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I don't think I've actually seen a woman in real life like nerdy guys. Even the nerdy girls I've seen go after your typical chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:08 PM
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Women making money off men's suffering isn't anything new, these right leaning political women are a tiny bit better than the OF girls though. The core has always been the left hating and demonizing men. Did they think men would literally spend their lives hating themselves and being bullied and guilt tripped into whatever the democrats wanted? The right isn't the best answer, but when you have one side hating you so much, and one side being like "hey those guys who hate you are kinda nuts. I do…
/r/MensRights22/09/25 07:11 AM
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Absolutely terrible for all parties involved. It ruins men's brains by giving easy stimulation and increasing threshold for erections hence the ED epidemic, and it also sexualizes women too much and exposes them to the darker side of masculinity which damages their views of men as a whole. As a society this hyper sexualization is going to be the end of us but no one cares because guys are getting placated by porn and women are getting attention and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:32 PM
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I feel for you but honestly it's gonna be really hard to find a woman who is ok dating autistic guys, especially in this day and age. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:45 PM
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Totally agree and sadly it's already starting to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:06 PM
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Yeah, a combination of personal experience + observations. I'm obviously talking in generalities, and of course there are women who are great friends and men who are shit friends. But generally, I don't think women make good friends as a man, or are any better than other male friends as a man. I didn't mention this before, but another reason is because men generally catch feelings for their female friends which results in a whole bunch of drama, hurt, and the friendship ending anyways so might a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:27 AM
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That's great you do that, but you're also speaking from experience. The original question was asking why some men may not look for female friendships and I'm speaking from my experience as someone who doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:02 AM
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Well women don't like men in general so I'm pretty sure you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 11:52 PM
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Congrats, that's awesome. I'm glad you have such great friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 11:49 PM
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Opening up to female friends has never gone well, let's just leave it at that. Yeah, most recently a female friend reached out to me about how she was having trouble in interviews. I interview a lot of candidates, so I hopped on a Zoom call with her and did a mock interview with her and gave feedback. She passed her interview. Throughout my life I've done most of what I've mentioned before.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 11:43 PM
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>> Question why do some men seem like they enjoy this? They don't, it's a necessity. If men do this, they are trying to protect their masculinity. >> A lot of men have said the emotions they can't show to their male friends they can to their female friends. I guess it's just providing value in a different way Sadly, women can't really provide value there either. Showing weakness to women just disgusts them so there's no point in opening up to them. >> You seem like they type to view women as wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 11:28 PM
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Men provide value. A male friend will buy meals, help you move, drive you around, etc. they will also listen to all your dating issues and be your emotional dumpster. Women don't do any of that for men, in general. All the female friends I've had never gave anything back to the relationship hence why I have no female friends and why I don't want any female friends. Female friends only take, they never give. Most men have experienced this to some extent. Why would we go out of our way to be taken…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:30 PM
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Women don't need it, dating is more difficult in another way. They aren't lacking in options, but in quality. It's basically Chad or bust and no amount of PUA would help them. The only thing that would help is probably pick me stuff which is obviously frowned upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 07:04 AM
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You're right it's the Calhoun experiment, and Milgram did the prison guard one, I got them mixed up. Edited the original comment to reflect this. Definitely agree with you, we can do this a lot more nicely without the misandry and pain. What really makes me sad is this shows how much females despise males when they aren't needed, even across species.
/r/MensRights23/01/25 09:00 AM
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Yup
/r/MensRights23/01/25 03:32 AM
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There is no easy fix. What's funny is what's happening to us is similar to the Calhoun mice utopia experiment. We're tracking very closely to it and the ending isn't good (the colony went extinct).
/r/MensRights23/01/25 02:47 AM
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Honestly dealing with autistic people in general is pretty draining and tiring, so I can imagine it's not great for women to date an autistic man. Women can get away with it since men are much more forgiving but I don't blame women for not wanting to date autistic men. In fact women are doing their job, they'll hopefully select autism out of the gene pool along with other undesirable traits. Just natural selection doing its thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 09:02 AM
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Women are not empathetic. What you just described are sympathy and compassion. Empathy is putting yourself in another person's situation fully and understanding exactly what they're going through. They can do this with some other women to an extent but not at all with men. The redpill calls this solipsism which isn't entirely correct either, but not too far from the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:33 PM
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A friend has never confessed to me. I imagine this isn't something most men experience, this is a mostly women thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 09:57 PM
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This is something I've realized as I got older. They have no empathy at all, where did the lie that they do come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:18 AM
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Yes all of them. It doesn't matter the medium they use, you can call it an oligarchy if you want but the majority of people in power are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 08:32 PM
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Aren't boys part of the patriarchy that is actively oppressing women? If not they will eventually grow up to be the men who comprise the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 07:59 PM
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Definitely agree. I would argue social circle and networking is probably the most important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:16 AM
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Yeah I've argued with other guys here about money and a lot seem to think just having money solves all your problems, especially dating problems. Money doesn't hurt obviously but it will never make up for any other deficiency you have. To me this is our version of the hot girl problem, where hot girls always worry about if guys like them for them and when their looks fade or our money dries up, will the other person leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:15 AM
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Yeah I've gotten pretty disillusioned with the red pill and their advice. Money isn't the only thing, but I'm more afraid of black pill being correct. It's possible that you literally need all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:28 AM
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Depends on what self improve means. I took the RP advice and got a 6 pack and 7 figure net worth but it didn't help in terms of dating at all. Looking back it might be even more important to work on game or improving mentality rather than grinding money and the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:02 AM
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It's actually men since they're looking for a woman with realistic dating expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:47 AM
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I used to be pretty hardcore RP and I did try it in my life and it's had both good and bad effects. There's a few dangers that I would look out for: - expectation management: even if you do everything RP says, it's still possible that nothing good happens - RP is focused on short term relationships, and I wouldn't listen to their advice on long term relationships. I also wouldn't listen to BP either on any of those, but I will say that in relationships I think you do need some more BP to balance…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:48 PM
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Many people have already said depends on the society, but I think it really depends on the stage that society is in. The more a society is privileged/advanced, the more privilege women have and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:43 AM
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Exact same thing happened to me, and I've come to the same mindset as you. Statistically there will be people who never pair up so unfortunately we drew the short end of the stick. I don't know about you, but the self improvement phase did at least guarantee that I'll have a pretty comfortable life alone (I can soft retire before 40) and I don't mind being alone so it's not all bad, but it could be better. I think there's some solace in acceptance, and while sharing life with someone is the idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:49 AM
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That's bull. Why do men assume women can just wave their pussies around?Prostitutes are one of the most vulnerable populations. There's entirestretches of places throughout the US and Canada where prostitutes areroutinely killed because no one searches for them and the police don'tcare. It's true that the prostitution profession is complex, but it is still an option. Prostitution doesn't have to be physical, with the internet it's pretty safe unless you dox yourself. There's a reason OnlyFans an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:23 AM
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When I say safer I mean in terms of survival. There are more safety nets in society for you to keep living. In terms of safe, there are studies that show men are actually the victims of violent crimes more so they may actually be safer in terms of the traditional definition as well (although this might be changing, here's the graph https://www.statista.com/statistics/423245/us-violent-crime-victims-by-gender/). But originally I did mean it in terms of survival. That's why there are way less home…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:34 AM
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For sure women can experience those things, men don't have a monopoly on it and that's not what I was trying to convey. Men experience those things magnitudes greater than women though, and it's hard to explain or convey since it's an experience built upon a lifetime. And of course there's outliers and there are some unlucky women who face that same experience. But we're talking about averages here. The best way I can think of is think of those zombie movies where a group or person is all alone …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:03 AM
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To me it's pretty obvious they are hated. They are blamed for slavery, colonization, and a bunch of other stuff. There's a Netflix show called Dear White People. Go out and call a white person a cracker, you'll find you won't get much retaliation since they're in guilt trip mode and no one is going to defend them. The "cis white male" is the famous punching bag for many groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:54 PM
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That's the neat part, you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:37 PM
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​ I kind of agree and this was my point to why there's no good way to address this. When people put in work, they want the reward. As for if it should be called entitlement, to me I would disagree since to me entitlement means you think you deserve something WITHOUT having to work for it, but I've seen it being used as just the feeling of deserving something. The thing here that gets me is that there's a negative connotation with the latter definition; what if the feeling is justified? It's usua…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:27 PM
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I totally agree with the study and this has been conventional wisdom that's been lost within the current generations. We're all a lot more shallow now and picking traits that won't help nurture a family or a relationship. I wish more people were aware of this. As for going for a partner not my type, it's a compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:05 PM
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There isn't really a good way to address it. Reading your post and replies makes me think you don't know much about the male experience. In terms of entitlement, of course there's going to be the odd ones here and there that actually do feel entitled to a relationship just by existing. However, I can tell you that a vast majority of men learn from a young age that nothing is given for free and it has to be earned some way. If you studied hard for an exam and fail it and you're angry, would you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:48 PM
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Women are naturally supportive of eugenics. That stuff about creating a master race isn't too far off from what they subconsciously seek. That's why they want the famous 666 because those superior genes will keep propagating through time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:09 AM
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I'm probably an outlier but it's been like playing on nightmare mode for me. I don't see it getting better, so I've kinda made peace with it. My personality and looks make it really hard to find anyone that would be OK with that kind of lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:42 PM
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Of course. Men still have traditional expectations and women can do what they want. Many women in the west today are masculine, in fact they want to be and are encouraged to be. Femininity is seen as negative which shouldn't be the case IMHO.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:25 AM
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Exactly its the qualitymatch for the whole package. Sure, but we're talking about the average man and like I mentioned before, the average man isn't a criminal or a junkie. Does this include exceptionally ugly men? I thought it was obvious, but women want exceptional going in the positive direction. Most everyone does. By definition, someone who is average isn't exceptional. If this wasn't true, I think we'd be seeing a whole different world than we're seeing now. I've seen so many deadbeat men …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:21 AM
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Yeah I agree with you there as well. The average man is more inexperienced than what RP would call "alphas" or "HVM" due to being unwanted. This is very similar to the chicken and egg problem of an inexperienced person beginning their job search. All companies want experienced employees, but employees need to get that experience by having a job. What ends up happening is there's a huge bidding war over very experienced employees whereas the junior/entry level ones get nothing. This is what's hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:57 PM
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No for sure, everyone is capable of that. However, as an average guy, you aren't getting a lot of options. To me it still makes no sense why an average guy would mistreat their slim prospects as you said. The commenter made it seem like average guys are guilty of mistreating women en-mass. If you can only get a partner every few years as an average guy, why would you talk down to her, not care for her, etc and increase the chances of her leaving you and then having to go through the grind to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 09:18 PM
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Maybe, but I highly doubt that. To me it makes no sense for an average guy, who already has a ton of trouble dating, to suddenly treat a woman who has agreed to date him badly. That's like being stranded out in the desert and when you find a small water pool, you destroy it. Add in the PC culture we have now and I don't see the incentive for average men to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 06:52 PM
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Your average man isn't a criminal or a junkie. On the other side a bald, fat, ugly, rich man will have women. I'm not talking about just looks here, an average man includes the full package. 5'8, 50k per year, a bit overweight, no exceptional talents or skills. You can change the parameters around a little as long as you don't go too far. So 5'9, 40k per year, a bit overweight is still average. 5'7, 50k per year, a bit fit is still average. Women want the exceptional, so drug dealers who aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 06:44 PM
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This will work if you're already starting from a pretty high base. It's becoming more and more common that below average women don't want average men. So even if a man lowers his standards, even those women may not want him. If you're a man who needs self improvement, lowering your standards probably won't work since that won't change women's expectations. Women across the entire spectrum are more willing to be single and alone than "settle" for your average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:58 AM
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The main difference I've seen is that some incels are willing to self improve to better their odds and make themselves more attractive; I don't think I've seen a "womancel" have that same mentality.
/r/MensRights10/01/22 10:27 PM
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I'm assuming you meant it doesn't mean they want to be with them, I get your point. It sounds like they wouldn't like it for a long-term relationship, but may be agreeable to something more short-term with stoic men. Given the prevalence of hookup culture, women who like stoic men may not be a majority but I'm guessing they wouldn't be exceptions either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:14 AM
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Decent points, definitely get where you're coming from. I was thinking that when men express these emotions, they are feeling them for the most part. The women themselves may not care much for the emotion, but the side-effects of the emotion are what they really do care about. At that point can you say you like men who exhibit this emotion even if you don't care for the emotion itself? I'm not sure. For the second study my only point is that stoicism is more attractive than displaying happiness,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:17 AM
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I wouldn't say they're the exceptions, they're a lot more common. This post that references a few studies shows that prideful men are rated very attractive: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/aesthetics-101/201707/what-is-the-sexiest-emotion-men-display This one shows that stoic men are rated more attractive than happy men: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/110524070310.htm I think there is something to be said about men displaying traditional masculine traits in their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 07:52 PM
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In my personal experience showing emotion is a huge turn off. Don't think I've ever seen a guy increase his attractiveness by being emotional in front of a woman. Also not exactly the same, but there was a study that showed women found stoic looking men more attractive than smiling men: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/110524070310.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 07:43 PM
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That's a tough one because good build and good posture can make up for it if he shaves his head. Some women are into that bald and buff look. However, I think he'll still have some issues. Being kind, honest, and truthful won't make him any more attractive. I know tons of guys who are good guys and get passed over like they're nothing. There was a recent study within the past 4 years that supports this: https://www.miltonkeynes.co.uk/news/looks-are-all-that-matter-when-women-choose-a-man-say-sci…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:01 AM
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Depends, even if they're not hot there's a lot that goes into looks. Height, build, hair, posture, etc. Are we talking about a guy who fails in all of those? If so, I'd guess she's getting something else out of that relationship or it most likely won't last long.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 08:29 AM
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Yeah money can definitely help, but I still think there's a limit to what it can do. At least for now....judging by the progress plastic surgery is making it might be possible to just design your body like you want in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:57 AM
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Yeah it's too bad. For my friends particularly the girls are super picky, and the guys are stuck in a bad rut and don't know how to become more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:56 AM
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Definitely one possibility. I've talked to my female friends and for them it's mostly about picking the right guy but no guy meets all their criteria. My male friends are having trouble attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:53 AM
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The thing is they get their foot in the door; from there they have the choice and potential for anything else they may want. Personality traits like kindness, respect, and being a good person don't matter if the guy isn't hot good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:34 AM
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I've responded to every single one of your points and provided you the sources you wanted. I've made many different points which you dismiss with the same thing over and over. I've even asked you to clarify your points and haven't gotten any answers to them. It's you who are not willing to hear anything outside your purview, and continue with personal attacks. If you've noticed I haven't once attacked you as a person, and it's sad that the mutual respect isn't there. Regardless I wish you the be…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:17 AM
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So you only need to provide sources when you make a claim that X is more important than Y? That makes no sense to me. You still made your own claims. How is making a statement that one is more important than the other stupid or lazy? It allows a person to prioritize and plan accordingly. It's actually lazier not to do that, saying it's all important. If you can order by importance, that will allow people to make informed decisions on which ones they can concentrate on. This is an extension of ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 11:00 PM
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Yes, and I've said that explicitly myself. These are my observations, which I have stated multiple times. This is all based on my experience. Your claim of money being the more important is exactly the same. You have provided no evidence in your response to women only being after rich men for their money, and I assume it's based on your experience as well which is fine. That's why I never asked for sources or claimed you were complaining, I'm merely introducing another worldview/experience/view …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 09:58 PM
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It doesn't change anything but it will help to manage expectations. You claim I'm complaining but can you point out exactly how? All I'm saying is that looks will get you a lot farther than money in today's climate, I never made an actual claim whether that was good or not. I even said it is what it is, I'm pretty neutral on it. Stuff happens, and instead of complaining we must adapt which is why I'm pointing out that maximizing looks will get you a lot farther than money. Men who are at the top…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:41 PM
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Fair enough, plastic surgery can definitely help. I guess for height you can do that dangerous leg lengthen procedure, but it doesn't seem worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:23 PM
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Seems like there's a lot of single people here. A lot of my female friends are complaining they can't find a man, and a lot of my male friends are having troubles finding a girl. Both sides seem to be missing each other, and it's a bit sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:22 PM
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Oh wow that's intense. I've seen a lot of plastic surgery done on women so I know they can drastically change, but for guys facial structure is important which is what I was looking for. I thought they wouldn't be able to chisel a jaw like a greed god, but the transformation you linked is still really good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:59 AM
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I've lived in LA my entire life and it really sucks here. I can't say what it's like elsewhere though, hoping it's better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:46 AM
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While generalizations aren't the best tool we have, a lot of how we navigate the world is based on generalizations and probabilities. At some point we have to use them, otherwise we'd be gridlocked when it comes to decision making. The entirely of social science is based on broad sweeping conclusions to try and explain a social phenomenon. It should be understood that within generalizations there are outliers, but the rule of a generalization is majority, so at least 51%. I don't know how you go…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:00 AM
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This is the right answer and basically what happened to me. I'm not entirely sure of the details, but if the orbiter is into her he may bad mouth you in subtle ways to make her feel even worse about you. She has more chances to emotionally bond with that guy against you, and before you know it she's with that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 09:53 PM
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This is exactly my experience with RP as well. It helped me get a girlfriend but sticking to those teachings is what also killed the relationship. I'm definitely not as red as I used to be because of this, and same as you I think a balanced view and mix of BP and RP is required for a successful relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 09:42 PM
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Like I mentioned before, they don't need to go out for meals or drinks. It's literally a hookup. Meet up for sex, nothing else needs to be done there. I didn't mean to come off as whining that women don't need men anymore, I'm stating what I've heard from women in this subreddit and extending it to a logical conclusion. It is what it is, there's definitely pros and cons to it. If women can take care of themselves, they definitely don't need men for it. If they don't need men for that, then the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 09:20 PM
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I don't understand what groceries or expenses has to do with this. It's hookups and not dating, they can set a time to meet up to bang. They aren't interested in anything long term, so they don't care about it. Women are able to take care of themselves now, they don't need men. That's why only looks matter, they only need them for sex. All based on what I've seen women on this sub reddit claim
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 08:33 PM
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Maybe, do you have any notable examples of male Korean actors that went from ugly to Chad? I might be behind the times when it comes to what plastic surgery is capable of
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 08:29 PM
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There's only so much plastic surgery can do. It can maybe make you average but girls aren't exactly going crazy for average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:59 PM
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Let me rephrase it; super hot broke assholes basically get a new girl everyday of the week if they want, in terms of the dating market they are doing very well. There's only so much you can do to min/max appearance, some things can't and shouldn't be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:57 PM
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Having money really isn't that important for a girl, at least not the primary thing anymore. It really is looks. Super hot broke assholes are having the time of their lives right now. That ugly rich guy may get a girl, but she's obviously in it for the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 10:05 AM
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I can confirm that women secretly love tentacles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:56 AM
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Glad it worked out for you! I've given up on OLD at least, I don't think it's a good use of my time but definitely appreciate the positivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:10 AM
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Sadly it just reinforced redpill theory for me. Awesome, wonderful women always going after "Chad". They showed me their Tinder/Bumble accounts and I was floored. Literally hundreds/thousands of matches, and all the matches were good looking dudes. I read some profiles too and can't believe even though they matched, my friends were still on the fence because of this or that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:55 AM
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Also want to point out that women see 80% of men as below average so if they say you're 5.5/10, which is slightly above average, that would mean you're most likely in the top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:39 AM
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Yeah I did try OLD with no luck. I didn't go as far as you said though; no professional photo shoot or anything. I'm a short asian guy who looks 10 years younger than he is, so I'm at a huge disadvantage which showed in my OLD results.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:20 AM
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Definitely agree that you should stop having a totally defeatist mentality and make the most of what you have. However in my case I did follow the red pill and it improved my life quite a bit; I'm in good shape and I have money. Those things didn't help in the dating department though, and I can definitely see the blackpill being proven true even more as time goes on. To me it's about finding purpose and enjoyment in life alone, and I think that's what blackpill men should do. I think the blackp…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:57 PM
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Apparently he can be a nazi and do very well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:40 PM
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Not really, I enjoy commenting more than actually posting a thread. I don't have too much time to spend replying to an entire thread which is why I like commenting more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:20 PM
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All I know is that women would rather be with a very promiscuous guy than a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:16 PM
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/duped-academic-journal-publishes-rewrite-of-mein-kampf-as-feminist-manifesto/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:06 PM
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Kinda already starting to happen in the western world. Not a guy marrying many wives, but many women sharing a single man and many other men left without anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:40 AM
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Hate to break it to you but hentai is real, I would know. I save dozens of women from tentacles on a monthly basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:37 AM
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Definitely true. In my experience women hate it when men show any weakness or emotion. I learned very quickly to never do any of that stuff in front of women and my interactions with women have gotten better because of it. You do have to kinda bottle your emotions up when interacting with women, but if you have some really awesome bros that's who will help you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:48 PM
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Dating Asian women is just as hard, they don't seem into it either. In the west they go after white guys mostly. Whenever I see an Asian guy with an asian girl I feel really happy for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:52 PM
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It's not evil, but it is unfair. Nature is unfair and cruel, which is what hypergamy is. However, nature ensures survival of the fittest, so it was necessary at some point and still may be. For a society obsessed with equality and fairness, it seems odd to just gloss over this which is why some people may be mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:30 PM
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I think there's 2 main reasons for this: that saying that privilege is invisible to those that have it, and also if they acknowledge the power they have that damages the whole "women are oppressed" narrative. There's no easy way for women to understand what men go through, but there's Norah Vincent's famous documentary about living as a man for a year and also some testimonials from FtM transgenders about the differences between the female and male experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 08:04 PM
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It's not a cheap substitute for the real thing, it's an alternative. Women now have access to some of the most attractive looking men in the world, why would they ever get off OLD? High status men can now easily create soft harems whenever they want. I don't see this going away any time soon. At best the only people who will stop using OLD are the bottom 80% of men, and women will be very glad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 05:15 PM
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It's an interesting perspective that I can relate to, since this is what the manosphere basically teaches men. To me this makes sense if a person doesn't care at all about family, companionship, etc and can be on their death bed and be satisfied with work accomplishments. If this isn't the case for some people, then I think it's very dangerous to mislead them into sacrificing their time to achieve something that won't make them happy. You've outlined some risks that are very real and need to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 06:35 AM
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Almost all my female friends have some crazy high standards and most of them are still single. A lot of my male friends have pretty tame standards but aren't huge chads so they are still single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:59 AM
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They can but only if the problem is universal. For example, they can empathize with a poor person, doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman. They cannot empathize with a specifically male problem though; in fact, they will most likely do the opposite and find that man disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:47 AM
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That was one of the most sobering experiences for me, seeing women I know completely change when interacting with "Chads". The difference in how they treated me and other average guys VS Chads was so unreal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 08:03 PM
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One huge mistake I've made is taking women at face value. Watch what they do instead of listening to what they say. It's not that they are purposely trying to lie to you, but in my experience they are more likely than men to be affected by the moment and allow emotion to affect their choices and preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 04:02 PM
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I do bouldering and working on just getting back into it after the year or so lock downs. Mostly just doing training on v0-v2 atm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 09:09 PM
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Yeah it's basically a requirement to be a tech bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:04 PM
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Isn't the ratio of men to women really bad around that area? I'd imagine there's some decent guys there if there's so many.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 05:41 AM
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After reading "her" replies, I'm convinced it has to be a larp as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:32 AM
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Definitely appreciate the positivity but just like your OP says it's a huge hassle. Numbers wise there are enough women for all of us, but when we actually factor in what they want that's where things get a bit hairy. Honestly I'm not sure what's going on, but something is definitely up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:09 AM
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All the ones I know are taken. The single ones must find me repulsive then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:44 AM
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Yeah my experience aligns very well with yours, except I'm in SoCal. I have a great job (recently got promoted), have a lot of money, and also go to the gym/rock climb quite a lot. No luck for me. The rules are definitely different for everyone and I'm on hardcore permadeath 10% exp mode it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:42 AM
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Yeah there's plenty of cool girls in CA. They're taken already.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:37 AM
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I'm in CA and have the opposite view. Seems hard to even get a date with an average woman and there's so many nice and decent men who are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:47 PM
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That's only true if you're insanely wealthy. Even someone who is well off but looks young will have trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:05 PM
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I don't think that's correct. I'm living proof that money and education alone won't guarantee a man is capable of dating. Depending on what is considered shallow that still might be the case for women if looks trumps money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:33 PM
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Definitely agree. Seems like you need money, looks, status, everything, etc. in order to get an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:55 PM
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LOL true. I included that since it was part of the OP, and I'm basically what the OP said should be "capable of dating" but I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:48 PM
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I have 3 cars and a nice condo in a good location in a major city, gonna be buying a second home soon. Still nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:46 PM
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CA, but gonna be buying a second home in Texas sometime soon. When I went on a scouting mission there, I did try the dating apps and didn't get a single match. I thought it was just CA dating scene being hard, but I guess the problem is more with me than the location.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:43 PM
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:'(
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:41 PM
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What do you mean by fat? I'm fine with overweight/chubby. When I say obese I really do mean obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:39 PM
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I am a millionaire and it hasn't kicked in so even that doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:37 PM
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Possible, but baring obesity, deformities or very masculine faces I pretty much would entertain most women. My bar isn't set super high in terms of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:48 AM
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I graduated with a masters in CS from a top school and have a lot of money and I'm still invisible so even with that it doesn't guarantee you're capable of dating. Honestly it seems like 65% is pretty low, they must want closer to 95% completed or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:27 AM
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I didn't know what DDLG was so I googled it and the only stuff I found was girls acting like children? Even looking at the google images for that just gave me more girls so I don't know where average men fit into this, but honestly I don't wanna look into this stuff for a second longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:09 AM
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Thanks for being patient and clarifying your position. If that quoted explanation is “hypergamy,” then how is men tending to go for women better than him in all feminine ways not “hypergamy”? I think what TRPers are doing is referring to anything related to “optimizing masculine sexual-mating characteristics” as “hypergamy.” They want to highlight dimorphic differentials but are muddying the accuracy along the way. I think you're mostly correct here, but there is a subtle difference. The masculi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:04 PM
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The reason why I doubt that they have never gotten interest is because men are pigs. They'll go after almost anyone, and 40 years is a long time. Men will even just go after young girls just because they are young, and at one point those 40 year olds were young. I guess interest is a broad term, but I'm thinking of any interest including being cat called which seems to be an epidemic according to some people. I am not dismissing their accounts, but I am suspicious. Just like if you were to tell …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:58 PM
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I agree somewhat. Sure, evolution plays a part but if you take the whole of human history it's been more than 100 years since women really needed a mate who could go all out provider and protector, especially in first world countries. I'd say we stopped needing this in the 1700s during the industrial revolution, if not the late 1600s. Women who weren't upper class still worked in the fields, textile mills, laundry steamers, coal mines, butcher shops, etc. It was a very rough life for both sexes …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:54 PM
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I don't think so. This won't work for men simply because women can get sex easier than men, they don't need to simp at all. If you take a look at cam sites and social media you can definitely find average women having simps. I can't remember the last time I saw an average man get any sort of fandom from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:46 PM
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Why is that? I'm on the opposite side, imo that's a combination of entitlement and punching above your class. Because it seems to be hard wired into them, and I don't see any usefulness in trying to negotiate attraction. I don't think being attracted to people "better" than you is entitlement, although feeling like you deserve them while not having anything to offer is. >Meh, I guess? Kinda having trouble coming up with things I'd need a better partner for...Like, okay, tallness. If I need to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:27 PM
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They can. It won't be as easy and the fandom won't be as big, but they can do it. Men have a variety of fetishes, so the average woman needs to focus on a group of these to get that fandom. Foot fetishes, feeder fetishes, etc. As long as she does what the hot girls won't do, she'll have some success.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 07:18 PM
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Mostly from personal experience and also talking to my female friends. I think some people may attribute negative assumptions to the idea that women want men better than them, but I don't. To me it's just something that exists, and it's how the way things are. I think most guys here have experienced the same as I have, so our reality might skew more towards hypergamous women. That said, I realize using stuff like "better" is very divisive and over the top. I also think RP is wrong when actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:32 PM
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I would agree with him. In western society, women have a lot more safety nets and also the natural safety net of relying on prostitution. Low value men have no safety net, so if they fail they're thrown away. This is evidenced by the huge number of male homeless vs female homeless. I think when the OP was talking about invisibility, he was talking about society as a whole. The 40 year old virgins on your forum may be invisible to men, but not necessarily invisible to society. Honestly I doubt th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:53 PM
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Even average women can have fandoms. Of course they won't be as big as super hot women, but they can do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:37 PM
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Got it, thanks for clarifying. Assuming men do need extra stuff too, it isn't the same extra stuff so I still don't think it's hypergamy. I think you're trying to conflate the two into a general definition which is fine if you want to coin a new term for that, and then a new term for the male version of it. However, I don't see the usefulness in re-defining hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:33 PM
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See, this is where my personal experience is very different than yours. I'm an extremely average guy, not particularly better than my peers at being stronger or smarter, I'm firmly middle-class, and I'm 5'8" so have dated women taller than me too. If I got involved with a woman who thought I was "better" just because I am 2" taller or make $10k more a year, or have 4 more IQ points...that'd be fucking weird and would make me uncomfortable. I certainly don't want to be the superior partner or the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:25 PM
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I respect your opinion, but I also disagree. My view is reinforced by my own personal experience which is the same for you. The reason I believe respect and admiration is required for a woman's love (even normal women) comes from a couple observations and beliefs. One is that it's inherited from how humans have had to work for almost our entire history. Women have periods of vulnerability (pregnency) where they can't do much and must be protected during those times. Another is what women look fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 04:15 AM
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Why is that? The respect is almost like an admiration, meaning a woman needs to be able to admire her man to love him. It's easier to admire people who you perceive are better than you. This perception is totally subjective on the woman's part.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:40 AM
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I 100% agree with what you just said, but I don't see what that has to do with my reply to the OP unless I missed something. To phrase it differently, I think your title is almost correct. Men and women do optimize their partner to lean more towards the other gender. Men definitely "femme-optimize" as you put it, but women do "mascu-optimize" + some extra stuff. That extra stuff is what I mentioned in my reply about needing to also respect their man. Now this respect is usually your typical tall…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:20 AM
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I get where you're coming from and actually agree with some of your points, but at the end of the day it seems like men do "settle" a lot more in that sense and know they won't get their ideal. Also, there is a big yet subtle difference in the "hypergamy" argument for women: women need to be able to respect their man to love him, but men don't need to respect their woman to love her. That respect comes from a deeper meaning of being better than her, and her perception of him compared to not only…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:23 AM
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I don't have a good estimate, but I do know all the women I've met so far are either in good relationships or complaining about not being able to keep a guy. Through the grape vine, I've heard all of them are having casual sex to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 12:07 AM
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It's a good sentiment, but I think you're wrong. As a man, you'll fall under one of two categories: - you're an average guy and raising your standards does nothing since you were already invisible to women - you're an above average guy who raises your standards, and women will either accept sharing you or not have a partner In either scenario women still "win", so this won't change the dating market. Women have been sharing high value men since humans have existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:22 PM
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Boring by what standard? If they are living out a Hollywood movie, that by definition isn't boring. Most movies are entertaining to some extent. Also, RP is not a strict manual but a guideline. It tells you things that will help you improve all aspects of your life, and you can take what you need and leave what you don't. RP also does recommend traveling and gaining new experiences and growing yourself so that you don't become boring, and that you have life stories to tell. However, some may con…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:27 AM
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Do you not care because you don't really care about men at all, or because it doesn't directly affect you as a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 06:31 AM
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I dunno, it was literally easier for me to make a million dollars than it was to get a date. I think there's some merit to the complaints although I'm obviously biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:53 AM
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What kind of effort is required on your part? Genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 01:01 AM
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What does age better mean? In terms of the SMV I do think men age better than women, but in terms of physical wellness I think women age better than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 09:08 PM
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All that makes sense and should not be shamed. However, for whatever reason, women usually only get with men who are at least in their socio-economic bracket or higher. They almost never go lower. An independent woman reduces her dating pool (by increasing her laundry list) the higher she climbs up the corporate ladder. Everyone including men innately know this which is why most will never admit it, but I'm pretty sure that's a big reason for the criticism of independent women. That and also the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:08 AM
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That's definitely true, but there are men out there who aren't losers in that regard and also are single. The definition of a loser differs from woman to woman. What if you're a millionaire and fit, but just shy and a virgin? What if you're broke and have no job but really good looking and can charm the pants of ladies? Women want someone better than them, and since women are making such huge strides relative to men, it makes sense that most men look like losers to them. Men aren't competing amo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:31 AM
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I can tell you from experience that 1 & 2 are more likely to friend zone than anything else. Just making her laugh won't get you anywhere, and making her feel comfortable is even worse. I've had girls and their friends tell me I'm hilarious and really funny, but they usually just end up going after my better looking friend who stays quiet and doesn't really do anything. Making her feel comfortable also isn't necessary since women want to feel excitement, and being comfortable is boring. 3 & 4 va…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 09:35 PM
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The reason why I didn't list those TV shows is because of my other point, which was that TV is not equatable to society. A child may not watch TV but they will interact with people, and through those people they will acquire their world view. TV is definitely a reflection of society but it isn't a necessary requirement to interact with society, whereas personal interaction is. Society is made up of parents, teachers, peers, etc. and through interacting with them do you learn more about the world…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 06:08 AM
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I don't think there is brainwashing, which is why I said I personally don't put much clout into the TV shows/media. I think it's a culture of trying to feel good and look good while ignoring painful truths. Society is made up of smaller sub groups which are people interacting with people. My point is that without television you interact with people and through them does your world view get built. Women help in this world view building, and like I mentioned before I don't believe they have malici…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 06:04 AM
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You listed a bunch of TV shows that support your argument which is fine, but this is a cherry picked list. There are many examples of TV shows that support the opposing view. Also, your argument seems to be entirely based on TV yet the question is posed against society and TV is not necessarily society. It's entirely possible for a child to not watch TV and come out with very positive views of women, or negative views of women. TV may help reinforce those views, but at the end of the day it isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 03:45 AM
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Similar thing happened to me a while back. She got together with a friend who we hung out with a lot. The difference between our stories though was that I immediately cut them both off and never contacted them again. Going forward, I'm always suspicious of girls who have a few "good" male friends who they always hang out with.
/r/TheRedPill23/11/19 11:56 PM
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I do believe that they will eventually settle for a beta, but won't be happy and will either eventually leave him or be unhappy in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:59 PM
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Personally, I won't do anything that violates my values and beliefs. That's probably why I can't even get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 07:44 PM
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Hard to say, there's so many factors to consider. I don't think the effect will be positive though. Since dating has become even more difficult for a majority of men now, a lot will lose drive and purpose in life since they won't have a family to care for and will just end up doing what they want or being depressed. Having that productivity taken out of society is not a good thing. Women will continue dating and delay anything serious until later, which may make dating harder for them as well as…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 07:35 PM
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It seems like it's become a lot more difficult for the bottom 80% of men, but for everyone else it's become easier. This is because women have always had an easier time dating and the increased abundance mentality has increased their standards past what most men can achieve. Average looking girls now get visibility into the top 20% of men and can get them for a date or two if those men are just pumping and dumping. Because these women have gotten a top 20% for a date or two, they will never go b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 06:41 PM
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Most women across the attractiveness spectrum go for a small set of particular traits they look for in a guy. I happen to have all the traits that almost all women find repulsive. Doesn't matter if they're hot or not, they wouldn't be into me. My observations and failures in the SMP make me pretty sure of this. I don't want casual sex so that's not what I found compelling in TRP. TRP is not the best way to view the world, but it's a hell of a lot better than TBP and is closer to the truth in my …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 08:56 PM
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I'm pretty sure I'm not aiming too high. Whatever I am is a turnoff to women, and that's just how it is. Statistically, not everyone finds a partner and I'm one of the unlucky ones to fall into that category. The world isn't fair, and all this talk about equality is pretty laughable. I used to be BP, and that got me confused and angry at myself. TRP provided me a lot of answers and allowed me to move on. Personality and behavior do play a part in STR. That's why pickup/game works in some situati…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 07:05 PM
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This is a nice thought, but in my experience totally incorrect. I think I have the basics down already (I'm active and I make decent money, just bought a condo in LA) and I can't get a date to save my life. You need to have a lot more than the basics to get a woman these days, and those who aren't genetically gifted on top of being fit and well off financially will still struggle. ​ TRP helps answer the question as to why this is happening, and instead of having blind hope it helps me accept the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 05:53 PM
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I don't think men as a whole think they're entitled to women. Men know how much work they have to put in to be at a dateable level, but that effort usually isn't known to women. I agree though that as of late, men's usefulness to women has gone down with the provider role taken away from them. Before, your average man could get a woman if he was a decent provider. Women's liberation has allowed them to not have to depend on men as much, and as a result they can be a lot more picky about who they…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:44 AM
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The reasoning for that is that it takes a lot of effort to earn that money, and beautiful women were born with their asset. Imagine working hard and hustling only to have another person come in and take half of your stuff. That's why I think a lot of people shame and berate gold diggers. On the other side though, you can think of it as gold diggers using their looks (which go down over time) to cash in at the very moment. I personally don't think it's a good idea, but in terms of which is more s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 03:47 AM
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I get where you're coming from with the good looking people being retarded thing, but that statement is a half truth at best. What happens is that good looking people can get by with a lot less, so those who have no ambition will not better themselves and hence seem retarded. However, good looking people with ambition will use their advantage to advance in life and become successful, and then piggyback on the success.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 03:42 AM
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I've had really bad experiences showing vulnerability to girlfriends, but super good experiences showing vulnerability to friends. I don't know why it's a negative for women when men show vulnerability, but it is and I've finally learned that lesson. However, I also learned that showing vulnerability to friends humanizes you in a way so you don't seem too uptight and perfect (like you're trying to hide things). It also opens the doors for them to be vulnerable to you as well, and allows for deep…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 02:26 AM
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I'm not too shocked at the attempts to shrug it off, since I'm pretty suspicious about the entire thing. What I will say is I don't know if he did it or not, and I think we really need to find out the truth. However, a lot of her actions and the actions of people around the accusation make me question it a lot. We have no concrete date or location. There's been an estimate of a time frame and a general location, but these are definitely way too vague. It's been a long time, so details like these…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/18 02:13 AM
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This is so true. I tried this in my last relationship and it ended exactly as you'd expect. Happy wife, happy life is one of the worst, most misleading piece of advice I've ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 07:40 PM
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But if you don't date, you still get older and closer and closer to the wall. Not dating a guy doesn't magically stop time. In fact, not dating a guy has a higher chance of you not getting married than dating the guy, so it's actually better to date a guy regardless if it "wastes" your time or not. It seems like the premise of your reason for men to pay is that you won't find a good guy as time goes on, but you still want to find a guy. People usually don't get paid for the things they have to o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 05:12 PM
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Agreed. The way I saw it is that women are investing their good looks and youth on a man who at the moment is a bit lower in SMV but will later be a lot higher. That's why it was important for women to choose men who had specific good traits and not shallow ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 05:03 AM
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I don't get why you refer to it as wasting time. If you're hanging out with someone or people you want to hang out with, is that also wasting time? It seems like you want people to pay you for your time, so if you hang out with friends or parents do you also require that they pay for your meals or entertainment?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 04:59 AM
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If I understand TRP correctly, they claim that women on average start to lose their looks and fertility around 30. Also, men only age like wine if they keep an active lifestyle and focus on their career to gain wealth. If men don't do those things, then they also age like milk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 02:52 AM
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Not impossible, but there are trade offs. Depending on location and industry, traveling often may not be the best idea if you really want to surge ahead in a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 03:43 AM
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Why would having a high n-count be something to be proud of? If it's something with no inherent value like you claim, then it doesn't make sense for it to be something to brag about. I wouldn't brag about going to so many dinners and movies with friends, it would just be something I do. Women should have sex freely whenever they feel like it, sex positivity is good for everyone. How is sex positivity good for everyone? I can tell you as an incel it has done nothing for me and has made me feel wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 11:01 PM
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I actually tried it out and after a couple years of no success it was obvious something was wrong about it. Also, the sub community of MGTOWs contains a lot of very toxic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 07:36 PM
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Apparently I need a lot more than what I have now. I'm 5'4 and I keep reasonably fit, and I have a 6 figure salary. I think I would need to have a seven figure salary and be a short Hulk to start having any luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 04:23 AM
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I agree with this. I think women should have sex with incels to make sure that they don't want them. Just to make sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:45 PM
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That's true, more responsibilities doesn't necessarily mean more loss of time but it means that you cannot leave your responsibilities without consequences. It's harder to take larger blocks of time off when something could blow up and you were on watch. The path to getting more responsibilities usually means hard work as well, which means less vacation time. You don't magically end up with a promotion by traveling all the time. The guy who doesn't travel and works instead will get the promotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 06:41 PM
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If you plan on never advancing in your career and never getting promoted then sure, but normally people do get promotions and hence get more responsibilities. This also applies when people start their own businesses, too. Honestly, I don't understand the argument against this. As people age, like I keep mentioning, they pile up more responsibilities. I'm more asking how you see people getting less as they age which would allow them to travel. To me, it just seems like a way for you to brag about…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 06:24 PM
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How do you see that working out? The only way you'd have less responsibilities is if you didn't get a job after you finished school and didn't have kids. Getting responsibilities as you age is how normal progression of life works. The only point where you have less is after retirement, but the period between that and childhood is basically filled with you working your ass off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 06:10 PM
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It's just how it works. As you age, you get more responsibilities. Kids, promotions at your job, your own business, etc. Usually people don't get less responsibilities as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 06:03 PM
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While that's true, I think that traveling is something that most people enjoy, old or young. The difference is, younger people don't have as many responsibilities so they can go travel more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 04:05 AM
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This is one thing that gets me. Women have basically decided to never interact with me, but I have to pay for their birth control and help subsidize their interactions and bad choices with men. At least let me use that money to make my life a little less miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 07:45 PM
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I'm very active and I have noticed this as well. In the gym, it's mostly guys but when there are women they are either with a guy who is huge and much stronger than they are, or they are there alone. The women who are with guys look ok, but it's obvious that they don't go to the gym often. The ones that do are with bodybuilders. Same when I go rock climbing, the women there are only with guys who are better climbers than they are. With climbing, you actually don't need as much physical strength.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 07:42 PM
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Very true. There are some very terrible people out there that have partners. Guys who beat and abuse their women can get girlfriend after girlfriend and other guys who would be kind and gentle are left to die alone. The same goes the other way for women, too. Looks matter a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:16 PM
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That's what I did, it helps you cope with being alone a bit better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 07:41 PM
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I would boulder with you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 07:32 PM
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I agree for the most part. I do believe that women want a man at least equal, but very much prefer someone who is better. Doesn't have to be in every way, that's not realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 06:04 PM
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That's a good point about it working like that because of the numbers. However, something that makes me doubt it is that when confronted with the option to go against those numbers, women usually don't take that option. They will not go for guys who are shorter, poorer, weaker, etc. I'm glad though that you don't care about that kind of stuff, but a lot of women I've met do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 05:17 AM
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I guess it depends on what you decide is part of gender norms and what isn't. Sweetness to me is mostly associated with femininity and not masculinity, but like I mentioned before I personally wouldn't count anything within those gender norms. To directly address your question though, it's entirely possible. As a guy though, and knowing many other guys, we don't usually look for someone that's more X than we are. We basically look for a threshold. For example, we do want sweet girls but not ones…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 05:15 AM
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agreed, but he has to make up for it in basically all other aspects of life
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 04:17 AM
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i would def say they are looking for attractive women, but i dont think they are necessarily looking for women more attractive than they are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 03:57 AM
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Even if it wasn't the case with you, it's the case with a large percentage of women. Height matters a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 01:20 AM
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I definitely think women want sex for their own sake, just with the top 20% of men. I also think their sex drives are lower than men's. There's women out there who also use sex as a manipulation tool, but there's probably a person out there that would actually make them enjoy sex. Probably someone in the 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:59 AM
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To be honest, LaCrosse is where it's at. Look how many women Archer gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:56 AM
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You bring up a good point, but I would ignore all the expectations of gender roles in this situation. This is because it boils down to "I like when women are better at being women than I am", and "I like men who are better at being men than I am", and that seems to be a given. Where it starts to get interesting is when we look at exactly what other posters have proposed, where it's up to the woman to decide what she thinks is better. Obviously when 2 people get together, there's going to be some…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:29 AM
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There's probably some men out there who look for women who are better than they are, but my observations would suggest that they are very rare. There don't seem to be a lot of men looking for women who are taller, older, richer, stronger, smarter, etc than they are. Even if there are more men looking for those things, I don't see them actually manifest, which could be explained by women wanting guys better than they are vs guys who aren't. When I go rock climbing, I always see the woman with a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 11:19 PM
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I think what he's saying is that it varies from woman to woman (one woman wants a guy with higher income, another might want a taller guy, another might want one thats better than she is at chess), but the key is that the woman is always looking for better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 11:09 PM
1

how do power bottoms generate the power?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 09:58 PM
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What's the reasoning behind that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 04:26 AM
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I dunno, I guess some of us aren't as smart as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 06:32 AM
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I used to be heavy BP and I had no luck. I tried RP and had no luck. None of the pills worked for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 07:44 PM
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One thing that doesn't add up is if she couldn't get Chads anymore, how did she get that older, richer boss Chad? That seems to defeat the entire purpose of AFBB if she can get AF even after she's hit the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 06:58 PM
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I agree. I did what TRP said and nothing really happened. I think they assume you have a good base and aren't entirely hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 07:22 AM
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It's indeed very hard to tell by exactly how much, but just going off of my observations my guess is that it highly impacts your chances. There are many other traits that can diminish your dating pool, but height seems to be a very big one. I'm not thinking about it as you might think. I acknowledge that it is dashing my chances by a lot just so I can manage expectations, but in my encounters I never mention height. It's just the acknowledgment of a very prevalent trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 12:04 AM
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might be, but seeing girls with only tall guys and hearing my female friends talk about their height requirements and how their friends also have height requirements make it really seem like height is important. also theres a few threads on ppd where the women here affirm that they too have height requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 11:17 PM
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unfortunately i dont need to tell myself that at all, it's affirmed to me quite frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 10:31 PM
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Looks matter a lot, especially height. If you're short, it's almost game over.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 07:19 AM
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I think I understand what RP means by AWALT, but it really comes down to a disagreement in numbers. RP claims they don't really mean AWALT, or that all women have the same nature and some are just better at controlling it than others. Whatever the case, RP claims that unicorns are hard to find and are not worth the case. I can say that I've met some women who were typical AWALT, but I've also met quite a few that were not AWALT. I'm not sure what the actual percentages are in the world, but I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 03:00 AM
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Definitely agree. A lot of people don't understand why incels or people who are not successful in the SMP can't just snap out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 02:56 AM
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I agree, and I think the points you make are very important and should be considered by other people. When I was a child, I had almost no positive experiences with girls. Since I was a nerd, I got bullied a lot and called ugly by girls so it never occurred to me that I was worthy of having a partner since I was dirt. College was better in that I wasn't bullied, but I was just ignored and basically invisible. Watching girls that you hang out with go for your other friends sucks. It's very, very h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 07:11 AM
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i have the 6 pack and the 6 figure income and im still incel so those arent the only standards that are required
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 09:55 PM
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Honestly I can't wait until 30. I'm told I'll receive incredible powers, which I will only use for good of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 10:17 AM
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Ugly duckling nerds usually stay that way and don't magically become hot after 25+. I speak from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:46 PM
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rp takes the mentality that most women are like that and will leave when weakness is shown
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 09:58 PM
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sorry i misread. so the man and woman pay for themselves on the first date, and afterwards they workout who pays with what later on?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 09:10 PM
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thats the problem though what if there is no second date? or if the person doesnt agree with your invisible contract? theres no way to enforce it and its easily exploitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:59 PM
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i agree with give and take, but it is hard to enforce that with strangers without seeming greedy. so on a first date if a guy pays how can either party already know how the girl can reciprocate?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:51 PM
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my friend always wants the guy to pay. she is dating a broke guy who is paying for her while she has a steady job. according to you, she should be paying for him it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:43 PM
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so then to you this isnt a gender issue, right? is your view that whoever makes more should pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:41 PM
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How do you know that if he doesn't pay, he's likely to be as you described? I'm not sure I understand why in an age of women being able to support themselves, it's bad that men don't want to be used for their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 06:47 PM
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Shouldn't women then also pay for men sometimes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 06:45 PM
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face & ass age: 28 ethnicity: chinese region: los angeles pill: none ses: middle class
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 06:28 AM
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I love that clip and I mentioned his point, but was looked at like I was talking crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 05:40 AM
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That's what I was thinking, now that women can make their own money there can be more concentration on other attributes. I was told though that I would have a hard time finding a girl that would be ok with that, and also I would be missing out on opportunities. I guess its just a difference in worldview, although they are all in relationships and I'm an incel which is why I was thinking they could be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 05:38 AM
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Maybe this is their subtle way of telling me I'm unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 05:31 AM
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They're good guys, so I guess they put it on themselves to support and be good people. I make more than any of my friends though, so it might look bad that I'm talking about not paying for someone else when they make less and are doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 02:51 AM
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Mostly guys, except the 1 female friend. The guys all pay for everything/support their wives/gfs. The female friend is dating someone who pays for everything, even though he's broke and she has a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 02:10 AM
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What specifically do you think men have to offer that women can't? Would you say, as a woman, hanging out with men provides a different experience than hanging out with women? And if so, is it a positive experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 01:23 AM
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I do have an answer and already told my friends what I thought, but was wondering what PPD thought as well. I like seeing the discussions here and wanted to start one around this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:03 PM
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They're great friends, we just don't agree on all things. I told them that women getting periods wasn't my fault and I didn't see why I had to pay for something I had no choice in, and they just laughed it off and told me to be more open minded or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:53 PM
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What a cynical and depressing statement. A father for her children? A companion? Sex? That's assuming she wants kids. She can get companionship from other females, and as for sex I guess she can just do a bunch of one night stands or take care of herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:51 PM
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For the first point I told them that on the other side the man doesn't know the woman either, and so he's technically in danger too. They said that men are stronger and are more likely to hurt women. Second point I told them that men are expected to be the person to ask them out, so it's setup to have the guy pay anyways. They didn't disagree. i don't think most women believe a man must pay, every time, or he's worthless; i think the arguments your friends are making are mostly outside the norm.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:49 PM
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You can have a deep human connection with a woman, that isn't exclusive to men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:35 PM
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My friend claims that women don't want sex that much from men, so providing sex isn't the biggest thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:28 PM
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Sorry if I wasn't clear. I mean to ask why would a woman associate or date a man if he doesn't pay for things? I did mention the things you just said (minus the sex) and my friend said women can get that stuff from other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:24 PM
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What's considered exotic? Is it nationality, or ethnicity? I'm Asian and living in LA, and have had 0 luck. Also, when I was abroad, 0 luck there too so I'm not sure what qualifies as exotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 09:48 PM
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I tried both and both didn't work so I'm not affiliated to either. Just enjoy discussion and debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 10:36 PM
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From what I've seen, it is. We see male anger get shamed, but female anger is viewed as justified, which in turn is used to shame men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 08:22 PM
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It's my permanent home. Been here so long I've actually setup camp and it's not too shabby once you get used to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 07:47 AM
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I imagine some might, but it probably isn't the same as the anger phase for TRPers. I think many women know for the most part what's expected of them in the SMP, and at least in the US there's a culture of male bashing so they probably think the worst of men anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 07:45 AM
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I don't understand it either. To me it looks like an average person car shopping and they can only afford a camry or a civic. I'm a poor person and I can't even afford a shitty used car, and I'm watching them complain about having to buy a camry or a civic. Seems like they are advantaged to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 07:39 AM
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I think it's because it's a lot more obvious if a woman is going for someone because of their money vs if they're going for someone because of their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 08:24 PM
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If I understand trps hypergamy definition it doesn't include the physical traits unique to each sex. It includes possible traits that both men and women can have, and the male has to be superior in the ones she cares about
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 09:49 PM
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Agreed. As humans we are able to control our primal urges and desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 09:43 PM
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That's a good point if you assume that men and women are the same. If they aren't, then it's perfectly valid to believe something may exist in one sex and not the other, such as hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 06:19 PM
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If I understand TRP's version of hypergamy, it doesn't mean just more attractive. It means superior in ways a woman cares about. So for one woman maybe she cares that a guy is stronger and richer than she is, and another may care that a guy is better than her at baseball.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 05:33 PM
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Savage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 08:51 AM
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I think when TRP refers to trading up and hypergamy, it means trading up relative to the other person. So for it to be hypergamy for men, they would have to find a woman who is superior to them, not a woman who is necessarily (but can be) superior to the previous woman. TRP will also state that women will never date down, so men can never act on hypergamy even if they have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 08:45 AM
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If the survey was true I would be really popular. Quite the opposite though, so I'm more inclined to believe the survey is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 08:28 AM
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If they view attractiveness differently though, would it be a stretch to say that may affect the rates at which they find each other attractive? For example, height is a very big factor in what women find attractive. However, men don't put as much emphasis on height. There must be another attribute that will make up for that discrepancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 02:59 AM
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Why wouldn't most women have sex with Chad? Even if most men would love to have sex with Stacy, would they ever be in a position to?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 02:37 AM
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In those carousels, would you say the rate at which both men and women hookup are the same? If an average/below average woman can get sex with Chad, can an average/below average man get sex with Stacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 02:34 AM
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Even if dating sites don't work the same way as real life, if the attraction is the same then those stats should've said otherwise. It seems odd to me then that an assumption that men and women would find each other equally attractive is true, yet not seeing the whole person seems to affect the way men and women rate attractiveness. At least to me, it would seem men and women don't find each other attractive in the same ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 02:31 AM
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How would the OkCupid study of 80% of men are unattractive, the 1.2% of male incel vs 0.3 of female incel, and social experiments showing differences in willingness to sleep with strangers factor into your beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 02:03 AM
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If the average man can get sex as much as your average woman, can we assume that women and men find each other attractive at similar rates? In other words, men and women are equally picky?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 01:31 AM
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What kind of man and woman would you say have access to these carousels? Average? Below average? And what is the carousel to you? Is it being able to get laid at all, or the ability to get laid whenever?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 01:09 AM
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So you would say that there are roughly equal amounts of both men and women having a bunch of casual sex? Also, that after exiting the carousel, both have roughly equally changed SMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 12:57 AM
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The only way for those two to be the same is if men and women had equal access to their respective carousels, and the effect of entering and exiting those carousels is also the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 12:32 AM
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Well most of the men I've seen with girlfriends here have somethings in common: tall, successful, strong, aggressive guys. The girlfriends usually differ a lot in physical appearance. Also, there's a lot of different porn out there featuring varying types of bodies for women. I don't see too much deviation for that in women's preferences. Have never seen a woman go for short skinny guys with small dongers. Have also never seen women go for shy awkward guys, but have seen the opposite many times.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:06 PM
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I never feel creepy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 09:53 AM
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As a level 2 dwarf cleric I guess I'm shit out of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 09:32 AM
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I've only ever been to anime cons, but my experience adds up with what you're saying. Maybe I should try another con...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 09:28 AM
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Compared to some alternatives it is. If you're shown no attention at all or only disgust in your entire lifetime, being shown positive attention 2-3 times a year doesn't seem so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 03:15 AM
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Well let's just put it this way. If you're in the desert without water, 2-3 drops is a lot. It's definitely better than none.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 03:10 AM
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Now I can say I'm in the 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 02:32 AM
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Don't worry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 02:29 AM
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Because it's my job. I'm hentaipolice. It's tough but someone's gotta do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 02:16 AM
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I can tell from their body language when I'm talking about hentai.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 01:57 AM
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I don't want to argue semantics, but I think you are. Even if you're not, the point I was trying to make is that I don't think anyone is going to convince incels that they should be less angry because women's lives aren't perfect. The reason for this is because even if women's lives aren't perfect, on average it's still way better than an incel's life and also women are the direct cause of the incel's problem which kind of rubs salt in their wounds. This is a topic that gets a lot of incels emot…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 01:56 AM
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It would seem that Chad is a bigger threat to men than Stacy is to women unless women don't want sex from Chad at all. Am I missing something?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 01:50 AM
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If the goal of this post was to show incels that women don't have perfect lives, then sadly I don't think this post has achieved that goal. It's true that even those in privilege still have problems, (dubbed first world problems), but to those living in the third world it looks like a bunch of rich people complaining. For the men who know they will be alone for their entire lives, watching women (the ones who have rejected them and are sometimes disgusted by them) complain about their dating liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 01:28 AM
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That's a really good point. But if I understand it correctly, Chad gets in the way of sex AND commitment whereas Stacy only gets in the way of commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 01:12 AM
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Exactly. That's why I'm very confused as to why the women there are uncomfortable when I'm around them. I'm only there for their safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 01:09 AM
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Sounds like a pretty sweet deal for the girl. I'm jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 01:04 AM
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As it should. I'm surprised that women don't realize how much easier they have it relative to most men. How much easier they have it and if its even easy is another thing, but all I know is that women definitely don't have it as hard as they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:58 AM
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As far as I'm concerned I should be able to go as whatever I want and not be judged by anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:54 AM
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I don't think that's right. Just because certain women appeal to certain demographics doesn't mean she ONLY appeals to those demographics. It just means she has an even higher chance in that demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:48 AM
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I go to those every year. It's a really nice way to get blue balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:45 AM
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So would you say those kinds of girls go for the top "nerd" guys? Would they be considered Chads/alphas of the nerd group?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:44 AM
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I would consider repulsed a word to describe how women see nerds and geeks. However, it's not the same for how men view women. What I'm saying is that men don't care if you're a nerd or not for the most part. In the best case it will add points, and in the worst case it might subtract a few, but it probably won't take you out of the dating pool entirely given you've met the physical attractiveness threshold. So far in my life I've never seen a guy who rejected a girl because she was nerdy/geeky,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:43 AM
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I know some guys such as myself who would disagree. If we're talking about overall attractiveness then yes, it can add points because for some guys, mutual interests are a big factor. Like I said before, men have much more varied tastes. Women might be turned off by nerds/geeks, but men aren't necessarily turned off by nerdy/geeky women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:30 AM
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For sure, but at the end of the day who do they end up dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:22 AM
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Do you think they go after Chads who aren't in nerdy social circles, or would they go after the top nerd?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:13 AM
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Because men's preferences are usually more varied, they're more likely to notice women than women are to notice men. I really do believe that a lot of men are invisible to women, and that only a subset of very unfortunate women are invisible to men. That being said I believe that female incels definitely do exist, but pale in comparison to the number of male incels. Depending on the nerd girl she could be invisible to most men. If she's truly ugly and/or disfigured then yes, but if she's at leas…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:11 AM
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I'm sure there are guys who fawn over Stacy types, but in my experience more women would fawn over a Chad than men would fawn over a Stacy (your definition of Stacy). From what I've seen women share sexual preferences more than men, so defining what a Stacy is relative to Chad is a bit more difficult. Another problem with this equivalence is that most women will have access to Chad sexually in one form or another, whereas most guys won't have sexual access to Stacy in any form at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 11:48 PM
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I guess it depends on how you look at it. It seems to me that lying produces the angry TRP guys that TBP seems to hate since they feel like they wasted a bunch of time. On the other hand, if you tell them the truth, it depends on the guy. Some will give up, and some will try to become better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 08:44 PM
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As a low value man, I see a lot of shitting on people such as myself from both sides. I wouldn't know which side does it more, but to me it's hard to tell so I'm assuming both do it somewhat equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 08:28 PM
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For me a high n-count depends on how old she is relative to the n-count, but I think 10+ is high. Any sexual act adds to it (kissing doesn't, but a bj would). I'm not sure what happens to a woman after every partner, but I would assume it gives a greater chance for her to be unsatisfied by sexual stuff given her growing experience. I have an aversion to high n-count because my physical attributes are basically below average all around and average at best, so chances are she'll think a lot less o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 02:32 AM
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I was TRP for a while but since coming here I guess I turned purple with a leaning towards TRP. Personally I don't want to ally too much with one pill, I just want the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 03:35 AM
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I think what TRP means by Chad is that Chad does not exist as a singular person, but is used to describe a group of men who share similar characteristics. So the way I understand it is there are many instances of Chad, but there isn't a single person who is deemed Chad. To make it clearer, Chad is used as a plural such as "Asian people". There isn't just one instance of "Asian people", there are many.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 04:55 AM
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It allows the guy to accept that he'll be alone so he can use that time and energy on enjoying other things in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 05:12 AM
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I think what OP is saying is that men have a variety of things that they find attractive whereas women have a lot less. Women, for the most part, like the same kind of guy whereas men are a lot more diverse in their tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:21 AM
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My hunch is that a lot of MGTOW is made up of the guys who never exited the anger phase or even doubled down on it. I'm not saying their anger isn't justified (I was in the anger phase as well, so I get it), but it does make for a very unfriendly community that I personally didn't take a liking to and who didn't take a liking to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:06 AM
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I don't understand how I'm being miserable and hateful. If you could point it out to me, I'd be grateful. From what I've seen, a lot of the MGTOW community is pretty hateful towards women and blame them for a lot of their problems. Of course I've seen MGTOW who aren't like that, but a vast majority of people I've seen claiming to be MGTOW were very disrespectful to women and others who didn't agree with their line of reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:41 AM
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I thought I was MGTOW at some point and joined a MGTOW forum. Those were some of the most miserable and hateful people I've ever seen on the net, and I got banned since I wasn't manly enough and didn't hate women enough. Honestly, they aren't doing themselves any favors by acting like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 03:03 AM
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Personally I think it all comes down to a lack of respect for what men do, what they go through, and the male experience in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 02:52 AM
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It's impossible for me (28, single, Los Angeles). It seems easier for my really tall friends/co workers though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:57 PM
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To me I don't hate TRP at all. It prompted me to do a lot of things to improve my life and as a result I make more money and I'm in the best shape of my life. Even though it didn't help me in the relationship/dating market, it improved every other aspect of my life. It also gave me knowledge about women so I don't get taken advantage of by the bad ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:06 PM
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Thanks for pointing out the gender/age thing. I dunno why but I assumed since it was a questionnaire that info would already be provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:16 AM
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what is your sex and age? what is your partner's sex and age? what are some notable physical attributes of your partner? what are some of your notable physical attributes? what is the income bracket and education level of your partner? what is your income bracket and education level? what are the top 3 things you like about your partner? which do you value more: freedom or security, and why? which do you value more: being honest or being polite, and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 01:56 AM
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I think I have a decent understanding of feminism, but it's hard to prove because they are so fractured that any sort of definition of their views you give, there will be another feminist that claims you're wrong and know nothing about feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 09:01 PM
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I definitely agree with that, but sadly attraction can't be convinced or negotiated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 08:44 PM
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Also, I think reading the article will show you that this issue is not as simple as you think, and can get very complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 08:40 PM
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That's covered in the formal definition which I also agree with. I'm glad that you prompted me to look up the definition because that Wikipedia article I'm reading is really enlightening. If you look at the "Criticisms" section, they basically outline exactly what we're arguing about. The article explains things pretty well, so if I'm not explaining my position correctly I think the Wikipedia article might do a better job of it. It seems like feminists are going for the substantive version of eq…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 08:37 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_opportunity Is that your definition? If so, it still is complicated. If using that definition, there's formal and substantive equality of opportunity. Which do you argue for? My definition falls under formal, so I'm not sure why you say mine is non-standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 08:24 PM
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Well I hope you're right, but in my experience short girls still go for tall guys and some even want guys who are way taller than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 08:05 PM
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What is your definition of equality of opportunity? What's a scenario in where that is achieved? I have clearly laid out my definition, but I haven't seen a very clear definition of yours. You keep trying to paint me in a certain brush for some reason and claiming you have already made a point when you have not. All you have done is continuously trying to point me out as a bad guy so you can disregard anything I say. I say this again: I am not trying to justify this to protect any privileges. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 08:03 PM
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If someone wanted to start a family though, girls would seem pretty important. It's a bit difficult to get past that mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 07:55 PM
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You haven't addressed any of the points I have made regarding equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome. Please stay on topic and stop trying to change it. Why do you feel that the social privilege given to straight cis white dudes is some innate thing that can never go away, and that we shouldn't try to remove? Incidentally: are you a straight cis white dude? Are you "only" three out of four? Again, you are setting up a strawman and are not even listening to anything I am saying. It seems …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 07:42 PM
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That seems reasonable to me, but do you think it would be reasonable to say he can at least find a woman who loves him some day? Assuming he listens to the advice given by bonerdude420.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 09:21 AM
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So doing all those things to the absolute fullest will guarantee success with women, regardless of any shortcomings a guy might have?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 08:57 AM
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What if you've done all that and still have no luck?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 08:49 AM
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No, I'm saying I don't know if people call it "The Wall" as well. Men definitely have their own version of it. There's no need for any hostility, I'm not sure what I've done to deserve it. Maybe people call it "The Wall" for both men and women, I wasn't aware of that. I've only seen "The Wall" show up in discussions of how women age. Personally I believe men have their own version. I believe men also age and lose attractiveness, but I don't know if it's called "The Wall" as well, like it is for …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 08:40 AM
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Yeah, just women. As far as I know, "The Wall" is usually mentioned in the context of women. I'm not sure if the male counterpart is also called "The Wall", but men have their own version.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 08:29 AM
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At least on both sides, I really don't like all the personal attacks I'm seeing. They do nothing but breed more hatred and don't help anyone get closer to the truth or any solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 06:24 AM
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Personally, I see it as a sliding scale customized for each woman. Some women who are blessed with genetics can have environmental factors that help delay or quicken it. Vice versa as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 06:18 AM
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That's true, but even the short ones wanted tall guys. I think there were only a handful that were ok with short regardless of their own height.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 05:49 AM
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The problem is that a lot of girls want guys who are really tall. Those 2 height threads created within the past day are proof of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 01:30 AM
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Doesn't seem like he gave up by default though, because that would imply he never tried. He spent years (maybe a decade) if I'm correct, with no results.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 01:28 AM
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I hope you're right, but looking at the answers in this thread helps prove that I really am since I'm so short. My point was that everyone lives in a separate reality. Some realities are brutal, and some are just rainbows and unicorns. Should people such as myself kill themselves? I personally don't think so, but we must accept the fact that our lives will not be very happy. We can make the best of what we've got though, and that's all that we can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 12:33 AM
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It's just reality. Your reality is that you have someone who loves you. My reality is I have no one who will love me. Life is unfair, and that's just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:48 PM
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Please do not make ad hominems against me. I have given you respect and I expect the same. This is another problem I have with feminists; they are very quick to take the moral high ground and insult anyone who doesn't agree with them. You have been putting words in my mouth and fighting against a strawman. You have not been reading what I have been saying, and have just been assuming things and jumping to conclusions. Please point out where I am trying to defend any of my privileges, and point o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:53 PM
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I dunno, those height threads were kinda demoralizing for a short guy. Seems like it at least is tied largely with looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 09:44 PM
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You're putting words in my mouth. I even started this argument saying not everyone is equal. It is unjust, but trying to correct this might be equally unjust as well. You claim this is not complicated but it is; in fact is it very, very complicated, and since feminists think the solution is easy they think they are on morally high ground. There definitely is still discrimination and there always will be. Depending on the culture of a company, the people hiring, the current social climate, there …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 09:30 PM
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Equality of opportunity has already been achieved. The lobbying to get more women into STEM should stop then. Women are free to go into those fields if they want, but if they choose not to then don't try to get them to do it. I still see a lot of feminists saying stuff like "we still don't have 50% of women in X". That's equality of outcome, and it's not just a "manosphere meme".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 09:18 PM
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I don't understand why it's hard to accept that everyone isn't equal. Some people are taller, some people are stronger, some people are smarter, etc. I think you're talking about human rights, and in that case equality of opportunity should be an accepted right for everyone. The problem is, feminism is all about equality of outcome and not opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 09:06 PM
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Those aren't really comparable. You can lose fat, but you can't gain anymore inches. Also, when guys are talking about fat girls they are usually talking about obese. Chubby is 50/50, some guys care some guys don't. Women won't date obese guys either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:57 PM
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The problem is everyone is not equal, and people's experiences are not equally valid. The world is unfair, and assuming people are equal or even worse, trying to make them equal is on morally shaky ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:50 PM
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One of the biggest problems I have is that the movement is so fractured (just as you experienced) that there are a lot of instances of "no true Scotsman" in that movement. It makes it very difficult to take any of them seriously, or even discuss issues. Feminism to me seems very hypocritical, dishonest, and ignorant. Most say they want equality, but what they really want is more rights and less responsibility. Many women still want/expect men to pay for everything even though they make their own…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:41 PM
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Yeah, I'm an inch shorter than you are and this thread kinda ruined my day or prospect on life or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:19 PM
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Finding a woman who is ok with (and even enjoys) dating a shorter guy is only a few magnitudes more than winning the lottery. Even if women like that are out there, the odds are so low that you can't really count on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:13 PM
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They were mostly good guys though, and I thought that was a requirement for women. Turns out it's not, and it's basically just looks as you point out. They just happened to be good, but even if they were pure evil there wouldn't have been a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 10:50 AM
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I lie. I'm an incel but I can't really let anyone know so I just have to fudge the numbers a bit. I lie about it because I know I will be treated very negatively if anyone knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 09:42 AM
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From what I've seen, most don't make too much of an effort. There are a few like myself who have tried, and still came up with nothing. The most notable example I can think of is someone called trail22 or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 09:40 AM
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i. Yes, to some extent. I used to be a feminist and bought into the equality stuff, "be yourself" bullshit, disney movies, and all that feel good crap. ii. Embarrassing, but probably around 22. That's what I first started getting suspicious about my beliefs, and by 24 I was no longer a feminist and had stumbled upon TRP by chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 09:34 AM
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That's true, but if you're a woman and not used to rejection it might hit you hard. Especially if you think you're hot shit, and these days women get so much validation that even the fat women think they are models.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:47 AM
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I think they bring a sort of feminine energy and playfulness that men can't really emulate without looking super weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:16 AM
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I half agree, but I think getting rejected for a woman might be even worse for them since it's actually easier for them in the dating scene. People expect guys to get rejected, they don't really expect women to get rejected as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:14 AM
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I don't think so, I was just answering his hypothetical. Basically saying I'd want out of the game entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 08:22 AM
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I'd chose to be asexual. It's already impossible for me to have a romantic relationship with a woman, so wanting something that I can never have can get me pretty down sometimes. It would be something huge I wouldn't have to worry about, and could concentrate on other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 07:36 AM
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Definitely bought into that when I first stumbled on it. After 2 years of self improvement I found my luck with women didn't change at all. They act as if TRP is the holy grail to get women and it has a 100% success rate, but it really doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 04:28 AM
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Do you mean that you've seen shorter woman go for even shorter men? I'm glad you're living it and the guys you date are living it, but I have never seen it in my life outside of Japan. I've been to many places in Europe as well, Canada, Mexico, Puerto Rico, and China. Japan is the only place I saw it happen, and even then it was pretty uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 02:36 AM
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I've seen this as well. The shorter the woman, the taller she wants her partners to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 01:02 AM
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Would you date a short guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 12:40 AM
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What height is considered short to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 12:35 AM
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Actually I don't see a lot of short men with women. The only place I saw it was when I visited Japan, but I haven't seen it in the US. I'm short and I can tell you for a fact that it is a death sentence in terms of dating. I've worked on things under my control and even then nothing has changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 10:50 PM
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What kind of porn then do women consume? It seems to me they would basically have to consume the same variety or more to make a case that the variety of their preferences are the same as mens. If there's a lot going on there, I'd like to get insight into what exactly is going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 07:34 AM
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How do you "bone" such women then? What are the shared traits that the men who "bone" these women have?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:24 AM
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In my experience women usually go for a very specific range of physical traits, and deviation from those traits is a rarity. Someone mentioned it before, but if you look at porn for men you will find so much variety it's even hard to believe sometimes. When you look at porn for women, the variety is not even comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:22 AM
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For some guys I bet it is a turn off, but for pretty specific reasons. I think deep down, most guys know that women usually date guys who are better than they are. If you are dumber than she is, she probably will at some point leave you. Men don't know how to react to this so they take it out on the girl for being smarter than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:15 AM
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I'm exactly what you would call a TRP washout, but I don't think most vocal incels are that. In fact, most incels probably never even consider trying TRP. I don't know for sure, but that's my guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 04:50 AM
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At most you might be half right, but it seems like a more complicated issue. It can seem like the women of those groups certainly want them to die out by refusing to reproduce with them as if they all agreed on it, and the men of those groups enjoy seeing the "competition" get killed off. However, I don't think they consciously hate them or even know why they are repulsed by them. They are just acting on their instincts and feelings, as usual without much thought put into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 08:49 AM
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I haven't totally given up, but I've realized that the odds are against me and my time could be better spent doing other things. Like another poster, I am ethnic, 5'4 and went from 120lb to 135lb. I get a lot of compliments from other guys about my physique, but I look very, very young (I'm 28 but get mistaken for a teenager and even get carded for R rated movies sometimes). I bought into TRP and did a lot of stuff they said would work, but realized after a few years that it's almost impossible …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 07:37 PM
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In my opinion, in the western world women aren't held accountable for a lot more than just their dating choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 06:51 PM
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Sounds like advice from an older time. It seemed to work out well for society in general, at the expense of the possibility of greater happiness of the individuals. It's possible to get both, but I wouldn't change that advice at all. Too many women think they can and will get both, and it is making both men and women unhappy due to inflated expectations. It's about priorities, and you can prioritize the advice and hope for the excitement and tingles. You can also think about it from a genetic/ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 05:50 PM
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Why would you say he felt entitled to vent his rage? How is it any different from any other action he would take? When he eats, does he feel entitled to eat? I'm curious as to what constitutes entitlement in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 05:34 PM
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Probably being myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/16 06:31 AM
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no support, just shaming. i try not to talk about it and give vague answers when asked about it. ive had some friends ask before but anything other than a strong no makes people think you are one, and they are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 02:46 AM
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I agree with that, in addition to the fact that men can create value so even an incel man could potentially break out of it, whereas an incel woman wouldn't be able to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 07:55 PM
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I've read TRP for years and what I can say for sure is that they believe that the average man has it a lot tougher in terms of the SMP than the average woman, assuming both are relatively young. I don't have any specific rating in mind for both parties, but my personal belief is that your average man has around the same sexual encounter rate as a fat girl. Not obese, but a girl that is a few tens of pounds over weight and not overly ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 06:48 PM
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The difference lies in the numbers. Statistically, a male 5 is the average. So your average guy will have as much sex as a female 2, who is statistically not average (lower end) and more rare than an average male or female. I'm not saying I agree that a male 5 is going to have the same rates of incel as a female 2, but I think the point he's trying to make is that it's so much more common for guys that it's almost statistically irrelevant when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 06:12 PM
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Honestly I feel a little skeptical and suspicious, but I definitely believe they can be lonely. In my experience, it takes a lot for a woman to actually be lonely and it's very easy for a man to be lonely. If they are indeed lonely, then I empathize with them. Being lonely is not fun and it's a slow, painful death.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 07:14 PM
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I do hope that I'm wrong and you're right, but so far my experience is that women do judge largely on looks in addition to other factors. Women these days seem to have insanely high standards. Either that or I'm really ugly, which is entirely possible. My taller friends seem to get a lot of attention while I get none, so that's what I'm going off of.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 07:48 PM
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I think just being a skinny girl works, from what I've seen most guys (including myself) don't have race as a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 05:20 PM
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Almost every woman I know has a height cut off, and if you look on online dating sites you'll see them all the time. I actually don't know if men have something similar in their dating profiles so you'd have to tell me. From what I've seen they don't, but I don't date men so I'm not as knowledgeable on that subject. It's interesting to claim that society standards are different from individual ones, and I hadn't given that much thought. My first reaction to that is that it would make sense if so…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 05:19 PM
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I'm just talking from my experience. I haven't met a single guy who had some standard like "I only date girls with C cup and up". They might have had preferences, but no deal breakers when it came to physical appearance other than no fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:52 AM
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I was going to bring that point up, actually. Look at who is running the beauty industry; it isn't straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:51 AM
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Another thing to keep in mind is that men's prime only comes if the man has been smart and worked on his career to build wealth and also has kept in shape by going to the gym. He still has to work for it. Women's prime is given to them by genetic lottery, but lucky for them more than 50% of them will win it. I think only the bottom 20% of women will not be able to benefit from their prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:39 AM
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Sorry, I was a bit unclear. My point was that the men in the society don't really care outside of no fatties, so the only ones left are the women. They impose that pressure on each other outside of the men's no fatties thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:36 AM
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How so? I definitely believe that the top 10% of men have their pick so they can trade up if they wanted, but I find it very hard to believe that your average man has that same kind of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:34 AM
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I agree with that. I'm still not sure what you're trying to imply with that though. Are you saying that the average man does have the power since the male wall extends longer than the female one?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:30 AM
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In my experience guys aren't very critical of women's appearance. Most have a "no fatties" rule but outside of that, they don't seem to care about much else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:24 AM
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There's some men out there that have the power to do that, but I don't think your average guy has what it takes to be able to keep trading up wives every time one of them hits the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:21 AM
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I think bringing up aging is very important, since what he says only applies to younger people. In the later ages, it seems that the SM is kinder to men. I see it as fair, since one is an early bloomer and the other is a late bloomer. Each has their time to shine, just not as the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 03:41 AM
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Well to be honest most research is basically something like: we took x samples, and found y to correlate with it. Not all these kinds of studies (especially studies to do with human behavior) have iron clad correlations from one trait to another, or one trait causing some sort of behavior. As for most of TRP's theories, like I mentioned above, those were mostly formed from trends observed by many men. I can't say if they truly believe them at face value, but from what I understand they use extre…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 03:35 AM
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I agree with everything you've said. I'm a 5'6 Asian male and dating is the hardest thing I've ever done in my entire life. I'm accomplished in all other parts of my life except that area. I've found that a successful dating life is the only part in life that can't be accomplished through hard work and dedication. It's the genetic lottery and if you lose, tough luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 03:18 AM
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I think women love weak males. They will never be attracted to them sexually, but weak males provide women with resources for free and can be manipulated and controlled pretty easily. Every man has his use.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 06:15 PM
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Depends on the belief. If it's something you don't concentrate on in your life, then you don't need evidence. I believe aliens exist and I have no evidence, but I don't base my life around anything that has to do with aliens. However, if I believed that all people are untrustworthy I would probably need evidence since it impacts my everyday life and can have huge consequences. But in the face of no evidence, you can still use common sense and some logic to make an educated guess which is better …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 06:07 PM
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I definitely believe there is some truth to this, since I've experienced it myself. I've gone so far into the negative that I'm probably beyond redemption, and it's odd because even though I am aware of this I can't get past it. You didn't mention it here (or maybe I can't read) but in the other post you said the lack of confidence in dating is displaced somewhere else, and I've noticed this is true too. For example, most "nice guys" are confident that they are really good people which is why th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 07:32 AM
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I think some incels are destined to be doomed, but some of it has to do with what you just said. If an incel is unlucky enough to get weird parents that raise them a lot differently than their peers, the children are quickly outcast and are kept out of having the experience of relationships and sex because they were never taught to be normal. It is really hard to undo all of that especially in adulthood, so it's a compounding effect that further cripples the incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 03:15 AM
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In my experience it's a huge turn off for women. Just this last Friday I was talking to a girl in my muay thai class and she noted that I always wear data themed t-shirts (I'm a software engineer so I get them for free sometimes). She asked if I was a data analyst or if I work with data and I told her no, and her immediate response was that I couldn't be that boring. That was just the most recent experience I've had with nerdiness being a turn off. I'm sure everyone here knows that nerds in scho…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 06:31 AM
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I wouldn't say that, but they definitely bought into a certain narrative. I'd say after they bought into TRP they started observing and thinking more since they realized they were being lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 05:04 AM
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I think it's because the media and pop culture is the exact opposite of what TRP advocates, and in fact many of TRPs members bought into the media themselves only to find out everything they heard from the media was wrong. I was one of those people, so this is just my perspective. I also think that women consume more media than men, so it doesn't surprise me that most media would cater to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 04:45 AM
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I dunno, I've been hanging out with some girls lately and while they seem to be nice people they fit the description. Most of them would be considered losers if they were guys, but they all get tons of male attention and are not single. On the other hand, I am progressing in my career and making a lot of money. I workout and am active everyday and I can't get a date to save my life. Really does seem like they have it easier. Everyone keeps telling me the sky is purple but when I look up all I se…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 04:30 AM
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To be honest women don't have to tell us, most incels can see what women really think through their actions. I don't think a lot of women empathize with incels; I've seen the opposite and what TRP says in this department is true. They disgust women to a whole other level that it's really surprising. In my experience, incels aren't even treated as human beings by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:55 AM
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I'm Asian and I was into TRP for years until I found out it only really works for white guys. I followed a lot of their teachings and applied them in my life but nothing improved in my encounters with the opposite sex. TRP doesn't give advice to minorities because they understand that women just don't find non-whites as attractive, and they aren't in the business of making you feel good. They are in the business of what works, and what works is being tall and white. I don't blame TRP for having …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 05:31 AM
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You can't stop it completely, but I try to keep myself busy with a ton of hobbies (both physical and mental) and I work on a side project with some friends. Some days are better than others. I'm not FA though and have plenty of friends to hang out with on the weekends. That helps a bunch as well. I can't imagine what I would do if I was FA.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 05:21 AM
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What's your ethnicity and height?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 03:59 AM
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I've definitely had that talk a few times before I found TRP. Nothing much to say other than I don't take any advice from women about women anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 03:48 AM
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If that were true I'd have no problems getting a date. My experience tells me the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 05:53 AM
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I don't think women like young looking men. I look like a teenager, and haven't had success with women my age. Those don't even seem like options if that was the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 07:44 AM
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It's nice to see a woman who really does have empathy and is smart enough to seek out answers instead of jumping to conclusions. Many women don't care to understand the thought process of men, so it's nice to know there's a few out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 04:47 AM
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I've never measured myself but I don't have a micro penis. The thing is, I've never seen a woman want a small penis but I see women talking about huge dongers all the time. There must be some reason for that, and I believe it is because women love huge dongers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:24 AM
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I thought I did get that point, and I totally agree with what you just said. I mentioned before that women usually won't just look at one trait, like height, and just go off of that. I don't think there are many women that are like that, and the ones that are that way are very silly. Instead, women look for multiple traits and the combination of those traits naturally allows her to grow admiration and respect for the guy. These traits are up to the woman to choose, but whatever the outcome is, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:22 AM
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I wouldn't mind being wrong, in fact I hope I am. But reality is ready to put me back in my place whenever I get my hopes up, and sometimes it's just tiring. I don't party, drink, or do any drugs so I'd really have to go out of my way to meet women. The time trade off then seems to not be worth it; I can get 100% guaranteed return if I go rock climbing, go to the gym, or play video games. The rate of return for going out and meeting women is maybe 5% at best, in my experience. And even then, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:06 AM
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It's not too hard to refute. Even if it's not explicitly stated, the argument only works under the assumption that women's love is based on admiration and respect. Most arguments people make have hidden biases and assumptions that they don't outright state, and finding out what those are and proving those wrong are a great way to refute arguments. For this one, I'd simply argue that women's love isn't based solely on admiration and respect. You say it's not provable and you're somewhat right, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 05:58 AM
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That's definitely true, but once she sees your size you probably won't be getting another date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 03:42 AM
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MGTOW isn't really my thing, but I don't mind it. I'd much rather have a traditional family and all that. Every trait women say they find unattractive I basically have, so it seems pretty obvious that women aren't into guys like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 03:42 AM
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I was trying to be polite about it, but by talented I mean huge donger. If I could work to get one, you bet your ass I'd be working 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 03:26 AM
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It is what it is. There's no sense wasting my time if I have almost a 0% chance of success, and I have no right to complain. Apart from a non-existent romantic life, I am very privileged and blessed in all other parts of my life. I'm very healthy and active, I won't have to worry financially since I make a lot of money (no debt as well), and I have friends to hang out with every week. Overall it's not too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 02:20 AM
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I used to be a feminist and bought into everything. Long story short, my first girlfriend dumped me and told me I was too nice. I tried to be respectful of her and not objectify her so I never made any moves, and I was basically a doormat and did everything she wanted. After that, I kept trying the BP way of doing things and they never worked. I kept seeing all the assholes and jerks have a lot of success, but when I looked around I saw good guys who were awesome people get destroyed by the dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 12:59 AM
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If I understand correctly, you're saying the argument is stupid because it's hard to refute. I don't think that's a valid criticism of an argument unless the argument is infallible (this one is definitely fallible). The basis of the argument is under the assumption that women's love is based on admiration and respect whereas men's love isn't. In order for there to be admiration and respect, a person has to be better than another in some aspect. This of course doesn't automatically make one perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 12:46 AM
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One thing I do agree about with TRP is that women want guys who are better than they are. I get where you're coming from with the point about it being silly that TRP claims to know women better than themselves, but in some aspects they might. Not all, but I think this one is one that they do. Men spend a lot of time trying to figure out how to attract women, so it makes sense that they will know what attracts women more than a woman herself, since your average woman probably doesn't spend a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 10:44 PM
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It has to do with numbers and statistics, but more importantly how those match up with people's experiences. Most guys on TRP have been hurt, and are trying to make sense of it. They live in very different realities than non-TRP, and that's why most people think they're crazy. When someone comes in and spouts a preference that doesn't seem to match up with their experience, of course there will be some people who are skeptical. In their experience, a vast majority of women they've met like trait…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 12:02 AM
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I was thinking who in their right mind would do this but your post sheds light on that mystery.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 05:51 AM
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Started to drastically improve myself and become more physically active, as well as more selfish and pursue things that I want. The biggest change though is my body. I was really skinny before, now I get a lot of compliments from guys about how fit I look. I found that it really helped make life better overall, but had no effect on my appeal to the opposite sex. Still better than where I was before, so I can't really complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 02:20 AM
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Oh yeah, there's definitely some groups that won't do well, but I'm saying your average guy isn't going to have such a huge racial preference that he won't date any girls that are of a particular ethnicity. You may have guys that have preferences, but they still will make exceptions. I don't find a lot of guys out there that have hard race requirements, and those that do are still single. On the other hand, I know women with those kinds of requirements and they have no problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 02:14 AM
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For white men I'm suspecting that they really don't have a huge racial preference and are probably not exclusively targeting Asian women. I think most men are like this only because most men can't afford to have huge limiting factors like that in their dating preferences. Women on the other hand can, and so they do. Why they are specifically targeting white men is beyond me, but I assume it's got something to do with social value or that white guys just tend to be taller than Asians. When you co…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 02:03 AM
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Depends how ugly....I think a woman that is seriously disfigured has it a lot worse than any man, but even a 3 rated face can get a super nice body and can get casual sex at least. Below a 3 though, I'm not too sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 06:46 AM
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This is basically one of my friends. He approaches like crazy but his game is some of the worst I've ever seen and he gets shot down all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 10:08 PM
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Thanks, it's a tough job but someone's gotta do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 02:28 AM
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I don't party and I'm spending NYE with my family. Tomorrow I'll be going to a potluck/get together with some friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 02:21 AM
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Reservoir Dogs was pretty entertaining to me. Haven't seen many of the other films listed on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 02:20 AM
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It's definitely in full force where I'm at. I see Asian moms with hapa kids all the time. I never see Asian moms with Asian kids anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 02:10 AM
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I'm Asian and hang out with a lot of other Asians. At least in the area I'm in and the people I know, the Asian guys actually don't have a preference for white women. They have a preference for Asian women, but Asian women have a preference for white guys so the Asian guys usually disregard race and date whoever. Those women happen to be white because white women don't mind dating Asians as much as Asian women mind dating other Asians.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 11:36 PM
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She's just willing to say what all women are thinking. It's honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 11:33 PM
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The way I understand it, anyone can be a red piller but most of the content is geared towards straight men in the western world. TRP doesn't give any shits about intersectionality but it doesn't exclude anyone who wants to absorb its content and participate in the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 04:40 AM
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I've only really seen it online and not IRL, but it seems to be somewhat common. I wouldn't say really common but I don't think it's rare either. To be honest, I think it's both; guys tell themselves that so they don't feel as bad, but in my experience attractive women tend to have those traits anyways since they can get away with a lot, and not a lot of people call them out on their shit. I don't think RP people have irrational fears of women. Given what women can do to your average guy they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 08:08 PM
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I would definitely take the 6, no hesitation. I don't understand why this is even a question, you'd have to be crazy to take up that 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:49 AM
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If you're working out and going to school then most of that negative stuff seems like insecurity on your part. There are so many hobbies you can start to keep yourself busy. If you want group activities start a meetup. I'm still not clear on why you can't pursue a remote career.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 10:39 PM
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I've read this thread and to sum it up, it sounds like you're bored with life and you feel like your husband and kids are preventing you from living life. That blame is misplaced. If you lead a boring life, it's your fault and not anyone else's. There are plenty of married couples who aren't bored with their lives. You also seem to be in some weird mental state where you can't progress. If you want to be more physically attractive, go to the gym and work out. If you want to be more knowledgeable…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 09:37 PM
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Same exact thing happened to me. Never made a move and she just dropped me and told me she was up to do anything I wanted. It was at that moment I knew all the advice and shit I saw in our culture was basically bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 06:59 AM
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That's what I thought too, but he admits that one of his worst fears is growing old alone so I guess he picked the lesser of two evils in his mind.
/r/MensRights05/04/15 12:41 AM
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The scholarship thing happened to me too during uni. I had a high GPA and qualified in every other way but I was a guy and many scholarships wanted women. I was in computer science though, so I can see where that was going.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 08:27 AM
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I miss her videos but honestly I liked her old ones better where she delivered her message calmly and with great execution. There's a lot of emotion and personal attacks that I don't think were necessary.
/r/MensRights22/12/14 08:51 AM
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Very true, and I agree. Your situation differs in that you had involuntarily shown your body parts, whereas these cosplayers are showing them of their own volition. If they made that choice, they should be aware of the attention they'll get, and also the kinds of attention. If not, they are ignorant and will learn the hard way. If they know and don't want certain kinds of attention (and know they can't deal with it), then they shouldn't do it. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 06:40 PM
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I should've been more clear; the "nice tits" incident happened at another con, years ago and she was just telling the story at this panel. While she was walking around, some guy that passed her just said "nice tits" and walked away. She had his description and name/badge ID so they banned him.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 04:34 AM
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Well that's different, pencil dick seems to be an insult. If someone just said "nice dick" I'd say "wow, thanks." Either way, assholes are going to be assholes and it's just something you have to deal with. I wanted to go since I was curious about what they had to say. I was really sure it was going to be your standard feminist shaming and it kind of was, but they did make some very nice points. I like how one speaker said something along the lines of when you cosplay, you're looking for attenti…
/r/MensRights09/07/13 04:32 AM
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I was there in that panel, but I was with my friends who wanted to leave early. I left just as I saw those shirtless guys you were talking about enter, so all I heard them talking about was the women's side. I didn't like how one of the speakers got a guy kicked out for telling her "nice tits". It was an asshole move on the guy's part, but that was an overreaction to ban him from the con.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 02:01 AM
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How well did you know the accuser? Close friend, or just an acquaintance? Either way, sorry this happened to you. It's pretty messed up.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 04:32 AM
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That's your problem right there: you're writing too much. Generally these girls receive a fuck ton of messages a day, and if they read each long message they wouldn't have time for much else. That's why a few sentences at most is the best. I think.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 12:40 AM
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Actually it does....the existence of just one black goose proves that black geese exist. All you need is just 1 in existence to prove that it does exist. Is it widespread? That's another question, and what she was trying to refute with really bad logic.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 11:25 PM
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Yeah, exactly. That's what I meant by half truths; they only tell you one side of the story: the advantages. They never really consider the disadvantages or the price you have to pay to get those advantages. Or when they do, I guess it's the result of the patriarchy backfiring.
/r/MensRights01/03/13 06:20 AM
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I really hate these "privilege" lists because they're basically a list of advantages. Most classes of people have "privileges", even slaves, homeless people, and starving children. Feminists use half truths to argue so it might seem like they are correct, but if you look deeper you'll find a lot of flaws. For example, these privilege lists are half truths. They do point out the advantages of being male. However, they do not point out the disadvantages. You can also warp a lot of negatives into "…
/r/MensRights28/02/13 09:49 PM
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I'm a very short guy, and I've gotten shit for it for sure in high school. Never in college though, but even in high school it wasn't nearly as bad as what I see in that twitter feed. It's very, very disturbing to see such hatred targeted at a group of people that have no control over this trait they are born with. And honestly, I've never seen this level of hatred towards any group in my entire life. It's disgusting. The good thing though, is looking at the dates it doesn't seem to be super wid…
/r/MensRights05/02/13 05:32 AM
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Oh ok. Yeah, physical appearances aren't my main concern but I thought it would be interesting if there was some sort of correlation, though I highly doubt it. Still, I just thought I'd ask anyways but you don't have to answer if you're not comfortable with it of course.
/r/MensRights23/12/12 04:47 AM
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Well you're right; I wish there was some sort of AskMRAs or maybe there is and I'm stupid (big possibility). Note in my question I never specified any genders; I'm interested in what MRAs as a whole look for in partners. This includes male, female, or transgendered. I'm asking this question because I'm curious. I randomly thought this question up, and didn't have a definite answer, so here I am. If it indeed should be removed, then I apologize for going off topic and will delete this.
/r/MensRights23/12/12 04:38 AM
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What physical traits do you find attractive?
/r/MensRights23/12/12 04:28 AM
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What about her do you find attractive, both physically and personality wise?
/r/MensRights23/12/12 04:24 AM
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What kind of traits do you find attractive in him?
/r/MensRights23/12/12 03:54 AM
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That's true, I was only thinking in terms of adults.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 03:57 AM
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I have no idea. Honestly, people who know rape is wrong and still do it won't be stopped easily. There must be at least one approach that can have decent results, but I'm not smart enough to know what it is.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 03:52 AM
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. I want to know what that percentage is though, because if it isn't that big then I'd argue the time and effort should be spent on more important things. Not to say this isn't an important issue, but maybe a different approach or something.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 03:00 AM
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I never thought of it that way. Kudos to that person.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 11:26 PM
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I'd be interested to see how much rape has declined ever since these types of posters went mainstream. I assume that they won't have much effect since people already know rape is bad, and those who wouldn't rape wouldn't have done so anyways and those that would have already know it's wrong and a poster probably isn't going to change their mind. Nonetheless, I'd be very surprised if these posters did make an impact.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 10:50 PM
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How would you describe the Men's Rights Movement in your own words? Hmm I'm not sure....it means so much to so many people but I'd say it's a group of people who see the problems men have today, and are trying to solve those problems. It's not about superiority over women or anti-feminism, but simply making sure men are treated as human beings and get the rights they deserve. How do you feel being a part of this group has affected your life? It has had its ups and downs. I feel liberated in a wa…
/r/MensRights04/12/12 10:40 AM
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Thanks, it's pretty long but I started reading it. So far I don't see anything I don't know already, but hopefully I'll learn something.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 10:31 AM
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How: I was bored one night, and clicking the "Random" link in the top nav to just visit random subreddits. Came across Men's Rights and was immediately interested, since at the time I identified as a feminist. I had never heard of Men's Rights but even though I was a feminist, the name itself didn't seem very harmful to me. In fact, I thought to myself "hey wait, men can have rights too. I wonder what they're all about." So I started poking around and spent the entire night reading links. Stayed…
/r/MensRights03/12/12 10:17 AM
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Asian-american. Software engineer. Just graduated from a masters program in computer science at UCLA.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 09:18 AM
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Thanks for clearing that up. I only recently started posting, been lurking for basically 9 months or so. Anyways, I do acknowledge my ignorance and I'm glad you called me out and explained things a little better. Feminism seems to take a lot from sociology, and correct me if I'm wrong due to my ignorance, but it should be some form of sociology. When I say that, I mean they should be using the exact methods sociologists use to prove theories and points. They probably do this in the academic worl…
/r/MensRights03/12/12 08:11 AM
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I don't really like it, but at the moment I don't see how this can hurt us too badly. I see this stuff in magnitudes more in feminist areas.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 03:33 AM
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I was a feminist until I came to this subreddit. When I first saw this place I thought to myself "Men's rights....what's that?" It more like I was really curious to see what was going on here, but when I actually saw that the people of this subreddit had very valid arguments and were very mature and well mannered, I began to question myself. I wouldn't join feminism even if they started fighting for men's rights. I believe men's rights should fight for men's rights. I think it's very odd to have…
/r/MensRights03/12/12 03:22 AM
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Wow. This is beautiful. I can't just watch it once.
/r/MGTOW03/12/12 01:39 AM
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Oh, ok. It's just that you've made this assertion but you don't have any argument or proof to convince me of it.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 03:29 AM
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Can you give some examples?
/r/MensRights02/12/12 02:10 AM
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Yeah, people tend to get off track easily. It's just about getting them back on topic and really asking them to explain themselves.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 10:54 AM
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There is a huge problem I'm seeing when arguing or discussing things with feminists. They really like to bring up some sort of comparison war, like women are more oppressed than men or women have it worse than men. Such arguments are a waste of time unless you have compiled all instances of suffering for both genders, assigned them accurate measurements, and then compared the two. Has anyone done that? Not that I know if. Since there is no concrete proof, only observations of specific instances …
/r/MensRights01/12/12 09:36 AM
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From the definitions I've seen, they seem pretty ok to me. What are some definitions you know of and what's wrong with them?
/r/MensRights01/12/12 09:26 AM
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I don't know if I'd say that for sure, but it is definitely very ambiguous and highly plausible that what you're saying is true.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 09:25 AM
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Yeah, after discussing a bit with the people at /r/AskFeminism I see a lot of people saying stuff like their arguments are based on sociology and stuff. It's possible, but the entire field of sociology is a bit questionable to me. Mainly since it's not really a science, more on us making observations and testing to see if they're true in very specific environments. I might be wrong, but that's what it seems like to me.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 09:24 AM
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Yeah I read that definition but it's different than the ones I got in my thread in AskFeminism.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 04:35 AM
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That is a pretty good question, and I am too ignorant to answer it. It does seem pretty possible to me that someone can embrace the idea of equal rights for women, thus being called feminist but not believe that sexism is the result of patriarchy. After discussing the definition, I'm a little closer to a definition in that I have several clear definitions but I still don't have one true, widely accepted definition.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 12:54 AM
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Nevermind, I'm getting some pretty good discussions over there.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 10:51 PM
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Really? That is disappointing. I don't like it anymore.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 07:48 PM
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That can't be true; there must be some feminist argument(s) that have substance and evidence backing it. I find it hard to believe that an entire system is based solely on emotion and belief. Now that I think about it religion is like that and its pretty widespread so I'm confused again.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 07:23 PM
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I see, that makes things a lot clearer. Would patriarchy imply a bad system (i.e. a system where a lot of that stuff is held by men is bad) or is it just a simple observation, like how we would say China has a lot of people?
/r/MensRights30/11/12 05:56 PM
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I see. So there definitely is a group of men who control the entirety of America who gather every so often and plan on how to disadvantage women. Who are these men, and what do they have to gain from this? (I know you're being sarcastic, but just humor me).
/r/MensRights30/11/12 10:54 AM
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Thanks, I'll take a look at those later.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 10:52 AM
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I like that. Sounds pretty neat. I assume it's pronounced key-ear-ree-archy. This is assuming gender neutrality, right?
/r/MensRights30/11/12 10:45 AM
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Just an observation, I find it funny that at this moment I've gotten more replies and definitions on patriarchy on MensRights than I have on AskFeminists, who use the word as justification for a large portion of their argument.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 08:23 AM
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I'm not creative enough to come up with a good word for it, but I really do hope someone comes up with a nice name for it soon so people can start using it. Using "patriarchy" is really misleading and it seems the longer we use it in place of this new magical word, the more damage will be done in the form of spreading ignorance and promoting a sort of mob/groupthink mentality.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 08:21 AM
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Thanks a bunch, that does make things a lot clearer. I can now see why feminists so strongly use the patriarchy as an argument, since we are expected to conform to gender roles. However, I do not see how the US is a patriarchy in the sense that men have more rights than women. Is there such a word for a system that isn't dominated by either gender, but strictly enforces set gender roles? Although, this is all assuming that feminists are using the definition of patriarchy that you have provided a…
/r/MensRights30/11/12 08:08 AM
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Thanks for the video. I like her reasoning and explanations; she provides more than I've seen any feminist do. She brings up a lot of questions I'm asking myself except that she also has an answer.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 08:03 AM
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Hm, I don't really get what you mean by the last part (no one believes in heaven and hell anymore), since it seems many people are still religious. Even if patriarchy had a clear definition, it still doesn't seem like a scientific way of explaining why men are bad. A scientific way of doing that would be doing many studies in various areas proving men are bad and then presenting the unbiased evidence. This makes me wonder if you are correct (and I actually hope you're wrong), that this very vagu…
/r/MensRights30/11/12 08:01 AM
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I see, I like that definition. But is it the definition that feminists have accepted and use? My entire confusion is based around 2 questions, which is not only the definition of patriarchy but its application as a sound argument. They imply that patriarchy and oppression go hand in hand, and this definition doesn't seem like it fits their definition. In fact, some seem to believe patriarchy oppresses both genders but then that's weird because if both are equally oppressed, then could it be that…
/r/MensRights30/11/12 07:50 AM
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If that's true, then that's kind of disappointing. I was looking forward to having a logically sound definition of patriarchy so I could better understand the arguments of feminists who use it as some sort of proof/argument. This just makes me wonder if something has no clear definition, how was it able to become such a powerful argument? Now I'm even more confused. I read the stuff on AskFeminism about patriarchy and the only definition I like was that it's the enforcement of gender roles but l…
/r/MensRights30/11/12 07:35 AM
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Stupid question, but is this a widely accept definition by a majority of feminists? I know it comes from the Encyclopedia of Feminism, but it seems there are many types of feminism and conversely many definitions of patriarchy. I guess I should also ask, is patriarchy one of the terms with one definition or is it something that everyone defines on their own? If it's the latter then I can see a lot of feminist arguments crumbling, which answers my second question (if it can be applied as a valid …
/r/MensRights30/11/12 07:25 AM
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Did I miss something, because they didn't really seem to talk about the topic at hand that much (feminism encouraging violence in women). It seemed to jump around a lot and this Peaches person just talked a lot about herself and her experiences.
/r/MensRights29/11/12 08:43 PM
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good
/r/MensRights09/10/12 06:43 AM
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At first glance it looks pretty bad, but I wanna hear more about the husband. Did he have a history of abusing her? Was he an alcoholic? There's a bit of crucial information missing that can make this event either a grave injustice, or just a woman protecting herself. The huge change of character during the 911 call to the police isn't very reassuring though, and that in itself is also very questionable.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 06:56 AM
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My thoughts exactly. I was enjoying the article and once I read the last line I was like wat.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 08:28 AM
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Not in a sense it is discrimination, IT IS DISCRIMINATION. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/discrimination "treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit" You're giving certain people of a certain group (women) different treatment based solely on the fact that they are part of that group (letting people with a vagina play for free) …
/r/MensRights11/08/12 01:04 AM
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Same here. Women don't seem to know how easy they really have it, and seeing complaints on facebook and in general just really piss me off to no end. Walking around at night scares the shit out of me too, it's not just women. It's dangerous overall for everyone. That "living in fear" thing really annoys me too. Anyone can live in fear if they believe everything and everyone is out to get them. How about living with the very real fear of having all your current and future earnings given away, or …
/r/MensRights10/08/12 05:51 AM
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I'm kind of in the same boat as you with my friend, except she's not as read up on our issues. Whenever I try and bring something up where men are disadvantaged or where women are highly advantaged, she always says it's relative and only applies to a small percentage of the population, no matter what the issue is. I've stopped trying to convince her since she gets mad at me easily. You should do the same thing too. Just try and keep your thoughts to yourself, you're lucky that your friend at lea…
/r/MensRights10/08/12 05:32 AM
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I don't think she has any evidence to back up her claims, just saying stuff like it depends on the situation but in the end she thinks its all fair. That's why I thought that showing proof would help my argument since she has none. I am interested in the truth, not just trying to argue. I really do want to believe this is all real, and I want everyone to be aware of this issue as well.
/r/MensRights28/04/12 05:09 AM
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I just wanted to make a few friends aware that this issue does in fact exist, but some are just dismissing it. Thanks for the advice though, she does seem to not want to believe anything I'm saying so I'll just leave it at that.
/r/MensRights28/04/12 03:57 AM
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I probably should've reworded the title, or given it a different one. I really want to provide to her a good argument that this problem does exist and that it is indeed real, but she refuses to believe it and says it's situational. When I thought about it, incidents posted here are just a few out of potentially hundreds of thousands of its kind. Is there some sort of proof I can just give her to show that it is indeed not limited to a few cases, or some sort of argument?
/r/MensRights28/04/12 03:20 AM
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