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Sorry to hear that bro. I've been there too. It gets better with time so hang in there.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/02/19 09:26 PM
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So are you ready to stop paying?
/r/PussyPassDenied01/02/19 08:21 PM
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so this was more of a learning experience rather than a lifestyle that you would continue forever? edit: just read the thread and wow that escalated quickly.
/r/TheRedPill07/05/13 03:06 AM
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i don't put that much effort into finding food. for myself, i just go to the shop a couple of times a week. the whole experience probably takes about 2 hours a week. if i was hunting my own game it would probably take longer but the research i've seen suggests that most people living the traditional lifestyle can get food, build houses and take care of all tasks in about 3 or 4 hours a day. humans are mostly sedentary. we're designed to chillax because we're apex predators. just like how lions m…
/r/TheRedPill07/05/13 03:04 AM
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serious question. what drives a man to put that much effort into meeting women? that's a lot of time invested.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/13 02:56 PM
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oh i always do the helicopter bro. romantic as. seriously though, i dig romance and old school cool but i keep it for girls i'm serious about.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/13 01:37 PM
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fair enough.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/13 01:32 AM
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i lift them as many times as i need to. could be any number but it's always as much exercise as hard as we can go. i wrestle mostly guys my size but i don't bench anywhere near that 275-350 pound range anyway. that would be approaching double my bodyweight. is your point mainly that weights are a controlled variable? i may start lifting again. the thing is, to make any gains you need recovery time. since i'm training so much, i'm already using my recovery. the body has a limited amount of healin…
/r/TheRedPill05/05/13 02:14 PM
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let me play devil's advocate a bit here, i want to understand this better. what's the difference between doing a bench press and lifting a guy off my chest when i'm lying down? it is the same movement with the arms. the weight is still there (i'm talking about a guy my weight or heavier). if anything the intensity is higher because i have to do it quick before he gets a hold of my neck. squats are different. you can do them with a guy on your shoulders but it doesn't happen often in jiu jitsu. i…
/r/TheRedPill05/05/13 01:38 PM
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it's done now but i would play it super cool. you're taking the lazy path and that usually ends badly. better to find new girls. sure chat with the ex if you must but don't try to meet up with her. at most, friend zone her and let her help you meet other girls.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/13 12:48 PM
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you did fine. one question, why did you agree to go inside and get a drink with her if you didn't want to? seems to me that she pushed for it and you just went along. i wonder what would have happened if you had said 'i'm good, you go get one and catch up with me later.' hindsight is 20/20 i know, just playing hypotheticals.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/13 10:36 AM
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they call jiu jitsu the 'art suave' bro, i only go as hard as i need to to win.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/13 09:32 AM
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i do allk these things except lift heavy. does anyone know if fighting counts instead? i train jiu jitsu everyday. i might add in some lifting but i kind of need my recovery time at the moment because training is pretty intense.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/13 09:08 AM
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i totally disagree that masculinity is met with derision. women love masculine men, they seek them out and treasure them. men love to be around masculine guys too. they make good friends and good leaders.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/13 03:15 PM
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this guy gets it. the most alpha teachers i ever had where the ones who had the strength to be cool. kids will test you. just have a plan and execute it and stay cool the whole time. same with the other teachers. no need to be the boss when you're the new guy. just be cool and do a great job. ultimately they will be forced to recognise your good work and the way that nothing bothers you.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/13 02:06 AM
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doctors are also harsher with skateboarders who come in with injuries. basically it pisses them off when people hurt themselves by being stupid.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/13 02:32 AM
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i checked the link. you're looking at around 5000 plus airfare. to hang out with some prostitutes and some fat tourists who can't get laid. for the same money, you could pick up some fun college girls, have the wildest weekend of your life, rent a ferrari, do all the drugs, go to all the clubs and have your best friends with you. not saying don't do it, just if i was in your shoes i'd spend that money differently.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/13 10:30 AM
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business connections are worth plenty. i say take the honourable path because you'll feel better about yourself. there's plenty of women in the world, no need to lower your standards.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/13 03:31 AM
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i like fighting too. i've trained boxing, judo, wrestling and now bjj. when guys talk about building confidence, fighting is a great way to do it.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/13 12:42 PM
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As someone who grew up with a stepdad, don't do it. it's not worth it. best case scenario, you're paying to raise another mans child. worst case, you're living with someone who hates you. why not just date a girl who doesn't have a kid?
/r/TheRedPill26/04/13 04:29 AM
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yep. it's lifting weights for your mind.
/r/TheRedPill26/04/13 02:26 AM
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i'm glad you're asking yourself this question. so many of the posts in here just focus on pleasuring the senses, which is ultimately empty. there's more to being a man than just trying to get people to touch your penis. things like mastery of the self. exploring the universe, inside and outside. creating something meaningful. these guys had some interesting ideas, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism
/r/TheRedPill25/04/13 11:44 AM
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that's an expensive one night stand.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/13 11:59 PM
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Narcissism 8.1 Machiavellianism 8.5 Psychopathy 5.2 Years of meditation and buddhism. No wonder this board seems to lack compassion to me. I'm all for seeing the world as it is. I guess we just interpret the facts differently.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/13 12:50 PM
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if your dad doesn't have a beard, you've got two mums
/r/TheRedPill16/04/13 11:07 AM
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she's projecting her negativity about herself onto the other to protect her ego. it happens quite a lot here too. it's a pretty common human strategy.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/13 11:30 PM
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so, i should take my shirt off, look away from the camera and hold a puppy. also, it doesn't matter if the photo shows my face. good to know.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/13 11:14 PM
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he shouldn't have shoved you but when he did you had a chance to show how much it didn't bother you. it did bother you and so the situation escalated. putting your hand on the girl's face, however gently, is not cool. can you imagine james bond putting his hand on a girl's face? so not suave. another way you could have played it; the guy tells you to creep on someone else, you instantly make eye contact with the girl to see how she feels. smile at her a little. if she smiles back you're doing ok…
/r/seduction29/10/12 05:37 AM
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2 words. pimp limp.
/r/seduction11/03/12 11:11 PM
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cool. i had to really work to learn body language and social skills because for a long time i just didn't care. i was doing other things. hopefully my experience will be of some use to someone. what does look softly mean? well, you know the look you give someone when you are about to punch them in the face? hard and scary? not that look. the opposite of that. basically you will be within arms distance to her (which is pretty close). you will have your face tilted more downwards than upwards and …
/r/seduction28/01/12 07:57 AM
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that's cool, we all start from the beginning. seriously, look into her eyes softly without talking. you know what i mean, you've seen it in movies. eye contact is powerful stuff and she will definitely feel it. if she looks back, you're good. if she breaks off and makes a reason to go away, no big deal. the way it goes is, every time you try something, you need to wait and see if she likes it. if she does, go a little further. if she doesn't then stop. sometimes, when it's clear that she likes i…
/r/seduction28/01/12 01:40 AM
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i hear you. i didn't really attract her though. a mutual friend asked me to show her around sydney. so since she was right there i thought why not? you're right though, it is a waste of time either way.
/r/seduction26/01/12 09:02 PM
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wow. i don't really think a sexless 12 year old should be ramping up sexual tension. if you really feel 12, i reckon just look in her eyes softly and maybe try to hold her hand from time to time. if she looks into your eyes softly and lets you hold her hand, she likes you.
/r/seduction26/01/12 08:35 PM
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i wrote a longer response to this and then i lost it. i'm going to just say, yeah me too. japanese culture. that's why i don't see long term potential, among other reasons.
/r/seduction26/01/12 08:31 PM
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haha, good morning hostility :) don't watch the lingo, it's there as a shorthand. i am being honest mate. how good is your japanese? mine's a bit rusty but i get by. if she spoke english this situation would go down differently and there'd be a whole lot more communication. maybe that's the reason i needed to talk to the internet about it. i'll be honest with you instead, ok? i'd quite like to bang this lady. i don't see us having a relationship but we have hung out together plenty of times and …
/r/seduction26/01/12 08:19 PM
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man, i don't mess around with girls in relationships. i know some guys do. like they say, if she cheats on him she will cheat on you. it's ok if you are just looking for the hookup. having said that, if you really like her and you think she likes you then just ramp up the sexual tension as much as you can without crossing the line. it'll be a fun challenge. she'll give you the signal if you should go ahead.
/r/seduction26/01/12 07:00 AM
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you don't have to dignify every stupid comment someone makes with a reply. the other day i picked up a girl (she kissed me first so i would tell her that she tried to pick me up). anyway we were really high and when we got to her room there was no way i was getting a boner. she reached for my cock and goes 'ooh it's small'. i ignored it but i was thinking 'wow, that's a pretty lame come on'. anyway for whatever reason (i don't need a hard cock to make a girl have some fun) she wanted to see me a…
/r/seduction26/01/12 04:13 AM
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seduction can work for girls but you need to study what guys like the same way we study what girls like. if guys aren't hitting on you it's one of two things. a) you are locked in a room that no one can get into or 2) you could stand to get hotter. sorry to be brutal but there it is. eat right, hit the gym and improve your inner game. if guys are hitting on you but not the ones you want, change the places you hang out and change the way you feel about yourself. both of these are easier to change…
/r/seduction26/01/12 04:03 AM
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when she says she is going to go, you have to push her in that direction. then she'll want to stay. her: i'm going to go home. you: yeah you should go. otherwise anything could happen. *kino her: mmm i'll stay a bit more. no i really should go home you: yep. i'm kicking you out. i won't be responsible for my actions if you stay *give her a push her: what?! you're kicking me out? you're such an asshole. *cuddles you push verbally and pull with attraction. never grab at her. give her soft little p…
/r/seduction26/01/12 03:55 AM
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sure, if there's a context where it might just have jumped into your mind it could work.
/r/seduction26/01/12 03:27 AM
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it sounds off to me. the subtext is 'i want to fuck you but i haven't made it happen and i'm putting the responsibility onto you'.
/r/seduction26/01/12 02:45 AM
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i just read all the responses in this post. a couple of people were telling you not to treat girls as numbers and to not try to push interactions that feel empty (i'm paraphrasing here). i want to agree with those people but based on a PU frame. if it feels weird and forced to you, that's cool, you can move on. you're a cool guy and you're looking for cool girls to make out with. if you aren't digging the way this chick kisses that is a totally valid reason to move on. there will be other girls …
/r/seduction25/01/12 07:23 AM
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i'm going to guess that it has more to do with her than you. she is trying to second guess your motivations but she can't. It's 'ambiguous'. she feels confused and frustrated, hence she hates the way you text. it's kind of a good thing, because she's invested and thinking about you. but it could be better, you could be texting her stuff that makes her feel sexy and fun.
/r/seduction26/11/11 10:37 AM
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if she's single, that means go ahead. i see it like this, in her mind because she isn't dating anyone then she isn't ready for dating. your task is to come in and make her feel like dating you. just take her out for a drink or something. now if you invite her out for a drink and she says anything except yes, ask someone else.
/r/seduction05/10/11 11:59 AM
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i'm imagining you doing a dance as you sing that. 1,2,3 way!
/r/seduction05/10/11 11:51 AM
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you're at college. that is the most concentrated hot girl ass you will ever see in your life. there's almost no one in any other age group except nubile. basically you are in the nice ass section of the world. to not look would be like going to the zoo and not checking out the monkeys.
/r/seduction05/10/11 11:38 AM
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i would like to hear your ideas on where you'd go from here well, with the benefit of hindsight i would stop seeing a girl who would cheat on her guy like that. been there. but you won't do that any more than i did because the chemistry makes your head spin and you aren't thinking about the other great girls that are out there who don't cheat.
/r/seduction05/10/11 11:34 AM
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you played everything by the book. shit won't always work out. your game is solid and in the long run you'll do great.
/r/seduction03/10/11 12:39 PM
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we want what we can't have. that's natural. let her feel that she can't have you either. at least that way it's equal.
/r/seduction03/10/11 05:19 AM
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thanks for the awesome answer :)
/r/seduction04/09/11 10:59 AM
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happened to me last night. the way i see it, if there's a spare chick and my mate is looking for one i'll give him the heads up.
/r/seduction04/09/11 05:08 AM
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nice post, i read the whole thing which is rare for a wall of text like this. would you care to expand a bit on the concept of value-giving? what does it mean to you?
/r/seduction04/09/11 05:04 AM
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you're doing it right
/r/seduction16/07/11 07:34 AM
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just being honest here. it sounds like you are lying to yourself. you do want a relationship with her. otherwise you wouldn't need to deny it. my advice is to look for another girl. it will take the pressure off this situation, which will make her want you more. plus the new girl probably won't have major commitment issues which is more in line with what you want. don't chase 'em, replace 'em.
/r/seduction16/07/11 12:45 AM
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don't bother breaking up with her, that is just showing how much she has you rattled. just act like you broke up with her and start focusing on other things. let her have some space and she'll probably get back in touch. it's ok to calibrate and find the level that works for you both.
/r/seduction15/07/11 02:05 PM
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she didn't really say anything. a few days later she was naked in my bed. not to big it up too much though, now she is on the other side of the country.
/r/seduction27/06/11 08:06 AM
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not sure if you realise it but not taking her home when she was drunk was a strong play. you avoided the classic 'get her to your place and she passes out and sleeps on the couch' by dodging that, you showed her you are worthy. hence she became more interested.
/r/seduction26/06/11 12:21 AM
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this sounds boring. focus on your other girls more. make her step up her game if she wants to hold your interest.
/r/seduction26/06/11 12:18 AM
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i agree. i would never talk about myself that way. the things that i would say about myself, even jokingly, i consider true.
/r/seduction26/06/11 12:15 AM
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from here, there's only one way this can go if you want her as a gf. you need to hit on her. keep being the same friend you were to her before and add some sexiness into the mix. that means from now on, you hug her when you say hello and at least kiss her hello. then you don't grab at her at all. from time to time you give her a gentle push away, like you would with a friend who you were close to (you know, a shove or something when you are joking around). and when the moment is intimate, you pu…
/r/seduction26/06/11 12:11 AM
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she defines herself based on the response she gets from other people. totally beta behaviour. she may be high status beta because she's hot but deep down she knows it won't last. alpha is knowing that you are doing fine and can handle whatever comes your way. you don't need approval from anyone.
/r/seduction26/06/11 12:03 AM
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a girl tried to friend zone me the other day. i just laughed. it's up to you how you see her. if you want her just keep hitting on her. if if she runs away then let it go and if she keeps coming back then keep escalating.
/r/seduction25/06/11 11:58 PM
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for the fun of it, there's two ways you could go. one is tell her you'll put her over your knee if she get's out of order again. this will cause her to get out of order and then you can give her a spanking in front of everyone. the other is just to up the ante - she says nothing is off limits? slap her on the pussy and see what she does. sounds like she could handle it.
/r/seduction25/06/11 11:52 PM
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why are you going on dates with a fuckbuddy? strictly have her come to your place for sex or you go to her's. that way she knows what's up.
/r/seduction19/02/11 04:15 AM
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how about 'I'm heading to [cool bar] tonight for a drink. want to join me?' pick a good night for it.
/r/seduction19/02/11 03:29 AM
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she gave you her number... call her and meet her to do something fun. repeat kissing. profit.
/r/seduction23/01/11 09:44 AM
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i only end up with girls who I have a genuine interest in, and that tends to create problems down the line. you should be with girls you have a genuine interest in. what's the problem?
/r/seduction23/01/11 09:39 AM
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he is leading the experience. this isn't cybering this is seduction via text. massive DHV.
/r/seduction11/01/11 08:45 AM
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tight game. i was doing this with one girl i met online and when we met irl for the first time it was like we were already fucking. definitely the way to go.
/r/seduction11/01/11 08:43 AM
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totally disagree. a bit of playful slap fighting is a great way to initiate kino. not all hitting has to have negative emotions attached. have fun with it. the last thing i would do is to get mad. that basically shows that you see her as a physical threat, which makes you as soft as butter. my thought is to treat it as if a child was hitting you.
/r/seduction10/01/11 11:12 PM
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you do it your way and i'll do it mine. i personally like fat people and have banged my share of fatties. i don't think it's a terrible thing to call someone. if you do, then by all means refrain from using the term. i'm happy to talk with you about this but it might be more appropriate if we do it via PM since it doesn't have much to do with the discussion at hand.
/r/seduction09/01/11 04:42 AM
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haha, a gentleman is at home in any company. this is seddit. where are you from?
/r/seduction09/01/11 04:05 AM
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fucking fatties is like shooting fish in a barrel. you can totally bang her. you would do best to just totally ignore her friends though. let them wonder why you aren't interested.
/r/seduction09/01/11 02:22 AM
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you acted like a pussy. if you took a swing at an alpha male, would you expect him to sulk? or would he let you know that you were out of order, maybe with a look, maybe with a fist to the jaw, depends on the situation. she felt sorry for you that's why she hugged you. you were acting like a hurt child. next time a girl hits you, hit her back straight away. not hard, just hard enough to let her know that you protect yourself. or laugh it off and tell her she hits like a girl. it's a great time t…
/r/seduction09/01/11 01:56 AM
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this looks like a losing battle to me. none of her hot friends will want to steal away the only guy she (probably) has.
/r/seduction09/01/11 01:45 AM
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just rereading that blog and it might be a little better than i said. depending how hot you are of course.
/r/seduction01/01/11 12:15 AM
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i'm not 100% sure. the stats are available through okcupid trends if you want to look into it.
/r/seduction01/01/11 12:01 AM
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according to okcupids own stats, the average reply rate for guys is between 2 and three in 10. if you are getting that you are doing fine and it's not too hard to do better than that. send messages ten at a time, you'll always have girls to chat to.
/r/seduction31/12/10 12:32 AM
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definite proximity alert. next time you see her there flash her a smile and see if she bites. if she smiles, say hi.
/r/seduction31/12/10 12:28 AM
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learn from douche guy. maybe he'll be able to follow up maybe he won't but he got the number and showed you how easy it is. you are putting the pussy on a pedestal with all that time and effort that you put into this. overthinking it will only make you freeze up. also, numbers mean nothing. make a connection with the girl. then she'll want to hang out with you and find ways to make it happen. your job is to attract, not to chase.
/r/seduction23/12/10 01:42 AM
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ethics are evolutionarily selected for. that is to say that they exist because the people who use them well are more successful and reproduce more often. i'm not doing the googling right now but there has been some good work published modeling various ethics and they consistently outperform unethical behavior. it's not the right way because someone says it is. they say it's the right way because it gets results. so be ethical because it will help you to succeed in life. as it relates to seductio…
/r/seduction12/12/10 09:42 PM
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in my experience, really tough guys, guys who can kill you six ways before you hit the floor, never act tough. they just don't need to. being alpha and nice is the same thing. if you really feel good about yourself then you won't need to put others down to build yourself up. in fact, you'll want to help others to feel good about themselves because that makes them more fun to be around. if you face your fears and insecurities relentlessly and never back away from becoming better, you'll have the …
/r/seduction12/12/10 09:30 PM
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assume you are go and escalate smoothly. as long as you make it clear that you are a man and you want her as a woman, she'll let you know if she is interested. if she keeps getting back to you, she's interested.
/r/seduction01/12/10 09:01 PM
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she's getting back to you. did she tell you she was single now? massive IOI
/r/seduction01/12/10 04:03 AM
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a guy can send a random message. but please make it a better one than that. keep it short and upbeat. expect to send a lot of messages and get a few replies.
/r/seduction23/11/10 11:21 AM
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hmmm, sometimes i'm just horny and don't really care, but then the reality sets in once we're naked and i don't want to do it as much any more. clothes can do a lot to alter what a girl looks like. but yeah, i recommend going for the 9s and 10s because at least you'll still be attracted to them. that's what i always used to do. lately i thought i might just give the others a chance but it hasn't worked out for me so back to the original method.
/r/seduction17/11/10 12:07 AM
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good point. i didn't escalate to anything sexual before we left the bar. just hugging and general kino to set the tone. her resistance to coming to my place was token and she followed right along no problem. since there was plenty of sex once we got to my house, i'm calling the evening a success.
/r/seduction16/11/10 09:14 PM
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interesting point. the resistance she put up was a token effort and we ended up going to my house and fucking so things worked out fine. but your point remains valid because we weren't kissing or anything in the bar. i was letting her come to me and she was cuddling up next to me. we had hugged and played around a little bit. she was definitely ready for it though, there is no way she would have met up with me otherwise. it was that explicit. and the facts of the situation bear that out because …
/r/seduction16/11/10 09:11 PM
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it is always a good idea to escalate if you are doing it right, ime. lead and pace. tell her 'we're going to my place to [whatever, but not sex] she will show resistance (anti slut defence) you need to pass the test. an example from my recent past. i was at the bar near my house with a girl i met online. we had chatted online a fair bit and i always escalated those chats with a strongly sexual frame. i had her get on skype and take her shirt off. all of this adds up to, she knew what was going t…
/r/seduction16/11/10 01:36 PM
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similar thing happened to me recently. i was fucking a girl that i'm not attracted too (long story) and i just couldn't cum. i've since decided not to fuck girls i'm not attracted to. there's no point.
/r/seduction16/11/10 10:14 AM
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sounds like you need a hug. it's a bad world out there but there are good people in it too. :)
/r/MensRights15/11/10 09:28 AM
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why would you consent to have sex with someone like that? i mainly try to have sex with people i like, who like me back. also, learn to foreplay. a quick check of the area should sort out your paranoia.
/r/MensRights15/11/10 09:08 AM
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why would you be putting your dick in random women without taking a look around first. learn to forplay.
/r/MensRights15/11/10 09:00 AM
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STFU. if she wanted to have sex with you she would take it out. how can you call yourself a man and talk like this? weak sauce.
/r/MensRights15/11/10 06:58 AM
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one more thing :) i went out for a drink at a pub with a russian girl a while ago. i paid for my drink and food and left it up to her what to do. she paid for her own drink and food. we had a nice dinner and a chat. she was still into me the last time i saw her.
/r/seduction12/11/10 09:53 PM
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a girl from a dating site is a potential lover. that means i am looking for a quality woman who will treat me with respect and kindness. if she isn't willing and able to buy her own drink, that is the end of the date because she is not right for me. in reality, i pay for my drink and let her worry about what to do with hers. if she wants it she pays for it. that's what i would do if i was having a drink with a guy i just met. the thing to remember is, if she is expecting a stranger to pay for he…
/r/seduction12/11/10 09:48 PM
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i hear what you're saying but the information will be so unreliable that it is nearly useless. how can a guy reliably know how many guys a girl has been with? and offer is always going to be a biased estimate based on what the guy thinks of the girl. so basically it's a long winded way of saying that some girls are easy.
/r/seduction12/11/10 01:45 PM
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if you buy things for her when she hasn't invested in you, you are lowering your social value in her mind by paying for her company. if you are the kind of guy who always has women around, you don't feel any particular need to treat them as special. they are just people. if you sit back and let them invest in you they will be more attracted and committed to the interaction.
/r/seduction12/11/10 12:23 PM
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of course she's not a guy. the point is, by treating her as different and special, you sub communicate that you don't respect yourself and you don't have many options with women, even if you do. this is unattractive to women. so if you want to fuck her, treat her just the same as you would a guy
/r/seduction12/11/10 12:07 AM
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how would you proceed if you were having a drink with a guy you just met? that would be my guide. if you normally buy drinks for anyone you meet then go ahead. if you are treating her specially then don't.
/r/seduction11/11/10 11:38 PM
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as far as splitting tabs goes, that is a hassle so practically i would avoid the situation. don't take dates to those sort of places unless you are willing to invest. after you are fucking her, then you can start taking her to places like that if you must. how would you treat a guy who you just met randomly? treat her the same until you are fucking. the coffeee shop thing is good. the fact that you make more money and it is no big deal to you is even more reason to let her invest. if it IS a big…
/r/seduction11/11/10 08:47 PM
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i don't pay for two reasons. paying for someone's company is DLV. it shows that you need them there and you are willing to lose money to have them around. it is subtly needy. having them invest money in the interaction allows them to feel like they are investing in you. subconsciously they will rationalize it backwards so that if they invested in you then you must be valuable. important - this is for when you just met them and they haven't invested in you yet. if you have been going out with the…
/r/seduction11/11/10 12:19 PM
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it is what you make it. it's up to you what ladies you approach and what relationship you want to build with them. seduction is the process of getting together with a woman you want to have a sexual relationship with. and then it is the everyday maintenance of your relationship.
/r/seduction11/11/10 10:17 AM
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i can dig it. he is making fun of the situation. as the character Ali has no chance, but as the person Sasha could bang that chick no worries. it's the tension between the two that makes the whole scene funny. he throws a few good negs, kissing her hand and then asking if it is clean. inviting her to berkshire to see the dryland skiing facility. i wouldn't sat best pick up ever but it gave me a chuckle.
/r/seduction11/11/10 09:58 AM
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umm that seems more like a story about when you were insulted by some rude chicks who were trying to get a free meal. how does it illustrate why you shouldn't pay? (i don't pay and i know why, just asking to clear up the confusion)
/r/seduction11/11/10 09:37 AM
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i'll definitely work on connecting a bit better, the communication was the issue i agree.
/r/seduction01/11/10 05:55 AM
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I've rarely met a girl I couldn't get into a good state of mind once she was on a date. me too. usually they want to have fun so it's not too hard. i'll learn from this and move forward. i'm thinking i need to stop being lazy and start hitting on girls in bars or somewhere where i can see them first. online dating is so easy, like home delivery pizza, but the quality is not the same.
/r/seduction31/10/10 08:27 PM
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thanks for your questions, they are insightful. re your main point: the things that i remember doing wrong were; almost offered to pay for her drink, told her she could move a little closer if she wanted to, negged her a bit hard about spilling drink on her self (mucky pup, not strong in my book but her reaction showed it was too strong) and of course, miscalibrated about how well she would follow me. i wasn't nervous at all. i don't have anything invested in these encounters beforehand except a…
/r/seduction31/10/10 09:56 AM
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that is solid gold game right there.
/r/seduction31/10/10 08:09 AM
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you probably should have made the transition more positive totally agree. my game was a little off for some reason, right from the start. i almost paid for her drink :O but ended up getting her to pay and there was a minor slip where i said she could sit a little closer to me. it was after i pushed her away so it wasn't a tragedy. she was really hooked on the bollywood scene. i was bored and we had already started walking again after watching them for ages. i figured she could watch them for a w…
/r/seduction31/10/10 02:18 AM
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i did call her as soon as i realised she wasn't coming. and when i found out what happened i apologised and asked if she would like to come back, but she was huffy and said no. so yeah, i won't be calling her.
/r/seduction31/10/10 02:12 AM
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i care man, i care. i'm not trying to make a good impression so much as to establish what sort of person i am. so if she isn't following where i'm leading, we aren't going to be in the same space for very long. i'm totally ok with that.
/r/seduction31/10/10 01:06 AM
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i think you might have hit the nail on the head. she was a bit awkward about the whole park thing from the start. i'm not introducing random chicks from the internet to my friends straight away. she would need to show that she is pretty special before that happens. and dates where we spend money are for girls i'm already fucking. that's why i chose coffee and a stroll. but i think you are absolutely right in reading her interpretation of the park. too romantic. i just wanted a good open space so…
/r/seduction30/10/10 11:41 PM
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i'm not really bothered, there's plenty more where she came from. i just wanted to get a feel for if i was being unreasonable. seems like i could have been nicer about it but really this is just a sign of problems in the future so it's better to blow her now i think. as far as her talking, she doesn't know anyone i know so it's not my problem.
/r/seduction30/10/10 11:33 PM
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thanks man, i was beginning to feel like a n00b. she saw me walking, how hard is it to just follow. if her issues are the way i read them, she is at home kicking herself for bailing out and wondering why she always gets too scared on dates. if that's true, she might toughen up and get in touch for a second chance. if she does, i'm going to keep her on skype chatting for a while so she can get more comfortable. she's fun to talk to on the phone.
/r/seduction30/10/10 11:30 PM
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well she usually waits four days before responding to an email, even though she reads them straight away (the dating site shows me that info) so i'm not expecting any sooner than that :) maybe she will maybe she won't, it will be a big jump for her but i have a feeling that she sees something in me since she was that nervous and decided to come anyway.
/r/seduction30/10/10 11:26 PM
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could you tell me more of why you don't think the park is good? why is it high pressure and what do you consider low pressure?
/r/seduction30/10/10 11:23 PM
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fair enough, lesson learned. since i'm getting downvoted anyway, who wants to bet on how long it will take her to contact me? :D
/r/seduction30/10/10 11:05 PM
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really? so how close am i meant to stand?? most people i know can handle being a few metres away from their friends :D
/r/seduction30/10/10 10:38 PM
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yeah i had a plan and i had told her where we were going. i didn't stomp off, but maybe she felt like i did. i was only about twenty metres away but it was around a little bend in the path. if you want to know the plan, i was going to sit with her and watch the boats on the harbour for a while and if that went well upgrade to getting something to eat together. if that went well upgrade to a drink somewhere in the city. i wasn't planning on laying her because she was already taking things so slow…
/r/seduction30/10/10 10:35 PM
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friendzone her and game her friends/social circle practise on girls you are attracted too because you want the skills to pick up girls you are attracted to. train to succeed.
/r/seduction30/10/10 08:56 AM
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fair enough, don't sweat it then. next time you see him just give him the hard stare and watch him shrink like a balloon with a slow leak.
/r/seduction23/10/10 03:45 AM
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next time he pushes you, push back. wtf man don't let some punk put his hands on you.
/r/seduction22/10/10 11:29 AM
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i'm 34 my age range is 20 - 29 i'm looking for a mother for my kids so realistically i want a woman who is able to have healthy children. over 30's have significantly less chance of getting preggers and more chance of disabilities. as far as gaming being unethical, i see your point. i feel the same way about some techniques, especially lying to girls. on the other hand, i came to realise that every interaction has a flavour and i want my interactions to feel good and be fulfilling for me and the…
/r/seduction19/10/10 09:03 PM
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chill man. it's ok to like a girl. it's tuesday where i am, haven't you called her to hook up another date yet?
/r/seduction19/10/10 10:49 AM
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i feel great, let's do something. better text escalation?
/r/seduction19/10/10 10:32 AM
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wait, you were already making out with her, so you asked her about work?? if you can't think of anything to say, just don't say anything! keep kissing her and escalating. sounds like she was keen for some action. if you want to get her thinking about the bedroom, talk about the bedroom.
/r/seduction19/10/10 10:23 AM
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haha yeah it was a bit painfully awkward. guess the easy lie is the best solution.
/r/seduction18/10/10 10:37 PM
1

sure, i'll talk to a girl for any reaon if i feel like it but if she isn't talking back then what's the point? there's plenty of pretty girls with perky tits who are great to talk to and fun to be around.
/r/seduction18/10/10 02:04 AM
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of course, but the point is to attract her into wanting to talk to you. it is seduction ya dig?
/r/seduction17/10/10 11:35 PM
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i hear that. the situation is, i like her to talk to and i quite enjoyed fucking her. she comes like crazy which is hot to me. but we had been hanging out all day the day before and slept together that night. it was enough. and i am well aware, painfully aware in fact, that sex is better with someone i'm in love with. unfortunately i don't have that option at the moment so i'm doing what i can. i'm coming off a 9 month hiatus so i think it's ok to ease back into it.
/r/seduction17/10/10 10:29 PM
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tits schmits, have some standards :P
/r/seduction17/10/10 10:24 PM
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hahahaha she actually sent me a text that said 'thanks for the nice time' scarily accurate considering it doesn't rhyme
/r/seduction17/10/10 10:23 PM
1

i hear that. time to put my big boy pants on
/r/seduction17/10/10 10:21 AM
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if she isn't holding her side of the conversation up, why do you want to talk to her?
/r/seduction17/10/10 08:38 AM
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it's only awkward if you think it is. i just sit back and relax. look into her eyes, give her a smile if you feel like it. or not. girls are pretty good at conversations generally. if she wants to talk to you she will. remember, you are a high value man. not a performing monkey. i find this generates sexual tension like crazy, if she is already a bit into you.
/r/seduction17/10/10 07:59 AM
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one thing i like to do is just sit back and say nothing. let them step up and fill the gap. it shows that i'm not hanging out for their approval and it allows them to invest in the interaction a little more. don't be scared to make them work for it.
/r/seduction17/10/10 07:19 AM
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leave a good message and she'll get back to you.
/r/seduction17/10/10 07:01 AM
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active disinterest is DHV, to put it pick up terms. by boring, i mean i was watching tv and dozing off. who knows if she'll be back for more. i wouldn't be surprised if she was though, considering the way she was cumming. but she might find another man for the job.
/r/seduction17/10/10 06:58 AM
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haha, the honest truth would have been 'hey, thanks for the good time, i enjoyed myself. now i'm bored and want to hang out with someone else or by myself.' sounds a little harsh, no?
/r/seduction17/10/10 06:47 AM
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hmm, yeah i did try that. a couple of times she said 'do you want me to go?' i just couldn't find it in my heart to say 'yep, get out' because it was obvious she wanted to stay a while longer. so i just sat around being boring until she decided to leave.
/r/seduction17/10/10 06:23 AM
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i don't really drink. i am ok with chit chat but i had done enough of that. what techniques are you referring to?
/r/seduction17/10/10 06:12 AM
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ah yes, but that wouldn't be true in this case. i am aware that lying is an option but i want to be honest. i just feel better about myself when i act with integrity. it's important to me.
/r/seduction17/10/10 06:12 AM
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sorry you had a bad experience. guys like that ruin it for the rest of us. your point is fair though. i don't want to be a bad host and i do actually like this girl. it was just time for me to do other things.
/r/seduction17/10/10 06:03 AM
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this was after the repeat :D you're right. i feel like a bad host kicking someone out of my house when they obviously want to stay. i tried the 'what are you doing today?' line. i should just tell it like it is i guess. i am still looking for a nice way to say it without lying. the truth is, i'm free all day. i'm just bored of chatting and would rather be by myself. or you know, chat with someone else...
/r/seduction17/10/10 02:39 AM
2

would you bang a hot girl that lived at her parents house? of course you would. so why would she care? don't make it a big deal and it won't be.
/r/seduction17/10/10 02:20 AM
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thanks man :)
/r/seduction15/10/10 11:22 AM
1

tell me more. i am usually very picky but i've just come out of a relationship. since i'm single right now i'm talking to a few ladies online and i'm not sure how far i want to take things. they are pretty keen though and pushing to meet up and hang out. how do you mean 'people surprise you' and what have you gained from banging girls that you aren't that invested in?
/r/seduction15/10/10 09:25 AM
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it's not wrong to help a girl study. that is what you call a perfect opportunity. escalate!
/r/seduction13/10/10 03:45 AM
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okc is where i'm having the best results. after some of the stuff i've seen recently i'm going to go a lot harder. girls have cameras on their computers and aren't afraid to use them!
/r/seduction12/10/10 04:14 AM
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i'm not a girl. are you sure you're in the right place?
/r/seduction12/10/10 03:55 AM
1

internet dating man. all the young girls are into it. use your nerd powers for something fun. i just started and it is so easy. i don't even have to wear pants. monday and tuesday nights when nothing is normally happening now i can be chatting online and looking around for prospects. there's plenty of info on the boards for someone who knows how to look. follow the recipe and you will have success. too easy!
/r/seduction12/10/10 03:54 AM
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sometimes i feel that life, much like computer games, keeps throwing challenges at me that are a little bit harder than i think i can handle. then i handle them and step up a level. reach for this because you will get better by trying.
/r/seduction12/10/10 03:40 AM
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i think the 'sex in the bathroom' question was a shit test. you passed by playing it off. if you wanted to fuck her you could have but you seem like a decent guy and she would have only been using you to get at her bf. you dodged a bullet. my aim in this game is to get quality women and she certainly wasn't quality that night. hold out for someone you really want.
/r/seduction12/10/10 03:36 AM
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disagree. she kissed his cheek he escalated to kiss on the lips. perfect move. she won't be ready for a relationship until the right guy makes her feel like she is. he's well on the way to doing that.
/r/seduction12/10/10 03:30 AM
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i think if you compliment her you are jumping through her hoop. if you ignore you are being unemotional. so i would just say something neutral. smile and say 'I'm so tall'.
/r/seduction12/10/10 03:25 AM
2

who cares. it's social proof in a group of girls, one of whom op is interested in. good work op. what is your plan to get the girl you like?
/r/seduction11/10/10 09:02 AM
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I watched a guy do this in highschool. he told everyone he was gay and then proceeded to finger every cute girl in our class. it's a workable scam.
/r/seduction11/10/10 08:59 AM
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the mindset is always the same. you are strong and capable and nothing can hold you down. imagine you fell over. it hurts, you get up and you keep right on going. it will hurt for a while and then it will get better without you really noticing. keep developing yourself. get better in areas that you want to improve. look back at the things you did right and take strength from the fact that you had success. soon you will have success again.
/r/seduction10/10/10 09:52 PM
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the way dancers do it is to dance looking in a full length mirror. you really don't need to outshine everyone on the dance floor. so long as you fit in and don't stand out as weird.
/r/seduction10/10/10 09:26 PM
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i read it and thought it was good. constructive criticism, the part about 'having a smaller carbon footprint than you' came off a little smug. also 'communication theory' sounds... theoretical. would simplifying it to communication be better?
/r/seduction10/10/10 09:00 AM
1

so if you are in the same club and not dancing everything is fine? it has to be the dancing then. hard to pinpoint what if we can't see you dance. are you a fairly sporty person or not so much?
/r/seduction10/10/10 08:14 AM
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in the same way that everyone likes to play poker with someone who can't play well, guys like to hang out with guys who wont steal chicks from them. why do they care if you get laid or not? tell them to get out of your business. party to have a good time. just talk to people as people, don't worry what sex parts they're packing. being comfortable around guys makes you more attractive to the girls and makes you more comfortable in the room. just focus on having fun. after a little while you'll fi…
/r/seduction09/10/10 07:38 AM
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it's a dating site. she's not there to play dominoes. if she wanted to respond she would
/r/seduction07/10/10 02:22 AM
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i would move on. if she can't even keep up a conversation why would you want to talk to her? you remember if you talk to someone, yeah? its safe to assume that she does too.
/r/seduction07/10/10 12:27 AM
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i think that line makes you too available. it's DLV. why not be more like 'i'm pretty busy but i can squeeze you in on tuesday afternoon until 7, you bring the chips' (obviously pick a time that is good for you)
/r/seduction22/09/10 10:41 AM
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good story :)
/r/seduction21/09/10 06:25 AM
1

you're trolling me right? it means go fuck ten other women
/r/seduction21/09/10 02:54 AM
1

in car holleration - smile and wave. it's enough i'm too ugly to be seen out with you - some people have low self esteem. you can't fix this. how you deal with it depends on how much you want them to come out i guess there's only so many ways to split the pie - that's cool. just hang out with whom you want. not everyone gets some, that's how it is. alpha female - every game has a final level boss. step up
/r/seduction20/09/10 11:11 AM
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do you have any family that you could go and stay with for a few weeks? just get out of town for a while and don't answer her calls. when you feel stronger, come back and change the locks.
/r/MensRights14/09/10 04:52 AM
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sometimes i think i have aspergers. i am good at learning things by taking in huge amounts of information very quickly. let them learn at their own pace, it might be very quick. the hard part will be actually interacting with the humans. that can be a bit.. icky still, if you want to make sexy time, you need to get out there and find a partner
/r/seduction12/09/10 06:21 AM
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