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You don't have to be eating disordered to order a little self-control with your fries, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:57 PM
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Or, hear me out, you're all delusional about your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 12:40 PM
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Stop telling women our own experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:20 AM
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Welp, I don't date conventionally attractive trad men, they're repulsive. So idk what else to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:46 PM
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Yup, you're convinced of the truthiness of your lie that the actual truth of my life doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:46 PM
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please, I just ate
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:02 AM
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I said major. Like... the kind that comes from eating too much, not the kind that comes from a bit of sagging skin in your fifties/sixties.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:59 PM
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Eh, idgaf about jawlines unless you've got major jowls. A lot of men obsess over their jawlines to the point of crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:48 PM
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KING
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:46 PM
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Him too
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:18 PM
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That's generally considered rude?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:17 PM
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based
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:14 PM
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That format... wait for it... is stupid. No wonder people fail so hard on the apps. You can't fucking talk with each other without both swiping right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:14 PM
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In no way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:10 PM
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He's cuter without the beard
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:10 PM
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Can they at least keep their beards shorter than some Viking?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:00 PM
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Goddamn, if that's really you, Chad's in the house
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:59 PM
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I don't get to send first messages if I swipe right. I get to wait for them to Notice Me, Sensei
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:58 PM
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It's like... eight out of ten dudes on the apps!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:58 PM
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I think it was Eulen who said that men in her community are surprised when women want to date someone who is not just prettier than a gorilla...? That's true of a LOT of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:54 PM
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Q4M: Why do you all have beards nowadays, even the ones with good chins underneath?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:46 PM
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Bumble was a woman-centric app started by a woman CEO Yeah, was, those days are over
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:36 PM
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When we find a compelling enough reason to do so. Running errands, going to events that matter, seeing local friends (many of us have long-distance friendships), work, sometimes church, and oh yes going on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:05 PM
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Being a trad woman would suck so much for me that the tradeoff wouldn't be worth it. Better alone in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 03:21 PM
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Woman makes point contrary to yours? Has to be a lie, you couldn't be wrong or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 03:19 PM
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That's not a loaded question or anything. It's not a question at all, in fact. It's assvice disguised as a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:44 AM
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Men have their own bullshit, but I like them. It comes with the territory. Dating people means you take the good with the bad. No, you don't have to like it. But if you're "constantly toning [yourself] down" because otherwise the person you're dating is insufferable, make yourselves both happier and date other people! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:11 AM
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People who call it "female bullshit" probably should stick to ONS? If you don't like women, don't have relationships with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:36 PM
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This sub has a penchant for ignoring the very real middle ground: the guy who isn't a jerk or a simp and looks good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:34 PM
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Given the work she had done in the runup to becoming Mrs Bezos, I'm thinking she's absolutely male-centered. What woman wants to look like that for herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:31 PM
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This is why I like being bi :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:30 PM
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Men will uplift male centered women online just to push their idiotic worldview, then ignore the same woman irl in favor of some lib if she's better looking. Consider: they pick the lib because they think she's easier. Be a lib who doesn't drop her panties and they call you nasty things all the same. So there's no reward for being a woman, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:22 PM
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Actually? Mid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:40 PM
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Metaphor for missionary work. :) But if I weren't a Christian, sus.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:48 PM
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I don't date missionaries, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:46 PM
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That he's a crazy fucking cultist
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:45 PM
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Yup, and that's why the dude who fishes is a left swipe for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:39 PM
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"Follow me and I will make you fishers of women" what these bros probably heard
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:38 PM
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I don't fish, I don't want to be a fishing widow, I don't like seeing my meat before it's been processed. It's pretty simple. Fishing enthusiasts just are not my guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:36 PM
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Unusually dim women's minds, perhaps. Women with two brain cells to rub together have figured out that if he will cheat with us, he will cheat on us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:46 PM
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I think your friends' complaint is the more likely scenario. I see a ring, I back right the fuck off. It's a big red NOT FOR ME flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:44 PM
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Then cope with nothing. You don't need it. You just want it. You evidently want it more than you want a relationship with your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:49 AM
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Women in their prime(up to their late 20's) who are in relationships where they genuinely desire the man they're with, are always aroused No. I remember being in my prime. I was not always aroused in my relationship with my partner. Even when I wanted to be. I desired him, I loved him, I damn well didn't settle for him -- but I was not always aroused the way he was, and in time that led to, yes, duty sex. Because I felt like I could not say no without consequences. And I came to resent him, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:47 AM
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If I had to guess, it's because she doesn't need his resources, so they're no reward for duty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:44 AM
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omfg, or he can be an adult and deal with his blue balls by having a wank
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:36 AM
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I called average every-American stupid, regardless of gender. Misanthropy, not misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 01:37 AM
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I think you have to account for average people being average levels of intelligent -- so, in the US, lowkey stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 01:00 AM
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I respect the hell out of both of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:54 AM
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It's our superpower :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:50 AM
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My dad was married to a millionaire before my mum. No shit, there he was, wed to the daughter of a Greek shipping magnate. Living the high life. But she was a terrible wife, and cheated on him, and he noped out in favour of my mum, who was brought up in post-WWII poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:49 AM
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Vomit up my last week of meals, right on his shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:47 AM
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Really? My Insta is full of cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:47 AM
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So, I'm old enough to know how stupid Veblen goods are. But I'm also old enough to know that being cheap for the sake of it (or for the sake of dying rich and never really living) is joyless. The partner I want buys things that are quality enough. Brands don't matter if the item is good. I would not partner with a cheap jerk. Or a hobosexual. But if they're doing all right, they're just not flaunting it, then they're right in line with my own value system. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:46 AM
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Yup, that's just humanity for you. People are seldom purely one sort or another; we pick and choose our values depending on the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:31 AM
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Here, learn something cool: https://theconversation.com/the-fragility-of-womens-rights-how-female-guilds-wielded-power-long-ago-73265 [edit] And extra shit about women's reality pre-America: http://dankoboldt.com/female-professions-medieval-europe/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:34 AM
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I don't vet men for hookups because tbh, hookups with men are not appealing. I vet for relationships by evaluating how compatible our lives and values are, and whether I want to kiss this person stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:49 AM
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The leopards might literally eat your face if we return to the way things were. Can you outrun a pissed-off predator?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:46 AM
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It's like you missed the entire 1700s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:42 AM
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Crack a history book
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:41 AM
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If not for the debate around God's gender, you might have a shred of a point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:38 AM
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Exactly where are you getting this idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:36 AM
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Advice from women, mainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:32 AM
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I think it might be. The secret to the secret: never having children, I guess. Most US women have reproduced by 39.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:51 PM
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This is the entire secret of my success: I am 39 and still a size 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:39 PM
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Way better looking without the beard, holy crap!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:38 PM
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Nope, she mogs him
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:37 PM
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Ugly is as ugly does. Like, for instance, men making baseless assumptions about women they don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:04 PM
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Your assertion about me is grounded in red pill fallacies. Sorry to disappoint. Not sorry to disappoint the "handsome" Trump supporter, though (they all become ugly as soon as I learn that about them).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:30 PM
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The real numbers on this will never be known, but also nuns likely did not take lovers in vast numbers, so... there's celibacy in a population less likely to be driven by testosterone to make lust-driven decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:59 PM
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I live in an area where the conservatives definitely outnumber the liberals -- blue city, one or two blue 'burbs, most of the county is red. Also, himbo, you don't need to explain to me that I can just date girls without needing a reason for it. Thanks for assuming I have all the wit of a three-year-old.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:58 PM
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Do they somehow think the childless cat ladies wouldn't be with decent partners if we could? Say I'm propositioned by two equally attractive men, all else being great about them, but one voted for the shambling trash pile that calls himself POTUS and the other is a sane, progressive man. I know which one I'd fuck. The right doesn't want me to be happy as a woman alone, it wants me to buy the idea that I should fuck conservatives. So no, I'm not doing what they want. I'm not going for their idea …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:20 PM
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you're the one putting sex above gender, here, that is classic trans exclusion, the TE in "TERF".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:07 PM
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idk, smells like TERF spirit to me, but you go, girl, you show those penis-toutin' women that their partners must be gay
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:02 PM
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Okay, reading further than the definition: "Gilligan observed that measuring moral development by Kohlberg's stages of moral development found boys to be more morally mature than girls, and this result held for adults as well (although when education is controlled for there are no gender differences)." So... Gilligan wrote In A Different Voice in 1982. The book is older than I am, and I'm pushing forty. I would be interested to see how things have changed since then, because Kohlberg makes sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:35 PM
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Flaming no. A man attracted to a woman is straight regardless of what's in her undies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:52 PM
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Hey, volcels are awesome. :) I genuinely wish you luck. And yeah, don't look on Reddit for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:51 PM
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Men aren’t necessarily morally superior, but they are more morally developed. Bro, how?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:49 PM
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But that's not what right-wingers want. The right does not want more childless cat ladies, and it definitely does not want us to have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:46 PM
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You can opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:39 PM
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When you bring the word hypergamy on the table they will object and say it doesn’t exist, but if you say women will date a man at least on their level minimum they will nod along. That's not hypergamy. on contrary women will agree the same ideas coming from an attractive man even internalize and defend them against you. Those are called pickmes, and the most they'll be picked for is what's between their legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:36 PM
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When discussing relationships, sure. When determining whether it makes you gay, straight, or something in between, different importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:30 PM
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I choose not to treat another human being as a consumable. That's my line in the sand. The US government agrees with me that this is wrong and has chosen to treat it as criminal. I suggest other ways of treating a human as a consumable should also be made criminal. Perfectly logical to me, since market pressure never changed a damn thing under capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 02:14 AM
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"Choice". Used to justify every pro-patriarchy decision a woman makes. Women have autonomy. Some of them fuck it up and make bad choices. Like putting their vaginas on the market like some sort of commodity. Chh. Literal slavery is right up there with rape on the list of Big Fuckin' Evils. Fair wages would be bloody nice, but also that's not on the individual to solve, that's on the governments of the countries that either enslave or all but enslave their workers. Including, in certain places, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:52 AM
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You can say the quiet part out loud, 'phobe
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:40 AM
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You see nothing wrong with reducing people to their genitals? That's... not how I do trans allyship, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:38 AM
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The theft of your labour is not as intimate a violation as rape. Until people accept this sad reality, they'll keep making comparisons between factory workers and trafficked women. All while, of course, arguing that because some women find prostitution is empowering, it should be accessible to... hmmm, which gender buys sex more often...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:35 AM
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It is generally accepted by thinking human beings that death by exposure is a thing. Death by celibacy is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:28 AM
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I don't believe there is such a thing as a safe enough, regulated enough space for prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:07 AM
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Actually, given that people tend to die in horrible ways without it, I'd suggest health care is indeed a need and should therefore be a human right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:20 PM
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Neither of those things are rights for men, either. No gender is entitled to power.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:16 PM
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Reproduction is only a need if you believe the species needs to continue... and I don't :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:13 PM
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It literally is not, or legions of monks and priests would all have dropped dead of celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:11 PM
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Bro, if you showed up on my doorstep on a frozen fucking night, I would let you sleep on my couch. Shelter would indeed be a need for you at that point, and so I would feel myself obliged to meet it. In the morning we could find you a different situation. But I would pay more taxes if that tax money ensured that a situation for you could be found. No-one should go unhoused in a developed nation. Also, call me crazy, but I think the US government should be obliged to provide reliable public trans…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:10 PM
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they’ll still become severely malnourished without other forms of nutrition and suffer a severe decrease in their overall quality of life If the malnutrition would kill them, guess what: a more diverse diet is a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:07 PM
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Yes! And stop having sex with him, and go find a better life. With or without a man in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:06 PM
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You could also twist it to mean that women lose nothing if they have sex with these men. Just those men's respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:04 PM
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Housing isn't a need. Yeah being stuck outside during nights can have a bunch of problems along with it, but the lack of a house won't be what kills you. Maybe the cold or a malicious person, but not simply being homeless. Live where I do, you'll be singing a different song round about October.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:03 PM
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Hi, hello, can we come back to this reality in which dehydration will kill you but nobody ever died of blue balls?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:03 PM
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Or we can turn to toys and each other for comfort. At the end of the day, no pizza beats terrible pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:02 PM
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Not if bad actors are hiding people who've been trafficked in plain sight among the people who (supposedly) want to provide it in exchange for payment or bartered services. The safety of the most vulnerable should be what concerns us, yet here we are, chiming in with "Don't forget legal whoring!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:58 PM
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So love is conditional on sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:57 PM
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That's not quite the same as demanding love and sex from a non-consenting human. Bots don't have or need rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:56 PM
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Who deems you average if not the people you're trying to attract? Think about it: if men swear up and down that This Is The Average Guy, but all the "average guys" out there find themselves striking out with women, could it not possibly be that they have overestimated their looks a touch?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:51 PM
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I always want to slap the asker upside the head and say "You just did, next time come straight out with it." But I wasn't born in a goddamn barn, so I resist the urge.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:33 PM
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You couldn't be more right!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:29 PM
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You know? There's a reason I'm more sex-positive about my queer relationships than my straight-passing ones. The people who devalue my body for the number of partners I've had have been, by and large, male. Now, why would I want to go to bed with someone who sees me as less-than because I did it? So... I'm not as open to sex with men. Because in the end, a lot of their motivations seem to boil down to getting what they can from me, then turning around to sneer at me at best. Whereas with a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:15 PM
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It wasn't for me when I was in my early twenties! Then as now, I cared very much that he could support himself and showed some signs of intelligence. I aimed older because men my age by and large weren't that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:19 PM
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Thank God for that, fifteen is a bit young
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:15 PM
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wait, he's advocating for men in their 30s (his direct competition) to go after women his own age? Okay!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:12 PM
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In Soviet Russia, kid has you at 74
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 12:59 PM
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Hey, men may prefer to have their own kids with a woman, but considering what keeps swiping right on me, they expect avowed childfree women to fall all over their single dad asses. How are the single dads foisting their offspring onto me any different from the single mums who have the nerve to want to date men without children, many of whom are a "not yet" as opposed to an absolute no the way I am?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:13 PM
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It would, but some people are invested in being edgelords.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:10 PM
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Just don't be shocked when the leopards eat your faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 12:37 PM
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Good for them. I'm not obliged to approve.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:42 PM
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This was well-said. Thank you for the education.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:21 AM
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My family goes wherever they please with no repercussions back home. Don't know who's preying on your family, but mine has never experienced what you are talking about. My aunt has, however, been grateful for the immigrants who were willing to do the same thankless work alongside her (caring for the elderly).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:21 PM
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My mother has a green card, you absolute nit. She has the right to come back in. As did one of the Germans detained at the US border. You have no concept of what it's like to be part of an immigrant family, nor any compassion. I pray that you don't have to gain that compassion the hard way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:17 PM
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All you need to do is look at their treatment of non-citizens. Yes, even the ones who are allowed to be here. I'm sorry, but a world in which they might detain a 68-year-old woman based on the contents of her phone (those contents being anything less than praise of Trump) is fash enough for me. Incidentally, this is also why my mother can't just go see her sister. They might not let her back in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:31 PM
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Sex is so much more than a service. Some of us treat the intimate parts of our bodies as more than a plumber's tools.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:14 PM
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You could sub in "developing country" and the sentiments would still parse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:12 PM
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Unlike Americans, Germans no longer cave to fascist bastards. We learned from our mistakes. Nie wieder is nie wieder, and we seem pretty determined to keep it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:49 PM
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"Hair of the dog" actually makes sense to me because you're weaning from the alcohol you had last night. A little more alcohol makes the crash suck less.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:45 PM
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The fat, slovenly, smelly person. Short and ugly and well-groomed is still following certain social rules (be neat, don't stink).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:41 PM
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His companionship? His love? And parenthood doesn't end when your child goes to kindergarten.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:35 PM
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Marriage is a nice institution to have if you want the legal rights and economic privileges that come with being married to your partner. If those legal rights and economic privileges are irrelevant to you, naturally you won't seek them. I am personally on the fence about the whole thing. I am also not looking for a man to supply stability. Just to be stable in himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:33 PM
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Tennis players are hotter than quarterbacks. Also, fewer of their brain cells have been sacrificed to their sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:31 PM
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The AfD are just Diet Nazis. We have a problem with that, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:23 PM
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I never thought I'd say this, but... you should go to RedPillWomen for tips on how to rescue your marriage. Women can change themselves to inspire men to want them more, and those women know a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:30 AM
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This would make a compelling novel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:28 AM
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None taken! Turns out I'm quite stereotypical in Japan, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 11:27 PM
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Thank you! He's going to get the full-on "I exfoliated and shaved and lotioned for you" treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:47 PM
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Okay. Acknowledging that you do a lot of the physical work: we do a lot of the emotional work, and hold a lot of the jobs that require certain skills that many of you disdain. You may also say we're incompetent at white- and pink-collar work, and sure, some are. I have also known men who were incompetent at the blue-collar work that is so vital.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:45 PM
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My mother, no lie, has expressed interest in roadworks. Like... if she were thirty years younger, she would probably say "Screw it, what's the best-paying manual labour I can find?" and go do that. She's 72 and retired now, but I think if someone posted an ad for a sign holder at a worksite, she would go do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:41 PM
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Mmh. No, I tend to go for anime about contemporary life and reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:28 PM
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Can confirm. The worst human beings in my high school were the unpopular-by-choice alt kids, who definitely bullied anyone who didn't fit their narrow definition of what was cool. The actual popular kids, by about age fourteen-fifteen, outgrew that mindset and had lots of friends for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:22 PM
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I definitely got funnier as I aged! It comes with giving less of a fuck about your image. Also, I think I'm a man, because noodling about hypotheticals can be such fun with the right person. And I love history over pottery/dance/art/crochet if we're talking clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:20 PM
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Facts. I am having such the best time flirting with a man in the runup to seeing him Saturday night -- he's got a golden, gorgeous mind. And he sure as heck doesn't think I'm boring :D
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:18 PM
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For the right anime, dramas, and games, I would be fine!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 05:52 PM
1

Whoops, line breaks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 05:12 PM
1

SECOND/THIRD
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:26 AM
1

I would be downright ashamed to post that. Please tell me it's satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:16 AM
3

The consent/exploitation is the key for me. The erotic nature of the content is fine, although beware of getting too hooked on porn to appreciate reality, or thinking that porn sex must be emulated in reality (it is fantasy, nobody is supposed to be reenacting scenes from The Lady and The Laird in their own homes, either).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:49 AM
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So be sweet and kind to mother now and then, have a chat Buy her candy or some flowers or a brand new hat But maybe you had better let it go at that Or you may find yourself with a quite complex complex And you may end up like Oedipus I'd rather marry a duck-billed platypus Than end up like old Oedipus Rex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:43 AM
5

I piss on Fifty Shades pretty hard, actually. It has the gall to be a shitty representation of kink and be terribly-written.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:00 AM
3

I've seen a lot of men resentful of women's romance reading habits and equating it to live-action porn. To me, that comparison is ludicrous because no actual human beings were exploited in the writing of the smut, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:58 AM
0

Do you not understand why the great queens of history are in fact great? Boudicca, Catherine, both Elizabeths?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:26 PM
0

So you're just lazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:19 PM
0

Rejection sucks if you get overly invested before you approach. The reality of it is that most people are not worth getting seriously butthurt over -- especially if you know that in the end, you are the only person you can guarantee you'll have, and are ready to be happy in yourself. Maybe I'm just cut from sturdier cloth than a lot of women, idk. But it's honestly not that much of a bummer when a guy rejects me. I still have my health, my family, and my job. Priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:14 PM
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Approaching isn't painful. Let's not catastrophise here. If you approach and you're turned down, a mature person will shrug and say "Well, I tried!" and move on. There are no pressures on us to let men approach. Do you know who seems to shame women for approaching? Female dating coaches. The women who listen to them. That crowd. The crowd that makes us all look like fragile spoilt princesses. Do you want to be a fragile spoilt princess, or do you want to be a queen?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:00 PM
1

Yes, actually. I'm a dual national.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:03 PM
1

That was driven by more factors than just "men butthurt". Please do not claim to understand the nuances when you weren't here living through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:43 PM
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Nope, you can be single all you like and I don't mind :) You're still people, you still deserve social support, etc. Don't settle for a life that will not make you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:39 PM
2

Found the other pragmatist in the room :D
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:04 AM
1

I personally will not screw a conservative, especially on immigration, considering. You know. The immigrant in my household. Also, tax the rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:28 PM
5

Oh. My. God. Well, Taylor doesn't need anyone to be the brains of her operation, I guess... but damn, he's gotta be good in bed if she can put up with how fucking boring he must be everywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:20 PM
2

wait what now
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:30 PM
1

I know I don't conform as well as a tradcon would like, or for that matter a lot of people here, even some of the blue pillers. Never had it in my household growing up, don't miss it. If I have to choose, make it model 1, but with a dash of model 2 to allow for certain inherent differences in anatomy/hormone makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:26 PM
5

This is why, if they're really about decentering, people will naturally cycle out, into groups that are more about their own experiences and less about their experiences of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:28 PM
2

You're actually wrong about this, at least in my case. When I briefly went 4B, in order to reexamine my life, I was 37 and having lots of luck dating... just not the kind of luck I wanted. I wasn't too ugly or too old to get a date. I had my head on wrong and didn't know what to do with what I was getting. I spent a year and change off the market (late 2023-early 2025). I turned 38. I turned, gasp, 39. I cut my hair. I grew my hair. I no longer subscribe to any particular philosophy around datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:27 PM
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Knowing you didn't mean it as a criticism makes it suck less to hear, so thank you. And yeah, I know that in the early days of a relationship, being stuck with only dating Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights (and Friday afternoons and weekend days, of course) makes me less than perfect by a long shot. But the same job allows me to come home at a decent hour, unwind with a partner, and be an actual delight to live with. Also, I get allllll the holidays. My total time off throughout the year wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:10 PM
1

For once, I'm glad I live in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:00 PM
2

My mother had me in the middle of her degree. Worked out for her just fine, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:26 PM
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If it runs in the family, it runs in the family. I can trace a direct line from my grandfather to my aunt/uncle/mum (yeah, all three got hit in their own way) to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:58 PM
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The people who are looking for relationships on there tend to be damaged in some way that they don't have better options I have a job that keeps me from hitting the local social scene, not to mention I live a long way from said social scene and I'm a homebody. I love my friends, but none of them know anyone for me to date. I'd rather not pay a matchmaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:55 PM
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Well, there's your problem. Hot girls trend liberal. I don't make the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:51 PM
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What do you think she really wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:39 PM
2

Women saying "Well, of course it's normal to be attracted to your partner" are automatically ruling out men they find unattractive, no? Therefore the problem lies here. He may actually be too weird-looking to date for her. We have to want to go to bed with them in order for a relationship to work -- at some point in the relationship! The bar isn't in hell. We all just think different things are hot. You find out while you're dating (and hopefully making out) whether the rest of him is truly what…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:21 PM
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5) He may not be Hot (or Ugly!), but he clearly takes care of his hygeine, grooms, dresses well, and is in decent shape, etc. Everyone knows, but no-one is saying, that it's this one. Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 12:59 PM
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Honey, these men are in bed with other men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 12:44 PM
0

Ah, yeah. That kinda tracks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:29 AM
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I like work. Even if I retired tomorrow because I won the lottery, I'd pick up a side hustle. This is not an alternative. This is the life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:45 AM
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Are you dating Hitler? I hear he's only got one ball
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 05:40 PM
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But we can kick that can down the road while he's in grad school. Then we'll see what settles out. With him, I'm not afraid of that. Past Flora, you absolutely are afraid of that, because he's moving from mildew and ghosts to just mildew, and no room for you in his hole in the wall bachelor flat. Also, no. visible. income. So how's he supporting himself?! Woman, get a GRIP, let him GO, you are not his MOTHER
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 05:39 PM
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I need a do-over on, oh, the last 48 hours
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 01:25 AM
1

Don't be disingenuous about this. You know precisely what I mean when I'm talking about lying to get what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:04 PM
2

I believe liars lie, and that tricksters trick, and that it's the liar/trickster's fault. Nobody, man, woman, or otherwise, is immune.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:28 PM
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It's simpler than you know to lie to get what you want. If you don't do it, I'm proud of you. I have met men who have done that. It's as easy as not telling the whole truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:26 PM
2

Which is why I don't want a rich man or a built one. Those lifestyles are headaches for the women who love men like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:19 PM
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Oh. No, that part is absolute bullshit. No-one can "sense" bad vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:13 PM
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Empathy and intuition aren't clairvoyance, and yes, some men are exceptional actors when it comes to getting what they want (a woman on the hook indefinitely).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:12 PM
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In retrospect: yes, because the men themselves on some level weren't right enough on a fundamental level. Not the stupid 6-6-6, but I had some superficial things that I thought could make up for not fundamentally getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:16 AM
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I think I've found the person I would not actually betray for a fortune, and a life of ease for my family, because thinking about doing so makes me completely sick to my stomach. No-one gets me like he does. I don't think about all the checklisty things that get talked about here on PPD. I just think: isn't it exciting to have a best friend and a lover in one person? But also that we may need to find a larger place if we ever move in together, between his books, my books, and my wardrobe. To say…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:52 AM
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HOW
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:56 AM
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Chopin probably slew in his day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:23 AM
1

Wait, why wouldn't you want to talk about fashion and go to girly mimosa brunch with someone you love?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:24 AM
1

Beats me. I'd love this vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:07 AM
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Oh, you think it's that simple. No. It's not. Sorry. I honestly operate on vibes, once the basic requirement of "want to snog him stupid" and "isn't a fascist" have been met.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:14 AM
3

I quit 4B when I realised that in fact they would not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:29 AM
1

Too bad. Don't text him. Be a woman instead of a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:26 AM
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Based in misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:23 AM
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"I can't make my already reduced $700 rent, so I'm on welfare. Oh, yeah, my art means more to me than covering my expenses. Hey, where are you going? You paid for that Italian soda -- well, if you don't want to finish it, I will!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:22 AM
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You don't know for certain whether a GSW will turn out to be fatal or maiming, or just a nothingburger. Even a shot to the hand carries the risk of infection and a long recovery time. Not justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:15 AM
2

Ironically, the phrase "me too" applies here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:59 AM
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He was trying to get away from her and she would not stop, effectively, sexually assaulting him? It was self-defence, and she can piss off into the night.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:58 AM
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I know a tad bit about domestic abuse, given how often I deal with survivors in my line of work, and oh yes I am one myself. So... actually, they tend to be hard to spot, because they're very good at making themselves palatable enough to gain control of their victim. Very, very good. So good that some victims don't realise how cooked they are until the abuser has swept away all of their support and means of escape.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:47 AM
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I could roll with that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:30 PM
2

Yup! Put two equivalent men side by side -- the liberal is getting some.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:58 PM
2

I... have money too? Where are you getting the notion that women don't have money to pay workmen?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:23 PM
4

That's not necessarily happiness qua happiness. Even at my happiest, my brain makes the wrong proportion of chemicals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:22 PM
1

Wait, Cjay is a woman? I always thought they were male O.O
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:19 PM
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You're off by a few years there. The germ of the 1950s ideal hits when we develop a robust middle class due to industrialisation along with the Victorian "angel in the home" idea. Pairing off is older than that (see the "leave and cleave" concept in the Bible) but families don't seem to nucleate quite as solidly until, say, 1830-1850. Even then, many families remain extended for various reasons. Now, if we're talking purely "the norm was to marry and have children", you're off by a value of cent…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:18 PM
2

Do you know how hard it is to prove cheating or beating?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:01 PM
1

You presume I don't already approach, but sure, I'd keep approaching. But how do I know he's the one? Do I get some kind of glowing bat signal that I should stop here?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:51 PM
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Fault being harder to prove, couples were stuck together. So no shit more couples are splitting under no-fault conditions. Now stop gooning to the idea of loveless marriages being dragged out ad infinitum.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:50 PM
1

Yup, that explains it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:40 AM
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I've tried finding left-leaning Christians, the majority of them are married by the age of thirty so I sure hope you're younger than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:03 AM
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Normalize just... marrying a person without a goddamn checklist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:53 PM
1

There is such a monster as choice feminism, but it's best practiced only if you're in the habit of considering your choices in contexts like "is this choice beneficial to a woman when she makes it, or is it more beneficial to someone who is exploiting that woman?" (e.g. in the case of sex work).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:41 PM
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You were shaming, too. "So damned entitled" etc? I'm sorry, how is that not an attempt at "social violence" (please, I'm begging you, put on your big boy britches and realise how cringe this concept is)? I returned what I got. I'm grateful to them. What I don't do is fall all over myself to fawn over them in Reddit posts. I'm not going to make grand gestures to appease one butthurt Redditor. Not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:48 PM
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Believing that men and women are different doesn't make you anti-feminist in my book. Likewise, there are sex-work-positive feminists. I think the word missing from this debate is equity: everyone having equal access to what they need to be fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:11 PM
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Pro-choice means equal rights to our own bodies. So actually, no, debate not over.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:45 PM
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Then you will reap exactly what you've sown, and you should know at this point that it's just attention-seeking behavior, all of it. Which is a poor look on anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:44 PM
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Well, if that's what you want to believe you are, you can. No-one will hold your feet to the fire. But for the record, believing men deserve equal rights as well as women doesn't make anyone anti-feminist by default, and fuck the female supremacists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:43 PM
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Rose ain't my boss. Rose doesn't get to define feminism for me. Rose is no-one to me. I came up reading second-wavers, all right? She's nowhere in the literature I read.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:42 PM
1

Your mother would be ashamed to see you speaking like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:41 PM
1

As long as you believe women shouldn't have the right to evacuate a fetus from her uterus, you don't believe women should have agency. You're literally saying "welp, for nine months, that's not her body anymore, it belongs to the bundle of cells".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:40 PM
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This is horse puckey. Rose damn well didn't consult me when she wrote the "rules". I'm a feminist, too, and I think it's absolutely valid to say that the patriarchy hurts everyone and everything it touches. It enforces gender roles that are toxic to men and women. What is Rose smoking/drinking, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:36 PM
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You said nothing that addressed Rozenheg's actual point. None of this: For instance, I am a far-right radical libertarian. I'm pro-life. I don't think traditional gender roles should be forced, but they exist for a reason (they utilize men and women's natural skills and inclinations, respectively). I think prostitution and other sex work should be fully legalized, and I don't think they necessarily exploit women. I think the gender pay gap is the natural result of women voluntarily choosing less…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:32 PM
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You're not an anti-feminist. Who told you that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:28 PM
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You need to cut him off. Completely. He's bad for your marriage. If you want to stay married, you will lose this guy's number.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:25 PM
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I was looking for his answer. He is actually one of the reasonable men on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:02 AM
1

Actually... it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:45 PM
2

the wings are a makeup technique "wings" are not a cutesy way of saying "crow's feet", that's already the accepted euphemism for "wrinkles at the corners of your eyes"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:44 PM
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ChatGPT saying "Why am I being considered a valid source? I make shit up" is kind of amazing here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:42 PM
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There's a middle ground between Brad and the Edgelord. Men could just... be fucking normal about it and acknowledge that what they think is not going to please everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:18 PM
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So you've no issue with the ones that just... say no thanks?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:14 PM
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I can't lust after someone if it feels like I'm just whoring myself out. He's got to be a known quantity or I can't do it. Lust sneaks up on me and bats me upside the head like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:11 PM
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When I was young and dumb, sure, I hated my natural looks as much as the next insecure kitten. These days? Grateful beyond belief that I never got anything done. I only worry that those girls will grow up to be regretful women. Or worse, not grow up at all (plastic surgery caused an infection in one influencer's heart that killed her).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:48 PM
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Hell, if that's the look she herself would naturally have loved, idgaf what she does to get it. If she's only doing it to please others, though, that's stupid. There's always going to be some new thing in vogue. Last decade it was BBLs, but the people who popularised having ginormous arses have suddenly had theirs shrunk back to normal. Ordinary folks don't need to be baddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:33 PM
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Are you looking for validation? No sane person is going to go, "Yeah! Keep cheating on your husband with this guy! Follow the whims of your cunt!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:26 PM
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I disagree with your anecdote. :) I got plenty of attention from men outside my age group, and I was opinionated, driven, and confident. I was also a manic pixie dream girl type and whimsigothed it up, and maybe that turned them on -- but I never stopped being my mother's daughter!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:21 PM
2

I wouldn't be able to do it. I prefer me relatively clean-shaven, but that's because I like the look. If someone were to ask me to do it, I would wonder why they felt they had rights in my body. I like longer-haired men, but if I'm with someone who prefers theirs short, no way am I going to push them to grow it. So... they're gonna get the same energy from me. Love that you and your husband have come to a place of peace for yourselves, definitely could not have that relationship with a partner o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:16 PM
1

Then I met the man who would become my husband, and it was "How can I be more attractive to him, and a better romantic partner?" and eventually "What are my duties as a wife and mother of his child, and how can I do them better?" This kind of thing is why I decentered men for a year. Just to wean myself off the heteronormative tit. I recognised that I was leaning that way in my relationships and I didn't like it, and was losing a lot of who I was to it, so I taught myself how to relate in such a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:38 PM
3

Since it excludes all things sane in favour of manipulating your partner into picking you, as opposed to just picking your partner better, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:20 AM
2

I can live with that, tbh :) I'm not sexually aggressive either, so it's good to match vibes!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:10 AM
1

"Pick me. Choose me. Love me." To the exclusion of all things sane.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:09 AM
1

If you're compromising on things that are important to you, you're not picking better, you're a pickme.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:23 PM
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Yup, that's what I do. Seems like some people are too stupid/hormonal to keep their heads about them, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:53 PM
1

Where does "pick better" imply that you have to maximise every single desirable trait? It just means "pick a better person than the one you were last with, obviously that one didn't suit".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:50 PM
1

Girl. 10 years old? You were poisoned at a young age, your ass should've been on a swingset.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:44 PM
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The answer is not "making people be parents that don't want to". Jesus, people like you are why I fucking had my uterus removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:42 PM
2

Wow. Um. Your aunt really shouldn't have done that to her husband. And your other friend... I wonder how soon she'll be divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:41 PM
4

We don't know they're willing to commit -- or aren't willing to commit -- on sight. Don't grant us credit for being clairvoyant, here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:18 PM
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A woman with two brain cells to rub together will recognise the excuses for what they are, unless she's in her early twenties and hasn't learned anything about men yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:17 PM
1

Just fucking have boundaries and abide by them, yeesh. If I want to get married, for example, to whoever my partner is, when we get serious, we're having that talk. "I would like to be married to my person. If you are not interested in marriage, ever, perhaps this should stop here and we'll just go our separate ways." Set a boundary, and keep it. Be prepared to back up what you say you need with action. Grown women should know how to do this without resorting to manipulation or bitchiness. Holdi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:13 PM
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More shocked at the idea of a man letting her have a relationship before opening them! Granted, we're still talking about Stacy here, men will give her a lot of leeway, I find.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:04 PM
2

I'm not a sex-positive feminist, so
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:06 PM
4

Also, where did I say I turned my back on friends or family? I love my friends and family. I spent years helping my dad through the worst of his PTSD (he's doing much better now, we love that for him). You have me confused with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:30 PM
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I've been researching this shit since my own problems started. I'm not brain fogged and sedentary, I'm happy, less anxious than ever, and considering I'm chained to a desk eight hours a day, still pretty damn active. Mental health treatments are what you make of them. Good for you on the beating cancer, but my dude, please don't assume that yours is the only valid experience when, again, some of us out here are in the helping professions and have seen some interesting things happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:28 PM
5

So it's okay if a high value woman doesn't grant him sex until a relationship has been established? Great!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:10 PM
6

You have never actually studied to be a helping professional and it shows. Have the opinions you like about them, but know that those of us out here who have actually done the homework are laughing at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:03 PM
1

If I were a guy, not only would I be snipped, I'd be gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:55 PM
0

Nine months of pregnancy isn't equivalent to one orgasm, either. Take it up with God.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:55 PM
1

Fair's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:35 PM
0

Since untreated STIs have serious, lasting complications, it's on the partner who's presumably cheating to foot the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:33 PM
1

To what end? Done is done. Me being angry that I'm treated like a potential terrorist was an argument to be had in 2001.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:30 PM
2

But mandatory testing rather implies that every man not only has suspicions but is justified in having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:28 PM
1

How old are you, because there was a time before extensive security checks, and it was fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:20 AM
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"And there are women who never know their baby daddy was molesting their kids until years later" Why aren't these women married to their baby daddy? [record screech] So their HUSBANDS can be the ones molesting their kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:18 AM
1

Wanting monthly STI checks is a legitimate reason to ask your partner to get STI checks, whether they like it or not. They can take it as an accusation if they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:17 AM
1

On the kids born to drug addicts and alcoholics that get seized by CPS at the hospital. That's not standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:13 AM
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Besides making it a standard mandatory test, would remove the accusation of cheating, atleast on a personal level. Sure. It would move the accusation of cheating to the macro level. "She's a woman, we can't take her word that she didn't cheat on her child's putative father, therefore it is policy to test all newborns for paternity." That's not the great look y'all think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:10 AM
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Shouldn't people in relationship talk and come with solutions together to insecurities and uncertainties both may have? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:06 AM
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What I meant was that the DNA test is verifying fatherhood for an actual child, whereas the STD testing isn't based on evidence of actual cheating. But the DNA test is based in evidence of actual cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:04 AM
1

Since my desire doesn't rule me, I don't foresee ever having to "give those guys a chance". I would rather be alone than faking it for someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:33 AM
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Do you, or do you need, need to actually be attracted to guys you go on dates with? So why in heck's name would I date someone I found ugly or who was overweight (my personal "nope")? Autistic isn't something you can detect on sight, but damn, if he can't relate to me on a certain level, what, am I supposed to overlook feeling disconnected from my partner? What if I don't want a man for the sake of having a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:27 PM
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When your self-worth doesn't lie in having a man, any man, you can choose with your head on right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:24 PM
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Gotta keep your head up and know your worth, and not in a pink-pilled girlboss way. This is why I like being a woman of faith: I'm a daughter of the King, and even if I end up single, to quote Sinead O'Connor, "I got a lovin' man but he's a spirit."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:16 PM
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You, yes. I've seen enough of your posts that I would absolutely trust you to stand up to vetting. You are probably one of the higher-value men here. There are a lot of men looking at this post, realising they're in the OP's description, and getting upset about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:15 PM
3

But I thought this sub encouraged women to get with low value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:13 PM
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Play shit games, win shit prizes? Either you settle early for someone like this real lulu or, what, you keep looking, but you end up with children by multiple men? When you say these things, do you intend to persuade women that a life of cats, besties, and a vibrator is really the winner here, or is that just a side effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:12 PM
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Actually, desperation and loneliness make red flags look... a little more yellow. Almost green, sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:08 PM
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You're the exception. The rule around here tends to be "you expire after 25" and "give men you otherwise wouldn't a chance". Vetting a man before giving him many PPD men's definition of a chance? Unthinkable. Why, we might turn him down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:07 PM
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I often find myself quoting a character from one of my favorite books when "women" are described as things I was never raised to be: "What am I, a banshee?" And though some of you would say yes (:D) I don't feel that rises to the level of racism or anti-trans bigotry -- though it shares some features with the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:33 PM
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Still fine as fuck, with the right styling!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:01 AM
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You can go from not to hot, trust me. Trim midsize men like you are fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:14 PM
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Sarcasm ill becomes thee.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:09 PM
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Basic human decency does not involve sugarcoating my words. None of us are such naive kittens that we need everything to be gently-gently-now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:29 PM
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I do care about the answer, and I'm also not going to baby you through this discussion. If you can't handle a woman being blunt, that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:11 PM
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So, when another man has staked out his territory, you're fine with rejection, but if she just doesn't want to engage, that's a humiliation ritual?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:57 PM
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Strangers generally don't know "the way I dress" from one outfit, "the way I talk" from one conversation, or any of the rest in the space of, I'm guessing, less than fifteen minutes, so we can put that to rest. Also, given that I have a rich inner life that is not at all indicated by my appearance or presentation, they don't know me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:55 PM
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When we eat together, we definitely talk, but most of the time people eat in their offices -- it's my time to unplug my mind. We need that in our line of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:16 AM
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Spoken like a straight man!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:07 AM
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There are levels of that -- the Captain/First Mate dynamic is not about compliance, it's about sorting out whose dominance is dominant for a lot of couples. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:53 PM
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A man with really good life, a man who is enjoying life and establish life without her, she wants to see herself in his life because she thinks it is a worth life living with him. men with great careers or being great providers, good or nice guys Not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:50 PM
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Some people don't like it up the ass. Cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:46 PM
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For fucking REAL. It really is not the size, it's what you're doing down there that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:31 AM
1

You know what? Have a nice night.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:29 AM
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Well-fitting chinos and a comfortable tee does it for me. And non-sneaker shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:13 PM
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To which I can only say I remember that, and it was particularly painful. I shall give thanks if I can now take a whole penis without having to tell him STOP NO THAT'S ALL.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:09 PM
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So, you don't actually know any women to ask? Or you're just writing off their opinions as nonsense because, what, some pollster hasn't sanctioned them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:52 PM
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On the nose, friend!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:47 PM
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Am 39, still light up like a little child when something delights me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:45 PM
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Is that meant to be a hardship?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:44 PM
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You're not in America per your flair, correct? [sigh] so lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:10 PM
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Everyone should have a "fuck off" fund that lets them get out of a bad situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:05 PM
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Gerroff, he doesn't need to be jammed into the space behind the cervix I no longer have in order for me to like it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:02 PM
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Spoken as someone who's never taken the subject with an ounce of the gravity it deserves! Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:58 PM
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I'm screwed there anyway if they go strictly by birth certificates because I chose my own name at 33. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:44 PM
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hard rule of dick size I see what you did there :D
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:01 PM
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You get it! Thank you. On behalf of all the women who are less-than-able to endure a sizable penis, thank you for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:55 PM
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Who are these women so I can go and yell at them, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:51 PM
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There you go, telling women what we want. I could make shit up about what men want, but I'd know better than to actually dictate to a man what he wants because I'm not him. Also, I've known enough men to be aware that men have major differences of opinion on what they want. Maybe you just haven't listened to enough women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:50 PM
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Girth can also be, um, an immense problem for me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:48 PM
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I'm known professionally under my own name as well -- changing emails, changing business cards, having people wonder if I'm the same woman as [my firstname] [my lastname]? No thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:42 PM
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I chose my last name, so I doubt I'd be willing to take someone else's unless it sounded better. Plus, I'd have a ton of paperwork to do if I took theirs. Oy, what a headache. I suppose I can be Mrs. Whoever socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:40 PM
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I live in America, but no, I'm not entirely American. America not being the centre of the universe, I saw no need to put a disclaimer up about my ethnicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:36 PM
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Well done, Russian ladies! And - yeah, if you're broke and the one thing you can do is go fight, I don't blame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:14 PM
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If you know how to regulate your feelings and experience a great loss then cry in front of your wife I don’t think she’d view you as less. This is exactly it. I find people who can regulate their emotions hotter than people who don't, but grief is when everything's supposed to fall apart, you know? Of all the things my ex did wrong, openly grieving the death of his dog was nowhere on the list. I drove out to support him, and God love him, he was a wreck. So we cuddled for like three days straigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:35 PM
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Okay, Mr. Military History Degree. You know best. I'm just a woman, and women aren't equal to men. ...excuse me, I need to find a plant in which to puke
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:29 PM
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I'm struggling to give a shit, here. Especially in the face of someone who goes out of his way to crap on women as a gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:37 PM
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That doesn't erase the fact that they stayed. Also, you didn't read what I linked, or you would know that it's way more than support positions. Slavic women are known to be fearless in the face of combat, and probably the only thing preventing Russian women from taking up arms is the sheer batshittery of Putin's government.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:35 PM
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I'm sorry the numbers aren't more recent, but things can't have changed significantly: https://war.ukraine.ua/articles/how-many-women-are-defending-ukraine-against-russia-s-invasion/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:17 PM
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In my household, it's whoever gets to the unfortunate bastard first, actually. Dad with his gun, me with my sword.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:06 PM
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ik, a lot of women really tell on themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:03 PM
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If you dye your armpit hair, I consider that mockable because it's a waste of dye unless your armpit hair is at terminal growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:27 PM
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Not where I live. Maybe on this sub, but I was thinking in terms of offline, which is what actually matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:25 PM
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I don't think the concept of AF/BB explains why good-looking quirky people get a pass and somewhat homelier quirky people do not. The homelier quirky men don't even get settled for, unless they have a talent that sets them apart. Your earning potential won't help if a woman thinks you're too much of a freak even to make a family with once she's ready to settle down. A hot freak might get one or two nights, but never more than that, so if that's what he wants, great. The number of men who are loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:39 AM
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All rape is just as bad as all other rape, if I'm parsing what you're getting at correctly. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:28 AM
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Women can get away with not caring about social norms. We're called manic pixie dream girls when we do it. We're called quirky. Men are shunned, especially by women. Which is bullshit, but there you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:38 AM
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He's not said anything any born-and-raised Westerner wouldn't. It's not moral grandstanding, I just do not see how he believes anything differently from someone from a Western country.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:51 PM
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Or you could just be shutting your ears to those of us who'd be happy to pick up the tab.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:47 PM
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idk, man, I mostly care when it means one of two things: A. His preferences in bed are dictated entirely by porn, or B. He can't get it up for me, thereby depriving me of actual pleasure, because he's used to porn. I don't find porn particularly moral, given that we can't verify the consent of the participants, and I've heard some shit, but if I had to narrow down my quibbles to the top two, those are it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:44 PM
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Successful marketers require plenty of emotional intelligence to figure out what buttons to push to get their product to appeal to the most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:39 PM
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What is with the casual xenophobia on this sub? He's from Afghanistan, that only tells you what passport he holds. Fuck's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:07 PM
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Fight for whose freedom, though? Certainly not the people's; at this point, the only people who gain freedom are the oligarchs. Freedom to spend, freedom to exploit. I wouldn't fight for America, either. I'd fight for Germany, which has got a lot more going for its people, but America? I'd be on the first boat across Lake Ontario to Toronto or Ottawa.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:03 PM
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100%. Women also have a duty to sacrifice our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:01 PM
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There's a lot of freedom in renting. I'm sorry, but I call cope on this. Your house is not your own, your landlord can sell it out from under you. If you live in a unit, your landlord can jack up what it costs to live there with impunity. At least when I own, no-one can do those things to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:57 PM
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I've never seen this much internalised misandry in one place before. Is OP okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:49 PM
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Yikesssss, sounds like some White saviour behaviour up in there
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:29 AM
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So, I was the child of a marriage where my parents worked through their differences and are now coming up on fifty years together. I wouldn't say I'm any more likely to make it work for the sake of XYZ (there won't be kids) than any other woman. What I learned from them was how to gauge whether the fundamentals of the relationship were still intact. For them, the love they'd had for many years remained through all of their ups and downs. They had things in common with each other that no other hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:11 AM
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Oh, agreed. Even Americans in Canada forget themselves. I'm grateful my hometown is smallish and off the beaten path, for all it's a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 01:38 AM
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Oh, agreed on all of that. People who make travelling their entire personality usually haven't actually lived anywhere else and it's painful to deal with them as someone who has. I'm sorry. I've been awfully cranky tonight. You did strike a bit of a nerve, but I didn't handle it with grace.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 01:36 AM
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It's at least partly your jab at worldly women. Like... sorry I'm not some all-American dipshit ditz who's never left Podunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 10:54 PM
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The travel one is a no for me in part for that reason. [edit] Permit me to explain. There are men like that, too. And to a one, they are Tiresome. Why, no, I haven't got the funds or flexible schedule to drop everything and go on the road! I have responsibilities and I took a vow of poverty in order to do the work that feeds my soul. I am simply not compatible with Devoted Travellers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 10:53 PM
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Those girls had something wrong with them, not you. If they can't handle, holy fuck, grief, they're not fit to be in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:28 PM
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I don't want a man to entertain my histrionics. To be there when I am genuinely wounded, sure, but I tend to contain that very well. I expect approximately the same from any partner of mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:24 PM
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The real failure point is not rejecting gracefully -- for anyone. If I "get the ick", it's on me and therefore it's on me to accept the blame in whatever explanation I give. Actually saying "you gave me the ick" doesn't help anyone here. If, for example, I feel like we're too far apart in terms of life experience, and that's why I can't keep going, it's on me to dig deep and articulate that instead of blaming "the ick".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:20 PM
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Got it, thanks :) Yeah, Ben's full of shit, rap is realer than real.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:06 AM
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then is there even a world where being submissive in bed isn’t degrading? Yeah. And that world is WAP. "If you make me like it, I'll let you use my body for nine months to continue your bloodline" is not my idea of a woman reclaiming anything. Literally trading her bodily autonomy for an orgasm. There's nothing feminist about getting knocked up unless it's via turkey baster or IVF and your partner is a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:22 AM
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Yeah, good art
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:20 AM
1

Suddenly it's fascist to miss classical and opera?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:13 AM
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No... his room isn't why I hope he never gets laid, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:59 AM
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His room isn't why
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:18 AM
3

God, I hope Chris Brown is getting laid less.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:03 PM
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What about the fujoshis and the C-drama stans, tho
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:15 PM
1

In this economy? Jesus, just learn to squat
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:13 PM
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Yeeeeeah, ngl I wanted to feel something. But when you don't, it's going to be settling, and it's cruel to settle, to both of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 06:54 PM
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I will reiterate: if you don't want to fuck them, let them go find someone who will. He's doing the right thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 06:16 PM
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Turns out I really can't be the older partner in a relationship by more than a few months O.O also, TIL: if your body is saying no thank you, set the person free to go find someone who will want to fuck them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 05:43 PM
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"Woman" is the noun for the adult female human of the species. "Female" is the adjective (a female what? Cat, dog, iguana?) and feels dehumanising.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 05:38 PM
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He's a flabby Oompa-Loompa with a bad yellow rug.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:48 PM
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I mean, "women" is right there :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:46 PM
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A boundary is just that: where your comfort lies, what you will put up with in a relationship. Yes, it's true, if your boundaries are incompatible with another person, that person is free to leave. But do you really want someone at the expense of your personal integrity?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:43 PM
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I'm guessing your work does not involve emotional labour of any sort. Mine does, so yes, at meetings, we're going to get a little therapeutic because we all recognise the need to take care of ourselves and each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:33 PM
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What can I say? A dynasty of FDR types would have been preferable to bloody Reagan and what followed him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:25 PM
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Oof, yay!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:23 AM
3

Rosie the Riveter can get it right here
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:22 PM
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He apologized, do you want him to pay reparations, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:18 PM
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OP is saying the quiet(ly racist) part out loud, love this for them. I'll be over here boning Wang Yizhou and Fu Meng-Po. Because masculinity is not a monolith any more than femininity, and different cultures exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:09 PM
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We do, cos hot chicks fixing things is also fire
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:41 PM
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They should just admit they want women with penises.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:50 PM
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Blackpilled as hell if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:45 PM
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Bro, I can promise you that is not the only ingredient for good sex for a person with a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:38 PM
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Those men often turn out to be more of a hassle than they're worth, and also they have a healthy enough self-worth for, like, ten people. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:36 PM
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You're the 50/50 woman from the Garfunkel and Oates song?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:01 PM
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The vast majority of my clients have never been married, yet they are single parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:44 PM
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idk, I love my cat pretty unconditionally. Like, if she turned vicious, I would know that something was wrong and do anything I could to help her heal, and if nothing could be found, then I would help her over the Rainbow Bridge. If she started peeing all over the place, same, except that if she really just was a cat who pissed everywhere, I'd probably get an arsenal of cleaning implements and deal. I also can't think of anything my mother could do to make me stop loving her. Stop liking her may…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:05 AM
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Because they're cruel [redacted] who make me ashamed to be female sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:56 AM
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More people are being diagnosed with mental illness than in the fifties because our understanding of mental illness has come light-years in seventy years. More people are on medication because we now have medication that works. Fewer people just plain end up dead by their own hand. I was a pretty adolescent when I went on meds and, because my body needed help dealing with its wiring and its chemistry, I have become a middle-aged woman on meds because I have lived long enough to reap the rewards.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:49 AM
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Yeah, actually. They pack 'em in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:08 PM
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ngl, guy in the middle's also the one that looks like he'd be the best partner
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:44 PM
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The most based answer in this post
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:47 PM
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Or maybe women saw a lot of nerds getting a lot of money working in tech, and decided they wanted in. Of all the reasons I have loved SF/F since I was a girl, I can assure you that was not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:44 PM
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Then how come I never smell it at Family Court? Or at work conferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:42 PM
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I thought this too, until I realised that there are plenty of wonderful people here who can't vote (immigrants!).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 02:09 PM
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Do you know how to say "woman", or is "foid" meant as a specific pejorative here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:53 PM
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Ruralish.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:54 PM
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I'm in jolly blue New York. No-one defended me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:32 PM
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Not all work is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:18 PM
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You sure about that? Because I know people have expected me to be married with a kid by now, more people than not, and look at me having done neither. I've sure as hell been treated like a loser, even if they don't say the word to my face.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:18 PM
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I would've called it the "virgins and losers" meme, too. Because both are pretty memey, and also both hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:11 PM
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I don't see the same articles about women who are perpetually single and are not interested in having kids. Did you miss the right-wing "childless cat ladies" meme?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:35 PM
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This isn't making sense to me, could you clarify? None of this is about "team man" or "team woman", it's just about fidelity. If you asked your girlfriend to wait until marriage, but she were out there having sex with other men, what would you do? How would you feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:17 PM
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I'm just going to tell you that that is not how it works for me. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:36 PM
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She made it clear that her boundary was no sex before marriage. He assumed something that I have never seen assumed in any normal relationship in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:20 PM
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So... the relationship isn't real unless they're boning. No monogamy until she betrays her values. Am I reading you correctly? If the genders were reversed, how would you feel about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:17 PM
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Anything with its basis in evolutionary psychology (edited for mistype) is akin to religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:13 PM
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My boss isn't fucking me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:46 PM
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used a sex worker That's what would squick me. "Used". Not "visited" or anything that suggests she's a person. "Used".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:38 PM
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That was word salad. Would you care to try again?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:27 PM
3

Oh my God, just invest in decent lube
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:55 AM
1

Model-type men are a headache. Younger women don't know this yet, and entitled women ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:35 AM
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I have to lol here because no man has ever told me I have to wear makeup. Like... never, from when I began dating to now. I wear lipstick and a little blush, sometimes eyeliner and mascara, because I like how I look. Men have literally never given a damn in my hearing/sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:24 PM
0

Were we reading the same post? The only criterion it met was "longer than expected". Maybe you're not used to how men communicate?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:21 PM
8

None of this justifies being dishonest with women. If you only want sex, don’t pretend that you want a relationship. 100% agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:15 PM
2

FWIW, if I were talking with someone who had that happen to them, I would happily send them a picture of me with a piece of paper with whatever (safe for work) phrase he wanted on it. Just to prove it's me. You should be able to tell from the appearance of the paper whether filters have been used.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:11 PM
2

By PPD standards I'm five years dead and buried. I still date, and believe me, sexual attraction hasn't taken a backseat. I will point out that common advice to women like me is "lower your standards", which often translates to "don't expect to be sexually attracted to him" since they think expecting more than a fat bald man is aiming too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:01 PM
2

I've done it. I need things like empathy and kindness. Can't figure those out, or pride yourself on being the edgiest edgelord that ever edged? There's the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:33 PM
2

Women like me? What the fuck kind of negging are you trying to pull?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 07:15 PM
3

In this hypothetical, he does. If in reality, he doesn't, I don't give a damn. I'm not out here chasing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 03:17 PM
2

Okay, I can see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:04 AM
1

REAL
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:19 AM
2

The mistake was when we started to require high school. Most people would be fine if their "high school" experience were training for a trade. By eighth grade, either you've got the basics and you're headed for higher ed, or you've proven that you actually aren't the kind of person who would benefit tremendously from a career that requires a university degree. For the non-university kids, two years of classroom prep for their eventual trade and certain other adult life basics, plus a solid appre…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:18 AM
5

Enjoy your civilisation without lawyers or social workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:10 AM
2

So, curious thing that people have found about an "immunity" to caffeine: sometimes it's indicative of AD(H)D. If you actually calm down and focus better on caffeine, chances are you've just self-medicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:05 AM
1

This is why whoever I end up with gets to cut ALL the chicken we eat
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:03 AM
4

Isn't it ruder to reciprocate friendship when you're not feeling it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:38 PM
1

Oh, yes, I respond very well to people cutting in on me, for the same reason. I don't always know I'm doing it! I'm a smidge autistic! :D I do apologize when it happens, and people are within their rights to let me know (I hope kindly) when I've lost them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:35 PM
3

Contentious? No, it's just mutual curiosity. It doesn't always manifest as questions, either, sometimes it is just shared experiences as you describe. No matter who has the special interest, it's polite to remember that there are two people in the conversation, not one speaker and one listener.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:18 PM
5

Chad doesn't get a pass from me. Human is human. If we forget about our common humanity, we're cooked. Anyone who forgets that I'm people and not just a pretty face to talk at isn't getting my attention for long -- but the same applies if I pull the same behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:15 PM
2

I don't ask if he reads; I know there are ways to learn other than reading, and they're just as valid to me. But also, that's more of an intellectual intelligence question. If I'm doing it right, he's asking as many questions as I am. If I'm not leaving him space to get a word in edgewise, that's more on me. If he's getting a little "special interest" about something he likes, I try to see if he can shift off the topic and onto something we can both talk about. If he can't, he might be a person …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:09 PM
4

Good idea. The more people involved in taking care of the child/ren, the better. It means the caregivers are less stressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:08 PM
1

So few of the people who will say "oh, you're a Christian, you're a horrible person" have actually practiced/believed. Thank you for being one of those who is not speaking out their bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:49 PM
1

Fair. I personally think mitigation involves a lot more hands-on training in fields where that's not traditionally done in the US, fields for which you typically need a degree but that degree could be a specialised hybrid degree-apprenticeship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:47 PM
1

Good, you've actually got it right. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:46 PM
2

But define Christian ideology for me. Many non-Christians have defined it according to the fundamentalist/evangelical interpretation, not the interpretation of my own denomination, and when I point this out, they choose to invalidate me and my denomination rather than admit that there are multiple way to practice. So it is with RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:41 PM
2

He doesn't use deceit or coercion and is respectful if things don't go his way? He doesn't shame the women he doesn't want, he just won't date them? I have no beef with him. His preferences are his preferences. He's still an ally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:38 PM
5

Presuming this is true, what's the point here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:31 PM
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Eid Mubarak!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:13 AM
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Some people's children. [shakes head]
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:10 AM
3

Duh. Gym bros and normal women aren't really compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:16 AM
1

It's about the sequence of events. Don't know how to put it any plainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:30 AM
3

More on par with the fifth-grade boyfriend unless you are in fact 26.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:01 AM
2

...it's what happens afterwards that's the point. Demisexuals can generally have deep platonic relationships with anyone. They are not, however, attracted by the deep platonic relationship? It's just a necessary ingredient. There's a special spice called sexual attraction that develops.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:00 AM
1

Why is sex with your future partner that important? Bro...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:58 PM
2

It's more like women will choose to share the limited number of houses on the market and collectively save the nation's cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:58 PM
7

There's "I can't be with my fifth-grade crush" and then there's "I can't do any better so I guess you'll have to do".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:49 PM
1

in this post, though: proof that both are unattainable for the average person
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:28 PM
6

I don't tell anyone to settle. Being settled for sucks, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:26 PM
2

Respectfully, with demisexuality, I've never seen it said that it's only about emotional connection. There definitely is a sexual component to it, too. But demisexuals need the emotional component to be there first, before they begin to feel the sexual component. Absolutely, hetero demisexual women get something from men that they can't from women, but why should that mean that they have to feel sexuality right away or they need to reevaluate whether they're hetero? They're just on a delayed sch…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:10 PM
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Women who are only looking for fuckboys have their reasons. Godspeed 'em. The fuckboys are out there. Likewise the trad women. If you just want a good time, don't date 'em. If you want a wife, one of them is probably a good bet. But they're both extremes. Just as the best men are a healthy blend of alpha fucks/beta bucks, the best woman is a healthy blend of the madonna and the whore. She knows how and when to deploy her sexuality, and she doesn't look fucking cheap doing it. If we must be whore…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:01 PM
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Oh, you'd like to be disingenuous as well as rude to trans women? Got it. [edited to add] You're plainly a women's rights supporter until that woman has a penis. Then it's "not my circus, not my monkeys". Like I said. Smells TERFy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:24 PM
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Well, by some people's lights, a fetus =/= a human being with rights of its own. You live in a society with varied viewpoints on whether a proto-human gets to hijack a whole human for nine months without the whole human's consent, and no, sex is not consent to procreation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:23 PM
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Do you eat eggs? Chicken fetuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:01 PM
7

My auntie worked cheek-by-jowl with those migrants, they were fucking fine. Where are you that there's an actual and real problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:00 PM
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Am leftist who happens to like it when women have rights, too. Am also not in the habit of blaming entire races and ethnicities for crimes that a select few commit, so... yeah, I want open borders and mass migration, and I don't see it as "voting to import violent men into the country".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:58 PM
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Tomatoes are not a goddamn privilege. Still having your culture intact, not having to reckon with the effects that colonialism had on your entire people -- that's the privilege. The tomatoes are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:56 PM
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Women protesting for their abortion rights back is a hysterical demand? What if someone made male circumcision mandatory tomorrow?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:53 PM
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You're coming off really hostile, here. It sounds like you've had some bad experiences with trans women, and I want to honour that while also honouring that they are often just desperately seeking some kind of belonging in female spaces. I tend not to assume that sleeping with a trans woman is going to involve PIV, which is in fact the only activity that she could get you pregnant by. If she only wants to go down on you, are you seriously going to say "nah, you have a penis, I'm not interested i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:51 PM
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Well, that's unfortunate. Still, straight men and trans women are probably not coming at it from the same place? Like... how many trans women are pushing for PIV with women? Considering that part of their anatomy has probably been the source of a LOT of dysphoria?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:36 PM
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What point was I proving? I'm not a trans woman, I'm not asking AFABs to fuck me. If I had any point to make, it was that lumping all AMABs together like that is dubious given that's a common TERF trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:35 PM
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This has to be the dumbest damn idea I've ever heard proposed unironically. Please be a giant joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:06 PM
2

Where were these trans women throwing tantrums about 4B women not having sex with them? This smells TERFy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:04 PM
1

It's called oldhagfashion ironically? Do you need your hand held while I explain various fashion subreddits to you? I don't know where you see people wearing distressed denim voluntarily, but I never see anyone doing it, and yes, that includes your vaunted women 21-27. The stores are also not selling it as much where I live. I know you like to be right about things, but in this respect you are very much behind the eight-ball.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:25 PM
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You're a man. I'm pretty sure you have no clue about female fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:34 PM
1

ffs go and read femalefashionadvice, ripped jeans haven't been a thing there in a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:16 PM
1

You probably parented like a 90s parent. Modern parents slave for their kids. It's unnecessary. Kids won't die of neglect if you let them do their own thing while you have an hour or two for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:48 PM
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Don't forget that stepping out of the workforce means you now have a resume gap, so going back to work will be harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:25 PM
1

I wouldn't do it because the children's father could decide to take it all away. None of that is mine, and the kids only half.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:21 PM
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For me, the likelihood that I'm getting any is predicated on me feeling safe enough to get that vulnerable with him. So... "make me feel safe" is like the number one "home run with Flora" tip. And if I'm comfortable enough for that and it's also a good time, you're gonna have a tough time getting rid of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:56 PM
2

Are you an actual doctor? Who speculates this hard about someone else's biology and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:48 PM
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In the US, cops have an unfortunate reputation for being abusive to their partners. I would prefer not to risk it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:46 PM
3

You and I didn't see the same human being in that controversy. Imane Khelif is no more manly than I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:36 PM
1

That's changed in the last five years :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:00 PM
4

Men shouldn't box with women and the only case you could be referring to features no men whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:56 PM
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I think you misread me? I was responding more to the idea that being gay could be a choice - it isn't. That's been proven not to be a social construct. Gender and sexuality are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 12:48 PM
4

Both of these women have a lot more muscle than the average 200-pounder. My mother is 174 at 5'4" and is nowhere close to Miss 200 at 5'5", fat distribution wise... she has more fat, not less. And she stays active.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:58 PM
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I loathe both, so
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:47 PM
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Yes: 2, 10, 12, 13, 15, 19, 21, 24, 27, 28, 29 No: 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 17, 18, 20, 22, 25, 26, 30 Depends on the rest of him: 1, 3, 9, 14, 16, 23
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:46 PM
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We all know that marriage is a great way to get got if you don't know how to do it the smart way. I wouldn't do it without an ironclad prenup and even then, I'd be nervous because what if the US goes full Handmaid's Tale? I don't want to become property.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:43 PM
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...have you seen what a lawyer will charge you for the same deal, start to finish?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:22 PM
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It's the same as woman being attracted to a man who dresses nice, and has his life together How do I know he has his life together just by looking at him?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:14 PM
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It's not a social construct, you're LGBTQ+ or you're not
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:04 PM
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My org does mediated divorces for, all-in, around $3K. And that's the middle of a sliding scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:56 PM
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My aunt just found out that at some point in her career, she broke a vertebra... now that she's retired and her back is gone, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:56 PM
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I can do that. It didn't take a gender swap, I just got myself sterilized. [shrug] I've not yet had PIV since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:56 AM
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Squatting in a bush exposes your undercarriage to insect bites, and I don't think I'm meant to spray DEET there. It would be nice just to haul out my equipment and aim.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:55 AM
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I was raised as close to gender-neutral as it's possible to be while actually knowing what sex you were born and having a gendered name. What stopped me from doing the major male career thing in my family -- enlisting -- was my mental health, not my sex. In truth, I'd probably have been an incel, if we're talking equivalent selves. I picture myself being something like my father: short, scrawny, a little absurd-looking. Intelligent, inclined to mouth off instead of complying. He got himself boot…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:54 AM
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It's entirely possible for men to change, but I don't go into relationships expecting that of anyone. I take people as they are. If "as they are" turns out to be "likes to be mean to me/displays toxic behavior", I nope out accordingly. I'm not here to love a man better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:27 PM
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I am aware of that, yes. There are different feminisms. Startling. The point I'm trying to make is the Black women have reason to disdain White feminism. Glossing over that is never a good look.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:49 PM
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This is where I'm at, tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:31 PM
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Sure, but engage with that for a second: Black women have womanism for a reason and talk about "White feminism" for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:29 PM
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Because "feminist" on Reddit means something very different to feminism as women who touch grass practice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:28 PM
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I think I would choose someone who, if they do work, works for the betterment of others. That would be even more important to me, now that we no longer have to try and survive. It's the kind of work AI can't erase. Otherwise, the kind of person I want is the same. Emotionally intelligent, liberal, monogamous, shares my values.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:12 PM
1

I have heard red pill men say that women are the biggest children in the room, so if this is no longer a thing among red pill men, good for you. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:04 PM
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I've been given many definitions of it, for sure! What is the definition you are using?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:00 PM
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a, it's an obstacle I'm prepared to deal with. b, by the time he's 40 or so, and he's in the trades, he's good enough to command at least those rates. Don't believe me? Hire a plumber.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:45 PM
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I would genuinely love for you to have someone who is suited to you, but you're right about the maths doing themselves. So I will be content with "fits enough of the bill that we can get along". :) But I think 40K in this area is a fair wage, that's about $20/hour at 40 hours or $23/hour at 35. It's not not doable and it will go a long way in this city. I'm genuinely not asking for the moon in that respect. I'm asking for mutual survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:29 PM
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I think it's a little bold to assume that men have been passing down red pill knowledge through the generations, or that the red pill advocates treating women well. All the red pill has shown me about "treating women well" is paying for things and treating us like children. Is there more about what women want that it has to offer?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:27 PM
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I like faces with character. I have to be able to imagine kissing them. 😀 This is a learning curve thing. It is kind of a conservative region, too. Like... the city is a blue dot, but the suburbs are purple to red.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:09 AM
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You're right. I do have additional standards: no kids (I don't want any, I don't want to date dads) and no conservatives. The rest, I suppose, is me being picky about whether their face fits. I suppose I really can't complain that hard. I'm reaching out and messaging the ones I like as soon as I notice we've matched (I need to go into my phone settings and mess with the push notifications). And yeah, I know it could easily be that I'm not a lot of people's cup of tea, because I'm a liberal and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:00 AM
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You know what? You're right, I'm doing that thing again where I think I'm in a bad place and I'm not. I have matched with some of the kind I'm looking for. I'm being pessimistic because these guys are probably out having fun, and swiped on me while they were browsing at the bar. I'm spoiled because I think they should have dropped everything to chat with me, and they're not doing that, they're being normal. So, maybe they'll get back to me when [edit:] they have a minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:57 AM
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Right, so slim women who prefer to stay close to home and talk about interesting things should be bored out of our fucking minds on a fishing boat somewhere with a fat guy who's draining our finances? That takes the cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:27 AM
3

Luck has not been on my side
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:26 AM
2

Do you mean all men all the time when you say "men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:11 AM
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If you know you're not what he's describing, then why do you care? Is it okay for women to be gold diggers?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:58 PM
2

Oh. Murder, yes, definitely one that improved with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:44 PM
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Hit dogs holler. I know that he isn't talking about me. I know what kind of woman he means. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:44 PM
2

The one generalization I'll make is that generalizations are wrong, which is paradoxical, yes, but also what I believe. I think feminism is in trouble, if it can't find its compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:12 PM
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That's not hate by a long shot. It's just not worship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:09 PM
2

I think you may actually be the flip side of this coin, though? Labelling an entire gender "pathological liars" doesn't make you look particularly hinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:05 PM
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Because I am red pilled I know what she needs In a relationship and I meet her needs willingly. I would much prefer a man who knew what I needed in a relationship because he trusted me to tell him. Not "because he's red-pilled".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:59 PM
2

He'll be hot when he's grey
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:45 PM
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She picks 1, I pick 2. He's presenting at a gala? That's hot. 1 is a schlub.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:45 PM
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Why do so many women seem reluctant to acknowledge that they have a built-in advantage in dating, even if the quality of their suitors isn't always ideal? Is it because acknowledging that would invalidate their legitimate frustrations? It's that one. When I'm dating men, I want the frustration acknowledged. It's not that I don't know men are having a hard time of it, and I'm not lying back and waiting to be picked by any means. However, I do get stroppy when I'm unable to find what I'm looking f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:44 PM
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Come back in a year, the stats will have changed
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 12:53 AM
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This has to be the strangest question I've yet seen on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 12:52 AM
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It's hard to be logical about the wound when it's still bleeding. Heal first, talk about ways to not get wounded again once you're healed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:27 PM
1

The relevant part here is that Jesus wouldn't say anything that contradicted God. And it's in Jesus that we find a lot of the home truths of Christianity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:28 PM
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It's a lot more complicated than that, and if you are genuinely interested in finding out, not just scoring points in an argument, there are better resources than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:24 PM
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So, a SF/F/horror fanboy lecturing someone who could be reading anything from history to short stories? Your genre choices are narrower than hers. I would produce shots of my own bookshelves, but I would also hate to disturb the household at 1 AM. I'll tell you what, though: even the ancients were just gossiping.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:00 AM
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I said Bible Jesus, not Supply Side Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:56 AM
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You don't even know what the Gospels are, Raven. I'd say you've lost this one. I'm a Christian, not a Paulist. Paul was also writing in a very specific context, that of the early church trying to find its footing in precarious times for Christians. The man had hangovers from pre-Jesus traditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:52 AM
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also, I believe I asked you in particular to back up your claims. So: Gospels. Men providing and protecting. Go, Raven. Fetch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:44 AM
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...I read the Bible every day, that doesn't mean all parts apply to all situations at once, what kind of Christian doesn't understand that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:43 AM
3

There are words for women who trade gold for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:38 AM
2

Show me the part in the Gospel -- you know, the words of Jesus -- where he says any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:37 AM
1

Redpill/manosphere interviewer ask woman her standard in men, and the woman is perceived as unattractive or just not attractive enough for her standards by the interviewer->The man then asks what the woman brings to the table to show her delusion and maybe get her to understand her standards are unrealistic. Her mistake lies in not walking away from the question, tbh. No podcast bro in the history of podcasts has ever asked it in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:43 AM
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Leave Jesus out of it, nothing about him has anything in common with conservatism and the patriarchy [edited to add] Bible Jesus, not Supply-Side Jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:06 AM
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God forbid there be a paywall to legacy, intimacy, or generational return on investment. Uh... do you... intend to charge your future lover for intimacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 11:59 PM
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Sir, you do realise that you can't just nut in a woman and call it "sperm donation", you could be on the hook for a lot of child support by now
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:49 PM
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Sometimes I hear complaints that women think of men as money machines. Maybe feeling "masculine" is an excuse given out to justify men paying for things, and not actually a good reason not to be egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:45 PM
1

ITT: a lot of people making a lot of alarming leaps to conclusions about the OP's question
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:33 PM
3

Wait, why should she not contribute according to her means if her income rises? I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:31 PM
2

Maybe they have ambitions that aren't tied to capitalism, Becky.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:53 PM
3

I basically just want to live a normal life and he can bank his extra savings. I keep my job, I contribute, he contributes. I don't want the expectation that I'll suddenly upgrade my life beyond what I could sustain if he left me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:30 PM
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I'm not looking for someone rich because their lifestyles tend to be far, far different from mine, and I'm not interested. I live within my means and am content with what I have and what I am. My ex made six figures and was constantly travelling, talking about his second home on Grand Cayman, bitching about redoing his kitchen... there is nothing relatable about that for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:15 PM
1

a, I don't know the guy that posts here, so how do I know whether I'd date him, and b, manosphere is not a whole-ass ethnicity with its own traditions, so you can stop with the false comparisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:56 PM
0

Bigotry and talking down to me? Smashing combination. Normal Afghan men exist. Some of them have immigrated to the United States, even, because they didn't agree with the Taliban. Many acted as translators during the Forever War. I can't believe I have to explain this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:17 PM
0

Fine, it was extremely fucking prejudiced of you to assume what you did. And no better than racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:06 PM
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On PPD? "High-achieving" women would do the trick if I were male
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:03 PM
1

And why's that, if he isn't a drain on her finances?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:41 PM
1

Why can't you be happy with "satisfying career" alone? It's his money, not yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:39 PM
1

Jesus, that was racist of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:35 PM
1

Define "success".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:35 PM
1

Given cost of living, and my position on that scale, gainful employment at my wage or slightly better (so, somewhere around $50K) would be great, but I'd take gainful employment at my wage ($40K) provided he was conscious of his spending.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:34 PM
4

Just the older ones? Gen Z is just as talented as whining about the lack of provider men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:33 PM
1

But true. Family Court doesn't let hookups opt out of fatherhood and that's essentially what he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:26 PM
2

Tell her if she doesn't go with an artificial insemination, the "donor" can come after her for custody
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:24 PM
0

This is what that person was on about, upthread. Blaming people for not being able to tell someone was a bad idea until it was too late? That's terrible behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:02 PM
2

what's stopping me is that idek where to begin in terms of a profile -- I rarely if ever take selfies, no-one photographs me... there are profile help subs but "help me write the damn thing in the first place" subs?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:56 PM
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You, ah, kinda brought the spectre of that argument into the discussion, my man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:53 PM
1

Awww, I love extended families <3
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:38 PM
2

I had a fully sexually active six-year relationship under my parents' noses, they did not care and nobody shamed each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:20 PM
2

Depends on his relationship with them. If they're good with each other, then I'm good with it. The more family, the better, IMO. Especially since I still live with my parents out of choice (besties!).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:18 PM
1

Not around here, you can do very well on 70K
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:45 PM
1

Depending on your flavour of religious, past early 20s they are all married, Christian nationalist whackjobs, or... both
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:04 PM
2

That's why we provide safe guards like student housing We don't, for a lot of people. They're out on their own. So...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:02 PM
2

r/thathappened
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:32 PM
4

Or what if the 18-year-old can handle her shit around grown men? The women -- and it's usually women -- of PPD never give young women the credit they may be due. I'd have been furious if someone tried to tell me I was too young to be an actual adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:26 PM
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Awful naive of you to think all 18-year-olds live in student housing. Or even go to college. Also, I have some sad news for you if you think the system is any more inclined to offer protection than anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:25 PM
2

oh gosh!!! Mazel tov to you and the new parents!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:05 PM
1

I liked the internet better before both of these, ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:09 PM
1

Can't people just be fucking normal omfg
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:53 PM
3

we need a non-whackjob HHS secretary who will fix this, oh my goodness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:20 PM
3

What is the DINK lifestyle other than literally "two people making money and not having kids"? Do they expect to travel all the time (unrealistic for most working Americans), live high on the hog (in how much debt?)...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:43 PM
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That thing is a little meh for me. I put in 39-60, not married, min height 5'3", not obese, min salary $40K, and it gave me 3/5. Leads me to wonder what they're using for "not obese" and where they're pulling their stats. Dad bod is "not obese", for example. Do they account for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:33 PM
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100% this. Entitlement doesn't look good on anyone. Having preferences is one thing, having entitlement is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:24 PM
1

Where do you suggest I go to spread it, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:10 AM
6

Hey, feminism told women we were equal to you. Not my fault if there are feminists not following that through to its logical conclusion, to hold up their responsibilities as well as agitate for their rights. With rights come responsibilities. My foremothers earned me the right to help get bread for my family -- so it is my responsibility to do so. If Karen and Becky don't like it, piss on 'em.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:54 AM
6

In fairness, I judge them too if they're there by choice. I just don't think it's a great idea or a healthy form of validation to pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:42 PM
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Women much more likely to judge women or guys for doing porn, onlyfans, stripping, modeling, escorting. Clearly you have never watched an episode of Whatever. If you think those guys are totally cool with the SWs they have on, whooooooeeeee
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:39 PM
5

Well, we have feminism now, so women don't get to complain if they have to provide. Them's the breaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:37 PM
4

It's fine if men opt out of things that feel soul-sucking, if they would rather not be obliged to provide. I watched my dad go the soul-sucking route instead of the route that would have suited him all along and that is what broke him. He wasn't meant for IT, he was meant for social work, and the irony is it would have been more stable and paid better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:32 PM
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I think people period aren't socialized to make the best educational decisions, at least in the US. Parents push their children, guidance counselors, schools, to say nothing of the marketing departments of colleges/universities. If I had known that I could go into the human services and use that degree earlier than about the age of 25, if anyone had thought it would be a worthwhile use of my talents (as opposed to what would make my parents and my high school look the best on paper), I would hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 09:45 PM
2

The Bitch King actually has me nailed. Oh, the pain of being perceived, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:44 PM
2

I would choose the man. You would be free to choose the tree, incidentally, and I would not take offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:37 PM
3

A subset of women are taught that men are evil. This is on par with women mistaking incels for all men and just about as accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:32 PM
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Dana, look at his flair, though. You're not going to get anywhere. Neither am I.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:55 PM
7

Never encourage a woman to think creatively about the many ways she can turn her environment deadly for her abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:54 PM
5

The instant stripping of women's rights might actually embolden them to contemplate violence. It certainly wouldn't put them/us back in our rightful place, wherever you think that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:52 PM
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I think there's not enough empathy. I think women could be a lot more empathetic toward men. The answer, to me, is never less love, more hate. That only breeds even more hate and misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:50 PM
7

And? Does anything lie beneath that? Would you care to more carefully examine your rather flippant invocation of the Holocaust?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:27 PM
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Mate. Those... those were war crimes. Genocide. Extraordinary circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:40 PM
3

Well, what are you expecting, then? Ugly women to get princess treatment? That assumes we're the kind of people who even seek it out -- we would be doing things to become at least average if we did want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:13 PM
1

Truth. I'll continue being A Romantic, and people who are not can go on their merry. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:07 PM
1

And for what it's worth, I think it's shitty of a woman to keep people around just for emotional validation, knowing that they are interested in her romantically. Set them free, ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:06 PM
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Women are the submissive, passive sex, and enjoy being treated like warm fuck meat. Their sexual mores are very reactive and mostly dictated by social molding. A fact reflected in how nearly every woman that goes to college decides she’s bisexual for a year or two. Is there a meaningful reference for that set of "facts", or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:01 PM
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I am acknowledged by men. I am approached with a smile, not shied away from as if I will hurt someone. People are genuinely pleased to see me when they're thrown into social situations with me. Maybe I am not quite ugly enough to understand the plight of a truly ugly woman, but I am missing teeth and that does become apparent when I smile. (Fucking American healthcare that treats specifically these little bones as insignificant/charges through the nose to fix them...)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:59 PM
1

Then I pray I am never in the position to find out, because I am genuinely horrified at the prospect of suddenly only caring about the superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:48 PM
1

would opt for a toothless person living in a trailer park as long as they had a "kind heart." That's a bit ad absurdum, isn't it? There are legions between Stacy and Cletus. I'm not going to pretend I'm some altruistic angel. Goodness knows I wouldn't turn down the best I could get, if I loved him and he loved me. But there's the point: love should be the main factor, not a transaction (sex for money, money for the soft life). And love is hard to explain. I'm not talking about attraction -- I me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:44 PM
1

The goal, of course, would be to be needed for both: sexual and emotional. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:27 PM
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It's not accurate to the degree this sub thinks, though. The gender roles alone play hell with comparisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:09 AM
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That's not actually the same tho? What makes a bisexual man somehow sluttier than a straight man?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:29 PM
2

My dad didn't need to, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:44 PM
2

She was the problem. Be assured of that. Oh my days.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:34 PM
3

so, about that 18-year-old doing OnlyFans, you're fine with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:31 PM
3

Ma'am, I'm half-American and half-German and my parents had no such hangups. They raised me to hold my own in the adult world by the time I was eighteen. Sorry you didn't have that experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:29 PM
1

No lie, someone on this subreddit has suggested to me that the age of consent should not be 18, it should be higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:27 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:14 PM
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By all means, show me where these fabulous government-run shelters are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:23 PM
1

...I'm looking at what it is people wore as well, and what parts of the body were emphasized.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:47 PM
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I was always there to talk about their day, their problems - I wanted to understand them, to be their actual partner. How were your exes net negatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:45 PM
1

Actually, this would be a refreshing change for me. Most of them have wanted what I had to give sexually, not emotionally. I'd like to be needed on an emotional level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:51 PM
3

Hourglass figures have not always been the standard. This has in fact varied throughout history, which you would know if you paid attention to the art of any given period.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:50 PM
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The government doesn't run shelters. I'm sorry to have to disabuse you of that notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:32 PM
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Even in the United States, where we haven't used the draft in 50 years, young men are still required to sign up for it. The government makes them agree to terms that basically state "we can rob you of your freedom and bodily autonomy at any moment and force you to go die in a war". One, abolish the draft. Two, vote for the people who are less likely to start or continue wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:31 PM
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Why do women unmarried and without kids work lesser hours? I work the same hours as everyone else with my job. My company being humane is not a privilege issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:28 PM
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JK Rowling is a terrible example. She's been outright transphobic in public. Bernie Sanders: fair, and also unfair to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:16 PM
1

In this case, it's more like you're saying "all men are violent" and the men are trying to respond with "not all men, I personally am not".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:13 PM
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I don't think either women OR men are a monolith in that respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:09 PM
1

Exactly! I dumped a guy because our levels of financial risk-taking were incompatible. We were relatively on the same level in terms of income, but he was living so close to the bone that it made me nervous. It takes an actual bankruptcy to begin to change that kind of behaviour in someone. (I've witnessed this.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:07 PM
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Applying the norms of non-straight relationships to straight relationships is usually an exercise in futility, yes! But I don't see that happening nearly as often as straight people trying to impose THEIR norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:52 PM
1

That's shallow AF, sis. No-one but you is responsible for improving your life monetarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:48 PM
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Then why are you yelling at us about it? If we're the ones who are least likely to exploit you for resources, surely there is a better place you could advocate for healthier dating practices?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:47 PM
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the majority of women I've met it means less about earning more and more about being responsible with the income you do have. Please shout this louder. From the rooftops, preferably.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:46 PM
5

Then I'll provide for me and he can do what he likes with his money, fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:44 PM
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[gets out soapbox] Straight people NEED to stop trying to apply heteronormative gender roles to queer relationships. Queer relationship dynamics are different. Go read "Stone Butch Blues" if you want half a clue about butches.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:39 PM
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Date other demisexuals? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:35 PM
1

Honestly, if you told me these kids' parents had been hardcore into purity culture around the time I Kissed Dating Goodbye came out, I wouldn't be shocked
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:10 AM
2

[dead, dead, dead]
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:50 AM
2

Rumour has it Stephen Hawking even ran around on his wife well after the MND set in O.O
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:42 AM
9

exactly??? like... okay, there's short and then there's "something went wrong in this person's physical development", and I have tried to have the hots for little people but no go
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:29 AM
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Be the one to approach and ask men out. I enjoy this. I like doing the picking, actually. Pay for dates (when they make more money) It's hard getting by on my income in my city. I'm unlikely to vibe with the kind of guy who makes less money. That said, I don't means-test paying for dates, I just pull out my wallet. If he wants to pay, and it makes him feel good, I let him. If he would prefer I paid for myself, I have no problem doing that. Date a man less educated than them. Date a man who makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:18 AM
6

If it's so bad here, why are so many women here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:59 PM
2

Well, I've always secretly been a Boomer, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:49 PM
2

I know a chronically unemployed man who is 400 lbs and begs the women in his life for money. When he does get a job, he can't hold it. He is unsurprisingly doing nothing to mend this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:27 PM
2

Whyever not? Feminism didn't absolve us of our responsibility to society. Whoever says that it does has no grasp of what it means to be under the social contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:23 PM
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For me, pretty much yeah. I mean, what should a woman be if not responsible for herself? It's like the phrase "pull up yer big girl panties". Remember that you are an adult, with adult responsibilities to yourself and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:21 PM
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You told me to take responsibility for myself and my emotions and not blame everyone BUT myself for what I'm feeling. At least IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:18 PM
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If you don't understand that two women together/two men together won't work the same as a man and a woman together, idk what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:24 PM
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Spoken like the straightest person alive. Straight relationships look different from queer ones; the gender dynamics alone speak to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:01 PM
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The first step in becoming a viable partner for someone else is good faith. Probably the pervasive "women/men lie" is why the sexes have grown so far apart. The second step is not woe-is-meing all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:47 AM
6

Careful, this is PPD. If you say "settle" within earshot of a man, he'll start wailing about how she really wants Chad. But almost all of them can experience being a catalyst for their orgasm at least once in their lives. You have to want to kiss the person first, yes? What's out there when you get into Dorothy's age range is... interesting. What's out there even just in my age range is... interesting. Over 35, it's not so much chlorine in the dating pool as Agent Orange.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:01 AM
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Sure, Jan
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:58 AM
3

At my age? Only if he's Father Ralph de Bricassart.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:58 AM
5

What if, in this case, the "cel" is an inability to get the thing they want? For a male incel, it's sex; for a female incel, it's commitment from a man who meets her standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:46 AM
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I think it is a combination of the violence and the yas-queening that goes on. Honestly, we don't hold ourselves to standards because to some people, standards feel like oppression. I mean, I hold myself to standards -- I didn't even date for nine years because I wasn't where I wanted to be (volcel/nun mode). But some women do believe they are entitled to the partner of their choice without being what said partner might want for themselves, and I resent that attitude because honestly it makes th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:45 AM
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She's telling you her truth as in what she has personally experienced. Men aren't lazy losers as a gender. Are some men? Absolutely. So are some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:38 AM
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So then why is the divorce rate for lesbians shockingly high, while the lowest rate is for gay male marriages? I hate to have to point out what should be obvious, but people who are not queer and married have no clue what queer marriage dynamics are like and should probably not be using queer marriages to score points when talking about straight people's behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:14 AM
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You can be two people providing for yourselves individually. It is doable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:11 AM
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Agreed 100% with everything you've said. Unfortunately, the career I've chosen is inherently low-pay, but I don't expect to be supported either during a marriage or after it ends, if it should end, so it's prenup town for me, esp. since I am expecting to come into assets that I don't want parted out in case of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:09 AM
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She's trying to tell her truth. She even followed it up with "I can't really speak for the rest of the population".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:00 AM
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I would say it should always BE the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:07 AM
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Apartment and a stable job, yes. That would be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:11 PM
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Got any more hot takes?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:26 AM
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That's a mother's advice to her son... a king. Clearly not a man who actually needs his queen to toil for him. Prooftexting is vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:15 AM
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Equal support for equal effort being put into our mutual survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:24 AM
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Get a degree and fucking well teach them for a wage
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:03 AM
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I'm never going to date someone because of their potential. At my age, they have to have manifested something. I'm thirty bloody nine, and I like them older than I am, so if by forty at least he hasn't managed to make something of himself, I really despair that he ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:03 AM
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God forbid I should want an equal partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:01 AM
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From your lips to God's ears! I would truly love to not be in such dire straits!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:00 AM
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Do tell. What's he doing? Given that we've established elsewhere that he's probably not founding a whole new government.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:42 AM
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Well, young men aren't likely to be... drafting a whole new Constitution (which the US may need by 2028) and men who are old enough to be about that are also probably men with an employment history, who will be going back to their jobs/professions once the altruistic task is done. This is about as based in reality as every single dream I've had about seducing Dr. Abrams from Chicago Med.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:37 AM
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That may have worked for Marc Antony but most of these guys are not him
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:33 AM
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What even is this mystical feminine influence? And isn't it masculine to be supporting a man? If you believe in that kind of horse puckey.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:31 AM
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Wait, are you seriously comparing modern-day hobosexuals to Alexander Hamilton?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:27 AM
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Flair never more applicable, except in reverse :D
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:26 AM
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I've no interest in a man with his head so in the clouds that he ignores the practical. Not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:25 AM
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Well, if those aren't weasel words, I don't know what are. Feminine influence? How in the heck?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:24 AM
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So if he can't provide for himself, I'm supposed to have faith that someday he'll pull his own weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:22 AM
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How are we supposed to know he's got all this potential? What if his potential never manifests?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:45 AM
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She was an actual child. I don't care if she derived pleasure from it, those men are rapists and if you condone their behaviour, you're no better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:35 AM
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But why do you care what they do as long as they're not pestering you for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:13 AM
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For what it's worth, not everyone. I say go and find your own groove. Make your own kind of music. Be a literal monk if you want. Monks are cool. I don't get society's obsession with people partnering up. Like... it's okay to be a spinster or a bachelor. If people do drop out, what's it to anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:11 AM
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Broke people should perhaps consider the optics of dating people who are not broke. I didn't date when I was broke because I knew that people who were not broke would consider me gold-digging at best. I'm sorry, but I want a partner who will not need to turn to me for their basic needs to be met. I want, in other words, a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:23 PM
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There's broke and there's broke. I like the kind who are capable of paying, but recognise that going 50/50 establishes a dynamic where we are both responsible for ourselves. The ones who genuinely can't afford to date should maybe get their lives together first.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:49 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/1gmisqe/aitah_for_joking_about_when_my_mom_used_to_whoop/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:42 PM
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You're overthinking things. Nine Hail Marys and an Our Father. Go in grace, my child.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:36 AM
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You were 15 in a post you made six months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:34 AM
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That doesn't mean I'm risking what I have. What if he decides to get greedy? I'm not giving him what little is mine by right. Just as I don't want what's his.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:27 AM
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Ask yourself why a court, in this day and age when judges make determinations based on formulas, would continually find that its formulas result in a woman needing support.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:09 AM
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This sub should be 18+. OP needs to be doing normal teenager things, with normal teenagers, not regurgitating manosphere talking points. Where are his parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:20 AM
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As a woman who spent a year doing that, I can tell you I had to go through a serious rage period before getting my head back on straight -- and that I'm far from the first woman to document this phenomenon! Your entire self gets rearranged because we're so brainwashed to centre "the other gender" (if you believe there are only two). A certain amount of brain re-washing has to happen before clarity descends and men and women can coexist as just people, one of whom might happen to be romantically …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:10 AM
4

Decentering women would, in a healthy way, just mean that a man lives his life to better himself, with the presence of women being natural and normal, like any other humans. That's how decentering men worked out for me. Sure, I'm a thirsty cow on Reddit, but offline I'm actually quite balanced regarding men. They're entire and whole and flawed and beautiful humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:06 AM
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Or the dad getting cigarettes and beer. Dads do collect when the formulas dictate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:01 AM
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live like men Live like equal human beings. I don't want to be a man, I just want bodily autonomy -- and when I had the chance, seized it with both hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:38 AM
4

Am woman, would insist on prenup -- why do you assume that women don't come into marriage without assets or expecting to gain assets that we would like to protect?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:26 AM
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Spousal support is typically calculated on income -- and in a mediated divorce, which is the kind I deal in, is negotiable. The parties might choose other compensations (I don't pay spousal support if you get my equity in the house, for example). People get hosed when they litigate. I dunno what else to tell guys other than "don't litigate, mediate".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:22 AM
21

Just like the men who quit their jobs to avoid paying child support, fuck around will lead to find out, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:20 AM
14

It's capped according to income, and men have been known to quit their jobs in order to get out of paying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:17 AM
12

Source? Are you, in fact, someone who works in family law?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:16 AM
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With men over 30. We call that statutory rape in most jurisdictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:56 PM
5

Not what I'm saying. What I am saying is that where one or more of these factors combine, you'll see a spike in pregnancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:55 PM
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That's the OTHER problem: access. And the OTHER other problem: religious prohibitions on same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:52 PM
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They know enough to know it's not the stork, not enough to know how to prevent it or what acts lead to what.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:37 PM
3

Women who've managed to accumulate any wealth would be wise not to marry in the US at this time, given social trends. If they do so, they should be prepared for the state to seize their individual assets and declare that those belong to their husbands. Straight out of history. There's power in being feme sole.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:36 PM
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his daughter has been behaving as an adult with men over thirty since she was 13. His daughter has been used by men over 30 since she was 13, let's not pretend that in a different world she would have willingly done any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:26 PM
10

Incentive but not education, in many places.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:24 PM
5

Agreed. From the work I do, I know that the very best parents, the ones with the happiest children, are the ones who, despite being separated themselves, manage to co-parent as more or less one unit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:24 PM
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Per OP's request: Some of us are childfree and prioritize romance over the hypothetical children we're not having. I don't know why OP wanted it here, because it does rather refute "all people who put romance over kids are horrible". But I obey.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:20 PM
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I needed to be in a family care setting, not some random lady's home. I needed my people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:23 PM
1

Hey, that's my line ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:42 AM
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I wouldn't mind separate bedrooms if it was established from the word go that this was for sanity and sleep's sake -- but I would very much like cuddle nights, e.g. neither of us has to get up earlier than the other tomorrow, so the sleep will be fine if we're both there as opposed to me wanting to sleep as late as I can and him being up at some insane hour because he actually wants to drink coffee before hitting the road (for me, it's very much "get up, clothes on, hygiene, out the door"). Or w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:01 PM
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That's a hot take. My parents were so busy trying to provide all the needs of a family that of course I didn't get all my needs met. Hence the weakness in the nuclear family structure my mother's generation adopted. Had I been brought up in the bosom of the wider family, all of our needs would have been met. Rank individualism is to blame here. People need more people than just the pieces of a pair-bond to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:09 PM
2

Okay, perhaps that's a little extreme. But surely a more extensive family system than two parents struggling to bring up a handful of kids would be nice to have...?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:05 PM
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I could have phrased it better. I apologise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:59 PM
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I don't, as it happens. I'll ask around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:17 AM
2

And this is when I point out that a pension system of any kind is a gamble that you will live long enough to enjoy your old age, and wouldn't it be nice to find some way to extend men's lifespans instead of punishing women for men's shitty health?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:15 AM
2

So you should look to the success of smaller communities that do follow these rules. What is the happiness among the Chasidim, for instance?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:13 AM
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I meant for the arranged marriages for men. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:18 AM
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the collective future Maybe the future needs to be a lot more collective and a lot less individualist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:16 AM
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In Sweden, per capita, women pay 1.46 times less taxes than men, but receive 1.16 times more "pay-related transfers" gibbs, and 1.49 times "general and needs-tested allowances" gibbs. Childless women, too? Because here in the US, childless women get bupkis unless we're literally too infirm to function. Even then we have to use all our energy to fight for a bloody pittance from the government. And go into legal debt. Source: was too infirm to function for years, looked at the process for getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:14 AM
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Where are you going to get the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:12 AM
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I actually like the idea of children being raised communally like the Shakers did it? Not as fond of the idea of segregating the genders and forbidding love between them, though. People who wanted to be lovers could have their own place in the community, without the loneliness of having to rear their children on their own with no help whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:06 AM
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Defend the country? If you want to still have a country, someone has to. So when there's another draft, draft able-bodied people (not men, people) between certain ages who are not yet married or parents. Then expand outward from there. Pay taxes? You want that country to run, right? Taxes benefit literally everyone, or do men not use roads or firefighters?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:03 AM
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Tear down the nuclear family so lauded by the Victorian middle-classes? I wouldn't cry too hard. My mother certainly didn't grow up in a nuclear family; her extended kin were an integral part of her life, the last generation so raised in my family, and that generation did well for itself. Unfortunately, since they're Boomers, when they married, they split off into nuclear families, and the resulting children are by and large choosing lives that are not that. It's like we figured out how much the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:01 AM
4

Just a bangmaid mommy then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:00 PM
0

Eh, I do a lot of wondering why Hollywood pretty is so generic, which kind of makes it ugly to me. Their faces seem to lack all character.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:54 PM
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You could always do Bachelor/ette brackets, if you could stand to lose the brain cells [edit] Actually, Love Island might work better?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:25 PM
6

the drunkest Creep behavior right there, boo
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:16 PM
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Except that attraction is subjective, and whatever this ELO score is, it cannot possibly account for all the factors that go into attraction. Yes, even physical attraction. You will simply need, someday, to accept that attraction is alchemy as much as anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:14 PM
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Supporting :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:37 AM
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Fuckin' truth. This is why I kinda love being autistic. People forgive me a lot more of what is really just a racial tendency to be forthright (I am also German, for my sins).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:24 AM
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And for me, by and large it is not. 'course I'm apparently also much more European than American in my dating standards -- damn bicultural upbringing strikes again :D
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:22 AM
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I mean, that's beyond the shadow of a doubt territory, that's valid
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:19 AM
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Capitalism has screwed the dating dynamic harder than certain Vice Presidents have been rumoured to screw couches. Suddenly everyone's putting a price tag on their courting time. Courtship can't be about the pure pleasure of each other's company?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:19 AM
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Yeah, but unlike the guy I was arguing with earlier, I'm pretty sure you also see a woman who goes 50/50 with you as a person and not another hole to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:16 AM
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When they clearly have no interest in me, and/or when the conversation is so tedious that it's obvious we are not going to hit it off. Your rules aren't unreasonable at all, as you're taking indicators that she is disinterested and/or juggling too many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:05 AM
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I NEED LIKE BURNING
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:01 PM
1

So... if you wouldn't date average readers... date above-average readers? It might encourage other women to broaden their horizons. Suddenly Becky, for all that she is a 6.5-7, drops to a 5 because she only reads cheap Harlequin crap. Make Becky get your mind hot before you fuck her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:44 PM
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Women don't read nonfiction or watch documentaries? This is news to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:17 PM
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Rumours that it was a hack job are just that, did you know? Most accounts closer to the event just say "yeah, took his head off"; it's the further out you get that the embellishments about needing three tries start to creep in.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:15 PM
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Indeed. Except I'm the widowed Mrs Tom, so really he can't complain ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:28 PM
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Average men could raise their value just by expecting me to be interesting instead of just aesthetically pleasing. Make me bring something to the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:26 PM
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We definitely can. Some women are just being very loud about not wanting to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:20 PM
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It comes rather from courtly love, which was an idealised romantic expression... often between people who were already married to other people, just flirting at Court for diversion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:02 PM
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It actually has? I am not as intimidated or hung up about dating as I was; I'm not as precious. I've been encouraged to let whatever happen that will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:35 PM
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Or... me?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:54 PM
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Nooooonono. My ex, deep breath in: polyfucker who coerced his wife into "ethical" non-monogamy ("Let me have secondaries or I'll just go on cheating on you"), eventually driving her to drink. No concept of consent. Seemed to think, after he'd paid his dues wooing me, that I existed for his sexual pleasure, on demand, every Wednesday night, but when I asked if I could please matter to him in ways that meant anything to me, pffft who are we kidding?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:51 PM
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None of the ones after my ex were objectively abusive by any means. Some had problematic qualities, but I got gone before any of it could boil over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:46 PM
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Same, though. Faces are interesting even if you would personally not bang. Humans are interesting full stop. Whatever happened to the concept of the face with character?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:43 PM
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Not sure if you're asking about my abusive ex (who was older, fat, and nerdy, though on the Chad side he was certainly extraverted, self-confident, etc.) or about the men I dated nine years after him. So... the ones nine years later: On the negative end, the bully was definitely one of those "I'm going to be a complete asshole and then act hurt when you question me" types. The ones without visible income were completely prepared to make me their sugar mama without my consent... and two called me…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:32 PM
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They turned out to be a mixed bag... because humans are. There was always a reason they weren't for me, which is why I'm back to being quite single. One was a bit of a bully with a chip on his shoulder; one was all but homeless (because he refused to get a job, not because he couldn't work). The sweet spot, I have ultimately decided, is tall enough, confident enough, strong enough. And what that looks like, I'll know when I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:21 PM
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Have you seen the number of fleshlight/prostitution advocates in this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:47 PM
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I prefer the femcel lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:20 PM
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Honestly, both of them could be. Mr. Player: he's used to getting his way. Maybe he's physically intimidated his way into most of those relationships. Maybe he coasts on looks, but emotionally he's not worth it. Mr. Virgin: he's NOT used to getting his way... but he's been listening to manosphere assholes telling him what men deserve, he's gone a bit blackpill, and he ends up taking it out on the woman he's with because she's a flawed human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:12 PM
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However, they always go for exactly the demographic of guys who do these things: tall, broad-shouldered, extroverted, tough, aggressive, douchebag type guys. I never have. And I got abused anyway. So I stopped dating entirely for nine years, got a glow-up, and when I did start dating, went for men who were closer to your "polar opposite".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:07 PM
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Usually the incentive is "this sucks and I don't want to be here anymore". How badly it sucks is what varies. Some people will walk at the drop of a hat, others will stick it out until it's their relationship or their sanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:03 PM
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On the nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:46 PM
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Oh. You think that. There is no point in engaging with you any longer. Sorry we both wasted our time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:59 PM
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Because of our entire mythos around how Mary was conceived? The point is that Jesus's birth is a damn miracle cos no dick ever got near the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:59 PM
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There's no difference in effect re: animation, except that real human bodies are even MORE of an adjustment to make. You don't know what you're talking about when it comes to romantic fiction. What wild and irrational act? Name me a book. Men in porn tend to use women's bodies like fleshlights. Two people are involved but if you think they're both getting off, uh, not in most of the free stuff. The "selfish" part refers to the fact that in porn, it's all about him and seldom about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:57 PM
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She would get nothing? If she died, she would get nothing, that is how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:51 PM
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Also: the born-again virgins are not progressive Christians. We don't think virginity matters except Mary's.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:25 AM
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The non-progressive Christians got us Trump, so
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:24 AM
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I'm happy to report that I am just as capable of dissenting with women as I am with all other genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:23 AM
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I've said this before re: smut - the better analogy is a lady's toys. Cheap, easy highs? Check. Often makes a partner seem superfluous, to the point where reality can be disappointing? Also check. Some toys desensitize a woman to the point where another person's touch doesn't do much for her. But smut... depending on who you are, a sex scene is just like a sex scene in a normal film. You're not typically dropping trou to wank to it, it's part of a plotline. There's more of a pretext than "these …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:17 AM
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Do you listen to women when we tell you who we are? Do you accept that women aren't a monolith?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:30 AM
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Fun fact: there are progressive denominations of Christianity. We're not the fire-and-brimstone Biblical literalists (or even inerrant-ists) that have been bawwing the loudest about THE FAMILY and THE BIRTHRATE and THE SOCIALISM.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:29 AM
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You don't need to be this bitchy to me. I'm not your enemy. You're being this bitchy at everyone. I don't understand why. I'm trying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:24 AM
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Self-improvement is stupid? How is "getting in shape, working hard, making more money, and presenting themselves better" in any way tied to red pill or tradcon views? Any man can do these things. Any woman can do these things. Women call it a glow-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:17 AM
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Men try to self improve to bring value and meet women's high demands by getting in shape, working hard, making more money, and presenting themselves better. Well then you're a red pill misogynist wannabe alpha male who is enforcing traditional gender roles. No. This is legitimately the best one. The trouble is that it's the hardest and most men go for the lower-hanging fruit you list further down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:15 AM
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Let us say that if he is happy to be single, by all means he can keep watching porn and internalising the utterly selfish sexuality it espouses. Regrettably, there is such a thing as not being able to get it up with an actual woman when you're used to porn. If you want a relationship, learn to jack it to your own imagination. Also, there are people hurt by porn. You don't know if that actress is trafficked (or even acting).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:08 AM
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Next, invent a way to raise children that doesn't result in them bringing home every last ruddy germ at school/daycare and I might be interested in the prospect of parenthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:26 AM
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You suggested there was an effort to disenfranchise men without even knowing the meaning of disenfranchisement. Stupid is as stupid does.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:24 AM
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start comparing how much one person put and how much this same person get from it. That's just it, though. You actually do get out of it what you pay in. My mother's contributions throughout her career scale directly to what she now receives. Incidentally, if you support the current looting of the bits of the government that control literal blood-sucking mosquitoes that spread disease, surprise?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:20 AM
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And homophobia. Jesus, is she a ten-year-old boy on a school bus?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:16 AM
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Yes. Please, please God let lifelike love bots be invented so that men who are literally too repellent to attract human women will still have someone to love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:15 AM
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The delulu is so strong in everything in this comment. Benefits and assistance my sweet lardy arse, I don't get either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:14 AM
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disenfranchise men Wait, you can still vote. There's legislation now that actually disenfranchises women without the proper ID because they had the temerity to take their husbands' names on marriage -- you know, like the tradcon family encourages.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:13 AM
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No, but he is rather making fun of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:03 AM
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It's weaponised sarcasm. He's making fun of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 12:54 AM
1

You can't see the /s plastered all over that comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 12:51 AM
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That's not what she means. She's alluding to the idea that society will collapse if men don't get their promised wife and child(ren).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 12:44 AM
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And that is a righteous option. I'm glad you have a sense of what's right and what's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 03:15 PM
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That's a risk no matter who does the approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 03:12 PM
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Believe me, given the work I do, the welfare of the actual child in question was up there for me when I went off on those women. It all just... came together in a spiral of Wrongbad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:49 AM
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I would date someone who had a child who was known to be disciplined, well-behaved, courteous and polite. I'll put it that way. If a child is raised to respect my humanity, we'll get along. But I won't stay in a situation where that's not true. As no-one ought to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:29 AM
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Mm, true. So... really it's down to work-life balance no matter the profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:27 AM
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How would you know? You're not female.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:25 AM
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A nice, normal-looking doctor in family practice, say, or a specialty like dermatology or plastics? Totally dateable. A lawyer who doesn't work insane hours? Totally dateable. But business ownership comes with a kind of risk that I am not comfortable with, maybe because I've seen too many small businesses go under.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:23 AM
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The trouble with dating someone who already has children is that they can treat you, their not-ever-a-parent, any way they choose. Kids can be malicious little fucks. If I'm not allowed to be The Adult In The Room for fear that little Shitsley will lie about me to Dad, you bet I'm not dating Dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:20 AM
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There's another 6 now? Wait. Height, length, income, and... what's the other 6? Pack?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:19 AM
2

Ehhh, it loses its shine when enough people have done it to you non-consensually.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:13 AM
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I think it's more dysfunctional to expect anyone to be sexually available except when they literally aren't able to function. Sometimes people don't want to be sexual. This shouldn't be news.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:12 AM
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Trying to find one that is neither misogynistic nor misandrist, probably. Suspect this is because people who are in the middle don't feel the need to huddle together and yawp about how awesome their in-group is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 12:50 AM
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As I said to the Bitch King, I left a post that looked different to what it became. I'm glad she ultimately got good advice. Do I wish more of it had been rooted in some kind of morality instead of "you know you'll be worse off if you do this?" Also yes. Those who told her that the child would suffer for her decision, those I have no problem with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 12:49 AM
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I am aware of what happened in the post itself, you needn't act like you're owning me or anything. When I left my comments, late last night, the post looked very different to what it ended up becoming. But that doesn't make for a neat narrative, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 12:45 AM
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Only in the most literal sense of the word: yes, I would like to signal that women also have virtues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 12:26 AM
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I've seen enough people generalize us to know that we do get generalized. If they're going to do it anyway, maybe they should have a better impression of us. I'm tired of "woman" leaving a bad taste in men's mouths.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:39 PM
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I say it's my problem if I want women to be regarded as sane, thinking souls. I rebuked those women because at the time I did, no-one else was. I wasn't willing to be thought anything like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:20 PM
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My right not to be peddled like a product to someone who lacks a relationship supersedes someone else's right to a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:48 PM
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http://np.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1khtmnf/should_i_keep_the_baby/ Fortunately, the women I called out were downvoted just like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:44 PM
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It was the hill I was willing to die on. I flat-out said, "This is why women get a bad rep." If that was a tactless generalisation about gender, welp, there's a time for tactlessness and this was it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:41 PM
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Going backwards: I was neurodivergent in an environment that punished that very severely. The thing is... I learned how to be so much more than that environment would have bred in me had I not been shunned. The people who could thrive in that environment were all pretty fucked-up. I appreciate that you aren't condemning me to a life of solitude for being nearly forty. :) Since you've expanded on your point of view, of course I will consider it further going forward on my path. I am also a person…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:40 PM
1

I get both at once from the people I'm around! It's the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:35 PM
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Women encouraging a pregnant woman to keep a pregnancy that her partner had been adamant prior to conception that he did not want. "This is your last chance to be a mooooom! Take him for child support, girl! You deserve this!" Consent to sex is not consent to parenthood. For any gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:33 PM
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I mean. It is what it is. We all have choices to make. Those people have made their choices. If a woman doesn't want to be in a situationship, she can leave. If a woman doesn't want an older partner, she can reject him. If a woman is older and railing about age gaps, she probably has a complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:31 PM
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I'm 39. In my youth I did not actually have that social success. I remember what it was like to be starved even of genuine friendship. I turned to music, books, and fandom to fill the hole and I got through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:41 PM
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better women's sub than TwoX? I called out misandry there, they probably looked at my post history, and now I'm no longer welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:39 PM
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Brits are not unattractive. OMFG you are smokeshows compared to the average equivalent in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:38 PM
1

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:36 PM
1

Since this is likely to be me in about 15 years, um, exactly what I'm doing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:34 PM
1

So very employed. Hopeless company girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:30 PM
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Good long naps, and I mean LONG. Like, none of this catnap shit, I want a stretch of 3+ hours. Milka chocolate bars. Nothing like the flavour of my childhood. Everything humming along perfectly at work. Dork-ass documentaries and public information films. Music. Music feeds my soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:28 PM
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From experience: the one I had? When he actually gave a damn about pleasing me and not merely himself? Gave a GOOD goddamn and made me scream to the heavens. Things went very south when he got bored of that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:26 PM
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And "social success" doesn't mean that everyone likes me, it just means that I'm confident enough to socialize and be myself regardless of whether others like me or not. In DEIB spheres, this is the B: belonging. You crave belonging. On some level, we all crave belonging, sure. But then you take it to a couple of extremes that most people do not: most of us genuinely do derive happiness from things other than social success, and we also don't need to be in sexual/romantic relationships in order …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:23 PM
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Because you're all over the place defending your kink like there's not an automod post for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:54 PM
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Are you red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:46 PM
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Well, they banned me overnight, so apparently the culture is only pro a certain type of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 12:44 PM
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That was a weird response...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 12:42 PM
1

THIRST TRAP: Peter Ginn getting dressed. Sexily. ...yes, he is actually with the realms of "would bone" https://youtu.be/yXVzSkfPX4g?si=8VwHEJLZUVjUEwe_&t=1103
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 03:18 AM
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Why does PPD of all places feel more sane than somewhere like TwoX in this regard?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 03:17 AM
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True. I can only mangle the English language so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 03:06 AM
1

I have to own a bikini to get some? [groans theatrically] I like these better. For him AND her!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:21 AM
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Pronounce it "spaghett'" and you're fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:18 AM
1

omfg you are unfairly hot
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:15 AM
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Curtains! But my whore ass prefers men with an abundance of hair to men who have it and get RID of it wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:12 AM
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It seems easy to me but there is apparently a contingent for whom this is wildly unthinkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:07 AM
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For some people this is evidently not the case. O.o
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:07 AM
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Q4W: how did you develop actual empathy for men? Asking on behalf of some Reddit "feminists".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:48 AM
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Or someone who can meet me where I'm at when I'm being a bitch. I'm not that picky. What would infuriate me is always being told "Yes, Flora, queen". Or who tries to get me out of my mood by not taking me seriously (or worse, seducing me). A quiet "You done?" after I've been ranting is fine. And I'd be fine with someone who has periodic outbursts, too. Strong feelings. Someone who takes themselves just seriously enough to give a damn about what goes on, and get angry about it when it's upsetting…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:16 AM
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Exactly. Someone who doesn't mind that I'm a shrew would be ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:05 AM
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I'd settle for showing more public information films, like they did in the fifties. There are short films on vintage game freely available on YouTube! Highly recommend confused boys watch those instead of bloody manfluencers!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 12:22 AM
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I'm no great respecter of hierarchies to begin with -- that said, I don't connect it with men having to be strong. I think we're all going to find people who are on our level with regards to the individual power dynamic. Me, I need someone I won't eat for breakfast, who isn't a power-hungry jerk. I can only suppress my inner bitch for so long. This is why I like people who aren't too nice for partners. Be just as much of a bitch as I am!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 12:20 AM
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That place is hot garbage. It is Chernobyl directly after the meltdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:49 PM
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Well, this was a question for women, so you get to listen to what SHE wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:45 PM
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Oh, is he known for doing that? Oops, didn't mean to bait anyone...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:41 PM
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I absolutely do. You can't just stuff the prize cucumber from the fair in there and pray. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:40 PM
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No :) My vagina, I get to tell you how it works, not the other way around. You are trying to persuade me that what I really want is something too large and I am telling you that even my OB/GYN, who has done actual surgery on me, understands when I say "must be THIS size or smaller to enter".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:38 PM
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Uh, I've tried? And been left in horrendous pain? I think I know what I can and can't fit up there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:33 PM
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Yes, I'm sure about size. I am a small woman. I don't need anything extravagant. Politics is absolutely a dealbreaker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:31 PM
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extend that to anything with too many Xs in a row, omfg
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:59 PM
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Intelligent enough to hold his own in a conversation between us. Dresses and grooms himself well and actually cares about his presentation. Has a profession of some sort, in which he plans to stay (no midlife crisis shit here). Lives well within his means. Won't make me a travel widow -- I cannot travel due to a medical issue. Reasonably sized wang (somewhere between 3.5-5.5"). Attractive enough that I want to fuck him; not obese but needn't be ripped by a long shot. A little cushion is fine. Em…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:52 PM
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You seem upset that these relationships don't appear to be transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:37 PM
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Lana dey rey is good looking. I would rate her 6 bruh [edit] her husband actually is a 4, but wow, no, Lana is at least a 7
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:35 PM
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Take it up with sodacubes, then :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:28 PM
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According to OP, that's exactly what men prioritize!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:24 PM
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You're all tall from down here, I can't differentiate between 5'8" and 6'0" reliably. I know that side-by-side one is shorter, but I'm not usually comparing two men standing side-by-side, I'm trying to picture what height you are and failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:23 PM
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That's still really emotional, though? "Boo, women aren't being sluts FOR ME, they should let me have some if they let him."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:13 PM
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This girl has ALL the confidence of a mediocre cishet White dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:11 PM
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Yeah. You're young and in New York. The rest of the world exists. So... "don't assume everyone is the same as you"? You first.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:07 PM
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Arranged marriages? Among the middle class on down, you'll find that went out of fashion... Jesus, sometime during the medieval period.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:06 PM
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Us older people know damn well no normal 45 year old lady has an intellectual connection to an 18 year old. Speaking to this point in particular. Yes, they did. And yes, it was real and honest and good, and no, they weren't looking to take advantage of anything. If anything, I ran rings around them and we all had a good laugh watching me do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:06 PM
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Then when I see it I'll move to stop it. If I've missed it, point it out to me, I'll actually consider the POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:59 PM
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It's what's standard right now in most countries, don't be disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:58 PM
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Unlike you, I had people in my life whose motives were 100% pure. I was never groomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:57 PM
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I had more intellectual connections with adults when I was a teenager than the... vastly intellectual examples of fellow teenagers in my life. You'd have seen me isolated from the only people who got me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:57 PM
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How about updating how we raise them so they're able to reach maturity in the standard eighteen years, instead? Before you know it, they'll be in their mid-twenties before they're considered adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:54 PM
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I've seen my formerly abusive young exes mature and become better men. You stuck around to find out? LOL, I would not. No way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:48 PM
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Dating a younger woman isn't inherently harmful to her. My ex wasn't abusive because I was younger, he was abusive because he had no meaningful grasp on consent and was pornsick... which, incidentally, is also a problem to be seen in young men. If he had been my age, he still would've been a real problem for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:46 PM
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I don't expect less attractive men to stay out of my DMs. I expect random men who are not in a position to date me because they're not even local to accept a respectful "hey, sorry, barkin' up the wrong tree".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:34 PM
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Every time I assert that I am one notch above average (i.e. a 6, not a 5), men tell me I am lying to make myself feel better... but then men tell me what average is and it turns out I'm above it (body fat percentage hovering around 25%). So... can men whose attractiveness I don't even know please stop with the "you're lying" line?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:32 PM
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I mean, it is hate. It's fucked up. It shouldn't be happening. It's not happening in the spaces I'm in, so I can't exactly stop what I don't see.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:27 PM
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I could have sworn I was in a dating advice debate sub and not a political one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:19 PM
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And that's fair!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:45 AM
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I put it in plain English. What part has you confused?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:43 AM
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It's giving that one song from Evita. "Hello and Goodbye". Specifically: "I like your conversation, you've a catchy turn of phrase/You're obviously going through some adolescent phase."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:28 PM
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You speak in memes, apparently. Could you translate that into Olde Pharte because I'm very happy not to be young Gen Z/old Gen Alpha thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:38 PM
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Oooh, are we doing that thing where we don't cite our sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:36 PM
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Hey, you know how you probably hate it when men don't believe what you're saying as a woman about women? If you want them to not do that, maybe try taking them at their word?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:33 PM
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Hey, I lust after men who could've fathered me and have since I discovered lust! Why not the other way 'round?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:31 PM
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You're nineteen and you've apparently only seen the worst men have to offer. Since this isn't TwoX, I'll say it plain: not all men. Redpill men, sure, but there are plenty of sane ones out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:17 PM
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I mean, that's fair. I don't know from minute to minute which I'd choose or what my reaction would be to each, because I've never been faced with stranger danger or, unsurprisingly, a bear attack. I do know that as a thought exercise, it does encourage us all to consider what we think, what we know, and what we feel about encounters with each, bear and man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:11 PM
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Just inserting some reality into this guy's thinking. Women his size are probably rare, so his physicality is unlikely to make a difference, and most women aren't carrying a gun. In fact, if we are, we're more likely to be killed using our own weapon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:10 PM
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hey, Ray's not the one acting like this question is new in May 2025
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:53 PM
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Assume you are a woman of average size and proportions who is not packing heat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:52 PM
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wide hips on women Please look at the last 250 years of women's fashion and note the fluctuations in which body types were celebrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:26 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:23 PM
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I think you're right. Even if you have to dip into online dating in order to meet people, having built it, there's a much higher chance that someone worthwhile will notice you, and generally you've thrown a lot of bullshit dating advice out the window so you're fine with approaching if female and not obligated to stay if it's not working no matter what gender you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:22 PM
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With a lot of people whose priorities need rearranging. Nobody ethical celebrates gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:09 PM
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Most of the comments are woe-is-me content.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:03 PM
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Hold on, that $75K is a lot of money. Compare him to a guy who makes $40K.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:21 AM
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idk what to tell you if those are less important because they don't directly lead to sex, having good finances, a stable career, and some form of success in your life is just good for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:15 AM
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I think you misunderstand the meaning of "childfree". It means we don't want kids. So... why would we get with single dads?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:27 PM
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Good for them, still not interested in raising children with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 08:46 PM
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So the human rights experts who deemed solitary confinement a special form of torture are wrong, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:54 PM
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we got degrees in yapanese Someone needs to confer a posthumous one of these on my grandmother, she could gossip perfectly in two languages despite only speaking one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:48 PM
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Good for them, buuuuuut not ever me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:00 PM
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Yeah, no, single dads don't get to foist their offspring on childfree women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 04:48 PM
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Ultimately it comes down to this: the Courts aren't inherently misandrist. There are elements that are biased, but those biases are not insurmountable. When dads ask for what they feel is their due, judges by and large operate under the assumption that it is in the best interest of the child for both parents to have sufficient parenting time with the child. I've never met a judge who is happy when Dad only has every other weekend, but if that's all he's willing to ask for, and he's stipulating t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:39 PM
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Yeah, you totally don't think that about other single mums at all. Just the single mums who got duped by lying assholes -- I mean, "picked wrong".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:34 AM
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I've seen my fair share of non-Latine women who have bounced back wonderfully. Sometimes breastfeeding will take all the baby weight right off, and she'll be really active looking after the kiddo (or kiddo will be one of those that needs constant movement, omfg).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:32 AM
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Just flat out say it then? I mean... that's a weird-ass way to put it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:30 AM
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honestly, valid
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:28 AM
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You’re getting her after she got fat and had a kid or two and she’s not the hot girl she was in the bikini and feels too lazy to go back to that. I just have to say that this is not always the case. I have met some serious smokeshows who happened to be single mums -- you'd have no idea they had ever reproduced if you saw them. Imagine my own disappointment, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:22 AM
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Men never die or anything
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:12 AM
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Who are single dads dating then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:10 AM
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Let me save you the trouble: it has been. So you can delete this post now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:26 PM
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Well, don't complain if you're not a woman's cup of tea, either. Also, I do find it weird that you expect someone to have done sports as a kid. Definitely not my experience growing up. Some kids did sports, some kids did other things. I'm wondering if this criterion is standing in for a quality you think people who did sports as a kid now have as adults? Ability to be a team player, maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:09 PM
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I went on a date with a single dad once and when he mentioned how his kids had soaked him for an expensive night out, and he really would have been happier doing it on a budget, I realised he was not a dad so much as a slave. Like... your kids are spoiled and I won't ever be able to tell them that. Sounds like a hard no to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:57 PM
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I mean, that's why I don't date single parents either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:54 PM
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...hey, does that actually work? Asking for my elderly parents. Otherwise we have to start hiding our assets, like, now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:52 PM
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Some women don't know a good thing when it's finally handed to them on a silver platter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:35 PM
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I agree, tbh. Better for everyone just to be forthright.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:12 PM
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This guy has an awfully specific list of standards. If his ideal woman isn't him with a vagina, maybe he's being a bit picky. "Did sports as a kid"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:10 PM
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Sure, Jan.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:06 PM
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It's not as simple as "just get a babysitter". Unless you're a parent, or work with them regularly, maybe don't make light of what working parents deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:49 PM
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Some of the judges, yes. But fewer and fewer compared to the bad old days.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:35 PM
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I hope that is true. What's out there online... definitely doesn't support that, but then again how many trad dads are online?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:48 PM
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Ultimately it comes down to this: the Courts aren't inherently misandrist. There are elements that are biased, but those biases are not insurmountable. When dads ask for what they feel is their due, judges by and large operate under the assumption that it is in the best interest of the child for both parents to have sufficient parenting time with the child. I've never met a judge who is happy when Dad only has every other weekend, but if that's all he's willing to ask for, and he's stipulating t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:34 PM
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Do you know what childcare costs?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:25 PM
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If my hypothetical husband woke me at 7:30 to tell me there was an estate sale forty-five minutes away and we weren't doing anything today, he might find himself minus a testicle, so I applaud your forbearance
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:22 PM
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Hey, your husband would watch the kids, you sure he's trad? ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:21 PM
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Oh. So... I say I've heard plenty of women's experiences about men turning out to be rotten fathers, and you pipe up and say they should vet better, but you don't actually know how they should do that. Just that they should somehow... develop a second sense for who a man will be after she gives birth? Bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:15 PM
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How would you vet for a man that would make a good father?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:09 PM
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By their reports, men are very good at hiding exactly how much parenting they're willing to do until baby gets there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 02:59 PM
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The thing is I'm neither looking nor not-looking. A partner would be nice to have, but the stress of actively trying to find one knocks me so off-kilter that I can't function. I never learned to have fun with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 02:56 PM
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But if you’re single in your late 30s and beyond there’s probably something wrong with you anyway There used to be, but I spent time single trying to correct for that... and now I have so full a life that it's genuinely a minus to go for OLD. So nice try, but no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 02:44 PM
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In my experience it depends on the judge -- and what Dad is willing to ask for. If he fights, at least in my judicial district, he's liable to get somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 02:38 PM
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Even inside Family Court, I promise you there's not. [edited] Okay, downvoters, how many of you actually work closely with the courts on this stuff? Because I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 02:31 PM
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I have no reason to exaggerate my attractiveness. And if he's settling and I never find out: what the eye doesn't see, the heart can't grieve. If people settle, the partner who is settled for must still be treated as someone who is 100% the desired option. If you can't do that, don't date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 02:08 PM
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You're right. I weigh 300 pounds, my teeth jut out from my face like tusks, and there are six fingers on my right hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:19 AM
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You do understand that women can be sexual on our own terms, right? Because it sounded like you were trying to shame me for that. And I expect, frankly, better of women who label themselves blue pill. Would I like a relationship? Yeah, if I can find one that doesn't disturb my peace. Am I selective in that respect? Yes. Does it make me lesser if sometimes I don't go for a relationship and scratch an itch? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:23 AM
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In my experience working with single mom clients, they have long since given up on Dad stepping up as a parent. They think the least he can do is pay some of the costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:39 AM
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Your mental age is 26–30 years old. You’re mature yet still embrace fun and flexibility. I'm 39.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:30 AM
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Aw, but your mom sounds awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:26 AM
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Seduction begins in the mind for me. Don't like it, don't hit me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:25 AM
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Oh, my bad, I don't live in a Jane Austen novel
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:22 AM
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Great, that tells me who to avoid!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:24 PM
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I know, right? [bangs cup against cubicle] I WAS PROMISED SIX FIGURES
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:51 PM
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I try. They can choose to listen or they can suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:51 PM
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Yes! In a nutshell!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:41 PM
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So, the wildest thing I've been facing is the notion that LTRs are very much optional after sex, and that I'm not less of a woman, despite what the red pill dictates, if I choose not to be in a relationship with the man who made my bits happy for the moment. Does it follow that men probably benefit from a culture that shames a woman for not giving him a relationship after sex? Are they genuinely OK with being pumped and dumped the way so many of them claim they're willing to do to us?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:40 PM
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at what point do you have to start thinking independently, especially when doing what you're told isn't getting you the results you want? The point at which you realise that what you're told is bullshit. I was raised by parents who protected me from a lot of the social currency things -- my worth was in my whole self, not my looks. So I went into adulthood immune to the urge to go partying in next to nothing, or spend that kind of cash on one night's worth of hair. I also never understood a man'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:36 PM
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From recent experience, hormonal fluctuations that hijack our brains. :D It was what I wanted and needed in that moment, yes. And I don't regret it. Most of the time, I can only think of two men that I would bother with if they propositioned me. They're the last two most men would consider. They are both intellectuals with worldviews that indicate we share values enough not for me to be ashamed of the sex I had (incidentally, this was the case with Mr. Right Now Please as well). They are unattai…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:27 PM
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If attractive women dated their looksmatch, even half of Hollywood would be out in the cold. You overrate men's attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:18 PM
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Oh, God love you, you think the beauty standard really should be the retouched whores you see on Instagram. There's no help for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:17 PM
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Ohhhh. So you actually don't know jack about women like me. Got it. Maybe try not spouting off like you do, then. "Worth the meal." Jesus fuck, that's guarantee to dry even the ugliest woman's panties right up. What are you saying any of this in public for?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:15 PM
1

Honestly, I've interacted with him and he really is describing a milieu of women who only want to date in very traditional ways -- he doesn't know anyone who's into egalitarian dating. The way he described his community checks out with things I've heard from women in similar communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:11 PM
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Listen up, Dusty: I'm not "easy to access" because I'd rather pull my weight from the word go. I'm pragmatic and I want to show that I'm not some spoiled-ass pickme or tradwife material. I want my partner to know I'm there because I like them, not because I'm looking for a free ride. You're enabling a LOT of bad behavior in "pretty" women and you'll pay for it down the road in the form of bankrolling their expensive routines. Hope you enjoy watching your paycheck disappear into the coffers of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:07 PM
7

The most feminist goddamn thing on this thread. Perplexed that a "blue pill man" is yammering at you about the attractiveness of women who go Dutch. He sounds RP as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:05 PM
4

Wait, what? I meet people who are basically strangers for dates. You're not not a stranger just because we've had a few text conversations. I don't want to faff around with this whole "we're not on a date, we're on a pre-date!" thing, it feels quite high school to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:03 PM
1

I'd rather it were discussed that we're each paying our own way. I don't find it particularly romantic when someone else pays -- it just cuts down on the awkwardness of "uh, so, what am I doing at the cash register?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:01 PM
5

...why are you correlating "woman is fine with paying her half of the bill" with "woman is ugly as sin"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:58 PM
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Getting laid might not get you a relationship, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:56 PM
1

Wait until they find out that some of us are educated and still working-class
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:53 PM
2

Suicidality doesn't express itself the same way in women as it does in men. We're less likely to choose the big splashy and surefire ways to go -- my method of choice was anorexia, which saved me in the end because it gave me time to find a way out of the environment that was literally killing me. What disturbs me is that you would like to play Oppression Olympics about people being suicidal. That's particularly heartless and honestly, if that's what the red pill teaches you to think, the red pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:30 PM
2

being a woman means that nobody will ever mete out the type of social punishment that a man could expect to get if they engage socially in a way that is on any level perceived as weird. I nearly offed myself in high school because of the social punishment. Last I checked, I was female.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:11 PM
1

From what I've seen, OP is definitely not talking about reasonable humans, and in my admittedly limited experience of you, you are one. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:02 PM
4

Not the people I'm spending time with, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:59 PM
2

Point well made.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:49 PM
4

I have eyes and I can see what happens online?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:49 PM
1

You can say this shit with a straight face because you didn't get stuck with him. You have nice, sensible Mark Carney at your government's head now, and your mother isn't telling her hairdresser that it feels an awful lot like Germany in 1933. Which her damn parents lived through. So you can maybe take a seat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:45 PM
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I can only speak for myself, but I can't put a number on a hot person because everyone is just too different. I can put a number on me, based on what I've seen men describe the numbers as, and even then I wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:40 PM
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I love that you have been able to find happiness in your own way. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:29 PM
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[high-five] Good for you, and great for your parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:22 PM
6

To men. Not to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:19 PM
1

TERFs just engineered some serious anti-trans legislation in the UK, but sure, they don't deserve the vitriol. Trans people aren't people or anything. Fuck right off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:15 PM
6

Some things aren't quantifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:11 PM
4

Why are you making baseless assumptions about my mother? She started an anxiety med after she retired, it's basically an antihistamine with anxiolytic properties. I'm on the real meds, but guess what? My father passed his fucked-up brain chemistry down. Since I began my job (during COVID no less), my psychiatrist and my therapist both remarked on the immediate positive effects. The icing on your shit cake of a comment? I work 35 hours a week and get something like five weeks a year off, paid, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:20 AM
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Truth. Some of us are demisexual and need friendship first. As long as y'all don't go psychotic on us if we don't reciprocate, friendship with an eye to dating us is actually not the sin some people make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:15 AM
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Yeah, I'd like to know that myself. Wave at me if you see me in the park, come over, bring your dog, hit on me. Or I'll just see your dog and go over to you, whatever. The park is a great third space.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:14 AM
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Probably down, because the pampered housewives' children saw how fucking miserable their mothers were and established themselves rather than rely on a man. Your little meme about the amount of work even housewives did? Vastly underestimates what women actually did in a day. So... schlep and get paid money, or be a bangmaid nanny? No contest for most sane women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:13 AM
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...you do realise that women below middle-class have always worked? My family is market-gardeners as far back as we can count, and lo, my grandmother (and all of her sisters) contributed. The difference between the generations is that I'm paid. My family were never going to be pampered housewives. You're mistaking the US in the 1950s for all of history again. Stop that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:07 AM
3

My work actually does make me happy. I do something I love and I work with people I care very much about -- and everyone from the CEO on down actually does care about me (yay small nonprofit life!). I was never duped into thinking this was a possibility. Voices decrying "job satisfaction" were the loudest in my sphere, and I watched both my parents being miserable at work for many years, so I thought employment would suck, but to my surprise, finding the right career was indeed fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:03 AM
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Given that this one refers to women as FEEEEEEMALES, you're probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:00 AM
9

Hell, I grew up hearing "Don't shit where you eat"!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:22 PM
1

OP is right. Sometimes they don't even know a woman is available to be pursued -- after all, women will now slap a "SEXUAL ASSAULT" sticker on something as innocuous as being kissed without first doing the entire consent dance. Hitting on us in the wild is a dangerous pursuit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:05 PM
5

So far so encouraging! What qualities drew you to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:57 AM
8

So, colour me curious: what kind of woman was/is your wife? Before marriage, after?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:50 AM
4

okay, now I'm disturbed
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:31 AM
4

... /s?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:22 AM
2

A lot of women's dating strategies piss me off, and I'm a woman. :D I personally cannot put up with that bullshit from friends -- like, if you want to make your personality all about getting a ring, you do you, but you just became so boring to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:24 AM
5

Bruh, I am a cat lady and I am way cooler than the women who complain that they're not maaaaaaarried. I call them pickmes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:20 AM
1

Have them learn how to be divorce mediators. That will cure them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:19 AM
3

That's a HUGE one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:49 PM
4

Username checks out, and I think your marriage is goals. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:48 PM
2

I'm saying even that varies, and again, it might be gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:46 PM
1

Oh. Well, please don't condescend to sleep with me (a solid 6) -- I'd rather be wanted for what I am, and if that's not happening very often, then I'm fine. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:45 PM
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There are some very good parents of autistic kids out there. They are the people who believe that our needs should be addressed, not our whims. Example: taste and texture issues mean that food is hard, so... easy foods are found that everyone in the family likes. Sensory difficulties mean that maybe you use different lightbulbs and invest in quality fabric goods (clothes, bedding, etc.) This is what you would do to mitigate the parts of autism that can be disabling. But those same good parents l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:44 PM
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Mmm, I wouldn't put it that way necessarily. Some of us -- and maybe it is a gender thing -- are actually really good with people when it comes to relating as pure humans, but it's the social rules that fuck us up. Like... I work in a field that depends on my ability to be super empathic. And I am. To the point where if my clients are having a good time, it lifts my mood. They like me because I have a way of getting on their wavelength that neurotypical people struggle to do -- because it isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:32 PM
1

Love looks like having each other's backs, making sure the one I love comes first in my life, having more than sex in common. I’ve also found that love makes me want to be with that person 24/7 in every possible way it can range from wanting to have sex or just wanting to smell them and be close by and this, big time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:26 PM
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Sorry, trigger point. So many autism moms in this world want to spin it as "oh, my poor broken child" and I'm like "I cannot imagine myself being any other way, what the fuck"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:18 PM
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fuck the eugenicists here, we are not disabled
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:30 PM
4

Bro, for what it's worth, you need to be able to live your life, so whatever will make it suck less? You do that. I'm sorry you're so lonely. As an autistic woman, I've found a lot of my online friendships really fulfilling and able to drive off some of the loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:29 PM
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We were improving our own lives so our lives would stop sucking. Men are perceiving equality as denigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:52 PM
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What are you trying to say? Comment literally not coherent enough to make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:49 PM
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They shouldn't. They should work on constructive ways to improve it that actually uplift everyone involved, men included. But you really don't seem to want to uplift anyone but men. Am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:43 PM
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I don't think there are "gender quotas", actually, that's a right-wing talking point. DEIB doesn't work that way. Anti-discrimination laws don't mean making things unfair, they actually and truly mean "you can't deny her a job because she's a woman or he's Black". And TANF is for anyone. The only programme you wouldn't be able to use, as a man, is WIC. Which is for pregnant women and their children. Since you'll never have to bear the burden of pregnancy, congratulations, you'll never need WIC. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:42 PM
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We do not get help from the government, even when liberals are in charge, oh my fucking God the delusion here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:53 PM
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I love how becoming what we want is somehow the worse of the two options here. Like... we ask you to step up and you say "Nah, we just want to subjugate you."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:52 PM
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Women aren't worse. We're just no longer at your mercy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:49 PM
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Oh, wow. Okay, so yes, 100% agreed with what you said. Neither gender should settle for less than what they're enthusiastic to have. If that means a lot more singleness, then it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:47 PM
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And they're flat wrong, sorry to say. If you offer nothing exceptional, expect to get what you put into the world. Aim to be better and you'll attract better -- ladies!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:46 PM
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I'm with Mongo: you're on the side of the angels! Keep building everything up so everyone benefits You do your bit and I'll do mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:41 PM
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No, but we still have other important jobs. Mine is "making sure men have a voice in their own custodial orders and aren't just getting taken to the cleaners". Granted, I make sure everyone's voice is equal, but still. You, general you, benefit in this very specific way that many of you moan about on this sub! You all want to be parents, you want to have equal time, I hold sessions that help you get the time you ask for! Job totally not important.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:46 PM
1

I think you might be right -- I realized that I very quickly became not a lot of people's type when I ruled out having kids. Otherwise I'm dead average: short with brown hair and blue eyes, four-year degree, on $40K/year, non-drinker and non-smoker. Not obese, not married.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:56 PM
2

Yes. 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:30 AM
9

Gladly. "Have you tried actually asking for what you want in bed?" is a criminally underutilised sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:03 AM
0

I'm actually less picky about women (2%) than I am about men! Education is the big limiting factor: I trust women to have paid more attention in high school, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:56 AM
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.72% -- and then I looked at all of your percentages and felt generous [edited to add] Apparently the type of woman I am is .0016% though? That can't be right, I'm common as muck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:50 AM
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I will happily give directions if they're not finding the clit. "No, no... YOUR left" et al.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:41 AM
1

We want you around, we just aren't interested in fucking you and in many of our experiences, that becomes a big problem -- because you tend to make it that way. I am fine being friends with men I don't find attractive. You know who always tried to make me feel bad about it? Men I didn't find attractive who wanted more from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:37 AM
5

It's healthy when you realize that if you don't set X boundary, you will only be using the relationship to self-harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:17 AM
1

So, turnabout being fair play, if women complain about something that affects us in dating, you should have no issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:50 PM
1

So, some women = most women = women? Because it affects single men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:42 PM
1

I can't compete with the stories you make up about women in your head, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:27 PM
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Support for our rights shouldn't be conditional on whether we'll fuck you. Radical notion, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:05 PM
0

We gave up on that years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:50 PM
4

Size doesn't matter until my partner is small. Then I sigh with relief because that's a size I can actually fit inside me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:31 PM
1

I am a Frail Elder who will catch triple pneumonia if I do not burrow into all the covers at once!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:17 AM
5

I'm not convinced you're wrong about anything except the doorknobs. I am a total eiderdown hog.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:08 AM
3

Right. I'm going to magically start wishing I'd had a baby... eventually. When? Since you apparently know me better than I know myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:29 PM
3

Depends on the man. Some men fuck in eyeliner, and then there's JD Vance. Poor unfortunate soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:26 PM
6

Okay, apparently I never felt better going out back to whack weeds with a sword, because I'm female. Ditto practicing my combat skills on a tree when I was frustrated and needed to get really physical. Women don't do that, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:24 PM
5

Thinking human beings control their "functions". Evolution may have designed my body for birth but it also designed my mind to be allowed to opt the fuck out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:13 PM
0

Truer words, omfg
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:36 PM
2

The only way to do 50SOG is the MST3K way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:17 PM
7

Fifty Shades? Really? I'd call the police on Christian Goddamn Gray.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:21 PM
1

So I assume your hypothetical fat-shaming man either took his fair share of responsibility for the kids or is willing to pay enough in child support to make things equitable? Because moms get stuck like that. Also, now she's a single mom, which is way harder dating-wise than a single dad. Single dads, it's like "oh, how cute, he still loves his kids" but with single moms, it's like "omg baggage, she's ran-through, I want my OWN kids". So why should she risk having his children?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:19 PM
1

If he divorces her because of it? She has to just get over that, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:10 PM
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If he thinks fat women are gross, though, and she's had his kids and can't recover... shit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:01 PM
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If you think the law is telling the entire story of what's going on in a war-torn country, you need to not be analysing their social dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:10 PM
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Unless you're Ukrainian, sit down and pipe down. I paid attention to what was going on when war broke out. Women with children were taking the children and going. Women who didn't have children? Many stayed to fight. Kalush Orchestra's video for "Stefania" demonstrates that women are indeed fellow soldiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:35 PM
4

that's just gross
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:16 PM
3

She's not affected yet. Thin, like able-bodied, is a thing you can stop being. God forbid she has his kids and her body doesn't bounce back.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:15 PM
2

At least you're consistent!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:14 PM
2

Hey, can we not with the classism? If you get to call people "poors" then I should be able to say "eat the rich" with no consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:13 PM
2

The hard truth is true equality includes things like splitting the bill for dates or holidays. Men taking more passive roles in relationships. Women financially taking on more roles as the provider that men used to take up. Societal equivalents would be women leading the military and being included in drafts or taking on more trade roles in the workforce such as plumbers or electricians. These are some of the considered 'negatives' along with the 'benefits' of more liberal or non-traditional-min…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:10 PM
1

50/50 submit to his wife explain how this works
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:00 PM
2

I bloody well don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:57 PM
2

I learned that a protest vote is as good as staying home, which is about as good as voting for the opposition. You evidently did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:55 PM
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did you learn NOTHING from the damn US elections
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:24 AM
18

Being titillated by wlw does kind of devalue those relationships, though? I say this as a bi woman -- it's certainly not empowering to consider that the fact of me having sex with a woman would be what gets my male lover off. If you don't want another penis in the bed, good for you, but the porn fantasy is sickmaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:23 AM
4

...that makes too much sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:16 AM
4

wait whaaaaat now I gotta see this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:48 AM
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[shit-eating grin] We do more than talk -- and I'm pleased to say that tough conversation went very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:13 AM
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