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glass_hedgehog/r/MensRights30/05/12 02:55 AM
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As a woman, I get pissed off when other women talk about how having sex with men while drunk is rape. Its not, in most cases. If a woman and a man are both equally drunk, and its consensual, then its not rape. A woman can't argue that she was too drunk to give consent if the man was too drunk to work out how drunk is too drunk to give consent. As far as I'm concerned, unless the woman was drugged or is drunk and saying no/fighting against the sex, most drunk sex is consensual. Now, if the man is…
/r/MensRights18/07/12 10:13 PM
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When making the page, try not to be polarizing. Women respond to mens rights issues much better if it doesn't turn into an "us versus them" rant. Rather than post a link to some news story about how some psychopath woman got sole custody of her children, talk about how the statistics show that men traditionally get fewer custody rights after a divorce. Etc.
/r/MensRights18/07/12 10:05 PM
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Don't lie about being drugged when you had bad judgement and drank too much. Don't forget! Sex isn't rape just because you're drunk! While I think this whole thing is a little condescending, and should be viewed in the same light as the "Don't rape!" posters you see targeted towards men (because really, they're the same thing), I do think that there is a problem with alcohol and sex being mixed and automatically concluded to be rape. Women are grown ups. Alcohol doesn't make you do things you wo…
/r/MensRights18/07/12 09:43 PM
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Okay, way to go, finding two threads in, how many are on 2XC? I never said they didn't exist, just that I don't come across them often. I don't actively seek them out.
/r/MensRights30/06/12 03:13 AM
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I honestly haven't seen a whole lot of that.
/r/MensRights30/06/12 01:40 AM
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I would agree with this. Often, a MRA on 2XC will try to turn a conversation into "What about the men!?" And its just not appropriate because 2XC is a place for women to discuss women's issues. Its the same reason why I shouldn't come here or to OneY and say, "Well the issue of ovarian cancer is awful and it needs to be addressed." They are spaces for men to talk about men's issues. Both sides could stand to be more understanding about this. That being said, there is another reason why I think m…
/r/MensRights29/06/12 11:40 PM
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If you were to crosspost this two 2XC, it would definitely offer you a different opinion on the matter. They would probably agree with you that both sides need to work together to gap all gender imbalances, but they would also probably take issue with your image of a feminist. I say, give it a try. But if you do give it a try, be prepared for people to tell you what they believe feminists are.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 03:38 AM
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vast majority of people choose that lifestyle.
/r/MensRights26/06/12 06:40 PM
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There is such a thing as paternity leave. After my mom stopped breastfeeding me, she went back to work and dad went on paternity leave. But that is something else to consider--women tend to stay at home with the infant to breastfeed, which is something the husband/partner cannot do. I still think we need something more akin to France. Paid maternity and paternity leave for the first x number of weeks, and then free day-care so both parents can safely return to work and not pay out the ass to mak…
/r/MensRights26/06/12 06:38 PM
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My dad was a stay at home dad for basically the same reason as you. Mom had a job and dad didn't yet. They had just moved from Florida to Kentucky to be closer to family. I hear a bunch of stories about Dad staying home to take care of me. Once he forgot I existed and left the house, only to get half way down the street and turn around in a furry. Mom still laughs about coming home to find me naked and barefoot, covered in mud, riding our doberman Bandit. Your kid will appreciate you for all you…
/r/MensRights18/06/12 05:21 AM
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I'd be happy to explain my side more, but I'd rather do it in a private message. I'm not sure if you actually want to hear it, though.
/r/MensRights31/05/12 06:38 AM
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I like how well thought out this response is, and I very much appreciate it. I feel rather passionately about this subject, and that sometimes limits the realm of creative thought. I like most of what you said, and can certainly see a case for all of it. My sticking point is still this, though. The end result of sex is pregnancy. We, as a society, have developed reliable birth control and contraceptive techniques, but that doesn't change the end result of sex. The catholic in me (non-practicing …
/r/MensRights31/05/12 05:48 AM
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When the cottage industry system was becoming obsolete, the average spinner was a man. It wasn't until the installation of a massive-scale factory system that women and children were employed.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 07:48 PM
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Well, what are your thoughts on the issue?
/r/MensRights30/05/12 07:43 PM
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Yes. And it seems like this is something people don't understand. This was the basis for my initial dislike/misunderstanding for this subreddit. Its something that more people should know.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 06:43 PM
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This was definitely helpful.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 06:41 PM
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Thanks for the response. :)
/r/MensRights30/05/12 05:48 PM
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I didn't like the sound of what I thought was patriarchy. I believe that is a misconception many people over at 2X have, and many people who have been hanging out with feminists have. That has been debunked for me in this thread, of course.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 05:47 PM
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Its cool.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 05:46 PM
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The Feminist Movement has reinforced that mistake all over. If you look at anti-rape campaigns, they mostly say "Dear men, stop raping women," implying men are not influenced by anything but themselves. Except the decisions people make are influenced by many different things throughout their lives, things the Feminist Movement ignores because it's easier to simply blame men for their problems. This is what I got into a fight with 2X over three different times. I advocated violent-crime preventio…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 05:45 PM
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I'll never advocate quotas. Honestly, as a socialist, that feels like a dirty word to me. I really feel like, on some level, there is going to me sexism the higher up you go, based on a historic domination by men. But that's not really the point, I suppose. I posted that bit so that I could prompt conversation, and it certainly worked. Thank you for your response.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 05:44 PM
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could it also a sign that women don't want these jobs and associated sacrifices/responsibilties? Sacrifices aside, and all things being equal, I'd still say there's probably an imbalance. If only because of the "Men's club" mentality that permeates through these sort of things. Not the same, but an anecdote--My mom was a professional in the real estate business. She was asked to come out to a conference to give a presentation. After her presentation, she went back to the bar and ordered a beer. …
/r/MensRights30/05/12 05:42 PM
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Absolutely no offense taken, I am sorry if my tone seemed to imply any. No, its fine, I just feel like I'm walking on eggshells after recent 2X stuff. I did not mean to imply everything the government does somehow favors women more See, this is exactly what I thought you meant. Thank you for clearing that up. I was hoping you could clarify your belief that women have fewer rights, as it conflicts with my own. I'm not sure I'd say I believe women in the US or western europe have more legal rights…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 05:39 PM
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I touched upon it in the thread already. I think its the one place I've hit a sore spot on this thread, which was not my intention at all and now I feel awful for bringing it up, since it sort of undermines my whole premise of "I'm not here to argue." You can easily find it. Its the only one of my comments that "scored below the threshold."
/r/MensRights30/05/12 05:34 PM
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Child support is a legal construct. Why shouldn't men have an equal share in the consequences of consensual sex?
/r/MensRights30/05/12 05:31 PM
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If you don't want to pay child support, don't have sex. Sex leads to babies.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 06:35 AM
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I'm not a feminist. I believe in equality (mostly, save one issue). I came here searching for what this subreddit believes. Both genders have their struggles. I'm not convinced one is worse or harder than the other. At least not in the US or Western Europe. I came here with a lot of misconceptions. You all have provided me with a lot of answers, and I have found that we, on the whole, agree a lot. We don't agree on everything, and yall are citing some statistics I've never seen before. It seems …
/r/MensRights30/05/12 06:17 AM
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I don't want to be obligated to child support when I'm not ready to have a kid if a condom breaks and the woman unilaterally decides to go through with pregnancy. The end result of sex is pregnancy. Period. If you are not equipped to deal with this, do not have sex. I have a friend, Matt, who teaches at a military base in Japan. His big thing with his group is: don't have sex if you don't want a baby. You can have sex for pleasure, but expect a kid as a result. When my SO and I started dating, w…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 06:11 AM
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I don't think women's issues are worse. I'm not particularly convinced that men's issues are worse. We all have issues. Society has issues. We can work to better everyone's lives.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 06:00 AM
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I think it's sort of gross to discuss equality but then to mention high flyer disparity rather than underclass disparity - you know the people with the real problems, who really need help. I was just trying to get a conversation started. I am a socialist. I believe in social programs to help everyone. I am sorry that I offended you.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 05:59 AM
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I'm not sure what specifically I could ask him that hasn't already been addressed. Why? Is there a topic you'd like to discuss?
/r/MensRights30/05/12 05:58 AM
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The system needs changing, and that includes holding female military members just as accountable and responsible for their decisions and productivity as men are held to. I agree
/r/MensRights30/05/12 05:08 AM
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I looked at the mens rights subreddit, and did not feel as though I understood enough. I had some bad assumptions going into it, and the posts here have helped clear those up.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 05:08 AM
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but a witch is a woman, so i would expect a witch hunt to end with the killing of a woman and not a man. Strictly speaking, this is not true. There were male witches and they were burned at the stake. The victims tended to be women because it was easier for women to fall outside of the social norm, as they had more restrictions placed upon them. That being said, men could also fall outside of that social norm and, ultimately, be tried of witchcraft. i think you need to ask yourself who really ma…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 05:07 AM
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Very well put together, thank you. I believe in egalitarianism in almost everything. My one hold up on total egalitarianism is abortion and the rights to a woman's reproductive health. But otherwise, I don't believe there should be difference among the genders. Thank you for your time and effort.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 04:57 AM
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Nah, I think I'm good. Thank you so much. :)
/r/MensRights30/05/12 04:49 AM
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Thank you for your well thought out reply. It was very enlightening.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 04:41 AM
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For me, this forum represents the belief that men deserve to be treated as human beings and women need to be treated as adults The issue I got into over at 2X was that I was advocating minimizing your risk of becoming the victim of violent crime. I was saying that men and women should learn self-defense or just not accept drinks from strangers to avoid some rape or violent crime incidents. I never said you could stop it all, and I never blamed the victim. But I got some pretty nasty comments. Th…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 04:38 AM
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Transgender? Awesome!
/r/MensRights30/05/12 04:34 AM
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Everyone is responding wonderfully. Thank you. I am more than satisfied.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 04:33 AM
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I agree with you 100% I do have a question about why you call yourself a Egalitarian MRA. Above I posted this. I would love to hear your opinion on it. I decided I would ask these questions because it just seemed weird to me that there was a men's rights group for the reasons stated above. The more I hear from the men of this subreddit, the more I feel as though we agree on many things--that human rights need to be address, and that there needs to be equality amongst people from different gender…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 04:33 AM
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Oh man, I already responded to all of this above. Thank you for your input!
/r/MensRights30/05/12 04:31 AM
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As far as job risks are concerned, I believe that everyone should have the option to take a risky job. No one should be force to, or not to take a job that comes with many risks. Don't you think it is reasonable that men would be more likely to reach the top of their companies, since they are willing to sacrifice more of their lives for it? I think, in saying this, you are ignoring the women who do take risks and who do work their asses off to be at the top, but who still don't make it because t…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 04:30 AM
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It is equally true that while women should be able to serve on the front lines, both genders should be subject to the draft. It is true that while women should be able to be CEO's, women should also serve equally in dangerous and life threatening "blue collar" occupations that are currently mainly served by men. It reasonable to suggest that men and women should have equal opportunity to get a post-secondary education. It is true that while women should be encouraged to take up careers in math a…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 04:13 AM
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I would definitely agree to meeting physical requirements.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 04:11 AM
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most jobs were back breaking, highly dangerous and risky, and required a sufficient degree of strength. because of this inherent job requirement, most of them fell to men. I'm going to have to quasi-disagree with you here. You are technically right, most jobs were hard labor. But others weren't. Two I am thinking of in particular are: Weaving and spinning. This female-dominated cottage industry was taken over and dominated by men when it became possible to employ steam engines and water mills an…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 04:09 AM
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My SO hates the wage gap data, and I have to agree with his point. The wage gap is biased. What needs to be looked at is how much money men make in relation to women in the same job with the same level of education/experience. Some claim that women are forced to take poor paying jobs. However, few cry when they realize that the overwhelming majority of on the job deaths are those of males. I guess the other side to that coin would be that anyone should be allowed to judge for themselves if a job…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 03:47 AM
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Alright. Thank you for your answers. :)
/r/MensRights30/05/12 03:34 AM
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On a slightly different note, and I'm sorry for the double comment, I would ask this: Why would you label yourself "mens rights" rather than "human rights"? But that's more of a logistical question, and you can ignore it if you'd like.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 03:31 AM
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I can dig that.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 03:30 AM
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Well, I guess I want to know, what rights do you, as a man, want?
/r/MensRights30/05/12 03:26 AM
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As a result, laws, legislation, and the cultural narrative perpetuate a situation where men are forced to bend over to become a pedestal for women. Can you give me examples? Honestly, when I look at the world, I see a biased towards men. Men can serve on the front lines. Men have acting/singing/etc careers past the age of 40. Most CEOs are men. Men aren't hyper-sexualized to the point where it is impossible to find a real man on the cover of a magazine. Certain jobs are skewed toward the male de…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 03:21 AM
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Here's the best I can give you. Warning: it is very biased, and I know that. This is why i'm posting here. I am a history major. I just got out of an early modern europe class. The biased part: The rights women have had throughout the ages were atrocious. We were denied the rights to divorces, our own bodies, jobs, etc for centuries. All the while, our male counterparts enjoyed the right to divorces, our bodies, jobs, etc. The slightly less biased part: Of course nobody in early modern europe ha…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 03:16 AM
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Has the false-poster problem been a big issue recently? I know nothing about it. I'm sure /r/mensrights, like every subreddit, has its extremists. I hope every response is as encouraging as yours. Thanks!
/r/MensRights30/05/12 03:04 AM
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