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CMVevanstown21/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 02:47 PM
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Kinda getting bored. It was once exciting to see people enraged and living in some weird personal delusion but I think I’m all purple pilled out. Peace! See ya in idk 3-6 months when I’m bored again
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:44 PM
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He called and asked if I was free that coming Friday night, said we’d go somewhere nicer and that he’d come to my place first to pick me up. We both dressed up and when he came up, I was still putting my earrings on. He told me I looked beautiful in that real genuine way and he looked so good, I almost wished we weren’t going out at all. The smell of his cologne around his neck alone would get me going. It was cold out so he gave me his gloves. We arrived at this pop up art show and wandered aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:27 PM
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Exactly. Changing what you wear to the gym isn’t gonna make a huge difference because guys who want to harass you or be gross will do so regardless of what you’re wearing. The guys do it because they can and because they want to. The best thing you can do is ask them to stop and then maybe bring a friend for back up
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:40 AM
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Yes. Probably. But if you can’t provide a healthy relationship/don’t want to, don’t step into that role. It would only serve to confuse him
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:19 AM
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Don’t feel bad if he knows that he’s just a FWB. He shouldn’t be seeking emotional validation from you and you shouldn’t be providing it. Plus, the bigger of a deal you make it, the more it’s gonna make him self conscious anyway. If it’s about his health, show concern as a friend and ask if there’s something going on…but don’t make it about his dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:12 AM
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I don’t think it would be appropriate for a 15 year old child to post body workout videos or fitness goal photos in general because they’re still developing. They shouldn’t be aspiring to have a build like an adult or encouraging adults/other children to look ripped like them. It’s eerie to me. I think kids should be kids. So yeah, it’s not just the sexual part. I’d have an equally bad taste in my mouth hearing about a 15 year old and his protein shake diet and his goal to cut 10 pounds even if …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:10 AM
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It’s hot to me, but I’m a mature adult who understands that me thirsting over his cute butt is an issue with me, not him. He wears shorts that fit well and I think his backside looks great in them…but that’s an issue with me and I don’t gawk at him because I find it distasteful. There are gay guys at our gym that make eye contact and pick each other up. I’ve seen one guy lick his lips suggestively. If you were the target of that come on, would you feel comfortable? Would your solution be to wear…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:02 AM
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I do. I watch my guy do deadlifts at the gym. And yeah, consequently, he has a great butt. It’s not sexual to other guys at the gym when he does this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:55 AM
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Depends on the context and the type of pose/angle. It should not be gratuitous or aimed at grown men. If it’s a photo of her from behind just standing or if it’s like a picture of an athlete in motion, it makes a lot of sense. These types of photos are different- a 15 year old should not be marketing fitness and no one should be aspiring to look like a 15 year old’s body.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:48 AM
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I’m not saying he can’t. No one is gonna come arrest him. Im just saying it’s not crazy for her to feel uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:43 AM
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It’s not her fault that you sexualize her butt. I need to see her butt if she’s showing me butt workouts. If she were doing arm workouts, I’d wanna see her arms! If she’s targeting abs, I wanna see those abs! This seems to be more about you being horny than anything else. You’d probably go see a painting of Venus and think it was straight pornography.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:43 AM
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It’s weird because I don’t even think these Instagram photos are her sexualizing herself. As a woman, I would follow this woman for her booty workouts or whatever. I don’t find it to be sexual or sensual. It’s not pornography
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:35 AM
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The Instagram posts make sense If her followers are women and she’s selling fitness/leggings as a business. Either way, it’s weird to have people in person follow you around or dress you down with their eyes (this is different than just looking). You can block people online and delete gross messages, you could even make your Instagram private. The audience is different and the level of control she has is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:33 AM
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One inch taller than me is fine if he’s still hot. 10 years older is pushing it but could be fine if he’s normal and well adjusted and has hit all the proper milestones. The problem with 10 years older is that if he’s aiming for 10 years younger (me), he usually comes with a lot of baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:27 AM
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Marriage is also tough because of other cultural reasons. The work hours are super long meaning theres not a lot of time to date or meet people, wages have been stagnant, there’s an expectation to live in and care for your in laws, if you get married as a woman the expectation is that you will have children and so they pay you less and promote you less, Japanese neighborhoods also hate children as the noise is considered a nuisance so now there’s an incentive to remain childless. Then of course,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:21 AM
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Meh. To each their own I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:15 AM
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These days you probably want two incomes. Not having two incomes in this day and age is stupid from a financial standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:12 AM
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You should have some friends watch you when you chat with women and see if you come across awkward or saying the wrong thing. It’s really hard to see what can be improved without seeing someone interact in person. I’ve seen guys that are perfectly normal with me say the dumbest stuff or get really stiff when trying to pick up women at a bar
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:11 AM
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What if I have a better, more famous last name? If I’m more professionally public facing, it kind of makes sense for us to keep separate last names. For example, my boyfriend and I have both been published. I’d want to keep our last names separate probably just for professional purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:07 AM
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Whenever I feel like it? Sometimes I surprise him with tickets to something or a little gift here and there because I just thought of him or dinner or concerts. Honestly, whenever I see something and think, man, my guy would love that! It’s not something where you keep score. We both just bring 100% of ourselves to the table as much as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:57 AM
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No. He’s a gentleman and he loves me. I still remember he insisted on paying for all our first couple dates despite me offering to get dessert, coffee or the tip at least. He wanted to impress. I’m sorry that you’ve never experienced love where you want to give your partner the best and treat them. I still remember how he said he’d do almost anything just to see me smile. And you know what, I try my best to make him smile every morning by making him coffee and starting our day with a kiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:52 AM
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Guys move mountains for women that they love. My favorite thing is to ask guys, not girls, about the proposal story. They look so proud and will brag about the set up, the planning, the ring, how clever it was, how it moved his fiancé to tears of joy, etc. This is even true for guys in high school who will do a “promposal.” I would have gone with my then high school boyfriend regardless…it was at his insistence that a big show was put on. I still remember him insisting that he wanted to create a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:34 PM
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Why? My boyfriend likes paying for nice dates. Who am I to stop him? It makes him feel good to take me out and I get all dressed up for the occasion. He’s never complained once. In fact, he says thank you at the end of the night. No one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to pay for dates. You’re welcome to go find a girl that just wants to go 50/50 to the cent on everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:29 PM
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Guys do it because they want to show the girl that they are committed and they want to see her smile. If you don’t wanna do it, don’t do it. Get with a girl that doesn’t care about diamonds. No one is forcing you to follow in their footsteps. This is just about having different values. I’m sure there’s a girl out there that would rather just see a smaller ring and $15k put towards a down payment for a house or idk, towards the wedding itself
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:26 PM
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Good for you. The point I’m trying to make is that you can be busy and still have a great body. I’m not saying these guys are modeling full time, but they look good. One of my friends works for JPM and also is a personal trainer in his free time. My boyfriend works like 80 hours and still finds time to work out every day and looks great. The people who prioritize fitness and diet (diet is also key!) look great despite being busy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:07 PM
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Even if you’ve got an ugly face, at least you’re not a guy with an ugly face and ugly body. Having a great body also means you can perhaps put less effort into dressings since you can wear tight clothes and still look good rather than looking like a sausage. Plus, you’d want to work out regularly for your own health as well. I’d say the max is like 10% body fat, losing more than that starts looking kind of too much and would likely strain the body. I personally think around 15% is ideal but most…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:03 PM
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I really think men at around 15% body fat is my ideal. Whatever you linked to is a bit too much
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:19 PM
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All I’m hearing is that you’re bad at time management. I know IB dudes that still have time to work out, doctors that work out, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:43 AM
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Reread Guns, Germs and Steel
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:50 AM
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Romantic gay porn or gay guys going solo or reading erotica. Straight porn all too often looks abusive, painful, fake or borderline illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:46 AM
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Nope. Woman
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:34 AM
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Oh 100% but that’s a social issue or being ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:20 PM
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Jude Law vibes!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:50 PM
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I mean, if you can get off without porn, then you’re not a porn addict. If you girl is bad at sex maybe you should just dump her? No one is forcing you to suffer through that. Or if you think you can change her, coach her on what you like. You’re only a porn addict if you can only get off to porn and can’t use your imagination or can’t get off with sex or your nerves are shot from going at it too hard. (And yes, women can be vibrator addicts as well if they go at it too hard)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:42 PM
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If they’re hot, they’re hot and are just hooking up. If they’re in relationships, they’re usually with an equally cute girl. That’s what happens when you’re in a big city. Ugly guys with no social skills will be just that, regardless of ethnicity
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:40 PM
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Who wants to have sex with a guy that they don’t like??? And you think if she just dated and had sex with a guy she was lukewarm about, she’d be in a better place? No. She’s leave thinking sex is horrible and boring and that dating guys suck. She’ll complain and whine that her first time was awful. I’ve never seen a “player type.” I’ve only seen girls that didn’t enforce boundaries and didn’t make sure he wanted the same things. Guys can just have sex with girls that want to have sex. Make sure …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:38 PM
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It’s almost like men should raise their standards and ask for more…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:34 PM
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Depends on the region. I’ve seen a ton of Asian and Indian chads around nyc or California
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:33 PM
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High count men and high count women will get together. Trust me, nobody is trying to really hide anything
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:32 PM
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…it’s like you’ve never been in high school. Is your perception of high school based on an 80s movie? Usually it’s nerds dating nerds and burnouts dating burnouts and they have sex in a long term relationship. I don’t ever recall the football guys having groupies or anything like that. My friends and I all had sex with a long term boyfriend and then we mutually broke up when we went off to college. The end. I don’t think people are as dysfunctional as you described. The kids that were virgins le…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:31 PM
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Fairly common. Sometimes you just want something consistent and you’re not interested in a relationship because after talking, you realize the guy is dumb as a pile of bricks. Would never take him home even if he’s a sweetheart. Sometimes you wanna finish and go to bed. But uh, I’m someone that can cum several times from PIV.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:16 PM
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Me too! Worth waiting for. But as long as I can finish, whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:15 PM
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Attached to a hot body and a witty mind and handsome face. Attached to a sexy voice and great dirty talk. Not too wide or long. Proportional. Uncircumcised. Can get hard easy and stay hard easy and doesn’t take more than 10 mins to finish. No blemishes or weird veins or bumps. Smooth, soft skin that is warm to touch. Even coloring and trimmed hedges.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:14 PM
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Never never. I’m not trying to get a disease or get pregnant. Sex without a condom is for after I’m married
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:10 PM
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As someone from Texas, it’s because southern girls are more desperate and the concept of an MRS degreee still exists
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:07 PM
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Will be resetting my n-count to zero. Guess I’m a virgin now, peace
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:05 PM
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That’s just you who has low standards. Trust me, his friend group is not gonna accept you if you turn up and say “oh yeah, I’m homeless and have no career or personal goals, but I’m agreeable and cute.” There will be judgement from his family, friends and colleagues and yes, that’s gonna matter a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:57 PM
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It’s not about the money. It’s about being respectable enough to be considered serious
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:29 AM
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I don’t really think about “slutty” women. If you’re having a good time and are genuinely happy, you do you! I only take issue with it, when I see it’s hurting them. Similar to someone who has a good time and enjoys a drink or two vs someone who hurts themselves with alcohol as an alcoholic. As for myself? These labels mean nothing. Men will throw around the word “slutty” to mean anything. It can be based on what you wear, whether they like you, because you rejected them, or because they just wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:05 AM
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Actually, I think there are two peaks for women. Guys are often down to have sex with a sexy 18-23 year old but don’t consider them mature enough for a real relationship if they’re a few years older. 24-30 is when women are seen as “wife” material. Why? Because that’s when she has enough money and a career to be perceived as not at risk to be a party girl, not at risk to be a gold digger, and not at risk to suddenly decide that she needs to ‘chase her dreams alone.’ That’s why you see women get …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:01 AM
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I Love You So- The Walters
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:13 PM
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I disagree. I think hypergamy implies that it’s attraction on the individual level. I believe assortative mating has more to do with family-level dynamics and values that aligns
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:07 PM
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Would you say that this is more likely than hypergamy as a theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:53 PM
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My bad. It wasn’t with malice. I was just trying to be nice
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:44 PM
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Sorry, I should have specified. This is not for sex partners. I was asking in the context of serious long term relationships and marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:33 PM
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Journalism is a tough gig. I’m just gonna give you an internet hug and let you go. We need journos though, so keep your head up kid
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:33 PM
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Maybe status isn’t the right word but how about lifestyle or blue collar vs grey collar vs white collar work. Work many in society considers valuable and noble but doesn’t pay well like nonprofit work vs work that pays well but doesn’t tend to get a lot of admiration like truck driving.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:14 PM
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Depends on the publication and your area of coverage I suppose but I think there’s still that “sexy” factor given how many journalist characters we see on tv and in the movies. Even if it’s not true to life
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:12 PM
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But it’s a high status exciting job that gets a lot of respect depending on the publication? Like WSJ may only pay you like $90k but you’ll see these guys and gals sometimes marry finance gals and guys making a few million.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:05 PM
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How much does salary vs status matter to men and women? Based on just what I’ve personally seen, I think perhaps salary doesn’t matter to a guy or girl but status definitely does. Like a guy wouldn’t mind marrying a girl in nonprofit work even if her salary sucks and I’ve seen women in high paying finance get together with startup boyfriends that have yet to turn a profit. I ask because I often see professionals pair up with other professionals even if the salary range varies by a lot. Think jou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:01 PM
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Have you considered that women don’t practice hyoergamy, but you’re observing decisions that families make? A woman could not own her own assets and have her own bank account fairly recently. Your grandmother likely had no money of her own. No father would let their daughter marry a poor guy because she also had no money. That’s a socioeconomic decision made by the family. And then there’s the concept of dowries. Men would try to marry rich girl families and appeal to them in some way because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:39 AM
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lol. Use this same logic to be like guys who made a girl official before any sexual contact once needs to do so for every girl ever. If Bob made Lindsey his girlfriend when he was 12 before they even held hands, he now has to make every girl he’s ever gone on a single date with his official girlfriend and must introduce her to his parents and marry her. Do you see how insane this line of logic is?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:30 AM
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This comment makes me think some people just can’t read a room or body language enough to know what “the right time” to progress looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:24 AM
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Don’t know what the acronym is about but being hot and nothing else only works when you’re young, for both men and women. You can make excuses or just say you’re a temporary free spirit or whatever. When you’re an adult with no accomplishments, it becomes pathetic because the world has moved on without you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:04 AM
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Cheating says more about the other person than me. If they’re a cheater, they were always going to cheat. It’s not about beauty, it’s about opportunity for cheaters. If they cheated with someone uglier than me, that’s because that was the option that presented itself. I don’t feel more angry; it just means they’re dead to me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:01 AM
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I like to think that you just haven’t met the right person. When you meet someone really special, I think you’d feel it. It’s exhilarating and terrifying and more intense than any crush I ever had and I felt like an absolute newbie.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 11:51 PM
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I’ve never seen a hobo sexual but I’ve definitely seen many, many “mommy mcbangmaids.” I knew one guy in college who only got assignments done and only got to class because his gf would wake him up in time. Another guy was so codependent, he needed his gf to sit in every class with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:31 PM
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I love cats. My partner used to have cats. They unfortunately passed away. My ex also had cats!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:22 PM
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Not common at all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:20 PM
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I’m not misinformed. Some of us just enjoy running. That’s like saying men are misinformed for not doing cardio. Cardio has its own benefits. I do body weight exercises too. I just don’t like going to the gym and using weights in a very male dominated place. It’s not my idea of fun. I think running in a group with other women or a mixed group of women and men is fun exercise. I think taking dance classes is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:19 PM
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I agree with that too. If they don’t wanna do it, they don’t wanna do it. But I kind of think that has more to do with lack of interest than lack of intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:12 PM
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It depends on whether your body can handle it. If you’re no longer menstruating, that’s a problem. Sometimes you might sacrifice a bit as an athlete for a short period of time, but it weakens your bones and is considered very dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:11 PM
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Okay. Well, I’ve got my options/principles and you’ve got yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:36 AM
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Most men are better than most women at STEM subjects. It’s true because men have overwhelmingly have had the most opportunities vs women to study and develop those skill sets . It’s misogynistic because I don’t believe men are inherently better at STEM, I just think we raise them while encouraging certain skill sets and so the women who are able to break into those STEM fields are actually also quite good and are not worse than most men already in the field. Does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:31 AM
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It doesn’t matter whether it’s majority or not. The fact that there are any non consensual moments or acts puts me off entirely. Would you feel better if someone served you some food and said “most of the ingredients are fresh but some of the ingredients, we pulled out of a dumpster infested with rats”?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:25 AM
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They likely said “eww” before learning he was a virgin. So unless you can separate the various qualities and control for virginity alone, I’m not sure this discussion is helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:23 AM
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You need to look at ads aimed at men. Women do a lot of shopping on behalf of men so they pick better looking men to appeal to that customer base. Check out commercials for beer or ads for beef jerky. Saw this ad…never seen so many plain middle aged guys in a commercial. You’d never have plain middle aged women like this in an ad because society (men and women) don’t like that. https://youtu.be/1V2FC5aomtY
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:15 AM
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Female athletes have 14-20% body fat and male athletes have around 6-13-%. So a guy with less than 20% body fat probably is more or less equivalent to a woman with a little over 20%. Women naturally carry more fat; it’s dangerous not to. I’ve lost my period before from exercising and dieting too hard and doctors will intervene sometimes if you’re a woman getting down to like 15% body fat. Expecting men and women to have the same body fat percentage is crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:06 AM
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It’s harder for women to develop muscle mass and especially have visible muscle. I’m not an athlete but I do some exercise- I run 3 miles every morning, I take some dance classes, I do calisthenics, and rock climb. But none of my muscles bulge out the way they do on a guy. I can do more crunches/sit ups than some guys I know but you would never know just looking at me. You’d probably think I just diet pretty well and fall into the “she’s just slim” category because you don’t see ripped muscles t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:02 AM
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It’s not the virginity itself putting people off. It’s why he/she is a virgin. If she’s a virgin because she has a huge face deformity and is missing several limbs, you might not be into her either. Most men don’t keep their virginity out of commitment to god. I know a few that do, and I would say they’re still quite attractive and have had no major problems with attracting women. They only have trouble keeping them because the values don’t often align. Men who are virgins not by choice but beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:54 AM
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The question is, when it comes to body standards, are men’s harder to meet? My answer is, it depends… general societal standards, not so much. Is it harder to obtain that physique, probably not more than women. To be a sex symbol on looks alone? Yes? Probably. But there’s something missing if you want to talk about standards for sexual attraction alone- women and men experience sexual attraction and arousal differently. So talking about physique alone in this way is utterly unhelpful
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:36 AM
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Yes. Actual attraction. Simply looking at a guy doesn’t spark any kind of desire in me, personally. I want to smell him. I want to flirtatiously make eye contact. I want to have things whispered in my ear or make light touches before I decide I’m into him enough to take him home.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:22 AM
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Because female attraction is different from male attraction. I can’t speak for all women but I don’t go out to ogle men. My friends and I get nothing from strip clubs. Just looking at men won’t turn me on. I need to have closer interaction- flirting, conversation, touching to even decide whether that desire is there. This is different from beauty standards. The OP’s point is on beauty standards imposed by society, not whether female desire and attraction operates differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:20 AM
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Different kind of attraction maybe. Or they express it differently. But yes, it’s probably an attraction that other men can better relate to
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:15 AM
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You know about the experiences you have had. Even if you could get 99 escorts to say everything is perfect as it could be, if there’s one who had a terrible experience, that’s not gonna make me wanna trust Johns. I’m glad things worked out for you though :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:01 AM
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The OP didn’t specify dating and whether a normal guy would date a normal woman. He/she gave examples from popular culture. If you want to talk about sex/dating specifically for normal people, you’re gonna have to engage me via an entirely new post
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:48 AM
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Okay, and unless I can go to every single escort and John to confirm everyone was happy with all that went down, I don’t have any reason to trust that a John didn’t harm an escort or give her a bad experience. I’m a woman and I know what men are like. Not all men are good. Not all consensual experiences are good. Can you imagine how many bad experiences there could be if there’s also money involved or not a lot of oversight and consequences? I know people in that line of field. I’ve heard and se…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:46 AM
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Lovely sentiment but I’m sure the PPD guys will come for you with their typical “the only thing women are good for is looks and youth”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:27 AM
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This is so dumb because you never added whether I like him. If I like the second guy as a person and find him attractive even if he’s not objectively attractive, I’d choose the second guy every single day for the rest of my life. When you’re in love, it doesn’t matter whether other people think your SO is attractive. Similarly, I don’t care how attractive the guy I’m hooking up with if I feel that we don’t have some kind of connection. Hooking up is just something I’ve done to quell horniness, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:23 AM
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Gotcha. My running groups have all mostly been women; might be a regional thing then
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:07 AM
1

Sure. But I disagree with other countries’ stances on buying/selling organs. I’m talking about my personal principles and why I wouldn’t ever respect or date a John.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:04 AM
4

Except there are studies on this…though I take psych studies with a grain of salt. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14574097/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:01 AM
25

I don’t know, if you join a running group, it’s mostly women. I think maybe we’re just drawn to different kinds of exercise. I don’t love weights but I run every single morning
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:32 PM
10

Bingo. I can’t speak for all women. But part of what excites me, is sexual tension. There’s no release (orgasm) if there’s no tension. There needs to be sexual tension, but good tension, for there to be excitement. That’s why pulling back for a second and not letting her have it right away can sometimes work wonders. That’s why a dangerous or thrilling activity (roller coasters, rock climbing, etc) is often recommended because that kind of experience creates tension and arousal that can sometime…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:14 PM
0

You’re telling me all escorts would sleep with all of their Johns for free? Yeah, I don’t think so. I don’t even go on all my business meetings for relationship development with full enthusiasm. You can’t tell me that there’s not a single John that hasn’t crossed the line. I don’t doubt that some escorts like their Johns; I doubt all escorts really enjoy all their Johns. And I’m against this on principle even if some may like some of the Johns and would sleep with them for free
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:06 PM
2

Okay. That’s your opinion and I respect your worldview for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:03 PM
3

I didn’t say the expectations were only driven by men. Of course, women also drive these expectations! The point I’m trying to make though is that we (men and women) want to see pretty, attractive women for even “the every man” role where that is not always the case for men. That being said, I think while the baseline to be seen as a normal woman is higher for women, being seen as truly sexy is harder for men. Does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 08:47 PM
4

Even lifetime and hallmark and 50 shades of grey will only cast pretty girls for the “nerdy girl who wins the hottie” role though. Dakota Johnson has done sexy covers even though she’s considered a plain Jane. Vanessa Hudgens played the every girl that wins the Prince in the princess switch. They casted Emma Stone in House Bunny. And you’re right, part of it is that much of media is still heavily skewed male in writers’ rooms so they tend to want to sell a male fantasy and want to cast pretty gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 08:42 PM
2

Im not saying you have to be a total hottie to be an actress. I’m saying that there are fewer roles for you, fewer opportunities for you if you are not attractive as a woman. There are few “funny, ugly girl” parts for women. It is only in recent years that we started to see more chubby looking women on screen, but that doesn’t mean they’re not expected to be attractive. They still come in with expensive looking haircuts and a ton of makeup and try to boost their look with the newest fashion piec…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 08:20 PM
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And it has been harder for those women. I’m not saying women can’t be seen as people if they’re not hotties, but it’s much harder for them to book gigs. The baseline to be seen as acceptable and human is higher for women even if the baseline for being a sex symbol is perhaps higher for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 08:06 PM
12

Tell me, who is the female equivalent of someone like Danny Devito or Michael Cera? Would you say Kristen Stewart, whos kind of a bombshell in Charlie’s Angels, is a Michael Cera type given that she was in a movie like Adventureland? Or played the awkward nerd who won the impossible hottie in Twilight? Do you think we expect “America’s favorite dads” to also grace magazine covers and talk about their diet/fashion the way we expect “America’s favorite moms?” Is there a female equivalent of an old…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:57 PM
6

I think it’s easier to be a man and meet the requirements to be seen as a human and get basic level respect and book gigs in acting, modeling, etc. With women, even if you’re playing a mom or grandmother in a movie or catalogue you gotta be some level of hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:45 PM
1

It’s because being an editor or a manager is a very different skill set than being a writer/reporter. If you’re a good reporter, you wont necessarily be good at managing people
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:38 PM
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Even if the escort is independent, how is it not a concern that the John doesn’t care that the other person isn’t genuinely attracted to him or genuinely want to be there? If I had to pay a guy to be in a romantic relationship with me and pretend to be my boyfriend, that should concern any future partners. That means I think relationships can be one sided and that it’s pleasurable knowing that the other person is faking. Relationships and sex is good because it’s mutual. It’s not a mutual experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:29 PM
0

I’m sorry, but how would you even get stats on that? Most work in the US is illegal. Do you think these people are gonna be willingly filling out surveys? Who has the time for that? Are you gonna be honest about whether everything you did was consensual if you’ve got a pimp or company or other girls ready to dump on you if you reveal it to be bad and traumatizing? Prostitution is not consensual and breeds coercive situations. This is the same reason why we don’t allow poor people to sell their k…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:24 PM
2

When I see an ugly guy with a fairly pretty girl, it kinda just makes me think she has weird taste or low self esteem. When I see a pretty guy with a normal looking girl, I wonder if they just met and fell in love when they were young. If he brought a plus one to a singles event, I’d assume they’re unicorn hunters or poly and just avoid like the plague. It doesn’t make me curious when he has another woman; it makes me want to be friendly (because I know it’s platonic) or it makes me want to avoi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:24 PM
1

This..sounds about right. Although I’d also add that the threshold is different for every woman and there is also a ceiling for some
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:36 AM
1

Okayyy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:33 AM
1

It might backfire if they think the girl is your girlfriend so just make sure everyone knows you’re there as friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:28 AM
7

Lmao. Another web dev that thinks way too highly of himself. Do you think doing web dev makes you smart? Doesn’t everyone appreciate music, art and philosophy to a certain extent? Calm down. What makes someone intelligent and interesting to talk to is open mindedness and a genuine desire to learn. If you cannot find something interesting about another person, the fault is with you for not asking the right questions and you must not be as interesting or intelligent as you think you are. The smart…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:20 AM
1

If you want “social proof,” which is I guess just an autistic way of saying that you look approachable and normal instead of creepy and desperate, it’s better to go as a group. Go with one girl and the assumption is that you are exclusive and that the girl will attack any other girl that might have been interested in approaching you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:14 AM
1

I want around normal height. 5’10. Not too short and not too tall. I think that’s the perfect height for me. One thing- mostly, I’m more interested in moderate traits. There is a point where the marginal benefit quickly decreases. Strong but not too muscular (15-20% body fat maybe?), tall but not over 6ft. I’m neutral on guys with a slight receding hairline…having a ton more hair than normal is not necessarily that much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:08 AM
2

Men totally approach. They just approach in specific ways at specific venues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:11 AM
1

Terrible at the moment. You’re good looking! Wear some cute clothes, go outside and get some candid shots in nicer lighting, smile a bit so that you come across more charming. More people will notice you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:08 AM
2

7 minutes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 10:33 PM
1

Abysmal lighting and just terrible poses. Smile, man. These look like mug shots- your expression says you hate life
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 10:31 PM
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Yeah, but it was a bonus, right? It wouldn’t be the only thing that made her hot. That’s the point I’m trying to make. OP is like upset girls aren’t tripping over themselves to sleep with him on his “intelligence” alone. You gotta have looks and intelligence. Having just intelligence isn’t enough
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:03 PM
3

Agreed! It’s like extra intellectual-type is the cherry on top. If my bf gets super passionate about a subject and we get into a heavy debate, it kinda turns me on haha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 05:19 PM
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Depends on how tall the girl is? I’d much rather date a soccer player than a basketball player for sure because I’m 5’5. I couldn’t even hold hands with a guy over 6’3.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 05:13 PM
5

I think it’s sexy when my boyfriend talks about physics too, but that probably wasn’t the only thing that drew me to him. It’s gotta be looks+intelligence+social cues. A 55 year old, out of shape dude talking about physics in a club probably wouldn’t do it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 05:11 PM
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I’d never date a John because there’s a good chance it wasn’t consensual. Girls in precarious situations might be forced to lie and they get good at pretending. You’re taking advantage of someone in a dangerous situation. If she wanted to be with you and it was consensual, you wouldn’t be paying her. Similarly, I would never be friends with a girl that saw a male prostitute. It’s gross because you could easily pressure the other person into doing something they don’t want to do. Sex needs enthus…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 05:09 PM
3

Not sure how I could “find out” unless he’s been pretending all this time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:29 PM
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Not that rare depending on the groups you hang out in. But also intelligent conversation runs the gambit so you might wanna join a club or cultivate a group that enjoys similar things that you do. My friends- a group of men and women- will talk about policy, law, literature, medicine, cinema, etc. but maybe not talk about specific books on Egypt even if we debate how various securities should be taxed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:20 PM
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Have you considered that you’re chasing all the wrong girls? My favorite is when guys go to a club to pick up girls and try to talk to her at a party venue about work or a book he read. That’s all fine and good, but you’re talking to the wrong girl at the wrong place about these topics. The other thing is, guys need to read social cues. You can’t just go off about random Egypt facts without any context at a party. That’s weird af. Do you immediately wanna sleep with a girl because she started on…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:22 PM
1

Lol. Okay, if women pursue AB, what the hell do men chase? Of course men also want a pretty face and good personality!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:15 PM
1

It’s not a variation of anything. It’s called dating and both genders do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:21 PM
0

That’s not AF/BB though. It’s literally just filtering? If you’re hooking up, you want someone hot and don’t screen further. If you want a long term relationship and a family, he has to be hot and suitable with a bunch of other qualities. Ugly with just dad qualities isn’t good for anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:12 AM
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No. At least, not for this particular woman. I have no desire to have kids. Therefore, I’m not looking for a good dad. In fact, I make sure every guy I date is very much okay with the decision to not have kids. I’m looking for a good life partner, not a dad. That being said, being a good dad and being a good human has many similar qualities so having good dad-like qualities often helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 05:20 AM
1

Successful Christmas! But we all ate too much/drank too much and promptly fell asleep
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 12:27 AM
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You can hook up and not get pumped and dumped? Who hooks up expecting a relationship anyway? If I’m hooking up, we both know it’s casual and I don’t really want him to spend the night. We know what’s going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 10:20 PM
2

It’s weird because my partners endlessly want to spend time with me even without any opportunity for sex. They just want to talk deep into the night or cuddle sometimes. If you hate spending time with your partner, you’re in a pretty bad relationship and should get out of it. It’s almost like my partner likes me…shocker
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 10:19 PM
0

With taller, faster, stronger, more showers, etc…it’s like men have never heard of diminishing returns. It’s more that most women want tall enough, not super tall. With protection, it’d be more for comfort or emergency not that you need to kill a guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 09:53 PM
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It’s true. My partner told me he wasn’t going to be seeing anyone else by the second date and was in a rush to make things official. Meanwhile guys that were lukewarm will drag things on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 09:46 PM
2

I’m gen z and trust me, guys get fat after high school. Frat guys with beer guts in college are very real
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 09:44 PM
3

Yeah, my breathing/tone/range is not that great but I can hear a song and pick out the notes and can sing in tune
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 02:36 AM
2

I’m not that great of a singer but I have perfect pitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 02:25 AM
3

Are you a woman? Has it happened a lot to you? How much is a lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 02:22 AM
1

What is raw denim?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 11:38 PM
4

I mean..yes. But I never think about this. It’s not really a worry. I’m more worried about how I’m doing at work or whether I have time to go exercise or how my friends and family are doing. The only time I think about this is honestly, when I’m on PPD. I don’t think people think about sex and relationships as much as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 11:38 PM
2

Are we pro or anti powdered sugar on chocolate cookies? Or should I do half and half?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:48 PM
10

That’s like not even the top 5 or top 10 of my worries. Is that a thing that happens sometimes? Yes. Does it suck? Yes. Does it constantly occupy my mind? Absolutely not. This is akin to always worrying throughout the relationship that it’s going to end or that you’re going to get dumped. It’s a possibility but not a major fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:44 PM
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Lmao. Are you f**ing serious? First off, being “pumped and dumped” isn’t even that common. There are so many other non sex non romantic problems people have. Go outside! Make friends! Sometimes it feels like I’m talking to aliens
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:31 PM
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This is not a surprise to anyone that has been in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:05 PM
1

Lol. I didn’t even do anything sexual with him for more than a month when we started dating. Just handholding and long conversations. He still says that I’m the most interesting person I know. We’d probably go rock climbing and go to museums and talk all night and try out new restaurants and share more experiences together…so Um, yeah…I wouldn’t do anything too different. We make out and do other things. As much as I love love sex with him, we mostly do other things anyway because I just can’t l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:03 PM
5

If she can’t provide for herself. She’s not worth marrying
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 07:31 PM
2

$200!? Guess you weren’t that invested. I’m paying more than $200 for something as simple as a pendant. I think if someone proposed with an engagement ring of just $200 I would be insulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 07:15 PM
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They’re common. Most people just don’t notice them because they’re adults and aren’t the target and young children often don’t realize what was going on until they were older
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 06:06 PM
45

11 even though I didn’t start puberty till 14. All attention from old men. Like 40+. Clearly pedos. I didn’t get attention from peers till like 13.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 02:54 PM
6

Men also have bpd. See a doctor to get assessed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 02:46 PM
3

Exactly 25 here. Honestly? Enjoy all the little things more. Life is not a sprint. It’s a marathon. You don’t get bonus points for doing things faster or even better than everyone else. Chase your own happiness at your own pace. At the end of the day, the only person who cares about your life is you and you will be the only one stuck with the choices you made. So don’t live for anyone else or compare yourself to the crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 02:41 PM
1

Interesting. Maybe some things like this are just tough to analyze because it’s not something you can really fully quantify hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 01:44 AM
1

I guess I would have to see it in person. When you describe her movements as jerky, it sounds awkward and spergy af
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 01:31 AM
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Yeah, that’s also what I’ve been taught/learned. That dropping hints is girl game that should be taught more often. In olden times, a girl taking the lead was her purposely dropping her handkerchief or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 01:27 AM
1

See, women still need game to a certain extent. Being pretty is good but being pretty+game is even better
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 01:25 AM
1

Oof. That’s rough for those guys. I guess part of what makes social interactions difficult sometimes is that you gotta be embedded in the culture to know what’s going on. You can definitely come on too strong or not enough depending on the culture of that location
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 01:24 AM
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Oh, what that girl was doing is weird. A girl still has to have social intelligence/girl game. People aren’t mind readers. You still gotta give off positive body language. If you’re unable to give off positive body language that signals that you’re open to being approached, don’t be surprised when shockingly, no one approaches you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 01:19 AM
1

Hmm I think part of what makes PPD so interesting is that I forget that the assumptions are always different. What’s blatant and easy to understand for one person is an absolute mystery to another. But I guess the point I’m trying to make is the women have their own way of dropping real blatant signals that is different from a guy. A guy might just straight up say the words “hey, can I get your number?” But a woman would do this weird roundabout thing that is comparatively subtle but still reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 12:55 AM
1

If you’re not confident enough to strike up a conversation in a way that’s not creepy, that’s a different problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 12:51 AM
1

It’s PPD! You think PPD guys can pick up on that or any kind of eye contact that is more than a little friendly? It’s subtle for people who don’t get out much, and more than enough for socially competent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 12:47 AM
2

Well, you gotta strike a balance. But if a guy needs blatant direction aka the girl saying “I want you to ask me out,” he’s probably not a good fit for me. When I mean subtle, I mean subtle for men but blatant to any woman watching. If she ends a conversation very slowly with “well, it’s getting late. I hope I get to see you again…” and wait a few seconds before moving to leave, that’s usually the cue for him to ask for her number. If he doesn’t ask for her number, I think it’s safe to assume th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 12:40 AM
2

That seems like just you though? Someone who can read body language isn’t necessarily a womanizer. One of the things I love about my long term relationship is that he can tell if I’m happy or upset and we can read each other without explicitly saying so. That’s part of chemistry and a relationship that’s important. If you look uncomfortable and are giving off negative body language and the guy can’t take a hint, that’s a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 12:00 AM
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Exactly! Women and men both want complexity. Complexity is what makes people interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:43 PM
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Kind of, yes, but this is purposeful and not a mistake. If I do show a little interest, it will be very subtle and I do want the guy to take over the reigns. If he is unable to read the signals, I weeded out someone that would need outright blatant direction for the rest of the relationship. I want a guy that takes initiative and can read my type of subtle communication. If he can’t take a hint, we’re not a good fit. And you might say “men aren’t mind readers,” but if other guys can pick up on i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:42 PM
2

So you think it’s completely appropriate for school teachers to make these comments to a student? It may not be illegal but it’s uncalled for. Being pretty has nothing to do with school. I actually scored quite well, praise related to performance would have been more appropriate. How many workplace evaluations also include a section related to whether your manager appreciates your appearances? It’s not professional behavior. A teacher is at work. One more thing, “early stages of babe-hood”!? Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 03:29 PM
2

Yep. After I graduated, I know of HS and college teachers getting arrested for CP and for peeking at girls
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:46 PM
1

I was like 13-16, I’m not sure any middle schooler or high school is “pretty” for adults. I’m in my 20s now and even the prettiest teen looks like a child. It’s not pretty the way adults are pretty. It’s weird for grown adult men to say these things
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:43 PM
1

I still don’t understand why Red Pill guys went with the matrix metaphor? Neo and Trinity have always been heads over heels for each other and loyal, right? Isn’t their relationship like the most blue pilled romance?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:31 PM
1

I’ve always had some weird interaction/comments from teachers and I’m Gen z. I’ve had teachers ask for my Instagram just as I was graduating high school, teachers say I was “exceptionally pretty” when I was in middle school (weird af), professors in college ask me out for coffee as soon as the course ended, and one that implied I would make a very good trophy wife if I ever wanted to settle down with him (wtf!?), and another that would touched my hair and said it was “very pretty”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:27 PM
2

I truly believe that most humans, regardless of gender/sex, are a little fluid. This is not a bad thing; I just don’t think the majority of people are 100% gay or 100% straight
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:24 PM
2

A Christmas Story, Love Actually and While You Were Sleeping
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 03:03 AM
4

Is sharing porn clips not some kind of homoerotic? And yeah, they apparently would watch it on a screen together but didnt touch themselves during it, as if that made it better? Still kinda gay. Dick measuring contest? Sounds pretty gay…how many straight women share porn clips and compare vulvas? Ball tapping? Dude, if a woman came up and “tapped” between my legs, she would have crossed a line. I’m not saying being gay is bad or that homoeroticism is bad. I’m just saying all these “straight” guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:55 AM
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They’re not. Not naturally anyway. It’s that as a woman, you tend to have higher costs. And historically, less education/less access.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:19 AM
1

You walk into a woman/man’s bedroom/library and see their bookshelf. What are green flag books? Red flag books?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 01:54 AM
2

25 F. BP/pink pill? Grew up UMC in a typical suburban single family home with other UMC families. I guess you could say my parents did everything “right.” They both have grad degrees, met each other in grad school and dated seriously then got engaged then married and then had two kids, all in order. My mom was a home maker and my father was the breadwinner. I wouldn’t say I had a perfect childhood, we bickered and fought etc, but I was comfortable and things were good. My parents are still marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 01:51 AM
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Plenty of men are sexually fluid. They just don’t think what they’re doing is homoerotic. The amount of guys that I know that have watched porn with each other is insane. You’re telling me thats not even a little bit gay? How many women watch porn with other women? How about frat initiation activities? Gay af. But these guys will swear up and down that their sexuality isn’t fluid and they’re super straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 01:43 AM
1

It’s more about whether you can give signals to encourage the right guys to approach you as opposed to accidentally giving off negative body language/energy. Then, can you carry a conversation to keep him interested and keep up interesting banter? Can you politely shut down an advance if you’re not interested (ideally not too explicitly)? Can you give off signals that you’re interested but not desperate and are looking for something more serious rather than a one night stand without explicitly s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 11:46 PM
3

I don’t see what’s wrong with this? Do you not see men read fiction? The amount of star wars, Harry Potter, lord of the rings, Dune, etc I’ve seen on men’s bookshelves man. Followed by other self help and business books..tell me, what do you think men and women ought to read? Text books?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 11:39 PM
3

Yeah so talking as an ENFP here, meeting people and getting into relationships tends to be pretty easy because me and other ENFPs tend to be quite bubbly, optimistic and socially active enough to make friends. I would say our problem is finding someone that we like back, because we tend to want someone that understands us deeply. I’m more frustrated with finding the right match vs finding people or attracting people. I find this to be true of men and women among my ENFP friends. Bonus: I’ve seen…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 11:37 PM
3

That when you love someone, even the hard stuff becomes easy. You trust each other and so getting lost isn’t frustrating or scary, you reframe it as an adventure. That kind of perspective is really nice
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 07:37 PM
1

That, no one will say no too! The point I was trying to make was that billions is not enough, you also have to be interesting. A man that’s the perfect fit that’s also wealthy; that’s what everyone wants, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:15 PM
2

I’ve never been super interested in being a billionaire. I just want to be comfortable financially and use that security to focus on other things. So marrying a boring billionaire over someone that is middle class/upper middle class that is interesting and shares my values doesn’t make sense to me. I’m dating/marrying for the right fit, not for an ATM.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:42 PM
3

A pretty bottle of perfume that has some sentimental significance
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:27 PM
1

You can be driven and not have it be focused on money. I have hobbies that I love and work on and a career too. But having more money won’t necessarily make me a better dancer or a better piano player or better at rock climbing. I like learning about things and reading books- being a billionaire or landing a billionaire husband doesn’t make you more knowledgeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:25 PM
1

I’m not sure that I really need or particularly want that. I have enough money to kind of travel here and there and that’s kind of good enough for me. Happiness from owning things like that is just so marginal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:23 PM
1

I mean. I have a job that I love and career ambitions. I just don’t need a lot more money than I already earn. Like what more could I want in my life? I have my health, people that love me, my dream job and a home. So my partner is there because I love them, for companionship, not for billions. If my partner can match me, we’re good!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:27 AM
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I mean, not billionaires but wealthier than me for sure. But also, I’m not someone that needs a lot more money. I have a job and can provide for myself. There’s not much more that I could want with money, really. Money really just makes a difference for people who don’t have any.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:05 AM
1

Yes. He wouldn’t fit into my life and would be super boring. Imagine just having an ATM and no personality. That’s not a life partner! If they take a boring man with just a lot of money and no hobbies or personality, it’s because they expect to cheat on him with someone more interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:02 AM
3

I’m a size 0 and they usually have my sizes. The problem is not sizing so much as that their quality has dropped off significantly and they’ve made a series of bad business decisions. Also the popularization of bralettes crippled them. Their inclusivity campaign is a last ditch save since Aerie and others capitalized on that much earlier and more successfully. VS had their downfall because they forgot that they should be marketing to women, not horny men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:55 AM
4

I think I also like a bit of teasing and banter but it’s certainly not one sided or mean spirited. It’s a give and take and it doesn’t poke fun at areas that really hurt. When people talk about negging, they seem to characterize it as mean and one sided…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 09:58 PM
3

Sooo neither gender particularly likes it but people do it anyway? Doesn’t make much sense to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 09:44 PM
1

Do men like it when women neg them? Like if they give it back, do you like that? Or does it put you off?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 09:07 PM
4

I’m confused. Women should never feel comfortable in small clothes as in they should feel actively uncomfortable? Or women should not feel pressured to wear small clothes as in, they should feel comfortable wearing what they like? Or are you asking why women might want to wear small clothes? Then, I have to ask “what is small clothes?” Small in size or small as in the clothes are sexy or skimpy? Either way, I will answer by saying that most days, to be a woman is to be uncomfortable. You can wea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 07:24 PM
1

Dating apps are bad for women and men because it’s often gamified and it incentivized people to stay on the app and pay. People have bad experiences because the app doesn’t want you to leave. The outcome is that men and women keep going on bad dates and coming back. The anonymity/ability to look in various locations also attracts the worst type of people aka cheaters. It makes it super easy for male and female cheaters to find prey and it incentivizes lying because there’s no social group accoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 07:14 PM
1

You would never invite your SO home for the holidays? Not even when engaged?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 04:49 PM
17

Ever seen the Princess Diaries? Grease? House Bunny? She’s All That? Women already know that you have to be pretty first to even get noticed, then you can think about personality. But the hotter you are, the more you can get away with. There’s always gonna be a shallow man that wants to be with a hot but bitchy woman. Game is different and super useful. A woman that is pretty but has no game will just be used. Game is to make sure the guys that are interested in you will come over, will stay int…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 04:46 PM
2

Makes sense. I’d actually say, that body odor can even make or break an interaction. No amount of hotness can overcome body odor if I hate the way a guy smells. Same thing with personality. I guess I wouldn’t sleep with a guy because of scent (it’s not a deal maker) but I’d certainly walk away if I didn’t like his natural scent, making this a huge deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 04:16 PM
11

Rich, white men with a great lineage. Those guys have the freedom to do whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 04:14 PM
3

More disagreeable, more mean spirited and more blunt here. I’m here to argue and get pissed up/upset and watch the drama unfold. In my day to day, I’m much sweeter, more feminine, not very confrontational and all bubbly and optimistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 04:12 PM
1

That’s really interesting. I’ve had some more casual encounters that allowed for meeting with family but I guess in my mind, inviting someone home for Christmas is the “this is really serious and we might get married” line. You think these are regional or cultural differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:54 PM
2

Basically the real point I think is that it’s important for you to be sure of what you want and what you don’t want. Don’t date just to date, but your bad dates and failed relationships should be seen as learning experiences and should help you better appreciate the person you really do fall in love with. This is true for men and women. I know that my partner appreciates me and cherishes me in part because he already knows what he does not want. Having some experience is important in giving you …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:30 PM
1

I think I’m usually not so worried about my SO judging my family as I am about my family judging and grilling my SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:26 PM
1

Does your family usually bring +1s to holiday events? I wonder how much of this is regional/cultural as I would wait at least a year or two before giving them a formal invitation for a proper holiday I think. Fancy birthday parties are more chill though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:24 PM
2

Awww that’s so cute!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:23 PM
1

Q4All- in line with the debate about how long it takes to be exclusive, how long do you wait before inviting your gf/bf home for Christmas with your family?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:12 PM
1

No. Assholes usually find people with low self esteem and/or other assholes. They do just fine because they’re magnetic to a certain subset of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:09 PM
7

Who wants to date someone with a bmi of 17????
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:04 PM
0

a lot in the sense that you went from obese (actively repulsive to some women) to normal (kinda blends in but doesn’t actively result in attraction). To inspire attraction, you’re gonna have to do more than just be passable though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:04 PM
2

Those of you that got married, how did you know that he/she was “the one”? Or did you just marry whoever would take you regardless of how you felt about them after some kind of calculation (as the internet might suggest)?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 02:53 AM
3

The movies took a lot of liberties and cut/added a lot of things relative to the original books. And that’s the thing that bothered you the most? I wouldn’t blame diversity initiatives for that. It simply made the character and plot more interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 02:20 AM
3

All the same responsibilities that you listed but also I would cry too. That sounds like a horrible experience over all. The fact that you don’t know how to touch a girl or don’t want to go down in a girl (what straight guy or lesbian doesn’t love going down on a gal!?) makes me think that you might just be not that good at sex or just not a good fit for that girl
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 12:21 AM
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No. It’s annoying and almost insulting because I’m not being seen as a person. When someone puts you on a pedestal, they are using you as a vessel to project all their desires onto you. They don’t care about your thoughts or desires or feelings. Watch 500 days of summer to see how this backfires.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:24 PM
1

Never. You can always tell if someone wants to be approached or not ahead of time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:13 PM
1

Dude. You’re 26, getting back into decent shape shouldn’t be that hard. Not ripped, just like slight better shape. Same thing with clothes. You’re still in your 20s! Look like it, and you’ll be fine. If you’re gonna lie about age, go all the way and say you’re 45 and on the brink of retirement and that you’re flush with cash or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:10 PM
1

Have you considered just getting a better body and achieving something instead of lying? Might be much easier to get laid that way. You’re lying to say 31, but the body and clothes and poses say “45+”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:04 PM
1

In no particular order: must be intellectually curious, empathetic, interested in helping the world in some way whether through career or philanthropy, a healthy communicator, kind, thoughtful, in my age range, passionate about his hobbies and career, must be good at planning and execution, healthy fitness/weight/diet/mentally, can adapt to change well, same height or taller but not taller than 6’2, professional career/education ambitions and demonstrates competence, calm under pressure, financi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 08:53 PM
1

What is it that she does? Is it the way she looks at you? And what does it mean to feel protective? To want to provide or give something or to fight someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 02:56 AM
1

You like giving as a service more than receiving as a service? And would prefer it if this was one sided? I see women who sometimes really enjoy this role. They love doting over their children or husband and don’t mind just taking care of everything on their behalf. Is it due to upbringing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 02:55 AM
1

That’s not surprising given how heterosexual women would take off a few years if they want to have a kid or stop earning money all together to be a full time home maker as they are able to depend on their heterosexual male spouse, which is the demographic that makes the most money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 02:53 AM
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In all seriousness, there’s a good chunk of men who don’t know what counts as rape. Some believe that it’s only rape if you pin down a stranger and it’s violent. Others think it’s alright to do whatever as long as you’re married. A few operate on a ‘don’t ask for permission, ask for forgiveness’ basis with women. And I think depending on the group, the line on using substances to try and change someone’s mind can get pretty blurry. So many times, boys will do something and not even identify it a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 02:49 AM
3

Some women/men really enjoy taking care of their partners. Like providing and protecting for them and not just in an equal/egalitarian way. That’s the role they want to perform. Where do you think that desire comes from? What triggers it? Is it more common in men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 02:18 AM
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Have you considered that income/poverty level is a pretty big contributing factor to weight/obesity? And, studies would show you that gay men tend to make more money than straight women and gay women tend to make less money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 02:13 AM
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Yes. And yes, always a little bit but this was someone I’ve known before hand. Still, you never know. It’s not more unsafe than sex. In fact it’s probably safer because the chance of pregnancy is much lower. I more commonly start with instances of non PIV stuff anyway, even with serious relationships. I like to work up to it until I’m comfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 02:11 AM
1

I don’t even know what this means
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 01:22 AM
3

What are the opinions that trigger you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 01:20 AM
3

Liver. Liver failure is a painful way to go and it’s easier to damage your liver than you’d think
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 10:25 PM
11

Why would he feel sorry? Isn’t this a good thing? Guys used to complain endlessly about how girls are clingy and get attached too easy. Now we’ve gone great lengths to not get attached and not appear clingy and people hate it? People complained about the way women dressed in public, so young women started staying in more and finding groups on social media as to not offend neighborhood families and old folks, etc. Is this not what men wanted? In all honestly, I imagine dating has only gotten bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 10:21 PM
5

Same thing. Desperation. Desperate for companionship, for an opportunity to have children, to conform to societal norms, etc. The women didn’t choose bad sex over good sex or assholes over dream husbands, they settled for bad sex or assholes because they couldn’t bear to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:34 PM
2

We’re just gonna have to agree to disagree man. Different life philosophies I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:22 PM
1

It’s not love if it’s one sided. Who wants to get love from someone you don’t care about? Match their energy and you’ll never have this problem. If you take a vegetarian to a nice steakhouse, they won’t appreciate it because you’re giving something really great to the wrong audience. It’s not anyone’s fault. It’s just that the vegetarian and the steakhouse are a bad match.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:21 PM
2

He’s super cute but has terrible style in terms of hair and facial hair, which works against him. Pick a more flattering hair cut, get rid of the weird mustache and move to a place where you can play to your strengths aka a diverse metro area. The man would have plenty of options
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:17 PM
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Desperate people stay in bad situations. That’s why it’s important to have standards for yourself. You deserve to both have a good time. It’s insulting to the guy if you’re pretending and it’s insulting to yourself to have to suffer through that nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:14 PM
3

As you get older, people show affection in different ways. Perhaps he was once young and posted a lot on social media with cheesy captions, I personally would find that cringey now and so would he. When I was younger, my high school boyfriend and I wrote songs for each other. They were absolutely terrible and cringey and I would never do that now. My partner shows love to me in ways that I uniquely appreciate like making me that first cup of coffee in the morning, leaving me little notes on my k…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:12 PM
5

I’ve never heard this assumption in my life. It depends on what you consider a Chad, but I can’t imagine ever staying with a guy that doesn’t let you finish. If I get any indication that the sex won’t be satisfying I have a rule to stop it there and leave. If you had a bad time, why would you keep going or come back?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:04 PM
1

What pub? Call em out!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 02:25 PM
2

You must have a really lovely voice! Lucky guy 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 01:27 AM
5

Actually, phone calls make a huge difference. I’m still struck by just how good my partner’s voice sounds on the phone. If I want to talk about something meaningful I still ask my friends/my partner to call me. Texting feels too impersonal and things like humor, references, etc don’t translate as well
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 01:11 AM
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Couldn’t care less. I’m obviously in the relationship because I like how things are going. If I wanted a guy that paid my rent and bought me expensive gifts everyday and took me on vacations, I should have been looking to date that guy. I didn’t settle for my boyfriend. Out of all the people in the world, I chose him for him and how he has treated me thus far. If I wanted songs and poems and expensive diamonds and vacations, I would have already expressed that interest. I won’t say no if he want…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 10:10 PM
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I also think many women assume this is how it’s supposed to be and don’t realize that they’re supposed to have a good time. Man, more women should just get up and leave if they’re having a bad time instead of just taking it and thinking that “sex is for the man” or that they need to do it for relationship maintenance. I’ve never had bad sex because I got lucky and had a good first experience with someone I cared about. If I don’t like what’s going on, I know to get up and leave. But if your firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:18 PM
3

I think these are things that happen to women who don’t have strong boundaries and cant get themselves to cut men off. It’s not unique to FDS. If you have low self esteem and act like a doormat, you end up allowing bad people to stick around and hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:19 PM
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It makes me think that my boyfriend is planning a surprise and wants to show me off or something. Sometimes he’ll say something like “wear that black dress you look really good in and meet me at that place at 8” and he’ll surprise me with tickets to a show or dinner at a place I’ve been wanting to try. It shows that he’s thoughtful and taking initiative but also that he pays attention to what I wear
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 01:59 PM
1

Definitely! Bigger pool means there’s an opportunity to find more people like yourself that can be a good match.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:31 AM
3

ADHD is incredibly common. Like, so common. Many of my friends have ADHD and are dating just fine. You just have to find someone that finds your quirks endearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:27 AM
2

I have! Bitter people are gonna be bitter is what I’m trying to say
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:07 AM
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I feel like this is lose lose situation for women. Get a degree that many men also pick and you get told that “degrees don’t matter” and that you’re trying too hard to be a man. Pick a discipline that has since become popular among women and they’ll tell you “what a useless degree!”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 02:50 AM
2

Economics and finance
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 02:35 AM
5

Yes. I have friends that did beauty pageants and some of them have appeared in Italian vogue and they all try in various ways. There’s no such thing as “naturally attractive” to begin with, you still have to exercise and eat right and take care of your skin and have a sense of style and hold yourself a certain way etc. More importantly, the prettier you are the more important it is that you have boundaries because people always want more from you. They want to use your status, use you for arm ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 02:01 AM
3

What makes a guy want to simp for one girl but not another? It’s not purely looks, I know that for sure. So in addition to looks, is it that you think she’s attainable? Is it that she makes you feel special or seen in some way? Is it that you feel that this is the only way to get someone to like you? Or are simps just people who simp for everyone because they’re people pleasers with no self esteem?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:26 PM
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I think for those that did get frustrated, it wasn’t a one night thing. It was more that they hooked up with a mutual friend several times and then realized that for him, it was casual and for her, she felt an emotional connection. But if you go into it with clear boundaries and expectations, that shouldn’t really happen. For men and women, the problem was that the start was ambiguous or that they changed their mind about what they really wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:09 PM
1

Don’t know. That’s never happened to me. I’m not sure it’s as common as people think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:04 PM
1

Good! It’s also a plus because If you’re proportional there, clothes just look better on you. Guys who wear slacks and have a saggy butt need to get it tailored or something or else it looks weird
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 07:45 PM
4

It’s the cherry on top. It’s not more important than a good chest and decent arms or abs/flat stomach, but it makes a guy look great in pants and even better naked. My SO has the nicest backside and I suddenly understand why guys like butts. I want him even when he’s facing away from me. And it’s extra nice to look at when he’s cooking or doing the dishes, because I have a sudden urge to put my hand there and distract him from whatever task is at hand. One more thing- you can’t have all butt and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 07:31 PM
1

5 years up and 5 years down. I’m in my 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 06:37 PM
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Nope. If I have to compete, that means he’s the type of guy that’ll never be satisfied and I’ll have to play that stupid game for the rest of my life. You either want me or move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 06:36 PM
2

I mean, if the age gap is only 2 years, yes? When people talk about grooming the age gap is much larger.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 06:28 PM
1

I like both. For long term relationships, I seek a more mature equal where we can seek advice from each other. These guys are my age or older but I still hold the same minimum attractiveness threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:46 PM
5

The solution is to never spend time with people you don’t enjoy. I’ve never had to drop my standards for dating either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 03:28 PM
5

…did you expect us to want young guys that are awkward and ugly? Does anyone want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 03:02 PM
4

Do y’all want us to be honest or not? There’s no hypocrisy here. I’m not taking advantage of anyone. I don’t pressure them into doing anything. I’m not grooming them. They feel lucky to be with me and are having a good time. They’re also all within half my age +7 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 03:02 PM
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Love younger men for casual stuff. For the record, I’m early/mid 20s, so not too young. Definitely over 18. But young, in-shape, naive, hot college himbos that look lost? I’m super into that. I like asking about their aspirations and I find their problems and anxieties very cute since I’m no longer in school. I like when they’re receptive to learning
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 06:20 AM
1

Yes. But know that what makes me interested/attracted to a man at first meeting is not the same thing that turns me on and makes me want to take him home with me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 06:10 AM
1

Easy to read for most part. The lack of forethought is what perplexes me the most. But that goes hand in hand with immaturity. Mature men take planned action
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:32 PM
1

Yeah. That’s why people should call out companies that take short cuts like that. Push them to actually change things and make an effort to find top talent that also happen to be diverse. They exist. They just don’t wanna work for those firms that are just looking to CYA
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:30 PM
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In that case, you can try and bring a suit depending on where you are. But hiring practices tend to be vague. I’ve seen people get hired just because they “got along better” or because their dad knew someone at the firm or because they just caught the hiring manager on a better day. Evaluating talent in general needs an overhaul at most companies. But like I said, this isn’t a problem with companies wanting diversity. Whatever problem you may be having is due to the firm either being bad at eval…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:08 PM
1

A good hiring practice is to gather a large and diverse pool of candidates but then also have a diverse panel of people making the hiring decisions and doing the interview/evaluation. Having all men or all women or all one race/ethnicity, etc is a really good way to accidentally weed out good candidates due to group bias. They should have also included a man on the panel if they wanted to fairly evaluate you. But second, a referral doesn’t really mean anything. I’ve referred people before but a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:57 PM
3

I think there are also guys on PPD and real life that believe women and minorities just “naturally” are incapable of working in certain fields. These are the same people that believe women are just large children and that the government (?) Or some kind of unseen entity (woke police I guess?) is forcing diversity upon them. But it’s not that women and minorities are incapable. It’s that your companies are failing to attract and keep them so they’re taking short cuts that lead to frustration. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:49 PM
5

Or sometimes you just want an attractive guy for a night and kick him out…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:35 PM
1

I’m not sure either party lies. I think it’s more that there are delusional suckers that feel misled on both fronts
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:33 PM
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Not sure why some folks get so upset about companies wanting more diversity. They claim that “diversity hires” ruin work, but studies show that having a more diverse workforce results in better output and makes business sense. If a company is having trouble attracting women or minorities that are also competent, the problem is with company screening and culture, not the fact that the marketplace wants to see more diversity. Seems like the hate should be directed at companies wanting to “diversit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:32 PM
1

I’m pretty sure people are equally outraged. And I’d probably be equally outraged regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:50 AM
5

You’re going to have to be more specific. In a court of law or just personal feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:20 AM
5

Tbh, you took too long to get to the question so I just didn’t read it lol. Couldn’t be bothered. So yeah, cheating is bad. Also your question doesn’t make sense. Is it “do you care whether infidelity hurts men more than women?” Or “would it make a difference if the world could prove that infidelity hurts men more than women?” Or “would you be more sympathetic toward men if we could prove infidelity hurts men more than women?” Or “do you think it is worse for women to cheat on men than for men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:12 AM
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Wait. What? Women cheating on men is existential because it might be someone else’s child? Is it also not existential for women since if a guy cheats, you can get an std and literally die from cervical cancer? Your premise is bad. Cheating regardless of gender is absolutely horrible and I cannot think of a single instance where it would be justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:01 AM
1

I think you’re confusing attractiveness threshold with whether the guys are more attractive. The casual sex guys can be more attractive while the attractiveness threshold is the same for both casual sex and relationship sex. There’s always an attractiveness floor but I doubt many women have an attractiveness ceiling
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:56 PM
2

I actually think the opposite. We’d often characterize young men as brash or “telling it like it is” but I don’t think we’d say the same of feminine young women. I think our culture would rather encourage subtlety in women, which is a trait closely aligned with mysteriousness. I still remember being told by older women that women should maintain an air of mystery if they want a marriage to last…and some of that might be considered outdated but things like, get ready in the other room so your hus…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:47 PM
3

How important is “mystery” in a woman? Is that a trait that makes a woman more or less feminine? I ask because I feel that TRP just boils femininity down to submissiveness and meekness, but I’d argue self control and mystery is also a very feminine trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:39 PM
1

It means we don’t want a shallow relationship where the conversation goes: “how was your day?” “Good. Thanks for asking.” We want to get to know someone at a deeper level- their hopes, dreams, fears, etc and really understand them. The greatest part of love is to be understood and to understand someone else and to accept all of who they are. If you have a guy that offers nothing but surface level emotions and conversation, you don’t have a boyfriend, you’ve essentially got an acquaintance that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:42 PM
1

If you can’t trust the woman you’re dating, might as well not date at all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:38 PM
6

Whew, thank god all people just wear big signs that say “I’m a bad person; don’t trust me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:37 PM
14

I think we just don’t use the term “alpha widow.” We would just say “she’s hung up on her ex and is only going for rebounds”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:01 PM
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Yes, but that depends on what you mean by “dismissive.” If you mean banter or teasing or flirtatious, yes, that works a lot better than becoming a doormat and just coming in with the attitude of “I’ll do whatever you want.” If you mean dismissive like degrading me or throwing shade, that’s comes across rude and I can’t imagine anyone likes that. All of this of course hinges on the fact that you already have some kind of rapport and know each other and that the woman is already attracted. Hot/col…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:00 PM
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They were trying too hard to get the other person to like them and never thought about whether they liked the partner. Aka they only got into the relationship for validation. Work on your self esteem and ask yourself if you actually like them rather than just whether they like you and this becomes less of a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:13 PM
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No. I don’t want to look at another guy and I don’t want anyone to look at me. If I’m breaking up with someone, I want to spend time alone from people afterwards. I think people hitting on me right after a breakup is one of the most disrespectful things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:55 PM
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No one I know is like this forum in real life. I just get bored and want to argue with people and be difficult sometimes. I’m actually a huge romantic and deeply in love and quite happy with my life. Love isn’t a calculation; it’s a build up of experiences and feelings and learning together to see one another for who they are and deciding to stay every day because you love them with their flaws too. Dating is fun; getting to know people even if they’re not a good match is fun. It should be an “a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:39 AM
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Sure! I’m curious
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 02:37 AM
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Ah, I guess it depends on whether you’re like Red Pill or not. Obviously not all men, because I’ve met real men in real life. But PPD guys love to say that the only reason a guy ever enters a relationship is for the sex alone
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:42 PM
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Lmao I thought guys were all about FWB>relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:59 PM
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Ah, well whatever it is, I’ll take that then! Lol when does it stop being whatever that is and start being a harem? What’s the line/point of difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:58 PM
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Yeah, because you gotta have some kind of ending that’s socially acceptable. But women don’t read the novels for the ending. You’re in it for the juicy middle part where all the guys are trying to court the woman and are expressing their affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:44 PM
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Idk, but if all the beautiful men in the world wanted to be with me and love me, I’d be down for that. There’s a reason why romance novels often have some kind of love triangle where multiple guys express love for a very plain Jane protagonist and she’s forced to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:30 PM
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That’s a bummer. Everyone deserves to be with someone that just cherishes them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:32 PM
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Should I just straight up ask them exactly what they want and have them pick it out? Or like give them a gift card? I guess my dilemma is that I don’t wanna come across thoughtless
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:32 PM
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Yeah, so I want to avoid making people feel this way. What’s the best way to show that I care around the holidays without creating this weird pressure?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:31 PM
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Might be a cultural thing tbh. The guys in my life are old school traditional sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:30 PM
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I don’t know about other women, but for me, it’s because If I’m just hooking up, I’m not filtering for personality or profession that much. If it’s only sex, it doesn’t matter if he’s good at conversation or funny or talented because I’ll kick him out as soon as it’s done. I don’t want to spend time with a hookup outside of the bedroom. A guy who is only hot and nothing else would get filtered out if I’m looking for a relationship. For a relationship, he has to be hot and all of those other thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:37 PM
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Like I said, I can only speak for myself and the women I surround myself with. I’d say it was all pretty good advice for us and worked pretty well. We were already on step 3 and had no problem with attracting a pool of men. I guess women who have attracting problems should seek out therapy and read style books and follow fitness gurus, etc. But unless you’re socially stunted, women should already know this. If you look bad and have a terrible personality and only want to filter, I assume it’s be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:04 PM
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Yeah. So that’s why I’m not hardcore FDS. I would only recommend FDS to women who have already gotten themselves together and the best person you can be. I don’t think that women and men who are still sorting out major issues should be dating. You cannot be a good partner to someone else if you’re not even a good person on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:25 PM
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Assuming you’re a guy and the main reason is the second one you listed, what do you want the women in your life to do around the holidays then? How should they show appreciation and love in a way that is comfortable to you? Do you prefer thoughtful cards? A home cooked meal or expensive trip/experience? Nothing..?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:21 PM
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I also love giving but these days, I am trying to be conscious of not overwhelming people. I realize not everyone loves getting gifts and that for some people, it results in too much pressure or maybe they are annoyed that they keep getting useless gifts they don’t want. What have you given in the past that your partner really enjoyed?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:11 PM
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Is that because you prefer being the provider/the giver? Or is it because the gifts suck?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:09 PM
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Again, those women need to recalibrate then. FDS is not for those women. It’s a strategy that only works for women that are suffering from abundance. Women who have problems attracting men should find other avenues and focus on self improvement first. There are more than enough books and websites and programs for attracting and keeping men that those women can seek out. FDS is purely about filtering, which is why I don’t think it’s some kind of holy grail.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:09 PM
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Do most men like getting gifts? How much is too much or too little? Seems to me that the old generation tends toward the whole ‘gifts are for women and children; I can buy what I need for myself’ but I wonder if that’s changed. Maybe that older generation prefers thoughtful acts of service over material goods?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:01 PM
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Every couple months I get really bored and want to argue. I want some kind of drama or conflict and this is like watching a bunch of people scream at each other from completely different universes about what the “one truth” is. The truth for a 16 year old living in rural Tennessee is going to be different from the reality that a 30 year old woman in New York is living and also different from a 62 year old man living in Colorado. There is never going to be any kind of agreement because circumstan…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:59 PM
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I think people have different preferences. If I was single, I’d love to hook up with a virgin. I wouldn’t want to be in a relationship but I’d love to take his virginity and teach him the ropes. The problem is that guys in their 30s that are virgins are often virgins because they’re unappealing in some horrible way. If they were otherwise normal and a virgin, that would be a super hot scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:06 PM
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That’s because you’re a guy and you’re projecting guy values onto women. Most women that I hang out with don’t care about athletes. They’re looking for “the one.” We want to fall in love with someone compatible but are inefficient at filtering out people who are incompatible and give too many second and third chances. That’s who FDS is for. Again, FDS is a filtering strategy for women who are looking for someone compatible. The goal is not to attract a bunch of guys that just follow you around o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:27 PM
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I don’t know about every single woman, but among my friends, none of us are short of dates or people that are interested. I would consider all of them quite pretty. Their problem has always been setting boundaries or self worth or deciding when to cut things off, not getting guys to chase them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:23 PM
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I really do think I found someone that checks all my boxes. I don’t think I’ve had to lower my expectations or adjust, or if I had- I hadn’t noticed. If anything, he’s more than what I could have hoped for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:03 AM
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A good personality is subjective. My partner and I can talk for hours on end and laugh and go on adventures. I have a great time. He may not be your cup of tea and that’s fine. Why does it matter if other men find his personality compelling? I’m sure you date women with personalities that other girls probably consider “basic” or whatever. You like what you like
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:01 AM
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I think if people want to be ultra frugal and never pay for anything, that’s fine. But you may not be a fun person to hang out with and women may not like that. Or, maybe you find a woman that doesn’t mind paying for everything and being super cheap. Who am I to tell you how to live?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:51 AM
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Well, if you feel like your pool of applicants are not sufficient, that’s when you go back and recalibrate. Most women I know do not have a problem attracting; we have a problem filtering and choosing. You’re acting like women don’t know if they are unattractive. Of course they know! Fat women know that they’re fat; they don’t need to be told. And if these fat women feel like they need a better pool, they can adjust and work on themselves and then come back to FDS. If you’re using FDS, it’s beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:49 AM
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Depends on the pool available to you, but I’ve found a guy that fit all my criteria so I see no reason to adjust my standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:43 AM
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Have you considered that what you consider a “good personality” differs from what women might consider a “good personality”? A guy that you wanna hang out with and consider fun is probably not the same kind of guy I wanna date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:41 AM
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Oh, they would still matter. Stop thinking of either/or. The key word is and. It’s a holistic assessment of a person
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:36 AM
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That’s because FDS is a vetting strategy and not an attracting strategy. Most women don’t need to attract more applicants; they need to filter. Plus, most women already know that being attractive is important. There are so many sources for that; we’ve known that since we were born. I don’t need to be told that I need to wear make up or that I need to wear clothes that compliment my body or that I need to smell nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:33 AM
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Not all. But most, I assume would want someone more good looking than not. If he fulfilled all my non physical criteria, had magical chemistry and was super hot physically, why would I say no? Does anyone go around saying ‘yeah, if both guys were equal I want the ugly one not the hot one’?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:28 AM
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The point I’m making is that conventional attractiveness is the standard that people should assume on top of any other traits they list. Trust me, if a woman had more unusual preferences, she would let you know. They would say something like “I like guys that are closer to my height” or “I like guys that are really skinny.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:05 AM
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No, man. You’re the outlier. Customers who order water at a restaurant expect a certain standard for water. If you can’t deliver that and you can’t read between the lines, you’d be fired. This is true for any job. There are certain social expectations and you are required to read between the lines. If you cannot do so, you are socially challenged and not part of the norm. If an interviewer says “just bring your resume” you should also assume that you should bring your resume in some kind of fold…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:02 AM
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You can care more about personality and still date conventionally attractive men. I would not be with my SO if he wasn’t kind and intelligent; he’s also in great shape and very attractive. I need both, but I value personality more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:58 AM
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On your ideal woman- do you want her to have hair? What if she’s bald? What if she was in an accident and doesn’t have a nose? What if she’s blind or doesn’t speak your language? Do those things matter? Seems like you’ve just lied about your preference 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:51 AM
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Everyone else in the world seems to get it. Why do I have to go out of my way to accommodate people that are socially challenged? Usually when people talk about these things, it’s not serious. We’re just making conversation. And two, I shouldn’t have to be ultra specific. If I ask you to fetch me some water, should I also add that the water needs to be cold but not frozen, in a drinking glass from my cabinet, filtered and clean water and that you should get the water within a certain time frame …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:48 AM
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Seems like if this is causing someone a lot of anxiety they should seek out therapy and get down to the root reason of why they feel so inadequate and why they can’t believe that anyone could ever love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:42 AM
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Being vague is not the same thing as lying. If someone asked me what type of guy I want, I would probably say “intelligent, kind, thoughtful, or funny.” All of these things are true. But I also have other traits that I desire. It’s not women’s fault that some men can’t read between the lines. The other thing is that often, dating is a holistic exercise. “Scoring” high on some traits can sometimes make up for others. There is also nuance and some things are situational. I’d never date a guy that …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:38 AM
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I don’t see a problem with this. Someone can find you attractive and still enjoy your company and value you as a human. The only thing that matters is that they keep it to themselves and don’t act on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:55 AM
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Why do you keep doubting your relationships? If they’re meeting your needs and are telling you that they desire you, maybe believe them..? This problem seems self inflected
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:53 AM
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Precisely
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:25 PM
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In this scenario: You don’t really want to be peed on because it’s not your kink but you know she peed on guys before as like an act of disrespect or dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:16 PM
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I kind of don’t get why people get so upset about unfairness if they never even wanted it. Is it just that you wanted to feel included? If my bf peed on his ex but said he would never pee on me, I would be like “yeah, cool. I’m not really into that to begin with.” I’m assuming his tastes have changed, something traumatic happened or he was never really into that act and did it for her. As long as he treasures me and meets my needs, I have no reason to doubt his love.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:14 PM
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What if she only can pee on people she doesn’t respect? Some guys only want to have kinky sex with girls they don’t respect and will end up having very vanilla sex with the women they love. Madonna/whore complex. Women can have it too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:05 PM
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Sure. That’s fine. I’m sure he’d have his reasons. If it’s cultural, I respect that. If he’s shy, that’s also valid. If it’s due to trauma, I’d be understanding and won’t feel the need to change his behavior but might suggest some therapy for his own sake. I’m pretty indifferent about PDA, I can adjust to most levels and just meet my partner where they’re at (within reason). Let me offer you a counter question: would you be willing to be with a girl that peed on her last partner for sexual reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:54 PM
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I guess I don’t get the point of it all. Sometimes certain acts just don’t come up with a partner because they never ask about it and you just are indifferent to it. Or it’s just been inconvenient. Then what? It doesn’t say anything about attraction at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:56 PM
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We also liked him as the “good guy” trope as Peter on Heroes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:03 PM
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It’s because you just smashed the fantasy of you they’ve created in their heads. They approached you because they expected you to be a certain way and so when you killed this made up character they’ve created, they became uninterested. You attracted a certain subsection of women that are deliberately selecting for those ultra masculine traits and you disappointed them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:14 AM
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It’s not just panty lines, a nude thong is also good for dresses, skirts, pants, etc that are of lighter color or are more sheer. Panty lines are also a real thing. You haven’t noticed because many women go out of their way to hide them. I’m very concerned about panty lines. I think they look awful and draw unnecessary attention to my backside.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:09 AM
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It’s true. Every single moment of my life, people just give me free stuff, free money, free housing. Living a life full of unicorns and butterflies over here. You should get a sex change!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:05 AM
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Do you have stats to back this up because I’d argue that most women are also into politics, sports, cinema, arts, etc. I think the problem is that you are not interested in the same things they are interested in. I know so many women in running groups or yoga. Many of us go to museums together and talk about movies and TV shows and the latest article from GQ or the New Yorker or whatever. You might find a movie like Legally Blonde to be superficial and boring, but there are plenty of young women…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:29 PM
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According to people here, the only motivation is sex and nothing else
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:04 PM
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I know plenty of equally uninteresting men. I ask them what they’re interested in and they often say work, work out and see friends. That’s pretty much exactly in line with your complaints about women. Ask them what sports or music they’re into and I had some of them say “whatever my friends are into” because they just follow the crowd. These boring men and the boring women you see find each other and get together. The rest of your complaints are just complaints that old people make about young …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 08:59 PM
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Honestly because they’re young and stylish. Of course that’s hot. Why would I wanna date someone that dresses like my dad or looks like my older cousin in his 30s? Plus, no facial hair is smoother and more pleasant to kiss. Teen heartthrobs appeal to younger women, shocker
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:29 AM
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I mean. If he shows love and is loyal, why would I have these fears? Seems like pure paranoia if all evidence points to how he loves me. I don’t believe any of my family or friends or partners are settling to be with me. I assume they think I’m as good as I think I am. I think I would only have these fears if I was suffering from like depression or an anxiety disorder. Those aren’t really normal thoughts or fears
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:26 AM
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Low key, looking at folks the only wall the men and women hit is parenthood. The people I know that have kids suddenly look tired and old.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:11 PM
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I also find having a child to be an utter nightmare. Never liked kids when I was a kid either. Never enjoyed babysitting and never dreamed about being a mother. When people coo at children, I genuinely don’t get it. Being forced to be a mother is my worst nightmare
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:10 PM
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Can’t relate. I am the Stacy or whatever. And if he’s not into my that seems like a him problem not a me problem. A guy is always welcome to leave. He should want to be with me you know? None of that settling crap. So if he dated other pretty girls, whatever. I must be equally pretty in his eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:01 PM
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Well if your only motivator is money, you’re also gonna be a rather dull person
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:17 AM
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Life is boring and people are boring if the only motivator is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:00 AM
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Does it matter? And like if a bartender also does it for men, is it equally effective from a sales perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 02:35 AM
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No no, but like it’s a sales tactic like where you give a small gift in hopes that you’ll win their favor and they’ll tip you more than the market price of the drink. You’ve never seen this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 02:27 AM
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What is the point of bar tenders giving out free drinks? The guy bought all my drinks tonight and there was no chance that he was gonna have a shot with me. Is it because they think you’ll make up for it in tips?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 02:19 AM
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This goes for men and women. It happens to both.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 11:54 PM
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All I know is I’m glad I’m not competing with gay guys. It’s brutal out there!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 11:51 PM
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That’s a bummer. But also I feel like worrying that much about money would also translate to the relationship. You just need to find an equally frugal woman because they’d probably understand. I’m frugal in some senses but not about going out
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 09:55 PM
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You don’t necessarily have sex before getting dropped lol. Sometimes you just go on 4-5 dates with just cute stuff and then end up breaking it off for whatever reason
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 09:31 PM
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Gay men do this all the time. Except, you all get invited to the same bar and have to fight it out in person. I saw a friend do this and promptly broke off the friendship. The guy invited 4 guys from Grindr and said he’d go home with the hottest guy that bought him the best/most drinks. Incredible. Guys will do it too if they had the option.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 09:28 PM
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The best way to motivate people is set them up to have small victories. That way, they can use those small wins to build self confidence and increas expectations. Managing people 101
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 09:23 PM
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I think it comes down to culture/norms. Read the room and watch what everyone else is doing. Where I am, it would be a bit strange for a guy to take me to a fancy Michelin star restaurant on a first date. Wine bar and small bites is more appropriate where I am. However, I know some of my much wealthier friends (trust fund kids) have no problem flying out somewhere or going to a place that would absolutely kill my bank account. In college, no one I knew had much money and I’m pretty sure we did c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 08:45 PM
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Well you gotta have time and be interesting. No one can date a girl that works 80+ hours either because there’s simply not enough free time for dates
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 07:38 PM
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I think it’s more that all the guys insist on treating me so if one guy demands that we go Dutch it signals that he doesn’t like me and there’s not gonna be a second date. Every guy that was head over heels for me wanted to treat me and have fun with me. Even with friends, if we’re eager to see each other, we’ll pay for each other to show generosity. I’ll always pay if I know I have zero intentions on seeing him again. Otherwise, I’ll insist on leaving the tip or if I really like him, suggest co…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 07:32 PM
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How are you telling them? And did they ask first? Wording and tone is very important and also the intention. I think they’re probably not happy if they want to have the “let’s be exclusive talk” with you and you basically tell them no- because that’s a rejection in their eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:25 PM
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Okay, that’s fair. I have a very American perspective. I have no idea what it’s like in other countries. Also dating around doesn’t mean everyone is necessarily sleeping with each other, it literally just means you’re going on dates and like flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:15 PM
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Oh. If it’s honest, I don’t know any guys or girls who would have a problem with it and also that term “spinning plates” shouldn’t be needed. It’s literally just dating. That’s what people did back in the 1950s too until they were “going steady.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:12 PM
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I don’t know why this is called spinning plates. I think what you’re describing is just called dating around. Most people date around- you go on a bunch of preliminary dates with a bunch of people and decide to be exclusive later on. I think this is fine. Most women and men do this. Correct me if I’m wrong, but spinning plates is about deliberately misleading people to believe they are currently or will be exclusive, no? If everyone is honest about what’s going on aka they know this is a FWB sit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:04 PM
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Teenagers are always gonna be overly dramatic and self defeatist. That’s not new. I was like that in the 2010s before I had my first serious relationship in college. Lamenting about being alone is a very common (and stupid) teenage tradition
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 03:59 PM
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I’m starting to think that my boyfriend and I are just argumentative people but only outside with strangers. He has like an alt Twitter account to argue with people and I ended up here sooo…but maybe most people seek out conflict in one way or another? I see friends’ parents arguing on Facebook with strangers as well
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 09:23 PM
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Read that last paragraph again. You’re just observing sunk cost fallacy. She just wants things to be back the way they were because at the beginning things were good. She’s thinks that she’s been in this for so long, she can wait a bit longer until things are good again. And then she waits longer and longer and then she thinks it’s too late to leave now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 06:06 PM
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Yeah. Probably. It’s stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 05:12 PM
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I’m not saying it works. I’m just saying I’ve seen it happen more than I’d like where he’ll make her feel insecure by saying that she’s dumb and would never survive without him or that her friends don’t really have her best interests in mind or that she’s not as pretty as she thinks she is. Should people do this? No. But does it happen? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 05:03 PM
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Yeah. Pretty girls don’t get treated better in relationships or sex, even if they get treated better elsewhere. In fact, in relationships and sex, I’ve seen guys try to lower pretty girls’ confidence in an attempt to control them or make sure the girl doesn’t think she can do better/leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:35 PM
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Yeah. Lots of UMC guys living in big cities of my generation are like this. Many of them are in my friend group and I’ve dated some of them too. I think they’re great. We connect because we have similar interests obviously. But just because we share similar hobbies doesn’t necessarily mean they’re feminists or that they respect you. You can do yoga and be vegan and read poetry and not respect women or purposefully lead them on or talk shit about women. The metrosexuality doesn’t mean they’re fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:30 AM
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💯
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:44 PM
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It’s true. I’m secretly a vampire and have been alive for many centuries, just arguing about human relationships with mortals
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:37 PM
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Nothing new. People have been saying young men/women are failing as adults/real men/women since the dawn of time
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:28 PM
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All top tier cute/hot in different ways. They’d play differently depending on setting/audience/age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 02:35 PM
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Zero. Sex with boyfriend is sex with boyfriend. Sex with someone casual is just that. They are entirely different things and nothing has changed for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 11:02 PM
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I’m with you here. If you have a ton of money and aren’t using any of it to make yourself look better or be more interesting, what good is that money? Who wants to date a guy that just hoards money and never uses it for anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:44 AM
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You drove over 3 hours to see a girl? Yeah, that’s a no from me. I’ll never do longer distances again. I know what I’m willing to compromise in my relationships. Distance and politics is not on the list. That’s not being too picky. That’s just having priorities. And instead of wasting a guy’s whole night, I let him go early to try and strike up a conversation with another girl. That’s called being courteous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:46 AM
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Have you been in a relationship where you had to deal with those things every day? I have. I didn’t think it mattered until it built up over time and drove us both crazy. It may not be a deal breaker for you, but I will not be making those mistakes again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:38 AM
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Would you rather a woman just entertain a conversation and flirt knowing it will go no where? What’s the point of wasting everyone’s time?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:30 AM
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I’m sorry, what. Rocks? Do you hang out in the geology department? I mean, I’m not against conversations about rocks but I can’t say topics about sedimentary rocks and various fossils and minerals come up in daily conversation with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 09:37 PM
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I’m sorry, what. Rocks? Do you hang out in the geology department? I mean, I’m not against conversations about rocks but I can’t say topics about sedimentary rocks and various fossils and minerals come up in daily conversation with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 09:37 PM
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I’m being kind. I’m not saying he can find someone and make it happen within 10 mins. I’m saying I would limit our conversation to 10 mins and not drag it out if I know it’s a dead end. I would leave him after 10 mins instead of wasting his entire night
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 09:12 PM
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This fits into can’t be crazy and old. I do kinda wonder what drew the guy in though. Like was she pretty? Was the sex just really good? Was it that he was also a deeply flawed person?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 08:10 PM
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Well, there are plenty of girls with ugly faces and fat, out of shape bodies that are waiting for you to call them! Go get em tiger
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 07:48 PM
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CMV people generally get to have one major flaw and that’s it. You can be crazy but you can’t be crazy and ugly. You can have a meh face but you can’t have a subpar face and an out of shape body. You can be short but you can’t be short and balding if you want people to date you. I don’t know why guys are acting like this is unfair. Of course hot guys and girls can have a terrible personality, they have everything else. Did you expect Stacy and Chad to go for you- someone who has a bad personalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 07:44 PM
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It’s both.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 07:37 PM
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Being short isn’t a death sentence but it does take points off, so you gotta make sure you don’t get points knocked off elsewhere. You can be short and do fine. You cannot be short and balding or short and fat. I’d work on my body, making sure I don’t get a weird complex, work on having a rich social network, make sure I have a decent job and live an exciting life so I have great stories to share. Then, target petite girls that live otherwise boring lives and see if they’re charmed/impressed. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 07:34 PM
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I mean, yes? You’re wasting your own time AND his time when you don’t cut things off as soon as you see an incompatibility. Imagine flirting and talking with a girl or guy all night, only to realize they’re leaving the country and heading straight to the airport after this conversation. Like, what a waste.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 07:28 PM
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I kind of feel like it’s better to know earlier rather than later though? Do you really wanna find out you’re incompatible after 3 dates? Or I can let him go after 10 mins to try for a different girl
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 06:56 PM
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Sometimes you get a conversation going and they something dumb or reveal something about themselves that I don’t like. At that point I’m no longer interested. This can be political affiliation or they tell a story that puts them in a bad light or I find out that they live really far away.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:57 PM
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Yes. They’re too slow with getting to the point of asking me out (too much filler conversation)and so I lose patience, they say something dumb which makes me walk away or they come over but can’t carry a conversation. Or I can tell by their eyes that they’ve picked up on it but maybe they’re taken or they’re not interested- and usually the girlfriend shows up a little while later. Most normal guys know. If they’re not acting on it, it’s for a reason. Being overly forward and spelling it out puts…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:44 PM
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Never had anyone miss signals. More often, they’d fumble the response to it and that’s where things fall apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:25 PM
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I think people just don’t realize what’s most important to them until they’re living with someone. Small things build up and you don’t realize what you’re willing to compromise until you’re put in that position. I didn’t think politics would be a huge part of a relationship but then I dated someone where we fought about politics often and it was exhausting. I thought I wanted someone more outgoing, but I realized that actually as long as they can go with the flow of social situations, that’s all…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 02:52 PM
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Its everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:42 AM
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The guy I knew from high school is now in his 20s but looks like he’s in his 40s. He’s fat, he has the worst haircut I’ve ever seen, he’s balding and his clothes don’t fit. The girl, who was also in our year, by contrast looks like she’s in her 20s with glowing skin. I saw the photo and it didn’t even register that he would be my age. He had aged very poorly is what the expression means.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:10 AM
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It’s not great. She must really love him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:03 AM
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Just saw a photo of a couple I knew from HS. The husband aged like milk and looks like the girl’s fat uncle. I almost said “beta bucks” then realized they’ve literally been together since 15. I wonder how many of these mismatched couples are just one of the two aging poorly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 12:01 AM
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I’m bored. There’s no good gossip anywhere else in my friend groups or in the office. I just wanna see people rage tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:29 PM
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Or they think that just because a girl sleeps with them that the girl likes him. I’m like dude, chill out. Nothing is set until you make it official.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:10 PM
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To be fair, this is not gendered. I’ve had to remind guys that they’ve only just started seeing a girl and that he likely thinks it’s way more serious than it is and that they’re not exclusive. Seen too many hearts broken that way man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:47 PM
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Like I said. Only hot people get away with absolute terrible behavior. Which is why I make sure to treat everyone around me like absolute trash just to see if they’ll challenge me. The right way and only way to do hot girl summer /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:45 PM
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The only way to know for sure that you’re hot is to start making more and more ridiculous requests and watch people scramble to accommodate you. People only tolerate bad behavior from hot people. CMV
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:35 PM
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Well that’s different. The point is, wearing chapstick is super normal. All my coworkers, male and female have like chapstick in their desk or in their pockets during the winter. I don’t know why you’re so against moisturizer
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:37 PM
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Literally never? My boyfriend uses my chapstick or lotion whenever he’s around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:32 PM
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Yes, he’s very well loved haha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:14 PM
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I’ll take a second look but then never think of them again. Or if it’s after a first date, I’d just be disappointed that he wasn’t more interesting and move on. Again, I don’t really think about them again because even wildly handsome guys are kind of common compared to guys you really connect with and like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 04:03 AM
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On travel- I like traveling and trying new things but I want a home base. I don’t want to travel every month or move to a new country every 2-3 years. I think he thought that because I was open minded and liked traveling sometimes that I would be down to be more of a nomad type. And I think us staying together would have killed his travel dreams. I wanted to settle down in a permanent home and he did not. As for attraction- it’s usually the smile and when they get passionate about something. I f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 03:56 AM
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Yes, that’s correct. They all ended due to long term life incompatibility issues. Going to different universities led us to ultimately decide to mutually break up, realized our career ambitions/hours would never line up, realized that we envisioned very different lifestyles when we were older—I mistakenly thought he would eventually want to calm down and he mistakenly believed I would want to have more of a globetrotter lifestyle when we accumulated more capital. That’s usually what it has boile…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 03:45 AM
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No. Because the men I fall in love with are irreplaceable. I’m not in a relationship with my boyfriend because I’m lonely or want sex. I’m with him because I like him specifically out of all the humans in the world. If anything I appreciate relationships more because I know how unfulfilling life is without the one I love. You can try and find a replacement but it’s just feels empty and it’s not going to be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 03:39 AM
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This is also generally how it works with me. I don’t think it’s branch swinging if you didn’t line them up beforehand. Men just come to you and shoot their shot. I think a lot of guys assume that if you move on quickly, that’s branch swinging, but if you didn’t know each other during the relationship, this is just a woman naturally moving on. Like, if I broke up tomorrow, I can find a new date with a guy I’ve never met before within an hour or two. That’s moving on way too fast but not branch sw…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:47 PM
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Well that’s a shame. Sorry to hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:28 PM
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Interesting. Why do you think that is? Is it conscious on your part?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:25 PM
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Most of my friends are perfectly competent about talking about these topics. I fear that you just keep bad company or are picking the wrong setting for these things. No one wants to talk about these things while dancing at a club or during sex. A better place would be a dive bar amongst friends or over a dinner party.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:15 PM
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Hanging out with my parents as an adult is great. It’s a much more equal playing field now and we respect each other. But would I want to date someone with the same personality? Absolutely not, something feels icky about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:13 PM
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Yes? My boyfriend and I will occasionally go to a bar and pretend like we don’t know each other and try to pick each other up. This is especially fun when we’re on vacation or something and we make up fun back stories
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 02:43 PM
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Yeah. And I’ve done it before. I’m totally down to have a husband that spends more time at home and helps with domestic stuff. I think it’s hot when a guy can anticipate household needs and can take responsibility for the things that need to be done. Where I have a problem is when a guys does neither- does not contribute with household duties AND does not bring anything financially AND complains about the situation. I’m more than happy to support someone who is trying
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 02:40 PM
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The interesting thing is, I think a lot of people do this unconsciously even when they have nothing to gain from it as in, this is a hot person that you are not sexually attracted to because it’s your own gender or under no circumstances will you be sleeping with them. So what is it for? To just be in the presence of someone pretty? As praise or reward for someone being hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:49 PM
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I mean I agree. I guess my question was to find out whether it was conscious or not. And to what extent. L
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:46 PM
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I think it’s pretty clear that when you’re pretty, you get better treatment. So how are you guys personally showing special treatment to hotter, prettier people? Are you the ones personally buying them a free coffee? Do you give them preferential treatment? A lot of people seem to think that ugly people don’t deserve anything so my assumption here is that they personally treat people differently based on appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:04 AM
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You need to make friends. Even if you do get a date, if she finds out you have no friends, she’ll jump ship. Having no friends is a huge red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:24 PM
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What they’re trying to say is that pretty helps but pretty is not enough. Of course women know that being pretty is the most important thing. The problem is that many women think being pretty is a guarantee that bad things won’t happen to you. Being pretty gets you all kinds of things, but being pretty doesn’t mean you don’t need to vet people. If anything, you should be doing more vetting. Being naive and pretty with low self esteem makes you a magnet for abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:22 PM
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Ewww if the nose hairs are long enough that I’d notice them, I’d dump the guy too. That’s gross. Would you date a girl with noticeable nose hairs? I think not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:08 PM
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I weigh 120 and I’m 5’5”. How is that obese in any way? That’s perfectly healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 08:02 PM
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I mean, I guess if you’re growing that kind of makes sense? Like most people aren’t done growing at 16. I have no idea how to judge if 40 pounds is a lot or not. If a guy grows taller and puts on muscle or if a woman grows taller and fills out around her boobs/hips, that makes sense. It depends on how they carry it. I’ve definitely gained 25 pounds since I was 16- when I was shorter and sub 100 pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 08:00 PM
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Have you perhaps considered that most kids in high school are kind of ugly with acne and bad hair and the stress of school weighing on them and most men and women start to look better in college/early adulthood? So it’s not that the physical requirements went up; everyone just looks better at this age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 04:00 PM
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Unless the orbiter says anything to indicate interest, the woman won’t know and therefore can’t consider them as an option. If they want to be an option, they need to make a move. And if they make a move, they’re probably no longer an orbiter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:39 AM
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Too accurate. For most women, this is the reality. Before I learned how to do my make up and dress better, this was exactly how it was. Guys my age never looked at me twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:56 AM
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It’s not your face/genetics that’s your problem. It’s poor taste mostly. Also if you’re striking it out, it’s likely not looks related but maybe related to body language, tone of voice, what you’re saying, style, etc. I agree with all the hair comments- just get it cleaned up professionally whether it’s the hair, eyebrows or beard. Give it proper shape and definition. Your picture is also a bit off putting just because of your expression so like, idk if you go up to people but maybe put a slight…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 11:43 AM
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Wut. Who hates good looking men? The only people I see hating are guys that are jealous. Please, hot guys, don’t hold back with your thirst pics. Go ahead and post them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 11:35 AM
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Not married…but I’m assuming if and when we get old, our preferences will also shift? Or like if all else fails I guess you can turn the lights off
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:46 PM
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You should feel good about yourself! Bet you worked hard on that body
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:45 PM
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I mean, sure. But she wasn’t like ultra fit and working out all the time and neither were the men. In terms of weight, being 5’5” and 135 pounds is totally attainable. The rest is genetic luck. I feel like there’s just more of an onus on men and women to work out and eat better these days and do it all the time. You see these old actors and actresses and they’re not even as good at singing and dancing and acting as professionals today. It’s like the bar to be at the top has risen exponentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:37 PM
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I’m not saying her measurements were necessarily attainable, that’s obviously genetic luck/bone structure to have such an hourglass. But look at her old photos! She’s absolutely gorgeous but doesn’t have the instabody by a long shot. Like read about her diet and exercise regimen and it’s not nearly as intense as whatever celebrities are doing today.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:27 PM
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Anyone else feel like body standards were like way more attainable in years past? Like, I look at pictures of guys and gals from like the 50s and 60s and they all look fit but not impossibly fit. I feel like Marilyn’s got nothing on these instagirls with impossible abs and same with James Dean when compared to today’s actors. They all looked much much older than their age too. Celebrities in their 30s today look a decade younger than celebrities in their 30s of bygone eras. Is it because they al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:12 PM
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Dude. No one asked you to do it. I’m not dating you so it doesn’t matter. But my boyfriend cleans it up and the guys I’ve dated in the past all kept it under control. My favorite celebrities keep a clean looking chest too. It’s personal preference
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 09:50 PM
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The guys I like get it waxed off. I think that’s quite common in the city actually
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 09:43 PM
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Early to mid 20s. I think I also just grew up only seeing hairy guys that were a lot older I guess? Like when I go out with friends, none of them have hairy chests. And I know that in the past, my SOs preferred to shave/wax any chest hair
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:01 PM
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I’ll send all the hairy guys to you! I can’t with a hairy chest; I don’t know why but I hate it. There will be an attractive guy and then he rips his shirt off and his chest is hairy and all I can think about is like oh, is he really that old? Maybe it’s a cultural thing. I know hairy chests were like big in the 70s/80s or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 01:36 PM
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Yeah, one of my friends is like that. Eh, but not me. Personal preference you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 01:32 PM
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Man boobs and like love handles. Guys will swear up and down that they’re not fat, but if you got fat spilling over your jeans as a dude, you might be chubby. Same thing with like man boobs. Hairiness- it’s normal to have some hair but I’m talking about hair on your back or like hair on your chest. The worst is like a hairy butt. Get that stuff waxed. The biggest offender though is just bad style. There is no greater turn off than ill fitting and tacky clothes. You can’t buy taste and poor taste…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 01:14 PM
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Male simps are male simps because they don’t have boundaries. Doormats gonna doormat regardless of situation or gender. I’ve seen guys simp for other guys that clearly don’t wanna be their friend. Doormat
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 12:27 AM
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That’s the thing about doormats, doormats never choose each other because doormats don’t have any self respect. They somehow believe that they don’t deserve mutual respect and that’s why they’re doormats. Being a doormat is different from being generous and kind. Being a doormat means you let people violate your boundaries and take advantage of you. If you were with an equal, you would no longer be a doormat. People accept the love they think they deserve, which is why men and women need to work…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 12:09 AM
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Seems like the only conclusion for people who follow this ideology is to simply never marry. I mean, marriage is the ultimate commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 09:50 PM
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Doesn’t RP argue that women are more stressed about commitment? If that premise is true, shouldn’t the guy take the woman’s name to prove commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:43 PM
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Door mats gonna door mat no matter the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 07:51 PM
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Honestly, I don’t think it really matters. Names are for practical purposes. I mean, if he has a better sounding last name, maybe? But let’s say we’re both famous in our respective fields and have built up good reputations, it would be silly for us to give that up. It would make more sense to just keep our existing name as it would mess with our brand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 07:50 PM
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I wouldn’t say it’s disgusting. I don’t like to assign morality to people having sex. It just means you’re gonna have to find a girl on equal footing probably
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 01:11 PM
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That’s high for sure. Don’t send yourself into a moral panic. That’s more than most women I know for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:50 PM
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Orrrr they’re himbos and we love them for what they are. Not everything is a trick. Sometimes a guy is sweet and sexy and just so so dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:46 PM
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Gonna get my comment canceled for this. But imagine wanting to be a victim so badly that you think smart business decisions are deliberate moves to oppress male sexuality. LOL can’t make this shit up
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:44 PM
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It’s majority women. Yes, men will buy their wives things sometime, but the majority of the consumer base is women. I sometimes buy my boyfriend clothes if I see something he might like or for a gift or if it’s a funny t shirt, but I am not the target audience for men’s clothes or men’s accessories. I used to cover L Brands (which owns VS), I assure you it’s a primarily female consumer base
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:42 PM
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You realize that Victoria’s Secret sells bras and underwear, right? Who do you think buys these things? Their consumers are women. Before, the idea was that they’d feature models that women envied and wanted to look like. The women would think that if they bought Victoria’s Secret, they too could appeal to men the way the angels did. But consumer taste changes. These days women want underwear that they feel comfortable in. And so, they want to see models that look average so that the average wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:58 AM
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Himbos are my fave. Like very good natured labradors. That attitude is key and if you can cultivate that persona, I think you’re golden
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:31 PM
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I think the top one is fix yourself and have the option of choosing yourself. You cannot control other people or negotiate attraction or convince someone to give you respect. The only way to move forward is to invest in yourself and do not rely on people to the point of codependence so you can walk away if needed. That means, you have your own job and your own money, you have your own group of friends and emotional support, you have your own hobbies and goals, you have a strong sense of self and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 08:54 PM
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Haha I thought guys didn’t care and wasn’t affected by “vibes” per PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 01:28 PM
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More like 3some>plain/ugly chick. Right? Because there were other women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 04:02 AM
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Interesting…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:51 AM
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Fascinating. So this is a calculated effort to play out a particular fetish/fantasy then
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:47 AM
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Sex. So you’re saying all this is a fetish then? Rather than a calculation of what they can get and what they’re willing to sacrifice?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:45 AM
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Do you think for both genders that share, it’s just low self esteem? As in, when guys say that a girl will rather just share a “Chad,” she just doesn’t think she’s enough to be offered monogamy and when a guy shares a “Stacy” he feels like he doesn’t deserve more? Or is it, the ugly or average woman/man isn’t worth the trouble and you’d rather just take a shitty deal and share one good man/woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:30 AM
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Fascinating. Thank you for a good explanation of the tactic! I just can’t believe guys would be willing to share a girl just to increase the chances of getting laid. Damn. Tough out there I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:26 AM
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Hmm. I guess that is sort of a thing. Personally, I don’t get it. But I’m not gonna yuck someone else’s yum
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:17 AM
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Your wingman is not supposed to also compete for the girl though, right? Isn’t a wingman supposed to like hype you up and make you look good rather than competing with you? Had it been a wingman situation maybe I’d understand more. But also there were other girls and people were drunk, why not just move on and try someone else rather than offer up the option of sharing as a last ditch effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:16 AM
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You said you’d consider it if she was gorgeous and it was your only shot to be with such a girl. Why not just go for a plain or even ugly girl and give up on the pretty one. That’s the part I don’t get. I see guys chase one gorgeous girl or even fight over one pretty girl but then all the guys here will say that they’d rather just have one plain and not fat girl to themselves. So which is it? Is there an attractiveness threshold for both genders where they’d compromise and share?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:14 AM
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Wasn’t in the mood and seems like a hassle. Also which one? Both? Or pick one?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:02 AM
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Fetish to fight over a woman? To share a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 02:53 AM
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I keep thinking of this time I was at a bar a few years ago and a guy desperately wanted to take me home. His friend was also eyeing me and I said no chance. They escalated to “choose one” and finally compromised to “you can have both of us tonight.” Not sure if they were just really drunk or looking for an excuse to hook up with each other but my question is, would guys be willing to share one woman if they liked her enough. Men here say that women would rather just share one great guy, but in …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 02:41 AM
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Meh. Some boys are just himbos. Just little sweeties with no long term potential
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 01:44 AM
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I never understood what there is to fight about. Style? Meh, defer to the publication
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:23 PM
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I mean, for some of them, women are just not biologically strong enough. Like for construction, it’s just gonna be a lot harder if you have a small frame. It’s partly gender related, but also about class+biological realities. I’d argue that the guys dying in these dangerous jobs are also not tiny, scrawny dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:56 PM
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I mean, I agree. With most women and men that are facing issues with job security, pay and dangerous situations or hard hours, it’s more of a class issue than a gender issue. Women born into wealth are not scrubbing toilets and getting paid poor wages under the table, they are not forced into prostitution. Men born into wealth are not risking their lives doing mining or construction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:42 PM
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I agree it’s a problem. But just to play devil’s advocate, no one is forcing men to take these jobs, right? It’s a choice unless it’s a class issue and they’re so poor and have so few options they can’t afford to take any other job. It’s not being a man that’s the problem. It’s that you are in a class that doesn’t have an opportunity for white collar work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:25 PM
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Pretty sure that’s a class issue not a gendered one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:22 PM
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Yeah the few nurses I know are very head strong and bossy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:42 AM
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Clearly not as easy for some men because I’ve seen quite a few chunky young men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:40 AM
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Average men at age 20 with lower body fat would have a much better shot idk what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:09 AM
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Best of luck! You seem like you know what you need to do
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:06 AM
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Definitely get more social in classes, friend groups, etc. Your biggest hurdle is that 24% body fat. That is not great. I mean, 24% at your young age is unhealthy and would be off putting to almost all women. So yeah, to be brutally honest, you’re asking too much for a woman not to be fat if you’re at 24%. But, that’s something that can be changed with good diet and exercise and as long as you don’t develop a complex about it, you’re fine
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:45 PM
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Yes. Women hate when their fantasy is shattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:22 PM
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These are not contradictory statements. Of course people want to have sex with attractive people and not want to have sex with ugly people. But the vast majority of people clamoring you for sex and harassing you are unattractive for one reason or another, and one of the unattractive traits I see most is desperation/thirst. Normal, well adjusted men don’t clamor for sex in weird desperate ways and to get to any kind of normal guy, I have to push the hoards of weirdos out of my way so I can even t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:16 AM
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He’s like 50+
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:55 AM
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Yep. This is also what I hear from the southern side of my family. Lots of polite and feminine southern women are also tough on the inside and want men to pull their own weight. They won’t hold back and will tell me if a guy is a loser or a chump
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:27 PM
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People who are “orbiters” are not just doormats to women, they’re also often doormats to other men. Their friendships are one sided and their other friends hang out without him as well
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:23 PM
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I mean, I don’t see a problem with this. I was an ugly kid at one point and didn’t have guys lining up to date me. Of course people are more interested in dating me once I got pretty and got shit figured out. I think the phrase is really for people that you already have a strong relationship with- close friends, families, serious romantic partners. The phrase is meant to convey that you don’t want fair weather friends. To use it for people who don’t even know you is stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:14 PM
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24
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:14 PM
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No, I’ve been working and have a full fledged career. Finished college a bit early.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:12 PM
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Is it really plating if you’ve only got one though..? I thought spinning plates implied you generally had to meet a minimum threshold of 2 women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:09 PM
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Yeah. You’re just too old. I think perhaps high school relations and honestly, sentiment around status has changed since you were young. We’ve got like 35 years difference. Younger people today, men and women, are more status driven than before because of the internet. You also said you went to a small high school, that’s definitely a different dynamic. My school had around 2000 kids in a class so of course it was going to be more fractioned and status/group related.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:07 PM
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How old are you? I ask, because you seem either too old to remember what your friends looked like in high school or too young to have seen friends graduate and grow up. People do not stay the same. And status is something men also care about, at least in big cities. If men didn’t care about status, I’d never have to hear about who got clerkship or who got into a top 5 law school and who got a new car. The men in my world care very much about status. And even my boyfriend admits that the girls he…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 06:57 PM
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I promise you, they really did not care about me. Some of them even rejected me at the time and it’s not like I was ugly, I just wasn’t popular. Status mattered a lot in high school you know. And you think guys at age 17 look exactly the same at age 35??? What world are you living in? I can think of at least a handful of guys that I was mutual friends with that looked like dorks until they got into high school. Then they worked on their body, their acne cleared up, they got better clothes and be…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 06:19 PM
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Most adults look very different from their high school years. They become more confident, look less awkward and have more friends and hobbies. I’ve seen guys and girls glow up after high school. And I look better now than I ever did in HS. I got high school boys that never gave a crap about me messaging to see how I am. Maybe they just think I have more money now, or more likely, I’ve become a prettier, more interesting and successful person like most people did. Just call me Becky Bucks 💕
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 06:07 PM
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Or sometimes guys that were ultra ugly and socially awkward at age 17 grow up and become a much more handsome and functional adult by age 35. That’s not settling. The guy changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:33 PM
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It’s also that the guy changes as well. It’s pretty gross to think that I as a grown adult would still be head over heels for the same 13 year old boy I had a crush on in middle school. As a teenager, I was really into teenage boys with that Justin Bieber hair. It’s stupid to think my preferences would remain the same as a 20-something. The other thing is that my crush at 13 also grew up and became a different person, an adult. I’m no longer interested- he seems utterly unremarkable now. This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:31 PM
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Gotcha. Congratulations btw. My office is kind of doing once a week right now. So no big call back to the office until the fall probably. I think we’ll just follow all the big banks for timing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 09:42 AM
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They’re making you go back to the office? Where are you based out of?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 09:15 AM
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I can do under 25% body fat. Anything over that is a no go. So probably 6ft with average face if under 25% body fat. Would take my height (5’5) with great face/body if the other guy is fat. But the shorter guy needs to have clothes that fit well, because you can’t see/appreciate a good body with ill fitting clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 02:43 AM
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No, I mean, what is the physique on that 6ft guy. Like, is he fat? A lot of “average” guys like in the Midwest/south have man boobs and a belly. Not sure if I can get around that even if he’s tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 02:37 AM
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Exact height if that average looking also includes average American physique. 6ft if that average face comes with a good body. Edit: but I’m 5’5 so this perfect 5’5 guy would also have to have good style and clothes that are perfectly fitted. Like imagine having a great body/face but wearing ill fitting clothes; that’s horrible
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 02:26 AM
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I’m not talking about standards. I’m talking about where desire comes from
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 11:28 PM
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I just don’t think dating profiles are a good medium generally. I won’t even see most profiles because there are too many. The gender imbalance is insane and there are a lot of bots and sex workers. The better way to think about female desire is in media- songs, movies and erotica.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 11:20 PM
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Can’t remember who it was, but one of the users wrote something really good about style and how that plays into various character fantasies. Think about even something as simple as male strippers- they all have over the top personas for a reason. It doesn’t need to be that campy, but think about your strengths and play into them. Play into your environment with clothing, haircut and conversation topics. There’s a reason why women obsess over aesthetic. But a good starting point for everyone is d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:56 PM
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You don’t think a character trope is a being? That a made up personality is a person simply being..?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 04:01 PM
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This is not about dating profiles
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 04:00 PM
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You don’t think women lust after characters or character fantasy? I often feel that women lust in scenarios rather than body parts
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 04:00 PM
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I’m confused. When I explain objectification in the post, it’s not just about boobs. It’s the idea that you see a person as a collection of parts (this is not inherently a bad thing). Where as I think women tend to personify, want to see men as a whole character trope (this is also not inherently good or bad). Niceness could detract points if the woman in question has assigned you a certain role in her head and this overt “niceness” contradicts that. Because now, you are not following her script…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 03:59 PM
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I don’t think one is better than the other. Both can be harmful if taken to the extreme. Again, with these traits, I think you’re picking up on the details that many women assign them character traits. I’m not saying women/men are more superficial are the other. I’m just saying I rarely hear men talk about women as being hot because she is mysterious, outgoing, etc (character traits).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 03:52 PM
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I mean, I was thinking just like even something as basic as where we want to live permanently, how we want to spend our weekends and I guess that includes stuff like household stuff and style.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 02:41 AM
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Ewww. Do not wear vineyard vines. Vineyard vines are for frat bros in college
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 02:24 AM
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Mostly, we don’t want the same things. Whether it’s we don’t have the same values, same long term life goals, same kind of family dynamic, same standards for living, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 05:15 PM
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Actually as a woman I agree with thus. It won’t overcome like major physical deformities but if you’re average or slightly below average, this will make all the difference in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:54 PM
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I was gonna say this too. This is not an ad to rope in female customers. This is an ad for the male customer that loves gamer girls. They want to see their favorite fantasy babe promote the drink and win that money. Some of them are emotionally invested and will vote and campaign for their favorite girl. The fact that this came up in PPD means their strategy is already working because I never think about Miller Lite ever. It’s not my drink of choice and here I am thinking about the brand
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:04 PM
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I think this is a bit different because Kanye is straight up off his rocker. Like the man is mentally Ill and no one can force him to get help
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 07:12 AM
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You clearly are someone who’s never had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:15 PM
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It’s also in your best interest, because a guy that can’t follow banter is also gonna be too socially awkward to have sex. As in, he can’t read body language or your facial expressions well. If you can’t do banter, you can’t read whether your partner is having a good time or if she’s in pain. You would be completely lost in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:33 PM
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Or you know, just start respecting yourself. I don’t care how great the girl is. You don’t need to act like a doormat. Just be a normal human being with a normal amount of self respect and self esteem. If you don’t like her, don’t date her. If you like her, date her but don’t volunteer to be her servant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:29 PM
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I need banter and flirtation. A kind of mutual and playful push/pull to create desire. If a man doesn’t know how to flirt back, the attraction is dead. Foreplay starts with banter. Nothing is worse than a guy that can’t go with the flow of conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:26 PM
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Soooo you want a 24/7 livestream of the person?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:05 PM
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You’re a guy, right? When you’re in a public restroom, how many guys thoroughly wash their hands with soap? I’m told, it’s not the majority. This is what the bar is in hell means. Kids are taught to wash their hands. Yet, grown men that I encounter for work or in social situations do not know how to do this. And somehow they’re married or dating a woman. It’s shocking
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:58 PM
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Are you a native English speaker? I’ve never heard anyone use the term physique as a way to mean “way of life.” Are you saying you want to shadow a red pill guy for a month? A woman who follows FDS for a week? I just don’t understand the point. Do you think this guy that you’re talking about has a live stream going 24/7 for his audience?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:54 PM
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I’m confused…is the only thing that matters is if they’re hot? If they’re hot, then their beliefs are 100% right? I don’t get this line of thinking. Don’t know if you’ve lived life before, but dating and working and forming human relationships goes beyond just “be hot.” Did you want a screenshot of their bank account too? A list of their assets? You can have all of these receipts but it still wouldn’t tell you if the people around them value them and like them. It doesn’t tell you if their syste…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:41 PM
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If you’re living pay check to pay check and worrying about a bunch of other things, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:31 PM
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Honestly, my dad is great. I feel very lucky to have a father that fostered my intellectual curiosity. He encouraged me to read a lot of books and made sure our family had annual passes to various museums as I was growing up. He made sure I got to travel and experience different cultures. Most of all, I appreciate that he never treated me or my brother any differently. We were equals in his eyes even though I’m a women and he’s a man and even though I’m neurotypical and he is not. We were praise…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:12 PM
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Working from home has been hell. I basically distract myself all day and then try to rush to finish everything at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:53 PM
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Gay men are brutal. It’s not just bigger is better. It also has to be pretty to look at. Had a chat with an older gay man last night and it’s tough out there. Hard to find romance and no gay man really wants to stick around. Guys will invite three guys off the app and let them fight it out in a bar to see who goes home with who. Everyone lies on apps and they always look worse in person. He got divorced after 27 years because his partner was cheating on him. Straight dating is awful but after he…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:57 PM
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Weird af that guys get so concerned about other peoples’ weight. Like, you don’t even know what they look like. Leave them alone. I’m convinced all this fat women hysteria is just guys projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:12 AM
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Yeah, because for a neurotypical person it sounds sociopathic af. Sounds like some American Psycho bs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:07 AM
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You gotta pitch them. Duh
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:32 PM
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People in big cities drink a lot. There’s a huge drinking culture. Every meetup usually involves drinks. Brunch? There’s booze. Lunch? Lunch cocktails. Dinner? Wine or beer. After dinner drinks and happy hours. Even corporate events are booze heavy. To make friends and even to network and keep your job, alcohol will be involved. And well, more and more young women are moving to the cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:38 PM
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Wasn’t date raped because I got away, but drunk men are very strong. I had a guy (I knew him beforehand but had never drank with him) grab onto my wrist and neck and it was terrifying. He wasn’t even a big guy and he was drunker than I was. It took everything I had in me to push him away, but he wasn’t even trying. Lowered inhibitions + natural strength brings out the monster in guys that already had rapey tendencies imo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:47 AM
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You don’t even have to be the girlfriend to feel like a mom. I was once invited as a plus one to a wedding. When we got there, he realized he had not brought a wedding gift. Then, instead of apologizing to me for making us both look like fools, he asked “why didn’t you remind me to bring one?” This kind of weird entitlement is what makes a woman feel like a mother. It isn’t my job to get a wedding gift or to remind a guy that he needs to bring one. It’s his friend’s wedding, not mine and I was d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:11 PM
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It’s not because women don’t have hobbies. Socially awkward people like this that can’t read the room annoy everyone and it’s off putting to almost all NT people. I once had a work call with a guy on the spectrum…he spoke for nearly 2 hours straight. I asked him 3 questions. We were in the same field and he was on the client side. Everyone on my team agrees this guy talks too much and can’t read social cues that indicate the other person wants to end the conversation. It doesn’t just kill romanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:50 AM
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Good for you. But the OKC study that people love to cite say men only like women up to age 24 and supposedly women hit the wall at 30 soooo… that being said, I’m debating just to debate here with the “studies” that we have. I don’t actually know any individuals like this and so I do think you’re being honest, but I wonder if you and the people I know are the exception rather than the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:06 PM
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And do you think women your age are representative of the entire female population? Yeah, this is what I’m talking about. If you’re around 20-30, the women look great. But women in their 20s and 30s dont account for 80% of the female global population
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:35 PM
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Great attitude and I would offer the same advice to any woman as well. Having sex and falling in love shouldn’t be at the top of the list. You have to do things for you too, things that make you feel good and accomplished. Like attracts like. No girl wants to be with the guy who has nothing but porn. No guy wants to be with the girl with no interests other than erotica. Do ultra hot people bend the rules? Yes. But that’s a short term solution if you want life to extend beyond your 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:54 AM
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Oh okay we’re like totally on the same page then. Yeah, I totally see where you’re coming from. Once you’re late 20s/early 30s I think age gap relationships totally make more sense because you’re not missing out on much and have more in common
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:33 AM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:20 AM
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That makes sense. But also settling down with someone 10 years older when you’re already almost 30 is different than being 19 and trying to date someone in the 29-35 range, you know? By that time you’re reaching 30s, you should be mostly an adult and should be equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:19 AM
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I’m with you. 35+ in the movies look great. But like Mike in accounting at age 35+ in Milwaukee? Idk about that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:08 AM
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Well, you’re definitely killing it for your age. You’d slay in the Midwest for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:45 PM
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Guys in their 20s can make 6 figures. Why would I go for a guy in his 40s or 50s..? Might as well be with a guy my age that makes decent money and I’ll contribute to the account as well
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:41 PM
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Not sure where you live, but where I live, you’d be the exception rather than the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:39 PM
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Older guys (~3 years) is great. This is different from old men aka 10-20 years older
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:35 PM
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The retirement thing is tricky because women also tend to outlive men. So like, she retires at the same time with him (earlier) and might outlive him to the point where she runs out of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:32 PM
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How many guys in their 50s are in good shape..?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:30 PM
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Well for one, you’d have a lot more widows. And many women would be stuck caring for their much older, sicker husband. 10 years is a lot. What would we have in common? We can’t even go drinking together or go to the same parties. He would never be able to keep up with a younger woman, would be older and more wrinkly and out of shape. Then the woman in her 30s/40s will be dealing with a guy with ED. If he retires 10 years before she does, what will he do all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:56 PM
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I would say that my generation/our generation is just very pessimistic. And if you think the world is only going to get worse, why would you bring kids into this world? At the same time, I think a lot of young people that don’t feel steady want to have kids. My parents didn’t want kids until they had an established career and a house. So maybe as/if we grow up and feel more secure, some of my peers will change their mind
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:33 PM
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I will say though that it’s not impossible to find a partner. I do know of one or two guys with aspergers (I know this isnt the same as autistic but still) that did get married and find women that accepted them for who they are. They have wonderful qualities if you can get past the other stuff and nobody is perfect you know? It’s just... it is very very difficult, much harder than for others and I feel for you guys. And I guess I’m holding out hope that my brother might one day meet someone that…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:35 PM
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Best answer. You can’t plan out someone else’s life
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:31 PM
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...this doesn’t say anything about what they’re like with their family. What if they’re married to a nurse that works hard hours and also does all the housework?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:30 PM
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This isn’t meant to be an attack or insult, but being socially dense or autistic is actually worse than being ugly. If you are deemed as rude or socially awkward, you become a liability to a woman and her social life. Also you might eventually accidentally offend her and once she’s offended, it’s hard to keep sex or a relationship going. Source- have an aspie brother that I love dearly but can’t set up with anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:26 PM
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I actually think there might also be a gap in what people consider an “approach.” I don’t consider indicators of interest an approach. I don’t even consider walking up and placing yourself in proximity an approach. I’m interpreting an approach here as a cold approach where a woman straight up asks a guy out, verbally. I think subtle flirting, conversation and putting yourself in the right place at the right time all count as good girl game. I just don’t think it’s effective to flat out ask a guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:38 PM
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I feel like if you can’t pick up on interest via body language and eye contact, it’s an indicator that you’re not familiar with the culture or you’re socially unaware and both of those are red flags that many women want to filter out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:30 PM
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Because anyone, regardless of gender, that falls in love easily and on a whim is kind of a fool. You might not want to be with a woman that sleeps/has relations with a bunch of people because it might indicate that she’s not very discerning and might continue to do so in the future. The same is true of men. Do you want to be with a guy that falls in love with a woman by the second date and has fallen in love with 10 or 20 women? Or maybe hasn’t fallen in love but his standards are low and he’s n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:30 PM
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Yes. When I walk past a guy or walk into a room, I’m aware of whether he took a second look. I can tell if he’s interested. And if I’m also interested in him, I will meet his gaze. If a guy has been watching another girl all night, I’m also aware of that. Why would I go out of my way and approach a guy that is clearly not that interested in me or actively chasing someone else? If he’s just watching me and not making a move, my assumption is that he’s taken already or that he can’t read signs of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:20 PM
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Sounds about right in my group of friends. There’s not a lot of time for relationships if you’re working 80+ hours a week
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:58 PM
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No. But I am UMC and where I live, it’s kind of an expectation that you would try to get into a good university. I mean...have you been a student recently? The expectations are just getting higher and higher, even for like state schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:40 PM
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Plenty of High schoolers and college girls are virgins. Being a virgin that’s mousy and plain and forgettable doesn’t result in any affection or attention. I can tell you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:23 AM
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I mean. Hot girls are hot and can get away with a lot. If you’re hot enough, guys will let you do nearly anything and behave in abhorrent ways. So yes, some limitations maybe, but for the most part hot wins you points. Being chaste does not. I’ve never seen a girl get special treatment for being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:20 AM
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Men make effort for hot women. Chaste doesn’t win you any points
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:17 AM
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That’s so cute! I love seeing couples so cute things and dress up for date night even as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:59 AM
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Sounds about right. It keeps going up for a reason. And part of that might be just lack of time and extreme stress on students
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:27 AM
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Is this a quirky standard? I don’t know...I think to keep a relationship going, you still have to want to try and impress each other. It doesn’t have to be extreme but I think both my partner and I take pride in our appearances, even when it’s just the two of us alone. I’ll do up my hair and make up and wear something sexy, “just because” knowing that it would put a smile on his face. He does his hair and puts on a nice shirt and some cologne because he knows that kind of thing wins me over. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:26 AM
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22 is not that much older..? Like that’s basically the same life stage
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:27 AM
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Honestly, what young person has time to have sex or have a relationship these days? I’m sure that’s part of it. I never had sex in high school. I had never had a serious relationship until 18. No one ever really asked anyone out because we were all too busy with school and extracurriculars. I slept like 4 hours a night. When was I gonna go on a date? Even in college, my boyfriend claimed I didn’t make enough time for him and I wasn’t even premed. My premed friends have it worse and some of the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:48 PM
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Welfare is super tricky. Actually, if you get caught taking more money or even if the government over pays you and it’s the government’s fault, you can be charged with fraud and taken to court. So I’m sure there are people who try, but it’s not like there’s no punishment and it’s free money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:48 PM
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As an UMC American, these things have no impact on dating for me or anyone I know. All the women I know work in some capacity and make white collar wages, so they’re not living on the brink of poverty. I suppose it could make a slight difference if you were born poor? Like you’re probably not gonna be forced to prostitute yourself in the vein of Les Miserables if welfare makes sure you at least get one meal a day. But that’s about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:16 PM
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Physically, absolutely. Young professional athletes that are handsome and in good shape are great to watch and admire. I am super interested until I find out they’re not even 21, then I feel like a cradle robber and am considerably less interested. Also when they say dumb stuff in interviews, that kills attraction. As someone that’s over 21, knowing that the other person can’t even go out for a drink with me is an attraction killer. Equally an attraction killer is finding out that we are not in …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:32 PM
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I can’t imagine a woman who thinks like this would be able to maintain any good interpersonal relationships. Idk. Me and all my girl friends are fine. I feel no jealousy when they go after a guy. We hardly ever overlap; my friend loves sporty guys but I could care less. Another just really loves Italian guys (?) and that’s also not really something I care about. Does anyone over age 14 really compete that hard with their friends? Women you don’t know or care for, sure. But your close friends? Na…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 01:47 PM
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Or...you know, you can have good female friends and still look cute? You can 100% have a hot boyfriend and a good groups of female friends. Tbh, I feel like women that only have male attention and zero female friends are a walking red flag. Women hang out with other women because they like each other. These friends aren’t usually competing with each other because they have different taste
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 12:15 PM
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The point I was making was that the women who think they’re in a Jane Austen movie probably are trying to compete, because that’s how they think the world works. I don’t think all or even most compete. But there is certainly a sub sector of women who feel like this is a competition, which is why some women will spread rumors to tear down another girl’s reputation or compete by bending over backwards for a guy and acting more and more ridiculous. Of course, that is not to say any of this competin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 11:37 AM
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Socials skills are a skill. Some people have to practice harder than others. There are plenty of people that have social anxiety for example but put on a persona as part of their job. It’s like acting. People that are likable and charismatic are acting, to a certain extent. They pick up on your body language and facial expression and respond accordingly- even if their response is not entirely truthful. So for example, you would lean in a little and pretend to listen even if you think the person …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:54 AM
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Younger women don’t compete? Dude, no one competes like young teenage pickmes with too much time on their hands. Have you read Jane Austen? There was a lot of strategy and competition in those novels too, to win the affections (and also respect) of good men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:46 AM
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Spending too much of my teenage years being artificially unhappy because I compared myself to others. I was never skinny enough, never pretty enough, didn’t have enough friends, wasn’t likable enough, smart enough, talented enough etc and hated myself. I talk to folks now that we’ve graduated and practically everyone felt this way. I thought people were having way more parties and fun and romances and sex than I was and had severe FOMO. Years removed now, I see I missed very little and a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 02:17 PM
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People who think they were tricked are willfully ignorant. They must have never consumed any media—TV, movies, music, news, reports and lived solely with their grandmother who said they were perfect in every way. They must have also never had any kind of socialization or have never met a woman before. Trust me, even at age 5 you’d see all these “wonderful girls” in kindergarten pick their noses or fight with other kids and realize that they’re absolutely human just like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:05 PM
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Speak for yourself. I’ve had many men try to do this to me in the workplace and even in school. It ends with them saying “let’s go back to my place to continue this conversation” or “let’s grab coffee when the term ends.” The difference is I was distrusting enough not to follow them back and sometimes, it is very difficult to know whether you’re gonna go have coffee at their place to chat (as is common in many schools) or if you’ll go back with them and they’ll pull a move on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:02 PM
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Yeah. I’m telling you, that’s a bonus for some older guys. They specifically like that she’s too young to drink and really, too young to know anything. These are the guys people hate on. Not the guys just happened to bump into a women in the bar that was younger than he expected
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 11:54 PM
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I’ve had older men try to chat me up and when I revealed I was over 20, they were much less interested. They initially thought I was in high school...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 11:21 PM
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It’s not the sex that’s the actual problem, it’s everything else. I can think of a couple examples but it usually boils down to power dynamics and putting pressure on the younger person- note that this happens quite a bit to young men as well. An older man shows interest in a much younger woman, telling her than he can mentor her and teach her things. She thinks this is a great idea and they spend more time together, not realizing that he is expecting sex and/or a relationship as repayment. He s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 07:02 PM
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They don’t openly bring it up, but their friends know or their family knows. Or their partners obviously were a part of it or whatever. Abortions are and have been actually pretty common, especially among suburban moms. There’s a lot of “oops” incidents once folks are married for a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 06:50 PM
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But you have to have some interests...? Or at least be willing to pick up hobbies together. One of the better things about being forced into lockdown was that my boyfriend and I started teaching each other things and picking up new hobbies together
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 06:46 PM
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Do they know that? Idk I know a lot of pro-life hopefuls. Those that are simply in it to play politics might try just to raise support from the base though, to show that they’re trying or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 04:18 PM
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Why is that surprising? I know many pro-life women. They’ve also had abortions themselves. But they’re super pro life because their abortion was different
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 04:16 PM
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They’re doing it on purpose. They made it ridiculous enough for the Supreme Court to intervene and they’re hoping the Supreme Court will go with ‘let’s over turn Roe V Wade.’ Gross oversimplification but that’s basically it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 02:02 PM
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I agree that monogamous marriages were the norm, but that doesn’t mean that the bonding was natural and out of love as opposed to for convenience. I’d argue that it’s more taboo to cheat now than ever before. Before, it was always kind of expected that marriage would suck and that your husband would be visiting brothels on the side
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:44 PM
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What are you talking about? Monogamous pair bonding? For as long as there have been marriages and the idea of monogamy, there have been people that cheated and people that abandoned their family in favor of another. The only difference is now you can find out if someone is cheating and if your wife or husband deserts you or has another family on the side, you can usually find evidence of where they are and what they’re doing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:21 PM
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Whoa whoa, I had to read it three times before I caught that. Is “I stepped out” the new way of saying “I cheated on my husband”??? Wow, that was hella subtle
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:44 PM
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To answer your title and not the post, yes, the sub changed my views. I used to think my life was very average and that I was doing quite well for myself but not amazing. But boy, it’s like I can’t stop coming back to this sub because it makes me and my boyfriend look like queens and kings. I think I would be embarrassed to say this in real life, but truthfully, this place is a bigger ego stroke than anything I’ve ever experienced. Like my boyfriend and I, even on our worst days, must be like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 09:40 PM
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Nothing compares to LA weather. It’s just delightful. I think Boston is great, but I hate the weather. SF has cool culture but I think it’s a place that’s better for visiting rather than living in full time. I have only nice things to say about Austin. But NY is the greatest city in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 07:21 PM
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Not a direct response to the post, but generally, I think a lot of guys here on PPD can learn a lot from guys in client facing roles/sales. I meet a lot of these men, and they use a mix of identifying market patterns and responding to individuals and social cues. Someone in a client facing role knows that having data to guide you is a useful starting point but that you can’t close or develop any kind of real relationship with just that. Their intuition and soft skills are impeccable and those at…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 04:11 PM
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Like I said, there’s nothing wrong with it. I just pity people who have to do it this way because it’s so much more difficult. Think about it like this- you can teach AI to do a lot of work that humans can do naturally, but the way AI generates outcomes is very different. Basically, a machine would have to generate every single outcome and pick up on every possible pattern to find the right answer whereas a human could pull on past experiences or intuition or shared culture to select the correct…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:57 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with systemizing, but it’s a bit sad to watch because it means you have difficulty relating to other human beings. Most humans, men and women, find social interaction and reading social situations come fairly naturally to them. They don’t have a system where they have to tick off boxes like if people are smiling and it’s winter and there’s Christmas music then the appropriate response is to wish someone happy holidays rather than tell everyone to shut up, even if you find t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:23 PM
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I feel like I’m getting whiplash from the whole ‘average women are ugly and fat and men have no good options’ to ‘Emma Watson, a well known celebrity with all the resources to maintain and enhance beauty, is average.’ Are these two different but very vocal groups of men, or are they changing what an average woman looks like just so it suits their arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:13 PM
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Imagine the humility if clothes were banned for a month. All the fat and wrinkles would be exposed. /s. But the thing is, most people or at least the people I care about know exactly what I look like without makeup or have an idea of what I would look like. I’ve never had anyone recoil just because I took my makeup or clothes off. Literally made zero difference in terms of how I was treated. I think my life would be exactly the same
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:10 PM
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Didn’t go through with it but I’ve been propositioned a few times. How did I know he was out of my league? His profession and confidence about it. They were so sure that I’d be going home with them. They were like models, musicians, C or D list celebrities, etc. I don’t take these guys very seriously though, I can tell when someone is just flirting with me for fun and games and ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:28 AM
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I know the kids from my high school who always wanted to be mothers are doing so. They got married right out of school and are on baby #2 before age 25. They always knew what they wanted, a family, and they got it. The great thing about modern society today is that there is not wrong choice. You can be a “career woman”, you can be a full time mom and you can be both if you have the means to do so. That doesn’t mean any of it will come easy. There’s always a trade off, but women can now freely ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 07:30 PM
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It’s because I don’t find it all that pleasing and it doesn’t make that much of a difference to me. Like having 6 pack abs and great arms is only like half a step up from lean and maybe one or two steps up from skinny. It is however, two flights of stairs up from fat. So you’ll probably see the greatest change in success from fat to skinny but not so much from skinny/lean to visibly muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 06:35 PM
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Have you thought about maybe these women just love their jobs? That they didn’t choose it to attract a man? I have friends that are lawyers and they went to law school because they loved the discipline. They have a passion for what I would personally consider a rather boring and tedious profession. They don’t care if it impresses anyone. I also love my job. It’s the best job in the world and I wouldn’t give it up for anything, not even for more money. I certainly didn’t choose my job to impress …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 06:30 PM
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Damn, it almost sounds like you’re settling for comfort. Almost like, dare I say it, men are also following an AF/BB strategy!?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 01:56 PM
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I think patterns are great for studying populations. The problem is when one thinks you can use these patterns as a clear “how to” guide on individuals. You can use patterns to guide you but it’s not some kind of instruction manual where you can “hack” the one specific girl that you like. I think that’s when some men get frustrated. There’s no singular cheat code. You can study certain patterns and behaviors in CEOs, but following the commonalities that you find won’t automatically make you Peps…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 01:29 PM
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And you’d say every single guy in the world desires exactly what you desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 04:52 AM
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All of the above + different women want different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 04:38 AM
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I won’t ever date someone dumb as rocks, but I have yet to meet a guy my age that I would be interested in dating that was leagues smarter or more intelligent than me. Usually, we end up just being specialists of different fields. When there’s too much overlap, I feel like there’s a pressure for them to “outdo me” and it ends with them looking like an ass. It’s more important to me that he is kind and emotionally intelligent. In fact, EQ>IQ every single time. I’m not hiring for a job, I’m lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 08:51 PM
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I was gonna say this same thing. Girls in college towns are cute but none of them are model tier. This is not what parties are like. No one leaves phone numbers in pockets. More realistic is that he’d get girls following him on social media or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 05:54 PM
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That doesn’t have to do with personal responsibility. That has to do with sentencing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 01:23 AM
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Exonerated for being assaulted? Why would a woman need to be punished for being assaulted? If you were mugged on the street, we wouldn’t be sentencing the victim even if he was walking alone at nights
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:23 PM
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Yeah, but we’re literally talking about people attempting to avoid taking responsibility. This is exactly what trying to avoid taking responsibility looks like, right? The guy didn’t voluntarily take responsibility, he literally was forced by law
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:14 PM
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You know the term “affluenza” was used for a man as a defense in court, right? To somehow shift blame when he killed a bunch of people by driving recklessly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:10 PM
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Aha yes, this is why we remember Bernie Madoff as a great American folk hero rather than human scum
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:47 PM
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Literally the scammer if they’re running an illegal operation? If they stole from you and broke the law, they’ve committed a crime
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:02 PM
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I definitely think my male friends put a ton of effort into their hair with all their hair care products and my male colleagues put in effort into their diet too. That being said, there’s a middle to bottom tier of men that absolutely should be putting more effort in but are still somewhat accepted in society. There was a guy in college that came into class with cum stains on his shirt more than once, the guy still had a friend group to sit with. There was another guy that tried to tell me that …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:22 PM
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Generally skin care and weight fluctuations are harder to manage for women because of hormones. My boyfriend loves to talk about how “naturally pretty” I am, but he doesn’t realize that if I lived my life the way he does, I’d look like trash. Like, my man has great skin and he washes his face with bar soap! Women are more prone to hormonal acne and other skin blemishes because we naturally have thinner and more delicate skin. I’m on a bunch of vitamins and supplements and birth control just to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:50 PM
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Many women may enjoy it, but if you don’t conform, you will be punished. The truth is many jobs, your neighborhood, people’s treatment of you depend very heavily on appearances. To be taken seriously, to be even heard, a woman has to meet a certain level of beauty. One that is pretty and approachable, but not so pretty people get jealous and accuse you of being a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:40 PM
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This is the one. Most guys, if not fat, have some semblance of a chance because there will be some girl that prefers super skinny or super buff or somewhere in between that. Even a little chubby can get by. Over 30% body fat though..? Tough
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:47 PM
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I see what you’re trying to say and I understand. But what seems simpler is for both men and women to go their own way. Just be comfortable being single rather than force yourself to settle with an ugly chick or an ugly boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:29 PM
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It’s more that it’s more nuanced than all looks or no looks. People can’t seem to understand that it’s more like “looks matter but they are not the only thing that matters”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:21 PM
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They can make their bed and lie in it. What’s it to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:19 PM
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I’m also confused. I simply don’t think about people that I’m not interested in having unreasonable standards. I wasn’t looking to get with them anyway. Who cares..?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:18 PM
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Some of my friends model for a living and I used to do teen beauty pageants. I promise you that dating an uglier guy won’t mean that you are treated better. If a woman has low self esteem, ugly af guys will take advantage of that and treat you like trash. That’s like saying any hungry homeless person will take whatever food you have and be grateful but if you’ve worked in a food kitchen, you’d know that that isn’t true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:12 PM
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If they decide they want to settle, they will. I don’t understand why you’re so upset about ugly people having the choice not to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 10:59 PM
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Falls under kindness
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 10:55 PM
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You think women would be more happy with an ugly, old, broke guy that they might have nothing in common with?? Just let them be single ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 10:55 PM
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Ugly men won’t treat you better, aren’t nicer or better partners simply because they’re ugly. Ugly people can be equally horrible. Also if you pity date someone, the insecurity will later just make them a bitter partner. It’s like guys say they don’t want to be settled for...and then encourages settling
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 10:53 PM
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I’m confused as to why you think it’s better if you force a bunch of unhappy people to be together. You’re just building resentment in the population. Those people will just abuse each other and cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:29 PM
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Disagree. Humans are not entitled to anything. If you don’t like what’s out there, people should stay single. Nothing wrong with that. No one should be forced into an unhappy marriage “because the market said so.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:11 PM
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If you can’t find someone to date you because you’re in that much of a financial hole, society isn’t the problem, the individual is. It means the individual has fallen behind and is not meeting the standard expected of the masses. Being financially stable is the bare minimum as an adult and not exclusive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:05 PM
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Do people here just think that if a person is ugly and old they should be subject to terrible relationships and abuse, that they should have zero standards? If someone is ugly and old, let them be ugly and old. You don’t have to date them! If no one wants to date an old, fat, ugly person, that person can just stay single. Leave them alone instead of forcing them into bad relationships man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 07:50 PM
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It sounds like below average guys should maybe just work on themselves and get good. They don’t like the ugly, below average girls anyway. Either that or opt out. You can complain about the system all you want, but it’s not going away. It’s like how people complain about how capitalism forces them to work all the time. Alright, then get to the top of the pile or you can opt out of society and go live in the woods.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:56 PM
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I love match making for friends. But I will only introduce friends to each other if they meet a certain threshold. Sometimes I have girl friends complain that I’m not introducing them to guys I know, and this is because they’re simply not ready to be introduced. If I’m going to introduce one of my female friends to a single guy I know, she must have a steady job, enough income to support herself, be clear of any lingering emotional baggage or ex-relationships, not codependent, must have hobbies …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:52 PM
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No one is asking you to go after ugly women with standards. There are plenty of jobs that require lots of work for little pay. Just don’t apply to those jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:47 PM
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I’d argue most people, regardless of gender, have terrible personalities. I have a job where I meet a lot of people and do a lot of networking. I find most of them to be insufferable. They’re fine for casual interactions and work but I would not choose to have any kind of close, long term personal relationships with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:25 PM
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The only people upset about standards are people who can’t meet them lol this is true for dating, for jobs, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:22 PM
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This is..exactly what most women want though? One person that is really really compatible rather than 1000 sub par guys. I don’t wanna marry 50 guys. I wanna marry one guy that I actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:20 PM
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I think they’re being sarcastic. I’ve never heard a woman in real life talk about this
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:18 PM
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Yum!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:58 PM
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Oh my gosh, that sounds amazing! My friends would love that one!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:19 PM
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Anyone got summer dessert ideas? I’m looking to bring some sweet treats to neighbors/friends/my office. I’m thinking lemon bars maybe..?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:09 PM
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This is true for most jobs that require any kind of person to person interaction. Someone who doesn’t fit the culture is a liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:44 PM
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It’s not just women. People in general are bad at assessing risk. I have guy friends that will stay with random people they met once at a party or conference, men and women that will take random drugs from a stranger, people that will hand over large sums of money and get scammed. If people were good at assessing risk, you wouldn’t hear about people getting scammed or swindled, ever. The same guy who always talks about locking all his doors and getting a gun and big dog for safety reasons might …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:38 AM
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Yo, if someone is fat just leave them alone. If they have other bad habits like smoking, leave them alone. It’s their life. It’s none of your business. Just don’t engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:32 PM
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Man, that sucks. Your poor kid :/ every kid deserves to have a chance at a tree house, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 10:44 PM
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Women aren’t delusional. I’ve never met a single woman in real life that didn’t have an eating disorder or at least disordered eating/disordered exercise habits. Do you think women can grow up and not know that they’re fat? Or grow up never realizing they’re ugly or plain? They know. The fat acceptance movement/body positivity movement is just so those women can be left alone without being harassed. No one is forcing you to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 10:22 PM
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Sounds like a bummer. And kind of more effort than it’s worth? Idk I only like house plants
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 10:19 PM
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All the families I know just outsource yard work. I’ve never seen any of the adults in my neighborhood growing up doing actual yard work
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 10:07 PM
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It’s equally bad with younger men too (18-27). Maybe no wife but definitely on a dating site to cheat with a gf/fiancé. Seems like the only difference between older shitty guys and young shitty guys is the wrinkles/gut. But in general, online dating brings the worst people together and encourages bad behavior because if you’re a dick to someone you don’t know, word doesn’t get around the friend group.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 10:05 PM
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I’m okay with doing away with heigh filters. But you gotta remember that the app isn’t the product. The app is a vehicle for advertising women, which is the product. If you offend your product, you got nothing to sell to male consumers. That’s why bars do lady’s nights but not guys nights.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 07:01 PM
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Just don’t swipe on people without full body photos..? Weight filters are useless because most people are just terrible at estimating how much people weigh. Also we all know that everyone will just lie. Don’t some apps have the whole thin/athletic/curvy/chubby/fat selection thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 06:55 PM
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The guys I had gone on dates with that started being passive aggressive about me not cleaning their apartments lived in fairly clean apartments already. They were mad that they had spend their own time cleaning it rather than relying on me. I have dumped guys after seeing their crappy dirty apartments. These men were mad that they had to continue maintaining the clean apartment even though things were getting more serious
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:52 PM
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Agreed. Also just generally, it’s insulting to think that I wouldn’t want to use my own free time to do other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 03:27 PM
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I think the thing that irks me the most is that I’ve had guys that I wasn’t even living with passive aggressively imply that they had less time to maintain their house or how they haven’t seen me clean their house/do their dishes. Like get out of here, if we’re not living together you need to take care of your own house. I also have a full time job and a lot of it implied that their work and time was more important than mine. I’ve also had this same attitude with male roommates that implied I sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:31 PM
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Lol yes? The positives- sometimes you get free stuff at restaurants or cafes and they’ll seat you towards the front to attract other customers, free drinks/free seating at bars and clubs for the same reason, people at Disney were really nice to me and gave me free stuff or free food and let me jump the line a few times, easier to get meetings with important people or strike up conversations. People generally remember you better. You also get asked to be on TV sometimes during live taping or on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 10:47 PM
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The guys of PPD could benefit from watching more CW shows which are basically just soft core porn for young women/teens
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 06:36 PM
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I’m confused as to why everyone just gets stuck on the “wined and dined” part. FDS doesn’t say the guy has to specifically wine and dine you, it just says that the date has to be tailored to you to show that the guy was listening to you when you were talking. As in, no, it’s not a real date if a guy is sitting in coffee shop and you’re girl #25 to meet him there for a 30 min slot. If he knows that you really like McDonald’s and he takes you there for a date, that’s fine- you mentioned your fondn…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:37 PM
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Sounds like there are whole hoards of people that need to grow up. If you’re born into wealth, of course you’re gonna have an easier time. That shouldn’t be a surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:59 AM
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Depends on the social circles you run in I guess. All my friends are fairly successful in their careers and moderately good looking. None of the men are sexless or have suffered as an incel. Guess they got lucky lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:58 AM
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It’s almost like people have never heard of wish fulfillment. Do they also get upset that a wealthier more well connected kid got hired for a job or selected for a prestigious university? Life has never been fair. That’s why people watch movies
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:56 AM
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My comment wasn’t about whether people should judge or not. I’m just saying that folks use the term too frequently for every situation and now the word has lost all meaning
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:53 AM
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I’m saying that the way it’s commonly used in this particular forum is silly. I definitely think it exists and that it happens. But you can’t use the term as a catch all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:22 PM
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Enough? I’m just saying guys have backups too and I’ve seen it. And I’ve heard of it. Just because you don’t see it happen as often doesn’t mean guys don’t do it. I think both genders are equally capable of acting this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:15 PM
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Is this a catcher in the rye role play..?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 10:25 PM
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My favorite thing is when a guy dates a new girl a week after breaking up with the first, he’s moving on. But If a woman waits a year after a breakup it’s branch swinging because women always branch swing. Also if she grows up and dates someone better it’s hypergamy but if she dates someone worse it’s still hypergamy because this guy must be a covert alpha!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 10:22 PM
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I mean, yes, we’re in agreement. Relationships should be mutually beneficial. Like finds like and everyone wins!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:15 PM
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It’s not that locker room talk, if it even exists, is a problem. It’s that certain men do and say horrible things and then throw out “it’s just locker room talk!” As a catch all defense. If you said/did horrible things out in public, it would still be bad. Have your boys nights and meetings with men, no one is policing that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:14 PM
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Legit. If you’re too poor for a date, just say so? Or like date a woman on the same level. No need to justify your preference. If you run into issues with this not paying a single cent strategy, then it’s because you’re going after a woman with different preferences. If you can’t find a woman that wants this arrangement...well, the market has spoken.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:11 PM
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I think most women I know don’t want to just get married and call it a day? Like I could just marry for money, but I’d prefer not to. I know plenty of guys that could have just married an older rich woman too. But we find it not very compelling, probably because we value our independence and careers. Imagine thinking money is the only thing that matters. I’m starting to see why guys here complain about women going after their wallets...projection
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 02:33 AM
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Aha okay. I usually tailor my terms of endearment to whoever I’m with and what they prefer I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 02:18 AM
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This is cultural/ regional. Go to the American south and people call you “honey” all the time in a platonic way, even ladies you don’t know. Talk to folks from different Latin American countries and their terms of endearment also change. Some of my female friends call me and everyone “babe.” I’ll look at cute animals and call them “baby.” Context is everything and I don’t know enough about your relationship to make the call
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 02:08 AM
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I’d argue it’s about priority. Most people want to feel like they’re the top priority for their romantic partner. It gets harder to prioritize partner A if you’re also checking in with partner B and C. There are only 24 hours in a day and you are only one person. If partner A wants to have a movie night Monday, you have to decline or cancel plans with partner B. If partner C is having an emergency, you have to leave partner A or partner B.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 02:03 AM
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Literally every guy in every country says that about women elsewhere. It’s hilarious. Women in other countries are always sexier, easier, more agreeable, the women here are shit, that’s what they all say
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 12:31 AM
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Haha. This checks out. But also anyone with more than two braincells can watch the world interact and kind of figure out the pattern
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 12:15 AM
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Lol at the idea that women in Asia or Latin America are super agreeable. Not sure about Eastern Europe because I’ve got no experience there, but Asian women might “save face” and not create a commotion in public but it allll comes out at home. And not sure about all of Latin America but the folks I know from Cuba, Peru and Mexico are hardly obedient wall flowers. Funny enough, men in other countries will always say women in another country are easier, sexier, more agreeable every time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 12:13 AM
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I find that both men and women are usually around the same in that department. In my experience, both are equally a little odd
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 10:48 PM
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Assortative mating strikes again. The most common marriage in the Bay Area? Software developer + software developer. Shocker. Followed by software dev + manager and manager + manager pairings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 10:44 PM
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It’s not the crime that’s appealing. It’s the underlying pain and complexities. It’s the reason why people like Batman over Superman. And some people like sympathetic villains or antiheroes because they’re delusional enough to think they can save them/change them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:29 AM
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Gotta have the body for it and the confidence. If you waver at any of the two, it’s a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 12:23 AM
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I don’t think I’ve ever been that quick, ever. Not even with like masterbation. I need a warm up. Foreplay begins with flirtation and lasts all through the date. In fact, I’d argue that the anticipation and build up is the most exciting part. I’ve never been turned on by a picture alone. Wanting to have sex is not like ordering a pizza. It’s not the same feeling as simply being hungry and you’d eat anything presented in front of you. It’s more akin to wandering past a restaurant and suddenly sme…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:32 PM
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I’m not sure that some people here have ever been to a club. Like, club bathrooms are not empty, clean, wide open places to have sex. I don’t even want to pee in a club bathroom. The line is out the door, there’s never enough soap/paper towels even at higher end places with an attendant, the floor is often dirty, you can hear people using the bathroom next to you...these are the grossest places to think about. I don’t even want to like kiss or hold hands in those places.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:21 PM
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What if you just think those are dirty, germy, non romantic places? Then what? I get turned off just thinking about the amount of pee on the floor or if someone else can hear, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:14 PM
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It’s ridiculous to think physical endurance matters at all in a white collar setting but, if you wanna run with this, many believe women tend to have more physical advantages in ultra- endurance sports/activities. They think the female body actually experiences less fatigue, comparatively
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:10 PM
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I mean, read their body language if that’s the type of woman you’re into and just see what happens. But my guess is that, if you’re not openly signaling “hey, I’m into this subculture too!” It’s gonna be hard for them to notice you. But of course, exceptions exist and it’s a case by case basis you know
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 11:40 AM
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Those women are signaling for their male counterparts. They’re not looking to attract tradcon guys because they’re not tradcon women. These people in those subcultures end up with guys in the same subcultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:27 AM
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That’s literally so cute. Sooo cute! Could die from how cute that sounds
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 04:41 AM
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Because they’re cute and cuddly? Big panda fan
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 04:36 AM
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Amaretto sprite. Plus a few shots of gin. I guess if they’re buying, I’m drinking
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 04:31 AM
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Decided to drink tonight and am bored. AMA
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 04:20 AM
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80%. The problem is that guys say too much and ruin too much
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 03:26 AM
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...you think dating around too much is the number one cause of women having emotional issues? Over family dynamics, over social pressure, over financial and academic pressure, over literally everything else? Have you considered that it’s much more likely that dating around too much is a symptom of a woman or man that has had fraught familial relationships in their childhood?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 06:50 PM
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Everyone dislikes anyone with too emotional baggage. No one should ever be a full time therapist to their partner or friends. And it’s not because people are heartless; therapists are meant to be one step removed from the patient’s life. They can provide better insight and help the person more. A partner should be there to help but they shouldn’t be there as a professional doctor. Women don’t just have emotional baggage because they “got pumped and dumped,” women and people have emotional baggag…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 01:33 PM
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It’s okay for people to have flaws and turn offs. There’s not a single person that exists without any turn offs or unattractive traits. The key is finding someone that loves you and likes you, in spite of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 02:33 AM
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This notion is weird as hell because guys also hate women with emotional baggage? That’s like the number one thing people complain about. The truth is nobody purposefully selects their partners for problems..you just learn to love them despite them over time
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 02:26 AM
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Depends on when you met them, right? Like if you just met a woman or man and they started crying during the first date, they shouldn’t be dating at all. Like of course you wouldn’t want them to be your partner. I know guys that have walked away from girls that immediately started unloading their emotional issues s and crying and I know girls that have done the same. It’s unattractive because they’re clinging to a potential partner for a lifeline and you don’t even know them yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 02:19 AM
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That’s not surprising. And it’s because people keep telling them that they’re beautiful so much so that being pretty is directly tied to self worth. And when you’re in a field or job where everyone is pretty competing to be pretty, that chips away at your sense of self and self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 12:59 AM
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I don’t date people out of pity. I actually do help people. I do food distribution on the weekends and also contribute to some philanthropies/nonprofits. You can help people and emphasize and also choose not to date someone in a tough financial situation. I am sympathetic to alcoholics and drug addicts as well, but I’m not signing up to be in a relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 05:29 PM
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Mehhh I’ve seen people struggle and I’m definitely not down to do that. Guess it comes down to personal preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 01:52 AM
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Aerial silks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 01:25 AM
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Also same! Damn. Another writer here? I hate it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 01:24 AM
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I don’t know why people think that it’s one or the other as if one can’t be kind and smart and also attractive. Sounds like a cope for those that are not well rounded...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 01:19 AM
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I’m not saying that’s everyone. I’m just saying I don’t blame women (or men for that matter) that prioritize financial security. Now, people define that differently, but I’m someone that needs a little more than that to feel comfortable and secure. And yes, obviously any man or woman demanding financial security should be bringing some money to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 08:26 PM
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I agree with you. Me and most of my Gen Z/millennial cusp friends are very financially conscious. We saw what the great financial crisis did to families and older friends, cousins, etc that graduated right when the crash happened. We’re all very cautious with our spending, what we majored in/jobs we took, and we bet our partners carefully for financial stability. This has been true regardless of gender. We’re a generation that basically has financial PTSD
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 06:35 PM
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I mean, makes sense to me. I’m just saying the financial standards are gonna be different depending on where you are. There are different norms and expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 06:29 PM
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I think this is very dependent on where you’re living and how old you are. Making 40k in a flyover state will get you pretty far and is considered very normal. Making 40k in San Francisco in your 30s and trying to support a family within your means is near impossible. Why would a woman want to sign up for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 06:27 PM
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Sure, for your first job that’s reasonable. But imagine being in your late 20s and early 30s making 40k and trying to scrap together enough money to get married and have children. Do you know how much a one bedroom in New York or San Fran costs?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 06:23 PM
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Lol you can’t even live alone making 40k on the west coast or east coast. You’d be living with roommates forever
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 06:12 PM
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That kind of behavior is so embarrassing id die on the spot. No one over the age of 13 should be doing this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 05:44 PM
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This is usually the thing that breaks the relationship though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 12:51 PM
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I think it’s weird as hell to have to ask someone if you’re ugly. How do you not notice? Like are you blind?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 12:49 PM
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Nothing. If someone is having a mental issue, they need to get that sorted first and that takes more than a month. Because this sets a precedent for the rest of the relationship. Is he gonna disappear for a month when we’re dating? A person who is struggling needs to focus on themselves and prioritize themselves and you cannot fix them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 12:00 PM
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You’re being dense on purpose. You know it when you see it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:42 AM
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Cant say if it was because he was bored or maybe whoever else he was seeing didn’t work out or what since I don’t know him. But yes, he was never that interested or committed from the get-go because you had only gone on 3 dates. There was no promise of commitment and you weren’t in a relationship. You were just two people that hung out/went on 3 dates. It seems to me that he was never all that interested or involved but maybe you were..? Unless there was a relationship defining talk or conversat…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:40 AM
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You should have stopped after he said “we need to stop seeing each other.” No need for clarification. The correct answer is “okay” and if he’s interested or if the situation changes he would have reached out because the ball was in his court. A slow fade is not ghosting, this is also a way of showing disinterest. These rules also apply to jobs and friendships. If you apply for a job and they say “we’ll call you” and you don’t hear back, that means they’re not interested in hiring you. If a frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:28 AM
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Toxic femininity has been widely covered too ala Queen Bees and Wannabees, Reviving Ophelia, Lean In, Pick me, Not Like Other Girls, Gold Digger trope, Daddy’s Girl trope, Karen Meme, Mean Girls, etc. all address toxic feminine traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:22 AM
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I’ve never been ghosted ever, just in general. I feel like if you’re getting ghosted, it just means you have a poor time reading social cues or you’ve misconstrued the situation/relationship. If it’s a bad first date, usually we both know and just don’t ever follow up. That’s not ghosting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 01:45 AM
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Yeah. I mean, I know I’m objectively fairly pretty but there is always someone prettier than me. I’m not so deluded to think I’m the prettiest woman he’s ever laid eyes on. We’re together because he loves me for all my other qualities, even though I’m sure that physical attraction definitely helps. He’s seen me at my worst, at times when I was certainly not sexy or cute in any way. And I’ve seen him when he looked like crap too. We love each other just the same. I’ve had men chase me solely for …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 01:51 PM
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Those people just straight up hate their sexual/romantic partners. People in good relationships never say this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 08:21 PM
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Obviously! Already got the moderna shot
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 02:55 AM
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I’m more of a city girl...beach maybe. I have loose plans to go to the Virgin Islands or something. Might save that for the fall though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 12:57 AM
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Every summer is hot girl summer, but honestly, I’d rather just keep it low key. Maybe do some boozy brunches but no parties or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 10:53 PM
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Basically, I find him annoying/obnoxious. That’s how I’d use it anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 10:52 PM
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So..? I don’t see that much of a difference. Maybe I’m just not that star struck
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 07:45 PM
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I mean, as someone who has had contact with a few low level celebrities, this ends up happening quite a bit in big cities? At least in my group of friends. I know girls who have gone on dates with band members or low tier models but ended up settling in a relationship with a normal white collar guy. I also have been asked out by one or two low tier “celebrities,” and I don’t think that’s affected my preferences or taste at all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 03:53 PM
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I don’t think people struggle to get into relationships. People struggle to find other people that they seriously like. And of course it should be hard. Every one is a unique individual and you want to find someone that complements you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 08:25 PM
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This just tells me that she doesn’t have any girl game. I grew up conservative. Conservative women have their ways of grabbing attention too and one doesn’t have to be vulgar to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 08:22 PM
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What doesn’t? I don’t get what you’re trying to say
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 02:29 PM
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As someone who knows quite a bit about finance, this doesn’t really prove anything. It just shows that perhaps more men were interested in crypto. Or that men are less risk averse because they’re willing to put money into a relatively new and arguably speculative asset class. I think generally women tend to be more risk averse and men tend to be greater risk takers, usually because of socialization and that shows up in portfolio management styles. Micro finance studies will likely have you draw …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 02:14 PM
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If I’m a teenager or in my early 20s why would I want to be with a guy in his 30s or 40s? Even if he’s good looking, we’d have nothing in common. It’s like hanging out with your dad’s friend I’d imagine. The appeal of young boy band members is the fantasy that you have so much in common and they love you and only you for your personality. You imagine what it’s like to live in their world and for them to live in yours. Would I want David Gandy to come to a house party with my friends? No. That’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 01:51 AM
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Most women don’t need to approach directly to know. If I’m in his line of sight, I already know whether he’s interested or not. You can tell based just on body language and eye contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 06:14 PM
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Yeah, we broke up because I moved..? I’m not into long distance. Look at all these assumptions you’re just pulling out of your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 10:18 PM
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I actually have been in a stable relationship for the last year and a half or so. And I’ve never had anyone break up with me. Obviously, whatever I’m doing is working..? Or at least, it’s working with the types of guys I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 02:38 PM
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Never ask a fish for tips on how to fish. Isn’t that what the guys say?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 02:26 PM
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I’m not saying it works on every guy, I’m just saying that introducing a bit of combativeness or difficulty makes you more interesting to a lot of guys. I connected with my HS ex years ago and asked him about our relationship and his feedback was, “you were too nice.” And the guys that crawl back to me? They miss the having a bit of edge or spontaneity in their life. This is obviously different than being an ass all the time; you need balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 02:07 PM
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They say they don’t like push pull, but watch what they do, not what they say. Most guys can’t even recognize push pull, they just see the woman as being charismatic or magnetizing. Best way to get a free drink at the bar? Push-pull flirting, and it works even if there are other girls around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 01:55 PM
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That’s because women that are happy won’t say anything. When my friends are happy in their relationships, I don’t hear anything about their husband/boyfriend/fiancée. It’s when they’re upset that you hear about their SOs. Just like how I mostly hear about my friend’s boss when she’s upset about her job.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 09:31 PM
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Well, I’ve tried it both ways. And hot chaotic tends to get more attention than hot and stable. Some guys just like a challenge. It’s like if I pull back first, they want to win me back. If I play coy, they want to impress me. I’ve even tried being outright mean a few times, they showed up with gifts lol. Tell a guy you’re crazy, and they’ll respond with “I love crazy; I can handle you.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 09:25 PM
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Listen. I’m just telling you what works. There’s a reason why you see men clamoring to do things for otherwise icy women. I watched one of my friends help this girl move, did all the heavy lifting...she didn’t even say thank you. She was ice cold. And it’s not like he didn’t have other girls on the side, he just liked chasing her. I’m not saying you need to be that cold all the time, but if you pull back a bit, they’ll often chase. A woman who knows how to tease-as in stay cold but give them a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 09:17 PM
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Men love push-pull as much as women do. And dismissive, “mean” girls are great at this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 09:05 PM
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There’s a caveat- women will introduce you if she thinks you’re good enough for her friends. I won’t introduce my guy friends to my girl friends if I don’t think they’re serious enough or mature enough to handle going on a date. I pre-screen these set ups and if I feel like she won’t like him, no chance of introduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 03:53 PM
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Yep. Common refrain I hear around my New York colleagues (mostly men to each other) is “never get married before 35”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:04 PM
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Idk like Timothee Chalamet? Or kinda like Hasan Minhaj
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:29 AM
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Lol Don Draper isn’t for women. It’s men’s wish fulfillment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:10 AM
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Attractive objectively I’m sure but the opposite of my type
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:06 AM
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I was gonna say that I no longer initiate boldly because it’s a way to screen out those that can’t read body language and social situations. I have great eye game and will make subtle hints, if you can’t pick up on that and ask me out properly, we’re not going to be a good fit and you won’t fit into my life well. The thing that broke one of my past relationships was that everything had to be spelled out for my ex and I had to tell him directly if I wanted something and I felt like he was never o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 12:12 AM
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Sorry to hear that. Listen, 2021/2022 is gonna be your year. It’s never too late for things to turn around and get better
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 06:11 PM
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Low key I’m glad everyone is mostly doing okay. Reading some of the comments make me concerned for the types of lives folks might be leading
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 02:27 PM
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Just curious, how many of you are happy with your life? I know a lot of the posts tend to be negative but I’d imagine It would be exhausting to be that level of miserable all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 02:49 AM
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Ah sorry, so you are correct; I’m throwing the term “fertilized” pretty carelessly. What I meant to say is that, plan B is not the same as an abortion because most people don’t see the egg as having life unless it is fertilized+attached. I could have been more specific there
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 01:02 PM
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Uhhh that’s not how plan B works. If the egg has already been fertilized, taking plan B is useless. Plan B is helpful because it prevents fertilization if it has not happened yet, which is why it’s more effective if you take it as soon as it’s happened. You’d still have to get an abortion if the egg was fertilized before you took the morning after pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 11:42 AM
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I have a question for you actually, how good are you at reading social situations and cues? Because a big part of approach success hinges on eye game. If you got good eye game, then you’ve significantly upped your success rate and you know that the other person has encouraged you to approach. Women tend to have great eye game and it’s very subtle. Same thing with body language, I’ve seen women retreat as soon as they sensed something changed in the dynamic- this is for romantic and social situat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 11:38 AM
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If I’m at work and the guy keeps talking or expects me to entertain him while I clearly have other customers/duties, I’m annoyed. I feel like I am a captive audience because he’s a customer/client/etc and I have to be polite even though by entertaining him, I’m falling behind on the work that actually matters. That being said, I’m someone who generally likes small talk when I’m not in the middle of something. The key is being able to read social cues. If she stops talking or gives one word answe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 01:43 AM
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I don’t know what you want me to say. Do you want me to be truthful or do you want me to lie and act open minded to make you feel better? It’s not that I treat people differently or think they’re below me, but class 100% matters, there’s no way around that. In my world some of this is on a scale- some of my friends’ families consider Cornell or Duke second tier schools for example but my parents think those are both solid schools. However, my parents would not be down for any kind of community c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 12:08 PM
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Nurses are not usually considered white collar but they are considered to be professionals
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:18 AM
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Depends. If he came from a “bad” family or didn’t go to the right school, there’s nothing he can do. Sounds harsh, but if he didn’t know how to act/dress for various social situations, I would not be dating him or introducing him to my parents. Like, maybe he’s a software engineer making bank but if he can’t fit into polite society or if he went to the wrong type of college, we wouldn’t be a good fit and he would not be accepted into my family or friend group
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:14 AM
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Literally when you grow up you realize no one cares whether you got surgery or not. People literally do not care about your life choices. Go get yourself fixed if that’s what you want. I know at least 2 or 3 guys that have gotten a nose job- they claimed they broke it playing soccer and it was reset but we all know that’s a lie. They all look better with the change. It’s literally never been an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 04:08 PM
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Yes. 2. No- looking back it was dumb as hell. I was dumb, he was dumb, all our friends were young and dumb. The whole thing seems silly in retrospect and I’m glad we grew up and didn’t end up together even though we swore we were gonna get married one day. 3. 24 4. Female
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:50 PM
3

Yep, definitely can relate. But it wasn’t the crying that disgusted me. It was that the tears were manipulative. It was shocking to me that the person I knew at least would cry, but only once he realized that things weren’t going to go his way. He always knew to stop crying once I gave in though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:11 AM
1

I think you’d be surprised at how many otherwise ordinary people have had plastic surgery. Nothing major, but just minor corrections. Those minor corrections make all the difference in the world. You’d have to be super super ugly for small minor changes to make no difference. Like even when I was in HS and college, I knew girls and boys that secretly got minor procedures to correct a crooked nose, part of their cheek/jaw, eyelids, etc. Obviously they just don’t tell anyone about it and chalk it …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:06 PM
3

This phenomenon of “being lied to” is especially puzzling to me because the implication is that women were not lied to, that they were taught “the truth”? All children were fed fairytales about love and how good always wins. Of course in real life, you will often see the worst people get ahead without any punishment. If you couldn’t figure this out, that’s on you. Everyone else hit a certain age and realized that maybe “you can be anything you want!” shouldn’t be taken literally. Similarly, most…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:23 AM
1

Ah, you’re reading this literally. Simply holding cash in your hands doesn’t make you hot. What I meant was, those with money that choose to spend that money on various treatments to improve appearances will be hotter. The reason why many affluent men aren’t hot is because they don’t feel the need to spend money on those things. If they wanted, they could spend money on hair treatments, personal trainers, chemical peels and creams, a better diet, better clothes, Botox, fillers, plastic surgery a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:05 AM
1

I find it strange that you would encourage women to put in less effort and then complain that women don’t look good. It kinda just sounds like you want women to naturally look good without putting in any effort at all. Here’s the hard truth- looking “naturally good” takes effort. That’s the same as saying guys don’t need to work out or eat well because women aren’t into super buff dudes. Maintaining a muscular but lean look still takes quite a bit of effort. And if you think ugly or average guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:01 AM
2

Lol. I’m not trying to get a guy to come consistently for sex. That’s worthless because any guy will come have sex with any woman that asks them over, even if they think she’s ugly. Appearances matter because it’s also tied into social standing. If I showed up wearing pajamas to a formal Christmas dinner with my boyfriend and his family, I will not be taken seriously as a romantic partner. It also is a bad reflection on me and my character. Furthermore, I’ve totally seen guys “pair up long term”…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 02:31 AM
1

I think we’re mostly agreeing? It’s expensive to be attractive. No one looks like a model spending $0 on their appearance, regardless of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:23 PM
2

To echo the sentiments of other men, there is a difference between being settled for and genuinely being desired. But also it’s important to take care of yourself for you, for social interactions and for your career. I mean, you can technically still get hired for an office job wearing jeans and a t-shirt to the interview. But I’m sure they’d be more eager to hire you if you came in with a suit and put some effort into your professional appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:50 PM
3

...do you think women also don’t suffer from bad teeth? Man, I got news for you. Being attractive, for both genders, is expensive
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:12 PM
2

As a woman, looking good is expensive. Most people don’t realize how expensive a haircut is, for example. Then you have regular maintenance for color (most blondes are not really that shade of blonde and even brunettes get their hair colored), perms, treatments, extensions, etc. You have to pay for a gym membership or personal trainer to keep the body trim. You need to be able to afford nutritious food, which tends to be more expensive. Then, you have clothes- clothes that are the right material…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 02:08 PM
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I don’t think it’s about strength. It’s about appearance. They say that they don’t want to date a smaller man because they don’t want to be stronger than him but this is code for “when I’m standing next to him, I don’t want to look big/fat. If I’m next to someone much taller and wider, I look skinny/petite in comparison.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 12:22 PM
5

How ugly is ugly? Because most people are not ugly. They’re just poor. Anyone can be hot if you have enough money. But let’s say you’re just average aka nothing particularly stands out, you’re just gonna have to bring something else whether that’s style, charm or talent and you need to play to your environment. That can influence attraction a lot. I’ve met some pretty homely looking guys dating fairly cute girls (not like a 3 dating a 10 but like a 6 with an 8) because they were really good at w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 12:17 PM
3

Not sure if this is region specific, but any sane woman would shut down a conversation from a stranger if you’re living in a big coastal city. Most young men won’t wanna talk to a stranger either
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 12:08 PM
2

As someone who spent a couple years in HK working, this is not at all how I would describe social interactions there. Is there great food culture and do people care about that? Absolutely. Do people congregate based on income/work background? Yes, but that’s because that’s typically how people meet. There’s classism and colorism like any other place in the world and much of it is because generally, you just don’t meet people unlike yourself in your day to day interactions. It’s not a bunch of pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:13 PM
1

Damn. I thought it was just me and my phone...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 12:24 AM
1

The point I’m trying to make is that it’s not based in sex but socialization. I think we’re actually agreeing. A grown man or grown woman would be equally incompetent when faced with an emergency situation if they were not trained adequately aka they were both coddled or they suffer from being taught helplessness
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 11:09 PM
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It’s about expectation and training. If you were coddled all your life and were never challenged or taught to react in dangerous situations like natural disasters, shootings, etc, you won’t know what to do. There’s also the expectation that you should or should not lead in certain situations; you might default to the expert in the room or who you assume is the expert in the room. If you go to psychiatric hospitals or detox centers where you have people out of their mind and being violent, you wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 12:59 AM
2

Zero. None of my friends have ever cheated. There was one guy that tried to cheat once and he was thrown out of the friend group as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 02:56 PM
13

I’m kind of in the middle. I think I’d be miserable with a guy that never wanted to try anything new or go anywhere or didn’t have any passion for his job. I’d be equally miserable with a guy that has no direction other than chasing fun and can’t be counted upon as a partner. I’d probably have to go on a few dates with type A before pursuing it further. With type B, I wouldn’t really bother going on a date at all because I don’t have time for people that don’t value me and just checks in and out…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 03:10 AM
11

I’m confused. Do I have anything in common with either of these guys? Like what’s the point of being with any of these guys if we don’t have the same values or anything in common
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 02:59 AM
7

It’s almost as if you have to be able to talk to people to find out whether they would ever like you back..
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 01:39 AM
5

10% based on the people I know in my community, acquaintances, stories from friends, etc. That seems like a small number until you realize that’s potentially one out of 10 of your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 01:42 AM
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If men feel like they’re being disadvantaged, they should file suit. Take a look at EEO complaints and employment related lawsuits- that’ll give you an indicator of what the workplace looks like. These filings are public. And yet...I don’t see as many lawsuits about men not being paid equally or being harassed at work or being forced out. Does it happen to some men? Absolutely. But you’ll see that a lot of workplace culture and policies harm women and people of color.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 04:20 PM
2

I literally have no opinion. Never factored in hair color alone. I think facial structure, style, whether they’re in shape, etc matters more for appearances
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 02:12 AM
3

You realize 125 doesn’t make you a genius, right? Like I got officially tested and I’m 127- so like I qualifies for the “talented and gifted” program as a kid like everyone else. We all grew up to be very normal adults. The most intelligent people I’ve met know how to socialize and talk to their audience. Watch the biggest CEOs and PMs, all Ivy League educated and all, give interviews. The biggest names know how to break down complicated concepts and tell a story; they know how to be relatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 02:04 AM
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That “set up” is super important. Actually, more important than the actual action itself I think. The anticipation and build up in these types of stories are what are appealing. Compare this to porn, which is often unnecessarily graphic, leaves nothing to the imagination and has no anticipation or build up. It’s not surprising to me that erotica or romance is more popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 01:57 AM
2

Part of it is being chosen, but more so, I’d say this is n extension of the “Romeo and Juliet” fantasy. The whole plot revolves around love that overcomes the challenge of living in different worlds. Vampire vs human; sadistic rich dude vs meek, boring, poor girl. The woman learns to adapt to the new world and seeks acceptance while the guy is willing to sacrifice his entire world for her. It wouldn’t be the same fantasy if they were both plain humans living on the same block. It’s the same reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 03:24 PM
4

In general, women and men should have more dignity and respect for themselves. You shouldn’t have to convince someone to love you or be attracted to you. It’s not a game where if you hit the right combination of buttons, you can “win” and change someone’s mind. I’ve never seen a marriage where one party had to convince the other person, end happily.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 03:04 PM
1

Disagree- this depends on the field that they’re in. But also if they suddenly have a quarter life crisis and decide to switch careers completely. One of my friends had a stable job, really polite nice guy, had his stuff together by the time he was like 25 and then he decided to quit everything and move to Texas to be a musician. My other friend was in consulting and also had her life together, then she turned 24 and then quit everything to go back to school to try to be a nurse. Many of my frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 01:34 PM
3

It’s a damn shame. There’s no stability anywhere. Imagine the kind of stress that would put on a serious relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 03:37 AM
5

I think what really changed is that you can no longer count on that money coming down the road. People in my father’s generation stayed at one company and pretty much had guaranteed raises and annual bonuses. Getting married didn’t come with as much financial anxiety. Getting married in your early 20s today when the two of you haven’t worked out a proper career path and don’t have savings is just a poor financial decision in this era. Id say part of why marriage is getting delayed is that it’s t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 03:29 AM
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Personally? It’s not just being attractive, values matter, lifestyle matters, whether our careers line up matter. When you decide to marry and live with someone, you’re committing to all the tiny things too. If he works nights and I work 9-5s, we’ll never have time together. Maybe you can get by on that new relationship energy for a while, but you’d become resentful at how inconvenient it is. If I think it’s not going to work from the very beginning, I’m not going to waste their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 03:11 AM
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It’s not just guys that are “invisible” but otherwise good, it’s ALL guys. People want women to give ALL guys a chance. “It’s just one date, why wouldn’t you say yes? He deserves one date.” It doesn’t matter if they have a bad track record- “he’s changed! Dont people deserve second chances?” It doesn’t matter if you have nothing in common- “people grow to love each other!” Society in general wants to see women paired up and having children, they don’t really care if the woman or the man in the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 02:55 AM
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You’re 23. That’s a very appropriate number of partners to have. Do you think most 23 year olds have had 50 different partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 11:50 PM
3

So what you’re telling me is that aesthetic does matter! PPD will scream until they’re blue in the face that “natural looks,” not styling or clothes or showering is all that matters but you’re saying that’s not true. That if you want to match up with a certain type of person and have a certain type of relationship, curating your aesthetic probably matters the most
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 02:45 PM
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They literally look the same? But if you want to “reward” certain types of behaviors and certain types of style/aesthetic, why would you constantly put one on a pedestal. If being provocative gets more attention and more praise with many labeling one as the “dream woman,” how can you be surprised when others try and emulate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 12:36 PM
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For women, “be hot” seems to be the rule but styling seems to matter a lot in how people treat you. Zooey Deshanel and Katy Perry look almost like twins and had the height of their careers around the same time. Yet, Katy Perry was the one all the guys talked about and fantasized about? Like, if people are really into “good girl” virginal types, wouldn’t the male population show a much larger preference to the quirky girl next door persona? Clearly, being a bit edgier and provocative will get you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 03:25 AM
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Proximity to other people who also want casual sex and have similar values/personality Fitting the popular trope for your audience, so they can project their fantasies on to you. In this case, styling and what you don’t say is more important. Be hotter than the guys standing next to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 02:05 AM
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No. I would never use sex appeal or attractiveness in an argument. Women know who’s attractive and who’s not. This is the equivalent of arguing with a bald guy and saying “well, I have hair!” We all already know and it’s stupid. Never in a million years. But also, it’s more important to be perceived as pretty to other women than to men in a scenario like this I think. Being appealing to men doesn’t hold that much weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:32 PM
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I’m pretty, but none of my friends or I talk like this because it’s trashy af. If your only appeal is that people wanna stick it in you, you’re just trashy and that’s not all that special. I feel like a winner when I can walk away because I already have it all and there is nothing I envy about the other person but the other person envies me. I don’t need to steal another woman’s man, that says more about the man than the woman. But if the woman would do anything to trade places with me...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:45 PM
1

It’s not that I think I’m a unique snowflake. It’s that I think this “study” is flimsy. First, does it not concern you that it’s quite likely that it’s a bunch of the same people hopping off and then on again to the site so that the same people are counted multiple times? And then again, it doesn’t say anything about gender ratio and their ages for example. What if you don’t have a normal distribution of men? Or a normal distribution of women? Also this 2017 graph doesn’t answer any questions ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:41 PM
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Tbh, this makes the most sense to me if you want to stick with 80/20 numbers to a T.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 03:20 AM
3

First, I refuse to believe that half of all single people of all ages and equally distributed male and female are actively on OkCupid at any one time. How does that make sense? But let’s say half of all single people in the US are actively on OkCupid, how old are these people? Because if all the women in this pool are in the age range of 18-24 looking to date someone in their age range and 75% of the men are aged 50+, of course there’s not gonna be an even distribution in preference. People woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 03:02 AM
2

Well, some studies suggest that the “average” face is most attractive to most people. As in, an artificially created image that mashes up a bunch of different faces to create an “average face.” Others suggest that mating with those with more average features, as in more common/modal features that are not extreme, may protect from unusual mutations (see Koinophilia in animals). There is also a cultural component in that humans tend to like what’s familiar. Repeated exposure can result in increase…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 09:35 PM
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This doesn’t make any sense because several factors go into what makes someone attractive and those preferences sometimes overlap among groups of women and sometimes they do not. Some traits may have strong correlation to other traits whereas in some cases there is little to no correlation at all. Also not all of them are quantifiable. So you’re taking a bunch of factors, some of which can be measured and some of which can’t, and then you’re creating some arbitrary score where a high score is as…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 08:02 PM
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I don’t know. I guess my friends and I just don’t do a lot of activities where we’re standing around right next to each other. But yeah, if I ran in a group where my friends and I talked about height a lot, I guess I would notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:49 PM
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Why is that crazy? If you have a bell curve for size, most people would choose something close to the median if they themselves ahem are of median size. What I’m less convinced about is when 80/20 is slapped onto things that are less measurable and less comparable. You can compare size, that’s apples to apples and if all the women are of a similar size, they probably have similar “fit” preferences. But how about things like human preferences to geometric shape? You’re telling me that if you show…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:38 PM
0

How often are you seen standing right next to other men? I can’t think of many instances where I had my boyfriend in any kind of line up. But also, I don’t tend to compare his height to others. His height matters relative to my own. Oh also, I guess height relative to weight also matters/proportions matter a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:15 PM
3

That doesn’t explain anything. I’m familiar with the Pareto principle. But this is a model based on some broad observations. A model isn’t truth and people forget that. Furthermore, a model, when used, comes with certain assumptions and those assumptions must be clear. You can’t just slap a random model on any scenario without clarifying what the assumptions are and say this is truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:52 PM
2

Idk. Taller than me? Probably like 5’9 or 5’10
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:49 PM
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Did you read my comment? Someone my height. A woman that is 5’9 will most definitely be able to tell the difference between a guy that is 5’8 and a guy that is 5’10.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:48 PM
1

I find this 80/20 thing to be confusing because it doesn’t specify how large the population is. Is that 20% of all men that I pass on a daily basis? 20% of males that exist in the world, regardless of age or culture? It’s a load of crap. If I worked at a male modeling agency, I guarantee that I will find a lot more than 20% attractive. If I worked at a nursing home, that number plummets to 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:27 PM
1

No idea about percentage but I’m 5’3. I’d rather have someone average height around 5’9 than someone over 6’1. Also I think the height thing is mostly a joke or a status thing. I highly doubt someone my height is gonna notice if someone is 5’10 vs 6’1. Anyone over 5’8 just gets lumped into “tall.” Have you tried to hold hands with someone super short or super tall? It’s very uncomfortable and not practical.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:18 PM
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Just FYI, if you’re always feeling used in friendships, it might be because you need to set stronger boundaries and not over invest. If you’re over investing, you’re gonna feel used, regardless of gender. Do not be over eager, simply match their energy. If you’re the only one making an effort, it means the other person sees this as a much more casual friendship than you do. Most casual friends will peace out as soon as something or someone more interesting comes along
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 04:27 AM
2

Ding ding ding. There are only so many hours in a day. My female friends will be absorbed with a new boyfriend and disappear for a month or two. Once they’re settled in, we’ll hang out more frequently but not as much as before as now they’re splitting their time. Same thing with my male friends. If the relationship seems solid enough eventually we all just hang as a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 04:09 AM
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You’re crazy. Sanjay Gupta has been my TV crush since I was like 15. He’s got a great smile
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:27 PM
1

I think everyone should use makeup. I dated a model for a bit and he definitely took good care of his skin and wore a bit some days- not a lot, very natural and just enough to clean up. I highly recommend it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 04:01 AM
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How about Sanjay Gupta- neurosurgeon, journalist and beloved TV personality. Also very very handsome. Mairead Corrigan- Nobel Peace prize winner and quite charming looking if you ask me. I’d also argue that age takes a toll on most people and most great discoveries and great works are achieved in old age. I’m sure many of these intelligent people that we remember were much better looking in their youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 08:38 PM
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Idk what these folks have been watching. There was always a pretty boy that was charismatic and popular with women pitted against a boring or neurotic nobody through the ages. Fight Club, Drake and Josh, Sixteen Candles, etc. even more recently we had a handsome, carefree and charismatic Duke in Bridgerton pitted against a nice, but unexciting prince. Even 500 Days of Summer gives you a male protagonist that projected all of his feelings way too fast onto a girl and how that kind of try-hard and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 05:58 PM
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Idk. I’ve had several guys and boyfriends tell me that they’re bringing me because it helps them make a better impression and that they want to show me off. Going so far as to recommend outfits that they like seeing me in and adding comments like “they were all checking you out.” Not all men...but definitely some men do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 05:08 PM
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It’s considered rude to talk extensively about your field of expertise if it is not relatable to everyone. Most people also find it rude for you to ramble on about a particular subject because especially in a group setting, you will be more likely to be seen as condescending and a “know it all.” I know quite a bit about certain subjects but I often will wait until I am asked to weigh in. Some of my friends are published and accomplished academics, but they rarely talk about their work because it…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 05:37 AM
1

Expectation for sure, but that does not mean I do not enjoy it. I like feeling feminine and it comes naturally to me. I take it as a point of pride and also a hobby. It’s also a good investment as I know that I need to be good at it if I want life to be easier and if I want people to be nicer to me. I’ve been hyper aware of attractiveness, since the early age of 5. But also I was in dance and cheerleading since I was 6 so that might be part of it too. As for my mother, she was very hands off and…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 02:26 AM
3

I’ll play. Female. ENFP. Extraversion: 90, stability: 52, agreeableness: 91, conscientiousness: 26, imagination: 88.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 05:58 AM
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Kind of. Certain movie tropes mostly. It’s actually horrible how well it works. Everyone likes identifiers and labels though so I can see why it works; I’m guilty of it too. Certain guys really really like the whole manic pixie dream girl thing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 03:15 PM
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I wouldn’t call it propaganda. My friends and I always went for very average guys in our class. Personality definitely mattered even when I was like 13. I thought so and so was “so deep” because he read classic literature or this other guy was “dreamy” because he volunteered with animals, etc. I don’t think any of my friends chased “fuckbois” on purpose. The boys that were fuckbois earned the name because they were dishonest about their intentions or took certain actions, not because they were h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 07:09 PM
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I’ll answer this from my perspective. When I was in middle/early high school, my friends and I definitely had sleepovers and read these trashy articles. We read dumb advice like how to keep him/seduce him/10 signs he likes you/how to kiss like a pro etc because we were young and had no experience. But by the time most of our peers started dating we realized it was crap, mostly just by observing interactions. You also just naturally realize by the time you graduate that you cannot use magazine ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 06:49 PM
1

Sounds about right. I watched Nick and Norah’s infinite playlist as a pre-teen and decided Michael Cera was the type I liked. Then I quickly got into random CW shows and decided that “mysterious and brooding” was also kinda cute. Thank god I grew out of that phase of trying to identify boys that resembled existing characters
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 10:54 PM
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Straight up? Like 80% But don’t interpret it this as 80% of attraction is positively influenced by clothing. Interpret this as a screener. My attraction tends to subtract more than add and most of the disqualifications come from clothes. Your 6 pack abs don’t matter to me if I am embarrassed to be seen with you. There will be some positive feelings associated to those that go above and beyond with style. I have taken a second look at a guy or turned around because his clothes were good and I wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 10:36 PM
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