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Only if one judges their worth by the feminine standard of sexual market value. Judge yourself by male standards like integrity, honestly, forbearance, thrift, accomplishment stack those against the worth of any woman who would use the term incel.
/r/AntiFeminists08/01/23 04:35 PM
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It's not even a real word. A contraction of two.
/r/AntiFeminists08/01/23 04:29 PM
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Most women like that are never really available. They go to college with their high school sweetheart and marry him. even if they break-up they pick a new mate from their closed-off circle of friends that is based around their church group, school or some other organization you aren't part of. Other than that there are women who are traditional but so caught up in a religious orthodoxy they might as well be feminists because it is the same sort of rigid thinking that isn't going to allow an outs…
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/22 06:36 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T1c7GkzRQQ&ab\_channel=ThePoliceVEVO
/r/AntiFeminists01/12/22 06:14 AM
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I know exactly what you mean. I live in a small town less than 8k pop. an hour and a half from a major city. Back when I wanted to date this place was impossible. No place to go and just casually hang out. No opportunity to casually meet. Where was I going to have a casual coffee date at McDonald's? Now that I monk mode. I like it hear. Low crime, low noise. Can get everywhere in minutes.
/r/MGTOW30/07/21 05:47 AM
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I haven't seen anyone describe it from the other side for you yet. I have nothing to offer a woman. I'm opinionated, self-centered, irritable, analytical, snobbish and a gadfly. I can't get along with women and women don't like my critical nature and Socratic conversations ("Why did you eat a roll of cookie dough? I thought we were going low-carb?"). I have enough self insight to see how I am and I wouldn't wish me on anybody just to satisfy some temporary lust and infatuation. I'm not that hand…
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 03:41 AM
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Look at it as a positive. Maybe it means in your area men are catching on and there are less simps to do the work for free for these women so the women are forced to do it themselves.
/r/MGTOW27/07/21 01:04 PM
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Of course we still find ourselves there unless you just shut down and don't ever speak to any women. It's not that simple and not that black and white. There are thousands of years of evolutionary development you can't just shut off. Dozens of furtive little non-verbal cues that set-off your primal instincts. I can tell myself I'm not going to engage with a woman emotionally but if she tilts her face down, rolls her eyes up, pokes out her lower lip and talks in a little girl voice "I hurt my wit…
/r/MGTOW225/07/21 04:44 PM
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Why it doesn't make sense for so many of you commenting is you are approaching the situation as men, and men who believe in honor and order and respect. You also believe in sacrificing personal happiness so that we can all share those things. For these women who are posting- personal happiness in the present is their guiding principal. Go back and read it with that in mind. See what the poster feels guilty about they look "happy" and she feels like she is ruining the "happiness". The respondent …
/r/MGTOW25/07/21 04:27 PM
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Same thing happens to me. Especially co-workers. The married ones open up and tell me everything from their views on God to how they don't really like their children to how their husband sweats in his sleep. Single co-workers don't seem to want to talk about much of anything. I thought maybe it was the smartphone era? These younger (single) women don't know how to have a decent conversation face to face. I don't know about your missing out on marriage. Look at their track record how long have th…
/r/MGTOW225/07/21 04:12 PM
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That's one of the hardest, spikiest pills I've had to swallow. It's much worse if at the time they say "Let's take some pictures because I want to cherish this moment forever." There's on of the dating coaches, (Doc Love I think based on 100's of interviews with women) says they have been breaking up with you in their mind long before you know it. Although they are with you sleeping with you , living with you etc. They are building resentments in their mind and by the time they actually break it…
/r/MGTOW23/07/21 05:27 AM
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I got it.
/r/MGTOW23/07/21 04:55 AM
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That's why I identify as an Omega. The last man anybody wants or expects anything from. I'm only motivated by my own ideas not trying to live up to anyone's expectation or curry favor.
/r/MGTOW20/07/21 02:00 PM
4

Most people aren't going to be aware of that distinction. They don't want to dig deep enough to find out. All they see is male who is not following the script of getting married , trying to get married or divorced and needs to marry again. It's like religion as an example. There are myriad Christian denominations many of them vehemently disagree on belief. To a Muslim in a Muslim country they are all just Christians. They don't cares about the subtle differences.
/r/MGTOW20/07/21 01:47 PM
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That's a difficult one to answer. Our hormones are such apart of who we are. It would be better put to someone who doesn't have male hormones. I can say before puberty I didn't care a thing about girls or playing with girls. They never made sense to me and were somewhat annoying. Now I have a lot of women in my life co-workers and acquaintances that I really have no sexual feeling for. Functionally they could all be replaced by men. If that were so I would sometimes miss the way women titter and…
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 07:38 AM
5

Awalt is hard. I'm always meeting women that test that belief. I'm not involved with them sexually though and that's where it seems to come in to play.
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 07:27 AM
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I don't keep up with these terms like Chad and such. Yet you use the terms simps and betas. I never heard any of those terms till I discovered the red pill. Then they were all there together.
/r/MGTOW17/07/21 03:25 PM
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You have the same trouble I do and why I try to go monk now. I'm not red-pilled enough to not emotionally bond with a woman that I have physical intimacy with. The sob stories work on me. In my work I deal with children so seeing a kid that looks like he needs help preys on my mind. Don't do this again your tender heart will lead you into deep dark waters. Now let me tell you how to get out of it: Don't set up some demanding "you must leave now scene". That will just create drama. What you want …
/r/MGTOW07/07/21 07:24 PM
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Can cause some serious eye-strain.
/r/MGTOW205/07/21 03:20 AM
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You're are making me wistful with nostalgia. How I remember those times so well.
/r/MGTOW02/07/21 05:15 PM
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Wouldn't the true MGTOW move be to learn to bake my own cake? Then not let her have a slice after she hits the wall.
/r/MGTOW02/07/21 02:48 AM
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Thank you for posting this OP. I hint at the same sort of idea occasionally and like you have seen here it generates some objections. I'm 58 never married and from long experience I concur with what you have written. Those "decent" women never even seriously enter the dating pool. As someone said below they pull their mates from High School or College sweetheart church or family friends and then head right down the aisle. It's probably more prevalent in the flyover country where social conservat…
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 05:25 AM
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Man, only someone that have never tried a Little Debbie would even ask that. Are you vegan?
/r/MGTOW01/07/21 01:15 AM
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Read the post again. Women are "slaves to their tingles". It's hard-wired in their brains to reproduce with the most violent man they can find. It takes a lot of grooming by a strong father, rational mother, church and school and social group to keep a woman from following those instincts. Look at all those old 50's teen movie clichés' where the middle class conservative teen girl wants to date the leather jacket motorcycle riding rebel. The women I've known who bred with criminals are a bit del…
/r/MGTOW30/06/21 01:38 PM
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You live in the wrong neighborhood.
/r/MGTOW29/06/21 02:32 PM
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I get that way about all of them. A lot of times I'll watch the first season of something but never go back for the rest.
/r/MGTOW29/06/21 01:44 PM
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Just a fun way of saying. I'm not on here to be liked or seek validation from you. Since you felt compelled to tell me you aren't flattered by my post.
/r/ExRedPill29/06/21 03:11 AM
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I watched them all and can't tell you one thing about them or quote one scene.
/r/MGTOW29/06/21 03:07 AM
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I'm not here to pick-up chicks.
/r/ExRedPill29/06/21 02:04 AM
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"Because you are kinda dumb...for a girl."
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 11:23 AM
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Why and where are you coming into contact with these women in the first place if you are a monk? If it's unavoidable like work or same apt. building that's a different set of strategies. Otherwise you shouldn't come in contact with women . Check out girls, pharmacy tech, those sorts of situations just be pleasant but don't pry or give up information and move on quickly. You said texting. Stay off of social media. If you have to be on for family or work then ghost single women. Flat out don't ans…
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 04:51 AM
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My father built his own house by hand in the early 60's. It was still standing, still being lived in until a few years ago. He never worked construction. He read a lot.
/r/MGTOW26/06/21 10:05 PM
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I feel for the little guy in the blue shirt. Look how he's looking at her. I'm afraid she has awakened something in him that will keep him in strip clubs the rest of his life.
/r/MGTOW26/06/21 02:10 PM
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58 next week, no kids, never married. Regrets: spending all the blue pill energy trying to understand women, expecting them to be logical, grasping at straws of interest from girls who had friend-zoned me from the start. The desperate romantic gestures. Talking the ears off my other blue-pill loser buddies about girls. All the self-pity.
/r/MGTOW26/06/21 01:31 AM
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I guess those are cat ears on her phone or something but at first it made me think she was holding a taser. Really struggled for minute with what the picture was about, was that her defense pose I thought.
/r/MGTOW24/06/21 01:58 PM
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Life experience is a factor. I'm 58 but never married, no kids. Most women around me, around my age have children, grandchildren, step-children and so on. If they are single they are usually divorced. I can't relate to divorce or children or marriage. I don't have much in common with them and most are so bitter. Younger women have a similar lifestyle to mine.
/r/ExRedPill21/06/21 01:41 PM
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The cure you haven't mentioned is keep them breeding. Children will take up all of a female's idle time and make them focus and give them a sense of fulfillment. I see it in my female dog. I've never had her bred and she has a listless restlessness that can't be solved. Watch a woman with a baby even someone else's and you will see their entire personality change. It's their biological imperative and despite feminism their socially assigned role in life.
/r/MGTOW10/06/21 01:59 PM
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I agree, I struggle with what the point of MGTOW discussion is if it's not about sexuality, relationships and women's behavior? I've been a bachelor my entire adult life some forty years and got along just fine without MGTOW until a few years ago. If I wanted to learn to cook or sew or mow my lawn there were plenty of resources that didn't care if I was a bachelor or not. The one thing I was missing was an outlet to talk about relationships, dating (or the avoidance of it) and gender issues. Tho…
/r/MGTOW209/06/21 01:25 PM
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There is always a heavy demand for fresh mediocrity. In every generation the least cultivated taste has the largest appetite. Paul Gauguin
/r/MGTOW07/06/21 03:26 PM
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Just from a aesthetic point of view it really is better now. If you are just talking about eye-candy. Back in the 70's/80's there were lots of just frumpy misshapen girls and backwards country girls that dressed like hill-folk. I describe it as the triumph of Madison Ave. Even in the hinterlands very rarely today do you see a woman under 40 who doesn't make an effort to look good. Nice hair, decent clothes and such. Even the fat ones make an attempt. Personality-wise that's a whole different bal…
/r/MGTOW07/06/21 03:01 AM
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This is one of the most un-mgtow songs ever! It's actually a simping song. He had been in love with Stevie Nicks since they were teenagers and she had recently broken up with him but he still had to see her all the time because they were in the band together. This song was his whiny, needy, angry reaction to her moving on to someone else. I really don't like to listen to it. Read the next stanza: "If I could Maybe I'd give you my world How can I When you won't take it from me" He's not maintaini…
/r/MGTOW06/06/21 05:41 PM
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The quality is so low. Most of those women who will date someone much older are mentally or emotionally damaged beyond repair. It never lasts long either.
/r/MGTOW31/05/21 02:28 PM
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You are under six foot. I've read that's a challenge for men to be found attractive. I'm not sure how the numbers actually play out. It doesn't sound unusual. Second dates are rare. Have you tried some online dating to expand your choices? Maybe look in the next nearest town.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/21 05:37 PM
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How old are you? Are you bald(ing)? Out of shape or obese? Dress well? Have a decent income? Are you after women half your age? All these will come into play for how appealing you are.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/21 05:30 PM
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I doubt she actually was friends with celebrity juggler. She may have met them once at a party or knew a girl who was sleeping with him. Girls get a lot of mileage out of being in a scene but not actually participating. Groupies, but they don't actually play instruments or sports etc. They may own a guitar but only know part of one song. I also learned back during my dating site days that women get a lot of mileage out of doing something once. Saw a lot of activities listed under hobbies like ho…
/r/MGTOW28/05/21 03:17 AM
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I'm no alpha (more like a omega) but I've had women want to go raw with me and just assume it's going to be ok. Mostly because they just will it to be so. I've seen women: leave on a one hundred mile trip with their tank on empty, Eat potato salad that has sat out for 36 hours, not follow up on a positive cancer screening, Head out the door with a picnic basket under a tornado warning and so on. This is why decent women crave leadership from men and most women need it. They have the foresight of…
/r/MGTOW23/05/21 11:59 PM
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Observe an intelligent man sometime out with his young daughter when he's conversing with a fellow lawyer, professor, engineer etc. Women like being a passive partner to ability and status. That's what they are craving when they say they want someone who can hold a conversation. They don't mean with them. They mean a man whose conversation skills they can admire.
/r/MGTOW23/05/21 01:50 PM
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What school offers that? Is a state-funded school?
/r/MGTOW14/05/21 03:25 AM
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It's a sexual come-on. Or they think it is. Just like low cleavage or a short skirt. Porn stars started getting tats so common women who wanted to be seen as that desirable started to get them. To me it's a big red flag. In my time only sailors, bikers and a few ex-marines had tats.
/r/MGTOW06/05/21 02:54 AM
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If an incel claims to be a mgtow then he is lying to himself. Are you saying a lifelong virgin can't be mgtow? I would say the defining characteristic of an incel is a male who craves sex but through his lack of physical appeal and social ineptitude (maybe other factors) can't get laid. And he is emotionally obsesses with what he percieves as failure and the self-loathing about it. Mgtow is someone who actively chooses to eschew romantic entanglements with women. I've got no problem with a lifel…
/r/MGTOW203/05/21 05:00 AM
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57 never married. I try talking to my contemporaries that married in their twenties about what a wasteland the dating scene is now. They are clueless. Seems like things changed maybe 25-30 years ago. Social media seems to have been the real death knell to any sort of real connection or intimacy with females.
/r/MGTOW28/04/21 08:39 PM
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There's a famous old poem about how even great power and notoriety is temporal and ultimately meaningless: Ozymandias BY PERCY BYSSHE SHELLEY I met a traveller from an antique land, Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand, Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them,…
/r/MGTOW28/04/21 08:28 PM
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The ones I'm around are just the opposite. They all have some half-baked idea of govt. control or anti-Christian conspiracy. Not getting that shot unless forced to. If you quiz them on it they can't give you anything like details just a vague sense of not right. I'm in a small town in the South though.
/r/MGTOW28/04/21 08:20 PM
1

Do you have an entire playlist to share?
/r/MGTOW225/04/21 11:59 PM
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I think you are ignoring what a big part relationships play in peoples lives. It's not simple enough to just say I'm a bachelor and be done with it. People in your life will continually question, challenge and chastise you for your life choice. There is an unspoken assumption that marriage (co-habitation) is the proper and natural state to be in. I'm in my fifties and a life-long bachelor. To this day my sexuality is challenged. People want to know if I'm gay. If I show any friendliness to a wom…
/r/ExRedPill11/04/21 04:44 PM
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So many miss the mark and want MGTOW to be something it's not. It's not even analogous to Fight Club. Those that are wanting a club or a movement need to realize it's about going YOUR own way not the way of MGTOW. Nothing would make me run faster in the opposite direction than seeing some yahoo coming towards me in a MGTOW shirt! A case can be made that certain men need an all male club or cult to join but that isn't or wasn't the intent of MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW201/04/21 02:03 PM
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Yeah, I didn't want my post to get too long. Basically all the red pill knowledge showed me how women can be. I realized I was seeking validation instead of love or connection. After some low quality girls I realized I really was happier alone. Been a monk quite a few years.
/r/MGTOW214/03/21 11:44 PM
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His mother might have been widowed or the father may have abandoned them despite or because of the mother's strong Christian belief.
/r/MGTOW214/03/21 07:09 PM
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I'm not trying to attack or rebut you but I'm curious. Are you married or in a long-term relationship? Are you happy in it? I can agree with most of your points in a general sense till it comes to romantic entanglements. My doctor, my dentist, my supervisor at work and my boss are all women and I have no problem with that. Some of my best friends have been women I had no desire for. When it comes to love and sexuality all bets are off the table. Those same women: doctor, dentist, etc. romantic p…
/r/MGTOW14/03/21 07:04 PM
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I abstained from voting because I don't feel the choices quite align with my experience. I could just never understand women within relationships. That led me to the dating gurus. That was like a Rosetta stone! All those unexplainable behaviors made sense. Then I found some MGTOW sites and here I am.
/r/MGTOW214/03/21 06:31 PM
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Somehow I'm missing how he's not hurt and disrespected by her having an ap in the first place. Much less the specific acts she did with him.
/r/MGTOW11/03/21 03:22 PM
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The proper answer was "Yeah, but I shit standing up."
/r/MGTOW11/03/21 02:04 PM
1

Absolutely beautiful! Just what it's like everyday at work!
/r/MGTOW206/03/21 01:18 AM
1

That's the thing it's not just a general lament. There's a lot of in and out of the office and I'll be alone with one or two of them and their form of making conversation is talking about their bunions or whatever. I made the mistake of being friends with them from back in my more blue pill days. Now any withdrawal on my part is seen as an affront or sign I've got some problem. If I was starting over I'd never say a word to any of them.
/r/MGTOW205/03/21 07:53 PM
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Sometimes even the good/decent ones are that way in everything but romantic relationships. Sometimes they are good/decent but have other personality defects/mental hang-ups/religious intolerances/ physical deformations that keep them from being the thot they are inside. A fat, homely, Christian woman with crippling phobias she may actually be good/decent or she may just have no opportunity to whore around cause no one desires her so she settles for being decent. Most of the decent ones dated exc…
/r/MGTOW202/03/21 06:02 AM
2

I'm well past the rage been monk mode for years and expect to for life unless a unicorn waltzes into my life.
/r/MGTOW225/02/21 02:22 PM
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That's the way I feel. The act has become so cheapened why would you want to. It's always just your turn. I don't want a turn after so many other guys have had one. Would you feel comfortable passing a harmonica around a circle of other men and maybe some women. Or sleeping in a hotel room where they never changed the sheets or the towels.
/r/MGTOW225/02/21 03:22 AM
1

A lot depends on your age, experience and your self-validation. Is the physical contact itself or just the idea that woman wants to touch you? Realize that just because a need is there it doesn't have to be met. Alcoholics will probably always want another drink. It's overcoming your baser desires and weaknesses that free you to live to your fullness.
/r/MGTOW225/02/21 03:18 AM
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I did not hold masculine frame!
/r/MGTOW23/02/21 02:12 PM
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Had one Sh*t on me during sex. Didn't realize at first. She had been on top. We were laying there in the afterglow. I felt a sensation like something solid on my thigh. Put my hand down there and felt around. Came out from under the sheet with something firm but squishy in my hand...and brown.
/r/MGTOW22/02/21 03:29 PM
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It's not about the sex act itself though. It's all about validation and self-esteem. From fairy-tales, to Disney movies, to the high school halls to the frat house to the rock stars, the action movies, the bars and the porn. The message that above average men have hot women fall all over them is hammered home. So it's implied that even if you are gainfully employed and accomplished in your interests if you aren't pulling the notice of attractive women you are some kind of average chump or worse …
/r/MGTOW214/02/21 09:27 PM
1

I think it has to do with the lack of attractive, quality women who are single. I watched hours and hours of porn through my 40's pleasuring myself along the way and never once had an ED moment with the women I dated at the same time.
/r/MGTOW214/02/21 08:54 PM
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Friend of a friend (or relative of a friend) is the way a lot of women meet available men.
/r/MGTOW14/02/21 08:46 PM
1

I'm an artist and also live in monk mode. It's only natural to feel attracted to the female form. Artists have done that for thousands of years. Look up the Venus of Willendorf. It's only been in the post WWII era, really the last fifty years that Western society has created a philosophical framework where it's detrimental for men to be emotionally involved with women. Hopefully in the future maybe things will swing back to a better situation. There's no reason to be bitter just be aware. Suppos…
/r/MGTOW207/02/21 12:50 AM
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I know what you are talking about. I've been put repeatedly in the friendzone and the nice guy holding pen since the late seventies. As a result I'm very susceptible to sexual attention from women. I don't really want to get involved with them sexually or emotionally because on a rational and experiential level I know the outcomes aren't positive. Trying to live monk mode their are fewer women in my life, so the attention I get is amplified. There are times I can feel like a vampire with that de…
/r/MGTOW207/02/21 12:21 AM
5

Very insightful and it is where it has taken me to that introspection. I think I need to curb my insecurity and whining and adopt a more stoic life.
/r/MGTOW202/02/21 05:25 PM
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This is heartbreaking really. I would bet he is incredibly into her. These are the kind of stories that make me monk mode.
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 05:29 AM
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Usually they have issues too. I know a pretty, smart 27 year old virgin but it's because she has intimacy issues. Also know a 29 year old virgin but she is an religious intolerant. Pentecostal if you know the sect. Many other issues are out there that can make a woman appear unicorn like at first. As you look closer though it's just a damn mule with a point on it's head.
/r/MGTOW228/01/21 05:52 AM
1

Most of the unicorns I know are more like Heifers who have lost one horn.
/r/MGTOW228/01/21 05:47 AM
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Must be a doll, you can tell the eyes aren't as souless as a human woman's.
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 06:19 AM
1

Also because they are such followers. Many are on there because they've been told or read if you are single this is what you do.
/r/MGTOW23/01/21 09:12 PM
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I'd say in this day and age that's harder to arrange than no strings sex benefits. Women will give sex away or sell it but closeness or intimacy is a rare commodity.
/r/MGTOW219/01/21 02:39 AM
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I get the same way. I have a dog but she is aloof as a human woman.
/r/MGTOW218/01/21 09:44 PM
2

Absolutely This!
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 02:59 PM
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Yeah, I've got a couple of buddies who are confirmed bachelors. Don't date etc. They have no interest in women or their natures. They each had some hard romantic knocks and ice-cold rejections and they just gave up. Neither one of them wants anything to do with MGTOW though. I'm here because I couldn't make sense of women's behavior. It fascinates me to keep reading more and more experiences of men around the world and finally have a template that makes sense of it.
/r/MGTOW213/01/21 02:09 PM
1

How have you dealt with dental care and medical issues?
/r/MGTOW12/01/21 04:58 AM
4

You are correct. Something has happened in the last two years. Maybe one of their major editors or someone retired? Seems it was about the time they took down Garrison Keillor. It's no secret they were always to the left but they were fairly straightforward about it. Now they have become insufferable. All their stories and programs center on political correctness. Since the BLM movement they have concentrated on African-Americans. Before that there were more stories on Latin American immigrants.…
/r/MGTOW10/01/21 06:34 PM
14

A use of the word boob that is falling out of use. It used to be a term used to refer to a foolish or dumb person. " I feel like such a boob for falling for her seductions."
/r/MGTOW07/01/21 03:37 AM
1

True my brother. Never married, never cohabitated, no debt, living easy.
/r/MGTOW30/12/20 03:42 PM
8

Guess I wasn't bangable or bankable. LoL
/r/MGTOW30/12/20 04:14 AM
5

Go to your public library's periodical section. Look at the oldest newspapers and news magazines they have. Read the headlines and see what we all thought was going to be the end of the world six months or a year ago. Then realize how little difference most of those glaring headlines actually affected the state of things and how little effect they had on how you lived your life day to day in the past year.
/r/MGTOW230/12/20 03:58 AM
5

What age are you guys talking about? In my day around forty years ago women would literally quit talking to me in mid-sentence and walk away when I said I had no job and no motivation to do anything that society expected of me.
/r/MGTOW30/12/20 03:25 AM
5

Based on the age of Bob Hope in the pic. I'm pretty sure this is from a time the majority of men he was performing for were drafted.
/r/MGTOW220/12/20 09:12 PM
6

Great post. I've been arguing this for a while. If you are winning the woman by putting on a personality the real you loses and is rejected anyway. Then the problem is compounded if she is playing the chameleon to appeal to you. No wonder it doesn't feel natural to you if it's a relationship between two personalities neither of whom exist!
/r/MGTOW20/12/20 08:51 PM
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I think it's pretty primal. Through most of human history if your woman is with someone else you run the risk of wasting your energy and resources raising someone else's offspring. It's only in the last little bit that reliable contraception has been available. Think like paternity tests have developed in my lifetime. You may be thinking casual sex with a woman. No paternity considered, but deep down your instincts are to keep her from the genetic competition.
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 04:08 PM
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Tried that myself at one point. The sobering part is no-one likes the real you after all. The sensitive, nice, thoughtful guy all rejected in favor of a jerk...that doesn't exist, I just followed the most basic red pill directions.
/r/MGTOW08/12/20 01:52 AM
0

what gets me is women can be accomplished in their career but if you get to know them their emotional lives are as much of a wreck as laid-off trailer trash chicks.
/r/MGTOW06/12/20 04:55 PM
1

The shame is most men's toys are poor quality. People do talk about the Fleshlight more openly now. Heard some guys talking about them in a barbershop. I prefer using the back of the head of an electric toothbrush on the frenulum. If you aren't familiar with that body part you are missing out on pleasure most women don't know how to give you.
/r/MGTOW29/11/20 04:13 AM
1

For those who have really been burned in a divorce or been through some girlfriend trauma like false-rape or property destruction etc. hopefully they can move past the rage. reading this sub daily may just keep adding salt to an open wound. There's another kind of man going there own way. Ones who haven't really had anything traumatic or even that bad happen with a woman. they just haven't had anything good happen. Beta simps, AFC, incel, Nice Guys, Losers, whatever term you use. there are a who…
/r/MGTOW28/11/20 02:36 PM
11

Everyone is answering in a philosophical way. Let me lend you some practicality. I'm the last in line of my people I've watched a great many elders pass on. We've all seen too many movies where the loved one is gripping the hand as the monitor flatlines. It's not like that! With modern medicine they will have you so drugged up on morphine or another pain killer you won't know what's happening. Either that or as you go your potassium levels get out of whack and blood-oxygen drops. You will be so …
/r/MGTOW27/11/20 02:02 AM
2

Vaccines don't usually have side effect issues. You are thinking of medicines that you take for long term that cause unforeseen side-effects after an extended time.
/r/MGTOW218/11/20 07:23 AM
20

I'm kinda stuck on the "...wasn't really something I really did..." what does that mean? She pretend did it. She did it but didn't think about it? I guess it's just her figure of speech but sounds weird.
/r/MGTOW15/11/20 08:52 PM
2

You are not thinking of my teenage years. After dropping numerous quarters in Space Invaders, Defender, Asteroid, Berzerk, Dig Dug and Qix and never even getting close to putting my initials in except Qix. I was already over it by the time Nintendo came out. Besides I was an adult by then. At the time Nintendo was seen as a kids toy.
/r/MGTOW15/11/20 08:22 PM
2

Games are too sensory intense for me. I can't tell what's going on. Early 90's they came out with VR systems in the shopping malls. you had to pay a fee have this large plastic helmet snapped on your head and they gave you a controller for your hand. Another person (a stranger sometimes) was in an identical get-up. the game consisted of you moving around and trying to shoot the other player. It just lasted a few minutes. People waiting their turn could watch your game on a monitor. I played agai…
/r/MGTOW15/11/20 08:12 PM
13

Sorry, I'm 57 years old and never owned a game or system. They seem like confusing, repetitive drudgery to me. A lot of younger folk seem to be quite passionate about them. I guess they keep you out of the saloons and honky-tonks so play on!
/r/MGTOW15/11/20 06:19 AM
3

The sad part is in the end you are still rejected. No woman goes for the nice guy real you. If you ever let him show they will flee. They go for the sociopath you portray which isn't really you. So ultimately you are rejected.
/r/MGTOW12/11/20 01:48 AM
6

It's just wrong and you know you feel it inside. If nothing else it cheapens the experience for you. if she has a double digit count what could you possibly mean to her? How could you be special to her in anyway? Instead of a gourmet delight you are just another chip from the bag. All the old-fashioned things are left meaningless too, Flirting, wooing, seducing. It's not Romeo and Juliet anymore it's like screwing a stray dog.* ​ \I have never had sex with a stray dog. It's just a metaphor.)
/r/MGTOW11/11/20 01:27 AM
2

You can never tell. I've had myriad people throughout my fifty plus years reveal that their opinion of me was just the opposite of what I had assumed.
/r/MGTOW209/11/20 02:29 AM
5

A paper bag you bought your vodka in.
/r/MGTOW05/11/20 03:03 AM
6

Sometimes it's dick that makes them crazy. Seen girls act halfway sane but then they get with a guy that makes them come unglued. Don't be the guy that does that. Better to not take that chance that she's one of the fragile ones.
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 04:43 AM
1

They don't have anything to gain from losing a friend. They do get exasperated if the friend keeps pushing to make it more year after year. " Janie you're not with anybody now. Why don't you and I celebrate New Years the right way this year?" "Johnny I've told you over an over I just don't like you that way." Also friend is a different entity for most women than what a friend means to a man.
/r/MGTOW24/10/20 02:47 AM
5

From someone who got friendzoned dozens of times. There's some subtlety here that many of you are missing. Women are trained from early on if they have any class at all to be gracious and wrap their rejection in soft velvet. Many especially younger girls don't really know how to say no. A male starts talking to them in a genial way they think it's friendly. They don't flirt because they find the fellow repulsive sexually or usually not repulsive but he just doesn't give the tingles. By the time …
/r/MGTOW23/10/20 09:55 PM
1

The hardest lesson wasn't the myriad times I swooned over some undeserving, uncaring female. The pain was realizing that the whole damned idea was false. A true paradigm shift. Worse than learning the truth about Santa Claus.
/r/MGTOW23/10/20 03:57 AM
1

I'm sorry, but if there's one thing I don't understand about this sub it's the fixation on OnlyFans. I never heard of it before I started following this sub regularly. It seems to be brought up frequently. I don't see what the problem is? Why don't you just ignore it? I'm older so maybe I'm just out of the loop. If someone wants to hip me too why it's so devastating to so many of you feel free.
/r/MGTOW23/10/20 03:35 AM
1

Is her music any good? Or is this her talentless dream he is totally bankrolling?
/r/MGTOW218/10/20 11:38 PM
2

Not like you got from your mother which many men expect. Not like you see in the movies which many men crave.
/r/MGTOW17/10/20 04:15 PM
3

I'm more sorry for the one actually named Thundercock. :/
/r/MGTOW16/10/20 04:50 AM
2

This is the best, most level-headed, clear explanation of the manosphere I've ever read! Thank you so much for posting it. I like what you said about MGTOW becoming dogma. There was always something bothering me about it and you brought it to light. I'm curious now. If none of the pills quite work, what path forward do you see and suggest?
/r/MGTOW215/10/20 03:10 PM
6

The story I read was that she worked in a brothel in Asia (Bangkok maybe) for a time and learned incredible secret sex techniques one so powerful it was said it could make a corpse ejaculate.
/r/MGTOW14/10/20 02:57 AM
1

If she blacked-out how does she know it was that dude?
/r/MGTOW13/10/20 04:08 PM
2

She may or may not have herpes. If you gave her the tingles she wouldn't have let that stop her. When it comes to rejection girls will give you any story but the truth. That she had to wait a bit to tell you makes me think she was busy trying to gin up the best excuse. Your response should have been "Oh yeah, I have it!" "I'll get you my test report if you want it." You would have seen the smoke from her ears as that little hamster burned up trying to get out of that one. If she was telling the …
/r/MGTOW13/10/20 04:01 PM
2

It sounds like you have sensitive heart like I do. There are just so many tricks they pull. Crying and talking in a little girl voice and pouting and more crying. Hard to resist all that. Then they are such chameleons. One will have you so convinced she is cool and easy-going as a guy is. Be careful man it's the camels nose under the tent.
/r/MGTOW209/10/20 03:34 AM
13

Pretty sad, all of those shots save one are with the Meagan and she looks like a cat that ate the canary in every one of them.
/r/MGTOW08/10/20 03:30 PM
14

Dress like an old coot. I switched to suspenders and women never look twice. I added cardigan sweaters and they don't look once.
/r/MGTOW05/10/20 12:56 PM
6

Good post brother. A message many of us need to hear. I have a couple buddies who are terrible with women. Nothing but misery and years long dry spells. We used to sit and commiserate for hours and ponder what was wrong with us and try to understand women. After I started my red pill journey I was on fire with a new attitude. I thought this is what my buddies need to hear. I was so wrong. I was met with absolute hostility. One of them still has some bitterness towards me. He thinks I'm some sort…
/r/MGTOW05/10/20 01:55 AM
7

Honestly for me (this will make me sound like the biggest simp...but I was) when I got involved with women it was about the validation. The sex was just the highest expression of that validation. It fed on multiple levels including male validation " Dude, did you score with that hot chick last night? Awesome bro, you da man." Now that I have learned to believe in and love myself I don't need the sexual contact to feel fulfilled. Masturbation feels good and I avoid all that social interaction tha…
/r/MGTOW05/10/20 01:06 AM
1

See what I mean.
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 01:14 PM
0

I've been criticized more in MGTOW2 than in MGTOW?
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 05:31 AM
6

Blue pills with a red pill coating to protect your tummy.
/r/MGTOW03/10/20 02:04 PM
3

Everyone seems to have this confused. Get cold-brewed coffee for your Keurig and make HOT coffee with it. Smoothest coffee you will ever drink! Also a French press makes good coffee.
/r/MGTOW28/09/20 02:39 PM
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Even a woman who is pure in heart and says her prayers by night may become a thot when the Chad schlong blooms and his money is right.” * I wish you well, I really do. However so much changes over time. A woman can change like the wind but even a man can change. With time you may find what you once loved about her is what you rue the most. If you talk to some of us older guys you will hear the stories of surprise and disappointment and regret. As someone who pulled a good girl right out of her d…
/r/MGTOW228/09/20 03:47 AM
2

The Man Who Would Be King is one of the most MGTOW movies ever made. Sean Connery and Michael Caine real life buddies play two veteran British soldiers that set out to conquer an undiscovered country. It's all great till a woman gets in the mix. Then one of them stays MGTOW but the other goes simp and it all falls apart. They don't make movies like this anymore. They barely did then. Also by the same director. The Maltese Falcon. Humphrey Bogart as Sam Spade is the template for a red pill man. W…
/r/MGTOW22/09/20 02:29 PM
5

Tattoos on men are as big a red flag to me as the ones on women. Poor impulse control, attention seeking, herd mentality, need to be tribal instead of individualistic and more. I avoid tatted men.
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 02:29 PM
1

I second that! Immediately subscribed to huMAN.
/r/MGTOW21/09/20 02:17 AM
11

" bj skills sucked " I see what you did there! :D
/r/MGTOW17/09/20 02:58 PM
3

Sounds like stress. If all those tests are coming back normal. I went through a similar thing at around your age. You involuntarily tense muscles without realizing it. They get sore. In my case it was globus. Thought for sure I had some sort of obstruction in my throat or was developing a goiter or something. Turns out I was clenching muscles in my neck. Had to change my life around a little and just be aware of it. I know I clench my chest, back, shoulder muscles. Some days after a bad work day…
/r/MGTOW17/09/20 04:33 AM
1

You're getting there. Yes, basically that's the sensation/muscle movement you should strive for.
/r/seduction17/09/20 03:24 AM
2

You need to reassure him you aren't gay. If you aren't dating, dads get worried they have raised a gay son. When I was your age I didn't date. Not much money, poor dating pool where I lived etc. I had a buddy that was in the same boat. This guy wasn't exactly feminine but he wasn't a man's man either. i think it would give my dad anxiety that we were gay lovers or going to become gay lovers out of desperation or something.
/r/MGTOW15/09/20 02:39 PM
3

Sometimes you still fall for it. Been trying to monk mode for the last four years. A little gal got under my skin at work. She's always going on about how she doesn't text anyone, she's introverted, social anxiety etc. Trying to tell myself her lack of reciprocating is her personal quirk...end result is the same though-I'm home alone. Thanks OP for the reminder that it's actions not words.
/r/MGTOW14/09/20 03:21 PM
14

They really don't have time. They are constantly being invited, asked out, tweeted, texted, called eyc. Never really get a chance to develop a personality.
/r/MGTOW10/09/20 04:48 AM
4

Wonder how shitty the other man feels? Because he couldn't keep it in his pants one person is dead and one's life is effectively over. Still, she had probably filled his head with horror stories of how badly she'd been treated, ignored, threatened whatever. Never believe woman's victim tales if she is trying to gain something from you.
/r/MGTOW08/09/20 07:19 PM
2

POF has a qualifier for weight. Think it said something like: would you be willing to date someone who is BBW?
/r/MGTOW08/09/20 07:08 PM
1

I was similar to you. Virginal at that age full of self-loathing and doubt. Wasting the majority of my youth feeling sorry for myself. If you really don't think you can go without then study up on PUA and seduction material. It feels shallow but it works on shallow women and better quality women alike. Once you get your mind around the concepts you'll see that women respond to your techniques the same way pretty much interchangeably. Then they aren't so interesting anymore and you won't want one…
/r/MGTOW208/09/20 07:01 PM
7

You didn't actually specify that you are a male...Are you at least wearing a sports bra as you run past?
/r/MGTOW06/09/20 11:42 PM
5

Read any romance. Like Beauty and the Beast. Men's natural tendency is to go their own way. A woman's fantasy is that her beauty, charm, sex-appeal, sweetness, loving nature will be the thing to reign in his willful nature and make him a tame, obedient servant. Thugs have low impulse control and never really learn societal rules. So it's a real challenge for a woman to tame one of these men (usually doesn't take.).
/r/MGTOW06/09/20 04:30 PM
2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_castration#:~:text=Chemical%20castration%20is%20castration%20via,it%20a%20form%20of%20sterilization.
/r/MGTOW06/09/20 03:39 AM
2

I could never get along with women till my married friends started having children. I started treating women the way I learned to treat children and things got better.
/r/MGTOW06/09/20 03:35 AM
3

On one level, the first time I shaved. On another level I'm 57 and still not there.
/r/MGTOW203/09/20 02:22 PM
5

I consider it for LIFE. I never again want to get caught up in women's shenanigans and machinations. I don't ever want to give my internal compass away seeking female validation. I was never hip or cool or popular and don't care now. I'm free from societies tricks and turns. Happy in my solitude and isolation. If that's not monk mode then just call me a crusty old bitter hermit. Or simply a curmudgeon.
/r/askTRP31/08/20 03:09 AM
5

That's because that's where the money is. You always hear about little old ladies giving their life savings( probably their late husbands hard work) to a TV preacher. You never hear about a little old man doing that. He knows how much he had to work and sacrifice for it.
/r/MGTOW31/08/20 02:46 AM
1

Trying to stay there. I was so content.
/r/askTRP31/08/20 02:09 AM
2

I didn't care for several years. Have worked with this woman over ten years. So no real illusions or mystery.
/r/askTRP31/08/20 02:08 AM
1

Thanks Man, Real monks had the advantage of cloistering away from women and the vapid parts of society too. I think awareness of where your mind is going is the right step. be strong.
/r/MGTOW231/08/20 02:05 AM
5

We had a relationship, she's now married to some other guy. We can tolerate each other, never speak of the past.
/r/MGTOW231/08/20 02:03 AM
6

I may have used the wrong term. I think what they call it on this forum is monk mode. I'd been successfully in monk mode for several years. I suppose ghosting means suddenly dropping contact with someone.
/r/MGTOW230/08/20 08:38 PM
1

NOT the kegel, it's the reverse kegel. For years I read kegels and it just seemed to make it worse. It's the opposite look up reverse kegel.
/r/seduction30/08/20 01:44 PM
4

How old are you? The first thing to realize is the desire to mate is hard-wired into you. Choosing to be MGTOW isn't about the cessation of those desires. It's about your will being stronger than your desires. going your way, not society's, not a woman's and not nature's. The fact this is coming out in your subconscious dreams means you are probably keeping it corralled in your waking life. It's fine for you to dream as much as you want. Daydream, write out your fantasies, whatever. Be aware it'…
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 02:02 PM
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I think that pretty much covers all the reasons. You answered your own question.
/r/MGTOW29/08/20 03:18 AM
5

Master and Commander Zulu Flight of the Phoenix (original with Jimmy Stewart) All films where men are too busy living male lives to have any women or romance involved. The Maltese Falcon: Humphrey Bogart as Sam Spade going his own way! His final scene with the heroine where you expect to see the romantic ending is not to be missed! That is how you deal with a woman!!! ​ The Man who Would Be King: not only a great adventure yarn. It's also the movie where real life mates Sean Connery and Michael …
/r/MGTOW220/08/20 04:24 AM
2

56 been going my way, red pill aware for 5 years. Never been happier. The only female who crosses my threshold is my little dog and even she is an entitled bitch some days.
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 12:14 PM
8

Better than that, tell her the wrong solutions. You know she is not giving you credit for your input but taking all the credit herself.
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 11:44 PM
5

I self-identify as a misogynist...what's the problem?
/r/MGTOW14/09/19 05:24 AM
1

How do you get past meth, pot, liquor, big macs, cigarettes etc. ? There are many not so good for us temptations that lure us all day long. Once you get the concept that pussy is a short-term pleasure with long-term negative consequences and learn to steer your life by your internal guidance you'll breeze past those temporal distractions.
/r/MGTOW06/09/19 02:30 PM
4

I'm old enough to have started shaving when safety razors were all there was. trust me at least 3 blades and the most important thing a pivoting head is a vast improvement.
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 12:34 AM
1

I've had huge fights with people over that film. I can't believe those two contract killers who would go to so much trouble to make the one guys murder look like a heart attack. Then turn around and blow up Clayton's car, an obvious murder attempt...and also fail at it! Ruins the whole story for me.
/r/MGTOW03/08/19 10:36 PM
1

When do I get my money for the Normans invading and taking over the lives of my Saxon ancestors in 1066 ? I feel oppressed.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 01:00 PM
1

I'd think the majority of their sales are to women anyway. Wives, partners, mothers do the domestic shopping. Most men probably don't even know what razor they have. Gillette I'm sure has done massive research before that ad ever got green-lighted. All the flash and color and fancy names are all things marketed at female consumers.
/r/MGTOW13/06/19 02:54 PM
1

I learned to get over the bitterness and the hate but still I love coming here to read all the memes and the hilarious and painful comments. I don't feel so alone in the world to know there are men like me out there. I comforts me and gives me the strength to face that hen house of an office I work in and not give a care about their women issues.
/r/MGTOW25/04/19 12:52 AM
1

I work with a Pentecostal woman. She wears no make-up and is actually very pretty in the face. However she doesn't shave her legs or pits never wears pants or shorts and denies evolution....
/r/MGTOW12/03/19 04:32 PM
1

If you are talking about agape over eros I think you will be fine. It's a positive thing to base your life on and part of the western tradition.
/r/MGTOW209/03/19 05:57 AM
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