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when i was younger, i woudl sex zone women i didnt think were attractive enough to date. I would never sex zone a girl that i wanted to truly date looks wise Now, that im older. I dont sex zone women at all.
/r/seduction08/04/12 11:16 PM
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sounds like bullshit
/r/seduction03/03/12 07:48 PM
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I think alot of people who start taking the gym serious. tend to start getting the "im ten lbs away from looking good" type attitude. so, they are contiously more critical on their looks. Ive seen guys and girls tlak like this at the gym and on nutrition boards. For me, before i started working out seriously. Whenever i got rejected, i just assumed it was due to my game. A good attitude to have. Now, that i work out reguarly. I have devoloped a horrible mindset from being focused on my looks. Th…
/r/seduction27/01/12 11:48 PM
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I disagree. I think anyone who has made a physical transformation, be it from fat to fit, or skinny to big. Has noticed a change in how people react to them. In fact, i was thikning he other day, how i really think its a type of peacocking. Some girls will think you are a douchebag before you open your mouth and some girls will be increasingly interested right off the bat. My inner game is still horrible. Working out has probably hurt my inner game tbh. But, i still see how bpeople respond drast…
/r/seduction27/01/12 10:46 PM
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im 6 3 and 235 lbs. for reference. I grew my hair back out now btw lol. this was 2 months ago http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/0628010240b.jpg/ I get freebies... non-fat average looking girls i dont have to try with. Even when i was in shape with a full head of hair and not big, i never got freebies. however, it seems like some girls either dig it or dont. I get approached on rare occasion now and never did before. But i also get instant rejected now more then ever before. and girls reje…
/r/seduction27/01/12 08:05 PM
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constant validation in their looks. I notice with actual pretty girls over 20... its pretty hard to get "friendzoned". like the led on type of friendzoned average girls do
/r/seduction24/01/12 05:02 AM
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haha, so basically you slept with a guy before you knew anything about him or what he was really like. And then when you found out a little about him, you didnt like him. only thing im reading here as advice for guys, is that if you are inexperienced with women, you need to hit on girls who put out super quick before they get to know you lol
/r/seduction17/01/12 03:24 AM
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depends. If you are talking to fat girls, you probably wont gain any additional social skills that would be beneficial with hot girls. but if you are just talking to girls that are slightly below what you would consider date materail looks wise, probably will help you with confidence and social skills.
/r/seduction26/12/11 01:32 AM
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i posted something similar to this in the okcupid section in a thread where i was discussing how i just wanted to make chick friends online and not date. And why. And got downvoted to oblivion when i mentioned pretty much everything you said in your OP except for the media promulgated ideal bs lol... im tall, white and jacked. i dont think alot of girls even realize they are overdating and just think guys online all just want sex lol.
/r/seduction09/12/11 09:31 PM
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Im saying its easy for some guys to get laid, because they tend to underdate lookswise. And the girls thus think they are hitting the jackpot and put out easy. maybe someguys are able to overdate via online dating by putting up deceptive pics and then having alot of game. My best friend met her bf on match and she is a solid 8/10. And he pretty much did that and thats according to her lol
/r/seduction09/12/11 09:28 PM
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I get a date with a girl that i consider in my league looks wise like once every 3 months on there. and i dont even consider myself attractive so obviously i could get laid if i wanted to underdate lol
/r/seduction09/12/11 06:56 PM
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dont be retarded lol. Since when do hot girls not post as many pictures as possible on whatever platform possible lol
/r/seduction09/12/11 06:54 PM
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A third point id like to add, Ive thought about this myself. how online dating really just means the best looking guys will be fucking all the girls... but at the end of the day, it really just is a numbers game. and girls will want relationships. so lets not get carried away here. all this means is that younger guys in there 20s and teens will get rejected alot more on first dates.
/r/seduction09/12/11 08:33 AM
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Also to go into my real world experience with friends that are on it Three of my chick friends have done online dating. and all have gotten long term relationships off it. Two of the three, have gotten guys BELOW their league off it. the other one got a guy way out of her league looks wise that is just a huge gamer i guess and never leaves the house. However, all three were serial dating like no other. like sometimes two dates in a day! If i get one girl 6/10 up on there in a week, I had agood w…
/r/seduction09/12/11 08:28 AM
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id say less than 10 percent of single girls in that age group have dating profiles. have you looked at an online site? most girls are way fat. real life is not close to that bad. thank god. and what you have described has been my experience. Where i go out with a girl, have a great date, and kiss close at the end. only to never hear from her again... it bothered me at first because in real life dating, that would of been a big rejection on my ego. but then i see all the girls who rejected me 2 y…
/r/seduction09/12/11 08:22 AM
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like honestly, im not socially awkward. so im not joking about anything that would be offensive i.e. girls weight or clothes. so, i dont understand it. ive had 2 girls that have said this. and another one or two who i think rejected me because of thinking it.
/r/seduction01/12/11 07:32 AM
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I also want to add that as ive gotten a career and have moved on from the student stage of my life, the ways the opposite sex has treated me has been a complete 180. protip : study in school
/r/seduction25/11/11 09:36 AM
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i believe I am ugly, I am also balding. However, i am jacked so this helps alot. Regardless, I do better than Average IMO. I doubt ill ever pull 8/10 plus's. but i do well enough with above average looking girls.(read skinny girls with some attractive charecteristics)
/r/seduction25/11/11 09:34 AM
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this. she wouldnt of texted you if completely uninterested. text banter can only really hurt you at this point if youre boring/clingy
/r/seduction21/11/11 12:34 AM
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if you put out on the first meeting, have breast, and arent scoring HB 8's. Then you have no business talking about seduction. You basically said you land average guys by being easy and super flirty. That doesnt take game. That takes 2 beers for most girls haha
/r/seduction21/11/11 12:14 AM
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maybe, i think she was just nervous. And it got worse becuase i waited so long, making her more and more nervous. we were having the most fluid convo of thenight. so i didnt want to stop it. anyways, im going out with her saturday night. She is flaking on her pre-existing plans. so i think she is relaly into me. And she has texted me everyday since initiating first contact each day. this situatin has really suprised me in general. I think I give up on girls too quick.
/r/seduction18/11/11 03:34 AM
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im just going to go out on a 2nd date to a location that is a lil less intense convo wise then drinks like the first date. Like some type of activity, so she can relax or if she does just talk alot which ive heard from my friend she does. She just wont tlak as much lol.
/r/seduction17/11/11 10:19 PM
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yeah and it wasnt an all out kiss rejection either. but this reminds me of a date i had a few months ago, where the girl was giving me signs off the bat and i got full out kiss rejected. I just kinda went for it. i think that is a big leap if you havent been kino'ing, and its something i need to improve
/r/seduction16/11/11 03:59 PM
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uhh, i said im not even concerned with this girl anymore really, so how is this dating advice??? i wanted to discuss talkative girls that tend to dominate the conversations. im sure everyone has met them
/r/seduction16/11/11 03:50 PM
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well she kinda sorta kiss rejected me. it was a half ass last second attempt when she was already going for the hug. and i only did it because she lingered outside her car for 30 minutes. so im pretty sure she already wrote me off... so im more asking for girls with similar personalities in teh future. as it is a reoccuring problem for me.
/r/seduction16/11/11 08:45 AM
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ya, i suck at kino. so i really rely on talking. maybe thats why i suck with girls who dominate conversations. And honestly, i feel like there isnt any way i can talk to them different to the point they wouldnt dominate the convo. seems like its just their personality. ive thought maybe my personality just doesnt mix well with these type of girls. but i figure, they probably dominate the convo with EVERYONE. so their has to be a different approach to take.
/r/seduction16/11/11 07:02 AM
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its not her specifically, just when the girl is super outgoing. i tend to struggle to build attraction, flirt, etc. Like its to the point. Where I added a girl i met briefly on facebook, saw she had 1000 plus facebook friends, and just assumed we wouldnt get along well on a date and stopped texting her.
/r/seduction16/11/11 06:31 AM
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im confused at the premise of your thread then. we had sex and are friends who talk every day. in fact ive made numerous topics on here that we were best friends who did everything together..... but she didnt want a relationship, because im just a really really good friend. obv, a friend zone exist and it lies in the comfort zone and not the give the girl butterfly zone
/r/seduction11/10/11 03:48 AM
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my last fuckbuddy didnt want to date because she saw me just as a really really good friend. if there is no friend zone and its really dependent soley on wether a girl is attracted to you, explain that.
/r/seduction11/10/11 03:30 AM
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Obviously, the goal of this subreddit is to help guys attract women. When there is a goal, people have to draw some line on wether or not that goal is met. So its of obvious interest, what guys on here consider actual success So great post bro.
/r/seduction30/09/11 02:55 PM
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Like i responded to that thread, i recently got done with a fuckbuddy type of deal with a very very close friend of mine. She woudl fuck me whenever and however i wanted. I did things to that girl, no other girl will ever let me do again. But i also listened to her problems, let her talk about other guys, etc. And at the end of the day when i caught feelings, her feelings were just "appreciative and comfy" because i was just THERE for her leading to no spark. i think the friendzone is a very rea…
/r/seduction30/09/11 02:51 PM
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i always went "haha, i completely understand. meeting someone online has to be kinda awkward. lets do somewhere with lots of people and a fun atmoshphere like such and such place!" normally all were pretty willing when i suggested a nice trendy place to meet up for a drink. the one or two that werent, i never ended up seeing anyways, and i figured they were just online to talk for attention and werent serious about it.
/r/seduction12/09/11 12:30 PM
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LOL, do not call. why????? who picks up a phone when they dont know the number calling them? No one! because no one wants to get stuck in a conversation they didnt want to be in. she will either not contact you back or text you back. so just text. text her " Hey, its snsdfour3v3r, whats up?"
/r/seduction11/09/11 01:58 AM
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happens all the time. why? because girls go out to bars to feel better about themselves. they get hit on and it makes them feel pretty. when they dont, they actively reject guys not hitting on them, to make them feel like they are better than someone atleast
/r/seduction11/09/11 01:37 AM
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photos are everything on okcupid. girls just window shop online. i put up a good non-douche muscle pic on my profile and i was getting numbers very early in every one of my convos. where before i had to message girls forever before i put up muscle pics
/r/seduction02/09/11 09:47 PM
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i wish there was. im currently seeing a one-itis... she says im her best friend, we hook up multiple times a week, she does sweet things for me all the time. sex is great. BUT, she just doesnt see me as long term potential despite seeing eachother for 6 months...with a one month break. ive tried some mind game bs, which has worked and has made her really submissive and want to hang out with me alot more. but the exclusive relationshp thing is still miles off.
/r/seduction02/09/11 05:12 AM
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yeah, im pretty good at reading body language. but i do get approached at bars by attractive girls more in the 6 months since ive had to buzz my head super short, than i have in the rest of my life combined. and my face isnt even that well suited for the short hair cut as its round. its really puts you in that niche look IMO. where girls either hate it or love it. Ive had really good success this year, so im not really that depressed about going bald, but i would rather have a full head of hair …
/r/seduction02/09/11 05:02 AM
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well, Im not good looking in the face. and i have actually improved the quality of girls ive gotten since ive balded. i think i fit in the jacked bald guy stereotype now, that some girls dig I will say, that i do get instant rejected 1000x's more than i did when i had hair. but on the flipside, ive hooked up with much hotter girls since ive balded. Ive always hooked up with skinny fit girls, but now ive started hooking up with much prettier ones. I liked having hair much more because its pretty …
/r/seduction02/09/11 04:41 AM
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what do you mean negative connoation? like the guy with bad BO dont burn the bridges, but start trying to find new friends. sounds like they dislike you
/r/seduction31/08/11 03:37 AM
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what did you do on the first date? kinda important to know before second date recs from personal experience, i like to send a text the next day saying i had a great time. then talk to her a a few days later about hanging again. the only time ive felt the timing of the "after first date text" has hurt me is when i took my chick friends advice and sent a text 1 hour after the first date
/r/seduction30/08/11 11:04 PM
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there are so many reasons why someone wont have a gf outside of looks...too busy, social ineptitude, unrealistic standards, or simply not wanting one looks are downplayed in the PUA community because most guys in the community are not good looking. looks matter more than people than people just care to admit
/r/seduction30/08/11 10:41 PM
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dont ask her lol. the more you try to make a girl your girlfriend, the more you will drive her away. I tried to make my last FWB a girlfriend too hard and she lost any interest in me besides sex and as a friend. its probably best to go with the flow and let her bring up any commitment talks
/r/seduction30/08/11 06:21 PM
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girls give out numbers all the time when they dont ever have interest. its alot easier to give out a number and ignore than to reject face to face. move on.
/r/seduction29/08/11 10:53 AM
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because its lame, shows your butthurt, and is needy.
/r/seduction29/08/11 10:52 AM
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lol wtf, youre just ask likely if not more, to get turned down for coffee than any other date. rejections happen
/r/seduction26/08/11 09:43 PM
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that might be useful if she barely knew him and he didnt want to come off as a random creeper , but they already had lunch together, so she has some insight into him. whats the point in not letting her know interest at this stage?? seems like you would be friendzoning yourself and desexualizing your self on purpose
/r/seduction26/08/11 06:19 PM
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movies is even worse, you cant talk to them and makes you look like your 16 asking a girl out. being of age, id suggest you look around for a nice trendy bar/lounge type place. I have two ill always go to for first dates. they have live music(girls love live music), fun atmosphere, and i dont have to spend much money for a first date hehe.
/r/seduction26/08/11 06:16 PM
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i dated a brazilian exchange student for 5-6 months. just talked to her like i did any other girl
/r/seduction26/08/11 03:00 PM
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dont ever ask girls out to coffee bro. it shows youre lame, boring, and safe.
/r/seduction26/08/11 02:59 PM
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i always just do it at the end of a date. where u are standing there sayin u had fun and shit. you dont have to be smooth there, its expected. if not, after 4 dates you could always cook her dinner at your place and it will be implied that its going to happen before the date even starts
/r/seduction26/08/11 01:35 AM
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i herd gaming in southern cal in general is hard as fuck and you really need to stand out so much more.
/r/seduction25/08/11 04:29 AM
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i get laid all the time for being a nice guy. Infact, my former stricly friendzoned girl and one itis, took em out for my bday, bought me a 50 dollar dinner, and fucked me all night. if a girl puts you deep in the friendzone but still actively goes out of the way to talk to you, as long as you put her on the backburner and date other girls while continueing to be the nice friend guy. she will eventually want to fuck you and be so nice back.
/r/seduction25/08/11 04:07 AM
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i personally think this is one of the trickiest situations as it is really up to a girls POV if you got clingy by texting too soon or a dick for waiting too long. i just normally dont think about it and shoot her a text late the next day as id rather be clingy than a dick.
/r/seduction23/08/11 10:07 PM
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why when i can find a girl who already has her shit together enough to communicate well?
/r/seduction23/08/11 05:00 PM
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shy or quiet girls.
/r/seduction23/08/11 04:21 AM
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Ive fucked all my chick friends. As long as you arent fat or completely vanilla looking, men and women friends are bound to fuck.
/r/seduction23/08/11 03:38 AM
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happened to me this summer. except the girl continued to want to have sex with me as the guy was 10 hours away. and just wanted to let me know, that me and her werent going anywhere. i kept taking the sex. we had a couple nasty fights because of this where i made her cry though and it really bothered me. so i probably should of cut her off. as of late, ive been getting mixed signals like she likes me dating wise alot more. but i kind of hate her now, and have little interest in bringing her arou…
/r/seduction22/08/11 10:29 PM
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occasionally i get a girl coming up to me saying "wow your so intidimidating" and joking around like that. im an amateur bodybuilder, so i attract girls that are really into the bouncer look
/r/seduction22/08/11 10:20 PM
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lmao, this is just simply shit talking and will make you like a douche to the girl who will easily pick up on it and get your ass kicked by most guys with a sack big enough to be an amog anyways
/r/seduction22/08/11 08:48 PM
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you were wearing a top hat. most classy girls are going to stay the fuck away from you. you are simply going to attract, the drunkest and dumbest girls.
/r/seduction20/08/11 01:37 PM
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how can you be alpha by being friends with someone who tossed you aside when she wasnt in the mood to talk to you? the very thought of befriending her again is beta. you are doing great without her it seems. why add her back in?
/r/seduction20/08/11 04:15 AM
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"haha, the camera does add 10 lbs" " i bet you tell all your dates that" then move onto something else and not dwell on it.
/r/seduction20/08/11 01:22 AM
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probably because most guys turning into PUA are flawed in some way that makes them struggle with women, and just are able to get laid because they start actively trying hard thru the practice of PUA. but that doesnt solve the flaws that will be uncovered in a long term relationship.
/r/seduction19/08/11 10:32 PM
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if you dont have any mutual friends, id just flake. dont stand her up though. if this is the first date and you have no motivation, wait 3 dates in...
/r/seduction19/08/11 09:41 PM
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i disagree. i think its best to not define the relationship, to keep her feelings about you as confused as possible. i think that line would be better used early in the friendship, not this far in which may just be reaffirming the long existing friendship.
/r/seduction19/08/11 08:29 PM
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do not call her up and be up front about it. when you are trying to switch from friendzone to hooking up/dating, being upfront about it just puts sooooooo much more pressure on the situation and every hang out than just going with the flow.
/r/seduction19/08/11 07:18 PM
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telling her you had feelings for her is a lot different then telling her its not a friendly hang out lol. like wayyyyyyyyyy overboard.
/r/seduction19/08/11 05:28 PM
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cooking dates are pretty money. alot less " i want to fuck you" sounding than a movie at my place date. i normally go date 1) drinks date 2) bring her out with my friends date 3) cook dinner at my place
/r/seduction19/08/11 05:13 PM
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1) telling her you had feelings for her before the kiss was a collusal fuck up. It puts so much more pressure on the kiss and everything, because you make it MEAN so much more by telling her you have feelings for her. Plus, telling her that before a first kiss is really just creepy bro. 2) i never clarify a date isnt just a friendly hang out, girls arent stupid.
/r/seduction19/08/11 05:09 PM
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i get all my sex thru friendzones for the most part(did date one girl this year for a few months) just cant let them view you as completely asexual... they talk about guys, you talk about girls, bring up sex in non-creepy ways, etc
/r/seduction19/08/11 04:51 PM
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its totally different where she is throwing herself at you. but when guys have post asking how to sexuallize convo's with a married woman or how to do kino on some guys girlfriends, its beta
/r/seduction19/08/11 01:25 AM
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definetely dont call her out on it IMO... acknowledge it. and then text her a few days later if you really wanted to see her. but, having used okcupid myself, these girls are super flakey because they have no real life connection to you. so, if it were me, id next her and if she texted me again than great. if not, then i wouldnt bother with her again.
/r/seduction19/08/11 12:05 AM
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lol suprised looking at the gf pics on that site, reminds me of guys giving advice on here and are meeting hb "9s" on okcupid left and right lol.... there mite be one or two 7's per city on okcupid, no fucking 9s.
/r/seduction18/08/11 11:27 PM
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no high quality guy, is going to get one-itis from being in the friendzone. they will move on asap, because they are high quality and have other options. horrible advice
/r/seduction18/08/11 08:35 PM
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over texted, needy, and tried to be too cute. if you just keep the convos short and for a purpose rather than bs small talk about movie trailers, would avoid all these problems.
/r/seduction18/08/11 07:17 PM
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ill be honest, i couldnt bothe rkeeping up the effort of texting a girl 5 states away that i havent dated yet. also, stop being a sleezeball with your best friend gf. you were doing kino on her and had to stop?!? wtf, bro. thats a good way to have no friends and no social proof.
/r/seduction18/08/11 06:49 PM
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"nah i do, come over sunday" do you not want to hook up with her or something lol??? personally, i try not to say anything that defines my relationship with a fuckbuddy/fwb/booty call
/r/seduction18/08/11 05:37 AM
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you didnt hit on her, you more or less catcalled her. she works at a bar, im sure guys are giving her yelling complements out to her all night. so it didnt even phase her.
/r/seduction18/08/11 05:29 AM
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from my experience, you dont approach girls at clubs to have normal conversations. you pretty much just have to take on that whole fun party guy persona. This is why i stick to day game or social networking, because im great at having normal conversations. but really just lack the energy and outgoingness that seems to be needed to be great at clubs. i still get an occasional girl at a club, but its really just luck because i approach. not because im good at club game.
/r/seduction18/08/11 05:11 AM
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i was just saying if that ever happened to me, i couldnt trust her. wasnt really commenting on the pick up
/r/seduction18/08/11 04:56 AM
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i could never trust her though, i dont care if it was highschool.
/r/seduction18/08/11 04:33 AM
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everything
/r/seduction18/08/11 02:19 AM
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i always friendzoned girls on that site, like just friendzoned on the internet and asked them places to go as i was in a similar situation. yelp.com also helps. i normally go to bars for a first meeting when i used online dating, though i dont anymore as i feel the quality of women is so low on there. But i also found a few go to places off of yelp where i could drop 15-18 bucks for some nice "trendy" cheap food.
/r/seduction17/08/11 09:14 PM
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i could never move on my friends FWB. one its nasty. i find it so gross. two id feel like she would start trying to play us off eachother...using me as attention to make my friend like her more.
/r/seduction17/08/11 09:07 PM
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Sounds like youve read too much into PUA as well, if you think its A or B. Girls can get laid any day of the week by guys far out of their league looks wise. This isnt pick up, its called having breast. Women are not going to create higher value for themselves on approaches and initial impressions near as easy as men can. A 5 will more or less be a 5 for a while. If there was a PUA handbook for women to get men out of their league looks wise, it would be completely the opposite what it is for me…
/r/seduction17/08/11 06:54 PM
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disagree, lets be reality here, TONS AND TONS of guys have little confidence in approaching women so are very apt to settle. just look at how many guys are actually openly dating chubby girls. whereas women can get laid whenever they want even if they are quite fat, that fact alone lets them sit around and be pickier in the looks of the guys they want
/r/seduction17/08/11 06:17 PM
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excluding my roomates, all my close friends are chicks. and i always hear two of them in paticular, think how cute it is when a guy comes up DURING THE DAY and is nervous. they will go out with guys far below their looks range from these type of approaches. At bars, however, ive seen them weasel drinks out of unconfident guys left and right.
/r/seduction17/08/11 05:03 PM
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do you not see how ironic this thread is? if he had been friendly and not hit on you, you wouldnt of ejected!?!? you asked him if you met the other night and he said pretty much the ONLY FRIENDLY ANSWER POSSIBLE. and hesaid no, because i was doing XYZ. What else could he of said here??????? The only way he could of hit on you less and still of been friendly is if he held his hands over his head in surrender and said " No, but i just want to be platonic friends." Thats like you asking a random gu…
/r/seduction17/08/11 06:03 AM
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i dont see why you worry about this, its a non-problem and probably just something you build to make you feel like there is a reason you shouldnt be out chasing girls. if a girl your dating lets it get this far, its not that big of a deal as she likes you already. I was seeing my dream girl looks wise earlier this year, and couldnt even get it hard enough to stick it in the first time and we still hung out 2 times more that week and kept seeing each other a while after. she was kidna pissed when…
/r/seduction17/08/11 05:21 AM
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just keep texting short then. i like to get in there with a few good lines and then get out before it starts getting boring. this is hard with some girls though, as some girls will text the shit out of you and makes it hard to bail really quick every single time.
/r/seduction17/08/11 04:03 AM
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well rather, than changing my personality to approach girls. I just change the way i go after girls that works for my personality. I am naturally quiet, nice, and have 0 confidence in my looks despite being tall and jacked.(my chick friends call me "the gentle giant") So, the lack of outgoingness and confidence gets me rejected on direct approaches pretty often. i still do them though so, what ive learned to do, is slowly build rapport over time by just being friendly rather than going for any s…
/r/seduction17/08/11 03:31 AM
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ive fucked all my female friends atleast once. and i even white knight one or two of them some. i think guys and girls cant really be strictly platonic friends if you hang out with them long enough. nice guys get laid all the time in real life as long as they make moves physically. I think the cocky dick angle is over played online as THE way to get girls by many.
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:45 PM
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if i was 38 and as attractive as you think you are, id probably just sign up for match.com or another online dating site and pick up all desperate 30 year old women
/r/seduction16/08/11 07:09 PM
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do not bring it up, seriously, that is a horrible horrible idea.
/r/seduction16/08/11 05:57 PM
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personally id never approach a girl with head phones on, because the odds are really stacked against you. some people probably are going to tell you they dont mind doing them. but id be really curious if they actually did that in real life rather than just saying so online. Im really into working out and bodybuilding, so i figured id have good luck at the gym as being in great shape is definetely the best thing i have going for me. . i think my biggest mistake when i first started approaching wa…
/r/seduction16/08/11 04:56 PM
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honestly, even if she were into you that way. i dont think its in anyones best interest, to ask her out officially. my girl had a point before she came out with the full "it aint happening" rejection, when she said we could hang out more and just not call it dates at first. because an official date puts so much pressure and awkwardness between two friends. like you almsot feel pressure into making it work. i think the best bet is to really actively try to hang out with her more and build attract…
/r/seduction16/08/11 05:56 AM
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i wouldnt say anything as it just makes it seem like a much bigger deal than it is. Id just keep going along and physically escalating slowly as its no big deal and natural. IMO by bringing it up at all like that, you are turning a kiss, into a kiss that means something even if youre saying it doesnt Im currently getting over one-itis of my best friend. and i originally did just that and casually physcially escalated untill we were fuckign all the time, she was even starting to joke about things…
/r/seduction16/08/11 04:23 AM
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i think her text was too aggressive for that to work. This was much more than a "lets just be friends text", where a more passive nonchalant reply could work. I dont really see this as being salvageable, as i think it was just a rude fuck-off text and the chances of even being able friendzone yourself with her is going to be slim. But, if you think it was a test/challenge, then a slightly aggressive text back would probably of been best the only time ive gotten such an aggressive uncalled for te…
/r/seduction16/08/11 03:57 AM
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yeah, bro. from my experience, when girls take you to meet their friends ASAP like that. she is unsure of what she thinks of you and wants input. i tend find asian girls the WORST by far with this type of behavior. I had an asian chick "happen" to have her best friends at a bar next door to the restuarant i chose for a 3rd date and we just had to stop by and say hi after. i kiss closed and never called her again. Either way, she sounds like a massive bitch for sending that type of rejection. who…
/r/seduction15/08/11 09:06 PM
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yeah, except when she starts dating someone. im totally not talking to her again as ill feel beta as hell lmao.
/r/seduction15/08/11 08:15 PM
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ya, i guess im just mind fucked on how a best friend and fuckbuddy wont want to date you but actively seeking a relationship lol. i think i was just too nice as i wasnt even thinking about fuking her for the longest time.
/r/seduction15/08/11 08:11 PM
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I am dogshit ugly(probably bottom 10 percent face wise), but im jacked and tall. so my reaction isnt all negative as i do get complemented alot but i do get instant rejected a fair bit before the word hi comes out of my mouth. Anyways, there has never been anyway i could possibly believe that i am attractive. And before id go on dates or out to bars, id stress so much about my looks. Sadly, what has helped me is simply not thinking about it at all. This is alot easier for me to do, since i shave…
/r/seduction15/08/11 04:44 PM
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Use common sense, Seddit would not exist if women did not have unrealistic expectations. The average girl would talk to the average guy, and they would share common interest and ta-da. But thats not what always happens, the average guy has to work to increase his value to get that average girl. why? Because even an average girl can put out and get one of those hot guys atleast for one night. They know they can get them atleast temporaraly This is always seen in real life, with the girl that "jus…
/r/seduction15/08/11 03:49 AM
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lol, something tells me if your a huge black guy. getting super physical real quick may not go over too well with alot of girls. im a pretty big guy myself(tho white) and ive always felt i intimidated girls some so i had to go a lil slower.
/r/seduction15/08/11 02:46 AM
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girsl give out their numbers like candy on halloween bro. girls will give you their number to get u to fuck off. maybe ur asking to quick for hte number
/r/seduction15/08/11 01:15 AM
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you didnt get rejected because you checked them in lol. if you werent flirting and just were talking to them, you probably werent being fun. and thus in a party setting, they got bored. or they saw your complete lack of confidence that is reeking thru this post. and you didnt do well with two girls... small ass sample size.
/r/seduction14/08/11 06:02 AM
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this is an instant next to me on the first few dates, unless she puts out. shows strong disrespect and lack of interest.
/r/seduction14/08/11 04:10 AM
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never had this happen to me, but i saw it happen for the first time last night out.... lol. both guys shit tested each other back and forth and the girl ate it up. whats the point in doing this though, with so many girls around. Id like to hear the rationale. id probably just blow us both out, but im a bigger guy, so no one is going to get violent with me lol
/r/seduction14/08/11 01:21 AM
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ive seen guys say the smoothest most perfect opening in the world, like movie type shit and get told to fuck off. and ive approached girls nervous and unconfident and had them go with it. Ive gotten rejected by chubby girls instantly. And ive gotten the big titted bar tender 8/10 to hang out 2 hours after her shift to shoot the shit with me. just remember, its all random bro.
/r/seduction14/08/11 12:20 AM
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a true goodlooking guy cant be an afc. If they suplicate to 90 percent of women, the women eat it up and do it right back. one of my closest friends is really good looking, he will buy a girl a drink for looking like a "goddess" and the girl will go with it. he gets so many SNL's its ridicolous. however, many above average looking guys are. Its because they still have to try. All women secretly want one of the guys in the top 20 percent of looks, leaving even guys well above average having to ga…
/r/seduction14/08/11 12:06 AM
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id only do it if i considered her way out of my league looks wise and i was scoring. i think its nasty to do it to random girls, because some girls are really gross down there despite how nice they are everywhere else.
/r/seduction11/08/11 04:03 AM
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goodluck lol, if a girl ever tried to friendzone me from a dating site and i have used them before. The only way I'd give her the time of day, is if she had lots of pretty friends which most girls on the site dont hence resorting to online. Otherwise, I'd be like screw you and message another girl lol.
/r/seduction10/08/11 09:13 PM
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1) because people are normally on online dating sites to date or hook up. She is talking to 20 other guys a day who messaged her on that site, so its not like she is having a lack of male contact to replace you with 2) friendzoning her after adate could increase her attraction to you.
/r/seduction10/08/11 08:39 PM
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you tried friendzoning her. Lets see if it actually works. I have strong doubts that your plan will hold up.
/r/seduction10/08/11 07:19 PM
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ya, i guess my biggest problem is that most guys are not honest on their rejection to success ratio. or only try on give me's, so what i think should be happening is probably not as realistic as it should be
/r/seduction09/08/11 06:43 PM
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he clearly wasnt that interested to begin with. You just kind of went after him hard and he took it. And has since lost the tiny interest he ever had. id move on.
/r/seduction09/08/11 08:41 AM
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that makes sense then. where exactly during the day if you arent using class
/r/seduction09/08/11 07:25 AM
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how do you know youve never been rejected because of your looks? do you not approach in clubs lol?
/r/seduction09/08/11 07:20 AM
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didnt ask how to get them. i asked how to deal with the extra rejections one is going to get from being a not so good looking guy
/r/seduction09/08/11 07:09 AM
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also got lucky their was a wine abr walking distance from her house lmao
/r/seduction08/08/11 07:31 PM
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i thought my move was bold. and she'd appreciate it. lol, so dumb. but it wasnt the wrong play bcause of how you were thinking. girls like having boyfriends without the commitment, when youre in the friendzone, thats exactly what you are more or less. hell i was fucking my girl. i ws totally a boyfriend without the actual commitment. they arent going to want to give that up so easily as its the perfect situation for them, so you have to slowly bring the idea up i think.
/r/seduction07/08/11 06:26 AM
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well form my own experience, i had a girl go from somewhat interested(we were having sex) to scared shitless by saying i liked her more than a friend kind of like you did. So, i think outright saying that is a poor move. id have a hard time seeing if it was recoverable. I was firmly placed in the platonic friendzone after my similar situation. infact, worse then the friendzone as she treated me like the lost puppy dog following her around after this. the whole dynamics of the friendship changed …
/r/seduction07/08/11 02:47 AM
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i have one itis over my fuckbuddy, though, she contacts the hell out of me 24/7. she jsut doesnt want to date me specifically for whatever reason. i was probably to nice to her as i was talking to her only as friends for the longest time as i was seeing another girl. decided to drop off the face of the earth this weekend and just claim i lost my phone monday when i get back...ive already gotten 3 text today lol im unsure of what this will accomplish though. the "pseudo" relationship where we tal…
/r/seduction05/08/11 08:56 PM
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im pretty big muscle wise. ive noticed its a fetish some girls like sexually, but kind of dislike it in terms of dating in favor of the pretty boy look plus girls are stupid, and once you hit it once. youre now a safe booty call ebcause you dont raise their number lol
/r/seduction05/08/11 06:09 AM
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i think it just comes from mutual attraction. when both people are mutuall attracted, then the convos just flow better, more flirty, and funny. For example, my current Friend with benefits, we can talk all day long over text and skype. But in person, ive had better conversations with a girl at a club that was telling me to fuck off. She just doesnt dig my looks that much and it makes our real life conversations very dry
/r/seduction05/08/11 12:48 AM
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ya, ive just decided to limit contact and hook up on occasion with her. Seems like im deeply entrenched into the friendzone despite having sex lol. so i dont know how i can change that
/r/seduction03/08/11 08:53 PM
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yeah, its not easy as she still hits me up constantly lol. and wants to fuck or hang out all the time.
/r/seduction03/08/11 08:25 PM
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had been hooking up with this girl for one month, like sex once a every 5 days. Got emotions for her and asked ehr if she wanted to go on a real date and she said no. then proceeded to ask otu 3 other guys on a date within 10 days. This is much worse than a normal rejection IMO, as we were hooking up prior. really destroyed my confidence as she seemed to want to date any one other than me, infact im still not over this rejection. only rejection that has really crushed me
/r/seduction03/08/11 07:20 AM
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