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discussionellipticcurve5/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/21 11:33 PM
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discussionellipticcurve5/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/21 07:59 PM
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discussionellipticcurve5/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/21 04:16 PM
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TERF population and the fucking batshit crazy number of tankies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/21 09:04 PM
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Yeah I'm actually really happy to see this from that sub. People calling out people on bullshit. Hope it continues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/21 04:16 AM
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I don't usually comment on this shithole of a sub and I agree that it is populated by mostly redpill addicts that generalize women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 10:22 PM
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If you don't want women to be generalized (through data, no less), then you should stop generalizing men, which is what you did in your comment. In fact, this generalization was exactly what sparked the other person to share data that showed exactly the opposite of what you were purporting: I think a lot of guys prefer a woman who looks up to him, or who is more dainty feminine cute and tiny, and I’ll just never fit that ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 03:38 AM
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Yeah, a male analogue to this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/21 08:00 PM
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Well it is easy to check just by doing vice versa. Men's Lib is the 4th/6th highest posters on WVP and TrollX.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/21 05:04 PM
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That is basically what I'm saying.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/21 05:43 AM
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Well it is pretty easy to see that the average Men's Lib poster also posts in WitchesVsPatriarchy and TrollXChromosomes. It is a very easy conclusion from there to see that the average Men's Lib poster is actually a woman. Men are not interested in talking about their issues while being "monitored" by women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/21 11:06 PM
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Reddit is pressured by its community. This has been a thing since it began.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/21 04:41 PM
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Reddit can ban whatever it wants. The reddit community will force it (reddit admin) to bend to their will. If you don't like what reddit is banning, you are free to leave.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/21 04:19 PM
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GenderCritical and the like were banned like a year ago. I agree with you, to an extent. However, Reddit faces a lot of pressure from its users, and MGTOW was top of the list for banning on the users' minds.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/21 04:11 AM
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Yes, PinkPill was a terrible sub, and probably slightly worse than MGTOW, but it was banned like a year ago. FDS has mods that were also mods on pink pill and it does have a lot of misandry, but again, MGTOW was not banned for misogyny, it was banned for outright threats of violence. FDS is extremely misandric and sexist, but I rarely see comments that support violence (and the moderation adheres to reddit TOS much better). TrollX does have some misandry, but it is a far cry from FDS or MGTOW an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/21 04:07 AM
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I'm really not sure that claim is true. MGTOW had some horrible shit. It's not just that it was misogynistic. There was more to it than that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/21 12:22 AM
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Yes, I pointed out that the r/misandry ban was completely idiotic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/21 12:16 AM
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This person on MGTOWBan thinks it is related, but perhaps not directly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/21 06:28 PM
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also nametheproblem.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 04:33 AM
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Redpill and blackpill subs are plentiful and have steady traffic Which ones? I've been on reddit for quite a long time (though my account age doesn't reflect it), and there are quite a few subs that were like this a couple years ago, although a similar amount of misandric subs existed until early last year. Many of them have since gotten banned. So, I'm curious to know which 'misogynistic' subs are still allowed to exist and have been gaining popularity sitewide.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/21 05:15 PM
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Is that actually true? Because in that case they are just oblivious to the fact that when they are a mod and say "men shouldn't be in charge of anything" while locking threads and banning people that disagree with them they are being hilariously hypocritical.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/21 05:02 PM
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Further proof that modern feminist lingo has been tainted by the ruling class.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/21 03:31 PM
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Awkward the turtle is now modding r/BlatantMisogyny so more linkage between "womanosphere" subs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 09:14 PM
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Vaush is a major voice in "breadtube", the group of leftist YouTube and Twitch content makers. He is most definitely a feminist, and generally has trash opinions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/21 05:04 PM
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Neoliberalism is basically synonymous to economic conservatism. Social policy doesn't matter - whether the social stance is progressive or conservative, if the economic policy favors "eliminating price controls, deregulating capital markets, lowering trade barriers" and reducing, especially through privatization and austerity, state influence in the economy. Essentially, it is deregulating markets to help benefit corporations. Anyone that says that market capitalism is good, essentially. Sociall…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/21 12:51 AM
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This is so obvious, it is the premier form of anti-unionism that corporations utilize. It is a way to maintain the status quo while claiming that the status quo is changing. They are just using a different demographic of the ruling class to maintain said status quo.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/21 12:44 AM
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This is what feminists claim happens the majority of the time (use Brock Turner example often). I feel like there once was a rape culture, since that often did happen in the past, but society is well past the point of apologizing for male rapists, but will gladly continue to apologize for female rapists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/21 12:42 AM
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Well I'm a little opposed to stupidpol since while often having good stuff in there, you also have the Chinese tankie bots that are essentially just there to spread propaganda about the US. I commented on a post around the time that the US flew a missile over Iran and some Iranian official said that we "should spend more on healthcare and less on military". Basically, the premise of what he said is wrong: we already spend nearly twice as much a year on healthcare than on our military, its just t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/21 12:35 AM
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This is hilarious, because the people that are being talked about are not actually radicals. They just want to maintain the status quo when it is beneficial for them while eliminating the things they don't like. They maintain the facade of being oppressed while being an integral part of the ruling class. It is a method to divide and conquer the proletariat. Rather than the oppressed classes banding together, they are now divided because of essentialism. This is exactly why all the millionaire co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/21 12:26 AM
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Shoe does not classify herself as distinctly anti-feminist, and she is somewhat of a pet project of Vaush at this point. She does often criticize shallow or downright stupid things companies do to virtue signal. She also ridicules rad fems. But she is being more and more influenced by Vaush and I think that she should either split from being associated with him or she is going to lose my support.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/21 12:00 AM
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On the other hand, I tend to be far more timid in a live/vocal debate than one that happens with text. Generally speaking, I don't like to say things that I may later regret saying, and that seems to be how this particular MRA also seems to be approaching the debate. On the other hand, I don't hold back when it comes to text because it is quite easy to take my time and be fully researched by the time I publish what I say, whereas in a vocal debate, the response has to be relatively spontaneous. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/21 04:11 PM
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top comments are
/r/MensRights11/06/21 05:57 PM
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Wrong. Look at tumblr. Or if you want an even more fringe one, look at spinster.xyz.
/r/MensRights29/05/21 10:14 PM
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Hmm... yeah, but I don't think saying sexism immediately invalidates someone's name. Again, ideologies, not labels.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/21 04:53 PM
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It’s not supposed to address systemic issues men face. It’s very blatantly obvious that it’s targeting the systemic issues women face. Then what is the point of NOMAS? There are already hundreds, maybe thousands of organizations targeting systemic issues women face. I'm trying to find feminist organizations that support systemic issues men face, since feminism is about 'equality' right? I'm not finding anything... but to suggest that it hasn’t hurt women worse is just fucking insanity. See, even…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/21 04:23 AM
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Well what I meant is that it is meant as something that doesn't actually address systemic issues men face. Essentially, it continues to blame men, while acting as a feminist version of what they think a men's rights group should look like. This becomes painfully obvious when you read their 'tenets' section: Whatever psychological burden men have to overcome, women are still the most universal and direct victims of our patriarchy Would they say that to a male rape victim? Would they say that to a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/21 11:58 PM
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Yeah, I agree, but this seems much more mainstream. It seems to be a kind of 'disclaimer' group for feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/21 09:14 PM
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it looks like a smokescreen. Yup, that's what I thought as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/21 08:45 PM
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Yeah, I did have a problem with the name, but if you look at some things that they have done, they do fight for some good things (i.e. equal custody). Also sexism is gender neutral, so it isn't as bad as I expected.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/21 08:30 PM
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None of those things indicate consistent strong support for lack of male rights or how they are viewed in society. Disappointing to say the least for a movement that claims to be about equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/21 08:29 PM
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male advocacy they have within feminist circles Like what exactly? MensLib is literally the most I have ever seen a feminist do for men's advocacy. feminist brand of male advocacy The issue is that they don't even have a brand of male advocacy to criticize. Point me to anything, literally any one thing that the feminist movement has done to improve the lives of men. Want proof? Look up 'feminist male advocacy'. These are the first results: https://data.em2030.org/stories/feminist-men-advocating-…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/21 07:45 PM
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This is essentially saying that opposition to feminism is considered hate by feminists which isn't a good look for feminists. On the other hand, if MensLib is controlled opposition, that isn't a good look for feminism either. Overall, feminist either doesn't allow criticism at all or controls the criticism it receives.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/21 07:37 PM
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Angrily saying people shouldn't date rape victims as some form of retaliation agaojst women makes no sense. Angrily saying people shouldn't date people like Brian Banks as some form of retaliation against men makes no sense.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 03:15 AM
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The 2X post serves no purpose other than to gaslight men who have actually been falsely accused.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 03:13 AM
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I would like to explore the feminist claims of "unpaid labor" of women, and discuss why it isn't a complete picture of society. The claim is that men do most of the "paid" labor, and women do most of the "unpaid" labor in society. This is supposedly "proven" by the fact that married women have lower life expectancy and married men have higher life expectancy. It would be nice to see a strong counterargument to this claim.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/21 04:26 PM
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Puerto Rico has a homicide rate of 4-5 times that of the rest of America. Surely, having a spousal murder rate of twice that of the rest of America shows that spousal murder is more uncommon relative to murders in Puerto Rico. The first link you posted says that 30 women were murdered by their husbands in 2011. As a comparison, there were ~950 murders in Puerto Rico in 2011. That means that female spousal murder makes up 30/950=3% of all murders in Puerto Rico. Compare this with the rest of the …
/r/MensRights10/05/21 11:00 PM
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Why are we doing the same thing they are? We should try to stop them from doing this shit, not do it ourselves. I get its a joke, but like.......this is fucking petty.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 10:46 PM
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I'm sorry, they weren't banned. Unlike feminist groups, this commentor has not been banned despite posting contrarian viewpoints like these on this sub for a couple months. Being downvoted isn't a bad thing, especially if you go into a community that disagrees with your viewpoint. They are downvoting because they disagree. They aren't banning anyone for expressing opposing opinions.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 07:53 PM
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The person is a notorious troll who brings in bad takes and makes weird, bad faith arguments. Besides, they never engage with a reply that would be difficult for them to engage with.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 07:51 PM
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It makes me uncomfortable to know that I'm scaring a woman. Or a man for that matter. Even in a situation where they are overreacting. Fun fact! You existing scares me. You should just cease to exist. I wouldn't want to make a man or woman feel uncomfortable so I tend to try to avoid doing that. Doing what? The issue is that women are scared of men doing absolutely nothing and now men somehow need to change their behavior? I cross the street when I see a anyone coming because no one likes crossi…
/r/MensRights07/05/21 07:48 PM
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You need to agree on something to consolidate into a movement/group. That something is patriarchy theory. You can't just say everyone that calls themselves a feminist is a feminist. That is dumb.
/r/MensRights06/05/21 12:30 AM
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You aren't feminist because that's what you call yourself. That's like saying a rapist is a feminist because he called himself one. You have to believe in the core aspects of feminism. You identify with a group if you agree to their fundamental beliefs. Like sure, you can disagree on some things, but fundamentally you share some ideas, and hence identify with a group. Sure, feminism can be considered spectrum, but by most definitions, almost all feminists are 'radical' feminists, since they beli…
/r/MensRights05/05/21 11:52 PM
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I disagree, depending on your definition of feminism. I think you are getting too caught up in the labels and definitions to assess feminism accurately. Lets say someone says that feminism is about equality. Then you can call yourself a men's rights feminist. Someone who fights for equality on the basis of men's rights. Now, most feminists aren't like that. Those that believe in the so called 'patriarchy' are the ones we are really combating. By definition, these are the 'radical' feminists. Man…
/r/MensRights05/05/21 11:38 PM
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The issue is not that we believe that all feminists think the same. But to identify as 'feminist' there are certain principles that must be believed (the 'core' aspects of feminism: patriarchy theory). If you call yourself feminist and don't believe in those fundamental aspects of feminism, then you aren't feminist in our eyes. So it isn't about the label, its about the belief.
/r/MensRights05/05/21 11:32 PM
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You can believe the patriarchy exists without thinking men are actively oppressing women. In fact, that's what most people in the west think. So you believe that men are passively oppressing women. How? This isn't what 'most people in the west' think. Wikipedia says the patriarchy is " a social system in which men hold primary power and predominate in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege and control of property." Alright. Women have social privilege over men. I can gi…
/r/MensRights05/05/21 05:46 PM
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100% of jobs lost in December 2020 were women have a source on that? ok nvm found it. Since March of last year, men have lost 2077000 jobs, and women have lost 1634000 jobs. That means, in the whole of last year, men have lost 56% of the jobs. (source: https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea04.htm) same source that you used for the 100% of job loss in december stat Surely, long term job loss is worse than short term job loss. Most women who lost their jobs in December gained them back within a mon…
/r/MensRights04/05/21 09:31 PM
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See, but all of those examples only makes sense when you are comparing relative numbers of men and women. 100% of jobs lost is female implies that only women are affected, statistically. The issue is that there is no statistically significant difference between making the title gender neutral and gendered. Female workers are not more important, it doesn't make sense to make them the headline when they are not being disproportionately affected. Everyone is facing job losses.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 09:18 PM
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internalized misandry.
/r/MensRights02/05/21 01:41 AM
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I gave you more than one study lmao. You don't invalidate all the other studies based on one you can't read. Plus, it states their methods. There is a reason the abstract exists, and there is a reason why there is a 'Methods' section in the study. There is a reason there is a 'results' section in the study. They are summarizing what they did, and what their results are. You don't need to read an entire study to get their data or utilize the statistics in an argument.
/r/MensRights23/04/21 08:11 PM
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Its enough to read the results and methods... You don't need to invalidate an argument because you can't read the whole study lmao
/r/MensRights23/04/21 07:34 PM
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Hmmmmm............ r/SelfAwarewolves Did you not just cite statistics that were from studies performed in the same way? Or, maybe you didn't notice it. (Also, just go ahead and cite data from the results section or from the Notes section. I didn't pay for the full article either)
/r/MensRights23/04/21 07:21 PM
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Yes, it is. 11% of people who were already put in prison. This is not 11% of everyone accused. This is 11% of people who were accused and convicted of rape. This is 11% of those who were supposed to be proven guilty, beyond doubt. This is 11% of people who were supposed to be guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt. Take a look at this research: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10940-018-9381-1?wt_mc=Internal.Event.1.SEM.ArticleAuthorOnlineFirst. It shows a mind boggling 40% of rape accusati…
/r/MensRights23/04/21 07:13 PM
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This isn't about problem and solution. I'm pointing out that there is a high prevalence of false accusations.
/r/MensRights23/04/21 07:08 PM
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I read that article. It doesn't explain many things, one of which is the overturn rate of rape accusations. It cites this study, but in such a study, there is no level of proof that the women who were reporting to the researchers were also telling the truth. Anyone could claim they were raped to a study, and there would not be any consequences (contrary to reporting it to police). There doesn't need to be evidence for a woman in a study to claim she was raped. Of course, this doesn't mean what s…
/r/MensRights23/04/21 06:59 PM
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No, its not as simple as 'asking for consent' because the issue is LYING not when consent is misinterpreted, which is very infrequent. About 1-5% of rape cases get proven true and the perpetrator punished. About 2-10% of rape cases get proven false and the accuser "punished" (they usually aren't). The rest is never proven false or true. Worst case scenario, 30% of rape accusations that are deterministic brought to police are proven false. Its a lot larger issue than you think it is.
/r/MensRights23/04/21 06:42 PM
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Okay, what about the women who perpetuate gender norms, or the ones that victim blame rape? What about the women who oppose abortion rights, or perform FGM? All of those women are hurting women, yet why do feminists say its 'internalized misogyny'? Then I am free to say that those men that you are talking about have 'internalized misandry'. In fact, I'm right to say that. Men already have an inclination to care about women more than men. So, in fact, we live in a gynocentric society, since men a…
/r/MensRights19/04/21 12:18 AM
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