'll pay closer attention to the comments in future, and see if I get banned a couple days in like I did the main Feminist sub.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 04:02 AM
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The problem is with crimes like these is that there often is no proof. With sexual violence, an absence of proof does not mean that the crime did not take place. It's just a very sad fact. I think it's important to keep a level head about it. A celebrity makes a claim of abuse with no evidence against another celebrity: There is no need to then go and harass the accused celebrity of sexual or domestic violence and 'cancel' their career. There is also no need to comment or harass the accuser and …
/r/MensRights20/11/22 04:00 AM
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- Men are more gain more emotionally from marriage than women are. This is generally put down to women taking on more of the brunt of housework chores and childcare. - Men are more likely to cheat during marriage. - Women are more likely to have a strong support system, and to feel comfortable confiding emotionally with them. As a result, they can talk through their emotions about their relationships more so they can see it's flaws and whether or not they can live with it. Forces facts out in th…
/r/MensRights20/11/22 03:47 AM
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Gay women are fetishized, that's why. It's not actual acceptance, but something people think is 'hot'. ​ Representation of gay men in media doesn't help, as it is often pandering to stereotypes. Lesbians in general are shown far less as gay men in tv and film, so while there isn't much representation which isn't great, there is less reinforcement of negative stereotypes.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 03:41 AM
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Maybe when they have rights themselves, we can see. One battle at a time.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 03:32 AM
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Is the misandry in that sub in the comments? I have yet to see anything anti-man, but I don't know if that's because I only scan the posts, not necessarily the comments.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 03:22 AM
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The problem though comes when there is no issue with what the other person is actually saying. I am not bringing up sexual violence in every conversation about sex, as it is not needed. Most sex is consented to. Plus, that would imply OP did something he didn't do. Not every man being sexual needs to be a conversation regarding sexual violence. ​ The problem is, when being triggered, it is very easy to take very well meaning, correct things, and take an unreasonable offence to it. There is no ne…
/r/MensRights20/11/22 03:20 AM
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Do you agree with female only scholarships?
/r/MensRights19/11/22 04:50 PM
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No, but male only scholarships are.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 12:28 PM
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Two wrongs never make a right.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 12:20 PM
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Despite the song, I am not every woman. I have never agreed with female only scholarships. Equal opportunities are important. As a result, I don't agree with male only scholarships. Like I said, this would be a bandaid fix for a bigger issue.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 11:45 PM
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Exactly! Divide household labour fairly and based on what people are best at, and if the other person takes over your chores for you, just be grateful instead of looking for faults in the first place.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 11:43 PM
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Yeah that makes sense. Thank you! 😊 I’m in a lovely relationship with someone I truly adore. And to be fair to you mate, I’m an over sharer by nature so I probably did the same without realising!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:19 PM
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Oh give over. I’m clearly not disagreeing with men having scholarships. I am disagreeing with scholarship opportunities being available for only one gender.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 05:17 PM
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Two wrongs don’t make a right. Plus slapping a bandaid fix on a situation like this won’t truly help.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 12:24 PM
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Not in my opinion. Shouldn’t have people still legally children voting.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 12:19 PM
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Haha yeah. I chose that name like two years ago, hate it, and don’t know how to change it. Still love dbd though 🤣
/r/MensRights18/11/22 12:19 PM
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Lowering the age of voting in the UK would be an absolutely terrible idea.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 05:03 AM
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Hey, I am sorry that you are in this situation. If you merely said the above, and it's obviously been sent in maliciously, then I doubt any real repercussions can stem from it. ​ That being said, it may be worth taking screenshots of the blackmail attempts, or try to push the conversation over to an avenue where you can, just to cover your own back.:)
/r/MensRights18/11/22 05:00 AM
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I know what I am going to say here may sound harsh, so I do apologise in advance, but your triggers are on you. You did make an unpleasant assumption there about me and my attitudes toward victims of sexual violence and consent. While I truly am sympathetic toward your feelings on the matter, you cannot put that on other people. If the conversation at hand is too much for you to emotionally handle at this moment, which there is entirely no shame in by the way, then I wouldn't recommend engaging.…
/r/MensRights18/11/22 04:57 AM
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Fair enough. To be fair, I can see it varying person to person, and probably by age too. Someone in their 40s may be more willing to accept a more interview like date, than someone in their 20s. Divorcees are probably also more likely to appreciate this style. ​ I do think it can limit the partners that wish to pursue dates after the first, but if you are happy with that then it is what is it. I do not think prying questions are a reliable method to find a good partner, as someone who is willing…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:50 AM
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I'll be honest with you, I didn't see that happen. Unfortunately with the state of the world, now you say that, I don't really doubt it. Fair enough. ​ I probably am being too kind actually, I do hold my hands up. When the movement was occurring, I did see the positive effect it had on the average woman, and how empowering so many found it. I didn't even see the flaws with my own eyes until Amber Heard was exposed for being a liar.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 04:46 AM
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... If someone is willing to lie about their entire personality and put on a completely false one, then they can handle prying questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:44 AM
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Doesn't matter if they have been friends for years. Life happens, people develop feelings. The fact they have been friends for ten years is important here. If she had given him any indication during these years that she wanted to sleep with him, or had any sexual feelings toward him, then OP would have mentioned that to back up his point. She hasn't, so it is wrong to assume that she would be willing to sleep with him, just because she has slept with other people. ​ Interesting how you talk abou…
/r/MensRights18/11/22 04:43 AM
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Yeah I agree with you there. I hate when these terms are hijacked by social media and moulded into something they can accuse people of left, right and centre. We've seen it happen with the term gaslighting. I think this is another case of that happening, but this was definitely caused mostly by feminist women and groups.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 02:15 AM
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I don't personally agree with gendered scholarships at all, and is just a privilege for women at the moment. Although at least in the UK, these seem to be dying out which is a good thing. It should be equal opportunity all round. ​ Do you think possibly there is something hidden in how young boys are raised, as opposed to girls? If boys fail in school, there's a lot of trades that they can fall back on that will earn them an honest enough, decent living. However, these jobs are often back-breaki…
/r/MensRights18/11/22 02:13 AM
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Yeah, I have thought more about OP's take on this actually and find myself agreeing that this situation is highly likely to be caused by an emotionally negligent, demanding or critical parent. ​ I do think there are cases though where this is done in malice with no prior cause, because some people are just assholes. ​ Yeah it's incredibly daft. I don't think a lot of women like to admit that they do this kind of thing too because women tend to take over a lot of the more general chores, such as …
/r/MensRights18/11/22 02:08 AM
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Thank you, I'm not sure why I got that response there. ​ Thinking about it more, I do see where you are coming from more in regards to this being possibly due to abuse, or even just an overbearing and critical parent. I can see that being truthful in quite a few cases actually, with further contemplation. ​ It is incredibly silly that this has become a gender issue though. Women can be, and I'd bet are, just as guilty of this as men are, just with different tasks.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 02:04 AM
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"I'l do you one better, the LAW expects you to apply abstract thinking and not impulsively shoot two people when you catch your partner cheating." ​ Way to use an extreme, over the top take there. Dating requires emotion. You are going to choose the person that you click with best, over someone you merely tolerate during a date and just want to go home. That is common sense and a fact. ​ Everyone can look back on past relationships and realise that they missed red flags. You can do that in any r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:01 AM
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All you have to do is ask many questions. People reveal themselves in their responses and how they respond. As we both have said, you can't take someone's word for who they are. If someone is good at lying then they will manage to handle the questions that you can reasonably ask during dating without revealing their true selves. You also do not get to know someone truly until later in the relationship, which is why everyone says that you do not truly know someone until you live with them. You do…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:26 AM
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Well that's the thing- the government is already involved. They are the ones forcing men to pay child support for a child they have said right from the get go that they do not want. By that logic, abortions aren't really a choice as other women have to pay tax toward the procedure. Men should not be punished with a fine every month for 18 years for sex. No one should be punished in that way for having consensual, adult sex. I do believe strongly that abortions and financial abortions should be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:12 AM
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I just did. Point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:08 AM
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I must admit I am a little confused. I also do not think that an interpretation of what he has said that has been made by others on here, and is easily made, is a justification to claim that I am unsympathetic to victims of sexual violence, that I am uncaring and stereotyping. Little out of order. ​ See, I can see the situation from the other side. It sucks when you have been friends with someone for a long time and then they come out with sexual nonsense. Just keep your friends as your friends,…
/r/MensRights18/11/22 01:08 AM
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I can't say that I know the big overall claim of the MeToo movement, honestly, I don't think anyone truly can guess with absolute certainty. Most of the people engaging with the debate were honest, good people that simply shared the hashtag in solidarity. It was a way of women confessing that this has happened with them with no shame attached. I don't think the awful actions of Amber Heard and the few that did similar, should lead to what was a good movement, being classed as immoral or incorrec…
/r/MensRights17/11/22 04:47 PM
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I didn't mean in that way. I am not talking about personal preference or method, I am talking about obvious things that have been done incorrectly. ​ An example would be washing up. Some prefer wearing marigolds, some prefer different amounts and types of washing liquid. I am not talking about that kind of stuff. Just referring to when dishes are being 'washed' and coming out obviously dirty. Maybe they don't use enough dish soap, or the water isn't hot enough, so the job is made needlessly hard…
/r/MensRights17/11/22 04:16 PM
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But not every person you will be supporting is rich. In fact, it’ll be a few that are. More are poor than rich. If it gives men the freedom of choice, then I’d be happy to have the tax I pay go toward.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:43 PM
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Didn’t say it was! :)
/r/MensRights17/11/22 01:16 PM
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Of course a woman isn’t owed sex. No one is owed sex, regardless of what bits you have. My point wasn’t that she could literally have sex with every friend she has but him, as some kind of statement that men are easy, always going to consent, or men are always going to be attracted to every woman. I thought that was really obvious. You’re taking what I’ve said extremely literal. I was literally just saying that she could sleep with every other male friend but him, and he still wouldn’t be owed s…
/r/MensRights17/11/22 01:14 PM
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Nice
/r/MensRights17/11/22 01:04 PM
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I do agree with the last part there, you are right. The problem though is that it’s such a hard thing to prove so often justice isn’t done. Blasting them alone seems for many to be the only way of getting some form of justice, and warning others about a dangerous individual.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 01:03 PM
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Don't you think you should wait for the verdict first? This is an active court case. I'm sure, after all, you believe in innocent until proven guilty?
/r/MensRights17/11/22 02:56 AM
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They each get half of the overall household funds. He will get half of hers, she will get half of his.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 02:54 AM
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I'd suggest reading the shared article.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 02:50 AM
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That's my point though, it wasn't typical of the movement. As I said, most just shared the hashtag and kept details out of the post. In which case, that is judging a well-meaning, empowering movement by the few morally corrupt and detestable humans that did lie to ruin a man's life. If every single movement was judged by the worst participants, then all movements would be denounced like you have with MeToo on this post.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 02:47 AM
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I seriously hate the pandering nonsense and terrible writing. ​ If you want to create a strong female character, she doesn't have to be able to take down 7 highly trained, armed male soldiers with nothing but her fists and the occasional kick. That or her entire personality is engulfed by pure pick-me energy, where anything even the slightest thing feminine is somehow repulsive to her, and every woman around her is a ditsy, catty blonde. ​ They're either a backwards cap and overall wearing mecha…
/r/MensRights17/11/22 02:42 AM
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Well, then the namesake of the movement disagrees with you. The point of the trend was for victims of sexual violence to come together in solidarity, to make others feel less alone with their experiences and trauma. Most of the posts engaging with the MeToo movement kept their abuser's identity hidden and just shared the hashtag. ​ Amber Heard is proven to be a terrible person now with what came out about her and Johnny Depp's relationship in the recent court case. I don't think it is fair to ju…
/r/MensRights17/11/22 02:36 AM
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What do you suggest to help this issue?
/r/MensRights17/11/22 02:32 AM
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Men and women are different. On average, women are better at certain things. On average, men are better at certain things. There are also different things that typically attract either gender. Neither gender is better than the other, just different.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 02:12 AM
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Not sure on that one. I think in a weird way, some women are feeling forced guilt. There was this big shaming thing going around a little bit ago toward women that laughed at memes regarding the trial, as some elements were talking about her faked sexual violence stories. Wouldn't be surprised if that is were this stemmed from. ​ A lot of the MeToo movement that was partaken in by average women didn't even name the person that did it. It was just about sharing the hashtag to say literally, me to…
/r/MensRights17/11/22 02:03 AM
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... What have I even said wrong here?
/r/MensRights17/11/22 02:00 AM
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I think it's completely fine for a woman to want a female gynaecologist and a man to want a male urologist. I don't think there is anything sexist about it. ​ However, I do think it awful sexist when some feminists claim that it is somehow creepy or perverted for a man to want to be a gynaecologist. Those types can just get in the bin, imo.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 01:59 AM
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Well it is certainly proof that some feminists are wilfully ignorant. Not sure about evil and nothing more. Apparently there was some documents released or something, that Amber fans have put on Twitter ( or faked and posted ) which showed a different side to the situation. Good chance that it's the classic case of misinformation and people being absolute sheep and believing everything they have read online. ​ Also, fuck Amber Heard.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 01:57 AM
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Not sure I entirely agree with your statement. While that may be the case for some, I don't think it can be said by the many. I'd love though if you have any sources that back that up that I can read? If this is correct, then it would be really interesting to learn more about. ​ It's silly how this concept has become so gendered. At the end of the day, women are just as capable as a man when it comes to putting up a shelf, but the job will be put off for weeks and months until the man has time t…
/r/MensRights17/11/22 01:54 AM
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Has anyone else noticed that Amber Heard fans have been out in force lately? It seems like the tide has turned against Depp again now for some reason. I'm hoping that it's just a few shouting the loudest, and my algorithm is being a dick. ​ After watching the full trial, I have no idea how anyone can side with Amber or claim that it is mutual abuse. It is either down to their preconceived notion that man=abuser and woman=victim, or they are just that blinded by stardom that they just support the…
/r/MensRights17/11/22 01:50 AM
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It's not. ​ Unfortunately, society sucks. Men are lucky in some topics, but miss out in others. Women are lucky in some, but miss out in others. ​ Historically, women have been more oppressed based on gender than men. Many can't see past this to realise that many of women's issues, besides abortion, are a result of this and will eventually, hopefully, die out in time. For example, women were not a part of medical or scientific research, so we know less about women in medicine than men. While the…
/r/MensRights17/11/22 01:45 AM
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That's completely fine. :) Even though it hasn't shifted my personal views and opinions on the topic, it has been interesting to hear an opposing opinion, so thank you for your polite response!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:33 AM
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Not a feminist! :) ​ OP has been friends with this lady for 10 years. Why even risk a hit to a friendship like that because you are horny one night. This is why mixed-gender relationships rarely work out in the long run. You would think that after 10 years, your friend would have a higher level of respect for you than to see you as a substitute for their left hand. That's the problem. ​ Also, after 10 years, she will have given some indication if she wanted to sleep with him. From OP's post, the…
/r/MensRights17/11/22 01:31 AM
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Problem is, you say don't take someone's word for who they are, but also say that someone's responses for your questions in early dating will show you who they truly are. If someone is good at lying, then they will easily manage the questions you can fit into an early date without scaring them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:22 AM
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Well, you did say that a man's ability to provide for himself and is successful is a positive reflection on his character. It doesn't mean anything of the sort. It purely means that he is good at what he does and managing money. Someone can be a great employee, but terrible partner. ​ When dating, people go for obvious personality and characteristics that they mesh well with. If people went purely for financially stable men, then people would be crying that women are shallow. If you are dating f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:16 AM
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That is true. There most certainly are women that will keep popping out children so they won't have to work, and the government will keep paying them. Perhaps a cap on the number of children that are supported by tax payer money would work. ​ The financial abortion would only be applied if the man applies during the pregnancy, or within 10 months of being informed about the child. If he applies, and the mother can prove that he was informed during that time, then he should pay the child support …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:12 AM
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Consent in an active situation is not a given, you are right. However, I am not implying that OP did anything heinous to her. I am questioning his logic, not the act of asking for sex. In this respect, consent is a given as nothing bad has happened, nor is the actual conversation at hand regarding consent. My comment originally was literally, only questioning the logic that he backed it up with. From what OP has said, it doesn't even sound like she had an issue with the fact that he sent a horny…
/r/MensRights17/11/22 12:59 AM
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No, not necessarily. There is a long-standing stereotype surrounding men. This is that men aren't emotional, caring or sentimental. As a result, many women do not even think that compliments, caring comments, gifts and dates are something that would make their partner happy. It also makes giving a man gift, compliment and offer of a paid for date feel like a risky gesture, when a bunch of flowers or a meal out for a girlfriend is almost an expected gesture every so often. ​ Breaking down the ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:50 AM
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You are expecting people to apply abstract thinking to a topic that is purely driven by emotion. Also, when dating, you don't get a chance to observe other people's true actions and intention since you are getting a persona that you believe will be likeable for the other person. This insight into someone's true character comes way later, by which point, emotions have rooted themselves into the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:46 AM
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Exactly that! Can never say I love you too many times to someone you love. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:22 PM
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True, true. From what I’ve observed in others relationships, people’s experiences and even the media to be fair, the woman is the prize and expects to still be treated as such. When in reality, if you have a happy, loving relationship, both parties have won. Giving gifts for no reason, compliments, being taken out on dates, are all stereotypically feminine things to receive for some reason. Doing these things in return for men isn’t even a thought for many ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:21 PM
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Depends on how long you date for, the types of dates you go on, how long it takes for guards to be lowered, how long it takes for parties to be truthful and open. Plus, you don’t truly know someone until you’ve lived with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:18 PM
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Of course I do. However when dating, it’s important to try and make the right impression and show who you are. Someone being stable financially does not mean they are going to be good person. Someone being poor isn’t automatically a good or bad person. Someone that makes a good impression can be an actual good person. Someone that makes a bad impression can be a good or bad person. However, you’re going to go for what attracts you. If you like confidence, then you’re going to go for that usually…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:16 PM
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Well, either you want the man to have no choice and deal with the consequences, or you don’t. I believe strongly that women should have the right to choose, and that men should have the right to choose. It’s also common sense to be fair, that you shouldn’t be bringing a child into the world if you can’t afford to support it in any way other than forcing the fella that doesn’t want anything to do with it, to pay. I’d rather the government finds a way. If it’s on the tax payer, so be it. I’d be fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:12 PM
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Nope, just didn’t think it logical to repeat what someone else has already said. If you haven’t already, you should answer. May reveal a double standard that you can work on. I won’t come back to Reddit in 20 years, because I wouldn’t whine and rant about someone not sleeping with me because they dared sleep with someone else.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 02:34 PM
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That’s true. However, if the government wanted more support for single mothers, then they should figure that out, instead of punishing the fella. At the end of the day, she should always get the right to choose whether or not she wants to keep her pregnancy, or get an abortion. Men don’t get any choice, and don’t deserve to be punished for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:32 PM
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That’s really interesting, thank you for the information!
/r/MensRights15/11/22 02:30 PM
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I hope you limbered up before you made that drastic leap. Consent is obviously a given. We aren’t talking about sexual violence. If they consent, then she may decide to sleep with every other friend of hers but him. Consent should be an obvious factor here, that didn’t need to be pointed out. Bit concerning that it had to be just in a bid to try and catch me out because I dared to call out this guy and his outrageous and offensive logic.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 02:29 PM
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Because his reasoning was completely out of order.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 02:07 PM
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… And yet you sit here and wonder why women don’t take you seriously? 🤣 As I said, delivery is important. If you approach a situation with that sour attitude, you won’t be listened to. Don’t be an ass, and you won’t be treated like one.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 02:07 PM
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“Unless you specifically tell a friend that you aren’t interested - sleeping with your friends shows you are willing to do so with any of your friends… Which would be totally valid, if she didn’t make a habit of sleeping with them. IMO, you can’t expect to be able to sleep with your friends AND expect not be sexualised by them.” She has not slept with him. She can fully expect to not be sexualised by him. Just because she slept with others, doesn’t mean that she is willing to do so with any one …
/r/MensRights15/11/22 02:05 PM
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When dating, you don’t know how that person is going to be as a husband or father. Appearances is all you have to go off at that stage. If someone poorer presents themselves better than someone richer, then women will be more drawn to the more likeable, poorer character.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:02 PM
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But, by that logic, men are the ones being dishonest then- not women? “They don’t care about truth or honesty in the real sense.” What’s to say that a man with money is more honest than a man without?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:01 PM
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I definitely do believe that it can be very one way from other relationships I’ve observed and the experiences of men that I’ve heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:51 PM
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Yeah I don’t even need to answer this really. The other commenter did a great job. Looking forward to reading your answer to the experiment!
/r/MensRights15/11/22 11:25 AM
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Didn’t say she was. We know that she has slept with her friends. We don’t know if that’s 20% of her friend group, 50%, 70% or 99% percent- with this guy being the last 1%. She still doesn’t need to sleep with him, nor should she be expected to. Body count or sexual history does not mean someone is owed anything.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 11:23 AM
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I get that. It’s not a perfect system. However, it’s the only safe way to give men some control. Guess in those instances, just got to hope that the kid was raised with enough back bone and self worth that they want nothing to do with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:17 AM
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I literally don’t see how being romantic toward your partner is de-sexualising them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:13 AM
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The incentive is making someone they care about happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:12 AM
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Does it hurt to try?
/r/MensRights15/11/22 11:11 AM
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If it’s first dates, then I think whoever asked for the date should pay. I believe that is just good manners. However if we are talking about during a relationship, then nah, it’s not important at all. Should be 50/50. Even if one person covers a date one time, the other person should be covering something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:20 AM
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… I’m sorry, I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not. Are you implying that woman are vain, unreasonable and dishonest… for caring about guy’s personality far more than his wallet?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:16 AM
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I think the reason why you are doing something is important. Are you going to the gym to work on your body for your own mental and physical well-being, or are you doing it to be good enough for someone in the future? Are you earning money for a better life for yourself, or so a stranger in the future may consider you as a dating candidate? At least with the women I know, myself included, all that stuff is not necessary. Sense of humour, attitude and personality is the big draw- and a nice smile …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:13 AM
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Yeah exactly this. Sometimes it is just for ease. Knowing the other persons password is not always a sign of lack of trust in a relationship, but more that everything is so swell, you just use it sometimes for putting a good tune on. Depends on the couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:06 AM
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Depends on the situation. Having the password can sometimes just be an element of transparency. However if you feel the need to go through your partners phone then clearly something is wrong, whether you find anything nefarious or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:05 AM
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That financial abortions are a necessity and a part of reproductive rights. I think women on the whole need to make more efforts in their romantic relationships with men. Why is flirting, woo-ing, thoughtful comments, compliments and gifts a female only luxury? Men deserve to feel loved, wanted and adored too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:02 AM
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I completely understand. Plus, it seems like a good idea to draw attention on a hot post already, since more will see it. Unfortunately it does just bring bad attention, and can come across as ‘I’ve got it worse than you’ when they are discussing important to them. I suppose it would be like a feminist jumping in here on a post about men on average are the ones losing out in divorces, with ‘yeah but women and domestic abuse stats’. Both are valid, but the second point does not need to be pointed…
/r/MensRights15/11/22 01:08 AM
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Oh it’s just awful. Truly is. Society is so weird and hateful toward natural bodies, to the point of literal mutilation. I hope change can be brought about soon over there.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 01:00 AM
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Thank you for this information. I read before somewhere that it’s down to fear of dirt and infection. Any truth in that being a reason? I always just thought, “well teach your son to wash it then, don’t just lob off bits”. It’s disgusting to be fair, regardless of the reason behind it. Such a barbaric and senseless thing to still be doing in 2022.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 12:53 AM
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Maybe it’s the way you’re putting it across? Delivery can make a big impact. Instead of using it as an argument point (if that’s what you do, I’ve not seen), maybe make your own post regarding it on there? Not trying to argue who has it worse, or dismissing any female issue, just as it’s own topic as it deserves to be. Apologies if that is what you have tried to do. As I said, I haven’t seen your posts or comments on this, I’m just going on the responses you say you’ve received. 😊
/r/MensRights15/11/22 12:41 AM
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From the sounds of things, she never once told you in those 10 years that she wanted to sleep with you either. What consequences of her actions are you referring to? Even if she has slept with 100 men, doesn’t mean that she wants to sleep with you, nor should that assumption ever be made.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 12:33 AM
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It really is so damn wrong. I have no idea why it is done so vastly over in the US.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 12:28 AM
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You are not owed sex. She may decide to sleep with every other friend of hers but you. You are still not owed sex from her. She has chosen to invite you into her life and share this information with you, and you have just shown her she shouldn’t have. She is not in the wrong in the slightest by arguing with you over this. You are misogynistic. “You can’t expect to be able to sleep with your friends AND not be sexualised by them” Yes, you can. She has slept with them, not you. You have literally …
/r/MensRights15/11/22 12:08 AM
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Being gay does not excuse you from misogyny, or make your woman-hating nonsense any cuter. Only being respectful and decent toward people you want to shag, makes you a terrible person. The person in the comment above was giving you the benefit of the doubt in saying that there could be a different reason why you hate women. It’s clear that you have some serious issues, that you like to try pin on anyone that disagrees with you. “Daddy issues” this, “your step-dad” that. Did your mum not give you…
/r/MensRights14/11/22 09:23 AM
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You’re right. If you aren’t willing to give the conversation the gravity it deserves, by claiming two different terms are the same thing as an attempt to dismiss and water it down, then it’s probably best you don’t partake.
/r/MensRights14/11/22 01:43 AM
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Fondled - to touch in a gentle and loving way Grope - to touch someone's body in order to get sexual pleasure, usually when the person does not like it. I am not being pedantic. We are talking about a very serious topic, and the correct wordage is important. I am not saying that it is the same as rape. However as it is something that is something sexual being done to someone else’s body without consent, that is sexual violence. Every woman I know has been sexually assaulted at some point in her …
/r/MensRights14/11/22 01:33 AM
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I appreciate that you took some more time. That was a little better, but still drastically missing the mark. I’d say you’re at a D- now, which is an improvement! I think we may be getting to the core of the problem here though, good work. If we are being honest here, it looks like you value your opinion far too highly. Hence why you feel so entitled to comment on my appearance as if I would somehow care deeply and change my sinful, make-up wearing ways. Saying that someone needs therapy when the…
/r/MensRights14/11/22 12:49 AM
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Uh… Well, not screaming in fear at all times over it, but yes? The fact sexual assaults happen often, are dismissed in the way you just have, and they’re literally someone feeling like they are entitled to just grab and claw at your body if they want to- regardless of how you feel about it. Don’t call it “fondled”. Call it what it is- groping. You also know being groped can hurt right? And it means that you are naturally going to be even more scared of strangers.
/r/MensRights14/11/22 12:44 AM
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I didn’t say anything about male victims here, since that isn’t a part of this exact conversation. Women are afraid of being attacked for the very reason I said above. 1/4. That’s why women are scared.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 11:20 PM
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It’s not serial killers. It’s being killed in general. Wayne Couzens was not a serial killer, he was a police officer, but he still raped and murdered a woman. You’re right, there are not many serial killers. They usually get caught after the first one. Women just don’t want to be that trial and error.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 09:14 PM
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It does not work like that. Again, you’re not attention seeking because you don’t want to be a sexual violence statistic, waiting in prison for carrying a weapon while waiting for enough other statistics to be arrested before change is made.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 09:12 PM
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Or, the woman, or other women she knows, have been victims of sexual violence and have seen how damaging that can be. Or perhaps it’s the endless barrage of stories in the news of yet another woman attacked. Or perhaps it’s statistics like 1 in 4 women will be victims of sexual violence. Or perhaps it’s posts like these, where they’re told to “stfu and come to terms with their bizarre mating behaviour and preferences” as if the assaults are somehow the woman’s fault. Maybe that’s why women are s…
/r/MensRights13/11/22 09:02 PM
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Possibly. But you can’t say then that women are attention seekers for being scared. Current stats for the U.K. say 1 in 4 women will be victims of sexual violence. You can’t be an attention seeker for being afraid of a real fear when you can’t even attempt to defend yourself from it.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 08:59 PM
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So you’re saying that women should break the law, and risk prison just to defend themselves on the chance that something happens to them? It’s not attention-seeking to not want to go to prison. How is it fair that women should risk losing years of their life, just so they can keep living it?
/r/MensRights13/11/22 07:55 PM
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How am I missing the point? Women consuming true crime has nothing to do with the conversation. Women have been fearful long before the true crime genre took off.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 05:19 PM
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https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-informed/statistics-sexual-violence/ For the U.K., currently it’s estimated that 1 in 4 women experience sexual violence.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 05:14 PM
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What kind of logic is this? Just because they enjoy true crime, doesn’t mean they want to be murdered? If someone enjoys Christmas movies, do they want to be Santa?
/r/MensRights13/11/22 05:07 PM
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Fascinating, bizarre and terrifying. 800+ upvotes and rising, it’s shocking.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 05:04 PM
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It’s illegal to carry any weapon in the U.K. without good reason. 1) Does someone with a trade that involves hammers carry one around on their person, within easy reach, when they’re out and about, or on nights out? 2) Women should not have to find a job that involves something that can be used as a weapon to just avoid being attacked. That is a completely unreasonable thing to expect. Again, you say that women should carry a weapon, and get a job that involves being able to carry that weapon le…
/r/MensRights13/11/22 04:59 PM
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In the U.K., it is illegal to carry a gun, taser or pepper spray. Then what?
/r/MensRights13/11/22 04:03 PM
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Or, not every single person has the time, money or ability to go to self defence courses?
/r/MensRights13/11/22 03:06 PM
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So you acknowledge that women need to learn self defence as there is a danger, but also say that women that fear that danger are attention seeking?
/r/MensRights13/11/22 02:35 PM
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This is a fantastic way of putting it.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 02:33 PM
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Hi! :) That is a good question. I can’t find them personally and I can’t do further research to find that right this moment. I can come back to it later for you though. The sources for the stats are further down the bottom of the page, with hyperlinks to the studies. No, unfortunately our definition of rape in the U.K. is flawed and not gender neutral. If you are in the U.K., someone on this sub has shared a petition to have the definition changed. I can find the petition for you if you are inte…
/r/MensRights13/11/22 02:07 PM
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I understand that. I go off these statistics as from my research, they are the most sound estimates and from reputable sources. I think an awareness when talking about these issues would help. While the fear is there, and a very human thing to have, the way it’s discussed does need to be careful. Women don’t deserve to live in fear, and good men don’t deserve to be the object of that fear. While I understand the logic behind the “it’s all men” statement - women do have to be careful of all men w…
/r/MensRights13/11/22 02:02 PM
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Well assault by penetration is penetration with an object or body part that isn’t a penis, which is why it has its own separate category in the U.K. I do agree that our definition of rape in the U.K. though needs modernising fast to include male victims by female perpetrators though. I shared the link above more for the comment saying that it’s 7.2%, when our best estimates to date say 1/4. Even if there is overlap in those categories, that should not skew that statistic necessarily as it’s comm…
/r/MensRights13/11/22 01:54 PM
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It says 1 in 4. That is a big enough percentage to warrant fear.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 12:50 PM
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I didn’t say it did. Also doesn’t say it’s 7.2% either. That’s the current stats for the U.K. from Rape Crisis though.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 01:52 AM
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They aren’t, you’re right. However, the same logic applies. If you have a baby, would you hand them over to a complete and utter stranger on the street while you went into a public restroom because /most/ people are good and nice? No, you wouldn’t. Stranger danger exists for a reason.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 01:46 AM
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What a delusional take. Do you know anything about the natural reactions to fear stimulant humans have? Fight, flight, freeze and fawn. You say now that if a big bloke came and attacked you in the dark that you would rip off his ear and get away easily. You have no idea how your body, or somebody else’s would react in that situation. You say that you don’t like the disrespect to actual victims of sexual violence, and yet completely discount natural, involuntary reactions to violence because you’…
/r/MensRights13/11/22 01:41 AM
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https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-informed/statistics-sexual-violence/
/r/MensRights13/11/22 01:36 AM
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That is true. More work needs to be done into workplace safety and men’s mental health, for sure. Women do have a longer life expectancy, however they are still discriminated in healthcare- at least in the U.K. There’s a lot of different ways that they are.
/r/MensRights12/11/22 11:50 AM
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If she hasn’t already, might be worth to keep asking for a second opinion from a different doctor? I’ve heard it’s quite the fight to get approval for it.
/r/MensRights12/11/22 11:44 AM
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Yeah, I just had the image of the organ being yanked from the body and being booted across the room so was struggling to see the equivalent.
/r/MensRights12/11/22 11:42 AM
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Unfortunately it’s very difficult to as a woman too. Many healthcare professionals are extremely reluctant to do these procedures on anyone unless they’re over 30 and have children already. It’s a load of bollocks though. You’d think in this day and age, we’d have more freedom over our bodies!
/r/MensRights12/11/22 03:44 AM
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“Interestingly, the same phenomenon was not viewed in men. Attractive male students maintained their small boost in grades compared to their less-attractive peers. Mr Mehric believes that this is because attractive males generally have other traits valuable in qualitative courses, like more self-confidence, which can be valuable during a graded class presentation. He also said that a majority of professors in the study were male, so female attractiveness could have been a stronger factor than th…
/r/MensRights12/11/22 03:38 AM
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There’s why. https://www.prb.org/resources/around-the-globe-women-outlive-men/
/r/MensRights12/11/22 02:24 AM
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… Okay I get what you’re going for with the last two. But ovaries pulled out and kicked? Can you please elaborate on that one for me because I’m scratching my head over here! 🤣
/r/MensRights12/11/22 02:17 AM
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Read the comments for that post you’ve shared. Don’t just take things at their word, actually read the criticism. Do you have a source for that about the NHS? I’ve looked, nothing. Fairly certain that would be bigger news if true. Don’t cite a Reddit post. No, it’s not cherry picking. The article itself goes through many, many different ways. The gender difference between men and women and healthcare in the U.K. has been acknowledged by Government. It’s a fact. The article has links to studies t…
/r/MensRights12/11/22 02:15 AM
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I’m sorry. You have clearly taken some time to try come up with a response, but that was a bit shit. I’m glad to see that my face has clearly caught your attention- that’s sweet. Do try to keep to the original subject at hand though, next time. There’s a time and place. Although if you are determined that this is something you want to discuss, perhaps you would be so brave as to put your face up so we can take turns critiquing you next time?
/r/MensRights12/11/22 01:56 AM
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You can’t answer any of the questions I asked because it brings your own logic into disrepair. That’s why.
/r/MensRights11/11/22 01:21 PM
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I have read through the link you have sent, and I cannot see anything here that is detrimental to men. Can you please explain your point on this so I can understand your side better?
/r/MensRights11/11/22 12:08 AM
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Do you have a source that men were treated worse for COVID? Also, are you referring to pregnant women here? If so, that’s why they were treated better. Common sense. How do you explain away these findings then? Ms Criado Perez has also highlighted that as research has focused on how men react to a health condition, this means that women are more likely to be misdiagnosed. The 2001 study ‘The Girl Who Cried Pain: A Bias Against Women in the Treatment of Pain’ argued that women: get prescribed les…
/r/MensRights10/11/22 09:13 PM
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Explain to me how that is misandrist.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 08:28 PM
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Okay so you can’t answer how I am misandrist, you just love to throw the word around. Women have been oppressed throughout history, all around the world.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 07:02 PM
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So, you can’t come up with a misandrist icon that is as popular, high profile, recent and talked about as Tate was at the time of him being banned, which would have proved a double standard. Can you please provide me with recent examples on such laws that have been put in motion so I can read up on them. Just because I disagree with you, doesn’t mean I am a troll.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 06:55 PM
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Aaaaaaaaaand it looks like you are unable to answer. 🤣
/r/MensRights10/11/22 05:19 PM
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Thank you very much! And thank you for your other comment too. 😊
/r/MensRights10/11/22 04:48 PM
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What did I say that was misandrist, and can you please also explain how it is actually misandrist? 😊
/r/MensRights10/11/22 04:46 PM
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Heyyyy again. 😊 For anyone reading. Here is a source on the gender healthcare gap in the U.K.: https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/womens-health-outcomes-is-there-a-gender-gap/ And here is a source from this month on car crash dummies and car safety testing, and the new developments made by a team of Swedish engineers, including an average female test dummy to go along with the male one used for decades. 😊 It’s only 2022, of course! https://www.topgear.com/car-news/crash/new-female-crash-test-dum…
/r/MensRights10/11/22 04:43 PM
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I have! Men were the decision makers and enforcers of the rules, laws and regulations that were oppressing women. While it may not be nice to hear, but blaming men or something men did is not misandry… It’s just history.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 04:11 PM
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I’m not playing coy. I am just correcting. Can you name a misandrist icon that is as high profile, talked about, recent and popular as Tate was at the point of being banned?
/r/MensRights10/11/22 04:10 PM
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Sorry I think you’ve gotten confused. I’m talking about abortion, not child murdering. 😊 No, Andrew Tate frequently breached social media guidelines. He was right to be removed. The reason he was removed, and random online misandrists, is Andrew Tate was high profile, which brought attention to what his rule breaks.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 03:50 PM
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Yeah, no it isn’t. We have the science and ability to grant women the right to a safe and legal abortion. Denying her the right to decide what to do with her own body and the thing that is growing within her own body, is a breach of her bodily autonomy. Unless you are literally sperm, the pregnancy isn’t a breach of your bodily autonomy as a man, because it is not actually affecting your body. I don’t think you quite understand how this works. The morning after pill is exactly what is says on th…
/r/MensRights10/11/22 03:30 PM
4

The Declaration of Sentiments of 1848 was not man-hating, nor promoted hatred or misandry. It was a bid for equality.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 03:13 PM
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Okay, so I have read through the sources you have provided there. While I completely sympathise with the experiences that boys have at school, just because boys have a bad experience, does not mean that girls have it easy. Nor are these experiences the rule. I could easily write a bullet point list of bad things i experienced throughout my education. School sucks, it’s an awful time and people are cruel regardless of age. However, we should aim to raise better, more emphatic children- not create…
/r/MensRights10/11/22 03:10 PM
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I love that answer! Very, very well put. 😊 I completely agree with you. Women not wanting to be submissive and passive is not a bad thing in of itself, it’s completely understandable. Before doing research into it, I had no idea how badly women and girls have been conditioned to take up as little space in society as possible, even through differences in language usage. As you rightly put it- fuck that!
/r/MensRights10/11/22 02:58 PM
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But do you think it is fair that a woman’s existence is to be submissive, passive and ‘cooperative’ of their male counterparts?
/r/MensRights10/11/22 01:06 PM
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Do you even know what you are on about? Sperm, that was put inside the female during consensual intercourse, no longer has anything to do with the bodily autonomy of the man. It’s a bodily substance. Someone stealing your piss from the loo isn’t a breach of your bodily autonomy… it would just be a weird thing to do. I am not talking about the morning after pill. I am talking about abortions. Medical and surgical. There is risk, possible complications, and a healing process to go through after. T…
/r/MensRights10/11/22 01:02 PM
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I think separation is probably the worst thing that can be done, personally. I think social media detoxes are important, as well as stricter control on extreme material and ideologies. It’s easy to get swept up in the hate, so it’s important to learn when to take a step back and reevaluate if these thoughts and feelings truly belong to you, or someone else. Boys should be raised with the knowledge that their thoughts and feelings are valid and important. Girls should be raised stronger, and more…
/r/MensRights10/11/22 12:20 PM
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Would you love to be expected to be passive and ‘cooperative’? If not, then why do you think women do?
/r/MensRights10/11/22 11:40 AM
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““The main takeaway is that there is a beauty premium both for males and for females when teaching is on-site,” Mehic explained. “But for females, this effect disappeared when teaching was conducted online. This, at least to me, suggests that the beauty premium for males is due to some productive attribute (for instance, them having higher self-confidence) rather than discrimination, whereas it is due to discrimination for women.””
/r/MensRights10/11/22 11:27 AM
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I can read, buddy. Just no idea what the hell you are on about.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 11:23 AM
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No. I do believe in bodily autonomy. I believe in not forcing women to carry a foetus they don’t want, or forcing women to have abortions for a foetus they do want. Men not having a say in what happens to a woman’s body is not them missing out on bodily autonomy. They have consensually provided the female with their sperm through intercourse, and that has led to an unwanted pregnancy. It’s not a breach of his bodily autonomy. If paper abortions are a legal right for men, then he has no parental …
/r/MensRights10/11/22 11:22 AM
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The biggest example of how you are incorrect, is the overturning of Roe V Wade. The biggest example of a prominent male influencer is Andrew Tate. He was banned from social media as his content breached social media guidelines for promoting hate.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 10:29 AM
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What?
/r/MensRights10/11/22 10:27 AM
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It isn’t. Women experience shit because they’re women. Men experience shit because they’re men. Add the pissed off people to an echo chamber- now it’s hate. You cannot pin point the exact moment that this started, or who started it. … I also don’t think that just because “well, they’re doing it too!!” is a very mature way to approach a gender debate.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 10:08 AM
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OoooOoOoo! No need to get sassy, love. I’m sure it’s very easy to comment on the appearance of others while hiding behind an avatar. 😊
/r/MensRights10/11/22 10:04 AM
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Sure. You are choosing to ignore common sense and rationale in favour for random false facts, statistics and opinions that you have seen on Reddit. While social media can be absolutely fantastic at times, there are other instances where it merely becomes an echo chamber. The hatred and bigotry between the two genders is on the rise, and rapidly so, due to social media. Pressure for men to dislike women is rising, as is the pressure for women to dislike men. It’s all a part of trying to fit in, h…
/r/MensRights10/11/22 03:19 AM
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I sincerely hope you are referring to the OP here, otherwise you are just as brainwashed as this guy.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 02:23 AM
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There’s a lot to unpack here, buddy. I recommend that you do so with a therapist.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 02:14 AM
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What are you talking about with “reparations”? As I’ve already said, I agree with paper abortions for men. Birth control is not 100% effective. If you don’t know, abortions are not a walk in the park. They are not a breeze to go through. Unless the woman is seriously mental unstable, no one is using abortion regularly as a form of birth control. No one wants an abortion, they just don’t want to be pregnant. I don’t care about why bible thumpers are out in force. Religion is a toxic, brainwashing…
/r/MensRights10/11/22 02:10 AM
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… The fact this has upvotes is concerning. Women having the right to abortions, and men having the right to paper abortions is the only truly fair way to go about the situation. Men should not get an equal say in what is to happen to the foetus as they are not the one growing it. Just because they helped create it, doesn’t mean they should be able to dictate what happens to another persons body in any shape or form, including pregnant or abortion. As I have said, I agree with paper abortions as …
/r/MensRights09/11/22 09:41 PM
2

“Social stigma doesn’t matter” “Obviously social stigma matters” What?
/r/MensRights09/11/22 08:54 PM
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… Social stigma matters. If you don’t believe it does, then I don’t think you should be commenting on the subject. Surveys have their place, but their faults are recognised by everyone except you, it would seem.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 08:27 PM
2

You quite literally became evidence of a social stigma that would influence how someone would respond in a survey about sex.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 07:53 PM
2

… All it takes is common sense and some understanding of the subject to dismiss it. Why do you think these are studies exclusively used by MRA subreddits, and not hailed as truth in psychology or sociology?
/r/MensRights09/11/22 07:43 PM
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I have already said and explained though how the studies that have found a correlation between the two lack validity and reek of bias. Can you get that into your head before we continue?
/r/MensRights09/11/22 06:33 PM
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Not fiction, at all. 😊 As I have already said, the study of sex and infidelity through surveys is inherently flawed and lack validity. Thus, we cannot say that the conclusions drawn are fact. So, it cannot be used as a factor when saying that body count matters. Any other arguments for that, btw?
/r/MensRights09/11/22 06:20 PM
1

I did say excluding crimes.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 05:30 PM
1

Wow, looks like I’ve touched a nerve! If this conversation is too much for you to emotionally handle, you’re welcome to sit out of it. No, women with a higher body count is not more likely to cheat. There is a correlation between someone having a higher body count and infidelity according to surveys. There is nothing to say that a high body count causes someone to cheat. That’s where you’ve gotten confused. I know there is no evidence that suggests that, that’s my point. You are making a vast as…
/r/MensRights09/11/22 04:15 PM
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I think you’re conflating a small number of bigots with an entire movement. To say that the voices of a few represent that of the many does not help anyone. By that logic, MRA is full of incels that hate women. Is it? No, of course not. That’s just a loud minority of people that discredit the movement they claim to be a part of. It’s the same logic that follows the “it’s all men” saying, which I know this group rightly is against.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 12:47 PM
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If you had actually read the comment you’ve responded to, you’ll see that I agree with paper abortions and believe they should be fought for. It does take two to tango. A woman cannot become pregnant on her own. She should have the right to an abortion if she wants it. He should have the right to a paper abortion if he wants it. Equal.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 12:44 PM
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You say that, and yet I see many articles here complaining about men not having sex as much as they did 10 years ago, and men not having relationships. This number would dwindle right down if every single woman decided on this moment to no longer have sex with a man unless they wanted to have a child with them as an outcome of the intercourse. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. As I said, I 100% agree with paper abortions as a method of autonomy for men, and I agree strongly with reproduct…
/r/MensRights09/11/22 12:43 PM
1

Drake was most definitely at fault for the situation with Millie Bobbie Brown. I don’t know how old you are, but I assume 20+? Do you have anything in common with a random 14 year old? Would you text “I miss you so much” to a 14 year old, like he did? He was being a creep toward her, plain and simple. His decision to be a creepy groomer does not mean that she has any ‘red flags’. Let’s not blame a child for the actions of an adult, or act like they carry any signal now that she is bad news becau…
/r/MensRights09/11/22 12:38 PM
2

Funny, I don’t remember that being a part of this conversation? 🤨
/r/MensRights09/11/22 12:33 PM
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Or, people are entirely unique human beings and their thought processes, morals and attitudes cannot be easily summed up in a survey to conclude something so concrete. It could be that people with higher body counts are more likely to cheat. It could be that people with lower body counts are lying about infidelity more, and be more likely to cheat than someone with a high body count. Or, there is no difference in infidelity rates between someone with a high or low body count. Or, someone with a …
/r/MensRights09/11/22 12:32 PM
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Hi again! 😊 No, I’m afraid not. The problem with these types of studies is that they are entirely survey based. The only thing that is does prove, is that women who CLAIM to have a low body count, also CLAIM to have never cheated on their partner. The issues with studies, especially when there is so much negativity still surrounding female sexuality, is that you cannot guarantee, or even bank on honesty. While you could argue that that in of itself could mean that the numbers are higher than we …
/r/MensRights09/11/22 01:15 AM
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Ah okay. I am sorry that you had that type of relationship, and I hope you’re doing better now. I have heard of it previously, but as it’s something I have not encountered nor can imagining doing, couldn’t wrap my head around the logic of it. Thank you for taking the time to explain further for me. 😊
/r/MensRights09/11/22 01:00 AM
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I suppose it comes down to how you view sex, surely? If you view it as something you are entitled to, then you will feel angry if your partner says no after an argument. If you view it as transactional, then you’ll feel angry if you don’t get it after doing something good for the other person and will feel entitled to it. If you view it as just something two people do when they want, then it’s just that your partner doesn’t want to do it.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 12:55 AM
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No problem. I get it’s hard to provide a source on it due to the language barrier. In my research, it was mostly articles on rape laws being updated in late 2020/ early 2021 to become more modern, which is good. Couldn’t see anything about the other, unless you’re referring to how long you can report a rape after the fact?
/r/MensRights09/11/22 12:53 AM
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Well it does take two to tango, so men are equally responsible for unwanted pregnancies - with the exception of sexual violence. However, the decision of what happens to these pregnancies will always be that of the woman, as she has to carry it. Access to safe and legal abortions, and paper abortions for men, are very important causes to fight for.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 12:50 AM
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Could you please elaborate on why you think so? I’ve never seen an argument for this that is actually valid.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 12:46 AM
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I apologise if I have misunderstood what you have said. However, if she wasn’t happy, or didn’t want to have sex, then she is within her rights to say no to that. You are then within your rights to leave if you aren’t happy with the sex life aspect of the relationship. Marriage doesn’t mean you’re owed anything.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 12:46 AM
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I understand you don’t have to leave the U.K. to get away with crimes. That’s why in the U.K., we have such a low conviction rate in comparison to reported rapes and sexual assaults. However, he does have a repeated pattern of abuse and sexual violence allegations. He has also said those very words in the quote there. That’s not taking anything out of context, the context is provided. As you have pointed out, nothing gets done if there is no evidence, and allegations only go so far. So if someon…
/r/MensRights09/11/22 12:44 AM
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Hi, I’m back. Thanks for your patience there. I’ve done my best to read through your other comments and make sense of the translations. From what you have written, and my own research, it seems like the withdrawing consent does just refer to during the act, not after the fact?
/r/MensRights09/11/22 12:41 AM
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A relationship can mean romantic, sexual, platonic or familial. When used, it doesn’t inherently mean romantic or sexual. She has clarified their relationship in the article by discussing his strict ‘terms and conditions’ and how she adheres to them. In this scenario, the terminology that she used is perfect when describing what she is. She was a child when starting stranger things, so she has a sibling like bond with the other kids, and a more parental-child like relationship with the adults. T…
/r/MensRights08/11/22 11:41 PM
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Well withdrawing consent means that when someone says stop half way through intercourse, the other person has to stop or else it’s rape? I can see that you’ve put two comments. I’ll read over both and respond again.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 11:37 PM
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Do you have any link or source regarding the “half a year later retract your consent, legally making it a rape under danish law”? I’d like to read more about that.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 05:12 PM
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As I explained though, the term ‘adult relationship’ fits perfectly in this situation. It’s others inferring too much into the conversation. The actor above has been very firm with his boundaries with other actors in the last few years- this is nothing new for him. She’s just commenting on what that’s like- in comparison to the relationships she has with her co-stars on Stranger Things.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 04:36 PM
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I don’t think we can really blame the 14 year old Millie Bobby Brown for the incident with a fully grown man. How is she a bit f-ed up mentally? I’m not sure where you’re getting this from.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 04:14 PM
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Since she has not done anything wrong, I don’t think a “harsher the better” lesson is really warranted? In case others didn’t know, I just explained why the wording “adult relationship” makes perfect sense for her to say, and not misleading in the slightest. It wasn’t an innuendo of any kind, it is literally an adult relationship.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 03:54 AM
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Did you actually read the article?
/r/MensRights07/11/22 07:32 PM
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Hi! 😊 I think the problem lies there with assuming that not only is sexual violence something that is easy to prove, but also underestimating the forgiving nature of the public. There are plenty of examples of famous. terrible individuals that have even admitted to their crimes, that have never had to spend a day in prison for them. Names like Epstein, Snowden and Assange are completely different to folk like Tate. He left the U.K. around the same time that he was being investigated in the U.K. …
/r/MensRights07/11/22 07:21 PM
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He’d had allegations against him for years, before he became what he is now. From a bunch of different women over the years. It’s less of a Heard situation, and more of a pattern. Plus he has said he’s moved to where he has due to its leniency.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 11:57 PM
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She is only young, and mostly interacts with kids in their late teens. That’s why it feels like an adult relationship.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 11:25 PM
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Hi. Can you please actually confirm your personal definition of independent? That may help us understand each other better. Men are more likely to have extra-marital relations than women. https://www.colorado.edu/asmagazine/2018/04/04/extramarital-sex-partners-likely-be-close-friends-and-men-are-more-apt-cheat What about highly educated men? Do you disapprove of them too? Learning has been found to improve happiness. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tracybrower/2021/10/17/learning-is-a-sure-path-to-…
/r/MensRights29/10/22 06:17 PM
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Well that is a bleak view of marriage. Of course happiness matters. I’d hope you would teach your sons to pursue someone they are happy with, not just remain with them out of duty. That is a terrible bit of advice. If you aren’t being treated how you deserve by your partner, even after communicating this, then you should leave them. Everyone deserves to be with someone that holds them accountable for their shit. No one should just be doing whatever they want without someone telling them what for…
/r/MensRights29/10/22 03:57 PM
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How is that against men? Genuinely, how? Are you that ready to see hatred in everything? A woman that is independent, headstrong and educated is less likely to NEED a partner, and will leave if the relationship is unhappy. Instead of encouraging your sons to search for a gullible woman that meets their mothers standards, just keep encouraging them to be good people and good future partners.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 03:11 PM
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It’s a woman less likely to tolerate nonsense.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 03:04 PM
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Ah yes. Popular opinion always dictates truth. 🤣
/r/MensRights29/10/22 11:36 AM
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Not everyone that disagrees with you is a troll. You haven’t come up with a lot of rationale. You delved straight in with attempting to insult my intelligence, then claimed the comment I responded to was a hyperbole, which it was not. You had a vast overreaction to my comment, which I called out. Now you’re attempting to spin a very short interaction around, to me being the emotional one here. Nice try. You don’t have anything to argue, as you were just wrong in regards to the original comment b…
/r/MensRights29/10/22 11:11 AM
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That’s true, the awareness drive only tends to focus on women issues. I completely agree with that. However the funding aspect does vary from issue to issue. For example, men’s suicide prevention has more campaigns to help, and receives more funding. However, less than 2.5% of publicly funded research is dedicated to reproductive health, despite 1/3 women in the U.K. suffer from reproductive & gynaecological issues. In comparison, there is five times more research into erectile dysfunction, whic…
/r/MensRights29/10/22 10:35 AM
2

What if he falls for a highly educated, independent woman that cares deeply for women’s rights?
/r/MensRights29/10/22 10:16 AM
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I understand that. However, your original comment said nothing about conscripting all, just the ones in the post above. It is still an extreme response to the article.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 10:11 AM
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I don’t, unless the conversation calls for emotion. I was not the one here that started throwing around insults and accusations because someone pointed out murder and homelessness are incomparable.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 10:09 AM
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Is that all you have left to debate on this?
/r/MensRights29/10/22 10:07 AM
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I completely agree. Unfortunately the stats we have are ultimately estimates, or based purely on reports- which doesn’t give a fair representation into the number of rapes that happen. I do think if we had some crystal ball and could know the actual stats, then numbers survivors of sexual violence would be so much higher than we currently believe, of both genders. Our current definition of rape is incredibly outdated, and really needs to change. Someone shared a petition in this sub recently to …
/r/MensRights28/10/22 08:22 PM
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The comment I responded to, discussed a potential experiment. That is not hyperbole, but deliberately attempting to compare the two issues, to claim double standards against men. Actually go back, read the comment and actually think about whether you’re speaking from an emotional or objective place, then you may resume talking to me.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 07:22 PM
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You originally said “Conscript them” to the post about single and child free women.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 06:56 PM
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If this conversation is too emotional for you, then I’d recommend not partaking in it. The attempt at a comparison is nonsensical. It completely fails as a comparison. Both issues are very widely in weight, which of course, would grant different repercussions. Homelessness and murder is not a good comparisons to make. Saying that does not make me a bad person. Like I said, if you’re too emotionally invested in this, you may want to take a step back.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 06:56 PM
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And that’s shit. You know that’s shit. Why does the general woman that decides to be single and childless deserve it?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 06:29 PM
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Homelessness… Murder. Yeah, they’re the same.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 05:17 PM
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Don’t think the “real men” ideology helps men in the slightest. Every man is a real man.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 05:15 PM
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This wasn’t about mothers and wives. You said this in particular, on a post about child free and single women. Why is that? Why is that justified? Why do women deserve a punishment that you disagree with for men, just because they don’t fit a standard?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 05:14 PM
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To imply that men on average, would do what Leonardo does if he could, is a discredit . Not everyone is so materialistic and vain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:13 PM
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Still quite unnecessary. Why don’t you spend your time arguing against conscription in general, instead of just wishing to add women to it because they dare to be single and childless.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 03:41 PM
1

But no definitive evidence has decided whether that is correlation or causation. The “amount of Chad cock most of the attractive women have taken by 40” comment is unfounded on anything, and just reeks of petty bigotry.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 03:41 PM
1

Whether it is a justified comment to make given the context of the original post.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 03:38 PM
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I’ve argued with this person before, so I doubt it is tongue and cheek. There is a distinct lack of empathy between the two sides, unfortunately. Everything has become the oppression olympics- a competition of who has it worst. A post about the right to abortion- “Yeah well men don’t have the right to a paper abortion.” A post about the right to paper abortion- “Yeah well women don’t have the right to an abortion.” Just stops anything from actually being done about either as all energy and time …
/r/MensRights28/10/22 03:36 PM
0

Why do you believe it is justified?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 02:39 PM
1

Exactly this.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 02:39 PM
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I completely understand that, and sympathise. However the post itself has nothing to do with conscription. Sharing the pain is also not the answer. Seeing that women are choosing to be single and childless does not mean they deserve conscription either.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 02:39 PM
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Do you have a link for this? :)
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:59 PM
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Still sounds like jealousy, bud. What actually counts as a high body count? That’s subjective as hell. What about the women that have been fucked over by these fellas, how’s the blame on her for having a higher body count?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:45 PM
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Body count does not matter, correct. Just sounds like jealousy, to be fair.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:40 PM
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Bit extreme, no?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:35 PM
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Strictly vetting and judging their partners will create a distance between yourself and your sons.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:34 PM
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I’m embarrassed for you while reading that comment. Yikes. 🤣
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:33 PM
-1

How will it increase… if women are having children significantly less?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:31 PM
1

Bit extreme, no?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:30 PM
1

There are more risks associated with female sterilisation, than male. Female sterilisation also requires general anaesthetic not local. Vasectomies are cheaper. Female sterilisation can also result in ectopic pregnancies, which are dangerous. Female sterilisation has a longer and harsher recovery time.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 11:15 AM
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That’s completely fair enough. 😊 A possible workout is the fella has those 3-6 months after finding out about the child, regardless of when it is.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 11:08 AM
1

The Office for National Statistics figures show every year that one in the three victims of domestic abuse are male equating to 757,000 men (1.561m women). Of domestic abuse crimes recorded by the police, 26% were committed against men. This equates to c155,000 offences per year. Over the past five years (April 2015 to March 20), on average 12 men per year had been killed by a partner or ex-partner (74 women per year).
/r/MensRights28/10/22 11:04 AM
1

That’s kind of their own fault, no?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 11:02 AM
1

Research hasn’t proved yet whether the rates of suicide attempts, and self harm are linked through correlation or causation. Either way, there is a link there. I wasn’t attempting to water down the men’s issue. As I said before, most suicide prevention is focused on men - which it should be as they have a higher mortality rate. Men unfortunately opt on average for a more lethal method of suicide, which is why their stats are so high. Women are also more likely to get help for their mental health…
/r/MensRights28/10/22 11:01 AM
1

I think that’s a vast overgeneralisation and an absolute discredit the the average man. If that’s your preference, that’s fine. But don’t extend it to men overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:54 AM
1

I know that, that’s why I said it tends to, not always does. There’s a correlation between maturity levels and age. The rest I agree with. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:48 AM
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Hi! :) The study came from the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, 2022. https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics/ Samaritans, the Suicide Prevention Charity, have also released statistics, which are interesting if you fancy a read. https://media.samaritans.org/documents/ResearchBriefingGenderSuicide_2021_v7.pdf “In England, approximately 8% of women and 5% of men report they have attempted suicide at some point in their lives” “In Scotland, 13.8% of women and 8.8% of men between 18 and 34 ye…
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:47 AM
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I don’t think anything can massively be done about the creepy fellas. Many know what they are doing is wrong, which is why they enjoy doing it. I think just compassion for women for this, encouraging bodily autonomy in children, and better equipped mental health facilities are the only things that can be really done. :)
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:34 AM
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It’s a men’s suicide prevention charity. Went absolutely huge a few years ago now, everyone was promoting it for quite a while. https://andysmanclub.co.uk Much of the imagery on Samaritans, another suicide prevention charity, is focused on men, as are their campaigns. https://www.samaritans.org/support-us/campaign/ There’s a big focus on government schemes and campaigns for suicide prevention for men, thankfully. 😊
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:31 AM
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I completely believe you. 😊 I have, unfortunately. It’s also unfortunate that because the good fellas don’t do this, they go past about their day without us even noticing. It’s the bad ones that stick in your head and feel like a majority, when it’s really not.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:26 AM
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Well, Andy’s Man Club exists, and the vast majority of suicide awareness campaigns focus heavily on men. Despite the fact that women and girls attempt suicide 1.5 - 2 times more often than boys and men.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:24 AM
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Oh there’s a lot. The looking up and down your body. Talking to a man and he’s realising not listening, he’s just staring at your chest. Whistles as you walk past. Being told you have a nice ass or tits when you’re just trying to go about your day. Running errands, walking to the shop, hell, I had it on the way to school when I was a kid. Turning everything you say into some weird, far fetched innuendo. Just hovering around for no reason, grin on face, just staring. Last time I wore a skirt, I h…
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:20 AM
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If the issue was predominantly faced by men, then I’m sure it would be. However as this doesn’t, and it’s about getting the information out there, it actually makes much more sense to focus on the main population of victims. Otherwise it loses effectiveness.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:14 AM
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I think that’s doing men a disservice, don’t you? Surely men would do a bit of their own research before just jumping into something like that? Wouldn’t you? It’s not about solitary. It’s about a couple deciding they don’t want a pregnancy, and the fella has taken this step so his partner doesn’t have to use hormonal birth control and face those side effects?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:13 AM
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I’d hope the men having them would at least do research themselves before going ahead with something like that?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:11 AM
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It’s the gawking, staring and rude comments that women complain about. As you say, men generally know not to do that. It’s just a few bad ones that exist. Women generally do not kick off at a man looking in their direction. It’s just a few bad ones that exist.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:07 AM
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How is the ad a testament to how female-focused society is? As explained beautifully above, the victims in 3/4 reported cases are female. So the ad will of course centre itself in a way to potentially help as many victims as possible. If men made up 3/4 of the victims instead of women, and the ad focused on men, would you say that’s an issue?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 12:59 AM
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From what I have researched, the main issue with finding a partner is the fewer number of new people you generally encounter the older you become. Without the aid of a dating app, of course. So I see where you are coming from. There’s a good chance that someone dating in their 30s had a significant relationship in their 20s that obviously failed, so they were snagged, technically. It just didn’t work out for whatever reason. I don’t believe that it is fair whatsoever to say that a woman is jaded…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:53 AM
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To you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:47 AM
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That’s true. And maturity tends to come hand in hand with ageing. In which case, relationship longevity is still more of a likelihood by perusing a relationship older.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:46 AM
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There are dozens of other porn categories, however there have been an overwhelming amount of searches attempting to filter those out to exclusively see older women. I respect your opinion, and the fact you have kept this civil, thank you. However I do think we have changed. The problem as well is the difference between saying someone is objectively attractive, and actually being attracted to them. I have already had this conversation on this post, so I do apologise if that was with you and I am …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:44 AM
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The only problem with that is what if the woman deliberately withholds the information from him until after this duration, to guarantee child support. What do you suggest to work around that? :)
/r/MensRights28/10/22 12:35 AM
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It’s not about the woman’s life, it’s about the child. It’s not great, but I don’t believe that’s fair. A woman can abort the foetus regardless of whether the fella wants it, or not. Totally agree with that. Just a sad fact for the lads that cannot be changed. The flip side is that he can choose to stay in the child’s life, even if the mother doesn’t want him to.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 12:33 AM
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Still not frothing at the mouth. That’s a select few. 😊 Sugar mommy’s exist too, don’t forget.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:30 AM
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That’s a very mature argument, well done! Although, I’m afraid Reddit is 13+ plus, buddy. Might need to come back in a few years. 😊
/r/MensRights27/10/22 06:18 PM
1

Men aren’t frothing at the mouth to be with an 18 year old, either. Attraction is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 03:22 PM
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If the man has chosen to pay child support, then he should be allowed to be a part of the child’s life. If he chooses not to, then she is a single mother now.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 03:20 PM
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That studies attractiveness, not attraction itself. Both entirely different beasts. A guy man can have zero attraction toward a woman, but still acknowledge and understand that she is an attractive woman. That’s the problem when trying to remain so objective on a completely subjective problem. What a man may point to as more attractive in a study, does not mean that that is what he would choose in the real world. He is just saying that objectively, this person is more attractive. That is why the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 03:19 PM
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Younger people are quite literally easier to manipulate due to their age. Don’t speak for an entire population of men from your own preferences. It’s not a minority of men that have searched up that category. A survey is a survey. The sources you are discrediting just report the findings of a survey. It’s essentially an opinion poll. Chalking attraction up to one key factor is over simplifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:23 PM
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Wow that is absolutely disgusting. 😔
/r/MensRights27/10/22 02:18 PM
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They are. And it’s awful. However, it’s the same problem as mentioned for the other side. If it’s not something that can be proven, then there’s nothing really that can be done.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 11:53 AM
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I do think that’s a heavy disservice to modern men. We are in 2023, and men aren’t beating their chest and bludgeoning sexual competitors for the youngest, wide-hipped woman in the settlement. As I said elsewhere, if men are attracted to young women on an instinctual, biological level, then why is MILF one of the most top searched categories on porn sites?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:52 AM
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I don’t think I agree. I do believe that would cause many men to lose out on relationships with wanted children. Paper abortions would stop a man being forced to pay for a child if he signs before they are born, or early into their life, which would essentially remove his rights to the child. This would be a fair male equivalent to an abortion.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 11:50 AM
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Yes of course I would care. I wouldn’t want someone that just accepted what I said and did. Everyone should want to be called out if they’re being a dick. I’d want a partner, not a lapdog. I understand that those sources are not fantastic, however when using survey style studies, answers often vary between different study groups. If younger women from 18-24 are undeniably more sexually attractive in an instinctual, biological level, why is Milf one of the most searched categories on porn sites? …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:46 AM
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Marie Curie was rejected from the French Academy of Sciences in 1911. Curie was never inducted into the French Academy of Sciences, and it took them until 1962 to finally induct a woman. The French Academy were adamant that “A woman, whatever her intellectual qualifications, can no more become a member of an academy than the educated monkeys Consul […] for the same reason. Neither is Human” For her research in “radiation phenomena,” Curie became, in 1903, the first woman to receive a Nobel Prize…
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:41 AM
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Look, man. I don’t think this argument is going anywhere. You don’t seem to quite understand why your view on this is outrageous and we are going around in circles. Men in the West can literally not compare their situation to that of women in Iran. Men in Iran are fighting on behalf of human rights, for their female loved ones, without need for ‘credit’ right now. The news outlets are focused on the young girls that are being arrested in droves, and the absolute massacres being committed against…
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:31 AM
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I don’t doubt it at all. That is probably why. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that statement toward women. I understand it’s simplistic, and doesn’t account for attraction which is also highly important, but going for longer lasting traits instead of focusing just on beauty is good advice imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:19 AM
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My original argument on this was about whether women actually ‘settle’ in their 30s as they didn’t get a match in their 20s, and that I disagree. As the grounds for what classes as settling, or winning, surely these are highly subjective and cannot be applied to relationships found in 30s as some form of objective truth. The point of relationships and marriage is to have some that lasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:16 AM
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Exactly! Life experiences do make up for so much. I also think it’s quite the disservice to young blokes in their 30s to say that they want someone 18 years old with no life experience as a long term partner, instead of a young lady in her 30s who he will actually have things in common with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 12:30 AM
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I suppose it depends where you have researched. That’s the issue with survey style studies. The results can vary. However in a few examples: In this study, 67% of women said that character traits such as faithfulness and kindness were important factors. In comparison, only 12% valued height, handsomeness and a muscular build. https://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/a19535604/top-20-traits-she-wants/ And this study: “Both the men and women were more attracted to the profiles of people who seemed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 12:25 AM
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Well to be fair, if you wait long enough you’ll likely see the people that got hitched in their 20s back in the dating pool in your 30s and 40s. 🤣 While I don’t personally agree, I fully respect your opinion, and appreciate that this hasn’t turned into an ugly debate. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 12:14 AM
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I think you are conflating someone being outspoken, as someone being obnoxious, or stubborn . Someone that is outspoken is more likely to call the other person out on their shit, stand their own ground. They are also less likely to play games, and be more upfront on their feelings and emotions. I’ll be frank and admit that statistics to vary from study to study. That’s the problem with survey studies, really. I have seen stats that say otherwise, such as the link below. “The younger the responde…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 12:12 AM
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No neither do I. Reproductive rights as a whole should be just that- a right. 😊
/r/MensRights27/10/22 12:01 AM
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Older women tend to be more mature with their baggage and are more likely to have started therapy, or made peace. I don’t quite see what a 30/40+ male has anything in common with a 18-24 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 12:00 AM
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Could you please elaborate on this for me please, so I definitely understand what you mean? 😊 I don’t want to waste your time responding in length, if I’ve misunderstood.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 11:59 PM
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Not necessarily. There’s plenty that were in what they deemed as happy relationships, but they broke down for some reason or another. In which case, entering a new happy relationship at 30 not only puts divorce statistics on your side, but also is a much better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 11:57 PM
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I don’t quite know where this notion has come from, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 11:56 PM
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I don’t like this idea of a higher quality or lower quality man. Not only because I find it quite unfair for the average fella, but I also think that that is highly subjective. If you do some research into what it is that women seek out in partners, it’s mostly personality traits, such as a good sense of humour, or confidence. A young woman in her “prime”, is likely to have lower standards, yes. Typically speaking, they are much less likely to have their heartbroken, or to have relationship expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 11:55 PM
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I don’t quite personally understand dating someone without intention to see it further, but that’s me personally and how I had chosen to dictate my time. There are plenty of others who disagree. The problem is that divorce rates are significantly higher the younger you get married. By that logic, the market will likely be people that have had a long term relationship and have split, now looking for new- not undesirables and people optionally single. Waiting to marry until 30s is statistically a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 11:51 PM
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It’s far from perfect. There are women past their “peak” that are more fertile than women in their “peak”. Perhaps we should choose our mates on more factors than beauty- which fades over time, and opt for other things- like personality. In which case, someone that has entered a relationship for something such as personality is actually winning over someone that has chosen a younger, more beautiful woman that they are less compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 11:48 PM
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In which case, it’s more about a person’s own standards, determination to find someone that meets them, and their own personal views on relationships that dictate whether someone settles, not time?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 11:45 PM
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So… Fertility and egg quality are not actually a factor when it comes to beauty. If that was true, then infertile women would be incredibly obvious from their appearance. However, the fact of the matter is that you cannot actually determine a woman’s fertility via her beauty. In which case, which does a ‘peak’ actually mean? Why are younger women actually preferable?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 11:43 PM
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I’m talking about confidence in general. Why wouldn’t you want someone outspoken? If someone is more confident in their body, they will be more adventurous and exciting in the bedroom as they aren’t focusing on covering themselves or about the lights being on. A lack of intimacy is a problem in relationships regardless of age over time, when both parties stop putting in the effort. I said life, not relationships. Older women do take relationships more seriously, and are less likely to cheat than…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 11:38 PM
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However, if someone is happier in a relationship they found in their 40s, then that is not settling at all, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:28 PM
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So, if we feel most alone when with someone we don’t want, then surely it’s worth waiting until someone right comes alone, instead of settling?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:19 PM
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That’s fine. :) If you don’t see the appeal whatsoever in a relationship, do you think you’re best qualified to say that women should just jump into a relationship in her ‘prime’ to not end up alone? Surely, if anything, you’d advocate for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:14 PM
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If you find a good one, it’s not about ‘dealing’ with them, and more about enjoying life with them in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:11 PM
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Or… OR… They are more outspoken, willing to do more in the bedroom, healthier platonic relationships, don’t take life too seriously, etc. I think you’re conflating confidence with stubbornness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:10 PM
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Aw that’s so unfair! Hate that shit. Was it because someone else took over the role?
/r/MensRights26/10/22 09:05 PM
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Hahaha, I doubt it too. 🤣 Just like pointing out how flawed it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:05 PM
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Just evaluate your perceptions on relationships, and women above the age of 24, and you’ll find someone. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:04 PM
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Depends if you put all your value into being in a relationship, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:01 PM
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Is finding a partner that’s less attractive, but have a happier relationship with, ‘going broke’?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:59 PM
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Fair enough. :) Yeah I just wanted to make sure that it wasn’t regarding something crazy, like forced abortions or forced birth etc. That’s exactly my opinions on the matter too. It’s so hard to prove. I think the best way around it would be paper abortions for men where abortions are legal. They should go hand in hand in my opinion. There really is no easy answer. It’s just an awful situation isn’t it?
/r/MensRights26/10/22 08:59 PM
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So is an infertile woman naturally just less attractive? Could you detect an infertile woman from across the street based on her beauty alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:54 PM
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That’s an in-depth answer. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:48 PM
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Well surely that’s highly subjective? Many people find confidence the most sexy thing someone can have, and typically that comes with age and experience. What about if someone wants to be child-free? Fertility wouldn’t come into it. What about women that had visible health issues during that time period, or were overweight? So, surely ‘prime’ is less about a time period, and more of a subjective situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:48 PM
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Why do you think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:46 PM
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What constitutes as her prime?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:46 PM
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I see. Thank you for the clarification. The lack of context or elaboration in the OG post led to confusion. :)
/r/MensRights26/10/22 08:41 PM
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Do you think they settled? Or they are now ready for a long term relationship and care less about factors such as social reputation, appearances etc with age?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:40 PM
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Was it regarding unfair pay? I’m trying to work out if it’s the situation I’d heard of before. 😊
/r/MensRights26/10/22 08:38 PM
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Oh wow! I didn’t know that, I didn’t keep up with updates on the whole situation. That’s really bad.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 07:53 PM
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Well, men are the key oppressors in Iran, and women the main victims of this situations. That’s how the history would be simplified, of course, because that’s the run down. In the study of the protests, it’ll discuss all parties.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 07:40 PM
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Many women are fighting the stigma in family court. The focus in the news is on men fighting, as men are the focus of the issue. The lack of credit doesn’t deter them. Alimony does affect both genders. Men just earn more on average than women. I’ve not seen anyone say that only men can abuse. I’ve also seen far more women having sympathy for male victims of abuse, and are trying to abolish the “man up” rhetoric as it’s damaging for both.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 07:39 PM
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Was it regarding pay? I believe I heard something about that, but may have it confused.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 07:36 PM
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Ah okay thank you. Yeah that’s a load of nonsense. I’ve seen it said mostly for male characters. For example, Daryl Dixon and Eddie Munson.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 07:22 PM
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Many men do not acknowledge women’s problems either, that’s the problem. These people in Iran are fighting for human rights. Why shouldn’t they fight for the rights for their mothers, wives and daughters?
/r/MensRights26/10/22 07:19 PM
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I must admit, I’m not familiar with the character itself, so it does go slightly over my head. I have seen this said about characters I’m more familiar with though. I seriously don’t understand the NEED to turn straight characters gay.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 07:13 PM
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I hate this sort of stuff. “But they’re queer coded” - the writer has confirmed they are straight. It’s not coded with jackshit 🤣
/r/MensRights26/10/22 07:05 PM
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Ah fair enough. I can only speak from my experiences and those around me in the U.K. :) I do think these things should be more easily accessible for child-free people. Would give people much more freedom and less stress.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 06:47 PM
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I completely understand what you are saying. However the procedure for women is much more difficult to get approval for. :)
/r/MensRights26/10/22 06:04 PM
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Thank you for clarifying. The statement was a little vague. I do agree. The problem is with proving either situation, for either gender. However if proven, then yes definitely the rapist, male or female, shouldn’t ever get to see the child in question.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 05:49 PM
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So this is in relation to paper abortions and child custody payments then?
/r/MensRights26/10/22 05:42 PM
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Can you please elaborate on what you mean by this?
/r/MensRights26/10/22 05:37 PM
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What situation are men facing in the West that would require people dying to try and change it?
/r/MensRights26/10/22 04:34 PM
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How are they fighting against men? Do you have examples? Many women are fighting for men, such as family courts, but the focus is on the men fighting as it’s a men’s rights issue.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 04:34 PM
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How do you know that women wouldn’t?
/r/MensRights26/10/22 04:23 PM
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The women are fighting for their rights. The men are fighting for women’s rights. By your very statement, men fighting for women’s rights is a stupid cause.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 04:22 PM
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“(Regarding compassion for the women in Iran) I have for men who die for stupid couse.” “I belive men should learn from women and only for themselfs” “Thats why men should women fight for their own” “I belive those men should learn and educate themself what their life would be in next 20 years”
/r/MensRights26/10/22 02:30 PM
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What are you even talking about? It’s not just to wear whatever she wants. They are fighting an oppressive regime, religious extremism, against social restrictions, the politicising of women’s bodies, and for more democratic freedoms. You cannot compare men in the west to the women in Iran. It’s outrageous to try imply that the restrictions on the women in Iran should remain the way they are just in case men are eventually told to man up one day.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 02:26 PM
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Schneerson, Guinan, Benjamin and Wong have already made strides in their respective fields. The rest are still working on their findings which would change the way we treat these illnesses. Medical discoveries are not made overnight. You asked for examples of women that are changing medicine. I provided them. Do you not think maybe they don’t get the credit and recognition they deserve, due to being women? It’s also a bit rich to say that these women are nobodies. What have you done that compare…
/r/MensRights26/10/22 02:23 PM
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For which study? The source above sites many different studies.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 12:36 PM
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How so?
/r/MensRights26/10/22 11:49 AM
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Do you think that women having to fight for proper medical care is them being treated as first class? Both parties should fight for human rights violations.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 11:49 AM
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That is literally what you said. Don’t try to backtrack. Since I have already said that I’m not saying he shouldn’t act on it when he finds someone, it most definitely would work for men too.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 11:48 AM
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Perhaps, buddy, it’s because of your attitude? If a woman heard or saw you saying that the protests in Iran is a stupid cause, that certainly wouldn’t help your chances of dating her. Just an example. Just because the advice hasn’t worked for you personally, doesn’t mean it wouldn’t work for others.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 10:34 AM
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Wow how is this man-hating in the slightest? And why is her weight even being brought up? It’s entirely irrelevant.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 09:48 AM
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It’s not a shaming tactic. I have literally said your method of thinking is shameful. 🤣 Men are not second class citizens in the West. Women’s rights are human rights. Women are humans. Put simply, maybe just because they are better people than you can fathom ever being.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 09:39 AM
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I’m not saying don’t act on it if it comes his way, simply don’t put that pressure on yourself to lose single status as quick as possible.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 09:37 AM
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It’s common sense? Is your thoughts and opinions not a product of your life experiences? Did you learn nothing from them? Rachel Schneerson- Schneerson and her colleague, John Robbins, developed a vaccine against Haemophilus influenzae type b (more commonly referred to as Hib). After its introduction in the 1980s, the number of cases of Hib has fallen by more than 99%. The same technology that Schneerson helped develop to combat Hib has since been used to create other vaccines, including those p…
/r/MensRights26/10/22 09:36 AM
1

Oh I haven’t seen that, I’ll be honest with you! I started with the revival with 9- probably why he is my favourite. That’s a darn shame! I didn’t realise that this has happened before. Hopefully bringing Tennant in is their way of apologising? 🤣
/r/MensRights26/10/22 09:24 AM
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Well, that’s a literal fact. If you believe so full heartedly in the justice system, then why are you here arguing about men convicted from false allegations? You have zero evidence of how I’d respond.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 09:20 AM
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Well, that’s a hell of a leap! Hope you limbered up appropriately beforehand, otherwise you’ll hurt yourself! 🤣 I do not know which part of my above comment is man hating, nor advocating for guilty until proven innocent. You did not have so much as a sprinkling of evidence before making that statement about me. No evidence for your statement A bold, negative assumption I assume based on my gender, since there’s zero other cause I can see for it here. Categorising an entire movement as hateful, a…
/r/MensRights26/10/22 09:18 AM
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Desperately searching for love will often lead to incompatible matches out of fear of being alone. If you’re happy being alone, you will naturally be more selective in who you allow into your life. Which is especially important when it’s your first relationship. Many do take that sweet naivety for granted as they know they will likely get away with it due to the other person being overwhelmed with the feeling of love. If you are unhappy being single, you will naturally stay in unhealthy and toxi…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 11:40 PM
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Let’s not through about important terms like gaslighting. Misusing them like this takes away their power. You haven’t actually explained how men are second class citizens in the West. Women are most certainly not treated as superior in our society. So you wouldn’t fight for your mother, partner or daughters on the off chance they may not fight for you in a gender reversal situation? Men and women should risk their lives to fight oppression and tyranny as this is the only way to gain human rights…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 11:36 PM
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All I can say is that the best ones come when you aren’t looking for them. Take time to love being single. Discover your interests, passions, and hobbies. Become comfortable with yourself and enjoy friendships. 😊 Eventually someone will stumble into your life and before you know it, you can’t imagine life without them. When do you do meet them, prioritise open and honest communication. There’s no need for the games that are used in modern dating. Be kind. Most importantly as I assume that this w…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 10:58 PM
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… You have zero evidence that they would not return the favour in this situation. How are men in our society second-class citizens? Women in the West literally did have to fight for equality. Their fight was never about superiority. How is demanding the right to vote, work, have fair pay to men for the same job, to not be discriminated against, a protest for superiority over men? Would you not fight for the human rights of your mother, sisters, aunts, nieces, grandmothers, cousins, partner, frie…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 10:52 PM
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Thank you. I’m so sorry too. I hope you’re healing now. ❤️ I am also a survivor of sexual violence, and it just made me so angry at the world as a whole for a long time. I hated it. Now I always try to avoid being that way as it literally does nothing to help anyone. I understand why both genders are angry at each other. It’s so so easy to do. Perspective and clarity is needed to get out of that so we can actually make change. ❤️
/r/MensRights25/10/22 09:06 PM
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I’ve had bad experiences myself with healthcare, so I did some research into why this is an experience that I share with my mother and grandmother, but not my father or brother. I didn’t realise it was so bad either. It’ll fix itself in time, it’s just due to how women were disregarded in medicine throughout history. Takes a lot of time to remedy that. No problem at all. Thank you for your insight too. I completely sympathise with both sides of this situation. It’s just anger being misdirected a…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 08:59 PM
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It’s most certainly unfair. That, I don’t doubt. Like I said, I wouldn’t bring a child into this world at all. However, if I may present some counter arguments to how it’s also cruel for baby girls? Hate does exist toward men by extremist feminists. However the incel community exists, which believes that they are entitled to women’s bodies as a god given right. Many massacres have been committed by incels for the incel movement. Only the other week, an incel confessed to planning a massacre of 3…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 08:43 PM
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I personally wouldn’t bring any child into this world. There are issues with both sides that a child of either gender will inevitably face. I wouldn’t say that it is any more cruel to bring a boy into the world than a girl. That’s a very broad ask. Could you please provide your reasoning for why you do believe that it is more cruel to bring a boy into the world than a girl?
/r/MensRights25/10/22 08:21 PM
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No, it’s not.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 08:16 PM
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Again, it still looks like she was saying that the advance was gross. Especially if she knows that you have a girlfriend. It looked very much like an out of the blue, adulterous advance toward someone I presume that hasn’t shown you any inclination of any romantic or sexual feelings in the past. That is gross to receive from anyone, even someone that looks like a Greek God. It won’t have been directed toward you personally, or have anything to do with your appearance.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 08:15 PM
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No, your opinions on this are entirely your own. Hence why this post received so much backlash. You cannot compare the treatment of women in Iran to men in the West. You simply can’t. I suggest you do more research into the topic, and seriously think about how you would actually respond if your female loved ones were having to go through what they are.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 06:43 PM
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I am saying there is evidence that she did possibly falsely accuse.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 06:25 PM
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I did not say it did count as evidence. That’s the problem with trying to prosecute rape and false rape allegations.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 06:25 PM
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Hahaha thank you 😊
/r/MensRights25/10/22 06:24 PM
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Okay 🤣
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:31 PM
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I was answering your question…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:31 PM
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No I definitely do not know what you mean. I do apologise. If you would like to rephrase, I’ll be able to respond better. 😊
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:30 PM
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What?
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:25 PM
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It’s a large portion of relationship breakups. You can literally ask any relationship therapist or counsellor, read any guide on having a happy and healthy relationship, or go from anyone else’s experiences of relationships. All will tell you that communication is the key.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:25 PM
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A stupid cause? Women are being beaten, raped and murdered. Their loved ones are being beaten, raped and murdered. That’s why they are fighting. That is not a stupid cause. How are men being treated as second class citizens now? Your attitude is actually quite shameful.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:23 PM
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Exactly this. 😊
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:22 PM
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Thank you. 😊
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:21 PM
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The way my partner and I have simplified our boundaries is ‘don’t do anything you wouldn’t do with the other person next to you’ and ‘don’t do something you wouldn’t be comfortable and happy with the other person doing’. 😊
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:20 PM
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Thank you very much! That’s incredibly kind. 😊
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:19 PM
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Well, there is evidence. Hence why it has made it to court.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:09 PM
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Women do initiate divorces in most cases. There are plenty of reasons for this. Communication is one of them. I don’t understand why you are arguing that a relationship would be happier without healthy, open communication?
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:08 PM
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What? Through admittance, being told by a third party, stumbling across evidence- such as bank transactions, condom wrappers, lipstick stains, text notifications.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:07 PM
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Nope. I’m in a happy relationship and have been for just under 4 years now. 😊
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:06 PM
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Yes? That would be against a boundary I have already put in place. If they have gone ahead and done that after having and agreeing to the conversation, then I class that as cheating and I will leave instantly. If they don’t agree with me on that boundary during the discussion early on, then I will leave and find someone that agrees. I am not willing to compromise, nor do I want to force someone to change.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:02 PM
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Okay, in that case: Clearly there is not a "universal understanding" of what cheating is and you're wrong to assume so. I don’t play that game . Respond then. :)
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:00 PM
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Well, yes? I thought you believed in innocent until proven guilty?
/r/MensRights25/10/22 04:59 PM
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It doesn’t matter. Not everyone acts purely for their own benefit. Some do what they need to do, because it’s the right thing. You cannot compare women in droves not speaking out for random individuals, to the oppression of women in Iran. Why should men as a whole not try to free women in Iran from the cruelty and oppression they are facing, because women in the west didn’t come out on mass for to support an individual. I don’t agree with religion as a whole, but there is a difference between re…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 04:59 PM
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No, people not having good communication in relationships leads to a high divorce and break up rate.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 04:19 PM
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Compromise doesn’t come into a conversation on boundaries. If the boundaries are reasonable, then it’s just a matter of respecting them, or leaving the relationship.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 04:18 PM
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… You are arguing my comment in regards to establishing boundaries by saying that ‘cheating is cheating’ and there doesn’t need to be a conversation on it.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 04:18 PM
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It is still limited. A grey area will lead to people getting hurt, and people hurting others without meaning to. There is nothing wrong with clear and precise boundaries being established in a relationship.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 04:12 PM
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What?
/r/MensRights25/10/22 04:11 PM
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No problem. 😊 Your needs, wants and boundaries are just as important as hers, don’t forget that!
/r/MensRights25/10/22 04:11 PM
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Then you need to clearly define your needs and boundaries, and leave them if they disrespect or don’t consistently meet them.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 04:10 PM
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Okay. Well there is nothing that can be done when it comes to someone cheating. I would say that a sit down conversation where both parties outline their boundaries is very important early on into the relationship. If they make repeated attempts to cross your smaller boundaries early on, then leave. They will break your bigger boundaries later on. It’s always better to seek someone that has the same relationship ideas and want something long term, if you do. If someone does not match with your i…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 04:09 PM
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For me, personally. Flirting is cheating. I’m not okay with subbing or the other party doing only fans. I’m okay with generic free pornography. For me, it’s whenever it crosses over into something more personal, such as paying the person money through Only Fans, or entertaining someone that is interested. It’s why our own personal ideas of what is cheating needs to be outlined really early on. If the other person completely disagrees and isn’t more than happy to respect the boundaries, then it’s…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 04:06 PM
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Shouldn’t we wait to see if she did it?
/r/MensRights25/10/22 04:03 PM
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That’s a very limited idea on cheating, and results in boundaries being crossed due to the grey area. In your definition, what about platonic relationships, sexual relationships, romantic relationships, emotional relationships, familial relationships. There are people that do not want their partners having friends of the opposite sex due to seeing it as cheating. Some people are completely against pornography and see it as cheating. Some people are okay with generic pornography, but aren’t okay …
/r/MensRights25/10/22 04:03 PM
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Some people class being bought drinks or buying drinks as cheating, others not. Some other examples: Flirting Only Fans Pornography Entertaining someone that is interested People have different classifications for what they consider as cheating.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 03:54 PM
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On relationships with women. An insight into the other side may help him.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 03:53 PM
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Also, it sounds like you deserve better friends.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 03:18 PM
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Your friend was likely saying ‘gross’ to what she thought was an unwanted ‘cheeky’ advance on her when you have a girlfriend.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 03:17 PM
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It depends on what you mean by deliberate constraint around men. If this is reasonable, such as no flirting, then you just have to find the right person and establish your personal definitions of cheating right from the start.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 03:15 PM
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Okay, but you cannot argue there is no punishment when evidence of punishment is on this very post. The past is the past. The problem is that rape and false rape allegations are notoriously hard to prove. That’s why there are so few convictions of rape, and so few cases of proven false allegations. You can’t lessen the evidence needed for either situation to result in more convictions, because that’s when even more innocent people suffer.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 03:13 PM
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How do you know these women would not do the same for men? You don’t. Are you really equating the situation for modern day men, with the brutality and oppression that women are facing in Iran? What do men go through today in the West that is in any way comparable to what these women are going through, or can justify leaving these women to their fate to prevent it happening there? What is happening in Iran is a fight against an oppressive regime. These men are fighting with their female loved one…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 02:58 PM
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But there is punishment. We are having this conversation on a link to an article of an active court case of someone accused of false allegations.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 02:47 PM
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I understand, I’m sorry. It just made me think of a baby in a full suit, with a moustache, smoking a cigar and asking how asked the whiskey is. 🤣
/r/MensRights25/10/22 01:23 PM
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You still shouldn’t be backhanded by your boss. That is still assault. But it is valuable. Fields like science, medicine, politics, history, psychology, IT, education, literature, culture, social services, law- all benefit from having a diverse set of minds behind them. Limiting these career fields to only one half of the population is a detriment to them, and will keep them from progressing. I have already provided an example on why women being instrumental in medicine is a good thing. You have…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 01:05 PM
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What job do you have where not doing your job results in a backhand? You do realise violence is against the law, right? If you are being slapped at work, you need to report that and get a different job. Policemen are awarded the power to uphold the law. That is a power that they have. I still don’t see how this relates to politics, medicine, science or IT, btw. I’ve said that different life experiences result in different mindsets, which are advantageous to the fields mentioned above and in my p…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 12:47 PM
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Completely agree.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 12:39 PM
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No, I am saying that as rape is very hard to prove, a lack of a guilty verdict should never resort in a punishment for the accuser. This will literally cause actual victims of rape to be punished for a lack of evidence.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 12:34 PM
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How is a backhand a consequence to doing your job? Do you get frequently backhanded at work? This whole backhand argument makes zero sense, and I feel like your argument is slipping as you didn’t expect to be called out on it. I’m sorry, do men walk straight into positions of power from birth? Do men not have to go for promotions, just walk into the bosses office, sit at his chair and say I’m your boss now? How are women best at enforcing power if they themselves have none due to fear of a backh…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 12:15 PM
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I used to love DW but it just became a load of PC nonsense unfortunately. Jodie was far from the best, but not terrible. It was the absolutely dreadful scripts that did her no justice. I do hope that Tennant coming back for a bit signals a change back to the original style and attitude the show had, ready for the next fella. Also possibly controversial, but 9 was definitely the best. 🤭
/r/MensRights25/10/22 11:56 AM
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Discussing history, literature and modernity. However, if you don’t want to continue the conversation, that’s absolutely fine.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 11:44 AM
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🤣
/r/MensRights25/10/22 11:38 AM
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No. You should just swallow your pride and stop talking down on the unbelievable selflessness that these men are demonstrating. It’s shameful. You’re promoting leaving women being beaten, raped and murdered for not wearing an item of clothing.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 11:06 AM
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Did I say that? No. However rape is notoriously hard to prove, and what you’re suggesting will penalise victims of rape for simply not having enough evidence.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 10:53 AM
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Because it is a women’s rights movement. No one is disregarding the brave and selfless acts of the men fighting on behalf of the women. However as this is a women’s rights issue, the focus will always be on women.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 10:53 AM
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Of course it was Green Party 🤣 Thank you, I’ll certainly have a look into that as I wasn’t correctly informed. Yes. You have just phrased that beautifully. That is exactly the problem. Both sides are just winding each other up further and further and attitudes are becoming more and more extreme.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 10:51 AM
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Women are more than aware that men pose a danger to them at all times. This is a conscious state of awareness that women have. Certainly doesn’t help when people like yourself seem to have a weird fascination with the idea of backhanding them. Did I mention fishermen, sailers, Navy? No, I didn’t. You seem to forget the fact that women were not allowed to partake in the building of society, and when they attempted, were certainly not taken seriously. However, achievement by women in fields such a…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 10:48 AM
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There were a lot of outraged responses to Sarah’s case. It seemed to really strike a cord with many that have gone through sexual violence. Like I said, just from what I saw, that’s my understanding of the suggestion of a curfew.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 10:37 AM
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I don’t agree with this. Not being convicted of the crime does not mean that a crime did not take place. Especially with something so hard to prove as rape.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 10:35 AM
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I do believe the overall statistics for rape and false rape allegations are much higher than what we know, because of this very reason. I don’t think statements such as “vast majority of rape allegations in the U.K. are false” helps anyone when it is so unbelievably unfounded. I do agree with everything you have said though, it’s very well put. The problem is quite a few seem to think they either need to witch hunt the accuser in case it’s false, or the accused in case it’s true.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 10:34 AM
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I never said child abuse isn’t a bad thing. You said “slightly worse than most people”, most people do not commit awful crimes such as rape and child abuse. I have read his poetry. Studied it in fact. :) All I have said is that history should be taught accurately. Why is that an issue for you? We have the opportunity now, through a modern lens, to choose who we immortalise and celebrate. I have not once said that Neruda’s poetry should not be studied, or have his anthologies in libraries or stor…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 10:30 AM
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Which politician said this? I’m not aware it was said. I only saw the phrase being said by the every day person that was outraged over the situation. If someone in a position of power said it in seriousness, then that is disgusting behaviour.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 10:27 AM
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Women are dying too. That’s literally what started the protests.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 10:45 PM
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Men are dying for rights for their mothers, aunts, grandmothers, sisters, girlfriends, wives, friends? It’s a woman’s rights issue, that’s why there is a focus on women.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 10:44 PM
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Then why did you make the statement that more men than women have been killed if you don’t know either way?
/r/MensRights24/10/22 10:38 PM
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These men are dying as a part of the protests, in support of the cause.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 10:37 PM
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Do you even know why the protests are happening in Iran?
/r/MensRights24/10/22 10:32 PM
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“No baby men” 🤣 sorry this really got me.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 10:29 PM
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The curfew, as far as I saw, was a snippy response to the flood of people (mostly men) that blamed Sarah for what happened to her on the grounds of her being alone at night. It was very much “if women cannot go outside of their homes at dark because of men, then men are the problem” so there should be a curfew. Wasn’t something seriously suggested, just a response to that sort of ignorance.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 09:42 PM
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You have no solid evidence to back that up.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 09:39 PM
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Slightly worse? He raped a woman. Why does his poetry deserve honouring? Why does anything this man has created deserve honouring? Raping someone does not constitute as a ‘dark side’. It makes you a monster. They wanted to name an airport in honour of a monster.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 08:28 PM
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I don’t think it’s great that people in this comment section put poetry above the rape of a woman. His poetry doesn’t take away from the rape he committed. Rape is not justifiable if someone is good at imagery or rhyme.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 07:29 PM
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A rapists poetry.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 06:35 PM
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The quote above is entirely correct.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 05:47 PM
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They wanted to make an airport after him. That’s why there was a kick off. That is celebrating a rapist.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 05:40 PM
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Calling a rapist a rapist is not gossip. It’s stating an important fact. Do you know what caused the outrage and ‘cancelling’ in the first place? They were going to make their international airport after him. What message does that send? We can choose who we herald as heroes in our society. I am simply saying that Neruda is a rapist, and does not deserve to be considered an idol, hero or genius after what he did. We can afford to be honest and transparent in history and academia.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 05:07 PM
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If it doesn’t matter because he is dead, then why are you defending him so hard? Why does my judgement of him matter? He just wrote poetry that people like. History should only be taught accurately. When studying literature, who the author is and the life experiences they had, come into discussion naturally. For example, his poem “POEM XV” can be interpreted extremely differently when you know he is a rapist: “I like for you to be still: it is as though you were absent, distant and full of sorro…
/r/MensRights24/10/22 04:04 PM
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Passion, in many cases, can pay the bills. People attending further education of the sake of it, is the problem. People pursuing education to do something that they are passionate about, is not.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 03:35 PM
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It’s not about pursuing justice, it’s about making sure that history is taught accurately, so masses aren’t celebrating a man for his poetic prowess, without knowing that he was a monster.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 03:33 PM
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You don’t care that he raped a woman?
/r/MensRights24/10/22 02:01 PM
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His work doesn’t take away from what he did, either.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 02:01 PM
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If I hurt someone like that, damn right I would expect to be remembered from it. It’s not a judgment scrutiny, it’s just judging a rapist. It’s not hard to not rape someone. I am not saying to outlaw his poetry. I am saying that when it is being discussed, praised and taught, history should be taught accurately. Which is that the man that wrote that poetry, is a rapist.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 02:00 PM
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Oh my god. You may so intolerable that you are at risk of a backhand at any minute, but most aren’t. I do know what innate means, thank you for checking in though. I won’t be derailing this conversation into semantics, before you attempt that. Women do experience life differently from men. I’m not saying that every woman has the same experience, but it does differ from men. Thus, having women established in these fields will change them.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 01:58 PM
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Why would you want a rapists poetry insight into the human condition? The point of it is to allow people to be fully informed when deciding where to allocate their time and attention. It is also about deciding where his place now is in literature. Ignoring his rape of a woman and continuing to celebrate him sends a clear and distinct message toward victims of rape and sexual assault.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 08:22 AM
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Women are raised differently and are treated differently. They have innately different life experiences. Women being in the fields I mentioned prior, and many more will revolutionise them over time as they have a different lived experience, and often a different mindset and method of thinking as a result. It’s not about superiority. As I have already said, if roles were reversed then it would be men that I am talking about. It’s not a logical conclusion that you are drawing. You are just choosin…
/r/MensRights24/10/22 08:20 AM
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You didn’t answer my prior questions. It’s not about smearing dead men. It’s about highlighting the fact a widely celebrated man is a self confessed rapist. Does he deserve the legacy he has received, just because he can write nice poetry? Does his nice poetry excuse what he did? Do you think his poetry provided any source of comfort to the woman he assaulted? History should only be taught and told accurately. Demanding that is not cancel culture. People should know who it is that they are readi…
/r/MensRights24/10/22 12:46 AM
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His excellent literature does not take away from his crime. If someone harmed someone you care about in the way he did, would you wish for them to be remembered fondly around the world for their poetry? Would you excuse what they did to your loved one because of their writing skills?
/r/MensRights24/10/22 12:23 AM
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“Pick me” women refers to those that will go out of their way and lie to men about her hobbies and interests so they align with those more traditionally masculine, while simultaneously shaming other women for liking things that are more feminine. Eg: “I could never wear that much makeup, it’s so embarrassing. Like what are you hiding? This is why I’m friends with guys. They don’t like drama. Guys just want to play video games with me. 😊” If there’s a man that does these things in the reverse, th…
/r/MensRights23/10/22 11:26 PM
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I wouldn’t bother with the ring. If you don’t want to date, or even be pursued by women, the best thing you can do is stand your ground. Your consent is as important as theirs. Practicing saying no is always a good thing. You deserve to live your life without lies, and peace without deceit.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 11:16 PM
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Abortions should be a legal right for women. Paper abortions should be a legal right for men. Sex should never, ever be a punishment for either side. If the government wants better supported single mothers, then they should step up instead of punishing the common man.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 11:13 PM
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I never said women are superior. Opening up society to an entire half of the population, which in this case is women, will change things. You’re crazy if you think otherwise. If roles were reversed, then it would be men that are making the difference. You’re the one that is mentioning a superiority between the sexes here. Does it exist, or doesn’t it? What is your fascination with backhanding women?
/r/MensRights23/10/22 11:10 PM
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“Neruda wrote about his rape of a cleaning woman in his hotel room in 1930, in what is now Sri Lanka. "I decided to go all the way. I got a strong grip on her wrist. ... The encounter was of a man with a statue," Neruda wrote in his memoir, published in 1974, a year after his death from cancer. "She was right to despise me."
/r/MensRights23/10/22 10:53 PM
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Absolutely disgusting.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 06:43 PM
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Hey. I’m really sorry to hear what you have gone through. Yes this was an abusive relationship, and it’s completely up to you if you want to keep someone in your life or not. ❤️ Hope you’re okay.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 06:39 PM
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Firstly, youth is one thing. It’s another to deliberately aim for the youngest women you can legally, as a grown man in his 30s. That is a clear attempt to get the most naive and gullible women as possible. “With a 19 year old, they might have had one guy from high school, just broke up. She’s fresh and I can fucking put my imprint on her.” - A direct quote on why he prefers young women instead of someone closer to his age. Of course the average man is in a relationship, married, or will be in h…
/r/MensRights23/10/22 05:06 PM
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What have I said that’s wrong there?
/r/MensRights23/10/22 01:14 PM
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I’m not saying it in good faith. I’m just saying that that is the mentality over there too.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 01:14 PM
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Which sub are you referring to?
/r/MensRights23/10/22 01:12 PM
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The problem is that’s exactly what the Feminist side says too.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 01:11 PM
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I’ll check the one you mentioned there, thank you. 😊
/r/MensRights23/10/22 11:07 AM
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I don’t think there is anything left for Feminism as a movement to really do in the U.K. at least. The issues that still exist will rectify in time. I do believe something that incorporates MRA and Feminism would be better, that has clear set goals as feminism once did. Everything being so open ended leaves a lot of room for bigots to step into.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 11:07 AM
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Thank you, Queen fact bot. 🤣 I’ll try be more precise in the future.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 11:04 AM
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I’m really sorry. That’s absolutely disgusting behaviour from her. I hope that you do go to the police if it is something you’re feeling up to doing- no judgement if not, and this entire situation resolves itself with no problems. She may have been on hormonal birth control, if it eases your mind at all. That way she has very little risk of pregnancy, while you believe there is so you’ll send the cash.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 11:03 AM
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Oh yeah, it’s definite alarm bells. I do think honestly that it’s because I am interacting with this subreddit that got me banned, as others on the VS post were commenting similar to me. It’s all very silly, to be honest. I’ll be checking the subreddits mentioned a few comments above this for a better, less moderated insight into feminism as a movement. :)
/r/MensRights23/10/22 11:01 AM
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No that’s very true! It is shocking from the Feminism side, that is a shame. I started observing both this MRA sub and the top Feminism subreddit so I can see which i closer align with, and to broaden my horizons on men’s issues, and men’s problems with feminism. I’ll have to use a different Feminism sub as that one looks so heavily controlled that it doesn’t give a fair representation to the movement as a whole.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 10:58 AM
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I would defend MRA too. Overgeneralisation is wrong when done by either side. It’s hypocritical to complain about it from one, when doing it yourself.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 10:56 AM
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Relationship longevity is on the decline, you’re right. Nowadays society is so complicated and stressful. Social Media also a very negative thing to have happened to relationships. Being unfaithful is easier than ever before.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 10:55 AM
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Well, Andrew Tate has already outlined his age preferences. He goes for very young women as they are easier to dazzle and manipulate. Average men with average bodies and average incomes are the men that have long term partners and are usually married. It’s men like Tate that hop from naive woman to naive woman. I do think Tate is a symptom of a societal issue, but in my opinion, the societal issue is how ready young boys and men are to embrace such toxicity to try and reclaim some of the power t…
/r/MensRights23/10/22 10:53 AM
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“Because a backhand would solve the issue with those bitches” Do you really think this nonsense is worthy of a response? I’ll give you one despite it. Women being in positions of power will always be disruptive. It’s got you all up in a twist at the very least, obviously. While of course these women will still have to follow the rules of the job and society, they will bring different thoughts, opinions and theories to the table, which is exactly what society needs to progress. If you truly belie…
/r/MensRights23/10/22 10:50 AM
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I’m just saying that some terms do have meanings that make sense, even of you don’t like them or the movement as a whole.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 10:20 AM
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I am not a feminist, for starters. I certainly do not tolerate the “Kill All Men” nonsense either and would argue against that till I’m blue in the face should I ever actually see anyone say it. That is quite literally the quote from the ‘movement’s website. That is what the quote means. I’m not bullshitting you, I swear. Like I said, it just refers to the way that women will have an impact on society as things very slowly become more equal, and will have a key role in shaping the future alongsi…
/r/MensRights23/10/22 01:13 AM
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Agreed that we are derailing this one. 🤣 I’m happy to continue this in our other conversation.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 12:53 AM
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There was nothing intelligent about your prior response. It was hatred, dressed up in an academic voice. That’s all that was. There is no argument against it because it’s so rooted in disgusting bigotry that it’s not even worth attempting to break down. I’ve read some dodgy shit on this sub, but this really takes the cake. Like I said, you are letting so many good men on this subreddit down. You, and men like you, are the reason that this movement is not taken seriously and so many of its causes…
/r/MensRights23/10/22 12:52 AM
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How can Tate be empowering for men if he adds to the shame and pressure men face? He has said plenty of misogynistic things regarding women, too.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 12:34 AM
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I don’t see how. Attempting to take male ideology into the past will do nothing but isolate men. I’ve also seen Tate shame ‘beta’, ‘weak’ and nerdy men. That does nothing to empower.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 12:30 AM
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If I see any say it, bet your ass I will! I don’t belong to either side of this. If something in between exists, I’m that. I don’t approve of overgeneralisation in general for either side.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 12:25 AM
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… Wow. Just wow. I suppose I’ll start with the most glaringly worrying part of this train wreck. There’s nothing a backhand won’t solve? Dude, what the hell is wrong with you. Are you that emotionally stunted that you think that this is an appropriate thing to say, never mind think? That’s so fucked and the very reason why many people disregard MRA instantly. You are doing such an injustice to so many men in this subreddit. Actually disgusting. I don’t even know what to say back to this absolute…
/r/MensRights23/10/22 12:23 AM
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I do think some things can be taken out of context. However, I do think his statements since his removal from social media are an attempt to cover his own back. He’s doing some serious backtracking to turn his previous misogyny into some false attempt to empower men.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 12:08 AM
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I think you are making the very same vast overgeneralisation that you hate in feminism.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 12:07 AM
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100% agree with you.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 11:41 PM
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Well, I do hope that he doesn’t speak for the overall male perspective given the things that he has said.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 11:13 PM
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Thank you for the clarification. I’ve only ever seen it referred to in regards to looks before. 😊 My own personal hypothesis is the willingness to ‘date down’ changes when children or future desire for children is involved. What do you think?
/r/MensRights22/10/22 11:12 PM
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Depends on in what way. Date down tends to refer to looks, as far as I understand and have seen it used. Who looks after the kids tends to be based on financial and career reasons.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 10:57 PM
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You and I are having two separate conversations. Would you rather us move this one over to the other so we don’t derail this post?
/r/MensRights22/10/22 10:54 PM
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But I disagree with you. Why do I have to agree to something I disagree with so you refer to women with the same level of respect that you refer to men?
/r/MensRights22/10/22 10:48 PM
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Okay what are you even on about? I am not a feminist, nor do I want to be. How am I a monster? Are you feeling okay? I think you’re just looking for a reason to be angry and that isn’t healthy.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 10:39 PM
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Dude, just say women. It’s not hard, I promise. Why is it men and females to you?
/r/MensRights22/10/22 10:12 PM
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Ah okay. Thank you for letting me know. It’s all very silly. I think it’ll be for the post about VS and allowing men in the stores. 🤣
/r/MensRights22/10/22 10:02 PM
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His core audience is men, and his core talking point is women. It affects both.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 10:01 PM
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Ah okay thank you. Does that apply to all comments or just a select few? Thanks for letting me know! It’s probably because I have commented on here.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 09:57 PM
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Where can I find out this info? My comments look normal to me. 😊
/r/MensRights22/10/22 09:41 PM
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All MRA ones like these, definitely. 🤣 Some on here are lovely tbf.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 09:39 PM
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I think so. I don’t identify with feminism, so it’s ironic. What do you mean by censor? I’ve had someone else mention this but I’m newish to Reddit. 😊
/r/MensRights22/10/22 09:31 PM
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“Females”- just say women. Andrew Tate literally spends most of his life making comments about women, so yes, women are allowed an opinion. Women are allowed an opinion on whatever the hell they want, regardless of whether or not it applies to them. Tone down your misogyny.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 09:17 PM
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I feel you there, don’t worry. 🤣
/r/MensRights22/10/22 09:15 PM
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Andrew Tate’s comments don’t just apply to feminism, but women as a whole. He’s a misogynistic asshole
/r/MensRights22/10/22 09:14 PM
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I know. That’s why I said educated, not intelligent. I think that’s a vast over generalisation. Even if you believe that’s the mindset of women at college, it shouldn’t change your views on women that have left college.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 08:44 PM
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No problem. :)
/r/MensRights22/10/22 08:07 PM
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I know… You do realise that you are agreeing with me right? I’m saying it’s ridiculous to judge college educated women in case they are feminist.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 08:05 PM
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Okay, sure. Every woman that’s engaged in higher education. That’s still an astronomical number to characterise like that.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 07:31 PM
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Thank you. I’m not sure why either. Hope you’re well, have a lovely evening.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 07:30 PM
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The religion is the most toxic influence on modern society. You cannot justify ridiculous views on Adam and Eve it is a work of fiction and a tool to oppress women.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 07:29 PM
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So, would you not want to be with a woman if she uses social media? That’s exposure to ideas. Also, I thought the problem is with man-hating feminists. Many people who identify with feminism don’t even know such bigots exist within it, and still view it through the lens of the past feminist movement. Perhaps we should evaluate people based on their individual views on matters and if they align with yours, instead of mis-characterising a massive group of people based on a few bigots? Should peopl…
/r/MensRights22/10/22 07:10 PM
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That I do agree with. I hated university because of the attitudes from everyone and endless pressure to be socially perfect. From what I’ve seen, once people are out of higher education they grow up and realise that it’s a load of nonsense. That’s also another reason why I think the other comment is unfair. I also don’t think it’s fair to characterise an entire half of the population as sexist and hateful, simply because they want to better themselves.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 07:06 PM
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It’s quite literally fiction. If your entire argument relies on the word from your imaginary friend, then you need to seriously look inward.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 07:03 PM
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Let’s not bring fairy tales into a serious conversation.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 06:50 PM
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What greed?
/r/MensRights22/10/22 06:47 PM
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And what is “a degree in man hating”? I don’t think it’s reasonable to purposefully not want an educated woman simply in case she disagrees with your views on issues and society. I also think it’s unreasonable to characterise every college educated woman as a man-hater, when I’m sure you hate when the few feminists say it’s all men, or even most men.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 06:46 PM
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What do you mean by college education? Why is that an issue?
/r/MensRights22/10/22 06:28 PM
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Well girls are entering fields more typically male exclusive, and we are seeing change there. We aren’t seeing much change from the male side of things, so that is where we should prioritise the change. We are already encouraging young girls to pursue whatever it is that they want to do, regardless of gender roles. Young boys aren’t encouraged in the same way and deserve to be told that they can be whatever they want to be when they grow up.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 06:07 PM
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He’s a moron.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 03:57 PM
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“Future is Female” is a statement on how women being allowed into fields such as politics, science, medicine, education, will shape society in a way never seen before. Previously, decisions were predominately made by only one half of the population. Including the other half of the population will of course change things. I don’t know if you have actually looked into “The Future is Female”, but I don’t see a single thing wrong with this. Do you? “We want girls to grow up and be brave instead of p…
/r/MensRights22/10/22 03:57 PM
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Women are entering fields such as policing, or fire. Coal mine is a very outdated example. Fishing and oil rig is a trade handed down through generations. You have on the flip side: cleaners, care work, child care, secretaries and receptionists, social workers, librarians. Why should women do these jobs if men “refuse” to do them? Some fields are just more naturally leaning toward men, and some toward women. Can’t force either side into a field they don’t want to, just to bring up the numbers.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 03:51 PM
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While I can’t argue all too much about the US, I do admit, there is a difference in gender staffing in these fields in the U.K. too, just less significant. I think this does show that private/public education etc is more a factor that widens the gap, but doesn’t create it. I do think that the gap exists due to women choosing more “empathetic” roles, in comparison to men. I do wonder and hope that this will change to become more even if young boys receive a healthier upbringing.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 11:42 AM
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I disagree. While I agree that some women are stuck in the past, the majority of those that support and agree with Tate on the gender issues he discussed are male. While some asshole women exist, the main component of Tate supporters aren’t them. There was a spat of women breaking up with their boyfriends due to the support of Tate and not have the tolerance to deal with the misogyny. Why should women make the effort to “date down”? Both parties should date who they want to, regardless of societ…
/r/MensRights22/10/22 11:36 AM
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I agree. I don’t think it benefited men or women.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 11:08 AM
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I’m sorry, did you mean this comment for me? I didn’t mention rape culture so I’m a little confused.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 11:07 AM
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I haven’t checked those, thank you! I’ll have a read through the ones you have mentioned as I may change my original stance on it, to be fair. I have just gone for the most popular MRA sub, and the most popular Feminist sub as I thought that would be a far way to compare and contrast. Yes, that I have seen- the reactionary stuff. They are argued against heavily in the comments, at least. So at least on the sub I have seen, at least it gets called out. I am quite new to this sub so I didn’t see t…
/r/MensRights22/10/22 11:06 AM
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Do you have a study regarding the first point you made? I would like to read it so I can be better clued up on the topic, as I am ‘arguing’ from opinion only here. Like I said, if there is a gender based discrimination present in the workplace that goes unchecked, then what I’m saying does not count. I hope situations change for the men in the fields you mentioned. Have you seen the research into the 4 day work week? If something like that was implemented, that would massively benefit men in har…
/r/MensRights22/10/22 11:01 AM
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Oh yeah I completely agree. Problem is, without creating unfair advantages to one gender, is there a good way to combat the difference in numbers? I completely disagree with women only scholarships and funding, and would disagree with it if it occurred the other way around. Perhaps raising young boys without negative responses to their emotions may result in men studying more fields like medicine and psychology? Without forcing or pressuring either gender to enter these fields, or creating unfai…
/r/MensRights22/10/22 10:58 AM
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Of course the stat is false. They’re all predictions. While the methodology may be sound, it is just a prediction that many people deem the truth. That goes for campaigners for feminism and MRA. The most sexist thing I’ve seen on the feminist subreddit was a recent post saying men should be discouraged from entering stores like Victoria Secret, after 3 individual men were very inappropriate to her on her latest visit. The comments all disagreed with her. On the MRA subreddit, however. I have see…
/r/MensRights22/10/22 10:53 AM
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The problem with rape and false rape allegations is that we will never truly know the true statistics. As both things are notoriously hard to prove, we cannot rely on guilty verdicts. We can attempt to get an estimate through survey type exploration, but how many people will admit to either crime? Everywhere you look there is a different statistic to both problems. People on both sides don’t seem to realise that the statistic they have read is incredibly flawed unless based on absolute evidence.…
/r/MensRights22/10/22 01:33 AM
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Andrew Tate took in young, confused and impressionable boys and men, convinced them that he is the ultimate idol they should look up to, and then roped them into a pyramid scheme scam. The mindset of Andrew Tate toward women is one of the past. Listening to him will only increase the number of lonely men as women no longer stick around for that kind of nonsense. The article above explained that women’s role in society has been shifted astronomically, and women can choose independence or a more t…
/r/MensRights22/10/22 01:26 AM
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Surely, like with the number of women in STEM today, this is just the case of men not wanting those jobs? We can’t force men to study Psychology, same as we can’t force women to study Physics, just for the sake of keeping numbers even. As long as equal opportunities do in fact truly exist, and sexist behaviour is forbidden from the workplace, then it’s just a matter of allowing people to study what they are passionate about.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 01:14 AM
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It’s not his body. It’s hers. The final say on what happens is hers alone, and should remain that way. This is not a men’s rights issue. Just a god-awful situation you are attempting to turn political.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 12:52 AM
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Just try to be subtle, if you can. Keep your chin up. I hope you can get justice.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 08:08 PM
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I know about a lack of evidence, these things are awful to try and prove, but it may be worth going to the police with the evidence you do have, such as the text screenshots etc. They’ll call her in to look into it either way. There may be evidence on her phone against her. Even if it doesn’t get anywhere, it will mean if she does this to another lad, your accusation will already be on record for him. Again, I am so, so sorry. You didn’t deserve this one bit. What I can say though is it does get…
/r/MensRights21/10/22 07:36 PM
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Thank you very much, that’s really kind. 😊 I’ve had plenty of good and bad conversations on here. They’ve either been enlightening, or choc-full of attempts to insult my intelligence or sex. Got to take the good with the bad with any movement to get to grips of what they stand for.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 05:50 PM
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Me? If so, thank you. 😊 It’s alright, I think my overall opinions on the matter may have been misunderstood. I am completely pro-choice, and I support both abortions and ‘paper abortions’ entirely.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 05:12 PM
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Oh yeah, they’re awful. It’s no wonder that people have such messed up perceptions on how they ‘should’ look. People are killing themselves trying to achieve a beauty standard that just does not exist.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 04:22 PM
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Hey, I’m so sorry this happened to you. That’s absolutely disgusting. Your consent is just as important as hers, and she ignored it. Are you okay?
/r/MensRights21/10/22 12:14 PM
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I don’t know what women you have talked to, but I’m sorry if that is the attitude you have received. However if that was true, no one would be in a relationship.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 12:10 PM
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Wait till they hear that Instagram models still have a belly and rolls when they relax and slouch. Social media is toxic 🤦🏻‍♀️
/r/MensRights21/10/22 12:08 PM
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For all crimes?
/r/MensRights21/10/22 12:06 PM
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It’s still not segregation or oppression. This issue may affect black men disproportionately, but this still affects all groups.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 11:52 AM
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I completely agree. Parental rights need to be reformed.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 11:03 PM
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I completely agree. Definitely. Shouldn’t have a decision in the abortion itself, but a ‘paper abortion’ would be a very fair equivalent for men.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 10:48 PM
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I’m sorry, I am not very well versed in US law. However, you most cannot compare racial segregation to men in abortion laws. At all. Don’t be bigoted. Just for clarification, do you believe that a man should be able to have a deciding say in an abortion?
/r/MensRights20/10/22 09:14 PM
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You edited your comment to establish that it was a joke. When I commented, you had not edited this yet. Perhaps you did so because you realised how bullshit it sounded. If you think the “kill all men” bollocks was shared by the entirety of the movement, then you are deluded. Do you share the exact same thoughts and opinions of every single person in this group? No, of course not. You get good and bad, mental and sane people in every single movement and to make sweeping judgements on the statemen…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 08:56 PM
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Ah, so you’ve heard one person say it, so comments about reinstating the glass ceiling, and how a woman should be held to a harsher degree of accountability than men, is justified? You do see how that is still on you, right?
/r/MensRights20/10/22 08:34 PM
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I’m very sorry to hear that. Bless you though for helping raise your niece and nephews. It depends on how vast and popular the personal bias is. In both ways. How many will see that article title and dismiss it on the grounds of apparent misandry, and how many will condemn men for a natural feeling? In both cases, hopefully not many. Let’s hope this is a case of ignorant people shouting the loudest.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 08:25 PM
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I have never seen a feminist say that? Are you really going to sit here and say that you deem a woman lying is worse than man, and blame that opinion on women? No. You need to self reflect on your own personal bias.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 08:22 PM
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100%. The pressure on parents, in part due to articles like this, certainly doesn’t help. I can’t even imagine the stress of having to care for a child. The only positive to this article is it highlights that stress in of itself during early stages of parenthood aren’t a female only issue.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 07:36 PM
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I whole heartedly agree that men should be able to opt out of fatherhood, including child support payments. 100%. That would be a fair male equivalent of abortion. When it comes to the matter itself, if the unwanted pregnancy occurs in a relationship, it is decent to consult the male partner for his opinion. At the end of the day though, it’s the women’s decision to abort, and a man’s decision to stay around after or not.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 07:31 PM
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Honestly, anything can be weaponised. I personally did not read the headline, nor text body, as a slander of men. If anything, it just highlights that men need help for stress during this time too, and take on a lot of the financial brunt. I don’t believe it would be phrased any differently if this was found about mothers, as evidenced by the headlines above, I think it’s simply the case of Daily Mail wanting to ensure people read the article. Not a sexist issue.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 06:48 PM
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I agree. I think the opinion in the post above is a load of crap. The responsibility of pregnancy itself is on both- it takes two to tango. But abortion is a female issue and a woman’s decision alone.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 06:10 PM
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Haha thank you. No I suppose not, seems to be falling on deaf ears. I’m not even denying that there is often a double standard. However this article was simply not a case of that.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 05:37 PM
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Boris was the spokesperson that told the public they could not be there during their loved ones private moment. Meanwhile, throwing parties- which he denied time and time again until he had no other choice but to admit it. He ignored and covered up sexual allegations against a MP. Boris also lied frequently. “I built more than 100,000 affordable homes in London in my time as mayor" According to data from the Greater London Authority, 94,001 affordable London homes were built between 2008 and 201…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 05:10 PM
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It isn’t c
/r/MensRights20/10/22 04:27 PM
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Oh, because Boris did a great job and will be remembered fondly? How does a penis better qualify someone in politics?
/r/MensRights20/10/22 04:24 PM
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Are you a danger to society, then? “It’s the ultimate blue balls for a guy…. I don’t think you can understand how difficult that is to have that level of stress inside you… Stress can override rational thinking FYI. So in a very literal sense he was literally not able to think clearly.” Are you a danger to women if you’re struggling with “blue balls”? Also, just so anyone reading this knows: “The term “blue balls” is slang for epididymal hypertension, which is thought to occur when you get sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:34 PM
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This is not a case of double standards. There isn’t even anything misandrist with the title, nor would the title be misogynistic if the genders were reversed. Women and mothers get these types of headlines too. “Mothers' screen time is 'damaging for toddlers' development'” https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10359929/amp/Mothers-screen-time-damaging-toddlers-development.html “Children born from obese pregnant women are TWICE as likely to suffer from ADHD” https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 11:02 AM
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The Daily Mail is shit, I give you that. However there is nothing misandrist about the body of the article itself. “Nonetheless, men may be reluctant to seek help or express their needs during this time and may feel excluded from the maternal focus of perinatal services. 'Explicit effort may be required to engage fathers in discussions about the types of support they may need to manage stress and wellbeing and help prevent future difficulties for their children at what might be a sensitive stage…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 10:49 AM
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I did! 🤣 You should have a read over the link when you can. If it continues to not with for you, just let me know and I can send it again.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 07:50 AM
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I’m interested to hear what you have to say.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 07:49 AM
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“Research bears out the claim that women have to push longer and harder to get a medical diagnosis. For example, women are typically diagnosed 2.5 years later for cancer and 4.5 years later for diabetes – and these aren’t isolated occurrences. All told, women are diagnosed later than men in more than 700 diseases.” https://www.forbes.com/sites/womensmedia/2021/09/21/just-your-imagination-the-dangerous-gender-bias-in-womens-healthcare/?sh=11b4d5263e54 “A study this month found that women are less…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 02:08 AM
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You aren’t accommodating for anyone here. I understood you perfectly the first time you said it. If you need to have something repeated multiple times to understand it, then that’s on you. Don’t try deflect that onto others. “The course of justice includes the police investigation of a possible crime (it is not necessary for legal proceedings to have begun). A false allegation which risks the arrest or wrongful conviction of an innocent person is enough… Perverting the course of justice is a ser…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 01:48 AM
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… Why are you just repeating parts of the last conversation? Is that really your contribution to this topic? Is that all you care about it? I haven’t made snippy comments. I have been incredibly thorough in my reasoning as I did believe once that this could be an interesting, intellectual debate. I have made my point. I am yet to see you come up with something decent here. Perhaps an additional clause to “perverting the course of justice” could work? What do you think on that?
/r/MensRights20/10/22 01:11 AM
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You haven’t dismantled anything, though? Not one point? What have you dismantled with the comment: “No haven’t”? 🤣 I have literally provided countless in this conversation. I’m becoming concerned at this point that I am arguing with a goldfish. Just go back and read the conversation. Again, nothing new to add here. Let’s see about your comment on the other debate.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 01:08 AM
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You love to quote me. I am fascinated to know what I have said in this conversation that misandrist. Quote away. You are ignoring what I am saying now, and arguing fact with opinion. I have provided endless examples, sources and a history lesson, while you have provided one example that was dropped once I explained it to you. Once again you have resorted to singular sentences and bland insults. You cannot just dismiss evidence, studies, statistics and fact on the grounds that it does not suit yo…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 12:55 AM
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You’re repeating again. Do you need medical attention? Or are you that desperate for attention that you are staying in this conversation despite not having anything left to contribute to it? Are you that clueless on this topic that you actually need me to define a common term for you? Or are you just hoping that you can somehow lure me into a semantics argument? I hope you aren’t attempting the latter, as that would be highly predictable and dull. I didn’t say I was going to educate you on it. I…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 12:39 AM
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Why are you repeating yourself and things I have said? Have you finally broken? Ooh, burn? 🤣 Feel free to refresh yourself on the conversation we have been having. I think you may have forgotten a large chunk of it. I did provide many examples. As I said, do you want more? Just as the “NPC” thing is embarrassing, so is the “opinion rejected” comment. Incredibly cringe and terminally online. I do recommend finding new, better insults and responses. There is plenty of evidence, I have already foun…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 12:34 AM
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Love, the NPC comment is quite embarrassing. I’d recommend stopping. I can’t educate you on everything. If you would like to know something, google it. It’s free. They literally don’t do that. I don’t know what dark recess of your mind conjured that up, but it is not true. What do you mean, what damages? Do you need me to spell everything out for you, or are you being deliberately obtuse? Or perhaps just a troll with nothing else to do. This, what is happening right now, are consequences to poss…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 12:26 AM
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You will argue with each other. It happens. You are two separate, individual human beings sharing a life together, so you won’t ever agree on all things. Even in the worst arguments, there should still be love. You shouldn’t argue to “win”, but to find the best possible solution to the problem for you both. It’s also important to be together after an argument, and make sure both parties are okay. Communication is truly everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 12:14 AM
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Ah, you’ve disappointed me! Based on the response I received from you on our other debate, I was hoping for a better one here. Let down. Here we are again, insulting intelligence needlessly in the hopes to try award yourself more credit. Doesn’t work. I have provided endless examples to you throughout this conversation on how women are mistreated in medicine, and even had a short delve into history to explain how this gender difference came to be. Do you want more examples? I can provide more ex…
/r/MensRights19/10/22 11:51 PM
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I don’t care whether you reject my opinion or not. I still hold it. I’m not going to go into the differences because that will literally take the conversation away from the primary topic. Stop trying to do that because you are running out of snippy comments. What do you mean ‘why not?’ They… just don’t? They literally do not do that. Sue for damages. Come on, now. Don’t ask silly questions. The case we are commenting proves there are consequences for false allegations. If the gentlemen accused w…
/r/MensRights19/10/22 11:30 PM
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What a disgusting view. What happened is not the commenters fault, nor is a single ounce of responsibility on them for what happened. Responsibility of on the man that raped them. You can be intimate in more ways than penetrative sex. They had already made their boundaries clear to the other person beforehand. Why are you so desperate to take blame away from a rapist that you will twist the event in your head so badly, that it is somehow the victims fault. Or of course, are you saying that all m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:24 PM
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That’s a brilliant and extremely level-headed way of putting it.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 11:06 PM
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I think simply disregarding the article due to it discussing the role of paternity on child development is reductionist, and patronising to men. Of course the expressed feelings of fathers will have an impact on their child. That’s not misandrist to say in the slightest. If anything, it highlights male issues. As explained in the article, it may explain why some children struggle with this stage in development more than others. Not being able to communicate clearly and having limited mobility is…
/r/MensRights19/10/22 10:47 PM
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Medicine was led by men. Science was led by men. Government was led by men. Laws were created by men. The church was run by men. The news was fabricated by men. Executioners were men. Judges were men. Juries were men. Education was for men. Education was led by men. The witch hunters were men. How are women to blame for existing in a society ran by men? In our society now, I could not accuse my neighbour of witchcraft and have them killed. My accusing them of witchcraft would not mean a thing. Y…
/r/MensRights19/10/22 07:03 PM
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It was a combination of church politics, family feuds, lack of medical and scientific knowledge, and hysterical children, all of which unfolded in a vacuum of political authority. Women confessed to being witches, and handed over other women, under torture by men. It was also men that condemned these women to torture, imprisonment and death in the courts, led the witch hunts, and caused the mass hysteria.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 03:13 PM
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I’m not gonna go into the differences currently and in law between the U.K. and the rest of the world. That will quite literally derail this entire conversation. 🤣 Claiming that statistics in the US are directly transferable to another country is a pure hypothesis, not a fact. The government does not deposit money into the back accounts of rape accusers. They just don’t. The rape accuser can sue the alleged rapists, same as the accused rapist can sue the accuser. She is being prosecuted for perv…
/r/MensRights19/10/22 09:53 AM
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Good Lord. Do you need me to spell it out for you? There are more government schemes for women’s health, because there is catching up to do and evidence against women’s treatment in healthcare. That is how there are more government schemes for women’s health. It’s because there has to be! You are actually crazy if you are going to sit here and argue that women throughout the history of medicine, were not mistreated. I am sorry, but you are. The examples I gave of the published works on women’s h…
/r/MensRights19/10/22 09:44 AM
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… I have literally answered you. There are more government schemes BECAUSE women are mistreated in U.K. healthcare. They are trying to combat it and reverse the damage of women’s treatment in medicine in history. The discrepancy is increasing between life expectancy because healthcare for women is gradually getting better, and we are understanding more about the female body in medicine. There are biological and behavioural factors that come into effect that cause an innate difference in life exp…
/r/MensRights19/10/22 12:53 AM
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Thank you very much! 😊 Glad to know, the other commenter is attempting to insult my intelligence at every turn, so it’s good to know I’m not babbling without realising. It’s shocking, isn’t it? I knew the difference existed in the NHS, but didn’t quite realise the extent of it until doing my own research after reading this post.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 10:36 PM
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That’s alright, don’t worry. I do understand your logic I believe, but I don’t agree with it, personally. I wouldn’t personally blame Satan for the Satanic Panic. I’d still say that’s on the ignorant and religiously delirious people behind it. I think the problem also lies with the ‘witches’ being the victims of the panic. It would be like saying that the West Memphis Three are to blame for the Satanic Panic.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 10:20 PM
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I think that’s a dangerous logic and phrasing. It’s ignorance, lack of education and herd mentality that’s the blame for the ‘panic’s that we have had across history.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 09:48 PM
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“Witches” did not cause mayhem within communities. Panic and superstition did. Men and women were accused of witchcraft.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 08:58 PM
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I literally explained why there are more government schemes for women in one of my previous comments. If you need help finding it, it’s where I explained why there are more government schemes, right before you said I didn’t answer you regarding why there are more government schemes. 🤣 I did answer your question. You either did not read it, or chose to be ignorant. Which was it? … Women having a longer life expectancy than men is literally the same thing as women outliving men? What? I explained …
/r/MensRights18/10/22 08:41 PM
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Okay. 🤣 Well I did address why there are more government programs in the U.K. for women’s health and men’s health. If you missed that, I suggest going back over my previous comment. Women outlive men in almost every society. In more developed countries, the average life expectancy at birth is 79 years for women, 72 years for men. In less developed countries, where high maternal mortality reduces the difference in longevity, women can expect to live an average of 66 years, compared with 63 years …
/r/MensRights18/10/22 10:37 AM
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You definitely seem resentful of the fact your wife is having a massage, and from the sounds of it, doesn’t work full time. If this is true, I suggest speaking to your wife, and not Reddit. Again, I do strongly suggest researching what pregnancy is like for most women. Even women that want children and are happy with being pregnant, hate pregnancy. It takes a toll on the body and mind, that can be felt throughout all activities. If someone told me that I had to either pay child support, or carry…
/r/MensRights17/10/22 03:02 PM
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It can be argued that women have been considered less important in healthcare as far back as Ancient Greece. Women are routinely underrepresented in clinical trials and that medical research proposed by women, for women, is not allotted the same funding as medical research proposed by men, for men. Irving Zucker, a professor emeritus of psychology and integrative biology at the University of California, Berkeley, said that for decades, women were excluded from clinical drug trials based, in part…
/r/MensRights17/10/22 02:51 PM
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As I have said before, I am talking about the U.K. You no not need to pay 25% of your income in the U.K. Also in the U.K., if you have other children, then you pay less in child support. It sounds you have some resentment toward your wife right now. Of course she can have a massage, her body is going through a hell of a lot. I do recommend doing some research into women’s experiences of pregnancy. If your wife is having an easy pregnancy, then that is fantastic for her, and I am glad. But that i…
/r/MensRights17/10/22 01:09 PM
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… Pregnancy is literally a 100% occupation of your body and mind, especially when it’s not wanted? You’re also assuming every person that pays child support that doesn’t want a relationship with the child does back breaking manual labor full time? There are other career paths for men than manual labor, and there are men in part time work, or in jobs they love. You also do not pay 25% of your wage to child support. You just don’t.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 11:38 AM
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Hi again. :) Even in cell and animal studies, subjects have been predominantly male. The U.K. was found to have the largest female health gap in the G20 and the 12th largest globally. It is not feminist propaganda to say that women in the U.K.‘s healthcare system are under & mistreated, it’s an unfortunate fact.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 10:31 AM
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I don’t quite know what you mean. Do you spend every single waking hour at work? Men that work to pay child support can still sleep, clean, cook, shop? In the U.K., if the man does not work and claim benefits, then he does not pay. If the mother claims child benefits, then he pays less. While I agree that he shouldn’t pay anything at all if he doesn’t want a relationship with the child, it isn’t a crippling amount. If someone is in a job that is having a very negative effect on their body, then …
/r/MensRights17/10/22 10:16 AM
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I am very sorry about what you went through. It’s good that your sister was seen to quickly for her scare, and it’s very wrong that you weren’t too. I’m not looking to discredit your experiences or outrage of it, however it is not indicative of the healthcare system in the U.K. as a whole. In many countries, men are more likely to suffer greater health risks. In the U.K., though, it was found to have the biggest female health gap in the G20 and 12th globally. There are a number of ways in which …
/r/MensRights17/10/22 10:05 AM
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From my experience, lesbian relationships tend to move faster than straight relationships, which allows less time for issues to arise before marriage. Women are also more likely to leave a relationship if it is unhappy. In a straight relationship, the wife could be happy and content, and the husband unhappy, but men are more likely to stay in the marriage. This is less likely in a lesbian relationship, based on what we have observed on women in relationships so far. Ironically though, studies ha…
/r/MensRights16/10/22 01:55 PM
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There’s a big range of factors. I think women have potentially less to lose than men, especially when children are involved. Courts favour women in child custody and child support, so the man could risk losing a lot by divorcing her. Men are shown to be emotionally worse off after a divorce, so any close friendships with a struggling divorcee could put them off filing for one. Women also tend to have more close friends than them, so they will receive more support regarding marital issues and as …
/r/MensRights16/10/22 12:20 PM
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Do you know of the serious issues that can arise in pregnancy and childbirth? There’s a host of issues that can come up that can literally impact you for the rest of your life. Your body will change. It’s not just about having a large tum for a few months. The pro-life, pro-choice debate is just about abortion. That is all it refers to, and adding other issues to it does a discredit to the fight for abortion rights, and the right for fathers in court. It also confuses the situation. Someone can …
/r/MensRights16/10/22 11:59 AM
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As I’ve said, I completely agree. Both parties should be able to choose what they want to do in regards to playing an active role in that child’s life. Child custody laws, while mostly affecting men, do also apply equally to women. Taking money is not the same as taking someone’s body. I know which I would rather out of the two situations. I wasn’t the one that made it about ‘who has it worse’. I only carried on that train of thought as you initially started that. I do stand by my original point…
/r/MensRights16/10/22 05:06 AM
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Not in the U.K. Child support is calculated based on the amount earned, with other commitments, such as other children, taken into account. While I still disagree that abortion and child support are the same issue, we can argue that way if you want to turn it into pain olympics. A woman cannot have a legal abortion will pay a hell of a lot more than the man in raising the child as a full time, single parent. Or else, condemn the child to a system rife with abuse and neglect. Never mind having to…
/r/MensRights16/10/22 04:04 AM
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Isn’t child support based on the income of the non-involved parent? The issue is the non-involved parents right, or lack thereof, of opting out of the child’s life and not having to pay child support as a result. It’s more about government issued financial abuse when the parent doesn’t want to be involved at all, and the child support payments are too high. I understand what you are saying, but by that logic, so is having to pay bills, tax or rent. Abortion is just a separate issue. Both are imp…
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:20 AM
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Like I just said, I agree that what men go through in parental arrangements is shocking and needs fixing. Men should not have to pay child support if they do not wish to have a relationship with the child- that’s just a lazy, selfish government not wanting to help single mothers and punishing the fathers for it. In regards to custody and parental rights, it’s disgusting how outdated views on parenthood and gender roles are still enforced in law. However, the pro-birth/pro-choice debate is regard…
/r/MensRights16/10/22 01:43 AM
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Well, the pro-choice/pro-birth argument only applies to abortion, which is why those points don’t get brought up? While I agree they need to change, child support and child custody are unrelated to abortion. It would be better to treat both matters as completely separate issues so the struggles that men have are addressed with the full attention they deserve.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 01:27 AM
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1) I do agree that names should be withheld until at the very least, a charge has been brought. Investigations or accusations should never lead to either parties identities being released. 2) Men can sue for compensation for false accusations. In both cases, it is more likely that the guilty party will be penalised, as it requires less evidence to sue someone for financial compensation, than it does for a guilty verdict in court. 3) “You can ask for 'special measures' to make going to court easi…
/r/MensRights15/10/22 11:42 PM
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pink-tax-examples_l_5d24da77e4b0583e482850f0/amp
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:56 PM
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Like I said, if that’s the case, then the law does not apply. “However, the law notably allows price disparities for specific reasons. It points out that costs of items can be different if the price is based on how much time it takes to make the items, how difficult it is to make them, the “cost incurred in manufacturing,” “[t]he labor used,” [t]he materials used,” as well as “[a]ny other gender-neutral reason for charging a different price for those goods.” The law only applies to products that…
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:50 PM
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So, you believe that they have introduced this under the pure assumption it may happen one day?
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:42 PM
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That’s great, I have. They wouldn’t just bring in this without there being just cause. Just because you haven’t seen it, doesn’t mean it isn’t true.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 03:24 PM
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This only applies to products that are the exact same, but charge more for the ‘female’ version. For instant, two packs of disposable razors. They are the exact same, no difference in manufacturing time or cost, charging more simply because it’s being pushed to women, not men. It’s to stop women being charged more by companies for a ‘female’ product, when there is no actual cause of it. If we’re talking about higher end razors, where the female product has the lotion strips, more expensively des…
/r/MensRights15/10/22 12:45 PM
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Could you please explain what you mean by extending it to men? :)
/r/MensRights15/10/22 12:19 PM
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I’m not sure where you are from, but no. They are very different. No, of course the culture difference isn’t as dramatic as between the U.K. and Japan, but it is still there. I personally can’t see any reason for anyone to lie. Let’s not delve into hypotheticals and personal opinions on the matter. There are two different countries and should be treated as such. How does the government give money to rape accusers and how do you know that it’s regardless of truth? Again, can we stop being hostile…
/r/MensRights15/10/22 12:46 AM
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Don’t blame you. It just seems so lazy and pandering to the very few people that actually wanted that film made 🤣
/r/MensRights14/10/22 04:27 PM
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I haven’t seen the all female Ghostbusters. Is it as god awful as I’ve heard? 🤣
/r/MensRights14/10/22 01:27 PM
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What? No, our justice systems are very different, laws are different, and culture different. I don’t know what you mean what you mention government programs for rape accusers? Do you mean shelters and support for victims of rape? I haven’t said there are 100 worlds. Come on, now. Of course I am going to be concerned about the way that something can be manipulated. I mean isn’t that what we are talking about right now? Why would we want to give rapists avenues to further torment their victims? Cr…
/r/MensRights14/10/22 01:26 PM
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Perhaps if you preface the argument with comparing it to rape, then this will be why you don’t receive a level headed and civil conversation. Not only is it a terrible comparison, but it’s also not the pain olympics. If you wish to discuss MGM, then just discuss MGM. On the whole though I do agree with you. It shouldn’t be practiced anymore in the way it is.
/r/MensRights14/10/22 09:11 AM
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Well, they are different countries? Of course there will be differences. To say that there won’t be, is ridiculous. I have also said that in an ideal world, people that make false allegations should be locked up and the key thrown away. Do you want to quote me on that? I have, quite literally, said many times during this argument that I do believe there should be a punishment for this, just one that doesn’t make matters worse for all parties. I like to think I’ve been quite clear here, nor have …
/r/MensRights14/10/22 09:08 AM
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Perhaps I should have been clearer. Jennifer’s Body is not a direct rip off of male leading horror movies. Jennifer’s Body takes well known horror movie tropes and stereotypes and messes with them. I don’t agree with gender bending pre-existing licenses. That’s lazy writing. No one asked for a all-female Ghostbusters, even women. That’s why it tanked so hard. I’ve also seen absolutely scathing reviews for She-Hulk by men and women alike. You cannot compare the all female Ghostbusters with Jennif…
/r/MensRights14/10/22 09:04 AM
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Yep. Exactly this. I used to class myself as a feminist but then I realised that neither side will have their issues fixed if you only tackle one side of the story. It’s such a shame that both sides can’t find common ground, honestly. I completely agree, the justice system is an absolute joke and needs overhauling completely and modernised. Hopefully one day someone can come up with a law that will help victims of false allegations, without endangering anyone else. I am very sorry. I know it’s n…
/r/MensRights14/10/22 12:10 AM
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This is fantastically well written. 🙌🏻
/r/MensRights13/10/22 11:38 PM
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Well surely taking a known idea and flipping it on its head is original and daring? As opposed to just recreating the same movie with different characters each time? In horror movies around that time, female sexuality was portrayed very cheaply, very crass. Female characters were dumb, slutty and easy victims that died in brutal and often embarrassing ways. Many victims in horror movies were female. This took all of the tropes of these types of films from around that era and gave it a new twist,…
/r/MensRights13/10/22 11:24 PM
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I do agree with you that doing that for any reason other than medically necessary is terrible. Truly terrible. But it is not equal to rape. As said before by someone else, you would be better for the sake of the argument comparing it to FGM. For example, how FGM is considered absolutely horrendous in the West, and yet circ is accepted in places like the US. Even then, it is not a perfect example as FGM is usually completed when the child is older, not done in a hospital, can have very serious, d…
/r/MensRights13/10/22 11:09 PM
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Thank you for the source. I did mention previously that I am talking exclusively about the U.K. here, and the source looks to not be talking about the U.K. I will still have a read over it though. I have already said that I am not against punishment. I am just saying that there needs to be very careful, and strictly followed framework to make sure that it cannot be used on victims. If 10% of rape cases are false, that leaves a hell of a lot of real rape cases that can be made so much more painfu…
/r/MensRights13/10/22 11:01 PM
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Hi, thank you for your reply. 😊 I do agree with you actually on most points. I would say that Cardi B, if anything, has gotten away with telling the truth. The fact she has gotten away with it is truly disgusting, but not too surprising in the industry. Unfortunately there are many celebrities that have gotten away with crimes just because they are likeable. Chris Brown would be an example. The world is opening their eyes now to false allegations and the damage they can do, ie Amber Heard. I wou…
/r/MensRights13/10/22 10:53 PM
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Do you have a source to back up that statement? I would like to read it for my own research into the topic. I don’t quite understand how my saying that a punishment could lead to rape victims being unfairly punished means that I hate men? I hope you stretched sufficiently before making that leap there. Perhaps you’re looking for hatred where it does not exist. The problem with rape and with false rape accusations, is that people are scumbags. Plain and simple. If someone is out to get someone el…
/r/MensRights13/10/22 06:00 PM
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Also, it’s worth noting for future reference that putting words in the mouth of the other party is not a good way to try and ‘win’ a debate. Nor are insults. I understand that this is an emotional topic. However, if you cannot handle that emotion in a healthy way, then you shouldn’t be debating about it in the first place.
/r/MensRights13/10/22 05:47 PM
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Well… Yes of course? People commit murder more than people that falsely accuse and have someone put away for it. I don’t think there’s quite a need for the attitude, really. I am trying to have a civil debate with you, there’s no need to be so hostile, or try to make out that I am somehow man hating. As I said, in an ideal world people who do this will be locked up and the key thrown away. I don’t dispute that that is what they deserve. I also have never once said that these people don’t deserve…
/r/MensRights13/10/22 05:43 PM
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I did. Are you referring to Section 41 of the Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act 1999? That’s the closest we have to a Rape Shield Law. A more direct Rape Shield Law was proposed in 2017 but was unsuccessful. If you are referring to Section 41 of the Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act 1999, the restriction does not prohibit questions about a complainant’s previous false complaints of rape and sexual assault.
/r/MensRights12/10/22 07:28 PM
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We are talking about U.K. only.
/r/MensRights12/10/22 06:43 PM
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Thank you for your response. :) I did see your other comments, so my response wasn’t really aimed at you, but it was a good place to put it. Yes I also think that the claim that most allegations are false is a load of unfounded nonsense. I don’t think those arguing these types of things realise that victims of false allegations is something close to their hearts and something they are passionate about, just the same as SA and rape is to women. They argue against the ‘believe all women stance’ wh…
/r/MensRights12/10/22 06:28 PM
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I would just like to say something in regards to the “what that woman did was horrible” part. I have said this in full in the comments, but I don’t understand the logic behind this. I understand you personally are arguing against some of the ridiculous claims on this post so I thank you, and this isn’t entirely aimed at you. The above link is regarding an active court case. Why are so many people ranting and raving about how wrong ‘guilty until proven innocent’ is and calling her a liar and crim…
/r/MensRights12/10/22 06:03 PM
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This will likely be a long response, so please bear with me. I am talking about the U.K. here. Just the U.K. As I said, I understand there are biological differences towards men and women. In the U.K., women did have to fight. - Marital rape was only made a criminal offence in 1991. - Women did not have access to safe and legal abortions until 1967. - Single women had to wait 6 years until it was legal for them to have the contraceptive pill in comparison to married women. - Women were not prote…
/r/MensRights12/10/22 04:29 PM
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I’ve had a few discussions about this so I’ll comment it here. I would just like to point out that we are here arguing over how bad ‘guilty until proven innocent’ and ‘trial by social media’ is, on an active court case. You are assuming this girl’s guilt before she’s even had a chance to defend herself in court. If you are upset over the man that was kept in custody for three months, then you should be devastated to know that this girl was kept in custody for 2 entire years while awaiting trial.…
/r/MensRights12/10/22 04:00 PM
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That’s absolutely fine. I do understand how it came across, and I never intended it to be that way. While there is a biological underlying factor, women have fought against the oppression of this system for a long time- unable to evoke change as those in charge were men. There are women alive and well that couldn’t open a bank account without a man’s approval. It was a male governed society that dictated how women must live and be perceived and treated. The punishment, or lack thereof, of the Na…
/r/MensRights12/10/22 03:35 PM
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It isn’t. If that was the case, then we would see a much higher rate of conviction. U.K. March 2020- The number of rapes recorded by the police was 70,330. The number of charges brought was 2,223. In 2021, only 1 in 100 rapes recorded by police in 2021 resulted in a charge that same year, let alone a conviction.
/r/MensRights12/10/22 03:20 PM
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In an ideal world, I completely agree. Throw these liars away and throw away the key. In reality however, it would just lead to more victims.
/r/MensRights12/10/22 03:17 PM
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Well, people coming forward admitting it was a false allegation does happen, and is a big reason why the innocent party is acquitted. Someone can be put away falsely for rape or sexual assault due to false and planted evidence, right? According to this thread, it’s easy to do. In that case, rapists are terrible people. Adding a punishment, even just monetary compensation, could lead to victims being punished unfairly for attempting to bring their assaulter to justice. It could very, very easily …
/r/MensRights12/10/22 03:16 PM
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I apologise if my above comment was unclear. I did try to leave the scenario above gender neutral. I am not saying that “believe all women” is somewhat understandable in principle because they are women. The phrase is believe all women due to very large majority of victims of reported sexual crimes are women. The problem with bringing history that far back into this is the gender bias men created. No one thought women were capable of doing something like that with a sound mind and completely of …
/r/MensRights12/10/22 03:11 PM
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Usually, someone is acquitted of a false allegation, after the other person comes forwards and admits it. Hell, even if it only accounts for a small percentage. Wouldn’t that just stop people coming forward about it? Hence, punishing the innocent party even more?
/r/MensRights12/10/22 03:00 PM
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I am not sure where you have seen people encouraging others to lie about this. I have never seen anything like that, maybe I am just lucky. However, it’s important to remember that people can sometimes just be terrible and morally corrupt. On the flip side, there are those that encourage people to sexually assault others. That I have seen. There are ramifications for social media lies. You can sue. I understand that some may not have the means to do this, though. I don’t quite understand why the…
/r/MensRights12/10/22 02:41 PM
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Also, in regards to public opinion and the ‘believe all women’ it is somewhat understandable in principle. If you hired someone to care for your child, and they had a sexual allegation against them, would you feel comfortable leaving your child with them alone? Of course not. The problem is when it goes from reasonable wariness or unease, to harassment and trial by social media.
/r/MensRights12/10/22 02:00 PM
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Okay, that’s public opinion. You said that the legal system is set up to encourage women to make false allegations. You most definitely do need evidence when making an accusation to the police.
/r/MensRights12/10/22 01:57 PM
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Can you please elaborate on how the legal system is set up to encourage women to make false allegations?
/r/MensRights12/10/22 12:28 PM
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