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| 232 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLD | Discussion | johnnybayarea | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 05:55 PM |
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| 1 | The Reason Getting Dates is So Much Harder For Men Is Women Won’t Look Past Any Flawsi actually agree with this sentiment for the most part, except in the case of leaving a marriage. You've already committed, for better or worse (within reason)...if a women "monkey" branches only because she can, she is the bad actor in the situation. Outside of marriage, you are mostly correct that a woman's privilege exists due to men and she is well within her right to act accordingly. But would you agree that if she ends up a single mother or alone/unhappy (if happily married was her intenti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 11:13 PM |
| 2 | CMV: if he doesn't fight for you when you break up, he's not the oneAs a man, this is terrible advice for dealing with someone like me. If you break up with me for no cause, I'll let you walk. If you break up with me for some trivial cause, I might fight to keep the relationship, but from there on out I'm already thinking you will jump ship for any small reason and will already be shopping a new relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 08:26 AM |
| 1 | Would you agree that the wage gap between the genders is mostly due to women's own choices?And women are date raped out of every sorority...which mostly do not take engineering courses. I'm sure you friend was harassed, and its unfortunate...but it's not systemic. My anecdotal experience is that the few women there were left in CS, they normally had men hovering around them, willing to help or partner up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 09:55 PM |
| 3 | Would you agree that the wage gap between the genders is mostly due to women's own choices?I skimmed through it. Interesting read that CS degrees were on an uptick, then suddenly young women stopped going into the field. I didn't see a concrete reason or proof of systemic sexism. The wage gap source they use is flawed. They make the claim that men in tech make up to 61% more than women, "compared to 48% for the US as a whole"....seems like they are using the same metric where they take all the men and women regardless of title/hours and average them out. Going thru the possible causes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 09:24 PM |
| 3 | Would you agree that the wage gap between the genders is mostly due to women's own choices?Your source on "not letting them in"? I work in the field, we consistently struggle to DEI as many female applicants as possible to reach some parity. I went to school for engineering, my class had less than 10% women...by the upper divisions there were less than 5% women. The last time i looked at this study, when you accounted for all those variables, some industries women were ahead, and some they were behind by as much as a single digit % diff. Close enough you could explain it away with neg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 08:47 PM |
| 1 | In the False Paternity Scenarios We've Been Discussing, What Would Be "Fair" Restorative Justice for the Deceived Partner?We would hope most people don't think of marriages as temporary, but the statistical truth is 50% end that way. So this happens very often...and the prevailing stories are deadbeat father or woman using children as bargaining chips for more child support and/or alimony. Sure that might not happen, but you also have the convenience of being a woman and never being lied to about the origin of the baby. The case in question is that a Father is lied to about a baby (partner cheated) and how should t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 07:32 PM |
| 3 | In the False Paternity Scenarios We've Been Discussing, What Would Be "Fair" Restorative Justice for the Deceived Partner?I mean a relationship is temporary in most cases. You've broken up with people and you owe them no emotional or financial support. If we were in a relationship, I had a child from a previous relationship, would you be happy to pay me child support when we broke up? I mean the government treats the child as a possession and asset in times of taxes...and so does the mother as she's the one seeking financial support. If we're just talking about a relationship, why are we talking about money at all?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 09:06 PM |
| 6 | In the False Paternity Scenarios We've Been Discussing, What Would Be "Fair" Restorative Justice for the Deceived Partner?I mean the post is looking for fair justice, transactional seems like the only way to be objective in these matters. The child is an unfortunate causality in this since the fraud is between the mother and the father and doesn't directly involve the child. If the mother robs a bank, doesn't pay her taxes, etc having a child doesn't shield her from those punishments, why should defrauding a private citizen not be the same? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 08:52 PM |
| 2 | Why "just date someone from your social circle" is often poor advice for nerdy, socially awkward, sexless men and why cold-approaching as many women as possible is betterwell the simple solution was arranged marriages and trading for daughters with a cow or some satchel of money and jewels. We don't do that in the west anymore, so I guess the next best thing is a social circle where your next potential partner is served up to you on a platter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 12:51 AM |
| 0 | Korea is the future of western gender relations- and that's a good thingI think the problem is Korea's population is already highly educated...so they don't need help there. It is rare the public sector can every pay more than the private sector, especially for educated workers, and the highly possible chance of dying. Currently Korea needs the entirety of its young men to fill its ranks. 100%. You'd find it pretty much impossible to offer anything to get 100% sign on. Your ideas are great in a society like the US. Education is expensive, we have low participation i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 12:02 AM |
| 2 | “Double standards suck!”. . .unless. . .I mean the primary reason why I think you are mediocre is because you stated that you got your job because of your manly name (which you denied saying...)(but not anymore?). Also, you were implying the other poster was mediocre...i just thought it was a funny exchange. My personal experience with DEI has been pretty negative. It is of course anecdotal, but being told to strongly consider to hire someone solely on their gender and ethnicity. Then strongly consider promoting them because other peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 10:30 PM |
| 2 | Korea is the future of western gender relations- and that's a good thingSure I get that. But it is easy to claim that while living in a large populated country, with an advanced military, and its nearest like-power enemy an ocean away. If you were the leader of S.Korea, what would you do to keep a standing army? aside from conscription. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 10:02 PM |
| 1 | “Double standards suck!”. . .unless. . .I’ve almost certainly been moved forward in a job-seeking process just for having a male name on my resume If you can make your ideal gym at home, go for it! (I say, crying in one-bedroom apartment) Aren't these both comments you've made in this thread? Sure sounds like mediocrity to me. The critical thinker in me says if you believe your resume was moved forward only because of your sweet man name...then I could only assume you do not have stand out work experience or a stand out degree and hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 09:53 PM |
| 1 | “Double standards suck!”. . .unless. . .Weird you are attacking someone as mediocre, while also admitting you are likely under qualified for your current job and countless women should have gotten the job over you... [edit] while crying in your one bedroom apt... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 09:24 PM |
| 2 | Korea is the future of western gender relations- and that's a good thingi mean its a population of 50M vs 330M. Factor women unusable in the front lines and people over the serving age, there aren't many abled bodied people left to defend the country. I'd figure US has more volunteers because we have better war propaganda (top gun), and a less college bound/educated average. People sign up for the military because they have no other direction in life, or they "want to blow shit up". Majority of 18yrs walking into a mall to sign up for the armed forced, didn't have a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 09:13 PM |
| 0 | Women secretly hate other womenI can appreciate not all women are the same, and you might have had better experiences....or at least better friends. You've gotten positive attention, but not all women will hate you to your face. We agree the source of some hate is jealousy...and we also agree the hate is misguide and its really self hate, but we also grew up in a society that tells us we're special and its never our fault. I would bet more people would externalize the hate rather than be self loathe. Reality TV (while not acc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 08:51 AM |
| 0 | Women secretly hate other women"They hate us cause they ain't us"...the girls that can't afford or don't have that natural beauty, hate the girls that do. The ones willing to risk their lives or jump thru all the hoops to compete hate themselves and I would guess hate the other girls to some extent. I'm sure every woman that has to make up 2hr earlier to put on their face, spend hundreds of dollars they don't have for makeup/nails/hair....hates what they have to do just a little. Waking up from a botched plastic surgery. Isn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 08:14 AM |
| -1 | Women secretly hate other womenYou say that, but its hate. They can't just be happy that this girl is beautiful with her C cups and the positive attention she gets. They decide throw down 10k, risk dying on the table, to take away her natural advantage. Insecurity is hate as well. You hate yourself, but you also hate society a bit, and you definitely hate her and her perfect tits. The industry shouldn't have taken off like this, but women hate each other so much they made competition a norm. Attractive and fit men have always… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 08:29 PM |
| -5 | Women secretly hate other womenSome objective proof (i'm not sure if the correlation can be made); the cosmetic industry, the cosmetic surgery industry; and reality TV targeted towards women. The competition and hate is so high that if they are "lacking" they'll spend 100s to 1000s to have what their competition has. They'll even risk their health to do so. They claim this isn't for men, it is for themselves...which I read this is to feel better compared to other peer women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 07:43 PM |
| 1 | People in PPD, what would you like to change with regards to modern dating and relationships?I think its really a society issue. The more fair would be most people were good actors. Most, if not all, were seeking only long lasting marriage type relationships. In reality, this hasn't happened...so society chose to control women and put the pressure on them to gatekeep. We shamed promiscuous women, so they were forced to make more careful decisions about the partners they took on. This could be the biological design, where men are designed to spread their seed as much as possible and wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 07:16 AM |
| 3 | People in PPD, what would you like to change with regards to modern dating and relationships?I think this may happen one day. It would have to be a grand open source product that people donate their time in making work. The issue is dating apps are not a social good and created by for profit companies. They better they work at matching forever, the less profits they have. And rather then using it as a way to advertise for date venues relationship gifts, they just target the most willing to pay, MEN. If they design the app to limit false matches for everyone, something as simple as 1 liv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 07:00 AM |
| 2 | Is it fair to say something about a woman existing as a self-sufficient relatively accomplished adult turns off many men even if she's a kind beautiful woman?Agreed, if you are in the bottom 50% stereotypically there aren't many well of women that want to start a family with you. Sounds like you got exactly who you wanted, and she's more than happy to fill that role, congrats! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:25 AM |
| 2 | Is it fair to say something about a woman existing as a self-sufficient relatively accomplished adult turns off many men even if she's a kind beautiful woman?Obviously my anecdotal evidence is small, but I’ve dated both and they have similar attitudes about home making. My 40-60k gfs didn’t care I made substantially more, didn’t do more housework or cook better. My 100k gfs didn’t make the home better, but expected I make more than them. My wife falls in the latter, but has also been the best home maker | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 02:03 AM |
| 0 | Do most men want kids enough to do 50/50 childrearing?Yea, the whole men have a super lost cost of living and women just can't accept that. She doesn't subscribe to the "I might make a sandwich later knife". Or unused spaces are just going to get dusty, maybe don't walk over there and look at it. My only cover, the rest of the guys in the group are all about the same, so all the wives just echo chamber it is what it is. Also, all the men are fairly high earners so life goes on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 11:25 PM |
| 10 | Is it fair to say something about a woman existing as a self-sufficient relatively accomplished adult turns off many men even if she's a kind beautiful woman?I don't know who these men are or if they really even exist. i get it if you are in the top 1% money isn't important to you and your partner having a 9-5 would be more of a detriment. if you are in the bottom 50%, you are too poor to care, and money is money. For the 51%-99%, there is more variance. An 8hr a day, 50k/yr woman has nearly the same attitude as a 200k/yr 8hr woman...so you might as well get take the one with more money (if all things equal). You might only find a different attitude … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 11:17 PM |
| 2 | Do most men want kids enough to do 50/50 childrearing?I have a wife and kids. It was not an absolute necessity to have kids, but I could see myself being a father. We didn't agree with division of labor from the onset, but figured we'd figure it out. I stand by 50/50 is usually a pipe dream, and I give an reasonable (a man's perspective) amount of care. The rub is, she is particular about the level of care, and wishes to provide more. She seems to accept the situation we're currently in. I would say current split on kid work is like 70/30 her. Hous… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 10:49 PM |
| 1 | If this is what the blue pill is promising men if they treat women right I don't want itHe should 100% divorce her now. Depending on the lawyer and the state, could he even get an annulment (especially based on the child bearing situation). Even if he's strapped for alimony for the foreseeable future, he's only going to make more money later, and having child support tacked on would be even worse. Divorce is a no brainer. If the story is real, the guy is stupid...and this is just the cost. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 10:26 PM |
| 1 | I'm single because "they're all just intimidated"Seems your responses are overwhelmingly "woman"...gun to my head to choose, I'd likely choose woman as well. But...I could see incel men stating this as well. From my experience with their posts, they tend to believe they are nice, smarter than most (college or otherwise)...and desperately looking for cope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 07:20 PM |
| 1 | What’s considered being single by choice?You can't say "fat women were never really in", then say blk hispanic guys prefer fatter women. And Historically fatter women were found attractive (not like 600lb women), but wasn't it a sign of wealth that you could even get fat. I do not believe there is a correlation of blk women all getting fatter as they age. Sure there are some quasimodo looking girls you'd rather chop your dick off than touch. You aren't born attracted to a certain type. You are biologically driven to seek out a female, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/24 06:26 AM |
| 1 | If “your league is what you can get” then women are shooting too high for guys they can only get for casual sexI agree with the statement that competition would be much higher. You get larger pool, but you get more competition. I guess I would say believe in yourself, that you can rise above enough of your competition to get what you want. You are preferring traditional methods because then your potentials have little choice and not many as good as you. In the same vein, you might have worse choices in your immediate circle and you are settling because that is all you have immediate access to. Unless you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 09:26 PM |
| 1 | If “your league is what you can get” then women are shooting too high for guys they can only get for casual sexYou can get ghosted in real life, girls have been giving men wrong numbers for a life time. Plenty of people stop returning calls. Catfish, is an issue...but I don't recommend anyone having a long distance online only relationship. if they show up older, fatter, uglier...sucks but you can walk away with very minimal cost. Vetting; How many unique women do you even meet on a given day? How long would it take for you to ask surface questions like religion, age, education, job, hobbies, etc? how ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 08:38 PM |
| 1 | What’s considered being single by choice?i mean fat women were SUPER in a few hundred years ago. Thicc women are getting play now. Stereotypically, blk men and hispanic men like thicc girls...even fat depending who you ask. Those coat hanger thin super models were very much in style hence lots of women were becoming anorexic and bulimic. I fully support your stance on gay, that likely is nature. But if US society keeps going this way, thicc women might be all that is on the menu and for sure you are eating. I'm not sure what you deem i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 05:30 PM |
| 1 | If “your league is what you can get” then women are shooting too high for guys they can only get for casual sexCompanies come and go, but I believe the reach that OLD affords you is unmatched. I believe meeting a good partner is just a numbers game. You need access to as many potential partners to have the best hope in finding a good match. Traditional ways forces you to pick from a very small pool of people you might have access to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Which of these men is more appealing to a woman?sure, maybe they are introverts or they are frugal and not willing flex their cash. You are wild to think that just cause you make 300k/yr and you are single there are red flags. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Which of these men is more appealing to a woman?Oh 100, almost any guy taking solo trips to thailand, vietnam, etc super red flags (but similar to a guy that regulars strip club or rub n tug parlors). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 08:18 AM |
| 1 | If “your league is what you can get” then women are shooting too high for guys they can only get for casual sexOLD is the future, and there are many pros to it. I find because it is new/unregulated, there are a lot of bad actors in it. As it become more and more common place, more people will learn how to act on it. I'm also biased because I found my wife on OLD. I don't think looks match is the only thing ppl partner up for. I've dated girls physically less attractive than myself and less attractive than other girls I've dated. Looks are such a subjective thing, that personality, family, financial, etc … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 07:53 AM |
| 0 | What’s considered being single by choice?I clearly missed your point. People can be single by choice if they choose to just not participate. But for the population that are seeking a partner, you cannot just claim that your options are bad so you have no choice. A bad choice is still a choice. If you can only attract the bottom 10% of society...then you are very likely near the bottom 10%. If what you say is true, and there is always some 10% that would gladly partner with you, then yes, no one could say they are "single by choice" if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 07:49 AM |
| 1 | What’s considered being single by choice?Beauty standards have evolved and change over every generation. Fads come in and out...people can fully control what they believe is attractive. Your attraction likely comes from various inputs thru media, family, friends, etc. Pre angelila jolie, big lips was not a point of attraction. Then they invented lip fillers and now every IG thot has sausage lips. BBL is also a new thing, likely a big push from a media powerhouse like the kardashians. You like what you like because of various inputs in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 07:37 AM |
| 4 | If “your league is what you can get” then women are shooting too high for guys they can only get for casual sexI feel this is a huge byproduct of online dating. Barrier to entry for top tier men is super low + new movement of female sexual freedom. This combination, makes it easy/ok for women to sleep with top tier men...only to think they themselves are top tier...its like they forgot to teach their daughters what a 2am booty call really means. It's all personal choice and all, good for them...its only annoying when they then proclaim there are no good men...or all men are fuckbois. I do appreciate that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 07:03 AM |
| 0 | If “your league is what you can get” then women are shooting too high for guys they can only get for casual sexI think the problem with the passport bro is you have to go and stay in their market. Issue, lots of those men are only so-so financially here, go there to flaunt their wealth...but once they bring that woman back its a different game. She 100% didn't marry you for love, its the opportunity. So with that mindset, once she learns the language, lives the life, she'll monkey branch just as fast. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 06:58 AM |
| 1 | What’s considered being single by choice?I mean if all you can attract are the bottom 10%, sadly maybe that person would also belong in what they think is the bottom 10%. Your market value is what the market is willing to pay for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 06:50 AM |
| 1 | Which of these men is more appealing to a woman?My point is ugly, 40, money isn't the red flag you think it is. good looking, 40, money would have even more red flags. So all you are really saying is someone 40 and rich...is a red flag cause you feel most women the only thing that's important is money and they would have locked him up earlier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 06:48 AM |
| 2 | What’s considered being single by choice?I won't accept gay bar or nursing home as valid arguments. At least on the grounds of biology, there is still a level of reproduction that drives coupling. Also, a guy that can't get what the society would deem an average girl isn't cleaning up at the gay bar...i'm pretty sure they have standards as well. I believe you could control what you are attracted to, that's what growing up is. I'm sure in a vacuum most people are physically attracted to the fuckboi or the thot. Its after growing up and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/24 11:20 PM |
| 14 | What’s considered being single by choice?I don't think acceptable really should a a qualifier. If you have options and you voluntarily turn them down then you are single by choice. If you are claiming there are no "acceptable" or good choices, then perhaps you have inflated standards (but definitely your choice). Its like saying you will only date a gosling or sweeney, and all the other possibilities that will return your call are just considered unacceptable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/24 10:53 PM |
| 2 | Which of these men is more appealing to a woman?I mean lots of money, good looking, AND never married might be the real red flag. Clearly a playboy, living some dicaprio life. Have you ever thought the ugly/gross dude is ugly and gross and that's why he hasn't been married. Unless your stance is there are enough trash women out there that, someone would have trapped him by now? There are plenty of ppl that earn 300k and you couldn't even tell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/24 10:38 PM |
| – | Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too highyo, maybe you were always a 9 and just dating down! Don't sell yourself short. I can see your point tho, If I did/went somewhere cool within the last year, I post it for sure. I just don't know about doing all the stuff women apparently do to capture the best photo, figure they know all the tricks as well, just wasting time at that point. Like you show up somewhere cool, take a few selfies, make sure your eyes are open and looking the right directions. I'm not brining a ring light, posing, filte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/24 07:31 PM |
| 3 | Which of these men is more appealing to a woman?I mean making 300k/yr even 1M/yr isn't getting handshakes from the likes of Epstein. Maybe the bald baller wants to meet a legit match and doesn't want to drive a 150k car, sub to sugar babies, hang out in gold digger bars, etc. i know a few ppl making that kind of money and their only downsides are they aren't the most attractive or out going (introverted)...no red flags, just a bit of struggling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/24 07:06 PM |
| – | Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too highI'm in my late 30s, I'm really not into that social media life. Haha yea, my profile picture gets updated once a year if even and it'll be something casually taken from the roll. For sure I'd at least pick the decent ones. I thought most men operated in this fashion. Hop on the app, swipe 100 times, maybe start up 5-10 conversations and go on even fewer in person dates. I wish I was truly crushing it...but didn't think specifically cultivated pics would really be the difference maker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/24 06:59 PM |
| – | Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too highi posted 4 random pictures from my camera roll...I didn't know guys were working that hard to lie on their dating profiles. I figure I look the way I look, rather not waste your time with a partial catfish. its not like you are gonna hook up if i show up 20lbs over weight, 5yrs older, or without those great filters. I found enough success with this approach. I for sure wasn't beating 'em off with a stick. I found enough dates and even married one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/24 06:42 PM |
| 6 | Which of these men is more appealing to a woman?There's a lot left in the spectrum between someone making 80k and Epstein owning an island rich. A bald, fat man, making 300k doesn't have women lining up for him. i don't think just being 40 and well to do shows up as red flags. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/24 06:33 PM |
| 3 | Prostitution won’t work (change my mind)These people have posted a few examples where there are societies with prostitution, its accepted, its open, etc. And now you are moving the goal posts and asking if Thailand has 50% of its population involved in prostitution. Is there any job profession that 50% of the country is involved in?! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 06:54 PM |
| 10 | Men of this sub, do you believe that most men have practically no standards?I think it all depends. Personally: 2-3am, after a few drinks, I'm pretty sure most men's standards have plummeted. A girl to introduce to your friends, I'd have higher standards. A girl to introduce to your parents and marry, definitely have very high standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/24 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: How is approaching random women out in the streets any better than online dating?I am 100% pro online dating. I met the woman I eventually married thru an app, and there was likely 0% I would have met her otherwise (none of our social circles would have overlapped). I used to have the same disdain/shame for online dating...but then realized all the women in my life, coworkers, etc were on the apps and using it. It would be hard to believe everyone on the apps were only bad actors...similar to thinking girls you meet at the club are all whores (which isn't true). The apps are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 11:42 PM |
| 2 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenI guess you are not degenerate enough...I'm just glad you aren't someone too young or morally upstanding to not even know what that is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 10:06 PM |
| 2 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womengod imagine tho? haha. What a great time to be a man if it was socially expected that if i approached I'd at least leave with a HJ. For sure mental health (men) would be at an all time high. Likely most women would just stay home out fear or fatigue, so also a green environmental bonus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 10:01 PM |
| 3 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenits a common sexual act involving hands | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 09:57 PM |
| 7 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting women(i agree with you) Its hilarious that OP is essentially saying its hard being a man, fearing rejection which stereotypically is a male experience in the dating market. Your advice is sack up? Yet you found being a man so hard, you decided it was easier to switch teams, bolt on some tits and start disparaging men?! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 09:55 PM |
| -3 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenclearly a joke...but also maybe not that clearly then. Edit: the ridiculousness of getting a HJ should have been cue that this was a joke, you are fun at parties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 09:44 PM |
| 2 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenconsolation HJ...? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 09:36 PM |
| 1 | Are bluePillers more fortunate and privileged than redPillers ?Ok, I get you. Its just that when you say "systemic" it suggests a much more grim reality. Like systemic racism is way worse than just people being racist. Societal preferences have always been a thing. I mean until society/religion outlawed polygamy, there were even more lonely men. In fact, outlawing polygamy is actually a systemic change that benefited lower quality men. I feel dating has always been a challenge. Men have always been on the hook to chase and impress a woman with many other … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 12:54 AM |
| 0 | Are bluePillers more fortunate and privileged than redPillers ?Most of what you've said isn't systemic...its cultural/societal preferences and norms. If girl is promiscuous, but extremely attractive, she would find success in most cultures/times. If a guy is good looking enough, there are more women willing to pay for a date. Systemic would be it is illegal for restaurants to accept payment from a women if there is a man present at the table. Women naturally are more picky because they are the market makers. I do agree with you tho, women are benefitting fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/24 11:45 PM |
| 0 | Are bluePillers more fortunate and privileged than redPillers ?Yea, I mean feminism cropped up because of a male dominated society and oppression of an entire gender. I'm guess they disagree with red pill because they do not see men as a disparaged class. Or better yet, they do not see themselves as an advantaged class hence there are still many feminist movements. Just like people taking anti stances on BLM, American Dream, White privilege, feminism, etc...most people likely have a hard time seeing themselves as privileged and feel attacked if their outcom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/24 10:33 PM |
| 1 | Are bluePillers more fortunate and privileged than redPillers ?Yea, i'm only here cause I went too deep into the YT algorithm. Looking up politics, trump...naturally leads to "woke"/liberal counter points, which leads to feminism. Counter to feminism is usually MGTOW, incel, MRA, etc. So now I'm here, looking for some common ground. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/24 08:37 PM |
| 3 | Are bluePillers more fortunate and privileged than redPillers ?Or blue pill could be life is good so why complain? I grew up on Disney, they told me be kind and chivalrous and I deserve some princess. If as an adult, I'm good looking and rich, I'm gonna assume that Disney was correct. You don't even realize the Pills exist until you go through tough times. No matches, no quality dates, cheated on, divorce, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/24 07:15 PM |
| -2 | Is it true that most guys think they would do better in dating if they were bringing in all the money?I would imagine this playing out 3 ways. Husband makes all the money; wife handles the children and the household. Clear division of labor. Husband has all the pressure to provide, while the wife has to work within the bounds of the budget provided. i feel like this would be good as each person is doing what they do best. I have personally never been in this dynamic, but I have friends currently doing it and they look happy. The true 50/50...I've never dated a woman that makes as much as me. I c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 07:42 PM |
| 2 | Is there any legitimate argument to be made for the superiority of women over men?Sure you can shoot a riffle, but can you carry the 100lb supply pack that comes with it? The body armor, the food, ammo, etc? Can you sling your 150-200lb partner on your back and carry them out of danger? Sure you can find jobs to do, but physical str/speed is still a component of any warfare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 09:24 PM |
| 14 | Do unattractive women get hit up for sex more than attractive ones?Your attractive friend is getting hit up for sex as well, even more than your unattractive friends. It's just the men she's going on dates with are higher quality and/or value her more. So I'm going to take her to a nice place, treat her right, basically convince her to give me and chance and sleep with me. If she asked any of her dates if they wanted to sleep with her right now, she'd have a far higher success rate than you less attractive friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 02:27 AM |
| – | The Best Way To Meet Women Based On Your Personal Attributes.Bars and Nightclubs. Tho I'm 100% pro online dating, it's here to stay. I feel like however you are rated, there's not replacement for the large number of people you'd have access to via online dating. I do understand that in its current form with its current customer base its sometimes unfair for certain level of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/24 09:42 AM |
| 2 | Are relationship worth it?I enjoy reminiscing about adventures and good times had. With a LTR, that person is always there, through the ups and down...they are supposed to be there for you. You may have friends that you act a certain way around, but you are around that LTR too much for you to fake it that long, so they generally accept you for who you really are. Until I got married I found it a waste since all these memories I was making with other gfs were all just temporary as we'd eventually move on....sorta saw it a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/24 01:09 AM |
| 2 | Redpill men: How much money do you make? Do you feel that you make enough to provide for both you and your (real or hypothetical) spouse?Yes, at the very least most likely to set you up for financial stability and actionable advice. Like, "Don't waste your time with college, just pick up a basketball...make it to the NBA and become a millionaire" is likely horrible advice for the 99% of the population that would never even play D1 ball. Prudent advice would be go into nursing, doctor, pharmacy, software, accountant, etc as if you can pass you are more than likely to get that 100-200k salary (that the person was already impressed … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/24 08:02 AM |
| 1 | Redpill men: How much money do you make? Do you feel that you make enough to provide for both you and your (real or hypothetical) spouse?Sure 150k w2 worker is broke compared to a business owner net'n over 1M a year. Just like Besos thinks you are some poverty person as well. Your advice is completely useless to the common man. Own a business or already have enough money to buy SUBSTANTIAL equity in other peoples business (via stocks you can buy miniscule equity in other's companies). I'm pretty sure the person asking the question belongs to the 99% and would just like to improve their life and not go into bankruptcy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/24 07:53 AM |
| 1 | Redpill men: How much money do you make? Do you feel that you make enough to provide for both you and your (real or hypothetical) spouse?So is your advice to be a business owner? That’s no where near foolproof. I know plenty of business owners that went out of business. Construction is a great industry as a whole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/24 07:29 AM |
| 8 | Redpill men: How much money do you make? Do you feel that you make enough to provide for both you and your (real or hypothetical) spouse?Choosing the right industry absolutely matters. We're talking averages when we give advice. You are absolutely right, you could claim being the HR manager of a huge corp or even the personal secretary of a very successful CEO will earn you 200k/yr...but when everyone becomes a secretary, they'll find avg salaries much lower. I work in tech, as a software engineer. The avg earns well into the 100-200k range. With many sr. earning 200-500k range. You could earn even more as unicorn top tier engine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/24 07:10 AM |
| 0 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?I mean OP presented a compromise. Women would get unilateral choice of whether the baby is carried to term (which they don't have Nationwide), men would have a say if they wanted to financially support the child (obviously if they pass, they would give up their claim to the child). If I were a religious man, and/or I found it morally wrong to terminate an unplanned pregnancy (aside from malicious trickery/rape) I have 0 say in the manner. While most would say you can't tell me what to do with my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 08:21 AM |
| 1 | Would you leave a man you love if he refused to marry you?You know what, 100% I agree with your first point. While unmarried it's your responsibility to treat your relationship as a business...but that is likely very hard. In the case of a SAHP, you'd have to negotiate a "wage" to keep everything above board which is very unlikely. I was only considering 50/50 earning partners where all finances are separate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 05:53 AM |
| 0 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?If the argument was that simple, you could also say if you don't want to deal with a dead beat father, absentee father, etc don't have sex. Take responsibility for your own bc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 05:24 AM |
| 1 | Would you leave a man you love if he refused to marry you?I've seen the statistic at 50% even higher at times. Even if we take your 40% of marriages end in divorce as gospel, its still such a high percentage that I would argue the act of marriage has nothing to do with a successful 2 person household or offer any further grantees to a mother (other than financial). 100% it is better to have a 2 person household. We're not getting anywhere, I'm clearly also biased. I guess I would be the in the minority on the hook for alimony and child support, so I cl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 05:12 AM |
| 1 | Would you leave a man you love if he refused to marry you?If you are considering "safety", sounds like the only safe bet is have a child with someone of economic means. Someone who would be on the hook for child support and/or alimony. Being married isn't the difference maker since 50% of the time you'd become a single mother anyway. You'd only have access to reasonable child support and/or alimony if the person is of means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Would you leave a man you love if he refused to marry you?When being married, has a 50% of making you a single mother...I'd assume that the getting married part really isn't the deciding factor in whether you become a single mother or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 12:48 AM |
| -1 | Would you leave a man you love if he refused to marry you?Sure, ok. then are you agreeing with the spirit of my statement? Having a baby with your husband vs baby daddy has the same real world risk. Another commenter stated that only 10% of people paid alimony, you are saying child support is avg $400 (not enough and also unpaid)...so there is no protection to being married. Sounds like more important that your marriage status is having a child with the "right person" or at the very least one richer than you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 11:35 PM |
| 4 | Would you leave a man you love if he refused to marry you?If you are saying that child support is unpaid and and women do not expect alimony...then how is an unmarried mother worse off than a baby mama? I didn't realize alimony awards were so low (learned something new). Unfortunately (also fortunately), I would likely be in the 10% paying out alimony if anything were to go sideways for me. I'm assuming its the vocal of that 10% that would complain, poor broke men were never concerned about alimony payments and would likely marry you on a whim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 11:26 PM |
| -3 | Would you leave a man you love if he refused to marry you?When people state marriage is dangerous for men, its more that DIVORCE is dangerous for men, and greatly benefits women (average). Even in a marriage that guarantees to last forever, I'm not sure if a man benefits more than a woman from that relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 09:45 PM |
| -2 | Would you leave a man you love if he refused to marry you?I mean the extremely high divorce rate at least marriage doesn't mean what it used to anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 09:37 PM |
| -7 | Would you leave a man you love if he refused to marry you?if he left you you'd still get child support (even unmarried). If he could avoid paying you that cause he's too broke, he's also too broke to pay you alimony. I don't feel like getting married before having children really provides you anymore protection...unless you think child support isn't enough and you'd like more of his paycheck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 09:30 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Although it should remain legal, it is immoral for a woman to remain pregnant if the man doesn’t want the child.Well in the good 'ol USA its a civil matter, so not a Rape...but this is all besides the point. Stealthing deals with a man stealthily removing a condom mid sex, not a woman trying to get pregnant unilaterally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 07:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Although it should remain legal, it is immoral for a woman to remain pregnant if the man doesn’t want the child.I found the post, is was a Drake + IG girl story, but I would assume was fake....hilarious tho. I did not know it had a name "stealthing" and would be considered rape. Short googl'n says that it's not a criminal offense but civil...so nothing like rape. And of course stealthing is targeted at men and when they stealthy removed the condom while having sex. Does not really account for "safe days" and taking the pill lies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 12:02 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Although it should remain legal, it is immoral for a woman to remain pregnant if the man doesn’t want the child.No, you could have consensual sex, but still steal sperm. Lying about being on the pill, damaging the condom, etc. There was even some cases where either a rapper or athlete would douse his used condoms in hot sauce or something to deter their questionable partners from introducing it post sex to baby trap them (this sounds so ridiculous you'd have to look it up to verify could have just been a joke). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/24 11:31 PM |
| – | How do you split the finances?Your joint account can be made part of a divorce claim, just like any other accounts you own. Unless you can prove the account was funded with non communal money. One benefit of a joint account is that you have full visibility into your partners finances. I'd rather not get to a large purchase and find out my wife doesn't have the money to help since she spent everything that hit her account. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/24 08:03 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Although it should remain legal, it is immoral for a woman to remain pregnant if the man doesn’t want the child.If you are considering morals only, I think the pro life folks would have an easy argument for the moral high ground. Abortion is an action, unnatural one at that, so a choice. Pro lifers would argue conception = life (even just a bundle of cells). I think if you can prove some malicious intent on the woman's part to steal or trick the man, then you could also say its immoral. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/24 07:41 PM |
| 1 | I Think There's Room for a Men's Liberation Front - Let's Talk About ItYes, you can train a woman to shoot. Body armor, equipment, ammo, rations, supplies weigh a lot. If you are next to her and get injured can she lift you and drag you out of danger? Sure, drone pilot, pilot, support roles, etc...i specifically listed the trenches and boots on the ground efforts. Much like ukr/rus, Afghanistan, there were an immense amount of ground troops. If I were fighting in that capacity, I would choose to have a man next to me. I've had this conversation with someone else on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 07:09 PM |
| 1 | I Think There's Room for a Men's Liberation Front - Let's Talk About ItI do not think the Hitler youth is the knock out punch you are looking for. Also, I'll admit my knowledge of the war isn't great...were there more women than Nazi youth on the front lines? or did even Nazis see women has not capable combatants. Also, in wartime the HJ/DJ were collecting recyclables and messengers. Service into their actual militia were for 16+. I would take more 16yr old boys to fight in ground warfare before I take women. I feel you are being ridiculous, but maybe you are a bea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/24 07:01 AM |
| 2 | I Think There's Room for a Men's Liberation Front - Let's Talk About Itweird example. Military packs are 50-200lbs, the javelin loaded is 50lbs itself. You are comparing it to children in a war torn desperate situation...running around in civilian clothing with a sticky bomb. if you are signing off on putting our women on the front lines in lululemons, sure you have a point. my past gfs, wife...weigh between 95 - 130lbs, they rarely played sports, at most they run and do yoga...everyone of them has asked me to open a jar...or carry the big bag of rice. I think you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/24 05:37 AM |
| 1 | I Think There's Room for a Men's Liberation Front - Let's Talk About ItMy point is it hasn’t. You still need boots on the ground and front line soldiers. If your argument is majority of service people are drone pilots, then sure 50% active combat should be women. Otherwise draft women as well, find them jobs they can excel at. Imagine being in Ukraine, get shot as a 200lb man, and your squad is just women…the better than average woman isn’t carrying your 200lbs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/24 04:46 AM |
| 1 | I Think There's Room for a Men's Liberation Front - Let's Talk About It100% you don’t want obese people in the trenches, on a submarine, on a boat, etc. I was not alive during the draft, I’m assuming men put on the front line were functioning and not riding handicap scooters. There are likely just as many obese women as men, and they should be excluded from the trenches. An Olympian athlete isn’t out running a drone or a bullet, doesn’t change the fact you want capable individuals next to you on the front line. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/24 04:32 AM |
| 3 | I Think There's Room for a Men's Liberation Front - Let's Talk About ItI find that men are not punished for opening up to other man, if they are your friends they'd hear you out. I could appreciate we're mostly hardwired to not open up as children, but seems like society is already moving towards acceptance of various mental issues. If you open up to your friends, they are not likely to leave you...but if you open up to your partner, they could see you as less than for procreation and future family viability. In short I do agree men should be able to express themse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/24 11:19 PM |
| 2 | I Think There's Room for a Men's Liberation Front - Let's Talk About It- Length of jail terms; sure punishment for same crime should be the same regardless of gender, but this likely affects very few people. (So probably not worth the focus) - Expectation of violence. In terms of war, I think women should be drafted as well into support roles. You likely do not want 50% women in the trenches with you where strength and speed are likely difference makers. I mean they'd counter fighting on the streets with getting r.ped so that's likely a dead end conversation. What … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/24 10:45 PM |
| 2 | How many men here would agree to be homemakers, caregivers AND breadwinners as many married women are?If those are 35% of the tasks, then sure. I know you are implying that’s all men do…maybe you just have trash men in your life? I wash the cars, change oil, change brakes, clean the garage, put things in storage, snake the drains, maintain plumbing, clean the floors, help with the kids, do dishes, grocery shopping together, help with laundry…while making 3x more than her. Men do a lot of the dirty heavy house work…just cause it’s not daily, women think we’re do nothing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 02:56 AM |
| 2 | How many men here would agree to be homemakers, caregivers AND breadwinners as many married women are?If we're laying out numbers like this...she's bringing in 66% of the finances...she should be responsible for 35% of the house work. If we're being utilitarian about it. Some people would like to base it on hours work at the job, but I really think its the compensation that you bring home that is truly important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 12:44 AM |
| 3 | Why do men say women have high standards?I mean we're generally in different modern times...housewives already expect husbands to help around the house and help raise their children. While men are having a harder time making all the money that a family will need. You claim there is nothing inherently wrong with wives making more than husbands, and claim that men are the ones that wouldn't allow this...but have said yourself that you wouldn't sign up for a life of poverty. Men and women in 100% traditional roles are becoming rarer and r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 09:26 AM |
| 2 | Why do men say women have high standards?My wife has the same outlook as you and to be honest if I had a daughter I'd likely influence her the same way. Wealth and ambition while not the most important things are 100% necessary in our society and if you can set yourself up for an easier life why not. The man in me would argue: Men in the last/current generation have been more than ok marrying a low potential earning, 0 ambition woman. (and not every man was abusive back then) Now that women account for more than 50% of the college grad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 04:17 AM |
| 3 | Why do men say women have high standards?I believe the stats to be true, or as accurate as its gonna get for this matter. Your logic is akin to i only hang out at the country club, and claiming average is someone with 20k disposable income for dues, multimillion dollar home, 200k/yr income, etc. The women in your family is such a grossly small subset, maybe they are very attractive, went to the right schools, have the right social circle, work at the right jobs, etc. To be fair, 4% of just 25-35 demo equates to like 1.8M ppl, so there … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 02:19 AM |
| 7 | Why do men say women have high standards?https://igotstandardsbro.com/ I believe it uses US census data to power it. If you search for single men, 25-35, at least 5'7, not fat, and making 80k/year, that's only 3.6% of people nationwide. I 100% agree with your statement that tall girls suffer from the height-ism as well. The fact that you are taller than average in US, is likely a hinderance to your dating prospects. I think most men just want to be taller than their girl, but I've heard from many friends that men have to just be 6fee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 12:13 AM |
| 1 | Dating Apps Are a disaster for RelationshipThing is all 4 of your blockers exist in non Dating App as well and the only way to fix it is the "victim" has to have better radar/EQ to not get "tricked". I'm a huge proponent of the dating app (OLD). Its greatest strength is likely also its perceived weakness...large numbers. You have large number of possibilities, reach well beyond your social circles, date more, date faster, find the "one". But also due to its endless possibilities people may suffer greatly from grass in greener thinking … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 11:59 PM |
| 1 | What do you have against men who have android phones instead of iPhones?To be fair, the experience with green and blue bubble chatting is not good, especially in group chat scenarios. This is a real thing, Apple hamstrings the blue/green interaction...at least they don't seem to be investing time/effort to making it a better experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Its fine if its agreed that the breadwinner doesn't do house choresWith earnings equalizing sooner than later, I'm sure women will change their tune about hours of work > value of work. Strip away gender, does the argument stay the same? I think its wild that the amount the job pays is not the single deciding factor. If I work 10hrs at the game stop making 35-40k a year, and my wife is a doctor working 6hrs making 300k a year...I don't think it would be right for me to come home and complain that the house is dirty or dinner isn't on the table. Sure I worked mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Its fine if its agreed that the breadwinner doesn't do house choreswhat if the man works the same 7.5 hours, but in the field? what if 1 job pays significantly more? one job is more physically demanding? one job is more mentally demanding? Seems like just cause both people are out of the house for the same hours, their work isn't valued as such. Unless perfectly equal, someone likely has to work harder at home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Is "netflix and chill" / cinema date dead?I would gather "netflix and chill" is an even better date option. As movies are seemingly getting worse, very high chance whatever you choose to watch will be so bad you'll end up fooling around just out of boredom. The movie selections are so weak in theaters now, wife and I would rather spend our time and money doing something else. Also, what is film + popcorn/etc these days...like $40 for 2 ppl...and we still need to go to like 80$++ dinner. We can find something more interesting to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/23 07:56 PM |
| 2 | Why is there no #TradHusband movement?Yea, if that's the case...just lean into it I guess. Pump your own numbers up! I still can't believe that's the reality, there have to be girls with long term relationships that don't have the time to pump body count. But you guys are younger and living the reality, so you are the experts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Women of Reddit, does your potential man’s salary important? What is a reasonable $# you’d accept?Wow... I never said anything about the “average man” though. I stated I would want someone at least middle class or even upper middle class like myself, and estimated somewhere around 100k. Our entire exchange is me telling you that 100k is not the average man, and you somehow trying to prove that 100k is reasonable for the average single 40yr man. You have stats telling you clearly that 100k isn't average, so you are trying to extrapolate data to prove if you are 40+, married, man, the average/… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Women of Reddit, does your potential man’s salary important? What is a reasonable $# you’d accept?You wrote a lot to simply say, what my partner makes (now/future) is very important to me and a barometer of a successful man. I don't know what success is or have no idea how to quantify it so you can't provide a number. if you truly are an "obnoxious over achievers" and finances are important to you, likely you should know what success looks like. Otherwise you could be failing or off track. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Women of Reddit, does your potential man’s salary important? What is a reasonable $# you’d accept?You want what you want. I'm sure some people would see this as a red flag. Do you find highly educated women too independent, argumentative, challenging, brainwashed, etc? Is it just too much college debt to carry? You are looking more for a housewife? you want to be even more intellectually superior? I'm sure you have your reasons. I myself do not hold any advanced (greater than AS/BS) degrees, nor have i dated any women with them, so I have no experience. I've dated a pharmacist (if that cou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 08:39 PM |
| 3 | Women of Reddit, does your potential man’s salary important? What is a reasonable $# you’d accept?I'm not sure why how much you make, determines what median, average, or absurdity is? If you were at that country club would you also assume the median net worth of American's was 20M..since everyone you know at the club has at least that? I might make even more than you, but doesn't lead me to believe 110k is "average". Your 240k median for married with children is likely misleading. This filters out people who cannot afford to have children, people who are not married, etc. Additionally, thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 08:28 AM |
| 2 | Women of Reddit, does your potential man’s salary important? What is a reasonable $# you’d accept?The OPs question is your partner's salary important, and if so what is the number. Your follow up answer is: "he’s interested in economic advancement that roughly matches my goals for life, and is in the process of executing said plans. " followed by: "I don’t care what the actual career is; I looked for someone with that kind of passion and drive for success. And my vetting process included inquiring about that stuff. My fiancé and I are both obnoxious over achievers. That’s just how we are, an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 08:13 AM |
| 4 | Women of Reddit, does your potential man’s salary important? What is a reasonable $# you’d accept?I mean I think teachers are reasonable. In CA, they make 50-80k for 10 months of work. Their schedules align with your children’s vacation…not the best, not the worst thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 04:31 AM |
| 2 | Women of Reddit, does your potential man’s salary important? What is a reasonable $# you’d accept?I was just correcting the what I assume is a misconception that average men are making 110k even in Seattle. You are more than welcome to whatever standards you can land. It’s common to hear women expect their partners make as much as they do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 02:53 AM |
| 5 | Women of Reddit, does your potential man’s salary important? What is a reasonable $# you’d accept?I get the sentiment in the case of our favorite gender studies majors. There are doctors, pharmacists, engineers, lawyers, accountants, teachers, that can pay off a reasonable amount of debt fairly quickly. My wife came to me with 5 figure debt, she earns 6 figures, had enough in investments to pay off the debt outright. Just thought it odd that you discounted all college educated women with debt…there had to be exceptions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 02:49 AM |
| 2 | Women of Reddit, does your potential man’s salary important? What is a reasonable $# you’d accept?I believe that's the median household income. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 02:19 AM |
| 6 | Women of Reddit, does your potential man’s salary important? What is a reasonable $# you’d accept?Isn't this just a roundabout way to answer the question? Like you are judging career goals/ambitions with an estimation of what he should earn after? Like He's studying to be a doctor, in med school passing, paying bills vs "famous" DJ, working the local dive, used turntables bought in cash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Women of Reddit, does your potential man’s salary important? What is a reasonable $# you’d accept?What is your reasoning behind this? What if they have the earning potential to service that debt and eventually far out earn the level of debt? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 02:07 AM |
| -1 | Q4A:Opinions about provocative dressingIf I wear a Warrior's jersey you can safely assume I'm a Warrior fan. If your T and A are hanging out, tramp stamp, clear heels...i'm gonna assume you are playing for the hoe team (correctly or incorrectly). You might think flashing a bit of cleavage, under boob, ass cheek might be cute/hot...but the men are thinking if i press hard enough this women is down to F. You are correct to believe that you shouldn't be responsible for someone else's misconceptions but that doesn't change what the outco… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 09:23 PM |
| 2 | Why is there no #TradHusband movement?I mean I’m not gen z, but the majority of woman are not adult industry workers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 12:18 AM |
| 2 | There is a minimum amount of money an individual should be expected to pay for a traditional engagement ring.Man, you are super reasonable...haha I wish my wife was more inline with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 08:22 PM |
| 3 | Why is there no #TradHusband movement?How common are these things? - I'm pretty sure men are still expected to pay for dates (especially first ones). - Guys i'm sure are willing to pick you up. There's a better chance you get "lucky" if you do. I would have thought women are requesting to drive themselves so they aren't hostages on these dates. - Yea guys are looking to hook up before parental meetings...but this has always been the case. It's the woman that is protecting her dignity by not sleeping with a man that isn't her husband… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 08:09 PM |
| 3 | Why is there no #TradHusband movement?is this really your experience? I've never heard the same men calling for traditional wives also worried about their income. I have heard the modern man looking for a modern partner demanding 50/50. I'm with you, if you want to be traditional, be traditional all the way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 08:01 PM |
| 11 | Why is there no #TradHusband movement?I would guess cause most men see themselves as traditional or at least that's what they want to achieve. You don't start a movement for the majority, movements are to buck the status quo...like MGTOW. It is likely women that should start the #SeekingTradHusband trend as a counter to current feminism trends. Basically it would be women seeking to give up college, career, sexual freedom in exchange for putting all the economic pressures back on their men. It's probably easy to give up responsibili… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 06:41 AM |
| 1 | The biggest mistake of passport broIf you are from the EU, its smaller than the US. Some of the countries in the EU require a passport to travel between them. If the US states were countries themselves, likely most would have passports...places like NY, CHI, Miami, CA, Hawaii, Tx, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on the concept of the 'Better guys" dating app? What does the design say about women's expectations in online dating?Sounds like you are getting ghosted a lot if this is high on your how to fix OLD apps. I just treat it as par for the course. Hulah is at least trying something new, but i agree with you, I don't believe it'll work. They could make it the digital version of getting into trendy club. Guy has to bring at least as many if not more women to get in. "Creepy" guys have to buy a table to get in | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 07:30 PM |
| 2 | Is dying alone really such a bad fate and is dating really that important?Sorry for your situation, sounds like you are at least being honest. Solving your financial situation makes the most sense. It's something you have the most control over and it's necessary whether you are coupled or alone when you get to the end of days. Good luck out there, hope it gets better for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Men don’t put in the effort yet they complain about their lack of dating successI'm neither of those. I'm someone who dates women and I am simply making an observation regarding the trendline. These effort posts are stupid because there is a systemic issue You literally said this...in which case I argue effort is good (while not always fair) and there is no systemic issue. I have no problems, my genes and way of thinking will be spread through my offspring. While you stay mad and sad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 11:28 PM |
| 1 | Men increasing their standardsThat's wild...that he wouldn't propose until she made 50k/year. Like you said, if they were to have kids (2+), their childcare costs would likely be way higher than 50k. I think more than 1/2 the country makes less than 50k a year. I have a mixed group of friends. The affluent ones mostly have stay at home wives, and usually brag about what good mothers they are. The less affluent ones have working wives, they aren't specifically proud of them for their jobs, but they don't talk down on them eit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Men don’t put in the effort yet they complain about their lack of dating success100% eclipses mine...I'm sure the last time you got your dick wet an ATM was involved. You read of desperation...you can so easily fantasize that you have a higher body count and are intellectually superior to someone you haven't met. Regardless, I'll stand by trying is better than not trying. There is no systemic reason why you can't procreate...its pretty clear its your personality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Men don’t put in the effort yet they complain about their lack of dating successYour solution to this is "promote a wider variety in mass media"...I think you are more likely to be successful promoting government assigned mates. If we are to believe the "go woke go broke" crowd, you pushing poor, obese, sadboys, "ugly", "short kings" men are not gonna drive up your mating opportunities. I share your worry and empathy for today's youth, hence I'm on this sub. The only solutions that an individual has is try harder to attract a mate AND try seek out good traits that promote t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Men don’t put in the effort yet they complain about their lack of dating successI do not believe scientist or the government should get involved in determining who should mate (a la eugenics). You let the market NATURALLY decide. Your trash tier genes are unfortunately not desirable...are you arguing that the government should step in and assign you a mate? I agree society is promoting largely useless traits, pretty, handsome, tall, etc...where as good immune system, long life, smart, ingenuity and stable mental health should be the traits we hold most dear. But again we're… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Men don’t put in the effort yet they complain about their lack of dating successYou 100% have right to complain about whatever you want; but your right to societal empathy varies. "Wah" I was born with no fingers, super sad. "Wah" I didn't listen when they said stop playing with fireworks, a lot less empathy. Rejection is hard, I don't want to try VS i was born with deformations no one will look at me. large swaths of people not being able to pass on their genetic material is not really a problem (maybe as a mental issue as seen by incels and a population numbers issue). It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Do you feel online dating is alienating the sexes more?I'm telling you "good looking" men have always slummed it, even in real life. The booty call, the friends with benefits, the work wife, weekday dates, the last call, etc. I 100% agree its even lower effort now, but its also lower effort for all men to hit on and meet women. Women could get harem'd in real life as well as OLD and they can fairly easily avoid it in most cases. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Do you feel online dating is alienating the sexes more?If it can just as easily happen in real life, I wouldn't put additional blame on OLD. Women that believe they can change the person or fall for the halo effect will do so in real life as well, this is not an OLD problem. The only thing that OLD does is ease the barrier to entry of relationships, which means it has to do so to all forms of relationships. I've dated multiple women at the same time pre OLD, the only barrier is that you need to socialize regularly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Do you feel online dating is alienating the sexes more?Ah the good life...I feel like i live in one of the toughest markets for men in US. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 07:15 PM |
| 0 | I've never understood why famous male celebrities chose to date/marry other female celebritiesWell clearly they're doing something really wrong cause celebrity divorce rate is grossly high. Don't read too much into it, these famous people aren't normally dating cause of thoughts, opinions, decisions, etc...Normally a PR stunt, or you are pretty and rich, and I am pretty and rich, why not? To be fair tho, plenty of celebrities marry "poor villagers" all the time. They just don't go to the mud huts of Africa to do so. They marry their backup dancers (britney spears), body guards, less know… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 08:35 AM |
| 4 | Do you feel online dating is alienating the sexes more?There might be some truth to your "blindness theory", but I would argue if the women didn't want to be a victim to this, its pretty easy. HVM in a bar/club can maybe get away with talking/dancing with a handful of women and traditionally only go home with 1 of them. In the online dating world, this is "kind of" the same. A HVM only has 1 fri night/1 sat night. If a guy is calling you at 11pm on fri, you are plan D, E, of F. If you make it to a date, and you refuse to round the bases until you ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 08:19 AM |
| 0 | Do you feel online dating is alienating the sexes more?I 100% married my wife because of the apps. I'm a huge proponent of dating apps, but understand there are a lot of bad actors, skepticism, and algorithms working against you. The apps provide large numbers and would not require serendipity to work out. While I'm not particularly shy, I only ever hitting on women in a social setting with liquid courage included. The chances of running into my wife or being introduced to her was basically 0 for us, so the app saved the day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 08:10 AM |
| 2 | Do you feel online dating is alienating the sexes more?I think you'd represent the higher tier candidate on dating apps. if you aren't exaggerating and are saying you only swipe right on 5% of the women AND you get 2 dates a week. Are you also avoiding the snapchat/ig/hooker accounts? Most men would tell you they swipe with lower standards and get even fewer matches. My personal experience is that I swiped on women that would range from avg to hot (my scale). If only avg women responded to me that week/weeks, that's who I would talk to or even possi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 07:57 AM |
| 0 | If men cared about a woman's money, then women would fight against poor-shaming.Thing is if you plan to have 2+ kids, most people do not make enough money to cover daycare for 2+, so for men looking for women AND interested in 2+ children are looking for stay at home mothers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 07:42 AM |
| 1 | Men increasing their standardsSorry, not an attack on you tho. Maybe just gotta be in locations with more men, higher cost of living, immigrant, or heavily religious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Men increasing their standardsYea, i'm not sure what area you are from, the type of ppl you date, but I've honestly never heard any man not date a woman solely on how much she made. I have heard of men wishing they would chip in on dates, or at least be willing to go on cheaper dates. But never I have heard a man say they weren't gonna date a girl cause the girl was poor. I've also never heard a friend brag his gf had a good job and 401k | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Men increasing their standardsI think we've interacted before, its interesting, almost being from different worlds. Every woman I've dated has expected some level of participation in housework. I feel like there is more expectation on men to be able to pay more than their own bills. I have never demanded my potential wife could fully fund her retirement, pay 1/2 a mortgage and life. I do agree with you that I've looked for women with a job and no crippling CC debt. I was on OLD for about a year, every woman expected I paid f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 10:32 PM |
| 2 | Men increasing their standardsCover model? most women with all the modern marvels are not attaining that. Regular ass men are not demanding model status. The average dude, sex is worth more than beauty standards. I've never heard of any majority of men refusing women cause they weren't IG enough. If you can LTR a model, then that's your level. There's no man that has never LTR a model, sitting around waiting on that model. The 30day rule isn't just time, that's basically 30days of effort. I know i'm not wasting 30days of eff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 09:12 PM |
| 2 | Men increasing their standardsI don't think "have a job" can really be considered high standards. Since more and more women have joined the workforce traditional wife/mom skills are on the decline. I think most modern men are willing to trade in cooking/cleaning ability for some economic stability. Also, men are definitely expected to pick up slack at home (which they should and I understand they don't always). Anecdotally, the 20 or so women I dated thru college into adulthood, maybe 1-2 could actually cook. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 07:17 PM |
| 6 | Men increasing their standardsYou can't really push female beauty standards on men, women did this to themselves. If women refused elective surgeries, make up, heels, etc men would still choose from the lvl playing field. My personal experience, women judge other women's beauty much harder than men. Demanding jobs/goals AND raising kids is definitely unfair, but I believe men and women are trying for a better balance. I know I'm working with my wife on that. The 30day (or whatever variance to this) rule is the best way to "f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 06:59 PM |
| 6 | Men who require paternity tests, are you willing to do multiple paternity tests performed by a medical professional and under witness observation?I'm pretty sure the vast majority of men and women that get cheated on in "committed" relationships didn't see it coming. Really it should just be standard procedure hospitals do when you are handed your baby. I have heard a hot take that gov would never support this as there would be "many" births credited to the wrong father putting more stress on society with the creation of more single mothers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 08:03 PM |
| 0 | Why is asking for a paternity test a relationship ender?I gave you statistics of married women cheating? Sounds like your claim of rare and non existent might be faulty? Unless you have better evidence other than I would personally never cheat nor works my angelic gfs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 08:14 PM |
| 2 | Why is asking for a paternity test a relationship ender?I mean if you think women cheating is rare to non existent, then I’m assuming men seeking paternity tests are rare and non existent as well? 30 to 60 percent of married couples will cheat at least once in the marriage 74 percent of men and 68 percent of women admit they’d cheat if it was guaranteed they’d never get caught 60 percent of affairs start with close friends or coworkers An average affair lasts 2 years 69 percent of marriages break up as a result of an affair being discovered From some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 08:02 PM |
| 2 | Why is asking for a paternity test a relationship ender?You don’t think married people cheat? Also, a bf could accuse you as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 07:50 PM |
| 3 | Why is asking for a paternity test a relationship ender?Maury has made millions featuring women that do not know who the father of their child is and they "choose" the most well to do or available. This is also the case in many paternity courts in US. While you might believe these are only "ghetto" people, sadly much of America is really ghetto. Sure if you are 30+, struggling to try to have a child with your husband very unlikely that it's another man's. If you are in your 20s, one night stands, multiple bfs, believing in the pull out method...there… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 07:13 PM |
| 1 | How Common Is It For Women To Choose Not Hot Men So They Don’t Get Cheated On?My wife's opinion is that there is a chance that ugly and good looking partners will cheat on you, so you might as well get an attractive one. There's no benefit to dating down. Also, she claims that less desirable men seek out cheating more since they were attention starved, whereas an already attractive man is used to the attention. My stance is that dating down gets you that pedestal effect for only so long. The uggo that gets the dime piece will treat them like the unobtanium that they think… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 07:06 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men should stop caring that assholes have girlfriends.She asked who told you....not what factual proof study shows that being nice gets you something in life. Our ideals and views are molded by experiences and society as a whole. You might be an ultra aware and smart human being, BUT i'm sure most people have had their thoughts and actions modeled after what the see growing up (right or wrong). So why do adult women still watch romcoms and buy trashy novels? They crave the situations depicted fantasy or not. I'm not sure if you are a religious pers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 10:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men should stop caring that assholes have girlfriends.The Christian and American dream example are to further hammer home that we are told to be good/nice and will be rewarded. They are not exactly examples to get laid...they just reinforce the idea. You didn't ask for real life examples, you asked who told you being nice would get you the girl...I'm not sure why you'd discount "fiction" as that is the media young people are consuming. Instead of showing my son Cinderella, I'll tell him of Chris Brown. As long as you can dance and sing, you can sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 08:41 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Men should stop caring that assholes have girlfriends.Everyone is indoctrinated into this. Just like little girls dressing up as snow white, sleeping beauty, cinderella, etc. This doesn't stop girls from thinking they are as beautiful as the disney princesses and how a prince will come save them. Everyone grows up at different times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 08:16 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Men should stop caring that assholes have girlfriends.The movie "10 things I hate about you", which is based on Shakespeare's Taming of the Shrew. or really any romcom. Almost any fairy tale from the past ended with a prince saving a damsel and living happily ever after. Disney. Christianity, teaches be a good person, it'll all work out. The "American Dream", if you work hard enough you to can have the wife, kids, home, car and dog. There are more than a few "lies" we're told as children to ensure the vast majority of society continues to hum alo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 08:04 PM |
| – | I believe men struggle so much in dating because they no longer bring anything to the table.My entire comment was responding to a women claiming she has her house paid off, car paid off, and owns many businesses as if she's a beacon of how the average women doesn't need a man. I simply stated that she is no average women (nor human for that mater) and now you are telling me how much less women make regardless of reason...so I take it you are on my side? Specifically for your comment, I can see childbirth being a valid reason. I think the larger part of the gender gap is the industries … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 08:37 AM |
| – | I believe men struggle so much in dating because they no longer bring anything to the table.I had to look up that stat that single women buy more houses than single men, interesting. This doesn't change the fact that the person I was responding to doesn't represent an "average" person. She has a paid off home, car, and owns businesses. Most people in the west struggle with this as a couple let alone single. Also, if you are to believe the gender wage pay gap, then your claims are meaningless. Women make less money based on the jobs they choose to do pay less. More college doesn't alway… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 06:35 AM |
| – | I believe men struggle so much in dating because they no longer bring anything to the table.Sounds like you aren't the AVERAGE woman...let alone average human. I'm sure if we involve Taylor Swift, she could tell you as a single women she's making it just fine. If you look up stats, most people aren't doing well in any country at any cost of living. Women on avg make less money than men over all (not illegally, just that they are in professions that end up paying less). You never know, that person might be even more well off than you... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 05:30 AM |
| 1 | So, what is the solution, in your humble opinion? Date someone you are not attracted to?Attraction is absolutely "negotiable". You are not born with an innate attraction to a certain type. Your attraction is very much molded by society. It is under your control to change what you are attracted to. We could promote a long courtship where sex is withheld. The higher barrier to entry would make men be more selective with their time, and would be less likely to "slum it" (also, men could just not be whores, but that sounds like a harder fix). I believe this would better set a person's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 01:28 AM |
| – | I believe men struggle so much in dating because they no longer bring anything to the table.-Money. Most ppl can't afford life and retirement. You are correct, you don't need a man to have money or own property...but most individual's wages keeps them from doing so. -Emotional. Men are expected to listen to your problems AND NOT provide solutions. While we might not be good at it, we're still there. Comparing a golden retriever to a man is like comparing a prostitute to a woman. They almost have to like you. -Sex. Self stimulation has existed forever, we still exist as a species. While… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 12:29 AM |
| 1 | Being short it s a huge problem in males…bitches To be honest tho, I think women don’t want to be tall, heels are just make their legs and butt better looking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 06:27 AM |
| 2 | Being short it s a huge problem in malesEven if we aren’t all the same height it’s still beneficial. I’d you could add a few inches to well out of your partner’s height +heels is already a huge benefit. Not all girls are chasing a made up 6ft number, some are just tall and would like a partner’s taller than them…this could potentially help. Costs could also just be preventative enough that you’d have to make sacrifices…some will, some won’t. HPRX would likely solve some issues at least in the near term | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 10:40 PM |
| 0 | Being short it s a huge problem in malesIF we're all the same height then height is no longer a determining factor for social interactions. Height pumper would likely be cost preventative (money, pain, side effects, etc). There exists today a surgery to make you taller, but its exp, super painful, and i'm not sure if gain that many inches. Which is what women are combating today. Fake lashes, fake-up, nails, surgical enhancements, etc. Most women today use some combination of these things. I'm just saying if height pumper existed, dep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Being short it s a huge problem in malesHeight Pumper RX would not be meaningless, but may force everyone into using it to feel "normal". See women and breast and butt enlargement surgery. There are for sure men/women prefer real even if small...but you can't deny the number of augmented surgery is way up. Korea has a huge plastic surgery industry feeding on keeping up with each other. Generally the stereo type isn't women are only trying to date the tallest man, just men over a specific height (for made up reasons). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 09:41 PM |
| 7 | Are men more emotionally fragile than women?I think women likely go to therapy more than men because they've been shown from a young age to seek help. I grew up in the age of "boys don't cry", just pour some alcohol or iodine on it and go back outside, don't be a pssy (whatever other toxic tropes). I'm not sure on the measurable mental str of men vs women, but I believe men are less inclined to seek help or even talk about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 11:51 PM |
| 8 | Are men more emotionally fragile than women?I think women are given more support overall. Mental weakness more plays into the traditional gender role that women are weaker/precious/to be cared for. I feel women are treated better by their parents, partners, potential partners, other women (at least outwardly). There is no stigma for women/girls needing help, while i believe before the 2000s men/boys weren't the same. I didn't look for other stats, but women attend therapy TWICE as much as men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 09:58 PM |
| 3 | Women do use dating apps, but they stop using them quicker than men because they work for themI could agree with you that it might not matter...but on the off chance that is does for some ppl, I think you'd be doing yourself a disservice not writing something "interesting". Also, how can you be sure it doesn't matter? Maybe there was a dime ready to connect with you, but there was something in your profile that turned her off? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 08:39 PM |
| 4 | Women do use dating apps, but they stop using them quicker than men because they work for themThat’s how it works in real life as well… Online dating has the advantage of large numbers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Women do use dating apps, but they stop using them quicker than men because they work for themI'm a huge proponent of dating apps, and it definitely works for people. I know a few couple that made it to marriage. I found my wife on a dating app, we're happily married for a few years with a kids on the way. I agree the dating apps are made for money and while they aren't interested in being "too successful", relationships are hard enough they don't have to cheat their algorithms to make sure you fail (most ppl will do that naturally). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 06:51 PM |
| 5 | Women do use dating apps, but they stop using them quicker than men because they work for themMy wife claims she read my profile. There's just so much for her to choose from that just randomly messaging matched profiles would be tiresome. Of course there was physical attraction and enough in my profile for her to reach out. In contrast I did not read her profile prior to swiping or starting a conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 06:37 PM |
| 2 | How much would you rate yourself out of 10, and why?Yea, there weren't many women in common engineering courses, so I assume aerospace is just as bad. The companies pay for your clearances but it's a long process and don't do anything felonious. The pay wasn't as good while I worked in defense...I would suggest you try to work in the private sector first. The comp packages are more competitive (RSU/stocks), the people are prettier (def tends to have a lot of old people). Once you've made a good deal of money, you could always apply to a def compa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/23 08:06 PM |
| 1 | How much would you rate yourself out of 10, and why?I'm likely showing my age, but I would lower your social skills score just because you described yourself as CIS. You are a normal/regular/biological male, you can just describe yourself as "male" (as is the statistical majority of males in the world). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/23 07:58 PM |
| 2 | How much would you rate yourself out of 10, and why?Oh for sure Comp Sci. Move to the stupid Bay and make 2-500k/yr, BUT there are far more men than women here...so dating likely still sucks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/23 07:52 PM |
| 2 | How much would you rate yourself out of 10, and why?Forget trendy, stack that bread! It does suck that engineering jobs come with a stigma on the type of people that work that job. I think the general public thinks engineers are smart and make good money, but not as much as doctors, lawyers, bankers. The reality is that we could out earn those professions, just no one is marketing for us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/23 07:44 PM |
| 8 | CMV: men resent women for having standards?I’m with you, freedom of choice and all. As long as you aren’t later complaining how all men are trash and woe is me I deserve a mate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/23 11:23 PM |
| 4 | CMV: men resent women for having standards?As a man, I do not resent women for having standards, in fact it is VERY important to have a standards (freedom of choice and all). Its grating when you have high standards that go unfulfilled and they blame men rather than their own expectations. No man is resentful that a supermodel/star isn't giving them attention For ease of argument, I'll use simplified made up numbers: Your standards set for a man amounts to what the general public would consider an 8/10. If you regularly get attention f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/23 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Do men actually like the idea of “coaching” a woman through life and why?Their strong opinion makes them the lead in that decision. You'd generally like to lead in the things you do care about, and the things you don't care about you'd defer to your partner. If you need me to care about X in the same way, then you'd likely want me to be on the same page rather than differing. Until you find someone that cares about everything you care about in the same exact way, it is more harmonious to find someone that will let you lead in those specific decisions. If you were ver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Do men actually like the idea of “coaching” a woman through life and why?So you are passionate about X...and I too am passionate about X. You would then start doing X the way I want it to be done? Or would you rather be with a partner that doesn't care how X is done and is happy to do it your way? I would venture that you are objectively happier in this situation. Sure, likely impossible to find a relationship where no compromises need to be made, but then it makes sense you would seek a relationship with as few of these situations...hence a leadership role would be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 09:28 PM |
| 1 | Do men actually like the idea of “coaching” a woman through life and why?So yea, you are in finance...that is your realm of knowledge. You would like to "coach" your partner to do it your way. If he started pushing back telling you all banks are frauds and we're keeping money under the mattress...you now have a problem. You'd much rather date a man that doesn't have a strong feeling and would allow you to manage your family's finances the way you think it should be....generally be lead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Do men actually like the idea of “coaching” a woman through life and why?No one said scared. Think of your own life; things that you are passionate about, done your way. You'd like to coach your partner into doing it the same way, sure constructive criticism is fine, but if they are also passionate about doing it a different way you are now at an impasse. one either has to fold their passion, or you both compromise and neither is fully happy...in my experience is very rare that there is a compromise where both are happier than if they had made the entire decision on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Do men actually like the idea of “coaching” a woman through life and why?Well, sounds like you are all for coaching haha! I agree with you, shouldn't just close your eyes while your accounts are drained and you have no access to your family's money. You can watch over the totals of the money without knowing how the sausage is made. Ideal or not, easy to see if a person is a coach in their realm, it runs much smoother. I'd argue your view is far more idealist in which each couple is perfectly aligned and life is lived in perfect harmony. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 08:51 PM |
| 2 | Do men actually like the idea of “coaching” a woman through life and why?i mean maybe your friends are super smart. but there are huge professional companies that handle everything for you, subreddits with thousands of questions on finance and taxes...the world is fairly complicated and non of this is freely taught in HS or even college without specific classes. I mean relationships are unnecessarily vulnerable to begin with. That's the core of it. You should be along for the decision and learn along the way if you want to. Think about some menial tasks that you don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Do men actually like the idea of “coaching” a woman through life and why?It makes sense as it is likely the easiest way to avoid confrontation. There are usually many ways to "skin a cat", some better some worse. Maybe your way is better for some reason only you hold, while their way is better for a reason you don't value. Now you are in a multi hr "fight", rarest occasions you convince the other person of your way, mostly likely there's some compromise and no one gets everything they wanted originally. Now you are in a situation with a coach/leader; situations go mu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 08:07 PM |
| 7 | Your location is the biggest factor in success in datingThe trick would be they have to stay in those countries that they pick up women in. Once you import the woman, you are back to your market conditions...I wonder what the rate of divorce is for those types of couples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 07:05 PM |
| 3 | Online dating is not an accurate marker for your dating successIf you are striking out online, I can't imagine you are doing much better cold approaching people in coffee shops, bar/club, stores, etc. You are likely hoping for friends/family introduction, church intro, work friend, etc. These are likely still the easiest ways to meet someone, but the sheer numbers are just not in your favor. You are looking at a pool of a few hundred at best (true you only need 1). On OLD, you are looking/hitting on hundreds of women a day (if you choose to). Even if your m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 10:20 PM |
| 7 | Most people struggle because they overestimate what they have to offerIt doesn't only exist in the "West". This is true for Asia as well. So really in any developed, rich society, likely ppl will want more. An aside to that, maybe it also has to have a rich social media reach to obliterate peoples standards and expectations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 10:01 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men should looks-max/career-max for the highest overall successWe're discussing if women are more interested in status itself, or the money that comes with status. You can't compare the doctor before he actually becomes a doctor (and has the status). As a woman grows up, educated, paying bills will likely realize life is hard and you need a partner in life. The status of doc/lawyer/banker would likely be very appealing status, mainly do to the financial stability that it provides. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 09:38 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men should looks-max/career-max for the highest overall successlocal DJ does not have higher status than any doctor even in just SMV. Maybe while he's performing, with drunk chicken head 20yr olds. When you consider 28+ women, with a career, doctor trades on better status. I think your mistake is you're only considering Miami hoes, where the local drug dealer has the highest status...cause drugs and bottle service...in this case I would agree with you. Just name dropping doc isn't gonna get you the same pull. Most regular women aren't chasing status...at le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 06:47 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men should looks-max/career-max for the highest overall successI think for most high incomes, security, growth, are actually the important aspects of a partner's job. There is a minority that are interested in the status or the doors it opens for them personally. In reality, the majority of woman chasing status isn't for the status itself, its just that they don't have intimate knowledge of the career and depend on the status to assume income, security, growth...without being crass and asking point blank. Doctor, lawyer, ast to the regional manager...you wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 12:05 AM |
| – | Post-smartphone dating will be a disaster for future generationsI figure this is less smartphone thing, but more of a class/socioeconomic/ethnic/culture thing. Women need to pay attention to who they are opening their legs to, perhaps secure the ring, ensure there is a financial plan for the child and family in general. In the same sense, Men should have a financial plan in place, condom up, etc. Having children with different women would normally ruin a middle to upper middle class person, they couldn't financially afford it...its only the poor who can affo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 06:53 PM |
| 3 | You men who want traditional women, are u even ready to be traditional urselfThe traditional woman is very rare and likely due to the nature of society. On avg, a college graduate will perform better economically than non graduates. Last I checked there were more female graduates than male. So more women taking on debt and with higher earning potentials...that alone erodes the concept of traditional woman. Why should she concern herself with cooking or your shoes when she makes more money than her male counter part and has to work because of the financial stress her fami… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 09:36 PM |
| 1 | Dating App simulation and its resultsYour idea might have a chance, but I think what would just end up happening is everyone would tighten up what they swipe on, and "lower quality" men would get even less consideration. Nothing would currently stop people from creating multiple profiles. If a women felt she was only seeing lower quality men, she would just switch to the app giving her better options. It's hard to change the apps really, they don't care. They just want you to have enough success to keep playing, but not enough to l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 10:04 PM |
| 2 | Dating App simulation and its resultsif you were an attractive women, would you bother using this app...after a few iterations you'd be left with lower quality men, while potentially locking better matches in waiting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Dating App simulation and its resultsI did say the numbers proposed in the simulations did anecdotally feel accurate. You have to swipe thru 100-300 profiles and get a very small number of matches. Depending on how careful you are this could take you 30m-1hr. How many reasonable looking women do you run into daily? how many of those are even avail? People who can't pass the profile/bio smell test. are not gonna be able to cold approach and dazzle a stranger with their personality. I've never exchanged numbers at the coffee shop, gr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 05:10 PM |
| 0 | Dating App simulation and its resultsI'm a proponent of online dating as I met my wife thru it as well. The numbers in your simulation do feel somewhat accurate to real life experience with online dating. I would argue tho, the statistics of in person (complete strangers) connections are just as if not even more rare. OLD has the lowest barrier to entry, coupled with the power of large numbers, while conquering chance encounters and geography. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 10:07 PM |
| 2 | Is Finding A Poor(er) Woman To Date The Solution For Average Looking Guys?There is an entire subculture of women doing this...gold diggers, sugar babies, etc. Even regular women tend to want to marry someone financially stable and can provide for the family. OP didn't claim the guy was "ugly" just average, while his ability to provide is his most appealing quality (I'm assuming not just a few bucks more). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Is MGTOW the solution then?I'll give it a read. I definitely don't agree with religion having anything to do with the US government and its laws/ideals. Aside from the religious aspect, there is some merit to when is it a fetus, bundle of cells, potential life, etc etc. The idea to protect a helpless life form even if its inside another seems to have merit and shouldn't just be easily discarded as religious and antiquated. They could always pass abortion as a law, as opposed to giving the justices the ability to create la… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 01:33 AM |
| 2 | Is MGTOW the solution then?Easy to say, hard to do, as it violates our core biological needs. The real problem is the supposed top 10% of men taking more of the supply. Men with multiple partners, wives, divorces, body count, etc. Or women, not finding it absolutely important to only have forever partner and choosing better. Women with body count, divorced, children out of wedlock, etc. Fixing either of these supply/demand imbalances while likely very hard, would have actual impact on having more of the population in a re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 01:08 AM |
| 2 | Is MGTOW the solution then?That's an extremely tough proposition...mainly cause dating apps goals and your personal goals do not align. They are only interested in your continued engagement and eventual desperation to invest money into their service. With that said, I met my wife on a dating app. While I believe it really works and is the better version of dating, I also see many of its abuses and short comings | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 12:55 AM |
| 3 | Is MGTOW the solution then?Do you believe its because you are both too unattractive? too poor? too old? From anecdotal evidence, sounds like most of those things are non factors if either of you really wanted to move on. Sounds like a sad life, but there are some cultures that treat marriage as a business proposition...I think the Indian culture and their arranged marriages are like this (aside from the one that become passionate). I empathize with you, not sure what I'd do if I were in that position...hope you can work i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Is MGTOW the solution then?I don't think roe v wade was overturned to produce more worker...we have immigration to do that. Roe v Wade was overturned due to its illegal nature of existence (at least that's what was explained to me). Rather than passing a law that strictly allows abortion, they cited a woman's right to privacy as to the reason why an abortion should be protected. It would be as if the 2nd amendment didn't exist, and ppl bought/sold/collect assault rifles and you couldn't ban them due to their right of priv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 12:44 AM |
| 2 | Is MGTOW the solution then?wow that's super grim =(...i'm sorry to hear. At least your wife isn't forcing the issue!! (don't let her catch on) Based on what society tells me, you wouldn't have much choice whether you could afford it, she would get her share of alimony and child support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 12:30 AM |
| 1 | If you start doing looksmax prepare to be ridiculed (by other men)I don't think your statement is 100% accurate. If you are washing your face, keeping facial hair kept, hair cut, hitting the gym, eating right, dressing well, nice car, good job, etc...I feel like the general public would support this (men included). The haters probably come thru when ppl go beyond the "standard". I would join the hate on men who were taking steroids, plastic surgery, 100s on face and hair care products, 100s on hair cut, designer threads they can't afford, car they can't afford… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 08:42 PM |
| 2 | Should couples have separate bank accounts or share them ?I feel like if its an out of band purchase (not a normal bday/holiday gift) or something that you can't easily afford (you could just as easily buy 10 units of it), then yea "permission" should be asked...better worded it should be discussed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/22 06:42 PM |
| 3 | Has anyone changed their dating habits as a result of SCOTUS reversal ON Roe v. Wade?what are you on about? "pro abortion" doesn't mean they recommend everyone try to get as many abortions as possible. It's to describe people who support someone's right to have an abortion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/22 11:39 PM |
| 1 | The peak attractiveness age for men is between 27-36I was in a similar situation, I didn't find like it mattered much. In the bay, just seemed like 200k++ ppl were very common, likely just the crowds you end up running in. The women won't be falling over themselves trying to get to you. Tho I live that engineer life and pretty humbly at that. if you are willing to take your 200k/yr salary, splash it on a fancy apt, lux car, name brand, while paying for more lux nights out or random gifts, I'm sure you could attract more women at the cost of being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/22 04:51 AM |
| 1 | The peak attractiveness age for men is between 27-36If we're purely talking about how to use your money: - Personal trainer (3+ days/week), maybe even a dietician. - Expensive clothing/gear. Try to keep it tasteful without over doing it. You could get a personal shopper. - Super car > lux car > guy "cool" car = accord > beater. - Travel (even by yourself), you could save a hoe in a poorer part of the world. If not, you'd at least have fun and plenty of content for a social media/dating profile. - Frequent upscale bars and restaurants...if you are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/22 09:32 PM |
| 5 | If you know how worthless dating apps are, why do you continue to use them?I'm a huge proponent for dating apps. I met my wife on a dating app a few years ago (biased). Dating in most forms are competitive for men. I don't believe there are lower quality ppl on OLD. Literally everyone I know (friends/coworkers) have had some experience on them. That's akin to saying only whores go to bars/clubs. I've never paid for OLD, but I've heard their tactics are fairly scammy. Same can be said of ladies nights and guys paying for everything on a night out. There is success rate … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 07:58 PM |
| 2 | How many women expect their partners to do unreasonable amounts of housework?As a high earning partner, i think you should be arguing that your poorer partners pick up the slack either in the house or the bank accounts. Rather than arguing for a 50/50 split of chores. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/22 08:02 PM |
| 2 | How many women expect their partners to do unreasonable amounts of housework?You are 4x more valuable as the market dictates. How hard your work is, how tired you are, etc are all very subjective...what the world will pay you is objective. The lower wage partner should always value the higher wage person and if they need to throw in a few more of their hours into chores, then so be it. how can you demand a partner make 6figures (or more than you) to enter a relationship, only to then consider their higher pay as equal to your hours once you are in a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/22 07:31 PM |
| 1 | How many women expect their partners to do unreasonable amounts of housework?Making your own money and affording life is different. If the higher wage affords you a better house, better things, better vacations, earlier/better retirement, etc. Then i feel 100% making x2 should be valued over housework. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/22 07:11 PM |
| 3 | who should pay for dates?most importantly why?Haha my wife says she'll never get a multi million life insurance policy that pays to me =(....you know incase | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 07:27 PM |
| 1 | who should pay for dates?most importantly why?Dating would be more fair if more women had your view, but I think you are in the minority. From experience and friends, women will let men pay for at least the first date (regardless of interest). I only have 1 friend that will refuse to allow a guy to pay for the first date only if she already knows there won't be a 2nd date and she does't wanna "owe" him anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 07:18 PM |
| 19 | who should pay for dates?most importantly why?die first so that sucker has to pay for your funeral costs! Healthy strategy, hope your relationship does last till one of your eventual deaths! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Why is porn hated by so many women?aww and I was hoping you could just drop some knowledge and tldr on us! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 07:03 PM |
| 0 | Why is porn hated by so many women?I don't understand why non vanilla sex == to pain and degradation. There are plenty of other categories that do not fall into bdsm (also both men and women are targets in this category). this just sounds like you've never watched porn, or you yourself are really into pain and degradation porn which is your choice. I mean you could even really enjoy vanilla sex, doesn't matter if I think you are boring, matters what your partner/future partners feel. I do hear ppl complaining about women who are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 07:01 PM |
| 2 | Why is porn hated by so many women?Haha get your analog porn out of here!! Thanks for the recommendation, but my sex life is great and I'm a visual learner anyway! If i come across a copy i'll give it a look, i'd hate to be missing out on some good technique! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 11:07 PM |
| 2 | Why is porn hated by so many women?This is sucha complicated topic, good luck. If my wife and i are blessed with children, not looking forward to this topic with any gendered child. I grew up without the birds and bees convo, just had to get out there and figure it out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 10:39 PM |
| 2 | Why is porn hated by so many women?I have 100% never read/seen one of these books....also, I have never heard of a single guy buying/reading any of these books. While my own experience does not make a sound argument, the fact that porn is a billion dollar industry and we can safely assume there are more men that have watched porn than read books on sex. Porn has its valid uses and provides benefit to men/women alike, but sure there are plenty of cons that come with it as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 10:36 PM |
| 3 | Why is porn hated by so many women?I can see that angle, just like IG and social media is screwing up men/women's understanding of what is real, what is normal, and what is attractive. Both of which are fun and entertaining to view...I'm just not sure what steps need to be taken to teach ppl that much of it is fantasy/theater or not enjoyed by all. It almost seems more like a person problem rather than a media issue. I grew up hearing don't believe everything you see on TV, maybe that's a lesson a lot of ppl are missing or forget… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 08:39 PM |
| 3 | Why is porn hated by so many women?I never claimed porn invented positions, but that ppl aren't coming up with stuff on their own. I'm sorry when was the last time you saw a copy of the karma sutra floating about? Also, I'm sure there was a culture or time period where the karma sutra was considered smut (porn). While the positions are not originating in modern porn, it is an outlet where it is being "taught" to others. Men aren't picking up the karma sutra, or dumb rags like cosmo and the 101 ways to get your man off (basically … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 08:17 PM |
| 1 | Why is porn hated by so many women?It can be good for bedrooms. If men weren't copying stuff, we'd likely all be doing puritanical, clothes on, lights off, missionary, sans foreplay, vanilla sx. Where foreplay and different positions are very important to women's enjoyment of sex, thank porn. Sure you might happen upon something by accident, but giving you a laundry list of things to try on your partner, some of which might be a hit.. otherwise how will you know what you like and don't like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 07:48 PM |
| 1 | According to a study, the best strategy for struggling male chimpanzees looking to mate was to befriend high ranking alpha males as well as to form large networks with other males. Notice how they didn't need to befriend female chimps. In my opinion, we should give this advice to struggling men.The EZ cop out solution is befriend everyone (of every gender) as they both provide positives to your life. If we are only speaking on the terms of meeting mates, both provide different advantages to that endeavor. If you only had to choose 1 (why?) or choose the most advantageous, I would claim only male friends > only women friends. Based on the people I've seen, women are NOT looking for a man to do girly things with. Be a successful man, so they can drop you off with their gf's husbands with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Red pill dudes are quite literally the easiest people to scam and don’t have much capacity for individual thought100k isn't much in the grand scheme of things. Compared to the numerous ppl who believe in zodiac signs, read dating advice from rag magazines like (cosmo, not sure what the guy version would be), there are plenty of dating services and more traditional dating advices (before Pick up artists and red pill). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 07:26 PM |
| 1 | How will you/did you screen your partner for marriage?Those are for women/girls that are forced into the church by family and are likely not fully brainwashed. They are forcibly denied something and have no experience with it. Some girls will becomes freaks the first chance they get. Even the girls that accept the teachings and want to live that religious life, are generally inexperienced and could have a lot of issues getting along with a partner...the only saving grace is that their religion and community might force/shame them into sticking it o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 09:37 PM |
| 0 | A lot of marriages end in divorce and women are often filing for it - but in many of the cases: is it so wrong?I’m more arguing for a maximum amount. If you can afford it give more, great. Ppl advise getting thousands for child support while not actually spending it on the child. There should be very rare cases where limited or sole custody awarded if both parents want to be involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 01:03 AM |
| 3 | A lot of marriages end in divorce and women are often filing for it - but in many of the cases: is it so wrong?This could have the unforeseen effect of pushing more ppl onto social welfare. If parents agreed together to bring a child into the world, divorce occurs later in life, the wealthier/working parent should be on the hook for child support. I believe child support should be limited to a minimum amount for living, not an arbitrary % of the wealthier's income. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 11:20 PM |
| 6 | So how do I vet women to make sure they have their head on straight before getting with them?Never been in a relationship or had sex? I feel like you shouldn't worry about any of this stuff until you are actually jaded by your real life dating experiences. The girls you are trying to avoid, would likely naturally avoid you as well, unless you are incredibly handsome, tall, rich. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 11:32 PM |
| 14 | Would Short Men (Under 5 ft 5) Have More Dating Opportunities In A Country Where The Average Woman Is Shorter?The size of the women doesn't really matter much. All that matters is the size of your competition. If majority of men are short and you are short as well, women are not going to just abstain from relationships, they will just choose the best of what is available. As it stands, in all countries, the avg woman is shorter than the avg man, so this shouldn't even be a problem. Its only that tall men exist in your city, and they would rather try to date them than date a shorter man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 10:52 PM |
| 1 | On the concept of ”trophy wives” - is it all about status among other men?I’m sure it’s both. No one is picking someone that repulses then just do their buddies will be jealous. In fact the whole idea of trophy wife for status is likely rare, only for the top 5% of society | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 08:51 PM |
| 1 | On the concept of ”trophy wives” - is it all about status among other men?I mean that’s what a trophy is, does nothing, stands there, signals to everyone and yourself you did a thing. If they have jobs, contribute to society, keep a home, they aren’t just a trophy…they are in fact a partner and a proper wife (doesn’t mean they have to look like a dog) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 08:16 PM |
| 1 | On the concept of ”trophy wives” - is it all about status among other men?Well if you properly choose a mate based on a plethora of things, then you picked wisely and looks can be part of that equation. If it’s the only redeeming quality, then you choose a trophy and hopefully you are prepared for that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 08:14 PM |
| 1 | On the concept of ”trophy wives” - is it all about status among other men?I mean that is exactly what a "trophy wife" is. You are excluding tall, blond with fake tits, but that is just taste. Essentially a trophy wife is a parter that does nothing, makes no money, no contributions to society, not a homemaker, not a traditional house wife, etc. If that's the case, I feel like its 1 small part status among other men. But really ppl like pretty things (guys or girls), you feel like you'd be willing to forgo all the other important factors for a partner and take the prett… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 06:12 AM |
| 1 | Mandatory army service for a few years would fix a lot of men's introversion problemsHumans are adaptive, this is a choice. People rather not do things they are uncomfortable with, bad at, etc...but doesn't mean they cannot. While i appreciate tons of ppl are not natural athletes, not even destined for their HS teams. This doesn't stop you from playing at recess, lunch, after school, etc. Most civilized bball courts will let you just call next, or hop on with the next 5. My HS football team had a no cut policy, as long as you could make it thru hell week you suited up. There are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 09:55 PM |
| 1 | What if some people just want to play the field? For funThat lie goes both ways, men tend to lie for higher N counts, while women tend to lie to lower N counts. As for who is lying on surveys, if you count is high enough you start to forget who's on it. there are experiences that start to "not count" even for yourself. For men they just start to round up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 06:32 PM |
| 4 | Mandatory army service for a few years would fix a lot of men's introversion problemsI mean you are forced to go to school 1-12, and if you weren't gonna figure out social interaction by then, what makes you think a few more years of military is gonna do the trick? You could choose not to interact, get bullied, be in the rear of the pack, wash out, etc. You could be socially balanced without being a jock, there were plenty of school clubs, esp ones that were "required" to get into a good college. You can't force an introvert to not be; its up to you how much discomfort you are w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 06:20 PM |
| 2 | How to become the "bad boy"I'm a stem nerd myself, no tats, haven't fought anyone in my adult life, athletic but hate the gym, had a 15$ haircut, no skin care routine other than off shelf cleaner, regular ass clothing (there are no nerds wearing sweater vests...and graphic tees are actually back in maybe ironically. I am/was very social, used to bar club weekly. I did just fine with ladies, hook ups here n there, LTR, etc. if this is all you are looking for, an attitude adjustment, some gym time, wash yourself, and possib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 03:49 AM |
| 5 | This trend of women feeling entitled to a man of much higher SMV will end up with a lot of women getting cheated on and/or replaced.Anecdotal of course, this doesn't work as the pedestal gets shorter every year. It's not healthy already to keep someone on a pedestal. And i feel as the relationship goes it normalizes. When that women was a 7 to your 5, you start feeling you are a 6 and maybe she's a 6 too, your confidence is up, you know how to act around 7s now, your relationship signals to other women that you are a "good catch". My wife also notices that men that seem to be 8, know how to act and are not as desperate to ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Attractive men are really rareMy mistake then, maybe I just assumed from the general tone of the post. Yea, I'm a huge proponent of OLD, i think it'll eventually evolve to a point where it it more tailored for ppl looking for forever rather than just right now. My social circle was actually fairly decent, but still it meant I was only choosing from ppl in the immediate, OLD allowed me access to more of the city. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Is being a black woman really a large deterrent in the dating market?Why would you think its a Black or Asian man trolling? If it really is harder for blk women to date (even interracially), then its because white males also will not date them. As white males make up the majority of the male dating market in the US. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 11:14 PM |
| 3 | Is being a black woman really a large deterrent in the dating market?Yea, if you won't date out, blk women would have a increasingly hard time finding a partner. blk males would roughly make 13% of the males in the US. Factor in not 18, too old, already married/taken, prison, you are looking at a smaller subset of dating posibilities, esp compared to the white/latino ethnicities | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Attractive men are really rareEven if a smaller percentage exists, there are a lot of those men out there in raw numbers. People just have to be real with who they can attain and what their real level is at. Also, to find out 6ft 6pack really isn't that important...esp in long term happiness. 6fig could still be very necessary with the cost of living the way it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 05:21 AM |
| 1 | Attractive men are really rareThis is a very fair statement and likely has something to do with your market. Perhaps Kentucky is more religious, less OLD, older?, more successful marriages/relationships, etc. Maybe you are just below average for your specific local? Get OLD, maybe move to a different town where there are more men than women. if you are in fact truly bellow average, I don't think these pick up ppl, red pills, etc really talk about you. Their complaint is usually avg men can't get avg women because avg women a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 05:12 AM |
| 1 | Couples and MoneyI'm fairly newly married and kinda taking the same approach as well. There's nothing against protecting yourself in time of worse case scenario, but definitely also focus as much time figuring out your partner's pain points and how not to succumb to divorce like the greater percentage of ppl today. i think for many divorce is a coin flip, sadly its the reality of who we are as people today. The barrier to entry is almost non existent, everyone loves love, without really understanding the work … | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/08/22 04:57 AM |
| 1 | Attractive men are really rareSure there are exceptions to every rule and stereo types are hardly rules. Like I said, i've personally experienced it, from generally speaking "average" girls. I think they are speaking from competitive dating markets...where avg women are offered dick everyday. You get hit on, ogled, someone in your group would sleep with you, if you participate in OLD you'd have multitude of matches....if you really wished, you could walk into a crowded bar, be promiscuous and go home with at least and avg ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 02:16 AM |
| 3 | Attractive men are really rareI don't actually know true stats (there were some glaring height stats in bumble)...but the internets makes it seem like it is so. You have to admit you've heard this before (myself i've at least seen the height requirement on OLD). I can't even think of 1 physical demand mainstream men put on women. Anecdotally, my 5'7 friend says he misses connections solely because he's short, but he still finds his fair share of dates. My wife claims that it doesn't matter, yet her exs are also 6ft and also … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Couples and MoneyHaha and to think i thought you were the lamb that might get slaughtered. Whelp don't caught hiding it, he might get the lawyers involved well ahead of time. Also, you opened the account in your name with your SS should be easy enough to trace. Also, i'm not sure how fool proof that statement of if the money is gone its gone...If you are moving a few 100k or 1m, its gonna leave a huge paper trail, unless I'm stupid and you have a simple, if so pls educate me cause i'm basically in your boat as w… | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/08/22 12:13 AM |
| 1 | Couples and Money150/mo discretionary spending seems reasonable. It's hard to talk raw numbers since everyone is living different financial realities. Just make sure the emergency and retirement funds are funded as we as possible before getting too crazy with discretionary spending at any level. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/22 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Couples and MoneyI mean being a lawyer and working for a law school are 2 different things. You can easily google communal property for your state. If he didn't clearly own or pay for those things with money attained prior to marriage you are entitled to 1/2. Even if he owned the car before you married, and then made payments with communal money, paid fees, maintenance, a lawyer could easily argue for some value of it. I'm almost certain that having that savings account only in your name is not gonna allow you t… | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/22 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Couples and MoneyHopefully, you've already collected IRA money, full 401k, 503b if necesary, etc. If your discretionary fund is only 10% of your total take and distributed evenly, then I figure you are well off or at least safe. If you got everything planned out for your future, then dumping money into some hobbies isn't that bad, esp if it keeps the person motivated to keep going to work. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/22 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Couples and MoneyYea, so that doesn't do anything unless your specific jurisdiction works that way. if the house was only in his name, as well as ever account...you could just sue him for 1/2 of everything. If the judge sees that your husband did this maliciously, they could get very punitive with damages. The only issue with not having ea others names on stuff, is that outside of court it'll be hard to get information on the accounts or even know of their existence. If you go into a messy divorce, the lawyers w… | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/22 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Couples and MoneyI am married, we have 1 joint account that every pay check goes into. We have pre marriage savings/stock portfolios as well that are kept mostly separate. Currently all of our life is lived out of that joint account, but I am considering making scheduled payout from the joint to personal accounts or rather personal trading accounts for "fun". I prefer this since i'm generally the higher earner and the more frugal person (in all my relationships). Where having split accounts doesn't protect me … | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/22 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Couples and MoneyYou don't have to worry extra about divorce...you were boned either way without a prenup. Whether the accounts are in her name or control, she's still entitled to 1/2 if its considered comunal property (earned while married). | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/22 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Couples and MoneyHow does that keep anything safer? safer from what? | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/22 11:04 PM |
| 9 | Attractive men are really rareIf you go by the internet trope of 666, then yes. % of being 6ft tall are already below 20%. % of men in the US making 6figures is low as well. Lastly 6pack, requires you to not only be in the gym regularly, but have some questionable eating habits at times to have a 24/7 6pack. if you compare to girls, the requirements are much lower and more easily cheated. Rarely a height requirement, income requirement, etc. Many body types are celebrated/fetishized. Makeup, lighting, angles really distort m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 08:29 PM |
| 11 | The average man has poor dating prospects in comparison to the average woman, what is something men can do to improve their SMVThere are still risks. I've heard plenty of situations where the women makes it to the states, realizes she got a weak partner, runs into a better partner, runs into better partner from her community (if there is a local community in your hometown) she then divorces the man and moves on. Some of the importing men will make sure she can't drive, can't speak the language, limit her interactions, limit her friends, etc...A lot of scum tactics to hold on to their "investment" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 05:45 AM |
| 1 | Men have the power to enact change in the dating market. But it’ll never happen.Men have been paying for sex since the dawn of man. They don't call prostitution the oldest profession in the world for nothing. Paying for nudes falls along the same line, how long was Playboy/Hustler/etc huge publications for? There was structure placed by gov and religion when they ended polyamorous relationships. That was likely a good decision for the well being of men and society at large, but you could say that it wasn't "natural". Honestly, men quitting simping isn't gonna suddenly lower… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 10:57 AM |
| 1 | Men dont have much to offer in datingSeems fair, if women have stepped up their game in earning potential, then it only stands that men must step up into the complete package in hopes to be a real partner. Even with that said, I think the 70c to a dollar quote still means something. While it doesn't mean that women are being unfairly paid for their work in the same positions, but rather they still regularly choose professions that pay less....so there is still a chance you can make more money than your potential partners. Reality… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 09:15 AM |
| 1 | Men dont have much to offer in datingI mean if you are talking about onlyfans sex workers...those are basically new age porn stars. When you say sex worker, I'm thinking the average street worker, stripper, rub/tug joint, etc. They might make more than a doctor on a per hour basis, but that's not scalable into a 40hr/week, 401k, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 09:04 AM |
| 1 | Men dont have much to offer in datingdamn, what country do you live in?! That's some backwards shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 09:01 AM |
| 1 | Do men want career focused women?Damn what a shit story, I'm sorry for your experience. You are correct, investments/wealth you attained prior to the marriage, inheritance, and gifts are not directly subject to divorce proceedings. Persons could accidentally transmute separate property into communal, but nothing a prenup would actually help. Her folks were uneducated on the matter and ended up hurting the relationship for no reason. Their heart was in the right place, but the messed up how they went about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 12:56 AM |
| 5 | Do men want career focused women?No, my wife is a high earner herself. And I picked a respectable woman, not a “baddie”, not a gold digger, no boss babe vibes, queens, etc Everyone can cheat, but we’re seemingly still in love and still working at it. Also, if you have a trophy wife are you automatically beta buxx? Or do you have to both pay and be cheated on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 06:15 PM |
| 6 | Do men want career focused women?I’m a software developer as well, the majority of my team are married or in committed relationships…we’re out here! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 12:14 PM |
| 3 | Do men want career focused women?Agreed, I've heard this is the case in China and Japan as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 11:43 AM |
| 16 | Do men want career focused women?My wife makes 6 figures, and I still paid for all the dates...based on her old world views of how courtship should be. Perhaps I could see how men would feel like bring less to the table since traditionally our only worth was that we were providers. I think this old world ideal is gonna eventually go away as more and more women are becoming capable earners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 11:20 AM |
| 15 | Do men want career focused women?Most modern/western women are already not that "agreeable". Between the women that claim housewife is the most important job to the "boss babes" that make no money in failing IG influencer "careers", MLM shenanigans, or run of the mill admin positions... The attitude is gonna come anyway, might as well have someone help bring financial stability to your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 11:17 AM |
| 45 | Do men want career focused women?I'm very interested in having a partner that is financially literate and has a career that is stable and makes decent coin (my wife). My thoughts are the world is getting increasingly more and more costly to live in and sudden unemployment could potentially wipe out an entire family. Additionally, its nice to introduce your wife with a respectable career. I do not think I would be against dating a women who is more well off than I am...as I am no earning slouch myself...though I have never dated… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 11:13 AM |
| 1 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDI haven't used bumble for quite some time now, but they did allow ppl to list their body type (which is slightly more accurate then weight, also highly subjective). I'm assuming there were filters for that as well. body count would be wholey inaccurate anyway. Everyone lies. I always tell girls a lower number to not seem as whorish (tho that is not the male norm). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 10:09 AM |
| 1 | Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why?Iono about ruining a family...sure in those times you weren't likely to be able to marry her off again, but your daughter would be back in your household to be another set of hands working. Also, you got to keep the dowery. Her child could be another male worker or another woman to dowery off? I really have no idea how it all worked then, that's just what I would logically perceive. This is probably doesn't work once ppl were past the farmer/home business stages. if you got back a single mother … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/22 06:45 PM |
| 3 | Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why?I don't know if they cared to "trust" them to do anything. A woman from more than 100 years ago was treated like livestock. You traded them to get a better dowry. What was good for her was never considered...other than if they could get max dowry, then at least the man's family proved it could provide at least that much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 05:39 PM |
| 2 | Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why?Maybe so, but if I ever have a daughter i'll attempt to pass on the lesson. I guess in fairness we should teach both sides to be better. Men are still told to crush everything you can cause biology. If we teach our sons to be better, expect better for themselves. Maybe they won't give the "thots" etc the time of day...if men only compete for women at their level, women will clearly have to readjust their expectations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 05:33 PM |
| 4 | Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why?Yea, cause her gal pals married and started families instead of trying to live/retire alone with fur babies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 07:16 AM |
| 2 | Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why?Money can buy a lot of aesthetic! Maybe the age or type of women you are looking for aren’t matching up. I’m just some dude, found a reasonable amount of success dating, no IRL ig types tho | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 07:15 AM |
| 1 | Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why?They lie. Or if they do go car route, no one wants to be with a woman that stubborn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 07:12 AM |
| 3 | Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why?I’m sorry, sounds like you are doing all you can. I feel the 6 figure salary isn’t the silver bullet it used to be especially in CA. Keep grinding, it works? I’ve made it, but YMMV | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 07:10 AM |
| 2 | Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why?The learning curve just might be real steep. I figure the more women that play for their chads, get used or never picked will start having to date busters or take up cats. You can only hope for so long | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 07:07 AM |
| 3 | Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why?What is an MFP? I see tons of girls with close to IG bodies, maybe some bolt on enhancements as well. There are girls for sure into their aesthetics at least in CA. You are telling me you can’t get a date in your circle? Work? OLD? Are you 5’2 or just hunting for that top tier? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 07:04 AM |
| 3 | Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why?I see you are speaking from a personal space. I get the feeling, was 230 at one time and lost 50lbs eating 1200cal, exercise 4-5x, I definitely applaud the effort and understand how hard it is/was. You are not doing what the avg guy is doing. The avg guy is not trying to lose 50lbs, trying to eat a massive deficit. Also, once you get to a good weight, the real struggle is keeping it off, i've since massively slipped due to covid while my wife has better kept her figure during covid. I worked inf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 10:32 PM |
| 6 | Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why?I'll agree there are fewer female gym rats. I do see plenty of women on yoga, stair masters, cardio equip, etc as they are mistakenly afraid of lifting thinking they'll bulk up with their non existent testosterone. Most odd diet fads have women doing a variety of crash diets or random trash products. While caloric intake is lower, there are far less men eating ice chips and super low calorie diets. I would argue the "avg" man and the "avg" woman will spend similar amounts of time in the gym. Whi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 09:12 PM |
| 8 | Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why?God given gifts aside, people would claim there is equal work being put in. Women kill themselves in diets/gym to have that IRL instagram bodies. I know women who will chew ice chips at lunch or eat a salad only. They spend hours with make up to lie to us, plastic surgery, heels, fashion, etc. There are more women graduating college these days, earning more money. Sure they are not expected to approach you, but they have their own amount of "work". What you should really be thinking about is the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 07:37 PM |
| 15 | Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why?The pendulum is just swinging, I believe it'll eventually land on what you perceive as fair eventually. Dating/marriage was largely unfair for women in the past as their choices were regularly made by their fathers or by some socioeconomic pressure. I mean even in the past there are more cultures where it was normal to have multiple wives rather than multiple husbands. Given women's equality, economic means, and sexual freedom, they are now most definitely the market makers and in the driver's s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Dating spaces gaslight the absolutely living shit out of menI mean you could also see it as a person that went entirely TOO fast and is now overcompensating to see if they get a better outcome. Sure anyone with a strict time limit is likely playing games, either with you or herself. Standard delaying gratification/impulse techniques...she can't radar for good men, so arbitrarily sets a time limit in hopes to weed out candidates or at least control herself. As for the reality of dating...what can you do? if a girl has these limits (even if she wouldn't if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/22 07:39 AM |
| 1 | Are you concerned with the rate of failed marriages? What do you think could help decrease divorce rates?Concerned not really, low birth rates (of high quality stock) are a more serious societal problem, I don't see partner musical chairs really effecting our society as a whole. Decreasing divorce rates; As a society we could more judgmental of divorces. Treat them as untrustworthy, social pariahs (like many religions), etc. This is not particularly good for ppls health, but it would help influence people from marrying too quickly and/or divorcing too quickly. My only personal advice would be: live… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/22 07:26 AM |
| 1 | Dating spaces gaslight the absolutely living shit out of menYou can't particularly "claim diff rules for diff men", unless she turns around in her next relationship and puts out immediately. She could have out grown her hoe activities...as portrayed by her very stringent 1mo 3mo rules. She might be trying to find jesus by overcompensating for her past...(only time will tell) All that person can do is either believe her and hope for the best, or bounce...at least you accidentally found out something you didn't like pretty early on. Personally, if I were g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/22 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Most girls are conditioned to think that what's most important about them is how they look.Sorry, you are correct. Being in my current corporate culture, it’s pretty hard to fire anyone without just cause. They are being over sensitive, and if you don’t provide cause, they feel a wrongful termination suit coming. They can make up some claim based on religion, sex, gender, ethnicity, age. But I still stand by that this person is delusional thinking they are losing jobs because they are too pretty. I believe there are studies showing attractive people have better outcomes in job intervi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 03:08 PM |
| 3 | Most girls are conditioned to think that what's most important about them is how they look.Women tear women down. As of today, western men stick together and deal with what they are given. Meaning, men tend to not get plastic surgery or wear makeup....where as women are the normal target for makup and plastic surgery. If women cared about women and banded togetoher to denounce makeup and surgery (like men have for the time being), then beauty standards will return to normalcy. if you look at korean culture, they are so toxic both men and women regularly get plastic surgery and wear ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 06:52 AM |
| 1 | Most girls are conditioned to think that what's most important about them is how they look.naps are great!! but if its better than sex, there's something wrong with 1 or both individuals in that coupling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 06:49 AM |
| 2 | Most girls are conditioned to think that what's most important about them is how they look.You have never been fired for being pretty...if you live in USA, they tend to need to show some cause for firing you, if there is no cause and you are fired for being "pretty" you should go file law suites and never work again. The real real, is they are fired for incompetence, being late, personal chatter, etc...any litany of poor job performance. Issue is pretty ppl have been "loved" the opposite sex, their own gender, their parents, etc they mistakenly think its not their faul. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 06:48 AM |
| 1 | The argument of "just lower your standards" to undesirable men is misguided since they have no option that is being filtered out by their standardsIf you hop on OLD and do not swipe on "good looking women" and only what you deem as "bad looking", i'm sure you'll get more matches. Otherwise you are super unfortunate looking and i'm Sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 06:38 AM |
| 1 | The argument of "just lower your standards" to undesirable men is misguided since they have no option that is being filtered out by their standardsI believe even lower value men have options. its just beyond their standards. meth addict, 1 eye, no teeth, missing limbs, obese, no job, horrible attitude, etc...There is someone so sad and lonely they might take a crack at you...but also depends on the local. You are a sad, broke guy, 20s, not great looking, trying to date in CA...you are gonna have a bad time. You might want to move to a local where there are more women than men, and the women tend to be less attractive and alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 06:36 AM |
| 2 | What even is the "friendzone"?I would tend to relate crushes to secret desires or ones from afar. In the situation 2 ppl know each other, are already on friendly terms...then 1 person attempts to elevate the relationship to the next level, and the other person just doesn't have the same desire. Sent to the friend zone....seems really easy; still an unrequited love, but a friend zone non the less. A friend zone doesn't necessarily need to be toxic. The person that got relegated to friends only, shouldn't take it personally ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 09:14 PM |
| 6 | What even is the "friendzone"?How does this attempt to justify any entitlement? The friend zone exists and it could be simply anyone interested in you romantically and you denied their advances and kept them in your life as friends. If they remain your friend but wold still jump at the chance of being romantically involved, they are friendzoned. Could be male, female, gay/les, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 08:58 PM |
| 2 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDI really don't know, likely its US statistics? I looked up some stats (THEY CLAIM) on Sweden, avg male height is 6ft, while female height is 5'7 (the same collection claims that US male height is 5'10 while female height is 5'4). By their claims its even worse for you guys as 3inches is all that separates your 2 genders (unless there isn't the same desire for men to be much taller than women). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 08:07 AM |
| 3 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDLike the other poster said, empathy...but also selfish reasons. I may have a son one day, and would feel really uneasy for him if he were on the shorter side. Additionally, feels like the health of young men are suffering around the world. In the US, we deal with incel mass shootings, depression, lower birth rates, high divorce, employment issues, economy, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 07:54 AM |
| 2 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDwould that really matter? Society claims that men inflate body count numbers while women lower their numbers. Additionally, women are currently in the advantaged position. I'm under the impression that men feel that its too hard to OLD, and women are too picky...no thirsty men are gonna filter women out based on their body count (at least not today). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 07:48 AM |
| 2 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDYo, total mistype. Men not me, sorry | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 07:15 AM |
| 1 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDAll over CA. Bay, LA, San Diego…so I just figured it was all/most metropolitan areas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 01:55 AM |
| 7 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDIf your goal as a woman is mate for life, someone posted a study that found short men stay married longer (tho they get married later, maybe cause their pool doesn't open up until the late 30s). If you believe in the "wall", then you should be even more inclined to mold your attraction to the majority of men that will more likely be life long partners and available to you for more than a 1 night stand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 01:37 AM |
| 2 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDI 100% they are horrible for your back and your feet...but these huge shoe companies keep churning them out...someone is buying them. Even chucks, the king of flat ass shoes with no support have models with chunkier heels for women. I'm not denying your reality, but in my bubble, I see them at the mall, bar, lounges, clubs, coffeeshops, work, formal events, nicer restaurants, etc. Sure not for running to the grocery or other errands...but very much a reality. Maybe I live in locations where wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 01:25 AM |
| 2 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDMy wife's closet is full of shoes ranging from flats to 3in+ heels. I go out plenty and see them all the time. Also, accompanying my wife or past gf's to the shoe section they are full of 3+ inch heels....do you go out? It could be my sense of avg is different, being from an urban city in the west coast (we drive a lot, so women don't have to walk so much and it is more reasonable to wear higher heels for more things?) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 01:10 AM |
| 5 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDI guess so. If its seen as rude and low class, i'm not trying to change societal norms, just trying to get a date back then. If you can't guess the weight/body size by pictures then looks like you gotta waste some time on an in person date. I didn't find this to be that much of a problem at the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 01:07 AM |
| 6 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDWhile she doesn't need to tell her her weight and its even societally rude to ask such a thing...asking a man's height is seemingly common place (I have in every instance of OLD pre-meeting) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 12:56 AM |
| 8 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDSounds like the source is before the paywall! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDhence "slightly" cause being built like a college rb/fb is a rarity in itself. Bumble might have it right with body type (which is subjective to a degree) but would at least solve for the inaccuracies of weight/bmi/etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 12:47 AM |
| 3 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDA the very least I would think income is reasonable. At least it is a trait you have some ability to change. Also, being tall does nothing much other than aesthetics and possibly better genetics for future generations. Income could at least somewhat signify financial acuity, ability to provide, "smarts", and represents the new caveman version of ability to hunt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 12:45 AM |
| 0 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDBut if you did care about height...you could still self filter without paying for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 11:40 PM |
| 1 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDMore Organic, yes...change? It will most definitely. Phone calls were common place and thought of as the only way to communicate. Now mostly ppl prefer to txt, I only talk on the phone to my parents and wife when something absolutely needs my attention now. What tells you that OLD won't eventually take over everything? There's all this talk of social anxiety...I could never hit on women without a bit of liquid courage. So I kept my attempts generally in that realm or thru mutual friends. Every o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 11:39 PM |
| 1 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDIf their need/desire for companionship/procreation is strong enough, their parameters will likely change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDPeople are business...you can tell that to the plethora of dating apps...none of them are actually invested in you finding a forever match...other than the positive PR they would get. if you look at their algos, its not how can we get sally to meet harry and live happily ever after. Its how can we keep the lot of them engaged as long as possible with however many bells/dings/hearts/like we can generate...throw a few pay walls in there and keep our investors happy and our pockets lined. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 10:45 PM |
| 13 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDI'm sorry man, I know there's not much I can say to change anything, but 2% of women is still potentially a lot of women. And as it stands the OLD market is hyper fast and inflated. IRL experience would likely be better since women aren't bombarded with dick offers. good luck out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDYea i agree...but perhaps that's evidence that Tinder itself is dying out? It was always thought of as a hook up app, and seeing these results seems more than likely. Hopefully the other offshoots bumble, coffee, hinge, etc have better stats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDsadly it really doesn't hahaha...almost makes it worse. I got close tho, only needed a little boost...but really i would want to do it in a game on someone's head...that's the only time it really counts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 10:32 PM |
| 2 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDyou could be that unicorn...or perhaps you and your friend must change your preference out of necessity? I do hear that taller women tend to be more self conscious and dating for them is as challenging as dating for short men. i think its great that you see beyond seemingly unnecessary physical traits to really get to know someone, more of us should be like you. i still think you are the oddity; it is a common societal norm that the man should at least be as tall/taller than a women (at least an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 10:29 PM |
| 2 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDThis would have to be an industry wide requirement...I believe these changes should be enforced on both sexes to ensure better matching potential. Part of the abuse in OLD is also men's faults. A man seen as a top 5% can swipe on any range if a one night stand is all he desires, thusly inflating market value of women who may not truly be top 5% causing them to deny matches that will more likley lead to marriage. You would also be bad at business...this is liken to opening a nightclub and making … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 10:16 PM |
| 3 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDI could also have a fat daughter...and I would be even more concerned for her health...but I can only serve health foods at home and plan more healthy family outings....can't very well do anything about the genetic lottery for my son. I like this sub because it has better ability to generate 2 sides of the discussion. If i really just wanted a circle jerk, I'd post in the pro mens side, and if i wanted pure shit stirring i'd post on the pro women side? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 10:07 PM |
| 2 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDIt was a joke. I wish I was 6'4! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDhave you dated shorter men than you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 10:01 PM |
| 3 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDYour graph asks what age they found them the most attractive, not what ages they filtered in for viable partners. https://i.redd.it/7508c57f86d91.jpg I can't imagine 20-22 being the only age groups being swiped on in this graph. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDWell, what you are doing is wildly inefficient. There are what 100k - millions of men in your region...you have to time to painstakingly review each profile to get a match?! If not height, you must want to filter out some aspects. until you can produce some statistic that shows a counter to this, this is the best evidence we can use for this discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDHopefully some app would be able to fix this disparity. Its a tough problem to solve since dating apps likely profit from itself not working too well...as keeping engagement up and return users are likely their main goals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDYou don't even have to be a "height queen". Avg woman is 5'4 and avg women buy heels 3in+. Can we agree a large majority of women would want to date a taller man (there are many studies on this). So already minimal viable for these avg women is 5'8....is the extra 4in really that hard to believe...esp in OLD where women have a huge market advantage as it stands? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 09:40 PM |
| 8 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDIt is not the statistical norm, nor is that stopping women on OLD. There is the stat that on tinder women pass on 95% of the men. If dating were a 1:1 then that stat isn't possible...unless all the women are dating on the 5% (which is a claim made here as well). I did see a stat from a huffpost article, short men get married much later in life (possibly due to poor dating choices up front and/or picking up the "leftover" women). Can agree that women on avg want a man taller than them? And we can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 09:34 PM |
| 3 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDHow can you so brazenly claim most don't or wouldn't? if you were given a plethora of filters to use for free to help you get to what you wanted...you wouldn't use it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 09:25 PM |
| 2 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDYes not rigorous study, but real number on a subset. While most women do not set the filter, you can not infer that it doesn't matter or they wouldn't if it were a free option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 09:19 PM |
| 3 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDDo you have a link to that...I find that really hard to believe outside of a sugar baby dating site or something similar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 09:14 PM |
| 4 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDYea, we're not discussing how this affects me in particular as we are happily married. Its just general discussion about the state of affairs. Also, i'm 6ft tall so by these standards i'm at least "viable". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 09:06 PM |
| 2 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDLikely there is still stigma, I agree. I seriously think it'll get there, once the "bad" actors are the minimum of the population. Really the only difference with OLD and IRL dating is the ability to get catfished...otherwise the ppl you potentially meet in IRL can be the same "trash" you meet in OLD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDIt is what is filtered IN. 5'11-6'7, 6'0-nomax would have them show on both plots. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 08:55 PM |
| 12 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDI think your counter is flawed. Most women do not need to filter since there is an abundance of choice. My personal experience going thru OLD, i did notice a lot of profile stating that 5'11-6 was a must. If 6% of men were filtering out on weight, and I had no idea what the other 94% were doing, then yes...you could and I would have to listen cause i have no counter point. Much of how tv ratings, statistics, census data is a "representative" sample size...inherently more flawed than tally every … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDSo you have entirely different reasons for wanting to strangle someone... Great tho, some ppl on the thread need a positive win. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 08:24 PM |
| 3 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDWeight is really misleading, maybe BMI would be slightly more accurate? I haven't used any OLD in sometime, but I remember bumble having a descriptor for build type (avg, thin, athletic, fat?)...so there likely is a filter for this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 08:22 PM |
| 0 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDI can see bullying esp at a younger age, but less so in adulthood. As for money, I think I'd seen that statistic for CEOs; but no one care if their engineers, doctors, etc are tall. I personally don't know how life is for short ppl outside of dating, but I could see your point. Hell, we've made thicc women a thing, maybe it could be short men next. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 08:20 PM |
| 3 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDCreep. At least you aren't 6'8+. I really believe if you are that tall without an nba/nfl contract your life is likely worse. Clothes don't fit, bed doesn't fit, hell whole house doesn't fit, car, plane seats, etc. Everything cost you more, including your general health. Tho I wish I was 6'4, maybe I could feel how it feels to dunk on a standard rim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 08:14 PM |
| 3 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDI've read somewhere that this used to be a free option, I wish I could find those statistics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 08:10 PM |
| 10 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDOMG dating combine that would really wreck dating in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 08:08 PM |
| 3 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDYou are not providing a statistic where women prove otherwise...you are only stating that few ppl pay for OLD services. As I do not have a counter statistic to this, this is all I can work off of (but you are correct there could be confirmation bias...I just have nothing else to go on). I could potentially have a son, and he could be potentially short...so this post isn't to ruin anyones day, its a legit concern of mine. Also, could lead to further issues in a society I live in. With a society o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 08:03 PM |
| 2 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDAt least in dating, women set the market standards. I have never not hired or befriended a man purely on their height alone. Purely assumption; but if you asked women why they didn't date short men, the answers would likely be varied, but few would be they are angry bad ppl. I'm assuming shorter men (esp shorter than the subject) don't even appear on their radar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 07:57 PM |
| 14 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDDo you have some sorta of published statistic that says otherwise? How is this badly flawed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 07:50 PM |
| 11 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDI'm sorry, really hope the naysayers on thread are correct and you'll have some form of success out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 07:42 PM |
| 19 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDThere is a popular tinder statistic where it shows that women pass on 95% of men on the app. If you. believe that as true, then matching with these height requirements seems like much more of a wider reality. Link | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 07:41 PM |
| 5 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDIRL does likely work better since you can just rock tims or lifts! and you are likely right, when you are face to face 5'9 v 5'11 is not much of a difference when you are 5'2. But only meeting through random interactions, friends, organizations, etc is really limiting your possible dating pool. My wife and I do not run in the same circles and without OLD we are never likely to meet (also, she's never given/taken a number of a stranger). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 07:37 PM |
| 6 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDThe APP is getting closer to what real life is. Even my co-workers in the younger generation use the app for dating and have found many multi month, multi year partners through it. I used to think the same way about bars and clubs, just hook up culture, but then you notice everyone goes to the bars and clubs and its the easiest most natural way of meeting someone. I think OLD will eventually get there once ppl take it more seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 07:29 PM |
| 8 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDInteresting. I'm of the mind that we should let the market decide, but you have a point. I believe i've read somewhere that the forcing of 1man and 1woman was done thru government and religion specifically to protect society. It was some what more normal for men to go without a mate for life due to being seen as a poor genetic/socio/etc. Likely leading to more depression. You see this in incel communities and movements around the world (esp in Asia). As this does not seem like something religion… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 07:15 PM |
| 5 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDI mean its linked cause its a tangible statistic. I don't know if its really all that misleading. I'm a gamer and the freemium world works this way. Subset of your populace are paying individuals and the ppl that pay the most determine where the market leads. Men in these discussions seem to have this general feeling about women, if you could produce a statistic that says otherwise I'd be interested (other than yourself or your gfs that love 5'4 men) If there were 2 apps; app with only short men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 07:07 PM |
| 4 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDIts not argue per se, its more of a discussion. I bring her some of these sub cultures from the internets and she doesn't have the same empathy I do with the potential male struggles. Also, we met on OLD, so her insight from the other perspective seems worthwhile as opposed to the circle jerk that occurs in 1 sided communities. You've never had a discussion with your partner about things that don't directly affect you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 06:57 PM |
| 20 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDNo we are not. Its not argue per se, its more of a discussion. I bring her some of these sub cultures from the internets and she doesn't have the same empathy I do with the potential male struggles. Also, we met on OLD, so her insight from the other perspective seems worthwhile as opposed to the circle jerk that occurs in 1 sided communities. You've never had a discussion with your partner about things that don't directly affect you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 06:56 PM |
| 5 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDshiiit, he can't reach the bar anyway (i joke i joke....i feel really bad for the under 5'8 men. If I'm blessed with a child and they so happen to be a short male, I'd be very worried) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 06:30 PM |
| 16 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDI mean i stated that in the post...so I am honest? Also, you'd consider the person actually paying for the service as the most serious users and could represent the whole of the population (mind you not everyone). Like they say, vote with your dollars. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 06:27 PM |
| 16 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDDon't be depressed! Even having access to 5% of the women is still a lot of warm bodies? Also, I have friends in the 5'7 range; they have experience women killing convos after hearing this, but they still get reasonable dates and prospects. The number of times they make it to a in person date isn't grossly lower than mine were. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 06:22 PM |
| 2 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDI have not seen stats; but I would tend to agree with you. Just like club cover charges women aren't paying. I believe OLD makes most of their money on men, but for the one that do use it, could you extrapolate their data across the entirety as a general public desire? I believe this used to be a free feature. Also, with women getting huge number of matches they could use this to filter men out quicker so they have less matches to manage. Having too many matches seems like a good problem to have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 06:17 PM |
| 9 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDI've never seen the filter myself, I'm assuming it allows you to pick both a max and minimum and most users lazily just pick the minimum. Considering the number of 7ft in America, they likely aren't running into a bunch of giants forcing them to filter out ahead of time. Some claim the avg height of women is 5'4. i could really see issues for men south of 5'8 considering women do like to wear heels and would likely want to still be same or shorter than their partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 06:11 PM |
| 3 | Is it reasonable for a man with an average physique to want a thin/non-fat female partner?All you want is a generic thin woman? That sounds easy enough for any male of most body types. Perhaps its more due to your locale. if you are from some small 1 horse town, where everyone eats standard American food and there's really nothing to do outside, then I could believe majority of women are on the heavy set side. Sadly, maybe move to a area where body image is more important? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 08:01 PM |
| 12 | Honestlt, I think men have it better than women in the world of dating.I personally think men have it easier in the later stages (if they focused on their career) of life while women have it MUCH easier in the beginning stages. The rub is we mostly have the desire/hope to be successfully paired off before we get into the stages that men have the advantage. if men get into their advantaged years, likely mid 30s and later...the available women are seen to have lower value by that time. Maybe already divorced, children, "run thru", etc. (I know this isn't always true,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 12:21 AM |
| 2 | Giving woman your own age a chance why?If she is a professional in her 30s as well, would we assume they are also "semi successful"? If that is the case, then you can fully gauge the financial reward to this pairing. By 30 you have a good idea of their current earnings and earning potential. You could ask about the debts they carry and their handling of basic finances. They would more likely have lived independently and not on daddy's dime. I really see no downsides. Marrying a younger person would only introduce many financial downs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 12:12 AM |
| 2 | Men need women.Humans do love conditionally, I think that's what love actually is. You are making a choice to do so, where as your dog isn't wired that way. If you gave me your dog, I'm sure they would be loyal to me in a couple years as well. Then in said burning building scenario, they might run to me instead of you, who knows. I love dogs, I think they're the best, but don't get it twisted like they really have all that much choice to "love" you. Just like pets who end up eating their owners....tho that mig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/22 07:33 PM |
| -2 | Men need women.The company of a dog is just an easy mode (fake) relationship. They are pack animals and you are the defacto pack leader. They don't actually "love" us and it isn't a replacement for actual human interaction. Basically, Stockholm syndrome. With that said, I too love dogs and how they seem to "love" us as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/22 05:56 PM |
| 3 | In the majority of instances of “Ghosting” the person who gets ghosted did nothing wrong the other party just got a better prospect/offer.Its not simply projection. While I've done it as well to girls, I know more than a handful of girls that have done the same. It seems/feels wrong, but its exactly how a dating market works. You only have so much time, dating isn't an actual relationship so the majority of ppl are feeling out multiple prospects. People will generally gravitate to the possible better option. The other options get ghosted, if you are a better person you explicitly tell them its not gonna work out, but I'm sure more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/22 06:00 PM |
| 0 | In the majority of instances of “Ghosting” the person who gets ghosted did nothing wrong the other party just got a better prospect/offer.You played the game and you lost. All you can do is try again and maybe not fall so easily to potentially better prospects...or try to date both till you get a better idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/22 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Male entitlement is the sole reason for their widespread lonelinessI can't agree with you. I'm making the assumption that these men you are talking about are not beating off the women (1-5) while being lonely pining for the 8+. I've never heard the avg man complaining that they are swimming in below avg p***y, but the struggle is real trying to get that dime piece. I would like to think their struggle is real, the dating market is not in their favor, etc. with that said tho, as unfair as it might be, that is the game and rules we have in place. They should get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/22 10:50 PM |
| 2 | You get who you can get. Not who you deserve or are entitled to. Who you can get IS your "smv"I agree with you. This is all well and good until the women starts a "men ain't shit" rant, or some woe it me vomit post that all men are boys and trash. If she knows the game, gets the transactions she wants and doesn't care to start a relationship, more power to her!! Likely it'll be other women that actually hate her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/22 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Social awkwardness and lack of fitness are the reason for lack of interest women have in men todayYour experience definitely counts. I feel for you, you are not crazy, being 5'3 really does affect you dating ability. You definitely have to work much harder to attract women than similar situated men at 5'8. OP's post still has merit, but you have a slightly different problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 08:51 PM |
| 2 | Question for coupled people: Where did you meet your partner?My 20s I met girls in bars/clubs or through friends of friends. I've gone on dates from online dating. The woman I've married I met through online dating, we met in our 30s. I am by no means a "Chad". Online dating DOES work, but I agree with you that many of the people are abusing its design. Don't be discouraged, you will just have to continue to grind on it (swich apps as new ones become more popular). I've heard the algos penalize you if you are swiping too indiscriminately. Just avoid the c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 11:22 PM |
| 1 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.No, I'm the man that makes more money and does the "harsher" work, while my girl does the more constant cooking, laundry, etc. I've had gf's in the past expect me to do 50% of all the housework, since she worked as well, but I found that wasn't "fair" since they were discrediting how much utility my work gained the family (in dollars) also how dirty the work I did do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 05:15 PM |
| 0 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.I agree with you, the theoretically dying for you argument is weak and baseless. I am personally in this situation myself in these relationships. While I slack on the day to day work, I do find myself with the brunt of the "nastier" (much less often) work. Clogged sink, clogged shower, cleaning the kitchen hood, cleaning the stove, mopping the floors, washing the cars, changing oil, brakes, fixing random stuff, as well as making way more money. Would you find this as valid arguments for division… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 06:12 AM |
| 0 | Professional couples are on the rise, but it’s not increasing income inequalityIf you have ghetto hood rat taste, but belong to a higher socioeconomic class, you are more than welcome to date down. Much like every athlete or anyone "making it" would still be attracted to the examples of ppl who they grew up around or watched in media. As I see it, there are a few reasons why CS nerds don't pull as much as their eccon would suggest (I am a cs nerd). Most people do not know that on avg cs engineers make more than some doctors, lawyers, bankers, business owners. So stating yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/21 10:11 PM |
| 5 | You are not getting sex because people don't want to have sex with you, the rest is just noiseSure men will likely imply that if you won't date them, you may be personally attacking some facet of their being. Sometimes women would be so callous as to directly tell them they are too short, too poor, too unsightly, too out of shape, etc. I'm of the mindset it is what it is, and you just need to play the game better, but it might be easier for me to say since I get mine and by objective standards i'm supposed to be desirable. I do empathize with the incels and the below avg man...life is re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/21 07:22 PM |
| – | You are not getting sex because people don't want to have sex with you, the rest is just noiseThis is a clown argument. How can you compare murder, which are committed by a very small % of men, to how the majority of civilized men and women do actually act towards one another? Are you arguing that you should get a pass to do whatever you'd like to men, as long as it falls short of murder? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/21 06:42 PM |
| – | You are not getting sex because people don't want to have sex with you, the rest is just noisePerhaps, it's an "us vs them" mentality. Or when men do it in person, its done as a teachable moment or to make light of the situation. Outside of rallies and a annon msg board, men generally do not verbally attack women. A stranger is not my friend and would illicit a very negative response if i were attacked regardless of gender. Maybe simply, a straight man isn't trying to lay with another man, so when they are insulted by a man you should take it as your "brother" helping you get on lvl. Whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/21 06:37 PM |
| 2 | Why is our culture so sex obsessed?Like many have stated, ppl have sex to procreate...it is hardwired into our biology to reproduce for the survival of a species. You've stated that if that is indeed true, why are so many ppl not having children. I believe the issue is that society has influenced 1/2 that equation. We still have a desire to have sex to satiate our animalistic desires...but we've come up with various birth control methods. Society has made the pressures of raising a child much more costly than in the past. Where h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/21 05:22 AM |
| 0 | Traditional or Modern: No in BetweenI got lucky with a traditional girl (immigrant), non ambitious but lucked in a high paying career...best of all the worlds! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/21 04:01 AM |
| 1 | Traditional or Modern: No in BetweenI have a bit of personal exp in this. I've run into quite a few women with pretty low paying careers, with little ambition to move up, and coupled with the inability/desire to be a stellar homemaker. We fought quite a bit, esp since I'm a much higher earning individual with much more ambition. The likely outcome of a 2 income house is that there should be equally split home duties. Most take for granted that you make 100k+, and consider the 40hrs they spend making 40k should be treated as equal … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/21 02:52 AM |
| 5 | Q4All: How are we supposed to take dates seriously if they're sleeping around?As group C type person, once you find that person you wanna explore a future with, you have to have the "exclusive talk". If we're willing to label it, then I we're in a exclusive monogamous relationship. In your case, if you are serious about the person and ready to sleep with them, maybe you should have the conversation first to see if they feel the same. If you are just in the "kicking the tires" phase, you can't demand that they do not continue to explore their options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/21 07:42 AM |
| 3 | Women are always looking for a better man.I'm not sure about easier...we still live in a world where its generally easier for a woman to get a lay than a man. We have no idea about the quality of the hypothetical man in this situation. | /r/MGTOW | 03/01/19 04:57 AM |
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