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probably not but never say never
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 07:48 PM
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correlation not necessarily causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:03 PM
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who is “they”? the vast majority of feminists i know do not hold those opinions. maybe a few hold the amber heard one, but as far as that one goes there’s a case to be made for both sides. she was 22 when she met him, and far more unknown. he was a 46 year old world famous superstar. we really weren’t there so we don’t know what happened. this parasocial relationship we have with celebrities might make us feel like we know a little more about them than we do, but depp had far more power to contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 12:56 PM
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i don’t think it misses the point. this persons ideal man exists, and she described what he was like. skipped a few of the questions for sure yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:45 AM
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well i mean, yeah, because that part is not true. so of course they’re going to disagree. that stuff is very attractive to me and many people i know. it’s not gonna carry your appeal with nothing else, but it definitely can be a factor. that’s literally kind of part of my type. i always date people who are known for how kind they are and those are the only ones ive managed to actually get emotionally attached to. not just in a practical manner with choosing- it genuinely gives me feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:08 AM
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yeah nobody is mad at those generalizations. that’s not what anyone here complains about. generalizing- maybe there’s one or two idk
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:59 PM
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nobody has a problem with saying women like attractive men with confidence and charisma. those traits can take many forms yes, and that’s exactly our point. I don’t think you’re wrong in making those claims. i think you’re just misunderstanding people’s general issue with the awalt term. women cheat with chad awalt. women all are after a looksmaxxed 6’+ billionaire. awalt. people are going way too far with it. plenty of women like guys a little chunky with blue collar jobs. they’re attractive to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:57 PM
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you’re missing a point of nuance about interpersonal dynamics. the function of telling a girl that about “groomers” is to get her to avoid them. the goal for a lot of men and women is to couple up into a relationship eventually, maybe even long term with some kids down the line. generalizing someone you’re meant to avoid in general is not the same as generalizing people who you’re potentially going to form deep complex bonds with. Long term, getting too invested in the AWALT generalization is ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:42 PM
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I’ve never been ghosted after. They try to lock down a relationship. But i think a lot of that is coming across as very secure. the balance never tips in the opposite direction. I’m sure attractive fun women get ghosted all of the time, but for a lot of those it’s probably the men assuming they’re going to come out on top and the women will want to keep talking to them. Maybe this is just having a big ego but I think people are just as drawn to my personality as looks because of a few outlier ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:59 PM
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Exactly. They go to the extreme and turn general guidelines into black and white rules. Just because becoming more fit will help your chances with a larger pool of women, doesn’t mean the fat guy never has a shot at anyone. The fat guy with a good personality might even have a shot at someone considered way out of their league. it’s a numbers game of increasing your chances but it’s not able to be a perfect system because there are far too many variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:51 PM
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This “observation” is often really more of an assumption. i’ve seen it play out many times before. people will assume the thing that feeds their ego. it’s definitely a different story if people are actually acting like they’re falling in love or something, but you can’t really act like that long term without bringing up becoming official eventually, because that’s part of “acting like it”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:46 PM
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they can be- often it’s the first and when they find out it’s not true they act like it’s the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:43 PM
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You don’t know for sure- it doesn’t always happen the way described. some men don’t care, and aren’t asking for exclusivity because they simply don’t want it. In a game theory sense, the option with the highest likelihood for everyone to be happy is to take what they say at face value. If they’re not acting like they want exclusivity, don’t assume they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:16 PM
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there are definitely more possibilities than this lol. There’s a tale as old as time that could explain this too. Guy meets girl and doesn’t know if he wants to commit- would like at least the OPTION of getting with other people even if he’s not actively choosing to. Thinks she’s all about him and then his ego is hurt when she’s not. I’ve known many guys like this, including some of my friends. They f around and find out and usually learn from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:12 PM
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yeah- better to be safe than sorry. that’s the best route to protect yourself. and if you want to have the conversation just have it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:08 PM
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um. we’re talking about what demographic takes rape seriously or not, not who rapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:00 AM
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uhhh first of all i don’t think the two things are equivalent, but beside that, duh? rape is bad. a lot of the people who don’t see it the same are men who make minimizing jokes about other men who are victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:58 AM
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It can decrease intimacy with your partner. it’s not a huge deal for everyone but i see why people care
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 05:02 PM
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how? i’m not saying it’s the same thing lol i’m demonstrating a principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:48 PM
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for sex? sure. and 21 is not really what i meant. i’m really talking about the still teens with no life experience with much older partners. we’re talking about relationships too, not just sex. i didn’t go by the 21-25 example bc that’s kinda ridiculous. i’ve literally been in that age gap relationship lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:43 PM
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no? and there’s nothing indicating that i am. it was an extreme example meant to demonstrate the principle. men having extremely low standards doesn’t eliminate them from blame of who they choose if there are issues with it. early adults aren’t as exploited as actual children, but there are still unfair dynamics that can harm them. (not for 21-25, that’s not even a big deal) the age of adulthood is somewhat arbitrary and based on a lot of people’s best guess a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:57 PM
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Contrary to popular belief, men choose too. just because a lot of men would choose more people doesn’t mean they’re not choosing. i’m not saying this is the same severity AT all, but what if the only females who choose an adult man are twelve years old? is it still not his fault? you’re acting as if men have no agency and women just take them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:25 AM
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u sure you’re blue pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:21 PM
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no, it’s not. im not friends with many rich people lol. the biggest secret weapon a lot of these guys have is amazing social skills
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:37 PM
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emotional dumping is emotional dumping. it’s not hard to understand. i don’t often have emotional conversations with my friends. i have few complaints about my life and i keep them in my head
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:49 PM
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how much are you willing to bet? because you’re going to lose- as i’ve already communicated to you, some of my biggest emotional dumpers are males, including the very biggest one. you just aren’t friends with guys who do this so you’re biased. i’m not really an emotional dumper tbh. i keep my feelings to myself most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:17 PM
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nope, and i say this as an attractive high self esteem woman. size is on the lower list of criteria for most of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:36 PM
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i personally know a few fat bald broke guys who have no problem getting women because they’re funny. yes, if you have zero desirable traits to a woman she won’t like you(duh), but people underestimate the power of some secret weapons that make the other stuff matter less.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:34 PM
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uhhh this is like, the exact opposite from my experience. women online from what i’ve seen care about height, irl don’t. i know a bunch of girls who dated guys near their height or even a little shorter. my friend is five ten dating a five four guy. granted, this one is more of a leap- online she might have said a little different about her preference, but in reality the preference doesn’t hold as much weight when you actually meet someone with other good traits. online i see women dating men mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:30 PM
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just as in synonym for “only” as in criteria that is not hard to meet in a general population. he’s not saying you specifically have to grow. he’s saying any given person isn’t too unlikely to meet that criteria, because it’s slightly above average lol. picking apart the language here was so silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:58 PM
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“paying for the date means nothing, men do that for themselves!!” you’ve become so accustomed to the societal standard of women getting dolled up that you see it as the standard. it’s still putting effort into the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:50 PM
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you sound like someone who has not felt the touch of a woman. feminism isn’t being pushed without some other tradeoffs. women DO pay much more often now. i think you really just don’t have enough exposure to women and you’re caught up in the media idea. there are so many women out there who aren’t like you described. my bf would read this post and laugh at how untrue a lot of it is. there are some women who are the way you described but not the majority. you sound like you don’t have female frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:47 PM
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as a woman i’ll tell you- i have firsthand experience and men do this plentyyy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:59 AM
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thats really not true for a LOT of men. part of this problem is most men aren’t interested in initiating conversations with women they aren’t attracted to. a lot of male female friendships started with a crush on the males part. a lot of men aren’t really interested in being friends with women from the start, so for a lot of men friendship only happens that way. i’m not saying you’re like that, but that large group of men who only show interest in women for one thing is kinda skewing the data he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:57 AM
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i really think you just have only one specific type of male friend lol, because part of what you said is so not true. i’ve had male friends who talk about their feelings and problems, and male friends who don’t. i’ve had female friends who don’t and some who do. this isn’t an entirely gendered thing. in fact some of my friends who “use me as an emotional dumping ground” most are men, and i’m a woman. i don’t mind it- most don’t do it excessively and i like to give problem solving advice so it ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:50 AM
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for me shape is more important than size. i like lean and toned, and then buff, but probably not to the bodybuilder extreme. i like good pecs- not even necessarily big ones. the slightest definition in pecs is enough for me. i basically just like a certain build that can be expressed at different sizes, bc my current bf is pretty skinny but he has a bit of definition and the body shape i like so he looks amazing to me. but, ive also dated people who looked nothing like this. i do care about look…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:16 PM
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societal conditioning. men are very conditioned from a young age to see women as a separate group with “boring” vapid and girly interests. men are also conditioned to not take part in these “worthless” interests themselves. the concoction of circumstance simultaneously boxes men into “masculine” pursuits while they mentally box women into feminine ones based on their perception of things. think of characters in movies- the female ones are more often poorly written or written in very specific way…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:35 AM
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lmaoo yeah it really doesn’t matter. my cousin used to be the same about guys ages. she wanted more mature but she ended up getting with guys who took advantage. older does notttt mean more mature. my ex who was four years older was not significantly more mature by any means. i feel like getting with older guys just makes it HARDER to tell if they’re mature. they may carry themselves differently or be further along in life, which can create the illusion of maturity even if it’s not there. i’m wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 05:27 PM
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yeahh i get it. it’s a common trap to fall into. one of the most mature people i dated was over two years younger than me. it can really vary a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 04:11 PM
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why not even a year younger than you? you could have been in the same grade in school and just had birthdays a few months apart
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 08:12 AM
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no it’s okay if they’re ugly to me. i’m just going to say no lol. doesn’t make it not okay- they didn’t know if i’d find them ugly it was worth a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 10:25 PM
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I think the double standard exists because there are different consequences to each. a man lasting two seconds prevents the woman from finishing from the act. a woman NOT finishing doesn’t really mean the man is going to be impeded.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 10:19 PM
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poor dude looked like he was gonna cry when it happened and then got red in the face and started stuttering when i tried to talk to him after at school 😭 so yeah, its not that i worry abt regulating my emotions. i just know anything can happen and i like to gently fan the flame and tend to it before throwing a bunch more wood on top when its someone i really like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:39 AM
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the orgasm gap remains in the newer generation. your post doesn’t even imply that men care about it by what you’ve described about their arousal. getting sexually stimulated by someone’s body parts does NOT equal caring about their pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:31 AM
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u clearly don’t have enough experience to understand. a wide array of things can happen and it can be nerve wracking for either party- especially if they like each other. i had an awkward experience with someone one time. he really liked me, then we did it and it was awkward. it was awkward even talking after that, and without getting graphic it was definitely him that made it awkward. not his fault, but it happens. sometimes uhhhh people get too excited. if i liked him more i would have been sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:23 AM
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then what’s with the stats on the orgasm gap? why do men finish more often than women? sex has ALWAYS been primarily focused on the males enjoyment in our culture. the goal is to finish. your argument really doesn’t make much sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:16 AM
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the body is not the person- in the sense that wanting to touch someone’s body for your own pleasure has nothing to do with their enjoyment or caring for them. focusing on something else does not mean you’re not being selfish. wanting a dog to come up to you and be happy to see you is not more selfish than wanting to pet the dog only because you like the feeling of its fur.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:13 AM
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you realize that in being desired and giving yourself to the person that’s desiring you, you’re giving that person pleasure. plenty of men do not care if their partner finished or even enjoys it. who finishes more often during intercourse? if the man’s goal was pleasing the woman the orgasm gap would be a lot smaller. the man’s goal is to finish.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:41 AM
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this is really not true. i’m a woman. someone wanting us can be part of the experience sure, but i’ve never heard of a woman who didn’t ever have at least some physical component to her attraction even if this was true, selfish? i don’t really see how that would be selfish. i don’t think you’re using the right word. it’s more selfish to be turned on by someone’s thoughts and feelings being focused on you than by components of physical flesh? at least in the first scenario you’re motivated by a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:37 AM
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they do though. i’ve seen it plenty, and im NOT redpill by ANY means. but ive gotta be honest. yeah sure they say it less than they talk about women in this way, but their whole thing is kind of trying to teach people to navigate women, albeit in ways i don’t agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 11:58 PM
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I can’t say the same now, but in the past, i’ve been a little discouraged when it seems like people aren’t actually trying to learn about my thought patterns and internal dialogue, or just things about me in general. these people could be the most attached and obsessed with me in the world, and they just don’t always think to ask things. i don’t always face that issue though- ive had multiple people prove it wrong as a generalization. i also often faced very significant personality differences. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:55 PM
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not by most people. the double standard is what generally bothers people. i only take issue when it’s a man who has slept with like a million people thinking it’s gross for a woman to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:19 PM
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it’s not about regulating emotions though. often it’s about wanting to build anticipation and give them a really good first time. sometimes people don’t want to risk an awkward first encounter super early on with someone they like. so many possible reasons. coffee shop guy is gonna get some bomb ass head she would never dream of giving the other one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 08:42 PM
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so there’s something wrong with letting the chemistry bubble over a bit for a more fireworks first experience? my bf knows i got with guys earlier than him. he doesn’t care. he gets special privileges anyway none of them got to do the things ive let him do. we enjoyed each others company it’s not like i made him sit and stare at the corner before we did it lol. we were having fun talking about philosophy and our interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 08:39 PM
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sometimes people have self control. i wanted to get with my current bf so bad the first day i officially met and talked to him but i had restraint. im a feeling being but i operate under some degree of logic so theres no situation where i just won’t be able to help myself. i obsessed over him for days and days until we finally did it. he was SO attractive to me and still is. i think he’s the most beautiful thing ive ever seen. i thought the same years before i officially met him when he was at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 08:37 PM
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too much of a generalization. i’ve had men make me wait for sex. i’ve had men i was having sex with really try hard to reel me into a relationship, much to my dismay. this isn’t as simple as an economic exchange. it’s a mutual thing and we’re not different species.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 08:22 PM
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tbh as a woman this isn’t even my experience either. i’ve had men make ME wait and i know this isn’t everyone’s experience but it just goes to show there are so many different situations and this topic shouldn’t be generalized so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 08:20 PM
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i kinda feel like your three reasons are pretty much the same thing in different words, but i also disagree with them. there can be a wide variety of reasons. i can speak to my personal experience when i say that i have waited longer with guys i am MORE physically and emotionally attracted to, only because i wanted to increase anticipation and make the final moment when we do it more rewarding. these are the people ive been with that i am MOST viscerally attracted to. I wanted to be with them lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 08:18 PM
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not really. the women who are attracted enough to those guys to actually pursue them honestly aren’t very smart. there’s a large percentage of women who wouldn’t even go near violent people like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 08:04 PM
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Personally i do not think these people are exciting, unless the crime is like a super cool one that involves a high degree of intelligence like a heist. that could potentially be badass i guess, but if it involves hurting people or something i’m not going to be a fan, nor will most women i know. senseless violence is unattractive to me, and speaks to negative behavioral patterns that make them seem unsuitable as a partner. unintelligent people will be unintelligent, and perhaps you’ve just gotte…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 08:02 PM
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Of course. everything i can think of- in terms of physical assault for example, i don’t think women should get leeway. if two people are fighting i do think if one is much weaker and smaller, maybe they should get some sympathy if the other person full on decks them, and yeah that’ll often be women, but if a woman and man of about equal fighting capacity are having a brawl there’s no reason we should just protect the “poor woman”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 07:55 PM
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I think i’m considered very attractive, and so far the most i’ve gotten is dms from people who i’ve never heard of, but are “verified” on instagram. not normally with that many followers either. there was some soccer player id never heard of with like 50k followers. i don’t think he’s rich or anything though he was just in the area he wasn’t going to fly me out or anything
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:23 AM
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these are usually not the more attractive ones though. often you can find a 30+ women who’s more attractive than the young ones who want to date older- a lot of them have issues anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:00 PM
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it really depends on a few things, if it’s less casual and you’re the one asking me, framing it as though you’re “taking me out” it would be kind of weird if you didn’t at least offer to pay. that being said i had a situation like that happen to me, and i was mostly just a bit incredulous. i was just thinking hahaha wtf, and then we proceeded to date for years. but if i was super on the fence about him maybe it could have been the straw that broke the camels back. it was just strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:25 PM
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these are terrible curvy examples they obviously have surgery
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 02:43 AM
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it’s kinda ironic u said that on a post where the “curvy” ones clearly got surgery. there’s different evolutionary reasons to prefer both types. we can assume the links are there for these reasons but we don’t really know what the EXACT roots of everything are.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 02:42 AM
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does “curvy” mean surgery? idk how i feel abt the fact that most of the “curvy” ones are women who just had surgery for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:55 PM
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are u really saying this in response to me? or the other person. because i’m not the one who’s acting like it could never happen. i’m the one who’s arguing that it can happen BOTH ways unlike what the other person seems to think. logically it seems more likely that you’re agreeing with me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:13 PM
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nah that’s not really the main parts of the stereotype
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:36 PM
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self improvement can do a lot lol. i’ve seen pictures of some guys before they started working out and it’s like an entirely different person.
/r/AllPillDebate08/07/23 12:44 AM
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it’s not that we think it can’t happen. it’s the way the story was told. it was the redditors only post, only comments, and he said it made him feel a “strange new kind of anger”. seemed very much like it had hallmarks of one of those socially awkward guys trying to tell a fake story. the story itself isn’t that unbelievable, but the majority of time when i’ve seen things like this happen, there’s not really any anger and the person doesn’t care that much. for me, when i’ve grown to be “above” t…
/r/AllPillDebate08/07/23 12:43 AM
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well i’ve had multiple cry in my arms tbh. most recent one has done it the most and i’m still with him. something about the vulnerability feels really special so idk how someone can experience that and it just makes them like the person less.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 12:17 AM
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you have given evidence that you are FORCING to fit your agenda but doesn’t actually inform it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:39 PM
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that it’s “no less dangerous” still dangerous but definitely less
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 08:39 PM
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are you serious? what about the study is informative of what someone’s girlfriend would do if they opened up to them and cried? nothing. its not realistic to actually conclude anything about what we’re talking about from the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:38 PM
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i’m not in a bubble lmfao. but you’re not providing me with actual evidence, so at the very least anecdotal is better than the nothing you’re giving me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:37 PM
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i know a bunch of people who this isn’t the case for, and it’s actually the opposite for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:45 PM
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read the actual parameters of the study. it’s not even actually about emotion. it’s about responsiveness and it’s a first impression. it’s really not good proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:44 PM
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read the actual parameters of the study. it’s not even actually about emotion. it’s about responsiveness and it’s a first impression. it’s really not good proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:44 PM
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I’m the one who initially brought these scenarios to light, and then YOU misrepresented my argument by acting like i was just talking about “not showing feelings the right way”. that’s so funny you’re accusing me of doing the straw manning. you were the one who misrepresented MY argument. where’s your source for the “most” stat?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:40 PM
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I’m the one who initially brought these scenarios to light, and then YOU misrepresented my argument by acting like i was just talking about “not showing feelings the right way”. that’s so funny you’re accusing me of doing the straw manning. you were the one who misrepresented MY argument. where’s your source for the “most” stat?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:40 PM
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and this is relevant how??? some people are insane and we can’t pinpoint some unified theory that tells us what makes them tick. i don’t know what you’re talking about but it’s not what i’m saying.
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 07:21 PM
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there’s no bending over backwards LMFAO. punching walls and pouring your heart out on the first date is weird. end of story. i’m literally agreeing there are some women who suck and aren’t okay with men opening up, but a lot of these stories are some of the former
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:20 PM
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okay, where’s your proof of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:19 PM
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yeah, you are. thanks for realizing it. because you’re saying she will “definetly” (definitely) leave. even one counter example proves it’s not definite. plus i have multiple friends who could say the same
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:18 PM
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look at statistics. it’s so easy to see that’s not true
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 07:16 PM
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it’s ridiculous that people want to use some unified theory to explain every single action of every single person. we have general guidelines of social behavior sure, and we have unified theories to explain physical phenomena, but physics is the most fundamental science. biological systems are much too complex for us to develop a theory that would explain the actions of every single person, and be able to comprehend the crazy calculations it would require to actually understand it. some people a…
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 06:02 PM
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it’s not the same lol. it’s still a huge problem but men aren’t going to angrily retaliate upon finding out you’re a cis woman.
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 05:53 PM
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nah they have ppl who might beat their ass for existing. this list is a little off
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 05:30 PM
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that’s not all we’re talking about. some comments are very vague in what they’ve heard about from other guys they know. yes, it’s a thing in relationships too, and some women suck in this way. But, i’ve also heard these stories from guys and then when i asked for more details or was clear the problem was not being vulnerable itself, but the circumstances surrounding it. being not accustomed to being vulnerable it’s definitely common for guys to not know what a normal way to go about it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:20 PM
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yep. autistic men don’t follow the same social patterns we’re used to, so in a way they feel less predictable- even if there’s no real basis for it. it definitely impacts the women too, but autistic women tend to be better at masking anyway
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 05:10 PM
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oh yeah definitely. so many ppl here bc they’re struggling w things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:52 PM
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didn’t get a modern enough one then i guess. i know multiple who wouldn’t do that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:51 PM
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you’re just wrong. ive had someone cry in my arms. it felt like i was holding the entire world and he was all that mattered. i had never loved him more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:48 PM
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really not sure you are
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:46 PM
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guys will say they’ve been burnt by being vulnerable but some of these guys are socially inept and are talking about getting way too personal on the first date, or just super early on like way earlier than normal. sometimes it’s even just them getting emotional about wanting their way about something that’s not serious at all. it realllly depends on the situation. i’m not saying all women are just fine with it, but most women i know crave that level of emotional intimacy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:44 PM
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how are women not going to understand their problems? women have a lot of the same problems. we all have human struggles. if i’m with a man who can’t show me that side of himself, i’m never going to become fully attached to him. it’s quite the opposite of what you’re saying for a lot of people actually
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:35 PM
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and i think someone should give me a million dollars
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:42 PM
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wow how noble! come on man, idk if you have but if you’ve been around subs like this enough, you’d know there’s so many men trying to exist in an echo chamber. it’s not a woman thing, and it’s not a competition where men should “set an example”. those who believe in the sanctity of an uncensored debate are setting an example for those who don’t. saying anything else would be less accurate and just serve to alienate people who agree with you on other points because of the disrespect you’re showin…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:31 PM
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“whenever we men set up a space for us.” LMFAO. AllPillDebate??? really?? this is a debate sub are you seriously trying to say it should be an echo chamber and only include one side of the debate? what happened to uncensored discussion. dumbest post i’ve seen today
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:26 PM
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maybe she has specific standards. if you fit those it could work out for your benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:49 PM
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i mean if he cheated that doesn’t really speak well of him i don’t know if i would say he was out of peoples league just based on that but i get what you’re saying. basically just yeah, you can’t use sex to make shitty people who don’t already like you like you. some people just don’t know that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:44 PM
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she could have been the one to dump them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:04 PM
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yep- the reason for being a slut matters. they can be relatively well adjusted people. they’re not all riddled with issues
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:03 PM
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it’s not that i have gripes with the core ideologies of blackpill itself per se, i understand everything we do ties back to the process of natural selection. it’s the conclusions you’re coming to are not thoroughly supported by evidence. sample sizes need to be sufficient, there needs to be only one testable variable, results must be replicated over and over, etc. it’s extremely hard to accurately test these social dynamics. not to mention the fact that in order to discern if certain things are …
/r/AllPillDebate21/05/23 11:11 PM
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the blackpill, at least in the terms you’ve described, is NOT science. some of its ideas are loosely based on scientific theories- extrapolations and suppositions that SEEM logical to proponents, but a seemingly logical supposition is NOT to be mistaken for fact. bp has used evolutionary biology to further their aims, but most bp people are NOT well versed enough even in the scientific method to know that these claims wouldn’t be given scientific significance, let alone being well-versed enough …
/r/AllPillDebate21/05/23 09:56 PM
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you can’t just say this lmfao. if you can, then i can say all men are evil pigs with nothing to support my case. it’s an “inherent reality” right learn about the scientific method- you’re not doing yourself any favors and even other black pillers here are probably seriously questioning your iq
/r/AllPillDebate21/05/23 06:57 PM
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what are you TALKING about. you can’t prove AWALT any more than i can prove AMALT in this case. what are you talking about a causation??? we’re not saying looks have anything to do with your personality so what’s this analogy for tf
/r/AllPillDebate21/05/23 06:55 PM
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so… not sex by itself. yeah, exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:53 PM
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not sure why you had to make the distinction of talking about yourself. besides my using of a pretty general “you”, i’m sure it probably applies to you as well. and what exactly do you mean by “sexuality”? wouldn’t intimacy just be a better word then
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:07 PM
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the only difference between sex and rubbing one out yourself is the other person. it’s the intimacy of it that you crave so bad, and that’s not different for men or women. it leaves a hole for both. some people can just handle that hole better
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:56 PM
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pure speculation. no actual evidence.
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 11:35 PM
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i think i know what you’re trying to say but you’re wording it so poorly. nobody’s body is more or less sexual than another persons lmao. without the outside perspective, a body is just a body. what makes a body “sexual”???? sexualization is based on the interpreter- you’re the one making the connection to sexuality in your mind. step outside of your limited perspective. clearly you’re a man, and you’re attracted to women. YOUR experience doesn’t mean mens bodies aren’t “sexual”. they just don’t…
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 08:29 PM
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first of all, tl;dr is meant to be a summary lol. shouldn’t introduce new information in it. and yeah, duh, some women are fucked people who would get with a child molester. you think there wouldn’t be PLENTY of men who swiped on a woman child molester? come on. this says nothing about women in general. i could just as soon pull up some articles about guys raping people and pretend that it means all men are rapists. generally, people select based off of looks on tinder because you can’t really T…
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 08:23 PM
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she definitely has no idea she’s not even on the table for anything long term. it’s dishonest and misleading.
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 05:47 PM
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they might prefer the slightly below “healthy” weight a little bit more, but they’re not shutting out the healthy weight people. they just don’t like the way more than healthy weight people. depending on your age, it makes sense to some degree. we tend to pack on the pounds as we age so the thinner ones i guess have more wiggle room to stay healthy later
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:48 PM
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lmaooo did you not notice my intentional “specific” error
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 02:22 PM
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eh i’d say a lot of mid women do this, but there’s a specific brand of delusional very ugly man who thinks he’s attractive. not saying the ugly women don’t do this, some do, but the very ugly women are often very insecure and aware how unattractive they are
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:16 PM
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what’s pacifically wrong with people over five ten
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 02:03 PM
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aw come on man. don’t lie to her. and maybe make your standards a little less strict or else you might end up miserable. are there any exceptions for feeling like you’ve met the “love of your life” or are you gonna remain steadfast no matter how great a girl is
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 02:02 PM
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yeah he’s one of the two at LEAST and i’m guessing the socially awkward one is pretty likely bc of his likely disconnect w reality
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:41 PM
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and what of his benefit of the doubt for me? his point isn’t completely buried no, but said point is out of place in this conversation. his mistake has led him on a tangent that will only serve to dilute the actual initial topic of discussion. he was applying something to my rebuttal that is not applicable. i’m merely correcting him. without doing such, the focus shifts away from what i was talking about. it’s a misrepresentation and i wanted it made very clear. i think it makes more sense to ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:11 PM
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you seem to want to convince yourself you’re attractive and smooth, but i don’t buy it tbh. not saying you’re ugly or horribly socially awkward, but guys who are attractive ENOUGH and smooth ENOUGH have no problems- they also don’t bother with subs like this unless they just have an interest in dating dynamics. hot people with charisma don’t have these kinds of problems
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:34 PM
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i think you’re underestimating women’s desire for sex. men do have sex appeal, but a lot of men having low enough standards that they would have sex with just about any woman, even if they don’t really care that much to. women have an abundance mindset because of this. if men just collectively decided to have a bit higher standards, or we stopped pushing purity culture on women so much, things would be more equal.
/r/AllPillDebate19/05/23 05:25 PM
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did i say all? i must be crazy because i didn’t think i said all. i was speaking in general terms, just like you speaking about whoever was creating this hostile environment for men. i know there’s a variety of people in this sub, and as i didn’t specify all, i would assume you can read between the lines. the sub has things to say about women AND men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 01:48 PM
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come on man. think about what this sub has had to say about women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:41 PM
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yeah dude save yourself while you can- embrace the fact that this world isn’t so black and white.
/r/AllPillDebate19/05/23 12:35 PM
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not the women i’m talking about, though it’s true for some. and definitely sad
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:32 PM
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these aren’t the women i’m talking about then. i’m talking about women who have had healthy growth throughout their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:32 PM
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the “can’t get women their own age” is a bit misleading to what they usually mean. All the good respectable women their own age have figured out not to put up with being treated by shit at that point. there are definitely some men who are able to put on a nice facade that works better on young women than ones who have been around the block a few times. they can probably get respectable women their own age for a time, but they’re able to keep around young women and older ones with self esteem iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:27 AM
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hard to say. it’s still definitely less safe than ideal, but as least you’re not putting gross stuff in your own mouth lol. plus if someone has bad dental health you can often at least sorta tell
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:53 PM
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well i’m not really pushing for anal without protection either because it increases micro tears and gives more of a chance of an std. condoms are pretty common place, but i haven’t really heard of someone pulling out a dental damn or giving head with the condom on for a sexual encounter. i’m sure it happens though. but yeah you don’t know where people have been or how well they clean themselves and humans have a natural aversion to putting gross shit in their mouth. i’d rather get old vagina che…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 01:12 PM
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not sure i would say i “believe in redpill” considering how much of it has been taken over by ridiculous people, but i recognize that the self improvement parts can be of use. but, a lot of the “good parts” of redpill aren’t necessarily disagreed on by other ideologies. redpill acronyms like AWALT are harmful generalizations, used because a lot of these people just can’t conceptualize a strategy when there’s so much variation out there. Like yes, women tend to prefer a better body, that’s why yo…
/r/AllPillDebate18/05/23 01:08 PM
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because of hygiene/stds yeah. you’ve got no idea how people take care of themselves and something about putting nasty stuff in your mouth seems worse than anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 12:45 PM
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the “would even do it for casual sex partners” is getting to me no matter what lmao. i just don’t understand people putting the privates of a person you just met in your mouth, unless i guess he used a dental dam. idk aside from that it would probably depend on the reason why he no longer does it but used to. maybe there’s some crazy outlier reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 02:22 AM
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for some people it’s more about avoiding negative attention. as someone who has had some pretty ugly phases in life, makeup and clothes are often probably subconsciously influenced by me wanting to avoid being made fun of. so i think it’s a bit more nuanced than you think, even if we bring subconscious into it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 02:15 AM
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i see your point but the numbers you’re using as examples don’t like even work as counter examples
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 01:06 AM
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the wall is scare tactics and copium. its meant to make women feel like they’re running out of time, and make some men feel better thinking the young women who can do what they want are one day going to “get what they deserve” the wall is supposed to be a self apparent thing, a time where women become much less desirable. you still desire her don’t you? one of the most ridiculous things i’ve heard today. you’re really unsure if a woman has hit the wall when the point is that it’s obvious lmaoo. …
/r/AllPillDebate17/05/23 02:26 PM
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it’s a music video of course they’re gonna do that. it doesn’t have enough time to show the guys personality anyway and they want him to be appealing. look at dating trends irl
/r/AllPillDebate17/05/23 12:51 PM
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i feel the opposite. i look at the stats on people leaving their ill partners and it paints a sad picture- men leave their wives with cancer at frighteningly higher rates. in fact when a woman gets cancer part of the process usually involves medical staff trying to prepare her for it. there is no such protocol for men who become ill. and then there’s the fact that men, according to this sub at least, are very “visual creatures” and that attraction is focused on twenty year olds. even the way wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:49 PM
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as another woman, who knows many of their opinions on this, and more importantly someone who knows the stats, she’s right lmfao we do not want these old ass men. most of my friends don’t even want a guy to be older. just our age
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:30 PM
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i don’t think it’s shameful. i probably wouldn’t, but that’s only because with our social norms, if a guy hasn’t already done it, he’s probably not ready. if i know the person i’m with is like really unaffected by gendered norms like this one i might think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:04 AM
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it can be the thing that pushes a guy over the threshold of being attractive to a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:56 AM
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we don’t care if you have sex. good for you that’s awesome. if you don’t care about more than sex, cool, then it’s not gonna affect you negatively. for most of us it’s not some game where we care about punishing you lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:05 AM
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no, it doesn’t prove it. at least not in the way you’re thinking. There are plenty of ugly guys who ARENT incels, so it’s pretty apparent it’s not just about looks. The fact is, we’re a social species, and some of these guys are incels because of their horribly off-putting lack of social skills, extreme opinions that invalidate women, or a mixture of both. social skills can be improved, but for some people it may take a lot of work or even outside help. average looking guys being incels says not…
/r/AllPillDebate13/05/23 05:20 PM
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yeah multiple other comments are suddenly tryna act like men don’t do that when you see people here say they do all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:20 PM
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i thought you meant like pirates
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 07:32 PM
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because it’s not a random sample. the women likely to post in there are the ones who often have reason to be suspicious of their partner? it makes it seem more common than it is
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 06:16 PM
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no, for some women maybe, but often it’s just a decent guy who has at least some interesting characteristics and is good to them. i’ve been around a lot of my female friends boyfriends, and their bar is honestly a little too low sometimes- letting a pretty ugly guy with nothing going for him treat them badly while they worship him. the couple guys in particular that come to mind are nowhere near chads. they just were nice and funny enough in the beginning to get their foot in the door
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:33 AM
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non top men will date a woman who isn’t his ideal level of attractive because they’re desperate, that’s true. a lot of them do want a relationship. that doesn’t mean there aren’t still plenty of women out there who they would smash but NOT date. to deny that most men’s standards for hookups is lower than relationships would be a little ridiculous, as it’s a pretty well known thing in our society. just because a man wants a relationship, doesn’t mean he wants it with that particular woman. if thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 11:23 PM
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bro i think you need to re-read my comment because this has nothing to do with what i said. i’m basically saying these guys only want sex nothing more and are using dates as a way to just get that. a lot of people want a relationship, not just sex. but the ugly girls often have to deal with guys who only want the sex and pretend they’ll be open to more. idk how what you said is related to my points
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 10:59 PM
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the analogy does not fall apart- i’m assuming no such thing. within the guys who are worth dating are a much smaller pool of guys who actually WANTS to date the girl. when a girl is ugly this subdivision is VERY small. my entire point is that a lot of these guys aren’t even looking to date the girl, and maybe even not meet up with her- a LOT of guys will swipe right on pretty much everyone, shooting in the dark until they see who matches with them and THEN making more decisions after they see th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 10:56 PM
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i’m sure some are genuine. but the bigger the haystack the harder to find the needle. plus there are all those pieces of hay pretending to be needles makes it an even more difficult process. would be a great analogy if not for that part lol. you get the gist
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 09:52 PM
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yeah they’re not going to say the sexual stuff until they can arrange the meeting. doesn’t really prove anything. and the odds are it was much more than half
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 09:16 PM
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not correct. you’d be fine with getting violated by a big guy every day right? it doesn’t change the status quo right?
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 04:55 PM
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sex is a luxury. not everyone is guaranteed to have it. sure it’s good for you and it’s a big desire for a lot of people, but you can live a fulfilling life without it. getting raped is much more mentally draining- it’s not a luxury to not get raped, in our society it’s supposed to be a basic human right of autonomy
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 04:54 PM
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rape is an active thing. celibacy is the absence of something happening. it’s nowhere near as traumatic. your agency is not taken from you the same way. someone not giving you something you want is not the same thing as someone forcing upon you something you desperately don’t want.
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 04:51 PM
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so you might as well take it up the ass from some huge guy every day right? it’s the same thing anyway. do you have a preference between them? you don’t right?
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 04:48 PM
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they want to take her out because they know people respond weirdly when they’re just offering up sex. very likely most of these guys would just hit it and quit it bc that’s j how dating apps work- and other matches probably wouldn’t even respond to “her”. guys are more likely to go on right swipe anthems
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:31 PM
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idk i’ve seen her delete plenty of bp content- maybe she has a different way of doing things now but i feel like she used to be a good mod
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 02:33 PM
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well i wouldn’t go this far- women still fall for ugly guys they just no longer have to put up with the ugly guys they DONT fall for if there’s nobody else around. you really don’t have to be a chad to get a girl.
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 02:15 PM
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maybe the halo effect makes people perceive beautiful women as nicer. you may view the same interactions through a different lens subconsciously. uglier women are probably used to being treated harshly by men as well
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 01:51 PM
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a lot of black people in the united states are part white and that’s often where they get the neanderthal from, but there are still black people straight from africa that have none
/r/AllPillDebate24/04/23 01:31 PM
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except it’s not up to you to determine if you’re “qualified” to date these women. it’s not a job anyway. i understand the analogy but feelings aren’t so simple. they can’t force themselves to have feelings
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 01:55 PM
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youre spelling incentive in increasingly wrong ways lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:07 PM
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funny- i see the opposite.
/r/AllPillDebate21/04/23 09:44 PM
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i guess not to you. but, seeing as how this is the case, you should probably hold judgement until you have some actual experience with them, because many people describe their relationships as fulfilling experiences
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 05:13 PM
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i’ve seen it many times. have you never been in a caring relationship?
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 01:39 PM
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why is it women are abused by their partners? they’re with the wrong partners that’s why. same goes for what you’re saying. there are so many women out there who are honored to see the softer side of their significant other, and attempt to handle it with care. it even often brings out some instinctive caring behaviors in them.
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 12:47 AM
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can i see your sources? because no, these studies were based on only ONE variable, their attractiveness
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 10:25 PM
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we don’t? if you’re a woman and the “strong independent woman” lifestyle isn’t for you, that’s perfectly okay. it’s okay to show weakness and it’s also okay not to. the point is to give people options
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 03:56 PM
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it’s not a contradiction at all. for years women have been expected to be weak and dependent, while men have been expected to be strong. with feminism it’s okay to do the unexpected. men are allowed to show weakness, and women are allowed to be strong
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 01:47 PM
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nah i know so many women who are into what they call “dad bods” (though i think their definition veers on the bit of the heavy side.) women’s preferences vary too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:35 PM
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oh yes, a lot of physical traits can make it pretty hard, but many are still not unable to be saved by other traits. The funny fat guy still somehow pulls. physical attractiveness is huge, but do i think a lot of people take the whole hypergamy based on wealth aspect a little too far. i think the core trends aligning with the majority is a possibility but what do we count as the “majority” group? it could be 30% of women respond well to a single aspect of rp, but varying for other aspects. there…
/r/AllPillDebate17/04/23 07:07 PM
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Yes some of this is likely part of our evolution, but as we really don’t have hard proof of it, the AMOUNT of it that’s nature rather than nurture is very up for debate. That’s not to even say it’s NOT mostly nature, just that, who knows? we can’t exactly perform an experiment in a vacuum to determine this. It very well could be a lot of socialization. If you have pretty infallible evidence otherwise, I would be interested to see it and yes the nepalese groups doesn’t negate anything else. it wa…
/r/AllPillDebate17/04/23 05:59 PM
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a lot of the non cheating wives aren’t even at the bar. not to say that all wives at the bar cheat- definitely not, but that’s a crazy skewed sample
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:23 PM
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One of your gripes with women is that they insult, yet this statement is an insult
/r/AllPillDebate17/04/23 04:04 PM
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sign language is not a uniquely female attribute. the vast majority of men resort to this as well. it’s an idiot thing not a woman thing
/r/AllPillDebate17/04/23 04:01 PM
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I feel like a possible counter to SOME aspects of these core tenants is the fact that we can’t completely discern where nature ends and nurture begins. Nature sets the limits, and nurture determines where we fall into them. Our brains are extremely malleable from birth and this malleability can take form in a wide variety of personality traits. Take this assumption, for instance. Assume men and women are entirely similar ASIDE from our physiological strength disparity and difference in looks. Th…
/r/AllPillDebate17/04/23 03:54 PM
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similarly attractive couples work best based on multiple studies.
/r/AllPillDebate17/04/23 04:16 AM
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what makes you think women are less intelligent??? So many studies say otherwise. There ARE women in these professions, though not as many. rome wasn’t built in a day, and some of the systems that influenced women in the past are still in place today, albeit without actual limitations. Imagine a very different childhood, one where adults primarily compliment you on your looks, one where makeup products are already marketed towards you before you even reach ten. The shows your parents get you to …
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 02:23 PM
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we’re not talking about how people “tend” to meet. we’re talking about what’s realistically possible. my comments are in response to people saying that women do not care about personality or that it won’t help anyone’s case, not what women find attractive to begin with, not what profiles they swipe on. the 80/20 rule has ONLY been looked at with initial physical attractiveness- not even about if a woman would go for the guy. a study where the people actually meet up and personality is apparent w…
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 05:56 PM
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doesn’t translate to evidence for dating in the real world. online dating is evidence for online dating, which is superficial by nature. you don’t really get a feel for a persons personality in the same way. next
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 05:23 PM
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then where are your statistics for your side?
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 05:10 PM
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this is not the only answer. women fall for personality all the time. i’ve known women who moved across the country for ugly guys who didn’t even have any money
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 05:09 PM
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and no, i’m talking about women in good shape with a nice face and body with fat guys with bad faces and possible hygiene problems.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 03:03 PM
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can you provide something? aside from flimsy suppositions based on studies that don’t even measure what you’re talking about? women will get with guys they genuinely describe as ugly, so you’re not actually saying anything by talking about these attractiveness studies
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 03:01 PM
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yes if they see them on the street without knowing ANYTHING ELSE about them sure. but i’m talking about once they actually know a person. they don’t judge it the same when they know someone
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 03:00 PM
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women finding only 20% of men attractive from FIRST GLANCE means nothing. these studies you speak of are from pictures alone. A woman’s perception of looks is much more malleable than you seem to think. maybe it’s because you’re shallow and can’t conceive it. hopefully not. but it’s MUCH more often that you’ll see a woman dating an uglier man than the other way around. ive known women who initially thought a man was ugly do a complete 180. Also, being funny to your bros is different than being f…
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 01:36 PM
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You’re so wrong. SO wrong. Where’d you even get this idea? People have different preferences. You think the funny fat guy would get as much play if he wasn’t funny? no, if he acted like a creep nobody would want him. that’s not to say that attractive people don’t have an advantage. they can get away with a bit of a bigger threshold of weird behavior. but yes, personality DOES matter.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 01:12 PM
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if these horrendous creatures i know can get play, you can as well. you need to make FRIENDS. i have an obese friend who got with a girl a lot of people think is pretty good looking recently. Also plenty of people want a relationship. You may not be able to get the most attractive women but getting laid is possible for you. your looks alone aren’t gonna stop that unless you’re some kind of monster
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 01:09 PM
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personality matters. and i’m not saying she even necessarily has a BAD one- just that she might have a really insecure one and acts like a doormat.
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 10:47 PM
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there are honestly a few reasons. But to sum up one: Gender norms are pushed on men a bit more. If a man is bi but can get away with only doing it with women and ignoring the other side of his sexuality, he might, just because he doesn’t want to deal with the fallout. Vs if a man has much stronger urges towards other men, he’s going to have to be at least somewhat out about it if he wants to comfortably live his truth. A lot of gay men start with identifying as bi. It’s a softer launch and doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:02 PM
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so not true
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:13 PM
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way to ignore the rest of the comment. there’s nothing wrong with having standards- if you could fall in love with just anyone how would that be special? compatible traits are important unless you’re desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:59 PM
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men want the best woman they can get as well. The ones who don’t are worried about not being able to get anyone so they’ll take anything. if you have options you can afford to be picky- goes for both men and women. People love people who are extraordinary to them. why would you love someone if they weren’t special to you? they do NOT have to be “above average in every metric”. i’ve seen some women fall for some ugly creatures because of a good sense of humor women are “numbers” to men too lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:22 PM
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it’s really not. i’m not even speaking in a wistful romantic sense you’re just speaking in a weird cynical sense
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 08:49 PM
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i don’t think anyone is really a good judge of their own social skills.
/r/AllPillDebate04/04/23 08:46 PM
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or she wasn’t getting as aroused by him so it genuinely made it hurt more. cervix can absolutely hurt from a big enough size. and angle of penetration definitely matters. take it from women
/r/AllPillDebate04/04/23 02:24 PM
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have you ever been in love?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:19 PM
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attitude may be part of your problem. it’s very hard to hide when people have opinions like this- women have a great nose for sniffing this stuff out. you’re doing yourself a disservice by viewing things this way.
/r/AllPillDebate04/04/23 02:13 PM
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maybe it’s a personality thing? in my experience, women are much more likely to give an ugly guy a chance than vice versa. i’ve known really funny guys that get more play than attractive slightly awkward guys. and yes, for random hookups a lot of women are going to pick the hotter people because personality doesn’t matter for a hookup. that doesn’t even always mean that they actually want to be with these guys.
/r/AllPillDebate04/04/23 02:11 PM
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i love your username
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:47 PM
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it’s still so strange to see the perspective of someone with such a disconnect from women. like op clearly has no intimate (not just sexual) relationships with women. if you did, you would see that men and women aren’t so different. we all have the same emotions and fears. similar desires in life and hopes and dreams.
/r/AllPillDebate24/03/23 12:26 AM
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Doesn’t turn me on whatsoever. If anything, a woman will go after it for survival purposes. but those aren’t the things that make someone actually attracted. at least not directly. of course affording nicer clothes among other things helps
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:32 PM
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he’s probably not going to want to be with you by the time you get to his age then
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:49 PM
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“coachable” LMAO. this comment is a prime example of why we will never be fully okay with age gaps. you want someone to own.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:48 PM
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i don’t care if ugly people find me attractive or try to approach me. i’ll politely decline. a much older guy on the other hand? i have a visceral disgust reaction. that’s an ADULT adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:45 PM
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not saying anything about how much it matters but it IS different between 20- 30 and 20-23
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:37 PM
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i went to school on a full ride scholarship to a much better college than yours. if you really believe the opinion that community college makes you lesser than those at better schools. i have a superior education and im better than you in that respect. maybe you could also spell convenient right. just an idea. it’s very clear what you were talking about from the beginning. you used the word indoctrination, and your data is mostly just about iq. you can ramble all you want. but i think any outsid…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:03 PM
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it isn’t my fault you didn’t meet the impossible standard of data you set for yourself. i asked to display the fact that it couldn’t be done. you love to say i’m butthurt over my uneducated partner. i’m not. i would hold the same opinion whether i was dating him or not. it’s a terrible cop-out and disingenuous to the argument as a whole. of course i think people with a higher education tend to have a higher iq. your sources simply weren’t the “gotcha” you thought they were. they were mostly just…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:24 PM
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i’m unsure of if you really know the definition of hysteria. please refrain from attacking my argument from this unproductive angle. at least you’re finally actually answering my argument. took you a bit, but it’s a step in the right direction. the problem with all of these is that most of these dont really speak too much on your whole “indoctrination” hypothesis. iq points yes, but you can be high iq and still be a sheep. these studies aren’t enough to prove that ALL uneducated men are the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:45 PM
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you must have gone to college- no way you would be able to make the proper connections without it!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:50 PM
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oh i remember the title of the thread. but i am responding to YOUR comment under that thread, which included a blanket statement over an entire group of people. it’s your opinion because you believe it to be fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:25 PM
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oh my god i didn’t even read your comment until now and i just used the exact same example as you lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:24 PM
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oh my god- you are seriously straw manning here. my issue is not with you only dating educated men. you can do whatever you want and i really don’t care if that’s your preference. it’s as fine a preference to have as any. my issue was with the reasoning- the claims of “indoctrination” that are to you present in all uneducated men. i am not interested in your anecdotes- which are generally pretty shitty evidence markers at proving a claim like yours. your “niceness” is irrelevant just like mine i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:23 PM
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my assumptions aren’t a stretch. this is a limited conversation and you’re saying some things that speak to certain states of being. you even admitted one of my assumptions was correct. the basis of YOUR assumption, is just the simple fact that i’m arguing with you and maybe not doing so in the nicest way. but from the beginning you haven’t been very “nice” about people without a college education. so i could just as easily say “you’re just mad you can’t get a guy without an education”. but that…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:32 PM
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i’m not talking about those situations- i’m talking about the guys who very clearly are saying some derivative of your “you should be ashamed” example. it does happen. i’ve seen it a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:06 PM
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that’s a bit of a stretch of an assumption. i wouldn’t be dating him if i thought he was “indoctrinated”. i’m not offended for his sake. i’m annoyed in the way one is irked by clear ignorance. i scored the highest in my school on the act, sat, and psat- obtained a full ride merit scholarship because of it. so i’m one of those people who has gone and “fostered my critical thinking skills”. though really i’ve had them my whole life and didn’t need college to gain that. a lot of degrees are just me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:03 PM
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you sure love to say “no one said that” about things that a lot of people love to say. not saying youre the same, but there are some well spoken people who have exactly this argument, no mistaking it for anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:20 PM
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i am dating one. he’s well read and might get a degree eventually he just hasn’t had the best circumstances in life to allow him to get one. just wanted to point out the silliness here. you don’t unlearn indoctrination at a public institution lmao. you either question your reality or you don’t. your “deduction” makes you come off as classist, snobby, and ironically indoctrinated yourself. not to be rude but it kind of makes you seem dumb and lacking of self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:16 PM
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that’s good. i hope things get better. the islamic revolution really shook everything up and still is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:01 AM
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oh. damn are you okay there i heard things got brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:51 AM
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what country
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:49 AM
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not at all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:18 AM
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i think you have some pretty bad bias. there are sheep and independent thinkers at pretty much every level of education. there’s “indoctrination” everywhere, even the school system you think makes you superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:17 AM
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no. you can have a great job without a degree and that’s not really something i care too much about anyway. you can also be extremely intelligent and knowledgeable without one. i do want to date someone decently intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:11 AM
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i’d also like to add that a lot of women don’t even participate in online dating. it’s a certain group. most girls i know don’t care much for height or money. i’m dating someone who is pretty much my height and doesn’t have much money at all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:56 PM
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online dating shouldn’t be dismissed, but it should mainly be used as a measure of how online dating works- it’s not exactly the same irl. dating apps are superficial in nature. you don’t get to see as much of someone’s personality from one so you’re going to go based more off of looks as a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:50 PM
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oml thank you i’m glad it’s appreciated
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:28 PM
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yeah there are a lot of women out there that let go of their appearance and maybe aren’t at a healthy weight, but a lot of those women at least groom themselves and have decent hygiene. more men than women have bad hygiene
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 04:47 PM
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they just want to start them later. career and other things are starting to take priority
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/22 01:57 PM
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no. actually it’s not overwhelming in general. but, are YOU really going to be the one to make fun of it? don’t make me laugh. your standard of evidence was extremely low. you went off of your little “feelings” and expected me to actually take it into account as evidence. my evidence was something, unlike yours. for the goal of calling YOUR “evidence” into question, it is overwhelming. idk what to tell you- that’s what happens when you set your standard of evidence as low as you have. it’s becom…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:38 PM
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i feel like it’s not quite that simple unless i’m just a man and i don’t know it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 04:37 AM
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when something starts out as a “boys only” thing, it takes a while for there to be a shift. plus, have you seen the way they design the characters in a lot of things? the women are so hot and the men are often ugly. i know that’s not the sole reason a lot of people play games but if the roles were reversed with how the characters were designed, men would probably steer clear of those games or at least not play them seriously as much. and that’s just one part of it. there are a lot of guys that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 04:35 AM
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not every man is the same lmfao. i see attractive men with some hideous creatures sometimes. not the most common but it happens. you’re really gonna say men don’t care about personality at ALL? real life experience tells me different
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/22 02:09 AM
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if i take care of myself i don’t see myself declining significantly looks wise until at least my late thirties. going off of how my parents have aged, i don’t really think i have much to worry about for a long while. it’s a little hard to tell what you mean by “better” in this sense because my dream man is someone who cares a great deal for my personality anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/22 01:55 AM
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the ages are different for different women idk what to tell you. it depends on a lot of things. the reason we think people have to peak so early is because people treat their bodies like dogshit and the majority end up overweight. and some are genetically predisposed to have a way slower metabolism after a few years too. i’m fit, i could probably go to gain a little weight though. i was a late bloomer and still have an extremely high metabolism. yeah i already know how to play chess and guitar. …
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/22 01:13 AM
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abilities such as programming and realistic art guitar chess and a lot of my other hobbies. some men do care about these things and are impressed by them, and those are the kind of men i like anyway. i’m unsure what age i’ll look best. i might up my physical fitness, get more flattering haircuts and wear more flattering clothes later. as long as i don’t let myself go a lot, the physical “deterioration” will be negligible for quite some time. i’m not at peak fitness or anything and i still don’t …
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/22 12:01 AM
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balding isn’t high testosterone it’s like your body being “allergic” or intolerant to a type of testosterone. if you don’t have this issue you can have a lot of testosterone and not go bald.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 08:32 PM
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a lot of guys are balding crazy early is one thing i’ve noticed
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 08:30 PM
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i’m nowhere near that age yet, but i’m sure with age i’ll have learned much more about the world and be able to carry a better conversation. i’ll have more stories to tell and be a more complete person. maybe more confident in my abilities, and my skills at art music and language will be better. i don’t think my attractiveness is going to suddenly go down at 28 either- that’s really still super young and as long as you don’t treat your body terribly you can look good for many years after.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 08:29 PM
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the dating culture there and personal testimony from icelandic people. there are also STILL tribes out there around nepal that practice the marrying of multiple husbands to one woman. historically the shaming of promiscuity in society wasnt as prevalent until the spread of a few monotheistic religions either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 05:59 PM
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no, absolutely not. none of your points were actually evidence. i’ve already addressed those other “points”: a seemingly logical supposition doesn’t equate to truth. if these are so instinctive then why do some other countries like iceland not care so much about a woman’s promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 05:39 PM
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LMAO no i’m not forgetting that you’re a man. it’s just bullshit logic. the strength of your feeling doesn’t mean it’s biologically ingrained. work with facts. not your “feelings”. my disgust at promiscuity in men was so bad it would make me nauseous. it felt stronger than my instinct to eat when hungry that’s for sure. doesn’t make it an automatic genetic instinct we don’t automatically assume strong feelings are genetic. many men arent even disgusted by partner promiscuity. and many women are.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 04:09 PM
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no. just no. the men i know who actually tried to unlearn it had an easier time than me. you’re INFERRING men are unattracted to it because of evolution. like i said, there’s no evidence for it. a seemingly logical supposition does not equate to truth. you can just as easily assume women’s disgust to it is biological as well, and just assume our society makes women not express the trait as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 03:01 PM
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i don’t think so. i’ve only ever heard it talked about the first way and it seems to make more sense that way anyway. like you can have a gene to be predisposed to violence but with the right upbringing it may not ever actually become a thing. genetics are there from the beginning. nurture comes after. and yeah it seems a lot of people on this sub love to do that just to reaffirm their beliefs. they love to say correlation is causation in really complex social issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:59 AM
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yes i don’t deny that. i mostly just view it as nature sets the limits and nurture determines where you fall within them. but just claiming it’s biological and such an “obvious fact” that just doesn’t even need to be questioned is so ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:36 AM
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i’ve really only noticed women being like this when they’re also fine with a lot of “mommy” stuff like i feel like this is just traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 04:19 AM
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because you’re making blanket statements generalizing all women. it doesn’t take much to disprove you here. in a lot of arguments, a reddit thread wouldn’t be enough, but you made it too easy. reddit is also over 60 percent men, and there’s still a substantial amount of women there either way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 10:37 PM
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promiscuity for women is somewhat a taboo here. the women who are comfortable with revealing cheating for a survey are probably also the women who are comfortable revealing their count.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 06:18 PM
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yes, and i was more disgusted and turned off by it than any man i knew at the time. it took years and a lot of work for it to get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:46 PM
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yeah if you want the largest drop in marital satisfaction for ANY age pairing demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:10 PM
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ice cream and crime are both linked to summer. you’re flailing here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:00 PM
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there’s no real evidence it’s biological. there are other countries that don’t care so much about a woman’s promiscuity. when you tell yourself it’s biological of course you’re going to think nothing can be done about it. it’s likely a large part socialization. i had a visceral disgusted feeling with knowing my partners got with other people when i first started dating. if i thought it was biological i’m sure i wouldn’t have attempted to unlearn it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 03:57 PM
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yeah i just don’t think it’s a men vs women thing i think it definitely happens to men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 02:06 PM
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hope you read all the comments and let that shit sink in. you’re SO wrong about everything
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:18 PM
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i think that’s just for both men and women who don’t work at all on keeping things great
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:16 PM
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i wouldn’t normally make an assumption like this but yeah it seems painfully clear
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 05:36 AM
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you agree that women can’t love?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 03:50 AM
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why is the r/deadbedrooms subreddit half women with higher libidos than their husband complaining about not getting any?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 03:47 AM
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bro doesn’t think women can orgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 03:44 AM
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oh my GOD this is possibly the most deranged post i’ve ever seen here. this isn’t true at all. you can think every single woman is lying about this but we’re not. we experience sexual desire. and we can have feelings of love as well. you’re so so far removed from women that you’ve developed some pretty big delusions. if this is all true, why are women SIX times more likely to be divorced by their husbands when they are diagnosed with a terminal illness, than men divorced by their wives after the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 03:43 AM
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source???? pregnancy and children can be a trigger for domestic abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 03:39 AM
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i mean if they’re happy, what’s wrong with it really? status isn’t as important to some and looks aren’t everything to evwryone
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 02:15 AM
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the bar is set lower for some to become attracted romantically to someone. especially people who don’t really have a lot of options. i’m not a man but back when i was ugly, i would develop a little crush on pretty much every single decent looking guy who would befriend me. now, definitely not. the comments are confirming it probably partially because the demographic here is skewed towards guys who have dating trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 02:13 AM
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in your experience. things aren’t so black and white
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:26 PM
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i mean i don’t think this really has to do with your gender- it’s just harder with a single parent unless you have a lot of help from other family. kids need a lot of attention
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:25 PM
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women do the exact same thing lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 05:41 PM
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then sure. i don’t want a slave who secretly hates me so 2
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:54 PM
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so i still might think they’re super hot just not technically perfect?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:23 PM
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how attractive are we talking though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:24 PM
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there’s not even that much attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:15 PM
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and their partner is sometimes marrying for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:51 PM
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yeah, often not, but marrying for sex is part of the reason people get divorced. you have to be able to stand someone to actually be around them all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:02 PM
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if you’re not careful with it. you can 1- go into a marriage with a prenuptial agreement, and 2- compile evidence of their infidelity and/or abuse before you file for it. men are not likely to lose custody when they actually try to keep it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:42 PM
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then go ask to change the definition
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:39 PM
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then go ask to change the definition
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:38 PM
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partner isn’t just for gay couples. we’re on reddit. we don’t know anything about your gender or sexuality from your comments anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:37 PM
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abuse isn’t necessarily physical. abuse takes many forms. if you’re creating an environment of fear, even without physically doing anything, it’s still abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:36 PM
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it’s not just women who idealize love
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:34 PM
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yeah but if she does those things you can be the one to divorce her at least
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:33 PM
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it’s still very commonplace. women are aware of the concept of slut shaming from a young age, and a lot of them still have protective parents who lecture them on boys and being impure, while allowing their brothers to do whatever they want. this is most common in religious households, and when you control for religion, the discrepancy is far less statistically significant. even in nonreligious households there are elements of this though. i’ve heard my mom make an off handed comment here and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:29 PM
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ah yes, based on reddit threads
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/22 03:43 PM
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if your point was to point out a correlation alone, why did you even bring it up? i only assumed you were implying causation because i already admitted there was a correlation. so why say it again???? you need a reading class. you’re making no sense and saying irrelevant things. you either think it implies causation or you dont. did you really just try to use some weird men’s health blog that sells products as evidence? additionally, the article doesn’t actually even support any conclusions abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:31 PM
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no. take a stats class. correlation does not imply causation. men’s greater sexual jealousy does nothing to purport the conclusion that it’s evolution. it could just as well be socially conditioned. there are still a few tribes that marry multiple men to one woman. that’s not evidence at all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:14 PM
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and there’s nothing that really supports any other hypotheses either. yet people in this sub are really going to love using this to justify saying some pretty shitty things. there are a lot better indicators than promiscuity that probably make better filters. it’s understandable i guess for people who don’t understand social cues very well, but in real life things are much more complex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:01 PM
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all you need to do is look at my first comment. we aren’t mad at the preference in a vacuum. just what often comes with it. as i already said, it’s the shaming that people disguise as just a preference. the seeing promiscuous women as “not marriage material” in general. and seeing them as objectively bad, which is what most (or at least a great percentage) of men with this preference do. it makes it different because THATS what we’re mad at, not the preference itself. calling any man who wants t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:47 PM
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a bad profile will still get her significantly fewer messages than other women. it’s irrelevant though- a man having a good profile will still help him, and his lack of one is a sign that he isn’t very socially adept. ive helped guys with some pretty horrendous profiles before, and it seemed pretty obvious what would help
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:39 PM
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yes. just as obese as now. didn’t even know who he was when he wasn’t obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:37 PM
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in a society where women are trained from birth to see their sexuality as a valuable prize and their restraint as a sign that makes them “marriage material”, it isn’t very shocking that the ones who stray from this norm are more likely to be some of the ones who don’t care about the sanctity of marriage. especially when a lot of this is because of religion. there’s a correlation sure, because of the society we live in, but it’s not a practical vetting technique. like the study said, women with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:36 PM
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look at the average girls tinder profiles and then look at guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:18 PM
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i love how the whole point of the first section you simply responded to with “ok?”. that’s the entire crux of the issue that makes it different. YES, they are all preferences. that’s what these things share. but i’m talking about what’s DIFFERENT about them. it is NOT about the strength of the preference. i could say i would never date someone with green eyes because they aren’t my thing. it isn’t about the severity of the preference. you can strongly prefer one thing without dehumanizing someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:17 PM
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let’s go ahead and nip this one in the bud- a preference for something does NOT automatically mean you think of something as lesser. if i want to date someone who plays chess, it’s because i play chess. neither of my parents play chess. i still hold them in higher regard than anyone else. do i think my parents don’t make good husbands and wives and are inferior or “low value” because they don’t play chess? NO. i recognize people who don’t play chess are just as important and valuable people than…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 01:29 PM
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how tf would you know. i’m not only friends with people i want to fuck. they’re really not super attractive. one of my friends is literally obese
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:58 PM
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you can most definitely tell a lot from a phone screen. a funny joke or pictures that make you seem normal and not weird are often enough to get women to swipe on you. most men’s accounts are terrible and very low effort
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:56 PM
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but every woman is different. the “poking” in and out brings me to completion almost every time because it still puts pressure on the inside wall. i only called it “vaginal” to make the distinction between inside and outside stimulation, because you were basically acting like there was something wrong with me or i was lying. i’m not discounting your experience, i believe you feel what you say you feel. so dont discount mine or insult me any further.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:20 AM
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that source is mostly concerned with specific terminology. stop being pedantic. vaginal orgasm is just a term im loosely using here to describe where the stimulation comes from. i don’t know WHY you keep saying it comes from the clit when i have made it clear that YES, it does! i’ve never disagreed on that point. YES the dick pushing on the vaginal wall can cause an orgasm. you just said it YOURSELF. that’s WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. you just admitted that an orgasm can be achieved from p in v inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:39 AM
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i don’t like it no. i try not to watch it in a relationship either because i don’t want to be a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:15 AM
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i mean i guess. they just seem like normal well adjusted people. i feel like a lot of men aren’t properly taught social skills and expressing things at a young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:59 AM
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“Vaginal orgasms are typically felt deeper in the body than a clitoral orgasm. During a vaginal orgasm, the walls of the vaginal canal pulsate. Some women may also ejaculate (squirt) during a vaginal orgasm.” https://www.verywellhealth.com/vaginal-orgasm-4774327 OMG look it’s the same source you used for your little diagram girly. i’ll take my apology now.✨
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:58 AM
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i mean they’re really funny and pretty socially progressive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:48 AM
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NO LMAO. i’ll make it clear: part of clit inside body- this part can feel penis inside vagina- penis inside vagina can feel good with no touching outside button. i’ve said this FROM THE BEGINNING. i haven’t changed my argument. orgasms can be experienced without any kind of bodily grinding action. it’s still the clit, but the primary stimulation CAN come from the inside. just because YOU haven’t, doesn’t mean other people haven’t either. again, WHY would dildos exist if not? maybe you just don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:47 AM
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maybe. they’re alright. not super attractive but most aren’t terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:28 AM
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did i ONCE say it wasn’t the clit??? from the very beginning i made it clear it was still the clit just the part that can be stimulated from inside the vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:22 AM
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maybe it’s just the guys i know then. because multiple guys i know are able to meet up with girls from tinder pretty regularly when they’re single
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:18 AM
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LMAO. i explained to you already that it’s still the clit being stimulated just not the part that’s exposed on the front. you KNOW that’s what i mean. it’s just coming from a different angle because PART of it is inside and able to be stimulated via vaginal intercourse alone. low iq things ✨ at this point it kinda seems like you’re a man posing as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:16 AM
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hard to say. guys in real life i know don’t really complain that much and often say it’s pretty easy. i don’t know if i should really use a sub like this to judge because it’s pretty biased. you’re either interested in debating dating strategy or you’re having trouble dating
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:13 AM
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low iq things✨
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:06 AM
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no. just no. my diagram makes it more clear how it can be stimulated from the inside. it pushes the inner section onto the pubic symphysis from the INSIDE. you can get an orgasm without stimulating the outside button of the clit whatsoEVER. it’s a different type of feel for some because of the direction it’s coming from. how is someone who doesn’t even orgasm regularly gonna tell me i’ve never done it without outer clit stimulation. why do you think dildos exist??? why would they exist and be a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:04 AM
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do you seriously not know that diagrams can be oversimplified? it doesn’t matter when it’s from.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:55 AM
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seriously you’re embarrassing yourself 🤣 https://femalehealthawareness.org/en/pelvic-and-genital-anatomy-frequently-asked-questions/ this is why a lot of people like penises with an upward curve. it CAN be stimulated from the inside
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:54 AM
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an oversimplified diagram. the inside part of the clitoris wasn’t even discovered until nearly the 21st century. LOOK IT UP oh my god
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:51 AM
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and you think this is true 100% of the time? sorry, just not buying it. you’re placing too rigid expectations on the extremely varied human experience. it’s really usa- centric as well. you look at a place like iceland and it’s not going to be like that. they care less about a woman’s promiscuity in general there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 01:36 AM
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and you think this is true 100% of the time? sorry, just not buying it. you’re placing too rigid expectations on the extremely varied human experience. it’s really usa- centric as well. you look at a place like iceland and it’s not going to be like that. they care less about a woman’s promiscuity in general there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 01:34 AM
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you view things too black and white. a guy like this could definitely marry a “slut” and still be faithful to her. maybe even a woman with baby daddies but that’s a little more far fetched. i’m definitely not speaking on that. i definitely understand why it’s seen as a bad thing to have multiple random baby daddies more than just responsible promiscuity
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 01:16 AM
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you said a man who is high value is a man who is fantasized about by tons of women. if a guy is insanely attractive he is, regardless of what woman he chooses
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 01:05 AM
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you don’t get to decide who is high value. are you really trying to tell me a rich attractive competent man who can get any woman he wants but chooses a high count woman is a beta?? that’s ONE attribute. and it’s YOUR opinion that it’s a bad thing. not everyone shares it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:44 AM
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when i say date, i mean a real relationship. yes you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:39 AM
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sure, it’s not your thing. but you don’t make the rules. you can have self respect and still date someone with a high count.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:35 AM
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it’s kinda hard to say. we hung out a few times and it happened kinda slowly with us both doing very small things and it eventually just happened. i’m the one who asked him to date though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:22 AM
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as long as his confidence was on the extreme low end which isn’t healthy for anyone. of course. the guy im dating right now isn’t very confident in himself in some ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:12 AM
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yeah there are so many derogatory words for a promiscuous woman it’s so obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:11 AM
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hell no. lmaoo i probably know my body better than you do. i do it every day i know exactly what it is. it just feels better done a certain way and multiple women feel like this. like i said, you didn’t even know the clit was an organ that extended into inside the vagina. probably an older woman who didn’t get proper sex education
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:09 AM
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you are not an authority on what makes a man a good man or “worth his salt”. wouldn’t call him a beta. he was able to get plenty of casual sex and a lot of people liked him. when i say dating i mean serious boyfriends. i know multiple men, attractive good people, dating girls with high counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:04 AM
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everyone has strengths and weaknesses. as long as they aren’t super exaggerated it can be fine
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:58 PM
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i mean yeah if one partner has absolutely ZERO confidence it can be an issue. this is a valuable character trait in general that everyone should have a bit of. but someone a bit more confident than the other person isn’t going to have an issue with using their confidence. it just comes naturally to them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:34 PM
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i wouldn’t say a self respecting man worth his salt isn’t gonna want a similarly experienced girlfriend. actually these are guys i find repulsive. and a guy lying about his body count to make it higher isn’t gonna get any points with me. plenty of guys with high counts are fine with dating girls who have a similar count. i once had a guy that felt super insecure that i had a serious relationship before him when he hadn’t had one yet, just plenty of casual sex. he even said he would rather i just…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:32 PM
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yeah i’m not saying getting a hot guy is necessarily easy lmao. or that you should go to the ends of the earth to try to make it happen lol. and no. we’re friends. then i feel the vibe of interest. then we sleep together and start dating shortly after. sure it may be easier to get a less attractive guy, especially if you’re not attractive but it’s never been a problem for me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:20 PM
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yeah exactly lmao i don’t really believe in the concept of sin, but if it’s harder for guys to have sex then a guy with a high count must have had to try really hard to get it then. seems more desperate than the women who just said yes to a guy when he asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:17 PM
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exactly. it doesn’t make sense and doesn’t increase compatibility. people who love sex should be fine with people who love sex if they want a happy dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:14 PM
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not at all. you could just as easily say virgin men can benefit from a sluts experience at giving the gawk gawk. women don’t necessarily hate virgin men. a lot of them hate incels because of what the term has come to represent. if a guy is a virgin by choice they’re not going to make him lose points for it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:10 PM
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it’s logical for someone who isn’t confident to want someone who is. it can make you stronger as a unit and what one person lacks the other person has, and can be used in real world situations to help you both. the same can’t really be said about promiscuity
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:08 PM
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it’s not that we’re really mad about an individual guy feeling like that. a lot of it is the overarching societal double standard. their reasoning is often dehumanizing a bit. like you can prefer taller men without thinking shorter men are disgusting and not fit for a relationship. but many of these men use bullshit analogies and view these women as lesser. like i don’t have to date a guy to be bothered that he’s viewing women in a weird way. plus, it’s different than a preference for a lot of o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:06 PM
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what are you talking about. by that logic what? i’m not saying fuck hot guys until you can date one. i’m typically friends first with the people i date anyway. i’m just saying when hot guys DO get in relationships they often really do want a relationship. my “logic” did not imply any sort of strategy or plan of action to obtain a hot guy lmfao. so no, not “by that logic”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:57 PM
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i don’t think we can even say most of them will cheat. women can just lie about their body counts anyway to get with some guys. i don’t advocate for it, but they can do it. personally i’m not gonna want to be with someone who doesn’t hold me to the same standard they hold themselves to in this respect. and a lot of guys with high counts don’t care quite as much about their girls count. like yeah they might not want to be with the girl who slept with the whole football team, but girls aren’t real…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:51 PM
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attractive men, if all they want is sex, have less need for a serious girlfriend. they can get away with a fwb if they want. with an ugly dude you don’t really necessarily know if his main goal is just a bunch of sex. he can’t easily get it casually.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:40 PM
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which is kind of an issue. a huge reason women who sleep around are more likely to cheat during marriages is because ones with lower counts are more likely to be religious. the link establishes a correlation at best and a high count alone doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll cheat. women get fomo just as men do, and for some women, it’s honestly better for them to get it out of their system just like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:36 PM
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the vagina ITSELF is it’s own thing yes. but you can ACCESS part of the clit from inside the vagina. the type of build up is different, causing the orgasm to potentially build up differently and result in a stronger one for some women. anyone who has orgasmed before knows sometimes it’s stronger than others
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:33 PM
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girl i fucking CANT with you. PART OF THE CLIT IS INSIDE THE VAGINA. you haven’t even experienced it. you would agree if you had. it’s obviously an orgasm lmfao. it’s not just the fucking baby hole oh by god. YOU need a biology lesson. your ass didn’t even know part of the clit was in the vaginal wall. probably some old woman who didn’t get proper sex education.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:57 PM
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i think a lot of women don’t want to see them because many of them probably had their first experience getting an unsolicited one from an adult when they were very young lol. kind of ruins it for some probably
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:54 PM
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i mean i guess yeah. but women get fomo too without sleeping around and you probably don’t advocate for them to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:52 PM
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yeah, but at the same time i actually feel like some of the most loyal people are attractive ones too. a lot of unattractive guys would jump at the chance to cheat (if there was one) because fewer people are attracted to them and people want what they can’t have. vs really attractive guys are used to having options. ugly guys are less likely to cheat statistically, but i feel like if every guy had the same options to cheat, the attractive guys would probably do it less on average tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:33 AM
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girl you HAVE to be trolling. sucks for you though. vaginal orgasms are like ten times better than ones from clit stimulation imo
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:25 AM
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of course we like seeing them lol. just not if it’s some random person without consent because of my disgust at their audacity to do something so commonly known to be disrespectful
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:24 AM
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i LITERALLY just said it extends to inside the body. the organ is much larger than the tiny dot and can be stimulated by the pelvic wall INSIDE the vagina. part of it is inside. can you read? learn anatomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 01:07 AM
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until marriage? that’s too far. i was kind of on board until you said that. if he wanted to wait with me just to make it special or something like that i would feel flattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 12:51 AM
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no? wtf. are you just trolling at this point. all you’ve said is ridiculous shit. i am how i am and it has nothing to do with wanting to be like a man wtf. my drive is automatic and doesn’t take effort. this clit is actually a larger organ than just the button and extends inside your pelvic cavity too. depending on the placement of the clit some women have a harder time finishing from penetration. and some can easily do it. either way both types of women can be really horny people. maybe you sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 12:43 AM
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we can talk about that, but that’s an entirely different argument. you’re just making blanket statements with no backing. i’m a woman too. and i have an entirely different experience. you can’t speak for us as a while
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 09:57 PM
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again, the subreddit r/deadbedrooms is half women wanting their low libido partner. this sub isn’t a good indicator
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 07:52 PM
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what the hell does “that’s my point” mean? what was your point? there used to be a stigma saying women were the lustier sex. are you really gonna say it wouldn’t be this way if we wanted sex when the stigma used to be the OPPOSITE? again why did you completely fail to address the study i mentioned? in countries like iceland where women are not shamed as much for promiscuity, casual sex is common and women make the first move a lot too. you have NO evidence to support your claims whatsoever. what…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:57 PM
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thank you lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:43 PM
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societal pressure from birth is a powerful thing that you seem to know very little of. maybe you should take some anthropology classes and stats classes. you’re really not giving me a compelling argument to work with
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:17 PM
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yeah of course. only thing is makeup comes off before bed. these other things at least last for a while and don’t feel so artificial
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 08:06 AM
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i mean sure make-up does a lot but a lot of guys don’t even try with the other things that could give them a huge boost
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 08:05 AM
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how do you know it never is
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 06:31 AM
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or maybe she’s just very into his personality???
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 06:31 AM
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uh yeah- he was speaking about a specific situation she brought up. anecdotal evidence is fine in this case. just look at the comment she was replying to in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 06:30 AM
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there’s honestly a lot of things men could do to improve their look that aren’t makeup related
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 06:28 AM
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not everything is marketed towards women. in certain categories sure, but a lot of mainstream things that both genders can enjoy are still marketed towards men. like movies
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 03:57 PM
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women liking “men’s things”, while not necessarily taboo, is still something that’s not socialized in a lot of women. if a dad likes fishing, he’s most likely going to want to share it with his son. he might want to share it with his daughter. that’s why you have fewer women interested in certain activities. and often not enough to form a huge group. if men being feminine was less taboo, we would see more of the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 03:55 PM
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well, i’m okay with masturbation but i feel a little less okay with porn. we have pictures and videos for that plus i’m pretty much never not willing. it was just odd to me that less sex was seen as a good thing so enthusiastically. you’re not wrong to feel that way though. i just think it’s fine to not be okay with porn
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 03:05 AM
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when did i say that? all i said was that some of us like sex. he can masturbate of course. but i don’t think of it through the lens of “thank god less sex for me”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 11:33 PM
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are you just going to ignore everything i said? you don’t have any real evidence. just your “feelings”. you FEEL like men wouldn’t give into the societal pressure from birth but you don’t KNOW. you haven’t lived in a society like that. did you even read the part where i was talking about an actual study? you are one woman. don’t speak for them in general without actual evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 09:22 PM
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that may just be a you thing. also guys are not told from birth that they should hold onto their virginity. when guys are called a slut it doesn’t hold any negative connotation. you say it “makes sense” but a seemingly logical supposition does not equate to proof. societal impacts restrict us all. if you look at the r/deadbedrooms sub, around HALF of the higher libido partners are women. there are even studies that show women often report similar levels of sexual desire to men when there’s a lie…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 07:30 PM
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person A obviously as long as he doesn’t have an incel type mentality. it’s like winning the lottery. i wouldn’t want it to be blind worship though like i’m his religion and he’s a radical. i’d still want someone who had their own opinions. as long as he’s not my zombie slave worship is great
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:51 PM
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how do you know? societal and religious attitudes influence how we express sexual desire
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:42 PM
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it’s almost as if this value system is a bit arbitrary and nobody’s personal experience can be reduced to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:34 PM
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when people talk about fgm, they’re not just talking about removal of the clitoral hood. it’s often much worse than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:48 PM
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not literally always but any time i feel normal and physically well pretty much. i think i have a bit of a higher libido than my partner so i’m pretty much always up for it when he wants to and sometimes he’s the one who doesn’t want to. and yeah i’m away from him a lot because of college i just masturbate a few times a day normally and it’s fine. it doesn’t have to be sex but i’d prefer it to masturbation
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:44 PM
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i was half asleep and thought he finished inside your air conditioner for a sec
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 04:03 PM
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speak for yourself lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 04:00 PM
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take these women’s explanation with a grain of salt. there are plenty of women who masturbate very often. even multiple times a day. society has pushed women to be shameful of their sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 04:00 PM
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there are people who do this. maybe her boyfriend maybe not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 03:57 PM
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i think you’re in denial. the human mind can deceive us it’s a little weird you’re so confident it hasn’t affected you when you don’t know what you’d be like without watching it for all these years. i really think it’s affected me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 03:56 PM
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um. some of us actually like sex and don’t think of less sex as a good thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 03:52 PM
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that’s very sweet kratom boofer
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 03:51 PM
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not a plain truth how???? fgm often causes excruciating intercourse. of course circumcision is the legal one. i’m just saying they aren’t exactly equivalent
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 03:42 PM
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it’s making the best of a bad situation. it’s a net loss. it’s like saying being disabled means you get to ride around in a cool wheelchair
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:12 AM
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women trying to use a DISADVANTAGE to their advantage is not a privilege. objectification is not a good thing. women getting into clubs is entirely for men’s benefit at its root. they let girls in because men want to fuck them. male circumcision isn’t right but it’s nowhere near as damaging as fgm. it’s not necessarily true that women automatically get to be choosier. hot men have better options than ugly women. attractiveness matters more for this one. there isn’t real evidence women have an ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:45 AM
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plenty of women actually don’t like muscley men. it’s not even a “not like other girls” thing because they know other women are like that too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:44 PM
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not disagreeing but womens pedophilia rates are way lower lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:39 PM
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sorry but this doesn’t prove that at all. she simply has less status in other countries. women are not automatically attracted to obama. i feel like you don’t know many women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:33 PM
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it does no such thing. her status isn’t there in other countries so they won’t care about her status. what does people not being popular across the world have to do with ANYTHING?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 11:27 PM
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what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 10:49 PM
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it can be hard. but i think you can do it. different strategies depending on your position in life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 10:48 PM
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me too. it’s hard to accept you aren’t the best at things
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 10:48 PM
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and this is related to the point how?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 10:47 PM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:26 PM
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but there are some men smarter than some women. and some women smarter than other women. it’s not possible that every woman on earth is the smartest person there is. everybody’s got someone above us
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:23 PM
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a good way to get out of it is definitely to make female friends. but also just reading our responses is good for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:22 PM
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women as well. aside from the occasional crazy bitch, nobody really wants to fuck steve buscemi. but there’s a degree of status men do want from getting with celebrities. you can’t argue it’s not a bonus. 99% of guys would rather bang zendaya than a lookalike who was not famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:22 PM
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both men and women treated equally? that’s feminist. for the longest time i didn’t want to describe myself as feminist because why would “feminism” be the word we use to describe gender equality? i understand how feminism started so it makes sense but still it would be a little nice to have an updated naming system. but that’s the word they use, so i guess i’m just rolling with it
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 09:15 PM
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ridiculous lol. i see constant posts about getting with zendaya. not obama.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:11 PM
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op you seem like a nice person who genuinely wants to learn. what are you doing on this sub lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:10 PM
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you think more women would get with obama than men get with zendaya?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:08 PM
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the smart women are less likely to feel inferior because of intelligence, but do you really think unintelligent women or even women of average iq don’t go through it too? everyone wants to be smart. soo many of my friends wish they were smarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:07 PM
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it’s because you’re not a woman. it’s definitely a grass is greener fantasy. when you havent experienced something you can build it up in your head as much as you want
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:04 PM
4

not so much dating hardships anymore because i’m in a long term relationship, but i used to a LOT. for the longest time i wasnt a girl that guys were interested in. i got rejected plenty for sure. not much insecurity in the intellect department, but i suspect if i didn’t get ridiculous praise from teachers when i was young i would have. if i wasn’t seen as a prodigy, i bet i would have felt insanely insecure- most people i know are insecure about their intelligence at least to a degree. it’s a v…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:03 PM
3

who is saying looks don’t matter? i don’t think you know what blue pill people actually believe
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 08:32 PM
1

yes but this doesn’t say that most women prefer it. that just means a random 22 year old in your dms preferred it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 08:26 PM
1

but i’m talking about much older guys. not guys a few years older. a forty year old isn’t typically gonna be mistaken for twenty. even if they are, their place in life can subconsciously ruin chemistry because a lot of people want people a similar age to them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 08:02 PM
1

the same way i am viscerally unattracted to people much older than me. you could check all the right boxes and i’d have chemistry with you if you were younger, but because of age there might be none. look at my WHOLE response.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 07:58 PM
1

yes and age can contribute to chemistry in a negative way. look at my first comment. it’s not about what you’re saying at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 07:36 PM
1

firstly, obama is younger and more attractive than clinton. secondly, it’s very few women who would actually fuck obama. part of it is zendayas fame. you can’t deny that. guys would rather be able to say they got with zendaya than a random zendaya lookalike.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:51 PM
1

okay? what does this have to do with my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:49 PM
1

jesus christ that’s EXACTLY WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. i’m seeing less women care so much about wealth and status. and are you really going to ignore the MAIN point? and only look at the afterthought? JESUS CHRIST
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:20 PM
14

it can be seen as equally bad for a man to have a string of failed relationships. it just depends on context for both
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:18 PM
1

are you kidding? do you see how big of an internet meme it’s become to talk about wanting to date zendaya, and other famous women? i don’t see how you can quantify women doing it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:07 PM
0

the age itself is a dealbreaker though. you could just as well say you want a woman with big breasts and obese women are more likely to have them- doesn’t mean you want an obese woman. i don’t hear a lot of girls wanting a powerful man these days tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:05 PM
1

how do you know it’s not as often
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:03 PM
1

and how do you know this? also, men would do the same for a female celebrity
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:51 PM
2

i see very few women saying they want a protector/leader. it’s usually wannabe tradwives and i wouldn’t exactly call those average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:50 PM
2

them having plenty of women lined up doesn’t mean most women are like this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:41 PM
2

it’s really not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:39 PM
1

redpill is just self improvement with misogyny sprinkled in a bunch. you can do the former without the latter and you don’t need rp to do it
/r/ExRedPill22/09/22 04:21 PM
0

it’s my favorite sub to argue on. i don’t think there’s a lot of fds people there actually. there’s a lot of redpill and some normally adjusted people. but yeah being exposed to that much rp content isn’t always great
/r/ExRedPill22/09/22 04:17 PM
1

but what does this say about you? and it kinda makes the firsts not as important, even to her anyway probably. if somethings a first for me but not for someone else, i’m not gonna care about it as much. so it kinda doesn’t do what you’re trying to accomplish
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:15 PM
2

what’s that supposed to prove? 1. it’s not an absolutely huge sub. 2. not everyone in it (i’d go as far as to say nowhere near) is a girl exclusively attractive to older men. i mean the first post i read was a girl saying she made a mistake getting with an older guy and doesn’t like it. so thanks for that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 03:54 PM
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sure they don’t consciously think about age. but they are still not attracted to old guys. it’s visceral
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 03:50 PM
1

when he’s seen and done it all with other girls? it’s weird. because avoiding girls who have done what he has implies that there’s something wrong with it. like if you wouldn’t want to date someone similar to yourself in that way you must be a bad person to date
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 03:49 PM
-1

i’m sure plenty do but a lot dont
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 08:25 AM
1

we do not. women preferring much younger men is weird too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 08:23 AM
1

you don’t think a lot of these women want the same thing? people love to share firsts. but isn’t it better if it’s a first for both of you? takes the meaning away a bit when it’s only one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 08:23 AM
1

i’ll be missing out on a lot it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 08:21 AM
5

absolutely not lol. this is rare. maybe you’re getting too exposed to sugar babies in the media
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 08:19 AM
2

35 is really not that bad when having kids.35 year olds still have a good chance at pregnancy if they’re actually trying, and that’s not to mention the fact that a lot of women are having issues because of their weight diet and overall health, not age. a lot of the information we get from related studies is pretty old too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 08:18 AM
1

i mean you don’t have to prefer it to like it. relationships and casual sex are good for different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:27 AM
4

you completely disregarded most of my explanation. you can’t just explain it away by awalt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:58 AM
2

what makes you think that? the shaming of promiscuity leads women to have higher standards sexually. they’re told to hold out for something good. so they hold out for only the best. when you effectively tell your daughters from a young age that their pussy is gold, theyre going to eventually start to believe it. look at a country like iceland, their standards for promiscuity are much more equal than the united states, and women are known to make the first move there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 10:43 PM
1

what do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:23 PM
5

yes condoms can be used as well, but that doesn’t mean the other options are any less painful. using condoms alone is kind of a risk if you have sex enough. they kill everyone the same way, but women are more likely to be attacked walking alone. men are much less likely to be raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:23 PM
1

i think the “dating pool shrinking” is partially bc some women want a guy who makes more than her. just don’t have this qualification and it won’t really be an issue. the men who care about it aren’t the ones you’d want to date anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:20 PM
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i’m thankful for birth control, but the side effects are terrible, so yeah i wish for birth control for men too. if you experienced it you might feel the same way, wishing the birth control could be taken by someone else instead. it’s one thing to be jumpy on the street at night and it’s another to have to avoid it altogether. a woman walking alone at night is in more danger than a man in the same situation, regardless of how jumpy we feel
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 06:32 PM
5

no double standards from birth about promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 06:27 PM
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a lot of things are bad in a way that i can’t really quantify what’s worse. like having the responsibility of birth control being on me, because there are so many options for it with women, has been kinda hell on my body. not to mention the crime scene that happens once a month. but it honestly might not be worse than getting groped in a nightclub a bunch and not feeling as safe alone at night. i also dont really like the other people thinking i’m inferior
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:36 AM
1

in the united states
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:09 AM
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it’s definitely not a cultural universal. iceland does not tend to look down upon promiscuity in general, and there are groups of islanders who don’t either. not to mention the few groups that still practice the tradition of women marrying multiple husbands. yes, it’s still pretty widespread, but this doesn’t mean we’re biologically wired to feel this way. it could just as easily be a cultural thing ushered in by our environment years ago. women gaining more autonomy is still a relatively recent…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:09 AM
1

trouble can cause you to struggle. it’s still pedantic maybe you should look the word up. how is it that they can’t struggle? what’s funny is that you didn’t initially object to my usage of the word trouble. only when i made it clear i wanted you to further explain
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:57 PM
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when there is no longer a double standard for promiscuity and women and men are held to the same standards. look at iceland- women are not shamed for their sexuality anywhere near as much there, and women often make the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:53 AM
3

hell no
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:30 AM
0

no, if he’s crying on his own i’d feel honored he’d be vulnerable enough to do it in front of me. means i’m doing something right and making him feel safe
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:29 AM
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wouldn’t do it. don’t think it’s worth it imo. don’t think they’re bad people as a rule or anything either. i’d just sell foot pics or something instead if i was that in need of cash lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:04 AM
3

struggle, have trouble. they mean the same thing in this context dont be pedantic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:59 AM
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it’s a question. they can have trouble
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:08 AM
3

how can they not have trouble dating
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:34 AM
3

how
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 12:48 AM
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yes they can
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 12:24 AM
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more scientific? we can’t isolate evolution from socialization like this and just “know” it’s evolution. our environment once were born matters a lot in how we behave. some other countries like iceland don’t really shame promiscuity. you’re the one who’s being unscientific. you’re taking a seemingly logical supposition and equating it to the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 07:37 PM
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socialization. there are other countries, like iceland, where guys aren’t really disgusted by this. the dating culture is more equal there and women make the first move a lot too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 07:36 PM
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i haven’t agreed with you for other things but this is so true. we can’t isolate socialization and evolution and just KNOW it’s an evolutionary thing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 07:35 PM
1

that isnt the only thing OP was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 12:47 AM
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in other parts of the world that have a worse quality of life and generally less freedoms sure. you’re not going to really be able to tell how many penises have been in someone from sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 10:57 PM
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women above 25 can look just as young as women these ages. what does riding the cc have to do with you having sex with them? you can point to studies of visceral attraction all you want but it’s not the norm as far as what people actually do. i might find eighteen year olds hot when i’m a lot older but it doesn’t mean i have to go after pretty much kids
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 10:39 PM
3

i don’t think it’s quite normal. how is it “fresh”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 10:07 PM
3

ew
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:49 PM
5

older is a relative term. where i’m sitting at 20 years old, that’s older
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:47 PM
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when i was almost nineteen i was BARELY okay with beginning to date my freshly 22 year old boyfriend, and no amount of money could have made me change my mind about someone older. i’m a college student. not me or any of my friends would do it. we think older guys who go for people our age are weird, and we see them in the same way teenagers see real “adults”. we’re technically adults, but they’re like some form of second degree adult to us. i don’t really see many girls doing this. the ones who …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:43 PM
1

the american men girls typically like are the ones who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:40 PM
1

and you know this how?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:40 PM
1

there are american men who have actual egalitarian beliefs and prefer them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:33 PM
1

elaborate? can you at least see how it’s a leap
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:32 PM
0

have fun only calling out “clapbacks” to insults instead of at least also calling out the person who made the insult in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:32 PM
2

you’ve gone a bit far in assuming all american women are a certain way to begin with so
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:31 PM
1

if that’s the route you’re going the equivalent with incel insults would be “i can get sex, you can’t” “you’re looking for a submissive doormat” may imply they’re strong and independent, but does that imply it’s their only trait of value? no. it’s a leap.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:29 PM
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that’s you. other people have a right to fire back if they want. it’s not my method of choice either but i see where the urge comes from
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:26 PM
1

op did not really “use statistics”. he made a huge generalization and reaffirmed that he was likely talking about every american woman because “it doesn’t matter how loving they are”. stooping to another persons level still leaves you off better than they are. he made the first insult. why didn’t you say the same to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:25 PM
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guys with those attitudes don’t tend to care about their characters being insulted by a woman. insulting the guy based on not being able to get pussy in no way implies that pussy is her only worth. it’s a huge leap
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:22 PM
1

so be precise about what you mean. do you mean that american men are more accepting of being egalitarian despite not wanting it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:20 PM
1

then answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:17 PM
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it’s simple. guy has attitudes that are common in incels, she thinks he may be an incel. incels don’t like being incels. so it’s an insult. has nothing to do with her value
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:17 PM
1

i know enough from what you’re saying here. you’re not the kind of american guy these girls will fawn over
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:15 PM
1

they’re a bit conflicting. if men don’t want them, how do american men want them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:14 PM
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so which foreign women are you talking about? no doubt it’s some impoverished nation with women who will hold you to a lower standard because things aren’t great for them where they are
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:13 PM
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“men don’t want egalitarian relationships”, yet you said american men are more egalitarian. really seeming like you’re not that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:11 PM
1

but you’re not one of these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:10 PM
14

american men are fat at high rates too. we’re in this together
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:08 PM
1

they make these insults because they feel like that’s what these guys care about. doesn’t mean it’s their only value
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:06 PM
3

so did OP. how are you not getting it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:06 PM
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you realize he called american women out in this post saying some pretty nasty things about them? if she’s an american woman he insulted her first
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:05 PM
2

how do they cum then?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:03 PM
2

then just don’t have sex if it feels like nothing anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:15 PM
1

i’m sure it doesn’t feel like that for everyone. otherwise why would people use them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:13 PM
2

or you can do that with partners you trust enough but if you wanna do it with someone else you can do it with a condom. no reason to shit on condoms theyre helpful in a lot of ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:00 PM
2

still an unnecessary risk unless you’re both recently tested and you actually know the person pretty well lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:52 PM
2

“fake condomsex” lmaoo tell me you have an std without telling me you have an std
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:44 PM
0

not a very strong urge, just a general sentiment of “the grass might be greener”. wanting to try other things in early relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:00 AM
1

well i wouldn’t know. but i actually don’t think i got that. i barely remember it because it was so long ago so i can’t tell if i did. the feeling i remember most is just “holy shit this is awesome i should do this every day multiple times a day”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:57 AM
4

can’t relate at all that sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:44 AM
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exactly. hot guys have girls going crazy. maybe those guys he’s describing just have terrible personalities?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:19 AM
0

then maybe we should stop suppressing female sexuality from a young age. a lot of the problems men have with dating can be linked to that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:16 AM
1

yeah i didnt really look at anything else they said lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:07 PM
1

if you went by a certain interpretation sure. my interpretation of what they were saying was partially influenced by the fact that it’s kind of a self evident fact that biology influences our behavior- so i assumed they wouldn’t be so dumb as to completely rule it out for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:43 PM
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not at all. a biological explanation could be interpreted as an explanation that is only biological. you’re getting caught up on the word abandon when it’s really the other part that causes confusion. there are explanations that include biology that wouldn’t be very accurate to call “biological” because other parts are key components as well. if i was eating neapolitan i wouldn’t say i’m just eating strawberry ice cream. similarly, you could “abandon” strawberry for neapolitan.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:03 PM
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but that’s the thing. it’s not an essay prompt. it’s a comment on reddit. they’re not going to have the same careful wording as an essay prompt. in regular conversation things can mean different things than strict prompts for college essays. regardless, i was just sharing how believing 100% either way is ridiculous. doesn’t even matter what the first person meant
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 05:58 PM
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i have guy friends who ask me for favors that i’ve never asked anything of. it depends
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 05:52 PM
3

exactly. can’t be close to one you’re also attracted to while dating
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 05:51 PM
1

not some guys
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 05:49 PM
1

abandoning entirely biological explanations doesn’t mean you abandon explanations with elements if biology
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 05:45 PM
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“a biological explanation” could mean one that only involves biology. it’s clear how it could be interpreted differently
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 04:47 PM
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i didnt really see it as them abandoning biology. “abandoning biological explanations for dating behavior” can just mean to abandon explanations that are solely biology. either way i wanted to bring forth the idea that these people who are 100% sure, no matter which about, don’t see the whole picture
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 03:34 PM
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yes but it’s a little ridiculous to be 100% sure about some of these things like a lot of people are. they don’t question their preconceived notions a lot. it’s just “how it is”. even though different societies and cultures do it differently
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 03:20 PM
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they don’t abandon them as a possibility no, but some things may be almost entirely socialization. take slut shaming for example. plenty of men from countries like iceland think it’s wild. they have a more equal dating culture there. women approaching men is so commonplace there. i do think all humans have a propensity to not like their partner having past partners, but socialization can cause it to be little to none, if it’s done right. i think believing it’s definitely biology sets you up for …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 03:12 PM
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doesn’t prove what’s biological or not. a lot is socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:40 PM
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it’s personality and mannerisms. these guys act a certain really attractive way to some women in movies. if a woman saw adam driver and he acted the same cool rehearsed way he does in movies they’d be attracted to him in another situation too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 05:55 AM
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god i want a bang maid :(
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:31 AM
3

so where’s the proof? you can’t at least back up the claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:15 AM
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source for men making better leaders? just because men have more often been the leaders doesn’t make them better ones. they’ve had a physical strength advantage that can’t be ignored. but regardless, your “job = submission” argument doesn’t work on its own. it’s a bad argument. you can really deny it all you want but i think deep down we both know the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:08 AM
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okay and i’m going off on what i’ve seen too. being their friend isn’t the only part of the strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:05 AM
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LMAO are you dense? we don’t live the same life. i’ve SEEN it work first hand multiple times. kinda get the vibe you’re not very familiar with women so how would you know what works
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:51 AM
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so men shouldn’t say they hate the idea of submitting to their wives. ok got it cool
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:10 PM
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lmao i’m absolutely not talking about being yourself. i’m talking about putting up a specific front it’s the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:09 PM
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so… don’t be against submitting to women if you’ll do it for money. my whole point is that it’s just a terrible argument lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:01 PM
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did i say it worked every time? no. i had guy friends i wouldn’t have liked otherwise and guess what happened? i advised a guy i know on this as well and guess what? it worked
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:00 PM
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the standard is lowered by not going with people who can have productive conversations and compromises with you. it’s more like a parent child dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:58 PM
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that’s not true whatsoever lol. wake up. maybe you aren’t doing it right. you might be accidentally still making it obvious that you like these girls. girls can tell a lot of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:50 PM
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you’re not saying you’re finding incompatible women, but it’s a lower standard of compatibility to just find someone who will go with whatever even if they don’t agree, rather than someone who can actually have open dialogues and is already on the same page about a lot of things. if you have these things, it’s not necessary to find someone who will submit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:49 PM
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you argued that it’s weird women don’t want to submit to husbands when they’re willing to submit to an employer. i simply took your logic and applied it to the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:47 PM
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kind of a cop out imo. not being able to find someone compatible enough with decisions so just finding someone who will comply with everything even if they don’t like it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:39 PM
1

you’re not doing it right then. i’ve seen it work. people want what they think they can’t have. a guy not liking them is intriguing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:37 PM
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getting a little aggressive here aren’t we. don’t knock it til you try it. it has to be done right- they still have to be aware that you like girls. i’ve seen it work multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:31 PM
1

that’s why you do it with multiple women. it’s not going to work on every one, but it’s going to work if you do it enough
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:20 PM
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that’s not a compromise. it’s not a matter of opinion that’s just by definition not a compromise
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:03 PM
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then every man who works a regular nine to five should be fine submitting to his wife because he didn’t create his own business
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:28 PM
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if you disagree then by definition you don’t want him being the one to make that specific decision. you can come to a compromise or agreement on the vast majority of issues. if you’re not compatible with your partner enough to come to good compromises you guys picked terribly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:26 PM
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oh you can be proud of it for sure, but if “not submitting” is why, then that’s a bit ridiculous. let’s follow the logic- not my logic- your logic that i used against you. you do not submit the least amount possible. for one, i’m sure there are people with other businesses that submit even less than you. two, you could avoid submitting altogether if you just went and lived off the land. so why don’t you do that, in order to do it the smallest amount possible right? you used it as an argument for…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:24 PM
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we’re having fun. are you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:12 PM
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or here’s an idea, be compatible enough to work through disagreements instead of having to choose one person as “leader” for when you just can’t agree. it’s avoiding issues
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:11 PM
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this is so hilarious to me. get off the “i own a business” high horse lmaoo. the vast majority of men are “submitting” to a boss. unless you own the world, you’re submitting to somebody or something. you must not pay taxes right then mr alpha male?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:09 PM
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bang maid sounds pretty nice on second thought
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:05 PM
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a group of two people doesn’t require a leader. that’s a parent/child dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:04 PM
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if these shit tests are to ward off guys with your attitudes about “compliance” then maybe i should start doing them lmao. obviously joking- shit tests like this are immature. i’ll just have to find some other way to keep guys like that away
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:03 PM
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dating someone of lower income just makes me the baller. i don’t think i’d date someone unattractive but if i like them enough to date them then i’m not gonna see them as lesser. their status doesn’t have much to do with me anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:33 PM
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this isn’t proof of shit. what one guy does isn’t proof of female behavior as a whole. it just proves that these nine women would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:57 PM
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yes let’s blame women for men being shitty! good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 06:45 AM
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yeah it’s just funny when i see comments like that. i’m like whoops
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 06:23 AM
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what does this have to do with the fact that it can be anyone? you think they deserve it or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 06:22 AM
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some sexist guys can get SOME women. it doesn’t mean women in general swarm them. but yeah it can. why are you acting like this is a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 06:09 AM
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um no. it’s just that it can be anyone. idk why you’re turning this into some weird joke like you don’t believe it can happen or something. you never really know with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 05:47 AM
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i thought you were joking about the nerd guy being more dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 05:35 AM
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oh god not murder. he was still bad though. it can really be anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 05:31 AM
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the nerd guy was in my chess club. you don’t want to know what he tried to do
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 05:26 AM
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um, no. that was the entire point of my comment. why else would i be saying it’s not a big concern. why would i just say some vague shit and refuse to elaborate lmaoo. i didnt edit it girly pop
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:55 AM
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me who started dating a 22 year old at eighteen reading your comment lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:42 AM
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no, what did you think it said?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:40 AM
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nobody really “needs” it to survive. it’s more of a maslows hierarchy of needs type deal; it just results in greater fulfillment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:39 AM
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greedy leopard is thoughtful
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:38 AM
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the differing behaviors you’ve mentioned. the slut shaming the attitudes towards sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:37 AM
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but good further clarification i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:36 AM
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yes that’s literally what i’m saying lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:36 AM
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would be a dealbreaker for me eventually. i mean maybe i’d have my fun with them, but there are benefits you get with being married so i might eventually just move on. in most situations i wouldn’t have any qualms about signing a prenup though so
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:44 AM
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it’s not a very big concern. statistically fathers are less likely to get custody after a divorce yes, but that’s not the whole picture. it’s because fathers are less likely to even TRY to get custody of their children. when they do try, they’re given custody a majority of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:42 AM
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data? but also you’ve failed to provide evidence that this is biological, so i guess it doesn’t really matter
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:38 AM
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yeah. outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:35 AM
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yeah those people are outliers anyway though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:22 AM
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the horniest person in the world is such an outlier that they’ve probably got something medically wrong with them, not necessarily a man or woman, but this is so not related to what we were talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:17 AM
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yeah it’s the time of thing that would take some time to take hold. good place to start is either stop telling little girls to suppress their sexuality from a young age, or start telling little boys to as well. iceland is pretty equal in this regard. they don’t really care for slut shaming, and women often make the first move
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:15 AM
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you’re the one with the claim. find me a reliable source and i’ll believe you. everyone’s bedroom situation is different. if you look at r/deadbedrooms about fifty percent of the high libido people complaining there are women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:24 AM
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where is all of this coming from? how do you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:20 AM
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then how do you know they will tire of it faster? you’re just making baseless claims. these statements ARE claims. you’re telling me the “reasons why” but these reasons are NOT proven. i’m not saying you have to outright agree with me. it just doesnt make sense to not be open to the possibility. if you can mention actual proof that would be nice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:40 PM
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yeah if we’re talking about teenage rejection i have a whole list of that and i’m a woman lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:37 PM
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that’s fucked up im sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:36 PM
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that’s crazy because a guy wrote me a poem in middle school too for half a second i thought you might be him lmaoo. but then i read the rest. i just kept the poem and thought it was nice lol. felt bad that i didn’t like him but my friend liked him anyway. i can’t imagine being mean about it that’s so fucked up. especially in middle school
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:34 PM
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i don’t know i actually don’t think i’ve needed it nearly as much as my partners have. i’d like some but it’s not as bad on my self esteem to not get it as it is on them. i don’t think it’s necessarily about being built different- i think society is just really harsh on men’s emotions in general and makes some of them accept less than they really need. really represses them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:28 PM
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idk it’s hard to say. i know my experience isn’t everyone’s but all of my friends are really reassuring to the people they date. i don’t really know girls who aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:19 PM
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you’re the one making claims that it’s biological. you have ZERO proof to back it up, and i used iceland as a counter example to your argument on biology. YOU have made some pretty hefty claims with no proof. all i did was suggest possible solutions to something that is very likely a cultural phenomenon. what the fuck are you talking about. you haven’t even had sex dude. you don’t know who’s going to get tired of sex when. you haven’t experienced it. you’re just making ridiculous generalizations…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:03 PM
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this has been the opposite of my experience. most men i’ve dated haven’t really known how to give reassurance that well. i didn’t need it that much, but it would have been a nice comfort. on the flip side, i’ve always been extremely supportive and reassuring to the people i’ve dated
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:51 PM
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i really don’t mind dating a guy with low self esteem. i don’t know why you think women do. maybe i’m just not seeing it. as long as his self esteem isn’t causing terrible problems like really reckless behavior it’s not a big deal. my bf has low self esteem and i reassure him all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:49 PM
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i can say whatever i want and claim it’s a fact. you don’t even have any proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:47 PM
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ew
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:43 PM
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it seems like reality is even worse than i thought if you’re saying what i think
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:42 PM
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lmao. i was talking about the refractory period that’s exactly what i’m talking about. there’s no rule that says the horniest woman can’t be hornier than the horniest man. people vary so much. “fact based reality” LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:39 PM
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more attractive in comparison matters. if there were no more attractive men on earth women would start going for the ugly guys and there would be new standards for “attractive”. style and hygiene can definitely be enough for some. i’ve known multiple people who didn’t get with a guy just because of his hygiene. it’s really not that common for men to keep up with themselves that well
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:37 PM
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women have less of a recovery time before they can orgasm again. the horniest woman could be hornier than the horniest man, even if on average men are hornier. it’s still the case. i don’t know what world you live in but there’s definitely a huge portion of the population that’s still like that. not only pressure from your family, but societal pressure and the negative stigma around “whores” shapes people. “men being men” isn’t an issue. but let women be women as well
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:31 PM
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if that’s not the case, and women aren’t expected to be capable, then it’s very insulting to women. it’s infantilizing and i wouldn’t exactly call it “beneficial”. when you look at the bigger picture, it’s shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:29 PM
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a lot of the women you think aren’t wearing makeup really are, just natural looking makeup. style can do a lot for men because most men don’t really have it. whereas with makeup, girls just look like every other bitch. men have an advantage in the sense that other men aren’t doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:27 PM
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you’re probably right lmao. personally would love to see it. i just love men doing a lot of different things
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:25 PM
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oh my god it’s like you’re agreeing with my point without actually agreeing. yes, women are raised from birth to hold off on sex. men going after sex more than women is a huge part of the issue. we inhibit women’s sexuality from a young age. as someone who wasnt raised in that traditional mindset, it’s pretty obvious to me. my sexuality has not been inhibited at a young age as much as other women. and i want sex just as much if not more than a lot of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:24 PM
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pretty sure you’re expected to be capable at your job regardless. it doesn’t really benefit both.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:21 PM
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because so many women wear makeup it’s become pretty much the status quo. next to all the people who wear makeup a woman who doesn’t is going to look worse in comparison. so yes, we’re all but expected to. because so many men don’t take care of how they look, it’s easier for a man to stand out style-wise among other men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:12 PM
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it’s not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:07 PM
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they prefer hot women. makeup makes you look hotter
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:06 PM
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yeah uh… yeah no one wants them to uh… yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:05 PM
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you don’t think women try to manipulate men into continuing to sleep with them? women do not always lead with emotion for casual hookups. the girls who are told to “wait for someone special” DO lead with emotion. this is part of the issue. if they’re not told that sex is so special, they’re less likely to lead with emotion. why not give the same advice to women? making men work hard to access their emotions. men sleep with toxic girls who make their life garbage all the time as well. it just dep…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:02 PM
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women have fomo when they marry as a virgin as well. throughout a woman’s life she’s going to see a lot of men she wants to have sex with as well. if that’s your argument for a woman waiting, men should wait too. you don’t think men can get baggage from having a lot of partners? it works pretty much the same way. you just think it’s “best” for women to do this because of archaic puritanical values that you think are biology
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:43 PM
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no he’s actually obese and no they don’t use him for money whatsoever. don’t get me wrong i was as surprised as you are at first
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:38 PM
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if we as a society shifted the attitudes towards male and female sexuality to a more equal place. not telling women from a young age to “hold out for a special guy”. OR, also telling men from a young age to “hold out for a special girl”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:30 PM
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but he doesn’t just get one woman he gets multiple. so the difference lies with him. it’s likely something with his personality. he’s not rich or anything
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:28 PM
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not really, they mostly dated men who weren’t that big.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:21 PM
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we’re talking about fixing the dating market for the men who are at a disadvantage. the things i’ve listed would help.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:20 PM
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relationships involve sex. they aren’t going to date him just to remain celibate. ive known girls who had sex with him too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:03 PM
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yes but there’s an issue with the same stigma not being placed on men. it’s a cultural thing. it’s not necessarily biology. what i’m trying to explain to you is that these uneven stigmas is what makes the dating market uneven. we would be better off with the stigmas being the same for both. more people would get what they want. i’m not saying we should all just fuck anything that moves. but if we’re going to try to make women limit their sexual expression, we should do it for men as well, otherw…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:02 PM
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no, i know a guy who’s obese, but women i know have even had crushes on him because he’s really nice and funny. personality can make things better too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:51 PM
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yes exactly, the issue that’s causing both parties to be unhappy is the fact that there’s a stigma around women having multiple partners. why should the same stigma not be placed on men? and that’s not been my experience. in my opinion, ive only really dated hot people, and they didn’t care so much about the number of people i’d been with. in fact, my second boyfriend wished that i had just had a lot of casual sex instead of a long relationship. he had casual sex with a few people before me, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:49 PM
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people have sex with “unattractive” people all the time. personality can make things even worse
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:43 PM
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why is it a problem for women and not men? i’d like to make it clear- i’m not advocating for people to be promiscuous or not, just that men and women being held to the same standards is more conducive to an equal “fair” dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:23 PM
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yeah that’s what i said. what are you talking about? that’s part of the issue. it’s not a huge movement though lmao. i’m going to find someone who wants to be with me regardless. i was talking about how it’s not the same in iceland. a lot of women can sniff out opinions like this when they’re getting to know a person. this may potentially be part of the reason why you still have your virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:20 PM
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yes and the people there are fine with high count for both relationships and casual things. sure, you can say women are becoming more traditionally “masculine”, or we can just accept that masculinity is beginning to mean something different than it did before. some of these archaic systems aren’t necessary anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:05 PM
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well it’s seen as masculine to be able to have sex with many women. they have sex with a lot of women and also relationships with women with high counts. the same social stigmas just aren’t there. virginity isn’t prized there the way it sometimes is in the us. it doesn’t make them betas or lvm. it’s just how things are there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:03 PM
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these men in iceland can also be traditionally “masculine” in other ways. they get sex with plenty of women. wouldn’t you argue that’s a “masculine” trait? you can’t apply our “rules” to an entirely different system. it isn’t non masculine over there to get with women with high counts
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:42 PM
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what it means to be a man in some cultures is changing. our societies no longer require brute strength to function in. why is this an inherently bad thing? there will still be strong “masculine” people, but either way, masculinity doesn’t have to mean you want a low n count partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:40 PM
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without slut shaming the way it’s used in the united states.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:14 PM
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exactly. stereotypical and traditional. this does NOT mean biologically ingrained. it means different things to different people. ask someone in iceland what a masculine man is and they’ll probably give a very different answer than you. these things are not proven to be not culturally influenced. if they weren’t then why would cultures exist without it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:13 PM
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why do entire cultures exist without this then? it does not. make. sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:08 PM
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i’m asking you to define it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:06 PM
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you seem hell bent on putting things into a societally manufactured dichotomy of “masculine” and “feminine”. facial hair, large muscles, and testicles are masculine. a lot of the other things you claim to be inherently masculine are societal constructs. “it’s just the way things are” isn’t a very good argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:05 PM
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define masculine
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:03 PM
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again, HOW do you explain iceland then? also no, these values are not present in every society nor have they been for all of history. puritanical values from certain religious institutions took hold years ago and influenced how things are. “nurture” matters a lot more than you think
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:44 PM
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again, how do you explain the culture of iceland then? there is at the very least a strong correlation here that you’re not seeing. women do not always want a relationship first. some of them take a relationship first because our society has told women since they were very young that their sexuality is a “prize” and must be protected. this sentiment isn’t present in iceland, so the dating is more equal there. all of this stuff is interconnected and influences each other factor. women want sex. t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:41 PM
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it’s a different culture over there. the men don’t slut shame them because they’re not grossed out by women with higher body counts. they don’t care as much about a woman’s sexual history. this disgust with women with high body counts is a mostly cultural thing. it can be unlearned. i myself at one time was grossed out by men who were not virgins. i worked really hard, and it took a lot of effort, but i was able to mostly unlearn it. had i been born a man and just been told “it’s biology”, maybe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:27 PM
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a lot of women want relationship first BECAUSE of this slut shaming culture we have. they’re looked down on for casual sex. men as a whole in our society could fix this by either holding themselves to the same standards they set for the women they want to be with (holding out sex for a relationship), or stopping slut shaming, or a bit of both
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:20 PM
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yes and this is likely due to the sexual attitudes being different. women being less restricted in sex means they have a broader pool of people they’ll have sex with, which makes guys act less desperate, which makes things more equal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:17 PM
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i really don’t think as many women have an afbb strategy as you think. i prefer relationships with attractive guys i very much want to have sex with. why would i date them otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:03 PM
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they have things easy in some ways because our culture has made it difficult in others. men, in part, create the problem. shaming women with high body counts yet also wanting to be able to get with a woman is a bit counterintuitive, at least if you’re not going to hold yourself to the same standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:01 PM
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that’s my point. the shaming is why a lot of women don’t see some of these guys as an option. things would be more equal if this didn’t happen as much
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 04:55 PM
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also what do you mean about iceland
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 04:35 PM
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of course you won’t slut shame her to her if you want to get with her. but women know that people talk. women know what happens if word gets around. just because you won’t do it to her doesn’t mean she’s not thinking about how society will perceive her by sleeping with more people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 04:35 PM
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being seen by some men as not dating material. being talked about behind their backs and seen as “disgusting” as you put it. as a result we have women with a stifled sexuality who only accept very few men, because it’s “worth it” with a man hot enough. this makes men even more desperate, which allows women to raise their standards as much as they want. the cycle feeds off itself in a positive feedback loop. there are more relaxed sexual attitudes about women in iceland, and in iceland it’s actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 04:25 PM
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i more mean men as a whole. if men as a whole increased their sexual standards, and didnt shame women with high body counts, it would be a more equal market out there. women keep their sexual standards higher, in part, because of the consequences if they don’t. and you’re not very well going to have a relationship with someone you won’t even have sex with, so the relationship standards follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 04:08 PM
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hard to believe this when men are constantly coming on here saying men only get in relationships for consistent sex, and if a guy could have unlimited casual sex he would.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:59 PM
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if men wanna fix this, maybe 1. raise sexual standards, and 2. stop looking down on women with a high body count. it’s paradoxical really. as a man you do things so counterintuitive to your goals
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:56 PM
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boohoo. still nothing compared to what women went through before feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:47 PM
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married men experience this as well. it can be hard to keep up the spark. if you look at r/deadbedrooms the gender composition is pretty even there
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:46 PM
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yeah like we’re too stupid and not self aware enough to know
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:05 PM
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be friends first. and don’t show any initial attraction if you have it. this is how a lot of women end up with much uglier guys. they get to know them as people, and they’re shocked that the guy isn’t automatically trying to hook up with them. people want what they can’t have, and with a woman who is used to getting attention, you have the advantage there. it isn’t going to work on every woman, so don’t have your heart set on a specific one necessarily. make a lot of female friends
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:42 PM
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we’re talking about net positive impact. he may have helped YOU a lot but not men in general- he’s scamming people
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:57 PM
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even with some of these traits there are cultures that don’t always go along with it. take a country like iceland for example. it’s actually very common for women to pursue men there and make the first move. it’s a bit more equal there in regards to who is choosing and pursuing also, everyone is attracted to youth, though culture might be stifling it in some cases for women. there’s definitely a wide range of biological expression that nurture influences to be a certain way. but yes a lot of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:42 PM
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not every man can be rich. that’s not helping men in general
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:20 PM
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i’ve never understood the idea that only women children and dogs are loved unconditionally. have you looked at statistics involving people diagnosed with a terminal illness? husbands were found to be SIX TIMES more likely than wives to initiate divorce after their spouse has been diagnosed. kinda sounds like more women are loving men unconditionally. it’s hard to be a woman too. they are not automatically loved by all. having random weird people wanting to fuck you doesn’t make your life easier.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:13 PM
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yes but, we don’t know everything about our behaviors because it’s impossible to entirely separate biology from cultural influence. some of these differences could very well be cultural. biology sets the limits and the rest decides where we fall within those limits. so i just mean to say that those people who say “it must be biology” about everything aren’t necessarily right
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:04 PM
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lol, not only that, some people will speak for thr other gender as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 07:13 AM
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and every species has different male and female behaviors, so you don’t really get to pick which animals you think our behavior is modeled after
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 07:12 AM
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yeah for some people it’s definitely an internalized male gaze thing. they look at themselves from the eyes of a man and are disappointed when they don’t like it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:41 AM
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for some of these things, it’s not always directly for the attraction of men, just the subconscious (or conscious) desire to be accepted in general in society. feeling attractive doesn’t always mean you want others to actually look. i’ve worn flattering clothes because they “attract” myself in a sense, because they look appealing to me and i like looking at myself when i wear them. but i actually don’t like people looking at me like that normally. i feel like for some people, they wear makeup to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:39 AM
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but, you have no proof of the lack of respect and decency in the court systems. the fact is that if a parent cares enough many of them will try to see their kids, even if the odds are stacked against them, which we don’t even have proof of
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:55 AM
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you’re the one who said there is bias in family courts towards mothers. statistics CAN prove that. we can assume that a society that treats fatherhood as “optional” and motherhood as a necessity is going to allow men who don’t want responsibility to exercise their “freedoms” more, leaving women alone to bear the burden. doesn’t sound like a misandrist system to me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:32 AM
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kinda their fault then. if you care about your kids enough you’ll at least want to try. the stats don’t even reflect it so how do we know for sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:23 AM
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no there are legitimately articles i’ve seen where studies showed that men who actually did try received custody even more often than the mom. our culture putting more importance on the mother as a parent only serves to put more of the burden on the mom. if a dad wants to be there, he can, but he’s not being wronged by the fact that society just doesn’t have as harsh expectations of him. if anything, it just gives him more freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:13 AM
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i did google it. all i’m seeing are articles that actually show men are more likely to be granted custody if they actually petition for it. and the reason for the discrepancy being that men don’t typically try for custody in the first place. i don’t think supporting actual abortion yet not supporting a mans choice in the matter is necessarily rooted in hate. i think it’s just differing morals in regards of what’s best for everyone. once a child is actually in the world liberals tend to believe t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:56 AM
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can i see some sources about the custody thing? i agree with paper abortions, especially if a father makes it clear from the beginning he doesn’t want a child. but it’s not just men who are being stifled in their reproductive rights. abortion restrictions are happening as well, and it’s conservatives pushing it. if abortion isn’t allowed, i don’t really think we should allow the other either
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:46 AM
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um yeah one reason. if by “kill babies” you mean terminate early term pregnancies. but there’s also just the fact that conservatives are more likely to be sexist and just hate women in general. obviously nowhere near all of them are. plenty of great conservatives in my family. but if someone is telling me they hope i get raped in a comment section, any time i’ve looked at their account and could tell, they’re a conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:42 AM
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men are physically stronger so they had the ability to exert physical control and establish a societal order early on, even if it wasn’t a beneficial one. do you think the women liked it when their husbands chose to lobotomize them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:37 AM
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men still make up the vast majority of every branch of government. if any laws are infringing on men’s rights they’re created by men. whats the issue in the family court system? a huge difference in men and women is the fact that women have to be the ones to carry children. there’s no “equal” way to do it that doesn’t sacrifice bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:35 AM
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but early feminism was a movement primarily pushed by a minority of women. not sure feminism would have taken hold the way it did had women not initially rebelled
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:29 AM
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yes and the other side pushes women away. that’s the point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:27 AM
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my “assumptions” are genuine concerns with the credibility of the article. peer reviewed studies don’t typically vanish from the internet, and even if they did, you’d think you could find at a least ONE other credible source. for something to have sufficient evidence i’d like to see at least a few peer reviewed sources. even one would be better than nothing. i feel like you’re the one making assumptions. you’re believing something without any real evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:37 PM
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a single article. nothing else on it. doesn’t sound like it comes from a peer reviewed study or a very credible source if you can’t find anything on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:20 PM
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so no credible articles on pair bonding being ruined. no proof so why do you believe it definitively
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:08 PM
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maybe men in general are less open so it doesn’t inspire openness in other men. i don’t know. fact is they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:17 PM
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not at all. i’m very close with all of them and these same people will discuss deep topics with me and complain how they feel weird and awkward doing it with their male friends. they have deeper talks when the other guys aren’t around. if they didn’t want me to be there for the deeper talks they probably would make a second groupchat without me. it’s not just from my observation- these guys actually tell me they don’t have deeper talks with other guys. multiple have told me they think women have…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:30 PM
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it’s taken me a long time to try to unlearn my visceral disgust for men with a lot of sexual partners but you people are almost making me think i might as well just say fuck it since nobody seems interested in doing the work like i did lmao. if i attributed mine to biology i might have had a scapegoat and never would have cared to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:13 PM
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a few hundred years ago, “the sky is blue because god painted it blue” might have been a pretty obvious answer to some. a seemingly logical supposition is not the same as truth. it’s not an “easy” question to answer we don’t have the truth of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:07 PM
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source?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:04 PM
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the only women who form emotional connections with one night stands are the crazy bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:58 PM
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someone with sense in this sub? i don’t buy it. exactly how i feel about it. there’s no proof it’s an evolutionary thing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:57 PM
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well put. culture and biology are so intertwined. nature sets limits and nurture determines where you fall within them. these people saying it’s an automatic biological response are a bit ridiculous. it’s not proven. they’re just taking a seemingly logical supposition and calling it proof without all the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:52 PM
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a man being able to do so is alright. a man actually doing it a lot- not really attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:47 PM
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yeah i’ve noticed this so much. i’ve interacted with a lot of male groups and they really don’t tend to get deep and personal with each other that often. like their conversations are so surface level and they don’t really get as vulnerable. i’ve noticed that when interacting with these groups, some of these guys will get more vulnerable with me than any of the others. i don’t know if it’s out of fear or what, but some of my male friends feel closer to me than they feel to any of the people in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:31 PM
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i probably have a higher libido every day than most people but when i’m single i just get off myself a lot it doesn’t bother me that much
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:24 PM
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women are typically closer with their friends and have emotional support elsewhere. a lot of guys only get it from their girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:21 PM
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it means nothing that our wants align. plenty of guys would like to trade places with him. i wouldn’t want to be where he is whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:28 AM
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why is that relevant? i’m not talking about what andrew wants i’m talking about what i want. he’s funny looking and low iq
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:47 PM
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what are you even talking about? this is some crazy tangent. did i say they were the majority? NO. look back to all my comments and realize you’re not even responding to anything i said. you don’t HAVE to pay for sex to be desperate for it. no shit. but if you’re paying for sex you’re automatically desperate for it. promiscuity doesn’t mean you’re necessarily desperate for it. you might still be, but the fact that you’re promiscuous alone isnt enough to tell i “keep bringing it up” because you’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:51 PM
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and my point is that it’s seen as even more normal for men to sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:15 PM
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sheltered? i didn’t even say women didn’t do it. i just said being promiscuous doesn’t necessarily mean you’re that desperate for sex. when you pay for it you automatically are. some of you are so fucking dense and it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:14 PM
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not for sure desperate enough to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:08 PM
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i’m just saying that this isn’t anywhere near a representative sample. for one, people with autism are definitely hugely over represented here. and people with dating issues as well of course. not everyone has this hard of a time dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:22 PM
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yeah i know, but if there’s one thing HUGELY over represented here, it’s autism. and in rp spaces in general
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:12 PM
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i don’t think this place really portrays how things are lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:06 PM
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exactlyyy the few times i’ve gotten carried away they just remove my comment, i take a step back and i’m like yeahhhh you’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:04 PM
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autism*
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:02 PM
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idk a lot of my friends are gay and they have loving monogamous long relationships. gay guys still get married and adopt kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:39 PM
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i was thinking the same but then your friends and are going to move on with relationships and stop making you a priority so you won’t be as important to them as they are to you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:38 PM
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lmaooo sour grapes. i wouldn’t trade places with andrew tate for all the money in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:36 PM
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god. only moderately attractive. i feel like i’d want to say the second one now, but then regret it so much later. taking care of future me i guess maybe i should say the first. i want someone there when i’m old. and all my friends are going to find partners and put them above me eventually anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:35 PM
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the whole picture matters. i wouldn’t say n count in general holds much weight unless it’s like 100s. for instance, current partner was with 15 people before me. he’s a couple years older for one, and we’re both young so who knows if i would have had that number at his age. it bothered me at first. i tend to prefer someone with a similar number to me because i feel weird and insecure otherwise. but then i learned that over half of those were from one summer when he had just turned sixteen(fiftee…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:07 PM
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i think it’s a matter of looking desperate. being promiscuous doesnt necessarily mean you went to every length you can to have sex. i think it either matters or it doesn’t depending on who you ask and it should be the same for both
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:57 PM
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exactly. it’s an extreme used to illustrate the fact that the likelihood MATTERS just like the consequence matters. it seems you’re starting to get my point. or maybe you still can’t see it lmao. you can’t always tell. just because you can SOMETIMES tell doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty of other crazy people who can hide it. they HIDE it. you can’t tell when you can’t tell, so how can you be sure you can tell when the times people hide it you simply don’t see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:32 PM
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NOBODY can tell who a person really is from one night of knowing them. so i guess no men should hook up. again, two aspects of risk. consequence and likelihood you risk your life every day you go out of the house. it’s a very tiny chance but still a risk nonetheless. the likelihood matters. not just the possible consequences. i assume you don’t drive on interstates whatsoever because you’re more likely to die on it right? you also didn’t get your wisdom teeth removed i’m sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:26 PM
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you can’t know if they’re idiotic or crazy from a single day knowing them. but you’re not looking at both aspects of risk. there’s: the likelihood that something will go wrong, and the consequences if it does. if a woman does everything right in regards to birth control and the hookup, she has virtually no chance of getting pregnant. and, within that very tiny nugget of chance she does get pregnant there’s an even smaller chance she’ll die from the procedure. a .0000 something chance. all in all…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:20 PM
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that’s why i said maybe be careful in texas if it’s a hookup you don’t really know the person. there’s NO way to know how the girl is with her birth control or even if she’s ovulating unless you’re the girl. all a guy can do is take someone’s word for it, and people lie all the time. women have the option to not bring an unwanted kid into the world. men don’t have the same guarantee
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:10 PM
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not all of them even want it in real life. i’m sure these girls who don’t like getting approached can meet other men. a lot of people like to start out as friends first
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:08 PM
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it’s not usually an invasive surgery unless you’re really irresponsible and wait a long time to get one. i mean sometimes people wait for other reasons but it also depends on the state you live in. if it’s early on enough you just take some pills and have what feels like a heavy period. i wouldn’t go having casual sex if i lived in texas that’s for sure. but, condoms and birth control exist. as a woman you have control of the birth control you take. whereas a guy can only take a womans word for …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:04 PM
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i think it’s usually because they like the illusion of not having control, not actually not having it. they can still decide exactly what they imagine for these fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:00 PM
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yeah and tasting different kinds of pussies is even more acceptable for the father of your children. even weirder. what a strange world we live in
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:57 PM
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i see reasons all the time. a lot of the workers are under age/exploited. most porn websites don’t crack down on that stuff enough. there are trafficked girls in videos on pornhub. not to mention the fact that it can make you less focused on your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:54 PM
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i’d argue that risk of pregnancy is kind of a worse thing for the guy in a way. if you’re a woman and don’t want it you can abort it. guys have no say in if it’s aborted or not
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:51 PM
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traditional norms would make me miserable. i’m doing what will make me happy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:49 PM
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thought so lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:48 PM
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oh you didn’t hear? source: i said so
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:47 PM
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source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:45 PM
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yeahh vast majority of homeless women are raped. i’d so rather be a homeless man
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:41 PM
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the horribly flimsy justification for the double standard involving N count. “but pair bonding!” i’ve yet to see someone show me a study actually involving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:39 PM
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okay but do you see the post she linked? people do it for men too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 11:14 PM
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did you read any of what i just said lmao the dead bedrooms sub is proof of nothing. the gender distribution is even. most of these people had fulfilling sex lives earlier in their relationship. i’m sure it happens sometimes, but men are guilty of it in a way as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:47 PM
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this has very little to do with women choosing a “safe guy”. firstly, women usually pick a safe guy they’re ALSO attracted to when they pick a safe guy. this “brother” thing you refer to is an experience men go through as well. proximity fosters attraction. too much of it, can make things feel more platonic, which can be bad news for married couples who aren’t careful. it’s likely linked to the behavioral responses that keep us from being attracted to our siblings. happens to a lot of people, ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:42 PM
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it seems that while you recognize the community exists, you haven’t really looked into it too far. about half of the people on there complaining about their spouse not wanting sex are WOMEN. these dead bedrooms are often indicative of other problems in the relationship, not just physical attraction. and when it is physical attraction, a lot of the time it’s because the SO put on weight or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:28 PM
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yeah but what does that have to do with anything
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:02 PM
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i’m joined on the sub already what about it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:51 PM
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ah so you get to be not like other guys but all women are the same. see the problem here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:50 PM
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that’s sounds like a very specific situation is it yours
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:45 PM
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how stupid do you have to be to misunderstand the analogy that badly LMAO. “look at the sky and nature” is empirical data. it doesn’t imply god exists AT ALL. but people misread the situation all the time. both situations are an example of interpreting data how you want to. taking “leaps of faith” because you want the stats to fit the story. rp uses stats sure. they just come to premature conclusions. just like the religious. nice try though :) maybe put on your thinking cap
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:44 PM
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okay not many. let’s see them i’m okay with a single one. if we’re viewing it like a drug then wouldn’t the response weaken even if it’s the same partner multiple times? also, women don’t fall in love with everyone they sleep with do you live under a rock
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:56 AM
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i mean, i don’t think it should be seen as a participation trophy if someone didn’t even want to date the conventionally “hotter” guys. like if they just didn’t mesh well personality wise. now if she did want to date them and tried hooking up with them to obtain that and then got rejected, then yeah. i could see it being settling. but nah. not the case for me. the guys i dated were all the hottest ones. also they weren’t random hookups i just met or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:45 AM
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ah. see i think it just really doesn’t make sense to me because i’m not that type of person. i can see how some women are but i’ve had “hookups” i wouldn’t date in a million years. the ones i’ve wanted to date have all reciprocated and there’s a pretty high bar there. i wouldn’t view it as whoever i’m with getting a participation trophy bc i chose to date him which is something other people have really wanted and i didn’t give them. so yeah i guess it just depends on the person. that’s why i don…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:51 AM
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i mean the analogy doesn’t really make sense lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:30 AM
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evidence for pair bonding impairment with more partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:24 AM
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wouldn’t the guy in first place be the guy she chooses to stay with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:24 AM
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nah depending on the person fomo can be reduced if your partner has a similar level of experience. had fomo when my partners had done significantly more than me. not when they didnt
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:23 AM
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oh no it’s a justified standard if you’re a virgin too or not promiscuous definitely. it just doesn’t make sense when guys will act like a high count means theyre gonna get cheated on when they’re promiscuous themselves. like hmmmm could you be projecting here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:21 AM
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idk why i didn’t see the flair before lol that explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:58 AM
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are you the guy on here who is diagnosed with aspd or am i thinking of someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:43 PM
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well, your username is certainly fitting. what i like about people wanting to be with me is the fact that they feel a connection with me and enjoy my company. the control kinda ruins the point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:48 PM
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wouldn’t you feel kinda offended if you were green beans though? doesn’t it seem a little about control. it’s like if you had the option to mind control someone into being with you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:15 PM
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nah, you make huge leaps when looking at stats. similar to someone saying “look at the sky and nature! how can beauty like this exist without a god???”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:07 PM
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that’s not really the question though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:01 PM
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you want to stay for the wrong reasons though, if only because you need to. i hate green beans but i’ll eat them if i’m starving and it’s the only thing in front of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:01 PM
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but the only difference in need and want is they can’t leave you even if they want to. it kinda sounds like wanting to trap someone against their will
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:35 PM
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so she’s gonna be set for life if you die? why do you prefer dependence?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:10 PM
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i’m being paid thousands of dollars to go to school and attending classes and living here free. humbled how? you think i won’t achieve my career goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:56 PM
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but what if something happens to the husband. wouldn’t you want a wife you’re confident can handle things with the kids if you kick the bucket? wouldn’t you want to know that while your wife can stick it out alone, she chooses to be with you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:52 PM
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and why does a guy want his wife to rely on him?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:50 PM
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but wouldn’t you be more compatible with someone with a similar level of intelligence? it’s hard for me to be friends with stupid people. i can’t imagine marrying one
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:49 PM
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those percentages aren’t meant to add up lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:45 PM
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i think it really depends on the situation. how open they are that they really like each other. if they both pretty much know they’re headed towards the path to being exclusive. if they’re texting a lot and getting really close. etc. they should be focused on each other. i had a guy i would hang out with here and there. texted a good bit but didn’t really know what was gonna happen. i didn’t do anything with anyone else between then and when we started dating but i don’t see an issue if i did. h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:26 PM
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i think what they mean by that is that’s it’s more a physical need than an emotional experience. regardless, they’re not doing it right if it doesn’t give them some connectivity with their partner (in a relationship). doesn’t have to be emotional if you don’t want it to, but why not want it to be somewhat emotional with the person you’re with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:12 PM
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yeah i definitely think those guys are probably either emotionally repressed or not having sex or something else. sex isn’t always emotional, but with your best friend you love? obviously there should be some emotion there at least some of the time. otherwise you’re doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:07 PM
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the hormonal iud isn’t entirely hormone free. copper iud is just copper. only way your body might mess things up is if you have a bad reaction to the copper, but that’s like a form of “allergy” and not everyone has it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:05 PM
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well i already had heavy flow naturally… then i got a copper iud and the amount of blood i had before is child’s play to me lmao. it truly is a crime scene. wouldn’t trade it though. hormone free very effective way for no pregnancy? nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:28 PM
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i think im pretty attractive, very intelligent, and set up to make a lot of money after college. i think im fine just wanting someone super hot with a super good personality. already have it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:31 PM
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lol i have an absolute crime scene and it’s leaked through a folded towel before and my bf doesn’t care. i would be pretty bothered if someone wouldn’t want period sex. that’s like a whole fourth of the month i can’t do anything during
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:57 AM
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a lot of rp guys on here say sex is like brushing your teeth for all men and doesn’t give them connection. interesting that there are a lot of guys here that disagree yet they’re still pushing that narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:54 AM
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i mean sure i’d want him to initiate sometimes just to make sure he’s not asexual or anything. and people who want to have sex do tend to initiate it with you from time to time so it would raise some suspicion, but it in no way would kill my drive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:50 AM
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i guess i’m not a woman hm
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:48 AM
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keep telling yourself that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:42 AM
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you’re setting yourself up to die alone but as long as you’re happy with it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:26 AM
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oh damn how bad was it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:26 AM
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ohh did the dynamic involve her acting really bad? i guess i misread the situation i didn’t realize it was like that. i thought you just saw her home life and didn’t like it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:10 AM
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he actually thinks of it as pretty much sacred and says once he’s married hes in it for life and it’s an agreement he puts a lot of importance in. i honestly think what happened with his parents is part of why it’s so important to him. i do think it can be helpful as a general filter but would you have done it the same if you met your absolute dream girl and that was the only thing you didn’t like?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 11:59 PM
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yeah i view it as a yellow flag like just to look for signs they’re well adjusted still. either way you should look for that though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:26 PM
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weird, my best relationship has been with a guy who barely knows his mom. my parents are still together too. having divorced parents shakes up probabilities a bit, but who the person is as a whole matters a lot more. you could have divorced parents and be the most loyal person in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:24 PM
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agree. although a guy who’s a 5 or 6 can definitely jump up because of it, it’s not gonna work for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:48 PM
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or maybe you’re just not that guy. communication and interests aren’t the only thing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:46 PM
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if we’re so opposite why do you have guy friends
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:29 PM
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you don’t think women want some degree of sexual variety? nobody wants their partner getting with other people. you don’t get with other people, not because you don’t want to, but because it would hurt your partner and you’re trying to keep a mutually beneficial agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:25 PM
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if men are “biologically disgusted” by it like you think then the shaming would never go away. “men want non experienced partners” “men are disgusted by it” and you say they aren’t shamed anymore? they obviously still are. i’ve seen it a lot too. the question of paternity did pose an issue sometimes back then, but that doesnt mean this is a biological thing. a seemingly logical supposition doesn’t equate to the truth. humans as a species have existed far longer than the concept of marriage. ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:40 AM
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you are literally so close to the point. first of all, i made it clear it wasn’t most men, it’s the fact that it was only men and not women. so i don’t know why you pretty much restated what i said in different words. and yes! it’s because men were stronger, so those top men dictated societal standards in a way that was most beneficial to them. even if women didn’t want things to be like that. thats a biological difference these standards likely come from. not necessarily an inherent difference …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:31 AM
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if anything is disingenuous, it’s acting as if you know for certain that certain trends are due into biology and not socialization. plenty of women don’t want the guy who has had sex with a lot of people. i don’t know a single one of my friends who is glad their partner is “experienced”. a lot of these things you consider trends are based on your experience viewing life through your eyes. my experience is different. did i say women didn’t need men back then?? the fact is that people in power, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:27 AM
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if i’m to stop assuming what women want is what men want, you should stop assuming the opposite. people vary, a LOT in tastes. some women AND some guys say they want a partner with a bit of experience. guys do complain about women not wanting relationships after sex. we are not all the same. i’ve never really had a hookup i wanted to be in a relationship with from the start. conversely, i’ve had men upset that the sex was just sex and nothing more. with the exception of one time, any time i’ve d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:46 PM
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my dad was far more protective than my mom
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:04 PM
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virgins often absolutely do lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:19 PM
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if it’s a biological thing, why do so many women have sex with multiple people? the virginal ones are the outlier. this biological trait hasn’t been proven, only assumed. even in our closest animal relative, both sexes are promiscuous. it isn’t necessarily true that most women want an experienced man. a lot of them have a visceral negative reaction to knowing their partner has done it with multiple people. they just try their best to unlearn it. i had terrible intrusive thoughts and a fixation o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:18 PM
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the issue with the first guy is if these are the biological roles that are natural then why are so many women having sex with multiple partners? i just think these claims are unfounded. the virgin women are the outliers, not the ones who engage in sex. these men love to talk about the animal kingdom in different arguments, but females of most species copulate with multiple partners just as the males do. even in our closest genetic relative, chimps, BOTH sexes like to engage in promiscuous mating…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:49 AM
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a lot of them actually are the same guys. seen it happen
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:29 AM
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it’s just weird when they have this romantic fantasy but don’t hold their own virginity sacred as well. doesn’t sound very romantic to me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:22 AM
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i had the same experience and i sort of grew out of it. it took a lot of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:19 AM
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nah if you’re a virgin you’re perfectly fine to have that standard. it just might be a bit difficult and impractical depending on your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:18 AM
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the expectations are different in nature a bit here though. wanting an attractive partner is normal, and so is wanting a partner with features that are compatible with yours, and similar to yours. the issue people have with it is hypocrisy, and the fact that wanting a virgin when you’re very sexually experienced is a bit impractical and could lead to sexual incompatibility- there really isn’t much of a reason to prefer it without the double standard. the majority of the time when people have thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:17 AM
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sharing men is gross too then. why would i want a stick that’s already been dipped in a different swamp lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:08 AM
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did i really just see someone call sneako charismatic and funny? i need to get back to my original timeline
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 09:58 PM
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some people are probably over/under estimating how attractive people are in general. you notice hot people better than people you don’t find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 09:25 PM
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uglier than them maybe. but it’s not as much about wanting to get with ugly people as it is about being picky or having standards
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 09:22 PM
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sleep with: i have no clue actually. i’ve surprised myself before relationship: very tiny percent. by far less than sleeping with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 09:11 PM
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i laughed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 07:25 PM
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yeah they know it. does that mean you need to point out they’re ugly? just like women know that not all guys will date someone with kids. neither need to be pointed out. every situation is different. people will get married have kids and then one person leaves. people have a rough childhood and it leads them to make mistakes. there are so many single parent scenarios who are you to judge?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 07:19 PM
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no lmao. my worldview is that it’s completely fine to reject someone because they have kids. it’s not your cup of tea. doesn’t mean other single guys aren’t going to be into it. plenty of guys will date a woman with kids. i wouldn’t date someone with kids either but what’s the point in telling them that? maybe you need to know you’re ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 07:15 PM
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encouraging politeness isn’t the same as messing with free speech… just because you can legally go around being a dick doesn’t mean you should. it reads like an insult. you say it’s not one, but you have already made it clear how you view it. similarly to if someone tells you “no thanks i don’t date ugly people.” it’s their first amendment right to do so. doesn’t mean you can’t be upset about it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:02 PM
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yeah, but you’re just one guy. this isn’t just a women problem it’s a guy thing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 02:55 PM
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do you know how often men act out from being rejected? no general group of people handles it well
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 02:38 PM
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she might not even have a problem with you not dating women with kids. the problem might be with you SAYING it. which sounds like you’re just insulting her. based on your comments, you kind of are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 02:37 PM
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i mean you can have whatever reason you want to reject someone, but you don’t really need to say why. it just sounds like an intentional insult. imagine if you asked someone out and they said “oh sorry i don’t date ugly people.” you’d have a right to get offended
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 02:35 PM
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no, i wouldn’t know what it was like, but no doubt it’s not as great as the pedestal i put it on in my head, especially since he even says it’s not all that great. it’s like when i was dating my first boyfriend i thought it was the end of the world that he had done stuff with other people. now i realize that sex is just sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:47 PM
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he didn’t do it in a relationship. neither of us would want to do it in a relationship. feels kinda wrong to both of us. i don’t actively really want one right now because he’s definitely enough it just bothers me that he has and i haven’t. like it’s an experience i irrationally worry about him thinking back on too much even though it was like years ago and he regrets casual sex in general. if i had the experience myself i wouldn’t worry as much because i would know what it’s like and realize it…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 12:53 PM
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oh yeah if course. i don’t think you should consider marriage with anyone who doesn’t bring a lot to the table. personality intelligence whatever non physical features you find attractive, maybe a great job if you’re into that sort of thing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 04:12 AM
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i mean yeah but do you think you’re even deserving of marriage at that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:42 AM
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but why would your virginity not be important as well for the sake of tradition
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:25 AM
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traditionally, virginity is supposed to be a thing for both the man and woman to save for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:12 AM
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why would women be six times more likely to be divorced by their husband than men by their wives after they receive a terminal diagnosis then?
/r/TheRedPill05/09/22 12:50 AM
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how does this sentiment coexist with the fact that women are roughly six times more likely to be divorced by their husbands after being diagnosed with a terminal illness, than the other way around?
/r/TheRedPill05/09/22 12:46 AM
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link an actual study yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 12:15 AM
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go find me one
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:22 PM
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most of them are much older, or dead. i’m talking beatles bowie the cure radiohead nobody who’s even relatively young and attractive and would fit what you’re trying to ask. i do like some actors of this day and age though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:32 PM
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i don’t have a specific type i guess i just weigh out the pros and cons of each person. i don’t even know him, just his public image
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:26 PM
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he doesn’t seem very intelligent. he’s religious and makes bad music imo. i guess i haven’t heard much of his music but what i’ve heard didnt do it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:26 PM
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you might want to get off the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:24 PM
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lol no but he wouldn’t be my type even if he was younger to be fair
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:15 PM
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hell no. he’s not even attractive anymore and he’s way way older
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:12 PM
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i think max right now is probably 24
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:08 PM
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20
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:03 PM
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yes they vary. that’s why i said most not all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:03 PM
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okay then if you don’t want children and marriage it might not end up a problem for you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:02 PM
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most definitely not
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:01 PM
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oh, so you’re not interested in having children right? that’s mostly what i meant by build a life. marriage and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:25 PM
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maybe more attractive to girls their own age. not most young girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:23 PM
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no. the hottest men to me are around my age. and a much older guy going after me will just creep me out. what’s he want with a kid in college
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:21 PM
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i mean yeah, it’s not really a problem now i just meant if you were bothered if it would happen after you built a life with someone
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:05 PM
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my fomo kept me from fully enjoying being with someone. i genuinely think i would have been more into him if i tried other things first bc then i could have appreciated what we had more. when you haven’t tried anything else you don’t know how you would feel about it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:05 PM
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honestly it’s not even types of people it’s just different people in general. i didnt have a checklist. didnt try any threesomes or anything like that. although that bit does slightly bother me only because my current partner has. but it’s not the all-consuming bother that i experienced in my first relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:03 PM
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yeah but the fomo thing i’m talking about is different. i’m talking about becoming extremely absorbed in it and being really bothered by it. making her question her relationship with you and if she wants to be in it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:25 PM
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that’s interesting. so it doesn’t bother you that she may be mentally absorbed with the idea of sex with other people as long as she doesn’t show it? still, showing it eventually is always a possibility
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:21 PM
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i’m talking more about preference than visceral attraction. someone may have a visceral attraction to a really shitty person, but certain factors make this person a dealbreaker after some critical thinking. our complex social systems are what separates us from other animals. we’re capable of higher thought and acting in the good interests of others. if a woman’s mental immaturity because of her age is what attracts you to her, that’s no doubt an indicator that there may be some issues if it’s pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:19 PM
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easy to say, but what happens when you’ve already built a life together and realized you wasted your time? plus i’m not even just talking about actually cheating on you. i’m talking about always constantly wondering what other people are like with wandering eyes, even without telling you. i felt purity was very important for me and my partner in my first relationship. we talked about how sacred and special things were because we had only been with each other. and i genuinely believed it too, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:56 PM
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even if she doesn’t feel that way now, there’s the potential of it later in the relationship. no matter what her values are, human curiosity can get the best of anyone. it happens to a lot of people years down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:48 PM
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yeah but she likely wouldn’t is the thing. loss of virginity comes with more than just the loss itself. a lot of people have fomo in relationships because they’ve only been with one partner. it could cause some serious grass is greener worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:46 PM
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there’s no evidence for the reduced pair bonding bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:43 PM
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but you don’t buy into the traditional trappings either so why even be open to marriage in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:42 PM
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does it bother you that they probably have FOMO about other experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:39 PM
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that’s uh, really not typical
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:38 PM
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this is so true because i remember with my first boyfriend i had serious fomo realizing i don’t want to go my whole life only having done it with one person. now that i’ve tried a couple things, i don’t care at all and i don’t wonder if the grass is greener whatsoever in my current relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:26 PM
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it’s not that they should completely lose attraction because the prefrontal cortex isn’t all there, but a degree of mental immaturity, regardless of perceived social immaturity, is something to take into consideration. i’m talking about the people who prefer someone in this age group when a 25 year old can provide the same physical appeal. why prefer someone this young when the only real difference is life experience and cognitive development? this is why people sometimes think men who prefer wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 05:57 PM
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maybe not on average but depending on the person i’m sure some do
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 05:44 PM
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yeah and good looking guys definitely do have a lot of options.i couldn’t just walk up to any good looking guy and get play. when you have a lot of options, you get used to it and your standards often get a bit higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:45 PM
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i never said they couldn’t consent, or were severely impaired at all. Nor did i say sex with older guys was “off limits”. i just said it was a little odd when a much older adult has a specific preference for such. this is a serious case of straw manning and blowing things out of proportion. a gross exaggeration. do better
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:14 PM
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what are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:11 PM
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yeah it’s okay to be single, but there are different levels of happiness and some feel they’d feel even happier with certain people. are they just supposed to shut out a mutual attraction with someone who seems really good for them? look you can do what you want, but what’s right for you isn’t right for everyone. theres nothing wrong with what you want, but theres nothing wrong with wanting a relationship either
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:41 AM
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because they are still biological adolescents. 18 is just the arbitrary age we came up with for adulthood. i don’t think these older adults are pedos or anything obviously. but 25+ women can look just as good as younger ones, so why not go for them? they have a more similar cognitive toolbox to the older person than younger women do, and more real world life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 05:34 AM
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i don’t think you meant to reply to my comment with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 05:30 AM
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i feel the same way about both women and guys at this age. they can be trusted to make their own decisions sure. i just find it weird when a much older adult has a specific preference for people whose brains are not quite finished developing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 05:27 AM
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she’s 28. not 40. biological adolescence doesn’t even really end until the brain stops developing at 25. going for the wrong thing at first is a part of life a lot of people deal with. they’re just figuring things out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:35 AM
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i’m into nightlife. what makes you say i’m not? and i’m very open to making friends with women of all kinds. a lot of women i’ve become friends with i’ve actually met at club settings. i don’t think women wanting to date older men is something that would even subconsciously turn me off to the idea of being friends with them. i don’t think i necessarily have the right answer from my anecdotal experience. i just think mine is more, maybe even only slightly, more likely to be representative.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:25 AM
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i don’t really think it’s afbb just her being destructive and then dating someone who was less shitty but still shitty. seems she just has bad standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:03 AM
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i am not claiming this subset is a representative sample, just that my ability to befriend these women leads me closer to having a representative sample, since as a rule you are not going to be able to befriend them. a whole chunk of women, the ones most likely to not want to date an older man, is missing from your sample. the correlation between a refusal to befriend an older man and refusing to date one is no doubt a bit stronger than any correlation involving willingness to date an older man …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:00 AM
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“the one” is kind of a high standard. it can be really hard to find someone who is extremely compatible with you. it makes sense to have a hard time finding it. if you settle you’re setting yourself up for a potentially unhappy marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:47 AM
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i do think being willing to befriend an older male makes you more likely to be willing to date one, because the subset of girls who won’t even befriend an older male is filled with girls who won’t be willing to date one. i’m not denying my personal bias is a thing. i’m definitely biased because the subset of girls who associates me isn’t an entirely representative sample. but the subject of discussion is willingness to get with an older male, so i have a bit of a leg up
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:09 AM
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but we’re speaking on the behavior of young women, not only the young women who associate with older men. my experience as a young woman puts me around women my age of all sorts. some who are interested in older men, and some who aren’t. it’s likely more of a representative sample than yours. you’re biased in that the women you’re friends with ARE the women who are likely to be open to dating older men, because they associate with you. but i do agree that generalization can be a tricky subject h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:33 AM
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okay we don’t have data on what most woman that age do, but as a woman that age, with many friends my age, i probably have a better idea of how rare it is than you do. it’s pretty likely an older guy is gonna have a better chance getting women his own age on dating apps than much younger women. 25+ it isn’t especially rare for a woman to be single. when i say plenty of 25+, i recognize a lot of them are going to be closer to the 25 side.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:42 AM
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i feel like some features on some faces look bad but on others look good. i’m not attracted to a strong nose by itself but what matters is how the face works together. similar with personality traits. someone who is really funny can get away with being an ass in a teasing way, but if it’s an unfunny person, the jokes aren’t going to hit. it’s all about how things blend together. i don’t think anyone could get me to find an actual dealbreaker attractive. pretty much by definition i wouldn’t say i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:01 AM
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you’re right, it might not even out. it might be that older guys get even MORE matches from older women because of how few younger women will match with them. plus, you’re not taking into account the fact that MOST of these young girls don’t have THEIR age range set to older. with night life, you can’t set an age range for the people around you, so i agree on that point. but there are still plenty of 25+ women there
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 12:20 AM
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i’m fine with that. some biases deserve to be judged and id like to know if people have disagreements with mine
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:31 PM
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no. it’s not always justified
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:15 PM
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ah, well you said she gained some weight and stuff so i don’t know if i’d say that’s necessarily an age thing. my mom looked pretty much exactly the same as when she had me for like almost twenty years. she looks slightly different now but it’s still not as much as some people change even earlier in life from not taking care of themself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:10 PM
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i think she was just being a shitty person but i don’t think it proves she hit the wall. who knows if she could have got a more attractive guy than that ugly dude. she probably just realized the grass isn’t actually greener on the other side. i feel like that when i get out of relationships and i’m nowhere near the “wall”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:06 PM
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we’re talking about how much play they can get. smv. the guy getting tables isn’t going to do that well unless he’s also decently attractive. sure there will be the occasional gold digger who will sleep with anyone with a ton of money. but there are even more women who would sleep with any super hot guy than those gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:04 PM
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what did this story have to do with the wall what are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:00 PM
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maybe we should reframe it a bit then, if the issue is actually getting a less desirable shape over time. definitely doesn’t happen to everyone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 10:57 PM
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lots of guys think he’s justified how long have you been in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 10:54 PM
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the wall is usually talked about in terms of SMV. not RMV
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 10:50 PM
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maybe you want men to be more judged for their success. looks are always the number one factor for both. money can HELP sometimes but it’s not going to put you as high as attractive looks will. you think a forty year old guy with his own business is getting more play than the hot 25 year old guy? nah
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 10:49 PM
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hitting puberty later doesn’t change when the body starts breaking down. developing during puberty is not the same as deteriorative aging.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 10:47 PM
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that’s not usually what people are talking about when they mention the wall
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 10:24 PM
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a younger woman is less likely to swipe right on a forty year old man than a woman his age or in her thirties. there may be more 20 year olds, but the odds of those girls swiping right on those guys are way lower than the older women, so it evens out. idk where you live but in a decently populated area there’s plenty of older women on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 10:17 PM
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fewer young people are going to be willing to match with them anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 10:13 PM
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nah, we’re talking about his body declining lmao and not being able to do the things he used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 09:11 PM
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mid twenties and up its not too much of an issue depending on the situation. it’s weird when it’s a pattern and actively sought out by the older person. i feel the same for men and women in both roles
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 09:10 PM
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yeah there are plenty of guys on here who think a woman is “used up” and no good by the time they’re thirty. those are the types i’m mostly talking about. not guys who are open to their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 08:19 PM
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i’m sure but i’m not just talking about club situations. more in general. the people who go on tinder and set the age to really young and are swiping through twenty year olds all day. it really depends on the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 08:15 PM
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i was just talking about worst case scenario. even 21 or 22 is a bit creepy. anything above that gets less creepy with each year and at around mid twenties doesn’t matter so much. i advocate for 25 because that’s typically the age where the brain stops developing and they’re no longer a biological adolescent. they can make decisions with roughly the same cognitive toolbox as someone a good deal older. and there’s still plenty of women that young who are very attractive, and even into their thirt…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:52 PM
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it’s creepy. i mean not if you’re dating like a 25 year old. that’s not fresh into adulthood. you can get with young attractive women without going for girls who can’t even have a legal drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:33 PM
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i don’t really see this happening. ive never seen a woman who is okay with how phases being against a man having one at any time. what people DO complain about, is creeps chasing after teenagers and very young adults well into their thirties and forties.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:29 PM
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a little boy doesn’t have very much strength and ability to fight lmao. the playing field is level regardless of physical capability range for little kids in that respect. not effeminate boys, easier to manipulate boys are easier targets.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:40 PM
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and um, why do you think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:23 PM
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if we’re talking something of a sexual nature, the attitude around little boys being molested/sexualized by adults. little boys are less outwardly sexualized in general, so when it does happen people sometimes make jokes about it and take it less seriously. because “men are the ones who prey on girls” supposedly. seeing it the other way around is a shock and people don’t always think of it the same. we’re so used to how girls feel in hes these situations and we don’t hear about it as much from b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:22 PM
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i just thought of pointing it out. it’s not really relevant just wondered if you actually meant what you said to the fullest degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:16 PM
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you just said freedom and autonomy is inherently good in every instance. so that includes it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:06 PM
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yeah i think it depends on the individual scenario. if the partner is fine with it and they have no intention of reviving the db ever then it’s one thing. if they really want to work on things porn can hurt their chances
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:04 PM
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is that included in the studies? i haven’t seen it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:03 PM
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wanting people in general to think you’re hot isn’t the same as showing other people you think they’re hot. i’ve asked my boyfriend how he feels about the whole “liking pics vs posting pics” dichotomy, and he came to the same conclusion i did without me even letting him know my opinion first.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 04:55 PM
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yes, liking a picture is showing that you “like” it. it’s showing that you’re attracted to it in some sense. posting the pictures is not the same. anyone can show you that they “like” it. but them liking it doesn’t mean you like them back. i’d take my partner posting revealing pics over liking them any day i don’t post any overly lewd content by any means. but if a guy likes a bathingsuit picture because he’s attracted to me that’s his choice. i don’t really get validation for it aside from ‘coo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 04:53 PM
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i agree to this to some extent. once you’re happy alone i feel like you should have much higher standards of compatibility for a relationship. then it’ll have the potential to make you even happier
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 04:10 PM
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i started at like eleven years old so i get the struggle lol. my bf actually agreed to it pretty easily i was surprised. i just explained my thought process about it to him and he said he agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 04:03 PM
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i agree with this to a degree but people will say it’s still bad for your brain anyway. which it is. it’s not that hard to use your imagination tbh lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:55 PM
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it takes a lot of patience to stop and get adjusted to the transition, but i’m glad i did
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:53 PM
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i don’t think it’s that crazy. porn isn’t great for your brain and it’s not a necessity. it’s most definitely not worse than people who advocate no social media. the concept is similar and they both come from a good place
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:51 PM
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since when is people lusting after you cheating? and why is only one disrespectful? being lusted for and lusting after others are two very different things. one is active and the other is passive. i know which seems worse to me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:50 PM
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fun fact: some studies have shown that in some ways, the brain can’t tell the different between watching porn and having real sex, and they show that porn makes you less attached to your partner. the more you know
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:48 PM
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yeah that was actually hilarious. the internet is crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:46 PM
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i think this is where it gets a bit different. porn is still not great for your brain, but if your partner has gone forever without doing the deed with you and won’t try to work on it then it’s more okay
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:46 PM
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so you’re fine with them sleeping with other people right
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:44 PM
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thats uh not the same. it’s lusting after someone which is basically fantasizing about cheating. not talking about how i feel abt it but definitely not akin to an iud
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:43 PM
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no lol. if he wants porn at the very least he can make it in his head and imagine a girl that doesn’t even exist. much better than having an existing object of sexual pleasure. plus it doesn’t exploit anyone or mess with your brain the same
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:41 PM
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i think i saw studies that said 20-30% watch it a lot not just in general
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:40 PM
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i don’t even believe in jesus like that but maybe the man had a point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:37 PM
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i mean people are followed home sometimes and break ins happen. but yeah i feel like there’s context missing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:36 AM
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i think id still prefer a young george clooney. but plenty of normal people can get more attractive with age, especially if you started out really overweight or something
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 04:51 AM
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yeah honestly after being in my headspace when i had very few partners, it’s almost a relief when people i date have been with at least a few people. i assume they’re like me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:45 PM
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not at all. i’m a harsh critic for what counts as attractive and even i can tell that some of these guys are way off
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:24 PM
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average doesn’t imply that when the norm has sadly become obesity. it shouldn’t be like that but it is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:21 PM
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this was me. i couldn’t fully enjoy my earlier relationships because i was always wondering what else was out there. now i’ve had a bit more experience and realized hookups are nothing special or groundbreaking. i don’t have fomo at all now
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:03 PM
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oh my god. “nice guy” is just a colloquialism used to describe guys who believe they’re supposed to get women because they’re “nice” and life is unfair because they don’t get them. there’s no “strawman” involved. Some of these “bullies” and shitty guys are getting girls. just like it’s only some girls who will get with these men. but guess what? plenty of actually nice men are ALSO getting women. more guys who are nice are getting women than these shitty guys. women go for plenty of nice men, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:47 PM
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colloquialisms can shift meaning over time. nowadays you only really say dating if you have the title of “girlfriend/boyfriend” and you’re committed to only each other
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 06:58 AM
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yeah it’s not really good for a long term relationship to have that dynamic. you’re better off
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 12:55 AM
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20, and it really depends on the group probably around eight or so. there’s a huge range like we still have plenty of people who are virgins and then the group that’s been around the block a few more times
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 12:53 AM
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same for women. thought people on here said guys had low standards for getting hard. which is it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:22 PM
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it probably does to a degree. if you don’t feel 100% secure in your relationship you’re more likely to put more energy into it. like, if you know someone will stay with you no matter what you can probably relax into thinking about other people. but if there’s a bit of uncertainty you’re going to put more energy into keeping them for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 04:14 PM
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pretty oversimplified take, but i understand the purpose of making it in a concise statement. i think both men and women have a bit of both sentiments. i’ve felt the same way in relationships and i’m not a man. probably varies a lot from person to person
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 03:17 PM
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remember the two videos where a guy and a girl were deciding based on looks and personality, and the guy, who acted like personality was the most important thing, chose the girl based on looks, while the girl took her chance on the personality guy? if you’re gonna use these videos as evidence for something, at least watch both gender versions and make sure they’re actually different
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 01:38 PM
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sometimes “get the hint” is used as an expression even when i wouldn’t call it a hint and it’s pretty direct. men lie sometimes about what they want. it happens. oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:42 PM
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no, they’ll get pissed and say “you didn’t have to say it like that”. it all depends on the guy. maybe learn to take a hint.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:39 PM
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why would you even want to get with a guy who would perceive you asking as masculine? sounds like a ridiculous game. you could be missing out on some great things. there are guys on the other end who are scared to make the first move just like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:41 PM
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again, if you like them why aren’t you asking them out
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:36 PM
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literally why are u expecting them to ask u out lmaoo. if u wanted to get w them so bad you could ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:30 PM
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i don’t think this is really evidence. i’ve seen women’s profiles, they all have at least decent bios. these women who say the bio is more important, are probably recalling the absolutely horrendous tinder bios they’ve seen. it’s so often guys being creepy and outright admitting to misogyny. i’m sure women here and there have bios like that but nowhere near the amount of men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:30 PM
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a 25 year old and an 18 year old can look the same. there’s a reason a lot of these people prefer the 18 year old and actively seek them out, and it’s not anything good. i didn’t say any relationship like that goes as far as being “predatory”. i’m sure there are extenuating circumstances. but, actively seeking out the 18 year olds over the few years older women who look the same, come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:23 PM
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not only in my opinion- in many others. and it’s a personal preference that can be harmful to the very young people they go after. so yeah, my opinion is based on something real. i’m not complaining when these people go after 25 year olds. just around the barely legal variety
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:15 PM
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did i say it would change it? NO. of course they’re still going to happen. does that make mean we can’t discuss it being icky? no. what’s your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:08 PM
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agree. how is it a relationship if you KNOW it’s going to be done soon from the start
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:03 PM
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nah. my family is comfortable and i don’t care p much at all about money
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 02:03 AM
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not very. make enough to not be homeless and don’t spend in excessively idiotic ways. spend an amount on me that’s proportional to your income. like if you have a lot to spend then i’d probably expect some nice gifts here and there. i’m open to a stay at home dad if children become a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 02:00 AM
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but they often don’t find a middleground later. this over correction just puts them in a different version of being in the wrong, in a way that’s more harmful to women. it’s dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 12:30 AM
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be who you are is terrible advice for a lot of people, but i’d say it’s more because a lot of these people are shitty. “who they are” is nothing special
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:46 PM
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not a bad faith argument at all. our physical abilities most definitely are different on average, but our personality traits are a more complex mosaic. can i see the data that proves it harms their ability to pair bond? all these things you list, involving “first times” and stuff, are concerns with promiscuous men as well. the only data i’ve seen on this has shown that promiscuous people of both sexes are less likely to have marriages that stay together. and even then the correlation doesn’t nec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 07:44 PM
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you’re really gonna speak in terms of “energy”. it’s basically the astrology of the dating advice industry. you can take responsibility for your family without caring much about roles. women should do what they can to take care of their family too. being promiscuous doesn’t hinder you in caring for your family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 07:01 PM
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men and women have different physical traits that are seen as attractive. if there’s one thing that’s extremely different between men and women it’s how we look. but sure, you can still prefer lower count women if you want, just as long as you just feel it’s a matter of preference and nothing “wrong” with the women with higher counts
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:27 PM
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believe what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:23 PM
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there are multiple differences and similarities. they’re both based on age gap, unlike the homosexual example. they both involve as a rule, someone with a fully developed brain and someone years from it. obviously one is more severe, but what i said still stands. you could use your previous argument to justify pedophilia
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 04:32 PM
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lmao no
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 04:28 PM
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if it was unsolicited then that could explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 04:27 PM
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naked man might be enough, provided he’s not ugly. probably depends on context though. similar to how strip clubs get people more hot and bothered than the show naked and afraid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 04:25 PM
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i do not sound exactly like the people who criticize those things. going after twenty year olds is not a sexuality. it’s a choice. you could use your logic to support pedophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 04:20 PM
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okay? what’s your point? i’m well aware of all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 03:39 PM
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no, i realized someone might not be able to understand the nuance enough and point out the “similarities” as if they’re doing something. i’m not grossed out by homosexuals being attracted to me, nor am i grossed out by ugly people my own age being attracted to me. it is not as simple as “person i’m not attracted to being attracted to me grosses me out” its about the character traits that these men exhibit by going after people that young. even if they fail, the fact that they would rather get wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 03:19 PM
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i’m not grossed out by homosexuality. i’m grossed out by it because it involves older men lusting after me. and i do not want them to. and i also don’t want to get with people who would try to get with only twenty year olds if they could. not the same thing as homosexuals. their relationships don’t involve me im fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:47 PM
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hard to tell you’ll probably never know for sure but there’s definitely guys who are more into milfs so i’d probably rather have one of those lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:44 PM
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yes and this fact really bothers people because it indicates that men don’t care about accomplishment and personality in women. at least talking about dating anyway. young men get laid easier than old ones too, so mostly referring to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:40 PM
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yeah it still “matters” because i’m gonna be grossed out by it. some guys don’t prefer this age and hopefully i’ll find one because it makes me uncomfortable. 25 year olds can look just as good as 20 year olds if not better. at least focus on them instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:37 PM
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physical attraction is not the only thing that should be important, and is not the only thing that’s important to a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:23 PM
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that’s not a couple. but also shes 28. not the ages most of us talking about. most of us are thinking about at least men in their thirties going after teens
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:21 PM
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depending on how old you both are, it’s gross. even if not outright malicious. at the very least it’s so overly shallow to the point where you sacrifice compatibility for good looks. an eighteen year old is not gonna be super compatible with a 40 year old. their brains are years away from finishing development. red flag to sacrifice compatibility to this extent for looks, enough that you’re willing to date someone with a most likely still relatively immature mentality and naïveté about the world
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:18 PM
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yeah she should have known better. but you know who’s supposed to know better even more? the older person in these types of situations with a more developed brain and less naïveté about the world. she was still a child. you don’t know what her home life was or what resulted in her thinking this was okay, and these men certainly made it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:13 PM
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how it went for you. but the younger person, depending on how young you go, could have an entirely different takeaway from the relationship than you. after all, we don’t complain that dating younger people is harmful to much older people. only the reverse sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:10 PM
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oh my god you were so young. i know the age of consent laws in some states allow this but you were still a kid with 30 year old dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:06 PM
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dont pretend that it’s any guy fucking your daughter for every guy. maybe the EXTREME cases. but what do you think the majority feels like. come on, don’t play dumb with it. most guys are at the very least accepting of their daughter dating guys, but would not be caught dead accepting this big of an age gap
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:04 PM
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there possibly is, but you would need to work very hard on your phobia and be comfortable around women first. i wish you luck in it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:24 AM
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honestly being a “bad boy” and rude to women is not going to help your case. it could only hurt. your best bet is just being a general all around good dude. confidence is important. i’ve seen people in worse positions still end up with a wife. it’s not impossible for you. maybe work on your wit and humor to give you an edge as well. being a good conversationalist doesn’t hurt. don’t believe that you’ll definitely never be worth touching for anyone. it could happen. you never know. and even if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:13 AM
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did that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:01 AM
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i mean if we’re being honest i hate to say it but it’s honestly probably just your dwarfism and nothing to do with the fact that you’re a nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 12:38 AM
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i mean no. focusing on building your hobbies and being a good person helps way more than being a wannabe badboy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 12:29 AM
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people who try to fake “bad boy charm” are easily sniffed out by women though. it just doesn’t work the same if the reason you’re doing it is because of women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:01 PM
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not easier for someone who adheres to them but isn’t meant for them. that’s not to say don’t buy boys trucks and girls dolls, but if the kid shows a huge resistance to the idea then i don’t think they should be prevented from exploring what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 04:48 PM
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i think theres a disconnect between what people think toxic masculinity is. being emotionally repressed, in itself, is not toxic masculinity. toxic masculinity involves the expectation that men should be emotionally repressed. not everyone who is emotionally repressed is such because of toxic masculinity. only the ones who are because of society’s expectations. regardless, repressing your emotions is harmful, and the fact that society expects it is just unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 04:43 PM
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some of those behaviors are harmful to other people though, and they should be a requirement as a rule. aggressiveness is a trait that can be harmful to others. and emotional repression can be harmful to yourself. some of these things are expected of women as well and are not specifically masculine ideas. being assertive and standing up for yourself is a positive trait in both men and women. nobody is better off as a doormat. similarly, aggression is bad for both. being respectful of boundaries …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 04:38 PM
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nothing “needs” to be proven this isn’t life or death. you’re still skirting around admitting that some of your evidence was just really bad
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 03:17 PM
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no. i do remember the one-off ugly guy who approaches me, it’s always an old guy. and it’s still extremely seldom i can’t remember the last time it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 03:13 PM
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we’ve been over it yet you seem to still not get it. that part of your argument is probably the one that makes the least amount of sense. i never acted like i was chris hitchens. just used him as an example for my point. i have not played any “games” during this discussion. when you make a claim, the burden of proof is on you. you did not prove it to ME, just because i did not refute your claim. i was never trying to say your claim was for sure false. do we really have to do this again? proof is…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:48 AM
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no. you can think it all you want but it’s simply not true. it happens so rarely, i remember when it does, because i’m shocked someone approached me. the last time i can remember it happening was over two years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 07:53 AM
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i tried my best to extend an olive branch and be lenient on my assessment of your stance. so i didn’t provide an exact counterpart for the article you sent? yes. i very clearly did. you find it hard to believe i took you saying you could prove something to mean… you think you can prove something?? there should not be a discrepancy in the statutory thing. but you disqualified it as an example when you defined adult dating, and i was never talking about statutory rape either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 07:42 AM
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you know, i really thought you were doing well until towards the end of that comment. i agree with a lot of what you said but the last line was a bit unnecessary. i did take “proving it” at face value and thought you were just irrational enough that you thought you could prove it without a doubt. i think you could see how i could possibly take it that way. you had some points i think did have SOME merit, just not enough to prove anything as i thought you were trying to. my main issue was with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 07:02 AM
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intelligent, able to convey my thoughts in a clear and concise manner, thoughtful in some ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 06:40 AM
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but how do you know they do it that often to the majority of women? you haven’t been a woman and experienced it. not me nor any of my friends experiences that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 06:19 AM
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so you admit that you didn’t really “prove” anything right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 06:11 AM
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i don’t need to disprove it. my entire issue from near the beginning is that you submitted things as proof that were not actually proof. like the website article you sent, of which i could find a near identical article with the genders swapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 05:34 AM
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no. we don’t. by definition we live in a relatively urban area. why is it hard to believe? what was your reason for believing the vast majority of women can sit and wait for a guy to approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 05:21 AM
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no, they do not. and they’re not hideous or anything either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 04:49 AM
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maybe men are not approaching most women and you just assume they are. maybe it’s a smaller subset than you think. because this doesn’t really happen to any of my friends either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 04:28 AM
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the court of law is not the same as the court of public opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:06 AM
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great unnecessary comeback. yes i’m aware of the key detail!!! i have experience being around it. i’ve had friends who have experienced both gender versions of that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:59 AM
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lmao no. you said adult dating and you said i didn’t have experience being around it because of my age. but if you’re willing to accept adults going after children as an example, my experience DOES fit your scenario then!! so i do have experience with it! i’m so glad you’re in a position to take my anecdotes more seriously now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:45 AM
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statutory rape is not dating. bit of a stretch you’re just trying to make it fit your argument. they are not both adults. you also said that at my age i can’t have many anecdotes because i have not been a part of adult dating. if predators going after children is an acceptable example then i DO have years of anecdotes involving that. so either it doesn’t count or my anecdotes are valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:26 AM
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i mean i’m by no means a country girl. my dad is from up north not in a rural area and we don’t hunt or fish we just talk about books and make jokes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:24 AM
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really? i feel like sometimes it’s the opposite. well, women in rural areas can take part in the hunting and fishing but theyre still very protected when it comes to dating and held to a higher standard in some ways
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:12 AM
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i took it there and you rejected it saying it doesn’t work for the scope of your claim. your claim was “adult dating with a 10-15 year difference”. statutory rape is not adult dating. neither of us can use those examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:10 AM
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yes and for a 10-15 year difference to work for adult dating, it would have to not be in grade school
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:05 AM
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yeahh my dad didn’t really care for the whole gender role thing. he’s closer with me than my brother because we have more in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:03 AM
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it does not still fit because it is NOT adult dating. you made it clear any experience with statutory rape does not fit the argument anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:56 AM
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i do like being among guys. idk i’ve just always got along with guys and been friends with them more in general. maybe it’s because i’ve always been closer with my dad than mom so it’s just how i’m socialized. the female friends i have though i’m extremely close with
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:54 AM
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you vastly overestimate the frequency of women getting approached. i can’t just “sit and wait.” unless you count those much older men when i was a sixteen year old. and maybe an occasional much much older guy now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:44 AM
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so since my grade school example doesn’t work, and the only time it would be the case is for statutory rape, neither is an acceptable example! thank you you finally get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:34 AM
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yeah i’m not very feminine. i mean i’d say i’m attractive but i think my demeanor and grossness kind of turns guys off. i’m not like disgusting but i do like to do whatever i can to lower attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:10 AM
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it makes me very wary of friendships with certain guys. if i detect a hint of attraction from them, sometimes even potentially imagined, i overthink it. the plus side is that even if there’s something like this initially, after a long time of friendship with someone it can subside. proximity can foster attraction to a point but after a very long time and you get over the hump proximity can induce a sort of brother/sisterly friendship. some of my male friends may still feel this way, but i’m conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:07 AM
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no. it has not. you’ve never given an actual rebuttal to it, or explained what really makes it different
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 11:41 PM
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i’d want them to focus on themself and the rest will most likely follow. the most they develop their hobbies and skills the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 10:28 PM
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you used an entirely different example- statutory rape. neither is consistent. each is either not “adult dating” or just not the right age gap. they both don’t fit the scope
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 10:27 PM
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YES. I DID. MY MISTAKE. and then YOU did the same thing i did, AFTER clarifying the scope of your argument you used an example OUTSIDE of said scope as well. you did the same thing i did
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 08:44 PM
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ONE was mine. ONE was yours. we BOTH brought up an example out of your scope. you did it AFTER you clarified the scope though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:45 PM
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no it hasn’t. you’ve simple told me you “won” that one and ive ignored it because supposedly it’s not even valid to include it in the argument anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:45 PM
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clarifying your scope and then using an example OUT of your scope
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:44 PM
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can you explain how i lost that one? if it’s not relevant to the argument it doesn’t matter who “wins or loses” so it’s wrong to bring up both then right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:43 PM
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your contribution was entirely straw manning my arguments to oblivion and providing no sound rebuttal. how many times are you going to tell me have a nice day? it’s really funny how you do that yet respond every time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:45 PM
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ah so yes, it was wrong to use the statutory rape example. right? if not, my anecdotes involving that will probably knock you out of the park if you REALLY think anecdotes are enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:44 PM
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ah. random nonsense. thanks i’ll contemplate that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:36 PM
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great cop out. victory at last
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:31 PM
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what do you even mean by this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:30 PM
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cant find anything. i looked. maybe you misunderstood me earlier
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:25 PM
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neither is raping children. make an actual point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:25 PM
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you’re making the claim that i said it, not me. but if you want to use this cop out you can
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:20 PM
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my anecdote was simply to say that it’s different in different social circles. NOT claiming anything about the majority. NEITHER of us could use anecdotes to make claims about the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:20 PM
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neither should get the better treatment, but you’re going off on a tangent. either both examples are acceptable or both are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:14 PM
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where, where did i say that these different circles would constitute majority opinion??? anecdotes ARE enough to prove that some circles are different. you are the only one who is arguing that yours is majority opinion. im not even saying yours is necessarily NOT majority opinion, just that you don’t have sufficient evidence to prove it. i challenged your claims as you have been unable to prove them. i am not saying your claims are necessarily false, just that we DONT KNOW. you’ve taken a heavie…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:13 PM
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and you bring up statutory rape when you said adult dating. i don’t see how you can’t understand this??? if one example can’t be used then neither can
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:02 PM
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then maybe explain in a way that is clear and concise how what i’ve done is any different than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:49 PM
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simple- don’t bring up statutory rape cases when you have clarified that you are only talking about adult dating and we can not use any other similar examples. i’m sorry you can’t understand
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:48 PM
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that doesn’t mean i lost the argument. it just means that just one of my claims is not applicable to it. but that also means your statutory rape claims are not applicable as well
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:23 PM
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yeah my current relationship is the oldest i’d be comfortable with. he’s just three years older than me. prior to that i’d never dated anyone older than me. our place in life is not so different though. he’s had it rough in some ways. honestly im closer to my career aspirations than he is, but he’s had more real work experience so we both have things in different areas. i’ll probably help him go to college if my degree pans out the way i think it will and if he hasn’t been able to by then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:53 PM
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horniness does not cause the type of discomfort some people’s periods cause. if you’re horny there’s a quick fix, masturbate. it’s not the same. but you’re also not expected to tolerate women being a total bitch because of it. maybe expected to tolerate being slightly irritable and unable to function as well because of discomfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 03:23 PM
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it just kinda sounds like rambling with no point here. the simple truth is that you could broaden the scope yet i couldnt. but if we REALLY want to bring older people going after children into it i would bet money that i have more experience being around that than you. so more years of anecdotes for me then. your whole point was that i couldn’t use experiences from when i was younger because it’s adult dating. but apparently i can
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:33 PM
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it’s like you’re trying to put the circle shape into the triangle hole in one of those children’s toys. it doesn’t work as evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:27 PM
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but it is not what you were talking about. you were talking about ADULT DATING. you made it very clear i could not use an example that didn’t fit that description
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:40 AM
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anecdotal evidence is not sufficient to substantiate these claims
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:39 AM
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again. p r o v e. i t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:22 AM
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and statutory rape is not dating. it’s like you’re not even reading this stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:22 AM
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yes more than me. but to prove anything you don’t just need more than me. you need an actually large random sample size. we’re not talking about who has experienced more out of the two of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:08 AM
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you’re missing my point entirely. it’s apparently only allowed when it “puts an exclamation point” on your claim. not when it goes against it. you will only narrow the focus when it suits you. and broaden it when it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:07 AM
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being alive is not enough to prove that. you can keep making the same claims without evidence all you want
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:54 AM
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you made it very clear you were talking about adult dating. you would not give a teenage example the time of day. so we can use these other examples but only when it benefits you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:53 AM
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i do know about that. but a random sample would be sufficient. you’re telling me what you think the results WOULD be but you don’t have the results. you can say “this would be the case” all you want but that’s still an unbacked assertion
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:44 AM
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i understand that, but 1. the court of public opinion is not going to be the exact same as literal court. 2. this is assault on minors, not the adult relationships you were talking about. 3. i’ve seen men get very light sentences for the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:43 AM
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this isn’t something that would be very difficult to quantify. a survey would do the trick, though i do agree that many other things are
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:27 AM
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yes. that would be a way to settle this. likely the only way with sufficient evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:26 AM
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the evidence is not evidence because it is not substantiated. you are making claims with no backing. i’d say grow up but i think you’re set in your ways
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:25 AM
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that is not a way to test it. we would need a random survey of large sample size.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:22 AM
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