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Avoid bullshit. Absorb the shocks where you can’t.
/r/MGTOW231/07/21 04:56 PM
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You’re helping hundreds, perhaps one day thousands, with your story. Thank you for sharing.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 02:39 PM
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Username checks out.
/r/MGTOW27/07/21 02:51 AM
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Echoes of https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2010%3A13-16&version=NIV
/r/MGTOW225/07/21 01:34 AM
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You're getting some bad advice here from non-christians. Romans 8:13.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 12:47 AM
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Comments like this is why I love this place. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW23/06/21 10:39 PM
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The search for absolute truth eventually leads one to the cross. Jesus didn’t advocate for marriage and Paul advocated first for celibacy unless one was burning with passion. You should be clear about that. Otherwise you’re just another socio-biologically conditioned person pushing a different version of the same lies.
/r/MGTOW217/06/21 01:36 AM
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Serenity.
/r/MGTOW25/05/21 12:06 AM
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Yes.
/r/MGTOW224/05/21 12:50 PM
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Get into the habit of investing in growth stocks, even if it's something like $10/week, you'll thank yourself later.
/r/MGTOW22/05/21 12:43 AM
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If you're interested in making apps, check out https://www.raywenderlich.com/getting-started I found it very useful a few years back for getting up to speed. You don't need a degree or deep technical expertise, most of it's just grit, practise and common sense. With a few simple apps shipped, you could land a junior gig or some freelance/contract work - there is plenty of the latter for mobile developers here in the UK. It's a great way to setup your own small company too, which is very tax effi…
/r/MGTOW15/05/21 01:06 AM
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If you went monk you wouldn't need the vasectomy. Given everything you've shared, and that you have other interests & hobbies, I'm not sure why you've not recognised that lust is an addiction not worth holding on to, and can let go of, without an op, if you have the willpower. Fair dues if you think you don't have the willpower and are just trying to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, but note that engaging in lust does keep you addicted mentally to the cycle - and it's a literally pointless addicti…
/r/MGTOW211/05/21 11:22 AM
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“In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”
/r/MGTOW06/05/21 02:38 PM
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Sure why not.
/r/MGTOW03/04/21 11:32 PM
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Start building something
/r/MGTOW02/04/21 10:08 AM
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Brave was created by Brendan Eich, who was also the original creator of JavaScript, after he was seemingly chased out of Mozilla by SJWs for not towing the party line.
/r/MGTOW18/01/21 12:58 PM
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MGTOW and Brexit are both pro-self-sovereignty.
/r/MGTOW10/01/21 12:48 AM
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Reading this gave me a bit of hope for America - thank you!
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 04:41 PM
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AFBB
/r/MGTOW01/01/21 11:15 PM
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Good routine can help. Get up early and go for a nice hike or walk. Get some sun. I was walking around the supermarket today listening to music with noise cancelling on and that felt awesome. If I wake up late and stay up late I feel pretty awful. Sometimes it’s mostly just physiological. As for clown world, you can mostly just ignore it. It’s not like you owe it your attention. De-conditioning takes time and practise, and that’s ok as there’s no rush. Find and enjoy truth in the unfolding proce…
/r/MGTOW229/12/20 10:47 PM
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Sex still has a massive biochemical conditioning effect. Better to build up self control to the point you don’t need it in the first place, if able.
/r/MGTOW228/12/20 11:13 AM
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Software is a lucrative field with lots of remote work available if you search for it. Granted most of these jobs suck but it's a numbers game, keep searching. Perhaps even try making/running something yourself.
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 12:35 AM
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I've never understood this formula. It's been postulated as if it makes perfect sense by Christians, Romans, and other cultures historically, but seems contrived.
/r/MGTOW09/12/20 12:55 AM
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The central symbol in Christianity is a man dying on a cross. Think about why this is.
/r/MGTOW07/12/20 12:51 PM
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Great comment. MGTOW condensed into 3 sober sentences.
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 12:44 PM
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There are obviously some good women out there so fixating on the men vs women thing is self-defeating. Here's my recommended reading list, in order: Road Less Travelled → Memories, Dreams, Reflections → Mere Christianity → Kierkegaard → Gospels. And for some real life context, just look at the situation with Trump right now in the USA and ask yourself who is going after him and why. The blue-pill mainstream media and big tech censorship is in overdrive at the moment, and the simps are eating it …
/r/MGTOW229/11/20 01:23 AM
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I'm just about to turn 38, and am starting to live off investments. Not rich exactly, but living life by MGTOW principles + monk mode, helps breaking the conditioning so much easier, due to lower costs and more time to reflect. It helps to remember that MGTOW is no less ethical than living a life of ego/lust/biochemical/conditioning driven accumulation that society otherwise takes to be "normal". If anything, being free of all that conditioning lets one live a more ethical life that minimises ov…
/r/MGTOW21/11/20 11:11 PM
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Aye.
/r/MGTOW15/11/20 06:57 PM
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Indeed. Not doing good as a means to an end, but because it's good. Kant touched on similar.
/r/MGTOW15/11/20 05:36 PM
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Break the conditioning if you’re able. Giving into cravings only begets more craving.
/r/MGTOW215/11/20 12:03 AM
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Love seeing posts like this. Well done, congrats, and keep going!
/r/MGTOW12/11/20 10:42 AM
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It’s well worth reading Otto Weininger’s “Sex and Character” if you want to go further down this rabbit hole.
/r/MGTOW30/10/20 10:15 AM
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Yes.
/r/MGTOW22/10/20 10:12 AM
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Kierkegaard.
/r/MGTOW30/08/20 02:33 PM
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Discovery, with minimal impediments.
/r/MGTOW28/08/20 10:09 PM
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Sovereignty. It's for the same reason that they hate Trump.
/r/MGTOW228/08/20 09:33 PM
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That's under the presumption that the species is never going away. In reality it's Agape that's eternal.
/r/MGTOW22/08/20 12:03 AM
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Your experience and skills are cumulative. With compounding interest. Of course it gets better.
/r/MGTOW222/07/20 10:08 PM
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Read the epilogue to it too: http://lol-russ.umn.edu/hpgary/russ1905/epilogue%20to%20kreutzer%20sonata.htm
/r/MGTOW207/07/20 09:42 PM
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That’s a very insightful and explains a lot actually - thank you.
/r/MGTOW05/07/20 10:10 AM
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The best way to learn is to build something you and your friends will use, and then continue to experiment and build around that, learning the tech as you go, in real use, not as dry theory. For app-making the Ray Wenderlich video courses are quite good.
/r/MGTOW211/06/20 10:44 PM
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Glad you’re sticking to your guns re: not lying. Truth comes first.
/r/MGTOW201/06/20 12:47 AM
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Beyond the NT, it doesn't really get much better than Kierkegaard: http://www.ldolphin.org/Provocations.pdf - check out also the Gospel of Thomas and the Sentences of Sextus. Drucker's essay on Kierkegaard too was for me life-changing: http://www.druckersociety.at/index.php/peterdruckerhome/texts/the-unfashionable-kierkegaard Given your receptiveness, it seems like you're on the right path. Good luck and keep us posted.
/r/MGTOW231/05/20 03:59 PM
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Try: https://biblehub.com/1_john/4-18.htm I, like you, don’t accept the entire dogma, but at the same time the wisdom scattered through out the New Testament and gospels in particular is undeniable. Re: guilt. Here’s a nice quote by Kierkegaard worth reflecting on: “The opposite of freedom is not necessity, but guilt.” To really think clearly about this you’ve got to shake off selfish/social matters the world is relentlessly otherwise trying to condition you into being occupied with.
/r/MGTOW231/05/20 12:59 AM
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Nope. How do you know for sure it’s not changed?
/r/MGTOW28/05/20 05:47 PM
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What are your thoughts on the Bible? I still struggle with understanding the mechanics of animal sacrifice in the OT. Only fragments of some Gospels and a few letters in the NT seem to give hope. It seems like earlier more truthful strains of Christianity were wiped out in its first few hundred years.
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 11:41 PM
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Even being led to believe you need a house is part of the conditioning. Relax. Figure out what you need to live on and work out how much runway you have/need. That will keep you busy for now.
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 12:25 AM
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"One then feels here (this can be regarded in part as a kind of modesty, in part perhaps also slightly hypocritical, or on occasion, a refining hypocrisy) a need to resolve to get married – for reasons. The fact that one has reasons is supposed somehow to spiritualize the marriage, make it something higher than satisfaction of a drive. Nonsense! Either quite simply and simple-mindedly the satisfaction of drive, or spirit." Kierkegaard, Soren. Papers and Journals (Penguin Classics) (p. 592). Peng…
/r/MGTOW20/05/20 04:25 PM
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Don't compromise on self respect and sovereignty.
/r/MGTOW28/04/20 04:54 PM
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Jesus declared, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ Real love has nothing to do with lust and is hard work because it means treating even evil good. That doesn't necessarily mean being nice - but to not turn evil ourselves we mustn't ever become bitter. "By this we can see that love has overcome the world – that it repays evil with good…
/r/MGTOW30/03/20 11:40 PM
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I don’t see then how we’re in disagreement: stats back the idea that relationships are better without hookup culture.
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 08:48 PM
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I wasn’t advocating for becoming a tradcuck.
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 08:47 PM
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Genuinely laughed out loud at this one.
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 02:00 PM
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I often like your posts Zagnut but you're way off base here. Hookup culture really is destroying society. As others have pointed out the stats clearly back this. Even if you don't want to marry or obey fake religious authorities, you still want to mitigate and contain the effects of degeneracy, so if nothing else we can be left in peace and quiet and our tax dollars don't get wasted by those who "do what they want to". Rubbish religion all you want but then suggest an actual workable alternative…
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 01:53 PM
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Amen.
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 01:42 PM
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Thanks for the comment, there's a lot here to chew on. Celibacy indeed helps. May God bless you too.
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 01:33 PM
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Welcome.
/r/MGTOW08/03/20 08:23 PM
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Thank you for the advice and recommendations.
/r/MGTOW08/03/20 11:44 AM
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Combination of A: Maximising income and B: Minimising costs. The more you can do B, the less you need A.
/r/MGTOW07/03/20 12:49 PM
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You only have to work enough to live to your means. That means if you can live for $20k/year and can save $60k/year, just work 5 years and then you have $300k+ sitting there generating, say, $30k/yr interest in Vanguard, or a small property which eliminates the need to pay rent/mortgage. At that point you can take occasional small jobs if you want to, without needing too (check out Lean/BaristaFIRE), and mainly just pursue your true interests and hobbies (and find new ones, and make real friends…
/r/MGTOW06/03/20 01:05 AM
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Define success. When I was your age I thought it was being intelligent, rich, famous, admired, settled. Now I'm 37 and don't understand it as any of those things. Success is the degree to which you become sovereign, truly become yourself, individuate, self-actualise. You know you're going in the right direction when you know you're becoming more stable, focused, productive, peaceful, truly happy, regardless of what anyone else says or understands about you. True success isn't vain - it doesn't r…
/r/MGTOW25/02/20 01:05 AM
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The more you feed the monster the bigger it grows.
/r/MGTOW23/02/20 01:45 AM
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Hold on to what is good and let the chaos pass.
/r/MGTOW18/02/20 12:50 AM
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Great post. Evil can only exist on the coattails of Good. If good walks away the evil self destructs.
/r/MGTOW17/02/20 02:33 AM
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"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" All the success in the world isn't worth giving up even a tiny fraction of one's integrity and dedication to Truth.
/r/MGTOW07/02/20 01:04 AM
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Were your parents Christian?
/r/MGTOW07/02/20 12:55 AM
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I suspect death didn’t defeat Jesus. Rather that Jesus defeated death.
/r/MGTOW19/01/20 01:15 AM
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Making apps, reading.
/r/MGTOW204/01/20 11:16 AM
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You’re a hero for sharing your hard-won experience and wisdom in such a fair-minded way, without coming across as bitter or indiscriminately hateful towards women - that’s MGTOW at its finest. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW31/12/19 01:56 PM
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The Jewish leaders have come out against the left leaning government here for the UK election. I have Jewish Conservative friends, even ones who back Trump. Its not as one-sided as you might think.
/r/MGTOW12/12/19 12:06 PM
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"Blessed is the man who has suffered and found life."
/r/MGTOW01/12/19 03:13 AM
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You’re realising your sovereignty - you’re no NPC.
/r/MGTOW228/11/19 12:24 AM
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“Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”
/r/MGTOW228/11/19 12:13 AM
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Sorry to hear this. You’re a great dad.
/r/MGTOW12/11/19 09:05 AM
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Don’t forget Mathew 19:12: For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
/r/MGTOW210/11/19 05:29 PM
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Try https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/thai/fuang/single.html Check out Kierkegaard and Schopenhauer too if you haven't already.
/r/MGTOW09/11/19 03:04 PM
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Kierkegaard fought against what he called Christiandom towards the end of his life. The collision with the world, which each true follower of Christ experiences, that he talked about, absolutely exists.
/r/MGTOW22/10/19 11:00 PM
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Mainstream religion has a deservedly bad reputation. It’s blue pill. We both know that. Don’t put your (understandable) hatred for that ahead of your love for truth, and see where that takes you. Good luck.
/r/MGTOW12/10/19 09:57 PM
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Stop. Hold still. Try not to let the storm blow you over. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7%3A24-27&version=ESV It takes practise. Be willing to fail over and over but improve your reactivity gradually over time. With practise you’ll definitely improve. It’s encouraging to see posts like yours. It means individuals are starting to see the spell they’re under, and break free. Remember that ultimately it’s not even being stoic or meditation or money or travel or time or anythi…
/r/MGTOW12/10/19 02:27 PM
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👏
/r/MGTOW12/10/19 02:02 PM
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Sovereignty.
/r/MGTOW09/10/19 08:50 PM
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Learn to hold on to incoming stress and modulate it to achieve meaningful goals. Accept this requires practise; be ready to fall and get back up a thousand times. Good luck.
/r/MGTOW09/10/19 08:48 PM
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In a word: sovereignty.
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 04:00 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/18/ending-climate-change-end-capitalism
/r/MGTOW27/09/19 09:19 PM
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That looks magical. Thanks for sharing.
/r/MGTOW01/09/19 06:48 PM
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If this experience brings you closer to truth then it’s a net win, probably a win that you take with you beyond death. Just another perspective, I hope it helps. Good luck
/r/MGTOW30/08/19 11:15 PM
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Yet you're still here regularly helping countless men, because that urge to do good is still kicking strong. Thank you!
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 08:10 PM
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It's not what happens to you that defines you, it's how you let it shape you. You're a sword that's been tempered by many fires. That makes you valuable. It makes you great. This isn't some "don't kill yourself things are great!" bullshit, I'm just telling you the truth. Pour your energy/despair into writing perhaps. Turn weaknesses in strengths. Switch your vices - for example: instead of alcohol try tea and bacon.
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 08:07 PM
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Using women only as a means to an end, just to satisfy a temporary thirst, is debauchery and a state of lower dignity than marriage. That doesn't necessarily mean I'm advocating for marriage - just saying.
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 10:01 PM
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👏
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 09:53 PM
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If you need something to love, get a dog. If you need to feel loved, find God, for God is love. To practically get over near-term slumber, try this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B077BKXRV4/ref=tmm_aud_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1566076892&sr=8-1 - get the audiobook version if you prefer - it’s narrated by the author and his books have really helped me turn my health around in the past few months.
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 09:10 PM
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This is why I love this subreddit. You find men here thinking for themselves, not just blue pilled bots programmed by media.
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 08:48 PM
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Rational Male
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 01:49 AM
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You’re splitting hairs, and gatekeeping. With some time and luck he’ll only become more MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 12:11 AM
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Couldn't agree more. You can still do good work without wanting to be part of the mainstream, though. Once basic necessities such as food and rent are taken care of (easier as MGTOW), doing truly good work becomes its own reward, whether or not anyone else sees it. I can only speak for myself, but when I'm truly doing what I want the way I want, using relentless common sense and an open mind, without following some predefined script, it makes my soul sing, and it brings both me and what I'm doin…
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 11:10 AM
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Keep seeking. You’ll know when you’ve found it.
/r/MGTOW03/08/19 02:09 AM
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Figuring out the point of it all. I do believe there's a reason.
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 10:37 PM
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Man, do we live in interesting times. It’s like the Matrix but for real.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 08:57 PM
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There’s existence in time (society) and then there’s existence in eternity (beyond time and society). Read Peter Drucker’s essay on Kierkegaard: https://www.sorenkierkegaard.nl/artikelen/Engels/081.%20The%20unfashionable%20Kierkegaard.pdf Unravelling the mysteries of life is the most fun and rewarding activity there is. It’s also the most challenging. It’s also what gives life true meaning. Do you have any idea how fortunate you are to even already be seeing what you are seeing? Take it one step…
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 08:47 PM
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Dollar Shave Club appear to be Dorco blades, they look about the same: https://www.dorcousa.com/razors-men/ I bought 2 years supply of Dorcos in bulk when they were on sale. Truth be told they're not as good as Gillette, although fairly usable, and a lot cheaper. More importantly, they don't pressure you with political groupthink - I don't want to be funding Gillette’s political ads by buying their products.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 06:47 PM
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Who defines your worth?
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 04:29 PM
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Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. You’re only 20. It gets better.
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 11:07 PM
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This guy gets it.
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 11:05 PM
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Thank you - done.
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 12:09 PM
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You still have 100% of you. The feelings, however bad, are temporary, and will pass. Strive for higher goals than the false idols society has sold you. Ones that build up and can’t let you down. They exist and if you seek for them you’ll find them. Just like you found this place. I’d call that progress. “Adversities do not make a person weak, they reveal what strength he has.” Now get the hell back up. You’re loved and have no excuses.
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 01:14 AM
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Kierkegaard saw it over 100 years ago: http://www.naturalthinker.net/dquinn/Kierkegaard/Kierkegaard01.html It’s the same folks who put Jesus on the cross. Try /r/cmgtow
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 01:29 AM
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You don't have to be constantly moving to be happy.
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 11:49 PM
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“Man's maturity: to have regained the seriousness that he had as a child at play.” - Nietzsche
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 10:54 PM
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Blue pill programming. Read Rational Male.
/r/MGTOW202/07/19 11:51 PM
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Sounds like true progress. 👍
/r/MGTOW02/06/19 09:47 PM
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There’s a free PDF eBook of many of his best writings here: http://www.ldolphin.org/Provocations.pdf
/r/MGTOW02/06/19 07:49 PM
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True. He saw 🤡🌎 coming too: A fire broke out backstage in a theatre. The clown came out to warn the public; they thought it was a joke and applauded. He repeated it; the acclaim was even greater. I think that's just how the world will come to an end: to general applause from wits who believe it's a joke.
/r/MGTOW02/06/19 05:08 PM
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Cost of haircut is perhaps $15, 12 times a year. That's $180/year. Plus assuming each trip takes an hour overall, you also save 12 hours. Now if your time is worth $360/day, that's a $720/year total saving. Inspiring post, thanks for sharing.
/r/MGTOW28/05/19 11:04 PM
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Love how MGTOW reaps true diversity without even trying.
/r/MGTOW26/05/19 02:06 PM
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Gospels.
/r/MGTOW21/05/19 11:54 PM
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for in the rising again they do not marry, nor are they given in marriage, but are as messengers of God in heaven. for there are eunuchs who from the mother's womb were so born; and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men; and there are eunuchs who kept themselves eunuchs because of the reign of the heavens: he who is able to receive it -- let him receive. The author of Rational Male is Christian too.
/r/MGTOW20/05/19 11:35 PM
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Excellent analogy.
/r/MGTOW11/05/19 12:15 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/financialindependence/
/r/MGTOW05/05/19 02:37 PM
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Great post. Thanks for sharing. Just one question: the buddhist approach brings a stoic frame of mind, and peace, but is that enough? Life must have meaning. They say men love women, women love children, children love puppies. But who loves men?
/r/MGTOW28/04/19 06:50 PM
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"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"
/r/MGTOW22/04/19 08:58 PM
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Pin your hopes beyond society. It works.
/r/MGTOW31/03/19 11:30 AM
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Mitigate fragmentation of time by turning off non-essential notifications on your phone. Never react. Take your time to think, then respond.
/r/MGTOW23/03/19 10:36 AM
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Reading this essay changed my life: http://www.druckersociety.at/index.php/peterdruckerhome/texts/the-unfashionable-kierkegaard May it change yours too. Good luck.
/r/MGTOW19/03/19 12:03 AM
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Reading Nature of Order was my gateway drug into the world of religion. Most inspiring design books I’ve ever read.
/r/MGTOW18/03/19 11:56 PM
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You have to strive for truth, God, love (which are all the same), to see there is more to life. I’m not asking you to believe miracles, but try reading 1 John.
/r/MGTOW18/03/19 11:49 PM
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That's like saying you have to take drugs to know how to resist drugs.
/r/MGTOW23/02/19 06:34 PM
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Attitude trumps material outcomes. Never give up.
/r/MGTOW06/02/19 08:54 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Prodigal_Son Rejoice, for you were lost and are found. As for literature beyond the Gospels, check out Kierkegaard (http://www.ldolphin.org/Provocations.pdf), Jung, C.S. Lewis, Tim Keller (who’s also written a book on the above parable), and Road Less Travelled for the story of someone who made a similar journey back toward God. “Regular” Christians might hate it but it think there’s also a lot of thought provoking stuff in the Gospel of Thomas. And…
/r/MGTOW04/02/19 06:52 PM
2

It's good that you've identified your state. The next step is not to fall into a kind of black pill nihilism. And it seems like the only way that can be done is through faith. See https://biblehub.com/1_john/4-4.htm Pinning your hopes on this world is futile, for each of us dies. You have to pin your hopes on something beyond, and in the process that is what brings out good in what remains of your existence in this world too. As a CS major you'll understand recursion. Apply that to the question …
/r/MGTOW03/02/19 11:22 PM
1

If so inclined, try app development on raywenderlich.com. Their courses are far cheaper and more hands-on than most stuff they teach at universities these days. You can realistically earn £500+/day making apps in the UK. You also learn skills that open up the potential for you to really change the world in profound ways. Or just semi-retire faster and check out of the plantation early.
/r/MGTOW01/02/19 11:01 PM
1

Absolutely. And here lies true happiness.
/r/MGTOW01/02/19 10:57 PM
2

If you’re MGTOW, and want to free up faster, check out CoastFI. Nicer than nice things is being able to check out of the plantation that much sooner.
/r/MGTOW29/01/19 10:05 PM
1

Looks like you have a clear idea of the kind of thing you're looking for, and what you won't compromise on. That's already much of the battle won. Good luck.
/r/MGTOW226/01/19 11:09 AM
2

You always care about what someone thinks, that’s how accountability works, and to deny accountability is to deny agency. It’s just that someone isn’t who the mainstream tells you it is. It’s someone quieter and who doesn’t need you, but loves you and wants the best for you. Often it’s a father, and some say it’s ultimately God.
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 09:56 PM
1

The dead cannot challenge the living, they have to get you to invite them in, like in the stories. Simple healthy boundaries is basically all it comes down to. Wise.
/r/MGTOW22/01/19 08:15 PM
6

This narrative of blaming it on Jews/elites doesn't make sense, because even in large countries without their influence like India, the same problem persists.
/r/MGTOW19/01/19 08:48 PM
3

I wonder what happens when we hit 144,000
/r/MGTOW18/01/19 12:41 AM
1

If the attitude shaped here determines destination, it’s definitely something to lose some sleep over.
/r/MGTOW18/01/19 12:16 AM
2

https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/7-9.htm
/r/MGTOW210/01/19 10:57 PM
1

What does mean something to you?
/r/MGTOW205/01/19 08:45 PM
1

Which job means more to you? Perhaps neither if you're unsure. Consider all of your options. Have a strategy to get where you want to be at 40. No one can think this through for you. Write it all down and edit and shape your thoughts on the matter until it's all clear within your mind. Then you'll have the conviction to move forward confidently.
/r/MGTOW205/01/19 06:33 PM
2

They have their reward. Such things are always accompanied by moral degradation in character.
/r/MGTOW05/01/19 05:10 PM
2

It's nothing new. See https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/7-31.htm
/r/MGTOW28/12/18 12:20 AM
27

Username checks out.
/r/MGTOW28/12/18 12:16 AM
7

Tolstoy's epilogue to the Kreutzer Sonata: http://lol-russ.umn.edu/hpgary/russ1905/epilogue%20to%20kreutzer%20sonata.htm
/r/MGTOW24/12/18 12:44 AM
1

Even knowledge perishes. It's only hope that makes life meaningful.
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 07:08 PM
1

So we should just nod and follow what you think is best?
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 05:26 PM
3

Who are you to define what success and failure is?
/r/MGTOW20/12/18 07:10 PM
1

Show some respect if you want answers.
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 11:28 PM
1

Newton, Leonardo, Tesla, Kierkegaard, Kant, were MGTOW. These were some of the greatest men that ever lived. We're not the ones that need convincing. It seems like you're just trying to rationalise your own biological urges by straw-manning MGTOW. There are some incredibly wise posts on here as well. It's one of the most woke subreddits.
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 09:49 PM
1

Become a contractor, then the money goes into your company, and you can legit. pay yourself a tax efficient amount, leaving the rest in the company. That can go into R&D when you're not working for a client, working on your own products, investments in startups, and so on.
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 09:28 PM
2

Making apps, reading, writing, figuring out why we exist.
/r/MGTOW15/12/18 10:24 PM
2

Schopenhauer: It is difficult to find happiness within oneself, but it is impossible to find it anywhere else.
/r/MGTOW15/12/18 09:13 PM
5

Phenomenal comment. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW14/12/18 11:13 PM
3

Kierkegaard: A fire broke out backstage in a theatre. The clown came out to warn the public; they thought it was a joke and applauded. He repeated it; the acclaim was even greater. I think that's just how the world will come to an end: to general applause from wits who believe it's a joke.
/r/MGTOW07/12/18 11:50 PM
3

You can only really love yourself and others to the extent you're loved, directly or indirectly, by God.
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 11:29 PM
2

Well said. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 08:02 PM
5

You’re not owed anything. Not giving you anything doesn’t mean we’re cruel. It’s wrong for you to think if someone doesn’t do something for you, and minds their own business, their life is not worth living.
/r/MGTOW24/11/18 10:39 PM
2

Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 06:15 PM
1

🙂
/r/MGTOW22/10/18 12:43 AM
1

Thor doesn't exist and I neither love/hate him, but your hatred is real. Give 1 John 4:18 a read. or don't. Either way, you have your reward.
/r/MGTOW21/10/18 11:36 PM
1

The kind of hatred toward God you project is what put Christ up on the cross, and perhaps more than anything validates God's existence.
/r/MGTOW21/10/18 10:39 PM
2

We don't really know for sure what happened, so this is sort of ruining the meme. Not funny, and encourages a group-think conclusion in a way that isn't MGTOW at all. This isn't an atheist forum. Jesus in the Gospels relentlessly railed against and exposed blue pill hypocrisy. That's why he was executed.
/r/MGTOW21/10/18 08:23 PM
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I think the only real answer could be that he created himself. We can't say that about ourselves, but that doesn't mean we project the same limitation on God. An even harder question then might be why? And for almost any explanation it seems like the means cannot justify the ends - and this is what people get upset about re: God, and perhaps rightly so. I think one must also be careful however not to jump to conclusions. For if anyone truly thinks this is all for nowt is then a hypocrite for goi…
/r/MGTOW21/10/18 08:20 PM
3

You can live a good life without procreation, and not all of those who procreate lead good lives.
/r/MGTOW17/10/18 08:56 PM
2

"The Essays of Arthur Schopenhauer; Counsels and Maxims by Arthur Schopenhauer" It's available for free on Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/10715
/r/MGTOW16/10/18 07:41 PM
2

“Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.”
/r/MGTOW08/10/18 06:05 PM
1

If entropy wins then we wouldn’t be having this awakening right now. That’s the opposite of entropy. Separate the wheat from the chaff. If you believe you’re chaff, that’s what you become. It’s a choice. Choose to be wheat.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 10:51 PM
2

I think you summed up the way a lot of us here feel. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 10:45 PM
2

The wheat is separating from the chaff.
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 06:40 PM
5

It’s easy these days to tell if someone’s woke based on their perspective on Trump. Just like how it was to see how twisted the religious authorities had gotten in Jesus’s time. Good brings out the evil in others. The greater the good the more aggressively it lures out the evil to attack it until it ultimately exposes itself out in the open for all to see. Godspeed Trump.
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 06:36 PM
1

Give it some time.
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 09:57 PM
1

Treat yourself as you want others to treat you. You matter too. Is there anyone in particular that you look up to yet?
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 06:26 PM
1

Why? Morality matters, even toward oneself.
/r/MGTOW14/09/18 07:52 PM
1

True Buddhism and Christianity both align with the MGTOW: The worldly idea is that happiness is found in riches, merriment, abundance, leisure, and such things. The real truth is the very opposite. Both have been distorted and corrupted extensively. MGTOW perhaps one day will be too. But I suspect those who earnestly seek truth will always find it.
/r/MGTOW10/09/18 01:27 AM
1

I’m not sure yet to be honest. I’m more convinced by the God of the gospels than the one portrayed elsewhere in the bible. I think one has to tread carefully when one reads the bible. Evil is a parasite on good, without good it starves and couldn’t exist. If the gospels contain the greatest good, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if it was wrapped in layers of parasitic lies. In fact, that’s precisely what you might expect.
/r/MGTOW24/08/18 10:09 PM
1

Jesus’s death on the cross ended the grip of death on humanity. It defanged death. When you try to put the truth to death, it doesn’t compute, and death itself starts working backwards. Jesus demonstrated a love so perfect that it wiped out fear completely in those able to comprehend it. Study the history of the church and the true Christians who were persecuted, just like Jesus.
/r/MGTOW23/08/18 10:28 PM
1

Have you read the Gospels?
/r/MGTOW23/08/18 10:20 PM
2

Jesus didn’t say you should stone women or condemn gays. Read the gospels.
/r/MGTOW23/08/18 10:16 PM
1

You will be if you keep practising.
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 08:40 PM
1

Hope.
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 11:09 PM
4

It’s sexual communism. Historically the only answer to communism, which believes that ultimately fulfilment can wholly be found in society, has been faith, which teaches that for ultimate fulfilment we each must go beyond society. The current climate too will be overcome only when men regain their faith. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 12:10 AM
2

You’re an incredible human being to have come out of that intact. Thank you for sharing your story. If you liked People of the Lie, you may like Kierkegaard too: http://www-astro.physics.ox.ac.uk/~ddarg/pdf/Provocations - he’s similarly unapologetic when it comes to commenting on evil. If there was no evil in this world, and no God, Jesus would have never been nailed to a cross.
/r/MGTOW22/07/18 01:38 AM
1

Road Less Travelled, Schopenhauer, Knuth, Christopher Alexander, Peter Drucker, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, St. Escriva, Jung, Kierkegaard, Gospels.
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 02:24 PM
2

Society even at its best can not fulfil Man. Only hope for something beyond. Read Peter Drucker’s essay on Kierkegaard.
/r/MGTOW14/07/18 06:52 PM
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TGTOW
/r/MGTOW06/07/18 07:57 AM
2

Truth sets you free.
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 07:42 PM
1

Sort of. Check out http://web.stanford.edu/group/cslipublications/cslipublications/pdf/1575863278.pdf
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 10:38 PM
2

The relationship was already flawed. Women today are deceived left right and center, often by evil men, and then take good men down with them. It’s like Adam and Eve playing out millions of times a day, every day. We can’t stop Eve from eating the apple (especially with today’s laws), but we can sure as hell walk away when she offers it to us.
/r/MGTOW28/05/18 11:31 PM
2

Crowds dilute accountability, and using that as your guide can't end well.
/r/MGTOW28/05/18 07:08 PM
3

We're largely in agreement. I make apps for a living, and want to build companies. I'm just suggesting the attitude we take towards our ultimate goals/ambitions ought not to be rooted materially in this world, for that never ends well. There's got to be something beyond that makes getting through and still doing good in this world worthwhile.
/r/MGTOW28/05/18 06:49 PM
1

What are you objecting to?
/r/MGTOW28/05/18 06:43 PM
1

As a programmer, one way to think of this is to reduce the number of references and variables you have to keep. The less you have the more sanely you can process what's left. Again this is the kind of thing Buddha (monk mode) and Jesus (being poor in spirit) taught.
/r/MGTOW28/05/18 06:38 PM
2

Christopher Alexander, Donald Knuth. As Schopenhauer described, the greatest men are often under-appreciated during their time.
/r/MGTOW03/05/18 08:48 PM
1

Faith. Perfect love casts out fear. I know this isn’t a popular notion, but just observe the world and see who’s found sustained lasting peace and happiness. It’s the monks, saints, and martyrs. No one else. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it. Most of us are paralysed by our fear of death, but once you get past this you’re home free.
/r/MGTOW25/03/18 09:18 PM
1

Channel that energy toward intellectual pursuits and your cravings will cool. You’re not busy enough.
/r/MGTOW28/02/18 11:18 PM
5

We’re being socially engineered to death.
/r/MGTOW28/02/18 10:15 PM
1

Faith. Find what gives you hope. Once you truly know such a thing exists you’ve won at life, and even death holds little sway over your attitude. Love perfected casts out all fear.
/r/MGTOW27/02/18 11:08 PM
1

See http://www.escrivaworks.org/book/the_way-chapter-4.htm
/r/MGTOW27/02/18 06:42 PM
1

Never compromise on your search for truth. Avoid debt, financially and morally.
/r/MGTOW26/02/18 12:04 AM
2

You’ve found the glitch in the matrix. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
/r/MGTOW25/02/18 10:57 PM
2

No, he’s already lost. When you try to destroy truth, you end up getting destroyed by truth instead. Look at what feminists have done - instead of liberating women they’ve liberated men instead. By allowing himself to go on the cross, Jesus exposed the evil of this world. We’ve become aware of what was previously hidden, and the world has never been the same. It brings one to a truly astonishing realisation: that truth is invincible, and every attempt at subverting it eventually backfires. If yo…
/r/MGTOW16/02/18 10:47 PM
2

To choose to love God isn’t sin.
/r/MGTOW16/02/18 10:41 PM
1

God punishes the ungodly simply by ignoring them. This is why they have success in the world – the most frightful punishment, because in God’s view this world is immersed in evil. But God sends suffering to those whom he loves, as assistance to enable them to become happy by loving him. Source: http://www.ldolphin.org/Provocations.pdf
/r/MGTOW16/02/18 10:37 PM
9

There is no moral obligation to have kids.
/r/MGTOW16/02/18 12:08 AM
1

Don’t let the world convince you this life is meaningless. That’s a lie. Your life is meaningful. Once you truly internalise that, then you have something even death can’t take away. You have hope. Suffering builds endurance, endurance builds character, character builds hope. Try Kierkegaard: http://druckersociety.at/index.php/peterdruckerhome/texts/the-unfashionable-kierkegaard and http://www.ldolphin.org/Provocations.pdf
/r/MGTOW14/02/18 06:57 PM
2

Gnostic?
/r/MGTOW12/02/18 12:35 AM
2

This is one of the best threads on /r/MGTOW, because it illustrates that if all men stood up for what is good instead of being manipulated by their biology, we'd be back in paradise overnight. I can't help but think that what the Adam and Eve story was trying to indicate was the fall of man into this bizarre biologically conditioned world into which he is immediately enslaved. The cross, correspondingly, indicated bringing an end to that biological conditionality, letting unconditional love maki…
/r/MGTOW11/02/18 05:58 PM
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After having gone through all of that, to still realise and speak the truth, must take a lot of courage. Your kids are lucky to have you. Thanks for sharing.
/r/MGTOW11/02/18 05:50 PM
5

Lots of excellent advice, thanks for sharing. The only place we disagree on is morality. If there's no ultimate justice, everything you talk about is futile and pointless, and you're wasting your time. Of course, that's not actually the case. You're helping yourself, and you're helping others, because you see hope beyond this world, beyond death.
/r/MGTOW11/02/18 05:44 PM
1

Of course. That's why Buddha and Jesus essentially taught how to recognise delusion and redeem yourself out of it.
/r/MGTOW11/02/18 05:10 PM
9

Making apps. Bible study.
/r/MGTOW03/02/18 09:35 AM
1

Didn’t see this coming. Amazing. Godspeed, Rollo.
/r/RPChristians26/01/18 11:29 PM
5

When I was younger I used to think success in the world was something worth striving for. Now it’s the last thing I want. It’s like wanting to be popular in prison. Once you figure out it’s not where you want to be, the next step is figuring out how to never end up here again. Buddha described it as becoming dispassionate with the world and unbinding yourself from it. Jesus, who would be described by some Christians as truth itself, said: “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you an…
/r/MGTOW18/01/18 01:07 AM
1

Even a fairytale cannot get away with crucifying the truth.
/r/MGTOW15/01/18 11:18 PM
3

The comparison stems from Pride, which is the chief sin. See http://www.timesandseasons.org/The_Great_Sin_condensed.pdf
/r/MGTOW15/01/18 10:35 PM
4

I’ve just donated $25. I recommend ignoring the whiners, and taking action. Every little helps. Damore vs Googliath. Let’s do our bit and then watch God make the impossible possible.
/r/MGTOW13/01/18 07:10 PM
2

Life isnt about pleasure and security, its about thriving in pain and adversity. Love life for what it is. Very well said.
/r/MGTOW07/01/18 04:59 PM
2

MGTOW is a sign of the times. It’s a fallen world. These deceptions can no longer remain hidden. The paradox here is that as soon as you know evil exists, you realise good must exist too. The opposite of sin isn’t virtue, it is faith. Read Drucker’s essay on Kierkegaard if want to understand this. The Christians already understood much of what we see now ~2000 years ago. Newton predicted the end of humanity by around 2060. The only hope I see is in the message of redemption. A version 2.0 of exi…
/r/MGTOW07/01/18 12:41 AM
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You’re right it is. It’s not far off from what Jesus and Buddha taught if you can look past all the blue pill tradcons and nihilist liberal pseudo buddhists and examine the actual source materials carefully.
/r/MGTOW01/01/18 01:36 AM
3

What’s truly telling is how united they all are in their hatred for the God of the New Testament (and naturally by extension, conservatives). Ironically, anyone truly paying attention is going to catch on to this and investigate further. Evil individuals not only destroy their own souls, but inadvertently drop you hints on how not to end up like them.
/r/MGTOW30/12/17 11:15 PM
2

Very well said. You speak for many of us here. The root cause is lack of accountability, which is ultimately due to lack of faith and the respect. I refuse to fall in line with a society that no longer distinguishes good from evil, and therefore indiscriminately enslaves me to evil.
/r/MGTOW30/12/17 04:44 PM
2

It’s disgusting. See http://www.escrivaworks.org/book/the_way-chapter-4.htm
/r/MGTOW29/12/17 11:17 PM
2

It’s all projection, and would be harmless if it didn’t involve enslaving yourself to a corrupt system, that forces you to give to others without discriminating between if they’re good or evil.
/r/MGTOW29/12/17 11:41 AM
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no matter who's around your bed, you're dying alone. Well said. Reminded me of what Peter Drucker once said: The individual's death does not end the species or society, but it ends his life in time. Human existence is not possible in time, only society is possible in time. Meaningful individual human existence requires going beyond society, beyond time.
/r/MGTOW29/12/17 11:30 AM
1

Your attitude says it all. I’ll stick with God, thanks.
/r/MGTOW29/12/17 09:42 AM
1

Exactly. The key here is seeing that good and evil exist. Evil is always a falling away from, and corruption, of good, it is parasitical. For anyone open minded and curious about this, M. Scott Peck’s Road Less Travelled, and his follow on book People of the Lie, are a good starting point.
/r/MGTOW29/12/17 08:34 AM
5

They can't stop because in the silence, they would have to deal with themselves. That was beautiful.
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 11:48 PM
5

You are the mission, your life and it’s direction are what you should be focused on. Well said.
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 11:41 PM
12

Amen.
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 01:19 AM
3

Wise words, Chad.
/r/MGTOW26/12/17 12:43 AM
2

31 Then there came his mother and his brothers, and stood outside, and they sent in to call him. 32 But the people were sitting around him; and they said to him, Behold, your mother and your brothers are outside, asking for you. 33 And he answered and said to them, Who is my mother, and who are my brothers? 34 And he looked at those who sat near him and said, Behold my mother, and behold my brothers. 35 For whoever does the will of God, is my brother and my sister and my mother. Even if the whol…
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 09:24 PM
1

Prove yourself to who?
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 10:38 PM
1

success in the dating world is actually a very poor measure of how good a person actually is. Insightful comment.
/r/MGTOW15/12/17 10:30 PM
1

To deny they have a choice is to deny them accountability. Do you think they shouldn’t be then held accountable for what they do?
/r/MGTOW12/12/17 09:38 PM
8

Ultimately, belief in something beyond society: faith. Without faith it all becomes meaningless and never ends well.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 03:22 AM
7

You were lost, and then found.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 03:14 AM
1

Set the right example.
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 05:09 PM
1

Sheep can also be trained, directed. It goes back to how society is governed. So many people today feel a loss of identity. I doubt hundreds, thousands of years ago, despite being under rule by kings, people felt their lives to be as meaningless. As stated, life is generally safer, but less free, and perhaps deep down we can feel it. Yet, having stated this, can we find a way to structure society better and overcome this? Is it even possible? Sometimes I wonder if humanity fell the moment we sta…
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 09:00 PM
1

Faith. Who do you look up to? Who’s your rock?
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 08:08 AM
12

So glad to see real Christianity making a return.
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 09:25 PM
1

Yes. Manlightenment. Great post, great discussion. This is what MGTOW is really about.
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 10:55 AM
2

The only way for a system to actually be healthy is for all actors involved, men and women, to have a choice. Do you understand that?
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 09:56 PM
1

Existence beyond society. That means what we do while we’re here matters.
/r/MGTOW29/11/17 08:35 AM
1

That's why you and people like you can never answer a simple question. "Why are people not allowed to have freedom of choice?" Because you don't want them to. This. Well said.
/r/MGTOW27/11/17 06:17 PM
2

It's perhaps referring to persecution of followers.
/r/MGTOW26/11/17 12:51 AM
2

Thanks. Yes, that too.
/r/MGTOW25/11/17 08:49 PM
1

Faith. Find meaning beyond society. If you seek it you'll find it. Newton, Leonardo, Kierkegaard, the great monks and saints of years gone by, weren't deluded. It's the modern world for the most part that's deluded. To be fair, as a wise man once said: it's better to marry than to burn with passion. But if you're not burning with passion, there are plenty of other things to do. Ask yourself who you can look up to, learn from, and follow.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 10:57 PM
4

That was beautiful.
/r/MGTOW13/11/17 09:59 PM
2

Nothing. Freedom.
/r/MGTOW13/11/17 08:39 AM
6

It’s an honour to be in presence of your hard-won wisdom. Thanks for sharing it.
/r/MGTOW12/11/17 02:07 AM
1

I didn't know victory was as easy as doing nothing. I should've started this path years ago 👏
/r/MGTOW11/11/17 05:43 PM
2

To be clear I didn’t mean that MGTOW morality is deceptive and evil, rather that deception and evil is a topic worthy of consideration when it comes to morality as a MGHOW. Personally I see MGTOW as very moral, for it advocates not being used and not using others.
/r/MGTOW10/11/17 11:13 PM
1

Perhaps you’re right. It’s an interesting thought experiment nevertheless.
/r/MGTOW01/11/17 08:54 PM
1

Existence purely in society has always led to despair. Read http://www.druckersociety.at/index.php/peterdruckerhome/texts/the-unfashionable-kierkegaard?start=1 and just observe the world around you away from all the social engineering. Even existence as a self reliant individual in society can at best lead to stoic resignation. Existence as an individual in oneself is only possible with faith in something beyond society, and is evidently the only thing that works. Compare the countenance of a sa…
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 10:34 PM
2

Apps
/r/MGTOW30/10/17 08:48 PM
2

Faith is precisely this: to believe in existence beyond society.
/r/MGTOW28/10/17 05:18 PM
1

You’re accountable.
/r/MGTOW14/10/17 05:49 PM
1

You can’t force the most productive members of society to work for and subsidise the rest. It’s never worked and never will, because it doesn’t make any sense.
/r/MGTOW11/10/17 07:51 AM
1

Making apps, aiming for semi-retirement by 40.
/r/MGTOW09/10/17 08:53 PM
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For decades the liberal left has imagined a melting pot where folks of different cultures find a common ground. Little did they expect that feminist opression of males is where that common ground will be found. True. Who knew feminism would backfire and liberate men?
/r/MGTOW09/10/17 07:30 AM
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“'Worthless man, haven't I taught the Dhamma in many ways for the fading of passion, the sobering of intoxication, the subduing of thirst, the destruction of attachment, the severing of the round, the ending of craving, dispassion, cessation, unbinding? Haven't I in many ways advocated abandoning sensual pleasures, comprehending sensual perceptions, subduing sensual thirst, destroying sensual thoughts, calming sensual fevers? Worthless man, it would be better that your penis be stuck into the mo…
/r/MGTOW07/10/17 11:05 PM
2

Smile.
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 09:43 PM
2

The more you feed the monster the more it grows. Unless you want children it makes no sense to feed the monster at all, it objectively makes no difference and just ups your addiction level - like a drug. I’m a 34 year old virgin. This stuff barely bothers me, and that leaves me free to focus on other things. It would be harder to be this way if I had memories of exes or meaningless flings floating around at the back of my mind. Despite the messages society and media relentlessly tries to drill i…
/r/MGTOW01/10/17 02:36 PM
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The rabbit hole runs deeper: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/thai/fuang/single.html http://lol-russ.umn.edu/hpgary/russ1905/epilogue%20to%20kreutzer%20sonata.htm This is one thing both Jesus and Buddha agreed on. Celibacy and freedom from worldliness is what both saints and monks strive for. The mystery of this life is unravelling, and I suspect MGTOW is going to play a major part.
/r/MGTOW09/09/17 02:32 PM
2

http://biblehub.com/matthew/8-22.htm
/r/MGTOW06/09/17 07:44 AM
3

Wow. I always wondered what Jesus meant when he said those words. Thanks.
/r/MGTOW05/09/17 09:07 PM
1

Stability is found in reaching for stabler things, not less stable things.
/r/MGTOW02/09/17 11:16 PM
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My favourite: "No man is hurt but by himself." If you understand this, it entirely the shatters the narrative of the political left and society at large.
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 08:14 PM
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34 year old virgin male here. Breaking the conditioning is much easier. Ignore the pussy hounds. Don't expect most to understand. Continue to strive for goodness - it is its own reward.
/r/MGTOW28/08/17 07:57 AM
1

By around 2060 according to Newton: https://isaac-newton.org/statement-on-the-date-2060/
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 03:00 PM
3

Said no monk or saint ever.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 01:38 AM
6

Sounds like a monster that grows bigger the more you feed it.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 06:40 PM
2

Faith.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 12:19 AM
3

Is it because you have to deal less now with people?
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 10:20 PM
4

Find your heroes, learn from them, follow them, ascend.
/r/MGTOW30/05/17 05:41 PM
1

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
/r/MGTOW22/05/17 12:57 AM
1

In the bible it says something along the lines of "perfect love casts out fear". Definitely something worth contemplating.
/r/MGTOW19/05/17 07:17 PM
1

https://isaac-newton.org/statement-on-the-date-2060/
/r/MGTOW14/05/17 12:07 AM
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It lends so much credence to what Buddha and Jesus, and those they inspired, taught about actual human nature. Buddha taught life in this world is suffering, derivative of craving and defilement. Jesus was calling out all of this hubris 2000 years ago, and they put him up on a cross - yet that very cross then came to shine light on what this world is made of. It seems like, in this world, we're well past our best years (look at the state of music as an example, ~200 years ago we had the likes of…
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 03:57 PM
2

Another fact that points toward the evil nature of humans is the success of capitalism and the failure of communism. Communism assumes that humans are good. So good in fact that it asserts that humans would work for no direct benefit to them, but to the benefit of the group. Capitalist assumes that all humans, at the very least, have the evil of greed, which is why it works. Astute observation. There's definitely a ring of truth to the doctrine of Original Sin.
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 10:38 PM
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I did say that to varying extents we are all like this. Clearly some seem more aware of it than others. I've no doubt some have gotten further along this path than I have, and from such individuals I am still learning. It's not an observation I make out of pride.
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 09:36 PM
1

Search for meaning.
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 06:27 PM
1

You're still subject to the same combination of laws and fallen humanity as everyone else.
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 08:10 AM
1

Not so much convenience, it's a struggle. But it's worth it because it gives meaning. To truly love, you need to feel loved.
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 12:12 PM
3

These are the kind of posts I come here hoping to read. Thanks. Jung's Red Book is also well worth reading.
/r/MGTOW11/04/17 08:36 PM
3

Sensuality is designed to capture your attention over sustained periods. Don't let it. Shake it off as soon as you become aware of it, and refocus on something worth doing. Do this enough times and it'll fall away.
/r/MGTOW01/04/17 10:04 PM
2

Well said.
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 09:57 PM
2

Look into Buddhism and Christianity. Not the mainstream stuff but the core truths that Buddha and Jesus actually taught, much of them are politically incorrect in today's world. Try also the philosophers. Meaning isn't going to handed to you on a plate, you're going to have to work for it. Continue to ask for help when you need it.
/r/MGTOW08/03/17 11:57 PM
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Keep going. Eventually you'll get good at it, love doing it, be paid for it, be able to make anything you want, be able to continue developing yourself freely, and be able to share the fruits of your labour with people all over the world.
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 11:11 AM
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The irrational hate is precisely the thing that makes you realise there is something here worth investigating further. Things like the first noble truth, and John 3:20 start making sense. I suppose we're still here in this world to the extent we haven't outgrown it.
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 10:51 PM
2

a motivation to avoid pain rather than seek something positive. Seeking the latter directly never works, yet seeking the former takes you to the latter.
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 09:31 PM
1

See http://biblehub.com/revelation/14-4.htm, and the other references in this thread, and connect the dots. It's not so much women themselves, but that the whole sexual reproduction instinct today has been taken advantage of in evil predatory ways. The fall may have even to do with recognising this eventuality, if not as a concrete event, then in abstract. You could almost imagine God as the programmer on his way to creating a perfect world and then he realises there's this huge design flaw that…
/r/MGTOW03/02/17 01:59 AM
2

If you buy in bulk, it works out cheaper.
/r/MGTOW20/01/17 08:06 AM
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Good point - I am doing this more and more too. Home-cooked rice for example is just infinitely tastier, and you can control the amount, and add flavours, and that it costs 10x less is just a nice bonus. I find things like curries more difficult to get right, and messy if there are a lot of ingredients, so still think there is a place for convenience foods. But not to the extent present in supermarkets today - it seems like only 10-20% is fresh "real" food and the rest is highly-marketed high-ma…
/r/MGTOW19/01/17 07:40 PM
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Thanks - noted. I think it does make sense to spend more money on higher-quality core ingredients, like milk and fruit and nuts, for sure, and in terms of value you largely get what you see. Completely unlike, for example a bar of chocolate that costs £1 and has £0.10 of sugar as the main ingredient.
/r/MGTOW19/01/17 07:37 PM
2

Chamfort: "Happiness is not easily won; it is hard to find it in ourselves, and impossible to find it elsewhere. " Schopenhauer: "A man can be himself only so long as he is alone, and if he does not love solitude, he will not love freedom, for it is only when he is alone that he is really free." It can take years, decades, for these statements to sink in, but you eventually come to realise they're true. Whether alone or in a relationship, a man shouldn't be dependent on others, and use them as a…
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 12:00 PM
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I thought this too but it's simply not true. You end up with moral relativism, which means anyone can just deny accountability for doing any wrong, or pat themselves on the back for what they feel is good, which has led to our present situation. Kierkegaard said it best: "the opposite of sin isn't virtue, it is faith." When you believe in God and hold yourself accountable to him, it changes everything. The reason society degenerates is from lack of accountability, which comes from lack of faith.…
/r/MGTOW16/01/17 05:36 AM
2

I haven't drawn any final conclusions yet, but I think it's an even bigger mistake to just outright dismiss such hypotheses, than to continue thinking about them. If, once we're dead, that's it, then we're already done for. I see no advantage in believing that to be the case. I do see advantage in believing that it's not the case.
/r/MGTOW15/01/17 12:04 PM
1

Perhaps belief in death is a self-fulfilling prophecy, and instead if you believe you have a soul, and that it doesn't die, then it doesn't die. That would explain the concept of everlasting life (which Jesus talks about quite a few times in John's gospel). I think it's preferable to believing it's all for nothing, and that seems to yield better fruit even in this world.
/r/MGTOW14/01/17 10:54 PM
1

What are your current living costs, and why? I'm getting by at under £25k/year in London, and that covers decent food, technology, and a living space that's probably larger than I need. Half of $130k is more than enough for a decent existence as long as you don't invite further trouble.
/r/MGTOW14/01/17 12:26 AM
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What do you think of these verses? http://biblehub.com/matthew/19-12.htm http://biblehub.com/luke/14-26.htm http://biblehub.com/matthew/22-30.htm http://biblehub.com/revelation/14-4.htm
/r/MGTOW13/01/17 02:15 AM

It's better to work through your suffering than pretend it's not there.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/17 06:39 PM
3

"I will not subscribe to the ways society says I should live and instead have opted to discover how best to live my life for myself." Well said.
/r/MGTOW03/01/17 03:02 AM
1

If innocent lives are unnecessarily lost to an ideal, then it's a moral failing. The ends do not justify the means. To use others primarily as means to ends is to dehumanise them. A million in deaths in this example is bad because it's a moral crime against humanity. Those million people do otherwise die eventually anyway, as we all do, but at least in that case they wouldn't have died in vain because of someone else's moral failure. I suppose the thing to contemplate here is whether morality is…
/r/MGTOW16/12/16 07:01 PM
1

Could you elaborate?
/r/MGTOW15/12/16 02:39 PM
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Realise, through practices, what destroys ego, your sense of self, to attain a perception of what buddhists call no-self. That's why life's greatest difficulties often come as a blessing. I think it's what Jesus meant by being poor in spirit. So much unnecessary struggle just comes from being full of ourselves. Ego is big and burdensome. Make it small and light, so doesn't weigh you down, so that you can just get on with doing amazing things in your time here.
/r/MGTOW15/12/16 12:03 AM
2

Escaping the loop is easier once you overcome all the gas-lighting. We're in a lunatic asylum, of sorts, all crazy to some degree, and the crazier we are, the more we are in denial of it. The wiser the man, the more deeply he acknowledges sin, and the more he subdues himself. Jesus and Buddha both saw, and pointed out, that something is seriously wrong with this world. I think the core distinction was that Buddha taught us to rely on ourselves, whereas Jesus taught us to rely on God.
/r/MGTOW12/12/16 04:28 AM
2

Thanks for sharing. I think anyone really paying attention to what's going on sees what you see. What are your thoughts on Buddha?
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 08:46 PM
3

Try making some apps: iPhone: https://developer.apple.com/library/content/referencelibrary/GettingStarted/DevelopiOSAppsSwift/ Android: https://developer.android.com/training/basics/firstapp/index.html It gets really fun once you start to get the hang of it.
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 02:55 AM
2

For if you start with the question, How is society possible?, without asking at the same time, How is human existence possible?, you arrive inevitably at a negative concept of individual existence and freedom: individual freedom is then what does not disturb society. Thus freedom becomes something that has no function and no autonomous existence of its own. It becomes a convenience, a matter of political strategy, or a demagogue's catch phrase. It is nothing vital. To define freedom as that whic…
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 11:51 PM
2

If a man can't trust me enough to be his wife, then we probably shouldn't get married. If you trust him then why do you need him to sign a legally binding contract?
/r/MarriedRedPill02/10/16 01:19 PM
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You don't need anyone's permission to play around with thoughts and ideas, and make things.
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 01:22 PM
2

Point being, no one wants to face the truth, and that is: there is no meaning, no rule, in life. There is no right or wrong way to live. Says who?
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 05:09 PM
9

Check out the history of the Cathars. They were a sect of Christians who believed this world was ruled the evil God of the Old Testament, and is being redeemed by the good God of the New Testament. They believed that we are spirits trapped in animal bodies, and in rebirth in a similar way to that of Buddhists. They got wiped out by the Catholics in 12-14th centuries - you have to wonder why.
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 02:48 AM
2

Start collecting data on something you care about, and build something to do cool things with it. You don't have to know exactly what you're doing to begin with - be playful and see what emerges.
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 01:21 AM
3

Was that in response to my comment or OP?
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 12:48 AM
9

Make apps.
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 11:39 PM
1

When you tell your children something they don't understand yet, yet they believe you because they have faith in you, is that foolish? Sometimes it's about power and control - this world is drenched in immorality - but that doesn't mean it sometimes isn't about something truly good.
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 09:57 PM
2

Slow down, read, listen, make things.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 12:52 AM
1

St. Paul said it is better to marry than burn with passion. That is, remain celibate, but if that isn't possible, marry. There was no third good option. Play with fire, and sooner or later you will get burned.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/16 10:26 PM
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The whole point of Christianity is to follow Jesus, who was perhaps the greatest masculine role model of all time, and who you seem reluctant to talk about. The Church isn't falling apart specifically because of women, it is falling apart because men no longer imitate Christ.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 08:06 PM
1

Something perhaps only a woman could tell the men here. Thanks for sharing.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/16 10:43 PM
3

This is great advice, thanks for sharing.
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 11:10 PM
3

Sentences of Sextus.
/r/MGTOW15/08/16 12:46 PM
5

"God dwells in a sage's intellect."
/r/MGTOW14/08/16 07:21 PM
3

Well said. Reads like a modern version of Matthew 19:14.
/r/MGTOW14/08/16 06:30 PM
1

Develop yourself to the degree that you start enjoying your own company.
/r/MGTOW13/08/16 11:07 AM
2

Strive for goodness. Assume that's what you'll take with you when you die, and that everything else will be left behind. See what effect that has on your life.
/r/MGTOW10/08/16 01:36 AM
1

If you won't be able to afford providing a living for yourself, how will you be able to afford providing a living for a family?
/r/MGTOW04/08/16 08:16 PM
1

It's precisely this. To pin all your hopes on just the things of this world is futile.
/r/MGTOW03/08/16 01:00 AM
2

Indeed. May we bear all things, believe all things, hope all things, endure all things.
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 11:20 PM
2

The awesome thing about the Lord is free will. He's not going to force anyone to do anything. Astonishingly insightful remark. Thanks for sharing.
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 09:05 PM
1

I'm not sure what you mean - can you elaborate?
/r/MGTOW12/06/16 02:35 PM
1

Society and states passes away - it's inevitable, regardless of how good or bad the world is to you. In fact if it was good to you, you'd have a harder time seeing these things for what they really are. The central message in most religions is to invest in what doesn't pass away. And paradoxically, investing in such matters tends to bring the best peace and happiness in this life too, irrespective of what the state or society thinks - it's an individual choice that unto death no one can take awa…
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 11:48 PM
1

Jesus would to say about people like that: they have their reward - just look at what they become. And you, having reflected on your experiences, have yours.
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 11:42 PM
2

Hypothesis: there is ultimately no such thing as moral accountability in worldly matters (whether it's society or the animal kingdom), never was - if so, to whom? Moral accountability ultimately is and always has been to God. That is why every functioning civilisation has been built on the basis of faith, and that is why the world today, as it loses its faith, is falling apart.
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 11:26 PM
3

Be your best self and give him his due respect for raising you.
/r/MGTOW10/06/16 10:13 PM
2

http://customarts.com
/r/MGTOW06/06/16 09:19 PM
2

Couldn't agree more. My last holiday was 3 years ago, and I have no further plans for trips beyond business. I'd genuinely prefer to read a good book for 1-2 weeks instead. I've invested most of my holiday time in the past few years in studying, and am now on the verge of building a business that embodies what I love doing.
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 07:54 PM
1

Craving for renewed existence. Check out /r/buddhism.
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 12:47 AM
3

Actually religion has been pretty good at improving the order in things. Think about what we had before Christianity or Buddhism. The most beautiful sirene man-made places have almost always been places of worship, meditation, prayer. The most chaste men and women too have been associated with such things, and it's historically what has lead to the most stable societies and greatest human achievements. Look at what all the colleges at Cambridge and Oxford are named after. Atheism has increasingl…
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 02:33 AM
2

33v here. I have intense intellectual interests that keep me engaged mentally, which leaves little capacity for sensual desire/cravings, and I generally prefer solitude.
/r/MGTOW28/05/16 02:13 AM
3

Jesus/Paul said if you're not burning with passion, you don't have to get married. Getting married is the lesser evil to all-out debauchery.
/r/MGTOW28/05/16 01:17 AM
1

When you put social existence ahead of individual existence, you ultimately compromise both.
/r/MGTOW16/05/16 11:18 PM
1

Entropy
/r/MGTOW11/05/16 12:20 AM
1

Did Isaac Newton live a life without purpose?
/r/MGTOW02/05/16 12:35 PM
1

Craving for renewed existence. Buddhism explains it well.
/r/MGTOW04/04/16 11:57 PM
2

Glad you like it too. I've come back to it dozens of times, and caught a glimpse of something important each time. It's absolutely phenomenal writing.
/r/MGTOW29/02/16 12:37 AM
4

Peter Drucker wrote about this almost 100 years ago. You might enjoy his essay on Kierkegaard: http://druckersociety.at/index.php/peterdruckerhome/texts/the-unfashionable-kierkegaard?start=1
/r/MGTOW23/02/16 10:34 PM
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I often wonder if this is what Jesus meant in http://biblehub.com/luke/14-26.htm If so, the next stage is to become disconnected to even your own sense of self. Buddhist thought too is along similar lines. e.g. http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/thai/fuang/single.html In Buddha's words: That is not a strong fetter, the wise say, which is made of iron, wood or hemp. But the infatuation and longing for jewels and ornaments, children and wives — that, they say, is a far stronger fetter, which pulls…
/r/MGTOW13/02/16 12:53 AM
3

True love is that which is upbuilding, that which endures. Romantic love is based on lust, a temporary passing phenomenon that encourages bonding between males and females in order to produce offspring. We all need the former, the latter is optional for some - we can choose. The question you really need to ask yourself is if you're more stable single or in a relationship.
/r/MGTOW19/01/16 10:11 PM
1

It made a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing.
/r/MGTOW02/12/15 11:04 PM
3

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19:12
/r/MGTOW02/12/15 10:06 AM
10

This is huge. Thanks for sharing.
/r/MGTOW17/11/15 06:57 PM
1

Marriage isn't based on a 2000 year old moral code. Jesus/Paul allowed marriage as a concession, a continuation of the way things already were for centuries prior. The actual Christian recommendation was, where possible, not to marry, because of all the difficulties that follow. They didn't strengthen the idea of marriage, they moved it to second place, putting the option of wholly serving God/humanity first. The order given, in very clear terms, was: Celibacy (ideal, but not expected from every…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/15 10:38 PM
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