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Inner Game iambabyshark/r/seduction06/11/21 03:52 PM
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Outer Game iambabyshark/r/seduction08/11/21 02:47 PM
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Pathetic. It's basically just "oh woe is me my wrists are thin and my cheeks aren't hollow and I don't have hunter eyes therefore I can never get a woman". Incels don't see redpill as a way to understand women, they see it as a reason for why they can't get laid. Healthy redpillers see hypergamy and the concept of status as things to gain and employ to get women, whereas incels see it as an insurmountable wall
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:28 PM
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Coaches are garbage. People seem to think they can "buy" their way into seduction, but frankly that's wrong. It's like if a big guy tried to teach you how to wrestle. He'd advice you to use his tsctics; his weight, his build, and so on. But that won't work for you. Rather you should learn the fundamentals, things that work for nearly everyone, then refne those to see what works for you and what doesn't
/r/seduction21/08/22 08:36 PM
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Flirt? No such thing. The moment you intentionally put yourself in the "flirting" position is when you out yourself as the buyer. Be aloof, be fun, and if you feel like you're running out of steam, excuse yourself. Think of fun conversations you can lead people down. Take notes on what works and what doesn't. Emotional highpoints are key, for example, what's their favorite memory growing up? What was their craziest night like? What's on their bucket list? Things such as this are key to seduction…
/r/seduction21/08/22 08:26 PM
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don't eat something but if you have to get coffee In my experience ice cream / froyo works good. It's in a public space so there's no danger, not formal so there's no stress, and it finishes quickly so you can talk after. It also stands out since most dudes immediately go for coffee while you're being fun and spontanous, besides, who doesn't like ice cream?
/r/seduction11/02/22 08:15 PM
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Really I was thinking you were in some graphic tee from highschool sporting some nerd glasses with an overgrown haircut, and that's what led them to say that. If you really were decently dressed then it was just a shittest (amplifying and saying you lived in a cardboard box was great by the way). As for the chick that told you she wasn't gonna call you, it was likely a way to save face (remember, she just met you and she's in front of her friends. She'd look like a slut if she was immediately in…
/r/seduction09/02/22 06:35 PM
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I assume she found your boring. Lookswise, you were her type. So she became interested in what your personality was like. You did good being cocky and assuming she was into you. I'm a bit curious as to what your conversation looked like, if I knew that I could give better insight
/r/seduction08/02/22 11:20 PM
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A lot of dudes prefer if a girl initiates because they fear rejection and they're afraid of making you uncomfortable. Talk to him for a bit and say something like "I love talking to you, we should hang out sometime". That's all you gotta do, if he's worth his salt he'll take the hint and invite you out for coffee or something. As for the confidence thing, just focus on trying harder with eye contact and talking. You'll slowly break out of your shyness and gain confidence in yourself
/r/seduction08/02/22 11:17 PM
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Girls just randomly say you probably live with your parents, or flat out tell you they aren't interested? For once I'm thinking it's looks here, maybe body language
/r/seduction08/02/22 09:50 PM
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Ghost. If she tries to make smalltalk, go with it. Next week ask her out again somewhere else. If she says no again completely drop her. My rule of thumb is: Strike 1, she says no to my date. Strike 2, she doesn't immediately provide another time. Strike 3, I ask again later and she still says no. In which case I ghost
/r/seduction03/02/22 08:28 PM
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Go for it. The short term relationship thing and the friend talk are looking more and more like tests. Or perhaps they weren't, and by standing your ground you managed to attract her (most guys would take a "friendship" and wait for their "chance"). As for your response, something like "Alright, but you better not try anything after". And during the date keep it up with stuff like that, that she's just trying to seduce you. Do it in a joking manner, focus on making her laugh and having fun the w…
/r/seduction03/02/22 07:56 AM
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Randomly take her out somewhere nice. Fully plan the entire date from start to finish. You should know her schedule, so tell her about it the day before. Be sure to wait a couple weeks before attempting this or it'll look like you're just trying to "fix" your relationship. After, give her the best sex you've had. I'd post on that but I'm 90% sure reddit would ban me
/r/seduction03/02/22 07:52 AM
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Go for it. It's risky so it shows confidence. If they bring it up when you meet them, something like "Texting her? We've been having daily hour-long calls!". Obviously they know that's not true, but it shows confidence. You're not trying to hide it, instead you're making it even bigger, showing it off even. And besides, they'll even laugh over it
/r/seduction03/02/22 07:49 AM
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I guess not much but it's entirely optional to have a girlfriend. If you get lucky you can find a girl that can actually cook
/r/seduction02/02/22 10:48 PM
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To sum it up: Someone interesting. They don't want a man who works his 9-5 then plays videogames the rest of the night every single day. They want someone exciting, someone who can make them laugh and show them a good time. A man who's spontaneous, who'll randomly take her out someplace nice. Someone who can challenge her and bust her balls. Think about it: Most guys are simple. They go up to her, ask her the same questions she's heard hundreds of times, and do everything they can to try to make…
/r/seduction02/02/22 07:47 PM
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The other night I went out to the bar and I saw this nerdy looking guy. He wore glasses, was kinda pudgy, wore some random graphic tee, etc. I dismissed him fairly quick, but then I saw him approach a girl from the side and started running game and kino on her. After a minute of watching I stopped seeing him as a nerd and instead saw him as confident, cool even (I suspect he was a pua). Even for me, a man, his actions changed my view of him, even if I initially dismissed him. For women it's like…
/r/seduction01/02/22 12:09 AM
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How did you handle it when she said that? Typically that sort of line is a way to reject you without being mean. Either that or it was a nuclear shit test where the only way to pass is to seem unfazed and ghost
/r/seduction01/02/22 12:01 AM
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Nearly every woman in a relationship has told me they weren't initially attracted to their partners. Meaning something they did/said is what made them attracted to them, not their looks. Although this post has some merit since you can have the best "game" in the world but if you're a gross neckbeard in a videogame tee you aren't getting anything
/r/seduction31/01/22 06:58 PM
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I very rarely cold approach (talk to a stranger completely randomly) but if a girl's near me and keeps glancing at me I'll open. A girl was in line ordering a drink, she was glancing at me and I noticed she was getting the same thing I was. I said "Finally, someone with some taste around here" and held up my drink. She laughed, I smiled and joked that she was just trying to impress me by ordering it. She laughed again and denied it. While her drink was being made she asked me if I was a regular …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 04:19 AM
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Cheating is an instant disqualifier. Don't care if she was drunk or regretted it except for if she didn't have a say in it. And in that case I will settle for nothing less than the guy getting charged with the full extent of the law. Reason should be self-explanatory but letting her get away with it will pretty much guarantee it'll happen again anyway. I also don't want someone obsessive to the point where they stalk me, I had one girl contact ALL my exes despite me making it clear that was a bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 04:07 AM
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It's likely his online game. What does his instagram and snapchat content look like? Is he taking shots of him at parties with friends? He has social calibration. Is he going to new places all the time? He leads an atractive lifestyle. Is he not afraid to post selfies? He's confident in his appearance. Does he post pictures pf him on dates? He's pre-selected by women. Essentially, he's demonstrating his value via his socials
/r/seduction23/12/21 07:32 PM
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I've had fun point-blank saying I'm a decade older than I am. I deliver it so seriously they actually believe it for a second before we laugh about it and I give my real age
/r/seduction20/12/21 09:23 AM
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You've had oneitis for three years? I didn't think that was possible unless you were seeing her regularly. If you aren't and you're somehow filling that void by checking her socials daily you have to stop now. Properly learn game, go to bars, meet new people, and kick off a new social life. As soon as you get new women in your life you'll forget all about her
/r/seduction20/12/21 09:20 AM
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In terms of strictly game (in no particular order): Approach anxiety, your first approach will be your hardest, but it gets easier every time Knowing your value and how to present it Knowing how to respond when someone points out something you're insecure about (basically prepare a response in advance) Being able to hold a conversation that keeps people interested Overcoming your "default" body language. Avoiding things such as leaning in when you speak, crossing your arms, fidgeting, talking to…
/r/seduction20/12/21 09:15 AM
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Online dating
/r/seduction18/12/21 07:36 AM
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Hit up the next girl and forget about her
/r/seduction02/12/21 05:04 AM
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Here's a couple I got: Regular contact with interested men despite being with you (orbiters). If a girl isn't 100% committed to you, she's not worth your time. Don't be a control freak about it but most guys are only friends with chicks in hopes she'll be single sometime and he'll get his "chance". Regular fights, be it over differences in opinion or over habits the other person does. It's fine to have differing opinions on things, but it's not fine if the person you're dating absolutely refuses…
/r/seduction02/12/21 05:04 AM
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Ed Sheeran. Physically attractive? Blow all the women that claim he's hot out of your head. Objectively speaking. He wears glasses, is chunky, his hairs a mess, and I don't even think you can call the thing on his face a beard. Now remove all the photoshop. Is that an objectively attractive man? Is that a model? Then why the hell are all these chicks gushing over him? Status. He has status. Status = attraction. If he wasn't famous and just went to a bar, chicks wouldn't flock to him. But because…
/r/seduction29/11/21 05:14 AM
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For your first example, I'd handle it by complying in a joking manner, like stressing her name when you call it the first few times. Though you really are overthinking things. You're acting like you'll wake up the next morning as her slave after complying once. Have boundaries. Things you absolutely will not tolerate. That's your frame. If things start snowballing and those things become challenged, do not falter. Avoid thinking in extremes too. There's more options that nice guy and bad boy. A …
/r/seduction29/11/21 05:04 AM
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They're good to have, but not a deal breaker. That said you could have the absolute best game in the world and none of it will matter if you're obese and reek. I downplay them so men can be more confident in themselves, too many men think they're screwed because they're not tall or have unfortunate facial features. I do still advocate for looks, while learning game a man should be actively lifting and losing weight, dressing properly, and practicing good hygene. I just don't want people to put o…
/r/seduction28/11/21 07:41 PM
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You got into a relationship before having sex? If you're young disregard that. Anyway, just take her out on dates. Try to touch her more when you do (handholding, brushing something off her shoulder, playing with her hair, etc). Sex is just the final form of touch, you have to build up to it. If she's fine with you touching her hair, she's fine with you kissing her. If she agreed to be your girlfriend, she's open to pursuing a sexual relationship with you. Hell, she expects it. The longer you ho…
/r/seduction28/11/21 02:40 PM
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Looks aren't important. They help you get your foot in the door occasionally, but women don't really care about them. The mistake a lot of people make is they assume women have the same desires as men. They think if they hit the gym enough a naked lady will fall into their lap. That's wrong, for us men 80% of what we want is in appearance, the other 20% being what she brings to the table. For women, it's the opposite. A man's "boobs" aren't his muscles, it's his value. When you first start talki…
/r/seduction28/11/21 02:36 PM
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You're fine, don't stress "wasting" college. Men have the most value in their 30s and most people here don't even go to college. Besides, a college grad has more value than a student. As for your last relationship, think of it as a learning experience. For what you should do now: learn game. Go to bars, volunteer, events, whatever you can, and practice. Hang out with college friends, don't let those relationships die. Take up hobbies you enjoy, meet people there. Hit the gym (if you have the mon…
/r/seduction28/11/21 02:28 PM
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A year is a pretty big deal for a relationship so I'd end it before then. To be blunt, if you can't see a legitimate future with a girl after three months of dating you should end it
/r/seduction27/11/21 08:56 PM
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Hoenstly, I wouldn't try to get with service workers. But your best bet would be to become a regular there to the point where she recognises you, come during the slow hours, and be cocky funny when she talks to you. If you manage to have a long conversation with her proceed with pickup as normal
/r/seduction27/11/21 08:50 PM
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Firstly, you're texting too much. Texting is a tool to get girls on dates, if she can get your comfort over text then there's less a desire from her to see you in-person to get that. Secondly, you're neglecting touch. While you on dates you should be touching her, for example, holding her hand to lead her to your table, playfully punching her arm, touching her knee to get her attention, etc. THEN you can lead into kissing, remember, kissing is just another form of touch. The more you hold off on…
/r/seduction26/11/21 10:50 AM
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She may, or she may have just been craving someone to talk to. Did she play with her hair while talking to you? Long eye contact? Asking you a bunch about your life? Try to touch you? If a girl does these things she is attracted to you, and as a man it's up to you to get her number in response. Something like "I actually really enjoyed talking to you, I wouldn't mind continuing this conversation sometime" may have been able to net you her number right then and there
/r/seduction24/11/21 02:12 AM
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Don't fuck girls while they're drunk. As for your backrubbing, if she was against it she'd say something or you'd be able to sense her uncomfort. I rarely do backrubs, even then only privately. If you can get onto the topic of it and offer, you should be fine doing it. You will do well to watch some youtube videos on it, though usually this is fairly late game (as a lead up to sex usually). And most of all, don't do any sexual touching in public (inner thigh, breasts, etc) since that can be unco…
/r/seduction24/11/21 02:08 AM
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No. Women don't want someone who'll agree with them on anything, much less a man who'd compromise on himself to please her. Be genuine in your opinions even if they conflict to hers and she'll respect you
/r/seduction24/11/21 02:03 AM
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This. Too many people in the community undersell how important having a social circle is. Having female friends is especially useful because you'll have a good shot at hooking up with her friend
/r/seduction24/11/21 12:20 AM
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Same as you do irl, ask them stuff about their lives and share a bit about yourself. You should also be aware of threading. Say you ask them where they grew up. They say they went to the beach a lot with their friends. You now have multiple "threads" to continue to use, such as who these friends were, what their favorite part about the beach was, if they still do go to the beach, etc etc. Say you're talking about swimming and it starts to get boring. Cut that thread and move onto another. With t…
/r/seduction22/11/21 08:01 PM
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What are you insecure about? Your appearance?
/r/seduction22/11/21 07:53 PM
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Just do it. Can you remember the first thing a friend of yours said to you when you met? Exactly. It's not important, what is important is that you have someone new in your life. I'll give you a scenario. You're at a bar when you notice a girl staring at you. When girls do this (especially if they keep doing it) they want you to approach. Take confidence in that. As soon as she does that, walk over. Avoid doing it head-on or being confrontational, just get close enough so she can hear you. Posit…
/r/seduction21/11/21 10:10 PM
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When sending a message, ask yourself "how could she respond to this?". While she could carry it from a simple hey, she has nothing to go on and thus must introduce a new topic or leave you on read. Something like "hey, the craziest thing happened today" should work, then just run with that. If it dries up as her about her day then bring up your date idea
/r/seduction21/11/21 04:15 AM
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She was testing you. When a girl stops giving a fuck while texting you should do the same, and you did. By showing that you were willing to drop her, you showed that she isn't your only option, that you can afford to lose her. Don't text back immediately, but give it a few hours. Say hey back, make some BS smalltalk, then tell her you're headed out to X tomorrow and invite her along
/r/seduction21/11/21 03:02 AM
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Yes she's attracted to you. And yes it's a "date" but then again every time you hang out with a woman is a date, whether either of you want to accept it or not. Your next move: Keep taking her places. Say you liked spending time with her out of class. Learn more about her, let her learn more about you. Have fun together. Build some touch between you two, like hugs and the like. After a few dates invite her to your place for a movie and see where the night takes you. Don't try to make her your "g…
/r/seduction21/11/21 12:06 AM
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I disagree. What do rappers and james bond have in common? Status. James Bond saves the world and rappers release their own music. I've noticed this trend too in "gen z" women, that being their attraction for the rapper type of guys. However, this is simply because that's the "alpha" they're exposed to. If Bond was everywhere again they'd be posting about how hot the actor is. See 50 shades of grey or the guys from the twilight movies. I theorize that the reason you see this trend in the women y…
/r/seduction21/11/21 12:03 AM
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I dated a girl that was liberal but not quite "PC". But because I was honest early on in my views all our fights were just over what a bunch of old guys were fighting about. Real shame because I actually liked her but couldn't imagine putting up with that forever. No idea how feasible it would be to pretend to be apolitical forever but I wish I had sometimes
/r/seduction19/11/21 04:57 AM
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That's why I'm a major advocate of people on here fixing themselves and making male friends first. Even if you do net a lady she'll get leave pretty quick once she sees you have no hobbies or social life aside from her
/r/seduction18/11/21 10:26 PM
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Yes, it shows you're well connected and have social status. Think of the inverse: is being a total loner remotely attractive?
/r/seduction18/11/21 07:34 PM
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This and with politics too. These are dangerous topics to pursue. If she's a theist and you're not, bringing that up that early could be a deal breaker, rather than later in the relationship when you have enough time together to see past that. These are "graveyard conversations", that you really can't win with so avoid them at all costs
/r/seduction18/11/21 05:34 PM
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Hitting up her instagram without her giving it to you comes off as needy and creepy, hence the block. Rather you should have secured attraction while she was talking to you and then gotten her number. Think of this as a learning experience; the second you start talking to a girl, immediately start setting yourself apart and showing her your best qualities. You never know if you'll get the chance again
/r/seduction17/11/21 05:50 AM
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The best way to combat oneitis is to pursue other women. Oneitis is just when a man convinces himself that she's different, that she's the one person that can make him feel good. Hanging out with other women will make you see that maybe she wasn't so perfect, and they can make you feel good too. Another thing I've heard of being done in the past is to write down all the negative qualities of your oneitis and read them over when you think of her. Your goal is to crack your perception of her as be…
/r/seduction16/11/21 07:13 PM
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That's mostly just a mindset. Of course you're going there to meet new people, but if you make it your sole mission you won't have fun with it I started off just imitating what people around me were doing, but there's plenty of youtube videos on basic moves. I mostly just stick to bobbing my knees and swinging my arms/torso to the beat. As I get more drunk I start making shit up and people think I can actually dance I did this the other night pretty easy. I was drunk so I was up on a stage just …
/r/seduction15/11/21 04:47 AM
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Don't do this, it'll destroy your natural testosterone production and cause you to be reliant on test pills forever. Instead, start working out and eating red meat to raise your test naturally. Gaming women regularly will boost this as well, you just have to get past the inital hurdle
/r/seduction12/11/21 11:45 PM
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It's not "being easy" by talking to her. When she's staring, she's interested. Holding back will just make her think you're not confident enough to open to her. I've had girls eye flirt with me and turn their bodies toward me, yet if I didn't initiate fast enough they'd close themselves off and almost seem mad about it
/r/seduction12/11/21 11:41 PM
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This. Do not compliment her body until you've slept with her. Compliment her energy, her style, her demeaner. Literally anything but her looks. As for the OP, basically get to know her after she's attracted. Essentially the game plan is to get her into you, have her qualify, then now that you're "attracted" to her, get interested in her life and what she's about
/r/seduction12/11/21 11:39 PM
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False time restraint, basically it takes pressure off the group. If you randomly approach a group their first thought might be "when's this jackass leaving?" versus opening with one where they just see you as a temporary distraction
/r/seduction09/11/21 12:19 PM
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Go up and say you need a female opinion on something, then start DHVing. By the end of the conversation you should be able to get her number because you find her interesting
/r/seduction09/11/21 02:29 AM
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Go out somewhere this weekend and approach. I expect a field report from you in this sub, if not, the entire sub will think less of you. There, now even if you approach and eat shit we'll still respect you for it since you tried
/r/seduction09/11/21 12:53 AM
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YES. She gave you her number, that's a huge interest signal. She's comfortable with you sleeping over with her. She's stated she wants to see you. Yes the flake sucked but odds are it was just because she got nervous or something else came up. Message her "Hey I happened to see your posts. I'm going to X tonight, you should tag along"
/r/seduction08/11/21 07:29 PM
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Good, but you should have number-closed
/r/seduction08/11/21 07:23 PM
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What's the context here? You have her number, invited her to a date, then she flaked? And you haven't texted each other since? Odds are she thinks you're mad at her for flaking, thus the silence. What I'd do is "Hey I was doing X (preferably something related to her) and you popped into my mind, what have you been up to?". Another, more darker way to reignite a conversation is "Just booked the reservation". If she bites out of curiousity, just say you texted the wrong number. If she asks what it…
/r/seduction08/11/21 07:21 PM
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If you're in a social place, there's nothing wrong with meeting new people. If asked just say you're doing just that. It is "weird" for a random guy to butt into a girl's conversation and try to pick her up, but that's why openers exist along with ejecting if she's not immediately receptive (a ftr helps with giving you an out). By the way, keep in mind most of these women getting mad about being approached are being approached by guys completely unaware of game. Guy's who'll stare at their boobs…
/r/seduction08/11/21 07:11 PM
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I use something like this as an opener occasionally, I ask like "Hey, did you go to X school?" or "Hey, did you work at X?". They'll say no, then say where they actually work/studied and I can use that as a conversation starter
/r/seduction08/11/21 07:04 PM
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How bad is it? If it's just a simple norwood development, own it. If it's like a bald spot on your crown, shave it all off. One of the greatest puas of all time did that and proved that hair doesn't matter that much for pulling women
/r/seduction07/11/21 09:33 PM
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Try to set your dates sooner, within the next 48 hours. This is so neither of you agonize over if the other will actually be there given how far away it is, and the more spontaneous a date is, the better. Avoid texting in the meantime, especially don't try to confirm she'll be there as that'll come off as needy. Text her when you get there, and if she asks why you went silent since, say it's because you wanted to save the conversations in person
/r/seduction07/11/21 09:31 PM
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Since the other guy's being difficult, push pull is essentially dangling a string in front of cat. A lot of kino escalation is built on this idea. For example, putting your hand on her knee for a bit, then taking it away. You were giving her something good, then you took it away. Or like in a group, you could pay attention to her in particular a bit, then go back to addressing the group. Even when setting up dates this is present, you could offer to take her to a nice restaurant, but only if she…
/r/seduction07/11/21 09:13 PM
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If she calls you nice say "Don't get used to it" with a smirk. Nice guys always finish last, so you have to keep up your cocky slight-asshole demeanor. Don't actually become an asshole, but be enough of one so people respect you and don't walk all over you
/r/seduction07/11/21 02:16 PM
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Do PUA courses work To a degree, a workshop is essentially someone giving you live feedback, though you can just post field reports here and get the same thing. Especially don't take online courses. Can I do it at 40 Sure, a lot of PUAs were doing it just fine mid-30 Is it creepy Only if you make it be dating apps Just list in your bio you aren't looking for anything serious and play the numbers game
/r/seduction07/11/21 12:51 PM
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Do it, I stole it from somewhere. Next time that cute girl is eye flirting with you at the bar and your approach anxiety is ramping up, say that to yourself
/r/seduction07/11/21 12:39 PM
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For starters, you open to the group, not a single member. In this case it went alright, but in a group of guys/gals they'll see what you're doing and turn against you. Focus on the entire group, then try to go one on one with the girl you're after. Also, there's nothing wrong with getting multiple numbers. The first girl that showed interest may feel salty you "rejected" her for her friend and may cockblock you for it. As for the rest, you did the right thing. However, your initial text shouldn'…
/r/seduction07/11/21 03:22 AM
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Do not pay money for a program. Especially an online program. You're being scammed. These days there's so many free resources that you can easily read and use in venues that you can develop your skills organically. All they'll do is hype you up, make you feel good and confident just enough that you'll leave a good review. It's not worth it. Nobody can possibly be a better teacher for yourself than you. Pracitice the fundamentals. Fail a few times. Learn. Figure out which aspects work and which d…
/r/seduction07/11/21 03:15 AM
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Texting is rarely exciting, it's an obligation. And the fact that she was expressing interest and you didn't act on it caused her to have less attraction for you. If she does get back to your text, immediately initiate a date, my go-to is "I'm going to X for dinner, wanna tag along?". If not, get a convo in person going again and say that in person instead. You have to escalate; a man's hesitation is a woman's reservation. Stagnating shows you aren't confident enough to keep escalating
/r/seduction06/11/21 10:20 PM
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Being too scared to lose a woman will ironocally cause that to happen. Sometimes you have to take chances, and sometimes pushing those boundaries will end your relationship together. But you can't be afraid of that. There's always another girl, abandoning the scarcity mindset is key to being confident and not giving a fuck
/r/seduction06/11/21 03:09 PM
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You're being too friendly. While holding a conversation is a great skill to have, and will earn you some comfort, you shouldn't really focus on that until you're sure she's attracted. So say you sit down on your date and start talking, try to steer the conversation into a direction where you can demonstrate your value, such as what you do for work (are you important, do you mentor/train people, etc). Do this until she gives you interest signals like eye contact, laughing at all your jokes, leani…
/r/seduction06/11/21 03:00 PM
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Shit test, basically seeing if you're unaffected by her testing. So for example if you're a shorter guy and she mocks you for it, you agree and amplify to show you don't care what she thinks. So saying like "I'm taller when I wear my heels" can pass that
/r/seduction06/11/21 12:51 PM
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Perhaps, but it sounds like a shittest to me. Women don't want a man who'll bend to them, they want to be taken for a ride and be lead
/r/seduction06/11/21 12:38 PM
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No idea, but the fact remains that women have far more options than men in real life and dating apps
/r/seduction06/11/21 12:37 PM
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"I'm headed out to X tonight, wanna tag along?". No fear of rejection. She says no? You were doing it anyway. And it takes pressure off her because it's not a "date", just a simple hangout
/r/seduction06/11/21 12:55 AM
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If you don't like your world being empty, don't let it be empty. Fill it with friends, interesting hobbies you enjoy, and then get women. How are you spending your weekends?
/r/seduction06/11/21 12:51 AM
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"If it was the other way around is that a reasonable response". Yes. If a girl I'm with has a problem with my history (not that I usually give hard numbers) and wants to end it, then that's entirely fine. I'd rather she be clear and leave than constantly have it eating away at her. To be frank, I rarely ask or care how many past partners she's had, I was just giving OP my opinion that he isn't "wrong" for it bothering him
/r/seduction05/11/21 07:42 PM
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Let's say there's a 20 year old girl who's had 10 sexual partners. Let's assume she's been having sex since 16, so 4 years for 10 partners, or 10/4 (2.5) partners per year. That means her relationships lasted an average of 6 months. If her relationships only last 6 months across 10 different guys, then the common point of failure here is likely her, thus making her bad relationship material. I could be wrong here, maybe she really did encounter 10 shitty guys in a row, but it'd certainly be a re…
/r/seduction05/11/21 07:17 PM
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Like another person said, kino escalation. Next time you meet her you can comment on her hands and touch them, or do a palm reading. If she's uncomfortable with it, you'll be able to tell. And keep in mind, the more you hesitate with your kino the less interested she'll be
/r/seduction05/11/21 06:32 PM
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How long did you spend with girl 2? She said you were moving too fast, did you spend 7-9 hours together prior to attempting sex? Other than that it seems mostly unluckiness, girl 1 mostly. Girl 3 was testing you, she wanted to see if you'd be able to keep your frame. Odds are with her new guy she said the same thing and he disregarded it. Did you want anything else with girl 4? If so you can still likely hit her up and propose a date. And girl 5 is just you having standards
/r/seduction05/11/21 06:29 PM
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In this day and age, you'd be hardpressed to find a girl over the age of 18 who's a virgin, religious girls aside. While it does matter, I'd say that as long as she's slept with less guys than her age - 16, she's good. Any number higher than that could imply that she's quick to have sex on a dime and thus is bad relationship material
/r/seduction05/11/21 03:03 PM
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How to have a tinder conversation? Don't. Within 8 messages try to set up a date. If she says no, then doesn't immediately offer another time, ghost her for a few days and try again. If it fails again go on to your other matches and forget about her. Doing this presents you as spontaneous and a man with options. Remember that she has double digit matches and just trying to be nice and "get to know her" over text is boring and will result in her finding someone else
/r/seduction05/11/21 02:56 PM
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Alright, I'll give you my game plan. So I'm at a bar and two things happen: she sits near me or glances over at me a couple of times. That's how women "open" with you. They're social and just going up to a guy could lead to rejection and thus cause damage to their rep. Once she "opens" I open. Typically "I need a female opinion" could work, for example a friend of mine just got put on break by his girlfriend, so I could ask her what a break means to a girl. Now that we're talking, I start thread…
/r/seduction05/11/21 01:24 PM
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Yeah mods told me why (the authors are a touchy topic for reddit) so I doubt I'll be trying again. It's a shame since these sre legitimately good books that can help a lot of struggling men but I understand and not posting it again
/r/seduction05/11/21 01:11 PM
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Exactly. Learning about game is just the tutorial. It's easy to get stuck in the self-help loop of just consuming more and more books/posts/videos on it so you feel "ready" but really all you need is one solid introduction on it. The rest is practice, seeing what works for you in the field, what doesn't, and coming up with some of your own material
/r/seduction05/11/21 05:28 AM
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In that case, I'd suggest studying up on game some more and doing it with random women you come across. If you end up with some spare cash you could use dating apps, many here have luck with those.
/r/seduction05/11/21 03:32 AM
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I go there to have a few drinks and meet new people. Though given your monetary situation, I'd work on yourself first. Dates with women are expensive, especially if you do it multiple times a week. Work on yourself first, if you're in a deadend minimum wage job, start looking into ways to get qualifications to get better positions. You could simply get a single light beer and walk around with it
/r/seduction05/11/21 02:45 AM
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What you posted was pretty much it. Maybe she wanted you to be confident enough to kiss her, and not doing so turned her off you? This type of thing does happen occasionally, your choices now are to wait until she responds or try to double text, but at this point I think it's a done deal and you should go game other women
/r/seduction05/11/21 02:03 AM
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That might be it. Did you have her qualify herself to you? Like ask her what her attractive qualities were? A lot of times if you don't do that they'll flake since they know all you're after is her body and not who she is
/r/seduction05/11/21 01:54 AM
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No, like the night was awkward for her. Like if you were to just start making out with a chick at the bar, then text her the next day she might go completely cold on you
/r/seduction05/11/21 01:23 AM
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I'll attempt to repost it now, I'm hoping I can get it out for the whole community
/r/seduction05/11/21 12:22 AM
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"I need a female opinion" followed by some bullshit is all you need, then go from there
/r/seduction05/11/21 12:05 AM
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That's what I'd read after. I actually typed up a whole post on the "core" books for anyone to read but the mods took it down. Might try again sometime
/r/seduction05/11/21 12:01 AM
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I know you said you don't want theory, but "the rational male" should be required reading for anyone on this sub trying to understand women. The biggest game tactic I would recommend is cocky funny. Nobody wants to fuck an arrogant asshole, and nobody wants to fuck a clown. But maintain a good balance of the too, I.e. someone both with a sense of humor (a display of social calibration and intellegence) and cockiness (confidence), you'll have the perfect mindset for meeting new women. You should …
/r/seduction04/11/21 11:32 PM
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Is there a place where you live that young people go? Bars are big with young people. And besides, just because they're older doesn't mean you can't befriend them, even if only to hone your conversational skills
/r/seduction04/11/21 07:48 PM
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Meeting new people, anywhere you can. At school, at work, local events, bars, where ever you can. Just last week I started talking to a guy in line at the bar and he invited me to head out with him and his buddies to another venue. I highly recommend carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People" (particularly part 2) for this. Remember that men and women are fundamentally different, don't try to "pick up" men like you do women. Rather, you opener would be a simple introuction, your attrac…
/r/seduction04/11/21 07:39 PM
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The answer is yeah of course. When I went to my first bar it took loads of courage. All those sounds, sights, people constantly judging me. That was terrifying. But once I started doing it regularly, I got more confident. Bartenders knew me by name, regulars would wave to me, I obtained social proof along with confidence. So yes, push yourself. It's like driving a car, first it seems impossible and scary but eventually it becomes no big deal. I advise to start going to bars and trying to break o…
/r/seduction04/11/21 07:27 PM
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Why do some guys have abundance? Because they're good with women. When they were younger they likely accidentally discovered some "game" tactics, found they worked, and subconsciously began using them, gaming their whole lives. The difference between you two was the circumstances of your upbringing, mostly luck. If you seek abundance level, pick up some game, and apply it to every situation you find yourself in. Run into a girl at the bar? Game her. Random neighbor? Game her. Every girl is an op…
/r/seduction04/11/21 07:22 PM
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I never really tell "jokes" yet I can get girls laughing. The key is to bust her balls on something, tease her a little. Like a girl I was talking to was telling me she grew all sorts of stuff in her garden and I joked that she was running a blackmarket produce shop. Callback humor is especially useful too, like say during dinner the girl got a side of carrots, I could say "Ah, do they taste better when you get them legally?"
/r/seduction04/11/21 07:14 PM
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Then say "I gotta head out, though I wouldn't mind continuing this conversation later". There's less of a shot of it working if she's not fully attracted to you but she may still give you her number
/r/seduction04/11/21 07:09 PM
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As soon as you get interest signs and you've achieved mutual attraction. So let's say you're at a bar, you've opened to a lady, presented your best qualities, and now she's clearly interested (asking you a bunch of questions about your life). That's when you do it. I usually do "Hey you seem pretty interesting, I'd love to talk to you more sometime but I gotta go soon". Usually that'll result in her giving YOU her number. Remember, you're flipping the script. By having her give you her number yo…
/r/seduction04/11/21 01:58 PM
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DiCarlo kino escalation ladder. As you're on your dates you should be building physical touch, a simple way is to learn palm reading and steer the conversation in a direction that would allow you to do it. Brush something off her shoulder, playfully bump her when she says something lame. Tease her. Stuff like that
/r/seduction03/11/21 08:23 PM
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"Now that you mention it, it has been a while. I'm actually going out to X tonight, why don't we catch up?"
/r/seduction03/11/21 08:18 PM
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Move on. Odds are she feels awkward about it. Best thing you can do is focus on other women and send a text in a week like "I'm headed out to X for dinner, wanna tag along?"
/r/seduction03/11/21 08:16 PM
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For starters, don't come off as desperate. Focus on yourself, get into lifting, start dressing right, and focus on making a strong social circle (of men) to get over your anxiety. Then read more into seduction basics and start approaching. It's a long journey, there's no "trick" to fucking some random girl over night. If current you isn't working then be someone better, you are who you say you are
/r/seduction03/11/21 05:49 PM
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She's interested. Her giving you her number is a huge interest signal, and the fact she texted back proves it wasn't just to be nice. You did the right thing with your date setup (chicks love it when you decide the place/time, closer it is the better). You probably should have tried to scope out her work schedule covertly prior, but she's still interested if she offered another time. For me, I do three strikes: 1. I offer a date and she rejects 2. She doesn't immediately offer a new time (so you…
/r/seduction03/11/21 05:43 PM
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