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I started reading books on selling, dressing like an adult, working out and changed the way I talked to myself. I had a terrible and clingy mindset when I was younger and was immediately attached to anyone who showed me attention, which of course backfired every time. I began to evaluate every rejection and interaction in a constructive way in order to better myself and my approach. I started to catch and stop myself from going down a negative path of self talk and that made a huge difference. I…
/r/seduction01/06/20 11:21 AM
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I think you may need to work on escalating, like building some form of sexual tension whether it be physical or verbally suggestive. Without that, you're essentially forcing the female to make the first move towards the next step which obviously doesn't happen often.
/r/seduction13/11/18 12:56 PM
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Being a construction project manager, a great chunk of my job is getting paid to keep these types of guys in line. Off the bat, I'm the enemy. They know I make more money and can tell them whatever it is I want them to do. They're adults, guys who might be the leaders of their social groups, some know they can kick my ass. I dress well, I'm handsome, mostly younger than them and drive a nice truck...whats there not to hate?! It's damn near an art form to persuade someone to do something they don…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/18 10:32 AM
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Easiest way is through dating apps. I've found that those with mostly selfies are the easiest as, and this is my own theory, they don't have many friends and are lonely. Some basic push, pull and kino is all they need.
/r/seduction11/03/18 01:15 AM
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I found the most success in Atlanta with transplants post college. Places like Buckhead are incredibly cliquey with The Ivy being the perfect example. Breaking into those social groups is key. I'd imagine women are more independent in NYC hence your higher success rate.
/r/seduction04/03/18 01:26 PM
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If it was meant to be, more would've come from past interactions. You need to truly believe that each rejection is a stepping stone to a better you. After a rejection, decipher what you could've done differently, make a mental note and move on. You should only harken back to the mental note made, not the interaction itself. If you're cringing at past rejections then to me, you're putting unknown pussy on a pedestal and wondering what life would've been like had you done something different. That…
/r/seduction30/09/17 01:50 PM
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The search feature isn't meant for men.
/r/seduction30/09/17 01:03 PM
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Tinder should be treated as a video game. I suck at online sports but that doesn't affect my ability to hit a home run, a three-pointer, or catch a football in real life. If I can shoot par on Tiger Woods golf, should I expect to play a perfect game in real life? No! That's fucking ridiculous. It can be difficult to separate the two but that fact is, you can't compare your results on Tinder to real life approaches. Delete it, go to Target, start approaching and you'll see much better results.
/r/seduction30/09/17 01:02 PM
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I try to find common ground, relate my experience briefly, pose a question related to said topic, and then branch out from there wherever the conversation naturally flows. To find a common topic, look for influence based on the environment you're in such as the gym, a long line, rainy weather, etc.
/r/seduction28/08/17 10:01 PM
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Going out solo will help you get comfortable in your own skin. I used to travel a lot for work and had no choice but to sit at the bar by myself and eat. Go out not with the intention of picking up a girl but instead, have the mindset that you're just going to enjoy the solidarity and if an opportunity presents itself, start socializing.
/r/seduction12/08/17 05:51 PM
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When you connect eyes for a few seconds throw in a wink or wave and judge her reaction to determine how best to proceed. If it's positive, like she smiles, waves back, smirks and looks down, etc. then approach earnestly. If nothing, casually give her the finger and see if that breaks the ice.
/r/seduction12/08/17 05:30 PM
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Same boat as you man and have had the same experience. I paid for the premium version so I could start swiping before heading to BFE as sometimes I'm there for just a night so it allows me time to set it up. I think if you look professional in the photos, you stick out quite a bit compared to the locals and being a much smaller city, show up fairly quick on their swipes. Keep it up!
/r/seduction26/06/17 04:55 PM
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Younger women become aware of the wall and start settling down earlier.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/17 06:21 PM
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I only see this getting worse with the current generation due to things like Tinder, OK Cupid, Match, and as always, FB. They're constantly validated and have the pick of the litter however when it comes to settling down, that's when they realize their dating pool is much, much smaller so it comes as a shock to their ego, hence doubling down. Add to that, it takes much more effort for them to keep their looks up and weight down so they're seeing diminishing returns. Then they rally together and …
/r/TheRedPill01/05/17 11:47 AM
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At 34, I see this type of behavior from women all over the place now and only pursue those in their 20's. A few years ago I went on dates with those post-wall and quickly realized they were damaged goods desperately looking to lock down the best they could by employing a good girl persona which isn't any fun. I see them on my social media streams as well. Once gorgeous and riding the carousel, they're now past their prime, posting stupid fucking walls of text about their inability to find a suit…
/r/TheRedPill22/04/17 09:41 PM
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Next time interject to change the course of the conversation. There was a good video posted a few days ago about it - ask a couple closesd-ended questions to shift the conversation such that you can talk about yourself. Her: ...family is out in Colorado... You: Wait a second. Have you ever been skiing? Her: Yes. You: What about surfing? Her: No. You: I took a trip down to the Keys a couple years ago and blah blah blah.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 01:49 PM
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I've subconsciously done this before and this is exactly how she described the smirk. It works.
/r/seduction04/04/17 10:19 PM
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I've seen this in all relationships, the good and the bad, and you described it perfectly. Towards the end of any relationship, I notice them being less playful and more competitive, questioning, and the like.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/17 05:49 PM
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Did you actually do this? Provide some details if so.
/r/seduction30/03/17 01:54 PM
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Couple that with the palm just above the v giving a little pressure
/r/TheRedPill26/03/17 06:23 PM
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You just gotta overcome that fear by outright facing it. Like riding a roller coaster for the first time, all you imagine is fear, danger, and what ifs before the ride yet you see everyone else doing it so you give it a try. Once you're locked into the cart and it starts moving, you realize there's no turning back and afterwards, it wasn't bad at all. You want to do it again and experience more coasters. I used to be afraid of approaching, then it was keeping a conversation going, then when thos…
/r/seduction21/01/17 06:27 PM
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Agreed. I prefer to be sober as being tipsy or worse works against me.
/r/seduction21/01/17 06:14 PM
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One of my favorites is "you've got such small hands...my dick is gonna look huge in these things".
/r/TheRedPill19/01/17 12:28 PM
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Are you me? Can't give this advice enough praise cause it's spot on. I've always preferred the hand on the knee to thigh move. Starts off harmless enough, escalates to sexual territory and builds the tension. Also, a bar! Too many people try to come up with something creative and unique for a first date when all you need is cheap beer and a pool table. No need to keep going from one place to another throughout the night as is so often mention on seddit. Have a few drinks, lower their guard in a …
/r/TheRedPill19/01/17 12:27 PM
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The worrying about your situation needs to disappear because it'll show in your interactions with women which is a turnoff. At your age, women are looking for stability and confidence so you must exude it. As others have said, hit the gym and ensure your wardrobe fits you well or trash it. That alone should make a dent in the lack of confidence.
/r/seduction16/01/17 01:00 PM
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Don't just randomly ask her out without first building rapport. Find an excuse to ask her a question, feel her out, see if she shows any signs of interest, and if so, build upon it from there.
/r/seduction05/01/17 11:18 PM
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You've got a lot of fear and didn't really provide any reason as to why so it just boils down to self confidence. The only way to build it up is to get out there and subject yourself to potential success and criticism. The easiest way is to just start talking to everyone, beginning with small talk/banter without the pressure of any goal like getting a number or a kiss. Just talk with strangers, enjoy the interaction, and try to take it a bit further each time realizing that your lack of confiden…
/r/seduction05/01/17 11:15 PM
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I remember reading something on here a while ago talking about the dating habits of 9's and 10's. In short, they jump from one to the next and it ain't that hard for them to do. They always have men showing interest so when the time comes that they're ready to move on, they let those previously interested parties know with the slightest sign of interest or in rarer cases, are a little more blunt. I work with a 9 and came close to being the next branch. She never said a positive thing about her b…
/r/TheRedPill27/12/16 03:24 AM
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Great advice and appreciate the post. This is something I've let slowly degrade as I've been with my gf for a while now and need to get my independence back as top priority. Thank you
/r/TheRedPill01/12/16 01:04 PM
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Include a shot of yourself doing something fun, one dressed up in a suit, and another out with friends. Make sure the photos are somewhat recent or that they're at least consistent in your appearance or they'll be off put thinking you only have a few from years ago to choose from. When taking photos with friends make sure you're in the middle so that you are the focus point. It subconsciously suggests that you're the most important as opposed to the guy on the far left who just managed to make i…
/r/seduction08/11/16 02:04 AM
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Strong Opinions and Expressing Them This was a big turning point for me. It's my belief this value gains respect from others as it shows you've got a backbone. I look down on those who seem so fluid they can change their values just to agree with someone else. Having strong opinions and expressing them also leads to more engaging conversation. It's a relationship builder when done correctly. Never be afraid of someone disagreeing because even if you're wrong, you'll be wiser for having corrected…
/r/seduction03/11/16 12:10 PM
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Agreed with all. The day care near me varies in cost but is about $18-30 a day. Discounts are usually given for multiple dogs.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/16 04:04 PM
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I used to do that but state my intentions pretty early on. If they're lying then the rest of my time spent is trying to win them over or qualifying myself. I'd rather invest that time on someone who's showing more interest.
/r/seduction13/10/16 02:00 PM
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Once a girl mentions boyfriend I excuse myself from the conversation. On occasion I'll say "did you just say boyfriend" and just walk away as soon as she confirms without saying another word. It gets some funny responses and I'll only take a few steps to get a rise outta them before returning to the conversation to end on a happier note. Interesting thing though is that after pulling that move I always have a good discussion about the awkwardness a taken girl has in working into the conversation…
/r/seduction12/10/16 10:26 PM
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It just takes practice. You've already overcome the biggest obstacle, approaching. Keep at it and refine your approach each time. Take note of failed opportunities to learn from your mistakes.
/r/seduction08/10/16 12:41 AM
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A number is just a tool. Focusing too much on securing a number can make you lose site of the real goal, intimacy. Obtaining a number doesn't guarantee anything and shouldn't be seen as a prize as its only purpose in the onset is for scheduling another face to face. When approaching, take more time focusing on building rapport and sexual tension. If you rush obtaining the number without leaving an impression, the chances of her going out of her way to meet you will be slim to none. Find common i…
/r/seduction07/10/16 11:32 PM
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This reminds of something I read on the FP that said those with high confidence during their teenage years were more likely do better than their peers in adult life. Better meaning holding higher positions of power thus earning more.
/r/seduction29/09/16 01:58 PM
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I've had mixed feelings on women over 30. I've gotten some easy lays for sure but some are dating for LTR's and won't put out unless the feeling is mutual. I generally avoid them unless traveling and tindering.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 11:34 PM
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There are a lot if sales books that drive this point home. It's all about getting to the root of it. When asked a question, don't be so quick to answer at face value. It opening, it helps keep the conversation going and build rapport because you're driving the conversation deeper.
/r/seduction01/09/16 11:38 AM
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I had a very successful first date at one of those escape the room things. I also happened to luck out and solve the majority of the clues so I imagine it can backfire if you bring no benefit.
/r/seduction29/08/16 11:03 PM
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It's worked for me. The most straightforward one was at the bar with a friend when a chic came and sat a couple seats away by herself. Approached, read her as being interested, started light kino, asked if she wanted to get outta there and then started talking logistics. We never kissed, just fucked in the woods.
/r/seduction26/08/16 10:52 AM
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Chalk it up to a both a bad night and learning experience. Having the right energy before going out is key. I swear the laws of attraction pick up on it. Work on the 5 second rule and if you haven't already, start chatting up strangers in public more to work on random conversation skills.
/r/seduction07/08/16 03:58 PM
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I'd argue initiating and leaving on your own accord like that is great practice. With each encounter take it a bit further. That should really help you manage the nervousness.
/r/seduction02/08/16 11:55 AM
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Say what you want...don't hold back. Be blunt and inappropriate.
/r/seduction29/07/16 01:06 PM
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This has to be someone trolling...no one can be that naive
/r/seduction02/07/16 01:21 PM
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Basically she threw some red flags and you responded appropriately. Good on you for not letting that shit continue.
/r/seduction25/06/16 04:55 AM
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If a college bound person already knows they want to go into a specialized field then they're already a step ahead and by all means should take courses geared towards that field. My example is of a friend of my ex who decided after graduating she didn't want to pursue bio and took a job with ATT as a contracted PM. Starting pay for that, in Atlanta, was about $31/hr.
/r/seduction23/06/16 03:50 PM
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I'd say starting to look in your 30's is better than the 20's and that in your 40's the pool starts to dry up even when looking at much younger women...that is to assume one wants to marry at all. In regards to the high divorce rate, I believe there are just two major factors: the media (including social) and women in the workplace, the latter of which ties into your comment on the 60's. Women are now coming across many more men in their lives, hearing more stories, watching/listening to media t…
/r/seduction23/06/16 11:23 AM
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You're absolutely right, it is. These are just my thoughts on the matter.
/r/seduction23/06/16 11:12 AM
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As a divorced guy in his 30's, I sincerely appreciate and agree with this post. To sit around doing jack shit in your 20's is setting yourself up for failure. To elaborate, go to college and get some sort of general degree. Doesn't really matter what in because all its gonna do is open doors. I've seen people with Bio degrees go into IT managment. Start working a real job, note what you like and don't, see what the guy above you and above him are doing. Is that something you want to do? No? Move…
/r/seduction22/06/16 07:28 PM
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Going through your post history and it looks like you really hate Georgia. Not sure what happened to make you so bitter but sounds like it just wasn't the right fit for you. Your comment is incredibly generalized and a bit ignorant as are most of your posts regarding this state. You're only 20 so perhaps you haven't found your comfort zone yet as it appears you're full of anger. Trust me, that'll get you nowhere pleasant.
/r/TheRedPill18/05/16 02:19 AM
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I've seen Atlanta mentioned a few times now in regards to pickup where it was stated it's tough. I disagreed as having been here 6 years now it's easy to get laid if you know what you're doing. That being said, I was recently in Colorado, specifically Boulder, and holy shit! I got on tinder the second day and couldn't believe the amount of hot women in comparison to Atlanta. It's said CO is the thinnest state in the country which I believe as everyone is active there. The downside? I came across…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/16 11:03 PM
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I haven't had any blowouts as a result of making such comments. On Tinder, worst case is they unmatch or just stop responding. When going out to game, which is rare due to my schedule and small social circle, worst is they just disengage and go back to their friends in which case I just assume they weren't that interested anyways. I've no idea what my close rate is but most of it is either from tinder or friends of friends and I'd say it's high. I'm in my early - mid 30's and date those around 2…
/r/TheRedPill06/05/16 04:26 AM
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Doing this was a big turning point in my game and felt incredibly liberating. I remember the first time I did something of the sort was on a bowling date. Was showing her how to throw and said "Jesus your hands are small. My dick is gonna look huge in those things." She laughed and I was kind of surprised I just blurted it out. Now I try to introduce sex into conversation as early as possible to set the frame of the interaction. This was she's thinking about fucking so when I escalate kino it's …
/r/TheRedPill05/05/16 10:33 AM
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Perhaps I should've clarified but I'm aware he said Athens. I've had great luck here in Atlanta, specifically Buckhead, whether it be Tinder, a cold approach, or through friends...maybe that's just me. I grew up in South Florida and honestly my game was shit back then so I can't really compare it apples to apples.
/r/seduction12/03/16 12:07 AM
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I live inside atlanta and have to say that what you describe is nothing like the city.
/r/seduction11/03/16 03:04 PM
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Great observation and post! This specifically applies to me right now as I've met a chic I'm really into but having to check myself in this manner so that I don't lose frame. I've found that the 10-15 minutes of meditation/self-talk really goes a long way in evaluating your actions and reactions. Like, yes I like this girl and I want her to like me, but is she right for me? Have I remained true to myself during our interactions? Have I expressed too much interest? If she doesn't think I'm right …
/r/seduction21/02/16 03:16 AM
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Practice and a healthy, happy life will build attraction. I was always awful with women and it wasn't until I got a divorce and starting reading up on pickup that I got better. Starting going out solo, met people, started engaging more, continued reading, and risking embarrassment. I'm still far from having the success others have on here and still make stupid mistakes as can be seen in a few FR's but it's fun even when you don't succeed because you learn from it. I'm 33, have a solid career, en…
/r/seduction31/01/16 01:37 AM
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I appreciate the feedback and agree that it was a bad idea to say that. How would you recommend I try and open her back up?
/r/seduction22/01/16 11:45 AM
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Thank for for the feedback and totally agree, I need to push more. I guess I get caught up in the moment and don't bother pumping the brakes. I'll definitely make a conscious effort next time. Regarding the follow up, even as I was writing that message it didn't feel right but I was in a fuck it mood. Keep in mind I didn't send that one until about five days later. The only thing I said day after was a comment on our hangovers as we had previously joked at our age they last a couple days.
/r/seduction22/01/16 11:43 AM
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Early 30's
/r/seduction22/01/16 11:39 AM
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Thanks again for the feedback. As I'd generally agree with the rule of just using text for logistics, I specifically chose this girl to engage in much more texting because immediately before I'd experienced a handful of flakes back to back. Add to that she said she wasn't interested in hooking up, I wanted to test the boundaries to see if talk of a sexual nature would get her to quit thus saving us both wasted time. Essentially, I wanted to be sure she was open to it before committing to a date …
/r/seduction22/01/16 04:27 AM
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Thanks for the feedback and for your earlier post in which I'm in total agreement. I've posted a few previously and it felt like a waste of time. In regards to the tag, I honestly wasn't sure how to include it but understand now it needs to be included in the title which can't be edited. Oh well.
/r/seduction22/01/16 03:39 AM
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So...what's supposed to be this crazy thing? What kind of bullshit is acceptable?
/r/seduction03/01/16 10:00 PM
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That's all there is to it. I joined a group of about ten where I only knew one person. Made friends with the guys and girls then made my move on one. We hit it off but turns out she had already invited a dude she had previously met to join. I go for a smoke with a couple others and upon my return he's arrived and they're getting close. Not dissuaded from having a good time I make friendly with another newcomer. She's hot and we get to chatting. The previous girl keeps giving me the eye while wit…
/r/seduction02/01/16 04:46 PM
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From my own experiences as both nice guy and "asshole", I believe it comes down the nice guy being afraid to state his intentions. I wanted to fuck women and didn't necessarily want to be in a relationship, but thought that a friendship and real connection to that person had to be made before sex could occur. This often lead to exactly that, a friendship, because I didn't state my intentions/sexual interest early enough. As an "asshole", I bring up sex one way or another as early as possible so …
/r/TheRedPill31/12/15 01:18 PM
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Question 1: ”Are you a player?” I play the field well enough. Question 2: ”Yeah, I bet you say that to all the girls..” Only the ones worth my time. Question 3: ”What’s the matter? You look so sad.” I just realized I forgot to get milk. Question 4: How many girls have you slept with?” Enough to know what to look for in a woman. Question 5: ”Are you seeing anyone else?” Whoa whoa whoa. I didn't know we were already seeing each other. ──────── Intermediate ──────── Question 6: ”Are you gay?” I onl…
/r/TheRedPill04/12/15 12:13 AM
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A friend of mine introduced me to this idea a long time ago and recommended a website to visit, nomarriage.com. I'm not affiliated with it in any way but wanted to share this article - http://www.nomarriage.com/top-ten-reasons-you-shouldnt-get-married/
/r/TheRedPill28/11/15 10:48 PM
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I gotta give you credit for putting yourself out there. That's a huge step. Be mindful of how much you're drinking and don't go for a home run each time you approach. Build conversation before touching them and don't ask them about their relationship status. If you're always being hard on yourself it sounds like you need to work on your 'inner game' because women can pick up on confidence or the lack thereof. Keep up the good work and always evaluate your interactions so you can continue to impr…
/r/seduction26/11/15 02:19 PM
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You need to get into the mindset that she'd be lucky to have you. Focus on one of her flaws and amplify it in your mind to get her off that pedestal or you can just pretend she's illiterate.
/r/seduction26/11/15 02:09 PM
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Agreed. A movie is one of the worst places for a date.
/r/seduction26/11/15 02:05 PM
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I used to do the same a long time ago. In the words of Yoda, be mindful of your thoughts. Actively catch yourself doing this and once you do, force yourself to think of a happy memory. Over time, you'll literally begin rewiring your synapses, ie, thought patterns. For reading up on it, I highly recommend a book called 'Evolve your Brain' by Joe Dispenza.
/r/seduction26/11/15 02:02 PM
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If you're trying to move in quick you need to do more than just kiss and expect them to jump in bed with you. You need to build sexual tension so that they can't wait to get in bed with you. Read up on kino for starters but bring the topic of sex into your interaction early in a roundabout way...whatever you can fit into the natural progression of conversation. Don't just come out and say you want to fuck her after kissing but do let her know your intentions then push and pull to build up the te…
/r/seduction26/11/15 01:02 AM
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I just recently started dating younger women after realizing what a wasteland those in their 30's are. The difference in their attitudes is incredible and can't believe I wasted as much time as I did dating women my age, early 30's. I took one out who was a 35 year old bartender. Looked great and we hit it off but she wasn't about fucking unless their was a relationship involved. She's holding on to the pussy now. I'm seeing one girl now, mid 20's who just comes over to fuck. She doesn't care ab…
/r/TheRedPill25/11/15 12:13 PM
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Glad to hear it dude. I make it back to my hometown every so often and coming across old friends is awkward sometimes because I've changed so much. It's a good feeling and am happy you got to experience it.
/r/seduction24/11/15 01:22 AM
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I used to do the same with girls but would also fantasize about all kinds of things. I eventually realized this was harmful to my psyche and stopped myself whenever realizing I was doing it. It's hard at first because you find your mind does it without you making a real conscience effort to do so. After you catch yourself, just think of literally anything else and it'll get much easier over time.
/r/seduction15/11/15 09:43 PM
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I was told a long time ago once to wait until I'm in my 30's to marry. At that age, I'll have a solid career, be emotionally mature, and in the best shape I've been in. Essentially, I'll be at my prime and can pickup much better ass to marry than if I settled in my 20's. I recently turned 33 and couldn't agree more.
/r/seduction27/09/15 09:18 PM
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Focus on yourself for now and stop trying to find a girl. It sounds like you're in a very low place which doesn't breed attraction...women can pick up on this. You lost some weight which is a huge milestone. Now get in to the gym at least 4 times a week and manage your diet properly. Buy yourself some nice clothes with that money saved from the bar and work on making yourself happy. Compliment people casually throughout the day and work on your small talk. Lastly, take advantage of meetup and go…
/r/seduction26/09/15 11:19 AM
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Open ended questions are the way to go. Build off their answers and ask why and how. Don't machine gun a bunch of unrelated questions better suited for an interview. Practice, gain more experience, and it'll become natural. One thing I picked up on here was to insert the word "lately" into your questions to get them to think deeper before answering, e.g. "what have you been doing with your free time lately". Good luck and keep getting out there.
/r/seduction05/09/15 01:11 PM
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This weekend I did the opposite. I used a 10 to build social proof with other potentials. Normally I would have gone for the 10 but ultimately it was a lack of confidence that persuaded me and the fact that she hated smoking. I ran into the 10 while approaching the bar and engaged in light conversation. She came outside for fresh air while her friends were being hounded by "douchebags". She buys me and the bartender a shot then excuses herself for a minute. She gives me a kiss on the lips and co…
/r/seduction31/08/15 12:51 PM
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This may sound weird, but I focus on their flaws in the back of my mind if I think I may get nervous. This helps prevent me from thinking negative thoughts about myself and boosts my confidence at the same time. So for example, Molly is hot as hell but she's got veiny hands. Fuck those hands are veiny. Mine are much nicer. She should be so lucky that I'm even talking to her.
/r/seduction23/08/15 07:36 PM
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It sounds like your confidence is lacking. Practice approaching strangers in public just to engage in small talk to work away any anxiety. Then start approaching girls you aren't attracted to just to get a conversation going and work u0 from there.
/r/seduction23/08/15 07:27 PM
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If you drink a liter at a time then it isn't all that bad.
/r/seduction20/08/15 06:00 PM
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I'm thinking you should treat it no differently than a night time date. Sure the sun is out and she can't drink but that shouldn't prevent you from escalating.
/r/seduction20/08/15 05:59 PM
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I always get shit on this sub for recommending it but a therapist can do wonders. I dealt with situational depression and it helped, a lot. Most insurance covers visits so you just pay a copay. What was most surprising to me was the effects of antidepressants...they greatly reduced the time I spent drawing on negative thoughts...as if nothing was much of a burden so it helped me get back out of my shell. Only take if you therapist recommends and even then do your research. Outside of that, 'How …
/r/seduction24/12/14 11:28 PM
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Of the four I definitely wasn't expecting Sal or Roseanne Arnold...was pleasantly surorised.
/r/seduction20/12/14 01:16 PM
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I love this post but must add my two cents. Putting myself into a potentially embarrassing situation has helped my confidence, even if I failed. I remember the first time I approached a table of hot girls and tried to break the ice. Was awkward and just embarrassed myself but what I took away was confidence...confidence in that I'm capable of going outside my comfort zone and failing. Next time I'll be a little better at it and that's what I remind myself.
/r/seduction29/11/14 12:20 PM
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I understand where you're coming from but I feel like many may be missing out on a better life if they believed that medicine for depression would cause some kind harm. I took an antidepressant for a brief period after changing my diet and getting in great shape wasn't enough and I was only down due to my circumstances...wasn't chronic depression or mentally unbalanced. If a trusted therapist recommends the additional aide of medicine, there's a good reason and it should be seriously considered.
/r/seduction27/11/14 11:29 AM
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I saw one while going through a divorce and highly recommend it. I got great unbiased advice from a third party on why I do the things I do and how to overcome my weaknesses. Medicine can do wonders as well if self-help isn't enough.
/r/seduction27/11/14 01:32 AM
0

If you don't know why they're not showing interest then it's a guessing game as to what's holding them back and any success at that point is primarily luck. Like another said, social proof could get her to engage again but tbh it's time wasted trying to figure out what's going on in her mind because there are literally millions of possibilities. Don't feel like it's all the sudden your mission to win her over just because she isn't interested.
/r/seduction22/11/14 11:29 AM
1

Don't do a movie for the first date! It's hard to establish Kino in that setting with someone you just met. Movies are for established couples far as I'm concerned.
/r/seduction19/11/14 12:38 PM
6

Gigity.
/r/seduction18/11/14 10:15 AM
79

What music have you been listening to lately? What've you been doing with your free time lately? What kind of vibrator have you been using lately? The purpose is to get them to think and invest in the conversation as opposed answering the same question she always gets asked. Instead of saying pop music she'll say Lorde and you can be like omfg do you who Lorde really is? Instead of saying go out to dinner with friends she'll say working late hours to get a project done. This gives you more to wo…
/r/seduction16/11/14 11:50 PM
147

Whatever you ask, just end it with "lately".
/r/seduction16/11/14 05:29 PM
1

Time for a good self evaluation. Check out your clothing, grooming, etc before moving on to your game if that's really how you feel.
/r/seduction08/11/14 12:20 PM
1

Nobody magically gets a girlfriend without effort exerted so pickup is a necessity. The people on this sub make more of an effort than others to be better at it. Some are naturals, some learn it, some better themselves, and some are just socially awkward. For everyone except the naturals, sometimes we're forcing something that isn't familiar to us and it can come across a number of ways. Your wingman was obviously trying very hard to impress both you and the ladies and it came across as creepy. …
/r/seduction26/10/14 04:55 PM
2

I gotta sat I've been there before but as kindly as I can say it, this shouldn't be posted in seduction.
/r/seduction30/09/14 03:34 AM
1

I drink a giant glass of water after every couple beers. Works like a charm and I avoid the hangover.
/r/seduction14/09/14 08:58 PM
1

All I can imagine is that your body language and energy level didn't match her expectations or she wasn't feeling fresh and didn't want to progress. What's communication been like since?
/r/seduction14/09/14 05:37 PM
2

There's tons of info in the sidebar but essentially it starts from the moment you're together. Constant physical touching is necessary for escalation otherwise any physical advance out of the blue will come as a surprise and quite possibly backfire. Sitting together on a couch, hold her hand and maybe give it a massage, rub her leg starting with the knee and move upwards...there's no need to say anything to do either of these so don't feel like you have to provide a reason for touching her in th…
/r/seduction14/09/14 12:35 PM
1

Had you met her in person beforehand?
/r/seduction14/09/14 12:10 PM
1

I've run into this as well but you can use it to your advantage. If they think this from the start and still want to see you, then play the part, push your comfort level, see what you can get away with because they want to have an experience.
/r/seduction01/09/14 03:47 PM
1

This coupled with the massive collection of meta data and the existence of IARPA is terrifying.
/r/seduction01/09/14 02:37 AM
2

Seriously. Cold calling in particular is all about building rapport and trust in a very short time period in order to influence the other party.
/r/seduction10/08/14 02:43 AM
8

Read sales books...principles are very similar.
/r/seduction09/08/14 03:38 PM
1

Assume rapport. Not attraction but rapport. This should help ease the pressure and with practice, speaking with a stranger whether its a grocery clerk or chic will become stress-free. Assume every person you encounter is a friend therefore you can skip the dull pleasantries. I've been in sales for years and this is what helped me and countless others as written in numerous books.
/r/seduction31/07/14 01:42 PM
1

You won't get laughed at...remove that as even a remote possibility.
/r/seduction06/07/14 04:10 PM
1

great advice
/r/seduction06/07/14 04:09 PM
2

I still have baggage and it's been years. Don't wait for it to disappear or you're giving up a lot of opportunity for self-improvement which is a big part of seduction. I signed up for online dating to get my mind in a better place after my divorce and it worked wonders. There are a lot of women on there who are in the same boat as you so don't fret about baggage.
/r/seduction06/07/14 04:07 PM
2

I used to talk myself out of making a move due to the fear of rejection as well. Realize that later you'll be more upset for not having tried than trying and not everything going perfectly. When you try, what you're really doing is experimenting. Later, you asses what worked and what didn't and mentally make note so that next time you increase your success rate. You know you're timid so you shouldn't be surprised if you don't end up taking her home that night and fucking her brains out. Also, yo…
/r/seduction06/07/14 04:03 PM
1

A decent car is all that's needed to be perceived as a possibility. If you're driving a beater 88' Camry then you need to focus on your career. If you drive a Lambo then you may get some get women interested in you if you happen to pull up to the entrance of the club and they see you while they're waiting in line. Outside of that, personally I don't think it matters.
/r/seduction06/07/14 03:54 PM
8

A friend of mine has always had women attracted to him and scored lots of pussy yet he wasn't the most interesting person in the world. I always asked him what he would say to them and never got useable advice. What I did notice was that he was upfront/straightforward and that's what worked. I'm attractive and had trouble because I didn't have a lot of confidence. Through therapy I learned that my childhood was rougher than I thought it was and that's what led to the lack of self-esteem. What I'…
/r/seduction06/07/14 03:43 PM
3

Having guys for years compliment them on their looks and throw themselves at them will do it. Putting yourself in their shoes, or a role reversal imaging yourself as George Clooney for example, will help one gain perspective. Doing so as helped me evaluate what I did and didn't do wrong in pickup.
/r/seduction10/05/14 11:10 PM
1

I want to say yes, but every experience I can think of pulls from something already listed in the sidebar.
/r/seduction10/05/14 10:45 PM
1

I read this in a middle eastern voice with very bad English.
/r/seduction08/05/14 09:38 PM
1

You can't Kino when you're sitting across from her! I even tell them its against my rules to eat dinner on the first few dates. Go to a bar and drink, get loose, get her to relax, and escalate.
/r/seduction08/05/14 09:26 PM
0

Then why are you posting on here? This has provided no benefit to those looking to improve their game. Eye contact? Yeah we got that. Basically a girl approached you because you stared at here.
/r/seduction08/05/14 09:14 PM
2

My go to for quick escalation is a hand on the knee followed by moving up the thigh on following touches. Obviously you both need to be sitting or you'll look retarded. For me, it works really well if everything else is in place.
/r/seduction07/05/14 07:26 PM
1

We need to create the seddit equivalent of History 2 Channel.
/r/seduction30/04/14 09:53 PM
20

The appearance of being fun, popular, and attractive helps. I remember one instance that didn't turn into anything but was a sticking point for me. Was late to join friends (guys and girls) at the bar. They were at a high top and one at the bar itself. I came in with a big smile and greeted everyone at the high top and then the bar. I had everyone's attention as I told them about a date I literally just ended before arriving and had them laughing. Throughout the story I kept noticing a hot girl …
/r/seduction01/02/14 02:05 PM
2

I typically escalate by just giving them a reaffirming touch on the thigh when they say something funny, interesting, etc. After a few times it becomes this unspoken game where she begins to do the same to me. Then you leave your hand on her thigh longer, pull her closer to you, hold her hand some...generally just build from it and watch her reciprocate.
/r/seduction01/02/14 12:22 AM
2

As a guy commenting on women, their kissing is usually a good indicator for me. If they're immediately jamming their tongue down my throat I know its going to be rough sex. Soft kisses with no tongue and I assume I'm not getting head and doing most of the work. Slow buildup from soft kisses to some tongue, foreplay is gonna be good. Obviously there's no science to it and its far from 100% accurate but it at least gives me a general idea of what to expect. Other things to take into consideration …
/r/seduction30/01/14 08:00 PM
1

Can you provide some examples of posts you'd want to see on here? I feel like this sub has been sort of hijacked by people who just don't understand seduction and its a nuisance to those who do. Personally I'm against turning this into a sub that provides relationship advice...that's currently a byproduct of what's currently offered. I personally created a post on here a couple months ago praising how the information on here translated into a great relationship.
/r/seduction14/01/14 06:27 PM
1

I take the generic time release of welbutrin to avoid that altogether. Also note that some generics are better than others due to how they're manufactured. When I'm feeling down, I usually write down some short-term, easily attainable goals to build confidence back up and/or read a self help book.
/r/seduction14/01/14 12:43 PM
1

I started taking antidepressants after working out, seeing a psychologist, etc. wasn't enough. Venlafaxine at first which made it almost impossible to cum but worked like magic. It works to alleviate both depression and anxiety. Eventually I couldn't take the sexual side effects and switched to wellbutrin. It works, just not as effective as venlafaxine. I have a prescription for clonazepam but that shit is so strong I rarely take one. Anyways, I'm dealing with situational depression and have lea…
/r/seduction14/01/14 04:27 AM
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I had a short lived fling with an older woman years ago. I worked at a place she frequented so she knew my income level and that she made significantly more. She paid for everything and even wanted to go on trips/cruises with me, her paying of course. Relationship was purely sexual. I didn't treat her any differently but I think the fact that she had a good 15 years on me, I was like 22 and worked in the service industry, and she owned her own business, It was expected she pay. Now had she been …
/r/seduction13/01/14 04:59 PM
7

Think about it like this. Your heater broke and you have to hire someone to come and fix it. Will you hire the guy who just graduated with no real experience or the guy who says he does this kind of work all the time? When you come across casual and confident, it puts people at ease.
/r/seduction11/01/14 01:51 PM
1

Most importantly, don't wait another minute to start escalating using the advice already given...start making your move now so it doesn't come as a shock to her. If she likes it great! If she doesn't, well you can stop wasting your time and move on to the next one.
/r/seduction08/01/14 05:19 PM
1

I do my best to make sure the intentions are clear before going back to my or her place. I rarely come up with an excuse to go back to my place and instead just invite them over so "the night doesn't end". As soon as we enter the place, I'll start kissing her and escalating until we're getting undressed. I try not to waste any time between getting home and making a move because it just makes things awkward if you wait.
/r/seduction06/01/14 10:44 PM
1

I understand where you're coming from and in certain scenarios that's the way to go. HOWEVER, when you're out at a club, bar, etc. and have just met her, you need to introduce sexual content early so she knows that you're a prospect. If you come across as friendly and just making chit chat, she's going to assume you won't make a move and therefore look for someone who will. I've been on both sides of this and can say its better to introduce sexual content than hope that your witty banter will wi…
/r/seduction04/01/14 03:17 PM
1

I did the bowling alley a couple times but found it awkward when we had to keep breaking conversation to bowl. I didn't feel like we could get a good vibe going unless we just quit bowling and sat there.
/r/seduction03/01/14 01:01 PM
9

Great point but I feel like most of these will be too generic to backfire much. I have certain things that I keep to myself for your exact reason because should it become popular, I'm gonna look like a tool.
/r/seduction03/01/14 12:51 PM
5

I almost always go to a bar first and preclude it with asking if she'd rather be in her neck of the woods as opposed to mine. Once that's determined, I look for a spot where the bar has good reviews and is within short walking distance of another. Drinks ease the tension, you aren't buying her dinner and watching each other eat, and if the date isn't working, you can stay and try to open a new set by making fun of what just happened. If the dates going well but she looks a little bored, its eith…
/r/seduction03/01/14 12:44 PM
1

Thought this was relevant to those with approach anxiety
/r/seduction26/12/13 06:50 PM
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Where are you finding these women? If that's all there was, the world would be filled with single men and women but you and I both know that isn't the case. On another note (maybe related) why is your name 'foxyfantastic'?
/r/seduction20/10/13 11:45 AM
3

Glad to hear it man! I tell you, the most beneficial read was 'How to win friends and influence people' which I'm sure is mentioned in a sidebar here somewhere.
/r/seduction19/10/13 10:45 PM
3

Haha that's common place here I guess. I've posted two or three FR's total but haven't been inclined to post more.
/r/seduction19/10/13 10:41 PM
5

Early 30's
/r/seduction19/10/13 10:38 PM
134

"Will I later regret not trying it" is what I ask myself.
/r/seduction18/10/13 09:46 PM
4

I gotta admit, there was nothing of value there. The author concluded with, 'build your confidence, then study and practice using body language' with only a sentence or two previously mentioning what works.
/r/seduction15/10/13 02:24 AM
6

Steve Schiffman wrote a great book on cold calling. In always be closing, his principle states that you're never trying to close the deal right then and there, but to instead always be progressing towards the next step in order to ultimately close the deal.
/r/seduction21/09/13 12:47 PM
2

Cold calling really is a great stepping stone into seduction. You learn to deal with rejection, start picking up body language better than before, learn to bullshit to keep the conversation going in order to build rapport, and so on. I believe what's hardest for most is being comfortable with rejection. I'm convinced that if I'm rejected, one of two things happened; she either wasn't right for me to begin with or I didn't open correctly. You'll know if its the latter and should then try to corre…
/r/seduction21/09/13 12:43 PM
3

I say we drop our cars off so we're just in one, that way we keep the conversation going on our way to the next place. It's either her place or mine based on logistics. If hers, ask to use the bathroom then if she has anything to do a shot with to try and get settled in. If not, then you've got another chance when you return later on.
/r/seduction19/09/13 12:25 AM
2

It was more of a tease and on top of the underwear. Spoke to a friend and it appears her period kicked it and said friend got her a taxi.
/r/seduction15/09/13 12:10 AM
2

I've been told by others I'm attractive all my life yet I suffer from depression and lack of self confidence. Back in high school I could have killed it but was oblivious to the signs. Hell there was even a brief rumor I was gay. For years, the only girls I dated were those who were closest to me whether it be through a friend, class, or neighbor. People who don't know me assume I'm a player. They assume my dates are supermodels. When I go out in the field, women have their guards up around me u…
/r/seduction11/09/13 06:54 PM
1

The real trick is learning how to stay on the edge, or ride the wave. Just tell her not to do anything, clamp down your PC, and ride it.
/r/seduction12/08/13 11:31 PM
2

I monitor my breathing. When it's a short and fast (gigity) I'm more likely to cum but when I slow it down and take longer breathes I can go longer without stopping. Oh and learn to flex your PC (pee) muscle. Whenever pissing, stop and start.
/r/seduction12/08/13 11:29 PM
1

Great idea to get the ball rolling but more importantly, demonstrate social proof.
/r/seduction12/08/13 08:15 PM
1

Right there with ya
/r/seduction11/08/13 11:31 PM
1

Coworkers and coed softball
/r/seduction11/08/13 02:59 AM
0

You're an idiot.
/r/seduction10/08/13 09:41 PM
6

Agree 100%. I really don't know why the white knight circle jerk is continuing when there are other subs to appease them. The OPs post is great and unless someone has actually been working on pickup they need to keep their mouth shut and realize this advice is helpful in many aspects of relationships not just limited to pickup. Hell just looking back at my marriage there are many points the OP states that I wish I knew back then in order to keep the attraction alive.
/r/seduction10/08/13 09:39 PM
1

Can't believe I just read all 15 pages...very entertaining. Going to try it this weekend exactly as stated. Now if I can just master the underlook while holding
/r/seduction09/07/13 01:15 AM
1

I know the feeling and excitement. I divorced a couple years after moving to a new city and started going out before signing up for online dating. My first date I f-closed and was so excited I jerked off before going to bed that night, without, porn.
/r/seduction09/07/13 12:34 AM
1

I posted on that thread praising the OP for the balls it took. I tried a similar approach years ago but didn't have any luck with it. Someone commented on my post saying something along the lines that I don't know shit about seduction (comment now deleted) and feel it's just as bad as claiming an OP's story is fabricated. That's not promoting the art of seduction nor is it helpful in any sense. Since getting divorced I've found this sub incredibly helpful and have learned a lot from it. To claim…
/r/seduction09/07/13 12:17 AM
-4

Man I gotta give you credit for keeping at it after the first response. You're an inspiration
/r/seduction07/07/13 08:53 PM
10

I believe its based more on your facial expression; I'm standing here trying to do eye expressions and it ain't working. The only eye expression I can imagine in this context is avoiding going wide-eyed or Skeptical Fry.
/r/seduction07/07/13 11:54 AM
10

On a side note, if the reservation has to be made days in advance then call an hour beforehand and proceed with small talk so you know the same hostess will be there
/r/seduction01/06/13 10:55 AM
1

Do all your shopping at Target. I've never met a girl who didn't love that store. Try to go between 5 & 7pm.
/r/seduction23/05/13 08:47 PM
5

Let's not forget guilt too
/r/seduction20/05/13 01:13 PM
2

I've experienced similar but never with that kind of aggression. From what you described, I would have grabbed her hand and took her elsewhere in the bar but I wasn't there to read the situation so don't know if that would've worked. In normal situations, I'd just assert that they're interrupting you and ignore them.
/r/seduction11/05/13 02:43 PM
1

I've gotten the same reaction when I drove an S2000. Some just love convertibles. Want a bike but know its suicide
/r/seduction08/05/13 08:06 PM
1

The atmosphere you're in will greatly affect your results and state of mind. It takes acceptance of what this all really is, a game, before it becomes fun. Work on your day game for a little while. Go to a Target where women don't have their guards up and get some practice in a no pressure environment. Clubs can be brutal and I personally don't go unless I'm in the right state of mind. If you do go, practice on some fat girls and work your confidence up before going after the ones you're attract…
/r/seduction05/05/13 02:02 PM
3

This is great advice for those who are normally quiet in social settings. Of course you don't want to get carried away like others stated but that shouldn't come easy to anyone having difficulty speaking up in normal conversation.
/r/seduction03/05/13 05:13 PM
4

One thing I feel really needs to be emphasized is the guy qualifying the girl. It shows his independence, confidence, and proves that he's not going to sacrifice his integrity to please someone else. Further, it's intriguing...what makes this guy so great that he's not bending over backwards to please me.
/r/seduction02/05/13 02:02 AM
2

Reading this I can't help but think of the movie Drive...he had it mastered! Always wanted to try but this post gave me the boost. Do you believe the silence makes you intriguing/mysterious or does it turn the tables so that she's trying to impress you?
/r/seduction22/03/13 10:04 PM
-38

You got some great teeth. I want my tongue to get to know them better Edit: I am never deleting this post...think it's funny as hell
/r/seduction10/03/13 02:46 AM
1

I would put How to Win Friends at the top of the list and add The Science of Changing Your Mind. Great book that explains how your mind works to better apply all other knowledge.
/r/seduction09/03/13 03:31 PM
1

Rejection is part of the game and not letting it affect you is the most important part!
/r/seduction08/03/13 10:42 PM
1

I typically touch them as a reward when they say something I agree with. I've found it's like giving a dog a treat and they seek more if they're interested.
/r/seduction08/03/13 10:40 PM
1

To elaborate, as guys we aren't as picky when it comes to women. At a bar, it basically comes down to looks for us. If every woman you hit on was immediately attracted to you the world would be a much different place. Just simply move on and consider your time barely wasted.
/r/seduction08/03/13 10:37 PM
1

I'd thrive on it but not expect it. Treat her like a bro and see where it goes. Any time I'm rejected I try to figure out what I did right and wrong and make immediate adjustments when out. It's like fine tuning your game.
/r/seduction08/03/13 10:33 PM
1

A friend of mine would hit on ugly chics at first whenever he went out to build his confidence for the night.
/r/seduction07/03/13 04:22 PM
1

I begin with touching the knee. When she says something interesting or funny I put my hand on it briefly to show both interest and approval of what she just said. I feel that this motivates her to keep seeking your approval for the reward. I'll do this a few times to gauge her comfort level and then go for the thigh. Eventually I'll just rest my hand there. I pull away after a while and they almost always reciprocate. After that happens I just look for the opportunity to go on for a kiss. I gues…
/r/seduction27/02/13 12:08 PM
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