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Human interaction can be modeled - just like behavioral scientists model how people learn or how economists model how people use their resources. It's hard, but not impossible. What makes it hard is there's so much factors that we cannot isolate - but if we have enough observations you can isolate them statistically. Facebook and many other popular sites uses data to model human behavior[1] OK Cupid blog is full of data driven observations which can be simplified to 'in general, this is how peop…
/r/seduction25/08/14 09:15 PM
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Also, his theory is not fact. Simple example: He said that you would need a certain number of hours of interaction before sex could happen. Not true. Sometimes sex can happen very quickly. It's also not true that interactions have to go through a certain number of phases in order. First, every interaction is different, every girl is different, and every girl's needs and desires in the moment are different (Sometimes a girl may go out to get laid and just wants to bang a hot guy. Sometimes a girl…
/r/seduction25/08/14 11:23 AM
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It's impossible to know exactly what's going wrong just from your post, because it could be any number of things. How do you attempt to F-close them at the end of your date? You say you have a bit of small talk on the date and have fun. Do you mean that you never have any deep, more intimate conversations on dates? When the date is over, do you feel like you two know each other on a deeper level?
/r/seduction06/08/14 09:42 AM
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'Never talk about X on a date' never makes sense to me. The commonly heard 'it's not what you say, it's how you say it' applies here as well. It's about how you two connect and the feelings you share on the date, not about the particular words that were spoken. I had a first date a while ago where I realized that I had already discussed a good number of big 'NO-NO's, and I mentioned it to her, and then for fun I continued discussing such 'off-limit' subjects. We discussed exes, death, religion, …
/r/seduction06/08/14 09:34 AM
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It's about how you frame the interaction. Even though the advice may be correct in that trying to 'always be closing' might get you more 'closes' than not 'being closing', it is a mindset that frames interactions with women like sales. (Although, actually, losing any sort of neediness to close might make you more attractive too, but that's not what DOPE_AS_FUCK_COOK was referring too.) The truth is that women are just like you. They are just. like. you. They are persons just like you are; same k…
/r/seduction26/07/14 12:29 AM
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Interesting discussion. My guess is that you have always been proving yourself and being goal-oriented to get what you want, so that now every single success experience you've had (whether with girls or friends or professionally) was the 'consequence' of you trying and proving yourself. So you believe at some level that to get success, you NEED to be proving yourself all the time. So to let go of proving, letting go of goals to meet people and get girls and get friends, just going out and being,…
/r/seduction26/07/14 12:01 AM
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First thing I learned when (or rather, just before) I lost my virginity. Why doesn't it go in! I'm pressing up against the vagina, aren't I??
/r/seduction14/07/14 04:05 PM
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He kissed her and pulled her hair, presumably in the back of her neck. She was into him and the kissing and hair pulling turned her on. There's no 'trick' here. It's just going for the kiss. If you believe you need a trick, then you either believe that girls won't want to kiss you without using tricks, or you feel you need an excuse to kiss her instead of just being upfront about it. Overcome those issues instead of looking for tricks.
/r/seduction08/07/14 03:06 PM
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You could try Mark Manson's Connection course. http://markmanson.net/courses/connection-course
/r/seduction22/06/14 06:12 AM
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Second, rats are much more polygamous compared to humans are. Physiologist(the study of hormones) theorize that this is due to the amount of the hormone VASOPRESSIN. If you want to compare human relationships to another animal, you want to compare them to the Prairie Vole. They have monogamous relationships similar to how humans do. Don't some experts theorize that humans used to be a lot more polygamous thousands of years ago? The concept of 'marriage for life' as a mandatory and valued thing i…
/r/seduction12/06/14 10:32 PM
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BUT, only once she's satisfied with your social value. I agree, but your value doesn't require any time or 'DHVs' to build or anything like that. If you are a normal, respectable-looking guy who comes across as socially competent and you compliment a girl directly (as an opener), then that will have a positive effect a lot of the time. In fact, you complimenting her directly will make you more attractive to her, not less. And you instantly frame the interaction as a sexual thing. You instantly c…
/r/seduction12/06/14 10:20 PM
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Everything sixsidepentagon said. Vulnerability, as Mark defines it, means doing away with the mask, dropping the shield, showing who you really are, whether people will like it or not. That is the opposite of neediness. People hide the parts of themselves that they deem less attractive, and people do what they think will make others like them. Needy people do this most of all: much of their actions are in some way designed to make other people like them. But, ironically, the more we grovel for o…
/r/seduction12/06/14 10:10 PM
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I do this, except directly instead of subtly. I'll joke: 'ehm, this is the part where you say something', or 'I said all this, and you respond with 'Yeah'?!', or I'll just say 'Okay, now it's your turn to ask/tell me something'. People have no idea how direct you can be. No need for subtle shit. If she still won't contribute to the conversation I'll try to figure out why and I'll probably do that out loud too and even ask her feedback on it. That can be awkward, but after the initial awkwardness…
/r/seduction04/06/14 05:20 PM
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If you exclusively attract needy, boring and broken girls into your life, it may be time to take a look at yourself. Women, like men, come in all varieties, from needy to confident, from broken to emotionally healthy and mature, from manipulatieve and bitchy to supremely kind, sweet and supportive. And like attracts like. Likewise, sex with a needy, boring, broken girl isn't fun but the same with a girl you have a fun and deep emotional connection with is amazing.
/r/seduction04/06/14 02:27 PM
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Any general scenario (that can be approached in a thousand different ways for a thousand different reasons) never has a specific 'right' response. Believing that such a perfect response exists means you don't understand social interactions. But this particular response is awkward more than anything. If a girl goes so far as to say 'let's just be friends', it means she probably already noticed that you are into her, and she's mustered up the courage to reject any sexual or romantic involvement by…
/r/seduction30/05/14 05:44 AM
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i realized that it didn't matter that she flaked, because by sticking up for my own opinion, i began to like myself and gain confidence in who i was. so it didn't matter that she flaked, because well, it doesn't matter. Yes! This is much of the power of vulnerability, but it's usually overlooked because it's so hard to understand until you experience it yourself. (And it sounds cheesy - not valuable - when you hear about it but don't experience it yet.) The main benefit of putting yourself out t…
/r/seduction30/05/14 05:27 AM
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Exactly. Men who must always pretend to not have feelings and to be 'tough' 100% of the time are just playing games and wearing masks. All humans have emotions. Hiding them for the approval of others is not strength.
/r/seduction13/05/14 04:26 PM
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Another way that you can be vulnerable in a situation like this is to talk about what's going on directly. Very, very few people actually do this. For example, in the situation above, OP said: I knew she was into me but something was not right.....She was being really cold and responding really poorly to kino. A simple reaction to this situation would be to say: Hey, you seem a little cold/distant. Are you feeling okay? Almost everybody would dance around the issue while wondering what's wrong a…
/r/seduction13/05/14 03:56 AM
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Being needy has nothing to do with being vulnerable in the way that Mark Manson defines it. Being vulnerable means being real and showing yourself, flaws and all, even if that can mean that others may reject you for it. Needy people are often FAR from vulnerable. A needy person will change his behavior to try and appear more attractive to the other. That's the opposite of vulnerability. The needy person may hide their real opinions and go along with whatever the other says. Again, that's the opp…
/r/seduction13/05/14 03:50 AM
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That is what ultimately shifted my focus away from 'having game' to 'being happy' and the women in my life have definitely taken notice. That sounds like a very healthy change of attitude. But couldn't it be assumed that by releasing your ego and understanding that your self doesn't exist is a boost to your self-confidence, in-it-of-itself? As I grow in my studies, I do truly feel less attached to a lot of things and while I am far from perfect, I feel that this has made me wholeheartedly happie…
/r/seduction10/05/14 06:13 AM
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Since we're talking about Buddhism and the like... If you use Buddhism and other such teachings (non-dualism, 'power of now', etc.) to become more attractive to women or to pick up women, then you do not understand these teachings. These teachings say that attachment leads to suffering and that desire is the result of ignorance. That means the desire for women is ignorance. In fact, I've heard that one test or requirement of gurus in India used to be total celibacy. If they were not completely c…
/r/seduction09/05/14 08:27 PM
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Alsof note how the girl of his dreams is an ice queen who apparently doesn't treat men nicely. That's one way to avoid happiness.
/r/seduction07/04/14 01:31 PM
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I'm getting upset when they don't reply. It's pathetic and I hate these feelings. You're being incredibly hard on yourself. It is natural to become attached after you have sex with a person. Instead of trying to be an unattached robot, set standards and boundaries for yourself: If a girl suddenly stops responding for a long period of time, she is either not interested in you or she may be playing games. In either case, you deserve better. Instead of clinging to the idea of affection from these g…
/r/seduction04/03/14 04:39 PM
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Yay!
/r/seduction17/02/14 07:46 AM
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Whatever angle makes it seem impressive and fierce. Obviously. I agree with the trimming. Then I usually just take it so you see it from my perspective/eyes, while sitting, in a way that makes it seem biggest. For me that's when I sit on the edge of the chair, leaning backwards, legs slightly apart, possibly even pulling my balls back so there's more dick to see. Some girls love this. However, most girls don't like random penises, only penises they care about. Also, I would prefer she receives i…
/r/seduction16/02/14 11:29 PM
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Even better would be make friends with guys who know their stuff when it comes to women and dating and male attractiveness, who knows how much you stand to benefit from knowing the truth. Most normal people, including random women, would be unwilling to say 'hurtful' things. Some men have bad hygiene and aren't even aware of it. Or they dress very badly, have shit hair. Or they have bad attitudes. Or they are terribly uncalibrated and socially oblivious and don't know they are. If you are so ign…
/r/seduction29/01/14 10:58 PM
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Don't confuse 'low status' with 'introversion'. That might be the problem right there. First, if you are in a club and you accept your introversion fully and are not afraid to be calm and quiet, you can be calm and feel good about it. Then you might even appear confident - calm and confident - which can be quite attractive! So calm and introverted is not the same as low status behavior at all. Being an introvert also does not mean having bad posture and a weak voice and 'low status behaviors' li…
/r/seduction27/01/14 09:54 PM
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Being an introvert simply means that you prefer being alone to being in loud, crowded places, or that you prefer calmer activities most of the time. You can be an introvert and still be an excellent conversationalist and have good social skills. A mistake I used to make was considering introversion a weakness or a flaw. You're probably going to be an introvert the rest of your life. That's not inherently bad. Again, you can be a calm introvert while at the same time being confident and socially …
/r/seduction27/01/14 01:32 PM
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Good post. I've noticed the same in my life. If you can combine genuine respect, interest and kindness with strong boundaries and values and openly express your sexuality, then girls will like you, a lot.
/r/seduction27/01/14 01:22 PM
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Explain how you "start trying to have sex" in detail.
/r/seduction27/01/14 01:14 PM
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Women do not believe that having a high lay count makes them more attractive to men. No woman believes this. A vagina does not become looser if a girl has sex. Fear and tension can make a vagina tighter because a girl involuntarily clenches the muscles in her vagina, for example when a virgin is afraid of pain when she's about to have sex for the first time. But having sex a lot does not make the vagina looser. And if it did, then you should select women who only have one night stands. A woman i…
/r/TheRedPill25/01/14 05:30 PM
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Don't tell her she should text you (how is texting better than messaging?). Ask when she wants to meet up.
/r/seduction13/01/14 01:23 PM
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Yes. Once you have made clear that you are not looking for anything serious at the moment and that you are dating multiple women, women will stop expecting a serious relationship with you and they will start calling you when they want casual sex (helps if you're good in bed!). Some women will not be open to a casual, sexual thing. Accept it and focus on the girls that are open to it.
/r/seduction13/01/14 12:48 PM
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This is a false dichotomy. There are more alternatives besides Nice Guy Syndrom and TRP. Typical Nice Guys who want to trade kindness for sex are equally disliked by many. It is quite common though, for Nice Guys to swing to the other end of the spectrum and become TRP guys. The man who treats women with kindness and respect because that's just what he's like, and who at the same time is honest and forward about his interest in women and does not hide his sexuality, is another type of man. He do…
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 11:55 AM
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Self-fulfilling prophecies, and beliefs and attitudes shaping your lives, are at the core of much of what TRP is. If you truly believe that women are lying, manipulative bitches, then you will perceive lying, manipulative behavior by women everywhere. You will remember this behavior and discount good, honest, stand up behavior by women as the exception (unicorns). These mechanisms have been proven in psychology. Reality is messy with exceptions everywhere. Our minds make things simpler by making…
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 11:29 AM
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This happens very often in FWB situations, and it happens to both men and women. Take some time to see how you really feel. See if you can answer your own questions. If you realize you have developed feelings for her, I would advise you to tell her, and tell her what you want from the relationship. Either she will have developed feelings too and you can start something more serious, or you will end the FWB situation. The worst thing you can do is stay in the situation where you hide your feeling…
/r/seduction29/12/13 04:11 PM
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Yes. The unattractive kind of bragging is you talking positively about yourself and expecting the other to like you because of it. Imagine the guy flashing his expensive watch and expecting people around him to admire him for it, or a guy on a date telling a woman how much he makes and how many cars he has, expecting her to want him because of it. That doesn't mean that you can't talk about the things you are proud of. In fact, being passionate and excited about your own life is very attractive.…
/r/seduction08/11/13 12:55 AM
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Self-respect is required to get respect from others. If you do not respect yourself, others will follow suit. Even for good and kind people, trying to respect a person who has no self-respect is like walking upriver. How do you treat yourself? Do you neglect to do the things you know are good for you, while engaging in activities that harm you or stunt your growth? How do you treat your body? How do you treat yourself emotionally? When another person treats you with disrespect, how do you respon…
/r/seduction08/11/13 12:42 AM
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It's solid advice. What do you think is ridiculous about it?
/r/seduction07/11/13 01:17 AM
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I used to be the same. I wanted to see an indication of interest from each girl I glanced at, and if I didn't get it, then I thought I wasn't attractive enough. Well, it turns out the world doesn't work this way. A woman can be attracted to you and still not glance at you or stare at you. Women don't suddenly break into huge, flirtatious smiles and hold a sign "Approach me, switchfall!". Think of how you walk through a city when you come across attractive girls. Does your face light up, your bod…
/r/seduction19/10/13 10:01 AM
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Honestly, when a girl starts telling me her problems, I just react as if she's making herself look bad (which she is, usually). So i'll usually just act pretty disinterested and say something slightly judgmental. And why do you do that?
/r/seduction18/10/13 10:54 AM
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Those are petty, irrelevant things. Do you realize that you are wallowing in bitterness and self-pity? What are your current goals in life?
/r/seduction17/10/13 07:06 PM
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Go see a therapist. I believe it could benefit you and improve your life. Also, who says that your friends' accomplishments are due to luck?
/r/seduction17/10/13 06:59 PM
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That's awesome! Can you give some examples of things you used to believe about yourself and the world that the book proved wrong? Any other ways it changed your thinking?
/r/seduction11/10/13 05:48 PM
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Hmm... I think it does sound mean and it is an overreaction. It could be a genuine overreaction, since I used to be too much of a nice guy. Or maybe it's funny precisely because it is a mean overreaction. I am honest and respectful with girls I date, so I expect them to view it that way. I'm going to pay attention to what happens next time I come in this situation. Thanks for the feedback, anyway. :)
/r/seduction09/10/13 08:21 AM
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Interesting how everybody hates it. I thought about the situation and that could be what I would actually say, and based on my experience I'd expect a positive response too. Might very well be one of those cases where my 'tone of voice' does not translate at all to text.
/r/seduction08/10/13 02:51 PM
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Fwiw, if it was over text, I would probably respond with something like: "Who are you ordering around now? Go and wash your mouth, little girl." This is said jokingly, but at the same time I completely reverse the dominance/submissiveness. As someone else said, she did start talking to you out of the blue, which means she is at least a little interested. After saying something like that, she will either respond with something like "Haha, but I'm bored!" which means "Yes, I'm not in a position to…
/r/seduction07/10/13 08:59 PM
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I don't really "believe" in shit tests, but this is a pretty clear example of a girl holding a hoop and telling you to jump through it. Trying to entertain her after she commands you to entertain her is a very submissive thing to do. If you go along with that, then you accept your role as submissive in the relationship. She will then view you as submissive and lower status. Imagine telling a guy: "Hey, bitch, grab me a coffee" and the guy responds with "Okay, one second, I'll get it for you!" Ho…
/r/seduction07/10/13 05:14 PM
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Hey TwainsMustache, I'm also a good-looking guy who has gone from awful with women to doing quite well for himself. I just wanted to ask you, do you realize that neediness shines through in your story? Clearly, you realized your actions/perceptions were less than optimal in the end, but I wonder if you grasp the full extent of the neediness in your story. I say this with love and respect. The post I wrote may also be projection on my part, because I struggle with neediness and I'm working on it.…
/r/seduction07/10/13 02:56 PM
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Tell her she's good in bed but you think she could be better. If you want a fuckbuddy, just tell her that's what you're looking for. There is NEVER a need to put a girl down like that. And putting a girl down like that results in her feeling less comfortable, less attractive, less sexy around you. That's a recipe for bad sex.
/r/seduction05/10/13 12:01 PM
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Or the guy will. This. The idea that women are emotional and men aren't is simply inaccurate. I've met a number of very sexual women who were just looking for FWB-type relationships, and the guys would develop feelings for them each time (to their great frustration).
/r/seduction05/10/13 11:59 AM
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It depends on the girl. Although some men are attractive to a lot of women (and other men are attractive to few), not a single man is attractive to all women. What is a 10 to one woman is unattractive to another. To give some examples, based on previous respones: He's optimistic - Plenty of pessimistic, negative women who would get annoyed with that. He's intelligent - Quite a few dumb girls out there who would just label you a nerd. He's humble - Some girls would prefer a macho scumbag over a h…
/r/seduction25/09/13 07:45 PM
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If you want to be good in bed, learn to fuck her mind. Learn what turns women on, what feels good to women, what women fantasize about. Then learn how to use that knowledge to affect her mind (dirty talk plays a big role. Next comes physical dominance). One of the most intense and pleasurable experienes I ever gave a girl did not involve my penis at all. Just my fingers and voice.
/r/seduction13/09/13 02:54 PM
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I (and my friend even more so) talk this way right off the bat, without holding back, and girls very much enjoy this. Again, this is combined with confidence, having boundaries, being sexual, etc. For example, if a girl is not open or honest, I'll call her out on it and I may lose interest. A deep connection is a good thing (unless you are scared of deep connections and wish to avoid them).. And you get these deep connections by asking deep questions, listening well, sharing stuff about yourself…
/r/seduction13/09/13 02:48 PM
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What do you mean with 'stopping anxiety'? Just turning the feelings off?
/r/seduction13/09/13 02:44 PM
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Ehm. You don't just ask a girl to take your virginity. Although it could theoretically work. Do post updates, I'll get the popcorn! But why not just go the regular route... Have dinner, nice conversation, a few drinks (alcohol helps), walk her to her place, kiss, suggest that you'll both go inside, kiss more inside, start moving your hands all over her body while you kiss, hold her ass and pull her up against you while start kissing more passionately, start touching her breasts, start taking off…
/r/seduction13/09/13 12:39 AM
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You can't just 'stop anxiety'. But avoiding a relationship because you don't know if you'll know how to act is like avoiding picking up basketball, because you don't know if you'll be able to dunk right away. This 'strategy' will lead to dying a single man, because you will never know how you'll handle a relationship while staying out of relationships. The only way to learn is to be in a relationship. Classic vulnerability issue. You have to be vulnerable (open yourself up to screwing up) to adv…
/r/seduction13/09/13 12:33 AM
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From my experience, this post is very, very far from the truth. Interesting how people respond positively. My experience is that if you are emotionally available, empathize, truly listen to a girl while having strong boundaries and not being needy, she will fucking love you for it. Literally. I have developed deep, lasting connections with almost every girl I've had sex with. With most of these girls I can talk about all MY problems too, which OP seems to believe scares girls off. Girls actually…
/r/seduction13/09/13 12:25 AM
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Yeah.. It's hard to be honest about it, but that's the best thing you can do. I am incredibly open about sex now, but I remember lying my way through the drinking game "Never have I ever..." when I was still a virgin at 20. I was terrified that I would be found out. But that anxiety is caused by shame about your sexuality. If you overcome the shame, then sex itself is also suddenly much easier to get. A fun thing to do in this situation is to be calm, say that you don't have any crazy stories ye…
/r/seduction10/09/13 10:34 PM
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Actually, becoming overly excited or eager when a girl says she's horny is a sign of cluelessness. She hasn't said she wants sex with you, just that she's horny. She may prefer teasing over actually meeting up. But the fact that she tells you is a good sign. but for now I feel like I'm super awkward to talk to about sex. It's never awkward to talk about sex. How I would respond depends on how my relationship with this girl is. I might ask her more about her horniness and ask her whether she's ma…
/r/seduction03/09/13 09:26 PM
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Then be more specific. What are topics that I do not approve of (based on my post above), that you believe are important and necessary?
/r/seduction31/08/13 12:26 PM
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What you are trying to say is that you are concerned because many people on this subreddit dislike and refuse to lie to, manipulate, belittle, use or hurt women to get their dick wet? Or is your concern caused by some men here wanting to have real, deep, fulfilling connections with women, whether in a casual sexual relationship or in a serious relationship? Or are you confused because men here want to sincerely become attractive men, so that they can be their authentic selves while being around …
/r/seduction31/08/13 11:29 AM
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Aren't there a lot of guys out there that can have good kind of conversation with her Yes, there are a lot of guys that she can be attracted to.
/r/seduction30/08/13 10:15 AM
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When a man and a woman are attracted to each other, then sex can happen. That's how it works on this planet. You don't have to ask if they are interested in sex. We are all sexual beings and we are all interested in sex. If she's into you, then there is a good chance of sex happening. That's implied -- always. If, however, you ask her immediately and directly if she's interested in sex, then you disqualify yourself as an attractive man that she may want to have sex with.
/r/seduction25/08/13 10:06 AM
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How can I can value myself higher than her? Well... That's like the most important question in all of pickup. But... Long story short, she treated me like shit, flaked a lot, showed up late to dates, etc..., and I kept pursuing like a chump. This shows you lack boundaries and self-respect. It basically says: I care about your attention and interest more than I care about my own self-respect. If a girl shows that she does not respect you, you respond by wanting her more and sacrificing more of yo…
/r/seduction23/08/13 01:41 PM
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As an introvert who used to suffer from bad social anxiety and who often isolates himself for days at a time... The more you engage in social interactions, the more 'outgoing' you start to feel and act. This works in a long-term and a short-term way. In the long term, putting yourself in social interactions again and again builds your social skills, and makes you more experienced socially. These things build your social confidence and chip away at your social anxiety. Essentially, your baseline …
/r/seduction23/08/13 01:19 PM
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The problem is the mindset that causes you to bend over backwards to please her and accommodate her while letting her take the lead. There is nothing inherently wrong with saying "Tell me when you're free". If you don't fix the real issue (you valuing her higher than yourself), and then start "acting" that you have a busy schedule, you're at best slightly postponing disaster. You're not fixing anything. The reason for this is, of course, that the needy mindset will be expressed to her in an infi…
/r/seduction23/08/13 01:04 PM
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No. Some men are very good in bed, and some (many) men are not so good in bed. Yes, every woman is different. I've heard the most insane fantasies from women. But there are far more similarities between women than there are differences. To say that a guide on how to get good in bed is worthless just because there are differences between women is nonsense.
/r/seduction20/08/13 08:51 PM
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Be sexual despite the fear. Push yourself. And keep pushing. (I can tell you from the other side of sexual shame and fear that there is practically no limit to what you can tell a girl. Not only will it be okay if you are sexual, but it will make her want you.) Have you heard of the concept of vulnerability? Being vulnerable, putting yourself out there, means showing your desire even if you feel it may fuck things up. What people often don't say is how excruciatingly awful vulnerability can feel…
/r/seduction17/08/13 02:29 PM
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Cool. I read the book, too, and then stopped the exercises after two days... Thanks for the reminder.
/r/seduction07/08/13 07:11 AM
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but you're sole intentions of being a nice guy is to get in her pants and that you didn't really care about her, then it's still abuse? Then you're an insincere, manipulative douche, and you don't really care about her (you're only being nice to get into her pants) and you would hurt her feelings if she found out, which probably will happen sooner or later. There is absolutely nothing abusive about just wanting sex, nor is there anything asshole-ish about taking the lead, being dominant, being c…
/r/seduction04/08/13 11:34 AM
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Normal things (such as an admission of beauty to a woman's face and a subsequent rejection) that would phase normal dudes doesn't phase you, because you are in tune with yourself so much so that she can't throw you off course. Being vulnerable doesn't mean things don't phase you. Being vulnerable can feel AWFUL. You want to show this girl that you're interested, but 'What will she think? She probably doesn't like you, right? And there are people around? And... And...' In this case, you're being …
/r/seduction03/08/13 08:41 AM
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Pay special attention to this sentence in the article Gelnn linked: Any expression of emotions or vulnerability must be unconditional, that is, without expectation, otherwise it’s just another form of manipulation. Vulnerability is NOT a trick or technique. You never 'use' vulnerability to change her mind about you. Being vulnerable means showing your real opinion, your real self, your real desires. You do those things not to make others like you. It's almost the opposite: you do those things, e…
/r/seduction03/08/13 08:37 AM
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It's about intention, not effect. Assertive means that you assert your voice, opinion, boundaries, desires, etc. It does not put others down. You pull yourself up, if anything. When you're what I called 'abusive', you do not feel respect for the girl. You do not hold her in high esteem. You may like to use her (or rather her body) for sex, for your pleasure. But you feel no affection for her. Your actions come from a place of disrespect. From this place, making fun of her for your own amusement,…
/r/seduction03/08/13 08:08 AM
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It seems like your main points are what kind if girl this kind if game will attract, to be honest it will be the really hot pampered types who are probably insecure. Some girls will be the crazy type too. But if its a one night stand then who cares? If I'm just going to bang a girl for one night and never see her again then all I really care about are the looks Yeah, I might be projecting my own values onto others. [Edited: Cut out stuff] I think there is a clear difference between being ASSERTI…
/r/seduction02/08/13 06:33 PM
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Everybody is entitled to their opinion. I stated mine. I tried to paint a somewhat objective picture of what would happen (as far as I can predict) if you adopt that mindset, but clearly, I was very far from objective. :p But shallow, meaningless sex without a chance for a longer term relationship, without emotional depth, without connection, while always wanting hotter girls and never being satisfied with your current girl... that's actually an ideal lifestyle for plenty of men. It sums up Barn…
/r/seduction02/08/13 06:09 PM
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Much of this advice is good and doesn't even have to be called 'asshole game'. Things like teasing and being dominant and taking the lead are recommended by every dating coach out there. Being capable of expressing your opinion and doing what you want without letting her opinion of you hold you back is like 'non-neediness/vulnerability 101'. But... he straight up called a girl a dog and told her to come over to him, she willingly obliged and he wrapped his arms around her and managed to pull off…
/r/seduction02/08/13 05:51 PM
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This mindset would do a few things: It completely objectifies the girl you're with (excuse me, the girl you're fucking, because what else would you do with her?) based on her looks. The only reason she is an 'appetizer' to another girl is because of her inferior looks. The fact that the experience with this girl is temporary and that nothing lasting will come of it is built into the mindset. You will avoid any attachment on an emotional level and you will not develop a deep and valuable connecti…
/r/seduction02/08/13 01:15 PM
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Don't get the number of a girl you're not interested in. Going for a number for practice? "Give me your number." Say it 20 times. Now you've practiced.
/r/seduction02/08/13 09:54 AM
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You realize that your 'archetypes' are nothing but descriptions of different behaviors or even just clothes? A single girl could do all of these three things in the same day. This is like teling girls: "There are three archetypes of men. There is the man going to the ATM to take out his money. Or is he begging for girls to notice his wealth? How does one get the man-who-walks-to-ATM-machine archetype? Then there is the gym guy. You can recognize him by his sports clothes and bag that he takes to…
/r/seduction02/08/13 09:29 AM
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There are some unhelpful beliefs causing that jealousy. Finish this sentence: When my friends pull and I don't, then that means ... What comes to mind? What does that mean? And I don't mean the desirable answer, but the real answer.
/r/seduction01/08/13 09:54 PM
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What drives me when I 'go deep' in a conversation with a girl is curiosity. I try to form a complete picture of who she is in my mind. What kind of person is she? What is her history? What motivates her in life? What is she thinking and feeling? What we tend to do automatically is that we form a rough picture in our minds based on assumptions and stereotypes, and then we mistake that rough made-up picture for who she actually is. Throw those assumptions out the window, accept that you don't know…
/r/seduction01/08/13 09:41 PM
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Yep. Not breaking eye contact at all is weird. You are supposed to glance away occasionally. You glance away more often when talking than when listening. And yeah, if you just said: "God you look hot in that dress" or "You're so hot, I just want to take you right now"... then don't look away...
/r/seduction01/08/13 11:40 AM
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Ask her.
/r/seduction14/07/13 11:37 AM
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I have a female friend whose facial expressions and mannerisms often look bitchy. Being my overly direct and honest self, I actually told her that she looked like a bitch (in a non-offensive way). She told me that she is told that more often and that she can't help it, but that she's actually a nice person. As I got to know her better, she turned out to be an incredibly sweet, big-hearted girl. :)
/r/seduction07/07/13 08:12 AM
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The reason you're not having sex is because you feel shame and fear, and now you are asking for more reading material before you can go and have sex. It's classic avoidance! Not that I disapprove of your willingness to learn, but be aware of this. This is mostly an emotional issue - sexual shame and anxiety - and unfortunately this is mostly solved by doing precisely what you are avoiding. Also be aware that sex, especially during a one-night stand, is never perfect, and often a little awkward. …
/r/seduction06/07/13 08:56 PM
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You never say: "Hey, wanna have some phone sex?" As a reader of this sub-reddit you should already be aware that female sexuality is to a large degree psychological. Their desire and arousal is a result not just of seeing a hot guy, but of anticipation, imagination, the forbidden, (lack of) control, being teased, being desired, and so on. Furthermore, women, moreso than men, can almost (or even actually) feel what they imagine. They can feel what you describe to them. What does that have to do w…
/r/seduction30/06/13 05:38 AM
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Being terrible at closing/escalating could very well be a result of sexual shame/anxiety. (I used to have it so bad that I didn't kiss a girl until I was 20 years old, didn't have my first sexual relationship until a few years later. But I fixed it and have practically no sexual shame and anxiety left and can close without any problem. :)) Mark Manson made the sexual confidence course for this problem. You can find it on postmasculine.com under the Courses link.
/r/seduction29/06/13 07:17 AM
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I think being muscular is attractive to women, unless you become like a bodybuilder, in which case you'll polarize responses... A small percentage will be (very?) attracted, while most women won't be that into you. But if you ACT like a tough guy and show off your body and walk like you think you're the shit, then down-to-earth girls are going to be turned off. Then I think you attract the wrong kind of girls.
/r/seduction14/06/13 03:58 PM
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"im not awkward, no anxiety, perfectly normal, well adjusted, physically healthy, grew up interacting with women so im very comfortable." You do have anxiety. Plenty of it. In fact, you have so much sexual anxiety that you managed to avoid sex until you were 23 years old. So start by accepting that. The next step is to work through your anxiety. The problem is that you have to do exactly what you fear to do. You have to confront your fear of getting intimate, even though you don't know what to d…
/r/seduction10/06/13 11:36 AM
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Pretty much everybody here is way overthinking things. A hot girl doesn't think "I'm a hot girl. I'm a hot girl. I'm a hot girl." all the time. Some highly attractive girls aren't even aware that they're attractive. Some are, but don't care. Being hot is not an active thing. We attribute all these thoughts to hot girls because all WE see is "hotness". They don't see that. They are just experiencing life, just like we are. Some with attractive self-images, others without. The fact that you're dev…
/r/seduction08/06/13 05:14 PM
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"I mean, YES, I want to have sex. But I don't want to cheat someone into my bed. I want to have sex and that's it. Nothing more." Do you believe it's impossible to just have sex, without cheating someone into your bed? Do you believe you have to pretend to want more than sex if you want just sex, because otherwise you can't get sex? Or do you mean that you want sex with her, without conversation, regardless of what kind of person she is, regardless of what kind of interaction you have with her, …
/r/seduction06/06/13 02:29 AM
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You are interested in women, dating and sex right? So are women. They LOVE talking about those subjects. I do it ALL the time. There. A shared interest. Plus, if you show that you can talk about sex calmly and you know what's up when it comes to women and dating, you instantly become more attractive.
/r/seduction04/06/13 06:09 AM
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OP, browse http://postmasculine.com for a much healthier perspective on dating. People have been having sex for as long as humans have existed. Attraction and sex are natural things that happen all the time, automatically. No theory or techniques required. Of course, many of us aren't having the kind of success with women that we want. But I think this is most often caused by anxieties and other emotional issues, that are preventing us from acting the way we want to act, or the way we know we sh…
/r/seduction20/05/13 12:08 PM
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If you define shit tests very broadly, as any way a woman might question you or your integrity (which even honest, sincere women can do, obviously), or as any form of fun teasing, then I'll agree. But if you mean a shit test, as in something a woman consciously says to throw you off, then you're just selecting for manipulative women. If a girl teases in a fun, positive way, I like it. If a girl voices honest concerns or doubts, then I appreciate her honesty and will respect her and answer honest…
/r/seduction17/05/13 10:34 AM
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What do you mean with tantric state? What happened exactly?
/r/seduction17/05/13 09:56 AM
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Do you guys realize that pretending you're not interested -- or adjusting your level of shown interest based on how attracted you think that would make her -- is manipulative? It is. It's playing games. It's fake. And it builds on the hidden assumption that if you were just your unfiltered, real self, she wouldn't be attracted to you. If you were good as you are already, then you could express whatever emotion you feel to her, and it wouldn't matter, right? (All PUA techniques and routines and m…
/r/seduction14/05/13 08:36 AM
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The reason all you see is shallow idiocy is because you select for shallow idiocy, because the only women you attract are those who either can't tell you're being fake and manipulative, or who are somehow attracted to fakeness and manipulativeness. Read this series of articles. They are extremely relevant (The second one is especially relevant to you, but I included the other two anyway): http://postmasculine.com/crazy-bitch http://postmasculine.com/amazing-women http://postmasculine.com/one-tra…
/r/seduction29/04/13 12:55 PM
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I think the most attractive to most women is a combination of the following: Being a genuinely nice guy, respectful, but with clear boundaries in place, with an opinion, with confidence, being able to lead and make her feel safe. Being sweet, caring, empathic, giving the bestest hugs! Being sexually assertive, shamelessly sexual, being very good in bed. Basically, being a bad boy in the bedroom, who can give her more pleasure than she ever had. Being nice in the living room and a dirty pervert i…
/r/seduction18/04/13 07:24 PM
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Having interesting conversations, showing interest and listening well do NOT lead to the friendzone... Not showing your sexuality, hiding your desire for her and not escalating are what lead to the friendzone.
/r/seduction10/04/13 05:41 AM
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Some of the advice in here is awful. When a woman is talking openly about her sexual preferences or experiences, she is NOT shit testing you and you should almost never tease her about it or make it into a joke. You don't want to make her sexuality into a joke! She is... gasp... sharing her sexual preferences or experiences with you. She is a sexual being. She's just being herself. You (OP) respond to her by being uncomfortable with that aspect of her. The problem here is that you are uncomforta…
/r/seduction26/03/13 08:27 AM
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Have to agree with Mark here. I used to be a pretty succesful online poker player (made a few hundred thousand back in the day), and I was socially anxious as hell and couldn't pick up a girl to save my life. Noticing people's betting patterns on a screen is very far removed from walking up to a girl, compimenting her and going for a kiss in a bar. Besides, even though some knowledge of psychology and people skills helps in poker, raw reasoning ability, good memory and pattern recognition are en…
/r/seduction07/11/12 08:36 PM
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"What is your number?"
/r/seduction28/09/12 03:07 AM
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There's www.pickuptube.net I was a member there for a while. The quality of the videos is not that good but has dozens of videos of PUAs approaching and some of them are awesome. (most are not free)
/r/seduction28/09/12 03:06 AM
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"She asks if I want to have sex with her. I'm kind of at a loss for words, but invite her to sit in a car to listen to some music." Now, first of all, the truth is that you DO want to have sex with her. Own it. It's not bad, it's perfectly natural. No need to be at a loss for words. You want to fuck this girl? Awesome. Why would you want to date a girl you don't want to fuck? It's okay you want to fuck her. She knows you want to fuck her. It's all good. What she doesn't want is you not respectin…
/r/seduction12/08/12 05:29 AM
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Actually, vulnerability has been written about before in a pickup related article. http://postmasculine.com/power-in-vulnerability
/r/seduction29/07/12 05:22 PM
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I think the reason girls are creeped out by PUA techniques is because what a girl wants and what a girl feels when she's attracted to a guy is a genuine emotional connection. It is not a far-fetched idea at all that an emotional connection is not "genuine" when it is the result of scripted and planned executions of techniques. Imagine that you've met a very attractive girl with a great personality. She sends you a very sweet text message. You are happy and excited. You feel connected to her. The…
/r/seduction29/07/12 04:54 PM
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Lately when going out I've been telling every girl I've been dancing or talking with for a while (i.e. mutual interest is established) similar things. This is something that you gradually escalate, but telling a girl I met that night that I want to have sex with her is fairly normal to me now. If she's interested in you, she will not reject you over this. Some girls pretend to be shocked, but it's all good. Often, girls get turned on. The most common answer I get is a promise that if I call them…
/r/seduction08/07/12 12:29 AM
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In my experience this can mean that the friend is interested.. But it could also be that the girl approaching you and asking you to dance with her friend is doing it on her own accord and actually embarasses her friend. Just see what happens and have fun! You can go direct because interest is already shown by her, albeit indirectly. If you've already been dancing with a girl and THEN she tells you to dance with her friend, then that's not a good sign however. :P I had that happen last night. :(
/r/seduction08/07/12 12:20 AM
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Succes jongens. I can't come and play because I'm in South America at the moment, but have my upvote. :)
/r/seduction05/07/12 06:32 PM
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Yep. If you are an actual nice guy, a good man, who is respectful, kind, caring, a good listener, while being assertive, confident, knowing what you want and not being afraid to go after it.. Girls will love you for it. They will be grateful to have you in their lives. Anyone who thinks women don't like to be treated well is delusional. But the classic "Nice Guys" are not good men. They are scared shitless to show who they really are and what they really want. They hide their real intentions. Th…
/r/seduction23/06/12 05:37 PM
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All the quotes make the importance of knowing yourself very clear. But how do we get there? Let's say I am a young man who yearns to know himself, what is the first thing I ACTUALLY do right now?
/r/seduction15/06/12 04:34 AM
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