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/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:27 PM
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Most polling finds the average woman dislikes the average man far more than he dislikes them. Way more men have positive opinions on women than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:10 AM
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And that negative attitude towards men doesn't become real life hostile behavior, either?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:07 AM
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This 'negative attitude' isn't hate. It's disappointment Maybe for you, personally. But go on social media pretty much anywhere. A lot of people proudly call themselves misandrists, and it's been exceedingly normalized with a lot of horrid attitudes and dispositions towards men in pop culture, society, and media. It's hard to just say it's disappointment at this point, because that implies a desire for improvement or trust to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:06 AM
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That would really hold more credibility if you didn't have the Western Left dancing around the issue entirely and being unable to criticize if not just outright enabling everything about the worst aspects of Islamic views. At best you get it if it's a way to weaponize it against the Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:04 AM
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That’s incredibly dishonest and you know it. Legitimate question: would you rather live anywhere in the West? Or Afghanistan or Iran? Because if you genuinely see no difference in the disposition of the men from those societies, you’re hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:44 AM
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I genuinely can’t tell if you’re saying men or women did, because I think you’re meaning the latter but your wording is saying the former. Both are true, but eh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:43 AM
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Is that why you do, despite most of your comments being inflammatory snarks?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:42 AM
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You typed that all and answered your own question. Why was that politically costly when it pertained to a group without suffrage? Because there were men who wanted women to vote. The only people who voted were the only ones who were allowed to vote. <image> Men voted for women to vote. A majority of men felt women should be able to vote. That doesn’t mean you should be eternally grateful for people who are dead, but that men actively voted to make it happen. You could be from Afghanistan where y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:41 AM
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... Yeah, you're definitely an abuser. That's an insane reach from someone disagreeing with you on the internet. You remind me of a guy I met in a gaming club Okay? I'm not any of those things, but sure. Not even remotely obese or have hygiene issues. So far your argument is that I'm fat and smelly. Which if you're honestly 40+ old is an incredibly embarrassing level of Ad Hominem, because small children argue like that. But go on. Well, I'm autistic as Hell, and when he tried to talk to me, I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:45 PM
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Who voted and granted for those rights? Legitimately, who? Men who sympathized or agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:34 PM
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Oh, please. Don't insult my intelligence. While you give condescending insults to mine. Men know they are abusers and then cry when they get the teeniest pushback. Massive overgeneralization and you know it, but I doubt you know anything about healthy views on others or interpersonal relationships. Also, like the tiny bit of pushback I gave then you wrote two paragraphs over it? It starts in gradeschool when they pull a girl's hair hard enough to hurt and get slapped in response, and wail to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:26 AM
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Considering you have half the comments denying there is widespread misandry, then the other outright boasting about it and saying it’s “our turn,” yeah. Abusers often view themselves as the victim. Not sure in the way you intended it, but definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:07 AM
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Yeah, screw men for wanting to give women equal rights. That’s why we need to double down harder until these egalitarian societies completely crumble, and far more repressive ones replace them. That’ll definitely show ‘em.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:05 AM
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It’s okay, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:10 AM
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And you're gonna face whatever consequences come from that payback anyway. What things has he done to merit "payback"? End of the day it's best to choose what will make the world better Like not hating half of humanity for their sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:03 AM
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After centuries of women being demeaned we have a handful of women making boundaries clear aggressively I fail to see how saying men under 6'1 aren't real men as "making boundaries clear aggressively." Or making videos shaming men for walking past them in a gym. Or calling regular guys "chopped" or "medium ugly," then complaining about wasting time on "ugly men." That's not making boundaries clear, that's vapid, uncontrolled narcissism being fed by a bunch of screaming, delusional people. And yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:01 AM
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I get it, but go on social media. Anywhere, really. Hating on men or giving brutally shallow opinions or denigration of men is openly celebrated. If you call it out, you get accused of misogyny. And this includes things like shaming men for being average or short in height, not having gym bodies, or not competing with their “book boyfriends.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:15 AM
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Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:06 AM
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Then that’s fair, because a lot of people who claim to be RP are more NPD pilled than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:46 PM
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I think that’s fair, even if there’s valid points in the main post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:44 PM
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I do. Though truthfully, my offline hobbies aren’t very popular with women or easy to meet women with. The music concerts and shows I go to aren’t huge with women. The club dance event tend to have way more men than women, but are just hard to meet people at. The DND stuff that I do, if women show up they’re in large groups or keep exclusively to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:31 AM
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That seems to be the obvious solution, but I don’t drink. And dating my coworkers isn’t an attractive prospect. Even meeting people in person has led to similar experiences of being played with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:09 AM
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Dude, most guys would just want a relationship. At this point, I've been fucked around and led on so many times that I'm kind of just frustrated. Feel like I'm endlessly giving for people who don't value me. And I'm getting matched with people who demand I take them to Michellin star restaurants for a first date, then get upset when I give pushback on a 1-2 hour commute.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:11 AM
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my personality is the same. So you were a tool back then, as well? That’s not me trying to be snarky, that’s how you described yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:09 AM
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I was. I am typing from my phone, but I was referring to Pew as well as other, similar charts. I am struggling to use this tool on my phone from the link presented.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:59 AM
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Those numbers don’t lineup with how many men identify as single, though. So unless that figure has also changed or there’s a lot of open relationships, people cheating, or women who think they’re in a relationship when the partner doesn’t view it as that, then it doesn’t add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:28 AM
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Are those numbers consistent with current generation?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:48 AM
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Deeper into a relationship? It comes up. While early stages of dating? No. Though it came up pretty early on in my first relationship because I was honest about it, my ex asked about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:55 AM
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Things are tougher, but I think a lot of people would rather be miserable than try to find something. Especially if they’re posting on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:55 AM
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Redditors just downvote if they don't like something. It's random, it's arbitrary. But it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:53 AM
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I think with the priority on hook ups first and foremost, even before you know if you're genuinely compatible, this is a consequence of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:08 AM
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The unfortunate reality is that men caring more about looks than personality when dating actually works out in women's favour. If men were to focus mainly on personality and character they would realise how basic and self centered a lot of women are, which would lead to women having less options. I think there's truth to that to an extent. But a lot of it really amounts to sex is hard to acquire as a man. There is scarcity. So men with lots of options accept bad options till they find something …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:08 AM
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I think another part of it is that these communities ban women who dissent. Dissenters are banned and social media greatly favors whiners. I think there's varying degrees of truth to what you said, but especially on reddit of all places, it's going to aggressively skew towards those types.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:50 AM
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I don't want to just criticize you, but if you have never had a boyfriend and your relationships never amount to anything serious, yet the people claim to want something serious, this likely means a few things: you are not being discerning in who you share your body and intimacy with. It's not 100% foolproof guarantee, but if you have intimacy before a commitment is made, you have to accept the possibility that there might not be a future. It might not be what you want it be and you have to acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:03 PM
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Those guys exist, but they either have no options. Or they have a ton of options and can be overly discerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:13 AM
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I think most guys try not to ask. They’d rather not know, and a lot of men presume most girls sleep around to an absurd degree. A former coworker of mine who was married at 26 straight up told me “whatever number she tells you, multiply it by 5.” My first relationship was with someone who invited every male friend from high school to have sex with her. Only one of them declined. It’s fundamentally easier for the vast majority of women to be a hoe than it is for men to be hoes. And the girls my f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:13 AM
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That’s a very fair opinion to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:38 PM
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Part of the problem with modern relationships is that you have average people feeling like they’re settling when they picked someone else who’s average. But that average person likely has their heart tied to someone who used them for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:13 AM
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Maybe I'm too bitter with my own life experiences. I've seen too many things from friends and family. Had too many abusive stepfathers with known criminal records and drug problems that my mom ignored, especially after every male in her life raised concerns. Or watching friends date guys who were definitively abusive and every male friend in their lives telling them not to date, then cutting off all their male friends because the abusive boyfriend they said they hated won't let them keep in touc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 01:22 AM
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Personal: low self esteem, low signaling, emotionally unavailable, depressed, Thankfully, those are all things that can be worked on. The fact you can recognize it in yourself is a good first step. A relationship isn't a guarantee of saving your self worth and image. But the first steps are working on you, working on bettering those qualities you feel are deficient. I’m older now so for me it’s a wrap (for others I know that’s not true so I only speak for myself here) I mean, that depends on you…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:48 AM
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I don't think she punished me for it, neither did I phrase it like that. I should have probably given an example of someone I know for genuinely being punished for honesty. Though it was an extreme examples of a good relationship that lasted for months ending seemingly within 1-2 days, which probably if I hadn't brought it up, we'd still be together since she admitted it was due to fear. But considering I haven't been in an actual relationship in 3 years since, even after putting myself out ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:45 AM
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This is a notable example in my life, but I was very upfront that I wanted to have kids someday. My ex was incredibly terrified of the concept of childbirth, as well as the fear she would be a bad mother. So she ended the relationship and every woman in my life told me that I shouldn’t have been upfront about it, that she would’ve changed her mind. And that I should’ve accepted her suggestion we do FWB because she would’ve likely changed her mind, but I wanted her to move on. What various people…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:55 AM
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Because if this person was a man, 110% they’d be getting tarred and feathered with the incel label. Being picky is fine and all, being delusional and completely lacking self-awareness is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:02 PM
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Because in-group preferences and tribalism are one hell of a drug, and people would rather argue than admit that if this person was a man, they’d be quick to call them an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:00 PM
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The vibe I got was that you were opposed to coffee or lower risk activities. If you’re not, then my apologies. First date, coffee is totally fine. That should be the great filter. If you guys make it past that, then start considering dinner or other higher investment dates. My ex and I had lunch, it was a teahouse that served food. I wasn’t able to pay for the first date, due to the weird menu thing being done on our phones. But I definitely paid for sushi and desserts on the second, plus the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:21 AM
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All the more reason to do activities that focus on getting to know each other, as opposed to lovebombing someone with expensive gifts or dates when you don’t even know each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:22 PM
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I think for some people, I might’ve. But most people in online forums aren’t going to change their worldview after one conversation. You’re lucky if they’re respectful to you within it. A lot of people come here for PVP, to entertain themselves and argue. Especially when most of these conversations amount to personal and anecdotal experiences, everyone has a different perspective on reality that violently clashes with someone else’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:43 AM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:31 PM
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Being penetrated by someone I was attracted to, a woman, would not be the same thing as being penetrated by another man. Most lesbians would agree with that, as would most straight or bi men. Men here think letting anyone penetrate you is / can be pleasurable no matter what. And really being penetrated is so much more vulnerable than being the penetrator. While there's certainly some people that might be hyperbolic and say that everyman is fundamentally interchangeable, I don't think most men he…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 12:51 AM
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So you have on good authority that every single one of those users that reached out was a creepy weirdo? Every single one? That none of them were good people or respectful? Or that the act of reaching out at all was creepy and weird?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:53 AM
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If I make you imagine you’re a woman you’ll think you can imagine it but you can’t - so I will give you a one for one. And what makes you think you can imagine that? Would you rather be pegged by a man as a man, Or be a virgin? I'm heterosexual and have never been into anal sex or stimulation in my life. So likely the latter. Relevant question to the conversation. Why is that a relevant question? Because if the insinuation is that inherently having the option does not mean you would find it plea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:50 AM
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I know guys who have stayed in bad relationships because they genuinely loved that person. I also know a lot of men who have stayed, but decided the relationship was never going to progress beyond a certain point explicitly because of who she was as a person. The sad reality is that rejection for women is often backloaded. Because of scarcity, men will often stay in a bad arrangement where their heart left awhile ago because it satisfies some of their emotional or sexual needs. It sucks, but som…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:31 AM
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Do you mean as a man having sex with another man? Or do you mean as a heterosexual woman with a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:28 AM
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It does give them options, but the reality is that unattractive people don't want to be with other unattractive people. And if you can hook up with a guy you do find attractive, but can't get him too commit, a lot of people start resenting the options that will for them. It sucks, hookup culture has made hypergamy at the forefront of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:27 AM
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I'm sorry... that sounds horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:24 AM
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Probably for the same reason r/ForeverAloneWomen had to go private. The users were getting a ton of messages from men offering to date them. Maybe it's not exactly a blast having casual, meaningless sex with men who only want to masturbate using your body, but never stay with you long-term. But a lot of people are supposedly happy with the status quo, which is why some people scream about single women being happier or living longer or not needing men as some victory against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:24 AM
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You’re not wrong. The type of men that often engage in casual sex often look down on the women for engaging in it. At the same time, most guys really don’t want to learn their girlfriend threw out her standards like character to sleep with the biggest, sleaziest douchebag around in a hookup. But had so little confidence in him that their intimacy was months to years down the line. Because to some degree, it is saying she was more attracted to that guy than him, if she was willing to take such ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:00 AM
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There are a lot more people like this woman than there are Jeffrey Dahlmers in the world. And many of them have predictable causes and effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 10:09 AM
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And - ahum - its incredibly convenient that visiting the local prostitute or fucking a slave didn't mess up the man's pair bonding. Kind of does to varying degrees and leads to unstable and unhealthy societies long-term. The ones closer to truer monogamy usually stay more stable or productive. It is less damaging for male psychology, but it's also not good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 10:07 AM
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So never ever take any chances?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:56 AM
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I mean that's normal social skills of non verbal communication? Seems like most men are picking up on it just fine. Yes, that's absolutely why women almost never approach or make the first move. Or ask a guy out in rare circumstances. Or why so many women stigmatize a man making that approach at all except if it's online or on a dating app. If you listened to those same people, you'd think there is absolutely no set of circumstances where you can publicly or privately approach a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:55 AM
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I’d agree if someone has unreasonably high standards. But if a guy posts that same exact thing you said, but inverted, the responses light up with people accusing you of encouraging women to date men they are not attracted to. You should be attracted to your partner. But you also shouldn’t be shallow as your primary attraction, as well as being realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:05 AM
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I didn’t say people leaving the apps, I said getting fatigued. That article was also from two years ago. Something more up to date, but if these things were working as intended, their stock and profits wouldn’t be plummeting. https://finshots.in/archive/why-are-dating-apps-struggling-tinder-bumble-okcupid-hinge-plentyoffish-match-grindr/#:~:text=Match%20Group%2C%20the%20company%20behind,stock%20prices%20only%20dropped%20further.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:53 PM
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People are getting fatigued because they fundamentally don’t work for most people. Knowing people who it worked feels like survivorship bias, when most people it clearly doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:36 PM
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Comment was mainly a shitpost, I could delete it and replace it with a more substantive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:43 AM
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They’re also formats that encourage repeated engagement. The people who are most likely to repeat that drivel are usually the ones who are terminally online. But I think the wider problem is how terminally online everyone has become.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 07:25 PM
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The first experience I did have I left the girl screaming out the top floor apartment window because I did know what I was doing, but you cant get to an intimate relationship with it known as women base your worth to pursue on it. You mean it went really good for your first time?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:09 AM
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The way most of these apps work is where they deliberately show you people you’re not interested in to help incentivize people into paying, to make it easier to find someone. Pretty much a huge reason why most of them just suck, especially the ones owned by Match group.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:10 PM
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I don’t even know why the apps show me to these men since I have a strict age group I want. Probably to get you to pay for the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:09 AM
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But what’s the fix to women not dating men they are not attracted to? I can't really say what because I don't know what you personally are attracted to. If it's stereotypically masculine things, then that can be expressed in a healthy and unhealthy way. If you are picking charismatic, socially capable people with the most initial attraction possible, then you have to be prepared for things when your blinders wear off. The best fix is to ask yourself what you are attracted to. And compare that to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 02:33 AM
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I think that's a fair opinion, but I think with your later comment: What you do in the bedroom is completely separate from your social and political beliefs. I think this usually leads to women picking toxic men who are antithetical to their values and beliefs, while belittling the men who adhere closer to their values and principles for being unsexy by comparison. I've seen it, those people often go onto painting huge swathes of an entire gender while ignoring a ton of good people because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:07 AM
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Male romantic literature is often tacked onto other things, and it can vary from the dude being someone very important or incredibly capable, or just a regular guy who everyone decides is the hottest shit ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:01 AM
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I think they're right on the physical and psychological harm that happens to the performers for live action content, 110%. Even if I think you're all around correct as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:00 AM
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It's sad that is a controversial statement that would get you called a "pick-me girl."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 01:16 AM
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One thing I appreciate about the younger generation of women is that they are indeed less shallow attraction-wise. I have no doubt about it. Maybe like the late end of Gen Z or early Gen A? People are more shallow than they've ever been.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:44 PM
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They even had the gall to lie and pretend like they find me attractive. I called them out on this and they get mad that I point out their obvious lies. Without knowingly exactly what was said or the tone of it, I can't say. But usually if someone is saying you're attractive, you might be better looking than you think. And I get that being on the spectrum, that makes it a lot harder to work with. I said in another comment, but unless you are exceedingly good looking or attractive, you as a man ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:14 AM
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This is why girls get such late diagnoses. Men and women do not have their brains wired in the same way. And part of it is being better at masking compared to men. And it's a spectrum for a reason. Not every single person on the spectrum is on it to the same degree. I dated a girl on the spectrum briefly and I could tell pretty fast that she was on it on our first actual date. I call bullshit. I'm not neurodivergent, but it looks and sounds like you are dismissing the experiences of other people…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:07 AM
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I usually see obese men with obese women, if it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:59 AM
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I'm not saying this to invalidate your experiences... because I think you're right, a lot of people are not willing to say they are more shallow than they'd care to admit. But if you're a man on the spectrum, even if you're good looking, that translates to weird or creepy. Being socially awkward as a man, unless you are a 9/10 or 10/10 gets you put down as "creepy" most of the time. I am not saying you're wrong. But I am saying that being on the spectrum has the consequence of people finding a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:58 AM
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It has the potential of misleading a person and setting the wrong intentions. There's too many posts you see online of people complaining that a man tried getting to know her, but he actually wanted a romantic or sexual relationship. Some people view it as sneaky, which sometimes it is. There is also the fact that the success rate isn't very good. If someone is attracted to you and wants a relationship, that will usually happen pretty early on. Not unless there is a major roadblock like working …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:19 AM
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My guess is because emotionally and in term of success rate, being friends beforehand usually just doesn't happen often. If a girl wants to be more than friends, then that relationship generally happens pretty early on. If she doesn't, it means becoming emotionally invested into a one-sided romantic pursuit that doesn't go anywhere but pain. It disproportionately doesn't go anywhere. If she was going to have feelings for you, it usually arises towards the beginning. I have a lot of female friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:14 AM
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I think that accounts for part of why polyandry isn't as much of a thing as polygyny is, but it doesn't fully account for monogamy as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:29 AM
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I don't think you see the irony in typing that, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:21 AM
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I don’t see an issue until they start becoming hateful. I think that's the natural conclusion of chasing a fantasy over reality. You ignore what's in front of you to chase something that either doesn't exist, or something that will never be as perfect as you imagine it to be. And then you grow to hate and resent what is there. I've seen it with some people I used to know. My dad once told me that every relationship is built on compromise... and it didn't sound good to me at the time. But I later…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:20 AM
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Probably why the vast majority of guys struggle because they're not trying to be someone they're not. Being themselves gets rejected. The player usually has the lack of morals to not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:17 AM
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Because they now have a choice. For most of Western civilization, a woman's choice was there to varying degrees. It's never been more free than it is today, and the real choice is now to whether you marry for love or because you have to. But to varying degrees, choices were there. There's no such thing when the consequences of choosing badly can be so severe. I'd say there's truth to that, however a lot of people on here have admitted they deliberately pick bad men that are sexy. It's not as if …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:16 AM
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Neither of the sexes need the other. We just find the other to be something highly desired and wanted and enjoyed and can be a fun experience which is good. They are choices made out of want and desire not necessity. Truthfully, everyone needs everyone. Modern society has convinced people that they don't. And part of why things are going belly up at the moment. I do think you're dead-on about the previous parts, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:08 AM
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Usually, most of the guys I've met who've stayed justified it if they had a scarcity mindset. Or just didn't want to leave due to emotional reasons, so they justified staying for physical ones. A few of the guys I know who said this were being cheated on. One of which later talked about marrying her... I think he loved her and was in denial, that he needed to feel like he wasn't attached. That being said, I met a player who quietly quit his relationship. He'd take her on trips, but would only ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:45 PM
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I responded to a person on r/Hinge once who said any downvotes they were getting were proof that the "bar is in hell," when they were claiming they would not date anyone doing a "low-effort" date like going to a park, hike, or a dog walk rather than an expensive dinner on the first date. The people who I met off of dating apps were way more likely to have that "be my dancing monkey" mindset. And most people meet off of dating apps. I think OP sounds way too accusatory and bitter, even if he is k…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:42 AM
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I've met enough men who've told me they've stayed in bad relationships for the sex being a high reason. Or getting access to it. Some people are just desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:37 AM
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If this were the case, why don’t more men just leave after the sex gets routine? It’s more rare for men to be the ones to pull the plug even on bad relationships. It’s almost like maybe they’re benefiting in ways they don’t want to acknowledge. I'd agree with this except maybe that last part. Mostly because I've met enough men who've admitted to me that they've stayed in bad relationships for the sex. Or just because they felt too emotionally invested to walk away. So partly for some of the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:36 AM
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It is a lot better to be in no relationship than to be in a bad relationship with someone who drains you and makes your life worse. I understand what they mean with it being substantially easier for women to find a viable partner, but I overall see the wisdom of just walking away rather than staying for something terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:31 AM
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That doesn't consider other filters, either by men or women. This is assuming they are going for someone without other filters, like their race, religion, politics, or just personal interests. That's assuming everyone in that other 49-60% would actually want to date them. And that's not considering how many more roadblocks there are for a man to even find a partner these days. If you're awkward or shy, that's an even bigger hurdle. And that type of guy is the most likely to be a virgin. Even if …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:22 AM
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I think all of those are probably true, definitely for some. I think the other is just that some people are hypocrites and need to blame someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:48 AM
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From numbers I’m finding online, 40% to 51% of women surveyed wouldn’t date a virgin. Considering that the vast majority of dudes are struggling with dating, most guys don’t have the ready ability to just find a new person readily, that’s highly incentivizing dishonesty or soliciting a prostitute if a guy is one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:45 AM
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Depends on how spaced out those dates are, how much contact is in between, how long the dates are, etc. As well as what happens. If your dates are just 1-2 hours of hanging out once or twice a week, then yeah. If your dates are 3-6 hours of hanging out, with constant messaging or phone calls in-between, then it'd be weird to think you're just 'casual' at that point. is a weird recent internet phenomenon. I think this normalization of spinning plates and having physical intimacy with someone with…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:35 AM
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And why? You're free to have a preference. Maybe if you're 30+, I'd understand it a bit more. But I've seen girls in their teens say that when I was younger, or in their early to mid 20's. All you're doing is filtering at that age group is for successful guys, not necessarily compatible or emotionally available ones or committed ones. My first ex originally liked that I was a virgin, then she later used that to shame me saying nobody else wanted me. I never shamed her for having been with 14 peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:30 AM
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Some women do avoid virgin men because they don’t want to teach a man in bed and teach him how to do relationship emotional and actual work not because they are disgusted by them or something. Seen plenty of comments on here or on other subs that speak directly contrary to that. I've had women outright tell me that they outright avoid virgins. Varies, but my ex originally liked me for being one. Then she later shamed me, saying nobody else wanted me. And insinuated there was something wrong with…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:21 AM
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Would love it more often if someone was just straight forward, honest, and didn't lead me on a wild chase while giving a red light, green light, and a yellow all at the same time. If someone I liked just said, "Hey, I like you," that'd be much appreciated instead of being given a yes that really means no, then lies and excuses. Or saying you're interested or you love them, then finding any and every excuse to not see them. I think most men if they're genuinely into you, they're going to want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:10 AM
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He said bad women, I don't think he's disagreeing with the shallow part.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:05 AM
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I've gotten really nasty comments from women posting on here before, as well as other dating subs. But definitely lately, I've seen a lot more genuinely hateful or bitter posts about women that get posted on here. And I understand some of that frustration, but I think it'd help everyone if people were more charitable or kinder to each other, as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 09:10 PM
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I think that's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 08:48 PM
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I think you're right to an extent. But I'm seeing it with my brother and his sort of not-girlfriend. He repeatedly tells her that he only views her as a friend and that he isn't romantically in love with her. But he keeps flying out to another state for her, to help her out, etc. And she just moved across the country for him, while going late night to her place to have sex. She keeps having sex with him hoping that she'll win him over, eventually. This is by her own admission. Every single perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:01 AM
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It's more common I think for a woman to be in one with a man, than vice versa. But we usually look at a male in a situationship as getting led on or breadcrumbed. As in the relationship never actually happens. Rarely does that have physical intimacy in the male version of it, though it does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 01:54 AM
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I can definitely see that with some people's psychology, you can't assume everyone is good and kind. But the women at the bottom don't usually want those men, not because they're bad people who only view them as sex objects for a quick lay. You can't assume everyone is just an immoral degenerate for being unattractive. But probably because unattractive people don't tend to find other unattractive people attractive. Most successful or happy relationships tend to happen around similar levels of at…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:43 AM
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I'd say this is true to an extent, because he mentions it in the follow up comment and he's right. The men at the absolute bottom aren't usually wanted by the women at the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 01:30 AM
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Having a scarcity mindset can lead to you making bad decisions. If men believe that being alone is worse than paying more than they truly want to, that’s on them I think there's truth to that. I wouldn't say the choice should be a binary of dating or not dating, holding out for someone you go 50/50 on everything with. But the worst relationships I've had were ones where I was just expected to give and give, even before the relationship had formally started. There is a 'traditional' mindset that …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:59 AM
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I don't necessarily think you're wrong in any of this. But like you said here: Both are valid concerns. But tbh the only option you really have is to stick to your own values and deal with having a smaller pool of potential partners Far more men have a scarcity of options to begin with. And while you are right, society holds a strong view of a double standard where men are expected to cover a lot of traditional roles that women are usually exempted from. You're expected to give, give, and give. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:42 AM
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Honestly, if a girl called me that? And it wasn't very clearly a joke? I'd probably be disgusted. It's usually indicative of unhealthy attitudes towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:27 AM
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I don't know how OP typed that title without even asking himself why most women would rather not be called anyone's cum dumpster.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:26 AM
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I think there's some points OP made, but that title statement... vast majority of women don't like being called a cum dumpster or a pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:25 AM
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Because I assert that most men do not want women to be sexually indiscriminate— they want a woman who is very selective, and strongly prefers him over other men. They do not generally want a woman who will take basically any male offer. They want a woman who treats him like he’s truly special, not just one of a thousand men in a line up. So why would men feel vindictive about women behaving the way they want women to behave? I want to preface and say that I agree with everything you've said up t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 10:49 PM
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male uber drivers From what a lot of I've heard, there's a lot of very sketchy drivers out there. While the stories themselves getting sensationalized sort of makes it seem like a wider spread thing than it actually is, that's seems definitely the type of job that often attracts sketchy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 10:43 PM
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Do you have an article about this guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 03:03 AM
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This is probably one of the best comments I've seen on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 03:00 AM
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Probably a little bit of A, little bit of B.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 02:59 AM
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I'm inclined to agree... but there's way more single men than single women. It seems a lot like the traits that are good for a long-term relationship aren't inherently attractive or exciting in the age of hookup apps and OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 02:58 AM
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Kind of bad for society long-term if we do that, honestly. You can't force people not to make bad decisions, but if you build society upon a bedrock of single moms who made a lot of bad decisions in the fathers of their children, it's going to look like Compton.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 02:56 AM
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I'm marked as purple, and I wasn't the guy being asked, but I probably would. 25 or 35. Basically depends on things such as baggage, where I'm at in life, etc, and how well we connect. I'd still want kids, so probably 25 would be more ideal. But 35 wouldn't be ruled out, especially if I was 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:04 AM
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Kind of depends, but you're right in that most of those PUA gurus" are men who peaked years ago and are average at best. Great looking men live in a parallel universe. Very much true. Had a former friend. I stopped being friends with him the first time because of how he was treating his girlfriend, whom I did not even really like all that much, but him cheating on her and boasting about it was enough to make me cut him off the first time. After she forgave him and my family begged me to give him…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:16 AM
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The fact you unironically say a statement like that without any hint of irony is probably why your relationships with men don't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:51 AM
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I didn't see her say that in the comment she posted, at least she is right that it'd be hypocritical for someone to ask for those things and not have it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:12 AM
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It wouldn’t be better but it might be different. By the metric of how happy people were in those decades, I would say it was better. Based on anecdotes and polling data, people were happier with their relationships, short or longer term back then. A lot of similar problems existed back then, but modern technology and culture have exacerbated that, such as ghosting, lack of commitment, as well as delusion and entitlement. People not enjoying dating doesn’t mean the rules and standards of desirabi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:04 AM
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If you listen to every bit of advice with a Feminist/Blue Pill slant, it becomes incredibly contradictory and dysfunctional. Because even with the point you start with, approaching strangers is treated like the meta, but then you'll get hounded about bothering women who just want to enjoy X, Y, or Z. So talking to a stranger who explicitly you only have romantic or sexual interest is the ideal, because if it was a friend then you're a creep. But you're a creep for approaching a stranger who migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 01:34 AM
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which just means it doesn't happen to them. I've talked with a lot of different guys, including the player type. While I've had it happen to me before, it's incredibly rare. Where when I've talked with a lot of other men, they've mentioned to me how rare that happens. And even when I've talked with the player type, they've told me "you pretty much have to do everything to make the relationship happen." So maybe it does happen, once in a blue moon. But you can't rely on that. Relying on that has …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 01:30 AM
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I don’t think there is a solution to a lack of desirability. I think we do, but I also don't think it's reasonably going to happen without broad changes in culture. Because we had something that was more sustainable, probably before either of us were adults or were born. And there were problems there. But there's a reason a lot of people, men and women, say that modern dating is a hellscape. And is worse than what it was even 10 years ago. I think one of the easiest ways is shutting down hookup …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 11:14 PM
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If there are a lot of horny and desperate dudes the “balance” of power changes. A woman who was considered average isn’t average in a world of desperate men which is the world we have always lived in. Not to the degree in the present. Dating apps and other aspects of social media are things we did not evolve with. And you can see in real time, the social fabric keeping us together has been eroding in all facets of modern life. The same fabric that helped bring people together and kept them toget…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 11:08 PM
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A huge difference is that a man who is delusional about his attractiveness is usually not getting into relationships, long or short-term. A heterosexual woman on the other hand, will have plenty of delayed consequences on her perceived attractiveness. The consequences are usually post-hoc or backloaded. There’s not a lot of very out of shape, overweight and unattractive dudes with unrealistic expectations that are hooking up with girls who are objectively way more attractive. There are a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 10:40 PM
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Then listen to your own advice and tune out blackpillers? I do engage with blackpillers and hard redpillers. So that whataboutism is assuming I don’t criticize them, when I do. I even suggested that by saying the inverse is true with men, the male counterpart of that in my previous comment. But I’ve seen comments here with a frequent theme that the only solution that a lot of women say here, would be literal sexual slavery of women to fix the modern issues. Therefore, there is no ethical solutio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 10:32 PM
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If someone endlessly goes along to complain and starts hating on men, misery loves company. People like that spread negativity instead of reflecting. The same is true for the inverse with men. People like that don’t tend to want to reflect but double down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 07:34 PM
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And there is the goalpost shift. You are not using that correctly. I'm not the OC, I am not shifting a goal post because I'm not making a one claim, then changing it to suit my purposes. I gave a separate comment with a separate opinion, sharing what I have seen and experienced. While to degrees, it corroborates what they are saying, I am not the same person; we are not a hivemind. OC clearly stated women are saying "all men I don't want to sleep with are bad people." I have seen similar sentime…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:06 PM
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As is often pointed out even convicts can get women. There is an underlying psychology thing where that's an attractant for some women. Pretty much every serial killer with a degree of media publicity gets marriage proposals. Often the same is true for mass shooters. A study on an indigenous group in South America by Napoleon Chagnon found that men who had killed other men, were more likely to have more wives. And there's probably a multitude of reasons for this, not just ranging from removing o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:58 PM
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That's fair, even if there are examples of that in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:48 PM
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Where are women saying this? In this thread, repeatedly. You can pull up in my comments people suggesting any and all difficulties I've had in dating come down to a moral deficiency. Though the last time I had it, sort of did eventually find a middle ground with that person. But it's a pretty common Ad Hominem on most dating subs, and it's a pretty common retort to accuse anyone having difficulties of being entitled or deficient in character. I can try and comb through the thread and quote examp…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:48 PM
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There only is if you're crusading against men and making sweeping generalizations, like saying "the bar is in hell," when you're consciously picking the most attractive option you can muster. It's not to spread awareness and obligate you towards picking someone you are fundamentally not attracted to. But it's to spread awareness that if someone is average, they should probably go for someone who is also average. Nobody should be treated badly, and yes, nobody is entitled to another person or the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:34 PM
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That's absolutely a valid thing to say, I completely agree with it. At the same time, the guy you're responding to is right. I have seen profoundly misandristic statements on here by certain posters saying that any man who is having any difficulties in dating are bad people and deserve that. And any sort of middle-ground solution is tantamount to reducing women to chattel. There are a lot of people who comment and post here who seem to only post here because of a profound addiction to drama. Or …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 11:58 PM
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There is a reason that many women are moving away from men. It is because the way that most men are is a detriment to them and their lives. Men don't want to acknowledge this. Business, culture, laws, as well as a breaking fabric of social cohesion. Much more so than anything else, there's that. The fact you feel comfortable about painting half of humanity as the antagonists for the other half is part of a cultural malaise we're enduring. Society falls apart when there is so little trust that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:55 AM
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I have not broken any rules. You just don't like what I have pointed out. Rule 2: Personal attacks include insults, attacks on others character, and negative or otherwise insulting insinuations about other users. Your comment: It is only your wet dream fantasy that it will overtake and women will be harmed and made to suffer for the sin of not wanting to be with you. You absolutely have, that is incredibly condescending and snide. Not to mention insinuating that I'm pro-Taliban and pro-sexual en…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:42 AM
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Nobody is entitled to the love or time of another person. But are you assuming that the only correction to this situation is by force? Because nobody is happy with this situation, both men and women. Is your assumption of the vast majority of mid dudes is that they're just shit people for wanting a thing that every human being to varying degrees is biologically wired to want? I'd understand if it's under the false dichotomy of Taliban vs. Modern Hookup Culture, then sure. But what we have is uns…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:15 AM
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It is a debate sub. And you've already broken rules 2 and 3, doesn't excuse bad behavior. We don't need more people and the fact that the pendulum is swinging the other way is all to the good. That's very well good and true, except the rest of the world doesn't have that in mind. You can turn a blind eye to it, but plenty of people will turn around and exploit a decline. And right now that decline is being exploited by considerably far more conservative cultures than we both share. So yes, it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:12 AM
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It is only your wet dream fantasy that it will overtake Current birthrate projections say otherwise, especially in Western Europe. Have you been keeping up with current events even in the slightest over there? Or do you have your head in the sand? and made to suffer for the sin of not wanting to be with you. My issue is more that I keep running into people who fundamentally do not kids, not whether I can get laid or not. Pretty much every person I have dated or been involved with did not want ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:02 AM
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I think there's truth to what you're saying, absolutely. Sort of like when I hear people unironically say "bang maid," but then lament that they can't meet anyone, I imagine that people who say "beta bucks" probably elicits a similar feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:28 AM
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Sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:14 AM
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She's being deliberately obtuse. A lot of people go on this sub exclusively to argue at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:13 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:03 AM
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Kind of all the more reason to not let it overtake what we have now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:46 AM
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Are you being deliberately obtuse? How did you extrapolate that? Mid dudes aren’t immoral assholes for wanting to be with mid girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:45 AM
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They tried to undo 1,500 years of culture, and it reverted in less than a generation. That required foreign colonialism to happen at all. That egalitarian restructuring to occur straight up required disenfranchisement by a foreign power.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:40 AM
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I live in California… trust me, you absolutely don’t want him running the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:37 AM
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Why is staying friends with someone going to hurt you emotionally? Depends on the situation, but if your feelings are already romantic, then they have the chance of growing stronger as you become closer or fonder with someone. And inevitably, if someone rejects you, they will eventually find someone else. Then staying while they are entangled with that person, becoming further invested into a dead-end of a relationship is not healthy. You can absolutely be friends with someone who rejected you. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:15 AM
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That kind of depends, though. If staying friends with someone is going to hurt you emotionally, then it's probably healthier to start putting distance. Staying in an arrangement where you have feelings for the other person and are watching them with other people is not always going to be good for your mental health. Or their other relationships. Sometimes it's better to have that distance. I don't think your analogy is wrong, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:18 AM
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I think the "friendzone" means different things depending on whoever uses it, and as a result, should probably die as a term. Some people use it for nebulous reasons and conflate someone being frustrated with being led on in a deliberately vague or ambiguous way. People also use it a buzzword for rejection, which we have a word for: rejection. Rejection is broad, diverse, and not all rejections are the same. There are a lot of people who want to keep suitors around as friends, then maintain a ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:14 AM
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This sounds oddly specific and I hope for your sake, you're not doing this. But to answer it: no. Doing that is setting yourself up for a failed marriage at a minimum and a divorce in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:56 AM
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Those are all valid things to ostracize. I’ve had people do those things to me before, even as a man. I live in California, though. I’ve had girls ask me out, my info and everything, talk with me for weeks, tell me how interested they are in me, then act like I’m some weirdo who misread everything. Showed the texts to people, people I know said I dodged a bullet. But I still have that person badmouthing me years later at the same event we both work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:22 PM
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What if that leads to getting complaints or getting kicked out of places? Even if nothing you did was inappropriate, roll the dice enough, eventually you will find someone who will complain about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 11:17 AM
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Dontdatehimgirl.com had this exact situation. It didn't end well for that site and they had to settle out of court, cutting the database part. It was absolutely being abused, one of the men who got slandered was a gay man who had never been on a date with their accuser. She got rejected by him and wanted to hurt him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:51 AM
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There was something similar called Dontdatehimgirl.com 15 years ago. They got sued. The EU doesn't allow Tea for legal reasons. The US does because it's very hard to legally prove slander. That alone should probably be a testament to how bad of an idea this is if Dontdatehimgirl.com failed their lawsuit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:44 AM
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There was one. Inevitably, it attracted shitty people and was being abused to post revenge porn. Apps like these are always a bad idea, it attracts terrible people who love to gossip or slander.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:43 AM
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The only Telegram group I've ever been part of one was to get STL files for 3D printed mins. I've legitimately never heard of Telegram groups like that, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised there's a bunch of really degenerate ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:42 AM
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Most of the people hyper obsessed with incels usually are femcels like on r/FemaleDatingStrategy. Or they hate men, like on r/TwoXChromosomes. 99% of the people that get called incels are usually guys who disagree with them, or ones who a label like a misogynistic or chauvinistic would be more accurate for. I think there was an actual r/Incel that did advocate for things like “state mandated sexual partners,” but vast majority of people who are romantically or sexually unsuccessful just want a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:12 AM
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That commitment goes out the window when you get horny and just want Chad to screw you. Attention and the validation from a quick hookup win over values.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:42 PM
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You can get laid, but you can't keep a man or have a relationship you genuinely want. It ends with everyone lonely, just that it's way more backloaded as that type of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:47 AM
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I've seen attractive men be creepy or weird to girls. There's a lot of truth to what you say, and definitely a lot of truth to the notion that creepy equals unattractive. But I do also think awkward = creepy is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:59 PM
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There's a lot of very different people with varying degrees of views. There's also a lot of angry, bitter people posting here who just genuinely hate men. There's also angry, bitter men who hate women. But I've noticed way more of the former than the latter here, as of late. Plenty of people post here because they're addicted to arguing and internet drama. So keep that in mind, they're not the most well-adjusted or credible people posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:45 PM
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How is it possible for women to simultaneously have unrealistic standards but also have such an easy time getting men. According to redpill, all women want the top 20 percent of men, but then wouldn’t that leave 80 percent of women single? But they’re not? They are claiming those women aren't in genuine relationships. That they're being used for situationships, hookups, or that they're getting cheated on by guys spinning plates with several other women. Really, most women probably have reasonabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:25 AM
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I don't get why someone would default to dinner first. Granted, I've had an okay dinner date as the first one before. But it didn't go anywhere past the second date, and I get the vibe that person went on a lot of 'first dinner dates' based on things they told me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:43 AM
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Dude, why are you marked as Blue Pill? That's a very deep red thing to say, probably closer to black pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:42 AM
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I think part of it is the photos and the bio. But a lot of our culture has prioritized so many others things, that a guy who gives the girl the tingles or is a great lay is usually the preferred option. Then a lot of girls work backwards to try and change that guy to be their ideal partner, while not getting a commitment or being treated like crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:19 AM
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I think you're completely right about all of that. And I appreciate that for once on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:17 AM
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I feel like we probably are there, but that's something I'm willing to say might just be anecdotal on my part. If I might ask: are you in America? And which state or broader "regional" culture are you part of, if so? Because I'm in California, but most of my friends in other states don't have issues with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:41 PM
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That doesn't weaken my arguments here at all. Everything I said still holds true even with that in mind. So does everything else I said. The point isn't to argue but to discuss, which you instantly downvoted my reply, so I doubt we're in agreement on that. What we can abstract from this is, a lack of social continuity post-high school or college is the problem. Where can you be around a lot of single women for extended periods where interactions organically happen post-uni? That's part of the pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:39 PM
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I think what they're referring to is vulnerable narcissism, which definitely affects men and women, but I think there are definitely more women with that specific type of it than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:55 PM
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I think if you're a swimmer, then maybe? Or you worked out at the gym, then it makes sense. Granted, I sometimes do it twice a day, but that's mainly because I have OCD tendencies and always like to feel clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:54 PM
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They say it’s ridiculous to shower twice a day, to wash your clothes so often As someone who does shower twice a day pretty often... you probably shouldn't. I'm the type who also needs their hair wet everyday. I feel like I've dated way more girls who don't bathe everyday. My ex would only take 60-90 second showers because she believed it was better for your skin that way. And I was talking with a girl who bathed only every other day for her skin. And a lot of girls go weeks without wetting thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:53 PM
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A lot of women do that to upstage other women in some weird, passive aggressive arms race. Part of it is trying to get male validation, but the other part is to flex over other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:30 PM
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While I agree with a lot of what you are saying: The biggest radical change that men can do for themselves is set up more social resources for each other. Normalize hugs between men. Normalize asking your bro how he's doing. Teach little boys how to be comfortable in their own company and find productivity in themselves and their own hobbies. Isn't this already normalized? I feel like it has been. There was only this brief time in my adolescence where that was frowned upon, and that was when my …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:28 PM
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Online dating is a biased group to study to begin with. When you give people stats, especially in the context of meeting a complete stranger, By current stats, it's the leading method in which couples meet. As in a majority of people, not a plurality, meet online. Coupled with a lot of other stats, the outlook is not so good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:23 PM
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Kind of depends. Some people are caked in makeup to where you can tell. Other people you can tell there's a light amount, but not too much. My ex was generally good about it, and you couldn't tell in photos she was wearing a ton. But she was also deeply insecure about it, like she would make sure her ex-fiance would only ever see her with makeup on by letting him go to sleep first, and her waking up before he did to put makeup on so he never saw her without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:20 PM
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women dont make mistakes and its sexist to suggest that women are out here gas lighting men The fact you typed that without a hint of self-awareness tells me you're probably trolling people with bait. But in the small chance you're genuinely serious, I sincerely hope for your sake that you realize that being a terrible person is not a gendered thing. Because I can give you a serious reply to that, but I'm pretty certain you're posting bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:11 PM
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Are you serious? Or are you joking?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:05 PM
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Kindness is something a lot of women can and will be attracted to. At the same time, cruelty backed by power is something a lot of women can be attracted to. If a guy is just "nice" and not attractive, and doesn't seem powerful, then he's like the equivalent of being attracted to a cardboard cut out. If a guy is attractive and people respect his cruelty, he can afford to be cruel without retaliation, then a lot of girls will be attracted to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:23 PM
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This is pretty much my main reason for not participating in this, the secondary is that I don't think casual sex or hooking up is good for men or women. Because you can never shop at a store and be 100% certain the employees are being treated properly, even with laws and regulations. And that is same with sex work, except an employee getting abused in sex work is generally far more life altering or dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:16 PM
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The girl wants to keep interacting in this case, that's the confusing part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:12 PM
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I think you covered most of it. It doesn't seem like anyone in this situation was at fault based on the information we were given, because we can't jump to that conclusion based on the limited information. There are definitely people who keep suitors around as backups or for validation. But we don't know if this person just wanted friendship and didn't see this pursuit for what it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:11 PM
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The problem is that most men aren’t wired to stay in relationships where their sexual agency is suppressed, and most women aren’t wired to stay attracted to men who pedestalize them. I don't agree with the first part, but I definitely agree with the second part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:01 PM
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Or settling for mistreatment by someone you are very attracted to, but are allowing them a pass for bad behavior. Or a dynamic that is making you unhappy, that you would not allow for someone less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:43 PM
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That's dodging the question that I asked. Unless you're genuinely saying something made with ambiguous knowledge or false pretenses is inherently more ethical than someone engaging in something they were knowingly and willingly participating in? Because even in this thread, there's people who are saying they have worked as sex workers and enjoyed it. I know people who have done it, several people who have worked as dominatrixes. One of those two was also a producer and writer for adult films. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:40 PM
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While a lot of women don’t like it, a lot of women also harshly judge a man who’s inexperienced. My first girlfriend judged me harshly for it, initially liking it, then later insinuating nobody else wanted me. I’ve seen that same sentiment here, with girls saying if a guy is still a virgin by 22-25, it’s a red flag. So a question for you: would you prefer a virgin with little to no romantic experience? Or a guy who has been with 30+ girls, but only a handful of actual relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:08 PM
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I’d say that’s the case if someone is being coerced or forced into that line of work. But a lot of the time, there’s people who willingly engage with it either because they enjoy it or just like the money or lifestyle it gives them. I know a guy who had a stripper proposition him. Was she coerced into that after she offered it? And then her following up trying to get him to return to the club?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:02 PM
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Would you be down to share them? Because the only one I could ever find that had a written account from the actual workers was this case in Northern Germany. I didn't say there are no written accounts of sex work, I said from the perspective of the workers. the only Medieval accounts we have from sex workers Nothing I said implied we didn't have accounts written by the managers or implied accounts that said otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:56 PM
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i'm using "tell me a way you would identify a trafficked sex worker" to validate my belief that men do not confirm the sex work is consensual. From guys I've known who have done this, they either looked into the girls on a website. Or went to a legal establishment. But I knew two guys who went to some shady massage parlor. One of those two I could believe wouldn't care to check or confirm. The other I don't think the thought occurred to him afterwards. There's a popular streamer I hold against h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:50 PM
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It's not there isn't any degree of truth to that. Preselection is absolutely a thing. At the same time, I've known guys who were kind of losers who didn't take care of themselves physically or emotionally, who were able to succeed at that. By their own admission, their genes weren't good. Part of it is genes, the other part is the illusion of status or security.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:40 PM
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That's making the assumption that every girl who does that isn't enjoying it. I don't think it's a good thing. But you're not being consistent on that. If a guy manipulates or lovebombs a girl with deliberately ambiguous signals to get her to hookup, (which a lot of the player type do, let's be real), that's more ethical than someone who actually wants to do sex work engaging with a legal client by her own choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:37 PM
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It demonstrates value. To really insecure or emotionally immature women who have been brainrotted by hookup culture, yes. And I get it, that's a huge part of the dating pool at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:34 PM
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It was from PEW research. The article talks about men and women, rates of singleness, as well as whether they have had a prior experience within the last year. Far more women identified as being in a relationship or having past experiences within the last year than men. This was 2020. Probably, guys have gotten too burned out from every date being terrible and just giving up on OLD. So the preexisting trend of most girls matching with the same men probably further caused the death spiral of that…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:33 PM
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and we know that assumption is false (legalizing sex work increases trafficking I don't necessarily disagree. That's usually why a lot of countries that legalize it don't allow it to be organized, only independent. That still happens, though. But this is making the assumption that trafficking isn't happening, because there are people who willingly engage with this. we all know if we ask men who want to go to brothels to tell us 3 signs the woman may be trafficked they're gonna look at us like 😮)…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:25 PM
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So do you feel that about a legal exchange between a sex worker and a patron?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:20 PM
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The stats I've seen suggest otherwise, but those might be outdated from around 2020-2021. That was the trend for the last decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:20 PM
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He's kind of right, though. You don't have to keep investing yourself into that person after that. At the same time: there's a lot of people who deliberately keep things vague to keep getting the romantic investment of a suitor, without a commitment or reciprocal investment on her part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:19 PM
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I think what a lot of people conflate as the "friend zone" is being led on. It's having someone make you invest a disproportionate amount of time and resources while the other person keeps things vague and ambiguous, until they no longer want that pursuit. People are allowed to change their minds. They are allowed to reject people, no one is obligated to have another person. At the same time, you are allowed to be internally frustrated if someone flagrantly wastes your times. That isn't an excus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:17 PM
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I agree. I don't think either are healthy, but it's better than some guy lovebombing a girl who gets played by some horny guy who dumps her after getting what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:12 PM
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Any dude with $20 can bang a prostitute. If a guy is able to pay $20 for it, he's probably a sex tourist or going for clearly trafficked or desperate people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:10 PM
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It was seen as a bad thing, just more like "necessary evil" sort of thing. Even the church knew it was going to happen in some capacity, and trafficking still happened. One of the only Medieval accounts we have from sex workers involved a forced abortion, as well as a husband and wife trafficking girls in the brothel while fleecing them on pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:58 PM
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It's merited in a lot of ways. But out of curiosity, do you hold that same stigma for people who participate in hookup culture? Especially the kind of people who are doing it every week or sometimes daily?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:56 PM
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There is less, it just means that a smaller number of men participate while most girls participate in it every so often.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:55 PM
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Also very much true, but people tend to bind themselves to things that hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:53 PM
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Pretty much, but god forbid you say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:52 PM
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I'll be honest, I've met the player type who have paid for it. I've also met guys who paid for it that probably couldn't get it otherwise. That's definitely part of the demographic, those who can't get it. But there's a lot of guys who do it just because they want to bed someone attractive without any effort. Most of the guys I've known who've admitted to it were involved with the army or the navy, and couldn't realistically date. But they otherwise had no issues finding women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:48 PM
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The opinions of being judged, because a lot of them either A: feel like nobody genuinely wants them already, so why care? And B: the player type who never cared about another person's feelings or opinions and just wants to fuck. I don't necessarily disagree with anything you said. Even if to some degree, it's going to happen no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:44 PM
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Yeah, girls would rather have a man who has ran through a ton of girls who gave it for free. Even if he spent a ton on dates and impressing them, rather than a guy who outright paid for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:41 PM
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I don't see it as any different than a guy hooking up with strangers at a bar or on Tinder, assuming it's legal and trafficking isn't done. But I don't either of those things should be encouraged or celebrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:41 PM
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Pretty much. It matters more than people care to admit for either a man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:39 PM
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No disagreement. I also think someone would have merited weariness or apprehension if their partner was regularly having casual sex with new people on a regular basis. Even with getting tested, there's still diseases that can be left undetected after a test. Same deal with going to brothels. I do think if it's under a legal and official context, there's a guarantee there is nothing illicit or trafficking is involved, it shouldn't be stigmatized more than someone going on Tinder or a bar and hook…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:38 PM
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I straight up had an anthropology teacher use that as an example of a faulty methodology for a study, where she said that study counted "sex you ended up regretting" as rape or sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:30 PM
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Getting treated badly enough times by girls will do that, whether in a relationship, or in those early dates. Especially after knowing most girls on these apps just match with the same guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 01:14 AM
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When 34% of women aren't? And birthrates are at critical low rates? That's not really a functioning society with a long-term future. The implication here is that a lot of girls think they are in a relationship, when they are really not. And a lot of girls are just hooking up with the same men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:56 PM
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The same PEW research thing also found half hadn't been involved with someone in over a year, though. Like everything you said is true, but there's also that detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:54 PM
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I'd say that's fair except most guys won't know she's a vapid, shallow idiot until you're actually on a date. And if it's on online dating: make a profile as a guy. Vast majority of girls on there give minimal effort, and it shows on the date. My brother only put "6'1" in his bio, and had fundamentally way more success at it than I was at dating. Considering most relationships start online, yet most guys get passed over on these, I don't really think this is a "men are shallow, so these women do…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:51 PM
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Women tend to judge a man for a lack of romantic success. I've talked with people on here who have said that if a guy was a virgin past 25, they would consider that a red flag. A lot of women on here think that is a bigger red flag than a guy whose experience is only hookups or mostly hookups. Or even a guy who does hookups at all is preferred to a man who hasn't had much going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:20 AM
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I'd say that's accurate for parts of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:18 AM
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I’ll be real with you: the fact she made a post to lambast her 64 year old husband and put him in blast, kind of a massive red flag in of itself. This isn’t like choosing groceries, if it’s for medicine, then it’s for medicine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:51 AM
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Incredibly true. I got downvoted heavily on this sub for asking a woman on here if she seriously thought the only solution for the male loneliness epidemic was seriously sexual slavery of women. That’s not misrepresenting her position, she outright said the only solution for men would be rape and violence. I got accused of being privileged and deliberately blind of women’s problems when I suggested that was hyperbolic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:49 AM
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Then that means both you and those guys were the exception, not the norm. Most don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 03:13 PM
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From what I've read, women don't seem to mind the single life nearly as much as men. The most depressed demographic is apparently the 40+ single, childless career woman. No hope for a family, terrible dating prospects, overspending on luxuries to fill a void.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 02:30 AM
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I'm saying this as a guy who has been approached... it happens very rarely. Very rarely. And usually alcohol is involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 02:27 AM
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Mid women should be cool dating mid men. A lot of girls would get better results if everyone didn't think they were settling when they were going for someone at their level... fuck, even as a guy, part of me felt like I was settling for my ex in terms of looks. Felt I could do better. But she was probably one of the best people I dated, and I'd still be with her if we both wanted kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 02:24 AM
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It's probably outdated when the rate of first marriages has sharply fallen, as well as people getting married at all. And most men being single, while most women think they are in a monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 02:19 AM
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I don’t know why your first and immediate thought process is “logically” to assume most men would be rapists. Even the worst misogynists couldn’t make up hateful shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:07 PM
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Enough to where you sincerely think the vast majority of men need to be inhuman oppressors to be happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 05:56 AM
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That didn’t even vaguely come into mind for possible solutions. And I sincerely hope your sake that it’s not a reflection of your disposition towards half of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 05:31 AM
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I say this a lot: social skills and charisma don’t make attraction. They definitely help facilitate it. But there’s a lot more to it these days, beyond it being so much harder to meet people, especially as a guy. Or culture surrounding dating becoming increasingly toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 09:53 AM
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Absolutely, but that’s the hookup culture we live in. Not saying it’s right or wrong, but a lot of people have the idea that if a guy is a virgin, there’s something wrong with him. But if a guy has girls, he’s valuable or someone people actually want to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 09:50 AM
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When I was 21, in my first relationship, my ex initially thought it was good I was a virgin. She liked that until she didn’t. Then she later insinuated it was because something was wrong with me. Maybe it was in part due to severe insecurity about her past, and her desire for me to not just accept it but also embrace it. But I don’t think she truly accepted it, with how much she lived in it. That was when I was 21, I’ve seen girls shame a guy for being one at 13-14. A lot of women view being a v…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 09:46 AM
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I knew guys getting shamed for being virgins at 13-14. It was surreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 09:38 AM
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Because unless she is severely overweight or outright repulsive, there is bound to be someone who'd be interested in dating her. How many of those dates are kept only at first dates? Or how often does she even go out? Even an average girl can lineup multiple dates with multiple men per week, if she desired that. She's either rejecting all of the guys who would be serious about her, or she's only pursuing men who would never take her seriously. Or she just is not the type for a serious relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 01:34 AM
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That would be the Black Pill answer, that everything is fucked, there’s nothing you can do. Red Pill is that attraction is non-negotiable and then it follows with varying ideas on a spectrum of what is and isn’t attractive. That being said: Charles Manson died a married man. Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker, married within prison. There are women absolutely into that. Luigi Magione, who was having troubles dating, now has young women lusting over him now that he’s been accused of murdering a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:26 AM
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What a friend told me once, and it sounds bad, but I think there's truth to it: "Girls like to lead on, but don't like to get led on. People like to have options and be someone's priority, but not so much when they're treated like an option and not a priority. And I think that's a huge reason why modern dating is wrought with bad behavior. The self is more important than anything else, and people don't care about who they hurt so long as they get what they want. It's why so many men get thorough…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:47 PM
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I've had a lot of my gay friends hit on me. Had a guy once grope me and I had to push him off. That was fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:44 PM
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I've had enough gay dudes to say there's a lot of truth to that. But generally, gay men seem the happiest with it. Even if there's this huge culture of drug abuse and casual sex... lost several friends to the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:43 PM
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Surprised you're marked as Blue Pill, because that's a very Red Pill answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:41 PM
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Probably depends where you live. If it's a city like LA? Probably not, people prioritize what's fun and exciting, not what's good for them. I've seen that a lot. If it's a more tight-knit community, people generally go for what's good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:41 PM
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It's kind of true and a lot of data suggests there's truth to it, but most divorces and breakups are initiated by the woman, and usually a man in his 30's has more confidence, assets, IE, things that most women find attractive compared to a man younger than him. So there's trade offs, generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:36 PM
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I knew a guy who did that. I’d say it worked out for him, but it kind of didn’t. His life went completely out of control. He’s dead now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:38 PM
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I can sort of understand the notion that a lot of modern women tend to put more energy or risk into a hookup than a guy they supposedly see a long-term future with. But this all turned into a long-winded rant trying to justify monkey branching at best, cheating at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:33 PM
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Pretty much every girl I’ve been involved with liked rough sex, when I explicitly didn’t. And it has caused me issues. Maybe it’s because I dated very hypersexual people, but from most guys I’ve known: girls tend to be prefer this stuff compared to the regular guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:15 PM
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Because he already isn’t paying child support, he has plausible deniability due to the circumstances around the kid’s birth. He also paid her off $20,000 to go away. He never signed a birth certificate, she moved to another state. She also got a new boyfriend almost immediately after she left, then revealed she was pregnant not long after if I have the timeline right. No idea on the legality. But also because he doesn’t want it to fuck up his marriage. His current wife knew he was screwing other…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:56 AM
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Way too many people have a "me, me, me" attitude, even after they've helped bring other people into existence. It's sad. A friend of mine is going through this with his brother, where his brother just doesn't acknowledge a kid he had with his ex because he claims the circumstances involved would've prevented him from being the dad. But the little girl looks just like him, and her mom is completely crazy. So it's a lose-lose situation for the girl, where the dad is this millionaire married to ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:40 AM
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but it must be were I live. I don't know what country or state you live in, but it might very well be. Statistically, most offenders are repeat offenders. So wherever you live, offenders aren't stigmatized, law enforcement either does not care, or they are too incompetent to do their jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:01 AM
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I don't typically judge on the first brush of my thigh but when I bat away your hand 4 times during the movie it's not really defensible anymore that you didn't know. That's abhorrent behavior and you have my sympathies. That's a huge line between trying to kiss someone and respecting a boundary, and someone actively ignoring a boundary repeatedly. Regardless the original comment isn't about if you should ask It kind of was? it's that so many men don't care about boundaries so we praise the one …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:11 AM
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There are definitely men who do not care regardless of what they are reading. But then there are a lot of men who are unsure, or might be misreading things, either putting doubt as a thing to psyche themselves out. It's a huge gray area of ambiguity that might just be better to ask someone. You can't reasonably expect people to always read your mind, because eventually, it's going to lead to someone making an incorrect judgement. All that being said, my brother with his first girlfriend, when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:46 AM
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I get lectured by women in my life and men for being polite like that. It kind of sucks, but a lot of women will say that isn't masculine or it's a huge turnoff. That it lacks confidence. The unfortunate reality is that a lot of girls want men who psychically know what she wants, and if he's confident about it, it's a turn on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:07 AM
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Not really, because I’ve said no. I’ve seen people say no. There’s plenty of guys who will just say yes to take what they can get. And plenty who will say yes even if they don’t like her, but want a chance to get laid. But are you going to say yes if you have absolutely no attraction to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 11:04 PM
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Women don't avoid asking men out because it's hard. They avoid it because no man is going to say no, whether he likes her or not. Fear of rejection is a huge reason a lot of girls don't. I've seen guys say no. I've also said no before. My ex didn't want to ask me my last name, despite me asking for hers because she didn't want to come across as creepy. A lot of girls lack courage for even basic communication at times. It's not a question of courage untill you point out her guy didn't have the sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 01:25 AM
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I'll paste a definition for you: hero /hîr′ō/ noun In mythology and legend, a man, often of divine ancestry, who is endowed with great courage and strength, celebrated for his bold exploits, and favored by the gods. A person noted for feats of courage or nobility of purpose, especially one who has risked or sacrificed his or her life.soldiers and nurses who were heroes in an unpopular war. A person noted for special achievement in a particular field: synonym: celebrity.the heroes of medicine. fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:41 AM
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My inclination, same as why most guys don't approach at work or elsewhere, is that the current zeitgeist is to treat men who want a relationship and it is unreciprocated, is to paint them in the most unfavorable light as a means of discouraging such advances at all. And this tends to lump in guys, regardless of intention. So most guys don't want to appear as That Guy. That Guy absolutely exists, and I somewhat get it. It is not fun to want to spend time with someone who does not actually enjoy w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 11:27 PM
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I say this as a guy, but most of the girls I've dated or talked to admitted to being shut-ins or not having real life friends. I don't think this is a universal thing, but when I go out, there's usually way more guys. Way more in most concerts, conventions, clubs, etc. I've had girls try and approach me before, and ones ask me out in the past. But I think a lot of girls only want a guy they're exceedingly attracted to try and approach them. Anything else, reserved for dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:04 AM
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You're a hero for doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:02 AM
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My last relationship was pretty alright, I met her at a nightclub. I'd still probably be with her if we both wanted kids. All that being said, I've had a lot of bad experiences talking to girls at clubs before. It can work, there are objectively worse ways of meeting someone. But it's also not one of the best ways of meeting someone for something serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:01 AM
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There are literally dance halls to this day. Most cities have weekly swing and salsa dance meet ups that will even teach you the basics. Other ballroom and line dance meet ups happen, too (I just don’t know as much about them.) I have a friend who does salsa dancing, but I don't think he's actually dated anyone that way. He's a good looking guy, very fit, charismatic. But from what he's told me, there tends to be a lot of disdain towards guys who do this to try and meet girls. I understand it in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:00 AM
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I don't necessarily disagree with you in anything you're saying, but I met my ex through a cold approach. And honestly? It was one of the better relationships that I had. That was in 2023. Honestly, I walked up to her because I was already feeling low after something else romantically failed. I just didn't care if I was labeled as creepy, even I had no intention of acting inappropriately. It can happen, but I think part of why it has also declined in social circles is largely for similar reasons…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:56 AM
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I remember a screenshot of a 4Chan post, where a Zoomer was posting in it about a screenshot from 101 Dalmatians where the husband and wife meet by bumping into each other in public. They were asking if that actually used to happen. I have female friends who only met their partner online, lamenting that nobody would walk up to them in a coffee shop. Except, people don't ask why that doesn't happen anymore. Because the reality is that good men don't want to be socially ostracized for being awkwar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:54 AM
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One of the top posts on r/dating right now is a post from a woman in that age group saying how she only finds men 10 or so years older than her attractive now. It might not be a thing for you, personally. Some people age better than others, or decide to make lifestyle changes that help them age or get in shape. I don't have a huge horse in that race, a lot of guys who parrot this often don't take care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:57 AM
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When you say "hot wife," are you saying she's hot? Or you guys are swingers?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:55 AM
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I'd be inclined to agree with the sentiment that men are most attracted to women in that age range, and it's not due to manipulation or wanting to take advantage of someone. But they put in a lot of bitter and inflammatory bits like that one that was edited out. The bit about: It’s common sense, but we all know how little of that exists on the blue side. While I definitely think there's a lot of blue pill people on here who are deliberately obtuse, that line was completely unnecessary and just i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:54 AM
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I don't necessarily know how much this applies to me anymore than any other man in our generation, but I'll try and answer accordingly: Yes, I do. I have a lot of friends I regularly talk to and hang out with on an almost daily if not weekly basis. Most men I know are single, even the ones who get lots of girls. Most guys I know are struggling in dating, even guys I know who are extroverted, charismatic. I know guys who are 6'3 personal trainers who are signing NDAs just to date regular girls th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:54 PM
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I've dated girls like this, but never heard of guys doing this. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. That's really awful, I'm sorry. It was a huge problem in my first relationship where I listened to her complain about her exes and flings for hours, while also learning every intimate detail about these guys. If I said anything about it, it would make things awkward or I'd get called insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:17 AM
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She acknowledged she was the exception on it, at least. She can't really speak on the psychology of why others don't, at least she could acknowledge that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:33 PM
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I've met a girl who was like that, but it was a cousin's girlfriend who he thankfully didn't marry, despite saying in front of her that he was planning on doing so. I am a very casual gamer and would only date a guy at the same level of casual. Not countless hours of yelling at strangers over a mic and overall just taking it way too seriously for my taste. This is probably exactly how the question was framed. And I absolutely get that to a degree, but some people get a bit hypocritical about tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:49 AM
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Just because you can't hookup with any girl you desire doesn't mean you're worthless as a human being. I know a lot of terminally online men and women will pretend that it's your worth, especially if they throw out the "incel" word. But your worth as a person isn't by how much sex you have. I have seen men who pay for sex unironically mock others as incels before. The word has lost any and all gravitas or meaning at this point. Yes, it is more work than it has ever been before to get something t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:33 AM
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Dude, for your mental health, please start doing something. I’m sure you’re not a bad looking enough guy. It’s easy to just say things are hopeless, but if you’re saying you’d rather just euthanize yourself, please seek professional help. I know you’re probably exaggerating, but please do anything but obsess over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:42 PM
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There’s maybe 10% if not less of guys who can get by on looks alone. West Elm Caleb wasn’t even exceedingly good looking, but he had the right persona and good enough superficials like a high paying job and tall stature. His personality wasn’t spectacular, but it was enough to sell everything else. You’re really blackpilled if you think it’s exclusively looks. Things aren’t good out there, it’s incredibly stacked against you as a man. But there are things you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:01 AM
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Personality and game are totally a thing. I'm saying this as a guy who's generally considered to be good looking, my awkwardness or shyness has hurt me far more than my looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:52 AM
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That comment was pretty funny, I won't lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:26 AM
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I don't necessarily disagree that men and women aren't the same. But an anecdote I had: girl initiated things with me, then backed out and ghosted me. Year later, I run into an old friend out of the blue. He was attending an event I was working. His now girlfriend was that same girl who ghosted me. Would you want one of your buddies to be part of your girl's past? Because if you encourage that kind of behavior, you increase the chances of that happening. My situation wasn't even a hookup, it was…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:22 AM
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Would you feel the same if the woman was doing that? Because if I learned the person I was dating was doing that, I'd drop them like they had the plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:19 AM
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Sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:35 PM
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The only time I've gotten visibly annoyed with a rejection involved someone I used to know lie to me and say they were asexual and aromantic, when I knew that wasn't actually the case. I still told them it was fine and wished them the best. I told them prior to that if they weren't interested, it was completely fine. But I never heard from them again after that. The way a lot of my friends, men and women said it, "That sounds like the kind of thing where someone thinks that sounds nicer, but act…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 11:55 PM
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which doesn't mean men should not vet the choices they do have or that women should not vet the choices they have Absolutely, people should be vetted. You are not obligated to date anyone, especially out of pity or charity. If someone is incompatible, then they are incompatible. But everyone has incompatibilities. And if you have an overabundance of options, a lot of people will bail at the first sight of an incompatibility. Most guys are more willing to find common ground probably because optio…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 01:52 AM
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I'll be totally real with you: if the women is more into the man, then that relationship stands a far greater chance of actually happening. But if the man is more into the woman, then that relationship is more likely to just 'stay as friends,' and if it happens, it's likely to lead to breakup, divorce, or infidelity simply because most girls have way more options than most guys. There's a reason the overwhelming majority of divorces and breakups are initiated by the woman. Ideally: the relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 10:56 PM
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And if that's the case with almost every girl out there? Men do not have even a 1/10 of the options that an average girl has. Men who opt out of dating are exercising higher standards. They're choosing to not play these stupid games where they are paying for the privilege of being treated badly, while entertaining someone with an irrational list of icks. I'm not going to say this is every girl out there, but dating as a heterosexual man is incredibly exhausting. You waste a lot of time, a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 10:51 PM
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It has, the trends from back then have only gotten worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:59 AM
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Maybe it’s because ‘moderate’ can be a broad range of beliefs, and depending on one’s social circles or communities, can mean a lot of different things. Because especially in 2020 and 2021, a lot of people I knew who identify as leftist or now socialist were calling themselves moderates.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:44 PM
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If you only believe something to get laid, you’re probably without integrity. In my experience? The men shouting these things the loudest tend to be the crappiest to women. I say that as someone who recently saw a coworker/acquaintance get fired from the group because of exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:55 PM
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My experience is more that moderates tend to be embarrassed leftists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:51 PM
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It sounds like she was playing her options, and the ‘better’ option worked out for her. So she decided to keep you as a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:52 AM
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I'd say that is how things should be, but the reality is that most girls will not just outright reject you. There will be a lot of ambiguity you have to parse, with lies, excuses, and or circumstances. Maybe that is more than just doing a cold approach, that is figuring out rejection as a whole, but vast majority will keep things vague rather than explicit. When girls have been honest with me, I have always thanked them for their honesty, no negotiation, no insistence. That tends to be the excep…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 09:26 PM
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Yes, yes, and yes. This is not even a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 08:32 PM
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We’d get really inbred, really fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 03:57 AM
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No, that’s ridiculously toxic and justifying cheating based on biological urges is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 02:16 AM
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I once mentioned going on a second date with a coworker, and how the first date went really well. She then nervously asked me if I’d consider dating anyone at work. Preselection is totally a thing. Girls tend to say yes to the guys who other girls said yes to. For a girl with integrity and self-respect? It’s a huge turnoff. But for a lot of women, it’s a sign this guy has something valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:55 PM
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Depends. Usually? Men tend to respect that guy, but will get defensive if their partner makes advances or that guy makes a move on her. That’s usually when men will be hostile about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:23 PM
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Men get shamed for being virgins, and it’s a dealbreaker for a lot of women. It wasn’t for my first girlfriend, but even she threw that at me during arguments. Girls want a guy with experience, but that usually translates to the guy with lots of experience, lots of options, and thus doesn’t care about her. It’s easier for most guys to talk with or impress a girl they don’t actually like that much. Less pressure, less anxiety, and less of a need to make it work. Even my own mom suggested doing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:06 AM
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Gaslight denied and totally rare cake? Is that a meme or something specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:40 AM
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Admittedly, I haven't really tried talking to a lot of the girls in this club because it's super cramped. And the music is way too loud to have a conversation. I've had girls try talking to me, but it has been very cursory. Way too difficult to have a conversation in these circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 01:14 AM
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Club I go to generally has more guys, but it has girls. It's an 80's themed one, though. So it's niche enough that it's not going to be overcrowded, at least not until past 11:00 PM.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 09:41 AM
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To be honest, I feel like porn has lowered men's standards. They're willing to simp or be treated like crap for someone who fulfills their sexual preferences, or even just a chance for sex. And that would happen without porn anyway, but I know dudes who stay in bad relationships or put up with awkward FWB arrangements because the girl lets them do things they like that they learned from porn. Or that they try and imitate the things they've seen in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:55 PM
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Women aren’t much better about it, they’re just less vocal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:47 AM
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Jack really shouldn’t be going for Abby. It’s one thing if they’re seeing other people, it’s another if they’re sleeping with other people. And especially if they have to withhold the truth on that so Jack can’t make an informed decision, then they probably shouldn’t be seeing their f-buddy while dating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:16 PM
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I’m so sorry, dude. That sucks. 🙁
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:19 AM
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Maybe it’s where I live, but most of the Hispanic Millenials and Gen-Z people I meet are around the same height as whites and blacks. And sometimes they’re taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:16 PM
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I've had multiple anthropology classes do this, but it's usually with primates, like bonobos, chimpanzees, and gorillas. And it was for Introduction to Biological Anthropology, but there was a bit for the Cultural segment. Anthropologists tend to look at how other primates evolved to try and gleam how or why we evolved the way we did. My textbook also stated that 80% of modern anthropologists are women, as was my professor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 11:28 PM
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