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Off Topicgracienoob/r/TheRedPill02/12/21 06:35 AM
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Great post To add my thoughts: By postponing you are creating your own Schrodinger's box of if she says yes or no. If you value your own time, you'll realize that texting is a tool, not a way to build rapport from the comfort of your couch.
/r/seduction25/05/25 10:00 PM
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From my personal experience it is harder to actually build attraction and interest when approaching a group (more than one). I think this is due to the nature of having someone watching the actions of the woman you're approaching. I want to preface that, I in no way want to imply that women are judgmental and mean. I just want to get across that even among men, there is an aspect of saving face and ego in social interactions. This is what you're up against especially doing a COLD approach. When …
/r/seduction25/05/25 09:35 PM
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I think this poster is more blackpill than redpill. His advice is shallow and seems to be based more on theory rather than practice. There's absolutely no reason to not cold approach, it builds confidence and you have nothing to lose.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/21 07:56 PM
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Due to the low bioavailability of l-carnitine in pill form, I recommend 4,000mg. Supplementing garlic may also help reduce tmao.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/21 06:04 AM
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I'd agree to an extent, this was more in reference to game
/r/TheRedPill02/12/21 09:12 AM
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My post was meant to be a discussion around rooshes article. My thoughts are a proposition on the takeaways and if they are something others would consider a good measure. I understand and appreciate your thoughts about how notch count is not a good measure. But a notch is not always a ONS, could also be a past ltr. If you read the post protocol mentions, there are direct similarities to the article by roosh. Both reference a 25 notch count before ltr.
/r/TheRedPill02/12/21 09:01 AM
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I appreciate and understand the meaning behind this post. Although I rarely play video games any more, I won't ever subscribe to an all or nothing mentality. I learned the hard way that moderation trumps an all or nothing mentality any day.
/r/TheRedPill27/11/21 05:56 PM
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I think everyone here is missing the point. The fact is that there are some relationships that exist in the world in which a women will undoubtedly think you are THE best, not just her best. But these relationships are as rare as a winning the lottery. And unless you have the genetics/fame/social status, nothing with grant you her true "love", only her "love" for what she can achieve. There are definitely a few select women who would turn down Chris Even or whoever. Because they think the man th…
/r/TheRedPill26/11/21 10:21 AM
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I didn't mean any offense I was gerealizing maybe see a therapist
/r/seduction25/10/21 10:16 PM
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Welcome back brother, and good job! It seems this woman was using you for your laptop. Get rid of her and find some nicer girls.
/r/seduction25/10/21 10:03 PM
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When people say their "inner game" is lacking it points to one thing. A Lack of Action. Stop sitting and reading and thinking. Go and do something. If you're fat and live in your mom's basement then of course their "inner game" will be shit. What things are you DOING? You are your habits. short list for fixing this "inner game" you speak of: -workout. Like actually strive and see progress towards a better body. Jacked dudes are confident BECAUSE they're jacked. -Approach girls. The only way to g…
/r/seduction25/10/21 10:00 PM
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It's pretty solid advice for a noob who is to stuck into reading and not getting enough practice. The only thing I would say needs to be clarified is the time frame. Less than a month? what if you only approach 3 girls. Citing a specific volume that most men can hit and extrapolating that into a time frame would be better.
/r/seduction25/10/21 09:42 PM
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I'll give it back once you chat up 10 new girl, now go forth and spread your seed
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:54 PM
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TWO DAYS! she ain't into you, talk to more girls
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:52 PM
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"There is this girl" First mistake, talk to more girls
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:51 PM
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You're scared. I've been there to. You're subconsciously rejecting yourself so she doesn't reject you. Do what you want. I'd say go for it, don't be stuck in an endless loop of no experience hence rejecting yourself and still not getting experience.
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:49 PM
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Excuses. "I need something to practice with" You mean girls? Like the ones you walk by EVERYDAY on your way to campus. Grow a pair. The first sensei had no sensei.
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:45 PM
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Be the friend that you want to have as a friend. It seems you're new friend knows this, so learn from it. Your new friend is giving you value, be that guy.
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:43 PM
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You sound young so here is my advice. Your friends will always give you shit for doing things they never had the balls to do period. They hate us cause they aint us. If you got laid a ton they'd make fun of you to, but would you really care? You're on the right path, Don't give a fuck and keep at it
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:41 PM
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What do YOU want? sex; then just bang Relationship? Then spend more time together doing things. But make sure to bang, girls want sex too.
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:39 PM
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Practice how do you achieve more rally's in tennis? Practice How do you hit more homeruns in baseball? Practice
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:37 PM
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practice will make you understand. But for specifics, lower tone, direct eye contact, and a smirk. Can always clarify "coffee date"
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:35 PM
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no shit. you sound selfish. give value don't take value
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:32 PM
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oh you're right, it doesn't. I just kind of copied and pasted this from my cold approaching blog.
/r/seduction25/10/21 06:12 AM
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Keep at it brother! I don't always hit my approach goals it happens
/r/seduction25/10/21 06:08 AM
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We all get down bad sometimes. Why not bring this emotion into the weight room
/r/seduction25/10/21 06:06 AM
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your looks and behavior are completely separate on their own. looks can affect your behavior internally, that might be what your getting at. If your working out and eating right be patient. Actionable advice: count macros and calories everyday, and watch youtube videos so you're not wasting a second of time in the gym and with nutrition.
/r/seduction25/10/21 06:00 AM
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experience with women, or practice. There no such thing as a guy with good game and no experience. they are one and the same
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:53 AM
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You already know what to do. do it
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:52 AM
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date other girls
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:51 AM
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Fuck yes brother! Best advice? Keep approaching and have fun with it!
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:50 AM
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over, next
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:48 AM
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reschedule is a good thing, just be mindful
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:47 AM
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What's your volume? Cause I'm guessing you haven't talked to a hundred girls yet. Also fucking whip it out
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:46 AM
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Have you tried for hookups? Like have you met a girl at a bar and then asked her to come back to your place? don't shoot yourself in the foot and blame the world
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:43 AM
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I like it, very well thought out. I think men should also cold approach but this is a good alternative or start
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:40 AM
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DiCarlo Escalation Ladder: Concise and Emphasized Literally in this subreddit. good luck
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:38 AM
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what have you done for them? have you asked for help?
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:36 AM
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She doesn't want you. read it and read it again
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:35 AM
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Hell yeah bro! keep at it!
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:34 AM
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What's up with you? Bruh, how do you think men got laid before smart phones. That's right they went and talked to girls. Be the guy that creates this dramatic story you speak of.
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:32 AM
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You gotta take charge and make the first move. Whether it be touching kissing or banging
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:30 AM
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Medium is the message. She ain't into you. Next
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:29 AM
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workout
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:11 AM
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Talking, be a chatter box. Not annoying, but be bold and loud and funny. It might take a lot practice so start now
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:11 AM
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You are literally being a "wimp who complains about their looks" I mean that with tough love. If these are not girls you're actively perusing who cares.
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:08 AM
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No Literally she wanted your attention and validation. She got it now she on to the next. Best advice for you? on to the next. Get over yourself and talk to more girls
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:06 AM
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"hey, my name is x" That's it. To keep a conversation going practice. Approach a girl you don't like first. The more you approach the more practice you'll get and the easier caring a conversation will be. GUARANTEED
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:03 AM
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"we should get a coffee sometime" But say it in a way that she knows it's a date
/r/seduction25/10/21 04:59 AM
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Killing my "virgin" self didn't happen when I lost my virginity. It actually happened when I took responsibility for my lack of action. I started to self improve, get a better physique, and improve social skills. Then when the time came it felt natural like it was supposed to happen.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/21 12:30 PM
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Martial arts Go beat up grown men and get your ass beat
/r/TheRedPill23/07/21 03:56 PM
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You're contradicting yourself. Imagine this post if the girl came out to watch the movie with you and you got laid. Clearly you had time to watch a movie with a girl and get laid. I'm not saying it's a bad message, I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with admitting you want to get laid. Everyone has had dry spells and no one likes getting rejected. I'm just trying to make sure your ego is in check. Ego is what makes dudes blackpill and avoid rejection.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/21 06:29 PM
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I appreciate the post for what it is. I think it's good to recognize that you shouldn't simp for girls and cutting them out is a good choice sometimes. However. I think with this girl you cared too much. Sure she might be bad news anyways, but you should have other girls you're texting. I feel as if this was the only girl you took a shot at this week and kinda got butt hurt it didn't work out. I recommend having a plan for yourself on the weekend (friends, established plates, etc.). Then if you …
/r/TheRedPill19/07/21 06:16 PM
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I think you should stop making excuses. Either you'll eventually approach in the future and look back on time wasted. Or you'll never approach and live with regret. Rejection is better than regret. There's a reason no one argues with that phrase, deep down you know it's true.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/21 09:11 PM
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I was in a very similar position as you. I was a 23 transfer student last year. I went with an apartment and I think it worked out for the best. I brought girls back there no problem. I'm more introverted by nature and have friends in my hometown(short drive) I can always go drink with. Although I would have liked to make friends, I was too busy with school, lifting, girls, and work to make any close friends. Covid didn't help at all there either. I think you need to review why you're transferri…
/r/askTRP22/06/21 06:15 AM
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I started approach not too long ago. My thought process was: if I could approach during a pandemic, then approaching after pandemic would be much easier.
/r/askTRP08/12/20 04:05 PM
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Bigger neck and traps
/r/askTRP03/12/20 10:28 PM
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This really comes down to "can I open up to a girl?" Sure, it's your funeral
/r/askTRP03/12/20 07:07 AM
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It's good just skip the parts where he talks about girls and relationships
/r/askTRP29/11/20 03:34 PM
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Up to you, just stop think about it like you're getting "caught". Never apologize for desires and what you want
/r/askTRP27/11/20 11:14 PM
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Not really an answer, but don't look away next time. Just keep staring as they stare at you
/r/askTRP27/11/20 11:11 PM
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I'm not denying that, I'm speaking more about the average Joe that doesn't have model genetics. I'm also not speaking in terms of extremes. I think being really confident will help more than dropping a couple percent of body fat
/r/askTRP22/11/20 08:32 PM
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No, I'm dating a 6' girl and I'm 5'10. I think the fact I didn't mention it or care was attractive to her. I don't mind dating a taller girl, I train BJJ and choke out bigger opponents so it's not even a thought.
/r/askTRP22/11/20 07:07 PM
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I think it's a good point, but being in good shape helps your confidence. In my opinion your confidence is more attractive than your body, granted you don't look like shit.
/r/askTRP22/11/20 07:04 PM
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I thought I wanted to be the strong silent type, but then I realized that the only person like that is in movies. Quiet people seems more beta because they don't speak up. I've never experienced girls going to the guy that isn't entertaining or showing interest. "Silent type" means sitting on the sidelines, holding your drink, and watching the true alphas approach
/r/askTRP21/11/20 02:11 AM
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Game, also fucking then really good
/r/askTRP17/11/20 01:18 AM
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I don't know what to tell ya. I feel like I grew up thinking that I must be respectful to women especially in the bedroom. I guess I need start cumming on these girls and killing my inner beta. It just feels so weird that trp is actually true. I can't believe treating girls like fuck toys makes them want more. It feels like I'm living in a dream, a wet wet dream. It's incredibly surreal and a bit off putting being treated like an alpha
/r/askTRP16/11/20 05:35 PM
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Just try stuff You will fail, you will succeed, but you must keep trying. You don't need us to tell you what to do, you have already have the information. Trial and error my friend
/r/askTRP15/11/20 01:37 AM
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Recomping is the best thing to do in your position and you'll notice results a lot faster in the beginning
/r/askTRP15/11/20 12:02 AM
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Just do what you like. Someone once said treat them like a sex toy/fuck doll, this was amazing advice for me. I get to fuck them exactly how I want, they love getting ravaged, win-win. If you're not in to the dominance dynamic like most, you'll need to be more explicit. I find girls naturally submissive and wanting to be lead during sex. The farther from dominance the more communication you need. Not many girls are gonna throw you on the bed and ride you, at least not the girls I want to get wit…
/r/askTRP14/11/20 10:11 PM
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In my opinion you asked for her number too early. Usually if they avoid giving their number they're not interested or they're not worth the effort
/r/askTRP12/11/20 03:57 PM
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I've been there, persistence is key. How bad do you want it? I was going to do anything and devote years to daily cold approach, night game, and online dating. After a month or two I now have plates. I am a firm believer that if you want it you go get it. By all means quit, a man is not made by receiving handouts.
/r/askTRP12/11/20 02:34 PM
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I'm dating her and I want more experience with girls in general. Plus I like spending time with girls I'm banging, I'm not attached to any of my plates though.
/r/askTRP11/11/20 06:22 AM
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It was a weird dynamic. I felt their attraction to me and I thought my plate would react, but she was oblivious and just let you banter continue.
/r/askTRP11/11/20 04:56 AM
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My advice is to approach girls that are alone. Asd kicks in on group sets, especially if daygaming
/r/askTRP11/11/20 04:19 AM
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Kick her out Or you can be a good beta, keep your hands to yourself, and make sure she can do whatever she pleases.
/r/askTRP28/10/20 03:41 AM
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Where is the context? Why is she staying with you? Is she paying rent? Did you establish a flirtatious relationship off the bat? Why is she staying with you? Also why is she staying with you?
/r/askTRP28/10/20 03:38 AM
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Yes this happened to me. Escalated on first date, she retracted and said she was gay. Move on to the next and find the humor in it.
/r/askTRP25/10/20 02:31 PM
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Do what you want but don't lie to yourself. Did you really go monk mode so you wouldn't have sex with girls. I'm not saying your thoughts are inauthentic, just make sure your not letting your ego get the best of you. I think it's good you think highly of yourself, but in my opinion walking out on a date when she's 5 minutes late is a bit harsh for someone with no options. I'm not saying be desperate, but maybe put the ego aside and get some experience.
/r/askTRP24/10/20 11:51 PM
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I struggle with this myself. I know most guys are constant self improvement but I am not that. I believe in taking 1 step back 2 steps forward or else I'll burn out. I'd say fucking indulge a bit. Let that feeling that what you are doing is terrible build up. Then choose a day to say fuck it time to get back. Clean you place, get rid of bullshit, take out the trash, get on a good sleep schedule and keep going. Good luck, whatever you do don't lose sight of your goals
/r/askTRP24/10/20 11:44 PM
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If it has been happening long then maybe see a doctor. If it hasn't been that long then keep going. Experiment with diet, sleep, supplements, whatever.
/r/askTRP24/10/20 11:40 PM
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Got rejected and took a hit to the ego huh? Classic Now go do it 100 more times and report back your findings.
/r/askTRP24/10/20 11:37 PM
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Sounds like they are wrestling to be AMOG. Just keep your distance and don't get involved, I'm pretty sure most girls see straight through that behavior
/r/askTRP24/10/20 11:14 PM
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That's very true, this is where I've been leaning at while I've been noticing it today. I think I'll adopt a no mark policy. I think saying I don't do marks would cause dread as well.
/r/askTRP24/10/20 11:12 PM
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Make her suck it
/r/askTRP24/10/20 08:12 PM
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Rejection is better than regret. Short term you regret not going for it as you'll never know what could've happened. Long term you regret all of these opportunities going by, you'll be old someday and looking back on memories of being pussy instead of slaying it. Even if you get rejected a ton I'm sure you rather look back and know you tried. It's really terrifying to think about being old and reflecting on the fact that you never even had the balls to try.
/r/askTRP23/10/20 09:54 PM
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I feel like if you have good looks you wouldn't have to approach. They should come to you and flirt if you do
/r/askTRP23/10/20 09:46 PM
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If you for sure your calories are straight then be patient. When I was dieting sometimes the scale wouldn't go down or even go back up, but after weeks of that I would usually lose 4 pounds overnight. If you diet to hard your gonna fuck with your hormones and eat back everything you lost. I've done it twice it is fucking depressing. You might think your not gonna yo yo and you have strong will power, but the reason your still fat is cause you don't. Diet slow and sustainable. Worry more about pr…
/r/askTRP23/10/20 07:49 PM
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Nah I think you're going about it the wrong way. Monk mode is for hardcore incels or people with terrible logistics. You will find what you seek by pursuing women and bettering yourself. 5-6 months of fucking new girls and getting jacked? You'll laugh at this post looking back
/r/askTRP23/10/20 03:01 PM
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I don't either but it gets me pretty hard. I currently don't care to much about whether I orgasm or not, I just like having women submit to me. If your really worried about it then see a doctor. Personally I think it will sort itself out for me since I'm still fairly new to sex
/r/askTRP23/10/20 02:56 PM
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The classic advice for oneitis and breakups has always been FTOW
/r/askTRP23/10/20 02:53 PM
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I'd say abundance helps. You really don't care if you lose a girl if you've already got some.
/r/askTRP23/10/20 02:50 PM
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I'm in a similar situation. I had trouble with performance anxiety, what helped me is to focus on how good things feel. Making out feels good, getting head feels good, fucking feels good. When you think about how you are doing it or other things it takes you out of how good it feels. Remember when girls have sex with you they want to please you, that's why they will happily blow you. This is assuming genuine desire of course
/r/askTRP23/10/20 02:48 PM
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The advice I would give myself is to initiate. When I was a freshman I was a reactor. I let people introduce themselves to me and talk to me but never initiated myself. As a result of this my friends who did initiate were more socially savvy and popular than I was. My personal advice would be to initiate conversation, initiate hanging out. Of course lift, study, spin plates
/r/askTRP23/10/20 02:05 PM
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This is core of plate theory, I dislike that most people view girls as only plates once you've fucked them
/r/askTRP23/10/20 12:54 PM
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It's good to have a lot of friends, just make sure to have close friends. Also, don't burn bridges
/r/askTRP23/10/20 01:21 AM
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Fake it till you make it. I don't know about you but I'm definitely moving up in smv
/r/askTRP22/10/20 07:37 PM
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I never schedule first date for Saturday. A high smv man would have better things to do than spend his Saturday on a random girl.
/r/askTRP22/10/20 07:19 PM
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Blowjobs, have her blow you and just focus on relaxing while your lady makes love to your schlong
/r/askTRP22/10/20 03:57 AM
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I would just treat it as a shit test Good luck
/r/askTRP22/10/20 02:57 AM
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I say again, women make rules for betas and break rules for alphas.
/r/askTRP22/10/20 02:52 AM
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Is this a joke? Women make rules for betas and break rules for alphas. She did ask Brad pitt what his sign was before sucking him dry. And if she is actually crazy about stuff like that, then she is actually crazy
/r/askTRP22/10/20 02:37 AM
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Keep your head up and keep going. I remember someone said awhile back that when it rains it pours. I can personally attest to this. Good luck
/r/askTRP22/10/20 02:33 AM
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Give her a place and time, "let do x at x, meet me at x". The important thing here is to have options. The time spent worrying about this could be spent buying a tripod to take tinder pictures with. This could be spent cold approaching. I think the best way to think about girls is to always have another. I remember when cold approaching I wouldn't text a girl till I got another girls number. You need numbers, if your location doesn't offer it change it. If you don't want to change it then you do…
/r/askTRP21/10/20 11:11 PM
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If you got time and patience go for it. If you got plates and you'd be squeezing her in somewhere in your schedule, I'd just drop this one.
/r/askTRP21/10/20 10:59 PM
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Lol indeed. The rest of this is way worse. I'll save everyone's time. Read the damn sidebar
/r/askTRP21/10/20 07:28 PM
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There is this girl that I was talking to over IG for a couple weeks I didn't read past this. You should have exchanged a couple messages and setup a date over the course or a day or two
/r/askTRP21/10/20 07:25 PM
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I was fat, everything motivated me to lose weight. I would get fucking pissed about how I was insecure about my weight. No one insulted me or hurt my feelings more than I did. I lost weight with a purpose. You're a fat fucking piece of shit. The only thing that should be on your mind for the next 2 years is losing weight. Nothing else should matter in your life, I'm surprised your not already dead. Wake up, work out, eat right, repeat. Whatever you do don't cut calories to fast/too much. Slow an…
/r/askTRP21/10/20 07:20 PM
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Literally me until the last few months. About a year ago I decided to go to a big university of about 30k students transferring from 8k college. The difference is night and day. There is an abundant amount of girls, I just started going for everything pretty much whenever I could. I also took the that year before transferring to seriously improve myself. I used to be quite fat, now I almost have a full six pack. I used to be garbage at small talk, now I can keep a conversation going for hours. I…
/r/askTRP21/10/20 05:49 PM
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Wow, I'm not gonna lie you think like a loser. I wonder what thinking like a loser would make you. I think you need to fix your attitude and be more pragmatic. Complaining and bitching is what my sexless friends do.
/r/askTRP21/10/20 04:22 AM
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I've done about 40 approaches. From the girls I've gotten on a date, they hooked immediately and made it easy for me to see them again, hell one asked for MY number. Not saying your experience will be the same. But there are "yes" girls, but I've only got daygame dates from "fuck yes" girls I followed london daygame model
/r/askTRP21/10/20 03:53 AM
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I wouldn't say I think of myself as a fraud, quite contrary. I feel very confident in myself and with the girls that I date. I'm sure you know that some girls just aren't into you no matter how much you try or improve yourself. I just feel like the girls I'm dating are "yes" girls that are into me, and I feel like maybe there won't be more yes girls. I hope this makes sense. It's uncertainty that I can find more girls who are into me in the future. I was very unlucky with girls growing up despit…
/r/askTRP21/10/20 01:02 AM
1

How long have you been in the game? I currently have been giving it an honest effort for about 2-3 months. I hope it's a time related issue
/r/askTRP21/10/20 12:27 AM
3

Lmao, I was talking about my bjj training and she started talking about choking. Too bad she's taller than me so I can't get super fancy
/r/askTRP20/10/20 07:10 PM
1

Not really, are you spinning plates and getting intimate with girls. I'd say getting girls in bed truly pushed my mindset from "I'm never gonna get laid" to "I'm motherfucking Chad". Just keep going Rome wasn't built in a day
/r/askTRP20/10/20 05:44 PM
1

Do what you were gonna do if you had no girls in phone. Do you really have nothing better to do than twiddle your thumbs? If she don't show, go workout, come back and see the other girl. Fucking easy.
/r/askTRP20/10/20 01:43 PM
1

I was in this position last Sunday, I just set up a time with the second girl 2 hours later from the first girl. They both met up so double booking the same time would've shot myself in the dick.
/r/askTRP20/10/20 01:39 PM
1

Do you already know her? I tell my girls when and where to go, they sometimes don't respond until day of to say they are coming. This is because we already know each other
/r/askTRP20/10/20 01:35 PM
5

I'm 5'10 I fucked a 6 foot girl last night. She literally said I was a Chad. I've been improving myself non-stop the past year. Yes you can, for the love of God start today
/r/askTRP20/10/20 01:31 PM
0

I'm dating other girls, will probably be having sex with them this week I felt like I wasn't fucking her good enough. I felt like I could do more, I'm not sure if she was feigning her moans or not. She mentioned just getting out of a 5 year relationship so, I guess the competitive side in me wanted to fuck her better than her ex ever did. I think I'm just fucked up
/r/askTRP19/10/20 02:39 AM
9

I usually disguise it with mustache
/r/askTRP18/10/20 04:19 PM
5

Do what you can to look better, then stop thinking about it.
/r/askTRP18/10/20 01:09 PM
0

Maybe you weren't calibrated with escalation. Either way set up another date or invite her over
/r/askTRP17/10/20 01:30 PM
2

You want dates to be fun not fine. Fine doesn't get you laid.
/r/askTRP17/10/20 01:22 PM
1

Read some books on the topic, there's tons
/r/askTRP17/10/20 06:07 AM
1

I'm trying to figure this out myself, I think more push-pull and being more dominant helps
/r/askTRP17/10/20 06:05 AM
3

You sorta answered your own question. You have 0 girls but you say it's not worth your time. I was in the same boat and still kinda am. If your expecting girls to fall in your lap, good fucking luck. I went monk mode for about a year, got a good physique and now I'm chasing girls. I'm not smashing hot girls but I'm learning and having fun doing it. If it's purely about sex then by all means go for hookers, I'm certainly not gonna stop you. If you only care about having a nice fish then buy one, …
/r/askTRP17/10/20 06:03 AM
19

She probably said she had plans with her friend as a false time constraint. If it was a bad date she could bail and if it was a good date she would say something like "oh my friend has a thing we can hangout longer" Just my opinion
/r/askTRP17/10/20 05:53 AM
1

I do always try to meet in person, how should I respond. "Do you have a facebook, I just want to verify you are a real person and not a serial killer."
/r/askTRP17/10/20 12:57 AM
7

Always low effort, texting for logistics is truly the way to go. If she sends mixed signals and isn't giving you a number and agreeing to a date, you'll most likely never see her in person. Just my experience
/r/askTRP16/10/20 01:15 PM
15

In my experience sometimes a girl will display high interest just to see how much you invest. May not be this girl but something to keep in mind. Think about it like this: If you jump through her hoops will you really respect yourself?
/r/askTRP16/10/20 04:01 AM
2

I'm in the same boat, just gotta keep your head up and keep going.
/r/askTRP16/10/20 03:58 AM
4

Stoicism, it's out of your control. No point in worrying about things out if your control.
/r/askTRP16/10/20 03:55 AM
1

I guess, idk why she came back to my place. I told her I'd text my address and she can come of she wants. Maybe she's just desperate for attention
/r/askTRP16/10/20 02:46 AM
1

I'll edit my post but we were at my place holding each other for a good hour
/r/askTRP16/10/20 01:59 AM
5

Not the advice I wanted to hear, but the advice I need
/r/askTRP16/10/20 01:50 AM
0

You think it was good I didn't go for the make out then? We basically cuddled and talked, I'm pretty sure she wants something long term based on her online profile.
/r/askTRP16/10/20 01:48 AM
1

Yeah it was the first time I was intimate with her, didn't want to take any chances just yet with this scenario
/r/askTRP14/10/20 06:54 PM
1

Isolate, "let's go over here"
/r/askTRP14/10/20 06:21 PM
4

Yeah the fuck is wrong with you. You didn't stop once to ask yourself "do I like this girl?". You don't even know this girl and your investing a lot. I doubt you will ever see this girl, and if you do she gonna be squeezing you for money because this is chump behavior. You would have better odds inviting her over to your place straight up
/r/askTRP14/10/20 06:00 PM
24

Why are you focused on texting? Why not Her: I like you You: come over and prove it Something like that. What are you gonna do, have sex with her through your phone?
/r/askTRP14/10/20 05:56 PM
0

I'm in the same boat and I say absolutely yes. I realized for me it's not even about the sex, but the feeling of being desired. I find it awesome that girls genuinely enjoy my attention. But I'd say you should go with your gut
/r/askTRP14/10/20 03:38 AM
1

You realize how dumb this question is right? You asking random dudes on the internet if other random dudes on the internet should be listened to. How about figure it out for yourself, maybe try some stuff. This subreddit is far from what it used to be so taking any advice here as gospel will always hurt you. But what do I know, I'm just a random dude on the internet
/r/askTRP13/10/20 09:23 PM
1

Im not very experienced, but my vote goes for waiting a week. Also sidebar says not to set up a thing in advanced
/r/askTRP13/10/20 04:56 AM
2

Other than the fact you answered the question yourself. Use seeing couples to motivate you more. If I see a dude with a hot girl I'm not bashing on the dude. I instead am thankful that I'm not blue pilled. Think about how grateful you should be with the knowledge you have, you are literally out of the matrix. Also why do you give a fuck, you have better things to do
/r/askTRP13/10/20 04:55 AM
2

Look at london day game model. The reason you feel low value is because you are not providing value. Your cold approaches should be you adding things and conversation points. You can't just ask questions that quick. This is the equivalent of someone walking up to you and saying "entertain me, say something funny, contribute to this conversation because I don't want to" Put yourself in their shoes.
/r/askTRP13/10/20 04:45 AM
1

Sorry bro she's not interested. Start cold approaching and taking good pictures for tinder. Your goal shouldn't be hopefully getting a date with 1 girl, It should be talking to as many girls as you possibly can. Imagine this scenario you're texting other girls and setting up dates, some of them reply "sounds good can't wait!" to your invite would you really give a fuck about this 1 girl then?
/r/askTRP13/10/20 04:35 AM
2

Depends what your doing. You can never go wrong touching her arm when teasing her or making a point, just get the ball rolling. I'd look it up if you have further inquiries, far more experienced men have written more knowledgeable advice. If you have more questions make sure to look them up first
/r/askTRP13/10/20 04:28 AM
13

I pretty much never explicitly use the word date not for any specific reason. I have a good idea of what I want to do with them and am direct about it. Examples: Let's get drinks / let's get coffee / let's hangout and watch a movie Don't worry about her thinking of you as a friend the basic rules still apply. Assume attraction and escalate
/r/askTRP13/10/20 04:20 AM
1

Rollo tomassi, he repeats himself a lot but it's always good info. I recommend the rule zero videos he collaborates on as well
/r/askTRP13/10/20 12:26 AM
2

I've gotten dates from "heyy" and "hey ;)" take it for what it's worth
/r/askTRP11/10/20 11:18 PM
1

I live in 120k population, but my college is 30k so take that for what's it's worth. I keep shooting my shot. I send 2-3 messages then ask for a number, if I get the number or snap they might start asking me questions. Either way I always immediately send them an invite to a date. Best way to not waste time is to not care and not waste time yourself Girls will waste your time if you let them. For example if I send an invite and they are avoiding giving a yes or no, hard next.
/r/askTRP11/10/20 11:08 PM
1

I haven't I got 2 dates this week from tinder. If I were you I'd would invest in better pictures. "Text game" and "tinder algorithm" are nothing compared to solid tasteful pictures on your profile
/r/askTRP11/10/20 10:43 PM
1

Haha, how many approaches are you doing? Go approach more, and then some more, then add some tinder, then approach more
/r/askTRP11/10/20 10:32 PM
7

I like the effort of analysis but you're overcomplicating things First, you need better photos or lower your standards, online dating is a numbers game Second, if she wants to go on a date she will agree to date. Asking an hour earlier or later will not change her mind, there's an extremely small chance it does I exchange 4-5ish messages and ask for a number, once I get the number I immediately set up a date. Instead of worrying about this kinda thing order a phone tripod on Amazon and take more…
/r/askTRP11/10/20 06:06 PM
1

I find this curious, how are you meeting these girls? And what dates are you doing? I usually invite them over for the second date or drink then invite them over 2nd date. I read somewhere that the quicker you push for sex the more likely you'll get it on the first but I'm not experienced yet with that
/r/askTRP11/10/20 05:18 PM
1

This, the london day game model and direct approach is the clear choice in my opinion
/r/askTRP11/10/20 05:05 PM
14

Why not A lot of dudes here are all "Hard next if she doesn't put out in the first date" I don't know about you but if I have the time and the patience I'll happily set up another date. If she doesn't put out on the third, I personally would lose my patience and pursue other leads. There is no right or wrong answer, it's all about what you want to do
/r/askTRP11/10/20 04:57 PM
1

Careful of sunscreen I recently learned it can be estrogenic, by a zinc based sunscreen. Look up anthony jay for more info
/r/askTRP11/10/20 04:37 PM
3

If your going to start cold approaching START COLD APPROACHING get them numbers up son 1 a day minimum
/r/askTRP11/10/20 04:35 PM
5

I'm 2 months into a new town. I joined a BJJ gym the first day. I may not be close friends with any of the guys there, but we are bonded by a common goal. I'm invested into an activity with people invested into an activity and a common goal. Same reason why soldiers have the strongest bond. It's the common goal.
/r/askTRP10/10/20 03:14 AM
2

You like the challenge? Then why are you not increasing your SMV on all fronts to be banging chicks like those weekly This is like advanced blackpill Do the work
/r/askTRP10/10/20 03:10 AM
1

This a super old technique, it goes along the lines of social proof and being/socially engaging. I've done the best when I was alone by befriending the fellow men at the bars/clubs then getting chicks. Have you've ever gone out alone? This makes perfect sense
/r/askTRP09/10/20 01:27 PM
1

Depends on your area, mine is 100$ a month for unlimited classes
/r/askTRP09/10/20 12:10 AM
2

I think I depends how you view your career. It seems like the grind of your career isn't bringing you satisfaction. I suggest finding a passion. To do this is like throwing wet paper towels at the wall until something sticks. I know a lot of guys here recommend martial arts and I'm no exception. I tried journalism, working on cars, and continuing my high school sport but the feelings of passion would always eventually fade. First day I stepped into a BJJ gym I was hooked. I recommend making a li…
/r/askTRP08/10/20 11:50 PM
2

I agree, it's not a shit test it's a conversation opener
/r/askTRP08/10/20 06:30 PM
0

Sounds like a buffer for failure I haven't been to a competition yet but I fully intend to when I get the chance I'd rather get rejected brutally by 100 girls than lose in a competition But my confidence wouldn't be the same if I didn't have the balls to put my skills on the line Nothing makes me train harder and do that extra roll like imagining losing in a competition Train harder and do it, I know I will
/r/askTRP08/10/20 01:44 AM
2

If you were very masculine and dominant you wouldn't have to ask. I see many adult men that look like bitches. Young man, old man, middle aged man, the only constant is Man. Looking a little older won't make you the man you want to be, so get at it.
/r/askTRP07/10/20 11:44 PM
2

I think you have a good attitude about it. Cold approach is hard. If I were you I would keep at it and try to improve your cold approaches. Have you tried london day game model? Definitely only open girls that are alone I've heard you need 1000 approaches before you get a good ratio, or advance to the next stage of game I'm not getting many dates either, but approaching is fun and builds social skills for future possible dates Keep chugging through beginners hell "If you are going through hell, …
/r/askTRP07/10/20 12:49 PM
2

Bowling, eat somewhere, you probably already have a better idea based on your situation than anyone here
/r/askTRP07/10/20 12:27 AM
4

Why don't you just ghost her?
/r/askTRP06/10/20 06:16 PM
1

I'm in college, chicks don't care. They love the attention because no one approaches anymore.
/r/askTRP06/10/20 03:57 PM
2

Did you mostly approach at night(bars and clubs)?
/r/askTRP04/10/20 03:27 AM
1

Is it in your head or do you have trouble alone? Either way can't hurt to have pills on hand
/r/askTRP04/10/20 03:23 AM
2

I made a lot of improvement by reading books on social skills and applying them at work Biggest tip is that 95% of the reason someone doesn't initiate conversation with you is cause they don't have balls Grow balls and initiate
/r/askTRP03/10/20 01:56 AM
2

I can't vouch for it since I'm still in beginning stages. But cold approach and bjj
/r/askTRP28/09/20 07:18 PM
1

Personally, I never have really talked to girls in my life sober and not piss drunk. I'm just trying to build a thick skin and get used to talking to hot girls. I'm still trying to tweak my game, but my first priority is to just up the number of approaches. A victory is merely approaching currently, and anything else after the approach is bonus points.
/r/askTRP28/09/20 07:17 PM
1

So far direct has worked better in terms of reactions and I got a date off of direct. I started off approaching indirect and most girls seemed confused. One girl told me she thought I was a recruiter or salesperson until I asked for her number. I have only done about 30 approach and gotten 1 date so take my words with a grain of salt.
/r/askTRP28/09/20 07:04 PM
6

Personally, I decide when I'm going to approach before she even notices me. I don't care about ioi's
/r/askTRP28/09/20 06:49 PM
1

In my experience so far, a girl has a more adverse reaction when you approach her in front of other people. I think it causes them to switch to asd so they are more willing to blow you off. I started off approaching girls sitting down, but krauser called this an ambush. So now I only stop girls walking, it helps me filter girls that actually want to talk and forces me to put more effort into approaches. They could leave at any moment so it's the most socially acceptable imo. If I were you I woul…
/r/askTRP28/09/20 06:41 PM
1

Why would he not go for it. What does he have to lose? He can go to the gym after class whether he talks to her or not :/
/r/askTRP26/09/20 01:39 PM
2

How do you usually meet women?
/r/askTRP24/09/20 11:07 PM
1

I don't anymore, but I was obsessed with blowjobs back when I was watching it
/r/askTRP17/09/20 10:37 PM
2

Where are you now? Have you improved?
/r/askTRP16/09/20 03:59 AM
14

That's awesome, sounds like your making good progress. Don't stop
/r/askTRP15/09/20 12:36 PM
1

I appreciate your advice. But I'm not looking for anything exclusive anytime soon.
/r/askTRP14/09/20 12:54 PM
1

How did you get so many dates?
/r/askTRP13/09/20 10:28 PM
1

Watch her actions not her words
/r/askTRP13/09/20 09:50 PM
1

Then I'll find new hoes
/r/askTRP13/09/20 12:47 PM
0

Nah, I cold approached them both. I've seen the dudes on this campus. I'm definitely the main event for both of them tomorrow
/r/askTRP13/09/20 01:26 AM
-1

Wait why, this is exactly what I'm doing
/r/askTRP13/09/20 01:05 AM
2

I'm not sure if it is red pill in the sense that it is a compliment to the red pill theory. But I do think it has it's merits and utility for a red pill man. I find most of its applications to be in places of hierarchies, which today mostly translates to the workplace. Definitely something to always keep on the shelf and reference every once in a while.
/r/askTRP12/09/20 03:20 AM
1

You're confused. These "other men" are betas with no options. Women love that they can control them. With our mating strategy of being "alpha" you're essentially telling women that they cannot control you and you will not commit to them. Obviously it's way harder to be alpha, that's why women will be so quick to reject men that do none of these and try to date as an alpha. Conversely, do none of these, be beta and you might come across a women who "loves" you. You wanna fuck and date like an alp…
/r/askTRP12/09/20 03:00 AM
1

Same thing happened to me. You're just giving validation. It also means you don't vet girls which is lower value
/r/askTRP11/09/20 10:26 PM
3

I find this logic confusing. A flat no would be silence. Somewhat interested would be a some kind of response, such as this. Would you disagree?
/r/askTRP10/09/20 11:36 PM
3

My usual plan for cold approach texting is to have 1 or 2 back and forth, then I send an invite to a date. I guess she talks to too many betas. I plan on texting something like, "sounds rough, good luck" tonight hours after her text and seeing how it goes
/r/askTRP10/09/20 10:29 PM
2

Yeah I think you're right. If I was higher value in her book she wouldn't bother telling me that other stuff. Girls make rules for betas
/r/askTRP10/09/20 10:17 PM
2

I'm looking for answers and advice not opinions
/r/askTRP07/09/20 01:07 AM
1

Oh I agree, I'm doing approaches everyday so it's no big deal. She responded pretty well to it. Thanks for pointing out that it was a shit test. I'm pretty bad as recognizing them unless completely obvious. I'll also get this shit test more in the future so good to learn now.
/r/askTRP05/09/20 02:17 AM
8

Girls have no idea what their looking for or what they want.
/r/askTRP05/09/20 02:08 AM
2

I'm pretty embarrassed now cause it was super beta. "I don't talk to every girl I see. I thought you cute and interesting, our conversation proved that. I want to see you again"
/r/askTRP05/09/20 01:36 AM
1

Shit, I fucked that up
/r/askTRP05/09/20 01:29 AM
1

Be your own comedian. I try to find humor in everything, it brightens my day and helps me laugh with people. The best place to find humor is where you least expect it. It may not be your style but seinfeld is the king of laughing at boring.
/r/askTRP03/09/20 08:57 PM
4

Introduce yourself! Ask people questions
/r/askTRP29/08/20 04:02 AM
55

Are you serious? Come on last chance before I find someone else
/r/askTRP29/08/20 01:50 AM
53

Hey, I can't get a date either cause I'm scared to approach. Would you be interested in holding each other accountable and possibly have a friendly competition to see who can get a date first? Also 22
/r/askTRP29/08/20 01:45 AM
2

Take my advice with a grain of salt but, It seems you're already pretty satisfied with your life and on the surface you are content with the your current path. I think that this anger is coming from a place of some sort of emptiness. For example, when you first started lifting and didn't see grow as fast as you wanted you might've gotten pissed and do even more reps and workouts the next day. Or might have been upset about your current dating life and did 100 approaches the next week. Again take…
/r/askTRP29/08/20 01:15 AM
1

Maybe next semester. I do have one in person class that I am planning on introducing myself to the people in it
/r/askTRP28/08/20 10:00 PM
2

Regardless I appreciate you trying to help. I did strongly consider it.
/r/askTRP28/08/20 08:36 PM
2

I don't have time for pledging, besides rush week is already over, I'm old, and I've already been in a fraternity. If I didn't get quality friends and lots of pussy. It'd be an incredible waste of money and time I could've used better. Like working on hobbies and improving my social skills by trying to make friends from scratch.
/r/askTRP28/08/20 08:34 PM
1

I appreciate the advice but I can't afford one ($2500 a year), and don't have the time
/r/askTRP28/08/20 08:16 PM
1

That's solid advice. Unfortunately I live in a small studio but I'll try to work towards that for next year
/r/askTRP28/08/20 08:14 PM
2

Oh I did, I applied for a job at the rec center
/r/askTRP28/08/20 07:07 PM
1

So don't go to parties and go to bars/clubs?
/r/askTRP28/08/20 06:48 PM
1

I'd like to think I'm charismatic if I'm drinking. Do you think it would be acceptable to crash a party and befriend the host. I feel that although this is risky, the rewards are worth it. What is your opinion?
/r/askTRP28/08/20 06:31 PM
4

I like this answer, but how do I get into parties first. Go to parties make friends, make friends go to parties I'm looking for the initial make friends to get invited to parties aspect
/r/askTRP28/08/20 06:20 PM
3

What kind of places do you recommend to work? Also I would only take very few hours since I'm busy with school
/r/askTRP28/08/20 06:12 PM
2

It's just hard to stay positive when I don't know what success is
/r/askTRP28/08/20 08:36 AM
-4

The only two cold approaches I've done I said "how's it going?" I have a tough time believing Ill get a single date, this feels like some sick joke
/r/askTRP28/08/20 08:31 AM
1

Do you use the day bang model?
/r/askTRP28/08/20 04:33 AM
2

Obviously rational male I'm currently reading daybang The subtle art of not giving a fuck was a good read for me (also by Mark Manson). I haven't read models yet.
/r/askTRP27/08/20 11:04 PM
9

I highly recommend book of pook and it's free
/r/askTRP27/08/20 11:00 PM
7

Probably a week. I found the habit of inhaling from my fingers to be the toughest to break. When I felt the need for a puff, I'd smoke an invisible cig and that worked like a charm
/r/askTRP27/08/20 06:52 PM
31

Read Allen Carr Something he said that resonates with me was along the lines of: Addiction is like wearing a very tight pair of shoes only to feel relief when taking them off. Why not just ditch the tight shoes and walk freely.
/r/askTRP27/08/20 05:41 PM
2

I found a more alarming study. It said a 30% of males between 18-24 have been sexually inactive for the last year.
/r/askTRP27/08/20 12:38 AM
1

I'm asking more so on the 18-30 age range not being as sexual
/r/askTRP26/08/20 10:36 PM
0

Is there somewhere you've read this or is it anecdotal. I've noticed that out of the many men I've gotten to know, none of them have multiple plates.
/r/askTRP26/08/20 10:24 PM
3

Working on myself. I'd rather come out of quarantine a more ripe man than to be scrambling to find girls and half assing my improvement. I think a lot of people here are forgetting the virtue of patience
/r/askTRP25/08/20 01:06 PM
1

How would someone get into a party like this?
/r/askTRP24/08/20 11:11 PM
4

Yes, just be patient like the rest of us. You should be working out a lot and eating on point with that extra time. Bettering your appearence is the best thing we can do right now, it will improve your confidence/game.
/r/askTRP01/05/20 08:40 PM
1

Same position as you, I started transforming last year. My honest to God advice: get your OWN place. No roomates, just you, get a kitchen and force yourself to use it. Good luck
/r/askTRP27/04/20 08:16 PM
3

Which ever you stick to the best. If you're asking this and don't have your diet figured out then your stalling. The most basic things to follow are calories and workouts, after that protein. This is not a question you ask other people, this is something you experiment yourself. You should be lifting and following a diet plan long enough to be able to experiment with any diet/exercise/pseudoscience there is. This is a marathon not a sprint.
/r/askTRP26/04/20 05:42 PM
1

I completely agree with the fact that everyone's abusing something. I'm really scratching my head on this. Not even religious people have standards now days. Is this the curse of self improvement?
/r/askTRP26/04/20 05:35 PM
2

I've done it once, not worth it at all. Unless your swimming in the Olympics or entering in a bodybuilding contest I wouldn't think about it. I have thick hair so shaving doesn't remove much more than a trim. I'd have to get waxed to remove my leg hair completely, but that would last a week before the hair grows back.
/r/askTRP22/04/20 05:49 PM
4

I trim everywhere. I like seeing my muscles striations more clearly and feeling clean.
/r/askTRP22/04/20 05:08 PM
9

Time
/r/askTRP17/04/20 08:54 PM
1

Reading
/r/askTRP14/04/20 05:29 AM
87

Why not ask him to be more specific?
/r/askTRP14/04/20 05:27 AM
5

I'm no expert, but I feel like the point of shit tests are to cross the line
/r/askTRP14/04/20 04:59 AM
4

What do YOU want to do? There’s your answer.
/r/askTRP20/03/20 10:23 PM
1

In my case I haven’t cut them off because every man needs some bros. I’d recommend distancing yourself. It’s what I’ve done and has worked extremely well. Just know when to reconnect and have fun. Keep your thoughts and motivations private. I’m more introverted so it’s easy for me to close the doors and work on myself. I’d say first priority is to get your own place if you’re young. Keep only your own thoughts and force out theirs. Also remember the first rule of fight club
/r/askTRP20/03/20 10:20 PM
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I notice the people who call me buddy are usually people trying to hoist up their own egos. It doesn’t bother me because I recognize this egocentric behavior in people pretty easily and shrug it off. I never call people buddy, and I’ve noticed respectable, well developed men, refer to me and others as “sir” or as an equal. I’m glad when someone tries to pull something like this. Because they willingly tell everyone how insecure and little they feel on the inside. They’re basically admitting “You…
/r/askTRP12/03/20 02:57 PM
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Have you heard the phase: Always DARE never DEER
/r/askTRP08/03/20 09:24 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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