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You are speaking way beyond the topic of this post. It seems you have a grudge towards most men you've met in your life, and formed your opinion already coming in. You deliberately described the men as greasy looking and criminal looking from the outset, there is no room for arguments as you can describe the "crime scene" however you want. And why are you look at all three of them from behind ("creepily")? If the woman does not seem bothered, why are you even bothered? Did you actually ask the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:47 PM
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I am not even sure what you are trying to say with your V card and hypersexual story, no one cares. Do you understand the distinction presented here: "I care about them policing other people's eyes, but I don't really care them wearing more revealingly (in fact I welcome/love it)." We don't know if looking always invoke negative reactions, some people like it, some people don't. I started the vast majority of my dates by looking at the women I like, and the women like it. It is therefore pointle…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:20 PM
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What losing??? Why is having the logical consistency of holding both men and women accountable losing? That's some weird framing there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:15 PM
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I am not even sure what you are trying to say with your V card and hypersexual story, no one cares. Do you understand the distinction presented here: "I care about them policing other people's eyes, but I don't really care them wearing more revealingly (in fact I love it)." We don't know if looking always invoke negative reactions, some people like it, some people don't. I started the vast majority of my dates by looking at the women I like, and the women like it. It is therefore pointless to br…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:12 PM
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?? "I personally would agree it is partly the men's fault as per your post" It seems you are the one chickening out from holding women accountable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:04 PM
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And one more question: how does "not caring" look to you? I would never tell a woman to wear a particular (class of) outfit instead. In fact, as a young man, I welcome and encourage (not caring?) women to dress more revealingly, but I would look. My main point in this post is the women/people in question, if they feel disgusted by people looking, should then adjust themselves voluntarily, instead of policing others how to use their eyes in public space (that's the predominant societal messaging …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:25 AM
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When you choose an outfit and go out, do you make such a decision based on the assumption that no one would care and look and get no information from your outfit? If so, what are the metrics you use when deciding an outfit? Comfort? Genuinely curious. And why should bikini (or any similar outfits) be the standard to be normalized? Why not fully go nude or something else? Why is blending in and normalization the goal? Didnt you just write no one should care, meaning there should be no norm at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:01 AM
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Maybe a deeper philosophical question for you: would you want a world where nobody are attracted to any sexual body features? And nobody looks at any body features and find them amazing? (P.S. I am a doctor)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:05 AM
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She thinks she sounds smart. A few sentences in I can already tell she is not here trying to debate in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:01 AM
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I think the problem is that those people deep down actually still want certain attention from certain people and be looked at a certain way by them, that's why they protest strongly that they must be allowed to dress (or even go nude) however they want. If the goal is really to reduce attention to certain parts of your body as much as possible, the solution is much more straightforward and is actually solvable with science, statistics and trial and error. That is the elephant in the room, and wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:50 AM
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Men looking at you = not showing respect and requiring consent Women looking at you = showing respect Gotcha, good luck surviving in society with such a confusing double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:27 AM
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Does someone blatantly lifting a middle finger at you happen that often? Does someone profusely staring at you followed by some unwanted actions happen that often? That is why I said highly specific. I suspect you are just imagining that it happens often enough that looks (which is the topic of discussion) turn into these specific subsequent, undesirable events. If one were to do some raw statistics, you are probably looked at thousands of times throughout a single day, how much percentage of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:17 AM
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As I wrote clearly in the post, men or women does not matter. Getting mad over looking, to the point you want to police others from looking, is an incredibly childish behavior overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:06 PM
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what? and who are you replying to?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:04 PM
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What on earth are you replying? It is a simple yes and no question
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:02 PM
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This is a question for you. Would you say the same to those women who tolerate their bad boyfriend? I personally would agree it is partly the men's fault as per your post. It is not whataboutism, it is about checking your logical consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:49 PM
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You only want women to look at you as your previous comment implied. Why not simply wear a sign which says exactly that? Otherwise no one knows your wishes. What did you not understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:46 PM
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Then same for women who put up with the proclaimed abusive boyfriend. But in men cases, people always say the men should have self-control and not do bad things. Why is it now different for women being the bad people?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:30 PM
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You have not answered anything from my previous comment. Do you really think there is no quantitative, statistical difference in how much looks one would get the more revealingly one dresses, compared to the population average ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:22 PM
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You did not answer: Why shall the surrounding people (who has no perfect knowledge) cater to a person who wants to filter down only certain attention but not all? No one reads mind, if you want to be clear, wear a sign which says who is allowed and who is not, will you do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:18 PM
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Yes, and nobody reads mind. The onus is on you, wear a sign which says that then people would know. Otherwise, do not complain. And this actually hits the elephant in the room here, the women that you implied are actually dressing to get attention, just a certain attention from a portion of people. Now the philosophical question arises: why shall the surrounding people (who has no perfect knowledge) cater to the person who wants to filter down only certain attention but not all?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:11 PM
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You are being disingenuous here. Do you really think there is no quantitative difference in how much looks one would get when one dresses revealingly (men or women doent matter)? Tons of studies show people unconsciously look at attractive features more, even in 2D images. Also do you know the concept of a statistical effect? (I didnt see you reply to Hungry-Plantain nor my question about Burka not being optimal for reducing attention). Everyone gets a baseline amount of looks, attention, approa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:02 PM
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True. But controlling people on where their eyes point towards would always sound silly to be. Mainly because it is largely reflexive, unlike speeches and actual actions to physically touch people, which would require some pre-meditation and conscious thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:56 PM
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That is hugely contextual and cultural, by no means it is a universal rule/norm. Looking at others in some culture show respect, show that you know their presence, acknowledge their beauty, etc. I suspect you are imagining a very specific form of staring at someone that is statistically likely to be followed by some subsequent unwanted actual actions. Like you are refering to something very specific like raising the middle finger (versus raising your thumbs up which is completely different). In …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:51 PM
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Primary sexual characteristics: the organs and structures directly involved in reproduction Secondary sexual characteristics: physical traits that develop during puberty as a result of male/female sex hormone increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:05 PM
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You are the one moving goal post here. You should wear gloves or some other things if your hand (and only your hand) is constantly touched by mosquitoes (mosquitoes are biologically real). Same for any other body parts that you find getting a lot of attention (but which you dont want). Also, no one is talking about fantasy here (no one can even read minds), we are talking about pure eyeball reactions in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:57 PM
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You think there is no middle ground? You think me as a dude wear underwear and go out purposed (purposedly) and women wear bikini has no business in getting eyeballs? Maybe the Burkas has weird psychological effect and is not an optimal outfit for reducing attention? As I wrote in the post, test something else out, if you dont want attention but is getting it now. You cannot control people's eyeballs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:49 PM
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That's a rational expectation. Applaud. See my similar response above "Until someone touches me physically or verbally addressed me that is not welcomed, I ain't got no right stopping anyone from simply looking at me. "
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:45 PM
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That was my point, there is no inherent difference. People draw their own line, which leads to inconsistent and pointless discussion. Until someone touches me physically or verbally addressed me that is not welcomed, I ain't got no right stopping anyone from simply looking at me. That's their right to use their own eyes. I think it is rather pointless to try to control how people use their eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:44 PM
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You think women don't also stare and hit on each other, and some end up being undesirable? It leads to another question, why are some women and most men not allowed to stare and hit on others who they deem to have attractive physical body parts? Is it because of societal norm? Is it because some dudes are more attractive and confident, or feel more safe to the one receiving attention? And why shall the world cater to the person who wants to filter down only certain attention? (genuinely asking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:38 PM
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Well, good on you if you or your girl friends are not one of them. Wanting to excel in study, sports, be an activist for a social cause, travelling all over the world is unrealistic and over-exaggerating? You probably aren't very active in the dating-woman scene (assuming you are not bi or lesbian), this is literally most women's aspirations I heard firsthand. Sometimes a woman only openly states their bigger wishes and aspirations in the context of dating. Some of your quiet, unassuming girl fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:13 PM
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The only reason I do not want to engage in-depth with you is you keep twisting my main points or addressing tangential points at best. I don't know how you read "young women are too overloaded as they do triple the amount of things their mother and grandmother were trying to achieve" and conclude that my point is that "young women are trying to outdo their grandma", I am simply doing a raw count of things young women are trying to achieve. You can also easily substitute 50 countries to 30, 40, 5…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:41 PM
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Sometimes I wonder where some commenters live and what age bracket they are in (genuinely curious). Next to nobody in the western europe (are able to) pick one perfect person and date for the rest of their live. Dating is for experiment and figuring out whether both parties want to continue. Just further below you have women agreeing with me about the experimental aspect, and some women even expressed how "icky" it is for someone (typically a man) committing early on. In three quarters of the ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:05 AM
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Yea I don't know where they are from, and I don't deny that some people are too poor to travel. But every other family in the wealthy part of Europe can easily rack up 20+ countries since a young age. Also, every other young european women list travelling as one of their "hobbies" these days...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 09:52 AM
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In most cases, the women were the one who left or ghost at some point, even with their own words, actions (sex) and promises that they want to continue seeing me. I don't even get to "decide". In all cases, if I like a woman, I'd tell her without a doubt and that I want to continue to see her and show it through my actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 10:49 PM
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The problem still persists if you think about it - why are so many young "beautiful" women so indecisive? (if that's what you think my picking went wrong). Sure, it may reduce the number of women with that issue but the problem is still here and corroborated by many men recurringly (I never said all women btw, it is your words). This post is also not about "how I can improve my own result", in fact, I am pretty satisfied already.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 10:44 PM
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Very good point. Thanks for the wise words.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 10:41 PM
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I think you are just putting words in my mouth for the sake of your own argument. Wanting, or feeling the need to excel in many things and travelling to many countries is not the same as actually doing them, they are "attempting" only, there're worlds apart between wanting to and actually reaching that goal. But it does not help that "wants" alone occupies one's mind, hence being overloaded. Being ambitious to achieve multiple things but not reaching them in fact takes up an even greater toll/ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 10:36 PM
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Good on you to have figured out (some of) what you want. I know it is hard, but you are you in the end, you don't have to cater to 10 different societal expectations, and I think that's what most young women struggle at. Most men, in the context of dating, have a comparatively simpler goal (shallow or what is another story).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:40 PM
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Why should I (we) go over the trouble to mentally inconvenience myself, if I am already satisfied with a smart beautiful lady (which most young women are) and who I can communicate with reliably (but most young women are't). Call me low standard all you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:25 PM
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Fair, I can't tell you a clear statistic, as it is my own lived experience and other young guys I heard of. But may I know your age bracket? Half of the young women in the country I live in goes to college, and a lot of them are extremely competitive in everything and try to "live life to their fullest (schedule)". They actually have their schedule completely planned out months ahead, and you can't tell me they are not overloaded (and they actually tell people they are, as if it is some kind of …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:20 PM
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Fair. But many young women take it to the next level by e.g., words and actions don't match, saying they want an LTR with me but ghosting after a week. This is happening with women that have gone on multiple dates: if by the 3rd, 4th dates, they can't express what they want or defeat their own words/promises, it is a big issue. The women I made out with was after a few normal dates already, and not under the influence of alcohol or the nightclub scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:12 PM
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Good analysis. I agree with most of it. But my point is behavioral changes that de-center "venues" and prioritize the actual quality of the person can increase the odds that one finds a satisfactory partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:21 PM
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Maybe. But young women of late are the most vocal about any kinds of justice/morality topics, or all about inclusion of diverse preferences, appearances and behaviors. They are much more educated and intelligent compared to former generations. They are also the least likely to date for the sake of money. And many women are indeed observably not happy even if they got with a tall, conventionally attractive chad. They claim they want something deeper. The problem is their actions don't match their…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:00 PM
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Your local plumbers, farmers or teachers. Hang around where they work. Joke aside, you probably come across 100s of men that would fit your type, but that you didn't bother to talk to on a weekly basis (simply because you aren't in a socializing-conducive space). Thats the entire point of the post. When external space massively determines who you date, but not the actual person, then you are in for a rough ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:53 PM
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I think yours is black and white thinking. There are many levels of "sociability", but women frequently flock to the most sociable group (not necessarily one guy), when in fact Tom who are just slightly less sociable/loud (who would otherwise have no problem socializing), but who isn't a flocker and bootlicker get left out. The women haven't even appeared in front of Tom for socializing to be possible. It is a physics problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:41 PM
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But the problem is many women openly stated they don't actually like those highly extroverted, flirtatious men frequenting all kinds of social gatherings or parties. They prefer an honest, hardworking man who don't go out and have fun (with other women) every other day. It is their words, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:33 PM

"Women make it incredibly easy if they're interested, and you'd have to be a social fuckwit to miss the glaring signs that she's into you." Go have a look at the introvert, social anxiety and crush subs etc., you are missing a huge chunk of women I am afraid, especially most Gen Z women who are socially inept. I had double digits number of women who admitted crushing me strongly but never showed anything flirty and emotional, until after I completely lost interest. Then, they wonder why I left o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:22 PM
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I think OP meant adaptive selection or adaptive evolution, that's the term biologists would use. Natural selection does not guarantee improvement in survival/species longevity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:06 AM

Fisherian runaway does produce ornaments with no/negative survival function, and traits downright dangerous to the point of extinction. For human survival, my biggest worry is the female obsession with size and height. Global warming killed off large-sized organisms disproportionately in paleontological records. Big body size is an adaptation for cold climate. But I would say this tendency to Fisherian runaway is more deeply biological/genetically-based than anything modern related (i.e., we are…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 10:44 AM
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Sounds like a loser mindset. This goes for every problem in life and society e.g., I heard climate change is scary, I don't know what to do (at the moment), let's just opt out of modern lifestyle altogether. Regardless of how much your social feed is populated by horror stories, statistics still showed that partnered up women are happier than single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 01:24 PM
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Funny how women can tell whether a man is good in bed, is selfish, don't do housework, etc, when they never want/try to get to know 99% of the men, just purely filtered based on look and circumstance. With an increasingly online-influenced culture and mindset, having prejudiced expectations without getting to know someone would only become more and more rampant. People (both men and women) are largely living in their own head. If you developed a prejudiced opinion about somebody you don't even k…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 11:28 AM
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Well, turns out you actually didnt read the post and I am talking to a bot brain, already sensed that when you keep talking about your personal unique "nuanced take" that is tangential to the post at best. I am concerning about young boys inequality problem that they face, where have you read that I want to date 20-22? Why not make up 18-20? 10 years old?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:46 PM
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Maybe I should have used another word, it is not a loophole, it is a massive pothole that can sink a village. A narrative is internally inconsistent if there are too many loopholes, yet people still entertain it (like Nazi's narrative, or any other successful narrative, many people do not see the problem if you do not point them out). How often do you think people keep thinking about nuances and details, when our brain is notoriously good at saving every bit of energy? We are born to use general…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:38 PM
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No you may not need to donate your personal kitchen to the hungry people, but you should not say things and create a narrative that would harm them from getting food (e.g., the hungry people are unsanitory, and we should avoid interaction with them). No offense, you talk like a young person just for the sake of arguing. Anyone who disputes narrative can influence preferences, even tendency to consent, and in fact every human behavior can remain sleeping in their sweet dream. Narratives even cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:25 PM
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Women prefer a charming, confident guy who can talk to her about things she is interested in, and do things that make her happy, that's all. But that's a minority of men. Now, factor in one more engineered criterion i.e., small age difference, the pool gets even smaller, and those men in this same-age pool are extremely rewarded (i.e., amplifying inequality), and are often the sons of wealthy, resourceful family. The very small age gap preference is largely added post-hoc as a red-herring. In fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:18 PM
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You can't, at least you can't easily without substantial cost and investment. That's why we shouldn't moralize and generalize something (age-gap = bad) that we dont know well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:43 PM
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This is not in line with the kind of equality the entire progressive West espouses. They want to compensate as much as possible those who are disadvantaged at an early age, whether it is due to history, racism, household economy, sexism...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:41 PM
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You are fine with the listed age gaps, but many are not. GenZ have been talking about despising a 3+ years age gap for some time now. Btw, the ones who pushed the narrative can talk about it, but the one who sees loopholes in it cannot reply back?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:18 PM
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Needs are engineered (this is common knowledge). When same-age (both young), only those young men with advantaged background cut the line (further building more experience and advantage), that's the inequality part. Disadvantaged men can only increased their dating prospect values after getting to certain age, this is obvious, yet now many women despise these hardworking older men due to narrative. It is all in the post, please read.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:16 PM
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Why is it fine if those who tell young women/men to avoid XYZ have either malicious or miscalculated intent? This goes for everything, it is not fine when a narrative harms society and amplifies inequality (despite claiming to reduce it), knowingly or unknowingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:06 PM
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At least an interesting response. Your philosophy pertains to the "equality" based on merits, whereas my ineqaulity is analysed under the frame of relativity: early advantaged vs. disadvantaged young people facing even more disparity after the age-gap avoidance narrative is pushed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:52 PM
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Right, thanks for the fruitful contribution to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:47 PM
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You really need to learn statistics, I am just being polite replying you. Bringing up one case to refute a society-wide phenomenon (see the title) is not even worth considering to discuss, it is elementary school logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:42 PM
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You don't understand this post. I am saying preferences are engineered to favor elite men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:40 PM
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The rise of adult men singlehood is almost concomitant as the shrinking age gap of relationships and the feminist discourse against age-gap. As with any social study these are just correlation of course. I don't think I need to show you a specific study. Plenty of data floating around, I thought this is common knowledge. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/08/15/a-growing-share-of-us-husbands-and-wives-are-roughly-the-same-age/ https://www.census.gov/newsroom/stories/unmarried-single-am…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:39 PM
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Plus, you have a logical problem, young women would still date Leonardo (despite even bigger power inbalance, so age-gap is a red herring). It is the average man who face increasing struggles dating younger women and is affected the most by the narrative, hence the "inequality". In no part you even refuted me in the slightest way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:27 PM

Learn statistics and what it means by "representative"...holy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:23 PM
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Good for you, bravo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:22 PM
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Read feminist and GenZ discouses. Talk to young women, many do think slightly older (>5 years) men are automatically "inappropriate" to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:22 PM
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As if these 0.0001% celebs are representative for the average man, and their behaviors deserve even the slightest consideration in moralizing all men (age-gap avoidance is now a society-wide narrative, not limited to celeb). It is not the refutation you think it is. Btw, do you think Leonardo was not rewarded consistently in his younger years? And do you think Leonardo is the one who would struggle to find young women because of this age-gap avoidance narrative? He is still getting young women, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:17 PM
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Yea, but then they are no longer a high-expectation women if they can just lower the standards at will. This aside, I think it is genuinely impossible to ask anyone, men or women, to "become attracted" to who they are not attracted to right now, at least this will take a long time if it could even be achieved. Humans can't change feelings. Taking a first step to approach men sounds considerably easier in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:52 PM
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If men are a "bug", then women preference is surely a bigger bug. They hold much greater power in sexual selection, determining the traits of all the next of kins.
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