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Question for BluePilljoseremarque/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 06:26 AM
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Discussionjoseremarque/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:35 AM
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So for you femininity makes a man less attractive. Does the reverse work for women? Would you prefer a feminine cisgendered woman over a masculine one?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 07:19 AM
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Do you use that as a pickup line? "Hey baby. I got 5000+ karma multiple gilded original submissions on various trp accounts. Wanna fuck?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 07:15 AM
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You can say whatever you want but sexual attraction works in preductable ways. How many "straight" guys have sucked dick for coke? How many "straight" guys have had sex in prison?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 07:19 PM
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Yeah and my definition has come from reading tons of RP source material and discussions with RP guys on this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 07:14 PM
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Everything else is made up as they go along. Your definition is made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 07:08 PM
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I have had this personal experience. Not willing to elaborate more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 07:02 PM
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Like a cup of Philz.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:57 PM
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We are discussing the behavior in OP. People can find that creepy whether or not they have ever heard of PUA, TRP, or the related language.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:55 PM
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99% of people have never heard of "amused mastery". That is just a "they hate us cause they ain't us" response. The sense of "creepiness" is a physiological response, like the crawling of the skin sensation when you see a live spider or a dead rat. People don't "decide" to be creeped out. They just are. Your response is just an attempt to avoid addressing a real issue by minimizing and deflecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:48 PM
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I heard that if you talk enough about game on the internet girls will want to touch your peepee.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:41 PM
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I ain't saying she's a gold digger... Yes. Actually, I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:40 PM
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Let's be real. You aren't getting any women, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:39 PM
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I've never liked those kind of people Racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:36 PM
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That is retarded. By that definition Josef Fritzl is a total Alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:32 PM
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Follow up question. Rank in order which you would you rather sleep with: 1) A cisgender woman 2) A transgender woman 3) An attractive gay man (he has volunteered his body for science) 4) A very effeminate non-threatening unattractive straight man 5) A masculine but unattractive straight man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:26 PM
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If you are sufficiently good looking there are easier ways. Not everyone has your character and work ethic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:25 PM
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You've never fingered a woman before? Frottage? Nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:24 PM
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I leave for 6 months and you're still here? How have you not been banned already?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:13 PM
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An incel is someone who is not mentally, emotionally, or socially capable relating to the opposite sex in a way that leads to consensual sexual relationships. A virgin is someone who has never had sex before.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:09 PM
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Jobs require work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:01 PM
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Trump is a dark triad with a fake watch and a rented sports car. Trump supporters are a bunch of ignorant thirsty bitches that think they are getting keys to the pad but really they are going to get pumped and dumped on election day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:56 PM
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I think it is very useful. Fail happens when people assume that alpha = attractive and beta = unattractive. In fact, different women find different combinations of alpha and beta attractive at different times. The advice "always be more alpha to be more attractive" only worked because it happened to be given to the most desperately beta of the betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:45 PM
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Trigger warning, please.
/r/MensRights15/09/16 01:18 AM
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I don't think it is necessarily wise to press for exact equality in all details, especially where a minimum sentence is involved. That is because mandatory minimum sentences are terrible and almost always highly politicized. We have already seen their abject failure in drug sentencing. Juries will be reluctant to send a woman to jail for 3 years for fondling a guy's dick, so they will prefer to acquit if no lower level punishment is available. Do you see how this sends the message to men that th…
/r/MensRights04/09/16 05:51 PM
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Universal Basic Income for all individuals + Universal health care, child care, quality year round schooling with 3 meals a day and after school programs for kids. The inequalities in welfare state can be corrected and will have benefits for all of society. Men and women are free to participate in the labor force. All children will have a decent standard of living regardless of who their parents are. Both sexes will maintain reproductive autonomy. Meanwhile, the current child support system is r…
/r/MensRights03/09/16 05:19 PM
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Phrase it in terms of sexual assault / battery: unwanted sexual touching of or by the genitals. Everyone has the right to the sexual integrity of their body.
/r/MensRights03/09/16 05:07 PM
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Under the language of the law, it covers “penetration with a foreign object” which can include fingers. Given the obvious physical differences between a man and woman, this law is biased against Men who are the natural “penetrators” during a sexual act. Gender neutral in wording, not so in fact.
/r/MensRights02/09/16 12:57 PM
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Why should society have to pay for your fuck up? 1) The propagation of the human race is not a "fuck up". 2) This logic is only applied to the sexual decision making of men and never to the sexual decision making of women.
/r/MensRights02/09/16 12:04 PM
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I think the MRAs are taking the wrong approach. If you want actual men's liberation you are going to need a comprehensive welfare state. I'm fine with that.
/r/MensRights02/09/16 12:02 PM
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The only other way we couldnt be is if society in general took on the child. What's wrong with that?
/r/MensRights31/08/16 07:07 AM
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Soft prostitution is even more common in wealthy suburban communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 08:19 PM
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Well if you were propositioned 100 times a week I would say that 30% might be low and you should be turning down even more. It would make sense. If you are offered sex only once a week and turn it down 30% of the time I would wonder why a healthy adult male would have such a low libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 11:10 PM
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If you could give me a number of times you were offered sex and a number of times you turned it down say in a typical week, that would really help me wrap my head around this. What would you say the average number would be?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 11:02 PM
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How often are you offered sex? Does your partner have an exceptionally high libido?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 10:43 PM
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How old are you? Do you have hypertension or arthritis? Do you have low T? Do you get less than 5 hours of sleep per day? Are you okay? Like are you depressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 10:38 PM
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Can you give me a percentage of times that you are explicitly offered sex and you refuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 04:07 PM
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What are we taking here, 1 in 10, 1 in 100,...?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 09:25 AM
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Turning down sex is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 04:50 AM
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In the original the woman consented to being perpetrated. In your version the man didn't consent to being penetrated. Maybe if he met a hot girl, agreed to get pegged and then found out that she had a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 11:35 PM
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Good analysis but you are assuming that men and women get the same amount of sympathy in the same situation. Not so. A woman in a wheelchair will get more sympathy than a man in a wheelchair. A woman who is homeless will get more sympathy than a man who is homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 11:25 PM
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To make it equivalent she should have offered to receive anal sex. Then while the guy was fucking her in the ass he noticed that she had a penis. Easy case: no rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 11:22 PM
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If the woman doesn't want sex and you're about to get married I would call it a red flag. If the MAN doesn't want to have sex that close to getting married it's a flashing red alarm with pulsating strobe lights and a tsunami warning siren.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 11:16 PM
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As someone who has been there, good luck. It's only going to get worse from here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 08:42 PM
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I thought you were being sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 04:12 PM
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I'm not sure I understand. Man? Not interested in sex? Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 04:09 PM
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Your idea of "fit" is more muscular than 99.9% of men. For those men, getting more muscular is great advice if you want to be more attractive to women. Distorted body images in the media, smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 04:06 PM
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Be realistic, how often does that really happen for guys? I can think of only twice in my life where that happened. Once I was so tired I was falling asleep on my feet and the other time I was deathly ill. Any other time I turned down sex it was because I wasn't attracted to the person offering.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 04:01 PM
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It’s akin to simply loitering around a business complex hoping you will get a job. Is funny that you are so dismissive of this. This is exactly how most women get laid. Not only will they get a job hanging around the business complex, while they are waiting they will get 13 emails with unsolicited job offers, 2 phone calls from long lost acquaintances that have heard they are in the job market and will offer them a position and 5 guys will drive by and yell out their window "Hey baby! Want a job…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 03:51 PM
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http://www.newsweek.com/2015/12/18/other-side-sexual-assault-crisis-403285.html
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 03:46 PM
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Don't respond to her. She is just here for the attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 07:32 PM
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If I had confidence to post my body I would XD Caught in another lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 07:11 PM
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The first true thing you have posted here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 07:09 PM
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Because that's what a raging narcissist would do, not someone who is too insecure to talk to boys. You are a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 04:56 PM
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What does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 07:56 AM
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You are a liar of epic proportions and this whole thread is a sham.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 07:54 AM
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Don't lie. You know your exact dress size. You spend an inordinate amount of time looking at yourself in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 07:42 AM
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The joke is on us, and everyone else commenting in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 07:41 AM
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It's you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 07:39 AM
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STOP FEEDING THE TROLL!!! She is a pathalogical attention seeker with an emotional disorder and in no way interested in your help. Mods, please delete this thread or permaban me. I can't take this shit anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 03:59 AM
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You are a terrible human being. You won't get any sympathy from me for your crocodile tears.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 03:03 AM
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You are NOT a victim. I'd know that passive aggressive bullshit anywhere, the tool of narcissistic abusers. You come here with your sob stories and your fake helplessness looking for sympathy and attention. There is only one villain in this tale and it's you. Fuck off, you horrible emotional vampire.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 02:10 AM
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I have no idea what "SMV" is but I do know based on the current scientific understanding of sexual attraction that it is extremely rare to find people who are universally believed to be attractive at an above average level. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 01:15 AM
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Supply and demand. Is it possible that there are amazingly attractive, successful, interesting women with great personalities that have an extreme fetish for fat, unemployed, socially retarded men? They must exist somewhere. Maybe there is a woman out there that spontaneously orgasms when you recite Pokemon stats but I think the rest of us would rather play to the odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 01:13 AM
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Because you are providing curt, nonresponsive replies, refusing all advice out of hand, and demonstrating zero interest in improving your situation all while being dismissive and condescending to everyone that is trying to help you. You deserve to be incel with that attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 01:06 AM
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Confidence and assertiveness is sexual arousing. She wants you to take control.
/r/askTRP24/06/16 12:54 AM
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They know you have more balls than they do. They want you to do things they themselves would never have the courage to do. You can either consider it as a form of encouragement and a challenge and do it to prove yourself before your fellow men or tell them to quit being pussies and do it themselves. Either way you establish yourself as the Alpha of the group.
/r/askTRP23/06/16 04:17 PM
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No. Im citing the actual research where we started this stupid conversation in the first place. If you want to get your factual data from Will Smith movies then go ahead. I'm done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 12:37 AM
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Nope. I enjoy approaching women. Even a "failed" conversation is a memorable learning experience. Worst case scenario I've lost a few minutes of my time. Failed business ventures for people who do not have adequate support structures means loss of income, lost homes, personal debt, lack of medical coverage, inability to feed their children and foregone career opportunities. The reward must match the risk, and the risk for some people is literally life and death.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 12:18 AM
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Lol. I have no problem approaching women. I also have no problem investing in index funds over picking individual stocks because statistically that gets the best return even if it's less risky. Investment is not a dock waving contest where the riskiest investor wins bragging rights. I'm glad that you have finally figured out that you have to consider both risk and reward in making a financial decision. You have yet to establish that entrepreneurship has the best risk vs reward for people who do …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 11:43 PM
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I thought you dropped an /s so I lolled but then I kept reading and realised that I was sadly mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 02:32 PM
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Fuck you, cake is awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 02:29 PM
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They may be the most ideological, which in your mind makes them the worst, but they are certainly not bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 02:20 PM
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So then what are you complaining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 02:15 PM
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Uh huh. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 02:11 PM
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He got away with it though didn't he, at the time. The director, the other actors, the crew all just sat there silently while he berated this man. He was rightly crucified after the fact, but as it was happening the people around him let him get away with totally socially unacceptable behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 02:07 PM
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I didn't see any limits in that linked example, did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 02:03 PM
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Which is why you read the sidebars and endorsed contributors. Did you even read my comment? The community is more than the latest batch of noobs that shit post there every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 01:54 PM
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So you mean men have to work harder to get women aroused rather than just showing up? That must be such a burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 01:51 PM
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Sidebars + Endorsed Contributors. It's the collective wisdom of all the people who were able to use the red pill to have a successful relationships and therefore stopped going on /r/TheRedPill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 01:45 PM
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I hope you do a double backflip off a very tall building because it's "high risk high reward".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 01:31 PM
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The real problem begins here: I can't ignore her because STOP RIGHT THERE. Yes you can. You can and you should.
/r/askTRP22/06/16 11:52 AM
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Taking out credit cards to buy lotto tickets is also high risk high reward. It's also stupid even if you can name some people that won the powerball. All imperical evidence says that most entrepreneurial efforts fail and that almost all that succeed are by people with established resources. Your counter to that is that you hate it and it makes you angry. Take that feels over reals bullshit elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 12:04 AM
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Exactly why your attitude is so hypocritical for a red piller. Ignore reality because it makes you feel good rather than face facts as they are. Realizing that entrepreneurship is unfeasable for most people does not mean you do nothing. If you are broke and your family is broke you are way better off shooting for a scholarship at a state school, get a full ride for a stem degree or professional school and try to land a stable career with a respectable salary. Once you've developed enough social …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 10:16 PM
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Muggsy Bouges was an NBA star at 5'3" so keep on telling yourself that you don't need to be tall to play professional basketball. Ignore the fact the the average player is 6'7" which makes them taller than 99% of Americans. Ignore that if you are over 7' then there is a 30% chance you played in the NBA at some point in your life. I'm sure if shorty just tries hard enough and believes in his dreams he too can get a Championship ring. Meanwhile anyone with half a brain would realize the deck is st…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 08:15 PM
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Anecdotes notwithstanding, the research indicates quite the opposite: Entrepreneurs don’t have a special gene for risk—they come from families with money University of California, Berkeley economists Ross Levine and Rona Rubenstein analyzed the shared traits of entrepreneurs in a 2013 paper, and found that most were white, male, and highly educated. “If one does not have money in the form of a family with money, the chances of becoming an entrepreneur drop quite a bit,” Levine tells Quartz. For …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 03:59 PM
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Wealthy and upper middle class aren't measured in dollar amounts. If you don't have to work for a living you are wealthy. If your parents are educated and provided with a middle class life style growing up you are upper middle class. Koum clearly was financially secure enough that he was able to take a year off to travel south America and play ultimate Frisbee before he started WhatsApp.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 12:32 AM
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False. Most entrepreneurs are born with the social and economic capital to take risks. It's almost exclusively the upper middle class that go to top schools, can afford to take unpaid internships, have business connections, and enough of a safety net that they can take risks. Entrepreneurship is how the somewhat wealthy become very wealthy due to luck and hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 09:19 PM
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It's not indicating that you are undesirable. Its pointing out a flaw, i.e. piercing the ego bubble. Negging is actually the most effective against very attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 12:03 AM
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Because women that use sex and gifts as a tool for manipulation are not worth committing to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 04:55 PM
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My experience and understanding of negging is the complete opposite. You insult her and she either laughs, feigned anger, says "you're so meeeeaannn", or playfully hits you in the arm. You deflate her ego but at the same time building both comfort and attraction, no mean feat if you can pull it off. How is your version supposed to be effective? What is the chain of events that leads from you genuinely insulting her to getting in her pants?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 06:14 AM
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"Just to be clear I am exclusively interested in sex and will never want a relationship from a woman no matter how long I've been having casual sex with her." That is exactly what OPs mom is suggesting. I'm glad you agree that it is absolutely horrible advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 05:32 PM
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Do they literally say "I am only interested in casual sex", especially a guy, especially before establishing any kind of connection or relationship? No. You infer from the fact that you found each other on fetlife and are meeting for the first time doing tequila shots at a dive bar in the tenderloin.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 05:20 PM
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I think you misunderstand the discussion here. Everyone wants casual sex. Everyone has casual sex. But very rarely will anyone say "I'm only here for the casual sex" even though everyone knows that is exactly what is going on. And that's in the kink scene. If you think you are going to roll into a first date with a stranger and say "Right off the bat, I'm only here for casual sex" you are in for a bad time. Even if you met on Tinder and your profile pic is a topless selfie it's "I'm just looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 04:44 PM
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Been there. Dude I'm all up in the SF kink game. I think your impression of me is waaaaay off. Check your assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 04:26 PM
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Dude. IT. DOESN'T. MATTER. I've toured porn studios and nobody admits that they have seen the films made there. I've gone to erotic art shows where people pretend to talk about the brush strokes. Leather and bondage stores where everyone is "just looking". It has absolutely nothing to do with being sex positive. It's just being coy. A different way of communicating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 04:04 PM
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If you play repeated times with the same partner then it's not really casual sex anymore: chicken and egg. If you get to know each other well you could say "it's business time" to mean that you are interested in no strings attached sex but that is pretty useless advice to someone you haven't already established a relationship with. I'm not sure if anyone's solved an iterated prisoner's dilemma for large groups of people yet. They haven't. It's literally a huge field of study on its own that enco…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 03:57 PM
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Personally, I've found it off-putting when a date seems to be exclusively seeking an LTR. Do you think such a person would be well served by telling you on a first date "My biological clock is ticking. I need babies now!", even if it were 100% the truth? Even though many women are thinking it, only OAG says something like that. If that is terrible advice for women, why would you tell men to come out and say then only want casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 03:47 PM
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Lol. I live in a large metropolitan city. Neither math nor human nature change based on your cultural superiority complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 03:21 PM
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But everyone does lie about it. That is the standard; it is expected. Telling one person to buck the trend is fine when you are not the one to suffer the consequences which is what makes it bad advice. It has nothing to do with the social desirability of casual sex. It's a collective action problem. Everyone would benefit if everyone were completely honest about their desire for casual sex. However, some people can lie and thereby gain an advantage in the sexual marketplace. If other people are …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 07:23 AM
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No offense but your mom has terrible advice. That is exactly the kind of solipsistic advice that is convenient for women and horrible for the man receiving the advice. It's a signaling problem. People who want casual sex don't say that they want casual sex so anyone who openly admits to only wanting casual sex is actually a depraved pervert that only sees you as a cum dumpster.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 06:09 PM
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You read it but I lived it. "Low libido" is a compete misnomer. Cases of low libido with a physiological cause are the easy ones and generally the only ones that get solved. In the other cases you will often see that the "Low Libido" partner is masturbating frequently, cheating, or mysteriously regaining their libido as soon as they break up. Dead bedrooms are a symptom of broken sexual relationships that mainstream advice had been completely incapable of addressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 03:16 AM
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"Desire discrepancies" is not a dead bedroom. We're not talking about where one person wants it 4 times a week and the other only wants it once a week. We are talking about people who have gone months or years without having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 02:25 AM
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That's why the "reality" version has a pretty much 0% success rate at curing dead bedrooms. The proof is in the pudding and the proof says that medical experts have no idea what they are talking about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 12:21 AM
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it fosters misogyny (captain dynamic, AWALT) while promoting abuse techniques (dread game, negging). I've found that the blue pill makes men vulnerable to emotionally abusive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/16 11:38 PM
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He's saying that these hoes aint loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/16 11:36 PM
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I understand just fine. Expressing some kind of vulnerability is attractive when coming from a position of strength but it in no way defines Chad. A neckbeard is a neckbeard with or without a sob story. Chad is a Chad with or without a sob story. The point of attraction is the masculinity, confidence, assertiveness and good looks. That is what makes the pussy wet. If he also has some kind of repentant story that might make him more romantically appealing for a relationship but that doesn't make …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 01:00 AM
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I don't understand the question. Men are happier when they marry women that are more attractive than them. Women are more likely to consider factors other than looks when determining attractiveness. Is there supposed to be a "gotcha" in here somewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 01:59 AM
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There is absolutely zero truth to what you just said. If looking at a girl gets his dick hard he couldn't care less what his friends think.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 01:38 AM
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No. With Chad Thundercock is the badboy, the heartbreaker etc represents the prodigal son who hurts those he loves, wastes money, becomes a party animals... and then gains popularity, prestige, and the adulation of women! He is never humbled. There is no greater redemption story. It's like an episode of Game of Thrones. Sometimes the bad guys win. It's the hard working and loyal betas that have their virtues rejected by society and thrown in their face. The betas got rock bottom but there are no…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 09:15 PM
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No. With Chad Thundercock is the badboy, the heartbreaker etc represents the prodigal son who hurts those he loves, wastes money, becomes a party animals... and then gains popularity, prestige, and the adulation of women! He is never humbled. There is no greater redemption story. It's like an episode of Game of Thrones. Sometimes the bad guys win. It's the hard working and loyal betas that have their virus rejected by society and thrown in their face. The betas got rock bottom but there are no f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 08:30 PM
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No. With Chad Thundercock is the badboy, the heartbreaker etc represents the prodigal son who hurts those he loves, wastes money, becomes a party animals... and then gains popularity, prestige, and the adulation of women! He is never humbled. There is no greater redemption story. It's like an episode of Game of Thrones. Sometimes the bad guys win. It's the hard working and loyal betas that have their virus rejected by society and thrown in their face. The betas got rock bottom but there are no f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 08:28 PM
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No. With Chad Thundercock is the badboy, the heartbreaker etc represents the prodigal son who hurts those he loves, wastes money, becomes a party animals... and then gains popularity, prestige, and the adulation of women! He is never humbled. There is no greater redemption story. It's like an episode of Game of Thrones. Sometimes the bad guys win. It's the hard working and loyal betas that have their virus rejected by society and thrown in their face. The betas got rock bottom but there are no f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 08:28 PM
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No. With Chad Thundercock is the badboy, the heartbreaker etc represents the prodigal son who hurts those he loves, wastes money, becomes a party animals... and then gains popularity, prestige, and the adulation of women! He is never humbled. There is no greater redemption story. It's like an episode of Game of Thrones. Sometimes the bad guys win. It's the hard working and loyal betas that have their virus rejected by society and thrown in their face. The betas got rock bottom but there are no f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 08:28 PM
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No. With Chad Thundercock is the badboy, the heartbreaker etc represents the prodigal son who hurts those he loves, wastes money, becomes a party animals... and then gains popularity, prestige, and the adulation of women! It's the hard working and loyal betas that have their virus rejected by society and thrown in their face. The betas got rock bottom but there are no family it friends to redeem them, only the sweet embrace of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 08:26 PM
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No. With Chad Thundercock is the badboy, the heartbreaker etc represents the prodigal son who hurts those he loves, wastes money, becomes a party animals... and then gains popularity, prestige, and the adulation of women! It's the hard working and loyal betas that have their virus rejected by society and thrown in their face. The betas got rock bottom but there are no family it friends to redeem them, only the sweet embrace of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 08:26 PM
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No. With Chad Thundercock is the badboy, the heartbreaker etc represents the prodigal son who hurts those he loves, wastes money, becomes a party animals... and then gains popularity, prestige, and the adulation of women! It's the hard working and loyal betas that have their virus rejected by society and thrown in their face. The betas got rock bottom but there are no family it friends to redeem them, only the sweet embrace of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 08:26 PM
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No. With Chad Thundercock is the badboy, the heartbreaker etc represents the prodigal son who hurts those he loves, wastes money, becomes a party animals... and then gains popularity, prestige, and the adulation of women! It's the hard working and loyal betas that have their virus rejected by society and thrown in their face. The betas got rock bottom but there are no family it friends to redeem them, only the sweet embrace of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 08:25 PM
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No. With Chad Thundercock is the badboy, the heartbreaker etc represents the prodigal son who hurts those he loves, wastes money, becomes a party animals... and then gains popularity, prestige, and the adulation of women! It's the hard working and loyal betas that have their virus rejected by society and thrown in their face. The betas got rock bottom but there are no family it friends to redeem them, only the sweet embrace of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 08:25 PM
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No. With Chad Thundercock is the badboy, the heartbreaker etc represents the prodigal son who hurts those he loves, wastes money, becomes a party animals... and then gains popularity, prestige, and the adulation of women! It's the hard working and loyal betas that have their virus rejected by society and thrown in their face. The betas got rock bottom but there are no family it friends to redeem them, only the sweet embrace of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 08:25 PM
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No. With Chad Thundercock is the badboy, the heartbreaker etc represents the prodigal son who hurts those he loves, wastes money, becomes a party animals... and then gains popularity, prestige, and the adulation of women! It's the hard working and loyal betas that have their virus rejected by society and thrown in their face. The betas got rock bottom but there are no family it friends to redeem them, only the sweet embrace of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 08:25 PM
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I'm sure there is some optimal level of desire for neoteny. Too little and you wind up chasing grandmas after menopause. Too much and you wind up chasing little kids. Neither one will allow you to reproduce so the most evolutionarily successful level would be somewhere in between. Since there is genetic variation between people it's not surprising that there can be outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 10:53 AM
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So her molester had sex with her after she went through puberty and she had a child. Having sex with someone before they go through puberty by definition does not pass on your genes. Every time the molester had sex with her before that was evolutionarily pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 08:21 AM
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Statistically, pedophilia in general is an extremely rare abnormality that is an evolutionary dead end. No one passes on their genes by fucking prepubescent children. You may as well ask what the evo psych explanation for downs syndrome is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 02:55 AM
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Modern hygiene standards. A women with no body hair can be anyone of any age with two bucks for a razor.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 02:50 AM
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Nobody makes money learning Arabic. If two native Arabic speakers do a business transaction in the middle east it's in English. The best you can do is translater for the CIA.
/r/askTRP12/06/16 02:46 AM
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Next.
/r/askTRP11/06/16 05:04 PM
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Do not talk to her at all for any reason without a lawyer present.
/r/askTRP11/06/16 05:03 PM
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Is it any better than learning to play the guitar or any other social skill? I'd file this under "have interesting hobbies". If that is what excites and interests you then go for it. Your genuine enthusiasm will be infectious and that is what counts.
/r/askTRP11/06/16 04:07 PM
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Do you think intense marketing campaigns are the only reason I find halitosis unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 03:05 PM
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The world is a big place with many many different cultures in it. Is there even a single one where "gun-totin’, skull-crushing warrior women" are considered attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 03:04 PM
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Testosterone increases body hair growth and men have higher levels of testosterone. It's just a side effect. Not everything that evolves does so for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 02:01 AM
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You haven't seen much hentai have you? Even traditional stuff (google Shunga) had breasts that would be larger than those of the average Japanese woman. The absolute size of what is considered "large" isn't as important as the idea that larger than average is more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 01:48 AM
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Women have longer and thicker hair on their head than men therefore it is perceived as a feminine trait. Men have longer and thicker leg and armpit hair than women so it is perceived as a masculine trait. It's not rocket surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 01:25 AM
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Example?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 01:14 AM
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But hair, including leg and armpit hair is also a masculine trait. You might as well ask why mustaches are unattractive on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 01:13 AM
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then why are big breasts only recently considered attractive? they werent considered attractive at all until about a hundred years ago. Lol. Google image search "ancient fertility goddess"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 01:11 AM
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Secondary sexual characteristics. It makes them look like a woman and not a boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 01:07 AM
3

Is english your first language? I can hardly understand what you wrote.
/r/askTRP10/06/16 03:58 PM
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"That's cool. We can just fuck."
/r/askTRP10/06/16 03:15 PM
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Satanism does work at getting people to be non-Christian.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 01:20 AM
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Your post amounts to "I can get sex easily and you losers have to work at it so I am better than you ". I don't think that is a view that anyone can change for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 01:18 AM
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A 30 year old in a position of trust molesting a 12 year old numerous times. I guess that is what it takes to convict a woman of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 08:36 PM
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Are you telling me that statutory rape between an overage female and and underage male is ever prosecuted? (Other than teachers who have additional legal obligations above and beyond statutory rape laws) Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 07:47 PM
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By the 8th century Islam had conquered the Christian lands[124] of Syria, Iraq, Iran and Egypt.[125] This swift conquest further severed Western Europe from many of the great works of Aristotle, Plato, Euclid and others, many of which were housed in the great library of Alexandria. Having come upon such a wealth of knowledge, the Arabs, who viewed non-Arab languages as inferior, even as a source of pollution,[126] employed conquered Christians and Jews to translate these works from the native Gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 03:54 AM
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Western Europeans who developed the scientific method built on the work of Arabs who developed the fields, of Medicine, Astronomy, and Mathematics who turn built on the Greek discoveries of Geometry and Formal Logic. Who gets to take credit for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 03:23 AM
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Western ideas? Ideas and concepts are universal and are not bound to any one geography.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 02:21 AM
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No its not. The red pill is a set of IDEAS not values. "Take your moralizing elsewhere" as they are wont to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 01:18 AM
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Lack of consent is an element of rape. Look it up. When you can tell me what the elements of rape are, or you even know what it means for there to be elements of a crime, get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 05:08 PM
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Most criminal codes have defenses listed in their own section. Yours is HERE I'm done. I have no interest in playing amatuer hour with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 01:31 AM
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No. Just no. You are flailing around like a kitten in a bath tub.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 12:04 AM
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Yes. Exactly. For example, the sport of boxing is legal. But punching someone in the face is battery. But consent is an affirmative defense to battery. So it's not illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:28 PM
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It depends more on her perceived SMV more than her actual but being below her at all makes you fair game. The lower you are than her the more brutal and nasty she needs to be in order to prove her social worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:22 PM
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I am responding your claim that an affirmative defense is different from being legal. It is not. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:19 PM
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You are wrong. Source: Law school.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:03 PM
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I don't think you realize that affirmative defenses are actually written in to the law. They are part of the legal code. You can't say that the law hasn't changed. There was a behavior : having a sex with a person when that person subjectively did not consent but objectively a reasonable person would believe that she had consented. That was legal. Now it is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:36 PM
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Under the old law it was still rape and still illegal. It was just possible to get out of being charged for that rape using the defense that you misunderstood. Now you don’t have that defense. Okay. So reasonably misunderstanding consent used to be legal. Now it is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:16 PM
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Do you know the banana sophisticated glittering nothingness?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:14 PM
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How does that contradict the 80/20 rule in any way? Also the 80/20 rule applies to fucking not dating. There's no prize for being an emotional doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:08 PM
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The truth is objective in this matter. Your personal experiences don't make 2 + 2 = 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 06:33 PM
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I'm sorry. We live on the same planet whether that upsets your feelings or not. If your don't like it I hear Mars is becoming habitable in a few hundred years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 06:02 PM
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So there is some randomness and leeway to the 80/20 rule? That doesn't make it bullshit. That makes it only 90% true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 05:51 PM
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If the consent was implied and she layer changes her mind how can you disprove it? With current implied consent laws at least you could point to her behavior and show that a reasonable person would have a implied from her actions that she consents. With a affirmative consent that becomes impossible because intent is purely subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 05:49 PM
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Both are subsets of biological realism. Only difference is that biological differences between genders are very well understood and documented by mainstream scientists while race realism is 5% biology 95% feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 05:45 PM
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Now it has been classified that the responsibility is on the person initiating the sex to make sure they actually got consent Translation : it is now the burden of the man to get explicit consent because he now has no way to defend himself if he gets implied consent and she changes her mind the next day
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 05:15 PM
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Validation is tasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 05:09 PM
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Do so voices (between 7 and 10) are the most attractive. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 02:24 PM
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Before the latency period of childhood development children are indeed sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 02:23 PM
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If Alvin and the Chipmunks is a 1 and Marvin Gaye is a 10, what is your ideal level of deep voice? What do you think the average woman would find most attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:16 AM
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"Why? Are we dating?" or "I was about to ask you the same thing." or "lol"
/r/askTRP06/06/16 03:41 AM
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So women traditionally got married an had kids as soon as they had their first period. How does that change the argument? If anything it strengthens it. Before modern times sexuality was synonymous with child bearing and motherhood. That is no longer the case. The impetus for emotional maturation has been removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 11:59 PM
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Modern in the historical sense, as in pre-medieval. In medieval times people married as young as 12 but didn't have their first child on average until 16. Young girls were responsible for raising their siblings. Puberty basically inducted women into a lifetime of childcare with all the attendant responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 11:29 PM
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Women mature when they bear children and become responsible for the life and death of several small human beings. In the pre-modern world this happened around 14. Modern women do not face such responsibility. A single childless woman in at twenty eight has never matured emotionally because she hasn't had to. For most of human history she would have been raising grandkids by then. It's like a kid that has a trust fund and never had to work a day in their life: permanent adolescence. A fundamental…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 07:51 PM
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The goal posts are RIGHT THERE IN THE FUCKING TITLE. If women's brains stop developing in their teens I'm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 02:24 PM
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Addressed in thread you referenced below. It in no way says that women's BRAINS stop developing, which is the title of OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 01:21 PM
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In the brain, which is NOT mentioned in the linked article. Grab your tits for a second and actually read the source again. Seriously, critical reading skills are highly deficient on this sub. Try giving me an exact quote that shows that BRAINS stop developing at that age. I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 01:20 PM
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No. There is a critical difference. One is a matter of biological fact which nobody disputes. The other is a matter of social and psychological circumstances which rational people can disagree upon. Painting the red pill position as the former vs the latter is a significant straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:47 PM
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So do you agree that masculine traits are more attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 04:03 PM
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Mmm... Queen Bee...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 04:02 PM
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So do you agree that masculine traits, in general, are more attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 04:00 PM
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It literally specifically states that women stop maturing because of biology. Talking about whether it specifically mentions brains or not is merely semantics. It's not semantics at all. The title of OP is If women's brains stop developing in their teens, It says they do not mature because their bodies can physically bear children thus are destined for a social role of caring for children, not because their brains stop developing. Please, this is getting embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 03:57 PM
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That still does not say that a woman's BRAIN stops developing. while females mature earlier in life, they also stop maturing at around the age of eighteen "females mature". No mention of brain. The reason why women stop maturing at around the age of eighteen also has to do with their biological destiny as child-bearers "women stop maturing". AGAIN. No mention of brain. Women’s emotional proclivities are directly related to her childrearing duties which biology has assigned to her. "Women’s emoti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 03:09 PM
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It could be that there is some evolutionary benefit to longer vocal chords (a bigger trachea, therefore better aerobic fitness?). If longer vocal chords indicate fitness then why are men not attracted to women with deep voices? It could simply imply he is healthy. When people get sick the pitch of their voice doesn't go up. I'm going to need to see at least some evidence that correlates health to vocal pitch. It could be that, when food was scarce, malnourished people had higher voices so it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:58 PM
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Straight women are generally attracted to masculine features Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:25 PM
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I reread it. Where, exactly, does it say "women's brains stop developing in their teens"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:21 PM
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Too low sounds masculine. Too high sounds like a child. Even women with very deep voices are higher pitched than the lowest male voices.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:18 PM
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That is a very interesting point. Do you think an agitated deep voice sounds more attractive than a calm high pitched voice?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:13 PM
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I would not be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 10:43 AM
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If you agree that women are generally attracted to masculine traits then we have a basis for conversation. Is that the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 10:34 AM
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Addicts often experience this. Drinking gives an alcoholic temporary pleasure but ultimately makes them unhappy. Lots of unhealthy habits work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 10:33 AM
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That is a link to a random blog post on a random website that no one has heard of. Show me Red Pill sidebar, endorsed contributor, or at least a highly upvoted post.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 10:16 AM
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Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 10:14 AM
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YAY! AGREEMENT!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 09:37 AM
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Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 09:37 AM
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YAY! AGREEMENT!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 09:06 AM
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So do you agree that masculine traits are more attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:59 AM
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I'm going to take that to mean that you have no response.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:59 AM
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You just repeat the question. WHY? Why are women not attracted to feminine and childlike voices?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:58 AM
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Deeper voices in women are more sultry but higher pitched voices are more feminine. There is a trade off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:44 AM
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Do you know Elmo? I'd do anything for a selfie with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:41 AM
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I read this in high C. =P
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:39 AM
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Forget the accents. What reason would we have to believe that testosterone levels and waist to hip ratio relate to attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:38 AM
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Why? Why is it universally sexy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:35 AM
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So do you agree that masculine traits are more attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:31 AM
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Your source says the immune system is stronger because the higher level of testosterone lowers cortisol. Are you agreeing that women are biologically programmed to find indicators of high testosterone attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 07:05 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 03:36 AM
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I'm not sure about that. I was talking about this : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equilibrium_selection
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 03:08 AM
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Game theory allows for multiple optimal strategies to coexist. Both betas and alphas can be successful given the right circumstances. I do think that for many years social structures such as marriage put the thumb in favor of K selection. Recent social and political changes like the sexual revolution and the advent if the welfare state have flipped that in a blink of an eye evolutionarily speaking. That has a market opportunity so to speak for Alphas to spread their genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:55 AM
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No red pill claims that their brains stop developing. They stop maturing emotionally because society demands nothing of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:41 AM
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Having sex with implied but not affirmative consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:26 AM
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There is a difference between pleasure and happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 01:08 AM
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Nope. Look. I think you are a smart commenter and you usually contribute a lot to the conversation but you either need to learn to quit when you are ahead or admit when you are wrong. In either case, I'm off to grab a beer with my brothers. Enjoy your evening.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 11:19 PM
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"Attempt to keep a culture pure from foreign influence" has nothing to do with "the red pill has been rejected throughout history". I'm only going to ask you one last time to stop moving the goal posts and answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 11:03 PM
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You claimed that red pill has been rejected thoroughout history. Stop deflecting and back up your assertions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 10:39 PM
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Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 10:22 PM
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Because women crave drama even if though it makes them deeply unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 06:57 PM
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I'm going to need a citation on that it had been rejected throughout history. As far as I know the red pill is only a few years old. Think of it like classical physics. Newton's laws described the motion of objects for hundreds of years. Once we started learning about relativity and quantum mechanics we found out that Newton's laws are not the complete story. New theories added detail and nuance to the previous ones. It didn't mean that water would start flowing up hill and the sun started rotat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 04:45 PM
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Are we discussing whether red pill principles accurately reflect reality (they do) or whether the people who post regularly on /r/theredpill are losers (they are). The two are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 03:57 PM
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Is that supposed to be an analogy or something? You lost me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 03:20 PM
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Women all have two X chromosomes and all the attendant biological and psychological baggage that that entails. There is no such analogue for soldiers. One could be a desk jockey in Denver. The other could be special forces in Afghanistan.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 03:12 PM
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How many bad, drunk, or distracted drivers do there have to be on the road in order for it to make sense to drive defensively?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 03:07 PM
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A key tenet of RP is that women pursue their own sexual self interest. SHOCKING! I suppose it violates polite sensibilities that women are not wonderful. They are not Disney princesses. They are neither saints nor angels. Women, like all other people, look out for number one first and foremost. If there is any defensiveness it is because society conspires to encourage and enable women's worst behaviors. All cultural checks and balances on rampant destructive narcissism have been dismantled with …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 02:30 PM
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Not low quality. They are above average. High enough to get the attention of high alphas for casual sex but not enough to secure commitment. They could be more selective with who they sleep with and value stability and responsibility over attractiveness..... .lol I couldn't even finish that sentence with a straight face.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 04:46 AM
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Yep. Once the doctor gives you the cure you stop going to the doctor. I still drop by /r/askTRP now and then to pay it forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 03:22 AM
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They haven't been clarified. They have been changed. Things that used to be legal are now illegal. Please stop pulling shit out of your ass. You are way out of your depth in this discussion and it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 12:58 AM
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So is not changing the laws of consent, it's just making it so that the definition of consent is different than it was before?!? I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about. A crime is defined by a number of elements and each element has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. One element in the crime of rape is an absence of consent. If you change the definition of consent you change definition of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 12:31 AM
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Sadly...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 12:26 AM
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It clearly changes the definition because it changes what "consent" means. If anything it raises more questions that our answers. Specifically, which elements of the crime of rape will be easier to prove either in terms of evidence, law, or precedure?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 12:20 AM
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How does it lay a better groundwork? What does it change, specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 10:46 PM
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Prosecuting rape is already a procedural nightmare. It is by far the most complex, difficult, and emotionally charged crime in a legal sense. Do you know some Law schools don't even cover rape in their first year criminal law classes because it would take an entire semester to cover it in its own? And then you want to add another completely subjective and completely unprovable element. Ever problem that now exists with the prosecution of rape will only be magnified.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 02:59 PM
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Mods. Pls. That title.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 01:52 AM
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37% of vegetarians eat meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 01:50 AM
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Omega here is used as a short hand for the most beta of the beta. I don't agree with the definition, but in any case, I agree that the way it is used interchangeably confuses the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 11:53 PM
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That is literally meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 11:38 PM
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Why is it inappropriate?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 10:50 PM
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So French kissing wouldn't count? Would you French kiss your grandmother?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 09:57 PM
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What do you define as sexual? Is penetrating someone while wearing a condom not sexual because your genitals are not touching?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 09:07 PM
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Masturbation is sexual. If you were asexual you would have no sexual desire and thus no reason to masturbate. In fact, masturbation is a bigger indicator that you are not asexual even than having sex! You might have sex because you were pressured, or felt social expectation, or wanted to be emotionally close to some one or make them happy. But masturbation is ONLY about sexual pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 07:58 PM
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You masturbate. That means you are 1000% not asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 07:11 PM
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If I saw a dude flirting, hugging, kissing, and cuddling with my girlfriend I would punch him in the face. If a teacher did that with a student he would get fired. If he was doing the same with a child he would be in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 06:59 PM
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Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 05:02 PM
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TMI dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 05:01 PM
1

That's sexual. You just haven't matured sexually past the 5th grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 03:50 PM
1

Can't you say you are attracted to women? Why define yourself with a negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 03:23 PM
1

How do you distinguish your relationship from good friends that don't have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 03:08 PM
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The men you are telling to exercise self control in order to be masculine are not even in control of themselves. Thus your advice is more than just misplaced. It's down right harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 06:13 AM
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If you have no power and exercise self control what have you accomplished? Restraint implies that there is something to restrain. Telling the powerless to exercise self control is like telling the starving to avoid gluttony or the humiliated to avoid pride.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 05:54 AM
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You just linked to a RP post to define BP, a post that defines it as self-delusion, naivete, and cuckoldry. ... I accept your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 04:53 AM
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100% .. The rest.. Learn 2 math
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 04:50 AM
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The second is agreed upon. I'm going to need a secondary source for definitions one and three.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 04:20 AM
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How would you feel if your boyfriend only liked you for your tits? It's the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 04:18 AM
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You must be new here. When BP is pressed to give a concrete alternative to the RP it's just satire. When is commitment to rational discourse is questioned suddenly it becomes serious business that is never defined formalized documented or agreed upon. It's Schroedingers subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 12:49 AM
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Self control from a position of weakness is the ethos of obedient slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 11:21 PM
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I thought it was just satire?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 10:33 PM
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I would rather be with a woman that was 90% with me for who I am and 10% for what I could provide than vice versa. Are you trying to say this is not a valid concern or that it is not beneficial for men to make sure they are closer to one of those categories rather than the other? I have friends with 8 figure trust funds. Despite being reasonably good looking, charismatic individuals who never lacked for female attention, they have spent their entire adult dating lives struggling with this dichot…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:32 PM
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Alpha and beta is a continuum. Sure we can agree that if all she wants is your cash then she is a good digger. What if it's 90% cash and 10% your pretty eyes? What it's 50% your cash 50% your quirky sense of humor? Would it be better if it was only 10% your cash and 90% the way your forearms look in a rolled up flannel shirt when you're chopping wood? Let's say you could change your behavior and the way you relate to women to ensure that you got more of the latter and less of the former. I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 08:32 PM
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So it's not good enough to say that "women desire different qualities in a partner". It makes a critical difference whether she wants the D because of my winning charm or just the number of zeros in my bank account. That's the difference between being alpha fucks and beta bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 07:48 PM
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Fair enough. I want to be desired for who I am not what I can provide. I want to be an ends not a means. That at least I think most people can agree. I still get a kick out of being objectified though. Maybe that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 07:13 PM
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Men don't want to be attractive for their qualities. They want to attractive, period. They want to be objectified.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 06:44 PM
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Alpha is more than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 03:40 PM
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I don't think it is an issue of extreme, it's an issue of balance. Society gets from young men exactly what it gives. If you feel that these men are failing society maybe you should take a long look and see how society failed them. I may come across super cynical in all this but I'm not. Men have an inherent chivalry that is a resource waiting to be tapped. Young men may have occupied Poland and slaughtered millions in the Chinese Cultural Revolution but they also invaded Normandy and freed the …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 05:23 AM
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"The Enjoy the Decline" folk are the very folks I have been talking about: shitted on by society. No one individual can act on behalf of society. I'm sure you are aware of the collective action problem? You can be a boy scout or a saint and struggle to better everyone else while receiving nothing but heaps of scorn, changing nothing and martyring yourself in the process. Or you can watch out for number one and if you have to be the scapegoat then at least you can do so from the comfort of your r…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 05:07 AM
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Are you personally knocking on the doors of millions or people? SOCIETY is failing these men, a point you repeatedly and stubbornly choose to ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 04:43 AM
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And you know what? For some reason, people wouldn't let me be a virgin anymore. There was a conspiracy to get me laid, with friends contributing money for transportation, and another friend pretending she wasn't seducing me until she got me into the hotel room. Ah yes. With a small loan of a million dollars I was able to earn a great living for myself all on my own. You realize many of the people we are talking about don't even have friends. And if they do have friends, their friends aren't gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 04:36 AM
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You haven't pointed out the error. You are simply stating that there is an error without specifying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 03:15 AM
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Saying "its not that simple" is equally vacuous if you don't say how or why is not that simple. Your comment amounts to "Nuh-uh, you're a poopy head" but at least that makes a falsifiable claim about the contents of your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 02:34 AM
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What explanatory power does "everyone is different" have? You might as well say "It's God's will" or "just because". How is your explanation any different than the those last two?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 01:52 AM
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What nuance is there in saying that analysis is impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 12:48 AM
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What does SOCIETY have to offer disaffected young men??? It's nice that you have a feel good story about pulling yourself up by your boot straps but you are ignoring the masses. You want them to strive and sacrifice for a greater purpose. What do they get in return other than heaps of scorn? Are they all going to come over to your house for peach cobbler? Is your sister going to give them all hand jobs by the pool? Are the millions of unemployed all going to get summer jobs at your uncle's car d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 10:58 PM
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The article only mentions relative increase and not absolute importance of intelligence. If men cared about appearance vs intelligence 98:2 and now they care about them 97:3 then you could say that the importance of intelligence increased by 50%. Does anyone have access to the full text of the paper?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 10:38 PM
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She hasn't stated an opinion on that question so saying that you agree with her doesn't say anything. A simple answer will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 10:35 PM
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Wow. Blooper ends debate by declaring that all humans are special snowflakes and it impossible to generalize anything about anyone ever. Wrap it up folks, we're done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 10:27 PM
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You are unilaterally declaring a literal question a rhetorical question and then refusing to answer it. It looks like you are the one uninterested in debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 10:23 PM
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Between incels and neets there are tens of millions of young men without any hope of establishing family or a career. For every one person complaining about the decline there are hundreds that suffer in silence. They literally have no vested interest in the future of society. And the same people are ridiculed, shunned, and blamed for their own situation and, as largely cis white males, the scape goat for societies ills. It used to be that young men were offered a place and purpose, honor, respec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 07:20 PM
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You realize a vast majority of disillusioned young men have never heard of the red pill? TRP provides an outlet and an explanation for a small minority but most are just checking out. Take your fake ass concern elsewhere. Your moralistic hand-wringing holds no power here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 03:37 PM
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Why should we help save a society that demonizes, shames, and rejects us?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 03:04 PM
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For a large subset of the male population things have been getting worse as long as they have been alive and they only have to look to their own experiences to see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 02:46 PM
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"Let them eat cake."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 02:36 PM
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Proof is in the results. Women's influence over the education system increases boy's behavior issues and performance have declined while girls have long surpassed them. The system is failing boys as it fails to address them and their needs. The idea of boys as "defective girls" did not come from nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 12:18 AM
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Men do not have trouble attracting women their own age or younger. Women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 02:45 PM
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The difference is that when a guy mistreats a girl in a relationship society tells him it is all his fault. When a girl mistreats a guy society tells him it's his fault as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 03:22 AM
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Why should we help save a society that demonizes, shames, and rejects us?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 01:40 AM
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That is an assumption without evidence or merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 01:35 AM
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Attraction to dark triad goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 09:44 PM
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That's the Atlas that I know and love ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 09:39 PM
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I never would have thought I would say this but, Atlas, you are dead wrong, you have no idea what you are taking about, STFU.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 09:20 PM
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75% of teachers and an increasing number of administrators at all levels are women. Females dominate both in numbers and philosophy. Having taught in the public schools and gone to Ed school I can tell you the school system is completely feminized and it is driving ever higher rates of alienation, behavioral problems, drop outs, and lower test scores among boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 07:59 PM
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The cost for a name change is typically $20 while a marriage license is anywhere from $10 to $115. If you live in a jurisdiction with very cheap marriage licenses and are so hard up for cash that you can't afford a Big Mac meal from McDonald's I will personally Venmo you the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 09:13 PM
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That is what makes them studs. The person you describe is just a thirsty beta with money to burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 09:08 PM
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I guess opinion is divided in the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 08:44 PM
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Fine go on TRP and disprove every anecdote and we will come up with new theories. Or collect your own anecdotes and formulate your own theories . Until then just stick to your "satire".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 08:01 PM
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Nothing is stopping you from changing your name. You could make your legal name Mr. Smaller D Than You if you wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 07:53 PM
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Third world women would rather live in poverty in a shit third world country with backwards alpha that beats them and doesn't let them leave the house rather than be touched by the clammy hands of a beta male in air conditioned comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 07:48 PM
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Yelp you will see is a actually a collection of individual reviews. Each person reports their experience as they see it. If a restaurant manages a 2-star average after hundreds of reviews you could say that all the customers are just haters that don't know what they like or you could just admit that there is a problem in the kitchen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 07:27 PM
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pla·ton·ic pləˈtänik/ adjective (of love or friendship) intimate and affectionate but not sexual. "their relationship is purely platonic"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 06:59 PM
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I asked if the COULD work which is what I clarified in my follow up. Could they?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 02:36 PM
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That only shows that existing gay conversion therapies don't work. If the mechanism was known couldn't it become possible for people to change their sexualities?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 02:23 PM
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If you don't know then what makes you think people can't change it themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 02:16 PM
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People get taller during puberty because hormones tell their body to grow. What mechanism causes people to change their sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 02:14 PM
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Why not, if you believe that sexuality can change then surely it must be possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 02:01 PM
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Do you believe gay conversion therapy works?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 01:55 PM
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So it is just a coincidence that you can only have the kind of emotional connections that cause a physical attraction with people you already find physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 01:54 PM
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Why not a family member? If an emotional connection can create physical attraction where none existed before why don't you become physically attracted to your parents or siblings?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 01:47 PM
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If sexual orientations can change then that word doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 01:46 PM
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Have you ever become sexually attracted to someone over 65 after developing an emotional connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 01:42 PM
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Just say you're bi/pansexual. You didn't change your sexual orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 01:38 PM
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wat
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 01:34 PM
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If you are heterosexual do you think you could become sexually attracted to someone of the same sex because you formed an emotional attachment to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 01:28 PM
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I assume these people were of your preferred gender, in your general age range, not morbidly obese, and not conventionally ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 01:13 PM
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This not /r/PurplePantsDebate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 01:01 PM
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A lack of emotional connection can prevent physical attraction in some subset of people but establishing an emotional connection will not create physical attraction. If that were true then why don't demis become sexually attracted to their parents or their siblings? Why don't they become physically attracted to the elderly and the infirm when they volunteer at the senior center? Why don't they engage in beastiality when they get emotionally attached to their dog?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 12:59 PM
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Sorry for the ninja edit but I don't believe in leprechauns, unicorns, or demisexuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 11:42 AM
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If you weren't physically attractive before establishing an emotional connection you are not going to magically become physically attractive after establishing an emotional connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 11:39 AM
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I don't think they are mutually exclusive. High sexual attraction is necessary. Whether you choose a strategy of high attractiveness and low commitment or a strategy of high attractiveness and high commitment is really up to your personal preferences and values. As long as you build on a base of solid attraction you will be okay. Problems arise when you start with emotional bonding and try to negotiate attraction after the fact. Unfortunately this is the direction that conventional advice sends …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 04:48 AM
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If you have no sexual attachment and no emotional attachment that is better than having emotional attachment without any sexual attachment. At least that way you are not investing any mental, emotional and physical resources in a relationship that isn't going anywhere. It's more accurate to say that the value of emotional attraction is predicated on first establishing physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 04:30 AM
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They will only bond with him on an emotional level but not a sexual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 04:19 AM
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Wow. Classifying people as alpha and beta is pretty dumb. Do you have any more in depth analysis for us?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 04:12 AM
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It is infinitely easier to come from a position of high sexual attraction and low emotional commitment and then allow that emotional commitment to develop than it is to come from a position of low sexual attraction and high emotional commitment and try to generate a high level of sexual attraction. (Holy run on sentence Batman)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 04:10 AM
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Atlas closing down another thread. Put a fork in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 03:54 AM
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As a side note, does anyone want to start a purple pill advice sub to handle these kind of questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 03:52 AM
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Agreed. They are responsible for not taking initiative to make themselves attractive to women. At the same time it makes me doubly mad that society at large conspires to convince them that if they just "be themselves" and dote on women they will earn love. We owe it to them, those forgotten men, to give them the hard truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 02:10 AM
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Screw those guys. How dare they hope for love and intimacy in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 01:43 AM
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Lol at "Willing to sleep with people" while glossing over which people. Hypergamy plus men being much more willing to engage in casual sex means women are all chasing the top 20% of men. It's just math.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 12:28 AM
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What's the burden of proof for a yelp review?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 10:29 PM
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Were you never in middle school? Sweet talk, affection, romance, dates, long walks on the beach and all that mushy garbage. Believe it or not, some people, especially lonely people, crave that kind of caring and attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 09:13 PM
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Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 09:10 PM
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You haven't established that they are fictitious. If they are accurate then I am in fact providing a great service to anyone who reads the review and thus avoids eating crappy food.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 09:09 PM
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Yes. There is a special circle of personal hell for men that are denied even platonic romance. May God have mercy on their souls.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 08:56 PM
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Incel = involuntary celibate Celibate = abstaining from marriage and sexual relations, typically for religious reasons. An incel is anyone who is unable to have sexual relations. How long you have to go without sex for it to go from a dry spell to celibacy is a fuzzy line. What you are thinking of is a kissless virgin which is a subset of incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 06:42 PM
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You wrongfully assume that studs put in more effort than the average dude to get laid. If anything they put in less effort. Guys with stratospheric N counts like college athletes put in virtually no effort. They probably spend more time getting rid of or avoiding girls they've fucked then they do attracting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 06:26 PM
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Not sure if it's the same exact study but this is by the same researcher: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19175758/ Fetal testosterone predicts sexually differentiated childhood behavior in boys and girls Simon Baron-Cohen is the eminent academic in this field. Read "The Essential Difference" for more info.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 04:55 PM
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That's what I get for wrestling with a pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 12:41 PM
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So what exactly are you contributing to this conversation? Other than condescension of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 12:04 PM
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Do you have a man, straw or otherwise, in this debate? Or do you have more pointless assertions? OP's claim was that women cheat. The only way to refute that is by proving that no woman ever cheats. You are conveniently using vagueness to assert an easier counterclaim "sometimes women don't cheat" because you don't have enough evidence to disprove the stronger claim. If there is a straw man here it is because you set it up yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 05:30 AM
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Try again. OP: Women cheat. You: Women don't cheat. I've never experienced that. Me (and many others in this thread): Yes, women cheat. We've experienced that. You: No you can't generalize, blah, blah blah.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 04:11 AM
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Could you possibly be a bit more vague? You accidentally left a few shreds of detail and context that might possibly maybe allow us to know what the hell you are ranting about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 03:33 AM
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50% of statistics are pulled out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 03:30 AM
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I think you are trying to make some kind of rhetorical point but it is falling flat. There is a difference between negating a universal negative and negating a generalization. If someone says no dogs have brown coats then I can disprove that by showing you a dog with a brown coat. If I say that most dogs have white coats then you can't disprove that by showing you a dog with a brown coat. You are trying to do the latter not the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 03:20 AM
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Yeah. I heard in a reddit comment that lesbians get divorced twice as often as gay men but not being a reddit comment I know very little about the subject. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 08:56 PM
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Writing a bad yelp review of the pizza place down the street robs them off the opportunity to form valuable commercial transactions. Does that make you a thief?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 08:31 PM
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"Harmful to women" in the sense that calling the cops about the meth lab next door is "harmful to your neighbor". Yes, exposing the truths of sexual strategy is disadvantagous to women but it in no way harms them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 08:29 PM
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Percentage of real asexuals (no sexual desire, do not masturbate, never had sex, never get aroused) in the general population is much less than 1%. Percentage of asexuals when it comes to proving a point on PPD is > 40%.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 08:23 PM
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Not being a tree a know very little about photosynthesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 08:05 PM
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That's as useless as a couple of white people standing around in a circle talking about how they never experienced racism therefore racism doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 08:03 PM
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The difference in brain scans is heavily documented. Behavioral differences (time spent looking at faces versus machines) has been shown in babies that are HOURS old. There is really no other remotely plausible explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 07:41 PM
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I know. It must be so confusing and difficult to understand as long as you are ideologically opposed to the idea that men and women's brains are biologically different and that the two sexes can therefore have different interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 06:38 PM
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Tl;dr
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 06:14 PM
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You can check out his work here or the original BBC survey on which it was based. They showed some of the data on the program Hjernevask. In Sweden at least there have been more women entering nursing and fewer entering engineering every year. In other words, as equality increases gender differences in employment also increases, to the point where the country with one of the highest levels of equality in the world has 90% female nurses and 90% male engineers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 06:03 PM
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Yes they want different things. Blue pill wants to virtue signal on the Internet. Red pill wants to get laid. When the two goals collide there can be no agreement or compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 05:11 PM
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It was a global study of over 100 counties. Causation vs correlation is not applicable here because we are disproving a causal theory i.e. rejecting the theory that patriarchy causes differences in STEM achievement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 05:09 PM
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Far more men in modern western societies are shamed for expressing their masculinity than for being too feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 12:24 PM
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Woooosh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 12:21 PM
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Good for you. Now the fact that you assumed that one would be shamed or insulted for expressing a shallow desire is proof that you know exactly why men and women lie about what they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 12:06 PM
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Way to avoid the point. How many of the ass men, when asked by a woman, what do you find attractive will cry out "DAT ASS!"? How many will feed her some line about hoe really a charming personality is what makes his dick spring to attention? Really it's a bullshit line to make him look less shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 11:45 AM
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He was clearly black pill = red pill + nihilism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 02:19 AM
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The same men who use cougar as a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 01:58 AM
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What percentage of men are mesmerized by a shapely pair of breasts? How many when asked, "What do you find attractive in a woman?" will respond "Nice tits!"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 01:57 AM
1

When did you stop beating your wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 01:24 AM
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Is there a particular reason that people don't think of you as a sexual being?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 01:18 AM
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One pair of speedos is as good as the next but I'm still only taking my pair home from the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 01:16 AM
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There is no such thing as a predatory woman. If a 30 year old female teacher has sex with a 12 year old student the boy is congratulated on his good fortune.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 12:50 AM
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Countries that have the most gender equality in society have the biggest disparities in STEM fields. The most patriarchal countries with least gender equality have near equality in STEM. FACT. When women are most free to choose they don't choose STEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 12:47 AM
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Lol at gender discrimination in STEM. If anything the discrimination is in favor of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 12:43 AM
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Because older men are already attractive. You don't need a special word to point it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 12:38 AM
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Stop it. Cougar is not an insult. If anything it is a compliment in that implies she is hot enough to catch a younger man. Synonymous with MILF.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 12:13 AM
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I don't play dota so I actually have time for a rich and fulfilling personal and professional life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 09:11 PM
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All theories are wrong. Some theories are useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 04:19 PM
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Your grasp of red pill theory is tenuous at best. The next time you start a sentence with "red pill says..." I'm going to need you to cite the trp side bar for such assertions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 04:05 PM
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1) I don't think you know what an introvert is. Introversion vs extroversion describes whether you are energized by social interactions. You can be likable, outgoing, and charismatic and still be introverted. In fact I think red pill is tuned more to introverted types. 2) Please cite from the /r/theredpill sidebar where it says that introverts don't have a chance because I think you pulled that out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 03:55 PM
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You are hand waving away the hardest part of meeting and attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 03:51 PM
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Any substance to that critique other than "trp is shit and will make your life shit"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 03:41 PM
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We don't live in a world of perfect information, perfect trust, or prefect security. I could be alone in a hotel room with a beautiful half naked woman and there would still be no chance that I would cheat on my girlfriend. But how would she feel about what I am doing? She's not a robot. Where did this idea come from that jealousy is some sort of unnatural aberration, a vice that should be weeded out? Our actions have symbolic value beyond their consequences. The things we do demonstrate the rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 02:30 PM
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My point exactly that such claims are either naive (they are putting up LMR and they don't realize what they are doing) or the claims are entirely self serving.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 02:18 PM
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I take it upon myself, as a man of honor and dignity, to separate myself from potentially sexually tempting situations or any situations that would hint at the appearance of sexual impropriety. That is the standard that I hold to myself and that is what I expect from my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 02:32 AM
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For me, interactions that are personal, physical, private, intimate, and chosen to be with someone physically attractive are inappropriate in the context of a monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 11:25 PM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 09:52 PM
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Many people get personal trainers for 1 on 1 sessions, not for the gym. In that case I think the two situations are equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 09:46 PM
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Yes. Personal trainers are dime a dozen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 09:43 PM
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Super attractive personal trainer from a couple days ago amongst others. It comes up in the comments of many other threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 08:38 PM
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On the different sex drives: only half kidding, men can't be raped. Harrass him, molest him, have your way with him. Unless, of course, it's a medical issue. You mentioned depression? That can hurt the sex drive and some meds make it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 06:08 PM
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If you actually meant "NO" then it wasn't LMR.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 05:43 PM
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Disagree. LMR happens plenty especially in "comfortable" couples in long term relationship. Think more like "I didn't shave my legs" or "what if the neighbors hear"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 05:41 PM
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ITT: an alternate universe where no woman has ever put up LMR but every man experiences it regularly o_0
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 05:38 PM
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LMR is more than just saying no. Do you ever say "I have to get up early" when your schedule is really not going to stop you from having sex? Do you ever say "but I haven't showered" when you are actually comfortable with having sex anyways? Do you ever say "but we just met" even though you are totally fine with sex on a first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 05:33 PM
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As a gotcha response to previous threads where red pill objecting to any sexualized but not technically cheating behavior is labeled as "possessive" and "insecure".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 05:21 PM
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How is a sex bot different than a fleshlight with legs?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 06:28 PM
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The two paragraphs you added actually sound 100% reasonable and good advice. If anything it makes the previous quote look like hyperbole taken out of context.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 06:23 PM
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That seems a bit extreme and contradicts what I have read elsewhere in red pill wives. I don't have a copy so without further context I really can't defend that. In any case the absurdity of one extreme position doesn't justify the opposite extreme (which has now become mainstream): a relationship based entirely on nagging, criticism, and a constant need for women to micromanage their partners behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 05:49 PM
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Please point out where that is in the book. Cite page and line number.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 03:18 PM
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Completely useless title. Can we get some moderation here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 07:52 PM
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I think the author is telling you not to be a back seat driver, not that you shouldn't navigate. In fact the whole "first mate" in the Capitan / First Mate dynamic requires you advise, support, inform etc which is different than being in control.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 07:49 PM
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That makes zero sense. Harvard is looking for someone with top grades and also has other great personal qualities. Hot girls want someone is super attractive and has other great provider qualities. A hot girl that is going to settle down is looking for Alpha Bucks. Beta men are not the equivalent of having high grades. Beta men have low attractiveness akin to having low grades. No matter their other qualities they are not going to get the attention of elite schools /hot women. You are saying tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 06:05 PM
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Hot women with low N count have their pick of alphas. They can be as choosy as they want. Why the hell would they want to marry young to a beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 05:22 PM
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That's like saying "Do you have low grades and have trouble getting in to a state school? Apply early admission to Harvard or don't go to college at all". Your advice effectively boils down to: don't get married ".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 05:20 PM
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Hot women don't have to put out easily in order to get the attention of alphas. A female 10 can afford to wait for some commitment before sleeping with Chad. It's the 5s that are going to throw themselves at Chad hoping to get a piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 05:15 PM
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Shitpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 04:43 PM
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There is a big difference between being a navigator and a back seat driver.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 04:28 PM
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I have my boundaries and what I consider appropriate behavior and I am not afraid to communicate those boundaries. Monogamy means more to me than just not touching your genitals to other peoples genitals. It means acting and speaking in a way that communicates respect to my partner. That is the standard I have for myself and that is the standard I expect in return. Your constant demeaning implication that it somehow makes me less of a man is frankly getting tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 09:19 AM
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You must live in a weird world where actions happen out of context, the appearance of impropriety doesn't matter, and nothing ever happens because of the implication. Tell me, if you see your SO walking down the street hand in hand with an attractive man, even if she has never had sex with him, will you feel violated? Will you have reason to distrust her? Why or why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 08:58 AM
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Deflect and ignore. If she is there to get trained and not fucked, why not get a female trainer? What if your girlfriend drove half way across town to get coffee every day from a starbucks that has a very very attractive barista when there are three other starbucks near by? Would that make you jealous? Would you be concerned? Sorry if you want to call having dignity and boundaries "pathetic jealousy". Maybe your sense of moral superiority will keep you warm on those lonely nights.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 08:36 AM
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I think she'd be more concerned that her SO stays healthy so he'll be around for years to come. Because she needs an extremely attractive male heterosexual trainer for health reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 08:06 AM
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I think you are highly misinformed about what a personal trainer even is. A physical trainer is mostly just a baby sitter and cheerleader. Would your significant other mind hiring a very attractive amateur masseuse to stop by during off hours? How about a stripper? You are not having sex so what is the problem? What if you wanted to hire a very attractive part time secretary that was only going to travel with you on business trips? What about if you hired a hottie to bathe you even if you were p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 07:27 AM
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And that is exactly how I feel. If she (completely unnecessarily) chooses to see some model personal trainer then she has already broken up / ended our monogamous relationship. That is not possessive, it's the agreement of the relationship. My ego is strong enough not to allow someone to use me or take advantage of me. My SO is great but she is not worth sacrificing my self respect. Someone who doesn't respect me is not someone I would want to be with, since I'm not worried about never finding a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 07:00 AM
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She is old enough to understand the consequences of her actions and can make up her own mind. Are you saying you would break up with your girlfriend if she chose to have sex with someone else? Is you ego so fragile that you would be possessive like that? Why so bitter and jealous? You should really just have more abundance mentality. I hear it is the secret to success in life. Edit: I'll send you snapchats so you can see what her tastes are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 06:42 AM
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Can I fuck your girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 06:28 AM
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Abundance mentality will tell a 5 that there are plenty of other 5s out there for him. But hypergamy is real. If a woman can choose between a 5 and a 10, she is going to choose the 10 every time and no amount of abundance mentality is going to change that. Improving everyone's ego will just make all the 5s into 7s But hang on to that abundance mentality though. It's going to come in handy when you go back to the dating scene after you find semen stains on your girlfriend's yoga pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 06:05 AM
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Do you really think Chad needs a bigger ego? It's all relative. If I am confident that makes me more secure and attractive. But if all men are more confident then they are all more secure and attractive. Abundance mentality in a zero sum game is about how well you are off compared to everyone else. If every man had a bigger ego we would be right back where we started.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 05:06 AM
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as long as your trainer is as hot as or hotter than your GF (not hotter than her trainer) there is a possibility of having sex. Maybe not likely but possible enough. I think we are just fundamentally going to disagree. Hot chicks do not have sex with their unattractive clients. Not sometimes. Not ever. If you don't agree that women can much much more easily "fuck up" the smv ladder than men, while men generally have to go down the ladder for casual sex then I don't think we have any basis for fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 04:54 AM
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I'm not even sure if you are being sarcastic. You do realize that the same ego that make men possessive, controlling, and jealous also makes them confident, assertive, and sexually aggressive? If all men had bigger egos then there would also be more for them to worry about from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 04:46 AM
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So why can't you hire a super attractive gardener or tax attorney then? Would that make her just as jealous? I think women won't date men that orbit other women because that makes the man unattractive. If he were fucking lots of other women the woman would be more attracted not less. So if you go through with your plan you will be less attractive to your woman who is now free to spend lots of intimate quality time with a very attractive dude. I don't think this plays out how you think it will.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 04:31 AM
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Not a theoretical question. I'm bi so this is an existential reality for me. I exclusively date women but am equally attracted to and have had sex with both. The reason I think is because it is the gendered expressions of womanhood, femininity you might call it, that I find attractive on an emotional or psychological level. The red pill doesn't recognize this usually, but there is a positive upside to every negative trait they ascribe to women. Hypergamy drives me to be a better man, to achieve …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 02:47 AM
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You are still not going to bang your trainer. She can easily. Completely different situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 02:41 AM
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The sexual market is efficient. If you could bang someone hotter than your girlfriend then you wouldn't be dating your girlfriend. The market for casual sex is also very lopsided: there is way more supply for men than there is for women. A female 5 can bang a male 10 if she is willing to put out without any strings or commitment. A male 5 will never bang a 10. The female trainer is with you because you are paying her money. You know that. Your girlfriend knows that. The trainer will never ever h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 01:48 AM
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Nobody takes personal trainers seriously. They are good looking adult babysitters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 01:06 AM
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I think it works a bit like drug tolerance. I used to chug cheap liquor store vodka straight from the bottle. If someone handed me a fruity mixed drink I would have to ask if it has alcohol in it because I couldn't even tell. Many years later my tastebuds have recovered somewhat but they will never be the same as they were before I started drinking. If I tried shooting 151 or everclear it might feel like it used to but really you can never go back.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 01:02 AM
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Female fertility plummets after 30. This is a biological fact and is not improved by diet, exercise, hair care, makeup, or plastic surgery. It's called a biological clock for a reason and women can hear it ticking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 12:48 AM
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If your trainer is hotter than your woman than the trainer will never have sex with you but a woman can easily have sex with a trainer that is much hotter than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 12:40 AM
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Honey, you know my diet is very important to me but I want to spend 2 hours a day three times a week at the candy store. Yes, I could just as easily spend the same time at the fruit stand but reasons.... How committed to her diet do you think she is?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 12:37 AM
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Low libido is not no libido. The OP is about NO sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 12:08 AM
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WTF is this whole having boundries = insecure. Why not let him put the tip in? It's not like he's going to jizz in her. Gosh! So insecure!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 12:06 AM
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Deep into blue pill la la land. Men and women are not the same. A woman with a hot male personal trainer is not the same as a man with a hot female personal trainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 12:01 AM
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It's not symmetrical. If she wants to bang her trainer she can do it at the drop of a hat but your personal trainer will not have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 11:58 PM
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Trainers are somewhere above ski instructors and below massueses in terms of professionalism. If every trainer that had sex with a client was banned from the profession there would be no personal trainers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 11:51 PM
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That's a straw man. I never said they were all gold diggers. Original comment was that women find one man and stick to him which is objectively false. And those that do that are primarily very conservative and religious, not blue pill types.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 11:47 PM
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You know we don't live in parallel universes, right? I live in a super liberal major city in a blue state in a modern westernized country. They're the same women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 11:26 PM
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I'm sure the personal trainer has a huge ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 11:18 PM
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Can we not do the thing where we generalize about an extreme minority while at the same time refusing to generalize about the overwhelming majority. The highest estimate I could find for asexuals is 1%. And those other 99%? Their relationships will not survive without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 11:17 PM
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I'm sorry. Do BP live in a country where women cherish their virginity, marry young, never get divorced and infidelity makes you a social pariah? Me neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 11:10 PM
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Hunger, thirst, sleepiness, and sexual desire are fundamental drives of biological survival. You might well hold your breath and hope that caring and intimacy will keep you from wanting to inhale.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 09:36 PM
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I think a restaurant could be even better without food because it's not based on something so fickle as hunger.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 09:21 PM
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Attractive women who are willing to do that in today's society are called unicorns for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 09:06 PM
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We discussed these stats like 6 months ago. When you break it down its upper middle class housewives that have the luxery of time because someone else is busting their ass to support them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 02:19 AM
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I find the sweet spot is under thirty seconds. Second best is before parting ways the first time. Last chance is before she gets comfortable with you as a friend. Each chance you miss makes it exponentially harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 01:54 AM
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Cognitive dissonance is scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 12:56 AM
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Let's see here: two people, in love, who were at some point attracted, compatible, respect each other, friends, and seriously committed but wouldn't even fuck to save the human race. What's the blue pill advice? Be nicer, talk about your feelings, do choreplay, build comfort, talk about your feelings some more, provide more commitment, see a shrink. Success rate? Close to zero. On this sub it is a fairly common complaint that BP has no helpful dating advice. The real test would be to help marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 09:58 PM
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I lurked on /r/deadbedroom for three years and I can tell you that the counseling model is a complete and utter failure. By the time I gave up on that sub and my own dead bedroom relationship experienced members were straight up telling new posters that if the problem isn't medical and it's been going on for a year you might as well give up. No amount of taking about your feelings is going to rekindle that fire. And yet, despite a complete disillusionment with the conventional approach, any talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 08:43 PM
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You trust your pharmacist or your banker but you don't go around letting them stick your dick in your ass. If you are already not highly attracted to your partner you are not going to enjoy "degrading" sex acts. And the more attracted you are the more willing you are to accept them, in fact the more enjoyable they will be. It is like figuring out what a rocket scientist did to get a job at NASA. Being nice to the interview panel is important (trust) but the PhD in astrophysics (attraction) is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 12:00 AM
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Yes. On dozens of occasions I have found that "degrading" sex acts are greeted with moans of pleasure when asserted or demanded and greeted with disgust or offense when pleaded or asked for. It is the asking that is offensive and the taking without asking that is arousing, not necessarily the act itself. I hear the same from my friends often enough that it is not an anecdote, it's a cliche.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 09:49 AM
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Vulnerability is only attractive when it comes from a position of strength. Meaningless by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 03:55 AM
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Life tip: not everyone is a special snowflake. Generalizations are useful. If I've dealt with dozens and they act that way, and I talk to my friends and they have dealt with dozens each and they all act that way then I take the hint.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 03:42 AM
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Don't shoot the messenger. I believe it because it's true. Whether or not you find that distasteful is your issue, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 01:48 AM
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Yes, the true nature of female desire can be nauseating, revolting even, if you are still stuck in mainstream notions of sexual morality. But to the initiated there is a certain ruthless natural beauty to it, the elegance of a great white shark gliding through clear water.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 01:28 AM
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Schrodinger's jizz. She will only like it if you do it without discussion. If you discuss it with her it loses its dominance aspect and it no longer becomes pleasurable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 01:14 AM
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That assumes that people know what turns them on and why and are willing and motivated to share that information if they did know. This is a terrible assumption in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 12:09 AM
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Trust is important only in the context of very high levels of attraction and compliance. In most of the situations where this becomes an issue, the woman enthusiastically performed these acts with one night stands, in casual relationships, or with abusive partners but not with a commited partner. This blows a huge hole in the trust theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 11:24 PM
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Then turn high powered career woman You don't just "turn" high powered career woman. That takes years of hard work. If you spend your 20s in med school or grinding 12 hour days at a major law firm you don't have time to take advantage of the mooching. It's one strategy or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 01:31 AM
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Yet the categories and systems work so on what basis do you claim them to be false? In calling the stereotypes harmful you are ignoring that they are beneficial to the person using them in that it improves the chances of having a happy relationship. And by what measure are the targets of the stereotypes harmed? They avoid being in a relationship with a red piller which you would think is a more of a prize than a punishment. And what happened to sexual self determination? People should be able to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 12:12 AM
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Masculine = attractive is blasphemy in mainstream relationship advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 12:02 AM
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Read the sidebar. If you find an example from there I will gladly debate it with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 09:32 PM
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AWALT doesn't say that women have emotional breakdowns every time. I think you are confusing the red pill with 1950s shoe polish ads.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 08:46 PM
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What do you mean? Like if you started walking on your hands instead of feet? Like if you started talking out off your ears and listening from your mouth? Yes. He should send you back to the factory (hopefully under warranty).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 07:06 PM
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You hate that they categorize, generalize, and systematize social interactions for the purpose of achieving sexual success. That is the only way they know how to interact with the world. Why don't you just admit that you hate the idea of autists getting laid you ableist shitlord.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 06:51 PM
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A attractive man who established his attractiveness over time can do something unattractive and still be attractive overall. It's not like you eat a cookie and instantaneously become fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 06:46 PM
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You shit. You do. I don't know what the second part has to do with AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 06:40 PM
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The trouble happens when she throws waay too many shit tests and it erodes rapport. Then the cost/benefit of interacting with her gets lopsided and most men nope out at one point or another. That's where polarization comes in. Depending on how she responds, you can tell whether its worth enduring a couple shit tests to win her over, or if she's messing with you for an ego trip. I know negging has gotten a bad rap, but I think there is a time and a place for it and this is one of them. You pass t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 06:38 PM
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1) I assure you, you have no self awareness of when you are shit testing. 2) Yes. A woman who goes 6 weeks without shit testing is after something, and not something good. I would urge him to proceed with extreme caution.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 05:53 PM
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Mature adults shit test too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 05:14 PM
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All Women Are Like That
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 04:49 PM
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No. He will be happier when he realizes that you already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 04:25 PM
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So what you hate is "the concept that videogame-ifying their life and depersonalizing those around them will bring them le vaginé." What is so hateful about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 03:32 PM
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BP is also against RP that are socially adroit and pleasant. You won't find TBP reposting some post by /u/Pembayliss saying "here is a a not socially awkward post presented in a polite way. How lovely." There is something substantive to the opposition here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 02:59 AM
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People parody neckbeards because of their socially awkward behavior. Tumblerinaction parodies tumblr because of their noxious attitude in enforcing political correctness. Why does BP parody RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 02:37 AM
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Too bad for him I guess. Comes with the territory. But the better he does the happier he will be in his relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 02:05 AM
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Lots of subs have "an inflated sense of self worth, an amusing hivemind fueled by anger and entitlement, and general dumbfuckery seen in many choice posts". Almost all of them, in fact. Why always TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 02:03 AM
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Because gender doesn't relate to behavior for us. Unfortunately, science disagrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 01:05 AM
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I mean, in my humble pill popping ass' opinion TBP isn't really concerned with possibility or...anything really. TBP exists to counter TRP and is mainly a site to joke about/parody redpillers. You contradict yourself in one sentence. If BP doesn't care about anything why do they care about making fun of RP instead of making fun of ugly cars, cosplayers, or dudes with tiny hands? There is something about RP that gets under BP skin, something specific and unique to RP that bothers BPs in general. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 12:53 AM
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Whose we, kemosabe? Many if not most blue pillers are either indifferent or hostile to the interests of sexually frustrated men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 12:46 AM
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Understanding probability and statistics is pretty easy if you can make up any numbers you want. Most of the stuff we talk about in this sub have little to no hard facts backing them up and we are all guilty of making shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 12:43 AM
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If he can predict what you are going to do based on AWALT then he doesn't care about what you are thinking. Not having to worry about what the hamster is up to is a huge relief for many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 12:37 AM
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/u/BenGunnSilver is that you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 10:24 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 08:49 AM
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And that is why AWALT is useful heuristic. Behavior is shallow but instinct runs deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 08:33 AM
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Poly with a cuck fetish twist. In this one the husband is also the bull.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 05:24 PM
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Would you rather marry a man who was used to having harems in the past or one that voluntarily chose monogamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 05:20 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 09:05 AM
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FYI, some states forbid limiting alimony in a prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 10:46 PM
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I'm pretty sure if he gets fewer electoral votes he loses the election no matter how big of a rage boner his supported get. I will admit he is the first candidate that I have witnessed in my lifetime where the possibility of subverting the electoral process with violence or intimidation is an actual concern, so I will give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 03:26 AM
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It's a way of having your cake and eating it too. You get to have also sorts of emotionally cathartic but unreasoned venting. Then when you get called in it you can label it hyperbole and retreat back to a more reasonable stance without having learned anything. It's terribly unproductive and reinforced by /r/trp being an echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 08:55 PM
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Lol. You can make it to the top if you start out at the top and don't fuck it up too bad. All the talent and hard work of George W. without any of the moderation, charisma, or compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 05:07 PM
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You're gay. Try having sex with a dude.
/r/askTRP05/05/16 10:25 AM
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pseudo-intellectual anti-intellectual, like an good totalitarian movement
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 09:56 AM
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The fact that the whole premise of his campaign is based on winning is also a weakness. Right now he is polling 13 points behind Hillary. If he stays behind for long or takes any serious hits to his image his "supporters" will abandon him in droves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 09:55 AM
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he is the American Dream given form essentially. Inherit a massive fortune and spend it frivolously stroking your planetary-sized ego?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 09:50 AM
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mark märk noun noun: mark; plural noun: marks US informal a person who is easily deceived or taken advantage of. "they figure I'm an easy mark"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 09:47 AM
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That's not how I read OP. What I interpreted it as you are standing around a D&D convention being a very average guy surrounded by neckbeards. A girl that sees you will think you are a 10 just because you are surrounded by 2s. No. She saw Brad Pitt on TV last night so she knows what a 10 is. She saw a couple 8s at the gym that morning. If you are a 5 at the D&D convention you are a 5 at the gym. Adult humans have object permanence and can hold the image of something in their mind for more than 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 05:43 AM
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Yeah, "what is actually around you" extends beyond what is literally within your line of sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 04:11 AM
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If you have a problem forming it or not forming categories all of those, include all language thought and reason, become impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:28 AM
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Do bananas have wings? Does the color purple vote in midterm elections? Do you know what a non sequitur is? The answer to all of these is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:27 AM
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Yes. Categorical Perception, Ontology, Pattern Recognition, Taxonomy, and Semantics are just a waste of time. Why bother labeling anything at all? Frankly, I think this whole language thing is overrated and generally considered a step backward for the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 01:46 AM
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You must have missed the decades long shitstorm about unrealistic body images in the media. Also, I find it hard to believe that people develop sudden amnesia when they walk from the gym to the library like they are no longer capable of comparing things they have seen minutes earlier. When it comes to sex were all just Dory from Finding Nemo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 01:42 AM
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It's a globalized world with mass media, social networks, and dating apps. Unless you live under a rock, you have a very good idea of what your options are. Everyone is getting compared to everyone all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 12:23 AM
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Still RP opponents insist that any hyperbolic RP statements should be taken literally and are representative of RP as a whole. Meanwhile RP proponents want to dismiss any clearly wrong statements as "hyperbolic" and therefore can be ignored as not representative of RP as a whole. It's one big game of "No True Scotsman" played out over and over without resolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 12:18 AM
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All politics is about power. What is there to discuss?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 11:43 PM
3

If a girl likes getting peed on she wants to get peed on by a tall muscular guy with symmetrical facial features.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 11:41 PM
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Donald Trump is a narcissistic sociopath. Half of /r/The_Donald are trolls and the other half are marks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 11:37 PM
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Eating disorders and obesity are both caused by having an unhealthy relationship with food. The average westerner perceives a clinically unhealthy body composition as normal. Validating that belief does not do anyone any favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 06:00 PM
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No. There's way too many fatties out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 04:43 PM
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Don't ask me. I was paraphrasing Mr. Sweaty over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 03:06 AM
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If you have a problem with custody laws, work to change them. Apparently, that would make me less of a man. You need women to sign up for a draft? Why? And yeah, I think worrying about that does Maske you less of a man. Yeah, we're done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 12:51 AM
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Possibly. That would be more of a concubine than a plate. For me one of the defining features of a plate is that I don't care what she is up to when I'm not around. If I cared that would be one more thing on my mind and the whole arrangement would lose some of its appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 12:46 AM
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Legal equality. Like the legal equality in being required to sign up for the draft? Like the legal equality if having equal custody over children? How does fighting for those make you less of a man. You are the one equating gender roles and legal equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 12:42 AM
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Discrimination based upon the fact that someone is a man is what the equality struggle is all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 12:41 AM
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So it's okay to treat women differently but only when it benefits them? That's not too complicated. It's just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 12:15 AM
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Okay. So you are saying that fighting for sexual is not masculine. What does that change?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 12:13 AM
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Not at all. It's a tautology. If I cared that she is sleeping with other guys then she is not a plate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 12:10 AM
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Toxic masculinity is any aspect or expression of masculinity that isn't directly beneficial to women or children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 12:05 AM
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This has nothing to do with women or femininity or equality. You are the one who equated fighting for gender equality for men with a failure of masculinity. If they have nothing to do with each other why did you bring it up, other than as a cheap ad hominem attack?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 12:00 AM
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So anything other than 100% equality is subjugation of women. But men and women are not 100% equal because masculinity. But acting on that fact is not masculine. That logic is chasing it's trail pretty badly. It's the same old story: men and women are equal, except when they're not. In those cases men should suck it up and take one for the benefit of women. Are cakes for eating or for having? Make up your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 11:54 PM
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Then don't conveniently forget this discussion in 2 picoseconds when we talk about whether a woman should defer to her man in a relationship or why there are disproportionately more men in upper levels of management. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 10:08 PM
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First google image result It's the assholes who are claiming that gender equality for men = sexism. It does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 10:05 PM
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I don't think trp promotes treating high smv women well despite their behavior. If anything they tell men to do the exact opposite. RP instructs men on specific ways to avoid coddling highly attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 10:01 PM
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So why shouldn't my actions be treated equally as a woman's? Why would the same exact actions be good enough for a woman but because I have a penis dangling between my legs I have to "man up" and hold myself to a higher standard of behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 09:53 PM
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I don't see the connection. Why should having SMV be physical have anything to do with being coddled?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 09:43 PM
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Trp: anything political, anything that suggests a nuance to human behavior, anything promoting the value of long term relationships or children, anything that puts values, ethics, or self respect over getting laid Tbp: anything. Can't make the trigglypuff happy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 09:14 PM
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You feel bad but not enough to do anything about it. Better they suffer than upset your ideological apple cart.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 08:50 PM
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Yeah! Tell him to "man up"! That'll end sexism! If you want to call yourself a man why don't you start by injecting some integrity into your debating tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 08:43 PM
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It's funny I wasn't talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 08:37 PM
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Do feminist not demand that women be treated as 100% equal to men? Did I miss something?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 08:36 PM
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I'm consistent. I promote traditional masculinity and I expect that of myself and other men. It's the height of hypocrisy for feminists to vilify masculinity at every turn and then suddenly demand it the second it becomes politically expedient.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 08:33 PM
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EVERYBODY LOOK AT ME! I HAVE THE REAL PROBLEMS!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 04:33 PM
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RP focuses on the differences, refuses to give women respect. Nobody gets respect. Respect is earned. That is how men treat other men. When a man treats a woman like he would a man it is called misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 04:32 PM
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Thus proving OPs point. Men who fight for gender equality will never be respected therefore don't bother. I think it's hilarious that femenists have campaigned for years to end the use of gendered phrases like "man up" but when the talk comes to men's rights and men's issues telling men to "man up" is the first and last move in the play book.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 04:29 PM
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You are just talking to yourself now. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 09:16 PM
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Repeating the same argument doesn't make it any less incorrect. I take it back. That's not even an argument. It's a bald statement of opinion with no basis or justification. Just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 09:03 PM
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Attributing an argument to me that I never made is called a strawman and also doesn't make your argument any any less incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 08:31 PM
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Repeating the same argument doesn't make it any less incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 06:11 PM
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Repeating the same argument doesn't make it any less incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 05:52 PM
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I said: "Man's attractiveness is only validated when a woman has sex with him" You said: "Man's attractiveness is only validated when a woman has casual sex with him." Changing the argument is not a counterargument.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 12:18 AM
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You tried to sneakily add "casual" to my statement. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 11:12 PM
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Working out, cutting fat, and adding muscle especially around the neck and shoulders can definitely result in "face gains". It's not going to fix asymmetry but it can help a lot. Things like a flattering hair cut, the right facial hair, and dental work can also make a face much more appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 10:19 PM
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Sorry, words have meanings and you can't just pull shit out of your ass: market value 1.The highest estimated price that a buyer would pay and a seller would accept for an item in an open and competitive market. In a sexual market price that a buyer is willing to pay is the attractiveness of the pussy that lands on his dick. That is the one and only measure or sexual market value. The measure of a man's smv is the sum of is his physical looks, with height, facial aesthetics, the perfection and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 09:57 PM
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So then you agree that a measure of a man's SMV is the quality of women that will sleep with him. All that other stuff about height and hair and dongs is just your assumptions. If a guy looks like a troll but he is banging the hottest chicks then he has high SMV regardless of what your opinion of him is. Likewise if a guy looks like Adonis but can't even spear a land whale he has low SMV, even if you jerk off to him in your homoerotic fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 07:03 PM
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The unit of measure of smv for men is height, facial aesthetics, muscles, perfect hairline, teeth etc. No no no no no. The M in SMV stands for Market. If you know anything about economics you know that market value is determined by the value of exchange. The market value of a car is not determined by the horsepower, size, features, etc. It's determined by how much money someone is willing to exchange for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 06:33 PM
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Market value is measured by what it is exchanged for. You are mixing your percentiles. If a 30th percentile woman can bang a 70th percentile man then her SMV is 70th percentile man (7M for short). Her attractiveness is still 3F though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 04:55 AM
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Fire is the relationship. Spark is attraction and fuel is commitment. Learning more and more commitment without spark is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 03:39 AM
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Starting a fire requires a fuel and a spark. Telling someone thar has fuel but no source of spark that he just needs to focus on getting more fuel is useless at best. When you actively tell him that sparks are useless and misogynistic and you should just have spark naturally is just straight up sabotage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 02:06 AM
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No. The less attractive you are the less desireable you are on the dating market and below a certain threshold you have no options at all. The more attractive you are the more and better options you have and the more leverage you have in your relationships. Commitment traits help you maintain and grow a relationship but if you are not attractive enough to start the relationship that you want then improving commitment won't help at all. Humor, charisma, confidence, status, etc are attractiveness …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 01:19 AM
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Percentiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 01:06 AM
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Reread what you just wrote and think about it for one second. If a man is not sexually attractive then how does improving his commitment value help?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 01:05 AM
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If you are sexually unattractive no amount of being dependable will make you attractive. The overlap that you claim is is minimal to nonexistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 11:47 PM
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Women do not want to have sexual relationships with men they do not find sexually attractive. Prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 11:42 PM
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Looks can be ranked on a percentile scale: 1 is bottom 10%, 5 is 50%. SMV is not relative though. It is a single market clearing value and is therefore not relative but absolute. For example the market value of a banana or a shoe is the dollar value that the banana or shoe is exchanged for. So what is the unit of measure of SMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 11:40 PM
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300 lbs and facially disfigured is okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:53 PM
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Women do not want to date men they are not sexually attracted to. Strategies that pursue commitment do not increase sexual attractiveness. Thus unattractive men who follow such advice will succeed neither in getting relationships not in having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:48 PM
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What's the unit of measure of SMV? His SMV is 3 whats?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:43 PM
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Not if the distribution of attractiveness is a normal bell curve but the distribution of sex is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 02:40 PM
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Proselytizing ideologies tend to do best with people who are desperate and without social support. The young incel male in the western world is a prime target because no one else gives a fuck about their plight.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 11:15 PM
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Pay attention to meeeeeeee!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 05:36 PM
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Too many chiefs, not enough braves. The world needs betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 05:33 PM
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Me too. Brilliant comedy. Almost as good as Office Space.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 04:51 AM
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I'm just talking about the US, here. In this country alone whites are already the minority of the technological elite. There are more brown faced, slanty eyed, and otherwise funny looking people creating your futuristic utopia. We read Adam Smith and Ayn Rand too. We will know how to retain owniship of the future world that we build. Thanks, white people, for getting us this far. We'll take it from here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 03:47 AM
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I'm not white and I care just as much about the passing of the liberal order than you do. Believe it or not, there is no melanin check before you can read the Federalist Papers. Guess what ethnicity the leftist parasites that you complain about are: mostly white. Kurdish women fighting in Syria give a fuck about freedom and are willing to sacrafice everything for it. Have you ever met a western white woman that would give up her morning latte to go vote? It's the Chinese that don't give a fuck a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 02:36 AM
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To paraphrase Chris Rock: "Why you say that? It's not women, it's the media. It's the media. It's the way they represent us!" "When it's 3am and Chad Thundercock is getting his dick sucked in the night club bathroom, who has their lips wrapped around his pole? It's not Dan Rather. It's a woman!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 12:54 AM
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If the alt right is tied to the future of white males then both are a dead end.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 11:48 PM
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You love to go on and on about how white people created most of the world's cultural, scientific, and political advances and you at the same time ignore that virtually all of those happened under the auspices of a liberal democratic governments. Where are the great racist authoritarian regimes? Snuffed out by the superior forces of democracy. Kind of sad that an ideology that worships power and jerks off to military might can't hold up to a disorganized gaggle of pussy whipped hippies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 11:37 PM
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Putin does very much bother with pretensions of democracy, that's how he stays in power. I like how Western right-wingers imagine him as a bold, audacious leader when in reality he's the biggest panderer in Russia. He's a self-proclaimed liberal, too. You're problem is that you imagine that fascism / authoritarianism cares about left / right distinctions. Fascism is about the worship of power, plain and simple. If you think Trump won't throw you and your right wing pet project (including the wal…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 11:27 PM
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As usual everything is about you. Make sure to stretch your rotator cuff because today's politics shows me that you are going to be doing a lot of patting yourself on the back.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 11:07 PM
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You premised your entire OP on your personal experience. If you want to make a point that we can all discuss then base it on hypotheticals or on examples of well known public figures, or examples from history or literature. Basing it on something entirely private is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 08:20 PM
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That's a cop out. If you are not willing to post enough details for there to be a meaningful discussion, don't post at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 05:19 PM
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Nobody cares about what you do nearly as much as you think they do. Nobody cares if you pick a career that does or does not follow your gender. You can succeed or fail based on your own merits. Just don't come screaming "patriarchy" and "discrimination" when things don't turn out how you expected. Remember, the countries that have the highest level of gender equality, like Norway, also have the highest gender differences by occupation (90% nurses are female, 90% of engineers are male).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 01:35 AM
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That comment is at -5 karma right now. Even terpers disagree with it. You are going to need to find a new straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 08:40 PM
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Getting what you want is not the same as happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:49 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paradox_of_Choice
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:38 PM
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Because you care too much.
/r/askTRP22/04/16 09:49 AM
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1) man wants to care for love and bond with child -> gonna need some genetic proof for that 2) woman wants man to be open check book for child that he has no contact with, against his will and enforced by the state -> sure, let's just take her word for it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 05:10 PM
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And if he doesn't want to just be an open checkbook to his alleged child does he have to act like one of those?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 04:01 PM
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If you want financial support you better prove that he is actually the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 02:58 PM
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Why is that relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 04:51 AM
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RED PILL IS NOT FOR YOU! Questioningwoman I have had to remind you if this on numerous occasions. The red pill is to benefit men and nobody else. It's not advice for you. Nobody is trying to convince you if anything. If you want advice for women go to /r/redpillwives .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 04:02 AM
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There's no one on the planet trustworthy enough to not make dumb choices. Including you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 02:14 AM
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Do your part and help out, for the sake of the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 01:51 AM
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Yeah. Women really shouldn't do that. Just because a sociopath makes her wet, doesn't mean that she loses her obligation to not support immoral behavior. I agree. We should shame women that choose to encourage and propagate this terrible behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 01:32 AM
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Because chicks dig it. When women stop dropping their panties for sociopaths the red pill will stop glorifying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 01:16 AM
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I have no alpha looks. Weak jawline, narrow shoulders and I'm short. I have no right to get the attention I get based on my looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 07:08 AM
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Danny devito gets laid like tile. Women DO find funny and bold men attractive, especially in a cold approach. Confidence is sexy. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 06:03 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 04:46 PM
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expensive Walgreens sells tests, with lab fee for $111. And that's retail. Unnecessary. That depends on your perspective. To the father it's extremely necessary. politically infeasible Other than raging misandry, what's the political barrier? unconstitutional Which amendment does this violate? terrible idea Other than faithless women, who does this hurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 04:33 PM
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"This doesn't help men" says the woman, while all the men in this thread are clamoring for it and calling it a god send. Please explain more about how you know what's best for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 04:26 PM
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I do it several times a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 01:29 AM
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The confidant approach IS the value. Vast majority of guys don't have the balls to do it and if you can make the attempt in a fun and graceful way you have already demonstrated something special about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 01:27 AM
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Lol at approaching = walking up to someone and asking for their number
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 01:24 AM
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Self-improvement is predicated on the idea of change: I will change my life, I will change my person. However, there is no such thing as change, because time is an illusion; a product of the structure of our consciousness, which could not exist without temporal movement. This is objectively false. Time it's real, measurable, quantifiable and understandable. It is the inexorable motion from low entropy states to higher entropy ones. Change is a constant. It is unstoppable and undeniable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 11:48 PM
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And hormones have very real and very significant affect on behavior and state of mind. Are you calling in to question the entire field of clinical psychiatry? Do you think if I pumped enough epinephrine or lithium or mdma in to your bloodstream it wouldn't effect you because of your "state of mind"? Not only that, hormones affect our behaviors which then affect our hormones. We experience something that jacks up our oxytocin levels which gives us this amazing feeling of warmth and connection tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 11:06 PM
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Oxytocin and vassopressin don't real. /s Sex creates a biochemically based emotional attachment whether one intends for it to happen or not. The more intense the experience the stronger the connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 08:20 PM
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Does dark triad = alpha? There is a difference between being a bully without a conscience and being a true alpha although for seduction purposes the differences are probably academic. Most people can't tell the difference sociopathic narcissism and earned self confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:30 PM
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His dad knew...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 12:41 AM
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That only makes it sound worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 09:52 PM
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Don't be boring. Overcompensate with exciting hobbies or something.
/r/askTRP05/04/16 03:12 PM
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That's exactly what it sounds like. AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 02:12 PM
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From what you wrote in your post, yes, he was.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:08 AM
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That's why statutory rape laws exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 05:45 AM
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I mean practice more by having more sex. How old are you and how much experience do you have?
/r/askTRP03/04/16 06:00 PM
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Seriously, no fap. You will bust early a few times but you'll get used to it. Unless you have a medical problem or something, if you can't get hard for your girlfriend you are definitely jacking off too much.
/r/askTRP03/04/16 04:05 PM
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Her
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 12:01 AM
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Yes. It's like saying you like shopping or eating out as hobbies. Travel for most people is just another form of conspicuous consumption. Drive an RV across Canada or volunteered in Mongolia is good. Shopping in Milan or tropical resorts, not so much. On the flip side, someone who hasn't traveled at all is probably a no go. Not adventurous or open minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 07:56 PM
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Well really it should be the availability of sex. So a 10/10 college quarterback that is very religious and is saving himself for marriage has tons of sex available to him even if he chooses not to partake. But it is hard to measure how much sex a man could be having. For most guys, the amount of sex they are actually having is a good measure of how much sex is available to him. The number of sexual encounters is just the number of times he is getting laid, regardless of who it is with. Number o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 11:58 PM
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Number of partners != number of sexual encounters
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 11:33 PM
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What's the equivalency?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 05:57 PM
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Men aren't the ones facing the consequences. When a man whores it up it's his long term partner that suffers from the infidelity. What we should learn from this post is that women should avoid dating man whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 12:35 AM
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Thank you for your irrelevant anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 12:30 AM
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Nope. The science says "men with more partners are more likely to cheat". This comment says "women know this and sleep with them anyways".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 12:26 AM
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Temporary alimony is run on a program ("the dissomaster"). Long term alimony is a free for all and judges can basically do whatever they want.
/r/askTRP16/03/16 07:36 PM
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My only experience is with California: Courts have also stated that any waiver of alimony will generally be enforced only between spouses of fairly equal education and intelligence, who were both self-sufficient in property and earning ability at the time of the agreement. [source] Basically you can only waive alimony if she wouldn't have qualified for alimony anyways.
/r/askTRP16/03/16 05:23 PM
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100% legally spot on. The problem is this part: Also, don't try to be cute and put provisions regarding children into the prenup, such as custody, child support, etc. It will never be enforceable, and you're wasting your time. People think they can use prenups to contract away the really most important parts like alimony, child support and custody. In fact, those are completely unaffected by prenups. Unless you have significant assets before getting married, a prenup is meaningless for most peop…
/r/askTRP16/03/16 05:05 PM
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You crave love because you are a human being.
/r/askTRP16/03/16 07:00 AM
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One, because you interpret disagreement as hostility in the first place And two, because sometimes people you hate or people who hate you are right, regardless of your feelings or their level of animosity. The idea that the bad guys (them) are always wrong and the good guys (us) are always right blinds us from important perspectives and makes it too easy to dismiss inconvenient facts. Therefore it prevents you from understanding complex or controversial subject matter or making nuanced ethical j…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 05:22 PM
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She is free to and I am free to make fun of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 04:15 PM
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No they are offended by your absurd combination of ignorance, arrogance, and self righteousness. Not once since you started posting here have I ever seen you question society or anything else for that matter. You come here to have your preexisting beliefs reaffirmed and any time you encounter contrary arguments or evidence you close your eyes, plug your ears, and pat yourself on the back for a job well done. This indicates the emotional maturity of a girl, not a woman. Username most certainly do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 04:14 PM
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but at least stop trying to shame people just because you don't find them good-looking. Try and stop me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 04:07 PM
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You don't know what an ad hominem is. If you did, you could quote exactly where I used it. Also, I am an "ignorant-reply-sexual" so every one of your responses is making me more and more aroused.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 02:47 PM
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I'm shaming her for being ugly and sexual in public. I've been quite open about that from the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 02:43 PM
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It's free country. She is free to wear a leotard and I am free to call her gross. Still not age shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 02:12 PM
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My anger has nothing to do with you. I just like taking it out on your ignorant ideas because it's an easy target. Franky, I don't care what you consider yourself. You can call yourself a jelly-donut-sexual but that doesn't make it real.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 02:10 PM
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Show me one academic or clinical psychologist who believes that sapiosexuality is a thing. Maybe you should do some research before repeating what you heard from a 13 year old with a weblog.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 01:54 PM
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Did you just skip the part where Helen Mirren is 6 years older and super hot and should win an award for that bikini bod? In fact, did you skip my whole reply? Let's review: (Helen Mirren) Old + Hot + Sexual = Awesome (Ballet Instructor) Old + Ugly + Not sexual = Great (Madonna) Old + Ugly + Sexual = Gross (Landwhale in a bikini) young + Ugly + Sexual = Gross Remind me, what does this have to do with age again?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 01:50 PM
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Madonna LOOKS too old to wear a leotard. It doesn't help that her public persona is built around her sexuality so the idea of her prancing about trying to be sexy while looking old and gross SHOULD be shamed. Nobody wants to see that. An old ballet instructor in a leotard on the other hand would not be shamed in the same way because she is wearing it for functional reasons and not seductive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 01:32 PM
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Someone whose uniqueness is a core part of their identity, to the point where they need to make stuff up in order to be different than everyone else. In elementary school we tell children that they are all unique "like a snowflake" so they can form a unique identity as they grow up. Anyone who clings to this into adulthood is developmentally retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 01:24 PM
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It's not age shaming. Helen Mirren, 63 is hot as hell in a bikini. Madonna looks like shit and no one wants to see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 01:18 PM
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It's a made up word for special snowflakes to turn their dating preferences into a sexuality. It doesn't exist anymore then "red-head-sexual" or "went-to-my-college-sexual"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 01:14 PM
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Have you heard of sapiosexual people? Tumblr-kin identified.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 01:06 PM
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Just because they know it doesn't mean they are willing or capable of describing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 12:40 PM
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I find that the more money I make the younger and more attractive women become available. Magic!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 12:34 PM
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Skin wrinkles and sags with age and time had not been kind. She is a 57 year old with the neck of a 77 year old. Yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 12:32 PM
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No one wants to see someone undesirable in leotards. I don't want to see a fat lady in a bikini either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 12:22 PM
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Uteruses age the same regardless of how much botox you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 12:20 PM
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He inherited 500 million. If he had never worked a day in his life he would have more money than he does now. Even that is less than it appears because half it is the value of the "Trump" brand, a number he pulls out of his ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 11:24 PM
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Trump IS a fat slob who acts like a 12 year old on 4chan. But he inherited a bunch of money so he can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 08:31 PM
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Don't waste time. Just do it.
/r/askTRP07/03/16 04:40 AM
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When you can go back in this comment thread and quote word for word where I said "that poly people either a) can't love or b) are plagued by jealousy" then I will engage in your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 12:51 AM
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When you can go back in this comment thread and quote word for word where I said "that poly people either a) can't love or b) are plagued by jealousy" then I will engage in your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 11:55 PM
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According to Mirriam Websters a strawman is "a weak or imaginary argument or opponent that is set up to be easily defeated". You are arguing against an imaginary opponent. When you can go back in this comment thread and quote word for word where I said "that poly people either a) can't love or b) are plagued by jealousy" then I will engage in your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 08:16 PM
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Why have you been so invested in "proving" that poly people either a) can't love or b) are plagued by jealousy? I'm never mentioned and dont believe either of those things, but keep putting up those strawman. It wont change reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 05:49 PM
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I know of a microbiology phd that believe in young earth creationism. Just because you know science doesn't mean you believe it. No one is trying to control your sex life. Do whatever the hell you want. If you want to deny scientific reality because it doesn't reinforce your narrative then you are free to do that too. I'm out of fucks to give here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 04:19 PM
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You don't believe in science so there is nothing I can do except laugh. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 03:11 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 03:07 PM
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Just no. Pair bonding is a chemical process. It's a physical event that happens at the molecular level. It doesn't care about your labels.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 02:43 PM
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They work for women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 06:55 AM
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You are discussing feels directly. I'm talking biology. Endocrinology, more specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 12:06 AM
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As long as feels > reals you are not going to be convinced
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 08:36 PM
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Call me paranoid Okay.
/r/askTRP03/03/16 10:52 AM
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Sexual jealousy had nothing to do with it. Your reading comprehension could use some work. But attachment to your partner and contentment with them can be built over years so that there's something much more powerful bonding you. In comparison the bonding that originates with orgasm is short-lived and weak. No. The hormones oxytocin and vasopressin are implicated in regulating both male and female sexual motivation. Oxytocin is released at orgasm and is associated with both sexual pleasure and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 10:50 AM
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Username checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 05:40 PM
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;)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 05:16 PM
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You write like you are trying to pad out an essay for English 11 Honors. Don't use seven words when zero would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 05:12 PM
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Take it elsewhere. It's not wanted here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 05:01 PM
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We can learn a lot by studying the neurological pathways for processes already fairly understood! But sexual jealousy is not one of those processes. Sexual jealousy had nothing to do with it. You may choose who to bond with emotionally but who you will bond biologically with is who you are having orgasms with. It's not a choice. Also, vassopressin's role in pair bonding is much better understood than you are implying. Scientists experimenting on voles were able to turn monogamy on and off like a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 05:00 PM
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Wikipedia's description of ERG theory seems to contradict your description. He said that when needs in a higher category are not met then individuals redouble the efforts invested in a lower category need. For example if self-actualization or self-esteem is not met then individuals will invest more effort in the relatedness category in the hopes of achieving the higher need. Is there done other motivational theory you had in mind that doesn't use the hierarchy model?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:57 AM
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Being humiliated by an attractive woman is definitely something to lose. The more a woman is out of your league the more cruelly and publicly she will twist the knife in you just so everyone knows exactly how far above you she believes herself to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:51 AM
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That is exactly the opposite of how everyone acts in every other aspect of life. I would say that it makes zero sense but that would flatter what you just said. More like it makes the opposite of sense. Desperate people lower their standards until they can't lower them anymore and then they abandon all hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:41 AM
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Other theories suggest that people will always want what they lack more instead of going for the second level only when the first level is fulfilled. What theories?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:16 AM
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Starving people will only eat at Michelin star restaurants. The impoverished and unemployed will only accept 6 figure salaries. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:15 AM
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If you worked in an office, would you go up to a group of women and say "hi bitches"? The reverse is also true. If I talked to my close friends the way I talk to coworkers then they would also take that as a sign of disrespect. I don't talk women I am attracted to the way I talk to coworkers because then they would take our relationship to be professional rather than personal. It's not that some types of speech are better or more respectful than others. It's the right words for the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:08 AM
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You said that women can't empathize with them and offer them sympathy. I am offering them empathy and sympathy right now. If you were capable of truly empathizing with a man you would know that your offer of empathy and sympathy is useless for him. He wants to be respected and desired. If anything your offer is just adding insult to injury.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 01:53 AM
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That's a horrible lie. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Take this blue pill and go back up sleep. It was all a just a bad dream." Do you think you can erase years of loneliness, isolation, and rejection with some empty platitudes? If even a minority of women felt that way there would be no incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 01:48 AM
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Tell my girlfriend that when I'm at the strip club.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 09:46 PM
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The entire point of their sub is to make fun of red pill, no effective dialog can be exchange because of that reason ... if someone can present to me evidenced that I'm wrong I will gladly change my point of view ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 09:20 PM
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In scenario B there is no time pressure because a man can father a child at any time. He could settle down in his youth and slut it up later on in life. As is traditional, he could marry and keep some mistresses on the side. There are lots of options most of which require being imprudent, dishonest or both. This one aspect of male sexual strategy that is not discussed enough in the red pill o sphere, probably because it's not flattering to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 09:18 PM
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So, trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 09:05 PM
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There will be tens of millions of people taking illegal drugs this weekend. You are more likely to get struck by lightning than to actually serve time in prison for a first time drug possession. In California, for example, possession below a quantity that is "for sale" is only a misdemeanor. You have to have a pretty shit lawyer to actually see the inside of a jail for a misdemeanor first offense. If the DA even wants to prosecute. Which the point of this of course: prosecutorial discretion. DAs…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 09:04 PM
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I was floating in space enveloped by a glowing red intergalactic vagina. Supposedly there is a level beyond that and I'm curious to see what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 08:39 PM
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Do you know that there are genes in the Y chromosome that improve the health of a growing fetus at the increased risk of the mother during during child birth? And there are genes on the X chromosome that suppress the action of that gene? The point being is that genes do what is best for their own reproduction. That is all that is "required". If having one sexual strategy helps a person spread their genes at the expense of someone else, that is what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 08:36 PM
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Lift. Get rich. DGAF.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 08:18 PM
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Arrested does not mean charged or convicted. Maybe you get a fine or community service. Worst case scenario you get probation. Non violent drug offenders are selling, repeat offenders, violating parole, or have the temerity to be a black male in the wrong neighborhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 08:16 PM
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Then why are you on this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 06:31 PM
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Purely for possession? No. I'll go ahead and claim it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 06:29 PM
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No, it goes in cycles. During the 50s it was widely believed that we were going through a technological and social golden age. Visions of the future were utopian in nature to the point of fetishizing anything that seemed "futuristic". Anything "pre-war" was elevated to the dustbin of history. During the height of the Renaissance in Europe the prior era was coined as The Dark Ages. During the Islamic golden age the previous time was known as Jahiliyyah or the Age of Ignorance. Whenever a society …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 06:24 PM
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Pair-bonding is mutually exclusive with absence of monogamy for you. That does not mean that other people are required to function that way. No. Pair bonding is a biochemical process involving the activation of your vassopressin receptors. You don't have a choice in the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 05:09 PM
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I have. More of a spiritual than emotional experience. Quite enlightening but I'm not sure I crossed the threshold dose. Would recommend at least once.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:32 PM
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If you have the opportunity and you don't take it then you don't really want it that bad. The proof is in the pudding.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:30 PM
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Straight women have the same access to sex as gay men, perhaps quite a bit more given the lower supply of straight women and the much larger group of straight men. If you are not having at least as much sex as a single gay man then, no, you do not have a male libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 06:39 AM
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If you were/are single would you have as much and as promiscuous sex as an average single gay man?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 06:02 AM
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About 75 percent of all women never reach orgasm from intercourse alone -- that is without the extra help of sex toys, hands or tongue. And 10 to 15 percent never climax under any circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 05:54 AM
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Do you have as much and as promiscuous sex as a gay man?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 05:52 AM
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We fuck to make us feel good. Choosing the guy that makes you feel good is therefore rational (but not necessarily logical). We supposedly elect a president to run the country, i.e. to objectively improve the condition of the nation's citizens. The plot twist comes when you consider "expressive voting" or theories that people care more about personal pleasure derived from voting for candidates that flatter their beliefs or allow them to virtue signal than they care about actually governing the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 04:05 AM
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You speak with so much certainty I have to assume you have personally experienced both.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:53 AM
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I have. It's great, but I wouldn't have the patience for it most of the time. Don't most women have a problem even climaxing once during sex? We need a more egalitarian distribution of orgasms!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:49 AM
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Sometimes I think I do have a male libido, lol. Unless you have cliniclly diagnosed nymphomania or at least a 200+ partner count, then no, not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:45 AM
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If it doesn't provide sexual satisfaction then you are really comparing apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:40 AM
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An ideal free market is a market devoid of restriction and regulation, where rewards are given out depending solely on each participant's inherent potential and willingness to utilize that potential, right? So... how the hell would that be even remotely true for today's SMP? Way to clearly demonstrate no knowledge of economics. Did you even bother to type in "free market" into Google or wikipedia? In a free-market economy, prices for goods and services are set freely by the forces of supply and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:38 AM
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1) How many frogs do you have to kiss to find a prince? 2) How long does it take to figure out if he's a prince? 3) Do you believe your willingness to kiss random amphibians affects the likelyhood of attracting frogs vs princes?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:00 AM
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Sounds like a wet dream. Holding an actual weapon in your hands is much more thrilling and effective imo. Does the weapon get you wet?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 02:50 AM
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the implication then being that men are superior. Is Spock superior to Captain Kirk?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 02:16 AM
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Drugs also get you tossed in jail Did you just graduate from D.A.R.E? How was 6th grade? I've been doing drugs my entire adult life. No middle class adult who can afford a lawyer goes to jail for buying, possessing or taking drugs. Atlas is right, yall are a bunch of pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 02:03 AM
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Weed is life
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 01:58 AM
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Even your psychedelics are a difficult case because their effect varies so incredibly. LSD has done more to make me a better more complete human being than every philosophy, ideology, and religion that I have ever encountered combined.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 01:51 AM
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I mean specifically between two people engaged in a relationship with romantic intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 01:19 AM
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How many doctors marry waitresses vs how many doctors have male friends that are waiters?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 10:52 PM
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There is certainly more to relationships than power struggle, but when you get down to where the rubber meets the road, power and its exchange is what makes the difference between smooth driving and winding up in a ditch. I suppose we are just going to disagree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 10:50 PM
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how would you know if you won? <3
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 10:45 PM
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Just to clarify: 1) Do you agree that sexual relationships do involve power struggle? 2)Do you agree that recognizing such a power struggle exists will help one be more successful in said sexual relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 10:16 PM
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Do you know anyone who achieved great success without some level of obsession? 10,000 hours. And your alternative is to put on blinders, pretend the struggle doesn't exist, and hope for the best? That sounds like a recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 09:15 PM
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All guys are in that struggle whether they signed up for it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 09:03 PM
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Literal cuckoldry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 05:11 PM
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All people are irrational, especially when it comes to sexual attraction. The rational response to a feeling of risk of crime would be to carry a gun, learn martial arts, or move to a better neighborhood, not to fuck your gym instructor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 09:45 PM
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Of course NAWALT, always NAWALT, even when statistically significant data says otherwise. If you believe making generalizations about women is always heresy then nothing will convince you otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 09:42 PM
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Because having a dude with juicy forearms is the most rational way to deal with the risk of crime. Why not a short skinny rich dude that can move you to gated community. Also, you are implicitly admitting that women are subconsciously sexually aroused by a man's ability to engage in physical violence, just to get that on the record.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 09:36 PM
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Seems to me like the smarter choice would be to choose a partner adverse to violence. Further evidence that people in general, and women in particular, do not use rational decision making to choose who they are attracted to, but instead rely on instinct and emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 07:42 PM
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In a high crime area it makes sense, a practical decision moreso than one of attraction. High fear of crime is generally a paranoid response. But if fear of crime is a paranoid one and not a rational one, the attraction to physically protective men is emotional not practical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 07:39 PM
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If you are a coddled suburbanite that lives in a neighborhood with virtually zero crime rate and your fear of crime is completely irrational so your attraction to men with big biceps and broad shoulders is in no way pragmatic. You are twisting yourself into a pretzel to rationalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 07:34 PM
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Even when a woman's actual risk of victimization is low, those with a strong PPFDM feel more at risk. Women desired a protective mate regardless of whether they're was an actual personal risk. That indicates that the preference is psychological, not practical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 05:27 PM
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Even when a woman's actual risk of victimization is low, those with a strong PPFDM feel more at risk. It's not a practical preference. It's an emotional preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 05:24 PM
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For example, TRP would never say, "Because women are more generous and charitable, you could try voluntering at your local animal shelter to meet women." Can't speak to the rest of your post, but trp doesn't recommend this because IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK. Just because women are charitable doesn't mean they are attracted to men who are charitable. Trp is practical in nature: what will get you laid. If women actually responded to that kind of thing trp would be all over it. If volunteering at an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 04:15 PM
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The difference between groups vastly exceeds the difference between individuals within the groups. Therefore it is a useful heuristic to generalize by group membership.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 12:49 AM
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Average Testosterone Levels for Males = 270 - 2,070 ng/dL Average Testosterone Levels for Females = 15 - 70 There is no overlap here. There are two very mutually exclusive groups. Even the lowest testosterone men have 4x the levels of the very highest testosterone females. Source
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 10:30 PM
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The burden of proof is on you. You claim answers have been given but your are unwilling or unable to identify them. Either way makes your argument a failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 10:20 PM
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Status competion between women makes the most sense to me but I'm sure there are a bunch of secondary reasons too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 09:13 PM
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Testosterone levels are different, testosterone effects behavior, therefore groups that have different levels of testosterone will have different behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 09:02 PM
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X chromosomes > testosterone > behavior. Or are you going to claim that sex chromosomes don't determine testosterone?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 08:28 PM
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I let google scholar do it for me. There are literally libraries that can and have been written on this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 07:25 PM
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So women wear makeup so other women won't give them shit? Thank you. That was the first real answer in 40 comments. * tips fedora *
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 07:06 PM
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Would you prefer "Almost all women are like that" or "A vast majority of women are like that" or "So many women are like that the ones that aren't like that are statistically insignificant"? There are massive biological influences to certain behavior traits, those traits are biologically unique to women but NAWALT sweeps that under the rug for ideological convenience. The idea that women have anything in common BECAUSE they are women is politically incorrect so I don't expect you to give any gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 06:58 PM
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X and Y chromosomes determine the most powerful hormones that modify behavior, especially sexual behavior thus showing that SOMETIMES all women are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 06:40 PM
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Are these comments made by women? Because I have never made such a comment myself and it wouldn't even occur to me to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 06:38 PM
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We all have our reasons. Men's are fairly straight forward. Women have their reasons too but a bit more subtle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 05:35 AM
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Im not a woman. I don't wear makeup. I have never received nor made such a comment. What would the comment be and why would someone make it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 05:33 AM
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I didn't say that all people with two X chromosomes are cisgendered females. I said all cisgendered females have two X chromosomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 05:32 AM
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All (cis-gendered) women have two X chromosomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 04:07 AM
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What bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 04:05 AM
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So you admit that there is at least one thing in which AWALT?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:40 AM
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I did the work. I read all the comments multiple times. I don't see any answer to the question I asked. You claimed that there are plenty there. You can prove that true with a single quote but you are unable to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:38 AM
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I don't see why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:36 AM
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Emotional bonding. Oxytocin is a hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:35 AM
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ci·ta·tion sīˈtāSH(ə)n/ noun a quotation from or reference to a book, paper, or author, especially in a scholarly work. "there were dozens of citations from the works of Byron" Citation. Please quote an actual WHY someone wears makeup, as in an ultimate internal motivation, not a what or when or how.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:00 AM
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All women walk on their feet instead of their hands. How does NAWALT explain that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 02:57 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 02:56 AM
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I've read it. All you have to do is make one citation that answers the question and I will concede the point. Not that hard. Citation. Please quote an actual WHY someone wears makeup, as in an ultimate internal motivation, not a what or when or how.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 01:18 AM
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Then how do you explain married Red pill and red pill women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 12:51 AM
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I'm digging for answers. That means asking probing questions. So, care to answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 12:18 AM
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If NAWALT, why does that apply to makeup but not math?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 12:17 AM
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Citation. Please quote an actual WHY someone wears makeup, as in an ultimate internal motivation, not a what or when or how.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 12:15 AM
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Why doesn't NAWALT apply to understanding of basic math? Sounds more like "NAWALT except when they are".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 11:32 PM
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Makeup = formal but several commenters here are staying that they wear makeup to the grocery store. Some wear makeup just to hang around the house. It's clearly not just about being formal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 11:20 PM
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I disagree. The specific question of WHO is being pleased/impressed by make up and WHY has been deliberately ignored in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 11:19 PM
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All Cis Women are Like That
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 11:17 PM
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No it doesn't bother me. Why would it? It actually happens fairly often that we will go out in groups and some people will cover other people's checks for various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 10:54 PM
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Yes. Men have a lot on common. In things related to sex differences AMALT is a useful heuristic. The opposite of NAWALT is not that all women are identical in all things. It's that women are all alike in some things, and the root cause of that sameness is the X chromosome. It only takes one counter example to disprove a universal statement. Will you agree that all women have X chromosomes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 10:49 PM
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He's not your friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 10:38 PM
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Except you don't sit around all day looking at yourself in the mirror. Other people are the ones seeing someone pleasing? Who are these people and why do women want to please them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 10:38 PM
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All women think the sky is blue, the earth is round, and that 2+2=4? NAWALT doesn't explain that. "Not all women are like that except when they are" doesn't have the same ring to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 10:35 PM
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Why does wearing makeup make a woman fancy? As a guy, if I wrote makeup to a black tie event I would probably get thrown out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 10:33 PM
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Mainstream BP advice to men is that the way too earn a ladies favor is to do nice things for her like hold open doors and pay for her meals. Like a sucker, he takes that advice at face value. Given that he wants that girl to be attracted to him he follows the wrong advice with the right intentions. Ignorant, but given his ignorance, understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 10:31 PM
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It's dumb but understandable. It won't work but given social conditioning I understand why he would think it was a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 10:26 PM
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It's a tautology. Women are different because all women are different. That's not an explanation that is just a statement without justification.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 10:22 PM
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All women have two X chromosomes. How does NAWALT explain that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 10:20 PM
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Why do people do what they do? I have an interesting manifesto No matter what their behavior is The answer is "Because I said so" is answer in quatrain form.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 09:41 PM
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There are nerves in my genital region that are wired to parts of my brain that release dopamine. There are no "makeup nerves" in your face that detect makeup and release dopamine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 09:26 PM
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What does NAWALT explain? How is it a better explanation than "magic"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 08:57 PM
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And then a man comes along to set me straight, "nah, it's all for the pussy." Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 07:33 PM
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Why do women want to be visually pleasing to others?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 07:08 PM
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Because my body will release dopamine into my blood stream which makes me feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 07:06 PM
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"Because magic" is also a simple explanation. It's also useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 06:36 PM
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Why do they want to cover up blemishes? What does covering up blemishes do for them? Most people see blemishes as undesirable, therefore they want to hide them. Who are they hiding the blemishes from? Went do they not want them to be seen? What do they hope to gain by appearing to have fewer blemishes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 06:35 PM
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The heart of my critique here is that you are answering WHAT and not WHY i.e. proximate vs ultimate motivation. For example, if you asked me why I go to the gym all the time I could say that it is because I want bigger biceps, broader shoulders, and more defined abs. Although that is technically true it doesn't describe my motivations at all. If I told you that I want to look good naked so that women will want to have sex with me that would be a lot closer to the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 06:23 PM
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Yes, but WHY does makeup make you look more formal? Flip flops and ripped jeans are comfortable and low effort and that is what makes them informal. But you have to wear something to not be exposed to the elements so you choose the clothes that fit the setting. But there is no need to wear makeup in the first place? Why wear it at all? Why do men not have to wear makeup to look formal?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 06:17 PM
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What is it about a fancy event that would make someone more likely to wear makeup? I feel like this is a stupidly obtuse question. I am stupidly obtuse. Could you ELI5?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 05:51 PM
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You are going to have to go deeper than that. Some women wear makeup to cover up blemishes. Why do they want to cover up blemishes? What does covering up blemishes do for them? Some wear makeup to play with pallet colors. Why do they play with pallet colors? Most are not makeup artists professionally. Why do they need to be good at combining makeup colors? Some use makeup to compensate for insecurity. How does makeup help with insecurity? Some wear makeup because their job requires it. Unless th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 05:05 PM
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Narcissistic and sociopathic personality types are very high functioning socially. They are usual quite adept at manipulating others and as such are generally very sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 01:47 AM
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Monogamy wasn't "invented" it evolved. Human babies take a longass time to mature and it takes a family, a society, to protect and provide for them in the meantime Average length of marriage across all cultures is 2 to 4 years, about how long it takes to give birth and wean a child. Life long monogamy is a fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 05:04 PM
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But one person does not create a marketplace. For every one woman that wants monogamy there are 10 that want to fuck on the first date. How is she supposed to compete with that? She either has to lower her standards to get someone who either is not attractive enough to get casual sex or compete with the large number of similarly minded women chasing the small number of attractive men interested in monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 05:01 PM
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and turns into chocolate after sex This is great. I'm stealing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 04:53 PM
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That's fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 03:53 PM
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No. Now answer the question. Should you have to agree to be raped in order to get the rights that the government exclusively gives to married couples?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 03:48 PM
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There are hundreds of rights that you can only get by being legally married. If you payed attention during the gay marriage debate you would know that. Should you have to agree to be raped in order to get the rights that the government exclusively gives to married couples?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 08:20 AM
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There is a lot of variability within both groups. There is also some differences in how we are socialized. So men and women are different as far as any two men are different. No. Men and women are different. If you graph the abilities of men and women on various abilities they do not overlap. They are not the same. The differences are biological and not social.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 06:40 AM
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Women are not men. It is a pillar of modern feminism that men and women are functionally identical and that any differences are due to patriarchy, socialization, or discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 03:31 AM
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Yes. That is why the men's rights movement will never get off the ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 01:51 AM
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Anyone who believes this hasn't been to /r/DeadBedrooms Choreplay makes you a better roommate, but doesn't generate attraction where there was none. Can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 01:36 AM
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Sounds like that is the same response to every thread: everyone is different and there is nothing you can generalize ever. Ideologically convenient but utterly useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 01:29 AM
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Most people who have sex on the regular, are pretty obsessed with things besides sex. Young Muslim men that are recruited as jihadis have never had sex and believe they never will. Sex is everything to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 01:25 AM
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Who wants to go over/under on how long before Ben can go a whole thread without using the word "model"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 01:17 AM
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I've seen the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 01:13 AM
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If a woman can function just as well as a lawyer as a man, why not have her be a lawyer? I agree! But that is not the reality though. The status quo is that there should be an equal number of male and female lawyers because reasons! Take programming for example. It's no longer enough to say that if a woman is a good programmer she should be a programmer. Instead, we are told that if there aren't just as many male and female programmers it's because of deep seated misogyny and systemic sexism. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 12:10 AM
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So you didn't respond to my opinion because I never said that. You are just talking to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 12:04 AM
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Well then we have views of morality that are so different I don't think we can resolve them. Without getting personal I'll just say that I think it is disgusting that a woman should have to agree to being raped in order to share her marital property or visit her husband in the hospital. In my view, the government has a monopoly on defining marriage and there are hundreds of legal rights and privileges that are exclusive to married persons. Therefore the content of those rights and responsibiliti…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 12:01 AM
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If you reply to my comment you are responding to what I wrote. If you want to ignore what I said then start your own comment thread or make a new post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 10:36 PM
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No metaphors. I mean literally should we use spoons that way? Do you use your spoons that way? I'm talking about actual metal spoons. As in utensils. The ones you keep in your kitchen. They're curved at one end and have a handle. SMH
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 08:05 PM
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Morally, then do you think it was fair that men used to be able to rape their wives? The wife voluntarily chose to change her status to married therefore she should take responsibilty for her choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:08 PM
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Where did I say that? If you don't develop some reading comprehension you are going to be wrong in many things through your life bro
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 05:45 PM
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because the contract the couple signed says so. if you don't want that don't sign. There are two ways to interpret this 1) That the parties were free to choose their own terms as in a contract and therefore alimony is morally justified by that choice. As I showed above, this is factually incorrect. 2) The government says so, and therefore is morally justified. This is of course ethically vacuous. It used to be that you could legally rape your wife. The same justification could be used: she agree…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 05:43 PM
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I'm arguing that people should do what they are good at Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, huh? Maybe if you read too much tumblr then you would get the idea that we live in some medievel patriarchal society where women are prohibited from doing anything that their talents allow them. This is not the case. Instead we bribe women with scholarships, cajole them with quotas, and guilt trip them for not supporting "the cause" into doing stuff they otherwise wouldn't want to. We live in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 04:20 PM
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Double strawman. No one is arguing that we should remove women. I'm arguing that people should do what they are good at and that insisting on perfect 50/50 symmetry bergen men and women ignores established scientific biological differences between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:36 AM
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So b/c men might be better at those things (hypothetically) women should be banned? STRAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWMAAAAAAAAAAN
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 05:56 AM
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Quoting two replies from another thread: The differences are dramatic and are biological. The source of the biological differences is a huge difference in testosterone production. Testosterone affects behavior and brain development and the differences can be detected from the first days of life. I would say it matters quite a bit. Testosterone is well documented to affect aggression, competitiveness, risk taking behavior, dominance, protectiveness, preference for systems over people, development…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 02:18 AM
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I'm countering that the naturalistic fallacy is not always a fallacy. Is a spoon real achieving its highest purpose by being used to chop apples? Should we as sentient moral agents decide en mass to use spoons that way? No metaphors. I mean literally should we use spoons that way? Do you use your spoons that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 02:15 AM
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Testosterone is well documented to affect aggression, competitiveness, risk taking behavior, dominance, protectiveness, preference for systems over people, development of math and spacial reasoning, and a million and one other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 02:07 AM
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It's indicative of our profound bloodlines differences. From my other reply: The differences are dramatic and are biological. The source of the biological differences is a huge difference in testosterone production. Testosterone affects behavior and brain development and the differences can be detected from the first days of life. I would say it matters quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 01:57 AM
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People have the choice to do what they want. There is no law that says you can't chop an apple with a spoon and eat soup with a knife. But should you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 01:54 AM
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The differences are dramatic and are biological. The source of the biological differences is a huge difference in testosterone production. Testosterone affects behavior and brain development and the differences can be detected from the first days of life. I would say it matters quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 01:52 AM
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I think you are underestimating the differences in physical strength. There is almost no overlap in the two bell curves. In other words 99% of men are stronger than 99% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 01:25 AM
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If rock dates paper and paper dates scissors, who dates, fat, unemployed, autistic nerds that live in their parents basement?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 12:45 AM
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I think at least half of human sexual behavior can be explained by the fact that we are primates whose sexual dimorphism indicates we are half way between pair-bonding and tournament species. The rest is psychology, culture, and other side effects of having an unusually large prefrontal cortex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 11:40 PM
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Teachers are predominantly women, and recent years administrators are too. Ed schools have been completely coopted by feminist critical theory. It is less beneficial to you if you don't fit female gender roles but that doesn't make them any less female centric. In any case, schools are outright hostile to boys and any male only education on men's issues would be dead on arrival or would be converted into seminars on why males are the root of all evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 11:32 PM
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Pem, you know that's not how it works on PPD. 1) Take every post literally and interpret it in the least charitable way possible 2) Introduce an indefensible strawman and attack the posters character and intentions 3) Circlejerk using withering sarcasm, intersperse with a slew of profanities, and close with self righteous proclamations of victory That's how we roll.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 11:26 PM
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A hate group is an organized group or movement that advocates and practices hatred, hostility, or violence towards members of a race, ethnicity, nation, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation or any other designated sector of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 10:36 PM
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I think this question would get significantly different answers if targeted at BP men vs BP women. A woman will get approached by a large number of men of varying attractiveness and compatability so screening is an effective strategy. Because men have to approach forest this strategy does not seem like it would be as effective. I would be interested in hearing first hand accounts from men and women who have tried it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 10:02 PM
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That's not what OP said. He said that short guys are doomed to failure. All it takes is one counter example to disprove that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:55 PM
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Maybe I'm completely blind, deaf, and dumb and I've been locked in a cage for the last 20 years, cut off from my surroundings, society, and all human contact. Or maybe you are full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:32 PM
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I've been studying behavioral biology. I suggest this Stanford lecture series as a good start.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:30 PM
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Supply and demand. There are lots of BP men chasing a few women that fit what they want and those women don't want the type of guys that match them. If this was the best approach to attraction all women would be dating their lesbian twins.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:27 PM
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hypergamy, af/bb, solipsism, branch swinging, etc. I agree with you, these are deeply erroneous and toxic concepts. No, we don't agree. Unlike you, I believe they are accurate. I don't discard true statements just because some people call them evil. There is no grand theory of which techniques work and which don't. That is why I believe it is a dead end. I have no interest in investing my mental energies in "just because".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:01 PM
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Young women frequently approach men. All women, frequently approach men. Are we on the same planet or are you using definitions of the words "frequently" and "approach" that can't be found in the dictionary? Even the most obscenely and aggressively forward women I have ever met get approached 10 times as often as they make the approach themselves. I'll wager that sizable percentage of women with active sex lives will never have to approach a man first.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 08:54 PM
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I was introduced to the pick up/seduction community 9 years ago. Nothing in that subreddit us new to me. The things that you and others call toxic and vitriolic: hypergamy, af/bb, solipsism, branch swinging, etc. are the whys. Trying to be successful in romantic relationships without it is like trying to design a car while pretending that physics doesn't exist. Sure you can get by with some rules of thumb and fly by the seat of your pants but you are going to wind up with a Yugo that breaks down…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 08:43 PM
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I'm saying women have more options for casual sex than they do for long term relationship. The disparity between women's willingness to supply casual sex and men's demand for it means women can have casual sex with men that are much more attractive than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 08:33 PM
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That doesn't mean she is more attractive. That just means she has more options for casual sex. I'll believe she is more attractive when one of those guys is willing to put a ring on it. I'm guessing none.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 08:28 PM
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Knowing the legal implications of something doesn't make it a contract. By that measure serving on a jury, getting elected to public office, and becoming a naturalized citizen are all contracts. Nonsense. They, like marriage, are a change of legal status, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 08:21 PM
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1) Not long ago the torches pitchforks were out for /r/seduction calling it rape training. Now they're the good guys? 2) Seduction is extremely shallow. While effective, it's a set of parlor tricks that won't help you past the first date. It probably seems "nicer" because doesn't explain WHY the tricks work the way they do and it is the "why" that people find offensive about the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 08:15 PM
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You make it sound like men's goal is to have an abusive relationship and not just get their dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 06:05 PM
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Said by someone that clearly had never had his balls busted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 06:01 PM
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Nah. Schools are completely female-centric. Boys need male role models.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 04:38 PM
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Is definitely the point. To a lay person calling marriage a contract is extremely deceptive bordering on dishonest. It is unlike anything the average person would consider a contract. You can't negotiate the terms of the agreement, you can't modify it, you can't sue to enforce it. It is a contract in name only. It's somewhere between calling cheesecake a cake and calling a creampie a pie.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 04:20 PM
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Sexual reproducing has been around in all complex organisms for 1 billion years. I feel like it has persisted for a good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 01:49 AM
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How do I appeal? circkejerk: a group discussion or activity between like-minded individuals that validates mutual biases or goals in a non-confrontational environment. What is the official mood team definition of circle jerk? I never encountered your interpretation before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 01:45 AM
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I'm not circlejerking. That would imply some sort of agreement. I'm pointing out hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 01:27 AM
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Citation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 08:07 PM
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what else makes a better justification for the anger phase? Dead bedroom. Amen. Lost my virginity at 18. Married to the same woman 9 years later wound up in a dead bedroom and stayed there for 5 years. /r/deadbedrooms proved to me that the blue pill had absolutely zero idea how attraction is generated and sustained. There's a 99% failure failure rate on that sub if the cause isn't purely medical. Following that idiotic advice doomed my marriage so, yeah, I was a little angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 04:19 PM
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F.A.N.T.A.S.Y. Do you also believe everything you read in Penthouse Letters? Do you believe women who read "non-consent" erotic stories actually like being raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 09:24 PM
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To the comment that women were worse off you replied "lol." You are rewriting history. Even with alimony, men come out financially ahead after a divorce. lol No one comes out financially ahead. Not men. Not anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 09:12 PM
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It's not a contest. Everyone is worse off after divorce. Women more so because they financially benefit from marriage. What's the surprise here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 09:00 PM
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Stats: Divorced men make 33% less than married men. That is not even taking into account alimony and child support payments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 06:20 PM
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I assumed that for weeks now, the being a woman part, not what turns you on. I can see how that would be arousing but I've yet to meet a woman that can scare me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 07:32 AM
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Not necessarily, but I would say that it's a sexual fetish that derives from and feeds off of deep seated insecurity and inadequacy. Again, there is a difference between engaging in a specific consensual fetish practice and actually being an unwilling cuckold. The second makes one a total loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 07:27 AM
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Nice. What kinds of bait do you use to get the fish you are looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 06:54 AM
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The fight or flight response is essential for generating arousal. The fear of loss associated with cuckoldry creates a fear boner. It needs to be understood that cuckoldry is a form of bdsm and thus practiced within similar frame and limitations. Our so I've heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 06:52 AM
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Computer Engineering. I sleep much better now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 05:27 PM
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It's cool. I used to practice patent law. We all have our demons. * raises pint *
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 06:49 AM
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Now I really don't trust you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 06:37 AM
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Sounds a bit like extortion to me. Welcome to divorce court!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 06:07 AM
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Eh. I came across it multiple times when researching my own divorce. In California, having a domestic violence conviction increases spousal support payments. Since almost all cases are settled before trial, women have an incentive to file or threaten to file DV charges as a negotiating tactic. Imagine if a law as nebulous as the emotional abuse law was enacted here? Every divorce would be held in criminal court instead of family court. Edit: Divorce attorney? Unethical? My sides!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 05:22 AM
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That MIGHT be a defence. There tons of potential caveats. I would recommend each party have their own specialist lawyer involved. (Having one lawyer opens you up to possible invalidation) It's much more complicated than it appears.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 01:32 AM
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Domestic violence laws have already been used this way. Already divorcing women are encouraged by their lawyers to file domestic abuse charges for the purpose of advancing their alimony settlement. The emotional abuse law is much more vague and harder to prove. Under the statute almost any unhappy marriage could be considered emotional abuse and judges have a wide authority to interpret it. This law is asking to be abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 01:24 AM
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Swallowed the red pill but chased it with enough blue pill to keep myself sane. Practically that means understanding and accepting the reality of behavioral biology while not abandoning the higher ideals of ethics and humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 01:17 AM
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One word for you: palimony. There is already legal precedent for giving alimony to unmarried couples. This requires some kind of imputed contract and having a wedding ceremony could easily satisfy that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 01:05 AM
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What advice would you give to your past self, knowing what you know now?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:54 PM
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Not necessarily. Just because advancing a certain position is in your self interest doesn't make that position right or wrong. It just explains why there is a tendency for some people to be more likely to hold certain positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:53 PM
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And when all the people of one gender interpret a movie one way and all the people of the other gender interpret it another way?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 08:56 PM
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If I'd found a group of men to validate my beliefs, and tell me that women sleep around because they're bad people, that they're actually intellectually inferior, that they're just jumping from cock to cock at the command of their "hamster", that would have exactly matched what I wanted to believe at that time: that I was better than these women whose sexual opportunities I so desperately envied. That is an interesting characterization of red pill but I don't think it's accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 08:28 PM
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Quote my strawman and I'll stop complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 04:43 PM
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Women can be psychological abusers too, of course, although I'm not sure how often that will be prosecuted with this new law. A whole lot of never.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 04:26 PM
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I don't need to defend your strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 04:13 PM
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Now you are quibling. Marriage is a contract but it only has one term: you agree to change your legal status from single to married. All "terms" are set in statute and are not subject to contractual interpretation, modification, or litigation as you would any other contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 04:12 PM
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No. It's excessively optimistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 03:34 AM
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No. Just no. Source: Married best friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 03:31 AM
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It's awarded to whoever exited the job market for a substantial amount of time for the benefit of the marriage (kids etc). That's a nice sentiment but that is not the law. You can spend 20 years drinking mimosas with your girlfriends and banging the yoga instructor while the nanny and maid do all the work and still qualify for the same alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 03:26 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 03:08 AM
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What if he is an athlete and his earnings potential has plummeted? Can he charge that capital depreciation against her?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 02:45 AM
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And when the law as written and applied has very little to do with the intent you can't cite the intent and say "the law is this".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 02:43 AM
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I assumed that your flair was sarcastic too. Shit's just wrapping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 02:38 AM
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Marriage is not a contract. Not in the legal sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 02:16 AM
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Why do you bother locking your door in the morning? Don't you know that "locked" and "unlocked" are stupid dualistic dichotomies that will just get you nowhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 02:14 AM
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So your argument is "sure the laws are unfair, but nobody likes you so go sick an egg"? How enlightened.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 02:09 AM
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Don't be so condescending. It's almost as if some people have first hand experience with this and have the garnished pay stubs to prove it and aren't going to take some internet wannabe lawyer's word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 02:06 AM
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to support them by caring for house and kids so the other can advance in career and earning potential, That is the intention but is in no way a requirement. If both partners work the same number of hours and do the same amount of housework and have no kids, the higher earning partner will still pay the lower earning partner alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 02:03 AM
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Did you even read your link? It says that the more premarital partners the less stable the marriage and more likely divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 01:55 AM
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He keeps getting older but the girls stay the same age. Awww yeah!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 01:31 AM
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What were your values and ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 01:21 AM
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Except, in our culture, LTR's demand marriage at some point. Marriage demands kids. How about you grow a pair and do what's best for you instead of what society expects.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 01:13 AM
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I ment to write "denigrate his lack of confidence". From above: Men slut shaming women because they're insecure is pathetic. I wrote that insecurity is a combination of lack of confidence and infidelity. The very first response was to lionize the victim status of the unfaithful while shaming the unconfident. And, face it, that is the go-to response every time this discussion is brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 01:00 AM
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You kind find plenty of examples in this thread, even in your own posts if you had a shred of self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 11:02 PM
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I can use that saved time to enjoy a lifetime of loneliness. Yay?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 10:19 PM
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There you go insinuating that it is acceptable to shame one sort of weakness or failure but not another. You could just as easily say that feminism allows women to cling to infidelity. How about we stop making excuses for poor behavior of any kind?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 10:18 PM
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There are two factors in security or lack thereof: confidence and conditions. Even a talented and confident skier would be insecure going down a step, rocky, icy slope in the pitch black during a snow storm. The problem is that too often people will deflect from their own untrustworthy behavior by accusing their partner of insecurity. For men, this is compounded by the fact that it is socially acceptable and encouraged to denigrate a man's (edit: lack of) confidence while terms used to disparage…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 09:34 PM
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Average relationship length in that hypothetical universe would be 6.3 days.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 08:30 PM
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Reason is actually an omega trait. Alpha = leader, head of the pack "The sky is blue because I say so. Beta = follower, member of the pack "The sky is blue because HE says so." Omega = independent, lone wolf "The sky is blue because that is the way it is, regardless of how you or I feel about it"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 08:28 PM
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That is an odious attitude. I wouldn't want to have a relationship, sexual or otherwise, with anyone who thought that way. I practice honesty and expect nothing less from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:51 PM
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Woosh. You are saying that if you are hungry you shouldn't try to acquire food, you should look internally and just become a less hungry person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 06:44 PM
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I see you traded your angry inferiority complex for an angry superiority complex? Which BenGunnSilver will we see tomorrow?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:41 PM
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I've seen that same response said sarcastically in this context so many times that it took me a while to believe you were actually being serious. SMH.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:31 PM
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If you're hungry by yourself, that means your a hungry person. Fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:16 PM
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Or you could be born rich, tall, and handsome. You're mileage may vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:23 AM
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Cheat on your long term partner and then lie about it. If women already assume you're cheating, then there's literally nothing to lose. This is the only way to be sexually satisfied while maintaining RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:12 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 03:01 AM
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216 = 100(1+r)<sup>30</sup> r = 2.6% annual interest rate That's okay. You're pretty at least. Why don't you leave the math to the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 06:32 AM
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Manufacturing is cheap on China because they artificially control the currency for the benefit of exports and to the detriment of their domestic economy. Germany on the other hand has the highest gdp growth on the industrialized world, the second highest manufacturing output in the world while providing generous maternity leave, free college, and an excellent quality of life for its workers with 0% slave labor. I'll turn down the lollipop, thanks. It's probably made in china and contains too muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 05:36 AM
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Apparently you've never heard of The Great Moderation. If your sides hurt maybe you should skip ab day and pick up an econ textbook instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 02:11 AM
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Lol if you think western Europe has the less successful nations here. Higher education rates, more productivity, higher standards of living, better health care, lower crime. The only thing we are better at is letting plutocrats rob the public coffers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 02:02 AM
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Actually inflation has been steady at historically low rates for decades. Chicken Littles like you have predicting it's demise since the first term of the Clinton administration and have been looking stupid ever since.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 01:59 AM
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Actually the most successful and profitable manufacturing is happening in Germany.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 01:56 AM
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By what measure?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 01:53 AM
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Sorry. You're barking up the wrong tree. Never been a fan of misogyny myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 01:44 AM
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What makes an alpha widow worth it? For the same amount of effort I could get a much higher level of devotion from a non alpha widow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 05:48 PM
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The man who declares himself king is no king.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 04:32 PM
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I think he's saying you need to see a therapist about your PTSD. Extreme trauma increases the size of the amygdala resulting in a highly exaggerated fight or flight response. You are seeing and over-reacting to threats that are not there. Help is available.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 04:25 PM
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Do you have any evidence that these predilections you claim are racial or heritable in nature as opposed to cultural? Is there any evidence, for example, that Asians born and raised in Europe are more racist and xenophobic than native born Europeans or that Europeans born and raised in Asia are less racist and xenophobic than Asians? Or are you pulling this all out of your ass based on biases and stereotypes?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 04:05 PM
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Misandry, on the other hand, is alive and kicking. Couldn't have said it better myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 03:32 PM
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One is a currently active and whose popularity is being pushed by a group that claims to be about gender equality and the others haven't been heard since the Eisenhower administration.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 06:22 AM
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So culture then. You are describing cultural realism and not race realism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 03:17 AM
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Is there an innovation gene that they lack or is it social differences between eastern and western nations? Maybe you don't know tons of extremely talented Asian American artists and other creative types? Maybe you've done some ground breaking generic research or maybe you are just pulling cultural stereotypes out of your ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 02:56 AM
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Because sex realism is real. There are actual identifiable genetic differences between men and women. It's called the X and Y chromosomes. There is no "black gene" or "asian gene". An actual realistic discussion of "race realism" would begin and end with melanin content and epicanthic folds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 02:23 AM
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Then what is race, if not heritable?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 02:19 AM
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White people have much higher average IQ and FTO than blacks, even when controlling for upbringing with adoption studies, etc. Asians and Ashkenazi Jews have a much higher IQ than whites. Caucasians are clearly inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 02:18 AM
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Escalate to kino very quickly. A Brazilian waitress told me that if you talk to a Brazilian girl for 5 minutes and don't kiss her she will assume you are not interested.
/r/askTRP15/02/16 08:17 PM
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Its funny how you picked three words that haven't been in widespread use since the second World War. Google trends graph of mollycoddling, matronising, henpecking, and mansplaining. Which one of these is not like the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:13 PM
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64% of pull requests by men got approved compared to 63% by women. Both men and women had lower pull request acceptance rates if their gender was known. The authors of this paper did not release their data and the paper was not per reviewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:03 PM
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Best comment thread ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 06:04 PM
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"treating women like human beings deserving of respect" That's a straw man
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 04:25 AM
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If you are going to sometimes say 'no' when you mean 'yes' I certainly hope you are prepared for the consequences. Unfortunately all the other women who only use 'no' to mean 'no' will also have to be prepared for the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 01:17 AM
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So you think 39.3% of women are too immature to have sex? Plus you have no idea before hand whether the woman you are with is part of the 39.3% or if she's in the 60.7%. Or if she is part of one group over day or a different group another day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 01:12 AM
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Dozens of us! DOZENS!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 01:01 AM
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Okay, let's skip the first part since it's off topic and I'm pretty sure we aren't going to agree on that at all. The second is pretty straight forward: normative (value) beliefs cannot disprove positive (factual) beliefs even if the subject is something that is socially determined. Take for example something that is 100% socially determined: cars in the US drive on the right side of the road. There is nothing inherent about the universe that requires us to do so. It's just a convention that we …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 11:21 PM
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Cop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 10:32 PM
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Lol. When has that ever worked for anything ever? I suggest you Google "collective action problem".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 10:31 PM
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All I can think of is a horse fucking a balloon.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 09:01 PM
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Read "Sex God Method" by Daniel Rose
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 09:00 PM
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What about lollipop sized?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 08:55 PM
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All you need to get laid is chloroform.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 08:32 PM
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The government used to do something about it. Marriage was for life and divorce was prohibited. Adultery was punishable by death and marital rape was a-ok. It worked. Almost everyone had one and only one partner: very equal. I prefer laissez-faire.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 08:31 PM
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Or it means you have no ability to defend yourself. A broken, drugged out, crippled homeless person lying on the side walk is extremely vulnerable. A baby left in the woods is vulnerable. A mouse in a snake den is vulnerable. Vulnerability implies nothing but the ability to be harmed. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 04:44 PM
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I imagine that would be a good bit less effective than even "say no to drugs". How do you convince people to do something that isn't on their own best interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 04:41 PM
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Vulnerability implies strength. To be honest, it requires a certain amount of mental strength. Show me where in either definition that backs up your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 02:06 AM
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Them your argument is even weaker than I assumed. In order to establish a market value all you need is one buyer and one seller to agree on a price. We on this subreddit are generally middle class english speakers in the western world. That market is homogeneous enough that our is fairly easy to make a roughly accurate comparisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 02:04 AM
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First, human behavior, especially sexual behavior is strongly determined by hats sciences such as biology, genetics, nuerology, evolutionary psychology, endocrinology, etc. etc. Second, even the parts that are affected by society like psychology and culture don't really care what your moral opinion of them is. The fact that in English interrogatories end in a question mark is both completely socially determined and indifferent to your moral judgments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 01:57 AM
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It doesn't: vulnerable [vuhl-ner-uh-buh l] adjective capable of or susceptible to being wounded or hurt, as by a weapon:
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 01:49 AM
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Vulnerability + strength = attractive Vulnerability + weakness = disgust If vulnerability was a straight up attractive trait then it would make the unattractive a little better off when in fact it makes them worse off. Furthermore, too much vulnerability is also a turn off, no matter how attractive you are. At best you can say vulnerability is only good in small amounts given that you are already established as sufficiently strong, masculine, and attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 10:39 PM
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Ill accept that some small part of attractiveness is culturally determined. But you are moving the goal posts: your original argument was that beauty standards are meaningless i.e are totally random and have no predictive power. However I have shown that beauty standards are very similar across all cultures and time periods. Would you like to reform your original statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 10:32 PM
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Only 30% of hot or not traffic is from the US and the US is highly diverse. Even if you look at only one demographic, preferences are highly correlated. Looks are even correlated across centuries. Greek statues are attractive to everyone in every culture across thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 09:02 PM
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How would you "convince society"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 08:52 PM
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I doesn't matter though. If half of women use "no" to mean "yes" or "maybe" it doesn't matter what any one girl chooses to do. The norm has been established. You won't be able to convince all women to play along so some will still do it because it benefits them thus undermining the whole endeavor. What sort of radical behavior modification program do you have in mind to get all women to go against their self interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 08:41 PM
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If it was meaningless then "hot or not" would result in completely random ratings. But it doesn't. A pic that gets a high average score from a large number of users is very likely to also get a high score from a random new user.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 07:35 PM
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Ambiguity come only partially from sex negativity. The more significant cause is signaling. Because women are the gate keepers of sex, they can show higher value by being selective. By saying yes right away they signal lower value. There is also the issue of the pursuit itself being a source of arousal and playing the yes/no game is a way of enhancing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 04:59 PM
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So the ultimate beta provider, world famous, the richest man that ever lived, kind, soft spoken, and generous inspires lust in about a dozen women. I bet a broke musician living in his mom's garage does better than that when he's on tour. Or a moderately attractive man on a motorcycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 04:45 PM
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And the other 3.5 Billion women on earth?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 03:25 AM
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I think you tried to be funny and failed. Not chill enough to play it cool and not over the top enough to spark interest and a reaction. Agree and Amplify would have worked better. Her: "I want to learn more about you before we meet." You: "Good idea. For all I know YOU could be a serial killer. I'm gonna need 3 personal references at least. Where did you go to kindergarten? Social security number? Mother's maiden name?" The real shit test was "wow, is that the only thing you can tell about your…
/r/askTRP11/02/16 03:23 AM
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Let me put a finer point on it: do you think anyone closes their eyes when they are masturbating or having sex and thinks of Bill Gates to get them over the edge?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 03:10 AM
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Go full peacock: suede top hat, feather boa, and a cheetah print suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 02:39 AM
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Have you ever fantasized about Bill Gates? Do you think anyone has?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 02:35 AM
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Dead bedrooms that way ---->
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 02:30 AM
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That'll work about as well as "Just Say No to Drugs".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 02:22 AM
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I'm not seeing anything different, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 02:03 AM
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The is/ought dilemma is as old as philosophy itself. Force equals mass times acceleration. You can use that to design ways to kill people and use can use it design ways to save people. Regardless of which you choose it doesn't make that equation any more or less true. It just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 11:52 PM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 11:47 PM
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/thread No. Edit: Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:49 PM
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Most new terpers are recovering nice guys. They are scared of being hurt by committing emotionally to women who will then reject them. That is why they chase casual sex with low levels of attachment: sex alone doesn't trigger the anxiety and therefore is the safe option.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:39 PM
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It's not two narratives. It's clearly the first one: women are ambiguous when it comes to the word "no". "No means no" is a lie as long as women feel free to say it when they don't mean it. It happens enough that guys have every reason to be skeptical. I've definitely had women get mad at me for stopping a sexual encounter in response to "no" or other clear signs of resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:30 PM
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But if she voices it prior it ruins the fantasy. It's like trying to ask for a surprise birthday party.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:14 PM
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Not to fuck a girl. Emotional and psychological safety is only needed for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:00 PM
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Men also need to feel safe. That doesn't even pass the smell test. I've never experienced anything like that and I never heard another man mention anything even remotely like that. A man would not hesitate to fuck a ninja assassin while she was on fire while falling out of a plane. Just absurd. If anything feeling unsafe makes a man aroused (fear boner).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 05:05 PM
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Paul Newman and Robert Redford were your grandmother's George Clooney and Brad Pitt. Exactly my point. Who cares what look was popular. The girls lusted after Paul Newman and Robert Redford. They were the gold standard of attractiveness. And it turns out that hasn't changed much in thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 07:07 AM
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Good for you. I guess it's more of a privilege than a power, wouldn't you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 06:59 AM
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It looks to me like you just picked two random black and white pictures. What makes you think those people were considered "known for their looks" let alone "the most attractive men in the world"? Actual best looking men of the 60s: Steve McQueen, Warren Beatty, Paul Newman, Clint Eastwood, Rock Hudson. Actors famous for being attractive. They would be considered just as good looking in ancient Greece as they would today.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 06:46 AM
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Being in the possession of a vagina influences others to provide you benefits. No one is buying me first class tickets. Maybe it's because they are not influenced by my genitalia the way they are by yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 03:21 AM
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pow·er ˈpou(ə)r/ noun 1. the ability to do something or act in a particular way, especially as a faculty or quality. 2. the capacity or ability to direct or influence the behavior of others or the course of events.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 02:28 AM
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Why would someone be in a sexual relationship with someone who doesn't want sex? Would you work for an employer that doesn't pay? Would you go to a restaurant that doesn't serve food?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 02:10 AM
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At this point, the only limiting factors on my sex life are time, money, and a pesky obsession with monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 01:56 AM
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None of those bennies are power, though, because they come from someone else. Being able to get other people to do things for you is the very definition of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 01:55 AM
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Women will see what they want in a man of sufficiently high status and charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 01:46 AM
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What women find attractive is as much a fad as what shoes they find cute. If that's the case I'm sure you can point to a time or place for example where very short fat hairy bald men were considered the ideal male form. I'm also sure the physical ideal as expressed in Greek statues would be incomprehensible and maybe repulsive to modern women and as strange as ancient Greek clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 12:27 AM
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You are switching your definition of "need" back and forth between "what is needed for biological reproduction" and "what is needed as a sentient being to be happy" whenever it suits your argument. It is pointless to debate so long as you keep doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 12:18 AM
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The closer you get to the grave, the more you realize that you can't take it with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:15 PM
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You assume a woman's power primarily comes from her earnings potential. For most women that is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:11 PM
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Maybe what you mean is that eggs are more "expensive", but that doesn't mean vaginas themselves are more "scarce". I mean expensive and scarce. You don't need a vagina and a penis for 9 months. You need a vagina for 9 months and a penis for 9 seconds. That's scarce by both senses. Unless your goal is to spawn over 1000 children, you shouldn't care how many eggs a woman has, it's not relevant to you. DNA only cares about how many copies it creates. And it is biology that drives most sexual behavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:07 PM
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Yeah. /r/theredpill subreddit is mostly a shit show. All the good content has spilled off to the blogs and affiliated subreddits. The remainder is a circle jerk hug box.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 08:41 PM
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There are over 7 billion people in the world. It doesn't matter how many children men and women can make, it's not a competition because there's no need for one - there are more than enough humans on the planet. Irrelevant. Does not change the fact that sperm are plentiful and wombs are not. And a man doesn't make a child, he just gives a glob of his genetic material. This is exactly why he can spawn so many - because he's not the one doing all the work. One jizz =/= 9 months of growing a whole …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 08:38 PM
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The red pill isn't a position, it's a set of beliefs, a theory about how the world works. Blue pill theories are generally normative, i.e. concerned with what one ought to do as opposed to describing what is. It's about taking the most convincing aspects of both theories not a compromising "split the difference" centrism. If it's true I'm going to accept it completely regardless of what pill it's from.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 05:38 PM
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A woman can make a child at most once in 9 months. A man can make a child once in 9 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 04:57 PM
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Sperm is a plentiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 04:34 PM
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That makes even less sense. You use x to mean two different things. The first x is the beliefs of some one who swallows the red pill. The second x is the "official" red pill beliefs. It should be x = y + z.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 03:15 AM
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I haven't read Strauss' new book I have and I noticed two things 1) There is a world of difference between pickup and red pill 2) So many of the interactions that occur are pure textbook red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 01:12 AM
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I'm not sure what point your are trying to make but y=0
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 01:02 AM
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Then makes up all kinds of bullshit theory to try to understand what is simple to understand for the rest of us. But you haven't shown that it's a bullshit theory, nor have you provided a better explanation. Your response amounts to nothing more than "That's not very nice!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 12:45 AM
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You are not going to change any minds like that. People who go red pill really only care about whether it works and to a lesser extent whether it's true and not at all about misogyny and political correctness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 11:51 PM
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It's rational in both cases. If it's about men it's viewed as realistic, pragmatic, savvy, and just plain reasonable while the same view about women is the grossest misogyny that makes you worse than Hitler.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 11:47 PM
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Tell my gf that to her face. Edit: are we doing ad hominems today? Of course we are. That's every day on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 11:38 PM
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Because they don't know many Muslims. Source: raised Muslim.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 10:34 PM
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The prime directive: thou shalt never hurt a woman's feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 08:43 PM
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They didn't read past the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 08:41 PM
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The observation is that women tend to be attracted to dark triad traits. Narcissism and sociopathy at least are set at birth or early childhood. If you aren't a true dark triad then you can't just become one. The advice is to fake it at the right times to stimulate female interest and arousal. How do you trust someone willing to pretend to be narcissistic or sociopathic? That is a different and slightly less remarkable question. Just like anything on the internet: can you verify it? Is it consis…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 11:04 PM
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Not ladylike.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 10:42 PM
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Red pill says that marriage is advantageous for women but not for men. In that sense, the idea is the same but the advice is different for a different audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 07:49 PM
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They can't reflect or influence sexuality if they're not about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 03:30 AM
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None of those are about sex. Name one more influential. Just one and I will concede your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 03:10 AM
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Scholar.google.com returns hundreds of academic papers referencing Sex and the City. There are very few pieces of popular culture that have been more influential in recent history and none that are explicitly about sex (maybe 50 shades of grey but that was a flash in the pan by comparison). I challenge to name even one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 02:50 AM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Thanks. You made my day. =)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 02:42 AM
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So it's NOT getting fucked?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 02:18 AM
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Paying taxes is getting fucked and it happened against your will which means that you were raped. If you honestly believe that to be true, please call 800.656.HOPE (4673) to be connected with a trained staff member from a sexual assault service provider in your area. Please report back. We're worried about you. Stay safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 02:14 AM
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That's a testable hypothesis. In the third world at least, a lot of money has been made making micro loans exclusively to women, showing that their economic value has been underutilised. Is there any other such example in the first world?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 02:08 AM
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The burden of proof is on you. If you have nothing to back it up then just walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 02:02 AM
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Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer. It's not my job to hold your hand and make your point for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 01:54 AM
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Ill remind you of your original question: Can you give me a specific example or examples where female sexuality demonstrations are overtly accepted or praised but men's arent. How far do you want to keep moving those goal posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 01:44 AM
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I assume you don't live alone on an island and that you've paid taxes before. Have you gotten counseling? Rape is a traumatic experience. You really shouldn't go through something like that alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 01:41 AM
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Are you an anarchist?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 12:58 AM
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Not effectively. Your ass doesn't hurt afterwards. You don't have to get checked for STDs. You are not getting fucked. The consequences for not paying taxes are the same whether the rate are 1% or 99%. Unless you are for zero government, your hyperbole is just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 12:41 AM
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Sex and the City was nominated for 54 Emmy Awards (winning 7) and 24 Golden Globes (winning 8). Time Magazine and TV Guide both put it on their "Best TV Shows of All Time" lists. Do you really think older women weren't getting dicked before sex and the city and then everyone just became slutty after? lel Straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 12:37 AM
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My parents are extremely conservative fundamentalist Muslims and they are the only ones that have views close to what you are describing. Even immigrant parents think my parents are wack-jobs by comparison. Your experience is not normal in western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:17 PM
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Do you live in Afghanistan?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:10 PM
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Does a representative of the IRS show up at your door with a strap on every April 15th?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:48 PM
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Don't you understand? It's more convenient to be completely indifferent to the suffering of others. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:27 PM
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When you are rich enough you know that more stuff won't make you happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:22 PM
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It's not just the hard sciences either: Linguistics, Economics, Archeology, Psychology, Architecture, Music, Business, Law, History, etc etc. If you have to cater to your professors political inclinations it's likely what you are doing is religious indoctrination, not academics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:55 PM
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Thanks for your anecdote but that doesn't change the law. The number one factor in federal guidelines for determining child support is the income of the parent. If it were really about taking responsibility both parents would be required to equally provide child support and support would be set based on the needs of the child, not the parents ability to pay. Instead, child support is used by courts as a form of covert alimony to create a psuedo-marital relationship where none exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:29 PM
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He could file for full or 50/50 custody. That way he receives child support from her or he pays none. If that were the law and there was a presumption of equal custody we probably wouldn't be having this discussion. But that is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:50 PM
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No matter what topic you're assigned at uni, you have to lie in some way. Never had that problem in Linear Algebra.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:11 PM
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Art imitates life, or life imitates art? The question was "how does culture exahlt female sexuality and demonize male sexuality?" Entertainment IS culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 03:37 PM
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The Y chromosome comprises 2% of human DNA and has 200 genes that do not exist anywhere else including the genes responsible for sex differences. There are a number of genetic diseases that are only present in men that occur because of mutations to genes that only exist on the Y chromosome. Men and women are genetically different. Science is amazing because it exists to describe reality as it is, not to reinforce your preconceived notions or ideological hobby horses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 03:33 PM
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You were probably in elementary school back then but Sex and the City was the biggest cultural phenomenon of the early 21st century. Ask any woman under 40 which SatC character they are and they will have gladly have an extended conversation about it and how they proudly embody a Miranda, but sometimes they're a Charlotte, and who doesn't want to be Samantha sometimes. Both men and women in that show act equally badly but the women are universally portrayed as heros and all the men are villians.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:35 AM
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Lol yes because sex and the city is exulted by our civilization right. Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:19 AM
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"Sex and the City" is the rallying cry of an entire generation of women and had spawned dozens of imitators.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:15 AM
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If a man says he wants a woman who is kind, empathetic, driven and motivated to be the best at whatever it is she does (be it a homemaker, a nurse, etc...) is that man seeking a woman who is "better" who is "superior" to him? Yes. But the things I think that a man thinks make someone better and the things a woman thinks makes someone better are not the same things. We can, and should, be better than our partners. We can both be better than each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 02:48 AM
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Settle down, ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:57 AM
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Most Ferraris have 4 wheels. Most vehicles with 4 wheels are not Ferraris.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:46 AM
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Wants man to be superior but not to rub her nose in it. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:38 AM
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Go show it to someone else then. I'm not here to validate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 11:25 PM
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