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so awesome! Thank you.
/r/seduction19/08/12 12:23 AM
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you dont want to bang co workers anyway unless you REALLY dont care about the job... but guess what - they have friends so create opportunities where your coworkers will be inclined to bring their friends to - such as weekly or even bi-weekly happy hours or some such activity :)
/r/seduction26/07/12 01:49 AM
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THIS. You're not giving us any info that we could do something with. Given the info you provided though - id say do the following Start a log of each approach. Find similarities/patterns isolate what works what doesnt learn to work 3 steps ahead (meaning: you open - it can go 1 of 3 ways (neutral/positive/negative) you need to have a plan for each - based on the plan there should be another set expected results etc) try something other than DAY Game, and try different venues, try on captive audi…
/r/seduction17/06/12 07:26 PM
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its both. You're being very linear and logical. And theres no reason for that in a bar. After the first 2 sentences - you can just start telling a story. Preferrably about something you're passionate about, but also one that will make the other people laugh (hopefully not too much at YOUR expense). There's a ton of stuff on line about patterns, and routines. Read them all. AND REMEMBER - THEY ARE EXAMPLES!!! NOT STUFF TO MINDLESSLY REPEAT. Analyze it for structure sub communication, then create …
/r/seduction09/06/12 05:07 PM
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well written!! Thanks
/r/seduction14/05/12 07:48 AM
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not sure why this got downvoted, this is not bad, but there's more to it than just words - this has to come from a place of total authority, almost like a cop at a crime scene... its a lighthearted deflection
/r/seduction13/05/12 12:07 AM
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You can manipulate your mind, and brain chemistry without resorting to chemicals, meditation, working out / running (few miles)/yoga/martial arts/whatever you're into ... before going out - will flood your brain with enough serotonin that you will need to last you a few hours, and its better than messing with the pharmaceuticals. My approach is to try everything before starting on the meds.
/r/seduction01/05/12 08:24 PM
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I feel awkward at a bar because I don't have a drink and therefore have no real purpose being there. Stop. Everything after the first 3 words is just you justifying a choice you made (more specifically - not so much YOU - as your mind - engaging in a cognitive bias, where your mind justifies its own shitty tendencies to itself - meditation can help w/ this). I've had a friend who was in straight edge punk band - that guy seemed to never be awkward, and always partied harder than almost anyone i …
/r/seduction01/05/12 08:18 PM
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I love this concept of playing with another person to see can you get her to liking you, it's not even the sex that really excites me, THIS IS HUGE. Thats a big part of inner game. And doing it for lulz and being outcome independent is what separates the pros from amateurs who drop out as soon as they can get an ltr. it's the game on it's own, but I'm totally inexperienced in "talking to girls" as my previous relationships usually started more naturally and slowly, and like I said I don't go out…
/r/seduction01/05/12 06:43 PM
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be a fun guy - and keep the sexual tension going. tread her like a little sister and say things "omg you're just soooo adorable, im adopting you as my little sister." at other times say things like - "wow i love you - you're awesome too bad im not attracted to you thought - ill tell you what though - i will help you get guys, you can help me get girls - we'll be unstoppable - like those kids from "dangerous liaisons"" obviously say this as a joke but the intent will come thru.
/r/seduction05/10/10 04:29 AM
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While its good you got the numbers - realize - that numbers mean very VERY little. It sounds like you made getting numbers your goal and succeeded. Thats good. But its not getting laid. Keep getting the numbers but now concentrate on getting follow thru - so for one - start working on making the GIRL ASK FOR YOUR NUMBER (oh and by the way even in those cases it will be really hard to get them not to flake). Making a compelling enough case for her to WANT to hang out with you again. Finally work …
/r/seduction05/10/10 04:20 AM
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disregard your friends. If you were an afc, and they are afc's, you're on the cusp of breaking thru and changing your personality, this - they find very threatening on a very deep subconscious level. Humans seek status quo. EDIT: furthermore - commit to doing some creepy things. You're not fulfilling your potential unless you're pushing boundaries.
/r/seduction05/10/10 12:41 AM
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bang her at her place. Dude. This is your mind telling you stories that your subconscious likes. Stop it. I banged more girls when i was in school and living w/ parents, then after i moved out (most of which happened not my home where i lived with parents).... You can still go out, you can still meet girls, you can still take them to your place, but bang them at their place. The very least you can do - is - run your whole game till you get rejected due to logistics. This will still be better for…
/r/seduction16/09/10 04:04 AM
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You have a warm presence.
/r/seduction16/09/10 02:18 AM
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The so called community is full of mechanical bulls, that are all in their head about this shit. While the book is somewhat to blame. You'd be better off taking the responsibility for what happened to you. Not sure how old you are but take this experience - as a lesson about YOURSELF. Instead of forcing your reality to conform to the book, you should have used the book a as a filter thru which to reflect upon your stories. Anyway - if you're honest, you should have little problems blocking out i…
/r/seduction16/09/10 02:10 AM
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Stop. There are dudes in trailer parks having threesomes right now. Forget about being a prospect. You're fucking YOU. You're a student. You're fun. You're young. You're adventure. You're no regrets. You're the shit. Your life's in front of you. YOU ARE SEX. (substitute all the adjectives and nouns as appropriate and as fits). EDIT: more seriously - find your passion and live it. At this point in time in your life you can do literally anything some things are more expensive than others but its a…
/r/seduction16/09/10 01:58 AM
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there's always a risk. work on your creativity/expressiveness every story can be told honestly in a 1000 different ways (look up antoine dodson, and pay attention TO HIM and HIS sister, now its his sister that the story happened to, but he is the viral celebrity.) Look at good stand up comedy vs bad stand up comedy - the differences are so minute its impossible to overemphasize.
/r/seduction16/09/10 01:55 AM
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Stay present in reality (meaning dont go in your own mind), pay attention, get them talking.
/r/seduction16/09/10 01:52 AM
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warpcowboy is 100% right on except he is going over your head, you really need to internalize something thats just much more basic then hello. Your assignment (besides taking an improv class) is to talk to as many customer service personnel (captives) you possibly can about something other than transaction youre making, weather, your head ache, how awesome will be that gum you're buying, how you like their blue uniforms, how you HATE their blue uniforms (too advanced for you - but its a good cha…
/r/seduction16/09/10 01:42 AM
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thinking too much. why would you say hi?
/r/seduction16/09/10 01:38 AM
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dude you have bigger problems than approaching. Take an improv-acting/improv-comedy class (or even a short workshop) ASAP. I'm serious. Dont wonder. Dont research. Dont question my suggestion. Just do it. Thank me later. I was like you once. Anything i tell you - except for the preceding suggestion wont make much sense. You wont logic your way out of this one - its a right brain thing, its illogical. Youll understand once you've been doing improv for a few months.
/r/seduction16/09/10 01:35 AM
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you are not congruent. get congruent. do this by TALKING TO EVERYONE. ALL THE TIME. No matter where you go your job is to brighten at least one persons day with your words. Do this with ALL service personnel you interact. Do this with all people around you like people in lines, or people walking around in the mall or wherever. Dont just talk to sexually attractive women, talk to old ladies, dudes, old dudes, kids, moms, dads, talk to people pets for godssake, and compliment. Do your best to brin…
/r/seduction14/09/10 11:09 PM
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glad i can help :)
/r/seduction08/09/10 11:57 PM
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sure no worries. (a) dont over do it - with too much woo not enough intent (b) only neg when its natural
/r/seduction04/09/10 09:52 PM
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dont worry about negging at this point. Youre in comfort building and closing stages now.
/r/seduction04/09/10 08:38 PM
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outside of school is not bad :) its a minor detail.
/r/seduction04/09/10 08:37 PM
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OKC publishes a ton of data on how to optimize your profile on their blog. Also - okc is not preferable for guys. You really need to just go out and meet people, on line thing is a bit too passive, you may have some good hits but it wont be as easy as it will be for your x, thats ok though :) its better in the real world anyway
/r/seduction04/09/10 02:17 AM
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Yes. Good thinking. Go out w/ her to the bowling thing or whatever, TREAT HER LIKE A LITTLE SISTER. Use plenty of kino, and rough housing, assume rapport - and act towards her like you would to a really good childhood friend, as long as she is digging it which i think she will. As soon as practical - tell her you find her awesome and adorable and you want her to be your little sister. It might hurt her feelings a bit but you can joke around and tell her you'll help her meet more guys ;) Definite…
/r/seduction04/09/10 01:06 AM
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in this context i wasn't necessarily talking about DHVing. I was referring to the fact that if you're not present in the situation, and making it better, you're taking the value out of the situation by looking to get something out of a situation that will benefit you, for example if you have an awesome joke that you've been trying to tell - because it will be soo awesome when everyone laughs and thinks youre a funny guy, and will like you more, basically you're taking value - because youre in yo…
/r/seduction04/09/10 01:02 AM
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Its a bit hard to estimate exact emotional content of this conversation - but - id say you're revealing a bit too much to her... If you're not sure if you're DHVing or DLVing then you're probably DLVing... Anyway - you need to completely reframe how she views you - this is not easy because you need to really change your reality... YOUR GOAL - is to start continually surprising her, and make her feel like she totally misjudged you. You need to be seen with beautiful girls, and she needs to be tol…
/r/seduction04/09/10 12:15 AM
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dance classes, yoga classes, hiking/outdoors groups, book clubs, churches, improv classes, cooking classes, online, on the street, in the mall.
/r/seduction03/09/10 10:44 PM
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I would definitely not call. I would possibly text - and be pretty straightforward but fun in the message. Ideally - you can let her know via text that you'll be doing something and can include her in the activity, example: "hey im going to get some jasmine tea at the TeaBag central, if you never had it - you're missing out ... big time, join me there - dont let me drink alone... even if it is tea" something like that (notice how 1. shes mostly an afterthought in your plan)
/r/seduction03/09/10 10:40 PM
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Yes its a bit creepy - not because you're creepy but because most women tend to be a bit more safety conscious than most guys - but not always. Anyway - id text and include my name and some reference to how we met.
/r/seduction03/09/10 10:38 PM
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create opportunities for her to kino you, this includes but not limited to sitting closer to her, giving her a hug hello, high fiving when you make a juvenile or a bad pun based joke etc... when you're out, dont overly focus on her, or create a date vibe, create a fun being out vibe, talk to other people, be fun outgoing and comfortable. entertain yourself and enjoy the moment even if its not going how you expect/planned - in fact especially then bring value without supplicating - dont be a valu…
/r/seduction03/09/10 10:33 PM
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yes
/r/seduction03/09/10 05:44 AM
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no body shot necessary - i got the general idea :), i wouldnt say it changed that much - but i feel like i have a bit more of a context - which may make my advice clearer, i know some girls that look like you :). I'd say if you like being direct and feel like being coy would be too forced thats perfectly fine, you just need to be around more guys you REALLY LIKE vs settling
/r/seduction03/09/10 05:31 AM
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haha - ok, generally speaking, "seduction community" (its actually more of an industry now), with very few exception is a collection of nerds or former nerds who for one reason or another couldnt score - that produced bitterness - so much of the stuff will always come off sounding like an attack, dont take it personally, afc guys get the same crap :). With regards to what you listed - sounds good :), personally gym for me is a necessary evil, id rather do athletic activities that dont make me fe…
/r/seduction03/09/10 05:28 AM
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so - do you feel like you got your answers here?
/r/seduction03/09/10 05:09 AM
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:)thanks. and hello.
/r/seduction03/09/10 05:05 AM
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not sure why this got downvoted - while there is generic level of advice can be more or less safely dispensed... But especially with girl game - the advice may change dramatically depending on the appearance - guys are just much more appearance centered. Also you dont actually need to provide your own photos - you can provide a celebrity that closely resembles your type... etc
/r/seduction03/09/10 02:01 AM
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strong willed hedonist women are all busy not being available so the filtering is no challenge
/r/seduction03/09/10 01:51 AM
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if it actually does - that wasnt bad...
/r/seduction02/09/10 11:01 PM
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im no authority on this - but where i think most guys get this wrong is - when they treat it as conversation with one of their guy friends and talking linearly about logical things, on IM you need to be kind of like a character in a soap opera or a cosmo story, reveal little content, but it should all be emotional charged and dramatic, also your main goal should be get her out so do things like telling her where youll be (close to her place) she should come out for a drink of she wants etc (ex. …
/r/seduction02/09/10 07:27 PM
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cant disagree here... oneitis will kill you... so definitely keep your options open, and actively engage other girls - its actually easy, and surprisingly with her around its even easier because she will be subcommunicating her interest and that will make other girls more interested
/r/seduction02/09/10 06:34 PM
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yeah if you're going that route - make sure to follow thru on the last part, and ideally you want a mutual friend to tell her how many chicks you're banging in a non forced manner...
/r/seduction02/09/10 06:30 PM
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The short answer is probably yes - too confrontational. Generally i dont like directly addressing the issue with girls unless its so glaring its ridiculous, even then you give up some leverage if you're doing it directly. Women get this instinctively - thats why most relationship fights are about dumb bullshit on the surface but always about resource allocation/attention/affection/status. Then again - often, girls do like being called on their shit, sometimes they might dislike it in the moment …
/r/seduction02/09/10 05:02 PM
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Disregard what she self confesses to. Only asses her on her TRACK RECORD. If she makes guys work for it - make her feel like you're a. not objectifying her b. are in theory willing to put in effort c. keep plowing, escalating, and isolating her. AND THIS ONES IMPORTANT DUDE - KEEP YOUR STATE UP. Youre falling apart and opting for rejection, when she is not reacting to contact???? Here's some insight she is a. noticing it. b. digging it. If she didnt she'd put a very swift stop to it. So to reite…
/r/seduction02/09/10 07:09 AM
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got it. well i dont know where to place the phone sex - b/c its really not my thing, but i guess it takes a certain amount of vulnerability to do it so its a good sign. IF you wanted to pursue it - without knowing more about you and him, in generic terms id say you need to create a bunch of opportunities for him to (a) spend more time with you (b) declare a bit more intent. This means its up to you to create multiple opportunities a few of which he may miss - or he may not, but unless youre into…
/r/seduction02/09/10 07:02 AM
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its a small hoop, not a huge shit test. I wouldnt worry about it - but i would expect her to balance it out, if i didnt see the effort on her part to balance it out id pull back...
/r/seduction02/09/10 06:48 AM
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youre in the right place. good story - glad it worked out in your favor and you didnt lose :)
/r/seduction02/09/10 06:43 AM
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your post is too vague you really need to be more specific about what you mean by 3s and 4s, also what you mean by "good time". Generally speaking - theyll be much more suspicious, much less outgoing, much more logical, and probably will be inclined to sabotage most attempts at having a good time, because they have much less experience with letting a guy control their frame and getting emotionally swept up with his personality/attitude/game etc... Having said all that - quite often if you raised…
/r/seduction02/09/10 06:32 AM
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If you want to pursue it - do. What is going on with him? Thats not such a relevant question as whats going on with you :) What do you mean when you say "tho not for lack of opportunity" as in - how do you know? from his stories?
/r/seduction02/09/10 06:24 AM
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should you have waited longer - impossible to tell but probably not. Dont question yourself on this one. Should you give her a call? yeah why not. If she does not respond - i personally doubt she'll pick up, hope you have some killer voice mail game... if she does go on the 2nd date dont let her freak you out again if it happens acknowledge it and be cool about it.
/r/seduction02/09/10 06:23 AM
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well touche
/r/seduction02/09/10 06:08 AM
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Personally i disagree, but its very possible that im an exception rather than the rule.
/r/seduction02/09/10 01:20 AM
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'doh that name's taken :) Short answer: when you run into the guys you're really have a thing for - 'act as if' they're the guys that you're kind of ehh about. Long answer - dont settle, but go for what you feel like you really want, youre better off hanging out by yourself than banging a guy just to kill time waiting for something better to come along. Its good that you're into the academic type - i sort of suspect that you have a similar problem as many of the dude afc's, who just dont get eno…
/r/seduction02/09/10 01:17 AM
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Most guy's dont want an ugly fat girl just b/c she is playing hard to get...
/r/seduction01/09/10 04:22 PM
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Just out of curiosity who are the ones you're always interested in? what do you find attractive? Im no fan of armchair psychology but - its possible you're sabotaging your efforts here - just basing that on your description so far. Corollary question - do you get unwanted attention from guys/girls you're really NOT attracted to?? What is the basis for that attention if you do?
/r/seduction01/09/10 07:17 AM
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Specifically for orientation - make friends fast, be quick and be funny, orientations are awesome for establishing a college group of friends who will be very conducive for PU later. While you can PU at the orientation because everyone's on equal footing, in my experience the cutest girl i met at orientation was awesome pivot because later i met many of her hot friends.
/r/seduction01/09/10 03:45 AM
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At intent (youre a tease if you create - facilitate sexual situations but dont put out). And at sex (you're a slut if you bang everyone). had 2 long term GFs that started as a 1st night lay so depends on person (the attraction was pretty mutual from get go). But also been with girls with whom myself had no intent of pursuing any sort of relationship after first night hookup (they were probably more attracted to me than I to them, and they were more horny, also i found them to be more objectionab…
/r/seduction01/09/10 01:54 AM
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Say the first thing that comes to mind. Deal with it later. If you say something weird you just got yourself some time to explain yourself, if you say something boring and she likes you she'll pick up the thread... etc SAY SOMETHING ALL THE TIMES... to get better at this talk to every one you possibly can... Or take an improv class...
/r/seduction31/08/10 01:39 AM
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its just really good for you...
/r/seduction31/08/10 01:32 AM
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yeah it definitely can be more hassle than its worth... also a bad pivot can sabotage your efforts..
/r/seduction31/08/10 01:29 AM
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depends on the situation. You could either ignore and move on, or you could acknowledge it and see if you can move on.
/r/seduction30/08/10 05:30 AM
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I could (but wouldn't..) start a convo with a girl in my bus, in the library, or a random girl waiting for the train with me, but that would be just downright creepy Why? are you sure? If you can - do. If you say you wouldn't - then you cant. If you dont know how to do it in a non creepy way then you're not asking the right question here.
/r/seduction30/08/10 05:24 AM
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Be fun, outgoing, act like YOU'RE the shiz. You're the DJ she's the hypeman.
/r/seduction30/08/10 05:22 AM
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Yoga class. Gym. Dance class. Any sports club. Meditation class. Grocery store. Also you're being too linear - meet some guys, meet their friends, then their GF's, sisters, friends, who in turn will allow you to meet girls in a natural organic setting.
/r/seduction30/08/10 05:21 AM
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I think you're looking at this from too broad of a perspective - namely you may have come off submissive/lower status at only one point and thats when you took a step back, thats kind like what a waiter does at a fancy restaurant after he brings everything, and asks if theres anything else he/she can do? 2. Having said that, there was very few things you could've done differently - to do the hand off, so its not bad. 3. One thing you could've done differently was to somehow round them and organi…
/r/seduction30/08/10 05:18 AM
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If i were you - i would (1) change my outlook - to not see if she'd go farther with me but, to see if i can make her into an awesome pivot (2) realize that she's a bit of an attention whore and use it to further my aim (3) Use all PU tools in my disposal to create attraction and interest then, once out with her use the newly generated rapport and synergy to meet and befriend new interesting and beautiful women who will not potentially sue the company for sexual harassment. But thats just me.
/r/seduction30/08/10 05:07 AM
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you'd want to because a presence of an attractive woman, makes you more attractive to other women. You'd use her :) Kinda like she failed to use you :)
/r/seduction30/08/10 05:00 AM
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what exactly was your goal?? Nail a coworker? Unless you hate your job - id say its a bad idea. Having said all that - if you're in that situation - going dancing is not usually the best move - though dancing is not really dancing - if it can be used as an excuse for you to get her to do shots long enough to lower her asd. Thats however not the most awesome method from Art perspective of PUA. So what you could have done is gone over to her group, become the center of it while going along with th…
/r/seduction29/08/10 12:04 AM
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that was much closer to an insult than a nag... having said that he let it go on way to long... also he is a caricature...
/r/seduction28/08/10 11:59 PM
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good. keep it up. additional bonus would be - if you could pivot the 9 now or in future.
/r/seduction28/08/10 11:57 PM
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agreed
/r/seduction28/08/10 11:52 PM
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First your frame's already totally defeatist. You already made a decision to not be open to this set of opportunities. But the advice still may help others: so #1 do something i call - "inoculation" if you're talking to the friend of the friend or gf and afraid that notes will be compared - preempt it by being honest and acknowledging this awareness say - "I know that you and suzy are friends, and, obviously we have a history, she's not wrong when she's inclined to call me ____ or tell you about…
/r/seduction28/08/10 07:29 PM
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not only are americans considered cute in a bunch countries, they're considered a ticket out of a shitty situation, this you can use for your benefit
/r/seduction28/08/10 07:22 PM
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dude - you need to start talking TO EVERYONE YOU POSSIBLY CAN. Become the chattiest guy you know, short of becoming obnoxious. Keep in mind - IT IS YOUR JOB TO BRING VALUE. This is not about just talking to girls, its about talking to everyone, start by commenting on weather, and common stuff that people will relate to, if youre inline and its longer than normal talk about it, if its shorter talk about it, talk to all customer service reps you run into, try to make their day better somehow. Once…
/r/seduction28/08/10 07:20 PM
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grab her hands at the wrists, assertively but not in a rapey way, and use her hands to play hit herself (not to hard), keep asking her why she loves hitting herself as you do this. Also you can put your arm around her, but if she is being rowdy transition into a headlock and give her a mini noogie, not enough to hurt her, but enough to mess up her hair a bit. when done - say something like - see - the first version is much more fun isnt it. DO THIS WITH HUMOR AND AS A JOKE ONLY. Last part is mos…
/r/seduction28/08/10 07:14 PM
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The following is more of an inner game/coaching statement: but basically, you need to let go of being in control. If a better PUA rolls up on you, MAINTAIN POSITIVE STATE. Go into the role of a student, keep having fun, watch what he does. Go home and analyze everything later, what you did well, what he did well, what you could do better etc.
/r/seduction26/08/10 04:27 AM
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Id say that you dont need to pay any money for any of this stuff unless you honestly gave it 100% and made no progress.
/r/seduction24/08/10 01:42 AM
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ha haa so true but used car salesmen are all lecherous... though its amazing how much seduction and sales have in common
/r/seduction24/08/10 01:39 AM
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with regards to stalling game - watch ira glass youtube videos on story telling, and seek other sources that will teach you how to be more compelling interesting person
/r/seduction23/08/10 07:17 AM
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this cant be overemphasized - it really all there is to it. When they say talk to more people they mean ALL people - old grandmas, little kids, soccer moms, here's a fun exercise - go into a supermarket or whatever and whne you're checking out and paying for your stuff - make the cashiers day better, without being a supplicating douche about it.
/r/seduction23/08/10 07:16 AM
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Short answer all and none. Long answer: I've started with NLP and SS, and it has worked for me. Most people these days are totally skeptical of NLP. With good reason, there are better tools there now. I've learned one thing - technique doesnt matter. What matters is - what it does for you. If you cant run an NLP routine and be 100% congruent, it wont work unless the girl's into you already. But if she doesnt like you and you're 100% congruent and invested into your routine, you probably will tur…
/r/seduction23/08/10 07:11 AM
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I call this a marketing problem - just know that there's a group of people who are intensely into exactly what you are. You may not be into them, but they're out there. Every time i learn of a new fetish im blown away that there's an entire population thats "into" that.
/r/seduction23/08/10 07:02 AM
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healthy looking hair :) it does not at all need to be perfectly styled and blow dried. Some dudes like girls with dreads but most id venture to say dont. Also hair that makes you feel the best, this is pretty huge - even if you shave it - BUT LOVE IT - it will show and be attractive on you :) if you pay attention you'll always hear people making weird comments about how they generally dont like something but really like it in some specific instance -- like "im really not int big butts but J LO's…
/r/seduction23/08/10 06:58 AM
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^^ Yes! that exactly nails what i was trying to say when i said situation dictates the rules. I agree completely, if you want to buy drinks and make it work for you, become the guy that buys drinks, its not like no guy that's every bought a girl a drink hasnt gotten laid... having said that its a rule for a reason, and that reason's important to understand :)
/r/seduction23/08/10 06:31 AM
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Ah the beauty of the written form... You're right though, its an insult, however - by isolating yourself from the comment, you give yourself plausible deniability clearly - delivery here is key. You wouldnt just drop it on her had - with rapid fire deliver "you're a whore! thats what my sister told me" you'd finesse it in "haha.. sounds good... want to her something weird? Nah never mind... well fine ill tell you but dont hold it against me.... My sister.. are you sure you want to hear this? OK …
/r/seduction23/08/10 06:25 AM
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i agree with working to build attraction and putting her in a position of making all the moves, in my experience though, this is advanced game. Knowing how to escalate, and isolate, are incredibly important skills to build. One of the best PUAs i know, calls this "dismantling the bomb" what it refers to in general is - encountering resistance at every turn and always being ON and always working, this is where your skills truly get tested, this what separates PUAs from guys that are normal (a nor…
/r/seduction23/08/10 06:20 AM
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good =D. also - this will happen again and again its the rule not exception. girls tend not to go out alone if they're not total whores :)
/r/seduction22/08/10 07:29 PM
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the misogynist in my loves this! However - its pretty useless, unless you can deliver it with enough skill and humor that she'll be compelled to answer and get sucked into your game and start justifying her self.
/r/seduction21/08/10 11:01 PM
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you did really well for a "first time", sounds like you could've taken it way further w/ the 7. Another thing about the 7, you could always use a pivot, thats more advanced though. while there are a tons of reasons for rules, situations dictate your moves not some rules. Having said that - its up to you to be creative here. If you say things like she ended up on top - you admitting that there was something wrong - but not providing a solution to the problem, do you really expect a bunch of inter…
/r/seduction21/08/10 10:42 PM
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