Why should I quit red pill

sensibl3chuckle · 2023-06-20T01:39:42+00:00

You'll never be able to trust your girl if you believe she's going to go hypergamy on you and leave you for a richer dude. It's going to block the growth and closeness of the relationship.

bluemagex2517 · 2023-06-19T23:10:37+00:00

Why are you here asking this question if the redpill is so good for you?

Carloverguy20 · 2023-06-20T01:13:12+00:00

You will slowly learn after time.

You are still a very young person. Wait after a year or two, and then you will get out of this redpilled mindset and realize that most of the redpill is just a pyramid scheme to trap vulnerable men into becoming bitter misogynists.

Downtown_Cat_1172 · 2023-06-19T23:32:14+00:00

Working out and trying to maximize your earnings isn't unique to redpill.

rbkforrestr · 2023-06-19T22:35:22+00:00

Does your girlfriend share your beliefs when you share them with her?

xvszero · 2023-06-19T22:38:23+00:00

Because it is rampantly sexist and there are better ways to self improve.

Unnecessary-Training · 2023-06-19T22:41:30+00:00

Redpill≠self-improvement. Unfortunately, what is true is that right now, redpillers seem to be the only people talking about the importance of self-improvement for men. Everywhere else, it's just meaningless feel-good platitudes. We need non-RP content creators who emphasise the importance of self-improvement for men.

ActionLegitimate · 2023-06-20T00:32:55+00:00

Your still a baby. I'm sure you will connect the dots and see through the farce once you realize all the bridges nearly each and everyone of these 'influencers' try to sell you. Whatever you do, don't buy the tactical soap.

They stand to profit in polarising times like the snake oil salesmen of old. Are some more egregious than others in this regard? Sure. But they all give out fools gold regardless.

Stargazer1919 · 2023-06-20T00:49:01+00:00

Because it's done a lot of damage to people's lives. Please use the search bar to look for such stories in this subreddit.

JuicyThighsSaveLives · 2023-06-19T23:00:55+00:00

We're going to use your relationship as an example (say it leads to marriage). I've been married over a decade, so I can say this next stuff with a lot of confidence.

The Manosphere/Red Pill uses an unbelievable amount of biases and what are called cognitive distortions to keep you mentally and emotionally stuck in place. Not necessarily maliciously, but it's something to be aware of so that you're using literal behavioral conditioning, like "Dread Game", on women safely (and hopefully with consent).

I'm sure you'd appreciate if she did the same, no?

Take one for instance: it's called "The Selection Effect", which in easier terms means they're cherry-picking data [about women and relationships] to show you only the points that are relevant to their particular points (ex: "AWALT"). They're NOT only about self-improvement.

Meaning we only see a selection of the outcomes, and therefore draw false conclusions.

So for instance, one of the biggest complaints of the Manosphere is that they use The Selection Effect to say that "marriages are bad because 50% of them lead in divorce", which is technically true. Check! [Enter "Confirmation Bias"]

However, when you look at the data many of those guys throw around and actually find the data they're pulling from, you learn that number includes the marriages of those who have been married 2-4+ times and also those people are responsible for most divorces. [Hey wait...]

The data also shows that those who have only been in that 1 marriage most often actually stay together and that The Selection Effect of only telling you about the ones that ruin it for those singlets makes you perceive that concept or probability incorrectly.

That's like your girlfriend telling you about the surprise bachelorette party that was thrown while she was "out with the girls", but NOT telling you <span class="md-spoiler-text">she slept with "that guy you didn't have to worry about"</span>. Technically the truth, she's not lying, but telling you only <span class="md-spoiler-text">a portion of the information</span> leads you to draw false conclusions.

It's good to read through just to see what kind of perspectives are out there regarding relationships and women, but it's definitely a "Do Not Stop & Do Not Collect $200" card from the Monopoly game. Don't stop here, read more...a lot more. Don't stop there. I promise you'll thank us later.

QueenPeachie · 2023-06-20T00:52:32+00:00

Because it doesn't view women as equal people and only encourages control and manipulation.

uniquename1992 · 2023-06-19T23:01:45+00:00

How did u discover rp and when did u consider yourself as RP then?

Andromeda_______ · 2023-06-20T16:36:35+00:00

Being motivated and active and being ambitious is NOT redpill.

Redpill is the belief that women are hypergamous and unable to truly love somebody. Redpill is the belief that relationships are transactional. Redpill is the belief that feminism has emasculated men and that men need to exert their authority back over women, which is the natural way of the world. Redpillers believe most men are fed the "blue pill", which leads them to idolise women, be ignorant of the truth that women are loveless whores who want your money, and stops them from being "alpha". Women settle for these men after being used up by the alphas.

Sounds like you're just motivated and disciplined, not redpill. You even have a legitimate girlfriend, not one you paid to sleep with. Definitely not redpill.

WalletSizedawildFire · 2023-06-20T02:54:27+00:00

Gives you a sexist and reductive view of women and relationships
Makes you judgemental and gives you a false sense of moral superiority
Red Pill can bring you to a state where you ignore your flaws and attribute your lack of getting laid or having good relationships with women to perceived societal problems outaide of your control like feminism, hypergamy, smv etc
The self improvement and motivational stuff is really only surface level and common sense to anyone i.e. lose weight, focus on your goals, prioritize and love yourself but the red pill community does this from a spiteful angle

Those are just some examples. I was red pilled for about 2 years and although I did improve myself during that time it was for the wrong reasons and my attitudes became warped, I found myself hating women, society, feminism etc. for my lack of having good relationships or getting laid. There are points to be made about modern dating, marriage and some women's insane dating standards but the red pill's answer for these things tend to be flawed. The red pill community is either rich gurus making money off of convincing you of their "advice" while selling you Tiege Hanley or some weird workout product while they themselves are dating single moms or are simps themselves or highly volitile and hurt man children who are deeply nihilistic because they can't get laid

MagnusQPie · 2023-06-20T02:52:51+00:00

Because the red pill/manosphere nonsense is inherently sexist and demeaning to women.

You wanting self improvement is great, but that’s not inherent to the red pill.

But if you listen to people like Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, Sneako, Pearl and the like, and don’t see anything wrong with their message, then I think you’ve got a problem.

Accomplished_Bus1375 · 2023-06-20T01:50:41+00:00

There is an old joke that says, "When you are dead you don't feel any pain, the pain is felt by those who love you. The same thing happens when you are stupid".

Substitute when you are red pill, when you are a butthole, when you are...ect and so on.

You asked why you should stop...it's not for your own sake, you know?

DiscipuluIgnotus · 2023-06-20T01:04:50+00:00

Take some things from them, but don’t indulge.

Yes, get your money up, get your body right and become a better man every day.

But don’t give into every last thing they say, or you’ll be scared to date women/grow hateful of “Western” women. And you’ll also begin to look down upon everyone around you.

weightgain40000 · 2023-06-20T08:15:28+00:00

Because its bad for your mental health (makes you bitter) yes SOME (obvious things like work on yourself) of it might be good advice but the good advice is often kind of not followed because the people that follow this movement are often already bitter and depressed and wont work on themselves, see no good results and want to blame someone else, it's also full of bad advice.

You're in an echo chamber that is biased, seems to only talk about alot of the negative and no positive in women and alot of the positive and no negative in men instead of admitting that sometimes both sexes can do things that are bad.

Revolutionary_Law793 · 2023-06-20T08:43:53+00:00

Do you think your gf should submit to you? :D

SufficientDot4099 · 2023-06-19T23:50:58+00:00

The people there don’t know what they’re talking about. They’re mostly people who spend all day online and don’t have that much experience with what they’re talking about. They just make shit up.

Beandevourer90 · 2023-06-19T22:50:07+00:00

Redpill = Toxic positivity

Revolutionary_Law793 · 2023-06-20T08:51:11+00:00

The reason to quit is you become more radical over time.

Naus1987 · 2023-06-19T22:53:01+00:00

Red pill is like feminism or Christianity. There’s way too many definitions to really cover all the details.

So as long as you’re not doing anything unethical, keep doing it. Just stay away from the labels. They’re weird!

Cult_of_rationality · 2023-06-20T00:18:06+00:00

Don’t quit, just don’t vocalize it. Your life will be immensely better with the information.

adibaba1995 · 2023-06-20T10:39:36+00:00

Both red pill and feminism are shit. Both genders are equally important and both need each other. A woman becomes toxic without a man. A man becomes violent without a woman.

Sinethial · 2023-06-20T01:52:27+00:00

Well if you're not happy about your results

Title	Why should I quit red pill
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Date	June 19, 2023 10:26 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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