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Conversationivecaughtawildgigolo/r/seduction24/08/24 12:15 AM
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Field Reportivecaughtawildgigolo/r/seduction01/06/24 02:15 AM
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Field Reportivecaughtawildgigolo/r/seduction19/08/24 02:46 AM
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Debateivecaughtawildgigolo/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:26 AM
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Field Reportivecaughtawildgigolo/r/seduction28/06/24 07:25 PM
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Field Report :orly:ivecaughtawildgigolo/r/seduction09/07/24 10:11 PM
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Fundamentals ivecaughtawildgigolo/r/seduction31/07/24 11:35 PM
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Field Reportivecaughtawildgigolo/r/seduction30/07/24 11:07 PM
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Conversationivecaughtawildgigolo/r/seduction10/08/24 08:08 PM
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Field Reportivecaughtawildgigolo/r/seduction02/07/24 02:40 AM
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Lifestyleivecaughtawildgigolo/r/seduction06/09/24 04:20 AM
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Field Reportivecaughtawildgigolo/r/seduction26/06/24 01:29 AM
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Inner Game ivecaughtawildgigolo/r/seduction13/06/24 01:12 PM
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Logisticsivecaughtawildgigolo/r/seduction11/08/24 12:18 AM
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How do I stop hating women for having such high standards? I can’t stop hating them and won’t stop hating them until I get my revenge by going thru a fuckboy phase and pumping and dumping hundreds of them. That’s what they get for trying to bat of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:39 PM
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Dude got lucky lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:38 AM
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Why so harsh tho? Be honest, is it because you think they’re needy and no other girl wants them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:31 PM
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🧢. You prob have just never been approached by a good looking and charming dude
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:36 PM
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I get that but would you be opposed to a attractive cool guy approaching you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:29 PM
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Yeah and that “picture” could be a catfish
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:49 PM
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Yeah I get that but I’m not talking ab men who are unattractive. I’m talking ab men who cross the looks threshold getting rejected/ghosted after cold approaching a girl even tho that girl prob would’ve dated him if he was in her friend group or on a dating app. Cause we see ugly guy cute girl couples all the time because women are willing to do those guys. But ONLY if they are in the same friend group. Pretty shallow imo if the ugly who cold approached her has good social skills and they connect…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:47 PM
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Funny how women will see cold approaching as “weird” or “low status” but then will do OLD💀
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:23 PM
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Yeah. As a cold approacher myself, unfortunately I’ve realized that most women view cold approach as inherently needy/low status unless you can make the cold approach seem spontaneous and unplanned which is not easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:19 PM
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Yep. I regret everyday not looksmaxxing earlier in life. Would’ve lived a COMPLETELY different life
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:47 PM
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Wym
/r/seduction13/09/24 07:40 PM
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I feel like that’s cope. In reality late bloomer is someone who’s an incel or KHHV past the age of 19 I’m 23 ab to be 24 and I’m tryna make up for lost time now and bang hot college girls. I don’t have much time left but I feel like if I could get in shape soon, I’ll be able to date hot college girls until my late 20s hopefully
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:41 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:11 PM
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Hey bro If that worked for you then great. I feel like it hasn’t worked in my exp but ur logic makes some sense. Just hard to know initially whether she’s just uninterested or she is interested but is putting you thru that filter ur referring to
/r/seduction12/09/24 12:27 PM
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Not easy if ur sub7
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:57 AM
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Yup the only reason why a post like this needs to be made is because most guys do this despite already knowing it but most women don’t find most men attractive so most men end up having to put on a clown suit to entertain the average woman who isn’t that attracted to them.
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:45 AM
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“No bro you can convert a low interest woman into a high interest woman bro! Just play the long game dude”
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:43 AM
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This is hard cope. Relationships like this where the woman settles for the nice guy who isn’t really her type almost never turn out being good.
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:41 AM
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Nah man. Depending on where he lives, college campus has the best ratios and volume of young attractive women by far.
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:32 AM
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Relax bro
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:30 AM
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Yup. This seems like the only smart decision of you are a late bloomer. Only thing that sucks is that even 18-20yo chicks that are attractive will still have had 1-2 boyfriends. And that’s the best case scenario lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:12 AM
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Ur a womon so u wouldn’t understand. It’s diff for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:30 PM
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Cope. If you didn’t date in HS/MS that’s gonna put you at a massive disadvantage. And could redeem yourself in college but it’s gonna be rough
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:56 PM
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Yea I kinda agree. I’d say 90% of women get to date in middle school and high school. While 50-60% of men get to date in HS/MS
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:29 PM
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This is kinda unrelated to what you said but I hate when normies will see a guy who hit the gym getting better results with women and will claim it’s the confidence that he got from the muscles that got him better results not the muscles themselves which I think is BS. Confidence comes from accomplishments/positive results. The only reasons someone who’s in shape is gonna more confidence most of the time is because his results/feedback he’s getting from his improved looks i.e more choosing signa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:04 PM
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Yeah but you can only detach if you are easily able to get women. You can’t detach if you have to bust your ass just to get a 4/10 to get on a date with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:37 PM
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It’s easy to not be afraid of being alone when you can easily pull tho, based of looks/extensive social circle/connections For most guys in here, this woo woo abundance mindset shit doesn’t really resonate and just sounds like a meme when it takes us hundreds of failed approaches, fake numbers, constant ghosting just to get a date with a decent chick How tf is someone suppose to have an abundance mindset in that circumstance? Like for example I have a sales job and I naturally have an abundance …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:33 PM
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Yeah bro it’s funny because my uncle was like that and always asked me if I was getting laid everytime I saw him and would force me to approach girls. But unfortunately Id only see him twice a year. My actual father isn’t beta by any means but at the same time he wasn’t the player that my uncle was so he didn’t really teach me those things growing up and it kinda set me up for failure. I didn’t lose my v card til 23 smh. And now I feel like a lot of my family see me as a loser because I’m the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:04 AM
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At least you experienced heartbreak. I’ve never even been in an LTR before bro
/r/seduction09/09/24 01:01 AM
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Ur right but maybe I need to learn the hard way man.
/r/seduction09/09/24 12:40 AM
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Then what’s the right mindset? Because it’s hard for me to have an abundance mindset when I can barely hold onto 1 chick unless she’s ugly
/r/seduction09/09/24 12:21 AM
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Dude Id kill to have a 3 month fling so I can break out of late bloomer purgatory. It’s so brutal. Most chicks ghost me after sex because I couldn’t stay hard/had weak erection and on top of that I live with my parents and I’m 23yo and about to be 24 soon. I don’t have much time. I can’t be a late bloomer any longer or things will continue to get worse. I just need one girl who can give me consistent sex for a few months so I can break out of late bloomer purgatory
/r/seduction08/09/24 11:47 PM
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Dude I’m in the same predicament, but I’m 23yo and fighting like hell to get relationship experience before I turn 25. The late bloomer tax is real and it’s brutal af.
/r/seduction08/09/24 11:42 PM
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Yeah but that’s the exception. Generally most men already know and accept the fact that they have to improve themselves to get a woman. But on the other hand the idea of men having preferences that aren’t aligned with the feminist ideal is bashed by mainstream society
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:15 PM
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Yeah the whole bangmaid thing is disingenuous. That’s like hearing a woman’s preferences and then saying “Oh you just want a walking credit card thats also a part time bodyguard!”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:59 PM
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They are too much to deal with because they’re standards are too high and insurmountable for 99% of men to surpass
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:54 AM
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<image> “I don’t want jesse Pinkman”🧢
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:51 AM
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I don’t ever want to be in a relationship with a woman who felt like she settled for me. I’d rather kms
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:48 AM
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Are you saying this from experience? Are you a line dancer?
/r/seduction06/09/24 10:23 PM
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Yeah social skills matters but the only issue with the post is that improving social skills will only bring you marginal gains unless you are autistic to start with and can’t hold a convo and are super boring But outside of that learning extra things like “learning how to be a good storyteller” or “learning how to perfect your comedic timing and jokes” isn’t going to yield as much ROI as improving looks depending on what you’re starting point is and you have a decent genetic base. On top of that…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:26 PM
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Ur right but the women there drive me crazy. 19yo pawgs in short shorts. Almost seems worth learning some line dancing for. Assuming it won’t take much time investment to learn line dancing to a decent level but idk
/r/seduction06/09/24 04:43 AM
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Yeah Ik but they’re hard to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:26 AM
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It does if you have good face and good height to begin with.
/r/seduction27/08/24 10:52 AM
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No This is major cope. If a woman finds you attractive she’ll make it very easy for you to talk to her and all of sudden you feel like you have “game” and social skills when in reality she just let you be smooth and facilitated a good convo because u were her type If you talked to a woman who wasn’t really attracted to you and was just giving you one word answers and vague responses then all of sudden your game is back down to zero again and you think “damn bro I gotta work on my game” when in r…
/r/seduction27/08/24 10:45 AM
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This is major cope. If a woman finds you attractive she’ll make it very easy for you to talk to her and all of sudden you feel like you have “game” and social skills when in reality she just let you be smooth and facilitated a good convo. If you talked to a woman who wasn’t really attracted to you and was just giving you one word answers and vague responses then all of sudden your game is back down to zero again and you think “damn bro I gotta work on my game” when in reality you need to priorit…
/r/seduction27/08/24 10:39 AM
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Dude I’m saying this shit because majority of my college exp was like this. Most chicks are super lib and very sensitive and like I said before if you were a guy like me that was socialized thru edgy male friend groups then connecting with women is gonna be way harder. I noticed that I had to try really hard to be diplomatic and more PC while simultaneously not tryna be too PC. Which was a huge challenge tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:36 AM
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Lies lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:42 AM
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Nah man. I grew up being in all male friend groups and having an edgy/offensive sense of humor. I’m not the type of guy that’s built to have female friends lol. I couldn’t stand being in a group of women where I have to try to filter myself heavily. If I come across those kind of women then I’d love to be their friend but they just don’t exist. Most women are super liberal and sensitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:31 AM
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Yeah but that’s not what I’m talking ab. I’m talking ab you look at her first, then she looks at you and looks away immediately
/r/seduction25/08/24 10:02 PM
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Happens to me at both tbh. But at the clubs/bars I wouldn’t know since I typically walk in and start spam approaching girls.
/r/seduction25/08/24 10:00 PM
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Interesting. Usually the ladder happens to me but I’m gonna assume it’s cuz most women are shy and not cause I’m ugly😂. Have to keep sippin diet cope for now
/r/seduction25/08/24 09:57 PM
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And you said you were the same age? 23?
/r/seduction24/08/24 04:40 AM
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I lost my v card to one I cold approached at Barnes and Noble. The other 2 from dating apps
/r/seduction24/08/24 04:39 AM
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Are you in the US?
/r/seduction24/08/24 04:37 AM
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Yes I lost my v card in February and ever since then I’ve been on 8-10 dates and fucked 3 girls (all ugly tbh)
/r/seduction24/08/24 04:36 AM
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You need a hobby bud. I literally just told you that that post was a troll
/r/seduction24/08/24 04:35 AM
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Lol that post no looksmax was a joke. Plus why u lurkin on my shit
/r/seduction24/08/24 04:33 AM
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Not really bro. But at the same time I haven’t really looksmaxxed either. I’m still pretty high body fat and have bad acne scars on my nose and don’t have much muscle. All I’ve been doing is cold approaching and OLD and I’ve seen some results but not good results tbh.
/r/seduction24/08/24 04:31 AM
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Im confused. What are u tryna say? I’m 23yo
/r/seduction24/08/24 04:30 AM
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What ab Cold approach
/r/seduction24/08/24 03:37 AM
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I can’t. I don’t have a cool mixed gender social circle
/r/seduction24/08/24 02:58 AM
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I’ll give you an A+ for this beautifully written essay of pure cope
/r/seduction24/08/24 01:04 AM
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Cope
/r/seduction24/08/24 01:02 AM
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Yeah man It’s brutal. And in this age range it’s when they’re the most vulnerable and almost every guy that talks to them just wants to fuck them which is why they have their guard up and see less likely to give a guy their eyes for a few seconds unless he’s super hot
/r/seduction24/08/24 01:01 AM
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Im def gonna be on the look out for this next time I go out lol
/r/seduction24/08/24 12:48 AM
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It happens to me consistently lol. Only older women will hold eye contact longer and smile at me. But women closer to my age (23) look away immediately most of the time. Brutal.
/r/seduction24/08/24 12:25 AM
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Yup. This is why social circle game is garbage mostly. Very fake and inauthentic most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:29 AM
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Yeah but I’m introverted/low energy and go outside but like I said most girls eventually get bored of me because I have low social battery and run out of good things to say pretty early on
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 11:08 AM
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Translation: Majority women (including most introverted women) find introverted men are boring and would rather be with an extrovert. Harsh truth. I learned this the hard way. Unless you have model tier looks you won’t be able to get away with being a low energy dude as an avg looking guy in 2024. Most women have extremely low attention spans for men they don’t find very attractive which means you can only get and keep them by being high energy, fun, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:50 AM
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If that’s the case then why do women reject a cool respectful not bad looking guy who cold approached them but then date an ugly guy with mid personality who’s in their friend group/social circle? Seems pretty shallow and status driven to me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:54 PM
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Yeah shallow mechanisms
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:42 PM
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Lol It’s funny how women are surprised men are cheating when we have to put in all this work just to get a mid gf. We have to pay hundreds of dollars for premium dating apps subscription and boosts, we have to cold approach hundreds of women, we have to join multiple friend groups, we have ti hit the gym and get a Greek god physique, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:05 PM
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Id rather be a lonely alcoholic that’s loved by women than what am I now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:00 PM
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Yeah but It’s hard not to have that attitude when you aren’t getting anything. A lot of my value and happiness is tied to my dating success as a man unfortunately. And there’s nothing I can do to change that except become a player or get a hot gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:46 PM
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Yeah but it’ll take months/years to get anything dating wise from social circle and even then nothing is guaranteed. And how tf am I suppose to get into these mixed gender friend groups with women my age post college? Plus I’ve never been in a relationship so when other women in the group find out and my reputation gets ruined what am I suppose to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:33 PM
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It’s not that my social skills are bad because I can fake being cool for a while but I honestly don’t like most people and feel like social circle is the 9-5 of dating in the sense that you have to act fake and PC in order to ascend in that environment. That’s why cold approach and OLD appealed to me more because I can just be myself
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:32 PM
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That’s a dumb way to think. Not all of us wanna deal with the possible issues that come from dating women at work and not all of us are in college where you could build a friend group easily
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:26 PM
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Bars aren’t really any better
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:23 PM
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How are they getting women then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:21 PM
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We don’t have a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:19 PM
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Not easy at all. Especially post college. Takes too long to build social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:10 PM
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Why do women suck
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:08 PM
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You’re 100% right but social circle takes forever to see results from and post college social circle is even worse. Plus if ur not a guy with a good IG with solid proof of preselection/being popular in the past on your IG than ur also pretty cooked in social circle I think. I fucking hate women for being that way because I hate doing social circle game most of the time but that’s just the way they are. I have no idea what im gonna do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:04 PM
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Yeah you make a good point. That’s a good way to look at it ig
/r/seduction20/08/24 01:38 AM
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I have above avg looks but I’m 26% body fat lmao. And my game is 5/10
/r/seduction20/08/24 01:10 AM
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Yeah but I run out things to say fast. How tf im gonna entertain/game girls everyday in a social circle/work setting
/r/seduction19/08/24 11:35 PM
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And how do I find one with good ratios? The last one I was in there was 8 guys and 3 girls. 2 of the girls were somewhat attractive. I was prob the 3rd or 4th most attractive guy there. Not ideal
/r/seduction19/08/24 11:26 PM
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Yeah but how tf do I do that if I’m not in college. And how do i do it without being miserable and putting on a fake personality
/r/seduction19/08/24 11:24 PM
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Yeah but what are the chances that this new hot girl in town isn’t gonna ghost me? I still live w my parents, I don’t have a cool friend group, I’ve never been in a relationship before, my personality is mid
/r/seduction19/08/24 11:14 PM
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Has nothing to do with that. Even from a female gaze standpoint these dudes were uglier
/r/seduction19/08/24 11:10 PM
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I never said I was good looking. I’m a 5/10 in looks. But again I’ve seen dudes who were 3-4/10 pulling girls who were 5s and 6s, which I can’t even get as a 5/10 from cold approach. Insane
/r/seduction19/08/24 11:08 PM
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Brutal
/r/seduction19/08/24 11:04 PM
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Dude this mindset sounds good on paper but how tf am I suppose to adopt this mindset when I can’t even get any results
/r/seduction19/08/24 11:02 PM
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Yeah it’s super demoralizing when I see guys who are good looking and/or have great conversations and still get ghosted/flaked. Then ppl will say the solution is social circle but tbh that only seems like a good idea in college. Outside of college it seems like a huge waste of time that could lead to getting friendzoned. Social circle could be fun assuming you connect well with everyone in the group but the chances of me finding a group like that are so low. Most groups I’ve joined I’ve felt meh…
/r/seduction19/08/24 11:01 PM
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The bar is only low assuming that you’re in the same friend group as her and have know her for months. But even then the risk of you getting friendzone by her is still high. That’s why I feel like social circle isn’t really worth it compared to cold approach. Even tho cold approach sucks I feel like I could get a girl in the next 1-3 months
/r/seduction19/08/24 10:58 PM
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Haha ur right ab the get rich quick thing. Cold approach is commission only sales, OLD is entrepreneurship and social circle is 9-5
/r/seduction19/08/24 10:56 PM
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I get what you’re saying but most women aren’t very receptive to me when I approach them despite being respectful and chill.
/r/seduction19/08/24 04:19 AM
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It’s easy for you to say that as a woman. You will always have more options and have men randomly come into your life. Men don’t get that.
/r/seduction19/08/24 04:06 AM
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It’s clearly not only on social media if me and millions of other men are having the same experiences. Plus the whole “keep pushing and have an abundance mindset” thing doesn’t really work if it takes you a hundred approaches just to get a date with a 4/10 that’s gonna end up ghosting you anyway.
/r/seduction19/08/24 03:54 AM
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Starting to think that this dating thing isn’t worth it if every time I talk to a girl I have to walk on a tight rope to win her affection and do the most to close the deal. That’s not enjoyable or sustainable.
/r/seduction19/08/24 03:47 AM
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Over 20 times
/r/seduction19/08/24 03:26 AM
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How can i not take it personally and not be frustrated when this happens over and over again. I approach them, have a good convo, they seem interested and give out their #, then I text and either get no response or get slow faded after a few messages.
/r/seduction19/08/24 03:14 AM
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Yeah I’m using this situation because this same situation has happened many times
/r/seduction19/08/24 03:08 AM
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Im not below avg.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:29 AM
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Yeah because there isn’t really nuance. Female attraction is close to binary since they find a small % of men attractive. Plus the submission argument is ridiculous. Almost every woman is submissive for men they like. Doesn’t matter how liberal/feminist they are. Plus it’s funny how we say submission is a 1950s thing but when women say they want a man who’s gonna provide for them, men don’t say “Oh it’s not the 1950s anymore” we just accept it because we know we actually have to bring something …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:32 AM
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Bullshit. If that’s the case then why are women cheating on their nice bf with their toxic exes all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:27 AM
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Wrong. The hot men will get more love and submission than the safe guy will ever get
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:25 AM
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Not mention that Billy has to put in 10x the work to get less benefits than Chad. Billy will never get the same submission and love that Chad got.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:21 AM
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Get ur passport nigga. Unfortunately below avg men and even avg men will never get that “Chad” treatment unless you A. Dumpster dive, B. Marry ur HS sweetheart (but even this doesn’t really work anymore), C. Get a ridiculous amount of status
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:12 AM
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Do you think 5’11 with a 7/10 face, 250k-500k/y and a cool hobby is good enough to get a Stacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:51 AM
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It is a nightmare man. Good that you dodged the late bloomer bullet
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:41 AM
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I just lost my v card a few months ago and I’m 23. Still haven’t been in a relationship. Do you think I have good potential? I have a good bone structure and decent height but I am overweight. Also I’m just neurodivergent and always had a hard time fitting in and being “normal” I’m pretty decently socialized from having male friends in HS but at the same time those friends were edgelords and incels. I never had experience being a in a “normal” mixed gender friend group and didn’t have really any…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:40 AM
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Why do you say that? Do u have experience I. That environment?
/r/seduction11/08/24 02:14 AM
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I’m not even talking ab those type of swim classes. I’m talking ab swim classes for ppl that already know how to swim and want a workout or want to compete/learn advanced moves/techniques
/r/seduction11/08/24 02:05 AM
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Damn bruh chill🤣🤣
/r/seduction11/08/24 01:45 AM
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I have average looks. But I’m neurodivergent
/r/seduction10/08/24 09:44 PM
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You know nothing ab my situation
/r/seduction10/08/24 09:24 PM
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What do you mean by value? Cause I feel like the only really powerful forms of value that will really make everyone interested in you is good looks and clout and maybe drugs or some other type of cool experience.
/r/seduction10/08/24 08:42 PM
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Not tryna hate but a 9/10 is supermodel caliber. She was prob 6-7 at best
/r/seduction07/08/24 02:40 AM
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Lol Easy for you to say that. Any decently attractive girl is going to have insurmountable standards past a certain age so there's no point. If you were a man and saw that her exes/past partners were rich dudes, 6ft+ Chads w huge dicks, and psychopaths, would you bother trying to surpass what those other guys gave them? Cause at that point is pretty much impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:11 PM
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How are you suppose to keep them entertained when they’re standards for what is entertaining is sky high because they’ve been with so many other guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:00 AM
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It’s not 10%. Majority of attractive women dress provocatively. And because majority of them do that, men have no choice but to deal with it or try to fix it if they want to be with an attractive woman. But ppl like the OP will say dumb shit like “Oh just find a woman that doesn’t dress provocatively bro” If it was that easy then men would’ve already done it lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:33 AM
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That dude has serious issues. He DMed me saying kill all women
/r/seduction06/08/24 03:28 AM
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Yeah cause they were dating Chads and Chadlites, what did they expec loll
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:35 AM
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Bro these blue pill dudes will never get it because they’re prob dating plain janes/whales or dated before social media/dating apps were prominent. Any dude dating attractive zoomer chicks know that they’re hypergamous and will jump ship when they experience any negative feelings about you unless you’re a Chad or have high status
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:30 PM
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That study was conducted by woke scientists. Opinion discarded. Most men couldnt cheat even if they wanted to
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:57 PM
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Social circle is worse competition wise cause ur girl might’ve I had an Eskimo bro in the same group or deep down wants to get with the “alpha” of the group even tho she settled for you. With OLD the competition is less intimidating and threatening since women know that most of the dudes on there would just pump and dump them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:47 PM
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Damn wtf💀. So You’d divorce him if you caught him watching F&F? Also lemme guess, anyone that wasn’t a jock or player was a loser to u in HS
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:39 AM
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Would you ghost a guy or lose attraction for him if you found out that he was a loser growing up
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:31 AM
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Not everyone is perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:24 AM
2

So you do mind self improvement..
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:22 AM
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Too bad wamen are turned off by men that had to “self improve” to get women. They want the guy who got everything naturally. They want the dude who was a Chad his whole life and was kissing girls at recess and was popular. Women aren’t attracted to the nerd glowup like they are in the movies/TV
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:52 PM
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I mean sure women are gonna more attracted to the dude who was naturally in shape, naturally Good w women his whole life, etc but what does that have to do with me? Because that’s not an option for me lol. I already plan on lying or hiding ab my loser past but not sure how that’s gonna work
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:56 PM
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The former obviously but women won’t know whether it’s “natural” to me or not unless I tell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:02 PM
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Everyone else is the problem tho. Women need to do better and stop being so sensitive. They need to laugh at my racist jokes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:43 AM
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You just proved that you’re too sensitive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:41 AM
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Sure it’s a good supplemental strategy dating wise that could benefit other parts of life but it takes WAY too much time and effort. I only see social circle being worth it if it’s people I genuinely with fuck with and we have common interest/goals. But the whole thing that gurus preach of being fake and building a social circle is wack af.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:53 AM
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Stop
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:37 AM
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Haha funny
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:32 AM
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Well I’m not that retarded to bring up RP shit around women but for example maybe at a house party I’ll open with “You have a nice ass nose” just because I felt like it. Some would say that that’s weird and I’m scaring the hoes with that and others would say it’s totally fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:01 PM
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Lol this is one of the only high IQ responses in this post lol You’re right but I’m just saying that it takes 6-12m to get the point where you have a bunch of female friends introducing you to their female friends which is what people say the main advantage social circle has as a dating strategy You’re totally right on this but I just struggle to filter myself just enough to be palatable but also not too much to the point where I’m awkward and quiet and I find that I can never strike a balance I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:45 PM
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Im currently going thru something similar rn in this church youth group I joined. All of the attractive and decently attractive girls are going for the most attractive guys while the other guys are just invisible NPCs that either get nothing or have to get with the fat girl in the group (no offense to her she’s really nice tho)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:27 PM
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Define “socialized” plz
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:03 PM
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What idiots are telling me i don’t need to work on looks? Almost all of this sub lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:01 PM
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I disagree. Chads and baddies will be more interesting in talking to me after I increase my looks. Social circle will be easy once I fix my looks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:58 PM
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I need to become attractive and everything will fall into place. And I say this because a lot of times when I’ve gotten introduced to women in social circles, I feel invisible and feel like the women (and men) in the social circle don’t really value my opinion/perspective, laugh at my jokes, or really care ab much I have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:02 PM
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Bruh what
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:55 PM
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Exactly lol. Only attractive men can get away with being more non PC but the rest of us kinda have the play the “PC but not too PC, nonchalant libtard cool guy who’s funny”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:52 PM
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Im about to do that too lmfao. I’m not a virgin but I did lose it super late and still have never been in a relationship before which will turn off pretty much every woman so I have to fake my personality
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:49 PM
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No it’s just that social circle is low ROI
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:47 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:41 PM
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You kinda need to be if u wanna be friends with zoomer college chicks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:27 PM
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Exactly lmfao. As a guy you need to have the nerdy sperg friends that are reliable and trustworthy, and you also need attractive/charismatic/cool friends that can get you into parties, introduce you to certain people, run two man, etc etc but those friends usually aren’t that reliable or trustworthy and prob won’t be your friend in the next few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:24 PM
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Yeah, with girls who had multiple Eskimo bros in the group or girls that really want the top guys in the group but ended up settling
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:19 PM
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Im not that socially clueless. It’s more about the fact that being “extroverted” and “high energy” is exhausting and taxing which is what you have to become if ur not a super attractive dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:17 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:59 PM
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Yeah but i don’t have much time so I have to think short term. I’d never build a social circle to meet women lol. I’d build one naturally to hang out with people and build connections but meeting women thru it will take too long and it’ll be limited options. Especially outside of college. I need a gf within the next few months. Not years
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:14 PM
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Well I’m not in college so I kinda gave up on trying to find mixed gender friend groups with younger women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:50 PM
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Again, you don’t know anything. I’ve made the effort before but when I have I was seen as the lame guy in the group and I was invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:48 PM
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You know nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:47 PM
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I can be palatable, the problem is the sustainability and longevity of that strategy. I Can fake being a normie pretty well in the short term but over a long period of time I either need to release my unhinged personality or remain stifled and filtered and then become the “boring guy” and neither of those ever lead to good outcomes. I Can never win it seems like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:44 PM
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I think looks would solve it because when you look good, women make it way easier for you to talk to them and even if you have sub par social skills it will be good enough. I’ve switched between being handsome and avg and ugly and can tell you that when I’m average/ugly, even trying to be platonic friends with decently attractive girls feels like an uphill battle
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:42 PM
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Why is that hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:38 PM
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Clueless lol. Having basic social skills and “talking to people like humans” isn’t good enough if u are average looking. If ur average looking than you need to be high energy funny and entertaining if you want to be able to do well in a social circle and get introduced to more people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:37 PM
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I have friends. Just not female friends. Making female friends is a lot harder since you have to filter what you say even more. Which makes it hard for me to be charming around groups of women that I have “win over” over a long period of time in order to get introduced to their friends. Too exhausting and too much work. Would rather do OLD or cold approach tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:20 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:16 PM
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Yup. And people have said this before but when women play matchmaker for their single friends they typically pick the most attractive guy in the group who doesn’t have an issue getting women. Fuck “go outside”, “just build a social circle”, “just cold approach” , the main thing that is required for all of these to succeed is good looks tbh. That should be the main priority and then once you build that everything will fall into place
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:15 PM
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Because being a simpy normie liberal isn’t required to succeed in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:11 PM
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Yeah. That’s why college and HS are really your only chance to build a good mixed gender social circle and if u don’t take advantage of that then ur fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:04 PM
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Yeah jestermaxxing and forcing a fake neurotypical personality for 8 months just to get put on with one of her fat friends is def better than getting a decently attractive gf after 3 months of spam approaching
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:15 AM
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Wait can you explain why a jacked dude showing his gf pics of when he was out of shape is a bad idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:14 AM
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Too exhausting, too much effort, and too much time invested for little return Better off cold approaching or doing OLD tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:11 AM
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Yeah but social circle takes way too long and it also sucks having to force conversation and put on fake personality to ascend in that circle and you’re not even guaranteed anything. Better off cold approaching or online dating
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:09 AM
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Ik its such a waste of time lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:59 AM
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Exactly lmfaooo. The rich get richer
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:47 AM
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No no no. In a social circle it’s even harder than cold approach because you need to be high energy and funny to dominate and really succeed with women in that circle. If you are the awkward quiet guy in the circle who’s at the bottom your not gonna get shit that way either so might as well spam approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:42 AM
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I disagree for the most part because a lot of dudes I knew in college didn’t have any game and made a lot of “game” mistakes but still did well with women because they were Chads or were in a fraternity. When you’re her ideal type, there’s so much margin for error. Even more if you have status (I.e being popular at school, athlete, etc)
/r/seduction31/07/24 05:12 PM
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Yeah but most ppl my age have already been in a relationship or 2 and have had a good amount of sexual experience
/r/seduction31/07/24 12:11 PM
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No. No there are not really any woman that’d be willing to teach me at my age. I mean somewhere out there there’s prob a hot cougar who’d be willing to show me the ropes but the chances of finding that are slim to none. And women my age? Forget it. In my experience my best chance of breaking out this shit is finding an inexperienced 18-19yo. But the thing is that the only 18-19yos that are inexperienced are the unattractive ones most likely and even those type of women are hard to find.
/r/seduction31/07/24 02:02 AM
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Another guy here said Cialis too. Is Cialis that much better than viagra? Because I tried blue chew viagra and that shit didn’t work. Just gave me cramps.
/r/seduction31/07/24 01:23 AM
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Well to address the first part, I feel like most girls would get turned off by guy that doesn’t know what he’s doing and doesn’t “just get it” And for the ED part, I used to watch a lot of porn so I think that was the problem
/r/seduction30/07/24 11:23 PM
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Like I said in another comment here, there’s no point in competing on hard mode if your not going to get hard mode benefits. In America if ur below 6ft and have an avg looking face (and ethnic), you could make 6 figs+, learn how to be funny, build a great body and the results you get will still be subpar.
/r/seduction27/07/24 12:29 PM
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Yeah but in this case you don’t get better benefits for playing on hard mode which is why men don’t think the juice is worth the squeeze. Short (esp ethnic) men in America can make 6 figs+, build a great body, learn game, etc and still not get a fraction of the lays or treatment that they’d get in other countries. The ROI is extremely low. I don’t blame them for leaving tbh.
/r/seduction27/07/24 12:25 PM
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I disagree, most women naturally submit to men they genuinely like. It’s just that the bar for being a guy that most “genuinely like” is super high so for some men it’s better to go overseas. Cause in America, the avg man just want reciprocation and a return on investment for all the work he had to put in to become attractive to woman. And it wouldn’t make sense for him to settle for a woman who isn’t submissive They just want a better deal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:06 PM
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Yep. The same goes the other way around too. You can try to act toxic, nonchalant, or act like James Bond but if she doesn’t find you attractive then she won’t give af
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:05 PM
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You’re right but whether an ugly American dude is getting with an attractive American woman or attractive Filipina woman, they’re both gonna be with him for money. Love won’t be genuine anyway so might as well just get with the one who’s gonna be submissive and kind and not give u headaches
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:39 AM
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I’d actually argue that those women are smarter. They’d actually be grateful and happily submit to a guy who’s avg height, avg face, hits the gym, makes 5-10k/m, is charming. Meanwhile attractive american women won’t consider subsmitting unless you are genetic miracle and are over 6ft and have a good face and body AND make 250k+/y Theyre on opposite ends of the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 11:34 PM
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No. A lot of times the woman isn’t the victim in that situation. It’s usually them finessing a simpy beta dude for citizenship
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 11:32 PM
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Y’all call everything misogyny lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 11:28 PM
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I think 99.9% of men can improve their social skills to at least a 5-6/10 no matter who they are. However in order to be able to do really well with women as an avg looking guy you’d need to have 8-10/10 social skills which I would say not really achieveable or sustainable for most people unless they had the genetics or upbringing that made them this super high energy, witty, life of the party type guy. But most of us will never be that dude unless we were willing to commit to putting on the act…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:22 PM
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Yea ugly dudes that are 6’5
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:08 AM
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Wrong because a genuine Chad would have women throwin themselves at him to the point where It’d be easy for him to cheat The men you are talking about are avg-slightly above avg men who chased ass thru their 20s and are now getting hit by the age pill and hoeflation and realize the player life is no longer worth it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:04 PM
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Few women on Reddit are even dating Chads to begin with lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:01 PM
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Not sure. However I’d say that there’s prob more gen z males in this sub than gen z women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:10 PM
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All need to be over 6ft and jacked. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:08 PM
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Not tryna be mean but I highly doubt that most of the women that engage in this sub are the attractive gen z women that we mainly wanna hear from. A lot of the chicks in this sub are gen x or late millennials or are just quirky outliers like you said
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:53 PM
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So out of touch lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:13 PM
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“Yeah bro just put on a clown suit and put on a fake persona to be the life of the party and the high energy fun guy in the group” The jokes write themselves. Even tho you didn’t say this, this is what most Bluepillers are really prescribing since this the only way the average man can pull a girl on his level. Only issue is that it only works if you are naturally extroverted and neurotypical. If not than trying to put on fake persona is gonna feel like hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:04 PM
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This is extremely wishful thinking and your idea of Chad might not be objectively a Chad which is great for you but I’m talking about men who look like male models or close to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:32 PM
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Sorry I don’t understand can you rephrase that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:30 PM
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This has nothing to do with red pill. If most Chads didn’t cheat then you wouldn’t be seeing all of these women complaining about it on social media and IRL. This is just common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:28 PM
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Wrong. Chad’s brain isn’t all of sudden gonna rewire and become sexually disciplined after years and years of being a player. At least most of the time there are obviously exceptions but that doesn’t make the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:27 PM
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No dude don’t listen to these chicks. Majority of women will mirror Chads political views once they get in a relationship. Unless they are a die hard feminist/leftist. But most women aren’t. They just regurgitate whatever BS was taught to them thru college/social media. Same applies to men and you can already see so many examples of this. Many many dudes are male feminists/leftists to stay in the good graces of women. It’s not because they strongly believe in that ideology. It’s because it’s the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:15 PM
1

Jesus fuck. Go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:11 PM
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“Most people don’t cheat” were not talking about most people. We’re talking about Chads. And most Chads DO cheat. Period. Not debatable tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:04 PM
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If u can get a loyal Chad than that cool but in 2024 expecting loyalty from a top 1% dude is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:02 PM
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Lmaoo this is how Ik you are clueless AF. Cold approaching is just as bad as dating apps if not worse. I’ve gotten better results from OLD than I have from daygame/nightgame and that’s despite having good interactions that consisted of banter,rapport building, and seeding the date. And sometimes Id even make out with these chicks if I met them at a bar. But most of the time It’d still result in getting ghosted. Cold approach is dead for low ROI for sub7 men. Also if you’re studies were so true a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:00 PM
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“Men are only slightly more picky on dating apps” No way to verify this 100% this is just based on their word which is most likely female biased “Attractive profiles are shown to people on Hinge” Nope. Me and all my friends rarely get highly attractive women showed to us on the algo. This was the case even when we first downloaded the app. Maybe this argument could be made for Tinder but def not for Hinge lmfao. “A top 10% men isn’t getting 60% of dates or relationship” I never said they were, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:52 PM
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“Men are only slightly more picky on dating apps” No way to verify this 100% this is just based on their word which is most likely female biased “Attractive profiles are shown to people on Hinge” Nope. Me and all my friends rarely get highly attractive women showed to us on the algo. This was the case even when we first downloaded the app. Maybe this argument could be made for Tinder but def not for Hinge lmfao. “A top 10% men isn’t getting 60% of dates or relationship” I never said they were, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:51 PM
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You are just cherry-picking woke studied that fit your narrative. Cause how could your study be accurate if a minority of men are getting a majority of the right swipes on dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:16 PM
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So much cap in the comments. These chicks would pick Dan everyday of the week
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:37 AM
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“Men are slightly more delusional about their attractiveness than women are” The amount of men I’ve seen on street interview videos/podcasts that have rated themselves anything above an 8 can be counted on one hand…. You sound simpy af
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:28 AM
0

Haha typical blue pill garbage
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:25 AM
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Lmao have fun with ur vibrator and cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:25 AM
1

Sorry but you don’t date 9s bruh💀. 9s are super models. You prob date 6-7s at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:22 AM
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Cope
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:14 AM
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Exactly lol I’ve met couples with good looking dudes or even slightly above avg gym bros and the dude often has a personality of a cardboard box. You don’t need to be super witty and high energy to get women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:10 AM
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Exactly. Idk why he put “waiting til mid 30s to start dating as an option” LOL. Are you just gonna become a millionaire and have you first kiss at 36? Like cmon bruh Honestly the best option is either A. Looksmaxx or Surgerymaxx into male model or at least close to it if possible and you have a good genetic base or B. Become a passport bro in your 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:05 AM
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Either you’re underrating yourself to inflate your ego and make it seem like you have crazy rizz Or you’re overrating the waitress
/r/seduction15/07/24 07:51 PM
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Assuming that story is even true, something like that would only happen to Chad. Not the majority of men.
/r/seduction15/07/24 05:13 PM
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nah that was the gheyest shit ive ever seen
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:17 PM
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Nah Looks matter most imo. Most girls that I dealt with ghosted me because of something small I said or because I still live my parents. But if they were with Chad they’d ignore the red flags and keep dating him. But if it’s an avg guy then he’s treading on thin ice from the jump.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:56 PM
1

Unfortunately I think it’s a looks issue bro because we’ve all seen those TikTok’s or know women IRL that talked about dating/hooking up with guy despite having a fuck ton of red flags. As cringy as this phrase is, it’s true: “Women break rules for alphas and make rules for betas”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:54 PM
1

Unfortunately you’re right. The only issue is that if you’re an avg dude, pretty much any woman’s that’s over a 4/10 in looks will ghost over a small mistake. The only woman that will stick around despite mistakes are 2s and 3s. Brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:49 PM
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All of the nerdy loser ones that aren’t obese are still trying to bang Chad. It’s joever
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:21 PM
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Yup and usually the leader is the best looking and the tallest one
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:46 PM
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We need to stop acting like Chasing and simping is a valid way to compensate for lack of looks (for men) All that will lead to is a relationship with a huge power imbalance and a high chance of dead bedroom and infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:21 PM
2

What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:18 PM
1

Bouta rope after watching that vid. Peak cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:32 AM
4

I agree with you and wish more woman had your mindset but unfortunately most of them will think your lame if you don’t have a big “cool” friend group that you are the leader of (or at least one of the top dudes in the circle)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:16 AM
2

Haha at least your honest
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:01 AM
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Bro all of these ppl in the comments are clueless. Your post is spot on. These mfs are just coping
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:00 AM
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I’m assuming you’re 40+ so I wanna ask, before TV shows like “Friends” came out, was having a big friend group mandatory or did women care less?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:52 AM
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Talking to “normal” people is exhausting af. I can fake it well temporarily but to be attractive to women I literally need to be the leader of the group or the “fun high energy” dude in the group and I’m not willing to do that long term. Very taxing. Plus my close friends are nerdy “losers” and women would think less of me if they found out those were my closest friends
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:50 AM
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Why do we need to have a huge friend group to be seen as attractive? That’s lame af
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:52 AM
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They do tho
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:52 AM
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Women are chasing the top 10-20% guys that have Looks, Height, Money, Charisma, and Status. (Or they're chasing men that have at least 2-4 of these things, specifically looks and height being the bread and butter) which gives them the leverage which is why women need to become what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:04 AM
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I don’t get it are you disagreeing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:21 PM
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Wrong. This is laughable. But most women underrate men so I’m not surprised. In pretty much every environment I’ve been in, most of the women in that environment are trying to get with the best looking guy or the charming dude who’s slightly above avg looking while everybody else is a invisible NPC to women. It’s always been this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 04:52 PM
-7

It’s not “unrealistic” standards if the women are going for the top 10-20% of men. Those men have the leverage
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 04:48 PM
2

Women allow men to stick their weener inside of them. Woman gets the final say. No means no right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 04:46 PM
2

Yes men change to become what women want so women need to do the same if they want high caliber dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 04:45 PM
-6

No dummy, “adding value” means being attentive to his needs, helping around the house, being submissive/feminine, staying in shape, loyalty obviously, maybe having your own job if you’re going for an avg dude but no it has nothing to do with hypergamy that is laughable
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 04:44 PM
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Yeah but with #2 im confused and want an honest answer (assuming your a woman), when women like this say “there was only one attractive guy in the room” does that translate to: “There was only one guy in the room that was 6ft+, Muscular, Chiseled Jawline, etc or does it translate to: “There’s only one guy in the room that actually works out and takes care of himself”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:52 AM
4

Yeah this makes sense. I assume at a house party you'd want to specifically seek out the chicks giving you IOIs
/r/seduction10/07/24 02:35 PM
2

Hush birdcel
/r/seduction10/07/24 03:30 AM
1

Damn
/r/seduction10/07/24 03:15 AM
1

Not you again 🤦‍♂️😂
/r/seduction10/07/24 03:07 AM
4

How is it mens fault? We can’t control what women are genuinely attracted to, bringing in enforced monogamy balanced things out. And a lot women did would find satisfaction in these relationships with average men since they didn’t a past frame of reference experience from other men to compare him to. But nowadays the average women will never be happy with the average man and will always resent settling with him since she got to hook up with Chad from Bumble. Which leaves the average man and woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:00 AM
0

Haha typical feminist overrating women and underrating men. Comedy. Bet she thinks someone that looks like Pete Davidson is an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:45 AM
1

Brutal af. I get that women can’t control what they are attracted to but it’s hard not to go crazy when you realize that there’s no way you’ll ever be able to get true love from attractive women because you’re genetics aren’t good enough and there’s nothing you can do to change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:43 AM
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Facts they are just seeking superior genetics. However I would say that it’s not that women’s standards raised drastically since u were in college, it’s just that you became less attractive because of your age because believe or not the “men age like fine wine” concept is a myth for the vast majority of men. That concept only applies to dudes who were Chads in their 20s and have high dimorphism and bone density and took good care of themselves as they aged. But if u were a guy who was a 5 or a 6…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:36 AM
3

Yeah unfortunately you’re right. Most women simply aren’t attracted most men. Sexual revolution/feminism/dating apps/social media just allows women to enact on their biological desires. And tbh you can’t really blame men for reacting the way they are because a lot of this comes down to women picking superior genetics that most men lack. It’s not about “Oh if men took a shower and got a job and treated us right then they’d do well in dating”. That type of statement is ridiculous because majority …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:29 AM
5

Yeah but these dudes that women are dating that “don’t wash themselves”, “don’t have jobs” , “abuse them” , etc are either Chads or dudes who are 2-3 points above them looks wise. I remember almost everytime my female friends had this issue they were dating a guy way out of there league like a Chad or a drug dealer who was 6’5 and had an avg face. Most women aren’t tolerating this stuff from avg looking men lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:27 AM
1

Honestly thinking about AZ, Vegas, or FL. Not sure what college towns are near Vegas but gonna look into that. Thanks for the insight
/r/seduction09/07/24 11:40 PM
1

I’m 23 and have aged decently so I think I could pull this off. But what town do you think I should go to and is the college experience really that much better to the point where it’s worth moving to a college town just to experience it? Or would j be better off just moving to a major city and moving on with my life and trying to date there?
/r/seduction09/07/24 11:34 PM
5

Yeah I’d also have concerns with the reputation issue of social circles/parties. Lately I’ve been getting ED w most chicks I’ve banged and have trouble getting/staying hard which leads to sub par performance. If I brought that to a social circle I’d be cooked lmao
/r/seduction09/07/24 11:30 PM
2

Yeah makes a lot sense. Just wish I could experience that
/r/seduction09/07/24 11:28 PM
4

Damn. I was hoping y’all would say they’re overrated🤣. Kinda bummed out I missed out on those college experiences
/r/seduction09/07/24 11:25 PM
1

“Clubs are more about vibe then looks” LOL
/r/seduction09/07/24 05:53 PM
1

Only Chad can have a new FWB from 2-3 COLD approaches lmao. This comment is ridiculously out of touch from what the average man has to do. A dude whos 5/10 in looks will have to do 50-150 approaches just to get a date or possible ONS with a chick who’s a 4
/r/seduction09/07/24 05:45 PM
1

Hush simp
/r/seduction09/07/24 05:35 PM
4

Insane. Yeah there’s not a lot that can go wrong when your attractive lol.
/r/seduction09/07/24 05:24 PM
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It’s not creepy to want a submissive wife. You sound gay lmao. And again this is also a looks thing. If Chris Hemsworth/Christian Grey says he wants a submissive wife, girls will be turned on But if a wrinkly dinosaur with a receding hairline says he wants a submissive girl than it’s weird/creepy
/r/seduction09/07/24 05:16 PM
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Its not a pathetic fantasy. At least in America. However I do believe that you are right if you are talking about EE. I have friends online who live there and tell me the same thing also so I believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:11 PM
2

Social circle only REALLY works if you are naturally extroverted, neurotypical, charming, funny dude whos high energy/life of the party or your attractive. If ur not a dude with 5-6/10 looks and 9-10/10 social skills or 7-9/10 looks and 5-6/10 social skills then your only get the leftovers and be the 4th eskimo bro lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:17 PM
3

"I see unattractive men with attractive women on a regular basis" aka I saw a 6'5 man with a 4/10 face dating a mid girl wearing a ton of makeup and a slutty outfit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:11 PM
1

Facts lol. Boomers and GenXers have no idea
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:04 PM
0

Yes because women have comically high standards standards that are unreachable for most dudes so there’s no point in caring a lot ab her orgasm. Unless it’s your wife and she’s inexperienced
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:36 PM
1

Hard cope. What I’m saying is especially the case for GenZ/Younger Millennials. Dating apps/Social Media and 4th/5th wave feminism really changed things a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:32 PM
1

Nah. You also have to remember that just because you see average women with average men doesn’t mean that guy was her #1 option and he’s getting her full love and submission. Most of the time those dudes are getting Chads leftovers. And I think this is pretty common for couples that weren’t HS/College sweethearts imo And sure there are countless examples of relationships like this lasting anyway, but personally I could never live with the fact that another man got better treatment and benefits f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:20 PM
1

Dude wtf💀
/r/seduction06/07/24 10:49 PM
1

“No worries I’ll assume that your social skills are a 5/10 too, and that your overestimating your seduction skills.” Never said my game was perfect. Also 5-6/10 social/seduction skills is all that’s really needed if you’re the woman’s ideal type. It’ll be super easy to escalate and carry a good conversation. If your the type of dude who’s constantly getting LMR and you have to try to become this expert seducer to overcome that and risk getting MeToo’d then you are super down bad lmfao. “Why not …
/r/seduction06/07/24 06:51 PM
0

Wasn’t tryna be a dick. Just being objective.
/r/seduction06/07/24 05:49 PM
1

“I am conventionally fairly attractive” Would like to see pics no homo. If I had to guess you are probably in the 5-6.5 range line most dudes in this sub “Shouldn’t you consider the reality that you weren’t as good at using the seduction toolkit as you think” Yeah obviously my game is not top tier but there’s a point of diminishing returns in game especially if you’re a naturally introverted/non NT dude. Obviously there’s merit in learning how to express yourself freely, learn subcoms/inner game…
/r/seduction06/07/24 05:48 PM
10

Well the thing is that I used to be the guy that studied seduction. For way more than an hour a week. I paid for multiple masterminds and bought multiple books/courses. and from my experience I’ve noticed that yes game does have some merit but for the most part your Looks + Subcoms are king. Everything else is mostly irrelevant. Pretty much all of my nightgame results came from 1. Being the woman’s type, 2. Have good subcomms, and 3. Timing/Location I’ve something else that I’ve noticed that ver…
/r/seduction06/07/24 04:59 PM
1

No offense but you’re prob not that attractive. Prob HTN at best.
/r/seduction06/07/24 04:23 PM
15

You’re half right and half wrong. You’re right about the fact that women will be turned off if they find out you’re doing all of this looksmaxxing shit. However you’re wrong about it’s efficacy. Looksmaxxing if by far the highest ROI thing you can do to gain female attraction, at least in my experience. When it comes to nightgame I saw a WAY higher ROI from growing a beard and wearing shoe lifts than I ever did from studying “push pull techniques” or “how to neg a girl properly”
/r/seduction06/07/24 04:12 PM
7

Finasteride and minoxidil
/r/seduction06/07/24 04:07 PM
7

The claims and evidence you provide is disingenuous. We don’t know what the woman’s body looks like and we don’t know the man’s height or body really either. A 6’1+ dude with an average face is not a 5/10 lmao. Plus that girl is prob a 6.5-7. Not an 8. Unless she has an amazing curvy hourglass body but judging by the picture she prob has a decent skinny white girl type of body
/r/seduction06/07/24 04:07 PM
2

Good don’t want to work with a libtard dating coach anyway.
/r/seduction03/07/24 01:33 AM
-1

Yeah choosing parents takes a lot of skill
/r/seduction03/07/24 01:05 AM
-6

Reddit is full of libtards
/r/seduction03/07/24 12:17 AM
-2

Made up ppl? lol you’re clueless
/r/seduction02/07/24 10:29 PM
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You just said so much without saying anything. Also in 40 years in gonna be happily married with a n autistic based Latina while you’re gonna be in an open relationship with a ran thru libtard single mom who has 4 kids with 2 different baby daddies.
/r/seduction02/07/24 10:03 PM
-3

Bro im not even far right lmfao. Im center right and dont care if a woman who is a trump or tate supporter. I just dont want a woman who is super liberal/feminist and overly sensitive like I said.
/r/seduction02/07/24 08:17 PM
0

Both tbh. Was mainly trying to figure out where I can meet girls my age that have my same sense of humor
/r/seduction02/07/24 08:08 PM
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No im not even really trying hard to sleep with the girls in the circle. Rn I’m just trying to build connections and ascend within the circle but like I said it’s hard to build that connection with those type of women. I think it’s a looks issue because my Chad friends have the same sense of humor and are trump supporters and do fine but then get offended by why I say pretty easily so it’s prob a looks issue. And it’s not like my Chad friends are diplomatic either.
/r/seduction02/07/24 08:06 PM
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Most gen z girls wouldn’t do that tho let’s be honest. And yeah my social skills need some work but at the same time I feel like the people I connected with the most I barely had to try. With the girls that I had to try super hard to be great conversationalist with and exhaust every last strategy, bring up cool stories, make sexual innuendos (with chicks on dates with not social circle girls), ask creative questions to get her invested and interested, tease, etc, things never worked out with the…
/r/seduction02/07/24 07:50 PM
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Haha you sound triggered lmfao. And half of what you said didn’t even make sense Im not even invested in politics like that. I just say I don’t want women who are super lib because they are always super sensitive. It’s not the politics itself I have an issue with. A woman could be center left and have a good sense of humor and be cool. But like I said most college chicks are super liberal/feminist and also get weirded out very easily if ur not a neurotypical normal dude. Wdym by “Do you have to …
/r/seduction02/07/24 07:34 PM
1

Imma try that
/r/seduction02/07/24 07:12 PM
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Yeah I already do that, its just that I'm a dude whos always been anti PC, only had male friends and has dark/edgy sense of humor and ik there are def women out there that i could get a long with but its def not the majority (esp the attractive ones). And ive found that when im in most social circles im either miserable or im somewhat okay with hanging with the ppl here and there but its not something i can do often since its so draining to filter myself heavily and put on a fake neurotypical PC…
/r/seduction02/07/24 06:59 PM
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I havent made that type of joke yet around women but honestly if chicks are getting offended by jokes like i wouldnt wanna be friends with them. And the thing is that its not like I need women to be trump or tate supporters but at the same time I dont want a girl whos like the avg college chick and is super liberal and gets offended easily.
/r/seduction02/07/24 06:55 PM
5

Yeah def a game issue bro.
/r/seduction02/07/24 06:01 PM
5

Hot take but I think the idea of "confidence being number 1" is BS since most dudes at a bar do display a good amount of confidence due to liquid courage (unless they are obviously piss drink and girls can tell that they're compensating with their AA with copious amounts of alcohol). But other than that most dudes that have a few drinks will display the similar levels of confidence so the idea that this is the main factor in attraction is wrong imo
/r/seduction02/07/24 06:00 PM
2

How tall are you?
/r/seduction02/07/24 05:58 PM
8

He prob wont share this info. and If he does it will prob be massively embellished. Majority of nightgame success for men in the 4-6 range will boil down to luck and timing more than your "game"
/r/seduction02/07/24 05:54 PM
10

Yeah it would have some carryover but if you want to get better at talking to women the best thing to do is to just talk to women. (and improve looks)
/r/seduction02/07/24 05:49 PM
0

You have a right to be mad here and i get it. However its not the girls fault. Honestly this was either a looks issue or game issue.
/r/seduction02/07/24 05:48 PM
2

Will do bro thanks
/r/seduction02/07/24 04:13 PM
1

Im sorry bro I just hate myself and I hate women and I have no idea what to do. I feel like continuing to game women in my current state will just lead to more and more trauma and resentment of women. Maybe I’m better off just doing monk mode like you said and just focusing on hitting gym, improving appearance, getting money up, getting a social circle maybe idk
/r/seduction02/07/24 04:01 PM
1

Game is mostly BS. I honestly think it’s more about genetics, luck, timing, proximity, and familiarity
/r/seduction02/07/24 03:50 PM
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Maybe we have a different idea of what 3-5s are but no not everyone can get them lmao. Especially in this day and age. Most dudes that get laid in the club are only walking out with girls in that range.
/r/seduction02/07/24 03:48 PM
1

Ur prob right but my mind is so fucked rn man. All of these bad experiences ive had with dates has already made me hopeless and bitter. If I try to get female friends and go the social circle route its not gonna work out since im resentful and have a negative mindset. And yall will prob say: "Oh just get rid of your negative mindset and be more positive bro, have an abundance mindset!" But its almost impossible for me to have an abundance mindset with the current results ive been getting. Plus I…
/r/seduction02/07/24 03:41 PM
1

Yall are telling me to be humble and stop being soft when most of you haven't had to put in nearly as much work as me to get good results. If yall did hundreds of approaches and matches just to get ghosted by 4s then yall would be complaining on reddit too.
/r/seduction02/07/24 03:36 PM
1

Well to address the first part, it’s hard for me to find enjoyment in the process when I takes me hundreds of approaches and matches just to get a date with a 4/10 that ghost me anyway. Very emotionally taxing But to address the other parts I do agree with “being impatient makes things take longer” I need to work on that and just focus on taking correct action everyday And what you said also made me think ab the quality of my approaches because most of my approaches were just a quick direct open…
/r/seduction02/07/24 02:02 PM
1

And no counter argument as expected. Just useless generic normie advice of “go outside” lol. Shocking
/r/seduction02/07/24 01:53 PM
1

You cant even provide a good counter argument to that and you're comparing it to debating whether the earth is round or not lol
/r/seduction02/07/24 01:48 PM
1

It’s not terminally online gender war discourse, it’s the truth. Most women at a certain age will have a past frame of reference and if the guys they deal with in the future don’t exceed that then they’re never gonna get her true love and submission that’s what my player friends have told me and it makes perfect sense based on my little exp
/r/seduction02/07/24 01:08 PM
-2

Because I’m good at hiding it on dates and text. But the thing is that how tf I’m suppose to fully internalize an abundance mindset when it took my hundreds of approaches and matches just to get dates with sub par women who ghost me anyway. How TF am I suppose to have an abundance mindset in that type of situation bro. That shit makes no sense and is just woo woo thinking.
/r/seduction02/07/24 12:56 PM
0

I’m not coming off as needy and insecure. I’m doing a good job of hiding it and running decent game. I am making a lot of progress and find that game comes kinda natural to me (prob cause I studied theory for so many years lol) but now I’m just not sure if things are working out because my game isn’t exceptional, my looks are subpar, or I said something offensive/controversial/red flag to her on the date.
/r/seduction02/07/24 03:25 AM
1

Ik I need to work on myself but if I remain inexperienced I’m gonna keep getting ghosted.
/r/seduction02/07/24 03:17 AM
1

Cause I need the experience asap and don’t even get a response from girls on dating apps that are over a 5. I don’t have a chance with one of those unless I did social circle but fuck social circle.
/r/seduction02/07/24 03:06 AM
-2

Jeez you sound out of touch if you think saying that means that I don’t know how to talk to people. I can only imagine how boring ur interactions must be.
/r/seduction29/06/24 12:14 PM
-3

Its all looks. I remember I met a Chad in Cabo that has the weirdest sense of humor and pulled. That’s real freedom right there. Changing your personality and trying to act more normal is the gayest shit ever
/r/seduction29/06/24 03:32 AM
-5

Nah fuck that. I don’t regret saying that lol. If I was either A. Better looking or B. Approached a woman w a better sense of humor than it would’ve gone well. Fuck trying to be normal
/r/seduction29/06/24 02:40 AM
3

Nah I don’t talk ab manosphere or say really weird shit in front of girls. Like for example I cold approached this milf employee today and I told her she had the nicest chin I’ve ever seen in the middle of our convo and she ignored and proceeded to upsell me on some BS.
/r/seduction29/06/24 12:19 AM
1

I’m not in great shape tbh. I have a decent face but I’m 25%bf
/r/seduction29/06/24 12:17 AM
0

Jesus christ can you not read? I literally told you that there was chemistry, sex, and kissing (that she initiated) and she gave puppy eyes. Thats not something that can be faked or is done with someone that theyre not attracted to or want to avoid. Also I didnt end up getting ghosted. She is just responding a lot slower than before which is concerning. Hard to tell whether shes interested or not
/r/seduction28/06/24 06:28 AM
1

Bro there was literally chemistry, kissing, sex, and puppy eyes on the date. Not much troubleshooting that can be done at that point.
/r/seduction27/06/24 04:57 AM
1

Haha Ik. Look at this guy for example: https://youtu.be/qqwgLmEXWgU?si=xlJX_zzQoA7B9e46 He has basic social skills/game at best but he has women responding very well to him and actually contributing to convo and asking for HIS number because he’s a 6’8 giga Tyrone And on top of that he has girls approaching him. Ropefuel fr fr
/r/seduction22/06/24 04:33 AM
3

Game is cope. If these women were actually attracted to you, you could go up to them and make basic conversation and it’d be good enough. And Ik cause I’ve seen this and experienced this many times. Unless you’re extremely autistic and cringe when you go up to them, it’s not ur game that’s the issue. What’s your opener when you go up to these girls?
/r/seduction19/06/24 08:22 PM
1

True but I’m talking ab in the romantic sense. Teen love isn’t 100% pure. It’s still conditional but it’s closer to being genuine love since at that age you can get away with being yourself and at that age it’s cute to be a loser virgin that’s experiencing new things in life. But by 23, womens standards/expectations are gonna be WAY higher. They’re gonna expect you to have game and be charming/suave to an extent, be good in bed, have a cool friend group, have relationship experience, be in good …
/r/seduction19/06/24 01:06 AM
1

Yeah but you don’t realize that things with women my age never go well cause they’re standards are way too high by the time there my age (23). By that age they expect me to be this charming suave guy who’s good in bed, has a cool friend group, has relationship experience, is in good shape, etc Not saying that women in their early 20s expect dudes to be making 6 figures+ and have status but at the same time, women in their early 20s (women in the 5-7 range) are gonna expect to have these^ things …
/r/seduction19/06/24 01:02 AM
0

I’m an incel for wanting to experience the purest form of love? LOL
/r/seduction19/06/24 12:55 AM
1

Only issue is that once a girl turns 18 and goes to college/gets on dating apps and finds out ab her worth, I feel like the teen love thing is pretty much out the window at that point lol.
/r/seduction19/06/24 12:52 AM
1

LOL. Based ass comment. The past 2 girls I dated were kinda like this. They were 3/10s who were both 19yos and very inexperienced and treated me like a king. I was both their 2nd guy. Didn’t last very long tho cause I wasn’t really attracted to them and didn’t want to lead them on or waste more of their time
/r/seduction19/06/24 12:48 AM
1

Wrong. Women my age don’t reject me. I just have better experiences with women that are less experienced.
/r/seduction14/06/24 09:20 AM
1

Nah bruh wtf. Not below 6”0. Unless u have a garbage pheno (like Indian lmfao) but if you are white and 5’7-‘5”11 and you have an above average face and good body, you’ll be good. Like I’m a 5’10 hispanic that looks pretty white so I do fine
/r/seduction14/06/24 04:12 AM
2

Insane how many guys in his sub embellish or completely lie ab their life stories. A bunch of phonies lmao
/r/seduction14/06/24 04:06 AM
1

lol typical feminist. You act like I’m waiting at their HS graduation to groom them lmfao. Plus I don’t even go to bars like that. But my main point is that 18yos and 19yos match with me on dating apps how are you gonna call me a predator when these women want to date me
/r/seduction14/06/24 04:05 AM
3

Inexperienced 23yo dating an 18yo is “predatory”?! Tell me ur a terminally online femcel without telling me ur a terminally online femcel
/r/seduction14/06/24 03:29 AM
1

18 is a legal adult. Plus a im an inexperienced 23yo (Not 24 but interesting you used 24 to make it sound worse to fit ur narrative) so I’m the same mental age as a 18/19yo and have already dated some 19yos. These are the opinions of terminally online feminists that are butthurt that younger women are more desirable
/r/seduction14/06/24 03:28 AM
1

8s,9s,10s are models buddy. That’s prob like 1% of the women on your local campus depending on where you go. You’re standard for 8,9, 10s must be extremely low lmfao
/r/seduction14/06/24 03:21 AM
3

I’m sorry but this is total cap🧢. Unless you are dumpster diving.
/r/seduction14/06/24 03:18 AM
1

Haha ur about to get pedo accusations from the feminists lmao Also I’ve been dating 19yos and I was the hottest guy they’ve been with (they told me) but they weren’t really that attractive to me so idk if that counts tbh. But yeah man imma keep working on myself preciate the kind message
/r/seduction13/06/24 10:44 PM
8

No. 18/19 is an adult. Plus in my experience, women who are my age have ghosted immediately after the 1st date in seeing my lack of sex skills, despite having a good flirty interaction on the date. Also Ik there are cool girls out there that are willing to show the ropes to someone inexperienced but they are the exception. Plus being in a relationship where the woman has more experience is usually a recipe for disaster. I’d rather get someone who’s my same age mentally (which is prob gonna be an…
/r/seduction13/06/24 07:13 PM
4

🤦‍♂️
/r/seduction13/06/24 04:14 PM
15

Ridiculous take🤦‍♂️. It’s not creepy at all. Plus you have to realize that women my age are gonna have higher standards and less tolerance for a guy that doesn’t know what he’s doing and doesn’t have experience which will lead to issues. A girl who’s that age who is also inexperienced (LIKE ME) would be a better partner for me. I don’t get how this is hard to understand. Instead you’re just trying to frame me as a creep who wants to prey on young girls which is ridiculous since I’m a 23yo w Pete…
/r/seduction13/06/24 04:09 PM
17

Ik ur trying to make me feel better but DiCaprio is top 0.00000001%. Most men at 49 or even 30+ aren’t even getting a small fraction of the success he’s getting. Very few dudes over 30 are smashing college aged hotties and are getting genuine desire from them.
/r/seduction13/06/24 01:26 PM
2

Yeah lots of cope in this comment section. Tbh College/HS is the average man’s best opportunity to get a solid relationship or hook up with women in the 5-7 range (assuming he’s at least somewhat popular and has a good IG/Snap that displays a fun life and has hot female friends, etc) but after college/HS it will become significantly harder once you’re old social circle fades and you have to start relying on cold approach/dating apps. And sure you can argue that post grads can still socialcirclem…
/r/seduction12/06/24 08:34 PM
8

They won’t tell him and if they do they’re gonna say some vague BS like “I didn’t feel a spark”
/r/seduction11/06/24 03:44 AM
2

Saas is right. If you’re not a woman’s type even if you hypothetically say all of the right things and have “tight game”, dealing with the chick is always gonna feel like pulling teeth cause you constantly have to put on a fake persona which causes you to be constantly neurotic and insecure that you’re not spiking her emotions enough or getting her compelled enough. Honestly sucks the joy out of everything. Better to just “looksmax” then find women who find you attractive or at least find you at…
/r/seduction07/06/24 06:01 AM
1

Not really. Never heard of a guy flirting with a girl he had no intentions on going out with just to get validation
/r/seduction01/06/24 07:32 PM
1

Yup. Spot on. I’m coming to this realization now
/r/seduction01/06/24 05:29 PM
1

all of the shit you’re saying only works if you’re good looking or if the woman was already attracted to the way you look. All of this game shit is fake. Stop the gaslighting
/r/seduction01/06/24 05:09 PM
1

I wish you were right but that is cope. Women in these “hobbies” are also on dating apps. Women in hobbies will still waste your time and feel like they could do better than you. Pretty much all attractive women over the age of 17 are aware of how much power they have now. I am cooked.
/r/seduction01/06/24 05:03 PM
2

If she was into you then shed be on a date with you already. Just ignore her and looksmax bruh
/r/seduction01/06/24 04:29 PM
2

Move on and game other chicks
/r/seduction01/06/24 04:26 PM
2

“I flirt with most women because it’s fun not because I wanna sleep with them all” Lol ur like the only mf that thinks this way. It’s not fun trying to think of a witty/flirty message to send for 10 minutes straight. What is fun is dealing with women that are actually interested in you that you could text pretty much anything to and you know they’ll respond regardless. Texting most women from dating apps/cold approach feels like diffusing a bomb
/r/seduction01/06/24 04:19 PM
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No. The girls on my level were in the same physical shape as me (we are both on the skinny side), I was 4-8 inches taller than them, and facially I was either equal or slightly better so my standards are definitely not too high at all, especially since I the girls I ended up going on dates with were pretty overweight and were in worse shape than me.
/r/seduction01/06/24 01:26 PM
1

How long do you think the guy should text for? Plus do you think I should call it quits if the girl is taking a day or more to respond? Do you think that’s a ghost/flake waiting to happen?
/r/seduction01/06/24 01:12 PM
2

Yep. They’re 18-23
/r/seduction01/06/24 11:11 AM
3

Ur right but the worst part is that even girls that are 3s and 4s are ghosting me like this (im a 5.5). The girls im talking about are overweight while im on the skinnier side.
/r/seduction01/06/24 03:56 AM
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I’m just talking about attractiveness man.
/r/seduction01/06/24 03:18 AM
1

I’m a 5
/r/seduction01/06/24 03:04 AM
1

I like this but my only issue with this is that I feel like it’d only work on girls that are way less attractive than me. To pull the girls I actually find i attractive I feel like I’d have to be persistent and chase like the other girl said in the comments but at that point it won’t even be worth it because the dynamic will be fucked.
/r/seduction01/06/24 02:57 AM
1

I feel like “tipping them into greater interest” has never really worked for me because even if I get the woman on the date, the dynamic is gonna be fucked because I’m the one chasing her and she’s not gonna treat me the way I wanna be treated cause she’s gonna look down on me.
/r/seduction01/06/24 02:50 AM
1

How should I phrase asking them out tho? How would you do it?
/r/seduction01/06/24 02:45 AM
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So you’re saying I should open them with that? I shouldn’t build investment or try to flirt first?
/r/seduction01/06/24 02:42 AM
13

The girls I’m texting aren’t even hot tho. I’m a 5/10 dude and mainly match with girls in the 3-5 range. Occasionally I match with 6s and 7s but they never respond to my first message.
/r/seduction01/06/24 02:39 AM
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I get what you’re saying but I don’t wanna invest so much energy into women that aren’t that interested in me. I don’t think it’d be worth it and will lead to a lot of heartache
/r/seduction01/06/24 02:38 AM
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Ik but the only girls I’ve been able to get on dates where girls that were less attractive than me. All of the ones on my level ended up ghosting
/r/seduction01/06/24 02:34 AM
70

Ur right but it’s still mentally taxing and is hurting my self esteem
/r/seduction01/06/24 02:30 AM
10

What’s the solution?
/r/seduction01/06/24 02:26 AM
13

Joining a class to get puss is low value. Don’t do it unless it’s a class you actually wanna go to.
/r/seduction19/02/24 11:16 PM
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🧢
/r/seduction10/02/24 12:43 PM
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Most dudes saying that looks don’t matter that much and game is king are Gen X dudes that were dating before social media/dating apps. No millennial/zoomer that’s killing it in the modern dating market and is dating models will tell you that looks/status isn’t king. They’ll tell you that “learning game” is necessary but it has diminishing returns. Going the route of “mastering game” should only be done if you’re a guy capped at a 5 or 6 SMV wise. But if you’re a guy that has a good genetic base …
/r/seduction10/02/24 12:26 PM
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Most seddit posts are tbh
/r/seduction04/02/24 02:58 PM
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These are good tips but tbh dancefloor game or club game in general is a waste of time if you are sub7
/r/seduction01/02/24 04:45 PM
1

That’s totally fine bro good luck🫡
/r/seduction28/01/24 09:14 AM
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I agree that approaching one girl/group after the other is a bad idea but at the same time I’m not there to waste time. I just go thru the cycle of ordering drinks/talking to bartender —> talking to friends or other guys there —> Dance —> Approach girl/group —> repeat
/r/seduction28/01/24 08:18 AM
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You’re right but like I said in the other comment, if you’re a sub7 guy running the typical normie strategy of “getting hammered, dancing, and waiting for women to come to me” won’t work.
/r/seduction28/01/24 07:40 AM
4

Bro stop lying your goal is to get laid lmao. Taking baby steps is good tho
/r/seduction28/01/24 07:37 AM
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No. The dudes who are the best at nightgame have some sort of structure/plan and do go out to get laid. Normie advice of “Oh if you wanna get laid at the club just look like you’re having fun, be outcome independent, get drunk, and women will come” will lead to nowhere if you’re not a good looking guy. Best case scenario you bang a few 4s every now and then.
/r/seduction28/01/24 07:32 AM
13

Bro men go to club to get laid lmfao.
/r/seduction28/01/24 01:27 AM
2

How would you warm approach as a non student tho? Plus do you have any ideas how I could infiltrate the college scene without being known as the "cold approach guy" on campus
/r/seduction27/01/24 05:21 AM
2

Im actually trying to do this as well within the next few months before the school year ends. However I was thinking about building the social circle by meeting guys at college bars. Idk how I’d build a social circle thru daygame tho. Cause I don’t think cold approaching guys mid day would bring good results.
/r/seduction26/01/24 04:37 AM
2

How does social circle play a role in daygame?
/r/seduction26/01/24 04:31 AM
2

Can you do deeper dive into what daygame tactics you’d use as if u were not a student
/r/seduction26/01/24 04:17 AM
5

Community college is a dud. I remember when I went to community college and approached there, after ab 15-20 approaches I already had a negative reputation lmfao. 1500-2000 student campus. Not a great idea imo but if u have no other option then knock yourself out
/r/seduction26/01/24 02:33 AM
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I don’t think he’s a student. Also college game only really shines if you have everything working in tandem: Dorm (ideal logistics) + in multiple clubs/orgs or in a fraternity + in good shape = poon tycoon. If your not a student or you live off campus then college student daygame larping only has a slight advantage over going to the bar
/r/seduction26/01/24 02:30 AM
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I agree if it’s a 30yr old day gaming on campus. But if it’s a dude below 24 doing it, that’s not really “weird” or “creepy” imo
/r/seduction26/01/24 02:25 AM
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