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That's a great line.
/r/MGTOW19/10/17 02:40 PM
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My man opinion/preference - Absolutely not. I'm not saying shave every day, obviously there will be stubble at times, but do not let it all go.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 09:32 PM
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I am pro-choice, but I've found that most pro-choice advocates (feminist, liberal types) are hypocritical about the topic. Read any discussion about whether men should have the right to abort financial responsibility, and they all resort to the same tripe "you should have closed your legs" type arguments you hear from the pro-life conservatives, telling men that they should take accountability for the product of having sex. I guess the hypocrisy totally flies over head. They are not real concern…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 09:12 PM
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I'm guessing it's from surveys - a. have you ever been victim of sexual assault b. did you report it? Of course, it only represents perception, not necessarily reality. It's like asking people what they think their IQ is, then releasing data saying "Average IQ in America is 140" based on what they say. You need evidence to prove what is.
/r/MensRights23/09/17 01:16 AM
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So when is the wedding?
/r/MGTOW21/08/17 02:47 PM
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No kidding. I'm not giving credibility to the study, but rather commenting on the implications of the language and markers used by those conducting it, and those defending it's conclusion. Shaming men for being low-value is why low-value men are usually dicks to begin with. It's a vicious cycle.
/r/MGTOW11/08/17 03:19 AM
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Haha
/r/MGTOW09/08/17 06:00 PM
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Another shaming tactic. Let's find a way to make the data fit our narrative, then hammer it home. If you're not super duper nice to us and cater to our every need, not only are you sexist but also a loser!! See this study of 163 games of Halo says so!
/r/MGTOW09/08/17 02:59 PM
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But feminism is so good for everybody!
/r/MGTOW09/08/17 02:42 PM
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"Listen, male. We don't want you to say anything. Just shut up. Your opinion means nothing to us, whether you're praising us or condemning us. Everything you say will be met with our disdain, so just shut the fuck up and let us take over the world under the guise of "equality"" -Subtext of every feminist, ever
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 03:49 PM
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Yeah fake, the reasons are usually "I fell out of love with him" or "I will always love him but he isn't right for me anymore" or something like that. If we assume it's true, here is what you can do, bitch. Take your lawyer salary and pay the man back the money he fronted you to get you where you are.
/r/MGTOW07/08/17 07:09 PM
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We are hairless apes.
/r/MGTOW07/08/17 07:05 PM
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Equality is fun.
/r/MGTOW07/08/17 03:37 PM
2

Guys get pushed and hacked in the post and get no call. Guys run into a still defender on the perimeter and get 3 free throws. Of course big guys want to shoot threes now. Who wants to work hard for a contested 2 point shot with a guy hanging all over you when you can step out and shoot a 3 point shot where they literally can't touch you or look at you the wrong way.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 06:19 PM
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Part of the problem is that the NBA has basically eliminated all contact on the perimeter while allowing defenders to be incredibly physical in the post. To post up would be a stupid strategy, because you have to score over a defender who can basically manhandle, and the best you can get is a contested 2 point shot. On the perimeter, all you have to do is run into a guy and snap your head back, and you'll get 3 free throws. The elimination of the post game was intentional on the part of the leag…
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 06:17 PM
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It's such a buyers market for women that they can pull shit like this. They basically say dance for me monkey. They assume they're the prize and so they don't even have to sell themselves. It's all about how you can serve and entertain them. You know what? Nooo thankss.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 08:39 PM
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Yeah, I can't wait to get married.
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 07:57 PM
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I could go the rest of my entire life without hearing or reading the term problematic language. When you see that in an article or hear it in person, tune out. Go make yourself happy. These fucks will never be happy. You give an inch (as this guy did), they'll take two. Feminists: "BIG WOMAN ARE BEAUTIFUL TOO!" Male feminists: "Yeah they are, my wife is big and beautiful" Feminists: "WOW THAT IS SO PROBLEMATIC" Fuck these cunts, for real.
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 05:16 PM
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Obviously these women are demons, but it's peculiar how 2 of the 3 called the girl a ho. It's always funny to me that "slut-shaming" occurs far more often in women than men. Both males and females know that these girls are whores. Why are we worried about shaming them again?
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 02:23 PM
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If: There is nothing wrong with a woman sleeping with a bunch of people Any man who cares how many men you've slept with is sexist anyways Then why are you lying? They know the shit is disgusting, and they will be rightfully condemned for it. That's why they want to lie about it.
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 11:59 PM
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There is always a guy willing to treat a woman like a princess. So much so, that if you don't wait on her hand and foot despite her utter lack of regard for your existence, she wants no part of you. If you don't give her endless attention and wait on her, she'll cheat on you and leave you. Even if you do give her all the attention she wants, there is no guarantee she won't get the itch one day and cheat on you and leave you anyways. At that point, we know the legal implications. You lose all you…
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 09:40 PM
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This reads like it's written by a man who used to be MGTOW but was seduced back to the plantation. Now he is trying to justify why it was actually the right choice. The common MGTOW trope about being one blowjob away from going back to the plantation seems fitting. The claim that MGTOW are generally unhappy and therefore their position must be rooted in some kind of protest is totally wrong. I found my peace without the societal goalposts of marriage, kids, etc. If society collapses because of i…
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 02:37 PM
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A couple thoughts: Too many ultra-educated women and too many "working class" men out there . How does this fit into the wage gap again? It's absurd how women becoming more educated still makes them the victim. It's getting comical.
/r/MGTOW01/08/17 04:01 PM
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We are basically wired to desire the opposite sex (or same sex for homosexuals). Discipline doesn't always win over desires. Look at all of the other self-destructive habits out there that people willingly partake in. Why does a recovered alcoholic go back to drinking? It's obviously a devastating life choice, but people still do it all the time.
/r/MGTOW01/08/17 03:54 PM
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Definitely. This is the shift in accountability that feminism has imprinted on men. She fucks up, but it's his fault for being angry about it.
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 05:38 PM
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Sorry bro. Many of us have been in the same boat. Look, be thankful you weren't legally attached to this girl. That's the huge silver lining. You can clean break. One of the hardest things for a man to realize is that women don't care about men near as much as men care about women. Men love women, women love children. Women see men as utility, even if it's emotional utility. You need to take care of yourself first and foremost. As far as your depression, it's inevitable. You're going through a l…
/r/MGTOW27/07/17 10:41 PM
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Admitting to 11 means probably closer to 20-30. You have to factor back in all the ones that "didn't count" like the halfway drunk, or pity screw, or her mind was not in the right place, or her dad just died, or he/she didn't finish, or it took place out of town with a complete stranger, etc. Those don't count to women. Women lying about sex is such a tacid admission that there is something wrong with having so many sex partners. If she didn't think it was wrong, she'd tell him the truth. If she…
/r/MGTOW27/07/17 10:26 PM
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I go now and then. It is an honest exchange of goods. It's funny when "normal" girls try to talk shit on strippers and porn stars, as if they aren't using sex appeal to extract resources also. At least the stripper is up front and honest about it.
/r/MGTOW27/07/17 07:04 PM
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Prepare thy anus
/r/MGTOW27/07/17 02:29 PM
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Yeah, I try not to lock myself into any "echo chamber" and so I frequently visit lots of subs of people I disagree with just to make sure my beliefs are well-reasoned and not merely a matter of indoctrination. Both BP and MGTOW have echo chamber issues, although I tend to think the basal observations here are more accurate. Red Pill is pretty horrible too though.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 09:20 PM
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I was perusing the BP sub and someone wanted this to be seen by the manosphere. So here it is. I think she's funny, I particularly like the term "vaj-jim-jam" haha. From a serious standpoint - Nothing validates MGTOW more than women dictating to you how you should serve them.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 08:52 PM
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It's comedy, so not to be taken too serious. Main takeaway from a serious standpoint is that it's always about what you can do for them, and never vice versa. Nothing validates MGTOW more than women dictating to you how you need to serve them.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 08:47 PM
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I love it, I really do. This is the 80/20 rule to a tee. There aren't enough "good" men out there (college educated, great salary, great-looking, well endowed, perfect balance of nice and asshole, etc).
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 06:28 PM
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A few fun years of being P&D is not worth the psychological damage it does for a lifetime. Not to mention the gradual devaluing.
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 10:15 PM
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She deserves all the pump and dumps she is due for before hitting the wall.
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 08:45 PM
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"The past, present and future is male" Imagine the feminist uproar. Sexism is definitely a one way street for these idiots.
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 08:30 PM
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/2. No problem /3. No problem, won't be pulling over to help /4. No problem, I'll take the stairs
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 08:21 PM
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Such bullshit, really sad to see well-meaning dudes get totally shafted. That's what is happening, and he has no recourse that doesn't involve losing a bunch of shit. This is the trap they've set up for men, where they have to pit their dignity against their assets. You're going to lose most of 1 of those things.
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 07:17 PM
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Oh just drop the case. It's not faiirrr she wasn't happpyyyy she didn't knowwww. Pussy pass in full effect.
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 06:02 PM
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Go your own way, don't mess around with women If you fail at 1, make sure you have had a vasectomy or at least use condoms you brought yourself. If you fail at 2, don't ever sign the birth certificate. Get a DNA test, and hope the state lets you off the hook. If you fail at 3, I'm starting to feel less sympathy for you, but conceptualize ways to make money under the table to keep payments low. If 4 fails and she comes after you for more money, figure out a country with no agreement with the USA …
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 05:54 PM
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It's never about what they can do for you, only what you can do for them. The marketplace is just totally fucked up. It's always a buyers market for women. The only way to not lose is to not play.
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 02:55 PM
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They could probably crane her in somehow.
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 02:52 PM
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Of course they do. These "progressive" women hate to admit that the "toxic masculinity" of male dominance really gets them going. They say they want men who will treat them like humans and be accommodating, but that does nothing for them sexually. But tread lightly gentlemen, the courts are turning. It's illegal to film the encounter, even in your own home. It holds no weight in court. In Canada, which is a good indication of the liberalism heading for the states, they ruled that evidence such a…
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 02:46 PM
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If she'll sign the release form
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 04:40 AM
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List of winners: The woman - she gets your resources, and gets to fuck who she wants. Best of both worlds. The "other" man - He gets to tear into your girlfriend no strings attached, and even if she gets pregnant, you're going to sign the birth certificate 100% anyways. All of us - entertainment Feminism - They get to point to your getting cucked as proof of such a positive and progressive arrangement making men happy. Try to look sincere when acting happy. Porn industry - Lots of cuck fetishes …
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 03:46 AM
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It really depends on how attractive you are. If you're in the 20%, the rejection and distant disposition would drive most women wild. If you're in the 80%, you're despicable for not praising her 24/7 like the other guys.
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 03:38 AM
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Marriage laws forced people into mere co-habitation. So the solution is to make co-habitation laws more like marriage laws? I swear, sometimes these people have no idea what people actually desire. If marriage is the problem, making other things like marriage will only create more problems.
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 03:27 AM
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Being a slut is easy, and using sex as a means to gain resources is what women do. Women know that better than anyone. Usually they slut shame out of jealousy though. Some girl beat her to the punch.
/r/MGTOW22/07/17 05:58 AM
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"Well-behaved women rarely make history" bumper sticker is such bullshit. I see it all of the time. It's one of the many countless examples of the double standard between men and women. "Well-behaved men rarely make history" - RAPPEEYYYY!!!!
/r/MGTOW22/07/17 04:10 AM
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I live alone in my own house too. It's fucking beautiful. I love your 2nd paragraph because this dude at work lives alone too and for the past year has been building a "man cave" in his house. And I'm like, why are you building a man cave? For me, my whole house is a man cave. He is now dating a single mother and I imagine she'll move in with him within 6 months. They'll get married within 2 years. It will be her house within 5 years. Happy trails.
/r/MGTOW22/07/17 03:15 AM
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Someone posted a comic strip here once with several scenes showing a woman buried in her phone, presumably on Tinder, IG, FB, etc, then the last scene being the man hopping on a computer and the woman shaming him for always playing games. Women are constantly, constantly, constantly buried in their phones. To criticize a man for playing video games is the height of being hypocritical.
/r/MGTOW21/07/17 12:17 AM
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Nobody seeks validation from women quite like TRP. Most blue pill dudes seek female validation pretty hard, but use the "good cop" method. Red pill guys use the "bad cop" method. At the end of the day they're both sexual strategies born out of the need to be wanted by women.
/r/MGTOW20/07/17 05:44 AM
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Have done both, can confirm.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 10:04 PM
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This won't end well for the guy.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 06:01 PM
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She was sleeping with the brother before the husband died.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 12:48 PM
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I usually appeal to a couple things. Firstly, the legal aspect is a strong and quick way to respond. I'll say I'm not really interested in marriage, they ask why. I usually say something about how marriage is a bad contract and I don't like the legal side of it, and my go-to "funny" line that I follow up with is that I get pissed off when my phone contract is more than a year, why would I sign any kind of lifetime contract? They usually nod in a somewhat understanding way when I say that. I will…
/r/MGTOW18/07/17 05:55 PM
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Also - this idea that nothing in the past matters is so absurd. Women will check public records and explore every avenue possible to dig up anything about a potential mate. They will try to figure out your money situation, criminal history, etc. Ask her one question about her sexual history though? So offensive!
/r/MGTOW18/07/17 05:36 PM
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There is no reason to ask, because they'll just lie about it. I've never met a woman who admitted to having more than 10 partners. Funny thing is, I met this girl maybe 5 years ago through a mutual friend. She is 38 or 39 now. We were all drinking one night, and the topic came up casually. She said she'd had around 10 partners. I can actually name 6 maybe 7 guys who had sex with her since I've known her. This means she'd only have had 2-3 partners until she was 34. She has been a single mother s…
/r/MGTOW18/07/17 05:31 PM
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That's different though. He obviously did something to deserve it right? LOL oppressive men deserve to get hit fuck yeah.
/r/MGTOW18/07/17 02:44 PM
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Very expensive? I would have asked how much? Butt stuff too or just normal services?
/r/MGTOW18/07/17 02:40 PM
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I mean, at the risk of man-splaining, can we not say I told you so? When men criticize the cock carousel and sexual deviancy, it's not just for own selfish reasons. Women almost always come out of it feeling like shit. Nobody benefits from you flaunting yourself like a piece of meat. Your young and slutty phase that is encouraged by the feminists does not come without a price. When men call slutty women damaged goods, it's not a physical thing. It's completely psychological.
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 06:59 PM
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Definitely a dick move akin to a woman lying about birth control, but re-defining rape to include "stealthing" is just taking us further down the slippery slope. They're never happy, and now people look at real rape victims wondering if it was the heinous kind of rape that is actually disgusting and immoral, or the liberal/feminist kind of rape where someone maybe looked at you wrong, or you regretted consensual sex the next day, or whatever.
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 06:16 PM
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TRP is a pick-up artist community.
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 05:40 PM
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Red Pill has many of the same observations, but comes to very different conclusions. RP wants to play the game, knowing it's rigged but using the tendencies of modern women against them to get a sexual thrill out of it. MGTOW wants to withdraw completely because the game is rigged and the thrill of seducing the modern woman is pretty hollow and meaningless, and quite frankly a huge waste of time.
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 05:11 PM
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They will try to ban porn eventually. It's lured too many men away from the plantation.
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 04:02 PM
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Yes, women still expect men to pay. In fact, studies show that most women won't seriously date a dude who makes less than her. I've heard some great mental gymnastics, even from feminists swearing by equality, for why men should pay for things. They spend longer getting ready. Pink tax. Wage gap. You know, all the usual buzz words.
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 02:56 PM
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Good distinction, often missed. Human is descriptive, person is prescriptive.
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 02:29 PM
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Yeah, but it's only men that dehumanize women.
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 02:24 PM
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This has to be satire. People assume that because I have a lot of male friends that I'm sleeping with all of them. Oh by the way, I have 6 kids from 4 different dudes. The only males you're not sleeping with are the ones turning you down.
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 02:21 PM
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Isn't this rape by the new liberal/feminist standards? Or is it only when guys lie about birth control?
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 02:17 AM
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Boom roasted
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 02:12 AM
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Don't use your fancy patriarchal calculators on me.
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 02:09 AM
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This is most domestic violence in a nutshell. Be the aggressor, play the victim.
/r/MGTOW16/07/17 05:39 PM
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I thought the video made accurate observations for the most part. The conclusion they come to is different, they want to save the paradigm and MGTOW want to wash their hands of it.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 07:13 PM
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Free market would provide a solution. Maybe a 3rd party that could provide straight males access to straight males in a very similar financial situation, and a standardized contract that is legally binding. All while keeping the men complete strangers. Just thinking out loud.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 06:51 PM
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We know the double standard. It is born out of women today not having to be accountable for anything. Men are held accountable for their decisions and mistakes, women are not.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 06:41 PM
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Not sure about the numbers, but I used to nod my head in agreement with feminist points, but it just got too crazy, too greedy. MGTOW is absolutely born out of absurd feminism.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 06:36 PM
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Born alone die alone. Some of the loneliest people I know are married. You can't be MGTOW without being at peace with yourself. It's sad to see people who have invested their future happiness in finding a partner that probably doesn't exist in the way they imagine.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 06:33 PM
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Men and women were intended to take care of each other. Women won't settle for a man who makes less money than her, so men shouldn't settle for a women who doesn't take care of him in other ways. But nowadays that's sexist. Women should apparently be able to date a man who makes more money, be supported financially, while not really bring any redeeming qualities to the table. No wonder marriage rates are plummeting.
/r/MGTOW14/07/17 05:58 PM
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Amazing how quick they "grow apart" when Chad is giving her attention.
/r/MGTOW14/07/17 05:24 PM
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You handled it well. I'm not a fan of the "FUCK OFF STUPID CUNT" approach a lot of guys endorse around here. The irony is, the more you say "I'm just trying to focus on my own stuff, my own goals, my own ambitions, my own finances" the more she wants your dick.
/r/MGTOW14/07/17 05:13 PM
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Even the most liberal and progressive women I've met will shame sexually inexperienced men. Sometimes they're good at holding their tongue, but I've seen them when the filter comes off after a few drinks, and it's the same sentiment. Virgin or sexually inexperienced men are pathetic. It's extremely rich because they are the same ones who lose their mind when you shame a girl who has had a lot of partners. Let's face it - men want a woman who hasn't fucked every dude on the block and women want a…
/r/MGTOW14/07/17 04:49 PM
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"Well behaved women rarely make history" - Haha feminism! Fight the patriarchy! "Well behaved men rarely make history" - WOOWWW SEXIST MISOGYNIST THAT'S SO RAPEY!
/r/MGTOW14/07/17 04:11 PM
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Feminism - The soul of our politics is the commitment to ending domination The spelled "establishing" like you would normally spell "ending"
/r/MGTOW14/07/17 02:13 PM
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If someone enjoys lifting, by all means. For me the work is not worth the reward. Time is not infinite. Some spend 2+ hours per day, which equates to a whole month of every year, at the gym. I spend 30 minutes 4-5 times per week on fitness in my own home doing pull-ups, dips, squats, dead lifts and HIIT. That hits all muscle groups and keeps the BF% low. I have friends who spend an hour or an hour and a half per day, plus the drive, plus preparation and all that, at the gym. That's like 2 to 2.5…
/r/MGTOW13/07/17 07:09 PM
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Nailed it.
/r/MGTOW13/07/17 07:03 PM
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Sadly, rape has been re-defined to mean even very mild offenses or arguably non-offenses. It's an insult to someone who has actually been raped, because now people wonder if it's the heinous kind of rape, or the neo-rape as defined by liberals and feminists. I read sometimes on TwoX or somewhere that drunk people having sex together are "raping each other" or "double rape" or some nonsense like that. What?
/r/MGTOW13/07/17 06:12 PM
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If she wants an open relationship, she's already cheating or has someone in mind. This particular girl admitted in the comments she haf a few people in mind. This approach by the guy is also really brilliant because there's no winning. If he simply says no and continues the relationship, she cheats anyway and blames it on him for being so close minded and not opening the relationship when she asked.
/r/MGTOW13/07/17 05:40 AM
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Feminists encourage women to fuck those men if they want, but also set legal traps for those men if they don't act in line. Never marry and get a vasectomy, yes, but nothing will protect against the rape charges.
/r/MGTOW13/07/17 05:15 AM
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MGTOW has no set ideology, it's a little different for every man as the name suggests. For me - I came from a liberal upbringing, indoctrinated into believing women are such wonderful beings and as a society we should be looking out for them because they're oppressed. As a kid, I was also chubby until early to mid 20's. I lost a bunch of weight, and started receiving extra attention from women. This was welcome at first, but didn't take long before it felt hollow because I knew it was simply a s…
/r/MGTOW12/07/17 11:53 PM
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Don't ever raise it to begin with. Just piss all over the seat.
/r/MGTOW12/07/17 10:02 PM
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To add insult to injury - while those men are in prison, their child support dues continue to accumulate. So they go to prison, come out with far less job prospects due to a criminal history, and have racked up an even greater bill.
/r/MGTOW12/07/17 02:53 PM
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BUT BUT BUT - Feminism is great for men too!!
/r/MGTOW12/07/17 02:47 PM
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Nice - as substantive as your OP.
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 07:59 PM
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Spoken like someone who feels threatened.
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 07:05 PM
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He isn't the one who went over to a sub that doesn't suit him telling them they're outlook on life is wrong. You obviously care what we think, for a myriad of possible reasons. I'll let you examine the why on that.
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 07:01 PM
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Don't save him, he don't want to be saved
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 12:26 AM
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Yeah, WTF did I just read? I mean, you're going to pepper spray a guy for brushing up against you in a crowded venue? God damn
/r/MGTOW10/07/17 11:04 PM
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That's a great reference.
/r/MGTOW10/07/17 03:51 PM
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The most common argument I hear: Why do you talk so much about women? Why don't you just go your own way already then? This is a valid observation, although not necessarily an argument against MGTOW ideas.
/r/MGTOW10/07/17 02:30 PM
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Worst part is, she has already set up the cheating excuse. He asks her out, she says he is too short, he insists anyways. Somehow they start dating, she fucks some other dude and he says WTF? She says I told you I liked taller guys and you didn't listen. Your fault dude.
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 04:12 AM
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She says she has seen more than a dozen 10+ inch black dicks, and a couple 10+ inch white dicks. Given how rare those are statistically, how many dudes has this girl fucked? If she has fucked around 15 10+ inch dicks, I'm guessing her overall number is in the 100s. But on the sex "studies" I'm sure she said 8-9 like every other girl. I always love when people cite self-reported sex studies like they mean a damn thing.
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 06:47 AM
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You're not considering anything. You've made up your mind. Every post you've made in this thread has been defending that decision. One point about looking at parents to project her ability to have success in marriage - they did not grow up in the same era and culture. Women now, even with marriage-respecting parents are so influenced by culture and female empowerment that using their mom as a reference is simply foolish. Good luck in your decision.
/r/MGTOW02/07/17 06:01 PM
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Modern women won't mess with guys without being courted. Women now force most guys to buy dinner and other shit to fuck them. Chad is the exception. He has a perceived sexual market value above the woman and so fucking him is its own reward to them. He makes her completely lack self control sexually. Red Pill calls it the top 20%. I think there are some objective factors at play (BF%, build, height, facial symmetry, genetics, etc) but one woman's chad may not be another woman's chad, and chad ca…
/r/MGTOW02/07/17 05:13 PM
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The conclusion of this study doesn't trouble me, it's the reaction to it. When gender was removed from the equation and all candidates could be evaluated fairly and only on merits, men were hired more. Since this was not the outcome they were looking for, they deemed it a bad practice. If women had been hired at a higher rate, they would have deemed it a great success and the outcome they were looking for. They are going about this in an incredibly biased way. They have already made their mind u…
/r/MGTOW01/07/17 12:19 AM
12

This entitled little bitch. Read her "NASA" story, it's even worse. The guy she is dating casually pays for his own dinner, movie and snacks but does not pay for her portion. After date 1, she is bothered but still fucks him. Date 2, he does the same thing, she is incredibly disgusted now, but still fucks him. After that, then she says to know your worth and don't settle for a guy who won't buy your shit. Sometimes I wonder if I'm too hard on the modern dating scene, but it takes very little tim…
/r/MGTOW29/06/17 10:03 PM
91

Men should be able to opt out of parenthood in the same time frame that a woman can have an abortion. At that point, the woman can decide if she wants to raise the baby alone, or if she should have an abortion. If she chooses abortion, they split the cost. That's what fair looks like. It'll never happen though, because the government is in too deep regarding using tax money to pay for the kids of single mothers, and giving men options would only worsen that. Either the man has to be accountable,…
/r/MGTOW29/06/17 06:34 PM
157

Great response. It's funny how "I didn't want you anyways, you childish cowardly little boy I need a real man" they get when they get rejected. You politely rejected her, she goes on a name-calling rant that she justifies by saying she is defending her daughter. You crazy, girl.
/r/MGTOW29/06/17 02:34 PM
1

I need better reasons than "just trust me"
/r/MGTOW26/06/17 02:14 PM
21

This is the type of woman who rejects men for being more than 15% BF.
/r/MGTOW26/06/17 02:57 AM
2

Well said this entire chain. This effect he is talking about is great for him, but it is manufactured by him so that's why he swears by it. I'll need to see some data or research before I believe 1 person's anecdotal benefits of repressing sexual urges. If it works for him, great, but that doesn't mean we will all experience the same effect.
/r/MGTOW26/06/17 02:52 AM
2

Elaborate?
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 03:21 AM
9

It's pretty funny that any time some feminist site posts some garbage like this, the only defense is to call it satire. Why would a feminist site parody themselves? These writers intentionally push the limits to gauge reactions, and if people call them on their bullshit, they can act like you're the gullible one for believing a feminist would write such a hard-line pro-feminist article. Own your shit.
/r/MGTOW23/06/17 09:54 PM
2

We never escape the desire for women but objectively viewing all of the factors at play, that are covered here and in MGTOW principles in general, can remind us of the cost. That doesn't mean some men wouldn't totally give in if the circumstances line up.
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 05:24 PM
2

This is true, and you are not immune.
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 04:15 PM
8

Stay the fuck away from women obsessed with rape fantasies. Men are sexually drawn to innocence and vulnerability, women are sexually drawn to power and aggression. Maybe there is something innate going on there?
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 03:07 PM
43

Roles reversed - you'd be fired. "You'd be a lot prettier if you lost weight" - FUCK YOU FAT SHAMING MISOGYNIST PATRIARCHY THIS IS WHY WE NEED FEMINISM!
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 02:47 PM
22

Open relationships are such nonsense. Why even call it a relationship? You're friends with benefits. You like the friendship, you like fucking sometimes, but don't want to be limited to fucking only that person.
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 03:11 AM
4

2nd part of his comment is mostly spot on honestly: Marriage is not just a hearts-and-flowers romantic event, nor is it merely a religious sacrament. It's also a binding legal obligation. The law in most states is now entirely egalitarian about it, although the outcomes are not, since in practical fact women suffer more than men. In any case, if you enter into a binding legal relationship without understanding what you're getting into, you're a fool. Most of these men have learned the hard way t…
/r/MGTOW21/06/17 06:40 PM
2

Go red pill for awhile. Red pill is extreme and not really my cup, but applying those principles in a quest to get laid all the time will really validate MGTOW principles.
/r/MGTOW21/06/17 03:24 PM
4

That's exactly what it means. The person who initiates the divorce ended the marriage. Otherwise, they are still married.
/r/MGTOW21/06/17 03:00 PM
1

This clearly just protects cheating whores from being exposed as such. White man and white woman are together, woman gets pregnant and the kid comes out Chinese, but hey guess what! Society says the white man is the father because a paternity test would only show that the woman is indeed a cheating whore.
/r/MGTOW21/06/17 02:51 PM
6

Women cheat as much as men. Women initiate divorce more because they know they'll get cash and prizes.
/r/MGTOW21/06/17 02:30 PM
2

MGTOW to me is doing things on your terms. For me that means: No marriage - it's a bad contract No kids - it legally ties you to the mother No cohabitation - I prefer my space No serious relationships - I want to be accountable to myself only That's just me. How others apply MGTOW might be different.
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 10:22 PM
1

Fair enough. While I agree there is a good amount of people shaming women who'd rather forego monogamy and be more open, there is also a fair amount of criticism of men being afraid to commit, men being called "boys" if they don't want to get married, men being told to man up, grow up, etc. From my perspective, if women want to be more open and non-monogamous, then I think it's fair to expect that men will do the same. As it is, men are chastised for not wanting to settle down with women who hav…
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 08:11 PM
5

It's not in itself bad or immoral, it just makes romantic relationships and marriage obsolete, given that sex/intimacy is the primary difference between a friend and a boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse. That's the effect. Maybe replacing personal intimate relationships with a more community-based model for sex is not a bad thing. I'm all for people having the liberty to make their own choices and choose their partners in whatever quantity they choose, but this does not mean they are immune to the effe…
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 07:02 PM
4

A person who tries a lot of different video games over the course of many years is going to be less likely to be able to go back to playing just 1 for any extended period of time. Variety is your new preference. Maybe you play one game for longer, or stick with 1 for a few weeks, or have a favorite, but staying with 1 forever is going to be extremely limiting. You can't un-taste the variety of foods you've eaten. I never craved flan until I had eaten flan. Now I crave it sometimes. I don't want …
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 05:56 PM
63

Many women think that if they shit on a nice guy enough times and get him to act like an asshole, it proves that he wasn't really nice to begin with. In reality, if you shit on anyone enough times, they're going to turn on you.
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 05:28 PM
56

Evidence she was raped not required Evidence she wasn't raped not allowed
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 03:17 PM
39

Your breath would smell like my dick if I hadn't rejected you.
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 02:53 PM
3

I agree - eating habits are similar to alcoholism. There are factors involved that make the addiction part of who you are. They simply can't be disposed of, they always exist in you to some extent. It can absolutely be conquered or maintained, but for those people, it requires constant attention. It has to be near obsession. If you think you can lose weight and the battle is over, you're going to get fat again.
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 02:38 PM
109

The part that is sweet justice, is that the new dudes giving her attention have no intention of committing at all to her. They just want to screw her. Once they do, she gets thrown back and feels used. She resorts back to her comfort zone, food, and gets fat again.
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 07:58 PM
1

It's too easy now to access potential partners, and we live in an age of sexual empowerment. People are encouraged to explore their sexuality. This makes it near impossible to settle with 1 person. This is why we're seeing more and more open relationships, because people want the benefit of a monogamous relationship without having to commit to 1 person sexually. Essentially, relationships are moving more and more towards the "friends with benefits" model.
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 06:55 PM
1

I'm not really looking for a relationship either. Monogamy is basically dead in the times we live in.
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 06:40 PM
9

I disagree with the conclusion. Fathers aren't abandoning their children because the mother isn't their soul mate. Fathers are basically pushed out of the picture by the mother and by the state. The father is left with a grossly limited and unsatisfying relationship with his child and the child spends the majority of their time with the mother, who very likely in that child's ear about who loves them and who doesn't. If your father loved you, he'd be here right? I'm here, I love you. Kids don't …
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 06:26 PM
3

I have friends that are women whom I love and care about. That doesn't make marriage and relationships any less of a shit show.
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 06:14 PM
3

Basically - it's not legally binding. It's something merely for the judge's consideration, but if the woman gives a sob story and judge buys it, the prenup is tossed out. Prenups are frequently thrown out because lawyers convince judges it was agreed upon under duress, coerced, or is simply too "unfair" to one of the parties. Or even if one party says they didn't understand what they were signing. It is not like a standard contract. Quite frankly, it's just a trap.
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 05:17 PM
24

Real men ask the girl on the date Real men pay for dinner Real men provide for their partner Real men get married Real men forgive her when she cheats because love Real men willingly raise another man's child Real men aren't insecure about her cheating again, because "finding herself" Real men wouldn't have made her file for divorce Real men pay their child support (even when the child isn't his) and alimony I'm kind of seeing a trend here. Boy over here, laughing my ass off at the "real men" wh…
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 02:56 PM
2

Killer combo
/r/MGTOW18/06/17 11:53 PM
17

This has to be fake. It has to be. EDIT - Yes it is, it's a parody.
/r/MGTOW18/06/17 06:50 PM
12

https://youtu.be/ZS6--6jL5r8?t=2m43s I lost a whole bunch of money, chasing bitches But I never lost no bitches chasing money, how real is that? Only time, a woman made a man a millionaire Was when that man was a former billionaire, how trill is that?
/r/MGTOW18/06/17 06:43 PM
2

Manspreading might be the most 1st world problem complaint I've ever heard from feminists. Aside from that whole "Men control the AC temperature in offices!" thing.
/r/MGTOW18/06/17 06:17 PM
2

Throw "toxic" in front of any morally neutral word and you have a societal problem that must be addressed! Toxic conservatives Toxic liberals Toxic Christianity Toxic Islam Toxic Netflix binge watching Toxic work schedule Toxic eating habits The tough task here is proving something is, in itself, actually toxic. That's the task that feminists aren't really up for.
/r/MGTOW17/06/17 11:38 PM
6

Cool experiment - I'm less surprised than I've ever been.
/r/MGTOW17/06/17 11:31 PM
14

They want 21st century rights with 19th century privileges.
/r/MGTOW16/06/17 11:39 PM
1

Body language and other communication signals give me a good idea. The problem is that you can't gauge those things fully until after the gesture.
/r/MGTOW16/06/17 11:33 PM
2

awww but theyre in loooovveee!
/r/MGTOW15/06/17 07:08 PM
3

This is a great comment illustrating how absurd the original statement is.
/r/MGTOW15/06/17 07:05 PM
5

GSW is too stacked. I am rooting for Cleveland but I don't see any way they pull it off in Oakland tonight.
/r/MGTOW12/06/17 09:51 PM
10

I have a buddy who has been married 15 years. Around year 7 his wife started cheating behind his back and despite confronting her several times, just couldn't get her to stop. Instead of holding her accountable and leaving her, he let her off the hook by saying she can't stop due to a psychological problem and self-destructive tendencies. They opened the marriage, and now she has a boyfriend and a couple of side dudes. My friend gets no action, even from his wife now (because she is sexually sat…
/r/MGTOW12/06/17 06:37 PM
20

Sexual empowerment and promiscuity are where monogamy goes to die. If you've had a lot of sexual partners, staying faithful to one person sexually becomes a foreign concept to you. It opens a door that can never be unopened. This is why in relation to increased sexual promiscuity, we're seeing a lot more open relationships. After experiencing more sexual partners, people don't want to limit themselves to 1 for the rest of their life. I am for freedom of choice, so if women (and men) want to slee…
/r/MGTOW12/06/17 05:55 PM
6

Semi-funny, but the spelling and grammar are atrocious.
/r/MGTOW11/06/17 09:35 PM
13

Give it time, this comment will be #1.
/r/MGTOW11/06/17 09:33 AM
31

Bitch, I'll give you a refund on a service I provided if you give me back the time I wasted taking pictures at your shitty ass wedding.
/r/MGTOW11/06/17 09:21 AM
3

If a "real MGTOW" requires being divorce raped, then I'll denounce MGTOW in a heartbeat. I don't give a fuck about being a part of a movement. I thought this whole thing was about going your own way, not going somewhere together with a bunch of men? Join a support group or some shit.
/r/MGTOW11/06/17 09:19 AM
16

This dude said: You can be feminist and still look at men's problems Feminists do not give a fuck about men and their problems. Hell, even in the context of this interview, the film that actually discusses problems of men was fucking banned by feminists. Cassie Jaye was a feminist who realized that and even though she still believes in the issues women face, she disassociates with the term feminist because the majority of feminists, and/or the leaders of the feminist movement, are about blaming …
/r/MGTOW11/06/17 08:59 AM
1

Real or not, this pretty well outlines the incentive that exists to divorce for women. It also outlines the incentive to not get married if you're a man.
/r/MGTOW11/06/17 07:12 AM
6

Can you give specifics? Seems like an emotional post rather than a substantive one. I'm all for your access to contraception, abortions, etc. Knock yourself out. It's usually women who want society (which includes me, and the men on this sub) to pay for it.
/r/MGTOW09/06/17 06:21 PM
43

Let him gain 30 pounds and see how quickly she "falls out of love" or "needs time to find herself" or "wants to explore her sexuality"
/r/MGTOW07/06/17 10:20 PM
2

+1. It's not even like luxury cars do anything much more than the regular ones. They all have air, music options, reliability, a lot have GPS now, etc. Driving a Lexus is what you do when you're either super filthy rich or trying to impress women/friends.
/r/MGTOW07/06/17 02:26 PM
3

This is the "kiss hello" episode of Seinfeld in real life lol.
/r/MGTOW07/06/17 04:10 AM
49

My body my choice. Oh, your body? Also my choice.
/r/MGTOW06/06/17 06:42 PM
111

I am actually all for sexual empowerment. She can do as she pleases with her body. Just don't also expect me to: Respect your ability to "settle down" or have a successful monogamous relationship. Just because I respect a fat person's right to eat whatever they want, doesn't mean I respect their ability to successfully run a marathon. Indulge as you please, but realize that with all indulgences there are effects. Pay for the activities. I don't want to pay for your birth control. I don't want to…
/r/MGTOW05/06/17 09:41 PM
81

Nevermind the correlation between high partner count and success in monogamous relationships. If you don't mind a woman who has so much sexual experience that 1 person could never please her, especially when attraction fades in the relationship, and you can accept that she will cheat on you or proposition you to open the relationship, then by all means. She's your princess. But things will not end well. These are the girls you pump and dump. And if feminism is right in their ideology, that's not…
/r/MGTOW05/06/17 04:48 PM
4

I am an NBA junkie, but this year's playoffs have been basically unwatchable.
/r/MGTOW02/06/17 04:19 PM
171

A lot of women using online dating apps for free meals. You're probably more likely to get laid by your date if you don't pay for the meal. Paying for the date - girl feels like you're trying to get in her pants by "buying" sex from her. Sleeping with you after you paid for the date makes her feel like a prostitute. Not paying for the date - Girl feels like she isn't good enough to merit you paying for her, will either withdraw completely or try harder to gain your approval.
/r/MGTOW01/06/17 06:32 PM
8

When women make more? WOMAN ARE SO AWESOME HAHA! When men make more? PATRIARCHY!
/r/MGTOW25/05/17 02:07 PM
3

When women ask me to buy drinks now, I say I'll buy the next 2 rounds if you buy the 1st. They usually decline. This tells me they were going to split the second I bought them the drink.
/r/MGTOW25/05/17 03:34 AM
14

Even feminist women will try to justify why men should pay on dates. It's truly eye-opening. They want 21st century rights with 19th century privileges.
/r/MGTOW20/05/17 06:37 PM
2

A month or so ago they linked a thread from here that show that violent AntiFa girl getting knocked out, with some kind of comment complaining about violence towards women. I posted something like She attacked him first, was he was not justified in hitting her? and was instantly banned with a bunch of exclamation points. Shrug. My fault I suppose for expecting an honest conversation from a humor sub. Sometimes their quips about MGTOW/Red Pill/Incels are funny, so I check the sub now and then. De…
/r/MGTOW19/05/17 07:22 PM
1

Stopped reading after this: This is despite a number of major hurdles facing female investors like the gender pay gap, life events interrupting their career, and even their own overwhelming perception that men are better investors.
/r/MGTOW18/05/17 06:10 PM
2

I agree. Kind of like employers who give you a set number of days/hours off, rather than designating "sick" days. I used to hate working for a company that had vacation time separate from sick days that were use it or lose it, because I am never sick. I've called in one time in 10 years.
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 11:38 PM
19

Well said. Typical argument on birth control: Me: I think you should have access to birth control, I just don't want to pay for your shit. Them: Studies show that increased birth control makes number of abortions go down. Me: I don't really care about number of abortions, as long as I'm not paying for your abortions. Get all the abortions you want on your dime. Them: If birth control is provided for free, that's less you have to pay in tax for unwanted children. Me: I shouldn't have to pay for y…
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 11:19 PM
73

Tinder should transition into full-on prostitution app. Trashy women looking for money, thirsty men looking for sex.
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 11:11 PM
13

If I want to sleep with her, I just lie. I imagine we have a couple more years left before they consider that rape too. I consented to sex with a millionaire - Sex without consent is rape POINT BLANK!
/r/MGTOW15/05/17 08:48 PM
25

Fuckboy is used to shame men who like to have sex with women but not commit to them. Yet, that's the same thing feminists empower women to do to men in the name of exploring their sexuality. That moment when you realize it has nothing to do with equality.
/r/MGTOW15/05/17 07:57 PM
12

Women can do whatever they want sexually, I don't have a problem. I have no desire to "police" it. However, don't expect for me to not acknowledge it as a problem if my tax dollars are being taken from me in order to subsidize your sexual choices. This is like the birth control thing. I am all for you having access to birth control, just not on my dime.
/r/MGTOW15/05/17 06:34 PM
56

From the article: One would be hard pressed to find a politician – Republican or Democrat – who didn’t espouse the supposed virtues and benefits of marriage, particularly for children. But in this bipartisan embrace of marriage as a social good, we’ve forgotten some important truths about why it has evolved over time. Marriage was originally intended to create separate spheres for men and women in a way that ultimately benefited men. Even today, as marriage has expanded to include same-sex coupl…
/r/MGTOW15/05/17 03:50 PM
59

If I need to make six figures to date you, I think I'm justified in asking how big your tits are, how many dudes you've been with, waist to hip ratio, etc. But I'm sure in that case I'm the one being shallow, probably misogynist.
/r/MGTOW14/05/17 05:55 PM
2

Progressive/feminist women today have tried so hard to distance themselves from being "motherly" in the name of equality and it's worked. Males no longer see them as motherly. Why would I want you to be the mother of my child if you wouldn't make a good mother? Maybe if you didn't berate those who do take motherhood seriously, and actually expressed the desire to be maternal, men would want you to be the mother of their child.
/r/MGTOW14/05/17 05:48 PM
1

I found a comment section on Facebook under New York Post. Most people calling it out for the bullshit it is.
/r/MGTOW14/05/17 05:42 PM
6

I've said this before, but why is women out-earning men not a problem for them? Women out-earn men? Men are lazy and have given up Men out-earn women? Patriarchy!! These cunts move the goalposts shamelessly.
/r/MGTOW14/05/17 05:39 PM
15

That's perfect
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 07:09 PM
25

Absence.
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 10:08 PM
2

98% thumbs up on the video? I am clearly not the demographic they are targeting. Hip hop legends are rolling in their grave over this corny ass shit.
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 09:26 PM
1

This is a valid point, and is brought up often here. My thought is this: A lot of people here are in kind of a transition mode, where MGTOW is not a natural course but a necessary one. This sub serves as reinforcement to be confident in the life we're leaving behind (dating women and marriage). It's easy to be seduced by women because it's in our biology, and without the kind of reinforcement on this sub, it would be easy to fall into the trap, because of your biology and because it's what socie…
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 05:44 PM
22

I'm also in the "liberal turned libertarian-ish" camp. For the most part I think government should leave me the hell alone. I was at a friend's party a couple weeks ago where 4-5 liberals were pretty much shaming anyone who didn't vote for Hillary. I stayed quiet because liberals these days aren't interested in a viewpoint that isn't their own. It gets very preachy really quick. It's easier to just let them assume I voted for their candidate. One guy in particular, had this gem of a quote: Hilla…
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 05:26 PM
4

I agree - I didn't vote this time around because I wasn't thrilled with any of the candidates. My anarchist buddy said it best: "If your vote is not yours to use or not use as you please, then it was never yours to begin with"
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 05:23 PM
60

No surprise. I have seen anti-Trump friends justify completely cutting anyone out of their life who voted for Trump, including family and close friends. I didn't even vote for Trump, but I've been cut out by liberal friends because I didn't vote for Hillary either. It's really kind of pathetic.
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 02:56 PM
2

The article focuses mostly on the split of household chores and arguing about them. Yawn.
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 02:48 PM
7

That's probably about right lol
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 09:32 PM
21

I've given him my point of view, especially in regards to single mothers. He says "well at our age you can't be picky about that" and so you're right. People don't learn until they feel the stove burn.
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 07:36 PM
2

Even if the birth certificate father proves he is not the biological father, the state is not interested in relieving him of financial burden because the state then has to pick up the tab. Concerns of the state: The state The child The woman The man This means that as #4, you need to make sure none of 1 through 3 are going to be financially burdened by you proving the child isn't yours, otherwise the state is going to shrug it's shoulders and say "Man up"
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 06:44 PM
17

"You can be anything when you grow up" culture, even if you're not that thing. I tell girls I want to sleep with that I'm a professional athlete and a millionaire, because that's what I associate as.
/r/MGTOW09/05/17 10:45 PM
3

Yes - without question. Make sure he gets DNA tested to confirm it's his baby at least. Once he signs the birth certificate, the DNA test no longer matters (even if he proves it's not his, if he signs the birth certificate, he is on the hook).
/r/MGTOW09/05/17 07:27 PM
14

"These bitches just ain't right, can't even kiss them in their mouth, too many dicks been in their diet" - Royce 5'9
/r/MGTOW09/05/17 04:07 PM
3

Get really clingy, text her nonstop, tell her you think you might be falling in love with her. She'll be out of your life lickity split.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 06:25 PM
3

I also responded on that article with: "This sounds a lot like anti-abortion rhetoric. People need to be less concerned with what other people are doing in the privacy of their own bedrooms" She removed it. At some point, you realize it isn't about truth, consistency, empathy, understanding, and so forth. It's straight agenda.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 04:36 PM
30

MGTOW, to me, is a reactionary position, created by the current conditions in our society. You can't win, so you don't play. I would agree that if people stop playing the game, this is bad for society, but I'd argue that it's not MGTOW that made us stop playing, it's the conditions that beget MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 06:28 PM
4

Big difference: Feminism seeks to enact changes through government force and laws. Most MGTOW I know are just begging for the government to leave them the hell alone.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 06:22 PM
54

Agree with her on this point: Sex robots offer men the perfect solution to the feminist movement: If you won’t comply, we’ll create women who do. Damn straight.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 01:56 AM
4

I'm sure this author has exclaimed my body my choice a time or two.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 01:46 AM
3

Yes. I don't really care for the MGTOW values necessarily in this poll. I think libertarian principles are MGTOW enough in themselves.
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 06:14 PM
5

Can you parse this out? What are the interests of "men" and "society in general" that men are acting against? Before we can change you view we need to know what the hell it is.
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 06:04 PM
2

Man in comments says he also hates it when women tell him to smile. Downvoted (-4). You idiot. Only women are victims to this patriarchal epidemic.
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 09:11 PM
2

If men have the right to remove themselves from financial responsibility, then the state has to pick up the tab. The state will never go for that. It's the same as child support. Even if the child isn't yours and it can be proven in court, it doesn't matter. If they have you on the hook, they'll keep you on the hook.
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 08:05 PM
58

Good start. Now strip funding for basically everything else and lower taxes to the bare bone. Government is inefficient in it's money management.
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 11:13 PM
2

Agreed - although I think the outrage here is justified at the gall of a person to sue the clear victim in a situation such as this. If the legal system rewards here, we're all fucked worse than we imagined.
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 10:31 PM
5

This comment though. Damn!
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 10:25 PM
55

Woman in SUV hits three kids on bikes, kills one, severely injures one, knocks the other one off but not injured - then this: Now the driver of the SUV, Sharlene Simon, 42, a mother of three, formerly from Innisfil, is suing the dead boy for the emotional trauma she says she has suffered. She’s also suing the two other boys, as well as the dead boy’s parents, and even his brother, who has since died. She’s also suing the County of Simcoe for failing to maintain the road. WTF did I just read. Swe…
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 02:43 PM
32

People need to learn what discrimination is. Discrimination is when you are dismissed due to something that has no relevance to job. If she was applying for an accountant job and they dismissed her because she's fat, then that's discrimination. If it's a position that requires a more petite figure (like a Hooters girl, or further a stripper or something of that nature), then obviously figure is actually relevant to the job, and being dismissed for being fat is not discrimination. This is like sa…
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 02:27 PM
11

I enjoyed this part: When hiring, we seek entertainer-servers who not only fit the costume, but exemplify a personality and skill set that is friendly, courteous and customer oriented. Nice jab there lol.
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 02:22 PM
2

Everyone has to learn for themselves, but this won't end well.
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 12:07 AM
0

Slipping off the condom is kind of retarded, but it's not sexual assault or rape.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 07:25 PM
17

RIP
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 02:03 PM
17

"I lost a lot of money chasin' bitches, but never lost bitches chasin' money" - Royce 5'9
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 05:21 PM
19

This argument can be used to justify anything. Rape, murder, pedophilia,etc. It wasn't me it was my brain! Spoiler - you are your brain.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 08:31 PM
7

I think the dating costs, drinking at bars costs (I'm sure single men do that far more than married men), and eating/cooking for 1 probably make up the difference to the point where if you factored them out, single would far out-save married. There is a solution to all of that. Don't date, don't drink at bars often, and learn to cook for 1. Then, you can actually leave work on time to do things you enjoy instead of "being motivated to stay late" ie dreading going home, while also out-saving the …
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 11:37 PM
3

Sure, everyone has their own interpretations and draws different things from it.
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 01:59 AM
19

As a teenager and early 20s, I used to stress about finding "the one" and having enough money to support a wife and family. Not because I really wanted those things, but because our culture romanticizes them in a way to make them sound desirable. Now that I'm 32 and could support a wife and kids, those things just sound awful. I wouldn't mind a LTR if I found a cool girl, but good luck finding a girl who doesn't ever want to get married, doesn't ever want kids, doesn't ever want to live together…
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 12:13 AM
18

Yeah, dudes need to stop validating these women for tits and ass. Egos go sky high and turn them into the entitled cunts they are.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 06:59 PM
13

Spoiler- she ends up cashing the check while trying to maintain pride in not cashing the check.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 06:57 PM
23

RP is the natural first step out of female validation. It teaches you about common female tendencies. It's useful in that way, and using the methods to prove it to yourself for awhile is enlightening. MGTOW is where you land when female validation becomes unimportant. Blue pill - want female validation but can't get it Red pill - want female validation and learn how to gain it MGTOW - female validation is hollow and I don't care much for it anymore.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 06:46 PM
5

You know you're talking to a salesman when someone is trying to convince you that something that they want to happen benefits you more than them. Sounds a lot like: "I'm doing you a favor, I'm losing money on this deal!" If I'm not happy with marriage, and it benefits you even less than me, then all the more reason for both of us to not get married right?
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 05:25 PM
5

I love posts like this that offer no argument against what is being said here. Spoiler - Because they don't have any.
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 05:14 PM
19

I learned early on that women don't owe me shit. I just wish they'd now learn that I don't owe them shit either. Women preaching about entitlement is just a cringe level of hypocrisy.
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 04:58 PM
53

Women are just kind of delusional about the "advantages" and "disadvantages" of being male/female. They think every advantage a man has is handed to him by patriarchy, and every advantage a woman has is earned. This conclusion comes from the belief that woman are inherently better than men. It's why when women outperform men in a field, all is right in the world. But when men outperform women, it's because men are holding women back. They think women are better.
/r/MGTOW14/04/17 02:36 PM
3

Assumed the reply was OP - my bad. Yes, kill yourself if you don't want to save the whole fucking world. Brilliant.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 09:34 PM
0

I'm good - I think I'd rather live, and live according to my preferences, not yours. Thanks for your input, though. Good to know there are those out there trying to save what cannot be saved.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 08:45 PM
6

That depends. If a huge fucking asteroid 25x the size of Earth is heading directly towards Earth, you'd be a pretty big dumb-ass to "help prevent it" from happening. You accept your fate and make the most of it. You appreciate the things you can control, enjoy your time left and don't take for granted what you have.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 08:28 PM
18

You will miss her, because "love" is an addiction. You are experiencing withdrawals because you are literally addicted to her. Give it time, don't relapse, because you will just find yourself deeper in the hole than before. Push through the withdrawals and you'll be way better off.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 07:11 PM
9

It's pathetically irresponsible financially to spend a year's worth of earnings - 2,000+ hours of your time presumably, on a piece of fucking jewelry. Whether it's for a woman or not. The fact that they make jewelry that costs as much as a middle class person's entire yearly salary just shows you how out of whack this industry is.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 06:24 PM
49

From the article: “In my personal experience (I attracted my husband while rotational dating),” Sami said, "and in the experience of my clients, a man who really wants you will move mountains to be with you, and will not be deterred by the fact that he's got some competition. “In fact, this slight competition might actually fire his desire to step up and claim you even more aggressively.” This is why men must withdraw.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 04:16 PM
2

Yes, a hairless ape completely aware of it's hairless ape desires.
/r/MGTOW11/04/17 01:36 PM
6

Yes I've noticed that too. Even the older ones in my office who are bigger used to be nice or whatever, but after becoming fit they suddenly became obsessed with getting me "married off" - where was this before? The entire paradigm reeks.
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 07:15 PM
17

For me, it was about my skepticism in monogamy. That's been the case for me since high school, even though I've had relationships. Now I outright reject it, it's not natural. 2nd layer is that I used to be fat. The difference in my treatment from females now vs then is drastic. So even now, if I'm talking with a girl who is interested and we are "connecting" I have to remind myself that this woman would have zero interest in the fat me. Her interest is purely physical and shallow. To be fair, I'…
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 05:33 PM
20

The women who complain about men dating a woman 10 years younger are the same women who would date a man 10 years older. So yes, it's about them being replaced by hotter bodies more than any kind of moral disgust with the age difference.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 03:53 PM
2

I wish we knew the whole story, but I definitely agree with the welfare piece. If other people are forced to pay for your kids through taxation, then you shouldn't be having kids. I am pro abortion rights and pro birth control as long as you pay for it yourself, and I am anti-welfare programs that make your irresponsible financial decisions my burden financially. That is grossly immoral.
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 11:47 PM
5

As it relates to MGTOW - Millennials are a generation raised by single mothers. It follows that they are far more accommodating towards women, which isn't bad except it's to a fault. Millennials give women the benefit of the doubt whether or not they deserve it. Millennials are generally less masculine due to growing up without fathers. Millennials buy the idea that men are oppressing women because that's the perspective they've heard from their primary parent their entire life. Millennials are …
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 11:19 PM
3

Probably going to build an aquarium this weekend. Researching glass prices at the moment.
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 02:17 PM
7

One of the problems with cohabitation is that one person always has a lower tolerance for mess than the other. I live alone, but if I did live with someone else who wanted it cleaner than it is now, they can be the one to clean it. I will keep my house as clean as I want it. That's everything. I'll clean everything to be as clean as I want it. If you want it cleaner than that more often than that? Go for it, but that's your journey, not mine. I imagine men have a higher tolerance for a messy hou…
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 09:14 PM
19

"Markers of adulthood" is such pretentious terminology.
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 01:14 PM
24

I immediately had this thought as well. If a man can't satisfy a woman's sex drive, well what's the poor sweetheart to do but fuck some other dudes on the side? If woman can't satisfy man's sex drive, too fucking bad she's not a sex machine!
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 01:04 PM
1

Nice additions. It's definitely a nuanced topic.
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 12:13 AM
3

I agree. I'm not defending the cuck thing, just trying to understand it.
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 11:45 PM
13

I think maybe the whole cuckolding thing stems from gaining some kind of power from a situation where your wife is going to cheat regardless. If you're wife is going to cheat on you regardless (women who suggest open relationships or introducing a 3rd party are probably already cheating), then some men would see it as powerful to give their wives permission to cheat rather than having it go on behind their back. Still, any self respecting man wouldn't tolerate that. It's laughable that men in th…
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 08:23 PM
5

Feminism can thank itself for this inequality. To expand on that - feminists have influenced the legal system in such a way that men, and more specifically men of power, have to be very cautious when alone with women, and keep the occurrences infrequent. Rape and sexual harassment cases are less and less frequently presuming innocence until guilt is proven. Thank feminism for that. The consequence is this - If you're a man of power hiring for a subordinate position, you are weighing pros and con…
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 05:55 PM
10

Just thinking out loud here, but let's go back to the dynamic in the sexual marketplace where men are hunters and women are taught to be the "prize" or the prey. This dynamic is still in play today - men are expected initiate, pay for dates, and generally "woo" the woman. Women are supposed to be the reward who aren't expected to contribute until way later on. In this paradigm, a woman's desire is to be "hunted" by a man, because it will lead to the fulfillment of their desire to produce childre…
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 05:33 PM
10

There are so many issues I have with this: If the male doctor had consulted her to seek therapy first before making the decision? SEXISM! THIS IS WHY WE NEED FEMINISM! MAN THINKS HE KNOWS MY BODY MORE THAN I DO! MANSPLAINING! You wanted the doctor to redirect you to a therapist, but you couldn't afford a lawyer so who is going to pay for the therapist? I'm guessing you'd have expected that to be free? I think we should take this concept further. To avoid some fat hag trying to sue McDonalds for …
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 03:31 PM
20

How Gemini of you to post this.
/r/MGTOW03/04/17 01:58 PM
3

Because getting a girl pregnant requires time and resources that I would rather allocate somewhere else?
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 11:24 PM
3

Is this your argument? I could go to a sperm bank and accomplish that in 1 day, but good for you.
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 11:17 PM
1

Check the other chain.
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 11:10 PM
1

I won't condemn you for your desire to continue your lineage. It's your life to do with it as you please. I don't think it's too much to ask the same consideration from you.
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 11:08 PM
1

That works out for everyone then, because I'm not confident that you could put together an argument against it anyways.
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 10:55 PM
2

I am most comfortable pursuing my own goals, practicing my own hobbies and crafts, securing my own financial future, and ensuring that I am as healthy as possible for as long as possible. I only want to be accountable for me. This is my path to happiness. Kids, wives, long term relationships and even most short term flings don't intrigue me. I have great personal relationships and I love my friends, but not romantically. Now please, make an argument for why I'm living wrong because I'm bypassing…
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 10:53 PM
4

To be fair, your original post was this: go outside ahhaaa get some pussy come on boys Not sure you've proven any reason to take you seriously, intellectually.
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 10:38 PM
2

validates itself on rejecting one of the cornerstones of being human Care to hash this out? What is the cornerstone of being human?
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 10:31 PM
5

You're not wrong, there a shitload of males in the world who chase pussy as a primary means of validation. You being one of them apparently. You've just happened to stumble upon a sub that rejects that paradigm. Stay and learn about it, or go chase the pussy you validate your existence with. We won't be offended either way.
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 10:08 PM
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It's also funny how "slut shaming" is such an integral part of the feminist message, but they have no problem shaming someone who (they assume) hasn't had a lot of sex. They pretty much sink their whole message when they do that. I almost want to say it's a subconscious concession that they have more respect for "Chad" than someone who can't get laid. They are showcasing the exact signs outlined by RP when they shame men who can't get laid. I don't even fuck with RP and they're wrong about a lot…
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 09:28 PM
18

This is fucking fascinating.
/r/MGTOW01/04/17 09:21 PM
9

I agree with that, it's why I like the sub, but it does become saturated at times with "look what this 1 girl on Instagram did" - I like the data and law/legal based posts a lot more.
/r/MGTOW01/04/17 08:13 PM
5

I always say a down vote without replying is simply emotional. I have never down voted a single post. Meanwhile, I'll go read some feminist forum, post something reasoned out in a way that they can possibly agree with, and get 50 down votes with very few replies if any. Down votes are driven by feelings and not serious thought and consideration.
/r/MGTOW01/04/17 08:07 PM
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It's actually an entire sub dedicated to mocking red pill/MGTOW/MRA. Most feminists over there, presumably female. It's funny because they mock MGTOW all the time for people on this sub constantly talking about women while claiming to go their own way (which is a fair observation), but they have a whole sub dedicated to talking about the people on these subs. The hypocrisy/irony is thick.
/r/MGTOW01/04/17 08:01 PM
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The average man and average woman getting laid are not equally difficult tasks. Women have it easier. We've seen the countless experiments validating this fact. Another factor is how these encounters happen. Men approach and initiate the vast majority of the time. This creates a "hunter/hunted" dichotomy where a man is looked at favorably for being a good hunter and women not so favorably if they are easily hunted. It may not always be that way, but that's the "sexual marketplace" in the times w…
/r/MGTOW01/04/17 05:32 PM
1

They want 21st century rights with 19th century privileges.
/r/MGTOW01/04/17 01:22 AM
37

I can't get over the irony (and hypocrisy) of this quote: Venderla, 22, passed the course last year. "Women think outside the box," she says. "Men just do what they are supposed to do. Maybe we are more capable of seeing another solution, a better solution." Right before this one: Venderla says she has not experienced sexism in the special forces, but has in another battalion. How sexist would a "Maybe men are just better" statement be considered in 2017? But maybe women are just better? No prob…
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 07:49 PM
11

Kind of predictable. The entire article talks about the external circumstances that led to these women ending up in prison. It's an escape from accountability. The actions she did that put her in prison? It just wasn't her.
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 02:31 PM
10

Not to speak for MGTOW as a whole, but I think inherent in MGTOW by virtue of being right in the name is the fact that MGTOW aren't concerned with their "wife's libido" or "finding the next hot skinny bitch to fuck" - these are things born out of a desire for female validation. Granted, it's hard to live without seeking female validation, but it seems to me that attempting to do that is something pretty embedded in the MGTOW movement. Most people frequenting these forums are probably new to thes…
/r/MGTOW30/03/17 08:00 PM
3

She didn't say it, it was in a newspaper article. Probably some feminist publication. Haven't checked the context to be honest. But it's the same level of making something an issue about woman when it clearly affects men far more.
/r/MGTOW29/03/17 11:56 PM
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I fully support a woman's right to do this as long as they fully my right to be disgusted by it. Men normalizing this by "appreciating" it is going to set a bad precedent though. I can't for a bunch of fat hairy women claiming men are sexist for not finding them attractive. Patriarchy and all that.
/r/MGTOW29/03/17 11:50 PM
15

That's as bad as the "1 in 4 homeless people are women"
/r/MGTOW29/03/17 11:39 PM
3

When a woman expects you to give her your seat... "I'm a feminist and believe too much in equality to give you my seat"
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 07:57 PM
1

So how long before pets become "dependents" that they'll tax you for to give them money?
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 05:44 PM
7

TLDR #2 - I hooked up with a guy, expected him to do eveything while I lay there, and he's sexist for finishing quickly. That story a dozen times.
/r/MGTOW11/03/17 08:46 PM
15

This has to be fake.
/r/MGTOW11/03/17 08:27 PM
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I think his name is Trump.
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 10:03 PM
1

I am looking for a man to take charge and be a man. Can I respond with - "Great, I am looking for a woman to submit and be a woman" They imply with their own statements the very things they condemn when men say it. If taking charge is a man thing, then by definition submission is a woman thing. BUT PATRIARCHY!!!
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 08:48 PM
11

I hate everyone in this story.
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 07:37 PM
12

When you unwrap the reasons for marriage, it is an institution created for children. They wanted to give incentive for mothers and fathers to stay together, so the child would have both mother and father together in the home. So to unpack the modern man's position - it seems like feminism has empowered women to do anything they want except be a mother. Don't be a little housewife slave to a man because that's the patriarchy! Feminism has succeeded. More women are in the workplace, career-driven,…
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 04:56 PM
15

"I'm a career woman, I don't need no man to take care of me" ... "I just think the man should pay for the date"
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 03:47 PM
9

When women outperform, it's because of performance. When men outperform, it's because of patriarchy.
/r/MGTOW09/03/17 01:24 AM
12

There really needs to be a better understanding of economics. They list that they are entitled to "free" health care and "free" child care. Do you think doctors work for free? Do you think the effort of caring for a child is free? These are services that require a person to provide their time and resources. When you advocate for free services, you're are either advocating for A)slavery - doctors/caregivers should be forced to provide their time and service to you for no compensation or B)theft -…
/r/MGTOW08/03/17 06:46 PM
2

Sadly, I would bet the farm that she is also an advocate of universal healthcare. The Venn diagram of people who A) advocate for fat acceptance and B) push for universal healthcare is basically an overlapping circle. Scary shit, because the health costs in our future are going to be astronomical, and if the left gets their way, it will be fully covered by our tax dollars. That money is going to come out of your pockets.
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 10:28 PM
12

When people with this degree and this background go out into the world, they have a really great tool set to be be able to understand and recognize different problems and obstacles affecting different people in our society. Employer - "So what do you know about balance sheets and financial statements?" Gender Studies major Job Applicant - "Umm not a lot, but did you know that the decal on your desk is actually sexist?"
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 07:37 PM
19

"Couples" are having less sex, it says. Not surprised.
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 05:36 PM
5

As long as you can admit to the validation you're seeking by doing so.
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 04:48 PM
5

Then do your thing. You are not every male. Some males would rather spend a few minutes beating their meat to get rid of the urge, then get back to work on something else.
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 04:44 PM
10

So, are you improving yourself every day? I think the goal here should be to improve oneself and become better at obtaining sex, all while having zero intention of marriage or becoming a provider for one of these women. Who's with me on this? "Better at obtaining sex" is still craving female validation. You want to be irresistible to females. Your intention to pump and dump them doesn't change that. Yes, clean up your diet, work out (whether lifting or not), stay close to good reading materials,…
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 04:35 PM
16

Agreed. What's next - the military is fat shaming because they won't let your lard ass in? Handicap shaming? It keeps getting as crazy as we expect it to.
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 03:58 PM
3

Everyone has opinions. Not a real strong intellectual contingent over there, although I've meandered there from time to time and they can be funny.
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 03:47 PM
12

It takes far more creative power and writing talent to write about things you don't believe or agree with. Plus it shows that you understand their position, which makes your position even more powerful. Any time I see a friend on Facebook or wherever taking a position that appears to me to be more conditioned and rhetoric than true understanding of the position, I will play devil's advocate even if I agree with them. This actually helps me understand the position I disagree with as well as sharp…
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 03:38 PM
24

It's bad because it's a 60+ year contract. Maybe the first 5 years of the contract are good, but you don't want to be signing your life over legally for that extended of a period, and there is a clear early termination fee that favors women. This is why they want the contract and men are the hesitant ones. I'm irritated if my phone contract is more than 1 year. Marriage is too much. I might date a girl for awhile, hell, maybe for a long time, but you can't ever surrender your freedom to try some…
/r/MGTOW06/03/17 08:30 PM
15

To be fair - I can't find a single person defending this idea. I've combed through comments on various articles. Now about to comb through Reddit. I'm sure I'll find someone, but at least this idea seems as crazy to everyone else as it does to me.
/r/MGTOW06/03/17 06:42 PM
22

I associate with being Chinese. Did you just assume my color?
/r/MGTOW06/03/17 06:26 PM
20

70% of women initiate divorce. 80-85% of women get custody. Hard to raise your kid when you're pushed out of the picture by the woman, and it's enforced by the state.
/r/MGTOW06/03/17 06:23 PM
20

Sadly, the single mothers of the future will grossly influence their boys into being "manginas" as they say around these parts. We're seeing it already. This soft anti-masculine culture is a bunch of boys raised by single mothers. These boys love their mothers deeply as they should, but project the love their mothers have for them onto other women. They foolishly think that since their mothers loved them deeply, that all women are capable of that kind of love for anyone. Men love women, women lo…
/r/MGTOW06/03/17 04:41 PM
5

He didn't even poke a hole. It broke, so he took it off since it's useless anyways. Rape.
/r/MGTOW06/03/17 02:10 PM
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Oh, and it should go without saying, that every day is "day without a woman" day in the MGTOW universe. Cheers.
/r/MGTOW04/03/17 07:38 PM
20

Timeline: PATRIARCHY IS HOLDING BACK FEMALES -society gives females every advantage possible in every field- LOOK AT ALL THIS DATA SHOWING FEMALES ARE BETTER THAN MEN IN ALL THESE FIELDS Gross
/r/MGTOW03/03/17 10:37 PM
2

How far did you guys make it
/r/MGTOW03/03/17 03:48 PM
3

In any case, yesterday she called and the reality of life without my economic input was starting to get to her. She screeched that she was going to sue to have the whole thing reversed, and she was going to take the house and the kids and my entire retirement. God that's so pathetic. It's good to read stories like this on here. Lots of negative stuff on this sub most of the time.
/r/MGTOW02/03/17 08:41 PM
1

The criticism of Pascal's wager is that it's a false dilemma, presenting two options as the only options. There is a whole spectrum of possibilities not represented (not believing in the right religion/god, maybe god doesn't reward belief in him, etc). Another criticism is the idea that believing and following a god that doesn't exist is without consequence. A life wasted worshiping a god that isn't real is consequence in my view. So to apply that criticism with your interpretation - believing i…
/r/MGTOW02/03/17 05:14 PM
5

Scary, because these are the type of trends that lead to legislation to even out this gross inequality. I can see it now: "Student Loan Gender Fairness Act" - Women are burdened with more debt on average than men due to academic prejudice. This act will enact a tax to alleviate some of this unfair burden from female graduates who are forced to unfairly carry large debts simply because they are women.
/r/MGTOW01/03/17 01:36 AM
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I'm all for raising issue with the harassment, as long as it's documented and can be proven. That really has no place in a professional environment. I'm absolutely against the idea of her getting any kind of recompense for "not getting promoted" or "making less than males doing the same work" because this is such a horrible precedent. It's completely the employers decision who to hire and who to promote, and if you sign the "contract" for your pay, what are you complaining about? I'm sure there …
/r/MGTOW28/02/17 05:06 PM
47

These stories should be read to every 16-21 year old girl before she hops on the cock carousel because feminism told her it's perfectly fine to "explore your sexuality" when you're young. Here is the deal - there are many things you have complete freedom to do. Hooking up with a bunch of guys when you're young is definitely one of them. However, you are not free of consequences. And the consequences of hooking up with a bunch of guys is by the time you're 30, the chads will want someone better l…
/r/MGTOW28/02/17 03:55 PM
17

Oh, and where are the discounts for men in the nursing and teaching fields? Yeah, thought so.
/r/MGTOW28/02/17 03:33 PM
17

What happens when the ratio moves to women 60% to men 40%. Will men by getting those same discounts? We know the answer to that. This kind of stuff bothers me most because it's so transparent. They'll say they're not punishing men, but it's just semantics. It's like saying: "We're not making men pay double, we're making women pay half!"
/r/MGTOW28/02/17 03:32 PM
1

I'm skeptical of the rape victims who don't report statistic because again, rape is constantly being re-defined. It's possible that these rape victims didn't report their rape because they weren't raped, but our broadening of the term tries to create more victims than really are. Again, rape is very difficult to make conclusive judgments about, because there is an extreme spectrum of possibilities in every single case. I agree people should dictate their own life and choices, but again, don't fo…
/r/MGTOW22/02/17 10:58 PM
1

You can't ensure equality with or without the government. You have to encourage it and be persuasive, because force in itself is a form of inequality. You're just trading one for the other. It takes a ground up approach, not a top down approach. Yes, my leanings are libertarian. Rape is unfortunate not just because of the obvious reasons, but because it almost always boils down to he-said-she-said and is very difficult to prove either way. This means men can get away with rape in many cases, but…
/r/MGTOW22/02/17 10:20 PM
2

Like MGTOW, feminism doesn't share a doctrine, so you'd have to clarify your own interpretation of it. I'm kind of using the overall perception of some of their issues, which you may or may not adopt. I support equal pay for equal work conceptually, but not legally. For example, I might do the same job as another male and not get paid as much for it, but it doesn't mean I'm being discriminated against for gender. There are a lot of factors involved in determining compensation, mostly being timin…
/r/MGTOW22/02/17 09:01 PM
2

As someone who has a few feminist friends, I can say one of the primary differences, if not the primary difference, between MGTOW and feminism is collectivism vs. individualism. Keep in mind, I speak for myself and only my own interpretation of MGTOW. MGTOW aren't interested in your hand-outs, government approved love licenses (marriage), welfare, alimony, child support, regulations on businesses, etc. I am not concerned at all with working through society or government to get my way. Honestly, …
/r/MGTOW22/02/17 08:43 PM
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I will research. Thanks.
/r/MGTOW22/02/17 07:07 PM
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That happens to me also from time to time. I usually say jokingly "I believe too much in equality to help you lift those tables/boxes/whatever" but I do help them anyways. At the end of the day, men are physically stronger than women. Men, on average, are more capable of lifting things. Some women often won't admit this, but know it. The thing that irritates me most about it is that sometimes the women who ask for your help will then turn it around and act like they did you a favor, because they…
/r/MGTOW22/02/17 05:12 PM
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Those comments are flat out depressing. So many guys who are flat out angry and torn up about their girlfriends/wives being whores, and justifying why it's his problem and not hers. Why can I not get over her sexual history? Something must be wrong with me! No, trust your instincts. There are serious implications: You're not the best she ever had, maybe not even close, but she is still with you. You might count this as a win, but this just means she isn't with you for your masculine qualities, b…
/r/MGTOW22/02/17 08:27 AM
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I am definitely a hip-hop guy, basically from 1990 forward, but I totally didn't know JCole jacked/covered Project Pat on No Role models. Good shit.
/r/MGTOW22/02/17 07:44 AM
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This is very specific to leadership and still doesn't concern behavior as much as it does perception of the behavior. For example, you say leaders prior to the crisis may not be good leaders after the crisis. This does not indicate a change in behavior, but a change in definitions and expectations about the behavior. To circle it back around, if the culture defines slut differently in 10 years than 10 years ago, it doesn't make the behavior different. It doesn't mean a slut is no longer a slut b…
/r/MGTOW22/02/17 02:13 AM
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I'm sure some circles are more pure than others, so you may just have a virtuous circle. Plus, you have to understand that MGTOW attracts men who have been burned or someone close to them was burned, and men who have been burned are now on lookout for what they were burned by. It's like when you get a new car, and suddenly that car pops up everywhere to you. Surely it was everywhere before, you just started noticing it. Another angle to consider is how stealthy people are at hiding their infidel…
/r/MGTOW21/02/17 11:59 PM
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15% BF and trying to get to 12% (I always think in terms of BF% since I have a hydrostatic testing spot close by), but it's the people who never get fat in the first place who should be patted on the back. It's funny, because the same women who tell you you're not fat when you are, are quick to give you all kinds of sexual attention when you're not fat anymore. Like everyone always says, listen to their actions, not their words.
/r/MGTOW21/02/17 08:52 PM
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The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
/r/MGTOW21/02/17 05:09 PM
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Even when I was fat, I felt ashamed of it every single day, and I absolutely hated when people (mainly women) told me I wasn't fat. I was 32% BF at my highest, but I am 6'7 so people would sugar coat it with "You're just tall" Honestly, I wish that every single day I was fat, I had someone in my ear, constantly, before every meal or mindless snack, shaming the fuck out of me for it. Even when I was fat I wished that. To be fat, and to be at peace with it, is simply retarded.
/r/MGTOW21/02/17 03:37 PM
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The ugly and fat ones hang out with pretty ones, and think they're entitled to the same caliber dude their friends can pull (cheerleader effect?). You're the fat friend for a reason. PUAs see you as an obstacle to the real prize, but never the prize.
/r/MGTOW21/02/17 03:31 PM
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Girl reaction - Don't settle for less, you deserve Kate Upton or equal! Guy reaction - Your awkward ass can't pull a Kate Upton. GTFO here.
/r/MGTOW21/02/17 03:29 PM
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I was out at the bar/restaurant less than a mile from my house on Saturday night, by myself, and I was watching something on TV for an hour or so while eating a sandwich. Meanwhile, at the table next to me, there was this guy who was pretty well put together. You can tell he put time into his wardrobe, in pretty good shape, good hygiene, etc. It looked like a first date/meet-up, and this girl walks in probably 75 pounds overweight but dolled up. Definitely not real pretty without makeup, and eve…
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 07:35 PM
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Some good messages here, mainly don't be consumed with consuming. There is a bit of a false dichotomy though between being a consumer and being a creator/participant. For example, all the great athletes of all-time are first huge consumers of their particular sport. It's actually shaped the way they play/perform. Same with music. In some music, you can literally hear the influence and know that the artist probably spent a lot of time listening/admiring, or consuming, that influence. You hear the…
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 03:43 PM
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More money, more sex, more happiness. Just sign here.
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 10:46 PM
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If they don't respond, I assume their downvote is emotional.
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 09:05 AM
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Men write the books you read, Direct/produce/write the films and shows you watch, and run the universities where you get your liberal arts degree from. Men create. Women consume.
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 06:36 PM
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Kitchen remodel
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 01:49 AM
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"But under no circumstances should men have any legal rights over women’s pregnancies." But under no circumstances should women have any legal rights over men's income.
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 07:51 PM
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Virgins don't exist. Got it.
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 06:20 PM
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Pretty typical rhetoric, but it's strange how capitalism always gets roped in with all of the gross discrimination (racism, misogyny, violence, oppression, etc). WTF does a free market exchange of goods have to do with all of this shit?
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 04:48 PM
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Sad. She is going to wreck that kid.
/r/MGTOW16/02/17 09:37 PM
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Can I get my hobbies subsidized?
/r/MGTOW16/02/17 06:14 PM
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You're either a man or woman, biologically. You can't change that, even if you mutilate your body. What you "feel" like you are is a classic "feels over reals" case. If you're a man who wants to dress like a woman, or vice versa, by all means do so. Nothing has changed biologically. You're just a man who enjoys dressing like a woman normally dresses. For a group as intent on breaking down gender expectations, it's weird that they can't see that assigning gender based on the very gender expectati…
/r/MGTOW16/02/17 05:27 PM
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It's possible. I don't know as I've never been in one, but I usually associate CPC with Christian groups trying to help pregnant women through adoption or by being a support group. They don't want you to get an abortion. Whether they lie or exaggerate about it, I don't know. It's possible they really believe what they say (abortion gives you breast cancer, etc), so maybe they're just misinformed themselves.
/r/MGTOW15/02/17 08:15 PM
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I agree with: The right for anti-abortion people/groups to form their own centers to try to dissuade possible abortions on the grounds of immorality. I disagree with: Lying to patients about effects of abortion to scare them State funded pregnancy centers of any type (abortion providing or not) If you want to dissuade people from getting an abortion on your dime, be my guest. I wish you luck in winning your moral argument.
/r/MGTOW15/02/17 07:47 PM
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+1 There was a point in my life where I absolutely thought I was going to get married, have kids, and ride off into the sunset with someone I loved and someone who loved me. This was my indoctrination. It took years to realize that life doesn't exist, but I'm not so far removed from that upbringing that I'm arrogant enough to think those roots don't still exist. Sometimes you just have to count your wins, and you do that in comparison to where you might be without these revelations. Truthfully, …
/r/MGTOW15/02/17 06:40 PM
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His fault. Stop paying for dates. If you offer, be prepared to never see that money again. More importantly, what do you hope to accomplish by paying? Do you think she'll suddenly want to sleep with you?
/r/MGTOW14/02/17 06:38 PM
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Why are they so intent on men getting married? So there is a group of men who don't want to get married because reasons. Whatever reasons. Who cares, what's it to you?
/r/MGTOW14/02/17 07:16 AM
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Further evidence that monogamous relationships are just a transaction to them. No love involved.
/r/MGTOW12/02/17 05:44 PM
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I'm guessing they'd want the same pay in 35 hours that men get in 40, because #equality and #mahpaygap
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 08:22 PM
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I feel like correlation applies to both the money and health. This study should really separate single men into two categories- men who want to get married but no woman wants them because they're fat and broke, and single men who have options but choose against marriage. I imagine the 2nd group compares pretty favorably.
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 01:52 AM
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These points are really desperate and transparent. More money, more sex, longer life! "First, the marriage premium for men includes higher earnings and more job stability. How much higher earnings, you ask? $16,000, according to Wolfinger and Wilcox." Cart before horse. Married men make more because women don't marry broke dudes. "Second, you get more sex. You get more sex, even, than men who are just co-habiting with a partner. 51 percent versus 39 percent. Compelling." Not all sex is created e…
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 11:20 PM
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Let's go our own way together.
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 11:39 PM
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The collective health of Americans is something that is completely overlooked in the fight for universal healthcare. Universal healthcare only "works" if the majority of people are healthy.
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 10:24 PM
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I'm always skeptical about studies involving self-reported sex counts, even in large numbers (33,000).
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 09:21 PM
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Married men make $16,000 more on average because women don't marry broke dudes. It's curious to me that they throw that out there without any attempt to explain why it is the case.
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 07:59 PM
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I would associate MGTOW with a more libertarian position. Conservatives usually hold positions that are anti-gay, anti-abortion and favor huge military spending. I personally don't agree with either high military spending, border control or high welfare, "free" college, "free" health care or anything like that. It's all smoke and mirrors. If I want a service, I'll buy it myself, which is a true "going your own way" position. I'll protect myself and provide for myself. You do the same. I don't tr…
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 06:53 PM
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If you're referring to a long-term result of every male on the planet going full MGTOW without any slip-up (for the sake of argument), it's extinction of course. Of course, before that point, I think laws would change to favor men a bit more and incentivize marriage and/or procreation. If women were to become far less promiscuous, and laws weren't tilted in women's favor, a lot of men would jump off MGTOW. So taking an uncompromising approach, the end-game to MGTOW is extinction. Men stop fuckin…
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 01:56 AM
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As soon as Chad comes around and smashes 1st night without spending a penny, hopefully the kid will learn. Right now, culture says if you court women correctly you'll gain their affection. He doesn't know any better yet. Fool me once...
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 10:46 PM
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World wide dick buffet haha. That's great.
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 05:01 PM
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They want 21st century rights with 19th century privileges.
/r/MGTOW06/02/17 10:55 PM
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I always assumed they stopped at 10. Whether a girl has been with 50 or 150, they'll tell you 10 if you ask. 10 is considered acceptably high.
/r/MGTOW06/02/17 10:53 PM
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Branch swinging fail. You're supposed to have one lined up.
/r/MGTOW06/02/17 02:47 PM
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Taking offense was probably a bad move, but understandable. To not engage at all is probably the best route, or ask out of curiosity what artists/genres she considers masculine. Of course - the "this doesn't look like a kitchen" type response would be tempting too.
/r/MGTOW05/02/17 09:58 PM
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Men can marry men. The bachelor tax would just make me marry a straight friend, assuming the tax was significant enough.
/r/MGTOW05/02/17 06:42 AM
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Someone should really post a male perspective version of this, except "Don't Wait" as the premise. Don't wait for the girl who... And go.
/r/MGTOW03/02/17 08:03 PM
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I hate the "ambition" cop-out. No, if he is incredibly ambitious for the rest of his life and fails in all of his business ventures, you're not fucking with him. It's about money.
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 02:39 AM
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I listen to some real pussy shit sometimes, just leftover songs from the 90s and the like that is stuck with me for life probably. Otherwise I like hip hop, of the boom bap variety. MF Doom, Run the Jewels, Blu & Exile, and so forth. Nothing like some good beats and thought provoking lyrics/rhymes.
/r/MGTOW27/01/17 02:20 AM
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Whether a woman lies about birth control, or a man lies about a vasectomy, or in this case removes the condom, it's certainly fucked up. But not rape.
/r/MGTOW14/01/17 06:31 AM
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