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I think it depends on what school of thought you are from. I belong to a blog where people are 100% 'mystey method' and believe that if you didn't get the girl, you made a mistake. They believe that you should be able to pull 100% of the girls you approach...no excuses. The newer thinking from RSD and Mark Manson etc implies that if a girl rejects you, you didn't necessarily do anything 'wrong'. She just wasn't into you. That 'game' isn't some sort of 'black magic' jedi mind trick. You rock up, …
/r/seduction27/07/17 06:53 PM
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He doesn't come across as lacking in confidence, really. Compare his approaches with someone like Frank from pickupdecoded who teaches this shit, and this guy actually sounds more confident and relaxed than Frank who speaks super fast and seems kind of nervous at times. It's just that looks DO matter!! I can't believe some people think it's all about using magic pua skillz to make any girl want to fuck you, lol. She needs to be at least somewhat physically attracted to you otherwise you will not…
/r/seduction23/07/17 03:03 PM
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it might not be as uncommon as you think to try and try and never get any results. If you read pickup forums on rooshv and rsd, you'll see lots of journals lasting for years with guys failing to get any attraction. Usually they end up going to the Philipenes or somewhere. Even here, for example there's this guy who I gather has been at it for quite a while and writes FR's , trying to implement the advice given to him. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/6oqqdd/couple_of_direct_approaches…
/r/seduction22/07/17 10:12 AM
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haha! this sub has gone to shit with the 'advice' people give
/r/seduction18/07/17 01:31 PM
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This! hundred times this, lol You done fine with the approaches, OP. Posting FR's here is dangerous, because you just get lots of vague 'advice' from people who massively contradict each other, and your head ends up spinning! And most of the people aren't any 'better' than you. They are either better looking, or they live in a place where cold approach is socially normal
/r/seduction18/07/17 12:28 PM
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I guess the previous 3 or so girls in his FR were 'no girls'? Before I die, I want to see someone somehow hypnotise a girl with 'game' and get a 'no girl'!! :)
/r/seduction30/01/17 01:08 PM
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So you're saying you approach a hot teenager in a club, smile at her, and open her in a friendly/fun way. She looks you up and down, rolls her eyes and says ''Sorry. I'm not interested. Bye!'' and turns around. I'm not sure it's possible to recover from that, really. If she's not interested, she's not interested. Game is really just charisma. You can't MAKE girls attracted to you
/r/seduction28/01/17 06:10 PM
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If the woman cuts you off before you even get a word out of your mouth, then of course you won't get a chance to run game on her. But that's a very different scenario from running game on her, and having it not work. Sure, but the problem is that in order for you to even be able to 'run your game on her' she has to be interested in you enough to not shut you down after you open. In club environments especially, a girl will look at you as you open, and if she thinks ''he's ugly'', she'll be incli…
/r/seduction28/01/17 03:22 PM
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Dude, this is the whole point of game. Seducing women who are not initially attracted to you is the main objective of PUA as a whole I'd disagree and say the main point is to convince girls who are already at least mildly attracted to sleep with you. It's why people say ''it's a numbers game''. Read field reports and you see ''I opened her, but she said 'sorry, not interested' and didn't want to hear what I had to say anymore''. People will say ''That's OK! Go approach the next girl.'' That impl…
/r/seduction28/01/17 02:51 PM
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I think it's possible, but it's pretty difficult. The real issue is being able to 'game' girls who aren't instantly into you the second they lay their eyes on you, especially if they ignore you or just like put their hand in your face and are like ''Sorry, not interested!!'' It seems that when it comes to cold approach, if she's not attracted to your looks, you don't really have a shot and are often not given the opportunity to even have a shot. However, I think with things like social circle ga…
/r/seduction28/01/17 12:59 PM
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How best to act like a dick and act superior? What sort of things would you say? Say, approaching a girl at a bar.
/r/seduction28/01/17 12:48 AM
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When it comes to attracting girls, it's natural to base your confidence on your looks. If a girl looks at you and thinks ''Yuk! He's ugly!!'' then your chances of pulling her are probably close to zero no matter how good you think your 'game is! I see barely any infields where a guy is able to 'turn it around'. It seems to be mainly a numbers game to ''find the girl who thinks i'm handsome and then pull her'' You can be confident in other things, of course. Maybe a guy is confident because he's …
/r/seduction27/01/17 09:56 AM
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how do you get shy girls to 'open up' on a cold approach? Sometimes I approach gorgeous girls. They basically don't even speak back to me no matter how friendly I try to be. (I assume they are just shy, but I guess they could just think that i'm hideous to looks at and so don't want to encourage me by talking to me!). Let's go with 'shy' for now to protect my ego It happened as recently as last week. I opened her with a gentle/friendly tease about the coat she was wearing. She half smiled, made …
/r/seduction26/01/17 04:32 PM
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It's cool that you approach guys! I don't think I've ever seen a girl in my social group approach a random guy, although I have seen random girls who I don't know approach my very very handsome friends! lucky bastards! :) But, yeah. It shatters the ego. I've probably had about 500 rejections in the last 6 months or so!! ouchy!!
/r/seduction26/01/17 04:28 PM
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Splash of 'brut'
/r/seduction26/01/17 12:42 PM
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They have nothing to be nervous about, really. Men try to remind themselves to be 'outcome independent' and tell ourselves ''We are the prize!!''...''Abundance mentality!!!!!'' (even if they are virgins) etc etc, whereas girls ACTUALLY do have complete abundance! :) They don't need to meditate and look in the mirror in the morning and say ''I have abundance...''I have abundance...'' They just know this because guys approach them and 'like' their pics and give compliments/show sexual interest in …
/r/seduction26/01/17 09:47 AM
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Life is one big trade off! I have lots of friends who all earn different kinds of money and have drastically different lives. One of them is a premier league footballer earning about 3 million per year. He's about the happiest person I know, but then who wouldn't be happy playing your favourite sport for crazy money! I actually PAY MONEY to play football, lol Some of them are just guys who done well in college and earn maybe 120k(GBP) or so and are still in their 20's, but my God, they don't hav…
/r/seduction25/01/17 07:50 PM
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I just kind of feel as though it should ALWAYS be possible to at least get a girl to say something. I'm not sure whether I done something 'wrong' and should blame myself for her lack of interest in even talking to me, or whether there was literally nothing I could have done to get her to give me a shot. (maybe due to her personality/aversion to talking to strangers, or my physical appearance turned her off lots etc etc) The actual words you open with apparently don't matter, so I can stop worryi…
/r/seduction23/01/17 03:02 PM
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She reacted like a Brit! (one word answers, shy) So so so different from your interactions with US girls. You Yanks have no idea how lucky you are to have girls that are so social and happy to speak with strangers!
/r/seduction20/01/17 10:14 AM
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apparently what you say doesn't matter, so it can't be that? You could just only ever answer her questions with the name of a vegetable, and only ask questions about her shoes and nothing else since they say that what you say doesn't matter (it's how you say it)
/r/seduction20/01/17 10:12 AM
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Even though people say that what you say doesn't matter, i'd be interested in a kind of script of how the interaction went. Personally, when a girl tells me she has BF, i'm basically out. I don't really see it as a 'shit test'. And regarding the after effects/social media, I'd just be like ''whatever. I approached a girl because I thought she was hot. SHE was a bit awkward and had a BF so I left, and then she got all weird, stalking me on social media and trying to make a story out of nothing. W…
/r/seduction20/01/17 10:08 AM
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I'd kind of like to take a bootcamp because I imagine it could be very useful to have someone actually watching you and able to give you proper feedback on mistakes that you might be unaware of yourself. Without outside feedback, I bet it's possible to be making the same mistakes and getting nowhere for years and years since there's just endless variables. However, the prices are RIDICULOUS! I think it's a huge liberty. I think Keiza Noble charges abour 5k for example!! So i'll probably never ta…
/r/seduction20/01/17 09:48 AM
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I'm actually a fan of this noobthoughts guy and think some of his daygame stuff looks impressive, but on this occasion I have too agree with you. This really isn't that impressive. Just a horny guy begging a drunk girl for a quick kiss who then can't get away fast enough. I'm awful with girls, and even I can manage to do this semi-regularly!
/r/seduction18/01/17 11:40 PM
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I like your post, but this line ''Dude I am like 5'5 and I have a big ass. Not particularly good looking in general....I can steal a 10+ from the type of guys you are talking about'' DID make me cringe! :) - not gonna lie. Ain't no average looking 5'5'' guy stealing no tens from the male model guys who I used to hang out with. Trust me. Girls would literally drool and physically fight over some of them, lol. Anyway, my view is that outer-game does need to be spoken about more. If it was all abou…
/r/seduction18/01/17 12:13 AM
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You're almost describing me, although i'm trying to dig out of the hole! I approach girls and am not ready to give up! :) But to answer your question, I'd say it's a complete lack of confidence with girls and probably some sort of social anxiety. If someone looks in the mirror and sees a physically unattractive person, it's so hard to try to project confidence! To even implement the 'assume attraction' midset or, for example, accuse a stunning girl of flirting with you in a bar would make one fe…
/r/seduction16/01/17 02:23 PM
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thanks for replying. It was basically down to money. The cab home on my own would have cost about £50. But splitting it with my friends it costs less than £10. If I had have pulled her in my home town, i'd almost certainly have stayed with her, Or, if she was as hot as hell and still in the different town, i'd also have likely stayed with her and then just have stayed in for a few weeks to save money or borrowed money from friends or something! Yeah, the conversation thing drives me mad. In the …
/r/seduction16/01/17 09:03 AM
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Sometimes Todd makes me cringe a bit. ''Hi. I saw you and you looked utterly charming and I wanted to check whether you were as friendly as you are enchanting bla bla'' kind of thing. Some of his lines make me want to throw up, however, maybe that's what works! He definitely knows lots about game and he's smart. No doubt. I also like how he is fairly 'outer game' focused. He believes what you say DOES matter and goes against lots of the 'inner game is all you need' guys. I think Vadim from hones…
/r/seduction15/01/17 12:23 PM
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I'm guessing the 'we both had room for improvement' line was referring to both of your pool skills!? You should maybe have gone for the kiss, although I know it's super difficult when your kino seems to have been rejected, but maybe would have been worth a shot at that point in the night?
/r/seduction07/01/17 07:35 PM
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thanks. I think sometimes I incorrectly assume that I have more control over the interaction than I actually do. Probably a result of a certain pua forum I read where everyone brags in a way to suggest that 'game' is some sort of black magic, and if you fail to pull, you done something wrong. When girls are 'uninterested', I tend to think ''what should I have said/done in order to 'seduce' her and MAKE her interetsed??''
/r/seduction07/01/17 06:36 PM
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I know what you're saying, but I try not to go into it with that mindset. My theory is based simply upon 400+ approaches I've made since starting trying to learn pickup. It's more or less the only thing I've noticed in terms of patterns. So, if you open 'normally' (hey, i'm jack) I should instantly tease her about something? Is there always something obvious to tease her about at such an early stage? What do you tease girls about after opening? (I often can't think of anything unless she 'gives'…
/r/seduction07/01/17 04:24 PM
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thanks. Yeah, I felt the first one went well. With the second one, it felt off from the start, but maybe It would have been a completely different interaction if I had have opened with some sort of 'fun' routine/opener like in the 1st set? The sets nearly ALWAYS go bad if I open In a 'non -crazy' way. (like just saying 'hey, I'm jack'' or whatever) and then asking her a question about herself
/r/seduction07/01/17 02:00 PM
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what should I have said, then? And with the second girl, you mean tried too hard because I asked her questions? What should I have said/done? be specific. cheers
/r/seduction07/01/17 10:25 AM
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So we must experiment with different openers and stuff? Using kino earlier or later in the interaction? What sort of things should we 'change' if we get no results, but have no idea why?
/r/seduction07/01/17 09:18 AM
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I think that only works later in the conversation and if the girl is into you. When starting a conversation with a hot girl, if there is any silence (no matter how comfortable with it you are) she WILL just go and find another guy to talk too who is hot and fun! It's why people like that noobthoughs guy are so good. He has a motormouth and has the abililty to just ramble on and on until something hooks. I don't have that skill and can't seem to develop it
/r/seduction06/01/17 04:31 PM
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Nothing can rival college life! If you are a good looking guy in college, you will be banging the hottest girls in the PRIME of their lives! Non stop partying and socialising. Opportunity for HUGE social circles which leads to much easier pickups than approaching complete strangers in bars etc I think the best way to get close as you get older, is to go travelling! My friend is in his 30's and went travelling around the world in hostels and had sex with LOTS of teenagers. (he is very handsome in…
/r/seduction05/01/17 09:37 AM
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but I do feel like mine have always been the result of the girl having that idea before the date really. That's kind of my issue with 'game' in a way! I think maybe we attribute too much of our success to 'game' when really, the girl just wanted to have sex with us before we opened our mouths! They say that on a date, the guy wonders whether he'll get lucky....but the girl already knows!
/r/seduction05/01/17 09:29 AM
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So, Do you tend to open very directly, or at least tell them that you like them (think they're cute) very soon after the open in the event that you open indirectly? And can you talk a little about how you beat you GA/SA (anxieties). I've been unable to truly beat it for 30 years, and it plays a bit part in my constant failure, i'd imagine. One idea is that 'game' is really just about being relaxed and charismatic which are very hard to do when every ounce of your energy is being spent by your bo…
/r/seduction05/01/17 09:24 AM
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Never had a date in my 29 years! The idea terrifies me more than cold approaching a girl at a bar or whatever! It's like there's no escape for when I run out of things to say, or just for when it gets super awkward or whatever, lol
/r/seduction04/01/17 05:20 PM
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other than trying to be funny and touching her, what else do you think he should have done to 'build attraction'? cheers
/r/seduction04/01/17 08:11 AM
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She was so fun and bubbly and chill! The whole culture of talking to strangers is amazing in the US! I'm super jealous and wish I lived there growing up! Great job, though. This guy seems to get a hard time here from what I've seen. Not sure why. He seems brilliant to me, but maybe I've missed something? (for example, I know lots of PUA's have been found out to be faking infields) He says himself that he seems to often break the ''don't be needy'' rule. I've seen a number of his vids where he co…
/r/seduction03/01/17 10:47 PM
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I mean, I did listen. That's why I replied with something to do with her job, but my brain didn't come up with anything better, unfortunately. I can think of some better replies now, but the moment has unfortunately gone. It seems that when I open with something 'off the wall', then we can banter and vibe and have a fun conversation basically ABOUT my opener (assuming she plays along with the opener), but otherwise, it all tends to feel a bit flat and serious/boring.
/r/seduction03/01/17 10:18 AM
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yeah, probably wasn't an ideal open, but then they always say it doesn't matter what you say. Was just the first/only thing that came into my head at the time, though
/r/seduction03/01/17 10:17 AM
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seduction techniques work which ones work in your experience?
/r/seduction02/01/17 11:11 PM
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whilst improving your life is always good advice, I don't think it's as clear cut as that when it comes to success WITH WOMEN. It doesn't really seem to 'transfer' I have so many friends who have brilliant jobs who never ever ever get laid, and I have other friends who have never had a job apart from maybe deal drugs who spend their days playing ps3 in their late 20's, and they get laid non freaking stop.
/r/seduction02/01/17 10:07 PM
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when I don't show obvious signs of interest, I am always friendzoned, or the girls just dissappear, and I then start regretting not being very upfront verbally (like that noobthoughts PUA guy) and just being like ''I think you're super hot! Lets go out on a date!'' kind of thing
/r/seduction19/12/16 04:00 PM
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I guess it could be a troll, but who knows! It could be possible. I sometimes think that I could be in that situation at some point an i'm not a troll! haha. I'm on about 500 approaches. 6 months in. One very lucky lay. Two makeouts. 497 rejections! There was also someone on rooshv forums who started a thread claiming to have made 10,000 approaches with no luck and everyone called him a troll and assumed he'd dissappear soon, but it ended up being a really popular thread and the guy was actually…
/r/seduction19/12/16 01:51 PM
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Yeah, I think I know what you mean about the confusion about what opening 'direct' actually means ; I think Lots of people assume 'direct' = telling the girl she is cute/hot/whatever and nothing else. But as you say, it doesn't really matter too much how you open a girl, and so there is nothing necessarily 'wrong' with opening in the way that lots of PUA's do (''Hi, noticed you, thought you were hot'') etc. I guess it's just my opinion that no matter how smooth/non-awkward/good your game/perfect…
/r/seduction16/12/16 04:15 PM
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You shouldn't be getting girls responding to your opener or your very approach by telling you no or that they have a BF, etc Sure you should, if you open direct. Obviously if you open them by asking for the time they wouldn't 'reject' you until they realise you want to take get their number or something. But about half of the pickup community advocate 'direct game' (especially in day game) and so it's natural for a girl to reply with 'no thanks, I have a boyfriend' or something if she's not inte…
/r/seduction15/12/16 12:40 PM
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Agreed. I always wonder who downvotes FRs like this one that are actually detailed and interesting. I think we need more FR's like this
/r/seduction02/12/16 04:25 PM
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ha, this was me on a night out a few weeks back. I've been getting so down about my lack of any success that I decided to really experiment and approach every girl I saw and try different kinds of openers etc! (no luck, unfortunately) It didn't go unnoticed, and a few people who I kind of know who I didn't even know were there gave me a bit of light-hearted ribbing the next time I saw them! (along the lines of 'was there any girl that you didn't try to chat up last weekend??) Feels bad, dave!
/r/seduction18/10/16 04:09 PM
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I just hit on these 2 girls sitting down, and started talking to the one I wanted. I soon realised her friend was being left out, so I started asking her some questions and she told me she was engaged, but all the time I was asking her question about her wedding and shit, I was occasionally looking at the target and smiling, and occasionally rubbing her arm or something. Then later, when the friend left, she kind of encouraged her friend to stay with me, which is fairly unusual.
/r/seduction07/10/16 10:25 AM
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Talking about middle eastern politics or string theory is not going to get you laid which was kind of the point of the post. But the consensus is that if you talk about eastern politics or sting theory in a certain way, then you'll be banging that night What topics/conversations do you think increase your odds the best?
/r/seduction06/10/16 05:44 PM
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I was escalating with HB8 and maintaining conversation with HB5 at the same time. ha. I done that on my first ever ONS. I was so out of my depth, but her friend ended up helping me in a way! Regarding the escalating you done at this stage, can you be more specific? What you said / did Sometimes escalation can feel very forced and clunky, and sometimes it feels natural. I like to hear others descriptions
/r/seduction06/10/16 04:40 PM
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How DO you say 'it', though? Walk up to a girl and say ''hi, i'm jack. What's up'' (The perfect opener since what you say doesn't actually matter) HOW do you say it, though so that it qualifies as 'good'? Might be hard to do over text, but try. Or give me another sentence for mid conversation if you can think of a better example to explain 'HOW'
/r/seduction06/10/16 04:24 PM
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Dude, I wish I knew! I imagine it's very similar to 'Chav' girls here in the UK. SOme of them are as hot as shit! Bad attitudes etc, but super hot and i'd love to bone some of them, but they tend to only let guys from their social circle (other guys who live on benefits and deal drugs and are in and out of jail etc) bang them! I've had some brutal rejections from these types of girls, and i've experimented in so many ways! Being nice on the open, being forward/aggressive, teasing them, being lai…
/r/seduction27/09/16 03:13 PM
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expand on 'routine' for me, out of interest. I've always tried to be very 'natural', but routines are something that I want to look into a bit more to see if they can help with my sticking points (they are generally given a bad name on seddit from what i've seen). What is your general 'routine', in brief?
/r/seduction27/09/16 02:01 PM
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these guys are your work mates at the bar or customers? And you mean your success changed as a result of being around these people on nights out since you all shared the same goal? (so easier to approach girls and have wingmen etc)?
/r/seduction27/09/16 01:35 PM
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UK - Outside of London (in between London and Brighton)
/r/seduction27/09/16 01:26 PM
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get like minded friends This is honestly one of my biggest hurdles at the moment - I realised the other night when I was out just how much harder it is in a group of a few guys who all feel unworthy of talking to hot girls (despite all 3 of them earning mega bucks with amazing jobs!!) Pretty much all of my friends have settled down now, and the only other single guys (who i go out with) have given up on girls, basically. They are very 'looks are all that matter, and i'm not handsome, so screw it…
/r/seduction27/09/16 11:14 AM
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I kind of feel as though I don't neccesarily 'learn' or get any better after lots of approaches. I know that people say that's how you get better, but if you never really know what you done good or bad since there's just an infinite number of variables, it can be difficult! Did you have a good interaction with that girl because you made stong eye contact in the beginning? Or was it because of that funny line you said just after teh open? Or was it just because you felt very relaxed? Or was it be…
/r/seduction27/09/16 08:49 AM
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ouch - That hurts! Could it be that she just sees you as a very 'safe' guy who she can be comfortable around half naked as she assumes you won't pounce on her? I'm not hating, though. I had an experience once with a girl most guys would consider a '10'. She was the girl every single guy in school had a crush on, and she was topless on my bed. However, she was in that position because she fancied the pants off of my very good looking mate and it was teh 3 of is drunk in my house. My friend who sh…
/r/seduction27/09/16 08:43 AM
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The art of conversation and never running out of things to say is something that, in my mind, could still be covered better. Most people just talking about 'threading' and the use of assumptions. Threading can be hard as hell of the girls isn't 'giving you much' and assumptions can 'run out' pretty soon unless you start guessing weird things about them which might make you look a bit odd? I dunno - sometimes I watch an infield, and it'll go quiet for a second, and then the pickup guy will just s…
/r/seduction26/09/16 10:18 PM
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All good then, old bean!
/r/seduction26/09/16 10:11 PM
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Kudos on being brave. I'm useless at pickup so take what I say with a pinch of salt, but just outright asking for a date as your opener is unlikely to ever work unless you look like a young Tom Welling!
/r/seduction26/09/16 10:06 PM
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They might not be lying in fairness. I'm similar to the OP in that i've had very little success with girls over the years, but lots of my friends pull left and right and tell me their tales - most of which I can basically confirm as i've been there when it's clearly been 'on'! Some of them are just exceptionally good looking and girls approach them and they really can't mess it up unless they literally puked on the girl in the bar or something! When a girl thinks you are gorgeous, they think eve…
/r/seduction26/09/16 10:03 PM
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what's the 33 year olds method? Is he handsome? Lots of game? Does he just approach the girl he likes and introduce himself and then asks if he can hang with them or something ? I can't really imagine how it'd work? Help me get a picture in my head.
/r/seduction24/09/16 01:59 PM
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where do you live/do this? Another one is becoming a holiday rep somewhere like ibiza/magaluf. I know a guy (VERY handsome in fairness, but still) who has banged nearly 400 young girls from working out there every year since a young age. He's like 30 now and still banging gorgeous 16 year olds!
/r/seduction24/09/16 10:50 AM
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this is how loads of the guys on rooshv forum get laid with teenagers from what i gather
/r/seduction24/09/16 09:33 AM
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I've been wondering about 'routines' a bit recently. Too often I approach a girl, I concentrate on body language, deliver my opener as well as possible, and then, if i'm very lucky, she responds with a one word answer or a smile or something. Now I have to start a converation with her and at thsi point, whatever I say is usually not good enough to keep her interested. The only way I seem to be able to avoid this, is if I open in a certain way so as to get her laughing or completely invested in t…
/r/seduction23/09/16 08:32 PM
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cool. cheers
/r/seduction23/09/16 04:14 PM
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how did the conversation go after she said 'thank you'? Be as detailed as possible, as i'm curious ps - good job
/r/seduction23/09/16 03:10 PM
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First off, if she isn't offering anything, that isn't your problem Kind of glad to hear that be said, But then isn't is common for girls to 'offer nothing' when a stranger talks to them? I wonder if what i'm missing is some sort of 'ramble/routine' that I know other people in pickup use. (i've personally never tried) I saw some day game infields today, and lots of the conversations were like. guy: ''Hi! I had to stop you. I thought you looked pretty'' girl: ''Errrr...Ok'' guy: ''So...what are yu…
/r/seduction14/09/16 07:55 PM
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should you be physically escelating from the off? Like, even if she is basically ignoring you? Or do you wait until she is at least asking you questions about yourself or somtihng?
/r/seduction14/09/16 07:40 PM
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lol, they'd think you were a social retard if you introduce yourself and then start asking them whether they like pudding!! cringe
/r/seduction14/09/16 02:37 PM
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you'd look like a weirdo unless maybe it was 3am and you were in Vegas or something and everyone was shit-hammered! Watch some RSD vids of infield stuff with Max. He nearly always just asks like ''where are you from'', ''where are you guys up too'', ''how old are you'', ''what's your name'' etc etc
/r/seduction13/09/16 01:10 PM
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how did you get poor social skills and social awareness from asking a group of girls what they were up too and where they were going that night?!! That's pretty much what the RSD guys say, too, after opening. It's wither be normal and ask them sort of basic social exchange questions, or you do teh simplepickup ''Hey girls! So what's better, apples or bananas?'' They answer. And then ''Cool! How many people were in your class at school?'' etc etc. (which I personally think might actually show a l…
/r/seduction13/09/16 01:08 PM
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that seems to be a theme i'm seeing, even on PICKUP FORUMS that are supposedly dedicated to approaching girls. Everyone seems to be just getting laid though tinder since it's just so hard to pull a girl home from a bar. I don't think there' s anything wrong with it, since at the end of the day, most people want to learn 'game' in order to get lots of sex I'm simply jealous as I don't get any tinder matches!! :) But if one can get laid on tinder without having to know anything about game at all, …
/r/seduction12/09/16 01:56 PM
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Thanks. Also, is the idea to wait until she is showing some interest in you before you move onto things like verbal escalation and more kino? Sometimes i'll be doing my best with making conversation, making good eye contact, trying to tease her etc, but the whole time, they just appear to be a passive listener. Don't ask me questions about myself etc. In these situations, i'm never sure whether i'm supposed to just think ''Well, game isn't magic. I can't make her like me. She's clearly not into …
/r/seduction12/09/16 11:47 AM
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yep, I can concede that maybe the girls weren't fantastic, and maybe there were some 'myspace angles' at play, but they looked bangable from memory Besides, I can tell you that when I went there, I was far from fussy after a few fish bowls so I would have been happy with them, but I guess I just didn't have high enough energy and wasn't 'forward' enough. I bet these guys were like creepy machines playing 'numbers game' to the extreme on very drunk 16 year olds. I'll have to greatly adapt my game…
/r/seduction09/09/16 10:11 PM
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I assumed the difference was the 'age gap' laws? Like, where I live, you can bee a 65 year old guy and have sex with a 16 year old girl, but I thought that in the US, 16 is only legal if the guy is, say, under 25 for example?
/r/seduction09/09/16 10:07 PM
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yeah, I think you're right. Even RSD tyler seems to always just grab girls and makeout with them in seconds, but he always films vids in similar high octane environments like vegas and ibiza. I think it's interesting how the approach must be adapted a lot to the environment, though. I mean, is there really any 'game' in grabbing a girl and making out with her in 10 seconds? Surely that can be taught 2 minutes? I think in hindsight, me and my friends were just too shy when we were younger in that…
/r/seduction09/09/16 06:21 PM
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16 is legal there. 16 is legal where I live in the UK, too....no matter how old you are. One of my friends is 35 (looks like an armani model!) and is always sleeping with new gorgeous 16 years olds! (his preference)
/r/seduction09/09/16 06:16 PM
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Maybe I wasn't that clear in my post. I've been to Magaluf! 16 of me and my friends. All tried desperately to get laid, but only 2 of us did. The SAME two handsome bastards who got laid lots back in teh UK! Both guys are somewhat quiet although not shy. And both very very good looking) But what I was getting at was, another time on a similar holiday (with 8 friends), I got chatting to these 2 guys who had had lots of success with hot girls. Loud. Almost a bit like a Jeremy Kyle guest! Now, i'm c…
/r/seduction09/09/16 02:39 PM
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haha! Just a little?? :)
/r/seduction09/09/16 11:00 AM
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From a personal point of view, i've had a MUCH better success rate using canned/funny openers. I've had my worst reactions in general from smiling and saying something like 'hi'. (usually no response or confused look). I smile and look her in the eye, so i'm assuming it's not the 'non verbals' Like I say, so far, with a funny/canned opener, I've NEARLY always been able to get into a conversation at least, hence I was curious about others experiences. Obviously I know that nothing works on EVERY …
/r/seduction08/09/16 08:00 AM
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I'm not even sure it's as easy as just escalating! Ages ago, a really hot girl who was half my age and only just legal where i live (wouldn't be in the US) opened me on tinder - basically with a pickup line! I done some investigating and was able to confirm she was real. In fact, a friend of my cousins daughter. I asked her for her number. She gave me it. Texted her and had some usual chit chat, and then I asked her if she wanted to come over/meet, and then she went cold almost instantly. Confus…
/r/seduction06/09/16 10:12 PM
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do you think there is a 'code' to crack, though? I read someone on the roosh forum earlier say that since he 'cracked the code' he can get laid when he wants.
/r/seduction06/09/16 01:58 PM
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Hopefully this makes things a bit more clear. Thanks. Yes, I think so. I want to ask you something else. Slightly off topic (although maybe it's not) Can i PM you?
/r/seduction05/09/16 04:33 PM
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regarding 'learning' and 'feedback' I find it difficult to narrow things down. If I go out and end up taking a girl home, i'm wondering whether it was because I used a certain opener which helped lead me into a fun conversation. Or maybe it was because I told her she was hot at teh right time. Or maybe it was because I actged dissinterested at a certain time of the interaction. Or maybe it was because I parted my hair to the left instead of the right!! :) You know what I mean? Like, when I got l…
/r/seduction05/09/16 02:50 PM
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The last girl I banged was a teenager who was like half my age! I lied about my age, my job, where I lived, and lots of other stuff! If I had have told her the truth , that I was old, and that I have a shit job, I just feel as though i'd have had a much lower chance of her letting me bang her, so I say 'all's fair' when it comes to pickup.
/r/seduction05/09/16 01:17 PM
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tall and good looking! He also breaks lots of the rules I read about 'giving her all the power' and telling her he likes her and that she is gorgeous etc. But really, I don't tihnk you need rules or anything when you look like him Fun to watch, though
/r/seduction30/08/16 12:15 PM
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I don't have any advice but if you go medication route, i'd be grateful if you could keep me updated via PM or something. It's a strange one. I mean, I have friends who obvioulsly have zero social anxiety in general and have very good jobs and can do presentations etc, but even THEY are too scared to approach random girls in clubs and stuff most of the time! So part of me thinks that it's 'normal' to be anxious and nervous and to clam up etc. But at the same time, like you say, I find myself get…
/r/seduction30/08/16 11:06 AM
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Anyway, yeah. Other than getting more handsome, is there any other input. I'll hopefully have a new one on Saturday, hopefully with some more receptive girls
/r/seduction29/08/16 09:28 PM
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like plastic surgery? cheers
/r/seduction28/08/16 03:16 PM
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yeah, there's a hell of a lot of conflicting/confuising stuff in the pickup world. If I was to play 'devils advocate' and basically answer my own question as if I was someone else, I guess I'd say ''just because you approach her, it doesn't mean you definitely want her'' However, the thing is, I DO want to fuck every hot girl I approach. I bet we all do. And I bet the girls know this too! They're not daft! It's similar to the 'you're the prize' stuff. If we were really 'the prize', would the gir…
/r/seduction26/08/16 07:22 PM
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Girls like guys they can't get How does this effect approaching girls, though? I assume one should still be approaching girls they want?
/r/seduction26/08/16 06:07 PM
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My 'online' skin has gotten a lot thicker over the last few months. I'm still completely baffled as to why girls do things like block you mid way through a conversation that they seem to be enjoying etc. One girl asked me to add her on snap chat (I deleted teh app after 1 day) and sent me a pic of her in a bra. I don't know much about snapchat, but I assumed this meant I had to reply with my own pic, so I sent a pick of my 6 pack. She blocked me about 2 minute later, lol. I was confused and anno…
/r/seduction26/08/16 08:32 AM
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examples on flipping the script? Like, I see a hot girl, I walk over to her and say 'hi', tell her she looks nice bla bla bla, ask her questions about herself etc. How do now flip the script?
/r/seduction26/08/16 08:13 AM
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they're very important, but they get less important as you go for older girls. Them girls might be more impressed if you're rich, whereas young girls might not care if you are the biggest loser in the whole world, as long as you have a gorgeous face. Certainly for one night stands. Maybe less so for an actual relationship
/r/seduction23/08/16 02:46 PM
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forreign girls/tourists always seem to be the easiest, as most PUA vids use them. Good job
/r/seduction21/08/16 12:11 PM
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sure, but you still need to say/do something
/r/seduction20/08/16 06:23 PM
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what kind of openers and initial statements/questions do you ask to get the fun started 'from the very first moment you see her'?
/r/seduction20/08/16 05:36 PM
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Interesting. I notice that LOADS of PUA vids are with foreign girls. I think it just gives you a ready made conversation starter that can naturally go on for a while. THe opener is always like ''where are you from?'' and they talk about the country and what it's like to live there etc etc and throw in some teasing about cultural sterytypes etc I also saw a thread about this subject from a long time ago on a pickup forum, and in it, the guy was saying that had been travelling and had banged loads…
/r/seduction20/08/16 10:39 AM
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In my experience, teh whole 'good career' thing is only for relationships as opposed to one night stands. But if you think it's important, you can still lie if it's for a one-noght-stand! The last lay I had, I lied about my age, my job and my house!! The only lie out of them 3 which I felt I had to make (otherwise I couldn't have boned her) was my age! She was only a teenager, so I couldn't dare tell her I was 30! I told her I was 23 lol Another thing is that, from what i gather, the career thin…
/r/seduction19/08/16 05:39 PM
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problem is that I only work with all men from 9 - 6pm, so I only really get to meet girls if I go out to bars etc. People always suggest things like 'join various clubs, register on meetup.com'' etc, but you only tend to meet old divorced women etc.
/r/seduction19/08/16 05:36 PM
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I have a friend who is the nicest guy I know, but i've heard girls call him creepy. I realised that it's simply because he is quiet (without being exceptionally handsome) If he was very goodlooking (but still quiet), girls would replace 'creepy' with 'mysterious', 'sexy' etc Basically, I think one can avoid the 'creepy' tag by being overly loud/extroverted/confident etc
/r/seduction19/08/16 11:08 AM
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what were the first few things you said to her to get the conversation going?
/r/seduction19/08/16 09:30 AM
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They say looks don't matter, so I wouldn't worry about it. You could have no teeth and bang tens every night with 'game', so they say
/r/seduction19/08/16 07:55 AM
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I get that, but there's only so much sex you can have. We can't sleep with everyone! game or no game. I'm saying that, lets imagine some guy has zero game, but he is able to have sex everyday with a new hot girl from tinder, I personally wouldn't care that I wasn't able to pull the hot girl I bump into in the grocery store. I'd be like, ''never mind. I'll bang someone just as hot as her on tinder tonight!''
/r/seduction18/08/16 08:12 PM
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really?! i couldn't care less. Just means I don't want to be her boyfriend, lol! Still want to smash her!
/r/seduction18/08/16 06:59 PM
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how does learning the guitar help with girls out of interest? I taught myself a few months back and can play most songs now. Am i supposed to walk around parks playing te guitar in the hopes that a guitar loving girl notices me or something?
/r/seduction18/08/16 05:52 PM
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but all most people want, is to bone loads of girls, and if someone can do that with no game and using tinder, then all is good i guess!
/r/seduction18/08/16 05:50 PM
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lol
/r/seduction18/08/16 05:35 PM
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so you can start gauging if that's even a girl you want to speak to! Well if she's hot, we want to have sex with her. So speaking to her is usually a pre-requisite :)
/r/seduction18/08/16 04:02 PM
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tips in how you got her? more info on the initial meet (open/conversation tips etc) and how it all progressed etc? And are you sure it was 'game', and not just her thinking you were hot?
/r/seduction18/08/16 09:24 AM
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use 'game' to make them want you instead ;) If people say that looks don't matter, then skin colour shouldn't matter either, i guess.
/r/seduction18/08/16 07:53 AM
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nice one! sounds like she's into you, you handsome mofo!!! :)
/r/seduction17/08/16 09:47 PM
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Did you meet her on tinder?
/r/seduction17/08/16 08:56 PM
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I approach girls too. I've even had sex before, believe it or not! :) Jealousy is pretty normal, really. Not a big deal!
/r/seduction17/08/16 08:55 PM
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Yes. Definitely good job from the OP! (Can't comment on the rest of your post. I have No idea what you are talking about, lol)
/r/seduction17/08/16 08:48 PM
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Nice. I'm very jealous!! Do a FR
/r/seduction17/08/16 06:00 PM
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teach us all how to get vanilla sex so easily!! lol
/r/seduction17/08/16 05:57 PM
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exactly! i think we should make it a rule to ban talk about 'openers' since everyone just says ''just say 'hi'!'' as if that constitutes good advice. Maybe we should discuss 'conversation starters' instead, because that's really what people are asking when they are stuck with openers. So, for me here in the UK, I try to evesdrop on random people when I see someone approach a girl (note - I almost NEVER see guys approach!!) but when they do, the opener is basically ALWAYS ''You alright?? You 'avi…
/r/seduction17/08/16 04:33 PM
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I guess he meant conversation starter as opposed to 'opener'. Like, you'd need something after 'hello', lol
/r/seduction17/08/16 02:49 PM
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Also the part where you said you freeze up is what I mean, go up there and freeze up, go and say something really stupid and fail, it > go up there and freeze up, go and say something really stupid and fail, it is a learning experience, you will hate yourself after that but hell, you are going to learn from it and every encounter will become natural How do you actually learn, though? The idea of 'learning from practice' with this sort of thing confuses me. Lest say you walk upto a girl and say '…
/r/seduction17/08/16 01:49 PM
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The grabbing a girl from behind thing only works if you are very very good looking. What I noticed years ago, is that what happens is that a guy will grab a girl from behind. She won't look at him. SHE'LL LOOK AT HER FRIENDS, AND SEE WHAT THEIR REACTION IS! If you are good looking, her friends will kind of smile at her or something, and she'll know to go with it. Then she'll grind on you and you can maybe get a makeout. If you are not handsome, her friends will give her a different look, and she…
/r/seduction17/08/16 01:21 PM
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Some people need a script I think! At times, without one, I literally freeze and don't know what to say, lol You'll probably tell me off for asking this (as i'm aware it's kind of missing the point of your post) but how does a typical approach look for you, say, with a girl you notice in a bar. First 30 seconds of the interaction or so
/r/seduction17/08/16 01:17 PM
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x2
/r/seduction16/08/16 10:03 AM
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I have this! I've even looked into surgery (some sort of corner lip lift for example) It makes me look either scared / angry / or sad. Basically all bad things! And If i go around smiling all day, I look like i'm mentally sub-normal!
/r/seduction16/08/16 10:01 AM
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wouldn't xanax help with AA? I don't tend to use drugs (yet), but a few of my friends started having lots more success with girls when they started taking 'party drugs' on nights out. Just made them very confident and outgoing/social and fun etc. (in no way a recommendation!~!)
/r/seduction14/08/16 07:11 PM
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lol, same. If i take the OP advice, I never talk to a girl at all. Just mess about with my mates chatting about memories and stuff, and beofer you know it, i's 2am and time to go!
/r/seduction14/08/16 07:07 PM
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I know how you feel! There does appear to be a magic point which is basically a mixture of just naturally being a little 'happier' on a given day, PLUS a certain amount of alcohol. On these occasions, I am able to approach. But sometimes, just saying 'hi' is impossible. I'm still kicking myself as last night I ws just having a quiet beer with my family, not looking to talk to girls, and as i walked back from the bathroom, a fairly hot girl who was sitting down looked at me and she kind of 'motio…
/r/seduction14/08/16 07:05 PM
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I don't know why, but i've NEVER had any success with any type of direct opener like that. the typical ''Hi, I saw you from over there, thought you looked cute in that dress, my name's famine'' that are always recommended in pua books etc I find it always set the conversation off in a way where the girl always looks a bit weirded out and kind of 'defensive'? Kind of on guard. Maybe it's because i'm in the UK and there's a slight cultural difference For me, every time I open either using a funny …
/r/seduction31/07/16 10:26 PM
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Is there any debate about this at all, or is that what game theory suggests, out of interest? I don't believe i've read much about this in any game books i've read. Anyway, when i read what you wrote, it gave me a assive flashback to a scene in 'groundhog day' where Bill Murrays character is making out with his love interest who is reluctant, and she keeps like saying ''I can't do this'' and he's like ''I know. We definitely shouldn't!'' as he continues to kiss her and stuff. Just thought i'd me…
/r/seduction30/07/16 04:49 PM
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It is, in fact, possible to get a girl from being indifferent to you/hating your guts to being madly in love with you Yeah, she might hate your personality, but if she thinks you are good looking, you can still 'game' her into bed. Otherwise, no. Getting girls who are already attracted to you doesn't need "Game". Actually, I'd definitely disagree. I know people who have ruined countless chances by behaving like a moron when girls are clearly interested in them. Usually more from being shy and ne…
/r/seduction29/07/16 07:29 AM
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if she's saying that, she's into you and i doubt it matters much what you say. Just say 'thanks'! Then carry on talking with her until you get her into your bed!
/r/seduction28/07/16 02:54 PM
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i like the blonde (pink jacket)
/r/seduction28/07/16 12:52 PM
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good stuff But then i'd say ''just saying 'how are you' or using observational openers' works!....who knew?!" :) Whenever someone says 'just say 'hi''', the reply is always, 'I said hi, she said hi....then I didn't know what to say'' lol
/r/seduction28/07/16 12:43 PM
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Well that's what I though "game" was - being able to sleep with a girl even though she's not interested, you can conduct yourself a certain way to get her if only! If that was the case you could start 'learning game' now, and you could still be boning all the hot 18 yeard olds you like when you're 80 years old since looks don't matter ;) I was kind of guilty of thinking 'game' was some kind of magic for a while, too! Taken in by the 'coaches' selling dreams i think. I think it increases your cha…
/r/seduction28/07/16 12:40 PM
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maybe things are different with kids, but if i added a stranger, i wouldn't expect them too accept me! But then since i'm older, i only have ppl on my facebook who i actually know, lol. Like, my 14 year old cousin has about 6000 'friends' and there's no way she 'knows' them all, lol. Maybe kids just randomly add anyone and everyone so that they look popular?? What would you say to her if you decided to just write to her? I always see hot girls on facebook, but would feel weird just writing to th…
/r/seduction28/07/16 12:32 PM
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''Hi'', ''hey'', ''what's up'', ''hello'' etc etc. all fine. but what DID you say after 'hi', lol.
/r/seduction28/07/16 12:27 PM
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names/keywords so that i can search for them?
/r/seduction28/07/16 09:05 AM
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He's probably my favourite, too at the moment. He comes out with lots of amusing lines though, and I could never think of them on the spot like he does (unless of course he plans them in advance and works a way to slip them into conversation) I also think he downplays his looks a bit Since Max grew his beard, he looks a LOT like a friend of mine (who is also about the same height), and this friend gets APPROACHED by girls a fair bit. He has a very attractive look to his face and I'm sure that he…
/r/seduction28/07/16 09:02 AM
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it would be nice to think that'game' can get you all the girls, but really 'game' helps you bang the girls who already think you are hot/their type! You can't make a girl find you sexy. If she has a certain 'type', and it ain't you, I don't think it's possible. Like, you could maybe cover yoruself in tattoos for example (if that's her type) but maybe not worth it! ;)
/r/seduction28/07/16 08:54 AM
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It's almost certainly his looks. I have a friend who legit looks like a male model who IS the most boring guy in the world, and he bangs 10's every week. They approach him. He barely talks to them (which, when you're handsome looks 'mysterious and sexy' whereas if an ugly guy does that, he looks creepy). Also, I don't know where you live, but the lack of career stuff just doesn't even come into it in some places, especially at a certain age. Here in the UK, I know so many 'chavs' who are unemplo…
/r/seduction28/07/16 08:41 AM
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how do you mean? I just make sure I don't break the law! So 16 is as low as i would go.
/r/seduction25/07/16 08:36 PM
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legit. It's ridiculous that there's even a debate about it!!
/r/seduction25/07/16 08:35 PM
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strange response considering YOUR OP, lol
/r/seduction25/07/16 08:28 PM
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If you're asking whether it's weird to find a 15 year old girl sexually attractive at your age, i'd personally say 'no'. I obviously would never recommend breaking the law, though! I'm a little older than you and am trying to bang a 16 year old I met online, but luckily that's legal here I also had sex with a 19 year old i met in a bar a little while back. (and like i say, im' older than you)
/r/seduction25/07/16 08:24 PM
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yes, looks do mater lots. Hard to argue otherwise, really. To be honest, the only people I see disputing this is usually people who are selling courses on pickup and stuff, and have an ulterior motive to tell you untruths.
/r/seduction25/07/16 02:50 PM
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1 more thing. It's nearly 3am here, and i've been out tonight. I made out with a really hot girl. Blonde. very pretty. But here's the thing. Nothing has changed since last night. I'm not suddenly some skilled PUA! I feel as thogugh The reason I pulled her was because, either : A) she thought I was good looking Or b) She was just a fun, friendly talkative person which made it easier for me to 'game' her I feel as though every time I do well with a girl, it's in spite of 'game'....not because of i…
/r/seduction23/07/16 01:20 AM
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Hey, thanks for replying. I may have another FR tomorrow as im' off out again tonight. And maybe tomorrw, too!! try to think about what you did wrong. Work on your mistakes and eventually over time things will get better. I think my problem was that I couldn't think of anything to say, so not sure how to 'work on it' at the moment. Don't waste your time trying to be as fun or witty as a "PUA." 90% of the stuff they say to a girl is lines or routines that they memorized. Just be active in the con…
/r/seduction22/07/16 06:16 PM
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Each pill is 500mg. I took 2 pills yesterday a few hours before going out. I've taken as many as 3 before after the first few times (of taking 2) didn't seem to have any effect. However, I must admit that I always drink alcohol after taking them, since I drink when I go out. Maybe i'll take some when i'm just at home and not drinking to see how if i notice anything. Even though I know that it's my fault that I struggle with conversation, I also think a lot depends on the girl I'm talking too. So…
/r/seduction22/07/16 01:46 PM
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I actually did take some phenibut funnily enough. I bought some a while ago, but it seems to have zero effect on me. I'm not sure if i'm immune to it, or if the particular brand I have is rubbish (mind nutrition) What sort of things would you have said in either of them situations?
/r/seduction22/07/16 01:10 PM
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i think every guy in the office has woken up at the crack of Dawn at some point!
/r/seduction20/07/16 03:39 PM
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pretty cool. You in the UK?
/r/seduction20/07/16 03:31 PM
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haha! Keith!!! How's life at Wernham Hogg!!?
/r/seduction20/07/16 03:14 PM
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can't hear much. Heard him say ''you're beautiful'' almost straight off the bat, though I thought that you're not supposed to compliment someone on their beauty until after you've had sex. Seemed like the easiest pull in existence? Sounds like ''hi, you're beautiful'' 'then something about taking a drag of her ciggarrette then asking her where she's going (answer was ''home'') Then her saying ''shall we get a drink first?'' (which at that point the deal is done so. A girl asking you for a drink …
/r/seduction20/07/16 08:07 AM
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I was watching vids of that sasha guy the other day, and most of his successful approaches in the UK are on forreign girls visiting England. UK girls are STILL completely wierded out (for the most part) when someone approaches them in the day. It's still very ''Errrrr, why are you talking to me!!?'' I was also reading a thread on a student forum earlier about this very topic, and it confirmed the difference in attitude between US people and UK people. I wonder if some of the people struggling in…
/r/seduction18/07/16 05:05 PM
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Maybe there's a reason why most PU coaches do pickup vids in Eastern Europe? I'm guessing it's a hell of a lot easier.
/r/seduction17/07/16 03:20 PM
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yeah, I am in the UK. And to be honest, i've never seen someone approach girls here at the beach like i did, so i guess you're right! Happens all the time in the US, though. I've even seen vids of people metting girls sunbathing, sober, on the day time, and then making out with them 10 mins later. I literally have no idea how that is even possible! How to go from ''hi, how are you?'' ''what's your name?'' etc, to making out so soon without the help of drink etc? Just seems alien. Only thing maki…
/r/seduction17/07/16 03:14 PM
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cheers. I wasn't aware that was a rule. I've seen a fair few RSD vids where they approach girls lying down on the beach. Like I say, it's kind of hard because every single piece of advice contradicts someone elses, lol Still can you give a hypothetical example of how a convo at the beach would might escelate after the usual boring interview questions?
/r/seduction17/07/16 08:18 AM
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lol, i was just about to ask a question about beach day game. I tried daygame today at the beach. I typically only ever try my luck at night game in bards and stuff. I seemed easier to 'talk' to them, but I was CLUELESS as to how some people manage to actually make out with girls at the beach during the day and stuff. Like in a bar you can go and get drinks together and 'kino' doesn't seem so weird. Like, even now, I literally can't imagine how someone can 'escelate' in day game. I asked them th…
/r/seduction16/07/16 07:46 PM
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Since you're attractive, I guess you still have a very good shot. If you were not attractive, then being quiet and stuff can come of as 'creepy' But with a handsome dude, I guess girls find it 'mysterious'!
/r/seduction16/07/16 08:53 AM
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Problem is, I don't think that necessarily translates to confidence with GIRLS! I think that's the problem with lots of this 'get your life together' / inner game stuff. I can't tell you how many people I know how have amazing jobs with lots of money and lots of hobbies etc etc, who SUCK with girls. They are invisible to girls. Unfortunately, I honestly think that confidence with girls really comes from looking in the mirror and liking what you see! Also lots of positive references experiences e…
/r/seduction16/07/16 08:48 AM
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isn't that what game is about?
/r/seduction15/07/16 10:35 PM
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0.27 ''would you ever go upto a guy and hit on a him if he was playing pokemon go?'' ''Maybe, if he's attractive!!'' Hey!! not fair!! what about us less attractive bros?
/r/seduction15/07/16 09:51 PM
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I don't really know what pokemon Go is, but it sounds better than tinder what with all the success I hear from it! nice one!
/r/seduction15/07/16 08:21 PM
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thanks, mate! I need all the luck I can get! I rarely pull. That's why i'm here...to see if any 'game' can help me or not. I'm currently a few steps backward from where I was a little while ago after having lots of bad rejections recently that dented my confidence, as well as ZERO interest on POF and TINDER which has further made me quetsion my physical attractiveness (which i personally think is VERY VERY important when it comes to getting girls) Good luck, bro
/r/seduction15/07/16 07:58 PM
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My biggest problem after I finally got over the first few humps of social anxiety was that I could only really find success if I was drunk at a club. Yeah, that's kind of me. Not that I ever have much success, but i've only ever pulled when i'm drunk. But if that's all you have in terms of game, then you don't have much. True. I never claimed to have any game, though! :) And even if you do get those sloppy drunk lays, how does that help you in serious relationships farther down the line? Or hell…
/r/seduction15/07/16 07:03 PM
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I deleted POF yesterday! :( Annoying since so many of the success stories i read here nowadays seem to come from online, but I just get zero matches on tinder (and when i do i get unmatched pretty quick even if someone with 'game' gives me lines to use!) and i get zero replies on POF. I think my best shot is constant holidays to like vegas and ibiza and stuff where there's a crazy atmosphere and lots of drunk chicks where maybe you can use the RSD method and just grab girls and make out with the…
/r/seduction15/07/16 04:35 PM
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Yeah, i know what you mean. I don't care at all if i talk to a girl for a while, and then after a while she sort of say 'i have a boyfriend' or 'sorry, before you waste anymore time, you're not my type. I like tall guys'' etc etc. What hurts are the ones who totally ignore you, or ones who like look at you and say ''Eeewwwww'', or ones who put their palm in your face as if to get rid of you after simply smiling and saying 'hi!'. lol My AA has come back quite bad recently after a fair few of thes…
/r/seduction15/07/16 07:45 AM
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lol, yeah i bet she's a pro! Still good job, though. OP, Can you post the tinder convo to learn from? (not that I ever get any matches!! :()
/r/seduction14/07/16 01:38 PM
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oh, can you show your tinder convo, please?
/r/seduction14/07/16 08:21 AM
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Nice. All of the success stories here seem to be from tinder, though! Dammit. I never get any matches :( well done
/r/seduction14/07/16 08:15 AM
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how did you open her?
/r/seduction13/07/16 07:16 PM
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Exactly. I was annoyed that he didn't get to reply to her, too! Would have been great to see her get a dose of 'real talk'! The hypocrisy!! The entitlement! Grrrrrrr......
/r/seduction13/07/16 07:14 PM
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lol, i saw a convo the other day where straight away the girl wrote ''How tall are you?'' The guy replied ''6ft 2. How much do you weigh?'' She replied: ''Are you fucking kidding me?!!'' (and then 'unmatched' him within a few mins before he could reply, lol)
/r/seduction13/07/16 04:50 PM
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is it different online? Like on tinder, most girls say ''6ft + guys only''. I match with a girl, and one of the first things she asks is my height. If I say anything below 6ft, I get unmatched. I've tried answering in playful ways and stuff, but for some girls it really seems to be a deal breaker. I'm pretty short, and personally, I just feel more comfortable approaching really short girls
/r/seduction13/07/16 11:31 AM
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Personally, direct game hasn't worked for me yet. In fact, the more i read, the more indirect game seems to be touted as being 'correct'. I also saw a vid earlier by some PUA coaches who said that direct game is really only for very good looking people. I guess the idea is that If you go direct but she doesn't think you are that hot, she puts a guard up and rejects you, but if you go indirect yuo can maybe win her around (as long as she doesn't tihnk you are repulsive looking like a gargoyle) It…
/r/seduction12/07/16 10:56 PM
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I have similar issues. Like, If i see a girl, convos can go like: ''hi! how's it going?'' ''Fine'' ''What are you up too tonight??'' ''just a quiet drink'' ''So, what's your name?'' ''Kelly'' ''How old are you?'' ''25'' ''Are you moving on anywhere interesting later or you staying here?'' ''Dunno yet'' etc etc. It's just kinda boring. These convos CAN become slightly fun, but it completely relies on the girl you are talking too being a fun, talkative person which obviously itsn't always the case…
/r/seduction12/07/16 08:57 AM
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Someone told me off on here for asking a girl if they are single? Apparently you're not supposed to ask that?
/r/seduction12/07/16 08:31 AM
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what is pokemon Go? And how does it make it so easy to have sex where everybody is getting laid due to the game?? Is it like an App where you walk around teh street in real life following some sort of map and you can bump into other ppl playing it so you have 'something to talk about'? Why woiuld that be any easier than, say, going dog racing and meeting a girl and talking about Dog racing?
/r/seduction11/07/16 02:57 PM
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what the basics? Isn't it just knowing where teh clit is and licking it lots? Like, kind of difficult to go wrong??
/r/seduction11/07/16 02:03 PM
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if only it was that easy to get girls from tinder!! haha. I never get any matches and when i rqarely do, they unmatch me pretty damn quickly. Regarding being good at sex, I kind of don't understand, if i'm honest. Like, I know i'm not very good since the girls i've banged rarely wanna go for a second time, but I don't get how 'practice' can improve you? I kind of think that if I had sex with another 1000 girls, i'd still be the same. Your dick can only go in and out. I don't really understand wh…
/r/seduction11/07/16 02:02 PM
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Personally, i'd say ''Haha.....pretty much ANY girl better than a 5 in looks could fuck any guy they wanted!....Doesn't mean they'd wanna marry any of you''
/r/seduction11/07/16 08:17 AM
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He looks like Bradly Cooper!! I'm not surprised he does well, lol
/r/seduction11/07/16 08:13 AM
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yeah, this is pretty much me a lot of the time, too. Sometimes rejected as i'm saying hello since they think you ain'y hot enough for them. Sometimes am able to ask their name and where they're from before the girl wants to leave. Occasionally able to talk a little bit more but no sort of sexual vibe at all And on rare occassions, i'm able to pull, but I don't do anything different. There's no pattern. I think it's simply because in thoses instances the girl thought i was good looking and so SHE…
/r/seduction11/07/16 08:04 AM
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guys, is there a subreddit where people will tell your what to write in each message with your tinder matches?? I want someone with 'game' to help me actually meet people from tinder as I can never get close. if such a thing exists, please reply. I know there are some forums like bodybuildling.com that have a big tinder thread and guy with game will help, but i'd rather try here first . cheers
/r/seduction10/07/16 07:26 PM
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what are some openers you use?
/r/seduction10/07/16 05:27 PM
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what would you have said?
/r/seduction09/07/16 03:20 PM
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teach me text game? Most here from what I read say that when it comes to things like tinder/online dating etc, then 'game' is kind of irrelevant since it's basically ALL about your looks? Having said that, I know I don't have any 'text game' I've never gotten 1 lay off of tinder or anything like that. I don't even get matches to be honest, but when i do, the convos go nowhere. If I try being 'forward' and arrange something, I scare them off, and if i play it cool and don't push for a meet, they …
/r/seduction09/07/16 10:00 AM
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lol, reminds me of something i saw first hand years ago. We were in a small group. 18 years old and drinking our first legal beers in a bar. On of my friends had already boned about 20 girls! He is stupidly good-looking, like a male model. Obviously always pulling girls. There was a cute young girl at teh bar, and one of the guys was like ''man she is so hot!'' My good looking friend said ''Just go up to her and say 'hi''' So he walks over, and says ''hi!'' She said ''Hiya'' And then he just sto…
/r/seduction09/07/16 09:48 AM
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God, I hate pretty girls!! lol. It's not fair!!! :)
/r/seduction09/07/16 09:23 AM
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