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And yet we see the weekly viral TikTok of a woman wondering why men don’t approach or compliment anymore and blame us for chivalry being dead. Pick a lane
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:27 PM
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I was using you as in you women. Stop with the nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 09:12 AM
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That isn’t a personal attack. It’s an attack on women just like you attacked men. Don’t play these stupid games
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:56 PM
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You are never deadass
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:55 PM
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You have got to be kidding me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:40 PM
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Okay how the actual fuck do they expect us to know which one is which. You may not be a monolith but why should we risk our status and potential freedom finding out?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:40 PM
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It isn’t malicious. It’s fearful. You asked for this. You wanted all the sowing with no reaping. Doesn’t work that way
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:37 PM
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Don’t worry you’re plenty harsh and insulting in virtually every other way to make up for it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:33 PM
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I don’t want kids. Especially ones that aren’t mine
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:30 PM
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Then the women need to recognize that about themselves as well then
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:51 PM
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I think women recognized their value relative to men better and invested in men earlier instead of waiting at the finish line
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:01 PM
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Ya you’re basically citing a blog for your data here. All of this is is discarded after that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:31 PM
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A bell curve doesn’t stop being a bell curve because you shifted it to the right or left. This is very basic statistics. Just like if everyone tried to better themselves and get the best job they could in a capitalist system some people would still be flipping burgers. Counting on other people not doing something is not something you as an individual can control. Not to mention that your philosophy essentially encourages you to root against other people bettering themselves. I’m not doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:47 PM
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They are the main way genz is meeting so that’s just factually false
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:44 PM
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It isn’t about buying anybody. It’s about not being used for what you have built. They should have invested early and helped to build something together instead of waiting at the finish line to date whoever crosses. How you twisted that into buying people ill never know
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:40 PM
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You can tell the kind of person someone was eventually. The truth always comes out. Especially if you go looking for it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:37 PM
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Most people are always going to be mediocre. If everyone levels up there will still be the same amount of mediocre people. Those people should be happy with each other and not shunning each other trying to punch above their weight class
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:14 PM
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You only think this is a gotcha if you don’t think women are a part of ‘everyone’. Why are you a misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:12 PM
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Settled as in she wouldn’t have dated him when she was hotter and he was still trying to find his path to success in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:11 PM
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Dating app data says otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:09 PM
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Those women are the ones who feel entitled to male labor after years of shunning those men. And those men need to stand up for themselves and not lay down for women who very clearly don’t care about them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:08 PM
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And women are a part of everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:06 PM
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Unless you don’t believe women are people then I continue to be correct
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:29 PM
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That’s only true if you don’t think women are people
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:27 PM
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We believe that the reward is legal security and access to our resources and labor. A relationship where the woman would have not considered the man as an option when she was younger is not built on mutual contribution either. The man had to work a lot harder than her to be “worthy” of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:25 PM
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No. You can find it. I believe in you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:16 PM
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In your original comment
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:16 PM
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So if we extrapolate that further you were saying that mediocre women, who fall under ‘people’, should not settle for mediocre men ‘mediocrity’. Glad we cleared that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:16 PM
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There is no mellowing out to do. It’s about not rewarding someone who didn’t see any worth in you with your love and time and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:13 PM
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Are you saying that there are no mediocre women then? Because the mere fact that I extrapolated a specific group from your general group you said in your comment does not mean I lied. So which is it? Are you saying there are no mediocre women or are you being pedantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:09 PM
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Are you saying that there are no mediocre women then? Because the mere fact that I extrapolated a specific group from your general group you said in your comment does not mean I lied. So which is it? Are you saying there are no mediocre women or are you being pedantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:09 PM
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You are the one asking me to explain the basic logic of an argument to you because you either can’t figure it out or are being pedantic. Either way I don’t think you have a good grasp of irony
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:01 PM
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So are you saying women aren’t people? Otherwise I don’t see the lie here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:00 PM
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Are you saying that women aren’t people? Where is the lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:59 PM
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She said women, of which the basic inference would be all women, should not settle for mediocrity. Given that most women are mediocre themselves, that is exactly what she was suggesting. Stop being pedantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:55 PM
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Being with a woman who is only with you for stability and security is letting life pass you by. You should not be rewarding women who thought you weren’t worthy of them when they were young when you are older as a man. That just makes you a tool in a gynocentric system.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:54 PM
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I truly do not care what you think you’ve heard of or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:52 PM
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Actually I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:51 PM
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She literally said that women shouldn’t settle for mediocrity. Most women are mediocre themselves. Hence she’s encouraging mediocre women to not settle for mediocre men. Keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:50 PM
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Women are also the vast majority of student debt holders that will be going into collections and tend to work at jobs that are the first to be laid off when companies make cuts. They are outperforming for now. When the recession fully hits that won’t be true anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:47 PM
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjBPYHuv/ here you go. A viral post about a woman complaining about how dating men means sacrificing her self respect. At least one of these a week. You done being pedantic now?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:46 PM
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You can think that all you want. But examples get posted all the time on this sub and are easily trackable on TikTok the fact that you will pedantically assert that I’m lying while not even lifting a finger to disprove me is proof that you don’t actually think I’m wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:40 PM
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In times of recession like we will almost certainly have for the next 5-10 years people partner up out of economic desperation men need to not allow women to do that to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:38 PM
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You are the one being pedantic. I don’t have to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:32 PM
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You are perfectly capable of doing some searching on TikTok. These women would rather blame red pill ideologies and misogyny for why they are alone than look inward the mirror. Mediocre women should be with mediocre men. Telling mediocre women to stop settling for mediocrity is creating a massive problem that women will be the source of.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:28 PM
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That isn’t what you were doing. You were creating a binary dichotomy with no room for nuance whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:11 PM
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The first comment under this post was sayurikitsune saying women shouldn’t settle for mediocrity. Holy shit. Do even the slightest amount of checking before you ask me to do everything for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:09 PM
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Stop being pedantic. I’m not here to cater to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:08 PM
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I did. But you’re assuming there’s nothing in between talking about your lived experience and stereotyping an entire gender. You are wrong. This is not a binary thing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:07 PM
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There are literally women in this comments section saying that mediocre women should not be settling for mediocre men. It is not the men that need to look inward on this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:56 PM
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You can say that all you want but to pretend it’s not happening or not happening in a big way is just verifiably wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:51 PM
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Literally just search “where are all the good men” on TikTok and thousands of posts of women complaining will pop up. I’m not going to do something that basic for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:49 PM
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Connecting something to a larger problem is not the same as saying it’s universal. That is a strawman. Knock it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:48 PM
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Yes. They are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:47 PM
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You absolutely can negotiate attraction. There has been a concerted effort since the turn of the century to make men more attracted to curvy women and to a large extent it has worked. There are also tribes in Africa where women wear rings around their necks to grow them out like a giraffe and the men think that’s hot. To pretend like attraction is not socially constructed is absolutely insane and not supported by any kind of empirical evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:47 PM
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There is a weekly “where are all the good men” post on TikTok that gets like a million likes with women blaming literally everything except for themselves in the comments
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:44 PM
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Connecting it to a larger problem is also valid. I think that’s where you’re getting tripped up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:43 PM
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It’s like a weekly viral post on TikTok of some 30 something or 40 something year old woman going “where are all the good men? I hate the patriarchy” with a million likes and 100k women in the comments going “yass queen slay”. It’s only going to get worse going forward too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:42 PM
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I think the thing that men really have to watch out for moving forward is not being settled for. At the end of the day women do want monogamous relationships and there aren’t enough top 20% guys to go around. Men have to unite and hold the line so that they don’t get used when they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:39 PM
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Women will say this and then call it misogyny when they’re single at 40
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:38 PM
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Your lived experience can be a manifestation of a greater problem and just because not all or not even a majority of women match that experience doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:35 PM
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Sure it’s unfair. But it’s a lot more fair for women when it comes to dating than it is for men and pointing that out is totally fine. Social change has always been about making unfair circumstances more fair. I don’t know why this has suddenly become impossible when short men want to make dating more fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:31 PM
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Begging women to realize that being morbidly obese is controllable and being short is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:27 PM
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Nothing about it is dominance. Nothing is stopping her from getting a bunch of drinks from dudes in Miami and having sex with them. It’s simping to the max. He would be better off buying her OF. At least then he might get to see something
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:21 PM
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The difference is that men don’t tell women that they value emotional availability and kindness above looks. It’s just about being honest and not gaslighting. Something women on this sub seem to be incapable of
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:17 PM
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Now you’re just making shit up about him. Editorializing his life to fit your narrative. The exact same thing I see women on this sub accusing men of when they talk about the cock carousel and other Andrew Tate stuff. This is just the woman version of that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:01 PM
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I assume when I get in my car I won’t crash. But I still wear a seatbelt and buy insurance, because actual normal people know that the world is very frequently not a nice place
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:14 PM
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It’s a literal biological fact. It’s why people who have had more than 7 partners tend to have a harder time finding long term partners. Manosphere guys will tell you this is only for women, but it’s just as true for men. Science is not a right wing talking point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:13 PM
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If you can’t empathize with the position then you’re basically saying you’re indifferent to that situation happening. She’s basically acknowledging it’s happening and saying she doesn’t care. That isn’t insecurity on the part of the guy. She acknowledged that it was a very real situation men often deal with
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:11 PM
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Nope. It’s for humans too
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:08 PM
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Nope. I’m a leftist. Just don’t want to be with someone who isn’t actually attracted to me and who has ruined her ability to pair bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:57 PM
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As they should
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:55 PM
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She was specifically talking about the men who have those standards and trying to figure out their reasoning. The fact other men exist who don’t have those standards isn’t relevant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:20 PM
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No. He’s not projecting anything. People are allowed to acknowledge reality without being insecure. If the reason a woman tells you she’s with you is that you make her feel safe and secure but not that she’s attracted to you that isn’t your own insecurity, those are the literal reasons she gave you. Stop calling anything you don’t like an insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:19 PM
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You are the one saying it’s an insecurity. You’re the one starting from that point instead of acknowledging that many men actually do like to live in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:15 PM
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If she’s with you because of external factors and not because she’s attracted to you then no that’s not insecurity, that’s just an acknowledgement of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:13 PM
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She was trying to understand why the men who do care though. So the people who don’t aren’t a part of the equation here. Also it’s not just conservative guys who care about that. I’m basically a communist and I wouldn’t date a woman who has likely ruined her ability to pair bond in a meaningful way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:12 PM
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What you fail to realize is that age lowers her status much more significantly than a man. It’s the concept of buy low and sell high for the long term. Not everything is about immediate gratification
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:03 PM
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The Y axis starts at 2.2. Every graph should have X and Y start at 0. This is graphs 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:41 PM
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Boy is that a misleading graph. The fact that you think this is some gotcha is actually pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:26 PM
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Show me the stats that say that then
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 03:29 PM
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You hating it does not mean it doesn’t count
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:01 PM
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And that is where you’re wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:04 PM
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It isn’t made up. You’re telling someone who is 5’4 that they can play in the NBA if they just practice enough and believe in themselves all while knowing there isn’t anybody in the NBA that’s 5’4. And then you blame them for their failure after encouraging them. There’s an analogy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:44 PM
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You’re framing this in an inherently flawed and ragebaity way and this doesn’t even warrant an explanation. Ragebait failed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:34 PM
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Because women will settle. Next question
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:30 PM
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Sure. Tons of men get settled for and divorced. That’s why the divorce rate keeps rising. I’m not saying only 20% of men do those things, I’m saying women only desire 20% of men. Those are two different statements. Learn reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:03 PM
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But showing up drunk and late are things you are entirely in control of. Your looks not so much. Again, bad analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:02 PM
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For every little mermaid you cite I can raise you a beauty and the beast or hunchback of notre dame or shrek. That’s why it wasn’t obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:47 PM
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That’s a bad analogy though. It’s not about what women are saying it’s about what they aren’t. They’re telling men they’d have a chance with them if they did xyz. But in reality it doesn’t matter if they do xyz if being v was a precursor to xyz the whole time. That’s something you should have mentioned before the xyz stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:46 PM
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I think they say they were gaslighted because women do a lot of virtue signaling about what they want in a man that doesn’t include looks. They just don’t say the silent part out loud which is that he has to be what they perceive as the top 20% looks wise to even be considered an option
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:35 PM
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I never said he was justified in killing her. I’m saying she had a major hand in creating the conditions for these types of incidents to happen. You’re reducing my argument to something ridiculous because any amount of nuance here would shatter your worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:36 PM
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He never said that. He said he thought he’d have a chance with her. That’s just the thought process of a horny insecure 14 year old. Do you really believe that launching a shaming campaign on social media after a guy asks you out, regardless of intention, is actually going to solve anything? Why is it that men are constantly being asked to think about women’s feelings but the same is not being asked of women? You are creating monsters and then wondering where all these monsters came from. I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:00 PM
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Always absolving women of even the slightest amount of responsibility. She publicly shamed and mercilessly bullied him. The term ‘incel’ did not even come up in the show until she used it against him. She created the monster she hated so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:30 PM
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Trying to publicly humiliate someone on social media for asking you out is not ‘standing up for yourself’. This narrative is out of control
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:22 PM
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Something which dating apps have proven is ostensively true
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:17 PM
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The problem is most of them only challenge women’s patriarchal gender roles which makes me despise the movement entirely
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/25 09:07 PM
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Yes. This is way more common than you would think. You are just coping because there’s a large subsection of women that contradict the mental gymnastics you do
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:28 PM
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Yes. I work with women who dress like that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 12:42 PM
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You think this is the only woman hopping on this trend?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 11:42 PM
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First you say that they were mythological mermaids and after I pointed out how you were missing the point now all of a sudden they’re just manatees. You are not very good at this game you’re playing. Nothing I said boils down to women are evil. If anything, what I said boils down to women need to take more accountability if they are going to be granted more agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 04:17 PM
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I really like how you focused on the fish tails instead of the fact that they tried to lure sailors to their death with their beauty. It’s truly incredible your ability to focus on the wrong part of an argument. You can’t even respond in any substantive way to what I’m saying. Everything you’ve said essentially boils down to ‘nuh uh’. It’s a sign that you are incapable of higher thought. Goodbye
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:51 PM
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I never said anything about collusion. If you can’t address what I’m actually saying then don’t respond at all. They wouldn’t call it office SIREN if seduction wasn’t a part of what they were trying to do. You pull this kind of shit and then wonder why half of all men 18-27 haven’t approached a woman. There is no objective standard for harassment anymore because any woman can take to social media with any story she wants. Also, when the societal expectation is that men approach women don’t call …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:43 PM
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You talk a lot about the first half of that name but not the second half. The half that’s clearly meant to try and seduce men at the workplace. This is why we don’t take you seriously. You want to play the victim even in a trend deliberately designed to seduce men. And then you get to unilaterally decide whether it’s seduction or harassment. I’m simply not going to take you seriously until you acknowledge that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:32 PM
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Men that tell women the same thing when they complain about men are called misogynists. That’s the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:12 PM
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Because women get much more out of platonic relationships than men do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:38 PM
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You’re adding in things that aren’t there. Of course you get for compatibility. I’m not saying settle for the first guy willing to commit. That’s such a pathetic strawman I’m questioning whether you’re even approaching this in good faith at this point. And when you have to go to mental gymnastics and personal attacks that basically boil down to “no u” I’m not going to take you seriously. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 04:11 PM
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This isn’t suspicion. It’s believing that the vast majority of men are simply beneath you, sometimes that they aren’t even human. This isn’t some safety issue. If it was about safety you’d be going to the guys most likely to commit and keep you safe. But you’re not doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 12:56 PM
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You created that numbers game by consistently swiping on only the same top 5% of men. Don’t make it a numbers game for men and it won’t be a numbers game for men. Easy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 12:25 PM
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I would agree but having too many options is an infinitely better problem to have than having none, especially when that none stems from something out of your control like height
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 12:23 PM
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Okay 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:18 PM
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That’s like saying fat women should read posts where men call women fat. I’ve never ever seen a woman give that advice to another woman
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:06 PM
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No. I’m saying that even if the percentages are low compared to what people have said they are that’s still a really huge percentage overall. If I gave you a bowl of 100 M&Ms and told you that 2 of the M&Ms from that bowl would ruin your life and send you to jail and the rest are fine would you still eat the M&Ms? Because if the answer is no then false accusations are still a huge problem
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 11:23 AM
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Not to mention that even if that was the real figure that’s still an incredibly large number. Like more than enough to give any rational person pause
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 01:20 PM
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Ah so when it’s women commenting on men it’s “offering advice” but when men do the same thing it’s a “paternalistic demand”. The framing is so transparently laughable it’s an insult to my intelligence that you keep trying to pull it off. Women have been prescribing actions for men to our expense for decades. We just want the slightest shred of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 11:33 PM
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In recent years men have been much more open to what they find attractive. There’s a reason plus size models are now on the cover of SI
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 11:30 PM
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So why is it that women are allowed to constantly comment on what men ought to do, but men commenting on what women ought to do is “paternalistic and wrong headed”? You can screech about how men just want to use women, but haven’t answered the post that argues women are using men. Why is it okay that women get to use men for their husband qualities but the moment a man comments on what women should be doing you lose your mind? Pick a lane. Are we allowed to comment on what the other gender shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:37 PM
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You’re bringing up the past in response to me talking about the present and what should be done in the future. You’re justifying women’s unacceptable present behavior on account of what people who are dead now, who never oppressed you personally, did a long time ago. This is such a non response
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:59 PM
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We want you to be attracted to qualities in men that you deem ‘husband material’ and not simply choose those things out of comfort later in life. Much societal pressure has been applied to men to attempt to change what we find as attractive. And to a large extent it has worked. The same needs to happen for women but no one, especially women, is trying to work on that, and therein lies the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:41 PM
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Standard of living in those places is good. We are talking Sweden, Iceland, Germany. Places where the standard of living is good, the sexes are equal, and the government is even bending over backwards to get people to have kids. No amount of appeasing women makes them have babies. That is what the last 2 decades has taught us.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:57 PM
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You can blame it on other things. But even in places where work culture is good and women have every right and resource available birth rates are still declining. The ideas of 4b are far more pervasive than you’re giving them credit for
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:21 PM
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So even though women are very much a contributing factor to the issue, attempting to make them accountable for the piece they are responsible for is just ‘avoiding accountability’. Incredible. The projection is so strong with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:47 PM
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If 4b wasn’t something to be taken seriously then south Korea’s birth rate wouldn’t be dropping below 1 in many areas
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:44 PM
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Nothing about what you said relates to anything red pill whatsoever. You just made up a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 02:53 PM
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All this this woman’s posts are just ‘make up a guy’. There is no substance to any of these posts
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 01:42 PM
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Nice personal attack man. Really killing it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 01:40 PM
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I never said it’s solely on them to find a solution. I said that they are a part of the problem and therefore they must be a part of the solution. Either stop twisting what I’m saying or stop responding
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 01:40 PM
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I’m not blaming it entirely on the opposite gender. But to pretend that women don’t have a hand in creating the conditions of the loneliness epidemic is just insane. Women aren’t allowed to go around saying ‘men are trash’ and treating men as such and then pretend like they are innocent in this. Take some responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:50 AM
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Ah so now you’re just moving the goalposts. Now it’s impossible to be lonely if you have a few friends. Glad this guy has solved loneliness so that he can explain everyone’s feelings to them. Amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:47 AM
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Why are you assuming that men aren’t doing those things? Why the cognitive dissonance? You cannot even fathom that a guy who has plenty of friends can still be lonely. Not to mention that you had to make it personal. Definitely the mark of someone that has a coherent position. Not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 01:09 AM
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Jesus what a pathetic response. Assuming that women have ever “momed” us out of anything is insane. Women have a hand in men’s loneliness, they obviously have a hand in solving it too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:34 AM
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Evolutionary psychology. Females naturally want to mate with males that are masculine (looks), have resources, and are leaders of the pack. In our society looks plays a larger role than the other two, so men who don’t have looks need to understand their situation
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:34 PM
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Because it’s in their nature. Time and time again they have proven that looks, followed by money and status are the traits in a man that they are attracted to. Everything else is virtue signaling and gaslighting. The best an unattractive man can do is understand the situation he is in so that he doesn’t mistake his relationships for what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:26 PM
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No actually. Because that can always be the solution any time any guy has a complaint about dating. The hamster wheel of self improvement is not a valid argument. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:18 PM
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You think it’s degrading to have to impress your date when that’s literally what men have been having to do for centuries now. These troll posts have got to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:11 PM
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Exactly. That’s why unattractive men need to understand that the dynamic of the relationships they get into will be fundamentally different than other guys. Their relationships will be transactional, and if they’re okay with that then be my guest. The problem comes with the delusion that the relationship is something that it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:10 PM
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There are no better women to choose. That’s just a cop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:07 PM
1

If you’re ugly women are never going to be attracted to you for you. You might as well have them be attracted to you for something instead of nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:04 PM
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Seeing yourself as only worth what you have and can do is different from understanding that women will only view you that way. That is the mistake you made here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:02 PM
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I’m really tired of this woman trying to tell men what masculinity should be. Anything to deflect any responsibility from women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:57 PM
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Even if mental and emotional traits could be displayed in a dating profile, it wouldn’t change women’s swiping habits even a little bit. Plenty of dating apps have tried in various ways and they all have failed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:56 PM
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That’s what blue pillers do. They lock you in a Sisyphesian cycle of self improvement. Don’t take the bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:37 PM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:36 PM
2

I think that people who give men advice on dating have too much of an internal locus of control. Both are equally bad and toxic. There is only so much self improvement one person can do before they have to look themselves in the mirror and realize they’re not the problem or they risk self annihilation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:35 PM
1

The amount of assumptions being made here. Unreal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:09 PM
1

Easy report and block. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 07:03 PM
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Just because I disagreed with the majority of their post doesn’t mean I want the exact opposite. If you are this devoid of nuance I’m just going to block you and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:57 PM
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Nobody said anything about having a singular partner. What I take issue with is leaving thinking you can do better. That’s just hypergamy, and every successful society has found a way to keep female hypergamy in check
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:48 PM
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You can be attracted to a person and still be settling. There are different levels of attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:20 PM
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You are assuming that settling makes you unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:20 PM
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You can say that all you want but there is no such thing as a perfect relationship. There’s a difference between having standards and settling. Not everyone has standards but everyone has to settle to at least some degree. Telling women that they would be unhappy with a guy that isn’t a 10/10 gigachad who goes on humanitarian missions and is also somehow a millionaire who makes them laugh is a recipe for disaster. The guys they pass up early in life learn how to deal with the pain of being passe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 02:30 PM
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That isn’t what the post is saying though. If you’re unhappy just because you can’t have a guy that checks literally every box then your standards are too high. Newsflash: you aren’t going to check every box for a man either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:50 PM
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Because most women do get the urge to experience motherhood. And if you throw away the guys that would make good husbands and fathers and make us jaded you will end up alone and sad. And no amount of wine and anti depressants will make up for that void
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:44 AM
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Okay so you want to chase Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:40 AM
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Because I have eyes and ears. I notice how they act towards me vs other people. Don’t womansplain my experience to me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:06 AM
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As a human being? As a person that matters? Come on now
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 11:34 PM
2

Who said anything about reciprocating romantic feelings? That’s your own projection I’m afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 09:16 PM
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You don’t get to tell me that entire psychological concepts aren’t real and then give me a civility warning when I point out that’s stupid. Stop hiding behind what minuscule authority you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:26 PM
0

But we are being abused by women more than we are abusing women. Even by your stats it was 186 women in 3 years killed by men. You’re using an unbelievably small number of psychopaths to justify casual violence against men in everyday relationships. That’s fucking insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 11:29 AM
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Again, you’re only looking at data for crimes. Not actual domestic violence. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/oFRAK7VzQq this comment links to a study looking at actual domestic violence, not just the kind that gets reported and is considered a crime by police
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 11:18 AM
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No we’re against it because you only recognize DV when it’s happening to you. Women are more likely than men to get physical in a relationship. Yet women only see it as a problem when it’s men doing it to them. Even in your example you prove me right because you only want an emergency for women despite that women commit more DV in relationships, you just don’t define it that way because in your woman brain men cannot be real victims of DV. Thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:11 AM
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Well they weren’t. And your outright rejection of an entire concept because you don’t like who uses it is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. It’s like if I said Catholicism isn’t a real religion because I don’t like that a bunch of catholic priests diddled some kids. You don’t get to just claim things aren’t real because you don’t like them. Are you 5 years old or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:06 AM
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Usually just in general. It’s a whole new level of shit we have to go through to be seen as a genuine romantic option and not just a tool to be exploited with the distant possibility of something like that occurring
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 12:27 AM
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My experience as a below average attractiveness man who went through 4 years of college at a big party school and every experience of men in my relative situation who share their experiences with me. The amount of shit we have to go through just to be noticed by women would genuinely bring any woman to tears if they had to live as a man. If you don’t believe me, just ask trans men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 12:17 AM
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You think men don’t see women as people in the same way women don’t see men as people? Ho boy do I have news for you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 12:15 AM
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I don’t think you know the origins of that phrase then. It was originally coined by leftists who were criticizing liberals for only feigning interest in helping the working class without actually doing anything. It was then co-opted by the right. To deny it as a concept outright is beyond batshit insane and you’re only doing it because it a perfect description of a lot of female behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 12:13 AM
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Exactly. Women have empathy for people who they see as people. Most men don’t fit in that category.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:16 PM
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You generalize us constantly. You’re acting like this is some new phenomenon you’re engaging in
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:14 PM
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Women are great at virtue signaling, which most women and many men mistake as empathy, but no, women are not more empathetic than men. Not even close
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:07 PM
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Yep. Just another blue pill woman blaming men for not seeking help in the way women want them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:07 PM
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It absolutely was. Video came out of him literally sucking off nick fuentes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 11:52 PM
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Nope. Women have no qualms about having men do the dirty and dangerous jobs and are making no real attempts to change the gender dynamic in that regard which would be the first step in having men separate from our gender role. When women were polled like less than 10% said they’d be okay with their husband as a homemaker. You are every bit as responsible for gender roles as men are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 11:42 PM
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Only if the conclusion you draw from it is that the blue pill is correct. Otherwise you need to cite your sources
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 09:08 PM
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I already told you she praised prominent feminists on twitter like RFH. And it mentions the red pill but doesn’t actually connect him to it whatsoever. It wrongly assumes, just like you, that the red pill is an inherently right wing ideology and therefore any right winger must be red pilled. This is pathetic. Make a real argument or take the L
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:24 PM
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Nick Fuentes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:59 PM
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She also hated men and praised prominent feminists. You can’t just ignore that because there were other parts to what she said. And nothing in that article indicates he was red pilled. He was far right but the far right is not synonymous the red pill. I’m a leftist, plenty of other red pillers are too. You’re gonna have to do waaaay better than that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:55 PM
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If women weren’t buying the smaller bikinis they wouldn’t be selling them. This isn’t some nefarious plot by the evil cabal of fashion designers to get women to show more skin, it’s supply and demand. Women are once again allergic to any amount of responsibility for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:07 PM
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But we have to care about whether people are looking or not? Kinda seems like a double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:05 PM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna184482 She wrote a manifesto that literally cited RFH (rad fem hitler) a popular feminist account on twitter. Your turn, how was some shooting in may 2023 connected to the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:57 PM
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That is quite literally what the red pill tells you to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:51 PM
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It isn’t homophobia to point out the destiny is a hypocrite for spouting off his ideology while quite literally sucking off a white nationalist. Quit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:48 PM
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I don’t remember the last time there was a red pill mass shooter. We’ve started having plenty of femcel mass shooters recently but I’m sure you don’t have a problem with feminism as a result
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:46 PM
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So now we’re supposed to disregard the data and just look around, but when a red piller does the same thing and reports on his experience suddenly we need cold hard evidence. The double standard on this sub is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:45 PM
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All of those sources essentially start with the premise that the red pill is bad. I’m highly educated and think education is a good thing, but academia is not a good place to look for the type of evidence the other guy is asking for. It simply doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:42 PM
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Identifying as red pill is niche. Adopting its ideas is becoming increasingly mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:39 PM
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Nope. I got it. You’re just trying to change lanes now
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:37 PM
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The point went right over your head apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:04 AM
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That whole thread is proof of what I was saying above
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:04 AM
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Idk there were a lot of shocked feminists on election night
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:59 PM
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I mean this more generally and not just in the context of this post. Although women constantly try to spin abortion as beneficial to men only to be shocked that the guys they aren’t fucking anyway don’t care about whether they can get an abortion or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:53 PM
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Keep doing what you are doing and we will keep finding it unattractive. Doormats love to say all the assholes get the women but what makes those guys assholes is the standing up for themselves part. Never once have i read of a man leaning to be more assertive and saying he regrets it. Where are all the stories from men showing that being a doormat is attractive and works well? Right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:48 PM
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Women have repeatedly said they don’t care about men’s issues. Why should I care about theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:46 PM
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It’s crazy how they don’t understand this. Being on this sub has awoken me to the fact that women are generally incapable of think from a perspective that is not their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:37 AM
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You’re right I don’t care. Why should I care about the guy who ends up as the baby daddy to a bunch of unwanted kids? Why should I care that the women that want casual sex with the top 20% of men are now having to face the consequences of their actions? Why should any guy who isn’t in that top 20% care?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:33 AM
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I love that sample you’re using as if those 7 are evenly spread out amongst the 250. Either you’re stupid enough to think I won’t point this out or you are not understanding my very simple point. Either way you’re not looking great in the intelligence department.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:28 AM
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It’s not about adopting something to get what you want. It’s just an understanding of reality. I wish the red pill wasnt real. The world would be a much better place. But it is. So it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:18 AM
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Do you live in reality? Are we even on the same planet? You have got to be kidding me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:08 AM
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That is literally what you were doing in the previous thread
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:06 AM
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They are there they just aren’t prominent now. And that was very deliberate. What I’m saying is that the same thing happen for men and you are so openly hostile to that idea it makes me wonder what your motivations could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:49 PM
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Women can be talented. But they usually aren’t as good comedians because being funny is what happens when you need to find alternative ways to get people to like you because looks aren’t enough. And as most women on this sub have reiterated, most men aren’t good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:47 PM
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Most of the pictures of traditionally attractive women have moved to OF to further exploit men. And you’re using an extreme example, to pretend like society isn’t more open minded to non traditionally attractive women now compared to 20 years ago is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:30 PM
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That’s because those guys are usually funny and talented and aren’t there for their looks. There’s a reason men are usually the better comedians
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:28 PM
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The last like 10 SI swimsuit covers have been non traditional models. There are dozens of non traditionally attractive actresses in Hollywood now. You think they’re still a token? Don’t make me laugh. Also I love how this ignores my main point in that we should be conditioning women in the same way we’ve been conditioning men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:16 PM
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Women have been attempting to do this to men with varying success for decades. You’ve been putting pictures of 300 pound women in front of us and telling us that this is what beauty is now. And it has worked to an extent. I don’t see why we couldn’t condition women in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:48 PM
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Weren’t you just going on about how you should die alone if you demand equality in a relationship as an unattractive man? Lmfaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:46 PM
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You talk about “having what you want” in one breath and in the next go “I’m not prey to be caught”. Incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:35 PM
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Having to be the perfect victim comes from a rejection from the feminist notion that sex can be in one second perfectly fine and in the next a crime based on the feelings of the alleged victim. Everyone who is sane knows how batshit that is and if feminists hadn’t centered what is considered rape around explicit consent then people wouldn’t be inquiring as to the victims actions and state of mind. And I never made a differentiation between male and female victims. You’re strawmanning arguments a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:26 PM
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Top 10% men will fuck average women if they’re around. They won’t marry them. Being able to be in Chad’s harem for awhile doesn’t mean you can pull him. This is what women like you seem to miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:15 PM
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Very likely actually. Your idea of what an average man and average woman look like has been severely warped by social media. It’s why women only swipe on the top 20% of men on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:07 PM
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Except that’s bullshit because men approach unattractive women all the time. Unattractive women lack the capacity and introspection to evaluate themselves properly and think they’re hotter than they are and can therefore treat men in their league like shit. It’s a product of a culture that tells women that they’re all 10s. Newsflash: you’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:01 PM
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The top 20% don’t have to. They barely even have to take women on dates. They can keep them in perpetual situationships where the woman feels like she’s in a relationship despite not being in one. Women use men for things all the time. You don’t like to admit it but you do. I can’t tell you how many dates I’ve been on where it was clear after the fact she just wanted something for free. Your logic only works if you throw out all relevant context.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:54 PM
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I think you’re misinterpreting why men don’t like to pay. Because women want 50/50 relationships in all other aspects but are fine leaving these gendered roles when it benefits them. If women went back to their traditional roles men wouldn’t have such an issue with ours. And here we go, blaming it on trying to date out of our league despite all the evidence suggesting the opposite. You’re just projecting now. And empathy has nothing to do with policy or action. It’s simply the ability to put you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:50 PM
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Ah so we don’t get the luxury of comparability and if we still want to date anyway despite not being afforded this luxury then it’s our own fault. The more empathetic gender strikes again. This is why women struggle to find good men as they age
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:22 PM
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Assertiveness from an unattractive man just comes across as assholish to women. You are so blinded by your own virtue signaling that you have no idea that you probably treat unattractive men considerably differently than men you find attractive. It’s like it’s not even possible for you to think about what it would be like to be an average guy. You cannot fathom a perspective that is not your own
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:20 PM
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The statistics do not bear that out. It’s women who are batting out of their league going for the top 20% of men while the rest of us are seen as tools to be used, dangerous, or invisible. The average man’s preferences don’t even factor into his dating because they’re a luxury afforded only to women and top 20% men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:18 PM
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They are though. That’s how that stat works. It’s been debunked so many times I’ve lost count. And yes, both insurance companies and potential prosecutors will be asking arson victims those very same questions. You act like making inquiries into a potential crime is something unique to rape. Also if every other crime has much higher false accusations compared to rape, then it’s probably an indication that whatever the statisticians are counting as a false accusation for rape needs to be expanded…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:15 PM
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Nobody said anything about seeking out highly desirable women. That’s an addition you made because deep down you know how hard it is for an average guy in a dating world where only the top 20% of men receive any attention or affection at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:08 PM
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Comparability comes second to being able to date in the first place. It’s a luxury for women who have become the gatekeepers to sex and relationships. The average guy does not get to think about compatibility when dating. Your perspective is so shortsighted that you cannot even fathom what it’s like to be an average guy in the dating world
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:06 PM
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You say this, but when the only date you’ve gotten in a year walks out the door because you ‘stood up for yourself’ all that virtue signaling won’t matter one bit. This is why women can’t be taken seriously when it comes to issues like this. Your virtue signaling and complete lack of perspective makes any advice completely useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:03 PM
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When 80% of women stop going for the same 20% of men you might have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:00 PM
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That statistic is BS. It assumes that any case that doesn’t see a guilty conviction means that the man is a rapist that got away with it. That would include people like Shawn Oakman and the Duke lacrosse players who have proven over and over that they are innocent. You have to stop spreading that BS. Someone’s house burning down is fundamentally different than rape. Rape is something someone doesn’t to someone else consciously. Fires start on their own by mistake or act of god constantly. The co…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:59 PM
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They simply want control over who gets to be a woman. Because if anyone can become a woman than anyone can rise from the lower class of men in their perfect society. This is why they don’t care about FtM trans people, moving down is whatever. It’s moving into their caste as a filthy moid that they take issue with. It’s why feminism as an ideology must be purged.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/24 05:53 PM
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Women are notorious virtue signalers and liars. It’s not as simple as just asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:46 PM
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Again, this is all really easy to say when you’re a part of the gender that has officially become the gatekeepers to sex and relationships for the past 2 decades. If your dating prospects were only yielding 1 date every 6 months I’m sure you would be singing a different tune.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:44 PM
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There are people that go years into marriages before someone reveals their true self to the other person. You think I’m gonna truly understand someone that deeply based on a few video calls? Gullible is written on the ceiling btw
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:41 PM
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If your words matched your actions even half of the time you’d have a leg to stand on here. Unfortunately many men feel the way we do because we’ve seen women’s actions be dramatically different from their words a few too many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:34 PM
2

Most people lack any introspection. But I’d rather learn to catch fish from a fisherman than watching the virtue signaling fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:33 PM
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Reality is my answer. When you have rad gems influencing mass shooters at this point then feminism has gone down a very dark path.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:28 PM
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Birth rates are so low precisely because women have largely broken free of the gender roles they don’t want. It’s men who can’t break free of gender roles, mostly because women don’t want us to
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:25 PM
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The issue is that you don’t exactly know what kind of person you’re dealing with the first few dates and most men get so few chances that it’s not worth potentially blowing your chances by dying on this hill. It really is on women to change the dynamic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:23 PM
2

And your argument was what exactly? “Nuh uh” was essentially what your 4 paragraphs of gibberish boiled down to
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:12 PM
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My alternative is to not judge someone based on the words of a woman that could have any number of motivations for why she’s saying those things. And don’t go telling me that you do the same thing. Feminism teaches people to ‘believe women’ insinuating that people should make a character determination about a man based on the accusations of women. That is exactly how you get situations like Shawn Oakman and the Duke Lacrosse players. It’s toxic and it needs to end
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:10 PM
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Reality
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:07 PM
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That is absolutely not true. Women are just as vengeful as men and they know that an accusation of creep or misogyny can potentially ruin a man’s reputation. There are huge amounts of women that misuse that power every day
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:40 AM
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Feminists on balance, are in fact demonizing men for a number of things including but not limited to their approaches. You act like this is a small problem and then turn around and ask why there aren’t any decent men around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:36 AM
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Feminism is increasingly becoming a femcel community. The two are almost indistinguishable at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:33 AM
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That is a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:37 PM
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It is a term of commodification. Women are as looks based as men are when it comes to dating, probably even more so given dating app data. You commodify us way more than we commodify you. Our commodification is more out in the open since we are expected to be the initiators. Yet you still complain. Just amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:06 PM
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Man the point just keeps flying over your head
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:04 PM
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Where men and women are pretty much equal i.e. Western Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:04 PM
5

Then start approaching yourselves. You commodify men by getting to reject any dude with impunity and then wonder why men are getting more desperate or checking out entirely. You are just completely unaware of the effect of your actions on other people. It’s truly astounding
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:43 PM
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I never said they aren’t having babies at all. My argument was that things do not equalize between men and women in terms of government handouts just because women have less babies. So clearly women bearing the brunt of child rearing is not why the disparity in government help is so large. Don’t strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:41 PM
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Even in countries that are pretty much equal women are still the main recipient of government money. We’ve tried this experiment in western and Northern Europe. Women are simply not interested in repairing the social contract and that’s why men are becoming more unproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:39 PM
3

If you don’t want to be approached out of desperation then the solution is obvious. Start approaching men. But women by and large have refused to do that and then wonder why men think this way. Sometimes you create the monster you hate so much
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:28 PM
4

Women will do nothing to end the social norm that men are supposed to approach, reward only the men who approach, and then wonder why men think about dating in terms of scarcity. You really can’t make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:27 PM
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In developed countries like New Zealand you are having babies less and less. Another part of the social contract women have broken. You’re still immensely tax negative even in places where the birth rate has fallen dramatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:19 PM
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Most women are relying on men’s resources though, just indirectly. Women are the main recipients of government money. This is why libs are so worried about all the unproductive men. You can’t have a functioning society if a large segment of the population that used to be immensely productive suddenly disappears. The whole thing starts to fall apart
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:16 PM
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As a leftist red pill I could not agree more. I still think the right is wrong and is just as bad for men if not worse, but leftists and libs cannot keep treating young men like shit and then expect them to back them. That’s absolute lunacy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:05 PM
3

Oh so you want a simp or a sugar daddy then. Hope you’re hot
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:45 PM
2

That’s fine. But if he commits you better submit. That’s how transactional relationships work
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:21 PM
7

The problem is these women pretend like their goal isn’t something casual when they’d absolutely spread their legs the same day for the first guy they thought was top 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:10 PM
0

There were many good breadtubers back in the day. They just don’t make videos anymore. Contrapoints and Hbomberguy come to mind. Hbomb was almost singlehandedly responsible for delegitimizing gamergate as a movement by appealing to guys in that movement and pulling them away from it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/24 08:54 PM
3

FD is a lost cause. He the part of the left that needs to be delegitimized if we’re ever going to be politically relevant again
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/24 08:51 PM
2

The fact that you think this whole thing revolves around getting laid is precisely why I’m not going to take any of your remaining comment seriously. You’re so off base that nothing you’re saying is worth responding to
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:49 PM
8

Yep. Super quiet. That’s why they’re posting about it all over social media
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:05 PM
5

Anytime men actually try to take those actions we are shouted down by women or societally pressured to stop. Don’t believe me? Google what happened to the first guy who tried to set up a men’s shelter in Canada. Checking women’s privilege either irl or online is a form of praxis that’s part of the movement. The other stuff can’t happen until the women that criticize it aren’t taken seriously anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:14 PM
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It’s less convincing others that we made the right decision and more defending ourselves from both the feminists on the left and the tradcons on the right. I don’t care if you think what I did was wrong, but I’m not going to let you build a narrative about me that simply isn’t true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:08 PM
4

Those are some real cool gender roles you got there. I’m assuming you’re fully prepared to be domesticated the rest of your life once this ‘real man’ appears to you right? Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:44 PM
2

If you think this is remotely a reality for the majority of women I don’t even know what to tell you. It doesn’t even make sense mathematically. There are only so many rich men to go around. If the all get divorce raped then they won’t be rich. So only a fraction of women will even have a shot at this. And as a lawyer who manages estates for some rich people I can tell you most rich dudes have pretty ironclad prenups. It’s middle class guys that get divorce raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:39 PM
1

You forgot to finish that story. Go ahead and tell us what happens to that woman after she turns 50 and now the consequences of her previously vain actions are starting to catch up to her. Go ahead. I’m waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:27 PM
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I went to one. Didn’t happen. It’s mostly women milling about in groups the same way they do at clubs and bars and rejecting any dude who comes their way. The problem isn’t not having the ability to meet, it’s women having astronomical standards
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:05 PM
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Or because getting rejected 20 times in an hour in person is far more humiliating than getting rejected 20 times in an hour on an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:24 PM
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I have never experienced those things. That’s why I get targeted with the ads. I still wouldn’t get an ai girlfriend because I cannot suspend my disbelief that much. Most other guys like me are the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:58 PM
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As a guy who has been the the target of a lot of ai girlfriend ads I can tell you that this kind of stuff is only going to work for guys so detached from reality that they can suspend their disbelief and forget that they’re talking to a robot. And the guys that can do that are already doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:19 PM
0

That’s the part you are inferring because you don’t want it to be true. The study does not say that. You’re saying that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 11:30 PM
4

What statistics could even measure that? You’re asking for something you know couldn’t possibly exist
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 11:27 PM
1

Is that what you think you’re coming off as? Hahahahahahah
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:30 PM
0

That’s literally what you’re doing. You don’t get to classify everything that the people you don’t like are doing as whining while in the same breath whining about them. The irony is so thick you could cut it with a knife
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:23 PM
0

Pointing out reality is not whining. What you’re doing is whining. We get ridiculed no matter what you do. That’s kind of what women do, whine and complain and ridicule us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:53 PM
1

As long as you recognize that the fact that you’ll never be put in a position to have to make that choice is an immense privilege that is far beyond any privileges that men might have
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:51 PM
1

No. If you suffered even a fraction of the problems men suffer you’d be in a psych ward. So congrats, you have an idea of what it’s like to be a man. And it caused you to need to go to a psych ward and medicate yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:49 PM
2

So you can’t point out reality if you’ve adopted a certain personal philosophy? That’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:53 PM
1

It isn’t about ‘controlling your flesh’ whatever the fuck that means. It’s about the social expectation from women that we will either approach and accept any consequence or deservedly die alone. Control your flesh this holiday
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:50 PM
1

Oh so you almost experienced an amount of loneliness an average man feels. Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:47 PM
1

Again, you draw distinctions that don’t matter. Marrying down is marrying down. How much down is irrelevant. You’re just trying to muddy the waters because the stats aren’t with you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:46 PM
2

They claim that because women treat us like commodities. The red pill is a reaction to the way women have been acting. When you treat us like commodities and wait at the finish line, we will take multiple prizes once we’re there. If you don’t want that, don’t wait at the finish line. Simple
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:54 PM
2

That’s why you get in early and build trust with him. Buy low, sell high.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:08 PM
6

That’s precisely why you should be investing in someone early so that you have built loyalty and trust when your looks begin to fade.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:39 PM
8

I love how you frame this as men “waiting” to date younger women as if that option is open to 20 something men who aren’t in the top 20% of men. Very clever. Not gonna work, but very clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:35 PM
1

Yes but male doctors are significantly more likely to marry down. That’s what the stats say. You’re going in circles
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:35 PM
2

I’m not a social scientist. I don’t know the details. But it’s clear that’s the easiest direction to go in to solve this issue
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:41 PM
1

An upper hand is something you can willingly give away. It’s like solving poverty by asking a homeless guy to become a millionaire instead of having the rich give away their wealth. One option is much easier than the other
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:58 PM
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I am not sacrificing my own life to achieve what will probably be nothing. A much easier solution is to just implement more social policies that punish women for being shitty in relationships in the exact same way we have for men. I’m not gonna be a guinea pig
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:56 PM
3

Of course. But we’re talking about stats not possibilities you’re defaulting back to ‘well it’s possible’ in the face of statistics. That’s not a convincing position
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:54 PM
3

Sure but that’s more of a product of who you’re around. Doctors are around nurses more. But data shows if a male doctor met a high school drop out he really liked he would still marry her. The reverse is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:09 PM
1

That would be good. But if a single man adopted that philosophy while most men didn’t, he’s just taking himself out of the gene pool and dying alone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:07 PM
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It also doesn’t change the fact that there is nothing a single man can do about it. Plus if we weren’t the supplier of options our species would cease to exist. Women are lucky we aren’t as picky as them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:06 PM
1

The more chances you get the more comfortable a situation you will likely end up in. You’re assuming that having more chances doesn’t do anything for you. It does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:15 PM
1

You have a choice as a woman. I do not. It is a false choice. It doesn’t stop being one because you don’t believe it. You’re gonna have to do better than that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:44 AM
3

You’re making a lot of assumptions about a theoretical man you haven’t even talked to in this hypothetical. Weird behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:43 AM
2

Men are not a hive mind. There was no counsel of men that decided this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:40 AM
1

This is why you disregard anything a bluepiller has to say almost automatically
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:38 PM
2

You can’t post this while women also advance the trope that men are intimidated by a woman who earns a lot of money. So we are both intimidated and attracted at the same time? I think not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:36 PM
2

I can read between the lines
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:22 PM
2

It’s a false choice. Die literally alone or die metaphorically alone
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:21 PM
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Weakness? You have no idea the depths of loneliness men experience. It would break you within days. Dying alone is the only real option at this point. Men don’t get an actual choice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:20 PM
2

Women get bottomless choices. Men don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:15 PM
4

No. It isn’t. You’re just pursuing the wrong men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:11 PM
2

One or two? Yeah I’m gonna discard that comment right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:10 PM
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That’s craaazy considering I hear women say they don’t trust men that aren’t in a relationship already constantly and the number 1 go to insult for women online is ‘incel’, a direct attack on a man’s ability to attract women. Women judge our very being on our relation to them. It’s not optional for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:34 PM
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Most men will tell you there was a patriarchy at some point. And you act like women don’t use emotional manipulation to get the things they want in a relationship constantly. It’s so ingrained in you from centuries of patriarchy that you probably don’t even notice it. It’s a power struggle for you too you just don’t call it that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:32 PM
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There is no alternative to bad behavior for men. It’s either put up with women who don’t treat you well or die alone. It’s not a real choice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:30 PM
4

Once is already more than enough
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:28 PM
1

That’s fine. As long as you acknowledge that dating is 10x harder for men along with that stance
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:27 PM
5

That is just not true
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:14 PM
3

That’s just not true
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:13 PM
3

‘Soft gender roles’ meaning you get to do whatever you want and he is basically your labor slave
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:11 PM
9

Explains a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:33 AM
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Pretty much the entire Democratic Party. They centered abortion as an issue which was a huge mistake and blamed men in general for the loss after people had been sounding the alarm for months that they were handling the campaign poorly. I’m pro choice, but centering your campaign around an issue that 98% of the time boils down to women being able to fuck without consequences was a terrible campaign strategy and the democrats deserved to lose. And instead of looking inwards finding what they did …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:19 PM
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I voted against Trump and feel very alienated from my party and have been for quite some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:09 PM
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Im not saying his philosophy is always sound, but it doesn’t advocate for absent fathers. His criticism of the left is completely incoherent I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:45 PM
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So some people are hypocrites? What an amazing discovery you’ve pointed out. Truly ground breaking stuff right here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:51 PM
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Jordan Peterson has never advocated for being an absent father or not paying child support. I don’t think you understand his philosophy at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:07 AM
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That is certifiably insane
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:25 AM
1

Who you have respect for and who you’re attracted to are often 2 different things for women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:45 PM
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Again. I don’t like this way of thinking. I think it’s toxic. But we are already talking about women who think men shouldn’t date until they have a well established career. They’re already toxic. So yes, they are just looking for men with money and treating them as though they are goldiggers when they literally are and demanding submission isn’t that outlandish an ask. Your problem is you think I agree with his premise. I don’t. I’m merely trying to show what the tradeoff would be if the premise…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:53 PM
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That isn’t the expectation of your partner though. If my partner wants me to be super successful and make a ton of money as a base requirement of being with them I am going to expect something in return. That something is submission.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:53 PM
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Mine had content. I was letting him know the reason for the report. If I’m gonna get reported for shit like that on this sub I’m gonna report others as well. If you don’t like it then don’t comment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:21 AM
2

So an insignificant amount in the grand scheme of things. Got it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:20 AM
2

More contentless rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:05 AM
6

Clearly it isn’t enough to move the needle significantly either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:32 AM
0

Reported for content less rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:31 AM
3

Then that’s even worse. Top 5 worst takes on this sub ever. Congrats
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:59 AM
2

So teachers, firefighters, public defenders, prosecutors, many researchers, and a bunch of other necessary jobs just aren’t careers to you because they don’t make enough money? That’s like top 5 dumbest shit I’ve seen on this subreddit if it’s not a troll and I’ve seen women say some really insane shit on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:56 AM
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Plenty of careers are not high paying. If you want a guy who makes good money you better be prepared to fully and completely submit to him, or else you just want to be treated like a princess for no reason
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:49 AM
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If you’re going to think this way about men you cannot be surprised when the men that busted their ass to become economically attractive demand total submission from their girlfriend/wife. You want 1950s, you’re gonna get 1950s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:42 AM
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Women have shown repeatedly that they do not care about that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:39 AM
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So men are the ones obsessed by reacting to it, but women somehow don’t care even though they’re the ones talking about it and engaging with it. Okey dokey then
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:42 PM
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It isn’t about arguing your way into their pants. It’s about making sure the actual reasons for the things that they’re doing are out in the open so that men aren’t being gaslit en masse
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:49 PM
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Funny, men are told not to be friends with the women we date first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 03:29 PM
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First of all, my grandfather worked in a Pittsburgh steel mill. Fuck all the way off clown. Second, I love how you’re blaming the consumers for buying stuff and not the capitalists that sold them out. How very bootlickery of you. Third, you still haven’t made a true economic argument that breaks down how tariffs work in the way you think they do. You’ve just been getting emotional and complaining about my nonexistent ivory tower and then listing a bunch of cities in the Midwest. Make a real argu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:01 AM
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You haven’t described at all how that creates a different outcome than what I said. You just played a semantic game and pretended like you made some great point. Like the person that just posts a screenshot of a googled definition of a word and decides they’ve won. Make an actual argument smooth brain
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:59 PM
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That is what they are. They are taxes on imports. Taxes that cause companies to raise prices on said goods so that the consumer effectively pays for them when they pay for the good. You don’t get to sit here and tell me I’m wrong and do nothing else. If you’re so confident let’s hear your economic dissertation lil buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:04 PM
0

If you think China is going to stop their labor practices because the prices of their products got passed on to Americans I have news for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:17 PM
1

Ironically, giving Ukraine to Russia is exactly what he wants to do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:14 PM
4

Take it up with the women calling them that then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:34 PM
9

Men that observe that kind of thinking about women are referred to as incels and that is precisely the double standard I believe the OP is calling out
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:30 PM
6

More rural states are constantly voting in policy that makes things worse for them. It’s no wonder there’s a rural urban divide here. Almost like rural areas constantly vote against their own interests and urban areas should stop sending aid to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:07 PM
5

Lefty red pill men are rare but I am one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:28 PM
2

It doesn’t. I’m negating what he said. Follow the thread
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:57 PM
-1

Cool. Now do New York and New England
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:50 PM
11

He hated he saw Trump as the bigger threat and he was right. I don’t know how someone could blame him for making what he honestly believed was the right choice and putting his ego aside
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/24 01:45 PM
7

And again in 2020
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/24 12:19 PM
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Having sex is not the same as being a total slut for a decade+. If you can’t see the difference I don’t know what to tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:54 PM
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I’m not denying that, but women allow that because there are a lot more promiscuous women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:10 PM
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Pair bonding is a very specific psychological concept. What you are describing is porn addiction. It’s like saying pneumonia and the flu are the same. They are in the same ballpark, but not the same disease
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:27 PM
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Of course. Everything red pill men say about promiscuous women is also true of promiscuous men. Promiscuous women just get talked about more because there’s more of them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:05 PM
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No it doesn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:02 PM
1

Also red pill men having opinions about women that you don’t like is not the same as you spreading literal misinformation about human biology for you cope post. Knock it off
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 01:57 PM
1

Many men don’t have a time limit. Men have had healthy children at 80. Women have a literal time limit where they will not have any more children because they do not have any more eggs. Nothing like that exists for men. Stop spreading misinformation
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 01:56 PM
2

That’s not true either. There are some risks to kids born to older men but to pretend like every kid born to a guy over 40 is fucked up is fucking ridiculous. Women really gotta stop spreading misinformation on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:50 AM
2

No. It doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 01:38 AM
7

The biological clock relates to a literal clock that goes on with women. Just because it’s more uncommon with older men does not mean we have a clock
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 06:04 PM
1

It wasn’t invented by a journalist. It’s literal biology. This is such cope
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:10 PM
8

Most of your arguments are actually about a woman’s biological clock. Not men’s. Men only have a biological clock in relation to the women in our perceived dating pool. Misleading post
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:04 PM
1

I am a part of that group definitely. But I’m describing a common experience just using the first person. The fact you don’t possess the reading comprehension to understand that is simply not my problem
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:34 PM
1

Because first person is the best way to convey that experience. But I was talking about any guy who’s in that situation. That’s where the reading comprehension comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:30 PM
1

That statement could be about any guy who’s in the same situation. You’re telling a story about this one guy you know. How you can’t tell the difference shows a fundamental lack of reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:28 PM
3

But it is far more pronounced with women than with men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:10 PM
1

A major dating app had to change its entire structure because women simply do not want to be the drivers. The occasional time you decide to is not indicative of the whole
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:25 PM
-1

Except men are always the ones having to do the driving, so it’s only our sexuality being impacted by this
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:44 PM
1

That is absolutely terrible and that is precisely the attitude that needs to change
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:43 PM
1

Which has become impossible in the modern day
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:43 PM
1

Yes. I have. Now stop making this personal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:00 PM
0

It isn’t in response to men. Men will date any woman of any status, women will not. Women are the hypergamous ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:38 PM
1

They will and do all the time. Because they are hypergamous
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:31 PM
0

I’m not saying they should, but that women are. That’s just the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:25 PM
1

It isn’t punishing, she’ll just have to be able to handle the fact that if she wanted a high value man she should have gotten in earlier, now she has to share
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:24 PM
1

You already don’t. You’re hypergamous. Do you not live in reality or something? Are you stuck in a Disney movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:14 PM
1

I don’t need to know every woman on earth to reach my conclusion. I can see trends in a population and make decisions accordingly. If women, in general, want to make me struggle to be worthy of them, then I’m not going to limit myself to just one once I reach that point. Fairs fair
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:56 PM
1

Then it’s on women to make sure that happens. Solve your hypergamy and stop giving me the incentive to sleep with as many women as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:52 PM
14

I’m not ruining the dating market. It was already ruined by the hypergamy of women. I’m just taking advantage of that hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:30 PM
5

Sounds good if that’s your perogative but I’m not changing any social attitudes by myself in this lifetime so I’m gonna reap as much of the reward of being successful as I can
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:11 PM
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If I have to struggle and go through endless metamorphoses just to be able to be worthy of women, why should I limit myself to just one once I reach that point? If you wanted monogamy you should have helped build me up, but you made me struggle. Now I’m reaping the rewards
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 09:50 AM
1

The literal dictionary definition of impotent is not potent, i.e. potency being the ability to get someone pregnant. Stop litigating the definitions of words because you’re losing and take you L
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 09:45 AM
1

That seems like a you problem. Opinion discarded
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 09:43 AM
1

Impotence is the inability to reproduce, inability to have sex is secondary. Stop litigating the definitions of words that are clear just because you have no argument. I’m so tired of people resorting to this on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 09:43 AM
0

It does not do more harm than a vasectomy. That’s the most ridiculous take I’ve seen yet. The pill doesn’t make you permanently impotent, therefore it isn’t worse. End of story
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 11:55 PM
1

So don’t risk your health and use a condom or be abstinent. You’ll still have the opportunity to have kids in the future if you want, unlike the guy who gets a vasectomy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:22 PM
1

The fact that they were even mentioned as equal things in the same comment is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 08:07 PM
2

You realize that even vasectomies are not a surefire way to prevent pregnancy right? My cousin had a kid after he got a vasectomy. You’re acting like this is some definitive birth control better than condoms or the pill
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 08:06 PM
1

What do you think child support is if not the forced labor using the bodies of men to support a child they had no say about? Knock it off with that bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 08:03 PM
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Then why are you mentioning it as if it were a casual thing like condoms or the pill? Stop doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:56 PM
0

When did I shoot down anything other than vasectomies? You’re making shit up. Knock it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:49 PM
0

It is akin to getting tubes tied. It makes you impotent, how that occurs is irrelevant. I love how you downplayed the only relevant part. Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:48 PM
2

So women get to have sex carefree but men have to “control their sperm”. How about control your eggs
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:46 PM
1

Or just use regular forms of birth control and don’t castrate yourself. Jesus Christ, this is like telling a 22 year old woman who wants kids later to get her tubes tied
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:45 PM
1

Those are women who know they never want them, not women who are just delaying them. You are proposing a vasectomy as a regular form of birth control. That’s dangerous. Stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:43 PM
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What? There are a million other forms of birth control. It doesn’t have to be making yourself permanently impotent or abstinent. That’s fucking ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:41 PM
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That isn’t how you, or other women talk about it though. It’s akin to getting your tubes tied not being on birth control, yet women still talk about it like it’s just another form of birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:56 PM
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You can be open to having kids in the future and just not want one now. But if you get a vasectomy you run a very high risk of being permanently impotent. Stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:54 PM
1

They don’t permanently inhibit your ability to have children in the future. Stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:53 PM
0

It depletes your ability to have children in the future in a way abortions typically do not. Comparing the two is affirmatively insane
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:52 PM
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Women have got to stop proposing vasectomies as an option for birth control for young men. That is a horrible option. Stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:38 PM
2

He’s still with them because he’s too old to fight them anymore. They utterly screwed him twice and those of us old enough to remember it won’t forget it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:49 PM
2

Bernie Sanders was screwed twice by the democrats and when he sued them in court their argument was literally “we are a private party we can do whatever we want” and they won because they were technically correct. And you think the best path forward is to reform from within? LMFAOOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 11:58 AM
2

Wow it’s like I’m talking to a wall. Nothing I say registers with you even a little bit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:41 AM
1

Using a poverty argument in favor of abortion is just straight up eugenics. One of the worst arguments you could possibly make in favor of it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:41 AM
1

I remember Jill Stein. I made the same arguments against voting for her as you are now. I was foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:39 AM
2

It isn’t a waste. It’s showing the democrats that they have to actually give a shit about the things I give a shit about if they want my vote. That’s how democracy is supposed to work
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:20 AM
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So men are forced to act ahead of time with the information but women can do whatever they want at any point in the process. No thank you. I prefer equality
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:24 PM
0

I agree. But they have to come together. I refuse to have rights for one group but not another
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:08 PM
2

You opt in when you have sex. The same way you opt into the lottery when you buy a ticket
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:07 PM
0

What does that have to do with what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:07 PM
1

Democrats don’t have a strong track record of doing a lot of good stuff at the same time. If they win on abortion they are going to act like they’ve won politics and stop there
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:06 PM
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Ya and women made the decision to have sex too. Why do they get to correct a potential mistake afterward but men don’t? You aren’t understanding you’re just assuming what my argument is
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:03 PM
3

You already have more bodily autonomy. You just don’t want to accept the consequences of your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:01 PM
3

It isn’t one persons body though. You’re forcing the other person to use their body to perform labor to make money for the child. Don’t play this stupid game. If women can opt out of parenthood then so should men. This isn’t hard. In fact it still isn’t equality because if the man wants to be a parent the woman can still do an abortion whereas if a woman wants to be a parent she can just have the kid. Even with financial abortion men don’t have as much choice as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:00 PM
2

I only support financial abortion if actual abortion is legal. If it’s not then financial abortion shouldn’t be either. You’re conflating a whole different topic with this one to distort the arguments here anyway. Stay on task
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:58 PM
3

Yes it absolutely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:54 PM
4

Financial abortion isn’t legal anywhere. What’s your point
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:54 PM
7

Which is why financial abortion should exist. It levels the playing field again and gives men and women equal autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:08 PM
1

Because they want to be able to fuck without consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:08 PM
4

But it isn’t essential now is it? At least that’s what women on this sub keep telling men that are feeling lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:07 PM
2

You think I’m making my voting choices over a subreddit? You really think you have that much influence? Brainrot
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:06 PM
2

Women on here talk all the time about how they can’t cum from PIV sex and how it isn’t that enjoyable. Time to suck some dick I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:57 PM
2

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:56 PM
10

Huh. Crazy how we don’t require that of women. Yet again all responsibility falls on men and women are just some passive victims in all this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:08 PM
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There are plenty of ways to ensure that the woman does not get pregnant again, if they aren’t comfortable with that then yes, they shouldn’t have sex until after menopause
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:07 PM
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Of course it is. It’s why I’ll vote for Claudia de la Cruz or Cornell West before I vote for Harris. But to pretend like the republicans aren’t the party of hate is absolutely laughable. THEYRE EATING THE DOGS
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:02 PM
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The woman got to decide whether the child even was born in the first place. That’s what financial abortion is. Deciding before the child is born that you will not support it and letting the woman do what she wants with that information. No. Your logic is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:50 PM
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So men have absolutely no agency or autonomy after they bust a nut but women get to make every major choice along the way. I am now even more in favor of financial abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:44 PM
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It did extend to parenthood for the woman. She literally got to decide whether she wanted to be a parent or not. Jesus Christ this logic is terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:43 PM
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I’m pro choice. The fact that every woman who has responded to me immediately thinks I’m pro life just because I pointed out that’s what the movement has mostly become is kinda insane. It’s why I’m gonna vote third party instead of the democrats
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:31 PM
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No it isn’t. There’s literally options on dating apps for women to filter for those things. No such options for men. If it was just a preference you’d see their behavior on the apps change dramatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:29 PM
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She literally asked me a question do I thought she actually wanted a conversation. Yet again women on this sub get away with being absolutely terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:27 PM
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That’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying that if you don’t want to have kids, there is a very easy way to not have them. The fact I have women losing their minds at the thought of not having sex is kinda incredible. I have no sympathy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:26 PM
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Again, I’m pro choice. But for some reason women think it’s like impossible to not get pregnant if they can’t have abortion which is just buck wild
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:25 PM
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No, I won’t because I actually have principles
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:23 PM
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You can do that even without access to abortion. I’m pro choice by the way, I’m just pointing out a very obvious fact
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:17 PM
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I never said sex was shameful. But unwanted pregnancy is entirely preventable. You’re painting me to be some religious right wing nutcase when in reality I’m a leftist agnostic. I’m literally just pointing out that pregnancy is entirely preventable. Also I’m pro choice, but it’s near the bottom of my list of things I care about in this election which is entirely at odds with the party I have been voting for since in came of age. You think you’re talking to some right wing debate bro. You’re not.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:58 PM
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A preference is not the same as a judgement. Holy fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:52 PM
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It’s very much required. Women are even allowed to filter for it on dating apps which are by far the most common way people meet nowadays. Get outta here with that bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:43 PM
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That isn’t judging. Judging would not dating women based on how big their boobs are. That is a judgement call. It’s literally in the name. But guys aren’t doing that. Take your L and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:43 PM
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Also reported for content less rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:42 PM
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So no response? Another L for women wanting to fuck without consequences. You just completely ignored what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:41 PM
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Imagine talking about contraceptives in response to my argument that unwanted pregnancy is preventable. It didn’t even once cross your mind that maybe you could just keep your legs closed. Incredible. And I’m pointing out that this isn’t the men’s issue that you’re trying to make it out to be. You don’t get to brush off my response just because you don’t like it. And it’s pretty simple how the disparity gets worse with legal abortion. Women have more opportunities to sleep are around with the to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:40 PM
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Are they nice? Yes. Are the required in any way? Absolutely not. Saying otherwise is just a delusional lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:36 PM
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A declining birth rate isn’t an existential threat first of all. It’s perfectly fine if population winds down to a level that is more sustainable. Second, even in places where every opportunity has been given to support women in having more children, like in Germany and Northern Europe, women still are not having children. Access to abortion and help from the government is not what’s going to bring the birth rate back up even if that is your goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:34 PM
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And that’s horrible, but rare. Compared to the actual existential threats we’re facing it pales in comparison. It’s not close
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:28 PM
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Women already get to choose that. Unwanted pregnancy is entirely preventable. And this isn’t about men getting to fuck whenever we want because women control access to sex and a good portion, even a majority, of young men aren’t having any sex at all. That doesn’t change simply because abortion stays legal. In fact the disparity probably even gets worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:26 PM
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Unwanted pregnancy is entirely preventable. And if you can’t think about issues beyond how it will immediately impact you then you really shouldn’t be voting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:22 PM
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That is just such an absolute lie and the fact that you even posted it shows how divorced from reality you are
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:17 PM
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Pretending that the democrats are the party of hate while republicans go on deranged rants about immigrants eating dogs is certainly something. And this is coming from a guy who has many criticisms of the democrats. But that is not one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:11 PM
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The fact that abortion is even a big issue in this next election shows how out of whack people’s priorities have become. We have existential threats of income inequality and climate change that threaten all of humanity and the democrats are building a campaign centered around women being able to fuck without consequences. We are so cooked
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:07 PM
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So you found one post that only semi addresses the thing you’re mad about and a random comment. You gotta do better than that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:12 PM
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As a now divorce lawyer, it really depends on how much headache the parents choose to cause to the child and the other parent. An amicable break up is absolutely the best way to go if possible, but a divorce and years long custody fight can just make things worse for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:06 PM
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Oh jeez another post about how women’s lack of accountability/problem they created for themselves is actually the fault of men. Time is a flat circle on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 01:33 PM
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My job is to defend my clients which are usually women because women are more likely to get a lawyer in a divorce. You’re just spewing bullshit at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:33 PM
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As a divorce lawyer I can tell you the actual story is almost always more complicated than that and usually not in the woman’s favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:28 PM
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Yes because men actually understand the commitment they’re making as more than just some words you said awhile ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:21 PM
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Knowing what I know now and having the experiences I’ve had, yes. I don’t owe women anything and that includes my commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:15 PM
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Don’t play dumb. You can be in a generally abusive situation without being in active danger all the time. Let’s not play these games.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:29 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 11:32 AM
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55 is not a slight majority and it is growing with no sign of stopping. Many law schools are 60+% women. There are a number of reasons that the actual practice of law is more male dominated, the headliner being that many female lawyers marry male lawyers and decide they don’t need to practice anymore and can still live a comfortable life. That isn’t exactly systemic bias at work. If anything it shows systemic bias towards men by locking us into our gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:15 AM
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I’ve answered this like 3 other times in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:22 AM
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I’ve already answered this for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:22 AM
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I love how you compared law school to law firms as if those are the exact same things. Look at the enrollment by gender in law school and get back to me. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:21 AM
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Teacher attitudes towards boys, lack of gym and recess, no child left behind, curriculum that isn’t conducive to male learning. The list goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:20 AM
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I’ve answered this for like 3 other people in this thread. I’m not doing it again
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:16 AM
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In a system designed for women they are. Crazy how that happens
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:01 AM
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That isn’t what I said. Reread what I actually said. You’re reading what you want to read right now. Take a breath and try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:00 AM
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Many teachers automatically see boys as a potential problem and police their behavior more rigorously, no child left behind rigidly enforcing a curriculum that reinforces uniformity instead of creative thinking which hurts boys more, reduced recess and gym classes that allow boys to get their energy out. The list goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:43 PM
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Were* good job you’re starting to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:23 PM
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That is not the biggest change and it is historically illiterate to think that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:22 PM
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Not for the sole sake of women, but many things that are much more beneficial and conducive to girls learning than boys. It’s a rigged game for boys at this point and women are shocked that boys can sense that and no longer want to play
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 09:11 PM
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There’s no effort because they’ve never been shown a reward. I’ve literally been through 2+ decades of schooling through law school. I’ve seen the bias against men quite a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 09:09 PM
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It’s designed for people who can sit still and be quiet. Women are overwhelmingly those people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 09:07 PM
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It wasn’t this way always. Many changes have occurred. You are historically illiterate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 09:06 PM
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Okay resentful hag
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 09:05 PM
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It’s actually crazy and completely historically illiterate that you think our education system has not had any structural changes in 50 years. Actual fucking bonkers stuff going on in this thread right now
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 09:04 PM
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Again, I’m a democrat that lives in a blue state. You can knock off the snark or I can start dishing it back. And I guarantee I’m better at it than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 09:02 PM
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That was literally the solution that was being proposed. You’re just mad I pointed out how absolutely insane that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 09:01 PM
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The solution was “yell at your male children until they’re too demoralized and begrudgingly go along with what you want”. That isn’t a solution and if the genders were swapped you’d be pointing this out just like I am right now. Opinion still discarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:58 PM
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Look at all the men agreeing with me. I’ve been a lifelong Democrat. For as long as I’ve been alive not a single one has attempted to speak directly to me as to how they’ll make my life better. It’s no wonder they’re bleeding young men to the right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:56 PM
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So now we know you’re just saying this out of resentment instead of offering actual solutions or even making a good faith attempt to diagnose the issue. Opinion discarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:37 PM
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So we spend the last half century designing an educational system for women and men are giving those reasons you mentioned for not participating. Geez I wonder why
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:32 PM
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We already do. Despite the fact that the left has made a single attempt to speak to us for decades at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:30 PM
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“This will favor women in some situations, like housework and child rearing, but go against them in others.” Stop playing this stupid game and either put up or shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 08:50 PM
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I’m not moving the goal posts. That was YOUR original claim, that women take heat on those subs that is unique to them. I asked you to find evidence. You did not do that. Quit whining and go find some or buzz off
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 08:39 PM
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They would shit on a man for reacting like this too. This isn’t exclusive to women. Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:11 PM
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Then find a post that goes against women in the ways you’re talking about because I’ve yet to see it on that sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 04:07 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 12:23 PM
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Yeah and that’s an issue. Whether our very existence and sexuality is seen as annoying at best and criminal at worst is based on things we cannot control. And women don’t seem to see the problem with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 12:21 PM
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Then you cannot value men based on looks either. If you’re still only swiping on the top 10% or noticing the top 10% of men you are a massive hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 05:23 PM
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Because that’s not what it’s saying. Again, you don’t buy insurance expecting something bad to happen. So if you’re against it based on hurt feelings, that’s just emotional manipulation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:52 PM
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Right. Accidents can happen to anyone. Paternity fraud can happen to anyone. Insurance isn’t against something, it’s for something. That’s how insurance works. Nice try, thanks for playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 11:23 AM
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I agree to a degree. Although some peoples lives suck so bad that suicide is a logical option albeit still not a great one. Still better than zombifying yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 11:21 AM
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That’s a baseless assumption you’re making without any evidence that you have to make otherwise taking antidepressants would look horrible in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:31 PM
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I absolutely know how both work. Antidepressants work by messing with your weight, libido, and other metabolic functions, and make you unable to function without them. The same as any other addictive drug. You might as well just get hooked on alcohol or porn at that point. It’s better than becoming a zombie.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:29 PM
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Plenty of guys have depression and don’t drink so no, we are not. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:23 PM
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I firmly believe in helping mental health. But the solutions offered by women don’t work for men (and many times aren’t solutions at all). No. I refuse to tranquillize myself so that I feel a little less sad sometimes. That is not what healthy people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:22 PM
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At least we aren’t medicating like addicts just to be able to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:20 PM
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Your buying car insurance is due to your baseless paranoia stoked by watching videos on the internet of car crashes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:10 PM
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People don’t buy car insurance expecting to get in a car crash either. Paternity tests just like car insurance are the lack of need for trust, not lack of trust itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:10 PM
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Sounds like she wants someone to abuse and manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:48 PM
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Okay so next time you feel off and want to go to the doctor don’t do it because it’s probably nothing and whatever disease it might be impacts only a tiny minority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:47 PM
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Taking a mind tranquilizer is not successfully coping with loneliness and the fact you think it is is incredibly telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:24 PM
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No you aren’t. You tranquilize yourself with anti depressants and wine. That is not better than simply feeling lonely all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:23 PM
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It also just makes up cases if you ask it to cite case law for something that doesn’t have any case law backing in the legal world. It’s got a looooong way to go
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 01:05 PM
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There are plenty of women who aren’t socially adjusted and they still do just fine. Even that is a requirement that isn’t required of women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 10:42 AM
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I mean, both are true. Because the problem isn’t men, it’s women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:39 PM
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No he’s demonstrating how much virtue signaling you do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:40 AM
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No it isn’t. It’s simply easier to measure population trends by babies per woman because women always know how many children they have whereas men don’t. It’s really that simple. I cannot believe I’m having to explain this right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:57 PM
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You keep replying to me in this cryptic format like give a fuck what you have to say. Knock it off
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:52 PM
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It means main financial provider not sole financial provider. That’s why if people are referring to a sole financial provider they say sole breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:59 PM
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The fact that men are not the sole breadwinners anymore as much is not an indication of women’s attitudes towards men. That is not how someone who claims to be ‘science pilled’ should be interpreting statistics at all. If I tried that in my statistics classes I would have gotten a D- just so they wouldn’t have me in their class again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:55 PM
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That’s just cause it’s the easiest way to measure population growth or decline, not because it’s making a moral judgement about women. Come on you can do better than that. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:42 PM
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That’s crazy because blue collar people are increasingly less likely to get married and more likely to get divorced. People are beginning to pay attention to male loneliness because it’s impacting more than just neurotic redditors. It’s impacting the very people who you think have wives that make them lunch every day. That’s why trades and CDL people are begging for new recruits and can’t find any, because what’s the point when you could just be a neet? Also crazy how you think this is stolen va…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:40 PM
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Again, the fact that women are comfortable contributing doesn’t mean they don’t hold an expectation that their partner be the breadwinner. How can you not hold two ideas in your head at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:34 PM
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And it’s men’s fault for being losers who can’t get a woman to spread. I can do this all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:33 PM
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There is every expectation that men be the breadwinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:31 PM
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You think that money is going to be enough to keep doing dirty and dangerous jobs? How naive
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:30 PM
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The fact that women have decided to help in the breadwinning does not mean there isn’t an expectation for men to be the breadwinners. Two things can be true at once
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:01 PM
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It absolutely would happen. Societies are built and maintained with male labor. If men just quit everything would go to shit fast. Women know this and use it to their advantage. Cucks like you just want to pretend like women can do no wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:54 PM
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Again, explains some of the problem but not even close to the full picture. You’re oversimplifying a really complicated issue and then pretending like men are stupid for not knowing the solution. That’s the kind of thing people who don’t like to think about stuff very much do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:48 PM
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That may explain some, but far from all of the loneliness epidemic. I keep trying to explain this to you and you keep delivering this monologue you’ve decided is the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:12 PM
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If men refused to adhere to traditional norms society would collapse and women know this which is why they’re comfortable locking men into our traditional roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:10 PM
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But they aren’t seen as losers and trash for not doing so, just selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:45 PM
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Women achieved those things in large part because they changed men’s minds. Women have demonstrated time and again that they do not want to share the burden of what men have to put up with. The situation is different
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:44 PM
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Women chose to share the burden. The choosing is precisely what they were fighting for. Men on the other hand have not been afforded the same choice and a few women claiming they value emotional openness on the surface has not changed that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:42 PM
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I’m saying that you think you think guys like that are the cause of the loneliness epidemic when a lot of guys haven’t even heard of them and even less are actually following their advice. It doesn’t mean everything they say is worthless though. Holy shit, two things can be true at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:40 PM
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That is not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:29 PM
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Im not the person you responded to. I’m just telling you how he was using the word
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:28 PM
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Forcing no. But there’s arguably more societal pressure on men to do those things at this point than women. Women got to change society’s expectations for their gender roles. Men have not been afforded the same opportunity by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:26 PM
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You’re assuming that guys are following the advice of those guys. That’s your big mistake. It’s always been you big mistake on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:23 PM
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Performance is a legal term that just means holding up your end f the bargain. It’s not a literal thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:40 PM
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This guy is gonna see a horse get whipped and have a mental breakdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:39 PM
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It’s not something you get out of. It’s a post you made so you don’t have to think about men in this position anymore because thinking about it makes you uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:50 PM
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No you are not. You have no idea the depths of loneliness guys who have never even had a gf go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:49 PM
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There are things that are necessary for survival that you have to try at. Pleasing an entire gender that looks at you like trash is not one of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:46 PM
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Whether it’s a net negative is irrelevant. It’s about saying what you need to say to get it in the first place. You’re assuming he cares about whether it’s a net negative for her
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:03 PM
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Considering the amount of women on this very thread saying that merely being falsely accused is a dealbreaker, your comment contradicts reality. If you think this stops at dating you are woefully naive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:27 AM
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And since when has a woman ever been falsely accused? She’s saying this shit just to virtue signal. She either hasn’t thought about it or doesn’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:24 AM
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It’s virtue signaling. That’s all it’ll ever be. Women act like we don’t have eyes and ears and don’t observe their behavior. My bedroom is usually a little messy cause I’m going through a hectic time in my life right now. The women in my family give me shit for it and tell me no woman will want me for it. Meanwhile I watched my college roommate, who trashed our room regularly and didn’t even know how to do laundry when I met him, meet his wife who didn’t care about any of that and still fell fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:19 AM
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Dating app data and every social science study proves the opposite of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:15 AM
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I already know what they are and what they believe. I’ve had enough interaction with them in the past that I don’t need an interview now to know what they’re about. And that’s not even taking into account whether they’d even answer those questions honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 11:01 AM
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Whenever her looks begin to fade a little bit and the realization that she won’t be young forever begins to set in
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:39 AM
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I don’t see this very often. Women are content to use the apps to share chad until they hit a certain age and settle for average guys. I feel like those TikToks are psyops or something I’ve never heard a real woman I know complain about this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:37 AM
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Ya because they’re just gonna tell you they’re female supremacists. David Duke isn’t going to tell you he’s racist either but he’s sure gonna show you a lot of per capita crime statistics. Come on now, you cannot be this naive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:28 AM
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Again, a difference of opinion on a few minor things does not take away from the overall goal which is female supremacy. Disagreements on the road there are not things I care about
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:26 AM
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Radfems believe in female supremacy and so do liberal feminists. They just disagree on the form it should take and how quickly it should manifest. Radfems are just slightly more extreme, liberal feminists with the mask off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:18 AM
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Having a hard and fast rule does not make that rule rational. That’s not how logic or rationality works
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:34 PM
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There is not a single thing that is rational about radical feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:01 PM
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They are increasingly converging to the point that unless the sane women begin to call out the radfems and make more of an effort to separate themselves from them, then they are essentially the same group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:20 AM
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I have never seen a bigger misunderstanding of male thinking in my entire life
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:29 PM
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If abuse is so rampant as feminists claim it is, then actually the average man in a relationship is probably far more angry and abusive than the ones who aren’t. But you don’t want to talk about those averages.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:20 PM
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Who’s saying that that’s not what’s happening? See how you just had to make up a whole scenario in your head for the woman to not be in the wrong? That’s the type of stuff that needs to be purged from society
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:53 AM
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We aren’t talking about average now are we
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:51 AM
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Laughing in your face, throwing drinks in your face, pointing you out to her friends so they can laugh at you, just general behavior of someone who feels like they’re dealing with someone less than them. It’s actually crazy you even felt the need to ask that question
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:50 AM
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I don’t have to. Those guys usually aren’t angry
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:48 AM
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It isn’t one exception. Plenty of guys just find reasons to pick fights and be angry. You have to account for that. Blaming my pointing it out on Occam’s razor is actually hilarious though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:46 AM
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You really aren’t getting this. There are men who will still find reasons to be angry even when none exist. This isn’t from some nebulous lack of sex or whatever. You have to account for those guys too or else your answer doesn’t make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 01:44 AM
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This reads like a revenge fantasy and not an actual question of substance about anything. I see through you troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 01:33 AM
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No I’m saying that if the theory is that men are angry because they aren’t getting sex then you have to explain the men that are getting sex and are still angry. Similarly, even if we assume your nebulous explanation, you still have to have an explanation for the men who are getting what they want, whatever that may be, and still hate women. Stop playing these games.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 01:31 AM
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What do you think would change exactly if they were private agreements vs. state sanctioned? Because I can tell you from a legal standpoint that the answer is nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 01:28 AM
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You’re never going to get the government out of marriage contracts because someone has to rule on them and enforce them. This is just a big misunderstanding of how the law works
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:53 AM
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They have a lot of anger towards women and they also get laid a ton. Explain that instead of pretending I don’t know how to read. Knock it off
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:47 AM
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The problem with linking all of this to evolution is all the examples we have of culture shaping attraction throughout history. Linking all of this to genetics gives women a cop out that they should not be afforded.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:46 AM
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Then explain the men who get sex constantly and still hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:43 AM
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Oh you sweet summer child. You seriously think that’s all they do? Are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:42 AM
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Then explain all the abusive men in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:41 AM
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There are plenty of men that have sex with women all the time that still hate them. So no, that’s not the problem, not even close. It’s a female fantasy that they think they have that much influence over us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:40 AM
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No. It really isn’t. Haven’t you read Shakespeare?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 09:42 AM
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Ya no I empathize with them less now
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:16 AM
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It has everything to do with it. If you don’t understand how this very obviously relates to the topic at hand your reading comprehension is in the dumpster and I’m not going to help you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 12:42 AM
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But you continue to forget that biology is not the only determinant of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:49 PM
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You have no understanding of logic. Logic stands on its own because it makes sense on its own. No sources are needed for something to be logical. Sources often back logic, but the logic stands regardless of the existence of sources. That’s pretty embarrassing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:09 PM
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So find him attractive then. You are not a passive actor in your own life you know
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:58 PM
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It is far from a random guess. It’s basic logic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:58 PM
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Cultures have defined attractiveness as much as biology. There’s a reason why there are African tribes where people intentionally grow really long necks because it’s attractive to the culture they’re in. Attraction can and should be controlled and molded and we are doomed as a society if we don’t try.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:41 PM
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Im saying women need to redefine attractiveness and they will have a better time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:37 PM
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The orgasm gap happens because women tend to only be attracted to the upper echelon of men but sleep with men they aren’t attracted to for other reasons. Teach women to lower their standards and the orgasm gap will close.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 06:14 PM
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It’s gaslighting to assume that people aren’t trying to improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:57 PM
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It isn’t black and white though. And you have no idea what a no true Scotsman fallacy is. TRP doesn’t mandate anything, it’s literally just a description of the dating world that differs from the mainstream and is backed by actual data. It tracks what women actually do and not what they say in dating and reports the differences. You’re just mad that it exposes the lies that women tell both men and themselves. You’re just as, if not more shallow than men are. There is no moral judgement there, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:07 PM
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Okay so your make-up-a-guy was actually based on a few Reddit posts and not one. Totally comprehended the point I was making. You nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:56 PM
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Then criticize the comments. Don’t make up an entire personality to get mad at.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:56 PM
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Okay so you’re going off of personal experience of a few people you’ve decided are representative of TRP and decided that’s what it is. Good to know you’ve already convinced yourself that’s what TRP is so there’s no use even trying to engage with you. I guarantee you already decided what TRP was before and found men to observe that exhibited behaviors you don’t like and decided that they must be redpill. Most common post hoc fallacy there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:55 PM
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She didn’t give him actionable advice she decided what he was like and then criticized him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:50 PM
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No one said do it at the expense of other qualities. That’s something you made up out of cognitive dissonance. There is no self selection going on. It’s literally just people who observed reality and didn’t delude themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:58 AM
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The gaslighting continues apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:56 AM
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It’s crazy how much you’ve decided about his personality based on a Reddit post. Real make-up-a-guy stuff going on right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:28 AM
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No, we really don’t. And the facts back that up when push actually comes to shove
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:20 AM
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So let me get this straight. You’re mad that men are initiators in a social era where men are expected to be the initiators. And you simultaneously think that the solution is to limit men’s initiation. That would be the end of dating and relationships. The actual solution is to hold women accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:26 PM
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Okay so if you’re not forcing then you’re not really doing anything because a non normie child is not going to do normie shit willingly
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:18 PM
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Just because you think your thoughts are nuanced and use the word doesn’t mean they are. If you want your child to be around normies then they have to do normie shit. If they do other stuff that usually opens them up to endless bullying or peer pressure to not be who they are. Maybe they’ll like normie stuff, I know I did. But if they don’t you’re just forcing them to be around people that are actively harmful to them in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:43 PM
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If it isn’t forced and just encouraged then you’ve accomplished nothing. If you want them to be around normies all the time then they have to do normie shit, which in the grand scheme of all activities is a relatively narrow set of things. And I said “outside of straight up abuse” please learn how to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:39 PM
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That’s the only thing most men get to experience anyway. You new here or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:19 PM
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If you agree with niche-maxing then the whole point of your post goes right down the drain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:14 PM
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This is forcing people who may not be comfortable around “normies” to be around them and potentially face horrible bullying situations while denying them outlets for their own creativity and happiness because they aren’t “normie” enough. I cannot think of a worse way to raise a child outside of straight up abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:07 PM
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There were a couple. But our relationships mostly existed online where the rest of our friends were. It’s incredible to me that that’s the part you decided to zero in on while completely ignoring the majority of what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:42 PM
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And so the solution is for men to simply become more feminine? That’s the only logical conclusion that can be derived from that comment and there are bottomless reasons why that would be a bad idea. The much simpler solution is to stop teaching generations of women that men are evil and want to hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:38 PM
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Reported for more contentless rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:35 PM
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Affection and sexual attraction are two very different things and while the latter is nice, the former is what men really want. It’s pretty easy to cultivate when you stop telling generations of women that men are big scary evil monsters
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:28 PM
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Reported for not providing a substantive response.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:26 PM
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We do. How many times are women going to pretend like there isn’t a difference between those types of love? You understand it perfectly fine when it’s yourselves but when it’s men making the distinction suddenly we have to explain it to you like you’re 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:25 PM
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The people at my high school were shitty to me. My friends online gave me an outlet and a community that created purpose and drive. The issue is not that the forums for creating friends are worse, it’s that half the population now sees us as nothing but a threat to be managed, especially if you are not conventionally attractive, and that is extremely isolating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:24 PM
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Yes, teaching women that men are people worthy of love and respect and not some scary monsters you’d prefer to get mauled by a bear instead of be around
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:17 PM
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That’s what I’d say if I was inventing a cop out too. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:15 PM
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Me when I invent a cop out to excuse my shitty behavior and deny my role in an increasing societal problem. Very well done. You would have fooled a much dumber person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:07 PM
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There is action. Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it has impacted male relationships. Also that’s such a cop out even if my first sentence weren’t true that doesn’t mean women are excused from their shitty behavior towards men that make it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:05 PM
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Man you have to be unbelievably privileged to even think that’s the solution. This is why men don’t believe women when they say they care about men. You can’t say things like this and also think you care about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:57 AM
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Clearly your outlook is less representative of the treatment of men if the stats are showing an increasingly prevalent male loneliness and mental health crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:43 AM
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Me when I don’t have an actual rebuttal so I just make up a guy I don’t like and assume it’s the one I’m talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:16 PM
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Ah yes, even when women are playing games and using men, it’s men’s fault for allowing themselves to be used.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:13 PM
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Ah yes, even when women are playing games and using men, it’s men’s fault for allowing themselves to be used.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:13 PM
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Again, a subjective deviation here and there does not take away from the general bell curve of attractiveness. That bell curve doesn’t change just because everyone puts in max effort to be attractive. That’s not how statistics works
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:19 PM
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Just because some people have preferences does not mean there isn’t a general trend. It’s just gaslighting to insinuate that isn’t the case
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:38 AM
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If everyone is handsome then no one is handsome. Women always create a hierarchy. If all men devoted their time to becoming better looking, women would still only chase the top 20% of men, they’d just be even better looking than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:38 PM
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There’s not being attracted and then there’s finding them ugly to the point you wonder why she’s with him. If you can’t see the difference then you’re either stupid or being intentionally obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:30 AM
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Love how you immediately took it to the other extreme. Very good debate skills right there
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:29 AM
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If you’re constantly reinforcing that women are the prize, as they do, then simple logic dictates that the men they date are not the prize
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:27 AM
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This isn’t about being horny and you know it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:24 AM
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Okay have fun approaching insta models with that mindset. Hope it works for you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:52 PM
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Women are liars and virtue signalers. Something we already innately know by existing in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:46 PM
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Women say shit like this and then wonder why so many men are taking themselves off the dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:45 PM
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But they want those things because it makes people want to be around them. It’s still fundamentally intertwined with your second description
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:31 PM
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It’s crazy that bluepillers are at the point of justifying shitty female behavior towards men because men have the audacity to have a sexuality. Crazy stuff these past few months. Bluepillers are really at their wits end trying to defend their positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:17 PM
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Blue pillers absolutely say this all the time. They quickly delete the comments and posts because they realized they let the mask slip but they still do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:15 PM
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That’s exactly what they want. Lull them to sleep by telling the same false stories over and over again until one day they just die I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:13 PM
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I mean, that’s kind of what people are thinking about when they say “the prize”. Nobody thinks of themselves as a shiny trinket.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:12 PM
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“This thing that they are directly saying for the purpose of directly uplifting women and putting down men doesn’t mean it’s plain meaning because I’ve decided it doesn’t”- you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:07 PM
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Yes. I do. As do many of my friends. And it’s not like I’m just friends with ugly weirdos who say creepy things to women either before you go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:29 PM
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How many more times do men need to tell you it’s our regular lived experience to finally be believed? It’s not just a video you can look up online, usually guys have multiple stories of instances like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:32 PM
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Revenge feminism could absolutely take the form of de facto discrimination and effectively has in many areas and your refusal to address that is basically just a concession at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:24 PM
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Okay so no argument. And I don’t know what you constitute as a personal attack but your threshold must be pretty low
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:51 PM
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You are saying that women’s word should be taken at face value and enough to arrest just like feminists are claiming in Spain. Don’t pretend like you weren’t defending them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:49 PM
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So what you’re telling me is you still don’t understand de jure vs de facto discrimination. Please educate yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:00 PM
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And you should be able to divorce them based on those grounds
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:59 PM
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So if you agree that laws and legislation aren’t the only things that determine discriminatory outcomes then surely women making up almost 2/3rds of many colleges is de facto discrimination. Unless of course you actually don’t understand these concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:58 PM
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Except you’re saying that police should be able to make arrests without probable cause anyway, the whole point is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:57 PM
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I’m saying that in a car theft they won’t automatically arrest anyone you accuse of stealing a car without probable cause. You’re saying police should make arrests without probable cause in cases of rape, or in the alternative, are saying that a mere accusation from a woman should give the police probable cause. Those are both extremely dangerous propositions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:55 PM
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There hasn’t been a law that closed off universities from women in over a century. Not everything happens because a law makes it that way. I thought people learned the difference between de jure and de facto discrimination in school but I guess not. There are plenty of email daycare jobs that exist primarily because someone convinced an executive in some company somewhere that it was a good idea, not because it’s actually necessary. It’s insane that you think everything works just like in your h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:31 PM
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I’d be okay with that if they weren’t allowed to leave with half my assets. You want to start over for a stupid reason? Then actually start over and don’t make me finance your fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:09 PM
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What do you think is happening right now? Men are being disenfranchised from higher education, Genz women make more money than genz men in many major cities, male jobs (that are necessary for society to function) are being disenfranchised while female oriented jobs (made up bullshit) are being created. All in the name of “the future is female”. You’re simply blind if you don’t see the trend
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:06 PM
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Except you don’t get charged just because you’re accused. You don’t understand the legal system whatsoever and that’s your main problem in understanding his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:02 PM
0

Comparing a car theft to a woman just randomly accusing men or rape and expecting to be believed is certainly a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:01 PM
1

Ah I see we’re playing “make up a guy”. A pastime on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:57 PM
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Feminists want to do all of those things. I’ve seen feminist leaders online calling for men to be raised in prisons until we prove that we are safe to be in society. It’s what you want, some of you just suck at hiding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:55 PM
-1

There are plenty of leftist feminist women who think it’s a good idea. This is how these ideas become popular, you first introduce them as half jokes and then over time people start to actually want those policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:54 PM
1

So you’re just for the abolition of marriage altogether then? Because that’s an entirely different position than being for no fault divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:48 PM
1

Whether something is abuse is left to a trier of fact. There’s no set of actions that are considered abusive and some that aren’t. You simply don’t know the legality of what you’re talking about. You assume in your second complaint that the person leaving is because the other person is behaving badly. If they were really behaving that badly you’d have a ground for a fault based divorce anyway. You’re literally just describing a fault based divorce system. You can’t defend on those grounds. You h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:47 PM
1

In a court of law, with evidence. The same way you’d determine any other factual issue when attempting to achieve some legal outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:40 PM
1

No, it isn’t. Marriage is nothing more than a costly joke if the only reason you need to get out of it is boredom. Yeah because catching someone in the act is the only way to prove something happened. You have the legal knowledge of a 4 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:57 PM
1

So your complaint is that the person actually has to prove the things they’re accusing another person of? That’s seriously your complaint?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:54 PM
1

They are the only valid reasons for getting divorced. Divorcing someone because you’re bored of them is not a valid reason actually. And yes you should have evidence of the things you are accusing someone of in order to accuse them of it. Patterns of abuse are typically pretty easy to show especially in 2024. The things you’re complaining about are non issues
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:13 PM
0

I’m addressing the fact that you seem to think no fault divorce enabled people who were being abused or neglected to divorce. That’s incorrect. The only thing no fault divorce did was enable women who were bored of their husbands to take half their estate and bounce. If you’re unhappy because you’re bored of your spouse that’s a you problem and divorce should not be the remedy. That’s a total lack of accountability that is being actively rewarded by the legal system
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:07 PM
2

Something that is forced or coerced would make the marriage void to begin with. You aren’t addressing the actual issue here
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:32 PM
0

People in the situations you described would be able to seek a fault based divorce though. That’s what I don’t get about people who think no fault divorce is good, every time they cite a reason for it it’s a reason that would get you a fault based divorce anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:30 PM
1

People in abusive relationships should not have to stay in them. But that’s already what fault based divorce is for. You either have a good reason for divorcing someone or you can’t divorce them. That’s what people mean when they say abolish no fault divorce and that’s why I’m okay with that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:28 PM
2

Yes. Women do it everywhere on Reddit and then turn around and think they’re great for women because they won’t need men anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:48 PM
2

It’s not a conspiracy at all. It’s literally the same subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:47 PM
-4

There’s nothing to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:26 AM
3

It’s called working hard and getting a good job. We don’t have the cheat code like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:12 PM
-2

Then prove it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:20 AM
8

Actually the most simple answer is that those women did some mental gymnastics to justify their hypocrisy as many women and feminists do on Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:40 PM
18

Considering it came from the same subreddit I’d like to see some hard proof that that’s the case
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:36 PM
-1

Your assertion that only people who talk about misogyny on this sub get punished. Involuntary commitment level talk there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:29 PM
-7

Lololol that’s real rich. Blue pillers can say virtually anything they want to redpillers and not get even a slap on the wrist. That is certifiably insane
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:14 PM
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That is the dumbest rule on this sub by a mile and virtually never enforced when blue pillers do it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:12 PM
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True. I just saw a post from r/womenofscience where a bunch of female academics were essentially glazing each other over how terrible men are and insinuating that men that aren’t as educated as them are essentially subhuman and if any man had said any of the things these women are saying he would be fired from his job and ostracized from his field for the rest of his life. The double standards are insane and not really calculable. There aren’t studies being done about this, nobody is trying to q…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:34 PM
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Yes. Women’s sense of entitlement knows no bounds
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:09 PM
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You’re a minority among women then
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:01 PM
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It’s called permanent alimony. It lasts indefinitely. What you’re talking about is called durational alimony or even rehabilitative alimony. There is also alimony in futuro which is essentially the same thing as permanent alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:38 PM
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You’re describing a type of alimony. There are other types that are more permanent and a spouse may still receive even if they worked
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:00 PM
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They cheat when they feel like they aren’t getting enough sex and someone else will give them sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:25 PM
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I didn’t say 15-20% of men are in relationships. I’m saying 15-20% of men are being actively chosen by women. Plenty of men are settled for. Also stop making this personal. I don’t know why so many women on this sub have to make everything so personal all the time. This is why men have discounted your opinions and called you emotional for centuries. You have a general lack of ability to not make things personal when arguing with someone. Knock it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:17 PM
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Men are not more notorious for hypergamy. Every shred of evidence shows the opposite actually. Just because someone cheats doesn’t mean they think that person is better. That’s how women think because they’re hypergamous. That isn’t why men cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:13 PM
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Then you are going after the wrong men. Stop being hypergamous
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:50 PM
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https://phys.org/news/2019-04-bare-faced-women-infidelity.html also those statistics are likely heavily skewed as women tend to be better at hiding infidelity so to say that men cheat more is nonsensical
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:41 PM
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I don’t think you know what hypergamy means. It isn’t sleeping with as many people as possible as you seem to think it is. Also, I do not care about how personal anecdote and you’re going to have to cite those statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:39 PM
5

Sure it’s unlikely. But I’m not writing her off based on it. I’m not a woman, I don’t assume the worst of a potential partner and then make up fake reasons in my head to leave them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:12 PM
5

None of those things are exclusive to women that are virgins though. There are agoraphobic women with literal boyfriends because that’s just how easy it is for women nowadays. The continued virginity likely speaks to self control more than anything you listed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:01 PM
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Andrea Dworkin Catherine McKinnon Sheila Jeffreys Carol Hanisch. Literally all of them wrote about creating societies free from men yet somehow also built on male labor. You don’t know the history you’re pretending to know and it shows
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:47 PM
8

Cool. That’s what I want. We’d be on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:43 PM
4

Then I’m sure those things would come up in the vetting process. Nobody said I have to give a diamond just because there’s still a hymen
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:42 PM
1

No it’s not. And I don’t care. I don’t value people based on how much sex they have. I’m not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:41 PM
4

That’s something I’d have to snuff out in the vetting process. I’m not offering her a ring immediately because she hasn’t spread her legs for chad for the last decade of her life. The situation is not that dire…yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:37 PM
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Yeah, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:36 PM
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I’ve studied far more history than you have. Men don’t like feminists because they want to create a gynocentric society built on male labor. They literally write manifestos explaining all of this shit. Clearly you’re the one that doesn’t know history
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:36 PM
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Crazy how women when give choices are all choosing the same 15-20% of men. Plenty of men have perfectly normal lives and are perfectly normal guys and still struggle with dating because they aren’t in that top tier. The idea that women are just in picking a partner based on how nice and outgoing they are is pure bullshit that has been disproven over and over and over again. Stop peddling that crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:34 PM
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A small minority of men cheat and sleep around more because hypergamous women let them. This is why we created societies that kept women’s hypergamy in check
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:28 PM
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I don’t even understand the question. Of course it’s better the lower the body count. What’s the conflict here?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:17 PM
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It isn’t rationalized misogyny it’s literally backed up by every piece of data on dating in existence. You’re just throwing around buzz words and making them lose all meaning
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:14 PM
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No. That is not why men hate feminists. Cut the strawman bullshit. He literally just told you why men hate feminists and you went and completely made up new reasons to fit your strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:10 PM
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How very convenient for you to believe that. You are literally on a sub called purple pill debate and talking about how there’s no middle ground between red and blue. Lmfaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:06 PM
2

Okay you keep believing that. And when you end up a cuck don’t come crying to the red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:30 PM
4

He’s right. Being single is infinitely better in every way than being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:23 PM
11

That’s great. But it can’t come at the expense of all other boys and men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/24 11:14 AM
1

My friends are fine. They have been nothing but great to me. You aren’t addressing the problem by telling people to get new hobbies or friends unless they actually don’t have those things. I do. So you aren’t helping with that advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:31 PM
2

Not that I know of
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:51 PM
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That was exactly what I am apart of and I still struggle. It’s why I’m a combination of red and black pill because easily 95% of female attraction is just looks and their refusal to acknowledge it is incredibly frustrating
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:34 PM
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Boy this is some real sexist shit an presumes 0 accountability on the part of women. It’s incredible that these posts get left up while the most mundane posts with proof of redpill theories get taken down in an instant. This sub is a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:30 PM
2

Again you make these absolutely insane assumptions with absolutely no proof. You need actual evidence of what your saying or I’m simply never going to take you seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:12 PM
3

You need to have evidence of these things. You can’t just say shit and expect me to believe you. Bots and sex workers are pretty pervasive on dating apps. Any guy who’s actually been on a dating app will tell you this. So if you’re going to say otherwise you need some real substantive evidence to back it up. Put up or shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:58 PM
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You are assuming that A. Someone has swiped on you, and B. That that person isn’t a bot or sex worker. Those are massive assumptions that show you just don’t understand how dating apps work on a fundamental level.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:24 PM
11

That is just a total misunderstanding of both tinder and statistics. Well done
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:54 AM
2

He did read and flair correctly. You just wanted to suppress the information
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:43 PM
2

What is the discussion flair even for then if not for discussing the results of an experiment like that? It’s a pointless gotcha game racket you people are running here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:23 PM
2

Or you could just stop being nazis about a goddamn flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:22 PM
0

If you think my response is funny you either have a dumb sense of humor or don’t understand the situation at hand
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:17 PM
3

Love how the argument completely switches up when the first one doesn’t go so well 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:35 PM
0

We do. It happens all the time. Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not happening
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:08 AM
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Do you really honestly believe that experiment would have changed all that much if she lost a point or two in attractiveness? Come on now
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:00 AM
7

Considering this recent post https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/t4k7oKu8r9 I’d say that the redpill is alive and well so the thing that would convince me is a mountain of evidence showing the opposite of the things going on in that post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:20 AM
0

There are multiple 4b accounts on Twitter and websites both about them and made for them. I’m not going on a wild goose chase for a goose I don’t believe exists. If you have evidence to the contrary then feel free to link it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:50 PM
1

That’s such a cop out. It costs virtually nothing to support something. Yet they do nothing. They don’t support the abolition of the draft because the 4b movement is about the abolition of women’s gender roles, not men’s. Feminist movements want men squarely in our gender roles because they know at the end of the day it suits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:17 PM
2

I don’t disagree. But it’s a much larger minority for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 07:45 PM
3

Yes. It does. Most men can’t even get a swipe on tinder but you want me to believe that men are more engaged in hookup culture than women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 07:30 PM
1

That’s exactly what I’d be telling myself too. It all checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 07:11 PM
1

It’s okay I’d want to wipe that humiliating experience from my memory too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 07:04 PM
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They’re hounded by men who don’t believe in equality. Men who believe in equality are hounded by feminists when they try to advocate for men. That’s the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 07:03 PM
1

That was you. You kept posting a screenshot of my comment containing a double negative without realizing it thinking it was an admission of your point. You brag about how you work in a male dominated profession so you know so much about us yet failed to double check your own ‘proof’ you posted at me over and over again. So ya I’m gonna pass on heeding any warning from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:59 PM
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Because when men do they are usually hounded by feminists. The mere proposal of something like a men’s shelter in many cities is protested by feminist groups. Men’s mental health is mocked by feminists. When you are actively standing in the way of things getting better for men then men have to call you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:50 PM
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Aren’t you the woman who didn’t understand what a double negative was despite claiming how smart and accomplished you are? Ya I’ll take my chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:38 PM
4

No it is not lmfaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:56 PM
3

I’m judging rarity based on any type of engagement, past or present.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:54 PM
-2

That’s why the assertion was gross to begin with and she has been duly reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:50 PM
4

If someone tried weed 3 years ago they still tried weed. If a woman engaged in hookup culture once she still engaged in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:48 PM
1

No it’s saying the exact opposite. Feminists supporting men’s issues would be like putting efforts into brain cancer and prostate cancer at the same time. But they don’t. Because the movement isn’t about equality, it’s about handing the keys of society and government to women. Hence phrases like ‘the future is female’.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:46 PM
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Yes I have. When you show me a policy they have where they have taken active steps to abolish it then I’ll stand corrected. And active steps means more than posting something on a website somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:43 PM
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That isn’t goalpost moving. It’s the assertion that both parties participate equally in sex and are equally responsible for any resulting pregnancy. But only one party gets to decide if they actually want that child or not. That is the fundamental inequality at play that you keep intentionally missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:42 PM
1

The sudden silence that happens when I start talking about how women have agency in sex too is all I need to know. Hold this L
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:36 PM
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You control where your vagina is. But only one of us would have any control over what happens as a result of pregnancy. Stop acting like women have no agency in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:30 PM
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Women don’t need to worry about condoms because they can just opt out anyway. You are once again describing the fundamental inequality that you keep missing. You have as much control over whether the person you have sex with puts a condom on as they do, but they don’t control whether you get an abortion or not. So justify the inequality or take an L
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:28 PM
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We do not control all of our semen. Semen doesn’t just happen at ejaculation. It happens throughout sex. That’s why pulling out is a terrible way to avoid pregnancy. Holy shit did you not have sex Ed?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:26 PM
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Ever heard of precum? We don’t control that. Also that’s just a really uncalled for and gross comparison. Get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:24 PM
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Ejaculation isn’t the only way that a woman can become pregnant. Ever heard of precum? We don’t control that. I didn’t think I’d have to explain basic sex Ed on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:22 PM
2

You seriously think we can mind control each individual sperm to do exactly what we want. That is patently insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:11 PM
1

I don’t even understand the question. You’re acting like the redpill is supposed to make you start living life in a specific way. That couldn’t be further from the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:07 PM
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It isn’t rarer. You are just not as active participants. You can do it just once or twice to have your fill and be done, but you’re more than likely doing it with a guy who is attractive enough to do it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:06 PM
3

The most common woman tactic in the book. They hate when redpillers point it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:03 PM
1

“Decently attractive” who’s gonna tell her she already eliminated 80% of men right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:01 PM
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The fact that they don’t advocate for men when men are the ones in the worse situation is just proof that feminists are bullshitting when they say they want equality and that feminists getting their way is good for men. Clearly that isn’t the case if they aren’t advocating for men when men are facing systemic issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:58 PM
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Men do not ‘control where they put their sperm’ for people that believe men know so little about women’s bodies you sure don’t know jack shit about ours. You get to have sex and decide what to do about it after. We don’t. That is an inherent unfairness. Telling men to control their sperm is like telling women to control their periods. That’s just a ridiculous misunderstanding of basic biology
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:56 PM
0

I’m not doing half if I work more and make more money. Not happening
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:53 PM
9

It’s rare for men because only a few men get to participate in it. Many more women get to participate in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:45 PM
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Under this theory women get to have sex freely with no consequences but men can’t. That’s ridiculous and that’s exactly what OP was talking about regarding the inequality there. You’re essentially proving his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:42 PM
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South Korea has mandatory military service and a large feminist movement. At no point have I heard anything from that movement that would indicate they want to abolish mandatory military service for men. Women can say these things in the abstract, but when push comes to shove they tend to feel differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:38 PM
2

For people whose perception of reality is already off. For most people that get told to go to therapy their perception of reality isn’t off, it’s just that their reality sucks. There’s nothing a therapist can do about that. Even therapists like healthygamergg readily admit that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 08:05 PM
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I don’t think you understand the current radfem position. They think that men are less developed apes that are prone to violence. You could eliminate scarcity and they would absolutely still think that about men. They aren’t thinking these things from the point of view of an oppressor, they’re thinking them from the POV of people who already have privilege
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/24 08:32 PM
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I think you could build a communist utopia tomorrow and it still would not solve a lot of men’s issues. I believe this because in places where equality has been achieved, or women and minorities are the dominant voices, such as college campuses, they are the most anti man. They didn’t achieve equality and go “well mission accomplished guess I can stop hating on men now” they use that newfound dominance to hate men even more. As much of an anti capitalist as I am, getting rid of capitalism does n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/24 02:29 PM
1

Find a way to actually be happy, not artificially happy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:20 PM
1

That isn’t the same type of data. That’s the data they sell to other people. No one else cares about your swipe habits except for bumble itself. Feel free to prove me wrong by requesting it. But I’m not going on your wild goose chase. Your actual analytics related to your profile you have to pay for. This is really not that hard man come on
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:20 PM
2

Women still need to change their attitudes. There can be all the third spaces in the world and if it’s still taboo to approach it won’t change anything
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:45 PM
2

What is that supposed to prove? That’s just saying they won’t sell it to other people not that they won’t sell it to you. Come on man that’s bad
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:14 PM
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The men are ending up alone not by choice though. Women could simply start approaching men or making third spaces safe for us but they have no interest in that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:04 PM
0

You are enforcing one standard for men and another for women on the basis that men should just ‘man up’ and take it. Yes that’s misandry. That isn’t me calling you that it’s basic objectivity and rationality. I don’t give a fuck about your grain of salt. I’ll stop comparing myself to women when they stop trying to be equal to us. So if you don’t want me to do that then get back in the kitchen 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:56 PM
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They are the most likely to be on anti depressants and have the most cause to tell people about how happy they are. So yeah, I don’t buy that narrative either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:51 PM
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Men don’t want to go to those spaces out of fear of embarrassment for trying to talk to women. It’s women that need to change here and until they acknowledge this en masse there are going to be a lot of women that end up alone
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:46 PM
2

I’m not denying that. I’m just saying if you don’t then that makes you a misandrist. You’re allowed to be that and no one will throw you in jail. But that doesn’t make you not a misandrist. That’s literally all I was saying. Holy shit, chill out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:32 PM
9

It isn’t idealization. It’s the natural competition that we are subjected to as a result of being born a straight man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:26 PM
5

Constant self reflection can be just as much of a trap. I had the opposite issue for a long time. I thought that each time I was rejected it was my fault and I just needed to be better and trying to achieve that perfection made me suicidal. Accepting that I was often rejected because I’m just pretty ugly and there’s not a whole lot I can do about that was pretty helpful to my mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:23 PM
9

You just performed an entire psychoanalysis in order to avoid accepting that women are often the source of men’s insecurities, often for attributes that are unchangeable like dick size or height or general facial attractiveness. I find that much more interesting than whatever is going on with OP
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:19 PM
-2

Funny how you use equality as an excuse to not enforce standards fairly instead of simply using it as a justification to enforce standards fairly. Curious 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:11 PM
1

I don’t use tinder I use bumble and they make you pay for that shit so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:03 PM
2

Actual potential companions. I’d swipe left on someone I found mildly attractive if she held complete opposite values from me. Most of my bluepill friends would too
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:28 PM
-1

Do what you want but don’t stop applying that standard to women. The things I’ve seen them say they do in public out of fear of men is actually wild and not necessary in the slightest. Call out weirdness from both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:27 PM
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Half of the things women say they do are just them being weird too if we’re gonna play that game
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:48 PM
2

No I’m mean like someone who is a little heavy but it’s in the right spots and they still look good isn’t fat. But someone who is like 300 pounds and isn’t some 6’7” offensive lineman is just fat. Everyone has different tolerances and men’s tend to be higher than women’s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:39 PM
1

Attraction isn’t the only thing that guys are looking for on dating apps contrary to popular belief
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:12 PM
-1

Definitions of fat can vary though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:11 PM
2

That’s actually a decent ratio. And given the volume of messages, even the least attractive women are still getting messages. Now do women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:44 PM
3

Those men never had any other options. Those women did. They are the ones settling. This is not hard. Aren’t you the one who didn’t understand double negatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:43 PM
2

I worked in family court so I got a lot of exposure to this. Usually the ones who don’t have Chad’s baby have serious obvious mental issues that make them desperate. Not exactly wife material.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:54 AM
6

Women find bottomless reasons to not date men that aren’t chad. I don’t care what reason you come up with this time
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:52 AM
4

No. You aren’t. Every piece of statistical data contradicts you. You are the ones who settle. You just think it doesn’t count if you don’t call it settling
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:50 AM
2

That is literally why most women are with the men they are with especially the ones that get married after 30
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:49 AM
1

That’s the problem. You are choosing to not like them because your standards are too high. You’re insufferable people. It is your fault that you’re alone. Not the fault of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:17 PM
2

Alone doesn’t necessarily mean with a husband. It also could very well mean the children you created with said husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:19 PM
11

You’re making the assumption that those options are going to arise. That’s a huuuuuge assumption. It also makes the massive assumption that that’s what that guy is going to do. Usually guys that didn’t have infinite options develop more character than the ones who did. Your whole argument is predicated on lies and assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:17 PM
7

It isn’t randos it’s chads. You aren’t going around being attracted to normal average men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:15 PM
21

You’re describing the men with options. Stop describing the small portion of men with options as indicative of all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:57 PM
4

Then you will die alone and unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:55 PM
2

Lmfaooo what a lie. Maybe when you turn 35 and realize chad is losing interest
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:11 PM
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It’s hilarious how they concoct these stories while simultaneously not recognizing that they are dating an abusive asshole until it’s too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:53 PM
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Posts like these are where women on this sub let the mask slip enough to show everyone what they really think of men. And they really want us to believe they’re here in good faith LMFAOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:24 PM
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So don’t white yourself for Chad. Have some self control or accept the consequences of your poor decision making. It’s really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:03 AM
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You can not be in it for the sex and still find it a little disrespectful that she’s making you wait while other guys have not had to. Those things are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:09 PM
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That’s the thing. Alpha fucks beta bux used to be a very red pill worldview. Now bluepillers are accepting it and saying “so what? you should still be grateful” which is a massive difference. That was quite literally the whole point of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:22 PM
3

There’s understanding you’re not gonna be dating rich celebrities and then there’s being with someone you don’t really respect because they’re stable. If that’s what we’re gonna see happen more then we basically live in a matriarchy at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:19 PM
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I don’t think it’s that. I think it’s consciously accepting someone below your standards. Men may do that for a one night stand or something, but not really as much in a relationship context.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:13 PM
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You don’t have to believe that but the pervasive belief among bluepillers used to be that if you’re being settled for then you should go find someone else, which is a stark contrast from the ‘you should be grateful for what you can get’ attitude that they seem to have today.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:11 PM
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It’s not unfair to both. It’s unfair to the person being settled for. The other person needs to take some personal accountability. And that’s cool and all but you’re a dying breed even among the people who identify with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:07 PM
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Nowhere does that say vast majority. And he’s right. Dating app and casual dating data confirms this. It’s incredible we have to keep relitigating this over and over because some people just cannot except the reality that most men are getting passed over when it comes to dating options. Occasionally getting lucky or having a girlfriend for a month in high school doesn’t take away from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:05 PM
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Bluepillers think that those men should be happy though. They don’t understand why someone would be unhappy being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:00 PM
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Why do you feel bad for women? They could simply just stop having unrealistic standards and their problems could be solved. The men they settle for are the ones actually hurt by those unrealistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:54 PM
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Not a lot of men are actually saying that. I’m redpilled and I don’t say that. You’re making up men to be mad at.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:52 PM
5

He never said vast majority. If even half are not entering into romantic relationships then that’s a significant amount that warrants discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:50 PM
6

Getting lucky every once in a while is not the same as getting into an actual committed relationship. The rates go way up when that is taken into account
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:32 PM
1

Yes. That’s the whole point. Alpha fucks beta bux. It’s just the sad reality of being an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:29 PM
-8

That’s you choosing to read it that way though. You’re just twisting what’s actually being said into something you deem bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:27 PM
4

You can have a sense of humor and a good personality without being disagreeable all the time. In fact, being disagreeable and having a good personality are mutually exclusive things. You just twisted his words and started talking about whatever you wanted to talk about instead of actually responding
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:24 PM
1

I don’t have much experience so it would be nice to be on the same level there. Also my number 1 personal rule in dating is to not be settled for. Someone who is choosing to be with me while they’re young is clearly not settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:26 PM
1

A
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:23 PM
11

That only applies after the woman has spent years whoring herself for Chad. Don’t do that in the first place and men are going to know what it takes to get sex. Your past choices matter, they are the only way to remotely accurately judge someone’s future behavior. You can whore yourself for Chad when you’re young, but don’t expect commitment before sex then when you’re older. You traded that away.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:18 PM
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This isn’t about casual sex. It’s about feeling the need to enforce a rule that should be automatic. You only feel the need to enforce the rule if it hasn’t been automatic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:15 PM
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If that’s even having to happen it means that women are only dating chad. There are plenty of average guys who would gladly take that deal. If women are having to enforce that then we know who they’ve been dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:25 PM
1

There aren’t such things as men feelings and woman feelings. There are just feelings. Pretending like even something as simple as the way we feel is different is both ridiculous and dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 12:18 PM
2

But you’re only applying that to lesbians. What I’m saying is that if you also applied it to straight couples then you’d see women do a much higher share of violence. Because that’s what the whole thing is about, proportional shares of violence. But you don’t want to do that because it would look bad. You haven’t proven anything with actual context added.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 12:16 PM
3

The occasional roast by your friends is not why men feel lonely or suicidal. You simply have no understanding of men and don’t want to look inward to your own potential toxic behavior toward men. Pretty bleak from a blue piller
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:07 AM
1

But the reason that argument is even made is to prove that women are more violent than the statistics show. You can’t debunk an argument without doing it in the context in which it is made. You’re not really accomplishing anything then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:05 AM
1

Not in the ways you’re describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:01 AM
4

At least you’re valued at all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 12:46 AM
5

No it isn’t her interpretation is just a straight up lack of reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 12:35 AM
4

We had empathy. We lost it having to lead lives where we recognized that the only woman that would ever truly love us is our mother. Change that and the empathy will return.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 12:33 AM
2

Like what
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 12:32 AM
3

Feelings are feelings. Socialization is a byproduct of society. All of these things you’re describing are completely malleable. You act like men are somehow biologically wired to better handle these things but we’re not. All of this stuff is changeable and should be changed but there are a lot of women very keen on not changing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 12:31 AM
1

Yes they absolutely have
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 11:16 PM
3

Yeah and the stated goal for right wing think tanks is to “promote prosperity” or some shit but if you think for a second that’s their actual goal you should look up cause gullible is written on your ceiling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:05 PM
1

You talk about how lesbians are more likely to report minor instances without even asking yourself if heterosexual men would even report that stuff. Female violence against men in relationships is so normalized that when it happens, even if minor goes unreported. You somewhat acknowledge this, but it undermines your entire point. If men were running to the police every time their partner hit them, we’d be having a very different conversation about domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:07 PM
3

Even then we’re still in an impossible situation. You’re still asking us to know whether you’re someone who wants direct communication or to take signals. You think it’s hard as a woman reading who doesn’t read minor body language, now try being a man and having to both read that language and gauge how you should act upon it. We’ve been thrown into an impossible situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:50 PM
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I don’t think they want to win high value men. If you looked at their forums and stuff when a woman on there starts talking about a guy she thinks is high value that she met, the other women instantly try to over analyze and find reasons why he’s actually a POS and convince her to stop seeing him. They just all want to be together in their collective misery. Not unlike many factions of the red pill, although that’s really more the blackpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:46 PM
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The actual group itself is more passive, but their ideas have spread like wildfire into the minds of many genz women to the point that their ideas are very mainstream, those women just don’t know where they originated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:37 PM
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I wouldn’t call it rules it’s more like excuses to not date the perfectly fine guy in front of you because you’re a delusional sociopath. With TRP it’s more that they’re setting boundaries,most of which are reasonable, some of which are not, and everyone hones in on the parts of the movement saying wild shit e.g. Andrew Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:31 PM
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So men are supposed to read signs, but also not read signs. Love it. Great. Cool dating world women have developed for us 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:16 PM
2

Some men get settled for. Whoop Dee fucking doo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:13 PM
1

Abortion is a big one but since it’s still legal in most places and men never get a say in fatherhood anyway that doesn’t seem like some super unequal rights issue to me. Unequal distribution of housework is another common one I see which would be almost completely solved by women choosing to be less hypergamous but since they aren’t keen on that I don’t see a reason to jump on that bandwagon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:35 PM
1

That would be a better term for it given that women are often as guilty of it as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:32 PM
3

It’s beyond apps. Any study where women are asked to evaluate the attractiveness of men. The data coming out showing that less and less young men are getting a chance at a relationship. You’re focusing in on one part of what I said and completely missing the bigger picture. Complete bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:31 PM
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No they’re not. Literally any study about observable dating preferences and swipe data on dating apps disproves you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:51 PM
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Just because outlier exist doesn’t mean you should reject the data though. That’s what you’re doing when you bring up anecdotal outliers. That’s what’s frustrating
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:46 PM
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Most of Reddit at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:38 PM
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Not in the sense that I expect to change the opinion of the person I’m talking to. Half the women on here are just straight up trolls and the mods do nothing about them so it’s not about them it’s more about getting coherent argument out in general
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:26 PM
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I am extremely active while I watch my team play. I’m pretty sure there’s a noticeable dip in the floor in front of the TV from all the pacing back and forth
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:20 PM
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Kind of a moot point considering I’d kick her to the curb if either ever happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:17 PM
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I think it should exist but I don’t think that you should be entitled to spousal support if you get a no fault divorce. Alimony should be reserved for fault based divorces
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:16 PM
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This will not be a true debate sub until the mods are replaced or enforce the rules fairly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:14 PM
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No you aren’t. If you were you wouldn’t all consistently be going for the same 20% of men. There is literally no argument you could make that would make any sense as long as that fact remains true. You are not more varied in your attraction. In fact, the facts on your actual actions (not your self reported attractions) are proof that women are just as, if not more, shallow than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:11 PM
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You keep doing your mental gymnastics about how men should actually be attracted to older women and men will just keep being attracted to younger women because that’s what we’re biologically programmed to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:09 PM
0

It isn’t a few guys. It’s enough that they can be social media influencers and make a living from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:33 PM
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It’s better than saying there’s more to your attraction than looks and then overwhelmingly choosing to fuck chad. The fact that men are even debating the attractiveness of obese women is proof that our attraction is more varied than women’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:33 PM
2

If you fuck 10 young women and 2 deliver stillbirths versus fucking 10 older women and half don’t even get pregnant that’s still a better way to produce offspring from an evolutionary standpoint. This is just not that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:25 PM
3

What does that have to do with this at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:23 PM
5

Ability to conceive is the most important to men from an evolutionary standpoint so your biology coping isn’t even correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:05 PM
8

Be concerned all you want. As long as ick culture remains in place you’ll just have to understand our precaution the same way you want men to understand all of the precautions you take.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:47 AM
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Yes. Complaining about things like manspreading and mansplaining is a sign that your movement is running out of significant issues to be mad about so you have to work harder at finding things to be mad about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:25 AM
8

That’s not courage that’s stupidity
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:08 AM
9

There are a wide range of emotions. You don’t need to share all of them with people
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:03 AM
2

That’s really a moot question
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:02 AM
3

No. Not ‘as in hold them accountable’. Demean means demean. I actually mean the words that I say unlike you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:53 PM
4

Toxic masculinity wins again. Talking about disparities in the justice system gets met with “just be a man bro”. Roided degeneracy at work
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:52 PM
4

And all that can be controlled for. I thought you were in academia?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:50 PM
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I’m not disputing whether they should be punished for a crime or not. I’m disputing why men receive far harsher sentences that will increase their recidivism compared to women. Holy shit have just one nuanced bone in your body please I’m begging you. Less lifting, more reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:43 PM
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I’m not going to do your work for you. I’m simply saying that if a study didn’t do something as simple as control for something like priors, race, socioeconomic status, etc. it wouldn’t even be published in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:41 PM
3

You’re still trying to circlejerk lmfaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:39 PM
2

Okay and when you start doing that for women’s misbehavior as much as you do for men’s people might actually start to care about your shaming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:39 PM
3

Why does that bother you? You seem super invested in shaming men who want nothing to do with you. That’s pretty weird. The fact that you care so much about whether men are choosing to date women or not is pretty telling on your views of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:37 PM
0

Getting scared huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:34 PM
7

Studies can easily control for wealth disparity and race among other factors. What they have revealed is that women receive lighter sentences for the same crimes. That’s not okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:28 PM
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But that isn’t what the studies are talking about. They talk about harsher sentences for the same crime, not a nonviolent crime committed by women vs violent crime committed by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:26 PM
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The studies control for that. The good ones at least. Everything you’ve mentioned would be controlled for and if it wasn’t it would be laughed out of academia and probably never even published.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:24 PM
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This woman is a troll who hates men don’t even bother she’s just baiting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:22 PM
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Most women aren’t on dating apps at any one given time. But they have been there. They just don’t have to stay there because they can pick and choose through hundreds of matches in a day and just delete again once they’ve selected a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:17 PM
3

Why does that matter even a little bit?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:13 PM
7

No. Rejection sucks. Feeling bad about it, especially if it’s the only thing you’ve experienced, is a perfectly rational and fine thing to do. This right here is what I’d define as toxic masculinity. Shoving your emotions down and tricking your mind because society demands you push on regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:09 PM
2

Your small talk could be the best of any human on earth. It won’t make a difference if they reject all cold approaches
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:03 PM
3

Then you don’t get to complain about dating and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:59 PM
5

That still is a small minority. You aren’t disproving his claim
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:50 PM
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I was once was at a bar with my friends where my friends knew the bartenders and bouncers and this group of 3 or 4 girls walks in and sits next to me. I didn’t pay them much attention because I was there with my friends but when they got up to leave one of the girls left her purse on the barstool. The bartender asked me to give it to them real quick while they were right outside waiting for an Uber, so I did and when I went to give it to the girl who had left it she gave me the most disgusted lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:50 PM
1

Pretty much exactly what I said in my first comment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:19 PM
1

I didn’t take what you said into account because you deliberately ignored parts of my argument. Why would I respond substantively to someone who isn’t operating in good faith? You can’t just pick and choose the parts you like, it was a whole cohesive point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:00 PM
1

I do though. And I’ve seen thousands on dating apps. That is the general attitude of women of my generation and I’m simply not gonna put up with it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 12:51 PM
4

Most of you do shit on men here. It’s not nice and inviting for men either when our experiences are minimized and our opinions are often censored by the mods who will do anything for the women on this sub and absolutely jack shit for the men. Most of you are here just to troll and torment us. You cannot convince me otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:40 AM
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It isn’t someone, it’s my experience with every woman of my generation that I’ve interacted with and I’ve been through both college and law school now so it’s been a lot. Not to mention dating apps and general attitudes of genz women on social media. Yours is just an anecdote meant to gaslight. One anecdote is not going to convince me of the opposite of what I have been observing from thousands of women my entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:36 AM
1

The studies that show that are usually deeply flawed. Plus women have a much lower threshold for something being considered dirty or in need of being done.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:33 AM
1

No it’s I know hundreds of women and I’ve had the displeasure of scrolling through thousands of women on dating apps at this point. That is the overall attitude of genz women. It is depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:30 AM
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I like how you only took the first part of what I said men do into account in your response. Reading comprehension 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:28 AM
2

I love the “I know a woman” line. A classic of the women on here. If that’s really the case she has no one to blame but herself because there are more men willing to pick up those duties in her generation than ever before in history. She’s clearly dating based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:04 AM
4

That is not the reason most of you are on this sub and you know it LMFAO
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:58 AM
6

The extremes aren’t coming from the person’s behavior though. They’re coming from the reaction to that behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:25 PM
2

Women in general? yes. Women on this sub? LMFAO
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:18 PM
3

They choose the worst men based on looks because at the end of the day they are every bit as shallow as men are and more, and then complain that those men think less of them. I have no sympathy for those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:16 PM
3

Of course there are a few guys that are like that. I never claimed that 100% of men were a certain way. If that’s what you thought was implied you can stay mad and illiterate
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:22 PM
5

They absolutely do. You are describing such a low percentage of men who were asked these things for content after the content creator had likely asked dozens if not hundreds of other people on the street already and basing your view of men off of it. You’re no better than the guys who consume Andrew Tate content after seeing a video of a woman being shitty online.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 09:51 PM
7

That’s because they usually know how to offload the information, and not just storing it with their wife. I don’t know the address for my dentist, but I know how to find out, and not because I have a wife that knows for me. You aren’t putting more effort into a relationship because you can remember random bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 09:36 PM
11

I’d imagine the vast majority of men know the answer. Blue pilled guys seem to think that they’re some minority that can do chores and errands. The vast majority of men, especially millennial and genz men, are competent human beings, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 09:33 PM
-3

Until you actually do that you are probably putting in less effort. That used to be the deal, men go to war and break our bodies doing difficult and dangerous jobs and women have babies. You aren’t doing that anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 09:30 PM
7

You may not have gotten that impression as a millennial but as a genz I can affirmatively say that there are many, like far too many, genz women who think their mere presence is enough. They’ve been raised to believe the things you’re saying, which might be true for older generations, and their solution is to not contribute anything at all so that that situation can never happen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 09:25 PM
1

There’s a legal term for it which I don’t remember right now but it essentially says that if you held yourselves out as being essentially married for a certain number of years, then payments can be made as a sort of alimony adjacent form dissolution of that relationship. Not even not marrying a woman can save a man from having to make what are effectively alimony payments anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 06:04 PM
1

That is not what they say. Incoming link to a single post or comment from 3 months ago
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:53 PM
1

Man you really just live in your own little world
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:06 PM
1

That isn’t what I was talking about in that comment. You really just say whatever the hell you feel like saying regardless if it has anything to do with what the other person said
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:05 PM
1

I’m not bitter about not getting the opportunity to be promiscuous. This is why I can’t take women seriously on this sub. You don’t know what we want. You assume the worst of us. You are not to be taken seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:39 PM
2

I’m allowed to judge the people I choose the spend my life with. And you are judging that decision whether you see it that way or not
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:53 PM
3

Accountable? The only person complaining here is her and you. Accountability lies with her not with him. Why do you keep acting like women have no agency except when it’s convenient? It’s so pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:36 AM
-1

I don’t care about you. I care about my potential future partner. I don’t want someone who relegated me to the trash bin to be a slut for Chad and now decides that I’m good enough now that I’ve invested in myself enough that I have a good life. That’s not fair to me and I don’t have to accept a raw deal. You can’t make me no matter how much you try to judge me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:29 AM
1

They should be. Go ahead and judge slutty men. The dating scene would improve dramatically. Except you won’t do that because women all want to sleep with the same small percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:26 AM
-2

Real nice story. Didn’t ask. Don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:24 AM
1

Go ahead and judge men for doing it. I’d love it if you did that. Unfortunately women want to all sleep with the same few men so you’re never actually going to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:23 AM
1

Go ahead and slut shame men who sleep around all you want. I don’t care. You think that’s a gotcha but it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:21 AM
1

If… you have to realize you’re not that special either. Why are you so adamant that men not have standards? Seems very odd like a massive cope or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:20 AM
1

You have an easy time getting sex. You complain constantly about not being able to find a long term partner
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:17 AM
0

The double standard would be not judging a woman by her past behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:47 AM
-1

I get that people change. But people who have long criminal records change too. But are you really gonna be the person that hires them and personally take that chance? You still aren’t addressing the core issue here. Why should I not judge women by the same metric that everyone else is judged by in life? What is the exception to absolve them of this kind of judgement that would otherwise be levied by a potential friend or employer?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:26 AM
-3

You’re assuming she won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:45 AM
1

K
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:44 AM
-5

You say that and then there’s an army of aging women and single moms on social media complaining that they can’t find a good man. So yes, that can be your position. But you can’t then go around complaining about the dating scene as a woman. The rules are clear. If you choose to break them that’s on you. Have some agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:44 AM
2

That’s what I’ve been insinuating. I was hoping people might be able to connect the dots on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:42 AM
-3

No it’s judging people using one of the few reliable metrics we have: past behavior. For some reason this is allowed in every other aspect of life but for some reason it’s not allowed when men go to choose a partner. It’s ridiculous and misandrist and men are beginning to wake up and not put up with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:41 AM
-2

Still not the question
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:07 AM
-2

Because when she’s older she’s going to want to settle, and she will be judged by the same metric we use to judge everyone else, their past.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:04 AM
-2

That wasn’t the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:53 AM
-8

Because I’m educated, in a lucrative field, and pretty easy going and nice to be around according to most people I interact with irl. How about you stop trying to deflect now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:44 AM
-8

Any amount of effort into any relationship is an investment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:42 AM
-3

I don’t think it was well posed. I think he’s really talking about promiscuous women who say they don’t want to be tied down earlier in life and then change their minds. There is genuine reason to doubt their intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:40 AM
-2

He said she didn’t want to be with one man, not that she doesn’t want a boyfriend. Can you read OK?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:30 AM
-3

You don’t want your boyfriend or husband to take you seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:44 PM
-5

Why should I take her seriously if her past behavior indicates otherwise though? In every other aspect of life we judge people for their past decisions and achievements but for some reason it’s taboo when it comes to women’s sexuality. It’s just weird
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:43 PM
7

Okay so she cheated on him multiple times and he’s still supposed to care about her precious beauty and youth? LMFAOOOOO women are too much man
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:39 PM
5

She also had agency to walk away at any point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:59 PM
6

If she can’t agree to those very reasonable terms for a man then why should he care about her youth and beauty? He doesn’t owe her fast commitment especially when she can’t be reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:24 PM
0

You can still receive that through legal means even if you aren’t married.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:21 PM
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The whole thing just strikes me as the kind of mental activity you engage in when you’re largely out of real world things to fight for. You talk about how dangerous it is for women but women, especially gen z women, are the safest and most privileged group of women to ever walk the earth. They’re doing better than their male counterparts in every statistical category that matters and yet they seem to have an unmatched disdain for male existence. You’re simply out of real issues to litigate so yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:04 PM
14

I like how women tend to be better caregivers than men. They also tend to be better coordinators of activities, whether that be study groups or a night out it’s usually my female friends that are the ones figuring things out beforehand and I appreciate that about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:00 PM
4

I’m fully red pilled and I work for a group of women that are some of the biggest feminists I’ve ever seen. You absolutely cannot tell lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:51 PM
4

There comes a point where there are enough women that believe these things that approaching any given woman becomes not worth it. It’s a mental calculation you subconsciously make to prevent yourself from being humiliated or wasting your time. Quit playing these games.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:38 PM
1

Social clubs, many places in the gaming space, clubs like the Boy Scouts, plenty of stuff. There used to be plenty of male spaces. Now there are almost none and people are wondering why men aren’t as socialized anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:18 AM
2

Men had plenty of all male spaces that were well populated. Women invaded them and changed them to fit their comforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:21 PM
1

It’s really not lil homie
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:59 PM
0

Because IG is the only form of social media that’s ever been invented I forgot
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:31 PM
1

That is equally as liked and used by men as it is by women. Video games on the other hand are still a predominantly male activity
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:20 PM
2

Okay so we’re going to ban things that men like and are predominantly male but not things women like to make them go outside more. Ya you lost me when you began implicitly insinuating that men are the problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:40 PM
3

Boys can’t pick when all of our boys groups have been invaded by women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:55 PM
1

You’re talking about schooling. This is literally just an extracurricular group. One extracurricular group geared towards men is not going to make them socially inept with women. You are intentionally obfuscating the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:54 PM
4

Still doesn’t take away from his point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:52 PM
4

Because we are the ones that have to live as men. You can’t talk about men without invoking the individual as well. And even the men who wanted to care about that garbage were only met with nonsense. They were literally told to ‘just listen’ as if they weren’t already doing that or tell their friends ‘not to rape’ like men just go out and make friends with rapists. Like there’s literally no action you can take to mitigate this or absolve yourself that isn’t just a humiliation ritual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:39 AM
3

Hive mind is a group of people latching onto a dominant opinion that is helpful to them in some way and repeating that opinion nonstop without really understanding or thinking about the implications of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:35 AM
3

Usually I see women being a hive mind when they are collectively coming up with reasons to not empathize with men or to shame us in really weird ways. The whole bear thing was a really good example of this. It wasn’t about consideration for others when women were being a hive mind over man vs bear, they were just trying to shame men into doing some weird humiliation rituals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:58 PM
2

Reality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:01 AM
1

All of that is going to happen regardless of whether you’re dating or not. You’ve gotta stop with that ridiculous argument
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:14 AM
2

You just gave the game away. If she’s doing it for herself then why are men having to pay for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:05 AM
2

Slogans like that are how you get engagement bait posts like those.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:01 AM
2

I’m in law school. I can confirm that many of the women there are more interested in being in email day care than actually doing the job of a lawyer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:43 PM
2

Their data showed that women often make money for themselves. It did not show that they contribute equally in a financial sense to their relationships. Basic data interpretation should be a requirement to graduate high school I swear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:56 AM
5

She’s using her personal experience. I’m using mine. Hers is not any better than mine. That is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:19 AM
0

Okay so we’re back to the whole unemployed men not contributing to society, society collapses, women’s autonomy goes away. Back to square one I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:20 AM
7

I had a law professor come out and tell our class that one time. It’s rampant. I know plenty of couples like that. That’s just virtue signaling from women that want to fool men into getting into horrible relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:18 AM
13

The fact that your wife works doesn’t make the relationship not transactional. Plenty of women make the same or more money than men and still expect men to pay for things. Women may have broken free of gender roles, but you sure want us staying in ours.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:07 AM
-1

Okay. Let’s see how long your company last while you’re having meetings about having meetings
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:03 AM
23

Yeah because the relationships most men in the west are getting are totally not transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:41 AM
5

I personally don’t care about DEI all that much. But the fact that there are people whose entire job titles are bullshit like “diversity and inclusion coordinator” are not actually contributing anything worthwhile. And the people who want and like that shit are women. Because many women don’t want to work at real jobs, they want to go to email day care and feel like they did something instead of actually do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:39 AM
2

Go ahead and sue. Maybe have some meetings and training about it and then start an email chain too to make yourself feel better about all the nothing you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:36 AM
0

Men who get frustrated and occasionally take out their anger on an inanimate object are way more likely to actually get shit done than the average woman they’d be replaced with. The more you replace men like that with women that want to talk about diversity in the workplace and be in adult daycare the more you’re going to see companies fail. If you want to be in adult daycare you weren’t meant to be in the workforce and should be a housewife
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:57 PM
2

That will make them worse. Men and women are growing apart as we speak and that’s why this shit keeps happening
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:20 PM
7

Have you seen how many women are picking the bears? That blew up because there was a critical mass of women saying that. Probably the same mass that would use emotions and vulnerability as an abusive control tactic. We’ll stop generalizing women when you stop picking the bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:09 PM
12

I’d take working with men that occasionally get frustrated and punch holes in walls than email chains about nothing and meetings about meetings like you’re in an adult day care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:07 PM
0

There’s understanding the chance of being assaulted in general and then there’s thinking that the person in front of you right now is a violent criminal based on that chance. The former is a rational thought. The latter is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:34 PM
2

No it’s because we understand that the chances of being assaulted by a random guy we see on the street is so near 0 that it’s not worth worrying about. We are not irrational
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:14 PM
1

If you don’t see the clear relation you are just not a very intelligent person. That must suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:31 PM
-1

Yes. Based. Create more equity for men in the dating market then if you want us to only be chasing after women that are our type. Most of us are too busy trying to be good enough for anyone that we aren’t even thinking about what our type is. You really thought that was a gotcha huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:03 PM
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What’s written down is that the male experience is that we don’t even get to really have a type because dating is so unbalanced that we have to take what we can get. You’re intentionally going with the absolute worst interpretation of what I’m saying to victimize yourself in a situation where women hold the vast majority of the power. It’s not gonna work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:16 AM
9

I never said it was. Why are you making shit up?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:09 AM
5

Women should just inherently understand that and not get upset at men’s basic existence. I always find it funny when women get exposed to the male experience and start crying over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:12 AM
1

You’re right they aren’t. Because women are out of real things to complain about and so they need to make shit up to complain about. That’s the only real takeaway of any of this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:25 PM
2

The original question on TikTok was ‘if you had to survive in the woods, would you rather survive with a man or a bear?’. It’s not an overly literal interpretation. It’s the one that came with the original question. You’re turning it into some hypothetical that is a modified version because women have run out of real things to complain about and need to make up literal hypotheticals to piss off men with now. I’ve never seen a better reason to curb the autonomy of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:11 PM
1

The hypothetical literally insinuates that you will be spending an extended period of time with a dangerous animal. I grew up in Colorado, they weren’t exactly advertising for us to cuddle bears when we took field trips to the mountains.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:52 PM
3

Virtue signalers are gonna virtue signal 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:19 PM
33

So you swiped on the hot frat boys and now think all men are like that because the top 10% are. That’s craaaazy bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:42 PM
3

She’s getting a family and husband that provides for it. But she isn’t willing to properly support him. She’s winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:28 PM
3

Right. She’s winning in that scenario. He is not. And I love how you think that married men wanting their wives to actually want them is an unreasonable illogical expectation of sexual servitude. That is just insane
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:20 PM
6

Okay so they don’t use the apps for their intended purpose and then complain that they can’t find the man of their dreams. That’s still their fault
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:51 PM
2

You think that men that are into sex can get it as simply as women can which is a verifiably insane take. Their wants and needs are literally just to want their partner to want them and act supportive which many women won’t do because you’re too busy competing with us and being girlbosses. Your problem is that you assume that men who haven’t had good dating experiences haven’t had them because they didn’t want to have them. That’s actually crazy given that I’ve seen you spend this much time on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:27 PM
3

But you do. That’s why there is a dead bedroom. You’re not getting your first round pick despite not being one yourself and so you don’t try at all. That’s why most dead bedrooms happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:21 PM
2

Those men are into sex. You’re just telling them that their wants and needs simply don’t matter. That’s a misandrist worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:16 PM
-2

It isn’t a threat. It’s a realization.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:12 PM
-2

Comments like this make me understand why we subjugated women for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:23 PM
1

No. Divorce and peace are the best option. What a misandrist worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:22 PM
4

And you shoulda gotten a first round pick to commit to you then. You don’t get to give us nothing and expect the world. You clearly weren’t a first round pick either if you’re single at 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:22 PM
3

If you look at the statistics you also are just as likely to get divorced if you get married at 35 as at 20. You have time, but there is definitely a point where you are just clearly settling for the first guy you meet with a decent job and a working dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:17 PM
0

None of that is empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:36 PM
1

But you didn’t empathize. You just said that you could without actually demonstrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:55 PM
2

Except you don’t understand. You immediately launched into a tirade against men in a thread about having empathy. You don’t understand shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:17 AM
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Self reported study. Completely garbage. Moving on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:21 PM
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Women generally yes. You act like women don’t regularly scam and degrade men both irl and on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:17 PM
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Ya definitely completely devoid of empathy. The very thing blue pill women on this sub tell men to have for women. The irony
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:16 PM
5

She couldn’t even make it through one Reddit comment without overplaying her hand lolololol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:33 AM
3

I mean there are women who aren’t mothers who weaponize motherhood against men all the time. Men just do it back when it comes to working the hard jobs. Sure I might never work on an oil rig but you don’t get to tell me about how hard being a mom is when you’re getting your tubes tied. You’re just doing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:29 AM
1

You already do that wtf are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:24 AM
5

You spent more words berating than empathizing here. I’m gonna press X to doubt that you have any empathy at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:21 AM
1

Men’s attributes are almost entirely defined by what women like about men. It’s why I have no sympathy for the woman that ends up with an abusive chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 04:43 PM
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Reported for personal attack
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 04:33 PM
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I’d love to know what you define misogyny as because I’m guessing the bar is not very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 04:21 PM
0

And anti depressants
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:06 AM
1

You say this and then try to be ‘compatible’ with the 6’6 guy that can’t do his own laundry and runs crypto scams. Drop the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:21 PM
8

I see comments like this and think to myself “you know, maybe we should revisit that 19th amendment”. Women will really say shit like this and then wonder why the only men they end up with are assholes and abusers. You deserve your lot if that’s your line of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:15 PM
1

That doesn’t mean I need to answer every ridiculous question. Jesus that’s dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:14 PM
1

Ya and who are they getting married to? I bet you didn’t catch that in the statistics. I’ll enlighten you. It’s other educated men. Men are far more likely to date down in education and income level. Women are not. So your anecdote isn’t reflective of reality. Mine is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:13 PM
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Except I’ve been temp banned over literally nothing and I’ve seen women make the most vile insinuations about me and not receive anything. It’s gross
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:10 PM
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You aren’t more comfortable being alone if you have to sedate yourself with anti depressants constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:07 PM
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This sub will not be a true debate sub until the mods are replaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:09 PM
0

I was merely explaining why they had success. That question wasn’t even directed at me. Buzz off
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:06 PM
0

It isn’t a projection. As someone who’s stayed on a college campus into his mid 20s for law school I can tell you that the way educated women talk about men who aren’t as educated is insane. I even dated a girl like that for a while. You can’t try to out compete men in every aspect of life and then expect that men will want to be with you. We want a partner not a competitor. We have enough of those already.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:04 PM
-2

That’s because they’re under the magical impression that Prince Charming is just going to show up in their lives one day. Give it 30 years. Women will have the same loneliness crisis as men right now, except it will be entirely their fault
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 12:59 PM
-3

I’m not sure the social system women are attempting to create addresses that problem at all. You want to dominate men in every metric that matters and are now complaining that you’re winning too much. Like when I’d recruit my brother to play smash bros just to use him as a punching bag until he’d had enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 02:00 AM
3

They can. But that’s increasingly not the case. Courts don’t let divorced women live on their husbands money while they do most of the child rearing as much anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:47 AM
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The men who are trying to are called incels and misogynists and are marginalized. So no it’s not something only we should have to fix. Every advancement women have gotten was because they convinced men that it should happen. You need to do the same now that the shoe is on the other foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:43 AM
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The difference is that at the end of the day those types of men are largely staying away from women irl because they have a defeatist attitude, while women who use FDS and 2XC are trying to turn their thoughts into policy that will actively criminalize men and male sexuality and in some cases they are already succeeding. Women, especially young women, love to rub it in the face of men how much better they are doing than us in general. They see the lack of education for men and the male lonelines…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:41 AM
0

That’s what I meant. You can’t argue that women are worse off financially while also arguing that men don’t want to fill out the paperwork out of fear of how much money their wife will take. You gotta pick a lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:33 AM
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And those women aren’t shouted down and called incels the way that men are. And that’s an increasingly large social problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:32 AM
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