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Right, but sense reddit is a privately owned website they can also do whatever they want. If they want to ban every sub that starts with T, that's stupid, but it's 100% their right. I think coontown was shitty and gross, and there's been a creepy amount of defense on it here. I'm not talking about disagreeing with it being banned- that's a whole different argument. Just like multiple people in this thread claiming it "really wasn't that bad" or whatever
/r/MensRights06/08/15 03:19 PM
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What? I know people enjoyed it, obviously. Of course shitty, hate filled people enjoyed being racist with each other. I take it as a point of pride that I can't see the fun in fucking /r/coontown, because as mediocre of a person as I might be I don't jerk myself off about being better than black people on the internet. That would be truly pathetic.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 03:17 PM
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But it doesn't have to be " 100% angry people saying 'all blacks deserve to die" in order to qualify as super racist and shitty. The few times I visited coontown were through links or seeing it in the Other Discussions tab, and literally all of it was horrible racism. I did see some satire- racist satire, espousing racist views. Stormfront has satire, and jokes. I fail to see how a bunch of racists being racist and telling jokes that express their racism somehow constitutes a defense of a sub.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 03:03 AM
18

Are you seriously defending /r/coontown as "mostly not racist"
/r/MensRights06/08/15 02:34 AM
2

The vote totals for my comment have changed a few times so I think some folks are undecided
/r/MensRights22/07/15 10:48 PM
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"anyone who disagrees with me isn't a real man"
/r/MensRights22/07/15 05:42 PM
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He's sad in the past he was raped by a woman that conceived a child- I'm not sure if that's this case or not but very sad either way.
/r/MensRights16/07/15 08:29 PM
2

It's wasting my time, no one is making you read my comments or reply to them. But, honestly, I'm legitimately curious. How much pressure are you under that you can't spare the time to google a single word, or read a two sentence reply, yet do have the time to repeatedly complain about people wasting your time? Admittedly I'm not some sort of efficiency expert, but that doesn't seem to me to be the absolute best usage of your apparently quite valuable time.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 04:15 AM
2

Such as writing two different comments about how above it all you are, when it would take far less time to either understand the extremely simple post or just ignore it?
/r/MensRights09/07/15 04:06 AM
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It must be very difficult for you, not being able to use context clues to learn the meanings of new words, especially when only one of them isn't in the dictionary. It's very refreshing to see you honestly admitting to this disability, whereas most people might google words they're unfamiliar with you say no! I will not bow to my ignorance! I will be a stubborn prescriptivist, taking in no new vocabulary until I am almost completely incapable of communicating with anyone! It's a bold stance, and…
/r/MensRights09/07/15 03:29 AM
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Well I remember a lot of other things about it, and I did certain things in response to it. And most of my stronger memories are from later on, it continued for a couple years. The '80s cases were all suggested by therapists/parents, or recalled years after. I always knew it had happened.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 05:06 AM
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I know that on an intellectual level, but I can't shake the feeling by having never reported it I've led to more kids getting hurt.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 10:31 PM
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I got taken advantage of by a pre-school teacher when I was 4 years old. The worst part is that it went on for a long time, but I don't remember all of it. I don't even know if I lost my virginity or not. I have some memories that hint that she went that far, but it's so vague I don't know. It's really fucked me up, and I'm so full of shame about it I have a lot of trouble getting help. I talk about it on reddit a lot because it's honestly so liberating to be able to talk about it without gettin…
/r/MensRights15/06/15 05:12 PM
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Maybe it was an outlier, but I took an intro to gender studies class that was nothing like that. I was one of only two men in the class, but they were very understanding of men's issues and didn't "blame everything on white men."
/r/MensRights09/06/15 10:13 PM
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I honestly think the shaming and lack of help was worse for me than the actual abuse. I could have been basically normal if anyone was willing to acknowledge it was a bad thing.
/r/MensRights09/06/15 06:00 PM
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Yeah I really wish people were more understanding of this kind of thing. It's incredibly frustrating being a victim and seeing how widespread the belief that you should have enjoyed it is.
/r/MensRights09/06/15 05:32 PM
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This is just infuriating. It's not even an uncommon mindset, you see it all the time. Why even bother getting help, most people think like this.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 03:44 AM
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I've mentioned this on here quite a few times, but it is absolutely devastating how little society cares. And honestly it's not just male rape, I've talked to female victims who were treated similarly poorly, but there exists overall more support for them. I've had to deal with the effects of sexual abuse since I was 4 years old, and that whole time no one was on my side. Everytime I sought help, I was rebuffed- why didn't I want it, what am I a pussy? Endlessly. I had no concept that I was a vi…
/r/MensRights25/05/15 04:24 PM
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Sorry, that was worded poorly. I didn't enjoy it, but believed I was supposed to have enjoyed it. I thought something was wrong with me for not having enjoyed it.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 03:40 AM
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So, as an esteemed psychologist in the field of having sex with children, when do you think it's okay to rape kids? Because, well, as a non-horrifically twisted human being I've always kinda assumed child-rape was a big no-no, but I'm interested in the longtitudinal peer reviewed study you're clearly basing this on. Because approving of child rape based on idiot fantasies you drooled during would be idiotic, right? No sane person would do that.
/r/MensRights10/05/15 05:32 PM
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Well, couple things. I wanted to do a lot of things at that age that would have been awful for me in the long term, kids are immature. And in my personal experience, no one told me I was a victim. I felt like a victim, I was hurt and confused and scared but no one wanted to hear that. It was a fundamentally damaging experience that still has a decent chance of making me kill myself, and until I was a teenager I had literally no idea I wasn't supposed to have enjoyed it. Things are getting better…
/r/MensRights10/05/15 05:28 PM
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I was a lot younger when it happened (4) than most of the cases people talk about, but it fucked me up pretty bad. When I don't tell people how old I was, they've never expressed remotely any concern. When I say my age most get that it was unhealthy, but still dismiss it as not that bad or "could've been worse." I don't have any numbers either, but in my personal experience it's been pretty fucking awful. I think every girl that shows interest in me has bad intentions, and I have some symptoms o…
/r/MensRights29/04/15 09:36 PM
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God that narration literally made me sick with anger
/r/MensRights29/04/15 06:33 AM
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I was molested as a kid, and the lack of support is staggering. All the support groups I have access too are female only, and the two mental health professionals I've reached out too didn't know how to help me. Minimized it, that sort of thing. I have to say it's this lack of help that's far more damaging than the initial assault. It's like an injury- it hurts and it'll leave a scar but if you treat it you'll be mostly fine. But if you ignore it, it gets infected and it's much worse. I did try t…
/r/MensRights15/04/15 12:47 AM
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Do you have a link or clip?
/r/MensRights12/04/15 06:10 AM
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what the fuck?
/r/MensRights28/03/15 02:00 AM
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But a person who only has serious relationships with men is functionally hetero Not really, though. Bi doesn't mean a complete 50/50 split of attraction. Did you miss the part where I said she had had girlfriends before? Ah sorry, I got mixed up by the other part where you said her only serious relationships were with men. This is a false equivalence. Not really, you're saying a woman who has had multiple girlfriends is actually straight because she hasn't dated a woman in a while.
/r/MensRights21/03/15 01:09 AM
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I'm more attracted to men than to women." That doesn't mean she's not bi, though. Maybe she's physically but not romantically attracted to women. Or didn't want to deal with any stigma of being in a homosexual relationship. Is a straight guy who hasn't had sex in a long time suddenly suspected of being asexual? No, of course not.
/r/MensRights21/03/15 12:40 AM
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"Men cannot be raped" is literally in the title of this post. I think the OP was suggesting that this shows that men can be raped. I didn't read it as them saying people in that thread were saying men can't be raped.
/r/MensRights05/03/15 03:42 AM
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I don't see anybody suggesting "boys cannot be raped" though. Well yeah, no one is saying that. Offmychest is a better sub than that, and reddit as a whole is generally better than that. There are, however, people saying that she was experimenting- a couple that I replied to and potentially more since I've checked the thread. That she didn't know any better, those kinds of things.
/r/MensRights05/03/15 03:24 AM
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I don't think anyone was saying that it wasn't rape, or saying he wanted it. Several commenters described it as experimentation, or that she did it because she thought it was cool- describing it as a "non-malicious" rape.
/r/MensRights05/03/15 01:24 AM
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People generally acknowledge what happened as bad, but there's a lot of people trying to absolve her of any responsibility.
/r/MensRights04/03/15 11:42 PM
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I don't know if it's gendered or not, but it's really gross regardless.
/r/MensRights04/03/15 10:47 PM
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The number of people in that thread defending her actions as experimenting are fucking disgusting.
/r/MensRights04/03/15 09:32 PM
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I find it interesting, because I reacted almost entirely the opposite way. I completely avoid sex, rarely even watching porn. It always reminds me of what happened, disgusts and horrifies me. I've read that people often tend to one extreme or another, hypersexualization or avoidance of it.
/r/MensRights12/02/15 10:11 PM
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In my experience Okay, but my own experience (and out of curiosity I asked a few friends) is entirely opposite. Do you really think that men completely don't care what they look like? Even if not to the degree of women, it seems weird to think that men don't care at all what they look like.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 12:47 AM
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There's a difference between joking about fucked up things, and the punch line of a joke about a rape victim being "they totally enjoyed it". Not even like Colbert, where it would be satirical, just straight up "he enjoyed being gang raped". He should be legally allowed to say it, but it's fucked up and is more evidence that he's a shitty person. And it's not the first time he's said something like this.
/r/MensRights31/01/15 04:48 PM
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or are you a weak POS who's just gonna take it, smile and apologise again? Your insecurities are showing. Why do you feel the need to repeatedly insult this guy for not reporting what happened?
/r/MensRights19/01/15 02:14 AM
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I have no obligation to hear it Nobody gives a shit, you have no obligation to hear anything. Do you actually think reporting this to the police would have gotten anywhere? Women raped by men often get treated poorly by cops and have their cases go nowhere, let alone a guy in a situation like this. So you think that unless someone acted 100% logically they shouldn't be allowed to talk about what's happened to them? Fucking christ.
/r/MensRights16/01/15 12:02 AM
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A) He's been saying stuff like that forever. B) Jesus christ, for a sub concerned with false allegations that's a cartoonishly pathetic argument. That's not even circumstantial evidence, that's the linear progression of time evidence. Here's a conspiracy for you: 38/43 people who were elected US president have since died. Awfully suspicious, isn't it? But don't ask for any evidence or anything, I'm just asking questions. Some might say that asking rhetorical questions to lead people to conclusio…
/r/MensRights08/01/15 07:08 AM
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I think you responded to the wrong post, this isn't the one about the ad.
/r/MensRights06/11/14 01:31 AM
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Even from this short interaction I can rest assured that no one will ever rely on you emotionally.
/r/MensRights05/11/14 08:41 PM
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I can only hope no one in an abusive relationship asks you for help.
/r/MensRights05/11/14 08:08 PM
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...between consenting adults, not children and adults. Just because you want something doesn't mean that A) everyone wants it or B) it would be healthy if it actually happened to you.
/r/MensRights27/10/14 06:48 PM
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Well, yeah. The point is that without further context it could go either way, and it's silly to be outraged by something that could just as easily be against sexism.
/r/MensRights21/10/14 11:53 PM
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I mean if the cartoon was meant to demonstrate societal perception or something I could see it in that context, my history classes often showed xenophobic political cartoons and such to show how things were perceived at the time.
/r/MensRights21/10/14 09:14 PM
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Without further context the cartoon could be satirizing that mindset or the book could be using it as an example of sexism. If it's presented totally straight it's both messed up and weirdly unprofessional for a textbook.
/r/MensRights21/10/14 03:59 PM
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There's this really disgusting video where they admit grudging respect for a female rapist "she's got balls" among generally not taking it seriously. I'm not super familiar with their show, but that alone makes me not respect either of them.
/r/MensRights19/10/14 05:51 AM
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...the article addressed all those concerns. I was wondering if it worked on a minority of people who suffer from social stigmas and dysphoria, because this would do well to help them if it worked on them.
/r/MensRights05/10/14 06:57 PM
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Would this work on transgender men? This could be a huge step forward for them.
/r/MensRights05/10/14 06:44 PM
1

Not a single part of that comment isn't crazy. "men will spend generations as worker drones used only for breeding"- what the fuck?
/r/MensRights05/10/14 06:39 PM
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Yes, it's wrong. There are people who think shitty things along those lines, but lumping all "liberal women" and feminists together with the shitty ones is counterproductive. It ruins debates, and is responsible for the stupid gender wars that take place all the time. And it's not just mras do it, so do feminists, and it's stupid when they do it to. It's a common political tactic- calling people libtards or republicunts or whatever. It makes your side look childish, and at best appeals to a smal…
/r/MensRights30/09/14 06:29 PM
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This kind of strawman shit is stupid, makes mensrights look stupid, and gets no one anything other than a brief moment of smugness if you're the specific kind of useless it appeals to.
/r/MensRights30/09/14 06:15 PM
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Yeah, you were just being rude. I'm not familiar with that sub and their policies, but you certainly warranted downvotes. And regardless, this has literally nothing to do with men's rights. You were being annoying, people responded in a rather poorly thought out manner, you responded with some /r/atheism level debating and were banned. Who gives a shit.
/r/MensRights29/09/14 08:29 PM
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Jesus, that's horrific. I hope he's able to recover somewhat.
/r/MensRights29/09/14 01:58 PM
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Not sure if it's what you're looking for, but this is a list of examples of abuse of men not being taken seriously in various media. That's all female on male, I'm not aware of a similar list for male on male abuse. It's obviously not an academic source, so take all the analysis with a grain of salt, but if you're looking for movies or shows or whatever with examples there's plenty there.
/r/MensRights25/09/14 11:02 PM
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I feel like "two broken arms" wouldn't be as much of a joke if it was a girl and her dad. I'm not sure if I've ever seen anyone consider that abusive.
/r/MensRights22/09/14 01:01 AM
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It doesn't matter that he needed a heart transplant though, no one needs an excuse for not wanting sex. I get what you're saying though.
/r/MensRights19/09/14 02:21 PM
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Why do I always read them :/
/r/MensRights16/09/14 03:09 PM
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The matriarchy stuff? Sure, I'll give you that. But you can't say that gender roles around the world are always the same, there are a fair amount of differences.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 03:17 AM
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In an abusive relationship, you see the abuser and the victim as equally at fault?
/r/MensRights14/09/14 04:24 PM
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That is an astounding lack of knowledge about psychology, but I don't really want to get into this. Let's just agree to disagree, and hope that no one ever comes to you looking for a sympathetic ear.
/r/MensRights14/09/14 03:15 PM
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Holy shit, man. This is going to sound mean, but honest to god are you a robot or some form of alien in disguise? I understand if you can't reveal that, but it would make me feel a lot better. There is literally zero empathy or understanding of other human beings in your post. It's almost childish in a way, if it wasn't so creepy. Domestic abuse and relationships can become extremely complicated, and the abuser will often gaslight or use emotional abuse to twist the victim into staying. Many wom…
/r/MensRights14/09/14 02:20 PM
1

God the comments on that are disgusting. I really regret reading them...
/r/MensRights14/09/14 03:44 AM
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Except that gender roles vary a fair amount across culture and history. There are general similarities, but there are also cultures with multiple genders and even some that are matriarchies.
/r/MensRights12/09/14 11:17 PM
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emergent phenomena Can you explain what you mean? I googled it and I'm not following how it applies in this context.
/r/MensRights12/09/14 10:55 PM
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Okay thanks, I'd really appreciate that.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 01:37 PM
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Do you have a link? I've seen statistics about male rape victims not being taken seriously by psychologists, but not that
/r/MensRights11/09/14 01:03 PM
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I don't oppose the idea of gender roles so much as the enforcement of them, where if someone wants to do do something else it's stigmatized.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 09:33 PM
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Do you think gender roles are helpful then? To be honest I'm not really following your second point, as I'm just coming back from some long lectures and my brain is kinda dead. Could you rephrase it a bit? I understand that that's kind of a hassle, sorry.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 06:44 PM
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It's most commonly used by feminists, but according to this post it was coined by early MRA type activists[1] . That aside, the way I understand it is basically male gender roles being enforced in a negative way, like telling guys to "man up" when something bad happens, or shaming men in abusive relationships, discouraging men from seeking therapy, etc. It relates to MRA in that it's misandry and negatively affects men's mental health. I wouldn't say that MRAs necessarily disadvantage women, but…
/r/MensRights10/09/14 06:30 PM
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Well the men's rights movement is smaller, and newer, so there hasn't been as much time for the cream to rise to the top or whatever. Feminism is on, what, the third wave? It's more established, people know it's an option. The MRM is nascent, so at the moment there are some (at times serious) problems with sexism, especially toxic masculinity. I suppose I can't really substantiate the percentage, that's rather anecdotal. One thing to keep in mind is that whenever feminists get mentioned on here …
/r/MensRights10/09/14 06:02 PM
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Yes. There's a lot of shitty feminists, but there are a lot of shitty MRAs too (and honestly the percentage is probably higher). There are problems with feminism, obviously, the reliance on saying "but what about the mennn" or otherwise dismissive of male issues. I think gender roles are destructive and unhelpful, and in order to combat them you must do so from both sides. I think there's a lot more both groups can agree on. But they both rely on ridiculous strawmen and childish name calling tha…
/r/MensRights10/09/14 01:40 PM
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You legitimately see nothing wrong with calling abuse victims pussies That's fucked up, man.
/r/MensRights09/09/14 04:37 AM
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Wow that's really fucked up. Was there any backlash to that? I can't recall any, but I don't think I would have paid attention at that point.
/r/MensRights09/09/14 03:04 AM
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or at least sue her for making him look like a pussy. This kinda toxic masculinity garbage is getting old. Don't call abuse victims pussies, holy shit.
/r/MensRights09/09/14 02:12 AM
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Tiger Woods was assaulted by his wife and it was treated as deserved and hilarious.
/r/MensRights08/09/14 06:54 PM
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There are people in that thread getting support who've never told their story before, which is incredible. The first time I ever received support about my own sexual abuse was through a reddit thread, and I'm going to be honest, I cried. It's such a huge relief. And of course the awareness being raised is great too. Friends and family members of victims are also reading that, and maybe they'll remember that thread when someone comes to them needing help.
/r/MensRights28/08/14 03:24 AM
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Yeah, things like this do really hurt. I mean largely you get used to it, but every time I see it it's just a reminder of low the awareness is.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 10:46 PM
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I was actually pretty impressed with my orientation safety thing. It was almost entirely non-gendered , aside from when they went into specific examples. Really great on you for calling, OP. It really would not be hard to change the program to include male victims, and really I think things like this are largely due to ignorance.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 10:20 PM
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...hopefully they're just saying that out of the blue, and not in response to a rape victim. Horrible regardless, and rape victims have stumbled on it anyways, but having that kinda shit directed right at you is horrific.
/r/MensRights04/08/14 01:51 AM
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Yeah, like not to derail this or anything but goddamn do I dislike pop punk. It's not even a quality thing, I'm sure Blink 182 has good songwriting and a sense of fun, but I am pretty much incapable of listening to their music. Most of the punk I do listen to has a lot of pop in it anyways, the Ramones or Buzzcocks or The Clash, but something about the sound of pop-punk really makes me irrationally angry. I want to say it's the vocals, but the terribly compressed guitar sounds don't help. I feel…
/r/MensRights09/07/14 05:33 AM
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I pretty much hate pop punk but fuck it I'll buy the damn thing, this needs awareness more than I need $5. I've gone on about this on here before but male sexual abuse victims (and female sexual abuse victims too) are under-discussed and under-supported. Any kind of help for victims is a step in the right direction, in the abstract people can be empathetic but when it gets down to particulars that dries up quicker than you'd think. "Oh, you must have enjoyed it." "He'd never do that, he's a fami…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 06:01 PM
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Yes, that is trivializing rape. Having hooked up with someone previously doesn't guarantee future consent, what are we ignoring spousal and domestic rape? They decided to be friends, he forced himself on her, she said no. He stopped, then kept going (maybe building up the courage?) At that point she lied there, because this shit can be intimidating. Lying there and letting it happen because previously saying no was ignored =/= consent. That is absolutely rape, and did trivialize it by saying it …
/r/MensRights08/07/14 06:30 AM
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Um, there really shouldn't be any lynchings of people. Or drawing and quartering, that's not good either. Personally I believe the justice system should strive to be as far as possible from the ending of Braveheart.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 05:13 PM
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As a sort of related thing, when people do say things like that someone always bring up "yeah but what if she was like 300 lbs and really ugly" or something like that. I get what they're trying to do, trying to show those who don't understand a time when they wouldn't want to consent. But that doesn't really get to the core of the issue, that the attractiveness of a rapist is completely irrelevant. I think one way to fight it is through movies/tv shows. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main…
/r/MensRights06/07/14 07:52 PM
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I know what you're saying, but the attractiveness of the rapist shouldn't matter. Consent is earned, it can't just be assumed.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 08:55 PM
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It's almost good when man-shaped turds like Tucker Carlson say shit like that, because then it gets called out. Articles like this on Salon are great, it's spreading awareness about the issue, and also how much of a gaping-vaccuum-where-humanity-goes-to-die Tucker Carlson and Fox News are. Like all forms of sexism, it's actually sexism against both men and women- everyone thinks their teachers are hot. But for Tucker "I never wash my hands" Carlson, women are obviously little innocent children t…
/r/MensRights19/06/14 05:00 PM
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This attitude is bullshit, that men can't teach kids or shouldn't be allowed near them. It's bs for the obvious reasons, but the mindset that women can never sexually abuse gets leads to 86% of those abused by women not being believed by people they try to tell, and 65% not being believed by therapists. This doesn't even count people who were believed, but treated poorly "why does that bother you" "why didn't you like it". For me personally it's made it significantly harder to get help and move …
/r/MensRights18/06/14 07:40 PM
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Culture perpetuates itself, people were raised to belief that way and then raised their kids to believe that way, and so on. As an semi-related issue, the idea that only women can work with children because men are sexual predators really makes me mad. I was molested by a female day-care/pre-school teacher, and because of the mindset that women are never predators no one takes it seriously. This shit is incredibly sexist, towards men and women, and it's damaging. Guys that want to work with kids…
/r/MensRights11/06/14 09:19 PM
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"Mr Stan, a married father-of three, said that he has endured endless teasing since the attack. " This breaks my heart. People can be so shitty.
/r/MensRights12/04/14 06:11 PM
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