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Oh and with apologies, use social calibration obviously but just try to get in the habit of saying sorry when you actually fucked up or did something wrong to someone. Just stop saying it all the time
/r/seduction25/07/11 08:11 AM
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It's not that every male is an alpha, it's that every woman is ATTRACTED to alpha traits (sometimes consciously but most of the time subconsciously). There's a great post on Girls Chase, which is one of the best seduction/self improvement blogs I've found, about being an alpha male without becoming a stereotype.
/r/seduction25/07/11 08:08 AM
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Just don't wear every emotion you have on your sleeve. Use playful teasing, like she's a friends little sister or something. Actually really, just read the sidebar and the overall top Seddit posts. There's a lot of info and the more you know, the better you understand. There isn't a certain level of knowledge you have to achieve before you can use this stuff, just start reading and practice constantly.
/r/seduction25/07/11 08:03 AM
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Also, it seems that you overshare if you are telling her every little thing about yourself. Keep her guessing and get a little mysterious.
/r/seduction25/07/11 07:09 AM
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A couple things to point out. Don't apologize. To me, to her, to anybody unless it's absolutely necessary. It is a sign of weakness and women are subconsciously attracted to dominance (even if they don't know it) and are turned off by submissiveness. That's the way we were wired through hundreds of generations of evolutionary programming and that's just the way things are. That's not a rule, but that's the reality and you can appeal to the emotions that drive a woman's attraction towards a man b…
/r/seduction25/07/11 07:07 AM
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OP if you've only been studying seduction for three months..... How are you tired of living by the "rules"? It seems like you have a tiny bit of natural game going on and your brief introduction to seduction has at least increased your confidence to the point that you are making some progress without even really realizing what you're doing right. The seduction community is not about rules, it's about gaining a better understanding of what attracts women to men and calibrating your personality to…
/r/seduction25/07/11 06:35 AM
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It also looks like he was (unknowingly) building enough attraction that she was EXPECTING him to kiss her and actually brought it up the next day because he didn't. OP needs to look into IOI's and how to escalate and we may have ourselves a seduction machine in the making!
/r/seduction25/07/11 06:27 AM
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3 is reactive. Better to show you are in control of your emotions then seem agitated over poor phone etiquette.
/r/seduction25/07/11 06:20 AM
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Heyooooo
/r/seduction23/07/11 07:01 AM
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Any books from Gamber or Juggler you'd recommend?
/r/seduction22/07/11 10:09 PM
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No you're definitely misunderstanding the way things work. If you are naturally clingy, you have to recognize that acting "naturally" is going to push her away. I am "naturally" a nice guy who is overly affectionate and wears my emotions on my sleeve. When I started getting comfortable, I started acting "naturally" and since I'm not naturally that good with women, it screwed things up. Game is about calibrating your natural personality into something that is more attractive to women. You don't h…
/r/seduction22/07/11 09:24 PM
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Focus on her negatives, remember that all her positive qualities can be filled by other girls, and start going after new chicks. As soon as you start feeling stuff for other girls, her allure will fade and you will be wondering why you spent so much time going after her when there are so many better more attractive more interesting girls out there ready to fuck.
/r/seduction22/07/11 09:03 PM
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No she was definitely getting attached too. I got into game after an epic 6 months of the worst oneitus I've ever had and I was absolutely determined to not get attached to a girl who wasn't into me so I only started to open up after she was showing clear signs of romance. You are completely right though in the rest of your assessment. I should have held back on some compliments and made her work for my attention. I feel like I might be getting the hang of this though because she still wants to …
/r/seduction22/07/11 08:55 PM
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Yea that's the way I think too and I kinda figured that she was into how things were going because she wanted exclusivity & just had an aversion to the BF/GF title. I figured, I don't care what we call it, if we are acting like BF/GF, then I'm happy. When I met her I wasn't looking for a gf but things were going so well, I started to think 'this girl is everything I'm looking for, why bother to continue looking for other people?' Here's the thing. Even if you DO want a relationship with a girl, …
/r/seduction22/07/11 08:16 PM
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Well we agreed not to hookup with anyone else while we were seeing each other but I didn't start flirting with other girls in front of her until AFTER I noticed she was drifting and started reading into relationship game. Before that I was passively gaming other girls while she wasn't around but I didn't do it in front of her because I didn't want to screw things up with her. TURNS OUT, if I had flirted with other people in front of her, it would have increased attraction and kept things going l…
/r/seduction22/07/11 07:45 PM
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Absolutely. It's ok to pay her compliments but you still have to keep her guessing and make her continue to seek your validation or she will inevitably drift. The thing that sucks is I started looking into relationship game right as I noticed she had started drifting and i started turning the tide by backing off and being less touchy but by then, it was too late. She had already changed her perception of me. She told me that in the past she's had a lot of guy friends get really really into her a…
/r/seduction22/07/11 07:42 PM
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you should understand that you're awesome enough that any girl who doesn't want to see you is making a massive mistake. This just made me feel better. I feel like writing that down as a personal mantra for inner game. I'm confident and I understand the concepts of game pretty well but even if you are aware of what you're SUPPOSED to do, it can be hard to put everything into practice, especially dealing with rejection from someone you've become involved with and are moving on from.
/r/seduction22/07/11 04:33 PM
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Oneitus is illogical. Making a pros & cons list really helped me. When you're into a girl it's easy to ignore the things you don't like about her because you're attracted to her. Once you've realized that you're more into her than she is than you, focus on the things about her you don't like. Focus on those things and realize that you can get the things you like about her from someone else.
/r/seduction22/07/11 04:17 PM
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Since we were exclusive it did require a conversation but we were completely on the same page and she said "stay in touch, not JUST for booty calls either". Perfect.
/r/seduction22/07/11 03:32 AM
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I did, I just called it off. I told her this was fun but i dont think we should be exclusive anymore. She said don't disappear though, She said don't call me JUST for booty calls and we laughed. She def still wants to fuck which is cool. This worked out perfectly.
/r/seduction21/07/11 10:22 PM
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Yea dude, read my post. We were exclusive and romantic for the first month then things cooled off.
/r/seduction21/07/11 07:37 PM
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Which text? I plan on telling her in person later today that it was fun but we aren't exclusive anymore. If we weren't exclusive id just cut contact but we were very close for a while and now things are different. I'm not playing games, i'm being straight forward and letting her know I'm not stuck on her.
/r/seduction21/07/11 06:35 PM
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If I had oneitus, id be sticking around trying to get her to like me instead of recognizing our relationship has gone stale and moving on. I developed feelings for this girl because we had a deep connection and were spending ALL our time together for a solid month. Over the last several weeks, I can tell things have changed on her end and though I once hoped that we would develop into something more than just casual, I have the confidence and self awareness to recognize when something has run it…
/r/seduction21/07/11 06:30 PM
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We had a casual but exclusive relationship and for a while we were both acting like it was more than that. Now she's backing off and I'm not going to play games or get caught up in it, I'm going to move on to whatever is next in store for me.
/r/seduction21/07/11 06:12 PM
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right now, we are exclusive and I need to call it off so I don't get all oneitus-y on her. We agreed on exclusivity so we are together. for the first month, we were hanging out everyday, holding hands, going out together, being mutually affectionate, we introduced each other to all of our friends, and were basically acting like bf/gf without a title. it was a whirlwind romance and we were having a great time. This wasn't me getting more serious than her, the first month, things were very very mu…
/r/seduction21/07/11 06:02 PM
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We agreed we were exclusive but she said she didnt want to be bf/gf even though we were completely acting like a couple for the first month.
/r/seduction21/07/11 04:52 PM
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No one goes for more than an hour or two without looking at their phone. It takes less than 30 seconds to respond to a text and I know shes not that busy. I don't care about it happening here or there but when it starts to become a pattern, I feel like I'm chasing her. The fire has gone out. It's time to move on. She is clearly acting differently towards me and I don't want to trudge through a relationship going nowhere with someone who's not into it. I want excitement and passion not floating b…
/r/seduction21/07/11 06:24 AM
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I just did this & it def helped
/r/seduction21/07/11 02:10 AM
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This is why Seddit is more awesome than any other seduction forum.
/r/seduction20/07/11 03:28 PM
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Was this article posted as a big lost list of examples of what NOT to do? It seems to be the polar opposite of everything seddit is about.
/r/seduction19/07/11 01:52 AM
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Looking at things this way can save you A LOT of hassle. Ive ended up in relationships that were doomed from the start and put in way to much time & effort to "make things work" when I should have just moved on. It's easy to let your attraction to a girl blind you to the bullshit that you wouldn't take if you weren't into her. A good rule of thumb is if it's behavior you wouldn't tolerate from a fat girl or a dude, don't take it from an HB.
/r/seduction18/07/11 06:41 PM
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Well getting into Game sent me in the direction of self-discovery and self-improvement. For me, part of that is learning Game and part of it is learning new skills like reading body language and hypnotism for instance. I'm intrigued by the idea of hypnotism being able to modify the subconscious thoughts someone has. Im wondering if self-hypnosis can be used to develop inner game. I laughed off the Ross Jeffries hypnotism stuff but its not that far fetched that a willing participant can reach a h…
/r/seduction18/07/11 03:47 AM
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This book is less about covert hypnotism, like Ross Jeffries NLP but is more about using hypnosis with a willing partner to achieve crazy sexual experiences similar to tantric sex. This may not be about pickup but it definitely is part of seduction. I think this would fall into the category of building Demonstrations of High Value.
/r/seduction18/07/11 01:21 AM
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I think it was Girls Chase that recommended it. The first few chapters seem like glorified lay reports but after that he starts getting into the nuts and bolts of how hypnosis can be used to achieve extended orgasms and all kinds of other crazy shit. Apart from the hypnotism stuff, Look into "the deep spot" Can you recommend any other good PUA sex books?
/r/seduction18/07/11 12:41 AM
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I don't always downvote But when I do, it's because OP is totally missing the point.
/r/seduction17/07/11 11:12 PM
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Havent contacted her since the sex. She texted me "what are you doing tonight" and I told her "going out with the guys". Maybe ill give her access to this cock in a few days... If she's lucky.
/r/seduction17/07/11 05:31 AM
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I thought i did for a minute, then I realized she's cool but I really can't see us in an LTR. I psyched myself up and was going to call it off. I was mentally ready to say "This isn't working for me, it was fun, goodbye" and was prepared to lose her. That's the moment things seemed to turn around and last night the sex was great. With her commitment issues, i can confidently move on from this memorable but temporary casual relationship whenever I'd like with no regrets. As far as looking for a n…
/r/seduction16/07/11 03:04 AM
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I think this problem may have sorted itself out. After I backed off for close to a week without hearing much from her, we met at the bar and she admitted she was giving herself space because she thought that I secretly wanted to be bf/gf and she has a thing about when guys like her more than she likes them. [GAME IS TRUTH] I laughed and played it off really well. DENY DENY DENY with an unaffected, unemotional tone. Told her, I'm just looking to be casual and any hint of anything else was in her …
/r/seduction16/07/11 12:07 AM
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How insightful, That definitely added to the discussion.....
/r/seduction13/07/11 06:49 PM
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Remember, girls hold access to sex while guys hold access to a relationship. As a guy who initially got into game to find a good girlfriend, I find this quote insightful. A guy who wants to find a girlfriend (as I've learned) can't go into an interaction thinking 'wow this girl would make a great gf' because thats exactly when you get attached and start acting needy. You don't want her to go away so all the ideas of attitude of abundance and not putting her on a pedestal and supplicating to her …
/r/seduction13/07/11 06:47 PM
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Any girl who is truly interested will reply when you contact her. The worst thing to do is SHOW you like her. Show you are interested but don't get invested and make sure the fact that you like her is not coming across as neediness. You'd be surprised how something that we think is only in our head comes out in body language subconsciously. Pursue multiple girls and embrace an attitude of abundance. If she doesn't call you back... Her loss.
/r/seduction13/07/11 04:52 PM
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Before I read this list, I understood how to pick someone up but after the initial hookup, I'd start to act attached and totally beta. Some key points from the list that I found enlightening: The Golden Ratio. Only give her 2/3 of what she's giving you. She sends three texts, you send two. She seems interested, you act SLIGHTLY less interested. Flirt with other girls. I used to be the type of guy who ONLY had eyes for the girl I was with. By continuing to game other girls, you keep your skills s…
/r/seduction10/07/11 09:29 PM
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God is the opposite of Science.
/r/seduction10/07/11 08:38 PM
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Ok but how did the story end? You fucked all three of them?
/r/seduction10/07/11 02:45 AM
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Maybe it's just me but if I hear a girl is into church or is a practicing christian, it's a DLV for me. I'm looking for girls who are comfortable with their sexuality, use birth control, and are in touch with reality in general. Apart from having to suspend my belief in science to have an intelligent conversation with a Christian chick, they will typically want a relationship before giving it up and a lot of them are "saving themselves til marriage". BUT thats just me and I guess there are guys …
/r/seduction10/07/11 02:36 AM
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This is a good plan. Approach some guys to get things rolling. Game principles apply but with no attraction involved it def makes things easier. You should try to open as many people as possible in any social situation because as you mosey around, you will run into them again and continue socializing. Then next time you go out and run into the same people, youve built a loose circle of people you know and this is true social proof. Showing up with a few buddies helps but knowing half the people …
/r/seduction10/07/11 02:09 AM
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Women want men who are decisive and are in control. Dont ask her "where do you want to go out" say "we are going someplace awesome, just wait and see until we get there, it's a surprise.". Tease her & be the one in control.
/r/seduction09/07/11 01:05 PM
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Try to kiss her a few times and if she still resists, be her friend and make her a pivot (female wingman). Since her boyfriend is never going to be around, go to parties with her and people who don't know you will wonder if you are together. Women are naturally jealous so use this to build attraction with your target.
/r/seduction09/07/11 01:02 PM
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Yea, you don't have to profess your love for her to get her number and if anything, it makes you less likely to succeed. Always act like you are SLIGHTLY less interested in her than she is in you.
/r/seduction08/07/11 07:53 AM
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First impressions mean a lot but I wouldn't write her off completely yet. You established some rapport and it seems like you guys had a fun time but if she has already framed you as a friend, it may be too late. You mentioned that there was an AFC guy she was hanging with. The only way that you can avoid ending up in his situation is escalation.
/r/seduction08/07/11 04:40 AM
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Good practice but I don't know if there's any more than friendly vibes floating around. In order to succeed, you must sexualize the conversation and be more than the friendly guy from work who gets her what she asks for. You have to be willing to step on some toes and be willing to fail to make any progress. You didnt really do anything that could have been taken as straight up flirting. You played it safe. It sounds like though you understand some of the basic concepts of game, you need to look…
/r/seduction08/07/11 04:26 AM
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I have gained control of /r/thegame and I want to make it into a subreddit based not just on seduction but on all forms of Game. Relationship game, Pickup Game, Casual relationship Game, etc. I think a lot of people who could benefit from the concepts of Game write it off because of the sleezy PUA connotations and the deceptive overtones of the word "Seduction". Right now, it's devoted to the game where the point of the game is to not think about the game but the mod added me and said it's cool …
/r/seduction08/07/11 03:58 AM
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And I bet for most of the former-AFC's in here, the "little sister" is a girl they were attracted to who put them in friend zone before they learned game. Not all, but I'm sure a large portion of the white knight comments are coming from that perspective.
/r/seduction08/07/11 03:05 AM
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One comment made by a friend (not a bf) that was apologized for almost immediately is not exactly dealing with an aggressor. If he isolated and the guy continued to cockblock, I'd eject if it became a problem but I wouldn't go running because "your friend scares me".
/r/seduction08/07/11 03:02 AM
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This should be the top comment. I wouldn't have backed off if he wasn't her boyfriend and she was embarrassed. Don't know why most of this thread is talking about the actions of the AMOG instead of OP
/r/seduction07/07/11 10:06 PM
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That message sounds like you were trying a little too hard. Say you're going out somewhere and that she should go. Frame it as you are going out to do something awesome and whether she comes or not is up to her, no big deal. If she doesn't go, you're still going out to have an awesome time. Don't worry so much about Facebook or one particular girl. Get out in the real world and find social opportunities to meet people. There are thousands and thousands of potential girls with so don't worry too …
/r/seduction06/07/11 11:56 PM
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Read the Seddit sidebar, there's a section for acronyms. Learn the concepts because it will help you better understand the social dynamics behind game. DHV: demonstration of high value DLV: demonstration of low value AFC: Average frustrated chump LJBF: Lets just be friends FTW: for the win (that's not a PUA acronym, that's just Internet shit)
/r/seduction06/07/11 11:27 PM
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You have to walk a fine line. I think the key is small acts of chivalry balance out your indifferent, outcome independent demeanor. Show you have a soft side by doing little nice things instead of groveling and putting her on a pedestal.
/r/seduction06/07/11 11:20 PM
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You should qualify the girl as awesome before you bring up weed. You just use weed as the final push/excuse to go back to your place. This technique should not be used to try to "attract" girls who aren't interested in you to go back to your place because they will smoke and leave.
/r/seduction06/07/11 06:15 AM
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Make sure you hang out with cool people though. Cool interesting friends? DHV. Lame annoying AFC friends? DLV. Also having some hot girl buddies as part of that group of friends can be a huge DHV. Pivots FTW! turn those LBJFs into wingwomen!
/r/seduction06/07/11 12:31 AM
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Nope, the opposite. Saying you're going with friends means you are going whether she comes with you or not. Whether she comes is up to her because whatever, you're a ladies man with plenty of options, you are going out to have an awesome time with or without her. The reason hanging with a group is easier is because it's less pressure (more casual) to go out with a group than going out one on one. When there is a lull in your conversation you can listen or join in with what the rest of the group …
/r/seduction05/07/11 11:08 PM
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Read "double your dating" by David Deangelo. Search for the PDF online, it's pretty easy to find.
/r/seduction05/07/11 09:21 PM
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Good, now wait a few days (no texting convos!) and invite her to come out and do something interesting that you are already planning on doing with friends. Say "we are going to (somewhere), you should come" not "wanna come to (somewhere) with me and my friends?" Also, get some more numbers and be working on those to. Having options leads to less anxiety during each date because if it doesn't work out, no big deal! You have options!
/r/seduction05/07/11 09:19 PM
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If you're an Ent, inviting her back for some late night herbs is a sure fire winner. You can casually say "i could totally go for a joint right now" and gauge her reaction. If she smokes, she'll agree and you say "I've got some back at my apartment, wanna come chill for a little bit?" This has worked for me multiple times. When you start smoking, take a big hit and boldly hold her chin and exhale it directly into her mouth. She may think you are going in for a kiss but you stop JUST short of her…
/r/seduction05/07/11 08:19 PM
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Wait so you did or you didn't kiss her?
/r/seduction05/07/11 07:37 PM
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For triple points: * fuck girl in bathroom during class * get pictures & post in /r/gonewild * ???????? * PROFIT
/r/seduction05/07/11 04:43 AM
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Not for a bit. For good. Get over her because she isn't interested. Two things to keep in mind: * the more you text a girl before escalating physical contact, the more likely you are to end up in friend zone. When you meet a girl you are attracted to, you have to make contact confidently and quickly. Make the interaction interesting but cut it short before the convo gets dry. Get her number because you want to continue your awesome conversation with her later. It's sooo much easier to succeed wi…
/r/seduction05/07/11 04:37 AM
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I am naturally a very affectionate, emotionally-in-touch guy who used to always wear my heart on my sleeve when with a girl I was into. I am just now recognizing the importance of making her crave your touch
/r/seduction05/07/11 02:46 AM
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Met a girl after last call at the bar, instant attraction & kino. K-close within 5 min and got her to come back to my place which was a few blocks from the bar. We get back to my place and start making out, sitting on the edge of my bed. Her shirt comes off, shes touching me a lot, I'm thinking "i'm definitely about to get laid". After making out for a bit, she falls backward onto my bed to get into a horizontal position. She SLAMMED her head into a shelf that's attached to the wall next to my b…
/r/seduction04/07/11 11:26 PM
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You DO have to think about that stuff in a relationship because if you don't show dominance and practice assertive masculinity, she will lose attraction. Yes it comes natural to some guys but many more end up in relationships where the woman dominates and the man becomes submissive. On the surface things may seem ok but women subconsciously resent when their man does not fill the role of provider and decision maker. TONS of guys put up with unbelievable amounts of shit from their women because t…
/r/seduction04/07/11 11:05 PM
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Here is a great article with some quality info on relationship game (and what happens when you don't Game your relationship) Some key points I read in one of the other posts on that blog that are very applicable for relationship game: 2/3 rule: for every 3 texts she sends you, send 2 back. For every 3 signs of affection she gives you, give two back. Show restraint and make her crave your attention. Being too available makes women lose interest. no PDA in public (or at least very sparingly) Don't…
/r/seduction04/07/11 10:37 PM
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You are misunderstanding what Game is. You absolutely have to Game during a relationship or you will smother it acting like a passive beta male. Game isn't (just) canned openers and routines. Game is about learning assertive masculinity, confidence, and making yourself into a high value male. High Value males don't react to bitchy hissy fits from girlfriends/wives. They show their woman that they are in control of their emotions. High value men do not become clingy and smother their relationship…
/r/seduction04/07/11 09:48 PM
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How about "thegame". I've always hated the term "pick up artist" for multiple reasons. I got into this to get better with women, not to merely pick up skanks at the club. (Also, artist? Really? That's as retarded sounding as "sandwich artist") So yeah, I've dont refer to all this stuff as PUA, I call it Game, which encompasses the greater community of relationship game as well as pick up game. I've also been noticing that the majority of posts in r/seduction are newbies having trouble with the m…
/r/seduction03/07/11 10:36 PM
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Good work. For double points fuck her in the bathroom again DURING class. Text her, "follow me in 2 min" and leave the room, if she follows, you are awesome. Not sure if that would work but it seems like this girl is pretty comfortable with random sex in public places so why not
/r/seduction03/07/11 09:49 PM
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There is a middle ground between selfless humility and being an arrogant asshole. Confidence and playful cockiness can work wonders. You have to be so comfortable with yourself that other people recognize that and treat you accordingly. If you are too modest to project a positive image of yourself, people won't assume you are modest, they will assume that you are shy or unconfident which is the opposite of the image you want to project if you are looking to be successful with women.
/r/seduction03/07/11 08:57 PM
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Yes, being tall makes it a little easier but way more important than short/tall is confident/unconfident & assertive masculinity/passive submission. I'm 6'4" and it wasn't until recently that I overcame my AFC past. A confident short guy will have much better success than an unconfident tall guy. The most important thing to remember is that it's not your height that girls find unattractive, it's the fact that you are subconscious about your height that they find unattractive. Love yourself and b…
/r/seduction03/07/11 08:22 PM
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To be honest, the gorgeous Colombian girl I did a field report last week has been rocking my world all week. Now I'm just gaming to be social & make friends.
/r/seduction09/06/11 05:33 AM
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Think about this: a lion doesn't hunt his prey by running directly at it... It sneaks up in the grass so it doesn't scare the prey away. (credit: style) Girls like to fuck as much as guys do but they don't like being hit on. That's what most guys do, they walk up and say "hey baby you're sexy, etc". A PUA is different. PUAs don't hit on chicks, they just act so confident and awesome that the chicks end up hitting on them. If you say "you're adorable" right off, she knows you want her and there's…
/r/seduction07/06/11 03:30 AM
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I'm in a situation now that is relevant. I hooked up with this cute girl when we were drunk and spontaneous but afterwards, she put me in friend zone, despite my best attempts hook up again. After getting to know her better, I'm glad it happened this way because she is a great friend and hangs out with a lot of other attractive girls. She is the perfect pivot. We showed up at the bar together the other day and she told me the girl I was flirting with was giving her the evil eye because she must …
/r/seduction06/06/11 08:37 PM
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This is definitely the right frame of mind. The more that you treat social situations like not a big deal, the easier it gets.
/r/seduction06/06/11 08:07 PM
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Btw the exception to the age rule is the Style "Dog Years" neg. I'm paraphrasing but after you've established rapport, if her age comes up, if she says she is 22, you tell her that's like 29 in Girl Dog Years. She will be surprised and then you explain (without apologizing) that our society puts unfair emphasis on the beauty of women, so society treats women like their value lessens with age, while treating men like their value increases with age. I am probably not explaining this very well but …
/r/seduction06/06/11 05:57 PM
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Getting the balls to approach is the first step. From there you have to figure out the right things to say but sometimes the hardest part is getting up the nerve to get started. OP is on his way. He must make sure to continue to analyze what he did right & wrong afterwards and be willing to adapt and learn but he's on his way.
/r/seduction06/06/11 02:37 PM
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You are trying too hard. Just say hey what's goin on and talk naturally. Talking about a woman's age is a bad opener and you dont need to have a make believe friend to talk to someone. Keep on approaching, don't get discouraged. Be Outcome Independent and don't let failures get you down. Use them as stepping stones to learn and get better next time.
/r/seduction06/06/11 08:20 AM
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There you go, there are plenty of girls out there so practice an ATTITUDE OF ABUNDANCE. Every interaction is an opportunity. Greet people you pass on the street. Start a conversation with the middle aged woman standing next to you in line at CVS. Last night at this new bar I tried out, I was standing next to the bar, examining the extensive beer menu and randomly said to the girl next to me "woah, how am I even supposed to decide which beer to get with so many great options? They must have 10 di…
/r/seduction05/06/11 11:08 PM
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Agreed! Love it. I'm using that!
/r/seduction05/06/11 10:03 PM
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I see where you are coming from but you are interpreting "not giving a fuck" as not caring about improving your appearance, improving your attitude & personality, etc. Confidence to take control of your life for the better without looking to others for social validation is different than settling for a crappy version of yourself that doesn't give a fuck about improving.
/r/seduction05/06/11 10:02 PM
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When I started getting involved with pick up, I had to stop smoking for a few weeks to clear my head and get sharper when it comes to small talk and witty comebacks. I used to smoke (a lot) almost everytime I was headed out to the bar and id show up ripped off my ass. Yes, you can still have fun when you are ripped but I'm definitely quiet, less social, and more in my head when I smoke a lot before going out to socialize. Now I might take a bong rip or two before going out but I don't get ripped…
/r/seduction05/06/11 09:54 PM
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Not giving a fuck doesn't mean you walk around being an asshole/jerk. It means not walking on eggshells, afraid of what other people think, afraid of rejection, afraid of failure... I am socially aware but I don't "look around to see what others do" before i start dancing. I start the dance party and others follow. I don't give a fuck if I'm the only one dancing. My former AFC self was the guy standing on the edge of the dance floor, too worried about looking like a idiot when dancing to go for …
/r/seduction05/06/11 09:18 PM
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If it makes you feel better, I recently posted a lengthy field report that started out the same as yours... Girl comes back to my apartment to smoke, we are hanging out having a good time. This is where the similarities b/w our FRs end. I didnt get lost in my thoughts and was able to make a move and things started to get going. We are making out sitting on the edge of my bed. She falls back to lay on my bed on her back and she slams her head on a shelf attached to the wall next to my bed. She gi…
/r/seduction05/06/11 09:00 PM
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Not giving a fuck can help uptight guys jump in the middle of a dance floor and become the life of the party. Not giving a fuck can help AFCs stop being afraid of rejection and approach girls they thought were previously out of their league. Not giving a fuck doesn't mean you shouldn't self improve, that's the entire point of this community. It means that you have to have the balls to not give a shit if you get shot down or get your feelings hurt or fail. Not giving a fuck is the first step to s…
/r/seduction05/06/11 08:36 PM
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Hey if it works it works. I'm not one for giving ultimatums though. Maybe "do you want to kiss me" might have the same effect
/r/seduction05/06/11 06:04 PM
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As I later found out, she was really turned on by my singing/guitar playing at the art share/ open mic thing (the previous day)[ http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/hqfai/fr_day_one_dhv_instant_close_sleepover_head/]. For me, playing guitar and singing is a big DHV for me and I have met girls at open mic before but this one was by far the hottest and best in bed. I was dancing with multiple girls at dubstep night and when I danced with her she was grinding extra hard and giving me IOI's. …
/r/seduction05/06/11 09:12 AM
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Typically moving your face close enough for kissing while making strong eye contact is enough warning. Kiss me or I'll walk away sounds douchey to me
/r/seduction05/06/11 05:07 AM
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I NOW KNOW HOW TO MOONWALK!!!! Thnx dude, keep it up!
/r/seduction05/06/11 05:03 AM
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Good job overcoming some AA man. The more you approach, the more you realize it's not a big deal to talk to random people in bars and clubs. People go out to socialize and as long as you are genuinely friendly and not an asshole, people are usually pretty cool. Also, You don't have to go out to a club to practice talking to strangers. If you are friendly, most people will respond positively. You should have grabbed HB9's # as soon as you got sensed IOI's. The important thing is to not waste time…
/r/seduction05/06/11 04:57 AM
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CT
/r/seduction05/06/11 04:28 AM
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Yes it was
/r/seduction03/06/11 08:50 AM
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She is one of many options. Attitude of abundance, my friend. She's def girlfriend material but it's far too early too tell/care. 2nd date will be a much better indicator.
/r/seduction03/06/11 08:47 AM
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She woke up with a massive headache which at the time we attributed to a hangover. She was friendly but no kissing in the AM. She texted me twice today. She was going to come out for the party tonight but said she was going to recover tonight and hopefully we could hang tomorrow or next week. I have hope. She's gorgeous, I hope this happens.
/r/seduction03/06/11 07:13 AM
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thanks dude, i'm still working on it =)
/r/seduction20/04/11 08:05 PM
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i'm a pretty good musician. i front a band and i write my own music and people are usually impressed when we play. we recently opened for a band whos last album debuted at #1 on itunes. not to toot my own horn but we're pretty awesome. that didnt stop me from being a beta until recently. you cant just show DHV you have to exploit it. girls will not coming falling into your lap, you have to go for it. for me AA was in my mind the hardest part of it but almost instantly, with a random boost of con…
/r/seduction19/04/11 07:43 AM
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that sounds reasonable. i think once a week is a goal i can strive for. by the way the original comment in this thread made me think about my perverted early adolescence... "outside closed doors" made me think of when i was around 13 or 14, jacking off in the middle of the night in my neighbor's backyard, cumming into the grass. it felt crazy to do it outside. that comment triggered something deep in my brain that i had totally forgotten about until now. god, i've been a pervert for a while....
/r/seduction19/04/11 07:12 AM
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yeah its hard to turn of the internet but its been once in three days. better than 3-4x a day... progress?
/r/seduction19/04/11 07:04 AM
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new haven!
/r/seduction19/04/11 06:44 AM
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great post. i realized this recently and i am actively changing myself from the passive nice guy, to the aggressive alpha male that embraces an attitude of abundance... there are millions of beautiful girls out there. i am a high value guy with a lot going for me. all i need to do is be direct, and grow some balls so i stop ending up in friend zone over and over.
/r/seduction19/04/11 06:43 AM
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yea im trying to go from at least twice, sometimes as much as 4x in a day to once a day, if that.
/r/seduction17/04/11 08:53 AM
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no but there's a lot of natural sexual tension that builds up in your body, and i think relieving that tension (especially if its multiple times a day) fucks with your subconscious evolutionary desire to pursue women. getting into seddit/PUA literature is one step in the right direction but a lot of AFCs could probably benefit from deleting their porn collections and reducing how often they jack off. this is assuming that a large percentage of AFCs on the internet also have large porn collection…
/r/seduction17/04/11 01:20 AM
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plus i only hang out with hotties so this chick was SMOKIN
/r/seduction16/04/11 10:18 AM
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my critique is to get off the internet, talk to some girls IRL and report back.
/r/seduction15/04/11 07:13 AM
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this community is for improving your game. game involves body language and eye contact. words are a small part of your impression on someone. you arent going to close anyone on AIM.
/r/seduction14/04/11 07:44 AM
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