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Most women looking for a relationship at that age want kids - do you expect them to support multiple children on their own for numerous reasons while getting pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:55 PM
1

It has very little to do with when men are hottest. Men have an easier time dating when they're older because women have fewer options and are more desperate at older ages. They are much more likely to settle with each passing year, particularly if the man has a decent job
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:54 AM
1

sure you could let people choose, if you're ok with expectations impacting people based on gender at a huge scale in society, like how women are more expected to do housework etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:51 AM
8

These all sound bad. Maybe #1 if she wasn't Christian
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:43 AM

Again, he never said he doesn't choose 18 year old girls. Rather, he said that 18 y.o. girls wouldn't date him. Also, you think it's sleazy for a 28 y.o. woman to date a guy in his early 30s? You realize that most 28 y.o. women are capable of making adult decisions right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:36 PM

He didn't say he stays away from college girls by choice
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:48 PM
2

Another thoroughly internet brain-rotted take. You've seen a bunch of men and maybe 0.01% of women online complaining about creepy dudes and assumed that reflected millions of women in real life. Touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:23 AM
1

True, warm approaches certainly are the most successful, I just don't think irl girls are ever going to discount you because of an inch of height alone, regardless of being perceived as shallow. I think it's much more that they have more info about you, so don't need to rely on basic info like height and hair color etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:48 AM
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I see that you have not offered any substantive points
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:46 AM
1

OK... well then heads up, people you know irl aren't going to say they rejected you because you were 5'11 and not 6'. It sounds like you're taking bitterness from the online world and thinking it will apply irl, which is a recipe for disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:56 AM
0

You see that a lot in your life, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:09 AM
1

I disagree. Nobody in a friend group I've ever been in would criticize someone else for rejecting someone, as long as they do it politely, especially if there's an obvious mismatch in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:03 PM
2

Woosh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:15 AM
7

You sound like a huge asshole. Assholes are usually not very happy Also, if you only listen to rich men, why at you here? Go start a support group at your country club
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 08:31 PM
10

Right, so that's exactly what people mean when they use the colloquial expression "men will fuck anything".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 05:11 PM
-4

Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:58 PM
1

It's funny that you're basing your claims off what you hear from other people, since in your username it literally says people are wrong on the internet Or did you just hear people in your life saying shit and believed them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:57 PM
1

Do you believe that men don't have low standards for casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:56 PM
25

Obviously, sayings like that are not meant to be taken literally. But the sentiment bears a lot of truth, that men 1. Are very often horny and/or ready to fuck at a moments notice and 2. Have low standards for casual sex. When you weigh that against women who are (reasonably) 1. wary about who they sleep with and 2. More likely to need some foreplay, you see that the saying holds a lot of truth
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:52 PM
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Yeah they do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:57 PM
1

Or men learn to simp while women learn to evaluate candidates for a job, like a manager/leader does.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:36 AM
1

How so
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:43 AM
2

Lol what does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:20 AM
1

How do you think it applies to my dating preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:19 AM
7

You misunderstand basic supply and demand. Most women don't have to message first, so they don't. Guys would act the exact same way if they could get laid without messaging first. You're pulling this completely out of your sexist ass
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:39 AM
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Ridiculous saying in this context. When I shop for couches, I prefer green and brown couches. Does that mean I'm going to look for green and brown women? Women are more passive in dating for specific reasons that are specific to dating, which don't necessarily translate to other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:37 AM
2

You said that men don't care about weight/looks. You can just admit that was a dumb thing to say any time
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:10 PM
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I'm the one who told you to Google it, because it's literally just a word with a specific definition. Since it does appear that English may be your second language, I'll save you the 2 seconds: a close and harmonious relationship in which the people or groups concerned understand each other's feelings or ideas and communicate well. I know what false equivalency is. I didn't ask you to define it, I asked you to actually state your argument relating to false equivalency, because I'm pretty sure it…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:09 PM
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irl men barley if at all care about weight/looks. But this is a thing you just said right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:06 PM
3

irl men barley if at all care about weight/looks. This you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:04 PM
3

Deflection of what, you literally didn't make any argument or claim - just said "????" and the name of a fallacy which you haven't even demonstrated that you understand, much less whether it applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:57 PM
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"Saying I'm right and posting a gif is more important than actual rational thought and discussion"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:56 PM
2

This analogy perfectly illustrates your inability to understand the importance of availability on who men have sex with: If 100 men are each offered either 1. Sydney Sweeney or 2. Sydney Sweeney but she's a lot fatter and has more acne, then the vast majority are choosing option 1. However, in reality, we know that most men don't actually have the option to fuck Sydney Sweeney, so they are often/sometimes happy to go with option 2 for a one night stand. The fact that they choose option 2 doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:52 PM
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What a devastating reply!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:44 PM
3

??? You know if you don't know a word, you can just google it. False equivalency I highly doubt you know what that means given your other comments, but if so, explain where the false equivalency is? You do realize that, if most men had access to fit attractive women, that they would never fuck the heavier less attractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:11 PM
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Such a simple concept - availability. It's like saying: Men fuck fleshlights way more than they fuck Sydney Sweeney, so obviously they find fleshlights more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:08 PM
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So grammar is wrong now? Y’all the ones that started making me use “/s” and shit so what’s the problem? No, grammar is not wrong - you entirely misinterpreted what I said which was quite clear. Grammar has implications on the meaning of sentences, in case you didn't realize. I explained the implications of the grammar that you used, which you seemed not to understand. Perhaps English isn't your first language? If so, I recommend you try being less arrogantly incorrect until you get the hang of i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:03 PM
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Did you go to university to study how to be both wrong and patronizing at the same time? You put a period at the end of the sentence where you made the silly claim that irl men don't care about looks or weight; and then in the next sentence you started with the word "especially" which means that the previous sentence is true on its own, but even more true in the following specific case. So I have no problem with reading - you just have a problem with writing. BTW, yes, men care about looks and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:33 PM
5

If you say so
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:20 PM
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"Irl men" obviously do care about weight and looks lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:18 PM
12

There is definitely a difference; if a girl is fat to the point where her face and hands have a pudgy look, that is very different than a girl who happens to be larger but you can tell by her face and hands that it's just her natural size That being said, there is definitely a threshold where you can be too large, and will get less attention from guys
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:03 PM
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For sure, these are basic life skills. Ofc it's going to be awesome if your partner can do things that will help your relationship, it's so obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:18 PM
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A man is generally considered a better long-term partner if he's handy. That fact is probably more pronounced in Russia than many other places today, but it's not particularly unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:05 PM
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Lots would. If my wife's friends are going to a spa for a long weekend, I would absolutely tell her to go, if it's feasible - that's going to be a fun and memorable trip. On the other side, if my wife doesn't like camping (which she doesn't), she is very happy for me to go on a camping trip without her. It's literally fine. Not sure why you're bringing up stay at home moms
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:05 PM
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Most women don't get approached constantly in most bars (not clubs). That's fine if you're talking about a dance club where fuck boys go, but that's not most places. The truth is that if you trust your wife, and she's not a bimbo who's getting dressed up all slutty to specifically go places where fuckboys hit on women, then you're fine. The fact that you think you need a rule to forbid your wife from leaving your zip code with single people is not normal for serious relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:05 PM
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In your mind, your wife being at a bar with her friends is comparable to you going on a dating/"cheating" app or a strip club?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:56 PM
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It may be common in relationships, but what is the actual value of that rule? If your wife has more vacation days than you, and the kids can just sleepover at their friends houses or something, are you really threatened by your wife going out of town to a cottage or spa with her girlfriends for a few days?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:30 PM
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"Minimizing risk"? Is that what you were suggesting? How do you plan to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:27 PM
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Lol dude, I hope you don't have kids yet. You sound like the worst helicopter parent of all time. You can't send your kids to school in full football padding every day just so they won't scratch their knee. Kids need to live a little, and yes, experience risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:14 PM
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I mean, that's not really the point. If a guy consistently dates bimbos who aren't interesting, smart or loyal - that's probably on him for selecting that type of women. Same with women who keep going out with fuck boys
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:09 PM
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I never said the kids would be left alone. There are many possible ways a kid can be taken care of for short times, ex. Staying with family, sleepovers at friends, summer camp, or the other parent stays.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:03 PM
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It's not unreasonable for a parent to go on a vacation away from their kids once every few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:38 PM

Men also want what other men want/have
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:21 PM
2

That's only part of the complaint. The other part is that guys they're friends with only want sex, even when they want a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 12:30 PM
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I've explained pretty clearly how they relate. Hinge is not the same as dating but it can act as a first step. So can friendship. So both Hinge and friendship are fair game to complain about dating issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 12:25 PM
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Correct, in that scenario, the man is not interested in dating. If you look at the other examples, you'll see they also involve situations where one of the people is less invested in dating than the other. This is a common complaint in people's attempts at dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 12:18 PM
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Friendship with the opposite sex is sometimes a first step in sex and/or dating. That's what #4 is about
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 11:36 AM
17

That's basically what OP asked for. She answered the question quite directly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 11:33 AM
3

It's a logical extension of your argument in order to test your idea, not a pivot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 11:30 AM
10

"I'm not going to entertain examples which go against my conclusion"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:31 AM

Or it proves that most of that hypervigilance is over the top and unnecessary, if women truly prefer a random bear to a random man Edit: and I'm not even saying this is true, just that it can be drawn as a conclusion from the "bear example" just as easily as your conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:05 PM
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You didn't explain your position. If I have a preference to marry someone who also wants kids, why do you assume that I believe anyone who doesn't want kids is not "equal" or deserving of equal rights? You implied it heavily but I'm very happy to hear you out; that's why it was phrased as a question, not an argument - so it was not a straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:46 AM
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Let me get this straight: because you don't want to date someone, that means you don't think they're "equal" to you? And therfore you must not actually believe they deserve rights? Please explain
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:39 AM
1

Sounds like you're applying arguments you don't believe in based on a straw man (or woman in this case) that you made up in your mind lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:34 AM
4

Rational people can fight for equality in, for example, the workplace and education, without changing their personal dating preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:29 AM

Have you considered that women benefit more from divorce, so it makes sense that they're the ones that initiate it while men drag their feet on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 11:15 AM
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I haven't seen that proven anywhere, have you? Sources I've seen say things like "The most commonly reported major contributors to divorce were lack of commitment, infidelity, and conflict/arguing." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4012696/ Forbes seems to say that finances is number 6, although they do say that "Career choice" is number 1 to be fair. Still, my main point is just that you can't prove much by the fact that women initiate most divorces
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:15 AM
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Pretty sure it's consistent that men cheat more, but also there's clearly more than just sex involved in affairs, it's usually pretty emotional as well. Either way, doesn't impact my point that just looking at who initiated the divorce does not prove who is at fault for the divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:49 AM
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Charitability has nothing to do with it. Women benefit more from divorce so they initiate it more, regardless of who's at fault
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:17 PM
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It doesn't have to, in order to show that just because woman initiate the divorce doesn't mean they are the cause of it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:40 PM

You dated numerous women who were fucking random fuckboys who DM'd them on Insta? How old were these girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:07 PM

Source on anything or just weird assumptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:17 PM

Did I say it was what they say or did I say it's what they're doing? I've date lots of girls between 25-30, who are dating exclusively and aren't going to clubs every week. That's who I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:01 PM

Sources are not his strong point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:38 PM

What does hookup mean in the source? Is that new partners each time for each year? Or hookups with old partners included? In the source section of that link I only see bedbible.com. that website also said that "41% of women and 49% of men reported not being sexually active in college at all" Do you also believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:08 PM
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To be clear, the cheating thing was just an example to show that the 70% statistic does not prove who is at fault for the divorce. It only shows that woman benefit from divorce more on average, which makes sense because they often are the ones that need financial support or to marry another guy if their husband is already cheating. So I'm not that concerned with cheating in particular. However, I've never seen a source that says women cheat more than men. But I've seen plenty that say men cheat …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:19 PM
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When they initiate those divorces, how often was the man cheating already? Of course women initiate most divorce, but that doesn't mean they're at fault for 70% of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:11 PM

I'm happy to get more specific. As I said, the girls I know have much fewer than 8 partners. "According to CDC data, women between ages 25 and 44 had a median of 4.2 sexual partners, while men in that age group had a median of 6.1 sexual partners. A study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found millennials have an average of eight sexual partners." I'm from a large city as well but didn't go to a party school. I think it's silly to complain if you're specifically talking just about gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:26 PM

Uh where are you meeting these women? Average lifetime partners is like 4-8. And in my experience it's less than that at ages 25-32, which makes sense coz I don't hang out with sorority/club girls or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:12 PM

Most single women in the age of 25-32 are looking for a long term guy to marry and not hooking up with randoms. Just be a normal guy with a good job
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:05 PM
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You were not just "questioning the topic" actually. There was a claim within the following quote. You're open about the cause, but stating that men want to be childless. Perhaps you didn't mean to say this, but you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:53 PM
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However would that sortve place her in a codependent bracket because she’s waiting around for her person to marry her and then have more children ? Yes. Biology (child bearing) has made humans codependent. We can and should give women the freedom to choose not to be mothers, but we should not discourage them if they choose to find someone who can provide the support that pregnancy and child-rearing requires. This also reinforces the societal pressure of why men typically have to be more solid an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:59 PM
0

What women are you talking about? So you're describing a woman who wants to bear and raise 3+ children but "won't tolerate men who are involved with the same freedom"? I mean yeah, if you're looking for a father to your children, you don't want him to quit his job randomly. That's just rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:51 PM
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Why shouldn't they have the freedom to do either?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:08 PM
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Definitely agree about being grateful. That being said, there's more than money when it comes to longer-term relationships. If you're a young woman looking to have 3+ children, I think it's totally fair to look for a man with a more established career than you, who can treat you (within reason). After all, if the woman is just going to abandon her career at 26 to have 4 children, then there's not much reason to go to Law school, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:04 PM
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Aren't lots of dating preferences "double standards"? Like, just because you're looking for a partner with black hair doesn't mean you have black hair. If you're a medical student, maybe you want to find a partner who is currently working so they can support you in the short term and then you support them later. There's really no reason that people should look for qualities that they don't possess
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:22 PM
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Good thing this sub doesn't reflect the reality of dating though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 12:30 PM
5

This is a great post *if* it's satirically mocking women who complain that they spend 100's of dollars on dating and that's why men should always pay for them. If it's sincere...then it's just silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:46 PM
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Lol to your edit. Yes women are more selective in who they fuck. That does not prove that they find the vast majority of men "unattractive". Also you deleted all your comments in our argument below? Hoping that's just a reddit bug, not that you were just that ashamed of your sad attempts to pivot
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:28 PM
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Right, the parent comment was a bitter guy with no evidence making a claim about attraction. You seemed to double down on his claim, even though there is no good evidence for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:25 PM
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Sometimes yes, but so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:10 PM
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Women don't generally date "for looks alone" so it's nonsensical to get bitter about not being and to get a girl based only on looks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:04 PM
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You're confused about the order lol. You made a claim you had no evidence for I asked if you have evidence You got upset because you don't
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 02:23 PM
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You made an extreme claim and your evidence is anecdotal, plus you're asking if I have evidence for the opposite, also extreme claim? Why do you assume the answer is extreme? How are so many men and women hooking up with each other throughout history if your extreme claim is true? Why are there still so many ugly people?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 02:18 PM
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Based on what, OKCupid likes?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 02:10 PM
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Why do you think only 5% of men are attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 02:08 PM
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Sure. Firstly I don't think there's just one reason someone uses an analogy, usually they are multiple. However, I think a common reason for using analogies is to make an experience more relatable. In these conversations, people sometimes have difficulty relating to people they feel they are in competition with (ie. Men and women in a sub like this). For example, men here seem to often feel that women don't empathize with the difficulties they have finding someone to appreciate them. So they use…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:21 PM
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If he used the word woman, would it still be an analogy??
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:52 PM
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Yes that is what an analogy is
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:49 PM
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"Logic" does not demand that a person be "fully yourself" in every imaginable context. You have not made a logical argument for that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 10:51 AM
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i dont know what those are
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 10:28 AM
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Society/men shame those acts, so why would a woman want to do them with the father of her children, whose respect she has to maintain in order to have a stable relationship? It's perfectly logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:50 AM
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Lots of guys where
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:26 AM
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It doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:13 AM
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You can look at it all you want, but you never have to be an asshole to gain leverage. Just don't be a pushover; set healthy boundaries and communicate them clearly. You don't have to play some political game all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:54 AM
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Not sure what youre saying, probably because "nice" is such a vague term. If you're talking about empathy, compassion, openness - these are beneficial to both partners. "Leverage" should not be your goal in your relationship with your future wife or husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:14 AM
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Being "nice" is valuable but not the be all and end all. In fact, sometimes it is actually just being Push over in disguise
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:30 AM
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If a study said that men are happier when they don't have sex and don't eat anything but raw vegetables, would you instantly adhere to those lifestyles?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 01:23 PM
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How difficult is it for an average man to be a woman's best lover if she's had over 10 lovers?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:31 AM
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Is that such a big difference? In one instance, you're paying for a meal (and ideally she still offers to pay all or half, but you politely insisted to pay) that you enjoy together as you get to know each other. In the other instance, you spend countless hours of your life building muscles and eating right to become eye candy for her to enjoy on the date. Certainly this requires much more input from the man than paying $50 for a meal. In both situations, you can look at the date as a transaction…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:40 PM
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Nobody said anything about a fat slob, obviously you can't max out one trait to make up for another. Men also don't want a woman who cooks well, does her makeup/hair etc. perfectly, is caring, but is super fat and messy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:11 PM
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That's why the top comment says to get your money right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:22 PM
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I generally agree, but you're still a virgin right? So it seems like your life may somewhat validate their perspective? If you were able to have sex finally at 35 easily then you'd be going against the trend at least. Are you trying to lose it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:20 PM
3

This is like asking "how does makeup make women attractive to men?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:16 PM
2

Are you out here dating or starting a family with a guy who can barely afford to support himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:15 PM
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What is "naturally" attracted? If you work out to gain muscles, is that natural? Women view the ability to gain and spend resources as a highly important and attractive trait. No reason to ignore one of the most important qualities women look for because of some weird principle
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:14 PM

Vast majority of women have no issue with you being nice overall. In fact it's a very common red flag if you're rude to waiters on a date. It's just that sometimes, being too nice comes off as being non-assertive. If you're confident and assertive, then it's very unlikely that being nice will be held against you. However, if you already look nerdy and like you might be a push over, then it can hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:37 AM
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Or take your sisters dog to the park lol, most single guys aren't ready for a dog
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 09:18 PM
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Lol you must be willfully misunderstanding my comments. Do you also think I said that the guys had multiple jobs each because I used the plural form of "job"? No, I was obviously saying that each guy had 1 job and 1 car, but I was referring to multiple guys... And yes, newsflash, most girls like to have some money spent when they're going on dates. I'm glad I was here to teach you that fact of life
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 01:01 AM
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Lol, so you're saying it's "extremely high value" to have a place to stay, a car and reliable income? My man, that is just being a functional adult when you're 30+.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 12:51 AM
5

Already did in the past, but usually just for fun as I usually didn't actually date much younger girls. But more telling is how a lot of the girls I used to hook up with told me about the other guys they were seeing, which were very often guys 5-10 years older, who had good jobs, cars and spent money on the dates
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 12:45 AM
9

Not true, it's a common phenomenon for women (particularly hot ones in my experience) around 19 to date older guys without them being "extremely" high value. If the 30 y.o. has a car, a place and disposable income, he's way ahead of the other 19 y.o guys in her classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 12:30 AM

If the list includes all men who want to fuck 19 year olds, it's going to be a pretty long list
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:01 PM

The resentment works in mysterious ways
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:53 PM

Not relative to other relationships. It's very normal for people's standards to change when they mature and especially when/if they focus their choices on building a family. Yeah, you might engage in less crazy sex since you're trying to find and impress the mother/father of your children, but that's not a bad thing, if your goal is a strong family.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:45 PM
3

I just don't see why that is necessary, but if you enjoy being a little flirty and your partner doesn't care then it's ok. If you're a man in a relationship and over the age of 25, your "dating value" is going to maintain a lot better than your female partner's value, especially before you have kids or get married; Tons of women aged 26-32 would kill for a financially and emotionally stable man to have a serious relationship and family with, and they would be flexible about your age, so you coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:15 AM
3

"debatable" ie. Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:10 AM
1

Not when it comes to serious relationships and marriage, which is what they're looking for (at approx 25-32) - and they need to find it much more quickly than a man, which also lowers their options further
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:09 AM
1

People do adjust their standards, but I wouldn't say that men are the ones who do so more often. Probably the category that does this the most is women whose biological clock is ticking (ie. 26-32), and their standards rapidly lower as they see their window for having kids shrink. Again I'm not aware that men are generally worse off or have less power. I believe they're more likely to cheat, right? Not that that statistic proves anything completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:01 AM
6

People have lots of motivations for the things they do, doesn't mean there's no love
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:54 AM
15

In most groups of girl friends (approx ages 25-32), there's one or two single girls who say this type of thing for a couple years, and then usually they find a guy they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:30 AM
7

He wouldn't be a good partner or father, which is what's important to most women after the age of 25
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:29 AM
4

Worst mistake you can make on Reddit is assuming it reflects real life (especially on this sub)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:28 AM
2

Because of the biological drive to have children or the fear of being alone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:27 AM
5

What are you on about? Women LOVE to get credit for setting people up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:20 PM
2

I admit that it's my personal experience against yours, so not sure why you're pretending you can "guarantee" anything. Also have you met gen z? I doubt they'll have a lot of relationships featuring "subservient women"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 02:01 PM
4

That is also becoming less common. Partnerships work the best when both individuals can take the reins based on the context/their skill set. Ie. One may be the "leader" when traveling, one in the kitchen, one in cleaning, one more successful at work, one in social situations etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 01:46 PM
3

Agreed. Like I said, they're good traits in any partner
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 04:24 AM
3

Are you saying that leadership is a female quality but not a male quality? Or just that it's not a sex-specific quality?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 04:06 AM
5

I'm a bit confused on what point you're trying to make about the provider/leader stuff but agree generally with what you're saying. Leadership and assertiveness are good qualities in any life partner, as those are important qualities for having a career, maintaining relationships and being a parent. Both men and women benefit from working on these skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:40 AM
13

Yes for sure, which makes sense because of economies around the world making it challenging or impossible for most to afford life with just one income
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:26 AM
1

You want me to "rebut" your personal anecdotes without knowing anything about you? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:14 AM
0

Are you claiming that women (ie billions of people) are all living in a fantasy land to the point they can't even understand when they're dumped? How many close female friends do you have vs close male friends? How many women do you know who have said "we broke up" despite you knowing that wasn't the case, and how did you know it wasn't the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 02:40 AM
3

About as rare as hearing that from a man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 10:51 PM
46

Women also tend to be a bit better when it comes to spin/marketing their side of the story
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:24 PM

What is the real-life context in which you're bringing up this preference, and how are you describing your preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:03 PM

People (red pill men) on this sub certainly do care lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:00 PM

What type of preferences should be suppressed in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:59 PM

Have you never heard guys using the term "butterface"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:57 PM
0

Pretty wild how far he wants to go to justify having no facts to back up his ideas
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:54 PM
7

Are you arguing that people who are searching for a life partner should not have standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:49 PM
4

Except that NIMBYs are concerned with their general neighborhood and property value, while people who are dating are evaluating the person that will be their life partner, parent to their children and have sex with them. Should they not have standards? Is there not such a thing as higher and lower value on the dating market?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:36 PM
1

Yeah well even if there were more women, I'd argue that it's not a healthy lifestyle anyways lol. I'd think most young men will learn quickly that they can't actually have a harem, and those that don't learn are likely to simply fail to pass on their genetics/background, which is a plus for the world too - right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:22 PM
1

uh ok, so what is your solution - to have no standards when searching for a life partner and co-parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:16 PM
1

Invalidating women's actions is based but that's not what's happening lol - I'm invalidating the misunderstanding that incels of that one piece of data. If you truly do know the data well enough to understand it, why don't you explain what age the participants were and what happened when a woman rated a man as attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:11 PM
2

I wasn't basing my argument off of him, just using him as a throwaway joke
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:03 PM
1

That is a common incel myth
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:34 PM
1

If you're a man who makes average income and wants to build a family with a strong monogamous relationship at the core, you'd be foolish to go for girls with 4/10 or less in leadership and assertiveness. Strong partners can express their boundaries, and strong parents are the most important leaders in a child's life. Very basic stuff. If you're just looking to hook up, obviously those qualities don't help a man unless you're sexually submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:48 PM
1

Now you're adding extra assumptions; obviously if a woman lists 1,000 qualities and expects you to be 10/10 in each quality, that's asking a lot (which she is perfectly entitled to do, as are you). However, that does not make it unreasonable whatsoever to look for a man that is a 6+/10 in assertiveness and leadership, as both qualities are incredibly useful for building a lifelong partnership and raising a family. A woman looking to build a family would actually be foolish to accept men with 4/1…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:45 PM
1

Assertiveness and leadership is not equal to perfection
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:30 PM
2

Lacking leadership and assertiveness is a terrible quality in a partner, whether male or female, so it's very logical for women to prefer men who do not lack those qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:01 PM
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Those are also called bad men to date. Leadership is a very useful quality for both men and women, and basically nobody wants to be the "leader of the relationship" 100% of the time (except for Andrew Tate)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:54 PM
6

Not much of an argument lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:07 PM
5

You have not done that whatsoever. Here's the definition I gave, though I'm open to other accepted definitions if you think it'd better make your point: "Hedonism is the belief that pleasure is the most important thing or at least a very important aspect of life". You argued that "having sex outside of conception because you enjoy it makes you a hedonist since you're putting PLEASURE before FUNCTIONALITY". You have not explained or argued how "putting pleasure before functionality" *in the insta…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:53 PM
0

But what is the value?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:39 PM
4

I do not claim hedonism to be "bad", I simply understand the basic definition. Even if I grant that the "function" of sex exclusively to make babies, that has nothing to do with whether someone values physical pleasure foremost in their life. Your logic makes no sense at all, and by your logic, there is no man or woman alive who is not a hedonist: a hammer's function is to hit nails, but do I suddenly become a hedonist (one who values pleasure foremost in life) if I throw a hammer in the air for…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:38 PM
0

how many flavors should one try?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:33 PM
3

Not true; Enjoying things occasionally or even often does not make you a hedonist. Hedonism is the belief that pleasure is the most important thing or at least a very important aspect of life. One can enjoy things while believing that physical pleasure is not among the most important pursuits in life. For example, an Orthodox Jew may spend his life avoiding bacon cheese burgers because he believes more strongly in his religion than in the value of the pleasure he would get from the burger. Yet, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:27 PM
1

Why
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:23 PM

Wanting to have someone spend money on you is very different from feeling the urge or being pressured by society into spending money on someone else. Those are entirely different things, despite your simple analysis that both are "still caring about money". That's reality bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:41 AM

More than men "use" women for sex, kids, personal chefs etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:18 AM

The flab would be the problem, not the other stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:16 AM

I agree that men and women probably care about it equally, but in the context of dating, women definitely care more. Like most guys would be happy getting a coffee on multiple dates if the women was hot and fun. I mean they might complain that it's boring, but not that it's cheap
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:15 AM
0

Ah I see what you mean. Definitely different situations from my perspective as a man, though I don't know if looks matching is relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:34 AM
1

Show me then, who argued that it was a difficult concept to grasp?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:26 PM
2

Nobody is saying that the idea is difficult to understand lol, so your explanation makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:22 PM

I made my point very clearly, if you can't understand that preschoolers are not a strong authority to cite in your argument, then there's probably nothing I can do for you Right, so that second paragraph is your actual argument which you were obfuscating behind preschoolers; your actual argument is that an opinion which is popular is therefore correct - but that's also a bad argument, because popularity does not determine morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:57 PM

"preschoolers know x" is one of the worst arguments imaginable; you can teach preschoolers anything you want. If a preschooler in Gaza tells you Jews are the devil, would you believe them? Or would you ask what propaganda is being shown to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:16 PM
1

Wait what are you saying about asking a woman out?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:13 PM

Women generally feel the same way about men - they usually don't want a man who has had sex with 50+ women, even though every man has wanted to fuck 1000+ It just happens that for most men, they don't actually have the opportunity to have that much sex (without paying)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:31 PM
1

What were those relationships like?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:57 AM
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Op asked about dating, not how to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:40 AM

Yeah it's one of the last few posts in your profile
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:25 PM

Um it's probably cuz of the head thing, but I'm sure being a bit of an asshole doesn't help. Hopefully you're 10/10 hot at least lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:18 PM
2

Very interesting stuff and I appreciate the realistic approach you take. If you have time, I'd be interested to hear more specifics from your experience or people you know with the schools in particular. Or whether you have a problem with charter schools in theory (if we imagine them existing in a system with less corruption to start out with)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:16 PM

All fair, although I'm not sure that "othering" is necessarily a bad thing. I think it can be done in a positive way, and is probably necessary to build strong community. For example, if I belong to an Orthodox Jewish synagogue, I specifically am acting differently from non Jews and from less Orthodox Jews. In many of the ways we practice, we are indeed setting ourselves apart - and that's exactly why we feel connected to each other - because we share in our differences. It's like outcasts getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:01 PM
1

Fair enough, I'd be interested in hearing those takes and appreciate/recognize that you don't have the data off hand while at work. I'm not American so I have little in the way of anecdotal/qualitative experience of American schooling
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:52 PM
1

Doesn't really negate my point, but I'm happy to hear you out if you have some facts behind your claim
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:14 PM

Yep for sure. We can all agree that taking NFTs or astrology too seriously makes people of either sex pretty weird
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:22 PM

Yes, they can be open, but they can also be both not open and popular - that was my point Awesome If you explained that you don't actually believe in the claims of astrology but look at it for fun anyways, most people would think that's fine, if a little strange
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:51 PM

I don't understand your reply tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:48 PM

Care to elaborate? I don't know any women who want a weak willed man who never challenges her, they typically pity that type of guy and don't recommend them to their friends unless they're desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:37 PM

No, popular men are not necessarily open (sociopaths can be very popular); they just have the ability to appropriately respond to different situations, in this case being a girl who they think may not be very intelligent. That being said, I do think most well adjusted people would not completely dismiss someone's intelligence based on just astrology (depending on how much they believe in it) Astrology is pseudo science which makes claims about the world - video games and anime do not. That's why
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:22 PM

I guess I personally don't equate petty intolerance with hate. For example, Jews of different levels of orthodoxy do judge each other all the time, but it's definitely not based on hate, overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:06 PM

Fair enough, I recognize that my language was not precise enough. To clarify, I was referring to religious people in liberal western democratic countries. I personally know nothing about dating culture in Saudi Arabia or China, and I imagine that religion plays a very different role in different cultures. I would also exclude recent immigrants and others who are not assimilated to liberal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:56 PM
0

How are you defining liberalism? You realize that there's a lot of variation in how "liberals" think and especially between liberals and "progressives"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:46 PM
-2

Being soft on crime, anti-charter school, anti-gun, anti-self defense, pro drug, anti-religion etc. are not qualities that are critical to having a functioning city center.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:45 PM
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That's not going to help you succeed in a long term relationship with a girl who has (she/they) in her bios
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:41 PM
1

Oh that's super interesting!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:32 PM

Yeah I'd certainly agree, although I've personally never experienced any real disrespect on dates I've been on, political or otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:31 PM
2

Fair point, but you could also say the opposite, that men get annoyed when women want a relationship in addition to sex. So it depends on the man and their situation in life really. I wouldn't say overall that men prefer to be sexualized with additional baggage
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:22 PM

Yep and I could've guessed from those clues that she is also woke and anti Israel, which obviously doesn't matter to everyone, but does to me. If I were on a date with her, I'd be grateful she mentioned astrology so I could promptly put her in the "no thanks" category
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:19 PM
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Yeah fair enough, anecdotes will probably show variation. Here's a quote from a PhD in mating psychology and relationships in Psychology Today: Men and women are just as picky about long-term mates, but men are less picky about short-term ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:17 PM
5

Don't you think most men would mostly enjoy being sexualized by hot women, even if it's only as a sex object?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:58 PM
3

Also because there's just a lot of truth to the idea that men will shag anything with a pulse. Obviously it's not literally true, but compared to women, it practically is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:57 PM

Yeah great point. In my experience, the girls that were most interested in me were the ones who were actively teasing me about things. The others were much less playful and disinterested, so why would they care to tease me?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:50 PM

Well that's Redditors lol, it's obviously a huge stereotype that Redditors are the guys that say "well actually" to any statement. In reality though, I think it does make sense, if the girl brings up astrology on a first date or asks your sign, to go along with it, have some fun with it, and make a light-hearted joke about it. If she takes the joke in good spirits, then it's all good. If she gets offended at the slightest criticism, then you've got a red flag on your hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:48 PM

Depends what we mean by insult. We're talking about a first date, so a light joke criticizing the predictive power of astrology is actually the most appropriate way to express yourself honestly. A first date isn't a time to seriously lecture your date on the nature of logic, science and empiricism
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:39 PM

Did you already answer about flat earth - would you respect a man, on a date with you, who's hobby is flat earth research (and it's not ironic)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:36 PM

True that popular and well adjusted men don't feel the need to insult people personally or get all "well actually" all the time, but they do often make innocent jokes and often do find astrology to be a red flag. So the problem is often women that can't take a joke and/or are insecure about their belief in astrology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:27 PM

You shouldn't judge an entire gender based on reactions on Reddit. Try going to r/askfeminists as a man and ask why women are so mean to you when you bring up Football or Christianity (or something more controversial like Joe Rogan or Jordan Peterson). See how polite they are to you and then judge all women based on that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:23 PM

That isn't true of the vast majority of people who practice religion
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:02 PM

You're describing a fairly small number of men when you talk about the matrix and NFTs. And regarding the period blood and soy myths, yes those are more things that men believe, but every population has myths like that which they just don't have the mental energy to fact check - we don't know everything and that's ok
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:01 PM
4

Because one of the risks of sex is pregnancy lol, simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:51 AM

What makes you think that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:10 PM
1

"more" implies an existing body of evidence - therefore, your "fix" doesn't make sense since we're talking about multiple sources and at least two women, likely many more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 02:08 PM
1

Ok dude
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:31 PM
1

Why are you getting angry about simple follow-up questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:41 PM
1

Why is that relevant? Are you saying that there are Subway ads on paid porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:10 PM
1

Why would it be any different than ads on porn sites today? Ie. Milfs in your area, links to paid porn etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:18 PM
2

I agree that girls working at Walmart aren't normally dating rich guys, but it's fairly normal for a 8+/10 girl from a middle-class family to date up for wealth. She's not working McDonald's, but she's also not exactly making the big bucks, probably in some white collar role like graphic designer
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:38 PM
1

No, fat women are much more similar. Many of the most beautiful women as selected by our society are tall (actors and especially models). That is not the case with short men or fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:28 PM
1

Tall women are considered beautiful by most men although some are intimidated by it. The struggle is hardly comparable to short men who are almost universally looked at as less attractive (but of course that's just one trait among many)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:26 PM
2

... Have you ever been in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:20 PM
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