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It is also important to approach with the intent to take it as far as possible otherwise you will not be growing along the edge of sexual tension which is where pickup occurs
/r/seduction12/08/19 08:45 AM
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Its funny people thought this was a troll. This is a kino opener, to assumption statement with option to either go for deeper rapport or number close... its fairly classic day game esp regarding social circle (ie. People you will see repeatedly)
/r/seduction23/07/19 02:44 PM
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I would go with *hi five* "how's your workout going"? make a comment about what she is working out on (ie. cool you must be really into weights?) By now you are in a conversation. You can either just take the new relationship, and reengage next time you see her (probably a stronger frame, allow you to develop relationship over time). Or ask her if she wants to hang out some time and number (I'd say riskier because it forces decision right there before she gets to know you) Edit: not sure why dow…
/r/seduction23/07/19 06:55 AM
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Yea girls definitely care about looks. The phenomenon of a lady boner is real. But I do think an average looking guy with genuinely alpha traits will be able to attract attention in a way that a similar woman could not... Attraction is multifaceted, but I do feel there is some kind of difference between how men and women are triggered into attraction
/r/seduction19/07/19 05:37 PM
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But that being said, it is possible to display attractive character traits instantly, like preselected by women, non needy, leader of men, etc... and this can help set things off on the right foot... But this doesn't mean that "the deal is sealed"... So even if she is into you, it is more rare she would want sex right away. Vs as a guy, if you are into her, it is more likely you would be open to sex right away
/r/seduction19/07/19 06:45 AM
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Yes that's exactly how it works for women... women are drawn to an attractive character, and this can only be determined over a period of time and multiple shit tests... ​ This is the critical difference between male attraction (instant), and female attraction (progressive)
/r/seduction19/07/19 06:42 AM
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Same. I find talking to the 10 makes me really nervous, but has this affect of making all other women seem no trouble at all. So the 10 is almost a training target. But as in all forms of training, I keep stumbling and messing up. But she helps me to see the ways I am needy and weak. Her shit tests are equal to 20 shit tests from another girl in terms of the emotional effect they have on me. I like what Thsiswutafemnstlkslk said about that sense of neediness and validation. I think there is a lo…
/r/seduction10/07/19 04:19 AM
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But at the same time recognize that shit tests are part of the seduction process....
/r/seduction30/06/19 11:36 PM
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I think my article here is a great summary of a lot of stuff. Nothing specific comes to mind. Many teachers cover some aspect or another of inner game. One very helpful one was Alex Social's ideas of being "of value" (as opposed to "high value"). Here's the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3-EpyOrjBk
/r/seduction29/06/19 06:49 AM
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Set a soft target for yourself to have 1 conversation per day with a random girl about random things with no intention of hooking up with her. Just try to make friends with her (maybe at your school or work or in line for coffee). Or maybe even say you will just have a 20 second conversation and then move on... It can help you to see women as "just people". And have fun with it.
/r/seduction10/06/19 05:02 AM
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Comfort phase is about getting to know the girl. It lets her also know more about your character. This is important for women because character is more fundamental to attraction than looks to them. I would try to avoid porn and prostitutes, and focus on a period of time where you just spent time talking to girls and getting to know them as people without trying to sleep with them. Fall in love with how she talks, her face, etc. And try to open lots of random people to get practice at this "Comfo…
/r/seduction10/06/19 04:49 AM
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After attraction there needs to be an extended period of comfort. It doesn't sound like you are able to build the requisite comfort with women... And both you and her seem to get frustrated because you are trying to push directly from Attraction --> Seduction without the comfort phase.
/r/seduction10/06/19 04:42 AM
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Yea mate totally. I feel all of society benefits as individuals upgrade themselves and actualize. Love to hear your attitude on the nuclear shit test haha! I try to remind myself now that when I am feeling socially crushed and hopeless by a shit test, I am actually going through a kind of training to endure those types of situations. I will inevitably be stronger after it.
/r/seduction02/06/19 05:18 AM
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"The Natural" by Richard La Ruina pretty great
/r/seduction27/05/19 05:18 PM
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Sometimes there is fear of growth and development that gets masked as standards. Don't lower your standards, but explore the motivation behind them... Are you interested in having sex, or only looking for a new relationship? What are you seeking? This will help clarify your intent...
/r/seduction27/05/19 04:47 PM
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Ya man, I think that is still my inner "nice guy" who wants all girls to like him and not piss them off ever. I think my ideal situation is likely that every woman walking the planet is in a constant state of falling in love with me without me having to do anything.... LOL!
/r/seduction27/05/19 04:00 PM
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I think you have freaked her out. Better to get over the one-itis. It will have the secondary benefit of making you a more attractive guy, which could make her more of a possibility in the future...
/r/seduction27/05/19 04:49 AM
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It could mean a couple of things... She is attracted to you, and feels the need to bring up her boyfriend just to make sure things don't go any further She is really attracted to you and brings up the boyfriend as a shit test to see how you respond. Does it break your frame and you are needy, or does it roll off your back and you don't care because you are who you are She is just sharing something about her own life so you know her better It sounds that she likes you, but maybe she cares a lot f…
/r/seduction27/05/19 04:35 AM
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Richard La Ruina's "The Natural" has the best primer on meaningful conversations imo. Definitely recommend reading it. He focuses on building "links" in conversations, which essentially comes down to finding a way to build upon something she has already said in your own voice, and then going deeper. And being aware of three main phases of interaction, Sociable, Comfort, and Seduction... each has its own vibe.
/r/seduction27/05/19 04:31 AM
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your problem is actually a, deep seeded hesitation and inability to escalate, because you're uncertain... i've been in that situation, plenty, where you are basically "scared" of it working out... when you get to the point of not getting anxious just talking to girls, you start to get anxious about it actually working out...i would say this is definitely a part of your problem Fair enough amigo, thank you so much. I really think this is the issue. I'm guessing the only way to get through this is…
/r/seduction27/05/19 01:42 AM
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I hope I didn't seem bitter, more just wondering how to leave an interaction on good terms with a girl that I decide not to escalate on beyond a certain point. For example she is cute, we have good rapport, as we talk a bit more and I realize we have different philosophies on life. So I am not keen to escalate, but I still want her to know I think she is a cool person and I enjoyed the conversation. But she ends up pissed off. Perhaps there is a part of me that is afraid to escalate... but there…
/r/seduction26/05/19 10:10 PM
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Thank you. I think I realize that on some level I am processing the beta and AFC out of me through questions like this...
/r/seduction19/05/19 08:51 PM
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If you are being rejected before you even open your mouth, body language is likely a major culprit. I would try walking 1/3 to 1/4 your usual speed. Really slowly, and walk with a calm and self assured air. Remember the woman has no idea who you are, so can only be going off your vibe. Try to slowly walk through a space, see if somebody gives you an indicator of interest, and then open them
/r/seduction04/05/19 10:50 PM
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I sent a girl such a long text the other night it is now called “A Song of Fire and Ice” and will be releasing on Netflix over six seasons. Never heard back...
/r/seduction02/05/19 07:33 PM
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write one of those pages on calibration
/r/seduction01/05/19 05:46 AM
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Been thinking a lot about this the past few days. Especially your idea about there being an "unstable attraction" if it is all you running after her windows. I think you are spot on about responding to her windows at the outset, when you are pouring the energy into the dynamic. And then at some point, perhaps the comfort phase, taking a step back, and giving her your own escalation windows. Framing yourself as the prize and letting her chase your validation. I do think as you point out that wome…
/r/seduction01/05/19 02:28 AM
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So I've been dealing with something similar recently on a smaller scale. It was a girl I had an emotional connection to. And so although there were many other encounters with other women after her to varying degrees, my mind would still go back to the original girl. It was only when I had an emotional connection with a new woman that came close to what I had with the original, that my mind now had a new lever to hold on to. And I was wiser this time round, so although I had this emotional connec…
/r/seduction30/04/19 04:32 AM
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Really important post. Not everybody will have issues with these, but if people are struggling, then taking a hard look at Porn and Sugar can likely raise inner game by a huge amount.
/r/seduction30/04/19 04:17 AM
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Honestly I believe you have but never saw them. There are all types of girls on the spectrum, and someone somewhere has found you cute but you may have been waiting for the right moment or were unsure how she felt. If you start walking the path of seduction and level up inner game, fashion, body language, and all of those "surface level" traits, you will definitely start to see escalation windows. And technically I think escalation windows continue all the way through to sex, so it is a common p…
/r/seduction26/04/19 01:25 AM
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Check out Models by Mark Manson. Part of being in your masculine is becoming ok with being rejected. Attractiveness levels can be improved with time (becoming more calibrated through lots of attempts, better fashion, better body language). Explore body language related to PUA... it is surprising the response you can get just by walking and moving slower, kind of remarkable really. Good luck
/r/seduction26/04/19 12:16 AM
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Messed up on this point exactly a few weeks ago. Thought girl was leaving town so I became prudish despite her clear indicators of interest, and ignored her next time we were alone so as to not lead her on. Rather than entering friend zone, she turned into uber bitch mode. So many better ways I could have handled it. But it was the shock that brought me back to seduction. I need to learn how to successfully land girls into friend zone if I am unwilling to escalate, rather than having them hate m…
/r/seduction25/04/19 11:54 PM
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100%. I need to incorporate this more, I'm way too in my head.
/r/seduction25/04/19 11:51 PM
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Great nuance
/r/seduction25/04/19 11:50 PM
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I had a girl totally dig me and I gave a few pronounced indicators of interest back. She made a lot of welcoming gestures to me to show me that she wanted me to escalate. And then we had a moment where we were alone together and I didn't escalate (because I thought she was leaving the country), and in fact made a concerted effort to show her that I didn't care, and she threw me under the bus for the rest of the time we were around each other (was a short group trip). Lucky I had a lot of social …
/r/seduction25/04/19 05:31 AM
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I would posit the idea that Alpha and Beta are stances which transcend gender. However, there are "gendered" inflections of Alpha and Beta. These gendered forms may be rooted in culture, but that culture is also in turn rooted in biology. In a gender fluid world, people are able to embrace variations across the spectrum. However, success in the business world is not the same as success in dating. The more a woman is "in her feminine", the more she will be drawn towards a man who is "in his mascu…
/r/seduction25/04/19 04:46 AM
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100%. Seduction is a powerful path of self transformation.
/r/seduction22/04/19 09:21 PM
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Focus on making yourself the coolest guy you can be. What does that look like, what is he wearing, what is he doing? I think if you can create that vision in your mind, and then anchor that vision with daily journaling and taking steps to materialize that being, then it might be helpful to move you forward from your current position. It does sound like you are totally underground at the moment emotionally, so before you try to ramp up expectations on that needy part of yourself, just give yourse…
/r/seduction22/04/19 02:48 AM
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There is nothing humiliating about being a man who knows what he wants and goes for it. Things will go south however if you display neediness or that her opinion affected you. In her presence don't be supplicating, or bitter, just be neutral gray. It is your willingness to take action in the face of rejection which exemplifies attractive alpha male behavior
/r/seduction17/04/19 05:05 AM
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Fair enough. Though your initial comment seemed pretty bleak, like the guy has no hope left. Might push him away from trying at all, which seems to go against what you think he should do as well. But you are the PUAGrinch so there's that
/r/seduction17/04/19 02:42 AM
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Many top PUA were really late bloomers (Mystery, Gambler, etc). Also, women's peak sexual value is in 20s, for men it is 30s.
/r/seduction17/04/19 12:55 AM
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Yea I totally relate. This is one of the paradox of pick up... Too needy = creeper Too weak = friend zone Either way you don't get the girl. Often we want to prove how "non needy" we are, which is fine, but there is no chance for sexual tension to be generated, and the girl has no clue of your interest. This is why I think volume of approaches is fundamental, because it creates calibration for what is too much on one side or the other. Also, each girl is different, so "just right" is actually a …
/r/seduction16/04/19 10:26 PM
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You need to establish a kino rapport. Handshakes are less effective at this than a hug. Also you will show value and confidence if you act like the height is not a big deal while still doing what you need to do.
/r/seduction16/04/19 02:55 PM
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Ya there's a lot to get into with day game, so its kind of hard to give specific ideas. But I would say the A+ thing you did was actually walk up to a girl. Just by doing that, you already did the right thing. You may over time try out a template like this... - Stop the girl in a calm way - Speak slowly and tell her u: "I know this is really random, but can I tell you something?" h: "Yes" u: "I literally just saw you walking by, and I had to tell you that you looked really nice" (be clear why yo…
/r/seduction16/04/19 04:50 AM
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Apart from learning day game theory (Yad is a great resource), I would recommend clocking a lot of approaches. Just do a lot of approaches and you will undoubtedly learn and improve and become smoother. If you mix that up with some theory, it will help a lot. Maybe aim for like 5 approaches every few days, see where you land up after 6 months.
/r/seduction16/04/19 02:33 AM
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I like your attitude here. You have a nice energy about all of it. It does seem like she feels a bit smothered for whatever reason (could be entirely her issue) even if she thinks you are cute etc. I think you need to amplify your own value and also introduce sexual tension. It feels like you are being friendzoned rather than being seen as a prize to catch. You could roll off for a while, and that could neutralize some of the clinginess, but at the end of the day she would still need some sexual…
/r/seduction16/04/19 02:11 AM
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Ok, firstly it is gonna be a bit of a leap to go from emotional devastation right into two Euro honeys. Just keep that in mind right off the bat. Don't set yourself up with insane expectations. Already I can see your statement "if I screw this up it will sting for long time" as extremely problematic. It's just not the kind of attractive mindset that women are interested in, and they can "smell" that kind of desperation as well. It is extremely needy, which is the opposite mindset of a successful…
/r/seduction16/04/19 01:01 AM
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Ok so the above structure holds (in terms of using assumptions rather than questions to initiate the convo), I am just creating fake conversation below to expand on the idea of riffing ​ Here's what riffing is not... You will see it is more of an interview: you: "what's your name?" her: "Jane" you: "Cool where are you from?" her: "Colorado" you: "Nice, so are you in town on vacation?" her: "No I'm visiting family" you: "Nice, so you like bowling huh?" ​ Riffing means you spend a bit of time blab…
/r/seduction15/04/19 11:30 PM
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Step 1 Start off by making assumptions about her you: "you must be an artistic type" her: "no actually I'm in business" ​ Step 2 Next riff on what she just said, and then make another assumption. Note it is important that you riff on what she said, don't just jump into another question. When you are riffing, you are "investing" in the conversation, giving her a chance to see you. you: "business can be a pretty crazy world, I mean people can be really cut throat. And the media talks about how peo…
/r/seduction15/04/19 11:10 PM
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Analysis is always easier than being the guy in the moment ; ) Sounds like you had a fun time with a cool girl who was really into you, and nobody can take that away from you.
/r/seduction15/04/19 09:50 PM
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While you guys were smoking weed that was an escalation window. The whole frame was a pretty direct one because it was a Tinder date. Because you did not escalate smoothly (kino escalation) she fell into auto rejection and your value dropped in her eyes. Now your value is tarnished and it will be hard to recover. She has also rejected you twice, further reducing attraction. Best chance would be to go cold for a bit, and then invite her out to something casual. But be ok to learn from the experie…
/r/seduction15/04/19 08:46 PM
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Talking about marriage freaks people out
/r/seduction15/04/19 08:18 PM
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I think you should seduce her. Kino escalation. Subtle hints and cues. Line up the kiss and get her ready for it. Don't just confess to her (will feel like splash of cold water), and don't just kiss her out of nowhere (will spook her). You must seduce her, warm her up, build intense desire in the moment, and then kiss her. She is a grown woman, so no need to hold the bag for her boyfriend. That is her business to decide, not yours.
/r/seduction15/04/19 04:48 PM
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Yes totally true. Fapping reduces motivation and interest in women, also aggression. I notice when I don’t fap for a few weeks I become really heavy and intense and also get a “I don’t fucking care” attitude which are all very alpha trait. When I fap I am light like the wind. It’s totally true.
/r/seduction14/04/19 10:53 PM
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