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I had decided I was done with wasting my time on dating apps and started lining myself up with fun activities where I could meet people. Then COVID hit. No concerts, gym, yoga, outdoor clubs, beach volleyball... back to shite online dating to kill the time.
/r/seduction27/04/20 08:04 PM
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I've been considering how most of my friends being nerdy has been impacting my pre-COVID ability to even meet women I'd be attracted to. Not going to meet a fit, attractive woman who is fashionable if I'm spending my time playing board games at someone's place because they're married and see no point to leaving the house anymore. Not that I don't enjoy that, it's great, but I need some friends to be out enjoying things like yoga classes, dancing, live music, etc... if I'm going to meet the kind …
/r/seduction15/04/20 09:46 PM

Hey, thanks for the tailored suggestion. I hadn't thought of using Instagram for the purpose of building up a social circle but that might just work. I live in Vancouver and see beautiful active women daily, your strategy seems viable. Cheers!
/r/seduction13/05/18 10:05 PM

I've gone to four series of swing dance and each time it was mostly older women or younger women with their unenthusiastic boyfriend. I couldn't believe how poorly that worked out. At least it was a fun skill to learn.
/r/seduction13/05/18 09:12 PM

Dude, this is my life right now. I've even gone as far as expanding my social circle to include women and even they don't have any single friends and/or they are...less than desirable. Sometimes a social circle just won't help set you up with someone. I'm in your shoes, trying to find ways to meet someone outside of online dating. As an aside, my latest attempt is to find an activity that women do enjoy that I might enjoy enough to not feel like I'm just doing it to meet someone. Right now that …
/r/seduction13/05/18 09:06 PM
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TIL I'm old.
/r/seduction06/05/18 04:01 PM
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Look at this chump going after those thick aluminum bikes, you know those wheels are just going to get old, busted and end up giving rides to anyone around town before winding up in the ditch, right? Bro, have some self respect. Go for the commuters, the road bikes, mountain bikes if you're into that, even one of those hippy green electric hybrids... there are no leagues, even a high class carbon fiber is doable, just need to start riding and practice your peddling.
/r/seduction05/03/18 04:10 PM
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My bumble game is not ever getting matches. Really keeps life simple.
/r/seduction09/02/18 09:04 PM
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Your comment made me laugh uncontrollably, thanks.
/r/seduction23/01/18 03:51 AM
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Plenty of fit girls are "ugly" but are considered attractive. I definitely agree with this post, fitness can go a long way with regards to physical attraction.
/r/seduction22/11/17 07:08 AM
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2 > 0 All about perspective my friend
/r/seduction14/11/17 09:06 PM
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I personally am not attracted to chubby girls, but that doesn't mean anyone should be shamed for enjoying sex with anyone of any body type. So long as you and her had a good time, that's all that matters. Your friends are being immature dicks.
/r/seduction01/11/17 07:49 PM
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No, but I've seriously considered just deleting all of the different apps I use. In the last year, I've been on about 6 dates and each of the women have been pretty mediocre with ridiculous expectations compared with women I've met in person in the past. I get a sense that women use it for validation and less about actually meeting people for fun. edit: I should mention I've become a lot more selective in who I will date lately. If I match with an attractive girl and she responds with a one-word…
/r/seduction12/08/17 09:12 PM
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Source?
/r/seduction21/07/17 01:30 AM
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This is some good, simple advice. I want to date an athletic girl, or at the very least someone who takes care of themselves without needing outside influence. I guess my best bet is to start asking whoever I bump into about their routine. Cheers for the post mate!
/r/seduction19/07/17 08:08 PM
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I don't care if this story is legit or not, it was hella entertaining.
/r/seduction27/06/17 01:34 AM
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I suppose I should start by just talking to groups as I meet them on the trails and go from there, I don't currently have a crew who enjoy hiking (or lack the level of fitness for me to enjoy going with them).
/r/seduction06/06/17 08:57 PM
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Yeah, the comment you're replying to is both true and false. You can have lots of hobbies that don't typically have women participating. I think the real answer is to find a passion which has a good mix of genders based on your current interests.
/r/seduction06/06/17 08:19 PM
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Are you finding you meet women doing these things? I love hiking and cycling but don't bump into many women, well, at least single ones. Are you joining groups?
/r/seduction06/06/17 08:16 PM
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Awesome post, thanks for framing this in an easy to digest manner. I still struggle with this as an adult in his early 30's, but this is a simple and clear way to remember to stop allowing negative thoughts, both in general and about myself. Cheers!
/r/seduction15/05/17 07:16 AM

What I found was that the books for women that were on the shelves in Barnes & Noble were the most pathetic, disenfranchising, unfeminist tomes I could have dreamt up. Most of them insisted that I ought to remain passive in order to gain a man’s attention, that I should just go out and sit at a bar and wait for a man to approach me, and that if he didn’t approach me then he just wasn’t that into me and that I should just accept it and move on. Or that I should get a man by just “being myself,” b…
/r/seduction27/03/17 05:18 PM
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I can't think of any off the top of my head, just a lucky find I wanted to share.
/r/seduction23/03/17 06:00 PM

Not directly seduction material, but I felt this was a valuable technique you could use both in your daily life and while on a date to demonstrate value and directly influence emotional connection. The suggested practice of building your own personal database of stories on which to draw from, with specific intent to illicit an emotional response, seems like it could complement other techniques we read about on here.
/r/seduction22/03/17 11:58 PM
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I have similar problems and honestly for me I've recently realized it was because I was living a life I have always dreaded and promised myself I wouldn't fall into; go to work, pay bills, come home apartment in the city, try to find activities to distract myself and make myself feel interesting. A large deviation from what I used to aspire towards, which was largely entrepreneurial, independent and pursuing rural living for the freedom it provides. So what am I doing now to escape the humdrum? …
/r/seduction27/02/17 12:15 AM
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Agreed. Find a couch surfer Meetup or meditation group. Plenty of people would be interested in discussing Buddhism in those kinds of groups.
/r/seduction27/02/17 12:08 AM
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I've recently tried joining a Dodgeball team of random people and started taking swim classes. Both have been a bust (everyone is in a relationship and few are interested in friends), but I think I'll try a running clinic next because I see plenty of fit women running together during those and it seems to fit the local culture for what intelligent women do during the summer. My personal issue is that the majority of activities I enjoy are solitary or male dominated (cycling, weights, game dev, e…
/r/seduction06/02/17 06:20 AM
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My biggest issue is that I don't meet any women I'd be interested in and have no interest in going downtown to meet city girls because that never results in what works with me (I find city life boring). That being said, I've joined swimming and dodgeball both to continue my fitness and hopefully meet some cool people, eventually I'm going this expanded social circle will give me more opportunities.
/r/seduction22/01/17 05:18 PM
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I'd suggest talking about your business ventures instead. You can mention the day job is paying the bills while you pursue more ambitious goals.
/r/seduction03/12/16 05:23 PM
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Very good point, the assumption that everyone is not bothered is false. However, knowing there is a percentage of people who will be bothered should not stop you from making an approach and you certainly shouldn't feel bad if the other person ends up being uncomfortable about it so long as you're being respectful and leave gracefully when it becomes known they don't want your attention.
/r/seduction06/11/16 02:56 AM
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Thanks for reminding me, I had meant to buy that and give it a read.
/r/seduction26/09/16 05:02 AM
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I had not considered that I might be holding on to some mental angst regarding attractive women that might be holding me back; souring my perspective before I've even spoken to someone. Will have to work on letting those thoughts go now that I'm aware of it. Thanks for the post!
/r/seduction06/09/16 06:31 AM
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So just the "place to sit" part then, ya?
/r/seduction27/07/16 06:09 AM
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I've honestly never approached someone randomly like that but I keep seeing beautiful women and wanted to. This is exactly what I needed... Just a simple formula to follow. Nice find!
/r/seduction21/07/16 01:52 AM
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Yeah, that will happen and unfortunately I think in most realistic situations the girl is going to go along with what her friend wants long before going home with you. I'd be pissed too (and have had that happen) but now that you're sober and had some time to process, look on the bright side, you have her number and reasonable expectation that she's into you. Text her and set a date!
/r/seduction13/04/15 12:21 AM
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Doing west coast swing right now and it's really great for helping me feel confident touching women more openly. Plus dancing and spinning girls around is fun!
/r/seduction01/04/15 01:04 AM
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Yes, I think in the case of criticism it's more about your emotional response to it. If you get offended or hurt by a critique, you're not choosing to accept it well... whereas if you earnestly soak in the information and use what you can to improve yourself, you're choosing to respond positively to it.
/r/seduction16/03/15 07:15 AM
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Maybe instead of a "no approach policy" at the gym, you could relax that personal rule just slightly. For example, maybe you'd feel okay having a quick chat with a cute girl if you happen to find yourself doing a similar activity, or need to use a piece of equipment after she's done with it. Just an idea, because I can't think of any better environment for finding a girl who likes to hit the gym, except maybe a fitness class or something.
/r/seduction13/01/15 03:08 AM
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Awesome list, I must admit I've started to drop the ball in a few of these areas. The curse of being an adult with a more than full time hours job. However, this is a good reminder that I need to find the time for these things because not only will it improve myself for me, but with that comes the increased ability to attract & seduce a lovely lady. Great list buddy, keep it up and you'll be the envy of many men later in life.
/r/seduction21/09/14 05:16 AM
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Wanted to, had a very obvious moment where I could have easily made it happen. Decided against it, still not sure if it was the right choice or not. Probably made the right choice, but damn... was tough holding myself back!
/r/seduction06/09/14 05:26 AM
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I know women who are actually in tech and quite frankly, the vast majority of them HATE being singled out as being a "strong woman in tech". As my one friend said, "I just like to code. Why can't I be considered a coder?" which I think is where we should all be aiming in terms of gender equality. This whole, let's pat ourselves on the back for doing something and having a vagina, thing needs to go away, it only creates division between the sexes in the workplace.
/r/MensRights01/09/14 04:26 AM
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I've learned that I'm not good looking in my photos. I'm a decent, average looking guy and I know some women are attracted to me, but if I'm to use online methods I need to get some professional photos taken because my average dorky photos that get taken with my friends just don't seem to cut it.
/r/seduction29/08/14 07:21 AM
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Alright random internet stranger, I'm trusting that these sheet will be awesome! Don't let me down!
/r/seduction29/08/14 06:41 AM
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Part of your strategy requires that you already have a wide social network of attractive single women, I'm willing to be that a lot of us on here don't have that. However, kudos to you for sharing an interesting strategy. Mutual interest in an activity is always a great place to start. edit - Whoops, re-read your post and realized you were messaging new people on these groups. My bad. Anyways, pretty damn clever, starting with mutual interest is always a good strategy.
/r/seduction18/08/14 12:40 AM
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Not really on topic, but I honestly had no idea there were people who are otherwise capable of walking but require a chair for long distances. Learned something new today!
/r/seduction24/06/14 09:27 PM
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I always thought I "hated dancing" but after taking a couple swing dance lessons with my ex, I quickly realized I just didn't enjoy club dancing. Definitely agree with this comment, take some lessons in a style you feel you might enjoy.
/r/seduction23/06/14 06:46 PM
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but that's what's so frustrating, feeling powerless. You aren't powerless, you're just putting your mental energy in the wrong place. You obviously smitten with this girl and she has shown returned interest, now it's up to you to make it happen. There is a quote I've always identified with, "Think of the solution, not the problem". What your problem right now? You live too far away and are sitting there frustrated, obsessing over this problem. What can you do to overcome this? Take the bus to vi…
/r/seduction11/06/14 05:36 AM
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A good friend of mine is married and will go to clubs just to dance. The number of women who hit on him is significant. If you could only project that level of "I love doing this because it's what I love doing" at a club, you would never have a problem picking up.
/r/seduction07/06/14 02:53 AM
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I still think that like men, women have battles to fight. I'd even say that we have more, and more deeply seated battles, but perhaps that is my bias. However as I said, I cannot call myself a feminist anymore, as it's clear that they don't want me. I am now a humanist. That pretty much sums up my opinion on the whole matter, I think there's value in recognizing the unique challenges that people of all sexes must face (female, male, trans, etc...) and in an ideal world that's where feminism and …
/r/MensRights29/05/14 11:47 PM
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Oh, you went for the serious answer. Was mostly joking but that's probably the best answer.
/r/seduction02/05/14 11:29 PM
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What if she's both pretty and smart!? What then!?
/r/seduction02/05/14 11:23 PM
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That book is for guys who want to improve who they are and present themselves in an attractive manner. All other PUA material I've read is just about tricks you use on both yourself and others, which might work but they don't address the root problem. Definitely second that book as a recommendation.
/r/seduction17/02/14 01:54 AM
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Agreed. Being "feminine" doesn't mean giving up masculinity. It just means completely and confidently expressing your more "soft" attributes. Most guys who do this wrong end up expressing something to get a result, showing compassion when they really don't care. Instead it should be a true reflection of self. If you love puppies and turn to mush around them, own it without shame.
/r/seduction23/01/14 07:52 AM
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It's obviously a single person bathroom, chill out and focus your energy on important issues and not a sensationalist imgur post
/r/MensRights08/01/14 05:18 AM

Every day I'm beginning to hate this place...I want hear about real issues, not whiny complaints about non-issues. Thanks for being rational
/r/MensRights08/01/14 05:09 AM

No, it's just a bathroom.
/r/MensRights08/01/14 05:06 AM

This is not an issue, it's just smart logistics based on how the different sexes use the washrooms. Downvote for being hyperbole
/r/MensRights08/01/14 03:16 AM
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I don't understand the joke
/r/MensRights13/12/13 09:11 AM
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That's a fair point, though I personally still think that particular example of a female game character is overtly sexual for no reason, given the context of the game it is in. edit: Oh, she has the ability to camouflage her skin... I take back my comment a little bit, given that context the design make sense. She would obviously want to show as much skin as possible given that ability.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 08:27 PM
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And she could also be a terrible person, or maybe super compatible wih you. You can never know until you talk to her to find out!
/r/seduction22/11/13 12:29 PM
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That's a good point, I've been reading it on my phone and feel like once I'm done I will end up having to skim through and make notes to remember the key points.
/r/seduction19/11/13 06:04 AM
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Bought it a couple weeks ago, it's pretty much my #1 recommendation to anyone on this particular subject. You can pick up a digital copy on Amazon.
/r/seduction18/11/13 08:02 PM
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Oh sorry, I assumed by submitting it would have picked up on a repost, I'll delete it then.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 05:40 AM

That's okay, being a man I obviously earn more money than women, so it balances out right?
/r/MensRights29/10/13 02:11 AM
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I'm an average looking guy, maybe slightly below average (so what, want to fight about it?), and online dating is almost a waste of time for me. I've sent out hundreds of messages, not a single copy-pasta, and get maybe 2% of those turn into conversations. After a few messages I suggest meeting up and they usually just stop replying. Funny thing is I get WAY more attention in real life just walking around than I do online. The one aspect of online dating that I do find value in is practicing out…
/r/seduction27/10/13 08:17 PM
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I have approach anxiety and in my case, it's a problem of my mind going completely blank the moment I see an attractive woman. I've always been quiet and not the kind of person who sparks up conversation, but I'm working on it. What would you suggest to "prep" myself with mentally before going out, so I have SOMETHING to say when I see the next attractive woman.
/r/seduction12/10/13 12:38 AM
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I recently joined a dodgeball team, not only because I enjoy the sport and like to be active but also as an excuse to be around attractive, fit, women. It's perfect because everyone there automatically shares a common interest and it's easy to start up a conversation with anyone. Maybe you should look into local meetups or sports and just go? Worst case you end up doing something fun for yourself anyways. For me, it's the kind of practice I need because I always go completely blank when approach…
/r/seduction12/10/13 12:34 AM
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I've read the "Fuck Yes or No" article before, glad you posted it. Simple phrase with a lot of power.
/r/seduction09/10/13 07:13 AM
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To clarify, I don't think the "stick your cock out" advice is about actually achieving that goal, but rather just forcing you to not hunch over. Just a humorous reminder to keep good posture. But yes, I would have enjoyed to see you try, not so sure how that one would would for a woman. Maybe the female equivalent is "stick yo tits out"? :P
/r/seduction21/09/13 05:49 PM
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After a recent break-up, I decided to start tackling some of these points you've highlighted. Definitely a good place to start. For the Body Language one, I read somewhere a bit of advice that really stuck with me that helps in two ways, with regards to posture... "When you walk through the door, what's the first thing that should be entering the room?".... "Your cock." If you stand up and try it, it actually works quite well in forcing you to have a more dominant stance. Plus, if you walk aroun…
/r/seduction21/09/13 06:27 AM
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Is that photo real? I'd swear it's shopped but it doesn't look like it is.
/r/seduction21/09/13 03:58 AM
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If I were dating a woman and she "liked" that, her audition would be cut short.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 06:20 PM
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This is Hyperbole at it's finest. There's some truth to it, but it's completely ridiculous, all of the female gamers that I know were playing games right along with us boys growing up. This comment brought to you by Pole Force One, upcoming brawler video game features super hero strippers!
/r/MensRights14/09/13 07:59 PM
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PSA - Be careful with deadlifts, I started to incorporate them into my workout without really knowing what I was doing. Felt great for the first couple of months, then I starting getting over-confident and put too much weight... it's taken me about 4 months to recover from pulling my back. Next time, I'm going to hire a personal training to teach me how to do them properly. Otherwise, they are great for posture & strength!
/r/seduction10/09/13 04:21 AM
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Thank you for this post. I hate wading through the bullshit here, but every now and then someone like yourself redeems the community. Good job!
/r/seduction30/08/13 09:24 PM
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Yeah, she just typed it into her message box and showed me. I just had a "derp" moment and didn't realize my mistake until after I had left. If I HAD clued in, I probably would have said something like, "Oh wow! That's crazy, you should have had a couple more drinks and gone to his bed for some fun." Play along a little while giving details.
/r/seduction14/07/13 10:54 PM
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I was chatting up a girl at a bar, going well, then she shows me her phone saying, "Look what this boy I was baby sitting texted me". Her phone read "Do you want to fuck tonight?"....I took her cover as literal and said, "whoah...that's crazy a young kid would send that to you". Totally missed that chance, I guess not so much beta as it was a stupid mistake. Funny though
/r/seduction14/07/13 07:11 PM

You looked at them!? You must be a misogynist!
/r/MensRights06/07/13 06:50 PM
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I would extend that concept a little farther (purely for conversation / thought) to that a child need a social network of support. A single parent braving it on their own, while commendable when faced with that reality, is not the ideal situation for any kid. A happy family group, whether it's genetic / adopted / friends, gives them this benefit no matter what the makeup.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 01:31 AM
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The man is having fun and goofing around with his excess weight. The woman is just a body shot. While they may seem similar, that small change makes a huge difference in how people will identify with the photo. I disagree that this is a good example of gender bias.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 06:31 PM
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...so we're not allowed to even look at women now?
/r/MensRights13/03/13 03:50 AM
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I can't really add anything constructive but I have to say the answers on this thread really disappoint me. Come on guys, put some effort into this, analyse the times when a woman has come to pick YOU up and figure out what she did right. For me, the only time this has happened, the girl made light flirtatious physical contact. I responded in kind, she escalated and started dropping in hints into her conversation like, "why don't we go to the bar near my place". From there, had a few drinks and …
/r/seduction28/02/13 08:50 AM
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Comparing two kickstarter campaigns is nothing more than a difference between successful marketing. There is absolutely zero issue attached with the success of failure of such a thing, yet the narrative is that "feminism bad". It's a non-issue and is only there to target someone and drum up angry sentiments. Something which I view as unproductive. So why do you feel it is reasonable?
/r/MensRights25/02/13 02:34 AM
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What makes you say that?
/r/MensRights24/02/13 10:06 PM
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How do you figure MR movements cannot be successful simply because there are groups actively suppressing it. Would it not be logical to assume that if these MR groups had a clear, simple, effective message without resorting to attacking other groups that it would still be heard, despite the counter-arguments? It's like political attack-ads, it's obviously just there to tarnish a name and yes, some people will fall for it, but the majority of people can see through that tactic. Focus on the issue…
/r/MensRights24/02/13 09:44 PM
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I'll agree that there is always value in discussion around a topic and the one you are referring to was well put together. I suppose my concern is more about how a large number of posts / comments end with some bullshit statement like, "but women are oppressed". This really rubs me the wrong way because it comes off as bitter, angry and counter-productive. I'd hope that the initial posts themselves would be devoid of that kind of language simply because it sets the tone for the discussion as tha…
/r/MensRights24/02/13 09:40 PM
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For those of you clearly unaware, a "sugar daddy" arrangement is where a man will voluntarily pay for a woman's things in exchange for her spending time with him and sex. Basically prostitution but more social. As an aside, I can't imagine what goes through a man's head when he decides to do this just to get a pretty girl by his side. I had a female roommate who had a couple sugar daddies and I couldn't believe what they would pay for in exchange for having her around for a couple hours.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 09:02 PM
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Downvote because this is retarded. The success or failure of a Kickstarter has more to do with the audience and marketing than any "societal trend". This post reeks of whiney blame-game and only serves to attack groups that are not MR. Not productive at all. edit: I'm disappointed in you MR, this subreddit is slowly turning into the same bullshit you are fighting against.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 06:09 AM
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I've never understood how anyone can get mad at data, except if it's gathered poorly. So what if the result aren't what you hoped, why not work towards changing the causes of those results instead of bitching at the messenger?
/r/MensRights30/01/13 02:40 AM
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Nope, just men in disguise, Ms.Doubtfire style!
/r/MensRights19/01/13 06:21 PM
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Nah man, you haven't been at the hiring table. It's a bunch of old white guys sitting around cackling about how they are going to keep women out of the games industry while shredding every female applicant's resume.
/r/MensRights19/01/13 08:59 AM
1

Teared up a little while reading this on the bus, amazing comic.
/r/MensRights17/12/12 05:47 AM
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I take back my critique, I just realized how laughable the whole idea of even finding statistics on elevator rape is. Good job my friend, I enjoyed reading your methods and results anyways, no matter whether they make sense. Good night!
/r/MensRights28/11/12 07:16 AM
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The people who are in the elevator category aren't also in the lottery category, seems odd to compare a group who has no chance of being in one of the hypothetical situations. Maybe I'm wrong though, statistics is a weak subject of mine.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 07:05 AM
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Lottery can only be won in the US, the elevator statistics are from the entire planet. Replacing the world population with US population it still comes out to somewhere around 100 times more likely to win the lottery.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 06:48 AM

Imagine if it was instead a jacked up guy proudly holding up a woman's tits that he just sheared off, I imagine that would be equally socially acceptable, right?
/r/MensRights19/11/12 07:09 AM

I just assume men who give un-necessarily rough handshakes are insecure with themselves.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 02:55 AM
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Perhaps you need to do some research on humour and it's place in society.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 05:59 PM
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Females be crazy.
/r/MensRights18/08/12 11:36 PM
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The definition of "right" and "wrong" are never the same for any two people, so in that sense I can respect that opinion. I suppose, in a way, I see it in the same light as you... would never want anyone to be doing those things but I can agree that while it's not becoming what I consider an upstanding person, it's not wrong.
/r/seduction29/07/12 09:53 PM
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It's a lack of compassion because you don't know this guy. If it were your friend, would you still do the same thing?
/r/seduction29/07/12 06:34 PM
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If she's happy to cheat on her boyfriend, that's her fuckup, not yours. I honestly don't understand the mental disconnect you are expressing. If it's an open relationship or she neglected to mention a BF, you're in the clear. To conscientiously go after someone when you know they are otherwise with someone is just weak. There are plenty of women, why be a part of causing harm to someone else? Yeah, she's the bigger part of the fuck-up equation but the fact that you are in there means you're part…
/r/seduction29/07/12 05:58 PM
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What you need is to cut all strings and start a new life for yourself. Pack your bag with what you need to survive, sell everything else, cancel anything with your name attached to it and move somewhere new. Just because things are miserable now doesn't mean you can't have a great life moving forward.
/r/MensRights28/07/12 09:24 PM
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That's true, I guess I'm not really sure how to communicate what I find difficult, I'll think on it...
/r/seduction27/07/12 01:36 PM
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I honestly wish Western culture was a bit more like this to be honest. The requirement for instant and continual building of attraction (which for me, is mostly faked) from day #1 is exhausting. My personal attributes and natural tendencies are for a more slow approach where I can show my worth over time, would be nice to be in a culture somewhere in between the two extremes.
/r/seduction26/07/12 11:04 PM
2

She wants the fucking champion, and that's a guy who can put up with all the drama she brings to the table. I respect that you are speaking the truth, but I can only find myself wondering why anyone would deal with that bullshit. I don't give a shit if she's the hottest fucking woman on earth, I'm not going to put up with childish drama.
/r/seduction24/07/12 03:33 PM
15

Not all women will be like what the OP describes. After reading this, I pretty much concluded that I'd never want that kind of woman.
/r/seduction24/07/12 01:28 PM

So you're equating a time-out as being on the same scale as genital mutilation? Makes sense.
/r/MensRights15/07/12 03:40 PM
3

This is the reason I am still subscribed here, the hidden gems that occasionally surface.
/r/seduction14/07/12 01:39 PM
2

As a man who is looking for a woman with your exact mentality, I must say thanks for the insightful post. Kinda nice to know the more "gentlemanly" approach, which is much more what I'd prefer to do. Perhaps you wouldn't mind making a post about non-club / dance scenarios. I personally hate dancing so my chances of picking up in this way is minimal.
/r/seduction07/07/12 12:06 AM
1

Who cares? It's just an idiotic subreddit dedicated to shocking materials. I'm pretty sure any "support" it has will be lumped in with the overall ludicrous nature and anyone who claims otherwise is just feeding the trolls. I wouldn't worry about it, just continue to post positive, insightful and respectful material here and our own reputation will naturally stamp out any contradictory slander.
/r/MensRights06/07/12 05:21 AM
0

If the statistic is correct then no problem sharing it, but what is the point of the message? I think it lacks context. If it were to promote women not staying in abusive relationships because there's a high probability of being murdered, then I'm all for it. But in it's current presentation, it just does nothing but paint 30% of men as evil.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 12:31 PM
-5

I'm a man and I fully support the discussion of men's rights but this is just whiny bitching that does nothing to make the situation better. It's posts like these that hurt the legitimacy of our cause and this subreddit and I'm ashamed at the number of downvotes people are giving to the criticism in here without offering any kind of counter argument. Whole lot of butt-hurt hate in here.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 11:50 AM

I don't really understand the point of this thread. Nothing productive is being discussed, it's just a continuation of the "he said / she said" which will perpetually have the two special interest groups at each other's throats. edit: And this is what's wrong with both groups. I get 3 downvotes and no explanation as to why my comment does not contribute to the conversation. Good job guys, way to make your point, have fun with the circle-jerk.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 05:07 AM
3

For reference, if you get a message similar to this, don't click on the link. It's best if you don't feed the trolls. I have delivered a new message to the masses. This is not over, Huey. r/pickup will rise from the ashes created by r/seduction moderator TofuTofu, a known troublemaker and scammer.
/r/seduction25/06/12 07:16 PM
2

I was going to hate on this list until I noticed it was a long article that explained each point. I enjoyed the content and your style of no-bullshit narrative. Learned a couple new perspectives too, nice post!
/r/seduction20/06/12 05:15 AM
2

I tried to watch the video on my phone and it said, "Major bummer...(explanation it's not available on mobile)". I laughed. Bum.
/r/seduction09/06/12 03:51 PM
1

I almost exclusively find myself wearing blue jeans and every time I buy some other kind of pants, I never end up wearing them because they aren't as comfortable, only work with a few shirts and generally speaking just don't quite feel right. What kind of recommendation can you give for versatile pants that aren't a dark pair of jeans? Also, what would you recommend to go with them?
/r/seduction31/05/12 03:33 AM
2

Absolutely, but you probably will prefer to demonstrate it in more sutble ways. Start practicing being more assertive, if someone asks your opinion or what to do next, make a decision and stick to it confidently. In no way does it mean you HAVE to be the center of attention or externally expressive (ie dancing, life of party types).
/r/seduction09/04/12 03:55 PM
2

"Really? That's the first I've heard of this.... So as I was saying...(continue conversation)" - Just brushing it off is how I would likely handle it.
/r/seduction17/03/12 07:55 PM
5

Moderate the time you spend gaming because you want to cut back some, not because of how someone else might view you. Use a timer if you're worried about getting lost in the game. I would never consider stopping a hobby because someone else might think it's stupid. If a woman doesn't like you because you game, why would even want to be with her?
/r/seduction16/03/12 06:12 AM
2

Introvert is the wrong word to use, but your message has merit. However, I would argue that those who love themselves have a greater probability of success than those who do not.
/r/seduction21/02/12 10:30 PM
1

Yep, made that mistake once.
/r/seduction18/02/12 07:30 AM
8

Personally, I only date a single girl at a time for this very reason. Even though there are arguments that would make me logically support dating multiple people, I can't emotionally justify it. To me, it seems complicated, emotionally taxing and makes me feel disingenuous in my actions and intentions. What I suggest is trying to figure out where your discomfort comes from and why. Only then can you start to address the problem. Note: I'm not suggesting what you are doing is wrong. Just wanted t…
/r/seduction12/02/12 06:51 PM
43

Stand there and don't move, her vision is based on movement.
/r/seduction12/02/12 07:07 AM
2

Yeah, I'd have to agree with your summary. The moment he said, "okay, you're going to give me your number" the entire table visibly tensed. She still gave it, but I guarantee she felt pressured. I like your suggested approach much better.
/r/seduction05/02/12 11:28 PM
1

Had a similar thing happen to me, I was at Chapters looking through the computer graphics section and had a cute Indian girl come up to me and ask some random question about the books I was looking at. Had a brief awkward conversation about Photoshop... it wasn't until after we parted ways that I realized she was trying to initiate with me. While her approach was awkward and bad... I kick my own ass for not having recognized it and made MY move to reciprocate.
/r/seduction05/02/12 06:07 PM
1

Which is funny given that he's a pretty normal looking guy.
/r/seduction05/02/12 05:42 PM
1

Float! That's a much better way to describe it.
/r/seduction22/01/12 12:47 AM
1

That both made me feel like shit and inspired me to keep trying. Thanks!
/r/seduction21/01/12 07:04 AM
3

I forget the name of the technique but cycle between left eye, right eye and lips. Make a triangle with your gaze at the right speed and you'll avoid staring anywhere for too long.
/r/seduction21/01/12 01:20 AM
2

How can I identify women like yourself who are open to just having a good time? I keep meeting women who string me along and later I discover they have fears of intimacy, kind of frustrating.
/r/seduction18/01/12 07:49 AM
10

Perhaps women who look younger are more attractive and therefore more likely to have sex more?
/r/seduction16/01/12 04:10 PM
1

Sedditor I've come a long way from my FA days and still haven't quite had the relationship I hope to have, but yes, I am content with myself and I have seddit (and many other sub-reddits) to thank for providing the information that has helped me along.
/r/seduction12/01/12 03:05 AM
3

I was trying to put together a summary of my experience going from a complete failure with women to now having had a couple girlfriends and being able to date without huge anxiety... but I think Fangs79 has really summarized every success story you will read. Have patience, congratulate yourself on any success and learn from your failures/experiences.
/r/seduction08/01/12 09:14 PM
2

Thanks! I too felt that way about the subreddit at first glance, but after giving it a chance I've found there is a wealth of valuable information that is intended to help people grow and become a more attractive and desired person. You just have to forgive the terminology and ignore the posts that don't suit what you are looking for. Hence why I tried to write this as universally as possible.
/r/seduction06/01/12 02:00 AM
3

True, but I think it's in poor taste to actively work towards making it happen when there are so many other women out there who don't have a boyfriend.
/r/seduction04/01/12 05:19 PM
7

I don't mean to sound like a prude, but it's post like these that give Seddit a bad reputation. Don't pursue someone if they have a significant other except in the rare case they are polyamorous.
/r/seduction04/01/12 02:39 PM
3

Continue improving myself through healthy diet, regular exercise, pushing my social boundaries and remain in a confident, attractive state by not concerning myself with how others view me.
/r/seduction31/12/11 10:37 PM
7

Be thankful it only happens with your friend, for me it's my sister... Eewwww
/r/seduction26/12/11 03:57 AM
2

EDIT: Thread stops being about semantics at the 4th/5th paragraph Why should I read a long, rambling post when it starts off with that? I made a very clear point that was three sentences long, if he responds with a clear argument against it, I'll give it a read, but I don't want to read something where the OP admits the first half of his own post is bullshit. Not to mention it's the second time he posted it because it got down-voted the first time. edit: Just out of curiosity sake, I read it... …
/r/seduction17/12/11 03:16 AM
1

I don't feel like reading all that, I'll just say I disagree. Breaking things down is a means for teaching others and making an abstract concept easier to understand by compartmentalizing it. It's about sharing information efficiently, not suggesting they are disconnected and un-related to each other.
/r/seduction17/12/11 01:57 AM
1

Online dating has been a great way for me to move past my fearful AFC days and towards being more comfortable with women. It basically gives me the opportunity to slowly work on one thing at a time and with each real life date I become more comfortable. I definitely have approach anxiety and use it as a crutch, but I'm so much better off due to being able to get dates at all. Hell, I've recently met an HB9 online, gone on a couple dates and she's actually into me! (As a life-long, 26M, geek with…
/r/seduction09/12/11 04:55 PM
6

"I'm the greatest person alive, bow down before me fore you are but a mere mortal in the presence of a GOD!" Though sometimes I like to change it up with "Hey, how's it going?"
/r/seduction05/12/11 10:23 PM
1

TIL people need to be told obvious things. I wouldn't have a problem with the obvious being stated if it were backed up by helpful advice, examples and a unique perspective.
/r/seduction05/12/11 10:11 PM
3

Why would you want the attention of a woman who expects you to buy her things? It's fine to offer but never being expected to.
/r/seduction27/11/11 05:22 AM
6

What the fuck kind of bullshit did I just read?
/r/seduction22/11/11 03:07 PM
1

Subscribe to it.
/r/seduction21/11/11 06:56 AM
3

Girl on the very left is attractive to me, but I agree with fullplate that each of you has attractive qualities - not to mention you all look like fun - and it would pretty much come down to what a guy finds attractive.
/r/seduction19/11/11 03:12 AM
2

Of course, why wouldn't it? My advice assumes you are already talking and can both tell there is some form of interest / attraction before escalating it. Not to mention, I personally find half the girl in the second photo attractive and would totally go for it in a heartbeat. Not all guys desire "sexy supermodels"
/r/seduction19/11/11 01:19 AM
3

As a guy who is sexually frustrated with women's inability to properly communicate their desires, here is what I would love to happen. I'm at a bar, some attractive woman comes up, we talk for a while and clearly there is interest. She leans in and just straight up says, "I want to fuck, nothing else, just invite me over and I'm yours". Nothing is hotter than a woman being blunt with a man, we're simple creatures, we appreciate not having to constantly guess what a woman wants.
/r/seduction19/11/11 12:46 AM
1

Just go fucking do it you pussy I like your style
/r/seduction17/11/11 06:52 AM
1

Be outcome independaent and assume hiring. Come to think of it, I'm a natural at interviews...I need to apply this "I'm the man for the job" attitude towards women!
/r/seduction14/11/11 09:46 PM
3

True, but the first step towards being awesome is to break the belief that you are not, and that's where self pep-talk comes in handy.
/r/seduction20/10/11 11:08 PM
1

"Lots of guys love small boobs, big ones are just big floppy sacks of fat."
/r/seduction20/10/11 05:29 PM
1

People come here for help in seduction. That means you're going to get experience individuals making contributions to better understanding how to be seductive and you're also going to get people who have no idea what they are doing and come from a, shall we say, un-enlightened point of view. Both posts have value, from different perspectives. Down-voting is just going to give the impression to newbies that this is a place only for people who are established PUAs. So what if some guy is asking ho…
/r/seduction13/10/11 07:40 PM
5

While there may be some truth to this, I wouldn't suggest many people give it a go. Having gay friends, and knowing straight people who go to the gay bar on occasion to escape the obvious dudes trolling to pick-up, this advice almost seems insulting. My advice, if you have gay friends and want to hang out with them, then it's cool to go and give it a shot while you are there. Otherwise, it's in poor taste IMO
/r/seduction07/10/11 11:01 PM
16

The first date I had with the girl I'm currently with, I took her out to "people watch". It really works if you have an active imaination, you can create entire backstories as to why they are doing something or how they look.
/r/seduction01/10/11 09:38 PM
1

Succinct analogy, I'll have to remember that.
/r/seduction01/10/11 03:45 AM
2

The pieces of others that you dislike are the pieces of yourself you have rejected. If you become inflamed about one particular piece of someone else, it's more a statement about you than them. That's an interesting way to put it, I like that.
/r/seduction29/09/11 07:18 PM
28

While it has a good message for a particular point of view, I would largely disagree. Once you know yourself well enough, knowing what you dislike in other people is an important tool to living a happy life. I think the key - and what this message is getting at - is to not judge those things you dislike.
/r/seduction29/09/11 01:54 PM
3

I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say.
/r/seduction05/09/11 05:48 AM
2

The ability to recognize that while I enjoy going out and being social, I am very much drained by being around people and need a fair amount of time to recover and have my independence. Thankfully the woman I am seeing now is the same, so it works out incredibly well for the both of us!
/r/seduction05/09/11 12:44 AM
13

Who the fuck writes this shit? People are responsible for their own happiness, being with someone is about sharing good times together and having support, not fucking expecting someone to make you happy all the time. Basically, he suggest men should be spineless lapdogs.
/r/seduction21/08/11 07:05 PM
1

Need more details. Did you try to kiss her? Was she initiating everything? What's the context of the date, public place / intimate setting?
/r/seduction13/08/11 03:11 PM
7

I was at a bar, making out with some girl very much like what you are describing and we were interrupted by someone who came over to say something like, "now that's what I like to see! Two people so into each other that they just don't care, love it!" Do that next time, it'll make everyone's night that much better.
/r/seduction13/08/11 02:42 PM
2

I see your point of view, but if he starts practicing now while he is having these challenges, he might learn to overcome the limitations in how he presents himself. Just think of how much better he will be doing once his goals start to fall in place.
/r/seduction12/08/11 11:29 PM
2

Girl was into you, you did nothing so nothing happened. Don't worry about being trolled, even IF it happens (and in a scenario like that, it's slim), just play it off as a good joke, "ahh, you got me good!"
/r/seduction11/08/11 10:29 PM
1

I don't think another subreddit is necessary, just post it here.
/r/seduction10/08/11 01:44 PM
1

Easiest way you could start something would be to ask for fashion advice, most girls love that shit.
/r/seduction09/08/11 05:07 PM
1

You both want to have some fun and have talked about it, why not? Just be aware of the problems other people have outlined before making a decision.
/r/seduction04/08/11 07:34 PM
2

"Do you want to come to my house and watch cartoons and eat cereal?"
/r/seduction02/08/11 09:17 PM
5

Agreed, also just want to add that when initiating the physical meeting, in my experience, about 3:5 will not respond and 1:5 will want to keep "chatting" (which is almost certainly a waste of time). Don't take it personally, just move on until you find that other 1:5 who will meet you.
/r/seduction28/07/11 03:43 AM
1

Problem is it's just a temporary fix, going from one high to another. Very similar to drug abuse, they always just need that next fix so they can escape the world. It feels great in the moment, but it never works in the long run. I sincerely hope that one day she realizes that the only way to actually be happy is to face your fears / problems head on. Having been there myself years ago, I know full well how difficult that can be, but true happiness and peace comes from within, not without.
/r/seduction25/07/11 07:53 PM
2

Don't really want to turn this into a discussion about her, but suffice to say she tries to escape her personal problems by jumping from one guy to the next. So in a way you are correct. In the end, I don't really hold any resentment towards her, she can do whatever she wants. Just still a little frustrated I guess.
/r/seduction25/07/11 07:36 PM
6

I'm mostly venting here, but I definitely agree. I put way more effort into my latest relationship than she did. I was constantly putting up with bullshit, trying to help, trying to "make it work" while she continually disappointed me and lacked any substantial form of reciprocation. Only towards the end did I realize I had the blinders on and should have ended it earlier. Hell, a day after I ended it, she had a date with some new guy... despite saying she "loved" me while we were together. I'll…
/r/seduction25/07/11 05:45 PM
1

Honestly, that's the "hit the wall" point. First I'd try my best to talk with her, but I'm assuming the OP is past that point. :P
/r/seduction22/07/11 02:57 AM
1

Open new bank account in my own name, make all of my income payments go into it. Talk to wife and say you're being un-reasonable and not working with me, so here is the monthly budget for X, Y, and Z... probably followed by a divorce. (This is assuming I'm the sole provider of income of course, if shared, I'd offer up my fair share to cover these costs)
/r/seduction22/07/11 02:38 AM
2

I wish, but no. She gave me a good excuse (which turned out to be a lie) and I forgave her. Let's just say I learned the hard way that someone who does this in the beginning, will most likely continue to do so. Ah well, live and learn. Next time I'll be following much of the advice the others have been giving.
/r/seduction18/07/11 10:17 PM
2

If you go, do your routine at the front of the class (confidence + not being that "creepy dude in the back")
/r/seduction18/07/11 10:11 PM
2

Agreed. I once waited for about an hour and a half at a bus stop (we were supposed to meet there) in the middle of a winter snow-storm. At first I thought she might be running late so I'd be the hero and tough out the storm to wait for her. After the same bus went by three times, I realized she wasn't showing up. No calls, no texts, no nothing... fuck that pissed me off.
/r/seduction18/07/11 09:59 PM
32

Excellent point, and when this is happening she will almost certainly be giving you that "can you get this guy away from me?" look.
/r/seduction07/07/11 05:30 PM
3

Agreed, I'm male and I've had quite a few attractive, intelligent girls make conversation and hit on me at book stores. Shouldn't be too hard to reverse roles.
/r/seduction27/06/11 02:49 AM
1

Your points are valid, but from what I've noticed here, both the "want to get in your pants PUA" and "want to find a GF / relationship" are both accepted. This subreddit is about seduction, so you're going to find a gamut of advice and stories here. You simply need to take what is useful to you and ignore the rest.
/r/seduction24/04/11 03:12 PM
2

The only way I'd approve is if you can deliver the note with confidence. What I mean is write her a cute little note asking her out, but when you give it to her, maintain eye contact, smile and give the impression that you COULD ask her out verbally, but have chosen not to because this way is much more fun / cute. Also, stop giving a fuck what other people around you might think. So long as it's not wildly inappropriate (ie: at her grandmother's funeral), it's really not a big deal and you shoul…
/r/seduction23/03/11 02:53 AM
1

So long as your actions and behaviors in real life match the ones you write in your FR and you don't put anything that would identify either of you specifically, I can't possibly see what the problem would be. Stop letting someone else's potential reaction dictate your own actions. Isn't that part of being Alpha anyways?
/r/seduction23/03/11 02:45 AM
1

Damn, if you had posted this a few days ago I'd be up ten points... really nothing to complain about in retrospect
/r/seduction17/02/11 12:49 AM
2

Some really great advice on life in general, thanks for posting!
/r/seduction08/02/11 01:29 PM
1

Thank you for writing this... I sort of realized number 1 recently would give me better chances at success (I used to think this was morally wrong, not anymore), but it's nice to hear from an outside source to help solidify it in my mind.
/r/seduction28/01/11 06:21 PM
1

A friend of mine told me her philosophy on dating and it was simply, "Don't be a Pussy". Honestly, that was the most crude but accurate advice I've ever heard; just go out there, stop worrying, stop making a big deal out of things, and just fucking do it. I'm with you on this as well. I've spent far too many years doing the same thing as you, and now I'm just going to get out there and enjoy a normal life. Cheers!
/r/seduction25/01/11 05:58 PM
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