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Pretty privilege is a thing, get over it, life is not fair and water is wet. Yes, the less attractive a guy is, the more creepy he seems to women. Get over it, no one cares. Gents focus on building a better life for yourself. Make friends, go around the world, have some hobbies, focus on your careers. Those women can now be insulted that you are making a better for yourself life without them. Haters are gonna hate. I'm 50+ and long past my prime, If I tried to flirt, I'm likely to get SWATed lol…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:22 PM
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Cold approach enough, it's bound to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:46 PM
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If you believe 18 yr old girls are just ready to drop their panties because some 45 year old with dosh is hot for them, I wish more girls would listen to their mothers and fathers. You would be surprised how often it happens especially if the guy doesn't approach her first. I've turned down a few girls because they were too young even as late as my early 50's. I'm not that tall, not particularly good looking, I'm not rich, I try not to hang around younger women if I can help it and it still happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 09:15 PM
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She also said that people who are in age gap relationships should be bullied, shamed, and assaulted. There are more like her out there who will happily do the Karen thing. It's not just older women, younger ones too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 09:01 PM
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They like using it as a social weapon down the road. In any case, I find it better to avoid being around younger women in general as I've gotten older.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:54 PM
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Women don't generally approach directly. A few women might go the direct route, but most women use some kind of pretext or attention getting behaviors to talk to a guy. Once she has him talking, she will eventually drop a bunch of hints for him to ask her out. You are correct, whether she is direct or indirect, if a woman is not approaching you or trying to get your attention or finding reasons to talk to you, she is not into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:46 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:32 PM
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Cultural thing I guess, or those guys were just a$$hats. A female friend making a move on a guy would not qualify as creepy. It would make his month. If he wasn't interested, he may have to finesse things. To qualify as creep a woman has to pull a weapon, slash tires, gouges paint on car, make harassing phone calls or worse. Usually, it takes multiple instances before she is seen as creepy, or the guy stops getting blamed. Everything else a woman does generally only count as annoying. Yeah, I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:22 PM
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Very true. Women and men's experiences differ. How ever, if a girl develops feelings, it's kind of accepted. I still feel bad about the girls in the friends group I've turned down or I didn't react to their flirting attempts. Poor girls, I tried to let them down easy. When a guy develops feelings, he is almost always automatically the creep who only became friends to date or sleep with a girl in the group. Caveat: she is interested in him, which is not too often then it's OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 03:44 PM
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Most guys never see the change, make an unwanted move and now he is getting blasted in all his social circles. I've only experienced a female friend or acquaintance becoming attracted when she wasn't initially 3 times. Mostly I heard lots of angry complaints from women about guys only being friends to try and date them. So, I adopted a strict policy of NO FWB and not dating friends, yeah, those 3 women were pissed when I turned them down, not fun. When I said strict no dating friends, no FWB, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:30 PM
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You must of made your move after her attraction shifted. For most guys that attraction shift never happens. Finally, the fool confesses and makes an unwanted move, then she feels betrayed and angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:18 PM
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Nope, he is deluded creep who thinks he has a shot so he makes himself into her tool. The second he makes an actual move, she kicks him to the curb and many will do their level best to get him kicked out of that social circle. Once I get put in the friends bucket so does she. She becomes one of the guys and is treated as such. I have a strict, don't date or have sex with female friends policy. Some women have gotten mad, because I follow that policy to the letter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:05 PM
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Women are either interested or not. If not, at best you are an acquaintance. Trying to date in your social circle, you will end up replacing that social circle fairly regularly. Women hate being hit on be male "friends" even more than that hate being cold approached by guys they don't find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:52 PM
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He would be fired
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/24 09:42 PM
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Creep is a sliding scale that varies by individual. The less attractive a guy is the more likely he is seen as creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:30 PM
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Why do you have to strawman? Ok she won't call the cops, she'll take a picture of you, show to her friends, one of her friends will suggest to complain to security and you'd be kicked out of the venue for harassment or her male friend decides to show how manly he is and decides to confront you While a lot more likely than a woman calling the cops, juiced up bouncers and relatively drunk group of friends are nothing to scoff at. Bouncers work in groups and are often meat heads juiced up on steroi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:28 PM
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Cold approaching women sucked well before metoo and at best it's a waste of time. Even weak sauce attempts of 3 to 5 minutes of small talk and then politely excusing yourself without asking for a number because you knew it was going nowhere were seen as annoying by many women. And to quite a few women angrily viewed it as entitled, even rapey. Those women were seen as crack pots back then, today not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:08 PM
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Or you assume she wants to be bothered at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:45 PM
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The sliding scale for what is creepy is simply a way of justifying attacking/jailing men in general for social, political and economic gain. We can all agree certain behaviors are vile and need to go. However, that creepy/rapey scale slides, so a guy is never sure of where the actual line is. Even if a I'm not involved but because some other idiot did something I'm now suspect or guilty. When dealing with all women its: yes ma'am, no ma'am, no excuse ma'am or go f*ck off ma'am.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:43 PM
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The real reason is because men are scared to approach and scared of getting rejected. They are afraid of rejection because there are serious potential consequences. Creep the wrong woman out and you will see what happens. The definition of creepy varies greatly from person to person. We can agree on the obvious and basic bad behaviors like getting handsy, not taking no for an answer, staring etc... How ever there are many behaviors that fall far below that bar that qualify depending on the peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:28 PM
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Cold approaches were invented by dating coaches to desensitize men to rejection, showing them nothing bad would happen. The Idea was eventually when a woman shows some interest in him, he will ask her out. Cold approaching was never an effective strategy to even getting a conversation started, let alone getting a phone number or date. Success was measured in if you can get 2 to 5 minutes of small talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:05 PM
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n T agree with the threat of violence. But women being crazy creepy is more common than you think. I had an anonymous note on my car with pretty girlie handwriting and purple ink. It said "I know where you've been". I proceeded to park my car a 2 blocks away in a different lot for about three months after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 10:14 PM
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A guy being legitimately creepy is a legitimate threat to be put down hard. A woman being legitimately creepy is simply annoying, except for pedos, kids male or female don't know any better. What chaps my a$$ is awkward behavior rising to sex offender status and the open season mentality people have on all men are creeps to be put down.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 10:07 PM
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The issue arises only when they don't back off when I tell then I'm not interested, and they insist This is true. ​ Most women genuinely don't mind being respectfully asked out, That depends on a lot of things. I'm 50+ asking a 25 year old out on a date is creepy AF no matter how respectful I am. Even if she is 45+ but doesn't find me attractive, the easier it is to see me as a creep no matter how polite I think I am. ​ like this guy did. If you were referring to the guy in the OP's example. I r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:11 PM
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No one cares if a man feels uneasy. If a woman feels uneasy, people care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 10:57 PM
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If he approached in order to ask what time it was, that wouldn't be creepy. That depends, a guy intimidating enough or simply odd and unattractive. Creepy. I have a smart phone, I don't have a need to ask anyone let alone a woman the street for the time or directions. She will immediately suspect something is up. So, if I ask a woman for the time, I say thank you and move on quickly to put as much space between me and her as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 10:55 PM
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I'm a guy. The guy in your example was being creepy, hands down. There are things that you simply do not do. Approaching women on the street at dusk is one of the things you don't do. Now it is true that, the less attractive a you are the higher the standard you will be is held too. More things about you make her feel very uncomfortable. Even relatively minor behavior behaviors becomes creepy and actionable as threats. Brief eye contact becomes leering and staring, being friendly becomes unwante…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 10:47 PM
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Not in my experience. Many are cool about it, many are absolutely not cool about it. It why my go to play is to play dumb lol
/r/MensRights21/09/23 07:02 PM
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It is never worth it. It makes for a funny romcom real life it will land you in jail for stalking and other crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:28 PM
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There is a % of women that do go after older men 30+, for relationships and kinks and are not just gold digging. It's not as many as TRP/Seduction likes to brag about but it's a hell of a lot more than many women are willing to admit. Many of the women complaining about guys going after much younger women chased older guys in their younger days. That said, many people will view you as a predator and will act accordingly. It didn't happen very often because I tended to avoid women under 25 when I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:02 PM
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Thing about prestigious jobs, they are extremely cut throat and competitive. Once the sharks start seeing women as competition, they will not be so keen to take on those jobs. Leadership jobs you have to lead and bring victory or you are gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:48 PM
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Truth bomb
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:45 PM
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He is full of it. If you are not born into that 5% tier, no amount of work and success will overcome genetics. If she is settling for you, she will resent you. Now improving your life for you is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:44 PM
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It may be just a random thing. Messed up.
/r/MensRights04/03/23 05:07 PM
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Proof is only required to put someone in jail. 3rd party a$$hats looking to start trouble don't need proof.
/r/MensRights03/03/23 05:33 PM
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Lawyer up. Get you facts, dates and times in order. If you have not had sex, you can't be a rapist. So, list out any girl you have had sex with, made out with or tried with to have sex or make out with, tried to flirt with or tried to talk too maybe you were too friendly etc... That shouldn't be a long list at your age (no offense guys don't generally get a lot of opportunities) Also list out any girls that tried to get with you. Someone may be getting vindicative.
/r/MensRights03/03/23 05:30 PM
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Bingo
/r/MensRights03/03/23 05:20 PM
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If drugged and beaten down, I know I couldn't get it up. Yeah, I've learned not to reject women directly, especially if she is drunk. I double down on playing dumb to avoid the drama and it helps her save face. It is no fun and people give you the evil eye.
/r/MensRights02/03/23 06:53 PM
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A guy may get one or he may not. As for women harassing guys harassment the danger comes from 3rd parties getting involved or she pulls a weapon. Numbers wins generally, weapon and surprise wins over your skill and strength generally. The only time I felt danger was when she was making a scene or I believed she was underaged (that sh!t is terrifying BTW).
/r/MensRights01/03/23 08:08 PM
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True that
/r/MensRights28/02/23 11:28 PM
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The only way a guy is going to get violently raped by a woman is if she drugs him. Everything else only rises to the level of harassment. No cop will get involved unless the guy gets violent. Yes, I've been harassed by women who didn't take no for an answer. Pain in the ass and not fun, on even had her pack of friends jump in. I was able to break free, the hardest part was doing it with no violence. My biggest worry was 3rd parties drunk bystanders, bouncers police misunderstanding what was goin…
/r/MensRights28/02/23 11:24 PM
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Lawyer up sue for damages and never go back to that club.
/r/MensRights28/02/23 11:11 PM
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Good the truth is out
/r/MensRights28/02/23 11:08 PM
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Like drug dealers
/r/MensRights28/02/23 11:03 PM
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Friend, let me give you some free advice: women are not "better" anywhere else. True that, they just hide it better.
/r/MensRights28/02/23 11:02 PM
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They aren't entitled to sex either but forget its a two way street.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:31 PM
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But I do believe it's kind of a stretch going from pedo abusive uncle to a normal consensual relationship between two adults who are honests and responsible, People will automatically make that stretch regardless of the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:29 PM
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Bingo. The strategy also makes sure that society is willing to protect women regardless of the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:06 PM
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Pedos trying to normalize it or they are just trolls. I run from teens
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:56 PM
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Got to keep that halo untarnished and the suckers gaslit and guessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:40 PM
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Women are cheating way more than any previous generation. Women are admitting more now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:31 PM
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You would be surprised at how bold and aggressive women can be. Women are indirect but certainly not subtle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:27 PM
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I second everything you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:25 PM
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If poly- works like a form of married couple cheating, basically people are free to choose who they bang, its impact will not be that much different than cheating couples. What we see today. Trouble starts to happen when 1 male or 1 female controls the economic output and sexual access to 3-6 or more individuals on a large scale, classic plural marriage. You will start to see detrimental imbalances then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:59 PM
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The best thing about TRP was the self-improvement stick. The average Woman could teach TRP/PUA a few new tricks. Two recent memorable events involved 2 different women who tried to game me right under my spouse's nose. Yes, both of them knew I was married. Both of these ladies had big brass balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 03:54 AM
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2017 made the game obsolete for most men. The knowledge is still there it's just pretty much useless as far as picking up women for the average guy. The safest MO post #METOO is a woman is NOT interested until SHE proves otherwise. As for women picking up men, yeah PUA game is alive and well. Yes, women use PUA tactics, and few tactics their male counter parts wouldn't even dream of trying. So, if a guy was getting hit on by women before or at least getting IOIs, that has not changed for him. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 03:42 AM
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It will still lead to very unstable societies. Excess young men, free time, + booze = recipe for trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 02:18 AM
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Where are all these men? I have mostly experienced the complete opposite, meaning men who take everything as a hint. Often it’s difficult to convince them otherwise. Even when you tell them “I’m not interested at all”. They are not the ones coming up to you. I start at assuming a woman is not interested until she proves otherwise. It makes life simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:18 PM
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Although DIRECTLY asking you out? As a joke? It happens in middle and high school; it will stop after that. It happens as a form of social bullying. After high school it gets too dangerous, and most adults don't find it funny. Those scars never really leave a person. Once it happens to you, you get cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:11 PM
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My ultimate question is, what do feminists mean by redefining masculinity? All societies are built on the backs of cheap disposable labor. Feminists, their allies and enablers want power and control. They also want cheap cheap labor and debt slaves. Demonizing men makes it easy to sideline and eliminate many men deemed undesirable from competition from jobs, power and resources. In states where it is legal, demonizing makes most men easy targets for the prison industrial complex and defacto slav…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:04 AM
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The dummies outnumber the smart ones and they vote too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:44 AM
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movement made by white women for the benefit of white women is another. Well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:39 AM
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That will work for a short while. People will hide their wealth via corruption, control of key government positions and jobs etc.... Eventually people (other factions) will want that money earmarked for their special projects and needs. And that's when things get really nasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:37 AM
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Everyone is at risk of becoming cheap disposable labor now.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 12:05 AM
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Thank brother
/r/MensRights08/11/22 11:59 PM
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Keep your junk in your pants, stay sober and focus on the prize gents. You are there to get an education and degree, make some friends and then move on. A lot of these charges are avoidable, out of sight out of mind, stealth mode. What everyone seems to forget "...You are not entitled to sex..." is a 2-way street, women want sex too, maybe not with your or I, but the ladies want sex from somebody. So let the let the ladies chase that d!ck. Now you are free to focus on what you want and your goal…
/r/MensRights08/11/22 11:46 PM
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The purpose is to create the next pool of cheap disposable labor.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 11:21 PM
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Document, document, document, report every incident to the police. Document every incident the police do nothing. Prepare to sue. Also purchase a weapon of some kind incase it goes that far.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 11:17 PM
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Or if she's just playing dumb to hold onto the power that nebulous definition of consent and rape/SA gives her. Bingo, that is the weapon she is trying to yield right there. With no clear definition, anything can be sexual harassment, assault or rape. A yes means no type of thing. There are weaknesses in the weapon, it relies on the hallo effect women claim and the assumption women don't like or really want sex which we all know both are BS. A lot of women want sex, like sex and some get downrig…
/r/AntiFeminists27/10/22 06:31 PM
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Best defense against MeToo is don't harass, minimize sexual activity and generally don't be around. Out of sight out of mind. You can't rape is you don't have sex; you cannot sexually assault/harass if you are not around. Next best is to record and document your activities, go out with a wing man and watch each other's 6. I've taken the most extreme feminazi definitions of rape, sexual assault, harassment and operate if those are the law of the land. Cold approaches, nope. Inviting women over al…
/r/MensRights27/10/22 05:59 PM
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Simple, when at college don't date, don't have sex. Get your degree and get out. College is like work now, don't shit where you eat.
/r/MensRights22/09/22 01:29 AM
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It happens more than people realize, how ever the rules rarely get applied that way.
/r/MensRights22/09/22 01:21 AM
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Welcome to equality
/r/MensRights22/09/22 01:18 AM
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Truth
/r/MensRights22/09/22 01:09 AM
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Thank you, you get used to it and continue mission.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 05:57 PM
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That's called hyperfocus
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:25 PM
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If you are a guy society doesn't care about you unless you are useful. If you are a guy with ADHD or ASD, society sees you as a threat to be dealt with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:21 PM
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Many autistic guys get bullied early on by both girls and boys. The message gets sent: Stay away, you are NOT wanted here. Approaching a girl who you do not know is interested ain't easy. If you have been bullied you don't necessarily feel safe doing it. You learn to hide your interest because just liking a girl would be enough to trigger another round of harassment, social isolation. Even if a girl is flirting with you, you don't believe she is actually flirting or interested. Fight or flight k…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:16 PM
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very true
/r/MensRights16/08/22 07:40 PM
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The only way to prevent it is to be out of site out of mind. And even then it is not a 100% defense.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 07:29 PM
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Rules for men Men are always assumed to be the threat. That will not change. The woman decides what harassment, sexual assault or rape is. It may not pass legal muster but an effective legal defense will cost thousands. There are other social costs. Always assume a woman is not interested until proven otherwise. If a woman seems to be flirting, she is not, she is just being polite, its only wishful thinking. Don't flirt or appear too friendly. It is highly likely showing romantic/sexual interest…
/r/MensRights16/08/22 07:28 PM
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A lot of people struggle with social cues. When my friends bring up "harassing" men they interact with, I ask if they've indicated WHATSOEVER that they are bothered. The answer is always no. Women love to talk about unfair social standards, but men cannot have a conversation without ridicule if they deviate from this undefined guideline of Female Interaction. A guy is always assumed to be the threat. Unfortunately many guys are threats so there is a reason for that assumption. That assumption wi…
/r/MensRights16/08/22 07:17 PM
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Lawyer up. Understand this, stalking, sexual assault are serious charges. Keep you distance, break contact from her, let your lawyer do the talking for you. As for what constitutes stalking, sexual harassment, there is very specific language in the law. Unfortunately, in practice: stalking and sexual harassment is what ever a woman decides it is. Learn to keep your distance form women in general. Out of site out of mind.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 06:38 PM
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White woman hands down. A black man can killed for being black. White soccer moms nearly coronated Hillary Clinton in 2016 level of power. The prettier she is or the higher her social status she has the more havoc she can cause your life.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 06:31 PM
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It sets a precedence. For years the language of the law was gender neutral, enforcement never was.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 06:21 PM
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Harder to believe but possible.
/r/AntiFeminists09/07/22 09:09 PM
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Oh most certainly.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 08:01 PM
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While true, you cant get blood from a stone but you can break that stone. That may have been the point in your case. That was about revenge not caring for the child. At some point enough guys are going to stop caring and a tipping point will be reached where choas is preferable. We may be close to that now.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 08:00 PM
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Remember gents "you are not entitled to sex" is a two way street. She is not entitled to sex either. Keep you d!ck in your pants or wrap it.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 03:00 PM
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She said right to my face, “no one cares about you.” No truer statement has ever be said. Your problems are your problems, her problems are your problems. What women forget that it can cut both ways.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 02:45 PM
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Sex strikes are a joke. Women get horny as f*ck and are already f*cking they guys they want, so women will continue to bang those guys. The guys women don't want to f*ck weren't getting laid anyway.
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 09:33 PM
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It is no parody, it is how the law will get enforced.
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 09:24 PM
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In a DUI, she cannot blame anyone else. No one else was involved she chose to drink In a drunken hook up, any woman can claim she was taken advantage of and poof its the guys fault. Remember these rules were written to protect upper class white women from black men, immigrants and lower class white men.
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 09:21 PM
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True.
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 09:12 PM
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This is the best PSA poster a guy can see because it does not hide the truth on how it will go down for a guy. Guys had better understand that this double standard exists. There too many Karen's and too many fathers with daughters for that double standard to go away. The best way to avoid this is to not bang drunk chicks, period. By drunk, she had any kind of booze at all.
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 09:11 PM
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Also: groping men with a group of woman is sexual assault and should be punishable. Good luck getting a conviction
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 08:53 PM
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Recordings and apps are useless. A woman can be humping your leg, begging for sex and you can still be accused, even charged. One can claim that obviously the poor woman was drunk, high or not in her right state of mind.
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 08:49 PM
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Sorry this happened to you and thank you for the warning. I hope other head it
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 08:44 PM
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Brazenly false accusations made to law enforcement are not as common as guys think. You can disprove them pretty easily. Its that gray area that is harder to disprove add in race and class and things get very dicey from there. But what is common is miscommunication and double standards that can lead to a lot of trouble. Harassment, consent, incapacitation and coercion. We can all agree on the basics definitions of those four words. How ever well all know harassment, consent, incapacitation and c…
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 08:43 PM
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Do you have some form of autism? Serous question. If you don't know you may want a diagnosis. Were you bullied, to include social bullying? You don't have to answer but those may explain your aversion.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 11:12 AM
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You're assuming I want the hand job. After being in an abusive marriage, I'll pass. I'll settle for being left in peace. Once my kids are adults I'm checking out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 03:14 PM
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There are roughly 103 males for every 100 females on average in the under 35. The younger you go the worse the imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:19 PM
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As for motive, for some fear or anger on a personal level. Or a social weapon to gain power over others.Other women will claim harassment to protect a reputation or hide an affair. On a macro level wedge issue in the culture the wars. Getting harassed was cute until I said no and the women didn't back off, made a scene, got really pushy. What had me worried was 3rd parties getting involved and blaminging me for the trouble. That's would have been no fun. At least one woman had her posse there to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:12 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:00 PM
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If you are getting bad responses with what you call "showing interest" you are probably harassing them lol. Women like to define what harassment is as to what ever is convenient for them. Guys like hightailed, just make it easier for women to move that needle. Pretty soon just nodding hello will be considered problematic. I've been sexually harassed and cat called by women at clubs/bars/dates. I can tell the difference, as a guy that behavior would have gotten the attention of security and polic…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:38 PM
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A general metoo publicity mess, you are correct. How ever, a woman claiming I threatened her to police will cost me time and money. Especially if she and her family are well connected. There are enough laws on the books that the cops can find something to "detain" and charge me with. A woman complaining to my company HR may get me walked off for cause. Especially if cops were involved. No one is going to hear that I politely approached and politely went away. The only story that will be told and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:18 PM
1

Why stick around for someone or a society that treats you like crap off you anything. I have to have something to work for. I don't need sex and women can flip the script in a heart beat. After years in an abusive marriage my trust is way past broken. I'll settle for cash and to be left in peace to do my thing. F*ck with my money or don't leave me in peace, well....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:52 PM
3

Once that switch flips its absolutely liberating actually. Oh, on a few occasions women start putting moves on you. You know all those creepy things guys try to do to get with women, Yeah women do that shit too. While it doesn't happen very often, it does happen. So if a woman wants your attention and get you to approach her, she is going to have to earn it. Otherwise you are free free free to do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:33 AM
2

Women aren't entitled to sex either. Now free from the constraints of a family guys have no incentive to love hold and protect. He has no stake in society. At some point guys like that start wondering why register for the draft, why pay all these taxes, why even work hard especially to support some guy with a harem or some click of chicks who treats him like garbage. Many will say f*ck society. Others will rebel and not in a nice way. Once no one is willing to defend society, it rots and festers…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:26 AM
0

Unstable society, more crime and, violence as men check out or radicalize, if things get bad enough you might get a low grade civil war that goes on for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:50 AM
1

Women are turned on by being desired. By guys they are attracted too. If she doesn't find you attractive, she will be really turned off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:47 AM
4

Simple solution, don't approach. Its a quick kick to the shins of the dating market. It is totally freeing as well, you can go about your business without wasting mental energy on wondering how to approach some random chick, or how feels about you. You stop giving a sh!t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:39 AM
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Make the wrong woman uncomfortable and you will get to see first hand why many guys are apprehensive about approaching. Being creepy is not benign, its a threating act. Honestly unless unless you know her or have been introduced or she is actively trying to get your attention you are generally better off NOT approaching her. At best it's a waste of time, she doesn't want to talk to you. It wrecks a man's mental state and gives 4th wave feminazis more #MeToo rope to hang men with. At worst approa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:17 AM
1

True until they end up in a dead bedroom or an abusive relationship. After that no sex is better than bad sex. After an abusive relationship, no sex better than great sex. Please head any red flags you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:20 PM
1

Why be with someone who puts in no effort back. Screw pillow princesses like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:44 AM
1

I don't cold approach. The whole practice need to die. My comment about random small talk was to take into account random conversations happen. Those random conversations are not opportunities for a guy to shoot his shot and ask for socials.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:16 PM
1

Hi sexy is certainly creepy. I take it one step further, the act of a guy the approaching is creepy . She didn't want to talk to me and I have no legitimate reason to talk to her. Society is kind of moving in that direction, I'm just ahead of the curve. At most having some random small talk, then moving on is acceptable. No pickup, no exchanging numbers. Random stuff happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:52 PM
1

True. If anything, that "fat" friend may have saved the guys ass. If a girl is truly interested she'll find away.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:44 PM
2

Women hate any activity that doesn't benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:25 PM
0

Bingo. Only a matter of time before it becomes badly written legislation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:22 PM
0

Only if you define success as 2 minutes of chit chat and moving on. 99.9999% of the time the result is not interested in even 2 minute random small talk. Caveat, she had been trying to get your attention all night and engineered the encounter. Otherwise cold approaching is harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:56 PM
0

Angry woman calls police, police takes care of the problem, you. The gut is always the problem, that goes double for minorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:51 PM
1

Reading the room works until it doesn't. There are a bunch of women who will state those invitation signals ment nothing and attack a guy as entitled. Had it happen to a time or two. 20+ years ago, that was a pretty clear sign. Today, I'd pass on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:45 PM
0

They were on guard 20 years ago, it was just more acceptable as long as the guy moved on politely. Now even a polite reaction is still harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:38 PM
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That is still harassment, she didn't want the approach to begin with. New era, new rules, guys do not have an automatic right to approach women. Better we had get used the way the rules are evolving before more crappy legislation gets on the books.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:37 PM
1

That was true 20 years ago. Cold approaching women uninvited even in venues like clubs, bars is now falling under harassment. Now if she invites you over somehow or you get introduced that is not a cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:32 PM
1

If a girl is not putting any effort, move on
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:21 PM
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There aren't any acceptable places. That era has passed. Here is the upside, Now a guy can focus on stuff he is interested in. Women cannot be passive and have signal approach me some how or do some approaching of her own. A return to some kind of ritual where people can approach, accept or decline safely without reprocussions. What we have now is in addition to the legal definition, harassment is what ever a woman decides it is. Even a 3rd party. So cold approaching women is harassment, dont do…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:18 PM
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It is a lame double standard, but it one that is not going away. No father with a daughter, brother with a sister or mother will allow it. All men and boys had better be made aware of the double standard and act accordingly. I If a guy is going to get drunk he had better have a good wingman providing top cover. He needs to c0ckblock you/her, not help you get laid. For those guys that have not experienced it, yes any woman can be very sexually aggressive. Yes as in creepy frat boy/jock level aggr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/22 09:09 PM
1

They wanted you gone and this was a handy reason. Also this is a private organization, innocent until proven guilty only applies to law enforcement.
/r/MensRights23/05/22 08:42 PM
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Not hard to imagine. All too easy actually. Here is what is likely to ensue after such an encounter. If the guy reports it, he gets threatened for making a false report or laughed at. If he does report the incident, and it's is investigated, she was drunk or high too, well he gets charged for raping her. Far easier to sell to a judge or jury. If a guy is getting drugged, it is far more likely for it to be part of a robbery attempt or scam. The other way a guy is most likely to get in trouble is …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/22 08:24 PM
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Sorry man adhd brain. Irony is by not making a move, you peaked their curiosity and became "attractive" to them. That's only reason why the hose girls asked. Fun fact Younger women do chase much older men, not as much as guys would like to believe, but a lot more than many people would like to admit. Warning: If you act on it though you are now the predator to any harpy looking to boost herself at your expense.
/r/MensRights13/05/22 09:36 PM
2

Damn broo
/r/MensRights13/05/22 09:21 PM
2

Good advice but honestly many if not most guys are better off not approaching randos. Maybe engage in some random small talk then move on, until that gets labeled creepy. Honestly if she is interested, she'll try to get your attention. It's a pretty easy cold read.
/r/MensRights13/05/22 08:33 PM
1

True 20 to 25 years ago maybe. By today's standards just approaching is creepy.
/r/MensRights13/05/22 08:17 PM
1

Preach brother.
/r/MensRights13/05/22 08:13 PM
2

Damn, even gay broes aren't immune. Fuucccckkkk
/r/MensRights13/05/22 08:09 PM
1

But now, just making the approach seems to make you a toxic, aggressive, creepy product of the patriarchy. Let them stew in it. They will realize "you are not entitled to sex" is a two way street.
/r/MensRights13/05/22 08:07 PM
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No, in that context a random "can I help you" = you don't belong here. I can deliver and have delivered a "can I help you" in a way that meant "move along or I will kill you". I had my knife ready to go incase he was too stupid not to read the memo. He got the message loud and very clear.
/r/MensRights13/05/22 07:49 PM
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If had made a move, you would have been the creepy old guy.
/r/MensRights13/05/22 07:43 PM
1

I've seen that too... If she didn't try to flirt with you then she deserves not to have any dick.
/r/MensRights13/05/22 07:33 PM
1

Approaching felt creepy long before MeToo and OLD. What makes cold approaching woman creepy, it was always uninvited and unwanted. Women who want to be approached come in two basic types, those that are successful and those that aren't. Those women that aren't successful are very passive and you can't distinguish them from women who want to be left alone. If you can't tell if she is interested, leave her alone. More successful women send out signals of their own and are actively making attempts …
/r/MensRights13/05/22 07:29 PM
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Stupid is as stupid does. Computer forensics is very good. You can track exactly where the images came from, who was logged in, time stamps etc... The average person may be tech savvy but is not technical enough to really fool a good pro computer forensics person. Time line who had access to the phone when. If the only time kiddie porn was accessed was when the husband was around the wife.... Hmmmmmm. That's suspicious.
/r/MensRights13/05/22 11:46 AM
1

My standard for a drunk chick is about 1-2 drinks for the night or if I suspect she has been drinking I'll pass. Better to piss her off than to do jail time.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 06:37 PM
1

But the confused false accusations are more like what you're talking about here. The girl who has consensual sex with some guy she met at a party where alcohol was being consumed. She regrets her decision in the morning and tells her sorority sisters about the awful mistake she made. They are like "oh no, you were drinking, that's rape!" She buys into this line of reasoning and accuses her consensual partner of rape. This is why you don't have sex with drunk chicks period. Malicious or not the e…
/r/MensRights05/05/22 01:45 AM
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Also if you defended yourself properly you would be in prison right now. You did the best you could in that situation. Surprise and disbelief will have you freeze. First time a woman really got sexually aggressive with me wouldn't take no for an answer, I did not believe it was happening. TRP/PUAs could take lessons form this chick in psychological manipulation. I froze with her and fumbled around, until my feet got moving. In couple of other instances it would been harassment or sexual assault …
/r/MensRights05/05/22 01:30 AM
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but I'm not sure what their reasoning would be Disney parks and convention business brings in a lot of money. Women are the big financial drivers for those family vacations. Most convention/meeting planners are women or gay men. You don't insult your main customers. Disney princess movies are big draws as well. Marvel super hero movies make money Star Wars series (Mandilorian, Book of Fet, now Obi Wan) are breathing new life into a franchise that was mostly trashed by the more recent movies exce…
/r/MensRights05/05/22 12:52 AM
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I second this advice
/r/ExRedPill27/04/22 08:59 PM
2

Cold approaches are a waste of time unless you are just trying to have a short conversation (small talk and BS session. ) and that's it. No pick up. Even then the is a are she doesn't want to talk to you. The only time cold approach works was when the woman had tried to get the guys attention first. A man doesn't pick up woman unless she choses him first and gets his attention first.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/22 08:58 PM
2

And that is where the rule: Don't stick your dick in crazy, comes from. Jesus, that story reads like a bad novel.
/r/ExRedPill25/04/22 03:52 AM
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I side step their rules already. Out of sight out of mind. Younger women come with their own issues and drama. Society will blindly jump to protect her a$$ even if she is in the wrong. See Amber Heard. But you can't overtly say that. As for those other sandboxes you talk about, I've been to a few. What say is all fine and dandy until you start to threaten the local "Gentry". Or you accidently bang a wife or daughter of said gentry. My co worker got warned off because of this. You are ok to bang …
/r/ExRedPill22/04/22 12:20 PM
1

We are all better off playing in our own relatively small sandboxes. I've learned the hard way that society doesn't leave you alone. Older man fooling around with a younger women is one of the many ropes society can hang you with. I nearly had the cops called on me because my wife looked younger than me (we were only 2-3 years apart). Yes, I've been attacked and vilified because of other people's dirty deeds just because I was an easier target in an abusive relationship. My wife knew she will be…
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 04:38 PM
1

This guy is a creep.
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 02:02 AM
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Yes they were often immature, lacked a world view and wisdom so that is why I did not stick with any of them.... but "they" throw them selves at older men. Make NO MISTAKE, there is ALWAYS a large number of these younger women, who want to experience and older man. They, these younger women, may feel embarrassed to admit it to their girlfriends, due to social norms, but they chase the older men regardless. I agree more younger women throw themselves at older guys more than people would like to a…
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 01:56 AM
1

Many people treat it as the same thing now, laws haven't caught up yet.
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 01:47 AM
1

Yes, younger women in their 20's are cute, even hot, to glance at. Other than that, why would any sane man want to date a girl that young. Even when she is past the drama queen stage and she wants to settle down, get married, have a family then you end up in diaper stage again, NOOOOO!!! Leave the youngsters to the young bucks out there guys.
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 01:46 AM
1

It doesn't happen a whole lot but it does happen more than people will admit.
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 01:34 AM
1

Its safer to use use men as guided munitions. Fights are dangerous AF
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 01:03 AM
1

Just don't
/r/seduction20/04/22 11:22 PM
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They will come to that conclusion when he gets married then promptly divorced after a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:31 PM
1

No good, she'll resent you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:26 PM
1

Now that IS bad secret police level sh!t. You can't fight a shadow. A 3rd party with an axe to grind can report you. If even 40%-50% of the story is true you are truly hosed. If you are unpopular with certain staff and unpopular enough of your classmates the truth will not matter at all. You are hosed. You can be in title IX hell for years costing you time and money every time you are hauled in front of a board. It will cost the school time and money every time you are hauled up there. Seeing a …
/r/MensRights06/04/22 08:23 PM
1

Are there witnesses? Is there data putting you at the spot with her on or around week 6/25? Or was that 7/1 or 6/18. See if the spread is too big she loses credibility and reasonable doubt enters the equation. They still have to prove you encountered her within that period. The real problem after that becomes society at large not a jury. A mob may not care for finer points of pesky things like evidence.
/r/MensRights05/04/22 07:11 PM
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The best you can do is Don't give them any ammo Don't have sex or at least don't have sex with crazy, drunk or high chicks. By drunk has she had anything too drink that could potentially impair her. Don't harass, aka don't talk to, flirt or ask women out unless you are very sure she is very interested. She basically has to be harassing you and even then they will find a way to flip the script. Read up on what constitutes coercion, cat calling, harassment. Apply the most wide definitions of coerc…
/r/MensRights05/04/22 07:05 PM
1

Its also easier to make the guy out to be a weirdo or a predator. People don't see you as a victim if you are a guy. Gents never send nudes.
/r/MensRights04/04/22 11:19 PM
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LOL, NO It may work for maybe for male on male harassment and sexual assault. No parent with a daughter will allow a system to punish their daughters for sexually harassing/assaulting a guy. That script will get flipped into: 'he took advantage of her' some how. Female on male sexual assault will get ignored or the guy gets punished possibly arrested for filing a fake report. At worst you get hammered for "taking advantage of her" For those that don't know the kids that go to William and Mary ar…
/r/MensRights04/04/22 10:51 PM
1

The reporter has to reveal themselves on the form. Now granted my definition of sexual harassment is very different form yours or hers. Saying hello would constitute harassment to some. What is dangerous we are creating a tattle tale culture. If you are hitting on a girl, she is flirting back, a 3rd party can report you sexually harassing that girl, leaving you with a title IX investigation to deal with. Nothing will happen to the informant. Perfect way to get even with someone.
/r/MensRights04/04/22 10:37 PM
0

From guys I hear mainly nothing more than an obnoxious "woooooo" Guys know if they take things too far they'd get punched in the face (by her male protector) or arrested. Women are under no such restrictions. Comments thrown at me. "hmmm, that's how I like my men on their knees" "... you can poke me with a stick anytime..." If I'd have said something that graphic, I'd be in a fight over it or I'd get visit from the police. All a girl would have to say is I threatened her in the report.
/r/MensRights04/04/22 10:25 PM
3

Still ignore them,
/r/MensRights04/04/22 01:05 PM
2

There are those that have been punched in the face and those that have not. Those that have not expect to get away with stuff. Every guy should know a sexualized comment towards a kid is a threat. Threats get dealt with. In other words we expect to get punched in the face.
/r/MensRights04/04/22 12:55 PM
1

Power grab. If you can be vilified you can be destroyed without resistance or guilt.
/r/MensRights04/04/22 12:52 PM
2

Women don't like it when they find out 'you are not entitled to sex' is actually a two way street.
/r/MensRights04/04/22 12:50 PM
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That is something lost on guys. All sorts of accusations can be made, starting with grooming. God forbid something happens to the girls, your name is now tied to them. Simple guilt by association. In a situation like this the best thing anyone can do is ignore her antics then leave the area quickly. Swallow you pride and leave. Do Not engage, That way you are completely clean.
/r/MensRights04/04/22 01:31 AM
16

Just ignore them. It's not worth engaging with teen girls if you are an adult.
/r/MensRights04/04/22 01:23 AM
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Easy fix guys. Keep your hands to yourself, pants on and zipped. Rub one out when you get home. No worries about consent or how drunk she is. Done.
/r/MensRights03/04/22 06:40 PM
1

Sure but it would get sued out exhistance. You would have to allow females to join but you don't have to cater to them.
/r/MensRights02/04/22 04:55 PM
1

They are busy. If they were into you they would find a way to meet/hook up. Just accept it an move on.
/r/seduction01/04/22 08:30 PM
5

If she is ignoring me, I treat it as disinterest and move on
/r/seduction01/04/22 08:25 PM
1

Never send dick picks, so many things that can go wrong
/r/seduction01/04/22 08:23 PM
0

Yes and they all use the same tactics.
/r/MensRights30/03/22 11:30 PM
8

'silence is violence Only applies to women
/r/MensRights30/03/22 11:18 PM
1

They won't leave you alone
/r/MensRights29/03/22 05:33 PM
3

That is exactly why they want to eliminate male groups. It is to isolate men politically, economically then break him.
/r/MensRights29/03/22 05:32 PM
2

They all hate your hobby.
/r/MensRights29/03/22 05:27 PM
1

Consider your hobby psycho repellant. It's not just feminists, trad-con women feel the same way about their husbands. The only guys that don't get as much grief are those guys that women actually want to bang. If you want to have a hobby and friends, don't get a wife or a girlfriend. If you get yourself a girlfriend or a wife, you will ultimately lose your friends and your hobbies.
/r/MensRights29/03/22 05:25 PM
1

He can legally sue. It really depends on the jury, the judge, the lawyer he hires if he actually gets anything. The only reason he might get anything at all is because he has a wife and probably children that would be hurt by his suddenly becoming unemployable.
/r/MensRights29/03/22 05:21 PM
2

The only difference between a conservative feminist and liberal leftist feminist are the arguments they use to attack men and why. The south is a disguised matriarchy. If mama ain't happy nobody's happy is a very old saying for a reason.
/r/MensRights29/03/22 05:04 PM
1

Unfortunately, it will never happen
/r/MensRights29/03/22 04:59 PM
2

More likely her parents found out something happened and the girl decided roll over to avoid her parents wrath. Her parents got their confirmation bias and went to the police. To her parents of course their daughter is no whore, she was coerced, she was drugged, she was start struck that is the only reason she would willingly go with these men. She is a young girl that was taken advantage of. In reality she was 19, even though legally an adult she was still just a dumb kid. Dumb kids do stupid s…
/r/MensRights28/03/22 04:25 PM
1

They were lucky they admitted the video evidence at all. They were lucky that the definition of coercion hasn't been reduced to they are male, stronger and faster so she couldn't say no because of her safety.
/r/MensRights28/03/22 04:16 PM
1

The only reliable way to avoid accusations like this to keep your pants on and zipped up.
/r/MensRights28/03/22 04:09 PM
5

The first time it happened to me, it blew my f*cking mind. It shocked me how sexually aggressive women really can be. Women loath to admit it though, especially in certain parts of the country like the DC area. If more men understood that women want sex too, it would all but eliminate women's advantage in the dating/marriage market place.
/r/MensRights28/03/22 03:56 PM
3

3.1% of Boomer and Gen X women, that number seems low. It just means millennial women are more likely to admit their own transgressions. As for Boomer and Gen-x men, vs millennial men maybe they are more willing to lie or maybe millennial men have start to learn not to do rapey shit less often which would be a good thing. I think millennial men are under reporting. I've been sexually harassed by on 4 occasions by some rather drunk women who wouldn't take no for an answer. I don't think their has…
/r/MensRights28/03/22 03:51 PM
0

Good luck with that. Having to ask is a trap for guys women don't want. Any yes is basically worthless, you are bigger stronger so asking is a form of coercion. In other words asking the question itself is a threat. Here is the dirty secret, many women like to f*ck. When a woman wants it, she will use innuendo and off color jokes, shove her goods right in your face, grope you, cat call and hump your leg to get her point across. You won't have to ask except to be left alone if you are not interes…
/r/MensRights24/02/22 03:13 AM
1

Par for the course for being a guy. If there wasn't a video he'd be crucified
/r/MensRights24/02/22 02:44 AM
1

Constantly asking for consent is a trap. If you have to ask constantly, the answer is no, so don't bother asking keep your hands to yourself and move on. If you do ask, it can be flipped into you are threatening her, you are a creep, a pervert, a monster etc... Any verbal yes is worthless. If a woman consents, you won't have to ask for she will be shoving her goods in your face and harassing you to have sex.
/r/MensRights24/02/22 02:32 AM
1

It takes the spot light away from the their issues. Its a zero sum game
/r/MensRights24/02/22 02:13 AM
1

White women are not an oppressed class of people and pretending they are takes resources away from the people who actually need it. You don't know the half of it.
/r/MensRights24/02/22 02:05 AM
1

A woman's rights are based on the status of her family. Cross a powerful clan in any society at your own peril.
/r/MensRights24/02/22 01:51 AM
1

Polygamy only works if the alpha male is a total bastard. It also leads to a very unstable society or a brutally expansionist society.
/r/MensRights24/02/22 01:49 AM
1

No kidding.
/r/MensRights24/02/22 01:44 AM
1

Why would he date anyone after being falsely accused. The best way not to get accused of rape is to fly under the radar and not have sex.
/r/MensRights24/02/22 01:42 AM
1

Wing man or no wing man it made no difference. Besides my Wing man's job wasn't to get me laid, he was to keep me out of jail or worse when I got drunk lol. Honestly had more success when I just went out to have fun. Girls started sniffing around then.
/r/seduction15/02/22 12:35 AM
1

You will get a 3 minute conversation every 20 women or so. Out of 20 conversations you will get something where may think getting socials may be successful. Granted these are complete strangers in bars, clubs, "the street." Greater success will be found when you are introduced at parties.
/r/seduction14/02/22 09:25 PM
1

You can't draw blood from a stone
/r/MensRights09/02/22 01:43 PM
1

If you really want to kill this, give them what they want. Ignore women, don't try to date them or flirt with them. PUA cold approaching needs to die in a dumpster fire. Full military bearing and the 1000 yard stare trumps is the best RBF when walking down the street. Turning your back to women is effective as well. Clear sign you know they are there and you are ignoring them. When talking to women, keep it short, keep it safe, use ma'am a lot. That way if you seem civil. In mixed groups talk to…
/r/MensRights09/02/22 01:27 PM
1

F#ck your fear. It not my job to protect you. That's a good way to get killed, injured or arrested. Fights are chaos. Its not my job to go after some guy based on your word alone. That's how lynchings happened. That's how the central park five happened. I'll gladly leave you ladies alone, just leave me alone.
/r/MensRights09/02/22 01:15 PM
2

You can't always avoid trouble. And it happens more frequently than people realize. You can't stop the accusations but you can mitigate the damage. 1) Like you said chose wisely who you hang out with. 2) Then there is the obvious, don't rape, don't harass, don't be creepy in a sexual way. The hard stuff are the grey areas. When is being friendly too friendly = unwanted flirting = creepy = harassment. Women make this mistake too, guys aren't the only ones who engage in wishful thinking. I tend to…
/r/MensRights09/02/22 12:40 PM
1

Don't do it. Women a toxic to neurotipical men and death to those on the spectrum. If you get into a relationship, say good bye to your friends, hobbies, even your own family. Eventually you'll be saying good bye to your own kids when she divorces you. None of those friends and hobbies benefit her. Sex and the kids will be her lever to control you. If she uses project management software to track you honey do list, file for divorce immediately. You can bang a few that just want to fuck with no s…
/r/MensRights09/02/22 12:00 PM
1

Truth bomb.
/r/MensRights09/02/22 11:43 AM
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Adding using terms like " man child". "you are not entitled to sex", pretty much any feminist jargon and catch phrases are red flags. You are a symbol of everything that is wrong in the world.Concervative women are flip sides of the same coin but use other mechanisms and phrasing. Both tend to be slut and sex shamers. Both have the same message and tone: women are pure and men are lazy, worthlessness, violent, sex driven beasts. They intend to break you mentally while gaining access to you labor…
/r/MensRights09/02/22 11:41 AM
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Men are disposable unless we provide "value". Expecting fairness is fools errand. The rights you have are only those you can enforce. Lawyer up or educate yourself on how the system works.
/r/MensRights09/02/22 11:26 AM
1

Gender neutral laws are written to pass constitutional muster. Enforcement is rarely gender neutral.
/r/MensRights09/02/22 11:17 AM
1

She actually got someone convicted?
/r/MensRights09/02/22 11:11 AM
2

Stop having sex immediately. Record everything daily in journal, audio and video. Time date facts. Lawyer up and develop an exit plan
/r/MensRights09/02/22 11:07 AM
3

Yes it is. We make a big deal about when a female stalker finally actually gets investigated and it makes the news. Female stalkers and harassers aren't that rare. What's rare is a propper investigation that gets laughed out of the station or the script gets flipped and the guy gets charged. A white womans tears can get a man killed.
/r/MensRights09/02/22 10:58 AM
1

Its even more fun when they are drunk. PUAs, Creeps and drunk frat boys are amatuers in comparison in turning up the pressure and not taking NO for an answer. Some of the women I've turned down have been nice about it. I've always felt bad about those.
/r/MensRights09/02/22 10:46 AM
2

After that experience, I can't blame you.
/r/MensRights09/02/22 10:40 AM
6

Women forget the phrase"you are not entitled to sex" is a double edged weapon that cuts both ways.
/r/MensRights09/02/22 10:38 AM
7

One more reason to keep your pants on. Sluts and whores are honest. Sluts like to fuck, whores get paid to fuck. It's the women that use sex as bait, as a weapon and as a means of control that you have to worry about.
/r/MensRights09/02/22 10:31 AM
73

Sadly its pretty much true. Sorry brother.
/r/MensRights09/02/22 10:23 AM
6

They will arrest him as the larger threat to her and the children. ​ Just saying.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 06:55 PM
1

Stay out of it, DV cases lethal real quick and are unpredictable.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 06:54 PM
2

The truth of the matter is men have always had to compete and have always had to fight for their rights on some battlefield, or on some long distance high risk commercial venture sometimes deadly commercial venture. Now that said, if I have to be a better tool so be it. Pay me cash and stay out of my way. Competition is brutal I may win, I may lose, I may die. Frankly I don't care which but I will compete and if ladies don't like my methods, well tough. Welcome to equality ladies, we are all equ…
/r/MensRights31/01/22 10:26 PM
1

Simple answer. If a woman is interested, she will make it known. Only approach those women that want your attention, leave the rest alone. No cold approaching, no problem. Those women that don't want to be bothered, get left alone. The women who want the male attention, will get more obvious/agressive about it. Those interested women will have no choice but get "a bit pushy" tgemselves. After all "you are not entitled to sex or attention" is a two way street. Not white Knighting, giving women th…
/r/MensRights31/01/22 11:53 AM
1

Yup, funny as hell.
/r/MensRights31/01/22 11:41 AM
0

Easy fix, ask for the time, the say thank you and move on.
/r/MensRights31/01/22 11:32 AM
1

Honestly, I used to complain about not getting female attention. After I was married, I now complain about getting unwanted female attention of any kind. I avoid it, attention can be positive or negative.
/r/MensRights31/01/22 11:27 AM
3

Never send dick pics not ever.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 11:15 PM
5

Document your activity. But honestly your best defense is to be a ghost. Force her to lie. Once her story is on paper, that's when you drop truth bombs to blow up her story.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 10:21 PM
2

Don't give her ammunition, out of sight out of mind. Lies are most effective if they have some kernel of truth and are big. You cannot stop the big lie, but you can deny them the kernel of truth. Be a ghost, can't hit what you cannot see. Don't rape. Lol. Take the most insane definition of rape, sexual assault etc and operate as if that is the law of the land. If you do have sex, vet vet vet, don't put out until she gets pushy and humps your leg. When like sex too, maybe not with you. But the do…
/r/MensRights30/01/22 08:53 PM
6

Goid read, I've seen it play out that way. Never to the level of murder. I did learn a few things watching people go through this. 1) Document date time stamp. Be clinical about, was promised visitation at X time and date. Was refused because (give the reasons she gave). No exposition or commentary. Only facts. Document the incident immediately in a special journal. 2) Pay the minimum you are required and no more. Every spare dime should go to your legal war chest. 3)Lawyer up. 4) Keep your nose…
/r/MensRights30/01/22 08:46 PM
1

You are not very wise to the world. Women only do that kind of shit when they have backup. Women often manipulate their "protectors" into doing their dirty work for them. These protectors take on all the risks and consequences. Some women will start shit at the slowest "provocation" Taking away her protection immediately removes the greater threat to you and bulsters your self defense claims later. If she gets caught in the cross fire, so be it. Most women will abandon their protector after you …
/r/MensRights30/01/22 04:42 AM
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No honor in hitting a woman. No one will give you self defense for hitting a woman. Her boyfriend likely come to her defense and he is your greatest threat at that point. If she joins in, well she is free game at that point.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 04:30 AM
1

Lawyer up and document everything. Keep your cool and your mouth shut. Let the lawyers do the talking.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 03:53 AM
1

Very true. Honestly great care should be taken before even having sex, let alone jumping into any kind if relationships. And that is for nuerotypicals. ADHD or on the spectrum, sweet Jesus. Your wingman is there to save from yourself, not get you laid. Those conditions leave you very vulnerable to abuses if all kinds. Men with these conditions get labeled creeps, losers, weirdos etc... In extreme cases labeled as threats and threats get eliminated.
/r/MensRights29/01/22 05:12 PM
1

That's why we need allies.
/r/MensRights29/01/22 05:03 PM
1

Pure false allegations are not common but happen. They are more common than people like to admit. US society does has an interest in under reporting those false allegations. See central park karen What's more likely to happen is confusion as to what constitutes consent, rape and what constitutes attempted assault, attempted rape, harassment/ misconduct. Sure we call all agree NO means NO. What I am not sure of is does, yes actually means yes. hmmm. People can argue she could be "too afraid" to s…
/r/MensRights28/01/22 10:31 PM
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Hell Yes it includes POC. I say that as a mostly libertarian, relatively conservative cisgender white male. If Men's Rights doesn't include POC it needs too.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 07:28 PM
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While true, our Black, Brown and Asian brother bear even more of the brunt of the abuse.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 07:21 PM
1

Been sexually harassed by drunken women A few times. If the genders had been reversed, those would have qualified as sexual assault and attempted rape, especially by today's woke standards. Yup, I was the problem because I was the guy. I had to use the barest of minimum action to make my escape. Thank God I was sober. Any thing would have been an over reaction on my part. White women especially upper middle class Karen's know this.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 02:13 PM
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If those guys are that dumb, let Darwin handle it. Mean while keep your nose clean. Give the crazies no ammo to use against you personally. Make them lie and or use proxies crimes when they try to make you guilty by association. Out of sight out of mind. Lies work best when they are big but also have a kernel of truth to them. Big lies fall apart when you look at the details. Sure there will be damage but it will be limited. Then you can strike back and inflict a cost. Out of sight out if mind. …
/r/MensRights28/01/22 02:07 PM
1

"Male gaze" is a weapon only meant to be used as a weapon at any time. The easy counter is military bearing and the 1000 yard stare.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 12:07 AM
2

Not as stupid a question as people think it is. Knives are fucking dangerous, you cannot defend yourself except be creating distance, lots of distance, like run away. Escape is you only option in a knife fight, unless you have a gun and are 50+ feet away. If a woman was stabbing me most people will assume I did something to provoke that attack and she was defending herself. They will be coming to her defense not mine. So even if I survive the knife attack, and some how survive the cops or a crow…
/r/MensRights27/01/22 11:48 PM
1

Pretty much this
/r/MensRights27/01/22 11:39 PM
1

Don't shit where you eat. Don't stick you d1ck in crazy. Vet vet vet before having sex. That 3 date minimum rules is there to save your a$$ too.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 11:31 PM
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Constant charges and court proceedings. Feloney charges are of no cost to the the accuser as long as they are credible enough to warrant an investigation. The cost of the defense is on the accused. If law enforcement believes the charges credible but there isn't enough evidence nothing will happen to the accused. Civil trials cost money so harder to use. The cost of Divorse proceedings may be imposed on the higher earner or male depending on local law. Some attorneys work on contingency for a %c…
/r/MensRights26/01/22 01:43 PM
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Nothing. Women out number men. Plus you have men with daughters. Then there are the rich guys with enough money to pay her to go away. Abusive women avoid powerful men. So it is a useful weapon for police to keep the scum in line. So there is no pressure to fund getting rid of the Delueth model
/r/MensRights26/01/22 12:21 PM
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Mental abuse can drive anyone to suicide. Also married men can still be trapped by an ex willing to use the system to destroy you. Some jurisdictions have caught on and reballanced. Many have not.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 12:16 PM
1

OK ,stay away from guys old enough to be your dad. I'm not going to tell you where to find them and how to get with them. I'm doing you a favor. I will tell you this, any guy older than 25 hitting on you is a creep. Any older guy who waits for you to approach him is a clever creep. If you still have a ting for older guys, wait until you are in your late 20's and 30's before going down that road. Live a little. Also stay away from most of the guys on this sub. Most are wannabes. signed An older g…
/r/seduction21/01/22 12:23 AM
1

Context matters
/r/seduction21/01/22 12:05 AM
1

Over thinking
/r/seduction21/01/22 12:04 AM
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Go out, have fun talk to as many people as possible, male nd female. Key is have fun. Rinse repeat. Once a woman sees you having fun, she will start sniffing around.
/r/seduction21/01/22 12:03 AM
1

True, the harder you chase the more tired you get
/r/seduction21/01/22 12:01 AM
1

You dodged a bullet. Girls who play mind games win stupid prizes
/r/seduction20/01/22 11:53 PM
1

Karen's are dangerous.
/r/AntiFeminists11/01/22 12:19 AM
1

Laws tend to be written gender neutral how ever enforcement and case law is not. In an altercation with a female, the male is always assumed to be the aggressor and the greater threat. Especially if the female is a white female from a well connected family. You only option is to escape escape escape. You put hands on her, even yell at her and the cops will get your ass. If you sit there and just take her worst, you will get arrested first until your lawyer sorts it out if he can.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/21 11:39 PM
1

When you are having fun, people notice you more and the start seeking out your attention. They are also more welcoming. You also take the pressure off yourself, you seem less desperate and creepy.
/r/seduction20/11/21 07:55 PM
1

There are other general definitions out there but pushing boundaries when she is not interested will get you labeled a creep every time. It basically boils down to being attractive and socially acceptable versus not being attractive and not socially acceptable to her at that time. If she is not interested, just saying hi or even being with 10 feet or (about 3 meters) will be seen as threatening, creepy and annoying to her. Fortunately, women are as subtle as a punch to the face. When they like a…
/r/seduction18/11/21 03:36 AM
1

I wonder if these feminists have ever tried reject a drunk woman who won't take no for an answer. Its no picnic either and dangerous for other reasons. Anyway the easiest way to deal with the rejection is to not bother women, assume she is not interested. Which will be true 99.99%of the time anyway. Don't cold approach. Don't try to flirt with women. Go about your life and live it for you. It will end all the b's pretty quickly.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 02:11 AM
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Don't flirt with them unless you are feeling it. It's playing with fire. Leading someone on is rude. So you kind do deserve this mess lol. Honestly you are better off manipulating a girl into rejecting you rather you rejecting her with a hard no. It sounds BETA but here me out. I've given straight no's before and each time the woman in question brushed it aside and wouldn't take NO for an answer. Most of the women were very drunk, certainly not sober enough to consent by today's standards. One w…
/r/newTRP21/10/21 09:05 PM
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Don't focus on getting girls. Last thing you need to worry about. The more you worry about getting a girl the creepier you will come across. The harder you chase the creepier you look and the more tired you get. Work on yourself first. Focus on making friends, join clubs, get a job, go to parties etc... When you go out, focus on having fun 1st, second and last. Friend zone every woman you meet. You friend zone until it becomes automatic, conversation is automatic and you start pissing women off …
/r/seduction20/10/21 09:59 PM
2

Red flags, next her
/r/seduction20/10/21 09:35 PM
1

True
/r/seduction20/10/21 09:31 PM
1

Girls are trained to rescue their friends, some will just assume you are harassing her. Other girls get jealous or don't like you for some reason. Even gaming the group won't help. Just text her and ask her out.
/r/seduction20/10/21 09:30 PM
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go out to have fun first, second and third. Don't try to pick up until you are having fun without them. Who cares if you get laid, you are having fun. Girls like to have fun, they will start to sniff around. Girls get horny too. Hooking up is not you trying to convince her to got to bed with you. Its finding the one that finds you attractive. Look for the girl that finds you interesting. Girls will always travel in packs. So look for Indicators of Interest and a girl separating from the pack. As…
/r/seduction20/10/21 09:17 PM
3

OK man, sorry to hear about this. Girls get to define what is creepy and what is hot. The only thing you can do is get a job, do classes on line. Transfer to another school.
/r/seduction20/10/21 08:57 PM
1

Women are strictly choosers only in a population imbalance were men heavily out number women. It flips when women heavily out number the men. When populations are more even, there is a lot more of mutual choosing and approaching going on.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/21 05:10 PM
1

You need therapy.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/21 09:01 PM
1

You were just actually being nice and expecting nothing from it. Kind of like changing a woman's tire then moving on no fuss no muss. Also she could had a thing for you. Getting you to help her was HER pretext for worming her way into your pants.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/21 09:00 PM
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In their fantasies most men would hook up with some pretty young thing. When the rubber meets the road, many of us older guys would actually pass on it. I simply could not get past the: she is a kid, you protect kids, not F*ck them. There are more than a few guys that would act on it, we call them creeps.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/21 08:50 PM
1

How many girls do you think might be nearly as slutty as those girls except more dishonest about it? You would be surprised at how many there are. The only thing keeping them in check is slut shaming by other women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:34 PM
1

First you make your own fun and chill, then women harass you. It won't happen every night but it does happen. What the poster gets right is: you don't go to clubs, festivals, parties to meet women. You go there to have fun first and last. Once you are having fun and not giving a shit, then at some point a woman will make a nuisance of herself. What he misses is: completely ignoring women, he is also missing signs she may be interested. If he has an RBF going, well shit women will avoid you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:28 PM
0

Men don't have to ask either, why initiate a one sided deal. Simple enough. You would be surprised how much women actually "initiate" by trying to get a dude's attention, butting into conversations etc.... If you don't know a woman wants to talk to you before going up to her, you have no shot at even small talk let alone anything else. You are also setting yourself up to get used. If you want an more even playing field, wait to see if women are are sniffing first. If not go about building the ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:16 PM
3

Husband material = wallet and free labor. Make no mistake about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:07 PM
1

Its a handy strategy for getting others to fight their battles.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 11:23 PM
2

Like my problem was being to agreeable to women not being to aggressive Not an uncommon problem. Especially when the consequences for getting it wrong are a lot higher than it used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 10:53 PM
1

Or is that something only a man can do to a woman. Foh. You know the answer to that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 10:41 PM
1

Some Women will start to get slightly more nervous arround you. Make more eye contact, look, look away, look again. Some will give you straight up eye fuck you. They will get more touchy. Laugh at you bad jokes etc.... You can Google the rest. We already know what the base line is for not interested, just being polite or just being friendly. Look for big changes from that baseline. A pro tip some girls are too friendly/flirty and mean nothing it. If she is into you, it will be exclusive she won'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 11:13 AM
1

No. After being married for 14 years, much of it verbally abusive. I can't trust women not to flip the script in me. I can't trust her not to cheat. I can't trust her not to accuse me of abuse some time down the road My libido is dead. My stress and anxiety is up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:09 AM
2

These women can't shame or control the younger woman like the could before, so they attack the older guy. Because of actual cases of abuse the rest of us are guilty by association. My time in the military has colored my vision and I see the world through shit colored glasses. I've seen girl's and women's behavior up front. They know what they are doing. They know they are protected. Playing with younger women is playing with fire, I avoid them. Its a power grab
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:00 AM
1

True
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 09:28 PM
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And if she doesn't find you attractive, you are creepy no matter what you do. Unlike 20-25 years ago, you are not anonymous and that definition of creepy goes far beyond the obvious behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 09:26 PM
0

That worked in the old days. With social media we are all no longer anonymous enough to do that. After MeToo, NO means NO, a YES doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 09:20 PM
2

best comment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 09:11 PM
1

How about advising guys to do a cold read before approaching or at least sticking to simple small talk. Odds are you can tell if she is not interested before the conversation even starts. It's baseline behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 08:00 PM
2

Those smart women are avoiding a confrontation by not getting nasty. It's about her safety not his discomfort. That's why there is a heavy push by some very vocal women telling guys not to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:56 PM
1

For random conversation use, small talk and chill. Don't ask her out or try to get her number. Friend zone them instead. Get comfortable just talking and living your life. When women are just being friendly/polite or don't want to be bothered we have that baseline. It's behavior you see every day. Look for deviations from baseline, like extreme anger, if she is attracted to you that will show in her behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:49 PM
1

Friendzone every girl you meet in the beginning (this should be number #1 but you need insta anyways). This will allow you to build preselection and , over time, reduce to ZERO the number of approaches you need to have girls in your life. WORD. OP Those female bro zoned friends will hook you up and hopefully weed out the nut cases for you. Girls love to play match maker. Friend zoning will also make you less needy which = appearing less creepy and you present higher status. Women will start snif…
/r/seduction03/09/21 06:22 PM
1

Use small talk to pass the time and screen her too. Ask her where she goes to school. If she is in high school she will mention that. If she mentions a university or she works you can ask her about that to make sure it jives. She will not be able to talk about her job or university life very well if she is trying to lie about her age. Somethings will not add up.
/r/seduction03/09/21 06:12 PM
1

Ask her out again
/r/seduction03/09/21 06:02 PM
1

Just going up to random women on the street, in a bar etc... is a gigantic waste of time You try to make eye contact first. If she avoids your eye contact, don't waste your time You check her body language before you talk to her. If she is closed off, nose in a book, her friends have circled the wagons don't waste your time. A woman who is really interested will try to get your attention somehow. She will make eye contact with you. if she is really interested, she will do a look, look away, look…
/r/seduction01/09/21 03:46 PM
1

She is trying to hook up with you
/r/seduction27/08/21 07:11 PM
1

Cool peace move on
/r/seduction27/08/21 07:10 PM
1

It happens, which is why you screen first.
/r/seduction27/08/21 07:04 PM
1

Screen out trash women. That will save you a bunch of head aches.
/r/seduction27/08/21 07:04 PM
1

While true, good luck on getting enforcement unless you are a teen aged boy. In reality men need those same safety tips women used just as much. Many a dumb a$$ has been robbed by criminals using women as bait/decoys if nothing else. .
/r/MensRights25/08/21 02:06 PM
1

This double standard does suck. Then you had better back out or have your wingman cock block you her. I know the hammer will fall on the guy, hard in that situation. Black out or stumbling drunk is no longer the standard for too drunk to consent at least as far as women are concerned. 1-2 drinks in a night and she is off limits as a rule of thumb. I wouldn't convict a guy for something that low, but I'd sure as hell pass on having sex with her. For a guy is black drunk and she is just had a few …
/r/MensRights24/08/21 10:22 PM
1

I can live with this double standard for the most part, you at least know if she is DTF. No mistaking enthusiastic consent. You just have to make sure she is sober. lol. The hard part it extricating yourself when you are not interested. Nothing can turn an awkward situat6ion into a dangerous situation like cop, bouncer or group of bystanders. The girls weren't scary, the idiots around me had me concerned.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 09:39 PM
1

We all do that. Americans are notoriously US centered.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 09:22 PM
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Cute. Those don't exist in most US schools except to protect teachers not students in the form of the EEOC. The only thing that will protect a male child is having parents who have deep enough pockets and well connected enough to hire very good lawyers. Universities have Title IX, good luck getting a fair hearing there if you are a guy.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 04:30 PM
1

Keep my cool and back away, leave the area. Say nothing to the police, they won't believe me and might even arrest me. Then I would see if there was video of the incident just incase she flips the script later and accuses me. Things to consider from experience: As a male, you will always be seen as the aggressor. Expect no help No one will consider her actions creepy let alone a crime. You will need to: Keep your cool Let it slide and back away. Say nothing to her do not get into a confrontation…
/r/MensRights24/08/21 03:39 PM
2

Even if the cops believed you, they know they would never get a conviction without video.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 03:14 PM
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More like change your route so you don't get accused of being a rapist.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 02:48 PM
3

The legal system is about control and society is very much a zero sum game. What will happen is, boys will be warned not to do these abusive behaviors. Girls will get told those are red flags and give tools and resources on how to protect themselves. Boys will not be told how to protect themselves from abusive girls.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 02:37 PM
1

Yup men need to document and log behavior pretty diligently. Preferable with video and audio. Legally, a well maintained daily journal will do but those are easier to dismiss. Even then, that evidence is likely to get declared inadmissible.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 01:32 PM
1

Allegations should be investigated. No evidence, close the case. Men need to be careful and watch their behavior. Anything can be deemed as coercion.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 01:15 PM
1

She is playing you and using you. Women get horny too, she is not attracted to you. Caveat, she is asexual or was abused. Now she needs to disclose that so you have the choice to move on.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 01:10 PM
1

Move on. ​ Build a better life for yourself.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 01:09 PM
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i do expect this law to be twisted in favour of one party and then there will be the excuses of how it doesn't apply to women.. That is how it will work out. Unless you have hard proof, no way a guy will be protected the same way a woman will.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 01:07 PM
2

I've been harassed by women who didn't take no for an answer at 4 times. I haven't done the same. They were drunk, handsy, manipulative and a couple even got belligerent. If I had behaved that way I would have been arrested at the least.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 01:02 PM
3

Sample sizes need to about 1500 or so and random to be considered statistically correct.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 12:57 PM
2

Power and control. Simple
/r/MensRights24/08/21 12:55 PM
2

do consider engaging with your human rights commission. Dude you made spit up my coffee..... What human rights commission in school
/r/MensRights24/08/21 12:52 PM
1

Nope, if her body language made it seem she was not interested in a kiss. Making a stronger move puts you in with the creeps. See if you get a second date.
/r/seduction19/08/21 09:53 PM
1

Or he is a smart creep.
/r/seduction19/08/21 09:49 PM
1

He is old enough to be your father and he knows this is wrong. He could easily have "kids" your age. You might want to pass on this guy for your own safety. You don't know much about him. He could be married. He could be a very sophisticated creep who has learned to let you come to him. Lots of unknowns.
/r/seduction19/08/21 09:48 PM
1

On the money
/r/seduction19/08/21 09:39 PM
2

If he actually behaved that way, the guy was certainly a creep. This is not how you approach anyone male or female. How ever there are two sides to every story in a sexual encounter: hers, his and the truth. She could be telling the truth as is, a strong possibility since reported it to the police because there was a second victim. Now the DC area is uptight as f*ck. Behaviors accepted else where in the US would be "unacceptable behavior" in DC, especially when dealing with young white women fro…
/r/seduction19/08/21 09:33 PM
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You don't scan a room like you are looking for a suicide bomber. Scanning the room is useful for getting the general vibe so you can match what's going on. You can also pickup who is closed off. When you go out you have fun first, then women will start sending IOIs. You can pickup up on those IOIs without even trying. If NO IOIs are sent, who cares, you are having fun anyway. Another way to take the edge off is to limit your objective. Engage in random Small Talk only, 3-5 minutes before moving …
/r/seduction18/08/21 03:41 PM
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Once I figured this out, evening became a lot more fun because I would focus on having fun. If a woman was interested it was obvious. You can't miss it no matter what the feminists say. Women can get away with being way creepier than men and when they are interested in a guy, the creep comes out. No more guess work, no buying drinks only to have her walk away. No need for low probability cold approaches because she was trying to get my attention in the first place.
/r/seduction17/08/21 10:07 PM
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Simple, she will let you know. People with SO let that out early in a conversation to set the ground rules, especially women. Every women I know has used "I have a boyfriend/husband " whether they have one or not excuse.
/r/seduction17/08/21 09:47 PM
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Go out and have fun. Don't drunk on the boat with the family though. See how she behaves towards you. You will be sized up pretty quick by mom and dad in any event. You will get a good idea where you stand.
/r/seduction17/08/21 09:04 PM
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Don't go to a club with that intention. You will fail. Go to a club or bar to have fun. You must be having fun first before trying to hook up with anyone. If you are having fun, women will start to notice and they will start trying to get your attention. If you don't meet anyone that night, who cares you had fun anyway.
/r/seduction17/08/21 09:00 PM
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Compete bullshit. You should get a good looking friend and hit the bars with him lol. Truth. A girls is either into you or she is not, game for how not to fuck up her attraction to you.
/r/seduction17/08/21 08:54 PM
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It was likely the weirdo was a drunk obsessive prick suffering delusions, its is also likely this guy may have been her boyfriend and she was flirting right in front of her. Whether she was or wasn't is irrelevant to the OP. The OP needed to look to his safety first and bug out. The OP did dodge a bullet. Either way this girl attracts unhealthy attention.
/r/seduction09/08/21 09:29 PM
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If he was alone and unarmed he would have been humble pie, even drunk and jealous he would not have messed with you. Jerks like these only act up when they think they have lots of backup, have a weapon or untouchable in some way (aka they think they are connected) The moment he confronted you and you lost your self control, you lost any chance with that girl as well. You also opened yourself up for injury or death on the spot or retaliation and arrest in the aftermath. My recommendation would be…
/r/seduction09/08/21 09:24 PM
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Girlfriend, wife or stranger, better to piss her off than to rape her. She can flip that script on you real quick later. Then there is the law. The law doesn't care what the relationship is or how much she begged for it, neither will the DA, judge or jury. I've called gay, berated etc... multiple times, what you can't call me is rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:05 PM
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He nailed it.
/r/seduction03/08/21 04:40 PM
1

Bingo.
/r/seduction03/08/21 04:32 PM
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When a girl plays hard to get, you match her vibe. Playing hard to get =She is not interested move on. Or if she is just playing, by moving on you have dodged a bullet. Either way the move is the same.
/r/seduction03/08/21 02:04 AM
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She likes you but is hiding her true self by agreeing with everything you say. Its Red flag, when cracks in the facade appear watch out.
/r/seduction03/08/21 02:00 AM
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You need to ask that question to determine availability. And it signals someone is interested, you or you are asking for a friend.
/r/seduction03/08/21 01:50 AM
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You are a female, he is a greater danger too you. You are not a danger to him. Getting in close and a sly touch or bump won't threaten him 9 times out 10. He will be over the moon, not freaked out. Start with small talk, then hit him with a compliment or two. Some light teasing or innuendo when you are feeling more daring.
/r/seduction03/08/21 01:42 AM
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Telling a guy she is not into him, move on and go improve your life is a lot better than giving him false hope. That way, he can move on quickly.
/r/seduction03/08/21 01:36 AM
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Because cold approaches are creepy. Unless we have read her right, we are actually bothering her by approaching.
/r/seduction03/08/21 01:24 AM
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You can pretty much say or do anything if you are making a move on a guy, even bump into him. 8 times out 10 he'll talk to you. Once hello is out of the way, ask him questions about himself. Most of the time all you have to do is make some eye contact and smile. Let them come to you. Also tell your friends what you are up to so they can clear out for a moment. Most guys don't approach groups.
/r/seduction03/08/21 01:22 AM
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Two basic categories of eye contact avoidance. She is not interested at all, she will avoid any contact with you and can even be hostile to you. Or she is interested but shy. This is where you will see "the look at you and look away, then she'll look back" behavior. What you are describing is she wants to end the conversation and she is giving you the hint to move on. Something you are doing or saying is triggering that response.
/r/seduction30/07/21 08:51 PM
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Two basic categories of eye contact avoidance. She is not interested at all, she will avoid any contact with you and can even be hostile to you. Or she is interested but shy. This is where you will see "the look at you and look away, then she'll look back" behavior. What you are describing is she wants to end the conversation and she is giving you the hint to move on. Something you are doing or saying is triggering that response.
/r/seduction30/07/21 08:51 PM
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Not entirely sure if this problem stems from a lack of self-confidence. I was an ugly duckling growing up, so sometimes it gets in my head that girls are hitting on me as part of some cruel joke. Here is your flaw. You don't believe a girl can be interested in you so you ignore or don't recognize their advances. It is that simple. The hard part is fixing the mindset. Unless you are dealing with spooks and criminals, women never make advances on a guy they don't like and don't want to f*ck. Some …
/r/seduction30/07/21 08:40 PM
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Not entirely sure if this problem stems from a lack of self-confidence. I was an ugly duckling growing up, so sometimes it gets in my head that girls are hitting on me as part of some cruel joke. Here is your flaw. You don't believe a girl can be interested in you so you ignore or don't recognize their advances. It is that simple. The hard part is fixing the mindset. Unless you are dealing with spooks and criminals, women never make advances on a guy they don't like and don't want to f*ck. Some …
/r/seduction30/07/21 08:39 PM
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Find a new job pronto. Never sh!t where you eat
/r/seduction30/07/21 07:47 PM
2

White women are master gaslighters and masters of getting other to do their dirty work.
/r/MGTOW28/07/21 05:54 PM
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We don't seek help because very few people actually help and many take advantage of our mental health issues for their own gain.
/r/MGTOW28/07/21 05:53 PM
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Reading the room will improve your success rate and you stop wasting your time. Also if no woman is showing interest, go hang with the boys and make your own fun. Why ruin your day, evening or event. If stick to small talk to gage interest levels. Takes pressure off her and you. It gives you an easy out as well.
/r/seduction28/07/21 05:42 PM
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You would be surprised how much non-verbal signaling goes on, how much women are approaching guys they are interested in. How aggressive and "persistent" some women can be can shock and creep you out. How one of my ex-GF's picked me up in bar by demonstrating her oral skills on my neck on the dance floor. Most women won't be so heavy handed. Do you think the real players are randomly walking up to women out there and having success with most of them? No these guys are scanning the area and seein…
/r/seduction27/07/21 10:34 PM
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Don't try to pick up, quick chit chat and roll. Gyms are for working out and destressing, not picking up chicks. If people do an honest port-mortum on hooking up at the gym, there is a very good chance the hookup happened because it was her idea in the first place not his. He just thinks he was "the man", odds are she initiated the first contact.
/r/seduction27/07/21 09:52 PM
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Don't shit where you eat is sound advice. It's only a matter of time before you get burned sunshine.
/r/seduction27/07/21 09:44 PM
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Funny I hear women complain about it being chatted up at the mall or at a grocery store all the time as well. I found women just as on the defensive there as at the gym.
/r/seduction27/07/21 09:41 PM
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Agreed, I was way more likely to BS with the guys at the gym than talk to any women.
/r/seduction27/07/21 09:34 PM
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I was about to write my screed when I saw your post. Well said.
/r/seduction27/07/21 09:32 PM
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I agree with the OP. Every guy should asking screening questions. To all you guys saying it won't work, what's the the point of being with a woman you are not compatible with or who will only use you as beta bux because she can. Let some other fool fall on that sword. Slowing things down and screening also has other multiple positives: Not the least of which, you will have a better chance of screening out the crazies. She will be more at ease if you are not all over eager. It eliminates the to g…
/r/seduction27/07/21 09:09 PM
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Who cares. Every guy should asking screening questions. What's the the point of being with a woman you are not compatible with or who will only use you as beta bux. Let some other fool fall on that sword. Slowing things down and screening also has other multiple positives Not the least of which, you will have a better chance of screening out the crazies. She will be more at ease if you are not all over eager. It eliminates to get the girl only the guy must win her over mind set. She has to win y…
/r/seduction27/07/21 09:00 PM
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That would be funny as f#ck
/r/MGTOW27/07/21 02:10 PM
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Fox tried something similar with some bachelorette show. They did a season of nice guys then brought in the F#ckboys half way through the season. The result was so obvious and predictable they never tried it again.
/r/MGTOW27/07/21 02:08 PM
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Yes, it's pretty obvious. They start asking lots of questions
/r/seduction26/07/21 02:24 PM
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When initially meeting some one, small talk is your litmus test. If the pass that, then deep dive.
/r/seduction26/07/21 12:48 PM
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Small talk is how you get into and out of deeper conversations. As I said small talk is a recon in force to figure out if she worth getting into a deep dive conversation with.
/r/seduction26/07/21 08:58 AM
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Then don't do humor. Do what you are good at
/r/seduction26/07/21 08:51 AM
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Guys you all need to stop worrying about this shit. You have some chicks sniffing arround now. So you know what" hints "to look for. You are not attracted to them. Perfectly fine. Work on building a good life for yourself for you. Have fun, travel, get some skills, get some hobbies, make friends. Do it for YOU, not to impress others, certainly not impress some chick. Honestly women, even the hot ones will start sniffing arround once you have built your life up. Be careful what you wish for, she'…
/r/seduction26/07/21 08:48 AM
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Don't worry about that. Make your life good and interesting for you instead. At some point some women will come sniffing arround and blow that good life you have built all to hell in handbasket. Be careful of what you wish for. This is your warning, I'm serious. Women do pursue and pursue much harder than guys realize. You just need to know what to look for. If a girl is just sitting back, ignore her, you don't need her b.s. go back to having fun with your friends.
/r/seduction26/07/21 08:13 AM
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Laugh all you want. Your actions on video can be interpreted in a lot of different ways. The only near sure thing with video is:she claims you had sex on x date and you have video that you were no where near her at that time. Now go lookup trauma informed investigations. Basically its a license for a crying Karen to lie. If she said you had raped her last Saturday and you had evidence you were white water rafting 100 miles away that weekend. She can claim the trauma made her confuse the dates an…
/r/seduction26/07/21 07:49 AM
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You don't until you learn how to do it. Small talk is useful for gaging interest and screening her out. Think of it as a recon in force. If she doesn't want to talk then you know she is not interested. If she does want to talk and if she uses certain language, expressions, makes certain comments then you can say "well I have to get going, pleasure talking to you" and you hope you never see that b1tch again. That way you avoid sticking your d1ck in crazy. Small talk is a far more important skill …
/r/seduction26/07/21 07:38 AM
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Depends on what is on video, 1 party vs 2 party jurisdictions, how good the DA and your lawyers are, who is on that jury and the judge. Are you willing to roll the dice?
/r/seduction26/07/21 07:23 AM
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Until they argue the evidence was illegaly obtained. Also for for video evidence to work she has to be the agressor or at least obviously f#cking back, getting off etc... If she is passive aka starfish/duty sex that is now evidence against you.
/r/seduction26/07/21 07:08 AM
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The level of OPCEC is considered coercion or obtaining sex under false pretenses. Illegal in many jurisdictions. Mostly enforced against men of course.
/r/seduction26/07/21 07:00 AM
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Just flat out ask, she is at a dance club give her a song or two, don't get handsy, say thank you and have a good night, then move on. If she wants more, ball is her court. She'll come looking for you. Continue to bounce all over the dance floor. Make your own fun. Down side, I had some girl use me as a meat shield most of a night
/r/seduction25/07/21 05:09 PM
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By chasing "reading between the lines" things have gotten so ambiguous that a polite good morning could be taken as attempted unwanted pass. While at the same time a woman naked in your bed doesn't mean anything even a wife or GF. Clear signals, rules and words that everyone has agreed upon is required. Even in the coy back and forth of early dating. If you want to chase women into a mine field be my guest.
/r/seduction25/07/21 04:00 PM
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There are no soft NO's. Only no's anything but hard yes is a no. Some Karen can flip that script on you real quick, even a hard yes can be flipped.. My trust factor is zero now.
/r/seduction25/07/21 03:40 PM
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Dont assume anything except No means no. Consider it a bullet dodged.
/r/seduction24/07/21 09:46 PM
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The end game is making a happy life for you. As for women, if they are interested they will be stupid obvious. Sometimes women will even creep out your lizard brain they are so obvious, even high class Karens. We all have googled when women are interested, yes the behave like that. When the do it to you It will be with force of a sledgehammer.
/r/seduction23/07/21 11:18 PM
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That's your lizard brain talking. How smart a lizzards?
/r/seduction23/07/21 10:51 PM
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Good luck
/r/seduction23/07/21 10:28 PM
1

Business mode is exactly that, this is just business. polite civility is all that is required. No more no less. Only say the minimum required to complete the transaction.
/r/seduction23/07/21 10:23 PM
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Bad advice in the era of #metoo. Chasing a girl who is aloof or appears to be not really interested is creepy. Any guy with job or business worth having and an ounce of self respect will walk away at a whiff of games like this. It's a waste of time and potentially career ending. People who play manipulation games early will play manipulation games later in the relationship , its a massive red flag. They will flip the script on you eventually. So playing hard to get = not interested => her gettin…
/r/seduction23/07/21 10:19 PM
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Guidelines for women are simpler. You are not a threat to his safety without a weapon or a bunch of goons at your beck and call to do him harm. Generally most guys will not be as defensive around women as women are around men. You are not going to creep him out unless you threaten his dog or his kid. Exceptions are victims of abusive relationships. Given that guys will be less defensive you will have more freedom to do what you want. You can bump into him, ask for help, use the old "you look fam…
/r/seduction23/07/21 10:00 PM
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Don't shit where you eat.
/r/seduction23/07/21 09:15 PM
1

Instead of trying to talk to girls on the beach, try to have good time at the beach instead. If conversation happens, stick to small talk and chill. If a girl is interested, she will try to get your attention some how. She will find a way to keep the small talk going.
/r/seduction23/07/21 09:12 PM
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Women are either interested or not, you can only make them not interested. Think of small talk and flirting as screening and qualifying questions in sales except you are both trying to screen and sell to each other. You are trying to see if there is a spark, an attraction, a commonality. That is why having friends, hobbies, doing self improvement is very important. To have something to talk about and have in common. Once that base level rapport happens then you can move on to flirting. If a disi…
/r/seduction23/07/21 09:06 PM
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Then leave her alone. If a girl is interested they will keep you talking
/r/seduction23/07/21 03:21 PM
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We've been sold a lie. Women love sex, they just may not like it with beta boys. Women hide they like sex for control and protection. Most men have never been really chased by women. So any woman that really pays them attention can hook him easily. All she has to do is tone down the sexy/party bits and play the good girl.
/r/MGTOW23/07/21 02:24 PM
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Women are competition, treat them as such
/r/MGTOW23/07/21 02:05 PM
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True. I live in a neighborhood of such Karens. There is more than enough money to protect their daughters form consequences. They can protect their sons too but it is a bit harder and it costs much more. Boys get no sympathy regardless of class.
/r/MGTOW23/07/21 02:00 PM
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Exactly.
/r/MGTOW23/07/21 12:48 PM
1

Friend zone her and move on.
/r/seduction23/07/21 04:34 AM
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If a woman does that, I'm moving on and she can go home to her cats.
/r/seduction23/07/21 04:24 AM
3

Yup. I've seen many a smart guy do stupid shit drunk and in a group.
/r/seduction23/07/21 04:23 AM
1

Pretty much. Its their or your job to be polite at work. Friendly basic politeness is all that is required.
/r/seduction23/07/21 03:50 AM
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Eliminate the basics. Things that can creep people out. Hygiene Style of cloths. Don't stare Don't stand too close Check some personal habits Not making eye contact when talking to someone Getting to deep too fast when meeting someone. Small talk may drive some people nuts but it is useful when meeting someone and you don't want to creep them out. Have you been diagnosed with Autism, ADHD or Asperger's, other conditions in the past? These often come with big weaknesses in social interactions and…
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:35 PM
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You treat it by letting it go in one ear and out the other. If a girl is flirty with everyone means you are in the friend zone. Just be friendly back, yank her chain a bit, ask her to wing man, ask her to introduce you to other girls etc.... Flirting with everyone is that particular girl's base line. Look for a changes in behavior. Big changes means something is up. When she stops flirting with you, she likes a guy and it ain't you or anyone else that was in that group. Or she is pissed at you f…
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:19 PM
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Guys shouldn't hit on girls at work as general rule. Not hitting on a woman would in no way be considered rude by anyone. Hitting on her would have been considered rude because she was at work. If she got huffy because you didn't hit on her then you have dodged a bullet. Just focus on polite pleasantries and small talk if she is talkative to be polite. Ignoring polite small talk would be considered rude.
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:05 PM
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Without observe her behaviors directly. Shrug it off, avoid her stay away from her section or nights she works. She called you weird, that is not a good sign. Make friends with the male staff, be polite to the other female staff. Find another place to hang out.
/r/seduction22/07/21 03:04 PM
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When you have been burned by a Karen sniveling about being "uncomfortable" or she didn't like your topic of conversation, you will understand. All she has to do is overhear it, cry to the right people and you are done. I have that T-Shirt. 20-30 years ago you could have gotten away with that sh1t. You were anonymous, no social media. Today with social media, its much easier to burn someone. We are living small town will 3billion people in it. Walls have ears, females are fascists/communists best…
/r/seduction22/07/21 11:19 AM
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She could be shy. Shy women exhibit much the same behavior as disinterested women. Only way to tell it so test it. Even shy girls get stalker like, they will find out all about you, they will try to be near be near you constantly hoping to get your attention. If she is interested she will continue to hang around you hoping you will talk to her. Next time you catch her hanging around or looking at you looking giver her a nod or a "formal" greeting, good morning, good evening if the situation allo…
/r/seduction21/07/21 09:44 PM
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Got to admit making a woman beg for d1ck is fun. I can't deny that. When women want to f@ck, they aren't subtle, there is no guess work. They practically assault you. Naked in a bed is not subtle, neither is a girl kissing and licking you neck, ear lobes etc... on the dance floor (that was a good night). Assuming a guy is attracted to her, if guy hesitates: It's because he is inexperienced and what is happening is simply not registering with him, he doesn't believe it. Or He does not trust her. …
/r/seduction21/07/21 09:03 PM
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We have our next #metoo perp. Women like you or they don't. At some point they don't like you any more and that "Karen"is coming for your blood, fangs out. Under today's rules, that script can get flipped right quick. What you thought was consent all of a sudden stops being consent. She felt uncomfortable, preasured or fearful, had too much too drink. In a he said she said, you lose even if you avoid jail. 20+years ago a woman naked in your bed ment make a move. Today, it doesn't mean sh1t excep…
/r/seduction21/07/21 01:39 AM
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Simple solution, she gets the bed, I go home or I get the couch. Done. No more mixed messages. Beds are for f*cking or sleeping when you are done f*cking. Also don't invite women over alone you are just friends with. If you do invite her over, its is always a group event or your intent is very clear. Also don't go to her place alone if you are just friends or not really intending on having sex. Same rules applies for women more for safety reasons. It will force everyone to be a bit more above bo…
/r/seduction20/07/21 10:11 PM
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A guys does this for three possible reasons He is bone tired and sleepy when you tried to cuddle. If anyone wakes me up in the middle of the night will get the 1000 yard death stare. He is not interested, you are just a friend. Going over alone to a friends house, certainly spending the night, sends the wrong signals. He needs to stop. He is interested but he doesn't know you are interested or are at least willing. Making an unwanted move on friend is good way to lose a friend or become persona …
/r/seduction20/07/21 08:27 PM
1

Going up to someone you don't know trying to talk to them. Some will folks will split hairs. Some will consider a girl making eye contact, smiling etc... as a sign of at least come over and talk to be a warm approach. And a purely cold approach to be when she has not sent any signs of interest.
/r/seduction20/07/21 06:37 PM
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You are not entitled to a woman by the same token they are not entitled to you either. You go on a self improvement kick not to get women but for YOU and to make life good for YOU without women in it. You do what you enjoy and make friends. Make life good for you. Stop letting women define your life. If women are not interested, great you don't care, your life is good with out them. If women start sniffing around, meh, many are just going to wreck that happy life you built anyway.
/r/seduction20/07/21 06:30 PM
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You say hi or nod and keep your distance, handle your business, move on politely. You may use a more formal good morning, good evening. You are simply acknowledging her presence while announcing yours. She may open up later. Honestly, the best way to hook up in a gym is to be introduced by a third party. Other than that, you have to wait and see if she is checking you out, hovering around you etc... You will have to test it, vary your routine move to another part of the gym she if she follows yo…
/r/seduction20/07/21 01:10 PM
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Let it go, honestly she was trying to get information from you, you provided it. Done. If she was interested she'll start sniffing arround.
/r/seduction19/07/21 09:37 PM
1

Work place, gyms, on the street.
/r/seduction19/07/21 09:31 PM
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Don't try to dance with them, just do your thing on the floor. MAKE YOUR OWN FUN. Have fun. Girls will start coming to you. If a girl bumps into you, apologize and move a little bit away from her. See if she moves closer, tries to make eye contact or bumps into you again. If she is interested, she will bump into you again or do something to get your attention.
/r/seduction19/07/21 09:25 PM
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That was as close to a direct pickup line that women will use. She will get you talking then decide form there if she wants to smash or not. If she decides yes she wants to smash, she knows she will get your number in about 5 minutes. Most women will hover around you trying to get your attention, make eye contact, bump into you, touch you, crack a joke, make an overtly sexual comment etc... Once I figured that out, I stopped cold approaching entirely as a complete waste of time. Eye contact and …
/r/seduction19/07/21 09:19 PM
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For anything other that friendly chit chat, your chances are near zero of not being creepy. Women at the gym have their defenses up on max. Saying hello can be seen as creepy at the gym. Only talk to women who seem open to talking and then put dating them on a on very slow burn. Stick to small talk or gym talk keep it short 2-5 minutes max unless she extends it . If she is interested she will start sniffing around you.
/r/seduction19/07/21 08:52 PM
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My guess is the next step in their agenda is going to be a automatic promotions for the fems and severely limited promotions for men... That will lead to men revolting for real this time. Some men will get violent, others will retreat in their own little worlds. Other still will take the gloves off. Nearly all men will treat women with wariness and caution we reserve for other guys we don't know and trust. What these women failed to realize equality means we are are all equally worthless and mus…
/r/MGTOW16/07/21 02:02 PM
1

Maybe = no, move on.
/r/seduction13/07/21 08:47 PM
1

Can women be charged too, lmao, who am I kidding. Gents walk away.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 12:03 PM
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Just don't try to pick her up, just pay attention to the group and have fun. One or more will start showing some interest. If she/they aren't interested you will get frozen out quickly, move on and keep having fun. Here is another thing to look for, if a girl is interested she will peal off from her friends. If she is making heavy eye contact with you, she has already let her friends know to let you in. Girls that are less subtle or more daring will engineer a reason to talk to you. If they look…
/r/seduction08/07/21 04:44 PM
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True. If they are interested they will come sniffing around.
/r/seduction08/07/21 04:14 PM
1

True, hell you need to filter and vet her too. Why ask for contact info from someone you don't like or vibe after 3 mins of small talk. To for shooting the breaze first, then if things get interesting ask for her number. Otherwise "nice talking to you".
/r/seduction27/06/21 05:37 PM
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The Gestapo used female informants to great effect.
/r/MGTOW23/06/21 11:47 PM
10

Prime example of don't shit where you eat, a lock your pc when ever you leave your desk. Security 101.
/r/MGTOW23/06/21 11:44 PM
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Step dad = ATM machine and free labor. Nothing more.
/r/MGTOW22/06/21 11:14 PM
1

Warm approaches are best Start with greeting people as you walk by, just a hello, a nod, a wave and move on. Just a friendly acknowledgement. Start with small talk and do not try to pick her up, quick chit chat and move on. Like you would while standing in line at the store. Learn to read body language, you will see right away if she is interested in talking at all. If woman is interested in you, she will try to get your attention. At that point she is asking you to pick her up. You can't miss i…
/r/seduction16/06/21 09:06 PM
1

Be on your purpose for your own reasons, not to impress others.
/r/seduction16/06/21 08:55 PM
1

You can't flirt like a woman flirts. Instead you have to act oblivious to her blatant attempts. Can confirm, give her a little playful resistance and she'll nuke it just for fun.
/r/seduction16/06/21 03:31 PM
1

No don't bother if you don't enjoy them.
/r/seduction10/06/21 09:45 PM
2

Better him than me
/r/MGTOW10/06/21 01:09 AM
2

Go over and chill, just watch the movie and relax. See how she behaves towards you. If she is interested she will make subtle and sometimes not so subtle moves. Point blank ask, are we just friends? You want to clarify that she is not interested before misunderstandings happen. It will let her know you may be interested but you don't want to be that guy the "Nice Guy" TM who goes around harassing his friends.
/r/seduction09/06/21 09:54 PM
2

Go with the more interested one.
/r/seduction09/06/21 09:34 PM
1

She said something like “you don’t want to be with me”. There is your answer. She comes with drama you don't need at least for a relationship. Treat her flirting comments as all talk. All show and no go.
/r/seduction09/06/21 07:12 PM
2

Ah more information, this girl is a player with lots of guys floating around. She may not be looking for a relationship. No her friends may not be trying to throw you off. She likely wants to bang your friend. She maybe wanted to bang you too that night. Her comments were pretty sexual without coming out and saying "hey baby lets f*ck". Women don't make comments like that around men they are not interested in. Its too risky socially and potentially physically dangerous for her. I used ignore com…
/r/seduction09/06/21 01:19 PM
1

Different kind of teasing. Teasing has double meanings. You have the meaning you describe and then there is the light banter/light playful hazing. A woman making comments like that is interested in someone at the table. Those far too risky to make and only mean it as a joke. Some guy would take those the wrong way and she could end up in over her head real quick.
/r/seduction09/06/21 12:14 AM
3

The moment you cold approached her and move beyond hello, good morning or small talk uninvited. Body language will tell you if you were invited.
/r/seduction08/06/21 10:35 PM
22

Ladies , you can get away with a lot but even "hey baby wanna f*ck" will likely be seen as a cringe worthy joke. Get him talking to you and invite him over under a flimsy pretext, you need help with X or what his opinion on Y. If you can cook or bake, well... you get the idea. Then move on from there. Just don't get too drunk when you make your move, I've turned women away for that.
/r/seduction08/06/21 10:32 PM
2

Teasing. If you were friendzoned she would be talking about a boyfriend or complaining about her ex.
/r/seduction08/06/21 10:19 PM
8

Instead of trying to get with her. As you are walking by one of these chicks just simply smile say hi, good morning what ever and keep going about about your routine. If she wants to talk, then talk. Get comfortable with small talk. Stick to safe easy subjects and keep it short. If she is interested in more she will find excuses to extend the conversation or she will come looking for you. Try to ask questions that are on topic and listen more. Use this phase to screen out the nut jobs or people …
/r/seduction08/06/21 10:15 PM
3

Yup. Besides you can attack hate, that's easy. Attacking indifference makes someone look like a psycho.
/r/MGTOW07/06/21 07:27 PM
1

Just ignore their bluster. It drives them nuts
/r/MGTOW07/06/21 01:51 PM
8

Agree. Women don't fear hate, they fear indifference.
/r/MGTOW07/06/21 01:45 PM
0

If you go to a night club it is for the music and make your own fun. Going to a night club to meat women you will get the same results as OLD.
/r/MGTOW07/06/21 01:42 PM
2

You need to seek therapy to stop doing this. From personal experience, fights are chaos. They are never fair, there are often big differences in size, and skill of the people fighting. Often times you are fights more than one person and weapons come into play. If you survive the fight, you are left with bunch medical and legal bills. The cops will arrest and the DA will charge both parties to protect society from two out of control apes. Your boyfriend will lose his high powered career. To add i…
/r/RedPillWomen04/06/21 09:46 PM
1

He likely has trust and resentment issues towards you. I was in a verbally abusive marriage to years where I felt like an ATM machine and a work horse. It killed my sex drive. Years after the abuse stopped I still cannot bring my self to have sex with any woman. My trust is gone.
/r/RedPillWomen04/06/21 09:10 PM
1

If you want to avoid false accusations: Go Monk and keep your distance. Any contact can be redefined as sexual assault at any time. It is literally the simplest solution. Don't do stupid shit and make stupid sexual comments ​ If you can't go monk, Don't bang crazy. Don't bang drunk/high women or women who have been exposed to alcohol vapers for that matter. Don't bang married women. They will lie to cover up infidelity Realize you can be charged at any time, consent can be revoked retroactively.…
/r/MGTOW02/06/21 07:27 PM
2

When sex in not in a relationship with a woman, it is over and she is getting it else where.
/r/MGTOW02/06/21 06:59 PM
1

Its how women flip the script on you.
/r/MGTOW02/06/21 05:00 PM
1

Polyandry is tolerable in egalitarian hunter gatherer societies. In agricultural, industrial, post-industrial societies, polyandry is just a legalized upfront game of alpha fux, beta bux. It will lead to insane levels of instability.
/r/MGTOW02/06/21 04:47 PM
1

No men don't want to raise or pay for someone else's offspring, especially if he is not getting sex in the deal.
/r/MGTOW02/06/21 04:40 PM
1

Even if you know how to defend yourself, it still comes with some pretty high risks. Women have found it better to outsource that risk to men.
/r/MGTOW01/06/21 05:08 PM
1

Yes it is.
/r/MGTOW24/05/21 11:38 PM
1

You are not. The definition has been stretched to the point where a simple look is all it takes to make an accusation on social media.
/r/MGTOW24/05/21 10:11 PM
1

No one will believe it unless it was a comedy.
/r/MGTOW24/05/21 10:01 PM
3

It is your best defense but even monk is not full proof
/r/MGTOW24/05/21 09:58 PM
2

Its called flipping the script
/r/MGTOW24/05/21 09:45 PM
2

Play stupid games get stupid prizes. We all know this works. Don't rape and don't have sex with drunk/high women. 1 drink = she is too drunk to consent. Why, the ridiculous patronizing standard. Because we all know some Karen will flip the script on you claiming she was incapacitated with 1 -2 glasses of wine. We also don't know if she 1, 2 or 5 or whole damned bottle. We also don't know what medication she was on or claimed to be on. Keeping my dick in my pants is probably the smart move.
/r/MGTOW24/05/21 09:35 PM
1

God know, they will pull it out and start shooting anyone and claim self defense
/r/MGTOW17/05/21 07:42 PM
1

They will call the police with a response time of under 5 minutes for a Karen in the Burbs
/r/MGTOW17/05/21 07:41 PM
2

This
/r/MGTOW17/05/21 07:39 PM
1

For the win.
/r/MGTOW17/05/21 07:32 PM
1

The site was designed to protect women from harassers. I reality's it protected men from women.
/r/MGTOW17/05/21 07:32 PM
1

Fake phone numbers and standing guys up was standard practice back then. So ghosting is less aggravating. Funny to see how much women complain and what a company will do when the shoe is on the other foot.
/r/MGTOW17/05/21 07:29 PM
1

And those guys could get MeToo'd at any moment it is convenient for her.
/r/MGTOW17/05/21 07:17 PM
1

With Biden they figure they have a protector which is why metoo is being resurrected. It is about intra-elite competition, political power and settling scores not justice. In any case best defense against Metoo is to go Monk, grey rock and document. If you don't come to her attention, it is less likely you will be metoo'd. Assume you don't have the right to "approach" a woman directly unless there is a business or job related reason to do so. PUA cold approaching dead. Sure things can be fabrica…
/r/MGTOW07/05/21 05:05 PM
2

Exactly why I avoid women in person, I don't DM them on line. Metoo isn't about justice it is about getting even at best, at worst its a weapon to eliminate competition or settle personal scores. Especially if anonymous accusations can bring someone down.
/r/MGTOW07/05/21 04:40 PM
1

Metoo became all about rich Karens getting even with an even richer white men.Metoo died when these Karens' own sons, husbands and even themselves started coming under the gun.
/r/MGTOW07/05/21 04:25 PM
2

Don't bang drunk chicks, if they are too impaired to drive, they are way too impaired to f*ck. How does a blond call a UBER or clear a room of smart men in the age of metoo? "I'm so drunk". I wish I was joking, you can get rolled up in someone else's BS if something bad goes down. If you white knight and drive her home, watch your 6. If she freaks out, you can be charged with attempted kidnapping, kidnapping, attempted stalking, stalking, attempted rape (all separate charges to give the jury mor…
/r/MGTOW03/05/21 02:21 PM
1

Hollywood was mostly garbage before metoo
/r/MGTOW03/05/21 02:00 PM
1

You can't avoid it 100% even if you don't run for office. Best defense: Go monk. If you can't go monk, don't rape. Understand women can change the definition of rape, harassment coercion at any time, and there is no ex-post facto protection from cancel culture. Document and record your life.
/r/MGTOW03/05/21 01:54 PM
1

You ain't lying
/r/MGTOW03/05/21 01:45 PM
2

Women get horny AF, often hornier then men. They may not want to be with you or I but when they want Chad they will go out of their way to bang him. What keeps women in check is slut shaming by other women and trying to land beta bucks. That's when women try to control the supply of sex to control men. Ironically that's how they lose control of Chad, Chad knows the game and that he can move on or she'll cave in. I'm no Chad, but even I have been harassed by drunk women who would not take no for …
/r/MGTOW03/05/21 01:36 PM
1

It doesn't prevent anything. Even monk won't prevent someone from making a false allegation. It is playing the odds. If she's the one dragging you to bed for sex, chances are good she won't lie unless you were a complete a$$ or she is completely nuts (aka Mattress Girl). Screening for crazies, making sure she is sober and cameras is your best bet there. If a woman doesn't like you, she will exaggerate any small offense or out right lie without dragging you to bed. A girls friends are another mat…
/r/MGTOW29/04/21 07:23 PM
1

A woman giving you the full porn star experience is unlikely to have regrets enough to file a false charge unless you were lying to get laid. Also most women don't want it out in public that they were begging to bang you in a way that would make a porno actress blush. Were you run into problems are with: You have to convince her to have sex. Seduction is a two way street. She's drunk or high. You lied to get laid.
/r/MGTOW28/04/21 07:36 PM
-1

You shouldn't bang a woman unless she is practically dragging you to bed. If she is lukewarm or passive back way off. Later, if she asks why you backed away, simply answer you didn't seem interested and throw the ball back her way. Better to piss her off by not putting out than to be a rapist.
/r/MGTOW28/04/21 04:49 PM
2

Gents this is simple. She plays hard to get, walk away end of story. NO misunderstanding, no rape, no sexual assault.
/r/MGTOW28/04/21 02:59 PM
2

Avoid. Feminazis are decriminalizing sex work but working real hard to criminalize or at least marginalize the male customers. It the US, getting busted may land you a human trafficking aggrevating charge.
/r/MGTOW28/04/21 02:52 PM
2

True
/r/MGTOW28/04/21 02:46 PM
-1

I understand some items on that list are pretty bad behaviors. Ask her out for a drink, she politely turns you down and you politely move on, that is harassment now, really? Wow, how many guys have ask women out on dates and have been turned down. Every last one of us is guilty of harassment then. A wink, really? Depending on the context how it was done, a wink rising to the level of harassment. What is really happening here is minor behaviors are now being classified as flashing, groping. When …
/r/MGTOW28/04/21 02:38 PM
1

While not rape, those behaviors are still pretty shitty and illegal under other laws. Still pretty black and white. Since most men don't behave this way normally the grey areas are much more dangerous. Grey areas such as a girl and a guy get pretty drunk at a party or bar. Both are visibly hammered, she is pretty aggressive about getting sex from the drunk guy and she will not take no for an answer. The guy gives in and has sex. Is that rape or sexual assault? Who raped or assaulted who? Logical…
/r/MGTOW28/04/21 02:10 PM
1

Sweden has 75% conviction rate because of this. A 75% conviction can be explained a 2ways. Either the district attorney is very conservative on what they take to court, only taking cases that there is a lot of evidence for and the government is only counting cases taken to court and plea deals. Or there is a lot of corruption in the court system. If it is a 75% conviction rate of all cases reported, then you certainly have a corrupt and biased system.
/r/MGTOW28/04/21 01:40 PM
1

The excuse people give for the real reason. The second you touch her the police descend on you in force.
/r/MGTOW26/04/21 07:32 PM
1

The law will only be applied against men.
/r/MGTOW26/04/21 07:16 PM
17

If he keeps half, those assets get reposed by the bank, the state or used to pay out settlements. If she walks away with most of the assets, maybe his kids can have a life. He's FUBAR. He can get up to 40 years. Even if he gets less, he may never see daylight again. He will end up in solitary, if he doesn't he will get shanked. Even if they don't kill him inmates will deliberately target him for harassment. The guards may look the other way or do some provocations of there own. He will get addit…
/r/MGTOW21/04/21 07:34 PM
1

That is not a common situation any more.
/r/MGTOW21/04/21 03:26 PM
1

Yup a fact not noticed most of us, the roommate reported it. An argument can be made that in the roommate's eyes she witnessed or had knowledge of possible rape and reported it in good faith. So it is not a false accusation, if falls under "just a misunderstanding" of what really happened. Lesson for us, a third party can make an accusation based on their view of events and be legitimate. It's problematic because the 3rd parties only see part of what happened though their own lens. One person ma…
/r/MGTOW19/04/21 02:39 PM
1

No means no, Yes mean no. Simple.
/r/MGTOW19/04/21 02:37 PM
1

No kidding
/r/MGTOW17/04/21 01:55 PM
2

Flipping the script is what women do best
/r/MGTOW16/04/21 02:07 PM
2

Simple answer older women like to fuck their boy toys and they are less likely to flip the script on him. The power dynamic appears more balanced to the outside world. Less drama over all. Bang a 21 year old hottie, you're a manipulative creep and rapist taking advantage of a young girl etc... Even if she was the one that came on to you, she had a shit ton of kinks; she can and will often flip the script on you for any reason. Once she does flip the script and she sheds a few tears, the wrath of…
/r/MGTOW16/04/21 02:06 PM
5

Poor bastard. When she does stab him, he is hosed. She will claim self defense and he will get arrested if he lives. Knives are deadly.
/r/MGTOW15/04/21 01:02 PM
10

Certainly the case with female on male sexual assault/harassment.
/r/MGTOW15/04/21 12:40 PM
5

Considering that women's definition of rape is far more expanded than the legal definition, it is no surprise 80% of rapes go unreported. They can claim because it because you cannot disprove it either. You want to avoid this accusation, GYOW and keep your distance. It is really hard to rape someone if you don't get within 6 feet and keep your cloths on.
/r/MGTOW15/04/21 12:38 PM
1

No, they respect you the most when they fear the consequences of crossing you.
/r/MGTOW12/04/21 05:56 PM
1

One blowjob away from plantation? That means you're not really redpilled. No man is fully redpilled. The longer you go with out the more vulnerable you become to being put back on the plantation.
/r/MGTOW12/04/21 02:40 PM
2

Foodie call. Been there done that. ​ Still cheaper than marrying and divorcing.
/r/MGTOW12/04/21 02:36 PM
1

Yup. respect is not earned it's won.
/r/MGTOW12/04/21 01:05 PM
2

Sorry man.
/r/MGTOW09/04/21 11:23 PM
3

Can confirm they are the craziest on that crazy train. A white guy here.
/r/MGTOW09/04/21 11:23 PM
2

Please take them off our hands, please. Sorry brothers. Seriously, To everyone out there, black, white, asian, latino. Run white women be crazy and will back stab in a nano second. I'm white, I've been dealing with their shit for years. RUNNNNNN Save yourselves.
/r/MGTOW09/04/21 11:20 PM
1

Those people are idiots. Power corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. People will use their new power to fuck you
/r/MGTOW09/04/21 09:39 PM
3

Not to an engineer with high functioning ASD. Problem is the best people for some jobs are autistic, its the social game that kills them.
/r/MGTOW09/04/21 09:36 PM
1

Wow,
/r/MGTOW09/04/21 09:29 PM
2

Yup, he gave them the ammunition to shoot him with.
/r/MGTOW09/04/21 09:26 PM
1

4th feminism wave is evolving, to give women the benefits of feminisms with the protections of patriarchy
/r/MGTOW08/04/21 03:06 PM
1

Truth
/r/MGTOW08/04/21 02:58 PM
1

The men who are hurt the most by infidelity are the ones who have actually sacrificed the most. So it's not her cheating that really hurt him on it's own, but really but how much time he as the man had put into the relationship just for it to be thrown away That is why it is such a betrayal. Everything you did just pissed away.
/r/MGTOW08/04/21 02:58 PM
1

Athletes have money and status far beyond their age and judgement can properly handle. Teams really need to hire teams of baby sitters and handlers to shew away woman. The problem for Watson is: it could have happened and he likely has "screwed over" a lot of women in the past. He gave those woman the ammunition to use against him. Was it criminal who knows. Stupid beyond a doubt. The timing of the accusations are certainly suspect if given his issues with the team.
/r/MGTOW08/04/21 01:57 PM
3

Only things you can do are Hide in plain site. Go monk or severely curtail dating and casual sex. Control you alcohol and drug use. Make friends and lots of allies Focus on your hobbies and interests Keep tabs on what radical feminists are calling rape, harassment, cat calling misconduct, coercion. They will mutate the definitions of the words. Don't do those things. Record your daily interactions Three principles Are stay under the radar. Don't do creepy shit Record and document activities This…
/r/MGTOW08/04/21 01:07 PM
1

Don't date, simple
/r/MGTOW08/04/21 12:39 PM
3

True, same goes for verbal abuse. Problem with fighting back physically, you will get arrested. In many jurisdictions even if you have evidence that she hit you and you did nothing you get arrested.
/r/MGTOW08/04/21 12:38 PM
4

Maybe let them, less shit I have to deal with.
/r/MGTOW06/04/21 09:37 PM
1

Can confirm. Do not ever marry, the will eat your soul.
/r/MGTOW06/04/21 06:04 PM
35

Good, I'm short. I'll let you tall MFs fall on that sword lol
/r/MGTOW06/04/21 06:00 PM
5

Remember consent can be withdrawn at any time. Anything can be seen a coercion. Any thing can be seen as harassment. Simple go monk, go online for most classes except key core classes. When out and about, avoid contact, go down separate hall ways and isles, use separate elevators, sit as far away as possible and in a location where you have to make an effort to look her way. That will mitigate most of your risk. She has to fabricate everything. Stay the fuck sober. Bad things happen when you are…
/r/MGTOW06/04/21 05:57 PM
6

He is fantasizing over a waifu because a real woman will either reject him or just as likely use him up and spit him out.
/r/MGTOW06/04/21 05:40 PM
1

I've been in a few bar fights because of idiot friends. I've even done some white knighting in my younger BP days (the girls were being harassed). These situations are chaotic in the extreme, they can escalate out of control in blink of eye, weapons drawn, he has more friends than you etc.... Not fun at all. What people expect is for some guy to jump in and save the day. Which is not what the law requires. Administering first aid calling, the police, emergency medical meets the criteria of rende…
/r/MGTOW01/04/21 06:23 PM
1

Never marry
/r/MGTOW01/04/21 02:02 PM
2

By calling you a creep they can justify banning, white knighting, even physical assault and arrest. Women have been playing this game since they were in grade school.
/r/MGTOW01/04/21 02:01 PM
1

​ Calling authorities is about the only duty anyone has. Intervening in this situation can get you hurt, killed, even arrested and jailed. The criminal can sue you as well.
/r/MGTOW01/04/21 01:58 PM
1

Why should we protect anyone if there’s no payoff? Societies that have this only accomplish it because they’re very patriarchal. This means men protect. However men have many benefits that go along with this. This is not a patriarchal country. So don’t expect anyone to help. The guy is wrong. Definitely. But no one has to help you. Bingo
/r/MGTOW01/04/21 01:55 PM
2

White knighting is dangerous, end of story. Your best outcome is everyone walks away uninjured. Every other outcome involves a good chance of" injury, death arrest, prison. White knights are deluded fools betting against crap odds. White knights are potentially dangerous if they target you by mistake. Some are just bullies looking for a convenient excuse to beat someone down.
/r/MGTOW01/04/21 01:51 PM
1

You have no duty to intervene. You can be injured or killed. There is a good chance you will get arrested as well. when you need her as witness on your behalf, she will be nowhere to be found.
/r/MGTOW01/04/21 01:41 PM
2

My condolences
/r/MGTOW01/04/21 01:37 PM
3

Welcome to every civilization since mean kind started living in permanent settlements and growing their food instead of hunting it.
/r/MGTOW31/03/21 04:12 PM
25

When the first one burns him, he will learn.
/r/MGTOW31/03/21 04:07 PM
2

Great resets can turn violent
/r/MGTOW30/03/21 05:24 PM
2

Extreme polygamy societies are very unstable and violent. Either those societies implode, people leave or those societies export their violence via conquest. You don't even need extreme polygamy to destabilize society, when you have 109-115 men for every 100 women across all age brackets would be enough to cause havoc.
/r/MGTOW30/03/21 05:19 PM
6

Yeah consent is simple. No means no, Yes means no. Even is she was pressuring you into sex, she can change her mind at any point during and years after. Safer to assume you don't have consent
/r/MGTOW30/03/21 02:24 PM
8

My son has high functioning autism. He can do well in school but socially it makes him a target for bullying. Having a girlfriend is not likely to be in the cards for him. Girls were his biggest bullies by proxie, the girls would gang up to get other boys to do their dirty work. He knows to avoid girls. However, he is awkward enough that he will piss some chick off. Anything he does can be twisted into rape, sexual assault, harassment and he doesn't have the verbal skills to defend himself. 504 …
/r/MGTOW30/03/21 02:12 PM
33

Cults and dictatorships do this all the time. Its is a massive form of gaslighting. If you refuse you are done
/r/MGTOW30/03/21 01:57 PM
1

Why it is a powerful tool but dangerous tool. Great for selling a car and getting women, except a car won't try to kill or destroy you.
/r/MGTOW29/03/21 02:11 PM
2

When your enemy is making a mistake, don't stop them and get out of the way
/r/MGTOW29/03/21 02:08 PM
11

Don't blame him, what happens when she is 14+ and now lying about being molested.
/r/MGTOW29/03/21 02:05 PM
3

We are not getting the full story from the tweet. Were both parties stumbling drunk, that shouldn't be rape both parties are equally impaired. What gets men is both parties are equally impaired and the male is the only one punished. If a girl is high or drunk, leave her alone. Simple. Let some other idiot fall on that sword. Help a buddy out and cockblock his ass. Followed that rule for many years, I even pissed a fair number of women off who clearly had a bad case of beer goggles.
/r/MGTOW29/03/21 02:03 PM
2

UK tourists generally don't come up on a US cop's radar especially once you leave the famous cities. Boston, NYC, LA, San Fran, Miami. Race and class, Black, Hispanic, lower class Asians, White trash tend to get the worst of it in about that order.
/r/MGTOW18/03/21 12:32 PM
3

US cops are no where near that "nice" even if you are white. Once you are in their cross hairs you are scum. God help you if you are black or hispanic. Having money and good lawyers buys you time, a trial and some measure of politeness. Everyone else gets beat down. If some group of Karens has it in for you though, yeah you are screwed.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 10:12 PM
1

I believe it's UK. Many departments around have adopted things similar to the duluth model as political CYA even outside the US. Remove the most obvious threat, the guy. Its political suicide not to.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 09:56 PM
5

This is just your lizard/monkey brain talking. Sometimes we mistake friendliness for flirting. If you haven't had any female attention in a while, you are even more vulnerable to these mistakes. Stop spending hours with her on facebook. It gives you a false sense of connection and intimacy. Be polite, answer or engage in an interesting topic but no more, be friendly but do not flirt back especially over text and messenger. That is evidence of sexual harassment that can be pulled out of context. …
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 02:07 PM
2

Child support is not meant to support or compensate her. It is money to be used to raise child.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 01:51 PM
13

I'm surprised they didn't arrest him.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 01:47 PM
1

Neither party should be able to force sex upon the other. By the same token neither party should hold the other hostage economically and emotionally by denying sex then getting a big divorce pay out. Extended periods of No sex should be grounds for an at fault divorce unless there is a medical reason that cannot be fixed. If the person(s) refuse(s) to fix their no sex condition, therapy, change in meds etc... then it should be grounds for an at fault divorce. A sexless and verbally abusive marri…
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 01:44 PM
1

Yup
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 04:46 PM
1

Actually that is true. Women actively seek to break up male friendships
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 01:57 PM
1

Yup.
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 01:56 PM
1

THIS
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 01:51 PM
2

Child soldiers hand down.
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 01:51 PM
2

Women have purposely divided men to control them. Men did not see women as competition for that last 100 years. Many men now do and are treating women accordingly unfortunately those men are a minority.
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 01:46 PM
7

More likely to be the case. Or in some cases a guy gets married, has a couple of kids as she turns into an insufferable b!tch.
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 01:43 PM
2

Woman drugging a man to have sex is considered funny because people think it can't happen. It happens more than we like to admit.
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 01:40 PM
1

classic
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 01:35 PM
7

I stopped regretting passing up opportunities a while ago. After #MeToo, I dodge those opportunities with zero f*cks given now. What was consensual today may not be tomorrow at her whim even if she was the one initiating. No trial, just asocial media mob attack => no job, wrecked life.
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 01:34 PM
14

'm always puzzled by people describing single mothers as "brave" and "strong". It is assumed she was abandoned by the father of the children or he was abusive and she finally left him. That has been the narrative for the last 50 years, so much so it is a cliché. The truth is far more complicated than that.
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 01:23 PM
2

Single moms first priority should be their kids, just like a single dad. No woman wants to date a single dad for the same reasons, she would not be his priority. Some divorced dads at least have some time to themselves during the week to make the GF a priority. Single dad = dad with majority or sole custody of the kids. Rare but it does happen.
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 01:21 PM
7

Metoo is a shit storm hurricane too unpredictable to be used as cover.
/r/MGTOW12/03/21 08:29 PM
1

MeToo, is the weapon to get him out. 1200 old people who are likely to die in the next 6 months to year. You can side step those. Sexual misconduct can raise the Karen shit storm to 11 making it near impossible to stay in office.
/r/MGTOW12/03/21 08:28 PM
1

Agreed. Lawyer up. You may get your job back until you can find a new one. You can sue to 2 years income and clean up your work record.
/r/MGTOW12/03/21 03:15 PM
1

Screw her and the horse she came in on. Her need to "feel" safe does not trump anyone's rights.
/r/MGTOW12/03/21 03:01 PM
1

Men have to compete for those high paying coding jobs and produce results. There are no supports. The ladies that can code in that environment, hats off to them. Those princesses that want privileges too bad.
/r/MGTOW11/03/21 02:32 PM
1

Seriously, he would be the one being charged.
/r/MensRights09/03/21 07:23 PM
2

Gender aggravated by race. Karens are damned quick to drop a dime on any man, if he's black its even worse. As a white guy, I am less likely to be in thwip62's position but it is not beyond the realm of possibility. At least my white privilege might buy me enough time call my lawyer when the cops show up while I still have a job. After seeing the Chris Cooper Central Park video my trust of white women has dropped to zero. And I'm a white ass non-woke anti-SJW SOB and damned proud of it. Even I c…
/r/MensRights09/03/21 07:22 PM
11

The real story is MEN GIVING UP PURSUIT OF RELATIONSHIPS for other personal goals due to current social dynamic. That’s why MGTOW exists and the media although picking up on the trend always needs to Frame it in some defamatory way against men. That is the real issue. Women are no longer partners to men. Women are in competition even with their own husbands, fathers and brothers for resources and status while claiming the need for special protections. You don't have sex with your competition, it…
/r/MGTOW09/03/21 03:09 PM
1

The pendulum will swing the other way. Society cannot continue to act in those extremes without serious repercussions. The only defense at the moment is to not give women the ammunition they need and force them to get even more ridiculous or outright lie. When they do lie strike back hard on social media, the courts etc... with what ever evidence you have. If you can't sink her sink someone she cares about.
/r/MGTOW08/03/21 06:47 PM
2

I can say that he has a LOT of enemies on both sides. He’s quite simply a jerk with remarkably little charm. After 12 years, he will not be missed in NY politics. This probably had more to do with the accusations than any real transgressions. MeToo is a weapon not a justice tool.
/r/MGTOW08/03/21 06:40 PM
2

No surprise. Women don't want the bottom 80% anyway. In the age of MeToo where anything can be Misconduct at anytime. The cost of a beer goggles induced sex is too high. Even chads are vulnerable as the age out of chad status.
/r/MGTOW05/03/21 02:55 PM
2

Drunken one night stand = rape today. The guy would have to be pretty drunk himself to go down that road. Her: "I'm so drunk..." is no longer a mating call. Him: "let me call you an uber home."
/r/MGTOW05/03/21 02:50 PM
1

That will break society. Men have little incentive now. Something like that will cause a revolt.
/r/MGTOW05/03/21 02:43 PM
4

What they have discovered is they are next on the grist mill. There is no point allying yourself with a group that will turn on you tomorrow.
/r/MGTOW05/03/21 02:36 PM
5

Agreed. MeToo is the weapon of choice for intra-elite warfare. Cheap and easy, zero risk. All you need is just a Kernel of truth and stretch of the definition of what is sexual assault. It is used to go after mostly white, powerful males. Sexual Assault has been redefined under metoo to mean rape all the way to staring and being creepy to simply sating hello or trying to dance with a girl in club. The non legal term sexual misconduct has become the umbrella term used lumping everything into one …
/r/MGTOW03/03/21 02:27 PM
1

You live for your self and any children you may have brother.
/r/MGTOW03/03/21 02:05 PM
3

At least she is honorable in that. Many, in fact most women are NOT.
/r/MGTOW03/03/21 01:59 PM
3

Pot calling kettle black. There is no more privileged and protected creature on the planet than a pretty young white woman. Much of that protection remains well into old age too as long as she stays on the right side of other women. ​ Men of all races and status have to compete for the right to survive let alone thrive. Just because you are born rich doesn't mean you get to stay that way if you play your cards wrong.
/r/MGTOW03/03/21 01:59 PM
2

Do we need a book for this, just watch how women behaved as girls in Middle and High School. Boys girls didn't like learned to stay away and ignore her. The counter is the same and even easier in adult world, stay away from them and ignore them. If you have to talk to her, keep your interactions formal. Don't give her any ammo. Stealth and grey rock method will be your friend. She will move on. Have lots of male friends for support. If she stoops to lying, go full scorched earth on her. You have…
/r/MGTOW02/03/21 04:41 PM
4

Depends on how you use ladies or ma'am. Body language and tone of voice can flip the meaning on its head. Personally I love using ma'am with a slight drawl. It completely de-sexualizes her while she thinks I'm being nice. If she gets pissy, I just escalate its usage with a very different tone of voice.
/r/MGTOW02/03/21 04:23 PM
1

Many teachers are huge freaks even those that only bang adults. It's a profession that can mask the freak due to the halo effect and a strong union. Although if they get caught there is hell to pay.
/r/MGTOW26/02/21 03:31 PM
1

Girls build girl brigades no surprise there. When men do it is illegal. This will lead to instability down the road. .
/r/MGTOW26/02/21 03:24 PM
2

Some are very depraved. Almost all of them are some of the most ruthless conformists and social bullies you will ever see.
/r/MGTOW24/02/21 07:46 PM
1

Go tips
/r/MGTOW24/02/21 04:52 PM
2

Came here to say that.
/r/MGTOW223/02/21 05:52 PM
1

Apologizing is evidence of your guilt so now you can be punished more severely. Some people will not let things go.
/r/MGTOW223/02/21 05:47 PM
1

Depends on the older woman but if she is still hunting, you will get treated better and there is better chance of her being a kink if she is going after younger men. Cougars know how to hunt and are bold as fuck about it. Best sex I've had was a with a 50 year old school teacher into younger men, full porn star experience and free use. Down side I wasn't her only boy toy on rotation so I cut her lose before things got too serious. Damn she was fun. Plus side older women are not seen as helpless …
/r/MGTOW23/02/21 02:53 PM
1

Lawyer up
/r/MGTOW23/02/21 02:41 PM
2

Women are the biggest conformists and social bullies on the planet. This is how they do it.
/r/MGTOW23/02/21 02:38 PM
1

All sex is rape is what she is advocating. Economics is a form a coercion. Some radfems have been arguing this for years when it come to marriage. From her other statements she is more of a trad-thot that wants to keep men on the reservation. The contradictions on her comment are just a woman's ways of having her cake and to eat it too.
/r/MGTOW23/02/21 02:27 PM
5

" From the vantage point of the Modern Female, everything that exists, exists to serve her needs. " That has always been the case for elite women in society. Before Karens there were the Miss Anns. In any case its not so much the rise in Karens it's that their exposure and power has been magnified through social media. Social media has turned adult life into one big middle school. It is the same game, generate outrage point the teacher, the police or internet mob to destroy you. More sophisticat…
/r/MGTOW23/02/21 02:20 PM
23

That's the reason women don't want male spaces. Women want total control male only spaces are a threat to that. ​ Also if men want male only spaces, it's simple don't cater to women's tastes. You will get a few that will come in but most will avoid those spaces.
/r/MGTOW23/02/21 01:49 PM
4

Depends on the policy. Also she now gets everything else. House, money, retirement
/r/MGTOW23/02/21 01:46 PM
2

might not be a suicide...possible foul play. she's not "upset" or "troubled" bc now he doesn't contest shit and she GETS IT ALL...INCLUDING THE LIFE INSURANCE MONEY. If it is, the cops will figure it out pretty quickly. Insurance scams like this have been going on for hundreds of years.
/r/MGTOW23/02/21 01:45 PM
2

Only option is to go monk, no one really cares if a guy gets ruined. Out of sight out of mind, gray rock defense. Out right false accusations mostly happen when a woman wants revenge or she trying to cover up her indiscretions. Most other cases involves alcohol /drugs or a reinterpretation as to what constitutes coercion. Revenge or covering up indiscretions still come into play. These are the most dangerous because there is a enough of a kernel of truth to the story to make people think it's tr…
/r/MGTOW19/02/21 06:52 PM
1

There are girls that use college to get the MRS degree. The competition to land chad is even more brutal on dating aps. That's why women are complaining. Chad had better watch his 6, or he'll get #meToo'd Reading in between the lines, it is indicating we are headed to some serious instability in the next 10+ years. As guys get shut out of colleges. Those that make it and a subject to getting #meToo'd on a whim, that's a lot of excess men with no ties to the system with doors closed to them. Not …
/r/MGTOW16/02/21 06:46 PM
1

Document and record every argument you have with her and why it happened. We all know that isolating a man from his old friends is default behaviors for women. You still have to prove it. If you can prove it, oh the irony would be sweat.
/r/MGTOW16/02/21 06:10 PM
1

Run and keep on running.
/r/MGTOW16/02/21 06:08 PM
1

True, even a guy cold approaching a woman he doesn't know in a bar or club would be seen as threatening or insulting to her. By doing it, he's seen as either a rapist or john soliciting a prostitute. In the US that old world custom died in the early 20th century because immigrants often didn't have a way to meet someone to marry. Also in the US, people move around so much that often times you family is 2 thousand miles away.
/r/MGTOW16/02/21 06:07 PM
2

These women are doing everyone a favor then.
/r/MGTOW16/02/21 05:58 PM
2

The look on his face is priceless.
/r/MGTOW16/02/21 05:56 PM
1

Murder suicides just blacken you name further and hers gets elevated to sainthood. Also once a person gets to the point of choosing suicide they are not think rationally.
/r/MGTOW16/02/21 05:49 PM
1

That is a matter for the courts and state to decide to reform. The courts are set up do deal with male offenders. Women and girls offenders get therapy and lessor sentences especially with male victims. Female offenders are perceived as less of a threat. Perceived to cause less damage. Presumed more treatable. All males offenders are assumed to be more dangerous. Males get prison and little in the way of therapy. The is strong desire to punish rather that treat. Male offenders are presumed to be…
/r/MGTOW16/02/21 05:05 PM
3

Family court in the US comes from a different POV. Crimes get alleged in family court with little evidence for financial advantage all the time. None get reported to law enforcement because that would make the man un able to pay.
/r/MGTOW12/02/21 10:51 PM
9

purposefully start a fight after dinner that it wasn’t romantic enough or some other bullshit This is a lot more common than people are willing to admit. Starting a fight will kill the sex drive for days if not weeks if the guy is just mad. If he actually feels guilty/bad, he'll be broken for months and she can control him after she break up with him, extorting him for more $$$.
/r/MGTOW12/02/21 10:48 PM
5

The world is turning into one big middle school. ​ Now we just need to hold women to the same standards
/r/MGTOW12/02/21 02:53 PM
1

They will never learn will they. Trump was able to gin up a mob because of shit like this. Anyway, as the Trump republican party tears itself apart and becomes smaller, the Democrats are will tear themselves up soon after as centrists push the party back more to the middle.
/r/MGTOW12/02/21 02:51 PM
2

Yes I've heard of Traci Lords. Some girls are groomed and some girls will do their own grooming. Either way adults need to show judgement.
/r/MGTOW10/02/21 02:39 PM
2

The only thing that realistically kept a girl in check was slut shaming by her female peers and mothers. Once that was removed, a 14 year old will do what she pleases.
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 09:08 PM
4

Some girls start having sex at crazy ages with men at their 30s or 40s, you just don't hear about them a lot. ​ It happens a lot more frequently that anyone wants to admit and it's not always some pedo-predator cat-calling, harassing or pressuring some young girl either. Girls will lie about their age, they will do some pressuring and manipulating of their own. Fortunately they are kids so you can spot their BS pretty quickly and RUN. I've had girls as young as 15 make moves on me as an adult. I…
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 09:07 PM
1

This was happening long before the internet and readily accessible porn. AOC laws and slut shaming have been around a very long time. It was also why they married so young back in the day (when times were good). You could only expect so many years of "good behavior" out of someone. You wanted your daughter married off before she got pregnant. Peer slut shaming could only work for so long.
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 08:14 PM
2

Her not know who the father is doesn't surprise me at all. You all would be surprised how horny a 14 year old girl can be and who she is willing to bang. They also have no concept of long term consequences. That's why they are so easy "to manipulate". These are the major reasons why there are age of consent laws were put into effect and society used slut shaming (by girls and women is most effective) to control it.
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 08:09 PM
7

Remember the feminist mantra, all sex is rape except lesbian sex or sex with chad. If you are beta bux it's rape.
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 07:43 PM
2

Agreed this is why you really shouldn't go after the other guy. Honestly he may not know what's up. This case was a coworker he knew what's up and di it anyway. Honestly no matter how much fun shooting him or the wife would be, it would be even more fun to file a sexual harassment/hostile work environment case against the coworker and the company. Then scorch earth divorce the wife. Shooting is too quick, too clean, too painless. The company may settle with you and fire the chad. The whole thing…
/r/MGTOW08/02/21 02:58 PM
1

Word
/r/MGTOW08/02/21 02:46 PM
3

Holy shit, no kidding man. I live in neighborhood full of upper middle class Karens. They are as dangerous as a copperhead snake. These women have perfected the game of appearing innocent but are fully capable of using 3rd parties to destroying your life. They will do it to get their kids ahead or out of spite. I'm white and I watch my ass around them.
/r/MGTOW05/02/21 08:32 PM
4

Several agents on Presidential detail Secret Service, it made the news. A couple of them were fired, many others were reprimanded as a result. Yes, prostitution is legal in Columbia, the girls are hot AF, yes I've been to Bogota, Columbia. I would not visit escorts even if is legal in today's Metoo environment. It's only a matter of time before firings and reprimands becomes common place even if prostitution is legal. In many places prostitution is not illegal but buying is illegal. hmmm... I wo…
/r/MGTOW05/02/21 08:14 PM
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Stay way from sex tourism. It's a good way to end up on a watch list. Using pros in todays climate is dangerous even if its legal. Perfect reason to fire someone for cause in the US even in a non-right to work/union state if word gets back.
/r/MGTOW04/02/21 10:09 PM
3

Depends on the guy. You would be surprised how freaky older women can be. Older women they cast a much wider net than younger girls. Many are just looking for a good bang. I banged a school teacher who was about 20 years older than me. She had a body that put girls half her age to shame. No kids. In bed, it was a full on Porn Star Experience/free use. Things that younger women were not into at the time unless you are in the top 10% of chads or you were paying an escort big bucks for. Sure younge…
/r/MGTOW04/02/21 04:30 PM
1

Not anymore. Companies are very PR sensitive, if someone, especially a woman, finds me offensive, I will be let go immediately if she contacts my company. Social media has erased all anonymity
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 11:11 PM
1

Never do one on one with male friends you just want to be friends with. If you do, make sure its just friends is abundantly clear. Guys don't approach in the wild anymore because there are far more consequences today for getting it wrong than a simple humiliation. Even set pieces like night clubs, bars are not good places to try anything anymore even before covid. OLD is really the only place left. 20-30 years ago, you were anonymous. If a guy followed certain rules and was gracious when rejecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 11:08 PM
2

That sums it up
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:37 PM
1

I know nothing about that major bio-medical engineering but it is a STEM degree. Do some more research to nail it down. On the surface its STEM and engineering so its probably a good degree to get. While at school they will run you through your general ed classes and run you through liberal bull shit. Believe what you like but in those classes parrot back their bull shit to them. Play the game and keep your eye on the prize. General advice: Focus on your studies and its OK to change majors if yo…
/r/MGTOW03/02/21 07:42 PM
3

I've had to fend off a few very drunk chick who did not want take no for an answer. Do I qualify as a victim/survivor? I'm male, I guess not. For the record, when the incidents happened these chicks had very bad cases of beer googles. Bad enough that I would be raping them if I did have sex with them, even by 1990's standards. Two, I was more worried about what 3rd parties (police, bouncers, white knights) might do than what she might do to me physically. I was certainly worried what she might d…
/r/MGTOW03/02/21 03:34 PM
1

So true
/r/MGTOW03/02/21 02:47 PM
1

Yes, some Karen can use that to destroy you. She will only say you scared her and was threatening. Mean while you simply looked at her too long.
/r/MGTOW03/02/21 02:44 PM
2

to keep hurting a particular group of society and trying to convince them that it’s men or republicans or literally anyone else that fits their agenda on the day? That is exactly what she is doing and it is intentional. Remember street definition of sexual assault is ranges from a unwelcome strange man trying to talk to her, to an ass slap, all the way to full on assault. Since she is not naming her attacker we cannot prove the assault did not happen and she can now claim being assaulted and use…
/r/MGTOW03/02/21 02:42 PM
1

Princesses need to learn consent is a two way street. Both parties have to agree yes and any one partner can say no, veto power with no override.
/r/MGTOW03/02/21 02:19 PM
12

Ghosting her is all he can do. Problem with sexual assault like this, is there often no physical proof and cops won't investigate. The only way to get cops to investigate is to get her name on a database and hope other victims report. Other male victims are unlikely to come forward to corroborate his story. Male victims that did come forward during the height of #MeToo that have were nearly universally shunned if it was a female on male assault.
/r/MGTOW03/02/21 02:18 PM
2

Reducing intimate contact between boys and girls will make girls less special to boys. Were it not for the social pressures or sexual tensions generated from proms and other school dances, boys wouldn't get it in their heads that they need a GF or a wife in order to feel good about themselves and to enjoy life. Well said
/r/MGTOW02/02/21 11:30 PM
15

never trade anything of value for sex.
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 10:06 PM
6

Most men don;t bother to report. It will be ignored or he will get arrested
/r/MensRights29/01/21 09:56 PM
1

then we need to stop praising women for basic parental duties. Who needs Mother' s day.
/r/MensRights29/01/21 09:54 PM
5

Fights of any kind are chaos. When the shooting starts training takes over. Train your sons to do the smart thing not what some teacher tells you with regards to being a meat shield for some girl or women and children first. Shooter situation and unarmed. 1) Escape, evade hide. Get out of the kill box any way you can. 2) if you cannot escape barricade the fucking door. 3) Prepare for a very messy close quarters combat with what ever is at hand. Close in with quickly with numbers and fight like h…
/r/MensRights29/01/21 09:52 PM
1

Came to say something similar. The OP is her backup guy/side dick.
/r/MGTOW229/01/21 09:21 PM
2

Civilization is a zero sum game.
/r/MGTOW229/01/21 09:16 PM
1

WW3 will be over before the draftees hit the line. It will go Nuke and everybody is fucked. Or if it stays conventional, first tier forces mall each other so badly there won't be much of an military left to join on either side.
/r/MGTOW229/01/21 08:19 PM
1

This guy is a dirt bag if what she alleged is true. How ever it is just one more example of social media can be used even if you don't have an account. Its also very good example of a woman scorned and how she can go scorched earth on you. Something very easy to do with just a keyboard. Women and girls have not had this ability since they were in middle and high school. Best advice try not to do dirty deeds. If he wasn't cheating he wouldn't be in as much trouble. Even if you are clean, good OPS…
/r/MGTOW229/01/21 06:45 PM
1

Came to say THIS
/r/MGTOW229/01/21 06:29 PM
1

That will go on until they actually live under a communist system. Except those at the top of that communist party pyramid it will be an oh shit moment. History doesn't repeat but is sure as hell rhymes
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 03:15 PM
2

That's when you short the stock legally. GME has gone beyond investing and more like the little guys are fronting up fuck you money
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 03:12 PM
2

You bought the stock on credit. If it falls below a certain point, you have to cover the margin or sell to pay back the loan.
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 03:08 PM
2

Trades are done in the open, but there is often a lag between when the information actually gets compiled then hits regular investors on the street. Institutional investors watch each others like hawks and have analysist and specialists on staff to figure out the who is playing what. Even the big boys have lags between when they get the information and how they can react. Its called arbitrage. Also since nearly everybody is dirty no one reports it. The war between the bears and bulls have bas be…
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 03:04 PM
3

You're right I think this is going beyond trying to make money on the hoopla but a ground swell revolt against the hedge fund guys at this point. This is Main street with fuck you money for a change.
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 02:38 PM
2

THIS. Also the upswing in GME and other shorted stocks against these hedgefund traders has stepped beyond making money, anyone looking to make money betting against the hedge boys those guys have gotten out. Right now its a game of musical chairs or people willing to burn fuck you money going to war with the hedge boys.
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 02:32 PM
7

In other words all sex is rape.
/r/MGTOW28/01/21 02:00 AM
1

No. Marrying up subjects you to the same abuses as marrying down. She just has more money to fuck you over with. Especially if she is old money or earned her money via a high powered career or business. She'll have the clout to burry you
/r/MGTOW227/01/21 04:52 PM
1

From the quick google its a more user friendly term than MGTOW. The author is basically repackaging TRP/MGTOW and selling it to civilians/fence sitters. In a way repackaging MGTOW down to general core principles minus the "hate/misogyny" is a good thing. It keeps the principles of MGTOW and red pill out there just under the censorship radar. I like the idea of it. So instead of saying all women are trash and going off on a rant rage session. In a Free Agent Life Style we say here is your married…
/r/MGTOW227/01/21 04:10 PM
1

The only one I worry about is not getting a job. I work on my skills and self improvement. Being rejected by women, victory my plan is working. Being ignored by women, victory, my plan is working.
/r/MGTOW226/01/21 05:32 PM
1

Honestly playing the villain is the best part unless he is portrayed as a bumbling fool. The villain makes the hero(s) and gets all the cool lines.
/r/MGTOW226/01/21 05:30 PM
1

Abusive and controlling behavior. Don't even bother pumping and dumping
/r/MGTOW226/01/21 05:22 PM
1

Honestly depending on the outcry anyone is subject to their metoo moment.
/r/MGTOW226/01/21 05:18 PM
1

Metoo was a weapon to oust men. Sure there were some serious assholes that needed to go. But the intent was to tighten the standards to the point if you ask a woman to dance 20 years ago at a club you could be fired. MeToo blew over and died when some key high profile women got eaten their own MeToo moments.
/r/MGTOW226/01/21 05:15 PM
1

Use virtual box and VM to surf porn. It's slower because you are splitting resources with the VM but it isolates your PC from the surfing. Work from home has blended work and home so much that porn on your home PC can get you in trouble if something comes up in a zoom/teams meeting. HR Karens don't care about your privacy, neither do any other females.
/r/MGTOW226/01/21 05:06 PM
1

Sums it up nicely
/r/MGTOW226/01/21 04:55 PM
6

Those rules existed for a reason. It was a way of protecting men sold as redemption and protecting women. Brilliant if you ask me. I'm not religious.
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 04:45 PM
1

In the it was a sign of immaturity or you were so defective no one wanted to marry you. It's a sign that you have no stake in your community because you don't. You are more likely to rebel or otherwise cause trouble for the powers that be if you are single late in life. You are not serving your family's interests. In the past people were not as individualistic as they are today. Your ass belonged to your family/house. Marriages were business mergers even for commoners. You are denying your famil…
/r/MGTOW226/01/21 04:42 PM
1

So true
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 01:42 AM
2

All true until they invented MeToo. Then the game flipped
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 01:37 AM
2

The best is when they come after you to clean up because you didn't do a good enough job. You only didn't do a good enough job because she wants you to do 11 other things in the next hour or so. Of course you are cutting corners. No women do not care about men, they only want to fuck a few men and exploit the rest.
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 01:36 AM
6

Pretty much
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 07:04 PM
27

Bingo
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 07:01 PM
7

Or when other white women turn against them. White women are masters of the halo women are wonderful effect. Take it from a white guy, to all my black, brown and asian brothers out there don't trust white women. They will bring down the wrath of the entire system on your head.
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 01:24 AM
2

your English is better than mine. Debate judo can work well for those that have the gift for language. The biggest hurdle men have and especially men in the US is the women are wonderful halo effect. If makes women nearly unassailable. It makes verbal judo nearly impossible. To break that halo, you have to tarnish it. Hammer the point home women will abuse their power just like men. To give men a chance provide you need votes. To do that you need alternate means for men to bond and do stuff with…
/r/MGTOW24/01/21 11:17 PM
2

Please take her and the rest of the Karen's off our hands plleeassee. Fuck, I guess we're stuck ;0/
/r/MGTOW24/01/21 10:15 PM
2

Its an old game.
/r/MGTOW24/01/21 10:15 PM
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Guys we just have to admit to ourselves the feminists were right, all sex is a rape even if she is harassing you into sex. She will always claim coercion and the consent app is voided. By making consent complicated they have given someone the ability to blackmail or destroy you at anytime of her choosing. A silly ap will not save you. What gets me is consent is simple. Step 1 she wants your dick, yes or no. Step 2 She is sober, yes or no. Any no to those two conditions, no consent. When a woman …
/r/MGTOW24/01/21 10:05 PM
1

the jury could agree on murder and gave her the lower charge.
/r/MGTOW24/01/21 09:18 PM
8

White woman cries and black man dies (really any man). Fools will fall over themselves to protect her. The only time a woman especially a white woman gets he book thrown at her is she has pissed off a group of "upstanding women" in the community.
/r/MGTOW24/01/21 09:17 PM
2

That's why I only rolled the dice for 3 years. Get my GI bill and run.
/r/MGTOW24/01/21 08:53 PM
1

Its middle and high school for adults. The survival piece is just the gimmick. It is also the means of inducing isolation and stress on grown adults in order for them to break down their own social norms so the game can happen. It's a fun study in human nature and critique of modern society. It has nothing to do with survival.
/r/MGTOW24/01/21 08:51 PM
3

Private clubs can limit membership in the US. Its just not smart to do so by race, morality aside you are turning away allies. Its a crying shame to have to join ranks with neo nazis, surely we can come up with better. The keys is building around common interests and activities that are male centered. For all their faults maybe those southern rednecks are on to something with their gun culture, hunting and over sized trucks. It's a fuck you to the hidden matriarchy that is the southern US. There…
/r/MGTOW24/01/21 08:34 PM
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Color me surprised. This is the main reason I got out of the military. Once you are used up or no longer needed it's fuck you, get lost.
/r/MGTOW22/01/21 03:52 PM
1

Because to win Survivor you need the social game most of the time. Later seasons in the US has dropped most of the pretense of survival so players can focus on the social game.
/r/MGTOW22/01/21 03:47 PM
3

They killed a lot of other male organizations as well and we are now paying the price for it.
/r/MGTOW22/01/21 03:43 PM
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OPSEC is not just for on line. Follow Moscow rules, Google them. This is also why men need organizations and male clubs. I'm not talking Proud boys or alt right, Q-anon, Neo Nazi shit. I'm talking concrete organizations to push forward an agenda, force concessions and counter the cancel mindset. Crazy makes for easy targets and everyone else becomes collateral damage. Men are isolated easy targets right now. When men get organized cancel culture becomes mutually assured destruction culture.
/r/MGTOW22/01/21 03:41 PM
5

Sorry this happened brother. Stay safe enjoy your time remaining with your dad.
/r/MGTOW22/01/21 03:29 PM
1

Closer to 3 years. 10 years tops
/r/MGTOW22/01/21 03:25 PM
8

The correct term is a honey trap. Given the nature of how women and MeToo operate, any porn site that asks that many questions is going to get used to blackmail you at some point. They are all Honey Traps. What was a legal fun exchange today becomes "exploitation" and illegal tomorrow. There is no ex post facto legal protection from social shaming. As powerful as some organizations have become, there is more than enough political pressure to arrest, convict and in-prison you until you can get it…
/r/MGTOW22/01/21 03:24 PM
3

More than good enough reason to stay away from that site
/r/MGTOW22/01/21 03:10 PM
3

And hope you get lucky enough to get left alone on that life boat. Problem with Karens is they can't leave well enough alone. That life boat will get banned because it is taking resources away from her projects. They hate MGTOW more because we are offering an options and tarnished her halo. Men now have the options walking away or taking the kid gloves of when competing with women like we do with men. Same goes for other elites, intra elite competition is what drives societies to expand, economi…
/r/MGTOW22/01/21 03:06 PM
1

No joke man. I keep a good 10-20 ft away from all women now. If she is young or very pretty I will simply increase that distance and put barriers between us. Problem is men need hard clearly defined rules don't do this or that because it eliminates doubt. Women hate hard fast, clear rules because you can go up to that line and not get in trouble. They call it a loop hole. With opaque rules that can be rapidly changed you don't know where you stand and can be metoo'd for saying hello and being "t…
/r/MGTOW22/01/21 12:17 AM
2

This is pretty common behavior in coed leagues except among the few real women competitors who dish it out and expect to get hammered back. Some were actually insulted for taking it easy on them because they are there to play and get better against more physical players. Girls who complain about being treated as equal players are there to get a BF or collect SIMPS. These complainer girls also never play in all female leagues because the other women who are serous players would hand them their as…
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 09:02 PM
2

Girls and women are pervs when a guy is attractive to them. Sex to men is 90% physical. Sex to women is at least 50%-50% mental vs physical. Once you rev them up, watch out, they will do anything and come with shit you would never think about doing. BetaBux hubby will never see this side of his wife, the best he can hope for is duty sex 1-6 times a year.
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 08:43 PM
1

A walking date is good way to screen out entitled thots then.
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 08:35 PM
1

Honestly it depends on how much of her work affected my bonus. If she had no effect on their bonuses, then it is pure simping.
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 08:24 PM
1

You are right about that.
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 08:21 PM
1

The radical, the priest and the soldier all come from the same sewer -E Hoffer
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 08:13 PM
3

Bias or not he pretty much nails it with the intra elite competition. The ideology is just what is used to justify their actions and work up the mob. It doesn't matter if you are feminist, liberal, communist or conservative, religious, fascist the results and mechanisms are the same. Without getting into morality of the people and ideology, the rise of The TEA party, Trump, Occupy, MeToo even BLM follow the exact same patterns of intra elite competition. MeToo was not about justice except in for…
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 08:12 PM
1

People like her are the reason I go down different store isles just to avoid getting close to women. For when I do have to interact at a social event, I keep my distance and don't get too chummy. If she is getting too chummy, I make myself the butt of my own fat, short, old man jokes then I try to get out of there ASAP. Then I go looking for a shield, usually another dude to hide behind. Shit I feel like I'm in middle school again and these Karen's have a direct line to the principles office.
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 07:58 PM
1

Agreed that and couple with changing your user names often. User a burner email for each user name you should be OK. Although using TOR will make you look guilty AF and you may get banned just for that.
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 07:48 PM
2

welcome to big brother
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 07:44 PM
1

Scary as fuck isn't it. Had the same happen to me a couple of times. I even turned down a few girls aged 18-21 for the same reason who were showing interest when I was in my mid 30's. Thank god I did, they could easily metoo my ass at any point today, saying I manipulated them, was being a predator yadda yadda. Funny thing is they all initiated with me, I didn't make a move on them.
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 03:58 PM
1

It is a weapon to be used to oust you from your job. Welcome to the social media age.
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 03:52 PM
1

Said part, I can see it happening. There are few things more protected than young especially pretty white girls in their 20s from the right families and go to the right colleges.
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 03:51 PM
1

By claiming 29 year old to be babies, they can bring any man down who dates them at will. It also cuts off younger competition.
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 03:46 PM
1

Yup
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 03:43 PM
1

THIS
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 03:42 PM
1

She wanted to make sure he had enough money go around so she could get paid
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 03:41 PM
1

truth
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 03:38 PM
3

Also damaging the reputation of your employer and undisclosed immoral or criminal behavior can count as "cause" for dismissal in all 50 states, even union states. Many will just pay you to go away. Once outed, the Karens in your company will start to feel uncomfortable around you, complain to HR about a hostile work environment. Again cause. Union protections and protections given to ordinary workers don't apply to management. Especially upper management.
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 03:37 PM
3

114 year old red pill. True then as it is today.
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 03:28 PM
3

It hasn't changed, upper middle class stay at home Karens are the worst slavers.
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 03:26 PM
1

That has little to do with it. "Luck" & timing, drive, ambition and intestinal fortitude has more to do with it. These are the guys that seem to come from no where. Others have a wealth and connections on their side, which can propel you up the food chain with only average smarts.
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 03:21 PM
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Google it. Some of it BS, some of it's good or matter of opinion. Most of the good stuff comes from former military. But it boild down to keeping your mouth shut and information control. If you can't help yourself and post controversial stuff, always use a s VPN, use separate accounts for each social media persona with separate emails. Use a burner phone, use cash. Change your writing style as much as possible at a minimum. Basic principal is centered around controlling the information you have …
/r/MGTOW21/01/21 03:07 PM
2

Without context and at face value those texts/DMs are pretty damning even if they were welcomed. If those messages were unwelcomed...well shit he's a dumb ass. Men need to be careful of any flirting/sexual interaction today, even with a spouse or girlfriend. What is acceptable today will change with the wind without notice tomorrow. 3rd parties now also have a say in your interactions in ways that did not exist in the past 50 years. Paranoid sure, but even paranoids are right once in a while.
/r/MGTOW15/01/21 10:56 PM
4

Rules for the internet age. Anything you do online can and will be release without context and in the worst possible light. Social media has turned modern society into one gigantic middle school. Even if you delete all your social media, you don't get to opt out. Your family, friends will have pictures of you. Your phone will ping local cell towers. Somebody somewhere on social media will recognize you and give you up. Ex wives and girlfriends can be particularly nasty. People will fuck with you…
/r/MGTOW15/01/21 03:50 PM
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THIS is true. It could be role play instigated by her and he went along with the fun. Or he is a a dangerous asshat. We don't know. The optics don't look good here. Even if he was giving her the dirty talk she wanted at the time, it is threatening and offensive to others. BDSM/kink to outsiders looks like abuse and rape. Once exposed, very few women will stand up and say yeah I'm a sub and I not only consented but sought it out and asked to be dominated etc... Even if she does, most people will …
/r/MGTOW15/01/21 02:58 PM
1

There are local variations through out time across the world. MGTOW variations, rebellion and crime pops up when men have no incentive to stay and advance civilization. Why would any man work himself to death, fight in wars ect... if there was no chance of him benefiting from or knowing HIS children would benefit his taking on that risk? Why would he take on that risk for a wife and a society that will stab him in the back? We have reached that point in the west.
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 03:38 PM
1

How do you not care, get a girlfriend and marry her. You won't want one again. The reality of that cliche is true, women are not attracted to you unless you make yourself interesting. You make yourself interesting. Funny thing, by building yourself up you become happy with yourself and your self confidence grows. You won't care if there is a girlfriend or not. Here comes the irony, once you are happy with yourself, women start sniffing around and wreck that happy life you have built for yourself…
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 03:22 PM
2

Every single time I hear men describe their marriage it's some form of "I'm working non-stop and am tired all the time to the point where taking time off for myself seems wasteful unless it's to sleep... This part is true. Worth it only for your kids. If you don't intend on having kids, it is not worth it.
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 03:15 PM
1

Keep your skills sharp and look to jump to a better opportunities as the come along.
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 03:11 PM
1

Then let it die.
/r/MGTOW12/01/21 03:50 PM
1

Keep your pants on and your money in your wallets gents. Even if it is legal, some one will claim you raped because you paid them for sex. They'll claim "Economic Coercion" or some similar shit.
/r/MGTOW12/01/21 03:47 PM
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Even word choice gives them away. Men tend to be pretty brutal.
/r/MGTOW12/01/21 03:43 PM
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These guys got used by Trump and then thrown under the bus. These guys believe themselves to be heroes, instead they threw away their lives. Antifa will cover their faces when they go all black block, not heroic but effective. Remember gents your ex wives, girlfriends, female relatives and even your own mother will rat you out for revenge, reward or to save her own skin.
/r/MGTOW12/01/21 03:41 PM
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Lessons learned. Don't fuck or gang bang drunk sluts, her story will change to cover her ass. So if this shit happens at your place because of your room mates, shut that shit down or leave. When this happened to me when I was in the military, I pulled rank and shut the party down. It was not as fun as porn would lead you to believe. Understand if you white knight, you will get roped up in all the bull shit. Don't white knight. Send her a cab or an uber. Her parents will blame YOU for HER stupidi…
/r/MGTOW12/01/21 03:35 PM
1

Truth
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 03:56 PM
1

Google is already doing that. DuckDuckgo is a little less intrusive.
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 03:53 PM
1

there will be some woman that will see this as a challenge to try to get you to fuck them so you break your vow to your "long distance girlfriend" That is more common than you think. Telling some women you are married or in an LTR is like waiving a red cape in front of a bull. God help you if you got your little kid(s) with you. It is creepy and not much fun to be eye fucked right in front of your entire family. Thank god my ex-missed it.
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 03:49 PM
1

Tell them your are a janitor next time. At least you know where you stand.
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 03:38 PM
1

Then you will get metoo'd with misconduct or rape charge. Better off "...haven't found the right girl..." then play dumb/dull when they try to flirt.
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 03:37 PM
1

Playing dumb plays well into the men don't get hints meme going around. Asking her to repeat herself will kill the mood too. "Sorry I missed that , could you repeat it?" Most women will fumble and not repeat themselves. Both gives them a face saving way out.
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 03:34 PM
2

Any of the above. Looking but no luck backs people off. Explain that you are shit with women and guys understand it. Unless some guy is trying to AMOG you or humiliate you, we leave the topic alone. Even chads have periods of long dry spells. Some women may try to help you out unfortunately but most will simply take it at face value and move on. Or you can lie and say you were in a an abusive relationship and are a lot skittish to go back. Divorced men, crazy ex GF. Don't say you are MGTOW, firs…
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 03:12 PM
1

Women operate that all men are potential attackers, harassers and rapists. Men, especially some MGTOW have a corollary statement every woman is a potential accuser (false or otherwise). How about adding the phrase: "Too many women".
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 02:59 PM
1

You can run your own server farms and there are other providers besides AWS and Azure. Cloud just provides scale with little up front cost, your own server farm front loads the costs of scaling up. In the long run both cost about the same.
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 02:55 PM
1

Cloud provides scale with little upfront cost. Running your server farm has a big upfront cost. In the end both end up cost about the same in the long run.
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 02:49 PM
1

While actually more dangerous than a twitter ban. But there are other financial arrangements that can be made to circumvent that. Cash, Money Order, Check, direct wire transfers, Harwala. You can obfuscate with shell companies, trade as etc... Some methods while dangerously close to money laundering can allow you to play cat and mouse with the SJW crowd. Money Laundering is illegal even if the source of your money is legal, the service and product is legal but potentially embarrassing and you ar…
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 02:44 PM
2

You can't patch stupid. People want convenience and ease of use. What I've seen of some work from home set would would shock you. That's the entry point for the hack.
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 02:31 PM
2

The biggest difference is in socialist economies someone else gets to decide how poor you get to be doing what ever they decide what job you need to be doing. The only difference between fascism and socialism is who signs on the dotted line for owner. Capitalism at least you have the chance of deciding your fate. You still have to compete and win.
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 02:19 PM
3

Whether you agree with what Trump did or not remember this: In WWII the Gestapo's number one got to group of informers were young women and teen girls. Number 2 were older women with personal grudges. Politics aside the mechanism is the same.
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 02:15 PM
6

Funny thing is your are probably right about that.
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 02:11 PM
14

There were more than a few women that wanted to kill the 16th amendment. Feminism and the vote was generally pushed by women further down the social order with a few uber elites joining in. 1) First, voting in those days meant you were eligible for the draft. No woman wants that. In WWI it became a mute point. Now once women were needed and stepped up to the call of working in munitions factories. Many did volunteer to work in those factories. Munitions factories at the turn of the 20th century …
/r/MGTOW08/01/21 08:16 PM
2

You ain't lying. I've been sexually harassed by such groups. People talk about frat boys and male athletes, they got nothing on a group of horny women on bender with no fear of consequences back home. The Secret Service aren't the only ones with the motto wheels up, rings off. Teachers and Nurses are pretty notorious away from the flag pole.
/r/MGTOW08/01/21 04:58 PM
1

The sweet spot is when you are growing, expanding even conquering and have enough jobs for your "elites" and wannabe elites. Population decline, plays havoc with our fractional reserve banking systems and retirement systems, leading to more economic shocks and periods of slow recovery. System shocks force everyone into survival mode, once the system re-stabilizes people compete fiercely for the remaining choice jobs. If the economy recovers quickly then it works out. If the recovery is too slow …
/r/MGTOW08/01/21 04:48 PM
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Some of the comments are from women posters were positively brutal. Ouch. No one slut shames like women. Ironically enough get them away from their social group and they all turn to sluts.
/r/MGTOW07/01/21 09:09 PM
2

Been married. No it is not about being more grown up or protecting your investment. It is about her having control over everything. She can take it all away at any time on a whim.
/r/MGTOW07/01/21 06:07 PM
1

Women drive that bus with the threat of divorce rape and you never seeing your kids.
/r/MGTOW07/01/21 06:05 PM
2

A wife converts you into a tool and source of income. Hobbies, interests and your own friendships outside of being married are discouraged. Childish and selfish they call it. Abuse I call it.
/r/MGTOW07/01/21 06:00 PM
1

Prostitution started to be criminalized in the US just before to appease church lady Karens. Accelerated with WWI to stop the spread of VD. Banning spread over time so that WWII it was completely banned in most of the US. Moral crusading, angry wives plus military necessity at the time pushed it.
/r/MGTOW07/01/21 05:57 PM
8

Civilization needs an expanding population and economy. People to work, consumers to buy shit. In the old days people fight over land to expand their economy and population. Today if your consumer base shrinks people don't consume and debts don't get paid. Banks and companies fail increasing the crisis. The economy resets at a lower level with a lot of disaffected people having a big drop in standard of living and status. Why is this a problem on top, Intra-Elite competition. You have to expand …
/r/MGTOW07/01/21 03:21 PM
1

Women are all the same. White Karens have been on top and have perfected this game. The accomplish the same thing without doing it directly. No rights for men, expect rights and lefts.
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 06:24 PM
2

If you get friend zoned, friend zone her back. How many guys here have friend zoned chick that are cool to hang with from time to time but not girlfriend material? More than a few of us. Friend zoning is a double edged sword. Turn her ass into your wingman.
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 06:20 PM
1

Grooming and seduction are the same actions in this case. The difference is, grooming is when an adult seduces a child. That's what it used to mean. What women are claiming here is not really grooming, it is a dumb ass 18-30 year old adult who spread her legs to a celebrity then regretting it. Or the relationship no longer benefits her, then she is out for what ever she can get. Women are moving the goal posts to go after men for revenge. Go monk gents if you can. If not, if she is too young lea…
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 06:13 PM
1

for example the surge in suicide after divorce, all of these men will be counted as death for unmarried men This needs to be a special category statistically. My ex wife nearly drove me to suicide.
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 05:52 PM
1

Sorry for your loss
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 05:51 PM
2

Truth
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 05:49 PM
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Outrage or not, the numbers will be even worse in the next 20 years.
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 05:49 PM
1

I believe this is just a social media gag/stunt for attention rather than a real attempt. That store did not look busy at all. Besides any guy that sees a sign like that would assume she is batshit crazy or it was a gag and run, she would know that. Any store would be like shooting fish in a barrel for just about any women looking for any guy above a SMV of 6 let alone a hardware or automotive store. All she had to do is just go when it is busy to improve availability. Walk up to any guy and ask…
/r/MGTOW05/01/21 08:29 PM
1

Sadly that is pretty close to the truth
/r/MGTOW05/01/21 07:53 PM
2

You did alright. You have the right to refuse shifts from a coworker. Now she may be stalking you to get dirt. Set your shit to private.
/r/MGTOW05/01/21 07:39 PM
1

You would be surprised how vindictive a Karen can be. Men further down the food chain have even less margin for error than someone at the top. It takes a Stormy Daniels type case or some other pretty egregious behavior to take someone out who is at the top. For you or I, all it takes is few tears in HR and a post on line. Boom out on your ass you go. For you or I, just being in the same space and being too friendly in conversation is enough to make a her uncomfortable. If she thought we were try…
/r/MGTOW05/01/21 07:30 PM
1

That cop's give zero f*cks is maxed out. You got lucky and I'm glad to hear you dodged a bullet
/r/MGTOW05/01/21 02:05 PM
2

The correct term is Jody
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 09:27 PM
1

Former enlisted. What you said.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 09:26 PM
2

Simple, no man wants to defend a matriarchy where they will get screwed over.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 09:19 PM
1

Briffault's law . Understand it Now you can use this behavior to your advantage. Don't offer her any real benefits and or hide your benefits and women won't bother you. Keep things short, polite, business like and move on.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 09:16 PM
2

Its usually worse than that. You only exist to pay for things and to do honey does. She'll pick fights for any reason and no reason at all to keep you under control, to deny you sex etc... The only thing you can do is walk away before the kids come. Once the kids are here, she owns you ass.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 09:10 PM
1

You nailed it
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 08:52 PM
3

White knighting is dangerous. The crazy bitch will likely pull a gun or knife on your ass and kill you for interfering. ​ Calling the cops is the only logical answer.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 08:47 PM
10

Karens are masters of this shit. They have learned from their mothers and honed their skills since the cradle to adulthood.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 08:43 PM
3

Word.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 08:43 PM
1

Mmmmm NO
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 07:50 PM
1

Yup
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 07:49 PM
1

I dodged 5 major bullets only to end up in a verbally abusive marriage. This was long before Red Pill/MGTOW was a thing though and a I missed a some major signs. Keeping those under wraps, OPSEC. Bullets dodged: 2 occasions I had minors (15 and 16 respectively) interested in me, kept trying to get my attention. Ignored and avoided as best I could. Hint to the wise: Yes this shit does happen at random and it's scary as F*CK. Another was a an 18 year old with a thing for older men and lots of jeal…
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 06:45 PM
1

Keys words: Video evidence required. Often there is no video evidence. Women know that so off to jail you go at best. AT worst it's a wood shampoo and off to jail you go. Even with video, it depends on who she is vs who you are. Look at Johnny Depp vs Amber Heard, he avoided jail but still lost chunks of his career. Some upper middle class Karen will choke you with that video tape unless she has made a lot of female enemies. Men's shelter are very rare nation wide. The only sane option a man has…
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 05:58 PM
2

Because it is not about protecting the abused, its about protecting women who are abused and as a means of women projecting power over men by using the police as their personal hit squad.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 05:48 PM
1

Leaving this alone
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 05:44 PM
1

Work on building the best he can be for his own sake. Make friends and enjoy life as best he can. Avoid girls/women when ever possible. Women are either competition, maybe useful allies or neutral. They can burn you with a few tears and carefully chosen words.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 05:41 PM
1

Society will always work to protect women. A 59 year old banging a 14 year old boy is pretty egregious behavior. She will get some punishment but no where near a what a 59 year old man would.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 05:35 PM
2

Men support women and children, not the other way around. A man in need of support is at best useless. It is justification to cut him out of her and the children's lives. If he gets support from his friend and his family, he is dangerous. That is why every men's and boy's organization has been infiltrated, neutered or destroyed. Deliberately done to cut off men from access to support and power.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 05:32 PM
1

When you set yourself up as competition, expect men to be warry of you ladies. You don't fuck your competition, you crush it. When you use men as ATM machines and labor devices, expect men to withdraw and be warry of you ladies.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 05:29 PM
4

Prostitutes are a stop gap. Problem with hookers is they can METoo you too, aka Stormy Daniels. Unlike Trump you won't escape HR Karen's backlash when word gets out. You female co-workers will not feel comfortable working with you.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 05:26 PM
2

Once you make the mistake of getting married, you have little choice. If you kids have special needs of any kind you are stuck. She may be getting value without paying for it as you say. But taking sex off the table takes away a lot of her leverage over you so you can get off the hamster wheel and tell her NO for other shit. Wives can metoo you ass in family court too. It's much harder for her to claim coercion and harassment if you aren't trying to have sex.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 02:17 PM
2

Can't use real bullets with a shephard sling. Rocks from drainage ditches, wadhis, rocky beaches that have been smother over shaped by nature or make your own out of clay. Some crazy fuckers melt their own lead, lead is toxic AF.
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 10:45 PM
2

That is true for men and women. Back in the day if a woman misbehaved should would be held to account by her nearest male relative. If she wasn't corrected that male relative would answer for it in duel or vendetta if law enforcement was weak. If law courts are strong, the husband could be held responsible for her behavior that way. Some cultures allowed women to duel or allowed her to hire a champion. Should her champion lose she would be declared an outlaw (outside the protection of the law an…
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 06:35 PM
2

Its fun but hard as fuck. There is no gun sight on a piece of string, it is all instinctive shooting. The only people who are legitimately good at it grew up with the weapon. I am no where near good but I can consistently get a rock down range in the general direction I want it. There is a reason it was replaced by the bow even if it was more effective, juts ask the Romans. Consistent ammo is key. Consistent weight and relatively round or football (rugby or American football) shape are prioritie…
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 06:01 PM
2

It is a case by case business. I've definitely had more opportunities and attention after 30 when I started doing more self improvement and less chasing. How much money you earn, how you dress, general level of fitness, social skills, life experience hobbies and interests etc... will affect things greatly. Most of those women will be 28-40 range looking to get wifed up or someone's wife/GF looking for some side dick. Most girls under 25 will label you a creep if you approach them. You will find …
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 05:15 PM
2

Truth bomb
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 03:50 PM
3

THIS is true
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 03:47 PM
1

Sadly not so far from the truth.
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 03:45 PM
2

Do not get pushed into dating or marriage if you do not want it. Tell them to back the hell off. Tell them how shitty your partners have been to you, why would wan to marry that. Tell them those shitty partners at least did you the kindness of being shitty before you married her. Ask them why do you wan to risk marrying someone who was simply better at hiding it. Tell your parents they are the grand parents from the father's side, they will rarely see their grand children before the divorce and …
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 03:43 PM
1

He's probably more concerned about all the money he's going to lose in a divorce, and that he won't get to see his kids, then her actually leaving. He should be glad, even if he'll lose so much. At least he can have some piece and quiet for a change. This is the reality of a divorce.
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 03:30 PM
2

THIS.
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 03:27 PM
2

The people who rise to the top of this pile will be military veterans between the ages of 20-40, former police and gangs. For the rest of us if our skills are still valued we might get a place at the table if you can earn their respect. A veteran former ground pounder/scout. I'm too old to be that useful in a fight but I can still train people.
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 03:26 PM
5

Can you blame him. That's a lot of useless baggage that makes him a target. Also the original Mad Max is a widower who's wife died young before she turned into a harpie.
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 03:21 PM
5

Arrows work too. So do sling bullets. Been practicing with a shepherd's sling for fun for a about 5 months now. Odd are she will simply be thrown out of camp, exile is a slow death sentence.
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 03:19 PM
3

Pretty much sums up my marriage at the time. The only way to take back some control is to turn off the sex yourself. If she offers turn her down gently if you can, stop initiating. No hugs or holding hands. You are basically room mates at this point. Focus on your kids, hobbies and improving yourself. Her honey does come after that. Once sex is off the table, telling her no or to check her bullshit becomes a lot easier. You have taken away her most powerful tool to control and destroy you.
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 03:16 PM
2

It's because the smarter Karen's do their abusing behind closed doors to keep up their good PR.
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 02:57 PM
5

They ALSO "curve" the guys that are "too handsome" and masculine too Because they can't have or controls guys like that.
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 02:52 PM
6

She wants the attention after a year or two of marriage, it will be all about the money.
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 02:36 PM
1

As long as you have allies you can get away with a lot, there are limits and you have to know what those are.
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 02:19 PM
1

Just get them 50 miles outside of town.
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 02:17 PM
2

Power that is never shared and benefits too few leads to resentment then abandonment or revolt. That's why these guys are vulnerable. Power may come from the barrel of a gun, but someone has to pull that trigger.
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 02:07 PM
1

Until you marry her.
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 10:02 PM
2

Social power trump physical power in the long run even if you are dead.
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 10:01 PM
2

truth bomb
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 09:58 PM
2

Its not about justice, cancel culture is a weapon of control, not justice. Even some liberals see the problems with cancel culture, they just can't do anything about it. Louic CK, is just another casualty in the intra-elite competition for choice spots in society in a zero sum game. Cancel culture assholes will never let him back in, his slot has been filled already.
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 09:50 PM
3

Most of that status is unearned and his power a toothless tiger. Depp made some great movies made a lot of money (which he spent most of it). But he did not invent anything, explore and conquer new frontiers or defend his country. What allies does he have? None have stuck by him. Heard was right no one would care or believe him. Status and power without an army and allies to back you makes a target.
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 09:46 PM
4

Welcome to zero sum society. Cancel culture is about political and economic control by eliminating the competition.
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 09:40 PM
8

She taunted him saying no one would believe him and no one would care. Sadly she was absolutely right
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 09:38 PM
1

Good for them.
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 09:35 PM
2

they are
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 09:30 PM
1

A system with a 99% conviction rate is beyond broken.
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 09:29 PM
1

Conference attendees are another. There are some pretty female heavy professions that have large conferences. Yes, women are as bed as men when away from the flag pole and their social circle where they have to keep up appearances.
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 08:16 PM
2

Have you ever been with a cougar school teacher? Holy shit my ex-gf could give a porn actresses more than a run. Even free use banged her in ass while she was making scrambled eggs once. She had a body that put girls half her age to shame. Get a woman away from her normal social circle and you will meet "the whore" in all women.
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 08:12 PM
1

And his complaint will get ignored.
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 08:05 PM
1

Gents a good way to go on the offensive is to start male only clubs and associations. Volunteer in activities where men and boys generally benefit. Get involved in local political activities that benefit you and or your kids. The goal is to get a seat at the table to set a candidates or organization's agenda. Basically out Karen, the Karens' and their girl brigades who have a lock on school/church volunteer organizations. The are doing the same in the democratic party in the US. They don't do it…
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 08:01 PM
1

You can't with out joining a military first. Those skill sets are hard to come by and there is a certain amount of risk. Even in peace time it there is a lot of wear and tear on the body. Mercenaries are considered war criminals. Penalty is death BTW. You can blur the lines by being in a supporting role (logistics, training, personal security, commo/IT etc...). While support contractors are technically not mercenaries and war criminals, the lines are blurry and it can go the other way. You can b…
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 07:41 PM
2

" The top 1 percent of men, who have it all. The next 99 percent are "illogical incels" or her last options after they are old and used. If Christian Grey has 100s of women in his harem, she will still stay with him, because he is wanted by other women. As we all know the preselection theory. " That is all fine and dandy until "MeToo" became a thing. She will eventually turn on Christian Grey and cash in when he is older, not so attractive and his other enemies start looking for dirt.
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 07:20 PM
1

The fact that he rushed in means she no longer controls him as a beta even if she manipulated and goaded him into it. Once blooded, he is now a danger to her as a beta. If he gets arrested, injured or killed he is now a useless beta. If she was harassed, he is now no longer alpha. No one would dare harass the alpha's woman or test her status. Alpha status should have been clear to all, no one would dare challenge it. If she got harassed or if she started the harassment and the victim didn't imme…
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 07:03 PM
1

I love money, is hostile in that anything a man says can be twisted as hostile. Its a business and people have jobs to get what? Money. Let her sue.
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 06:40 PM
1

Good response
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 06:38 PM
1

A man can expect no help at all if groped or sexually harassed. If anything you will be assumed to be the aggressor. At best everyone will think it funny. Was sexually harassed/pressured hard on 4 separate occasions, with 4 different women. They were either encouraged cheered on or I was ignored or I was told, I'm a big boy handle it. It takes some deft tap dancing to extricate yourself from this without escalating to using force. Women don't like being told no either. I was able to without gett…
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 06:35 PM
2

Correct, it is not unintended. It is policy as a system of control in a zero sum society. How best to remove powerful and not so powerful men from competition for jobs and economic resources? You can't kill someone without an investigation, accusing someone of sexual scandal has been used for ages. How best to remind those at the bottom that no one cares about them. Sexual assault.
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 06:15 PM
3

AWALT. Men who constantly rush to a woman's defense are little more than a tools to be discarded when no longer useful.
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 05:58 PM
2

With an instant MeToo accusation, unlikely, except for a few fools with nothing to lose. Women will go nuts for sure, men would have to be stupid.
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 04:39 PM
5

So this. Young women eventually want babies. Young women are also over protected so the second anything goes south, you old ass is grass.
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 04:37 PM
1

Truth
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 08:58 PM
2

Socialism is just a bronze age palace redistribution economy for the modern age. About with the same levels of corruption. Capitalism at least allows you to take your shot. No other economic system allows that unless you become a party favorite.
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 08:50 PM
2

Truth bomb
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 08:47 PM
1

Its sound advice, chasing the cat is how you get tired, broke and catch a harassment charge. With attracting the cat you may still have enough energy and money to fight off a harassment charge. If you know what attracts the cat, you stop doing that shit to avoid the cat.
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 08:46 PM
2

Stick to bike/running paths, it's less of an issue. Everyone is on the move walking, running or biking so there is less chance for interaction. Go at odd times, women don't like dawn and dusk because they are too dangerous. Women are easy to avoid.
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 06:35 PM
4

And people think only Nice guys don't like being friend zoned. Friend zone a woman some time.
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 06:25 PM
2

A legit smoke show would make me leave the building unless I had legitimate business in that establishment. Even then if I had legit business, I would go down different store isles etc to keep as many obstacles and as much distance between me and her. If that is not possible I will keep my back to her and gaze elsewhere. I'm old and short that makes me automatically creepy. It is all to easy to rolled up on some shit (police white knights etc...) because I gave her the creeps by just being in th…
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 06:07 PM
1

Have for years
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 05:50 PM
6

Even they are vulnerable.
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 05:48 PM
2

If you are or were married you may be fucked. It all depends on your ex post facto protections. Under current standards all sex if rape. Even if you stop having sex, what you before the law was passed should not qualify. How ever, laws can be written in a way that gets around it by redefining consent and coercion then burning you that way. If they are just going use social media then all legal protections are a mute point.
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 05:48 PM
4

She can claim coercion and duress to null and void any interaction. Since feminists and others have made micro aggression a thing, anything can be a treat or coercion. So she cannot effectively give consent simply because you are bigger and stronger or have more money than her. Assume all sex is rape even if she demanding it from you and you will be ok. Mostly.
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 04:05 PM
3

Yes means no. Anything can be coercion and there is no such thing as consent. All sex is rape boys even if she is demanding sex. I've been operating under that assumption for the more than a few years now.
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 04:00 PM
5

Women want to be CEOs and bosses, but when times get rough it will be the plumbers, farmers, construction workers, ect, that will still have jobs and all of these pointless office jobs and pretend positions of power will crumble. A Queen without an army is just an idiot in a fancy dress wearing a fancy hat.
/r/MGTOW17/12/20 11:03 PM
4

​ None of these male or female narcissists make good leaders. People who seek power are looking for the privilege of nobility without the responsibility/risk that nobility once had. Without a group to back them they are just idiots in a fancy suit. Leaders lead for the benefit of the group, if they fail they get replaced, even killed. Let women take on that risk. Leadership is not a reward, it is a pain in the ass. Leaders have to benefit and reward their followers. If you are not benefiting fro…
/r/MGTOW17/12/20 10:57 PM
5

It is beginning to happen. The term "Karen" has hit the main stream. The strangle hold of the white soccer mom on politics is loosening. Even Biden had to select as a running mate a woman of mix race for VP or he would have lost the black vote as many would have stayed home.
/r/MGTOW17/12/20 10:42 PM
5

Agreed.
/r/MGTOW17/12/20 10:41 PM
2

Why are you approaching women??? Of course they are going to look at you like that, they don't know you from Adam. PUA cold approaches didn't work very well pre-MeToo with a 1-3% chance of getting a more than a 3-minute conversation level of success. Under today's rules a cold approach makes you guilty of (serial) sexual misconduct for just trying to talk to her. The only reason to approach a woman is for business or it's a job requirement. If a woman approaches you, assume its for business or j…
/r/MGTOW17/12/20 08:04 PM
1

Smart man, even being a gigga Chad will not protect you. It makes you vulnerable simply due to the numbers. He gets so many opportunities that eventually you will end up in a situation that goes south. Remember sexual misconduct is anything you do that makes her feel uncomfortable.
/r/MGTOW17/12/20 07:37 PM
2

It made evolutionary sense. Wombs are valuable especially when child birth was way deadlier than today. That's why women shriek for help and men rush in. What galls me more is women volunteering their guy to white knight for them, then claiming I'm a privileged white male or some other POS, all the while claiming to be equal. My ex on one occasion had me white knight for some chick getting hassled at a train station by some dude a good 6-8 inches taller than me. Fortunately for me, I kept my coo…
/r/MGTOW17/12/20 05:18 PM
1

Boys are disposable, they lose they protection as children between 9-12.
/r/MGTOW17/12/20 04:44 PM
3

Then people discovered there was a lot of money in video games and women wanted in on that action. Same thing in the IT industry. God know we cannot have place to make money and just be.
/r/MGTOW17/12/20 04:35 PM
2

FDS to their credit are up front about it. If you ask a bunch of white women out there they will lie to your face about it. Depp/Heard situation is exactly how women want it. Women want the benefits of equality and feminism with the protections of the old patriarchy with none of the responsibility or accountability.
/r/MGTOW17/12/20 04:22 PM
1

Which is why I advise all men to not give women the ammo she's need to shoot you with. They will always play this card. You can have evidence, she will still make up stories for the times you weren't recording.
/r/MGTOW17/12/20 04:15 PM
10

People forget one thing, honor and winning in battle were your justifications for your privileged position in society back then. These were also re-distributive palace economies. Not in a theoretical Marxist kind of way, more like how communist regimes worked in practice. Take from the producers, skim my cut, then decide how much the rest of you get. These were warrior nobles hacking it out. The winners got to decide who got what and how much then who fucked whom etc... Not defending your honor …
/r/MGTOW16/12/20 03:42 PM
1

Maybe if she is not drinking through a straw. Vandy is in the SEC. The SEC is down this year, but teams like LSU, Georgia are no joke. SEC has speed and size. Someone needs to talks sense into this girl and the administration. There will be a play where she is the last man to make a tackle and somebody will pancake block her ass.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 11:35 PM
1

She's a field goal kicker and not a very good one at that. Funny thing is, if there is a muffed kick and fumble someone will pancake block her ass right into the ground. Perfectly legal if hit the right spot. Well worth penalty for unnecessary roughness. If she actually has to do kick offs, she had better pray the return man gets tackled early because if he breaks one long she is fair game to get crushed. Even weak SEC teams are no joke when it comes to size and speed. Alabama or one of the othe…
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 11:29 PM
2

How do you get conned or manipulated in to a relationship? LeBoeuf, is a well know actor. Quick google search and she would have known he was married. Hell, most of the time women women the actual initiators by hanging around, trying to get your attention, flirting with you to get you to make the "first" move etc.... That's if they don't flat out ask you to fuck. Sex is a two way street.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 11:07 PM
2

True.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 10:52 PM
1

I concur. Seen it with my own eyes.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 10:51 PM
2

Truth. I live in a neighborhood full of Karen's and Becky's./ There are no more dangerous creatures than a white woman to any man because they can call in the wrath of White Knights, Cops and HR on you ass all will appearing as weak victims.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 10:50 PM
1

No the worse are privileged white women hands down. They are experts at working behind the scenes and getting in your face when they no one will touch them. The bulk of feminists were white women.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 10:47 PM
2

I'm all for lampooning Karen's, Becky's and their fantasies
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 10:39 PM
2

Society's programing is strong. TRP's core tenant is you can be so alpha she won;t want to leave and you can avoid most of the consequences of being in a relationship. Unfortunately you cannot avoid the consequences. That family court judge doesn't care how well you hold frame. Spinning plates just leads you to a MeToo situation.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 10:37 PM
1

The biggest area I believe it could have an impact is in the economy, if young men worked hard, invested as much as they can, learn to live well below their means, and then retire early. That amount of lost productivity is bound to have a heavy negative effect, as well as all that money not being syphoned off to women to spend back in, I could see financial issues plaguing governments more so than now.. Or it kicks off a deflationary spiral. Our whole banking system is built on growth and inflat…
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 10:30 PM
3

The did. when a man thinks with his lower brain he fucks himself.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 10:15 PM
3

Eliminate competition and gives the ex-wife a good way to destroy a man.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 10:12 PM
10

In a he said she said. Against a pretty white woman, gents you lose. If her status is any where close to yours or higher you lose. It will not matter that you have video evidence if live with her or have frequent un-escorted contact. Videos are snapshots in time and obviously do not cover you 24/7/365. She can make claims about any other times that you didn't record it. About your only hope is that she has pissed off too many other women that they throw their weight behind you. And you are still…
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 09:49 PM
3

Unrest is what will happen and men will have no incentive to play nice.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 05:05 PM
1

Status displays to show off our excess earning capacity. If a guy enjoys his sports car because its fun to drive (away from any city of course) so let him enjoy it not because it impresses people. Big houses used to be fortified manors and a castles of noble warrior elites. Back when nobles actually did their own fighting, you needed a big enough place to house your men, equipment and support staff. After kings and centralized governments discovered artillery they also made private armies and ca…
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 04:53 PM
2

Powerful political benefactors with a social engineering agenda. Military is how poorer men get ahead (clearance, technical skills, GI Bill) and the unlucky get a second chance at life. Feminists needed cut off that source of competition.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 04:45 PM
1

People loved baby yodda. In any case the show is a bit repetitive in its formula. Now it is a spaghetti western in space.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 04:35 PM
1

right down to the music
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 04:33 PM
1

This. An effective female infantry grunt would not be some waifu female .
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 04:33 PM
1

White knights are tools. White knights are a fire and forget missile system, smart enough to hit the target, not smart enough to know they are being used. For the rest of us. This is how women wield power, they get fools to do their dirty work. It re-enforces her status and minimizes her risk.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 04:23 PM
1

They need the attention. Attention = status, protection and resources with minimal risk.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 04:18 PM
2

They still get horny and enjoy sex with guys they find hawt. Otherwise they are looking for an ATM machine and handy man.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 04:16 PM
1

Kids are damned cute at that age I can understand the attachment. It sucks for the kid, but it is not your kid. You were never married to her so there is nothing you can do for the kid anyway. Problem is her red flags are going to continue to pop up. You need her out of your life. Call social services if she is addicted to pain meds and kratom maybe they can help the kid. Stop white knighting
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 04:11 PM
3

Winner. That's why feminists are mostly average and uglier girls or came from working class/college educated class back grounds. Jokes on them. In their rush they have set themselves up as competition to men in the economy as well.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 04:02 PM
1

Feminism started so regular women could enjoy the privileges previously enjoyed by elite rich women and what they perceived were privileges enjoyed by all men, so they didn't have to marry so poor slob. What these feminist women discovered was competition is brutal and no one cares about them.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 03:57 PM
1

Glad to hear it
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 01:56 PM
1

I notice they kept her name secret. If it were a male perp, it would be all over the news
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 08:51 PM
1

Let FDS have their standards. Let the idiots who chase them and marry them fall on that grenade. We'll get left alone.
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 08:47 PM
1

Let him fall on that grenade
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 08:46 PM
6

Premarital sex seems to be non existent here, but we see so much material about married women who cheat on their husbands, so I don't think it's non existent. There is no smoke without a fire as they say. Were there is smoke, there is most certainly fire. Cheating is rampant in any culture. The surest way to ensure that there is no extra-marital or premarital sex is social pressure from other women to cut off sexual competition. Once away from that pressure women slut it up. .
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 08:37 PM
4

Truth
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 08:27 PM
3

If you never want to have sex again, get married. see /r/deadbedrooms Never ever marry for sex, because she will turn off your access and claim you tried to rape her. Even if marry for the "right reasons" she will turn off the sex to control you. In "traditional societies", if she comes from a family with a large number of male relatives you will answer to them. The consequences for you cheating may be high as well. If you get caught you have not only insulted her but insulted her whole family. …
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 08:22 PM
1

Cash and wealth are two very different things. Cash is only valuable because I can exchange it for something else. It's only value is as a medium of exchange past, present and future. Real wealth is the goods and services I can buy or the capital than can be used to generate those goods and services. Cash is also useful as a unit of measuring wealth but it is not wealth.
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 05:13 PM
1

Trade is not zero sum because you are exchanging value for value. Civilized Society can be very zero sum. There are only so many jobs, products and services in a given society. That's why when you just printing money without a corresponding increase in the actual amount of products and services to buy you get high inflation. There is only so much available to buy. There are only so many positions in a society that have status and power. So even in a socialist/communist/fascist non-market societi…
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 05:06 PM
2

That is the biggest reason. I've seen plenty of cringe be damned few sexual assaults.
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 04:51 PM
8

A veneer was enough to keep things running as long as polygamy was relatively rare. Any type of poly on large scale will lead to larger numbers of men not committing to society, immigrating, infighting, revolting or going out to conquer new lands (war). There is simply no incentive to stay, work, fight and die for a poly society unless you are at the top of that socio-sexual pyramid.
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 04:45 PM
2

polygamy relationshits are rare because it leads to very unstable societies.
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 04:37 PM
24

MeToo accusation. Women can be vindictive as hell when they don't get what they want. By simply banging her you have given her the rope to hang you with. Just your larger stronger presence can be considered coercion. During a sexual encounter, she can withdraw her consent at any time. She doesn't have to inform you of the withdrawal of consent because of how you might react. Crazy feminazis have been trying to tighten up what they consider loopholes in the definitions of rape, sexual assault, se…
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 04:30 PM
2

It's a ambush, get out of the kill box now. That's my go to line. Anyway be more formal in the language you use around women in general. That will cut down the attempts. It takes two to flirt. Formality will put up a barrier. Play dumb and ask for clarification. Was this text meant for me....? Sorry... I missed that.....say again? Sorry...I'm confused.....Did you mean to say that...? Or sorry...I'm confused....please explain. If you give a girl/woman a face saving way of backing out, they will g…
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 03:53 PM
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Don't rape obviously. Check your behavior for obvious creepy shit. Stop doing that. Go monk mode. Limit your contact with women and keep your distance. If she is on one side of the street, cross to the other side. Go down a different store isle than the one she is using. etc... Try not look at her, she is just someone in your field of view. Focus on your task at hand. Being a former Cav scout, I scan my "zone" a lot, I simply process her as threat no then threat charlie mike (continue mission). …
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 03:35 PM
2

At 23 you are young, you can still rebuild your life. Finish up your education or trade. Learn to live for you, not your parents. If therapy is available, get some. Once you are on your feet a bit and money, get some hobbies you enjoy, work on self improvement. Do not skip working out or doing martial arts. Join male social clubs. Shit like that. If you can leave your wife do so. Document and record any abuse. Don't try to have sex with her unless she initiates and is adamant about it. Harassmen…
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 03:07 PM
1

True
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 02:57 PM
18

It makes little sense to simply bang a woman, let alone date one. Marriage really......
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 02:55 PM
6

Risk,status, power and control. Women are risk averse generally, so as group they only jump in when men have borne most of the risk. They join in to gain status, power and control over men. Men with a separate power, status hierarchy that women have little say is dangerous to them.
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 02:53 PM
1

Supply and demand is one thing. Whether to take advantage of it is another. Morality is just a religious justification for you shouldn't do something because there will be negative consequences too you. Pumping and dumping college educated Karens is dangerous, it was dangerous 30 years ago, it's dangerous today, it will be even worse tomorrow. It's a good way to end-up an economically ineligible male. Intra-elite competition is going to get even more brutal over coming years. Men and women are a…
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 02:47 PM
1

He clammed up and got a lawyer. He beat the wrap and forced the cops to look elsewhere. The copper dug a bit deeper into the woman's story, she confess to the making it up to cover up her affair. Lesson. It can happen to anyone out of the blue. Going monk and documenting it you at least have a fighting chance. When dealing with this accusation clam up and lawyer up. Let the professional mouth pieces deal with the cops. With social media you will need a PR team as well along with your own investi…
/r/MGTOW10/12/20 10:34 PM
7

Boys be strong out there. There is no sense in becoming someone's ATM machine. She will still be banging chad. Promiscuity is nothing new, women are promiscuous with chad and prudes with beta bux. Nothing new. Secondly, watch for a new round of #MeToo to take off soon. The feminazis will find a way to make this all seem like coercion and rape. Metoo is a the perfect way of eliminating a competitor or someone in a organization who is too powerful or valuable or hard to replace. Especially if you …
/r/MGTOW10/12/20 10:22 PM
3

This may appear to be a good thing but it is not. She is still hunting for BetaBux. The feminazis will reclassify this as coercion and charge you with rape after you are no longer needed, to get a leg up on her competition in the job market etc... Your male competition will do the same too. For many organizations MeToo is a perfect opportunity to get rid of someone without much due process, bypassing contracts, denying you unemployment which keeps their premiums down. It's a ruthless way to cut …
/r/MGTOW10/12/20 09:24 PM
3

Not being creepy and going monk only fixes a significant part of the problem. There is still an outlier chance of being falsy accused at random. It happened to my cousin, the cops put so much pressure on him he almost confessed to crime he did not commit. Fortunately he realized what was happening, clammed up call for a lawyer. It turns out a woman he had never met made a false accusation of rape to cover up an affair. He fit the general description and got called in for a line up. She picked hi…
/r/MGTOW10/12/20 09:04 PM
1

True
/r/MGTOW10/12/20 08:59 PM
6

The poster is correct, 95-99% of your problem goes away by going monk. Going monk respects her boundaries quite nicely, she can damn well respect mine. That does leave a risk of being singled out for accusations for a variety of reasons. You had an altercation over something non-sexual and she is paying yo back: politics, work, asking her to leash her dog, a parking spot etc... then she goes full Karen on you. Simple mistaken identity, you simply look like the guy she boned when she was drunk an…
/r/MGTOW10/12/20 08:57 PM
1

In order to put someone in check you have to organize or you will get put in check by the better organized groups.
/r/MGTOW10/12/20 08:42 PM
1

It's where bonds are formed. Advocating for "revolution" is counter productive. Building support groups aka voting and volunteer blocs (to throw at political candidates you favor)
/r/MGTOW10/12/20 05:25 PM
1

We are getting boned because we are not organized. Men's groups, clubs, spaces have been invaded, infiltrated or systematically shut down.
/r/MGTOW10/12/20 03:17 PM
1

Just another leach
/r/MGTOW09/12/20 05:01 PM
2

No, prices rise to the level of income, aka inflation. After a while you end up where you started Also too many elites equals more competition for the jobs that really matter (those that have meaningful power). We are seeing it now.
/r/MGTOW09/12/20 04:54 PM
1

Go monk, that will cut bank on 95% of the BS. There is still a 5% chance you will get accused by some random you never met but you got to start somewhere. BTW my cousin got accused of rape by a woman trying to cover up her affair. My cousin was a completely random guy who kind of fit the description of her boy friend. He never met the woman. Police were trying to get him to confess to crime he did not commit when he clammed up and asked for a lawyer. Due to white privilege, he was able to get hi…
/r/MGTOW09/12/20 04:40 PM
1

Holy shit, that worse than Franco or Salazar. People hated the secret police, but this is out in the open and no one is saying shit. WOW.
/r/MGTOW09/12/20 04:29 PM
2

Let it flop
/r/MGTOW09/12/20 04:24 PM
1

Stop advocating 2nd amendment as a code word for revolution.. It will get us labeled a terrorist. ACW2, will not be fought against the government but for control of the government and economy. Neighbor against neighbor. It's not something that should be encouraged. Besides going 2nd amendment will just bring down the police and military on you after you have been isolated and painted as a lunatic. That tactics the lefties are primarily using is cancel culture in various forms: #MeToo, and the sl…
/r/MGTOW09/12/20 04:20 PM
2

Wise words.
/r/MGTOW09/12/20 03:43 PM
3

can't have both
/r/MGTOW09/12/20 03:30 PM
2

My question is how many abused women get elected to congress? Politicians and other powerful people (male or female) are kind of people that are usually the abusers not the ones being abused. Also as we all know, abuse allegations in a divorce are SOP. She's just mad she got caught in the #MeToo gotcha machine with actual evidence.
/r/MGTOW09/12/20 03:28 PM
5

This needs to be a core tenant of MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW09/12/20 03:20 PM
5

Holding a woman accountable for her actions = you have stepped out of the woman's frame of mind, and into objective reality = she feels spurned because she no longer controls you like a puppet. Truth
/r/MGTOW09/12/20 03:20 PM
1

The only happy people are single men when they have rebuilt themselves after a divorce raping
/r/MGTOW09/12/20 03:18 PM
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Women change the rules to what ever it suits them, even retroactively. ​ Go monk
/r/MGTOW09/12/20 03:14 PM
3

Avoid contact if possible. If you cannot avoid contact, keep all interactions,friendly, polite and civil. Keep things short and focused on what you need done. I tend to use ma'am a lot (young or old, pretty or not), it de-sexualizes her right on the spot. I have a slight drawl so she just assumes its a southern thing. If it pisses her off the more I call her ma'am. Keep your distance. Do not be alone with her, except to do work. Focus on the work, record if possible. Engage in small top only eno…
/r/MGTOW07/12/20 07:38 PM
16

Those marriages were already dead. Covid just put the nail in the coffin
/r/MGTOW07/12/20 05:35 PM
1

Sorry for your loss brother
/r/MGTOW07/12/20 04:09 PM
3

Don't give her the ammunition to shoot you with. Go Monk. Develop some social skills, it will make you less of a target. If you can't go monk, at least be more selective of who you fuck and slow shit down. Make her wait and work for the D a bit even for a ONS. The time will be spent to make sure she isn't some psycho. Be clear what yours and her intentions are: ONS, FWB, affair partner if they don't match up walk.
/r/MGTOW05/12/20 05:29 PM
1

The protect women instinct is ingrained pretty deeply in men. The higher the woman's status or the cuter she is the stronger it's effects
/r/MGTOW05/12/20 05:21 PM
3

So true Relationships between men and women aren't chases, they are collisions. If have to chase you are strictly beta bux at best. A stalker at worst.
/r/MGTOW05/12/20 04:58 PM
1

The language of the law may be gender neutral. From the tone of the article it will not be enforced that way.
/r/MGTOW05/12/20 04:52 PM
2

social power play
/r/MGTOW05/12/20 04:33 PM
3

True If gender was reversed she would leave is heart beat.
/r/MGTOW05/12/20 04:31 PM
3

18 - 24 y.o. bracket. You mean 18-55+ bracket. Everything else you say is correct. Unless there is a medical/mental condition, women like to fuck. They just hide that fact from their beta bux hubbies. My craziest lay was a 50 year old cougar school teacher. I learned school teachers and nurses are some serious freaks.
/r/MGTOW05/12/20 04:30 PM
1

Also if an engineer discovers he can also sell the product, holy shit watch out, a cat like that will end up on a rocket ride to the top. Engineers who can sell are worth a mint.
/r/MGTOW05/12/20 04:07 PM
4

Every thing is about GTM Get That Money. STEM and study hard is not a scam it is a lower risk lower reward strategy. Not everyone can do sales, even people with supposedly awesome social skills and good looks. All sales is a brutal numbers driven business. Make you numbers or your ass is gone. Not everyone can do it. Sales managers are the worst. You have to have a product, know it and how it fits in their business operations and solves their problem, you cannot bullshit that. This is where a sa…
/r/MGTOW05/12/20 04:01 PM
1

Came to say this
/r/MGTOW05/12/20 03:41 PM
6

Its a good list. To counter most of these attacks. 1) Realize women are now competition. You are not competing with men over her, she is just another competitor on the social climbing ladder. 2) Don't give her ammunition. Learn some social skills, how to steer a conversation, how to bow out gracefully. Keep your dick in your pants. Sure she can still lie and gossip about you. But to be truly effective the accusations have to have some kernel of truth to them. All those big wigs that got taken do…
/r/MGTOW05/12/20 03:39 PM
6

Unfortunately there are no consequences for women when they use that gun, so they use it a lot. Yes all women are like that.
/r/MGTOW05/12/20 02:45 PM
6

You need to gather dirt/leverage on this bitch. Something that can make her back off. People who play these kind of games are never fully clean, there is dirt somewhere, find it, document it and use it. A friend of mine was able to get custody of his girls by proving mom was unfit, mom violated the custody agreement by moving to another county an hour away, was smoking dope,her boyfriend was in and out of jail kid were late to school etc... Where is she getting the money for all these legal chal…
/r/MGTOW05/12/20 02:41 PM
1

Just read the story of Potiphar's wife, AWALT. Problem now that kind of privilege now extends well down into the middle and lower classes. The old school rules made sense because they reduced ambiguity and conflict. For the modern era I've adopted certain behaviors that keep out of metoo cross hairs. For example, when being sociable, I tend to use the term ma'am a lot, not in an obsequious tone either. Friendly at first as long as she keeps it that way. Ma'am or madam, Ms. completely de-sexualiz…
/r/MGTOW04/12/20 05:29 PM
2

Marriage was a control mechanism invented to keep as many men in line as possible. The reward was getting your own woman to have sex with and have children, status etc.... Women can rightfully complain that old school marriage was a one way street but women rarely ever had to directly face the full force of competition in society. It was designed to ensure social stability and give men a stake in that society. It worked for a long while, today the marriage script has been completely flipped. Wom…
/r/MGTOW04/12/20 03:49 PM
1

If the I have to prove I didn't do it, then pistols at dawn then!!! lol Maybe Arkansas toothpicks at dawn for a more interesting spectacle. The biggest problem we have is women want to the rights of being equal with the protections and privileges of what was only normally afforded to upper class and noble women with no down side. A woman like that can destroy your life with a story that no one can challenge and she faces the consequences. That is a lot of unbridled power to give anyone. The only…
/r/MGTOW04/12/20 03:05 PM
1

Women volunteers are the life blood of churches. Most are stay at home moms. They run every committee, educational and community outreach program run by a church. If they don't want it to happen, it will not. The preacher is just a figure head, he knows damned well if the ladies want him out, he is out on his ass. These women's volunteer organizations became the back channel to power when unions were effectively killed off in the 1980s.
/r/MGTOW03/12/20 11:00 PM
1

Red pill knowledge was out there in fits and spurts. You could get away with sliding that shit through back then, today not so much.
/r/MGTOW03/12/20 10:30 PM
4

What guys would love and what they actually get are two very different things. I went to college 30+ years ago, except for the internet and social media not much has really changed. Chads slayed pussy, beta-boys got slammed if they tried to join in on the fun. The only difference then if you were a top recruit or daddy was a major donor/alumni you were protected somewhat with some good lawyers blocking for you. The average joe without the money and lawyers could get expelled for less. All it wou…
/r/MGTOW03/12/20 10:16 PM
2

Your parents failed you badly. Glad you made it to the other side man.
/r/MGTOW03/12/20 10:01 PM
1

Word
/r/MGTOW03/12/20 09:59 PM
3

Which specific puppy, where and when did this heinous crime happen. There would be blood everywhere. Nail that story down, then blast holes in it. False accusations can only work if there was some kernel of truth to them and you cannot defend yourself effectively. You have to give her the ammunition to shoot you with. To beat a false wrap: 1) Don't be in compromising positions. It gives you enemy nothing to work with. This is where guys fail. Once you have sex or even try to have sex with her, s…
/r/MGTOW03/12/20 09:58 PM
2

Or she will make one too many enemies and mistakes
/r/MGTOW03/12/20 08:44 PM
4

That is why dueling was invented. Pistols at dawn would solve a lot of this kind of shit. Maybe bringing back those old school courting rules where couples had to be escorted every where before they got married, you had to formally ask permission to court etc.... I wonder if those rules were imposed to prevent false accusations against men as much as they there to protect women from harassment and rape. I'd say bring them back.
/r/MGTOW03/12/20 08:44 PM
3

Whether people believe in Karma or not one thing is for sure, eventually you make one too many enemies. Those old time religions got one thing right what goes around comes around, even if it is only a beat down in the public square.
/r/MGTOW03/12/20 08:35 PM
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Risk vs reward. Problem with going after a woman that is not trailer trash ( even through legal means) is people will side with her automatically. You have to wait until she self-destructs first and have irrefutable evidence. The other way is the enemy of my enemy is my friend. If she has made one too many female enemies. If you have the goods on your target, you can ally with one or more of her enemies and watch those bitches tear each other apart. Old school tactics of going after her male rel…
/r/MGTOW03/12/20 08:26 PM
7

Word
/r/MGTOW03/12/20 08:18 PM
2

Thank god it was mild. I hope is stays that way for our kid's sake. My skill set is 21 years out of date but I can still handle some fuckery. How ever any idiot can blast you or I at a stop light or restaurant and scatter. That's the kind of "war", I'm worried about. Flash mob attacks out of no where, that can happen just about any where. Hell you don't even need guns or IEDs just roll up 4-5 men deep and shank the target prison style. If your kids are with you your options are even more limited…
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 11:13 PM
2

This may sound trite but thank you for your service. I hope you find peace and get yours. I was lucky, peace time vet late 1990s (so it barely counts). I figured, no point dying so rich Karens can put cheap gas into their SUVs only to be told fuck off by the VA or have my benefits cut to pay for her vote. So I got out with the old GI bill and ran in 1999. I didn't figure on the world blowing up in 2020 :/ You're right these kids have no idea of the Pandora's box they are opening. It will be more…
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 10:31 PM
1

Easy to be brave on the internet. In front of a judge you won't be so brave facing an attempted rape charge, because she has set the stage for that accusation. Google married metoo and sexual harassment in marriage. They want it to encompass even the slightest behaviors not just the most egregious stuff that makes the head lines. Fight over sex, that's sexual harassment. Threaten divorce over sex, that's sexual harassment or attempted rape. Also it is not so easy to abandon your kid to her whims…
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 10:16 PM
1

It can drive you to consider suicide. Once the kids arrived you are trapped. It's suffocating. The only thing you can do if you stay is shut down your sexual side and affection. If you try to have sex you are selfish man-child another chore on her list at best. At worst you are a rapist. Once you shut down, you are a monster. The really slick one never tell you they stopping having sex with you. They just pick constant fights until you not only stop trying but withhold affection. If you stop try…
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 10:00 PM
1

Truth
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 09:45 PM
1

Word
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 09:43 PM
1

The only reason cute 20 something would go after a married man is because she thinks there maybe some money there. They have no inkling of how broke most men end up after divorce.
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 09:41 PM
1

True.
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 09:38 PM
3

It depends on your jurisdiction and how good your lawyer is vs her lawyer. What you may save in alimony/spousal support may be less than the ass raping of child support. Nobody gives a shit if a husband is not getting any sex, especially if there are kids and she can argue medical conditions, abandonment is not a sure thing.
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 09:35 PM
4

No need in the era no fault divorces. You don;t need a reason for a divorce now. The only reason to use this strategy is to use social pressure and shaming to get a better deal than you could facing a judge.
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 09:26 PM
2

Would not surprise me at all
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 09:25 PM
5

Before you go that route lawyer up first. Threatening divorce and financial destitution is coercion, any sex you get at that point will be under duress and be considered rape. It may not be the law of the land yet but it is inching that way. I'm sure she can find some rad-femnazi lawyer to argue it in front of a judge.
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 09:24 PM
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Don't you just love double standards. Selfish you ask, selfish if you don't. Once a man goes down the road of killing his sex drive for the "sake of the family" to take care of his kid, you simply cannot turn it back on.
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 09:19 PM
3

Don't get married. If you do get married, keep separate accounts and trusts for anything you had before getting married. Any game of hiding money will get sniffed out by a good forensic accountant. If your assets are significant enough or she is vindictive enough she or her family will hire one. Better to spend you money on a decent lawyer or that judge will do what ever the fuck he or she wants. Many jurisdiction takes into account the lifestyle she and your kids have grown accustomed to as a w…
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 09:10 PM
2

As long as you are not doing anything creepy you can ignore gossip. Simply do not engage.
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 09:01 PM
1

r. ( Go read Peter Turchin if you dare to disagree with the on that ) I read some of his stuff. I wish I have read about it earlier in life. At 50+ my timing couldn't be worse for a civil war, to old to fight in it effectively and to young to have missed it by dying.
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 07:27 PM
1

Marriage will change you often, for the worse. Enjoy your life.
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 07:19 PM
1

What the poster is proposing is one or more steps beyond don't shit where you eat.
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 07:15 PM
1

Women have become competition just like men. You don't sleep with your competition. You don't support marry or protect your competition. At best she can become a useful ally, proceed with caution if you ally yourself to a woman.
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 07:14 PM
5

Not surprised. Men have had to learn compromise and find face saving solutions or face jail, injury or death. Violence was rarely a 3rd party affair for men. Face saving solutions were necessary to allow for deals to be made. Face saving solutions like dueling were invented to reduce the over all level of violence and stop the vendetta cycle. For a woman any compromise or deal is a blow to her perceived status within the family, tribe, community. Something she would perceive as dangerous to her …
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 07:07 PM
1

Problem is when given power they won;t leave y ou allow, they will badger other men into forcing you into working and take all the goodies.
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 06:24 PM
2

She's right, what she forgets to mention her life doesn't matter either. We are all equally worthless and to the victor go the spoils.
/r/MGTOW01/12/20 04:55 PM
3

or will be so rich that he can deflect all such attacks. Being rich and especially being famous actually makes more of a target if there is any kernel of truth and some evidence beyond just her word. Your powerful friends will only protect you for so long before they have to abandon you.
/r/MGTOW01/12/20 04:25 PM
2

It's a very clever power move by Karens. It is literally unchecked power.
/r/MGTOW01/12/20 04:12 PM
1

Sure they can make that accusation and you simply post this text. You don't rape your friends. For a #MeToo to work there has to be some kernel of truth to what she is saying. Matt Lauer, Harvey Weinstein, etc... all had NDAs and paid money. The existence of the NDA itself became all the evidence needed to hang them. If you never tried to have sex with her, even refused her advances to sex with her. Her accusations will fall apart.
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 10:02 PM
3

So true. Women hate the friend zone more than "Nice Guys". Personal experience.
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 09:56 PM
1

Its not a safe answer, but hell of a lot of fun.
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 09:52 PM
2

If a man makes an accusation he knows he had damned well better have the evidence, regardless of social status. A woman expects her stat us to carry the day and it often has. That's why "believe all women" is so important to them. Be demanding evidence you are challenging her power and status.
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 09:50 PM
1

Truth
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 09:43 PM
1

Its because of the more protected sex. Having to protect yourself is risky, it is far safe to have some shmuck do it. The hysterical crying is just a tactic to get you to do the fighting and fixing for her.
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 09:41 PM
2

You are correct, it is not a trap. It is a carefully choreographed close ambush.
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 09:32 PM
1

I agree and neither should college educated and rich men
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 09:32 PM
2

You would have to be a fool to do 30 years ago long before #MeToo. A well liked "Karen" could get you fired for anything you said or did that made her feel uncomfortable. That includes conversations did not involve her and actions not directed at her, away from your or her place of business. That was 30 years ago. Why anyone dates at work today is testament to male stupidity and blue pill programing.
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 09:27 PM
2

No attention = no power. No power = I'm vulnerable and I have no protection, support or resources = fight or flight response in women. By going your own way, you have kept your resources to yourself. You are also denying her your protection. And more scarily, she is now an "equal" competitor, that's a high risk proposition for women. She now has to prove her worth just like men: win lose or draw and live the rewards of success and consequences of failure.
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 09:27 PM
2

Women also don’t know how to respect men’s space. The same way women are called creeps or inappropriate, women exhibit the same behavior but see no consequence. So they keep pushing. Truth
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 09:25 PM
2

Basically in a he said she said situation, he's guilty. Avoiding the situation is your only option.
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 08:58 PM
3

It's not just the wall, you don't cat call a competitor. Especially a Karen who can easily lie on a 911 call to the police. Serene indifference to a woman of any age is the best state you can be in. Simply ignore them. If you have to interact, refer to her as ma'am regardless of age.
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 08:54 PM
2

Best answer, I don;t want one.
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 08:34 PM
2

Blue pill programming and biology is pretty damned strong. Most guys have never had their words and actions weaponized against them. Men also don't realize how low that bar really is for your actions to be weaponized against them. Hint you don't have to act anywhere near like a Harvey Weinstein or Louis CK.
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 07:44 PM
5

This is a don't shit where you eat situation. It gives management an excuse to get rid of your over paid ass without impacting their unemployment insurance. It gives your competitors a ammunition to use against you. A woman will have no compunction in using "being uncomfortable" against you to save her job, get a promotion or simply for petty revenge. If you are still in school, same thing applies, don't shit where you eat.
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 07:38 PM
5

They will also start sex shaming guys by using MeToo type tactics.
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 07:38 PM
3

Combat arms was fun, but you need a plan for post-military. Even in peace time it will beat your body up a lot. So you will need to get post military skills. Even though combat arms allows women now, most cannot handle it physically. Combat arms is a get it done kind of business, zero excuses. That is probably the most important skill you learn in combat arms that is transferable.
/r/MGTOW20/11/20 03:14 PM
1

They hide that shit until you make the mistake of putting the ring on, then she starts to takes control. By the time the kids come she is firmly in control. She will even go so far as to limit your interactions with them to only wife approved activities.
/r/MGTOW20/11/20 03:06 PM
1

If you live in neighborhood that is very social, you see something similar were the wife control the marriage through courts and kids. They control activities in schools and churches via volunteering. If the guy is lucky he just pays for it and gets left alone, with some sex once in a while. If she is a controlling bitch it ends up in divorce. If he gets violent, police will handle it.
/r/MGTOW20/11/20 03:02 PM
2

Status and power trumps all for women. Looks helps but it is not everything. She could be ugly as fuck but if she thinks she is higher status than you , you are dirt. Frame (body posture, tone of voice, knowing your shit, keeping your cool, social graces) all indicates your status and self control. That's why self improvement (fitness, education, job skills, hobbies you enjoy) is so important, it improves your self esteem. You can only fake holding frame for so long before you get found out. Soc…
/r/MGTOW20/11/20 02:12 PM
2

A hard look can shut them up without saying a word.
/r/MGTOW20/11/20 12:33 AM
1

Just ignore them.
/r/MGTOW20/11/20 12:32 AM
3

Oh god so true. She has also never been in a fight either. Weapons, tactics techniques and where you strike can even things out, size matters but not as much as people think it does. Sport competition and sparing are something else entirely. Also women like this like to start drama for you to finish. Which will lead to jail, injury or death for you. Avoid her at all costs.
/r/MGTOW20/11/20 12:21 AM
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Good. It will save some poor bastard years of beta bux/dead bedroom misery and a divorce raping. I actually wished women would stick to that rule so I can be left alone. I wished they had broadcast: if you are a male under 6ft don't try to date or marry so it would have been "socially acceptable". I'm short as shit, been married, had girlfriends even kids. Hell, I've even been catcalled and harassed by some very drunk ladies, a pain in the ass but manageable. I've even been catcalled by teen gir…
/r/MGTOW20/11/20 12:06 AM
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Ok, your soon to be girlfriend is a psychotic control freak who was likely cheating on you. Cheaters often accuse their SO's of cheating. Get rid of her immediately. Don't have sex with her, fool around with her, nothin from here on out, she can accuse you of rape. Ghost her or break up with her over text. If you have to do it in person bring a large female friend that can fight, a girl can hit a girl. Tell your ex no contact from that point forward. Document document document any further contac…
/r/MGTOW19/11/20 11:39 PM
1

If you support a women get something out of it. Preferably money.
/r/MGTOW19/11/20 11:05 PM
1

I was married once it became a DB. No judge will let you walk away scot free of your responsibilities sex or no sex.
/r/MGTOW17/11/20 11:09 PM
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Believe it or not, THIS will be considered RAPE in the near future with the ways things are progressing. Be warned - the writing is on the walls. The criminal legal system has already moved the goal posts on rape many times. It used to be that "rape" was a violent act. Now, Rape is when the woman you slept with has regrets the next day and wants to get revenge because you didn't sleep over that night. THIS.
/r/MGTOW17/11/20 09:52 PM
1

Agreed, but good luck getting society to agree
/r/MGTOW17/11/20 09:46 PM
2

Truth
/r/MGTOW17/11/20 09:42 PM
2

good luck
/r/MGTOW17/11/20 09:40 PM
1

Covid has provided the perfect cover monks.
/r/MGTOW17/11/20 09:28 PM
2

They are lying to you or they have some sort of social anxiety or a mental disability/illness that inhibits her social behavior. Women have a the same two pronged strategy that men have, Madonna/whore, Chad/BetaBux. Women worry about their reputation among women a lot. Biggest slut shamers are other women who they are not so close with. They also worry about how her beta bux might react to her going "around the world" with chad. If a woman wants a relationship she takes it slow, shows her domest…
/r/MGTOW17/11/20 09:25 PM
3

Some women just like to bang with no strings. Consider yourself lucky that you had a great night and move on. You also should consider yourself lucky you escaped a rape charge. Drunken sex has been dangerous for a long time. Beer googles doesn't just affect your visual judgement. It clouds everything else too. It masked all those red flags. If you keep going back you will likely get burned. It is best she forgets you exist.
/r/MGTOW17/11/20 08:37 PM
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Pretty much. Also as a male I support the "bonk ban" as well. I can't stand it when a the bosses girl wears the her husband's or boyfriend's rank. She's getting raises, bonuses and promotions we aren't because she's banging the boss. It's poisonous all the way around. The story of the boss pursuing a hot intern isn't 100% always the case. Sometimes that hot intern pursues the boss. When it blows up the hot intern flips the script, boss gets fired and we get stuck with another training class on s…
/r/MGTOW17/11/20 08:23 PM
2

Welcome to double standards
/r/MGTOW17/11/20 07:23 PM
1

Many that sounds like a plot from a hardboiled detective novel. Man discovers wife's cheating, drowns in pool after getting drunk. It could be suicide or accidental. Maybe it was suicide (no insurance money for her). Maybe she pushed him in during an argument. May her boyfriend(s) helped things along. Sounds like a pretty cursory investigation to me.
/r/MGTOW13/11/20 03:01 PM
5

Worse than that. Most people with college degrees are chasing the status and security of what those jobs (and a college degree) used to promise. They do not give too figs about the education. This is true of men and nearly all woemn. To employers its just a screening check box. Problem is there are two few jobs that actually require a degree. There are even fewer jobs that have the status they once had. Now you have even more idiots competing for those degrees and jobs. You'll have even more idi…
/r/MGTOW13/11/20 02:44 PM
3

Why marry some who views you as the enemy?
/r/MGTOW13/11/20 02:39 PM
3

Women assume they protected and demand even more protection. Women assume they are supported and will always be supported. Most men know they are fucked and have to team up, get smart to protect and support themselves.
/r/MGTOW13/11/20 02:27 PM
1

We live in a disguised matriarchy.
/r/MGTOW13/11/20 02:23 PM
1

Sue for violation of civil rights.
/r/MGTOW13/11/20 02:23 PM
1

Most jobs do not require a college degree. College degrees is just a signal to employers I'm trainable. People need to do an ROI on college costs.
/r/MGTOW13/11/20 01:52 PM
1

Certain amount of truth t that statement.
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 05:44 PM
0

That woman is a fool drunk on her own power blinded by her own echo chamber. That bitch is as bad and as childish as Trump. Getting even games like this just makes peaceful transitions impossible. She forgets the fundamental rules of conflict: The other side gets a vote. And conflict is chaos. Everyone is a legitimate target. Conflict happens at many levels across a spectrum of actions ranging from all out warfare to cancel culture to #MeToo. This election was not a blue wave. Trump lost but the…
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 05:43 PM
1

Blue pill programing is strong and massive. It is a tough dream to deprogram. The only way to effectively deprogram is to live through a shitty marriage and divorce raping and even then idiots sign up for a second and third and... forth marriage.
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 05:14 PM
2

the "rubber stamp" overseers of men's work being pushed at all levels of society That will cause some serious problems. Male managers were bad enough female managers with a princess complex.... Managers are not leaders.
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 05:10 PM
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Feminism has always been about white women. Latino, Asian African American women were just useful allies in gathering more "white girl privileges". Black, Latino, Asian and along white men can fuck themselves as far as white women are concerned. My ex-wife used to bash me with the privileged white male hammer all the time despite being an immigrants son and a veteran. I've seen how karen's work up close and personal, the ex and my privileged white female neighbors gave me an education. Good luck…
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 04:53 PM
3

Exactly. Except that this war will be on US soil, I would not want the 3rd ID doing a thunder run through my neighborhood. What people don't realize this will not be a war against the US Government. It will be a factional war over control of the US Government or what is left of it. The level of violence will be kept well below the threshold of using the US military for the most part. Escalation of cancel culture, flash mobbing opponents, often violent street protests and confrontations, social m…
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 02:24 PM
1

If anything is done, it would be to officials of the administration that committed crimes and or were corrupt. The average joe probably doesn't have to worry about much. Hopefully this is how it plays out and the crazy talk stops.
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 02:10 PM
1

Civil War2 will not look like Civil War 1 (ACW) states seceding. It will be a war of economic dislocation in the early fazes (protest, boycotts people fired from their jobs, denied education, bitter elections etc...) then it will escalating to a war assassination and guerrilla actions factions vs factions over control of the government. The Columbian Civil war would be a closer model than the ACW. Basically a royal cluster fuck of a mess I want no part of.
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 02:08 PM
1

" The democrats are actively compiling a list of people who supported Trump. " Becarefull of conspiracy theories. If they are actually doing this proof is need before anyone can act. Doing something before there is concrete proof is just playing into democrats strategy as making us look like crazy loons.
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 02:01 PM
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