fruitylad Archive

Upvotes	Title	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
41	Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know	fruitylad	/r/askMRP	24/01/19 03:18 PM
38	Thanks MRP/ASKMRP, you fixed a man, and a marriage, although i no longer want the marriage.	fruitylad	/r/askMRP	21/01/20 09:46 AM
30	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know	fruitylad	/r/askMRP	25/01/19 12:26 PM
11	Telling me how to discipline kids	fruitylad	/r/askMRP	06/11/18 11:34 AM
4	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please	fruitylad	/r/askMRP	01/10/18 09:44 PM
1	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please.	fruitylad	/r/MarriedRedPill	01/10/18 01:15 PM

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0	Thanks MRP/ASKMRP, you fixed a man, and a marriage, although i no longer want the marriage. You can have all the RP knowledge in the world and still have a weak frame where you never internalize your time is your most valuable asset in life. This is at the heart of my internal debate. I realise time is so massively important, the debate is between whether playing it safe with the kids and their relationship to me is worth the time, and in the grand scheme of things i think it is for me. However this is at the heart of me taking up all my new activities/hobbies, aint getting younger and…	/r/askMRP	21/01/20 12:30 PM
3	Thanks MRP/ASKMRP, you fixed a man, and a marriage, although i no longer want the marriage. Point taken, i have a long way to go still, the path is long, but at least i feel like i know the path and have been walking it this last year.	/r/askMRP	21/01/20 12:26 PM
0	Thanks MRP/ASKMRP, you fixed a man, and a marriage, although i no longer want the marriage. You will always know that it’s broken and it will gnaw at you. Do you want to live another year like that? Your whole life? No, its a horrible permanent feeling that i know will never go away. I know it cant be fixed, it over and i know it. Im fine with that though, im not trying to fix it, I have come to terms with the fact i will end it in future. By only staying for the kids you are giving into fear. Not thought about it like that, but your correct in that im scared about how leaving now woul…	/r/askMRP	21/01/20 11:58 AM
2	Thanks MRP/ASKMRP, you fixed a man, and a marriage, although i no longer want the marriage. They are very happy little kids and the thought of tearing the family apart i just cant stomach. I will say though that i acknowledge its as much for me as it is for them. I have noticed since last year, when i look at other dads and how they are with their kids, i most probably do give them too much of my time, attention and do too much for them. I appreciate its not necessary in order to have a good relationship with them, but to me its not optimal, my influence is less, and there is a risk th…	/r/askMRP	21/01/20 11:49 AM
3	Thanks MRP/ASKMRP, you fixed a man, and a marriage, although i no longer want the marriage. I know the theory, but am not very good as dont have much experience. The wife was the first girl who was completely into me, so I went all in as i had a scarcity mindset after years on incel, so my game practice stopped there. I chose a hooker again as its minimal risk of getting caught, and i wanted to keep things going for the kids.	/r/askMRP	21/01/20 11:36 AM
2	Being strong makes her wet (FR) Similar experience here. Im very short at 5'0, weight 125 lb, can now squat 194 lb for 3x5 due to 5 months on stronglifts. I was messing with the wife and squatted her a few of times whilst playing around and a few days later she slipped into conversation with a friend i could squat her. When i was out in a nightclub a few years back a small skinny girl was dancing in my direction so i danced with her, and when we were stood side by side I put an arm round her waist and lifted her, she looked at…	/r/askMRP	03/05/19 09:28 AM
3	My First MRP Post: Married for 4 years and considering a divorce, possible infidelity This is more alarming than anything else you said, a step past ILYBINILWY. Thats was my thought, she has basically said point blank she isnt in love with him. My wife would say 'we have nothing in common anymore' quite a bit before she had an affair. I dont know whether the OP's wife cheated or not, but sounds like she definitely will if OP doesnt improve and regain his wife attraction.	/r/askMRP	28/03/19 10:01 AM
2	Moving to a new location, no gym at new location so I'm going to make my own. Yup, i did this, im doing stronglifts 5x5, total cost of power rack, bench, barbell and weights, about £180. Thats all you need to make a good start.	/r/askMRP	01/03/19 12:09 PM
12	What does DEER mean? Defend, Explain Excuse Rationalize. Comes from the book no more mr nice guy	/r/askMRP	13/02/19 08:52 AM
1	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know Thanks for this, I read your posts on dread and it really got me moving after I got the ILYBNILWY speach. I do want to blame myself so i can accept responsibility, do better and fix it. Thats my real underlying thought, that and the kids. Each day that passes im more comfortable though with the idea of blowing it all up, kicking her out and letting the chips fall as they may. As you say, its a requirement if she is ever going to be attracted to me again, and its probably not worth it anyway. I c…	/r/askMRP	29/01/19 10:21 AM
1	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know It was in the text message export i got from her phone, he didnt want to leave his kids and my wife was telling her sister she though her AP's wife would leave after xmas as she knew what was going on. Later on though its clear she took him back.	/r/askMRP	28/01/19 01:31 PM
1	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know She already found out a while before it ended, she took him back	/r/askMRP	28/01/19 11:41 AM
1	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know I didnt say anywhere here, but the guys wife already knows, and know for a while before it ended, she took him back.	/r/askMRP	28/01/19 11:34 AM
2	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know Now that he has blown that shit up, he may as well enjoy the ride that Chad got while she is feeling guilty and afraid of losing her plough horse. Fucked her last night, as you say, got her to BJ me, hasnt dont that in years and wear lingerie that i like, again, usually wont. Im going to enjoy her guilt before it fades. Im getting more comfortable about leaving as each day passes, again as said before, although i hate hearing this stuff from everyone here, i know your right, ive read it all befo…	/r/askMRP	28/01/19 11:29 AM
0	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know Sad thing is, i know this, ive read others say this many times, fuck, its obvious that will happen really.	/r/askMRP	25/01/19 05:00 PM
1	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know Thanks, im going to get a clear picture in my head as to what to do, think every detail over 10 times in the next week, write it down and stick to it 100%	/r/askMRP	25/01/19 04:58 PM
2	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know Never considered that, shit, as i didnt suspect she was cheating back then and my prior red pill knowledge was well out of my mind	/r/askMRP	25/01/19 04:52 PM
2	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know Im currently doing stronglifts 5x5, enjoying it. Kills me that i really believe if i started reading sidebar, lifting passing shit tests a year ago, she never would have done it. I blame myself in a way for not being a worthy man.	/r/askMRP	25/01/19 04:30 PM
0	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know Appreciate this man, since the ILYBNILWY speach i have been reading sidebar, lifting, dressing better and the wife has responded positively big time, this in a way doesnt help me leave as i cant help but think things would continue to get better and she wouldn't leave me until i wanted to leave her. Your probably right though, im blowing things out of proportion, the thought of my little daughter calling to me at night and me not being there eats away at me, i do absolutely everything when it co…	/r/askMRP	25/01/19 04:08 PM
1	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know Going to fuck her tonight, im a mess, going to just read every comment on here 5 times over the next few days and let it all sink in, and be 100% clear on what im going to do.	/r/askMRP	25/01/19 03:51 PM
0	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know I didnt think of it that way, i was thinking i want to hide it so she doesn't leave me, that way i get to leave when i have found someone and im ready	/r/askMRP	25/01/19 03:27 PM
1	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know Honestly, your wife looks more like she is trying to sweep her affair under the rug I think that is what she is doing, so im sure she will cheat again when the chance comes up and play i love you im sorry until then. I just think i benefit from staying before then by seeing the kids every day, getting sex from her and also sleeping with other women without her knowing until i pull the trigger and leave if that happens before she leaves me. I have no intention of ever fixing thing with her long t…	/r/askMRP	25/01/19 03:16 PM
0	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know No, i wont for a while, but when i do it'll be as i want it.	/r/askMRP	25/01/19 03:09 PM
-7	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know Thats why it hurts the most, because everyone here calling me a faggot piece of shit is right, i know i should leave, i know she will do it again, her words are just bullshit. But despite that im struggling because in my mind playing along and being with the kids 7 days a week maybe worth it. I also struggle as i dont fancy my chances on the dating market that much based on past history. I know, no abundance mindset etc, i know the theory very well, just dont have the real world experience.	/r/askMRP	25/01/19 03:06 PM
0	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know But I think you just want to go back to the way things were and forget the vision of Chad’s cum dripping out of your wife’s sloppy little post kid pussy after he pounded it good with a bigger dick than yours... That statement is the one that hurts the most of everything here. That is what i really want, but know it cant happen, i just feel like if i stay i can get the benefit of seeing my kids everyday and still date other women as i would do if i ended it.	/r/askMRP	25/01/19 02:08 PM
1	Update: Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know Im in the UK, I told her i'll give her another chance is just to keep her thinking im still committed to her until im ready to leave, as i 100% will do at some point	/r/askMRP	25/01/19 02:02 PM
0	Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know Surely its possible to regain her attraction to you, after shes cheated, after this she will be very much in my frame. I imagine its possible but completely and utterly not worth the effort.	/r/askMRP	25/01/19 11:57 AM
1	Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know PM if you want to chat with someone who's been in your shoes Thanks man, my head literally hurts, been married 9 years now, together 12. How involved are you in the kids' day to day lives? Im hugely involved in the kids lives every day, i do much more that she does, much more. I do just worry though about the huge one sidedness of the divorce courts. but know that the endgame is now divorce since the trust has been decisively broken. Absolutely, i will never try to repair things and stay long te…	/r/askMRP	24/01/19 04:38 PM
-1	Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know Thats the main danger in trying to keep it going, she just keep cheating until she branch swings when she decides. That does buy me some more time though and i might be able to stop her doing that if i keep getting buff and improving.	/r/askMRP	24/01/19 04:32 PM
2	Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know Luckily im 99% sure they are as im very short and both the kids have had growth difficulties and have been monitored as i was as a child	/r/askMRP	24/01/19 04:21 PM
6	Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know Actually the fact you suspected, checked, found out and didn't say anything means you've checked out also. There is no saving it. True, i have been mentally check out for a while to an extent. I dont want to save it though, just make it last long enough to still be the major parent in raising them on a day to day basis until their older. Fuck man, she was willing to not only fuck up her family and kids for another guy, but willing to screw over his family too. He broke it off, not her. Yeah, t…	/r/askMRP	24/01/19 04:16 PM
-1	Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know The only other option is to open the marriage and start swinging. That was my other thought, i could confront her and say for me to stay things need to be open, and get her to help bring me pussy via the swinging scene. Hard though as the kids are young and going out together during evenings isnt easy to arrange. Also she would probably get a load of cock very quick and i would find getting pussy much harder, which hurts her desire to stay with me any more, so i would be better off just leaving.…	/r/askMRP	24/01/19 04:13 PM
-6	Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know her already low level of respect for you will not increase now that she knows that you know. This is why i havent said anything to her yet, if i say anything and want to stay for the kids, she will never respect me ever again and cheat again at some point. At least if she doesn't know i know, then there is a chance i can rebuild some respect as i improve, have things be good for a while then dump her ass in future. She has been acting very nice to me since she caught me with her phone, so she is…	/r/askMRP	24/01/19 04:06 PM
13	Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know It will NEVER be what you wish it was. This is what kills me inside, i just want back the family as it was, but no matter what happens, it can never be that way again.	/r/askMRP	24/01/19 04:02 PM
-6	Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know I think i can live like this and be happy though, putting it to the back of my mind until the future. I get it though. probably wont work.	/r/askMRP	24/01/19 04:00 PM
5	Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know She text her sister saying its officially over, but your right doesnt mean it actually is. Damn, didn't think of that.	/r/askMRP	24/01/19 03:59 PM
6	Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know This is the main reason why staying for a while might not work, its having that in the back of your head all the time, and whether you can let it go for the time being enough to live normally until a time in the future.	/r/askMRP	24/01/19 03:57 PM
23	Discovered wife has had an affair, have kids, she doesn't know that i know Yeah, im just staying silent until i calm down and can think logically about all this.	/r/askMRP	24/01/19 03:55 PM
1	How to move on from shattered ego. PS went to a therapist once in my life and it was worthless. I went to a therapist once about my lack of ability to get a girlfriend when i was younger. I was told by someone in the RSD forums a mainstream therapist would only help by getting you angry about the fact they wont actually help, which might give you some drive to fix yourself. They were right, the therapist just tried to re-frame all my problems, trying to redefine what was normal and healthy and that were all different etc etc. Tot…	/r/askMRP	03/12/18 10:55 AM
1	Displays of high value (DHV) vs. displays of low value (DLV) in LTR or marriage Your definitely right that competency and value are not the same thing, you can be a very competent video game player, but that wont help your value. items in the DHV list are what I would call "necessary but insufficient". This is a very good way of looking at it, and you nail it when you said you could do everything on the list and still have your wife at the centre of your universe, eg be a very supplicating beta. My original comment was just trying to highlight that the DHV list was in gener…	/r/askMRP	30/11/18 10:14 AM
1	Displays of high value (DHV) vs. displays of low value (DLV) in LTR or marriage https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/308j0b/how_to_lead_a_wife_that_doesnt_let_you/	/r/askMRP	29/11/18 01:31 PM
2	Displays of high value (DHV) vs. displays of low value (DLV) in LTR or marriage When you look at the OPs list you will notice the DHVs are examples of where he is being competent and leading, this is what makes them DHVs. Being able to navigate the world with ease, whether its keeping your health/fitness in order, the finances sorted, sorting out problems with family members, the house etc and calling out bullshit when you see it is all part of showing you have your shit handled and you can deal with problems in the world. This demonstrates directly you need nobody to get o…	/r/askMRP	29/11/18 11:38 AM
2	Period This is how i see things, she only does this to you because she knows she can be a bitch to you and you will accept it without any consequence to her. This applies to other situations as well, for example when my wife is going mental at me for some stupid reason and her sister turns up at the door she magically stops. If were on the way to her parents house and in the car she moody at me for something, the instant we get there shes fine. She doesn't want her parents or sister to see her acting l…	/r/askMRP	19/11/18 09:36 AM
1	Telling me how to discipline kids I meant its my mentality with the bit that said if i started the discipline its entirely up to me to see it through, hence why its particularly annoying for her to interrupt as she does, and why it feels right to ignore her for doing so. The bit where UEMcGill says he has earned the right to overrule due to years of strong leadership, of course is what i dont have and aspire to get by getting good at leading well now and long into the future.	/r/askMRP	08/11/18 08:50 AM
1	Telling me how to discipline kids Plus, showing your wife you have the parenting thing on lock is great for her sense of dread/admiration of you. I dont know how true in general this is but i definitely get the feeling that each time she sees me dealing with the kids and everything stays calm and all troubles are dealt with, i get double points from her so to speak. Not sure if this is just something thats specific to her or true in general.	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 03:34 PM
1	Telling me how to discipline kids Yes, i meant talk to her to tell her whats acceptable and whats not, eg establishing a boundary . Must be careful with words here when talking RP as the meaning can completely change by not being precise enough.	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 01:37 PM
1	Telling me how to discipline kids I remember somewhere reading something similar which i totally agree with. They said telling you kid to stop crying or shouting to get them to stop feels to a kid like invalidating their perfectly valid emotions. Any emotion they have as a young human growing up being is valid, and you should instead show them you understand and its ok to feel like that, but hey, look how we can get over it, think about it like this or later this will happen and it will be ok etc That feels like common sense to …	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 11:47 AM
1	Telling me how to discipline kids Thats why i think ignoring their bad behaviour usually works, once they see its getting them nowhere, they stop of their own accord.	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 11:38 AM
1	Telling me how to discipline kids If you teach them to be cool they are going to have an easier time in life This is always my concern, social skills are mega important to life, more so than their grades in school if you ask me, so my goal is always to show them how to interact with people and have fun in life. Funny thing is the kids always come to me for everything first rather than her so they dont crawl over her all the time, shes used to me looking after them, which is how i prefer it. She has an everything is just too much…	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 11:36 AM
1	Telling me how to discipline kids eg man up to the wife	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 11:30 AM
1	Telling me how to discipline kids take control of the situation and hold fast to your own standards This has to be the right thing to do, get a clear sense of whats right and do it regardless of the wife, ignoring as appropriate. As i said above, my gut feeling is as i move from lower smv disrespected husband to higher smv, strong frame, leader, physically buff husband she will trust in my leadership more and cut it out naturally as time goes on.	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 11:28 AM
1	Telling me how to discipline kids I will check it out, thanks.	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 11:19 AM
1	Telling me how to discipline kids There is an exact parallel there isnt there, kids test to see what they can get away with and which boundaries are real, which is exactly what a shit test is at its heart.	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 11:19 AM
1	Telling me how to discipline kids do whatever you think is best. This is such a big part of the picture for me coming back and refreshing myself with red pill ideas. I think rollo tomassi puts it best when her says make yourself your mental point of origin. So much is wrapped up in that statement, but it critical as a man to do this so you can truly use you knowledge and wisdom to determine what YOU think is best.	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 11:16 AM
1	Telling me how to discipline kids Subconsciously this is my mentality, if i started the discipline its all up to me from then on, that's why it feels right to ignore her. I have said when she does it dont interfere, but she continues on. Maybe a talk when all is calm would be a good idea like you suggest.	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 11:11 AM
1	Telling me how to discipline kids I will check out super nanny, thanks	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 11:03 AM
1	Telling me how to discipline kids setting an example of how to appropriately deal with others Thinking about it, i think this maybe where the wife and i disagree. To her the only goal is the stop the immediate behaviour, and a good shout, put them in their room, threat to take things away often works, she even put her finger in my daughters mouth the other day when she was crying, i asked what was she doing, she said it works to stop her crying, I told her never do that again. My main concern is always longer term, showing them …	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 10:46 AM
1	Telling me how to discipline kids Does this seem backwards to a typical mother father kid dynamic? Because to me it most certainly does. Yeah it does, which is why i question myself a little, i think i might be a little harsher but only a little. Overall i think the best option as you say her is to ignore as best as you can and remain emotionally unperturbed. Seems weird on the surface but is so funny how women quickly reward dominant behaviour, with you it was at the door. The other day my wife asked me to go to the shop for he…	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 10:34 AM
3	Telling me how to discipline kids Its logical though, leadership is about other people, and of all the people in your life that you should be leading and have respect from, its going to be the kids, as they are much younger, less developed and by default under your control. My wife definitely sees any problems with the kids as my responsibility and so if the kids arent meeting her expectations, regardless of how arbitrary,, wrong or unrealistic they are, your going to lose attraction points in her eyes.	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 10:24 AM
1	Telling me how to discipline kids yelling as assertion Im hoping as with my above comment, as i become more attractive with sidebar and lifting, she will just begin to follow my lead on things with the kids and the problem will slowly correct itself over time	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 10:08 AM
2	Telling me how to discipline kids She wants it rough from a dominate man. - why she’s telling you to be more assertive with the kids. Talking about herself. I had not considered this but it makes a lot of sense. I have been a lot more physical and dgaf with her recently, its part of the changes ive made during the turn around in things. It would make sense then that if im consistent with being the dominant man she wants, she should naturally over time lower her feeling of need to complain about my handling of the kids as she wou…	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 10:00 AM
2	Telling me how to discipline kids She is directing her frustration at the kids behavior at you. Obviously if the kid is misbehaving that is on the parents and it is much easier for the Hamster to simply attack the man. It is what they do naturally anyway. This is EXACTLY what i think is going on. As you say i can ignore her and have been trying this as best as i can. It reminds me of post i read recently about women tending to shit test more when your already under pressure, as its the best time to test frame and leadership, so …	/r/askMRP	07/11/18 09:48 AM
4	Telling me how to discipline kids This is really good as i think it suits my general style and personality, thanks, will definitely be trying the daddy hug next time.	/r/askMRP	06/11/18 12:29 PM
2	Telling me how to discipline kids They are 3 and 6, yes ive stopped DEERing but it makes an already difficult situation harder as not only is the kid throwing a tantrum, shes getting pissy at me at the same time. I cant stop her doing it though. I appreciate its hard to convey the exact situation over a post, but i think your probably right though in that i should be manning up to her rather that the kids. Maybe a bit of both.	/r/askMRP	06/11/18 12:00 PM
3	Odd test from my wife I've found its never a good idea to bring up any RP stuff to the wife, ever. Doesn't matter that it may be about other people, she is BP conditioned too, so whether she knows there is truth in what you are saying, or is consciously unaware again doesn't matter because your not painting HER in a good light by suggesting women arent perfect, regardless of who your talking about, or what the situation is. She will always side with other women due to her BP conditioning and take an ego hit due to th…	/r/askMRP	05/11/18 11:43 AM
1	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please The idea is NOT to (necessarily) lose the kind, compassionate, considerate behaviors. Kindness is ALPHA! This is most definitely true and worth pointing out, i think for me im always in danger of being too accommodating. Thats what beta from an alpha frame feels like to me. Examples : Being too accommodating to the kids when they dont want to do something, giving them too many chances, or too accommodating to the wife. allowing her to talk badly to me when shes in a bad mood, etc or just saying …	/r/askMRP	08/10/18 08:45 AM
1	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please It might just be semantics here, but the advise was to date her, talk to her more etc, eg building connection stuff as well as self improvement stuff. I initially missed that and just thought work on attraction, eg self improvement stuff like passing shit tests, leading, lifting. You pointed out i missed the connection stuff, so I then said ok great, as well as those self improvement things, i need to do the connections stuff as well. As im coming from the career beta side of life, i initially p…	/r/askMRP	05/10/18 11:16 AM
24	Can someone explain to me the reference about loading the dish washer? She doesn't actually care about you loading the dishwasher wrong, even though shes complaining about it. Shes really just expressing a general negative emotion, which can be due to anything but often because of dissatisfaction with you and the relationship. Men think more logically and directly, meaning they assume the wife is unhappy about loading the dishwasher because thats what shes saying, but women use language differently, to a woman she will complain about all sorts of crap she dont real…	/r/askMRP	04/10/18 03:17 PM
2	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please Thanks, as said above, i almost missed this advise and needed someone to highlight this important bit.	/r/askMRP	04/10/18 08:03 AM
1	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please Thanks for this, the advise almost passed me by. I've been reading, concentrating on passing shit tests and holding frame, working out, and planning family activities on the weekends. all solid apha stuff. Working on connection almost feels like a bad move because in my mind its a lot more beta type behaviour, however it greatly depends on how you do it. If you lead her when doing dinner, drinks and what you do in alone time its not beta and comes across differently, whilst building that all so …	/r/askMRP	04/10/18 08:01 AM
3	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please I think thats something we have to bear in mind, it took so long to decline and go sour, and a womans perception of you is a fairly stable thing in a relationship, so its going to take a while to build back up. When he alarm bells go off its easy to want to read every book in a day, get 20 gym sessions in on day 2 and go mad on everything and do it all at once, but realistically you need to be measured, make a start and just keep moving a bit every day, knowing its going to be a long road back.	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 09:30 PM
2	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please Another way I look at it: Do I want my sons and daughters to grow up watching Mom act this way towards Dad? Do you realize it is this example they will follow in their own romantic lives? I hadnt considered this, but your right, if i dont act and show the way a man and family should be, then what are they learning. Things need to change for their benefit as well.	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 09:14 PM
2	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please Yes, that is by far my biggest concern. the rest, her, the house etc i really am willing to lose. As i replied above though, maybe 470_2_700_nm has a really good point, the kids seeing dad not acting like a real man isnt a good thing either.	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 09:12 PM
1	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please Looked up the light switch effect thanks, i can imagine its common. ILYBNILWY is seriously bad according to MMSLP and indeed he says usually it comes about due to another guy entering the picture, giving her the concious thought of ILYBNILWY . I dont think this is the case though as ive not seen any indication of it, but who knows. Shes still acting very normal in the relatioship though, and as described above much better since my recent changes. Also she talking about future stuff and holiday w…	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 09:05 PM
2	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please Ok thanks, back to square one then, work on the attraction. Thanks	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 08:55 PM
2	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please why the hell would you forcing yourself sexually on her gain any traction I was thinking shes always responded very well to being dominated in the bedroom, so i figured a few rough sessions, spanking, moving her around, hair pulling etc might help remind her of the dominate man i can have been in the past. Thanks for the advise though, backing right off and just working on being more attractive has to be the way to go for now.	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 08:51 PM
2	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please I understand what you saying, without coming from a place of being free from fear, willing to lose it all, you will always struggle to act properly.	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 10:46 AM
1	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please I honestly think due to the improvements in her attitude and her display of interest towards me recently she isn't lost, but f*ck it, time to get in the best shape ive ever been in. there is a university down the road, cant be too expensive to sign up. Thanks man.	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 10:21 AM
2	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please Its down to the money, but i take your point square on, i need to go at this properly, no messing around.	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 09:46 AM
2	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please lol, i just realised ILYBNILWY is the dreaded line from MMSLP, not another book.!!!!!	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 09:43 AM
2	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please I understand all the comments so far, thanks for the reminders and suggested reading. I totally understand i need increase my SMV via all the various means as being the prime objective above all else. To the original question though, sounds like a reduce the sex advances and just increase SMV is the order of the day, with the idea that the increase SMV will make her more receptive and the kissing problem should resolve itself if all goes well.	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 08:48 AM
1	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please The hamster was saying she was so into you for the first few years, (lots of comfort tests and saying i think i love you more than you love me and stuff like that), that things could never go south like this. So i focused on nothing but the kids and gardening in the back garden, with the hamster always just saying she will always be there, no further thought required. My timeline is I was a blue pill moron, got nowhere, found RSD, red pill, quickly got some successes, got my wife, went out of my…	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 08:40 AM
0	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please None of this works unless you’re willing to burn it all to the ground. You’ve just said you’re not willing to do that. Yes, as horrible a thought of sharing the kids is and not living under the same roof, i need to be ok with it, or it;ll undermine my efforts. I started some callisthenics 2 weeks ago, im going to pick up some free weights this week. My body fat is about 15%, close to 6 pack territory and im average muscle size wise. Not sure whether to concentrate on the 6 pack or building muscl…	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 08:18 AM
2	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please Thanks, i will check out ILYBNILWY , already read MMSLP	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 08:12 AM
2	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please The super bad news is you should know all of this Im ashamed of myself as i really do, i got very complacent and didn't listen to the warning signs. Your definitely right though, she has to feel that im ok with leaving otherwise underneath the changes, she knows deep down she always holds the ace card.	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 08:11 AM
2	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please Game her, tease her, slap her ass. Independent of the outcome. Nothing she says/does/feelz affects you. You are a man on a mission. Get your ass out of her frame. This is whats made the difference so far, im a pretty happy optimistic guy and i find it pretty easy to stay in my frame. Shit tests are fairly easily batted away as i dont get bogged down because of this. Ive read MMSLP, all stuff i already knew but its more practical than say way of the superior man, david dieda. I shall read NMMNG a…	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 08:05 AM
1	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please When i said I desperately dont want to lose her, i meant because of the kids, if we didn't have kids i really wouldn't be that worried if she left. The kids mean everything to me so i want to keep the family going so im still fully in their life every day.	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 08:02 AM
3	Big dread game improvement but kissing is a problem, advise please So you've sat on your ass and done nothing - but read and internalize - for ten years? And now you want to salvage it all fast and furious-like? I cant believe ive let things get to this point, the change was pretty quick though, from all ok to dire in 2 years, still though, i was always just focusing on surviving the baby years. She was always tired as she needs more sleep than me, so i ended up doing pretty much everything which definitely contributed to the downhill slide.	/r/askMRP	02/10/18 07:59 AM