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Yeah man of course girls like it when they can make a guy angry! This was PUA 101 a decade ago. The reason they like it, and will temporarily placate you, is because it signals to them that they just bagged a pussy who they can control with ease. They can tell that you are not in control of yourself. On a side note, don't think for a second that you can express emotions in a fake fashion, and not have them become internalised; if you try to express anger frequently then you WILL become an uncont…
/r/TheRedPill29/07/17 03:07 AM
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It's not "normal" or healthy to be alone. It's bad for your health. Having said that, being able to tolerate it is probably no bad thing.
/r/seduction11/05/17 07:19 AM
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I don't believe that this is a shit test or whatever. I think it's very possible for a straight guy to come across as gay without meaning to. I've often thought that a guy was gay (me being a straight guy) just based on hunch, and been wrong. My personal opinion is that things like smiling too much can convey it, as well as poor posture. Do you smile a lot?
/r/seduction31/07/16 12:52 PM
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I just wrote a reply to this mentioning Blackout2015 and it got deleted too. I don't see how mentioning another subreddit would split the userbase...
/r/TheRedPill13/05/16 05:24 PM
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Strong misinterpretation and misapplication of primate research. It's the subordinate/beta monkeys that sneak around mating with cheating females, and the betas have to do it this way precisely because they're not dominant enough to subjugate the females and dominate the males. That is to say, alpha fucks mostly, beta fucks sometimes, everybody bucks, etc. I know too from my own life that women will cheat on the most "alpha"/dominant/cool guys.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/16 09:49 PM
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Well a disruptive technology is an innovation. It's the same thing, effectively. And everytime I see somebody misusing the term "disruptive" I point it out, because the term has gone from meaning something extremely specific, descriptive and important in the 90's, to becoming meaningless in the last few years through common misuse. No offense intended by it, you didn't misuse it terribly.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/15 05:54 PM
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That's not what 'disruptive innovation' is, and it's not a new term (it was coined decades ago), it's just being used more frequently and more incorrectly now. Fair enough on the rest of the post though.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/15 12:49 PM
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One thing I've learned is that very few people seem to have a mindset for marketing (the true meaning of 'marketing', I don't mean 'advertising') and this probably creates a perception that entrepreneurship is hard, because everybody's aware of the high failure rate. It seems to me that it's as natural an inclination as being sporty or outgoing is. Some people have a mindset for marketing, some don't. So if you ask 100 people for a business idea, I would wager that most of them will spit out an …
/r/TheRedPill04/09/15 12:07 PM
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Don't mind everybody, you were correct, but people are using different terminology. Yes you can do it from the command line terminal, using the MySQL shell.
/r/TheRedPill28/08/15 11:07 PM
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This is true, and is generally known and understood. But just to point out something on the flipside, because it's something which isn't generally known and understood, it's that a small girl is more than capable of inflicting damage on a large man. I've known 5' girls who were more than capable of knocking out teeth, breaking noses, etc. So the idea that women are harmless is totally untrue, and I hate this pervasive idea that when a woman is hitting a man, he should be able to take the damage,…
/r/TheRedPill24/08/15 12:56 PM
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You're taking this, yourself, and her, too seriously. Nobody cares about why you like your own jokes and if you're racist blah blah. Stop micro-analysing her body language. You seem to think that this micro-analysis will increase your chances of success, but it'll do the opposite. Focus on another girl.
/r/seduction26/07/15 01:03 PM
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This fits with my experience. All women I know walk through interviews. To the extent that none of them can grasp the concept of unemployment. I can't hold it against them though, because they're all excellent conversationalists, and it's a skill that i'd love to have. Unfortunately, being an excellent conversationalist isn't any determinant of suitability. Interviews are generally very subpar as methods of hiring suitable people.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/15 03:56 PM
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What do you think the reason for all of this is? Women better in interview? Better at networking? Males doing the hiring? Gender equality agendas? I mean, given that it was probably a male dominated industry 10 years ago...why wasn't it happening then? It's fascinating that this is happening in aviation though, because it's also happening in STEM in my experience. Intel and so on are pushing for 50% female on staff, even though males outnumber females in education for these fields...so you have …
/r/TheRedPill11/05/15 12:04 PM
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I didn't say that it happens between all genders to turn it into a gender issue, I said it because every person should be aware of people with psychopathic tendencies regardless of their RP stance.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 02:20 PM
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This has nothing to do with rp. This is a psychopath who killed an easily manipulated person for her own ends. It happens between all combinations of genders. What a horrible person.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 11:49 AM
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That's the odd thing about that thread. OP comes on saying "I was abused, and I think it's making me promiscuous, and I don't like doing it". She's literally coming on saying that she was abused and doesn't feel good. But rather than people saying "go get therapy for the trauma you experienced"...
/r/TheRedPill25/01/15 12:14 PM
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Beautiful story. But bros ain't loyal when it comes to women, generally.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 12:30 PM
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He lives above the charity's headquarters in a council estate. That's not just a 'change'
/r/TheRedPill22/09/14 08:54 AM
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You're all fucking lying pricks if you don't admit that your partner giving away all of your life savings and assets to a fucking charity would be a major issue. Edit: You're all missing the point. Nobody's disputing that it was technically his money to do whatever he wanted with. The point is that he could have done that without undermining his family's security and peace of mind, and creating a stressful situation unnecessarily. That's unacceptable, and she has every right to divorce over it. …
/r/TheRedPill21/09/14 05:41 PM
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NSFW - Full on vag She should definitely sue.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/14 09:54 AM
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Yeah it's utter bullshit, and isn't even consistent bullshit. Shawn wants to come drink with us...oh btw he's picking me up in 10 minutes. Alpha OP then transforms into beta OP the next night, meeting up to find out whether RP theory is true, just in case. Of course, being an avid reader of all things redpill, she confirms RP theory before OP bangs her several times. Bullshit
/r/TheRedPill12/08/14 05:26 PM
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Doesn't that make his question good? And wouldn't what you're saying potentially back up what he's suggesting?
/r/TheRedPill20/07/14 05:30 PM
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The guy is 5'9 or 10, average height. But because he's shorter and cuter (?) than the rest of the German team, he's being seen as some sort of aspirational figure? As if anybody can achieve what he has? And as if he accidentally found himself winning the World Cup? There's no lesson here about social value. He's a professional footballer. Cute or not, he's going to be drowning in women forever, probably. This is hardly a surprise. This article is the most beta shit ever.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 09:06 PM
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Whelp, looks like i'm gonna start stripping
/r/seduction18/06/14 02:49 PM
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Exactly. I got a fade just yesterday, and even though i said exactly what i wanted and he did exactly what i said, i'm still sorry i didn't get it half an inch higher and tighter. That's not a prob...it's my own fault, but if you go in saying "do whatever!" and are expecting both you and the barber to end up happy, you're probably gonna be out of luck. Any of the times i haven't been explicit with barbers (e.g. "just give me a trim") they haven't been happy with the lack of instruction. I did of…
/r/seduction22/05/14 09:34 AM
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I think if any criticism can be levelled at MFA, it's the opposite of what you're saying. That is, they stick to more boring, less fashionable aspects of fashion. But while still emphasising fit and quality etc. What you're saying is absolutely correct, if you're fit (or to be accurate, have an aesthetically pleasing body (not everyone who's super fit does have this)) then you can probably 'peacock' less. But there's a fine line. I know plenty of people who are in excellent shape, but walk aroun…
/r/seduction22/05/14 09:04 AM
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Agree. Stylists don't do the male cuts that you're probably looking for day in and day out. The last time I went to a male/female stylist, at the end she was like "do you want wax or clay or blah blah", i said "putty" or whatever, and when she was about to put it in she goes "i don't do this very often so you might want to put it in yourself". I appreciated the honesty, but there ain't no barber in the world that doesn't know how to put in product. Even within the realm of barbers, there are goo…
/r/seduction22/05/14 08:49 AM
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I didn't mean to say that you can't get another girl, I don't know whether you can or can't obviously, but rather meant to suggest that your actions will hint to her that that is the case. Either way, she sounds like a headwrecker regardless.
/r/TheRedPill18/05/14 04:43 PM
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Agree totally. "Leaving in the middle of a blowjob will affect your blowjob permanent record...you know i can get another girl to do it...wah my name's blah and i touch dicks then run away"...this is all beta as fuck. If she goes so far as to stop in the middle, then all you're doing with your talk is fulfilling her drama needs. Threatening to get another girl to do it is also silly. She knows very well that you are unable to get another girl to do it, or else you wouldn't be bothering "shit-tal…
/r/TheRedPill18/05/14 04:13 PM
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Yeah. You can almost feel this through how non-hot some of the things are. Like...."oh yeah, i totally know what you mean! One time in bed...a guy said he liked my BOOBS! :D ". Don't listen to these bishes. You decide what's hot (that in itself is the hot thing about 'lines', that you're expressing your feelings/intentions in an uninhibited way...learning them off defeats the purpose).
/r/TheRedPill04/05/14 07:53 PM
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You're going to run in circles if you listen to girls for what they want expecting to be able to just use it back.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/14 12:31 PM
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This would have been a perfect ending if you were a girl. If it's true, which it's not, the fact that you assumed that Bryan was the hipster guys name shows how insecure your frame is.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/14 05:17 PM
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OK I don't think this is a way to cure one-itis in an acute sense. Getting touched by a woman who's paid to do it, bah. Deriving satisfaction from it acutely, bah. Long term, maybe. Whatever about this, i'd like to hear other peoples experiences regarding learning to dance. Styles, club dancing, how to learn, privates vs group, etc etc.
/r/TheRedPill25/04/14 08:32 PM
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Misc experimented with this extensively and no, beta frames/replies didn't matter at all. Outcome of experiment: facial aesthetics are more important than anything.
/r/TheRedPill23/04/14 09:33 PM
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I think that body language awareness should be something you pay attention to in the beginning, but quickly let it become subconscious again. Mainly because, for your own body, it is subconscious, so it's really obvious when you're making a conscious effort to change it; i've seen this happen a lot...guys who are trying to 'take up space' or whatever else looking really stiff and unnatural, and losing 'presence'. Secondly because a lot of the things to watch for in other people are bullshit anyw…
/r/seduction14/04/14 07:45 AM
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Oh sry yeah, i know that, the impression i'm getting in OP's case is that it would've been more like "do you love me?" "yes" "OK PHEW, for a second there i thought u didn't!"
/r/TheRedPill12/04/14 11:47 PM
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And what if she lied and just said yes here? It should be obvious from the context whether she loves you or not, if you really need to know.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/14 10:13 PM
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Good for you. At the same time, i'd pay more attention to her 'ice queen' aspect than anything she's saying now. If she's not good in relationships, and you have 5 years of evidence of this, don't forget it. Imo.
/r/seduction06/04/14 11:42 PM
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I should have remained aloof, ignored her texts to me while she was out, denied sex when she got home, and woken up and gone to the gym the next morning without saying a word I was with ya up until this. If ignoring her texts and denying sex is normal behaviour for you, then fine, otherwise, you're just demonstrating your insecurity in a different manner.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/14 11:00 AM
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I guess why 'dread game' works sufficiently (as demonstrated by OP's link) in this situation, and why that link you posted might scare people, is because the game that it's suggesting requires you to be completely congruent, with this game, in every aspect of your personality. And as the article says, even high level PUA's mightn't be capable of this. I know guys who are like this, and it works really really well, but not as a 'trick', but rather because those guys have demonstrated their value …
/r/TheRedPill03/04/14 10:58 AM
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You're definitely right about your style affecting other's perception of you as being part of an in-group/out-group.
/r/seduction03/04/14 10:28 AM
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Certain fragrances (cologne, let's say) improves mood, decreases tension, reduces stress etc in men above a certain age. And some fragrances can improve penile blood flow too. I'd say that wearing cologne should be a personal thing, rather than for people. If you wanna wear it only on special occasions then that's ok, but you can have your day scents and night scents (and summer, winter etc)
/r/seduction03/04/14 10:27 AM
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Exactly, just walk right into him. The true alpha will be the one whose walk is more powerful, forcing the weaker male into a reverse-walk.
/r/seduction29/03/14 12:32 AM
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Some are sporadic, some are good looking guys and get laid a lot. A normal mixture, i'd say.
/r/seduction27/02/14 06:36 PM
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That's the funny thing, most of these guys aren't 'beta'. I have a tendency to lay ground work with any girl I might like immediately, just on the off chance that I want to pursue it. So it's not that they're all weiners, i just got the jump on them, because i'd have a rapport with all of these girls within days, rather than the weeks/months it seems to take them. Which makes it all the worse, because when you accidentally alienate yourself from the fun guys, you're sort of screwed for guy frien…
/r/seduction27/02/14 02:46 PM
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As a supplement to the question asking about getting with girls in work/school, my experience has been that getting with the "alpha girl" (for want of a better phrase) will immediately make every other girl pursue you to some extent. The problem I've noticed is that once this happens, it immediately alienates you from every guy. Some of them seem to resent it utterly. I don't think I handled these situations badly, I kept up my normal friendly interactions with everyone. Any advice for this (oth…
/r/seduction25/02/14 06:38 PM
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I can't say i've experienced this, but I definitely believe that our sense of smell is stronger than we give it credit for. Nobody i've said it to believes me, but i've correctly smelled pregnancy a few times (or at least, I felt i could smell it (without thinking about it) and was correct). What's the smell like? You said 'sweet' but can you describe it more? Is it at all like a more mild male musky smell?
/r/seduction22/02/14 05:25 PM
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One little thing i've learned through experience, and if someone has any links about this i'd appreciate it. If a girl "vehemently berates" some guy, even if you agree, don't vocalise your agreement. If you do, I think you can encourage them to think about them, and I think it implicitly increases that person's 'value' because...well why do other guys dislike him too? What's so enticing about that guy that other guys think about him and hate him? I think it puts you into a feminine role, bitchin…
/r/seduction22/02/14 05:16 PM
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But she seemingly didn't know that at this stage
/r/TheRedPill17/02/14 07:46 AM
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Hmm well i'll give you the benefit of the doubt here, but my experience is that guys and girls will do flip flops in their head to try getting out of a situation, just as a reflex. I've even seen girls who were caught sort of cheating (not my girls) doing flip flops to avoid the truth, even though they were planning on breaking up with the guy anyway! I can't imagine a girl ever saying "how did you know" to an accusation of fucking someone else. I'd have thought that even the most amateur girl's…
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 06:14 PM
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I get ya but I don't think anybody takes "freebie lists" seriously, and I don't think that anybody would not break up with someone (or at least consider it) for sleeping with someone else, famous or not.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 04:53 PM
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The "How?" thing really is unrealistic. Any girl (or guy) would go to great lengths to obfuscate the situation before effectively saying "yes I did have sex with somebody". Either it's made up, or she's a total amateur of a girl.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/14 02:57 PM
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Pretty sure you're also fat because you have hypothyroidism.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 08:42 AM
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Why bother telling her this? I don't know why you guys bother. It will have no effect on the person you're talking to, and in this case, will probably just accelerate her behaviour. The only person who's getting anything out of this is yourself. Keep it to yourselves, I reckon.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 08:38 AM
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When I say 'derogation', i meant derogating other males to your partner. As in, "pfff look at that loser guy, can't even afford blah blah". 'Quality' men compete just as sneakily, but tend to do it in the form of showing off wealth and status. It's not an 'alpha' passive thing, like, "i have great inner game and just need to 'be' me", it's an active choice to show off in this manner, and is just like i said in the original post, the way in which people compete depends on their strengths and attr…
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 07:48 AM
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All men compete with men and all women compete with women. The way in which they compete depends on their strengths and attributes. Men certainly put other men down, i'm not sure where you got the idea that this wasn't the case. I'm pretty sure that derogation is a more widely used tactic for men, compared to women, who tend to prefer competing based on visual aspects. Look up studies into mate guarding.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/14 05:40 PM
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Being at events as a dispay of value is laughable. An interesting social life is an indicator of social status, but it's a minor one. Anyone can go out to have fun. Let's not pretend that it's makes or breaks your game. An interesting social life is a major indicator of social status, possibly the biggest indicator. Yes, it mightn't be an indication of wealth status or whatever, but it is an indicator of social status. It's almost tautological. And secondly, not everybody can go out and have fun…
/r/TheRedPill21/01/14 04:13 PM
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Just to point out, the title "When women are truly attracted to you they want to please you" doesn't follow from the content. I've seen many situations where a girl was pulling out of a relationship and bent over backwards to please the person they were leaving, whether it was out of guilt, or track-covering, habit, love, or whatever. So no, a woman doesn't have to be attracted to you to please you. Furthermore, regarding the content, it should be pretty obvious that women (and men) are capable …
/r/TheRedPill13/01/14 09:03 AM
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The book 'Love Shyness' by Gilmartin, which coined the phrase i believe, is excellent, and people here should read it. It talks about how prevalent the problem is, and how damaging the effects of not being able to meet partners, have sex etc are on people who want to, in terms of psyche, employment, etc etc. It doesn't exactly jive with TRP stuff, but i'd hazard a guess that a lot of people here could relate to his listed causes of shyness. These forums venerate the book, without actually follow…
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 09:01 PM
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It sounds like your relationship is working, and that (RP stuff aside) you're happy in it. Why not just go with it.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 11:03 PM
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smart, driven, motivated, physically attractive, funny, family-oriented How descriptive do you want her to be? He's funny, smart and physically attractive, do you need a list of jokes he tells?
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 08:26 AM
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also if he honestly wanted to marry her, said ring isn't exactly something he won't see or won't be relatedto him if she reluctently accepted that. Yep absolutely, I never even thought of that.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/13 01:23 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with marriage in terms of TRP ethos. But yeah you're right, $10 rings are toys. This guy is going to look like a moron to every person in his whole life, from alpha to beta guys, sexy to dowdy girls, what he has done, and how he is acting, is not something to defend or aspire to. Acting like him will do you no favours in your life unless your plan is to be socially isolated.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/13 01:11 PM
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This may be true, but then, any sort of a socially well adjusted person knows that a $10 ring isn't acceptable (regardless of beta blah blah) unless it's by necessity, and certainly, the manner in which he proposed is unacceptable too under any circumstances, for a couple who have 'marriage' as a plan. The comments in that link above are silly. The guy is maladjusted and has issues, there is no defending him. If that's what you're all aspiring to then i think TRP needs to do a bit of goal settin…
/r/TheRedPill19/12/13 12:10 PM
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Where are you getting this from? Do yourself a favour and don't start conflating 'alpha' and 'beta' mindsets with physical capabilities, because that's a surefire way to get your fucking ass ruined in a multitude of ways.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/13 09:11 AM
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If you want a more 'tragic' movie, try Alfie, the Michael Caine version. Excellent film.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/13 09:34 PM
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No man not really. I'd say that i read the material a lot, but intermittently, and with a healthy dose of scepticism. Tyler Durden, as weird a guy as he is, has some good stuff on inner game. The Blueprint is a good dvd series of his. Like his whole deal is about improving yourself and your mentality, irrespective of whether it leads to improvements with women almost. So i'd say that that'd be a good start. It seems to me that there is serious crossover between the community ideas here and on /r…
/r/TheRedPill09/11/13 06:56 PM
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To be honest, I feel that this is where the Pick Up Artist community takes over, if you want direction. If you go into PUA not understanding these things, you'll be frustrated, if you go in with the understanding, you can take lots from it. And i'm not even talking about 'game', but rather, the stuff on self-improvement. The whole jive on inner game and valuing yourself being particularly relevant.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/13 04:05 PM
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Yeah. I like his novels as much as the next guy, but I wouldn't say that his issues and attitudes are admirable (pay attention to 5 minutes on)
/r/TheRedPill09/11/13 01:07 PM
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You might have said it more sappily than i would, but you're right on. The problem on TRP is that people respond to 'understanding' with anger and detachment, rather than recognising that 'understanding' evens the playing field. Once you understand certain aspects of relationships, the whole thing becomes more enjoyable, than less.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/13 01:05 PM
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Close! Irish. I'm not sure how you picked that out!
/r/TheRedPill08/11/13 04:37 PM
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This is the biggest problem on TRP, and I don't know how many times i've been downvoted into oblivion for pointing it out. Being judgmental here seems to be massively encouraged, but being judgmental is going to get you nowhere, either with women, or with your own mindset and mental health. Accept what you're witnessing and learning, and move on.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/13 04:36 PM
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I don't care what the girls do on Gonewild. The amount of girls willing to show their bits online is by far outweighed by the amount of guys willing to do it, so I don't see any moral issue there. The disgusting thing about Gonewild are the sycophantic, loser commenters. Especially the ones who try and come across as being above the other loser commenters. I've always known that there are loser, dignity-less, suck-up guys out there, having heard lots of stories from ex's, but it's the first time…
/r/TheRedPill07/11/13 10:58 AM
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I think you're all conflating a whole bunch of things here. Firstly, if a man came up to most MEN asking if they want a ride in their Ferrari, a hefty proportion of guys would wet themselves with excitement. Of course you're all going to be contrary and disagree, but it's true. Secondly, half of these girls getting in were doing it for the excitement of driving around vegas in a Ferrari. Thirdly, it's ridiculous to think that behaviour along the lines of "i will change my mind about you if you o…
/r/TheRedPill06/11/13 07:07 PM
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Well they guy who 'owned' the Ferrari came up to her. That's not her fault.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/13 07:03 PM
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Spending my money on a Ferrari would be blue pill, though No it wouldn't. Maybe if you did it specifically to try getting sex, but even still, it shows massive value to own a new Ferrari. Massive.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/13 07:02 PM
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....congrats..?
/r/TheRedPill06/11/13 12:23 AM
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This is a sucky situation to be in, but to be fair, of course you're going to become more attracted to someone, your partner or otherwise, when they start taking care of themselves. It's not 'magic' as he says, it's just regular old attraction.
/r/TheRedPill01/11/13 12:15 PM
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I don't think that's right. Girls consistently do better in schooling, this is a matter of fact, and they are under massive peer pressure to do so. It might not be the 'yell in your face' stress (although i'd also disagree with you there too, having seen how competitive the environment is in music etc), but as you say, you adapt to 'yell in your face' stress anyway.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/13 01:29 PM
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Well let's just clarify, these women are olympic lifters and are some of the best in the world at it. They will outlift almost all men. Your average girl who spends 3 days a week lifting in the gym (that is to say, a girl who lifts a lot) will never look like this and will never ever lift as much. Probably better examples to show would be fitness models, who will also outlift most men, but aren't as 'thick' with muscle.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/13 01:22 PM
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Have you ever read about rumination facilitating depression and anxiety? Have you ever heard a girl or otherwise say that someone should "get out of their head", regarding thinking too much, and not being 'present'? I'm all for thinking, but you're analyzing yourself into a hole here, and focussing on the feelings that you're experiencing within that hole, causing negative feedback. You need to work on your inner game. This is one thing I worry about constantly, reading this subreddit. The nebul…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/13 08:34 PM
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Cognitive dissonance all up in this bitch
/r/seduction14/10/13 10:30 PM
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How touchy were you with the creeped girl?
/r/seduction11/10/13 11:25 AM
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why is there so much emphasis on kino around here? Most of the girls I've banged I've engaged in almost no kino before kissing them the first time Or you could grab her hand and lead her too, I do that like if I'm watching a movie with a girl I always put my arm around her. That's feckin kino dude. Yeah, of course it's not needed, and yeah, if you do it while there's zero basis of attraction it might come across as you pawing at her body inappropriately. But if there's attraction building, and k…
/r/seduction11/10/13 10:58 AM
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I dunno. I've been in situations where girls were trying to go for me, and the only thing that was going through my head every time, other than "get the fuck away from this psycho", was "be careful what you do here..", because I could sense that people still thought I was in the wrong and would've loved me to prove it. I think the best thing is to quietly restrain em until they calm, then get the fuck away.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/13 09:19 AM
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I'm not defending him, he should've walked, but in his defense, if he raised a hand back to that girl he'd have every whiteknight in HK waiting to beat the shit out of him.
/r/TheRedPill06/10/13 10:49 PM
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Well the massively vast majority of households are two-income ones, so guys don't necessarily put more monetary equity into a relationship, and i'm not sure you could argue that guys risk more 'emotion' than women in relationships, so there's no sense in thinking that a woman sees a man as a walking wallet, unless you want to also think that men see women as a walking womb. Both women and men can get other partners very quickly, but women are more well adjusted to this notion because of the norm…
/r/TheRedPill29/09/13 11:02 PM
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Women are women? You're blowing my mind here :P To be fair, I know many many many more guys who act like this than girls. In fact, anecdotally, i'd far more readily expect a guy to act crazy after rejection than girls, and i've had my fair share of women who acted 'crazy' after breakups. Girls typically seem to have a better grasp on 'abundance mentality' than guys, and this only makes sense when you consider the dynamics of partnering, and how much more easy girls have it when it comes to attai…
/r/TheRedPill28/09/13 02:49 PM
2

This is fucking stupid. What's that thing that Tyler Durden says? The self is always coming through? You being someone who uses people is going to be so fucking obvious within hours to anyone with a normal level of social intelligence. If the 'fat chick' is your friend, treat her like a friend would, and people will notice. If she's not your friend, then don't even bother trying to meet people through her, because your attitude will be so transparent.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/13 09:54 AM
1

Maybe things are different in America, but in Europe, most girls are finished college by 22. Many of them then go into well paying jobs. Considering unemployment below 30 is very high in many EU countries for males, it seems like it's just a matter of numbers here...the playing field in terms of age is automatically leveled in all sorts of ways (e.g. a successful 22 year old girl who wants a successful guy will have to broaden her age range, or, an unsuccessful young girl will broaden her age ra…
/r/TheRedPill27/09/13 09:37 AM
5

I'm happy for ya. Maybe i'm a jaded old cynical fool though, but this post and that text seem to be filled with so many red flags I could almost explode. I'm guessing you two haven't had an argument yet, and i'm guessing you're doing all the right things in her eyes. Be mindful of what happens when you don't do those things, is all i'm saying. Keep texting 'hey girl' every morning because, as she says, "it's what [she] deserves"... Congrats all the same.
/r/seduction24/09/13 08:32 AM
4

You're doing what everyone in the thread did! Ye need to read her posts and his post to start reading between the lines. She wants him to never shit in the bathroom while she's using it, and she uses it for the entire morning. I.e. she doesn't want him to use it while she steps out for 10 minutes. I gleaned that the reason he shat while she was in the shower was because he knows the shitstorm that would've ensued if he'd said "i need to poo". Regardless, I don't see it as a big deal anyway. When…
/r/TheRedPill08/09/13 10:52 AM
1

Ah, it looks like I replied to your post on there, agreeing with ya. You were actually the reason I started weighing into the thread, because at the very least, the situation was about compromise, not about attacking the boyfriend. But then you were getting downvoted to hell and it all made no sense to me.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/13 10:48 AM
3

Fuck that
/r/TheRedPill08/09/13 10:45 AM
8

The thing is, if she had an extreme revulsion to shitting, I could accept that. It could be worked around. What's boggling my mind was that it started off as a "he shat without telling my while I was in the shower, it was sneaky and unfair to my feelings". Then it turned out, upon probing, that it wasn't that she was in the shower, the problem turned into her not wanting him to shit, while she is using the bathroom in any way. Then it turned out that she doesn't want him shit full stop in mornin…
/r/TheRedPill07/09/13 07:34 PM
1

He's pulling hot girls in a matter of seconds, he seems to know what works for him. A non-reactive, cock funny demeanor is espoused in PUA circles anyway, he basically plays it perfectly. He starts off being playful, then when she starts playing back he stops being her little clown and pulls her into the interaction, making her do the work. He's giving value, and throwing out dhv's all over the place. It's perfect!
/r/TheRedPill07/09/13 05:37 PM
8

I love this guys videos, and thanks for linking to it. But this girl being cute and attractive has nothing to do with anything. In fact, if anything, if she's like some of my ex's who would have reacted in this exact manner, she's the type of person that this subreddit constantly moans about. As an aside, if you want your girl to interact with and to show interest in every fucking nut that crosses her path then be my guest. But in my experience, they're the ones that are more prone to interactin…
/r/TheRedPill07/09/13 05:13 PM
8

Absolutely right. People are getting wrapped up in it because she's good looking and has a cute reaction. Firstly, she could be a total domineering psychopath anyway, and secondly, it has nothing to do with TRP at all.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/13 05:06 PM
4

Andrew Hales' demeanor comes across as very attractive to women. Watch the rest of his vids. I'm a guy and even I can see it. Edit: I typed this before finishing the video. He gets her number ffs, he's clearly very attractive to her.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/13 05:05 PM
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I don't think it's saboteurs. I think the problem is that TRP fills a weird niche, and unfortunately that niche is also at a crossroads between /r/seduction and /r/foreveralone, so you end up with non-mild-tempered foreveraloners and non-successful sedditors, which results in what looks to be crazed fucking dogmatic lunatics ruining threads elsewhere. I'd honestly think that it'd be a good thing if anyone who uses terminology or links to the subreddit on /r/relationships should be temporarily ba…
/r/TheRedPill07/09/13 05:03 PM
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This is an interesting thread. But if people who read TRP are going to comment on threads outside of TRP, it'd really truly be best to not use terminology that everybody else does not understand. One, it means that you're potentially going to be ignored because people do not understand what the fuck you're saying. Two, it makes you look indoctrinated, even if you aren't. Three, it looks like TRP has raided a thread and derailed it, making the thread effectively invalid in terms of further discus…
/r/TheRedPill07/09/13 02:52 PM
12

The girl starts off saying that he snuck in while she was in the shower and shat, and she didn't like that. Understandable, possibly. Everybody backs her up. Then the boyfriend posts, and his post doesn't add up, given OP's. I probe a little bit, and it becomes very obvious that she isn't annoyed that he shat while she showered, but rather that he wanted to shit at all while she was using the bathroom for hair, makeup, shower and dressing. She uses the bathroom every morning, for the whole morni…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/13 08:03 PM
1

Obvious troll. The title here conflates two things, crying, and showing insecurities. I don't know if it's bad or good to let somebody see you crying, i'd suggest that if you're crying in the first place then your first priority should be to fix that issue before worrying whether it might unattract somebody. On showing insecurities, read Mark Manson.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/13 09:44 PM
2

Well you don't offer it, seeing as you just copied and pasted someone else's hard work and ideas.
/r/TheRedPill21/08/13 08:17 AM
2

These are general life ideals and as such are non-specific to TRP, and irrelevant to discussion about it
/r/TheRedPill21/08/13 08:17 AM
3

In my experience, this has been absolutely 100% the rule rather than the exception for all girls in my social circle.
/r/seduction16/08/13 01:54 PM
4

Performing valid surveys is not an easy thing to do for academics. There's nothing valid about this, other than the fact that it's interesting, and probably that it shows something about bitchy group dynamics. A start would be to do it one on one and anonymously, but you're never going to get true opinions in a group setting.
/r/seduction16/08/13 12:03 PM
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This only makes sense for everyone, no? It's distasteful but it's the way it is. That doesn't mean that any person would throw away their relationship for somebody who's only marginally more [insert desirable quality], because there's a social and emotional cost to doing this. But if somebody comes along who's vastly more suitable for you, then it only makes sense.
/r/seduction16/08/13 11:59 AM
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The suicide rate among men, particularly young men, across all of America and Europe, is increasing fast. That's not a misconception. Something is happening to men in our societies. There's no reason to waffle about the topic to try frame it as some sort of alphabetabullshit scenario when there are facts and truths to be discussed.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 10:13 AM
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Exactly. And it's not exactly a hard thing to filter for, you can figure it out very very quickly. The article is ridiculous.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 09:40 AM
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I think that this, and the article, is exactly what's wrong with TRP, the desire to wallow in this 'painful, hard' truth. Whereas guys who grow up alpha, or even beta sometimes, will just absolutely not abide by someone who takes advantage of them. They don't need to talk about it, they don't need to write articles about it, they just know what's right and wrong for them, and rearrange their life so that things work in their favour. I've never had to put up with girls being cheapskates. They've …
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 09:39 AM
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Obviously if you're sticking to girls in a certain age-range there might be a higher prevalence of cheapskates. It's not that cheapskate 21 year olds don't exist in my city, there are plenty! But if it's an issue for you, as it seems to be for the article writer, just don't date em. Date 25 year olds, or date 21 year olds who started a job instead of going to college, or date nice 21 year olds who did go to college, or etc etc
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 09:27 AM
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Me and every guy i know have been far more affected by cheapskate guys than girls. You can't get through life without it happening, cheapskate roommates, cheapskate classmates, cheapskate bosses, etc etc. Cheapskate girls have been more of an annoyance than a real problem, whereas cheapskate guys were a problem. That doesn't mean you wanna date em, but my point is that it's not a female-only phenomenon.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 09:24 AM
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This is pathetic. A minority of girls that i've encountered are cheapskates on the level that he's talking about, and they've been quickly filtered out of my life. He, however, seems to be keeping them around "she asked for the 3 dollars i owed her from dinner, told me she wanted cash only. Three days later she was still asking!"...no wonder he has enough experiences to fill an article if he's putting up with it. This isn't just a female problem anyway; guys are also cheapskates, or in other wor…
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 11:39 PM
1

Well hang on, before you do, I know what some people aspire to on here, but that doesn't mean it's universal, or a sort of 'rule' Tbh, though, my 'wtf' was more directed at all of the idiots on the subreddit answering your question, than the actual question. You're entitled to ask whatever.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 05:27 PM
2

But where did anybody say anything about marriage and children being off the table?
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 02:53 PM
2

You can't look like Brad Pitt in Fight Club without 'bodybuilding' fairly extensively, lifting competently, dieting strictly etc.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 11:35 AM
1

Wtf.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 10:35 AM
9

The guy is looking for unicorns Tbh I think his requirements aren't excessive. Probably a large proportion of girls coming out of certain college courses (let's say law or certain arts subjects) fit them. The list is a silly approach to dating though.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/13 09:15 AM
1

There have been massive amounts of fake stories lately, it's almost ruined the subreddit for me. Funny thing is, is how easy they are to spot. Cuckold fetishists are gonna have to get a bit more creative at some stage.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/13 04:18 PM
18

It's clearly just a joke. I don't think she actually plans to wait until she's 75 to settle down.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/13 02:11 PM
2

Is it stupid people though? Or is it just how engrained sexuality is in us? That even the threat of having rocks thrown at your face until you're dead doesn't dissuade a person from fucking someone who they shouldn't.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/13 01:25 PM
1

This is something i've always found completely baffling. Some cultures do punish adultery very harshly, but people still do it! I semi-accidentally saw a video of a poor girl and guy being stoned to death for adultery, and all I could wonder was why they'd knowingly risk their life for sex. Humans.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/13 01:16 PM
2

The dark knight...?
/r/TheRedPill26/07/13 03:02 PM
6

They don't mean that just getting to know someone and having sex can be construed as rape. The article and concept isn't complicated.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/13 11:40 AM
0

A person with BPD probably wouldn't bother lying like this. BPD is a fairly severe disorder and shouldn't be slapped as a label on any arbitrary deviant behavior.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/13 04:08 PM
1

Do you feel that knowing you have BPD helps or hinders progress for yourself? I presume you were diagnosed professionally. When my ex was diagnosed with it, one of her psychiatrists said to me, effectively, that he was regretful that she knew her diagnosis, because she might tend to use it as a form of protection or validation. I.e. "oh it's ok that I started a physical fight in public, because BPD" or "they should understand not to push my buttons like that, because BPD". I didn't believe him, …
/r/TheRedPill19/07/13 11:57 AM
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If this is real, then fair enough, and good report. In my opinion though, this is clearly a male OP writing out his little fantasy story. All of the language points to it. Fake and shit.
/r/seduction02/07/13 03:55 PM
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I disagree with every reply. Girls check out guys just as much as guys check out girls, and unless you're totally oblivious, it's very obvious when they're doing it. The body language stuff is completely irrelevant here, feet pointing in blah direction and all that bullshit, because it's just so obvious when they are checking you out. You'll notice a big variation in the number of checkouts you get, and from which types of girl, based on what you're wearing and on your attitude. If you're scopin…
/r/seduction26/05/13 05:23 PM
2

Ideas such as cocky-funny and aspects of value (giving, demonstrating) are almost a necessity on POF. From my (fairly large) experience with POF, i'd think of it as a far harder venue for meeting people than real life. It can be stunningly cutthroat, so whatever tools you need in real life, you'll need to be far better at them on POF than out in the real world. So i hope you're not thinking of it as easier than bars, because it ain't (in my opinion). And as /u/yokhai says, obviously approaching …
/r/seduction20/05/13 04:14 PM
0

She's going to figure you out and leave your head reeling like that *finger snap*. You ever hear that RSD phrase "the self is always coming through"? You'd better make sure that the arrogant, aloof persona that you've portrayed to her is your natural self or else you're fucked. For your own good though, I hope you're a more laid back guy than you've demonstrated...
/r/seduction10/01/13 11:36 AM
1

This is a shit test. Agree and amplify. Having said that, i find that girls who filter men with this frame are ones that should be avoided. They'll make it their business that you can't handle them, if they can, and it's not a lot of fun.
/r/seduction26/12/12 02:36 PM
1

People are poking fun but i find that this can be a real issue for completely heterosexual men. Whether it's fashion sense, style, gait, i don't know, but i know lots of guys who people think are gay, and honestly they do seem 'gay' (not to stereotype but you know...). One common denominator i've noticed...how's your posture? You don't have tilted hips do you? I think posture plays a role...
/r/seduction10/12/12 05:02 PM
19

Some serious whiteknighting in this thread. Stop transferring your own fear of a girl you're with cheating on you onto an innocuous story. Or better yet, realise from the story that if you don't seduce your girlfriend/wife, and make sure that you act in an attractive fashion, there are many many far more pushy guys than OP in the world and you'll possibly lose out to them. It's the way things work. OP even said he didn't try kiss her after she mentioned her boyfriend the second time...that's pre…
/r/seduction10/12/12 10:27 AM
6

Except she enjoyed herself.
/r/seduction10/12/12 10:17 AM
6

His idea of success is more than likely completely different to yours. Perhaps this gave his confidence a nice boost, or perhaps it gave him experience with a new area of seduction, that might be his idea of success. Perhaps this experience will help him find a life partner, that might be your idea and his idea of success mixed in. Who cares, either way.
/r/seduction10/12/12 10:16 AM
2

Non issue. Figure it out on the fly, figure out what you're comfortable with on the fly, if you feel like she's taking advantage, cross that bridge when you come to it. I think it'd come across a lot worse to have an inconsistency or uncertainty in your actions, e.g. forcing her to pay up until a certain point, or vice versa.
/r/seduction06/12/12 01:05 PM
1

'Nor would you want to'*
/r/seduction22/11/12 08:02 AM
1

You're making a mistake if you think that all girls can't spot everything via smarts. They might ignore that they can spot it, or it might be subconscious, but you're never going to slip in behind their guard, nor would you want them to. So you might aswell use an old canned technique if its interesting and if you feel like it'll help
/r/seduction22/11/12 08:01 AM
0

Agreed, but there's a definite contextual difference between a market vendor calling you 'love' and a creeper guy who thinks he's in calling you the same. But i still think it's very non-awkward if you've established a connection, whether that connection takes three weeks or three minutes to build
/r/seduction22/11/12 07:56 AM
1

'Expressions' of opinion I meant
/r/seduction22/11/12 07:33 AM
4

Little tip I do for this: use the pet names along with slightly more negative (funny) expressions. As in, if she says something you disagree with say, use it then. "Whatever darling" It's automatically non-cheesy, fits in with cocky-funny, and then you can segue to using it in other contexts from there.
/r/seduction22/11/12 07:33 AM
2

I'm not going to lie, the news did hurt, as it should have. But after a couple of hours I came to the realisation that I was still happy with myself and that it was a beautiful sunny day. What more could I possibly want in life? I feel like this is an attitude that everyone should strive for. Well done.
/r/seduction20/11/12 02:39 PM
1

You'll find her, they're always in the last place you look.
/r/seduction19/11/12 02:21 PM
2

The 'are you fishing for a compliment' thing isn't so bad. The 'can you wipe ashes off' would've been ok if, as you say, you'd said it more playfully. Honestly i don't think this was fundamentally too bad. She was probably fairly drunk? If so, don't read too much into the fact that she came up, and that she went off, she was probably just drunk.
/r/seduction18/11/12 04:56 PM
1

The world's your oyster! If you like pua, and you seem to, the photography society is good because they have exhibitions and wine and mingling every once in a while. Sports wise, again, you really have pick of the litter. For fitness and utility i'd recommend boxing and judo, both good clubs i believe.
/r/seduction01/11/12 12:24 PM
1

Good point! The social proof of being involved in some society/club might help without outside game, too. I'm sorry i didn't get more involved in societies, is basically what i'm saying. I joined a few after graduating and they were bloody great.
/r/seduction01/11/12 12:18 PM
9

This stuff can sound ridiculous, but really it's just terminology which allows people to discuss it in concrete terms. Knowing these terms doesn't give you good 'inner game'; this only happens when you happen to internalise it, in the same way that anybody who doesn't know the terminology will have to internalise it (except these people don't want to talk about it). I do sort of worry that a high level understanding about something can hinder it at a low level. As in, if you think you understand…
/r/seduction30/10/12 08:34 PM
2

Ah man, Trinity's a big place, join some societies or clubs. You wont even have to bother with trying to game people (unless you want to). Even just doing medicine in trinity is a big dhv, you're laughing.
/r/seduction30/10/12 02:08 PM
2

Yeah, hah, it's a bit of a bizarre situation. It seems like girls in clubs/pubs are ok for hooking up with people, but i can't imagine relationships blossoming from there (i'm sure lots of people have married people they met in clubs though). But then, when you do meet a girl (if you're young), half your social life will revolve around these places anyway. I think all of my longer term girlfriends have been found through common social groups or else online dating (plenty of fish has dublin meetu…
/r/seduction30/10/12 10:31 AM
2

The differences between countries makes sense. Day game is, i think, faiiirly rare here. Having said that, i've had a few girlfriends who were hit on, often in a pua-ish style (as if they practiced it), on an almost daily basis around town; i think they were creeped out by it more often than not. I can't add a lot of venues to your list to be honest, i used to like Doyles when i was in Trinity, and i enjoy a bunch of places on Georges Street/Aungier Street/Camden Street (i used to live on Camden…
/r/seduction29/10/12 11:20 PM
2

I'm in Dublin, i don't think i'm looking to go sarging with anyone though, sorry, but i'm curious, how are you finding the scene in Dublin versus Canada? Any specific venues you like?
/r/seduction29/10/12 10:49 PM
4

True enough. I should've said "i don't like the company of girls anymore that go for this type of cutesiness", and really that probably didn't need to be said anyway. You're right.
/r/seduction27/10/12 03:28 PM
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Good tips. I feel that a lot of girls won't jive with these cutesy examples, but good work anyway.
/r/seduction27/10/12 12:43 PM
3

Are you sure she wasn't a Fulfilled Human Being Model? The title of the article, "What is it like to Date or Marry a Fashion Model", is very ambiguous..
/r/seduction10/10/12 02:01 PM
16

No offense, but this is completely anti-seduction. You had sex with someone you've been pining for for years, great, but this girl is going to walk the fuck all over you if you're not careful. I feel like walking all over you, hearing some of the cheesy stuff you said. So long as you're happy, i guess.
/r/seduction06/10/12 02:58 PM
2

Would it bother you if they were actively seeking monogamy, not with you, while listening to your tales and having sex with you?
/r/seduction02/10/12 07:58 PM
3

She's one sexy lady. This is going to spark off all sorts of broscience discussions on misc i'll bet, with regard to test levels. Perhaps this is the sole reason that this dude is so muscley, whatever about exercise and diet. Great talk.
/r/seduction01/10/12 09:38 PM
18

I think a lot of people would come across as 'assholes' if they were truthful more often. Especially in relationships, a lot of guys tend to limit their expression in an attempt to keep the relationship going. In extreme scenarios, this might result in, for example, guys saying sorry for things that they didn't do, just to try and keep the girl sweet. Women pick up on this really really quickly though. This is one aspect where being 'nice' is bad and being a 'jerk' is good, it shows strength of …
/r/seduction30/09/12 04:13 PM
3

You're just inspiring me to start stealing handbags. I never thought there might be a million bucks in some.
/r/seduction30/09/12 12:10 PM
13

You know the way you don't want to make a woman feel like a slut in a situation where you're about to get with em? Like, in the case of LMR or whatever? You just misused a line that might've been ok in a different context, but not when she was ready to jump your bones. It isn't a cultural misunderstanding, but live and learn.
/r/seduction29/09/12 01:48 PM
9

You can't trust her version of events here. She's breaking up in the most dramatic way possible, and not only that, it's just a gambit. She's not in a right state of mind, and it sounds like the guy had learned that by this stage. Thanks for the translation!
/r/seduction27/09/12 09:24 PM
2

I seem to have a very very good talent for choosing, and being attracted to, girls who have issues ranging from mild to severe. I don't seem to find this out til months later. If anyone reading finds themselves ending up in lots of dramatic relationships, start considering your choices. And maybe read 'No More Mr Nice Guy'.
/r/seduction07/09/12 04:27 PM
1

I've played music since i was little, so i do understand rhythm. But my last girlfriend said it seems like i understand rhythm too much for dancing. She probably meant what you're saying, i thought too much about it. Ok, i'm going to look up classes in my city and see what's there! It's probably semi-irrelevant to you now, seeing as you've gotten to a high level and actually have a love for dance, but it must really help a lot with your game too.
/r/seduction06/09/12 03:29 PM
1

Wtf man, that's amazing. You surely weren't uncoordinated beforehand though? You must've danced decently in clubs etc?
/r/seduction06/09/12 03:22 PM
1

Ok man, that's probably the most motivational post i've seen on /r/seduction. If you had to recommend one traditional style of dance for a total uncoordinated oaf of a beginner, what would it be? I'm fit enough, if that's an issue, but i really do seem to be uncoordinated when it comes to dance. My ex started swing dancing, and try as she might, she just couldn't get me doing the very first basic steps she'd learned in any sort of a...swagful way.
/r/seduction06/09/12 03:03 PM
1

I'd presume that dance classes (unless you found club dancing classes or something) wouldn't be directly applicable to dancing in a seduction context, but do you reckon it helps, in terms of body awareness etc? I've heard people say that it'll teach you rhythm, but i reckon that most people already 'get' rhythm, how else might classes help? Thanks
/r/seduction06/09/12 02:39 PM
1

Heh i get you. My ex tried getting me to do the same thing, because apparently i looked like some sort of epileptic power walker trying to dance to the proper beat. Having said that, do you not find that your movements/the beat becomes too slow, doing that? That's what i found when my ex was trying to teach me
/r/seduction06/09/12 02:09 PM
2

No man i think i agree. I know that even the manly good dancing guys i know, and i'd never have guessed it, basically practice at home pretty often. Dancing with confidence doesn't work well if you can't dance, or don't practice. What training or classes did you do?
/r/seduction06/09/12 02:05 PM
3

Skip one beat? As in, if there're four beats to the bar, dance as if there're only three? Or do you mean like, dancing off the beat rather than on?
/r/seduction06/09/12 01:57 PM
5

To be honest, and not meaning to sound like a dick, but the common trait with good dancers is that they're good dancers. I've known many people (including myself) who tried the "dance like nobody's watching" thing, and it just isn't...good. I've seen people basically alienated and laughed at in clubs for being shitty dancers. That says a lot more about the people laughing than the person dancing, but it's the way it is.
/r/seduction06/09/12 01:55 PM
1

even having sex with him Sucks man Mystery solved I think :o Na, I'm kidding, did you feel 'empty' during the phase when you were emotionally invested with the girl?
/r/seduction02/09/12 02:15 PM
1

In Ireland, I've never noticed this phenomenon of hb9s and 10's getting hit on less, nevermind the idea of them being 'lonelier'. Any truly hot girls have a whole social scene comprised of people of a similar 'standard'. I'd wager that this is an America-only thing.
/r/seduction02/09/12 02:11 PM
1

Na, i'm giving him full credit, i'm not trying to make the guy feel bad, but rather offer a possible explanation for why she turned so cold.
/r/seduction01/09/12 10:21 PM
1

Heh you know what i mean, in my country, you'd see it in teenage discos, or shitty adult clubs, you wouldn't tend to see it in decent venues.
/r/seduction01/09/12 10:20 PM
2

Seems like there's no reason to be awkward about running into her, if anything, she'll be an element of social proof when you're in the same place again
/r/seduction01/09/12 08:18 PM
3

No offense, because it sounds like you did great, but it seems like she went from being interested to uninterested. This conversation, and this line in particular, sounds a bit invested/needy: Her: "I'm working tomorrow, when are you guys playing here again?" Me: "Literally all-day tomorrow? All 24 hours? Personally I'd write it off. You probably won't hear the same line again
/r/seduction01/09/12 08:07 PM
9

Eh I guess it depends on your culture. Maybe it's normal in the states to publicly finger fuck someone, I dunno.
/r/seduction01/09/12 07:45 PM
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If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up, but any time I've seen it done, or done it when I was younger, or whatever, it's been roundly ridiculed by peers of both sexes. I think it comes across as immature and inexperienced. Something for teenage discos.
/r/seduction01/09/12 07:36 PM
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I keep hearing pua guys (Style, Mystery I think) saying that dancing is bad to do unless you're really exceptional, but this just doesnt jive with what ive seen. In my city, it's an essential feature of the nightlife, I can't do it to even a poor level of skill and I wish I could, so I'll be watching this thread with interest. I mean, it's even a feature of nearly every family celebration, it's surely a skill that would be good for anyone to learn...?
/r/seduction01/09/12 07:16 PM
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As exciting as it is to, for example, finger someone new in public, I wouldn't recommend it and wouldn't regard it as an accomplishment. I've known friends like yours. In my friends' case, they were shy and nerdy, but had built up quite an exciting life otherwise. I just saw their quick success as them learning how to share their exciting, if nerdy, life with people, whereas a lot of people try to build an exciting life through game.
/r/seduction01/09/12 07:08 PM
1

You might say that the proof is in the pudding. So maybe offer them some pudding. I'm only kidding, don't do that until after #close
/r/seduction01/09/12 06:53 PM
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Yeah. In addition to the cause and effect confusion, it's very easy, and necessary i guess, for a person to backward-rationalise poor decisions. If she wants to 'see' someone else (or, cheat), the OP is more than likely going to get a sob story from his sister explaining what drove her to cheat. It's a sad, common situation, but the guy will learn from it.
/r/seduction03/08/12 05:45 PM
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Not to defend him, or defend neediness, but he can probably clearly tell that she's seeing somebody else, via changes in her interactions with him. So, i dunno, she's effectively cheating on him; even if you have game up to the eyeballs, you'll probably be affected by your partner of a year+ cheating on you. He needs to dump her ass and find somebody that suits him better, because she's not good for him at all.
/r/seduction03/08/12 04:28 PM
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My favorite from past forays into online dating, although i've never come across it in real life: No messages from players/not into casual sex/if you just want a 'good time' don't message me I have had a lot of casual sex and it doesn't make me feel good, but I will continue to do it anyway. Message me if you want casual sex Personal rule: don't accept any girl into your life who views interactions with guys as a player/playee scenario; it seems to me that they learn this way of thinking via bad…
/r/seduction18/07/12 11:55 AM
2

What about putting out a fire?
/r/seduction27/06/12 04:57 PM
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I want to take a nap to relieve the headache brought on by the knowledge that someone can think in such a maladapted way. And i'll take it. I'm only kidding. I agree with OP; be nice, for your own peace of mind.
/r/seduction27/06/12 03:58 PM
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The outfits one...i'd never have thought of it, but god damn, imagine how great it'd be. You're walking to a cocktail party on a sunny evening, wearing shorts, perfectly tailored shirt, some sort of poncy jumper wrapped around your neck/shoulders, you arrive at the door of the soiree and BAM, you're suddenly wearing the best, most well fitting suit at the whole event. I like it.
/r/seduction27/06/12 03:53 PM
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Yeah exactly. Can i just add something though, because a lot of the comments in the thread are sort of missing the mark with a lot of these 'signals'. And I hope that younger, less relationship-experienced guys read what i'm about to say, because it's something that i had to come to terms with (very briefly and painlessly) when i was younger. This is more applicable to relationships than to seduction/pua: Most of these comments are simply describing confident women. Eye contact, smiling, using y…
/r/seduction27/06/12 02:37 PM
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Girls aren't used to guys keeping eye contact. I have girl friends who think that it's exceedingly strange when a guy insists on eye contact. But then, there are others who enjoy it. So if she's looking away, she's probably not comfortable with it yet. Drawing her eyes to yours will necessitate you breaking eye contact as much as you keep it; firm eye contact isn't the full story to keeping eye contact.
/r/seduction27/06/12 02:28 PM
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A girl can't make eye contact with a guy without the guy assuming that they're interested. So, apart from walking away, probably anything a girl does can be seen as a sign. This serves the guy well to think like this though. Personally i think the thing to do is to not look for signs as a form of green/red light, because these signs can be misinterpreted so badly. Just assume that everyone's interested. Watching for hair touches and smiles, and thinking that it means anything, is a game for fool…
/r/seduction27/06/12 11:23 AM
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I definitely agree. But what i will say is, observe these situations after you know the girls a little bit longer. My theory is that girls who'll reveal intimate details in such a manner, will also be quick to get into bed, will also be quick to express love for you, will also be quick to plan their future with you, will also be quick to be emotional, etc etc. My theory is also that these tendencies that i've noticed in certain girls also seem to fit quite closely to the symptoms of borderline p…
/r/seduction11/06/12 11:48 PM
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There's no reason at all to tell them you're a virgin. I was a late starter, and i told the girl i got with about it before getting with her was on the cards, and pretty soon after telling her, we fucked, and kept at it for maybe a month or something. My point is this. She didn't believe me that i was a virgin, our first time, to the point of being very upset thinking i'd lied to get her into bed. I felt silly for even mentioning it approximately 1.5 seconds after beginning 'the sex', because it…
/r/seduction02/06/12 09:22 AM
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I realised what 'be yourself' really meant during my last breakup. It's very easy to present a false image to people, but this eventually fades away when you're in a long term relationship: it's not possible to sustain it forever. What sucks more is when you realise that it was an accidental false self image that got you to the point you're at. For example, you pretend to yourself that you're more extroverted than you actually are. Whatever about people figuring out that your external image isn'…
/r/seduction11/05/12 12:24 PM
1

Are you concentrating too much on other things/gamey-aspects and spacing out? Or actively staring?
/r/seduction05/05/12 11:51 AM
1

But then, it comes naturally to some people. So if it doesn't come naturally to you, it is fake. Or is it? Does it matter?
/r/seduction05/05/12 11:47 AM
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Yeah, the idea isn't creepy. It's not...usual, but it's not creepy. I remember having a rude awakening to this when i was younger, and i was standing outside with a big group of people, after a fire alarm went off. And a friend of a friend turns to a proper good looking girl, points at her, and goes "YOU!! ...... You're the most beautiful girl i've ever seen". And my immediate reaction was to roll my eyes and think "bleh, what a shitty line". But the girl practically fucking melted in front of o…
/r/seduction06/03/12 01:15 PM
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To be honest, it strikes me as more of an American line to use. As in, here in Ireland, it would come across as creepy. That's not to say that it mightn't work here (in fact, i know it does), but it just seems a bit more...peppy...a bit American.
/r/seduction06/03/12 01:03 PM
1

Because he's using it to pick someone up...?
/r/seduction06/03/12 01:00 PM
1

Would this not always come across as very insecure...?
/r/seduction03/03/12 09:17 PM
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It may or may not be a shit-test. But it sure as hell doesn't make her come across as...nice. If you step back and see the forest from the trees, and don't focus on a perfect response, it was a fucking bizarre thing for her to say. It'd put my back up, she doesn't sound not high maintenance...
/r/seduction03/03/12 09:14 PM
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I'm just more curious as to how far things went before you went from 'normal stranger' to 'creep'. The word creep is thrown around fairly willy nilly, as in your example of simply being observant, so i wouldn't take it to heart or anything, but i'm still curious about it.
/r/seduction29/02/12 06:01 PM
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Once she sent that text, in fact, once you sent yours, you were trapped. Almost all of the responses here are making joke replies to her, but a dumb joke, after 3 dates, is just going to leave you stuck in the trap and flailing about like a chode. If you were already sexual with her, the jokes would be ok. But at this point, I think the best response to that text is either ignoring it, or to somehow flip it around on her, e.g. "Haha boy i ain't that easy!" -> "I hope you aren't suggesting that i…
/r/seduction29/02/12 05:47 PM
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I've heard that alot about Clinton, so i'm wondering if you could elaborate on it. Because as a non-American, he struck me as being a bit dim but nice, but i wouldn't have said he had 'charisma'. What was so charismatic?
/r/seduction29/02/12 05:32 PM
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How do you know girls have complained to bartenders, and what was the context? You were talking to them and your directness didn't come across well? Well done on everything.
/r/seduction29/02/12 05:18 PM
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Do you mean your literal voice? Or the voice of your personality or something? If you mean your actual voice, i'd love to hear peoples perspective on this too. My own voice can go from Barry White-esque to a feminine Ray Romano, and i'm not sure how to make it a certain way when i choose. I read some pop-analysis of some study once that showed women are more attracted to high testosteroned men, but the attraction was purely based on listening their voice. So i'm curious about it... Having said t…
/r/seduction16/02/12 08:24 PM
1

You'll be making your right hand your own with those lines. I'm not sure even Patrick Bateman could pull them off, with the benefit of having a chainsaw.
/r/seduction14/02/12 09:44 AM
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I dunno about you but, in my small city, every third guy is wearing a suit, in pubs etc, because they're just out of work. It doesn't seem like it'd be a big deal in even just a big town...?
/r/seduction13/02/12 01:15 PM
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Yeah, i wouldn't ever say any of them. Your "i just came from work" line in the other post is far better... :/
/r/seduction13/02/12 01:11 PM
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I think the point is the general idea of there being no ambiguity about how serious you are. Not verbally 'serious'...you could get across the same idea with a joke and smirk, but the point is that you aren't simply saying "don't do this!", which wont exhibit any real control, and not only that, will highlight to the girl that you're now invested in things and are basically under her control.
/r/seduction13/02/12 09:55 AM
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Oh this is what i was getting at, this is what he should do. The impression i was getting from the OP was the opposite to what you're saying.
/r/seduction12/02/12 09:46 PM
1

When you say 'try again later', what do you mean? Do you literally remove yourself from the situation for a while? Or do you just mean that she stays sitting on your lap and you give it another lash after 15 minutes.
/r/seduction12/02/12 08:40 PM
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Or i mean, you should say that you don't like whatever it is, if you literally just walked away at the first sign of disapproval you'd never get anywhere, but i guess the fundamental idea is that you have to be true to your own principles and standards. If somebody isn't a fit to your principles, it doesn't make sense to stick around forever, and so far as i have seen from a few past relationships, and this book, if you're willing to put up with shit, it'll be obvious to them at some level, whet…
/r/seduction12/02/12 08:28 PM
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I'm learning in my current relationship that it really does reek of neediness. You should check out that book. All i can say is, because i'm only learning myself, if you have certain principles (i.e. I'd prefer it if a girlfriend of mine didn't do x y z), then the best way to stick by them is to...stick by them, that is to say, you wont keep a girlfriend that does do those things. The process of demonstrating that you're willing to walk because of x y z, might change a behavior that you really d…
/r/seduction12/02/12 08:17 PM
2

I tried describing this book to a friend last night, and why i was so blown away by it. You read this book, and it feels like all of the ideas in, say, strauss' or mystery's or d'angelo's work, or pop-psychology, or whatever, were sort of accidentally gravitationally bound around the truths in this book. As if all of those other things were blindly hitting upon truths, and did improve peoples chances with picking people up or relationships or whatever, but only by accident. But this book has the…
/r/seduction12/02/12 08:14 PM
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Hrm, everyone seems to be saying "just tell her not to do it, this is alpha". Well this book i'm reading (which i'd recommend so far) seems to say that an alpha person wouldn't give a shit if she does something bad, and would simply cut them out. No threats, no warnings, they just wouldn't give enough of a shit to care what they do. Which makes sense in a way. But it also seems to say that a person who would say "don't do that" is effectively saying "i am needy and want to provide for you etc", …
/r/seduction12/02/12 04:17 PM
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Yeah definitely, but nerds tend not to. Not by choice either. So the whole exercise is fruitless. If you dressed a nerd up as a good looking jock (a la Beauty and the Geek) you'll witness the same effect; they don't really do any better just because the externalities don't matter half as much as the things that come from within (i.e. in this case, their personalities are screaming "i'm not actually a nerd", so the clothes don't change much)
/r/seduction30/12/11 10:14 AM
1

Yeah absolutely, a poorly timed/inappropriate compliment is as bad as a poor neg (sort of), but in the context of PUA, negging is particularly manipulative, and not necessarily a part of the same pie seeing as a lot of guys don't seem to neg naturally, that is to say, it's invoked to be purposely manipulative whereas a compliment may (or may not) be genuine, but is incidentally manipulative. So i still don't get why the guy is getting downvoted.
/r/seduction29/12/11 04:37 PM
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You're right, but it sort of invalidates the premise of the video. They may as well have just not dressed like nerds, it didn't make a difference.
/r/seduction29/12/11 04:33 PM
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But it's pretty obvious that it doesn't matter what you look like, depending on how well your confidence/attitude/personality/many other factors, make up for it. Two of those guys were also pretty good looking, nerd styling aside. Also, several girls said that they were creeped out, so a few other girls entertaining them for a few minutes isn't really a great sign.
/r/seduction29/12/11 04:32 PM
1

Honestly i think that it's fairly likely that most girls wouldn't notice a lack of skills. Every time you get with somebody new, you have to relearn everything to suit the new person anyway, i.e. nothing works the same for every girl (far from it, in fact). So it's not like you get better and better with each person. You might, but i've had enough situations that required a total sexual blank slate, just for us to get on the same page, that i know that you might as well be a virgin with every ne…
/r/seduction29/12/11 04:24 PM
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Could the downvoters point out what's wrong with what this guy said? Seems to me like it's the truth. Negging is manipulative, there's no two ways about it. I, and most guys i know, have still been naturally doing it since we were 4 years old, but it's still manipulative...
/r/seduction29/12/11 04:16 PM
1

What type of dancing do you do? And how does that fit with dancing in clubs? As in...how much of your pro dancing makes it to clubs? I presume very little after fundamentals..
/r/seduction18/12/11 08:07 PM
2

I'm a terrible terrible dancer and have absolutely no inherent ability to analyze it or whatever...but you can surely see a major difference in 'goodness' from the guy, over the girl. If i saw her video in isolation i'd go 'yeh thats cool, wish i could do that', but she looks like she's clomping around in cement shoes compared to that other guy... (still wish i could do it though)
/r/seduction18/12/11 08:03 PM
2

Of course being genuinely nice is possible. I'm talking about guys that cling on around girls in the hope of getting something in return (i.e. sex/relationship). If you're hoping to get something, anything you do is tainted/coloured by your secret weak desires, it can't not be; that's manipulation, not 'niceness'.
/r/seduction24/10/11 08:00 PM
2

As a regular non-dangerous-bad-boy man, and without meaning to sound inflammatory, 'weakness' is as bad a trait as the 'niceness' talked about in the OP. If he's staying around in the hope of something, that's weak, and even if he is genuinely nice (which i don't believe is possible), that's bad enough. Edit: Just to clarify, i'm not talking about physical 'weakness'. A man can be as quiet as a mouse, 110lb's wet with zero bravery or guile, and if that's the case then maybe he wont be able to sa…
/r/seduction24/10/11 01:22 PM
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I get it a lot from girls that I'm interested in/they're interested in me. It's just one of those phrases I've noticed I get a lot. it may even be a way a woman gauges whether or not I'll step up and make a move on her I don't mean to say that you shouldn't analyze things. But. There's probably a bit of confirmation bias + over-analyzing going on here. Everybody says that they're tired at some point, to you. Maybe they're just tired. If you started paying attention to how often girls say "i'm hu…
/r/seduction23/10/11 11:17 PM
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Another way to look at your quote there might be: while she does moan about it, she tends to go out with meatheads who don't want to talk about politics on dinner+movie dates. Alot of people think they're more wordly/sophisticated/educated than they are, perhaps she doesn't actually give a shit about being able to talk politics. So maybe she doesn't want to get hustled into going to a lecture that she isn't obliged to go to. No offense (because it does sound like you know what you're doing), but…
/r/seduction23/10/11 03:37 PM
1

I've found that some girls wont react well at all to 'jokes' or negging to do with discussion about personality traits, even if they're normally cool. So from what i can tell from experience...if she's telling you that she's unique (for example), it's possibly a sore point for her, i.e. that she thinks she isn't unique and is trying to get affirmation, and it's not something you'd want to prod. Some of the time anyway. Having said that, it's fucking annoying when somebody is clearly fishing for …
/r/seduction11/10/11 09:26 PM
1

That's why i was saying that it'd be best to see a physio (i'm not one). I had/still have a tendency to tilt my hips forward, arching my lower back. Which in turn pulls your head forward and slumps your shoulders. It also makes your stomach look fat even if it's not, because the arched backed makes your stomach arch out too. Anyway, if you did have scoliosis just make an appointment if you can. BUT, what you're saying there about holding your head back and looking down, that's kind of one of the…
/r/seduction07/10/11 08:13 PM
1

I agree with you mostly, except, in my experience it does work. BUT. I put it all down to something akin to what this famousy quote is trying to get across: "Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt". Basically, if you're a noisy talkative chodey loser naturally, you'll probably get better results shutting the fuck up and pretending that you're mysterious. But you better have a backup plan once you get talking to someone.
/r/seduction06/10/11 05:27 PM
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If it looked ridiculous, you might be arching your lower back. It's extremely hard to have your head in its proper position with this problem. Look up lordosis, posterior pelvic tilt, foward head posture. I'm not saying you do have it, but just in case, cause it can be worked on easily. It's extremely common with people who sit at a desk for a living. Edit: Oh and if you do have this, don't just force your head back because you'll kill the back of your neck. See a physio or something.
/r/seduction06/10/11 05:12 PM
2

By the way, i wasn't ragging on your wall suggestion dwinian, it's good, it's just that when you say 'learn what it feels like to stand that way'...that's the really difficult part.
/r/seduction06/10/11 03:14 PM
1

Tbh i'd take that as a bad sign, no matter what you want (casual, relationship etc). Put it this way, in PUA terms, and knowing what you know, if 'breaking hearts' was part of her 'frame' you'd probably run a mile, no? Well, some girls just do think like that.
/r/seduction06/10/11 02:09 PM
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What does your broad shoulders have to do with posture? Standing up straight doesn't mean you have to be a dick barging people out of the way. The language you're using suggests that you're almost trying to sink into yourself, make yourself smaller. That's not attractive, no matter how warm you are deep down inside. Edit: Just to add...i don't mean that in a harsh way, bad posture just stands out a mile, you can spot bad posture from a distance before almost anything else. And it terms of women,…
/r/seduction06/10/11 02:04 PM
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I think, out of every other one listed here, posture is probably the most important. A bad posture almost literally conveys the weight of the world being on one's shoulders, and it isn't attractive. And i can guarantee that a guy who is relaxed, with perfect posture, will look far more alpha at the back of a group than some nerdy douche with slumped shoulders who keeps barging his way to the front of groups to 'lead them'. 'Posture' is also a good analogy for the amount of work that any of these…
/r/seduction06/10/11 02:02 PM
2

This is pure cockblockery and in my experience, fairly hard (on the spot) to get around. I have a friend who's an expert at this and it always seems to work (i.e. seeing him do it to other people); what seems to make it worse is when the cockblocked person sits like an embarrassed turnip, glowing red. I don't think you could say something to definitely get around it, but at the very least don't look like it's affected you, because if you look awkward, alot of these lines people are telling you t…
/r/seduction28/09/11 08:27 PM
1

When you say 'stopped improving', who are you improving for, what are you improving, and what's the point in improving (i know the point obviously but it's the motivation that i'm questioning)? By definition, if you're improving for yourself, that's 'being yourself'. Of course you could say that the article is talking about improving yourself for yourself, but it's not. It encourages you to think about what's cool, which is generally what society has deemed cool, then decide whether "that's you"…
/r/seduction27/09/11 03:23 PM
1

That sounds right man, but there's a semantic difference between both of your points. LesbianPUA calls it 'defining yourself' by what you've done, are doing, will do. And you're calling that 'framing'. Maybe they kind of mean the same thing, but to me, 'framing' has the same implication of 'creation' that the article has, whereas defining yourself by actions has more of a 'just be' feel to it. I think your second paragraph is assuming that every guy who doesn't want to learn is hopeless. Anecdot…
/r/seduction27/09/11 12:30 PM
1

I think 'fakeness' is too divisive a term to use here, but you're totally right.
/r/seduction26/09/11 10:55 PM
1

Yeah you're absolutely right, It's often used wrongly in mainstream culture, and that's why it hit me like a ton of bricks. Up to that point, i had become almost indoctrinated into thinking that it was wrong, which possibly led to me creating conflicting ideas about my self-image/desired-image. Having said that, and to play devil's advocate against both of us, i know at least a few friends who turn into weirdos around girls. Like extremely funny interesting guys, who may happen to be nerds for e…
/r/seduction26/09/11 09:11 PM
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The article writer doesn't understand the whole spirit of the phrase 'be yourself' and is putting way too much of a 'PUA' slant on it. For one thing, in the terms that the article writer is talking about, anecdotally i'm sure we all know lots of people who don't 'self improve', but they're just cool enough, tough enough, funny enough etc etc that it doesn't matter. Obviously if you dress badly and have no personal hygiene then you'll be working against yourself, but anecdotally, i'm sure we all …
/r/seduction26/09/11 08:49 PM
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