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7

Sounds like that would be a useful thing to read.
/r/seduction20/01/13 03:19 AM
1

So, sounds like you couldn't handle her. /s
/r/seduction26/12/12 10:40 PM
1

I'm sure those looks you get on the street help keep your bed warm at night.
/r/seduction22/12/12 09:44 PM
1

Well yes. But recently I looked up the stats and 5'7 tall guys are in the 15th percentile among white males in the US. So that means 85% of guys are taller than I am. You are I believe around the 50th percentile.
/r/seduction22/12/12 04:27 AM
1

Limiting belief validated. Sex with attractive women is for guys 5'9 and over.
/r/seduction22/12/12 03:57 AM
2

Question to validate my limiting belief (TM): How tall are you?
/r/seduction22/12/12 02:26 AM
1

Thanks, I'm glad you're not offended anymore. Interesting thought about the smell, what kind of body washes do you mean? I hope you're not thinking of Axe Body Spray ;) I genuinely don't think it's that, though. Really, it's what people always talk about in /r/seduction . . . dominance, leadership, "being alpha". I've never liked that stuff. Then there's the height issue. Recently I discovered that at 5'7, I'm in the 15th percentile of height for US white males. In other words, 85% of the people…
/r/seduction25/11/12 01:07 AM
2

It's funny, most of the time women posting on reddit deny that they make themselves look good with men in mind.
/r/seduction25/11/12 12:19 AM
1

I try to be as straightforward as I can online, since I have nothing to hide. I try not to be self-deprecating in person. I realize it's a problem, but self-hatred feels so good. I want to punish myself for being a small Jewish boy, instead of a 6' tall blond-haired jock with an easy smile. I wish I could pay someone to beat the shit out of me for it. Generally, in real life, I just make jokes and hope people tolerate my presence. I really have nothing positive to offer women in a sexual or roma…
/r/seduction25/11/12 12:19 AM
0

You hardly sound like the general case. I think in most cases women start out assuming they can have any guy they want, and then when they're old enough that that's not the case anymore, they just pretend like they never wanted men to begin with.
/r/seduction24/11/12 11:09 PM
1

I'm not saying I'm unattractive, though that's obviously the conclusion to draw here. I'm pretty sure that with me, being called interesting is just an excuse, like saying "you're nice, but . . . " except I try to avoid falling into the "nice" category. Back in high school it made me really resentful that girls would claim that they enjoyed talking to me but wouldn't let me do something that I would enjoy doing with them. It made me feel like I was being used for my "interesting conversation". I…
/r/seduction24/11/12 10:28 PM
1

Cause "You're interesting, but . . ."
/r/seduction24/11/12 10:06 PM
1

Pretty sure I'm not invited . . .
/r/seduction24/11/12 09:35 PM
1

Firstworldproblems. If I had to worry about whether to "make people my friends" or reject them entirely, pretty sure I wouldn't be complaining.
/r/seduction18/11/12 03:52 PM
1

Yeah but when you're dealing with shit you kind of want to believe that someday you can be just like all those normal people and you're not just stuck with this for the rest of your life.
/r/seduction03/11/12 11:11 PM
2

I've never known how to play like a kid. Even when I was little I was trying to design machines and getting into philosophical arguments. It's just not really in me. I always need to have a goal in mind and be moving toward that goal.
/r/seduction21/07/12 12:54 AM
2

This may be the first RSD video where I was willing to get past what a complete nutjob Tyler Durden is and actually listen to what he's saying.
/r/seduction14/07/12 04:46 PM
4

I wish I could have been a fly on the wall when that happened.
/r/seduction14/07/12 04:46 PM
1

The way I interpret your earlier response is, "No matter how bad I am at writing, I can still write, because I'm doing it for me." And my point is that this makes sense up until you need someone else's approval to get further in your career. Then suddenly it matters if you're not the best writer.
/r/seduction07/07/12 01:56 AM
1

Yeah, it's easy to write for fun, because nobody's judging you and you can spend an evening writing your pickup article or your Harry Potter fanfiction or whatever and look at it and think about how clever you are. Trying to write for a living is very different, because no matter how fine you are with the superiority of other writers, the publishers and readers won't be. You can talk all you want about how other people's opinions don't matter, but getting published is all about other people's op…
/r/seduction06/07/12 04:55 AM
1

I'm not saying give up, it's not even an option. Dum spiro spero, and all that. But I think the basic mantra of PUAdom that anyone can do as well as they like as long as they put in the effort seems more and more questionable to me as time goes on.
/r/seduction06/07/12 01:29 AM
2

Essentially, your argument is just a variation of Napoleon Dynamite's "girls only want guys who have great skills." How many worthless pieces of shit are there who don't do anything but play basketball in the park and drink beer with their buddies and get laid more times in a year than you or I will in our entire lives? It's got nothing to do with knowing how to dance or dressing like a wannabe Don Draper. There are people out there who have never been to another country, couldn't tell you if Ru…
/r/seduction05/07/12 10:18 PM
1

They've had sex with more women than most people in /r/seduction. QED.
/r/seduction05/07/12 08:26 PM
1

And yet they're successful at this. So we know it's not about being intriguing.
/r/seduction05/07/12 08:12 PM
2

http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/w2tja/til_there_are_3_men_in_tennessee_that_have_had_a/ You think these guys are "intriguing" or "accomplished"?
/r/seduction05/07/12 07:28 PM
2

All I was trying to say was that your reasons could easily be implied by the word "honor".
/r/seduction04/07/12 01:50 AM
8

Segway
/r/seduction03/07/12 11:35 PM
3

I assume you're the "thinking man" who wrote this? Have you ever actually met anyone like Tony Stark (a womanizing billionaire)? How do you know that any of the things you imagine about him are true?
/r/seduction03/07/12 11:34 PM
6

I think that says it pretty well. But maybe for some people "honor" is just another way of saying "self-respect" or "dignity". There's honor with respect to others, and honor with respect to yourself. So I think the distinction between valid and invalid moral codes is not as clear here as you suggest.
/r/seduction03/07/12 11:20 PM
4

What is that webcomic where the girl says she likes sex just as much as guys do, then the guy says, "Ok, then let's go have sex in the bathroom" and she says "gross". I can't find it. Anyway, that. Also, find me the romance novel featuring a short, balding, Woody Allen type fellow on the cover.
/r/seduction26/06/12 01:33 AM
3

She seems really aloof and self-centered. I guess all women are like that, though. They never think they might be doing something wrong, it's all about what they want and what other people around them are doing wrong. A decade from now she'll be married and divorced and writing long essays about being an independent woman and how this is the post-marriage decade.
/r/seduction23/05/12 03:05 PM
2

Topics about wives on AskReddit. Pain and misery, pages and pages of it.
/r/seduction10/05/12 01:14 AM
1

Hey, I'm going too! Last year my camp had a reddit meetup, we'll see if it happens again this year.
/r/seduction10/05/12 12:51 AM
1

I liked that picture of David Hasselhoff too.
/r/seduction10/05/12 12:43 AM
2

Yeah, but I have this problem and I don't get a lot of sex. I'm just suspicious of "deep connections" and frankly doubtful that they exist. All I see around me is people who are using each other or are too scared to be alone. Also, I know I'm fucked up and I don't want to hurt people.
/r/seduction10/05/12 12:39 AM
2

I can access this mode of thinking fairly easily, but it just becomes overwhelming. I see all these stupid people going about their stupid business, think about how vulnerable and lost we all are, and it just makes me want to cry. And then I think, what's the point of talking to these hopeless, desperate people, when all I can offer them is more hopelessness and despair. I can't save them, I can't be their protector, at best I can lie to them. Really, I was hoping for an alternative viewpoint fr…
/r/seduction23/04/12 01:25 AM
3

So what is their motivation, and how does one understand it?
/r/seduction22/04/12 06:08 PM
2

So what are the urges and aspirations that one should appeal to in a seduction context? I still have no idea.
/r/seduction22/04/12 03:57 PM
1

So what does your cousin do when he goes out? Any general observations?
/r/seduction22/04/12 03:18 PM
1

Maybe one of these days you'll get to see yourself if such a self-perception would be accurate on my part.
/r/seduction10/04/12 03:52 PM
0

See, this is exactly the kind of obnoxious douchebaggery I'm protesting.
/r/seduction09/04/12 02:36 PM
0

My point was simply that it turns out I know better than these other guys who I should try dancing with and who I shouldn't. Sometimes you can tell people want to be left alone, you know?
/r/seduction09/04/12 04:17 AM
0

I don't know, I haven't generally left the most positive impression on people. Don't want to ruin people's night.
/r/seduction09/04/12 01:56 AM
1

Well, usually because they point me to someone I'm not interested in or who I can tell isn't interested in me. Not saying this happens often, but it has happened. Last time was at a club. All these guys are standing around and going "Yo man, you should totally dance with that girl over there" so I figure might as well try it, but it never worked. Should have trusted my instincts.
/r/seduction09/04/12 01:43 AM
1

I've known a few people who would say this to me every so often and it grows tiresome. Also, "Hey, that girl totally just checked you out" and "Hey, you should totally go and talk to those girls over there." It seems to say more about the mindset of the person saying it than about me or the girl(s) in question.
/r/seduction09/04/12 12:41 AM
1

Funny, I was just reading a book about psychoanalysis and the author was pretty much saying the same thing. That people go to see her and they expect her to be a magic cure, or they displace their responsibility onto her. Really, nobody can help, that's the conclusion I've come to.
/r/seduction07/04/12 12:41 AM
3

What top shelf drinks did you get?
/r/seduction18/03/12 10:31 PM
5

BUT HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE AVERAGE MOTHERFUCKER WHO WANTS TO FUCK HIS LITTLE FUCKING COUSIN???
/r/seduction20/02/12 04:35 AM
7

It's when you subtly cock up a phrase to "program" your interlocutor's emotional state with your word choice.
/r/seduction14/02/12 09:28 PM
18

I want Zach Galifinakis to play this guy in a movie about PUA.
/r/seduction08/02/12 08:39 PM
2

Reminds me of this.
/r/seduction27/01/12 08:20 PM
9

Why are these videos always showing 6' tall handsome guys? Coincidence?
/r/seduction26/01/12 01:53 AM
1

That argument would have a lot more force if you were with someone who's short, fat, or ugly. Really, what's the average height of the individuals who stirred such pride in you that you felt compelled to share with them the fondest tokens of your affection?
/r/seduction20/01/12 01:37 AM
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Well, 1) Some reaction is better than no reaction 2) Maybe it would make me feel like I have some measure of control. Relax, I'm not actually going to do it. I have no balls.
/r/seduction19/01/12 03:27 PM
0

What's the easiest way to make a girl go home in tears? Is it easier than getting her to fuck you?
/r/seduction19/01/12 05:38 AM
5

Any comments on conversation? A lot of people here advocate specific conversational techniques or subjects. Often people talk about avoiding "boring" topics like where you're from, what's your major, etc. Do you find that this actually makes a difference? Have you ever changed your mind about someone based on a conversation?
/r/seduction18/01/12 12:54 AM
3

...Aaaand we're back in 5th grade.
/r/seduction18/01/12 12:48 AM
1

Guess I'm screwed regardless, then.
/r/seduction14/01/12 05:18 PM
2

How the fuck do you start a conversation with "hi"? Me: "Hi" Her: " . . . Hi?" Now I need something else to say.
/r/seduction14/01/12 03:14 PM
1

Yeah, I notice that a lot of people who are good with other people have a disturbing lack of objectivity. They believe really absurd things that an objective look at their life would seem to say they can't possibly believe. Like the guy in question would sometimes say that he's only looking for a long term relationship and then go out and bang women who he had no intention of settling down with. Or the stereotypical "straight" guy who goes out and bangs dudes. Basically, it seems that the greate…
/r/seduction12/01/12 04:56 PM
2

Well, it's the Eternal September problem, every online forum has it.
/r/seduction12/01/12 04:11 PM
61

I read this on sosuave years ago . . . seems like one of those internet things. I don't know if I believe it, to be honest. 80% success rate? I probably couldn't get a girl to tell me the time with an 80% success rate.
/r/seduction12/01/12 03:27 AM
3

Also, some guys who succeed with women really do seem to look down on them. I have a coworker who would always talk about all the little things he disliked about every woman he slept with. I think in the past 5 years there have been about 20. And he would describe them in the most condescending way, like they were used furniture or something. Also, he genuinely doesn't seem to care about their opinions. He just assumes that because they're women, their opinions aren't as valid. I don't really ge…
/r/seduction12/01/12 03:21 AM
1

If you already talk to her on a regular basis, how is that distinct from "asking her out"?
/r/seduction12/01/12 02:13 AM
3

The word "friend" is pretty wibbly wobbly to begin with. I don't really understand what it means. Where is it written that X and Y are friends? In my experience, the word is used in two basic contexts: when you want to explain how you know someone ("I'm here to meet my friend", "My friends and I went bowling," etc. because the detail is irrelevant) or when you want to assert some kind of obligation ("You know I'm your friend, you can trust me" or "Hey, friend, can you give me a ride in the morni…
/r/seduction11/01/12 01:32 AM
2

"Oh my god, sorry, I have a boyfrieeeeeend!!!" or "Oh, no thank youuuuuu!!!" or "It's ok. Thanks." should all work splendidly. Try to say these lines before they can actually tell you what they want.
/r/seduction10/01/12 01:41 AM
7

Here's another story of my failures to inspire you (I have dozens of these): In my digital radio design class, there was a girl that I liked. Just visually, because I had never actually spoken to her. She was Asian, of course. But not fobbish, more twinkie-like. My friend in that class would often pressure me to talk to her. I of course was completely unable to do so. One day, we sat down behind her. I was holding a cup of coffee. She was wearing a white silk shirt. As I sat down, a drop of coff…
/r/seduction09/01/12 03:12 AM
1

Right, but the "how do I get her to agree" is still the key factor, and there's no way you can negotiate that.
/r/seduction08/01/12 04:42 AM
2

But how do you set the agenda without being able to talk about it? In a meeting, someone will say, "Here are the things we need to decide by the end of the meeting." Then we start discussing item 1. If we stop making progress, we move on to item 2, etc. If we are unable to come to an agreement, we write down subjects to investigate so we can reconvene and have a more productive discussion. But I don't see anything to agree on in the context of a date. In fact, after all this time I still don't u…
/r/seduction08/01/12 02:52 AM
1

What moral implications are you referring to (sex, not murder)?
/r/seduction02/01/12 08:50 AM
3

When it came to flirting, I knew that my intentions were honorable. I didn’t have a sleazy agenda, I wasn’t trying to trick girls into sleeping with me. That made it much easier. Can someone explain this? On one hand, we are not supposed to think of sex as shameful or dirty, but on the other, it's "sleazy" to want to have sex with girls? What's the deal? Exactly what is ok to want and what isn't?
/r/seduction02/01/12 04:55 AM
26

$3000 for a three-day weekend power session, $400 for the 12-DVD series.
/r/seduction28/12/11 11:45 PM
87

OK, now I'm sad again. Time to masturbate and go back to sleep.
/r/seduction28/12/11 05:17 PM
11

YOU'RE GOING TO DIE IN 50 YEARS!!! GO!!!
/r/seduction28/12/11 01:48 AM
1

I wouldn't mind meeting some dumb and easy girls . . .
/r/seduction24/12/11 01:29 AM
1

Yeah, I never look at porn, so we know porn can't be the problem.
/r/seduction22/12/11 04:17 AM
1

And what would that be, exactly?
/r/seduction17/12/11 04:32 PM
4

Well, I think the idea of going to a bar and getting drunk specifically with the intention of meeting girls as a result of doing so is fundamentally incompatible with self-respect. So there go 90% of practical implementations of seddit doctrine. But then if I focus on the things I want to be doing, I won't be meeting them at all.
/r/seduction07/12/11 03:19 PM
1

It's important, though. You should work on that.
/r/seduction04/12/11 08:04 PM
1

I read a description of this in House of God, which is sort of the bible of such shenanigans. I asked my med student friend if this really happens, and he says it pretty much only happened in the 70s. The relevant passage is here: Often I'd find myself entwined in variants of the same erotic theme: late at night, the eerie artificial Unit light punctured only by the green-flashing BLEEP-BLEEP of the cardiac monitors. The nurse calls me from the bed to see a comatose patient whose body is being r…
/r/seduction30/11/11 08:41 PM
3

I think the problem is that some people just aren't "fun" people. So saying "just be fun" is basically like saying "be someone else". For some people, overthinking things is actually much more fun than whatever it is that fun people do. And it seems unfair that just because someone has a different personality, they basically have no hope of getting laid. I mean, these are not bad people, necessarily. Though perhaps inability to be "fun" in the traditional sense is a serious enough flaw that the …
/r/seduction28/11/11 01:53 AM
1

Well at least you admitted that it's out of spite. Sometimes I won't make a move on a girl who is plainly waiting for me to make a move, just out of spite. Us spiteful people don't do very well, it seems.
/r/seduction27/11/11 10:46 PM
1

It's not at all obvious to me how his three rules imply that you need to "build an emotional connection" and get her to tell you exactly why she dislikes California. I know it's common knowledge or something, but I still haven't seen an explanation that reaches me.
/r/seduction24/11/11 01:13 AM
1

It would never happen to you because you would never make it to the 4th date?
/r/seduction24/11/11 12:16 AM
2

Well if they're prunes, warm water will loosen them right up. Plus, they'll loosen you up if you eat them.
/r/seduction19/11/11 03:29 AM
4

He's probably not Asian.
/r/seduction19/11/11 03:21 AM
1

So how do you avoid showing your emotions? I have a feeling that they're more stable than everyone else's, you just can't compare. You seem to be very willing to take things at face value without trying to understand what they actually are. In my opinion, human beings have no "depth". They are just a hall of mirrors. You can keep going and you get different answers as you go, but they don't seem to be indicative of something more fundamental. Someone might say they hate religion, and later revea…
/r/seduction18/11/11 02:40 PM
2

So, in general I have had a pretty terrible experience interacting with other people. Complete opposite of you. But I agree with you in how you feel about all the terminology and the formalized methods. Many of the more experienced regulars don't advocate the methods. They say that the most important thing is to just go out and talk to people, however you can, and gain experience. I mostly go to this subreddit for the rare insights like your post (a few of the regulars, TofuTofu and frogma are o…
/r/seduction18/11/11 01:01 AM
8

As I recall, though, the whole point of the movie is that Vince Vaughn is a crazy misogynistic twit whose antics are funny for a while, but they get old and he ends up alone in the end. The point is, you don't have to be like him to succeed with women. I don't know if that's true or not, but that's how the movie works. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want the end result of my training, such as it is, to be that I end up like Vince Vaughn (In truth, I am much worse than him and will remain so, but set…
/r/seduction14/11/11 03:28 AM
1

I don't understand how that's not transparent. If you're at a bar and start talking to a bunch of guys you've never met who happen to be with a hot girl, isn't it obvious what you're after?
/r/seduction13/11/11 05:02 PM
1

I'm white, and to me, it seems completely the opposite. Seems like white women in clubs prefer black guys who are more masculine or whatever. I know it's bullshit. Just saying that to put things in perspective.
/r/seduction12/11/11 09:59 PM
2

I think that being able to do 5-6 nights per week at 8 hours a night is already impressive in itself.
/r/seduction24/10/11 03:47 PM
2

I still think you started off farther ahead than most of the people like me who are truly incompetent socially. I mean, you say "months" but it has been years for me since I've started going out and trying to internalize these principles and I still pretty much feel like nobody will ever see me as a "guy #2." Lately I've been thinking that I'm just 10 years behind most people's social development, so at 29 I'm like a typical shy 19 year old. But it's worse than that of course because 19 year old…
/r/seduction23/10/11 07:47 PM
2

"I didn't take it out for air."
/r/seduction20/10/11 04:15 PM
1

But she's not gonna be on your side whether she says she's your friend or not. The only person whose side she's on is the person (people) she's fucking. Other than that, she's not anybody's friend. That realization is what made me want to figure out how to have sex with girls. Not because I'm particularly interested in sticking my penis into dark, difficult to reach places, but because I can never really be friends with somebody if I'm in a secondary category to the people who really matter.
/r/seduction20/10/11 04:13 PM
1

The interesting thing, though, is that so many people believe in themselves (sometimes to a fault) and yet manage to be completely fuck things up socially over and over again.
/r/seduction11/10/11 12:27 AM
3

It'll cost more than you think, you'll probably need to hire some people to pretend to be my friends.
/r/seduction08/10/11 11:50 PM
28

I want to see them do an episode like "Picking Up Girls While Obviously Tired, Insecure, and Cranky." That would really apply to me.
/r/seduction08/10/11 06:04 PM
1

I'm only typing this comment because my dick is so big that I can't keep it from hitting the keyboard.
/r/seduction08/10/11 05:54 PM
1

That professor sounds like an utter creep.
/r/seduction05/10/11 11:05 PM
1

Well, at least he doesn't get shin splints.
/r/seduction05/10/11 10:54 PM
1

It sounds like you would prefer if they didn't talk to you to begin with. Which matches my intuition but contradicts the overall theme of this subreddit. So I don't really get it.
/r/seduction03/10/11 03:57 AM
1

I don't think "just be yourself" means "don't improve anything about yourself." I think it's about self-acceptance. Neither does it mean "just be yourself and everyone will like you." I know that's what people who seek this kind of advice want to hear, but I think it's really about not changing yourself in the futile hope of pleasing everyone. Lack of self-acceptance is the #1 problem that people who seek help in this arena have [citation needed]. This is discussed in depth in Intimate Connectio…
/r/seduction28/09/11 07:50 PM
1

I completely agree that he seems to have had a very one sided perspective. He believed that nothing less than his initial aspirations could be good enough for him.
/r/seduction25/09/11 03:34 AM
1

I think my point is more that I think to lonely people, everybody can seem like a lifeline and we agonize over every interaction, whereas for someone like her, it's really not a big deal either way. And that is to say that I think it's silly to think about asking out everybody you develop a minimum of rapport with.
/r/seduction20/09/11 05:55 PM
2

I had a thought today. A depressing one. I know, I know, here I am again with my negativity. I go to a cafeteria most days where there is an extremely friendly cashier. She is always very friendly to me. She smiles at me and clearly recognizes me. I swear, her smile is the single biggest validation I have of the idea that we should all smile at people. Because I think hers makes the world a better place. *Ahem*. So anyway, at first I was like, well I should really start saying hi to her. And the…
/r/seduction20/09/11 02:41 AM
2

Schwing!
/r/seduction18/09/11 01:44 AM
1

"Oh I want your mumbling autistic cock!" "Mnnmmmnnmmhhhnnn" "Oh fuck me you big autistic buffoon!" "Hhhnnn Hhhnnn hhhhnnnn"
/r/seduction18/09/11 01:42 AM
1

To all the naysayers, I can definitively say that this can succeed. I've done it. My first and second hookups ever were the result. But the probability of success is low, and you do risk making a negative impression. It's all about how she responds to this random message, and only she has control over that. You can't improve your chances by smiling extra hard when you click "send" or anything. My recommendation is, if you do decide to do it, don't approach it like it's a big deal. Definitely don…
/r/seduction15/09/11 02:40 AM
2

I think this is a good article and the only thing that really needs to be said.
/r/seduction15/09/11 02:11 AM
1

Reminds me of that scene from Brief Interviews With Hideous Men: 'What it is is--well first there's always some girls around. You know what I mean? At the foundry there, at the Lanes. There's a tavern right down by the bus stop there. Jackpot--that's my best friend -- Jackpot and Kenny Kirk -- Kenny Kirk's his cousin, Jackpot's, that are both over me at the foundry cause I finished school and didn't get in the union till after-- they're real good looking and normal looking and Good With The Ladi…
/r/seduction20/08/11 02:48 PM
0

Yeah, it's tough when everybody turns you off.
/r/seduction19/08/11 01:23 AM
3

Well, she serves an important function, which is making guys like me feel like we have a chance with the girls we really want.
/r/seduction18/08/11 12:46 AM
1

Is this your OkCupid SNL #2? I know the answer you'd give in this situation: keep going out, and keep up the good work. You're obviously too emotionally invested in this. And I can see why: she dangled herself in front of you, then rejected you. I know how it feels. But don't do the hamster wheel thing. Just move on. I don't know what I'm talking about. But I've had a few, so here goes anyway. I don't know what you were looking for with her, since it seems like you specialize in one night stands…
/r/seduction16/08/11 04:51 AM
2

Stepping into the feminist blogosphere is like falling down a rabbit hole. Every time I spend hours reading cross-linked blog entries and pretty much conclude I should spend the rest of my life in my room.
/r/seduction14/08/11 04:56 PM
2

What I'm curious about here is the relationship (in the aforementioned fictional characters) of excessive drinking to the womanizing - why does this relationship exist, and is it a beneficial one to pursue? Is it just that people who go for they want overindulge in everything? Or does it help somehow? Secondly, the idea of sex not as the natural culmination of a positive interaction with another person (which, as a fantasy, is not really that appealing), but as some kind of hedonistic ritual bet…
/r/seduction28/07/11 01:42 AM
9

I just want to throw this out there because it's not usually mentioned: McNulty from The Wire. Secondly, I want to ask: the advice on this site is usually to be happy with oneself, to have lots of friends, be outgoing, etc. Which makes sense but it's pretty much exactly the opposite of my personality. The movie stereotype of the guy who gets laid a lot (McNulty, Hank Moody, Don Draper, Dex) is the tortured loner who drinks a lot and picks up women for "meaningless sex" not because he likes it bu…
/r/seduction28/07/11 12:11 AM
5

And it's not like any of them are gonna save you. Probably just laugh as the pool fills up with bodies.
/r/seduction14/07/11 07:01 PM
2

I made some of them up . . . but there's a glossary here.
/r/seduction08/07/11 02:45 AM
2

Parody is my forté :)
/r/seduction08/07/11 01:06 AM
11

If he were a pickup guy the post would start like this: Sure, but my point is that f-closing is vastly more than pulchritudinous priming. It's conversational priming, state, prequalification, social proof, kino, push-pull, and comfort. So guys who think that the best possible f-close is with an HB10 are AFCs and are missing out. I'm a seduction coach now and not playing the field anymore, but I used to joke that HBs were always surprised to be f-closed by me but never sorry. I couldn't rewrite t…
/r/seduction06/07/11 02:41 PM
1

So how is Ken doing nowadays?
/r/seduction04/07/11 01:48 AM
5

I call confirmation bias. She chose the experience she thought she should have so she could write about it and claim to have understood. Like a person might go to Germany for a week and then claim to have developed a deep love for beer (even though many Germans don't like beer). Or a person might spend a week with a native tribe and then claim to have developed a new connection with nature. But yes, in my experience, women have this assigned cultural role of being nurturing, sensitive, and good …
/r/seduction02/07/11 09:45 PM
5

I like this one.
/r/seduction01/07/11 01:43 PM
2

Yeah, might wanna call the ambulance after saying that one, cause her eyes will roll so far back in her head she won't be able to roll them back again.
/r/seduction01/07/11 05:45 AM
1

Yeah, unfortunately most of these are desperate attempts to play the comment off as a joke. Like that will fool anybody. I've even used some of them and it lets me save an eensy bit of face (like I'm pretending to still be having fun), but we both know where I stand. I think the reality is, when you're obviously a loser you don't have many options as to where things will go.
/r/seduction01/07/11 04:54 AM
1

And she wasn't even hot in real life.
/r/seduction01/07/11 01:37 AM
2

OK, get laid legally in the US
/r/seduction01/07/11 01:35 AM
33

"You know I'm better looking than you, right?"
/r/seduction01/07/11 01:26 AM
17

"You're kinda scrawny"
/r/seduction01/07/11 01:26 AM
26

"I have a boyfriend"
/r/seduction01/07/11 01:26 AM
2

I've always found "dating" to be an extremely confusing term, and people use in different ways. Does "dating" simply mean "going on dates with people"? Is a first date considered an element of "dating"? Or is it more serious than that but not as serious as a "relationship"? I mean, if I go on three first dates in a week I wouldn't expect that to be considered "dating multiple women." Three second dates? Still not sure. I've been on up to four dates with any given girl, but I somehow feel that no…
/r/seduction29/06/11 12:20 AM
1

As long as everyone is honest and understanding How often is that the case?
/r/seduction28/06/11 11:52 PM
1

I recently read the book Intimate Connections. I think it's refreshingly straightforward. No stupid acronyms, no deep undercurrent of hostility and bitterness. This is a guy who has a lot of experience as a psychologist, and it shows in how balanced his approach is. And he covers all the same topics (including Last Minute Resistance and personal ads) that we find discussed over and over on this subreddit. The advice boils down to two things though: accept yourself, and meet as many people as pos…
/r/seduction26/06/11 12:18 AM
1

I'd be curious to know what they say.
/r/seduction23/06/11 01:19 AM
0

Bars and clubs are also a restricted subset of the population, though.
/r/seduction21/06/11 04:22 PM
1

Thanks for the encouragement. I came to the same conclusions as you. Yes, I should have gone to Location A, it was a chance encounter, should have stayed with them for a few minutes and left it at that. Simple, right? But when I was in the middle of it, it felt like I was in. I feel so stupid because now I realize she was just being flirty and probably boosting her own ego, she had no actual interest in me. And I was falling for it. I always do this. Everybody is always acting positive, nobody w…
/r/seduction19/06/11 11:18 PM
3

When you pull people they instinctively resist. They are like donkeys in this way.
/r/seduction17/06/11 05:22 PM
2

If you're approaching every girl you find attractive and not getting more than three kisses over two years, you're probably being too timid. And I say that as an extremely timid person.
/r/seduction17/06/11 03:30 PM
1

I think OkCupid puts recently changed profiles on people's front page, so that could be part of the reason why you're getting more attention.
/r/seduction13/06/11 11:51 PM
0

How did you come to be hosting her? Is this a couchsurfing thing?
/r/seduction11/06/11 11:17 PM
2

Reading the newspaper and making sure he's done his homework for the evening.
/r/seduction11/06/11 09:15 PM
0

You should be able to figure out what works and what does not for yourself. I agree that this is what has to happen, but it seems terribly doubtful that someone who wasn't able to learn it through high school and college would suddenly be able to figure it out after a few months (or years) of going to bars. It's like somebody who hasn't touched music all his life suddenly picking up a violin and deciding he's going to be a virtuoso in a few years.
/r/seduction11/06/11 09:10 PM
2

You actually say that to random girls on the street? At that point, what more is there to talk about? I mean, having started that way, where can the conversation go from there? And if you just get her number, how many of them end up flaking?
/r/seduction08/06/11 02:01 PM
2

I have the same problem. I think the issue is that we're looking for external validation. I've had a few times where I was just having fun with a girl and it made no difference who was better and who was the prize. We just enjoyed each others' company. Ultimately the key, I think, is not to need a prize at all. It's like this, I think I've realized. It's like you have the ocean in front of you, and you have to swim across it, and nobody's gonna tell you halfway through, "Ok, good enough, you can…
/r/seduction08/06/11 01:35 AM
1

May I ask how long it took you to improve?
/r/seduction08/06/11 12:16 AM
1

I agree, it always seemed hokey to me. But "fake it till you make it" is also part of that.
/r/seduction06/06/11 03:14 AM
3

It seems like most of the "inner game" advice centers around affirmations of some form, though. Are there any alternatives?
/r/seduction06/06/11 12:31 AM
2

I agree with this. I've met a lot of people from OkCupid, but I pretty much fell flat on my face every time. Usually I could tell it was over within about a minute of meeting in real life.
/r/seduction04/06/11 12:19 AM
0

From reading your FRs, it seems hard to believe that Brad Pitt could possibly do any better.
/r/seduction02/06/11 04:29 PM
2

I've heard that before, actually. Except he's a full 6" taller than me.
/r/seduction02/06/11 04:48 AM
1

I am more or less implementing your advice, but progress is slow and sometimes I'm not sure if there is any at all. do that thing you always wanted to do Women are the thing I always wanted to do ;)
/r/seduction02/06/11 04:12 AM
2

Unfortunately, in order for me to have pictures of myself looking less depressed and more gregarious, I would have to be less depressed and more gregarious.
/r/seduction02/06/11 03:25 AM
3

I mean, I've read all the stuff. That's what I'm referring to when I talk about "established theories of attraction." Clearly I'm not that person. I'm not "leader of men" or Bill Clinton or the source of fun in everybody's lives. And the more aware I am of where I need to end up in order for women to be interested in me, the farther it seems I have to go. And the amount I have to "offer a companion" seems so impossibly smaller than what the Bill Clintons of the world can that it seems pointless …
/r/seduction02/06/11 03:22 AM
3

Hmm, I didn't think it was that negative. Sort of wry and minimalistic is how I would have described it. I would have thought that this would go some way toward creating this air of mystery that you refer to. Unfortunately, I am very much like a real-life Eeyore. I'd very much like not to be this way and I'm hoping it will change slowly, but for now it is what it is. I find it difficult to reconcile being unapologetic about who I am with the fact that who I am is clearly unacceptable based on es…
/r/seduction02/06/11 12:55 AM
2

I've more or less given up at this point, it seems like nothing I write makes a difference. I recently deleted most of it with a plan to rewrite it, but never ended up writing anything. So I don't really stand behind my profile at present. It's probably kind of embarrassing to share among you experts, but here it is (removed link).
/r/seduction01/06/11 11:43 PM
1

Well I guess you're luckier than me, then.
/r/seduction01/06/11 11:17 PM
3

I've had a large number of conversations and message exchanges, both extended and brief. My log of OKC chats over just the past two years is 7MB. I have met over 40 people from OKC. Never have I ever experienced a girl trying to be funny to me.
/r/seduction01/06/11 11:03 PM
2

Probably can't compete against someone who has both looks and the "awesome and ridiculous profile," though.
/r/seduction01/06/11 10:03 PM
1

I thought looks don't matter.
/r/seduction01/06/11 09:28 PM
26

I was going to say the same thing. Either this is an unusually intelligent girl, or all the ones I talk to are even less interested than I thought.
/r/seduction01/06/11 08:38 PM
8

Thank you for your response, I appreciate your honesty. My experience was that I didn't invest enough in social interaction. I'd like to read and do all these other things to "focus on my life", but if I spend all my time in my room (or on a boat, or on a bike, whatever) doing the things I'm interested in, how will I ever meet people?
/r/seduction01/06/11 04:03 PM
4

When I see posts like this, I really want to know more about the individual. I mean, you make yourself sound like the Dos Equis guy, but what's the Dos Equis guy doing posting on a self-help online forum? The second thing I always want to know with posts like this is, if you really do have the mentality that you just don't care about anybody, then what's the point? It's like if someone said, "to me cars are just a means of transportation," but then you see they collect cars and post on car forum…
/r/seduction01/06/11 03:40 PM
1

I don't get it. Why don't you just go somewhere?
/r/seduction01/06/11 03:34 PM
1

Thanks. I get the impression she just doesn't have a wealth of experience giving out her number so she immediately reached for her pen and paper, it didn't even occur to her that I could enter it right in my phone. But then I decided it would be so much cuter to do it this way. And now I have this token with her handwriting, more personal, you know? Do you think I did the best I could with the texting? Perhaps I could have said something different that would have enabled us to meet again, I keep…
/r/seduction30/05/11 04:22 PM
1

Me neither. Posting night after night how I went out and didn't talk to anybody, or had a boring conversation with one person I wasn't interested in, seems pointless.
/r/seduction28/05/11 12:38 AM
1

Gosh, is this really how normal people talk? The conversation seemed really dull and forced to me. Maybe this is just me having overly high standards, but if I were having a conversation like that, I would have assumed I was boring the other person to death and ejected.
/r/seduction26/05/11 03:18 AM
2

Well, of course you can't be expected to hold up the conversation all on your own, if that's what you're saying. But that's different from "try to engage my interest in a clever or interesting fashion" which makes me imagine that you will settle for nothing less than a Cyrano de Bergerac-type ploy. For the record, what are some of the ways people have successfully engaged your interest in a clever or interesting fashion?
/r/seduction25/05/11 08:26 PM
2

Well, people on here say not to buy girls drinks for the reason that it's a transparent way of trying to buy one's way in. I would think entertainment would follow the same rule. And, it's too easy for it to turn into approval seeking (i.e. make a joke, wait for a response, if it's not funny enough try harder). I guess the question is, maybe you will respond positively to a person who comes up to you out of nowhere and tries to make you laugh, but will you really be able to take that person seri…
/r/seduction25/05/11 08:03 PM
2

It seems like what you are saying is, you don't want to be approached, and in fact you go out of your way to avoid being approached by men (by going to gay clubs, for example). This confirms what I've believed all along -- that women don't want to be approached randomly. But it goes against the common advice on seddit that guys should practice by approaching random women. In my experience, this has never led to positive results. Usually they see me and just say "No thank you" as if I were going …
/r/seduction25/05/11 05:33 PM
7

This is a total shot in the dark but . . . You're clearly a driven individual who has accomplished something myself and many others on this site can only dream of doing. Yet you say you're only moderately successful in business. Perhaps you need to find a new challenge, whether in work or as a hobby. I think that people like you have the power to make the world a better place when they take on a cause that they believe in. Is there anything you believe in strongly? The enivronment? Politics? Wom…
/r/seduction24/05/11 06:57 PM
-2

I think a lot of guys would have sex with their sister if she asked nicely.
/r/seduction23/05/11 02:59 PM
4

See, that's the difference. You're only "friendzoned" until you decide not to be. But if I said that to a girl, she'd be all like, "What do you think I am, a whore? Maybe some other girls are like that, but I'm not. I don't have sex unless I'm dating a guy. Do you think I fuck every guy I'm friends with? Is that all I am to you, just somebody you want to fuck? Is that why you wanted to run with me today? As an excuse to fuck me? You know what? Whatever. I'll pick up my stuff another time. I'm go…
/r/seduction23/05/11 12:26 AM
3

yes, girls can be friendzoned, too! We ended up cutting our second run together short so we could go back to his place and have sex. I wish I could get friendzoned like that.
/r/seduction22/05/11 08:58 PM
2

Some of us aren't as gifted as you.
/r/seduction18/05/11 07:37 PM
1

I know I should believe that, but I can't for some reason.
/r/seduction18/05/11 03:57 PM
1

But if you draw people in, you don't have to worry about seeming like you're barging into anything! That's the theory at least, probably not achievable for your average emotionally unintelligent individual.
/r/seduction18/05/11 01:20 AM
1

What if you don't think you're nice? That you're fundamentally a piece of shit for being interested in girls for less honorable reasons, and you're not really even sure why you're interested at all. That you avoid being nice to avoid being manipulative. Is there a name for that?
/r/seduction18/05/11 01:09 AM
3

Ass-lessons?
/r/seduction18/05/11 01:04 AM
1

The way I interpreted that book is that "once an AFC, always an AFC" and Neil Strauss was just reverting to the personality he had deep-down, in spite of all the training to the contrary. And while he may have purposely played up the melodrama, the very definition of being an AFC is having a propensity to play up melodrama and see oneself as a character in a romantic novel. So . . . I really don't know. Perhaps everyone is an AFC deep down inside, even TofuTofu.
/r/seduction12/05/11 06:54 PM
6

Create an excuse for her to go into your home Care to share any of your own?
/r/seduction11/05/11 04:05 PM
1

Thank you for putting it better than I ever could.
/r/seduction05/05/11 10:26 PM
1

Well, if you were rejected because you're obnoxious and make people unhappy, that's a fact. If you walk away and say "it's probably because those girls were lesbians," you're ignoring that you made them unhappy. So I guess what I'm getting at is, being delusional means not caring about hurting people. You're right about the positive mindset thing. It's very necessary and very hard to maintain (I'm actually worse than 25 year old virgin so I know). It makes me think of Schwarzenegger who managed …
/r/seduction01/05/11 12:22 AM
1

The other is something I hate to admit, but you need to be a little bit delusional This is the thing that bothers me most . . . all these happy/successful/"dominant" people are all delusional. I want to see the world as it is, not as I wish to see it, dammit. I don't want to be GW Bush or Michael Scott. I hate people like that.
/r/seduction30/04/11 05:34 PM
2

Exactly. Maybe the likes of us should start so we can get in the same situation as the OP.
/r/seduction28/04/11 08:56 PM
2

I had missed out on this whole story until now, and I have to say I find it utterly fascinating. I was way worse than this in college, if that's even conceivable to most people, but I see so many similarities. I think it takes some people more time than others to learn, that's all.
/r/seduction23/04/11 04:49 PM
3

I read his entire memoirs (this abridged version). They are thoroughly fascinating from a historical perspective, as well as very entertaining. If you're looking for a 1200-page book to read, you could do a lot worse than this. There are a few things that stood out to me about him. His feelings were facts to him. He did not see a separation between how he felt about something and how he should act -- he would do what his feelings told him. The way he describes it, it is as if his actions were a …
/r/seduction21/04/11 04:06 AM
6

The second derivative of the fading is small but the first derivative is large . . . or vice versa, not sure.
/r/seduction20/04/11 12:36 AM
1

I would be interested in seeing some more examples of daily tasks. Also, I found the golf guy's story very interesting.
/r/seduction16/04/11 04:17 PM
2

So you want the experience without the . . . um . . . experience? Good luck with that.
/r/seduction15/04/11 02:37 PM
3

What movie is that?
/r/seduction15/04/11 02:25 PM
5

Sounds like No True Scotsman
/r/seduction15/04/11 12:05 AM
1

So not the same . . .
/r/seduction15/04/11 12:01 AM
1

Maybe you should get her to try it, then. For science.
/r/seduction13/04/11 04:47 PM
1

You may be sensitive to the simple carbs...I get dozy on beer, for instance. Hard liquor and dry wine doesn't hit me the same way. Is that what that is? I never really understood it, but I have the same reaction. Also, hoppy beers have a greater effect. Welcome back, BTW!
/r/seduction09/04/11 12:13 AM
2

Hm, well she probably misunderstood, since there is no policy against buying girls on dates drinks. She sounds a bit entitled, though. If I got a response like that, I might just move on. But isn't giving girls awards on OkC kind of try-hard? Thoughts? I've never done it myself.
/r/seduction09/04/11 12:04 AM
10

So it's the 40 year old virgin after 4 years of marriage?
/r/seduction07/04/11 03:05 PM
9

I saw Pinker's lecture when he first came out with that book. Then, after the lecture, I was trying to decide where to eat so I was walking around outside. In the process, I saw two fairly attractive college girls talking to some guy with great interest. "That guy's a pimp," I thought. Then I walked closer and saw that was Steven Pinker. Then I went to the pizza place and had my sad pizza.
/r/seduction06/04/11 03:45 AM
26

What I really don't understand is why people (not just female ones) will often say something positive when they actually mean the opposite. For instance, this girl says she really had a good time. Why did she have to say that? Another example: I had an interview a few weeks ago where my interviewer said, unprompted, "I got a feel for how you think, and I think I would really enjoy working with you." Now, something told me when he said this that my chances were pretty much zero, but I don't know …
/r/seduction05/04/11 11:46 PM
3

Exactly, if it didn't happen in 28 years, it's probably not going to in the next 72 hours. Especially not with that text message.
/r/seduction04/04/11 01:03 PM
2

What you're describing is pretty much textbook AA.
/r/seduction02/04/11 05:13 PM
1

And? How does it work out?
/r/seduction31/03/11 02:53 PM
2

Hell, I'd even punch him. Twice.
/r/seduction31/03/11 04:19 AM
3

Thank you for your thoughtful response. I knew someone would clear this up. Yes, it's true that to be a writer one must be introspective, so that's another contradiction that always puzzled me about his character. But then, we also know that he had writer's block ever since they moved to LA, and wrote F&P while back in NJ for his father's funeral. So it's possible that we've just never seen the brilliant writer side of him (probably because it would make a very boring show). Anyway, you've given…
/r/seduction31/03/11 02:46 AM
0

You've got an amazing journey ahead of you. I just watched the last episode of the current season, and it's seriously the best 1/2 hour of television I've ever watched. Unfortunately he also runs a bit of "asshole game." His personality stays pretty consistent throughout the series. But why unfortunately? Can it be any other way?
/r/seduction30/03/11 06:06 PM
44

I find him endlessly perplexing as a character. I think about it every day, almost. I've known people like him in real life and they really do get laid when they act this way. I know ThrowawayPUA will say it's just fiction, but he really is an excellent portrayal of a real-life personality type. If these people stop and become like the rest of us, their results change to match as well. There are some consistent traits that make a person like this: Self-righteousness: Hank Moody often gives other…
/r/seduction30/03/11 05:14 PM
2

Dammit, now I'm hungry.
/r/seduction30/03/11 04:25 AM
2

Go on . . .
/r/seduction29/03/11 04:18 PM
3

You shouldn't feel like you need to live up to some standard when you go to a bar. You're there to relax, drink, talk to people, watch the game, etc. You don't have to justify yourself to anyone. It's not "sad," it's just a night that you spent doing what you wanted to do.
/r/seduction27/03/11 02:26 AM
4

just choding around looking desperate, unsure, and predatory Why, it's almost like you saw me at the club last night!
/r/seduction27/03/11 01:43 AM
7

My favorite one was the Bruce Lee story. Then I spent an hour reading about Bruce Lee's life on Wikipedia. Now it's 12:30 and I'm still eating breakfast. FML.
/r/seduction26/03/11 04:37 PM
10

From here: Many elephants like to repeatedly try to break their chains in an attempt to get free. Some elephants which fight their chains are harmless but a sizeable majority, not surprisingly, are aggressive and dangerous. Such attempts are an understandable try for freedom, but all mahouts will try to stop them because a loose elephant can cause huge damage to property, to crops, and to human beings. Beyond being a danger to human beings should they get free, elephants fighting chains also oft…
/r/seduction26/03/11 02:29 PM
1

He seems to have a monster ego, which is really the only prerequisite to this sort of thing.
/r/seduction11/03/11 05:57 PM
1

That sounds very encouraging. How did you get involved in sports and activities that you were interested in?
/r/seduction03/03/11 05:03 PM
2

Actually, my whole point in my now-deleted post was that if a guy had made the same post, he would be viewed as a douchebag. I think a guy would look much worse than a girl doing the same exact things. I get that this is a gender role issue, that I just have to accept it and understand that women get leeway because they "hold the keys." But at the same time, the whole point of being with other people is to get some level of understanding or compassion or camarderie, not merely to fuck with them …
/r/seduction28/02/11 04:50 AM
2

I've been going to clubs over the past few months and I can't stand the Top 40 shit that they play. Sometimes I think I will cut my ears off if I have to hear "Like a G6" one more time. I was in summer camp in 10th grade, they were having a dance night, and I was just staying on the side. I was so shy in those days, it wasn't a conscious choice. A girl I was friends with was trying to make me dance and I told her I didn't like the music they were playing. She said that that's because they're pla…
/r/seduction26/02/11 05:02 PM
1

Did you tell the "creep" at your party that he's awesome when you were kicking him out?
/r/seduction25/02/11 03:22 AM
3

Hey, don't judge the validity of the routine on my story, a person with normal social skills could have pulled that off.
/r/seduction25/02/11 01:54 AM
1

What could go wrong? Well, she could say I'm a creep, or a stalker, or a sexual predator, or a weirdo. And I would be obliged to believe her, at least to some extent, because of course I am not an impartial observer so I can't evaluate her claim. Every time somebody has called me a creep, I remember. And then I think about all the times I did creepy things but wasn't called a creep, and it makes me feel even worse. And so I would walk home again by myself thinking about how I have proven myself …
/r/seduction25/02/11 01:52 AM
1

What can someone who is the complete opposite of this do today to move in this direction?
/r/seduction19/02/11 05:14 PM
2

I think your reading is only making things worse for you because it's making you think that you have to do something special. All you have to do is live. Move forward every day. Join student organizations. Join clubs. Learn to play pool. Put on a play. There is so much for you to do, and your parents are paying so you can do most of it for free with lots of other people your age. Be proactive. Organize people to do things you want to do. Practice being a leader. Work on having the awesomest coll…
/r/seduction10/02/11 05:24 AM
1

Do you think that, knowing everything you know now, you could have just opened the 12-set from the beginning?
/r/seduction28/01/11 06:02 PM
1

I have the biggest problem with biographical interview type questions like "How old are you?" or "What do you do for work?" I feel like an asshole not answering directly, but if I say something stupid like "I'm 87" or "I'm an astronaut" they'll just keep asking until they get it out of me, so then if I continue resisting it feels weird, but if I give them the answer, I've lost. Basically, I don't want it to seem like I'm trying to hide the answer or that I'm ashamed of the answer, but I don't wa…
/r/seduction22/01/11 07:21 PM
2

You seem to be neglecting the value of clubs and classes, where you automatically have a shared interest with people and get to know each other without any pressure. Those people will also invite you to parties where you can meet more girls, etc. House parties are much better places for meeting people than buses and restaurants. Plenty of guys meet a girl in a student organization, marry her, and never have to do any cold approaching. Seddit may look down the nose at this sort of thing, but it's…
/r/seduction22/01/11 04:36 AM
2

You're choosing this identity that you're introverted, don't like approaching people, don't like parties, etc. This attitude will not serve you well. Especially in college, you have to use this opportunity to develop your social skills. After you graduate, it will be harder to make friends, many of the good girls will be taken, and not knowing how to be at ease with people becomes more and more of a liability (e.g. job interviews). You have to make this investment as soon as possible. I had a on…
/r/seduction22/01/11 04:11 AM
2

Oh, lord. So, I know this one girl who I have been sort of friends with, we went to college together and I was friends with her boyfriend. She always, every single time we hung out, brought up how I don't like people and I don't like her, wanting me to tell her that I like her. Which I wouldn't do because it would put me in a stupid position, so I would just be like, "why do you need me to like you?" or "why are you so insecure?" Then she and I had dinner once and she told me that I should like …
/r/seduction16/01/11 11:52 PM
1

I don't know how to fix your problem, but I do know that there are people who are on paper absolute losers and do nothing but play video games all day, yet think they're the absolute awesomest people in the universe. Actually, many "naturals" who are good with women are stupid and do nothing beneficial with their time. Then there are alcoholics who are good with women even though they just spend the whole day drinking. But as long as they don't link the problems in their life to their intrinsic …
/r/seduction14/01/11 06:33 PM
1

I once had this discussion on the topic . . .
/r/seduction14/01/11 06:25 PM
1

I fucking hate people who talk on the phone. This weekend I was at my parents', and my mother gets a phone call. There are three other guests there. She just picks up the phone, goes to the kitchen, and starts talking. She also eats and washes dishes while she talks. Then she comes back. It's the most revolting thing ever to me, but apparently for old Russian women it's just normal. I keep wanting to grab the phone and smash it against the wall, especially because of the imagined displeasure of …
/r/seduction14/01/11 06:20 PM
3

17/20. It's not just the eyes but also how the smile disappears. The fake smilers seem to immediately turn off the smile and go back to normal, while the genuine smilers seem to do a bit of a roll of the head and other signals that they are actually feeling something as the smile subsides.
/r/seduction13/01/11 07:12 PM
17

Hank Moody from Californication.
/r/seduction10/01/11 07:46 PM
1

Nobody calls YOU awkward, you gotta let her know she's wrong. How do I do that without appearing defensive?
/r/seduction10/01/11 03:37 PM
3

It seemed like she was expecting someone that'd she'd be attracted to and you just weren't it. Yeah, exactly. This happens over and over. In the entire conversation, it seemed like you weren't leading the interaction and that you weren't in a dominant state of mind. Sounds about right. I just don't know how to do it. People's words affect me far more than mine affect them. When it became awkward There's always that initial hump of awkwardness, though. But sometimes the awkwardness becomes forgot…
/r/seduction10/01/11 06:07 AM
2

Another way that real life is not like TV is that there's no sex in real life.
/r/seduction10/01/11 06:04 AM
-1

Oh yeah? Is there some way to learn to play the piano without spending a lot of time to do it? Please enlighten me.
/r/seduction09/01/11 11:42 PM
2

Boston.
/r/seduction09/01/11 11:39 PM
7

Sounds about right. I mean, he learned to play the piano perfectly, and he couldn't even take any notes from one day to the next. I guess after all that time, he became a good person out of sheer boredom, because there was nothing else left to try.
/r/seduction09/01/11 06:33 PM
0

I have encountered no evidence of this phenomenon. Everyone is always very proper.
/r/seduction09/01/11 06:18 PM
3

You've aged, though, and Bill Murray didn't.
/r/seduction09/01/11 06:13 PM
3

The whole point is you have to go through the previous 10 years or however long to get there, though. And, in real life, you age and possibly die or get thrown in jail in the process.
/r/seduction09/01/11 06:02 PM
1

On second thought . . . Ms. Yetta Farber wrote to remind Feynman that she had once dated him at Cornell. She also had a story to tell that made her laugh every time she saw Feynman's name in the papers. Immediately after their enjoyable date, word had gone out that there was a rapist, described as wearing "a brown or brown leather-like jacket," loose on the Cornell campus. "A-hah! I said-- I went out with this nice fellow and he wore a brown leather-like jacket! Maybe it was he. When you called …
/r/seduction09/01/11 04:20 PM
5

I felt like it was aimed towards people with Aspergers who have panic attacks even talking to people or complete introverts who can't imagine having a natural conversation. It wouldn't hurt to have more advice for people like that *cough*.
/r/seduction09/01/11 03:47 PM
-1

Where does one find these drunken bar sluts? I've checked, and they're not at bars as I expected them to be. Perhaps you mean "bar" as in American Bar Association?
/r/seduction09/01/11 03:45 PM
21

Well, no wonder, you have to assess a girl's place on the BV (Bullet Vulnerability) scale before shooting her in the face! From the sounds of it, she must have been a BV7 or lower. With these girls, bullet game doesn't work too well because they'll be too distracted or even alarmed by the blood filling their breathing passages to pay attention. He really needs to practice on a BV10, like the Terminatrix.
/r/seduction06/01/11 08:13 PM
1

Why is she taking you on as a responsibility? If anything, you're taking her on. She's not adopting you. Basically, anything anyone says about their "place in life" or their "outlook on relationships," etc. is horseshit. Nobody knows a goddamn thing about their place in life, and every relationship is different. So I think you were just LJBFed, that's all.
/r/seduction01/01/11 12:06 AM
1

I think the critical thing is that he believed in himself to a greater extent than a lot of people. I note this is Casanova's defining trait as well. And a lot of people that I find admirable. Interestingly, regarding his last wife, who started out as his maid: "Richard promptly invited her to come to America to work as his maid. She told him she would think about it. He met her again the next day and, fearing that a twenty-four-year-old woman would be put off by such an idea coming from a forty…
/r/seduction30/12/10 10:26 PM
1

He said at the end that he didn't like doing it that way, though. I don't think I would call him a PUA, he just tried it a few times like most people probably do. His letters to the women he was married to were all quite emotionally expressive. Some might consider that a bad thing, but I guess it worked out for him. He was very certain of his feelings, perhaps when one is certain, it's good to express them. I don't know how one gets to be that way.
/r/seduction30/12/10 05:20 PM
1

I'm a not-particularly-attractive male. I remember how when I was in high school, kids were constantly harassing me. It wasn't bullying, really. Just trying to tease me or to get my attention. And I found this really annoying. I didn't know what those people wanted from me (I still don't, for the most part). In retrospect, that was a gold mine for learning to interact with people that I mostly avoided. I didn't know 90% of the pop culture references and in-jokes, and I found it rather disturbing…
/r/seduction30/12/10 03:07 AM
1

I agree with this. I started learning guitar a few years ago and at this point, it's just too hard to find the kind of time I need to get really good, and nobody (least of all myself) wants to hear poorly played guitar. Just one more thing I wish I had done when I was a teenager and it was easier to pick things up and mistakes were more forgivable.
/r/seduction29/12/10 05:49 PM
7

I hope not, I'm 28 and if it's too late for you, it's probably too late for me. I can say that you can get comfortable with kissing people. I just had my first kiss with a non-internet woman last October (I feel like it counts more than OkCupid dates), and there have been ~6 not from the internet since then. Not impressive for most people but a huge difference in just the past year.
/r/seduction28/12/10 07:25 AM
1

You've undoubtedly read this. What makes you think it doesn't apply to guys?
/r/seduction26/12/10 05:51 PM
2

So have you achieved any results from reading these books? Are you mostly interested in seducing people for sexual purposes or things like missile launch codes and treasure maps as well? I'd be interested in reading FRs in either case.
/r/seduction26/12/10 05:30 PM
2

What was the "speak loudly and see who responds" opener? I.e. how did you bring up the accident without it seeming too negative?
/r/seduction24/12/10 07:26 PM
1

But once you reach that state, you are no longer a PUA, you are just Buddha.
/r/seduction24/12/10 03:10 PM
2

This sounds a bit too much like the Tom Cruise character in Magnolia . . .
/r/seduction23/12/10 02:31 AM
1

I don't agree that this is a man-woman thing. There's a large number of people of both sexes who think the world is against them. On the flip side, there are plenty of men on reddit who think every woman is out to get them put in prison for rape. It has absolutely nothing to do with actual causes -- it's peoples' internal state that they project back out onto the world. I think that in many of the stories in that thread, those women are just showing poor social skills, but instead of seeing the …
/r/seduction23/12/10 02:19 AM
1

I think it's because for people who are sufficiently hopeless, a switch needs to get flipped so they start acting like normal people, and apparently these "PUA" tactics flip that switch for some. But please share: How do you do sweet things for girls without turning them off? How do you get anywhere by just being polite and so forth? This could be valuable insight.
/r/seduction22/12/10 04:21 PM
1

So, why did you start doing this in the first place? Why not read elsewhere?
/r/seduction22/12/10 12:14 AM
2

because he doesn't have the apartment, the high paying job or college education Tell him about the sad story of huyvanbin who has all these things and still can't get anywhere . . .
/r/seduction21/12/10 07:26 PM
1

I would likewise be honored to meet the Sensei.
/r/seduction20/12/10 06:09 PM
3

You can at 13, though :)
/r/seduction20/12/10 04:00 PM
1

I read all the IAmAs about the guys who in their teens slept with women in their 30s, and think to myself, I will never get to sleep with an attractive woman 3x my age. That period of my life is just gone. Gone as surely as an amputated limb.
/r/seduction20/12/10 04:47 AM
1

I've read all the material and I'm just not comfortable enough/too nervous to really be able to do things right, so I figure doing something is better than doing nothing. But I think it's perfectly natural for women to be going to these clubs looking for guys who are big, I mean if they wanted to find a pasty little thing like myself they would probably stick with libraries and computer stores. To be clear, since it's loud and in many cases we're already in a closed position, a lot of the time t…
/r/seduction18/12/10 03:01 PM
1

I don't see people building comfort. I see people coming up to a girl and grinding/making out with her. It pretty much matches this comment except I can't seem to initiate it (though sometimes girls initiate it but I don't know why or which ones). I suspect it's because they're just looking for certain types of people and they take what they want. Also, maybe guys who are confident are able to just make people comfortable by virtue of their confidence and they don't have to do anything else. Als…
/r/seduction18/12/10 02:55 PM
1

Pick any woman from a crowd of your choosing and I’ll bet $10,000 that she will not add a single drop of knowledge or wisdom to mankind during her lifetime. Pick any guy from a crowd of your choosing and I'll bet you the same thing. I'm gonna guess with an attitude like that, this guy invites whatever treatment he's getting.
/r/seduction17/12/10 03:38 PM
2

I think you're the only one who has this right. And we're back to the age old problem that lack of happiness and confidence is a vicious circle.
/r/seduction15/12/10 11:34 PM
2

If I found myself interesting, I could probably convince others that I am, but I don't. I'm really just the same as everyone else.
/r/seduction15/12/10 11:30 PM
13

I still have a hard time understanding how to be truly interested in people. Most people seem ugly, stupid, mean, and boring to me. They have their dreams that are the same as everybody else's dreams. Jobs the same as everybody else's jobs, hobbies same as everybody else's. Everybody and their mother has the same fucking picture of them standing on top of Macchu Picchu/the Eiffel Tower/Times Square. How in the world can I get excited about this?
/r/seduction15/12/10 05:40 PM
3

I read this a few years ago. It's excellent and very entertaining (I actually read this somewhat abridged version). However, keep in mind that this guy frequently ended up in prison, got kicked out of pretty much every country in Europe, had sex with little girls, almost had sex with his 6-year-old daughter, almost had sex with his daughter who was of legal age at the time, kidnapped a married couple with his band and stranded the man on an island, then took the wife and gangbanged her, and othe…
/r/seduction15/12/10 04:31 PM
8

See, you've already lost. You're just doing exactly what they're complaining about.
/r/seduction15/12/10 04:18 PM
1

Reading this Aaron Sleazy fellow tells me what I have intuitively always known -- that some guys are just cooler and better at getting girls than others, and that if you're not able to get laid at all, then there's something seriously wrong with you, more than some tips or techniques can fix. The trouble is, nobody knows how to help people with serious psychological issues. The mental health industry is, in my opinion, as much of a sham as the seduction community. So while I approve of his desir…
/r/seduction13/12/10 07:51 AM
0

I would never call a girl a slut, a whore, a ****, a ****, or any of the other words that come to mind. Then again, I'm not like him, and kind of proud of it (though I'm not proud of where it leaves me). But I'm just imagining this the other way around. Say a guy pours water on a girl, and she calls him a creep. Now the guy is sitting on the couch crying with his closest guy friends hugging him and nuzzling with him trying to make him all better. Now, the girl in question comes around: "I apolog…
/r/seduction13/12/10 04:13 AM
2

Well, the guy's calling the girl a slut and a whore, and she's apologizing to him! I want to know how many people in /r/seduction could pull that off.
/r/seduction13/12/10 01:04 AM
6

Repeat the name to yourself, and say it back to the person. Also, try to associate the name with something. Put your hand on a person's shoulder to get their attention if you're behind them, I think that's the best way.
/r/seduction12/12/10 10:53 PM
0

See, the only reason his insults work is because he is delivering them confidently. If I called a girl a slut, she would probably just tell me I'm creepy and make me cry.
/r/seduction12/12/10 10:18 PM
2

I thought it was funny how the girl kept backing away from him. Not exactly the best endorsement of his technique.
/r/seduction12/12/10 06:37 PM
1

It is impossible to describe the roar of the lion.
/r/seduction11/12/10 09:05 PM
0

Who is RSD? Any links?
/r/seduction10/12/10 03:42 PM
1

It's interesting that a lot of his tips contradict what other people say. For instance, he recommends ignoring the friends in a group and going straight for the target. Also, he recommends not asking questions but instead making statements, which seems to contradict what other people say about learning to listen, asking questions, and finding the other person interesting.
/r/seduction10/12/10 02:48 AM
3

I guess if you play it up that much, then you actually have to deliver when they do come. What if you invite them to a concert and it turns out to suck? This is what I've always been unsure about.
/r/seduction10/12/10 02:44 AM
2

I used to feel the way you do about going in to bars. After a few years of going by myself, I feel pretty comfortable showing up anywhere and just chilling by myself. So at least that part gets easier.
/r/seduction05/12/10 11:53 PM
1

I remember when I was on the board of my college literary magazine, we got a submission from a guy about a planet inhabited by wolfmen, and women would go there on the pretense of studying the indigenous flora, but actually they were going to get gang-raped by the wolfmen. All the girls in the room said how incredibly perceptive this story was. I wish I had a link, but it seems it's not around anymore. Also, relevant. BTW, it was a great place for meeting girls (and people in general). Sedditors…
/r/seduction04/12/10 06:29 PM
2

No, I meant when you were waiting for her and she didn't show up. I'm a noob, but I read a piece of advice early on that if someone is more than 15 minutes late you should just figure they're not going to show up. I've found that helps me not get too down about no-shows.
/r/seduction04/12/10 01:00 AM
2

Waiting for an hour sounds excessive.
/r/seduction03/12/10 04:11 PM
1

Thanks for the encouragement. I listened to the Wygant audio files that were posted here a while back, it was one of my biggest inspirations to push myself harder on this.
/r/seduction29/11/10 02:34 AM
7

I think this is a general problem with a lot of PUA advice. It focuses on the "delta", like a software patch, rather than the end result. The way beginners (including myself) generally misinterpret PUA advice is that without context, the advice seems absolute. This is also probably why some people think PUA is creepy. We just don't know all the subtleties, so we just reach straight for the exaggerated caricature. But when I watch videos of Mystery, the application of these concepts is actually i…
/r/seduction24/11/10 11:24 PM
1

So, do you ever friend people? How do people (outside of college/work) end up becoming friends on facebook? I see periodically people becoming facebook friends and I always wonder how that happened. I feel weird friending someone just because I know their name and see them every so often. I have < 200 friends and while I don't care about it in itself, it just reminds me how I'm less socially successful.
/r/seduction23/11/10 12:37 AM
30

The second girl I met from OkCupid, back in 2006, was even stranger. We agreed to meet at some place, I don't remember. I ride my bike over there and wait for a while. I may have tried to call her to see where she was. After about 15 minutes, she calls me to tells me that she left and got on the subway, but to meet her at a stop down the line. So I get on my bike and I'm presumably chasing this subway train. She called me several times while I was riding. Eventually I caught up with her at a sto…
/r/seduction20/11/10 05:47 PM
1

Well, it's not his actions, per se, it's something about him. I don't quite know what it is. As for his behavior, I would say I find it a bit sleazy. I'm not sure if I would want to appear that way. The whole sitting in a girl's lap singing to her . . . kind of makes me queasy. But maybe I'm just not sufficiently comfortable with sexuality in general.
/r/seduction20/11/10 03:58 PM
2

I have the same problem. Wish I knew what to do about it. If someone's talking to me about banal shit, I can sometimes banter decently well, but then I always have a dirty feeling afterward like I stayed too much on the surface. I guess the trick is not to expect every conversation to lead to some grand revelation.
/r/seduction19/11/10 02:57 AM
1

I still have huge problems with this, but one thing that helped me is to tell myself, I'm gonna go out and just enjoy being there (usually this means drinking) but, I have to talk to at least one person. The "talk to everyone around you" thing sort of scares me because as soon as I haven't talked to the first person that caught my eye, I feel like I've failed. So, just one person. It doesn't matter what I say, or how they respond. Just one person. Of course, once you talk to that one person, the…
/r/seduction19/11/10 02:52 AM
0

To me he just seems like a coarse, douchey asshole. I know douchey assholes get laid, but it's something that has to come from within. If I were in a room with this guy, I'd be scared he'll beat the shit out of me just because I'm smaller than him.
/r/seduction19/11/10 02:45 AM
1

I'm not sure if Don Draper is really a great example to learn from, even if he existed. He seems to do a lot of AFC things, we just don't see them as such because he's Don Draper.
/r/seduction17/11/10 06:03 AM
2

So this is the second Mystery clip I've seen. The thing that stands out is that he looks like he's acting pretty much like a normal guy, except that for some reason, people seem to want to continue talking to him. I recognize many of the techniques he's using from reading The Game and so on, but they seem really transparent and it's hard to imagine that they would flip a switch in anybody's head. I guess maybe the trick is just to be able to continue acting like a normal guy while approaching ho…
/r/seduction17/11/10 05:00 AM
2

I really hope the OP tries this and reports on his findings.
/r/seduction15/11/10 06:12 PM
1

There's an extra dimension to Russian (or former soviet union generally) girls that I don't see in Western ones. They play this game of, "Oh, you're not treating me well enough, you're not a gentleman, now buy me dessert." Or, for instance, if I say something rude or inappropriate, a Western girl might laugh, ignore it, or walk away, but a Russian girl will get indignant and be like, "How dare you talk this way to me." Maybe I am biased because of my experience with my mother, but I find such be…
/r/seduction12/11/10 06:56 PM
1

I also wish we could dispense with the whole talking thing. But I think the idea of PUA is not that you just talk about your uncle and stuff, you're actually trying to build attraction through the conversation, so you're adding to the experience, not just going through the motions. Which actually seems really intimidating to me.
/r/seduction08/11/10 12:47 AM
1

In case it's not clear, I'm trying to expand my comfort zone gradually. don't abandon the conversation until they're giving you clear signals that they don't want to talk to you any more. I'm not sure if your advice is grounded in reality. If someone's not visibly interested in what I'm saying, then I'm just being a dick by continuing to talk to them. Also, there isn't always something left to say. Also, it's a bar, I think it would be inappropriate to always expect prolonged conversations. You …
/r/seduction07/11/10 10:16 PM
1

You know, superbowl, world cup, world series, etc. Seasonal events that are OK to talk about at a bar. They're not "real" to me the way cranberries are. What's prettier? This or This. I'm not really complaining. I know that's just the way it is. But it's ironic. I'm sure there's a way to spin the impending doom of our species into a reproductive imperative. I'll leave that one to the experts, though.
/r/seduction07/11/10 08:01 PM
1

I'm the same way. That's part of the reason why this is so hard for me. It's also part of why I posted this FR, because I think a lot of people can relate. But, people are telling me it's not hopeless, so it can't be hopeless for you either :)
/r/seduction07/11/10 07:32 PM
2

Dude. Trolls. Feeding. No.
/r/seduction07/11/10 04:05 PM
3

It's sad that the various bowls and cups being in season are proper bar subjects, but the events that kept our species alive for the past few thousand years, nobody gives a fuck about. Probably has something to do with why our species is doomed.
/r/seduction07/11/10 03:51 PM
2

What you think is a product of racism is actually a reaction to the people themselves. Some Indian guys do just fine, but just like many immigrants, they never learned the alpha thing. The whole point of PUAdom is to overcome these "less harmful" and "positive" stereotypes that apply just as much to white nerds as they do to people who are visually distinct in other ways. What race are you, by the way?
/r/seduction07/11/10 03:23 PM
2

I usually think I'm a lost case. I mean, I know it's not looking good for me and it never did. I was the kid who sat by himself at recess and thought about how to build the Enterprise. There's no question I'm profoundly lacking in some ways.
/r/seduction07/11/10 03:13 PM
2

Which part?
/r/seduction07/11/10 03:11 PM
2

You could have followed up with, "So it's like hand made, then. That's awesome. My ex-girlfriend used to knit Yeah, those stories came to mind a few minutes after the conversation ended. When I'm talking to people like that I'm usually so busy trying to look normal and worrying what they're thinking of me that I can't think of the next thing to say. On rare occasions that fades away. You missed that cue, but that's OK. Well, I didn't so much miss it as not know what to do. Also, maybe she was ju…
/r/seduction07/11/10 03:09 PM
2

Touching can be a last-ditch move to signal or test attraction when chances are the woman is not interested and is already moving away. That's probably what you're seeing. I think kino as advocated here is actually the opposite. Rather than being a request to move into a sexual context the way putting your arm around someone might be, it's actually a way of expanding the non-sexual context into the realm of physical contact, so that then the jump to a sexual context is more natural. That's the t…
/r/seduction07/11/10 01:22 AM
2

Surely, there are hundreds of millions of guys (more if you go back in history) who don't go into PUA and are not "naturals" in the PUA sense, who just naturally entered onto this "provider" path and succeeded at it. What about them?
/r/seduction05/11/10 02:50 PM
2

He's performing, even if this is not staged. It's easily possible to do this, and still not be able to talk to a girl.
/r/seduction04/11/10 04:17 AM
1

Your suspicions are correct. A therapist is not a magic pony. For some people, the authority of a therapist or the commitment of paying money for the service helps to motivate them to change. But in general, a therapist will not tell you anything you won't read here or in many self-help books. A therapist will insist on the same things that people are telling you here, but you are still at liberty not to listen to him. One important aspect of confidence is relying on yourself. If you want the th…
/r/seduction03/11/10 04:59 AM
9

Four hundred years from now, mothers will be telling their kids to keep their bedroom snatchworthy if they want their plasma desert after their space dinner.
/r/seduction01/11/10 04:24 PM
1

I would argue that talking to girls when you don't know how and getting numbers is unrealistic. I have been trying and the only way I can even have a conversation is if I forget the whole thing with getting a number, as that creates too much pressure. I think you're approaching this from the perspective of, "if you talk to people, things will naturally happen," because that's how it is for someone who is already comfortable. But for someone who isn't, talking to people doesn't immediately lead t…
/r/seduction31/10/10 07:49 PM
1

OK but . . . obviously people who sit around online talking about how to pick up girls aren't going to be doing it. What did you expect? It's like going to the local physical therapy clinic to recruit for your commando unit. As for your advice . . . it's like telling fat people to just stop eating. I'm sure it's satisfying to you, but all of our behavior is based on instinct, and when someone's instincts have led them astray year after year, you can't expect a few well-placed profanities to make…
/r/seduction31/10/10 07:42 PM
1

There are some things that I keep asking people about all this, and nobody has given me a satisfactory answer: 1) I'm not really down about my physical attractiveness per se (i.e. my face). But, I am relatively short (5'7) and skinny. I just don't get why a girl would want me when someone bigger is standing right next to me (and would gladly beat me up if it made her feel better). And, while I know I could get bigger muscles, I don't think that could fix anything because (a) I see plenty of thos…
/r/seduction18/10/10 05:36 PM
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I think you've been misinformed. Even if I were depressed (and nobody thinks I have true clinical depression), there is no magic cure for it. Medications work on some people, but they never worked on me (I haven't tried the nastier ones with pages of side-effects, though). Generally, the advice for depressed people is a lot like the advice for AFCs: do more exercise, and try to recalibrate your thinking to feel better about yourself (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy). Though there was a recent study…
/r/seduction17/10/10 02:33 PM
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Don't even make an effort to flirt with them. Just get used to being around women. Make friends with them. Don't fall in love with them or put them on a pedestal. Just get used to them existing. Easy for you to say. When I'm around women in real life, all I see is the happy, tall, charming, or merely normal people and how they effortlessly interact with women while when I try, it always seems like I'm only pretending. Talking to someone I'm attracted to always feels like a hail mary pass, and I …
/r/seduction17/10/10 01:40 AM
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Well, there has been a theme lately on reddit that if you want to have sex with someone, just ask. Ordinarily I would consider this a bad idea, but I thought I would try it. With strangers on the internet, since trying it on coworkers would get me in trouble, and I don't have any other women to try it on. Also, while I agree that directly referring to "hot sex" in someone's profile is a stupid idea, I've never been totally comfortable with ignoring it either. I remember that in The Game, Neil re…
/r/seduction16/10/10 11:55 PM
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What, you're not a virgin? Of course I am. I might not be able to take no for an answer, but I can't take yes for an answer either.
/r/seduction16/10/10 10:54 PM
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Here's another, with a 34 year old who claims to be interested in "hot sex": (11:53:02 pm)Me:mm I would really like hot sex too (11:56:01 pm)Her:well i see you have a cat (11:56:11 pm)Me:I do (11:57:09 pm)Me:is that likely to help? (12:00:42 am)Me:do you like cats? (12:08:35 am)Me:are you offended or something? I didn't mean to be offensive, I just was thinking maybe we were both looking for the same thing (12:26:51 am)Her:im not offended...however i do not have the 1st impression that apparentl…
/r/seduction16/10/10 07:43 PM
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I appreciate your reply. I guess my thinking is, since I actually am a "lonely sadsack with nothing better to do," I should at least "own it" and unashamedly be a lonely sadsack. Unfortunately, most girls my age on OKCupid don't reply to me at all. With the ones who do, the conversation usually starts inane and trails off into nothing. Here's an example (this is a better conversation than average): (11:24:00 pm)Me:hi (11:24:11 pm)Her:hi (11:24:21 pm)Me:how are you tonight? (11:25:14 pm)Her:good!…
/r/seduction16/10/10 07:41 PM
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Sounds like you're an obnoxious prick who goes around violating people's personal space and then blaming them for being annoyed.
/r/seduction15/10/10 03:31 PM
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The biggest thing is to realize that if you're rejected, it's NOT because there is something wrong with you . . . more likely than not, you didn't successfully communicate how lucky they would be to date you. See, there is something wrong with me. I can't successfully communicate. And with every additional rejection it becomes more clear that I will never be able to.
/r/seduction12/10/10 04:15 AM
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Story of my life. Minus the blowjob.
/r/seduction12/10/10 03:45 AM
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I edited to clarify.
/r/seduction12/10/10 02:25 AM
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I disagree with you on that. To give an example, in reading Anthony Kiedis' "auto"biography, there were many instances of rather pathetic behavior with girlfriends even after he had gotten legendary amounts of tail.
/r/seduction08/10/10 03:42 AM
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Can you share some statistics as to your success rate? I have tried very hard on okcupid over the past four years, even obsessively. I have IMed and messaged probably thousands of girls, I've met a few dozen. But it seems like even online, for the most part, I just can't form a connection. The less attractive ones meet me sometimes but it usually doesn't go too well. The attractive ones usually get bored with me during the first IM exchange. It seems like even with some level of social anxiety/i…
/r/seduction15/07/10 02:19 AM
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