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with your 'objection lines' you're negotiating. You can negotiate a lot of things, but you can't negotiate her attraction. That's why she isnt' compliant. She's not into you sexually and you can't change that. She decided before you finished your opener
/r/seduction20/10/21 05:13 PM
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I honestly think that's the case for all of the coaches and 'pro' PUA's as well (they bang the 'yes girls', and get rejected by the 'no girls') Makes sense since they say Attraction isn't negotiable
/r/seduction20/10/21 02:05 PM
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learn to love yourself for who you are
/r/seduction19/10/21 10:25 PM
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mastering pickup is about closing with the vast majority of girls who are into you. Escalating smoothly, maintaining the attraction etc I don't believe anyone can 'seduce' a girl if he's not her type. Same as a girl who i'm not at all attracted too can't 'seduce' me Certainly not a single PUA who we are familiar with has shown the ability to do so (I own literally every premium product in existence lol)
/r/seduction19/10/21 04:53 PM
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your advice is 'I have special seduction lines' but then if someone asks you to elaborate, you're in their DM's trying to squeeze some money out of them. How is that useful to anyone not wanting to pay you. That's also zero contribution It's a scam. Plus you have no proof or infields. You're just a random guy trying ot make money from people on seddit
/r/seduction18/10/21 08:09 PM
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I hope people know that there are no secrets that some dude on seddit knows that isn't already in the vast info we have (mysterymethod, models, RSD, Todd V,Vin Dicarlo etc etc!!) Don't be fooled. This industry is crooked. People want you to think they know something special and will try to take your hard earned money We need to get rid of these cockroaches. Seddit is for people to share advice free. Not people shilling for business to rip of naive, desperate readers
/r/seduction18/10/21 07:47 PM
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on here or YouTube teaches anything but basic game or really bad game, including you? All you do it talk about it, but have nothing interesting to say about it at all.
/r/seduction18/10/21 03:34 PM
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Even if I gave you one line, that won't help you much. Dodged it!! haha. What a shocker
/r/seduction18/10/21 03:27 PM
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No, you don't know all there is to know, because if you did, everyone here would be sleeping with 2-3 girls a week, every week, every month, every year if they wanted to. That's not how it works lol Attraction comes first. Then game. I know everything there is to know about game. Everyone should if they have the internet. No excuses
/r/seduction18/10/21 03:25 PM
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Demand for the product is the important bit. Same as in cold appraoch. If you're not her type, it's game over. Advanced game or not (and i think we all know all there is to know about game on seddit)
/r/seduction18/10/21 03:05 PM
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you're right in that it is common sense lol That's why we don't need no coaches haha It's easyt. Approach girls. Make a move. If they like you it will lead to sex
/r/seduction18/10/21 02:42 PM
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because he's living in fantasy land! lmao. Who upvotes his posts?! He must have a lot of alts (notice how his posts all get +5 upvotes in seconds haha)
/r/seduction18/10/21 02:33 PM
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nope. That sounds like a PUA coach tlaking nonsense trying to sell stuff to me You a coach?
/r/seduction18/10/21 02:32 PM
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there's no magic bullet Guys who sleep with tonnes of girls are either utilizing good looks, or 'status' (fame etc). Or money (in which case you may aswell use hookers lol) There's no magic verbals or PUA tricks It's all very basic. If you don't know about game check out todd valentine or RSD or coach kyle or just type in 'pua' on youtube. You can learn all you need to know in an hour
/r/seduction18/10/21 01:45 PM
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impressive! That's some going lol You recommend todd or tay?
/r/seduction18/10/21 01:08 PM
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yes, of course having a complete lack of social skills is a killer. If someone needs to literally learn how to hold eye contact and have no idea how to flirt and stuff then they could definitely benefit from reading these PUA books and stuff. But assuming someone is 'normal' (normal social skills, has a friend etc), all they need to do is approach more girls, spark up a convo, and find out if she is interested or not. That's all they can do/all there is too it. It's just a numbers game but most …
/r/seduction18/10/21 10:39 AM
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nothing you can do if you're not her type. Move on Reply like: ''Well, I had to shoot my shot haha'' and then change subject or whatever like it's not a big deal
/r/seduction18/10/21 07:57 AM
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hidden camera footage of him actually approaching girls
/r/seduction18/10/21 07:36 AM
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he doesn't even have infields. Not worth listening too. He's just a good looking, well connected guy sleeping with foreign girls.Don't be fooled. He has no special 'tricks' i'm afraid
/r/seduction18/10/21 07:35 AM
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people over complicate it. It's so freaking easy. Try to get a cool life, and hit on girls in your spare time. Approach, say hi, flirt and see if you're her type or not. It's obvious fairly fast. If no, move on to the next girl. People are too pussy to try their luck. I learnt game a long time ago
/r/seduction18/10/21 07:33 AM
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learn game. That the super easy bit. Approach, ask her stuff and chat, ask her out. Keep doing that and you'll find interetsed girls from time to time who are attracted
/r/seduction18/10/21 07:31 AM
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what stuff do you 'put into action' out of interest? I've seen his stuff, but there's no clear verbals and stuff to use (other than 'can I meet you real quick' opener, adn the DHV's about being a DJ. Like in terms of technical stuff and actionable tips there seems to be nothing there compared to other PUA's i've watched) So what stuff specifically are you putting into action and applying that you learnt from him? thanks
/r/seduction14/10/21 09:33 PM
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depends on her age Young girls are all about looks. They are even more superficial than us men are lol With older women, money and status comes into play
/r/seduction14/10/21 09:20 PM
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not sure if this will work, but: https://www.girlsaskguys.com/girls-behavior/a30695-if-women-really-aren-t-visual-it-s-a-huge-disappointment-for-guys not sure if links work. But this thread is someone who must have read 'girls aren't visual' on some PUA forum and is asking the girls, and they all agree with the girl a few posts above about attraction and looks. e.g it works the same for them as it does us
/r/seduction14/10/21 08:32 PM
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I have female friends who have said their type was the stereotypical brad pitt looking dude and they ended up dating overweight or skinny dudes. taht kinda makes sense, though. Like, my 'type' is Mila Kunis. She' brunette and dark features and short and big eyes etc etc, but you better believe I'd also love to Bang Margot Robbie who is also hot as fuck but looks nothing like her! Good looking is good looking. That's why I say 'type' isn't necessarily important. It's the same for guys and girls.
/r/seduction14/10/21 08:32 PM
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porn is better
/r/seduction14/10/21 08:19 PM
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it's amazing haha
/r/seduction14/10/21 08:16 PM
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Women will backwards rationalize how hot a guy is when they find their game / personality attractive. Sounds like she was talking about a photograph in her example lol. Man people really do hate hearing the truth! It's amazing Yes women have different preferences but you can change women’s “type” if your game is solid. Nah, you really can't. Game comes after and is to help you not completely screw it up lol. But make no mistake, if you open a girl who isn't physically attracted, no amount of neg…
/r/seduction14/10/21 08:14 PM
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Newbie mistake is to assume women value looks as primary, because men do. Disagree. Women often confirm that it's what opens the door to everything else. It comes first edit: Even in this thread haha. Just spotted the other reply
/r/seduction14/10/21 05:48 PM
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burn that book lol. Check out models or something instead. Complete opposite. As you say, mysterymethod stuff is super cringe. If you took mystery out with you for a night out, you'd be VERY dissappointed in what you would see lol (basically him interrupting groups adn annoying them and then getting rejected)
/r/seduction13/10/21 11:46 AM
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yes - i'd say my issue is definitely one of attraction. But the problem is I don't think i've ever been able to make a girl attracted who otherwise wasn't, if that makes sense. It always seems like she either thinks i'm hot (in which case, nowadays I tend to bang them girls. I didn't always before I learnt 'game') OR she doesn't think i'm hot, in which case no matter what sort of attraction material I use (be it negs, cold reads, teases, self amusement etc) it never seems to help. But yes, attra…
/r/seduction15/09/21 09:46 PM
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Field test direct game you mean? I intend too. I've made hundreds and hundreds of approaches and gotten 40+ lays (but each lay takes maybe 150 approaches or so. I only approach girls way younger and hotter than me) I'M currently still experimenting with mysterymethod(or at least very similar....something a user here has been helping me with and replying to my field reports to give feedback etc) but it doesn't seem to be working (most girls simply aren't attracted to me and I can't make them comp…
/r/seduction15/09/21 09:18 PM
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thanks
/r/seduction15/09/21 07:40 PM
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The issue with direct and overt statements is that it gives away your power and shows neediness. But mark Manson says it shows immense confidence and vulnerability which is what builds attraction
/r/seduction15/09/21 10:26 AM
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You don't have to turn a "no" into a yes. There's a yes right over there. but playing devils advocate, lets say there's not a 'yes' over there. (at least not yet) - like, Lets assume you're a bit unfortunate looking, and old, but you are surrounded by beautiful young girls who seem to all want to sleep with the young handsome tiktockers :) The original promise of 'game' was that girls don't care about looks, and that if you use 'game' (which encompasses the aforementioned techniques) then you ca…
/r/seduction15/09/21 10:24 AM
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A lot of times it polarizes a "maybe" into a no because rapport wasn't built enough. Build up the rapport then be direct. yes, I actually do agree with that and it's a good point (scaring the cat kind of thing) But maybe the time saving is the payoff against occassionally being too polarizing. I guess my question to you would be do you think you can turn a hard 'no' (you are just not her type. She's not attracted to you) in to a 'yes' with 'indirect game'. It seems i've only heard of a handful o…
/r/seduction15/09/21 10:12 AM
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You dont need to be direct and overt to establish a man to woman premise. of course. But doesn't it just speed up the process of finding out where you stand and whether you are wasting your time on a girl who isn't attracted? And if a different technique still establishes the premise as you say, then does it really matter either way as long as premise is shown?
/r/seduction15/09/21 09:49 AM
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thanks
/r/seduction15/09/21 09:17 AM
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Being direct can definitely work but not on some girls but isn't that the same for indirect? Some girls just won't be into you? I know how to build sexual tension and stuff, but it only helps if she is receptive to the idea which i'm starting to realise might be known by her the second she sees me haha
/r/seduction15/09/21 09:12 AM
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you have a list of attraction switches, such as: Willingness to emote Tribal leader of men Pre selected by women Protector of loved ones Then you model your personal stories to bring that out. So take a story, like hanging at a hotel hottub after hours. Good, but now change it to mention you were with an ex-gf who had done modeling at the time, that you had led your group of friends around that night to the hottub, and how you had to look out for the group when some outside force threatened them…
/r/seduction14/09/21 04:51 PM
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thanks. Yeah, it's possible I scared the girl. But then so did the other guy who approached her after me? Her reaction was the same for both of us lol. Not sure. I'm not a scary dude. I just made eye contact, smiled and confident made a statement about her coat and she kinda freaked out lol. The DHV stories are basically just ask her a question, she replies and then you DHV from it. She says she's from xxx area, you talk about how you went there recently and done some sky diving or you had a few…
/r/seduction14/09/21 10:23 AM
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I thought RSD quit pickup years ago! Didn't know they still did boocamps! Is it still max and jeffy and tyler and julien?
/r/seduction07/09/21 05:17 PM
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thanks. I started a new thread about my experience with game if you wanna check it out!
/r/seduction25/08/21 07:15 PM
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thanks. I'm basically experimenting for a few months with a method someone shared with me which is loosely based on myserymethod from what I gather. Idea is that you can basically get any girl, even if she isn't attracted, if you keep baby stepping compliance all the way to sex. A bit like you can't approach a random girl and ask her to eat a tomato, but you might be able to get her to hold it, and then smell it and then eventually eat it. And each time she rejects the compliance, you punish her…
/r/seduction25/08/21 09:53 AM
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