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Discussionhealththrow345/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 09:42 PM
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DUMP HIS ASShealththrow345/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 01:16 PM
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Most women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 05:39 AM
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Actually it does. As a woman I didn't think much about the looks of my offspring. Now that I'm dating, I am much more picky than previously. I want my children to have the best shot in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:48 AM
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Why is San Diego third?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:36 AM
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Or because it is the center of the fashion and art industry .....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:33 AM
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I was interested until you said he's 6'7. Lol way too tall. I'm also a petite female virgin software engineer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:23 AM
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Sorry, virgin men and women are ideal partners. I'm a virgin woman and a man is only high value to me if I find him attractive and he's a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:23 AM
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Thankfully women can now divorce their cheating husbands. Most men in history were supposedly religious yet cheated. So much so the Bible has a clause that tells women to divorce their cheating husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:19 AM
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They're lying, https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-road-to-infidelity-passes-through-multiple-sexual-partners
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:18 AM
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Not true, studies show the more partners a man has the more likely he is to cheat. https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-road-to-infidelity-passes-through-multiple-sexual-partners
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:16 AM
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There are no shortage of uk in*els.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:44 AM
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No, it's also a defense mechanism. If women told the truth they'd most likely be physically attracted by rejected men. It happens every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 12:35 AM
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I'm an engineer. Thankfully a woman. I see my coworkers struggle. It's not the money it's the personality you guys have to work on. Lots of introverts and awkwardness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 10:29 PM
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Engineers habe it hardest in dating according to okcupid study. It's not a sexy profession like Doctor, Lawyer or Firefighter. GL.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:59 PM
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For upper middle class yes. Their divorce rates hover around 20% or less. They choose the best partners and have the most marital discipline. Studies show they're the main ones getting and staying married today.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:58 PM
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Not really. Attractive people are more likely to be wealthier on average. Case in point, NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:28 AM
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Jeff Bezos ex wife marries school teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:25 AM
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So men feel masculine providing for women. Like paying for dates,etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:20 AM
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Old post but are black men in high demand? In black marriages the women earn 25k more than husband. Studies show they don't have as many options as white men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:39 AM
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They love to exaggerate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:36 AM
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Then they'd get killed. There's a reason women soften up what they truly intend. Just use Google to see how many honest women are killed or hit for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:49 PM
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Ok, so same with women. Most don't care to date you all they just feel neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:47 PM
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Because most women who marry as virgins don't become the freaks men imagine they would be. I've done plenty of research on this. Virgin women like myself have our own baggage and it's typically a toxic view on sex. There's been studies on this. The fact that I'm still a virgin late 20s is sure sign enough that sex may never be a priority. Yet men still fantasize. Don't be surprised just pray for an outlier🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:44 PM
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They aren't. I'm one and know first hand. Also, men used to cheat and beat their wives much more than current times. Doesn't sound chivalrous to me. Imagine cheating on your former virgin wife. No appreciation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:39 PM
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This is why I can't date a man I find unattractive no matter how nice of a personality. I've also seen same on askwomen 90% said it's the worst decision and they never wanted to do anything intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 07:13 AM
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If that's what makes you sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 11:06 AM
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Not surprised. I've seen this stat often.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:50 AM
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I posted 3 links. Who cares when it was. I know plenty of women like myself who find high n count men disgusting because call it toxic or not, I don't want his past soul ties and dirty deeds affecting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:34 AM
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Even this person can literally be me as I'malso a 20 something virgin female who prefers her equal, https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/3fe054/cant_get_over_the_fact_that_my_boyfriend_isnt_a/ Her too: https://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/7hynjd/my_boyfriend19_is_not_a_virgin_and_its_killing_me/ Her: https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/cf6c4p/i_am_finding_it_hard_to_accept_that_my_bf_is_not/ I relate to all these women because we have similar standards. Obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:28 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/am25i8/fianc%C3%A9e_upset_that_im_not_a_virgin/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:25 AM
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You should be skeptical. I'm a virgin woman and wouldn't even date (let alone marry 🤢) a man with 15+ partners and that's being generous. Ideally another virgin or less than 5 bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:22 AM
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This has been repeated often. Low n count women or virgins prefer their equals. High n count dont care. Just check reddit. Numerous posts of angry virgin women mad their partners had sex before meeting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:14 AM
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Nope, as a virgin woman I've had multiple men change their minds after initial interest. It's only ideal to other virgin men or insecure men who don't want me to compare them to another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:11 AM
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As a virgin, I prefer a virgin man but if he's not attractive to me, I'd stick with a low n man(<5). Virgin is preferable but unrealistic now that I'm mid 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:07 AM
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It's about shared values. I would never settle for a former male hoe. That's gross to me and I'd feel dirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:04 AM
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Literally my life story 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 06:59 AM
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😂😂😂 except I'm very beautiful? I have gotten no shortage of male and female attention my whole life. *voluntary celibacy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 06:58 AM
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Old post but educated women have higher marriage rates. I'd assume this leads to children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 10:51 PM
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I was saying the men with that mindset are the delusional ones.....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 10:41 PM
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Exactly, they are delusional. Women are still picky over 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 07:53 PM
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Yes but studies show for the aggregate, its 2.3 years age difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 07:47 PM
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Exactly my point. Women aren't just gonna marry a man with money. They need to bring more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 07:43 PM
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It's only great if I was their only partner too if not then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 07:42 PM
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Because it's only special when both partners are virgin. If not, what's the point? I'd like to experience others but I'd only sacrifice my curiosity for a man who also is one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 07:40 PM
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No, I'm in tech, women are over the entitlement, awkwardness, monolith tech guy. The one's who typically have great looks and personality don't have a problem though. I wouldn't call many of them ugly just neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 06:39 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 06:01 AM
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Very accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:55 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:49 AM
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I feel for him. He wants to experience other partnerships. However he may regret his decision as I've seen these posts on reddit numerous times. Other men did the same and either couldn't get what they wanted or regretted losing their love. Sucks bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:44 AM
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Why would I hire an escort? I know plenty of men I could sleep with. I just unfortunately started my dating life during the pandemic and it's been tough since I don't enjoy online dating. I prefer in person. I know it would suck because I've read numerous reddit posts of virgins who married partners with history and regret it or married people who said they wosh they got to experience others before commitment. It's definitely a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:41 AM
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I have met plenty of red pill men in the last year. Not so fds women as it's not as big yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:36 AM
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What sucks is that's my predicament lol. A 27 yo female virgin. I definitely fantasize about playing the field and it'd suck to have one partner my whole life. I had a girlfriend in a similar predicament. Both grew up religious. It'd only be worth it if the man was a virgin too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:33 AM
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Or she was busy living her life and had no opinion of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:27 AM
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So why are men in tech so single? Many even have youth. They have the assets so clearly it's more that women look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:25 AM
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The same article also says those young women only find men their own age attractive. So how will men 10 years older get them without being rich? They won't, and will "settle" for 30s women. Average relationship gap is 2 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:20 AM
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This. I know plenty of 30s average men with even 6 figures who can't get married. They have no options. Many aren't even ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:17 AM
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Not necessarily. Medium age gaps have higher divorce rates. A gap of 5 years increases divorce by 18%, 10 years by 40%. That means a 35 year old man marrying a 25 year old has a 70% chance of divorce if we are basing it on the already 50% divorce rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:21 PM
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Medium size is still about 15% majority are 1-4 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:18 PM
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They settle for what they can get. Men find a much larger percentage of women attractive due to biology, opposite for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 01:24 PM
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Assortative mating says men marry in their class and always have barring 2 previous generations where they had more leeway. They have sex with all classes but marry their equal class.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 01:23 PM
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This has been documented in the black community already.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 01:20 PM
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Because they have access to lots of sex with multiple people and still want the rush that cheating would get them. It's not lack of sex that makes people cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 01:16 PM
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Easy to say when you don't live it. Most felt suffocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 01:14 PM
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Yes. When the average man had no consequences marital rape was common, domestic violence normalized, alimony became a thing because average men traded in their old wives for younger women when the opportunity presented itself. Ugly men are typically more prone to violence due to lack of socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 01:04 PM
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Most stable women aren't attracted to "bad boys". Studies already show attractive men and women on average have better personalities and are more nice. That's been documented. I'm in a male dominated field filled with nerds but the most attractive nerd is just that attractive. He is not bad, he is physically attractive. Men on the internet love to personify Chad as this bad guy. The kindest men ive met who were relationship oriented were mostly Chads. Thee end.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 12:58 PM
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Yep, there was a post here about what men really want. They want casual sex ,not early marriage to one girl the rest of their lives but to experience sex with different women. How can you sympathize that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 12:46 PM
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Same can be said about women only being hardwired to be sexually attracted to the top percentage of men. Biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 12:44 PM
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Exactly this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 12:42 PM
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Complete opposite. It's the least feminist country in the world. A woman rejected a man can have her disfigured.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 12:40 PM
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Men don't divorce because they are the main winners in a marriage. Studies already show this. They have a second mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 12:38 PM
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Except studies show even polyamorous relationships have cheating. It has nothing to do with lack of sex but the need to test the waters and be selfish. Use Google. Lots of open relationships involve cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 12:37 PM
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"Marital duty", then men complain there's no enthusiasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:11 AM
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If married men want casual sex with other women their aim shouldn't be marriage but bachelorhood. Plenty of marriages have healthy sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:08 AM
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This is my fear as well. I'm a virgin and the thought of high n count men petrifies me. I worry I'd feel tarnished by those types.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:58 AM
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Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:53 AM
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Same. Glad to know it's not just a religion thing. I feel same way but more so because I want someone like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:52 AM
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As a virgin, yes. If I had a high count I wouldn't care but anything over 10 is not my cup of tea. I've stopped talking to people when I found out their history. It's a huge turn off but more to do with my own values.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:51 AM
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Not black women. Married black women are the least hypergamous group. On average they make 25k more than their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:48 AM
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The bible belt has the highest divorce rates. Over 60% by age 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:43 AM
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It's funny considering 60% of women between 20-25 divorce by 30. "Wife material" 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:40 AM
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It's actually 30 now and that average is skewed towards those who marry early and divorce by 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:35 AM
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😂😂😂 so freaking true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:33 AM
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The best birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:27 AM
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I've noticed men just do drink dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:03 AM
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There's also a reason countries with arranged marriages have the most deadbedrooms. Someone posted a study here that showed men in India had the least marital sex in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 04:38 AM
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Women can now leave marriages where their husband cheated, beat or sexually assaulted them. Men are more likely to be held accountable for cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 04:35 AM
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If attraction was negotiable more than 40% of men in history would have passed down yheir genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 04:33 AM
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Lol, I didnt lead him on in the slightest. Told him I was romantically interested in someone else from the moment he told me. Not my fault he still wanted to "maintain the friendship ".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 04:30 AM
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Nope, dead bedrooms shows attraction can't be forced. Plenty of men in history had to pay prostitutes at brothels to get sex. Yes men don't have to settle. They can remain single. Most men in history never reproduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:49 PM
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It appears men, the leaders, rely on women for their own morality. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:31 AM
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Exactly, the "logical sex" seems to do more decision making with thirst in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:29 AM
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He'll have to settle for a sexless marriage. You can't force attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:26 AM
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Exactly. Tried hard to like a guy who checked off lots of good qualities but I didn't find him sexually attractive. Just the thought of kissing repulsed me as I just saw him as a friend. If I had to marry him it'd definitely be dead bedrooms. Shoot even dry lips. Definitely wouldn't even bother giving birth so no point at all to marry either. He'd be better off single.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:24 AM
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Is there any data on the boomer men leaving wives? Video didn't show a study.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:18 AM
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Virgin and low n count 100% care. Sex positive women don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:39 AM
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Yep, especially virgin and low n count women. We're definitely more judgmental on that front.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:38 AM
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Just means less young women in the near future who all ages of men will be fighting for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:33 AM
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Yep this was me. First kiss at 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:29 AM
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No women just want to be sexually attracted to their partners in the way men are to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:25 AM
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Are we forgetting female virginity rates have increased in the last decade?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:23 AM
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Saw a video about this the other day on a redpill channel. Their conclusion was that in the future men will be fighting over the few young women born. They'd have to go abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:28 AM
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Exactly. They don't desire old flesh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 07:13 AM
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Age gaps have high divorce rates. The closer he is in age the more likely to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 06:32 PM
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Nope only 4% date 5 years older. 76% date within 3 year max and younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 06:22 PM
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Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:27 AM
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Good question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 06:09 AM
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Nope, statistically more and more women are dating men younger than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 06:05 AM
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Except in the free market women choose who they want not who they have to marry to survive. Big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 05:49 AM
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Age gap of women and their partners in their 20s is on average 2 years difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 05:49 AM
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I'm more interested in the fact that such a high number of men divorced their wives for younger women 50 years ago. Sounds like red pill hypergamy. The tables have turned.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 05:43 AM
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Same with men. Check out videos of black guys asking men their preferences. Whether body type or skin tone they all parrot same as friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:54 AM
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Mexican men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:51 AM
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Literally less than .05% of the female population has onlyfans
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:50 AM
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Same. Mid 20s and biggest gap I've seen among friends is 6 years but the guy is a Chad and 31.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:48 AM
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Depends, a woman in a male dominated field has an increased smv just based on her being rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:45 AM
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Yep same. Over 30 feels old.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:43 AM
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Go to NYC, watch non Asian men of color. You'll see it about 50 times in an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:40 AM
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So you may be above average in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:31 AM
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Which country is this more normal? Typically only in impoverished communities where the family sells the girl or she seeks shelter. Is this in the west?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:30 AM
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Dated 21 year olds or women near your age?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:25 AM
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More cope. I'd rather marry the virgin social awkward 28 year old tech bro than a 45 year old man. There is no 27 year old female who would settle for that old.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:23 AM
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Exactly. Average child support is $280 a month in the USA. A woman pays much more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:05 AM
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Except abortions are detrimental to the female body so she loses much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:58 AM
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So I assume no red pill there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:57 AM
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Yes but is it realistic to base all of our male western desire from the 70s,80s and 90s? That's such a short period and not realistic. It couldn't have lasted forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:56 AM
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Do you really think men desired settling down at 18? This is heavily documented that they did not. Free love was driven by men first and foremost.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:54 AM
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Exactly my point. They didn't enjoy sex with their unattractive husbands at all. Those who were lucky to marry for love experienced real passion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:52 AM
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So the 1970s were peak western civilization for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:51 AM
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Oh, I didnt write that. It's from wikipedia describing sex in medieval times. Where is your alternative point from?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:48 AM
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But those women married men around their age who wanted to explore before settling down. Many men pushed the idea that monogamy was unnatural.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:45 AM
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😂😂😂 true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:43 AM
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Yes but free love occurred during the 20th century no? That's why I need examples from before the 1900s people slowly got more and liberal thank to BC. I need a time period older.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:55 AM
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Can you give me an example of the average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:51 AM
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That's why it's cmv, I'm looking for more data on the sex life of average women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:50 AM
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The most important piece of a woman's sexuality did not directly relate to what women believed about their own sexuality, but more so the roles assigned to them through the beliefs and decrees of the Church, the law, and men. These three entities came to define female sexuality and sexual identity in the Middle Ages. However, sex and sexuality were in themselves seen as sins, regardless of the circumstances under which they were performed or demonstrated. The sin of women's sexual immorality, lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:49 AM
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Ok but change my mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:46 AM
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Every time I Google what sex was like for majority of women in history, duty sex and lack of interest comes up. This is a change my mind as I'm sure there must be more information out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:45 AM
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You're telling me men don't prefer missionary? Oral? Enthusiasm in the bedroom? Etc? They'd rather a look of disgust or dead eyes on a flesh light?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 12:02 AM
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Average men didn't create those, they acquiesced to it. The top 10% of men made the laws. They had power, influence and money. Just like how wealthy white men created segregation to make Irish slaves feel superior to black slaves. Average men have been pawns.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 12:00 AM
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Exactly why I'm arguing pre free love movement. I don't believe 2 generations is enough evidence to show it works long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:58 PM
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1 Any particular scriptures you have? 2 Yes marital rape was legal, another thing to add to the list of women being disgusted by their "husbands ". 3 & 4 Yes, average men("good guys") treated their low n count wives like trash because society didn't punish them. 5 Yes, male genitalia is removed but they still feel pleasure. The women in remote parts of Ethiopia feel nothing but torture with every thrust. Not one bit of pleasure. Their husbands also sew up and slice open the private parts of thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:55 PM
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You must mean the last 2 generations. If so, I'd argue that was a historical sweet spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:51 PM
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Data?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:51 PM
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I think this depends on whether they had contraceptives available and whether the women were legitimately attracted to their husbands sexually and not the typical marriage for survival. Europe is pretty liberal but pre free love?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:51 PM
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The western world pre sexual revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:48 PM
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So basically rich people with status enjoyed sex? I mean they're still the top % of men. Most research on the average man shows him slaving away 14+ hours a day and brothel visits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:47 PM
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Lol this is not what they want. They got a flesh light. Remember, people showered 2x a year at most.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:45 PM
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Very true. Marital rape was legal up until the 90s. In many cultures it still is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:43 PM
2

I'd argue both by today's standards. Men want the p*rn fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:43 PM
8

Exactly, so maybe it makes more sense to legalize prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:41 PM
5

Or we can read actual manuscripts of the time. Lots of history has been written down, especially western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:40 PM
1

Valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:39 PM
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It's funny because Japanese women are viewed as how western women are supposed to be to "get a man", but they're in an even worse state without feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:53 PM
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So in order for the average man to feel powerful society has to handicap women? Makes sense. Every day I realize how much history has lied to women about what they are capable of. It's all been a farse to feed the male ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:51 PM
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Yep, just google "boyfriend not virgin reddit" tons odmf angry posts by virgin women mad their boyfriends, husbands, etc aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:34 AM
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For me yes. It looks suspicious. 9/10 he doesn't have a good career and if a woman is looking for a relationship she assumes he's a hoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:08 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:04 AM
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According to GSS study, it's a minority percentage of both men and women have 50-60% of the sex that's happening. Female virginity has also increased in the last 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:03 AM
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Depends on what's considered "good". At age 32 that's considered ideal age of lowest chance of divorce. Anything before age 25 and that's a divorce by 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:08 AM
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Not sure about that. Lots of men believe that until they take the 'agepill'. I've watched numerous tiktoks on blckpill channels where they show young women disgusted at even men in their 30s hitting on them. When you're early 20s anyone over 30 is old.Most young women stay within a 3 year age difference. This has been since the 1950s and closing ever so slightly now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:06 AM
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Men want fit women but traditionally a woman working out, sweating, putting on the slightest but of muscle was masculine. How traditional is traditional? Abstinence till marriage? Asking father's for hand in marriage? In modern times people have more expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:02 AM
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Not really, typically college educated are higher earners on average and unless their is a massive salary gap and she becomes a sah for 10 years, it's highly unlikely as you're both losing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:41 PM
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Depends on your demographic. College educated? 29% divorce rates. Bad but still worth risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 11:59 AM
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Jeff Bezos was a top dog on wallstreet and already a six figure high earner before marrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 11:38 AM
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Average women are pretty celibate too. Just by choice. Pareto exists for women. I think less men overall aren't getting any because of paranoia.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:15 AM
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Bezos was a top dog on wall street. Not sure about others. I don't think status helps much with no looks but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 12:13 AM
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False. Tell that to men in tech making 300k a year but still single. Women want looks, personality and success. Money alone won't help. Jeff Bezos, bill gates, warren Buffett all had average wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:11 PM
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Attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:05 PM
3

For example a typical comment under a red pill YouTube video, "I am a high value man, according to Kevin Samuels, and I think...." or some variation of this. It's so sick. Especially when I work in tech and know so many "high value men " who earn an insane amount of money but they can't attract women. These men are listening to certain gurus and thinking well he say I have this and this so surly I am this. Or "I have none of this so am low value". Not necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:01 PM
1

Wow didn't think of this 😥
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:58 PM
1

Misery loves company.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:56 PM
2

Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:55 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:32 PM
3

Did I say it started it or that it exacerbated it? I clearly said technology AND the pandemic. I am aware of this space over 10 years now. I just realized over the pandemic most people I know learned about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:15 PM
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Yes, I find it particularly concerning with men looking towards gurus to determine whether they are "high value" or not. Another way to box people in. Classism as always existed but this is another level and people are internalizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:13 PM
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Np.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 10:55 AM
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Tbh these requirements sound normal to me but I'll admit I live in a bubble of high earning engineers so them doing all that is considered default with the men I know. Some cities just have high earning professionals. It's not unrealistic at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 10:35 AM
1

Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 10:24 AM
1

Sammmmeeee.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:11 AM
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6th grade for me 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:10 AM
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And this study: https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:49 AM
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Yes pareto exists for women according to GSS study. Small percentage of women have 50% of all sex. "But even assuming the GSS data is correct, we can ask if another piece of the incel narrative is true. Do a few Chads and Stacies really monopolize the market for sex? Many incels quote a rule of thumb that 20% of men have 80% of the sex. Is this true? It turns out, the answer is no. And of course, it isn’t! Imagine how much sex those 20% of men would have to be having! A substantial share would n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:43 AM
3

Same lol. Gotta protect the future offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:40 AM
2

Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:24 AM
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This is what I'm doing right now. If you weren't all in when I was interested don't come back a year later asking for a relationship. Not gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:23 AM
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Low n women like myself desire low n men. It's high n women who prefer high n men. Don't confuse the 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:21 AM
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Absolutely. In fact I did do that. 2x this year. Never made it to 3rd date with both guys. Instant turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:05 PM
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YOGA
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:47 AM
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They just get non participating robots. 0 validation. They're not alphas. Will never understand true desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:33 PM
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I think mgtow is much more hateful than black pill guys. Sure some are extremists but most just sound sad, depressed and suicidal. Even as a woman I really feel for them because a lot are genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:04 AM
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Nah, I've seen them praise the Taliban.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:53 AM
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So true. Entire YouTube channels too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:51 AM
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Reddit leans male
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:50 AM
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Yep, higher for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:49 AM
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Is this saying more and more black guys are having less sex? So like 10% of black men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:48 AM
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Depends on circle. Lots of black people are more religious on average than whites.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:47 AM
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Pareto also says a minority of women are having the majority of sex as well 😂😂😂 pareto isn't only for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:36 AM
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Muslims because the incels are becoming more and more like Taliban supporters every day.i see their comments all over YouTube about how the Muslims are controlling their women "right". Male thirst is dangerous and I'd argue the #1 reason men follow religion isn't for their own spirituality but to control women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:33 AM
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Yep, NYC professional women are creme de la creme.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:39 AM
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I'm shocked they'd even use this as an example as he's clearly an attractive man who most likely also had relationships. Half the comments are girls simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:09 AM
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If we go by dating app data by young women it'd be men their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:58 AM
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Those large age gaps are actually among second marriages between older couples or wealthy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:57 AM
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The chance of a man getting married after 37 plummet if we're talking statistics. I've never met a woman my age who was attracted to a man 10 years older because he was stable. Only hot older men are typically considered by young women. Millionaire>Looks>stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:46 AM
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*And are facially attractive as that's what attracts young women. If they were hot in 20s and maintained hotness to 40, they'll still be good but quite rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:42 AM
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Dataclysm study says women up until age 39 find men their own age attractive. At 40+ they prefer men younger. Either way to a woman 2-3 years is "older" which is why average gap is only 2 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:40 AM
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Depends, African, Latin, Russian, Korean and Middle eastern men pay. Europe is another world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:31 AM
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Hmm, a past where men beat their wives, cheated at higher rates, spousal rape was legal, controlled finances so she couldn't leave....how "perfect".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:27 AM
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Literally me. I've been voluntarily sexless my whole life. I'm pretty fulfilled. Traveled, high pay job, friends. Not everything is Chad. I'd never sleep with one unless he offered commitment. I'm just not eager to date anyone just to not be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:21 AM
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Yep I do that as a virgin lol. People are forgetting female virginity rates have also increased, not to the extent of men though. Also, a small percentage of women have the majority of heterosexual casual sex , just like men. This was in the GSS study.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:17 AM
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Wow, is there further data?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:03 AM
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Age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:58 AM
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This sounds like black pill, but as a woman I agree. Looks is first on my list.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:53 AM
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Lie? Don't perpetrators of violence of both men and women come from men? Both men and women are physically scared of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:13 AM
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You do realize most of those charities are run and operated by women right? Especially male victims of sexual abuse. Of course women victims are more funded, statistically they are the most attacked. If men cared, they'd be volunteering at the rates women are. However it seems to be imbalanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:59 AM
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Really? So many married virgin women have cheating husbands. I've seen some pretty bitter women who married nonvirgin men on christianity subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:42 AM
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She never had "good sex". Female sexuality was shamed which is why women played a passive role of starfish sex in the bedroom. It was called "wifely duty" because women had to be pressured to lay down and take it. Active female sexual participation became a thing during sexual revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:39 AM
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Wow, thanks for saving me from this mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:34 AM
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Shamed? It's opposite. So many Youtubers want to be housewives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:27 AM
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Is that why brothels full of married men never existed in most of history?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:11 AM
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Didn't women in previous generations have higher rates of domestic violence and marital rape but they were paired of with average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:59 AM
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Back in the day it was still less than 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:57 AM
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Nah, broke chads aren't attractive to women with their lives in order. Average earning chad is in demand, rich chad is swimming.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:54 AM
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No it hasn't. I'm a woman in tech who earns a lot. I have access to men even my age who make 200k TC a year however I'd gladly take a man who makes 70k and isn't socially awkward, intelligent while also physically attractive to me. We find middle ground. I have plenty of female techies who do same If they can't find a guy in tech they like they date other fields. Some tech men and women just prefer to date outside of the tech bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:53 AM
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Chad doesn't have to be rich, he just can't be poor. 50k is sufficient for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:50 AM
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Exactly, they call it "age pill" and men, "agecel".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:48 AM
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I agree. I'm in tech with other 6 figure earning men who have access to even higher earning older men. They often choose average earning guys in tech or unrelated fields that they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:46 AM
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Lots of teen girls don't have that high school experience either. Female virginity rates increased 40%.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:44 AM
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Same for me which makes me even more wary of older men interested in me. I feel they're trying to steal my youth and discard in 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:43 AM
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Statistically it's 1%. Also statistically they divorce 95%.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:40 AM
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Average age gap in last 100 years is 4 years. In last 20 it's 2 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:39 AM
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Why blame feminism? Growing up it wasn't feminism that made me more attracted to guys my age. I've only related to it by definition but modern feminism no. It's just that men my age are more relatable, and physically attractive. Even when I change my dating filters to men in 30s they just look a lot older. Some balding (not against bald men), skin is more rough looking, and typically starting to have a gut. The average age gap has been 2 years for over 20 years now so it's really nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:34 AM
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Also it has more to do with relatability. I'm a woman mid 20s and even since I was a preteen anything over 2 years felt like a lot. I thought it'd change in my 20s but still I feel men 30+ are in a different life zone than me and guys my age understand me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:30 AM
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It has always been this way. It's just that young women had no choice since they couldn't work so chose men who could provide which were typically older. Now that women can choose men based on things outside of a man's wallet they go by looks, personality and relatability. Yes studies do show women are now marrying younger men at higher rates then before.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:26 AM
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Exactly lol. As a young woman who grew up in a city of six figure men at highest proportions my friends and I were never/will never be attracted. Young women prefer young men. They just look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:23 AM
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Depends. If a high politician has a child that needs child support wouldn't that cost more ? Like private schools and body guards?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:07 AM
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Ah, 2x my age. I guess depends on values. I'm Christian so that's a major reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 11:13 PM
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Don't laugh. I agree with her. This is why high n count people should just pair up and leave us who value the actual person, out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 11:11 PM
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You're stronger than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 11:10 PM
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100% choose virgin as a virgin woman that is the only man I'd marry as one. Very rare to find though so I'm better off getting some dating experience before marriage. My biggest fear is marrying a man who was a hoe and me being a virgin. I'd rather die alone. Idk why that gives me so many nightmares but it makes my stomach turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 11:07 PM
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Speak for yourself. Tons of men have actual values. You think so little of the male gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 11:05 PM
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Nope. I met a latino man 2 years ago who was average handsome and was proud to have had only 3 partners in his life. If he wasn't in his 30s I would have definitely tried to snag him. Him only having 3 relationships made me more attracted to him. Made me respect him more as a man like him could have easily slept around but had standards for himself. Not many people have integrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 11:03 PM
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Same. Stopped talking to a guy right off the bat after hearing he was a hoe in college. Literally my stomach sank and it made me sick. I value people who are selective and exercise discipline with their body the same way I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 11:00 PM
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Yea, average age gap is 2.3 years so 26 year old women seek men 28/29, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 10:54 PM
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Yea but average student debt is 33k. Only 6% of students have 6 figure debt,they're just the loudest. Most people go to state schools. I do believe only people with specialized degrees should attend college.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:19 PM
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Very wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:16 PM
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I'd start with no dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:14 PM
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I'm just worried for women. I'm not even a man but I've been seeing men online praise Afghan men for "controlling " their women. Plymouth just had a shooting 3 weeks ago. I just think people need to tread lightly. I want people's opinions and can't see how casual sex can be encouraged while Also shaming women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:12 PM
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I believe age 32 marriage has lowest divorce rate. 20-25 has 60% divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:09 PM
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Encourage women and men to stay except when being abused. Shame infidelity from men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:07 PM
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Yes but 60 years ago they didn't. Just make sure people stay married unless being abused. Try to have a mentally healthy society. Duty driven society.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:04 PM
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Yes I know but I'm talking about when people began to leave the church. It was predominantly men identifying as athiests and "proving the church wrong ". Let's not pretend the athiest movement wasn't driven by men over 50 years ago. Men left, women followed and now it's normalized. Even to this day churches are 70% female at a minimum. Women have adapted. It'll take a huge societal shift. Athiest men will have to pretend they believe in God in order to reap the benefits of a religious society. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:59 PM
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See? Men and women learn from their past mistakes in choosing partners. However, many rp men online seem so unforgiving that a woman can make a mistake and learn better. I understand a mistake here or there, it's a red flag if a man or woman has a pattern of choosing wrong though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:56 PM
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Hmmm, women do control the market but so does social pressure. Dating apps are created by men. Men can just stop developing these applications.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:53 PM
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I wouldn't blame men for your lack of self control. Lots of men have Integrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 09:32 PM
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Force isn't needed. I'm religious based on culture or raising. I wouldn't force convert someone. It's possible in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 09:30 PM
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Young women in 50s also married their ages though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 09:28 PM
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Why shouldn't we go there? It's exactly STEM professionals with the majority of 6 figure jobs. They're a case study on their own. Lots of attractive men who were hot while young still live off of some women who prioritize their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 09:28 PM
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Online dating is recent. Men weren't trying to marry young in 80s and 90s either. This has been documented which is why we're here. Women not wanting this has grown over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:24 PM
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If this is true, I feel a bit more hopeful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:20 PM
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Hmm, maybe I went down the black hole. I guess I watched too many videos lol.... 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:18 PM
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Not instigated, filed. Women handle most administrative tasks in marriage. Divorce is no different. Men just leave. We've discussed this on pp already.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:00 PM
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But look where we are now. Look how many high earning men such as techies and engineers are single. It's not all about being established. Women prefer real physical attraction to wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:58 PM
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Because I've researched a lot of red and black pill content the last few days. Many men seem furious at current situation and want to bring back the patriarchy by force. I'd rather encourage young women and men than force people to do these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:56 PM
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It wasn't really women who spearheaded a leave from the church from what I've read. I think if society normalizes religious values it'd be the norm again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:54 PM
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Doing what we want is leading to increased misogyny and communities like black pill. We could discourage divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:38 PM
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However statistically the women who marry young today marry men their age. In the 50s same thing. We can encourage young marriage like enforced monogamy. Have society do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:37 PM
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This is what I mean. Hasn't this worked in the past? This is society's best bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:35 PM
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True, this is partially why only 40% of men reproduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:34 PM
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I've seen women on some Christian subforums state they resent their husbands for not being virgins when married. It seems religious women who hold their virginity expect same but by nonreligious women it is more shamed for men or they just arent chosen based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:33 PM
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I meant if we should normalize celibacy and young marriage again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:30 PM
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Yes but that's not the question. I'm asking if men should marry early considering the predicament we are in today.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:28 PM
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Women stepped up to the plate when the country needed them most. Also, it's capitalism. Life wasn't so good for men pre 1920s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 06:21 PM
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They did and men were shamed. Cheating men bring STDs , wandering spirits and disdain from children into the marriage. Also statistically men who cheat work in trades.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 06:19 PM
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Exactly as cheating is unchristian and trad men are typically Christian. Bible allows divorce for cheating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 06:17 PM
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Anger is an emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:42 AM
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No, it says men must also be virgins 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:39 AM
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That correlation is actually skewed from religious not divorcing. However majority of millennials are agnostic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:38 AM
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Most high value men and women with lowest divorce rates in country marry early 30s. Age 32 marriages have lowest rates of divorce and this has been correlated with when educated get married. Plenty of high value people are in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:29 AM
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I'm truly jealous. Can't find any virgin men I'm attracted to at 27 😭 the only man worth the wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:23 AM
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You literally sound exactly like myself and friends. We're American. People just stereotype 20s women. What you did is what my friends and I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:21 AM
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Exactly and female virginity rates for 20s increased 40% in the last few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:13 AM
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And man. Higher n count in men increases infidelity which increases chance of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:08 AM
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Successful men date and marry their age and class if we're talking statistics. Most of those couples marry early 30s as they are typically more educated so marry later.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:04 AM
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And yet data still shows average age gap is 2 years so not much difference. Most people still marry their age
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:50 AM
1

Autism is only linked to men. Scientists haven't found a correlation with mothers as of yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:48 AM
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This is me. No dating experience at 27 😭 I have no excuse though but the pandemic set me back
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:42 AM
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I'm Christian virgin too but I'm only willing to save myself for a Christian make virgin. I hold men to the same standards I keep for myself. Hopefully he's a virgin because if not, that does increase chance of divorce although still low it's higher. Christians in general have low divorce rates. If your partner has a body count of 4 or more though his chances of cheating double during the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:38 AM
1

I'm curious are you both virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:35 AM
1

Because past success is the best indicator of future success. Think of a fit woman, of course you'd choose her than a fat one with "potential ".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:32 AM
1

Age 32 marriages is actually the age of lowest chance of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:30 AM
1

And you assume men are different?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:25 AM
1

Oops. 😬 the pink threw me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:25 AM
1

Lol look at miss low n count trying to turn me into a hoe 😂😂😂 maybe, we'll see.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:57 AM
1

Lol. The logic 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:55 AM
-1

False. Most girls just want a guy taller than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 03:37 AM
1

😅😅😅 thought about it but the most bodies I'll ever rack up is 3. I was raised super religious so it's just hard to not view sex as anything that can be done outside of a relationship. I'm 27 now so basically time to get married. I'll probably get married to the 2nd or 3rd guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 03:34 AM
2

Yep, study is called "but will it last", they had the least successful unions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 03:29 AM
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According to studies by Jenifer L. Bratter and Rosalind B. King made publicly available on the Education Resources Information Center, in the United-States, unions between White males and non-White females (and between Hispanics and non-Hispanic persons) have similar or lower risks of divorce than White-White marriages, unions between white male-black female last longer than white-white pairings or white-Asian pairings.[3] Conversely, White female-Black male and White female-Asian male marriages…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 03:28 AM
1

Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:49 AM
1

The men my friends date are unattractive to me and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:39 AM
2

It does when you mention women settling for under employed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:37 AM
1

Yep physical attraction is important. I scoured reddit and found other women who tried to date men they were attracted to. 90% said it wasn't worth it. Both ended up bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:36 AM
2

Nope literally opposite experiences according to r askwomen
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:31 AM
1

True but they shouldn't be compared to insta models who's literal jobs are to be fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:29 AM
3

Statistically, black women are the only race of women who are the breadwinners of their relationships. Most black women haven't experienced a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:27 AM
1

Curious for the new data.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:25 AM
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They should date everyone. Black women have highest divorce rates with black men but lowest with other races. Opposite is true for bm who nonblack women divorce at 200% the national average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:25 AM
3

Are we forgetting anger is an emotion and according to pareto men are at the negative extremes of society. More likely to "snap".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:24 AM
1

Men are only as faithful as their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:23 AM
1

Same for me. Hearing all these men assume you women slept around makes me wish I would have since it'd be assumed regardless. Never experienced a hoe phase or casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:22 AM
11

Tell that to men in Silicon Valley rolling in 6 figs but can't get a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:16 AM
6

17% of faithful men are divorced vs 40% of cheating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:13 AM
2

Key word "women on here". Lots of women feel bad for rejecting a guy. I did similar last year and still feel bad. He checked everything off most people's list but physical attraction wasn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:07 AM
29

True, there was a viral video 2 months ago from a girl without pretty privilege and she said it was like she was invisible. Men were so friendly to her good looking friends .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:50 AM
8

This ☝️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:27 AM
34

Same with male victims of sexual assault. Almost all the people who aid these initiatives are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:13 AM
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Absolutely I do. I really feel for men in this regard. However, I wouldn't date or marry someone I wasn't attracted to. It's not fair to either party.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:55 PM
1

Oh, yes they removed the entire post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:19 PM
1

Why doesn't this qualify as debate flare?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:19 PM
1

What do you mean resubmit? The flair is cmv. Do you mean delete post?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:14 PM
1

Was this post removed? It's not showing on main page.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:11 PM
1

No, post is still there and your argument. I'm mostly discussing comparison between 2 type of women and divorce rates. Your post said what I did. Which was the main argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:08 PM
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I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:06 PM
3

*Humans do what's in their best interest. That includes incels taking over a country and forcing children to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:03 PM
3

What's women's natural desires? How do we know when most women in history have been silenced and had laws in place to control their true desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:00 PM
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It literally said what I stated. I reread multiple times. College educated people see it as an end goal. Yes reasons for marriage has changed. Society has. Data is flawed because only 44 states had input? So basically all divorce stats are flawed is what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:58 PM
1

Same logic misandrists use, "all men are rapists until proven otherwise " or "all men only want women for sex". To each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:51 PM
2

So one is used as a quick lay and the other is actually secured in a union. Ok......
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:46 PM
1

Exactly, those are a segment of female community. Look at the size of those groups compared to over 3 billion actual women. That's like me assuming most men are incels because of how big their online community is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:44 PM
2

How do they lose? Assortative mating data shows only 10% of upper class men marry lower class women. Most hvm marry their like, including Doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:36 PM
2

Exactly my point. My group was definitely outgoing but not loud party girls. Empty cans make the most noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:35 PM
1

Yes it does have out dated thinking points but it did demand men and women to marry as virgins although many misogynists prefer selective reading to only be true for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:34 PM
1

And yet most Asian Americans are college educated but are stereotyped to be the most nurturing and produce hard working children. Which is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:31 PM
2

I wish red pill men would call out those who steal their brand. The modern definition has most of mainstream confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:29 PM
1

How is that different from what I said? College educated people still find a reason to marry. Which point are you debating exactly that says opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:26 PM
1

International relations and CS.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:15 PM
1

Exactly which women talk and act like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:13 PM
1

Speculation but no data. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:13 PM
1

Wrong study, looking for new one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:13 PM
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Oops, I read the breakdown at one point, I'll relink here as this is a pay wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:12 PM
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Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:09 PM
1

So have I. None of my social circle involved people sleeping around because I didn't sleep around. Studies show you attract those most like you if that's all you saw. My friends and I hung out with each other, went to parties and restaurants with each other, hung out with our boyfriends or just ourselves. That's the college experience of many college educated women. Too much television exaggerates reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:09 PM
1

How so? Alimony? (Mostly uneducated and unskilled women)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 05:56 PM
1

So which conclusion is correct? If the assumption is college educated women sleep around and another assumption that high n counts divorce higher, why do they divorce less than uneducated? Do we have stats for who sleeps around the most? College educated vs uneducated makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 05:53 PM
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Fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 05:51 PM
1

Speculation. Have you actually been to college?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 05:49 PM
1

Yes, theres was an actual study and researchers came to the conclusion women just handle all the paperwork during marriage and divorce even when man initiates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 05:46 PM
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Shouldn't that be discussed amongst the rp community first? These men are the loudest and most viral of the bunch. They title everything red pill so people follow that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 05:28 PM
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So why are red pill men always larping about divorce rates as one of the main reasons to not get married. How about they not bring it up? Every comment is a out how "women initiate divorce ". The goal post has moved again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 05:27 PM
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I'm discussing men like Kevin samuels, Fresh and Fit and Donovan sharp and several others. These men are the biggest voices on YouTube for the red pill community. Look at the title of their videos. Hear what they say. Also, men here correlate high n counts with high divorce rates so which makes sense? Clearly most college educated women aren't sleeping with the football team. Many have around 0-7 partners which has been researched. Average for men and women is 7. When I went to college most of u…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 05:20 PM
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Except don't men state women with high counts divorce because of "pair bonding"? There isn't data to show most college educated women are sleeping with multiple men. That's speculation and highly dependent on your own social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 05:05 PM
1

Which post?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 05:00 PM
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You heard? Please post stats for each. Even if that were true chances of being divorced by an educated woman is still lower but we'd appreciate some data.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 05:00 PM
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A woman wants to feel provided for. It's biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 03:08 AM
2

Id rather date a 50k earner who spends on me than a 200k earner who's cheap. Been there done that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 08:43 PM
3

Same. This is what many red pillers want 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 08:36 PM
2

Exactly. Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:50 PM
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I work 40 and make 6 figs. Just choose the right major. I'm a woman and not career driven but majored in the right thing. I like my work but it's not my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:44 PM
1

They are. Doctors have a less than 10% divorce rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:32 PM
1

Yep, I was a CS major from middle class background. Now myself and everyone in my circle are upper middle class to just plain rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:20 PM
1

Data shows opposite. Have a link?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:12 PM
1

Validation isn't given by a robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 06:01 AM
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They don't. Go to silicon valley and see all the rich tech bros who are perpetually single and passed up for average salary men with personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:58 AM
1

Ah, okay. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 12:26 AM
1

Oh I see, not much difference at 40 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 12:23 AM
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Yes, class. Well that's not really seen as settling as once you hit a certain income threshold you don't care. I make enough where having a partner who makes 30-40k less isn't settling as we'd still be in the top 5% of income bracket for our age. People put more pressure on class than income or potential earnings. I have girlfriends in tech who plan to take career breaks when having kids, they want a six figure earner who maintains their former life style. Dating a man making a few thousand less…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 05:14 AM
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Canada is the most educated country in the world. Educated people have a 20% less likely chance of divorce. 29% of college educated couples divorce vs 53% of uneducated couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 04:57 AM
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Check YouTube. I've seen childfree older people share their experiences. Same on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 04:47 AM
3

Aw, so sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 04:37 AM
2

Things men tell themselves to justify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 04:33 AM
2

Statistically they are more likely to be married unless they're black.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 03:45 AM
1

Why 30s?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 03:36 AM
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False. Most Christian and Muslim women seek equally yoked men. I grew up around those types. They avoid f boys like the plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 03:32 AM
1

Nurses aren't necessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 03:20 AM
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1/3 of women out earn their partners though. Especially black women that are statistically the breadwinners in the black community.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 03:00 AM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/blog/social-mobility-memos/2016/04/08/the-rich-marrying-the-rich-makes-the-income-gap-worse-but-its-not-our-biggest-problem/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/blog/social-mobility-memos/2014/02/10/opposites-dont-attract-assortative-mating-and-social-mobility/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2017/09/21/marital-choices-are-exacerbating-household-income-inequality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 02:32 AM
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Yep, very same reason the average 1st time divorce is age 30. Surprisingly, couples who marry at age 32 have lowest divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 02:21 AM
2

Each make 100k?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 02:19 AM
2

Yea but people lived until age 40. Now we live to 80 at least. Might as well enjoy some years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 02:11 AM
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Typically those earners are in big tech no? Your name says tech. Typically those women get swiped up by their counterparts. I used to work at a FAANG and they had no problem. Different circles I guess. According to recent assortative mating studies. More and more high earning men are marrying high earning women than ever in history. I'll agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 01:53 AM
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Statistics on assortative mating state otherwise. I work in tech, almost all women marry similar high earners. Statistically, this is true. You're discussing an anecdote. People mostly marry in their tax bracket. Look at SF, siz figure female nurses date and marry tech guys. Statistics show men and women marry those most like them. Power couples are increasingly popular and causing a wealth divide.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 06:34 AM
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If you move those numbers to your age 20s or 30s you'll have more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:26 AM
1

Congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:25 AM
1

When I've seen attractive bald men they were typically fit. Do what's best for you. Shave it and start toning up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:19 AM
2

Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:00 AM
1

Men who earn less are statically more likely to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:57 AM
1

Exactly. Those women are all Instagram models and in the nightlife scene. That's why they all have public Instagrams with thousands of followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:53 AM
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Me as a 6 figure earner. Thankfully I'm in a male dominated field so never run out of 6 figure men 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:50 AM
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Where I live, men get extra interested when I'm "on their level". I think it's just assortative mating at play but looks are what gets them. Similar backgrounds and interests is what makes them desire ltr.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:47 AM
2

Data says otherwise. Women prefer their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:45 AM
0

Except regret from this is high.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:39 AM
2

Same I said, this is good. Casual sex leads to unwanted pregnancies with someone you barely know. Stats show people regret casual sex from alcohol so why push further?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:38 AM
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This is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:31 AM
2

They forget anger is an emotion. They're just as emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:27 AM
1

Validation
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:26 AM
1

Aren't men in the bay "high value"? Those guys make 6 figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:18 AM
1

A lot more single men desire a partner, especially the over 40 group compared to the women. 28% vs 74%
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:00 AM
-1

So blame everything on one gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:57 AM
-1

Its Florida.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:56 AM
7

It did for sure. Didn't realize most men were only nice to women they wanted to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:53 AM
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She knows:https://youtu.be/lvHJHiIUbvA
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:17 PM
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He's a grifter who was never high value until simps sent him money. I like the cbp's break down of his channel.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:10 PM
1

I'm talking about actual research that says women have stronger social groups which is why less of them rush for remarriage after divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:56 PM
1

That's interesting you say emotional because lots of red pill men say cheating for men is just about sex but for women it's "emotional cheating ".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:55 PM
1

Ooo, sorry I confused that with the likes page. Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 06:22 AM
1

Maybe 2 years, but stop relying on anecdotes. Data says majority of women prefer their age or 3 years max.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 06:20 AM
1

I thought with hinge once you hit 50 or more it stays stuck on "50+" even if you have 60, 70, 80, 100. How do you know it's 300?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 06:19 AM
1

That's the point of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 06:17 AM
1

What a reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 06:07 AM
1

Hinge only tells you it's 50+ though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:51 AM
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Free love era?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:42 AM
1

Except people have many reasons why they cheat some studies state 56% of married men were perfectly happy when they cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:35 AM
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Speculation. Find real data. Cheating could be after staying with 1 woman over 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:28 PM
1

Male sexlessness is a survey. I guess 1/3 of men in 20s aren't virgins then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:27 PM
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Exactly but it's not real. No real data. People think they know what they'd do if rich but that's speculative. Most studies are surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:26 PM
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I already found those 2 links. Both had no data. Psychology today didn't use real people. They had volunteers believe they were rich. Washington post doesn't list a study at all. No anecdotes. This study says opposite: https://ifstudies.org/blog/predicting-infidelity-an-updated-look-at-who-is-most-likely-to-cheat-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:29 PM
1

So income or looks match? I see him telling high career women to date men who earn less. Or do we mean looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:26 PM
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"A study by Rutgers University reveals almost 56% of cheating men claims to be happy with their marriages, and in fact, they aren’t looking for a way to opt out of it or will they allow anything to threaten their marriages." -lifehack Also cheating rates in polyamory is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:18 PM
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This study shows highest quater of income earners actually cheat less than poor and middle class men https://ifstudies.org/blog/predicting-infidelity-an-updated-look-at-who-is-most-likely-to-cheat-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:14 PM
1

Male sexlessness is is survey data. Over half the posts here are surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:40 PM
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Same with how online data on tinder doesn't represent real life only users of tinder. Most people don't cheat with coworkers : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lehmiller.com/blog/2018/4/11/when-people-cheat-who-do-they-do-it-with-is-it-usually-a-friend-or-a-stranger%3fformat=amp
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:37 PM
2

Women say thisvwhen people bring up online dating info.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:36 PM
2

He literally have the number 120k as hvm. A study by big think and wealth in 2010 found 0 correlation of increased cheating for wealth
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:34 PM
1

Interesting. So women shouldn't marry tradesmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:31 PM
1

😂😂😂 I'm sure they mean police officers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:29 PM
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😂😂😂 to be fair this also entered my mind. Too much porn indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:52 PM
2

There's hope. I've noticed this switch too. Men who 10 years ago would have entered finance for money now enter tech.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:51 PM
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Don't men in finance and medicine work crazy hours? What would make a man in trades be more likely to use this site than a man in engineering? Studies show more people cheat with close friends, neighbors and for men, escorts. The link is posted here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:48 PM
3

Maybe it's regional. In my area we do. We have trade schools for high school women to learn these skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:44 PM
5

Exactly it'd only be worth the risk with someone very attractive or high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:39 PM
6

I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:37 PM
5

Why? Working class men mostly marry working class women. Not high earning educated women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:33 PM
1

"Women aren't attracted to the top 20% of men, it's just Tinder. Doesn't represent women irl" Keep same energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:32 PM
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Yes he does. He has entire videos dedicated to why hvm "cheat more" and says he is warning women so they know what to expect. In the same breath he'll say you women don't want the average guy who makes 40k a year or the plumber who would appreciate you more. Go back and watch his videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:31 PM
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We are talking about friends here. Women don't have to know what's being said. This is interpersonal relationships not online communities thst everyone can see and judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:28 PM
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Haha. This is actually something to think about. Lots of sex scenes online involve a plumber or electrician coming to fix something at a woman's. Yes some career women see them as very masculine to sleep with but not seriously date. Not sure about IT men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:26 PM
1

This is actually sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:22 PM
6

This can be said about any site. This was the number 1 site for married men who wanted mistresses. We can use this same logic for Tinder. Logic: "Women overall don't want the top percentage of men because not all women use tinder" Let's keep the same energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:19 PM
7

Why don't men create these support groups for themselves? That's a main reason studies found single women were more content than single men, they had bustling social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:17 PM
3

https://www.deltatechnicalcollege.com/resources/careers/why-is-cosmetology-considered-a-trade/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:15 PM
0

Someone else mentioned this. I wasn't aware of the correlation. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:13 PM
2

Ashley Madison is a site for men who desire a mistress.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:12 PM
2

Hair stylists, nail technicians, makeup artists, massage therapists, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:00 PM
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Yes but everyone goes to the internet for dating. That's the thing. Why use the internet if you can meet people in person. Even women in male dominated fields heavily rely on dating apps. Here's a study on who people cheat with:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lehmiller.com/blog/2018/4/11/when-people-cheat-who-do-they-do-it-with-is-it-usually-a-friend-or-a-stranger%3fformat=amp People cheat with close friends, escorts and neighbors the most. Not coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:57 PM
2

Reading is fundamental. You said nothing different than I.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:55 PM
3

Lots of trades make good money right? I always see them brag online about their 6 figure salaries or at the least, 75k.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:54 PM
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If we're talking finance men, they're more machismo. Especially the wall street types. Their energy is like they they run the world so I'm not surprised. Doctors are surrounded by female nurses so plenty of time to cheat on the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:53 PM
2

Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:50 PM
3

I agree. I don't necessarily think trades women look down on them though. Those women typically prefer them. Also career women I've seen on tv(maybe not the best example) use the young fit one's as fwb because they are viewed as more physically masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:50 PM
2

Really? I'm not sure if there is a correlation between IQ and cheating but I'll check.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:48 PM
2

I agree, I have family in trades. Their work is non stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:47 PM
4

Well maybe that depends. I'm an engineer in tech so most of my colleagues and I check out at 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:45 PM
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Great take but most people find their partners online now so I'm not surprised they'd also find a mistress on one. Finance men come at 8% and medical at 5%. Another Redditor mentioned these men are more busy. The machismo culture in blue collar work stands strongest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:44 PM
1

More sex with women in trades? The narrative is women don't like trades men but my personal anecdote is they're typically the one's paired up. Maybe career women aren't interested in relationships with them is what people mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:42 PM
1

Ashley Madison is the website name.... users on that site.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:36 PM
3

Right? Thought they were going their own way. If women can egg each other on and build strong friend groups why can't men? Women validate each other all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:35 PM
2

Plenty of white collar is 9-5.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:33 PM
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Their users listed their professions. You trust Tinder user data over Ashley Madison user data? Both just released user information.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:33 PM
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This could also be why men who make less than their wives also cheat more. Insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:32 PM
1

Actually it's decreasing in Africa and Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:31 PM
1

People lived till 40 so it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:27 PM
2

😂 please tell me more. I feel they are typically the most sexless profession. Shouldn't they hold tight once they get someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:22 PM
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Yep, machismo was the word. This can also be why Latin America and the Carribean have higher rates as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:21 PM
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They want average women but follow nothing but Instagram baddies. Watch what they do not say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:20 PM
1

Christian Indian?! Most men in tech are athiests. That's a unicorn 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:47 PM
3

😂😂😂 I'll give that a shot 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:45 PM
0

I went out with an Asian guy, 2nd date he split bill even though he was the one chasing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:28 PM
2

I'm stuck with cheap liberal tech men. I haven't met one religious either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:24 PM
2

So why do men get mad that a woman wants provision?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:22 PM
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I'm seeing more and more men argue that women shouldn't work so that they depend on them. Give it a few years, it'll be handmaid's tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:20 PM
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I will split the bill if I don't see a future with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:26 AM
2

Same for hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:25 AM
3

Ah, the "waste their time" method.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:31 PM
0

So why focus on tabloid and not data? Do you have any that says they have same amount or more sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:29 PM
2

So would you tell them you don't want marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:23 PM
0

Fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:17 PM
1

Organic love isn't historical. It's recent. Only a minority of men in history experienced that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:13 PM
21

The future is Japanese.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:11 PM
1

Nurses make six figures. Guys could do that. They even het affirmative action benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:25 PM
2

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:21 PM
1

Lollll, those weren't surveys but hard data of actual surviving marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:20 PM
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Not all else being equal early 20 something women could care less how established a 30 year old man is. They want young attractive men overall, even if a 30s man has more to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:50 PM
2

Less chance divorce? You do realize least likely to divorced couples are married early 30s and college educated right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:48 PM
0

How is established rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:49 PM
-3

What about all of the obese women you all refuse to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:49 PM
5

Every man cheats, you think poor men don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:47 PM
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Y'all are so obsessed with this topic. Young women prefer young men. Studies show that. There are numerous posts over on r/askwomen saying they regret their naivety dating old and now looking back, they know better. Men are especially hypocritical. They want to date young women but would disapprove of their own daughters doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:43 PM
1

Dont these KS men make 40k a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:09 AM
1

So fathers don't care either?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:06 AM
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Trust these men would go to 12 if it was allowed. Look at history.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:58 AM
3

Women date 2.5 years in gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:55 AM
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Women like older men by a max of 2 years. Read the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:53 AM
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But here's the issue. BM don't want BW, but no other race of women want them either according to OKCupid data, however real time statistics have them dating at 3x the rate. In the study it showed only BW swiped on BM and BW were the only race of women to not prefer White Men. However, funnily enough black men didn't swipe on the same women who only swiped them. There's been a closing gap of black women in interracial marriage and their marriages last longer than every other interracial couple an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:46 PM
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Where do y'all live? Most young people I see are skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:08 AM
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You named mostly black youtubers. It's mainstream for the black community. There will definitely be more incels now that many more black women no longer have interest for black men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:42 AM
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Lol this is true. A movement called "divest" blew up and has been growing massively since he's gotten popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:49 AM
1

Define better then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:48 AM
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Define abuse? He believes women should submit and domestic discipline is the goal. If a woman gets out of line she should be beat. If she can't take the beating she'll say bananasplit but how many men in anger would truly stop there? Especially for the type of woman who agrees with this arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:20 PM
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25 year olds aren't attracted to grampas right? By your logic they should feel some attraction based on his personality or they are shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:16 PM
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Nope, when choosing a partner the key is to make sure you are both on the same page with childrearing. Instead of watching KS why not check the blended families subreddits? Plenty of young women have worse stories dating a man with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:15 PM
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So they want a starfish to stick into not an enthusiastic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:34 PM
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So an 80 yo man with a good personality should sway young women into his bed or else thos 21 yo are shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:32 PM
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Except male sexuality is much wider naturally. Men are physically attracted to most women by default of horniness. Women are biologically different which is why the minority of men in history have passed down their genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:29 PM
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This is true to some extent but very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:24 PM
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College educated couples have lowest divorce rates. So more educated couples chose seemingly better partners it seems. The divorce rate of the uneducated is 53%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:20 PM
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Stats show lesbians also raise healthy kids. It's more about dual income or socioeconomic status than a man in the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:18 PM
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Interesting, stats show women with college degrees are 20% less likely to divorce (at 29%) vs only high school graduates (53% divorce rate). I doubt education plays a role.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:17 PM
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Plenty of people see being alone as a default state then the stressors of relationships. For many women, if a relationship isn't making her life better she'd rather be single. Women would rather be alone than babysit. Ideally everyone wants an optimal partner, if not, single is best. We do see what women do, they go on to continue living their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:18 PM
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A black professor at Stanford named Richard Banks came to the conclusion that it's because those black men are so rare, and black women prefer dating their own, that those men refuse to settle down and instead spin plates because they are a hot commodity in the black community. An Asian man being successful is pretty much default in the USA, a black man being successful is the least common statistically. It makes them hot commodities to "race loyal" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:16 PM
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Of course he did. How convenient of a man who also has that baggage and wants to date childfree women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:11 PM
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Lol, so let's disregard all survey studies then. Throw out half the redpill arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:10 PM
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Actually Latin America and the Carribean have highest infidelity rates and those men aren't known to be wealthy. Studies also show 0 correlation between income and cheating. Plenty of men from the ghetto cheat on their partners from what I've witnessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:59 AM
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Shoot me too lol. Caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:56 AM
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The 2 churches I've been to are predominantly female. Most churches are and I'm in a big city. There's a huge imbalance of Christian women to men. Lots of data on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:55 AM
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Wow, this is actually true.
/r/askTRP19/07/21 03:30 AM
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They do commit, studies show the more money a man makes the more likely he is to be married. Except for black men where it trends the other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:58 AM
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Same is seen in who women prefer to date. Up to the age of 38 women prefer to date their age, then at 39 40, want younger men. 20 yo women want 20 yo men or max 2 years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:49 AM
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I did. Actually a few weeks ago. He's 3 years younger and typical social awkward tech guy but the second he found out I was a virgin he said "oh I can't take a girl's virginity ". He literally looked scared and said I don't look like a virgin and I must be saving myself for someone very special. It's tough for female virgins looking for ltr.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:43 AM
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I think these families are cool. Lots of them on YouTube.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:40 AM
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I'm a virgin woman and at this point I'd rather sleep with several people than marry a man who was a former hoe. The only guy I'd marry as a virgin needs to be a virgin but 27 yo virgin men who are attractive, Christian and stable are rare. I work in tech but so many of the men just want a sex doll and are athiests.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 11:17 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 11:14 PM
1

They're right though. Only 40% of men in history have reproduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 11:00 PM
2

Happy for your sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:56 PM
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As a woman, I agree. Women are much more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:55 PM
2

Lol, this again? Why dont you read the pew research study that showed only 28% of post 40 single women desired a relationship vs 74% of single post 40 men? Those women CHOOSE to be single. That study had an even larger sample size than this and is recent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:54 PM
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Why aren't statistics backing this up? Young women don't even blink at men 10 years their senior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:48 PM
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I want a guy to ask for exclusivty asap as I don't do casual sex. Ball is in his court but these men want to "test drive" before committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:43 PM
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It wouldn't be me. Single fathers should date single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:40 PM
2

Except young women 9/10 date and marry at a 2+ year max.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:39 PM
1

Exactly and those women have oldies filtered out. It also shows in real life data of women inly dating, mating and marrying men their age, younger or 2 years older in 70% of cases. Only 1% in 20 year gaps and 6% 10 years or older which is mostly distributed to people in their 2nd or 3rd marriages dating older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:31 PM
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No doctors have more education
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:40 PM
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Do you see the switch up? All the justifications when the data calls them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:35 PM
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I agree, which roles to take and who they are most genuinely attracted to. Women in the past dated old men not because of genuine attraction but need of survival. Now they can get what they truly desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 05:01 AM
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What number? 0? 5?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:56 AM
2

Interesting. Great points.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:56 AM
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Yea, although the gap is closing even further and more women than ever before are even choosing to date younger than themselves. Right now only 20% of women are but it's growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:50 AM
2

Exactly, the justifications they make about cheating when wives gain 200lbs is enough proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:42 AM
2

No, humans seek validation. Reason why incels see prostitutes as cheating. They want the Chad experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:35 AM
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Ew, but young women don't want old men. Why wait out an f boy when a woman could do the same. Dating stats already show women find men with 2 years age gap as attractive. 10+ years is pushing it. Those men are balding.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:31 AM
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I support this. It's hard immigrating to America so those women take anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:24 AM
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What about the okcupid study where 70% of men messaged the top 30% of women? Do we now conclude 70% of men only want top 30 women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:21 AM
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Same although I'm 3 years older I couldn't fathom even dating over 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:17 AM
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Let them dream lol, young women aren't attracted to old men and on the rarity they are they have to be rich. Which is still beta as they don't like you but your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:15 AM
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Statistically said 20 year old women prefer 20 year old men unless since then you've become a millionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:05 AM
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The goal post has moved. Same could be said for men in old.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:11 PM
1

Definitely not average, that's a rare feature.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 01:44 PM
1

That's the same thing chads tell normal dudes. Anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 01:43 PM
1

Great man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:15 AM
0

Dimples are above average....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:12 AM
2

Nope, I work in tech. Just visit our forums. Nothing but hvm complaining about not being able to snag a girlfriend. These are men at Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. I believe okcupid had a study that said engineers have a low chance of getting matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:08 AM
2

How? Men online say women only want mens money but tech bros making 300k a year stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:37 PM
7

Same with Gabrielle Union being 10 years older than her NBA star husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:34 PM
4

Joe Rogan married a single mother over 30. I wonder what they'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:32 PM
6

I pay for my food when I don't like the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:25 PM
2

This.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:35 PM
4

Or kidnappings from south east Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:52 AM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:46 PM
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There is a hip hop song with the chorus "if they ain't lookin I don't want her" 🤢 talk about insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:45 PM
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Most of history was dead bedrooms as women 9/10 had sex to reproduce or had to be pressured by society to sleep with their husbands (wifely duty).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:42 PM
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I'm currently in category A, but plan to have sex for the experience. I have no desire to marry as a virgin although I am mid 20s. Unless I met the perfect man who is also a virgin I see no point in marrying a nonvirgin. Those relationships mostly end up with the virgin feeling left out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:39 PM
5

But children of Lesbians fair just as well statistically. So it's more economical than a man not being there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:06 AM
3

Same, I only pay if I don't like the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:48 AM
2

Asian women are the most hypergamous female demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 02:11 AM
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They're the ones most likely to be single at 30. Like a 70% divorce rate for young marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:33 AM
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Those men marry women in trades like hair stylists. And nail techs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:26 AM
1

I believe gender filing for divorce is also a survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:17 AM
1

They're emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:14 AM
1

What I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:25 AM
2

And men wouldn't either. Aren't they "as faithful as their options ".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:17 AM
1

In what period of time have people never complained about anything? Complaining is human.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:59 PM
1

Yea but Carribean and Latin America has higher rates of infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:50 PM
5

Teen pregnancy is at an all time low which is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:42 PM
2

You mean "wifely duties" that women have been doing since the beginning of time. Free love movement was the only exception
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:38 PM
2

Tons of sexless men in many European countries. Lots are "mgtow". Greece is an exception. They also marry later.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:21 PM
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Not at all, and that trend is only common in 2nd marriages not 20 year old women but a 50 year old remarrying a 60 year old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:19 PM
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Yes. We had a post on this study last week and pp guys had nothing of substance to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:17 PM
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No, this has already been debunked by pew research a profile on single Americans. Only 28% of 40+ women desire a relationship vs 74% of 40+ single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:24 AM
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Researchers came to the conclusion it was because women have larger social circles and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:18 AM
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A guy on YouTube said it's 25 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:16 AM
1

No, pew research shows over 74% of 40+ single women do not desire relationships .
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:15 AM
1

Over 15% do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:13 AM
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But only 7% of all sexual relationships in the USA have a 10+ year age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:13 AM
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More old men are on old than women .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 02:15 PM
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They are. They're sometimes more awkward but I've found a balance. They also have lots of money which is nice. I'd say san Francisco, san Diego, NYC, Seattle, Austin and NYC are your best bets. Those are tech cities. NYC is the hardest though because it's competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 12:52 AM
3

You disagree but online dating shows the opposite on what women deem attractive- men their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 12:49 AM
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Really? Studies show women are attracted to men their own age up until agec39 where they prefer younger men. When women "date older " they mean 2-3 years. Average age gap is 2.5 which makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 12:46 AM
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Most of them are virgins or have low body counts. I'm a woman in my 20s who prefers the same and I found lots of those men in tech. Even the attractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 12:34 AM
1

Date tech guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 12:09 AM
3

Rotational dating is old though. I remember reading books like Pride and Prejudice. Financially stable women have always done this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:16 PM
5

Same in the tech city I live. I know a 36 year old who isn't even trying. She's absolutely gorgeous but doesn't even date. No desire to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:13 PM
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Not in the majority of marriages no. Don't 1/3 of women in 2020 out earn their partners and another 3rd make similar amount to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:11 PM
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Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:06 PM
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As the saying goes "men are only as faithful as their options " - chris rock. Either way, no young woman is gonna date 50 year old brad because he makes 200k a year. Gold digging young women want RICH old men not just financially stable old men. Look at the stats. Only 1% of all sexual relationships in the USA have a 20 year gap. It makes more sense for top % of men etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:01 PM
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No, women's support system is each other and their children. This has been studied as a reason they are happier than single men. They're the one's who maintain the friendship groups of their married husbands as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:13 PM
2

what about courthouse marriage? I wonder what those divorce stats are. Some women don't want a big wedding just something small with 5 people or just a witness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:26 AM
4

Exactly this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:28 AM
2

Divorce isn't the end of the world. Pick the right partner and you'll either not divorce or divorce amicably.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:25 AM
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Of course statistics don't matter wjen they're not the one's you want. By this logic, stats don't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:22 AM
1

Use the search bar, the laws excuses are debunked.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:20 AM
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Top 10% men marry equally educated women. There are 1000s of studies on assortative mating. How many times do we have to go over this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:40 PM
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You're right. It's called assortative mating. Only 10% of upper class men marry lower class women. I am a woman in tech and dating is easy for me because I'm cute and smart. Guys on every date tell me how hard it is to find and date tech girls. Edit: btw, I know you're a tech bro by putting "TC" 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:38 PM
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This is the mindset of someone who looks at life with a glass half empty and not half full. If life had a 75% chance of sucking, optimists would still say "so there's a chance ". People who truly "go their own way" don't use these forums, they're living their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:17 PM
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You want to live life risk free?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:07 PM
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Do you know how statistics are calculated? High risk people aren't marrying. Studies show those who were already low risk are still marrying at similar rates. Typically educated, older and higher income individuals. Lower class, under 25 and uneducated are choosing to live together long term without marriage. Marriage today is more a class thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:05 PM
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Life wasn't meant to be lived in bubble wrap. Nothing risk free tastes good. Use discernment when choosing a partner. Nothing in life is guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:01 PM
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Yes, this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:45 AM
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Why don't studies show that then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:16 AM
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Really? Average age gap in the states is 2.5 years so isn't that most women in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:13 AM
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What's even more interesting is studies show attractive people have better personalities because they are more socially exposed and can practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:11 AM
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Wasn't domestic violence much higher in previous generations when all the "nice guys" were paired up?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:10 AM
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Yep, I'm a woman in tech. The men are young and rich. I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:06 AM
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That's why I'm glad I'm in tech. I'd hate to have to settle for an old man because I need stability. Thankfully men my age are already financially stable. Young men are 10x better. Also no thanks to increased chance of divorce dating old.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:02 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:49 AM
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Yep 29% divorce rate for college educated vs 53% divorce rate for only high school graduates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:28 AM
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Men complain about invisibility at that age. Women are always sought after. Studies show once a man hits 40, women his own age prefer younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:57 AM
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So then my comment on men being more sexless in college is true, women have higher percentages of sex because they have it with older men, not because they're more promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:51 AM
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Even as a 26 year old woman. I can't even find the desire to set my dating app to 31+. People don't realize they get old quick. Dudes already balding at 30. I'd rather date a year younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:49 AM
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Then why is the age of first divorce 30? Because those women realized their mistake. Same reason age gaps have high divorce rates. You all romanticize it but data shows failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:47 AM
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No, this has been documented already. Average age gap is 2.5 years. Studies show men prefer early 20s women and early 20s women prefer early 20s men. Women prefer and only swipe on men their age up to age 39 then they prefer younger men. Only way an old man can get a young woman is to be rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:43 AM
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Only 7% of couples have a 10+ year age gap. 1% have a 20 year gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:40 AM
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Average couple has a 2.5 year age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:39 AM
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Because studies show women prefer men their age up until age 39 then they prefer younger women. Women in the early days had no choice but to marry older men because they were more stable. Today women actually sleep with who they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:38 AM
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Also, the wealthier you are the lower your chances of divorce. It's actually working class people with high divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:35 AM
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Exactly, the Cut on YouTube did a video with people and their body counts. The higher the number got, the more unattractive the people became.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:32 AM
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Prefer 0, max 10 for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:28 AM
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/article/pdf/marriage-and-divorce-patterns-by-gender-race-and-educational-attainment.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi_7dWaw7TxAhUD7J4KHS-_A3MQFjABegQIAxAG&usg=AOvVaw2qys8Vn9jxpoWwc7o0InM0
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:05 AM
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If both couples are college educated, divorce drops to 30%.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:49 AM
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If you're white your chance is 36% divorce, if college educated 29% likely to divorce, uneducated? 53% divorce rate . If a black woman marries a white man 20% likely to divorce, 18% if Asian couple, 60% of people who marry between 20-25 divorce, Christian 26%, those who make over 75k a year divorce at 22%, yada yada. If you're upper middle class, chances of divorce is much lower than working class. Not all are equal. Find your demographic. Also divorce rates are decreasing: Millennial adults age…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:46 AM
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They met through social media not old. Where's your study?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:35 AM
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I agree, it's ideal when both are virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 04:18 PM
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Here we go again. He retracted one part of the study. The rest was valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 07:03 AM
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Most countries don't have paternity leave. It's a privilege in a handful of countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:28 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/2go9r5/serious_those_of_you_who_have_waited_until/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=comments_view_all and on the Christianity subreddit women who were virgins said they feel robbed marrying Christian men who weren't virgins. https://amp.reddit.com/r/AskOldPeople/comments/jyjmor/how_did_you_feel_about_losing_your_virginity_did/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:03 PM
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Young girls and teens have always been sexualized. In some cultures they are still sold off to old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:00 PM
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No. In NYC women get cat called every few steps. I've probably seen a woman catcall irl 2x, and they were drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 08:21 AM
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Link the study. I've seen opposite. Plenty of people have posted on reddit regret for marrying as a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:45 AM
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Why are you exaggerating. Even on askwomen, most said they don't regret their casual sex. Those that did expressed why, they either had other issues in life or expectations of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:43 AM
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Have you been on any women subreddits? Plenty of women just want casual sex without a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:34 AM
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Would you prefer no sex before marriage and every one paired up at 16.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:34 AM
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Don't studies show virgins and people over 5 bodies have similar divorce rates? Study showed ideal partner count was 2-3 for longest lasting marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:30 AM
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Depends. Lots of men on r/dating have cried about meeting many women who don't want them for a relationship. Many women these days (esp nyc) prefer fwb situations. Only women who desire a relationship with the men they sleep with lose out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:28 AM
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Or like the good ole days, no sex before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:04 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:03 PM
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Plenty of mgtow men are from countries with legal prostitution though. Same problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:01 PM
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It wasn't old or small. The ratios are still the same. You can see interracial divorce rates from every past year.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 04:40 PM
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Do men who's wives get fat lose attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:40 AM
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The main complaint from black women is the gap between successful black men and other races of men. They just want partners who can afford to raise a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:36 AM
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Op said nothing about marriage. They said women have options. Bw had low rates because the black community doesn't value marriage. However in middle class brackets black women do get married and by 40 most black women have been married, they just push it later.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:35 AM
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Not sure what you mean by this? Most black women get no shortage of attention. In old, they may not be as popular as white women but numbers wise they have options. Check YouTube. I've seen black women do case studies seeing how many men send them messages based on their hairstyle. Even average bw get 100s of messages. One girl showed her bumble, hinge and plenty of fish. Look at this girl: https://youtu.be/AWPqkNaE3PA hundreds of likes in a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:44 AM
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This is the interesting fact I don't understand about red pill men like Kevin Samuels. They make fear mongering videos about black men leaving for non black women but data shows black men in interracial marriages have highest divorce rate (200% more likely to divorce than white couples) but black women are complete opposite having lowest divorce rates when they marry out (44% less likely to divorce than white couples). There is a common denominator yet every issue in the black community is blame…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:39 AM
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Have you been to Asia? At the very least their dating apps make men include their income.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:34 AM
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They say choose better yet leave non black women at higher rates of single motherhood than even black women. 🤔 so it seems all races of women who choose black men aren't choosing "the right bm".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:33 AM
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60% of men in history didn't die from war though..... it had an impact but much lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:30 AM
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Women purposely got fat to not attract their partners. And most star fished. They weren't actively participating until the free love movement. Stop romanticizing the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:28 AM
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This is disgusting. Do you know study?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:00 PM
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Apparently only 4% of child custody even goes to court.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:55 PM
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He expects all that and then wants to go half? The audacity 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 12:33 AM
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Nope that article said it's possible in "some" arranged marriages not that they occur overall. There will always be a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:40 PM
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Really an article? How about reading the comments by actual desis: https://amp.reddit.com/r/ABCDesis/comments/ac3hqu/i_call_bs_on_the_love_marriages_have_higher/ they themselves say there is no love.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:40 PM
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Nope, plenty of commentary has been documented about the lovelessness in Indian arranged marriages. Divorce is shamed so women can't leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:26 PM
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I'd say opposite. Marriage back then was mostly to transfer wealth. It's always been about money. Recently marriage for love is a thing. If women were in love they wouldn't have had to be socially pressured to stay with their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:24 PM
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Pretty sure divorce is lower because couple is highly educated. College educated couples have a 30% divorce rate compared to 55% divorce rate for uneducated couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:18 PM
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So how would men be more likely to answer differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:59 PM
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20% isn't majority and a 7% difference is pretty insignificant compared to the 50% gap of women not wanting a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:53 PM
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The study they linked is behind a pay wall and only compares cohabitation and married couples. Not single people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:30 PM
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Kids definitely make things more difficult as for most parents, especially moms, they feel a loss of identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 07:17 AM
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So all surveys here are worthless? But we've been posting them all month.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 07:16 AM
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So only the stats you want to matter matter? Most of the studies posted on this sub are surveys and most aren't even close to pew research.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 07:13 AM
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I'm sorry. I'm not here for the gloating either but I am a bit torn. I just want the best for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 07:11 AM
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These are high school sweetheart types. 44% of single moms were married and average age of divorce was 27. By red pill logic, chads don't marry young.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 05:22 AM
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I agree with your first statement. I'm sure this is how many women think however your second statement is factually incorrect. Most marriages have a 2 year age gap, not 5. Most successful marriages are same age partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:56 AM
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So Dolan only retracted one part of his argument. The data still reported single women being happier. Even the Guardian made the edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:47 AM
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It's capitalism. Just like how they made obese barbie to get new sales, they're trying to tap into the woke market. However younger women prefer different brands like Rihanna's lingerie, Amazon bras, or lane Bryant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:25 AM
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I am using my brain and data shows women only seek older men to date who are 2-3 years their senior. Only 7% of relationships have a 10 year or more gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:20 AM
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The one's who do are either unattracted to their husbands or view sex shamefully as a result of religious upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:08 AM
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I'd also argue the single 30+ mothers they despise actually "did it right" by their ideal in terms of marrying young and having children, unfortunately more often than not these women are the ones who end up divorced mid 30s and shamed by red pill men. Life is unpredictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:06 AM
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What they do by dating and marriage stats show they prefer nothing more than a 2 year gap for partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:57 AM
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It was debunked? Did we discuss it here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:56 AM
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Why not escorts? Doesn't it cost more to go on many dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:54 AM
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Do you have a statistical survey on that. All the studies that pop up say single women report highest life satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:53 AM
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When you say choose a partner based on life goals that translates to money. The tingles is the closest thing to authenticity for women. Plenty of women marry for money so that's a loveless marriage. Not ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 01:16 AM
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How do they take it by force when what they want is validation from women. Like how disney movies play out. They want a genuine relationship, not forced rapes. That's why incels despise "cheating" by getting prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 01:11 AM
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They do. They get women who aren't shamed by their sexuality. The free love movement gave today's men active participants in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:47 AM
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Okay maybe to 45 but that graph about people from the Netherlands also shows more prefer to remain single in comparison to men their age. Only 40% of them want a relationship at the moment. So 60% of them just prefer where they are in life romantically at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:30 AM
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I see where you're coming from but that can only be a hypothesis without actual data. We'd have to wait and see. Also, younger women seek men in their age bracket until age 38/39 where they seek men who are younger than them. Only 7% of women date or marry 10 years older or more. Another 15% marry men younger than them. However vast majority of women marry 2-3 years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:27 AM
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Considering most people marry their own age or at a 2 year gap you may be an anomaly? Age gaps over 5 years are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:19 AM
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Don't be. Men are just human.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:11 AM
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So your argument is women over 40 do not desire a relationship because no one desires them? Is that correct? Have you seen the stats that say 15% of women marry men younger than them? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships Also what about the men? Aren't they worse off if not even women in their 20s, 30s, 40s who they seek aren't desiring them? How is that the ideal of the bachelor life?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:01 AM
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Actually I do, my mind has changed often and I'm already much more purple pilled than blue from before I joined this forum. I just need a stronger argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:58 PM
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But these patterns are found in European countries without these laws of getting 50% in divorce etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:56 PM
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But with whom exactly? Most women average only 2 years their senior for marriage. Studies show women prefer men their age up until age 38-39: https://www.businessinsider.com/dataclysm-shows-men-are-attracted-to-women-in-their-20s-2014-10
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:55 PM
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Here it is: https://www.businessinsider.com/dataclysm-shows-men-are-attracted-to-women-in-their-20s-2014-10 Men attracted to early 20s, women attracted to men their age until 38/39.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:54 PM
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So it wouldn't make a significant impact on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:36 PM
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But studies show women in their 30s prefer men their own age up until age 39 where they prefer to date and marry younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:33 PM
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Not necessarily, that means the mothers end up paying more for the children than the men. You can't raise a kid on that 280 a month. Kids get sick and especially poor people don't have insurance. Kids come with lots of unexpected payments. Therefore men who decide to not actively participate in their child's life contribute a miniscule amount. Also, as someone who's lived in the hood at one point $280 is how much my counterparts would pay for sneakers or a cell phone. Yes, plenty of lower class …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:32 PM
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Ah okay this makes more sense. So basically the desperate women are from 30-39. I can see that. Lots of women try to partner up by then with whoever is nearby.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:28 PM
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Only 60% of child support is paid out and average child support payment in the USA is $280. However, it has been calculated that a child typically costs a parent in the USA $1,081 a month after daily expenses and unexpected bills. In terms of 401k, 1/3 of women make more than men (so he'd get some of hers), 1/3 of women make close to their male counterparts, 1/3 of men make more than women by a greater percentage. Trust me, women marry more for the fantasy of a happy marriage than for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:24 PM
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Studies show women in 30 prefer their own age up until age 39 where they prefer dating and marrying young men. A man in his 40s would have to be a chad of sorts or rich to attract a younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:18 PM
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Wouldn't this make them unhappy though? Especially if they aren't "hvm". Typically the older they get the more incentives they need to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:16 PM
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But the article mentions "desire". It says they don't desire a partner, not that they can't get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:15 PM
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I didn't! lol I was just looking in the purple pill search bar though. But even if it were menopause, the end result is the same. Women still don't want it so how could they be sad about what they do not desire? In this case menopause may be a savior for post wall women. Also the studies don't mention menopause so what is the correlation?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:14 PM
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Alimony is in only 8% of all divorces though and most end after 5 years. That's not enough of a reason to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:11 PM
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I thought the sex drive of men rapidly decreases as they get older. Men's testosterone drops by 1% every year after 30. Maybe they prefer companionship?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 09:50 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 09:43 PM
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but only 38% of single parents use something like food stamps no?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 09:43 PM
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Tell that to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 07:45 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:41 AM
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Let me see? Men. They're 7x more likely to leave a sick spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:35 AM
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Haven't men on this subforum said that the person a woman chooses to have casual sex with should be the same type of person she chooses for an ltr. That it wouldn't be fair to the man that she won't desire him the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:30 AM
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So how about those women use their female counterparts tax money? You want to force women to rely on you not actually like you. This is why starfish sex was so prevalent pre free love.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:24 AM
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As a woman I agree. Tbh, reading more of the perspectives of men on here has made me much more empathetic. Mgtow forum did the opposite. Those who are privileged should stand back to reflect every once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:21 AM
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Women statistically date 2-3 years older though. Their partners are in other age brackets.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:35 PM
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True colors come out when a woman is vulnerable and a mN is horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:23 PM
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Best answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:40 AM
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Actually no, women are more likely to get raped by male friends and family. Not strange attractive men they go on a date with. It's typically the male orbiters who wait until they are vulnerable. This has been documented that 70% of rape victims knew their rapist personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:58 AM
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Well only 28% of single over 40 women desire a relationship so I'm not understanding the argument that they actually want men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:54 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:52 AM
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Men leave when a hot young woman is possible to have. That's why alimony began 50 years ago, men left their wives much more commonly for other affairs. Their wives had no skills after 30 years of marriage so they could barely survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:50 AM
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So we are redefining hypergamy now? It has one set definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:47 AM
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Because women still feel unsafe. Men are stronger, thirstier and may rape if a woman lets her guard down. Most women who are raped (70%) are raped by male "friends" and family members. It's never a good idea for a woman to let her guard down around a group of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:29 AM
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Not necessarily. He was barely scraping by until he started women bashing. His black Male YouTube audience was stuck at around 20k late 2019. Then he focused on the money maker, red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:25 AM
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It's entertainment even alpha Male strategies couldn't put his advice to use on the streets of NYC. He chickened out in one of his lives. It was quite entertaining seeing this "expert" get cold feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:23 AM
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The roommates actually complained that their male audience only wanted women bashing material and not actual self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:20 AM
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Every example here is about the 50s. Seldom do good things last and women then divorced at much higher rates than now. Apparently even women then didn't like their options. Also, people were less transparent as airing dirty laundry was taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:16 AM
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Sure about that. Most women receive attention their entire lives. Especially older women in cities like NYC who get hit on for breathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 03:50 AM
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Which is why men in history had to control them. Even in agricultural times alpha men had 17 women to themselves. Besides men being lost to war, most women in polygamous alphas. Only 40% of men in history have reproduced. You guys want new age sex, but that's only reserved to attractive men whether by status, wealth or physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 03:24 AM
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No most sex by women was shamed under religious and non religious societies. A quick Google search will show you that. Yes, those minority of women were either raped or ran away with men they found sexually attractive not men they were pressured to pair with. Modern times aren't comparable to the past. Did you forget "wifely duty". This was a term used to pressure wives into sex with their husbands. It was considered a duty. Not something to enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 03:21 AM
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Of course some women like status and some women are drug addicts, known to sleep with their dealers in exchange for a fill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 03:17 AM
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Really? Haven't women been blamed throughout history since Adam and Eve was a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:51 AM
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Women like attractive men period. Even the cute nerd gets tail.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:49 AM
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For a relationship no, for hot enjoyable sex with someone you find genuinely attractive yes. Very few men get to experience both. Women's sexuality is actually a recent phenomenon. For most of history there was no enjoyment for 90% of them. Sex was solely for child bearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:44 AM
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Studies have already shown women are more mentally affected by abortion and adoption. They also lose their figures and identity. Also 40% of of government ordered child support isn't even paid and those that are is miniscule.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:29 AM
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So should women pair up with men who don't give them the tingles like they did in the past? The infamous starfish sex for child bearing? Women can only enjoy sex with men they find attractive. Most men in history never experienced willing sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:28 AM
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Depends, in new York it's over 30%. Most ambitious people are in cities which have higher percentages of high earners. Of course Dayton,Ohio or Wichita, Kansas will have lower salaries where 70k is a 100k equivalent
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:22 AM
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And having children is somehow noble?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:15 AM
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Statistically how much of a cross over? I'm mid twenties but subbed to those just out of curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:19 PM
2

Clearly you've never been to NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 06:18 PM
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I'm curious, how do you feel about that? Any drama in relationship? Insecurity?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 06:16 PM
1

Statistics show only 28% of single 40+ women desire a relationship vs 74% of single 40+ me. This is from the pew research study called "profile of single Americans " released 2020.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 06:21 AM
0

There's literally stories on reddit of women who broje up with their partners after hearing about their past. I've seen it 1st hand. I'd do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:18 PM
2

Techbros make bank from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:27 AM
1

Marry a high earning partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:12 AM
4

Yea, anything less than 10 is ideal for men I want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:10 AM
2

The average is 2 years not 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:34 AM
1

Women don't initiate the divorce they are first to file. Studies also show they are the one's who do all administrative work in marriage so it'd make sense they'd be the one's to do the filing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:38 AM
1

It boomed because women filled in the work gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 12:46 PM
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It's not recent anything. It's our fairy tales doing damage. Most of marriages in history have been loveless.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 12:42 PM
1

Arranged marriages have similar divorce rates though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:48 AM
1

That's all humans. Everyone wants better than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:17 AM
3

Yes there was, are you forgetting a woman couldn't even open a bank account with out a male signature? There were tons of stipulations that forced them to marry. Including being shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:58 PM
1

Lol of course. A study with no valid proof. Just hypotheticals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:25 AM
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Women didn't have standards in the past. Most didn't even love or were attracted to their husbands. They married so that they wouldn't end up on the streets, stuck home or in a brothel. That's why marriage rape and abuse was common and why sex was called wifely duty. The women star fished because sex with the men they had to pair up with was unappealing. Men themselves went to brothels to get what their wives didn't want to give them. Standards are high now because a woman can choose to sustain …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:23 AM
6

Don't studies show those with same partner count match up?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:19 AM
1

If this is an old study it make 0 correlation to today where people are way more honest about sexual history because of lack of religious guilt and/or societal acceptance of virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:19 PM
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This isn't evidence. They don't even know how many may have lied.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:17 PM
0

Doesn't this imply women don't just want them for their money and aren't gold diggers? Last I checked gold diggers don't care how you look but red pill men love to claim modern women as so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:14 PM
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That's for within college. Remember red pill logic says young women date much older so the extra 13% is those women with their 30+ year old boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:06 PM
2

Red pill also says young women are sleeping with older men so by that logic the extra 13% could be the men over 30 like is often proclaimed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:04 PM
1

According to red pill logic those 20 year olds are dating older men. So that's why it's 13% higher, the young women are with their 30+ year old boyfriends. I remember Kevin samuels saying he has to beat them off with a stick as so many hot young women were after him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:01 PM
1

Since it's self reported, then the male data is equally unreliable by your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:05 AM
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How? It says 40% of college women are sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:00 AM
-1

So you only believe stats that reaffirm what you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:10 AM
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Pill kills sex drive very often.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:01 AM
1

I think you mean 13% more women are having sex not 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:50 AM
2

Statistically the average couple in the USA has a 2 year gap. Only 7% of all sexual relationships and marriages in the USA have a 10+ year gap. It's uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:31 AM
3

Money. Stability. However vast majority stick to a 2 year gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:52 PM
6

👀 disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 02:03 PM
2

Ok? When women want a gap it's typically 2-3 years. Not much. Not like the numbers men give here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 07:08 AM
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Nope only 7.6% of all relationships in the USA have a 10+ year gap of older many and many of those are remarriages in later years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:34 PM
2

Is that why men regularly visited brothels? Women weren't active participants in the bedroom until the sex revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:29 PM
1

Same for men. Lots of men lie about their age online. I've seen many women complain about it on r/dating and r/okcupid. Men know women prefer men at the age they are. 20s women prefer young 20s men. Especially women before 25, they prefer men in their age group the most. A mans money isn't a woman truly liking him or his smv increasing, it's liking his resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:28 PM
2

So that data includes women who marry 10 years younger. Still not common at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:17 AM
2

Which data? Is that the all age gap data that includes women married to men 10 years younger? Also that number may include divorced 40 year old women remarried to 50 year old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:55 AM
1

Under 10, but your husband sounds ideal. I'm also a later virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:29 AM
1

Tbh, as a virgin I'd understand why he'd lie. Virginity is best when both are virgins in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:16 AM
1

Yep virgin is ideal. For men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:14 AM
2

Yep, perfect number. I'd want a guy to just be less than 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:13 AM
1

I hope I don't get a liar like this. I only want a low n count man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:12 AM
5

Did they? Or are people more open about it now?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:57 AM
2

I'm confused why women are fine with that but not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:53 AM
1

Well the comments are hinting at them being more driven.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:52 AM
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I don't care about 6 feet. I'm 5'1 so 90% of men are tall enough. My ideal is 5'7-5'10. Id date taller or shorter based on overall attractiveness. It's not ridiculous to prefer young men. Especially when it's feasible. Don't be bitter about it. Studies already show we prefer our own age, I'm not any different from the next woman in that regard. Also why do men care about a 35 year old woman than a 28 year old? It's just a number by your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:51 AM
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Not really. I'm in big tech and they're pretty comfortable. The men I've met are laid back and prefer ltr. Lots are looking to buy homes atm. I'm not even in SV. There are other hubs. Either way their employment prospects are stable enough. I don't know many startup men, just faang types.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:47 AM
2

What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:57 AM
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Older men want to marry early and quick. I do go for who's attractive which is typically younger men. I also don't have much experience so younger men are more similar to me. I want a man with less sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:56 AM
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26, Because they feel old and look older. More stubble and lines. 28 year olds have similar life experiences and youthful vibrancy. 32 is more jaded. I just prefer men my age. There are attractive older men but they were always more attractive when younger. I get nervous matching with men over 30. It'd be better meeting them in a real life setting where their personality shows first. I'd also mention I'm in tech so I've been used to stable men my own age throughout my 20s. I'm not forced to date…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:37 AM
2

What about leisure. We would have to get rid of weekends and men would work all hours like during the industrial times. If half the workforce left there would be no time for men to do anything really. Most women weren't stay at homes. They did some work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:30 AM
2

Why don't men want this for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:28 AM
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Many women of the past had to do that in order to not live on the streets. If I could marry a man I'm highly physically attracted to at 25, I wouldn't mind being a stay at home if he's a good person. However I'd pray he wouldn't get sick or injured because I wouldn't have any marketable skills to enter ymthe workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:27 AM
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Old men, like over 35. I'd only date 25-31. Preferably 27/28.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:24 AM
1

Yep, "die alone" is the new one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:12 AM
1

But look at Jeff Bezos, shoot bill gates, Denzel Washington, even Joe Rogan. They all dated or married post wall women while already rich. Jeff is with a woman older than his wife with 3 kids and he can pull a 21 year old. There are many more famous men who've married post wall women. If millionaires have done it I 100% believe average men have as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:11 AM
1

You are an anomaly then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:05 AM
1

Doesn't dating app data for women show they prefer men their age or a bit older?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:04 AM
1

This is the real answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:03 AM
3

Lol same.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:02 AM
4

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:58 AM
1

How are options better when women who get married early 20s divorce at rates much higher than those who married early 30s? Do those early 20s women have bad options?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:57 AM
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Men in their 30s have options with women in their 30s because it's the women who decide to finally date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:54 AM
1

Data says complete opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:45 AM
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Lol that's me, and yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:43 AM
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I think a career is much more fulfilling than being forced to depend on a man you aren't attracted to and having kids. Many women in the past did this and could not leave even with abuse. Working is freedom for many women. Freedom to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:20 AM
0

But western countries would want that because women entering the workforce have men leisure time and kept us competitive with Asia. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:18 AM
1

Depends, plenty of scholarships for Jewish, black, native and latino men. Their numbers are also just as bad though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:16 AM
1

So what motivates women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:15 AM
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So why do women work hard? For themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:09 AM
0

How is this women's fault? Isn't it capitalism that wanted women to enter the workforce when there was a labor shortage? Isn't that how America got the upper hand? Wasn't that men deciding?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:54 AM
2

And Russian women for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:59 AM
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It's true high value men marry equally educated women and successful women. Not the waitress or bartender these men love to claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:54 AM
1

Women like paperwork more? Also abuse is pretty high in lesbian relationships. Women are also less likely to let cheating fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:52 AM
2

So what happens when you remove 50% of the workforce? You get to keep your pleasures? If I remember correctly women entering the work force allowed men to get leisure time and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:50 AM
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That's rare. Less than 2% and when fraud seems likely or someone was under the influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:48 AM
1

But less than 8% of divorces even end in alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:05 AM
1

So doesn't this prove the opposite of what red pill men say? Women only want tall 6 figure men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:54 AM
1

You're in an ideal age. A year of traveling or exploring yourself won't hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:03 AM
1

Reminds me of the FB page, "I regret having kids" or on reddit r/regretfulparents.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:01 AM
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This is sad. Maybe save up and spend a few months abroad? Not the wild party type but nice experiences like trekks and language or art acquisition. 30 is very young.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:00 AM
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Reddit has several posts by young parents who say they love their kids but wish they waited.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:52 AM
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Not feminists but their mothers or family who felt trapped in their relationships so told women to get that education and job so that they could have the power they never did. Many women back in the day felt trapped because they couldn't work or pursue their dreams. Even men tell the youth to enjoy their life. Lots of posts on reddit by young parents say they wished they waited a bit longer before marriage and kids. They wish they experienced more life. Look at all the regrets of their 20s posts…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:45 AM
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Because they want validation and true love like the movies. That was even more rare in the past than it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:22 AM
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So what's the problem? They can easily pay for hookers now. Also, those acts were still shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:20 AM
1

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:17 AM
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So, nothing new has changed. Women didn't like their partners then either. They weren't having sex for enjoyment just procreation. That's why it was called wifely duty. Plenty of women were stuck with men they weren't attracted to so the wouldn't be homeless. It was already r deadbedrooms. By forcing women to marry men they don't want you'll get bitter reluctant wives who play dead in the bedroom or try everything in their power to unattract you. The sex you see in porn only comes about when wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:13 AM
2

Exactly, I thought height aline is what "women want ".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:03 AM
2

This is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:01 AM
4

Are you in tech or finance?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 11:54 PM
2

Sounds like an ideal divorce almost.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 06:02 PM
2

Yes, at least 80% is done after 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 11:27 PM
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That's unfortunate. NYC is typically much easier for men. You just need a descent job and exist from what I've heard when west coast tech guys move to NYC. It's like they went from invisible 5 years to high demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 06:36 AM
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Visit any tech forum and read their polls. All they do on reddit and teamblind is complain about west coast dating options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 06:34 AM
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Alimony is less than 8% of divorces and is short term. Child support is $3,400 a year avg across America. Kids cost way more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 06:31 AM
1

Actually that's a pretty strong argument. I don't know but it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 03:18 AM
2

But even more hot fit and successful women. SF isn't known to have women who put effort into their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 03:17 AM
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Fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:57 PM
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NYC is the best for men. SF on the other hand is tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:47 PM
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Yes they did, only 40% of men in history passed on their genes. Incel is nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:46 PM
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They're typically the most masculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:45 PM
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No it's called assortative mating. People date and marry in their class. This is seen in all income brackets.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:42 PM
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Yep, "breakingmom" subreddit is a thing. Most of those women are married. Happiness studies show they aren't the main beneficiaries of marriage. Often times the women are taking care of the men despite also working.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:35 PM
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Is that you in the profile pic? You look handsome. What's holding you back?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 03:19 AM
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Social clubs or events.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 03:17 AM
5

Happy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 03:16 AM
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😂😂😂 exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 03:14 AM
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Ew no. Never. That's my dad basically. I'd rather date a 22 year old tech bro with 0 social skills but good salary. Edit: also age gaps of 20+ years have a 95% increased risk of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 03:13 AM
1

Ok... there are no studies that disprove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:18 AM
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NYC men definitely do. It's very classist. Harvard guys are not bringing home the hot waitress.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 12:49 AM
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College educated couples already have lower divorce rates. 20% lower in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:55 PM
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Id say opposite. A 35 year old brain is fully matured. 20 year olds are unstable. That's why they have high divorce on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:53 PM
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Depends, divorced men are still 15% more likely than divorced women to desire remarriage. Study: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:38 PM
2

But dating app stats don't represent most people just those who use dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:34 PM
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But after 40 women prefer being single. It's men who want relationships most. According to pew research data on singleness in America. Only 28% of 40+ women desire relationships vs 74% of 40+ single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:32 PM
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When they didn't, sex was only for children not pleasure. It was dead bedroom. Women were encouraged to not have sex with their husbands as "sex is bad."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:30 PM
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Only 40% of men in history got that. The other 60% never passed on their genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:28 PM
1

Just type the wall is age 25 on YouTube. A popular red pill guru started the trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:27 PM
1

There are studies that show divorced men desire remarriage more than divorced women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 03:09 AM
1

Pew research did a study on single people in America. Only 28% of single women over 40 wanted a relationship vs 74% of single over 40 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 03:01 AM
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Did they appreciate them? Women had no other choice. Either live on the street or marry. Someone posted an excerpt of marriage advice women followed from the early 1900s. Basically they were told to do everything they could to not have sex with their husbands, even getting fat if they had to. Men using brothels was common. None of these couples had fulfilling sex lives. Sex was to make children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 09:03 PM
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Lots of mgtow data is self reported but they love to use it when it suits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 04:55 AM
2

Stats say otherwise but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 02:20 PM
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Exactly. Someone has posted a study that showed as women age they prefer men their age vs men prefer early 20s women as ideal. However early 20s women want nothing to do with 30 year old men as they prefer young 21-25 year olds. Only rich men have access.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 08:26 AM
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Tech bros make bank and still can't pull women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 08:17 AM
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Yes they do. Most young women are attracted to men their age or 2-5 years older max. There are studies that show a gap of 5 years increases chance of divorce by 18%. 10 years by 39% and 20 by 95%. Check out dating and relationship age gap statistics. 70% of people date and marry at a 5 year difference or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 08:16 AM
1

What a great mindset. I hope to have a successful relationship as well in the near future.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:13 PM
1

Goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:11 PM
5

New York Times article. https://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/20/is-there-anything-good-about-men-and-other-tricky-questions/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:07 PM
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No they didn't. There was 17 women for every 1 man in prehistoric times that reproduced. Always the top men got their pick. Even in polygamy. Only wealthy men engaged. It was practically survival of the fittest men that could get a woman. Today things are much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:04 PM
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80% of women in history reproduced vs 40% of men. That's all you need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:01 PM
0

Have you seen the data of sexual assaults for men vs women in the us military? It is 10x more likely for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:55 AM
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Yes but data exists for a reason. The military has it's own rules and people are far from security where cameras are on every street. It should be obligatory but genders separate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:54 AM
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Women would be drafted and would want to if they didn't have enemies on both sides of the war. Tell women they'd be completely separate from all men and they'd happily fight for the country in many capacities
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 08:07 PM
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I'm sure women would happily join if there was complete separation from all males. There's high rates of rape during service which is why women don't join. They can servethe military in other capacities without being alongside the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 08:04 PM
2

And which gender are people afraid of going outside at night for?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 08:01 PM
1

The socialization part makes sense because men are automatically seen as a threat from both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 07:57 PM
0

I'm sure they would if rapists weren't so prevalent in the military.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 07:55 PM
1

So still an improvement. High risk people aren't marrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 01:52 AM
5

Do you have stats for that? It was worse for men previously because more women didn't make an income so they paid alimony. Today only 8% of divorces end in alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:43 AM
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It makes sense. People got married young to have sex because of Christian society and values. Marriage isn't for everyone so I see 0 problem with a lower marriage rate. People who typically make good decisions in their daily lives are the same type to choose equally yoked partners. Nothing new here at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:42 AM
2

Older men are less attractive so yes it's shallow but that's because humans are. Same reason we all want someone attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:39 AM
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Divorce is at a 50 year low because high risk people are no longer marrying. High risk: uneducated, under 25, poor, etc. Marriage has lowest divorce rates in the educated middle class. Edit: not upper middle class but overall middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 01:39 AM
4

Even lower if white, and or educated, over 25 and well employed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 01:37 AM
4

Yep, I've seen this stat. In average only 40% of men have reproduced comparedto 80% of women since the beginning of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 08:06 PM
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They don't. Look at age gap statistics and assortative mating. They marry their age and equally successful women. Basically the women who are in their social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:14 PM
2

Actually purple pill has discussed this often. Marriage hurts women more and divorce hurts men. Most women are happier single statistically. Studies show men are 2x likely to be seeking a relationship than women. Even divorced men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:11 PM
1

I would not say unrealistic. High earners marry each other statistically. Read up on assortative mating. That's why USA cities have a massive wealth gap. Filled with power couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:09 PM
1

Elon musk and jeff Bezos are beta males?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:07 PM
1

Depends. Doctors do, engineers don't according to studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:43 AM
2

No when he only focused on men he had at max 20k subs over 3 years. Men en mass only cared when he moved focus to women and his channel blew up. His least watched videos are advice for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:43 AM
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6 figures isn't rare. Maybe for black people. I believe most of the women who call in are from cities. NYC and California cities have at least 40% of men earning that much. Keep in mind women are more likely to be married than men so low earning men very often end up single for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:40 AM
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Do they? Only 1% of relationships in the USA have a 20 year age gap. If a little over 10% of men make 6 figures, why isn't the number closer to 5%+? Keep in mind it's also women dating 20 years younger in that stat. Lots of these men still have 0 options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:38 AM
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Very true. Especially in NYC and west coast cities. I lived in Seattle one time and tons of 6 figure earners were perpetually begging for the most average women. Looks and personality still play a part
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:36 AM
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Are you sure? Why don't women with access to young six figure earners still not want these men. Tinder did a study that showed engineer men had hardest time getting matches. In tech cities with even gender balances women still choose to not date high earning stable young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:34 AM
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Women would rather be single. They have the support network. That's probably why only 30% of black men ever get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:31 AM
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Aren't black women the breadwinners of the black community. How is that alpha when it's typically the women who provide?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:30 AM
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A 45 year old isn't alpha unless he's a millionaire. Those guys have a hard time getting non escort women in cities. So basically the 1% can attract them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:29 AM
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If 6 figures was enough for women tech bros wouldn't be infamously single. You don't even need to date 20 years older for them too. Same in NYC with finance guys. Also those numbers range. For instance, at least 40-50% of west and east coast men in cities make 6 figures. I saw he had a woman call in from California one time. Told her only 10% of men. If these women are highly educated than theyre more likely to marry other educated men. It's called assortative mating. Stats show most of these hv…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:26 AM
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Wow, interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:31 AM
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Does this include transgender people?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 01:10 AM
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I think men prefer hot women their own age for ltr but hot young woman for just sex. Ideally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 02:26 AM
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Not necessarily, mgtow stayed at least 10 years, fds isn't even 2 years old yet or just barely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 01:36 PM
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Nope, studies show men are 15% more likely to seek out remarriage and their divorced female counterparts choose not to seek out other relationships after divorce. Intent matters. "A 2014 research by Pew Research Center reveals that two third of widowed and divorced men remarried compared to only half of women. “Among previously married men, 65 per cent either want to remarry or are not sure; 30 per cent say that they don’t want to remarry. Among women who are currently divorced or widowed, only …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 03:54 PM
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As a female member of the latter group there is some truth to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 03:09 PM
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You're telling me 30s, 6 figure earning men aren't looking for women period? If you've been to any big city you'd know those men are pretty desperate and a beautiful woman is a beautiful woman. SF, San Diego and Seattle are great examples of this. Wherever there is a high concentration of men, the women do not feel any negative pressure. Especially in Seattle and SF if you throw a rock in a crowd you'll hit a six figure earning man 2/3 of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 07:22 PM
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Where's the link to the original post? Can't find it .
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/08/20 12:12 AM
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I don't see anything wrong with a preference for low body count if they themselves are low. Most people prefer those who share similar values like love before sex, etc. It's compatibility. It'd be hypocritical if they have a high number though.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/07/20 02:53 AM
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She didn't thankfully.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/02/20 04:10 AM
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I find it funny how men always bring up the Tinder study about the top 20% of men getting 80% of swipes. They never mention the okcupid study of the reverse. The top 1/3 of women got 2/3rds of all male messaging on the platform. 5x more messages as well. https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 03:25 PM
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Might want to look at the Okcupid study that showed 70% of men went after top 30% of women. Those women got 5x more messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 12:46 PM
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No, brothels were a thing and sex with their wives was for baby making. Women weren't having enjoyable sex. They laid their like dead fish until he was done.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 12:41 PM
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No it's just that women want as close to masculine as possible and a man who's been with other men feels the opposite. Nothing threatening but it's not a nice image for many women whereas women being with other women seems more understandable and feminine. Double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:01 AM
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Nope even when the women are breadwinners they still do majority housework. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/589237/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 03:44 PM
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And hypersexuality isnt? Most people are only as faithful as their options. A middle aged married man with access to hot young women would "trade up" as much as a middle aged woman with access to successful single men. Both are unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 03:38 PM
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The sample set you're getting here isn't the average 20-30 year old. It's mostly those who haven't had success in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 03:34 PM
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I was going to say something like this. It feels more imbalanced now than ever. Im convinced this sub is 75% men 25% women and of the men over half are from trp. Definitely no longer feels balanced here and I keep seeing more and more incel/mgtow/trp posts every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 03:31 PM
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Yes even breadwinner wives do majority housework and raise children. Talk about equality. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/589237/ Of course they are allowed to be weak they are weak. Hence constant paranoia of strange men. According to trp, the smv tradeoff would be equal as dont women "hit the wall" at 30 and men magically become in high demand?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 03:21 PM
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Children suffer through monthly periods and days of childbirth too? Men are getting the iuds and taking all the birth control? Men must be doing all the housework too. Men get the benefit of not being in constant fear of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 11:20 AM
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Even bezos got a 50 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 01:06 AM
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And men who end up divorced? Choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 03:08 AM
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Only when she is attracted to the man . Women never enjoyed sex until the sexual liberation as it was only for baby making. Another chore. So they just laid there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:29 PM
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Men cheat when they have options like women. Stats show men cheat at 3x the rate as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:28 PM
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Married men shouldn't find young women attractive but they do. They should never lose attraction for the woman who gave them their youth but they do. Even faithful women like jeff bezos ex wife got cheated on and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:25 PM
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Mean people will always exist. Ive heard women be shamed for being fat, having no butt or boobs or calles a butter/pizza face. It goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:24 PM
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Both men snd women were definitely shamed into not being like the previous generation. Now that they aren't they get shamed again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:22 PM
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Maybe hold these male owned companies responsible. They are ruining it for their own gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:19 PM
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Absent fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:17 PM
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Most women don't shame but friend zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:13 PM
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But even where prostitution is legal like Europe there's still mgtow and trp movement. Like incels, most people want validation. Not just sex but love.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:35 PM
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It seems to be gay and lesbians are happier than hetero couples. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2017/12/gay-and-lesbian-couples-are-happier-than-straight-couples-study.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/12/15/gay-and-lesbian-couples-are-happier-than-straight-couples-new-study-reveals/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 02:46 PM
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AMAZING
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/20 05:10 AM
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They forgot how hard it was to land a woman is why.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/20 05:05 AM
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5'6.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:59 AM
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Prior to the sexual liberation wives were star fishing and not enjoying it. They were seen as baby makers while their husbands sought prostitutes. The sexual liberation made women begin to enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:58 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/13/world/europe/13iht-letter13.html according to this article doctors USED to marry nurses. Now they marry other doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:54 AM
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In NY they commute from jersey and Westchester.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:49 AM
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And it's exactly these marriages where the women end up with alimony. Only 1/10 divorces do and that is when the partner has a significantly larger income than the spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:48 AM
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Men have always had careers though. They even worked longer hours in the past yet they married lower income woman. Now not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:45 AM
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Not really. Bosses often used to marry their secretaries or nurses for doctors. Now male doctors marry female doctors and bosses marry the accountant. Read up on assortative mating. Those women were always close but now high earning men prefer women who earn a lot as well. Especially in cities. https://quillette.com/2019/10/18/rich-like-me-how-assortative-mating-is-driving-income-inequality/ Also check out the finance and fire forums. Those guys want equally responsible partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:41 AM
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Really? Go over to r/personalfinance or the fire forum. Those regret marrying someone who wasn't good with money. Literally tanking any dteams of retirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:30 AM
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Can't women say the same. He was a great guy until she got pregnant and left?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:18 AM
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If the woman earns a similar salary or close(within 30k range) then lawyer fees and alimony aren't a consideration. Choose women who make within your tax bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:17 AM
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Exactly, discernment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:14 AM
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No it doesn't. Alimony is given in less than 1/10 of all divorces and that is only when the woman had no income at all or little relative to the man. If he makes 120k and she makes 80k. There is no alimony. If she makes 0 and gave up her career for 10+ years then yes there is alimony. Average joe has nothing to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:14 AM
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It's fair if the other spouse is contributing to the house hold. Studies show that even when women are the breadwinners they still do majority housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:11 AM
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Prenups being thrown out are incredibly rare. Less than 5% I believe and that is only if fraud is detected.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:10 AM
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Opposite for my friends and I. Definitely a turn off for a guy I'm dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:13 PM
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Not according to women on reddit and YouTube. They consider men who sleep around to be gross. Especially when they have a low n count. Ideally low n count women want low n count men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:46 PM
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So essentially by appearance you are a chad. If you aren't doing well then maybe trp has it all wrong and women care more about other qualities than looks and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:38 PM
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In what world. Even in Disney movies the hot popular girls looked down on the nerds. They were staceys. Even the media shows men to get a hot young stacey you need to be equally hot, rich or powerful. Even before the modern era you needed to have money to date or wed the most beautiful women. Marriage for love is a recent uncommon concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:36 PM
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So you'd rather go back to men working 14 hour days with 0 leisure time and dead bedrooms? You think women were giving men great sex those days? It was starfish to make babies and nothing else. Not sure where you got that idea from. When women entered the workplace the economy boomed and men got to have free time. Enjoyable sex wasn't a thing but hookers were.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:29 PM
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All I see on this subreddit is that women need to lower their standards and choose good decent men not based on looks. Now when they do there's an insecurity problem? Everyone settles. Most women prefer the top 20 but get the top 30 0r 50. Isn't this exactly what the RP community wants? Women to choose safe men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 04:36 PM
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70% of women are also competing with the top 30% of women. https://www.google.com/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/amp/ Men are 5x more likely to message the top 30%.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 04:31 PM
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Yes but that is within 3-5 years. Over 67% of women marry at a 5 year older max. 1% 20 years older. Women prefer men their age to a 5 year maximum. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships 14% of women marry younger than them while 18% marry over 6 years older. 3-5 years is same generation. People here seem to think 25 year olds are running after men over 30 which is rare. Especially 35+.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 04:18 PM
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Goals.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 11:15 PM
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