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CMVidrinkapplejuice42/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:42 AM
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idrinkapplejuice42/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:48 AM
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idrinkapplejuice42/r/TheRedPill15/01/22 05:25 AM
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CMVidrinkapplejuice42/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:56 PM
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CMVidrinkapplejuice42/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 09:45 PM
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idrinkapplejuice42/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:48 AM
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CMVidrinkapplejuice42/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:43 PM
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Scienceidrinkapplejuice42/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 06:19 AM
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discussionidrinkapplejuice42/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/21 09:33 PM
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Discussionidrinkapplejuice42/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 03:30 AM
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CMVidrinkapplejuice42/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:27 AM
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Conversationidrinkapplejuice42/r/seduction03/09/21 05:49 AM
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Discussionidrinkapplejuice42/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 06:23 PM
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Discussionidrinkapplejuice42/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 03:14 AM
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Question For Menidrinkapplejuice42/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 01:00 AM
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Removed: Specific Situation / post on r/asksedditidrinkapplejuice42/r/seduction03/06/21 10:33 AM
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idrinkapplejuice42/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:19 PM
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Question For Womenidrinkapplejuice42/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 08:01 AM
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Conversationidrinkapplejuice42/r/seduction28/08/21 12:16 AM
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Watch these girls get themselves into abusive relationships cause they like this stuff. Theyll end up miserable. Hold out and find somebody that appreciates you for who you are. Dont compromise on this stuff. Look at the Will Smith situation. Will felt that he needed to be the tough guy to please his wife, and he's humiliated himself as a result. It sounds like you have a good understanding of what violence really is and how far it can go. These women don't.
/r/seduction03/04/22 06:32 PM
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This was my normal experience. Most women aren't going to be straightforward with you. Get used to it.
/r/seduction12/03/22 11:51 PM
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I agree, but I think that some rp guys take this to mean that male promiscuity is fine but female promiscuity is wrong. Its not just you, its a general sentiment Ive seen. I think anybody else that wants to be in a healthy relationship however should recognize promiscuity as a negative for both sexes.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/22 09:46 AM
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Why excuse men cheating though. Why not oppose both?
/r/TheRedPill10/02/22 03:58 AM
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Im so sorry about the abuse. I cant imagine how horrible that must have been. Do you cut people out simply because they know about you or because you feel that they dint understand. I personally struggle with opening up to people only to feel like they dont understand me at all, at which point i feel contempt for them and lose all desire to talk to them. But personally its not about people knowing about me.... its about them knowing about me and not understanding me.
/r/MenSupportMen07/02/22 08:58 AM
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Whats the time span that this should happen over? Days? Weeks? Ive noticed that Ive had some interest from women with this catch and release idea, although ime women never chase... at least they never chase me. So this only works in a context where I know Ill see the girl again simply because were in the same place at the same time.
/r/seduction05/02/22 11:19 PM
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Little bit yeah. Its hard to get past it.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/22 04:43 AM
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Yeah I agree, I think its just because youre meeting a ton of people very quickly so these things play out out much faster than in the working world.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/22 01:57 AM
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I think youre reading into something that I didnt write. Ive danced for years at this point and am pretty intermediate. Im not doen on myself about my skills. And women aren't my priority with dance, but it's probably second after actually improving my dancing.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/22 12:40 AM
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Weak men destroy themselves.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/22 10:57 PM
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Couples that have kids and separate cause "theyre just not feeling it anymore", or want something "more exciting" are trash. Once you have kids you dont get to just walk away except in extreme cases of abuse and such.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/22 10:55 PM
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Body fat percentage is only one part of fitness. I was probably under 15% in my teenage years and got a lot of comments about being too skinny. I had no muscle mass. Looking like a holocaust surviver isnt attractive to women. Looking strong is.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/22 09:05 PM
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I think youre missing a the point. Im realizing that places like these are sexualized. That everywhere is sexualized. That you cant really escape the paradigm.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/22 10:04 AM
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Imo getting a better woman comes down to values. Getting a prettier woman depends on having better style, working out, being flashy, confident etc. But I dont think that stuff will get you a "good girl" that vomes down to actually having values that alugn with said good girl. But Idk.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/22 06:14 AM
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Black guys will go to jail to fight a dude that calls then a n*gger but will let a girl call him that in bed. Stop letting them get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 03:44 AM
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Women have no shame or self awareness about these things. They have countless rationalizations. You will never get a woman to admit that shes a hypocrite about this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 03:35 AM
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Not always. Ive met hot girls that are just introverted homebodies. They dont realize how hot they are because they dont put themselves in social situations where guys would ask them out often enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:43 PM
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Are there any optimistic incel communities? I consider myself an incel but Im kinda sick of all the negativity in incel or incellike communities. At the same time Im annoyed with other places that dont acknowledge that there is anything bad about being unwanted sexually and romantically. I wish there were somewhere that incels could chat about like their goals or what gets them through the day and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:02 PM
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Real incels are people that use /r/foreveralone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:46 PM
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Libertarian incels ftw
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:45 PM
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I think a lot of incels are actually guys that are not manipulative or pushy with women. I sorta consider myself an incel and all the time I see guys being a little pushy with girls that arent into them, and I just cant bring myself to act that way myself. I often wonder if I just was more assertive and made more moves if I would have lost my virginity by now. I really think a lot of incels are incels because theyre reserved and not assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:45 PM
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Cuckoldry
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:53 PM
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This is obviously the case, but of course as usual they must choose the least charitable interpretation in order to strawman what I am saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:58 AM
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Maybe I phrased it poorly. I mean that conveying that I might have any sort of trouble with women or that I might be insecure generally makes women less attracted to me. And most any guy on this sub can attest to having a similar experience. Im not saying that I post on here to be more attractive to women. Thats absurd. Rather Im saying that if I want to be attractive to women I have to actively suppress my emotions and thoughts around any of this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:56 AM
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Being a whore is a pretty bid deal breaker. Trying to talk about other qualities is like trying to sell me on a boat with a hole in the bottom but telling me about how perfect it is in other ways. Im not gonna buy a boat with a hole in it. Im not gonna date a slut. Idc how well you try to dress it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:58 AM
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The more you say the less youre understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:54 AM
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This is gross
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:51 AM
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Its the opposite. Id never publicly shame women for promiscuity except for maybe a daughter. But I would never consider a promiscuous woman for a relationship. Its best to be nonjudgmental though so that women will be honest with you. The more judgement you exude the less honesty you will receive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:51 AM
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Thats what self respecting men do. Then they get asked why they dont have more female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:34 AM
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None of this matters if you cant get the girl to come over to your place in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:09 PM
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Men are more disagreeable than women on average which is an important leadership quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 08:56 PM
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What is in a name? The rejection of labels does not nullify the structure onto which they map.
/r/seduction30/12/21 04:28 AM
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Women in the comments I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 11:57 PM
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I think you have to understand this in a more general sense. Shes rooting for a man to meet her standards, but she doesnt know who thats going to be yet. Shes not rooting for unattractive men. She rooting for men to not be unattractive.
/r/seduction25/12/21 07:24 PM
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Theyre still trying to gaslight us on this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 06:47 PM
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Yo get out
/r/MensRights23/12/21 05:59 PM
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Ive lurked for a while and Ive had posts do well on here. I dont even know what the difference between a rant and an argument is. And idk why men cant ask men questions especially since half the people here think men and women are interchangeable and there is no difference between the male and female experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 04:12 AM
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This is a good point. I need to focus on this more. Making women feel. I think women will overlook you if you cant make them feel anything. This is so obvious when you say it but Its easy for me to forget.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 04:06 AM
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Man u really hate my posts dont you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 04:04 AM
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Ur conflating the red pill with the black pill. Red pill would agree that personality and demeanor are important to attraction as well. Black pill believes that physical attractiveness is what ptimarily important. This shows though that women dont just want a sweet nice guy though. He has a fine personality. Hes not a creep. But its not enough. Being an agreeable nice guy isnt enough to get you girls even if youve got the looks as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 04:04 AM
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Chad lite. Step below chad. But hes an attractive guy making above average money for his age with an interesting life. That puts him pretty high in the hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 03:27 AM
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How do this sub still not understand the red pill lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 03:25 AM
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Im genderfluid
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 01:36 AM
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The Jordan peterson comment is a non sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 01:13 AM
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What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 01:11 AM
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You do it a couple times and its just constant rejection. People would rather play games that they have a chance at winning than one they lose every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 12:50 AM
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More women reproduced relative to men by a factor of 2. Nobody understands the significance of this.
/r/seduction20/12/21 10:49 PM
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Fair point. I forgot which sub this was.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/21 01:37 AM
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I just read the intro and wtf... How do ypu know me? This is so niche how does it have so many upvotes?
/r/seduction19/12/21 01:35 AM
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How do you have liberal, progressive and socialist as three different categories then right wing as one? No libertarian? This sucks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/21 01:00 AM
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Exactly. I hope we dont to regress to the point men and women not being able to interact with eachother in public. Sometimes it seems like thats what some women want though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 10:58 PM
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Pretty women that have trouble getting male attention are usually introverts and home bodies in my experience. The best thing you can do is put yourself in environments where men are comfortable being social and approaching. Go to bars, join clubs, get a hobby that takes place in a social setting etc. If you do this youll 100% get guys asking you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:07 PM
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I sorta agree. I realized at 21 that girls my age were dating 5 yrs older, whereas I couldn't really date 5 yrs younger. This doesnt really make it any less frustrating though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 12:04 AM
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In 2018 28% of men 18-30 reported having no sex within the past year. It was 18% for women. So roughly 50% more likely for men to be sexless than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:27 AM
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I think you probably understand this but, the average men does not have degree, and does not qork in stem/finance. Though women likely see these guys as average they are indeed likely above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 12:15 AM
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Its like 30% of young men that havent had sex in the past year. Im sure if you like at how many have had sex one time or less in the past year the number is over 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 12:07 AM
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Honestly once a month seems like a lot if you're single
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 12:00 AM
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Whoda thunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:19 PM
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Bot?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:14 PM
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Apparently Im not compatible with most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:13 PM
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Wow, glad to see a woman that understands this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:11 PM
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Why do people get married if not to have children?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:59 PM
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How do i get them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:03 AM
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I think thats honestly pretty high level. Its hard to make that shift mentally. You kinda have to not care about the girl to begin with. I think youre right but its hard to do that properly.
/r/seduction13/12/21 02:59 AM
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Changing their mind is a rare occurrence.
/r/seduction13/12/21 01:07 AM
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Theres a difference between actual female friends and being in the friendzone. Often times women have no interest in a guy but friendzone them as a guy. Look at actions not words.
/r/seduction12/12/21 11:34 PM
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A little judgement isnt such a bad thing imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:17 PM
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Ive definitely seen women on here say the follow these subs to know what to look out for lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:08 PM
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Not just that. I feel like its hard to have any standards as a guy. I definitely have a shot with obese, mentally unstable, blackout drunk etc women. But i have standards and morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:30 AM
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Its simply an immature way to view relationships with women.when you say you have a crush what youre saying is youre emotionally invested in her without being in a relationship. This will set you up for failure and heartbreak. You gotta play the field. Talk to lots of women that you could see yourself with, then invest emotionally in the ones that invest emotionally in you.
/r/seduction12/12/21 12:49 AM
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But I am though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:16 PM
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Most people in general are bad judges of character. Dont be so sensitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:24 PM
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Most "incels" are technically volcels, especially if you have any sense of morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:44 PM
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Self improvement is still good But at a certain point you have to stop doing it for women and realize there is a higher purpose to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 07:41 AM
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Just depends if she puts herself out there. You can put yourself in a not whorish way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 07:39 AM
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Its like a house. The house has a market value that is dependent on a lot of values. But once you live in a house that youre happy with. The market price doesnt matter that much. It serves a purpose to you that isnt necessarily indicative of the value it would have on an open market.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:18 AM
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Most men are bad judges of character. They chase hot women and maybe secondarily, friendly women. Most men aren't arent capable of judging what is gigh value because they themselves are low value. Real recognize real, you know? So I honestly doubt that "high value" women get any more attention than most women. I imagine they generally get less cause they arent attention whore shaking their ass in the club and posting lewds on ig. Like another commenter said these women are generally married or i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:15 AM
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Half good advice. Ive learned its best to be social with everybody. Other people take note and it makes you more attractive to other women you meet. But i think as a guy its important not to think that if youre friends with a particular woman long enough maybe shell take interest in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:12 AM
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Its not simply a social construct. Its a biological reality that exists cross culturally.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:09 AM
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Try living this out. Respectfully, I am living this life and you have no idea how hard Ive tried to improve myself and put myself in the right environment to meet a girls that will be attracted to me. You dont understand how difficult this is. Its comically easy for young women to get attention, and then they have to just be good at sorting through their options if they want relationship material. Most guys will never experience the level of abundance that the average woman feels. This idea that…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:04 PM
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Women really dont understand that you can be a decent looking guy with hobbies and ok social skills and still be an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:45 PM
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Jordan peterson explains this well. Men on average are slightly more aggressive than women on average, but when you go to the far end of the bell curve you see that men make up a majority of the most aggressive people. And the criminals are the most aggressive people in society generally. Small differences on average lead to large differences at the extremes.
/r/MensRights10/12/21 03:09 AM
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OP is really talking about/criticizing the idea of female sexual empowerment and should have used that word instead of feminism. I myself doubt whether female sexual empowerment has been a positive for most people. Obviously women should have agency over themselves and their bodies, and I suspect that birth control is a positive, but the messaging was that "its ok to be a slut and a sexual deviant that puts pleasure first" is most definitely negative. OPs point is that most men that encourage th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:29 PM
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This is such an important mindset imo. I wonder how many times Ive let myself get upset about a womans treatment towards me that I have no desire for. And though Im a bit insecure about being a virgin, I have to remind myself that that is partially because ive rejected/ignored women that were bad news. Men need to have a spine and not just stick their dick in whatever comes their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:29 PM
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It is sort of monetized. In exchange for her labor she is able to split the fruits of her husbands labor. Like shes not a slave. Shes getting housing, food, entertainment and such paid for. And women make most consumer decisions despite earning less overall, so its not like the woman really has any less freedom than her husband, she likely has a greater say about how money is spent than he does.
/r/MensRights06/12/21 11:54 PM
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This is tough. Imo you should avoid touched ng women you dont have some sort of relationship with. I only will tap a woman on the shoulder if thry cant see or hear me and I need to get their attention. You didnt do anything wrong, but people are often sensitive.
/r/MensRights06/12/21 11:49 PM
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Ive honestly stopped asking girls for their number so often. Youll be surprised how often youll actually get it if you start asking, but I realized it means very little. Youll still get lots of girls that will ghost you or flake or whatever once you have the number. So now I just try to build connection and find a reason to see them in the future before I ask for a number. That means just starting convos and finding common interests thrn use that as a reason to get the number. "Oh youre learning…
/r/seduction06/12/21 10:27 PM
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100%. For example this girl told me about something she was going to do later this week. I checked in and asked how it went over text. She told me and that was that. I don't have anything else to say so Im not gonna drag on the convo. Ive realized its good to show interest over text but let it die out if it's not going anywhere. Show her the guy you could be, but stop being that guy if she doesn't reciprocate.
/r/seduction06/12/21 09:03 PM
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You dont have to go for the number right away. Just start having conversations with lots of people about literally anything.
/r/seduction06/12/21 08:51 PM
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Is this an actual bot? Well hedonism bot is a good name for what youre perpetuating anyways. I never made a value statement regarding women enjoying their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:01 AM
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As long as women are being sexual outside of monogamous relationships they are bound to fuck with dudes outside theyre league. The only antidote for this is monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 09:23 PM
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Yeah seeing some of the comments and posts on here I realize lots of people have no understanding of trp. Its always funny to see somebody say something like, "the red pill worldview is dumb. Men should stop complaining and improve themselves". Like umm yeah thats what trp says lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 01:32 AM
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https://youtu.be/qeYts4AzRUo
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:27 PM
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I think lots of women use this and other techniques naturally without being conscious of it. There is this gaslighting that if men learn the rules of the game and participate in it that they are somehow bad people, meanwhile women are doing these same things all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:22 PM
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Yes. Its a good sign if theyre getting upset tbh. Just be careful not to go too far with it. Super nice and responsive when u do engage with them. Leave them on read when u can. And theyll wonder "he seems like he likes me, so why did he leave me on read?! Should I message him again?"
/r/seduction01/12/21 10:13 PM
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Any women on here watch Alexander Grace? Im curious if anybody here has a legitimate criticism of him. Seems pretty level headed and reasonable imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:50 PM
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This sub is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:41 AM
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Sure. And theres not enough time for me to waste time talking to women that dont reply back time. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:56 PM
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One thing women should consider though is how interested dont you really expect him to be before the first date? Imo its a red flag if somebody is disproportionately interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:54 PM
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People take every general redpill rule and then critique how its not literally true 100% of the time. Like obviously, these things are trends that describe the situation at a macro level. But you will always be able to find anecdotes that do not conform to said trends. The existence of outliers doesnt falsify the overall trend though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:28 PM
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Doesn't really matter. If a girl doesn't have time for me then ill ho find one that does.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:17 AM
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This sub is autistic I swear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 09:00 AM
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I really feel like we should stop talking to women that use this rhetoric.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 03:26 AM
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"Are you gay?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:24 AM
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There are men that want this. Id consider this situation if she cooked and cleaned as well. Imo thats work and if she did that shed be pulling her weight.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 07:24 AM
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As a skinny guy..... Being skinny doesnt help.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:22 AM
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I have to keep this in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:57 PM
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Sorry if this sounds dumb.... But how do you ask a girl out on a date? What things do you usually suggest? Do you use the word date?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:35 PM
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Gives me hope
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:33 PM
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RemindMe! 3 days
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:15 PM
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I've considered this but i don't want to go to church if i don't believe. I'm open minded but idk
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:11 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 05:52 AM
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What if he just wants to get to onow you as a person and have an emotional connection before having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:15 AM
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This is what annoys me. I dont naturally want to be pushy, but now I realize that if Im not somebody else will be. And since most women dont hold out Im likely to lose my shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:13 AM
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Oh ok. He just has to be exactly on your schedule?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:12 AM
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Lol this is my feeling. Can I ask how you pursue women? I think maybe I need to make romantic intentions clear especially if Im not trying to sleep with them right away which ive struggled to do in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:09 AM
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100%. I think most women are fairly inflexible unless shes super invested.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:07 AM
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What if you have guy #2 that you also like that wants to fuck asap though? I wouldnt expect a woman to wait any crazy amount of time. But I want to feel like I know her before fucking her. In my experience though another guy has made his move on a girl when Im still trying to get to know her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:07 AM
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Eh... I know the difference between somebody I have no shot with and somebody I do. Absolutely there are women that I have been interested in that werent interested in me and so they just fucked around. But ive also had specific cases of women i know I have a shot with and another guy just makes his move first.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:04 AM
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Can you link me to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 07:51 PM
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Exactly. Im kinda in disbelief that people think 90% of children in the past came from rape. Idk if theres any research on this specifically, but it seems to me that if rape were super widespread in the past then men would have had a greater contribution to the gene pool. Men that werent able to get sex consensually would rape and I think that there would be less variability in male reproductive success.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 07:51 PM
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Its hard to accept.
/r/MensRights26/11/21 09:01 AM
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Read the article. It explains the math.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 07:13 AM
5

Lots of people actually deny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 07:12 AM
-5

Im not blaming women. Im just stating a fact. Rape accounts for some of this but women are selective maters. Its not as if this is 100% accounted for by rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 07:12 AM
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I didnt blame anybody for anything. Just stating facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 07:10 AM
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This is an interesting way to put it. I think youre right. In my experience women just have no idea how they themselves would deal with mens problems, so you putting your problems out there is just making women shoulder emotions that she doesnt know how to deal with. I've told women my feelings just to end up comforting them about my own problems. Its almost funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 12:02 AM
1

How do I copy with this? I've always tried to be open with my thoughts and feelings. It's hard for me to want to be around people that i can't be open with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 06:21 PM
1

What a coincidence you posted this...
/r/seduction22/11/21 08:19 AM
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Can be but not necessarily. Shes getting fucked by one guy hoping itll turn into a relationship while using another guy for emotional connection and attention without putting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:37 PM
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Read this girls comments. Shes putting out for another dude hoping if she keeps fucking hell commit and shes perfectly happy to lead this other guy on with no sex. This is prime red pill content. AF/BB. Like bruh....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:05 PM
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Why are you fucking the other dude then? Cant you just like eachother and be happy with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:04 PM
2

Honestly Ive had ok success just brushing it off. Dont try to justify yourself. Just pretend its not even an issue and move on to the next point of conversation.
/r/seduction20/11/21 01:12 AM
3

Like fr in a bar environment where you likely are two minutes into a conversation?
/r/seduction20/11/21 01:09 AM
1

Im not trying to be rude or anything. I mostly agree with your post. I just wonder how you cope. Like do you have any outlet to be vulnerable or honest? I have trouble with that.
/r/seduction18/11/21 07:11 AM
5

How do you cope?
/r/seduction18/11/21 01:23 AM
1

Duh
/r/seduction17/11/21 06:00 PM
1

Its not that hard to understand that women in their 20s are universally desired by men of all age groups, however the same is not true for men in their 20s. Which means that men in their 20s are competing with men of all age groups for women in their dame age range. There are almost twice as many single men in their 20s as single women in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 05:59 PM
3

This is super well articulated. Ive started to shift on this as well. I used to think that I wanted a woman with all the same interests as myself, but now I realize that her interests are largely irrelevant to my ability to have a good relationship with her. If shes physically attractive, a good communicator and pleasant to be around that's covers most bases.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:19 AM
3

This is the basis of red pill. Its that you can improve yourself to become desireable to women. But at a certain point its just not worth it. Like if Ive gotta be the best version of myself in all ways just to get a chance at being with a girl that has the attitude "if you cant handle me at my worst....."? Fuck that. As another commenter mentioned, most women arent worth that much work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 04:38 AM
1

If monogamy is your goal though this abundance is an illusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 04:13 PM
1

You think your gender has zero bearing on your personality or how you act? Obviously its not all determining but gender is absolutely relevant. Its not arbitrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:18 PM
0

Any man disagrees with me --> he must hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:23 AM
1

They dont want men that know the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:24 PM
-2

Doesn't matter. Its true. And smart red pilled men know when to keep their mouth shut. Legit redpilled men dont label themselves as auch irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:21 PM
-3

This is a useless question. The qualities that the red pill encourages men to have are qualities that are desirable to women. Women may not like the label or the packaging around it but its undeniable that they desire men that embody red pill traits. This is why asking womens opinion on trp and dating is useless. Women are not honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 05:28 PM
2

"Say the obvious thing" this isn't game. This is just saying hi to people. All you have to do as a girl is be pretty, and be pleasant and you will attract most men. From there you just have to filter out bad men and know how to spot quality ones.
/r/seduction08/11/21 01:51 PM
0

Because relationships are built.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 04:23 AM
1

What does cold approaching even look like for women? Saying hi? Women have to reduce their options by being selective. Men have to increase them by learning to appeal to more women. Women dont do game.
/r/seduction08/11/21 01:24 AM
1

Sure. Then other women say stuff like, "I dont want sex, but I want to cuddle".
/r/seduction08/11/21 12:43 AM
2

Am I wrong?
/r/seduction07/11/21 04:41 AM
1

Im starting to highly believe in preselection. Ive noticed that other women are more open and friendly with me when they see me getting on with another girl. I want to keep building on this.
/r/seduction07/11/21 03:10 AM
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This is a girl right? Girls dont do "game" lol.
/r/seduction07/11/21 03:06 AM
1

Its not just that. Look at studies on men that father children with multiple women. Or look at the stats of step fathers vs step mothers. Or consider how common paternity fraud is for men.
/r/MensRights07/11/21 01:58 AM
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I think women that are engaging in these attention seeking activities are still seeking the attention of alpha men. But they have to act that way in front of all the non alpha men to get the alpha to notice them. So when a girls shaking her ass in the club shes not doing it for all the guys that are there. Shes doing it so the one hot alpha chad will take notice of her.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/21 03:03 PM
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Im not even unempathetic. Ive gone through the same thought process as the op. But really, now what? As I see it personal solutions are going to be much easier to achieve than societal ones.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/21 12:28 AM
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Lifes not fair. Now what?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/21 02:47 AM
10

I could take a couple punches for a tuition discount.
/r/MensRights03/11/21 03:14 AM
2

I can tell you that women are much more warm and open with me when they see me socializing with other women. Its not like women are falling over themselves to fuck guys that are flirting with other women, but they do take note of it and treat those men differently. A big thing guys have to deal with is women automatically viewing them as potentially dangerous or creepy. Being sociable with many different people signals to other men and women that you are well adjusted and not dangerous/creepy. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 04:35 PM
1

Sure, but then that just means that womens perceptions of themselves and their own actions are inaccurate. Why do I care about your perspective if its not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 02:14 PM
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All these girls are lying. This is exactly why the rp preaches to look at womens actions rather than taking them at their word. Social proof is a huge part of whether women find men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:57 AM
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There isnt an equivalent. The roles of men and women are asymmetrical.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 08:03 PM
2

This is a result of leftism. The goal is simply to uproot all systems of hierarchy or value structures.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 07:28 PM
1

There are more submissive men than dominant women Maybe youre selecting for dominant men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:09 AM
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Youre ignoring my point. There is a way that immigrants can immigrate and assimilate. Immigration isnt inherently bad anything. But immigration without any care for assimilation is dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:25 PM
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Yes i do. Like i said peoples values are generally passed don't to their kids. If threatened don't assimilate it makes it less likely that their children will.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:06 PM
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I know lots of immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:35 AM
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You probably have good social proof. Girls see that you have stuff going on with other girls and they get fomo.
/r/seduction27/10/21 04:32 AM
1

Did you ignore my previous comment? Most culture is passed on from parent to child which in 95% of cases is bloodline. Culture can absolutely be learned, but only if immigrants assimilate. If there is no emphasis on that then people will import their own cultures for better or worse which does threaten western culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:03 AM
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100%. In every social circle I hear joke about or complain about the one guy who has asked every woman out. Also your social circle is limited. Lets say I have 50 people that I see and talk to regularly. 25 are female. And 10 are attractive to me. 7 are taken so that gives me 3 options. Say none of them are interested in you..... now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:05 PM
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"Western culture, also known as Western civilization, Occidental culture, or Western society, is the heritage of social norms, ethical values, traditional customs, belief systems, political systems, artifacts and technologies of the Western world. The term also applies beyond Europe to countries and cultures whose histories are strongly connected to Europe by immigration, colonization, or influence. For example, Western culture includes countries in the Americas and Oceania. Western culture is m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 04:10 PM
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Culture clash is a legitimate issue. The more fragmented a country becomes and the less there is a sense of shared values the less stable a country will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:17 PM
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Social security is a Ponzi scheme that only functions with a growing population.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:15 PM
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Because the primary way that values are passed on is from parent to child. Of course immigrants can assimilate into the dominant culture of the country they immigrate to however the idea that this is even desirable is under attack. If high numbers of people immigrate to a country without assimilating the culture will start to shift
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:12 PM
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I mean i was 22 so yeah I couldnt have afforded a kid on a single income of 50k. I plan on continuing to improve my income and also Ill likely marry a woman that works and contributes. Im sure theyll take some time off for child birth but by that time well have saved up some money to make it easier. Its not like I didnt work with people that had kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:16 AM
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Literally proving my point. Anybody who thinks 50k a yr is broke is out of touch with reality. Yeah maybe in certain ridiculously hcol places like nyc 50k is broke but in most of the us 50k is solidly middle class especially if you are living in a dual income household. 50k income puts you at the 55th percentile for income earners. Anecdotally I made 45k last year while living a major us city. I was able to afford a car, a one bedroom apartment 10 min from the city center, groceries and other ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:29 PM
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I know multiple guys in their 20s making the median income or higher that are single. The issue is that women have no real sense of what broke is. 50k a year isnt broke, but to most women you might as well be if youre not making 100k.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:21 PM
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Its about being picky with the right qualities. Women often are picky about the wrong things. They overvalue things that dont matter and undervalue things that actually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 06:30 PM
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Women are absolutely more agreeable in general and this will affect how they answer these questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:48 AM
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Lol no its not. Marriage is a religious and cultural practice. Government has just jumped in to have control as well but when you get married you are not submitting yourself to the state. You are submitting yourself to your spouse and to certain religious principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:10 PM
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I disagree that its the states place of authority to keep marriages intact. Hoever I think culturally marriage should be taken much more seriously. Marriage isnt something you do simply because your partner gives you butterflies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 01:14 AM
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Most women either dont understand, or dont care that the sexual attention they get at clubs, or the attention they get online from men doesnt translate into the ability to find a good long term partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:11 AM
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I often see sorta lanky, ok looking guys with obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:30 PM
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Stop trolling. Its annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:36 AM
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Ill be honest, im super horny and sexual quite often, but I can absolutely control it. I dont get erections and fantasize about doing a every girl i see doggy. Thats how I think when Im alone in my room at the end of the day, sure, but during the day Im absolutely able to control my sexual thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 02:03 AM
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I feel like you can be friends with women that arent in your mating pool so to speak. Im friendly with lots of older women where we dont see each other as potential partners, and the sexual tension just doesnt exist in either direction.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/21 04:39 AM
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I agree IF the woman actually values marriage in a deep way and doesn't just see it as a way to "settle down" after her hoe phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 12:23 AM
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There are multiple factors. Here In atguing that increased female promiscuity is a bad thing for most men. The idea that women feel more free to be sexually liberal as they rely less on men is a separate idea that doesnt contradict my assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 07:26 PM
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Is this supposed to contradict my claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 07:05 PM
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People act like sexual desire is superfluous, but its one of the main reasons we still exist as a species.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 06:18 PM
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Relationships too. I cant speak for other guys, but personally I sorta see sex as a lower hanging fruit than a relationship. So when I talk about not being able to have sex im really saying "i cant get in a relationship, i cant even get sex." But my desires dont end at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 06:14 PM
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Theres a jordan peterson quote about how women's role is to make men self conscious and I cant stop thinking about it. Womrn really underestimate how much their desires shape men. A lot of my progress has come from wanting to be more desireable to women. Women have a hard time understanding it because men dont affect women in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 06:12 PM
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Tier 1 trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:51 PM
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Where anywhere in my post did I say anything about force? I 100% believe in freedom of choice, but that doesn't mean that all choices are good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:49 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:47 PM
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Do you have a source for that 30% of single men stat? The seems high tbh. I think youre right though about relationships though. Probably more women are in relationships that having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:47 PM
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Ur delusional if you think women aren't having more casual sex than in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:44 PM
1

True fact
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:41 PM
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Is that really how you see monogamy? As domestic slavery? You people are out of touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 04:49 AM
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Highly attractive men that want to fuck without commitment absolutely use tinder lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 04:47 AM
1

Not if youre able to get a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 04:46 AM
2

Its a a positive feedback loop. Women have become more promiscuous which turns men off from wanting to have relationships with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 04:43 AM
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Social media has changed the game. Through things like tinder and instagram women absolutely have easy access to top tier men for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:08 AM
4

Not encourage or reward promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:07 AM
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Yeah i lowkey think she wanted me to be pushy and "take what I wanted" but I dont play that game.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:09 AM
3

It hurts everybody imo. Theres a reason why we are primarily monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:08 AM
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You can be redpilled and value relationships and monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:19 PM
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Because being monogamous means that multiple women cant all have the same guy. Women that value monogamy will have to be more realistic about their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:18 PM
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Admittedly this only happened. I really have no idea. She wanted me to sleep with her in her bed still though and we spent the next together so I dont think I scared her off, perhaps just turned her off. As for giving girls a ride home this has always been in a platonic context without me expecting anything sexual. Im just saying what looks to an outsider like a guy picking a girl up and taking her home with him could just be him hanging out with his female friend and giving her a ride home.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:17 PM
1

That makes more sense but thats still crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:42 PM
2

Are you trolling. So your bf has cheated on you with like 10 women and your response is an eyeroll? Tf?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:33 PM
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You saw them leave in the same car go home to the same place then get in bed together? Ive gone home with girls that change their mind about sex last minute. Ive given girls rides home. Women will absolutely entice men with the implication of sex then not fulfill the implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:31 PM
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Do you see them fuck? Or just buy the girl drink?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:18 PM
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Cause theyre nicer. Idk why but girls in their early 20s have huge egos and are generally unfriendly. Late 20s and early 30s women are much more friendly and mature.
/r/seduction26/09/21 02:53 AM
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Lol dont be fat and youve crossed one requirement out of like 100 that women have for you. Also women wont like you if youre too skinny either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:30 AM
1

I can give lots of info on this. Dm if you have questions. Yes youll meet lots of women doing this. However it has not made me any more successful with women if Im being honest.
/r/seduction26/09/21 02:28 AM
2

This guys getting scammed right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 09:05 PM
5

As a guy if you dont talk about your relationship status or you dont pursue a woman who has some interest in you you are assumed to be gay and people will tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 08:23 PM
5

Jordan petersons message is more about how adopting responsibility is good for yourself and your own well being. His message isnt that you have some duty to sacrifice yourself for society. Its that adopting responsibility and persevering in the face of suffering will give your life meaning that we as individuals need.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:13 AM
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What a useless comment
/r/seduction13/09/21 06:48 PM
2

Id prefer this. I have a unique name so everybody remembers me and i don't remember them. If your want to be notable though make some sort of connection. I remember people that i context with one way or another.
/r/seduction11/09/21 05:54 PM
2

Lol. Out the frying pan and into the fire. Good luck
/r/MensRights11/09/21 06:51 AM
1

I think you misunderstand me. My point is that relationships are more than your initial lust for your partner. If you spend so much time getting to know eachother, learning to cooperate, and building a family together there is value tied in with all that that will have to be rebuilt if you end the relationship to be with somebody else. Its not so obvious that if youre wife is an 8 and a 9 comes along that you will gain by leaving one relationship to start another, at least not initially. I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 10:55 PM
2

Yeah I didnt start to see the red pill in real life until I was about 20. The dynamic in highschool is way different than after highschool.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:55 AM
1

Youre in highschool, your opinion doesnt matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:52 AM
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Omg female_antinatalism is so bad that it borders on parody.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 11:22 PM
2

As i understand it simps are men that chase women that aren't into them and get used for money or as an emotional outlet hoping they'll get sec one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 07:22 PM
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Leftists really do buy into this. Thats why they believe in defunding the police. Edit: why are you booing? I'm right. Leftists would rather have crimes go unpunished.
/r/MensRights04/09/21 08:00 AM
2

Im a straight dude but im gonna just say, asian guys are slept on. How you gonna tell me that daniel dae kim isnt a hunk?
/r/seduction04/09/21 07:36 AM
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They call any woman that makes an effort a pick me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:47 AM
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I hate to be this sort of guy but it basically seems like the average woman is constantly pushing the boundary trying to see what she can get away with. Often there is little thought into how she can be a good or desireable partner apart from maybe trying to be more sexually desireable. Yeah ill take you out to eat if next time you cook me a meal. But more and more it feels like men are expected to provide without women feeling the need to contribute in equal part.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:46 AM
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Am i the only one that believes in building a relationship? Like even if a better option comes around, youre dropping all that spent with your partner and trust built that will take time to rebuild with a new partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:47 AM
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Ugly guys arent better guys but neither are hot guys. Good guys are good guys. You just gotta find an acceptable balance between good and hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:46 AM
1

This is a super interesting idea and probably the most helpful comment. Although it goes against a lot of what Ive been told growing up which is to really care what women think and make sure I dont make people uncomfortable. Its hard to reconcile these two ideas. But i guess you just have to have your own principles. If i know im not doing anything wrong then it doesnt matter what other people think. How do you know what principles to have though?
/r/seduction04/09/21 01:48 AM
0

I'm trying to cut this short. Im part the femdom fantasies but before the passenger. I want to be better
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 06:17 AM
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This is honestly becoming a more mainstream opinion though. People are self segregating and believe that people are unable to build bridges with eachother about issues that they may not directly face. I always want to show the absurdity by taking this point to the extreme though. Like why should a woman whos never been pregnant have an opinion on abortion? How could she possibly understand the situation when she hasnt experienced pregnancy? Obviously this is silly, people can empathize and imagi…
/r/MensRights03/09/21 05:32 AM
1

FDS? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:21 PM
1

Porn, alcohol and video games. Come get me ladies 😈😈
/r/seduction01/09/21 03:06 AM
0

Imo women are less on guard around other women than they are with women. I saw this video of a lesbian cold approaching eandom women and got straight women to agree to dates lol. They dont see eachother as dangerous, whereas women do see random men as dangerous.
/r/seduction31/08/21 10:03 PM
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You didnt build enough rapport in person. Give her a reason to want to continue talking to you before you get her number. Girls honestly pass out their numbers fairly easy but if you dont leave an impression theyre not likely to reply to your texts.
/r/seduction31/08/21 10:01 PM
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The biggest thing imo is just to be friendly. Lots of women are downright rude to men because they think youll be a creeper if theyre nice. If a girl is friendly to me but turns me down when I ask for her number I 100% respect that. What I hate is women who are just rude or even ignore you when you just try to start a convo. Its so refreshing when a woman is simply friendly to me.
/r/MensRights31/08/21 05:35 AM
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They're commies bro
/r/MensRights31/08/21 01:10 AM
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I have no solutions, but if its of any solace, I have heard basically the same thing from my mom.
/r/MensRights29/08/21 09:32 AM
1

I think youre not understanding that the more sexually selective women are the more men will be left out of the sexual market place. And the men that are in the market place will often end up dating down relatively speaking. I could draw you a diagram that illustrates this, but im too lazy to take a picture and upload it. And incels amd alphas are archetypes that are representative of real world phenomena. Its immature to simply dismiss my whole argument because of my word choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:43 PM
2

I personally think that its a comparison of men to men. Because men and women traditionally fill different roles, its not easy to determine what "better" really is. I think if you rank all men and all women based on attractiveness however youll see that women who are say are in the 50th percentile end up with men in say the 60th percentile. Its not clear that men in the 60th percentile are better than women in the 50th in absolute terms, especially the more men and women are fulfilling different…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:33 PM
1

Well i think you summarized the issue well, but for me as a guy whats really disheartening is the idea that I have to work hard to be an above average guy just to have a shot at being a with a so so girl. For guys like me that actually want an equal and want to see our partners as equal this doesnt allow for that. Men who are ok with this arrangement are ok with seeing women as beneath them. So i think the idea that men who are upset about hypergamy want to own women is false. Also hypergamy mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:13 PM
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Ask him to coffee.
/r/seduction28/08/21 07:46 PM
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I mean subs like againsthatesubreddits, or whatever its called will brigade subs and post offensive material and mass report to get subs shut down. Were kinda past the point of free and open discourse. Peaceful and non hateful subs do get shut down.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/21 03:15 AM
2

Im super insecure because of behavior like this. I make plans and then the person flakes and I wonder, "was I inappropriate? Did I make her uncomfortable?" And it makes me associate honest friendly actions as creepy. Is it creepy to ask a girl to hang out? Then I end up not doing anything.
/r/MensRights27/08/21 07:51 PM
5

Theres a difference between being independent and being NEET though. Somebody that is NEET is quite literally a drain on those providing for them and subsidizing their lifestyle. On the other hand a gay dude that takes care of himself is not a leech on anybody. And I generally dont believe that shaming or bullying or good tactics, but if you believe that being NEET is a bad way to live you should be able to say so. There have been short periods in my life that I was living that way, and I wish s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/21 07:30 PM
1

Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 10:10 PM
5

Youre literally pushing away guys that respect boundaries. If you reject somebody at the beginning of just them trying to chat with you, then respectful guys will respect you and leave. Pushy guys will stick around. I try to talk to everybody that talks to me. If I'm busy I talk for a minute and then let them know I have other things to attend to. I'm never rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 09:50 PM
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Its shitty though. Youre only pushing guys away that are actually respectful of your boundaries which are presumably, the guys youd rather have stick around. Ive had women be very rude to me for just trying to start a conversation. Its dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 08:45 PM
0

Love generally appears after attraction is established.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 09:43 PM
4

I dont smile much, but sometimes a kid walks by and gives me a big smile, and I cant help but smile back. Afterwards though Im always nervous about somebody calling me out for smiling at their kid.
/r/MenSupportMen23/08/21 09:23 PM
2

Some guys aren't socially aware and are too pushy, however women often try to brush you off immediately and as a guy you have a bit of success if you can just get through initial resistance and show them youre a cool guy that has something in common with them. Also though I often try to continue an interaction and end it normally if a girl tells me she has a boyfriend. I dont just walk away the second she says that, rather, I try to wrap up the conversation in a natural way.
/r/seduction23/08/21 12:40 AM
1

I actually often see handsome, tall, fit dudes trying to game fat older women. Its hard to not raise your standards when higher caliber men are actually chasing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:09 AM
8

I really wonder how grown adults can believe that 100k single income isnt a lot. Like do they not have jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 12:33 PM
1

I'm starting to feel this way. Idk how to cope
/r/MensRights20/08/21 08:34 AM
3

Is this a joke? I need a minor in photography on top of everything else to get a girl. Wtf?
/r/seduction20/08/21 08:16 AM
10

Yeah... women basically dont make any moves at all. The only girl who has explicitly told me she wants to have sex with me was an old friend who was trying to cheat on her bf. And im a fairly average guy. Other than that nothing. Women think saying hi to you is a hint but will simultaneously berate you for thinking her niceness is anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:50 AM
1

So you have any resources to check out about this?
/r/seduction19/08/21 04:20 AM
1

I definitely feel this way. Weight lifting just doesnt appeal to me. Its boring. But Im trying to find other ways to be fit. Id really like to try rock climbing or a martial art.
/r/TheRedPill19/08/21 12:42 AM
3

I think a big caveat is the "just" in "just be yourself". Yes authenticity is good, but its not sufficient to find and sustain a happy relationship. You can be authentic while simultaneously improving yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 11:26 PM
5

Why are you on this subreddit?
/r/seduction16/08/21 11:17 PM
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This why the red pill says not to listen to womens words. Lol, most women dont want a man to lead? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:45 AM
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I kinda doubt that most women want perfectly equal partnerships. Most seem to want some degree of gendered roles, though it may be less gendered than in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:34 AM
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If women want men to lead then women have to follow. If you want men to lead but are simultaneously unwilling to follow then you are a toxic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:08 AM
2

Read actual stoic philosophy and tell me what you disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:04 AM
3

I dont think this is true. There is a reason that we evolved so that women externalize their emotions and men internalize them. Women risking their necks to save men in peril isnt what keeps the human race alive. Its the reverse. Men are more disposable biologically speaking than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:04 AM
2

Source? I wanna read this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:01 AM
1

I find stoicism helpful. Ive been theorizing what really makes somebody masculine or feminine. And one thing Im starting to realize is women are encouraged to externalize their emotions and seek help. Men are encouraged to internalize them and help themselves. Thats why women cry and men dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:00 AM
4

Hurt people hurt people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/21 01:23 AM
2

Idk I had a female coworker smack my butt at work. Women feel more of a license to be touchy and to make weird comments without shame imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 03:06 PM
1

Can I ask what was said? This is surprising to me as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 03:05 PM
3

We should probably just have separate work spaces for men and women to avoid all issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 03:03 PM
3

I got accused of wanting to control what women are allowed to wear cause I cant keep my eyes off them for jokingly saying that I feel awkward when a woman wears a shirt with text on it, and I wanna know what it days, but I dont want to seem like Im looking at her boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 03:00 PM
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I think they dont truly comprehend how much attention they get just because they are women. Even seemingly innocent and friendly attention. Theyre not as interesting as they think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 02:02 PM
1

I guess my point is that evening the economic playing field will not make women's "desire to be provided for" disappear. Women will still value the same things over all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:31 AM
-2

Ok how about murder? What percentage of murder is committed by men?
/r/MensRights13/08/21 11:21 AM
4

People aren't purely rational though. They're instinctual. Surely evolutionarily developed mating instincts will stick around a bit longer than they are useful. High earning women still desire higher earning men for example. Women desire larger men for protection even though the world is relatively safe, and firearms level the playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:02 AM
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I mean if you wanna be specific, men commit most violent crimes.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 09:38 AM
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I really think women dont understand how difficult this is. I think Im fairly average, attractive to some unattractive to others. Im friendly, though maybe sometimes a bit awkward, but Im not creepy. As in I dont make sexual comments or advances on random women, Im not touchy. I have zero success with women. One thing that you have to realize is that women are going to be creeped out no matter what, if you are making any effort to find a partner. Some well adjusted women can reject a guy without…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 03:58 AM
2

Maybe my comment came off the wrong way. Bullying is never justified. But its often easier to change yourself to fit into society than it is to change society to fit you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/21 03:00 AM
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I dont personally see myself as feminine or masculine. I just am who I am. That said I have noticed that certain "masculine" traits have been super important for me to develop. Im not sure that I buy that these are even masculine traits, but either way things like learning to be confident, assertive, stoic, physically able etc have all been important qualities for me to develop. It doesnt stop me from pursuing my somewhat feminine interests in things like fashion, and dance. Again Im not even su…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/21 09:34 PM
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This is my biggest frustration with disciurse on transgender issues. You can believe in what they believe up to a point, but as soon as tou deviate youre a sexist transphobe bigot. Theres no real room for discourse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/21 09:52 AM
1

Men and women have different standards. You meeting your own standards doesnt mean you meet their standards because their standards arent the same as yours. Idk how else to say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 01:36 AM
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For example just cause you have a good job as a woman doesnt mean that youre gonna have an easier time finding a guy with a good job. Looks are probably more important than what u do for a living.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 12:41 AM
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Well one distinction is that its not the top x% of men. Its simply x% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 08:48 PM
1

Woman and men want different things in eachother. Just because you meet your standards doesnt mean that you meet their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 08:40 PM
-2

Say something new
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 08:31 PM
0

Eh low self esteem women can be toxic and cause harm. Its just that women are less physically aggressive and more likely to cause harm in other ways like reputation destruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:05 AM
2

Thats fair. I think that validation from men and women is different though. You can be getting compliments from your bros and still want them from ladies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:04 AM
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Just make your boundaries clear. Compliments aren't invitations to touch you. Let people know. You can be kind while maintaining boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:38 PM
4

This girl complimented my dancing, I asked for her number and she told me she had a boyfriend. I said wished her a good night and left. It's not a big deal. Most guys can take no for an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:31 PM
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Yes, of course it's dangerous if you give men any confidence as evidenced by all the confident men who are doing mass shootings. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:23 PM
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I just dont buy this. This is basically what I hear from most women. "You're handsome, but you're not my type." Ok well apparently Im nobodys type, you cant tell me Im cute when Im nobodys type. Its just a cop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:47 PM
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Women are increasingly taking the position that they owe men nothing, not even basic decency, while simultaneously voting disproportionately for democrats that want to increase social welfare programs. This seems so contradictory to me. On the one hand women are voting for programs that redistribute wealth while, thus making people increasingly responsible for others who they have no social relationship to while simultaneously denying any responsibility or obligations to those in their social pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:45 PM
3

When did women become so hostile about this stuff? What happened to social niceties. Nobody owes anybody anything of course, but how much does honesty really cost you? If somebody wants my honest opinion to aid them in their self improvement I'm happy to take 5 seconds out of my day give them an honest answer. And I eonder if you really apply that philosophy to other things. Are you against social welfare programs because "you don't owe anybody anything"? I suspect not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:40 PM
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One big insecurity I have is that I really don't know what I'm doing wrong with women. It's so frustrating to hear all these good things about myself and told theres nothing wrong with me then have every single woman go on to reject me. I feel like I'm being lied to. Like if Im being too forward Id like to know that so I can correct it. If I smell bad let me know so I can address it. But when I don't know what Im doing wrong I cant fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:34 PM
2

Women do so much gaslighting. If I mention my dating frustrations to any woman I get told "it's probably because you're whining, and you don't act confident and complain too much etc". Like no I'm confident and upbeat with the women I approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:29 PM
0

I hate that with how polarized people are though there is often no room for disagreement at all. You can be for the premise of a sub and still get banned for having minor disagreements.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:09 AM
3

In terms of urges I think sex and human connection come like right after food and water. Not quite as important, but its up there. The human race would not exist if people didnt have the urge to reproduce. Its not trivial.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 08:33 AM
3

I felt the same way about the kissing scene in Rain Man.
/r/MensRights08/08/21 08:23 AM
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Exactly I hate the gaslighting that u see from people trying to tell you its not a big deal at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 01:41 AM
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I feel like there is less tolerance for ideological diversity and more tolerance for superficial diversity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 02:34 AM
2

How many girls do this regularly? Idc about all the stuff girls do. Like wear decent clothes, and be in shape thats all I care about. Im not asking women to spend 200 on hair and nails.
/r/seduction05/08/21 05:15 PM
6

Lol imagine being a woman
/r/seduction05/08/21 11:12 AM
14

Because they're not egalitarian. It's a ruse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 10:36 AM
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Saying men need male role models is now considered misogyny. It wont be long til this sub is banned lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 06:44 AM
2

Bruh imagine women put in this sort of effort. Dating is a joke.
/r/seduction05/08/21 04:10 AM
1

What is the exact context in the study? Like how are they simulating the psychological closeness or distance?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:12 AM
1

Do they concretely say what this means in the context of the study?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:35 PM
1

"Six studies revealed that when evaluating psychologically distant targets, men showed greater attraction toward women who displayed more (vs. less) intelligence than themselves. In contrast, when targets were psychologically near, men showed less attraction toward women who outsmarted them" Im not sure the exact context of this study, but I suspect by how that men dont like women outsmarting them in a competetive way. But thats fairly obvious and I suspect the same is true of women. People want…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:36 AM
2

Well theyre celibate, but a certain percentage of that is voluntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:13 AM
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Do you have a source on women having more partners, and being more likely to be alcoholics? I also really doubt that women have more taboo fetishes than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:01 AM
1

What research?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 10:39 PM
3

Then why are women on tinder?
/r/seduction02/08/21 10:38 PM
3

I really think that its just about personality differences. The sort of woman that gets a PHD in engineering probably has sub par social skills, as do I suspect most men that have PHDs in engineering.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:30 PM
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Sounds like you need to be more assertive. Why do you have to have your dad tell thrm to not rip you off. If you are knowledgeable about whats a good deal and whats notbthen call them out, and if they wont adjust their price then go to a different shop. Thats what Id do as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:26 PM
3

The red pill motto is specifically in regards to women's sexual and romantic desires. But outside of that I take women as seriously as I take men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:24 PM
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Bro theyre women. They don't have to put any effort in when they have guys dying just to text on tinder.
/r/seduction02/08/21 06:47 PM
3

Im very grateful to my mom for raising me but I definitely see how she fits the single mother archetype.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:51 AM
1

I think you misunderstand the movement. I think most red pilled guys would concede that its possible to be friends with women in certain contexts and that the key message is not to give women your time for free. And the red pill isnt about hating women, it's about understanding women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:17 PM
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Ok I'm telling you my experience as a male who finds the red pill appealing. The reason that message is appealing is because I've spent a lot of time thinking that if i was just friendly enough with certain women id have a chance at being with them romantically. Now i realize i shouldn't "try to be friends with women who I'm romantically interested in." I'm friends with women that i legitimately find interesting that i don't have any romantic attraction to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 11:06 AM
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Ill be honest, i currently believe that most women are not suitable for legitimate friendships. Some are. Im definitely grateful to the women that u do or have considered friends. But ive realized after being "friends" with a couple women tht we had two different views of our relationship. I dont even think this is necessarily their fault. But in some cases I saw the her as a potential romantic partner and eventually realized that she never saw me the same way. I think the less controversial red…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 10:51 AM
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Please give me one example so i can address it. I do want to engage in good faith. If youre capable of empathy i think express some redpill stuff in a more digestible way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 10:41 AM
1

What specifically do you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 10:11 AM
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Literally stop talking to these women. They will never understand you or show you any empathy. Talk to like minded men or read some books that you relate to. Idk why we all feel like we need women to agree with us in order to have our feelings validated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 10:08 AM
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Thats true. Once you have a baseline competency in something, average people who have no experience with that thing cant accurately determine your skill level. Like there is a huge skill gap between being a good dancer and being an amazing dancer, but somebody who doesnt dance probably wont be able to tell the difference. Women with delusional expectations are so frustrating cause they dont realize how much effort goes into being "high value" and once you manage to be high value, they dont actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 12:29 AM
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Youre severely limiting your options if you do that. Most girls are not going to show interest in you first.
/r/seduction29/07/21 10:20 PM
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Women not being clear about their interest is a turn off for me, so i guess were at an impasse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 06:09 AM
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Ill give you an example. People often say to look for women within your hobby. This kinda scares me cause I think what if I ask a couple girls out and they all say no? Will they talk about me behind my back. Will they tell new girls in the group that Im just trying to fuck everybody and that they should avoid me? The real fear is that any approach will put me in a negative light and it will damage my reputation. Even if youre objectively not being creepy people eill twist your words. Look at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 05:28 AM
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Bro they're not gonna ever understand or agree. Ive heard "not a womans job..." in response to every other comment I've posted on this sub. Women like this are entitled and expect men to please them without them providing anything of value back. Not even a simple "good job".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:53 AM
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If youre gonna lie to me at least lie in a way that doesnt waste my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 09:03 PM
1

Can you send me the discord invite? The old link expired.
/r/MGTOW224/07/21 01:25 AM
1

Where at?
/r/MGTOW224/07/21 01:21 AM
1

"ad hominem"
/r/MGTOW224/07/21 01:06 AM
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Women are delusional and think theyre dating their equals lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:24 AM
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Conservatives dont inherently see women as inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:24 AM
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Cause we already have no options without considering that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:22 AM
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Not even though. Women get dressed up all the time then still complain about guys approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:50 PM
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Show me an authoritative source that claims it is a fact that women signal availability by dress. Im telling you as a guy how a girl dresses means nothing. Even wedding rings dont mean shit cause half the women wearing them arent actually married, meanwhile tons of insta thots have boyfriends. At best a womans clothing and makeup and all thats signals their desire for attention, not their actual availability. Then again women will wear low cut shirts then complain about guys staring saying theyr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:39 PM
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I honestly dont buy this. Theres another post in this sub by this girl explaining how she needs a guy who is willing to pay for her to be done up all the time. Like obviously she and women like her still do themselv s up even when they are taken. And in my experience, how a girl dresses or does her makeup has nothing to do with whether or not she has a boyfriend. I really dont see any of it as a signal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:43 PM
6

Ur a bimbo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:28 PM
1

Yeah wtf is this per month? $500+? Its just a waste of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:27 PM
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Nobody cares about ur lashes and nails. Its a waste of money. This is why women are broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:26 PM
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I thought women dress how they want and wear makeup for themselves and they dont care what guys think?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:18 PM
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I agree with the other reply. Its largely a waste of time. For example when I see fat girls wearing makeup i always think their efforts would be better spent losing weight. It would help them be more attractive to other people and it would just be good for their health.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:17 PM
2

I didn't even think about this. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:05 PM
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I think women often lump in simple social anxiety or nervousness in with the idea that they have to be cold to men otherwise theyll be creepy. Women just never want to take responsibility for their personal shortcomings.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:55 AM
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Bro you rely on character attacks too much because you have nothing of actual value to say. And I have no animosity towards my parents. Im grateful to mom for raising me, even if the circumstances were imperfect. I have no feelings for my father who hasnt been a part of my life. Im at peace with own situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:48 AM
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Sure but why are men found at both extremes in society more than women?
/r/MensRights22/07/21 06:47 PM
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I think youd probably find that a lot of your beliefs are left leaning or at least arent inherently left leaning.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/21 06:25 PM
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Its a good question though.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 06:05 PM
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Is it wrong tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:51 PM
2

Yeah just think about the fact that the modern gene peool has had twice as many women contribute to it as men. In hasnt historically been the norm for men who have children to have two different households that they take care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:42 PM
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Theres no US states where women cannot get an abortion at least before 20 weeks (5 months). This idea that women are just magically becoming pregnant no fault of their own and are forced by the evil patriarchy to carry the baby to full term is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:00 AM
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No I dont. I very much disagree with the notion that special policies need to be made that take away peoples personal autonamy because "the plebians aren't enlightened enough to think and make their own decisions".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:12 AM
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This is so dumb. Like women wont date you unless there is a power imbalance, then if you are better than them they cry about power imbalances. Choose one. This is just an example of women not taking responsibility for their choices. They touch the hot pan and get burned. What did you think would happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:32 AM
1

My therapist can help cite historical sources for me? Your insults dont even make sense brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:51 PM
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Cite a specific source not all of history. You obviously dont know what youre talking about. Otherwise you would have linked a specific article or paper with that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:25 PM
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Bruh. At how many excuses can people makem None of the numerous birth control methods worked for you, nor does plan b, nor does an abortion, nor does birthing the child and giving it up for adoption, nor does trying to make things work with the father etc. Like at this point i think people are just looking for reasons to make things hard for themselves. Idk how many safety nets you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:47 PM
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History is pretty broad. Give me a source and Ill check it out. Otherwise Ill assume you dont have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:45 PM
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They work together and make the best out of a bad situation. Or they get an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:23 PM
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Show me a source that shows that welfare ended child labor lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:48 PM
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Thats not why lol. Its because we live in a prosperous post industrial country and child labor isnt necessary for the survival of the family. Child labor was almost non existent in the us way before we had any sort of redistributive welfare programs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:38 PM
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No the alternative is that men and women make decisions that allow them to provide for their children. The vast majority of single mothers arent like mentally retarded or crippled and unable to provide for their children. They just make sub par choices because they know that they will be subsidized for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:34 PM
1

Ok yeah and now child labor isnt legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:11 PM
1

Lots of people have unplanned pregnancies that decide to stick it out together. They marry and raise the child together.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:05 PM
2

I really dont understand what youre saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:03 PM
1

Alpha has the genes, beta has the resources. When women are guaranteed money as long as they have children then there is less of an incentive for them to look for a beta provider and simply get pregnant by the guy with the best genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:59 PM
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Sometimes it has for me. People have asked me. And the time I got close to having sex my inexperience showed even though I didnt actually tell her I was a virgin. She changed her mind on the spot lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:56 PM
1

I don't think people should be so casual about splitting up when you have a child together. Like ok if there is physical abuse or drug use on or something like that on the fathers end then being a single mom might be your best option. But once you have a kid I dont think you can just decide break up cause youre bored with eachother. At that point your union is about something bigger than whether he gives you butterflies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:54 PM
1

Unwanted pregnancies ≠ single motherhood
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:45 PM
1

Also height though it's more easily communicated than wealth
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:35 PM
1

Well first of all people would be forced to make better decisions, so there would be less single mothers to start with. But the ones that do exist can still put the child up for adoption, or seek help from family, friends, or charity where it would be voluntarily given. I dont know why people think the government is the only way to solve problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:44 AM
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Im not trying to create a debate around the validity of all public expenditure. Only pointing out the perverse incentives that welfare programs create.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:24 AM
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You dont get it. Welfare creates single mothers, it doesnt prevent them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:21 AM
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It incentives single motherhood which is worse for children my all metrics including increasing the likelihood they become criminals and decreasing the amount of education they receive. It creates dependency on the government which many never are able to escape.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:20 AM
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Welfare and other factors that reduce a woman's need to depend on male resources simply allow her to more highly prioritize other things women find attractive. Exactly, but this introduces an unnatural economic and sexual asymmetry to society that basically allows women to exploit men financially entirely without their consent. And the decision will ultimately hurt future generations. Children raised in single parent households perform worse by almost every metric. Not to mention this just creat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:17 AM
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Are you being ironic? Do you understand what Im saying? Do you want to elaborate on what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:03 AM
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*nothing justifies involuntary theft.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:01 AM
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It takes two to tango. That being said, yes men who impregnate women should hold equal responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:55 AM
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Theft is never justified. Voluntary charity is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:17 AM
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Its not even that much. I make like 45k a year. Sure I use roads and police. But no welfare of any sort. I pay like 800 a month in state and federal income taxes combined. Not to mention sales tax. I really feel like I am paying way too much for what benefit I get from it day to day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:05 AM
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People being stupid isnt justification for theft.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:02 AM
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The child is not my responsibility. Why is the impetus on me to provide for a child who I have no relation to rather than on the parent? Charity still exists. People can voluntarily give to causes they support. But no I should not have money stolen fund me to rectify poor decisions made by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:46 AM
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Cathy Newman is that you? What Im saying is only take actions that fit within your risk tolerance. Nobody else is responsible for your bad decisions or misfortune. There are a plethora of birth control options. Double up on them. Use a condom and birth control. Heck, keep some plan B on your nightstand. Maybe only do oral and anal. Maybe get an abortion. Or don't have an abortion and give the child up for adoption. Or have the child and keep it and take personal responsibility for its care. Wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:45 AM
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Well yeah Im talking about the US mainly. I dont know how other countries are. But honestly I thought Canada was supposed to have a better social safety net than the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:28 AM
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Perhaps if my parents made better choices I wouldnt be here. Who knows what the world would be like if it were not what it is? Seriously though part of the reason my parents were comfortable making irresponsible decisions is because they knew somebody else would foot the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:26 AM
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Ok but still. If youre gonna have sex you have to accept ok there is x% chance Im gonna get pregnant. Am I comfortable with this risk?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:24 AM
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Ummm by having a job and living within my means?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:19 AM
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My fair share is paying for myself and any offspring that I have. Her fair share is herself and her offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:14 AM
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Not you specifically but it goes for everybody. I have not impregnated anybody. Your choices have consequences idk why this concept is so hard for people to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:13 AM
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If she knows the father even lol. But yeah say she does, the guy can still skip out on payments. Idk how but my father never payed child support that he was legally obligated to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:11 AM
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There are many different welfare programs. Things like section 8 will cover up to 100% of rent. Foodstamps, and food pantries can cover your food expenses. There are childcare credits. Also some receive disability payments. Most single moms probably dont receive enough benefits to stay home and do nothing, but many receive enough to feel fine working a minimum wage job.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:08 AM
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Take personal responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:54 AM
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You think that I should pay single mothers?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:34 AM
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Lol, are you trolling? Come on now
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:09 AM
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I dont want to pay women money that provide nothing of value to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:48 AM
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Imagine working hard and improving yourself to be as good as you can be just to get told to lower your standards lol. I am staying single and focusing on myself for now but I dont get how people act like relationships arent important. Its a staple of the human experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:34 AM
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An alpha male isnt necessarily a provider. Hes simply the one that women want to fuck. Most of that has to do with genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:21 AM
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Im not dating a woman that I cant speak openly to and confide in nor who I would not be happy to listen to in her times of trouble period. Maybe we have different standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:19 AM
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Its really hard to say. But I think people should really go into having children with the intention of staying together til the child is raised. I think if more importance had been placed on marrying before having children they would have had to evaluate if they were really ready make that commitment to eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:17 AM
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Because in a society where there is an equal number of men and women, if women all pursue the best of the men you you have men at the top who are very successful and men at the bottom who have no success. My hypothesis is that strengthening social safety nets will widen this gap. This is bad for me as an average male. Especially because it is then being funded by tax payers. In the absence of a welfare state men would voluntarily take on the "beta bucks" role, whereas increasingly with a welfare…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:10 AM
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Enough to replace the income of deadbeat fathers apparently. Yeah its a bad decision, but people make bad decisions all the time. Drinking alcohol negatively affects your health but most people drink alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:59 AM
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Welfare cliff prevents people from bettering their situation. But I have personally seen women forgo marriage knowing that theyll get more benefits, then I believe that the lack of making that commitment makes it easier for them to leave in the future paired with the availability of these benefits. And ive talked to women that actually plan on being single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:56 AM
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The whole pount of welfare is that its for people who arent well to do. Its kinda hard to explain it unless youve seen it. My mother never married my father so that they could double dip on benefits while living a bohemian lifestyle. I think this made it easier for her to split up with him when things got tough. I also have talked to a few women who plan on being single mothers. I cant believe that women are planning for this, but Ive learned that some are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:53 AM
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What bugs me is that women my age will date older guys instead of me and other guys around my age, then will get older and complain about power imbalances and being groomed and stuff. Like other guys your age were into you, and you decided you didnt want to be with them. You made a choice to be with somebody older.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:47 AM
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I'm confused, am i not allowed to express agreement with others?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:42 AM
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A big issue I have is that I want to respect women and be open with them, but I feel like I cant talk about these things openly without being shut down. At that point I just feel I cant respect the woman Im talking to. If a woman can say "Wow that is a difficult part of dating for men. I see why might have trouble with that, Im sorry." Then 100% I can respect them. Its not that I think women are inherently inferior or dont deserve respect, its that most women show zero empathy towards me and my …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:40 PM
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I mean I think women might reevaluate which guys they have interest in if they better understood what average men go through. Like "oh you can be a successful friendly guy that doesnt have significant red flags and still be a virgin? Hmm maybe I shouldn't automatically disqualify virgins."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:34 PM
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I think this is a legiyimate misunderstanding a lot of times. I use "sex" as kind of a shorthand for all sexual and romantic intimacy including relationships. I also see sex as something easier to get than a relationship. So when I complain about not being able to get sex really what Im saying is "I cant find any intimacy or romance with women. I cant get a relationship, I cant even just get sex." Ive been trying to adjust my speech to communicate this better, but just cause I complain about not…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:30 PM
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Ok fine. Ill concede that red pill rhetoric is sometimes over the top, and offensive, but I believe the base ideas behind them are fundamentally true. Like know no women dont want to get raped or more broadly have negative sexual experiences, but I recently saw this study that showed that womens regret about a negative sexual interactions did not translate to them taking different actions in the future. This lines up with my experience irl of women repeatedly continuing to put themselves in nega…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 09:09 PM
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Do you really believe this though? Im not friends with most women I know in any serious way. But Ive definitely been friends with women if we have similar interests or goals if there is no attraction between us. This often ends up being older women already married or in a relationship. There's 0 sexual tension, but we have other things in common that make it worth talking with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:46 PM
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The idea isnt to use indifference to attract women. Its to not invest time or resources into women that arent into you. If a woman is into you and youre into her you shouldnt give her the cold shoulder, thats dumb. You also shouldnt be a simp though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:42 PM
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All that hes saying is you shouldnt the endless continue to a pursue women who dont reciprocate interes. Shoot your shot, maybe two, then move on. Women who respond well to your propositions initially arent desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:39 PM
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I love how trp is simultaneously an extreme misogynistic worldview that doesnt match reality, but is also a truism that is totally exactly what blue pillers already think. Lol choose one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:32 PM
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I have a theory that older women are more into beards than younger ones.
/r/seduction19/07/21 05:36 PM
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Sure but whats the equivalent excuse for being underweight?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:38 PM
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http://www.bestbmicalculator.com/18/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:06 PM
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Do you think youre more or less likely to enjoy and pursue socialization in group settings when you are popular among others or undesirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 01:41 PM
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I dont care what women think I care about how thry act. Its observably true that women will chase bad guys in their youth that make them tingle then "mature" and realize what they really want is a provider. Women usually never admit this which is why the red pill is around. Its guys who are calling out what women are actually doing but wont admit. Also it doesnt matter if your friends use the term alpha male or beta male, the concept still exists. Another way to describe it is an alpha male is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 01:40 PM
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I suspect that there are more single mothers than deadbeat dads. Thats to say that a few guys will get multiple women pregnant and bounce. So I do think this ends affecting more women than men.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/21 12:50 PM
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Im not gonna settle for somebody i have no physical attraction to, but if I have a baseline physical attraction and am also attracted to other non visual qualities then Id be happy to be with them. A lot of women are simply bad at vetting and figuring our who a guy is and they just open up to guys they find physically attractive. They weight physical attractiveness too much in their youth and then adjust this strategy as they get older and realize not every hot guy is a good partner. But i dont …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:27 PM
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Its really about having consistent standards. What guys dont like is that women have two different sets of standards for alphas and betas. Also though as long as somebody is attractive enough for me Im attracted to them. Its really more of a binary thing. I sort of have the feeling that one person may be more attractive than another, but i wouldnt consider it to be settling if a girl is attractive to me but not a perfect a 10. If shes attractive shes attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:19 PM
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Bro eat a bit, you're underweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:09 AM
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I think we should just bully women who wear makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:06 AM
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Bruh why can nobody understand the idea of trends. There are exceptions to every trend. Doesnt mean that the trend doesnt exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:18 AM
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There is if they actually care about finding a good guy. If they were more open about who they were and what their values are they'd attract guys who are similar to them. Sure if all they want is attention then cast a wide net, but if they want more as most claim to, then they should be showcasing their specific desires so guys who are similar can gravitate to them instead of other generic thots.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:17 AM
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Ok but it does apply to women that get married sooo...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/21 05:14 AM
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Theyll be social in different environments. With their work buddies at work. Playing video games at bars. Participating in groups centered around hobbies etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 01:55 AM
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Thats the dumbest shit. Like girl if you want me to impress you and do the talking at least mention something in your bio worth talking about, or have an interesting picture worth commenting on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 01:48 AM
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I really dont see an issue with this. Not every conversation you have leads to having sex.
/r/seduction19/07/21 01:43 AM
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Just say something goofy or outlandish that shell reply to.
/r/seduction19/07/21 01:34 AM
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Why does everybody point to exceptions. Yes they can but its significantly less likely statistically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 01:10 AM
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I mean as whole women earn less than men. I imagine this carries into marriage and on average men are making more than women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/21 01:06 AM
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There are some of course. But proportionally there are less.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 11:48 PM
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I think that pickup spots like bars attract above average men. I went out last night and most guys were a healthy weight and there was a disproportionate amount of guys over 6ft. Below average guys typically arent going out to a place where they are going to be judged negatively for the qualities that make them below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:56 PM
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This is honestly so difficult to do. I thought that I wanted to go this route and its so hard to pick up girls in bars in clubs where you have to ooze charisma, and be good at escalating things physically. I find that my better qualities come out in conversation. I think that I am more attractive once you get to know about my goals, hobbies, passions, experiences etc. And none of this is relevant in the casual sex scene. Its hard to even get dates so either way I havent really had any success. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:52 PM
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Also I hate to say this but lots of teen girls really do look older. Nobody wants to admit this. There was a post on the front page the other day that was an old photo of some barefoot hippie girl. Half the comments were calling her beautiful and the other half were pointing out that she was like 14.
/r/MensRights18/07/21 09:15 PM
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Its not that weird.
/r/seduction18/07/21 09:07 PM
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Its about women being able to terminate parental responsibilities but men having no avenue to do the same. Sure you can say the guys hould accept the consequences of their actions, but then maybe women should do and abortion should be more restricted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:55 AM
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Theyve been pumped and dumped in the past and feel badly so they think if they domt get pumped they also wont get dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:56 PM
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Well one of the redpill assumptions is that women are fundamentally dishonest as they are more inclined to be agreeable. They will say what makes them look best, not what is true. For this reason Ive stopped taking what a woman says seriously and asking for explanations. I just look at actions. Thats all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:51 PM
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If you dont want to have a baby and you dont want to get an abortion then dont have sex. Or use a combo of birth control and plan B.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:41 PM
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Are you a detransitioner?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:06 PM
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If women have the option of actual abortion men should be able to make the decision to walk away as well. Right now women hold all the cards. They have just as much parental responsibility legally speaking but not the same choice to give up parental rights as women are able to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:05 PM
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I aint got that kind of money bro
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 07:50 AM
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Porn has its issues, but Im not forgoing sex in favor of porn. Its the reverse. I watch porn cause I cant get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:17 PM
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I dont know why this isnt talked about more, but I agree. Like a 30 yr old guy can easily date 5 years younger. Im 22 though, so I can exactly date five years younger. So while women my age havea ton of options as theyre willing to date older, guys my age have their options mostly squished between 18 up to their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:08 PM
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Its amazing that not only does she feel comfortable telling the story, she feels comfortable saying that she raped somebody. Shameless.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 07:56 PM
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Im not talking about building up a guy who has zero confidence. Im just talking about not shutting a guy down at the first sign that something makes him nervous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 06:15 PM
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Jp?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 03:25 PM
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Im not gonna read the whole post lol. But often if I explain my dating teouble to women online they just tell me girls dont like me cause Im bitter. Its dumb cause how I am online isnt how I am in real life. Theyre different contexts. In person Im friendly and upbeat. It definitely improves my social interactions compared to being closed off and negative. But lol nobodys gonna fuck me just cause Im happy. Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 03:23 PM
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America
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:19 AM
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Tue but its better than not being wanted at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:26 AM
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You think? I was actually pretty surprised how much her complaints mirrored mens usual complaints. I related to her experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:21 AM
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Women are just setting themselves up for disappointment then. Most suffering stems from having expectations that dont match reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:00 AM
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45k for a single person is decent. Not amazing but youre not impoverished. I definitely see obesity as a negative and making the median income as neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 03:39 AM
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Yeah but its not even about your position relative to others. Being obese is objectively unhealthy even if its relatively common. Being 5' 8" is not a real impediment in any significant way. Women who think that is too short are being superficial. Or having an income of 45k. Somebody with that income is middle class and can pay for all their needs. Sure theyre not rich, but theyre fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:10 AM
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Oh youre right I misread. My bad. For money goes further in some places rather than others. I just wish women would care less about your current income and screen instead for guys who are ambitious and responsible who are likely to earn a higher income as they age. Most people dont get 6 figure jobs right out of high school or college, but many work there way into them as they get a but older.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:06 AM
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If you narrow your age range enough you will always be in the "1%".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:39 PM
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Correction: I think 7.2% is the percentage of ALL men that meet those criteria including the one for age. I find this very frustrating. I almost perfectly match those standards, and it's somewhat obvious to me that these that Im doing well for my age. I feel like objectively Im a decent choice for a partner. But based on how women treat me I feel like Im in the bottom 10% of men. Just look at income for example. In 2019 the median income for all working men is 44k. I make about 45k and am pretty…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:35 PM
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I mean youre free to make that decision. But dont expect men to give a shit about any of your issues when you dont csre about theirs. Women often want a guy who is able to support them emotionally but not do the same back. And I dont know where this idea came from that relationships are supposed to be devoid of emotional intimacy. I really feel that in any good relationship both partners should be able to feel comfortable expressing themselves, their positive and negative feelings and both shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:03 PM
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Its not. But men arent going to respect women that cant be there for them when theyre not at their best.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:04 PM
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Women don't care to help a guy gain confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:22 PM
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I keep hearing this from women and I havr to explain to them no lol women don't just show up out of nowhere. Maybe guys show up out of nowhere. But as a guy if you want something you have to make it happen.
/r/seduction15/07/21 12:09 AM
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This makes more sense. I guess its contextual. Somebody can have a high status in a given environment, but not in other places. Ive definitely noticed this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:59 PM
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Oh yes everything bad is because of men even mens issues. I forgot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:52 PM
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Fair i think both genders have their own struggles. The issue though is that there are movements and awareness towards female issues. Theres is none with men. Prejudice towards men is still largely seen as justified. Prejudice towards women is being challenged
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:14 PM
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Do you have a photo example?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:12 PM
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I think generally people focus on negatives. Theyre quicker to note your bad deeds than your good deeds.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/21 05:11 PM
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This is pretty circular. Like an average guy has a middle of the road, aka average face? No shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:59 PM
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I go back and forth on this. While I believe that this may be the case for me, I able to do fine professionally. I've actually bren one of the better workers is customer service jobs I've had. And maybe I just have bad judgement, but other people often strike me as having poor social skills when I talk to them. I often feel that I am doing most of the work and trying to bridge the communication gap. I think that perhaps better at dealing with total strangers than most, but perhaps not as good at…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:55 PM
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This blackpill stuff is out of hand lol. I look at her and I think "obese", simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:10 AM
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Its really hard to tell without knowing what she looks like skinny. Also there is more to attraction, or leagues than just looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:59 AM
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A lot of it is out of your control, but a decent amount of it is. Be in decent shape, wear clothes that fit you properly and go together, learn to be friendly and socially outgoing, have good hygiene (including hair and skin care).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:45 AM
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Yeah. Be open about what you want and don't pursue people who arent aligned with that. This is perfect advice for everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:49 PM
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As a straight male the guy is definitely better looking mostly cause the woman's weight. Also idk about either persons other qualities which can affect attraction. Although I will say that the long hair and beard is a look that only some women will like.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:45 PM
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Are you a guy or girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:40 PM
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Yeah wtf? Guy is a little nervous and she writes him off completely. Women like this push away decent men who know better than to deal with women who will berate them at any hint of weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:35 PM
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Lmaooooo meek and self defeating? Why would any guy want to date a girl that takes any nervousness as meek and self defeating? Nervousness is often overcome. But if I know a woman has such a low opinion of me from the start why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:34 PM
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I suspect this but I wonder if there are any studies on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:34 PM
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Both. The effort is the bigger issue for me right now. If I can even get a woman to agree to plans to me there is like an 80% chance theyre still gonna flake. Its a huge waste of my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:34 PM
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Have standards then and dont have sex without some sort of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:33 PM
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I support people having individual autonomy. I wish that dating was more egalitatian.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:42 PM
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I didnt say I want feminism lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:34 PM
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Is this true? Have a source? Ive actually been wondering what sort of disparities exist for more "innocuous" traits like height or hair color or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:31 PM
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Feminists by and large dont want egalitarianism. They want restorative justice. Women are perfectly free to ask men on dates or offer to foot the bill. Most don't, though most claim to be feminists. They want the the pros that come with less restrictive gender roles, but they dont want any of the responsibility. Of course im generalizing. Some women are legitimately egalitarian but they are they minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:25 PM
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I actually already do this. Im a healthy weight but I dont go to the gym or work out at all. I have hobbies like playing guitar, dancing and photography. Dancing is the only thing thats really social. The other things I do alone and I find I never get to talk to a girl enough to tell them about my hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:10 PM
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Idk what were disagreeing on. Do you want a guy that puts more into the relationship than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:57 PM
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Im not saying you have to account for every deed done. But Im not gonna date a woman who I feel puts in less work than I do. Its that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:52 PM
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I identify as a woman lol. Also of course women can respond and give their thoughts as well. Im just trying to start a discussion. Why does it matter who I am? A woman could just as easily ask the same question and elicit the same answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:44 PM
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What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:31 PM
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Its not about every single thing being 50/50. Its about the relationship overall being 50/50 whether that means I earn all the money and she does all the housework, or i do half the housework and earn half the money and she does the same, or anything in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:31 PM
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Especially when you get a few years down the line. How many college educated 32 yr olds are actively learning new things? People get lazy. Your ability to complete a degree isnt really indicative of the state of your intellect 10 yrs later. Also most college educated people I know arent well rounded. They learn their field of study and quickly forget the classes they take that dont pertain to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:28 PM
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Children develop though. The hope is that while they are objectively inferior to you now, you can raise them well so that they can be your equal or perhaps better than you some day. I dont see much fullfilment in a woman who is perpetually inferior and will never grow.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/21 04:23 PM
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Checkout /r/fakedisordercringe and note how 95% of the people posted are "nonbinary afab"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:06 PM
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There are still more people who would date trans people than there are trans people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:04 PM
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I saw some video of this "non binary" girl showing the difference between her masculine days and feminine days. Her masculine day was literally her just wearing a hoody lol. She should pick up a construction job on the weekend and pay for dates if shes really nonbinary. Of course she wont. Its all superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:03 PM
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Its definitely not the only women can show interest. Im happy to wait if there are other legitimate indications of interest. But I need more than like texting. Lots of guys have been invested in a woman emotionally and thought their friendship was indicative of the possibility at something more. Then all the sudden some other guy swoops in and dates her and you get friendzoned. If a girl will kiss me, hold hands, hang out with me in person often etc Im willing to wait. But there has to be more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:47 PM
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I definitely feel like women are picky about their types. They want more than an attractive guy. They want an attractive guy that is also their type. Ask women if random celebrities and watch them tell you how x is gross and y is hot as fuck despite them both being like 9s. Anecdotally ive experienced this with my beard. Lots of women do not like long beards but a few women love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:40 PM
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I mean yeah. Most guys are just told that like be good guy, respect women and youll find the girl for you. Then all the sudden tou realize that those arent even prerequisites its for dating women, nor are they appreciated. Youre appreciated for what you can provide, and what kind of lifestyle you can give to a woman. Most boys arent told this. Maybe girls are, im not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:31 PM
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Enforcing your standards and boundaries is a constant struggle that youll face with almost everybody that you know intimately.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:28 PM
1

Same shit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:21 PM
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Like others are saying the word discipline is maybe confusing in this context. Its not about putting her in the corner until she knows what she did was wrong, its just about having proper boundaries. Like if a woman is shitty to you be willing to walk away. If a woman tries to start fights with you for no reason dont engage. Show them that they will not get what they want by acting in a bad way. I actually think this is how children should generally be raised as well. Its less of a punishment l,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:17 PM
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Props on the honesty and introspection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:09 PM
1

Ok so you agree with the red pill then? And the point of it being named the red pill is that men arent generally taught this at a young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:04 PM
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I sadly agree with you. What it takes for a woman to have a good body is basically just being slim. For a guy to have a good body he has to objectively have a great body. Being slim as a guy is neutral at best. I have to remind myself that my value relative to hers doesnt matter. Its about my value relative to other men. Its unfortunate though to meet certain standards knowing that any prospective partner likely does not meet those same standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:36 PM
1

You don't think that women generally marry up in terms of social and economic status?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:33 PM
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My standards are basic. Theyre ones I fit myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:19 PM
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Honestly highschool is very different from bring an adult. I didnt notice most red pill truths in my own life until I was around 20 or so. Its a much more level playing field in highschool.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:03 PM
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This is so hard to articulate with womrn. There is just a constant hostility that people display towards you as a groen adult. Its very subtle, but its hard to deal with. Ive gone to like hobby clubs with a female friend and just the way we are treated is just completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:01 PM
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Not really. Just look at actual studies and stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:58 AM
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Is college really a good indication of academic interest? I honestly feel that the minority of those attending college are actually inquisitive people interested in learning about the world. They just go cause they think that if they dont go theyll be a loser. I on the other hand dropped out of college and consider myself fairly intellectual and a learner. College is honestly just a lot of busy work and I felt it was not a place for people who were seriously interested and learning and understan…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:55 AM
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If all you care about is being a well rounded individual exposed to different ideas on different topics then you can buy a couple books and join free local clubs centered around what youre interested in. Universities are no longer the gatekeepers of knowledge, anything you can learn at a university you can learn online or in books for much cheaper. There certainly is such a thing as a degree that isn't worth the money and time spent on it. Knowledge has value but at a certain point it isnt worth…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:32 AM
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If you want children, a good partner/father is a must in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:26 AM
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Well its dumb to assume that my three options as a guy are all good while all 500 of your options as a woman are bad. I would say my assumption was more reasonable. The point is the three options I have as a guy aren't any good. So I have to work on expanding the number of options that I have. There is a much smaller likelihood that you have no suitable options out of a group of 500.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:39 AM
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Lol youre fine with it because youre a woman. Id go as far as to say that most men struggle with online dating. Hypergamy is the name of the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:29 AM
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As if I havent. I still believe IRL is the better way to meet people, but most women I know dont fit my standards. I mean just consider the agre range I wanna date of like 18-25. That on its own eliminates like 90% of people I know and interact with. Plus its like 30% of women in that age range are actually single.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:27 AM
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Yeah I dont know if women truly understand how different the experience is for men and women. Like Ive read plenty of peoples stories about getting a few matches a year and one date over 3 years or something. I personally get maybe one match a week and basically no dates. I think i could convert more dates if I wanted to, but the attitude of most women on the app makes me not want to. All you can do is take good photos and hope for the best. Nobody even reads bios. At least with talking to peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:36 AM
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Why is everybody here so obtuse? Imagine 1/500 people are people that you could happily marry and build a life with. Now would you rather have 500 people to find that 1/500 person from? Or 3 people to find that 1/500 person from. Its simple math. The fewer options you have the less likely you are to find the person you want. The more options you have the harder it may be to vet them or sort through them, but there is a higher likelihood that the person you want is in that pool of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:29 AM
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Really my whole long ass comment and thats all you can write? Of course nothing is guaranteed, but the point is that its not like youre doing a little work for sex. Its more like youre doing a lot of work just to get flaked on and have girls tell you theres no chemistry. Its just a massive amount of work to put into something with a hypothetical reward that you dont ever actually win.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:24 AM
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Some girl slapped my ass at work so I told my guy friend in a tongue and cheek way that I had been sexually assaulted. I went on to explain that if I had done it to her it certainly would have been called sexual assault. He just laughed at me saying "you dont really think you were sexually assaulted do you?"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/21 01:16 AM
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Its simple really... would you rather choose your partner from a pool of 500 people? Or a pool of 3 people?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:04 AM
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The issue is that nothing is guaranteed. Its not like I ask one woman on one date and get fucked. Its more like I talk to 100 women to find 10 that would go on a date with me, 9 of them would flake, 1 would show up then realize theres no chemistry. This is a bit exaggerated but not much. Its ridiculous the amount of women you have to talk to to make anything happen. Ive recently had the realization that if I want to have a relationship or sex I have to cast a wide net and talk to a ton of women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:02 AM
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Im curious how poor your looks are because honestly even below average women get attention. My biggest peace of advice would be to put yourself in situations where other men are approachable. For example one of my hobbies is Salsa dancing and I think most women there will have guys flirt with them and ask them on dates and stuff. Its a good environment too because its a little bit more classy, people arent really looking for one night stands and stuff. I generally find that women who receive lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:38 PM
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I think you missed his point. Hesnsaying that a lot of "incels" are men who are unwilling to compromise on certain standards. Id consider myself an incel, but for example I once had a chance to fuck a drug addicted girl who wanted to cheat on her bf. Thats is not what I wanted though. Maybe other men could compromise for a quick smash, but I couldnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:22 PM
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I think you missed his point. Hesnsaying that a lot of "incels" are men who are unwilling to compromise on certain standards. Id consider myself an incel, but for example I once had a chance to fuck a drug addicted girl who wanted to cheat on her bf. Thats is not what I wanted though. Maybe other men could compromise for a quick smash, but I couldnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:22 PM
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Im kinda struggling with this myself. Ive kinda considered myself an incel for a while. But recently Ive been thinking that I have had some opportunities to lose my virginity. Maybe if I were more ok with crazy women, women that had bfs, if I were ok pursuing drunk women and party girls, if I were ok with being a bit more pushy and persistent etc. Ive been realizing that I am a volcel that doesnt want to compromise on certain standards. Although its not like my standards are ridiculously high, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:15 PM
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Ive had a lot of interactions similar to this where I just dont understand what I could have done wrong. I think women just have weird unrealistic standards that they are unwilling to compromise. Like theyll judge you for the dumbest thing and use it to reject you.
/r/seduction10/07/21 04:58 PM
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I looked it up and Im surprised to say the least. I doubt there is much better data. I mean even if the number was double it would be small.
/r/MensRights10/07/21 04:17 PM
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While I think this deserves a deeper analysis, but at the same time you often told by women that they have in the back of their mind that they could literally be murdered for saying no to a man. This kinda goes to show that the fear of being murdered is basically unwarranted.
/r/MensRights10/07/21 02:03 PM
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Is that the real number? 1600 women total were killed by men in the US? Thats like unbelievably small.
/r/MensRights10/07/21 01:57 PM
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Most guys do not give a shit about lip fillers, huge tits, your makeup, your weird overdone eyebrows etc. As women say they "dont do it for men" they do it for themselves. Yeah men dont care about most of that. Likr be pretty, in shape, and have a bit of dress sense and youre good to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:52 AM
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The worst offenders probably do more than their share of creeping as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 07:11 PM
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This is so frustrating to me. To have a good body as a guy you have to have an exceptional body. To have a great body as a woman you just have to not be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:53 PM
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I mean if shes fit yeah. I dont even care about armpit hair lol. I prefer a girl who is natural but takes care of herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:52 PM
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Yes exactly. I find that Im rejected often for dumb things about my appearance right off the bat so that any good qualities about me that have to do with my character or personality aren't considered. I mean stuff like being perceived as short for being average height, having facial hair, my race, my hair style etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:48 PM
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I mean while their are commonalities I do find this study to validate anecdotes in my own life. For example having a beard is often very hit or miss. In my experience most women find my beard unattractive and some find it very attractive. Things like this can I either seal the deal for you or be a total dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:34 PM
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What's the source for 5? Or at least, whats the phrasing I need to look up to find the stat?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:33 AM
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If youre a woman lol. I honestly see myself making 100k a year before losing my virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:08 PM
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Ok do you believe the same for wealth inequality?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:58 PM
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I mean in relative terms yes but capitalism for example has raised the standards for everybody. So sure there is always gonna be the bottom tier of people that gets less sex than everybody else. But it doesnt mean that they have to get no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:05 AM
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I dont get why people downplay this. Its more than Just casual sex. Its also about having relationships with people, procreating, being validated etc. These are all things central to the human experience. Like the need for human connection is probably the biggest desire for people after they have like food and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:14 AM
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I dont get why poor people both, redpill and bluepill get on bored with this. It would allow women to find better partners and it would allow men who are good partners overall but maybe just average looking with average charisma to have a shot with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 02:31 AM
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This high? In my experience its been like cancelled 90% of the time. But if youre experiencing cancellations 70% of the time thats not so far off. How do you handle this. Ive stopped trying as its just ended up being a huge waste of time to try to make plans.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/21 07:37 PM
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Do you know what a 30 yr old looks like? Like yeah college girls aren't dating 50 yr old. They are definitely dating 30 yr olds though. 30 is not old especially for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:53 PM
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You should should tell her "you know you can say "no" right?". I did that once. A girl kept flaking and I told her "If you've changed your mind you can just tell me so." And she admitted she didn't want to.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/21 04:50 PM
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Do you or your friends ever sag yes to plans and come up with an excuse why you cant go last minute. I can take a hint, but my issue is women dont even give me hints. They agree to plans then flake last minute.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/21 04:46 PM
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Im curious if anybody else has my experience.... Ive asked girls out and I typically I get a concrete yes and then an excuse the day of. Is this typical. I find it very frustrating. I can take the sort of hint that OP is being given. But i don't know how to deal with women who agree to plans only to flake last minute.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/21 04:43 PM
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Its not like college girls dont date 30 yr old guys regularly lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 05:44 AM
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Probably because theyre not reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:34 AM
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Is anybody gonna mention how much more likely women are to use filters that smooth out their skin and photos? Most men arent using filters.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:00 PM
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Chances are there is some sort of down payment assistance program where you live. Use that and save your 30k for closing costs and an appraisal gap provision on any offer you make.
/r/MGTOW24/06/21 02:06 AM
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A ton of women have rape fantasies and want to pretend they are being forced. Ive heard stories of women acting like they dont like something and then get mad when the guy stops.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 10:21 PM
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Really though you have to be in the top 5% just to get this? Like I didnt even specify how good their body is other than not fat, and I didnt say anything about their face or their character. I mean maybe things are just this competetive, but these are all standards I meet as a guy rvrn though I wouldnt consider myself in the top 5% of men. Maybe top 50% lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:02 PM
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I personally don't think theyre unreasonable at all. I meet them as a guy. But it seems to me that most women don't, or if they do they're already in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:41 PM
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Or theyll grow up in a poor household lacking guidance, join a gang, go to prison before theyre an adult... You know the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:23 AM
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Its very difficult to have any sort of casual or serious relationship with a woman at this point in my life. Thats why Im focusing on my career. Im really hoping option C is a possibility in the future, but I really dont know if its realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:08 AM
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I think its just about both people btinging something equal to a relationship. The issue is a ton of women think that their sexuality alone is worth a guy who makes 100k a year or something. Its not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:40 PM
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I also grew up poor and am working my way up in my 20s. Its just devastating to think oh maybe at 30 a girl will take interest in me after Ive done all the work and theyve had all their fun. Its just two totally different trajectories, it seems unfair that well end up in the same place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:37 PM
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How do women keep fucking deadbeat dads? What are they thinking? "I know he abandoned his last 30 kids but I know he's gonna stick around for me."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:26 PM
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I get a feeling this is part of the reason I have trouble. Im not looking for the perfect girl, but Im not into girls who smoke/vape, are lowkey drug addicts, who wear excessive makeup, who are fat, etc. I honestly think this rules out most single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:19 PM
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Im in a similar position and I struggle myself. I dont think the money really matters though. The girls who are rejecting you now dont know anything about your financial status.
/r/seduction11/06/21 09:30 AM
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Personally I wouldn't do anything drunk that I dont already want to do sober. I dont really buy the idea that alcohol makes a guy a rapist. If he raped somebody while drunk he likely wanted to before being drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:51 AM
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I can't even get dates to pay for lo. The great of men being violent is a bigger detriment to me than paying on dates would be. Plus me not paying isn't really a perk. It's fairly neutral. A perk would be if she paid for my food.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:48 AM
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Lol legit you want a guy to wait until he has children with you til you show him your worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:42 PM
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Not that much at least. You know how many girls a guy has to talk to to find the one? Look if I dont know you Ill invest $5 so you can get a coffee while we chat. But $100 is for a nice dinner with a girl I already know and love. Most guys cannot afford to take every girl hes interested in on a $100 date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:40 PM
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I would prefer a woman who is visually feminine, fairly modest, has a low body count and doesnt "party". I dont mind if a woman has career ambitions, but if she does were going halvsies on bills. I don't mind a woman who is social, but I dont want a party girl who is getting high/drunk every weekend. Its fine if shes not a virgin but as somebody who is fairly inexperienced myself I dont want to be with somebody who has a high body count. I dont really care to dominate a woman. I just want somebo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:27 PM
1

To clarify how much do you want him to make minimum?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:18 PM
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Whatever your husband wants? But what will you do early in the relationship to show your value. You want a guy to invest up front in a woman who wont invest in him until hes financially and legally entangled with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:17 PM
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This is how women get stuck with low class guys. They date guys who spend all their money on consumption in order to impress women out of their own desperation. Guess where that money isnt going. Most well off men know better than to buy $100 dinners on the weekly, for women who probably wont work out. They save and invest that money instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:06 PM
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Bruh anybody can buy you a 10 dollar meal. Its not a sign of being a provider. I know many people who are very generous and can barely take care of themselves let alone somebody else. Lots of guys try to impress women with these sorts of shows of wealth or status but arent even self sufficient. And if youre interested in traditional roles, do you plan on cooking for him for your second date to demonstrate your ability to be a homemaker? Doubtful. As Kevin Samuels says do you want a husband or a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:56 PM
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Sure but as a guy I am always prepared to pay my part. Often people will be nice and offer to cover something for me, but I never take it for granted. I just take note and repay the favor the next time I see them. Entitlement is unattractive. I might choose to pay for your meal out of generosity, but my generosity is generosity, not some sort of debt that you are owed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:48 PM
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Also though women should perhaps have more of an investment mindset with men. They want a guy making 100k when theyre 20. Which there are very few of. There are guys making 50k at 20 that will make 100k at 30. You should look for somebody that has predictors of that sort of income.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 12:38 PM
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If you have a provider youre not independent. Those things are contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:47 AM
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Ask her out for drinks again and go from there. If she loses interest, dont feel bad, women are fickle.
/r/seduction09/06/21 04:09 AM
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I realized this recently. A girl coworker slapped my ass once. I have older women tell me to smile. But the big thing I realized recently is that women will intentionally graze my ass and crotch and bars and clubs. I thought it was accidental at first, but it kept happening and I asked some other guys if they had experienced the same and they said yeah it's normal.
/r/MensRights09/06/21 03:54 AM
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Right? Online dating for a guy is like "I know I'm not a 10 but is literally nobody attracted to me?" Meanwhile women have the opposite experience and start thinking theyre 8s when theyre 4s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:37 PM
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I think its a combination. Certainly bring exposed to porn at a young age and having it so easily accessible through technology has some affect, but I would certainly prefer to be intimate with a girl irl than watch porn these days, but Im gonna fall back on porn if I cant find a real woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 02:15 AM
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Bruh this is my life. Its always an enthusiastic yes and it never goes anywhere. Ive had them "change their mind" a couple times, but most of the time they just flake the day of. I think some women are just afraid to reject anybody honestly to their face so theyll say yes then cancel over text cause its easier. And i think some girls probably just get nervous themselves and cqnt follow through.
/r/seduction08/06/21 02:07 AM
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One thing I realized is that female promiscuity is not equally distributed. When women start sleeping around more they are doing so with the same few guys. This is why guys dont like girls who sleep around. It just strenthens the AF BB dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:34 PM
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I'm the same boat
/r/seduction07/06/21 06:22 PM
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I relate to this. Once I realized my efforts at dating were basically futile I put a lot more focus on my career. Id rather be rich and lonely than poor and lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:13 PM
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Sometimes peoples short term wants are malaligned with their mid to long term goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:54 AM
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No as I said I think this would be the optimal solution for most people, men and women included.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:47 AM
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In my experience most women dont like my beard, although thats just anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:33 AM
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100% this. Not to sound conceited but I find it hard to have emotional and intellectual connections with most women and most people in general. People just don't relate to me. In comparison I can find women who I find sexually fulfilling. Its not that I dont want an emotional connection, its just that its so much harder to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:15 AM
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Im still on my come up and this is pretty much what I fantasize about doing haha. I dont resent women my age specifically. Its more that I resent women my age with a lot of "experience". Once I am in a position to be looking for a relationship Im gonna be going after somebody with a similar body count to me (0-3 partners maybe). And i think im more likely to find that in somebody who is younger than somebody whos is in their mid 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:23 PM
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Its odd to men that.men and women tend to have such different views of this. I dont think that most women realize how self conscious and cautious most guys are about expressing their interest in women. Women act like guys will blow up on them if they reject them but personally Im fearful of having a negative public image.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 04:40 AM
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Id say most guys are simps though. Women have the upper hand right now. They can afford to be sluts theyll still have plenty of guys giving them the constant attention and occasional sex that they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 08:44 PM
2

If you can. Most women can exploit theit sexuality. Like 1 in 20 men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 11:00 AM
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Lol is this sarcasm? I mean i dance with like 20 girls a night and Im still a virgin so its fairly platonic. I dance with girls that have bfs and husbands so just cause somebody dances with you doesnt mean theyre interested in you sexually you know?
/r/seduction03/06/21 10:58 AM
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Call her bluff. Tell her to go find another 9 then. Shes with you for a reason. Youre not holding her captive so if she thinks that there are other men out there who as a whole package are more attractive shes free to go get them
/r/seduction03/06/21 10:36 AM
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They dont have to care. Im literally so lonely that i just want to be near a woman. They dont even have to love me, but sex or even just hand holding would be of comfort to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 07:50 AM
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Dont even try. Its just a distraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 07:47 AM
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Idk i think the number of men who are ok with pedophilia is small. I dont think this comparison makes any sense lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 03:43 AM
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Thank you. I heard this girl complaining about how she didnt like virgins because they didn't know what to do. She didnt have a great time with the one virgin she fucked.... when she had sex for the first time. So neither of them knew what they were doing but she just put it all on the guy. Im super open to learning what a girl wants and adjusting what im doing in order to turn her on. But that only works if a woman is open about what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 03:37 AM
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Thats because there is already a decent baseline standard of living in America. Wealth inequality realistically isnt a big deal when nearly everybody still has a place to live, can buy food, etc. But with in the context of sexlessness we are talking about not only inequality, but inequality where a significant number of people are totally sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 03:18 AM
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I mean some people are willing to use force. Not me. But the idea that it simply wont happen isnt true. People can only be denied something for so long without any valid recourse before the idea of force becomes more an more appealing. Again I dont think it will be en masse. But people who are violent tend to be disproportionately so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 03:14 AM
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I keep having this conversation with people who seem to think that generalizations are inherently illogical or wrong. There is this interview with Jordan Peterson done by Cathy Newman where they are discussing the gender pay gap. He says that that is largely explained away by certain personal decisions that men and women make. For example men tend to invest more heavily in their career while women tend to cut back on their career as they age so that they can have a family. Cathy then says "Well …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:27 PM
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How is nobody else calling this stalking? If a guy asked, "hey this girl ghosted me so I started going to her gym and supermarket hoping to bump into her and rebuild the connection" people would call that stalking. Right? Only exception is if this is a place that both people normally go.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 08:01 AM
1

This would be stalking if a guy did it right? Lol. Just ask him to hang out. Go where you normally go. But don't follow him around, that's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 07:57 AM
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Honestly the rp idea of only talking to women who are sluts for you is kinda a dumb standard in if you want a relationship in my opinion. You are cutting out a lot of women who might be good relationship material and understand that just cause they fuck a guy he wont commit, so they look for deeper compatibility before fucking. There is a difference betwren a girl who has a "you have to earn it" mentality and a girl who just doesn't want to have sex outside of a committed relationship. Sure a lo…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/21 12:49 AM
1

Receptive to being social I guess. Like i start a conversation with them and they are actively participating in it rather than just being dragged along.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:58 AM
1

Shouldnt it pretty much be the same number of calories and and out either way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:08 PM
1

Thank u for being honest, here at least. I have suspected this. I think most woman don't want to admit that they are just anxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 11:05 PM
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Thats why i think that you should really only put yourself in situations with men where you are not at their mercy unless you really really really trust them. My big issue is women acting like theyre in danger meeting a guy for coffee that having one night stands with guys off tinder. Like one is obviously a bigger risk. I think a lot of women have their priorities backwards. I talk to women act super skiddish when it comes to meeting guys on dates but i see them make other bad judgements all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:52 PM
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I really dont think so. I do have some women who are super receptive and friendly with me but they tend to be women who are already in relationships or just older women. I really think its a maturity gap. I think older women know how to set boundaries and look out for red flags and know what situations are dangerous and what situations arent. I think younger women are just bad at knowing that and are overly cautious with most guys except for those who they feel immediate attraction for. Ive aske…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:36 PM
2

No joke. Women would make all the same mistakes if they were put in the same position. Guys are expected have like superhuman levels are charm. Theres no forgiveness for awkwardness. I hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:29 PM
1

Ive mentioned multiple times in the thread that in my opinion women should be taking reasonable precautions like only meeting guys they dont know and trust in public spaces where they cant be taken advantage of. And it really is hard to tell especially as a guy who has grown up being told that "no means no" and about the necessity of affirmative consent. I really do need a girl to say "hey i want you to be dominant with me. This is my safe word. These are my limits. Etc".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:27 PM
1

Holy shit youre right im a dumbass. It should be 90% of women and 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:39 PM
1

Im saying u dont gotta like do a background check and get references from his mom and ex gf. Like any serious vetting is just not practical. Look for visible red flags sure. But the fact of the matter is there is a lot you cant figure out about a person through vetting which is why its important to just have a baseline level of caution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:36 PM
0

How do I not get #metooed?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:33 PM
1

Idk if you know how to do math but 45% of women + 10% of men = 55% of people = most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:32 PM
1

At this point women should be the only ones swiping.
/r/seduction26/05/21 12:07 PM
38

Sorry to inform you, the left no longer stand for equality. They stand for"equity".
/r/MensRights26/05/21 10:52 AM
1

It's good to have boundaries, but there is nothing wrong with being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:36 AM
0

Because the alternative is being more forward and assertive and playing #metoo roulette.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:34 AM
1

Are you autistic? I'm asking this unironically. Most women that I've talked to who put this much thought into something are on the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:25 AM
3

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:07 AM
1

Im saying that women should be less cautious to put themselves in situations like coffee dates in public and more cautious about having one night stands with strangers. If a girl meets me for coffee, she is not at my mercy. If i were a rapist I wouldnt get away with anything. However if I took her home to my place alone she would be at my mercy. I could probably rape her. The latter situation is one that requires a lot of trust and women should wait until they get to know a guy and trust them be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:50 AM
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I kinda think this is true
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:37 AM
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How are you gonna vet him to know if hes gonna follow you home? There is a limit to how cautious you can reasonably be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:08 AM
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Did this stuff happen to you in public? I would assume it wouldnt get very far if you are surrounded by other people. As a guy Im very aware that if I act this way in public Im gonna get myself in trouble. And waiting til you get home to reject over text isnt even that bad. Im personally fine with that. What I hate is women who just won't reject me. Theyll say yes to plans then flake last minute cause they dont want to reject me directly. And I hear this criticism a lot but the point is that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:07 AM
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If you have a higher risk tolerance thats fine, but at least be consistent. My issue is with women who take those sorts of risk but then act like meeting a guy for coffee is too risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:58 AM
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Yeah honestly, but be reasonable. If you are alone with a guy in an office and other people are right outside the door thats fine. Or if you are with a guy but in a public place youre fine. I would probably advise against one night stands for this reason. That is a situation where you would be at his mercy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:57 AM
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Ok vet them for obvious stuff but its very diffivult to know who somebody really is. Just dont put yourself in vulnerable positions so that even if he ends up being a bad guy, he doesnt have power over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:53 AM
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I have no issue with women wanting to not have one night stands and meet people in public settings. My issue is that women are inconsistent. They will have one night stands with shitty guys and have a bad experience, then be too afraid to meet for even a dinner date "cause they dont know who they can trust". Too many women are too open with the wrong guys and then put up a wall with normal guys. The solution is to just have a reasonable (not excessive) baseline level of caution with everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:52 AM
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I think that lots of women put up walls against most people and only let them down for people who are pushy. It's not so much that they are specifically rejecting respectful guys. They are soft rejecting nearly everybody and respectful guys respect that rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:47 AM
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I said this somewhere else in the thread, but women should just not put themselves in situations where they are at somebody else's mercy. Mass shootings are exceedingly rare. Don't meet somebody in a place that they could rape or abuse you without being stopped immediately, like going home with a guy on your own. Contrarily you shouldn't fear meeting a guy at a crowded starbucks midday.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:41 AM
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You dont need to vet. Just only put yourself in situations where you arent relying on somebody elses mercy for your safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:51 AM
1

Its not mens nature inherently. I suspect that if men en masse decided not to fuck women at all, youd probably see women start to rape men at higher rates. Those two points I made are analagous. When you have extreme inequality, and a system where people are unable to find success by following the rules, then eventually people will break the rules. This is true for wealth and for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:47 AM
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Idk whatat youre arguing for. I think we will live in a better society that values monogamy and long term commitment. Do you disgaree? Do you think youd be better off in a promiscuous non committal society?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:44 AM
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Well ideally marriage vows include promises to stay together and support each other in sickness and in health. Certainly not everybody lives up to these vows. But its better to have a society in which most people share these values and some fail to live up to them, than to live in a society where that does not have these values at all. I dont support the idea that men should cheat. But its up to women whether they will tolerate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:24 AM
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Its not even the majority. If like 45% of women benefit from the system and 10% of men benefit from the system then most people are happy. But still 45% of the population is a big opposition. I think one consequence of this would be an increase in rape. If a substantial population of men have zero access to sex through civilized means then some of them will resort to force. Its the same with extreme wealth inequality. If somebody thinks they arent able to build wealth through legitimate and volu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:18 AM
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Probably by having a sense of security. Having a good husband/father for your children is super important if you dont want to end up a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:14 AM
1

I do tend to feel that women in their early 20s are generally unfriendly and standoffish. Women in their late 20s and up tend to be much more personable and friendly. I still have 0 sexual success with either group though. But my theory is that young women tend to have social groups built around them fairly easily when they are in college surrounded by people their age who ptobably have similar interests. Once you get out of college and get into the working world social groups don't find you so …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 10:18 PM
1

Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:40 AM
1

I know, thats why I said Id wait a few months if its clear that were into eachother. I woulf not wait a year
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:30 AM
3

Lol yeah but not everything is about pussy. Even a straight guy is into a girl's face, her tongue, her hands, maybe her feet. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:29 AM
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Do you think most women think like you? I think you're focused on the right things and have mature point of view. But i wonder how common it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:12 AM
1

No you don't. I'm not gonna simp and give attention to a girl forever just hoping she'll fuck me. Im willing to wait a bit, but not indefinitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 04:46 AM
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I'm ok with that honestly. Idk how long Id have to wait but if we were clearly into eachother Id be happy to wait a couple months. The thing that is difficult though is nothing is guaranteed. I don't want to to put a year into trying to fuck some girl just for her to change her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 09:26 PM
3

I agree. I think the correct thing to do is to learn the value of peoples opinions. I care what my boss thinks of me because they keep me employed. I don't care what some random person walking down the street thinks about my shoes cause it makes zero difference in my life.
/r/TheRedPill20/05/21 05:37 AM
1

I really relate to this. I kinda grew up feeling like expressing feelings to a woman was harassment and I still haven't totally shaken it. But now I've come to realize that regardless of whether or not I believe it to be harassment, if I do not make my feeling known the chances of a woman expressing interest in me is very low. It kinda feels like I'm playing russian roulette. Like maybe I get a date and eventually fall in love, maybe she tells everybody I'm a creep and ruins my social image. It'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/21 05:38 PM
1

Are you a woman? Do you consciously do shit tests?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 09:26 PM
1

That's fair. I'd 100% be happy to go halvsies on housework if were also going halvsies on finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 08:20 PM
2

I also said that most people are not financially savvy. Most people, period, do not understand what it takes to be financially successful and what net worth means. So no most women do not understand it but neither do most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 07:56 AM
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I like what you have to say. Do you think that higher earning women want even higher earning men though? That's how it seems to me. It seems like most women regardless of their financial status don't want to play an equal role in terms of finances. But maybe im wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:11 AM
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This is pretty frustrating. Most people are not financially savvy and dont understand that most superficial shows of wealth don't actually indicate wealth. Yeah maybe he has a rolex but does he carry credit card debt month to month? Sure he has a nice car, but does he own it outright or is he leasing it? Maybe he makes a lot of money but how much does he save? I honestly don't think wealth matters as much as lifestyle. I think women are moreso attracted to certain lifestyles than they actually a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:08 AM
2

Do people actually believe this guy? Even if the story were true just ask her to leave.
/r/MGTOW212/05/21 04:32 AM
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Its not even a prerequisite. Women date shitty guys all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 06:50 PM
2

Thank tou for communicating!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 11:25 PM
2

I actually think Im on the other end of this. Never really been successful with women and am more focused on self improvement and improving my economic situation and such. I'd really like to have sex or date, but idk where to start. I thought i was gonna have a ho phase but when I tried I realized how difficult it is to compete with guys at the bar who are simply more charismatic in that environment than I am. And I dont want to fuck the ugliest girl there. And even if I did go home with somebod…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 09:42 AM
2

"thats rape by deception" "Being a deceptive person isn't rape." Choose one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 11:01 PM
3

Yeah? Then so is her wearing makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 10:14 PM
1

Yeah lmao watch men women end up with unmarketable degrees and student debt while men end up in good paying blue collar jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 03:21 AM
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I have asked before why women flake and I usually get the answer that women don't want to tell a guy no because every once and a while a guy will blow up on them or not take no for an answer. This really bugs mr because I do try to be mindful of how comfortable a woman is. I've asked them out when they are with their friends and I am the odd one out, and when I ask them out it's usually to like a coffeeshop midday. There is zero chance that I'm gonna get away with rape even if I tried in that en…
/r/MensRights24/04/21 11:02 PM
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Do you think that there is a rift between people like yourself and trans activists who claim want you to use neo pronouns and dont believe that being transgender is a medical issue? I'm on board at this point with the idea of of somebody having gender dysphoria and desiring to transition. Honestly Im also fine with people who want to incorporate more masculinity or femininity into their style. But what I cant understand is "he lesbians" or people who want me to use their made up words as pronoun…
/r/MensRights21/04/21 12:49 PM
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What about by 22?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:33 PM
2

I'm really surprised by this. If Im attracted to a girl Id be super flattered if they went out of their way to do anything for me. One time a girl bought me a drink and it really did boost my confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 11:03 PM
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They're just a bad option for dating. I have a lot of compassion for single mothers, but she'd have to be a real catch of she wants me to take on the responsibility of helping to raise another man's child. I don't hate them at all. I'm just much less likely to date one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:57 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 11:31 PM
3

Its frustrating cause Im a pretty honest person by default and Im only now realizing that Im often comparing my honest experiences with other peoples fabricated experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 12:50 AM
4

Can you elaborate on what skills you gained and how you increased your income?
/r/TheRedPill12/04/21 08:05 PM
1

Cause most people aren't future minded. They have trouble understanding the idea of growth potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:51 PM
4

This is what bugs me most about him. But I do enjoy seeing delusional women exposed who think they will only settle for a guy making 400k when then themselves are fat single moms whose last relationship was with a broke drug dealer. All of the callers I've seen have been black women and I honestly curious if other demographics have the same delusional expectations of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:47 PM
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I honestly think his math is off though. I'm fairly confident you could support a family of four on 100k a year or less. 300k a year is very well off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:39 PM
1

I also find the overemphasis on crying being ok to be a bit annoying. Like crying isn't the only way you can express your emotions. I can do that verbally. I almost never cry. I don't know why I don't, but I don't. It's frustrating to be told "it's ok for a man to cry" , but not have my feelings taken seriously when I try to express them verbally.
/r/MensRights09/04/21 11:21 PM
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