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I think other people didn't misunderstand becsuse they didn't approach it like a scientific study but directly related it to their personal experience with their own plates - which is the highly biased POV. Of course, it is possible to sample in a different way. Thanks for working with me to understand what I meant.
/r/TheRedPill30/10/18 02:46 PM
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why would you even want to estimate their sluttiness in the first place? You're right, we don't need to estimate it. But it's not just about sluttiness, it's about everything. The kind of women, in every single measure, are skewed by your sampling bias. For example when you look at how many of your plates are interested in xyz (anything: reading a science fiction book, whatever), you're really oversampling whichever of your plates have more connections. That's it. It's skewing your understanding…
/r/TheRedPill30/10/18 11:05 AM
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Maybe, depending on how you mean "run into". When will you run into a woman who goes to work, goes to the grocery store near her home, and then stays home playing video games or watching netflix by herself? If she never puts herself out there you won't meet her. She's not even on dating apps, she makes zero effort. Let's say you sign up for a dating app. What are the chances she'll be in your first ten matches? Literally zero, I just told you she doesn't sign up for them. Literally zero chance o…
/r/TheRedPill30/10/18 09:40 AM
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nononono. you really don't get the basic idea. The reason we weigh them to find what bias we'll see is because we're more likely to draw from the larger ones. (the specific numbers I used were just used to illustrate this effect.) Let's say it like this. Say there are five different classrooms with each having 1 professor teaching in it. Nobody shows up for 4 of the classes, and the fifth one 20 people show up. I want you to think about what the average class size is. if you asked the professors…
/r/TheRedPill30/10/18 08:57 AM
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Were you going to have him tell her about this change, chief? Or eight months later when she catches him with someone does he have to say, "Oh sorry babe this has been an open relationship / I've been single for the past eight months, since you posted 'I'm bored' and a picture of a bong on tumblr." "What??" "On your trip." "What are you talking about!! I didn't do anything on my trip!!" "Sorry man, you were demoted." "DEMOTED???" "Yeah I bumped you down to Lieutenant." "WHAT?" "sorry." I mean co…
/r/askTRP30/10/18 07:54 AM
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Thanks. I almost explicitly mentioned flatmates (or sisters) because that is a far more random sampling.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/18 05:37 PM
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No, you're weighing them the wrong way. Yes, the average of 50 and 3 = 26.5, which is what you calculated. But think about why you're excluding the zeros. Why are you averaging a 3 and a 50 instead of a 3, a 0, and a 50? Because the zero has zero chance to be in your bed, even though in my scenario there's just as many of them. In the same way, you have to weigh the 50's by the increased chance. In other words it's actually less likely for the two women you're sleeping with to be a 3 and 50 than…
/r/TheRedPill29/10/18 02:08 PM
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it's a fantastic rule because the girl will come to your place and fuck you. If she just sent you ten love emojis or other stupid shit and you don't even send a smiley emoji back, just make arrangements in sentences that Do Not Include an emoji. I could give you an example in practice but I think you can use your imagination. You wouldn't believe this shit works! This shit works. No emojis. Don't use emojis.
/r/askTRP28/10/18 04:01 PM
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Just want to second the "no emojis ever" rule. At first I thought this made me come off as pissed/passive aggressive. (If someone sends you emojis why wouldn't you send emojis back?) But it is fantastic. Follow this rule.
/r/askTRP28/10/18 12:57 PM
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10 of them were repealed under the Obama administration (not judging, just facts), down to 38 laws now. . . . . /s
/r/askTRP20/10/18 07:55 PM
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yeah he is. I'd guess he's around 190 lbs @ 10% body fat, based on her messages and interest. And that's on a 5'9" frame. How'd I do OP?
/r/askTRP20/10/18 07:29 PM
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haha all right, thanks.
/r/askTRP17/10/18 04:58 AM
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hey, thanks. this is the kind of feedback I was looking for. can you mention a search that I can do on Amazon that will come up with the projector you use? (I phrase it this way in case the reason you didn't link your exact model is not to dox yourself.) That's about the price I'd like to pay, too. is the fan loud?
/r/askTRP17/10/18 04:29 AM
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The specific reason I asked is because I read some FR from some guy who reported that back in his blue pill days he constantly had girls in his bed who came home to watch things because he had a projector, and he never made a move. so I thought it might be a bit more intriguing or like a movie experience (as far as a plausible reason to go check it out) which is why they agreed so enthusiastically (besides plain being into him), dunno. what you just said makes sense too.
/r/askTRP17/10/18 04:11 AM
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for the obvious reason that I am asking in the context of bringing someone home to "watch a movie". I don't care about the quality and there will be relatively little movie-watching. in response to your question I updated the post to make it more obvious
/r/askTRP17/10/18 03:58 AM
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I don't know man. Take something else that might conform to this definition but isn't a religion: I assume you and I and everyone on this or any forum probably believes more or less in Democracy (we wouldn't want a totalitarian dictator in power that 97% of people hate and who wants to stifle and limit all speech and executes everyone who speaks out against him). But is our belief a "religion"? I see what you're saying but I think to be called a religion it has to concern the existence or non-ex…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/18 09:54 PM
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I like your write-up a lot more than your title. Feminism doesn't really have any religious aspects, and for being such a cult, it isn't exactly famous for leadership. So while I find your write-up spot-on, think a better title is something like "Feminism is like religious fervor in the Dark Ages" or something. Honestly, I don't really see any metaphysical aspects (literally religious aspects) - if anything, it's pretty secular.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/18 09:30 PM
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I added clarification. I'm a bit bitter about it because these "hobbies" are jokes and kind of suck. something actually useful, like a beginner electronics class, doesn't count: you have to pick something useless. a great example is some foreign language like Swedish. Now if you speak English, what does learning some Swedish get you? After years there you'd speak less well than literally everyone you'd want to interact with can speak in English. But those years could be invested into something u…
/r/askTRP13/10/18 01:17 AM
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I got two pieces of advice for you: FIRST: -> you have to pick up some shitty hobby nobody cares about. yoga in the park? Amazing idea. Pottery class? What better use of the time of a person who is part of civilization in 2018. Not shitty hobby: how to set up recurrent billing on a web site and grow an organic community of customers. hard pass on that one chief, you have better things to do in your evenings than participate in the digital economy. (Such as the aforementioned pottery class.) Okay…
/r/askTRP13/10/18 12:12 AM
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I already read yourbrainonporn.com and you know what else I did since reading it? Had a lot of fun masturbating with lube and pornuub.com!!! Great masturbatory experiences. Was delicious. Extremely pleasant use of my time. Way better than watching a hollywood film. That's a fact. But you know what was even better than this experience? FUCKING A CHICK. Even MORE fantastic use of my time. Was it worth all the shit I had to jump through in order to fuck that chick - or anyone else? Including gettin…
/r/askTRP10/10/18 12:31 AM
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that's very interesting - thanks for the detailed info. gotta admit this is kinda weird talking with guys about "feeling" yourself. Paying attention to the sensations you feel without watching or thinking about anything. positive masculinity my ass lol. I wanna go back to beta, blue pilled me where I was reading about feminism and shit hahahahahaaa. But seriously thanks.
/r/askTRP10/10/18 12:23 AM
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so to answer my question: you stopped jacking off to it?
/r/askTRP09/10/18 10:34 PM
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I guess you're right, I just thought this post would give me an additional tool since clearly whatever I had in my mental toolbox was not really enough for my purposes.
/r/askTRP09/10/18 10:33 PM
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great info - this is precisely the kind of thing I was asking for. (Though others in this thread have suggested alternative solutions that are not based on details of the shitty production process.) did this knowledge or thinking about this stuff help you quit consuming porn?
/r/askTRP09/10/18 09:58 PM
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thanks for calling attention to the "less depressing tactic" in your original comment, since I didn't carefully pay attention to the distinction. These both seem like good mental tools. you say you quit cold turkey - does that mean you didn't use porn once per week or something? (whenever you didn't have a girl just then.) after a week or so it becomes quite vexing not to have release - and porn looks and feels pretty great, is fun. just curious what I might expect. I mean that fapstinance when …
/r/askTRP09/10/18 09:52 PM
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When I first quit porn and I had an urge, I would try and picture my OLTR or crush being the girl in the porn video. That thought would piss me off so much that it would propel me to do something to better myself like go to the gym, meditate, read, etc. This sounds interesting, I'm going to try it. Or, you know, hopefully not try it haha.
/r/askTRP09/10/18 09:01 PM
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I corrected the comment you replied to. I didn't mean production in a positive sense. I just meant to evoke that there was some sweaty guy with a camera, the porn star had to show up, it was smelly and gross. etc. I just meant it in the sense that there was a location, a camera, and some people making a porno. I've never been on a porn set. maybe I should visit one, I hear it's gross. that's the point about my post. there's nothing artistic about it.
/r/askTRP09/10/18 08:59 PM
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Hey, thanks! This is a really important observation!!!
/r/askTRP09/10/18 08:33 PM
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thanks, but the porn I watch pretty obviously doesn't have that.
/r/askTRP09/10/18 08:32 PM
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there's no "should" about it. There's nothing wrong with going on pornhub, getting some lube out and having some fun masturbating. I'd just like to start not doing that and I think learning some disgusting facts will help me do that. The reason I think so is that I don't think the people who work in that industry do it. Are you saying it's like going to the gym? Where you just have to have willpower? I guess that could be the case. I guess I'm just hoping to have some "fun facts" that will make …
/r/askTRP09/10/18 08:31 PM
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sure but this is intellectual. doesn't make porn disgusting to me but I have a good idea that some factual information would: the reason I think so is that I don't think porn stars watch porn. At all. so facts about the production should turn me off of the product, I think. I don't want to have to fight temptation or something. just learn enough facts about the product that I don't really want it anymore - after all, the people who make and participate in it don't really use it. I think it's kin…
/r/askTRP09/10/18 06:50 PM
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Thanks. can you remember the article? sounds like it's what I'm looking for. was it one of these? (I'm sure you'll remember which one you read faster than I can find the right one. I'm interested in the effect on me here.)
/r/askTRP09/10/18 04:36 PM
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thanks, this is a pretty good answer. (whatever makes you sick.) how did you learn that talents are addicted to drugs and alcohol? did you just read that somewhere? (I don't exactly believe it, but I want to believe it, because that's what I'm looking for in this thread.)
/r/askTRP09/10/18 04:31 PM
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but it's not actual sex it's just a film production crappy disgusting set. real sex is way better, so just tell me what i need to know that'll turn me off of the production crappy disgusting set. if you don't know you don't know, but someone else might. I doubt porn stars watch porn (or find it sexy). so what do they know that I don't. someone can tell me. and as for "self restraint" obviously I don't have it. porn is just so easy and fun but I want to stop without having to exercise self restra…
/r/askTRP09/10/18 04:28 PM
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all right.
/r/askTRP07/10/18 09:23 PM
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meh. nah it's okay.
/r/askTRP07/10/18 09:22 PM
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thanks for your clear and comprehensive answers.
/r/askTRP07/10/18 09:22 PM
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Hey, great replies. And if you work together at times? (And have other reasons to communicate)? Basically the reason for doing this is so that they see they shouldn't be unreasonable with you in the future. I mean, if you just ignore this issue to just work on other stuff, then they don't really have an opportunity to learn from their mistakes. (To realize that their overreaction was really quite unreasonable.) With 5 year olds it works very well to playfully mock some kind of overreact, to teac…
/r/askTRP07/10/18 04:25 PM
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Any recommendations for daygame? Yes, actually. This: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/64yjvz/this_is_how_you_should_escalate_most_do_it_wrong/ The intro says: Escalation is not my strongest point in game... it is my game. Having gotten very good at it, I barely do anything else. The rest is all icing on the cake; so long as you can already open, are attractive and have a vaguely presentable house, etc, etc. The other stuff I've been over before so go and read that if you are weak th…
/r/askTRP07/10/18 12:54 PM
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Seconding above link. It completely changed my life. (Well, my night game anyway.)
/r/askTRP07/10/18 12:09 PM
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with us quarantined degenerates. You are not holding frame (srs). I am just starting out a red piller, but I have found it is true: you need to be the rock. When someone accuses you of something unfairly, don't enter their frame. Calmly state the facts, once, amd move on. Then after they see the truth and come around, and like a lightswitch don't even mention that they were wrong. So here just state that it is bold to associate with red pill given the current unethical and unfair censorship of f…
/r/TheRedPill07/10/18 11:35 AM
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I never use condoms anymore, I don't worry about it and never talk about STDs. I'm concerned serious talk like that will make the girl paranoid and insist on using a condom, and I hate condoms so I don't want that to happen. My way of dealing with it is to get myself tested 2 weeks later (not for HIV or syphilis, though). I'm pretty sure your risk depends on how you're picking girls up. If you're spamming every chick you match with on Tinder asking for sex tonight in your first message, you migh…
/r/askTRP26/09/18 10:16 AM
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This was a very interesting little essay (I read your other comment where you left a tl;dr too, but replying to this one.) It gives a good overall viewpoint. I don't have a lot of followups but this resonated with me: If you've fully digested TRP and understand it, then chances are you won't feel the compulsion to open up and gush emotionally in the first place; Could it be that the "script" that TRP gives is kind of like training wheels -- letting you notice when you are being driven by overinv…
/r/askTRP23/09/18 10:52 PM
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honestly probably not. I usually talk to normal looking average women not some 18 year old dressed to the nines. thanks for the reminder.
/r/askTRP23/09/18 10:40 PM
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to a total stranger you said fuck "no, bitch"? I wouldn't but all right.
/r/askTRP23/09/18 08:27 PM
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Okay what's the line? I can't imagine anything working in the situation you described, let alone with the effect you stated.
/r/askTRP23/09/18 02:42 PM
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Thanks. Yeah that is not going to burn 2000 Calories (nor should it), so while you'll keep making progress don't expect miracles. Stick with it!
/r/askTRP23/09/18 02:26 PM
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By work I mean end up in bed with a woman. All I can say is that what you've written about a script applies to me following what I learned on TRP, like a script. Acting stoic. Not sending emojis. Texting for logistics. When a plate I'm actually having sex with sends me hearts, how is it more genuine for me to act stoic and not send hearts back (but instead invite her over later, withoit emojis) by following TRP script, when what I feel in that moment is hearts right back at her. But I won't send…
/r/askTRP23/09/18 02:24 PM
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Maybe. If you drank 1 gallon of water, why would you lose water weight? How many hours per day have you worked out?
/r/askTRP23/09/18 02:16 PM
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I'm super late to this thread but 10 lbs of fat burned is 35,000 Calories. (A lb of fat is about 3500 Cal.) In 1 week that would be a 5,000 Calorie per day deficit. Running a complete 26 mile marathon for 5 hours burns about 3,500 Calories.. So unless you ran a marathon each second day you did not lose 10 lbs of fat in two weeks. Maybe water weight if you didn't drink enough.
/r/askTRP23/09/18 11:59 AM
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Your first comment was great but on this one, come on. You know that blue pilled men spend 100% of their time being genuine with everyone all the time. That doesn't work. They can go through 500 women and soak the panties of... 0 of them. Some might accidentally spend a few minutes vetting them before deciding against. So while what you say is awesome advice after RP stuff, actually RP means holding frame 100% of the time. What people used to call "being genuine" they now call that blue pilled v…
/r/askTRP23/09/18 04:36 AM
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Thanks for the feedback! I was late to the game and you're the only one who decided to give it. Could you give your quailfications (I mean in terms of your personal success since taking the red pill) I was pretty clear that I'm just a beginner. However I don't recall any girl I've ever gotten with ever saying let's just be friends at any point. I think it means "I'm not attracted to you. you don't turn me on" in which case my time is wasted on her and I should spend that time with someone who I …
/r/TheRedPill20/09/18 09:18 PM
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Beginner here, my answers. Will appreciate feedback from more experienced people (not theory.) “Are you a player?” Don't acknowledge overtly. She is afraid of being taken advantage of. Smile at her, then touch her hair or even straight give her a kiss on the cheek if you haven't yet. Immediately move her or change the subject (hot/cold). Don't let the moment linger. ”Bring me my shoes!!" LTR: do so, if it's a normal interaction. If she's being negative or bitchy (this should be super rare) then …
/r/TheRedPill18/09/18 12:50 PM
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Thanks a lot for sharing this with us, verbatim. Omg so much cringe.
/r/askTRP18/09/18 06:28 AM
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tl;dr of rest of this comment: yeah okay fine. I'll wait to get "tells me verbally to do anything I want to her" then I'll just take charge and go wild :) hey thanks, I really appreciate all this info which is obv pretty personal so thanks for sharing. Okay, so you two appreciate pretty rough sex. But you got rougher as you built familiarity right, you fuck harder now than the very first time you had sex right? Like, it wasn't like that hard on day 1? If so maybe I can just build up to it over t…
/r/askTRP12/09/18 04:55 AM
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I know you say that but my experience is that for this: "but don’t be stupid to deliberately do something that she has told you she isn’t okay with. It isn’t worth jail or accusations to begin with", over time as they become more comfortable with me we can push the envelope a lot farther. I think what you're saying applies more to ONS and the like, right?
/r/askTRP12/09/18 04:45 AM
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tl;dr of the rest of this comment: I'm bluepill hamstering some more. do you say this speaking from experience (are you having sex regularly or at least occasionally with this style)? How long do you usually have sex with a girl? (I don't mean like how long you last inside her, for the whole thing). for us it's a long time, like hours, and a great, positive experience. It's not a 5-12 minute thing, is it for you? Do they orgasm? Multiple times? Do you ever go down on them? Also I want to go so h…
/r/askTRP12/09/18 03:40 AM
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Let me get this straight... women actually LIKE/ENJOY being strung along for sex? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 02:42 AM
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Women are absolutely, 100% not against it. They grin ear to ear, smile at you, and are so, so, so happy that someone FINALLY gets it. They completely support red pill, and this includes feminists. On a feminist subreddit, a feminist poster called what I wrote -- which I did not call the red pill -- porn for her. She had no disagreement. There is absolutely zero opposition to the Red Pill, which is why it is called the Red Pill. (From what I hear, mostly the opposition comes from Blue Pill white …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:30 AM
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Not if you're meeting at a starbucks. Here's an example of adding safety: "Let's meet at the secluded forest clearing outside our rural town" (obv not a quote) "Wait, I don't know you. am I about to he murdered?" "We can meet at the starbucks on fuller street." "That sounds better." "Okay. See you there at 5." (Hours pass, then she texts: "wait, can we make ir six?" - "np" Then you meet at six.) So you address whatever the concern is but you don't put it into words.
/r/askTRP11/09/18 05:10 AM
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I asked in detail on this subreddit about how to handle this. What you need to do is very precise: do NOT joke about it. Act in a way that shows that you are safe, but no need to joke. The proper response is something like "We can meet at the Starbucks on Fuller street." Notice what I didn't do: did NOT acknowkedge or joke about their worry overtly. Did NOT white-knight "oh I'm really concerned about your safety! Let's go someplace we definitely can't have any seclusion no matter what. Like join…
/r/askTRP11/09/18 02:15 AM
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don't know. people suggest it, wondered if anyone did.
/r/askTRP07/09/18 05:30 PM
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I saw an interview with Elvis (you can search). In interviews he doesn't use his deep, baritone singing voice. (doesn't keep him from being a star). by contrast in his movie roles Patrick Swayze speaks every line deeply. bouncer's also report more compiance speaking wiht a "bouncer voice" which can be deep. a deep, low voice is also reported as useful in building attraction.
/r/askTRP07/09/18 05:30 PM
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asking about the man not any of his characters
/r/askTRP02/09/18 01:49 AM
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read the comments on any of his videos. For example this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcjx7tTQTQU&t=257s I think it's something about his dancer background (I learned in that interview, from the age of 6 though.) I don't understand why the women aren't commenting on his rather deep and masculine voice though. Why does he have a voice like that? I think he compensated for being a dancer so that he wouldn't come off as so gay or something. (As shown in the interview.) I also think somethin…
/r/askTRP01/09/18 03:17 PM
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yeah I didn't want to color the responses so I didn't include any more. Basically I thought that some people might have already done their own analysis of him and his status etc. It doesn't matter I guess.
/r/askTRP01/09/18 01:13 PM
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is this theory or have you done it like this? If I ended a date the way you suggest and then stopped contacting them, my experience is they'd never get back in touch with me by themselves -- even if they would if I follow up. after all, can't they be thinking it's on me to follow up 3 days later? (per some old dating customs?)
/r/askTRP01/09/18 01:39 AM
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this was interesting, thanks. I don't get why they should be surprised when you try to kiss them. in the culture where you are, is going back to a guy's place -- off of tinder -- not a sign that sex is definitely potentially on the table! Where I am, I can't imagine a tinder date being surprised if you kiss her if she comes over...
/r/askTRP30/08/18 04:20 AM
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are you ever rejected at home?
/r/askTRP30/08/18 01:56 AM
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thanks, very useful.
/r/askTRP29/08/18 10:43 PM
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I am pretty sure there is a key/secret way to read their mind though. are they fidgety because they're trying to figure out how to delicately extricate themselves from this date they totally don't want to be on? Or which for some stupid reason they didn't even think was a date, and now it's obvious that I think it is and they're like oh no! how do I leave. because apparently I'm the predator in 2018 if they have to shoot me down but don't know how to. I can't read super shy girls and I don't wan…
/r/askTRP29/08/18 07:00 PM
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that answer is fine. it's what I was asking for.
/r/askTRP29/08/18 06:57 PM
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call it retarded if you want but oytrp's answer is fine. he wrote: I put my hand on her knee - she doesn't move I kiss her - she kisses back See? Now you do one. Just give 1-2 examples, please. Call me retarded if you want but at least answer my question. I want to hear from you how you've escalated with no IOI's (because they're shy etc.) just give some examples bro.
/r/askTRP29/08/18 06:55 PM
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seriously? So the only way you knew they'd come home with you is because they answered "yes" to bringing them home? You legit thought they'd probably say "no"? No making out before they were in your home??
/r/askTRP29/08/18 04:07 PM
0

where you just said, just tell them to "let me know when to stop" can you get them to agree to it? Like will they actively say "Okay!" or confirm. Or will it just go in one ear and out the other and they won't react to what you've just said?
/r/askTRP29/08/18 04:05 PM
0

All right give me an example of when you weren't getting strong positive IOI's and you did that and then the girl was super into it and finally gave really positive signs. Please be specific (well, as specific as you're comfortable sharing on here.) 1 or 2 examples should be fine.
/r/askTRP29/08/18 04:04 PM
7

Ignore. But take her advice. (But ignore.)
/r/askTRP29/08/18 02:30 PM
1

you're not doing it right. (But you did VERY clearly communicate a tone. it's just a different one from his - his doesn't incldue 'um', or a :'( which is why I read it differently. so actually you do communicate a style well just now, what I read in what you just wrote is just different from how I read his, that's all. :)
/r/askTRP27/08/18 08:43 PM
1

great, thanks! looking forward to it, if you have the time. don't forget to focus on the small interactions, like don't just say "I was flirty" if you can be more specific. but you might not remember.
/r/askTRP27/08/18 05:44 PM
1

Okay but compare what you just wrote: It makes it seems less stream of thought because of all the drifting pauses. It makes it sound like he’s unsure of what he’s saying, sleepy, apathetic, or just slow. When people type like that I picture them averting their gaze and mumbling. It's edited, well-written exposition like good documentation or a technical article. It doesn't sound like someone speaking. The impression his typing has on me is just rendering conversation. (You probably wouldn't do g…
/r/askTRP27/08/18 05:14 PM
2

I'm 6"1' [ ... ] I'd say in that environment anybody can do it... see? Plus: . and two that went in with me were so obviously uncomfortable just being there that they didn't manage to pull anything... so...not anyone can do it ;). Still, even if you were above average in at least that, it doesn't mean it's not a goldmine :). I think you should go ahead and write up a field report if you want. however if it's 5-6 years ago you might not remember everything. thanks for the details.
/r/askTRP27/08/18 04:53 PM
2

I agree! Go for it. I almost wanted to ask you a detailed report on the steps toward fclose that you followed :).
/r/askTRP27/08/18 04:50 PM
2

it's absolutely fine, no problem at all. keep it.
/r/askTRP27/08/18 04:50 PM
3

it's really not. it shows that it is a stream of thought and not like some super-edited thoughtful post or something.
/r/askTRP27/08/18 04:49 PM
5

No, he didn't need to be okay with it. But I can't imagine not opening my mouth and telling my hypothetical girlfriend (of 6 months!) that. how do you have a girlfriend for 6 months, but with 0 communication like that. I would have just told her on the spot, while it was happening - not broken up with her later in the night. plus even her friends were watching out for their relationship but he didn't even tell her friends that he's not okay with it. come on.
/r/askTRP27/08/18 03:53 PM
2

hey, thanks. this was an awesome write-up. could I ask how tall and how well-built/goodlooking you are? (I'm slightly above-average but not like top 10% of men or something.)
/r/askTRP27/08/18 03:52 PM
5

Did you ever have any negative reaction when they "realized" you weren't gay? Do you think they felt triumphant with you, like they "converted" you? (I.e. converted someone there.) Or was it obvious to them that you were straight from.the start. (From first eye contact with them or first time you touched them.)
/r/askTRP27/08/18 03:06 PM
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Lol at all these red pillers who've never been in a relationship. If you and she communicated it would be great. You completely ruined her birthday without giving any feedback to her. When her friends came up to you to ask if you were okay with it, why not say "no"? Why not tell her? Why not stop her? (In the sense of letting her know.) Hey OP, it doesn't happen this way but can't you imagine going to a lesbian club where all these cute girls are hugging you and touching you. And it's your birth…
/r/askTRP27/08/18 03:01 PM
1

the consequences of the accusation is that someone could serve a life in prison sentence for murder. It's an extremely serious crime, maybe the most serious crime in most societies. you are saying that "you can prove that you are not dead" but many falsely accused men can absolutely prove nothing like that took place, so it's a close analogy.
/r/TheRedPill26/08/18 06:55 PM
4

exactly. You know what else doesn't make sense? A false rape accusation where the accused didn't even ever once see the woman in his life! Giving that woman the maximum sentence for an accusation is about the same as giving me life in prison for claiming you murdered me. It's not a basis for a policy.
/r/TheRedPill26/08/18 07:40 AM
1

He didn't communicate clearly with her. Per the writeup: I think she honestly believes he belongs to her, even though she is no more than a plate to him, albeit a hot one. This is a conversation he should have had. However let's not victim-blame here.
/r/TheRedPill26/08/18 02:15 AM
2

Shhh, only if OP notices. If she doesn't realize, then she could just think he shares with all the guys at work and she could be like "But I don't wanna be just 'one of the guys'! I want him to notice me!!!!" Again it depends on if she notices him being a tryhard just for her. And it seems like she doesn't. Because she's asking if she's just being treated as one of the guys (shunned).
/r/askTRP26/08/18 01:49 AM
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no, that's absurd. How absurd? All right, let's say I claim to the judge that ArdAtak murdered me. I am called to the stand to testify: Prosecution: And what did ArdAtak do next? Me: He murdered me. Prosecution: And how did he do it? Me: I don't remember. I just remember that I stopped living. Prosecution: Did you ever recover? Me: No. Prosecution: So you never left the scene of the alleged crime? Me: No. Prosecution: No more questions. Defense: We would now like to introduce Exhibit A, taken mo…
/r/TheRedPill25/08/18 11:23 PM
2

OP obviously you're a single anecdote but you could help us validate red pill truths: -> Have you become attracted to him since he started doing that? (For example would you love if he asked you out. Have you dreamed about him. etc.) Don't know what your answer is but I'm definitely curious. Thanks.
/r/askTRP25/08/18 11:11 PM
1

What followed was magical. I don't know if it was the Acid trip, or it was me throwing the phone away, or all the above, but my connections genuinely increased with all my friends. Nature looked beautiful. The breathing textures caught between the warm sunlight. The snakes in the grass flowing, toads bouncing, chirping birds. I'm going to go with "the Acid trip" on that one.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/18 02:22 AM
1

Nice analysis. What does A&M mean?
/r/TheRedPill23/08/18 02:11 AM
1

(Disclaimer: just a beginner, maybe you know better than me) How is your third take away "Escalate as soon as possible" when it got you thrown out for no reason. No don't put your fingers in some girl on the dance floor.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/18 01:52 AM
1

The hard part is now you can't ever slip up. Hold frame till the end of your life :) Thanks for sharing.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/18 11:27 PM
1

Disclaimer: I'm just a RP beginner, don't take my analysis too seriously. Great write-up OP. Guys, notice something very important. This is how it didn't start: Earlier this year I had a project in metro city and was gonna stay there for a maybe a month or two. But since I was freshly outta oneitis and was seriously broken mentally and emotionally, I just concentrated on work. BUT THERE WAS THIS ONE GIRL and then a long vomit monologue about this ONE GIRL whether in a different department, at th…
/r/TheRedPill22/08/18 10:37 PM
2

Fantastic observation. What year do you think the age of marriage was over?
/r/askTRP21/08/18 11:45 PM
2

Could you list the ones you mean? I don't really feel like researching the list in depth, but curious what you remember off the top of your head.
/r/askTRP21/08/18 02:59 PM
3

Just be careful because this is an easy route to an assault charge if it goes the wrong way. It's literally rape because for some reason feminists think that what she says trumps what she does and likes. I don't have a fantastic solution but I think communication helps: just have her say the words, OK you can do whatever from now on, giving you blanket permission for whatever. But those are her WORDS. It doesn't mean you get to (insert some unexpected violent aggressive and mean action in a nons…
/r/askTRP20/08/18 01:36 AM
40

Yeah I lost it at "Men don’t want brains because we have brains." That line was gold.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/18 08:36 PM
1

thanks, it's why I asked. there's a reason you (and I) had an instinct to do this stuff, even if it's in a reversed sense but this is just not the right approach as you and everyone else here has just confirmed. I'm just going to completely drop it as a subject.
/r/askTRP12/08/18 06:50 PM
1

just to collect evidence have you ever fucked any girl that you did that with. (yes or no.) I've already decided that the correct answer is what you just said ("almost never because there's little to gain") so I'm not going to do it even if your answer is yes, you've fucked girls where you did what you just said ("I accuse her of being a rapist and promising not to rape me."). for science I'd just like to know if fucking ever happened, promise not to draw any deep conclusions from it. yes or no?
/r/askTRP12/08/18 06:11 PM
1

Thanks for all this info :) Bottom line is your advice matches everyone else's.
/r/askTRP12/08/18 06:57 AM
1

The woods thing was incidental. We were just walking around. I know it's just one data point but for your detailed roofie example (which I won't be following - I will instead follow the advice given by everyone else) did you have sex with any of those girls? (Yes or no.)
/r/askTRP11/08/18 11:12 PM
1

When is their trip? I bet you they don't fuck / are just friends. You have ONLY your speculation. Right now they're orbiting each other. When is their trip so I can follow up and ask you if they did it?
/r/askTRP11/08/18 09:44 PM
1

Well, once I genuinely wanted to know if a tinder girl was psycho, so I asked her if she's ever been raped, with the intention of ending the date if she easily said "yes" without hesitation. (Because I thought she would just accuse me of same after consensual sex etc.) It was a test by me. (Of course if she said something like that is private or reacted negatively I would also think she passed - I just wanted to make sure she didn't throw it around lightly, like the worst answer would be a breez…
/r/askTRP11/08/18 09:36 PM
1

Fantastic advice, this is what I was looking for. That said are there positive steps I can actively do? (Social proof is one of them. If someone greets me with a smile because they know me, that is hugely non-aberrant.) Got any positive suggestions? Maybe starting with a positive version of aberrant? :)
/r/askTRP11/08/18 09:20 PM
1

So technically they never got together. "Time kills all deals." What makes you SO sure that when they travel together, they'll sleep together? Maybe your instincts are completely right and they'll never sleep together. The time to write your questions is after they ever fuck, not before. Maybe he has 0 chance despite whatever she says or writes.
/r/askTRP11/08/18 09:12 PM
1

How do you know they didn't do anything else (like kiss)? Did you ask him? If he fucked 6 girls while his logistics were "at a hostel" then he knows how to kiss someone without you knowing about it.
/r/askTRP11/08/18 09:01 PM
2

OK. Can you suggest a specific action if, for example, on a first tinder date a girl and I are walking through some secluded woods? I mean there are literally guys are straight-up going to suddenly and unexpectedly lunge at them and make them have to fight them off and barely get away (this actually happens, it's happened to women's friends), so if I am just straight-up not going to do that is there a good way to (sub)communicate this?
/r/askTRP11/08/18 08:52 PM
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He's dyslexic? maybe she reads to him at the library.
/r/askTRP09/08/18 10:57 AM
1

oh, in the original write-up you can still choose just from that decile. It's not like you got paired with ONE person or something. they even said "There would be total discretion and let's say special separate internet dating sites set up for each group matching." I know it was unclear but the OP didn't write about 1 specific person - that's what they meant by discretion. So on that basis it seems your criticism doesn't apply and the 10's would be happy. they would just have to choose the right…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 08:48 AM
0

Why would the top decile be miserable?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 10:30 PM
76

How to Fuck 9s by holding in your farts that thread would have these comments: Comment 1: this is so beta. stop trying to please women, and just do whatever the fuck you want to. Comment 2: Fart in her face Comment 3: yeah be her fart tampon faggot Comment 4: Lol those protein farts. solid advice. will try it. Comment 5: Side-bar worthy Comment 6: if she turns her nose up says something or tries to leave, is that a shit test though?
/r/TheRedPill06/08/18 08:41 AM
1

holy shit this is absolutely amazing. Obviously they didn't control for a few different factors, for example an absolutely repulsive beast who 0 people ever showed an interest in might be thrilled to have found a guy willing to be in the same county as her for a prolonged period of time, let alone be and stay married to her, and she might judge their marriage 10/10 on that basis alone. Whereas someone who is born looking like a supermodel with a super attractive personality might have tons of in…
/r/askTRP04/08/18 12:26 PM
1

wait were you being sarcastic when you wrote "I guess you're not acquainted with the idea that a body count above 10 destroys a woman's ability to pair-bond (permanently)" sorry it's hard to tell. I realize that AWALT but there are certainly 50-year marriages where both men and women have tiny n-counts (like < 5). I'm curious what makes you say that a man genuinely can still be in that situation (not cheat for 50 years) with a high n-count, but a woman, no. if you were being serious.
/r/askTRP03/08/18 06:55 AM
1

No, I'm not acquainted with that idea. Does it also destroy a man's ability to pair-bond permanently? (genuine question)
/r/askTRP03/08/18 04:58 AM
2

Also let’s not fool ourselves, any attractive female over 25 will have at least 10 exactly, and yet the guy I replied to said "sub 10". insane standards. you might as well ask for a virgin. we're literally talking 1-3 guys per year at that point. That is not "frequent casual sex" or "destructive behavior.
/r/askTRP02/08/18 10:32 PM
3

low body count (sub 10) Guy said he's 31, let's make her 27 and sub 10 means 9. You want her to have had or tried dating 1 person every 14 months. To me thaf says she is overweight and has terrible breath so that she exudes a physical stench. How would anyone have sex with just 8 people in their adult life. Here let me make fun of you: An n count of 9???? How is that different from having a calendar with a new guy off tinder coming over at 8 pm 11 pm and 2 am every night, day in day out for 6 co…
/r/askTRP02/08/18 10:07 PM
6

that's true but if you're getting laid a lot you can trace those back to the very first time you saw them or they saw you, though I guess maybe you won't remember. You know I've heard conflicting stuff here about stoic game and smiling game. I should fucking A/B test that shit when I go out (today no smiles!! no smiles!!) vs (smile at everyone, it'll make you happy). The second definitely has girls joining me right away. But is it girls I can take home? soo many questions haha.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/18 06:02 AM
1

So many chicks will walk by me. I will smile or smirk and I will hear them say wow he’s hot. Or they will straight up tell me they love my smile. is this something you're mentioning in that it leads to sex with them (directly or indirectly) as TRP is sexual strategy? (Maybe you'll say yes, I can see it happening: after you hear them say he's hot, you come up with some reason to go talk to them then or later, you end up with rapport and fucking, etc. whatever. or their friend who you heard them s…
/r/TheRedPill29/07/18 05:27 AM
1

thanks bro the more detailed description you just gave is exactly what I was asking for the first time with the context and dialogue, sorry about laughing at you. You are one smooth motherfucker! Thanks for the details, read and retained.
/r/askTRP27/07/18 04:46 AM
0

Wait wait wait so until that moment they have NO idea they will be fucking in a tent? Just doesn't come up?? And in 0% of the time do they say nononono I am not going in there and just not go in with you? This is amazing. I never would have thought these logistics are possible.
/r/askTRP27/07/18 04:02 AM
1

haha, wait this is hilarious. You have a TENT. hahahahaaaa. Okay listen how the FUCK do you let them know this. Quote your exact words / context where you let them know that they'll be having to ... ahahaaa - I am laughing so hard - fuck you in a tent due to your shit logistics. ahahaaaaa. sorry. Ahem. So please quote the dialogue around dropping the -- haha -- tent-bomb. rofl.
/r/askTRP27/07/18 03:25 AM
2

Thanks! That's a no to my question. (As opposed to if you said, actually now that h mention it...) I vote with the others to take her back, for science :) and let us know what happens...
/r/askTRP26/07/18 11:11 PM
-1

OP, could she have had a fling that really (like legit) wasn't her fault, as in, like, she was saying she has a boyfriend and NO but the other guy's game was just waaaaaaaaaaay tooo strong from her, and after like 17 no's and a little wine he outgamed her No? We all know this is possible but could this have happened? And that is why she wrote she was not sure. Maybe it was just a kiss or something. because that's how it reads to me given how great things were and then what happened. could it leg…
/r/askTRP26/07/18 09:04 AM
1

thx
/r/askTRP26/07/18 09:02 AM
1

got it
/r/askTRP26/07/18 09:02 AM
1

lol dude you're on the TRP advice forum I need to know your creds, yes it matters that you fucked lolol. in this thread someone else is calling me an orbiter (no if you're fucking someone you're not her orbiter come on). so thanks for the clarification. I'm just gonna go all out and try to fclose if not forget about anyone on the back burner and pick up other chicks. thanks for all the insights.
/r/askTRP26/07/18 06:20 AM
1

wow all right this is a definitional thing. I really thought orbiters were friendzoned guys, you know who I mean, the people she thinks of like a brother or calls her gay best friend. This is a terminology issue. I can't imagine a girl would send someone nudes who she didn't want to sleep with but I guess you know better lol. thanks for the clarification. (though I'm not sure everyone would agree with you.)
/r/askTRP26/07/18 06:17 AM
1

when you say "(any kind of sex)" can you elaborate? For example would you include a fully nude snap from her? How about detailed discussion of her sexual fantasy in explicity detail? Those are "any kind of sex" in the sense that they're kind of like cyber sex. On the other hand maybe any kind of sex = she touches your genitals or anus or you touch her genitals or anus. (sorry to be crude), not even heavy petting over clothing counts. curious what you meant though I do follow your reasoning I thi…
/r/askTRP26/07/18 05:13 AM
1

yes this is exactly what I'm asking. you still have a chance fucking her right? (you didn't exactly say this has happened to you in the past, you're using a current example). this is my question. Also I imagine based on how you just wrote that when you went out already, you didn't sleep together yet, can you confirm. thanks.
/r/askTRP26/07/18 05:09 AM
1

okay and as far as calendar time? the 3 must happen within max how long? Can it take weeks (I don't see why not, if you have other people and things you're busy with). sorry obviously there are no hard and fast rules but then again interested in knowing what works for other people.
/r/askTRP25/07/18 03:27 PM
1

Thanks for the clear advice. What threw me for a loop is that a friend says I next too soon, and it is true that I had good sexual relationships where the logistics took a while to set up. (Weeks, or maybe even months, I don't remember.) How many dates do you think it should take before sex happens.
/r/askTRP25/07/18 02:07 PM
1

Man context matters, I am not going to accept that for 1) girls I'm talking with, with flirtatious teasing banter on tinder and expect to meet soon 2) girls I've kissed. Come on girls do not kiss their orbiters with lips and tongue! So while I don't accept the classification I'll accept your suggestion.
/r/askTRP25/07/18 02:03 PM
1

If she doesn't like me why does she answer eagerly? Why not just a word or two or ghost me, not respond to flirtation etc. But in this thread exacty ZERO people mention onboarding a plate this way so I guess I'm wasting my time! Anyway I have abundance so who cares.
/r/askTRP25/07/18 01:02 PM
1

You can't have oneitis for four different women you message once per week and hardly think about. I didn't think orbiters applied to someone you flirt with, i thought that's a friendzone thing. I don't do shit for these women (favors etc). Still, your perspective is noted. And I haven't received any replies to the contrary.
/r/askTRP25/07/18 12:56 PM
1

All right, so what do you call someone if you make out, tease and flirt constantly, then 6 months later fuck. For those 6 months they're what? Also I am asking if this happens. I can tell you there were tinder girls I talked to for weeks via tinder before meeting, amd then fucked, so that is not what I'm talking about. (Because I hadn't even met them yet.) I mean when there is a sexual vibe, making out, etc.
/r/askTRP25/07/18 11:55 AM
1

Obviously. I am talking if they have some excuse not to go out. If they still answer right away can u still hit them up every week or two as long as they're responsive? Or does that never happen. This is what I mean about whether there is an on ramp.
/r/askTRP25/07/18 11:53 AM
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It's called "ask trp". Maybe u guys will be full of stories of girls that would finally meet up and fuck after weeks of trying to seek validation via text and not getting it. the fuck do I knoe. If u don't wanna help a newb stop answering asktrp. Btw I am not talking about girls who friendzones me or sth, talkikg about flirty teasing banter, after making out etc.
/r/askTRP25/07/18 11:51 AM
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Yours is vote 2 for "no, there's no onramp to plate". That's fine bro. So I ghost them even if they respond right away to any text, flirt back via text, etc. (For people I've already met many weeks ago.)
/r/askTRP25/07/18 07:19 AM
-1

Okay, that's a vote for "no", there's no onramp to plate.
/r/askTRP25/07/18 07:16 AM
2

I know but this attitude, although false, is somehow very sexually attractive. It gets you laid. Women eat it up. but it's about the attitude - like you I don't like seeing it put into words like this.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/18 04:38 PM
1

Again, where are the stories of someone recording and then using the recording? Maybe if you had been recording you would have verbally asked for consent (you know, for the tape) and then when she refused to give it, you would have kicked her out. And no false accusation. I don' know if that is what happens, but for some reason I haven't seen a single story of someone actually successfully using a recording - for anything. Not in court. Not before an administrative body at school. Not the HR dep…
/r/TheRedPill23/07/18 04:33 PM
8

I'm sorry, the blue pill me is coming out SO strong. What you wrote is just NOT TRUE. Instead the truth is: Women are excellent at managing social relationships; seeing trends; many marketing and creative activities; also all the same things guys can learn from editing to putting up drywall (it's not that hard.) the list just goes on and on and on and on. I guess it might be true that it's sexually attractive if we TREAT them as though they have nothing to give, or give them a challenge where th…
/r/TheRedPill23/07/18 03:16 AM
1

all right I'll take your memory of any of them. I mean SPECIFICALLY about using a recording either in court or just telling/showing the girl or anyone else that "hey I have this recording". Can you remember anything like that? It's okay if its not an exact memory just tell me any of the cases that you recall.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/18 02:37 AM
-1

This is why I have a hidden camera in every room going into a near inaccessible cloud, the threat is all too real for men. you're not the only one - lots of men around here (there are 278,233 subscribers to this subreddit, 0.1% of them = 278) advocate recording their sexual encounters against false rape accusations. So out of those, let's say, 278 -- where are the false rape accusations? You don't think those men would be on this forum the DAY after needing to use their secret recordings to exon…
/r/TheRedPill23/07/18 02:19 AM
3

Join a coed sport Try the oldest, most noble coed sport in history: intercourse. Just kidding. Try a dance class ;).
/r/askTRP22/07/18 02:41 AM
2

the line is whether they do anything for you, ever. it's quid pro quo, bro. you do people favors who do their part. make it easy for them, instruct them on minor shit you make up for them. if they won't do their part why should you do anything for them? if they ignore your minor throwaway requests then you ignore their existence.
/r/askTRP21/07/18 10:55 PM
2

my answers are: physical proximity not leaving first (such as making an excuse to leave you) returning your touches (as opposed to shying away) if you pull away or do something else she comes back up to you. NOT an example of nonverbal consent: getting on her knees and sucking your dick while naked in your apartment. (Aziz Ansari case.)
/r/askTRP19/07/18 08:17 PM
1

no, in my estimation she wouldn't have followed me to my place either. However I believe that the other response was spot-on, because I do believe she would have followed me to anywhere else, which would have been a good place to further escalate. I was just confused why she would leave the venue with me and make out, if she wasn't actually wanting to go home with me. I'm pretty sure that, as I played it, she would not have followed me to my place either. it's not about my place or hers. the oth…
/r/askTRP19/07/18 01:15 AM
3

bro, this is EXACTLY what I needed to hear. Thank you! Yep, she was fully compliant and would have followed me to any nearby location I suggested. I could see it working straightforward. So I think this is the correct advice, will use next time- thanks.
/r/askTRP19/07/18 01:10 AM
1

I've read specific reports here about people who were accused of rape after the woman's infidelity was found out. I wanted to know if this is what you were referring to. anyway this thread is way too deep who cares what an off-hand remark by you was about
/r/askTRP17/07/18 12:39 AM
1

Fine u say that they choose to get together with their colleagues that they work with and then...accuse them of rape?
/r/askTRP16/07/18 09:57 PM
1

anyway long story short ignore the other guy(s). for all you know he's just giving her validation over text - she's leading him on. after all what's there to text about besides logistics? you and she might have something more than they do.
/r/askTRP16/07/18 02:09 PM
1

did you consider that she might be in a serious, monogamous, committed relationship and hiding this from you for your benefit? If so I don't think you really want to find out. if there's some guy who'd be super mad to find out about you, do you want to find out about him? let her hide her shit.
/r/askTRP16/07/18 01:27 PM
1

explain
/r/askTRP16/07/18 01:14 PM
2

the "we're not having sex" line is different - it means "I'm thinking about having sex. I want to have sex." plus maybe some plausible deniability, safety, etc. not talking about that at all. I'm talking specifically about "She insists it’s not a date" which is what OP said.
/r/askTRP15/07/18 02:49 PM
1

Straight-up: has anyone here ever fucked someone who met them while insisting it's not a date? I haven't.
/r/askTRP15/07/18 12:35 PM
2

thanks so much for these links, ahhh there's the stuff :D This is what I expected from your original 3 links but then felt tricked because your first 3 links didn't say this. (However, still I think your compassiononline link doesn't fit with the others because it is about UBI for everyone, not just for women.) So you did give me the links for people who are advocating it just for woman. But I don't think any of these would ever get any amount of traction. :) I mean can you imagine it being intr…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/18 11:28 PM
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bro you said "Some feminist organisation recently submitted a proposal for universal income...for women only" and then you gave 3 links to back that statement none of which say that. Maybe it's true that some feminist organisation did submit a proposal for universal income for women only - if so I'd like a link to it. if not, then your summary stating so goes a bit too far, sorry.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/18 12:45 PM
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your links totally don't say what you just said. Where does it say "for women only"? I think that you misunderstand it! Your links are saying UBI would be great for women. (That's the group they focus on.) It would be like if I said UBI would be great for people who are wheelchair-bound. That doesn't mean I'm arguing it should just go to them. Or if I said stricter emissions standards would be great for people for asthma. Not the way you thought they mean it. that's the whole point of "universal…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/18 10:53 AM
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ok thanks
/r/askTRP13/07/18 10:19 AM
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that is weird, thanks for the info. by the way could I ask why you're a TRP reader? this place is mostly for men discussing their sexual strategy (what women want.) what do you find interesting about it?
/r/askTRP13/07/18 01:40 AM
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in this story how did the jacked guy find out about OP? (to the point of identifying him in his workplace parking lot.)
/r/TheRedPill13/07/18 01:38 AM
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it sounds like you're the woman in the situation you describe? So, did you and the guy you mention ever fuck? I predict: no. You dated for a while but never got as far as sleeping together. correct me if I'm wrong though!
/r/askTRP13/07/18 12:55 AM
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this is an interesting perspective. An additional problem is that by definition "picking up on her rules" means entering her frame. still you gotta admit, OP had this down pretty tight until he started acting irrationally. he also quotes abundance mentality as "She flaked on me the first date, but I wasn't too worried because I was also talking to 4 other girls that worked there". "talking" isn't abundance. Actually fucking plates is. He actually should have nexted her after she flaked on a date…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/18 10:12 AM
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Except that the ONLY reason that OP "loved" this job WORKING AT A FUCKING GROCERY STORE is cuz of all the chicks. The job is worthless. It's not a "career". It's working at a grocery store, come on. He got what he wanted. But he was not picking up on the Girl's rules, which is NOT to bring it into work. So simple. She said, don't do it at work. What did he do? Come into work unannounced to "surprise" her. Yes, this is stalker shit. You don't do it. OP should not have surprised her at work. In fa…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/18 09:36 PM
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thanks for these answers. the more you write the more clearly you are firmly red pill. you write "I'm not a prize, I dumpster dive. I'd prefer not to, but I do." but your confidence and being alpha is enough. Basically even though you're insisting that you're beta, you haven't listed anything beta whatsoever. I don't see anything in any of your posts or these answers that couldn't be written on /r/theredpill. sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 08:45 PM
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The distinction is because in this scenario you are getting them, and they are getting you. But they don't all need to own the room - just some of them. But you always own the room. You're alpha. you decide the flow of conversation. you lead the interaction. this gets the girl. the most memorable ones might, but the remaining ones don't - but still got you. This proves the fundamental red pill truth, with yourself as an example. (Granted this is 1 example. The red pill has 275,423 more readers w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 07:27 PM
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I didn't ask about "hot women" who "also project confidence and own rooms". I asked about the women you fuck. Are they owning the room, the way you are? I bet the answer is no, but they do gravitate toward you. however if I have the facts wrong go ahead and tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 07:03 PM
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you said "own the room". Do the girls you fuck "own the room"? No. Because you're the man. A 100% red pilled man. (This is not an insult - your advice is great and spot on. It's just completely red pill.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 06:46 PM
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just be social, own the room, control the pace of conversation your entire advice is red pill as fuck, and here you just admitted it. 100% red pill advice, from the first worst to the last. great advice - but nothing blue about it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 06:16 PM
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Jesus Christ, you managed to be ageist, sexist, and racist in 18 words.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 05:43 PM
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so is playing the guitar, and you don't see TRP recommending that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 02:09 PM
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due to hypergamy it is pretty much impossible for an average guy to bang ANYONE - and now you're asking how to do it while not only being, but also acting unattractive? (Alpha behavior = attractive.) This is literally impossible. Not going to happen. if being average looking were enough,why would TRP advise men to spend so much time in the gym (lift)? Because it's so much fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 01:38 PM
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I'll think about it. what you just said is true even if you take out the words nigger and black - and add the word ex-con and illiterate. (That means it's not racist anymore, just socioeconomic.)
/r/TheRedPill05/07/18 03:19 PM
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I understand this that's why I said you need to rephrase it. we're on a "feminists enjoy rape fantasies" thread so considering black men, you can say the same thing two ways: -> "Women don't want some nigger Tyrone raping them. They want to feel uncontrollable lust from a man who they find fancy." You see how this is racist though. you can say the same thing in a different way. what you probably mean is "ex-con" or felon in the example I came up with. I'm not arguing about what you're saying jus…
/r/TheRedPill05/07/18 02:40 PM
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Yo can u quit this racism on TRP - I'm not here to be part of a "hate group." Just rephrase ur point.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/18 09:51 AM
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on the flip side it is highly likely that you might get some specific actionable suggestion you didn't think of. not to speak in cliches, there are more "jacked", more Vice President, more alpha people than you on TRP and a lot of them have had to deal with worse crazies. so just try to be objective and you can add in the beginning your emotional state. (but don't write walls and walls of text.) a lot of people have been there. hope to see the post (under a throwaway if you want)
/r/TheRedPill04/07/18 11:01 AM
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Do you often end up sleeping with women you go on dates with?
/r/askTRP03/07/18 03:03 PM
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Scientifically speaking there is no other reason she could have deactivated her account than the fact that you didn't get jealous. We're men of science here. Case closed.
/r/askTRP03/07/18 02:53 PM
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Please write this up in detail under a separate post. We need to know, spare nothing. Maybe do it under a new anonymous account and throw in some red herrings so anyone from real life won't think it's them This shit is serious and we need to know what happens/WILL happen Thanks, bro
/r/TheRedPill03/07/18 02:39 PM
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Beginner here, this is theory (based on my reading): You want to challenge women, but make it easy enough for them to pass. (It's not like a woman shittesting a man, where they're really trying to see if you're tough) I mean I guess if you have standards you can genuinely test then and throw them hard challenges to see if they meet your standards. But this will be too high sometimes. Instead try challenging them by teasing them with challenges you KNOW they can beat. It'll give them a sense of s…
/r/askTRP03/07/18 02:33 PM
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this is super good. thanks.
/r/askTRP02/07/18 05:14 PM
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why is this thread so goddamn awful.
/r/askTRP02/07/18 09:03 AM
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be pornographic, but not gross or crass the fuck does that mean? quote a sentence.
/r/askTRP02/07/18 09:02 AM
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OP just FYI the above is a joke (based on a reddit meme). don't say this. Guys, you have to add a sarcasm tag because the reality is just as surprising as the above (which is a joke)
/r/askTRP02/07/18 09:01 AM
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we're both flatmates renting from an owner, I wouldn't say she's "helping pay the bills". if she moved out someone else would move in there, same for me. I want more information about why you, and everyone else, is so adamant that this is a very hard NO.
/r/askTRP29/06/18 07:42 PM
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That is interesting. but if I practice good abundance and give her very little attention, isn't this a good exercise for me?
/r/askTRP29/06/18 07:41 PM
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thanks for this but when there is a specific question that has everyone give a very simple, very direct, black and white answer, I want to understand where that is coming from. I appreciate what you say about judgment but I would also like to know what consequences I'm judging here!
/r/askTRP29/06/18 07:39 PM
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she's had guys over and is chill, so if we communicate about it, then I would just bring girls over to my room when I want and she brings guys over to her room when she wants (my thinking goes), if we're all cool and don't think we have something more than benefits. we've gone out kind of on dates. regarding "Are you prepared to walk away from your apartment at a moment's notice if things don't go your way? You do know that in most jurisdictions, she can walk into a family court judge, declare t…
/r/askTRP29/06/18 07:38 PM
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I've known for a long time that Theranos was a fraud but it's not because Holmes is a woman. I'll name another fraud company, uBeam. The science doesn't work, it's fraudulent. But it's not fraudulent because it's headed by a woman.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/18 07:20 PM
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thanks. all right, what was the specific title you're referring to? :) if you found it funny maybe I'll read it for laughs anyway :)
/r/askTRP27/06/18 08:15 AM
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I read models, thanks. Based on the street creds you mentioned I'm going to not go with the strategy of reading women's romance novels. Everything I've read says women don't know what they want. I think they can't really put their finger on it. your recommendation of romantic comedy books is also just kind of lukewarm. Great if you enjoy it but I'm not going to go that route. still, thanks for your feedback.
/r/askTRP27/06/18 06:52 AM
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read a romantic comedy novel. never heard of that. I Googled this and got a list of books, but - could you give your reasoning for why you don't just say "romance novel"? what does it being comedy add? (Romance novel is itself a genre.) These girls are literally telling us what they find attractive. Ignore the parts about a him being a billionaire isn't this a contradiction? If they find a cop hot, why would I ignore that he's a cop (for example)? Ok hit me with the downvotes, I can take it. Wel…
/r/askTRP27/06/18 03:21 AM
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so text (r/the red pill) is the only medium that anyone can use to learn and no film or book can capture any part of the lessons on this web site
/r/askTRP26/06/18 04:43 PM
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Yeah, and comedians who steal other people jokes aren't that good. But they still get laughs and audiences. game is also part of it, and yeah, you can steal other people's lines. but what do I know, maybe you're right. I'm not that experienced.
/r/askTRP26/06/18 04:23 PM
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With all respect, and I'm just a beginner, but is it possible that you are reading more into it than their true level of enthusiasm for you? It's just flirting. “anything for you, I’m all yours” If you were twenty-four and society told you we'll give you five hundred thousand if you get your lady boss to touch you once, would you want to know if you could do it? Honestly, I'd like to know. Now, I know society isn't set up that way but you have to at least know. (I mean that these women are very …
/r/TheRedPill26/06/18 07:54 AM
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thanks for all of this! take care
/r/askTRP25/06/18 07:07 AM
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Could you link the others? By the way in no way were they "beating the shit out of me" (except I guess literally speaking one pushed me and her friend punched me lightly). It didn't make me fearful (at the level that it was) even a tiny little bit - and they weren't really hurting me or something.
/r/askTRP25/06/18 03:58 AM
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thanks, this was interesting. one last question: is hookup culture such that normally you have sex with a girl and never see her again? (once you've had good sex how common is it for her to come back just for sex).
/r/askTRP24/06/18 10:15 PM
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wow this was super surprising. Thanks so much for these. by kiss you mean a proper make-out with tongue, yeah? (at least briefly) - not like a peck on the lips or something that might be at the end of the first date if they move slowly but want to get the technical kiss in via a peck?
/r/askTRP24/06/18 09:12 PM
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This is actually gold, thanks. (yeah I mean who you didn't know before.) I have experience kissing girls who didn't come back to mine or hers - how does this often happen to you? For the 20 you had sex with, is it out of 25 you kissed (5 you kissed who didn't go home with you), or is it more like out of 50, (another 30 who let you go as far as a kiss but not sex?) thanks a lot for the pointers btw.
/r/askTRP24/06/18 08:44 PM
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In the past 2 years how many girls have you picked up at a bar or club and brought home (to yours or hers) that night and fuckd? How do you do it? (By the way this is asktrp)
/r/askTRP24/06/18 05:59 PM
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Except that the red pill is dedicated to male sexual strategy.
/r/askTRP24/06/18 04:25 PM
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Meh live and learn. ( U don't sound like u pick up girls at a club and bring them home though...obviously some people do and I think some of them are stoics who aren't even dancing.)
/r/askTRP24/06/18 04:22 PM
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Interesting but actually I did the experiment - though just once. Girls will go up to me and physically touch me to open. (In that club context)
/r/askTRP24/06/18 04:19 PM
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This is an excellent point, and in fact I didn't: I just left when she didn't drop what she was doing. As for the first part, I thought this is just her way of getting my attention, which is fine - I didn't even notice her and would have walked out of there. Better to have a girl who's into me and wants me to fuck her (maybe? I don't actually know what happens after) Instead of it being "her game" maybe it could be "our game." Just curious how it might work. I'm not gonna blame a hot chick for o…
/r/askTRP24/06/18 04:15 PM
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Why do you read the red pill?
/r/askTRP24/06/18 02:12 PM
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Having a mission external to women, pursuing that, and being okay with the occasional girl or girls becoming part of your life, or not, and accepting that, is a totally valid, authentic perspective a heterosexual male can have Why would reading the red pill be part of that though?
/r/askTRP24/06/18 02:11 PM
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No, they didn't seem drunk or high at all. This is just what their game was. It wasn't exactly violent, if in the next moment the woman who wanted my attention had turned friendly with me I wouldn't have considered it a bad pick-up tactic by her: I just didn't know how to keep playing her game. Stoic is emotionless, not reacting to things. A rock.
/r/askTRP24/06/18 01:20 PM
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Thanks. So last night after a party I stopped by a club briefly and did this on my way home. I just leaned on the rails not even dancing (normally I dance very well but this time didn't even nod my head to acknowledge the beat - like everyone else in the place is dancing but I'm just part of the furniture.) I looked at the time on my phone since this was an experiment and I wanted to see how long I would have to stand there. Within ONE MINUTE (took my phone out of my pocket after to check, and i…
/r/askTRP24/06/18 12:03 PM
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Just because you ignore calculus doesn't mean it goes away. but it kind of does. (I'll grant your exceptions: "occasionally revealing your lack of knowledge to other guys without even realizing it when talking about technical matters, and having worse overall intuition on problem solving") If you just "ignore women" it's not the same at all! except if you're gay. then you can pretty much start ignoring them if you want (I imagine). but for straight guys, if you start ignoring them you don't just…
/r/askTRP24/06/18 03:26 AM
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I get this but I'm 5"11 and with attention, good-looking (especially, good facial aesthetics). So if I can play their game I'll try it. Actually I am at a house party for the past 5 hours and (for the first time) tried this stoic game. It's working really reallt well!!! No time to explain, i'm sitting down for a min as though I'm texting ;)
/r/askTRP24/06/18 12:29 AM
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of course you have to show some emotion and laugh and joke and escalate but don’t always be too friendly. Find a balance. I am kind of curious where that balance is. (I think I might to be too friendly.) I guess it's hard for you to describe via text though! I dunno, like, what % of the time are you smiling/laughing? (For me it's like 100% of the time, except when I first show up and before I forgot to put on a 'mask' of having extreme amounts of fun - but this 100% which seems too much)...
/r/askTRP23/06/18 04:04 PM
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I know what you mean but "I want a girl in my bed" is an objective outcome. "How do I get a girl in my bed" -- well don't be needy, women can smell that. The way to achieve this outcome is by being outcome independent on any given night out with anyone. But there it is: an outcome. after a few days/weeks/months/years of bettering yourself and being outcome independent you'll achieve the outcome.
/r/askTRP23/06/18 03:39 PM
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thanks, this was an interesting point. Yep, I bet you're right and they're quite social, and I guess just a bit introspective. I guess I'll just have to try their thing and see if it works for me :) thanks for your thoughts.
/r/askTRP23/06/18 09:02 AM
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that is an interesting perspective - I didn't even think they might be introverted or reserved. (Because then why would they be out at a club?) They're not looking down at the floor or anything. instead I thought they had a particular way of doing things and I wondered what it is. I thought I might try playing their version of the game. (I don't look that different from them - some have a tighter haircut.) Do you think if it's not the natural way I approach things, I should try their way? (Basic…
/r/askTRP23/06/18 06:55 AM
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yeah I’ve seen cases like my buddy in college who would just stand on the staircase landing balcony every party looking bored and drinking beers. yep, this is what I was asking about. More times then not a girl would open him talk for a bit and they’d soon make their way upstairs. this is what I was also asking about. so you're saying probably if I watched these built-like-a-tank, or model-looking guys long enough, I would see a girl open them and they might soon leave together? (Or at least thi…
/r/askTRP23/06/18 06:18 AM
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I didn't ask what you "can" do! I asked what OP does. Please note that although you says " You are not a ... robot or pet rock" actually OP says: I act stoic as fuck and women go all out and say that I’m a rock and that they don’t know how I’m so emotionless and still-faced. so while you might be giving an accurate representation of what TRP recommends, in fact OP says he acts emotionless and still-faced. so I'm curious about OP's game - not general advice. how does it work for him? Please note …
/r/askTRP23/06/18 06:15 AM
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oh okay. Okay I'll try that. From their physical stance I would expect their answer is to literally ignore the question or say "Go away" or something rude. They do not have an open attitude or physical body language. I am curious what in actual practice this results in. are they fucking girls from these clubs? I am talking about (rating scale) 8/10 or 9/10 guys. (I guess - I can't really say since I'm not a woman.) what are the dynamics? I guess I'll never know.
/r/askTRP23/06/18 05:29 AM
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Let me put it to you with these questions (real questions! not rhetorical - I want to learn more about your behavior): Do you laugh if she says a funny joke? Do you joke back? You mentioned you will never act thirsty: if you see a girl you like will you go up to her physically? (For comparison, I, who am not "stoic" in this sense, usually would do something like this: I will visibly be open with many people, genuinely making it so she can see this -- i.e. so I don't just pop up out of nowhere in…
/r/askTRP23/06/18 05:27 AM
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So it's like they're on display, and a girl who wants them just has to strut in front of them and if she's hot enough then....what's step 2 here? What do you think these guys do next? If you've been warm and outgoing and friendly and touchy with everyone step 2 is obvious: you start dancing with her, touch her hips, smile and look here in the eyes and don't break your gaze, etc. But do these stoic men do the same thing? Or is their step two different?
/r/askTRP23/06/18 05:20 AM
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Hey OP! Are you like the people I ask about here -- https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/8t75vs/what_is_with_hot_guys_standing_around_dance_floor/ ? For example if you go out are you also still stoic? (Like, you don't visibly have a lot of fun, dance, etc, you're more likely to stand there motionless?) If so, can you walk through EXACTLY how this turns into an approach and picking any woman up and into something sexual? (Please be exact, such as whether they come up to you or you to them). I…
/r/askTRP23/06/18 05:15 AM
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"Hey" "? Yes?" "How are you doing?" "Fine, what's up" "Oh nothing. So, uh. Listen my friends who are experts in the fine arts of the reality of the world, you know if you like remove the matrix and see things. I'm not explaining myself right. So like if you had an epiphany and -- let's say you're God, and. Wait let me try again. So, like, what do you do just stand there like a statue then what happens? Okay you know what sorry to bother you I'm going to go now." "--- No no wait!!! I get it, you …
/r/askTRP23/06/18 05:04 AM
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Oh, I thought it was obvious: I'm asking for the purposes of whether I should be doing the same thing! (Just standing around acting stoic). Like, is this part of some game? They don't even look like they're having fun. I just want to know what the m.o. is there. I do not think that they're gay. I've updated the post to make this clearer.
/r/askTRP23/06/18 03:59 AM
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Ah yes the club where we spend hours every week reading about, talking about, and practicing on that thing that isn't very important. You know what isn't as important as it pretends it is? High-school calculus. You know how you know it's not as important as you think it is? Because if you ignore it goes away forever (if you're not a rocket scientist.) You don't need it. You can't just ignore women and they go away, because you're a man and want them in your life. Yes they are important to us. Th…
/r/askTRP23/06/18 03:22 AM
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35yo [...] want to have a large family (at least 7-8 kids total) before I hit 40. dude it takes 9 months each
/r/askTRP22/06/18 01:37 AM
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I am just curious why you don't think he was literally raping? (Attacking, groping, ignoring no's). Many women respond to that by freezing up, fearing further violence. Is it because they could leave his office/hotel/wherever? I mean you say there is such a thing as rape but you also seem very sure he didn't do that thing. Why not?
/r/askTRP21/06/18 09:00 PM
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Well it's obvious we can't use this case to make any arguments about more normal forms of manipulation or brainwashing, i.e. anything you or I could be accused of doing. This is extreme.
/r/askTRP21/06/18 08:11 PM
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I believe you have the facts of this wrong, since your version does not mention the fact that he hired people to ruin those women's reputations (see his wikipedia) after they didn't want to have sex with him.
/r/askTRP21/06/18 08:05 PM
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I looked at Allison Mack's wikipedia (never heard of her) and the article talks about some weird cult like including a branding ceremony (like cattle). If someone is a sex slave and being branded like an animal, when that isn't their kink or something discussed in advance with a ton of consent, you wouldn't agree that is brainwashing? Her article talks about criminal charges for sex trafficking...
/r/askTRP21/06/18 05:08 PM
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So my whole question is about why they weren't turned on while "whoring". He's "ugly" (not great face) but wore nice suits and is 6 foot tall
/r/askTRP21/06/18 01:59 PM
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I don't know - I can picture that guy sending emojis easily. Here's an article a girl wrote: https://www.thetalko.com/15-emojis-all-guys-use-and-what-they-really-mean/ Obviously based on her experience. Do you think she was fucking the men sending her those? I think so. If they had just sent short messages without any emoji I think the author would not have followed up with them
/r/askTRP21/06/18 01:30 PM
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What you wrote about the light switch effect and herd mentality doesn't make sense because it was an "open secret" in Hollywood for a long time. These were rapes even when they were successfully brushed under the rug. The women just weren't into him. Under TRP I guess "fat/ugly" could make sense but due to hypergamy his power should be more important, no? Basically the rapes that happened and where he had to blacklist women who spoke out, I am not getting why these girls weren't into him. It's n…
/r/askTRP21/06/18 03:54 AM
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What do you mean never use emojis? I try to write less than them (2/3 as much as them, not write right away etc) - but if I didn't use emojis how is that different from when I am just rejecting a girl curtly? How does she know I'm interested / how is she encouraged to write more? Aren't silly emojis like a light teasing atmosphere in real life? Isn't that good?
/r/askTRP21/06/18 03:04 AM
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the /s /s /s /s were four sarcasm tags, guess I should have included eight or ten of them for you. I really don't see how you you could have missed it from my comment.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/18 11:20 AM
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Women are good for one thing, sex. Sometimes I want to learn how to do something and I do a YouTube search "How to x". Bam: "how to x". Used to be that I would click the video, learn something, do it, and be on my way. Not anymore! These days if I hear a girl start to talk I just close the video. I'd rather not even know how to turn that annoying beeping off if if I have to learn it from a girl. This is even harder at work. Sometimes I say, "Does anyone know any good sushi places that are not to…
/r/TheRedPill18/06/18 08:09 PM
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have you done it? Could you give an example?
/r/askTRP16/06/18 12:49 PM
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have you done it? Could you give an example?
/r/askTRP16/06/18 12:49 PM
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have you done it? Could you give an example?
/r/askTRP16/06/18 12:49 PM
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the fact that I up and left her there makes me memorable. doubt many guys she met from there did that. anyway I'm gonna hit her up with some polarizing message if she doesn't write me herself (which would be better). we didn't exchange any contact outside tinder.
/r/askTRP13/06/18 06:45 PM
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you are saying I should just next (1), as in i should proactively unmatch her even if there's a 5% chance she's into me and would just come straight over if I invited her over? I feel like I should at least give her the chance to reject coming over to my house for sex, don't you! For (2) well, I did read the sidebar so I am just not going to answer it until next week (keep her hanging.) I don't see what I get out of being in touch with her thru next week. thanks for the input though
/r/askTRP13/06/18 05:24 PM
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This was interesting. I got a couple of different random questions for you also: (1.) I left a tinder date early because I had some work to do and I could see she was not being very sexually open. I said that usually by now I would see if a woman is super into me and I don't see this from her so since I have work to do I'm bailing. She was shocked and clearly wasn't expecting this. This was a few days ago and she hasn't unmatched me. (By the way in the conversation before meeting she asked what'…
/r/askTRP13/06/18 04:07 PM
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you can't apply basic principles such as abundance (if they see you not come home with anyone for a month.) You can't work the basic, primary thing of letting their imagination go wild about what you're doing and who you are. you can't polarize them if you do go out because they can't just go home somewhere else, so you have to be careful about just making moves because rejection is weird and creepy. so I think it's stupid. You should treat all 3 of them like your sister and hard next them and r…
/r/askTRP13/06/18 03:52 PM
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I read this carefully. When I said "side gig" this means working on something that I could also work on with a male friend. it's unrelated to anything romantic. However in my previous experience doing this the woman (who I was not doing anything romantic with) was a great partner for the thing we were doing. What are you advising me on? Let me break it into these choices: Don't contact her because the fact that I went on dates makes anything else we do creepy. we can't become friends and work on…
/r/askTRP13/06/18 03:35 PM
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you posted this twice, I answered the other one.
/r/askTRP13/06/18 02:21 PM
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Okay, I was being a bit vague. I mean can I work with her making something together with a business component. I mentioned that I did this before with a woman: the dynamics where I did this previously was that I was leading this and acted like the boss while also listening to input, and she did this out of being excited about what we were making. (I've also done these kinds of things with someone I was absolutely 100% in a monogamous relationship with.) What I have not done is try to game someon…
/r/askTRP13/06/18 02:21 PM
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wouldn't you rather she did that about something you're totally confident in? say you're fine with your height, absolutely slightly-above-average and you have zero qualms. But pretend to be self-conscious about it. she can bring it up all she wants. it's a lot better than if she brings up something real!! Don't you think? but anyway from the other responses it seems important not to overdo it. it sounds more like a subtle spice to add to the mix - not really something she'll remember and bring u…
/r/askTRP12/06/18 01:38 AM
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Well try it. Try faking vulnerability about something you're absolutely confident in. like say you bench 200 lbs. say you were never able to reach how much you really wanted, and act self-conscious about it. (even though you know you rock). I mean how is she going to use that against you lol. what, is she going to say, "And that's why you only bench 200 lbs!" No way to use that against you.
/r/askTRP11/06/18 06:10 PM
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exactly. I'm very clear that this is NOT what it stands for.
/r/askTRP11/06/18 06:09 PM
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congrats on the date, and that is a nice story. (By the way you accidentally wrote "works out at a bar" but it's obvious you meant "works at a bar".) Since you mention it happened at the beginning of your journey, honestly speaking did you (be honest) go into the date with a lot of expectations rather than total outcome independence, and legitimately having a ton of different options? :) (At least I know I would have). From everything I read here, abundance mentality, and, actual abundance is re…
/r/askTRP11/06/18 03:15 PM
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nice example. Thanks!
/r/askTRP11/06/18 07:42 AM
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okay, thanks. This is really interesting, then. So what's with TRP-ers who say they hold frame 100% of the time and are basically swimming in pussy haha. I wonder if it's the same kind of pussy, or if people who hold frame 100% of the time just attract a different kind of girl. it could be a subtle difference, they might not even notice that the girls who gravitate to them are slightly different from the girls who gravitate to men who show some vulnerability? Otherwise it's very confusing.
/r/askTRP11/06/18 07:39 AM
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Is there a "than" missing from your second sentence? (You wrote "wayyy more effective when I try to feel/act alpha" but did you mean "wayy more effective than when I try to feel/act alpha"?) I can't figure out which one you're saying.
/r/askTRP11/06/18 06:50 AM
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I’ve had so much success with this shit. It’s confusing when compared to trp Exactly. But we know from field reports etc that TRP also works, and TRP says "hold frame 100% of the time. never waver an inch or a second". (Not quoting anything just paraphrasing.) As you and I have seen, this awkward/shy stuff works too. Could you give me your examples? What I like to do is if she's a foreign chick and I speak her language like fuckin' fluently (I speak a couple) I will pretend to be suuuuuuuper sel…
/r/askTRP11/06/18 06:48 AM
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hence what I said about FAKE (absolutely 100% fake - NOT something real that you actually processed) vulnerabilities.
/r/askTRP11/06/18 04:26 AM
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Oh, so is it because she can see that a moment later I'm totally strong. (Since, after all, I was just faking anyway)?
/r/askTRP11/06/18 01:29 AM
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no you don't get it, like something totally stupid. Like imagine that I say, "I never actually got my college degree" and look down and blush and act like I'm totally flustered by this, for the express purpose of making her think that she has something she can bring up to embarrass me, something I'm self-conscious about (as the original thing I quoted said: "women need to see that there are at least a few small holes where they can sink their hooks in you"). (I use this example because who fucki…
/r/askTRP11/06/18 01:27 AM
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that's just the thing. I'm pretty sure it does make me look like a faggot. just being super self-conscious about something. (I'm literally faking it.) like looking down and blushing and stammering about something. I have no idea how on Earth this is compatible with TRP. I'm doing it as part of a routine and it is really, really important. why the fuck should I have to stammer and be embarrassed about something... .... that's .... fake!
/r/askTRP10/06/18 11:54 PM
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Your fault. This sentence, OBJECTIVELY speaking, is a minor instance of faulting someone and placing blaming on them. You are literally personally attacking someone in a really, really, really, really minor way. Do you see how the two words "your fault" are literally a really small instance of faulting and blaming someone? Please agree that it is.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/18 11:51 PM
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The point is MUCH more specific. It is about FAKING specifically vulnerability.
/r/askTRP10/06/18 10:23 PM
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You'd better have sex with him at the end of the date just so he knows you're absolutely not interested. if he doesn't make a move it's up to you. At the end of the date go ahead and kiss him, that means with tongue. Then after a moment making out (he'll be very surprised), grab his hand and say, "Are we going to have sex at my place or yours" look him in the eye and wait until he says one or the other. Don't accept any other answer. Just push. You have a right to say no, and sometimes that mean…
/r/seduction08/06/18 01:44 AM
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why would she know, I've just known her for a few days. there's an external reason we shouldn't fuck, though. actually a couple. If you are saying this frame will transfer to anyone else,then are you basically saying that anyone who I'm not fucking is a terrible wingwoman, and I shouldn't bring her along to anything to increase my smv?
/r/askTRP07/06/18 10:07 PM
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absolutely it's the latter and yes 100% weird shit goes on at those parties. how would you frame the invite? "I'll be going to this xyz thing you can come too if you're into that but probably weird shit will be going on!" ? Also if she's on the fence (we just met not so many days ago after all) then... do I try to kino her or treat her like a willing wingwoman (that she appoitned herself to) or what would you do here? I don't care if I fuck or her or not, but if anythign she's my orbiter (she ha…
/r/askTRP07/06/18 07:33 PM
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okay to answer your questions I've only known this girl a week or two, and she proactively invited me out to wingwoman for me (her suggestion) and wanted to help me hook up. she's bought me gifts (I haven't bought her shift) and I am not the one who brought up introducing me to her friends she is. (I think she does find me sexually attractive). Not everyone is going to hook up with everyone bro. that said you are not really giving me any advice here...?
/r/askTRP07/06/18 07:30 PM
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Can you give some specific examples? How can you be assertive while being independent to the outcome? It seems like a contradiction.
/r/askTRP05/06/18 06:14 PM
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got it. Obviously I mean on a practical level since they'll talk to each other now that I've brought it up.
/r/askTRP13/05/18 07:51 PM
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do I just drop the subject? (not answer her question whether I've been on a date with the other woman) How would you handle this part of the conversation where we're at?
/r/askTRP13/05/18 06:34 PM
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Once you're buff women don't want to hear that shit from you. Their skinny liberal friends are there to discuss that with them, while you're there to pound them. This comes from the women, not from you. you don't really have a choice in the matter. (relative beginner, take what I say with a grain of salt!)
/r/askTRP05/05/18 08:01 PM
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but red pill men are particularly aggressive in sex (dominant etc). you would think if this tended to occur it would occur to red pill men who would then exonerate themselves. it's just so odd that there aren't any cases like that, while the manosphere says everyone should protect themselves against false accusations in this way.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/18 11:01 PM
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Some areas of the manosphere really advocate that practice. all right so you have thousands or tens of thousands of men doing this, and then having sex with dozens or even hundreds of women each: Out of those 100,000 cases has even 1 woman ever accused a member of the manosphere who does that, of rape, who was then able to exonerate himself because there was a recording? Or is the false rape rate 0 out of 100,000? Can you link to anyone actually using their recording this way (to exonerate thems…
/r/TheRedPill04/05/18 10:05 PM
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no, I didn't try the search! This question was asked just 2 months ago in exact detail: https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/7vnp08/mark_mansons_models_vs_trp_ideals/ So if mods want you can remove my question since it's a repost. thanks for the heads-up.
/r/askTRP01/05/18 06:06 PM
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this is true but not an acceptable standard. for example if you were to go out and almost rape 1,000 women, chances are one or two would have happened to already have a rape fetish, enjoy the aggressive violence, and would encourage you in the strongest possible terms to go ahead and do it. But that doesn't mean it was okay to traumatically almost rape the other 998 that make a narrow escape, because they weren't the 1 or 2 that you were looking for who are into it. I guess it's best if we're mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 04:36 PM
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Let me ask you this. Could a totally reasonable woman have this reaction if a stranger said "do you want to come over to my place?" at the end of a 15-second introduction with a stranger who she has never seen in her life: "What the hell!! That is so incredibly rude of you to ask. I don't even know you, you just come up to me and imply I should go home with you! Whatever happened to respect, huh?" Personally, I think a very harsh reaction like that is completely reasonable. (Some of the time.) I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 01:26 AM
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So I did try something similar to this. I saw a cute girl and asked within a few seconds of talking to her if she has a boyfriend and I made sure to mention that I lived right nearby and I think that I was talking to her because she was cute. I also asked if she has a boyfriend but she said she does so I stopped talking to her. But as I did she said she really appreciated my approach and don't let the fact that she has a boyfriend stop me, I should keep making approaches the same way and she's s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 06:20 PM
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I want to know what the success rate of that pickup line is said by a decent-looking guy with humor and confidence in a situation that is a bit social and not (situation-wise) in and of itself dangerous or anything. it can't be 0.000% it must be at least... 0.1%? I can't imagine I'd have to say that line 1,000 times before I got a haha, and playful reply. but the point stands: If that line has a 2% success rate, is it okay to say it to you and 48 other women, before I get to #50 who says "haha y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 08:48 AM
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well, I've not replied for weeks/months and then replied, so... yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 08:45 AM
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haha, thanks. where did you get the line "you have dick sucking lips, care to wrap them around my cock?" ??? did someone say that to you?? who? Now I want to know if that person has success with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 08:05 PM
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it's cognitive dissonance. most feminists are straight but it's difficult to address the behavior they want from straight men directly. it causes problems and a lot of bans and shot down discussions. it's great that women get to go to school, be smart, have careers and so forth. I wouldn't want to spend time with a woman from the 18th century who had no such opportunities. these are feminist victories. so feminism or equality isn't bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 04:42 PM
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I can't speak for other women. But I would totally be creeped out by this. GREAT!! So we have an exact example that we can specifically talk about. (Yeah I played The Sims). So. You would be creeped out by this. Sometimes people have a poor chance to guess their reactions to future events but let's say you're correct and even if done with humor and not threateningly or anything, rather than be flattered you really will be creeped out. Now. Can you imagine that if I said exactly that, creeping yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 04:32 PM
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come on bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 04:25 PM
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Actually if I make the following change to your "speech": Hello, I saw you from a far and found you attractive. Now, I don't want to give off the wrong impression so tell me if I'm way off base but I'd like to spend some time getting to know you a bit and if we hit it off maybe later we could have casual sex. Like me and you. Because you're hot. Haha. Anyway, hi, I'm (my name.)" and I extend my hand out to greet her. This is EXTREMELY creepy and direct to like 90% of the cases. If I do that 40 t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 03:59 PM
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No I was asking if it is all right to creep some of the women out. (From a feminist perspective)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 02:33 PM
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thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 10:40 AM
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if you mean purplepilldebate I've never had any issue here. no issue in this thread either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 10:39 AM
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someone else could reasonably write: Why should I? I am communicating my interest with my silence and encouraging him to try harder. after all, they might feel that they could just reject them if they were not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 10:38 AM
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you say the key is communication but did you tell these spammy guys how you felt about it? it also seems like your standard is "if most women are okay with my behavior" then it's okay - rather than, if I've ever made an unexpected or unwelcome advance, it's not okay. basically there's a certain risk factor I guess. by the way I'm going to sleep now, thanks for the responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 03:38 AM
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what is your train of thought here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 02:57 AM
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:D
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:52 AM
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it can be insightful at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:52 AM
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Than don’t do shit at all. Just divert your eyes anytime you see a woman. Don’t even speak until spoken to. Why not just get down and kneel why you’re at it? To be honest I was expecting this to be the feminist viewpoint. (Though they wouldn't put it in so many words.) That this is the behavior they would like from men, since it would allow them a safe place where they won't be creeped on by anyone ever. I'm shocked that you identify as a feminist given that you don't hold such a view (your view…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:50 AM
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yes I expect there to be, or for them to come up with one through debate. the answer I got in this thread was surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:46 AM
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Obviously everyone annoys or creeps someone but men are quite rarely creeped on by women in anything like an active way. (Obviously the exception is some sort of celebrity, I imagine male celebrities get weird creepers). So this is specificaly about men's actions. There's a great example hidden at the end of your last line! My beef is with harassment, the guys who try to argue against a no, who whine, who spam messages without response. So let's take the last example (messages without a response…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:39 AM
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well if you're not a feminist scholar, it wasn't really what I was asking about :D (You might not know what view feminists hold.) It sounds like you have a normal relationship with men, and as part of that you do reject some men. this gives you a background level of being asked out and if on a date escalated with, and you're okay with that because when you do like a man it makes it worth putting up with the ones you had to reject to get there. right? But perhaps this isn't the feminist viewpoint…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:30 AM
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You must have misread, I didn't and wouldn't make a post with that title. if you're a feminist I would like you to also give an opinion about this question (in this thread!) as that summarizes what I'm asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:12 AM
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You're saying "that is fine" but is that the feminist position, then? The reason I ask is that as a direct (not incidental) result of this policy attractive women are approached unsolicited all the time. An attractive woman can't even walk home alone without planning her route around the types of men who will cold approach her and how. I thought feminism was against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:10 AM
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Neither! I mean: "Is it okay to escalate in a way that several women would reject, some be attracted to but might end up turning down, in order to move the relationship forward with the girls who stay interested." I mean this: I go up to Abigail, Ada, Adeline, Alice, Augusta, Ava, ... Vera, Viola, Vivian... and Zelda and completey unprompted start talking to them and eventually express interest. 100% of them soon realize that I'm hitting on them. 10% are creeped out by my approach and that I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:04 AM
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What is the canned feminist answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:55 AM
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This is a very deep statement. However, feminists do not want men to disappear, die, or move out of the country. So while their statement about what they do want from men may be immoral or wrong, I can still be interested in their statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:51 AM
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super interesting, thanks for the response.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:28 AM
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thanks, good tip.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:26 AM
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as you can see the responses are ridiculously polarized and have had no feminist viewpoints or philosophy so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:25 AM
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Are they going to do anything at all to make your experience as a man more confortable and enjoyable in the sexual marketplace? absolutely! They count calories, read about fashion, spend a large part of their salaries on pretty dresses and make-up, read, ask their friends about, and so forth, about how to do it, spend time thinking about how they can get into social situations with me and get my interest, and even read romance novels as part of their quest to be approached by a man who knows wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:25 AM
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why is it a leading question? In a reply I dismiss the obvious stupid answer. they might have insights for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:22 AM
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because I can make whatever world I want. I'm trying to get their input to decide what world to make for myself and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:20 AM
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So firstly the main question is the best subreddit to ask a question (similar to the one you say I'm asking). I would spend some time reading that sub's posts so that I could make a good post. It's not only about escalation at the point of the cold approach but at every point. You say "who didn't respond positively to a cold approach" but having men cold approach a woman all the time could be seen as a background level of constant approaches. And, for that reason, feminism might be against this.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 11:45 PM
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what an excellent idea. absolutely did not think of this.
/r/askTRP26/04/18 09:10 PM
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This was an interesting description, thank you. could I ask if you're as fit as possible (without being on steroids) or more like a typical 50 year old? I'm not in that age group or anything but I'm pretty interested in how this worked out for you.
/r/askTRP26/04/18 09:56 AM
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why do you believe those 3 guys? (your description goes against red pill theory since beta bux, alpha fux.)
/r/askTRP25/04/18 12:13 PM
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Your title is completely accurate, it's a fair summary ("Hamster pushed for divorce, then became jealous when ex-husband got in shape and found a younger, prettier SO"). Your write-up though has too much anger in it! This woman is so honest in her write-up, she shows extreme amounts of self-awareness. I guess it's because the man is doing well now and she wants him, whereas if she didn't then she would be making up some story about how the man was abusive or something. But despite this theory I …
/r/TheRedPill22/04/18 11:48 PM
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Why doesn't TRP recommend vasectomies? Also they're reversible aren't they in case you do want a child later?
/r/TheRedPill22/04/18 03:34 AM
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srs or /s (just answer)
/r/askTRP19/04/18 06:55 PM
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man kids these days. take the following with a huge grain of salt. I'm just a TRP beginner. I miss tinder. if I got a text like this after hooking up with a tinder date for the purposes of having sex, I could think of a couple of legitimate reasons why she would want to know, for example if she wants to know whether to get tested for STD's, or if she needs to take some birth control pill or check for pregnancy over the coming weeks. (She does say "if we fooled around", which unless it's a trick …
/r/askTRP16/04/18 06:57 PM
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So is at least this: Do you want to go back to my place to see where the rest of the night takes us? at least clearly about (possible) sex? I think "definitely!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 01:15 PM
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no she's not saying anything like that before going back. I agree that if I invited her back for tea and she said something like that ("Yes but don't misunderstand, this is just tea!") then it would be clear. If instead I said, "Do you want to go back to my place... For a... tea." without trying to be convincing then I thought this is just an invitation back for (probably) sex. I thought nobody said "do you wan to go back to my place and maybe have sex" - that this sentence literally is never ut…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 12:18 PM
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actually confirm a date, obviously. have other people besides this one (abundance). ignore them for a bit. NOTE: I'm just a beginner.
/r/askTRP14/04/18 12:12 AM
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why are people here acting like this is a flake? absolutely 100% not a flake. "maybe I got to find out if I'm going to the gym with my friend that night, I'll let you know" is NOT a confirmed date. the reason she's acting like she didn't flake is because she didn't flake. did people not read this? NO FLAKE OCCURRED.
/r/askTRP13/04/18 07:18 PM
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Suppose you're arguing before the supreme court. Currently that has three women on it: Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 85, Sonia Sotomayor, 63, Elena Kagan, 57. As attracted as you are to them (I know I am), it is INAPPROPRIATE to come onto them sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 11:13 PM
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thanks
/r/askTRP12/04/18 08:11 AM
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I meant that her rejection coincided with being with another guy. maybe she wants attention from me again now that that is over. I never gave her orbiter attention only came on to her strongly. when I she rejected me I cut all attention entirely.
/r/askTRP11/04/18 06:54 PM
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can you be more specific? do I just open her again like she hadn't rejected me previously?
/r/askTRP11/04/18 04:55 PM
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thanks bro. this is the kind of specific advice I was looking for!
/r/askTRP11/04/18 09:34 AM
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sure. so a clear rejection via text to any physical escalation was in the last week of March, incidentally she was then travelling soon. I backed off completely but kept cordial (not butthurt). I texted a couple of polite messages during her trip regarding when she woudl be back which she marked read but didn't reply to. (She's actually terrible with messaging, with everyone.) Next she had some thing with a guy and now that's over and as far as I can see she would appreciate attention from me ag…
/r/askTRP11/04/18 09:18 AM
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I thought so too, I just wanted to make sure standing next to me looking pretty and looking at me expectantly doesn't count as "Directly contacting me." Who knows girls man.
/r/askTRP11/04/18 09:11 AM
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why? maybe because she's making it easy?
/r/askTRP11/04/18 09:10 AM
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Why? She's simply someone who I nexted. But if I didn't know her and saw this body language in literally any other context it would be screaming "TALK TO ME!!! HEY!!! YOU!!! TALK TO ME!!!!" I mean at least to me it's not subtle at all.
/r/askTRP11/04/18 09:02 AM
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well there's 0 interaction between us so if I was orbiting her that is the past now.
/r/askTRP10/04/18 07:57 PM
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It could be that standing around and waiting, looking at the guy with open body language is the most aggressive approach they can think of. The next step would be taking their top off, but they want to do that in private. (Just a guess.) If you google "how do I get a guy to talk to me" pay attention to the autocomplete! By the time you are at "how do I get a guy to" it suggets "how do I get a guy to notice me without talking to him." By the time you type "how do I get a guy to talk to me" it sug…
/r/askTRP10/04/18 05:09 PM
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good ideas here.
/r/askTRP09/04/18 06:49 PM
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this is the perspective I was looking for. I guess I was also ready for "These women can be nice to have a woman's perspective on certain issues, they're smarter than average but can blah blah. Don't date them/game them, just be friends with them." Actually though nobody suggested that. So I guess I'll treat them just as all other women. (Which means they won't be my friend, no.)
/r/askTRP09/04/18 05:10 PM
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:D :D awesome description, thanks.
/r/askTRP09/04/18 01:58 PM
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thanks
/r/askTRP09/04/18 01:57 PM
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but don't they make good friends? (better than normal). The person in question is not ugly and autistic.
/r/askTRP09/04/18 12:27 PM
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That's not the only thing wrong with this post. I'm down to reading section 3 which says "I guarantee if you don't chase her or contact her, she'll do one of these things:" and then lists A, B, and C. None of them include actually getting together with some other guy. Which is fine and happens sometimes. i.e. just leaving your life. We can't all literally be the best guy in the world, the level of delusion would be unreal. there's lots of girls and if she is happy with another guy more power to …
/r/TheRedPill07/04/18 11:00 AM
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that's correct yes it's the only thing I can get right now immediately with no work. I wonder if someone who sees me with them would take it as preselection. Guess not!
/r/askTRP04/04/18 10:48 AM
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makes sense. still this biological explanation doesn't explain why a man would spend hundreds of dollars on a girl who has zero interest in him and will never have interest in him. it literally does nothing for the man. so, since as I just showed, beta orbiter behavior isn't explained or driven by evolution, for the same reason as we start to do better I thought that we could have the same type of meaningless orbiter women who don't really get any benefit from it. (just as orbiter beta males get…
/r/askTRP04/04/18 12:29 AM
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This is interesting, thanks for the enumeration. (I don't have this same level of friendzoned women - you're definitely ahead here). You identify at the end that women will "get the hint" and disappear faster than a normal sad beta guy orbiter. so it sounds like while as men we can benefit, it is definitely going to be kind of a different type of benefit. maybe because male orbiters hope to use their provider status? some of what you shared in your reply (sending PDF's of course books, another o…
/r/askTRP03/04/18 11:29 PM
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this isn't exactly a woman's friend zone though. do these girls do anything for you? (favors, buy you shit, run errands for you, all the random shit male orbiters do for women). it sounds like they're just backups, not in your friendzone the way women will have orbiters in their friendzones.... (who do shit for them and so forth) Can you identify anything they've done for you the way beta orbiters do for women they pedestal? (As an example have you gotten gifts from them.)
/r/askTRP03/04/18 08:16 PM
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women don't just get validation from their orbiters. they get free gifts, services, favors, whatever they want. actually our orbiters can also do favors for us (sometimes reciprocally, like a genuine friendship but really actually motivated by the woman in question thinking she might one day have a chance: like an orbiter). basically the responses here generally see no direct benefit. (like favors and so forth).
/r/askTRP03/04/18 01:38 PM
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that's fine. so, do we do this or not? Don't we get the same benefits they do? For example lackeys.
/r/askTRP03/04/18 10:48 AM
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no it's not a shit test! If a girl says "you're so sexy" that means she genuinely honestly (I mean actually, seriously) creeped out by you. She'c uncomfortable. you need to stop being so sexy. /s
/r/TheRedPill23/03/18 12:11 PM
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I agree with you but it's weird. why did this happen?
/r/askTRP23/03/18 12:08 PM
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I don't know if it's horseshit or not but I did this search. The top result is this interesting post: you will never be chad It (and the comments) actually gives some interesting answers to my question also.
/r/askTRP23/03/18 10:30 AM
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I think you misread it. I think what you quoted, "Made a commitment to a high level plate" was meant to be read as: "I decided (some time ago) to commit to (at the time) a high level plate (so that she became and has been my girlfriend since then." not however you read it
/r/askTRP19/03/18 04:17 AM
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actually ended up doing that via further messsages. I think I'm set :) we'll see.
/r/askTRP17/03/18 01:26 AM
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thanks for your advice. I think you didn't concentrate enough on the fact that she's in my social circle (not just a stranger I'm gaming), but you're right I should have gamed harder before getting the drinks to make it clearer in her mind. since she seemed interested in person I felt like I had nothing to lose and just used the word 'date' instead of going around gaming her via text or something. she said sure, as long as I don't call it a date. (she was into me.) obviously I won't do it this w…
/r/askTRP15/03/18 05:27 PM
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yep, I opepend a can of worms by using the word date - as another person here said "Calling it a date usually puts unnecessary pressure on a girl" which I hadn't realize would happen. I know you phrase it as "never failed me to weed out time wasters" we can just say, it's kind of going too far to say that (does that mean every girl you don't want to bang is a time waster every time you two hang out? of course not) - but I agree with the sentiment. so without using the word date how would you bro…
/r/askTRP15/03/18 09:37 AM
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yes I think so because she wrote about how she was happy to be single again after a long relationship and so forth, as an explanation for why not call it a date. But I didn't think of a date as like, "let's start to date", I just meant to separate it from a friendly meeting, to broadcast my intentions. remember that this is not off of tinder or something but out of my circle of friends. So how would you broadcast this intention without using the word "date"? I do agree with your assessment.
/r/askTRP15/03/18 09:32 AM
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no problem, I can understand. plus I mean it's not like they couldn't make a move (in blue pill theory). I know that in practice they would expect you to make a move but it's not like totally required, by the brainwashed version of culture, i.e. blue pill. of course the red pill says you should make a move but it's only "obvious" in retrospect. keep learning :)
/r/TheRedPill12/03/18 11:42 PM
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got it - thanks! Uh, did you actually watch movies?
/r/TheRedPill12/03/18 09:11 PM
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also, how did you get them into your bed? Were you already kissing or no? what did you say that made them come back to your bed with you?
/r/TheRedPill12/03/18 08:22 PM
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wait, I read some more- Now, every time I were to walk past her she would subtly grab my dick, and obviously I was taking the hint, "the hint". Still isn't consent in 2018 but close?
/r/TheRedPill12/03/18 07:43 PM
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I don't understand this: The first 2 weeks of university I got 8 girls back to my bed, and didn't pull a single one. (I know what you're thinking, but to me, I still didn't know what to do from here, because they were automatically now on a pedestal, they were in my bed) What does "pull" mean in this sentence? Have sex with? I have trouble understanding this. Maybe #metoo has gone too far, but NORMALLY, if a girl gets in bed with you they really want you to do something to them? I don't know wha…
/r/TheRedPill12/03/18 07:38 PM
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What do you get by using dehumanizing language like "fembots"? Instead, TRP is about identifying correct traits and instincts in all women (what all women are attracted to.) So in the long term, TRP is sure to win and convert the definition of "woman" to match reality. Let's use an analogy. Suppose there were men, women, and androids made of silicon. But only men and women had emotions. Suppose some kind of stupid false ideology taught that men and women are the same as androids, and can run any…
/r/TheRedPill11/03/18 03:15 AM
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Fine. Is it a problem.if I get to know all 3 well enough to choose better (this might take 15-30 minutes) To diacover if we have any hobbies or anything in common. Or should I do that in isolatio
/r/askTRP11/03/18 03:11 AM
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between picking between the guy who's good in bed but won't commit, or the guy who will totally commit but isn't great in bed. Is it possible to be the first guy in every way except, unlike the former, to commit? (Basically, is married red pill possible?)
/r/TheRedPill11/03/18 02:18 AM
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Okay, suppose I've picked one (not as easy as you say! friends are on the same wavelength, likely have a ton in common and can communicate the same way, that's why they're friends?) Now I've talked with 3 - do I just leave 2 of them there while I go off with one of them? In actual real-life are there situations where you don't know which of 3 women who seem interested in you, might actually be the one you end up isolating and escalating with? sorry for the kind of asinine question.
/r/askTRP10/03/18 10:41 PM
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but you don't understand. I don't have a particular 1 in mind out of the 3, let's say. So I don't know "who to isolate." Are you saying I have to pick one? Or talk to all three, then make a decision, then try to isolate? Because if I talk with all 3 and all 3 are interested this is a difficult situation. not trolling here - I'm not saying that they'd all go back to my place or anything like that. just that it's not clear how to proceed if I don't know what I myself want (who I want to get to kno…
/r/askTRP10/03/18 09:03 PM
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This was interesting and I didn't think of it this way. However I specifically asked about if all 3 are there to meet guys. So, here you are one guy, faced with three wide-eyed girls who are into you not even paying attention to each other. You haven't spoken to them, you don't know anything about them. if I handle it as a normal conversation that can be fine but like what, am I supposed to talk with all 3 long eough to find which one I click with then...drag two men into the conversation and so…
/r/askTRP10/03/18 06:43 PM
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why would I want free advertisement toward the ones I didn't choose? I want the one I choose to spend time with me and her friends to leave us alone while we do, right? I just don't understand the dynamics you are saying should happen, can you explain a it more? Also I seem to sense sometimes them thinking "I wonder which of us he likes" or will choose or something like that. This is an awkward situation for me. Also although I mentioned 3 women in the question, it can also apply to just 2.
/r/askTRP10/03/18 03:27 PM
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I've read the sidebar materials.
/r/askTRP10/03/18 02:32 PM
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thanks, agree. also, they shouldn't hit on female employees in their chain of command.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/18 11:54 AM
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isn't Ansari's career over? (due to the public airing of the sex episode.) Has he done any standup since then? (As he's a standup comic) - or anything else? The public defense by some women doesn't really help him - not having the bad sex aired publicly is what would have helped. As for your example, you don't really include anything sexual. Girls also love having gay friends: they get help from them without having to treat them as someone who will fuck them. this is not how I read the women who…
/r/TheRedPill07/03/18 06:02 AM
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You're really moving the standard a lot higher than what I replied to. The comment I replied to said "if your SMV is low enough." That's not exactly the same as "If your SMV is below an alpha-mode Adonis who can't leave his apartment without stepping on pussy." I mean perhaps to your point Aziz Ansaris is "low enough" in a technical sense, but only in the same technical sense that someone can be "poor enough" not to have multiple real estate properties. A totally different definition of "poor en…
/r/TheRedPill07/03/18 05:20 AM
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what do you mean "it is almost a sure thing"?
/r/TheRedPill07/03/18 01:54 AM
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Holy shit you are two steps ahead of the feminist movement. How can "You want me to put it in your pussy, don't you" - "yes!" be anything but consent. (They could just be silent). As you point out: Because it's a leading question!!!! Wow, 2018 folks. "So you were naked in your apartment." "Yes, but I wasn't comfortable with it." "What happened next." "He pointed to his dick." "And what did you do?" "I kneeled and started giving him a blowjob." "Did he ask for your consent?" "No." "And then what …
/r/TheRedPill06/03/18 06:21 PM
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You can only be a 'creep' and the victim of #metoo if your SMV is low enough. Clearly not true. Clearly Asis Ansari was a direct victim of the #metoo movement. At the same time, he was on a date, he used magic words asking for consent (where do you want me to put it) back in his apartment. Many women came out to support his case, saying it really wasn't anything but a bad date. he doesn't have low SMV at all. I think many of the women who came out supporting him would have loved the exact same d…
/r/TheRedPill06/03/18 06:05 PM
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I think sometimes it's absolutely instant, like practically before you've gotten the sentence out validating her feelings and emotions and reciprocating them. but I see what you mean yeah. And the red pill doesn't really acknowledge that there can be true and happy 20, 30, or 50 year marriages without any branch swinging or anything like that.
/r/askTRP21/02/18 11:34 PM
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you just said it she will still be attracted (at least for a while). why did you add that parenthetical? You know what I wrote is true.
/r/askTRP21/02/18 10:21 AM
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makes sense! I thought the reason for dangling it is because the plate wants it but OP doesn't -- so I was thinking it's kind of a fraud, like an empty promise by OP. But that's not true, that is not what's going on. What's going on is the plate thinks she wants it but doesn't really, and even if OP wants it and plate says she wants it, OP is left out in the cold if he says "Ok". This is truly some red pill stuff right here. I mean, if a woman says she wants emotional commitment (and you want th…
/r/askTRP20/02/18 11:53 AM
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same thing. She will not be appreciative if OP responds with what she seems to be asking for in the text. she will not respond well if that happens. (in my opinion.)
/r/askTRP20/02/18 11:28 AM
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Haha, "Lets meet up I wanna have sex this week" - what do you think guys, how do I handle this Do I have to maintain that deniability moving this forward when I text her, or has she taken that need off the table oh man this is hilarious. genuinely funny.
/r/askTRP20/02/18 11:26 AM
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I want to add something for OP. Commitment is NOT attractive to women. The minute you actually showed feelings for her she would instantly stop being attracted to you. She would drop you instantly, at least emotionally speaking. So what she has written is a lie. she is kind of just testing your frame. Remember: she is JUST dangling the idea that you can find emotional happiness with her. You cannot. It's 100.00% not true. She is lying to you (and probably to herself.) The minute you showed affec…
/r/askTRP20/02/18 11:13 AM
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pretty interesting list! But it does seem you're talking about the difference between being a total bum and just having a job. You don't mention exotic travel, VIP back-stage passes, helicopter rides and bungee jumping, art auctions, or who knows wtf truly rich people are doing with their lives. You're just talking about having a job. So, it still kind of leaves the question of why more than just a job is necessary.
/r/askTRP13/02/18 05:19 PM
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right I thought so. So basically under the red pill framework the latter is the approach we take, right? If she's with you because your presence lights her pussy on fire, she won't give a fuck about whether you're rich or a drug dealer/compulsive liar/violent sociopath/bum on the street. so it's just not very important.
/r/askTRP13/02/18 01:38 AM
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Thank you. I appreciate your detailed and thoughtful response. Although you wrap it in many layers of sugar and affirmation that I'm doing all right, you did answer my question as I asked it - this is the part where you answered: An extreme blue pill response would be "OMG, have I caused m'lady distress". Well we can guarantee a brown road to hell with that one. Your broken frame confirms the sneaky shard of possibility in her mind that you have violated her. What OP has demonstrated is not so m…
/r/TheRedPill09/02/18 07:11 AM
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Thanks for the spoonfed reminder. Yes, it's what I needed. All right, I agree to do this. I didn't find a "Top threads of all time" link - there's a Top link but it's more recent. Where do I find the Top Threads of All Time? I've been reading some of the side-bar and I guess I simply need to keep going before I ask nuanced, advanced questions.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/18 07:06 AM
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But a tear and dissociated look in her eye isn't something they say, it's something they do. From the description, it could have been very traumatic for her (like a rape). She might also have previously literally been raped as a wholly negative experience by someone she was totally not into - maybe at a time she was underage etc etc etc all of which would be something she could have discussed with the man as he ramped up toward what perhaps was a good experience for her. I am really struggling h…
/r/TheRedPill09/02/18 05:25 AM
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We are talking about a situation in which without any discussion and the first time they fucked, the man went very primal as the woman was turned, including choking, hairpulling etc. She orgasmed he thought. Nowhere in the sidebar does anything say "Don't ever discuss anything with women." They're not mute. I want to learn here, but I've had very good sex that included communication, that was also very good for the women, and I just don't see why it can't be that way. you are going to have to sp…
/r/TheRedPill09/02/18 05:20 AM
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But "the oldest teenager" is a far cry from a toddler who hasn't learned to speak yet? To a toddler you can say, "eat this" because you're the parent and they're going to eat it now. To the metaphorical teenager, they certainly have some agency. They can open their mouths and tell you if something hurts or they're into it. So I find it super odd that this can't be discussed. It almost sounds like the wisdom is "women are the oldest teenager in the room, and they have headphones on: you can't ask…
/r/TheRedPill09/02/18 03:29 AM
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I'll consider this, I'm undecided now.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/18 02:58 AM
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in the future turn it down a notch, okay so former blue pill me has 100% of my frame right now and says: "or open your fucking mouths like adults." (I mean e.g. hey was that okay? can we do that again? you'll let me know if I'm going too hard etc.) I've done that. Does this mean I had a unicorn or was turning them off? screaming orgasms imply otherwise. I don't know the red pill rules. I'm just confused. Are we not allowed to actually speak to women? I hope you understand my question. Bear in mi…
/r/TheRedPill09/02/18 02:55 AM
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I think you need to get her opinion that the encounter was consensual in writing, because in the moment she felt like you had just raped her. (see my other post). I'm just a beginner though.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/18 11:12 PM
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Here is my take. I'm just a beginner at TRP: What actually happened is she withdrew consent when you didn't see her do so. She didn't communicate that she withdrew consent. She literally did it mid-thrust. She had an orgasm, which occurred after this period where she silently withdrew consent without telling you. Now, the issue here is that nobody has an answer to what to do in this situation. One thing you will NEVER hear is feminists say to women is "If you are turned away (for example if your…
/r/TheRedPill08/02/18 11:10 PM
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NOTE: I am just a novice to TRP so take this with a grain of sand. This is what I thought of your post. There are two kinds of pretty girls: Humans, who are subject to the same laws as a perfect-10 male model. Do you think with the right genetics a man can be a model without any regard to his choice of clothing, style, health, diet, anything? Of course not. The first type of perfect-10 girl is only human and of course gets to be a 10 by investing the required amount of time into fashion, beauty,…
/r/TheRedPill05/02/18 01:31 AM
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(not OP) - What do you guys think of solid beta game instead of fade? I mean this: "Listen I can't stop thinking about you, I don't ever want to see any other women I don't care if you get fat or stop caring I just want to hang on your side every moment of every day so that you will never hurt me the way we're hurting xyz. I love you more than the passion of a million suns you are the only thing I can ever think of let's surprise everyone and say we are engaged I only want you ever I do not even…
/r/askTRP30/01/18 10:16 PM
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Grace already planned on fucking him and this hapless beta moron snatched defeat from the jaws of victory you say this as though it were COMPLETELY obvious that what you need to do when you have a naked woman in your apartment who is your huge fan, is to ignore the fact that you are both naked, and your raging boner, and sit and do your taxes. THIS IS NOT OBVIOUS!!!!
/r/TheRedPill24/01/18 08:10 PM
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I type all that shit, and that’s what you got from it? Just... wow. So, I actually quoted the part from the end, since I kind of zoned out the first time I read your paragraphs so I just responded to your last point. This statement you just made ("I type all that shit...?") made me reread your long response, because it made me realize that you must have had a lot of gold buried in there. You did. Your writing style made it very, very hard to read what you were saying. (You clearly read everythin…
/r/askTRP22/01/18 08:09 PM
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Woman fights with man, man gets kicked out. I’ve seen it happen more than once was the man dancing at the time? (that you've seen it happen "more than once). as in literally dancing, by himself, on the dance floor, surrounded by women who were into him? doubt it.
/r/askTRP22/01/18 07:05 AM
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There's not a single comment anywhere on the internet of anyone who has ever recorded a woman's consent, where she later cried rape. Why? Because anyone who goes far enough to get her to say verbally "I want it" or "put it in" etc is already doing the necessary for consent. Prove me wrong. When have you, or anyone, ever had to use an audio recording? Never. This scenario doesn't exist.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/18 02:50 AM
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all right, you've given me an answer. I'm not sure anyone saw me as "beta scum" in my bluepill days, it just wasn't attractive sexually. it doesn't get panties wet. I actually didn't expect to be rewarded with extra leadership from redpilling, I thought it was just a sexual thing. (that it just makes me attractive to women.) so that's why I asked if I can just turn it off by blue pilling at work. sounds like that's not a great idea.
/r/askTRP14/01/18 02:10 AM
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got it. all this makes sense.
/r/askTRP14/01/18 12:45 AM
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this is not what I mean. It's not how women flirt. it's different. I know how to make it stop (beta game) but I wonder if I should.
/r/askTRP13/01/18 10:03 PM
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All right. Do you think that my recent promotion and greater success at work is due to my frame, or unrelated? (It's a new workplace, I have no direct point of comparison). Obviously my personal abilities have not changed.
/r/askTRP13/01/18 08:36 PM
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OK. But there's no such thing as not applying any game: there's no choice "don't behave in any way." My behavior so far is not "natural" to me, but I use TRP guidelines to good effect. Natural is if someone on another team / no reporting relationship shows an interest in me and I'm attracted to them,why not have a drink. But I won't do that. I just ignore those requests or say that I don't socialize outside of work.
/r/askTRP13/01/18 08:03 PM
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when alone just calmly pull your dick out. I see you also attended the louis c.k. school of management. Class of 2009 represent! Anyway the latest research actually says don't do this.
/r/askTRP07/01/18 05:49 PM
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