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misandryhousehubbyintraining/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/23 12:54 PM
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educationhousehubbyintraining/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/23 01:33 PM
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progresshousehubbyintraining/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/23 06:17 PM
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social mediahousehubbyintraining/r/EverydayMisandry30/05/24 12:28 AM
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discussionhousehubbyintraining/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 06:19 PM
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Edu./Occu.househubbyintraining/r/MensRights19/08/23 03:20 PM
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discussionhousehubbyintraining/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/23 06:33 PM
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social issueshousehubbyintraining/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/23 01:18 AM
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discussionhousehubbyintraining/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/24 02:08 PM
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Anti-MRMhousehubbyintraining/r/MensRights29/06/23 05:30 PM
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social mediahousehubbyintraining/r/EverydayMisandry01/06/24 10:43 PM
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Edu./Occu.househubbyintraining/r/MensRights07/01/23 04:12 PM
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discussionhousehubbyintraining/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/24 08:27 PM
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Would you rather be white or black? As a white person you will have a better experience with any institution than black folk. Why are MRAs so bad on race discourse? I had an argument in the past with an MRA moderator who screamed about how bad therapy is for men because feminist and wokism. And then I pointed out a study that showed black women having worst experience then white women in therapy and that non-whites in general have a worst time with therapy. clearly being white (non-black in gene…
/r/MensRights07/08/24 12:17 PM
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same, i dont use the word pick me but holy shit is he one of those arrogant ones
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/24 11:32 PM
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he's also a hypocrite like most male feminist, who talks about t*x!c masculinity and "flexes" that he lives the "ideal middle class life with a house, a wife, and two kids" in contrast to those other black manospherians who "complain about women".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/24 11:29 PM
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Well, never made it about women, I thought women "dating out of their league" was the topic, but I guess its about women now. and no, most dudes struggle because they have social anxiety, ptsd, autism, disabilities, etc. Not because "i dont wanna date becky!". By contrast to women who don't suffer in ways that are unique beyond pregnancy and weaker bones and thinner skin. U cant have 1 gender do all the onset reproductive labor and expect the other to have reasonable complaints in the sex initia…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:09 PM
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no this is normie brain rot and "never been used in my ife" behavior. Some dudes are just skeeting and yeeting, and with women, some women just want a foodie call or a temp. So nah, most ppl are not dating in their league, they are usually getting used. If women dated in their lane, a lot of online complaints that come out of them e.g. "men don't know how to commit" "men can't do relationships" "men only value me for my looks" etc. Would go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:10 PM
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bro, thats what you call a bad study if you not taking into account all factors such as men not working and women not working and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:51 PM
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but what I see is that it is mostly other men who can never stop to babble about how "biology" forces them to try to fuck everything that moves and that rapist "reproduced more" and yada yada i feel this is the internet at play because the "all men are geneticaly wired to rape" crowd seems more prominent in a academia. There's characters like, I think his name is richard wrangham who has made implicit arguments of men being inherently evil. There is also a book titled "a naturalistic history of …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:04 PM
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and the reason men are oppressed in afghanistan is because one guy saw a women bend over, and the reason american men are less violent is because men are exposed to estrogen in the water
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:46 PM
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If you interpret it one way, it comes off as femcel schizo-posting You understand that in such groups, refusing to mate with the top male result in being killed or having your illegitimate offsprings killed right? The women who did also didn't survive to reproduce. Then we invented marriage and patriarchy to force women to breed with males as a cooperative sharing of resources. But I was triggered by the other female that the guy you were responding to was commenting under. Thas why my interpret…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:36 PM
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can I get a citation on this claim? What is up with evopsyche girls and trying to portray men as genetically subhuman. I get i have a y chromesome but jesus. My understanding of why patriarchy comes into existence is because of economy. In societies where males provide more to the children through hunting/warfare those societies tend to lean patrilineal, vice versa for gathering. In africa, pastorialist groups (mobile herders) are often patrilineal an exception to this are the Tuareg who have hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:15 PM
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benevolent sexism was the thing the produced all the worst aspects of feminism today. All because it equates to: any form of treatment of women that differs from "how we treat men" is an oppression against women. Now give this theory to a vulnerable narc and what you get is modern day feminism.
/r/MensRights19/06/24 12:41 PM
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bruv, this is all of feminism. Feminist stem from white supremacy, The hardships by Sarah Champone is classified as "proto-feminist". Born fron white supremacy always white supremacist All feminist disadvantage all men, yes, all feminist
/r/MensRights18/06/24 02:36 AM
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Please stay civil in the comments. 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
/r/MensRights18/06/24 02:28 AM
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the field of psychology, sociolgy, and anthroplogy have been dead for a while. You're looking at one of the reasons why.
/r/MensRights18/06/24 02:26 AM
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I don't think you've read the comments, most of them agree with me. Most these guys don't care. You are one of those MRAs who wants to treat twitter posts as men's greatest concern. heteronormative" male sexual desire is condemned, considering it impure and objectifying, and the rest is mostly lauded. there are feminist who are pro-dick pics. Get offline more and talk to more ppl and stop talking for all men. No one suffers but straight men., i asked for you to be honest and admit this doesn't e…
/r/MensRights17/06/24 11:10 AM
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??? what double standard? Are we looking at the same thing? Do miss americas not exist anymore? Do female pornstars not exist? Bro, if anything this is egalitarianism. You think this went on in the 1940s buddy? (body building is not the same and actually seems to inspire men and not make them feel outmatched). Stop making it more than what it is, this is just straight dudes being mad that they have to look at naked dudes. I, the local bi, do not feel objectified. So don't try imposing this gende…
/r/MensRights17/06/24 01:57 AM
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Okay, as the local bi guy, idk man... 😂😂🤣🤣 im sorry for all the straight guys who suffer the sight of this
/r/MensRights16/06/24 11:42 PM
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well they aren't gods, that my understanding of the norse world, they more act like day time television skits sometimes. So its important that humor can coexist with "punity for the weak".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/24 07:55 PM
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what...
/r/MensRights13/06/24 10:48 PM
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I agree with you, but you should know by now that this sub has long been filled with chuds and the 'anti-wokism' crowd. Your complaints aren't saving the masses, they never wanted to be saved. You should go to r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates, they aren't like this and actually focus on men.
/r/MensRights13/06/24 07:52 PM
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africa has had philosophy for a long while, also, all of which is relevant to this day on and off the continent. Idk why we need a Nigerian gender theorist. There's always been ubuntu of the bantu, and yoruba and akan philosophy, all this is born in the medieval period. Ethiopia has great stuff too dating back to the Christian era. even ancient egypt (kemet as some say, khēmi as its properly said) has made a return for black american scholars. https://www.historyofphilosophy.net/series/africana-…
/r/MensRights13/06/24 07:43 PM
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In a lot of cultures (patrilineal/matrilineal/bilineal) men are associated with destructive traits and women rejuvenative traits. So the idea of increasing men's 'hard power' would increase women's 'soft power' is not flawed, as the more patriarchal the society the more they'd want to protect women because the idea is to reduce men's cuckhold anxiety. Policing women, 'protecting' them, will result in her false accusations having more legitimacy. This stacking on top of the idea that men are dest…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/24 07:48 PM
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and no one would believe just males or primarily males would be sacrificed and abused, especially since feminist would very happily squash this to push the message that women suffer more than men in all societies (and this is somehow not a biological argument suggesting men are inherently wife beaters).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/24 07:37 PM
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us crazy commies at it again 🤣
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/24 11:36 PM
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I haven't thought about military guys, but yeah, exploitation is everywhere. This has me gravitating more to the idea that the male body is inherently a socio-economic object, thus the male experience is inherently socio-economic. That's where I was thinking we could go, using marxism as a tool for understanding the man-gender. Tho, i said this in the OP, psychology has a lot more practical tools for helping dudes' psyches survive and to explain male destroying phenomemon like misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/24 03:29 AM
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ah, godbess rationality, i thought i had to take another shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:18 AM
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you gotta love when something is "backed by science"
/r/EverydayMisandry06/06/24 06:46 PM
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Idk why were making this about men's nature. Men are collective - but it’s got to be for a more kick ass and overtly agressive cause, which then can contain an emphasis on improving mens right for it to catch on. This is the only social acceptable way for men to unify while getting access social capital. Its just that society doesn't care about men complaining. There is no social cred in caring about men but if you care about women you can get a lot of social capital. Its an economic problem wit…
/r/MensRights05/06/24 01:27 PM
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I mean technically, every man is trans, it's just a matter of when you transition. ive come to the same idea as you here, though im not sure if we are equal. Basically I see the 'man' experience as nothing but the transition from boyhood to manhood. Transmen and cismen both go through the same process, but there is a difference. The transman is consious of his transition into manhood while the cisman is unconcious of his transition into manhood. There's more to it than that, but this to me is th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/24 05:37 PM
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Yeah, honestly, I don't get what you trying to convey. It feels your forcing something that doesn't exist into existence. Only for a minority of issues, being trans or cis actually matters. As such trans issues should not be the center of our discussions, as it would detract from most of the points where it is irrelevant. So then cis issues shouldn't be the center of our discussion? You see how the world view your offering is inherently lacking consistency? If any individual interprets "our" as …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/24 02:04 PM
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Idk why you got downvoted. I think, just like you, that this hierarchalization is counter-intuitive to the aims of alleviating identity specific issues. Transmen are discriminated against just as much as cismen are, but because of hierarchy, "transmen outweight cismen", which naturally will be reacted to with, "cismen outweight transmen". We both suffer, and there are ways in which transmen get more privilege in side the queer space [they get treated with less androphobia because of being unders…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/24 01:21 PM
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As the creator of the poll, I have a hard time seeing what your seeing. "Transmen are our brothers" is barely equal to "Mens advocacy should centre on cis-men". I can only manage to see if I were to say "our" = cismen, which then creates an implicit exclusion, but that's not the context. "our" = men's advocate (men's advocate doesn't equal men). Therefore "Transmen are our brothers" = we (men's advocates) see transmen as we see all men, as our brothers, thus we treat them as brothers. I guess, I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/24 01:04 PM
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no fault divorce = patriarchy, no lie. others might think of it as archaic and unnecessary, linking it to conservative politics. you're asking questions with no duh answers. when the child turns sixteen the parents can divorce if the childs psyche wont be damaged then they can divirce, therefore when a kid turns 16 then they can divorce if a couple has no child then divorce doesn't cause damage to any children among them i doubt the idea that it would be more costly, longer sure, but the health …
/r/EverydayMisandry03/06/24 06:53 PM
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no joke, this was what happened under coverture 🤣
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/24 04:45 PM
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No, your not thinking of the guys as boys growing into men. If you don't have your father around how are you to figure out how to engage with the opposite sex. Your father is who you implicity/explicity rely on for understanding romantic dynamics with women, if you are heterosexual. The best solution is the one everyone thinks is evil, undo the no-fault divorce. Obviously advocating for this has no correlation with advocating for abuse. You need two parents in the household for a child to functi…
/r/EverydayMisandry03/06/24 02:40 PM
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I was doing my own research on the topic of lonely men, looking through a bunch of yt videos to see how these men felt, what was going on, etc. I was using a sample of 9 dudes, because im not watching 47 videos. But out of the 9 one of them explicitly experienced his parents divorcing, for others you could tell there was some family drama. For all these guys I was listening too, they were all mentally unwell, one of them seemed to have a clear disability. The reason for their mental unwellness c…
/r/EverydayMisandry03/06/24 12:47 PM
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Surprisingly, this is how matriarchal societies opprate gender stereotypes. Fathers are destructive, unclean, killers and mothers are curatives and clean. Im not sure about how accountability works in matriarchal/matrilineal societies, but my understanding is that a hallmark of a matriarchal culture is "fathers are expected to be as good of a mother as they are a father". I learned that from the minangkabau, and feels like an implicit world view of matriarchal cultures.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/24 03:52 AM
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I actually agree with some of this and have con to sinilar conclusion as you. Keep women close and men far i think you miss one aspect of this and reduced to only 1/2 of men's reproductive psychology. There's a bit of a drive in men to execute other men who are a threat to the in-group, this being out-group and disruptive/violent in-group men. This drive to execute these characters could be misfiring onto low class men, through the idea that lower class me are a "threat" to high class men's weal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/24 12:58 AM
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Purple dick is the only thing I can think of and it makes my skin crawl. Imagine having to get your dick cut off because of that.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/06/24 01:28 PM
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Masculinity is a story you choose to tell yourself about who you are. this is a personality trait, not masculinity Do you think manhood has an essential nature that is static across time, or do you think it is collectively bargained? Who decides? What's the instrument of the decision? Why are warriors an invalid expression of manhood? Because they would be in 2024? What essential nature do you think there is? Men manifest in so many ways around the globe. Working/hunting and childcare are the on…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/24 12:56 PM
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Yeah, so men are just violent? This to me is ultimately what manhood distills into at its very core, presence in and command of the physical space. This is what i mean by men have nothing. Women can do everything men can but they will never take the role of being the violent gender, no other gender will ever willingly take this role. And at no point did men willingly accept this role. We are taught to kill otherwise we are useless. Avoiding draft? Good luck not getting raped in prison as the bon…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/24 03:43 AM
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"would you rather open up/be vulnerable with a woman or a dog" its really dehumanizing, i don't like it, but the girls fired the first shot and made an even more grotesque comparison.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/24 02:06 AM
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zipties
/r/EverydayMisandry01/06/24 12:38 AM
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And you also have different life experiences, different expectations, different peer groups, different reproductive psychology, different genitals, different height, different muscularity, etc. Not all these are linked to T, and when they are, T is only secondary and at times tertiary. To say the opposite is to be ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:19 PM
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yes, cause everything bad happening to men is caused by low testosterone killed himself? low testosterone depressed? low testosterone abused by gf? low testosterone porn addiction? low testosterone acting gay? low testosterone
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:06 PM
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Am I femme? Where's the bar? Id say, yeah. Obviously sports, height, masc wear, attraction to women are all things women have also. Ive come to start thinking more about what manhood is/should be and Ive realize that everything that men had now belongs to everyone including the man, but because of that the man owns nothing. And this is post industrialism, nothing to do with feminis except feminis making it worse by negating men's fixing of this problem by stigmatizing masculinity and male opinio…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/24 08:33 PM
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wait what did she do? link? I heard she got arrested for something
/r/EverydayMisandry31/05/24 01:56 PM
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the number one enemy is male feminists. They aren't brothers, more like traitors and back-stabbers for good boy points
/r/EverydayMisandry31/05/24 12:34 PM
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its funny cause they already do, just no guy opens up and most ppl don't care because its a women, she's harmless. And then you hear stories about zipties.
/r/EverydayMisandry31/05/24 12:32 PM
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You can't just say "im posing men as bad ppl" because they're attracted to youth, and then claim im a misogynist, when straight dudes literally prefer juvenile features. Even gay men prefer juvenile features. Even I, a bisexual, prefer juvenile features. I mean look at this guy, Bob Mizer's Physique Pictorial. I fucking popped a boner to his face twice now. This isn't me saying dudes, straight or bi, are gonna chase fresh-out-of-highschool types, because not even 24 yo like me can handle that le…
/r/MensRights30/05/24 10:21 PM
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where does the interpersonal problem come from? Clearly straight dudes are more fascinated with young women, unless he himself is younger then he pairs with an older women and gets used and abused.
/r/MensRights30/05/24 10:03 PM
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this is stupid, mate. women are told if they don't marry by 30, their lives are over. this puts immense pressure on women and generalizes men into being bad people who overly fixate on young women such a weird claim. women hate younger women because they get more attention than older women. nothing more. Welcome to biology 101?
/r/MensRights30/05/24 08:49 PM
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Men aren’t terrifying or scary based on their build alone- abusive men are terrifying. This is the exact thing I've wanted to say but didn't know how to put it to words. It's weird to say this, but men's bodies should be seen as a sanctuary for women, not in the chivalrous sense, but in how we condition both men and women to see the male body. As it stands now, all we do is tell people to be scared of the male body, and then add in some rationality and its like adding lighter fuel to a wildfire.…
/r/EverydayMisandry30/05/24 02:17 PM
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masculinity doesn't equal muscles... not even beard, that's where your getting confused with what I'm saying. its the ways you talk, how you move yourself, your jawline, how you lust, your "don't fuck with me" attitude, and more. Mister Chamolet (or however you spell his name) is not a femme. He's not even that unmasculine, id comsider him a man's man myself. Neither that spiderman guy (tom something) he's literally just some twenty year old of my generation, he's not femme he's undeniably mascu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 10:14 AM
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I think your asking three questions here, so ill answer the three is it true that primarily men commit SA on female bodies throughout history? This is a complex answer because historians are either right or left in politics, therefore they don't care for what women do to men sexually. Just looking at sexual abuse of men/boys today i'd say it was way worse in the past, whether or not men had autonomy over their sexuality. One big but tho, i have found multiple pieces of literature that suggest th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 09:53 AM
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my guy, you reducing the conversation down to hyper specifics when I said straights to even lesbians are attracted to masculine men, idk where you got "you're arguing about what people want to see in men by looking at what a subset of women, want to see in women". And on top of that, continuing to not address the other points and examples ive given, just fixating onto lesbians as if they are the last bastion. Im pretty sure lesbian are not gonna be running around saying femme men are superior to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 09:33 AM
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now you being ridiculous and a bit bad faith, lesbians have a preference for masculine women, how does that not correlate with what they want to see out of men (gay or otherwise). And no, you'll prob never find a study on lesbian attraction to cismen, lesbians are left invisible in most cases. just look at josh szeps, a beautiful aussie gay man who's in a good marriage with two daughters iirc. Just a good adult gay man. Now, matt bernstein, not sure what this guy's relationship status is, but ye…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 09:21 AM
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nah, media is the last thing you want to use here gay men vs. straight men on femme men here you can just google the topic yourself. men being highly masculine is an aesthetic that appeals to other men more so tbh. this is the same cop-out that everyone uses because women rn literally lie about not being attracted to masc men. Women just don't like the stereotypes that get lathered over anything deemed "traditionally" masculine, such as gym rats, gamers, military men, mma fighters, etc. Its andr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 08:55 AM
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Ill also add more conext here. Those who use "tribal" more liberally i feel use it as a decolonial tool. As in, they will say "oh, xhosa and shona had their tribal warfare" and then also say, "ukraine and russia is a tribal war!" As in the west portrays ukrain russia as some international conflict, and americans go on about how WW3 is coming and so on. But things like the congo never get attention, sudan never gets attention, mali never gets attention, the wagner group raping women and tossing o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 08:15 PM
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yeah of course they were largely egalitarian, feminist may have issues with me saying that but they can get brushed aside. i think 'H-G' and 'forager' are interchangeable tho, idc which but tribal is something I find nondescriptive. I do need to say this, the issue with the term "tribal" is not one that impacts African Americans. AAs are not african in the sense of what we mean by an 'african person' within the international black community, so their interpretation may end up enabling racist str…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 08:07 PM
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On the gay guy stuff, as a bi guy, i think the shaming of another man's masculinity is destructive but its best we look at it as ppl's desires manifesting in a toxic way. It's not necessarily discrimination (unlike the examples you've given on conservatives). I think ive soaked in some of the straight guy culture from too much redpill shit, but dudes should just be masc and guys should be pumping each other up to masc out. The shaming of men should go, yes, but encouragement is healthy and if a …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 07:29 PM
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not trying to nitpick but you can use forager over tribal. As a person who dabbles in studying african culture, the word tribal gets used too much to be meaningfully descriptive for societies with irrigation systems and highly complex near scientific cosmologies and then a foraging group is then called a tribal society also. Saying tribal just doesn't make sense for 90% of africa or the world at large, and doesn't make sense even if we talk paleolithic cultures. Its just a meaningless term that …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 07:03 PM
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This is where understanding matriarchal societies (eg tuareg, iroquois, mosuo, minangkabau, black america) is essential. - In each society, with some iffiness among mosuo and black america, the men are political heads. - In all these societies, men are expected to be income earners and women are expected to be child caretakers. - In each society men have less status or equal status to women. - In each society, except maybe musuo and tuareg, there are severe punishment for men acting out, in exam…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 06:50 PM
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feminist missing the plot and calling anyone who laughs at them a misogynist. Tale as old as time. Me, a 6'3, bearded, moderately deep voiced man, who's apparently attractive to ciswomen, and who fucks dudes, is suffering from misogyny. Yes, queens...
/r/EverydayMisandry29/05/24 03:38 PM
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oh jesus lmfao. I'll give one to the girls here, there are a lot of sixteen year olds on r/feminism and it really does show sometimes. how do you go from: "they'd even fuck, and still go to beat their wives." and then say, "gay men and trans men's liberation will always be more aligned with women's than men's", as a bi dude, I think I'd receive plenty of privileges in a non-pederastic greece-like society. I'm not gonna go into the shitshow that is "incels 'struggle' because they can't compete" a…
/r/EverydayMisandry29/05/24 03:34 PM
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misandry is an ingrained facet of how prisons work my friend. misandry isnt going anywhere, just less complaining on twitter.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 01:44 PM
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This would be hyperagency, it doesn't matter what thing you are doing or experiencing, as men (or even as boys), we are expected to always handle things by ourself and not rely on anyone else (this applying to the topic of sexual abuse against men/boys). What is the origin of hyperagency? Since a conversation i had earlier has put me into the mindset of foragers vs. agrarianist. i think agrarianism is what produces the concept of male hyperagency because in the foraging world, cooperation was po…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 02:16 AM
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clearly we can see some bullshit going on with gender, but you know, we don't ask too many questions, just turn a blind eye while men get murdered by the state like its a gore carnival.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 12:12 AM
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Lee Taylor dead
/r/MensRights29/05/24 12:09 AM
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Bobby Hines is dead, tho isn't actually innocent apparently. Doesn't change anything, he shouldn't be dead
/r/MensRights29/05/24 12:09 AM
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i think this is "melyssa" Melissa Lucio. She had her death row conviction overturned.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 12:00 AM
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and ppl will go around and say "I support death row in practice, but innocent lives will get lost" and then go back to sipping their coffee as if shit like that is just a hypothetical.
/r/MensRights28/05/24 11:53 PM
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china is an unfortunate situation, I believe it was due to severe abuse / devaluation of women in their culture, but it could just be a cultural thing that has nothing to do with misogyny. I definitely don't agree with the idea of all men or all women having a suicide genes that just need to be activated, suicide is simply a person being forced into an unlivable environment that cannot be escaped.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 07:40 PM
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well, you just agreed with the definition that I gave, but used a lot of words to do so. Still appreciate it, tho. The only problem is that you are not acknowleding the line between agrarian cultures and traditional cultures: agrarian = aquaculture, agriculture, horticulture, pastoralism, etc. anything where the people produce their own food; traditional = subsistence without food production. (these are my own terms that I use to contextual the seperate economic systems). Americans are living in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 07:36 PM
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Altruistic Suicide BRUV. You're so rational you horshoed into stupidity. Thankfully, im a social constructionist cult member and so definition cease to exist in my pressence. What you are arguing and what i'm now arguing, is that suicide is an evolved trait of a species (praying mantis not included in these species) and the only means for it to be evolved is through reproduction, and nothing else because it is way to costly to be a spontaneous adaptation. This being then some types of sexual can…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 06:37 PM
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bro, bro, "Such stress leads to the tarsier hitting its head against objects, thus killing it because of its thin skull" I think you're putting to much assumption into what is being said by the wiki authors. Lemmings are not indicative of any suicide attempt as they are literally migrating in a stupid way, and male praying mantis actively try to avoid being eaten and they do not always get eaten (iirc male praying mantis will try to copulate when the female is eating), hence why sexual cannibali…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 05:59 PM
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tarsiers brother, tarsiers (wiki). civilization is nothing but captivity for men. we must return to monke. I also gave the example of octupus moms (octomoms) idk how any of this is not classified as suicide by you
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 05:20 PM
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Obviously female hunters and egalitarian prehistoric societies are not a men's rights issue - I am sure we all here support all female hunters of the past and present imma double down. As a closet anarcho-primitivist, the foraging world is so much better for men and should be understood as an ideal for men psychologically. I mean, all you need to know is that animals commit self-harm acts and suicide acts in captivity but not in the wilds (outside certain niche species, like octopus moms who sel…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 03:56 PM
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boo....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 03:10 PM
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brother, your the reason why we "hate women" and "don't care about men's issues" 😭
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 10:40 AM
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leave it to western feminists who suffer nothing to cry about suffering, weaponizing non-western women to bash western men. And then somehow complain when liberties, that no other women has that they are privileged with, start rolling back. And then they say... "we knew you were a misogynist" and "all men want is to let women get abused". Clowns, jokes, and psychological crippled from prolonged adolescence.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/05/24 01:02 AM
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I'll add some more details to the bisexual stuff, A ton of progressive women wouldn't date a bisexual man or even a bi curious man. Because they view these men as "not real men" Its more like she sees your attraction to other guys as similar to her own attraction to guys. Which is the whole "I receive, he gives" mentality on sex. Which is not the case at all with male-male interaction, in my experience there's more eb and flow and fluidity between men. He meets you where your at, doesn't force a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/24 06:57 PM
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dont say this and excuse psychologist (as seperate entities from psychotherapists and the like). Psychologists are the purest form of sin in earth, except the pro-men ones. Therapy is complicated for men, and I really hope you don't go marginilize the legimate problem between men and therapy, though highlights its benefits is good. I personally don't see value in therapy beyond fixing literal neurological/behavioral problems beget by ptsd or social anxiety or the like.
/r/MensRights26/05/24 04:26 AM
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An estimated 80-90% of offenders are male, while 10-20% of offenders are female.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:10 AM
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if your gonna read anyone's comment at least read this real feminism is in favor of a system where men’s mental health is actually seen, where fathers are given as much choice over a child as a mother, where the abuse they face is taken seriously, where men are given the grace to be sensitive and human. feminism seeks to dismantle the system that creates the pain and repression men experience as a consequence of being expected to ‘man up’ and be in charge. Men's issues are not based in expectati…
/r/MensRights26/05/24 02:27 AM
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uh, well, idk why your showing me a man who raped a 12 yo. But yes, women are severely under-incarcerated, underreported, underdetected, and under-setenced when commiting acts of sexual violence against males, particularly adult males but more critically adolescent/prepubescent males. is this an issue of "toxic idea that keeping biological families together is the most important thing, rather than severing the rights of the parent who abused or raped the other parent" ... no ... Its an issue of …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:20 AM
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they have tho? this is such a weird thing to say. explain to me mens issues and all the things assoiated
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:43 PM
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but then how come feminist reduce mens issues to toxic masculinity? Ive seen toxic masculinity be the cause for why men kill himself. This is not the case from my personal experience and seeing other dudes experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:24 PM
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okay, cmon, no one insulted your intelligence and chill out with the extremist language, demeaned victims, where did he? with just his experience of women being largely fine in amerian society. The extremism makes you look worse. There's a reason straight dudes go down this path you think this guy has gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:20 PM
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why call it toxic masculinity? Is it toxic masculinity that i can't cut child support if I was raped as a 13 yr boy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:59 PM
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i guess a bi guy has to toss himelf in and say, yeah, some straight dudes really are the best entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:55 PM
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And now, the author explains that we have people taking 23 and me and finding that they are like 5% Native American and all of the sudden pretending to be culturally native and using that to ‘move up in rank’ on the marginalized stack system. I was actually shocked when I saw someone classify themselves as POC and oppressed by whites when they were clearly white passing. It made me have to drop my phone to my lap and question if I was actually being a racial purist in that instance. But I think …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/24 07:52 PM
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honestly, ive experienced enough of life now at 24 to know that if you are single its a you problem. Men, women, straight, gay, I dont care. Ive seen enough and am tired of being compelled to give a shit.
/r/MensRights24/05/24 08:18 PM
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Is that how IA works? I thought you needed to have some academic credentials or pay money like for a library access to get past the preview wall.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/24 04:21 PM
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pretty much. as I say, men need to learn to love each other if they want a collective effort from society towards their issues. i mean, fuck, its difficult enough talking to the dudes who respond to a straight man's DV experience with "just put her in her place".
/r/MensRights23/05/24 11:09 PM
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You can use sci-hub to get access to it. I use it all the time and yes it feels kinda illegal how much information you can get access to with sci-hub (tho you are limited to everything before 2020). type sci-hub.se/database, erase the 'database' and replace it with the doi adress. EDIT: i do have to say, these data table posts that come up ever now and again are quite the aesthetic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/24 07:21 PM
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bro, your not understanding the nuance, women are socialized to not be economical dependent this is why we have to undo gender roles, because they hurt us men, but they hurt women more /s
/r/MensRights23/05/24 01:06 PM
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adhd gang 💯💯🔥🔥🔥 suffering because no medication gang 🔥💯💯💯💯🔥
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/24 02:23 AM
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Yeah, I feel you, i really do. I think a lot of men irl, online, and terminally online have just gotten so conditioned by the constant bombardment that even something as slight as this is activiting a man's hair trigger. I don't blame em, just as Ive had my "snap" moments that have gotten me banned from subs. Its just difficult to be online peacefully rn.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/24 02:09 AM
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holy shit, yes, I was at an IT school and no one said anything about the women. They were just women in an IT class, but i hear all these horror stories about IT dudes. All the dudes in my class were like the nicest dudes on earth? Honestly i was probably the only horror story in that class because of how depressed i was at 20 lmfao.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/24 01:46 AM
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the obvious should be said, the idea that men "aren't pressured into STEM because of their gender" is strange seeing how its the place to go to make money and thats all thats shoved into your throat when you hit 16. Women are only incentivized to go into stem because... 'patriarchy'. I do agree that this is really only a buzzing fly in the room and not a "you're actually neglecting men" problem. Its something to sip over a coffee, bout it. Tho, it is very much so a man trying to get "good boy" p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/24 01:42 AM
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cmon man, you have to put men first. Your influential and you know that, atleast ive seen it. Such as when you were around it felt like there were more menslib defectors coming in, which is good, more than good honestly (ive recently seen drama occur in r/menslib). But now that your gone, ive only seen the usual commentors and some diehard mra types post-blackout. In example, if I had major influence right now, I wouldn't disparage MRAs. Id never say the sub should get banned, and embarrass and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/24 06:17 PM
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would it be possible for you to start posting on this sub again? I feel your posts had generated a lot of energy in the sub that feels somewhat missing now. And on top of that, they brought in more people of different direction who wouldn't normal cone to this sub. I just feel your posts here (in contrast to mensrights) will hold far more weight and influence. but idk thats my opinion
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/24 10:59 AM
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I really appreciate you giving some more clarity to me. A lot of the dialogue ive had with myself on this topic has been interesting and there's ways in which I structured my original comment to come off as hostile, which i didn't intend to be. I have nothing against trans/nb, as I said in another comment theyre existence is not relevant to the issue i have. For example the guy I mentioned, id never not call him NB but im not gonna look past the possible origins of his identification. But your c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 08:13 PM
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Im def not looking to say "nonbinaries aren't real, they all are delusional freaks of nature." No thanks, not my way of thinking, too reactionary with an over seasoning of reductionism. Looking inwards, however, I think my primary motivation for identifying as non-binary was simply to fit into a social environment that constantly devalued men and the lived experiences of men. Which is maybe a bit self-serving, but an understandable reaction. You and I really are one in the same, because as much …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 02:53 AM
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well im glad we can understand each other. I don't care if NB does or doesn't exist, that's completely irrelevant to my issue, have a blast, do you, and if ppl have issue they can fuck off, BUT... I can't live in world were im expected to 'not discriminate' when I feel as a collective we are enabling other folk's mental illness. Enabling ruined my life and i don't need others lives ruined, especially not men's. because i feel like i've heard this exact same thing in the other direction about fem…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 02:06 AM
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money is constructed because it has a value in facilitating trade, all social constructs are constructed by their value to the society not by their randomness. Otherwise chimpanzees wouldn't produce spears and humans wouldn't produce guns. 'male and female patterned behaviors' A basic delineation between male pattern and female pattern is having male physiology which implicitly encourages certain behaviors such as less fear but also receiving more fear which in turn encourage more implicit behav…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 01:49 AM
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I understand where your going but you are one person. I do believe there is a correlation between men's degree of adherence to their gender and the cultural devaluing of manhood. Ive went into a bit more detail on my opinion in a different comment under this thread. i feel comfortable with the label because i feel much better appearing/presenting androgynously and idk if theres much more to it. it was a pretty casual and natural thing. you would genuinely be NB then, because this is what I see a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 01:01 AM
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See this is the issue with social constructs, im sure if we take you backwards enough you wouldn't feel any different then as you do today, so is this concept even meaningful? Im not trynna erase, i want realism here. Every other guy Ive talked too has said "being born a man simply means very little to me" this would mean (ignoring meaningful data) that the majority of genZ dudes ive talked to are agender and that agenderism is the natural state of humans which i cant process. Not after seeing d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 12:45 AM
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It felt good for a time, but over time, as my politics shifted, I came to realize that I was using nonbinary identity as a crutch to help me navigate socially progressive online circles been there. To really get into being amab and nonbinary. I really dont think it exists, maybe for women it does but for dudes nah. Trans or cis is the only two poles over here. I say that, because with my own experience, i was "masc non-binary" as a coping mechanism and what I see time and time again with each no…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/24 10:01 PM
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He's isnt against the sub, exactly. He got banned, but I personally see why he was frustrated. I also am not a fan of the old moderators and the reddit blackout was very selfish on their part and destroyed the previous stability of the sub. I actually think the sub would be way better in the hands of thetinmen than anyone else cause he's a lot more leveled headed on the feminist vs men problem then the moderators ive engaged with so far.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/24 03:56 PM
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Ive read papers on female sexual abusers where the authors keep saying there is not enough research in the field. You can't trust stats, but you can't trust what we know about female sex offenders either. we need a major paradigm shift, for real.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/24 08:34 PM
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cops and military men are pitbulls, change my mind
/r/MensRights18/05/24 03:54 PM
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i lose respect for military men everyday
/r/MensRights18/05/24 03:40 PM
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Come on, let's not go there, don't invalidate the women doing it genuinely. not saying there aren't genuine women, not even saying they are a minority. But, which women are and aren't just for male approval, if even they are genuine, they could be doing for selfish motivations. And im not a fan of that. I wanna be able to parce out who I can have a conversation with, so I can feel there's a place im arriving to not just helping a chick feel loved by the opposite gender. I feel maybe it is an iss…
/r/EverydayMisandry18/05/24 03:01 PM
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At least you and I can finally agree on something. I was shocked the motivation was only for male approval, I don't like the word "pick me" but I suppose there's a basis in the idea that could get extrapolated. makes me rethink a lot of the women who side with men online and offline
/r/EverydayMisandry18/05/24 01:57 PM
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i dont think you know how sadism works 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Passion is largely uncontrolled (enough that you might murder someone, it used to be a partial defence for this reason), wrath has nothing to do with being in control or not, hence not being a partial defence and, therefore, not being the word in the phrase. Oh thanks its as if I wasn't saying that, but, sir, where is the emotion, anger? Im having a hard time reading the cognitve dissonance that's going on here. its okay to be wrong man, god. 😂
/r/MensRights17/05/24 09:03 PM
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okay, bud. i think you lost the plot Yes, hence "typically". But again, the primary intent with that action is not self harm. we just went over that self-harm is not the intent to harm the self... Not that murder is relevant to the conversation, but have you never heard of a crime of passion? is anger a cause of murder or correlated with murder? Crimes of passion have nothing to do with anger, hence the term crimes of passion not crimes of wrath. Passion is nothing but intense emotions. anyway, …
/r/MensRights17/05/24 08:16 PM
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Punching a wall (or a punching bag, etc.) is typically a result of someone (or something) else as the cause of the emotion, and is expressed "outwards". Sometimes people scream into a pillow, or something similar. your being surface level and looking at the behaviour and not the motivation, self-hatred can cause the same action in men (insert punching mirror trope), and anger is not why ppl commit murder. Self-hatred can cause sef-harming behaviors but is not the only reason. This is why I say e…
/r/MensRights17/05/24 06:30 PM
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self-harm is not intentionally done "to harm the self" its entirely based on emotions, from my own experience, its also associated with dissociation. Its a trauma response, there is no "I'm gonna hurt myself now" thought. Obviously individual experience will vary, as for my own experience I "consciously" agreed to self-harming when I did it. It's for the purpose of dealing with anger, no? its for emotional release, i personally hate the word anger, its just emotions manifestimg in one way. Kind …
/r/MensRights17/05/24 03:23 PM
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Im just gonna drop this here from Dangerous Trends in Feminism Despite all of the sorry particulars I have related, I still believe that women's liberation and gay liberation should be seen as comrade struggles. I think the women should take a hard and critical look at the extreme feminist wing of their movement; parts of it have become the worst enemy of women's liberation. I think women should fight for full economic, political, and sexual equality with men, and that they should take action ag…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/24 03:33 AM
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all we need is good and honest discussion with just men about men and about how feminism impacts us and when is feminism at fault and when is western tradition at fault. But all I can ever find is shit from male feminist types, feminism is the original sin types, or disemination of feminist propaganda mixed with the same old "men are dangerous, but", or just hyper-pessimistic LDAR types. And everything under the sun for men is conservatives grifting to get votes against the "woke" or feminist sy…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/24 03:16 AM
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and what do men get? blue, black, white, and grey (and maybe dark green) it feels like we're forced into being creative for outifits, like we literally have to self teach aesthetic to ourselves, where women get socialized from birth till it becomes second nature to look good. Welcome to being an economic tool and military resource, i guess.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/24 12:06 AM
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yeah, just off assumption, im sure they're more likely to end up in prison.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/24 07:45 PM
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personally i want to see my president wearing pajamas on national television, so yeah, more laxed dress codes for men is of priority. Dudes showing up to work in onesies and still being taken seriously is the end game.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/24 04:53 PM
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male exclusionary pro-choice that sums up what you and I have both experienced. There are pro-choice women who say men have reproductive rights tho, and the aren't the "redpill wife" type, just normal women who I stand with.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/24 01:17 PM
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this is an amazing set of information, though I say it with love, write a damn book 🤣. But in seriousness, convert this into a video so it can be more digestable, reddit is an awful format for this valuable perspective your giving.
/r/MensRights15/05/24 10:06 AM
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Don't even use the word "men's rights" anymore. The most prominent faces of the modern MRM(Talking almost everyone featured in Cassie Jaye's "The Red Pill")have made the movement a side show unto itself been saying this one for a while, the MRM is tainted and unusable. Start from scratch. I've been prefering "gender sensitive human rights" and "men's human rights" over men's rights.
/r/MensRights15/05/24 09:56 AM
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bro, do you expect me to pull a tweet from a year ago out of my asshole? I mean I've met plenty of black women who are nice people and plenty who aren't thank you for summarizing the point of my comment What your asking for is irrelevant honestly. We're entering a lived experience vs. statistics conversation, for what exactly? This conversation benefits more from lived experience and anecdotal examples of behavior than seeing exactly how many bw do x, think x, say x, vote x. If you wanna reduce …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/24 11:08 PM
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I'll put my two cents here, u/alienfranco is right on black women, but i guess it must be said not all black women. Look, the black women issue or the welfare question is something I care little for, but there is an expectation of black men from black women to act more thuggish. I mean, even black boys (14-16) are socialized by their mom to be a drug dealer. This is like "inner city" issues, I didn't grow up inner city so I can only know this through hearing about it. And to all the other things…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/24 09:54 PM
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of course I wish more in this sub would properly explore all the variety of discussions on men in humanities. They'd be surprised its not as bad and there is lots to learn. I often get an anti-intellectual vibe out of some mras every now and again.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/24 04:06 PM
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Only someone with the lowest of low sense of self worth would ever dream of putting up with that. The only folks to do something like this to their partner have no sense of self-worth or self-respect. Let's double down on this statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:34 PM
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A lot is wrong with his point? If a woman starts hitting me, am I suppose to interpret her intense emotions as a sign she thinks I have high mate value? What if that then escalates into her pulling a knife on me? He's refering to a real, though mild, scenario of abuse and educating (young) men that this means she's in love and that she doesn't want to loose you. That im suppose to get negative emotions out of my gf because that means i'm a keeper and out competing other men. This is the least et…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/24 01:29 PM
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I gave him my response (link). Legit 8% of the heterosexual male population has no representation. That should get looked into though. Hispanic, asian, and north american (indigenous) men and their issues never get talked about in any meaningful light.
/r/MensRights14/05/24 01:17 PM
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If every single niche statistical identity group has an agenda that dominates the media landscape, while 50% of the population have NO agenda or supportive representation in society, that is BAD Edit: And the OP literally was an observable fact, intentionally devoid of opinion, and at worst debatable in its absurdity. You deserved it. Move on. Cheers. 49% if you are in america btw. But this 49% includes ace-spec, bisexual, homosexual, heterosexual, and their romantic equivalents. This includes t…
/r/MensRights14/05/24 01:14 PM
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No. Fucking. Joke. I always thought the plane ticket crowd were cringe and an expression of entitlement from men and women, but after the bear question I seriously started to questioning leaving and going to africa to hard core disconnect from america.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/05/24 03:24 AM
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well, this was the most normal reasonable and interactable comment ive gotten so far. I don't agree tho, because its going to be a while before Male Advocacy becomes socially acceptable this is really not the case, its all about how you go about it. You can't bash your face against the door, but you may have to jiggle the knob for it to open. But, I really do see how your looking at it. Sadly, i just think we have to let go if we (dudes) are gonna have something that is well structured and benef…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/24 03:00 AM
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type less, quote less, jesus. And don't come into this thread acting like this dude didn't go aggro against me first, im allowed to be pissed. "Sanctity"?? How are you going to say you are non ideological right before saying this?? I'm driven by specific material goals, like preventing as much abuse against men as I can. I cannot imagine how I could ever care less about the 'sanctity' of men, we do not need any pedastle or to be turned even more into unrealistic ideals. same... i used sanctity i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/24 02:15 AM
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??? Bro, who are you trying to help, yourself or men? This is the problem with you MRA types, man, you literally give no fucks about the deathrate and self-abuse and abuse of men. Your entire brain is "feminism bad" - no thought, just smash. Like, seriously, if men don't care about their rights then they don't deserve them? You seriously gonna say this after all the men I said make it clear they aren't fans of the MRM (for obvious reasons). And somehow you got an upvote with this statement. If y…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 09:08 PM
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That's mostly because a lot of people think men are the privileged gender and face no discrimination at all. I mean, bro, you have non-feminist men like Aba from Aba and Preach laughing at MRAs, it was whe they were watching a jubilee video with the blue jacket chick. Ive also explored r/askmen and those dudes are def not feminist, despite female moderators. They too found r/mensrights not for them. Those random dudes I mention, was one guy I had a small talk with and he pretty much laughed it o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 04:21 PM
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And how does society see the MRM? You can't be this bad with optics, clearly if you were to say "I'm a men's rights activist" in real life you'll get laught at, at worst, at best all your arguments are tarnished by that sub and all the other MRM forums on the Internet. They're all the same and everyone sees them as such. What value do men get from that failure, when even other random dudes who know of the MRM find the MRM an embarrassment. Didn't that one woman who made the redpill movie join up…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 03:40 PM
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White hospitality is a myth to me. Its a running joke i think, among the black spaces, that white ppl hate themselves and shit on each other and themselves more than any other ethnic group. I can't speak for hispanics, but as someone who grew up split between white culture and black culture, blacks actually love each other. There's a reason we say kings and queens and not thugs and thots, even though the second pair is broadcasted as african american language. I mean its obvious in my eyes, that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 03:30 PM
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Here's one: Women Punish The Men They Like Actually pro-abuse of men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 02:52 PM
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Some people seem to think we can't get rid of ALL the Red Pills and you're right, but we can at least reduce the numbers so we don't have to cringe because no one who isn't terminally online knows the difference. If you want to kill the association with redpill, then you're really gonna have to cut ties with the MRM. Most dudes there will nod their heads to fresh n fit (the most boring podcast ive ever seen) and tate (some irrelevant dude who provided men nothing). I was going to write a post fo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 02:47 PM
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As the token philosopher here, do you know of any modern *philosophical musings* on men's issues or more generally on manhood/masculinity from a non-feminist POV. I've only ever seen greek stuff and am completely uninterested in old dusty outdated thoughs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/24 08:06 PM
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Personally, I don't think marxist is beneficial for discussing men's issues. Unless, you can convice me it is valuable to men. Socio-economic realities are only one aspect of the complex constilation of men's issues that are largely based on (social) psychological turmoils and evolutionary bs. liberalism is cringe also
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/24 08:00 PM
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EDIT: will add links later, reddit is poo and I put too many link to all the mentioned scholars and their work. EDIT2: links added I appreciate you making my brain feel tiny. And I'm very aware of the issue of indoctrination and alienation within the humanities. I was watching a primatological lecture, and in it the prof (male) literatelly made jokes about men not showing up the next day after he went on to say something like "so now that we know men are afraid of their wives" when he was talkin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/24 05:54 PM
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i think smallness is ideal for the next couple of years till this sub naturally outgrows its current state. Your going a path where you wanna jump this sub into a full scale movement or international online talk space like AWDTSG. But us dudes are so far from being organized unlike our female counterparts, that you'll burn this good spot on the internet out and lose the single gem left online, particularly on reddit. To achieve what you desire, i think we need a place in academia first. We alrea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/24 03:16 AM
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What's gonna happen when we have robots who can do all that and more for us? Don't need a penis to be an engineer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/24 11:08 PM
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You pretty much sumed up all i have to say and more, its all psychological problems, economic desperation, and masculinity [i.e. the psycho-social realities of punishment and reward that boys are raised under]. All of this mix and culminate into a man/boy finding solutions to his problems or reacting to his problems in the ways that result in the statistics we see.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/24 12:40 PM
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i just dismantled this argument You can't call things slurs without understanding their functionality and intended meaning, otherwise anything and everything is a slur
/r/EverydayMisandry11/05/24 12:20 PM
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yeah, but once again, someone making fun of how you look isn't something you should care about nor take seriously. The one chick who said shit about my relationship with my ex made it personal, and set me off on her. But if some random feminist came to me and called me noodle arms, i personally can't be offended because its something a child would say. Its weak. Plain and simple. As i said, ive had plenty of debates with even the worse of the worse of brainrotten women. Not once have they made m…
/r/EverydayMisandry11/05/24 12:18 PM
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not in the gaming world, and no its really not. You can't call things slurs without understanding their functionality and intended meaning, otherwise anything and everything is a slur. Its kind of like women convincing themselves bitch is a slur, but words like cock, dick, and asshole, which only apply to men in standard use, are not slurs. So yeah... 🙂
/r/EverydayMisandry11/05/24 11:46 AM
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I think men are awesome 🙂
/r/MensRights11/05/24 03:12 AM
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There's a paper ive found that suggest men have more symptoms indicative of mild depression than females but the difference between men and women is so small its irrelevant, men and women have equal rates of depression just that woman get diagnosed more. Women do show more major depression than men, but once again the difference is neglgible and ive seen female risk for depression linked to estrogen somewhere. I would source what im saying but too lazy to dumpster dive my google docs.
/r/MensRights10/05/24 04:57 PM
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Discernng whether or not an ex-crim is honourable doesn't require a philosophy degree. Is a guy who is a serial rapist and doesn't decide his action are all to relevant to warrant 20 years in prison a degenerate or honourable? Is then a dude who was a gang leader but turns around and starts helping guys not go down his path honourable or degenerate? Is this definition subjective or is it not what any other person off the street would agree with. cmon man... 🤣
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/24 10:49 AM
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crucader mentality
/r/MensRights09/05/24 03:54 AM
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i was getting the feeling that the man-bear question would isolate a lot of guys on that side, especially after seeing even male feminist complaining in their subs about it.
/r/MensRights09/05/24 03:52 AM
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no, some men want to do good and those men as young and naive dudes don't listen to other men and jump into the tigers pit. Has nothing to do with sex bud.
/r/MensRights09/05/24 03:48 AM
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legit there is nothing sadder than a male feminist, man. i actually do feel for them sometimes.
/r/MensRights09/05/24 03:45 AM
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how exactly? grammar seems fine, statement is sharp and clear, gets to the point by the period. Definitely quotable I can say that for sure.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/24 03:23 AM
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The first three examples you gave, the rest is fine. For instance, let's say a man was taking lawful pictures of a child in public. The child's father, who assumes he's a sexual predator just because he's "creepy" albeit not acting in illegal ways, thrashes the photographer. As a lawyer, I'd be delighted to help the man press charges against the father for assault and battery. To make a statement that no matter how creepy or suspicious someone acted, being a vigilante is a crime and shall never …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/24 12:58 AM
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innocence vs questionable innocence is differentiated by Guy A who is taking a photo of some dogs across the park but a child so happen to be in his line of sight vs Guy B who is taking pictures of children at a park. If you take both of these dudes to court, Guy A is innocent and Guy B is questionably innocent. Guy B is also what I mean by parapedophilic behaviour, things that aren't pedophilic but sure as hell make you ask questions. maybe its the culture I grew up around but lawyers are seen …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/24 12:40 AM
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well... lawyers do have a reputation of being the equivalent of satanists from my understanding of how some in society see them. Defending para-pedophilic behaviour of certain guys (unless he has issues that would encourage saying he's innocent, like autism, or he simply is wrongly accused) is not a priority of anyone here whose concerned with men's issues unless they got lost and wandered their way into spaces like lwma. And frankly, mcclelland is definitely one of those "im a pedophile but I w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/24 12:09 AM
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Misogynists and misandrists are both stupid as hell. In fact, discrimination is stupid as hell. Don't care if you have trauma or whatever, it's still illogical and it needs to be healed, not validated. based
/r/EverydayMisandry08/05/24 11:45 PM
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i mean, sexual abuse of all varieties happen to men in war too, its not gendered just scewed towards women. Aren't russian just indiscriminate rapist, using brooms and such to violate men. The analogy isnt even close to begin with. the majority of women consent to pregnancy while combat is forced on the majority of men. And most men don't force pregnancy and will discourage it if its threatening to his partner or leave it to her decision whether she should continue a risky pregnancy, while women…
/r/EverydayMisandry08/05/24 03:59 PM
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they really did do the "he doesn't understand why this group is 1 million strong" when im prety sure you literally said something along the lines of "this is good for women but they need to be mindful of real world consequences". gaslighting is how men are oppressed in this society fr 🤣🤣🤣 and the 4B girl is insane imo, im not sure if she has the capacity to participate in the conversation, sadly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/24 03:22 PM
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usually things like that are some quote from one guy, problably (most likely) from the 70s, which they blast out into a "yes, all men" because "men don't get it".
/r/EverydayMisandry08/05/24 12:53 AM
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They do get called loser, creepy and insults about physical attributes a lot, ive never seen this. not towards xqc, barely much towards destiny even despite his takes hilariously enough, ive seen smaller channels too, nothing. Like all you have to do is watch a female twitch streamer playing mtg and just memeing to see the random bs being tossed out every now and again. Its not rampant nor an epedemic but the fact that her male counterparts never get shit is quite indicative of something. I woul…
/r/EverydayMisandry07/05/24 06:17 PM
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Nah, man. Ive seen enough to know women say far worse shit to each other than they do to men, and are worse to one another (verbally) than men are to each other (verbally). Ive yet to see personal insults aganst myself as a person whose debated multiple feminists. The only thing Ive gotten was a dumb attempt at emasculation against men, and honestly as long as you say all the catchphrases online as a dude or at least never have any opinions on gender online, then your fine. That last part also a…
/r/EverydayMisandry07/05/24 04:16 PM
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god, i knew feminist were bad to women but I didn't know it was this bad. Just looking at the picture 2/20. Im sorry to all the women who just want good treatment cause i really do see the stuff online of what random dudes say (these dudes being the ones who feel a need to constantly outcompete everyone and anyone he sees even at a damn library), but having to deal with abusive and cluster b ass behaviour around the same sex like what ive seen here makes me appreciate something that I have that …
/r/EverydayMisandry07/05/24 12:14 PM
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But saying you’d pick the bear from the comfort of your couch is an easy way to signal your feminism. never thought of it as this. The girls aren't giving honest answers just signaling allegiance in a stupid way, its all performance art. 🤣🤣🤣
/r/MensRights07/05/24 11:57 AM
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yeah, i was gonna say the 1% of convicted female pedophiles verse 99% condicted male pedophiles. Oddly suspicious percentages if you ask me. turns out justice is dogshit and could be better, gender has nothing to do with anything here. Though the arguments against the femms was subpar and didn't make the downvoted guy look good.
/r/EverydayMisandry07/05/24 03:35 AM
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Amen
/r/MensRights06/05/24 10:28 PM
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lmfao, the mods needs to clean up the sub man. Men in here have seriously let others lie about there victimization and don't call it out, which ultimately damages the authenticity of this sub and the issues men suffer from.
/r/MensRights06/05/24 10:17 PM
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ive said it for a while now, all of feminism is built on weaponizing traumatized women for capitalistic gain
/r/EverydayMisandry06/05/24 10:10 PM
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well i have yet to see a women be neglected from resource for domestic violence, or denied care after sexual assault and human trafficking. And I have yet to see a cop kill a female domestic violence victim after she had called the cops, neither a woman chainsawed to death after being said to have raped her own daughter. I know of no women's rights which aren't also granted to men, and even if there were, the comparison to slavery displays a shocking ignorance about slavery. im not sure about th…
/r/MensRights06/05/24 07:45 PM
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this subs been barely good for a long while unfortunately.
/r/MensRights06/05/24 07:36 PM
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brother you gotta click the link. Its legitimately fearmongering. They said 1 in 3 women worldwide, "133 wome die each day" and said there are X bear attacks world wide. Bears don't exist in every part of the globe just the northern hemisphere and the only place in the southern hemishere is south america. So no shit there would be less bear attacks 🤣. Second to that, women have closer proximity to men than bears on a day to day. Its just fearmongering. and if you dig deep into this, the women ar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/24 09:13 PM
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you haven't seen anything until you've seen shapeshifter romance novels
/r/MensRights04/05/24 06:26 PM
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bear
/r/MensRights04/05/24 02:35 AM
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usually how it goes. the girls actively search and comb through all male subs, all male forums, all male presenting accounts, and any male oriented content/space irl and online just to find one instance in which a guy vents at the wrong time and then they run to every femosphere space to say "can't believe the things men say" and respond with "men have no capacity for empathizing with women" and "of course men would pick men and laugh at women and call them stupid for picking bears, completely i…
/r/EverydayMisandry04/05/24 02:25 AM
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It's actually pretty frustrating that there could be so much empathy and solidarity there. i gave up on the empathy for men train long ago, I finally got my "all men are ... and ... and ..." badge from my ex, when I told her I couldn't buy the game she wanted me to because I knew the relationship was temp while also not really liking the game itself beyond one cool character. Seeing women online has pushed me as far away from wanting to look for a bridge because these women don't want it. And ev…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/24 12:08 AM
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for real bro, god! said everything i needed said. Some of these women just need to chill and not be so scared and have something on them if shit gets bad. Your a women sure, doesn't mean you can't pull a trigger. I say this, though, only reminded of the chick who shot her uber driver because she thought he was a human trafficker when he wasn't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 11:55 PM
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While I think that sex/gender is categorically different from race, you're asking the wrong person, because I think that it's completely normal and rational to have bias based on your personal experiences towards any group of person. I don't think that it's offensive at all for women to talk about the negative experiences that they have with men, and I can't conceive of how it comes across as offensive in this context, of women saying they'd trust a bear over a man in the wild. What would be wil…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 08:01 PM
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I think you guys have pretty much zero ability to self-reflect, and being a "leftist" isn't helping with that at all. you say a lot of words with not a lot of meaning, what exactly do "we" need to reflect on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 06:41 PM
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bruh, no one is saying they dont understand why women are terrified of being raped, and this assumption is sexist in its own right, that men are incapable of "reflecting on why women say they'd trust a bear over a man in the wild" making the suggestion that supposedly women's experience with the world is some magical unknowable phenomenon. The question is simple, and women's answer is predicable. Choosing a bear at random over a minority of men who barely amount to any relevance to the male popu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 06:20 PM
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and you can find the same abuse of men online, ive already seen men in real life getting abused and not saying shit, my dad is one and i could even consider myself one of 5 dudes so far. Men don't post pictures of there abuse (usually) because they're socialized to think that they have to fend for themselves and because of that you see these men numb themselves and move on, off themselves, or you see them shoot their girlfriend and get put on trial. Just cause its a woman doesn't men you feel ba…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 12:37 PM
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I would love to see the evidence this sub-human has of men pretending to be victims when this is literally what female abusers do all the time when calling the cops on their male partner.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/04/24 10:04 PM
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we are very much so apes
/r/MensRights02/04/24 06:06 PM
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Idk how our society retionailized this dehumanizing mentality towards children, we already deal with ppl treating children as retards and now this. Women don't need abortion rights, they need healthy care and abortion is health care to prevent unnecessary deaths in our society. Some women cannot have children wthout dying, we didn't know that in the past and now we do, and its best to let those women survive if they don't want to risk their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:59 PM
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Sorry to profile you but the attitude mixed with the visible escalation of your anger (the fact you frequent feminist subs too) leads me to believe it's likely you're the kind of person who'd go, "awwwe are you okay? It's okay to cry" And then, when called out, say some shit like "I was not being mean, you're crazy- all I did was literally ask if they were ok and that there was no shame in crying 🥺" how in the fuck do you come to that conclusion with the ways I argue... And you say I act like so…
/r/MensRights31/03/24 05:26 PM
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I didn't even read that last part. What lefty ideology? I think your the delusional one here who cant even maintain your own shity persona correctly! LOL
/r/MensRights31/03/24 05:08 PM
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You say this below vv (link) (feminist response to you) You're framing men as in an animalistic, unwilling thrall to their sex drives. They have no choice but to treat women like shit, because they simply have to get laid (you're response to them) No, that's your interpretation, plus yes i've worded my OP badly, the main purpose of it is not to get men to treat women better because the only reason they treat women badly is sexual desires. That's a misunderstanding of what i said. Then you say al…
/r/MensRights31/03/24 05:06 PM
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yes and im a woman also. What guy asks these questions? Honest question to you. I can only think of three, a transman who decided they were actually femme masc and not a man, a male feminist who wishes he was gay because testerone is inherently evil, or a pre-op transgirl whose mentally ill and suicidal. And I doubt any of these three males would come to this "solution to male rapist" except maybe the transgirl.
/r/MensRights31/03/24 04:26 PM
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no they aren't if they came to the same normal response that I had when I read your dogshit post there. Id argue that you're deeply bigoted and jaded from your own possible abuse because you seem to be one of those chicks on tumbler who say boys should be chemically castrated. It's obvious by how passive aggressive you became to me calling out your blatant retardation. Your only goal in asking this question is to "cure" men of what you see as inherent rape instincts so you can feel better, not s…
/r/MensRights31/03/24 04:14 PM
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??? Okay, if there was a pill that made me cum raimbows that tasted like cottoncandy, maybe Id take that pill. Wtf are you on about "this is just a hypothetical", a hypothetical is realistic and I gave you a realistic response. Your offering chemical castrastion on a lower dosage trying to make it sound normal. I saw you ask this question in askfeminist i believe, and even the feminist came to the same response as I had and yet when I give that response I'm limited in my imagination?
/r/MensRights31/03/24 03:58 PM
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no. this is just chemical castration which is done to pedophiles and rapists, alongside surgical removal of testies, which have never stopped a serial rapist from raping. And normal healthy dudes already do this to themselves for whatever reason. What kind of question is this, and why are there men giving serious responses to it?
/r/MensRights31/03/24 03:47 PM
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the feminist approach to ending domestic violence summarized. feminist solution to female perpetrated domestic violence: "just snap her neck, bro" feminist solution to male perpetrated domestic violence: "we need to teach men healthier masculinity" End result, defending yourself from your female partner as a male is a criminal offence
/r/EverydayMisandry30/03/24 07:04 PM
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Yeah, pretty much the state modern day society, the allusive oppression of the white woman plagues her to her core. The greatest joke by feminist is that white women were oppressed during slavery, there's a book written by someone who was classified as a proto-feminist in the 18th century where she literally says THREE TIMES that being a white women married to a land owner in that time period is worse than whipping post, nails through the palm, tossed off boats slavery. THREE TIMES!!!! 🤣🤣🤣 She e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/24 04:13 PM
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FD will call anything that points out that (white) women were rapists and pdf-files on the plantation as misogyny and an act of "trying to take away women's rights". He's a joke, and constantly tries to flex how better of a man he is and how he can provide for his family and how he lives the middle class white household in contrast to the other "bitter black men" in the black manosphere, like I should care. The irony of him is he's all about helping men (from the feminist pov) but perpetuates to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/24 02:57 PM
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Ive my own experience with body shaming too, so I know what you mean. Dudes get to wound up in it, me included, and we go places in our heads and stuff when we should know its best to take derision from others as a sign of their own selfish views of other ppl's bodies and ignore those folks. Toxic ppl will find toxic ppl and come crying back to apologize, how it goes. Despite that though, its objectively not comparable to having to deal with rape gangs, man hunters, human trafficking, rapey / mu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/24 02:03 AM
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I gave the example in the first paragraph. Il state this first, white men don't face racism as ive defined it. Instead, they are simply demonized and Id argue that genocidal ideologies against white men is not minor but not strong either. The news is dominantly white faces, the most popular ytbers are white, majority of major artist in pop music tend to be white or white palatable, lefties can have white spokespersons, and so on. Clearly whiteness is not demonized, especially since africa and al…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/24 08:57 PM
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Last I checked black men are not princes in lefty spaces nor immune to bigotry for being black men, you gave the example of black women who aren't necessarily minor in the feminist section of academia last I heard, hence Black Male Advocates being a thing, and cough this comment and all other comments showing aggression against black men's "privilage". The only exception to the marginalization of bm is if they say all the right things about black women and demonize black men in suit, then they g…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/24 07:21 PM
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and so? Men are also placed into dependency on women by the fact that men don't have wombs, wooptidoo. And no, it was a counter argument to a generalization not a generalizing counter argument. The women who wanted to go to school went to school in the past because they had wealth. Women at the bottom didn't have wealth, therefore no school and standard agrarian living for those women, teaching their children about basic home necessities. Living poor doesn't equal having a chance to become an as…
/r/EverydayMisandry28/03/24 06:57 PM
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"women weren't allowed to" is a bit of a generalization, both historically and presently and even in the context of just the west. Women were fine without these things. And plenty of women (in 2024) hilariously enough just live off the boyfriend/husband's bank accout anyway. Is a bank account / career actually that necessary when women barely use these and can choose to not use these, in contrast to heterosexual men who HAVE to use these things otherwise face mockery and to even be considered da…
/r/EverydayMisandry28/03/24 06:38 PM
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I think the only means is to encourage empathy towards men, but not forgiveness. Ive said this to myself multiple times before really getting confident once I saw Vaush legit say that "the only reason men kill their girlfriend is because they see them as property". Which is like saying (and to preface im afro-american) that if I was a slave master, and some other slave master stole my slaves, that I would then kill him and kill myself after. As I mentioned earlier men who kill their gfs usually …
/r/MensRights14/03/24 09:16 PM
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bro what!? What kinda feminist says what i said? Do you not think europe was once patrilineal? Are you denying history? holy fuck this sub doesn't change 💀💀💀💀. Your experience is bullshit, if it was real and your dad died, youd be going off on me. Either that or you seriously give no fucks about your dad. This is fake, why fake this? Just for upvotes? How socially deprived can you be? Maybe the loneliness crisis is more serious than I thought.
/r/MensRights14/03/24 08:19 PM
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Yeah you sound full of shit, sorry. How do you go from "extraordinary" to "her case is hardly unique". I have seen bad stuff, but what you describe doesn't even sound close or natural in contrast to the stuff Ive seen studied in regard to female co-offending. How did she have accss to "multiple boyfriends"? (rarely will a female have more than one male co-offender, let alone mutiple). Let alone the fact she was fucking each one at the same time, by your description. Was she a head of a female ha…
/r/MensRights14/03/24 03:09 PM
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Bruh, who are you where you need to run from the FBI, CIA, or doxxing gangs? Were you involved? Its important to share to not allow ppl to troll on this reddit as there is a tendency for feminist to do so and for ppl in this sub to fall for it. Im fact checking you, bud. If you wanted to respect identities for such an "extraordinary case" where gasp "she went to prison", maybe you shouldn't have even mention this online?
/r/MensRights14/03/24 02:44 PM
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Maybe I misinterpreted, but even if its an explanation its still feels like you conveying the situation as a "why bother trying" situation, and so I felt a need to point out something I think is more optimistic. But your not wrong, and even if we lived in a world in which guilt by association wasnt prominent or was completely vacant. The ways in which women work is instinctual guilt by association, they will just never touch you if they see you friends with some guy with a reputation/record even…
/r/MensRights14/03/24 02:17 PM
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name of the case?
/r/MensRights13/03/24 11:44 PM
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I stongly disagree with some of this, for two reason (1) A lot of guys who are suicidal may come off as very violent. This is where we get mass shooters and guys who kill their ex (usually they kill themselves afterwards). In other cases men who self harm will self-harm by picking fights with other men. These are instances where guys can talk to each other, and of course should. But this is not me saying, men need to go looking for these guys, just when he shows himself to any man, its important…
/r/MensRights13/03/24 11:39 PM
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LOL. Alright buddy, send your momma hugs and kisses for me.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/03/24 09:41 PM
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Doubt. In what way does a poor live in multiple run down areas? You live in a ghetto and you die in that ghetto [whole point of a ghetto]. Dont be a fucking moron, kid. Its bad for both, in fact, I'll hit the gas peddle here. Stop acting like women arent safer at night when she can rely on support from other men more easily, ie. a brother/father/close friends/boyfriends. Do you know how female baboon get males off them? She calls up her male friends. Dont act like females are stupid and helpless…
/r/EverydayMisandry13/03/24 09:09 PM
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Legit, stop believing in the idea women are oppressed. Oppression as term I believe was popularized by marx, and the definition itself is vague beyond belief. He used this for (i believe exclusively for white, primarily male) individuals of the working class. Later it was used for afro-americans, and rightly so. White women only started calling for "women's liberation" because the african woman was finally being freed from her position as a sex slave white men and a maid for white women. Thus th…
/r/EverydayMisandry13/03/24 08:59 PM
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So in some contexts (such as less worry walking around at night) male privilege exists tell this to a black man or any white man growing up homeless/poor/working class. Let alone any other man from different ethnicities around the globe.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/03/24 08:14 PM
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this has been something that really infuriates me about MRAs, and its disapointment not hate. A lot of the points are valid and important, but you can't have this be you're whole selling point. I've seen enough from these sections of the manosphere, where only surface level complaints show up. These surface level complaints are why no one can care about the death and dying men are experiencing in our culture exclusively for our gender, and even more so for our sex. This reality of sexual miscond…
/r/EverydayMisandry06/03/24 05:47 PM
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Alright, I gotta add my own diarrhea to the shit storm that is you and you're attempts at whatever this is. Two very simple questions, question (a) and question (b). (a) what are the odds of a women, after having been falsly accused of raping her son, being murdered by a chainsaw? (b) what are the odds of a women being denied proper aid from a rape crisis center after experiencing rape?
/r/EverydayMisandry06/03/24 04:45 PM
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do you know what gish gallop means? There's exactly only one question I ask to be answered. Should we execute men on mass, agree or disagree? The rest is elaborations for why I am asking this question.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/23 07:26 PM
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So we should execute men on mass then? Let's specify the idea of efficiency, because i don't think all guns are efficient for mass shootings, nor is the progenitor of guns (spears>arrows>bolts>bullets) designed to kill humans. Also this efficiency to kill other humans includes knives since knives like spears, arrows, bolts, and bullets are used for subsistence as much as they have a potential to kill humans, which could be classified a type of subsistence. No rational person would put a ban on k…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/23 06:23 PM
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Okay, please explain to me in big words how this is a gun issue that isnt the followimg: "They shouldve taken his gun" or "without a gun x number of people wouldnt have died".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/23 05:20 PM
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yeah, thats embarrasing, what happens when you have impulsivity and bias confirmation. When we take all non-white populations (148) it would be 53% white over non-whites. When we compare between white verse individual groups of the non-white category it would be 18% black, 9% latino, 7% asian. Which lines up with population percentages in interesting ways. 53% of shooters are white as the 59% of the population, with 18% of shooter being black as the 14%, 9% of shooter being latino as the 19%, 7%…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/23 04:36 PM
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Its really not a gun issue though? I'll assume you are mentioning they didnt take away Card's guns while he was experiencing paychosis and deteriorating mental health, on top of suicidality (which I dont agree with taking away guns on the basis of suicidality, the person should self-determine, but whatever, I'm not gonna argue that here). This is fair, and you can call it an issue of regulation. But when we blow it to the macro and see all these mass shooting, not all of these men or women had p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/23 02:08 PM
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Nah, you're not underdstanding what im saying, but I guess i worded weirdly. And yes, I think its perfectly rational ieven if one might disagree. Whats a violent revolution if not a rational violence? Is a coup not rational? Anyway, you should watch this lecture on the rationality of suicude. I will repeat myself multiple times on this, but there shouldnt be hesitation on agreement to my theory here. If mens violence, particularly mass shootings, is observably an act of suicidality, then men's v…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/23 12:20 PM
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point for me where I went wrong
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/23 11:24 AM
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I posted this on r/MensRights with the same title if you wanna go see them discuss it there, but on this sub I would really like to add race into this discussion. The whiteness of the majority of mass shooters is apparent (79%), beckoning a need to racialize this topic into a discussion on whiteness and what that means for men. (here is a complete overview of mass shooting data) Personally, I don't necesserily see whiteness as a marker of "privilege" by any means, nor does "power" apply to these…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/23 01:37 AM
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i do think there is an aspect of men in power verse women in power that you cant just "people problems" a way, due to socialization and reproductive competition and the like. Do I have any data or anecdotes on that? no. But I do find some men to be completely unempthetic to men, especially struggling men, while we usually see empathetic women for women who are struggling or not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/10/23 10:30 PM
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yeah your pretty retarded and insular to your own life, unfortunately, and probably don't belong here if your saying "you guys need to go put on some skirts" when we have men here with friends who are dying from alcoholism, and males, in this sub, who was raped multiple times in their life by women and going homeless from getting no support and getting laughed at by support or in the case of a man abused by his trad wife while he worked and was forced to work his ass off to "make her happy" as i…
/r/MensRights23/10/23 02:43 PM
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actually yes, heterosexual boys generally experience sex with women who are 21 at age 16, where girls exprience sex with a 21 yo at age 17. (I might be 1 year off, it may be 15 for boys and 16 for girls). And the paper I cited also said that only roughly 45% of girls had been statutorily raped by a 21 yo or older male, while for males (ill correct my last comment) 70% of the female rapist were over 21. Here's the quote Of the offenders of female victims, 45% were age 21 and older, compared with …
/r/MensRights20/10/23 04:52 PM
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You can say its other guys who are the vocal part, but women are the quiet majority. Ive seen so many creepy older women talking about young male sexuality to know that women, with their apparent immunity to be classifiable as predators, are the sole reason this exists. Like 70% statutory rape perpetrators of boys are older than 24 (Troup-Leasure & Snyder, 2005). Women are the ones obsessed with male sex life and horniness and will legit talk about their boyfriends performance and dicks with oth…
/r/MensRights20/10/23 10:07 AM
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my guy? communication barrier i guess? anyway. Ill say my peace this is stupid as shit. Which is why you wrote all of these comments trying to pick my position apart. Okaylol. I wrote this because you seemed confused on why you got downvoted. I explained why. Then you got pissy. Then I got annoyed at you getting pissy. And now its chest puffing competition. Good because you're either wrong as fuck or you misread what I said and you can't let it go. No. I'm not debating whether or not your sexist…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 10:12 PM
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yeah, so you are just mad and want to squash the roach. Just go vent instead of commenting like lost boy confused on why he got downvoted. The solution to incels is to literally give them alternative avenues to gain self worth beyond sex. This is literally what i said. You're just wrong about the empathy part. If you really think you can generalize and dehumanize the fuck out of people and then still expect them to be patient with you then you're just wrong and you don't know how real people act…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 08:11 PM
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I don't know who this boogeyman is that you're talking to I'm not telling him to shut the fuck up and tough it out. I'm telling him to shut the fuck up and to stop looking for an echo chamber online. I quote confusingly to be honest, you come off as someone whose just angry, not one ounce of you feels like someone Id go to if im struggling with something. Which is weird cause you said this "If this isn't bait, I hope you're doing well man." Then you're gonna get pushback when you say dumb shit t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 07:02 PM
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yes... and you should also not abuse ppl... coping is done for the sake of alleviating a problem, coping is good. Therapy teaches you how to cope, not cure you. It alleviates, it doesn't cure. That alleviation inevitably feels like a cure but must be constantly performed therefore it is not a cure. Coping is bad, when it is a bad coping mechanism / strategy. Him partaking in escorts was him coping in a negative way (if you read my previous comment, you know this is what i was saying, but I suppo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 12:19 PM
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if this is the post your are refering to. İ dont disagree with the fact that incels have low-self esteem issues and not "women are attracted to things" issues. but don't say this. All the other shit is mental illness. Maybe recognize the fact that you're a guy who spent nearly 6 figures on escorts before you try to tell other people what regular women are like. This is a bit ableistic, if someone is suffering emotional or mental problems, the last thing you should do is beat them and shame them,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 11:34 AM
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Wow, İ dont even disagree with you that manosperian ideologies (redpill, incel, mgtow) infect all and every non-feminist mens space. But İ don't even think you know what redpill is, because if you think men complaining about being abused by women is ontollogically evil, then we have brigger problem than some closeted redpillers roaming and posting on this sub. secondarily, masculinity is not something to converse aboiy, from my understanding of masculinity, it is an institutionalized set of expe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 11:10 AM
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why are you bringing up masturbation when talking about children? No one else mentioned anything about "play with your pecker" here.
/r/MensRights17/10/23 08:18 PM
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abuses against males and females tend to be uniform across the globe, there is no race creates unique violences, as in black males get lynched because blackness. If your male, you get castrated, if your female, you get forced pregnancy. Violences are placed on racialized bodies, and these racialized bodies exaggerate the violence they experience. (a false allegation for a black man is worse than for a white man, black men get longer sentences than white men, etc.). But there are no past structur…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 06:49 PM
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I do want to add on to this that not every hetero dude who watches lesbian porn is fetishizing, its two more of what is already liked. Same applies to gay porn and gay romance when consumed by straight women. But there are aspects to straight women fetishizing that are damaging when they leave the private. Such as gay guys being shown primarily as "that one twink" and not guys like me who are, uh? Generic and boring? With lesbians, their fetishism plays out in irl abuses, but here's where I star…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 01:30 PM
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this is not fetishism, lesbians are just treated better in this regard. male bodies are seen as gross as another person mentioned below, and also experience the most amount of sexual prejudice, heterosexual men, homosexual men, bisexual men are all stigmatized more than female counterparts (theres lots of data behind this i can show). Male bodies are simply seen as animalistic and bestial in direct contrast to women's bodies which are seen as normal or closer to pureness by contrast to male bodi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 12:45 PM
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People being responsible and held equally accountable for their own actions. Communities helping those who need help. Valuing family, trust and honourable behaviour. I honestly have no clue how either the first or second one is a conservative right-leaning ideology. The left cares about the homeless, at least they say they do, and this alone fits your criteria for being "right-leaning" even though from Ive seen out of actual right-leaning ppl is neglect of the homeless. Valuing family is a subje…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 12:16 PM
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yep, so interesting to know shes like the head of third wave feminism, and, I think, the creator of gender abolition ideology? She clearly wants to delete gender but only for men, which is pretty much what male feminist have been doing with toxic masc and conell's hedgemonic masculinity and shit. You can see that intent behind her explicit erasure of males, but retainment of "women" terminology. So this is the end game of the kimmel dream. I think anti-gender neutral language has to be upheld am…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/23 11:07 AM
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she actually protected a lesbian sexual abuser (Avital Ronell) of a gay male student. This lesbian sexual abuser denied the student a PhD unless he performed a fantasy relationship with her, or something like that? link i hate her
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/23 03:17 PM
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at this point I wouldnt be shocked
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/23 03:00 PM
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Im gonna start reading the gender theory stuff at some point but apparently she's actually a pedophile or like pro-pedophilia? look at this nonsensical shit. There's a whole chapter in this book called "Quadries of Incest Taboo" (p. 152-160 of "Undoing Gender" 2004 [there's a free pdf online]) “It is not necessary to figure parent-child incest as a unilateral impingement on the child by the parent, since whatever impingement takes place will also be registered within the sphere of fantasy. In fa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/23 02:11 PM
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PPD in men was once disgustingly called 'male pregnancy' in the 1950-70s and was described as a "display of female-like behaviors" during his wife's pregnancy / the birth of his child. Its also called "couvade syndrome" I think to this day in anthropology, which was basically just calling men of the caribeans f-slurs, iirc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/23 08:48 PM
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i dont know what reproduction has to do with ppl venting online when their patterns of venting are literally the same. And "use"? I don't think that's the best word to describe how female humans and non-humans reproduce, but what can I say, welcome to r/MensRights.
/r/MensRights06/10/23 01:20 PM
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r/mensrights and r/feminism are literally identical just gender flopped. it makes me giggle everytime i compare the subs.
/r/MensRights06/10/23 11:46 AM
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yeah, nah, this isnt close. And I won't be debating hitlers motives. Go read killing boogeymen if you havent, and watch this its 29 minutes. Racism is misandry, tommy curry doesnt say this, not even sure if he agrees with me, but there's too much shit even down to human's violent behavior for "racism" to not be deemed misandry or at least a misandric operation if we want to mello out the terminology. Just look at chimps and how and why they kill each other. They rarely if ever kill ingroup, and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/23 02:07 AM
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okay thats actually funny, im not even gonna edit it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/23 08:37 PM
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we already have a perfect working definition. how does misandry, the contempt for men, help us understand a male domestic violence victims getting killed by a cop? I dont think the definition is working as intended. brother, you have no clue what your talking about, and neither what misandry is despite me literally explaining it with more rigor than what you offer. Like, Contempt? Just contempt? Really? It's dehumanization which begets contempt. Racism is distinctively misandry becayse racism is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/23 08:10 PM
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Just be compasionate, that's literally all you can in this modern society. But also broaden your understanding of men's victimization (e.g. men's experience with rape, men's and boy's experience with abuse and ipv, erc.) But the best thing you can really do, is educate the female friends in your life, as well as men too. I'd reccomemd r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates over this sub, for more dense and at times academic oriented conversation on men's issues.
/r/MensRights25/09/23 01:47 AM
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this is something I find very annoying which is this continuous conflation of sexism and misandry/misogyny, that even feminist have begun doing. Everyone always forgets how sexism is done in its entirety: men are rational, men are emotion-less (not really in a positive sense), men are logical, men are aggressive, men are stoic, and men are courageous — women are irrational, women are emotional (not necesserily in a negative sense), women are gentle, women are shy, and women are fearful. male dis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/23 12:59 PM
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Im just gonna be the random that inserts themself into the convo. But you're pretty much spot on when you basically say "if you know you're opinion will be judged, don't voice your opinion" these types of guys act like they'll get publicly castrated if they say they prefer lower body count in their female partner. Like, no, some ppl will probably give you stink eye, that's about it. And these blackpill dudes really have a disgusting victim-hood complex. They don't realize they're causing some of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:21 PM
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uh, im dehumanizing ppl who turn anti-feminist? Okay, anti-feminism is the abolition of feminism, ie. a return to traditional roles for women, as well as men... It has always been a conservative attack against women's liberation since women's liberation began in the 1st wave. If you are anti-feminist you are partaking in conservatism. This is really basic shit to grasp. You can see that by looking at the ingrained right-leaning elements of r/MensRights. If mras want to be anti-feminism then they…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/23 01:58 AM
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I dont think you understand what is meant by "its the fault of anti-femimism". And no, free will doesnt exist, the average person comes to their political leanings from experience and the gene-environent interaction, not rational thought. And vaush? Vaush is fine, unless you puritan and gatekeep people on the basis of what content they watch, and buid an ecochamber. I also dont watch vaush, i dont know how you infered this. I subcribe to stay up to date. Kind of what it means to be an advocate. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/23 11:02 PM
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Anyway, Feminists are way too emotionally attached to radical men's advocates and misogynists so MRAs should act like feminist? Should they minimize women's issues, oh wait... should they say that women have privilege, oh shit... yeesh. I'd hope one day they wont portray themselves as victims, since they are so oppose to victim-complexes and not holding women accountable, but I think its hard to find a single MRA who isnt trying to make a victim cult around men. I guess MRAs really are just femi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/23 10:10 PM
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I mean, bud. Ive been on this side of the aile long of enough to know that the feminist-left are distintively anti-men on the basis of the traditional european gender model (men=perp women=victim) that I laid out in my OP. And every person on the left doesnt understand themselves as being misandrist, yet still perpetuate misandry. Everything you need to understand about leftist misandry ive already written in my OP. And obviously im not excluding conservatives from being misandrists either, but …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/23 10:15 PM
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The obvious is the obvious, the left promotes misandry. But I'm not gonna say that without going into detail. There's a huge problem in our perception of victimization between the genders built on traditional european chivalry. That being the paradigm of man-as-perpetrator ie. he is the hero/the villain, and woman-as-victim ie. she is the damsel. This is sexism, and feminist complain about it despite supporting it, and women and some feminists are the ones who actively uphold this paradigm. And …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/23 06:10 PM
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I havent gotten to the full article but this seems good. It should also be remembered that males in juvenile detention get raped more (by staff) than females in juvenile detention. source In the National Survey of Youth in Custody 2012, about 9.5% of male and female juvenile detainees reported sexual victimization in the 12 months before the interview (or since detained, if < 12 months). But gender differences were observed: females were more likely than were males to report sexual victimization…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/23 10:29 PM
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Huh? How is this unspecific exactly? And idk how this is incorporating too many topics with too many links? 50% of the links are me sourcing quotes. Anyway lol. For the second half of the post I delve into these videos because they are by ppl who arent MRAs or men's advocates, and nah, the conversation on the left is changing and ppl rn want to learn. Men's advocates need to be taking advantage of that. I kinda get the vibe you tried skimming through, got intimidated, and posted this comment. Th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/23 12:30 PM
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Well i literally don't know how one would find out the percentage of men who do specifically what you said. So id guess they would have ASPD, but not all men with ASPD act like that so I gave 3%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:00 PM
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Men seem to often feel like they are inferior so they want to feel superior by finding an objectively inferior woman or make an average woman hate herself as much as he hates himself. where you get this from? It seems a bit too specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:45 PM
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3% of the population thinks like this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:13 PM
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based
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:12 PM
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definetly not depressing in anyway
/r/MensRights24/08/23 06:20 PM
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define patriarchy... An ideology can in fact be conservative, that would be every religion in the world currently. Feminism is not excluded from being classifyable as conservative "just cause", and being trans has nothing to do with feminism. Trans activism is for trans activist and queer activists. You don't get to just hog a topic or scoop up vulnerable traumatized ppl because you wanna turn feminism into a minority rights movement and convey all systemic problems as originating from misogyny.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/23 03:03 AM
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you cant run around labeling things willy nilly. Terfs are feminist, they are just conservative feminist. Please stop using leftwing rightwinging mumbo jumbo and call them what they are. The TERFs have always been feminist and have always spoken feminist ideology, just cause you disagree with them doesnt make them suddenly not feminist. You dont get to define things to make yourself look good. If the definition of leftwing is fighting for equal treatment then the feminist are rightwing, if right…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/23 08:48 PM
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No, feminism is distinctively not leftwing if we generalize feminism, a hate ideology cannot be inserted into a leftwing framework just cause its women spouting hate. This idea that feminism is leftwing is a shittake that shows that you like many others dont know the history of feminism or downplay feminist history by saying "they had to be that agressive to get where we are". You seems to also be confused on what even is LW v. RW men's advocacy. There no such thing as rightwing men advocacy, if…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/23 01:07 PM
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its fucking insane that this joke, isnt even a joke. A man can be standing somewhere, doing literally nothing but breathing, and ppl will still find him sus. LOL
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/23 12:22 PM
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Not the OP, but so far I've found two video giving lectures on anthropology in which I've found what would be in my opinion pretty agregious misandry. And generally sociologist are supporters of feminism to the point where sociologist and feminist are practically synonoymous. So i've also seen terms like toxic masculinity and hedgemonic masculinity be used in an introductory to sociology lecture, and in that same lecture what feels like ignorance by the proffesor towards broader male issues in f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/23 10:40 PM
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I think a big part of academic misandry is the deemphasis or even erasure of the worst aspects of women, but an emphasis on the worst aspects of men. It's also the fact that academia has mindlessly adopted feminist theory. This came with a lot of shaming and career loses for individuals (particularly men) who don't say the right thing in the right way, or who don't affirm the view that women are uniquely or divinely punished for being born women. And in the case of misandric men, I think there i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/23 10:07 PM
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ah woops, didnt look much into the specifics of gorrilas or orangutans before making the claim that all great apes are hierarchal. Thanks for the correction.
/r/MensRights19/08/23 06:14 PM
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Wow… don’t act smug if you don’t really know what you’re talking about. You've definitely decided to frankenstein what the APPG was saying. In the last paragraph they give an example of what they mean: a daily mail article… This they say refers to creating barriers (which. I. don’t. disagree. with.) BUT……….. I don’t believe a psychologist is allowed to victim blame their clients, and if they do, I think they can get fired. I don't believe in this idea that men are so anti-woke that they'd rather…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/23 01:36 PM
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there are nearly as many female rapist as there are male rapist, even among adolescent folk. source And i believe I've seen speculation on 40-60% of child sex offenders being female
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/23 09:09 PM
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The "civilians, children, women" thing is actually surprisingly classified as female oppression by feminist, btw. It's as stupid as it sounds. [source] A lot of sexist expression are present by Miller and Swift as matters of historical accident. Thus man used to mean a person of eithe rsex, and gradually narrowed it to refer exclusively to males. Conventional usage has not changed to accomodate this narrowing, and thus it is ambiguous and distorting. The use of words like spaceman and craftsman …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/23 11:57 AM
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<3
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/23 12:49 AM
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eh, MGTOW actualy p chill. Though to many damn alt-right rejects in the overall community. Thinking-ape and barbarossa are the only wrth watching imo. The rest can be summed up in this tweet
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 10:00 PM
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that's redpill not MGTOW. MGTOW is more high brow and philosophical. Redpill/PUA dudes all got sex addictions and think its cool sex is meaningless and hollow for them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 08:41 PM
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Ill respond in a couple days
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 07:07 PM
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you've literally missed the entire point of why I said this. Reread. If its too difficult to understand then don't bother replying.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/23 11:32 PM
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its more so this one ad that I think actually traumatized me when I was 12-13 which was a bra ad that was sending the message "eyes up here, not down here" and there was this weird thing where my eyes started looking at breast and I'd feel really stressed out trying to not look at them, despite me not actually being sexually aroused by breast. I'm bi, so my sexuality is somewhat of an anygma, but this "trauma" has made it impossible to look at women in porn, because I'm like effectively wired to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/23 11:21 PM
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Plenty of us are boys abused by feminism, im 23 and grew up through the whole culture war and only ended up with a strong disgust at my attraction to women that I now have to work to undo. I can empathized thats its much worse for het dudes. Also dont worry about not critizing feminism, feminism's not the source of every men's issue in the book. Anything and everything about men is fully accepted as long as its not sexist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/23 10:09 PM
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If you can't do the bare minimum and support your own vlaim that therapy doesnt increase you dating pool. Then how on earth should any person agree with you? I ask for evidence then I expect evidence. Not even evidence, an explanation. I gave you my source, common sense. Can you yourself disprove my source? If not, idk what to tell you but this opinion you seems to come from personal experiemce instead of a study. I asked for ecplanation, and you gibe me a whimpish "you're the one saying it! I d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/23 11:27 AM
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Yeah, ive become more nihilistic about this. Its all irrationality and ideology inside them, extra points if there's trauma. Your talking to a person who was taught their misandry and exist in a culture who affirms their misandry. Not only that but women arent held accountable to their own toxic behaviour, and some women applaud their abusive antics. Feminist affirm this, because they think men are allowed to be angry and aggressive and women are not allowed to be angry and aggressive. And final…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/23 10:37 PM
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uh, common sense? Tell me how it doesnt
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/23 10:37 AM
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Mm? My first question should have been made more clear, but the links towards toxic masculinity provide nothing to my question on how feminist psychologist are bad for men. This link doesn't talk about psychologists. I should've asked: are feminist pyschologist detrimental to a degree that warrants telling or conveying to men that it is best to swear off therapy or fear monger therapy. which is not going to happen, since psychotherapy is one of the wokest / most anti-male spaces in all of societ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/23 01:44 AM
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you mind sharing a study that shows therapist are not beneficial to men? Specifically how feminist therapist are impacting the mental health of male clients and whether or not male clients are satisfied with feminist therapist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/23 10:25 PM
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yeah, no he's talking about the community. You are going to find high levels of mental illness there, but these guys are small fraction of inceldom and are primarily the more extreme case of incelibacy. Be mindful of this when saying incel, some guys casually identify with it whilst being mild cases at best. You should be prioritizing lonliness or emphasize talking specifically about these groups.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/23 10:20 PM
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Can you show me a paper? Because if they are taking from incel forums, then that's a biased sample and you're missing the point of the incel stuff I feel. Many guys are perfectly good men, but have no dating opportunities. These would be some lower class men, some working class men, men working overseas where no women are located, men being overworked, men not being to spend money on dates, etc. Some dudes simply just can't date when they have all the skills to do so, this is what I hear at leas…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/23 06:41 PM
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But plenty are in need of therapy, and that does translate into increased chance at getting a partner. There a multiple successful men in therapy? Why is it so hard for some people to accept that maybe the reason they have difficulty dating is...because they just weren't born very good-looking? this is highly reductionist and also false as the vast majority can go gym max and look amazing afterwards. The minority who are in the LDR territory can clean themselves up and learn some conversation sk…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/23 05:34 PM
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I dont find generalizing incels like this is fair. Saying they all need to go to therapy is just toxic pop therapy lingo that needs to be done away with. Ending misandry against men is the first step towards helping them receive happy friendships and help them develop confidence. That confidence is what gives them the ability to get partners, but direcrly addressing the issue as "men can't get girlfriends" is just you spitting misandry contributing to the problem. Yes men need to hold themselves…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/23 05:29 PM
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If you're going to ignore the things that I have written, then I don't think a long diatribe that completely misses the point I'm making is going to be effective at convicing me, that I what I'm saying is not "actual facts" I'll restate my core premise. How does that stop feminist? You seriously think the vast majority of society doesn't know that mothers rape their sons or daughters? More importantly that boys can't get raped? Come on, this is you acting as if we are still in 2005. What we need…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/23 01:34 PM
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embarrasing
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/23 11:06 PM
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Not according to the law in a good few countries; "Rape" is defined as being done with a penis in the UK. You're talking about law, you know back in the day people could rape their spouse. Do you think everyone agreed to raping their spouse? Jesus man, not only are you willing to just point to traditionalist societies but you just ignore what I'm talking about. Society = america. Society =/= cross-cultures. Mary P. Koss and her ilk still inform ideas and perceptions. One women is not the spokes …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/23 05:03 PM
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do you seriously think any feminist now a days will disagree that women don't do any of those things? Anyway, MRAs are way to emotionally attached to radical feminist and misandrist feminist. It's pure stupidity derived from pure stupidity, two idiots punching each other and all feminist are doing are eating popcorn and laughing. Yes, the sub does seem to love to bash women, they just do it towards "bad" women as you are pointing out (this is what I was saying in my previous comment). Pointing o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/23 12:34 AM
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I just got to it, and I think the oneway you're going to get them maybe be to not only pose yourself as a wome but to also explain to the the misandry behind it. Unfortunately, I dont think thats gonna work either because of shit like this. They give zero fucks about women supporting men, literally calling them pick me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/23 10:27 PM
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I dont think you catching the point, there are plenty of posts you can find on r/mr that are there to bash on women. Bashing women has nothing to do with feminism also. Majority of the post that get major attention some days are these posts bashing women. Its tiring.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/23 10:21 PM
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??? this isnt the place to complain about Tyrone fucking your ex
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/23 10:02 PM
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They are pro.-choice for women but pro-life (and slogany too) for men. this is a real fucking issue, like the level of misandry and pure ignorance, maybe even willful ignorance is gonna make me snap and say some stupid shit. I can't even comprehend why men's need for reproductive rights is even up for debate among pro-choice. I wanna see if I can try to legitimize "male exclusionary pro-choice" among mras and mens advocates, because they need this terminology to call out the misandry and get ppl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/23 12:44 AM
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The greatest unveiling about feminism, is feminist hate patriarchy up until it starts making them feel some way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/23 07:54 PM
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There's actually lots of good stats dumps you can scrounge for with the search bar, such as empathy gap resource collection, the sexual abuse of men and boys master post, BOMI A, and BOMI B. I think the wiki needs improvement though. But these god posts need to be relegated into one big "book shelf" post that the mods can pin. That way new folk can see and immediately get to learning. In terms of the mood, LWMA does just feel like men's advocate library where everyone hangs out, and it's more ar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/23 05:06 PM
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Fucking exactly, bro. Got these hoes with spotaneous amnesia "forgetting" their pill and dudes getting raped by women suffering from "short-term memory loss" who can't remember there's an abortion clinic two streets over. Or even just straight up mask off bitches asking the dude to pay up 40 so she can buy a plan b. ??? I dont want to go down this route of blaming girls who don't deserve blame. Fuck this unempathetic bitch, tho.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/23 02:27 PM
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Im aware of our modern culture, and in our modern culture men and women are equally sexually shamed, but that shaming is just not that common or relevant. If im wrong, show me statistics. And no, i don't think promiscuous men were hated, but looked down upon. A man partaking in prostitution was considered shameful, i believe, but not vile. Pretty sure shit was far from good for prostitutes. Being sexually promiscuous as a women im sure resulted in lowering to such a position in society, which cl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/23 05:47 AM
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So i suppose I should look at it from a gender framework. It tends to be that women find men gross and disgusting and these women end up shaming men's sexuality, gynocentric men will perpetuate the women's complaints to get female validation. Some non-gynocentric men encourage and promote sexual jealousy over each other's sexual prowess and this too is wrapped in female validation. Some women will also encourage this male sexual prowess, these I guess would be toxic feminine chicks. And then the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/23 05:38 AM
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Slut shaming against men I think is actually kinda complex. You have some ppl who completely shame it calling men hounds and dogs but then you have others who praise it. And i think this was even the case on 1800s. A promiscuous women is just flat out shat on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/23 03:47 AM
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i mean, they're more a cult instead of a lynching squad but okay 👍
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/23 10:06 PM
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"women are wonderful" and "men are awful" would just be benevolent sexism targeting women and hostile sexism targeting men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/23 11:34 AM
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Ive been longing to watch arcane, ive seen some videos analysizing its perspectives on gender and it looks so fucking good artisticaly and in narrative as well. The complexity of masc and fem is also just beautiful at times even in the snippets Ive seen in yt reviews.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/23 10:33 PM
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okay yeah, but being against feminism doesn't equal anti-feminism. You can also be non-feminist, feminist critical, antagonistic to a particular group of feminist/feminism. Being against doesnt require antagonism, just disagreement. But being anti-feminist is inherently traditionalist / conservative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/23 07:49 PM
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I mean, there is no "type of misandry" to be against. I do have issues with the ways MRAs have gone about defining misandry, it's much like saying a matriarchy is just a gender flipped patriarchy. When you really look at misandry in the real world, it's all just empathy gap ie. the neglect of men, the disregard for men's health, the devaluing of men's concerns, putting agency upon men (vitcim blaming) etc. This is what anti-misandry means to me, its the act of being against men's issues derived …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/23 06:43 PM
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So what you're asking for is anti-misandry, not anti-feminism. What will destroying feminism do for men? Realistically. Men are still gonna get raped and ignored, men are still gonna get trafficked and ignored, men are still gonna get abused and killed by police, men's complaints are still gonna get ignored, men are still gonna be homeless, men are still gonna have gender roles imposed upon them. Why? Because these issues have always existed, and now we need to undo this misandry. "I don't think…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/23 06:13 PM
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This isn't a counter argument to what was said, and is also a pro-traditionalism statement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/23 03:56 PM
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You can't just dismiss what I'm saying by saying "all subs are echochambers" as an argument for there being a mass of secret transphobes lingering among r/MensLib. (source) transwoman's issues are not an MRM concern (source) transmen aren't real men (source) "*she" (source) still a women (source) transmen are tryhard larping (source) "is that a female? clearly the tits have been cut off" It's an unpopular majority, but stuff is pretty clearly more heavily targeted as transwomen, I just don't hav…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/23 02:57 PM
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yeah.... the A in MRA means adovcate/activist, yet apparently transphobia is rampant among MRAs. I do, because I was a part of the feminist culture. If you want to go see the ratio between pro-trans and anti-trans, u can go look at r/MensLib and you'll see the generic lefty talking points on transfolk. TERFs are RW feminst
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/23 02:15 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean in relation to my comment. But yes, MRAs probably shouldn't be supporting anti-feminist rhetoric. Feminist abolition is what traditionalist conservatives want, not what men need.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/23 02:04 PM
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not really, those are terfs. The rest of the feminist are very pro-trans
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/23 02:00 PM
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Its the fault of anti-feminism? That's the biggest no brainer. I'm pretty sure I explained how anti-feminism attracts RWers to the movement, and encourages RW sympathy inside the MRM, which then converts young men into thinking feminism is the source of all their woes. Anti-feminism is traditionalism, not even Belfort Bax was anti-feminist. Clearly anti-feminism is about abolishing feminism for the benifit of traditionalist modes of life. Not abolishing feminism to help men. Look you can confuse…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/23 01:58 PM
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I'd also add that male characters need to be more diverse. I'm basing my opinion on a couple of films/shows I watched, and everytime the men come off as caricatures and stereotype ridden while the women can have two completely different stereotypes on the masculine style women and feminine style, and even within these two styles they're personalities among the cast of other women can be drastically different. Like in the recent bladerunner and the OG bladerunner, female characters were stereotyp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/23 01:43 PM
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yes, but no. Anti-feminism on paper sounds great, but what I'm saying (which I dont think I made clear) is that in practice it results in individuals joining up with MRAs just on the basis tht they're allowed to shit on feminist/feminism among us, not because they want to help men. This is how tradcons and trads start invading the space, spouting transphobia and homophobia. Anti-feminism confuses our intent. I've talked with a couple MRAs and they are just shallow. Only able to discuss what bad …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/23 11:04 PM
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Funny enough we can take advantage of feminists' fake caring but MRAs are to obessed with anti-feminism. The populous wants to know about men's issues and yet the anti-feminism MRAs spout just makes the vast majority of these folks look to feminist who say they care, not men's advocates for questions about men. Which will only teach the populous shit like toxic masculinity, hegemonic masculinity, and shit that's literally derived from racism. Don't even get me started on the rotten with pseudo-s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/23 08:46 PM
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Thankfully we got academics focusing on men and dismantling feminist theory, that being black male studies. And I just finished listening to J. Curry's anti-misandry manifesto, it's a damn good must watch. And I'm getting through his interview by Hasan Johnson, another black male advocate, and it's good too. The issue that I have with black male studies is in its name. They only fixate upon black men (for very good reason if you go listen to the manifesto) but we need to look at all men, and can…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/23 07:39 PM
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Yep, that's MRAs. I don't have much of an opinion on all this in the post, though I do agree that we are approaching an eclipse between men's issues v. feminism so ten years from now will be interesting. But strong man posturing is lowkey a norm among some types of MRAs. Particularly, maybe exlusively, the reactionary kind who's just on the boat because we get to shit on feminist/feminism. Either they are saying, "i'm a better activist than you" or just chest puffing or trying to jab at another …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/23 03:54 PM
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I dnt get why you're arguing for feminist here, there are too many problems with this argument due to its surface level look at how men function and develop, in addition to ppl still thinking women are in perpetual damselhood. So I'll just list them out in tangents and tirades. (1) The most obvious issue with this aim of ending sexism against women is how do you expect men to be able to check other men? Do you expect a "hey stop that" that didnt work on the kids who were tossing out hard Rs in m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/23 01:14 PM
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Im already over your shit. If you dont dispute nor disagree with anything I've laid before which literaly is arguing against yout minimizations of these problems. Then why are you typing what your typing? I literally listed out every aspect of "oppression" men face (dont use this term, women arent oppressed, not even around the globe). I found this on one google search teaching intersectionality to midle schoolers If you gonna argue and try to disprove/minimize the stuff on this sub at least hav…
/r/MensRights20/07/23 01:59 PM
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You seems pretty ignorant, my friend. Boys being taught they are privileged does occur here and there on a micro-level, but its not that important. It's the lack of accountability given towards girls who do bad things towards boys. This is actually very commom and a lot of guys have experieces where girls mistreated them and no one protected him, then these boys grow up and are taught that they have privilege in middle school social studies, and in university, and throughout their life in adulth…
/r/MensRights20/07/23 01:28 PM
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nah she left after she realized she was a complete retard the moment she read that my ex was toxic. I can't believe that's our worst enemy. Fucking in STEM my ass.
/r/MensRights20/07/23 03:39 AM
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My brains melting from this. Rational doesnt equal a good thing, obviously its a rational choice to abandon a person who's falling behind. Is that a good thing? No. That's literally tossing a baby into the snow, which is also a rational choice. it's much more efficient for a woman to just make her own money some woman are poor, and dont get acess to good jobs... its a side hussle, no? buy her own shit and chicks (aka. my ex) still ask their boyfriends to buy stuff for them, and do favor for them…
/r/MensRights20/07/23 02:36 AM
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God, I can't temper myself. You're literally the dumbest npc femtard I've seen so far. Like how the fuck do ppl like you get education, is it affirmative action? You just gobble up the most confortable narrative for yourself, don't bother to actually educate yourself on men's issues and act smart, and say all men do in this sub is complain because "women are no longer property". Yeah, and guess what men still are? Property of the government. Fucking retarded privileged cunt, jesus this country's…
/r/MensRights20/07/23 02:23 AM
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As much as men's rights and men's issues in geeral are acknowledge by non-cluster b feminism. The issies men face are also cultural, aka sexism and misandry. Feminism, not even intersectional feminism, wants to buckle and acceot men as victims. The whole idea of intersectionality excludes men as a class; that being black men, gay men, trans men, etc. This is the duluth model if you yourself are a feminist trying to get MRA opinions. The duluth model in police training has officially resulted in …
/r/MensRights20/07/23 02:05 AM
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Yeah, youre a pretty weak chick, and are coming off somewhat embarrased / insecure. Once again, idk what females choosing to gold dig has to do with dowries nor some men's choices to do certain things to women. Funny enough, gold digging actually is a perfectly rational choice. You have one gender socialized to make money and then dump that money onto the prettiest thing they can find. You have people who benefit from these individuals' socialization. Those who benefit can easily take advantage …
/r/MensRights20/07/23 01:37 AM
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nah, "she's for the streets" refers to unstable and/or unrespectable women, not low socioeconomic women. Last heard at least. It was called a dowry ... You guys kinda paved the way for the gold diggers you hate so much, really. ma'am do we do dowry's in our modern day society in america? And no, men, as in 50% of the human population, did not collectively contribute to the creation of a system some men partook in. That's a fascinating realization. Bet that sucks for you you might wanna cut out t…
/r/MensRights20/07/23 12:35 AM
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Shocked... But rest in peace the homie. His death doesnt mean nothing tho, now we a have full ability to put these groups down on evidence that they pose a threat to men, good riddance and my heart goes out to his father and mother and family members. Hopefully the story pans out in our favor.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 11:28 PM
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I don't have any book reccs but if you wanna know more about black men there is Dr Hasan Johnson and he goes in depth on black men's issues, but if you kniw the general stuff men face then you gotten basically 40% of what there is to know about black male issues, he basically goes into how black men experience and interpret these issues. Edit: I believe he also offers book reccs every know again on his streams, and I reccomend watching his streams and not his videos. There's far more depth there…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/23 10:26 PM
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The biggest issue is the stigma behind male anger. So odd so many feminist perpetuate this myth that men are allowed to be angry and women not. Male anger is just tolerated, much like women crying, no one likes it, but we expect it because of stereotypes. Which is why everyone finds MRAs cringe, or incels, youre not allowed to complain, get mad while you complain and you may have just completely discredited yourself. Get angery, complain, and point to what women can get away and how men are kili…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/23 11:13 AM
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you're literally apart of the problem. You're not acknowledging male sociolization, you're placing blame on men when there is nothing about men to blame. And you literally calling all men rapist, when if you're on this sub you should know, its women who equally perpetrate sexual offenses source. Additionally you're ignoring the fact that women commit crimes on men more than they do on women. I know like 3 of my close friends who have horrible mental health and everyone know it's but it's exceedi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/23 11:49 AM
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this is rapist? we're talking about dating, the vast majority of women are fine
/r/MensRights16/07/23 10:46 AM
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downvotes mean nothing, dont be collectivistic. If you have statistic I'd like to see them
/r/MensRights16/07/23 01:48 AM
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uh, no. most relationships are fine, get off the internet.
/r/MensRights15/07/23 09:14 PM
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To me, the black family is not a good example of matrilineal system, the reason is that it is manifest in an advance society who's systems are entirely inmeshed with the expectation of monogamous pairing, not a single mother and her kids or a grand mother and her daughters and sons. But I'm not fully learned on the anthropological perspective on the black family though there are some pdf on it I think. Your comment seems contextualized in the community breakdown of the current day, not how commu…
/r/MensRights15/07/23 07:26 PM
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yeah, and i said that's reductionist and pointed out why it was reductionist. Men making money ≠ men have power.
/r/MensRights15/07/23 06:59 PM
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Yes, your irrational, read this if your concerned about dating females. And dont bother caring about your family's nagging for kids, parents' obsession with their kids' dicks is the weirdest aspects of this world. the vast majority of chicks are fine, some of them are annoying and once in a while you'll find a crazy chick, and rarely you'll stumble across an abuser.
/r/MensRights15/07/23 06:53 PM
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See nah, a matrilineal extended household I'd argue is actually far healthier than the traditional monogamous household. And what I mean by that is that traditional monogamy provides less social bonding from father to child for various reasons, one of these is stress, anxiety, and depression which a experiencing this can fuck up a child all bu itself. And I can only assume these ailments are far more rampant under the nuclear family. In a matrilineal extended household far more investment comes …
/r/MensRights15/07/23 12:27 PM
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feminist hypocrasy, and seeing the mistreatment of abused men at the hands of feminist organization.
/r/MensRights15/07/23 03:15 AM
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This is the exact way I think of monogamy is an invention. It serves such an economy value to restrict sex to monogamous marriage, because it weaponizes the male sex drive to whip men into becoming money making machines. ie. men want sex, no porn or jerking off and no sex before marriage allowed and paying prostitutes is a low brow practice, therefore he can only get sex by getting a wife, no contraception = guarenteed babies, more babies equals more work effort by the man or he risks legal puni…
/r/MensRights15/07/23 02:02 AM
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Never said humans were not promiscious, monogamy is an invention for men to obtain paternal certainty just as horses are tamed to make traveling easier on our bodies. Promiscuity is a tool that women can use to leverage a matriarchal social structure. And i think its rather apprent men do have a drive for paternal certainty, two factors come to mind: (1) step parents are more likely to abuse their step child, men representing more here (2) men invest more time into their children, and i think th…
/r/MensRights15/07/23 01:34 AM
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I mean its a pretty ignorant and reductionist argument in the face of our ancestral environmemt of foragers. Yes, this factors into the development of patriarchy, but monogamy is the reason why this factor of patriarchy manifests to begin with. Patriarchy literally cannot exist without monogamy becuase paternal certainty is necessery for the patri- of the archy to even exist let alone be catered to legally. Men generally want their paternal certainty as much as women need support for their repro…
/r/MensRights15/07/23 12:40 AM
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i can barely watch this. MRAs shouldnt bother to debate the feminist culture. Its a waste of time and energy, they are the heart amd cogs of the empathy gap and have no care to educate themselves on mens issue. Sam himself even makes this clear, that he doesnt even know the basics of empathy gap. Just stop bothering and do what MTGOW do and ignore them, laugh at their stupidity, and live your happiest life under a dog shit culture. The age of debating feminist has past just try to make change in…
/r/MensRights14/07/23 11:26 PM
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same, bump
/r/MensRights13/07/23 10:41 PM
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I just looked at mommit and daddit and the difference gave me a good laugh, the dads are just doing dad stuff while the moms sound like theyre in crisis with the occasional sprinkle of misandry.
/r/MensRights13/07/23 10:09 PM
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Majority of the time I see ppl debunk male disposability, they point to some women in a third world country, because they confuse disposabiliy with objectification or confuse violence with disposability. In example, they point fingers to china and show that girls are aborted because sons bring in money. This really isnt female disposability but sex based objectification, where girls are seen as economic burdens, due to their "inferior" biology. Male objectifiation is subsequently at play here in…
/r/MensRights11/07/23 04:56 PM
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bro, you just said you've never lacked foreskin your entire life and end up saying having a foreskin is nothing crazy. Losing foreskin literally kills the nerves on your glans, loss of the foreskin itself reduces stimulas during penetration because that flap of skin isnt rubbing on the corona. Jesus christ
/r/MensRights11/07/23 12:17 PM
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That’s a cultural internal thing only men can fix. I'm assuming what you mean by this quote is that men are to blame for cheering on boys getting raped? This is idiotic and reductionist in so many ways that hint that your just avoid blaming your own identity for the act of a boy being raped by a women. Your comments here are also generally speaking retarded as well, except some minor misguided idiocy. So two things. Is it necessery to explain to a feminist that women are the one's who perpetuate…
/r/MensRights10/07/23 07:04 PM
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go read feminst history and what mainstream femtards say. The most rudamentary form of cultural misandry perpetrated by feminism is the weaponization and maintanance of the man as perpetrator belief. This has resulted in men's deaths, and no, I wouldnt be surprised if the rise of male suicides was caused by this act of feminism. Feminist continue to minimize and, at the extreme, deny misandry, such as what your doing here. You can say "that's those feminist" all you want but 'those feminist' are…
/r/MensRights07/07/23 09:12 PM
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there is no research on misandry let alone internalized misandry. But, what you can do is look at hedgemonic masculinity resarch and toxic masculinitty esearch and jist sift through the nonsense and victim blaming. I honestly have no clue where else you can find academic info nor well-researched info on internalized misandry
/r/MensRights02/07/23 12:59 AM
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one cant trully know misandry until they realize their mother is more willing to call the cops on them than their sister in the middle of a screaming match.
/r/MensRights02/07/23 12:53 AM
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I just wanted to drive home the point that violence exists because it can exist, not because men exist and are made to be better at it because of the way sexual dimorphism effects the human species. I wouldnt go into this deepend of associating violencecwith human nature. You're p much teetering in the realm of men do violence because they can. Which is actually negligent to the possibility for why violence exists and the viability of putting an end to it, and pushes you into feminist territory …
/r/MensRights01/07/23 11:31 AM
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Maybe missing one last one? That if she ends up abusing you, you should initiate the divorce before she does. So she can't call you the abuser as easily.
/r/MensRights30/06/23 11:03 AM
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tru but this is getting pretty close to home turf. At least it doesnt seem they are looking at MRAs to blame and instead are basically calling the dude an incel and saying incels are terrorists. Also it doesnt seem the event is causing a major outrage, so thats interesting.
/r/MensRights30/06/23 12:47 AM
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i have no clue how you go from this but the societal factors which lead men to commit more crimes [...] to this and men being raised with male privilege. wtf even are u saying my guy LOL, do you not realize the men who commit violence and crime are the ones who are disadvantaged and result to crime? You just pointed out to why black men result to crime more and saying "well, black men commit more crime because they are privileged by their maleness." huh? Is a black woman engaging in a revolt aga…
/r/MensRights27/06/23 02:27 PM
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U pretty much hit it on the nail for me. Though here's the thing: who really cares? Toxic masculinity and this shit attempt at rebranding it into positive masculinity is just some pop culture garbage that the mass will gobble up because they have no education in the matter, and personally don't give enough fucks to educate themselves, which I don't blame them. I and you, and hopefully everyone who reads this can see that it's pointless to talk about on a day to day interactions level. Now the is…
/r/MensRights27/06/23 04:01 AM
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no co-habitation, all problems solved.
/r/MensRights26/06/23 07:20 PM
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i mean, u can go down the route of evopsyche to explain it, some ppl say it was harsher back then and so the woman who could devalue her partner and effectively turn him into an extension of her body to ward off those who could harm her were more reproductiveky successful, hence her neoteny. The more neotenous the woman the more she triggers men's paternalism. Or u have male on male competition created by womans desire for high status men, which then causes her to look at the men hypergamously, …
/r/MensRights26/06/23 12:03 PM
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i mean yes, but apply this to race and u'll get different stories, let alone that ur forgetting that ppl stereotype men in general. No level of self-esteem is gonna stop a stereotype. Idk about this "negative ideology" you gesturing to. All this sub does is point out the word we live in, if a guy here overdoses on the negativity then he needs to step outside and experience the world beyond the snippets of negativity we emphasize here.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 11:15 PM
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from my perspective, ye EDIT: and in cultures with homosexuality punished by execution, lesbians tend to not get executed
/r/MensRights24/06/23 08:47 PM
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yeah, and the real issue underlying it all on both sides of "gay is punishable" and "gay is liberating" is the normalized homophobia against men. Which surprisingly we're still pretty homophobic towards men in our society, and feminist only make it worse by saying homophobia is misogyny.
/r/MensRights24/06/23 08:37 PM
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If ur posting here asking if ur an abuser, of course ur not. But u two need to seperate cause this is toxic as shit. He's a shithead that's pushing you into abusing him back and escalating things on purpose and pussying out when he sees ur not a push over or when he's gonna get caught with DV charge. He is unintentionally manipulating you into thinking he loves you because of this, i imagine he might be genuine in his love, but we have to be frank, its not a healthy attachement and is not what u…
/r/MensRights23/06/23 08:56 PM
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I thought the 'wage gap' was debunked some time ago - at least in the EU. no, unfortunately... the CEO feminist are clinging onto the "its sexism!" argument despite the major factor in the gap being pregenancy and women's choice to be closer to the family. Which they lovingly call the "pregnancy tax" last i heard, so shows u how much they love being moms.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 11:16 PM
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Nah, bro, ur forgetting moms and sisters are most affected after their sons get repeatedly raped and beaten and shoved to their death.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 11:02 PM
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uh. So your saying war good? Wow.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 09:43 PM
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Men are drafted because they are more physically capable of fight in wars this is what male disposability means women are a more important reproductive asset compared to men. this is also why male disposability exists
/r/MensRights22/06/23 09:34 PM
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I don't much buy into that feminist line fair enough, i dont either
/r/MensRights22/06/23 08:57 PM
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okay
/r/MensRights22/06/23 08:51 PM
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also black bags? is that islamophobia?
/r/MensRights22/06/23 08:47 PM
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i already as a guy dont get to walk around with dress in america, and in some places i could get gang raped or gay bashed for doing so. needing your male guardian's permission to go do things. im pretty sure as a women im allowed to ask for sex, cook my own food, watch tv, and wipe my own ass whilst looking bomb as fuck in a hijab. Thats 90% of my day in america anyway.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 08:47 PM
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woman
/r/MensRights22/06/23 08:35 PM
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im expecting a flood of femtards
/r/MensRights22/06/23 08:18 PM
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I'll take this oportunity to ask since you seems like a more invested christian in contrast to the 'christians' i grew up around. Do you think the bible contains any form of misandry? Just like how the feminist say ot contains and enforces misogynistic values, does it do the same for men? Also, al this seems pretty interesting to look more into as from my experiences christians are the most dedicated to circumcision in contrast to the secular crowd, who themselves have their problems but I feel …
/r/MensRights22/06/23 05:34 PM
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What works do you live in that a man is obligated to “chaperone” another grown ass adult. the middle east? and as for "violence against women", stastically this is irrelevent in the vast majority of circmstances involving interpersonal conflict and rape, as these violent behaviors by men (which women also kill women, women also abuse women, and women also assault women) is brought forth by violence against men; ie. child abuse against boys, abuse against men, police brutality and over policing, …
/r/MensRights21/06/23 10:12 PM
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Yeah, never disagreed, but the treatment of this as apoocolyptic for women and that only women are effected, and that men are in the lap of luxury is a flawed thinking to me. Restricting women also equals restricting men, doing such is bad for both. I do oppose male guardianship, and for this reason alone, but the irrationality on how their entire culture opporates by westerners is too much.
/r/MensRights21/06/23 09:59 PM
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So u must also agree that in reality keeping women in a position where their safety can be maximized is actually a privilege for them. That then, in the case of a man being obligated to chaperone for a women is maybe a violation of the man's right to autonomy and not the woman's?
/r/MensRights21/06/23 08:52 PM
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i mean, yeah, cats literally do nothing but get pampered all day, they dont have provide food for the selves, they get free toys and free attention all day, they get bathed, they get to rip things apart in the home without punishment, and are often allowed to run around outside if they're owner lets them. Id ratyer take the hit on my life exectancy and lack of medical insurrance and be a cat than be a guy. The suicide rates for men there are much higher than the suicide rates here, so idk about …
/r/MensRights21/06/23 08:42 PM
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I dont see the issue? Seems good, eating disorders are unsurprisingly underdiagnosed in men last i checked, pressure to look away is growing in men, beauty standards going up for us. And the gay community the most guilty of male objectification. These dudes look like ur average guys off the street, nothing more nothing less. Pretty good step forward in the department. Which is not saying much, especially from liberal/feminist culture.
/r/MensRights21/06/23 07:10 PM
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do you think its deprving men of 'rights' to force them to work, and not giving them the option to be caretakers?
/r/MensRights21/06/23 06:50 PM
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uh, are u from saudi arabia? Should probably look into what ur saying before u go about having a temper tantrum. Men's attire is often just as uniform and strict, and the idea: restricting wonen≠restricting men is incredibly stupid. Neither sex is allowed to have sex before marriage, and men are expected to pay full sum for the wedding even if his future wife makes more than him. Men are forced to work as usual with no other option, but women can get the option to work and go to school (if given…
/r/MensRights21/06/23 06:45 PM
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pretty much
/r/MensRights21/06/23 04:47 PM
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yep thats the paradox "why didnt you defend yourself!", defends himself, ends up in jail ppl really treat men and women's power dynamic like a fist fight. Fucking idiots.
/r/MensRights21/06/23 02:51 PM
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its funny how neither abuse or rape against women are ever motivated by the deemed political motives of men against women under the so-called patriarchy, and instead is just bad ppl doing bad things, due to bad upbringing and poor socialization, in a shitty environment. But here we are still stuck in the 1920s.
/r/MensRights21/06/23 12:44 AM
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what's the purpose of asking this question?
/r/ExRedPill20/06/23 12:55 PM
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Okay, so what do you think is the morality behind the concept of being a bigot? (morally good? morally bad?) This is the crux of your entire argument. And no, this "I prefer to find community with non-bigots" is blatantly shaming others in the manner of (a) when done in this specific context, whether or not the word bigot is used. "I prefer to find community with non-queers" "I prefer to find community with non-males" "I prefer to find community with non-females" in response to; because communit…
/r/ExRedPill20/06/23 12:53 PM
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yeah, close. How i interpret it is that its two fold in meaning. Like, u shouldnt laugh at how someone gets harrased, killed ever, ur suppose to take that seriosly just as much as ull take any harrassment / murder seriously, but understand the underlying components, this underlying component u laugh at because it almost feels inescapable, what else is there to do. the second meaning is what ur saying. They're often idiots, the men and women who are outspokenly racist. Therefore u laugh at it all…
/r/ExRedPill20/06/23 11:51 AM
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i dont think u understand whats being said, but that's okay, I'll explain using (a) and (b) (a) When you take a person who is unaffiliated with another thing, and tell them they are not allowed to go there because over there is 'bad' in addition they arent allowed to say certain things or behave in a certain way because that would be 'bad', this is where I would use controlling, as this goes against my peference to let ppl have their opinions and self expression of ideas. (b) when u have a group…
/r/ExRedPill20/06/23 11:32 AM
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you used the word bigot, and implied that hanging around the redpill crowd is prefering to hang around bigots (ie. the bad). "I prefer to find community with non-bigots." I have no clue where my strawman is, but I would like to see him, I miss him so much, y'know?
/r/ExRedPill20/06/23 03:00 AM
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jesus the level of comprehension of you ppl have of your own beliefs... So when you tell someone that theyre bad for hanging around a group of ppl, what are you doing to that person? When you do that action, was it a good action or a bad action? Why did you do that action? Was it motivated by belief that hanging around those group of ppl is bad, or that hanging around those group of ppl will further perpetuate a system that hurts others? Now, after you answer these three questions, let's think a…
/r/ExRedPill20/06/23 02:30 AM
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I am primarily friends with men. I do not think every man is an abuser. we all have a black bestfriend, its okay. But to break into what your saying. Its not whether you think or you dont, its your implicit attitudes and default assumptions towards what was written. You assume by default he's abusive by saying what he expects out of the relationship up front. He sounds like a guy who knows what he's looking for yes? You instead interpret this as controlling, will you say that a women who does th…
/r/ExRedPill20/06/23 02:18 AM
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hmmm? It's nice to feel apart of a sexist community? hm. I guess im projecting, sorry, bud.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/23 02:02 AM
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yeah, this place reeks, as is usual with most pro-feminist/feminist subs. The majority all become androphobia dens, fucking yawn...
/r/ExRedPill20/06/23 01:42 AM
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yeah, sucks that your criteria for being around ppl is whether or not they agree with u, but the world is full of give and take, some are able to handle a disagreement, others are too afraid of disagreement. At the end of it all, we balance each other out.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/23 01:39 AM
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yeah, this is called gender stereotyping. Instead, the comment reads as a man dictating to a woman how things are going to be, with rules about who she engages with, what she wears, and where she goes. From her, instead of enthusiastic participation, we get a passive “didn’t have a problem with it.” you are pointing out how humans normally talk to each other my man. People have basic responses to basic shit, and also your looking way to fucking deep into what was a casual undescriptive answer. I…
/r/ExRedPill20/06/23 01:37 AM
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yes
/r/ExRedPill20/06/23 01:26 AM
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and i prefer ppl not obessed with ideology and controlling other ppls behaviours and beliefs, who can just let others breath and think freely who you can engage with and improve your ideas and perspectives about the world from. here's a tip from my uncle "learn to laugh at racism" u sound like your begging for a soft cushioned world where no one is allowed to swear. Its a pretty pathetic desire, but live where you want.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/23 01:26 AM
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idk what was wrong with what he said? But holy hell, man. You seem to think a guy having standards is misogynistic
/r/ExRedPill20/06/23 12:24 AM
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because community? because its nice to feel apart of something? because individuals can enjoy things? U care way to much about what ppl say online if your crying about sexism from an often irrelavent section of the internet.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/23 12:19 AM
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My guy, this is not equivalent to complaining about the patriarchy? And no the women who peer pressured him into relapsing should be held accountable if your gonna hold ppl accountable. Alcholism and substance abuse disproportionately affect men (2022 paper) (AddictionCenter) and have long standedly impacted them since for as long as we can remember. Idk how you can equate this to "bitching about the patriarchy." What your saying to me, is that the only popular space online that expesses compass…
/r/MensRights20/06/23 12:02 AM
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mind sharing the post from that subreddit?
/r/MensRights19/06/23 10:55 PM
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i can assure this is who feminist are. Frequently stating it would be so nice to have a war, calling random dudes a creep despite being kind and generous, saying its normal to hit him if he slacking about. One, telling her daughter her depressed alcoholic father is a deadbeat and that she needs to find a man who can love her. This is feminism behind closed door. Your average chick is not like this, in fact the exact opposite.
/r/MensRights19/06/23 09:13 PM
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if you're in an mra sub and calling men experiencing substance abuse weak, especially after they've loss their life to it. Id reccomend you check out a different sub, maybe a feminist sub like 2x would be more up your alley. This is far from being pro-male if this is your attempt, let alone anti-male behavior. Its simply a pathetic projection of your own insecurities onto a man who loss his life like many in this shit anti-male culture.
/r/MensRights19/06/23 09:02 PM
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This would undoubtely be good since it grabs female sympathy and of course living in a gynocentric world it would help bluepill dudes look at MRAs in a different light instead of seeing male mras complain and calling them incels (despite themselves having faced issues mras have long pointed out...) And honestly, having a more women oriented perspective on mens issues and anti-feminism centered on the female perspective of feminism would be highly refreshing, and i think a lot of guys here would …
/r/MensRights18/06/23 08:25 PM
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the first post i saw was about celibrating and honoring women who died from childbirth, and bringing up some legitemate concerns (article) I dont disagree with it, as this is why we need medically necessery abortions and where lack of it impacts men, but there are so many ways fathers can lose their family completely or partially, ie. abuse/parental alienation, false allegation, divorce court bias, financially unable to support, etc. This is just one of them that should be given awareness too. B…
/r/MensRights18/06/23 12:21 PM
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independence, as in being able too cook your own food, cut your own hair, being able to repair your own home, change your own oil, etc. And never letting ppl take advantage of your independence to treat u as a utility instead of a person. Discipline and self-control is up there too.
/r/MensRights17/06/23 10:05 PM
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doesnt feel real but at the same time, he does work for the government so makes sense the level of emotional numbing needed to do that on top of the pressure to express yourself that way as a guy.
/r/MensRights17/06/23 12:33 PM
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how did he underestimate it?
/r/MensRights16/06/23 11:45 PM
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Yeah, i believe the basic premise is one of religious origin, y'know the whole "don't succumb to the desires of the flesh." I think its rather important though, despite me not being religious, that many dudes may benefit if they saw their being as a split between two entities "the person" and "the animal" especially in regards to porn consumtion and sex addiction. Would be way more beneficial for them in this world of stimulus, in contrast to the current cultural messages that we are just mind a…
/r/MensRights16/06/23 10:30 PM
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There was (and in many cases still is) an expectation towards woman to stay at home (and towards men to go to work). This is what is called internalised oppression. [...] We need to get rid of these expectations in order to give men and woman actual free choice. Idk how I misinterpreted what your saying, what you're conveying is that a women who chooses to be a housewife, is literally not making a choice to be a housewife, instead she is underprivileging herself (oppressing herself, via 'interna…
/r/MensRights16/06/23 10:04 PM
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okay, so. The women who wants to be a caretaker wife instead of a career women is expressing internalized oppression? I already pointed this out as misogyny, and an attempt to control female behavior. And no, you are feigning about a belief that women were locked inside the castle until lesbian feminists rescued them. Women have always been able to work outside the home, just not male dominated spheres, which doesnt apply to our present society. And here is marie curie with two nobel prizes desp…
/r/MensRights16/06/23 06:48 PM
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oppression is not advantages v. disadvantages, to say this is to say getting pregnant is oppression, that fenale biology oppresses the female herself. U sound rediculous, and invoking the belief of female biological inferiority. Oppression is a deliberate act of supression plus exploitation by one group to another that is not mutual, as in it is unidirectional (what i mean here is imposing war onto another doesnt equate to oppression, but war is the likely first step towards an oppression). this…
/r/MensRights16/06/23 04:26 PM
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there is a gender neutral one iirc, but imma guess its not popular
/r/MensRights16/06/23 02:49 PM
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Just remember, if she hits you its preemptive self-defence, don't intimidate her next time.
/r/MensRights16/06/23 02:45 PM
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bro im serious! This is actually works lmao
/r/MensRights15/06/23 07:36 PM
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yeah, its quite usefully, im not joking. And Im trying to get better at this by understanding more of male biology, so I can more accurately delineate 'my person' from 'my animal', thats gonna take a while, but fuck itll be worth, especially for mrm stuff.
/r/MensRights15/06/23 07:00 PM
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For fuck sake right? I saw this two days ago and was gonna post about it but somone beat me to it. I cant even fathom how one can see all the events here and call it, "woman's 'heinous' messages to estranged boyfriend" ppl simply cant call it male abuse, our culture is controlled by sociopaths, i tell u. But I'm going to outlive her just to spite her. She will never be able to dance in my grave. If she lives to be 100, I'll live till 100 and 1 day. stay healthy, chief o7
/r/MensRights15/06/23 06:45 PM
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personally im undiagnosed, but I do get the strong feel i might have a binging eating problem. Im not sure how u can support because im not sure if its differently expressed in men. But for me, ive went on a philosophical adventure a while back, and itll sound pretty weird im aware. So basically, Ive seperated two aspects of my self following a very crude understanding of body-mind dualism, with this I view these impulses and spontaneous desires as the body an entity which i personally label the…
/r/MensRights15/06/23 04:10 PM
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well you never specified the west when it comes to rights. But if we are to look at the west, fixating specifically on amerca, there are plenty of on going shifts amounting to enactement of suppressing queerness and an attempt to impose a dont ask dont tell practice to understanding queerness as a culture. Ultimately, take this new shift to its extreme and we can see a possible future of executions or less severely conversion therapy being normalized. This is the threat of rights, if we are to h…
/r/MensRights15/06/23 03:19 PM
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some women really do just wanna monopolize human misery
/r/MensRights15/06/23 02:52 PM
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im going to assume your female, so when guys say "no one cares about men", "no one cares about me", or whatever. What they're saying is that "as a man, I have to suffer sufficiently enough and/or in a culturally acceptable manner for ppl to care that I suffer." And even then, these ppl who 'care' only care to the extent that they feel bad for you. No one wants to fix your problems, and at times, not even your dad. They expect you (the man) to fix it urself.
/r/MensRights15/06/23 02:49 PM
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well heres two basic things i can give off the top of my head that are akin to lacking rights. Gay men often dont have the right to marry in some major places, neither do they have a right to life and liberty as they can be imprisoned or executed if they are found out to be gay. Trans people, focusing on transgirls, have the same exact issues as gay men pre-transition (especially if they are heterosexual and trans) due to homophobic society perceiving them as simply femgays. The one thing they h…
/r/MensRights15/06/23 02:14 PM
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jesus man. thanks for finding that
/r/MensRights14/06/23 12:15 PM
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There was a case about a year or two ago where a kid called the cops because the wife was abusing the husband - the police came and shot and killed the husband. do you happen to have an article about the case?
/r/MensRights14/06/23 02:21 AM
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Yeah, in HS but not anything crazy, just misandry. Essentially, i had p moderate depression growing up, been unmedicated for ADHD since 13 too. keeping it short, thought about self deketion a bunch, grades were slipping, never took showers, and checked out of my future. My counselor at the time called me up, due to my poor work quality (nothing else to call me in for because I was practically a vegitable in every class), her entire body language was an eye roll when I walked in. And I told her "…
/r/MensRights14/06/23 02:05 AM
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ive seen that sub and its good but there's not enough traffick there to keep it in the back of my head, unfortunately. I'll look into Dr Curry and Hasan, tho, never heard of them till now.
/r/MensRights13/06/23 05:45 PM
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yeah... that last stuff seems like a whole matter, and is something im pretty unfamiliar with. But this is what a prominent member of the mrm has said (35:26-40:10) and r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates has some posts regarding the same perspective: maleness is the issue, and blackness combines with for harsher outcomes on black men, that it isnt just maleness and it isnt just blackness. There are lots of good post there in general if you want reprieve from this sub. But yeah, the need to create spaces to…
/r/MensRights13/06/23 01:55 PM
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yeah... that last stuff seems like a whole matter, and is something im pretty unfamiliar with. But this is what a prominent member of the mrm has said (35:26-40:10) and r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates has some posts regarding the same perspective: maleness is the issue, and blackness combines with for harsher outcomes on black men, that it isnt just maleness and it isnt just blackness. There are lots of good post there in general if you want reprieve from this sub. But yeah, the need to create spaces to…
/r/MensRights13/06/23 01:55 PM
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Did people really consider them men? do you then think that transwomen's issues are an MRM concern and that we should put effort in raising their voices in the mrm?
/r/MensRights13/06/23 01:04 PM
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yeah, im genuinely shocked too at the unironic literal 1:1 gender reveresed variant of TERFs in this sub. Ive been giggling for a good ten minutes about the "they don't have the same childhood of misery as real men" or the fucking paranoid "they're gonna take over the MRM if we let them in!" I've always looked at the TERFs as girls who make shrines to their pussies and paint with their period blood. Now I'm just waiting for some TEMRAs to make frozen cum sculptures and custom made phallic statue…
/r/MensRights13/06/23 01:00 PM
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well, some of the transmen are feminist indoctrinated and are more r/menslib types, who scream about patriarchy and how bad men are whilst transitioning to a guy, and still end up screaming patriarchy at the end of it all. So idk about gesturing their honorability for willfully choosing tortured exist if they view it as liberating themselves from torture.
/r/MensRights13/06/23 12:43 PM
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would just be TEMRA all mrm members are innately radical, cause how could you not be in this world.
/r/MensRights13/06/23 12:27 PM
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if im grasping what your saying, ur still lacking. I don't agree with the full extrapolation I see some members of the mrm do: trans men have issues that are trans issues and mens issues, gay men have issues that are gay issues and mens issues, maybe some mras would even go to the extent that black men have black issues and mens issues. Then follow with the sentiment that we should only focus on mens issues because were mras. This is flawed and to me, a self-destructive sentiment to place upon t…
/r/MensRights13/06/23 12:25 PM
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well, here's the issues from the MRM perspecive. You say this. maybe it’s from some harbored insecurities but every single female friend of mine or a acquaintance has experienced some form of assault or rape have you asked your male friend(s), aquaintances, family members or partner the same question? whether or not they experienced something similar? (and if you are to, its best to understand that men see things differently, a guy may interpret getting jumped as not victimization but as him fuc…
/r/MensRights13/06/23 11:23 AM
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my girlfriend was talking about similar shit too from a couple women at her last job. Not sure if this is discrimination though. Just seems like asshole behavior from women.
/r/MensRights10/06/23 11:29 AM
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god the uk sounds dystopian
/r/MensRights08/06/23 07:50 PM
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To add onto this There is also work place harrasment which drives individuals out of their job. And so we know here, some elementary school teachers who are male quit due to pedo hysteria and overall sexism against men. Women in male atypical work experience similar stuff, thus they find work elsewhere if they cant cope. Directing women towards female atypical work.
/r/MensRights07/06/23 06:53 PM
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everything you described is how women act in dating, none of it is unique to redpill guys. "you just gender reversed women" = you took how women act in dating and swapped the gender terminology. Making ppl clap at their bias that these dudes are in fact amoral freaks who plague womens lives in this oppressive society, when you have chicks who do the same thing and think in the same way when dating guys.
/r/ExRedPill31/05/23 10:41 AM
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you just gender reversed women
/r/ExRedPill31/05/23 02:18 AM
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there is no logic in narcassism my friend
/r/MensRights28/05/23 07:15 PM
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Probably because most people are unaware that it’s so common. Id argue they are highly aware of this. The simple fact we still live in a world where even feminist say or make gesture to the belief of "men are sex crazed" is key, and this is far more intense when it comes to boys post-puberty. This is the shock reducer. Women and girls are seen as almost lacking horniness by ppl, which contributes to our shock of girls experiencing this crime. But we have this other perception which is that women…
/r/MensRights28/05/23 01:41 AM
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the most misandric ones are in fact male feminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/23 11:02 AM
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funny enough I was learning about the history of the men's movement in america, and in actuality we would have a men's movement today, and I'm certain a lot of male issues would be behind us today. As both men's liberation and women's liberation came up around the 70s. But nope, MLM proper died. Instead what the women's liberation movement did was set expectation for men's liberation, and because men liberation was built on stopping stereotyping against men and women and viewed women as perpetra…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/23 11:00 AM
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but i really wonder why are men so apathetic towards each other ? if only a small percentage of men donated few dollars he would a have succeed I don't think this is a rhetorical question unless I'm an idiot, but if you read my last message the answer is obvious. Disincentivize bad behaviour that would encourage bad outcomes for men. Its literally what we did for women, we shamed ppl for doing misogyny thus made it taboo / faux pas to do sexism against women. Literally do the same thing for men,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/23 05:44 PM
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I like thinking of it this way, men are socialized to kill each other. "Boys don't hit girls", but never "boys don't hit boys": maybe you'll hear "ppl don't hit ppl" but even that ignores maleness. Then you have the normalization violence against men by both female and male perpetrators in media treated as an expectation, but violence against women might as well be exotic outside of context where she's punching ppl. And even that in sports and public reactional spaces (for example a bar fight) p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/23 11:15 AM
2

masculinity is not positive or negative, it has never been, to label is incredibly sexist hence why sexist traditionalist have ease jumping onto a feminist concept. Some guys act poor in relation to achieving masculinity, most would call this guy toxic with his gender. As in using his gender to do bad (using his privilege to do bad) This is idiotic because all he is attempting to do, and what all men in general are attempting to do, is be masculine. As in, to himself, he lacks masculinity theref…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/23 12:25 PM
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these constant comparisons between women with black ppl and men with white ppl, and thus patruarchy as being vaguely being white supremacy like and white nationalisyic but male and neo-nazi-esque. Will, literally give me a stress induced heart attack. everyday one year of my life expectancy goes down
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/23 03:22 AM
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What discrimination exactly? 60yo women remembering lacking bank accounts is irrelavent to a 40yo women, let a lone a 20yo women. Abortion also impacts mens lives as well, it is simultaneously a men's issue as it is a women's issue. Needing permission to get access to surgical sterilization is one issue that iirc has been addessed or is in the process of being addressed so is a minimal concern for women as of date, if not then idk why they aren't addessing it. What is unique to women in american…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/23 02:20 AM
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Are you gonna dodge a very simple and specified question?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/23 10:51 PM
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its all reletive to her body it seems, women have agecy in regards to her body, but not her actions. Men have agency in regards to their actions, but not their body. The sexism being "Men are quick to spread their seed" lining up with the sexism of "he can't help himself" While girls are slut shamed for having sex, something they choose to let happen to their body, so if they get preg thats on them, in the minds of sexists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/23 08:55 PM
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how much of human history is relevent to present society in america?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/23 08:47 PM
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"A man has everything but love, and a women has all the love to select but poverty behind her." Simply refers to women not being able to work or prefering not to work back in the day. So a man works and gathers the resources then marries a women and passes his resources onto her for her reproductive needs and such, and passes his resources onto his children for their needs and such. A women simply gives nothing to a man beyond her love, so all a man ends up looking for is love. She on the other …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/23 08:50 PM
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What parts do you disagree with?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/23 06:58 PM
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I haven't done any research on hypergamy yet, but I find it odd the level of biological determinism you guys engage with with theories such as hypergamy and male disposability. These concepts are there, but they're blatantly sociological. As for hypergamy, saying it is an immutable characteristic that will never go away because women are hardwired to be this because something something estrogen, is just blackpill interpretation. Even on the wikipedia they say that in more egalitarian countries, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/23 12:24 PM
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bro, don't lil bro if you're gonna lil bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 01:06 PM
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men are actually not praised for being promiscuous. For young men, its more of a 'oh, look at you' kind of attitude I get from how society treats them, though I think this has changed post 2000s as I saw a kid in middle school get slut shamed by a male teacher. So, In reality, as a man gets older, I believe we see his promiscuity as a kind of immaturity, or at least just plain disgusting. Male sexuality, is in fact the icky sexuality, in contrast to the sensual and silky sexuality of women. So, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/23 03:50 AM
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i mean its literally called an essay
/r/MensRights03/04/23 09:43 PM
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what happens when you think your on the moral high ground, start thinking others are over exageratting their statements because 'it's not that bad' 'we got it worse here, so idk why your putting in so much effort there.' Welcome to the feminist mind.
/r/MensRights03/04/23 01:35 PM
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Well when you say 'complain', do you think men were allowed to complain if we're getting bullied today for complaining, and who would've told men to suck it up if women are the majority other half of society, with 20% of men at the decision making level, and 40% of men at the voting level (guessetimated percentages) And when you say men were the one's making the rules, I ask, at what point did women actually put effort to oppose any rules put upon men, to support men and give men assistance in t…
/r/MensRights03/04/23 01:19 PM
0

Feminism is something worth hating and the existence of the MRM is legitimate. 1st wave feminist was wonen's rights, that's what MRAs are not against, as by the statement we frequentky spit "women's rights doesn't equal feminism" "feminism doesn't equal women". Though there are bad things with 1st wave feminism, it was majority good. Women's liberation is the entirety of modern day feminism (2nd, 3rd, 4th wave feminism), and this is the part that all MRAs I think hate, because of the betrayal as…
/r/MensRights03/04/23 01:10 PM
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You mean "the chemist had sparked the thing, and then they ran away." ? Or "the dog and the cat ran towards the tree and they climbed up it" In the second one you can just restate the noun, in the first there is literally no confusion. edit: in the second one you can easily tell 'they' refers to the cat because typically cats climb trees, dogs dont. edit edit: im fucking dumb lol, I used and. They refers to the cordinated nouns, it should be, "the cat was chased by the dog and they climbed the t…
/r/MensRights02/04/23 02:22 AM
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helps keep the brain smooth
/r/MensRights01/04/23 12:51 PM
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low tier troll, try one more time
/r/MensRights01/04/23 01:26 AM
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tldr, its a long one, last paraghraph has my opinion As something a bit personal to me, I can say that if your nearing the territory of highschool dropout. It's a mix bag of ppl caring and ppl not. The most ingrained into my mind experience, was in highschool, where I was going through a bad depression and struggled social, skipping class because I was terrified of doing presentation (social anxiety) Ds and Fs student, highest grade was a B which was art class, where I was most happy because I h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/23 04:44 PM
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welcome to the post-intersectional world, where people can't take paper cuts anymore, and instead yell at people who are getting their fingers cut off. Because **insert law in the 1700s** because **insert justification on why 3 hundred year time gap is irrelavent** because **insert generational oppression from historical institutional oppression**
/r/MensRights30/03/23 12:19 PM
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i think there's a lot of things that can be classified as legit self harm, a kin to cutting yourself, but im not sure on the scientific validity of some.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/23 10:49 PM
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(read) toxic masculinity is a pointless term that turns everything into a man problem. We can just say male socialization and acknowledge that women harm men in this socialiation process, we've had this term since the 1940s. We don't need a malicious version coming from a self-imposed high horse thinking everyone else is in delusion, and they're the eligtened one escaped from the echochamber
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/23 09:50 PM
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I'm only realizing now that the 'criminal' 'rapist' 'worker' 'male nurse' problem is actually a means of producing, or at least normalizing, men as violent and uncaring, and other stereotypes, but these two are the most damaging. Probably the source of how we learn to stereotype men as bad, no way it comes from the father in contrast to female stereotypes which seems to come from maternal bonding. Another form of institutional misandry added to the list.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/23 03:48 AM
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the best part is when they delete the post
/r/MensRights29/03/23 03:41 AM
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Ive thought about this, and it really doesn't make sense if you don't believe in feminist conceptions of patriarchy as in gender relations akin to race relations. If violence against women is gendered, then violence against men is gendered inheretly due to the gendering against women. Unless you wanna deny that, then you have to deny violence against women is gendered. Which you can't because you are a women being assaulted in a way that is tended for your body, men the same. Iirc, women get cho…
/r/MensRights26/03/23 03:02 PM
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bro, you're in a MRM sub basically calling MRMs incel misogynists like a feminist for liking destiny, the least incel human on the planet, trying to save this sub from whatever the your even complaining about, feminism? You sound like a feminist. fucking chill, lmao
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/23 09:50 PM
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Not a partner but my mom when I was around 10-13 has very much so treated me like a servant, with me fetching her make-up, with me having to constantly bring her dinner plates, and constantly be a type of emotional blanket for her, and me being told to go grab groceries for her but never my dad (this was mostly because of my dad). My aunt also does the same stuff, to a much lesser extent, just asking me to grab yarn from a room she was closer to while she was sewing, her calling me to get her sc…
/r/MensRights25/03/23 01:59 PM
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They become exactly like the radical feminists they hate, without even realizing it. Fucking yep, which its fair, but I don't think MRM gets the pass when so far a lot of their debates have been unsuccessful. They need to understand feminism better, fr. But they can't because many fall into the anti-feminist circle jerk before they learn about anything regarding men. There's so much validity to being anti-feminist but they can barely tap into it, because they know pretty much nothing, harming th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/23 10:19 AM
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can feminist theory apply to men's issues? I don't mean to spam askfeminism, but them talking about us is getting uncomfortably common, but fuck it, it's gotten to point of being a trigger to see them constantly conflate the MRM with redpill, blackpill, jordan peterson, tate, and who ever the fuck else they determine is an MRA, and just end up calling anti-feminist MRM of there fucking stupidity, misogynists and 'not the sane types' in contrast to the good guys MensLib WHO ARE LITERALLY FEMINIST…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/23 03:18 AM
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What if Feminism never backs off? Will we be doomed to forever sit in its shadow, waiting hopelessly for the day when we can fully dedicate ourselves to political advocacy? This is the funny thing, (to preface im still learning) MRM has been defamed as 'bad politics, men avoid' by feminist, masculism has been deemed misogynistic, and MLM has been corrupted into male feminism, this makes male feminism the only real avenue for men's issues to get any light in the public sphere. And male feminist j…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/23 01:35 AM
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Its multifaceted obviously, but yeah feminism isnt everything and MRM needs to be on their shit once feminist back off. But... feminist also have their boot on our neck. Feminism is quite literally the institutional (duluth model), academic (feminism itself), cultural (pop-feminism and patriarchy), legal (denial of paper abortion), and social (online harassment) oppression of men, and feminist don't see this. Thus they deny the issues and are effectively in this green lighting phase where they s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/23 11:09 PM
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This is the fairest chance to someone who supports paper abortions. I have zero tolerance for that shit. You are the one supporting people putting a child into a woman and then abandoning them to their fates. That's actual misandry. Okay so imma educate you, as we seem to be to obssessed with variables. Let's delete all variable and look at two het individuals having sex. Under this circumstance, pregnancy is not wanted for either individual (animals have sex for stimulas not reproduction, babie…
/r/MensRights24/03/23 09:22 PM
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examples of what? I don't mind sharing
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/23 04:33 AM
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ill respond to your arguments tomorrow, but I highly reccomend you learn what misandry is. And I genuinely feel for you if you've struggled through the rape. But this doesn't excuse your positioning, your coming off as male exclusionary pro-choice, (ive seen plenty) which is as anti-male as it gets, and to see soneone have that ideology while experiencing what imma assume is a female rape situation, I just find that distressing.
/r/MensRights24/03/23 03:32 AM
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Okay, well. You're an abuse apologist so idk what to tell you.
/r/MensRights23/03/23 10:23 PM
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Nope lol, but im getting my first job soon after 3 years of covid agoraphobia mixed with avoidant personality disorder. (none of this from her, just lots of familial abuse alongside my moms bs behavior)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/23 06:10 PM
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So you just gonna call me a loser after I lazily counter your arguments and then walk away omce I prove I've read your comment. And then you go on to insult other members of the sub on their personally struggles, to put yourself on a high horse thinking you have the 'good' arguments because your defending women. You're also defending rapist and abusers, my friend, whether you like it or not your on the wrong aile. How fucking immature are you?
/r/MensRights23/03/23 04:20 PM
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Here, I'll show you what I read, if you're gonna argue then argue and stop being a child. I litearlly said, "But, I'll engage, since you're insisting." Like are you gonna accuse me of being an illiterate freak next? Did you seriously just conflate bodily autonomy with financial responsibility? (read, responded to) Unless you were raped or some shit. (read, responded to) You had sex with a woman understanding that pregnancy is a risk. If having a kid is too much for you. Don't have sex, you're no…
/r/MensRights23/03/23 12:45 PM
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What? Did you read w hat I said? LOL
/r/MensRights23/03/23 12:13 PM
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Yeah... quoting the rest of you literally makes you sounds like a pro-lifer, so i'll leave that there, and idc about your anecdote at the bottom, there's more fucked up shit in the world. I also don't care for your arguments either, women only pro-choicers are just ragey misandrist my eyes glaze over, you guys never provide a counter and cling onto autonomy of biology and ignore completely autonomy of personhood. But ill engage, since you're insisting. edit; typos, grammar, and cleaning the mess…
/r/MensRights23/03/23 12:01 PM
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Over here acting like a baby is the worst thing you could end up with from sex. isnt this like the same reason why girls who get raped get an abortion if they got pregnant?
/r/MensRights23/03/23 05:03 AM
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The girls are talking about us again "Is it true what MRAs say about no DV shelters for men?" EDIT: Feel free to counter their claims by replying to this comment, not trynna brigade. Even if there are only women allowed in (especially smaller) shelters, the men who get turned away get vouchers and sent to hotels or get refered to another shelter. Men don't need shelters, it is statistically unnecissery, the demand for more male shelters doesn't exist. "Its a demand issue. Statistically, most IPV…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/23 01:05 AM
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Feminists love to live in 1890s. enough said
/r/PussyPass23/03/23 12:28 AM
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feeling good how about you? :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/23 06:50 PM
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Yeah, p embarrasing for her. Radfems gonna radfem.
/r/MensRights21/03/23 07:43 PM
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same
/r/MensRights21/03/23 04:13 PM
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as Ive said a bunch in my real life, women as a class (52% of the american population) should be held accountable for feminism's faults and not holding feminist accountable as they often endorse, literally, or through valuing what they have gained without being feminist. Tho, some women get a soft pass. As for the oxymoron 'mra feminist' im 90% sure they're just egalitarian and confused lol.
/r/MensRights21/03/23 01:58 AM
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the tinmenblog, one of us, is planning a debate/convo (link to post) I don't think Merrick's the worse but as I said, def unedicated about men. I might just have a weird attachement to her, idk shrug
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/23 01:36 AM
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tl;dr he encouraged me to engage with aba's content, and he himself engages with feminist in a more adjacent non-supportive manner, he also debates redpilly mras which keeps me in line and critical of MRM and MLM mras. He helped me find a place where I could finally reject the lefty garbage and become more progressive moderate, which is how I learned to let go of feminism, and without that I wouldn't be an anti-feminist. It's primarily his chat of course, who are pretty anti-feminist in my eyes.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/23 12:57 AM
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read the room bruv
/r/MensRights20/03/23 11:58 PM
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Well, you're religiously minded, i guess, I tried. Probably shouldn't call yourself egalitarian or ask for egalitarians if you just gonna essentialize. Just ask for MRM next time someone asks for content creators who are "good" and "non-bigoted". You're original comment to me would've made sense then.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/23 04:12 PM
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Okay, no. I'm gonna keep pushing you on this. You can't sit here and call them bigots, the only one is Vaush, who in the original post I explicitly stated was a misandrist, I gave that warning, but if you go look through his twitter, you'll see, he's better than nothing, okay? Also, the pedophelia stuff, just. Context is needed damn it.... (it was a whole debate tactic thing, against a nazi or something, anyway) But yes, I don't like him, I made that clear too. Merrick is complicated, she self-I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/23 03:37 PM
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I dont think you read what I said about the creators, but nah, the entirety of that last take is blatantly bad and the rest is simple minded. Balance is key to proper egalitarianism, we have this sub and r/MensRights for a reason, and you gave a bunch of good recs yourself. I only think its fair to provide alternative perspectives on men's issues (that I think are worthy and legitemate) as that is a lacking department. We have to know who we're talking about and to. At the end of the day, debate…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/23 02:19 PM
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Mm, nah, now I disagree, as I pointed out, bi men exist, romantic het dudes aren't gonna be chasing men for romance. A lot of dudes don't realize they're bi, and with the breaking down of heteronorms we'll get more bi men having bi awakenings popping up and a stronger consciousness around bi men (hopefully). Bro-head and bro-job are jokes among 13-21, not adults, and yeah, teens do what they do, but they're also growing up and they're T is dropping as they grow. So when they're adults, it's not …
/r/MensRights20/03/23 01:06 PM
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Yeah, this is exactly what I meant by misandrist in that male feminist way. You compiled the entirety of my thoughts on him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/23 12:08 PM
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They're all pro-male content creators who talk about men, and wouldn't you think it's valuable to hear a feminist perspective. Did you see my comment about vaush below? Clearly I kmow what I'm doing. And yes, they are all really good content creators, don't be disrespectful to their work pls. (also ex-feminist here, these are the only content creators I know of after transitioning) Destiny literally made me an anti-femimst so no, he's not a feminist lol. NotSoErudite also wasn't a feminist when …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/23 12:01 PM
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I think I get what your saying, but your definetly coming off as that weird fetishism with this Besides I believe most men pursue sex from a primary position of pleasure: any romanticism develops as a secondary thing and therefore the emphasis is on following their sex drive, including persuading their intended objective to consent. Like, you're talking about habitual sexuality as in our default sexual mode, and under heteronornative, habitual heterosexuality is more defined or at least common t…
/r/MensRights20/03/23 04:23 AM
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oh good sir... vaush is uhm... (1) (2) (3) (4) tho he's not a complete sinner and has really done a good job at openning up men's issues to lefties and feminist, but as a male feminist himself, he spouts toxic masculinity, as synymous to male socialization. So... making progress, yep! Look, I don't hate him for being sexist, i hate his feminism, he's pretty consistently sexist against women and men, so it doesnt bother me, egalitarian sexism is the ideal future imo. But now he seems to have chil…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/23 02:43 AM
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yeah, pretty suummed me up lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/23 11:36 PM
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Theres a chick named notsoerudite on yt and twitch whose feminist and is really good about men's issues imo, there is also Destiny but he's... controversial. I like him tho. Vaush is fine, maybe? not really? He's pretty misandristic in that male feminist kinda way, and also a male feminist if thats important. Merrick @punishedmother is also pretty cool kinda pro-male rad feminist (an odd combo), also a sex worker if that's relevant. EDIT: Aba and preach are good too, they talk about gender somet…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/23 11:16 PM
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Eh, it's important, can't have someone with an advocate flair running around screaming "help help, I caught the misogyny from MRM subs." Kinda proves the feminist point that MRM are just misogynistic freaks who don't get gfs, and feminist lurk here like creeps too, so... Saves the face of the sub and it was stupid of me to impulse vent here, but happens when I get sad. Any sub for that matter, actually. Should've left it personal and wrote it in notepad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/23 09:25 PM
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Okay, I'll concede on some points: I'm being a bit idealistic, yes, and was a bit neglegent to go and fully learn about all the varieties of the Men's Movement. MRM does = legal rights activism, for sure, and discussion around those topic, not necesserily going all the way into philosphy and the male condition as a whole (this applies to Women's Right too, the parallel I'm catching now). But I still think my point stands on what we should be doing as the Men's Movement to deal with feminist defa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/23 03:32 PM
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yes, thats me, hi! and no, I didnt delete it, mods must've, which I do thank them for because I was only venting and getting it off my chest to slap myself aware and improve. Tvf shouldn't have done it here, dumb move on my part. Pointing out the misogyny I've worked through doesn't dismiss the point I made, that there is no women hating in the thread. Don't turn my personal struggles into a gotcha.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/23 12:50 PM
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There's still that distinction of want and need, its only opportunistic when theres a need for sex, as in the deprevation of het sex in prison. The average population is far from here, obviously dudes who like women have a multitude of outlets via online and reallife sex work, they just lack the sexual intimacy, not necesserily the sex. And the desire of sexual intimacy (romance mixed with sex) is the want, the deprivation of it then becoming a need for some men in our population. That's where w…
/r/MensRights19/03/23 12:41 PM
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Where was the women hating? If you pay attention closely to what was said. Women gets tainted by a improper man, male sexuality is demonized is it not? Extending what was pointed out, the women has the agency to choose to fuck the dude and taint herself, therefore she is liable to be shamed, like how a man who willing drinks and drives should be. Obviously her choices shouldn't be shamed, but can you really shame the guy? Logically no, you'll sound kinda stupid. Like shaming a guy for watching m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/23 06:09 AM
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oh, sry, I really don't know the answer to that question. You got much better responses above so I don't need to give my uneducated opinion, I have very little experience with mental health services, which I do need therapy bad lol, and mensrights / menslib dont talk about this often enough, so no real avenues for educating myself passively about personal experiences. What I can say, is that, there seems to be a lot of use of 'positive' masculinity in present practice, and I made my opinion pret…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/23 05:33 AM
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i feel a need to thank you for saying this, started gaslighting myself over it.
/r/MensRights19/03/23 03:23 AM
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Let me get my intentions out of the way first. I simply want to categorize MRAs for the sake of two reason, 1) I feel we lack strong legetimacy in the culture mostly from feminism tainting our image and lack of unity amongst ourselves, which brings us to, 2) I feel that feminist legitemately have no understanding of who is who, among MRAs and the types of MRAs there are. Conflating us with RedPill. This is where I'm coming from with my feeling that we do need to categorize our ideologies because…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/23 01:39 AM
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I edited my original post btw, but I'll do some elaborating here on my stance. It's not about mental illness knee capping your mental. It's more about the 'do I feel targeted or not' 'will they understand me or no'. I will confess, I actually don't know what men's aesthetic preferences are, and honestly I think most men don't actually care in regards to that, it's more about the messaging which i think gets to men, as it is often pandering and trying to neg men I feel, like "Do it pussy, go to t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/23 10:29 PM
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no? I like pastels. but it does come off as targeting kids. That's undeniable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/23 09:59 PM
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Cute as fuck but not targeting men, comes off as targeting kids. Still cute as fuck tho. Edit: as for the advice, none of it is bad to tell men. It's useful, just the aesthetic is not for men on average, though i dont think this aesthetic necesserily fully deters men away from therapy. Could it be cutsy and masculinized like a boys room aesthetic, for sure, and I think that could pull dudes in if they want to stick with pastels (which I like pastels). All this though needs to be paired with the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/23 09:41 PM
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typoed sorry! check if it works now, if anything it's on the side bar of related subs iirc, on mobile atm.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 09:34 PM
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they just talk about issues and most of the time it's dating issies that's it While I agree with you, i feel you're ignoring the nuance of redpill and redpill MRAs, where for example in the menrights sub there are plenty of guys id consider redpill in there, and they're still MRAs. But guys like fresh n fit I'd never classify as MRA, Sneako for example is not an MRA, Reeves is not an MRA either, he's more a menslib type (pro-feminist). I think it's important we do better at categorizing ourselve…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/23 09:30 PM
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Would you consider it an MRA prerogative to help enforce the reduction of echo chambers, as in getting ppl of the online societies involved in breaking down walls and encouraging both sides to discuss one another in good faith? In a way to play the arbiter role, as I feel we're naturally a centrist egalitarian movement and kind of have always been in this position even Ernest Belfort Bax (the first loud critique of feminism) was a more centrist progressive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/23 08:43 PM
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>Also, no we aren't facists. I was talking about you labeling MRM as fascist. I quote: "You're probably an alt right incel trying to spread hate towards LGBT people" What does this sound like, clearly my response wasn't calling you a fascist. Jesus. And I was talking about how the queer community believe that majority of the population is bi, which leads to a very fucked up way of looking at straight dudes, that fetishizes them and leads to terrible encounters with gay/bi men which then produces…
/r/MensRights18/03/23 07:24 PM
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I've had this thought too. I conceived of this situation as basically being that men are still in their survival age, while women are in their fullfilment age (using terms from the myth of male power). And these 'survalist' men, or I guess regressive MRAs, want to bring women back to their survival age to produce equality, which technically thats equality, it is "fair" but let's not. The feminist then want to keep men out of their fulfilment age (keeping us in our inequality) due to the regressi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/23 06:27 PM
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Bi here too, can confirm women get wraunchy, from my experience guys are more coy and women more blunt. Glad to see us bi men can share in this exprience lmao.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/23 06:06 PM
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Meh, you came off as a 'lets hold hands' feminist like OP. Triggered me.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 05:10 PM
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If you'd like, ma'am, I can show you to the door?
/r/MensRights18/03/23 05:04 PM
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My guy? You just said most ppl are bi, in a comment talking about men. It's so hard to tell who's a troll and who's not because all you fucks make fresh accounts, but I'll engage in good faith. Do I need to talk about me being outed in middle school? Yeah I ackonowledged there are a good chunk of bi guys who are repressed by homophbia, this is obvious to even the most 'incelish' of MRAs. But you guys and your community are fucking weird and predatory about het dudes. Stop this, acknowledge it wh…
/r/MensRights18/03/23 04:33 PM
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I'm not gonna argue, but say that you're proving the points I was making
/r/MensRights18/03/23 03:03 PM
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I have a weird duty to do advertising for this sub (r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates) whenever I see someone tentative to embrace the MRA title, or at least tentative to fully involve themselves in male advocacy. Women can be MRAs for sure, lefties, ex-feminist too, and all of them help out a ton with the validity of MRAs. No need to make your gender a disclaimer or a reason to not be more active.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 03:00 PM
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As a bi guy, I can say, the queer community is annoying. To be a little more productive, there is this weird fetishism and repulsion of men's heterosexuality. I don't have the words yet to lay it out in full, but its there and weirdly uncomfortable to acknowledge when you go from the feminist side of the aile to the MRA side, and hear stories of straight dudes perfectly not homophobic become homophobic due to creepy and repulsive gay/bi men. There really is this quiet culture, maybe not so big, …
/r/MensRights18/03/23 02:50 PM
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how about you don't engage in gender discourse since you're too busy shitting and pissing over a bill that would never pass
/r/MensRights18/03/23 01:43 PM
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Oh no no no, I've seen this a thousand times "I'm not even a feminist bro!" You are spitting feminist talking points. You are a feminist. Stop trying to run away by calling yourself a 'non-feminist' or a 'true feminist' You're a feminist and you're complicet in a system that actively is killing men by not support men's issues and by being actively antagonistic to men's issues. I'm gonna make you my bitch for a minute, cause you're fucking embarassing. You know what you're saying here btw? By tal…
/r/MensRights18/03/23 01:42 PM
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Tell that to feminist, instead of pandering to us.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 12:23 PM
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The girls getting death penalty? Sounds like equality to me. Remember when I called you guys beligerent? You can take care of homeless men and homeless women equally, just as you can care for male abuse victims and female victims equally. Yet it seems you guys don't care that funding is simply denied or strip down for men. Nor do you care that feminism actively produces more male punish in men's abuse through cops receiving duluth model training. The duluth model is a feminist invention, and has…
/r/MensRights18/03/23 12:03 PM
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Like I said, what you're looking for is a sub like r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates this sub isn't gonna change, and that sub sounds more align to your wants, which is a 'peaceful' more intellectually driven and academic focused anti-feminim sub, very pro-women, high moderation and all that stuff. Peaceful protest isnt an option when feminism has not just been beligerent towards us, but negligent and suppressive of men's issues for a while. They are not our friends so no, we ain't treating them with merc…
/r/MensRights18/03/23 04:21 AM
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This is exactly what I'm saying, why not help us get off the ground properly, intead of doing what you (OP, not u) are complaining about which is instigating a poo throwing fight. I've seen this three times now, that MRAs are not 'true' MRA, who tf are even the true MRAs? Majority of the movement is barely in academia, and were throwing around true MRAs...
/r/MensRights18/03/23 03:55 AM
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I'd recommend not doing the equivalent of feminist calling us basement lurking incels and hold respect for those who are our boots on ground activists. If you don't like this sub's content style, I'd reccomend r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates as they emphasize and prioritize a culture of high effort and quality. If not that, stfu and don't insert your opinion like they're relevant to us.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 03:44 AM
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Do you mind listing the things you have done to impact your local area?
/r/MensRights18/03/23 02:43 AM
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jeez, you happen to have that article still? I catalogue the things I see online to hold feminist accountable to this shit. And my mom was a much less severe misandrist, non-feminist. She'd treat me like a spectacle wanting to check my body hair growth when I was in middle school and saying i have anger issues when id argue with her. Frequently treating me like a lacky, making me her servant. I was pretty much not a person to her, in contrast to my big sister. Thankfully I grew up distasteful of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/23 09:28 PM
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I acknowledge this too, that alongside the guys who have immortality complexes there are those who grew up in safe neighborhoods, both of them often being ignorant of other men's environments. Which, Ill be frank, contributes to the feminist fear monger narrative that women are in more danger. But I guess it would be sketchy to say that if you lived in a safe neighborhood as a women the odds of you being assault are negligable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/23 08:40 PM
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Just advocate for gender equality without demonization, its not that hard bro, thats self-deletion to them. They'd need to by dragged on the floor to get to this point. As you said, the left literally agrees with 80% of what MRAs talk about, its just the man part that they are repulsed by. (ive seen them talk about death gap the way we talk about wage gap ["its mens choices, i dont get why they bring this up?"], and then the next thing you hear is "we need to support amazon unions") this is what…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/23 06:53 PM
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this is stupidly common, but also there are some instances of men being derided by feminist moms, that I've seen around MRA circles a couple times.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/23 06:40 PM
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yep. how fucking demoralizing is it to think we are literally not humans to them, whether they realize it or not. And the only solution is to get feminist to re-humanize us. Which, I agree with you, but I don't think thats enough, because look at toxic masculinity and hegemonic masculinity and how those turned out. They 'care' about us, but only to the extent that boys can't express themselves and the concern that this produces abusers, its a narcassitic love. And they still fail to acknowledge …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/23 06:38 PM
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Nope, they just make being male sound cool and thats about it, effectively giving vulnerable men dog treats so they can vote red. Neither side cares for us, beyond getting us to be a means to their end.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/23 06:13 PM
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This is exactly what I never got. But then you have dudes who think they're immortal making the rest of us who are legitmately concerned look like pussies. And then we sit here and look at the statistics and wonder, "Why do men have such as high victimization rate by strangers?" while these dudes are saying, "At no point in my life have I ever been terrified at night, so I can't imagine what it's like to be a women." Like... lmao also >Like you, any time I point this out its either laughed at or…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/23 01:21 PM
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Thinking about the whole 'women choose to not make a mess, men chose to' bs. I can conceive of this as being true due to the way women are socialized to be, at the extreme, hyper self-critical about the way they look and present themselves. I could go for a low hanging fruit with this and say women who attempt are actually stuck up and nit-picky. But I won't. For obvious reasons they don't seem to grasp.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/23 11:41 PM
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When I was in a similar boat as you, I started writing and world building and developing my own philosophy through a con-religion to develop a perception of myself. But what really is helping me at the present, is researching emotions through bridging the gap between the philisophical interpretations and psychological interpretation of shame, guilt, fear, and pride. And its really enlightening stuff, especially to my behaviors as a child abuse experiencer myself. I've also done some personal wor…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/23 11:20 PM
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I've also seen feminists say men die more because they use more violent methods because they're egotistical people who don't care about the mess they leave for others to clean. I wish I was making that up. my radicalizing moment (you can't make this shit up)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/23 11:05 PM
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honestly, ive hit the boomer point where I don't ask questions and just go with it
/r/MensRights15/03/23 01:43 AM
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ah, woops. I interpreted it wrong. Yw tho.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/23 12:21 PM
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Don't call yourself a wimp for pushing through this dogshit, your better than the average populous at dealing with your emotions, and if anything I cherish ppl who are capable of that. r/SupportForTheAccused may be helpful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/23 11:49 AM
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Don't you care call me fucking lost, you're not explaining anything too me. I told you I care about women, but you're doing damselism, I dont care for a damsel. Tell me why I should care to keep trans women out of women's spaces. Trans ppl are 1.6% of our population, trans women probably half that. I dont know how this is a problem? Are we experiencing an epidemic? Where are the news headlines? I'm not calling you transphobic, but clearly this sounds like a threat narrative you're co-opting into…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/23 12:20 AM
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exactly, the sky is orange.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/23 10:12 PM
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Women now have a right to not see a penis in the lockerroom? Wouldn't that give me, a bi guy, the right to also not have to see a penis in the lockerroom? The right to a safe space, yeah? First off, why is this hypothetical woman even looking at another persons penis? And yes, she can suffer just as white people suffer when segragation ended, because her suffering, just like white people's, is that of a knife cut, an eye sore. Keep flipping the gender in what you are saying and you'll realize th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/23 10:11 PM
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The sky is also orange....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/23 09:17 PM
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You're missing the point of what I'm saying. TL;DR: Gender (gender roles and gender socialization) are both products of our biology. Simply how we look, more so how we act, determines how we are interacted with and exploited by society. Our biology hold drastically different aesthetic between us and give us slightly different behaviors. You know a man when your see one often enough. (check the wiki on socialization, and scroll down to gender socialization) Saying it is biological is the most val…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/23 09:11 PM
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You're not paying attention to what I said in that thread, im not a transphobia spouter just very cautious of what I deem redflags (as I said in my previous post to MaintenanceOwen773 I'm bi, I'm very sensistive to this topic because clearly most transphobes can't dicern the difference between a trans women and a gay guy) The article he linked was only linked to counter the delusionality of peope who say transwomen don't rape. I've never denied transwomen can rape, obviously women rape men, no? …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/23 06:35 PM
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oh yeah, I wasnt denying the validity of mgtow's existence just had an ADHD brain blast before bed. But even then, both ends are just childish to me, as a hater of both. Though ive always had more empathy for the boys since day one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/23 12:16 PM
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cant take an L, I see. LMAO
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/23 11:57 AM
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required reading "Toxic masculinity refers to a specific type of masculinity not masculinity." Masculinity and toxic masculinity are different things. Contradiction (1): toxic masculinity "is masculinity pushed to the extreme." Contradiction (3): "maculinity isn't toxic" (a brighter shade of orange is still orange) You dont seem to understand language. When you say masculine (or feminine) you are using a word who's content can only describe, when you compare the noun masculinity to the noun rela…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/23 11:54 AM
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Well, reddit hated my essay so I guess I can't post my response lmao. But to take a quote from my beautiful writing. "So briefly, you are in fact being traditionalist, yet in denial of it, but that's chill, I'll guide you through the de-brain washing. Saying that women can't work, that they are simply not built to work, is a bit sexist, actually was used against them when women started getting into the work field. I've proven you're traditionalism to you a dozen time, like, I don't know why you'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/23 12:28 AM
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This is what I mean by toxic masculinity trap Nah, you very clearly are expressing masculine-feminine fluidity spirit science, (men can act feminine, women can act masculine too) My argumentation does not use gender to prove gender as a made up concept. I said girls wear pink, boys wear blue. These are the ways society interacts with us. On the basis of our sex (grils wear pink, boys wear blue) but we "wear" not are "born" pink and blue. Gender in your gender fluid reality, is simply made up gar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/23 08:47 PM
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>Toxic masculinity is just masculinity pushed to a harmful extreme. >Men and women can exhibit toxic masculinity. >Masculinity isn’t toxic but when these shaming behaviors take place it’s considered toxic masculinity Catch your contradictions bro, your tripping on yourself. Next thing you know you're gonna start rationalizing gender fluidity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/23 06:24 PM
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Nah, you falling for the toxic masculinity trap. Gender is just made up garbage that is irrelevent to our day-to-day, our sex determines how we are interacted with not gender. Markers of our sex signify what sex we have, (boys wear blue, girls wear pink) this means there are masculine women in the world; those who fall into more masculine attitudes and aesthetic, girls who wear blue (butches) and are treated as if they are wearing blue, and this applies to boys who wear pink (femboys). These are…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/23 05:56 PM
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The thing is is that these guys are basically strawmen dumb fucks, useful idiots. if you really wanna kill god you gotta read the bible first, same with feminism. Understanding the why, is crucial towards shutting them down hard. Without that understanding your gonna be just as much an NPC, a useful idiot for us as those guys are for them, once a die hard feminist whipes out a history book, or more complex talking points. As in, like the beginnning of patriarchy and whether or not misigyny made …
/r/MensRights12/03/23 11:39 AM
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you should also check out r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates that place is a stats and statistics dump you can learn a lot from. Lots of good essays you can find there, and very constructive responses and post are highly rewarded so very frequent. that place basically has been my foundational education
/r/MensRights12/03/23 11:20 AM
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L OP
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:24 AM
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all men who inspire me can tap this ass, fr
/r/MensRights11/03/23 02:42 PM
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Okay, so I'm correct, quotes below to prove my point. You seem to think it just refers to inceldom, I'm using outside of that context. As i've said in my other posts, it is the dismal and bitter truth, seperate from the bluepill and simply looking directly at reality for what it is. The redpill demystifies the delusion aka. the bluepill. Here are some quotes from the first three reddit posts google gave me. >the red pill is like rejecting the current dating rules of western society and following…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/23 12:46 PM
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if they label themselves yes, if not no. You'd be turning the term feminist into a term like toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 12:21 PM
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no I dont think so boss.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/23 12:14 PM
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not really no? Redpill is when you learn a truth about how dating and relationships function, that original meaning contrasted with the bluepill, which refered to societal messaging about how dating and relationships worked (heteronormative of course...), the redpill offering the truth to demystify women. (this is not a personal discovery unlike the blackpill, the blackpill being a dismal and bitter truth from my understanding) These days redpilled seems to be used as 'to mark a persons start in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/23 12:14 PM
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when you've learned the truth about something that others don't want to acknowledge or that you rejected for X reasoning in fear of acceptance of that truth. Thats the definition i learned.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/23 11:38 AM
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TL;DR: all forms of labeling masculinity is misandristic and embarrasing. Feminist will never be good at dealing with men's issues becasue of their well known victim complex. I have been blackpilled on feminism recently, it's a dead movement being kept alive by iv bags. I hate all terms used to label or describe masculinities. Toxic masculinity in it's own right should be publically executed at this point, cause it's not masculinity, its the roles placed upon us by others regardless of their gen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/23 10:19 PM
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bro your satire
/r/MensRights10/03/23 03:31 PM
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patriarchy is tempting me to be sexist rn
/r/MensRights10/03/23 11:55 AM
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is it psychotic and abusive to tell someone they're online too much?
/r/MensRights10/03/23 11:42 AM
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nah this looks like a troll post or virtue signal. Way to vague and generic.
/r/MensRights09/03/23 11:34 PM
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Okay, no. We don't have both traits, saying this is called making shit up. I can as easily call you a bitch for acting upon the masculine aspects of life (weaponized incompitence) for you comparing yourself washing dishes every night with a slave women being treated like a breeding dog, and yeah I also don't think every girl in this thread is a dumb bitch but my ex, my mom, my half sister, and my aunt sure are. Gender is not some made up toy ppl deliberatly used to make you suffer, therefore you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:59 AM
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see where you lose me is here >the biggest reckoning that men can have is realizing how much they do a disservice to themselves by not embracing the feminine aspects of life why label this behavior as feminine, Just call it what it is, things that the masculine and feminine do, as in a behavior some people do and some people dont. Also misandrist of you to assume men are just lazy and incompetent therefore choose not to partake in 'feminine aspects' of life. Think more about socialization and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:12 AM
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Pretty much from the men's perspective, I even think dudes who aren't redpill types or even pro-feminist fall down this route too. It's kind of interesting to see it doesn't really exist as a concept beyond women, contrast to masculinity. Maybe its a mommy issues thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:43 AM
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Yep, this proves me point. "men keep dying", therefore no one cares until it's 'severe'. "Until boys start dying", (which I'm not sure about the entirety of male suicide yet to busy learning other things.) and if they (the left) do start talking about suicide in boys and men they say toxic masculinity which reduces it to a 'fix it yourself' mentality, and then go on about education and how our boys are in need of equality, which is a problem, but like... Once again, for the right its easier beca…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/23 03:40 PM
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I just realized political lesbianism and MGTOW are the same concept LOL
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/23 03:44 AM
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The left and the right both propagate men as these super-human deities. On the left through demonization and on the right through cultural agrandizing. This leaves men's issues and humanity under the rug on both sides, only relevant to discourse when we need to toss them a bone. All this until boys start dying, that's when ppl snap out of their delusional mythologizing. The left is having a harder time adopting men's issues because of the pathway they choose to deify men, in contrast to the righ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/23 03:22 AM
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Yep, toxic masculinity is just gender roles, the roles being a product of our biology. The myth of male power talks about men as success objects and women as sex objects. I dont like these terms too much, the more accurate labels to our objectification is men as sexual-success objects and women as beauty objects. But the funny things is that toxic masculinity is just a reductive way of interpeting MRA topics such as male disposability, empathy gap, male invisibility, and socio-economics as all t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/23 09:58 PM
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Me personally, I don't know about intersectionality being applied to men's issues due to its relation with feminism and the concept of male privlege. I think it can be great if it is reworked maybe? So men's issues can more easily slot in as needing attention and as a form of oppression individual to men's condition in society and not an oppresion who is a by product of women's condition in society. But untill then I dunno, I think we should acknolwedge common sense stuff like how wealth, race, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/23 03:09 PM
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I feel its obvious, right? We all dress to impress but based on our gender we try to impress different markets, and this clearly has nothing to do with sexuality. Just ppl are attracted to who they think will be fun to talk to. Thus dressing up, getting fit w.e, pulls ppl in for convos for sexual or friendly reasons. How humans function we like shiny shit Yet when a guy does this for other men hes gay, but then for girls he's some type of simp or he's trying too hard. And when woman do it for me…
/r/MensRights06/03/23 01:29 PM
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How disposable do you guys think women are in contrast to men? I've been just roaming the webs doing some note taking on toxic masculinity and how feminist reduce all of men's issues into a mental health issue or a cultural issue that are both derived from a misogynistic culture present to day or at least present in our pass. Obviously this is just stupid, but I've thought of our biology and how men are just more disposable in multiple way in regards to our objectification, as in we're better wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/23 07:23 PM
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Yeah I see that now, I just get really tensed up in trans discourse, you hear enough stories and it gets to you, im also bi and live in florida, so people see trans girls in the same way they see me unless I suppress my gay half, if they get targeted I'm basically next or lumped in. I do somewhat acknowledge that there is a lot of denialism from the far-left types, which I try to avoid myself. (in general i try to avoid the discourse because im very uneducated, but I still feel a strong need to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/23 04:14 AM
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okay, im trying not to be piece of shit, im serious. Are you autistic? I don't want to go down the 'men are annoying' route, but I don't want to go down the route of 'he's just in highschool still' either, like give me some leeway, pls... Once more, if it wasn't clear from my original comment to you, this is the most unimportant topic on the entire planet. The usage of a question mark on a reddit comment. My dick has more interesting things on it called veins. What the hell is up with everyone e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 08:15 PM
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so are we to be writing in precise grammar then? its reddit, not english lit, we use twitter? we use insta? we text one another? In this these instance, must it be necessery I type like so? Get past this desperate clinging to rationality jesus, reddit perscriptiavist are a new breed lmfao. And nah, I'm sure any person fluent in english can read what I typed and comprehend it as easily. Sorry to the L2s but they arent on my mind every day
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 03:27 PM
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Yeah, see no one says a son cant murder his father, this is why I feel your coming to an extreme position from a strawman. Which is chill by me, if your constantly told irrational shit like 'ex-group literally cannot do x thing' its the same resson plenty of guys like you and me are here with ppl saying 'women cant be abusers' that's human, so I'm not calling you a transphobe But I think you really should look at the messaging when you're promoting an article as proof to prove not at all trans p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/23 12:06 PM
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how does someone end up oppressed by question marks? its a question mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:15 AM
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im pretty convinced dating and being friends is not the same? Just as a brother and a male friend are two different experiences. Obviously in the case of dating your fucking the guy, which that alone adds a whole new dynamic outside of the bed. Then there are expectations invovled when dating someone, and arguments are simply more painful and stressful than an argument with a friend. If were gonna be literally talking about men dating men you have societal perception which warps the whole dynami…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 04:41 AM
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i believe after skimming both these articles that this article is a debunk of your article is this sub quietly transphobic? As for looking at this from an mra pov, this is pretty misandristic to call sex offending a 'male-type' crime, we should really be looking at serious issues that face men like rape in male prisons, I think the feminist have long been handling sexual offences in female prisons, no need for us to add in.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/23 04:18 AM
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yeah i know the left is doing stuff, ive seen action being done and lefty compassion, I was being harsh and beligerent because I grew up seeing homeless men and the way people talk about guys like me who struggled with education. It's the callousness and the uncompassionate shock of the thread, shit hit me deep.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/23 01:01 AM
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much love bro <3
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/23 05:01 PM
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this shit isnt new, its been happening for a long while now, homeless men being raped and murdered and coerced into sexual acts with men and women, no matter their sexuality, no matter their age, no matter their race. And no one bats a fucking eye, and the moment they do, its just used for political gain and all it ends up as is a political tug of war A man just fucking died. No policies out of these demonic fucks to end this shit, and the lefts to busy bickering and barking at them to actually …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/23 04:20 PM
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I can't with this just witnessed a homeless man get shot, big mad rn. then this conservatives have the audacity to make this about race
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/23 04:14 PM
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So that's why bs movements like liberal feminism and "intersectional" feminism are so hegemonic in our media and even in political spaces. What type of feminist are you? I see you have feminist guest as a tag, I'd be shocked a radfem stumbled her ass in here sober.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/23 08:12 PM
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Would you weight a women's bodily autonomy over a man's bodily autonomy, such as in the case of a man who refuses to be a father because he's not ready to be? Then what of a man who is a victim of rape by his girlfriend/wife/date? If yes, you would give men access to being able to force women to have abortions and deny abortions If no, then you are denying men bodily autonomy in regards to reproductive rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/23 07:45 PM
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Misogynistic sentiments? What of misandristic statements like men are mindless, incompetent, and lack a capacity for love, so a woman should cook and clean for the family, take care of the children, and love and take care of her family members. A man needing to do dangerous work = patriarchal privelege because women exist? I'm certain you can take more than half these on your list as misandristic in origin, as more than enough of these 'misogynistic sentiments' don't require a women to be presen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/23 07:12 PM
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yep, saw that post too...Male feminist in particular, I prefer to call them pinkpill as not all think of themselves as feminist but are pro feminist as the sub says itself. From my perspective, pinkpill guys are treated with this simple phrase 'we don't want you, but your useful' (male disposability in action?) but because of their guilt, they stay and fall into a need to prove themselves as a 'good male' to feel not demonized, as in not a part of one of those 'rapey misogynist' men types or sai…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/23 12:07 AM
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Hope you guys are having a happy day and have happiness all around you, if not take this love from the online world. <3 Here's a article posted on MR awhile ago on men and therapy, apparently therapy actually is kind poorly made for men, given the history of it being made for women primarily wlnot surprising but never though biology could actually play a part in men's stereotypical help seeking behavior. I always held the belief that it was learned behavior from society's neglect of men. Here's …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 08:00 PM
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To quote from askfeminists "Why do you not like yourself for being a man?"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 04:16 PM
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Charivari might be what you are refering to, female abusers would also be punished too, but i believe male victims primarily were tormented and injured. Havent learned much about still working through The Battered Husband Syndrome.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/23 11:19 PM
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legit, everything to do with the left and men simply comes down the miss use of intersectionality aka. idpol. Which is the only reason why I cant stand menslib despite menslib being genuinely great when I first started exploring it, felt like they're were so many smart guys there and I still feel there are, but fuck the idpol men, saying shit like 'men with internalized misandry are actually expressing male guilt and that they need to work pass their depression and anxiety and not be a drain on …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/23 01:09 PM
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mens rights is not about rights its about issues pertaining to men and issues that disproportionately effect men. Which dating and suicide and paternity fraud and custody and feminism and sexual assault and so and so on and so on are a part of
/r/MensRights23/02/23 10:00 PM
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Been in the same boat went through a non-binary gender fluid gender confused phase, and as a bi guy lost connection to my heterosexual half to the point I can't look at women in porn, getting better about that. I feel a lot of us GenZ have been in similar positions, and I fear for gen alpha, but now I'm happy i defined masculinity for myself, and have not felt better and more motivated. If you read or learn through osmosis some gender philosphy (written by feminist) and critique it a bit to unde…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 03:59 PM
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Its so bizarre to see it all on one page like this, legit felt like I was fouling myself seeing this shit in small amounts, but now I'm just realizing that some of us are basically getting collectively gaslit. Minimization runs deep in men in gender politics, it's truly disheartening. But, one thing I've notice from the comparison of blackness and whiteness, with maleness and femaleness, is how gendered american racial stereotyping is asian being the feminine: asian men = more effeminate, asian …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/23 12:15 AM
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What ever happened to the good ol' days of bomb threats
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/23 01:20 PM
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feel free to tell me im wrong or dumb, but its not even men, its just individuals with wealth which translates to them being able to make decisions, literally has nothing to do with men, but because these individuals have T and male socialization their decisions are colored in maleness. Feminist have said to me that a matriarchy would be just as bad, which they then have to agree that women's suffering is not because of gender but because of lack of access to societal influence, which is disadva…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/23 02:11 PM
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From my perspective, its not that im treated badly just no one regards me or anything, and when they do they're snickering about me behind my back because I stutter from my social phobia. I just exist with no friends, im fine with that. Like with men's issues, it's more like we got a bunch of little plates, and every guys got a set of the small plates they eat from together, with women its like a couple large plates that every one of them eats from. One's guys suffering is not another's if you g…
/r/MensRights16/02/23 11:32 PM
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The gut kicker for me is this is clearly indicative of empathy gap / men's weak in-group formation, whatever its called, and even sadder is this is as clear as it gets with male on male violence being glorified at worst and normalized at best in the heads of even children. Empathy of men needs to be seriously discussed, if we are to aim for a legimate fix for this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/23 03:08 AM
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idk maybe im still in a radical anti-feminism mindset, but I feel so much of feminism in regards to men's issues are selfishly motivated, in-group bias supported, ways of going about men's issues. That meaning they (pop feminist) only engage with men when women can benefit. Add on to this their cherry picking, where women are agents of their success but victims of their demise. In contrast to men where men are agents of their success and their demise. Male feminist only make this worse for men w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/23 07:08 PM
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infantalizings the big one for me, i call it them going mommy mode at the wrong time, seems like a tactic to cope with discormfort, which is more painful when your in the trenches of suicidality. Wouldnt be surprised if others got more malicious and violent reactions
/r/MensRights07/02/23 08:56 AM
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Its a pandora's box moment for america with sexual liberation I feel, im gonna shit post, but sometines I feel the only real solution is reducing women to household objects and men to income slaves, but realistically we're just forever doomed to have incels and volcels in our society as a legitamate demographic of concern.
/r/MensRights03/02/23 03:52 AM
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(Rant post) My issue with conservatve is that point good things, like how we are devalueing masculinity and contributing to male suicide. The flaw of them, is they then go full tard mode, and make these stupidly long videos with no examples or proper demonstrations of what they're talking about so no one can actualy question what they're even saying, you just suppose to know. The thing is that their emotional appeals are to stupid arguments, or to no argumnt at all, they beg for you to see them …
/r/MensRights28/01/23 09:47 PM
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I wanna play devils advocate You say that you prefer women who are high value, and that a girl with OF or who has slept with multiple low value men is a women who has derided her value. What is this value exactly, and how impactful would it be in a relationship? And what is the value of men who want women with low body counts? And the follow up question to that would be, how impactful would this value be in a close friendship with them?
/r/MensRights23/01/23 07:50 PM
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It's so important tobhave this discussion on male sexual victimization. Primarily for CSA reasons, boys who've experienced CSA have a 4-11 times higher chance of suicide (the highest of any male demographic I believe) in contrast to girls who've experienced CSA who are at 2-3 higher chance verse the population of non-CSA experiencers. It's super important. I despise the framing of all this around remolding masculinity, we have to affirm men's gender post-emasculation, not make them redefine masc…
/r/MensRights23/01/23 03:22 AM
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i love that we talk about death gap, but its also one of those things a kin to wage gap, but the contrast to wage gap is that death gap contributes to men's shorter life expectancy. The sad thing is is that I havent seen any productive conversation behind unionization and anti-capitalism in men's rights advocacy which is one of the solutions to the death gap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/23 06:52 PM
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Youre serious? You insult my belief and I insult your behavior against my belief and im defensive? Im critiquing you, what even is conversation anymore?
/r/MensRights16/01/23 05:26 PM
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You are assuming my positions when I've made my perspective clear as day, Feminism to MRAs is Patriarchy to feminist, what this means is not that patriarchy is a meaningless topic, but that patriarchy cannot be used to explain every single bad behavior a man does, including men at the top. Maybe considered women's behavior as not inherently benevolent, cause this is what you're saying by saying 'men at the top do bad things' therefore patriarchal societal standards. Forgive my misogyny, but this…
/r/MensRights16/01/23 04:51 PM
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Tbf fair, feminist have been poisoning the well on MRAs for a long while, so I don't suspect even when MRAs are in good public light that majority feminist won't back off of MRAs. Feminism to MRAs is Patriarchy to feminists, they're both there but not as effectual and all consuning as the two would like to believe, in the case of feminism, it furthers the neglect of mens issues, such as: (1) potraying men as oppressor which undoubtly has made ppl more cautious and less forgiving to men, thus mak…
/r/MensRights16/01/23 12:27 PM
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A lot of ppl conflate MRA with neo-conservative men like tate, who only bitch and moan just like incels. Incels and tate enjoyers do exist in MRA circles just as TERFs and racist feminist exist in feminist circles
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/23 10:03 AM
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humanizing men is the solution, we are just seen as a means to whatever end is being complained about and reduced to our perceived danger, unless we got something worth being acknowledged over.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/23 11:17 PM
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So for single dad and divorced dad I make a distinction between the two and I didnt make it clear there, and yes, I agree its definetly equal and I didn't intend to type receive more stigma than single moms. When it comes to single parenthood everyone gets shit on, dads receiving biogtry of low expectations and moms receiving plain bigotry. And a whole slew of other things based on their gender. Divorced men/dads I use synomously which I really shouldn't, and they have gotten it worse where I li…
/r/MensRights14/01/23 02:35 AM
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My issue with this is that I dont disagree with the numbers, but I do disagree with the framing which seems to boil down to women have a problem, men are the problem which completely neglects men's half of the story. This framing around the topic of why do divorces happen, fails to consider: how many hours the husband is working, how much the husband is earning, and the workplace stress the husband is experiencing. Ive heard ancedotally from divorced dads of having to alway be "on-duty" which co…
/r/MensRights14/01/23 12:05 AM
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Set 6am here, so cant watch the whole thing, but im compelled to type. If this is somthing along the along the lines of 'alpha personality traits' then no, we dont do pill content (redpill, purplepill, blackpill, etc.) whixh is my general understanding after a couple months here. But I did skim just to hear the intro for the guy and I liked it for what it is 'masculinity is not morality,' gave me the impression it was a gender anylsis video on men in film which is a conversation MRAs I think are…
/r/MensRights12/01/23 01:00 PM
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His take on male teachers serving no value to male students was pretty dog shit, as a guy I feel he should know what its like to have a masculine male teacher, even I had my male teachers but still appreciated them for what they had which was that masculinity. He mentions that shared values are more important than genitalia and skin color, but I must ask him what does the question 'how do I be a man' coming from a fourteen year old boy refer to? Everything else was p squeaky tho, vaush isnt the …
/r/MensRights11/01/23 12:50 AM
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I've said this a couple months ago when I was on my ex-feminist arc, "male feminist see the world from the perspective of women, without the benefits of being seen as one" seems to still hold up. Thank god I'm not those dudes anynore cause I would have the same npc responses. Literally just brainwashed men engaging in 'women need to be protected' logic which unironically is patriarchal, yet they keep saying we men need to stop engaging in patriarchy lmfao
/r/MensRights09/01/23 01:10 AM
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Don't become a feminist, its not for men its just a soothing tale for girls dealing with the world. Don't be an asshole to what helps them cope, but ignore them the moment they start talking about us. we got a lot of places to discuss men's issues and we're only getting more, mens issues are finally getting picked up now, still gonna be slow tho I fear. Don't fall into the feminist trap that "MR.A's are all misygonistic and have little dick energy" Just learn to seperate far-right dipshits from …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/23 12:18 PM
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I'm not a lefty, I'm moderate... just asking for guidance my guy, p useless statement to say 'if its useful to you' when being asked 'is this useful' when the well has been poisoned for me and I'm not sure of public census on him here. I'm trying to learn that so I dont fuck up on discussing our issues. but thanks for the last links.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 07:29 PM
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What this dude said
/r/MensRights07/01/23 03:12 PM
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This post saddens me, because its p delusional. Spend more time here and just sus out far-right from moderate from incel and you'll be good to go, not everyone thinks the same politically here yet we're united under mens issues. Can't say the same for feminist
/r/MensRights07/01/23 03:57 AM
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So i feel pretty confident about talking about men and their relationship with violence after doing a good amount of research on the connection between shame and violence, feel free to correct me and call me dumb, just be constructive. Simply: humiliation/embarrsament > emotional disregulation > aggression > self-defeating behavior > violence This is basically the formula for a mass shooting, murder, rape, etc (the most extreme form of aggressive self-defeating violence). Now the thing is that t…
/r/MensRights06/01/23 12:43 PM
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This is the one time I might blame feminism 'constructively', i get the vibe that feminism coddles women and keeps them immature via "empowerment" a lot of the saying of men are whatever can be picked up by a girl who had a bad interaction and ruin her perception of men. I would analogize this to my Qanon phase, where my perception of reality was so fucked from paranoia that anything the internet said was warped or warped the ways I viewed other info I was getting and kept me delusional, to the …
/r/MensRights06/01/23 01:20 AM
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The difference I pointed out. a human makes itself, machinery is made, and you can think of this as AI art but art is made just like machinery, the only difference with AI art is a person made it by hand and a machine made it via imputs. This is not comparable to people and bots/androids/holographic AI. One is made for you by someone else, the other is made for itself by itself. genes and code are similar yeah, but genes were created on accident with emotion be it lust or love or hatred, with or…
/r/MensRights03/01/23 10:17 PM
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Dont you think thats a band-aid not a solution? The average of people who desire these will also desire intimacy, I grasp individuals like myself who just want one to get off, but I feel we're marginal. I suppose nothing is wrong with a band-aid, not until its a crutch and used to enable patheticness and self-pity. You can agree with that? That this can be taken to a point of self-destruction?
/r/MensRights03/01/23 09:33 PM
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Man, ive said this a thousand times, sex bots are only gonna make men even lonlier. Funny enough Blade Runner the 2017 one actually brushes this topic. Sex bots are just depression fuel once you realize they're a bot. Even if they have hyper realistic memories those memories are crafted, artificial, and made by some women in a lab who's only doing it to get paid. That's the breakdown moment.
/r/MensRights03/01/23 06:29 PM
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this is my black pill moment on mens mental health
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 08:23 PM
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Everything is the fault of women. cant get laid, women are why, lost the job, women caused that, died of cardiacarrest, women were in your life, dick dont work, women made it stop working... I guess we do need to start setting up those fire pits
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 08:03 PM
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