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iphonepencil/r/askTRP14/11/20 03:35 AM
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iphonepencil/r/askTRP01/10/18 11:16 PM
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iphonepencil/r/askTRP01/01/18 05:53 PM
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iphonepencil/r/askTRP18/07/19 06:19 AM
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iphonepencil/r/askTRP22/10/19 03:20 PM
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iphonepencil/r/askTRP29/10/18 01:59 AM
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iphonepencil/r/askTRP29/10/18 01:58 AM
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She wants to be exclusive with me and our mutual friend was saying she probably did it to make me jealous but I don't play those fucking games. She basically said she wants to be exclusive so I dropped her.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 08:32 PM
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Probably because it is a human being?
/r/askTRP14/11/20 07:43 PM
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Agreed, in retrospect I should have completely avoided the situation. I could not have predicted all of this bullshit to happen but better safe than sorry.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 07:38 PM
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100% agree with you and I have said that a plate/FWB is not mine whatsoever. I can fuck whoever I want and she can do the same. What I do outside of our interaction is none of her business and vice versa. Also, no a FWB is not only used for sex. Read the sidebar fam. ​ The difference is I expect her to conduct herself in a respectable manner if I am taking her out. I am not some spineless fuck that will put up with blatant disrespect. Maybe you are? ​ Also, I am going at you because you are basi…
/r/askTRP14/11/20 07:33 PM
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Agreed
/r/askTRP14/11/20 07:21 PM
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I took her back to the hotel so she would stop drinking and would try to sober up. I took further action and went home when this douchebag made a move on her.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 07:16 PM
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That is what I did when he made that creepy ass move on her
/r/askTRP14/11/20 07:15 PM
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Because he is an alcoholic douchebag fuckboi
/r/askTRP14/11/20 07:14 PM
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We had about six shots in around an hour. The crazy part about this is that my FWB tells me after the fact that she is actually allergic to alcohol and something about her enzymes cannot break down alcohol or some shit like that.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 07:13 PM
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She was my date for the night and she acted out of line. You cannot blame alcohol on her behavior. Story does check out fam, we take her back to the hotel with the intention to have her sober up. Doesn't mean she is going to rainbows and sunshine when we get back in an hour. Have you ever been drunk or are you just fucking stupid? He made a random ass move on her in front of me and I immediately push him away and take her home you dumb fuck. What do you not get about that?
/r/askTRP14/11/20 07:09 PM
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I understand your points but why are you trying to justify her behavior that would have ultimately lead up to her getting raped if I was not there?
/r/askTRP14/11/20 05:33 PM
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So, I assume you take the spineless man without any boundaries or expectations approach?
/r/askTRP14/11/20 05:27 PM
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Who gives a fuck if I am banging/dating multiple women? What does that have to do with anything? I brought her out as my date for the night and she should conduct herself as such. I could have easily started pulling and flirting with other girls right in front of her but I didn't. It is just a matter of principle and basic social courtesy. Why is that so hard to understand?
/r/askTRP14/11/20 05:11 PM
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All of your points are definitely noted for any future endeavors. We were all pretty drunk from the get-go. Took about 5 shots in 20 minutes before heading out. Pretty much when we got to the first bar she could barely walk and then got sick throwing up shortly after that. I am not gonna make a move on a sick girl throwing up just to establish dominance/boundaries. The right move was to get her back to the hotel to sober up.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 04:58 PM
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I definitely told him that was out of the question. He is just a fuckboi drunk douchebag who cannot handle his alcohol.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 04:57 PM
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Probably should have had better foresight but that was the first move he made all night on her and I reacted properly
/r/askTRP14/11/20 04:56 PM
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I am bringing her as my date out with another person. She should conduct herself as such.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 04:55 PM
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In retrospect, I should have avoided the situation to begin with
/r/askTRP14/11/20 04:54 PM
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Yeah, you are fucking autistic. He made a move trying to kiss her out of nowhere and I immediately pushed his head away and we left. Get the fuck out of here throwing that bullshit around.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 04:53 PM
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Already dropped them both
/r/askTRP14/11/20 03:52 PM
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You bring a FWB with you to some bars and she gets absolutely demolished, throws up everywhere in public, holds hands and gets touchy with another dude in front of you and you still don't know where the issue is? Do you have boundaries or standards, because I sure do. Again, as soon as he made a move I immediately took her home with me. What is so hard to understand about that?
/r/askTRP14/11/20 03:49 PM
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She was drunk in bed because that is where I put her to sober up. We came back from a cocktail lounge and without warning the dude strips down to his underwear and crawls into bed a good distance from her while I sit on the bed. He only makes a creepy desperate move when he wakes up a few minutes later.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 03:22 PM
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We don't even know this dude. She knows him through her sister via Snapchat. This is our first time ever meeting him.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 03:21 PM
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Mate guarding in this situation would be me in public in front of people angrily bursting out "stop being all over MY girl bro" while slapping his hand away. I did get her back to the hotel safely to sober up and made the executive decision to take her home once that creepy fuck made a move. Explain what you would have done differently, Alpha God?
/r/askTRP14/11/20 03:14 PM
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Damn, I am about to catch feelings for you too
/r/askTRP14/11/20 03:04 PM
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Hmmmm mate guard or rape guard, pick your option?
/r/askTRP14/11/20 03:04 PM
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No, plate -> FWB -> LTR
/r/askTRP14/11/20 03:01 PM
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Do you not understand the circumstances of my story? If I leave her, she gets raped. My hands were tied at that point.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 02:59 PM
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Agreed, definitely have a bit more emotional attachment to this FWB compared to my other plates/fwb but not still not enough preventing me to just drop her ass on a dime.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 02:57 PM
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That was the initial intention, that shit that happened at the end was the icing on the cake.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 02:56 PM
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Lmao I was literally thinking about that last week. The dating game has been draining for me lately and almost just wanna say fuck it, drop all my girls, focus on myself, and just fucking grind to make as much money as possible.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 02:55 PM
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Well said, I 100% agree with you on this one.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 02:53 PM
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Explain the part in my story where I let her almost get raped? I pushed the dude off of her once he was making a desperate move on her.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 02:53 PM
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We have discussed MFF MMF threesomes and she is 100% not about it
/r/askTRP14/11/20 02:51 PM
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Lmao bro it was absolutely the weirdest fucking situation I have ever been in. I still can't get over it.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 02:50 PM
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He got a hotel for us for the night because it was far from where we lived. The initial plan was to crash there and we dropped her off to sober up before he even mentioned "running a train". How would I have gone about completely changing the plans without looking jealous and obviously mate guarding? Part of me wanted to say fuck it and just leave them to go hook up with another chick. Problem was she would have probably been raped by this dude because she was beyond gone.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 02:48 PM
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Damn, I really fucking love this explanation.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 02:46 PM
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The synopsis is literally the title. Context is important.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 02:46 PM
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Bingo ^
/r/askTRP14/11/20 02:45 PM
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Or that I am invested in the expectation of being respected?
/r/askTRP14/11/20 06:34 AM
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Well she's playing checkers and I am playing chess. I did not mate guard, show jealously, or fall for that bs. I don't have times for those petty games.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 06:31 AM
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I have talked to her about threesomes with other girls and just in general and she is 100% not about it. I would only have a threesome with two girls, not another dude.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 06:30 AM
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I absolutely held her behavior against her. Blaming being "really drunk" is no excuse for being handsy with another dude in front of me. I can be hammered and still be well aware of my actions and everything that is happening.
/r/askTRP14/11/20 06:28 AM
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That is the thing, this FWB in my rotation was 99% fucking awesome but this 1% fuck-up absolutely ruined everything. It completely came out of nowhere and I am still here like what the fuck happened. How could she have fucked up so bad?
/r/askTRP14/11/20 03:42 AM
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The girl's boyfriend sounds like a bitch letting shit like that fly. I do understand the point you are trying to make though.
/r/askTRP23/10/19 01:16 PM
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It is not like we go out partying hard and getting blacked out drunk. Usually it is just chilling at a cocktail lounge.
/r/askTRP23/10/19 01:15 PM
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I am not going out clubbing with my bros. I usually just go to cocktail lounges with them to catch up on shit. I hate loud venues.
/r/askTRP23/10/19 01:10 PM
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Exactly how I am going to approach it
/r/askTRP22/10/19 05:20 PM
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I understand what you are getting at. I do think that there is a clear difference between a bachelorette party and simply going to a bar with a friend to catch up. She always dresses modestly and only dresses slutty if I ask her to. Thanks for the input!
/r/askTRP22/10/19 04:47 PM
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I literally asked why people treat it differently. It was strictly inquisitive.
/r/askTRP22/10/19 04:34 PM
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I have been working on myself a ton lately. Great high paying job, lift, gym, practice BJJ, and saving up money for a house. ​ She rarely goes out with her friends to bars. I can see it being a red flag issue if she did it habitually or dressed slutty but she does not even wear make-up and is very modest. I get that it technically increases the chances of something bad happening but I feel like most of ya'll are truly insecure to even put trust in your LTR.
/r/askTRP22/10/19 04:28 PM
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Yeah I get that it can increase the chances of that happening. So what would the best response be? I heard just let her go and not act phased? Inquiring about who she is going with and where will make me come off as a butt hurt dumb fuck.
/r/askTRP22/10/19 03:44 PM
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You can't tell your LTR what to do and expect them to do it without remorse. Best you can do is express what you believe is the better option and let her make the decision herself. Isn't this just simply explicitly setting a boundary? Women don't handle stress as well as men. She's in grad school, working, and having issues with her home. A small majority of the population would be able to handle that flawlessly. That is why I am considering giving her the benefit of the doubt It's good to lay b…
/r/askTRP03/10/19 06:19 PM
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100% disagree... She already lives 5 minutes away from me. I was on a business trip and all this came out of nowhere. Literally 0 to 100. That is unacceptable without a previous discussion. Completly unwarranted irrational behavior.
/r/askTRP03/10/19 05:58 PM
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I understand that it might not be as realistic as boxing or MMA but BJJ will still teach me how to take someone down and easily subdue them. It is still a good bet over not having any fighting experience whatsoever. That would be a secondary benefit. The primary benefits I am looking for in BJJ are strength and discipline.
/r/askTRP03/10/19 03:05 PM
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She is not buying the house. She is renting. She already lives 5 minutes away from me. The fact that there just so happens to be a house two houses down from me in a relatively major city that has tons of options is telling, is it not?
/r/askTRP03/10/19 02:25 PM
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I have never tried any martial arts so figured BJJ would be a great start. The BJJ gym is walking distance from my place and I figured it will only help me positively. Whether I switch to a different martial art is yet to be determined. It is better than nothing is basically what I am getting at.
/r/askTRP03/10/19 02:25 PM
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I guess it is battling internally with hoping people can genuinely change but AWALT. My turn just might be over...
/r/askTRP03/10/19 02:16 PM
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It sounds like your goal for the breakup is for her to learn and ultimately get back with her. If you break up with an LTR it should be for real and you shouldn’t be thinking about taking her back. Use dread game on her instead of your goal is to “lay down the law” But if I break-up, I am absolutely taking it seriously. If she is not going to dramatically change, I will undoubtedly not even entertain the idea of getting back with her. If she is willing to change, then there is a possibility. Thi…
/r/askTRP03/10/19 01:56 PM
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Haha I do that it it works fine. I'm making the distinction of her sucking my dick randomly haha
/r/askTRP18/07/19 04:04 PM
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Me being engulfed in my career is my purpose and keeps my time scarce. It's a win-win. I love what I do but given my position and income I need to bust my ass. The issue I can see that is happening recently is that I'm burning out and have no time or energy for other aspects of life. Still working on that balance.
/r/askTRP18/07/19 03:20 PM
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We have been dating for about 10 months. She never denies me and is very submissive. I'm bringing up the point that initiate sex mostly.
/r/askTRP18/07/19 03:12 PM
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On your last point, it is always nice to be reminded of that. Makes things a lot easier. AWALT. ​ She is definitely getting too comfortable. I am trying to figure out ways to maneuver this.
/r/askTRP18/07/19 12:14 PM
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You gotta balance comfort and dread in a LTR. Too much off one can kill attraction. That is something I am trying to figure out now. It is a procces...
/r/askTRP18/07/19 12:12 PM
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She is always open to it. It just isn't the throwback ravishing bunny sex we used to have I guess. It is getting boring for me... When we go out for drinks it is a different story but I am trying to abstain from alcohol.
/r/askTRP18/07/19 12:11 PM
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Best advice so far
/r/askTRP18/07/19 12:10 PM
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I understand this how men should lead and women should be submissive to this. She is very submissive and is all about me. All I am coming from is like damn it'd be nice if she just started sucking my dick randomly without asking, right? How do I get to that level?
/r/askTRP18/07/19 12:10 PM
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Compared to other women I've dated for this period of time she is ahead in terms of red flags. If this red flag did not exist, I still would not even consider dating her for at least a month and a half more.
/r/askTRP29/10/18 01:27 PM
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She broke up with him.
/r/askTRP29/10/18 01:25 PM
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I have other plates. All the plates spin. Some wobble more than others (more red flags) and might end up breaking. This one compared to the others is the easiest to spin and balance (hence the potential LTR). The purpose of the post was to ask if the situation I outlined should result in a downgrade of potential LTR consideration.
/r/askTRP29/10/18 02:14 AM
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Nope but there is a difference between vetting a potential LTR versus a normal plate.
/r/askTRP29/10/18 02:04 AM
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I'll take this into consideration in the future. Thanks fam.
/r/askTRP22/10/18 03:21 PM
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I agree. In retrospect, the less I talk with women the better. In regards to me "remembering one stupid moment", it was moreso a trend of at least four times she pouted over dumb shit. I am trying to establish and maintain frame before considering a serious LTR with her. To me, this is part of the vetting process and I need to set the foundation for what I expect from the LTR. That is why I wanted to address it, not because it was an isolated event that shook me to my core.
/r/askTRP22/10/18 01:25 PM
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In certain aspects, yes
/r/askTRP22/10/18 01:20 PM
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There is a clear difference between a shit test and being blatantly disrespected... The difference in this case was definitive in her tonality and the given context. This was not a shit test, this was disrespect. And if I'm going to let her slide when she disrespected me how much of a unmanly bitch do I look like that I cannot stand up for myself? My purpose is to establish frame before hopping into a LTR. I'm not going to do that by showing her she can say disrespectful shit to me and get away …
/r/askTRP22/10/18 01:19 PM
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Aren't all women annoying? Just some less than others?
/r/askTRP22/10/18 01:16 PM
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Oh totally, thanks for keeping me in check BrutalMan420BlazeIt
/r/askTRP22/10/18 01:15 PM
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100% agree, I'm just trying to figure out how to go about it. I'll look into it more.
/r/askTRP02/10/18 09:05 PM
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I agree it is a comfort test. What is the best way to go about comfort tests without over validating her or getting into her emotional frame? Is it one of those things where when she wants you to validate her, you validate her 20% of the time?
/r/askTRP02/10/18 09:04 PM
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I've seen her like twice per week in those two weeks. The main reason being that she literally lives three minutes away and most of the women go out with live 10 minutes+. Just way more convenient I guess but I'm still going to date the other women as well. I agree, I will probably hit her up to hang out in around two weeks.
/r/askTRP02/10/18 09:00 PM
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I guess it's the major trend that I see while looking through TRP.
/r/askTRP02/10/18 11:08 AM
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"Checks all the boxes" as in no red flags so far. I've dealt with heavy baggage women with no ambition before and she does not fall into that category at this time.Why is the majority sentiment in TRP to not go down on a girl? Yeah I get that it may be looked at as being submissive but I genuinely love eating out a girl and having her be under my control. Also foreplay makes sex wayyyyy better. I may not be understanding something?So if I was not supposed to buy into her emotional bullshit, what…
/r/askTRP02/10/18 12:00 AM
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Agreed, that is what I mentioned in a previous response above. To be honest, I am pretty confident in passing shit tests but always have issues when confronted with comfort tests. What are the typical ways to approach comfort tests without losing your masculine frame and getting into her emotional frame by showing validation?
/r/askTRP01/10/18 11:55 PM
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Yeah, I basically told her that I like and am content with what we have going on. The fact that she is acting like this and putting me in such a situation only two weeks is the first red flag for me.
/r/askTRP01/10/18 11:51 PM
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A few things... I have never told her directly I am dating other women. Whenever she mentions it, I do not deny or admit I am. I simply state that it is not any of her business. The reason she does ask is how I compose myself and how I act. No clothing of another woman was in my bedroom whatsoever. I would not say she was giving me a shit test. She was visibly uncomfortable and was not into it because of what was on her mind. I believe all it was was a poorly but understandably timed comfort tes…
/r/askTRP01/10/18 11:35 PM
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Exactly. Neediness is not attractive. The fact that I am outcome independent and do not care if she leaves or not, shows that I have an abundance mindset and makes me more desirable. It's also part of push and pull.
/r/askTRP10/09/18 01:04 PM
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On it like clockwork. Thanks for the input.
/r/askTRP07/09/18 11:07 PM
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hmm I sort of thought the same but I will see what happens in retrospect
/r/askTRP07/09/18 06:57 PM
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Done. She hit me with "Ouch. Okay. Can you call me when you get a chance?" Told her "I can't, I have too much going on today." Headed to Canada tonight for a good time.
/r/askTRP07/09/18 06:38 PM
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Equally frustrating how many guys are condescending to those who are newly aquatinted with TRP and ask questions. If I'm fucking up, let me do that. No mistakes, just lessons to be better in the future. Best way to learn is to do, fuck up, and adjust. I do understand your more tenured viewpoint towards someone who is relatively new to a concept as TRP.
/r/askTRP07/09/18 05:35 PM
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I respect that angle. So fuck it, I'll just keep it simple.
/r/askTRP07/09/18 04:04 PM
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I am basically looking for advice (as a somewhat noobie to TRP) to see if the dread game angle is even justifiable in this situation. So maybe a bit of both? Oneitis is not the problem here. I see this plate 1-3 per month. Just figured practice makes perfect so why not get into the swing of things at different levels?
/r/askTRP07/09/18 03:48 PM
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Dread game in this instance
/r/askTRP07/09/18 03:45 PM
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Understood.
/r/askTRP07/09/18 03:30 PM
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I get that but surely there is some level of gaming plates as well. It might not be as involved effort-wise as an FWB or LTR so why not?
/r/askTRP07/09/18 03:27 PM
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So basically along the lines of "Hey I have to cancel plans tonight. An old friend hit me up and she is only in town for the weekend." Figured adding some vague context of me being with another woman to add to the dread?
/r/askTRP07/09/18 03:26 PM
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I understand your point and I feel the same way but why not utilize other TRP strategies to my advantage as well? I am still learning this whole process and want to cover many areas of TRP as much as possible.
/r/askTRP07/09/18 03:19 PM
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Absolutely agreed. I've been learning how to vet better for LTRs. I am new to TRP but holy shit I have learned a ton so far and I really dig this community. She called me up with that bullshit and my first reaction was fuck it I'm gonna go to the gym to work on myself. Maxed out my bench and had a blast with the people there. Pre-TRP me would have been an emotional pussy, now I'm learning to give less fucks. It's great.
/r/askTRP05/09/18 12:39 AM
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She's been my plate since early June and this is out of normal behavior. I definitely have a hunch that she is just making up this shit and lying because I have been no contact focusing on my own shit. She initiated contact after the week and three texts in was talking about that shit. Smelled it from a mile away.
/r/askTRP05/09/18 12:35 AM
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I felt more disrespected than jealous. I'll consider just leaving her as a plate but she definitely is not LTR material. Way too many red flags going on so that is why I have been keeping my distance.
/r/askTRP05/09/18 12:34 AM
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Not so much of ONEitis, more so disrespected. She is definitely one of my better plates. It was more so reassurance on how I handled the situation and advice on what to do next being that I am new to TRP and have not been in this situation yet.
/r/askTRP05/09/18 12:32 AM
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I handled it very well. Did exactly as that. Agreed and amplified. Pretty much said well next time you suck his dick hopefully he can get it up. Acted like nothing happened and carried on.
/r/askTRP05/09/18 12:30 AM
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Got it
/r/askTRP05/09/18 12:28 AM
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Also to clarify, I made plans with her this weekend before she mentioned this shit. Considering cancelling and just taking another chick instead. Then again, I don't want to seem butthurt about it either which was her goal in the first place.
/r/askTRP04/09/18 09:24 PM
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My reaction was a doesn't bother me no reaction. Now just trying to see what move I make next.
/r/askTRP04/09/18 09:24 PM
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I understand this sentiment. May just say screw it and just keep fucking her and leave it at that.
/r/askTRP04/09/18 09:23 PM
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She's definitely trying to make me jealous and the fact I literally had no reaction to it probably makes her even more upset. Again, I almost feel as if she's lying just to fuck with me. I've hinted I am seeing other people but never delved into detail whatsoever or let her know what I'm up to.
/r/askTRP04/09/18 09:22 PM
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She's had sex with two people and that's including me. I know that as a fact based on her past and it'd be highly unusual for her to fuck some random but we can't trust these hoes so I'm probably wrong.
/r/askTRP04/09/18 09:20 PM
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Here's the thing. I got a hunch that she's straight up lying to me to make me jealous. Again, it's another red flag nonetheless.
/r/askTRP04/09/18 09:19 PM
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Thanks fam. And the fact I have read receipts on really adds the extra punch
/r/askTRP01/01/18 06:18 PM
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Gotcha! Still learning slwoly but surely. Thanks fam.
/r/askTRP25/11/17 11:46 PM
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I'm feeling the same way about the flaking. What would be a proper response? Is no response the best response? New to the whole TRP thing and it is definitely interesting. Awesome community with loads of great advice.
/r/askTRP25/11/17 11:13 PM
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Hmmm I can understand that viewpoint. I guess my intentions was to be spontaneous and assertive. Is "maybe next week" not a good enough counter offer?
/r/askTRP25/11/17 11:11 PM
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