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Oh uh sorry. Ur dumb n rong! ...better? ^<sup>_</sup>^
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 09:45 PM
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You also realize you spend your life receiving various benefits (along with the disadvantages) of men trying to get you to have sex with them, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 09:45 PM
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Look, care about what you wanna care about. Just maybe chill with the strawmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 09:35 PM
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That men generally devote more time to thinking about sex, while still having functioning lives. The idea that what they said equates to "men spend so much time thinking about sex it cripples their lives!" is idiotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 09:30 PM
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True but the flip side to that is that people actually love their kids and they don't love their bosses/coworkers. I often hear people speak fondly of raising kids, not so much of their time in the office.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 04:39 PM
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Rape is to feminists as terrorism is to conservatives.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/19 06:55 PM
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It's clearly a ripoff of grindr, which is about the only real hookup app that exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 12:46 PM
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If your wife held a door for some guy, and the guy didn't even acknowledge her, you wouldn't think "that guys a jerk"? Face it, the woman here was being rude and she got a snarky comment for it. You're just trying to reframe it as "well uhhh hes the asshole for thinking people should have basic manners!"
/r/PussyPassDenied02/09/19 10:09 PM
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Thanking someone for going out of their way to be nice is just basic fucking decency, dude.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/09/19 10:02 PM
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"When people go out of their way to do nice things for me, sometimes I just ignore them and go about my business" - sounds like a jerk thing to do, but ok.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/09/19 06:26 PM
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When people do nice things for you, how do you respond?
/r/PussyPassDenied02/09/19 06:12 PM
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I'm sorry but it's bullshit to make a specific statement and then run behind "its okay because it applies more broadly". Imagine a racist white person saying "black people shouldn't commit welfare fraud" and then hiding behind "I'm not saying anything controversial, nobody should commit welfare fraud!" There have been innumerable times when I've observed women acting entitled as hell, but if a man were to say "men don't owe women shit, period", I would disagree with him too, because there's no r…
/r/PussyPassDenied02/09/19 05:33 PM
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No no you need to assume men think they're owed sex its the only reasonable interpretation. /s
/r/PussyPassDenied02/09/19 05:27 PM
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Because the pussy pass is the double standard where women get more favorable outcomes than men for identical actions. If a man posted "men don't owe women shit, period", he'd get attacked, called a misogynist, etc etc. She posted this thinking she would get a chorus of "hell yeah men are shit you're so awesome/strong/whatever". Instead, she got called out for being shitty, the same way a man would have. Hence, pussy pass denied. Edit to add: if a man posted the above he would be rightly attacked…
/r/PussyPassDenied02/09/19 05:16 PM
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Unless you can point out what I said that logically translates to "I wish women would approach me", then you're putting words in my mouth. What we're talking about is rejection. You're trying to change the topic to the benefits of being approached- a related, but different topic entirely. Let me ask you though - in those relationships, especially at the beginning, who did the approaching? Which one of you asked the other to hang out one on one, which got the other's private contact info, etc? Ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 05:33 PM
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Ah, I think I see what's going on here. Basically you're making a false equivalency between asking someone out and being told no, and having someone not ask you out. That way you can claim that the dating game is "fair" because "women get rejected too!" and "men can be just as selective as women!" As though the experience of asking someone out and having them say "I'm sorry but I'm not interested" is the same as simply having someone not approach you. You're absolutely wrong here, trying to equi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 05:03 PM
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That's not a rejection though. You get rejected when you apply to a job or college or sports team and they say no. Conversely, you reject a job only when the company makes an offer. According to your definition, every job that isn't calling me up to offer a job is rejecting me, and I'm rejecting every job that I'm not applying to. Your definition renders the term meaningless and is therefore wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 04:26 PM
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I define patriarchy as the system where men have almost all of the economic and political power. If you don't like the term "patriarchy" then call it "traditional society" or whatever. The point remains the same. Why the hell should women accept such a system when it obviously leaves them vulnerable to the whims of men? To your point: women shouldn't accept patriarchy. To add: neither should men. Because I disagree with your definition in that you seem to be defining men as one cohesive group wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 03:50 AM
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Men can reject women that do not live up to their standards. In order to "reject women that do not live up to their standards", men would need to be approached by women in order to reject them. But since women largely refuse to approach men, because getting rejected sucks and they have the option to not do it, men are never given the chance to reject women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 03:28 AM
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You don't think it's arrogant to assume that someone else is going to change whatever plans they may have had to go on a date with you? That you're so certain they will say yes you book a reservation? "Hey I've decided where and when you're having dinner tomorrow." That is like the definition of arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 03:18 AM
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The real difficult part is that you never know and you can never ask when its appropriate, because asking kills it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 03:15 AM
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Why should a guy take that gamble? On one hand, yes, maybe the person will love it. On the other, maybe they'll see it, and him, as manipulative, paternalistic, egotistic, and controlling. Especially when asking without making reservations or declaring when hes going to pick the pain up is about as likely to get him a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 03:11 AM
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You both live on Earth and have simply decided to pay attention to different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 06:00 PM
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I'm a fan of splitting things up. Not necessarily the check itself, but who pays the check and who tips. Or, one person gets the dinner and the other gets the movie/concert/whatever tickets.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 04:31 AM
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Hard disagree. Everybody here seems to think people are perpetually in the club, cruising for hookups or on dating apps. Most women I know date guys based on a ton of different circumstances and factors. Same for most of the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 12:24 AM
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By excluding them from the statistic, the deliberate intent is to imply that all other reports are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 12:20 AM
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Yuuup. It's like listening to white people from financially secure families talk about how they would just work their way out of poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 03:50 AM
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This exactly. "I would just walk into a new place and everybody would be nice and welcoming to me just like they are now."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 03:13 AM
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HAHAHA. Easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 03:11 AM
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I wonder if he considers the dudes at those orgies, or in the bathroom at the club, disgusting, trashy, or unfit to be fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:35 AM
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This question has so many problems baked right in. She's probably interested. Ask her to get coffee or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 09:52 PM
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Right, because you don't have evidence right in front of you of a woman saying "I hate men because men are more likely to commit crime." Nevermind that I'd bet a dollar that you've never literally read someone say the exact words "I hate black people because they are more likely to commit crime." Yet you wouldn't hesitate to agree that the second exist, while questioning the first on the basis that it's ever explicitly been said in front of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 09:49 PM
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Right? If men just wait two or three decades, they can enjoy what women do from age 18, except they'll still have to settle. System is totally fair and balanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 11:24 AM
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How is literal an intent or a purpose?
/r/MensRights11/03/17 02:30 PM
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I'm honestly curious as to what you mean about "every other intent or purpose". Can you elaborate on what those intents and/or purposes are?
/r/MensRights11/03/17 02:04 PM
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Ah, I know this game. I make a general statement, you ask for specific examples. I give specific examples, you say those are irrelevant to making a general case. But fine, I'll play - part of gender is how people are expected to act with other people. In some parts of the world, it's considered unusual for two men to hold hands. In others, it's considered normal. If "man" in one part of the world is defined, in some small part, as "person who doesn't hold hands with other men", and in another pa…
/r/MensRights11/03/17 02:03 PM
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I disagree. Even if we are, for a moment, holding as true that all people of a given sex are of the same gender, you do recognize that gender still has to do with sociological and behavioral issues rather than biological issues, yeah? And that those sociological and behavioral facets have changed over time, and differ between cultures?
/r/MensRights11/03/17 01:30 PM
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I disagree that the reason they've been differentiated was simply "to be more inclusive", but rather to recognize that the issue is a lot more complex than simply "sex = gender". Even getting into what gender is is gets tricky (is it social roles/expectations? is it individual identity? is it how others see you? etc). Also, you mention hormones and behavioral patters - what happens when the hormonal profile of a person more closely matches what is typically associated with the other sex (such as…
/r/MensRights11/03/17 01:26 PM
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Sex and gender are separate concepts though - being of one biological sex doesn't necessarily mean your gender matches the one commonly paired with it.
/r/MensRights11/03/17 12:53 PM
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There's really no room in the MRM for transphobic bullshit like this. Perhaps you need some therapy.
/r/MensRights11/03/17 12:50 PM
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That's a ridiculous lie.
/r/MensRights11/03/17 12:49 PM
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Not only that, a woman invented science fiction too!
/r/MensRights28/12/16 06:07 PM
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Absolutely support this. If I can't handle you at your worst... then I don't fucking want you, go find somebody else to put up with your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 03:13 PM
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People are drawn to actual confidence. People who 'try to be confident' just end up being loud, pompous, self absorbed, and delusional. If you have to try, it's not really confidence, and everybody can tell
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 03:10 PM
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I think most feminists are like me in that they have a strong worldview, a sense of direction, interests, opinions and a career. Do you think women who aren't feminists don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:07 PM
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Fair point, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:53 AM
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I think there's a point to be made that being physically attractive makes everything a little bit easier, especially for women. So while you're right that women can't just coast on being pretty, it's certainly an asset they can leverage in just about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:22 AM
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there really isn't an equivalent of toxic masculinity for women in today's society. Sure there are. Women are socialized to be catty and two-faced to each other. Women are socialized not to communicate their wants, needs, and feelings directly, so they act passive aggressively. Women are socialized that they need to "train" their partners so they attempt to manipulate them instead of actually talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:07 AM
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There are other words for the harmful effects of gender roles on women, but they don't sound like "toxic masculinity". This is an awesome point. Calling it "Toxic masculinity" means that the men who do it are complicit. However, when women act badly due to gender roles, it's not framed as them acting badly but as social forces acting on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:04 AM
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What disadvantage? There are relative disadvantages in both directions. But yeah, the feminist perspective that only women have disadvantages, and only men have advantages, is stupid.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/16 04:56 AM
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Also, feminists constantly act like assholes and then try to claim that the people who dislike them are against equality. Feminist: #killallmen, male tears, quit mansplaining, all men are dangerous animals Average person: wow you're an asshole Feminist: Why do you hate women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 04:01 AM
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Well, for one thing, you turn every concept into a meaningless "I win" button. Mansplaining originally had a very specific meaning and was actual social commentary. Now literally anything a man says can be dismissed if it's "mansplaining", and literally anything can be labeled "mansplaining". Gaslighting used to have a specific meaning. Now anytime someone disagrees with a feminist, they're "Trying to gaslight her." See also 'tone policing'. See also 'privilege'. See also 'silencing' and 'erasin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:38 PM
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Even a feminist woman had to make the documentary about the Men's Rights Movement, that really says a lot about the movement itself. Yeah. It says that nobody cares unless a woman says it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:21 PM
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In the police report, detectives say they watched two cell phone videos of some of the players' encounters with the woman Do we have any evidence that the guys in the video are or are not the ones she says she consented to?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:12 PM
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Two things make porn hot: seeing a woman sexually pleasuring someone (such as a woman giving a blowjob), and a woman being sexually pleasured (a woman being fucked and screaming/moaning/panting/etc). Lesbian porn has both, at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 07:57 PM
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I was thinking about this today and I wonder how much, even on a subconscious level, women expect men to put up with more shit in relationships because they know the dating field is worse for guys. If a couple splits up, the woman usually gets a bunch of date offers, gets taken out for fun free nights on the town, had guy after guy messaging her on OKC. She has guys trying to win her over. The guy, otoh, has to go out and try to win another woman over. It's emotionally taxing, expensive, and he'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 07:53 PM
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The result is getting sex by pushing women who have rejected you. If that's the results this shit is selling, I'll take my self respect, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 06:29 PM
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Lets also keep in mind that what makes someone "creepy" are often reasons that don't fly so well with the Social Justice crowd. Black or latino man hits on racist white woman? Creep Guy openly admits to being bisexual? Creep Guy is obviously poor? Creep. Guy has poor fashion sense? Creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 06:28 PM
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No. The proper response to a rejection is to respectfully back off. This advice is wrong and terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 06:18 PM
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Came to say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 06:58 PM
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This is true but phrased in a sexist way, because yeah women play games but so do men. The problem isn't "how women act" or "how men act" but "how everyone is socialized to act".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 06:45 PM
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Well one because being more logical is better than being more emotional. And being more intuitive is better than being less intuitive. Both can be harmful expectations. So where are all the feminists decrying that men have greater expectations and pressures on them to be logical? Men are given all sorts of negative allowances with regards to behavior ie "men are dogs" Ah, see, you reframe an insult to men as a "negative allowance". Lets try the same for women, shall we? "Women are given all sort…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 06:41 PM
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This is... terrible and you ought rethink your entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:21 AM
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Why is it that if people say men are more logical, it's harmful to women because it implies men are in some way superior, but when people say women are more intuitive, it's harmful for women because it puts greater expectations and pressures on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 07:35 AM
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Can't you understand that women just want equality, and that means that things can be offered to women and not men, but never in the reverse? That's how equality works because they say so!
/r/MensRights15/12/16 03:20 AM
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I love how a woman can assault a man, falsely accuse him, and only video evidence of the encounter saves him. Because women are savagely oppressed second class citizens and the entire world, including the legal system, is designed to harm them.
/r/MensRights15/12/16 03:19 AM
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If that's the case than TRP is a lot more toxic than I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 03:03 AM
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General society is always looking for ways to say "women are better than men". Positing that women have some natural inborn superior intuition for relationships just fits that bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 03:00 AM
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Because online dating/hookup sites are designed in such a way that men get fucked over. Eventually they get bitter and their aim moves from getting laid to getting back at women (see also harassing messages).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 02:56 AM
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Every time the issue of "pushing through" comes up, someone from TRP says that the correct response is the "freeze out". Can you link to a thread where someone suggests that a guy should "push through" resistance? Or pressure women until they accept? I don't know if it happens or not. But pretty much everything I see from TRP is "ignore her and act like you don't give a shit" which, while shitty, is pretty much the opposite of aggressive pressuring.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 02:54 AM
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"Just give her some time, she'll come around"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 02:48 AM
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What techniques exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 02:39 AM
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I think the concept of gender is stupid. We are biologically male or female. You seem to be arguing from the perspective that gender doesn't exist, and that only biological sex does. Which is fair if we're talking about things existing in the scientific definition, as you mention in your reply. And hell yes I agree that otherkin are fucking stupid. But, where we disagree, is that gender doesn't exist or isn't important. Gender often determines people's self image, what they value, how they inter…
/r/MensRights11/12/16 12:45 AM
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No no no. The gender of the top paid performers only counts if they're men. Since it's women at the top, who gets paid the most simply doesn't count, and we have to only look at factors that imply women are oppressed.
/r/MensRights10/12/16 11:50 PM
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What even is your position anyway?
/r/MensRights10/12/16 11:46 PM
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Okay, so uh, Proof: There is a concept called gender fluidity that describes how some people experience gender. It describes an internal experience and is therefore entirely subjective. There are people who identify as gender fluid, using the above definition. What more proof (again, regarding some peoples subjective internal experience) is necessary?
/r/MensRights10/12/16 11:46 PM
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Also, do you have a source "proving" that the opposite is true, and that gender is a fixed and inherent trait in everyone? Or does that perspective not require proof?
/r/MensRights10/12/16 10:09 PM
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Seriously, please, describe to me something that would qualify as a "source", since you're so intent on demanding one.
/r/MensRights10/12/16 10:07 PM
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What do you want proof of exactly though? That "gender fluid" is a term that accurately represents the experience some people have with regards to their gender? I can link you to people who say "I am gender fluid." You can look up what gender fluid means, and it'll match what those people are saying. What exactly do you imagine 'proof' of something that describes some people's internal experience would look like?
/r/MensRights10/12/16 10:06 PM
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Exactly that you're asking for a source for something on which there is no authoritative text? You realize if there's no objective way to say my thinking is right, there's no objective way to say your thinking is right, yeah?
/r/MensRights10/12/16 08:28 PM
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Yeah the thing that gets me about this is the implicit deification of women. "We could totally make it so that any woman can anonymously accuse a man of rape and he'll be knifed in his sleep. No woman would ever abuse that, because women are perfect angels."
/r/MensRights10/12/16 07:16 PM
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What kind of source would you need, exactly? Honest question, because anything written on social sciences isn't going to be a verifiable "source" in the sense that there could be academic evidence.
/r/MensRights10/12/16 07:08 PM
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It's almost like I was being sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 07:00 PM
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Yeah no, I disagree?
/r/MensRights10/12/16 07:00 PM
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I disagree, clearly.
/r/MensRights10/12/16 06:59 PM
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Gender fluidity isn't bullshit, in and of itself, though.
/r/MensRights10/12/16 03:16 PM
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Abundance mentality? There is no abundance for omega guys, so ffs forget about abundance mentality. Holy shit this. For "I have other options" to be effective at all, there has to be some chance that you have other options. Otherwise you just look like a delusional fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 05:11 PM
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A person who treats sex recreationally is not a good match for a person who is sexually conservative and reserves sex for serious monogamous romantic relationships. But isn't RP mostly for guys who want to have recreational sex? "Spinning plates" and all that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 03:30 AM
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It's almost like TRP is for guys who aren't naturally "alpha".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 03:29 AM
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Not RP, but of fucking course it's rape to put your penis in someone when they're saying "no no no" ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 03:12 AM
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Oh I'm not saying they aren't bitter and resentful toward women. Just that if we're talking about the overall effect of being MGTOW, you might not be seeing the positives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:24 PM
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I travel in a lot of LGBT/Queer circles. Feminists everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:13 PM
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Maybe more guys are starting to realize that they don't actually want what RP offers (playing games correctly to get sex from multiple women).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:10 PM
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I'd imagine it's a limited-view thing. That is, some MGTOW guy might have a successful personal practice, lots of hobbies, be an avid reader, etc. He'll talk about business on some other forum/subreddit, and his hobbies/interests on others, then come to a MGTOW sub to bitch about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:09 PM
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"Creeps" are socially-marginalized males who may or may not be dangerous. Of course they may or may not be dangerous. Those are the only two possibilities in existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 03:21 AM
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I like how full circle triggered has come. Like, first it was legitimate - people who actually had PTSD talking about being sent into a panic attack. Then it got co-opted by SJWs so they could claim anything that made them slightly uncomfortable was 'triggering'. Now it's used as a way to dismiss any disagreement, by trying to claim that someone else is 'triggered' in the co-opted sense. Been an interesting progression to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 01:58 AM
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It's also possible they just think it was a badly written post full of wrong ideas. But hey, yeah, must be that men just can't fathom the idea of lesbians, or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 01:40 AM
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Are you asking why men have feelings that aren't completely logical and rational? That's just kind of a human thing. This is like asking why a woman would stay with an abusive man. Sure, rationally she should just say "Hey you smack me around sometimes, I'm just going to leave." In practice, feelings tend to not follow optimal rationality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 11:42 PM
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Guess we disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 11:39 PM
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Ah, I am sorry to have misinterpreted. But that sexual arms race is dumb too. Maybe more women will eventually say fuck it and stop trying to use sex/sex acts as a bargaining chip for commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 11:37 PM
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rich older ugly guy with the great personality and sense of humour. women value personality and character above looks. No... this means women value money over looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 11:35 PM
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The idea that men and women have biologically different ideal mating strategies, so each develops means to benefit their strategy at the disadvantage of the others?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 11:32 PM
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Sure - I think it's dumb and I support things that fuck it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 11:13 PM
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I'm not a woman, but it makes sense that you'd do some reading on subreddit dedicated to men talking about how to get what they want from relationships, in order to get an idea of what men tend to like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 11:11 PM
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The sexual arms race is dumb. The idea that women having sex diminishes their ability to be a partner is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 11:08 PM
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Many of you will still pretend it's satire because you don't want to fathom that some women simply don't want men. Oh man, great start.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 11:01 PM
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The whole deal with TRP is that men should look down on women, because doing so makes them more fuckable. Holding these prejudices just makes that easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 05:24 AM
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You can cite a fact out of context in order to draw a false or predetermined conclusion from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 02:50 PM
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No, facts can't be sexist. However, they can be abused to propagate sexism. Same with any other ism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 02:50 AM
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I've said this before, but here goes again: Every shit talking sub has the same problem. There simply isn't enough "Oh my god this is so far out there" stuff from the parent sub to support it. So while the first few posts in TBP might be ridiculous field reports or guys in the "anger phase" of TRP calling all women "miserable bitches", it very quickly devolves. People in TBP have to read everything in TRP while thinking "How can I put this in the worst possible light? How can I interpret this in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 12:38 AM
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And then there are men who are "only nice" who I feel inspired to do nice things for; however they don't inspire any sexual attraction from me. From what I've seen, personally, this is not a particularly popular standpoint. That is, in a lot of cases women are more than happy to let men do nice things for them without ever even considering doing nice things for him in return (always with the go-to "he's just being nice to get in my pants so he's an asshole anyway" in their back pockets). Guys pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 10:23 PM
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Except that's not what was said, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 10:19 PM
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Explain those things so you can accuse me of mansplaining the second you want to opt out of the discussion? Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 11:44 PM
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"There's subtext, context and nuance when WE do it but none of those things apply when THEY do it"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 01:58 PM
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Why is it so easy for people to see these TRP things as "hating women", yet prominent themes in feminism, such as: Men are violent / Teach men not to rape / Men are entitled / Men think women are objects /Men are responsible for the actions of other men Are somehow not evidence of hatred of men? I'm not saying TRP isn't misogynistic, there's clearly a lot of women hating bullshit going on there. Just annoyed that the same people who call out TRP defend feminism despite the latter doing exactly t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 01:30 PM
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I lurk on TBP every once in a while and I find that they often do interpret well-meaning posts in the worst possible light due to their assumptions. That's the inherent problem with TBP, FDRbroke, TumblrinAction, and every other "lets get together and talk about how much this other sub/these other people suck" subreddits. There's just not enough ammo to sustain whole subreddits based on the extreme or ridiculous parts of some other sub or group. So the standards eventually get eroded and the mem…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 01:15 PM
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A woman can beat the shit out of a man Who thinks this is okay? Watch literally any experiment done where a woman physically abuses a man in public, or any video where a woman is hitting a man. No one steps in, no one has a problem with it. Especially pay attention to the videos where a man hits a woman back and watch the responses suddenly start.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 12:39 PM
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Btw- no strings attached sex =\= acting like an asshole. The whole basis of this conversation is "if a woman thinks you're relationship quality, she'll make you wait for sex", is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 02:55 AM
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And you know he got what he wanted and bailed rather than waiting But it wasn't a problem when the other guy did it? Look, if this is how women think, and act, okay. Just don't be surprised when guys act like assholes when they're trying to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 02:50 AM
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No, they aren't. If women collectively stopped fucking the guys they don't want to date, and only fucked the guys they do think are "relationship quality", then they would ultimately have lower N-counts (not to mention actually encouraging men to be decent instead of treating them like shit to get laid).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 02:30 AM
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Okay sorry, you're right, I shouldn't have made it about you. That was uncalled for and I sincerely apologize. Just omit the "like you" from it, and the question stands though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 02:20 AM
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and attempt to keep their N count as low as possible Woah. Where's the worry about their N count when they're banging the "hot but not relationship material" guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 02:19 AM
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and get a relationship quality man to invest in them a little So, in other words, if a guy is respectful, responsible, and treats women as people, he "gets" to make an investment of his time, money, and energy on women. If he's an undatable asshole, women will have hot crazy sex the night they meet him, because they aren't trying to "get him to invest in them". Do women like you ever wonder why guys act like assholes so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 02:18 AM
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Because the guy who is going to bail on you after sex is going to bail on you after sex if you fuck him on day one, two, or 90. Or he'll leave after he doesn't get sex right away - either way he's going to leave, so what benefit does it give you to not have sex? The guy who isn't going to bail on you after sex isn't going to bail on you if you fuck him on day one, two, or 90.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 02:15 AM
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Why can't you just fuck the dude AND build the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 02:07 AM
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I had a partner, years ago, who was also hooking up with a friend of mine (everybody knew, everybody was cool with it). The topic of threesomes (FFM) came up once, and she said "I would have a threesome with him and another girl, but not with you, because I really care about you." I mean, great, since he's just treating you like a fuckdoll and I'm treating you like a person, you're cool with being part of a fun sexy time for him but not me?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 02:05 AM
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But you're lazy or secretly not all that committed to what your opinion is. I am lazy, yes. My opinion is that its not acceptable for women to ditch men over common parts of pretty much any relationship. Doing so is a Real Asshole Thing. My opinion is that men aren't ultimately easier to please in relationships because "bomb pussy" isn't sufficient to hold a mans attention for very long, and certainly doesn't outweigh being "the most annoying person on the planet".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 01:39 PM
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I cannot, because we're not talking about facts, we're talking about your opinion. Your opinion seems to be that its perfectly acceptable for a woman to ditch any man over common relationship problems. Your opinion seems to be that men are easier to please in relationships because "pussy may feel bomb" (hint: most pussies don't feel all that much different from other pussies, very few pussies actually feel bomb). So, uh, no, I can't disprove your opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 01:25 PM
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Sure. In the meantime, all of those positions are still going to exist and still require humans to fill them. The point I was getting at is the fact that so many people work at low level jobs isn't because they lack ambition, its because the system is designed that way. It's absolutely necessary for virtually every company in existence to have low paid, low skilled workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:19 PM
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I would think if all these jobs could so easily be automated they would have already. Businesses don't hire people in these low wage positions out of the kindness of their hearts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:12 PM
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You say that like the typical woman is any good at sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:53 PM
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Because its always the people who never have to deal with the situations judging people dealing with them. Of course, this is usually the part where people tell us all about how they grew up in an orphanage without a penny to their name and pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps by hard work and pure gumption. When in reality they grew up in a family with enough money to have them in a good school district, that was able to send them to college, who probably had professional connections to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:42 PM
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The crazy, and frustrating thing, about people like the OP here are that they have so many various advantages and fail-safes that most people don't have and they have absolutely no idea about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:31 PM
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Come on now, Prof., you're really going to call your opinion/viewpoint "reality"? You're going to pull that? "Anybody who disagrees with me is just sensitive to reality." - surely you see this is an ignorant argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 04:05 PM
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Don't get me wrong - at the object level, I agree that male dominated spaces being shitty towards women is a problem that should be recognized, addressed, and corrected. But in larger context, I always see discussions about male dominated spaces being shitty towards women, while the fact that female dominated spaces are shitty towards men is accepted or justified. I'd say the fact is probably just that it's a human thing, when you have an X-group dominated space, it's going to foster some shitty…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 01:00 PM
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Lets assume this is true: nerd culture, being male dominated, has elements about it that are distasteful or problematic towards women. You're aware that the inverse is true as well, and that female dominated spaces also contain elements that are distasteful or problematic towards men, yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 12:52 PM
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Yes yes, and you also write: The gist was if all you're going to bring to my life is stress or whack sex or a lack of visceral attraction or heartbreak or bad credit or a messy home or general annoyance or etc... I was doing better without your presence. This is the reason so many woman in these precarious times choose to stay single. And I also think it's easier for a woman to "add to a man's quality of life." Because even if she's the most annoying chick on the planet, her p*ssy may still feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 12:38 PM
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Why would we just give up our most valuable asset (in the beginning) very quickly? If sex is your most valuable asset, your personality must suck pretty bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 12:31 PM
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Yeah I can't understand your difficulty, you're approaching the situation with such a healthy mindset :P
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 12:22 PM
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This is seriously some entitled bullshit. "If being with you has any drawbacks, I'm gone." "Even if I'm the most terrible person you know, I'm giving you access to PUSSY! You should feel grateful!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 06:18 PM
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Disagree. There are plenty of interesting women out there, you just don't meet them by prioritizing getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 06:04 PM
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This is dumb. Troll tag gets exactly the response it was looking for and now people are playing persecuted.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 05:29 PM
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Okay, that's fair. I guess defining incel as someone who is unable to obtain sex organically is a better definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 01:02 AM
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Why would you include prostitution in there?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 12:16 AM
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Seven point penalty for the irony of caring enough to go out of your way to say you don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 11:51 PM
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You're really, really out of touch with reality then. I know a lot of trans people - they're aware of the risks of violence against them. Also, negative fifteen points for use of slurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 11:47 PM
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Do you think transwomen don't know that most cis guys would react violently to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 11:19 PM
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I had not seen that. Guess I was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 11:12 PM
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I suppose I could see where that kind of stuff could be done in a way that's actually physically challenging, but to be honest every Zumba class I've seen has just been "wave your arms around and clap sometimes".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 08:58 PM
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Cardio is important, sure. Also, since women typically have less lean body mass than men, I agree its probably more important for women than for men. However, what I see getting made fun of isn't simply that women do cardio, its often either (a) that they do only cardio at the exclusion of serious weight training (hour on the treadmill and one set with the pink weights) or (b) that they do low intensity cardio (barely breaking a sweat in Zumba class) for long duration wen they'd get better resul…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 08:52 PM
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I think your thought process here is entirely wrong. Saying "If its just about sex, why don't you have sex with people who don't align with your sexuality" is stupid. Male incels aren't the guys who have several women who would have sex with him but don't meet his standards. Male incels are guys who can't get laid regardless of their attractiveness standards (No, sexuality is not an attractiveness standard).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 08:45 PM
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I highly doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 08:29 PM
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So if someone linked to a study showing that people assume men to be more logical, your first inclination would be to say "Did they compare whether men actually are more logical? Are they more likely to be pensive in the photos for instance? .... Men are brought up to be less emotional than women are, so I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they are actually 'more logical'. Depending on how you define logical."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 10:18 PM
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If the studies showed that people had biases that favored men, would you be as quick to suggest that there must be some objective, logical reason for the bias? Or would you simply take it as proof that people have unfair and unfounded biases toward men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 10:08 PM
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. if I'm watching a YT video of a girl shredding a guitar and I leave a comment like 'nice boobs' it's not because I want to insult her or devalue her as human being or as a musician. it's because the sight of smooth skin in a well proportioned young female specimen makes me horny. It's not about objectification, it's about being appreciative. Nonsense. You know damn well it's going to make her feel devalued and objectified and you do it anyway. Stop kidding yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 03:37 PM
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I agree. Men do a lot of emotional labor too, it just tends to come in different forms. But of course the definition of "emotional labor", according to feminists, is constructed around the forms of emotional labor women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 11:55 AM
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Why is it so unthinkable that people have an inherent bias in favor of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 11:51 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 11:50 AM
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But you do admit that if you put your picture online you'd get hit on, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 12:24 AM
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That's a good point. I can see where that would make for a really unwelcoming environment, to get the extra hate, especially when the people doing it have the fallback of "oh it happens to everybody". Sorry for doing that, earlier, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 11:57 PM
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Ya know.. chances are if you posted pictures of yourself online, and you're reasonably attractive, you'd get hit on. I'm sure you realize this. Yet, instead of doing this thing that would probably get you hit on, you post pointing out how it sucks that you never get hit on. So, uh, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 11:40 PM
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A. That's fair. I was just pointing out the fact that there are advantages - which, frankly, is a thing it's taboo to say in these conversations. Certainly the advantages don't erase the disadvantages. B. Also a good point. However, again, in these conversations the claim is usually something like "Women get harassed in online games because they're women and it never happens to men or when it does happen to men it doesn't count." I don't doubt that people in those games are more likely to take i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 11:38 PM
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I don't think any transgender women think their lives are going to be "easier" being a trans woman as opposed to a cisman. So, no, I don't think this is behind anything to do with transgender women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 11:33 PM
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So what you're saying is: A. There are advantages (such as free items and overly protective team members) to being seen as a women in these games. B. The same people who harass you, when read as a woman, are likely to harass men, albeit with different insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 11:23 PM
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You said you're not posting pictures though, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 11:14 PM
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From the fact that I, and so many other people automatically took it as a reference to sex that I find it hard to believe the advertisers didn't realize it would be taken that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 11:12 PM
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"This has created a huge backlash against women's sexual freedom which looks more and more prominent on the Internet." What are you referring to here, specifically? Slut-shaming in general? MGTOW/Redpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 09:03 PM
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It's not that big a leap in logic - the idea that a person would be nonconsensually recording a sexual encounter, presented as normal and harmless, normalizes the idea of "Its okay to do things related to sex that your partner doesn't consent to."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 08:56 PM
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I have to admit something about this doesn't add up. OP claims to be a young, reasonably attractive woman who can't get laid. However, I've seen objectively unattractive, obese women still get plenty of offers from men for NSA sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 08:54 PM
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Offtopic but do you have a blog called Thing of Things?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 08:28 PM
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I just want my future partner to approach and treat me as an equal, not use "game" or whatever. The fact that you've already decided that it will be him approaching you means the nature of the relationship is already not equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 12:50 PM
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Look, all she wants is for the guy she wants to want her in exactly the way she wants him to want her, which means treating her differently than other people in all the ways she wants but treating her the same as other people in all the ways she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 12:49 PM
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But I think you miss the reason men see the issue as such a problem. It's not that false accusations happen a lot, as compared to rape. It's that rapists are committing a crime against another person against the legal system. A false accuser is committing a crime against another person using the legal system.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:57 AM
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How often do I think it happens? Rarely. How often do I think "actual rape", defined as violent, traumatic, forcible sexual activity, happens? Rarely. I don't think the difference in occurrence is significant enough to make a point of - unless you're stretching the definition of rape to suit an agenda (here's looking at you, Koss), both are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:47 AM
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It'll never happen. The goal is not equality, the goal is the advancement of women. Women will never move out of comfortable, well paying jobs in order to make room for men in those fields. The goal is for women to keep the good jobs and get more of the better jobs, men can take the scraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:40 AM
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You think its necessary to fuck a false accuser in order to be falsely accused? It's more like men: don't ever do anything that could make a psychotic woman upset because she can ruin your life and she will be lionized for doing so. Also you have no idea which women are psychotic, and you'll hear "don't stick your dick in crazy" to blame you for her insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:36 AM
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And men are legally vulnerable in our court system, hence OP's point. If you want to support Schrodinger's Rapist on the grounds that women are vulnerable in one way, to be consistent you need to support Schrodinger's False Accuser because men are vulnerable in another way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:17 AM
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Ah, so your philosophy is that jobs should have the same physical requirements for everyone, yet you know that many jobs have different (easier) requirements for women, yet you feel no need to speak out against this thing that goes against your philosophy. I'm sure the fact that it just happens to benefit women has nothing to do with your reluctance to cause a stir. Unfairness which benefits women doesn't ruffle you nearly as much as unfairness which benefits men, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:14 AM
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From people in general. From other guys at the bar or on the street or on the train, etc. Also lets not forget about the fact that society gives women free license to assault men with impunity, so men are even less safe when you factor that in. And you're trying to limit the scope of the conversation to "people you're on a date with" - you know damn well Schrodinger's Rapist includes every man a woman passes on the street or dances with in the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:11 AM
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Right, which is why you're opposed to the reduced physical requirements for women in many fields? Which is why you've spoken out so many times against them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:04 AM
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I think the point was "why are women believed to be more at risk for violence when it is a fact that men are more at risk for violence?" Logically, it should be men who are worried about being attacked, not women. But, of course, since people like you fight tooth and nail against the idea of men actually being recognized as victims, the "only women get victimized" trope marches on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:01 AM
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People who like the "women are victims and men are perpetrators" model bring up men killing other men because it allows them to deny the victim status of the murdered men (it doesn't count since they were killed by another man), preserving victim status for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:00 AM
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Black people are more likely to be killed, but who kills them? LGBT people are more likely to suffer domestic violence, but who is abusing them? Muslims and African women might suffer horrific genital mutilation, but who is mutilating them? Why the fuck does it matter who is killing the men? Why doesn't it just matter that the men are being killed, full stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 04:55 AM
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The extra careful way we teach women to interact with strangers is born out of the fact that women are more physically vulnerable, in strength. On average, women are not as physically strong as men. It would be (on average) substantially harder for a woman to defend her way out of of a physically threatening situation than a man. Right, this is totally true and you will say it exactly until the point where a physical difference between men and women no longer carries some benefit for women. Then…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 04:53 AM
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Like read the thread exit_sandman just linked you to. Like there are a billion examples of feminists saying hateful things about men. But let me guess, if I make the general statement you'll ask for specifics, and if I give you specifics you'll say they don't count and I need to prove that there is a general case, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:35 AM
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Are you as critical of the way feminists talk about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 12:34 AM
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Because they've been inundated with messages simultaneously telling them that they are better than men and that they have been oppressed by men their whole lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:43 PM
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Eh, in the show the one unsullied who has any personality falls in love with a woman. So even they would be useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:27 PM
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Right? Employers know they can work a man like a dog in ways a woman would walk away from in a heartbeat. Such male privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:25 PM
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Nah. The first time any of those guys get a whiff of pussy they'll turn on each other in an instant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:23 PM
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The wage gap argument is at best myopic cherrypicking. Lets say that, yes, men make more money. Men are also judged on their wealth in a way that women are not. Men are the majority of on the job injuries and death. Men almost exclusively do all of the low paid, high risk, unpleasant jobs. When divorced, a man can be made financially responsible for a woman for the rest of his life and can be put in jail if he is unable to pay what a biased court says he continues to owe her (even if she initiat…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:22 PM
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Uh-huh. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 02:56 PM
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Hey, nice, personal attacks!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 12:01 PM
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I really hope the next guy she tries to hook up with starts the conversation with "I've got my own condoms so you can't bring pinpricked ones over and trick me into paying child support for a kid I don't want." See how much of a fuckbitch she is about consent at that point.
/r/MensRights25/10/15 08:37 PM
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No, I would try to get the fuck away from them. She clearly has every chance to get away yet chooses to pick up a weapon and attack him. But of course since she has a pussy people are going to do pathetic mental backflips to say that she was only acting in self defense.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/10/15 10:17 AM
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"Why should he keep fighting the girls who don't want to fight anymore?" Yeah because the way she picked up that fucking wooden board clearly demonstrated that she didn't want to fight anymore. Fucking idiot.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/10/15 06:40 PM
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Because gender roles are an oppressive invention of the patriarchy and people deserve to be free of them. Exceeeeept when a woman can leverage those gender roles to her advantage. THEN, men (and only men) should adhere strictly to them.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/10/15 06:03 PM
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Good, that's exactly what should happen if you jump a fucking counter and try to attack somebody.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/10/15 05:58 PM
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Thank god she only started screaming when the guy fought back, not when the two women jumped the counter to assault him.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/10/15 05:57 PM
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Yeah, totally! The way she got away from him and then picked up an object to hit him with it clearly shows that she's a helpless victim just being "beaten". "HE'S BEATEN ON ME!!"
/r/PussyPassDenied18/10/15 05:49 PM
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Bet you a million dollars I can find more videos of women hitting cops than you can find videos of men hitting cops.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/10/15 02:15 PM
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The same reason women will post in r/gonewild with a title like "I need somebody to come (f)uck me", but would reject, without a second thought, any actual offers from eager redditors interested in fucking them. What women look for in fantasy and what they look for in reality are galaxies apart from each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 08:42 PM
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Yup. Women get objectified and men get objectified, but it only counts when it happens to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 08:40 PM
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I think this analogy is a bit extreme lol. I would suggest it might be more like your favorite type of music vs a genre you're really not a fan of. So, generally speaking, you love rap but hate alternative rock. But sometimes a rapper will incorporate something from alternative rock and you think "oh hey that actually sounds kind of cool when they borrow that element normally associated with that other thing". Meanwhile, you would still never listen to alternative rock on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:59 PM
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It depends on the person. There are hot androgynous people (three and five), and there are ugly androgynous people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:54 PM
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No no guys feminism is just about equality for women.
/r/MensRights15/09/15 10:51 PM
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True but usually what we're talking about isn't a question of material fact, such as "is there a rock or not", but a question of interpretation, such as "Did she break up with him because he showed a beta quality or for some other reason"? When we're talking about interpretations, confirmation bias is a pretty big player.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 02:16 PM
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Men feel entitled to more money, so they find it easier to negotiate higher salaries. No. Wrong. Men need to make more money, because a man's value rests more on his earnings than a woman's value does. You are so incredibly off base it's laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 11:25 AM
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The idea that women aren't shallow is very outdated and sexist. Yet women, generally, have no problem perpetuating it because it adds to the specter of female moral superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 06:17 PM
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Because SJWs don't correct shit, they're just idiots who think doing shitty things under the guise of "social justice" gives them freedom to be pieces of shit with impunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 12:02 PM
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The fact that some cases exist (racism, classism, etc.) where the label of creep is misused doesn't mean that, on average, it's incorrectly used. I'm not saying it's always, or even more than not, misused. I'm just against the idea that it's never ever misused.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 09:51 PM
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See, again, I'm trying to get the point across to you that the term creep isn't, as you would like to believe, always applied fairly and objectively. So yes, by whose standards? If a man wearing a simple t shirt and jeans approaches a rich girl and she decides that, upon seeing that his clothes don't outwardly imply wealth, he's a creep - does he deserve the label? If a black man approaches a racist white woman who sees him as inherently beneath her, and she labels all of his actions "creepy" as…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 07:16 PM
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If he's an outsider to the scene, dressed weird or acting weird, By whose standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 06:57 PM
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Why are mentally ill women entitled to romantic partnership?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 06:45 PM
1

When did I say the woman was 20 years old?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 06:44 PM
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If people choose to punish her less harshly than a man, how is that her fault, or the fault of women in general? As a man, if people want to give me a job over a woman, how is that my fault? Or the fault of men in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 05:36 PM
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Right? But remember, if he leaves her, he's an asshole who "couldn't handle her", and if she fucks him over it's his own fault because "you shouldn't stick your dick in crazy". Men want to avoid a no-win situation? Hatred! Muh-soggy-knee!!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 05:30 PM
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Whenever women are held accountable for their behavior, feminists and feminist allies scream misogyny. So it's just easier to let them go than to deal with the backlash.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 04:51 PM
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A problem I have with feminists discussing how feminism is about equality is that they always have to compare their movement to other movements, such as those surrounding race and gender/sexuality. They're simply making a false analogy by comparing movements for people who are actually oppressed to a movement for people who are not actually oppressed. If you were to look at all the possible socioeconomic quality of life metrics necessary to compare large groups of people (income, life expectancy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 02:33 PM
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Like try to sell us on the idea that a woman attempting to deface a police car, while surrounded by police, is not banking on her gender protecting her from repercussions?
/r/PussyPassDenied23/08/15 02:12 PM
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It's just showing people here aren't looking for women who use a PPD to get out of stuff but just want to see stuff happening to woman in general. No, it's about wanting to see stuff happen to women which would happen to men doing the same thing, but usually doesn't (thanks to the cultural norm that women deserve coddling, aka the pussypass).
/r/PussyPassDenied23/08/15 02:11 PM
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Perhaps you should look up the definitions of a few words, like "implied" and "implicit".
/r/PussyPassDenied23/08/15 01:55 PM
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Because feminism isn't about equality, it's about doing mental gymnastics to always conclude that women have it worse and things should be made better for women. Just ignore all the hard evidence that women aren't oppressed, it doesn't count - men sometimes sit with their legs spread on trains!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 11:26 AM
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Creep shaming is shaming people with low social skill when they mess up and come off as creepy. The way you put it pretty much blames the shamer, it's a bit delusional. Blame the creep for his ineptitude Except that the actual actions taken by the "creep" don't constitute 'low social skill' when taken by someone else. The middle aged, balding, overweight guy with bad teeth walking up to a woman in a bar and saying "Hi there, my name is Steve, are you having a good time tonight?" is creepy. The y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 11:25 AM
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Also, good job pulling the "but everything is worse for teh womenz!" card, as expected. Keep up the good work, you One Good Man, you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 10:26 AM
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Feminism implies a narrower focus on achieving equality for women. How do people not get that "equality for women" is not "equality"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 01:54 AM
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Sure, you weren't making an accusation phrased as a question. You were just clarifying. Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 01:32 AM
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Seriously though dude, go check out ihatewomen.com. Like, I went there after reading your shitpost here, and laughed for a good five minutes. It's like this... angelfire-made thing with flaming text and a rainbow sentence at the bottom and just.. oh man, go look.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 08:45 PM
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Yes. How that could be taken as "women face no inequalities" is.. simply beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:59 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:58 PM
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Sure. I could talk about how men are considered losers if they are unemployed or underemployed. And you can call it patriarchy backfiring, amirite? I could talk about young men essentially being expected to be able to move out at 18 while young women have no such expectations of financial independence. Patriarchy backfiring. I could talk about men who work with kids being suspected of child abuse/molestation. So you can say that's really cause taking care of children is women's work, so women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:20 PM
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Are you really claiming there is no gender based inequality against women? No, I'm unsure of why you would even ask that other than to prop up a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:15 PM
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I don't think feminists should claim that their goal is equality for all genders. But they do. I do think men benefit from it but its express purpose is righting inequalities that have existed for women. And what happens when all of those inequalities are righted, yet none of the inequalities men face are righted? Is that how equality happens? Feminists have shut down discussion of men's issues when the message is, "feminism ruined things for men." No, you're either deliberately lying or ignoran…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 04:56 PM
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We don't expect the American Cancer Society to also address heart disease. Bad analogy, because the American Cancer Society doesn't claim to "fight for the eradication of all illness", and then turn around and only attempt to treat Cancer. Feminists do claim to "fight for gender equality for everyone", and then turn around and only try to rectify things where women are disadvantaged. Also, there are lots of examples of feminists shutting down discussion of mens issues - chanting, pulling fire al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 04:27 PM
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So basically you're of the opinion that inconveniences to women count and inconveniences to men don't ("because they're really choices anyway"). There's no point in debating with you because it will always drill down to "thing that isn't good for women counts, thing that isn't good for man doesn't count".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 02:39 PM
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The principle is to why should they have to do it? (a) (Once again) Women take longer to use the bathroom, on average, than men. (b) (As you said yourself) The plumbing for urinals is different than the plumbing for toilets, making it easy to add extra urinals to a men's room, and there isn't an equivalent for women. (c) Okay, so, like you keep saying, it's a small issue. Maybe it's a small enough issue that most women don't really give too much of a fuck about it? And if we look at many of thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 01:33 AM
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Oh, sick burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 12:23 AM
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Also, since you are doing a terrible job of responding, I'll help Dude, I was at work and then I had a massage to do. Chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:19 PM
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The principle which is what, again? That women are inconvenienced sometimes? Why is it that the fact that women have to wait in line to piss is an issue, to you, that deserves attention and should be worked to be rectified, yet the fact that men are four times more likely to be murdered and three times more likely to be assaulted somehow passes under your radar? Why is it only ever issues where women aren't ahead that get any attention from you, regardless of severity?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:52 PM
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I gathered your dislike for women and feminism from your reaction to my comment Feminism != women. Disliking feminism != disliking women. Just keep those false accusations of misogyny coming though, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:38 PM
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Guys like you are a big part of why people don't respect feminism. First off, you think you're somehow superior to other men "because you see women as equals, and every other guy hates women". Except that, in reality, the vast supermajority of men see women as equals and don't hate women. You're just stuck in this pathetic little fantasy where you're the One Good Man. So you make up ridiculous bullshit like women being oppressed by the fact that they sometimes have to wait in a longer line for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:32 PM
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If you eliminated your hatred for women from your mind for a second and think about it. HHAHAHA. Oh man. I needed a good laugh like that. Really, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:27 PM
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Could it be sometimes, in some situations, they have less stalls and men's washroom's have more urinals? Are you fucking seriously suggesting that there's a conspiracy to give men more places to shit than women. Really, seriously, you think people designing public bathrooms are thinking "Hm, we'd better put more stalls in the men's room because men are more important than women." Is that seriously a thought that has crossed your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:16 PM
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Why do rest rooms have longer wait lines? Because women take longer to use the bathroom than men, for fuck sake. This is the kind of nonissue shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 06:51 PM
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Well, sure, everybody isn't a complete sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:05 PM
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Hard work in school would bring me success in life - especially financial success. I was told again and again that if I just studied really hard and put in a ton of effort I'd get the grades I needed and be on the path to success. In reality, I found that, more than anything, cramming, abusing drugs and cheating were the best ways to get the grades one wanted. On top of that I found that hard work didn't actually get you very far in the professional world. This is exactly what I came into the th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 04:18 PM
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Here's the problem with "nice guys": they don't understand that everybody is an asshole. Everybody. Men, women, nonbinary, doesn't matter, everybody is an asshole. So they hear women complain about their asshole boyfriends, and they think "Gee whiz, I'd never be an asshole like that. I'd be so enamored with her for the rest of my life that I'd never act like such a jerk." Which is easy to think when you're not even in the honeymoon phase of a relationship. They're in the honeymoon phase of the h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 04:15 PM
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Any reason anyone wants to break up with anyone is a valid reason, full stop. A lot of people are going to think it's a silly or stupid reason, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 10:12 PM
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My point is your claim that there are millions and billions of "entitled nice guys" out there is bullshit, because you only come to that conclusion by applying the label to every guy who is anything less than ecstatically happy with his current love life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 01:59 PM
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There are a lot of "redpill tactics". Get in shape, wear nice clothes, have hobbies, don't be clingy work on pretty much everybody (man or woman). Be vaguely mean, refuse to commit, treat women like teenagers, wont work on everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 01:57 PM
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Those are literally two examples which literally reflect the literal double standard literally common in literal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 01:55 PM
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There's a big difference between being friends with someone and having sex with someone. This guy got the same advice when he started having feelings for his FWB - tell her, and if it's not reciprocated, break it off because it can get messy and end up hurting the person with unreturned feelings. So in the case of a FWB situation where the guy starts to want a relationship, he should break it off if the feeling isn't reciprocated. In the case of a FWB situation where the woman starts to want a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 01:42 PM
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It usually goes something like this: Girl: I wish someone would tell me I'm beautiful. Boy: I think you're beautiful. Girl: You don't count. I wish someone would tell me I'm beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 01:24 PM
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I suspect were the OP a woman writing about how her "friend" who she knows has feelings for her keeps giving her money and doing her favors she'd get much of the same advice. Especially if she were to keep insisting that she didn't want to end the friendship because she really, really likes all the free money and that it's his responsibility to end things if it bothers him so much. She'd be called a heartless, entitled bitch....and that would be accurate. Right, except, in those situations, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 01:17 PM
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It's really nice when somebody gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 09:41 PM
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There are plenty of entitled "nice guys" and "nice girls", but there are plenty others who are just socially and romantically inept. Okay, lets assume that's the case. Do you think it's incorrect to say that many of the latter group are unfairly labeled as the former, especially in communities specifically created around the idea of "entitled nice guys/girls"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 12:08 PM
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And 100% of the guys on r/niceguys and r/neckbeardthings never said "I am entitled to sex because I am nice." But, of course, I forget. YOU can observe implications without explicit statements, but god forbid anyone do the same to you, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 11:54 AM
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If it's irrelevant to our discussion, maybe you shouldn't have brought him up as though he's a shining example of how men are all misogynists. Anyway, on the "nice guys" thing, all I see in those subs are guys who are bitter about rejection and projecting. Which, yeah, is a shitty thing to do, but no more so than the fat woman who says "Guys just cant handle a real woman," or the older woman who says "Men feel intimidated by me because they want some 18 year old they can impress," or the studiou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 11:29 AM
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. I don't know why you find the ratio of the genders of his victims relevant, Because, after the shootings, feminists were screaming "SEE, WOMEN HAVE TO FEAR FOR OUR LIVES EVERY DAY, WOMEN ARE SO UNSAFE" - despite the fact that, again, he killed more men than women. Meaning, using him as an example, men should be more afraid for their lives than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 11:16 AM
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Elliot Rodger, the guy who killed more men than women, you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 02:32 AM
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Can you show me a direct quote of a guy saying "I am entitled to sex for being a nice guy", or "Women should have sex with me because I'm nice to them"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 02:17 AM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 02:57 PM
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Calling children that would get the police called on me pretty quickly lol. Also, good point: If I'm mean to women I'm a misogynist, and if I'm nice to women I'm condescending and treating them like children.. and therefore misogynist!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 02:39 PM
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Doesn't RP teach that once women hit "the wall" and are no longer competed for, they are willing to settle for less attractive partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 02:29 PM
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I'll be the judge of that, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 01:53 AM
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Are you confusing cause and effect? You seem to be arguing that our "men compete for women, women approach women accept/reject" structure comes from women being pickier than men. But what if it's the other way around, that the structure causes women to be more picky/men to be less picky?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 11:45 PM
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Of course not, sugar. You weren't being rude or dismissive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 11:24 PM
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So does it apply to men? Yes, yes it does. However, society warns women that men are all rapists and abusers so there's no need to harp on it Even when they aren't assuming all men are rapists and abusers, people are still pulling AMALT. Shit, if I had a dollar for every time I've heard "Guys only care about one thing", or "Men are simple creatures", etc, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 10:56 PM
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women didnt create feminism, men did Explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 10:43 PM
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lol So now a woman has to be "in power" to have said it? No fucking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 10:34 PM
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No, women legitimately use it as a defense for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 10:25 PM
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He's not a misogynist any more than he's a misandrist. The only difference is whiney feminists claiming that being an asshole to a woman is different than being an asshole to a man (because they believe in equality, ya know).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 10:02 PM
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I'd respect the whole "Don't blame women's actions on their periods" thing if women didn't also turn around and do the "You can't hold that against me, I was on my period!" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 10:00 PM
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Take out "women" and replace it with "society" for MGTOW and MRA. TRP seems more or less right though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 09:07 PM
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Of course, anyone going this route should expect a cunty reply, something along the lines of "I guess you just weren't good enough for me."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 06:07 PM
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So when women say they feel objectified, feel disrespected, feel discriminated against, feel unsafe, feel uncomfortable, feel used, or feel violated.. ...that's just their feelings and not objective reality, yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 06:04 PM
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If Carl Underwood wrote a song about destroying his girlfriends car because he suspects she's cheating on him? Come the fuck on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:18 PM
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How can issues that affect persons who identity as men be discussed without it turning into the misogynistic cesspool that r/menslib has become and r/theredpill always has been? Any discussion of men's issues will be labeled misogynistic. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:14 PM
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That women are always victims, even when they are acting. When men abuse women, women are victims. When women abuse men, they must simply be fighting back, or were pushed (by the man of course) to the point of breaking, so women are the real victims. When men slut shame women, women are victims. When women slut shame women, the shamed women and the women doing the shaming are victims (the latter being victims of internalized misogyny). When men kill women, women are victims. When women kill men,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 06:13 PM
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You've never heard "what about teh menz" from feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 05:17 PM
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So general discussion is fine, but not specific manifestations of sexism? You're not making yourself sound any better. Still just sounds like a rationalization of a double standard. What the hell are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 04:52 PM
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By talking about traditional gender roles, no. By framing everything as "men did this to women", "women are the victims of internalized misogyny", "it's just the patriarchy backfiring"... yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 04:40 PM
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Right. But these highly oppressed women attack police officers as though they expect no consequences to come to them.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/08/15 03:48 PM
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As a guy, I would never even consider raising a fist to a police officer like that. I wouldn't need to plan out my legal rights and responsibilities, I just know that hitting or threatening a cop means I go to jail for a long fucking time.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/08/15 01:38 PM
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Indeed. Feminists claim to fight traditional gender roles, but their entire movement is based on traditional gender roles. TGRs treat women as objects, robing them of agency. Feminists claim that all of human history has been men oppressing women - in other words, men have acted and women have had no agency. TGRs say men should be stoic and self sacrificing. Any man who disagrees with feminism is called a whiner, a bitch, a pussy, or a child - feminists tell men to 'man up' and sacrifice for wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 12:07 PM
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It seems to serve the purposes of terpers to view women as inferior, as many of them are trying to get over the pedestalization/intimidation feelings they had/have toward women. Add to that the fact that most people can't tell the difference between "I am confident in myself" and "I think you are inferior to me", and it makes some sense as a conditional imperative; "If you want to bed more women, then you should think of them as inferior".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 12:00 PM
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It's not a bargaining chip. Because the man can get sex from woman B if he doesn't get it from woman A hahahahahaha. Oh, man. Thank you. Needed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 01:21 PM
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Because the entire dating scene is based on men having to prove themselves worthy of women, therefore women have little need to improve themselves or their interactions with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 11:58 AM
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Shit just makes me shake my head. Treating women worse than men = misogynistic. Treating women better than men = misogynistic. Treating women equal to men = misogynistic. There's literally no way to win! Yay!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 11:54 AM
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So why is it assumed that women's primary concern at work is whether or not some male colleague compliments them? First, complements don't always have to be about looks. Being surrounded by people who are trying to win your favor usually results in all kinds of compliments (could be your looks, or your work, or your knowledge base, etc), and general favors and preferential treatment. I imagine the argument isn't so much that women are saying "oh no, these guys aren't telling me I'm hot," so much…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 11:47 AM
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Feminist discourse breeds misandry and hatred. This. You can't blame a group of people for all of the problems in the world and not develop a hatred toward that group.
/r/MensRights31/07/15 02:12 PM
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True. But the "this is the only place I can say these things" feeling is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:17 AM
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And now it's even longer. Thanks Obama!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 11:49 PM
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This is a really good comment and applies to me, somewhat. I don't officially identify as redpill or MRA, but I do make a lot of anti-feminist arguments. I do so on here a lot because I can't do so in pretty much any other space. Meanwhile, I remember being on a college campus and having two girls come up and offer to record me talking about why I need feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 11:37 PM
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I don't think it's possible to feel a certain way about half of the population. I have a range of emotions towards different women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 11:34 PM
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I can't list them all because MRAs recognize that men and women face all kinds of problems? If you're asking if MRAs recognize that women face problems specific to them being women (such as discrimination in certain jobs, social expectations, likelihood of unwanted sexual attention), then, yes, many MRA's do. However, they tend to look at those problems in context rather than use those problems to fuel the narrative that ONLY women face problems specific to their gender or that the problems wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 11:22 PM
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magotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 11:19 PM
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Good talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 11:10 PM
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FGM? In the United States, no. Wage Gap? As it's been presented, no. Domestic violence/sexual assault? As it's been presented, no. Of course MRAs acknowledge problems women face. However, they see them as largely exaggerated and manipulated. Ask any MRA if he or she thinks a woman being raped is a real problem, they will all say yes. Ask an MRA if they think there is a rape epidemic and women live their whole lives in constant and perpetual fear of rape, they'll say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 11:09 PM
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Can't argue with life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 10:24 PM
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Why on earth would you come up with a word for something unless you thought there was some special reason to do so? And if someone were to question that reason, wouldn't you have to defend your definition as having merit? To go with your analogy, if I say god doesn't exist, and you say "God does exist, see, god is defined as the creator of all things, and since things exist, god must exist!" Much in the same way feminists start out assuming that men are sexist, cherrypick examples of people bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 10:18 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 10:06 PM
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So our discussion isn't about arguments for the existence of it, but about it's definition/usage. Doesn't the definition rest upon the arguments for its existence?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 10:05 PM
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Not only is our discussion not about arguments for the existence of mansplaining Well, I said the term exists to imply that only men condescend, and you questioned that assertion, so.. I thought that was exactly what our argument was about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 09:59 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 09:52 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 09:49 PM
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Because it's more of the same circular logic we always get from feminists. Of course men being condescending to women is sexist (but women being condescending to men isn't). So of course we need a special word for it, because it's totally different, because it's sexist, because we assume sexism is everywhere (but only against women). Isn't it neat how it all works out like that? We just have to start with an assumption and then pretend like only the things that fit our assumptions exist, and our…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 09:42 PM
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Mansplaining differs somewhat from many other forms of condescension since it is specifically a gender-related form of condescension and is rooted in a sexist assumption which assumes that a man will normally be more knowledgeable, or more capable of understanding many matters, than a woman So, because feminists assume that it's sexist, it's sexist. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 09:37 PM
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Well, my claim is that the term is used to imply that being condescending is somehow unique to men. Your claim is that my claim is incorrect, that the term is merely used to distinguish men being condescending, because it's different. In order to back up your claim, you're going to have to make an argument as to why it's different. Otherwise, your claim falls flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 08:52 PM
1

Okay. How is it unlike the other kinds?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 08:42 PM
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And what exactly is the point being made, which requires such rhetorical precision?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 08:39 PM
1

And the need to distinguish it from other kinds of condescension comes from....?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 08:35 PM
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If the point isn't to imply that only men do it, why have a special word for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 08:26 PM
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-.-
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 08:10 PM
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Am I to believe that isn't the implication? Are you a Nigerian prince?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 07:56 PM
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Why not? Why would it be wrong to compare circumcision to the removal of the clitoral hood?
/r/MensRights30/07/15 06:45 PM
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Which part are you asking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 06:43 PM
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So you're saying that if more men were unable to handle it, men would get treated like shit less?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 05:02 PM
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I asked if there are laws against infant genital mutilation, not fucking elective surgeries.
/r/MensRights30/07/15 03:31 PM
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And there's literally elective circumcision. What's your point?
/r/MensRights30/07/15 03:27 PM
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But all forms of FGM are outlawed, from completely removing the clitoris to a ceremonial pinprick. If all forms of FGM are outlawed, shouldn't all forms of MGM also be outlawed, regardless of severity?
/r/MensRights30/07/15 03:09 PM
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So lets compare apples to apples - circumcision to surgical removal of the clitoral hood. Think people would be okay with it if essentially the same thing was being done to baby girls? Would you? Would there be laws against it? Are there?
/r/MensRights30/07/15 03:07 PM
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It's hardly sensible to create terms based on specific examples of general situations, though. Try it with literally any other group besides men and it becomes plainly obvious that it's a shitty thing to do. I'm pretty fit, but I was fat growing up. I've had fat people tell me all about what it's like being fat, without realizing I've had all of the same experiences. Were they fatsplaining? Sometimes Latino people are criminals, is it "Latinocrime" they're committing? Or does creating a specific…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:48 PM
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lol. Alright, alright, well played. Still think you're wrong though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:43 PM
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Right. That's a very strong argument you've made there, I immediately retract my previous statements and thank you for enlightening me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:41 PM
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LOL what? You're trying to act like you're somehow superior because the phrase "womansplaining" doesn't bother you, ignoring the actual context of the words "mansplaining" and "womansplaining"? How was that not obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:38 PM
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I love how it's okay to be shitty toward men because men "can handle it". And if men can't handle it? Well, they're weak and therefore not real men!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:37 PM
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I don't know. Why have a special term for anything? Cool. I'm white, so now, whenever a black person is rude to me, I'm gonna call it "negrudeness". Cause, see, even though people of all races can be rude to people of all races, when black people are rude to white people, it's a special kind of rudeness that deserves its own name. Sound good? I don't see why not. I've actually seen the word "womansplaining" before. Didn't hurt my feelings. To put the difference in context, google "mansplaining" …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:33 PM
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But why have a special term for it when a man does it to a woman? If a woman does it to a man, is it "womansplaining"? How about blacksplaining, or fatsplaining, or transplaining? Why should men be singled out for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:22 PM
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It's feminist horseshit. It's taking something that people of every sex and gender identity do and pretending it's something only men do. You think a woman has never explained something to a man, only to find that he was actually an expert in the field? You think women are never fucking condescending to men? If so, I'd call you retarded but that would be offensive to the retarded. Same goes for "manspreading", "manslamming", and everything else dipshit feminists put "man" in front of.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:19 PM
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Right? Of course OP just pulls out some bullshit to 'splain why it's not harassment. "Cuz, uh, see, he smiled! He totally wanted it" Whereas, reverse the genders, and a man yells "hey sexy" at a woman and she smiles and blinks, now the argument becomes "She was probably just smiling to be polite! She was probably in fear for her life and thought smiling was the only way to keep him from raping and killing her! A smile doesn't mean consent!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 12:30 PM
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Yeah, that happens a lot. Mostly it's about setting the right mood/tone when you and she are together - ask a lot of "get to know you" questions (because you're just making conversation, of course), get her to laugh, sprinkle in a few compliments here and there (make sure they're honest), etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 11:08 AM
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Well, yes and no. You can't just start out with "hey, I'm interested in a relationship, wanna go on a date?" Puts them on the spot, they don't like it much. You need to find excuses to spend time with her - of course it's just a group thing, no pressure, hey, since we're both going I can give you a ride, okay? Stuff like that. You need to make the transition from acquaintance to relationship just obvious enough that she doesn't just think of you as a friend and just subtle enough that you both m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:04 AM
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So a woman decides to punch a man in the face during an argument. Does it make more sense to (a) assume she's forgotten that men are told not to hit women, and also that he's more likely to get in trouble for hitting her. That she totally accepts the possibility that she'll go to jail for assaulting someone, and that she totally accepts the possibility that he will hit her back. or (b) She has all of the above in mind and is expecting that she can punch him without any consequences to her at all…
/r/PussyPassDenied29/07/15 06:25 PM
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Does a woman really have to verbally say "I can do this because I'm a woman" for it to be a pussypass?
/r/PussyPassDenied29/07/15 06:03 PM
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Nice to know the definition of rape has expanded to a police officer apprehending someone. Not that feminists ever call something rape when it isn't, ever.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/07/15 02:55 PM
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Clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 01:56 PM
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Well, when you've done every possible mental backflip and reframing of issues to always come to the conclusion that men are evil oppressors and women are helplessly oppressed, the suggestion that a member of the oppressed class should be kind, respectful, or generous toward a member of the oppressor class is horribly offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 12:01 PM
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See, here's why I keep coming closer and closer to just giving up on feminists entirely: Y'all don't speak fucking English. You've created this entirely new language, built on bullshit hijacked definitions based on your own theories. So, of course you're right, given that you use the definitions you've come up with to insulate yourself from ever being wrong. Take your claim, that feminism is the movement to end sexism. That sounds great, given the definition of sexism that everyone else uses - d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:51 AM
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Hm, that's a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 12:18 AM
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That's a very subjective definition of the NiceguyTM trope and not at all universal. I see it as more of a guy who fakes being nice to try and get female attention but just winds up a despised sycophant. And the governing body which prevents feminists from unfairly applying the moniker to men who are not, in fact, faking being nice is...? Oh, right. There is none. So a Nice Guy is a guy who does this specific thing, which any guy can be accused of, and if he disagrees with the label it just prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 06:19 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 06:17 PM
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Because the entire concept of "nice guysTM" is an example of how feminists will paint men as villains in any situation? By accusing any man who expresses sadness or frustration at a lack of romantic partners as "entitlement" and "rapey"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 04:45 PM
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..you, you've never heard of Nice GuysTM? Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 04:25 PM
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Probably true, in part. However, it's not as though women (or men) were intentionally giving bad advice. It's just what was considered polite to do - someone is already feeling bad enough, it's not the right time to say "Well, you're fat and you smell bad"; you're supposed to say "Just be yourself and the right one will find you!" But being polite or kind to men is the feminist equivalent to being a supplicating house negro, so of course they took (and take) every opportunity to attack men, espe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:26 PM
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I was thinking earlier about how feminism is responsible for TRP. There have always been unattractive people on both ends of the gender spectrum (and everywhere in between). Generally, it was considered polite to blame it on the people around them, in an (albeit transparent) attempt to bolster the person's self confidence. So, a woman complains that all the men around her fall for her skinnier, prettier friends. People tell her that the men around her are just shallow and superficial, that she's…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:17 PM
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Right. Same way she had an obligation to call EMS services when she saw him. Wait, no, he was a creep for asking for water when he was about to fucking pass out from dehydration.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 07:56 PM
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ITT: People agreeing that a woman with a water hose has no obligation to give a man close to passing out from dehydration a sip of water, yet men have an obligation to put themselves in direct physical danger if they see something bad happening to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 06:52 PM
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Oh, no, sorry, meant to reply to MrsPound111
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 05:02 PM
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Just because YOU acted creepy doesn't mean tht you get to bring "justice" to all women by not helping a woman when she's being raped. "you don't get to not help a woman when she's being raped" Do men "get to" not help a man if that man is being raped, assaulted, tortured, etc? Do women "get to" not help men if they see a man in danger or being attacked?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 04:47 PM
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You can't punish a randon woman because you approached another and out of intimidation she didn't want to help you. How is it punishment for him not to step in? Is he obligated to put himself in danger?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 04:44 PM
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But men being overrepresented simply must be because of a predisposition for violence, certainly not systemic sexism. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 02:23 PM
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I'm not RP, but I'll throw in one example I've seen: Feminine communication tends to value feelings and cooperation over directness or frankness. I've noticed that, nowadays, when someone on a work team makes a mistake (or consistently makes the same mistake), instead of directly telling the person clearly known to be making the mistake, a meeting will be called for everyone to get a lecture about the mistake and how/why not to make it. It's unnecessary for the majority of the work team, but it …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 11:12 AM
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The reason that men are more likely to be detained for sexual assault is because men are more likely to rape/ physically abuse women than women are men. This is a really good point except for the fact that it's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 12:44 PM
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If women are valued more than men, why are sons valued more than daughters? Because it's more advantageous for any particular group to have people around who have been or will be groomed to sacrifice for others rather than groomed to enjoy the benefits of the sacrifice of another.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 01:49 AM
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Which is to constantly complain and play the victim?
/r/MensRights22/07/15 12:09 AM
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You can miss being robbed because it reminds you of having money. No, you miss having money. Even working with your analogy here, the person who misses being targeted for theft because they outwardly appear wealthy would quickly and regularly admit that wealth has a lot of advantages. What she's doing is acting like the rich person who NEVER admits that they have advantages in being wealthy, only ever talks about how hard their life is (being rich sucks you guys, people try to rob me all the tim…
/r/MensRights21/07/15 03:48 AM
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“The attacks were worse on Ellen because she is a woman" I love how dipshits attribute everything bad that happens to a woman on her gender, then use that arbitrary attribution as proof of sexism.
/r/MensRights11/07/15 04:45 PM
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No. That was the dude I was arguing with. lol
/r/MensRights09/07/15 06:47 PM
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But, gasp, that person I physically threatened, kneed in the genitals, and punched in the face retaliated. Oh woe is me, the poor victim I am!
/r/MensRights09/07/15 06:36 PM
1

What the fuck are people talking about race for? This is bizarre.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 06:35 PM
1

I don't hate women at all. Just bullies.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 02:54 PM
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What the fuck does race have to do with this shit? You just keep making more excuses for this poor delicate little flower - he invaded her space! She had to put her arm up IN A FUCKING FIST! It was "construed" as a threatening position! Also, you don't think women should be allowed to vote. Wow. It's like you're exactly wrong on every possible issue related to gender.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 01:00 AM
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She had her arm up in a defensive position, yes, but that could indicate a number of things. If someone does something that could "indicate a number of things", and one of those things, reasonably, is that they are about to assault another person, then the person who thinks they are about to be assaulted has a right to defend themselves. Pissy white knights like yourself making excuses doesn't change anything - she thought she was a hard ass, she INTENTIONALLY put her FIST up in order to threate…
/r/MensRights09/07/15 12:39 AM
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Hey maybe we can meet up and I can put my fist up in your face the way hers was in his? Sound good to you? No? Sound like you'd feel threatened? Then shut the fuck up.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 12:14 AM
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Don't fuck women in college. Ever. Don't fuck SJWs, ever.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 01:48 AM
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Seriously, sometimes I just want to go to the NBA or NFL or WWE and start throwing punches at some of the 6'8" 260 lb guys. "OH MY GOD YOU CAN'T HIT ME BACK YOU'RE BIGGER AND STRONGER THAN ME!!" Anybody think that shit would fly for a guy to do it?
/r/PussyPassDenied29/06/15 09:58 AM
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Motte and Bailey feminism But you repeat yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 11:11 PM
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