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Field Reportgrindforthegold/r/seduction27/07/22 01:13 AM
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Field Reportgrindforthegold/r/seduction27/07/22 10:15 PM
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Logisticsgrindforthegold/r/seduction21/06/22 12:00 PM
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Fundamentals grindforthegold/r/seduction09/07/22 02:30 PM
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Logisticsgrindforthegold/r/seduction07/08/22 02:41 PM
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Field Reportgrindforthegold/r/seduction03/09/22 01:04 PM
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Fundamentals grindforthegold/r/seduction06/08/22 02:47 PM
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Field Reportgrindforthegold/r/seduction06/08/22 12:02 PM
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Fundamentals grindforthegold/r/seduction25/08/22 08:51 PM
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Outer Game grindforthegold/r/seduction25/07/22 03:39 PM
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i have no idea bro and this sub doesn’t let me freaking post i can’t get any feedback it’s driving me a little nuts … I don’t know if it’s that i’m a catfish or not , but they seem to react well on the dates and give me good vibes. I think a part of it on the first few dates was I gave away too much personal info. health issues, beliefs, philosophical talks etc. all things I think that should be reserved for dates later on once things get more serious. Other than that I don’t have a place to pul…
/r/seduction13/10/22 06:03 PM
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idk been on 8 dates and gotten rejected on all of them. yeah i’m getting better but quite frankly it just feels like there’s something fundamentally wrong with me and i’m just repeating the same bs over and over. taking a break for a while. whatever
/r/seduction13/10/22 03:40 PM
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be good looking
/r/seduction13/10/22 03:39 PM
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i wouldn’t know i’ve gotten rejected in my past 8 dates
/r/seduction13/10/22 03:38 PM
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maybe cuz all the girls are getting play from tinder from the same few dudes. doesn’t mean anything. but yeah you’ll have more chances online , albeit very little to none if you’re average
/r/seduction13/10/22 03:38 PM
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yeah they’re already insanely stuck up
/r/seduction13/10/22 03:37 PM
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be good looking and have money
/r/seduction13/10/22 03:36 PM
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meh i’m not passive anymore and still constantly get rejected. but i don’t have regret anymore and that’s nice
/r/seduction13/10/22 03:36 PM
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no you probably will just have more money. i’ve been on a bunch of dates and i realize girls are so picky now if you don’t have your own place and disposable cash you can forget it unless you get lucky
/r/seduction13/10/22 03:33 PM
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yeah bro annoying went on like 7 in two months and only scored once
/r/seduction04/10/22 08:08 PM
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um yeah we went on a date and i boned her in my car within the hour
/r/seduction04/10/22 08:07 PM
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i have it was pretty funny lol
/r/seduction03/10/22 09:47 AM
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I actually just did this to a girl by holding her hand and she said it wasn’t a bad thing but she was surprised. then she blushed super hard lol. i agree and i’m glad i shot my shot
/r/seduction03/10/22 02:49 AM
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idk bro been on 7 dates and a girl i was taking to for weeks and still can’t land a score. fucking sucks
/r/seduction02/10/22 03:05 AM
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lifts are shoes with extra inches of height. i usually run them at 2.5 inches. beyond 3 could be noticeable , but up to 2.8 it’s not noticeable. i’m 5’4 and currently talking to a girl 3 inches taller. in fact all my gfs have been taller than me. helps you get your foot in the door
/r/seduction28/09/22 02:33 PM
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sorry you had a bad experience with this but quite frankly most people here are either straight retarted and just good looking or decent looking with great game and those guys tend not to post too much afte r a while. You’ll probably just get dudes telling you it’s your confidence or something idiotic like that. it could be. you said you have anxiety. work on that. besides that girls are hard to get. either cold approach indirectly and get good at it or find some hobby or social gathering settin…
/r/seduction27/09/22 06:26 PM
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go indirect
/r/seduction27/09/22 06:25 PM
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wow are you me? happened to me and she wouldn’t try to reschedule or set things up and eventually ghosted me. sorry dude idk why same here i’ve been on 7 dates and 5 girls ghosted me, even if they were well below my looks level. weird. idk i made some mistakes but i’m surprised it was enough for them to ghost me the other two didn’t but i wasn’t really interested in keeping that going
/r/seduction25/09/22 06:52 PM
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lmaoooo this happened to me my first time bro. you’ll get used to it , it’s a numbers game. girls have a lot of options and during the date it’s almost awkward to not go along nicely with it. don’t take it too personally and keep moving
/r/seduction22/09/22 06:38 AM
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i mean to give you a good example of OLD ive been on 7 dates in the past 2 months and 5 of them really didn’t pan through. the others i wasn’t that into. online dating can be very hit or miss because girls don’t like that story of “we met online” and they will factor that into the equation
/r/seduction22/09/22 06:32 AM
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with all due respect in a college campus setting you are in a very social environment and this may not be the most prudent. I would just switch the approach to an indirect approach, ask about the schools, clases general questions etc. be situational in a food line “hey do they have x today? oh these prices did they go up? so high huh?” even if you know the answers pretend you’re clueless. from there you can either warm approach them in the future “hey i remember you thank for the help” or introd…
/r/seduction20/09/22 05:11 AM
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idk how accurate that website will really be. You can just tell by how girls treat you in real life. If you get a lot of good strong indicators from girls regularly you are likely attractive . just be very aware of how new girls you meet (that are single) treat you then again a girl can treat you like shit and still sleep with you so take that with a grain of salt it depends
/r/seduction19/09/22 12:41 PM
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I actually do have sex bro that’s why I’m bringing up what i’m bringing up. like the other guy said working on himself won’t necessarily fix the loneliness. you can do eve thing right and still not have a mate and be lonely. no reason for him to beat himself up more. he can accept his situation and continue to do his best to succeed. he shouldn’t be belittled because he hasn’t had success and others have. it likely has nothing to do with his personal self worth, dating is largely involved in loo…
/r/seduction19/09/22 12:35 PM
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absolutely same it SUCKS. why can’t i just go on a few chill dates and we like each other start dating and have sex. naw it has to be a whole ordeal where i have to ask her a million times to head back to my place or try to escalate and it just makes things a stupid game… hence the name i guess …
/r/seduction19/09/22 12:30 PM
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don’t listen to these retards bro. someone who’s having regular sex can’t talk about what it’s like to not have it . at the end of the day it’s an emotional connection between two people and that’s something that humans have evolved with. it’s normal to be sad about not having companionship. doesn’t make you less of a person or mean you’re internally fucked up at all. you can be perfectly fine and still not have a partner want you, especially as a man, it’s just the nature of biology, finding a …
/r/seduction19/09/22 06:45 AM
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lmfao what kind of psych are you going to bro 😂
/r/seduction19/09/22 06:43 AM
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cuz there’s probably a bunch of other simps doing the same . i don’t use social media with girls unless the girl is adamant about it
/r/seduction15/09/22 03:35 PM
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yep noticed that lately. as i’ve gotten more dates the girls are quite picky , and mistakes are noted and held against me . basically have to be perfect . but i’m getting close to that goal
/r/seduction10/09/22 01:21 PM
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most of us did , i’d say minority of guys had sex in HS / as teens. you’ll get over it. if you take life that seriously you’ll never be happy. you will learn to appreciate things as you grow
/r/seduction10/09/22 01:18 PM
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i could totally see where someone could take this the wrong way. I think what he’s saying is just sometimes you need to try to go for a kiss for example a few times even if she rejects the first advance on it feels right. girls will say no because they’re not ready. but you need to understand when they’re saying not yet and when they’re saying no. this is the problem , some people won’t understand that boundary and could act socially un calibrated getting themselves in trouble or putting the gir…
/r/seduction10/09/22 01:14 PM
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hey man we’re getting dates we are doing better than 90% of men , at this point it’s only a matter of time but we just gotta keep grinding
/r/seduction08/09/22 12:23 PM
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same i keep getting ghosted but ive kissed all 7 girls in all 7 dates i’ve been on. it hurts man fucking sucks
/r/seduction08/09/22 12:19 AM
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same happened to me man but i really did try and she just wanted to go slow . after second date she just started replying super slow and dodging my invites. i don’t think too much on it… she’s a cute girl and has plenty of options and i just wasn’t good enough it is what it is doesnt mean i’m not good enough but in her head i guess I wasn’t
/r/seduction08/09/22 12:17 AM
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I think most men nowadays feel the way you do. dating is really hard for men. don’t feel like you’re the exception
/r/seduction06/09/22 08:12 AM
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this is kind of the scenario i’m in… she literally answers like every two days and keeps dodging my questions . i’m just gonna stop replying it is what it is
/r/seduction05/09/22 08:05 PM
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that’s a bit much wear 2.5s but seriously no one notices or cares if you don’t mention it
/r/seduction05/09/22 03:56 AM
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brooo same man i’ve been on like 7 dates in a month and a half and i haven’t had any luck. got ghosted by one girl i really liked. and i have one girl i got a date 2 with but she honestly only replies once a day and i don’t even think she really likes me… i’m getting better every date but i’m also getting so burned out … it hurts to get rejected. most of these girls i actually wouldn’t have dated but i would’ve probably spent some time with them. at least we’re getting dates and that’s better th…
/r/seduction04/09/22 06:45 PM
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even if you do get dates it’s still freaking hard been on like 7 now in two months and i still haven’t had any luck… close calls but idk i’m getting burned out
/r/seduction04/09/22 06:43 PM
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that’s not a reason to be a creep …
/r/seduction04/09/22 06:41 PM
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sure we can agree to disagree though i wouldn’t do it for social reasons
/r/seduction04/09/22 05:35 AM
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are you sure she won’t just find it a bit creepy? i don’t really do that , but i do just look around in general to the room so i’m not staring at her constantly
/r/seduction03/09/22 08:55 PM
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never really noticed this lol at least certainly never on a date among friends sure but they can do what they want lol
/r/seduction03/09/22 08:54 PM
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lost my virginity at 20. keep your head up that’s normal
/r/seduction03/09/22 07:28 PM
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online mostly then through friends then through work then cold approach to be fair though if I had more drive I could probably do much better in cold approach than the other two but it does kind of require good logistics (a place to pull to) cuz you might wind up approaching really high quality girls
/r/seduction03/09/22 07:27 PM
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yeah bro i’m about to go on a third date soon! finally! hopefully she’ll be my gf soon :) definitely going to just invite her to chill at my crib nothing fancy this time hopefully things will flow & stuff
/r/seduction03/09/22 05:47 PM
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because i can write amazing music for a girl or for people and spark emotion and feeling and future potential while you jack off and play video games
/r/seduction02/09/22 02:05 PM
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eyy this is good advice i would’ve said roughly the same just tth to be as indirect as possible cuz if it’s a small community school you’ll see her again and worse case you can just be like hey you helped me other time how are you how are classes going (it is now a warm approach! don’t burn out your sets looking to close quick in a small college setting like that
/r/seduction02/09/22 03:25 AM
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personally when i feel that “feeling” it means it’s been too long in one spot and i need to escalate, my first escalation is moving her to another bar for another drink , this is like a “second date change of scenery feeling”. i’m there till i feel it again thennext i walk her around and try to hold her hand , then when i feel it again i go for a kiss and so on that “feeling” for me is always an indicator of a need to escalate
/r/seduction31/08/22 02:27 AM
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read over my profile comments , be indirect with a question , see how she responds , if interested cold read her and introduce yourself , oh thanks didn’t mean to bother you were you in the middle of something , well i appreciate it i’m X , are from around here you definitely give me (this area) vibes. … etc etc after this you can be like what are you up to right now come keep me company i’m waiting for a friend blah blah insta date , go for a hand hold while you walk next to her after building …
/r/seduction31/08/22 12:48 AM
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facetime her before
/r/seduction30/08/22 02:09 PM
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nah chinese lol
/r/seduction29/08/22 07:09 PM
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i’ve had one asian girl lol it was fun
/r/seduction29/08/22 04:47 AM
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lmfao don’t sweat it bro i’m sure they’re used to it. i feel the same way about my bartender cuz i’ve taken 7 dates there in a month lmfao i feel like she thinks i’m a savage but it really isn’t a bit deal you’re a dude and having a great time so many guys wish they could even score a date
/r/seduction28/08/22 08:13 PM
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i always mention we can go back to my crib but i genuinely say it from the perspective of like if we’re sitting here doing nothing we can go back and chill. if she says no i don’t mention it anymore but generally i might mention it at the end of dates just casually and joke about her not taking advantage of me lol. i don’t think they ever find it a bit deal to mention like what’s next so long as you don’t make it obviously or creepy that you’re expecting sex and stuff
/r/seduction28/08/22 08:11 PM
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depends how old you are. i didn’t lie when i was 20 and i dated another virgin. but if you’re older you might just wanna lie a little to not freak them out
/r/seduction28/08/22 03:52 PM
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id say like 8 but i’m at 10 so i’m usually just honest since it’s not high
/r/seduction28/08/22 07:49 AM
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to be honest man the more you force that the worse it is. i just assume attraction during the date if she seems happy and is having a good time and just go for the kiss. then if they’re into (two of my past 7 dates have been) they’ll be all over you lmao. but you can squint your eyes a bit and smile and smirk and stuff give her eye contact and then break it so it’s not awkward, most importantly hold her hand for a bit while your walking to make sure she’s into you before going for the kiss it sh…
/r/seduction27/08/22 11:03 PM
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don’t be a creep and make it obvious. just ask questions around campus you already know the answer to, see if it segways into convo. if not when you see them again it’ll be a warm approach “hey you helped me other time right thanks , how you been” basically just be indirect and don’t stay in the same area and don’t be too obvious and you’ll be fine
/r/seduction27/08/22 03:45 PM
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find a gay dude who likes to get railed 😂
/r/seduction27/08/22 03:44 PM
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like i’ve said before it’s just correlation. you see a cool good looking nice guy with a girl and you don’t think about it. you see a god looking asshole with a girl and think “wow see nice guys finish last”. they don’t. both get girls , but you’re focused on the assholes cuz it stands out
/r/seduction27/08/22 03:42 PM
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so you never even tried to kiss her? imo that’s a huge issue , i have this girl that literally barely replies and every time i think it’s over and she ghosted me yet she does eventually reply and went out with me on a date and seems interested in a second , go figure
/r/seduction27/08/22 03:41 PM
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do whatever you want? you’re 23, that’s normal
/r/seduction27/08/22 03:40 PM
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sounds like you just have high standards but aren’t at the mate value of your own standards. honestly man i fell in love with my ex and she wasn’t even that hot. but i really learned to love her for who she was and what she looked like a learned to love her imperfections. she was a lot like me and we got a long really well. unfortunately she was crazy. just don’t decide on a girl right when you meet her if you get along with her it’ll take a few dates and some time before you really bond like th…
/r/seduction26/08/22 07:28 PM
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hate tattoos and lip fillers fucking gross
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:00 PM
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i mean i’m short i’m just good looking. i can get girls around my height and looks level. maybe you’re aiming too high? i’ve still been on like 7 dates and every girl either flaked or we went too far hooking up during the date or i wasn’t into them. i’m exhausted and i need like a month break before trying again… just to show you ever when you are doing good you can still fail cuz girls are just by their nature high value and have lots of options it is what it is
/r/seduction25/08/22 12:59 PM
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not really unless she asks me
/r/seduction23/08/22 04:20 PM
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really? cuz i do think about what i’m gonna say , i’m methodical , i give a shit , and i still succeed , you’re just coping. up your game
/r/seduction23/08/22 04:19 PM
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i’ve been on multiple dates now two weeks away from OLD marching , I try to run it like this: once I ask for the date, I maybe text a few times a day for 1-2 days, then say goodnight , then text her again 1-2 days later for another day or two then say goodnight rinse and repeat until the date bonus if i can get her on the phone sometime if she texts me within that post goodbye phase before i re text her it means she’s really into me and i can ease up on my texting and just comment on my day with…
/r/seduction23/08/22 03:48 PM
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yeah bro this is toxic that girl is obviously into her ex still move on
/r/seduction23/08/22 03:46 PM
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seriously lol she’s the only one at the dive bar you blow out the set and then go home and jerk off? sounds like bad advice
/r/seduction23/08/22 12:38 PM
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hooked up with some girl and she told me at the end of the date she’s leaving the city -.- so annoying
/r/seduction23/08/22 12:36 PM
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idk man i just had a great date and i wouldn’t have been able to this before without working on my talents (music) game and pictures. like it was a lot of fun and back in the day i wasn’t able to lead and work the way i do now on a date
/r/seduction23/08/22 02:50 AM
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looks , confidence , game , luck , status (fame/friends/etc) , money , logistics etc. yes they all matter but, you can break half of them down and just categorize it into game, status and looks if a girl is into you but one the fence your game will determine if you get her if she’s not attracted to you there’s not much you can do , but you can try , which is were luck comes in
/r/seduction22/08/22 08:54 PM
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a lot but it’s mostly keeping your tonality low and chill. a phone call will do a lot more than voice messages. some girls aren’t into that so you’d have to feel it out. i use voice messages if the girls ends me one first or if she replies to one i send with another voice
/r/seduction22/08/22 08:51 PM
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dude ignore the trolls of course it’s useless. it’s a mix of both looks and game. but if your looks are lacking and the girl isn’t into you no amount of confidence will make her want you. same as no amount of confidence a girl shows me will make me want her if i don’t find her attractive. nothing wrong with that, just keep gaming more girls. it’s just biology though. the guy does have a point though. what your saying isn’t confidence that’s just being a dumbass. confidence is escalating , going …
/r/seduction22/08/22 08:48 PM
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welp idk why so many people here deny looks theory but yeah it only makes sense. looks matter and are often the most important part to get your in the door , but usually the rest will be up to your game. It is a mix of both, but if you’re too ugly you won’t get your foot in the door with most girls. People cope cuz they don’t want to believe it i guess, but people also cope by saying it’s only about looks cuz they don’t want to put in the work or accept their game can help. It is a reality that …
/r/seduction22/08/22 11:21 AM
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yes… you’re 5’11… i’m 5’4… work on your game
/r/seduction21/08/22 07:47 PM
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lmaooo the bag
/r/seduction20/08/22 11:01 PM
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just be cool, rather than show her too much interest just interact nonchalantly and when you see the signs she’s into you (eyes wide, pupils displayed, body language, laughing a lot) rather than talk more just go for the hand hold and kiss. be alpha homie
/r/seduction20/08/22 10:58 PM
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personally i don’t like to actually talk about it. it’s all in the tension and talking about it kills it. the most ill say is something as a joke like oh yeah we can always go back to my crib and bang and then be like haha jk but i’m really not i don’t use that more than once tho cuz what really attracts girls is when you don’t say but feel the tension and act on it (hold their hand, go for a kiss etc)
/r/seduction20/08/22 04:02 PM
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oh it absolutely does. i’m 27 now. having waaaay more success than i used to. definitely younger girls are harder to deal with and much less straightforward. i’m actually talking to a 20 year old rn lmao. i don’t think she would’ve gone for a such a forward approach. but i agree older girls have a higher chance of skipping the bs. girls of all ages definitely seem to take me more seriously now than i’m older
/r/seduction20/08/22 03:27 PM
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sorry man i’m not gonna share that here lol , nothing wrong with this sub but people unfortunately have a negative outlook on men sharing dating advice
/r/seduction20/08/22 03:22 PM
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hey man we can agree to disagree. just don’t say it’s confidence cuz i’m confident and been with plenty of girls. but i have a harder time than my pretty boy friends and have to run different game from them. their lines don’t work for me. i’m just not ignorant of the fact that i’m not the best looking guy. nothing wrong with that. I also just have a really high success rate right now getting my matches out on dates so i’ll stick to that. taking high risk pot shots doesn’t make sense to me cuz i …
/r/seduction20/08/22 03:20 PM
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yep on the other hand I do have to build that emotional connection cuz i’m not a pretty boy lmao i use my skills like my music making , charm, social value etc to get me on that level . unlike him though i’ve become so much more well versed because I’ve struggled more. my music is amazing and I can seriously say i only did it for girls and now i ha ve an amazing gift that might seriously get me famous one day
/r/seduction20/08/22 03:02 PM
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dude come on it’s about looks. i’m not good looking enough to be doing that. there’s different strategies for different looks levels. my strategy works well, and it will work well for men i’m lower stats. i’m proud of it and i’ve tried your direct approach before and it hasn’t worked. different strategies for different people this works for me and ill stick to it. just sharing some value my pics are maxed out. any better and i’d be catfishing and i hate doing that. i know it’s maxed out cuz i ge…
/r/seduction20/08/22 02:58 PM
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yeah but like he doesn’t really do anything. sometimes he just grabs the girls ass and is like let’s go upstairs 😂 that doesn’t work for me I escalate too but it’s very covert. Feel out their signals, get close to them as we talk, let the back of our hands graze, if she keeps it there I told her hand, then I go for the kiss, then I hold her hand and lead her to where I want etc etc
/r/seduction20/08/22 02:53 PM
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this is interesting , but that forward approach doesn’t work very well for me my structure for OLD is Cold read > Topic 1 (Ethinicity) > Topic 2 (School/Work) > Close for Number > Topic 3 (Pets - send oic of animal i saw that day) > Topic 4 (what are you up to) > Close for Date (drinks at a nearby bar with a nice view) > Text for 1 more day, say goodnight if the date is far > Try to get a phone call if possible > Reinitiate to give her space between > Go on date > Try to close > Otherwise 2nd da…
/r/seduction20/08/22 02:49 PM
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yeah he’s one my best best friends super cool dude, but his game is just “don’t fuck it up” game. I have more game than him. He’s a tall pretty boy lol but he is a cool as dude as well even if he doesn’t consciously use “conventional game” and just chills out most of the time he doesn’t do anything to mess up the interaction and that’s more than half the battle imo. He also leads and escalates which is the other half. I just have a more conscious methodical way of doing all that.
/r/seduction20/08/22 02:42 PM
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Don’t listen to everyone else. Yeah being ugly will hurt your chances. Plastic surgery can fix serious flaws. But there is a high chance it can break your “facial harmony”. This is SO important. Unless you have a major defect you should focus on growing a beard, maybe growing your hair, getting some lifts etc. Even if you get good surgery, if you don’t have any real flaws like a severely recessed jawline that is recommended by your doctors to fix, or deformities, you will 90% of the time fuck up…
/r/seduction20/08/22 02:36 PM
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just keep going bro you’re so freaking young I got my first gf at 20. was a virgin before that. gave up at like 24 afterwards, then got back into it like at 26, got another gf and now i’ve been doing pretty well talking to a few girls, making music , getting flakes and ghosts but that’s part of the process. Just know it’s natural to feel down and when you try again you can often times succeed. But sometimes you just need a chill pill. At least for me, as i’ve aged, it’s become easier, because ol…
/r/seduction20/08/22 02:28 PM
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I have just regular friends that are really good looking and have banged 50 girls by 21 just off like meeting people. I would say i’m surprised to hear laycouts in the 100s+ , not cuz it can’t be done but because personally it would make me sad. I like giving my heart to one person, and I feel I haven’t been really emotionally attached to too many girls so I feel I can still pair bond really well and I like that
/r/seduction20/08/22 02:26 PM
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meh to be fair i do the same thing lmao
/r/seduction20/08/22 06:47 AM
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hey man i gave up at one point too. then got tired of giving up. grew out a beard with midox. started making music. started finally getting matches. getting better at talking to girls. leading for dates… still getting flaked on a lot but i’m doing much better than before… just know i thjnk everyone has a phase of giving up and then wanting to try again. it is natural. by the time this phase repeats once or twice you should’ve either had success or become old enough that the dating pool gets much…
/r/seduction20/08/22 06:33 AM
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it is a mix of them liking you already AND you seducing them what i would say is if a women isn’t into you or doesn’t like your looks there isn’t really anything you can do to persuade them they already made their choice game is more so about persuading women who are on the fence , they’re into you but not enough to just flat out go for it it’s like when you barely know someone and eventually they become your really good friend , but you had to spend a little more time with them before that frie…
/r/seduction20/08/22 03:08 AM
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jesus dude wtf lmao definitely entered the creep rapist zone that’s not escalating that’s being socially inept
/r/seduction19/08/22 11:19 PM
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“hey do you know what’s due for next class Oh thanks this professor is a pain/great right Where did you go to school? (Personal questions chat) Wanna grab a bite with me after class , waiting for a friend but they told me they’re gonna take forever Go from there… look for signals… escalate… we should hang out again , have you ever kissed a girl etc etc , come over my crib let’s chill , if she gives you signs go for a kiss etc. Mind you, there’s a reason there’s a whole sub for his. Seducing wome…
/r/seduction19/08/22 06:56 AM
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hey man people are gonna rag on you “focus on yourself first , blah blah blah”. naw man gonna give it to you straight rn, yeah there’s a chance you’re just too ugly. sorry man, girls have high standards now a days. now I have a feeling if you had a chance with a girl much uglier than you, you’d probably say no. so first ask yourself: are you looking for a girl, or a girl you like . if it’s girl you LIKE, well you’re shooting up so don’t expect it to be easy. chances are you’re not that ugly and …
/r/seduction19/08/22 06:49 AM
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“hey do you know when the band plays “ do you know if anyone else is playing oh thanks yeah they’re so good huh are you from this area you look like it but you give me like an X vibe oh where are you from at this point she knows you’re hitting on her and if she stays she’s into you
/r/seduction18/08/22 11:18 PM
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this makes me a bit jealous :’) happy for you. just take it easy man. don’t be too serious bringing up a serious talk. you can say something funny like if she gets jealous be like oooh are you jealous? you want me all to yourself? I think i’d be ok with that But usually I ask girls out at the 4 week / month mark if we’re like basically already dating most girls will bring up dating etc within that time frame and you know you’re good. don’t let it go too long to the point though they think you’re…
/r/seduction18/08/22 10:58 PM
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it’s actually not about not confessing feelings, it’s about just taking action going for the kiss etc without telling her. it’s hot and masculine, girls want to experience it not hear about it. of course as long as she’s giving you signals don’t use this as an excuse to harass a girl that’s not into you lol
/r/seduction18/08/22 10:54 PM
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yeah unfortunately my problem is my standards are pretty high… it’s not like 8-9 standards just a girl that cute and skinny , but i guess nowadays cute skinny girls are heavily wanted so it’s a pain in the ass (i still manage to get cute gfs just takes a lot of rejections and ghosts getting there lol) nonetheless i’d recon most dudes on here aren’t really having trouble getting laid , they’re just having trouble finding a girl that matches their standards
/r/seduction18/08/22 05:06 AM
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just remember man you’re getting matches and girls agreeing to dates. I’ve had uglier friends than me use the same exact lines and i’ve tried to run their profiles and the girls just don’t answer the way they answer me. your experience will drastically vary based on your looks level. I appreciate the feedback thanks for sharing i just don’t like it when people say “it’s not that hard” because that’s subjective based on your looks profile / money / logistics / etc
/r/seduction18/08/22 04:56 AM
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jesus dawg just say a drink not a movie that’s weird and you barely talk that’s like a gf date
/r/seduction17/08/22 11:08 PM
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being hot , being able to hold a conversation , being funny but not all the time , being able to lead when the moment arrives
/r/seduction17/08/22 11:07 PM
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get reked
/r/seduction17/08/22 08:21 PM
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I think everyone here already knows Tinder blows , you just figured this out now ??
/r/seduction17/08/22 12:53 PM
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you can follow up but after that you’re done bro stop and one line doesn’t help but it won’t necessarily break and interaction if they’re into you she’s probably just not that into you
/r/seduction16/08/22 09:26 PM
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i don’t understand i’ve been with plenty of girls , ive had dates lays and a gf from online , but I acknowledge that I am a good looking guy and I have talents and relative wealth. I’m not going to tell someone who’s not getting matches at all that it’s something they’re doing wrong , maybe they’re not that attractive , or don’t have a social life or don’t have talents , thing wrong with that but girls just have high standards so i’m not gonna lie to them
/r/seduction16/08/22 04:21 PM
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I make music , but I have a gift so I’m good at it. I can’t really teach someone to make music , it’s more of an inborn thing. So i’d tell you to just choose something you really love and get good at it and it’ll be something that makes you stand out
/r/seduction16/08/22 02:27 PM
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I do get them out on dates. Done be naive. Like I said it’s not that they won’t date a guy from online but they won’t date a guy that isn’t a catch hence they will only date a rea hot guy from online if they’re gonna have that backstory , in person with a better backstory they are more lenient
/r/seduction16/08/22 02:18 PM
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just don’t listen to his advice he games infield with different techniques than he teaches watch what he does not what he says in his lecture portion
/r/seduction16/08/22 12:52 AM
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naw man i usually ask questions go into small comments on them like 2-3 then ask for number then 2-3 then ask for date then after that text them periodically for bursts and say goodnight or try to get them on the phone before the date just be cool and normal, but if you don’t push forward the interaction it’ll stale out so you have to ask for number dates etc or phone calls or rescheduling to build rapport and give the interaction a sense of purpose
/r/seduction16/08/22 12:22 AM
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I think because women have it pretty easy and they also find it embarrassing to meet someone online so if they’re gonna have that backstory the guy needs to be top tier since dating is easier for them they try to focus on in person guys , since then it can have their good backstory, and it’s often difficult for most random men to become a part of that unless they cold approach.
/r/seduction16/08/22 12:18 AM
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lmfao if it was easy everyone would get laid brother
/r/seduction15/08/22 02:01 PM
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Ill type up my take. I usually text and ask them out on day one or like a few texts in. Then once set up I try to call them that same day if the date is a bit far to build some rapper and then say goodnight and imitate again a few days later. If the date is soon or they’re not down for a phone call i’ll just say i’m tired say goodnight and text her again two or 3 days later like hey how’s your week going text another day and then repeat
/r/seduction15/08/22 01:41 PM
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lmfao yeah OP this is called being a dumbass girls will take advantage of any sucker good looking or not they get plenty of good looking dudes hitting on them on any given night
/r/seduction14/08/22 08:56 PM
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yes bro it’s so fucking cringe it’s really sad that that became a predominant belief when it’s so clearly terrible advice. only works for very good looking men like Tusk who just spams in the hopes someone gives him a chance cuz it’s easier to just do that then actually calibrate or be indirect and transition smoothly etc
/r/seduction14/08/22 08:48 PM
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i’m gonna disagree with that and mention that it depends how you go about it. I don’t lie on my approaches. I’m just putting myself in a position for a woman to decide if they like me or not. Also i’m looking for a gf so i don’t just do it for lays. But most people aren’t good enough so they come out in a harassing way or they lie about berthing in an attempt to force the woman to like them instead of just letting her decide without pressure Also plenty of people who do actually do it just for s…
/r/seduction14/08/22 08:43 PM
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5’7-5’9 is “bad” compared to 6’0 + but it’s still coping to thjnk that’s what stopping you that height is fine a small percentage of the population is close to 6’0
/r/seduction14/08/22 07:22 PM
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interesting is that over the counter ? i’ll check it out but so far i’m happy with the rate of the growth
/r/seduction14/08/22 07:22 PM
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it’s not easy but regardless of where you live if you’re taller or same height as the girl you do have a shot
/r/seduction14/08/22 07:21 PM
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not sure but i don’t think i would care cuz i really need this to outline my face. used foam for years and it barely did anything. have been using liquid the past 3 months and it’s finally working so i’d say go for the liquid
/r/seduction14/08/22 01:41 PM
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it blows don’t date crazy bitches i learned that the hard way it never gets better
/r/seduction14/08/22 06:35 AM
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lol i wooulve some girls are just down at that moment it’s like strike when iron is hot thing but it was a little sketchy
/r/seduction14/08/22 06:34 AM
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i’ve never had a girl be able to tell when i’ve removed lifts 2.5 inches and below
/r/seduction14/08/22 06:33 AM
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stop making up exudes past 5’7 you’re taller than 79% of women and all it takes is being taller. as a 5’4 man i can confirm i’ve been with plenty of girls so long as they’ve been my height or below
/r/seduction14/08/22 06:32 AM
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download dating apps and just exist
/r/seduction13/08/22 08:11 PM
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dude wtf is wrong with you. I’m just saying I met this girl at 13 we kissed back then, never dated in HS, she moved away to college, then she moved back from college, we fell for each other and we just recently broke up. I was just trying to say that knowing her for that long was really special and it bonded us a lot even if we didn’t have that much in common or weren’t that compatible
/r/seduction13/08/22 08:09 PM
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im 27 homey
/r/seduction13/08/22 07:50 PM
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just be cool bro. don’t reject her either she’s just telling you be cool don’t make this obvious in front of everyone and don’t be needy af and weird
/r/seduction13/08/22 05:41 PM
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Wow i thought this was gonna be cope but this is a great guide. That last point i’d add to it if you don’t have a beard but have a weak jaw use midoxinil. I’m growing out a nice beard now and it covers my shitty chin and honestly I think i’ve jumped up 2 whole points it’s probably what’s made the biggest difference on my looks
/r/seduction13/08/22 02:56 PM
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dude come on that’s seduction stuff she’s your gf ive never “gamed” my gfs i was always nice and we had great experiences. ignore this sub once you’re in a relationship. but don’t be super needy and cringe and shit. be sweet to your girl man and enjoy it get off this crap you made it and you’re in another phase now you don’t have to be like OMG WAAAAA but just be low wow baby you look beautiful etc you can if you want to thought. the idea is just don’t like constantly be needy and annoying cuz i…
/r/seduction13/08/22 01:41 PM
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exactly nobody is thinking that but no one is dumb enough to do it so i guess that’s what i meant
/r/seduction13/08/22 12:00 AM
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sure i’m sure she’s going about her day. but girls do think this though. or at least know not to start staring at someone you’re not attracted to. i mean if you keep staring at some guy there’s a chance he’ll come and say hi. why would you do that if you don’t find the guy attractive. could even be dangerous. girls are smarter than to not take something like that into account
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:55 PM
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wtf are you talking about. it’s called checking someone out. it happens all the time. if you’re checking someone out and they are too you’ll keep catching each other’s eye. like i said not in passing but in like a waiting room or something it’s just common sense
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:37 PM
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i mean i get it she obviously liked me but just not enough to date me she skipped the explanation and i’m smart enough to get it lol i always tell girls the truth but it does take a bit of guts when to cut them off and be honest
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:36 PM
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oh surprised this posted. i texted her again and she ghosted me. glad i did , didn’t say anything just said hi. but double ghost is enough for me i don’t really mind tbh i came to terms with it a few days later
/r/seduction12/08/22 09:25 PM
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come on man don’t be an idiot the reason i fuck girls is cuz i’m relatively good looking , ive maxed out what’s i’ve maxed out and me telling someone who’s ugly to work on themselves is kind of stupid in that sense. yeah i’ll get a girl i just had a gf but it’s a pain in the fucking ass
/r/seduction12/08/22 09:19 PM
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as much as game can help sadly i resonate with this. feels like in the end it’s mostly about looks and it barely matters what i do. if a girl wants me she wants me if not she doesn’t she doesn’t. she’ll act accordingly and that’s about it .. while i’ve had success i don’t consider it much at all in terms of bringing me any kind of happiness. i think life already told me where i belong and some days i just feel i should finish accepting it if more money and fame is what it takes then whatever gir…
/r/seduction12/08/22 07:49 PM
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umm i guess it depends , not really , but if you’re in a waiting area or something and you keep catching a girls eye more than once then she probably finds you attractive otherwise they wouldn’t really try to look at you as to not make you think they want you
/r/seduction12/08/22 05:05 PM
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why would it ruin your self esteem i get it though , i’m a way. but regardless you’re gonna hurt them though if you leave whether you date them or not which is besides the point cuz you’re right better not to date a girl you wouldn’t actually care to date cuz i mean it doesn’t make a lot of sense
/r/seduction12/08/22 05:03 PM
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well to be fair I have a very specific way of going about it i don’t really want to share cuz i made the whole script myself , so i think it depends how smoothly you’re going about it , but indeed you will get a lot of rejections , it just stings a million times less which is good for your mental health
/r/seduction12/08/22 05:02 PM
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Cocaine
/r/seduction12/08/22 05:01 PM
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tbh man just keep dating girls a few months at a time. it’s practically the same as not asking them out. I don’t think it’s bad to give the girl some respect by asking her out unless you really don’t like her
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:34 PM
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maybe that’s just your dumb ass lmao i wouldn’t pass up that opportunity but i see what you’re saying it’s good advice
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:32 PM
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you know man a bunch of people are gonna talk shit here to you but this is actually a really smart way to go about it. you’re leveraging the fact you’re not as good looking as others with good logistics and emotional (low) status in the girl. i think if you tried regular approaching again indirectly you might find more success
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:19 PM
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lmfao dude this is fucked up but it’s actually really smart 😂
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:53 PM
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kek i’m 5’4 but there’s hope buddy ive been with like 10 girls. there are different levels. the less attractive you are the more indirect you need to be and the more wealth / status you need to accumulate to better your situation. get some lifts, try and get a good financial standing and go run some indirect daygame
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:51 PM
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man up and go approach
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:49 PM
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can people stop with this nice guy shit its a huge fucking cope girls don’t care about nice or not nice they care about game and looks and there’s just a lot of good looking dudes with good game that are assholes and so when you see a girl be into them you assume that this is a thing and it’s just correlation
/r/seduction12/08/22 12:00 AM
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a super powerful example: i met my ex when we were 13. we have such a powerful story bro. and honestly i feel like i barely liked her and she would piss me off all the time lmao but our backstory alone was enough to make me fall in love with her. in the end we weren’t good for each other a backstory isn’t a concrete reason to love someone but it can be huge
/r/seduction11/08/22 10:15 PM
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umm i always try to go with a buddy if it’s a big new group or i’m not 100 percent sure i can keep things smooth with the group (again usually if it’s a bunch of new people) so if you guys have nothing to talk about you don’t look like an idiot can “fall back” on your body , just make sure he doesn’t take all your attention and helps you pull or comes on his own car if that’s what the night leads to i will always go alone if i know the girls well enough as once i know them i can carry myself wit…
/r/seduction11/08/22 07:59 PM
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feel you man. it’s so interesting because even when i do get girls online even tho i clearly don’t care and a girl is a girl regardless , i still feel a bit of shame about having met her online. i mean if i meet my future SO online who gives a fuck, but that little feeling of like weird like oh like really we met here , i’m not surprised if girls feel that and that’s why they flake so much online or are so picky, cuz if they’re gonna have that backstory the guy better way above them , that’s my …
/r/seduction11/08/22 07:57 PM
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should’ve boned her in your car
/r/seduction11/08/22 07:52 PM
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lmao providers. SAD. I’m gonna have a very hard time “providing” for any girl that didn’t want me before i had money or fame
/r/seduction11/08/22 12:19 PM
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well, this happens to me with girls that are highly attractive. if you’re going for guys that are “a catch” or “really hot” this will keep happening , until you eventually get lucky. if you want a hot guy then put up with it until you land it. otherwise as you bring your standards down the flaking will come down as well. It’s kind of a risk reward thing , if you want the reward of a super attractive/tall/successful guy you’ll have to have to take the risk of them not liking you or leading you on…
/r/seduction11/08/22 12:18 PM
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that’s an extreme though. i don’t just magically lose feelings for a girl cuz she’s needy. only if i wasn’t that into her. and if that’s your reason you have problems… that’s not love , that’s just being a stick up dumbass, again why want a woman like that
/r/seduction11/08/22 12:14 PM
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maybe cuz you’re not that into them so you’re toxic. not that into them cuz they’re not that hot. but the hot ones you’re nice to. and they reject you cuz their hot and are hard to get . now if they already like you a lot and you’re like pulling away they might be like oh i want him now etc but that should be used sparingly
/r/seduction11/08/22 03:37 AM
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i mean bro i’ve had girls that i had great times with and banged a lot but when i realize they really loved me i had to break it off cuz i couldn’t see myself dating them cuz they weren’t hot enough or my type. sorry dude maybe that’s what happened i know it’s brutal but she could have a great time with you and still not want to officially put you on insta and stuff
/r/seduction11/08/22 03:36 AM
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that’s so dumb why would you want a girl like that
/r/seduction11/08/22 03:35 AM
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i would treat carefully. be indirect and maybe ask them if they know something about the store , from there maybe make an observation oh i’ve seen you here before you come here often right? do you work from your laptop or something? , well didn’t mean to bother just waiting for a friend , unless you wanna keep me company? then maybe just laugh and sit with her, progress it forward and either make a date or go for the safe route and reapproach warmly another time you’re both there , hey i rmemebe…
/r/seduction11/08/22 03:33 AM
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that’s not at all what i said. game is really important and it’s essential to pulling above your looks level. what i’m dating is there’s a bunch of terrible advice out there that’s gets spewed on here over and over if you have experience with the content you’ll notice coaches like rsd coaches teach you the wrong things so you won’t succeed but then do the opposite in their field reports (for example RSD tyler’s hot seat at home) he says “guys structure is useless just be high energy bla blah” th…
/r/seduction10/08/22 03:18 PM
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If you’re below average in looks, you’ll be shooting up, which means you need to either get lucky or max out. Max out money, looks, skills, social life, etc. It’s sad now a days men need all of this just to pull a quality girl , and women don’t have to do shit , but that’s life so just man up to it
/r/seduction10/08/22 01:54 PM
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don’t be an idiot. 5’9 is more than fine. below 5’7 is the problem because you will be shorter than a majority of women… sadly i’m in that range, but i’ve still managed to have success
/r/seduction10/08/22 01:50 PM
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this sub often regurgitates the ignorant shit a lot of fake púa companies like rsd teach. if you watch their infields they literally teach one thing (useless) and in the video do something completely different (indirect openers , structure , semi canned lines , not being an idiot , slow escalation etc) they just spew that crap of don’t try or hold frame or whatever dumb ass shit to keep you from realizing looks matter and sometimes the reason you fail at some approaches is out of your control an…
/r/seduction10/08/22 01:37 PM
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i’ve seen it , it’s a good program. i think the gist is that you need a strong social life , a good job , and good social skills to have your best chance at keeping a girl. he often mentions building a social circle by having dinner parties and kind of being the man at the center of it all. it gives you a strong alpha presence and just in general it’s fun to live a social life and girls want that i’ve noticed once a girl really knows me they tend not to leave so easy because i have a lot of frie…
/r/seduction10/08/22 05:28 AM
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i know bro i’m just saying he’s not attractive enough to not be getting rejected
/r/seduction09/08/22 07:45 PM
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never said he couldn’t get a hot girl , ive had hot ass gfs, but i’m not thaaat attractive so yeah i have to go through a few girls before landing one
/r/seduction09/08/22 03:26 PM
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sorry man but i think you’re coping you’re probably not as attractive as you think or you’re making huge mistakes in your game. likely you think you’re hotter than you are.. sorry
/r/seduction09/08/22 12:27 PM
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yeah but in that situation you should start escalating and trying to make something of it. it’s a little diffeeent cuz OLD you haven’t met in person yet and while i doubt i’m a catfish because she still stayed and enjoyed the date but I certainly don’t look as perfect as my pictures so i’m sure there’s a sense of pondering after the date for her whether she can do better since the backstory is super lame anyways of us meeting online it has to be a big catch for really hot girls to be like ok he’…
/r/seduction09/08/22 07:05 AM
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to add to this i would try to get the on snapchat cuz that way it’s not really awkward it chats die out and stuff
/r/seduction08/08/22 11:46 PM
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lmao why don’t you use the app for 10 minutes get swarmed with matches and then realize it’s insanely easy for girls and no one is actually gonna think you’re desperate
/r/seduction08/08/22 11:45 PM
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idk id text her sparingly and say good night and then try to call her on the days you do talk to her so it’s like a mini date before you see her again. also try to close next time
/r/seduction08/08/22 11:11 PM
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honestly man this girl i was talking to i would say goodnight sometimes and then start up 2 or 3 days later but she would always reply until she ghosted me after our first date which just tells me if a girl is actually into she’ll reply so long as you don’t say anything stupid
/r/seduction08/08/22 10:41 PM
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to be fair bro i think she liked me but just not enough to date me. brutal but simple and i think true cuz that’s how it is with me and other girls. there’s just some girls i have a lot of fun with but they’re not attractive enough for me to officially date. I’ll still be with them but girls i think generally don’t like to be with guys they wouldn’t date so they just move on to the next
/r/seduction08/08/22 02:36 PM
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not necessarily… yo can do everything right and still get ghosted… mix or confidence looks status and money. if you’re not killing it with everything there’s no guarantee a girl will keep wanting you, but i’ve had it happen where they do
/r/seduction07/08/22 11:17 PM
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true man but it sucks cuz i clicked so well with a girl this weekend and she ghosted me. never been so shocked like that before. the others girls that ghosted me i could see coming but this one really hurt. makes me realize that even if you click you might still not be enough, but that’s just part of the dating game… at least i’m getting dates which is not something i used to be able to do..
/r/seduction07/08/22 11:12 PM
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yup that trusty back seat has seen it’s fair share (when i was younger to be fair)
/r/seduction06/08/22 01:04 AM
1

get that dick dawg
/r/seduction06/08/22 01:02 AM
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ask question > cold read > topic 1 > logistics (what are you up to) -> ask for insta date —> if no, 1 more topic > mention potential future plans > number close with assumption it will occur
/r/seduction05/08/22 08:57 PM
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yes this is definitely true as you get older it weighs a lot more because some women want the most stable life they can get. on the other hand i don’t make much and i’ve had gfs, although i’m on the path to making much more soon. you’re not a bad looking guy but you’re not very good looking either. you could try for indirect daygame or put your job description on an OLD profile. I know it’s “showing off” but there’s no way for them to know if you don’t. You don’t have to mention your net worth j…
/r/seduction05/08/22 06:15 PM
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then you’re good man you’re in a great position go out there and do some indirect daygame get some lifts anyways like 2 inches and lie on your bio and say you’re 6’0! I do that with my bio and i have great dates and the girls never ask afterwards
/r/seduction05/08/22 04:16 PM
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maybe but it would’ve been worse had she not mentioned it i guess cuz then she’s definitely trying to get it lol
/r/seduction04/08/22 10:17 PM
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go indirect when you open. practice at home building a script and talking to wall for at least 30 minutes, have a good list of topics to ask and link into when you’re ready get out there and try to just go with the flow but if you get stuck refer to your script. it’s like studying for a test really can’t expect to do well in anything in life without preparing first
/r/seduction04/08/22 10:15 PM
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dude honestly i just have normal convos ask normal questions and escalate from there. nothing too flashy. gotten several dates lately. some dudes like to be super flashy and stuff which can work with certain girls but that’s not really me so unless the opportunity a joke or something arises i don’t say anything too crazy
/r/seduction04/08/22 10:13 PM
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it’s complete bullshit. i got my first gf and she was super hot and i was dying to get a gf. just shit coaches say to keep you hooked buying their products. beware of bad advice , focus on improving your looks and your game strategy
/r/seduction04/08/22 09:34 PM
1

I dated a single mom she was really amazing and is one of my best friends but her kids will imprint on you and it’s a big responsibility. We went our separate ways but I would give it a shot cuz you never know but for me I tried and I know like it’s really hard for me and i’d rather be with someone without kids for the time being as i’m still pretty young
/r/seduction04/08/22 02:23 AM
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honestly he’s probably just nervous if he told you all that. why don’t you just walk him to his ca or something kinda isolated and try to make a move on him 😂 jeez dude needs to up his game like idk what id do with a girl is walk with her while leaving maybe be like oh walk me to my car i’ll drop you off and just like give her signs and i’d personally just try to hold her hand and go for a kiss but it’s up to you if you wanna go that far
/r/seduction03/08/22 03:30 AM
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only a true simp would say this
/r/seduction03/08/22 03:28 AM
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there is good advice here but you need to know how to sort it out from the bad. for every post i write on to give good advice there are tons that i don’t cuz well i have a life and so do the guys that are better than me at game and success
/r/seduction02/08/22 09:39 PM
1

i’ll dm you
/r/seduction02/08/22 06:12 PM
1

that’s facts ngl you gotta allow them to go basically through the whole night even bring it up like oh you can go if you want etc and if they stay you know you’re good
/r/seduction02/08/22 05:58 PM
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sounds like you’re shooting well above your mate value / looks level. the higher you shoot the higher the chances this happens. could happen as well with someone on your level. but guys that tend to do well at a young age are prone to playing the field. but when I was 19 I had a great long term gf. I think we matched each other’s looks well. it will be a mix or luck and how high you shoot , but you’re a girl so you’ll have plenty of chances to find someone. if you’re getting emotionally hurt jus…
/r/seduction02/08/22 05:52 PM
2

except i’ve pulled from cold approach lmao and i’m 5’4 what’s your excuse
/r/seduction02/08/22 05:51 PM
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totally agree , it’s all about having a structure down packed and then just trying to be natural and deviating from it. but if you get stuck you go back on your structure
/r/seduction01/08/22 07:54 PM
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maybe after all the lockdowns and isolation girls are in a really soft state rn lol I certainly can appreciate human company on another level now. anyways my ex was super cold and man that shit fucking sucked in the end she screwed me cuz she was sick in the head. i prefer a warm girl who tells me she loves me too soon any day over that crazy fucking cold ass bitch
/r/seduction01/08/22 05:03 PM
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well to be fair i don’t have a hard time saying it back if i like the girl. but from my experience i usually say it first so idk. as much as people say girls sleep around a lot i kinda think they don’t which is why dating is hard , so maybe she really did choose you out of several people and built up feelings quickly. just depends on the girl you got a little luck (or unlucky i guess) so have had it happen twice in a row
/r/seduction01/08/22 04:25 PM
1

really? that’s shitty news. well i guess i won’t stop then lmao are you sure you allowed your hairs to become terminal? I personally haven’t lost the gains I made from midoxinil and i stopped for a year and a half
/r/seduction01/08/22 12:45 PM
1

i had old pictures of my ex and we had been broken up for a long time you don’t know just off that
/r/seduction01/08/22 08:49 AM
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lmao it’s an obviously important part of the conversation? how am i gonna ignore that the dude is top tier, which will cause a drastic difference in how women react to him. nothing wrong with that, but it makes sense why if you are at that level you will actually have lower mate value women not believe you vs higher mate value women who see him on their level and wind up being more hooked than the girls below that level. it was the other idiot that started complaining about god knows what you sh…
/r/seduction01/08/22 08:47 AM
1

yeah for head hair not for beards. lol my beard never went away been using midox for years. it’s almost like it was made for that more so than scalp hair lol. i look A MILLION times better with a beard it’s so crazy and i can tell it makes a massive difference with how girls treat me
/r/seduction01/08/22 08:45 AM
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are you asking why people cheat? idk many reasons as to are you being paranoid? yeah honestly you are cuz people stay friends or amicable with exes that doesn’t mean they’re with them or still love them
/r/seduction01/08/22 05:23 AM
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to be fair lately at 27 i’m doing great online. girls are a lot more responsive. when i was younger it worked too but girls were really flaky
/r/seduction01/08/22 04:32 AM
1

impossible
/r/seduction31/07/22 10:34 PM
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i wouldn’t unless i knew them well, but that’s up to you i guess they might just be nice and lie to you
/r/seduction31/07/22 09:44 PM
1

dude it’s not that much effort… i just know in my head there’s roughly 10-15 topics i can even have conversation on, ive done a lot in my life so i make sure to have some stories in mind and then things flow from there. eventually once i run through all the topics there is nothing to talk about but at that point i should be escalating and at least kissing her already. if you can’t have a convo with a wall for like 25 minutes you won’t be ready for a real cold approach or date you’ll just be impr…
/r/seduction31/07/22 09:17 PM
20

yeah but dude look at your profile you’re like a god 😂 i’m not surprise girls below your mate value don’t believe you
/r/seduction31/07/22 08:59 PM
16

not really. i think it’s just because the girls you really want are probably better looking than you which means you need tight game, luck and if you have it talent or money to boot. those dime pieces aren’t gonna easily settle from someone less good looking than them as for advice for OP: maybe take a good look at your facial structure. would a beard help you? is your chin weak? use midox and grow it out are you short? get some lifts do you have good social media validation? work on it don’t ju…
/r/seduction31/07/22 08:59 PM
1

umm i mean dude you gotta have a few stories i’m your pocket and few hours worth of ideas. you gotta run through every topic you can and try to keep things upbeat and move her around and stuff. if they smoke weed that’s always a huge plus
/r/seduction31/07/22 08:57 PM
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some girls are just there for company. i’ve kinda been guilty to do that to girls before i’m like oh she’s kinda hot i’ll talk to her but then i’m like ehh idk etc etc. maybe it’s one of those things or she’s just not actually serious about meeting anyone from it
/r/seduction31/07/22 08:56 PM
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lmao sure but they still me with the 5’4 genes damn !!
/r/seduction31/07/22 03:50 PM
1

find a good KPop artist, profit
/r/seduction31/07/22 02:57 PM
2

thank you. said it before me. no point in bashing them when seriously looks are huge. i’m not gonna sit here and pretend my success with women isn’t in large part due to my looks. YES it’s in part my game, yes at 5’4 i shouldn’t get girls but i still do (meaning yes at times you can indeed overcome certain shortfall in your looks), nonetheless i am a very racially good looking guy and telling others it’s my magical confidence is ignorant when girls clearly swipe on me in part due to my looks onl…
/r/seduction31/07/22 02:52 PM
1

very impressive. always appreciate someone experienced who shares their knowledge
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:10 AM
1

yeah bro indirect game, my favorite style, if you’re stupid enough to be asking that imagine what a girl thinks. they know you’re hitting on them but there’s plausible deniability
/r/seduction31/07/22 01:24 AM
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go for the second bro seems like you’re gonna have a chill time what’s the point of being with a girl who won’t even have sex with you lmao sorry but that’s kinda weird to me
/r/seduction31/07/22 01:23 AM
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It depends you can do a lot to build attraction but yeah if your mate value is higher than hers and she’s instantly hooked you’re probably gonna be fine unless you really fuck up
/r/seduction31/07/22 01:22 AM
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depends on the girl, most girls i’ve been with are chill and my first two exes were awesome. my third i was in love with but she was batshit crazy. tons of drama. just depends on the girl
/r/seduction30/07/22 11:10 PM
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well I would just move around and really be sure a girl is gone before you keep approaching
/r/seduction30/07/22 11:09 PM
1

take some cocaine to the club. open sete. do some lines with them. profit
/r/seduction30/07/22 03:01 PM
2

i think it’s just coping girls don’t care if you’re a bad boy or not they care if you’re cool and reach their looks threshold
/r/seduction30/07/22 03:55 AM
1

dude please don’t. just say you don’t use social media
/r/seduction29/07/22 10:35 PM
1

lmfao
/r/seduction29/07/22 04:50 PM
0

dude you should’ve already banged lmao do your thing but it might not go anywhere since you didn’t make a move
/r/seduction29/07/22 04:26 PM
1

open indirect , cold read her , 1-2 topics max ethnicty job , find out her logistics , mention a place nearby she might like , set up date , close for number , rinse and repeat. Try to actually pretend your shopping even bring a fake shopping bag don’t be that weirdo just day gaming with a water bottle
/r/seduction29/07/22 02:47 PM
0

lmao you don goofed bruh
/r/seduction29/07/22 02:46 PM
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look man to be fair… it’s not so much a chase as it is that girls have high standards. sometimes the whole chase sadly was over from the start cuz they’re just messing with you. I do this too when I match with girls i don’t find that attractive but still talk to them for fun. the “chase” is really just following through on escalation and seeing if she lets you. if you did everything right and she stops replying then she probably wouldn’t have been down anyways. Went on a great date two days ago …
/r/seduction29/07/22 01:28 PM
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in my experience it’s kinda hard to have a platonic relationship with a girl unless you’ve banged then before, i know it sounds crazy but if you decide to be their friend after that a lot of them will cuz they see you as high value since they already slept with you most of my platonic friends that are girls are too busy in their own lives to really chill with me for shits and giggles
/r/seduction28/07/22 05:58 PM
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i mean you make out with them a little once during your date, eventually lead them to your car, i make out with them on the back door and if they’re really into it i just open the backdoor and push them in lmao this will only work with certain girls that are really into you and like sloppy making out with you type shit. i get some dates like this and some dates where they only give me a little kiss.
/r/seduction28/07/22 05:57 PM
2

look through my profile comments i talk plenty about it
/r/seduction28/07/22 03:09 PM
3

your backseat lol with younger girls i’ve done that plenty, otherwise you can run the beach at night (works like a charm actually if she’s bout that) or a hotel. but honestly once you bang the girl like she’ll eventually know you live with your parents and she’ll be cool with coming over if she likes you
/r/seduction28/07/22 03:07 PM
1

my nigga i went on 3 dates in the past 3 days. first date i smoked weed got drinks with the girl and walked around. why the fuck would i NOT kiss her at that point in the bear minimum? she was giving me clear signals of interest (facing me, smiling, enjoying herself). now we met online so it was clearly a date but if you did all that and you guys are smoking weed and vibing just go for it
/r/seduction28/07/22 01:13 PM
2

read through my profile i’ve commented in detail many times
/r/seduction28/07/22 08:13 AM
5

indirect daygame
/r/seduction28/07/22 04:17 AM
1

honestly man best thing you can do is get involved and if you do approach be very indirect
/r/seduction28/07/22 04:16 AM
6

pay one your boys to let you pipe at their crib if all else fails
/r/seduction28/07/22 04:11 AM
1

very highly doubt any girl will go on a date with a dude they don’t find attractive. it’s an awkward situation unless you’re buying them a table at a club it wouldn’t be worth a few free drinks
/r/seduction27/07/22 10:45 PM
0

be indirect ask about the artist coming up that are playing have molly and weed on you profit
/r/seduction27/07/22 03:23 AM
2

lmao imagine being used by girls for sex 😂 plenty of dudes that don’t even get laid. i get you tho bro lol strange problem to have but i’m glad you got a girl
/r/seduction26/07/22 09:33 PM
2

i have like a structure from start to finish not necessarily a script but it allows me to just pump in what i need to and hope it works lmao and it often does. usually like 4 texts in chat (2 topics) , number close , 3-4 texts over text (1-2 topics) , ask for date , then kinda ping or try to talk to her on the phone, and keep in touch with her over snapchat until your date
/r/seduction26/07/22 06:45 PM
2

lmfaooo
/r/seduction26/07/22 06:42 PM
1

no they’re a cope lifts will help you 10x more
/r/seduction25/07/22 11:59 PM
0

lmfaoooo broooo you definitely might have something 😂 but you won’t know until a few weeks from now , get tested then and you should be within time frame to start coming out positive for stuff, hope it doesn’t tho good luck
/r/seduction25/07/22 11:57 PM
1

i know bro OLD is just too rigged
/r/seduction25/07/22 05:22 PM
1

this was the first night maybe 8 texts in 4 over app, 4 over text and i was gonna close in the next 2
/r/seduction25/07/22 04:18 PM
4

there is no hoe phase for guys unless you’re chad bro jus hop from gf to gf if you can
/r/seduction25/07/22 03:40 PM
3

totally bro went from 0 success on tinder to having dates lined up on hinge big difference mainly cuz you’re only allowed 8 likes a day and there’s less people so just less clutter for girls i think
/r/seduction25/07/22 03:16 AM
1

actually i’m ngl my last girl i was super super nice to her but i vented to her about her ex that was my old best friend and she couldn’t take it and just left. ngl some girls are so damaged they won’t take your shit but quite frankly i was just holding myself to my values and i let her know honestly how i felt about for example sporadic ugly tattoos, or just being negative all the time. if i had to do it all over again i’d do it the same way, cuz i hold myself with value but yeah she honestly t…
/r/seduction25/07/22 12:10 AM
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be chad
/r/seduction24/07/22 09:12 PM
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yeah i keep commenting on posts saying this but people are too damn dumb smh
/r/seduction24/07/22 09:09 PM
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confidence is a sham, memorize a good indirect script work on it well, approach try to do your own things and if you get stuck refer t your script. memorize perfect it then deviate from it. confidence will come from knowing you’ve practiced and know what to say in a pinch
/r/seduction24/07/22 04:34 AM
1

why don’t you approach girls that dont work there indirectly, you don’t want people recognizing you and if she works there she will
/r/seduction24/07/22 04:32 AM
1

i’m 5’4 😂
/r/seduction24/07/22 04:31 AM
2

yeah dude there’s always height increasing surgery
/r/seduction24/07/22 04:31 AM
1

i’m 27 and i’ve called girls plenty. some don’t want to talk and that’s fine but usually if they are down i always close
/r/seduction23/07/22 04:41 PM
2

i don’t think anyone here is suggesting some dumb ass shit like that lmao
/r/seduction22/07/22 06:29 PM
1

sure there’s that too
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:47 PM
2

i mean they’d probably be down cuz they’d saw your watch and realized you probably have bread and are a decent looking guy. i’m sure a stripper would gladly quit her job to be taken care of by someone she’s attracted to lol like some i’m sure don’t care but i wouldn’t be surprised if some of them are actually down
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:36 PM
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why don’t you actually try calling her on the phone and you’ll find it’s like a mini date. i build soo much rapport with girls over the phone
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:34 PM
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It’s animal kingdom really, men compete for the women, it’s just how it is. women get to pick so they’re picky. it is a mix of not knowing what to do combined with high beauty standards.
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:33 PM
2

idk but my first ex told me that and then i asked her out and she was super happy about it
/r/seduction21/07/22 10:14 PM
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idk i’m just very lovy dovy. me and my exes have said really wonderful like loving stuff to each other when we’re in bed together. sex for me is more about the emotional connection that sex itself. but maybe i’m one of the odd ones out
/r/seduction21/07/22 10:11 PM
1

i’m alright. with my beard and long hair i’m like a 6.5-7 maybe? definitely not 8-10 because i’m not getting matches like that online. and i’m not killing it with girls or anything especially without putting effort in. i’m also very very short at 5’4. but i’ve had very beautiful girlfriends before so i must be pretty decent. i get good reactions from women as well. I’ve also been alone for very long periods of time. I’d say it makes sense most of the people here that stay a while would be decent…
/r/seduction21/07/22 10:07 PM
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i mean i met a really sweet girl and we’re taking this week, but most of the time i don’t get lucky like this, and have long periods of not meeting anyone. cold approach can a be huge advantage when OLD isn’t working and generally you can pick up girls far above your mate value because your intial story is interesting. of course assuming you’re approaching indirectly, approaching directly is cringe and you’ll get rejected by most girls and the intial story isn’t very good it’s just like “he thou…
/r/seduction21/07/22 09:38 PM
0

personally i don’t really like dirty talk tbh lol
/r/seduction21/07/22 09:35 PM
1

maybe if you’re in a really good social frat. i was in a co ed one and i had a lot of fun, parties hookups and relationships , no threesomes or crazy orgies for me lmfao i don’t think that’s normal. but yeah try to get involved
/r/seduction21/07/22 09:33 PM
1

yah tbh it’s super obvious for me now when a girl wants me to kiss them
/r/seduction21/07/22 09:31 PM
2

LMFAO has to be the worse advice i’ve ever heard
/r/seduction21/07/22 09:31 PM
1

i would say man get her on the phone set up a date halfway through you guys or drive over and try to at least kiss her at some point in the night otherwise she’ll lose interest no pressure though im talking to this girl i met online and we set up a date like two weeks later and we’re still chatting and she obviously really likes me just make sure you try to move things forward
/r/seduction21/07/22 07:25 PM
1

i’ve been with 10 girls, but i could be with many more if i got with girls i wasn’t attracted to lol. but yes i am attractive facially. i get you man trust me i understand and i acknowledge there’s a point where there’s nothing you can do but it has to be really bad otherwise you can generally just shoot for girls well below your mate value, i’ve just found most guys even if they’re ugly don’t want to indirectly cold approach girls that are well below their mate value
/r/seduction20/07/22 07:31 PM
0

get wrecked that’s why i have long hair a lot of girls dig it
/r/seduction20/07/22 07:26 PM
1

yeah man best thing you can do is play it cool pretend like nothing happened and if you two are alone don’t say anything just chat with her and if the vibe is there you can try to hold her hand and eventually kiss her just don’t be awkward or forceful, build some rappor again and if in private she’s giving you signals maybe try to give it a go
/r/seduction20/07/22 07:25 PM
1

lmao ok pathetic but it works. just giving some solutions here. the world isn’t fair at the end of the day. some people get the short end of the stick but there are ways out of it. anyways people told me to kill myself cuz i was 5’4 and i’ve fucked plenty of girls in the west so it’s not as simple as “you’re short it’s over” etc for most people that aren’t in the true bottom
/r/seduction20/07/22 07:15 PM
2

that’s right
/r/seduction20/07/22 07:13 PM
1

you should double down and start asking them to send you money
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:55 PM
2

yeah dude you gotta do that in private with her otherwise it adds all this social pressure and makes it awkward
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:53 PM
3

if she says she doesn’t fuck on the first date then you’re good and you’ll probably get laid she could be avoiding but honestly it looks more like she’s on the fence with her emotions about going on the date cuz she just broke up. that’s not bad just play it cool and try to make it happen
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:50 PM
3

lol tyler sucks at game though
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:23 PM
1

actually yes plastic surgery would be one way to grind hard, earning money, moving to a country that’s pooere , i’m top of that approaching more girls indirectly (if you’re not good loooking you shouldn’t be going direct), and not trying to shoot for girls above your mate value if everything if failing. if you’re only approaching girls above your mate value you’re risking rejection, which is fine if you don’t care. but if you do you can go for girls well below your mate value and you should even…
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:21 PM
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is it your boys mom?
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:14 PM
1

lmfao that’s when i hand her a toothbrush
/r/seduction20/07/22 03:57 PM
1

i believe you
/r/seduction20/07/22 03:56 PM
1

dude i mean you shouldn’t be explicitly saying those things if she’s not your gf. should’ve been cool about it. also tend to try to kiss the girl in the middle of the date at the end it’s always kind of awkward
/r/seduction20/07/22 03:50 PM
2

yeah totally i get you
/r/seduction20/07/22 03:45 PM
2

honestly once i started approaching i was surprised by how good girls reacted to me. my biggest issue was actually prematurely ejecting
/r/seduction20/07/22 03:20 PM
5

dude come on everyone knows looks matter. i’m not gonna sit here and judge someone who’s really ugly and struggling. there’s ways out but they shouldn’t be belittled for being frustrated. me sitting here and judging them when i myself am good looking and have had plenty of success with women is ridiculous. i’m smart enough to recognize that without my good looks i would have a much harder time so i don’t blame someone for being upset about being in that situation that doesn’t mean they can’t hav…
/r/seduction20/07/22 03:18 PM
1

classic 😂😂😂
/r/seduction20/07/22 03:14 PM
2

well the girl is sick in the head man, but a lot of girls are just rotten now a days with their egos. You are very short and fat dude so automatically girls will find you unattractive for the most part. You have to lose the weight but some lifts and try to groom yourself as best as possible. If your chin and jaw are weak grow a beard using midoxinil, if your forehead is big comb your hair forward, if the back of your head is bit grow your hair out. work to maximize your looks before approaching …
/r/seduction20/07/22 03:10 PM
2

just don’t be obvious, wait till a good set passes by and figure out a good method of approach, rather than yad stopping and creeping out every girl in the mall
/r/seduction20/07/22 05:32 AM
4

nice dude and you opened the right way situational keep it up
/r/seduction19/07/22 04:45 PM
1

Yeah I will but i’m fairly sure this is a scam, it’s just a very intricate scam cuz she’s been texting me all day and stuff
/r/seduction19/07/22 04:23 AM
2

ohhh shit that makes a lot sense. i wouldn’t be surprised tbh. she’s probably real because she sends me pretty specific pictures but is probably just scamming people herself lmfao i can get girls this caliber but not like this. usually in person first, through friends, social value etc. not on an app. thanks for the heads up.
/r/seduction19/07/22 04:19 AM
1

I told her the 29th and she said yeah, so it’s kinda solid. naw when a girl flakes on me like that it’s usually a dead lead
/r/seduction19/07/22 03:22 AM
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I think it depends. If you meet in person you can probably pull a girl 1-2 points above you. more than that id say it would just be luck more realistically, you will be able to pull without too much trouble girls 1-2 points below online people tend to, and i say tend cuz it’s not always the case, but tend to want to date people at their looks level or higher
/r/seduction19/07/22 02:30 AM
2

sure yeah, she’s a busy girl. I guess its just cuz I feel like she’s way out of my league but i’ll give it a shot anyways
/r/seduction19/07/22 02:28 AM
1

no cuz you can escalate from hand holding to kissing to pulling in the middle of convo which will jncrease her attraction and give her the opportunity to go home with you even if she’s not totally sold
/r/seduction19/07/22 01:48 AM
2

bro i don’t understand this shit i’m tripping out but i’ll take your advice 😂 she’s super hot though and wealthy, so i’m just gonna push through no expectations and if it happens great if not i’ll move on doesn’t matter either way. i’ll probably be more balsy because of it which could actually help me
/r/seduction19/07/22 01:47 AM
3

i mean i have nothing to lose i’m banging another girl too, but this girl is like so weird. she’s sending me pics of making fucking bread off crypto and seems really interested, but like she knows i’m nothing special lol just your typical white dude, i mean i make edm which is cool and she’s asian and i know they love white guys, but it’s still weird
/r/seduction19/07/22 01:43 AM
2

uh yeah that’s obvious
/r/seduction19/07/22 01:28 AM
4

no dude lmfao if it feels creepy it’s cuz it is creepy, look into their eyes but then cut your gaze away every few seconds and then come back to them so it’s not super awk
/r/seduction18/07/22 11:24 PM
1

not really just come up with an excuse. the problem with not having a place and stuff is with the real high quality girls where you gotta go all out. for the most part of the girl is below my mate value they’ve gone so far as to pay for eve thing and invite me over.
/r/seduction18/07/22 10:37 PM
7

cope looks so matter but you can punch above your weight or at your weight by cold approaching
/r/seduction18/07/22 08:45 PM
8

umm this was from 21-27 which is my age now the older you are the hardest is it to be living at home though lol i’m moving out in a few months
/r/seduction18/07/22 07:30 PM
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i’ve fucked 10 girls and always lived at home. just gotta pull to their crib or if they’re young run it in the car lmao
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:52 PM
1

cuz it’s funny
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:51 PM
1

you can do it a little but if you keep doing after you have sex she’s gonna think you don’t care and just go for someone else . once your in a relationship in my experience those things don’t really matter the girl actually wants you to care
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:48 PM
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you can do it a little but if you keep doing after you have sex she’s gonna think you don’t care and just go for someone else . once your in a relationship in my experience those things don’t really matter the girl actually wants you to care
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:48 PM
1

idk bro clubs meetups orgs guys are a dime a dozen to find lol
/r/seduction18/07/22 02:48 AM
0

be alpha
/r/seduction18/07/22 02:01 AM
1

if my girl isnt 5 hours away i’m not down cuz i love the blue balls on the way up
/r/seduction18/07/22 01:59 AM
1

lmfao wat
/r/seduction18/07/22 01:58 AM
1

lmfao delete her 😂
/r/seduction18/07/22 01:57 AM
1

Work on the bulge
/r/seduction18/07/22 01:55 AM
1

umm you know a lot of times guys aren’t expecting you to say yes and when you do they reconsider but like most girls i’ve actually liked online if they tell me no to meeting up i kinda just quit. if they say yes and i like them i’ll say yes idk it has nothing to do with playing hard to get for me it just has to do with whether i’m actually attracted to the girl or just spamming messages
/r/seduction18/07/22 01:42 AM
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lmfao same
/r/seduction18/07/22 01:40 AM
1

i mean my friends have told me they didn’t notice until i mentioned it months later. and i’ve worn them and banged girls and then stayed with them and they never knew. so this is just my experience and like i said it depends how big they are
/r/seduction18/07/22 12:38 AM
2

she seems like shes allowing you to push forward the interaction, that’s not bad, maybe she’s kinda proude? that’s not bad either, just be cool tn and don’t ask her or tell her you wanna kiss her or talk about it, just go for it if she looks at you in that way where you know they’d let you kiss them, try to hold her hand first etc be cool don’t object be like yeah gotcha and then try again lol it’ll be a bit funny actually
/r/seduction17/07/22 08:35 PM
1

you should try even if it’s just a bunch of guys. my social life is probably one of the biggest reasons why the women that do decide to be with me tend to fall for me really hard
/r/seduction17/07/22 02:26 PM
1

i would’ve loved this advice in HS haha
/r/seduction17/07/22 01:41 PM
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relax bro don’t be cold approaching ANYONE or using ANY cringe game in HS people will notice and make fun of you. I repeat DO NOT use any conventional game. that’s for real steeet cold approach where you can fuck up and no one cared and even then you should be going indirect for high success rates anyways use indirect game, just if you have a girl in class or in the hallways that you known is in your grade or class ask about class (always different questions and not so often it’s obvious, should…
/r/seduction17/07/22 01:32 PM
2

thanks for the award you the man 😎
/r/seduction17/07/22 01:25 PM
1

i met mine but she told me she was insane and then eventually proved to me she was insane cuz i didn’t believe her lol. anyways i loved that about her, and i do think she was my match. just wish she could’ve contained her craziness and not left me the way she did. even tho i kinda deserved it
/r/seduction17/07/22 05:46 AM
3

if you don’t go beyond 2.8 inches no it’s not noticeable, i take them on and off around girls literally in front of them and they don’t notice. but it helps because with them on i’m taller than 80% of girls at 5’7 and that’s all that really matters
/r/seduction17/07/22 05:39 AM
1

only a gay person would say all this
/r/seduction17/07/22 12:25 AM
3

lmao whenever i say that to girls it’s just an excuse
/r/seduction16/07/22 05:51 PM
1

ok bro the only advice i can give you is, either flirt more with them or build more rappor before asking them out, or build up your social media etc, OR you can just try to take them on an insta date, without actually asking them on a date. hey wanna keep me company and grab a coffee i’m waiting for my cousin (lie) then you build rappor, flirt (an sample is just non verbal like mirroring movements or smiling a lot at each other or a verbal example can be like why are you looking at me like that …
/r/seduction16/07/22 05:11 PM
1

so by asking out you mean asking out on a date?
/r/seduction16/07/22 05:04 PM
0

did you kiss them and escalate before asking them out? you should first hold their hand then kiss them then either try to close or at that point ask them out, you shouldn’t be planetonic with a girl at the moment of asking them out
/r/seduction16/07/22 04:48 PM
0

I feel like logistics is the biggest thing. Like having a crib nearby so you can try to pull girls
/r/seduction16/07/22 04:05 PM
1

Look man the only way you’ll know if you’re good looking is how women react to you. If they’re giddy and super nice and like giving you signs then you’re good looking. If they’re not they’re either taken or you’re not good looking. You’ll know objectively by how strangers (women) treat you
/r/seduction16/07/22 04:04 PM
16

nice bro this is a legendary field report
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:52 PM
2

same. most people don’t get pussy at a young age. but honestly after i turned 21 i went from a single body count to 10 in like 5 years, relax and take it easy i would’ve rather fucked 3-5 quality girls than 25 low quality ones so it’s not about the quantity althought you do get bragging rights i guess
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:47 PM
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escalate bro hold her hand kiss her move her around the bar while you’re talking and then try to pull her home while you ask her for logistics, if you’re doing all this you’ll already consume at least 30 min - 1 hr conversation in which you can transition to your crib or set up a time for a date and number close
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:47 PM
4

i’m using these lines 😂😂😂
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:44 PM
10

yep. i’m 5’4 and i’ve had 3 really hot gfs. i 2 of them in person. i’ve been with 10 girls. yes i am white and good looking facially, but my jawline is pretty weak, so i grew out a beard using midoxinil and girls treat me wayyyy better now. i also wear 2.5 inch lifts to get me to 5’7. night and day difference. get some nice lifts and try to either grow a beard or if you have a big forehead comb your hair forward or if you have a bit skull like me grow out your hair etc. these little things will …
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:43 PM
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bruh Jmulv is ugly af and at 6’4 he’s banged like a billion girls dude probably has aids you got this get your game clutched up! use indirect game btw look it up direct game doesn’t work for me
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:39 PM
8

lmfao welcome friend buckle up dating in 2022 for men is cancer
/r/seduction16/07/22 02:24 AM
3

honestly i’ve fucked lots of girls at my crib and just had a gf. that being said it does hurt but only on the first bang. take them to a hotel or rent a place with a bunch of friends to cut cost. either way this is not a bad time to not be living out cuz prices are sky high and lots of girls are living with their parents. it’s very understandable right now to be saving money also my friend has never lived alone and fucked like 35-40 girls. try to go for younger girls older ones i think asume you…
/r/seduction16/07/22 02:22 AM
8

same most of the hot girls i dated were all from in person contact
/r/seduction15/07/22 08:37 PM
1

lmao that’s called learning game. being natural is another wya to say good looking and doesn’t have to do much to get a girl
/r/seduction15/07/22 01:34 PM
3

try to find a more populated well lit area to game on your way home, find the spot with most volume and use it to your advantage
/r/seduction15/07/22 01:30 PM
1

nah chill some girls don’t text much i’m like that sometimes too
/r/seduction15/07/22 01:23 PM
2

I have three times, once i fell in love, but sadly i couldn’t handle her having dated my old best friend and had to break things off. nonetheless i feel your pain, only one of those turned out long term and it was my first gf. the issue is most girls that will be into you online are well beneath your mate value, and usually we wind up really liking girls at or above our mate value OR if you share a lot of history like my recent ex… wish she hadn’t been so crazy :/
/r/seduction15/07/22 01:22 PM
1

yeah!!! i noticed that myself recently too (after i grew out my new beard wohoo) in fact i was talking to some girl the other day and she started mirroring my movements and everything, i used to be so clueless about that stuff lol i wonder if it’s cuz most girls would treat me that way so i thought it was normal, and only now realize they don’t treat ugly dudes or dudes they don’t like that way they just look at them cold most of the time or are slightly nice but not giving signals
/r/seduction15/07/22 01:11 PM
1

yeah it is your game lol i’ve never been approach tbh but i’ve had hot gfs
/r/seduction14/07/22 10:38 PM
1

daygame cold approach
/r/seduction14/07/22 09:16 PM
1

start asking questions talking to shop owners getting yourself warmed up, find a wing, have a light drink if you need it, then once you do your first you’ll realize it’s no big deal. try not to be too direct if you’re afraid of rejection, ease your way into it.
/r/seduction14/07/22 04:59 PM
1

it’s ok buddy i’m 5’4 🙃
/r/seduction14/07/22 04:57 PM
1

yeahhhh bro wtf i always just go for drinks alone and switch to another bar after 20-40 minutes and then walk around and close at the car makes it feel like multiple dates in one
/r/seduction14/07/22 03:20 PM
5

You just have to be 5’9 if you’re 5’7 you can wear lifts above 5’9 if you aren’t getting play you’re either unnatractive facially or your game is wack
/r/seduction14/07/22 02:56 PM
2

are you being too pushy? you should mentioned we can go back to my crib i make really good (insert food here), and if she says no just immediately change topics into cooking it shouldn’t be a red flag though tbh but i guess you can try not doing that next time idk
/r/seduction14/07/22 02:54 PM
1

i mean i tend to keep girls easy cuz i have a great social life and i’m generally a really cool interesting guy (lots of hobbies). also, are you closing the girls? you have to actually try and bring them over or bang them in the car in my experience work on becoming more interesting and fun and having a social circle and girls will probably want to stick around to experience it
/r/seduction14/07/22 12:34 PM
3

I mean at least you’re getting matches and dates. I used to get matches and now my tinder is dead. OLD went to shit. Be grateful you’re good looking enough to score a date you even like
/r/seduction14/07/22 11:56 AM
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i would actually think it hurts because while some girls may like it you’ll have a bunch of girls auto reject you for them. also most tats look bad imo (bad designs), and once it’s inked it’s inked. i’d be careful and get something really nice if you’re actually gonna do it which probably means a nice sleeve
/r/seduction14/07/22 03:14 AM
1

cope
/r/seduction13/07/22 08:15 PM
2

do you usually send messages or just like pictures without a message? not sure how to go about it tbh
/r/seduction13/07/22 01:20 PM
5

well a lot of girls are like that, they’re just super in their phones and stuff. i’m not a fan of it, i’ve been with both types of girls. i’d definitely rather the type that just doesn’t have much social media or isn’t constantly on it
/r/seduction13/07/22 01:19 PM
1

tinder and school
/r/seduction12/07/22 10:32 PM
2

it’s not bad you’ll just be taking a risk basically that’s up to you
/r/seduction12/07/22 09:19 PM
9

why don’t you open a conversationb with them and then don’t close it, the next time you see them just wave at them maybe, theme eventually it’ll be a warm approach “hey i remember you how you been” from there you can time every few sessions using a machine shes one after her to strike conversation and eventually close and it should be super smooth don’t be cringy and try to do everything at once or else she’ll remember you next time cuz gyms are relatively “small”
/r/seduction12/07/22 05:00 PM
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i’m 5’4 and i’ve fucked 10 girls. some of them super hot. i’ve been called a liar “that’s impossible” “you’re a troll” lmao no i’m not a troll, I am good looking and white though
/r/seduction12/07/22 02:10 PM
1

yeah it’s called your genes
/r/seduction12/07/22 02:09 PM
2

Proceeds to Yad stomp and spit direct cringe game all over london 😂
/r/seduction12/07/22 02:08 PM
6

lmfao
/r/seduction12/07/22 02:07 PM
5

yeah shoe lifts, it’s super cool because as long as you don’t break 3 inches people won’t notice, i’ve literally gone on dates pulled and banged the girl and just walk around without shoes after and they have no clue
/r/seduction12/07/22 11:58 AM
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lmaooooo the stereotype is true brutalllll don’t worry i’m white and i love asians lol just hit on some white dudes
/r/seduction12/07/22 11:57 AM
9

buy some lifts instead. coming from a midget
/r/seduction12/07/22 04:09 AM
8

you forgot the ultimate sarging solo daygame
/r/seduction12/07/22 12:33 AM
1

lmao what
/r/seduction11/07/22 08:20 PM
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Looks matter a lot and so does height, yet i’ve been with 10 girls at 5’4. It means that while it does matter it doesn’t count you out, and tinder isn’t real life. Real life cold approach and warm approach will net you girls well above your level. It may seem impossible but once you really start approaching properly and sensing the signs in women you will have success. I grew a beard and got some lifts so I now stand at 5’7 when i’m out. night and day difference with how women treat me (my jawli…
/r/seduction11/07/22 08:19 PM
2

yah you’re shooting up i think and maybe you’re gunning out of your league doesn’t mean you shouldn’t keep trying are you social? a good social life goes a long way in a woman wanting to stay with you
/r/seduction11/07/22 04:30 PM
6

you should know girls get giddy and stuff around me when they’re attracted and i can always tell
/r/seduction11/07/22 04:28 PM
3

lmao yeah dude these guys are telling you he totally got roped by his gf and had to cut the flirting to not get in trouble. he’s probably thinking about it. give him time if he really likes you he’ll eventually break it off with his gf
/r/seduction11/07/22 03:48 PM
4

you don’t want a girl like that. my ex was like that. she just didn’t believe i loved her and wound up leaving town. she was crazy. don’t do it bro
/r/seduction11/07/22 02:46 PM
10

i mean maybe his gf noticed something was up, it’s kinda hard to hide that stuff and texts and whatnot from your gf i’m ngl
/r/seduction11/07/22 02:45 PM
9

populated areas? you gotta live in a big city for the best results
/r/seduction11/07/22 02:16 PM
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lmao girls love what they can’t have huh 😂 he’s definitely into you but probably feels bad about cheating on his girl or leaving her
/r/seduction11/07/22 02:15 PM
1

yeah but only if you go indirect. go direct and you’ll get blown out a million times over. yeah it’s harder but just be smart try to see if the girl is interested and when you go to close her she’ll know what’s up. no girl is gonna stay there talking bullshit with you unless she’s somewhat interested. good luck
/r/seduction11/07/22 01:31 PM
1

yeah keep in mind bro people eventually settle down. I am starting some intense daygame runs but in the end i do believe in marriage and i want to find someone special and settle down. game is just a part of the journey
/r/seduction11/07/22 01:29 PM
3

YES BRO i’m person my gfs have been HOT man HOT online i don’t even get matches anymore lmfao it’s a troll cuz i’m legit 7/10 facially minimum
/r/seduction11/07/22 01:26 PM
1

yeah that’s true nonetheless i’ve been lucky enough to build a strong core of best friends, however it took me meeting 500+ people to meet them and it was only at the very end of my time in college so i got very lucky. Almost everyone else definitely i see less frequently and i’m sure that will continue as they age
/r/seduction10/07/22 02:46 PM
3

you have aids now
/r/seduction10/07/22 01:55 PM
1

lmao what no way dude i might comment on their profile but asking them out right away will get you blow out most of the time
/r/seduction09/07/22 08:24 PM
2

love it man just remember to keep it cool and escalate smoothly don’t fall for any cringy tactics or shitty advice example: don’t run todd valentine cringe lmfao you are doing well and being so young be sure not to “devolve” your game with bad advice from shittt you tubers and coaches
/r/seduction09/07/22 07:43 PM
1

i don’t say too much sexual stuff in convos tbh i don’t feel it’s necessary if you’re properly escalating and by that i don’t mean making out in public necessarily, i mean slowly escalating into holding their hand or isolating them giving them a kiss sometimes instead of a sexual innuendo i just tell them something like “oh so you’re gonna flirt with me and not walk me to my car” or something like that insinuating that there’s a sexual/emltional connection between us
/r/seduction09/07/22 06:11 PM
1

i probably wouldn’t call them on the spot cuz it seems as if you’re needy and trying hard, which could lead them to think you’re gonna annoy them
/r/seduction09/07/22 06:09 PM
1

yeah it depends a little bit yes but too much and they’ll just move on
/r/seduction09/07/22 06:01 PM
2

don’t temp me with a good time ;)
/r/seduction09/07/22 06:00 PM
1

yeah most guys aren’t there for just sex but when there’s so many options you really can’t know. i’ve had sex and dipped on my fair share so i understand why they might be hesitant to keep going since a lot of guys will lead them on and they just won’t know until the guy dips
/r/seduction09/07/22 05:59 PM
5

whoa was not expecting you to be married haha
/r/seduction09/07/22 03:47 PM
3

yeah dude to be fair the most consistent place to meet people is work, and jobs that expose you to a lot of people. thankfully im going into a field that has that, but for now i’ll try to find other avenues also personally i do have an awesome social life, but i don’t necessarily meet new girls from it. what it does do though is any girl that gets to know me a little and comes out with me falls madly in love with me because they see how popular i am how many friends i have and how much fun we ha…
/r/seduction09/07/22 03:45 PM
1

yeah actually i’m going back to school right now and it’s been AMAZING. holy crap so many girls and so many are super into me. it’s so different when you’re in a warm environment, i’m glad i’m getting into a field with lots of women not really to play the field but so i actually have a chance of meeting someone special. nonetheless i’m gonna keep cold approaching as a supplement because while cold approaching is harder, once mastered, it is an extremely powerful tool you’re totally right about g…
/r/seduction09/07/22 02:52 PM
1

it is superficial, but looks are also superficial. girls want the full package. obviously not all of them, cuz there are girls on the apps. the only reason i would say it sucks for them is what my ex from tinder told me herself, most of the guys there she’s willing to date are above the looks threshold and she is unsure whether they will actually commit or not so she doesn’t really use tinder anymore. There’s a lot of girls that don’t and I assume it must be because of this. Just getting burned …
/r/seduction09/07/22 02:49 PM
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we’ll i’ve worked hard and impressed hot girls, and had sex with them. so yes. if it was only ugly girls then probably not no now how often i get those girls is the problem, very infrequent
/r/seduction09/07/22 02:14 PM
2

same. i hate that depressed feeling after a night out that doesn’t go well. i’d rather just spend the night with my friends and game during the day
/r/seduction09/07/22 02:06 PM
4

don’t forget to escalate. try to memorize and practice 5-8 topics and between every 2 topics insert some escalation “let’s take a shot” / hold her hand / kiss her / “after party” / try to pull to your car / come walk me out / etc don’t just get lost in a convo to nowhere
/r/seduction09/07/22 02:04 PM
2

to be fair bro it’s not about the quality of your pictures, it’s about the quality of your face lmao and your height. a girl doesn’t give a shit if you took the picture with a potato so long as you’re hot
/r/seduction09/07/22 02:03 PM
3

to be honest bro sex is happening anywhere work/school is occurring, if you’re not one of the ones that’s on you, but depending on the number of people the higher the number the more sex is happening is just a matter of stats
/r/seduction09/07/22 02:00 PM
10

it’s the curse of being a male species, competition is so intense right now. seriously the fact that my OLD profile is dead is so crazy to me cuz i really used to do so well. we don’t have a choice in the matter tho, just gotta keep grinding
/r/seduction09/07/22 01:57 PM
1

I don’t understand that he problem though. Dating is NOT linear, it will vary based on your looks. That’s how it works in the animal kingdom. Fitness. If you’re ignorant to it you’re ignorant to it but it’s still there. I CAN approach, and I have had success with women but I am good looking (albeit not very tall). This means I am in a position to cold approach, mostly daygame. Some people are on another level and they sometimes just realize that their looks will make things really hard and bent …
/r/seduction08/07/22 10:51 AM
2

why don’t you ask them who’s playing next maybe introduce yourself then if they’re into you keep spitting and usually they’re off the molly so you can just escalate
/r/seduction07/07/22 04:15 AM
3

it’s not about gimmicks though. it’s about just genuinely feeling out your vibe and whether you’re cool or not, not fucking todds cringe daygame i can’t even watch a full infield from that dude and i followed him for years till i realized he’s a cringefest
/r/seduction07/07/22 03:28 AM
2

i’ve never had a girl cheat on me cuz i’m not a guy worth cheating on and i don’t date hoes? you should know by a girls character and whether you’re really a guy that’s cool and worth dating.
/r/seduction07/07/22 03:27 AM
3

this dude is woke, you know what you’re talking about my fellow hunter. i thjnk it takes a very high level of game and a lot of failure with direct approaches to realize this isn’t the way, and find a more scientific approach like what we have. takes a lot more brainpower to formulate cuz it’s sneaky, but in the end imo much more effective
/r/seduction07/07/22 03:25 AM
1

this is interesting. i really do hope my 30s bring success with women. my 20s have been very limited albeit i still hit a 10 count. nonetheless i could see my 30s, with much more wealth power and status, (not to mention women becoming more realistic in their standads), to hopefully be much better
/r/seduction06/07/22 05:55 PM
8

lmfao dude of course that’s a darse. what they’re trying to say is if you make money and have a job you’re happy with when you meet a women she’ll be more attracted to you. but you need to expose yourself to meeting women in the first place for that to happen
/r/seduction06/07/22 11:45 AM
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being direct is for really good looking people. why don’t you try other opening lines, something more relevant or situational. if the girl is into you she’ll keep the convo if not she’ll just leave. she’s not stupid
/r/seduction06/07/22 03:52 AM
2

idk i guess just ask like hey is it cool if i shoot a call later something along those lines maybe, if she’s sketchy about it don’t worry but some girls are down and it’s like an extra date almost and if they keep calling you you’ll build a really strong connection
/r/seduction05/07/22 10:26 PM
2

it happens bro sometimes if i don’t kiss or close the girls my odds of a second date start being pretty low. other times i try to set up a phone call after the date so we can just all shit a little and setting up the next date is more natural
/r/seduction05/07/22 09:02 PM
1

yeah this is so true i wish i had a dog go to dog parks or walk it around and hit on girls. easy indirect open heaven
/r/seduction05/07/22 08:51 PM
1

why regret a relationship? there’s no guarantee you would’ve gotten play unless you’re very attractive, it’s better to have had a relationship than to have been alone
/r/seduction04/07/22 11:46 PM
1

open with indirect observations, like the guy that mentioned oh do you like how ironed my shirt lmao the point is it was indirect so it wasn’t cringy and then he just assumed attraction and kept talking to her
/r/seduction04/07/22 11:45 PM
3

are you a girl? lmao download tinder that’s about all you need
/r/seduction04/07/22 11:43 PM
8

my thing rn is i don’t have a crib to pull to but if we’re making out hard in my car and she doesn’t have a place i’ve boned lots of girls in the car which is pretty crazy come to think of it. sometimes you just have to escalate and they’ll go with it. definitely not about what they say but what they feel at the moment
/r/seduction04/07/22 07:24 PM
3

yeah it’s terrible advice. you gotta go out with a plan and strategy and execute. no one passes school tests by having fun and showing up lit to the exam
/r/seduction04/07/22 07:23 PM
2

i’m a struggling starved by choice, but i’ve been with 10 girls in my 20s. would’ve rather been with 2-3 consistently, rather than 10 random ones but i do take pride in the fact that if i’ve been with 10 girls i know i can get girls and i feel proud of that. nonetheless i gy most from online dating and the best ones from in person so try to be as involved in school as you can and try to maximize your looks with a beard, lifts and proper haircut if your forehead is big etc
/r/seduction04/07/22 07:20 PM
2

no because as a man my values align with apologizing over what i did. but that’s just me cuz i don’t want a girl that plays stupid games. my exes weren’t restarted like she was
/r/seduction04/07/22 01:42 PM
7

i would keep going on about one or two topics and if she’s still there she likes you so just tell her that you maybe did need to know but you asked her cuz you wanted to talk to her / are into her props on the indirect open. this is the way.
/r/seduction04/07/22 07:19 AM
2

just cold approach cops? lmfao offer her to smoke a blizzy build comfort hold frame
/r/seduction04/07/22 07:18 AM
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just cuz you got to know him through “warm aporoaching” basically and grew to love his traits most women will only judge based on the initial impression and women are very picky at those “cold” scenarios so men’s self esteem drops significantly, for example tinder he’s internalizing this and giving himself the lowest realistic rating from the eyes of a women in a “cold” scenario only one of my exes was from tinder, the other two came from life experiences and they saw me the way you see him, hen…
/r/seduction04/07/22 07:16 AM
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depends how much you liked your ex. i only miss mine cuz i’m lonely really. we got along really well and i miss that too but she wasn’t right for me. having another quality girl would take the pain away from me in my scenario, but time has seriously made a huge difference regardless
/r/seduction04/07/22 07:13 AM
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don’t be a zombie women are people you don’t have to apologize for approaching or stupid shit but if you fuck up something in a relationship be a human and apologize. apologizing backfired on my ex but idc she’s a stupid bitch for not seeing or appreciating the genuine apology i gave her
/r/seduction04/07/22 07:11 AM
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exactly 😂 i’m growing out my beard now with midox and hopefully that will kick me up the point i need in looks
/r/seduction04/07/22 07:09 AM
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yeah coffee is weird bro ngl just say drinks
/r/seduction04/07/22 12:24 AM
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are you saying my 7 inch cock is too big?
/r/seduction03/07/22 10:50 PM
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right it’s all relative but we’re still in the same position. i know i can do better so i strive to at least be with a girl that matched my exes
/r/seduction03/07/22 10:49 PM
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honestly man i’m in this boat and so many other people are. it’s depressing because you feel like “oh i’m never gonna get a girl etc” but the truth is we DO get girls and lots of them. i have so many options really, the problem is i just want a girl i’m really attracted to and i really like, and girls like that aren’t easy to obtain
/r/seduction03/07/22 09:22 PM
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take it easy man. you can literally go to another country and get a lot of girls. work on yourself earn money and find those opportunities. women get easier as you get older. plenty to enjoy in life besides women
/r/seduction03/07/22 06:34 PM
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what kind of places would you go to regularly?
/r/seduction03/07/22 06:31 PM
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dude you’re gonna get all kind of ridiculous answers here. but i’m gonna be real with you. i’m 5’4, and i’ve been with 10 girls. some people say it’s impossible but it’s true. then again my front facial profile is very attractive, my side profile is pretty bad. i’ve been growing out a beard to make up for it. you’ll need to see the flaws in your face and if there are soft changes you can make (ex. big forehead wear a headband or comb your hair down etc) your ethinicity will make a different depe…
/r/seduction03/07/22 06:22 PM
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well you’re not wrong. for example i’ve taken several months to focus on growing my beard before approaching again because my chin/jaw is very flawed but would look great with a beard. then i can try again. i also make more money and have strong interesting hobbies. it is about looks but you can max them out in a few ways: chin jaw with beard (use midox) big forehead with combing hair down and short or headband bad skull with long hair height with lifts etc etc. if all that fails then surgery if…
/r/seduction02/07/22 08:11 PM
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i mean maybe that’s you but i like to actually have a structure and plan when i go out. i take my time at home to pretend i’m talking to a wall for at least 30 minutes and get a decent loose script down so when i go in i’m not just retarded. maybe it’s cuz i’m older and i’ve spammed approached enough and i’m tired of that style
/r/seduction02/07/22 08:08 PM
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i don’t think there is such thing unless you go overseas, poorer countries etc, or countries where you are exotic.
/r/seduction02/07/22 03:14 PM
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jesus what’s up with all these 6’3 dudes complaining lmao at that point it’s just a numbers game unless you’re ugly. I’m short and moderately good looking so I go indirect. Everyone will tell you not to but it works for me. Never have approach anxiety. Only thing is you lose a lot of sets that don’t wanna interact after the initial question but that’s normal people are busy. You won’t indícate premise (aka i think your cute etc) but it’s implied unless they’re stupid because you’re both sticking…
/r/seduction02/07/22 01:50 PM
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it is getting more common, but it doesn’t mean that girls prefer a tinder meet story over a real life meeting story.
/r/seduction02/07/22 01:46 PM
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low key i know the answer is run but seeing as this guy is not really in a position to lose here i would do the same and just wait. he can just game other girls while he waits. if you just break it off with the girl you won’t actually get anything in return except maybe a little piece of mind?
/r/seduction02/07/22 01:45 PM
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why cold approach at work? why not just warm approach, ask some questions about the building introduce yourself etc
/r/seduction01/07/22 05:20 PM
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hey man my first gf was like that too, it was special. doesn’t mean she was the one for me though. i certainly hope to find something similar but it will always be different because we’re not kids anymore doesn’t mean it’s not better just different
/r/seduction01/07/22 05:19 PM
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believe it or not i heard from a girl i recently dated something as simple as: “i hate the idea of meeting on tinder” she doesn’t use it and we didn’t meet on tinder we already knew each other i think girls standards are getting SO high that they not only want to meet a good guy but also want a good backstory maybe i’m wrong though
/r/seduction01/07/22 01:13 PM
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i got a date the other day but then again i’ve really optimize my profile a lot and before i wasn’t getting many matches so just keep working on your job, hobbies etc the higher value the are and the more casually oh can convey them in your profile the more matches you’ll get generally speaking (i am decently good looking though so keep that in mind)
/r/seduction01/07/22 01:11 PM
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casually throwing out savage ass stats
/r/seduction01/07/22 01:08 PM
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bro sounds like my ex run away she was crazy and the moment things got rocky she left the city sporadically it was heartbreaking
/r/seduction30/06/22 01:13 PM
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lmao seriously you’re a piece of shit dude no wonder women don’t like you
/r/seduction29/06/22 08:20 PM
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you’re a joke saying something like that to someone who’s been through so much. you deserve your pussy ass depression and lack of success i got through it all because of my mental resilience and yeah i manned up to my problems and i’ve had success with women friendships you made it through my depression.
/r/seduction29/06/22 06:19 PM
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bro i’ve survived cancer had transplants lost them got intubated with covid you name it but that’s doesn’t mean I come up with excuses life is hard and yes you can be depressed but you don’t have to let that consume your interactions if you don’t want it to or use that as an excuse for failing or deciding to do nothing
/r/seduction28/06/22 10:08 PM
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yeah stop making excuses
/r/seduction28/06/22 09:05 PM
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man up
/r/seduction28/06/22 02:17 PM
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biggest thing dude is if you’re getting a lot of eye contact and stares from girls just go up to them that’s an easy kill otherwise you can go indirect if you’re too nervous. they’ll know you’re hitting on them so it’s the same in a sense
/r/seduction27/06/22 06:16 AM
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if you’re staring at each other it’s easy, just be like are you just gonna stare at me or are we gonna talk, some shit like that just say hey cuz they obviously like you girls will avoid eye contact with guys they don’t want cuz they don’t want to be approached
/r/seduction27/06/22 01:32 AM
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indirect daygame if you’re nervous you don’t need a wingman
/r/seduction27/06/22 01:28 AM
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idk bro but i think some form of social media is better than just text if you barely speak and don’t have much rapport
/r/seduction27/06/22 01:19 AM
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dude no there is no shadow an tinder just works very slowly now. i get matches just at a slower rate than before. improve your profile. the more you restart it the more the girls in your area keep seeing it and keep swiping left.
/r/seduction26/06/22 02:34 PM
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snapchat can be really great for building up value and then like replying to their story or sending them something and seeing if it goes from there cuz getting no response on snap is normal and actually expected
/r/seduction26/06/22 11:52 AM
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you should try to get as involved as you can on campus and with school clubs or orgs
/r/seduction25/06/22 08:02 PM
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lmao no bro plenty of girls have fallen in love with me and i’ve been nothing but good to them
/r/seduction25/06/22 07:59 PM
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ah it’s ok bro sometimes girls just aren’t into it. sometimes you need to be a little more subtle you know
/r/seduction25/06/22 02:37 PM
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it was only one. idk. we just got along really well. shared lots of memories. she had loved me for so long, like since she was a kid, i think i felt that and wound up sharing it with her. things didn’t work out but, it was pretty amazing
/r/seduction25/06/22 04:16 AM
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yeah this is usually something controller by the states so not much will probably change in the near future
/r/seduction25/06/22 02:45 AM
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I mean I’ve dated girls where i loved them because they were my long time friend and i eventually grew to fall in love with her. idk why I just did even though I wasn’t necessarily expecting it
/r/seduction25/06/22 02:44 AM
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i thought this same thing before i even scrolled to the comments 😂😂
/r/seduction25/06/22 12:02 AM
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even on tinder you have to escalate the interactions talk on the phone and try to meet them online otherwise you’re the one they will consider being weird just talking to them with no progress
/r/seduction24/06/22 09:00 PM
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lmfao at making out with her on three dates and not boning 😂 what you’re saying IS true, having friends and a good lifestyle can be important in really making a girl fall for you but not in this situation
/r/seduction24/06/22 08:53 PM
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hold frame
/r/seduction24/06/22 08:51 PM
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Yo it happens bro. but don’t push it now just work on yourself. you don’t have to confess feelings, if you’re with her and the back of your hands graze for example and the girl is close to you and not moving away just hold her hand. the only time a girl will hold your hand is if they like you. that’s all you need tbh
/r/seduction24/06/22 08:46 PM
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lmfaoo
/r/seduction24/06/22 08:45 PM
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well i knew her for 13 years so i don’t regret it. i loved her and it was worth trying. unfortunately things didn’t work out
/r/seduction24/06/22 02:54 PM
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cocaine
/r/seduction24/06/22 01:40 AM
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ny must be wild for game
/r/seduction24/06/22 01:40 AM
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lmao idk my ex was crazy
/r/seduction24/06/22 01:40 AM
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yeah way too long. but calling them on the phone periodically can help. maybe she’ll even grow into your personality over the phone
/r/seduction23/06/22 12:39 PM
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I mean I appreciate the advice all well written but are you actually going on dates with these girls/closing/getting relationships from them? or are 99% of them flaking
/r/seduction23/06/22 12:35 PM
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I mean it may be controversial but white guys usually have an easier time with any other ethnicity. darker girls tend to like white guys a lot. TEND TO, certainly not the norm, som ethnic girls want to date guys their own race out of preference or to fit in with their families
/r/seduction23/06/22 12:32 PM
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that’s right all the guys in jail basically gave up and they get laid on the regular in there
/r/seduction23/06/22 12:20 PM
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good to know people are succeeding from cold approach
/r/seduction23/06/22 12:18 PM
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lmao just don’t be me bro. don’t reject her and regret it later. id give it a shot
/r/seduction23/06/22 12:14 PM
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why don’t you focus on clubs, school events, classroom whatsapp chats etc and see if you find something more organic there. even if you don’t go to the school pretend you do. you’re 18 and super young meeting people like should feel very natural at your age
/r/seduction23/06/22 12:14 PM
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To be fair you gotta have a bit of money to nigjtgame. For example I would’ve talked some more and then offered to take some shots, then maybe offered them to smoke a joint in my car, then if you have a crib invite them over. Without those steps you can number close but having more money and resources (enough to buy a drink, have a car, have a hotel or crib to pull to) will elevate your chances. I like Jmulv‘s stuff for nightgame. Yeah he’s tall but he’s ugly like a rat so his game is pretty gre…
/r/seduction23/06/22 12:10 PM
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not a problem i’m a DJ and I even produce. when i go to parties I kill it. I just need to find more of them lol. Any tips? Maybe I should go on instagram and offer my services for free to guys that seem to be partying/promoting
/r/seduction23/06/22 12:05 PM
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i match with hot girls but they never reply. i’ll get maybe a match a day? but i used to do much better, recently it’s just trickles with no reply
/r/seduction23/06/22 12:21 AM
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you don’t have to cheat on your girl to meet new people and grow your social circle so if and when you break up you have options to go for
/r/seduction22/06/22 10:35 PM
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I mean i’ve been with girls way hotter than me but that doesn’t mean looks don’t matter lol they definitely do, in the sense that they make things easier or remove a lot of rejections that would otherwise occur
/r/seduction22/06/22 10:30 PM
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I like this. thanks for the info. It seems accurate, I wouldn’t mind punching at my weight or a scale down. I just find online the girls are just several scales down and it’s too much. I do well in social circles and can pull girls much higher than me in warm approaches at events and such
/r/seduction22/06/22 10:28 PM
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why don’t you try opening indirectly. sure they’ll know you’re hitting on them but it’ll make the starting point easier. ask for directions, pretend to be new to the area, start small talk about the city, cold read her, maybe ask her to chill and go from there i don’t get much anxiety when i go indirect
/r/seduction22/06/22 08:58 PM
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lol I had a gf in HS doesn’t mean that’s gonna be your wife, you’d be on the same boat anyways
/r/seduction22/06/22 08:56 PM
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i noticed a lot of girls just hate having the backstory of having met on tinder also where have you met your best partners cold approaching or through friends? i’ve found when i cold approach the quality of girls i wound up attracting was low
/r/seduction22/06/22 06:49 PM
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nah it depends it’s better than texting imo cuz it doesn’t leave a footprint in case i say some dumb shit
/r/seduction22/06/22 06:33 PM
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Is there any one place that you’ve met the most women at? I do this too, i feel working events can work really well on the side
/r/seduction22/06/22 06:32 PM
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lmao too bad this works cuz girls keep coming to cop = more interactions/smoke em out etc only downside is jail time whoops
/r/seduction22/06/22 02:49 PM
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as you get older dinner parties are a thing
/r/seduction22/06/22 09:11 AM
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well that’s up to you. my ex was with my old best friend and i thought i could handle it but eventually it would creep in my mind everyday that they had been together and i couldn’t mentally handle it. and that’s with them not even having sex. but the sheer thought she went down in him for years would haunt me. needless to say it didn’t work out but again that’s gonna be up to you really
/r/seduction22/06/22 09:09 AM
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yes
/r/seduction22/06/22 02:45 AM
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maybe he forgot to put 6’3 on his bio
/r/seduction22/06/22 02:44 AM
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no that’s terrible advice, practice talking to a wall and make a script dont follow it directly but at least have some idea of structure don’t be a zombie or you’ll be spam approaching and failing like an idiot like i used to
/r/seduction21/06/22 07:53 PM
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I mean she wasn’t your girlfriend so it’s not cheating let her cool off a little lol girls like a guy with options
/r/seduction21/06/22 12:10 PM
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i say hell yeah and smoke a fat one with them. i always bone girls I smoke with
/r/seduction21/06/22 12:01 PM
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This is my plan to supplement daygame good to know there are events that work
/r/seduction21/06/22 11:50 AM
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not really tend to get matches regularly, still doesn’t mean they’ll reply
/r/seduction21/06/22 11:40 AM
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yeah but it’s used a lot
/r/seduction21/06/22 11:39 AM
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since i restarted it I’ve had no luck. used to get a lot back in the day tho
/r/seduction21/06/22 06:16 AM
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jeez even i get hot matches, they don’t reply tho lmao
/r/seduction21/06/22 06:10 AM
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ok then don’t do anything lol
/r/seduction21/06/22 05:43 AM
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i’m ngl i kinda feel like they don’t. i thought this was true and changed up my profile and i’m getting a match a day. but yes it’s way worse than it used to be omg it blows now even with boosts they used to be way better
/r/seduction21/06/22 04:49 AM
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lmao you might get blasted for this tho and girls will just swipe left even if they wanted to just hookup but idk just my thoughts
/r/seduction21/06/22 04:48 AM
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never tried it but keep us posted
/r/seduction21/06/22 04:47 AM
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man up
/r/seduction21/06/22 04:43 AM
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no dude the times ive succeeded at day game i ask the girl what she sup to and go do it with her. i’ll say like oh i’m just waiting for a friend so i got a little time to kill. when ive succeeded ive actually hung out with them. one time it was a girl from the street of the bar area so it was kinda daygame and we went to denny’s and smoked and eventually smashed lol
/r/seduction21/06/22 04:42 AM
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sure but i still had a blast and i turned down a lot of low and mid tier socials cuz i didn’t vibe with the guys. i’ve met hundreds of people. but like if you don’t care then don’t do it lol
/r/seduction21/06/22 04:40 AM
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maybe a lot of people won’t share my sentiment but John Elite is amazing. really great coach for what I consider the average looking man who can’t spam approach directly and get laid. like me. i only succeed when I use indirect approaches. dude is asian so he knows how hard he has it and is open about. check out his youtube tons of free value content there straight from his product
/r/seduction21/06/22 02:37 AM
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longer stronger interaction, insta date, maybe just flat out call their cell phone or go for a phone call during text. numbers don’t mean much if your interaction wasn’t strong
/r/seduction21/06/22 02:36 AM
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dude i still chill with the 18 to 22 crowd lmao, although from this year i’m i won’t be meeting new ones. cuz my best friends are going alumn. met them all through my coed fraternity. i’m an alumni and i still get invited to all the parties. I STILL get pussy at the parties lmao. get involve bro don’t give up i’ve seen people join at 25+ without a problem. you probably won’t get into any socials but you’ll still have a great time seriously once you hit 30 that’s when you can consider yourself to…
/r/seduction21/06/22 02:32 AM
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really unstable. brought up her tattoos and asked her to cool it with them cuz she does them sporadically and shitty ugly af. literally tattoos some niggas face on herself. I was disgusted. before this tho she flipped and told me i was being too controlling blah blah. vented about some others things. she “broke down”. left town changed jobs and blocked me everywhere. she was clinically insane dude
/r/seduction21/06/22 02:30 AM
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oh boy idk but i was too honest with my ex and she couldn’t handle it lmao be easy on em with the truth pills
/r/seduction21/06/22 01:26 AM
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you can lie about your age and move close to a school dude you’re still young meet people go to college events fuck it, once you’re 29 you can give up but i partied plenty with college people at 26 ngl
/r/seduction21/06/22 01:25 AM
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nah but crazy is crazy like my ex. then again she told me she was crazy. should’ve listened to her lol
/r/seduction21/06/22 01:22 AM
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have some fun bro. you won’t get to party forever. give it a shot. take it from me i regret having been so picky these past 8 years. could’ve had some really amazing relationships plus most girls are homebody’s most of the time. once you’re actually dating her you’ll probably notice you guys mostly chill at the crib and eat out
/r/seduction21/06/22 01:21 AM
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If you’re attractive you probably ARE getting good signs from girls and not realizing it. If you were ugly you’d probably notice a significant different. Instead of considering a girls indifference as non attractive maybe you should consider that they fact they are not repulsed at first is probably because you are good looking. Not saying ugly guys can’t do well, but you’d probably notice more resistance
/r/seduction21/06/22 01:19 AM
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It helps a lot. I’m good looking, and girls react well to me when they’re into it. I do very well with warm approaches. Asians and Black girls react very positively to me because I am white ngl. However I am short, so when it comes to the cold approach I am not as quickly accepted. Lifts help a lot. Still cold approach is easiest at 5’9+ (with or without lifts) I only reach 5’7 with lifts Good game is important. If I was awkward I would get no poon. Looks and Game come hand in hand
/r/seduction21/06/22 01:16 AM
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there’s so many fraternities, they won’t care if they like you, and the lower tier fraternities won’t care. you’ll still get more pussy from being in a low tier frat than being in none. With girls you can just pretend to be drinking
/r/seduction21/06/22 12:43 AM
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if they seem happy to speak to me I go direct, if not i go indirect ask questions and then go from there. some people won’t like my style tho. up to you
/r/seduction20/06/22 10:32 PM
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then stop bitching and moaning and man up. the only reason your failing is because of your own faults. work on yourself and be smart enough to recognize when you’re making mistakes
/r/seduction20/06/22 10:12 PM
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if you’re spam approaching and getting rejected hundreds of times i think you’re doing it wrong. look for eye contact and interest when approaching. you will likely get a number 1/10 times if you’re not very good. that was probably my ratio back when i used to go out. then again i sucked and would chicken out usually
/r/seduction20/06/22 10:02 PM
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I think your problem is extreme autism then 😂
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:59 PM
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fine do what you want. never worked for me. indirect works better but that’s my style. I spam approached 100s of times directly and it never worked. but again everyone has their preference
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:58 PM
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I ask about a place, for example have you seen or know where this place is or where they have chinese spices etc, then I cold read them, then at that point they should know i’m hitting on them so we vibe and i close or try to pull that’s the general gist of it
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:53 PM
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Eye contact is so important. I feel like when I started if I would’ve focused more on eye contact than spam approaching i would’ve approached girls that were actually interested
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:52 PM
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you don’t bro you hook up with them and you don’t have to talk about just keep booking up lol
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:51 PM
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I would just agree with her and go for the kiss lmao i’ve had girls find it funny sometimes they’re just saying that to not seem slutty or they wanna test you
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:51 PM
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cool I am planning to start day gaming again after many years. not looking forward to it lol cuz i have a lot doubt and I failed a lot, but i’m going in with a different approach this time
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:50 PM
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it won’t go away but i switched to indirect approaching and it’s so much better
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:44 PM
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i don’t wanna be mean i had great experiences with all of them but they’re like 6 ish most of them, they’re cute girls, one of them was really hot though and i dated her.
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:17 PM
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i feel this ngl, althought being 27 gives me access to older girls. but then again not that many older girls on tinder most older girls i’d think are taken or just over tinder
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:43 PM
1

are you short? what’s your height
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:42 PM
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same here used to get a lot of poon off tinder ngl. is platinum still working for you
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:04 PM
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while this is true I, as a 5’5 midget average looking have still banged 6-7 girls off tinder and still to this day bang some of them. it will just take time to get lucky, i won’t promise you’ll find a gf material girl on there but you’ll get lays if you give it time and beef up your profile. be sure to call girls on the phone or you won’t get anywhere. close for the number within 6 texts. cold read her to open, ask about ethnicity, job, hobbies at max and close
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:01 PM
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That’s LMS is super important, and game is a part of the equation but not all of it. improving my looks, growing a beard with midox, using lifts, taking up a hobby, and working a good job have made interactions with women soo much easier yet i wouldn’t have success if it wasn’t for either what i’ve taught myself or learned through game
/r/seduction20/06/22 07:57 PM
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to be fair, tinder has gotten much much worse, but as of now I do get matches every one or two days. then again i think my profile deserves a lot more than that cuz I used to get a ton of likes but whatever.
/r/seduction20/06/22 07:50 PM
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maybe cuz they removed ELO? and are actually doing it based on activity? if so you’d get shown to less women in general
/r/seduction20/06/22 07:45 PM
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lmao i wasn’t cheating on her bro, I just have a girl I can hit up whenever hadn’t spoken to her in like a year. when I say in the bag I mean I keep amicable friendships with girls i’ve been with before in case I want to contact them again in the future
/r/seduction20/06/22 07:43 PM
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I broke up w my girl recently, and I already have a fwb in the bag perks of keeping them under the hood in case you need em later
/r/seduction20/06/22 07:33 PM
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hold old are you now
/r/seduction20/06/22 07:32 PM
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yeah bro I mean, I am getting like a match a day which is crazy to me it’s actually (it’s not but they got us deprived out here) a lot, and I am good looking so i’m not surprised, but I used to just get maad matches like if I had all those now my game is so much better id be piping it up, but yeah like they definitely cut everyone down so they’ll boost and shit
/r/seduction20/06/22 07:31 PM
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sure bro do your thing.
/r/seduction20/06/22 05:44 PM
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instead of doing what I did and plowing through 100s of girls just to get rejected, why don’t you approach smart. Go indirect, transition with a cold read, go for the number or pull. Just don’t do what I did and spam approach directly. It was a waste of time and hurt my confidence a lot
/r/seduction20/06/22 05:30 PM
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how did you meet your wife
/r/seduction20/06/22 05:26 PM
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oh shit idk bro how about you make a script, not a line by line just topics of conversations stories interesting stuff. talk to the wall for 20-35 minutes. if you can do that you’ll do a million times better once you approach. try to have that same conversation over and over until you have it relatively memorized and you’ll always have something on hand to contribute if the girl isn’t giving you much
/r/seduction20/06/22 02:43 AM
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blows my mind you guys actually get gfs and lays from cold approach. i’ve only succeeded once, but to be fair i didn’t have much going for me back then
/r/seduction20/06/22 02:42 AM
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bro if i was your id focus on getting involved in clubs or fraternities at school to get the most poon and cold approach on the side, you don’t wanna get flagged as the creep on campus, although you can definitely see success in it if you do well. Id say the best places for night game for me were chill outdoorish bars, nothing too clubby or crazy a place were people will spark up a joint and you can offer to smoke a girl out during the day idk i never had much success daygaming besides maybe out…
/r/seduction20/06/22 02:39 AM
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this is a great idea although rock climbing is expensive lol so you met girls hiking? definitely lots of free time to talk on the hike lol
/r/seduction20/06/22 02:35 AM
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Yeah I agree I’m probably mostly coping, but reality is they must cut it off at least at 29, Id bet most girls 18-21 have their cutoff at 25-27
/r/seduction20/06/22 02:34 AM
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ah where I am you can just walk in. yes i’m thinking pickup co ed sports might be the best and fastest, as you don’t get too caught up with one static group
/r/seduction20/06/22 12:33 AM
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wtf do you think happened?
/r/seduction20/06/22 12:32 AM
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I mean you can just audit the classes and sit it to large classes, you don’t have to waste your money
/r/seduction19/06/22 10:07 PM
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really? I feel like it’s for older people and low quality girls?
/r/seduction19/06/22 06:43 PM
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this is so key !! just in general, eye contact is really how the best interactions begins. if you’re both looking at each other all the time i could almost laughs and just go say what’s up cuz it’s so natural. it’s happened plenty for me
/r/seduction19/06/22 06:40 PM
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dude cmn i’d die to be 5’9. I’m 5’5 and i’ve still managed to pull hot girls. not a lot. but it’s possible. that’s a huge excuse
/r/seduction19/06/22 06:11 PM
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I mean I could still get lucky but it’s gotten pretty ridiculous
/r/seduction19/06/22 06:08 PM
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Makes sense actually. I’ve been single so long because I have high standards for myself. But lately I’ve just realized I need to settle at least for a little while, otherwise i’m gonna stay single. This isn’t healthy tho and eventually i’m sure i’d go back to being single. Hence why I think many people just choose to be single hoping they find someone better. Girls for the top tier dudes that really don’t give them the light of day, and guys for any decent girl that’s chasing the top tier guys a…
/r/seduction19/06/22 05:57 PM
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I used to do really well on tinder but lately it seems like the app is just so bad i get no matches
/r/seduction19/06/22 05:55 PM
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sometimes i feel like if you’re not meeting people through work or school or clubs or activities it’s just not gonna go anywhere. i feel like it’s about being exposed to people as often as possible. social circles don’t seem realistic cuz it’s the same people and can be kinda hard to grow. my last try is gonna be with this whole meetups clubs auditing classes social jobs kinda thing cuz otherwise it seems like a lot of time wasted
/r/seduction19/06/22 05:48 PM
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what kind of groups do you recommend one joins?
/r/seduction19/06/22 05:44 PM
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