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/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 05:34 AM
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My first GF when I was 13 broke up with me and had a new BF the same day. Years later I got into a FWB relationship with a girl who had a boyfriend she had lived with for years. She "forgot to take her pill" and got pregnant and I was the nice guy who did the right thing and stuck around. Then I saw the Red Pill doc on netflix and through that found TRP and found a language that described accurately in detail everything I had experienced with women. Branch swinging, cheating, AF/BB, hypergamy, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 08:12 AM
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So you assume if a woman is using a dating app that she's a slut? No but some guys do. I think it's best to assume all women are sluts because then it doesn't hurt so bad when you find out something that you wish you didn't know lol. Personally, as a woman I have only used dating apps to find a long term partner, but I don't know if most women use them for hookups or not since I only seen men's profiles. If that's true, it would make me not want to use online dating because then men will think I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:07 AM
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Oh no lol. Do men generally think that when a woman is on OLD it's because she's interested in "fucking random basic dudes"? Some men do. Oh well, what can you do? It's partly how you present yourself on there and what you're like in real life. I've used it in the past to find a LTR but never hooked up. I hope guys didn't think I was using dating apps as hookup apps; that makes me not want to try them again because there's no point if every guy is assuming the wrong thing. Definitely lots of guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:05 AM
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The pandemic brought some people to apps for the first time though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:12 PM
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Pandemic though. Also for some women it can be a sign of pickiness. I'm dating a woman who has a very specific niche type. Every guy she's dated has ticked certain specific boxes and she wouldn't have found me without OLD, so I'm pretty confident that she wasn't just using it to fuck random basic dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:11 PM
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AWALT. You can meet her in person but that doesn't mean that she's never used a dating app. You can meet a woman who has never used a dating app but that doesn't mean that she's not still a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:08 PM
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I think that's a big myth. What do you think they ask for your marriage license at the hospital or something? Do you think they look you up in some kind of database? I had a child with someone I wasn't married to and nobody at the hospital ever cared or asked. It's not like they wouldn't let me in because we weren't married.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 12:16 AM
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Taxes are 3.7% lower. Big deal https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/what-are-marriage-penalties-and-bonuses#:~:text=Couples%20filing%20jointly%20receive%20a,of%20their%20adjusted%20gross%20income. Immigration isn't an issue if you're both citizens already. You can have children without getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 10:35 PM
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About a third of the time hanging out drinking with a friend and one thing leads to another. This has led to one night stands, an on and off FWB thing that lasted a little while, and one LTR that led to marriage, kids, and divorce. Another third of the time, striking up a conversation with a stranger or friend of a friend at a bar or party, swapping socials, later going out for drinks one on one and going home to have sex. This has led to some ONS and brief flings and one relationship that laste…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 11:20 PM
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It's far worse from the other side which is basically what TRP is a reaction too. Women think it's horrible and misogynistic for TRP to call women "the oldest teenager in the house" but they'll use terms like "man child" or "peter pan syndrome". They'll cry "no slut shaming" while calling guys fuck boys. It's been completely mainstream for ages to say things like "men only want one thing" and make other generalizations about mens behavior but somehow AWALT is extremely offensive to them. And yet…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 06:50 PM
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Shows a total lack of abundance and desperation. These are just some random people you happen to have to see every day. I've done it, it was fine, didn't end badly but I've met far better matches elsewhere. Working with someone doesn't mean you have anything in common with them. You want to have easy conversations... about work? That's not a very interesting connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:02 AM
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Looks. You really think that most average looking guys making 40k have a fulfilling sex life? Or they settle down with the first woman who will give them any attention and accept a life of misery like most AFCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:39 AM
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All other things being equal the guy with status is going to do better than the guy with none. Men can only improve their looks so much. Beyond that, acquiring status is the best way to maximize their smv. Yes some women will just pick the boring, vapid, hot guy who has never accomplished anything. That's irrelevant to men though since we can only be as hot as our genetics allow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:35 AM
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A guy who is a 5 in looks and a 1 in status is probably settling down with a woman who is a 3 or 4. A guy who is a 5 in looks and a 10 in status... sky's the limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:15 PM
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Yes, people who haven't experienced it first hand or personally witnessed it second hand don't seem to understand at all. Normal guys seem to think that a boring career is "status" and women who have never been with guys with any status think it's about "gold digging". It's not about mega celebrity or wealth. It's about this kind of thing lol https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/web1\_Elsa-and-Will-Oldham-by-Christian-Hansen-mrez.jpeg
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:12 PM
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Attraction to a man's status doesn't necessarily have to be immature in the way you're thinking. Let's say that your passion is food, cooking, and fine dining. You meet two men and you're equally attracted to both physically. One is an accountant and the other is a locally famous chef who owns a couple of restaurants, wins awards in all of the local papers, etc. He takes you to all of his favorite spots where he knows all of the chefs and they bring you out special dishes. He takes you the farme…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:43 PM
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I believe that groupies are genuinely sexually attracted to men with status. Women will have sex with a guy like that one time behind closed doors without ever getting to be seen on his arm in public. What are they getting from him? She gets a genuine excitement and thrill from getting to spend time with someone she admires or maybe even idolizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:16 PM
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Maybe to certain women. Some women might get tingles from the renowned intellectual professor who only makes $50k a year because he's brilliant and charismatic. Other women might get tingles for a powerful titan of industry even if he loses everything and is broke. But obviously the musician's lifestyle is more fun and glamorous than a CEO's lifestyle and Bezos is more likely to attract gold diggers. As a thought experiment, lets say you have two identical twins. One becomes the most successful …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:12 PM
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No status and money are independent. The broke dj who knows all the right people and gets invited to all the right places has status within a certain community and can date out of his looks league because of that. The bitcoin millionaire neckbeard sitting behind a computer with no friends is rich but has no status. A genius college professor can have groupies who are genuinely attracted to him even if he just makes an average middle class income. The billionaire tech mogul who works 80 hours a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:01 PM
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How is $2000 over 14 months comparable money? Are you only having sex with her once a month!?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:12 PM
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Most women don't have high enough smv to ever meet a high status man. If they did you can bet they would be attracted to the status.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:11 PM
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Or you just don't know any people whose reputations expand well beyond their immediate social circle. IOW you don't know anyone with any status.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:08 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:07 PM
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Yep, you nailed it. So many people here misunderstand status and think it's synonymous with wealth or having some boring high paying career.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:06 PM
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Bunch of celebrity news/social media addicts here who confuse social status for fame (although that certain helps). Fame is status. Status within a smaller group or community is sort of like a micro fame. I would even say money is not that important, except as to it relates to your status. Yep, I've said it before but it's really about lifestyle. Some nerdy guys get confused and think a guy like Bill Gates has status, but his lifestyle looks boring. You have to have status in an area that women …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:04 PM
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Looks are great but you can only improve them so much. Status is the only way for a man to consistently bat out of his league. The guy I know who most frequently dates a string of attractive women way out of his looks league is an accomplished artist who knows everyone within a particular hip scene and lives an exciting, interesting lifestyle despite being a broke slob.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:00 PM
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$2000 over 14 months? So you should have fucked her at least 420 times. That's like $4.75 per fuck. What exactly are you complaining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:31 AM
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So basically criminalizing the behavior of attractive sexually successful men in their 20s? Because you know 20 year old women won't magically stop fucking hot 25 year old men, nor will they be the ones prosecuted for it. It will never happen. The military industrial complex needs that constant stream of dumb 18 year old recruits. How about we encourage maturity instead of promoting extended adolescence?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:48 PM
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I think you're right but just as a devil's advocate to try to change your view, maybe the cause and effect is backwards. Maybe it's not that women are attracted to misogynistic men but that men who are successful with women become misogynistic because they quickly learn the true nature of women and become jaded. Men who are highly successful with women are more likely to have slept with women who are in relationships and to have seen all sorts of cheating and branch swinging and depraved sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:04 AM
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Yeah most never get diagnosed so there's no real trustable statistics about it. Plus they're single and back on the dating market more frequently so they're quite a large chunk of who you'll run into when dating especially above a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:28 PM
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Mostly sluts who want to slut around and label it as some kind of woke identity so they can feel like they're part of the special lgbtq community. Some narcissists who want to fuck around on their partner openly as some kind of power play. Probably some sociopaths who experience no jealousy because they genuinely have no feelings for anyone but themselves and they want to use multiple people for various needs. Then a tiny minority of guys who know how to make it work in their favor and can do on…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:53 AM
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A third of married mothers in the US are stay at home moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:41 AM
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When a bisexual woman evaluates a woman's attractiveness those factors aren't at play so the standards aren't as high. In my experience some women who identify as bisexual are only attracted to very hot women. So they end up dating men who are on their level but they can get off from watching women in porn or whatever. They're not into masculine lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 09:28 PM
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equally ranked women typically bring a lot more to the table in the modern world. This doesn't make logical sense. If one person is bringing more to the table then they're not equal. - Due to male selection pressures, women have evolved to be more objectively attractive than men. Ugh not this again. Total nonsense. I'm attracted to women so yes they're more attractive to me but there are equal numbers of attractive men and women. If there weren't there would be shortages of male models and actor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:57 PM

Easy, they know they can do better. If your friend is a 6 these guys are probably 8s and are holding out for a 7 or 8. Realistically though your friends are probably 5s and you're being overly generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:34 PM
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All of those things are costs that are equally shared when custody is split 50/50. Why then does the higher earning parent (almost always the father) have to still pay the mother a monthly allowance?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:24 AM
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You still have to pay child support even with 50/50 custody, which women here constantly and conveniently ignore and leave out of the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:23 AM
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Looks, status, and game are the only things that drive actual sexual attraction in women. You can file things like personality, intelligence, wit, and humor under game. Money is for you so that you can have your life in order, not be a bum, dress well, have a nice place to live and all of that. But TRP does not advise leading with money. A lot of guys on TRP talk about hiding or downplaying their wealth. If you, as a man, lead with your money, status or looks, you'll end up finding shallow women…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:57 AM
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That's because the man isn't that into her and is just settling because it's comfortable. So he has the upper hand in the power dynamics of the relationship. Or he's a red pilled guy who is slowly vetting her while spinning plates before he upgrades her from plate to fwb to gf. Either way he has the power so she's not going to lose attraction and things will be relatively stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:49 PM
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I know this isn't an advice forum and I don't know if this is an actual personal advice question or some weird hypothetical. But a virgin at 25, you just need to get it over with. The first time will probably be weird and awkward and not great. You don't need "relationship experience" and you don't need to seriously date this person. If she has showed interest and is attracted to you and wants to have sex with you you're not somehow exploiting her by giving her what she wants. Male sexual attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 06:01 AM
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I’ve never seen a woman use a man for his money. LOL what? You've never met a SAHM? A third of married mothers in the US don't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 05:27 AM
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Um, like getting my libido "repaired" so I can be a thirsty slave like you? No thanks bud. TRP is about sexual strategy. If you're opting out that's MGOTW not TRP You're confusing Red Pill with PUA. There's a big overlap in the sidebar Better get dancing young monkey! You have pussy to impress! That's not TRP. Don't have to be a dancing monkey to get laid. You sound blackpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:33 AM
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lost virginity at 19. same (About 40+ partners before getting married). I would call about 8 - 10 of those 40+ women "girlfriends". way more than me Divorced early forties same Just turned 50. Been celibate/single since my divorce, 100% MGTOW 100% Red Pill. Bro. A decade of celibacy post divorce is not red pill. Since my divorce I've been with more women, younger women, and hotter women than before I found TRP. You're doing something wrong. MGTOW is one thing but it's definitely not red pill whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:56 AM
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"HVM" do what I suggested all men do, which is ruthlessly guard their attention and time. HVM don't have to ruthlessly guard their attention and time. The point is that a 10 guy can just message a 7 girl to come over and fuck and he doesn't have to invest any other time and energy in her. So the 7 guy is in a shitty situation because the women in his league have had their standards skewed. All he can do is do the same thing with 4s and 5s and further perpetuate the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:35 AM
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My ex wife was horny af during pregnancy and after childbirth for both kids because her hormones were going crazy. Both were c-section though. Women here are the biggest perpetrators of AWALT. Most women simply cannot understand that all women aren't the same. I find this especially true in sexual discussions. Women think that how her body works is how all women's bodies work. They have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:04 AM
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Of course. But as I mentioned in the OP a guy who is clearly higher status than you doesn't have to be an asshole and lord it over you. He can be a cool generous guy who can relate to anybody and treat them like a human being. But women see the asshole behavior and mistake it for status.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 03:34 AM
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Apparently not the social cues that will vet against dating a guy who is an abusive asshole or those guys would be sexless losers and not have hot women throwing themselves at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 03:30 AM
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It's very possible that a man who is loud and blowhardish has things to back it up while the guy on the receiving end is losing, but they don't know. Nobody really does. We just make those virtuous assumptions that the quiet, calm guy has his shit together and the loud, aggressive guy is the insecure one with nothing to back it up. No it comes from observation. Another way to put it is that guys with alpha qualities who are truly good kind people who will be civil to a guy at the bottom of the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:26 AM
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There is just a misunderstanding in some areas. In general asshole guys act nice to women when first meeting them (think chads) so women don't find out till later and think men who shit talk those assholes are jealous. I don't believe that at all. I've read way too many me too stories that make you wonder why she didn't immediately run. I've heard way too many stories about abusive exes where you realize there were obvious red flags from day one yet she stuck around for years. Edit: to be fair m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:32 PM
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I believe that it's nearly always the same guy. Men can spot these guys sooner because we can see them coming a mile away from their personality while women don't realize he's an asshole until he does a string of abusive things to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:28 PM
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I think women can be easily impressed by outward appearances and guys who talk a good talk, even if other men know the guy is a phony. Who do you think would do better with women, the guy on a team who has the admiration and respect of all of the other players and quietly and humbly excels at what he does, or the obnoxious asshole who talks himself up, shit talks other people, and acts like he's god's gift to the world even though all of his teammates hate him?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:26 PM
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Nah the asshole debate boils down to women not being able to actually tell who is better than who and are about as persuadable as a crowd of voters during a presidential candidacy faceoff. That's my point. Men are better at telling when another guy is a phony narcissist who is all talk. The behavior pretty much immediately reads to us as him being an asshole. Some men will put up with those guys if they're genuinely higher status and we can get something out of the association but we still can r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:13 PM
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It's the other way around. Women confuse the behavior of abusive narcissistic assholes as being attractively confident, outgoing, and assertive. A guy can have a true inner confidence and be humble and reserved, while a narcissist might be filled with insecurities and lash out and manipulate people because of them. The latter is still going to do better with women. I see it all the time in real life. This is why I can’t relate with men on here when they say things like “women always go for the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 07:35 PM
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bars haven't been a thing since genX Lol what? You say the weirdest things sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 07:01 PM
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It's not the "best dating strategy" it's just a basic first step of getting your shit together and being healthy and attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:50 AM
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Yes, that's literally what it means. Where you stand in the social hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:49 AM
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Ordinary people have no status, that's the point. Think of a closed environment like a high school. Who has status? Maybe a few athletes, one or two attractive arty guys, and maybe one popular class clown type that everyone likes. That's it. The top 1 or 2%. That's what status is. The top of a social hierarchy. It's contextual. Maybe in some places it's the charismatic preacher who runs the megachurch or whatever but the same principle applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:58 PM
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Social status. Being recognized for success within a field that women find sexy like the arts or sports. Being the top dog of a social circle. Having lots of friends and living an interesting exciting life. Being famous and having fans and admirers. Being the center of attention. This is why a broke dude in a cool band will be fucking way hotter women than some rich insurance salesman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:55 PM
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For example, if in a room with some local college athlete and Bill Gates, how many women would genuinely rather fuck Bill than the other guy? You need to have status in a field that women care about like the arts or something that is masculine like sports. "Status" as a computer nerd doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:06 PM
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Money is not status.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:05 PM
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Let's leave celebrities aside That's literally the definition of status. Not money but notoriety. Popularity within some social context. Being at the top of some hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:05 PM
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Nope, ugly broke musicians with some status in a local scene can easily fuck women out of their league. I see it all the time. Status is everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:03 PM
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Having a wider range doesn’t mean you have more options. That's literally what you claim in your op. If the men aren’t choosing you they aren’t choosing you. True, taste doesn't necessarily lead to options. Just because men have a wider range of tastes doesn't mean they have more options if none of those options find them attractive. There’s nothing you can do about that. You could improve yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 09:02 PM
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Like, there are plenty of women who like the rugged mountain man look, So you have to be tall and strong and able to grow a thick full beard there are women that like the gymrat look, So you have to be jacked the femme pretty boy look, So model tier good looks the dilf look The attractiveness is already built into the "I'd like to fuck" part. The thing is that while this is a wide range, most men fail to meet the attractiveness threshold for any of these groups. What you're saying actually descr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 08:54 PM
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women have a wider range of what we find attractive. If that were true then women would clearly have more options. You contradict yourself. Men having access to younger women and women their age makes their dating pool even bigger. At certain times of life that might be true. However young men go through a couple of stages where they're the youngest, least desirable options in their environment. A freshman girl in college can date any of the guys in college plus older men. A guy who is a college…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 08:18 PM
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So hypergamy also confirmed. Your husband makes way more money than you so he's not even concerned about your little side hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 06:58 AM
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TRP refers to this as "what's mine is mine what's yours is ours". Thanks for giving a stark confirmation of that dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 04:04 AM
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My money is to invest for myself and for the kids future, his money is to pay the bills. woooow
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:43 AM
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Also I've noticed that most women that are interested in me are not that attractive. For example I went to a night club last weekend with a few friends, two overweight women where starring at me and one even started flashing her legs and dancing seductively to get my attention. Women who aggressively flirt and pursue you are always going to be lower smv than you. I guarantee there was another more attractive woman at the club who would have been interested in you if you made a move.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 11:13 PM
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Yes it's this. I don't know why this is so far down. 1/3 of married mothers in the US are stay at home moms and the trend is increasing with millennials. So many women get a degree, work some office job they hate for maybe 10 years until they have kids and they quit. Maybe they have some low earning side gig or start some money losing passion business on the side that their higher earning husband funds.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 07:22 PM
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The smp
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 08:04 AM
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If a guy is at least within the average range with regards to genetic physicality, then he has the raw physical goods to attract hookups and relationships. Sure, with a woman who is well beneath him in both SMV and RMV. If he is unable to attract either, within reason, then it is likely because he has an “unattractive personality” and/or some level of “maladaptive socialization.” Meaning he just needs to find TRP and learn some game. There are plenty of antisocial, depressed, neurodivergent (dar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:02 AM
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Nope. The genius starving artist has high status among a certain social group even without any money. Meanwhile the millionaire google engineer who is a poorly groomed autistic weirdo isn't getting laid. Status is different than money and it's something women are actually attracted to while money is just something they use you for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:37 AM
0

High five to your dad for flipping the script because usually it's the other way around. If you can have sympathy for you mother's situation then surely you can have sympathy for men who are in the exact same situation, can't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 06:14 AM

Seems like a troll but if not you should ask r/sex I also don’t know what things to do without acting like I’m some sort of porn star. What's wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 06:07 AM
-5

marrying and having kids with the wrong person can destroy the rest of your life. For men, sure. But as a woman, lol no. Give me a break. You have the sole power to decide if you keep the kid or not. And if it doesn't work out you get monthly checks from him and a free babysitter half the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 09:40 AM
1

A woman can judge her SMV/RMV by the quality and quantity of the men who are "orbiting" her unprovoked. And the "acts of service" "gifts" "time" "effort" "resources" they go out of their way to bestow upon her without her having to even reciprocate. No that's ridiculous. These men are generally beneath her. She's usually sleeping with or dating someone better than the orbiters or else they wouldn't just be orbiters. A man can judge his SMV/RMV by the quality and quantity of women who, unprovoked…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 08:07 AM
1

Any man can get any woman who is below him in smv. The question is if he can get his equal or if his game is strong enough to get his superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:29 AM
2

Well I don't really know but that kind of lines up with what I'm saying. Slightly above average girls get spoiled because guys with a higher smv than them will fuck them and that raises their perception of their own smv. 10s aren't really easy though, that's kind of a crazy claim. They can have their pick of any man they want. I get the TRP idea that those girls don't get approached as often because they're intimidating but come on they know their value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:27 AM
15

There's a threshold of attractiveness that makes people fuckable even if they're not a perfectly gorgeous 10. A cute 6 with a nice body who is fun is going to be deemed fuckable by pretty much any guy. A guy who is a 9 or 10 can easily sleep with those women and have fun and be treated like a king by them. Why jump through hoops to please the spoiled 9 or 10 who knows she's hot shit when he can easily fuck perfectly attractive women who are much easier? But that doesn't mean that he wants to com…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:58 AM
1

What exactly did he do to treat you poorly?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 08:05 AM
2

It means dating up. Or marrying up. But there are a lot of ways that "up" can express itself, money, looks, social status, family background, intelligence, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:05 AM
1

Yeah I'm not sure I care about the opinions of some teenagers from the '50s from countries with arranged marriages. You know who else came to America to study and was shocked by our freedoms? Sayyid Quitb the father of jihadism and inspiration for al-quaeda.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:01 AM
2

The equivalent of a slut would be somebody who gets into harvard medical and then decides they don't like it so they'll switch to yale, and then you know what maybe medical school isn't right for me so they switch to law, but then that's not right either, so back to medical, then they switch specialties, then they decide it's time to have a kid and they'd really rather be a SAHM.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:56 AM
4

No it's because horny drunk guys will sometimes fuck women with way lower smv
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:51 AM
7

Well yeah. After casual sex with the top 20% guy who wouldn't commit, she feels like she's having to settle when the guy she's settling with is actually her real league.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:47 AM
5

80/20 is about casual sex, not relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:40 AM
5

Hypergamy isn't just about trading up, it's about women only being attracted to men who are better than them. Taller, richer, better looking, higher status, etc. He doesn't have to have all of those but he has to be superior to her in some way. The problem is she can usually have casual sex with a guy who is way above her which skews her standards. Even if she ends up with a guy who is slightly above her she feels like she's having to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:38 AM
2

Hypergamy doesn't exist; the men who aren't getting any are actually below average, but they believe they are "average men", making "average frustrated chump" appear to be a more common phenomenon than it is It's not just about not getting any, it's about the AFC having to date down, getting settled for, having to jump through hoops, and being treated like shit in a relationship. Hypergamy is real and 80/20 is law Hypergamy is real and the reality is even worse than 80/20 The 80/20 rule is about…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:12 AM
1

Except the reality is you can do the day to day work of raising your kids 50% of the time and still have to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:39 PM
2

50/50 custody is the standard. Almost every divorced person I know has 50/50 custody. I can't find any statistics but plenty of legal articles saying that it's the most common option. And yet men still have to pay child support. Meeting the basic standards of caring for your kids and keeping them clothed and fed is not expensive at all. It's easy and cheap to do the bare minimum and not get the kids taken away for neglect while spending your child support money on other things. Even if the money…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:39 PM
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Most people I know who are divorced have 50/50 custody of the kids and most of the time the man has to pay child support because he makes more money than his ex. It's not based at all on any realistic reasonable measure of actual expenses, it's just based on how much money each person makes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:33 PM
1

It's quite simple. If you can't afford to house and feed your children then you shouldn't get any custody of them. So food and housing should be taken out of the equation. Healthcare should be free for everyone. Public education is free. Private school is a luxury and if one parent demands it they can pay for it. Lessons and other activities are an optional luxury. Basically child support shouldn't exist at all but for the few special cases where it might be necessary then that specific expense …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:29 PM
3

Yes exactly. Plus all of the songs listed here were released after I already had a kid lol. A lot of people here are really young and don't realize how different the culture was growing up in the '80s.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:49 PM
7

I was in a LTR with a woman who was pretty far below me in smv. Then when I got out of that the next serious relationship I had was much younger and hotter. And when that ended now I'm with someone even more attractive. Which one was my looksmatch?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 04:26 AM
10

I didn't think to look for pics but yeah 6 tops. And with bpd yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 04:37 AM
14

The standards sound reasonable when written down in a list. It's the subjective interpretation of those standards where things get hypocritical. She has a good career so she wants a man with a good career. She makes $50k and her boyfriend makes $100k so they're equals because they both work as hard right? She wants a guy who is financially secure and independent. Yet he owns a house and has retirement savings and she has a ton of credit card debt and spends irresponsibly. If you're truly an 8 or…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 01:17 AM
1

Women can also be attracted to a man's looks and have casual sex with him. Ideally in a relationship both people find each other attractive right? If she doesn't like his looks but only his money, she's not sexually attracted to him. She's not "financially attracted" she's just using him. Men can use women for money too but that's not sexual attraction. This is basic AF/BB TRP 101 stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 04:42 AM
1

If you only want girls for their youth and beauty, why cant women only want you for your money? Liking someone for their beauty means you're actually sexually attracted to them, while using someone for money doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:34 PM
3

a lot of regular guys have periods of their lives where they are homeless LOL what? No. It's either total losers or rich kids with a safety net who want to play at being "homeless" but really they're never sleeping on the street and they have lots of options, they're just slumming it for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 04:08 AM
1

...but men aren't mad they're being deprived of a fun activity, they're mad they aren't getting a reward they feel entitled to. OP even used the word "reward" in his initial post. When you're in elementary school and you get a pizza party is that a reward or a fun activity? If your teacher just says, "hey random pizza party this Friday!" that's a fun activity. But if she says "Pizza party if you all behave for the next month" then that's a reward for your behavior. The woman is the one who is wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:14 AM
1

I'm so prone to attachment from sex but If the guy was just someone I met at a bar, however, and felt he was stupid or we didn't get each other's humour at all or whatever, but he was physically my type and I was looking for casual sex, well, I couldn't give a shit how it turned out, could I? This is the part that doesn't compute for men. You say you're prone to attachment from sex but you'll have casual sex with someone you don't even like who you think is stupid just because he's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 07:36 PM
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I understand why men are coming from, but I think it comes from seeing sex as a reward rather than a fun activity or a romantic act. No it's the other way around. Women who make men wait are treating sex like it's a reward to hand out after he's passed some prerequisites. If it's just a fun activity or a romantic act, why wouldn't you do it right away? Imagine a guy asking you to do a fun activity on the first date and you decline saying "oh no, I don't do anything FUN on a first date!" LOL. Got…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 07:23 PM
1

Why not just bang local hoes for free in my own locality without having to travel!?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:51 AM
1

Moderately attractive escorts in my area seem to be at least $300-500. Who is spending that much on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:43 AM
1

No I wouldn't get married again. Just saying that when guys say "hire escorts it's cheaper than dating" I have to call bullshit. Just as a rough estimate my ex and I maybe had sex 4000 times and I maybe lost 400k in the divorce so $100 per fuck is much cheaper than any escort in my area. I just got out of a 6 month relationship where she would withhold sex maybe every 3rd time we hung out. Toward the end at least, it was better in the beginning. I would buy alcohol and food and say I spent $100 …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:33 AM
1

She was only the second woman I had been with so the thought has crossed my mind that maybe I didn't know how good I had it and that I shouldn't have divorced her. But really the sex was the only good thing and everything else was pretty toxic. I just thought it was normal. Got into an argument a while back on here with a woman who was trying to claim that it wasn't normal for a woman's hormones to go crazy and want to have sex while pregnant. I had to link her to articles that showed that it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:20 AM
1

It worked for me. So maybe don't marry a woman who doesn't want to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:11 AM
1

Either she's ugly or she doesn't like sex or has some kind of sexual trauma or hangup. Even if she's some kind of tradcon virgin till marriage type she's not going to still be single at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:04 AM
1

Nah I did the math. If you marry a high libido woman and have sex every day for at least a decade you'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:03 AM
1

But lets be honest no girl will ever love him for him. He’s better off not getting fleeced as a beta bux He's under 30. He could try fixing himself instead of giving up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 07:32 AM
1

Dumb strategy and way more expensive than the people who advocate this let on. I mean I've never been with a prostitute but I've looked at the prices and for an even remotely attractive one and it's crazy. Dating and LTRs are not that expensive despite what some weirdos say. You may never find real true love but at least the temporary illusion of it and the real desire from a woman is way better than prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 06:59 AM
1

Kevin has passed on dating, parties, drinking, mass-socializing, throughout school/college to focus on himself. Why? You don't like to have fun? This is a problem. Girls just want to have fun. Perhaps in his spare time he plays golf, rides sports bikes and tinkers with cars, These are fairly interesting and decent hobbies. Kevin lives in the United States and has his mind set on "finding-the-one" who has also preserved their virginity. But why? Will Kevin find his way or is he drunk on the Kool-…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 06:19 AM
1

Attractiveness is unevenly distributed in both sexes. If we use the 1-10 scale, and proportioned what percentage of each sex falls into each number, the majority of men would be in the 3-5 range, whereas the majority of women would be in the 5-7 range. Men just are less attractive. Wow, you really believe this? It just doesn't make sense genetically. How would that happen? What do you think of those famous okcupid graphs? The men's graph is a perfect bell curve. The women's graph is not just sli…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 12:26 AM
1

There's a middle ground between science and propaganda. Just because it may not be a verifiable scientific phenomenon doesn't mean that it's not a real thing. When you're young and naive and believe in love and you feel like "this person is the one" and that you're soul mates and destined to be together you feel a very strong connection. The more you cycle through different relationships and get cynical and are constantly on the lookout for something newer and better, that youthful naivete start…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 03:04 AM
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Any more thoughts on this? This goes against everything TRP normally advises. But I tend to agree that if the only reason to avoid getting back with an ex is to spare your own feelings then that's kind of a pussy thing to do. If you're a man and can handle a little bit of pain again and you get some more good lays out of it, why not? How long were you no contact? And then what did your new friendship look like? Hanging out one on one? Group situations? Texting? Who reached out first? Also how lo…
/r/TheRedPill01/11/20 06:13 PM
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You're in a dangerous place man. I was once in your exact place. Had a couple of highschool girlfriends and a couple of hookups in college then a big dry spell in my early 20s where I got really lonely and depressed. So guess what happened? A moderately attractive woman finally wanted to have sex with me when I was 23 and I clung to her, was scared to be alone, got baby trapped, and ended up in a marriage with someone I didn't really want to be with. Stuck around for 20 years "for the kids" whil…
/r/askTRP08/10/20 06:30 PM
1

just because your life appears boring to the majority of women does not mean it is boring for you Well sure but TRP says that you're supposed to have interesting hobbies and a mission that you're passionate about. If you just play video games and are only interested in stemlord things then women aren't going to find that very attractive. Transforming your lifestyle to something far from what you want for more women is probably low ROI. I never said anything about changing yourself into something…
/r/askTRP11/08/20 01:16 AM
1

Controversial opinion time: if you have no legitimate reason to be on instagram then your life is probably boring. You don't own a business? Have a career? If you do and have no reason to promote yourself on instagram you probably work in a really boring field that women aren't interested in. Because instagram is all about the things that women love: image, lifestyle, travel, fashion, food, friends, status, materialism. There's nothing wrong with working at a boring cubicle job in a bank or what…
/r/askTRP10/08/20 08:27 PM
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Sidebar mostly concerns spinning plates or vetting women to be some tradcon housewife to raise your kids. I don't think there's much discussion of any middle ground. But you see guys on here who say they've had fwbs that lasted for many years and other types of in between situations. That's the area I'm trying to figure out. Lots of the LTR red flags really seem like marriage/parenthood red flags, not necessarily long term fuck buddy red flags.
/r/askTRP04/06/20 07:17 PM
1

How does this jive with "assume atraction"?
/r/askTRP31/10/19 07:27 PM
1

Who do you think comes up with these bullshit rules meant to keep you in line?
/r/askTRP31/10/19 02:21 AM
1

I don't know what country or religion you're talking about so I don't want to make any assumptions. But I would imagine that there are plenty of men like you describe in the middle east who are Muslim, and stay virgins until marriage, but then follow a religion that promises them 72 virgins in the afterlife. How do you reconcile that? Obviously there's a value placed on banging lots of virgins. Meanwhile the rich princes and sheiks or whatever in their country are definitely not saving themselve…
/r/askTRP30/10/19 11:58 PM
1

This is bad news, don't let it go too far. Say she "finds" you a place she wants you to apply and she builds it up in her mind that it's the perfect fit for you. Big deal, you could have found it yourself. She's not actually helping you get a job. But you apply anyway to please her. If it goes nowhere or you get an interview but not the job, now you look like kind of a loser who couldn't land the big job that she picked out and built up as the perfect thing for you. And if you do get it and take…
/r/askTRP10/10/19 04:03 PM
1

She was probably fucking with you and expected you to do something embarrassing in return. But ignoring it just drove her crazy and made you mysterious. I don't know, just a thought.
/r/askTRP03/10/19 10:49 PM
1

When I was younger the women who pursued me were okay so I accepted that they were on my level and settled. Now I realize that I probably could have done better.
/r/askTRP03/10/19 10:35 PM
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I wasn't really thinking of that kind of approach but something more aggressive. Looking back at my personal experiences I would say it's almost a perfect spectrum with the most aggressive being the least attractive and the more attractive women approaching more subtly. Does 200k IG followers mean she has high smv? I thought it was more of a red flag.
/r/askTRP03/10/19 10:34 PM
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I think high school is different. The girls who pursued me in HS were more attractive than the women who pursued me later and I don't think it's just because I got older and less attractive. I think their behavior is very different at that age. Girls at that age are in the narrow window of a woman's life when they haven't yet reached an abundance mentality. They don't really know how things work yet so they might go for what they want more freely. Plus their world is very small and pickings are …
/r/askTRP03/10/19 10:29 PM
1

It's interesting that women will deny how common baby trapping is but then you bring up vasectomies and they're like "ew gross no". Because apparently the main point of having a man around is for his sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 06:22 PM
1

Current/visible MLM's target economically insecure SAHM, and relies on their extensive FSM to spread. TL;DR-MLM's arent exclusive a female phenomena, it just seems that way because the current players are working through social media which is closely interwoven with the female social matrix. MLMs have always targeted women. Avon, Mary Kay, Tupperware, go back decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 07:00 PM
1

Relationships force you to become a better person. Doubtful. It's much easier to get comfortable, complacent, and let yourself go than to actually improve yourself in a LTR. Learning to compromise with other people is just a part of learning to get along with others that you should learn as a child. And you have plenty of time to practice it every day in the workplace or any other area where you have to interact with other people. You don't need a relationship for that. The problem is that a rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 09:42 PM
1

Yes, both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 03:45 AM
1

The changes I'm talking about have taken place mainly in the last 20 years or so with an increased push toward standardized testing, and the explosion in diagnosing boys with ADHD and medicating them to make them easier to handle in the classroom. When I look at those lists of accomplished people, first of all I see plenty of women, but more importantly most of the people are older and were educated long before these changes took place. I think you would also find an over representation of peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 03:45 AM
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They are largely designed by women for girls and many boys are getting left behind. How did I not make that clear? Did you read the article? Did you read my post? Judging by your reading comprehension I would say you might have been one of those boys who was failed by the school system. But it would be unfair not to put part of the blame on your father and his ignorant views about teachers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:33 PM
1

Gurian’s book presents statistics that boys get the majority of D’s and F’s in most schools, create 90 percent of the discipline problems, are four times more likely than girls to be diagnosed with ADHD and be medicated, account for three out of four children diagnosed learning disabilities, become 80 percent of the high school dropouts, and now make up less than 45 percent of the college population. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-boys-are-failing-in-a_b_884262 What's your explanation for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:01 PM
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After looking into it more, it looks like the main survey on this is done primarily face to face. You don't think people are going to lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 05:12 AM
1

Sympathy is just "sorry to hear that happened to you. that must have been awful" but true empathy is actually knowing viscerally how awful it felt for that person. Really putting yourself in someone else's shoes and feeling what they're feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 10:03 PM
1

I think the rates of cheating women must be much higher than reported. I think studies show that 20% of people have cheated and it's equal for both genders. What bullshit. First of all there are many people who would never answer such a survey truthfully, who can cheat without getting caught and take the secret to the grave. So those numbers are most likely low. And then women must have a much easier time finding partners to cheat with than most men, so I can't believe that the womens numbers ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 07:48 PM
1

Damn this is cringey. You saw a cute girl and you spiraled down into obsessively overanalyzing the interaction. Is your life really that boring? "You're too cute to be working here" is not a compliment. It's a sexual advance combined with an insult about her job. If you actually had some fun flirty conversation with her nobody would care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 06:47 PM
1

Your husband shouldn't be doing that imo. Creative feedback and advice within a relationship can be a minefield. Maybe it can work for some people but I think it's generally a bad idea. And from a TRP point of view, he should be more confident in his own vision instead of constantly seeking your approval and validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 06:10 PM
1

Read the sidebar! It's full of examples of manipulative behavior that men fall for. Many of those behaviors might be unconscious but a woman could choose to use them intentionally. Even something like AF/BB might often be a natural tendency that people fall into unconsciously which ultimately leads to unhappiness. But a woman might be able to apply the concept more strategically and get a better outcome. Awareness of the wall can't hurt. Understanding the concept of the alpha widow might help wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 10:55 PM
1

TRP attempts to describe the sexual strategies of women and as such it inadvertently contains a lot of advice that might be beneficial to women. It's also an unfiltered glimpse into the psychology of a lot of men, so I think any smart woman who truly studied TRP deeply could gain a lot of insight and develop some dating strategies that would work well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 09:54 PM
1

When dudes talk about celebrities they're looking at every beautiful celebrity in the world and are able to be picky and get really specific about their tastes because it's all hypothetical mental masturbation. In real life in any given room there is probably a woman who stands out above the others. It's contextual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 07:35 PM
1

Her cheating doesn't look bad on him? I would be embarrassed to admit it. It wouldn't make you wonder what he's like in bed or wonder what other reasons might have driven her to someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:23 PM
1

Isn't longer a more dramatic case of "how could you abandon the mother of your children after all these years!?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:20 PM
1

Only if he doesn't provide for his children/make time to see them. Really? Is that how the kids, wife, extended family and friends are going to feel? They're going to be fine with him splitting up the family and causing a bunch of stress and financial hardship because he was bored or unhappy? They're not going to blame him and hate the new woman he ends up with? That's not what I've experienced in my family.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:18 PM
1

So he branch swung?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:15 PM
1

It's not 1962 anymore. Being divorced isn't a huge deal. I might date a divorced guy, but the reasons would absolutely matter uh...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:15 PM
1

only men would think female divorcees dont lose status among women Why would men care about a woman's status among women? that being said the likelihood of any man i was attracted to having been divorced by his wife for DV or his cheating is astronomically higher than him having been divorced by his wife for being a beta schlep who got cheated on In the rare hypothetical instance where you were intitially attracted to a man and then found out that his wife had cheated on him, would you lose some…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:14 PM
1

Well first off, some men don't have any women making it easy for them. Second, a woman who makes it that easy is most likely not the best you could do. And finally TRP is not about finding a "partner" it's about having casual sex with lots of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 09:08 PM
1

TRP teaches men how to act in certain ways to get certain women. TRP theoretically teaches men what women respond to in general, which men can then use to get whatever type of woman they want. The principles are the same. Here is what I find: your personality dictates the TYPE OF PERSON you draw in, not the attractiveness of the person you draw in. That's backwards though. A man shouldn't be sitting back and waiting for his natural self to "draw in" a woman. He should be approaching and pursuing…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 07:29 PM
1

Oh nice, I didn't see that other graph. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 01:02 AM
1

For example I think a 58 year old woman would have no issue happily fucking Idris Elba. Of course she would. And so would most 38 year old women. And many 28 year old women. Probably some 18 year olds. It's tough to think of an example with the genders swapped though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 12:55 AM
1

Yep, it's all the same to me. A holistic sense of the person. Not just their looks. Not just their actions. Some mix of all of the above triggers my sexual motors. This is basically what TRP says isn't it? A woman's attraction to a man is not just about looks. "A man ages like wine" isn't just referring to looks either, but to the whole package. It makes perfect sense then why women would default to an answer near their own age. You're asking a woman about a hypothetical man so she imagines one …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 12:50 AM
1

That makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 12:37 AM
1

"Looks best" isn't the same thing as "would fuck." No 25 year old woman would say a 45 year old man looks the best, yet some 45 year old men are able to sleep with 25 year old women anyway. The acceptable range would be more relevant. A 49 year old man might say that 20 "looks best" but that doesn't mean he's going to turn down an attractive 40 year old woman. What's interesting is that reading through the whole wrinkle thread, it seems like women might go through a shift in tastes some time in …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 11:34 PM
1

I really don't think that is natural if you're at all healthy and in shape. It's inevitable some day but in your 30s you should be in your prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 08:20 PM
1

What's the opposite of the milk/wine rule? He's a bottle of rancid vinegar and she's a finely aged cheese?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 08:17 PM
1

Sounds like a health and fitness issue but maybe I just got lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 08:09 PM
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That's funny, a while back I was watching Layer Cake and thinking he looked mid '40s but I looked it up and he was only 36. Looking up younger photos of him, he always looked old.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:55 PM
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Wow that seems young.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:52 PM
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Wait, what age range are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:37 PM
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But in the '80s it was still seen as a "gay thing" and I don't think the panic over "it could be your kid too!" really happened until the mid '90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:21 PM
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Noticeably so for men in their 40s and 50s? Or are you talking more like men in their 80s and 90s? Or just a continuous decline through the years?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:18 PM
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What cream do you recommend?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:16 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:07 PM
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Yes, and we only ever see them via professional photo shoots with good lighting and makeup. Still any man could use those same cosmetic procedures if he wanted to. I don't think Goldblum looks that abnormal though. Women like him because he's tall, charming, has that voice, and is really stylish but if you look objectively at how his face has aged, it's not that weird. Men in their 60s that I know personally are not usually significantly more wrinkled than that unless they've worked outside in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:03 PM
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I don't like bald heads, not even shaved bald heads on masculine guys. I can't think of any bald guy I've ever found attractive. Gray hair doesn't bother me at all. Yeah I think baldness and gray hair are not for everyone but clearly there are younger women who are fine with one or the other if not both.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 06:51 PM
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So you're into smooth floating orbs? There's a porno about that called Phantasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 06:49 PM
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I was thinking of say Jeff Goldblum.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 06:48 PM
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Mid '90s? Jonas Brothers, Jesus Camp and all of that stuff was mid '00s. Mid '90s was still all about fear of teenagers getting AIDS, the movie Kids, and stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 06:18 PM
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That chart is stupid. Average dudes in the middle of the bell curve are fucking the absolute ugliest women? Women who are 10s have to slum it to be with the top guy who is only a 6? This is some dumb shit drawn by a man who is too insecure and homophobic to be able to recognize when another man is good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:15 AM
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white and Asian men mature slower and retain neoteny longer. this means that a lot of times a white or Asian man doesn't look masculine or mature til 27-32. this is what a lot of "late bloomers" are. Spot on. I was a very young and boyish looking 22 year old wondering why women weren't into me. Met my wife at 23, accidentally got her pregnant at 26, got married, then suddenly I'm 30 and women are checking me out and flirting with me. Still happens now in my 40s. I had no idea that this was the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:09 AM
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Well you're supposed to be secure enough in your own value and status that you're not constantly paranoid that she's cheating. And if she does you cut her loose and don't get all worked up over it because AWALT and you have abundance. What's the alternative? Stick your head in the sand, assume women are wonderful and that she'll never cheat? You realize that whether or not you believe she's capable of cheating doesn't actually affect the likelihood of whether or not she'll actually cheat. It's b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 09:12 PM
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That's only partial TRP. You're also supposed to realize that "she's not yours it's just your turn" and you're supposed to have abundance and plates. You're not supposed to have oneitis or put her on a pedestal, so when she tries to go on a girls trip by herself or whatever behavior you don't like you don't worry about it, you just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 07:50 PM
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After thinking about this some more I think there are a couple of rounds of sorting. There are some women who are just categorically unfuckable because they're old, obese, super ugly, or other disqualifications. These women are invisible to most men. Then there's a second round of selection where you see that a woman is roughly in the right age range, looks good from a distance, might be fuckable. Then when you get a closer look you might find further disqualifications. Even the 22 year old Chad…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 02:24 AM
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Well I'm in my 40s and I don't see very many women in their 50s that I find attractive. 60's and up basically none. I'm not attracted to fat women. And there are other "not my type" sorts of deal breakers. I live in a major west coast city and if I went out to the supermarket right now in a busy neighborhood with a diverse mix of people I would see at least a couple of homeless women outside. The checkers working in the store are usually not attractive. Inside would probably be at least 50% abov…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 11:59 PM
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No I'm not surprised that some people live in a sheltered bubble. I get it that a kid in his 20s living on a college campus and never venturing into the real world is attracted to 95% of the women he sees every day. Or that somebody who lives in a small, racially homogenous town and who is restricting it to people in their age range (wasn't originally specified in the OP) might be the same. But any adult man who lives in a real city is a low value freak if he's actually attracted to 95% of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 11:18 PM
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Women often complain that men immediately lump women into fuckable/not-fuckable categories and that women in the non-fuckable group are invisible. This would seem to hint at some truth there because there is no way your average guy is willing to fuck 95% of the women he encounters on a day to day basis! It just means that elderly women are invisible. Or they're talking to some college kid who lives in a little bubble entirely with young attractive people and never goes outside to go to the super…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 08:16 PM
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Does this statistic really mean anything? Millennials are aged 23-36 right now, so 29 is the actual median age of their generation at the moment. What about the unmarried ones? Will some who are now 23 end up getting married at 30? Will some of the unmarried 36 year olds get married at 40? Who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 11:12 PM
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So "society" is just a way to describe millions of human interactions and the related observable patterns, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 08:55 PM
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The same could be said of "markets."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 08:33 PM
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I view women much more charitably now. The idea of "the most responsible teenager in the house" was one of the most shockingly misogynistic things I read on TRP at first, but in the long run it has helped me the most. I used to hold my wife to too high of a standard and would get very frustrated when she would talk about inane things, act irrationally, and be totally immune to logical, rational discussion. I would sometimes wonder what was wrong with her and kind of look down on her but understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 08:00 PM
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For me, I would just about rather die than be a single mother. What about letting your kid be raised by a single parent without you? Isn't that reason enough to stay? Are you suggesting that its impossible for a woman in a tough situation like that to be manipulated into making the wrong choice? It was still her choice at the end of the day though. The choice to not have an abortion when pregnant is 100% a conscious choice to have a child. The choice to not wear a condom when you think your part…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 08:41 AM
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No, they didn't want the kid. Once she got pregnant she had the sole decision to keep it or not. What if she kept it and he stayed and divorced her five years later? Becoming a single mother is always a risk. A different sort of risk though. Not any better or worse, just different. I could easily flip that around on dudes. You really didn't want a kid, but didn't take responsibility for your own birth control? I'm always down to wrap it up but she preferred without and I honestly though the pill…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 07:28 AM
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I was raised to believe it was her body, her choice and I was scared to even bring up the topic of abortion. I called my parents hoping for advice and all I got was excitement that they were going to be grandparents. And of course this was before anything like Reddit or TRP existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 07:05 AM
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That sucks but it's a completely different problem. She wanted the kid and wanted to be with him and he left but she still has the kid. A little different than not wanting a kid and getting one. I know a couple of women who tell stories like this and I'm very skeptical. So you were in your mid 30s and "accidentally" got pregnant with a guy you weren't married to and he bailed, and he's the bad guy? Don't you understand that if I left and she kept the child this is exactly the story she would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:58 AM
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I was so young and naive that the possibility she did that didn't really occur to me until years later. And of course I still have no proof. It could have really been a mistake and she didn't take it once accidentally but come on. And yes I'm embarrassed to say it happened a second time years later. I don't want to say how but she used a different technique. Yes, I'm an idiot. But I love my kids and want to be around them every day and I don't want to lose my house and be financially ruined. Say…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:38 AM
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"Neither" must be retirees? I don't know. It's hard to parse the date they chose to provide. I live in a fairly high income area and I would say most moms don't work or work part-time, low-income, low-stress jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:20 AM
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Why do you guys act like you have NO agency in who you marry and what marriage looks like?? I got married because I wanted to be there for the kid that we had when she lied and stopped taking the pill. Women don't ever face that problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:16 AM
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In the US, only 53% of married couples have both the husband and wife working. In 18% only the husband works.16% neither work. 6% only the wife works. 3% the husband and another family member works, and 1% the wife and another family member works. So 74% of married men work vs 60% of married women. But this doesn't account for part time vs full time. https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/womens-databook/2018/home.htm#table-24b
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:10 AM
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Yes, but when I was younger I was clueless and socially awkward about this stuff. My first girlfriend at 13 pursued me and made it happen. Second at 16 did the same. Lots of opportunities in college that I was too dumb to take advantage of or know how to escalate. The ones who were more forward and just started making out with me or straight up asking if I wanted to have sex were usually not as attractive. My wife was a coworker who would show up unexpectedly at my apartment late at night and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 06:16 PM
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Privileges are not so much about what people want as the realities of what benefits they enjoy. Like when people talk about "white privilege" they're not talking about a set of demands that white people have asked for, they're talking about privileges that people enjoy without realizing it. Historically, women were completely taken care of financially by men. But what women wanted was the right to be independent, the right to vote, the right to work, and the right to a bank account of their own.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 01:04 AM
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