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| 3 | Women's infatuation with the lives of celebrities is a male ickIt was, but it was manipulated to enhance the racing/grid politics stories, a big one being where their documentary footage of Grosjean stuck in a burning car runs about twice as long as the actual live footage. But at no point are you being asked to form some weird parasocial relationship with Romain Grosjean where you're supposed to care deeply if he's faithful to his wife or not. He make car go fast and one time he walked out a fireball. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can be friends, the only reason you don’t think so is because you aren’t willing to be friends with someone you aren’t sexually attached to.I don't think the drug friend in this context means some weird dude who people only keep around because he lets people do bumps of his coke. He's not in junior high. A proper drug friend should exist almost on a plane between worlds, handing out bags of ketamine before disappearing off into the night, and then showing up three hours later with a handful of assorted pill presses which he'll tell you what they are but you'll still be none the wiser. It's good work if you can get it, but I think it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/20 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Q2RP: How would you apply RP strategies with a more intellectual type of girl?Well, that's almost the point. The man is a bizarre caricature with all the traditional political savvy of a head of lettuce. But somehow despite this he has managed to obtain pretty much everything he could ever have wanted, up to and including becoming President of the United States for no real reason other than boredom and self-indulgence. He did so in the face of opposition from pretty much the entire political spectrum and all of the mainstream media, and entirely on a platform of "no, fuck… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/18 08:23 PM |
| 5 | Q4ALL: Is marriage validating for a man?The underlying cultural narrative that most people in the west seem to now be raised with is that marriage is validation for women, and sex is validation for men. Once you start to see things through that lens, it explains a lot of why people behave as they do and complain about the things that they complain about. At the same time, I don't think either of those is all-or-nothing, and it's not a bizarre outlier for the inverse to be true to a certain extent. I have to say that it wouldn't be for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/18 02:42 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, how would you explain male sexuality to women who are confused about "neediness" vs. "independence?"Well, I'd agree with that, and that's the part about context. A woman who needs you emotionally is very different from a single mom who needs someone, anyone, to pay for her kids to have new shoes. That said, if you were to make two lists, one of things you wanted, and one of things you needed, the more important things would be on the second list and all your passing fancies would be on the first list. That of course ends up being a discussion of verbiage rather than feelings, and both can clea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 08:45 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, how would you explain male sexuality to women who are confused about "neediness" vs. "independence?"It's a very subtle distinction here, but I would say that a lot of men (particularly RP men) are less attracted to women being needy as much as they are the idea of being needed. At some point I'd rather date some college girl who stares at me with puppy-dog eyes and wants me to fix all the ways that she's broken than I would a career woman who's decided that I'm an Acceptable Batchelor and wants to have a two-hour house meeting about budget options. That said, there are of course limits and con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 06:19 PM |
| 3 | I'm an INTJ female, do I have any hope finding love?I'm going to let you in on the big bodybuilding secret here, but literally every woman who's "jacked" enough to compete in a category higher than bikini starts to look like they have a man's body because they're taking (derivatives of) male hormones. Pretending otherwise is for fat girls and shitty personal trainers. The only exceptions to that are if you have a genuine hormonal issue (e.g. Caster Semenya), or if you're not actually genetically a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/18 07:19 PM |
| 2 | Female-oriented media seems really same-y. Possible explanations for this?Oh, absolutely. I'm sort of curious to one day ask someone from the marines as to how many people die each year because they watched Commando too many times. I think the interesting point, though, is whether the nature of that fantasy play can give some indication of male and female nature, or whether it's just a case of the tail wagging the dog. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 02:00 PM |
| 2 | Female-oriented media seems really same-y. Possible explanations for this?To be fair, I don't think the point was that you can't find female characters in the mainstream media who don't fit into the one same character archetype. Silence Of The Lambs doesn't include a ten-minute cutaway of Clarice and her awful friends talking about how working for the FBI is haaaard and men are poopy while drinking $20 cocktails. I think it's more that male self-insert fiction (James Bond, or 90% of anything that Schwarzenegger or Stallone ever did), seems to play on different values,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 12:05 PM |
| 15 | CMV: Having daughters is the ultimate cuckoldry"This Austrian father discovered one weird trick to avoid being cucked by his daughter. Police hate him!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/17 07:21 AM |
| 3 | What does feminism mean to you and why do you support/oppose it?It depends if we're talking about very specific forms of feminism, or the "feminism" that is literally just a word you say among certain groups of people, and to yourself, to show that you are a good, moral, person like them, and not one of the poorly-defined enemy to which we must be forever opposed. Any sensible definition regarding a feminism that is in some way still politically active, is that it inherently implies a belief that women are unfairly disadvantaged as a result of their gender, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/17 01:03 AM |
| 12 | CMV: Consent workshops are warranted.Open question - do you think anyone's position from that thread would be changed as a result of a mandatory consent workshops? It was clear from that thread that most people weren't talking about an interpretation of law, they were talking about their own ethical interpretations about the limitations of implied consent. Being forcibly sat in a room so that a woman with fringe political opinions can tell them that their moral positions are objectively wrong on the basis of "fuck you, that's why" … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/17 02:47 PM |
| 7 | Do liberal women's fascination with Islam yet contempt for Christianity stem from having a natural desire for dominant partners?No, no, no, you're overthinking a simple issue. The obsession with Islam is entirely around middle-class white women needing a moral justification for their own navel-gazing self-indulgence. None of them have actually ever met a Muslim in real life, and they haven't read a word of the Quran, but wearing a "sympathy hijab" and protesting against dangerous white supremacists like Ayaan Hirsi Ali makes them feel like they're, like, soooo empathetic, you know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/17 06:35 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: Will things for omegas (men who can't get sex) ever get better?Well, Bill seems to love Hillary, so I guess at least that much. Just upload that chatbot that 4chan taught to be an anti-Semite with daddy issues and call it a day - frankly, I've dated worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/17 12:34 PM |
| 11 | Can someone with a really good understanding of the core TRP concepts help me out with some basic comprehension?I've seen that most of the ideas presented by TRP are fairly broad concepts that can be interpolated in several ways, and as such you're not going to get one clear answer. That said: 1: As others have mentioned, the 80/20 rule has been around for a long time and is a metaphorical model that generally suggests that 80% of your results come from 20% of your work. The key idea here is that high value men are willing to fuck downwards (because at some point a blowjob is still a blowjob), and certain… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/17 12:16 PM |
| 1 | NSFW Q4All: Are masculine/alpha men sexually open-minded?See my comment up top about the Leicester sex tape (you can google it, if that's your fetish). I'm also thinking of the Ched Evans "rape" case, where aside from anything else it started with Ched climbing up a fire escape to a hotel room so that he and his team-mate could Eiffel Tower a drunk girl. Top bonding there, Ched. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/17 03:59 PM |
| 3 | NSFW Q4All: Are masculine/alpha men sexually open-minded?Well, I'm being hyperbolic for effect, naturally, but it's based on a few real cases of professional sportsmen with incredibly poor judgement. I don't know if you saw the stories about Leicester winning the league, but the irony of it is that their Thai owners fired the manager before Ranieri after his son was one of several players who appeared in a video that came out of them getting rimjobs from local Thai hookers. Like, I don't know, I'd consider myself fairly sexually forward and comfortabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/17 03:41 PM |
| 1 | NSFW Q4All: Are masculine/alpha men sexually open-minded?The definition of "open minded" is going to be critical here. Your definition seems to be mainly around being open to sexually submissive behaviour, in which case the answer is likely no in 99% of cases. If you're talking more in the sense of sexual exploration and sensation-seeking behaviours (see the phenomenon that professional soccer players are apparently physically unable to perform sexually without inviting at least one friend to film and to racially abuse the woman involved), then you're… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/17 03:05 PM |
| 1 | Are feminists right?The problem here is that you're looking at these simultaneous movements happening in very politically different cultures and you're talking about them as just A Thing Happening and not in some way a consequence of circumstances and things that have come before. Geert Wilders has been around a long time, but he wasn't winning elections ten years ago. Trump wouldn't have won an election ten years ago. Ten years ago articles were being printed in the German press about how great it was that they co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/17 11:02 PM |
| 3 | When modern men seem unmanly, is it that they are feminine or it is that they are immature?Honestly, I think you're looking at two sides of the same problem, but would kind of agree in principle. A lot of what is commonly talked about as "feminization" of men is actually more of a neutering and a commercialisation of men that causes them to come off as "man-children", as feminists so like to describe them. This doesn't have a single cultural cause, but it's certainly the case that as a society, western culture has largely stamped down on traditional male identities and the values and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/17 09:25 PM |
| 2 | [Discussion] Do you agree that high partner count is an entirely male preoccupation which women don't care about if raised in a non-patriarchal, sex-positive, feminist environment?That feels a lot like you've created a tautology - "all modern women believe what I believe, as long as you exclude all the ones that weren't taught it as if it were an objective and self-evident fact from birth". That said, I've certainly seen women get upset about numbers, for exactly the same reasons. It's rare, because men with 50+ partners are rare, but it seems to inspire a certain level of dread that your boyfriend plowed his way through half of California. Generally, though, when I see w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/17 12:45 AM |
| 1 | How would you feel if your sister's boyfriend raped her and the police didn't exist? Do you think your caveman ancestors felt differently?I'm talking specifically about taking the modern trend of rural society being more socially conservative and trying to establish from that some link between agriculture and conservative values, in such a way as to infer that prior to the development of agriculture cultures were not socially conservative. The inference you'd draw from this is that if I was worried about my daughter taking up rugmunching, the correct approach would be to send her to the back yard to plant some corn. Maize cures sl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/17 04:17 PM |
| 2 | What do Redpill detractors expect to see when they read manosphere blogs, forums or subreddits?In fairness, it depends here what sort of positions we're talking about. Do I expect someone to argue against "I'm from Buenos Aires, and I say 'Kill Em All'" as a factual position? Of course not, but it's not intended to be a factual position (which incidentally, I would say is true of a lot of TRP positions). The issue is the Ben Affleck problem. If I suggest to you that Islam and Islamic immigration poses an inherent problem for Western societies, and can provide a range of quantitative and q… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/17 03:43 PM |
| 7 | What do Redpill detractors expect to see when they read manosphere blogs, forums or subreddits?Which is basically a nice way of saying that if an opinion upsets you, you're going to ignore it. It's not as if anyone is deliberately going to argue from an irrational foundation. Rather, what you've actually done is decide that prima facie any discussion that falls outside of an arbitrary value set you've decided for yourself is inherently wrong, regardless of the lived experience of that person. Which is, of course, your prerogative, but you can't then reasonably expect that to carry meaning… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/17 11:57 PM |
| 8 | What do Redpill detractors expect to see when they read manosphere blogs, forums or subreddits?Eh, I've seen that less than I've seen the opposite - a bunch of people who expect to be able to win an argument simply by decrying something as "racist" and who go red in the face as it becomes less and less effective, eventually achieving nothing except getting regular people to associate their own views with sexism and racism, and therefore believing that such things must not be so bad after all... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/17 11:39 PM |
| 1 | How would you feel if your sister's boyfriend raped her and the police didn't exist? Do you think your caveman ancestors felt differently?There are several concerns I'd have with this: Literally all civilizations begin from farming. Without a big food surplus, you can't rise up to the level of having paved roads. If the farmers = intolerance pattern continues to hold true, it seems likely that the dawn on agriculture also brought a dawn of sexual intolerance which had not previously been the norm. As other people have highlighted, you've taken a modern cultural trend and from it drawn the conclusion that there must be some inheren… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/17 11:22 PM |
| 6 | What do Redpill detractors expect to see when they read manosphere blogs, forums or subreddits?Isn't that the crux of the problem? Talking about things as "sexist" or "racist" instead of challenging them on the actual facts of the matter turns any issue into simply a subjective exercise which immediately falls down on your part as soon as you encounter someone who isn't going to start self-flagellating at the utterance of an accusation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/17 10:00 PM |
| 6 | What are your thoughts on today's Women's March on Washington?I'll be honest that I haven't paid that much attention to what is or isn't on the website, but I'm pretty sure that there was a similar story about Trump deleting the climate change element of the White House website, and only later was it pointed out that literally all of the policy pages had been removed on account of there being, you know, a new President and all that jazz. I mean, I wouldn't hold my breath that Trump is going to do something radical in terms of gay rights (and tbh I'm not su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 06:33 PM |
| 8 | What are your thoughts on today's Women's March on Washington?Well, quite. How on earth did the Democrats get to a point where they were being outmaneuvered on these issues by a party full of billionaires? How has a lecherous silver-spooner become a rallying point for the downtrodden poor? Why are the left-wing voices in the media more concerned with petty issues of race and gender than they are with class and economics? It's a fundamental failure of the left, not just in the US, but globally. If you search for Mark Blyth on Youtube, there are some very in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 03:53 PM |
| 14 | What are your thoughts on today's Women's March on Washington?Don't get me wrong, the right to protest is absolute, even if you're one lone nut shouting about the Illuminati. The problem here is perhaps more that there's no clear idea what, exactly, they're protesting in the first place. In many ways, it's more likely to come across to voters as saying "how dare working class people vote for someone we don't like". Particularly as a socialist, that's really uncomfortable. I don't think anyone's come out and actively called for the election to be thrown out… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 03:10 PM |
| 9 | What are your thoughts on today's Women's March on Washington?It's hardly a "privilege check" in the same sense as the regressive left uses it. The problem here is not that rich white women are concerned with their own problems and should instead feel some odd sense of shame and spend their time "signal boosting" ethnic fetishism and the ravings of the mentally ill. The actual problem is that they've learned literally nothing and are fundamentally unwilling to accept a world where their issues might not be prioritized by, say, people who are about to lose … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 02:52 PM |
| 7 | What are your thoughts on today's Women's March on Washington?Note that the comment I replied to specifically stated that nobody was actually there looking to achieve change, but it sure is super fun to make a cardboard sign with something utterly platitudinous like "women's rights are human rights" on it. Which I guess is a great time if you enjoy that sort of thing. Literally the only causes I've even seen mentioned in the context of this are abortion and LGBT issues, which are strangely enough the only two credible political issues modern feminists talk… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 12:56 PM |
| 16 | What are your thoughts on today's Women's March on Washington?Isn't that... a bit shit? Going out and marching not because you have any intention of political change, but because you want to have a super fun time being self-righteous and letting everyone know how enlightened and virtuous you are by covering your face in glitter and shouting platitudes? I mean, it's a lot easier than actual self-analysis about why you lost the election, but maybe try taking up a hobby or something instead? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 10:02 AM |
| 31 | What are your thoughts on today's Women's March on Washington?Watching people protest the results of a democratic election is pretty embarrassing, and I'm not sure if it's better or worse when it's in a country that didn't actually vote for the US president. The irony is that most of the people involved seem to be incredibly privileged people who've come out to posture about how much more enlightened they are than the people funding their lifestyles. They don't have the real worries that people who can't put food on the table do, but Trump is a godsend to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/17 09:55 AM |
| 5 | What do you think is the long term solution to the sexual marketplace?From an economic perspective, it's already happened. There's a reason that people were piling hundreds of billions of investment dollars into subprime mortgages while knowing for years that they were going to collapse - the 20th century model of growth has simply dried up. You can't just rely on increasing production every year in the same way that you could in 1950, because the resources just aren't there to support it any more. You hit hard limits in terms of how much oil, gas, coal and valuab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/16 12:18 PM |
| 1 | Is feminism the cash cow of the left?I don't think feminism in and of itself is a "cash cow" in the way that you're suggesting, but the "old" media has absolutely taken to using it as part of a wider "culture war" narrative that forms something akin to a clickbait version of yellow journalism. In that sense it's definitely a cash cow for them. It's something I'll harp on about a lot, that now when you read something pro-feminist and anti-male in, say, the New York Times, or full-bore apologetics for Islamic terrorism in Salon, it's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/16 07:48 PM |
| 1 | Lets discuss "women are children"Sorry, I took from your original post that you were a relevant and important person who held some marginal influence at whatever corporate hellscape you were involved with. It was a mistake on my part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Lets discuss "women are children"Or you could, if you were a competent manager (you know, with a penis), take someone aside and have a quiet word in their ear that you feel someone else may take their comments the wrong way. But no, you'd rather undermine talented people behind their back based on your own personal crusades, which I can guarantee other people will notice and judge you for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 07:20 PM |
| 2 | Lets discuss "women are children"So... you avoid conflict to people's faces but then sabotage them behind their back out of petty spite? I guess that'll show them for thinking that women are childish and incapable of proper leadership. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 06:18 PM |
| 0 | "Withholding" is the wrong word.So, by the same measure, we shouldn't talk about men "withholding" affection, they just don't feel the need to display affection at that moment, correct? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 12:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What do you think is the most non-PC, unpalatable truth about the majority of either gender?To be fair, we have to account here for industrial accidents, cancer survivors, and also victims of witchcraft. Those are the only three reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/16 09:15 PM |
| 21 | Are men actually intimidated by successful women?I don't believe they have this kind of thought process: "Wow that girl is super hot and nice but damn! She is a doctor. She probably earns more than me. She probably won't have time for me and will only think about her career. No. I definitely won't talk to her. It will be a waste of time." I wouldn't say that's out of the question, but it would more be that often when "successful" women talk about these things, they come into it with a belief that having a $250,000 income and a masters degree m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/16 06:56 PM |
| 2 | Gender neutral equivalent to RP as a tool for victims of abuse?Discussion of being "marginalized" is something of a canard here, to allow people with fashionable victimhood identities to rationalize closing off their own spaces while simultaneously demanding access to everyone else's. It doesn't actually need to be black people in Spain for the purposes of the example, it could just as easily be a forum for people who drive zambonis at ice hockey rinks with a bunch of people coming in and whining about all the zamboni talk. And of course, I'm not saying tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/16 02:32 PM |
| 1 | Gender neutral equivalent to RP as a tool for victims of abuse?I don't believe that people deliberately pretend, but they have huge cognitive dissonances about it. If someone made a forum for black people living in Spain, and I came marching in announcing how it would work much better if you took out all of the stuff about being black and just made it about general life tips for people living in Spain, and well, I'm just concerned that some of the stuff posted might not be welcoming of white people, so we'll need a whole bunch of moderation to make sure non… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/16 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Gender neutral equivalent to RP as a tool for victims of abuse?However, I think if someone carefully combed through RP ideals and threw out all the focus on supposed differences between women and men, they could actually come up with a pretty good gender-neutral guide Why? On what basis are we going to say that these tools for men to use would somehow work better if they were neutered, other than that the idea of a thing being for men and not for women makes you buttfrustrated? There's no real reason to believe that men and women are the same, and certainly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/16 12:35 PM |
| 3 | Men: what is a mixed or contradictory signal you receive from the wider society about gender or romance that you feel one of the pills helps explain or sort out for you?You lot have a very negative stereotype of what LTRs are. That's not every LTR, but that's specifically what people are talking about in terms of AF/BB. Yes, a handful of people will always be mad if their new girlfriend turns out to be a used girlfriend, but AF/BB literally wouldn't be a thing if you weren't seeing endless stories (and I don't just mean on TRP) of men getting into relationships where somehow they're "great guys" but where the woman is conversely only willing to put in 10% of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/16 03:03 PM |
| 10 | Why does TRP seem so sociopathic?This is largely a repeat of something I said in a post a few days ago, but I'll do it again here: I don't believe anyone writes on TRP with the intention that it should be the one true guide to all human interactions and that if an alien ever came down they should be presented with a copy, lovingly bound and gold-leafed. Rather, men have literally thousands of places where they can be told to shut up, sit down, stop upsetting women, to trust their betters, to do what they're told, and to be good… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/16 02:51 PM |
| 3 | Men: what is a mixed or contradictory signal you receive from the wider society about gender or romance that you feel one of the pills helps explain or sort out for you?This would work fantastically, if the woman involved in this metaphor went through all of these men that she didn't like, and then when she finds the one that she wants she goes out of her way to keep him happier than all of the ones that came before. You wouldn't allow yourself to put on 50lbs, or expect him to pay for your kids, or give him a list of weekend chores, or decide that you're "past" doing anything exciting in the bedroom. You'd do the exact opposite of all of those things because t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/16 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: RP's Need for OtheringI wouldn't describe it as lying, it's built out of things that are broadly true, but built into an absolutist position. It's the same thing as for people who are overweight, you tell them to treat sugar as if it's arsenic, the obesity crisis is a result of corporate interests, and that food manufacturers have been deliberately adding it to food for years in order to get you hooked. That's not in any way wrong, but it's also an all-or-nothing position that you need to take people to for them to c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 06:00 PM |
| 8 | Discussion: RP's Need for OtheringThere's probably a lot of truth in that. I think the important thing some people seem to miss about reading TRP is that where it's talking about women, it's doing so as a deliberate correction. When you have a group of men who've been taught since they were very young children that their only real job is basically to make the women in their lives happy, and who as a consequence build so much of their self-worth around seeking validation from women, it's a necessary development stage to say "but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 07:28 PM |
| 3 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.So, you know, about that thing where Red Pillers post about the definition of rape being expanded to absurd levels to encourage people to see themselves as victims, genuine rape victims being overlooked in favor of navel-gazing attention-seekers, and the term "rape culture" being used as a pretend crisis to justify interference in just about any human interaction? And where Blue Pillers come back and say, "oh, no no no, that's just some idiots on Tumblr, that's not what serious feminism is about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Do Redpillers believe in love?It's maybe a little complex to draw clear dividing lines, but that's where we have the issue of using the word "love" to describe a dozen separate things. You love your dog. You love your wife. You love your parents. You love sunsets. You love the Red Sox. You need to learn to love yourself. You love Jesus. You love when you're double-teaming a girl with a buddy and the balls touch. Whatever. Most of these don't actually mean anything. If I'm talking about love, I want to talk about something mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/16 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Red pillers: Do you red pill theories for race, religion, fantasy football, or any other topic besides sexual strategy?Depends how we want to talk about race - I'd see race as a social construct. However, the real problem with race is cultural (or economic, but that's a separate sphere), in that some cultures are better than others and that those that aren't shouldn't be celebrated. Similarly, some religions (and some denominations of religions) are dumber than others and there shouldn't be a set number of idiots idioting after which their beliefs should somehow become justifiable. Neither of these I feel are pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 08:03 PM |
| 5 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.How have those people not realized that attraction is the baseline entry point for any sort of sexual relationship? Even TV beats the "cad gets the girls" trope to death. I think the truth of it is the most of them didn't see themselves as unattractive. They realise that they're not Brad Pitt, but nor are they Quasimodo, they're normal guys with normal jobs and normal hobbies. That's the point where they set their baseline, and it's the idea that the women will reject 80% of men out of hand and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Do Redpillers believe in love?Probably not. There's definitely such a thing as personal infatuation, but you can't really put that on a card. Love is something broader, that you can have for the universe as a whole or for persons individually, but I think is far more about contentment and understanding. Can you have the two together? Perhaps, but I think it's difficult. The two tend to bash into each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 07:13 PM |
| 7 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.It's important to contextualise this, though. I don't think the issue here is the 400lb man who are baffled that lingerie models aren't falling all over him. I'm sure he exists somewhere, but most people don't literally ignore attraction as a concept. It's the people in the middle of the bell curve that are the problem. They're the 5s, 6s and 7s that recognise that they're not 8s, 9s or 10s, but have been taught over and over again that being kind and funny and charming is the real dealbreaker, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 07:00 PM |
| 16 | Why marry a RPer?The use of the word "intentionally" here seems fairly weaselly. I don't think there's almost anyone in the world that would tell you that what they're desperately seeking is a rampant jerk to belittle them in public. Must love spiders. But if you're screening specifically for assholes and you're still filled with asshole 90% of the time, you have to assume that a) 95% of men are assholes; b) assholishness correlates to attractiveness in some other regard; c) women can't measure assholishness at … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 06:50 PM |
| 2 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?I'm also in Europe, and in Europe, if a man is specifically trying to hang out with you one-on-one, it's generally because he wants to put his fingers in you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 06:48 AM |
| 6 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Wait, now you've gone from "I can't win here", to "it's not my responsibility not to arrange friend dates with people or take advantage of their interest". That's 90% of it. If he wants to hang out with you one-on-one, it's a date and you should decline. This isn't rocket science. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 05:21 PM |
| 2 | Older women in moviesThe Good Feminist's Guide To Cultural Criticism: 1) Declare that there's a great unfulfilled audience out there clamouring for a Spiderman movie where the lead is a lesbian transsexual with an anxiety disorder. Suggest that the only reason that this movie doesn't get made is bigotry/The Patriarchy/Jeeeews. But the older, male producers of Hollywood are still churning out the same-old same-old, resulting in older movie-goers flocking to indie movies to find the movies they want to watch: 2) Watch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 05:52 PM |
| 3 | Older women in moviesNope. General consensus is that any film that doesn't take double its production cost is losing money overall once you factor in marketing, distribution and the theater cut of each ticket. Something like Batman vs Superman cost $250m to make, and then spent another $165m in marketing, to put that into perspective (and has still taken exponentially more than the new Ghostbusters, despite being universally determined as both bad and dumb). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 05:19 PM |
| 10 | [SPOILERS] Is the new Ghostbusters movie an example of misandry or the hate of it misogyny?Honestly, I think a lot of the criticisms of the film are valid (a lot of which are unrelated to the fact that the people involved have vaginas), but at the same time it's just a movie, and as soon as people start going off on wild screeds about the politics of it all you wonder why any of it matters to anyone. I just hear Terence McKenna's voice in my head going on about cultural engineering and shit-brained thinking. Go do something rather than investing yourself in the success or failure of a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/16 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Please post SPECIFIC examples of cultural messages that tell boys "look don't matter" and "just be nice" to get the girlsI think, to be fair, Ricky Gervais sometimes plays both sides of the coin with this. I'm reminded now of one of his other vehicles, The Invention Of Lying, which was 90% Jennifer Garner explaining in a deadpan tone that she's objectively just too attractive to date him, but at the very end he chooses not to lie to her and therefore she now loves him (thereby immediately denoting this as a work of fiction). It's almost as if the movie has to turn back in on itself to allow for a happy (read: blue… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/16 07:23 PM |
| 3 | Please post SPECIFIC examples of cultural messages that tell boys "look don't matter" and "just be nice" to get the girlsWell, don't get me wrong, if I could give you one piece of red pill advice for the future, throwing your television out of a window would be... it. But the question was what the messages are in culture that encourage young men to behave the way they do, and you can spot them at a hundred yards. It's odd, though, that you can go onto not just the internet, but the mainstream media, and see pages upon pages of fevered discussion about women's role in media, how women are portrayed in comic books, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/16 07:02 PM |
| 4 | Please post SPECIFIC examples of cultural messages that tell boys "look don't matter" and "just be nice" to get the girlsFuturama is one that's always stood out to me, it does this repeatedly. Leela thinks Fry is a big bag of turds, and ignores him in favor of multiple guys who are richer or smarter or more important, and then Fry does a thing and Leela realizes that he was the one after all (until they need to backtrack on it for story purposes). I'm thinking particularly of the episode where he moves the stars for her, and this in and of itself is enough to move her from thinking he's an asshole to the two of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/16 05:30 PM |
| 0 | Question: is there anybody in here who is ex-blue pill? As in you posted regularly to The Blue Pill and now are pretty firmly Red Pill. What influenced the change?Do you actually believe most of that? It kind of highlights the point I was making, here. The various media conglomerates and institutions are quite happy to broadcast footage of a grown man gyrating in a cock-sock at Pride on the six o'clock news, or to discuss at length how many genders there are (hint: two; there are two genders), but the moment a major party chooses to be represented by someone who is not a neo-liberal, they're falling over themselves to come up with smear campaigns about hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 08:23 PM |
| 4 | Question: is there anybody in here who is ex-blue pill? As in you posted regularly to The Blue Pill and now are pretty firmly Red Pill. What influenced the change?In truth, I think it's a lot more complex than just the "left" or the "right" being stronger, as if you can boil these things down to red team vs blue team and where the other team is composed entirely of assholes, which seems to be the new normal for political discourse. What's very noticeable about the left in 2016 is that the old left is dead. It may well have died with Tony Benn. Once upon a time, when you talk about people like Eugene Debs, like Nye Bevan, the left was about working-class p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/16 07:42 PM |
| 4 | "Until we reassess what it means to be a “real man” then men will continue to beat their wives and murder LBGT people to ease their own self-loathing."I agree that it can be interpreted more than one way, but I think it's a lot simpler just to work on the understanding that most men will object to being lectured on their own masculinity by groups of people (mostly women) that have, at best, only the most superficial understanding of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/16 04:12 PM |
| 9 | "Until we reassess what it means to be a “real man” then men will continue to beat their wives and murder LBGT people to ease their own self-loathing."Honestly, my first thought when reading the title in the OP is that all I would have to do is to take that sentence and insert the word "black" or "Muslim" before the word "man" in order to set off a Twitter storm (which is the actual goal of all journalism nowadays, but let's not dwell on that). It's very interesting what groups you're allowed to assign collective blame to for the actions of individuals and which groups you aren't. But yes, I'd say there's something fairly distasteful about the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/16 04:06 PM |
| 6 | Is male entitlement behind domestic violence, school shootings and the events like the Orlando shootings?I'm not suggesting here that the opinion here isn't worth interacting with because it's dumb, I'm suggesting that it's not worth interacting with because it's incoherent gibberish that tries to hide behind buzzwords. Presumably we'll have something come through next week that tries to link the idea of "white privilege" to the gorilla that got shot, and it'd have just as much value. I'll change my mind if you can actually explain in normal English what is meant by saying that a mass shooting is s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/16 04:45 PM |
| 5 | Is male entitlement behind domestic violence, school shootings and the events like the Orlando shootings?Have you ever seen, say, a 45-minute Jane Goodall documentary? Been to the zoo? Do you believe that male chimpanzees are also "entitled" when they engage in violence with each other? Human beings aren't just the sum of their biological roots, but it's hilarious to watch feminists pretend that biology doesn't exist at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/16 04:31 PM |
| 14 | Is male entitlement behind domestic violence, school shootings and the events like the Orlando shootings?There's nothing here even worthy of intelligent comment. It's an embarrassing indictment of the slow decline of print media into being a collection of deliberate clickbait trolling and identity porn that any editor with any hint of professional value wouldn't immediately fire the person who let this tortured word salad touch his desk. J. Jonah Jameson wouldn't have stood for this, I'll tell you that much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/16 12:14 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: How would you want marital assets to be split during divorce?I think that's reasonable enough, to be honest. The only thing that bugs me with these conversations, though, is the implication that women have somehow been forced to stay at home through the trickery of their husbands. Let's be honest here, women become SAHMs because they want to be SAHMs. There's no obligation on them to do it, and most of the professional women I've known haven't. On no account am I saying that a SAHM has a value of $0, but you can't walk out of a marriage and then start cry… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/16 07:04 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How would you want marital assets to be split during divorce?Not at all, I'm saying that it would be a woman's responsibility to either have her own retirement arrangements or for the pension pot to be explicitly made for two beneficiaries. If she's done neither, that's a failure on her part. Naturally, where it's written as a shared plan that can be split, I have no issue with it being split. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/16 06:41 AM |
| 0 | Q4RP: How would you want marital assets to be split during divorce?That seems like something that she as an adult should have dealt with during the lifetime of the marriage. If she's made no retirement plans during the marriage, there's absolutely no reason why she should expect anything now the marriage is over and the other party has no obligation to her. The courts should not exist to punish men for making intelligent decisions and to reward women for making poor ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/16 10:01 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think about this "advice"?About the same time that 4chan decided that the only reasonable things for a man to wear in all situations and climates were t-shirts and two different colours of pants, I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/16 09:48 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP: How would you want marital assets to be split during divorce?I'd suggest that the likelihood of people locking their money away for 20 years for no other reason than to spite their spouse is fairly low, but at the same time I think all of this can reasonably have a caveat that it can be assessed against a divorce if obviously being used to undermine the normal process. That's much less significant an issue than protecting men in general from losing their retirement security as part of any divorce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/16 09:26 PM |
| 5 | What do you guys think about this "advice"?I don't know how I ever made it through life without hearing the sage advice of, "wear normal clothes, not coats or stuff". To be honest, though, a lot of it seems to approach things with the same problems that most non-RP PUA material does, in that it's not actually about recognizing your own value as a man and out-competing others, it's about identifying yourself as a failure and then hiding that self-esteem issue under eight layers of cargo cult bullshit where you go through the approximate m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/16 09:18 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP: How would you want marital assets to be split during divorce?There's absolutely no moral justification for alimony in 2016, beyond the initial costs of relocation, which can and should be reasonably factored into the overall divorce settlement. Child support should be capped and should be set at a level intended to protect children from falling into poverty and welfare dependency. I would hope that most men who've had children in stable relationships would want to provide more than that, but it's again absolutely immoral for the state to attempt to enforc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/16 07:58 PM |
| 2 | "Relationships are a zero sum game" is an evolutionarily impossible phenomenon.So, we solve the sex vs commitment problem by defining the "mutually beneficial" solution as starting from the point of agreeing commitment and then working everything else out in the wash? Do we not see how that immediately drives someone approaching it from a Red Pill perspective to take an adversarial approach? I mean, I think yes, you can make that mutually beneficial, but you then have to start talking about the things that RPW talk about, which are, in simple terms, what things women are w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 08:29 PM |
| 6 | "Relationships are a zero sum game" is an evolutionarily impossible phenomenon.There are plenty of terms that are used loosely or colloquially both in Blue Pill and Red Pill worlds, and we could pick fault with that, but nature abhors a pedant. The proper interpretation seems to be somewhere between "everything is war, the sky burns orange" and "sometimes we disagree". Specifically, also, he's talking in the quote in the OP about "sexual strategies", not relationships as a whole. Those aren't the same thing. It's a discussion of very widely known issues, such as sex-seekin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 04:48 PM |
| 11 | "Relationships are a zero sum game" is an evolutionarily impossible phenomenon.I think you're debating definitions here, more than facts. I'd agree that if you're going to frame "zero sum" as meaning specifically that, then no, of course there are many things that are of mutual benefit in a relationship, even if that's just that the wife ensures that her husband's clothes get ironed, and the husband ensures that she doesn't get kidnapped by Turks. I don't think most people mean it in that strict a sense, though. It seems to be more a sense where if you're living in a cultu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 01:56 PM |
| 2 | why is it that TRP supports trump unanimously ?I mean, do you not? This was the guy that was given the Nobel prize basically on the promise that he was going to fundamentally change American politics and American foreign policy, he was going to repair race relations and tackle inequality and bring back intellectualism to public debate and so on and so forth. And for his opponents, he was a Marxist Kenyan Muslim who was going to put people in death camps and rub his balls on the Washington Monument. And yet, the actual differences between him… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 10:22 PM |
| 5 | why is it that TRP supports trump unanimously ?I don't think all of them actually do, tbh, but at the moment it seems that Trump this time around has mastered what Obama did in 2008 in being able to hide behind a lot of aggressive rhetoric and platitudes in such a way as people can believe that he really represents them and is going to overthrow the old order and take up all of their pet causes. Remember when people thought that Obama being elected was a genuine watershed moment for American politics? And his opponents were talking about him… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/16 08:51 PM |
| 2 | Do Men Love Unconditionally?I agree, but a lot is intuited through observed effects. Men can't speak to how women feel, but they can observe what they do and don't do, and how that differs from their own instinctive behaviours. I don't think we should assume the models are different just for the sake of it, but nor should we assume that the models aren't different just because the opposite makes people uncomfortable. Maybe men's experiences really are different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/16 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Do Men Love Unconditionally?Eh, it's difficult to give scientific support to something that's discussing the fine nuances of individual men's experiences. I don't buy it as a risk-taking behaviour, though. If I decide that I'm in love with a stripper because her titties are the best titties, there's no risk there (unless I try and follow her home), it's just dumb brain stuff telling you to give her your rent money that you have to try and marginally keep under control lest you set yourself on fire once a week. A lot of bet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/16 06:11 PM |
| 5 | Do Men Love Unconditionally?When I read TRP talking about unconditional love, I'm pretty sure I get what they mean, but they're using it as a simplified term for something that's a bit more nebulous. I agree with other posters that actual unconditional love is pretty rare. There's a tendency when you're a man, and I see this especially in beta guys, but it's my own experience as well, to spend a relatively short time with a woman (specifically a physically attractive woman), or even to see a woman walking down the street, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/16 05:17 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP: How would you feel about your son having sexual consent lessons in public school? How would you talk to him about this?I wouldn't suggest there's anything inherently wrong about the concept, but I can't see any way it'd work usefully in practice. For a start, it'd have to be taught by teachers. Teachers are, as a species, 95% middle-aged women with personal problems, weird agendas, and almost no relationship with the real world. I was told plenty of spurious bullshit about things actually based in fact without introducing anything to do with gender and feminism. Secondly, it'd inevitably be written by committee … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/16 12:56 PM |
| 10 | Q4ALL: Are body standards too high for women and men?I want to take away the concept of "too high" for a minute, because I think it's slightly misleading and implies that somewhere out there there's a Grand High Arbiter Of Titties That Can Be On TV, and if only we convinced him that fat women weren't the human embodiment of failure, men would love them and everything would be ok. Measures of attractiveness do change over time, but they don't change like that. I actually think it's a deeper cultural problem, that cuts across both sexes and is very … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/16 05:33 PM |
| 6 | Question for Men: What features would you want in an alternative to TRP?Not him, but I do think the point he raises is key. I don't necessarily think TRP is the best forum on the internet, the dickwaving sometimes outpaces the actual content, but there's something very refreshing about having an explicitly male space that doesn't apologize for being so or endeavor to be less "threatening". There seems to be a tendency that whenever there's a male space that women must invade it, either because they resent the concept and believe they're being conspired against - or,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/16 11:17 AM |
| 8 | TRP loves generalizations and mainstream advice is good enough for the majority of people. So why is it considered bad advice?I'd suggest there's plenty of areas where "mainstream advice" is considered acceptable but is actually horseshit and where most people just muddle through. I mean, have you heard mainstream diet and fitness advice? It basically verges on a professional form of fraud, and yet a whole slew of people still manage to lose weight and to look nice for their beach holiday without really having any in-depth knowledge of what they're doing. Just because you can utilise bad advice to obtain mediocre resul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/16 01:17 PM |
| 7 | Q4RP: If you say you aren't a feminist what exactly do you mean?It means primarily that while I believe in equal legal rights, I don't believe that gender is a social construct. I believe that it's innate and biological and that the hormonal differences between men and women manifest themselves both physically and mentally in such a way that "true" equality is a useless concept here. Modern feminism is so ridiculously stratified that trying to determine a definition is like trying to nail jello to the wall, but almost all modern feminism seems to start from … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/16 08:29 PM |
| 1 | The Guardian does a whole article on TRP calling it "the heart of modern misogyny." Thoughts?In the Guardian? Nothing but clickbait, from sea to shining sea. If you wanted, you could read this sort of thing and immediately declare yourself redpill, but you have to come into it with the realization that print journalism is dying, and the new paradigm is to write controversial, foot-stompy articles that can be churned out in half an hour with little or no research or need for fact checking and that are going to get shared on Twitter for that sweet, sweet ad money. I'm not even bothered by… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/16 08:50 AM |
| 7 | BP: Can you link me what you consider to be mainstream/non extreme feminist sites?They generate about 4 times as much money as the men's team, yet the players are paid less. I can tell you prima facie that this right here is a "feminist" statistic, otherwise known as a lie with numbers in it. Considering that the men's league in the US is actually borderline successful, and the women's league has to have the federation subsidize most of the players' salaries to prevent it from going bankrupt again, I'm pretty sure we can assume that the big money isn't coming from the women's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/16 10:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Natural alphas do not treat women the way TRP proclaims alphas should treat womenI'm not sure what conclusions we should draw from this, other than that men who own $90m yachts and private airplanes have a high SMV without particularly having to try. I don't think we really need to call out Furlock Bones to get to the bottom of that case. I'm also assuming that they're significantly older than the TRP userbase, in which case I'm not particularly expecting a 50-year-old property lawyer to behave like a 26-year-old bass guitarist and to spend his nights trawling for hot teen s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/16 03:19 PM |
| 11 | Journalist looking to interview a reformed MRA2016, where investigative journalism involves reporting on twitter hashtags and deliberately publishing openly fraudulent and fatuous outrage articles to drive website visits and ad revenue What a time to be alive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Q4All Based on a post on the RPWives, what is your lifelong dream? Was it to get married and have a family?As a man, my dreams absolutely did not involve marriage or babies. They don't particularly involve being a champion NASCAR driver, either, though, I think that's a simplification. I absolutely get the point that's being made, though. In my experience, most men's dreams involve being important. Being significant. Being respected. Being leaders. Being champions. Breaking new ground. Exploring the unconquered frontier. I don't want to say that all men dream of being Caesar and Napoleon, because peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/16 06:00 PM |
| 2 | What's the deal with a woman stating that she is well-traveled/has travel as an interest being a red flag?Well, no doubt, I agree. I wouldn't intend to suggest to anyone that tourism is bad and not RP, as much as that I can picture exactly the sort of girl in question and it's the kind that basically means "I went to Barcelona once and took selfies" and talks about it like she's George Mallory. In contrast, someone who's genuinely interesting and isn't just defined by a general desire to consume will stand out like a sore thumb, because they'll be able to define this in a way beyond "I'm a middle-cl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/16 05:11 PM |
| 18 | What's the deal with a woman stating that she is well-traveled/has travel as an interest being a red flag?Where I've seen it, it's been less about the likelihood that she sucked all the dicks on the way to the airport, and more about the sheer crushing inanity of declaring "travel" as an interest. There's a certain base level of solipsism required to believe that participating in tourism (alongside virtually every other person of sufficient means on the planet) somehow makes you a fascinating character steeped in wonderful anecdotes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/16 06:24 AM |
| 14 | I was Banned from AskMRP for "You are not entitled to sex with your wife." CMV?The word "entitlement" is a huge problem when it comes to feminist discourse, and it's no surprise that people won't tolerate it and will tell you to get out. It's overwhelmingly used as a shaming tactic and a way to conflate things that people want or like or need and to make them sound as if those people are actually slave drivers or rapists. It's used as a way to say "how dare you complain about not having your needs met, there's no law that says you have to have your needs met", as if that w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/16 09:21 AM |
| 1 | Has Donald Trump proved that TRP is right, in that a dominant, sexually successful man commands respect from everyone?I think if there's one way you wouldn't describe Trump, it's as "commanding respect from everyone". Nor would RP theory be able to explain a Sarah Palin or a Marine Le Pen in the same model, who run broadly the same game but with tits. I think what he does show, though, is that you can actually do pretty much whatever you want and the sky isn't going to fall down on you. I think that element is very much a Red Pill lesson if you've spent your youth internalising the idea that you only get ahead … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/16 12:54 PM |
| 4 | Q4All: Is your relationship PC? Would reddit liberals tell your partner to dump you if he/she wrote a summary of you?Yep. You've figured out the secret of a group of people who believe that the secret to a better world is people burning bridges with anyone who isn't ideologically pure because they've got nothing themselves invested in these relationships and want to see "bad people" get their comeuppance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/16 07:35 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP: Is there any porn movie or video you actually found disgusting or degrading to women? Why?I think we need to be strict here about the definitions we use for things like "degrading" and "sex object". There tends otherwise to be an awkward feminist motte-and-bailey trick where a word that's true in one specific context is then generalised based to all other possible interpretations of that word. A lot of porn is quite intentionally degrading to women (and often to men, where there's an interest in that) in that context, since it's showing images of power and control rather than just th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/16 09:15 AM |
| 5 | Men are not raised properlyWhat evidence do we have that this would be a good thing, though? Exactly why, in empirical terms, has anyone decided that it's likely to be a positive benefit for men to not be taught to be men in the same way that thousands of generations before them were taught to be men, but instead to be wacky waving androgynous tubemen who can do whatever they want as long as they do a 9-5 in a cubicle? There's no study out there showing this is a great benefit to children or to men, it's simply driven by … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/16 03:11 PM |
| 2 | Question for RP: How much of your success is due to an effect similar to something like imagining your audience is naked?I think there's a lot of truth to that (and redpillers may likely say as much), but it goes deeper than just imagining the audience naked. You have to consider that the primary demographic for TRP is largely for young men who've fallen into traps they were never taught to get out of. The beta orbiters, the beta providers, the nice guys, and the dead bedroom marriages. As is always pointed out, TRP doesn't come along in the night to steal away happy boyfriends. It's built for men who've been let … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/16 09:10 PM |
| 19 | If being a woman was half as fun and easy as redpillers make it out to be.... well that would be fantastic.I agree with the general sentiment that life is kinda shitty for most people regardless of circumstance, but I do have a couple of friends: One is probably a natural 7, but scrubs up into more of an 8, but her social game is... Zeus tier. And that combination, it's like going for a night on the town with Derren Brown. It's absurd. She goes to sold-out events and talks her way in without paying. She ends up backstage doing free cocaine with the band. Recently she did, like, a three-day job for a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/16 10:29 PM |
| 1 | It should be made clear that RP applies to US societyThe UK is different, but the key factors are broadly the same. Have you seen the women football players date? Or the ones that'll let their favourite rock-star rape their kids? There's still no prize in Europe for being "smart" or "funny". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/16 11:54 AM |
| 2 | It should be made clear that RP applies to US societyGood lord, you manage to make Europe sound like an array of 12th century peasants scraping in the muck for mushrooms. There are some cultural differences, but people in the US don't actually live like you see on The OC, trust me. I've always come away from TRP with the idea that "Chad" is a metaphor, a nom de guerre. It's not necessarily the idea that Zyzz is the highest aspiration of man, but rather that guy who everyone meets who seems to just barrel through all of the normal rules of social a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/16 08:16 AM |
| 2 | Is there any positive advice for men besides TRP?Like every Friday a soccer match, or going swimming twice a week, or going climbing, or playing volleyball or going skateboarding,... Not doing anything is considered weird. Again, I appreciate "Europe" is a broad term here, but I haven't the slightest idea what kind of Ivy League law school you went to that people went climbing once a week. When I went to college, what we mainly did was get fucked up on weed, vodka and pills. That was what you did, for the majority of the time, and then nobody … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/16 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Are women more harsh on body image than men?Definitely. If you're not sure, go up to a magazine rack and look at the rows and rows of magazines for women that essentially exist to call celebrities ugly. Women will spend actual cash money to see pictures of people they don't actually know going to get a bagel at 6am without makeup or whatever the fuck, and then will go home and post on the internet that the patriarchy has undermined their self-esteem. Not one men's magazine exists for that purpose. Not one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/16 08:50 PM |
| 2 | Is there any positive advice for men besides TRP?As someone from Europe, I can confirm that 90% of college-aged men do not "do sports", unless you grew up in some Lithuanian backwater where everyone's constantly jacked up on caffeine and horsemeat. I'm sure that 90%+ of men watch sports, or talk about sports, and some smaller but reasonable fraction play occasional pick-up games where nobody really runs because that's some tryhard shit. The number of people I knew who were actually fit, who trained and took shit seriously, I could count on one… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/16 08:26 PM |
| 4 | [Discussion] In your opinion, who has it better?This is always a pretty difficult question to answer as there's so much nuance to it, but I think the upshot of it is that the two are pretty much equal in comparison to the myriad other distinctions that exist in society, class being at the forefront. It seems like a lot of the growth of anti-feminism is less about the idea that women have it "better", but rather a rejection of the utter solipsism of well-off women complaining about completely trivial things that basically boil down to "shit yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/16 06:22 PM |
| 4 | If TRP isn't misogynistic, why aren't they officially against hate speech?Even as a leftist, the term "hate speech" seems to be a regressive-left dogwhistle idea for selective censorship while maintaining an illusion of open dialogue. It's left as such a nebulous and broad term that it's basically just a declaration that your right to a platform exists at the whim of the moderator of that platform. This seems to be an absolute cancer on any space that's dominated by women, and I can't help but see exactly where TRP accuses women of "feels over reals" when literally ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/16 05:21 PM |
| 21 | The end goal of SJWs is to replace religion (which is currently dying painfully) as the new unquestionable rules of moralityThis comes across as far too much of a conspiracy for my tastes. The end goal of SJWs (who are generally dumpy, plain women with mood disorders and low-maintenance haircuts) is for them to feel super important, validated, and part of a community, and to have an ability to believe that all of their personal problems are somehow the fault of a big white boogeyman which they will fight with the power of friendship (read: bully the weakest members of groups they don't like by co-opting other people'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/16 08:18 PM |
| 3 | X-Post from TBP: why TRP has to radicalize to stay on topIsn't that it, though? You can see the problems, I can see the problems, but the problems get ignored in favor of millionaires speaking at the UN about the tragedy of women sometimes being described as "bossy", and the Pravda-esque spiel in the OP. Feminism is a sideshow, and a distraction for the benefit of the upper-middle class, explicitly at the expense of young and working-class men. Saying that someone, somewhere, might believe in "intersectionality" is not a sufficient compromise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/16 07:24 PM |
| 3 | Men with a high N are more likely to rapeWell, one, unless someone can show me a reasonable narrative of events that would actually make Ted Kennedy a murderer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/16 07:30 PM |
| 4 | Freakbeast vs. Otter body; How much muscle is optimal for men?That's just... not true. Charles Atlas looked like shit compared to the best natty bodybuilders today. You say that like that's not because modern natural bodybuilding is infested with frauds. But I do actually agree, I think Atlas doesn't look as good as a lot of people who came before him, people like Sandow and Hackenschmidt, and I don't want to hold him up as the absolute pinnacle of the sport. He is, however, at the top end of what's achievable. I use him as an example more because you can … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/16 09:54 PM |
| 3 | Freakbeast vs. Otter body; How much muscle is optimal for men?As in, nowhere are you going to get more pushback on the idea that you can't be a lean 220lbs naturally than from that guy who's in his first year of training. That's 100% not what they want to hear, so they'll bitch and moan and call you a liar, tell you you're jealous, and show you pictures of guys who are clearly on drugs, and when their noob gains start running down they'll chuck a bunch of money at worthless crap because it's got Greg Plitt promoting it. I've sort of come to the conclusion … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/16 07:27 PM |
| 7 | Freakbeast vs. Otter body; How much muscle is optimal for men?The idea that Ronnie Coleman is on drugs is admittedly not a surprise to anyone, ever. What people seem to struggle with is the bit in the middle. It always amazes me when women talk about how they want an 170lbs ottermode guy with cut abs and then they're surprised that he does six days a week in the gym and has his food in tupperware containers ready for the next week (and bloo bloo bloo he can't take me to dinner). That's where that is. That's what it looks like. It's not one game a week of p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/16 02:12 PM |
| 6 | Freakbeast vs. Otter body; How much muscle is optimal for men?For a natural in normal lighting, I'd actually say that's pretty good. Here lies the difference between genuine natural and Youtube natural. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/16 01:54 PM |
| 3 | Redpill men, what are the most repulsive traits you find in women?I think there's a distinction here between fault in terms of causative and influencing factors and fault in terms of agency. An example here is that you can get fat, and you can point out how from childhood you've basically been forcibly addicted to sugar, how you're continually marketed get-rich-quick diet schemes and nonsense mom-science because there's no money in chicken breast and green veg, how cheap food is stuffed with sugar, salt and cheap carbs, and you'd be right about all of it. And … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/16 09:19 PM |
| 5 | Do you have any beliefs that are "too redpill" even for mainstream TRP?That seems like a much wider philosophical question than you're intending it to be. What makes anyone's authority legitimate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/16 10:40 PM |
| 2 | What is the meaning behind our sexual fantasies/fetishes?I'm pretty sure written erotica isn't being consumed by men. If incest is best, it's women that are chasing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/16 05:24 PM |
| 15 | [discussion] what do you think about this article on men's space in/out of feminism?I'd agree with it, in part. I have to say, I've never seen a genuine space be provided for men's issues and men's involvement in feminism, and I don't think I ever will. It's too threatening to a lot of feminist doctrine, which, without wanting to be blunt about it, is tolerated even though it's complete bunk. It's too threatening to people with victim complexes and an insistence on describing women as a "class", as if Marx wouldn't roll over in his grave. A huge chunk of feminist discourse is b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/16 08:40 AM |
| 9 | RPers, are there aspects of TRP you would like to see change? Feminists, are there aspects of feminism you'd like to see change?The thing I've noticed with AWALT is that it's used interchangeably between two separate ideas. One is that all (or at least, most) women are biologically or culturally primed to respond to certain stimuli, and the secret to sexual attraction is to be able to hit those triggers instead of trying to be kind or funny or to share her hobbies. Your dream girl isn't a unicorn, she wants what other women want. Fine. The second context is where some lunatic cunt is sat banging on your door and trying t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/16 09:08 PM |
| 5 | Feminists, if the Men's Rights Movement is toxic, how would you suggest men's issues get resolved?Does it help men with issues that are important to them? Or does is it just a group of women picking things that men "should" care about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/16 10:25 PM |
| 1 | On the use of the word 'faggot'It's a moving bit, but it should probably be pointed out that the story he's telling is an urban legend. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(slang) The American slang term is first recorded in 1914, the shortened form fag shortly after, in 1921.[8] Its immediate origin is unclear, but it is based on the word for "bundle of sticks", ultimately derived, via Old French, Italian and Vulgar Latin, from Latin fascis.[8][9] The word faggot has been used in English since the late 16th century as an ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/16 11:12 AM |
| 1 | If men's sexual attraction is almost entirely about looks, why does so much porn have plots and/or characters?As someone with a porn habit that frequently edges into "requires intervention" territory, your premise here isn't actually true and hasn't been true since about the early 90s. Once upon a time they used to make cheesy porn flicks with actual plot and bad acting and all the stereotypes. Then at some point, and with porn becoming more mainstream, there was a realization that it was a lot cheaper and easier to mass-produce "gonzo" porn. You find a nice house in LA as a backdrop, do a 5-10 minute i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/16 09:50 AM |
| 2 | What do TRP peeps think about feminism encouraged in 3rd world countries with extremely high gender inequalities?I'd suggest that where it's a question of individual liberty, women not being officially regarded as property and all that jazz, there's really no reason to object to that. Everything else is sort of dependent upon context and circumstance, which makes it difficult to give a "feminism good" or "feminism bad" answer to that. A lot of the time feminism in the developing world seems to be neo-liberalism in a dress, where the end goal is not to do anything particularly productive for women, but simp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/16 02:26 PM |
| 6 | Discussion: 'Nice Guy' shaming drives people to TRPThis is an extreme paradigm that, I'm sorry, I just don't see playing out in real life very often. If you do see it playing out so often that you consider it the norm, you need to arrange a group visit with your female friends to a domestic violence shelter, because this is not normal. Of course. I'm using an extreme (although not particularly unheard of) example to illustrate the point that most men in that situation have discovered, which is that when push comes to shove, everything except att… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/16 08:54 PM |
| 11 | Discussion: 'Nice Guy' shaming drives people to TRPI think the analogy has really gone too far, because there's no way any ad for any job lists the ONLY requirements as being honest and reliable. Just as nobody, when they say, "I want a nice guy" is implying that they'll sleep with anybody who just happens to be nice. I was trying to drive home the point that meeting the most basic requirement of human decency does not mean that you meet all criteria somebody may have for a romantic partner. Away from the analogy, I think there's an important po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/16 08:14 PM |
| 22 | Discussion: 'Nice Guy' shaming drives people to TRPWell, it would be misleading, by definition. If you put an ad in the paper stressing that you're looking for an honest, reliable employee, and I spend an hour at interview giving examples of how honest and reliable I am before being told at the end that what you actually wanted was someone who can code C++ and has a post-grad history degree, and that being honest and reliable is just kinda desirable but not really important at all in the grand scheme of things, I'd absolutely tell you that you'v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/16 07:22 PM |
| 1 | The success of Donald Trump - sign of an increasingly Redpill society?Oh, by no means would I want to suggest that Trump literally couldn't win, just that senior Republicans know that he's not an ideal candidate to take into a general election. If the argument is that Trump's best shot is for the Democrats to implode into petty infighting or for him to make borderline slanderous comments about his opponents that are somehow believed by the press (I mean, they may even be true, but until Trump could back any of that up with hard evidence, I'd see him only coming of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/16 10:41 PM |
| 1 | The success of Donald Trump - sign of an increasingly Redpill society?I'm thinking very much of what happened (and is still happening) with the election of Jeremy Corbyn, with the rise of the SNP and the Greens, and with Farage and UKIP on the right. Labour party members were so utterly bored of being presented with middle-ground, "electable" candidates that they en-masse elected the token classical leftist candidate, and the response from the party overseers was to try and cancel the entire leadership election. Cameron maintains the support of the right-wing only… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/16 11:32 PM |
| 2 | The success of Donald Trump - sign of an increasingly Redpill society?I don't think it's anything particularly new. Aggressively controversial right-wing populists have been around for a long time. Remember that Sarah Palin was Donald Trump before Trump was, and she made the smart play to get out while the getting was good, rather than run seriously and face the sharp end of the wedge. Trump has the same problem Palin did. He's fantastically popular among his core base. When you run him against any Democrat in a head-to-head opinion poll, he loses badly. He's some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/16 06:51 PM |
| 6 | Women, entitlement in relationships, and how this relates to nice guys.I'd strongly recommend reading No More Mr Nice Guy, if you haven't already. I'd think that large chunks of it are relevant to women in the same boat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/16 08:28 PM |
| 3 | Discussion: Analysis of a top TRP postWell, gee, yes, he could sure approach this from a less beta position. But the starting point for that is throwing the cunt out of his life like he's visualizing pushing an anvil out of a Cessna. It's not as if you have to pick an either/or, here. Maybe I'm more Red Pill than I think if it's now "extremist" to tell someone to dump a girl who couldn't announce any more loudly that she's a golddigger unless she showed up with a pickaxe and a shirt saying "AIN'T MESSIN' WITH NO BROKE NIGGAS"... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/16 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Is it possible that the entire identity politics game is manufactured by the elites to divide the people and create enough entropy and hostility to leave them dependent on centralised 'democratic' authority?There are some good ideas here, but you need to be careful about the context in which they're framed. The answer to most problems is normally deeper than is portrayed in the mainstream, but it's certainly not, "some Jews did it". There's no conspiracy. There's no Illuminati, no New World Order, no bankers under the earth, and no (direct) worship of Moloch. Jet fuel can melt steel beams. In many ways, the problem is more insidious than that. Rather, the machine feeds itself. Money trickles up. Po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/16 08:46 PM |
| 2 | CMV/Prediction: Hillary Clinton will win the presidency due to women's simple mindednessAs far as I'm aware, this doesn't hold true when you start to look at polling figures. Possibly to some extent, but the proportion of women who'll vote with their genitals would likely have been strong Democratic voters anyway. It's certainly not as clear-cut as, say, the shift for blacks towards Obama. If you'd asked me a year ago, I'd have said that Hillary was going to lose in the general, and likely get Nader-ed by a third-party picking up big chunks of Bernie voters. American politics works… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/16 10:30 AM |
| 6 | PPD: **Is the feminist/liberal imperative saturating into Sherlock’s BBC Christmas Special now? (WARNING: SPOILERS)Sherlock is written by Steven Moffatt, who is also the show lead for Doctor Who. He's basically the head cheerleader for "women are wonderful", and it's a theme through everything he's done. The other thing he loves to do is to whip through the story so fast that you don't notice how many holes there are in it or that nothing important is actually being accomplished (the Sherlock special was really bad for this). Doctor Who, in turn, is defined by its two lead writers since the reboot, and their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 08:23 AM |
| 10 | This is what feminism is and has always been, right back to the birth of the suffrage movementI don't know where the term "brainwashed" comes from, it's nowhere in my post. I'd certainly say that women can and do reach those positions. The leader of arguably the most powerful country in Europe is a woman, and has been for some time. Great Britain had a woman as leader for over a decade. The US will probably have the chance to vote for a female President, assuming that nobody in the Democratic party can find a pleasant or likeable candidate in the next six months (I won't even mention Pal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/16 12:10 AM |
| 18 | This is what feminism is and has always been, right back to the birth of the suffrage movementWorkplaces are not family friendly. Women are often expected to take on full time work, plus be the ones to stay at home with sick kids, plus be the ones to do most of the housework, plus do most of the caring for children. Yep. That's economics. That's the same economics that's given feminism most of its actual victories. When all of the European leaders got together to discuss how to solve the PIIGS crisis, one of the big outcomes they came up with was getting more women into work. That's not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/16 11:46 PM |
| 31 | This is what feminism is and has always been, right back to the birth of the suffrage movementA lot of what you've just written seems to hinge on this idea that feminism is vital as long as women don't make up 50% of the people in positions of power and influence (note that this phrase is far too utterly vague and generalised to be useful in any practical way). This is simply false, and most intelligent people and even intelligent feminists know that it's false and that it's just a canard to justify whatever pointless and horrific thing people who publically identify as "feminists" are d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/16 10:38 PM |
| 1 | "Fancy that. Noam Chomsky was right about porn."Well, gee, if Noam Chomsky said it... I mean, who even cares at the best of times? It's more of the same old, same old, where middle-class feminists throw other women and their choices under the bus so that they somehow can feel like victims themselves and that they're getting one over on the big scary white man, and the religious right pretends to care very deeply about issues of exploitation for exactly as long as it takes to ban something they don't like for completely separate reasons. Tedio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/16 10:16 AM |
| 2 | The "Nordic model" on prostitution proves that modern day feminism has nothing to do with equal rights for women and everything to do with restricting male sexuality and men's access to sexThis simply isn't true. The way to protect women would be to legalize and regulate it. Every time I've seen this, it's been groups who work on behalf of prostitutes saying explicitly that, that it should be legal, and then some middle-class feminist shouting them down and telling them that they're too stupid to know what they want. It's exactly illegal because there's an ideological aversion to prostitution, whether that comes from the religious right or from women who are uncomfortable with it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/16 08:23 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] RP is Anti-Feminist ActivismAssuming we're talking exclusively about Red Pill in this context (as opposed to somewhere like 4chan where it basically means hitlerdidnothingwrong.txt and isn't really related), I'm pretty sure the origin story for the whole shebang is that it was a splinter group from a seduction/PUA community. It makes a lot more sense in that regard that it's about men looking for something they're not getting elsewhere rather than a devilishly underhanded political movement. The anti-feminist stuff just co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/16 11:26 PM |
| 2 | [CMV] RP is Anti-Feminist ActivismThink horses not zebras, here. I mean, yes, Red Pill could be a complex form of political activism, but it's more likely that at its heart, it's what men say it is. It's a set of resources for men who've found that they've fallen for women time and time again, done all the "right things" that women ask for and are shown to them through the media, and found that they get treated like losers and cuckolds. Who are greeted with platitudinous advice about "having confidence" and "being yourself" beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/16 10:52 PM |
| 3 | Woman perfectly describes why men should not get marriedIt doesn't necessarily negate the point, but I feel the need to point out that there should be a caveat here that the Daily Mail is clickbaity as fuck and features giant swathes of awful WASPy lifestyle articles for awful WASPy women to cluck over. The lack of self-awareness is as much a deliberate editorial choice as anything else. Why any woman anywhere would want to read this sort of thing, or a hundred other articles of the most vacuous nonsense about what sort of dresses c-list celebrities … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/15 01:39 PM |
| 1 | What's your opinion or thoughts on BodyBuilders?For the kind of guy you posted, literally Phil Heath, I don't think it really factors into a lot. The number of women who are into the mass monster look is pretty small, men patently don't go to those sorts of levels in order to impress women, and there's probably not more than a few hundred guys globally who are even in that ballpark. That said, a big pet peeve of mine is that there's a sliding scale of being a bodybuilder and being on steroids that women don't get, and think you just show up a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/15 01:33 PM |
| 1 | "Preventing rape" is idealistic, childish unrealistic pie-in-the-sky. "Prosecuting and punishing rape in courts of law" is a real thing and should be the goal of a pragmatic "feminism"I like that you completely ignored the point here and turned it into an overwrought strawman where if you're not marching around in your underwear it means rape is OK. There's no acceptable number of rapes, but nor is there an acceptable number of thefts, or an acceptable number of murders. There are certainly some societal factors here, but ultimately part of being an adult is recognizing that human nature means these are always going to be things that happen. Wandering around with a sign sayin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/15 08:00 PM |
| 4 | If men should not have to pay child support (for their biological offspring)I've read all of the threads and I can't remember one instance of someone arguing for the right to bail out at any point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/15 10:47 PM |
| 0 | Scenario for discussion regarding unwanted/ unplanned pregnancyWell, it'd be nice if people were actually required to know something about parenting before deciding to have a child and spend the next two decades ruining it piece by piece, but that's now into silly levels of bureaucratic oversight and statism. What I'm asking for is more like basic dignity and morality when having a child. Don't deliberately have a baby that you know you're immediately going to put at a disadvantage and for which you have no tangible means of support, purely to sate your own… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/15 10:32 PM |
| 0 | Scenario for discussion regarding unwanted/ unplanned pregnancyThe woman has the option to abort or seek an adoption, and so completely has the ability to make an informed choice about her own ability to raise the child. If she chooses to keep it and isn't in an agreed relationship where a child is welcome, it shouldn't be anyone else's responsibility to pay for her decision. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/15 10:23 PM |
| 0 | Scenario for discussion regarding unwanted/ unplanned pregnancyHow does it incentivize predatory behaviour? You hardly need to incentivize people to be sexually aggressive, that's a biological thing. It seems more like you want to tacitly punish people for having casual sex, which is fine, but you may as well say that openly. Also the bit about how men should take all the responsibility because men are bad and women are victims of the bad men. Just open straight up with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/15 10:16 PM |
| 2 | Scenario for discussion regarding unwanted/ unplanned pregnancyThat's fine, but surely it should be the other way around. If you choose to have sex outside of marriage, why shouldn't you have to ask any potential partner to sign to be financially liable if you get pregnant? That seems far fairer to all parties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/15 06:52 PM |
| 0 | Scenario for discussion regarding unwanted/ unplanned pregnancyThis opinion doesn't win me many friends amongst daytime TV viewers, but I believe it's absolutely immoral to have a child unless both parents agree at the outset that it's what they want and they're willing to bear the responsibility. I'd like really to narrow that down further, to children that are specifically planned, but I'd accept that there are a reasonable number of cases where the child is unplanned but not necessarily unwanted by either partner. Anything else is unfair on both the chil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/15 06:47 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The odds of being falsely accused of rape are so low its not worth worrying about.The world doesn't simply consist of victimless crimes and then also rapes. Guilty people going free for other crimes is no better or worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/15 07:22 AM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on male-female best friends?Of course not... you can be platonic friends with ugly people. And dogs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/15 09:00 PM |
| 2 | Bloopers: What is your response to "yea but it works"?In fairness, I've never read that as meaning "there's no moral imperative when it comes to sex, do whatever you want" and more, "you're an adult, we'll present you with the information, use it however you think most appropriate". I could start a subreddit that told people how to make pipebombs at home, and I'd posit that there's nothing inherently immoral about that, it's up to the individual at the other end to choose to use that information in a way that they consider either moral or immoral a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 06:40 PM |
| 9 | According to feminist research standards 50+% of women are rapistsI was replying to a big ol' post with you specifically saying it doesn't happen, can't happen, and having lots of laughs about it. Of course, does the suggestion that we should take sexual assault against men seriously validate the idea that 50% of women are rapists? Of course it doesn't. Rather, that's a statement about the absurdly broad definitions of rape that feminists want to draw for entirely political reasons, and which do nothing except to undermine true victims. You can actually hold b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 07:36 PM |
| 9 | According to feminist research standards 50+% of women are rapistsRather than argue hypotheticals, I'd recommend you read the top-level posts from these threads: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/27axwi/serious_men_who_have_been_raped_by_women_what/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/v73r4/men_who_have_been_raped_by_women_can_you_tell_us/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3g0ius/seriousmen_and_boys_who_have_been_raped_sexually/ For shits and giggles, make a mental note of just how few are reported, and the reactions to the ones tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Which culture do you think will end up being more dominant ?I don't believe that Islam has any redeeming features at all, but at the same time the idea that Europe is somehow going to be conquered by Islam is almost entirely nonsense that's peddled by far-right groups, Israeli groups who want to deflect criticism from Europe, and other people intent on race-baiting. For context, we can take the population of the UK as ~70m. Around 3m of those are labelled as Muslim. This is almost entirely an ethnic descriptor and basically means "Pakistani or Bangladesh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/15 09:18 PM |
| 1 | When the Red Pill happiness formula doesn't work?The question here seems to be what, exactly, you want? Do you want to be single? Do you want to suck strange dick in truckstop bathrooms? Do you want to be an astronaut? Do you want to write a thrilling biography of Napoleon Bonaparte? Do you just want an excuse to go lie down in the dirt and not have anyone bother you any more? It's very hard for the internet to solve your problems if your problems aren't particularly defined beyond a vague sense of ennui. What needs do you have here that aren'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/15 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth?I'd honestly say that there are a lot of overlapping reasons, and it's not something you can boil down to a two-sentence explanation of "why ISIS is a thing". I think you're dangerously close, though, to something that Sam Harris talks about a lot, where people from secular backgrounds assume that religious fundamentalists don't really believe the things they're saying are true, and it's just not the case. I'd be quite happy to speculate that most of the people fighting for ISIS are quite earnes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 09:07 AM |
| 2 | Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth?It seems like you're being very selective about what you're describing as a "masculine" society, in order to fit a narrative. It would be fairly asinine to describe Ancient Greece or Rome as "hell on earth", or as illiterate and un-fun, but women in these societies probably had less power than they would in a modern ISIS territory. Particularly in Athens, where women were ostensibly property. That's not to say, of course, that those were ideal societies, but it's some way removed from a bunch of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 12:57 PM |
| 1 | Are there any legitimate reasons about why women,as a group, shouldn't be allowed to vote ?I don't think there's any reasonable answer to this that comes up with the idea that all men and no women should be allowed to vote. Most of the arguments I've seen in here are more of the Dark Enlightenment nature, where suffrage for everyone is a terrible idea and we should go back to... something else. I'd be tempted to a agree with that in some aspects, the upshot of modern democracy appears to be what you have in California, where the public will earnestly go to the polls and pass one resol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 09:09 AM |
| 2 | All Pills what is your advice to avoid being a side guy/side bitch?To be fair, that's not just a women thing, though. One of the big themes in No More Mr Nice Guy is this idea of "covert contracts". Which is where people are taught from childhood to feel guilty or uncomfortable actually asking for what they need, so instead they go around doing X for people on the understanding that those people should implicitly realise that they should give them Y in return. Hence why women will have casual sex and then get angry that it doesn't turn into a relationship, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 08:50 AM |
| 8 | For women who find TRP men undesirable: do you find TRP itself objectionable or do you see TRp'ers as blind followers of a fixed formula?I think the problem a lot of men will raise with this, when you start making these distinctions, is that it basically becomes "well, I want you to have emotions, but not scary confusing ones that don't show up in romantic movies". So you end up not being open as much as creating some Pravda-approved version of your actual feelings that a woman can then cope with. It becomes an argument at cross-purposes, because what men mean by "emotionally vulnerable" and what women mean by "emotionally vulner… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men prefer to shit on competent women instead of learning from them?There's nothing that says "important insight into gender" like petty videogame squabbles over who has the coolest imaginary sword. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Redpillers: do you think feminists are unhappy and unfulfilled?I think a lot of unhappy people end up becoming feminists, rather than the other way around. There's a reason that most feminist spaces have an open-door policy for various groups of unhealthy and damaged people and then institute rules that basically say that nobody is allowed to feel sad or criticized, and if they do, it's due to a conspiracy of invisible men holding them down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/15 10:20 AM |
| 1 | Feminization of the western world; what, why, and how?I find that it's less of an expressly "feminizing" force as it is a "neutering" one. The other would suggest that feminists have real power or have accomplished anything of value in the last 50 years. They haven't, except where it's been economically expedient for the powers that be. When you get down to brass tacks, you don't have more women in the workplace because women fought to be there, you have more women in the workplace because it was necessary to expand the system. Now a two-income fam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/15 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Why I am RPFor what it's worth, I think you're missing a trick when it comes to what some people do believe. They're not saying that it never occurred to them that being Johnny Craterface might not be ideal for dating, they're saying that for years and years they were exposed to media that said that you could overcome that by being the guy who cares more about the girl. TRP is the first time someone's put it to them in black and white that most women would rather go home with a 9/10 that actively ignores t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/15 07:11 PM |
| 2 | Why do TRPillers involve politics in a sub about sexual strategy ?Because the first rule of voting for Ron Paul is telling everybody else how dumb they are for not voting for Ron Paul. I'm honestly kind of curious why more people don't make a point of looking at strong male societies of the past - Greeks and Romans that valued identity, education and culture, and which overwhelmingly involved a strong sense of common purpose and loyalty to the state - rather than retreating behind Cold War propaganda that says that somehow free markets will fix things that are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/15 10:09 PM |
| 4 | What is the feminine/feminist narrative? What are it's flaws? Does it benefit society? What "narrative" would you prefer for society?In my experience, the major dividing line between (most) feminists and (most) MRA groups is the idea of gender as a social construct. This is the bedrock of most academic feminism of the last thirty years and basically says that the idea of gender is foisted upon children at a young age and that they're therefore made to fit into a model designed in some bygone feudalist era rather than living out their destiny as androgynous star children or some other shit. This is based on the square root of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/15 09:53 PM |
| 2 | Not lifting.Gee, that's great, but as an adult I have to go to work in the mornings and they haven't invented hoverboards yet. That said, yes, somehow I manage not only to work full-time, travel there and back, work out three times a week, do a sport for a further three sessions a week, socialise, and still have time to argue stupid bullshit on the internet for hours on end. So I have very little time for people who are somehow "too busy" to do any research or to get in shape. And honestly, no. Other than v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/15 01:14 AM |
| 3 | Not lifting.It's hardly relevant to anything, but if anyone does care, I commute about an hour each way and picked my gym specifically so that it'd be more or less on that route (helps to live in a city for that, I guess). It'd convert to about $40-45 per month. I'm quite happy with all of the above as a money and time investment, and would happily recommend it to anyone looking to improve their health and physique over and above doing Hindu squats while playing Xbox or whatever half-effort shit people want… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 07:04 PM |
| 7 | Not lifting.The point I'm driving towards is that I've found that people have completely unrealistic understandings and expectations of male bodies, mostly because they've spent thirty years looking at men who take supplemental hormones (steroids) and think that you work out for six months and turn into Hulk Hogan. But that's not actually what happens, and I don't believe that anyone in TRP is suggesting that Rich Piana is the apex of male SMV. A man with a natural hormone profile simply isn't going to look… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 06:47 PM |
| 5 | Not lifting.I mean... I could do that, and I could also fill a rucksack with sand and do lunges while I walk to the photocopier, but instead of that, I found this awesome building where they let you exercise with actual equipment and where you don't hold up traffic three times a week to look like Forrest Gump's hillbilly cousin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGLzm-Gy0dQ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 06:23 PM |
| 7 | Not lifting.Well, yes, gee, if you spend three hours a week on self-improvement, that's three hours a week you can't spend watching Little House On The Prarie reruns, or hoarding scat porn. I've never actually met anyone in the first world, of any age, that couldn't spare three hours a week to do something rewarding to develop themselves, it's just that they'd rather waste their time on stuff that doesn't matter. But ok, if you want a special snowflake medal, I'm happy to concede that if you live in the mou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 06:00 PM |
| 8 | Not lifting.The most circlejerked programmes in /r/Fitness are generally ones that involve 45-60 minute workouts, three times a week. There's literally zero reason for people not to be able to continue that indefinitely except laziness and apathy. The idea that you can do any fitness activity for twenty minutes a week and have it be effective or meaningful is idiocy that's sold to fat women so they can hamster away the amount of cupcakes and booze they shove into their mouths. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 05:33 PM |
| 2 | Not lifting.I'd be interested to hear what you feel are "natural" forms of physical exercise, and examples of the better bodies they create, to be honest. I have the suspicion that you've confused "lifting" with "being Brock Lesnar", which is the equivalent of telling women never to exercise because men don't find marathon runners attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 05:25 PM |
| 9 | Not lifting.I'm pretty sure these studies are working on the basis of calories burned during exercise. It's clearly true that doing a few sets of bench press is not in and of itself going to cost more calories than half an hour of playing squash. The benefit comes later, where the muscle growth and muscle repair that happens over the subsequent 48 hours or so results in that individual's metabolic rate being significantly higher. There's a reason /r/Fitness is basically a weightlifting sub, and I don't thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/15 05:15 PM |
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